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schestowitz[02:53] <MinceR> google controls the platform and they're not evil enough to include a TPMJul 02 00:52
schestowitzMakes senseJul 02 00:52
schestowitzIIRC, google is keep on itJul 02 00:53
schestowitzand actively involvedJul 02 00:53
schestowitznot just IBM and IntelJul 02 00:53
oiaohmhttp://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/thoughts-on-intels-upcoming-software.html  the fun.  No TPM chip intel just provides means to emulate it anyhow.Jul 02 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com.au | The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Thoughts on Intel's upcoming Software Guard Extensions (Part 1)Jul 02 00:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 22.0 STABLE released. | Tux MachinesJul 02 01:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 Reports on #Debian Development and #YunitJul 02 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 What you are referring to as Linux is in fact GNU/LinuxJul 02 03:05
TweetTuxMachines                 RT @tuxmachines #4MLinux 22.0 STABLE released.Jul 02 03:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 22.0 STABLE released. | Tux MachinesJul 02 03:05
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DaemonFChttps://arstechnica.com/security/2017/06/latest-high-severity-flaw-in-windows-defender-highlights-the-dark-side-of-av/Jul 02 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | This Windows Defender bug was so gaping its PoC exploit had to be encrypted | Ars TechnicaJul 02 04:16
DaemonFCWindows Defender makes the computer vulnerable again.Jul 02 04:16
DaemonFCAll the user has to do is visit an attack site in a browser and Defender launches the malware.Jul 02 04:17
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oiaohmDaemonFC: do note this kinds of exploits with anti-virus software do turn up.  Even with clamav.Jul 02 05:21
oiaohmDaemonFC: anti-viruses are something I have never understood not being built to the highest possible development standard.Jul 02 05:21
DaemonFCWell, Microsoft weakened their kernel security to give antivirus vendors an API. Linux made the same mistake with LSMs.Jul 02 05:24
DaemonFCTorvalds doesn't like PaX and grsecurity, but in some ways, they are the right thing to do.Jul 02 05:24
oiaohmDaemonFC: wrong interface.  LSM was not designed for anti-virus vendors.Jul 02 05:47
oiaohmDaemonFC: the feature for anti-virus in Linux is https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/14377#On-Access%20Scanning%20(Fanotify)  fanotifyJul 02 05:48
DaemonFCIt's been criticized as giving a potentially malicious LSM module a lot of power.Jul 02 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.sophos.com | Sophos Anti-Virus for Linux: On Access Scanning options - Sophos CommunityJul 02 05:48
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oiaohmDaemonFC: just being in kernel space gives items a lot of power.Jul 02 05:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: there is a big difference between Microsoft anti-virus hooks and Linux fanotify.  Microsoft solution only 1 anti-virus can use the hooks.   fanotify multi anti-viruses can be using the hooks at the same time.Jul 02 05:53
oiaohmDaemonFC: talpa that was used before fanotify was modify a lot of internal kernel stuff without being a LSM.Jul 02 05:58
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schestowitz[09:16] <DaemonFC> Windows Defender makes the computer vulnerable again.Jul 02 06:43
schestowitzI know someone who works on itJul 02 06:43
schestowitzproprietary software is to obscure to trust with "security"Jul 02 06:43
schestowitzEven if ""security"" is its labelJul 02 06:43
schestowitzit's just some blobJul 02 06:43
schestowitzwith a label, "security"Jul 02 06:43
oiaohmschestowitz: DaemonFC has left for now.Jul 02 06:44
oiaohmschestowitz: I do agree security without means to audit is asking for faith and faith as security is not a good thing.Jul 02 06:44
schestowitzyes, I know he leftJul 02 06:57
oiaohmhttps://blog.namei.org/2017/03/09/hardening-the-lsm-api/  Its interesting items like LSM are being relooked at by developers at the momentJul 02 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.namei.org | Hardening the LSM API | James MorrisJul 02 07:02
MinceR02 065754 < oiaohm> http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/thoughts-on-intels-upcoming-software.html  the fun.  No TPM chip intel just provides means to Jul 02 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com.au | The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Thoughts on Intel's upcoming Software Guard Extensions (Part 1)Jul 02 07:58
MinceR                    emulate it anyhow.Jul 02 07:58
MinceRwon't be able to hold a persistent Endorsement Key, thoughJul 02 07:58
oiaohmReally you are not thinking well enough where a bios setting stored.Jul 02 08:00
MinceRnot in the CPU.Jul 02 08:03
oiaohmME controller can shield memory even in the flash.Jul 02 08:04
MinceRa flash chip is probably easier to read the EK from than to decap the TPM chip and read it from thereJul 02 08:05
MinceR(you can probably get away with soldering on a few wires and using some sort of controller while the PC is powered down)Jul 02 08:05
oiaohmNot really https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2016/02/26/memory-encryption-an-intel-sgx-underpinning-technologyJul 02 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-software.intel.com | The Intel SGX Memory Encryption Engine | Intel® SoftwareJul 02 08:07
oiaohmThe master key can in fact been in the CPUJul 02 08:07
MinceRicJul 02 08:07
oiaohmSo the only thing in the flash is encrypted block of what the data.Jul 02 08:07
MinceRoh well, i guess it's time to disable SGX in the BIOSJul 02 08:07
oiaohmME master firmware beats bios.Jul 02 08:08
MinceRall the more reason to build a truly open computer with the CPU on an FPGAJul 02 08:09
oiaohmTPM as a removable chip so much of a nightmare.  TPM done emulated so not removeable is even worse.Jul 02 08:11
MinceRinteresting articleJul 02 08:13
MinceR>hiding code from the owner doesn't decrease securityJul 02 08:13
MinceRuh huhJul 02 08:13
MinceRi wonder if they also believe that locking a UEFI appliance into Backdoors10 also "doesn't decrease security"Jul 02 08:14
oiaohmLike this is stuff I see nothing good long term coming from it.Jul 02 08:16
MinceRneither do iJul 02 08:16
MinceRplus it's layers upon layers upon layers, and there will be bugs in all of itJul 02 08:17
oiaohmSystemd I can see some possible light.   But the SGX stuff nothing good ever is going to come from it.Jul 02 08:17
MinceRmaybe if they pull a CADT on systemd and think before they code for onceJul 02 08:17
MinceRbut it's not likelyJul 02 08:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881486296996360192Jul 02 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: #TIOCSTI, #OutlawCountry, #Jeep, and OlderJul 02 08:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: TIOCSTI, OutlawCountry, Jeep, and Older News Catchup | Tux MachinesJul 02 08:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881487078890102784Jul 02 08:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #OpenHardware, #Modding, and #3DPrintingJul 02 08:18
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MinceR>infineon is asianJul 02 08:19
MinceRi learn so much from this blog postJul 02 08:19
oiaohmMinceR: for something core like systemd I would have liked to been seeing this http://ts.data61.csiro.au/projects/TS/proof-engineering/Jul 02 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ts.data61.csiro.au | Proof Engineering | TS | Data61Jul 02 08:24
MinceRmaybeJul 02 08:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #TIOCSTI, #OutlawCountry, #Jeep, and Older News Catchup...'Jul 02 08:24
MinceRprovided it doesn't merely ensure that all your bugs are also encoded into the (much more low-level) specificationJul 02 08:25
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TweetTuxMachines                 #Openwashing examplesJul 02 08:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing | Tux MachinesJul 02 08:25
MinceRthe thing they should definitely about learn before starting is this >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Jul 02 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cohesion (computer science) - WikipediaJul 02 08:25
oiaohmMinceR:  really if you do formal proofs you will do Cohesion or be eaten alive doing the proofJul 02 08:27
MinceR:>Jul 02 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881488972333158401Jul 02 08:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS Databases: Older News | Tux MachinesJul 02 08:28
oiaohmLarger the attack surface area the more complex and nasty doing the proof becomes.Jul 02 08:28
oiaohmSo you will follow good code limitation polices doing formal proofs.Jul 02 08:29
oiaohmMinceR: formal proof can be used to make sure you test suite is testing everything.  Formal proof you can have a proper memory model of your program so you can allow for cpu nasties like reordering instructions.Jul 02 08:30
oiaohmMinceR: basically basic computer sciences have taught people how to write code in crappy ways.Jul 02 08:31
oiaohmMinceR: doing anything life threating you need to basically retrain them.Jul 02 08:31
MinceRprobably not feasible in all applicationsJul 02 08:32
MinceRbut at least an init system (and probably even a service manager) is simple enough for thisJul 02 08:32
oiaohmformal proofs do have different levels of quality.Jul 02 08:33
oiaohmEverything could contain some level of formal proof.Jul 02 08:33
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oiaohmBut something simple could be done to mathmatically certainty.  Init and even service management should be simple enough to go to full mathmatical proof standard. Jul 02 08:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881491133569925120Jul 02 08:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Older FOSS News (Catchup) | Tux MachinesJul 02 08:37
oiaohmMinceR: really items like openssl and other encryption no matter how hard you would want them done to highest standard possible what they are not now..Jul 02 08:37
MinceRyeahJul 02 08:37
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oiaohmIts also why I am such a nit picker on sysvinit I look from a formal proof test point of viewJul 02 08:39
oiaohmSame with many other init systems.Jul 02 08:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 02 08:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OpenHardware, #Modding, and #3DPrinting https://t.co/evlzxHG8SF #hardware #hacking...'Jul 02 08:46
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MinceRoiaohm: so why are you not a nitpicker when it comes to systemd?Jul 02 09:54
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MinceR>one doesn't need to be a genius to figure out that the main driving force behind this whole SGX thing is the DRMJul 02 10:00
MinceR02 160012 <+CrystalMath> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237Jul 02 10:02
MinceR02 160026 <+CrystalMath> days since the last critical systemd security flaw: 0Jul 02 10:02
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtQsaxpHZXQJul 02 10:25
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pale-blue-dot   http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1498317194-20170624after.pngJul 02 12:25
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/oYZ0sJul 02 12:52
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schestowitzneed help...Jul 02 14:11
schestowitzhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/399165/setting-a-command-to-be-run-when-switching-to-a-virtual-desktop-or-an-activityJul 02 14:11
schestowitztrying to search around this themeJul 02 14:11
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schestowitzdoes anyone here us KActivities?Jul 02 14:12
schestowitzThey don't rerun scripts or reconnect in konsoleJul 02 14:12
schestowitzwhen re-run/activatedJul 02 14:12
schestowitzhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3543/expand-kde-activities-concept-to-the-shellJul 02 14:18
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schestowitzwow, is dragon player so dumb it has no concept of proceeding to next track in playlist?Jul 02 14:26
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schestowitztrying to hack my way around itJul 02 14:44
schestowitzwith konsole "profiles"Jul 02 14:44
schestowitzso Activities remember paths and tabsJul 02 14:45
schestowitzbut cannot be made to run commands when startedJul 02 14:45
schestowitzhttp://www.makeuseof.com/tag/customize-konsole-default-kde-terminal-emulator/Jul 02 14:53
schestowitzno such optionJul 02 14:53
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MinceRhttps://68.media.tumblr.com/6865a8ed778212a432d1fc0786262b0c/tumblr_ojvc7nfaF81u1vkloo1_1280.jpgJul 02 15:09
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MinceR> twitter: 'Systemd is just following the "do one thing well" mantra. It's making new vulns every day.'Jul 02 16:11
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/primingJul 02 16:25
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oiaohmMinceR: I have told you I really don't exactly like systemd.   In the debian debate about init I pushed for openrc.   Problem here I like to understand where it ideas come from and if it has a technical possibility of working.Jul 02 16:43
oiaohmMinceR: the main reason I appear systemd support is lack of decent init systems.Jul 02 16:43
oiaohmMinceR: to be correct init and service management systems.Jul 02 16:43
MinceRoiaohm: and you can understand the faults in them, except for systemdJul 02 16:44
oiaohmMinceR: I listed 280 faults in systemd in the debian debate.Jul 02 16:44
oiaohmSo no I can see the fault in systemd.Jul 02 16:45
oiaohmI can also see the fault systemd developers have attempted to fix.Jul 02 16:45
MinceRbut you can't see that they've failed at it miserablyJul 02 16:46
oiaohmMost time they are in fact successful at fixing the fault they aimed on fixing.Jul 02 16:47
oiaohmProblem is there code quality exposes other faults.Jul 02 16:47
oiaohmthere/theirJul 02 16:47
MinceRthat's an interesting hypothesisJul 02 16:48
MinceRso if you fail to keep track of processes because cgroups don't work properly as opposed to because there's a tiny probability that pidfiles can fail, since the cause of the failure is different, it is thus fixedJul 02 16:49
oiaohmThey fixed cgroups with cgroups v2 so with cgroups v2 you can track processes.Jul 02 16:50
oiaohmSo they started with the objective to fix the PID escape and did.Jul 02 16:50
MinceRso why do they not SIGTERM processes on shutdown?Jul 02 16:51
oiaohmcgroup v1 did not fail process tracking.   Failed process termination.Jul 02 16:51
oiaohmThis is what I am getting at they fixed X problem and found y Problem.Jul 02 16:52
oiaohmThen poor code quality added extra faults.Jul 02 16:53
MinceRall that verbiage to justify an alleged "init system" that can't shut the system down properly...Jul 02 16:53
MinceRi wouldn't call this "being a nitpicker"Jul 02 16:54
oiaohmhttps://serverfault.com/questions/290342/mongodb-linux-service-startup-shutdown-is-failing-possible-unclean-shutdown   This is sysvinit debianJul 02 16:57
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oiaohmMinceR: sorry failure to shutdown is not only a systemd problem.Jul 02 16:57
MinceRonce again, you interpret a failure to fix as a success to fixJul 02 16:58
oiaohmBut they did fix it in the end.Jul 02 16:58
oiaohmSomething sysvinit did not do for 30+ years.Jul 02 16:59
MinceR[citation needed]Jul 02 16:59
oiaohmThe failure to shutdown bugs are closed and no new ones have been opened on systemd.Jul 02 17:00
oiaohmEven the bug you were quoting had it closed.Jul 02 17:00
oiaohmIt closed because it fixed.Jul 02 17:00
oiaohmEven with trouble making cgroupv1 they got it to work in the end.Jul 02 17:01
MinceRor it was closed because poettering doesn't think it's a bug and new attempts to open bugs were suppressedJul 02 17:01
MinceRbusiness as usual for themJul 02 17:01
oiaohmIf that was the case the bug would appear in distribution bug lists.Jul 02 17:02
MinceRexcept the distributions that adopt systemd believe in systemdJul 02 17:02
oiaohmThen why does fedora have 70+ extra patches that are not mainline.Jul 02 17:02
MinceRand they've already paid a steep cost (lock-in) for it, so cognitive dissonance makes them rationalize paying itJul 02 17:03
MinceRbecause they're retardedJul 02 17:03
MinceRfedora and systemd come from literally the same corporationJul 02 17:03
oiaohmBecause poettering is upstream and they are downstream.Jul 02 17:03
MinceRirrelevantJul 02 17:03
oiaohmNo the maintainer of the systemd package on fedora does not work for redhat.Jul 02 17:03
MinceRthey could talk to him face to face if they caredJul 02 17:03
MinceRand nobody works on fedora at redhat?Jul 02 17:04
oiaohmQuite a few who work at fedora do work at redhat.   But it interesting to looking at who is maintaining what in fedora.Jul 02 17:04
oiaohmA lot of things you would think would be redhat are not.Jul 02 17:05
MinceRmaybe for someone who enjoys watching incompetence up closeJul 02 17:05
MinceRi prefer to keep those idiots at a distanceJul 02 17:05
MinceRas great distance as possibleJul 02 17:05
oiaohmThe reality is redhat is not in control of the bugs around systemd once it gets to distribution even for fedora and centos.    They only have bug control on RHEL.Jul 02 17:06
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/pxIa8Jul 02 17:06
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MinceRmaybe they should keep poettering on a shorter leash thenJul 02 17:07
MinceRbut, yeah, that would imply competence at something other than breaking stuff and forcing malware on peopleJul 02 17:07
oiaohmMost of the redhat developers are on quite long leashes.   As long as they can prove they fixed X fault they were sent after they keep job even if they cause like 200 other faults in the process.  Please note this was true before systemd with glibc and gcc at times with redhat provided project lead. Jul 02 17:09
oiaohmSo redhat being this kind of nightmare is not new.Jul 02 17:10
MinceRgiving them this much power is, thoughJul 02 17:10
oiaohmthis is also one of the reasons why I was pushing for openrc as gentoo developers seam to have a saner sorting process.Jul 02 17:10
oiaohmMinceR: the ablity to stuff glibc and gcc up is quite a bit of power.Jul 02 17:11
MinceRmany people outside ratcrap understand those, afaikJul 02 17:12
MinceRwell, except for the obfuscated parts of gcc, anywayJul 02 17:13
oiaohmNot in the time frame of the redhat egccJul 02 17:13
MinceRalso, i don't see how forcing systemd on people took control over glibc and gcc away from redhatJul 02 17:14
oiaohmegcc and eglibc both Redhat came default on distributions for a while.Jul 02 17:14
oiaohmSo this kind of power has been handed to redhat before.Jul 02 17:14
oiaohmAnd we learnt nothing.Jul 02 17:15
oiaohmMinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_GLIBC  the control of glibc was only really taken back from redhat once redhat decided to give up on it.Jul 02 17:20
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oiaohmMinceR: its very simple to been ignoring how deep redhat was in the core of everything.   One of the things about systemd is it more showing the problem that already existed.Jul 02 17:24
MinceRalso, this time it actually prevents you from using programsJul 02 17:25
MinceRor at least making full use of themJul 02 17:25
oiaohmbroken eglibc also prevented programs from working.Jul 02 17:25
oiaohmSo it been this way since 1997 and you have not noticed.Jul 02 17:26
oiaohmBefore eglibc redhat would publicly provide list of patches to glibc that most distributions would apply without checking.Jul 02 17:30
oiaohmMinceR: the reality is there has been a major quality control problem for a very long time.Jul 02 17:31
oiaohmMinceR: with a lot of power put in redhat lap without oversight .Jul 02 17:32
oiaohmMinceR: maybe systemd will be the straw on the Camel back  that gets people to wake up or maybe everyone will be like you and attack systemd totally ignoring what lead up to it.Jul 02 17:33
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MinceRoiaohm: so, what are you implying i missed?Jul 02 17:50
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oiaohmMinceR: you have missed how much control has been in redhat hands.     It starts 1997 well before systemd.Jul 02 18:08
MinceRso what?Jul 02 18:08
oiaohmApplications not working after being built with modified version of gcc.Jul 02 18:09
oiaohmSo applications not working have been normal due to redhat actions.Jul 02 18:09
MinceRso what?Jul 02 18:09
oiaohmBut most of the applications with systemd they have include flag to have them work this is improvement over what redhat has prior done.Jul 02 18:10
MinceRso you welcome systemdJul 02 18:10
MinceRafter some days of exhausting mental gymnasticsJul 02 18:11
MinceRwhat for?Jul 02 18:11
oiaohmI did not say I welcome it.Jul 02 18:11
oiaohmThis is your bias thinking that I am for it.Jul 02 18:11
oiaohmI have been annoyed by what has been going on for years.Jul 02 18:12
oiaohmIn fact decades now.Jul 02 18:12
oiaohmlack of proper development processes are not a new thing about systemd they were true for eglibc, glibc, gcc, egcc......  fairly much every core part.Jul 02 18:13
MinceRso why aren't you glad that more people are noticing it?Jul 02 18:14
MinceRmany core parts do not need to be built to the standards init must stand up to, thoughJul 02 18:15
oiaohmSo glibc being suspect?   that is something that kinda need to stand up as well right.Jul 02 18:15
MinceRindeedJul 02 18:16
oiaohmLot of focus yelling about systemd totally  ingoring all the other busted.Jul 02 18:16
MinceRthat's because we're being locked into systemd right nowJul 02 18:16
MinceRthe sooner we fix it, the less damage is doneJul 02 18:16
oiaohmBefore systemd look for people yelling about glibc and other parts.Jul 02 18:17
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oiaohmSome of this is up in the super insane, https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/06/running-kwins-auto-test-suite/  Kde being trouble no automated testing until this year.Jul 02 18:17
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oiaohmMinceR: also with systemd suggested fix go back to sysvinit what is abandoned ware with no plan to start a new support team for it.Jul 02 18:18
MinceR>with no plan to start a new support team for it.Jul 02 18:18
MinceR[citation needed]Jul 02 18:18
oiaohmAll ready did sysvinit open bugs they are not fixed anywhere.  If a support team had been started they should have at least fixed some of them.Jul 02 18:19
MinceRhow can you tell what everybody's plans are?Jul 02 18:20
oiaohmDevuan and others who have gone back to sysvinit should have started support by now if they were going to.Jul 02 18:21
oiaohmSo those guys are just using abandoned ware without care.Jul 02 18:22
MinceRthey would have had the resources to do so if they weren't tied up with removing redhat's shit from debianJul 02 18:22
MinceRand once again, you're promoting using systemd as the preferred optionJul 02 18:23
MinceRso much for not being a systemd apologistJul 02 18:23
oiaohmNo I want to see a serous alternative maintained properly.Jul 02 18:23
MinceRand since you consider none of them to be serious, you promote systemdJul 02 18:24
oiaohmopenrc I consider under resourced.Jul 02 18:24
MinceRjust like the redhat moles in debian pretending that there was nothing but sysvinit and systemd and that it was urgent to get off sysvinitJul 02 18:24
oiaohmI do consider that a serous attempt.Jul 02 18:24
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MinceR Jul 02 18:28
oiaohmMinceR: Devuan is a classic example of problem.  We will support multi init solutions so we don't have to do one properly.   Most of the other distributions not using systemd have not been maintaining what they are using and are more using abandon ware solutions.'Jul 02 18:32
MinceRthose are not mutually exclusiveJul 02 18:32
MinceRif you weren't so infatuated with systemd, you'd realize that they're mostly interchangeableJul 02 18:32
oiaohmMost of the distributions using systemd are in fact submitting patches and taking part in the maintainership.Jul 02 18:33
MinceRthey don't have to shove a particular solution down the users' throat, so they won'tJul 02 18:33
MinceRthat way they can have competition.Jul 02 18:33
MinceRall of the distributions using systemd are in fact maintained by people who don't know what they're doing.Jul 02 18:34
oiaohmThat is a lie.Jul 02 18:34
MinceRno, that is a factJul 02 18:34
oiaohmNo lieJul 02 18:34
MinceRbut of course a systemd cultist like you will never understand itJul 02 18:34
oiaohmagain wrongJul 02 18:34
MinceRoh, you will eventually overcome your cognitive dissonance then?Jul 02 18:34
MinceRwhen?Jul 02 18:34
oiaohmI have told you the model profile stuff by.   The proof model.Jul 02 18:35
MinceRwhat does that have to do with anything?Jul 02 18:36
oiaohmWhen you apply a proof test to a lot of the init systems they fail.   With no real plans to address how they fail the proof.Jul 02 18:36
MinceRand if you set up the test carefully enough, it will make systemd seem to workJul 02 18:36
MinceRbut that doesn't magically fix things in production systems where it fucks upJul 02 18:37
oiaohmNo systemd fails but there is a possiblity to pass proof.Jul 02 18:37
MinceRnone of the faith, the equivocation, the shouting or the lying will fix itJul 02 18:37
MinceRyes, but a thousand monkeys using keyboards are more likely to type up a service manager that will work properlyJul 02 18:37
oiaohmAnd that possiblity has been shown with the number of fault that were first listed that no longer are faults without changing the design.Jul 02 18:37
MinceRnot only is systemd developed in a completely retarded, ass backwards way, but the people in charge are deliberately fucking up everything they canJul 02 18:38
MinceRmore effort is placed into forcing people to depend on it than into fixing its design flaws and bugsJul 02 18:38
MinceRand every few days another security hole is found in that messJul 02 18:39
oiaohmcorrect you statement.Jul 02 18:39
oiaohmCVE number exist.Jul 02 18:39
oiaohmThey do not appear every few days.Jul 02 18:39
oiaohmAlso you claim deliberate.   It not its lack of solid proper processes.Jul 02 18:40
MinceRwhat process is necessary to not introduce gratuitous dependencies on systemd into other software packages they control?Jul 02 18:42
MinceRwhat process is necessary to not reinvent system APIs in a dbus-dependent and systemd-dependent way?Jul 02 18:42
MinceRwhat process is necessary to make poettering learn the basics of software engineering before handing him the task of developing a critical system component?Jul 02 18:43
MinceRthe problem here is with intentions, not processesJul 02 18:43
MinceRand with misplaced trust in redhatJul 02 18:43
oiaohmMinceR: what process is necessary to not introduce gratuitous dependencies on systemd into other software packages they control?  << That is a proper functional full coverage testsuite.Jul 02 18:44
sebsebsebMinceR: AppleJul 02 18:45
MinceRsebsebseb: microsoftJul 02 18:45
sebsebsebibmJul 02 18:45
MinceRoiaohm: no, that is notJul 02 18:45
MinceRsebsebseb: oracleJul 02 18:45
oiaohmMinceR: yes it isJul 02 18:45
sebsebseboiaohm electronicsJul 02 18:45
oiaohmMinceR: because a proper functional full coverage testsuite should cover if bits are missing.Jul 02 18:45
MinceRoiaohm: what sort of test suite prevents the people in charge of gnome from announcing that the project will depend on some piece of malware going forward?Jul 02 18:46
MinceRoiaohm: it was not accidental, it was intentionalJul 02 18:46
sebsebsebMinceR: Donald Trump your heroJul 02 18:46
MinceRsebsebseb: no, yoursJul 02 18:46
sebsebsebMinceR: nope hes your super man !Jul 02 18:46
oiaohmMinceR: a proper full function testsuite allows you to be a drop in replacment that works.Jul 02 18:47
sebsebsebMinceR: UbuntuJul 02 18:47
MinceRoiaohm: which is no help if they keep changing the interfaces. which systemd doesJul 02 18:47
MinceRsebsebseb: rHELLJul 02 18:47
sebsebsebRed Hat Enterprise Linux h ehJul 02 18:47
sebsebsebMinceR: SUSEJul 02 18:47
sebsebsebOpen SuseJul 02 18:47
sebsebsebSuse Enterprise LinuxJul 02 18:47
MinceRsebsebseb: closedSUSEJul 02 18:47
sebsebsebyour beloved distroJul 02 18:47
MinceRnopeJul 02 18:47
MinceRyoursJul 02 18:48
sebsebsebSUSE oh yeah !Jul 02 18:48
oiaohmMinceR: next step after a proper functional testsuite is a proper specification to be followed by everyone.Jul 02 18:48
sebsebsebyoursJul 02 18:48
oiaohmMinceR: if all the steps are done the problem you are talking about fairly much does not exist.Jul 02 18:48
MinceRsebsebseb: having someone email the people at novell just to get a couple of packages for valgrind is so much funJul 02 18:48
MinceRnot.Jul 02 18:48
MinceRoiaohm: proper specifications and test suites do not ward off evil intentionsJul 02 18:48
sebsebsebMinceR: whats valgrind ?Jul 02 18:49
oiaohmgnome dependance on logind is that this is you want to runs stuff without increased privillage.Jul 02 18:49
sebsebseboiaohm: ohJul 02 18:50
oiaohmMinceR: some thing require frameworks.   Some of those frameworks the only existing implementation is systemd.Jul 02 18:50
oiaohmMinceR: there is a rock and hard place problem.Jul 02 18:51
MinceRsebsebseb: a tool that (among other things) helps developers find memory leaksJul 02 18:51
sebsebseboh okJul 02 18:51
sebsebsebMinceR: oiaohm  well Ubuntu has becomme rubbish again really on desktop or uh not that greatJul 02 18:52
sebsebsebwith unity at least they had something special !Jul 02 18:52
MinceR(something poettering might want to learn about, since the malware he hacked up leaked 4GB RAM in 18 days of uptime)Jul 02 18:52
MinceRyeah, short bus specialJul 02 18:52
sebsebsebshort bus ??Jul 02 18:52
MinceRbut at least the unity DE did not depend on cancerd, afaikJul 02 18:52
sebsebsebwhat you mean ?Jul 02 18:52
sebsebsebwell it used gnome in the background reallyJul 02 18:52
sebsebsebwith some canonical patches tooJul 02 18:52
MinceRsebsebseb: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=short%20busJul 02 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: short busJul 02 18:53
MinceRubuntu has been rubbish for a long timeJul 02 18:53
MinceRbut debian caught up with themJul 02 18:53
sebsebsebwel it had unityJul 02 18:53
sebsebsebunity was specialJul 02 18:53
sebsebsebbetter than the gnome 2 patches of the pastJul 02 18:53
sebsebsebit suddenly became an acstaul interfaceJul 02 18:54
MinceRi don't really like to compare turdsJul 02 18:54
sebsebsebwhoJul 02 18:54
sebsebseb?Jul 02 18:54
oiaohmMinceR: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0NDg  this 2013 https://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/sane-session-switching/  particular this bit.Jul 02 18:54
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MinceRunity and gnome3 were painful enough to use as long as it took to install xfce in their place anywayJul 02 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dvdhrm.wordpress.com | Sane Session-Switching | PonyhofJul 02 18:54
sebsebseboh you prefer xfce over unity and ngome you mean ?Jul 02 18:55
sebsebsebxfce nahJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebI prefer gnome shell mate and unityJul 02 18:55
oiaohmMinceR: having two high privillage processes fight for control of the graphical output was never a good thing.Jul 02 18:55
MinceRthat's your problem, not mineJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebUnity was something differnet and specialJul 02 18:55
MinceRoiaohm: pid1 is not the only possible place for high privilegeJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebok sure it pretty much tighed people to UbuntuJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebfor useageJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebbut stillJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebnow its just another boring gnome distro reallyJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebeven if they do a few extensions by defaultJul 02 18:55
sebsebsebwith a theme that isn't that great as well from 2010Jul 02 18:56
sebsebsebported to gnomeJul 02 18:56
MinceRit's not like you couldn't switch DEs anywayJul 02 18:56
oiaohmMinceR: idea of logind is that you come back to 1 process that every one messages so you don't cat fight.Jul 02 18:56
sebsebsebyeah  Jul 02 18:56
sebsebsebI am using ubuntu wih gnome and a load of extensions right nowJul 02 18:56
sebsebsebsince my mageia uhmm...Jul 02 18:56
MinceRoiaohm: no, the idea of logind is to lock DEs (and thus users) into systemdJul 02 18:56
sebsebsebbut by default 11.10 won't be that greatJul 02 18:56
oiaohmMinceR: logind predates systemd.Jul 02 18:56
sebsebsebgnome with wahtever instead of unity hmmJul 02 18:56
MinceRoiaohm: http://i.imgur.com/2bY9hT4.jpgJul 02 18:57
oiaohmMinceR: gnome and kde has had a request for something like logind on BSD and Linux since 2000.Jul 02 18:58
MinceRand to think that in all that time they could have just switched to windowsJul 02 18:59
oiaohmMinceR: at some point getting kicked in teeth was going to happen.Jul 02 18:59
MinceRand they would have had the atrocious, fascistic OS they always wanted!Jul 02 18:59
MinceRor even to macosJul 02 18:59
MinceRgnome even copied macosJul 02 19:00
MinceRand now kde is copying gnomeJul 02 19:00
oiaohmopenbsd developer who are known for auditing everything agree with the idea of logind but still don't have an alternative.Jul 02 19:00
MinceRjust how many different implementations of unworkable crap do we really need anyway?Jul 02 19:00
MinceRoiaohm: anyway, i'm going to sleep so you'll have to sing the Gospel of systemd to someone elseJul 02 19:01
oiaohmMinceR: tell me a proper alterantive to logind that allows all the user of the process to run without privilege.Jul 02 19:01
oiaohmMinceR: you will not find it on Linux.Jul 02 19:02
oiaohmMinceR: this is a lack of proper competition problem.Jul 02 19:02
oiaohmMinceR: you hate systemd but then you don't look at what it provides and if there are proper replacements.Jul 02 19:03
MinceRoh, i did look at what it providesJul 02 19:03
MinceRi even mentioned it hereJul 02 19:03
MinceRbut you ignored it all because it conflicted with your religion.Jul 02 19:03
oiaohmYou listed the broken.Jul 02 19:03
MinceRbecause that is what it providesJul 02 19:04
MinceRit breaks everythingJul 02 19:04
oiaohmYou did not list what is in fact provides on top of that.Jul 02 19:04
MinceRbut we're supposed to ignore all of it because OOH SHINYJul 02 19:04
oiaohmSystemd does not break everything.Jul 02 19:04
MinceRfuck that.Jul 02 19:04
MinceR03 010420 < oiaohm> Systemd does not break everything.Jul 02 19:04
MinceRyet.Jul 02 19:04
MinceRbut they're working on it.Jul 02 19:04
MinceRi'm not going to throw out a working system because some hipster believes it's not "modern" enough.Jul 02 19:04
oiaohmDevelopers are working on the Linux kernel so by that logic we should not be using linuxJul 02 19:04
oiaohmMinceR: your logic is idiotJul 02 19:05
MinceRand you can scream until your head is purple, that is not going to change.Jul 02 19:05
oiaohmIt will not change that currently systemd parts are providing feature that there are not proper alterantives Jul 02 19:05
MinceRoiaohm: i don't care if your beloved piece of software is supposed to have all sorts of advantages. i care about what the implementation actually does.Jul 02 19:05
MinceRand what it does is break everything it can reach.Jul 02 19:06
MinceRit fucks up logging, it fucks up screen, tmux and dtachJul 02 19:06
oiaohmlogind allows x11 and wayland to start without privillage.Jul 02 19:06
MinceRit fucks up booting, it fucks up shutting downJul 02 19:06
oiaohmThat is something systemd allows.Jul 02 19:06
oiaohmand does.Jul 02 19:06
MinceRit fucks up reaping zombies.Jul 02 19:06
oiaohmNot any more systemd reaping zombies correctly now.Jul 02 19:06
MinceRit wastes CPU and leaks RAM.Jul 02 19:06
oiaohmMost of your list does not apply to current versionsJul 02 19:06
MinceRit introduces thousands of security holes, many of which are yet unknown.Jul 02 19:06
MinceRall of my list applies to versions people like you swore up and down were "stable" and "mature"Jul 02 19:07
MinceRyou've lost my trust.Jul 02 19:07
sebsebsebMinceR: Microsoft Windows 95Jul 02 19:07
MinceRso you can go foist your malware at people who don't know better.Jul 02 19:07
MinceRgood night.Jul 02 19:07
oiaohmMinceR: over 2000 existing security holes in the individual project merged into systemd that were in their buglists have been closed.Jul 02 19:08
oiaohmMinceR: and fixed.Jul 02 19:08
sebsebseboiaohm: he's gone to dream about system d it seemsJul 02 19:08
sebsebseband windows 95Jul 02 19:08
sebsebsebappleJul 02 19:08
sebsebsebmicrosoftJul 02 19:08
sebsebsebibmJul 02 19:08
sebsebsebit all !Jul 02 19:08
oiaohmMinceR: so there was quite a large security mess before systemd.Jul 02 19:09
*sebsebseb used to like WIndows 95Jul 02 19:09
*sebsebseb used to like WIndows 3.1 as well but that was more limited on what it did reallyJul 02 19:09
oiaohmThat is the problem just because you like something does not mean it not broken badly.Jul 02 19:09
MinceRoh snap.Jul 02 19:10
MinceRre-read that line and think about it for once.Jul 02 19:10
MinceRoiaohm: also, not only have people like you have to rebuild your beloved systemd in a form that will actually work, you'll also win back the trust that you've squandered. until that happens, don't be surprised that IT professionals refuse to run cancerd.Jul 02 19:10
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oiaohmMinceR: the problem here is a lot of professionals now are running systemd.Jul 02 19:13
MinceRno, a lot of hipsters with illusions of adequacy are.Jul 02 19:13
oiaohmMinceR: so large percentage of that trust has been rebuilt.Jul 02 19:13
MinceRno, they always trusted ratcrap, m$ and the like, and still do.Jul 02 19:13
MinceRwhy don't you go preach to such idiots?Jul 02 19:13
MinceR#fsf is chock full of them.Jul 02 19:14
oiaohmReality here is you want head in sand.Jul 02 19:14
sebsebsebMinceR: Microsoft oh MicrosftJul 02 19:14
sebsebseboh lovely MicroosftJul 02 19:15
sebsebsebmincers other favourite after appleJul 02 19:15
oiaohmMost have the point of view now that systemd is not perfect but it not as nightmare as using sysvinit and upstart was.Jul 02 19:15
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah even canonical had to drop their own upstart for systemd :DJul 02 19:16
oiaohmMinceR: do note I do not disrupt that early systemd was no good at all.   But things don't stay the same.Jul 02 19:17
MinceRsebsebseb: they didn't have to drop anything, they just don't like doing work. they prefer to just take debian and put their own branding on it.Jul 02 19:19
MinceRsebsebseb: oh, and most importantly, sell support for the result.Jul 02 19:19
MinceRthough i'm not sure how support works when you're unwilling to listen to anyone, including the clientsJul 02 19:19
MinceRoh wellJul 02 19:20
MinceRpeople nowadays love shoddy products and servicesJul 02 19:20
MinceRoiaohm: systemd's design is still as atrocious as it ever was. and so is the attitude of the people in charge.Jul 02 19:20
oiaohmMinceR: systemd design has in fact altered over the years.Jul 02 19:21
MinceRoiaohm: singing the praises of systemd will change neither.Jul 02 19:21
MinceRoh really?Jul 02 19:21
MinceRwhere are the independent modules?Jul 02 19:21
MinceRwhere's logind running without systemd or systemd-shim?Jul 02 19:21
oiaohmsystemd-shim was just systemd rebuilt without the core.Jul 02 19:22
MinceRmy point stands.Jul 02 19:22
MinceRwhere's udev firmware loading without kdbus or systemd?Jul 02 19:22
oiaohmSo logind in systemd can in fact run stand alone.Jul 02 19:22
oiaohmThat was show in one of the 2016 embedded confences.Jul 02 19:23
MinceRwhere are the small, well-defined, well-documented, stable interfaces and where's the systemd and gnome code relying exclusively on those?Jul 02 19:23
MinceRi don't care about demosJul 02 19:23
MinceRi care about actual releasesJul 02 19:23
MinceRi care about distribution releases.Jul 02 19:23
oiaohmI guess you are refering to udevd firmware loading removal.Jul 02 19:24
MinceRwhere's gnome3 and kde5 running without systemd, without needing outsiders to patch them to make them run?Jul 02 19:24
MinceRi'm referring to many thingsJul 02 19:24
oiaohmMinceR: the Linux kernel has not supporte firmware loading by udevd for about 15 years.Jul 02 19:24
MinceRall of them have to do with systemd being an atrocious hairball with no modularityJul 02 19:24
oiaohmMinceR: so there was a nice feature in udevd that basically if it attempted to-do it the thing just got a error messageJul 02 19:25
oiaohmOnly things need udevd firmware loader was unsupported Linux kernels.Jul 02 19:26
MinceRand most importantly, where's this asshole poettering apologizing for his conduct, promising to change it, and actual proof of his having changed it?Jul 02 19:26
MinceRor, alternatively, proof of the systemd cabal being removed from the leadership of the project?Jul 02 19:26
MinceRthe world is waiting.Jul 02 19:27
oiaohmMinceR: when was the last API/ABI change to logind.Jul 02 19:28
MinceRi don't know and i don't careJul 02 19:28
oiaohmNo this is you cluelessJul 02 19:28
MinceRdon't expect me to track tiny changes inside the malware you love so much as long as the main issues don't changeJul 02 19:28
oiaohmThat was 2014Jul 02 19:28
MinceRno, you are cluelessJul 02 19:28
oiaohmThe date is 2014Jul 02 19:28
sebsebsebMinceR: sell support to companes nowJul 02 19:28
oiaohmSo they have not been changing the logind interface.Jul 02 19:28
sebsebsebMinceR: iot and cloudJul 02 19:28
MinceRsebsebseb: no thanksJul 02 19:29
sebsebsebMinceR: Desktop Ubuntu is wellJul 02 19:29
oiaohmBut there is still no valid alterantives.Jul 02 19:29
sebsebsebwell no longer the focusJul 02 19:29
MinceRsebsebseb: desktop ubuntu is shit.Jul 02 19:29
MinceRsebsebseb: mobile ubuntu is dead.Jul 02 19:29
sebsebsebMinceR: not just that consumer based ubuntu is not the focus anymore, so not the phone or tablet as wellJul 02 19:29
MinceRoiaohm: to you, maybeJul 02 19:29
oiaohmMinceR: you did not provide.Jul 02 19:29
sebsebsebMinceR: thats what I mean since consumer ubuntu is no longer the focus,   mobile ubuntu is dead, not inclduing the  forks, I mean CanonicalJul 02 19:30
MinceRoiaohm: see, the problem is that you keep singing praises about how systemd changed, even though nothing that matters changed.Jul 02 19:30
oiaohmMinceR: something that usermode applications include the graphic server can run without privillage.Jul 02 19:30
MinceRsebsebseb: they never had any focus anywayJul 02 19:30
sebsebsebMinceR: they would be stupid to kill desktop ubuntu as well, and can't really properly, so to make it eaier back to gnomeJul 02 19:30
MinceRoiaohm: openbsd could do that without cancerdJul 02 19:30
oiaohmMinceR: so there is a alterantives missing.Jul 02 19:30
oiaohmMinceR: so openbsd anything Linux?Jul 02 19:30
sebsebsebMinceR: but yes unity and things like that,  killing that off, is removing the consumer focused stuffJul 02 19:30
MinceRoiaohm: but the funny thing is, i'm running X as nonroot without cancerd.Jul 02 19:30
MinceRoiaohm: so please stop flooding the channel with lies.Jul 02 19:30
oiaohmMinceR: really without privillage.  I did not say nonrootJul 02 19:31
MinceRsebsebseb: canonical was never "consumer focused"Jul 02 19:31
MinceRsebsebseb: they'd have to actually listen to the consumer for that. but they never gave a fuck.Jul 02 19:31
sebsebsebMinceR: Canonical is  more like REdhat or SUSE now,  making money off companies and that's that, no longer trying to get some from the consumer as well, moneyJul 02 19:31
oiaohmMinceR: you just said I was lieing when I am not.Jul 02 19:31
MinceRsebsebseb: just like shuttlecock's idols at crApple, they made shit up and forced it on their usersJul 02 19:31
MinceRsebsebseb: they patched out systray support from liferea, even though it was already optional, because shuttlecock thinks he knows better than me whether i want a tray icon.Jul 02 19:32
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu  Linux for human beings, as in the consumer in this context, the human being the consumerJul 02 19:32
MinceRoiaohm: you lie all the time.Jul 02 19:32
sebsebsebMinceR: now its Ubuntu for companies reallyJul 02 19:32
MinceRsebsebseb: apparently shuttlecock is that "human beings"Jul 02 19:32
sebsebseband a community keeping the desktop one going,  and canonica a tiny bit but that's itJul 02 19:32
MinceRmaybe he has a split personality?Jul 02 19:32
sebsebsebthey were on to something with the phones and tables and asxed itJul 02 19:32
sebsebsebok sure maybe it would never get really popularJul 02 19:33
MinceRthey were on to nothingJul 02 19:33
sebsebsebbut money could have been made there later onJul 02 19:33
oiaohmMinceR: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg  look closely you have given privillage.Jul 02 19:33
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oiaohmMinceR: logind allows doing this without giving privillage to snoop on other users.Jul 02 19:33
MinceRwhenever they dared to take the initiative on something, it always sucked, except for one thing: slightly more up-to-date debian stable in the beginningJul 02 19:33
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu touch is actsaully quite nice for what it is, when being realsitc, about what it can and cannot doJul 02 19:33
MinceRthat workedJul 02 19:33
sebsebsebsame now for the fork ubportsJul 02 19:33
MinceRoiaohm: it's 2017. there are no "other users" on most workstations.Jul 02 19:33
MinceRoiaohm: and there's no X on most servers.Jul 02 19:34
MinceRoiaohm: but keep guessing.Jul 02 19:34
MinceRsebsebseb: does it depend on kdbus or systemd?Jul 02 19:34
oiaohmMinceR: LOLJul 02 19:34
sebsebsebMinceR: systemd don't  think soJul 02 19:34
sebsebsebI think it uses upstart stillJul 02 19:34
MinceRoiaohm: meanwhile, your beloved bloated malware is causing daily headaches to admins managing actual production systems that actually existJul 02 19:34
sebsebsebMinceR: the 15.04 based version does not use systemdJul 02 19:35
oiaohmMinceR: even so giving privllage to snoop on input even applies to the way consolekit does text terminals.Jul 02 19:35
MinceRoiaohm: try to understand the difference betwen actual production systems that actually exist and lennart's thought experiments.Jul 02 19:35
sebsebsebthe one they were working on based on 16.04 though one reason for it not happenign or being delaed or whatevr was system d actsaullyJul 02 19:35
MinceRoiaohm: who has access to the physical console of a server?Jul 02 19:35
MinceRsebsebseb: so, only kdbus?Jul 02 19:35
oiaohmMinceR: remote users can be snooping on local users due to consolekit.Jul 02 19:35
MinceRsebsebseb: and by the way, upstart is atrocious, it's just that it's nowhere near as cancerous as systemd.Jul 02 19:36
oiaohmMinceR: if it was only a physical access problem it would be one thing.Jul 02 19:36
MinceRoiaohm: why the hell are you even running consolekit on a server?Jul 02 19:36
MinceRor polkit, for that matter?Jul 02 19:36
sebsebsebMinceR: how??Jul 02 19:36
MinceRsebsebseb: by abusing signals and ptraceJul 02 19:36
sebsebsebI don't really care much to be honestJul 02 19:37
MinceRsebsebseb: they relied on processes stopping themselves and having upstart resume themJul 02 19:37
sebsebsebas long as the os boots up ok :)Jul 02 19:37
MinceRsebsebseb: and they attached via ptrace (like a debugger) to every service they launchedJul 02 19:37
MinceRsebsebseb: and that signal abuse was there allegedly so upstart would notice that the service managed to initializeJul 02 19:37
sebsebsebhmm okJul 02 19:38
MinceRoiaohm: come back when systemd no longer breaks servers and workstations. until then, i don't want to hear about it.Jul 02 19:38
oiaohmMinceR: consolekit now consolekit2 is commonly deployed in all distributions using sysvinit.Jul 02 19:38
oiaohmMinceR: because without it you have a bigger mess.Jul 02 19:39
MinceRoiaohm: you've never seen a server install, have you?Jul 02 19:39
oiaohmMinceR: yes I have.Jul 02 19:39
oiaohmMinceR: manyJul 02 19:39
MinceRthen why are you spouting bullshit?Jul 02 19:39
oiaohmMinceR: the problem is I am not.Jul 02 19:39
MinceRbtw it's funny when a systemd apologist brings up the issue of securityJul 02 19:40
MinceRthrowing bricks in a glass houseJul 02 19:41
MinceRat least my "init system" doesn't open network connections.Jul 02 19:41
sebsebsebMinceR: systemd systemd like an infection inside MinceR brainJul 02 19:41
MinceRor ignore its configuration and run services as root instead of what it was told toJul 02 19:42
sebsebsebMinceR: your AIJul 02 19:42
MinceRsebsebseb: no, it's an infection in what used to be gnu/linux distrosJul 02 19:42
sebsebsebMinceR: GNU/SystemD/LinuxJul 02 19:42
oiaohmMinceR: most of what has been done to systemd starts with a list of security problem.Jul 02 19:43
oiaohmMinceR: before the first line of systemd was written there was a list of security problems do address.   Of course the problem here is a major case of tunnel vision.Jul 02 19:44
oiaohmMinceR: basically fix everything on the List and break a stack of other things.Jul 02 19:44
MinceRoiaohm: and you, like your beloved tests, choose to ignore the problems with systemd. it's easy to believe it to be a solution then.Jul 02 19:44
MinceRoiaohm: who are you to tell others that the things systemd breaks are not important?Jul 02 19:45
MinceRthe NSA?Jul 02 19:45
oiaohmDo I say that.Jul 02 19:45
MinceRyes, over and over.Jul 02 19:45
oiaohmNo I don't Jul 02 19:45
oiaohmdig out my exact words.Jul 02 19:45
MinceRyou insult people because they have the audacity to not run your beloves NSA backdoor on their systems.Jul 02 19:45
MinceR"idiot" was one exact wordJul 02 19:45
oiaohmMostly call you a idiot because you most believe that nothing about systemd is right.Jul 02 19:46
MinceRinstead of believing that everything about systemd is rightJul 02 19:46
oiaohmSo its the idiot who throws the baby out with the bath water.Jul 02 19:46
MinceRand especially that superficial patches will fix fundamental design flawsJul 02 19:46
MinceRoohJul 02 19:46
oiaohmNo I have said systemd core need to be broken down.Jul 02 19:46
oiaohmI have never said that systemd is absolutely right.Jul 02 19:46
MinceRwho throwed away cron, atd, [x]inetd, mount, sudo, su, ntpd, etc. away, again?Jul 02 19:46
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oiaohmI would not have been pushing for openrc if I believed it was absolutely right.Jul 02 19:47
MinceRyet here you are, ignoring openrc, singing the praises of systemd.Jul 02 19:47
MinceRfunny thing is, devuan does have an openrc packageJul 02 19:47
MinceRnot sure how well supported it is, thoughJul 02 19:47
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oiaohmMinceR: cron and at there is more than 1 form.   Most are broken.   [x]inetd same problem.    ntpd systemd does not replace that.  Does include a ntp look up tool so does other things like busybox.Jul 02 19:51
oiaohmdevuan openrc support is worse than debian support that is not good.Jul 02 19:52
oiaohmMinceR: openrc does have a cron that is compadible with it and lot like systemd timers it don't work without openrc.Jul 02 19:54
oiaohmMinceR: really we will not get anywhere if we ignore the defects in the existing tools.    That is part of what lead to systemd having lack of valid competition.Jul 02 19:57
MinceRso, throw out the crons that are not broken because some are brokenJul 02 19:57
MinceRand you shoot your mouth off about "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"Jul 02 19:58
MinceRhow can "we'll prevent you from using a lot of packages like cups" be worse than what devuan does?Jul 02 19:58
oiaohmMinceR: not at all.   https://github.com/systemd-cron/systemd-cron  Someone did go and write in python a cron that in fact works with systemd.Jul 02 19:58
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MinceRseems to me that glass house is made of sugar glassJul 02 19:59
MinceRoiaohm: how about stop breaking stuff?Jul 02 19:59
MinceRis that not an option?Jul 02 19:59
MinceRwhy does systemd have to its own special unique snowflake version of thingsJul 02 20:00
MinceRwhy can it not be just an init system?Jul 02 20:00
oiaohmMinceR: Problem here is these security fixes by systemd are attempt to stop stuff from breaking.Jul 02 20:00
MinceRand if you absolutely have to rewrite cron, why make it depend on systemd?Jul 02 20:00
MinceRyes, attemptsJul 02 20:00
MinceRspecifically, bad attempts, that cause more harm than goodJul 02 20:00
oiaohmSo if stuff was not broken in the first place there would have been no reason for systemd development.Jul 02 20:00
MinceRbut hey, you get to keep tryingJul 02 20:01
MinceRmaybe someday you'll get it right.Jul 02 20:01
MinceRyes, if the world was perfect, there would have been no way to come up with an excuse for systemd.Jul 02 20:01
oiaohmIf you want to get rid of systemd what ever is being made to replace it has to address the problems.Jul 02 20:01
MinceRagain, you're lyingJul 02 20:01
MinceRi don't want to get rid of systemdJul 02 20:01
MinceRi don't even want to get it in the first place!Jul 02 20:02
oiaohmReally wrong.Jul 02 20:02
MinceRyou systemd cultists pretend that systemd is the status quo, that it was always hereJul 02 20:02
MinceRand at the same time keep claiming it's so modern and hip and coolJul 02 20:02
oiaohmNo I don't pretend that.Jul 02 20:02
MinceRwhat sort of mental gymnastics does that require?Jul 02 20:02
MinceRis there really any part of your minds that isn't twisted beyond the point of breaking at this point?Jul 02 20:02
oiaohmWe have had major development issues for a long time.Jul 02 20:03
oiaohmLot of faults ignored.Jul 02 20:03
MinceRsystemd has yet to prove that it's stable, that it's mature, that it's worth adoptingJul 02 20:03
MinceRand redhat has yet to prove that it is worth trusting.Jul 02 20:03
oiaohmReally the Linux kernel does not have the stuff required to prove is worth trusting either.Jul 02 20:03
MinceRsoundbites such as "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call.Jul 02 20:04
MinceR" do not help.Jul 02 20:04
MinceRbadly chosen defaults also do not help.Jul 02 20:04
oiaohmCome up it took to 2017 for the Linux kernel to start developing a define of the user space ABI.Jul 02 20:04
MinceRso, what kernel do you suggest instead?Jul 02 20:04
oiaohmI wish I had a good general OS kernel to recommend.Jul 02 20:05
oiaohmI like stuff in the sel4 class.Jul 02 20:05
MinceRsel4 is just a layer under LinuxJul 02 20:05
oiaohmNo it notJul 02 20:05
oiaohmsel4 does have userspace.Jul 02 20:05
oiaohmthat is not LinuxJul 02 20:05
MinceRwhat does that userspace do?Jul 02 20:06
oiaohmanyone who has done mil grade drones knows it.Jul 02 20:06
MinceRand which of my computers can run sel4 and be useful with it?Jul 02 20:06
oiaohmMost likely nothing you have to audited standard.Jul 02 20:06
MinceR(my laptop needed slackware64-current just to get the wifi and ethernet to work at all)Jul 02 20:06
MinceR(i wonder how well the bsd-s will work with it...)Jul 02 20:06
oiaohmThis is my problem everything I am using I know is crap.Jul 02 20:07
oiaohmThe question is what level of crap.Jul 02 20:07
MinceRexcept for systemdJul 02 20:07
oiaohmNo systemd is crapJul 02 20:07
MinceRyou don't seem to quite fathom how crap systemd isJul 02 20:07
oiaohmI most likely fathom it more than you.Jul 02 20:07
MinceRit's on a level of crapitude that is normally reserved to microsoft and apple productsJul 02 20:07
oiaohmI know where developed from.Jul 02 20:07
oiaohmI know what is design is meant to-doJul 02 20:07
MinceRoh, right, solaris is on an epic level of crapness tooJul 02 20:08
MinceRand i almost forgot about vms thereJul 02 20:08
oiaohmvms takes a lot bad things and makes them worse from Unix.Jul 02 20:08
MinceRwell, that was its whole pointJul 02 20:08
oiaohmLike binary logging without sealing.Jul 02 20:08
oiaohmIf you doing binary logging is most likely so you can seal the logs.Jul 02 20:09
MinceRor because you've gone out of your mind.Jul 02 20:09
MinceRi'm pretty sure i could seal text logs.Jul 02 20:09
oiaohmThen windows binary logger get better lets store all text values in a look up table.Jul 02 20:09
MinceRin fact, i'm pretty sure i could do it with signatures that are themselves in textual form.Jul 02 20:09
oiaohmwindows and VMS logging.Jul 02 20:09
oiaohmSo you want to hide you attack rewrite 1 entry.Jul 02 20:10
MinceRor i could put them in a separate binaryJul 02 20:10
MinceRthere are many sane ways to do loggingJul 02 20:10
oiaohmor just a handful of entries.Jul 02 20:10
MinceRbinary is not suchJul 02 20:10
oiaohmWindows and VMS logging takes it to a level that journald starts looking good.Jul 02 20:10
MinceRespecially not with burning core dumps into the log so it's extremely bloated and unmanageable.Jul 02 20:10
oiaohmMinceR: most binary logging is extremely bloated this predates VMS.Jul 02 20:11
MinceRfunny, i'd expect the oppositeJul 02 20:12
MinceRconsidering that a lot of things can be expressed more conciselyJul 02 20:12
MinceRi'm also pretty sure i could write a service manager that doesn't need to rely on a syslog replacement to remember what the last exit code of a process was.Jul 02 20:12
oiaohmall the unix and vms early had core dump directed into their binary logs  They logs are binary right so storing binary core dumps should be fine right?Jul 02 20:12
MinceRright, if you never actually think about itJul 02 20:13
MinceRand never actually test the system before setting this in stoneJul 02 20:13
oiaohmSo this is a Unix binary logging hang over.Jul 02 20:13
oiaohmworse its older than that.Jul 02 20:13
oiaohmMinceR: one for binary loggers for Multics include capture core dumps.Jul 02 20:15
oiaohmMinceR: we are talking problem that goes back to day 1.Jul 02 20:15
oiaohmMinceR: that we should have grown out of by now.Jul 02 20:15
MinceRand we haveJul 02 20:20
oiaohmsealing logging systems have kept the hang over.Jul 02 20:20
MinceRthere are lots and lots of unix syslogds that do text logging and do not include coredumps in the logsJul 02 20:20
MinceRseriously, will i have to write a sane sealing logging system?Jul 02 20:21
MinceRi doubt it.Jul 02 20:21
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oiaohmMost of the sealing logging systems for Unix are binary logging.   With the hang over.  Stupidly for governments to get into particular department you have to have sealing logging.Jul 02 20:22
oiaohmIt is why unix remained in some of those areas for so long.Jul 02 20:23
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MinceRi suspect either syslog-ng or syslog-ng Store Box can do signed plain text log filesJul 02 20:28
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MinceRthen there's this: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5848Jul 02 20:31
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MinceRsignature blocks must be printable asciiJul 02 20:31
MinceRthings are base64-encoded if necessaryJul 02 20:31
MinceRhttp://blog.gerhards.net/2011/11/journald-log-hash-chaining-is-broken.htmlJul 02 20:36
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oiaohmMinceR: rfc5848 is close but is not Forward Secure Sealing  rfc5848 works fine across wire.   Sealing is that there is a marker the log that is unique that is checking to that point.Jul 02 20:38
oiaohmMinceR: you also need to watch you dates closely https://lwn.net/Articles/512895/Jul 02 20:38
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oiaohmMinceR: 2011 early framework for sealing by having the hashs was there but the seal was missing.Jul 02 20:38
oiaohmMinceR: no seal of course is bipassable.Jul 02 20:39
oiaohmMinceR: it basically the same problem rfc5848 has.Jul 02 20:39
oiaohmMinceR: there really need to be a revision done to rfc5848 and add sealing.Jul 02 20:40
oiaohmMinceR: sealing is the thing that hurts doing multi individual log files.   Think having at add an entry every 15 min.   More files more entries.   Now you are kinda needing an archive of some form for sanity.Jul 02 20:53
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cubexyzwin95 was a horrible crash-festJul 02 21:50
cubexyzI can't believe anyone looks back on that era with fondnessJul 02 21:51
cubexyzwin3.1 locked up quite oftenJul 02 21:51
cubexyzand I thought windows 2.0 was quite slow, but I didn't really use it a lotJul 02 21:52
cubexyzback then it was a bit o a noveltyJul 02 21:52
cubexyzback when I first saw Sun4 boxes I thought SunOS 4.0 was pretty goodJul 02 21:54
cubexyzthis was around 1989Jul 02 21:54
cubexyzSunOS from that era was BSD basedJul 02 21:55
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-solaris.jpgJul 02 22:01
cubexyzof course it wasn't idealJul 02 22:02
cubexyzclosed source and it ran on expensive hardwareJul 02 22:02
cubexyzbut compared to windows 3.0 I'Jul 02 22:02
cubexyzI'd say SunOS 4 was pretty good :)Jul 02 22:03
cubexyzso Sun4 era, you got a 32-bit SPARC arch with weitek 1164 FPUJul 02 22:06
cubexyz19-inch landscape monitorJul 02 22:06
cubexyz32 megs of ram (back in 1989 that was a lot)Jul 02 22:06
cubexyzbut $40K and up for a complete systemJul 02 22:13
oiaohmWith windows 95 I was really only starting to learn better.Jul 02 22:28
cubexyzin 1995 people were brain-washedJul 02 22:29
cubexyzI had Minix. OS/2 and FreeBSD for saleJul 02 22:29
oiaohmNot exactly no internet where I was.Jul 02 22:29
cubexyzonly sold one copy of OS/2Jul 02 22:29
oiaohmand windows pc were it.Jul 02 22:30
cubexyzwell, if you prefer, people were ignorantJul 02 22:30
oiaohmNo market competition or access to other competition.Jul 02 22:30
cubexyzI assume you folks had Ataris and Amigas thoughJul 02 22:30
oiaohmNopJul 02 22:31
cubexyzof course, that was late 1980s, early 1990sJul 02 22:31
cubexyzhuh, surprisingJul 02 22:31
oiaohmc64 if lucky.Jul 02 22:31
cubexyz1995 was a bit of a grim time for computersJul 02 22:32
oiaohmThis is why I say not always brain washed in 1995Jul 02 22:32
oiaohmSometimes it was pure lack of access to anything else.Jul 02 22:32
cubexyzyou must have had some access to non-win95 machines?Jul 02 22:32
oiaohmOnly when I got to UniJul 02 22:32
oiaohmThen that went strange.Jul 02 22:33
cubexyzwe were running Xenix 286 on our whitebox 286's in 1987Jul 02 22:33
cubexyzor at least I wasJul 02 22:33
oiaohmAt Uni windows 3.11 running from a server on computers without harddrives.Jul 02 22:33
oiaohmOn 10 based coaxJul 02 22:34
cubexyzyou didn't see linux at all in 1995?Jul 02 22:34
oiaohmthat is where I meet HPUX for the first time.Jul 02 22:34
cubexyzor FreeBSD?Jul 02 22:35
oiaohmand found out about freebsd and Linux.Jul 02 22:35
oiaohm 1996 is basically when I found Linux.Jul 02 22:35
oiaohmHPUX 1995 I had the fun of messing with it process table with modified fork bomb to lock everyone out of the server and give me all the processing power.Jul 02 22:36
oiaohmcubexyz: so there was quite a dark age of OS information.Jul 02 22:38
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cubexyzthere's two different dark ages with regards to computersJul 02 23:07
cubexyz1) no source code and/or toolchain availableJul 02 23:07
cubexyz2) the physical media becomes obsolete or the hardware to read it is no longer manufacturedJul 02 23:08
cubexyzloki games? no source code at allJul 02 23:10
cubexyzok the SDL libs are, and there used to be newsgroups for loki.open-source.etcJul 02 23:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kxa9p/does_linus_still_code_for_linux/Jul 03 03:52
schestowitzLP doesJul 03 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Does Linus still code for Linux? : linuxJul 03 03:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/881782593951330305Jul 03 04:09
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Linux 4.12 I/O Scheduler Tests With A HDD & SSDJul 03 04:09
TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost   https://t.co/LM2iufyosv (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmarkJul 03 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881787052198678528Jul 03 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen Gets New SoftwareJul 03 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/XJCVXoBjgB (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenOSJul 03 04:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #tizen #gnu #linux #samsungJul 03 04:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen Gets New Software | Tux MachinesJul 03 04:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tizen Gets New Software https://t.co/XJCVXoBjgB #tizenOS #tizen...'Jul 03 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881788012547497984Jul 03 04:15
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux 4.13 Features and #GPU / #Graphics NewsJul 03 04:15
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/eyezV8Dr2L (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 03 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.13 Features and GPU/Graphics News | Tux MachinesJul 03 04:15
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 04:15
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.13 Features and #GPU / #Graphics News...'Jul 03 04:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881793872569016322Jul 03 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 New #Debian Developers, #Ubuntu Community Council, andJul 03 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 More #LinuxMint 18.2 FlavoursJul 03 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/DHnDfTBdP7 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 04:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Debian Developers, Ubuntu Community Council, and More Linux Mint 18.2 Flavours | Tux MachinesJul 03 04:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881794034146136064Jul 03 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/VDv8CF6LVnJul 03 04:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #googleJul 03 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 03 04:39
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 04:39
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/VDv8CF6LVn #android #linux #google'Jul 03 04:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881794704643432449Jul 03 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 #Microsoft is laying off ‘thousands’ of staff in a majorJul 03 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 global sales reorganization https://t.co/2708KuJYgGJul 03 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 04:40
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft is laying off ‘thousands’ of staff in a major global sales reorganization | Tux MachinesJul 03 04:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Debian Developers, #Ubuntu Community Council, and More...'Jul 03 04:42
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft is laying off ‘thousands’ of staff in...'Jul 03 04:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/881796479656112128Jul 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Android Leftovers https://t.co/VDv8CF6LVnJul 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33       (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #googleJul 03 04:59
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 04:59
*TweetTuxMachines @nifty_update favourited '#Microsoft is laying off ‘thousands’ of staff in...'Jul 03 05:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881804029784993792Jul 03 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #OSI News, #LinkedIn #Openwashing, #HedgeFundJul 03 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Openwashing, and #Wikipedia as a GameJul 03 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/YAHCZfVbCE (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 05:18
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI News, LinkedIn Openwashing, Hedge Fund Openwashing, and Wikipedia as a Game | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881804403283505153Jul 03 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Older #RedHat Press CoverageJul 03 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/0SopH7IOKF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Older Red Hat Press Coverage | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OSI News, #LinkedIn #Openwashing, #HedgeFund Openwashing, and #Wikipedia...'Jul 03 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Older #RedHat Press Coverage https://t.co/0SopH7IOKF...'Jul 03 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881804947091845120Jul 03 05:23
TweetTuxMachines                 #GNOME #Keysign 0.9 Released, Back to GNOMEJul 03 05:23
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/sqxS23VxxU (www.tuxmachines.org) #guadecJul 03 05:23
TweetTuxMachines                 #manchesterJul 03 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Keysign 0.9 Released, Back to GNOME | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:23
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:23
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME #Keysign 0.9 Released, Back to GNOME ...'Jul 03 05:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881805964718084096Jul 03 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosJul 03 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/negsus9Uof (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnuJul 03 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #unixJul 03 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/negsus9Uof #howto #gnu #linux #unix...'Jul 03 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881806744690860032Jul 03 05:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #Software and #Games: #NetworkMonitoring, #Steam Usage,Jul 03 05:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #RPCS3 Has Moved to #Qt, #Go support in #KDevelop, andJul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #Q... https://t.co/RJj3WzXLXm (joindiaspora.com)Jul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Software and #Games: #NetworkMonitoring, #Steam Usage, #RPCS3 Has ...Jul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881807193493864451Jul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 New #Kubernetes Release and Older #Docker NewsJul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/nRJTt0n9J8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #containerJul 03 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kubernetes Release and Older Docker News | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #freesw #serverJul 03 05:30
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Software and #Games: #NetworkMonitoring, #Steam Usage, #RPCS3 Has...'Jul 03 05:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881807695619252224Jul 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 today's #tuxmachines leftoversJul 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/NPn7ajUQGT (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:32
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:32
*TweetTuxMachines @Grigortw retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Kubernetes Release and Older #Docker News ...'Jul 03 05:33
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Kubernetes Release and Older #Docker News ...'Jul 03 05:34
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/NPn7ajUQGT...'Jul 03 05:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881809195661758464Jul 03 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 3/7/2017: Microsoft Layoffs, New Linux Kernel, NewJul 03 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Mint, and Older FOSS News https://t.co/A2B5jIPjKOJul 03 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 03 05:38
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/7/2017: Microsoft Layoffs, New Linux Kernel, New Linux Mint, and Older FOSS News | TechrightsJul 03 05:38
*TweetTuxMachines @hallgeir favourited 'Brewing beer with #Linux,# Python, and #RaspberryPi https://t.co/kOsUViJBVH...'Jul 03 05:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brewing beer with Linux, Python, and Raspberry Pi | Tux MachinesJul 03 05:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881813153541222400Jul 03 06:10
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 3/7/2017: Microsoft Layoffs, New Linux Kernel, NewJul 03 06:10
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Linux Mint, and Older FOSS News https://t.co/A2B5jIPjKOJul 03 06:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 03 06:10
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MinceRhttps://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/p960x960/19575391_10101241578554245_7414780601532215059_o.jpg?oh=c7f23b4d33a809d7a99b102cd75d0958&oe=59C6C926Jul 03 06:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/motolin5/status/881832475135164416Jul 03 07:21
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    New #Kubernetes Release and Older #Docker NewsJul 03 07:21
TweetTuxMachines @motolin5        https://t.co/nRJTt0n9J8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #containerJul 03 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kubernetes Release and Older Docker News | Tux MachinesJul 03 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #freesw #serverJul 03 07:21
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MinceRhttps://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=149902196520920&w=2Jul 03 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marc.info | 'systemd compat for doas' - MARCJul 03 08:59
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MinceRhttps://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10813029&cid=54733511Jul 03 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it.slashdot.org | 'Severe' Systemd Bug Allowed Remote Code Execution For Two Years - SlashdotJul 03 10:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: #KeyChest, #Manjaro Password Weakness in #Calamares, #systemd...'Jul 03 10:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881889880086896640Jul 03 10:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of #Libinput 1.8Jul 03 10:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/jcIuIjnXxs (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 03 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of Libinput 1.8 | Tux MachinesJul 03 10:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxJul 03 10:59
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 10:59
*TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of #Libinput 1.8 https://t.co/jcIuIjnXxs #graphics #linux...'Jul 03 11:00
schestowitzMinceR: a bit crudeJul 03 11:00
MinceRyeah, it would be nice if redhat could cut it outJul 03 11:01
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of #Libinput 1.8 https://t.co/jcIuIjnXxs #graphics #linux...'Jul 03 11:01
schestowitzMinceR: well...Jul 03 11:04
schestowitzthey could use it to argue/demonstrate LP receives abuseJul 03 11:05
schestowitzdiscrediting systemd "deniers" or "sceptics"Jul 03 11:05
*TweetTuxMachines @NewsCoverUp retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of #Libinput 1.8 https://t.co/jcIuIjnXxs #graphics #linux...'Jul 03 11:05
MinceRthey already startedJul 03 11:08
MinceRpoettering is a crybullyJul 03 11:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881896615228977153Jul 03 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Ars spends too much time trying to work in #Haiku, theJul 03 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                 #BeOS successorJul 03 11:25
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/DvLqc9fV5J (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 11:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ars spends too much time trying to work in Haiku, the BeOS successor | Tux MachinesJul 03 11:25
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ars spends too much time trying to work...'Jul 03 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881897819690463232Jul 03 11:57
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Release of #Libinput 1.8Jul 03 11:57
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/jcIuIjnXxs (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 03 11:57
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxJul 03 11:57
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 11:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881904663611703296Jul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Security: Hacker’s Preference, #OutlawCountry, and theJul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest #BlackDuck FUDJul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/zqm9QJ1POu (www.tuxmachines.org) #securityJul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux  #vault7Jul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Hacker’s Preference, OutlawCountry, and the Latest Black Duck FUD | Tux MachinesJul 03 11:59
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Hacker’s Preference, #OutlawCountry, and the Latest #BlackDuck...'Jul 03 11:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881905264139653120Jul 03 12:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Oracle and Red Hat NewsJul 03 12:00
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/rmRlYnvJ9c (www.tuxmachines.org) #containerJul 03 12:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #server #redhat #oracle #gnu #linux #freesw #vmJul 03 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle and Red Hat News | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:00
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:00
*TweetTuxMachines @LuckyDogSecure favourited 'Security: Hacker’s Preference, #OutlawCountry, and the Latest #BlackDuck...'Jul 03 12:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881905692122198018Jul 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #Fujitsu, #SUSE, and the #YaST Development SprintJul 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/73iQMMOsya (www.tuxmachines.org) #opensuseJul 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #japan #serverJul 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu, SUSE, and the YaST Development Sprint | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881906119823814656Jul 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color NowJul 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Works With More Icon ThemesJul 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/BX14OG58Dy (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Switching From Unity to GNOME, Folder Color Now Works With More Icon Themes | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881906416755376128Jul 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosJul 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BB48nwT4BR (www.tuxmachines.org) #howtoJul 03 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #unix #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881907114037440514Jul 03 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                 #System76 's #PopOS and #GuyTuxJul 03 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/c2aocQIH3x (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:08
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76's Pop!_OS and Guy Tux | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881907389464752129Jul 03 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Improving #Kubuntu, Getting the New #LinuxMintJul 03 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tEMMx2GCRb (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntuJul 03 12:10
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #plasma #kdeJul 03 12:10
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Kubuntu, Getting the New Linux Mint | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881907898674270208Jul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Games: #Aftercharge, #CrossCode, #XCOM2Jul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/mHeKdWdsAJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnuJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Aftercharge, CrossCode, XCOM 2 | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881908184125984773Jul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux 4.12 Release and Linux 4.13 DevelopmentJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/2xduQ71Rni (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #gplJul 03 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 Release and Linux 4.13 Development | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:11
*TweetTuxMachines @M4rtinK favourited '#Jolla to Begin Testing #SailfishOS on the #Sony...'Jul 03 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/M4rtinK/status/881908283195392000Jul 03 12:15
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Jolla to Begin Testing #SailfishOS on the #Sony #XperiaJul 03 12:15
TweetTuxMachines @M4rtinK        X this MonthJul 03 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ygw0NQQBCz (www.tuxmachines.org) #linuxJul 03 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jolla to Begin Testing Sailfish OS on the Sony Xperia X this Month | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:16
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881909370157752321Jul 03 12:20
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Oracle and Red Hat NewsJul 03 12:20
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/rmRlYnvJ9c (www.tuxmachines.org) #containerJul 03 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle and Red Hat News | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 #server #redhat #oracle #gnu #linux #freesw #vmJul 03 12:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881910492083761154Jul 03 12:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Fujitsu, #SUSE, and the #YaST Development SprintJul 03 12:22
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/73iQMMOsya (www.tuxmachines.org) #opensuseJul 03 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu, SUSE, and the YaST Development Sprint | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #japan #serverJul 03 12:22
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881911130247057408Jul 03 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Still trying hard to 'compress' the news for @tuxmachinesJul 03 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 in a way that makes things easier to digest,Jul 03 12:23
TweetTuxMachines                 exhaustively, quickly. Does it work?Jul 03 12:23
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881911200413605893Jul 03 12:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color NowJul 03 12:24
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Works With More Icon ThemesJul 03 12:24
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/BX14OG58Dy (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Switching From Unity to GNOME, Folder Color Now Works With More Icon Themes | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:24
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 12:24
*TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited '#Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color...'Jul 03 12:30
*TweetTuxMachines @webmastersguard favourited '#Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color...'Jul 03 12:30
*TweetTuxMachines @webmastersguard retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color...'Jul 03 12:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881914015626252288Jul 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtosJul 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/BB48nwT4BR (www.tuxmachines.org) #howtoJul 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 #unix #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881915947250053120Jul 03 12:44
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #System76 's #PopOS and #GuyTuxJul 03 12:44
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/c2aocQIH3x (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76's Pop!_OS and Guy Tux | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Meanwhile in the UK, before the summer...'Jul 03 12:45
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Meanwhile in the UK, before...'Jul 03 12:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881916759007252480Jul 03 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 New Java Coming Soon, Learning #Java, and #PythonJul 03 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                 TutorialJul 03 12:45
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/EU5e9wpwe7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Java Coming Soon, Learning Java, and Python Tutorial | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881916836434124802Jul 03 12:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Improving #Kubuntu, Getting the New #LinuxMintJul 03 12:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/tEMMx2GCRb (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntuJul 03 12:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #plasma #kdeJul 03 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Kubuntu, Getting the New Linux Mint | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881917703279304704Jul 03 12:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Games: #Aftercharge, #CrossCode, #XCOM2Jul 03 12:51
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/mHeKdWdsAJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnuJul 03 12:51
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxJul 03 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Aftercharge, CrossCode, XCOM 2 | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief favourited '#Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color...'Jul 03 12:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881918387475148800Jul 03 12:53
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu Switching From #Unity to #GNOME, Folder Color NowJul 03 12:53
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      Works With More Icon ThemesJul 03 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/BX14OG58Dy (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Switching From Unity to GNOME, Folder Color Now Works With More Icon Themes | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881918879483797511Jul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Security: Hacker’s Preference, #OutlawCountry, and theJul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      Latest #BlackDuck FUDJul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/zqm9QJ1POu (www.tuxmachines.org) #securityJul 03 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Hacker’s Preference, OutlawCountry, and the Latest Black Duck FUD | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux  #vault7Jul 03 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881919001101729793Jul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Fujitsu, #SUSE, and the #YaST Development SprintJul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/73iQMMOsya (www.tuxmachines.org) #opensuseJul 03 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu, SUSE, and the YaST Development Sprint | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #japan #serverJul 03 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881919010090233857Jul 03 12:57
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Oracle and Red Hat NewsJul 03 12:57
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/rmRlYnvJ9c (www.tuxmachines.org) #containerJul 03 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 #server #redhat #oracle #gnu #linux #freesw #vmJul 03 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle and Red Hat News | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881919713449840641Jul 03 12:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Linux 4.12 Release and Linux 4.13 DevelopmentJul 03 12:59
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/2xduQ71Rni (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 03 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 Release and Linux 4.13 Development | Tux MachinesJul 03 12:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #gplJul 03 12:59
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Care to comment publicly about the...'Jul 03 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881921545916084224Jul 03 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Stats [From #Microsoft-Connected Firm] Say #LinuxJul 03 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Marketshare Hit All-Time High Last MonthJul 03 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/NOR09kZ0q2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stats [From Microsoft-Connected Firm] Say Linux Marketshare Hit All-Time High Last Month | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/96XAnqdpZa (techrights.org)Jul 03 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU/Linux Market Share - TechrightsJul 03 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881921612806803456Jul 03 13:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    New Java Coming Soon, Learning #Java, and #PythonJul 03 13:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    TutorialJul 03 13:05
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/EU5e9wpwe7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Java Coming Soon, Learning Java, and Python Tutorial | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Stats [From #Microsoft-Connected Firm] Say #Linux Marketshare Hit...'Jul 03 13:05
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Stats [From #Microsoft-Connected Firm] Say #Linux Marketshare Hit...'Jul 03 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881922707474063364Jul 03 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux and #Graphics: Linux 4.13, 4.12, #Vulkan, and #AMDJul 03 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 #VegaJul 03 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/7eyWjp5UUp (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics: Linux 4.13, 4.12, Vulkan, and AMD Vega | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux and #Graphics: Linux 4.13, 4.12, #Vulkan, and...'Jul 03 13:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited '#Linux and #Graphics: Linux 4.13, 4.12, #Vulkan, and...'Jul 03 13:14
*TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux and #Graphics: Linux 4.13, 4.12, #Vulkan, and...'Jul 03 13:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881924946611638272Jul 03 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 This little 64-bit #NanoPi went to wirelessJul 03 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bfZVc04w5O (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This little 64-bit NanoPi went to wireless | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'This little 64-bit #NanoPi went to wireless https://t.co/bfZVc04w5O...'Jul 03 13:25
*TweetTuxMachines @Bazeelzebub favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/BB48nwT4BR #howto #unix #gnu #linux...'Jul 03 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881928767861641216Jul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #Ubuntu and Derivatives: #UbuntuCore in the Wild,Jul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #Canonical Design, and #LinuxMint 18.2Jul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a50up2yPE1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Derivatives: Ubuntu Core in the Wild, Canonical Design, and Linux Mint 18.2 | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881929275762495488Jul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/C8WDVsbX1KJul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #asusJul 03 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #zenfone #sharp #oneplusJul 03 13:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu and Derivatives: #UbuntuCore in the Wild, #Canonical...'Jul 03 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/C8WDVsbX1K #android #linux #google #asus #zenfone...'Jul 03 13:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881930523614085121Jul 03 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today GotJul 03 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Stamped By FSFJul 03 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ftlXjoj0T8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #fsf #privacyJul 03 13:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today Got Stamped By FSF | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today...'Jul 03 13:43
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/C8WDVsbX1K #android #linux #google #asus #zenfone...'Jul 03 13:44
*TweetTuxMachines @100rup retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/C8WDVsbX1K #android #linux #google #asus #zenfone...'Jul 03 13:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881931677450240000Jul 03 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 How #Canonical approaches the IoT market with #UbuntuCoreJul 03 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/YZCXXWSpT8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntuJul 03 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Canonical approaches the IoT market with Ubuntu Core | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881931856085692416Jul 03 13:46
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu and Derivatives: #UbuntuCore in the Wild,Jul 03 13:46
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      #Canonical Design, and #LinuxMint 18.2Jul 03 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a50up2yPE1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Derivatives: Ubuntu Core in the Wild, Canonical Design, and Linux Mint 18.2 | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How #Canonical approaches the IoT market with #UbuntuCore...'Jul 03 13:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How #Canonical approaches the IoT market with #UbuntuCore...'Jul 03 13:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today...'Jul 03 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881932458899517440Jul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    This little 64-bit #NanoPi went to wirelessJul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      https://t.co/bfZVc04w5O (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines Jul 03 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This little 64-bit NanoPi went to wireless | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881932806376615938Jul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #RedHat expands to booming #FortPointJul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/HbCpvbYx9L (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat expands to booming Fort Point | Tux MachinesJul 03 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                  #bostonJul 03 13:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat expands to booming #FortPoint https://t.co/HbCpvbYx9L #gnu...'Jul 03 13:52
*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat expands to booming #FortPoint https://t.co/HbCpvbYx9L #gnu...'Jul 03 13:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jdr_the/status/881933914394308610Jul 03 13:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jdr_the: @LEAFSFAN202 @mzee636 @schestowitz @_AntiTrump_ @LWalters45 @POTUS @LPNational Bomb? Who's talking about a bomb? Li… https://t.co/JRt3xLthYMJul 03 13:54
schestowitz"Bomb? Who's talking about a bomb? Lithium batteries catch fire. Well, sometimes explode. That is the issue. It is documented. (1)"Jul 03 13:54
schestowitz:-)Jul 03 13:54
schestowitzSamsung Note became notorious for this...Jul 03 13:54
MinceRand apparently hypePhones didn't even though they exploded and caught fire more than any other phoneJul 03 13:55
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schestowitzpatent in a cup!!! https://patentlyo.com/patent/2017/05/descriptions-shifting-embodiment.htmlJul 03 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Removing Limitations and Failing Written DescriptionJul 03 14:02
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Today boom. Tomorrow boom. Sooner or later, boom!Jul 03 14:11
schestowitzyou sound like donald TrumpJul 03 14:11
DaemonFCThat was actually from Babylon 5.Jul 03 14:12
DaemonFCThe Samsung Note 7: Burn Me Twice Edition.Jul 03 14:13
DaemonFCIt's like they can't stop reopening the wound.Jul 03 14:13
*TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 https://t.co/FLEnsDVEwd...'Jul 03 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Tux MachinesJul 03 14:14
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XRevan86DaemonFC: But nobody listens to poor ZathrasJul 03 14:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/881943885026648064Jul 03 14:33
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today GotJul 03 14:33
TweetTuxMachines @glynmoody      Stamped By FSFJul 03 14:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ftlXjoj0T8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today Got Stamped By FSF | Tux MachinesJul 03 14:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #fsf #privacyJul 03 14:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/KU5H4L/status/881943953930571776Jul 03 14:48
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today GotJul 03 14:48
TweetTuxMachines @KU5H4L         Stamped By FSFJul 03 14:48
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ftlXjoj0T8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 14:48
TweetTuxMachines                 #fsf #privacyJul 03 14:48
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DaemonFCI don't know why Manjaro is getting more popular. Phoronix tested a bunch of distributions, and Manjaro's performance was significantly worse than most in the majority of benchmarks.Jul 03 14:49
DaemonFCSomething that Manjaro is doing is leading to severe performance problems.Jul 03 14:50
MinceRbecause it's an escape route for arch users away from cancerdJul 03 14:51
MinceRof course it still suffers being built on top of archJul 03 14:51
*TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#UbuntuBudgie 17.04 – new kid on the block...'Jul 03 14:56
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn To the #tories or #EvilParty the bigger...'Jul 03 14:56
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thrillerJul 03 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Thriller [ http://ur1.ca/r5uyc ]Jul 03 15:10
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn To the #tories or #EvilParty...'Jul 03 15:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881953734598721537Jul 03 15:13
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux 4.13 Features Preview https://t.co/gyifUXxhfVJul 03 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.13 Features Preview | Tux MachinesJul 03 15:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 03 15:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.13 Features Preview https://t.co/gyifUXxhfV #kernel'Jul 03 15:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/CrazyHomies/status/881956532686139392Jul 03 15:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today GotJul 03 15:24
TweetTuxMachines @CrazyHomies    Stamped By FSFJul 03 15:24
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ftlXjoj0T8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 03 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nine Most Privacy-Loving Laptops You Can Buy Today Got Stamped By FSF | Tux MachinesJul 03 15:24
TweetTuxMachines                 #fsf #privacyJul 03 15:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @EleonorahMarti1 favourited '#Linux 4.13 Features Preview https://t.co/gyifUXxhfV #kernel'Jul 03 15:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/zerosecunclosed/status/881959559962779652Jul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu and Derivatives: #UbuntuCore in the Wild,Jul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines @zerosecunclosed  #Canonical Design, and #LinuxMint 18.2Jul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/a50up2yPE1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 03 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Derivatives: Ubuntu Core in the Wild, Canonical Design, and Linux Mint 18.2 | Tux MachinesJul 03 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881961009598091264Jul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Linux 4.13 Features Preview https://t.co/gyifUXxhfVJul 03 15:41
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 03 15:41
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Reince @realDonaldTrump @POTUS @GOP Again, pseudo-machoism from a...'Jul 03 15:41
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Reince @realDonaldTrump @POTUS @GOP Again, pseudo-machoism...'Jul 03 15:41
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Reince @realDonaldTrump @POTUS @GOP Again, pseudo-machoism from a...'Jul 03 15:41
DaemonFCLooks like we're going to have our first state budget in three years. 15 House Republicans defected from Governor Rauner and gave the budget bill a veto-proof majority, in the state House at least.Jul 03 15:43
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Reince @realDonaldTrump @POTUS @GOP Again, pseudo-machoism...'Jul 03 15:43
DaemonFCRauner's going down fast. Some of the Republicans are starting to buckle now that their constituents are getting tossed out of nursing homes and things like Southern Illinois University are on the verge of collapse.Jul 03 15:44
DaemonFCWhen asked how programs that keep the elderly out of nursing homes (for example, by sending a home health aide to drive them to their doctor's office) would be replaced, the Republican Governor said, quote, "Well, maybe the state can just pay to get them an Uber.". He's starting to sound like the Tories in the UK.Jul 03 15:44
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Reince @realDonaldTrump @POTUS @GOP It almost looks as...'Jul 03 15:50
abeNd-orgpffff, throw all the bums out, on either "side of the isle" they are all just their to get their back pockets slicked & screw over everyone elseJul 03 15:52
DaemonFChttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/27/trump-name-scrubbed-toronto-canada-hotelJul 03 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Trump's name to be scrubbed from high-rise building in Toronto | US news | The GuardianJul 03 15:52
DaemonFCThe owners of a building in Toronto paid Trump millions for the right to take his name OFF the building.Jul 03 15:52
abeNd-orgI don't get why people allow themselves to be so polarized either way, do they not realize the people in office they are supporting don't give a rats rear about them or anyone else?Jul 03 15:55
abeNd-orgits almost as crazy as the closed source vs opensource/foss/etc zealotry, but at least there you have use cases, security issues, facts & figures, etcJul 03 15:57
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtWbpyjJqrUJul 03 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slow Motion Flipping Cat Physics | Smarter Every Day 58 - YouTubeJul 03 15:57
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DaemonFCLooks like two bugs I reported in Webkit2GTK+ were fixed.Jul 03 16:06
DaemonFCAnd they're looking into a bug I filed on selinux-policy.Jul 03 16:06
DaemonFCI found an extension for the GNOME shell that removes the app's toolbar list from the top panel.Jul 03 16:13
DaemonFCPuts it back into the app as a Client Side Decoration.Jul 03 16:13
MinceRrunning on a sane WM or DE would put it back in the app as part of the client areaJul 03 16:14
MinceRat least until the lendows people decide to break that tooJul 03 16:14
DaemonFCMinceR, The fallback is to put it in the window itself as a CSD in case you're not running the app on GNOME.Jul 03 16:16
MinceRi don't think it's a CSD at that pointJul 03 16:16
DaemonFCThe thing in the panel is just a waste of space because non-GNOME apps only have one thing in it. "Exit"Jul 03 16:17
MinceRor a decoration at allJul 03 16:17
DaemonFCIn GTK+ parlance, I believe that's the correct term.Jul 03 16:18
DaemonFCAnyway, having that menu in the top panel really fucks up the user experience if the user wants to put in panel favorites like GNOME 2 had.Jul 03 16:19
DaemonFCNot that the GNOME developers care, I'm sure.Jul 03 16:19
MinceRwhy would they? they don't care about usersJul 03 16:20
MinceRthey only care about powerJul 03 16:20
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schestowitzDaemonFC: guess it's a bad name where people have brains that are usableJul 03 16:28
schestowitzto the UK he intends to come secretlyJul 03 16:28
schestowitzas he knew there would be massive protestsJul 03 16:28
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/881566811459907585Jul 03 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanDunt: The American president wants to sneak into London in the dead of night because he's scared of protestors. https://t.co/egXseHcfjkJul 03 17:10
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DaemonFCI just have doubts about the viability of KDE long term.Jul 03 17:21
DaemonFCSome of their software still works fine, but some of it is bitrotting.Jul 03 17:22
DaemonFCThey have no immediate plans to remove hard dependencies on the X server.Jul 03 17:22
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DaemonFCMinceR, Turns out that SELinux Policy bug I found leads to another problem.Jul 03 18:29
DaemonFCIf gsd-power can't read machine-id then when you go to shut down the computer, you get a kernel panic.Jul 03 18:30
DaemonFC:/Jul 03 18:30
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DaemonFCHmm, I've been reading up on systemd-journald, MinceR Jul 03 20:34
DaemonFCBy default, it will limit itself to 10% of the partition size or 4 GB, whichever is greater.Jul 03 20:35
DaemonFCerrrJul 03 20:35
DaemonFCwhichever is smaller, I meant....Jul 03 20:35
DaemonFCAlthough there are commands to purge parts of the log yourself.Jul 03 20:36
DaemonFCKeep only x number of days or x number of MB/GB. Jul 03 20:36
DaemonFCIt seems that in my case, the last month's worth of rotated journals was taking about 1 GB.Jul 03 20:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.netrunner.com/Jul 03 21:07
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DaemonFCLooks nice. I see they base off of Debian now instead of Ubuntu.Jul 03 21:07
oiaohmDaemonFC: KDE has been in different stages of bit rot for over 10 years.Jul 03 21:12
DaemonFCThey don't seem to have enough resources to manage all of their software.Jul 03 21:13
oiaohmNot exactly.Jul 03 21:13
DaemonFCI installed a Linux 4.12 kernel from some RPMs on Koji and it seems alright.Jul 03 21:14
DaemonFCSomething changed and all of the games that were performing poorly under Wayland seem to work well now.Jul 03 21:14
oiaohmfor a long time KDE has not run automated testsuiting on all submitted patches.Jul 03 21:15
DaemonFCI'll probably stick with this kernel until a 4.12 for Fedora 26 is released.Jul 03 21:15
oiaohmThis results in a lot of tail chasing.Jul 03 21:15
DaemonFCoiaohm, There was that bug in KMail for four years that was sending "encrypted" messages in plain text silently if you used send later.Jul 03 21:16
DaemonFCI suppose it wasn't found sooner because KMail is an awful program.Jul 03 21:16
DaemonFCThunderbird is much easier to set up.Jul 03 21:16
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oiaohmDaemonFC:  again no automated test suite checking for broken stuff.Jul 03 21:17
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cubexyzthat's better Jul 03 21:21
cubexyz "/var" got fullJul 03 21:21
DaemonFCHow did that happen?Jul 03 21:22
oiaohmDaemonFC: it was talked about in https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Epics/Continuous_Integration 2014 about automatically running testing.   https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2017/06/running-kwins-auto-test-suite/ and they are still working out how to get it working.Jul 03 21:22
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cubexyzthere's something not quite right about the video card in this boxJul 03 21:22
cubexyzit's generating a lot of Xorg errors, so Xorg.0.log was filling /varJul 03 21:23
cubexyzafter the power failure I forgot about startx -- -logverbose 0Jul 03 21:24
oiaohmcubexyz: I would say a little worse than not quite right. Jul 03 21:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: one of the biggest resource consumers is fix X bug then latter on reintroduce it again.   You find this in the KDE bug list where a bug is fixed then has to be fixed a few times before it fixed due to reintroduction.Jul 03 21:27
cubexyzoiaohm, it must be an odd case as visually I can't tell there's any problem with the videoJul 03 21:30
oiaohmcubexyz: I have had a few with quite bad issues run output fine.Jul 03 21:33
oiaohmcubexyz: you need to read over the log Jul 03 21:33
cubexyzwhat were the issues?Jul 03 21:34
oiaohmcubexyz: gpu reseting about every 4 min but due to keeping state everything out put appeared fine was one.  That one was clean heat sink.Jul 03 21:34
oiaohmcubexyz: monitor with random id code reporting so resulting in system probing over and over again.Jul 03 21:35
oiaohmcubexyz: video card fan failure and errors from that coming up.Jul 03 21:35
oiaohmcubexyz: basically long list of what the hecks.Jul 03 21:36
cubexyzI would have to replace the motherboard to fix this I thinkJul 03 21:36
cubexyzit's one of those onboard video onesJul 03 21:36
oiaohmStill on board it can be a very long list of strangeness.Jul 03 21:37
cubexyzok, well I can turn on logging for a few minutes and regenerate the errors for interest's sakeJul 03 21:39
cubexyzthe hard drive on this machine is relatively small so it filled up fastJul 03 21:40
oiaohmcubexyz: the one where it was the id issue replaced the monitor lead and it was fixed.Jul 03 22:03
oiaohmcubexyz: so reading what the log is yelling about might point to a dead simple fix.Jul 03 22:03
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cubexyzok...Jul 04 00:12
cubexyzthe Xorg log says:Jul 04 00:12
cubexyz"(==) VESA(0): Write-combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear"Jul 04 00:13
cubexyzover and overJul 04 00:13
DaemonFCFedora has KDE Frameworks 5.36 packages already in Koji but KDE hasn't even announced it. Heh.Jul 04 00:14
cubexyzthis is from the VESA driver on openbsdJul 04 00:14
cubexyznow I see other folks have accumulated 20 megs per day worth of that error messageJul 04 00:15
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oiaohmcubexyz: sorry I cannot be any help on that one never seen that message before.Jul 04 00:15
cubexyzseems to have someone do to with screen blankingJul 04 00:16
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cubexyzin Xorg.log files (WW) is a warning, (==) default setting and (EE) is for errorsJul 04 00:20
cubexyzbut this is merely (==) Jul 04 00:20
cubexyzit's like a debugging thing someone left onJul 04 00:20
cubexyzthere's thousands of entries generated a minuteJul 04 00:24
cubexyzmaybe over 10,000Jul 04 00:24
oiaohmI guess you cannot use proper driver for output.Jul 04 00:30
oiaohmI do know some vesa stacks are completely nuts.  I remember a old s3 I have around here would loss the mouse on vesaJul 04 00:31
cubexyzthis could be 1st gen integrated intel graphics chipsetJul 04 00:32
cubexyzi810 I thinkJul 04 00:33
cubexyzmaybe I should try the i810 driver againJul 04 00:34
cubexyzI forget why I didn't use itJul 04 00:34
cubexyzok... here goesJul 04 00:35
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cubexyzblack screen with purple and blue vertical bars Jul 04 00:41
cubexyzso the intel driver didn't work, which is why I switched to vesaJul 04 00:41
MinceRhttps://twitter.com/sadoperator/status/881945422423404544Jul 04 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sadoperator: poet·ter·ing (pŏtt′ərĭng) (verb): to flatly deny one's own error despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.Jul 04 00:48
cubexyzoiaohm, back to the same type of problem...Jul 04 00:51
cubexyzonce the video driver gets into a bad state there's no way to reset itJul 04 00:51
cubexyzand oddly enough on the system where I got video corruption in X, using radeonfb solved the problemJul 04 00:52
cubexyzbut in openbsd-land there is no framebufferJul 04 00:53
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oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver/  O heck.  810 is dri1 UMS or in otherwords the driver from hell.Jul 04 01:15
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oiaohmcubexyz: no one has updated 810 to KMS and DRI2 to give it some sanity.Jul 04 01:16
cubexyzwhat's UMS?Jul 04 01:19
oiaohmcubexyz: user mode setting.  Or in other words don't use a kernel mode driver so if something userspace goes wrong your stuffed.Jul 04 01:23
oiaohmcubexyz: UMS is basically equals trouble.Jul 04 01:23
cubexyzi810 is the only one with UMS :-/Jul 04 01:33
oiaohmi810 an i815Jul 04 01:34
oiaohmSo there is twoJul 04 01:35
cubexyzassuming there's nothing inbetween, yes :)Jul 04 01:35
MinceRdoes the nvidia blob do KMS yet?Jul 04 01:35
oiaohmcubexyz: https://reactos.org/wiki/Supported_Hardware/Video_cards  and some cases of testing i810 have had issues with generic vesa mode.Jul 04 01:36
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oiaohmMinceR: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/925605/linux/nvidia-364-12-release-vulkan-glvnd-drm-kms-and-eglstreams/  does support KMS to a point.Jul 04 01:38
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cubexyzsure, I want UMS but workingJul 04 01:38
cubexyzuser sets the modeJul 04 01:38
MinceR:)Jul 04 01:39
oiaohmcubexyz: UMS uses raw memory access from userspace.Jul 04 01:39
oiaohmcubexyz: lets not split kernel space and userspace properly.Jul 04 01:39
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/ccBBDKoJul 04 01:53
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DaemonFCSo Red Dwarf picked up and never explained what happened after Season 8 or why Rimmer is a hologram or anything.Jul 04 02:28
DaemonFCSeason 10 was terrible. Season 11 was alright.Jul 04 02:29
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oiaohmDaemonFC: I remember red dwarf season 1 and think that is the only one that describes why Rimmer is a hologram.Jul 04 02:30
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cubexyzthat was explained in the very first episodeJul 04 02:31
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cubexyzrimmer interacted with lister the most, so the computer brought him back as a hologramJul 04 02:31
oiaohmDaemonFC:  Dave Lister need something to keep him company so the computer AI brought Rimmer back as a hologram.Jul 04 02:31
cubexyzwhat he said :)Jul 04 02:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: after the first episode never said again.Jul 04 02:32
cubexyzeveryone dies except lister in the beginningJul 04 02:32
cubexyzand his catJul 04 02:32
oiaohmAnd lister lives because he was in cold storage for being incompetent.   How the cat lives with the human destroying raditation is never explained or how 1 cat alone manages to breed for many generations.Jul 04 02:35
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cubexyzmaybe there were other catsJul 04 02:35
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cubexyzI can't rememberJul 04 02:35
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oiaohmcubexyz: that is never mentioned if there were more than one cat at the start.   But the story of the cat race founding said by cat seams to describe only a single cat.Jul 04 02:36
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DaemonFCoiaohm, No, I mean the end of Season 8.Jul 04 02:37
cubexyzare they still making new episodes? red dwarf started in the 1980sJul 04 02:37
cubexyz1988 or soJul 04 02:37
DaemonFCThe ship is being eaten by something. Rimmer kicks death in the nuts.Jul 04 02:37
DaemonFCThe crew evacuates.Jul 04 02:37
DaemonFCThen they jump to Season 9 with no explanation of what happened.Jul 04 02:37
oiaohmRimmer is a hologram he was restored once from back up in the first series.Jul 04 02:39
DaemonFCRight, but the first Rimmer went to become Ace Rimmer.Jul 04 02:39
oiaohmSo as long as everyone else evacuates it fine.Jul 04 02:39
DaemonFCThen there was the human Rimmer that was resurrected by the nanobots.Jul 04 02:39
DaemonFCThen there's apparently another Rimmer hologram now.Jul 04 02:40
oiaohmThe reconstructed had the hologram core.Jul 04 02:40
oiaohmBasically if he did not make it out he would be a hologram again.Jul 04 02:40
oiaohmRimmer the unkillable basically.Jul 04 02:41
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oiaohmDaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Red_Dwarf_episodes#Red_Dwarf_VIII_.281999.29 you are refering to epsode 52.Jul 04 02:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882128146509725696Jul 04 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU #Linuxlibre 4.12 Kernel Released, More DriverJul 04 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 DeblobbingJul 04 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/79Ttd230cD (www.tuxmachines.org)  #gnuJul 04 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #freeswJul 04 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-libre 4.12 Kernel Released, More Driver Deblobbing | Tux MachinesJul 04 02:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882129062575169536Jul 04 02:51
TweetTuxMachines                 #LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux #KernelJul 04 02:51
TweetTuxMachines                 4.12, Here's How to InstallJul 04 02:51
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/PM3wAcrtgp (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Lite Users Are the First to Get Linux Kernel 4.12, Here's How to Install | Tux MachinesJul 04 02:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux...'Jul 04 02:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: rimmer in episode 52 does not make it to the escape craft with everyone else.   So standard Rimmer process when though dead restore backup.   Of course kicking death in the nuts is to be expected since Rimmer is already technically dead.Jul 04 02:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882130293523718148Jul 04 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE at Asian FOSS conferencesJul 04 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Gjz1pekNGo (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #asiaJul 04 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE at Asian FOSS conferences | Tux MachinesJul 04 02:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #freeswJul 04 02:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE at Asian FOSS conferences https://t.co/Gjz1pekNGo #kde...'Jul 04 02:55
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*TweetTuxMachines @Landoulsy_007 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux...'Jul 04 02:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @bap47 favourited 'What Are Ports? How To Find Open Ports...'Jul 04 03:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882133973257924608Jul 04 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Here’s who won 26 SBCs in our annual Hacker SBC SurveyJul 04 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/dDDT05GbQX (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s who won 26 SBCs in our annual Hacker SBC Survey | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #hardware #sbcJul 04 03:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Here’s who won 26 SBCs in our annual...'Jul 04 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882135569467310080Jul 04 03:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Linux Marketshare Stats Are WrongJul 04 03:17
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/8dqY45Yxij (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 03:17
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Linux Marketshare Stats Are Wrong | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:17
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why Linux Marketshare Stats Are Wrong https://t.co/8dqY45Yxij...'Jul 04 03:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882138012079017984Jul 04 03:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshot Tour of #LinuxMint 18.2 and UpgradeJul 04 03:27
TweetTuxMachines                 InstructionsJul 04 03:27
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/oeIPJt4HnA (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Screenshot Tour of Linux Mint 18.2 and Upgrade Instructions | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882138741493641218Jul 04 03:47
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Screenshot Tour of #LinuxMint 18.2 and UpgradeJul 04 03:47
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    InstructionsJul 04 03:47
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/oeIPJt4HnA (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 03:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882143768014704640Jul 04 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 #AMD #Radeon Vega Official Driver Support Comes To #LinuxJul 04 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 #Kernel 4.12 https://t.co/KXqsFcO06DJul 04 03:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 03:48
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Radeon Vega Official Driver Support Comes To Linux Kernel 4.12 | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882143961833517056Jul 04 03:50
TweetTuxMachines                 IoT Operating System Linux Takes Lead in IoT MarketJul 04 03:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Keeping 80% Market ShareJul 04 03:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RAQTfsWF15 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iotJul 04 03:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnuJul 04 03:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882144526764298240Jul 04 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosJul 04 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/RvOeytrupd (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnuJul 04 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #unixJul 04 03:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/RvOeytrupd #howto #gnu #linux #unix...'Jul 04 03:52
*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'IoT Operating System Linux Takes Lead in IoT...'Jul 04 03:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882145151145168896Jul 04 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Security: #Security Updates, #WikiLeaks, #LetsEncrypt,Jul 04 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #SystemDJul 04 03:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/lWN08coyaN (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 03:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, WikiLeaks, Let's Encrypt, SystemD | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882145554393944064Jul 04 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 #Ubuntu Snaps and #GNOMEShell TransitionJul 04 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/CE3JtgCC9f (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnuJul 04 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Snaps and GNOME Shell Transition | Tux MachinesJul 04 03:56
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #canonical #freeswJul 04 03:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Snaps and #GNOMEShell Transition https://t.co/CE3JtgCC9f #gnome...'Jul 04 03:59
*TweetTuxMachines @ARetVet retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Snaps and #GNOMEShell Transition https://t.co/CE3JtgCC9f #gnome...'Jul 04 03:59
*TweetTuxMachines @StephanLangenau favourited '#Ubuntu Snaps and #GNOMEShell Transition https://t.co/CE3JtgCC9f #gnome...'Jul 04 04:01
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @LibDems We have a...'Jul 04 04:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @LibDems Things have gotten so severe...'Jul 04 04:03
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @LibDems Things have gotten...'Jul 04 04:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #Security Updates, #WikiLeaks, #LetsEncrypt, #SystemD https://t.co/lWN08coyaN...'Jul 04 04:11
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/RvOeytrupd #howto #gnu #linux #unix...'Jul 04 04:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882150678843580416Jul 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    IoT Operating System Linux Takes Lead in IoT MarketJul 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Keeping 80% Market ShareJul 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RAQTfsWF15 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iotJul 04 04:17
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnuJul 04 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IoT Operating System Linux Takes Lead in IoT Market Keeping 80% Market Share | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882151440705302529Jul 04 04:18
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #AMD #Radeon Vega Official Driver Support Comes To #LinuxJul 04 04:18
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    #Kernel 4.12 https://t.co/KXqsFcO06DJul 04 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Radeon Vega Official Driver Support Comes To Linux Kernel 4.12 | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 04:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882152830282452992Jul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Goodbye To Bob ChassellJul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/KplX1wxP3D (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 "trailblazed as (likely) the earliest non-developerJul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 contributor to software freedom.Jul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Goodbye To Bob Chassell | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882153429975449600Jul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q8PrmjMkTgJul 04 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #lg #oneplusJul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines                 #xiaomi #vibe #lenovoJul 04 04:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/suzettepetillo/status/882154029387702273Jul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtosJul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines @suzettepetillo   https://t.co/RvOeytrupd (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnuJul 04 04:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:28
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #unixJul 04 04:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q8PrmjMkTg #android #linux #lg #oneplus #xiaomi...'Jul 04 04:29
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Goodbye To Bob Chassell https://t.co/KplX1wxP3D "trailblazed as (likely)...'Jul 04 04:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882157794304151552Jul 04 04:45
TweetTuxMachines                 The problem with software before standardsJul 04 04:45
TweetTuxMachines                   https://t.co/OzZaxXr6tt (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The problem with software before standards | Tux MachinesJul 04 04:45
TweetTuxMachines                 article from a standards professional (Andy Updegrove)Jul 04 04:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The problem with software before standards ...'Jul 04 05:07
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MinceRhttps://bugs.python.org/issue30810Jul 04 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.python.org | Issue 30810: Germany made the upper case ß official. 'ß'.upper() should now return ẞ. - Python trackerJul 04 06:04
*TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'Security: #Security Updates, #WikiLeaks, #LetsEncrypt, #SystemD https://t.co/lWN08coyaN...'Jul 04 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, WikiLeaks, Let's Encrypt, SystemD | Tux MachinesJul 04 06:05
TweetTuxMachines@philippe_md     https://twitter.com/philippe_md/status/882183982644953088Jul 04 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 The latest OpenSource Daily News! https://t.co/XgVamjbwYiJul 04 06:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines #linux #opensourceJul 04 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | OpenSource Daily NewsJul 04 06:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump When do The People get their Independence...'Jul 04 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Dependence Day. Dependence on oil from the...'Jul 04 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Dependence Day. Dependence on oil...'Jul 04 06:47
MinceRhttps://68.media.tumblr.com/b935c17e74d8045432f3a3953baf66c8/tumblr_osjblbSXmc1r60qv1o1_540.gifJul 04 06:52
oiaohmMinceR: thinking Volvo self drive cars have trouble dealing with kangaroos I have to wonder what they would do in that case. Jul 04 06:57
MinceRthey'd crash?Jul 04 06:57
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oiaohmMinceR: no but jamming breaks on for no good reason and other evils was not particularly nice.Jul 04 07:00
oiaohmhttps://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/06/volvos-driverless-cars-cant-figure-out-kangaroos/  The problem with kangaroos based on position and movement they change there appeared shape.Jul 04 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Volvo's Driverless Cars Can't Figure Out Kangaroos | Gizmodo Australia [ http://ur1.ca/r61lc ]Jul 04 07:01
oiaohmMinceR: turning truck like that I suspect might act the same.Jul 04 07:03
MinceR:)Jul 04 07:04
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @philippe_md: 'The latest OpenSource Daily News! https://t.co/XgVamjbwYi Thanks to...'Jul 04 07:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882195862948118528Jul 04 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: #SPAM and #AA BreachJul 04 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/uHFJwkOZFR (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 07:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: SPAM and AA Breach | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:15
*TweetTuxMachines @Bazeelzebub favourited 'What Are Ports? How To Find Open Ports...'Jul 04 07:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882196632498040832Jul 04 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft Layoffs and EEE (Raspberry Pi)Jul 04 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/gs4n7T8RnH (www.tuxmachines.org) asJul 04 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #microsoft collapses expect more of the latter. #entryismJul 04 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Layoffs and EEE (Raspberry Pi) | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:21
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/a/6tzevJul 04 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetJul 04 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882197570927423488Jul 04 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Events: #DGPLUG, #Cockpit Virtual Hackfest, and #LCAJul 04 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/0chdMA2NRA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 07:27
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:27
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: DGPLUG, Cockpit Virtual Hackfest, and LCA | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882199153064988672Jul 04 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS LeftoversJul 04 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/awJSx4AwCA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #ibm #mulesoftJul 04 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882199654552784896Jul 04 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #Software: #EternalTerminal, #LMMS, #LatteDock, ParlatypeJul 04 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                 and #KDE in #GSoCJul 04 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/sqZ0PD5Mcn (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 07:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Eternal Terminal, LMMS, Latte Dock, Parlatype and KDE in GSoC | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882199968060235776Jul 04 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux #Kernel, #Libinput, and #RADV #Vulkan DriverJul 04 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/xMfq01X7vi (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 04 07:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel, Libinput, and RADV Vulkan Driver | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882200292242206720Jul 04 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Debian LTS Development ActivitiesJul 04 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/O3RznDECJP (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Freexian's #freeswJul 04 07:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian LTS Development Activities | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882200664264323072Jul 04 07:34
TweetTuxMachines                 #RedHat and #DNF, Other #Fedora NewsJul 04 07:34
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Lmv0g8tTyz (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 07:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and DNF, Other Fedora News | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:34
oiaohmThat was fun spell checker stopped and tab auto complete failed.Jul 04 07:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882200880359120896Jul 04 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 today's #tuxmachines leftovers and howtosJul 04 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KKBNBdwoiF (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers and howtos | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers and howtos https://t.co/KKBNBdwoiF...'Jul 04 07:41
*TweetTuxMachines @debexpert favourited '#Debian LTS Development Activities https://t.co/O3RznDECJP #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 07:44
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat and #DNF, Other #Fedora News https://t.co/Lmv0g8tTyz...'Jul 04 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882203785938055170Jul 04 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 4/7/2017: Market Share Debate is Back, Libinput 1.8Jul 04 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Released https://t.co/MysZIgHShZ (techrights.org)Jul 04 07:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/7/2017: Market Share Debate is Back, Libinput 1.8 Released | TechrightsJul 04 07:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian LTS Development Activities https://t.co/O3RznDECJP #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 07:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian LTS Development Activities https://t.co/O3RznDECJP #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 07:52
oiaohmSome of these make me laugh.  http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.0/01380.html  apparmor: Fix error cod in __aa_fs_profile_mkdir()  << yes we have a error codJul 04 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: [GIT PULL] security subsystem updates for v4.13 [ http://ur1.ca/r61z7 ]Jul 04 07:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882205475487576065Jul 04 07:58
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Linux #Kernel, #Libinput, and #RADV #Vulkan DriverJul 04 07:58
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/xMfq01X7vi (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 04 07:58
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel, Libinput, and RADV Vulkan Driver | Tux MachinesJul 04 07:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882206889643302912Jul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Software: #EternalTerminal, #LMMS, #LatteDock, ParlatypeJul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    and #KDE in #GSoCJul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/sqZ0PD5Mcn (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Eternal Terminal, LMMS, Latte Dock, Parlatype and KDE in GSoC | Tux MachinesJul 04 08:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882208164061511680Jul 04 08:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    OSS LeftoversJul 04 08:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/awJSx4AwCA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 04 08:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #ibm #mulesoftJul 04 08:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux...'Jul 04 08:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882210339890368512Jul 04 08:12
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Events: #DGPLUG, #Cockpit Virtual Hackfest, and #LCAJul 04 08:12
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/0chdMA2NRA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: DGPLUG, Cockpit Virtual Hackfest, and LCA | Tux MachinesJul 04 08:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 08:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux...'Jul 04 08:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882210693868654592Jul 04 08:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 4/7/2017: Market Share Debate is Back, Libinput 1.8Jul 04 08:22
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Released https://t.co/MysZIgHShZ (techrights.org)Jul 04 08:22
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/7/2017: Market Share Debate is Back, Libinput 1.8 Released | TechrightsJul 04 08:22
MinceRoiaohm: do you also have an error tuna?Jul 04 08:24
oiaohmMinceR: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=245387 they are around does help that there is a application called tuna http://tuna.readthedocs.io/en/stable/overview.htmlJul 04 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuna error - FedoraForum.orgJul 04 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuna.readthedocs.io | Overview and features — Tuna 0.16.4 documentation [ http://ur1.ca/r627x ]Jul 04 08:29
MinceRlolJul 04 08:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882213117308145664Jul 04 08:31
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Microsoft Layoffs and EEE (Raspberry Pi)Jul 04 08:31
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/gs4n7T8RnH (www.tuxmachines.org) asJul 04 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Layoffs and EEE (Raspberry Pi) | Tux MachinesJul 04 08:31
TweetTuxMachines                 #microsoft collapses expect more of the latter. #entryismJul 04 08:31
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 08:31
oiaohmMinceR: the open source world and application naming.Jul 04 08:31
MinceRedgy as fuck >> http://pleated-jeans.com/2017/06/13/is-this-even-legal-22-pics/Jul 04 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is This Even Legal? (22 Pics) – Pleated-Jeans.comJul 04 08:45
XRevan86> http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/hitel-18.jpgJul 04 08:57
XRevan86what?Jul 04 08:57
XRevan86I only know 69 for "rule 69" that is, gender swap in fiction.Jul 04 08:57
XRevan86oh, that's 63Jul 04 08:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882215353857830914Jul 04 09:25
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Security: #SPAM and #AA BreachJul 04 09:25
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/uHFJwkOZFR (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: SPAM and AA Breach | Tux MachinesJul 04 09:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 09:25
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Conservatives @AngelaRayner Tories are enjoying no support...'Jul 04 09:25
XRevan86There's one thing new Electron Skype is better at than the older Qt one: https://s8.postimg.org/42lid0sf9/image.pngJul 04 09:30
XRevan86A really nice animated dancing penguin in the About dialogue.Jul 04 09:31
MinceRvery important stuffJul 04 09:34
XRevan86I failed to find anything else positive about it.Jul 04 09:35
XRevan86(Older) Skype is notably RAM hungry: 148M right now. Electron Skype eats twice as much.Jul 04 09:37
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives @AngelaRayner Tories are enjoying...'Jul 04 09:38
XRevan86Even the tray icon is worse.Jul 04 09:38
MinceRso, spyke is now a webapp?Jul 04 09:39
XRevan86MinceR: yepJul 04 09:39
XRevan86And they've replaced the desktop GNU/Linux client with that.Jul 04 09:40
XRevan86Some people say that the Windows 10's Skype is made in a similiar fashion.Jul 04 09:43
XRevan86Anyway, this looks bad.Jul 04 09:46
XRevan86Good thing I'm not an active user of Skype %).Jul 04 09:47
XRevan86I would be really upset otherwise.Jul 04 09:48
XRevan86It's also amusing how Microsoft made a good idea of Skype being able to work from any browser into something negative %).Jul 04 09:51
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MinceRgood thing i'm not a user of spyke at allJul 04 09:57
XRevan86MinceR: Indeed.Jul 04 10:02
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cubexyzspyke :)Jul 04 10:11
MinceRhttps://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGewRj7_460sv.mp4Jul 04 10:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/882256760710541313Jul 04 12:40
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux #KernelJul 04 12:40
TweetTuxMachines @AlejosAngel    4.12, Here's How to InstallJul 04 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/PM3wAcrtgp (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Lite Users Are the First to Get Linux Kernel 4.12, Here's How to Install | Tux MachinesJul 04 12:40
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 12:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Exactly on US Independence (from England/Westminster/Crown) Day......'Jul 04 12:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Exactly on US Independence (from...'Jul 04 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882279332894396416Jul 04 13:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NQ7CwYPHRJul 04 13:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 13:15
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 04 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882286728060571649Jul 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/F4WIan6pktJul 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #moto360  #htcJul 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #huaweiJul 04 13:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #samsung #uk #nokiaJul 04 13:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 04 13:19
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/F4WIan6pkt #android #linux #moto360 #htc...'Jul 04 13:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882288623789502465Jul 04 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Lead Developer of #Xperia Open Source Project (XOSP) WillJul 04 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Cease Development https://t.co/FTmaEFnEVQJul 04 13:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #XOSPJul 04 13:24
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lead Developer of Xperia Open Source Project (XOSP) Will Cease Development | Tux MachinesJul 04 13:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Lead Developer of #Xperia Open Source Project (XOSP)...'Jul 04 13:25
*TweetTuxMachines @michbirdy favourited 'Lead Developer of #Xperia Open Source Project (XOSP)...'Jul 04 13:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882289737956040704Jul 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Open source is the most important motor for innovationJul 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cIFhEfylRg (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 #freeswJul 04 13:28
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source is the most important motor for innovation | Tux MachinesJul 04 13:28
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source is the most important motor for...'Jul 04 13:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882291627779379200Jul 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of #GCC 6.4Jul 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/WufQsjK73i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnuJul 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #compiler #freeswJul 04 13:35
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:35
*TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'Release of #GCC 6.4 https://t.co/WufQsjK73i #gnu #compiler...'Jul 04 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of GCC 6.4 | Tux MachinesJul 04 13:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/882291683978874881Jul 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Release of #GCC 6.4Jul 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia     https://t.co/WufQsjK73i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnuJul 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines                 #compiler #freeswJul 04 13:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:45
schestowitzhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237Jul 04 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day · Issue #6237 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r3t3s ]Jul 04 13:51
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of #GCC 6.4 https://t.co/WufQsjK73i #gnu #compiler...'Jul 04 13:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882296452587958272Jul 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 GitHub's Advice to 'Ask What You Can Do for Open Source'Jul 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XTDJDyCpi1 (windowsitpro.com) #githubJul 04 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | GitHub's Advice to 'Ask What You Can Do for Open Source' | Development content from Windows IT ProJul 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 #freesw #programmingJul 04 13:55
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 13:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GitHub's Advice to 'Ask What You Can Do...'Jul 04 14:01
MinceRhttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2OmOhPZ0Cp0/WAyfaTr4esI/AAAAAAAAKEM/Eg7coGmgu5c9gSdjYdImKFsB0ihFV_PTgCLcB/s320/trump%2Bhilary.gifJul 04 14:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882300435557736448Jul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in Techrights https://t.co/6NQ7CwYPHRJul 04 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 14:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882301602643808256Jul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Release of #GCC 6.4Jul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/WufQsjK73i (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnuJul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 #compiler #freeswJul 04 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of GCC 6.4 | Tux MachinesJul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 14:14
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief favourited 'Release of #GCC 6.4 https://t.co/WufQsjK73i #gnu #compiler...'Jul 04 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882301664329420802Jul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Open source is the most important motor for innovationJul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      https://t.co/cIFhEfylRg (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines                 #freeswJul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882303393162825728Jul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines                 #RapidPhotoDownload 0.9Jul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/SS8JIJSrIY (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines                 #gtk #gnu #linuxJul 04 14:22
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source is the most important motor for innovation | Tux MachinesJul 04 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rapid Photo Download 0.9 | Tux MachinesJul 04 14:23
*TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RapidPhotoDownload 0.9 https://t.co/SS8JIJSrIY #freesw #gtk #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 14:23
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RapidPhotoDownload 0.9 https://t.co/SS8JIJSrIY #freesw #gtk #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 14:23
MinceRhttp://www.newsweek.com/ornithologists-react-time-randy-johnson-hit-bird-pitch-440184Jul 04 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Bird Experts Reflect on Randy Johnson Hitting a Bird With a Pitch [ http://ur1.ca/r64hd ]Jul 04 14:25
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RapidPhotoDownload 0.9 https://t.co/SS8JIJSrIY #freesw #gtk #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 14:35
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks "Moscow prioritized the maintenance of its nuclear...'Jul 04 14:38
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @WLTaskForce @wikileaks @MrEvanRoss @Snowden @JulianAssange Trump...'Jul 04 14:38
MinceRhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327637509116919820/331808764464463882/image.jpgJul 04 14:43
schestowitztwist while you're found?Jul 04 14:47
MinceR:>Jul 04 14:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @wikileaks @MrEvanRoss @Snowden @JulianAssange Trump threatened the...'Jul 04 14:53
schestowitzyou seem to fancy suicide/necro jokes..Jul 04 14:53
schestowitzinc. that cartoon series with the name of a toxinJul 04 14:54
schestowitzcyanide and somethingJul 04 14:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882311453767806978Jul 04 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                 What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling ReleasesJul 04 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/LplKkgupDO (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 14:55
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling Releases | Tux MachinesJul 04 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling Releases...'Jul 04 14:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling Releases...'Jul 04 15:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882317543242952706Jul 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME Development UpdatesJul 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/fyKwXfoVPk (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtkJul 04 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #freeswJul 04 15:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Development Updates | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882318218517512192Jul 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Games: #TheWitcher 3, #Galimulator, and #RocketLeagueJul 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/UuhpIRMr4t (www.tuxmachines.org) #gamesJul 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 #gaming #gnu #linuxJul 04 15:25
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: The Witcher 3, Galimulator, and Rocket League | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882319404758913025Jul 04 15:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: #libgcrypt20, #NSA, #CIA, US Independence DayJul 04 15:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Updates, #ReproducibleBuilds, and #Debian LTSJul 04 15:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pBJSVw1lA2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 15:29
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: libgcrypt20, NSA, CIA, US Independence Day Updates, Reproducible Builds, and Debian LTS | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:29
MinceRCyanide and HappinessJul 04 15:30
MinceRwell, you know, black humor is like foodJul 04 15:30
MinceRnot everyone gets itJul 04 15:30
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #libgcrypt20, #NSA, #CIA, US Independence Day Updates,...'Jul 04 15:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882320805048274944Jul 04 15:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling ReleasesJul 04 15:35
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/LplKkgupDO (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 15:35
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Linux Distributions Can Teach about Rolling Releases | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:35
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Controlled and selective leaks are like controlled...'Jul 04 15:35
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Controlled and selective leaks are...'Jul 04 15:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882322603867820033Jul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, #Linux 4.12,Jul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #Wayland, #Weston, and #NouveauJul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/AVjsjrsVHK (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #apparmorJul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, Linux 4.12, Wayland, Weston, and Nouveau | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, #Linux 4.12, #Wayland, #Weston,...'Jul 04 15:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882323106190295040Jul 04 15:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released forJul 04 15:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Those Who Seek 100% Freedom https://t.co/AKjNC804MKJul 04 15:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linuxJul 04 15:41
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Linux-Libre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882323345815064581Jul 04 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 #Canonical Invites #Ubuntu Users to Test the #LibreOfficeJul 04 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 5.3.4 Snap on Their OS https://t.co/21BJGnwgqBJul 04 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #odf #tdf #opendocument #freeswJul 04 15:45
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Invites Ubuntu Users to Test the LibreOffice 5.3.4 Snap on Their OS | Tux MachinesJul 04 15:45
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Invites #Ubuntu Users to Test the #LibreOffice...'Jul 04 15:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, #Linux 4.12, #Wayland, #Weston,...'Jul 04 15:51
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Ilt's al about you, isn't it? Your...'Jul 04 15:51
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/pK60TqLlzs'Jul 04 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/pK60TqLlzsJul 04 15:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/SRAcd47Y6h'Jul 04 15:53
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released for Those...'Jul 04 15:54
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released for Those...'Jul 04 15:55
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Invites #Ubuntu Users to Test the #LibreOffice...'Jul 04 15:55
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released for Those...'Jul 04 15:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump How about solar? You don't care because...'Jul 04 15:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Got gas? https://t.co/x74VOWokfO'Jul 04 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Got gas? https://t.co/x74VOWokfOJul 04 15:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Got gas? https://t.co/x74VOWokfO'Jul 04 15:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Exporting your oil swamp to other countries,...'Jul 04 16:00
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump The country where you have business, sell...'Jul 04 16:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882328529895137280Jul 04 16:03
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, #Linux 4.12,Jul 04 16:04
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    #Wayland, #Weston, and #NouveauJul 04 16:04
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/AVjsjrsVHK (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphicsJul 04 16:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #apparmorJul 04 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/Graphics: Linux 4.13 Features, Linux 4.12, Wayland, Weston, and Nouveau | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882329156767318017Jul 04 16:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Games: #TheWitcher 3, #Galimulator, and #RocketLeagueJul 04 16:05
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/UuhpIRMr4t (www.tuxmachines.org) #gamesJul 04 16:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #gaming #gnu #linuxJul 04 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: The Witcher 3, Galimulator, and Rocket League | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882329537132077057Jul 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    GNOME Development UpdatesJul 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/fyKwXfoVPk (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtkJul 04 16:08
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #freeswJul 04 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Development Updates | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882330141506097153Jul 04 16:15
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Security: #libgcrypt20, #NSA, #CIA, US Independence DayJul 04 16:15
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Updates, #ReproducibleBuilds, and #Debian LTSJul 04 16:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/pBJSVw1lA2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 16:15
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: libgcrypt20, NSA, CIA, US Independence Day Updates, Reproducible Builds, and Debian LTS | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:15
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #TheWitcher 3, #Galimulator, and #RocketLeague https://t.co/UuhpIRMr4t...'Jul 04 16:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882334023359582210Jul 04 16:37
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    GNOME Development UpdatesJul 04 16:37
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz     https://t.co/fyKwXfoVPk (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtkJul 04 16:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #freeswJul 04 16:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 16:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882337491130494977Jul 04 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #Proxmox VE 5.0 releasedJul 04 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/GWcrG71V7h (www.tuxmachines.org) #debianJul 04 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 5.0 released | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 16:39
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 16:39
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Proxmox VE 5.0 released https://t.co/GWcrG71V7h #debian #gnu...'Jul 04 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882338385817473024Jul 04 16:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap for LiteJul 04 16:41
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/GgWkFXgukL (www.tuxmachines.org) #russiaJul 04 16:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap for Lite | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:41
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 16:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882338904606744576Jul 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh, PricedJul 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 from €609Jul 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/CGiKR2t2LT (www.tuxmachines.org) #vant #gnuJul 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #spainJul 04 16:43
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh, Priced from €609 | Tux MachinesJul 04 16:43
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap...'Jul 04 16:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap...'Jul 04 16:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Proxmox VE 5.0 released https://t.co/GWcrG71V7h #debian #gnu...'Jul 04 16:47
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh,...'Jul 04 16:48
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap...'Jul 04 16:50
*TweetTuxMachines @MrIvanJohnson favourited 'Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh,...'Jul 04 16:53
*TweetTuxMachines @AircraftBooks favourited 'Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh,...'Jul 04 16:53
*TweetTuxMachines @AircraftBooks retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh,...'Jul 04 16:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks They even glorify crimes against humanity and...'Jul 04 16:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks They even glorify crimes against...'Jul 04 16:58
*TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu favourited 'Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh,...'Jul 04 16:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/882343004605997058Jul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Ubuntu Laptops from VANT Get Kaby Lake Refresh, PricedJul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu    from €609Jul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/CGiKR2t2LT (www.tuxmachines.org) #vant #gnuJul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #spainJul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 17:00
*TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu favourited '#ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap...'Jul 04 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/882343462032609280Jul 04 17:02
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #ZorinOS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap for LiteJul 04 17:02
TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu     https://t.co/GgWkFXgukL (www.tuxmachines.org) #russiaJul 04 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Is Here: One Giant Leap for Lite | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:02
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 17:02
*TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu favourited '#Proxmox VE 5.0 released https://t.co/GWcrG71V7h #debian #gnu...'Jul 04 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE 5.0 released | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/882343769357635584Jul 04 17:04
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Proxmox VE 5.0 releasedJul 04 17:04
TweetTuxMachines @razvansandu     https://t.co/GWcrG71V7h (www.tuxmachines.org) #debianJul 04 17:04
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882344278713917444Jul 04 17:06
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosJul 04 17:06
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/1atgqFn4vH (www.tuxmachines.org) #unixJul 04 17:06
TweetTuxMachines                 #howto #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:06
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/1atgqFn4vH #unix #howto #gnu #linux...'Jul 04 17:14
*TweetTuxMachines @oomosound favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/F4WIan6pkt #android #linux #moto360 #htc...'Jul 04 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:14
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Canonical Invites #Ubuntu Users to Test the #LibreOffice...'Jul 04 17:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released for Those...'Jul 04 17:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882348697182449666Jul 04 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #Kube 0.3.1 and #KDav2 0.1.0 Released by ChristianJul 04 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 MollekopfJul 04 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/tAdXu9DHSl (www.tuxmachines.org) #kdeJul 04 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #freesw #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kube 0.3.1 and KDav2 0.1.0 Released by Christian Mollekopf | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 17:26
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kube 0.3.1 and #KDav2 0.1.0 Released by Christian...'Jul 04 17:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882352709453709318Jul 04 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux DistroJul 04 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/PClebFBjk4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 #germany #xubuntu #tuxedo #deJul 04 17:37
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro | Tux MachinesJul 04 17:38
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:39
MinceRhttps://boingboing.net/2017/06/23/do-not-come-to-the-cow.htmlJul 04 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Robot wisdom from a deep learning system trained on ancient proverbs / Boing Boing [ http://ur1.ca/r65pk ]Jul 04 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:46
XRevan86> A good excuse is as good as a restJul 04 17:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:47
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @Jeremy_Hunt She cares deeply... about her...'Jul 04 17:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @Jeremy_Hunt She cares deeply......'Jul 04 17:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/882356036602126336Jul 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux DistroJul 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines @glynmoody       https://t.co/PClebFBjk4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines                 #germany #xubuntu #tuxedo #deJul 04 17:51
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 17:51
*TweetTuxMachines @enriquereyes favourited 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:51
*TweetTuxMachines @enriquereyes retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:51
*TweetTuxMachines @enriquereyes retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:52
*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:54
*TweetTuxMachines @BerndPorr favourited 'German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro ...'Jul 04 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange One of these is two small to...'Jul 04 17:57
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange One of these is two...'Jul 04 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882358244550815744Jul 04 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #RISCV in Linux Kernel 4.13, #Collabora in #Linux #KernelJul 04 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 4.12Jul 04 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/q5ow4pwq4s (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V in Linux Kernel 4.13, Collabora in Linux Kernel 4.12 | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:02
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:02
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RISCV in Linux Kernel 4.13, #Collabora in #Linux...'Jul 04 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/FrenchRedFrog/status/882359537247891457Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux DistroJul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines @FrenchRedFrog   https://t.co/PClebFBjk4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines                 #germany #xubuntu #tuxedo #deJul 04 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German Laptop Company Announces Own Linux Distro | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:08
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/FbDPEZH.gifJul 04 18:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882360572364419079Jul 04 18:23
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #RISCV in Linux Kernel 4.13, #Collabora in #Linux #KernelJul 04 18:23
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    4.12Jul 04 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/q5ow4pwq4s (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882364346495578112Jul 04 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Software: #Elvish, Stream #Twitch in #GNOME, #BitcoinJul 04 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Wallets, #fwupd, and #DockerJul 04 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/3Xe0C6tVn6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 18:24
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:24
*TweetTuxMachines @TwitchRTCBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Elvish, Stream #Twitch in #GNOME, #Bitcoin Desktop...'Jul 04 18:24
*TweetTuxMachines @TwitchRTCBot favourited 'Software: #Elvish, Stream #Twitch in #GNOME, #Bitcoin Desktop...'Jul 04 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Elvish, Stream Twitch in GNOME, Bitcoin Desktop Wallets, fwupd, and Docker | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882364577849253888Jul 04 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #Microsoft Can't Keep Online, Busy Digesting #GNU/#LinuxJul 04 18:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/LsM49gpkKG (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Can't Keep Online, Busy Digesting GNU/Linux | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:26
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Microsoft Can't Keep Online, Busy Digesting #GNU/#Linux https://t.co/LsM49gpkKG'Jul 04 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882365686210842624Jul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other DevicesJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/4y386QrJWm (www.tuxmachines.org) #linuxJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #tizenOS #samsung #bitraf #4kboardJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other Devices | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882366702096449536Jul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, andJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #Go #ConcurrencyJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vwLkpZoHoH (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines                 #golangJul 04 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and Go Concurrency | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:33
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:33
*TweetTuxMachines @CreatorOfCode retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, and #Go #Concurrency...'Jul 04 18:34
*TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, and #Go #Concurrency...'Jul 04 18:36
*TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited '#Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, and #Go #Concurrency...'Jul 04 18:38
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Elvish, Stream #Twitch in #GNOME, #Bitcoin Desktop...'Jul 04 18:40
*TweetTuxMachines @IoTimelab retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other Devices https://t.co/4y386QrJWm...'Jul 04 18:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882368531081428993Jul 04 18:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Microsoft Can't Keep Online, Busy Digesting #GNU/#LinuxJul 04 18:41
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/LsM49gpkKG (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 04 18:41
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:41
*TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited '#Microsoft Can't Keep Online, Busy Digesting #GNU/#Linux https://t.co/LsM49gpkKG'Jul 04 18:42
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other Devices https://t.co/4y386QrJWm...'Jul 04 18:44
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/WqgymJul 04 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never Forget - Album on ImgurJul 04 18:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882369451840212992Jul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, andJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    #Go #ConcurrencyJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vwLkpZoHoH (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 #golangJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines Jul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/882370194789761025Jul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other DevicesJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33        https://t.co/4y386QrJWm (www.tuxmachines.org) #linuxJul 04 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other Devices | Tux MachinesJul 04 18:47
TweetTuxMachines                 #tizenOS #samsung #bitraf #4kboardJul 04 18:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/programminbuddy/status/882370360846553089Jul 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, andJul 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines @programminbuddy  #Go #ConcurrencyJul 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vwLkpZoHoH (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and Go Concurrency | Tux MachinesJul 04 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 #golangJul 04 19:16
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TweetTuxMachines@GoTopNws        https://twitter.com/GoTopNws/status/882377640585428993Jul 04 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and GoJul 04 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 ... https://t.co/ERil96NpGa (gettopical.com) viaJul 04 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gettopical.com | Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and Go ConcurrencyJul 04 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines https://t.co/iRaceYBmgCJul 04 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GoTopNws: Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and Go ... https://t.co/ERil96NpGa via @tuxmachines https://t.co/iRaceYBmgCJul 04 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882397453538009091Jul 04 20:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, andJul 04 20:35
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      #Go #ConcurrencyJul 04 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882397507203899392Jul 04 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      Desktop Wallets, #fwupd, and #DockerJul 04 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882397525608628224Jul 04 20:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Tizen, So-called 'IoT', and Other DevicesJul 04 20:51
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/4y386QrJWm (www.tuxmachines.org) #linuxJul 04 20:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @botgopher retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, and #Go #Concurrency...'Jul 04 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/ErrorTeamWeb/status/882401838867283968Jul 04 20:59
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Programming: #GitHub, #Netfilter, Job Interviews, andJul 04 20:59
TweetTuxMachines @ErrorTeamWeb   #Go #ConcurrencyJul 04 20:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/vwLkpZoHoH (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswJul 04 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: GitHub, Netfilter, Job Interviews, and Go Concurrency | Tux MachinesJul 04 20:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/882403499543277568Jul 04 21:26
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #GNU #LinuxLibre 4.12 Kernel Officially Released forJul 04 21:26
TweetTuxMachines @AlejosAngel    Those Who Seek 100% Freedom https://t.co/AKjNC804MKJul 04 21:26
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cubexyz"when the switch from windows 2000 to XP happened a lot of HP printerr owners were stuck with printers without a working driver"Jul 04 21:52
cubexyzthen the same thing happened again with win10Jul 04 21:52
cubexyzanother example...Jul 04 21:54
cubexyzin the upgrade from win95 to win2k the HP 5200c scanner driver wouldn't workJul 04 21:55
cubexyzno more using fopen to talk to the scannerJul 04 22:17
cubexyznow one usually must use sane_openJul 04 22:18
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cubexyzscanimage links to a bunch of thingsJul 04 22:20
cubexyzi.e. libtiff, libieee1284, libusb, libexif, libltdl, etcJul 04 22:21
cubexyzand libsane of courseJul 04 22:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Security: #Security Updates, #WikiLeaks, #LetsEncrypt, #SystemD https://t.co/lWN08coyaN...'Jul 04 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, WikiLeaks, Let's Encrypt, SystemD | Tux MachinesJul 04 22:29
cubexyzearlier research has shown that devices such as the HP Photosmart 3210 all-in-one had scanning and printing support, but not faxJul 04 22:58
cubexyzI was able to write a simple scanning program for the HP 5200CJul 04 23:00
cubexyzaccording to the firmware date code, it is from late 1998 eraJul 04 23:00
cubexyzok, anyways I've updated my notes on the subject here:Jul 04 23:05
cubexyzhttp://www.cubeman.org/hp.txtJul 04 23:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/882426151083270144Jul 04 23:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Security: #Security Updates, #WikiLeaks, #LetsEncrypt,Jul 04 23:08
TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup  #SystemDJul 04 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/lWN08coyaN (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 04 23:08
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cubexyz1998 was an interesting timeJul 04 23:11
cubexyzEric Raymond releases the Halloween documents in 1998Jul 04 23:12
cubexyzhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/Jul 04 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | Halloween Document 8Jul 04 23:13
cubexyznowadays we have to guard against "secret chips"Jul 04 23:13
oiaohmcubexyz: issue of secret chips is not that recent.Jul 04 23:27
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMA_attack  firmware in times like firewire you see exploits back in 2004.Jul 04 23:29
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cubexyzsecret chips is a blanket termJul 05 00:53
cubexyzit can mean utterly secret baked-in stuff we have no idea aboutJul 05 00:54
cubexyzor it could just be a chip with no data sheetJul 05 00:54
cubexyzso we know it's there, but we just don't know exactly how it worksJul 05 00:54
cubexyzthere's the 32-bit argonaut RISC core (ARC), also called the intel management engineJul 05 00:57
cubexyzand guess what? the ARC runs even when your computer is suspendedJul 05 00:58
DaemonFCThe Intel Management Engine is at the option of the OEM.Jul 05 01:11
DaemonFCThat's how Purism disables it.Jul 05 01:11
cubexyzI'd much rather not have intel me at allJul 05 01:12
MinceR05 035241 < cubexyz> "when the switch from windows 2000 to XP happened a lot of HP printerr owners were stuck with printers without a working driver"Jul 05 01:19
MinceRah yes, the legendary winblows hardware supportJul 05 01:19
MinceRlegendary as in people keep talking about it, but it doesn't existJul 05 01:19
cubexyzpre-2006 motherboards should be OK with regards to intel meJul 05 01:22
cubexyzI'm old the intel me started in june 2006Jul 05 01:22
cubexyzs/old/told/Jul 05 01:22
cubexyzso the ME is present on all intel desktops, laptops and servers since 2006Jul 05 01:23
cubexyzbut then purism says some intel CPUs do not have vPro or AMTJul 05 01:25
MinceRyou can have ME without vPro or AMT being enabled in itJul 05 01:26
cubexyzsee, if someone said "just buy this one with intel me" then we wouldn't need to go through purism's neutralization processJul 05 01:27
cubexyzthe trouble is, I'm not sure there is a modern motherboard without intel meJul 05 01:28
cubexyz"just buy this one _without_ intel me"Jul 05 01:28
cubexyzhttps://puri.sm/learn/intel-me/Jul 05 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Intel’s Management Engine – PurismJul 05 01:31
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oiaohmcubexyz: ME first from is a controller on the intel network card before 2006Jul 05 01:36
cubexyzintel 965 express chipset family I think it wasJul 05 01:44
cubexyzso before that, I don't know Jul 05 01:45
cubexyzI know TPMs appeared in the early 2000'sJul 05 01:47
oiaohmThe first forms are like the recent broadcom wifi issue on arm devices.  x86 did not have DMA protection back then either.Jul 05 01:58
oiaohmSo a rouge network card controller could access system memory where ever.Jul 05 01:59
oiaohmcubexyz: I945 the ME was in the Ethernet controller on the motherboard.  And before in the ethernet controller in addon card.Jul 05 02:01
oiaohmcubexyz: I remember from dealing with a intel ethernet controller that would not do NetBEUI  and another brand that would not do tcp/ip unless netbeui was working in year 2000 this was controller hell.Jul 05 02:02
oiaohmsnooping back then found flaws and a half.Jul 05 02:03
MinceRi can understand not wanting to do NetBEUIJul 05 02:05
MinceRi wouldn't want to eitherJul 05 02:05
*TweetTuxMachines @burningrosebush favourited '#LinuxLite Users Are the First to Get #Linux...'Jul 05 02:06
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/93DTQJul 05 02:07
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oiaohmMinceR: year 2000 some of your network cards were strange.Jul 05 02:17
oiaohmMinceR: I mostly remember it due to doing a y2k update on network POS system at the time.Jul 05 02:17
oiaohmMinceR: do not this was the network card filtering out what ever the OS sent to it.Jul 05 02:18
oiaohmMinceR: not/noteJul 05 02:18
MinceRhardware firewall!Jul 05 02:19
oiaohmMinceR: yepJul 05 02:21
oiaohmMinceR: also not just a hardware firewall the one needing netbeui packets from the network would magically send TCP/IP even it it never sent any NetBEUI packets itself.Jul 05 02:22
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/WbrORJul 05 02:22
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MinceRmaybe they thought they were fixing a butJul 05 02:22
MinceRs/t$/g/Jul 05 02:22
oiaohmMinceR: so those network cards were really early examples of remote control of computer by network card.Jul 05 02:23
oiaohmNot very well done compared to AMT attempt these days.Jul 05 02:23
oiaohmStill cost me a day working out why 4 computer would fail when 1 computer was turned off.Jul 05 02:24
oiaohmThe 1 computer was putting out the netbeui noise those 4 network cards required to behave.Jul 05 02:25
oiaohmOf course all the trouble network cards were replaced.Jul 05 02:26
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/r/funny/yicEjfUJul 05 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-what an appropriate name for a cemetery... - ImgurJul 05 02:32
oiaohmMinceR: really it funny how many roads in Australia are Missing link rdJul 05 02:41
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schestowitz[20:30] <MinceR> well, you know, black humor is like foodJul 05 03:50
schestowitz[20:30] <MinceR> not everyone gets itJul 05 03:50
schestowitzOr like a child with cancerJul 05 03:50
schestowitzit never grows oldJul 05 03:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882512988963516417Jul 05 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 #LinuxMint 18.2 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot TourJul 05 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/v4cMSRPq36 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 04:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesJul 05 04:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882513335035600896Jul 05 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 #Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches EndJul 05 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 of Life on July 20, 2017 https://t.co/8Wg4FPKmm8Jul 05 04:16
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 04:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxMint 18.2 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour https://t.co/v4cMSRPq36 #gnu...'Jul 05 04:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882513784719495169Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux #Kernel 4.12 is Big, Bigger Than You Thought Big,Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Says Greg Kroah-Hartman https://t.co/qpvCWEYdpbJul 05 04:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.12 is Big, Bigger Than You Thought Big, Says Greg Kroah-Hartman | Tux MachinesJul 05 04:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches End...'Jul 05 04:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/882521225104379908Jul 05 05:42
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Linux #Kernel 4.12 is Big, Bigger Than You Thought Big,Jul 05 05:42
TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33       Says Greg Kroah-Hartman https://t.co/qpvCWEYdpbJul 05 05:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @Jeremy_Hunt #tories are strong and stable....'Jul 05 05:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @David_Cameron https://t.co/mJl6uAUNKs'Jul 05 06:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882546008839815170Jul 05 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Why #Microsoft (And Even Apple) Are Threatened By GoogleJul 05 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #Chromebooks Popularity https://t.co/527bt1rES6Jul 05 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Microsoft (And Even Apple) Are Threatened By Google Chromebooks’ Popularity | Tux MachinesJul 05 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 06:26
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*TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Why #Microsoft (And Even Apple) Are Threatened By...'Jul 05 06:26
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why #Microsoft (And Even Apple) Are Threatened By...'Jul 05 06:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882546588492713984Jul 05 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 50+ Best Lightweight Linux Distros for 2017Jul 05 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Y5VSPiNI6A (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 50+ Best Lightweight Linux Distros for 2017 | Tux MachinesJul 05 06:28
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '50+ Best Lightweight Linux Distros for 2017 https://t.co/Y5VSPiNI6A...'Jul 05 06:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882549644705845249Jul 05 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/KrXyzY6KFMJul 05 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 05 06:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #baiduJul 05 06:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KrXyzY6KFM #android #linux #google #baidu'Jul 05 06:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KrXyzY6KFM #android #linux #google #baidu'Jul 05 06:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882559641468764160Jul 05 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers: #Baidu, MC #Frontalot, #POSSE, andJul 05 07:20
TweetTuxMachines                 #Firefox AdsJul 05 07:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882559870674849792Jul 05 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: Cyberweapons, #Kaspersky, and #MicrosoftJul 05 07:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Connected #Linux FUD https://t.co/RVcT8eCLejJul 05 07:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882561190987268096Jul 05 07:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Size of #Linux 4.12 and #Btrfs In Linux 4.13Jul 05 07:28
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/YbcMKiTcbF (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 05 07:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Size of Linux 4.12 and Btrfs In Linux 4.13 | Tux MachinesJul 05 07:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882561769935425537Jul 05 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Debian/Ubuntu: End of Life, Proxmox, #Ubuntu Budgie 17.10Jul 05 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Wallpapers, #LinuxMint 18.2 Upgrade, and #ZorinOS ReleaseJul 05 07:29
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Linux #Kernel 4.12 is Big, Bigger Than You...'Jul 05 07:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches End...'Jul 05 07:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882562009799155712Jul 05 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                 today's #tuxmachines  leftovers and howtosJul 05 07:31
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/4dSqyheMgq (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers and howtos | Tux MachinesJul 05 07:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches End...'Jul 05 07:31
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Linux #Kernel 4.12 is Big, Bigger Than You...'Jul 05 07:32
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers and howtos https://t.co/4dSqyheMgq...'Jul 05 07:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882563063924260864Jul 05 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 5/7/2017: Size of Linux Kernel 4.12, Release ofJul 05 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Kube 0.3.1, GCC 6.4 https://t.co/JLvwN8zLu1Jul 05 07:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 05 07:38
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/7/2017: Size of Linux Kernel 4.12, Release of Kube 0.3.1, GCC 6.4 | TechrightsJul 05 07:38
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian/Ubuntu: End of Life, Proxmox, #Ubuntu Budgie 17.10...'Jul 05 07:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Size of #Linux 4.12 and #Btrfs In Linux...'Jul 05 07:45
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: Cyberweapons, #Kaspersky, and #Microsoft Connected #Linux FUD...'Jul 05 07:47
schestowitzMinceR: I saw this one beforeJul 05 07:47
schestowitzmaybe last yearJul 05 07:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Size of #Linux 4.12 and #Btrfs In Linux...'Jul 05 07:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882567004812693505Jul 05 08:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    OSS Leftovers: #Baidu, MC #Frontalot, #POSSE, andJul 05 08:06
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    #Firefox AdsJul 05 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/ReW62MH8Cd (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers: Baidu, MC Frontalot, POSSE, and Firefox Ads | Tux MachinesJul 05 08:06
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/X2JgEzU.jpgJul 05 08:06
MinceRhttps://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/07/indian-isp-wont-let-users-use-128-bit-256-bit-encryption/Jul 05 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | This Indian ISP won't let its users use 128 bit or 256 bit encryption | Privacy Online NewsJul 05 08:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/scas/status/882573496143970304Jul 05 08:19
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches EndJul 05 08:19
TweetTuxMachines @scas           of Life on July 20, 2017 https://t.co/8Wg4FPKmm8Jul 05 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches End of Life on July 20, 2017 | Tux MachinesJul 05 08:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @Bazeelzebub favourited 'Software: #Elvish, Stream #Twitch in #GNOME, #Bitcoin Desktop...'Jul 05 08:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/882578677472645121Jul 05 09:47
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) Operating System Reaches EndJul 05 09:47
TweetTuxMachines @AlejosAngel    of Life on July 20, 2017 https://t.co/8Wg4FPKmm8Jul 05 09:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 09:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882638865227558916Jul 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 5/7/2017: Size of Linux Kernel 4.12, Release ofJul 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Kube 0.3.1, GCC 6.4 https://t.co/JLvwN8zLu1Jul 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Jul 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/7/2017: Size of Linux Kernel 4.12, Release of Kube 0.3.1, GCC 6.4 | TechrightsJul 05 12:53
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may @Jeremy_Hunt May won't pay attention, she'll...'Jul 05 13:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882654802982948865Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #OryxLinux 0.2.0 Released https://t.co/h3YrX7vFIdJul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #Jul 05 13:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oryx Linux 0.2.0 Released | Tux MachinesJul 05 13:39
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OryxLinux 0.2.0 Released https://t.co/h3YrX7vFId #gnu #linux #'Jul 05 13:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882655704011681797Jul 05 13:44
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable Snap Backend forJul 05 13:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Installing #SnapsJul 05 13:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PYOS1UUTHJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 13:44
TweetTuxMachines                 #kde #plasma #gnu #linuxJul 05 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable Snap Backend for Installing Snaps | Tux MachinesJul 05 13:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Tell the #tories to bring their...'Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882656930350673926Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 #vista10 WSL vs. #VirtualBox #Ubuntu Performance On AnJul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Core i9 7900X https://t.co/iO9WG1E7EDJul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 13:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable...'Jul 05 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 WSL vs. VirtualBox Ubuntu Performance On An Intel Core i9 7900X | Tux MachinesJul 05 13:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OryxLinux 0.2.0 Released https://t.co/h3YrX7vFId #gnu #linux #'Jul 05 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882657663447949313Jul 05 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Open-spec, RPi-style SBC features new Rockchip RK3328Jul 05 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/j5tV5HLADr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #pine64 #sopine #rock64 #rockchipJul 05 13:50
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-spec, RPi-style SBC features new Rockchip RK3328 | Tux MachinesJul 05 13:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#vista10 WSL vs. #VirtualBox #Ubuntu Performance On An...'Jul 05 13:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882658050242465792Jul 05 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/qlMrBuWtNnJul 05 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 05 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #abidu #android #linux #asusJul 05 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 #google #zenwatch #eu #antitrustJul 05 13:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open-spec, RPi-style SBC features new Rockchip RK3328 https://t.co/j5tV5HLADr...'Jul 05 13:52
*TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/qlMrBuWtNn #abidu #android #linux #asus #google...'Jul 05 13:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/qlMrBuWtNn #abidu #android #linux #asus #google...'Jul 05 13:56
*TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/qlMrBuWtNn #abidu #android #linux #asus #google...'Jul 05 14:07
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Harryslaststand One of my favourite accounts in...'Jul 05 14:07
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Harryslaststand One of my favourite...'Jul 05 14:09
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/pCQBVjl.jpgJul 05 14:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882662672180891648Jul 05 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 New Features Merged Into #Linux 4.13Jul 05 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/7itP4iLKh0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 05 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #phoronixJul 05 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Features Merged Into Linux 4.13 | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:12
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Features Merged Into #Linux 4.13 https://t.co/7itP4iLKh0...'Jul 05 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882664029470281728Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Android Leftovers https://t.co/qlMrBuWtNnJul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      (www.tuxmachines.org) #abidu #android #linux #asusJul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 #google #zenwatch #eu #antitrustJul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882665503017373696Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Open-spec, RPi-style SBC features new Rockchip RK3328Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      https://t.co/j5tV5HLADr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linux #pine64 #sopine #rock64 #rockchipJul 05 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-spec, RPi-style SBC features new Rockchip RK3328 | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882665515336036352Jul 05 14:21
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #OryxLinux 0.2.0 Released https://t.co/h3YrX7vFIdJul 05 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oryx Linux 0.2.0 Released | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:21
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #Jul 05 14:21
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882665708727013381Jul 05 14:22
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    New Features Merged Into #Linux 4.13Jul 05 14:22
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/7itP4iLKh0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 05 14:22
TweetTuxMachines                 #phoronixJul 05 14:22
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882666066874433536Jul 05 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 #RedHat Financial NewsJul 05 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/lAF1WcQfci (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 14:24
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Financial News https://t.co/lAF1WcQfci...'Jul 05 14:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Financial News https://t.co/lAF1WcQfci...'Jul 05 14:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882667839479578624Jul 05 14:32
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #vista10 WSL vs. #VirtualBox #Ubuntu Performance On AnJul 05 14:32
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      Intel Core i9 7900X https://t.co/iO9WG1E7EDJul 05 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 05 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 WSL vs. VirtualBox Ubuntu Performance On An Intel Core i9 7900X | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:32
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 14:32
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjJM6yYS8Jul 05 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Castro hates the internet, so Cubans created their own - YouTubeJul 05 14:37
XRevan86MinceR: And of course it begins with a Lada/Zhiguli driving through :)Jul 05 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/882668431618736128Jul 05 14:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable Snap Backend forJul 05 14:41
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      Installing #SnapsJul 05 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/PYOS1UUTHJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 14:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #kde #plasma #gnu #linuxJul 05 14:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable Snap Backend for Installing Snaps | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:41
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTno8D-b2EJul 05 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is Cuba's Netflix, Hulu, and Spotify – all without the internet - YouTubeJul 05 14:43
*TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Debian LTS Development Activities https://t.co/O3RznDECJP #gnu #linux...'Jul 05 14:50
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Fake news from fake...'Jul 05 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian LTS Development Activities | Tux MachinesJul 05 14:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Fake news from fake news experts....'Jul 05 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks For those who missed it, John #podesta...'Jul 05 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks For those who missed it,...'Jul 05 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Here it is with highlights...'Jul 05 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Here it is with highlights https://t.co/ct4FEpLLWA "making...'Jul 05 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to www.wikileaks.org:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082#efmAGSAH-https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082#efmAGSAH- )Jul 05 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Devices: #UbuntuCore, #Yocto, #Microsoft, and #Tizen https://t.co/aaDbPU0LNm...'Jul 05 15:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So it's the Fox of the pseudo-left,...'Jul 05 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Ubuntu Core, Yocto, Microsoft, and Tizen | Tux MachinesJul 05 15:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks So it's the Fox of...'Jul 05 15:06
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@WLTaskForce @wikileaks @HashtagGriswold Like father, like son https://t.co/ueFOwWf24G'Jul 05 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@realDonaldTrump: The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! They will be caught!Jul 05 15:06
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/ESqdYF9Jul 05 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetJul 05 15:06
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @WLTaskForce @wikileaks @HashtagGriswold Like father, like...'Jul 05 15:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable...'Jul 05 15:16
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/Qz7usJul 05 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Art. - Album on ImgurJul 05 15:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop to Have a Stable...'Jul 05 15:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882687464309215233Jul 05 15:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Free Software for #Emoji and for Proprietary MicrosoftJul 05 15:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (or Connected to It) https://t.co/m7FT4lfAxpJul 05 15:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #hiri #sambaJul 05 15:49
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software for Emoji and for Proprietary Microsoft (or Connected to It) | Tux MachinesJul 05 15:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882687859244888064Jul 05 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 #LLVM 4.0.1 and #SPARC in #GCC https://t.co/ExYvkOITXFJul 05 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 15:52
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM 4.0.1 and SPARC in GCC | Tux MachinesJul 05 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks CNN will get away with it because...'Jul 05 15:53
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks CNN will get away with...'Jul 05 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882689107436212227Jul 05 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/lODmynSYb9Jul 05 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linuxJul 05 15:55
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 05 15:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882689391092781056Jul 05 16:00
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Free Software for #Emoji and for Proprietary MicrosoftJul 05 16:00
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (or Connected to It) https://t.co/m7FT4lfAxpJul 05 16:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #hiri #sambaJul 05 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882690647622397958Jul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and Graphics: New Stable Kernels, #Linux 4.12 inJul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Hindsight, #RadeonSI and #AMD https://t.co/iTAJhh6nM4Jul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882691271281737728Jul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Ubuntu  https://t.co/beKHHg93fEJul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJul 05 16:03
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and Graphics: New Stable Kernels, Linux 4.12 in Hindsight, RadeonSI and AMD | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:03
DaemonFCMinix 3 system requirements are getting up there. Recommends a Pentium 4 and 1 GB of RAM.Jul 05 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882691425871245312Jul 05 16:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #LLVM 4.0.1 and #SPARC in #GCC https://t.co/ExYvkOITXFJul 05 16:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 16:05
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM 4.0.1 and SPARC in GCC | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:06
XRevan86DaemonFC: That's a lot for a kernel and coreutilsJul 05 16:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882692016848732160Jul 05 16:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    today's howtos https://t.co/lODmynSYb9Jul 05 16:08
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linuxJul 05 16:08
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882692628583780353Jul 05 16:10
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: Updates, Bounties, #SS7 AttacksJul 05 16:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/U4SDMLaaDf (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 16:10
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Updates, Bounties, SS7 Attacks | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882693096307380224Jul 05 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora: New #Fedora25 Build, #Fedora26 WorkstationJul 05 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Wallpapers https://t.co/ZD7aqSIF4R (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 16:13
TweetTuxMachines                 #fedora #redhat #f25 #f26 #gnu #linuxJul 05 16:13
TweetTuxMachines Jul 05 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New Fedora 25 Build, Fedora 26 Workstation Wallpapers | Tux MachinesJul 05 16:13
MinceRhttp://www.sandraandwoo.com/comics/2017-07-03-0900-safe-sex.pngJul 05 16:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882693987605393408Jul 05 16:25
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSS in the News and #Openwashing in FOSSJul 05 16:25
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Linux and Graphics: New Stable Kernels, #Linux 4.12 inJul 05 16:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange #StreisandEffect a la @mmasnick'Jul 05 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Leftovers: Ubuntu  https://t.co/beKHHg93fEJul 05 16:37
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/B52iQhN.pngJul 05 17:20
DaemonFCOh dear.Jul 05 17:22
MinceR:)Jul 05 17:23
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/luQNgHyJul 05 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetJul 05 17:33
DaemonFCRyan FarmerJul 05 17:58
DaemonFCJust now · Chicago · Jul 05 17:58
DaemonFCTrump's EPA is creating a unit that denies climate change to troll real scientists. Your tax dollars at work.Jul 05 17:58
DaemonFChttps://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/epa-intends-to-form-red-team-to-debate-climate-science/Jul 05 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | EPA intends to form “red team” to debate climate science | Ars TechnicaJul 05 17:59
MinceRdump is really committed to and willing to spend a lot of taxpayer money on ensuring that humans can not survive on earthJul 05 18:03
MinceRand i guess he's in the right, as the majority of this stupid species seems to agree nowJul 05 18:03
MinceRif this is the means of extinction we choose, then so be itJul 05 18:03
MinceRmaybe intelligence will evolve next timeJul 05 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882721896235761665Jul 05 18:04
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Fedora: New #Fedora25 Build, #Fedora26 WorkstationJul 05 18:04
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Wallpapers https://t.co/ZD7aqSIF4R (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 05 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/882721918251671556Jul 05 18:36
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DaemonFChttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-7900x-wsl&num=1Jul 05 19:12
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DaemonFCThe performance of the Windows Subsystem for Linux isn't great compared to Linux on the same hardware.Jul 05 19:13
DaemonFCEspecially in the filesystem tests.Jul 05 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Setting Up #AVRGCC toolchain and #avrdude To Program AnJul 05 20:33
TweetTuxMachines                 AVR Development Board In #UBUNTU https://t.co/FuWMT96oJSJul 05 20:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882759241051893760Jul 05 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 #System76 Launches Their Own Linux Distribution CalledJul 05 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 #PopOS https://t.co/sYZzYr8c7T (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnuJul 05 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882760122614898688Jul 05 20:39
TweetTuxMachines                 #Calamares Devs Warn of Weaker Password Salt, Urge UsersJul 05 20:39
TweetTuxMachines                 to Reset Their Password https://t.co/xi5unEIAphJul 05 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882760805573439489Jul 05 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 #Canonical Releases New #Snapd Snappy Daemon Update withJul 05 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 New Interfaces, Bug Fixes https://t.co/250YdzjXKMJul 05 20:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882761637870096385Jul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Is Android really just Linux? https://t.co/bsDttmu96HJul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #aospJul 05 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@Soundtoxin      https://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/882762296015060992Jul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines This is one of the reasons people shouldn'tJul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 say something as ambiguous as 'Linux' unless they'reJul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 talking about the kernel.Jul 05 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@Soundtoxin      https://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/882762417914204160Jul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines Android is not GNU/Linux. There is a simpleJul 05 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 answer when you use more straightforward terminology.Jul 05 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882762468174516224Jul 05 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Dell Precision 5520 Mobile Workstation review: The UbuntuJul 05 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882763414673784833Jul 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 #Lollypop – A New Modern #Music Player for LinuxJul 05 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/himaaaatti/status/882770611403079681Jul 05 21:18
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cubexyza bit of a pity how minix ended upJul 05 23:55
cubexyzPrentice Hall was selling the Minix book plus the disks for Minix 2.0 for around $100Jul 05 23:59
*TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Lollypop – A New Modern #Music Player for...'Jul 06 00:00
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cubexyzthat was Minix 1.5 which I had a fair amount of trouble withJul 06 00:05
cubexyzI ran minix 3.3 in qemu for a whileJul 06 00:06
cubexyzbefore that I was trying Minix 3.1.8 on the Dell GX110Jul 06 00:07
cubexyznever stuck with it thoughJul 06 00:07
cubexyzsorry, it was Minix 1.5 Prentice Hall was selling, but I think they also sold 2.0Jul 06 00:08
cubexyzthe hardware support was somewhere behind openbsd in the 3.1.8 eraJul 06 00:09
cubexyzeach time I experimented with Minix I had some problemsJul 06 00:11
cubexyzopenbsd 4.7 on the GX110 now, which has been working pretty well since 2010Jul 06 00:12
cubexyzexperiments with plan 9, AROS, Minix, and Haiku were all interesting but you probably wouldn't want to use it for day to day normal stuffJul 06 00:14
cubexyzslack 14.2 is my bread and butter OS these days, along with vector linux, openbsd, FC1, and chromeos + croutonJul 06 00:17
cubexyzKDE 3.5.10 is a sort of save point, I want to maintain that so I have vector linux and openbsd for thatJul 06 00:18
cubexyzslack was the basis for vector linux, Basic Linux 3.5, tinylinux, no doubt there are other derivativesJul 06 00:24
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cubexyzof course there's a lot of things I don't understandJul 06 00:56
cubexyzfake burled wood tv cabinets for example :)Jul 06 00:56
cubexyzinkjet printers with tiny cartridges which evapourate over time Jul 06 01:02
cubexyzit's because of the air hole Jul 06 01:02
cubexyzeasy to fix, cover the air hole :)Jul 06 01:02
oiaohmcubexyz:  inkjet evaporation rate also lines up with speed of settting in print head.Jul 06 01:03
cubexyzit's the solvent that evapourates Jul 06 01:03
cubexyzquite a poor deal for the customer I'd sayJul 06 01:04
oiaohmhttps://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/597780/hp-new-sme-enterprise-printers-move-paper-ink/   Really most inkjet printers are wrong design.Jul 06 01:08
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cubexyzI keep track of how long my laserjet toner cartridges lastJul 06 01:10
cubexyzlast replacement was nov 2015Jul 06 01:10
oiaohmLasers are designed to be able to be left sit for years.Jul 06 01:11
oiaohmBut there is a down side higher particle count when in operation. Jul 06 01:12
cubexyzwhat does that mean?Jul 06 01:12
oiaohmcubexyz: when a laser printer is in operation if you are measing the output into the office space it higher than a inkjet printer.Jul 06 01:14
cubexyzmore air pollution I guess?Jul 06 01:14
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oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22095199Jul 06 01:15
oiaohmcubexyz: yep higher air pollution value.Jul 06 01:15
cubexyzI'm not printing more than a page or two a few times a monthJul 06 01:16
oiaohmcubexyz: of course light home printing you most likely have nothing to worry about.Jul 06 01:16
oiaohmcubexyz: setting up in a office with like 15+ printers that is another matter.Jul 06 01:17
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oiaohmcubexyz: in  office inkjet you want a http://www8.hp.com/au/en/ads/pagewide-technology/overview.html  pagewide if you can afford it.Jul 06 01:18
cubexyzabout $500 Canadian, not _too_ out of reachJul 06 01:20
cubexyzwhat happened to the paperless office? :)Jul 06 01:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.idg.com.au | HP's new printers move the paper not the ink - PC World Australia [ http://ur1.ca/r6ez4 ]Jul 06 01:22
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oiaohmcubexyz: no one really invented the time provable and hard to destory government approved digital record.Jul 06 01:24
oiaohmcubexyz: of course pagewide inkjets still will stuff up if left with nothing to print and ink sets in head.Jul 06 01:25
oiaohmcubexyz: so some setups should be using inkjets and other setups should be using laser.Jul 06 01:27
oiaohmcubexyz: and hopefully one day someone designs a all rounder that works.Jul 06 01:27
cubexyzare all the HP pagewides inkjet printers?Jul 06 01:27
cubexyzif so, I'll just stick with my old HP laserjetJul 06 01:28
cubexyzalso "cartridges using a non-HP chip may not work"Jul 06 01:28
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cubexyzon the plus side: PCL6 is supported, PDF, and postscriptJul 06 01:31
oiaohmcubexyz: laser drum was always pagewide.  So pagewide hp are all inkjet because it inkjet that can have a single head moving around and stuff up or be a page wide with many heads so they don't have to move.Jul 06 01:32
cubexyzah I seeJul 06 01:32
oiaohmcubexyz: reason why laser printers were so fast at printing compare to inkjet was the pagewide printing.Jul 06 01:32
oiaohmcubexyz: pagewide inkjet leave laser in printing speed dust.Jul 06 01:33
oiaohmdecent printing speed feature require is pagewide printing.Jul 06 01:33
MinceRhttp://boingboing.net/2017/07/01/shitty-canada-day-gift.htmlJul 06 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Canadian entertainment industry begs Chinese courts to censor its movies / Boing BoingJul 06 01:36
cubexyzthe internet tends to route around censorshipJul 06 01:40
MinceRindeedJul 06 01:43
MinceRbut it's pretty sad when the supreme court of canada doesn't know what jurisdiction isJul 06 01:43
MinceRand all the copyright nazis are too stupid to understand how this can screw them in the futureJul 06 01:44
cubexyzit is a pain yesJul 06 01:44
cubexyzI can't download toronto directories any more modern than 1926Jul 06 01:45
cubexyznext year I get to see 1927 :-PJul 06 01:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Best Linux Media Servers https://t.co/to51PhKMGRJul 06 02:29
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oiaohmcubexyz: and MinceR the copyright accords were written on the presume that a publisher would obey the laws of where the had operations.   So having an operation in a country was agreeing to obey the rules of that country.Jul 06 02:44
oiaohmcubexyz: and MinceR this was written before cold war and a lot of other stupidity.Jul 06 02:44
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/a9mw1cNejs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linuxJul 06 04:26
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (www.tuxmachines.org) #media #multimedia #gnu #linuxJul 06 04:34
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #securityJul 06 04:45
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #securityJul 06 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882891443832066048Jul 06 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 #Android Leftovers https://t.co/87eCNbcxIFJul 06 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJul 06 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #nokia #eu #linuxJul 06 05:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/87eCNbcxIF #google #nokia #eu #linux #androidWear'Jul 06 05:21
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TweetTuxMachines                 #CoderDojo merges with the #RaspberryPi FoundationJul 06 05:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/sQg872gnl7 (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #gnuJul 06 05:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CoderDojo merges with the #RaspberryPi Foundation https://t.co/sQg872gnl7 #raspi...'Jul 06 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 #LXQt -Based #Lubuntu 17.10 to Ship with #Qupzilla byJul 06 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Default, #VLC Media Player https://t.co/sbkothdMm6Jul 06 05:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882894392368955392Jul 06 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 First Point Release of Tails 3.0 Anonymous Linux OSJul 06 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Supports Latest Tor Update https://t.co/6B7DxrognBJul 06 05:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) ... https://t.co/eZN6aOdCBEJul 06 05:30
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TweetTuxMachines                 Industrial touch-panel computer builds on #RaspberryPi 3Jul 06 05:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 Why Is Open Source Software Important For Business?Jul 06 06:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/882909376968876032Jul 06 06:29
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MinceRoiaohm: that does not extend the jurisdiction of said states beyond their bordersJul 06 07:09
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TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief      https://t.co/sQg872gnl7 (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi #gnuJul 06 07:09
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schestowitzhttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/software/intellectual-property-is-gaining-in-importance-with-investments-in-emerging-tech-such-as-ai/articleshow/59464691.cmsJul 06 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | IPR: Intellectual Property is gaining in importance with investments in emerging tech such as AI - The Economic TimesJul 06 07:14
schestowitz""While it makes sense to patent anything hardware related, there is no desire to patent new developments in software, given the rapid rate of change. 'Jul 06 07:14
oiaohmMinceR: it is the Berne Convention treaty at fault that give the possablity to extend court ruling on copyright across borders.Jul 06 07:18
oiaohmMinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention everything in blue on the map there are under the one treaty and a copyright ruling in any of those countries might be enforceable in every other one.Jul 06 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Berne Convention - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r6ha8 ]Jul 06 07:19
oiaohmMinceR: so yes China and Canada are under Berne Convention.Jul 06 07:21
oiaohmMinceR: another item that can take a count ruling global is under international contract law treaties.Jul 06 07:24
MinceRagain, only applies to copyright rulings and only in berne convention signatoriesJul 06 07:31
MinceRalso, the berne convention and the WIPO copyright treaty (and all other such crimes against humanity) need to die, along with the WIPO itselfJul 06 07:32
oiaohmMinceR: berne convention applies in the case you bought up.  http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2017/06/global-internet-takedown-orders-come-canada-supreme-court-upholds-international-removal-google-search-results/Jul 06 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | Global Internet Takedown Orders Come to Canada: Supreme Court Upholds International Removal of Google Search Results - Michael GeistJul 06 07:39
oiaohmMinceR: using those websites to unlawfully sell the intellectual property of another company.<<  This is the same a listing for sale books produced by non authorised publisher.Jul 06 07:40
oiaohmMinceR: from memory google only operates in Berne Convention countries.Jul 06 07:41
MinceRsucks to be themJul 06 07:41
oiaohmPlease note berne convention rules don't allow censorship as such.  Only allows actions against those shipping works they don't in fact have the legal right by either being owner, authorised or it being public domianJul 06 07:43
oiaohmAlso Berne convention allows going after anyone assisting party doing that.  That is where google gets into trouble.Jul 06 07:44
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oiaohmMinceR: there is not much of the map that is not covered by copyright treaties.   This is always made me wonder how pirate bay has been able to keep working.Jul 06 07:46
MinceRapparently some countries considered their own constitution to overrule such "treaties" for a whileJul 06 07:47
MinceRbut apparently sweden lost the rest of their sovereignty recentlyJul 06 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882928278213931009Jul 06 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: ZIP Bombs, #ShadowBrokers, #Linux Bashing OverJul 06 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Weak Passwords etc.Jul 06 07:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: ZIP Bombs, Shadow Brokers, Linux Bashing Over Weak Passwords etc. | Tux MachinesJul 06 07:48
oiaohmMinceR: Berne Convention includes as one of it counter measures trade embargos.Jul 06 07:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882929046702755840Jul 06 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #Microsoft #Openwashing, Damage Control, & SpywareJul 06 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KFXvBmdwUi (www.tuxmachines.org) #skypeJul 06 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #layoffs #linkedin #eee #cbs #zdnet #hogwash #revisionismJul 06 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing, Damage Control, and Spyware | Tux MachinesJul 06 07:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: ZIP Bombs, #ShadowBrokers, #Linux Bashing Over Weak...'Jul 06 07:49
oiaohmMinceR: yes you can override Berne but don't be upset when someone take payment for something then delivers nothing.Jul 06 07:49
oiaohmMinceR: basically how to reclaim what copyright holder is owed for the nicked works.Jul 06 07:50
oiaohmhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Weston-RDP-GL-Accel hmm work on remote interface locally processed opengl for core wayland.Jul 06 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenGL Hardware Acceleration Support For Weston's RDP Backend - PhoronixJul 06 08:02
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/5nKscJul 06 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Anal RV Game. Add "anal" before RV names. - Album on ImgurJul 06 08:04
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft #Openwashing, Damage Control, & Spyware https://t.co/KFXvBmdwUi...'Jul 06 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Microsoft #Openwashing, Damage Control, & SpywareJul 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief       https://t.co/KFXvBmdwUi (www.tuxmachines.org) #skypeJul 06 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 #layoffs #linkedin #eee #cbs #zdnet #hogwash #revisionismJul 06 08:27
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MinceRhttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/07/now_its_easier_.htmlJul 06 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Now It's Easier than Ever to Steal Someone's Keys - Schneier on SecurityJul 06 10:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @FLOTUS Did you visit the torture sites?...'Jul 06 10:05
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MinceRFLATUSJul 06 10:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882967810405785601Jul 06 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux 4.13 and #WaylandJul 06 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/gLHUc5IhkJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernelJul 06 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 #graphicsJul 06 10:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.13 and Wayland | Tux MachinesJul 06 10:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux 4.13 and #Wayland https://t.co/gLHUc5IhkJ #kernel #graphics...'Jul 06 10:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/882969148770463745Jul 06 10:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security: Public #Database Dumps, Default Passwords,Jul 06 10:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #Microsoft Breach, Back Doors, and #OpenBSDJul 06 10:29
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/kNzJEykKrf (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 06 10:29