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| DaaemonFC | schestowitz, I see that Linsux is still semi-active on Reddit. | Jun 11 02:36 |
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| DaaemonFC | I'll give them this, they do love to troll. | Jun 11 02:36 |
| DaaemonFC | Linux has been getting more consistent and coherent, but BSD is showing signs of advanced decay, at least as a desktop OS. | Jun 11 02:36 |
| DaaemonFC | GTK+ seems to deal with super high res displays a lot better than Qt apps do. | Jun 11 02:41 |
| DaaemonFC | You can scale KDE and its apps, but things like the Qt file picker are still wrong. Checkboxes are teeny tiny. Auto spell check becomes unusable due to font rendering issues. | Jun 11 02:42 |
| DaaemonFC | They need to fix some bugs in Qt. | Jun 11 02:42 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME decided to do HiDPI right and for some reason, KDE didn't. | Jun 11 02:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would not say Gnome got HiDPI right. | Jun 11 02:50 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Gnome did the stuffed up integer base scaling that has to be recreated and Qt had floating point scaling. | Jun 11 02:50 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: also Gnome has been picking bugs out of GTK as well. | Jun 11 02:52 |
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| schestowitz | [07:35] <DaaemonFC> schestowitz, I see that Linsux is still semi-active on Reddit. | Jun 11 02:57 |
| schestowitz | yes, they're rude and hostle | Jun 11 02:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't like Reddit crowd there | Jun 11 02:57 |
| schestowitz | some pro-Microsoft people there, some MS employees | Jun 11 02:57 |
| schestowitz | (in Linux subs) | Jun 11 02:57 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would not say gnome got HiDPI right. The integer based scaling come out of Gnome. Qt had floating point scaleing. Both GTK and QT have had glitches for HiDPI | Jun 11 03:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Linux HiDPI from KDE and Gnome has been choose your broken. | Jun 11 03:02 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm | Jun 11 03:08 |
| DaaemonFC | I heard that more improvements for GNOME are coming. | Jun 11 03:08 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://blog.hetzenecker.me/2017-05-15-hello-gsoc/ One of KDE summer of code group will be working on HiDPI | Jun 11 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.hetzenecker.me | Making Hi-DPI awesome | Jun 11 03:12 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: There is work going on with both Gnome and KDE to fix the messes. | Jun 11 03:12 |
| DaaemonFC | http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2017/06/uefi-and-mageia-6-adventure.html | Jun 11 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: UEFI and Mageia 6 RC Adventure | Jun 11 03:27 | |
| DaaemonFC | I wonder if Mageia handles uEFI and Secure Boot these days. | Jun 11 03:27 |
| DaaemonFC | The last time I paid attention to it, they were one of the last distributions still using the patched-to-hell version of Grub 0.97. | Jun 11 03:28 |
| DaaemonFC | Obviously, the only way that could work is with BIOS Boot enabled. | Jun 11 03:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn He may never come here https://t.co/FmjamZHy0n' | Jun 11 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petition.parliament.uk | Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom. - Petitions | Jun 11 09:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn He may never come here...' | Jun 11 09:53 | |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/xwlb42y2nx2z.gif | Jun 11 09:56 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/BarnabyEdwards/status/873246062932369409 | Jun 11 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 10:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 10:00 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: from that same complilation of lame UX for volume controol? | Jun 11 10:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #trumpOut and soon #MayOut - his BFF....' | Jun 11 10:05 | |
| MinceR | not from that dump, but on the same topic | Jun 11 10:09 |
| schestowitz | I c... | Jun 11 10:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PlebianPrime/status/873906576075231233 | Jun 11 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PlebianPrime: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Don… https://t.co/0eK7vyBI8G | Jun 11 10:18 | |
| schestowitz | Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Dont tarnish you all say. Then i want every arab gone."" | Jun 11 10:18 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_Saudi_role_in_September_11_attacks | Jun 11 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 11 10:18 | |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/bfd522c01bb90135b144005056a9545d (gallery: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-30 ) | Jun 11 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wally Has A Doctor's Note - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-30 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 10:46 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the Arabia problem is part the usage of militia | Jun 11 10:46 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/05/01/520183/Yemen-AlQaeda-AQAP-Qasim-alRimi-Saudi-Arabia-US-UN-Houthis-Hadi-Hudaydah It this stuff that make your go what in heck. | Jun 11 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.ir | PressTV-'Al-Qaeda fights alongside US, S Arabia in Yemen' [ http://ur1.ca/qzkup ] | Jun 11 10:52 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: trumps call to not support terrorist groups is a very big issue in the Arabia area. When a terrorist group will fight on the side the political wants they get paid then wonder why down the track they turn around and bite them. | Jun 11 10:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/article/encryption-leaves-authorities-not-in-a-good-place-former-us-intelligence-chief/ Lets ask for the impossible. | Jun 11 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encryption leaves authorities 'not in a good place': Former US intelligence chief | ZDNet | Jun 11 10:58 | |
| oiaohm | You cannot have encryption that protects privacy and a back door. | Jun 11 10:59 |
| cubexyz | write your own :) | Jun 11 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873918151720919041 | Jun 11 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for | Jun 11 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Professional #Audio Production https://t.co/Cs84rAsNSt | Jun 11 11:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #multimedia #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 11 11:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional Audio Production | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may These people are all closeted bigots....' | Jun 11 11:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 11:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI | Jun 11 11:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 11 11:07 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks for the links | Jun 11 11:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 11:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional #Audio...' | Jun 11 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't understand http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 11:14 |
| schestowitz | massive tetris | Jun 11 11:14 |
| MinceR | the point is the end | Jun 11 11:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it gets clipped for me | Jun 11 11:15 |
| MinceR | where the player deliberately places the piece off to the side, instead of in the hole? :> | Jun 11 11:16 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/BfQJ4 | Jun 11 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glad you made this far. Here's some more! - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 11:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873924899412336640 | Jun 11 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You | Jun 11 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You Run Windows Virus Free | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:29 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I still don't get it | Jun 11 11:30 |
| schestowitz | some taste of art? | Jun 11 11:30 |
| MinceR | annoying people with OCD tendencies, i guess | Jun 11 11:31 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its one of those odd games. Its there are some really old rule variations to tetris | Jun 11 11:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873927425465483269 | Jun 11 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 11:39 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c3af67201bb90135b144005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-02 ) | Jun 11 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modular Workstations - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-02 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 11:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873928547135631360 | Jun 11 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers: #OpenStack, #OpenDaylight, #Rackspace, and | Jun 11 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Serverless https://t.co/SRvmgRDBuF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 11 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: OpenStack, OpenDaylight, Rackspace, and 'Serverless' | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 11:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873930244226469888 | Jun 11 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Distributions News: #MX 16.1, #Clonezilla, #PorteusKiosk | Jun 11 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.0, and #openSUSE #Tumbleweed https://t.co/xj7LsAXOq2 | Jun 11 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 11 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distributions News: MX-16.1, Clonezilla, Porteus Kiosk 4.4.0, and openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 11 11:51 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/GxNJN | Jun 11 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Eternal Struggle for the Immature - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SecurityNews6/status/873933220819066880 | Jun 11 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SecurityNews6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 12:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873935038676709377 | Jun 11 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News (and Olds): #GNOME3 Pimping, This week in | Jun 11 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, and Older News https://t.co/oQPvvoqs7L | Jun 11 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtk #gnu #linux | Jun 11 12:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News (and Olds): GNOME 3 Pimping, This week in GNOME Builder, and Older News | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873935673115496448 | Jun 11 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/mnG7qwzy3M | Jun 11 12:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 11 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 12:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/873937047685406721 | Jun 11 12:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 12:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 12:20 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 11 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DUP | Jun 11 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jun 11 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: SystemD | Jun 11 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Linux | Jun 11 13:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Fedora Core 1 Man ! | Jun 11 13:18 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: microsoft | Jun 11 13:20 |
| schestowitz | WHAT? | Jun 11 13:20 |
| schestowitz | f* dat | Jun 11 13:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 13:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NAUgCm-3Tc | Jun 11 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Louis C.K. Faggot, Cunt, Nigger - YouTube | Jun 11 13:21 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes DUP | Jun 11 13:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 13:25 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: interesting times aye | Jun 11 13:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft Ubuntu bash shell in Windows 10 | Jun 11 13:25 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: WannaCry | Jun 11 13:32 |
| MinceR | http://index.hu/mindekozben/poszt/2017/06/10/kiderult_donald_trump_donald_kacsa_megforditva/ | Jun 11 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-index.hu | Index - Mindeközben - Kiderült: Donald Trump = Donald kacsa megfordítva | Jun 11 13:33 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep NHS spyware adwaare malware | Jun 11 13:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but UK sucks for IT in general so | Jun 11 13:36 |
| cubexyz | just general badware | Jun 11 13:50 |
| cubexyz | that includes lots of just plain bad hardware too | Jun 11 13:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/1lkra3s3e13z.png | Jun 11 13:53 |
| cubexyz | I never did get a straight answer from intel about which CPUs didn't have Intel ME | Jun 11 13:59 |
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| cubexyz | it's stuff like this that makes me think about vax and amiga | Jun 11 14:03 |
| cubexyz | there's some talk about using a 2nd nic | Jun 11 14:04 |
| cubexyz | don't use the one on the motherboard | Jun 11 14:04 |
| cubexyz | I heard the intel me isn't located on the CPU die | Jun 11 14:08 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F306ilg.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/F306ilg ) | Jun 11 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I am Death! Feel my wrath! | Jun 11 14:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I am Death! Feel my wrath! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 14:13 | |
| MinceR | it makes me think about FPGA-based cpus | Jun 11 14:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it has been located in the Northbridge chip | Jun 11 14:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Jun 11 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Jun 11 14:16 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_Controller_Hub the scary point is ME can run and do network connectivity with no x86 CPU chip on the motherboard. | Jun 11 14:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Platform Controller Hub - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzlo4 ] | Jun 11 14:17 | |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, What's your take on the BSD approach to systemd? | Jun 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | launchd? | Jun 11 15:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They seem to be writing stub services that redirect systemd functionality to the native services. | Jun 11 15:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They have enough stubs to get recent versions of GNOME and KDE running. | Jun 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | so they'll support poettering's shitty dbus APIs? i don't like it | Jun 11 15:22 |
| MinceR | those APIs should die | Jun 11 15:22 |
| MinceR | preferably along with dbus | Jun 11 15:22 |
| DaaemonFC | The idea is that the program is fooled into believing systemd is there, but it isn't. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess it's easier to do that than port the software without systemd support. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Seems kind of gross, but I suspect Devuan is doing something similar. | Jun 11 15:23 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The Lumina Desktop does not use systemd, dbus, or any of that. | Jun 11 15:24 |
| MinceR | well, it's better than letting cancerd run | Jun 11 15:25 |
| MinceR | and no, devuan does not do this | Jun 11 15:25 |
| DaaemonFC | What do they do? | Jun 11 15:25 |
| DaaemonFC | How are they avoiding it? | Jun 11 15:25 |
| MinceR | it disables compile-time options to depend on cancerd | Jun 11 15:25 |
| MinceR | and the default desktop is xfce, which doesn't depend on cancerd | Jun 11 15:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Oh, well. | Jun 11 15:26 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone cared about running gnome or kde enough to patch them | Jun 11 15:26 |
| DaaemonFC | From what I can tell, Lumina is written in Qt and uses Fluxbox as the window manager. | Jun 11 15:27 |
| DaaemonFC | The Lumina code is licensed under the 3 clause BSD license. | Jun 11 15:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Some Linux distributions offer it as well, but Fedora doesn't have it. | Jun 11 15:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Speaking of licenses, I think that as of 3.24, all of GNOME is now using GPL3+ or LGPL3+. | Jun 11 15:28 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME Web switched from GPL2+ this release. | Jun 11 15:28 |
| DaaemonFC | The more code switches to the newer GPL, the better, especially since Canonical is so hostile with licensing. | Jun 11 15:29 |
| DaaemonFC | They haven't named names, but they said that basing a distribution on Ubuntu's packages is illegal even if you strip them of Ubuntu's copyright. | Jun 11 15:29 |
| DaaemonFC | So they were implying Linux Mint is pirated without saying it. | Jun 11 15:29 |
| DaaemonFC | Mark Shuttleworth came out and said that they made this policy because some "shoddy distributions" were passing themselves off as Ubuntu and hurting their brand. | Jun 11 15:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Whatever that means. | Jun 11 15:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: kind of wrong. Stripping the copyright would be illegal. removing the trademarks is legal. | Jun 11 15:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Matthew Garrett is correct that this makes Ubuntu nonfree. | Jun 11 15:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there are some out there doing the wrong thing with copyright. | Jun 11 15:31 |
| DaaemonFC | The correct way to protect your brand is with trademark enforcement. | Jun 11 15:31 |
| DaaemonFC | Errr, strip them of Ubuntu's marks I meant. | Jun 11 15:31 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: can you link these statements from canonical? | Jun 11 15:31 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there have been a few ubuntu forks that have in fact stripped copyright headers. Ie got a little to over active on trademark removal. | Jun 11 15:32 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett's comments: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Ubuntu still isn't free software | Jun 11 15:32 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Original post from Ubuntu: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 15:32 |
| DaaemonFC | errr | Jun 11 15:32 |
| DaaemonFC | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/taking-a-stand-against-unstable-risky-unofficial-ubuntu-images/ | Jun 11 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Taking a stand against unofficial Ubuntu images | Ubuntu Insights | Jun 11 15:32 | |
| MinceR | thx | Jun 11 15:32 |
| DaaemonFC | "We do not make this move lightly, but have come to the view that the value of Ubuntu to its users rests on these commitments to security, quality and updates." | Jun 11 15:33 |
| DaaemonFC | LOL | Jun 11 15:33 |
| DaaemonFC | Must be why I STILL can't connect to my Bluetooth stereo system with A2DP for the third Ubuntu release in a row. | Jun 11 15:34 |
| DaaemonFC | :) | Jun 11 15:34 |
| DaaemonFC | Works fine in Fedora. | Jun 11 15:34 |
| DaaemonFC | I like Fedora better anyway. | Jun 11 15:34 |
| DaaemonFC | It's surprisingly much more stable than Ubuntu and much more user friendly than Debian, especially considering how new all of the packages tend to be. | Jun 11 15:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: some of those risky distributions have delete sections on the package management that include like what license files are. | Jun 11 15:35 |
| DaaemonFC | The Debian/Ubuntu mindset seems to be that if you don't like what a package is doing, then patch it and never worry about sending the patch upstream or even working with upstream at all. | Jun 11 15:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so there is some copyright infringment going on due to removing information that should not be removed. | Jun 11 15:35 |
| DaaemonFC | That way you can hve hundreds of packages that don't work like the upstream version and all have their own bugs too! | Jun 11 15:36 |
| DaaemonFC | At least, that's the way it was when I looked last time. And their Ubuntu kernel was carrying nearly 100 patches as of about 4 years ago vs the mainline. It was so bad that if you compiled and used a mainline kernel, you broke things that were supposed to work in Ubuntu. | Jun 11 15:37 |
| DaaemonFC | Again, might have improved. Some of the AppArmor stuff was upstreamed since then and the patches for Upstart's readahead are irrelevant now that they use systemd, which has its own readahead. | Jun 11 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: systemd-readahead has been removed. | Jun 11 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | since systemd 217 | Jun 11 15:39 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Debian policy rules do say that patches are meant to be sent up stream. Debian does have issues with maintainers not always following the rules. Ubuntu does not have that policy. | Jun 11 15:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 15:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora doesn't carry its own patches unless it's going to be upstreamed very soon. | Jun 11 15:42 |
| MinceR | the only thing canonical is committed to is not doing any work other than putting their branding on debian | Jun 11 15:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Pretty much every package is vanilla or with as few patches as possible. | Jun 11 15:43 |
| DaaemonFC | I'm not entirely thrilled with the Wayland by default. It's still not ready. | Jun 11 15:44 |
| DaaemonFC | Most of the problems are with XWayland. | Jun 11 15:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The performance is pretty bad with XWayland and some bugs with touch and things like that. | Jun 11 15:45 |
| DaaemonFC | The overhead is sufficient that many games become unplayable when you run them like that, but there's a GNOME on Xorg session. | Jun 11 15:45 |
| DaaemonFC | I feel like that's going to be there for a while as a crutch until XWayland performance gets a lot better. | Jun 11 15:46 |
| MinceR | games will never work right if they stick to their commitment to enforcing vsync at all times | Jun 11 15:46 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, That's one of the problems, yeah. | Jun 11 15:47 |
| DaaemonFC | It's better to just drop frames if you have to. | Jun 11 15:47 |
| DaaemonFC | The stuttering from trying to use vsync is much worse. | Jun 11 15:47 |
| DaaemonFC | brb | Jun 11 15:48 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5h2uvg/wayland_bad_for_gaming/ | Jun 11 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Wayland - bad for gaming? : linux_gaming | Jun 11 15:50 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, you can work around some of the problems, at least with games that use SDL. | Jun 11 15:50 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Oddly enough, Microsoft forces vsync on when you run a game that you bought in the Windows Store. | Jun 11 15:52 |
| DaaemonFC | So you get the same problem there. | Jun 11 15:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 15:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Surprised that people who bought Gears of War 4 weren't angrier about that. | Jun 11 15:52 |
| MinceR | which one took it from the other? | Jun 11 15:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, Wayland predates the Universal Windows Platform. | Jun 11 15:54 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Also, games in the Windows Store can't use SLI/Crossfire. | Jun 11 15:54 |
| DaaemonFC | So if you have dual graphics cards, it will only use one of them. | Jun 11 15:55 |
| DaaemonFC | There are really awful limitations on Windows Store apps and Microsoft wonders why they can't get any big name third party titles on it instead of on Steam. | Jun 11 15:56 |
| DaaemonFC | It's going to take Microsoft years to sort through this Windows Store mess to the point where they've caught up with Steam, if it ever happens. | Jun 11 15:56 |
| DaaemonFC | Steam has the advantage of being cross platform too, so there's that. | Jun 11 15:57 |
| DaaemonFC | If you buy a game that is cross-platform and then later switch to Mac or Linux, it should keep working. | Jun 11 15:57 |
| DaaemonFC | When you get a Windows app, it only works on Windows. | Jun 11 15:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 15:57 |
| DaaemonFC | I mean, technically the developer could release an AppX package and tell you how to enable sideloading, assuming your Windows SKU allows you to do that. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| MinceR | apparently it doesn't even work on windows | Jun 11 15:58 |
| DaaemonFC | But Windows still won't allow an AppX to be installed unless it's signed with your developer key, issued by Microsoft or one of their supported CAs. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| DaaemonFC | I suppose....that Wine could be made to allow AppX installs and ignore the signing requirement, but....You'd still have to get the developer to release an AppX package. Or maybe use the pirate bay as your app store. :) | Jun 11 15:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder which DirectSuX version will be the first one that's limited to winblows store crApps | Jun 11 16:00 |
| MinceR | to force game developers into the store | Jun 11 16:00 |
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| XRevan86 | > it only works on Windows | Jun 11 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Like… on Windows 7? :) | Jun 11 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | So there's also that: it only works on Windows 10 even, not just only on Windows. | Jun 11 16:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: codeweavers did get windows store app to run on wine but thing you run into a legal hell. Sideloading store applications is not in fact permitted. | Jun 11 16:03 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: and of course Microsoft does not make a MIcrosoft store for wine. | Jun 11 16:03 |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, You don't have to be a UWP app to use the latest DirectX for now. | Jun 11 16:12 |
| DaaemonFC | I think they'd be sued massively for that. | Jun 11 16:12 |
| DaaemonFC | You do have to be a UWP app if you want access to EdgeHTML, otherwise you have to use Trident to render web pages. | Jun 11 16:13 |
| DaaemonFC | You could bundle Xulrunner, I guess, but that makes your app bigger. Also, how much longer will that work with the "overhaul" being done on Firefox. | Jun 11 16:13 |
| MinceR | for now. | Jun 11 16:14 |
| MinceR | you could use Blink instead | Jun 11 16:14 |
| MinceR | but it wouldn't be nearly as broken as EdgeHTML or Trident | Jun 11 16:14 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, EdgeHTML reports that it is Blink. | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | and since your first ideas were to use one of those, you probably wanted your app to be broken | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | that doesn't make it Blink | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | it's just IE pretending to be Blink | Jun 11 16:15 |
| DaaemonFC | And Microsoft says that any rendering differences are bugs that it wants to fix. | Jun 11 16:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, but their goal is compatibility with Blink. | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | sure it is | Jun 11 16:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Fake it til you make it. | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | microsoft never lies! | Jun 11 16:15 |
| DaaemonFC | B-) | Jun 11 16:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox is, sadly, still the de facto browser on Linux. | Jun 11 16:17 |
| DaaemonFC | Google has no intention of becoming anything resembling a proper upstream with Chromium. | Jun 11 16:18 |
| DaaemonFC | They've left most of the Linux packaging issues closed with WONTFIX and so Chromium from your distribution has to bring in hundreds of MB of "chromium-liba", and Chrome is worse. | Jun 11 16:18 |
| MinceR | great | Jun 11 16:19 |
| DaaemonFC | It depends on "Red Hat LSB" which depends on tons of crap that Chrome doesn't even use. | Jun 11 16:19 |
| MinceR | meanwhile palemoon still has some annoying bugs | Jun 11 16:19 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, How long has the Firefox bug that makes it unusable with dark themes on Linux been open? | Jun 11 16:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Longer than I can remember. | Jun 11 16:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Possibly ~15 years. | Jun 11 16:19 |
| DaaemonFC | They say a fix has been checked in for Firefox 55. | Jun 11 16:20 |
| DaaemonFC | I'll believe that when I see it. | Jun 11 16:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 11 16:21 |
| MinceR | the one that annoys me the most is when it randomly decides not to play animated gifs | Jun 11 16:21 |
| DaaemonFC | It's simply not acceptable to go to install a web browser (Chromium/Chrome) and have your package manager tell you that 500 MB of packages will be installed. | Jun 11 16:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Nice achievements and track record there. Much...' | Jun 11 16:23 | |
| MinceR | it's the natural way of the "modern" web | Jun 11 16:24 |
| MinceR | they keep tacking shit on top of everything that was there before | Jun 11 16:24 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The guy who develops higan posted a rant about how difficult it is to get a SSL certificate and how the CAs are basically a cartel. | Jun 11 16:26 |
| MinceR | and there isn't much of a point to it anyway | Jun 11 16:27 |
| MinceR | as PKI is laughably vulnerable | Jun 11 16:27 |
| DaaemonFC | He said that browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe, but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 16:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 16:28 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily download and run javascript on your computer | Jun 11 16:28 |
| MinceR | without asking you | Jun 11 16:28 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure their sandbox is the one piece of software that has no bugs | Jun 11 16:28 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/b1d0101006b4013593f4005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-04 ) | Jun 11 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-04 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 16:30 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/lXGgztG.gif (gallery: https://imgur.com/lXGgztG ) | Jun 11 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 11 16:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Web browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe (and the certificate authorities operate as a cartel, requiring hundreds of dollars to sign your domains), but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | I've decided to switch my main browser to GNOME Web with Webkit2-GTK and keep Firefox around for stubborn websites. Nobody is going to test for Web since it has a marketshare of probably 1/1000 people who use the GNOME Desktop Environment on Linux. The fact that it uses Webkit makes it work though, usually, since Webkit is the engine that Safari uses, and it's also what Chrome's Blink engine is based on. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | As an aside, Webkit's origins are from KHTML. The rendering engine used in KDE. At the time Apple forked it (in 2002), they praised KHTML and KJS for coming in at 140,000 source lines of code. After all this "modern web" bullshit, 15 years later, Apple, Google, and other companies have Webkit sitting at 10,383,538 source lines of code. Yes, Apple and Google have managed to bloat Webkit to 74 times its original size in just 15 years. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | It can take 300 MB of RAM to load one tab with Facebook in it, in a "modern web" browser. :( | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | At this point, it's all about which rendering engine is the least bad. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | For GNOME's part, they made a decent browser around the shit sandwich that is Webkit. It reuses code and functionality from GNOME instead of duplicating the code for the browser itself, so it's less of a shit sandwich than Chrome. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | When you go to install Chrome on Linux, your package manager will tell you that 500 MB of garbage is about to be added to your computer. By comparison, everything that Web needs is already in GNOME and GTK. | Jun 11 16:39 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I edited that to include (Is the web 74 times more useful now than it was in 2002?). | Jun 11 16:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 16:42 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, "Modern Web" means making it easy for random websites to run programs on your computer that you're not allowed to audit/inspect, etc. | Jun 11 16:44 |
| DaaemonFC | It's becoming a platform for non-free software distribution instead of simply viewing pages and downloading software to use on your computer. | Jun 11 16:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 16:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The W3C has allowed a few companies to take over the web and reshape it how a company like Microsoft or Apple sees fit. | Jun 11 16:45 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/LPJHQIj.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/LPJHQIj ) | Jun 11 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The original fidget spinner | Jun 11 16:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The original fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 16:48 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Then there's the problem of "premium content". | Jun 11 16:54 |
| DaaemonFC | Widevine | Jun 11 16:54 |
| DaaemonFC | They've turned HTML 5 into everything that was wrong with Flash. | Jun 11 16:54 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jun 11 16:54 |
| DaaemonFC | Including a proprietary DRM module that opens your computer up to attack. Or else, you can't watch Netflix or listen to Spotify. More stuff will break without it in the future. | Jun 11 16:54 |
| MinceR | they'll probably start blocking ordinary text | Jun 11 16:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make support for their DRM contingent on removing adblockers or something | Jun 11 16:55 |
| DaaemonFC | Thanks to Chrome's massive market share, they can commit atrocities against the web and its users. Next up is a program called "Funding Choices" which gives an ultimatum to adblock users to disable their ad filters or pay to use websites. | Jun 11 16:58 |
| DaaemonFC | We've seen this sort of stuff before, but more filter lists and userscripts came along to detect the anti-adblock code and disable it, allowing access to the site. Will Funding Choices be as easy to disable? Not if you use Chrome. Google will simply boot any program that's capable of interfering with it out of the Chrome Web Store, and there's nothing you can do about it as long as you use Chrome. | Jun 11 17:00 |
| MinceR | "clouds have made changes" | Jun 11 17:01 |
| MinceR | i see that canonical is also struggling with the english language | Jun 11 17:01 |
| DaaemonFC | I added, "Google's motto used to be "Don't Be Evil!", but you, dear reader, tell me which part of Chrome is good. It's certainly not well designed. It's certainly there to abuse you. It's not going to get any better than it is now. The only way to win the game is to refuse to play it. Uninstall Chrome and use a different browser!" | Jun 11 17:02 |
| MinceR | http://scorpiondagger.tumblr.com/post/160242457753 | Jun 11 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scorpiondagger.tumblr.com | scorpion dagger [ http://ur1.ca/qzm7p ] | Jun 11 17:05 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 11 17:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 17:08 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: what is canonical's mechanism for enforcing this ban? | Jun 11 17:11 |
| MinceR | presumably copyright, but i can't see it | Jun 11 17:11 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I think they just contacted Amazon and filed a DMCA complaint. | Jun 11 17:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Most web services don't even really investigate the complaint, they just take down your stuff and there's nothing you can do about it, even if the DMCA complaint was completely bogus. | Jun 11 17:13 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 11 17:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Facebook and Youtube are even worse. If they detect any copyrighted sound in your video, they won't let you post it, or disable all sound. | Jun 11 17:14 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Youtube is worse yet. They let anyone file a DMCA complaint and then demand to put ads in your video in exchange for their permission to use the content....Except that people with no copyright to anything file these on random videos to stuff them full of ads. They usually drop their claim if you challenge it. Most people don't, so it's a way of stealing from you. Youtube (Google) doesn't care. | Jun 11 17:15 |
| MinceR | https://www.demilked.com/funny-design-fails/ | Jun 11 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.demilked.com | 10+ Most Hilarious Design Fails By “Crappy Design” [ http://ur1.ca/qzmb1 ] | Jun 11 17:36 | |
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| DaaemonFC | Looks like Fedora still has Banshee Media Player. | Jun 11 18:06 |
| DaaemonFC | The site says the last update was released in 2014. | Jun 11 18:06 |
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| MinceR | spot the differences >> https://www.poolpro.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/2/8/28270_intex-rectangular-frame-pool-7ft-1.jpg http://catalog.saco-ksa.com/ramadan-offers-2017/files/assets/basic-html/page-46.html# | Jun 11 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalog.saco-ksa.com | Ramadan Offers 2017 [ http://ur1.ca/qzmf8 ] | Jun 11 18:13 | |
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| DaaemonFC | I guess I need to look at my Ogg files and re-encode from Flac any that were encoded with libvorbis before 1.3.2. | Jun 11 18:52 |
| DaaemonFC | xiphmont backed out some AoTuv changes that resulted in sound quality problems. | Jun 11 18:52 |
| DaaemonFC | No wonder he's never merged AoTuv since the last time, many years ago. | Jun 11 18:52 |
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| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/31/bofh_2017_episode_4/ | Jun 11 18:59 |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 11 19:26 |
| DaaemonFC | They don't have the resources that Mozilla does, and XUL Add Ons are going to be history soon. | Jun 11 19:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Inevitably, they'll need to fork Firefox from scratch again to get WebExtension support, give up on Pale Moon completely, or try to fork and maintain a few really important XUL extensions themselves. | Jun 11 19:27 |
| DaaemonFC | They're going to creak and clank in other ways too. | Jun 11 19:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They won't have the Wayland support that's going into Firefox without rebasing the patches onto Pale Moon. | Jun 11 19:29 |
| DaaemonFC | That's not trivial. | Jun 11 19:29 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I don't see where Wayland support equals changing everything. | Jun 11 19:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: its not like XUL direct stuff talks X11. | Jun 11 19:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/nightly-and-wayland-builds-of-firefox-for-flatpak/ there are development branches of firefox that work on Wayland that are still XUL extention supporting. | Jun 11 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com | Nightly and Wayland Builds of Firefox for Flatpak | Brno hat | Jun 11 19:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security Supported | Jun 12 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Architecture https://t.co/WYINZCvmKT | Jun 12 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gentoo #saprc #gnu #llinux | Jun 12 00:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security Supported Hardware Architecture | Tux Machines | Jun 12 00:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security | Jun 12 00:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 00:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 00:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 00:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874127116731912194 | Jun 12 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE News | Jun 12 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7qnGQHLxMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 12 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE News | Tux Machines | Jun 12 00:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #neon #plasma #gnu #linux | Jun 12 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 00:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE...' | Jun 12 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874128314872586240 | Jun 12 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers | Jun 12 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ditching #Debian for #Devuan https://t.co/HK01st50Fj | Jun 12 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #security #gnu #linux #systemd | Jun 12 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching Debian for Devuan | Tux Machines | Jun 12 00:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 01:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874130744641298433 | Jun 12 01:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMETracker 2.0 and #UnitedGNOME | Jun 12 01:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/N4cfWFzgQn (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 12 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Tracker 2.0 and United GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 12 01:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 12 01:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874131555052126208 | Jun 12 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! | Jun 12 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5RKSYBOs1R (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dasyatis | Jun 12 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! | Tux Machines | Jun 12 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #germany #debian #freedom | Jun 12 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 01:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! https://t.co/5RKSYBOs1R #gnu #linux...' | Jun 12 01:11 | |
| MinceR | 12 012605 < DaaemonFC> MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 12 01:20 |
| MinceR | so's failfox | Jun 12 01:20 |
| MinceR | mozilla just keeps making it worse and worse | Jun 12 01:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOMETracker 2.0 and #UnitedGNOME https://t.co/N4cfWFzgQn #gnome #gnu #linux' | Jun 12 01:27 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/07/bofh_2017_episode_5/ | Jun 12 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Defenestration, a solution to Solutions To Problems We Don't Have • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qzo76 ] | Jun 12 01:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874135963571822592 | Jun 12 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Jun 12 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jHPvac0mFB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 12 01:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 01:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Tux Machines | Jun 12 01:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874136497380880384 | Jun 12 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Jun 12 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jHPvac0mFB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 12 01:56 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 12 02:02 |
| MinceR | https://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/160811148746/how-would-you-describe-your-experience-with | Jun 12 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityreactions.tumblr.com | Infosec Reactions — "How would you describe your experience with... | Jun 12 02:25 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenWareB favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 12 02:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks These things have escalated further since. The...' | Jun 12 03:00 | |
| schestowitz | #Infosec Reactions | Jun 12 03:05 |
| schestowitz | https://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/160811148746/how-would-you-describe-your-experience-with #security | Jun 12 03:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks These things have escalated further...' | Jun 12 03:08 | |
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| DaaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/04/brendan_eich_quits_mozilla_let_s_purge_all_the_antigay_donors_to_prop_8.html | Jun 12 03:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slate.com | Brendan Eich quits Mozilla: Let’s purge all the anti-gay donors to Prop 8. | Jun 12 03:45 | |
| DaaemonFC | I seem to recall people defending the prick. | Jun 12 03:45 |
| DaaemonFC | He put money towards a political campaign designed to deny people civil rights and was dumb enough to think that nobody would ever notice that his name and donation were public records because of campaign finance laws? | Jun 12 03:46 |
| DaaemonFC | schestowitz, Now he's in charge of a fork of Google Chrome that has no reason to exist. | Jun 12 03:47 |
| DaaemonFC | I can't imagine why anyone would use "Brave". It sounds like what Google is about to do with their "ad filter" and "Funding Choices". | Jun 12 03:48 |
| DaaemonFC | Brave had no chance. Google can boil the frog. Introduce user hostile shit a piece at a time and people will sit there and take it. | Jun 12 03:48 |
| DaaemonFC | If Widevine, Funding Choices, and booting ad blockers out of the Chrome Web Store happened at the same time, people might have noticed. | Jun 12 03:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Unfortunately, people are so used to being pissed on that they barely notice it anymore. | Jun 12 03:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Windows 10 is one giant piece of malware and people use it. | Jun 12 03:50 |
| DaaemonFC | What's one more layer of malware? | Jun 12 03:50 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm, my media player is playing Angry Chair by Alice in Chains. | Jun 12 03:56 |
| DaaemonFC | I think of Ballmer whenever I hear this. | Jun 12 03:56 |
| DaaemonFC | He managed to destroy Microsoft as a company even if people don't realize it yet. | Jun 12 03:57 |
| DaaemonFC | He could not see five feet in front of him. | Jun 12 03:57 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I looked into ZFS on Ubuntu. | Jun 12 03:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Apparently, they broke it again. | Jun 12 04:00 |
| DaaemonFC | The Wiki says not to try to install Ubuntu 17.04 to ZFS. | Jun 12 04:01 |
| DaaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1685528 | Jun 12 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1685528 “ZFS initramfs mounts dataset explicitly set not to...” : Bugs : zfs-linux package : Ubuntu | Jun 12 04:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 04:04 | |
| DaaemonFC | "Somehow the upstream initramfs zfs script got pulled in, which can break the boot process due to some funky mount overruling." | Jun 12 04:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 04:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874175754396991488 | Jun 12 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ | Jun 12 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #backdoor | Jun 12 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #https #intel | Jun 12 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ #microsoft #windows #backdoor #https #intel' | Jun 12 04:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178268286595072 | Jun 12 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i | Jun 12 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #eu #freesw #sk #slovakia #italy | Jun 12 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #uk #gds sharing | Jun 12 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i #eu #freesw...' | Jun 12 04:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178865429704704 | Jun 12 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk | Jun 12 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Older FSF/GNU/GPL News | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister @jeremycorbyn ought...' | Jun 12 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister...' | Jun 12 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk' | Jun 12 04:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874180528290836480 | Jun 12 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq | Jun 12 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism | Jun 12 04:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodi #dgplug #bsd #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 12 04:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 04:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 04:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Thinkfoundation https://twitter.com/Thinkfoundation/status/874181587608514562 | Jun 12 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The THINK! Daily! https://t.co/Up6sA039Wx | Jun 12 04:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @Anandstweets @tuxmachines | Jun 12 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The THINK! Daily | Jun 12 04:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @DaveAMontez #opengov #ict4d | Jun 12 04:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874182714383106048 | Jun 12 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, | Jun 12 04:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox Photon, and #Tor 7.0 https://t.co/aAqH7xc2H8 | Jun 12 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Browsers: Chrome 61, Mozilla Against Software Patents, Firefox Photon, and Tor 7.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #www #swpats #anonymity | Jun 12 04:35 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 04:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | I might try out XFCE in Fedora. | Jun 12 04:39 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME seems to be a little piggish. | Jun 12 04:40 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 04:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874185138418065408 | Jun 12 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk | Jun 12 04:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #RaspAnd #androido and #btrfs in | Jun 12 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android | Jun 12 04:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk #RaspAnd #androido...' | Jun 12 04:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CGS_Computers retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 04:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874186386517106693 | Jun 12 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj | Jun 12 04:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #canonical #freesw | Jun 12 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj #gnu #linux #canonical...' | Jun 12 04:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874187270529482752 | Jun 12 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 04:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations' | Jun 12 04:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874187411269443584 | Jun 12 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 12 04:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #flock #fedora #gnu #linux | Jun 12 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Tux Machines | Jun 12 04:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 04:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 04:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189415329017856 | Jun 12 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ | Jun 12 05:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 12 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189941022089216 | Jun 12 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a | Jun 12 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux #gaming | Jun 12 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 05:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 05:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbanffy favourited 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 05:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191104463310848 | Jun 12 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX | Jun 12 05:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 05:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 12 05:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | Jun 12 05:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191770791407616 | Jun 12 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 05:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 05:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, Tanglu 4 | Techrights | Jun 12 05:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX' | Jun 12 05:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyrokitteh favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 05:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874199357607882752 | Jun 12 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 06:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 06:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874204744725778433 | Jun 12 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ | Jun 12 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) #golang #google #programming | Jun 12 06:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 06:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 12 06:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 06:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 06:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @matias_baruch favourited 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 06:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874208270516465666 | Jun 12 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source | Jun 12 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | push in GeM https://t.co/ezLx6SoVc1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #india | Jun 12 06:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push...' | Jun 12 06:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lauramorelliphd favourited '#FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i #eu #freesw...' | Jun 12 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/4thdoctor_scarf/status/874209502807162880 | Jun 12 06:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers | Jun 12 06:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @4thdoctor_scarf Ditching #Debian for #Devuan https://t.co/HK01st50Fj | Jun 12 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching Debian for Devuan | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:21 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openplus #chrome | Jun 12 06:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends Quick! Buy her stuff....' | Jun 12 07:10 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/microsoft-raises-concerns-on-governments-open-source-push-in-gem-2299293.html Now that is a read and a half. | Jun 12 07:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM - Moneycontrol.com | Jun 12 07:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @luismoran favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 #android #google #linux #androido #openplus...' | Jun 12 07:40 | |
| cubexyz | horseshit | Jun 12 07:41 |
| cubexyz | M$ isn't one of the biggest contributors to "open source" | Jun 12 07:42 |
| cubexyz | they are the biggest closed source dog of them all | Jun 12 07:43 |
| cubexyz | avoid using microsoft products, that's the best advice I can give | Jun 12 07:44 |
| cubexyz | " But when you change the user-agent string of your browser on Linux to match IE or Edge, suddenly OneDrive's web code runs fine" | Jun 12 07:45 |
| cubexyz | see? same horseshit as always | Jun 12 07:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct its statement is part true over 1billion dollars a year goes into security auditing software. | Jun 12 07:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft does in fact invest a lot in open source but its open source for their own benefit. | Jun 12 07:47 |
| cubexyz | on cyber security, that doesn't necessarily mean open source | Jun 12 07:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its into a set of join USA government and industry projects that are open source. | Jun 12 07:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is because the tools have to be peer reviewed. | Jun 12 07:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft cannot trust their own staff neither can any of the other companies involved. | Jun 12 07:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: making closed source software without sold cybersecurity is not going to work right if other parties can break in and steal the source code. | Jun 12 07:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of it this way Microsoft does not trust it own security software as a black box yet it sells closed source software. Now this is really the pot calling the kettle black right. | Jun 12 07:56 |
| MinceR | m$ never cared about security, though | Jun 12 07:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when it comes to their own data yes. | Jun 12 08:00 |
| MinceR | or anyone's | Jun 12 08:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie Microsoft cares about security when it there own stuff. When it anyone else they don't give a stuff. | Jun 12 08:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that is backed by where Microsoft invests the money. | Jun 12 08:01 |
| MinceR | then they're just incompetent | Jun 12 08:02 |
| cubexyz | M$ cares about lock-in and $$$ | Jun 12 08:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 1 billion dollars in cybersecurity that does not end up shipped in any of their own products. | Jun 12 08:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes cybersecurity to protect their $$$ | Jun 12 08:02 |
| cubexyz | what microsoft did to scanners and printers was criminal | Jun 12 08:03 |
| cubexyz | influencing harware like that | Jun 12 08:03 |
| cubexyz | I don't recall DEC doing that | Jun 12 08:03 |
| cubexyz | hardware | Jun 12 08:03 |
| cubexyz | then this secure boot crap happend | Jun 12 08:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, they love wasting money and bragging about it | Jun 12 08:05 |
| MinceR | and at the end their products and services are still all atrocious | Jun 12 08:05 |
| cubexyz | when I heard people say "oh, it's time for a giant windows 10 update, I can't use my computer for hours" I knew that was the end | Jun 12 08:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if they sold proper solid products where would be the upgrade treadmill. | Jun 12 08:06 |
| cubexyz | people _expect_ things to be shitty now | Jun 12 08:06 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/jNf8pa8.png (html: https://imgur.com/jNf8pa8 ) | Jun 12 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch fuckup assessment form - Imgur | Jun 12 08:06 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dunno, but sounds like it's worth a try | Jun 12 08:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i have yet to see perfect products on that scale. | Jun 12 08:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the mil grade drone control software. Its insanely bug free. | Jun 12 08:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/luismoran/status/874229949724594176 | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @luismoran (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #androido | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openplus #chrome | Jun 12 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 08:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874239305224519681 | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | what it replaces https://t.co/sV8Q4EHmpo | Jun 12 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux inside. | Jun 12 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than what it replaces | Tux Machines | Jun 12 08:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more...' | Jun 12 08:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks As of the 9th of June, for...' | Jun 12 08:24 | |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/7N9c0L5drak https://youtu.be/HPJtF5yGx6A | Jun 12 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Задержания на Марсовом поле 12 июня - YouTube | Jun 12 08:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Около 300 человек уже задержаны в Петербурге на Марсовом поле - YouTube | Jun 12 08:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Today's an interesting day in Russia, as predicted. | Jun 12 08:39 |
| XRevan86 | The anti-corruption meeting on the Field of Mars in St. Petersburg. | Jun 12 08:40 |
| MinceR | government deceit is interesting? :> | Jun 12 08:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe I'm biased :) | Jun 12 08:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 12 08:43 |
| XRevan86 | If I would've been a better citizen, I'd be there, on the Field of Mars. | Jun 12 08:43 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this is the biggest anti-institutional event in Russia since 2011 | Jun 12 08:44 |
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| XRevan86 | And the regime is more concerned than ever before. | Jun 12 08:45 |
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| XRevan86 | The leader of this whole thing Aleksey Navalny was apprehended at the entry of his apartment earlier today. | Jun 12 08:48 |
| MinceR | oh, a protest | Jun 12 08:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many people putler will have killed | Jun 12 08:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/meeting/protest/ oops :) | Jun 12 08:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: killed?… | Jun 12 08:51 |
| XRevan86 | Today's Russia Day, BTW. | Jun 12 08:53 |
| XRevan86 | A person I know just came from the protest (on the Field of Mars), he says everything went relatively calm except for people who were trying to get on the monument. | Jun 12 09:07 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's better to wait for better, more complete, news about the whole thing… | Jun 12 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | instead of Breaking News :) | Jun 12 09:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks As of the 9th of...' | Jun 12 09:19 | |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: what do you make of the famous arrest today? | Jun 12 14:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust the BBC much... | Jun 12 14:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was kind of expected. | Jun 12 14:12 |
| XRevan86 | Not the first time/ | Jun 12 14:13 |
| XRevan86 | What does BBC write about it? | Jun 12 14:13 |
| XRevan86 | If I understood it right, the government sanctioned the demonstration on Sakharova prospect but sound system providers refused to provide for the demostration, saying they are being threatened | Jun 12 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | so Navalny decided to make the demonstration on a better, but not santioned place – Tverskaya street. | Jun 12 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | So he was probably taken by attempting to make an unsanctioned demostration, which apparently counts as extremism %) | Jun 12 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874330405486211072 | Jun 12 14:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 14:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 14:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 14:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Mobile Navigator App Released for Tizen-based Samsung Z1, Z2, Z3 and Z4 - Tizen Experts | Jun 12 14:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m #linux' | Jun 12 14:20 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... 1/3 of world overweight | Jun 12 14:29 |
| *XRevan86 reads: for an administrative punishment by laws "Secondary violation of demonstration organisation rules" and "Disobidience of lawful orders of a police officer" | Jun 12 14:30 | |
| XRevan86 | for that Navalny will either get a fine of 20 000 rubles, mandatory labour for 40 hours or 10 days arrest | Jun 12 14:31 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What is? | Jun 12 14:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg and here's the photo of the arrest. | Jun 12 14:34 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/se-1.jpg | Jun 12 14:36 |
| cubexyz | a third of the population of humans on earth are fat :) | Jun 12 14:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Huh, I didn't realise there are so many first world people | Jun 12 14:38 |
| MinceR | patience, they're working on it | Jun 12 14:39 |
| XRevan86 | And… a third? | Jun 12 14:40 |
| XRevan86 | When I walk on streets, I barely see any | Jun 12 14:40 |
| XRevan86 | How fat are the UK and US really? | Jun 12 14:41 |
| MinceR | here's that photo in higher resolution: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg:orig | Jun 12 14:42 |
| MinceR | the roof of that tiny building is really weird | Jun 12 14:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/874330528723480576 | Jun 12 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 14:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @verfassungklage (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 14:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like they are...' | Jun 12 14:43 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Huh, now that you mentioned it, WTF is that building? | Jun 12 14:43 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like...' | Jun 12 14:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Educate yourself, Donnie. I know it's hard...' | Jun 12 14:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Dark humour on dark energy from a...' | Jun 12 14:44 | |
| cubexyz | Samoa, Tonga and Kiribati are 80% overweight | Jun 12 14:44 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i guess it's a public toilet | Jun 12 14:44 |
| MinceR | possibly for a single person at a time | Jun 12 14:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-in-the-world.html | Jun 12 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-29 Most Obese Countries In The World - WorldAtlas.com [ http://ur1.ca/qzqfs ] | Jun 12 14:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not a logical place for that | Jun 12 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | Most of the people passing that building by would be able to use the loo at their own homes because are living in the local building. | Jun 12 14:46 |
| cubexyz | evidently there's tons of fast food places in pacific island nations | Jun 12 14:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: entrance to FSB black site | Jun 12 14:47 |
| MinceR | ...disguised as public toilet | Jun 12 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | or a solitary confinement conviniently placed right next to the place Navalny lives in | Jun 12 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | "in times of uncertainty place your Navalny in the box until the police officers arrive" | Jun 12 14:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/28/bofh_2017_episode_6/ | Jun 12 14:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back • The Register | Jun 12 14:50 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Lc7pesU.jpg | Jun 12 15:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Dark humour on dark energy...' | Jun 12 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874341740974673920 | Jun 12 15:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Jun 12 15:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a8KmYHDGjp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Tux Machines | Jun 12 15:05 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfTPlsIq7d0 | Jun 12 15:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874341913687666688 | Jun 12 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Jun 12 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/a8KmYHDGjp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 16:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @Cabinet You have become another...' | Jun 12 17:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874379735245217793 | Jun 12 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf | Jun 12 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux | Jun 12 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 17:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf #android #google #linux' | Jun 12 17:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf #android #google #linux' | Jun 12 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874381733134827520 | Jun 12 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV | Jun 12 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iot #device #gnu #sbc | Jun 12 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No lack of Linux IoT projects | Tux Machines | Jun 12 17:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 17:45 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/12jun2017/navalny_sud.html Navalny will get a month of an administrative arrest. | Jun 12 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Суд вынес приговор Алексею Навальному | Jun 12 17:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @roomeezon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 17:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 17:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874382982479532036 | Jun 12 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Jun 12 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU (www.tuxmachines.org) #wifi | Jun 12 17:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #arduiuno #multiloop #ERASynth | Jun 12 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 12 17:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source RF signal generator features WiFi https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU...' | Jun 12 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874385000023642112 | Jun 12 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch | Jun 12 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Jun 12 17:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lzrwccWWZo (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 17:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Makers of the $249 Litebook Linux laptop launch mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Tux Machines | Jun 12 17:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch...' | Jun 12 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874385598559203330 | Jun 12 18:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | We can now detect recurrent events in #GNOMECalendar | Jun 12 18:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 12 18:47 |
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| cubexyz | ok, if you are running a computer older than 2005 you don't have Intel ME | Jun 12 19:16 |
| cubexyz | probably up to 2007 is also safe | Jun 12 19:16 |
| cubexyz | it wasn't until 2005 that intel started the funny business with ethernet controllers | Jun 12 19:17 |
| cubexyz | I'm not clear on how it can intercept TCP/IP traffic when the computer is suspended | Jun 12 19:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 2005 and before it could be hiding in a network card | Jun 12 19:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: controller that could keybord video mouse appears 2001. | Jun 12 19:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: network controllers that should have been. | Jun 12 19:26 |
| cubexyz | that sounds more like a KVM switch | Jun 12 19:28 |
| cubexyz | or KVM over IP (which I definitely do not have) | Jun 12 19:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: what I am refering to is network cards. | Jun 12 19:30 |
| cubexyz | give me some examples | Jun 12 19:31 |
| oiaohm | The most powerful example is https://www.uxd.com/phdpci2.shtml | Jun 12 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uxd.com | P.H.D. PCI 2 - Professional Hardware Diagnostics PCI | Jun 12 19:31 | |
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| oiaohm | It scary how much can be controlled from PCI bus back into system. | Jun 12 19:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_memory_management_unit in the chipset before vt-d your PCI bus can do what ever it likes. | Jun 12 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Input–output memory management unit - Wikipedia | Jun 12 19:35 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so from 1992 until the introduction of vt-d a ME like chip could be hidden in any PCI card with a powerful enough cpu. | Jun 12 19:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: even before PCI there were major bus security issues. | Jun 12 19:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically general PC was not designed for security. | Jun 12 19:38 |
| cubexyz | before vt-d? | Jun 12 19:41 |
| MinceR | and during and after vt-d | Jun 12 19:43 |
| MinceR | at least you can remove PCI cards and use the system without a particular card | Jun 12 19:43 |
| cubexyz | oh, I get it | Jun 12 19:46 |
| cubexyz | "Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O" | Jun 12 19:46 |
| cubexyz | when did that first appear? | Jun 12 19:48 |
| cubexyz | seems to be a x86 virtualization thing | Jun 12 19:49 |
| MinceR | after plain vt-x | Jun 12 19:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, so Pentium 4 era... around 2005 | Jun 12 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874397713856700422 | Jun 12 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Jun 12 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 12 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 12 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu & UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Tux Machines | Jun 12 19:54 | |
| cubexyz | don't think I have that | Jun 12 19:54 |
| oiaohm | 2007 is when vt-d first appears. | Jun 12 19:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when you get old enough to avoid me in the motherboard you are also old enough that you don't have protection from pci cards. | Jun 12 19:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically stuffed either way. | Jun 12 19:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember the one with firewire card accessing all of memory. | Jun 12 19:56 |
| cubexyz | so what computer should I use? | Jun 12 19:56 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/carmaa/inception open source version of memory mugging. | Jun 12 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - carmaa/inception: Inception is a physical memory manipulation and hacking tool exploiting PCI-based DMA. The tool can attack over FireWire, Thunderbolt, ExpressCard, PC Card and any other PCI/PCIe interfaces. | Jun 12 19:57 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't have a recommendation. PC desktop/Server systems I have looked at have major design issues. | Jun 12 19:58 |
| oiaohm | Even arm devices in phones and the like can be lacking vt-d stuff this is how come the broadcom wifi attack recently against iphone and many android devices worked so well. | Jun 12 19:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sopanx/status/874472265408106496 | Jun 12 23:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @sopanx Environment Instead of #LXDE https://t.co/HS73NzpNpJ | Jun 12 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #zorin #zorinos #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 12 23:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Beta Adopts Xfce as Default Desktop Environment Instead of LXDE | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:47 | |
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| DaaemonFC | https://blogs.igalia.com/carlosgc/2017/03/20/webkitgtk-2-16/ | Jun 12 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | WebKitGTK+ 2.16 | Carlos Garcia Campos | Jun 12 23:54 | |
| DaaemonFC | "The overlay can be shown/hidden by pressing CTRL+Shit+G." | Jun 12 23:55 |
| DaaemonFC | *giggles* | Jun 12 23:55 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#Tanglu 4 #GNU #Linux Distro Released with #UEFI...' | Jun 13 00:14 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/plRwrlT.png | Jun 13 01:07 |
| MinceR | i don't have a Shit key :( | Jun 13 01:07 |
| MinceR | 12 072021 < MinceR> 12 012605 < DaaemonFC> MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 13 01:08 |
| MinceR | 12 072024 < MinceR> so's failfox | Jun 13 01:08 |
| MinceR | 12 072100 < MinceR> mozilla just keeps making it worse and worse | Jun 13 01:08 |
| MinceR | and ZFS is probably just as illegal on Linux as ever :> | Jun 13 01:08 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, If they're lucky, Oracle won't bother to sue them over it. | Jun 13 01:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Their lawyers are using the same argument that proprietary driver vendors do. | Jun 13 01:14 |
| MinceR | most of them don't sue users of their software, though | Jun 13 01:16 |
| schestowitz | morning... | Jun 13 01:19 |
| MinceR | moaning | Jun 13 01:22 |
| schestowitz | that's what she did | Jun 13 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874497002553438208 | Jun 13 01:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #OculusRift CV1 on #GNU #Linux, #Geneshift, The | Jun 13 01:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UndergroundKing, #XCOM 2 and More | Jun 13 01:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XSLqllxU0b (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 13 01:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 13 01:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Oculus Rift CV1 on GNU/Linux, Geneshift, The Underground King, XCOM 2 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 13 01:23 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 13 01:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874504489637642240 | Jun 13 01:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu #Graphics and #Snappy Improvements | Jun 13 01:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fi9Tbs1jVX (www.tuxmachines.org) #snap | Jun 13 01:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 13 01:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Graphics and Snappy Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 13 01:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu #Graphics and #Snappy Improvements https://t.co/fi9Tbs1jVX #snap #canonical...' | Jun 13 01:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874507828010119169 | Jun 13 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux in Cars https://t.co/WqF94tvWjz | Jun 13 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tesla #toyota | Jun 13 02:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux in Cars | Tux Machines | Jun 13 02:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux in Cars https://t.co/WqF94tvWjz #tesla #toyota' | Jun 13 02:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874508431960539136 | Jun 13 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows Protocols (Samba) and Cryptocurrency | Jun 13 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i6r3x88oxt (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 13 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #smb #nsa #samba #security #wannacry | Jun 13 02:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Protocols (Samba) and Cryptocurrency | Tux Machines | Jun 13 02:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 02:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake of #WannaCry | Jun 13 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B34GhbLooT (www.tuxmachines.org) #india | Jun 13 02:16 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://www.freetype.org/patents.html | Jun 13 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freetype.org | FreeType and Patents | Jun 13 02:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874512314556403712 | Jun 13 02:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04, Ships with | Jun 13 02:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MATE 1.18 and Linux 4.11 https://t.co/uMOUnv5Rz0 | Jun 13 02:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 02:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Is Now Based on Ubuntu 17.04, Ships with MATE 1.18 and Linux 4.11 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 02:24 | |
| DaaemonFC | Steve Gibson says that the MS Cleartype patents are invalid, but that's the same guy that got hacked by a twelve year old and wrote an essay about it. | Jun 13 02:24 |
| MinceR | cleartype sucks ass anyway | Jun 13 02:25 |
| MinceR | unavoidable colorful fringes everywhere | Jun 13 02:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Cleartype patents apparently expire in 2019 since they were approved in 1999. | Jun 13 02:28 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I use the freetype-freeworld package on Fedora and configure it to use the patented subpixel rendering. | Jun 13 02:30 |
| DaaemonFC | It looks a lot better than Cleartype. | Jun 13 02:30 |
| MinceR | i disable subpixel hinting | Jun 13 02:30 |
| MinceR | it not only looks flawless as it is, but stays that way even when zoomed | Jun 13 02:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04,...' | Jun 13 02:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning Live CD Updated with Linux | Jun 13 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.11.4, ZFS on Linux https://t.co/nwvHZ7QjGU | Jun 13 02:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 02:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parted Magic Disk Partitioning Live CD Updated with Linux 4.11.4, ZFS on Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 13 02:37 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/blob/master/COPYRIGHT zfs kernel driver on Linux is a define of a legal head ache. Some place it will be legal other places not so much. | Jun 13 02:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zfs/COPYRIGHT at master · zfsonlinux/zfs · GitHub | Jun 13 02:50 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: zfs kernel module depending on the not derivative work to stand and this also means it contains duplication to parts the Linux kernel has other solutions to. | Jun 13 02:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @DigestWordpress https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG (www.tuxmachines.org) #cms | Jun 13 03:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 13 03:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874536643298037760 | Jun 13 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Jun 13 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oFpdSL6bIE (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 13 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rhel #gnu #linux | Jun 13 04:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available...' | Jun 13 04:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874538463646953472 | Jun 13 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 13 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 04:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874538484555546624 | Jun 13 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA | Jun 13 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #bbm #blackberyr | Jun 13 04:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #androidauto #nokia | Jun 13 04:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 04:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA #android #google #bbm #blackberyr #androidauto...' | Jun 13 04:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 04:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/874539331318300672 | Jun 13 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake of #WannaCry | Jun 13 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://t.co/B34GhbLooT (www.tuxmachines.org) #india | Jun 13 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Thiruvananthapuram | Jun 13 04:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indians Migrate to GNU/Linux in the Wake of WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SecurityNews6 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 04:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 04:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874539855052722177 | Jun 13 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor | Jun 13 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dvLOONE4n3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 13 04:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Pomodoro, Stacer, UDisks, Qtractor | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfoSecurity99 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 04:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor https://t.co/dvLOONE4n3 #freesw' | Jun 13 04:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 04:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/874544686618345472 | Jun 13 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 13 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 05:26 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @CooksCeramics favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 06:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet...' | Jun 13 06:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet bowl, switch...' | Jun 13 06:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@paKTusa @realDonaldTrump There is a lot more to...' | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You should be banned from the US...' | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg | Jun 13 06:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You should be banned from...' | Jun 13 07:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #trump does not even seem to know...' | Jun 13 07:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks #trump does not even seem...' | Jun 13 07:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874594178466021376 | Jun 13 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 13 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 07:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874594705929113600 | Jun 13 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 07:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s' | Jun 13 07:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > Gnome Pomodoro – A Timer to Help Increase Your Productivity | Jun 13 07:54 |
| XRevan86 | I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 07:54 |
| XRevan86 | not sure how time tracking is related to tomatoes | Jun 13 07:55 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 13 08:09 |
| MinceR | it's a method involving what was originally a tomato-shaped kitchen timer | Jun 13 08:09 |
| MinceR | i don't like it because it's rigid as hell | Jun 13 08:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, the timer's shape was very important to the method's author | Jun 13 08:11 |
| MinceR | or they were at a loss for a better name | Jun 13 08:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874595061023088641 | Jun 13 08:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 08:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 08:31 |
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| schestowitz | [12:54] <XRevan86> I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 08:32 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 13 08:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS' | Jun 13 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS | Jun 13 08:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS' | Jun 13 08:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Now at stage 4, Donnie, you are...' | Jun 13 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874610357200990209 | Jun 13 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake news. | Jun 13 08:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your hypocrisy is showing... | Jun 13 08:52 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump By the way, incorrected is not a...' | Jun 13 08:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake...' | Jun 13 08:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the law by...' | Jun 13 08:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the...' | Jun 13 09:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And your family uses your new position...' | Jun 13 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any jobs. You...' | Jun 13 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any...' | Jun 13 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625240080539648 | Jun 13 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Jun 13 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ahKUScDYyR (www.tuxmachines.org) #ksa | Jun 13 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #saudiArabia #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 13 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625553998938112 | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zRxvXMRHqv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security | Jun 13 09:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC...' | Jun 13 09:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 09:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874627020801572865 | Jun 13 09:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 09:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 09:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own incompetence on...' | Jun 13 09:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own...' | Jun 13 10:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise "life and...' | Jun 13 10:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise...' | Jun 13 10:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04,...' | Jun 13 10:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 13 10:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 13 10:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874628724175581186 | Jun 13 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News/Apps https://t.co/dPkIcUzMEd | Jun 13 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News/Apps | Tux Machines | Jun 13 10:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tizen News/Apps https://t.co/dPkIcUzMEd #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux' | Jun 13 10:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630209298989057 | Jun 13 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 | Jun 13 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace | Jun 13 10:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 10:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630770677166080 | Jun 13 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/61H4vbl5Fk | Jun 13 10:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 10:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 10:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 10:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 10:14 | |
| cubexyz | never realized this existed: | Jun 13 10:21 |
| cubexyz | http://segaretro.org/Mega_PC | Jun 13 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segaretro.org | Mega PC | Jun 13 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/corbyn_man/status/874630985454891010 | Jun 13 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @corbyn_man (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 10:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 10:22 | |
| cubexyz | and there's teradrives on ebay | Jun 13 10:24 |
| cubexyz | quite expensive | Jun 13 10:24 |
| cubexyz | NOS one is $6K Can | Jun 13 10:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874632956513587204 | Jun 13 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 13 10:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd ...' | Jun 13 10:33 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_TeraDrive one of these? | Jun 13 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sega TeraDrive - Wikipedia | Jun 13 10:35 | |
| cubexyz | yes, that's it | Jun 13 10:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that thing was a super odd ball with 3 different CPUs. | Jun 13 10:45 |
| MinceR | what did it use the z80 for? | Jun 13 10:48 |
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| cubexyz | for sound | Jun 13 11:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/874522092024320000 | Jun 13 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 11:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 11:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/874392638723694592 | Jun 13 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @Sheikh_al_Touar @DavidBrooke_IP @WorldIPReview @ipwatch @patentbuddy @Twpalovi @Wikinaut No honest one, that is. T… https://t.co/7bRvURqJ11 | Jun 13 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | "No honest one, that is. Trolls and speculators are gleefully feeding on it without remorse making millions." | Jun 13 11:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/874635838902108161 | Jun 13 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 12:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 12:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874682871511908352 | Jun 13 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights | Jun 13 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3KRrYTBIbE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 13:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 13 13:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683274546880512 | Jun 13 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 | Jun 13 13:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #nokia #lg #india #linux | Jun 13 13:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683786377789441 | Jun 13 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, | Jun 13 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Not Code https://t.co/RoaEYzAtAB (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 13:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #freedom #foss | Jun 13 13:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, Not Code | Tux Machines | Jun 13 13:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 #android #nokia #lg #india #linux' | Jun 13 13:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 #android #nokia #lg #india #linux' | Jun 13 13:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about...' | Jun 13 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874684567717908484 | Jun 13 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on #Flipkart at | Jun 13 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a discount https://t.co/OXW6f07gDN (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 13:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874684900594655233 | Jun 13 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With #NVIDIA | Jun 13 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | / #Radeon #Graphics On #Linux https://t.co/rbiD0u0nPC | Jun 13 13:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 13 13:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With NVIDIA/Radeon Graphics On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 13 13:54 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance...' | Jun 13 13:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874687636190920704 | Jun 13 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu | Jun 13 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X6LdW7krCV (tuxmachines.org) #canonical #gnu | Jun 13 14:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 13 14:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Amazon Greengrass launches as a snap on Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874688054186958848 | Jun 13 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Jun 13 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YGPUafoCle (tuxmachines.org) #fedora #redhat | Jun 13 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu...' | Jun 13 14:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Says it all... https://t.co/pCvMMEiWfR | Jun 13 14:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874691417679028224 | Jun 13 14:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights | Jun 13 14:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874701950994042881 | Jun 13 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874702073513861125 | Jun 13 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DCqA7ZTJQ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 13 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gaming | Jun 13 14:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Time for him to leave, after that...' | Jun 13 14:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874703466018504705 | Jun 13 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B | Jun 13 15:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 15:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging Release 2.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B #wine #freesw...' | Jun 13 15:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874709405274648578 | Jun 13 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Jun 13 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 13 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 13 15:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeUM1WDoOGY | Jun 13 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Do Cats Miaow? - Cats Uncovered - BBC - YouTube | Jun 13 15:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR...' | Jun 13 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874712300950892546 | Jun 13 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera. | Jun 13 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r0T8l28NXb (www.cinema5d.com) "actual | Jun 13 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating system of the camera are still under | Jun 13 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development." | Jun 13 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cinema5d.com | NO TITLE | Jun 13 15:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera....' | Jun 13 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713115002380288 | Jun 13 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available | Jun 13 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz (www.phoronix.com) still my main | Jun 13 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | browser. Not ideal freedom-wise, but better than most | Jun 13 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | technically. | Jun 13 15:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla Firefox 54 Now Available - Phoronix | Jun 13 15:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713607296233472 | Jun 13 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky after | Jun 13 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapping Linux for Windows in Munich too risky after WannaCry attacks, warn Greens | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz still my...' | Jun 13 15:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 15:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbonifaz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 15:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874714739309518849 | Jun 13 16:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 16:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874721311569973249 | Jun 13 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpha Offers Core #i7 Centurion Laptop Running #GNU | Jun 13 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux for $429 https://t.co/fVEHRSikdn | Jun 13 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #elementaryOS #litebox | Jun 13 16:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Linux for $429 https://t.co/fVEHRSikdn | Jun 13 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #elementaryOS #litebox | Jun 13 16:44 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Now every job is a desirable one....' | Jun 13 16:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874735463034212352 | Jun 13 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top 5 #Ubuntu Themes Of The Month https://t.co/vcrJqijTg8 | Jun 13 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Ubuntu Themes Of The Month | Tux Machines | Jun 13 17:11 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Top 5 #Ubuntu Themes Of The Month https://t.co/vcrJqijTg8...' | Jun 13 17:15 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:03 | |
| DaaemonFC | I do wonder why Devuan chose to go back to SysVInit. | Jun 13 18:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Yuck. | Jun 13 18:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Maybe they could have adopted Upstart. | Jun 13 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Definitely not upstart | Jun 13 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | but maybe OpenRC :) | Jun 13 18:06 |
| DaaemonFC | SysVInit is not really for a modern computer where running things in parallel happen, lots of hardware events, etc. | Jun 13 18:06 |
| DaaemonFC | Also, systemd did solve a few real problems. | Jun 13 18:06 |
| DaaemonFC | Such as processes forking and escaping the control of init. | Jun 13 18:06 |
| DaaemonFC | That's kind of a bad one. | Jun 13 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Yeah, Devuan should go for systemd. Wait… | Jun 13 18:07 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, they can do what they want to do, but I can't imagine that the upstream for SysVInit is very active anymore, and it has problems which aren't ever going to be fixed. | Jun 13 18:27 |
| DaaemonFC | That being said, nobody has to use Devuan. | Jun 13 18:27 |
| DaaemonFC | I don't really feel like going back in time 10 years and having my desktop do unpredictable crap because I plugged in a flash drive. | Jun 13 18:28 |
| DaaemonFC | XRevan86, The upstream has been on the same version for 7 years. | Jun 13 18:32 |
| DaaemonFC | It's the new Grub 0.97. | Jun 13 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | > and having my desktop do unpredictable crap because I plugged in a flash drive | Jun 13 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Devuan uses udev, of course. | Jun 13 18:32 |
| DaaemonFC | Meh, I'll probably stick with Fedora. | Jun 13 18:37 |
| DaaemonFC | It usually "Just Works". | Jun 13 18:37 |
| DaaemonFC | The only part where I need to get directy involved is when it comes to setting up things that they can't legally include due to patents and such. | Jun 13 18:37 |
| DaaemonFC | I can't imagine that Devuan escapes those problems. | Jun 13 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: http://deb-multimedia.org/ | Jun 13 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deb-multimedia.org | Deb Multimedia Packages::Home | Jun 13 18:39 | |
| XRevan86 | Official Debian repos are more loose with patents than openSUSE and Fedora though. Not sure why. | Jun 13 18:40 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, I know of Debian Multimedia. | Jun 13 18:40 |
| DaaemonFC | I briefly used Debian for a while. | Jun 13 18:40 |
| DaaemonFC | It was a pain in the ass to set up at the time I tried it. | Jun 13 18:40 |
| DaaemonFC | That was a while ago. I think it might have been Debian 6. | Jun 13 18:41 |
| DaaemonFC | They probably got better. I don't know. | Jun 13 18:41 |
| DaaemonFC | The packages are almost always too old for my taste. | Jun 13 18:41 |
| DaaemonFC | Especially the kernel. | Jun 13 18:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Even Debian 9 is sticking with the 4.9 kernel, which has lingering issues with Skylake. | Jun 13 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: It's freezed, so… | Jun 13 18:42 |
| XRevan86 | Although I should point out https://packages.siduction.org/ and https://liquorix.net/ | Jun 13 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.siduction.org | Siduction Repositories - the community based OS - Repositories | Jun 13 18:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liquorix.net | Liquorix Kernel | Jun 13 18:43 | |
| DaaemonFC | I'd have to use something based on Testing or Sid. | Jun 13 18:44 |
| DaaemonFC | I know that a lot of people just install Testing and use it as a rolling release and it *usually* works fine. | Jun 13 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Shouldn't be a problem for a Fedora user :) | Jun 13 18:44 |
| DaaemonFC | By the time the packages make it to Testing, they're normally okay. | Jun 13 18:44 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora is probably comparable to Debian Testing. | Jun 13 18:45 |
| DaaemonFC | Rawhide is pretty much Sid. | Jun 13 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | And if you're only into a new kernel, liquorix can deliver even without having the whole Debian testing | Jun 13 18:45 |
| DaaemonFC | RHEL would be like Debian Stable. | Jun 13 18:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: No, that analogy is not very good… | Jun 13 18:46 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, even Fedora sticks with some packages throughout the release. | Jun 13 18:46 |
| DaaemonFC | The GNOME package group for instance, spare minor updates. | Jun 13 18:47 |
| DaaemonFC | But KDE gets major versions. | Jun 13 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Same as in openSUSE I see. | Jun 13 18:47 |
| DaaemonFC | KDE is a spin, so different rules apply. | Jun 13 18:47 |
| DaaemonFC | The spins can do whatever they want as long as it's an isolated change (Only their SIG's packages, not the core OS.). | Jun 13 18:47 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME is considered core. | Jun 13 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: It's probably due to new GNOME requiring new GTK+ and GLib | Jun 13 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | and new autotools, gettext, etc. | Jun 13 18:48 |
| DaaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 13 18:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874762809632063493 | Jun 13 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tails 3.0 Anonymous Operating System Officially | Jun 13 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Based on #Debian 9 https://t.co/iAzILyfyIt | Jun 13 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tor #anonymity #gnu #linux | Jun 13 18:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Operating System Officially Released, Based on Debian 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874769990641225728 | Jun 13 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ufd78da4lx | Jun 13 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wannacry #ssh #raspi #nsa #ddos | Jun 13 19:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874771826244800513 | Jun 13 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chrome 60 Beta, New #Firefox, #Thunderbird Themes | Jun 13 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HFdgkl3cHl (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla | Jun 13 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #google #www #email #freesw | Jun 13 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome 60 Beta, New Firefox, Thunderbird Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chrome 60 Beta, New #Firefox, #Thunderbird Themes https://t.co/HFdgkl3cHl...' | Jun 13 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874772879841390596 | Jun 13 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo | Jun 13 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #foss #libreoffice | Jun 13 19:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openforge #mit #germany #python | Jun 13 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874773678898253824 | Jun 13 19:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More Android Leftovers https://t.co/E2j43c8PgG | Jun 13 19:42 |
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| DaaemonFC | Ugh. Well, Fedora 26 Beta is out. Still defaults to Wayland. Wayland still sucks for games. | Jun 14 00:45 |
| DaaemonFC | XWayland is obviously not an answer for anything that needs performance. | Jun 14 00:45 |
| DaaemonFC | I hope they keep the GNOME on Xorg session around for a while. | Jun 14 00:46 |
| DaaemonFC | At this rate it will take years for Wayland to be more than a curiosity for people who have real applications to run. | Jun 14 00:46 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: the benchmarks on XWayland does not show really that much performance overhead. | Jun 14 00:47 |
| DaaemonFC | Bullshit it's not high overhead. | Jun 14 00:49 |
| DaaemonFC | For one thing, you lose about 20-30% on the average framerate on the benchmark, which is significant, but then the game is unplayable because Wayland doesn't allow it to drop frames. | Jun 14 00:50 |
| DaaemonFC | So if it's too late to render something, the game just freezes up as it tries to recover the missing frame and then you lose 20 more. | Jun 14 00:50 |
| DaaemonFC | It's completely stupid, and that's before the touch problems that XWayland has. | Jun 14 00:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Want to know if an app is running on XWayland or Wayland? Try dragging it by the title bar or pressing one of the title bar buttons with your finger. | Jun 14 00:51 |
| DaaemonFC | If it doesn't respond at all, it's XWayland. | Jun 14 00:52 |
| DaaemonFC | I'm staying on Xorg until they get this mess sorted out. | Jun 14 00:52 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland does not forbid dropping frames | Jun 14 00:53 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-24-Alpha-Game-Tests the more recent tests has the lost between 10% and nothing. | Jun 14 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Alpha X.Org vs. (X)Wayland Gaming Tests - Phoronix | Jun 14 00:55 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so difference between Xwayland and X.org on native hardware has been reducing quite a bit. | Jun 14 00:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: http://gstreamer-bugs.narkive.com/I0oj9ZYx/bug-740803-new-waylandsink-double-check-the-frame-callback-before-dropping-frames you are right that frame droppinng method being different causes some problems. | Jun 14 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gstreamer-bugs.narkive.com | [Bug 740803] New: waylandsink: Double-check the frame callback before dropping frames [ http://ur1.ca/qzxp7 ] | Jun 14 01:03 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland protocol it self contains a command to drop a frame already send to the output stream if possible this is locking and high overhead. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | I tried to make a reply to Phoronix about Firefox 54. I think it's in moderation because of a new account. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | I wrote: | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox doesn't support Wayland. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | It doesn't do multi-process very well. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | (By default, but many distros turn this off.) it installs proprietary software that not even Mozilla can fix when there is a security problem, without explaining the implications to the user. (Widevine) | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | It still has the bug where if you apply a dark GTK+ theme, the color scheme in Firefox goes horribly wrong and many forms can't be used.....15 years later. Although I hear a fix is in for Firefox 55. I'll believe it when I see it. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME Web is cleaner, faster, and has the good stuff (libhttpseverywhere, ad blocking, tracker blocking, etc.) on and enabled by default and has obliterated the preference mess and the cross-platform compromises that Firefox makes, along with Firefox's completely third-rate Linux support. Mozilla clearly doesn't see Linux as a priority platform. We often go several releases before we get the same features that Windows users get. Sick of | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | it. Sick of it. Sick of it.... | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox on my computer is a backup web browser, and thankfully I don't have to mess with it very often. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Mozilla wonders why their users are abandoning them. It's because they abandoned their users. | Jun 14 01:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Also, their new website looks dodgy af. :) | Jun 14 01:04 |
| oiaohm | Firefox runs straight into that gstreamer one. | Jun 14 01:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox has devolved into a mess. A complete mess. | Jun 14 01:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes wayland provides means to pull a frame off the output que. That is something you should avoid doing. | Jun 14 01:06 |
| oiaohm | By only putting completed frames on output que. | Jun 14 01:06 |
| DaaemonFC | The last release that was any good was the 3.6 branch. | Jun 14 01:06 |
| oiaohm | That way you can drop without performance hit. | Jun 14 01:06 |
| oiaohm | wayland automatically skips forwards on the output que. | Jun 14 01:07 |
| oiaohm | So there has been a issue doing X11 behavours on wayland. | Jun 14 01:08 |
| DaaemonFC | The whole system seems to perform better on X. | Jun 14 01:12 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: that is not the case. | Jun 14 01:12 |
| DaaemonFC | I don't see why they would remove the X11 option anytime soon. They need almost the whole stack to do XWayland anyway. | Jun 14 01:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland when used correctly results in lower memory usage. | Jun 14 01:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: turns out bad performing routes X11 does are also bad for X11 ram usage. | Jun 14 01:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Firefox 54 in developer builds there is wayland version. | Jun 14 01:14 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: correction most of the bad performing routes under Xwayland turns out to be also bad for X11 native in ram usage. So should be fixed anyhow. | Jun 14 01:16 |
| DaaemonFC | oiaohm, Do LTS kernels get new hardware support? | Jun 14 01:34 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: the answer is LTS revision numbers do and more hardware support. Not always everything in latest release. | Jun 14 01:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: new bit of hardware might depend on a structure that putting in LTS risks breaking everything so that would not end up in LTS. | Jun 14 01:36 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so where is sane is added to the LTS. | Jun 14 01:37 |
| DaaemonFC | So if there were problems getting my laptop to work with the early 4.9 kernels or missing drivers for wifi and touchpad, that might be resolved? | Jun 14 01:38 |
| DaaemonFC | I suppose I'll check out Debian 9 in a live environment. | Jun 14 01:39 |
| DaaemonFC | I wonder if they have everything set up or still make you spend hours doing it yourself. At the time of Squeeze, I was horrified to see a distribution that had me install a desktop OS without Pulseaudio. | Jun 14 01:40 |
| DaaemonFC | Then when I did configure it, it wasn't working very well. | Jun 14 01:40 |
| DaaemonFC | By the time it was, I couldn't tell you what I had done. | Jun 14 01:40 |
| oiaohm | wifi could be the next LTS. There are changes in the wifi stack required for some cards. The touchpad there has been no major changes in that area of structure so should get backported once mainline kernel supports it. | Jun 14 01:42 |
| DaaemonFC | oiaohm, I know that Fedora 25 didn't detect my wifi chipset in the original live environment. | Jun 14 01:43 |
| DaaemonFC | At some point, they did an installer respin and brought in a kernel where the driver was added. | Jun 14 01:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: fedora 25 is 4.10 | Jun 14 01:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: on the other side of the wifi stack change. | Jun 14 01:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: and I want https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_4.11 4.11 and newer for better SMB support. | Jun 14 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernelnewbies.org | Linux 4.11 - Linux Kernel Newbies | Jun 14 01:46 | |
| DaaemonFC | Strange. Ubuntu works with the wifi and has a 4.10 kernel | Jun 14 01:46 |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1497.html | Jun 14 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Jun 14 01:46 | |
| DaaemonFC | Ubuntu 17.04 | Jun 14 01:46 |
| DaaemonFC | Apparently, Fedora 25 shipped with kernel 4.8. | Jun 14 01:47 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel Fedora 25 might have shiped with 4.8 but changes to 4.10 by update. | Jun 14 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Kernel - FedoraProject | Jun 14 01:48 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so fedora wifi fixed it self by going to newer kernel version. | Jun 14 01:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Right. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess I can always just boot up into the Live environment when Debian 9 is released. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: basically that hardware does not like 4.9 or older. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Give everything a once over. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 42) | Jun 14 01:51 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would suspect debian 9 is not going to like you. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| DaaemonFC | That's what it reports. | Jun 14 01:51 |
| oiaohm | From what I can see debian 9 is going to be 4.9.x kernel. | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Then even if the driver is present, Debian probably does something stupid like not include the firmware for it. | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Happens. | Jun 14 01:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Since there is no ethernet port on this laptop, it kind of has to work out of the box, or I could include the deb package for the firmware on another stick. | Jun 14 01:53 |
| DaaemonFC | Still a hassle that they shouldn't put you through. | Jun 14 01:54 |
| oiaohm | There are debian installers with all firmware. | Jun 14 01:55 |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1503.html | Jun 14 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/qzxv9 ] | Jun 14 01:55 | |
| DaaemonFC | That's why I'm always puzzled when I find out some huge organization runs Debian. I'm like "Uh why?". There's nobody to get a support contract from as far as I know, and then you run into shit like no firmware included. | Jun 14 01:55 |
| MinceR | it probably still sucks less than ubuntu or ratcrap's distros | Jun 14 01:55 |
| DaaemonFC | I'd be biased towards CentOS or a similar distribution for LTS. | Jun 14 01:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ | Jun 14 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cdimage.debian.org | Index of /cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware [ http://ur1.ca/qzxvd ] | Jun 14 01:56 | |
| MinceR | still, if someone wants to run lendows (and not windows), they might as well go for ratcrap's stuff | Jun 14 01:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: HP and others sell support contracts for Debian. | Jun 14 01:56 |
| MinceR | that way they'll get poettering's newest stupid ideas sooner | Jun 14 01:56 |
| MinceR | especially on fedora | Jun 14 01:57 |
| DaaemonFC | CentOS is basically Really Crufty Fedora with less packages. | Jun 14 01:57 |
| DaaemonFC | So I don't see the point, as a home desktop at least. | Jun 14 01:57 |
| MinceR | they can get their systems broken even faster! | Jun 14 01:57 |
| DaaemonFC | That's not what it's for though. | Jun 14 01:57 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I attempted to use CentOS one time to see how long I could stand it. | Jun 14 01:58 |
| MinceR | apparently already 2 companies provide enterprise support for devuan | Jun 14 01:58 |
| MinceR | might as well switch :> | Jun 14 01:58 |
| DaaemonFC | There was nothing particularly wrong with it, but the libs and stuff just got so far behind upstream that eventually you couldn't build new software yourself. | Jun 14 01:58 |
| MinceR | s/broken/more broken/ | Jun 14 01:59 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: with Debian you have choice of support contracts. https://www.debian.org/consultants/ List of contractable consultants | Jun 14 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.debian.org | Debian -- Consultants | Jun 14 01:59 | |
| DaaemonFC | I do like that they dropped x86-32 though. | Jun 14 01:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Ancient crap. | Jun 14 01:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Mostly serves to hobble the performance available to multiarch libs in the x86-64 version. | Jun 14 02:00 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wine still needs the 32 bit libraries. | Jun 14 02:00 |
| DaaemonFC | If you have a 32-bit distribution, you're targeting old hardware that lacks support for the features available on newer CPUs. | Jun 14 02:00 |
| DaaemonFC | So by dumping it, you can compile your 32-bit multiarch libraries in an ideal manner for running on an x86-64 system. | Jun 14 02:01 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora is most of the way there though. | Jun 14 02:01 |
| oiaohm | To be correct at some point we have to change to x32-abi for 32 bit like stuff. Fixes the 32 bit time problem. | Jun 14 02:02 |
| MinceR | other legacy proprietary applications (games) may also need i386 support | Jun 14 02:02 |
| oiaohm | Some of those legacy old programs better not care about time that much. | Jun 14 02:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to be able to virtualize time for them | Jun 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | so at least they won't wrap while you're using them :> | Jun 14 02:03 |
| oiaohm | Its the 2038 problem and the determination to sweep problem under rug. | Jun 14 02:03 |
| DaaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-24-i686-Demotion | Jun 14 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Linux Moves Ahead With Effectively Demoting 32-bit x86 Support - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/qzxwp ] | Jun 14 02:04 | |
| MinceR | funny, fedora used to provide compatibility libraries | Jun 14 02:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora Server dropped 32-bit and the other spins don't consider problems in the 32-bit spins to be release blockers. | Jun 14 02:04 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Multiarch is still a priority. | Jun 14 02:04 |
| MinceR | if they considered problems to be release blockers, they wouldn't have released any version newer than 14 :> | Jun 14 02:05 |
| DaaemonFC | After the 32-bit release gets the axe, many 32-bit packages will still remain to enable 32-bit software to run on the x86-64 version of the OS. | Jun 14 02:05 |
| oiaohm | We have until 2038 to get off of anything that depends on 32 bit time. | Jun 14 02:06 |
| oiaohm | So it is most likely a good idea to start kicking old school 32 bit out. | Jun 14 02:07 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 14 02:07 |
| DaaemonFC | The last Intel CPU without x86-64 support came off the line in 2005. | Jun 14 02:07 |
| MinceR | but i doubt this is what will stop me from running unreal tournament when i feel like it :> | Jun 14 02:07 |
| oiaohm | Of course some of the fixs make me go ok right. like instead of going to 64 bit time going to 48 bit time. | Jun 14 02:07 |
| DaaemonFC | With the exception of some Atom models. | Jun 14 02:08 |
| MinceR | why would you want to go to 48 bit time? | Jun 14 02:08 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I was about to question atom. | Jun 14 02:08 |
| MinceR | it's not a whole multiple of 32 bit | Jun 14 02:08 |
| DaaemonFC | So basically, nothing important in 12 years. | Jun 14 02:08 |
| DaaemonFC | Carrying a 32-bit version is starting to look embarrassing even by Microsoft standards. | Jun 14 02:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 48bit time fits into some filesystems spare space in structures. | Jun 14 02:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: where 64 bit does not. | Jun 14 02:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 14 02:09 |
| DaaemonFC | At this point, the limit of 4 GB of RAM alone means that people would have to resort to using Lxde or something. | Jun 14 02:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Open a few tabs in a web browser you're already using swap if you only have 4 GB. | Jun 14 02:09 |
| MinceR | still better than gnome or kde | Jun 14 02:09 |
| DaaemonFC | KDE is not looking so good. | Jun 14 02:10 |
| DaaemonFC | At least GNOME is consistent. | Jun 14 02:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, consistently crap | Jun 14 02:10 |
| DaaemonFC | It's also the only desktop I can use because none of the rest have HiDPI support. | Jun 14 02:10 |
| DaaemonFC | The next release of MATE might support it well enough to use. | Jun 14 02:11 |
| DaaemonFC | The migration to GTK+ 3 is done, so HiDPI could come next. | Jun 14 02:11 |
| DaaemonFC | The memory requirement of MATE built with GTK+ 3 is the same as built with GTK + 2. | Jun 14 02:11 |
| MinceR | until you use something like gimp that uses stuff they've thrown out of gtk3? :> | Jun 14 02:12 |
| DaaemonFC | They broke all of the GTK+ 2 themes, but it had to be done. There never will be support for HiDPI in GTK+ 3 and no upstream is maintaining it. | Jun 14 02:12 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, You have both versions of the toolkit on your system. | Jun 14 02:12 |
| DaaemonFC | At least until Gimp support GTK+ 3. | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Or does it already? | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Anyway, with GTK+ 2 apps, they're nearly unusable on my computer. | Jun 14 02:13 |
| DaaemonFC | The buttons and everything are way too small. | Jun 14 02:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WrX2XBC.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/WrX2XBC ) | Jun 14 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Cat: Why is this not on the floor yet? | Jun 14 02:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat: Why is this not on the floor yet? - GIF on Imgur | Jun 14 02:13 | |
| DaaemonFC | https://www.gimp.org/news/2017/02/02/gimp-2-10-blockers/ | Jun 14 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gimp.org | GIMP 2.10 blockers and the road to 3.0 - GIMP [ http://ur1.ca/qzxxy ] | Jun 14 02:13 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, They're working on it. | Jun 14 02:14 |
| MinceR | ah, so it will never happen | Jun 14 02:14 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the gnome munchkins want to replace gimp with | Jun 14 02:14 |
| MinceR | pinta? | Jun 14 02:14 |
| DaaemonFC | Mono on Linux seems to be dead. | Jun 14 02:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Banshee hasn't had any activity in 2 years. | Jun 14 02:15 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: worse memory usage to other options really did not help. | Jun 14 02:16 |
| MinceR | maybe ratcrap will revive it for their overlords in redmond | Jun 14 02:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: unlikely Redhat is Java. | Jun 14 02:16 |
| MinceR | was | Jun 14 02:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no Is. | Jun 14 02:16 |
| MinceR | then they became a microsoft vassal | Jun 14 02:16 |
| MinceR | https://www.redhat.com/en/microsoft | Jun 14 02:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Microsoft | Jun 14 02:16 | |
| MinceR | and iirc they already started trying to destroy gnu/linux before that announcement | Jun 14 02:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no Microsoft for that had to agree to provide some tools under JAVA | Jun 14 02:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat has to deal with the hosting providers. Microsoft has to deal with Redhat. | Jun 14 02:19 |
| DaaemonFC | If the fact that systemd took over the whole world and didn't run on BSD was the only good thing about it, I'd probably still be happy on some level. | Jun 14 02:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ratcrap has already started sacrificing their customers and their business for scraps from microsoft | Jun 14 02:20 |
| DaaemonFC | The BSD folks not only are working for Microsoft and Apple for free, they brag about it when the companies run off with some of their software, make it proprietary, and abuse people with it. | Jun 14 02:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/jboss-middleware/application-platform | Jun 14 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat JBoss Enterprise Application Platform [ http://ur1.ca/qzxyp ] | Jun 14 02:21 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you not noticed that everyone who becomes a vassal to m$ eventually gets killed and discarded? | Jun 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: where is novell now? | Jun 14 02:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat has been dealing with Microsoft since 1998 | Jun 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | not in the way they are now | Jun 14 02:21 |
| oiaohm | exactly like they are now. | Jun 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | i don't remember cancerd being around in 1998 | Jun 14 02:22 |
| oiaohm | Its how redhat got themselves into paperwork going out to parnters. | Jun 14 02:22 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, At some point, Microsoft should probably look to buy a Linux company. | Jun 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: indeed | Jun 14 02:22 |
| DaaemonFC | Canonical would be cheaper. | Jun 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | they've already bought some android application developers to kill them off | Jun 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | they could buy both ratcrap and canonical | Jun 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | and then claim they control most of "linux" | Jun 14 02:23 |
| oiaohm | 1998 redhat custom management tools for sysvinit that would nuke you manual settings. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, Red Hat is on the S&P 500, but only 0.076% by weight. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that did not kill non-redhat distros | Jun 14 02:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat did not kill sysvinit on non redhat distributions. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Microsoft could buy the entire company cheaply and 90% of enterprise Linux installs are RHEL. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit being sysvinit killed it. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: wrong | Jun 14 02:23 |
| oiaohm | I am right. | Jun 14 02:23 |
| MinceR | keep telling yourself that | Jun 14 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Every distrobution was having problems with fork processes becoming non managed. | Jun 14 02:24 |
| MinceR | every lendows distribution has many problems you ignore | Jun 14 02:24 |
| oiaohm | Very few init systems attempted to address that problem. | Jun 14 02:24 |
| MinceR | they can't boot reliably, they can't shutdown reliably, they can't launch services reliably | Jun 14 02:24 |
| oiaohm | upstart was attempted by most before going systemd. | Jun 14 02:24 |
| oiaohm | upstart was less reliable than systemd. | Jun 14 02:24 |
| MinceR | cancerd is the only thing that can make upstart look good | Jun 14 02:25 |
| MinceR | with its horrid signal and ptrace abuse | Jun 14 02:25 |
| oiaohm | No systemd has less issues with upset services than upstart. | Jun 14 02:25 |
| oiaohm | Also does not have the fork break away problem. | Jun 14 02:25 |
| MinceR | yay, it does not have some rarely occurring problems preferred by oiaohm | Jun 14 02:25 |
| oiaohm | If a few hunderd reports a year to debian bugzilla is rare. | Jun 14 02:26 |
| MinceR | it just trashes users' data, makes servers and embedded system take ages to boot (if they manage to boot at all), but who cares about that? | Jun 14 02:26 |
| oiaohm | So the fork problem was not exaclty rare. | Jun 14 02:26 |
| DaaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6h02sk/fedora_26_beta_released/ | Jun 14 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Fedora 26 Beta released : linux | Jun 14 02:26 | |
| MinceR | and relies on a kernel feature that will probably never be completed | Jun 14 02:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora should look into changing the compiler to clang for some packages. | Jun 14 02:27 |
| MinceR | as in, will probably never work | Jun 14 02:27 |
| MinceR | but ooh, shiny! | Jun 14 02:27 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, There was a Lindows. | Jun 14 02:27 |
| oiaohm | cgroupv2 and newer namespaces do work now. | Jun 14 02:27 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: i know | Jun 14 02:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Microsoft paid them to change their name to avoid going to court. | Jun 14 02:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so that never work is wrong. | Jun 14 02:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what happen when someone attempt to properly fix a problem. | Jun 14 02:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: instead of ingoring it. | Jun 14 02:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: are you implying that fixing a problem with sysvinit requires replacing the whole userland? | Jun 14 02:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the problems do has questions along that way. Like LSB heads in sysvinit scripts not matching to sysvinit script contents so leading to tools giving wrong information to users. | Jun 14 02:29 |
| DaaemonFC | Right, but some of what systemd is doing is important in embedded. | Jun 14 02:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the thing systemd is do not releated to init is about other oddness. Like why does each X11 desktop envornment run it own incompadible session management. | Jun 14 02:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Fast boot, fast recovery if a service errors out. | Jun 14 02:31 |
| DaaemonFC | That's one reason why car makers are going with Linux for the entertainment system. | Jun 14 02:31 |
| DaaemonFC | Apple's stuff is not very good and waiting more than a few seconds for the system to come up starts getting awkward. | Jun 14 02:31 |
| MinceR | yes, it's important to keep embedded systems from functioning | Jun 14 02:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd allows services to have their own watchdog without using a complete system one. That is a improvement. | Jun 14 02:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: adding a few extra random features won't save the fundamentals from being completely wrong | Jun 14 02:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: fundamentals of sysvinit are wrong. | Jun 14 02:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it swapping wrong with wrong. | Jun 14 02:33 |
| MinceR | and yeah, cancerd must also take over all the DEs | Jun 14 02:33 |
| MinceR | again, the old, tired lie about cancerd being only an init system | Jun 14 02:33 |
| oiaohm | The fundanmentals of every DE running there own incompadible sesssion management. | Jun 14 02:34 |
| MinceR | anyway, i'm tired of you wasting my time advertising this piece of malware | Jun 14 02:34 |
| MinceR | yeah, how dare different software be different | Jun 14 02:34 |
| oiaohm | so making it impossible to switch between DE without logging out. | Jun 14 02:34 |
| MinceR | poettering's big dream: build all the software in the world from a single repository | Jun 14 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Jun 14 02:34 |
| oiaohm | pulseaudio give you a hint. | Jun 14 02:35 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/qqdla830gsex.jpg | Jun 14 02:35 |
| oiaohm | before pulseaudio you had artsd, esound.... All in a conflitting area with each other. | Jun 14 02:35 |
| DaaemonFC | I was reading a story about Debian 8 being released from a couple years ago... | Jun 14 02:35 |
| DaaemonFC | "Computers with broken EFI implementations should now be handled much more gracefully. Debian Jessie should even boot and install on Intel-based Macs[...]". | Jun 14 02:35 |
| DaaemonFC | Redundant statement is redundant. | Jun 14 02:35 |
| oiaohm | Mac OS hardware efi is the worse but there are others that are quite up there. | Jun 14 02:36 |
| MinceR | "mac os hardware" | Jun 14 02:37 |
| MinceR | wtf | Jun 14 02:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the apple EFI firmware comes out the Mac OS source repositary. | Jun 14 02:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: by the way I have had shudown -h segfault under sysvinit | Jun 14 02:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if systemd does not have dbus it fall back to the same old sysvinit method to send shutdown. | Jun 14 02:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with the same old bug killing it dead. | Jun 14 02:39 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: can you at least take my nick out of your cancerd spam? | Jun 14 02:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no | Jun 14 02:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as you are fairly much the only one bring up this point of view. | Jun 14 02:40 |
| MinceR | then i'll just ignore you | Jun 14 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember I did not open this topic. | Jun 14 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and it that you bring up the same error over and over again. I use to skip using you name. | Jun 14 02:41 |
| MinceR | you bring up the same bullshit over and over | Jun 14 02:41 |
| MinceR | talking to you is like trying to argue with a spambot | Jun 14 02:42 |
| MinceR | apparently the counterargument to systemd forcibly replacing a huge number of services that actually worked correctly and reliably with half-baked unworkable crap is "hurpa durp sysvinit this, sysvinit that" | Jun 14 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Problem is even when I back it with documentation you don't listen. | Jun 14 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Things have happened for particular reasons. | Jun 14 02:45 |
| MinceR | you back it up with the same bullshit over and over | Jun 14 02:45 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure they had reasons | Jun 14 02:45 |
| MinceR | just not the reasons they've told you, which you've believed uncritically | Jun 14 02:45 |
| oiaohm | And you don't have anything in most cases backing up your statements. | Jun 14 02:45 |
| MinceR | actually i do | Jun 14 02:45 |
| MinceR | you just ignore it | Jun 14 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Like you did not consider why distriubtions stated migrating to upstart before systemd. | Jun 14 02:46 |
| MinceR | just like the fundamentalists ignore everything that conflicts with their dogma | Jun 14 02:46 |
| oiaohm | This means they were looking for something. | Jun 14 02:46 |
| MinceR | you also seem to have trouble understanding that neither you, nor poettering, nor anyone at ratcrap or m$ has the right to dictate what users are allowed to run on computers they own | Jun 14 02:46 |
| MinceR | yes, they were looking for shiny broken crap | Jun 14 02:46 |
| MinceR | and yet, you're ignoring that upstart _only_ replaced init and rc | Jun 14 02:47 |
| oiaohm | No they were looking for something to fix broken rap. | Jun 14 02:47 |
| oiaohm | crap | Jun 14 02:47 |
| oiaohm | So they were weight between 1 bit of broken crap against another bit of broken crap. | Jun 14 02:47 |
| MinceR | and cancerd replaces init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond, atd, syslogd | Jun 14 02:47 |
| MinceR | and more | Jun 14 02:47 |
| MinceR | it also breaks screen, tmux, dtach by default | Jun 14 02:48 |
| MinceR | but hey, sysvinit had some bugs! | Jun 14 02:48 |
| MinceR | "i broke your server into tiny pieces with a sledgehammer because one of the pieces of software on it had some bugs in it. i hope you're grateful!" | Jun 14 02:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: modification used in business to consolekit also killed screen tmux and dtech 3 years before systemd existed. | Jun 14 02:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why did that old modification exist. | Jun 14 02:49 |
| MinceR | >consolekit | Jun 14 02:50 |
| MinceR | another shitty piece of poetteringware | Jun 14 02:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: try again. | Jun 14 02:51 |
| MinceR | it obviously existed because whoever hacked it up had no clue of what unix was or how it was supposed to work | Jun 14 02:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you try again | Jun 14 02:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the modifitation I am talk is taken from somewhere older. | Jun 14 02:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: being BSD | Jun 14 02:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why was that modification done. | Jun 14 02:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your cult has managed to deploy broken shitty software that wasn't even half complete, or designed at all, onto thousands of production systems, by force | Jun 14 02:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so don't come to me about people trying something again, or things having bugs | Jun 14 02:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the modification was done due to servers with multi users logging in and out running out ram. | Jun 14 02:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: fucking fix your shitty software before forcing it on people. | Jun 14 02:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't give a fuck about your excuses | Jun 14 02:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you want to run windows, fucking run windows | Jun 14 02:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not excuse. | Jun 14 02:52 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Jun 14 02:53 |
| MinceR | all you have is bullshit excuses for the unexcusable | Jun 14 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Its the problem with multi users using screen tmux and dtach. | Jun 14 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Human forget so they fill the system up with processes until it cannot take any more. | Jun 14 02:53 |
| MinceR | so you break the system so humans can't use it | Jun 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | problem solved! | Jun 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | this is your shittiest excuse so far | Jun 14 02:54 |
| oiaohm | No logind include a flag to allow when users intentionally want a processes to stick around. | Jun 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | and what was it set to by default? | Jun 14 02:54 |
| oiaohm | the old consolekit and bsd solution did not have on off switch for users. | Jun 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | "solution" | Jun 14 02:54 |
| oiaohm | So admin turned it on users had to live with it. | Jun 14 02:54 |
| MinceR | "i broke your systems, but it's ok because i call it a 'solution'" | Jun 14 02:55 |
| MinceR | fucking stinking pile of bullshit | Jun 14 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Not broke system. | Jun 14 02:55 |
| oiaohm | That changed behavour of system. | Jun 14 02:55 |
| oiaohm | Question is what behavour is the safer. | Jun 14 02:55 |
| MinceR | yeah, it isn't broken, it's just "protected" from users doing anything productive with it | Jun 14 02:55 |
| MinceR | no, question is who asked for this shit | Jun 14 02:55 |
| MinceR | and who decides what the use case for a server is | Jun 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | and who decides what the use case for my server is | Jun 14 02:56 |
| oiaohm | do all users use dtach and the like and expect processes to remain running after they log out. | Jun 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | hint: it isn't you, or poettering, or anyone at m$ or ratcrap | Jun 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what dtach is for | Jun 14 02:56 |
| oiaohm | Majority of users when serveyed think log out is end everything. | Jun 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | then majority of users do not belong on a unix system | Jun 14 02:56 |
| MinceR | your current excuse for killing unix is users being too stupid to learn it | Jun 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | take them to winblows or macos, then | Jun 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | or put them in a straitjacket and have them taken care of | Jun 14 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Unix servers is where terminated eveyrthing on log out starts without setting a flag. | Jun 14 02:57 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Gave you that one in the past. | Jun 14 02:58 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 02:58 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 14 02:58 |
| oiaohm | I gave you the solaris and aix one and you answer bull to it. | Jun 14 02:58 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 02:58 |
| oiaohm | So should I expect bull answer againt | Jun 14 02:58 |
| MinceR | you shouldn't type so much bullshit here, then | Jun 14 02:59 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 14 02:59 |
| oiaohm | I have cited you wrong more often than not. | Jun 14 02:59 |
| MinceR | no, you have lied | Jun 14 02:59 |
| MinceR | like when you pretend that all unix is solaris | Jun 14 02:59 |
| MinceR | news flash: at&t is not sun, or oracle | Jun 14 02:59 |
| oiaohm | at&t was referenced in the solaris cite. | Jun 14 03:00 |
| oiaohm | There have been a set of work around to parituclar problems for a long time. | Jun 14 03:00 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the workaround will be for systemd preventing certain services from working at all | Jun 14 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Then there comes a quesiton if something is a repeating problem should the default be the other way. | Jun 14 03:01 |
| MinceR | no, the answer is not to have poettering decide and enforce new defaults everywhere | Jun 14 03:01 |
| MinceR | if ratcrap's distros were as great as you keep implying they were, everyone would be using them without being forced to | Jun 14 03:01 |
| oiaohm | I know of no service that cannot be got working under systemd | Jun 14 03:02 |
| MinceR | i already listed a couple | Jun 14 03:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what ones. | Jun 14 03:02 |
| DaaemonFC | https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-using-git/ | Jun 14 03:02 |
| MinceR | most importantly, syslogd | Jun 14 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Microsoft Is Now Using Linus Torvalds’ Open Source Tool For Windows Development | Jun 14 03:02 | |
| DaaemonFC | They had to patch it because of performance problems with NTFS. | Jun 14 03:02 |
| oiaohm | syslogd is using in embedded systems with systemd. | Jun 14 03:02 |
| oiaohm | with journald removed. | Jun 14 03:02 |
| oiaohm | So that bull | Jun 14 03:03 |
| MinceR | that's funny, your cult mates forgot to mention that option before | Jun 14 03:03 |
| MinceR | poettering claimed systemd can't work without journald | Jun 14 03:03 |
| MinceR | sounds an awful lot like m$ claiming winblows can't work without IE | Jun 14 03:03 |
| oiaohm | Version 100 could not version 110 could. | Jun 14 03:03 |
| oiaohm | So it when poettering made claim. | Jun 14 03:03 |
| MinceR | actually irrelevant, as he could have fixed his shitty software at any point instead of bullshitting users | Jun 14 03:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so since version 110 system journald has been removeable if you built systemd itself. | Jun 14 03:04 |
| MinceR | but you know what the funny thing is? | Jun 14 03:04 |
| MinceR | your beloved ratcrap released 3 allegedly "stable" versions of fedora with pre-110 systemd versions | Jun 14 03:05 |
| MinceR | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora | Jun 14 03:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora ) | Jun 14 03:05 | |
| oiaohm | Fedora is a development OS | Jun 14 03:05 |
| MinceR | it has allegedly "stable" "release"s | Jun 14 03:05 |
| oiaohm | This is important nothing requires stable status to be in fedora. | Jun 14 03:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 14 03:05 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Jun 14 03:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: morning | Jun 14 03:06 |
| MinceR | but i guess micro$oft's asshole practices are a-ok if they're done through ratcrap, or canonical, or some other patsy | Jun 14 03:06 |
| razielle_tzu | morning sebsebseb | Jun 14 03:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jun 14 03:07 |
| MinceR | the problem is apparently not that users get fucked and their servers are broken, but that they're done by someone called microsoft | Jun 14 03:07 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: microsoft | Jun 14 03:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Apple what a lovely fruit | Jun 14 03:07 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: better when processed into juice or pie | Jun 14 03:07 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah raw apple sucks | Jun 14 03:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Redhat if you want a stable release Redhat wants you to pay for RHEL. If you want to be a tester they give you Fedora that is the way it always has been. | Jun 14 03:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: cheap iphones or windows phone on ebay looked at that a bit yesterday as well | Jun 14 03:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and apparently now ratcrap also gets to decide what debian does. | Jun 14 03:08 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: probably still too expensive, considering what they can do | Jun 14 03:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: spy on you | Jun 14 03:09 |
| MinceR | you can have google spy on you for less | Jun 14 03:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and is that even new thinking redhat was maintaining consolekit and udev before systemd. | Jun 14 03:09 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR yes I dont like eating apples much | Jun 14 03:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at least consolekit and udev didn't try to prevent you from running other software before cancerd came around | Jun 14 03:09 |
| MinceR | well, except for consolekit apparently breaking screen, tmux and dtach -- though i never noticed this happen on my systems | Jun 14 03:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you did have gnome and kde fail due to not having right versions of consolekit. | Jun 14 03:10 |
| MinceR | my debian7 server runs consolekit and i haven't seen my screens or tmuxes get killed on logout | Jun 14 03:10 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR but I dont like apple juice much either, i believe my liter of orange juiuce is still waiting to go | Jun 14 03:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, i had gnome and kde fail because they were unfixable piles of shit | Jun 14 03:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: consolekit default is not to terminate on logoutl. | Jun 14 03:11 |
| MinceR | see, sane defaults | Jun 14 03:11 |
| MinceR | was that so difficult? | Jun 14 03:11 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR hmm apple pie with custard can be nice though | Jun 14 03:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sane default where you have multi users eating up all of a servers resoruces? | Jun 14 03:11 |
| razielle_tzu | nah, ice cream | Jun 14 03:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the server resources exist for the users to use | Jun 14 03:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: on processes users has forgot to kill off | Jun 14 03:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if users use those resources incorrectly, the solution is not to prevent users from working on the server at all | Jun 14 03:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, users are responsible for their own processes | Jun 14 03:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple the muti billion dollar tech company the richest in the world and your overall favourite! | Jun 14 03:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what is it with you cancerd people pretending that everyone is running multiseat desktops for public campus use? | Jun 14 03:12 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Jun 14 03:12 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yep or that | Jun 14 03:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: screen tmux and detach still work with logind as long as users tell it that they wish processed to remian. | Jun 14 03:12 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: lol @ whom ? | Jun 14 03:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that modificaiton for logind was done before systemd existed. | Jun 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: users should not need to tell that the former unix system cancerd hijacked should in fact keep functioning as a unix system | Jun 14 03:13 |
| razielle_tzu | sebsebseb: that comment about apple being MinceR's fave | Jun 14 03:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no one spoke up in the planning stages. | Jun 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: logind is part of systemd | Jun 14 03:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind started as a freedesktop project in it own right. | Jun 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: nobody had this half-baked crap forced on them in the planning stages | Jun 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | if it can be called "planning" at all | Jun 14 03:13 |
| MinceR | considering that the "design" is incredibly shit | Jun 14 03:14 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes it is and MinceR just lies to us really with his cr.... alternative name for it :d | Jun 14 03:14 |
| MinceR | it's non-modular, for one thing | Jun 14 03:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Apple Apple Apple and oh yeah Microsoft as well! | Jun 14 03:16 |
| razielle_tzu | sebsebseb: stop disparaging MinceR like this | Jun 14 03:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind was designed on the idea more than 1 party would implement it. Also logind was design to get rid of a huge stack of work around hacks https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/ | Jun 14 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | multiseat [ http://ur1.ca/qzy68 ] | Jun 14 03:17 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: banta? | Jun 14 03:17 |
| razielle_tzu | doesn't come across that way sometimes | Jun 14 03:19 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: or trolling him a bit for fun and out of boredom :d | Jun 14 03:19 |
| razielle_tzu | find a different way to alleviate boredom? | Jun 14 03:19 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I like you enough really | Jun 14 03:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the interest part is how much of systemd is a collection of parts that should have competitors that no competitor has appeared. | Jun 14 03:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Very sad way to close another week....' | Jun 14 03:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Maybe table a bill to rehire firefighters....' | Jun 14 04:20 | |
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| Hi | hi | Jun 14 05:12 |
| Hi | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 05:13 |
| ---Hi is now known as Guest42781 | Jun 14 05:13 | |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 05:13 |
| Guest42781 | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 05:13 |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 05:13 |
| schestowitz | hi | Jun 14 05:13 |
| Guest42781 | yes tell me | Jun 14 05:13 |
| schestowitz | where? | Jun 14 05:13 |
| schestowitz | and why? | Jun 14 05:13 |
| Guest42781 | techrights.org/category/news-roundup/page/18/ | Jun 14 05:13 |
| Guest42781 | Lenovo Yoga Book 2-in-1 PC With Chrome OS Coming In 2017 | Jun 14 05:14 |
| Guest42781 | on this text | Jun 14 05:14 |
| Guest42781 | pleas | Jun 14 05:14 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jun 14 05:14 |
| Guest42781 | its giving negative impact for our SEO | Jun 14 05:14 |
| schestowitz | f* off | Jun 14 05:14 |
| Guest42781 | ooohhhhh really | Jun 14 05:15 |
| razielle_tzu | LOl | Jun 14 05:15 |
| schestowitz | go back to your SEO-ville | Jun 14 05:15 |
| schestowitz | spammer | Jun 14 05:15 |
| Guest42781 | bloody spammers you guys are | Jun 14 05:15 |
| schestowitz | you are | Jun 14 05:15 |
| schestowitz | wasting people's time 'optimising' | Jun 14 05:15 |
| Guest42781 | losers | Jun 14 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Go back to your "SEO" duties | Jun 14 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day you will get a real job | Jun 14 05:16 |
| Guest42781 | dude I am not a seo guy | Jun 14 05:16 |
| Guest42781 | I am the person who created the website | Jun 14 05:17 |
| Guest42781 | and your 1 link is hurting my efforts | Jun 14 05:17 |
| razielle_tzu | one article is throwing off your SEO? | Jun 14 05:17 |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 05:17 |
| Guest42781 | yes... | Jun 14 05:17 |
| razielle_tzu | then your SEO is shit | Jun 14 05:17 |
| Guest42781 | that's why I am requesting you | Jun 14 05:17 |
| schestowitz | so you try to tame the whole web | Jun 14 05:17 |
| Guest42781 | may be... | Jun 14 05:17 |
| schestowitz | to suit your SEO | Jun 14 05:17 |
| Guest42781 | no.... | Jun 14 05:17 |
| schestowitz | I get lots of spammer requests like that from SEO "professionals" | Jun 14 05:17 |
| schestowitz | many requests are even automated | Jun 14 05:18 |
| Guest42781 | i am not automated man | Jun 14 05:18 |
| razielle_tzu | if one article throws off your SEO it's bad SEO | Jun 14 05:18 |
| Guest42781 | may be I am saying you and requesting you to remove it | Jun 14 05:18 |
| Guest42781 | it will not cost you anything | Jun 14 05:18 |
| Guest42781 | but its costing me | Jun 14 05:18 |
| schestowitz | I remember about 10 years ago when Sainsbury's asked people to request PERMISSION to just LINK to their site | Jun 14 05:18 |
| razielle_tzu | ikr | Jun 14 05:19 |
| schestowitz | these people don't get the Internet | Jun 14 05:19 |
| schestowitz | probably still don't | Jun 14 05:19 |
| razielle_tzu | they really don't | Jun 14 05:19 |
| Guest42781 | please will you remove it or not...it will be of great help to me | Jun 14 05:19 |
| Guest42781 | ?? | Jun 14 05:20 |
| razielle_tzu | probably not, find another way to fix your bad SEO | Jun 14 05:20 |
| Guest42781 | ok.....may be you will always be a looser only like since last 16 years with your shitty website when you can't succeed you are sucking others efforts...bloody looser | Jun 14 05:22 |
| oiaohm | https://janefriedman.com/the-fair-use-doctrine/ | Jun 14 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janefriedman.com | Is It Fair Use? 7 Questions to Ask Before Using Copyrighted Material | Jun 14 05:22 | |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 05:22 |
| schestowitz | I gave you traffic | Jun 14 05:23 |
| Guest42781 | i think you didn't know anything apart from LOL | Jun 14 05:23 |
| Guest42781 | I don't need you bloody traffic | Jun 14 05:23 |
| schestowitz | If some cyber-jacking led to the link being to strong pr0n, I would remove it | Jun 14 05:23 |
| schestowitz | but "SEO" is a poor reason | Jun 14 05:23 |
| schestowitz | you are trying to shape the whole Web (around you) to suit your goals | Jun 14 05:24 |
| razielle_tzu | SEO is one of the worst reasons to request a takedown that GIVES traffic | Jun 14 05:24 |
| schestowitz | also a waste of time | Jun 14 05:24 |
| Guest42781 | thanks for the advice | Jun 14 05:24 |
| schestowitz | you would be spending your time better writing MORE articles | Jun 14 05:24 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah because it won't be the link that's causing the issues | Jun 14 05:24 |
| schestowitz | not obsessing over something you wrote a year ago | Jun 14 05:24 |
| schestowitz | sorry for saying the f* word | Jun 14 05:25 |
| razielle_tzu | poor design, meta-spam | Jun 14 05:25 |
| razielle_tzu | these are things that will be effecting it | Jun 14 05:25 |
| schestowitz | I mistook you for some agent that's doing "SEO" on behalf of something | Jun 14 05:25 |
| schestowitz | lots of those exist out there and I get spammed by them all the time | Jun 14 05:25 |
| Guest42781 | hhhhhhhmmmmm | Jun 14 05:26 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 05:26 |
| oiaohm | Guest42781: https://www.google.com/webmasters/#?modal_active=none google does provide this tool. That does give you information on how it going over your sites and possible issues. | Jun 14 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Webmasters – Support, Learn, Connect & Search Console – Google [ http://ur1.ca/qwgzw ] | Jun 14 05:26 | |
| oiaohm | There is the nofollow that can be used on links in some cases to prevent some issues. | Jun 14 05:27 |
| Guest42781 | ok | Jun 14 05:28 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 05:28 |
| razielle_tzu | ooo the site uses the WP plugin yoast for SEO | Jun 14 05:29 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of this subject please? | Jun 14 05:29 |
| schestowitz | So much effort over a stupid "seo" thing for some very old article | Jun 14 05:29 |
| schestowitz | Guest42781: you could write a new article in this whole time chatting in IRC about SEO | Jun 14 05:30 |
| Guest42781 | Think that only | Jun 14 05:30 |
| schestowitz | Some people obsess over statistics and analytics (spying) when they could instead produce something new | Jun 14 05:30 |
| schestowitz | I want to write some articles now... | Jun 14 05:31 |
| Guest42781 | where it will be published :P | Jun 14 05:31 |
| razielle_tzu | what's with the random [/one_half], [one_half_last] stuff on random pages? | Jun 14 05:32 |
| razielle_tzu | seems kinda unprofessional | Jun 14 05:32 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: ok what. | Jun 14 05:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.monsterinsights.com/welcome-to-monsterinsights/ yoast is no more monsterinsights is the new name. | Jun 14 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to MonsterInsights - New Home of Google Analytics for WordPress | Jun 14 05:33 | |
| razielle_tzu | on Guest42781's site, some pages have random bits of code showing, like what i asked about being on their contact page | Jun 14 05:33 |
| razielle_tzu | also oiaohm Yoast is still what some articles are using for the SEO stuff | Jun 14 05:34 |
| razielle_tzu | in fact i think the whole site is still using it | Jun 14 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: this London tower block news you seen it ? | Jun 14 05:34 |
| sebsebseb | and you schestowitz | Jun 14 05:34 |
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| schestowitz | it would be bigger news if "tourrists" | Jun 14 05:35 |
| schestowitz | As if death only matter if there's some justification for wars abroad | Jun 14 05:35 |
| schestowitz | never mind car accidents, fires, cancer etc. | Jun 14 05:35 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: that is one of the common things I find. Sites SEO seams to be going badly and it got some out of date SEO tool on it. | Jun 14 05:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well its taken over bbc one | Jun 14 05:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: big story there | Jun 14 05:35 |
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| razielle_tzu | oiaohm: ikr, it's like they WANT someone else to blame instead of the guys that are supposed to keep everything up to date and working right | Jun 14 05:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874904295375810560 | Jun 14 05:37 |
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| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: I tell everyone starting a website to do a proper copyright introduction course prevents a lot of these stupid claims problems understand why people are legally allowed to-do to your work. | Jun 14 05:38 |
| razielle_tzu | it's a good idea tbf | Jun 14 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Jun 14 05:57 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how difficult could it possibly be to understand for you cancerd cultists that for most users multiseat is a perfectly irrelevant feature? | Jun 14 06:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL what does multi seat features prevent from happening in a security context??? | Jun 14 06:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course those who want to stick in the past never ask that question. | Jun 14 06:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: nothing relevant | Jun 14 06:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that not an answer basically you don't have a clue | Jun 14 06:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a. server. is. not. a. multiseat. desktop. | Jun 14 06:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no there is a place on the server for multiseat features. | Jun 14 06:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, there is no place on the server for multiseat features | Jun 14 06:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how do you control device access | Jun 14 06:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: especially if they are an excuse for breaking server behavior. | Jun 14 06:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you are just being clueless. | Jun 14 06:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: by locking up the server room, and by not giving untrustworthy people user accounts on the server, for example | Jun 14 06:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you are being clueless | Jun 14 06:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: or you're just trolling | Jun 14 06:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why did consolekit have per service settings | Jun 14 06:13 |
| MinceR | apparently not only poettering is perfectly clueless about what goes on in production environments | Jun 14 06:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why the solution before consolekit have it. | Jun 14 06:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you are missing something | Jun 14 06:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, i miss all the things poettering destroyed or ruined | Jun 14 06:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what is the main objective of session seperation. | Jun 14 06:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this still applies to the same point. | Jun 14 06:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you have failed to answer one. | Jun 14 06:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality you never understood the basic objective. So you are straight up unable to make a valid arguement. | Jun 14 06:17 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go back to windows | Jun 14 06:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows lacks this feature. | Jun 14 06:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so going back windows is this you admitting you don't have a clue? | Jun 14 06:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874928685635301376 | Jun 14 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Financial News https://t.co/pUoYHXxDZw | Jun 14 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 06:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Jun 14 06:20 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: then go pay your beloved microsoft to implement it | Jun 14 06:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Lets say you want to use opencl in a service to speed up processing. How are you going to do that safely without proper session separation framework. | Jun 14 06:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multi-seat is one part of a bigger set of features that is coming quite useful on servers. | Jun 14 06:22 |
| MinceR | good thing being able to boot, shutdown, launch services and log weren't at all useful on servers | Jun 14 06:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft thinks it a good idea to put all services in session 0 sharing resources kind turns out bad when something breaks | Jun 14 06:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, don't share resources | Jun 14 06:23 |
| MinceR | run every application on its own machine | Jun 14 06:23 |
| MinceR | like they do on windows | Jun 14 06:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that is a minor improvement over using session1 with the primary logged in user. | Jun 14 06:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: correct multi seat with correct device assement is something critically missing from windows. | Jun 14 06:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multiseat is not just about more keyboards, mice and screens. Its about sessions. | Jun 14 06:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so what you are saying is that I should do stuff like windows where it does not have proper sessions. | Jun 14 06:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny systemd in this area is really not windows. | Jun 14 06:25 |
| MinceR | it's also not a server OS | Jun 14 06:26 |
| oiaohm | this kind of session split first appears on AIX | Jun 14 06:26 |
| MinceR | funny, i have yet to hear about multiseat desktops running AIX | Jun 14 06:26 |
| oiaohm | So claiming it not a server feature is flawed. | Jun 14 06:26 |
| oiaohm | AIX calls it mulit session | Jun 14 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Different name same feature | Jun 14 06:27 |
| MinceR | well, at least the features you cancerd cultists are throwing out that people have used on servers for ages are not server features after all | Jun 14 06:27 |
| MinceR | it's great that you guys cleared that up | Jun 14 06:27 |
| oiaohm | multi session is part of sevice isoluation under AIX | Jun 14 06:27 |
| oiaohm | So when it does not have seat in the name it truly a server feature. | Jun 14 06:28 |
| *MinceR deletes the webserver and the system logs and plugs in 3 monitors, keyboards and mice | Jun 14 06:28 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL idiot AIX box did not have that feature. | Jun 14 06:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is you seeing the seat and not seeing how it fits anywhere else. | Jun 14 06:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, deterministic booting doesn't fit in the server room | Jun 14 06:30 |
| MinceR | who the hell wants their servers to boot reliably? | Jun 14 06:30 |
| MinceR | screw that, we'll just send Pajeet in to sit down in the data center and figure out on the console why the damn thing won't boot this time | Jun 14 06:31 |
| MinceR | or just power cycle it until it comes up | Jun 14 06:31 |
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| MinceR | also, have you retroactively removed the su binary from all AIX systems yet? | Jun 14 06:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: deterministic booting had been having trouble for a while. Particularly on 32 cores and larger with system utilisation on boot. | Jun 14 06:33 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to use machinectl shell, dummy | Jun 14 06:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, it was trouble for those who insisted on doing parallel boot where it does not make sense | Jun 14 06:33 |
| oiaohm | Problem is most of the server rooms are not single core systems any more but multicores. So boot has had to evolve to do parallel boot well. | Jun 14 06:35 |
| oiaohm | This is one of the features alternatives to systemd need to consider. | Jun 14 06:35 |
| MinceR | no, you don't have to start services on parallel just because your system happens to have multiple cores | Jun 14 06:36 |
| oiaohm | machinectl was not design to replace su. It was designed for when using docker like instances. | Jun 14 06:36 |
| MinceR | guess what, non-parallel boot has worked on multicore systems just fine | Jun 14 06:36 |
| MinceR | ooh, it was not designed to replace su! have you told poettering about that? he doesn't seem to be aware of it. | Jun 14 06:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machinectl.html read the first line. | Jun 14 06:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | machinectl | Jun 14 06:37 | |
| MinceR | (though "design" is a bit of a strong word for this haphazard mess you keep advertising here) | Jun 14 06:37 |
| oiaohm | machinectl may be used to introspect and control the state of the systemd(1) virtual machine and container registration manager | Jun 14 06:37 |
| oiaohm | So it was not designed to replace su | Jun 14 06:37 |
| oiaohm | that some people have found it can be used in that way is another matter. | Jun 14 06:37 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/825#issuecomment-127917622 | Jun 14 06:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RFE: machinectl to provide starting new session on local machine · Issue #825 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/nlk19 ] | Jun 14 06:38 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: read that careful. What su and sudo do is not clearly define was disputed before systemd existed. | Jun 14 06:41 |
| MinceR | admins somehow managed to use them | Jun 14 06:41 |
| MinceR | quite successfully, in fact | Jun 14 06:41 |
| MinceR | somehow, they worked reliably without replacing pid1 with a backdoor | Jun 14 06:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what machineclt was designed to do was nsenter and su in combination in a predictable outcome way. | Jun 14 06:41 |
| MinceR | cancerd's behavior is many things. predictable is not one of those things. | Jun 14 06:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: docker reports issues with nsenter and su and sudo before systemd particularly when you have PID namespace. | Jun 14 06:42 |
| MinceR | then don't use docker? | Jun 14 06:43 |
| oiaohm | nixos containtainers, lxc also showed the same kind of problems. | Jun 14 06:43 |
| oiaohm | So there was a bug there. | Jun 14 06:43 |
| MinceR | then don't use nsenter? | Jun 14 06:44 |
| oiaohm | So don't use shell inside a container to see what is going on??? | Jun 14 06:44 |
| oiaohm | That is what you have suggested not using nsenter | Jun 14 06:45 |
| MinceR | don't use a container implementation in production if it isn't ready for production use | Jun 14 06:45 |
| oiaohm | because you did not have anything else before machinectl todo it | Jun 14 06:45 |
| oiaohm | This is one of these cases of a item needing a fork. | Jun 14 06:45 |
| MinceR | but yeah, this idea is not good because it's not destructive enough | Jun 14 06:45 |
| MinceR | you've got to kill off a few gnu/linux distros in an attempt to make your half-baked bullshit work | Jun 14 06:46 |
| oiaohm | The stuff before was half backed as well. | Jun 14 06:46 |
| MinceR | hell, even if cancerd worked as well as you keep insisting (which it does not), the project would still deserve to die and be forgotten for their attitude, trickery and destructiveness | Jun 14 06:46 |
| oiaohm | So half-baked so people would not use container because they were not stable enough. | Jun 14 06:46 |
| MinceR | the stuff before didn't destroy our systems | Jun 14 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Oh Apple, oH Apple, what a lovely tech company, or not, but that HUngarian guy thinks so, oh yes Apple Apple | Jun 14 06:47 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: crApple is not a tech company, it's a cult | Jun 14 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hows down under, has Apple invavded it too much like here as well ? : d | Jun 14 06:47 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Apple not that popular in Australia as it really had to find a shop to get anything. | Jun 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Jun 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no your cool if you have a Iphone or Ipad :d | Jun 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | and use it | Jun 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | a lot | Jun 14 06:48 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: like its nothing to be 200 kms to the nearest apple repair place. | Jun 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | so they are near | Jun 14 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | or not so near ? | Jun 14 06:49 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_iPhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujitsu_iPAD | Jun 14 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linksys iPhone - Wikipedia | Jun 14 06:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fujitsu iPAD - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzz7r ] | Jun 14 06:49 | |
| MinceR | i don't see what's so special about them | Jun 14 06:49 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: 2-4 hours drive to just get a apple using person to look at something. | Jun 14 06:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really any change I think you would have been upset. | Jun 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh | Jun 14 06:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, not all change involves destroying everything in sight | Jun 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: its android or apple in the main streame | Jun 14 06:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also not all change involves building in an NSA backdoor | Jun 14 06:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd did not destroy anything for me. | Jun 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: everything else has little or no market share | Jun 14 06:50 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: so what? | Jun 14 06:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: android and strange and horible windows tablets are more common than ipad stuff. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows tablets are pure nasty. | Jun 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Microsoft oh Microsoft | Jun 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: appanratly Windows phone isn't that awful really! | Jun 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | it's even more awful | Jun 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | especially if you consider that winblows mobile sucked less | Jun 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit eh, unless it supports continumem | Jun 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | and they killed that for its sake | Jun 14 06:52 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: wait until they have seen one to many wifi networks. | Jun 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | what's m$ "support" worth anyway? | Jun 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: which windows phone ? | Jun 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | if you don't have armed forces on hand to kill them off, they won't care about the problems they've caused for you | Jun 14 06:53 |
| MinceR | they already have your money, and they'll take your money again, and again | Jun 14 06:53 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows 8-10 phones have the same problem. When the table of known wifi networks get filled they start nicely dropping wifi connections at random. | Jun 14 06:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlackArch Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now Offers over 1,800 Tools | Tux Machines | Jun 14 15:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/875078364738060289 | Jun 14 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now | Jun 14 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 16:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus | Jun 14 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wall-pluggable #Eero Beacon https://t.co/PxUNokytHD | Jun 14 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #router | Jun 14 16:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable Eero Beacon | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable...' | Jun 14 16:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for | Jun 14 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer systems | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Jun 14 16:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Init System for GNU/Linux https://t.co/0MLu7jdfLc | Jun 14 16:21 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn You have managed to turn some enemies...' | Jun 14 16:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c' | Jun 14 16:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c | Jun 14 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090550399127556 | Jun 14 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in | Jun 14 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vietnam https://t.co/irrGj35DZg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenos #gnu #linux #asia | Jun 14 16:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung setting the foundation for Tizen growth in Vietnam | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090758289719296 | Jun 14 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Jun 14 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 14 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 14 16:42 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in...' | Jun 14 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I...' | Jun 14 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 16:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875091767971991558 | Jun 14 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Jun 14 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KzNFm8dJrA (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 14 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenOS #gnu #linux | Jun 14 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #vista10 vs. #Linux #OpenGL Performance On #Kabylake - | Jun 14 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summer 2017 https://t.co/iRNaH3hIOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 14 16:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 vs. Linux OpenGL Performance On Kabylake - Summer 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 16:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Trump will be throwing no party......' | Jun 14 17:04 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Credico2016 @wikileaks @WBAI @TheTakeaway @jamifloyd @errollouis @CNN @NBCNews...' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@PartlyPatriot @wikileaks She might be pushed though.' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'The man is just being exploited by #battistelli...' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: The man is just being exploited...' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '#Pattenttrolls cause “direct economic harm” to small startups...' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: "Software patents in the last decade...' | Jun 14 17:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '"Software patents in the last decade have skyrocketed."...' | Jun 14 17:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875098851040006144 | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/YApAyxq1RX | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 14 17:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 14 17:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099488335126528 | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KzNFm8dJrA (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenOS #gnu #linux | Jun 14 17:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Tux Machines | Jun 14 17:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099517674192896 | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #vista10 vs. #Linux #OpenGL Performance On #Kabylake - | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Summer 2017 https://t.co/iRNaH3hIOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 14 17:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 vs. Linux OpenGL Performance On Kabylake - Summer 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 17:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YApAyxq1RX #android #linux #google' | Jun 14 17:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099909996851200 | Jun 14 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature | Jun 14 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Init System for GNU/Linux https://t.co/0MLu7jdfLc | Jun 14 17:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #systemd #init | Jun 14 17:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature Init System for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 14 17:18 | |
| MinceR | it's not an init system | Jun 14 17:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/04Qgd | Jun 14 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scintillating Hilarious Funny Random Meme Dump - Album on Imgur | Jun 14 17:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875106363000709120 | Jun 14 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww | Jun 14 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux release. | Jun 14 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion | Tux Machines | Jun 14 17:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww #gnu #linux release.' | Jun 14 17:46 | |
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| DaaemonFC | Fedora updated Mutter to the latest git commit for the 3.24 branch and clobbered a bunch of bugs. | Jun 14 19:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Hooray. | Jun 14 19:09 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, So, apparently Walmart overtorqued my oil drain plug last time I had an oil change. | Jun 14 19:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Now I have to take it to the shop to see what the damage is. | Jun 14 19:10 |
| DaaemonFC | The guy at the shop said bring it by on Monday and he'll try to get it out. | Jun 14 19:10 |
| DaaemonFC | Hoping that's possible. God, what kind of idiots do they have working at Walmart? | Jun 14 19:10 |
| DaaemonFC | Who puts an oil drain plug on with an impact wrench!? | Jun 14 19:11 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm, came across an article from Ted T'so. | Jun 14 19:16 |
| DaaemonFC | Says he recommends noatime for ext2/3/4 on SSDs to get writes down. He notes that there really aren't many downsides unless you run mutt, and even then you can work around it. | Jun 14 19:16 |
| DaaemonFC | I had wondered. I use noatime personally. | Jun 14 19:17 |
| DaaemonFC | I think that turning read operations into writes is dumb. | Jun 14 19:17 |
| DaaemonFC | I always used noatime even when I had a hard disk, even before relatime got added. | Jun 14 19:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875107280114651137 | Jun 14 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww | Jun 14 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux release. | Jun 14 19:23 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.11.5 | Jun 14 19:24 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora packages are already available in Koji. | Jun 14 19:24 |
| DaaemonFC | Seems to fix power management on my Intel HD Audio. | Jun 14 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875131606251565057 | Jun 14 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #Microsoft #PowerShell Threat, | Jun 14 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #DevSecOps, #Botnets, #USB, and Death of Microsoft's | Jun 14 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Docscom https://t.co/UEFH91dhSb (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Microsoft PowerShell Threat, DevSecOps, Botnets, USB, and Death of Microsoft's Docs.com | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875132009756200960 | Jun 14 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LLVM 5.0, #CPP 14, R and #Travis https://t.co/GR5utZhBi5 | Jun 14 19:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #programming #compiler | Jun 14 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM 5.0, C++14, R and Travis | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 14 19:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #Microsoft #PowerShell Threat, #DevSecOps, #Botnets, #USB,...' | Jun 14 19:27 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with Microsoft infiltrating Linux isn't really Red Hat. | Jun 14 19:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They bought themselves a membership at the Linux Foundation, which takes their money even as Linux gets locked out of more computers. | Jun 14 19:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LLVM 5.0, #CPP 14, R and #Travis https://t.co/GR5utZhBi5...' | Jun 14 19:29 | |
| DaaemonFC | This came some time after they got rid of their only board member with no corporate affiliation. | Jun 14 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875133127919902720 | Jun 14 19:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS FUD and #Microsoft #Entryism | Jun 14 19:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DnUkpmpN6v (www.tuxmachines.org) #blackduck | Jun 14 19:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fud #whitesource #iot #CloudFoundry | Jun 14 19:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS FUD and Microsoft Entryism | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875133517260259329 | Jun 14 19:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases #Firefox 54 | Jun 14 19:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xfojobwVNA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 14 19:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #internet #www | Jun 14 19:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases Firefox 54 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FOSS FUD and #Microsoft #Entryism https://t.co/DnUkpmpN6v #blackduck #fud...' | Jun 14 19:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases #Firefox 54 https://t.co/xfojobwVNA #freesw...' | Jun 14 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875134228219998208 | Jun 14 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: 2017 Maintainer and #Kernel Summit, #DebConf 17, | Jun 14 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PyLadies #Pune, and Recent Talks https://t.co/mFvXwc9yS8 | Jun 14 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #india #linux #python | Jun 14 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: 2017 Maintainer and Kernel Summit, DebConf 17, PyLadies Pune, and Recent Talks | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #FOSS and #Sharing https://t.co/pVPZY1trj9 | Jun 14 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #software | Jun 14 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 14 19:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu: #Ubuntu Phone, #Unity 8, New #Kernel, New #Snaps | Jun 14 19:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Prince Sultan University and Money for #RedHat | Jun 14 19:46 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm, using Pidgin. | Jun 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | The IRC helper plugins really help a lot. Also, someone figured out how to make Facebook Chat work again with Purple Facebook. | Jun 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 14 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like Microsoft is gaining influence with just about everyone in the Free Software circles these days. | Jun 14 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not to be used for anything good, but it's like some Ra's al Ghul shit going on. | Jun 14 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Your city is so corrupt that we were able to infiltrate all levels of your government." | Jun 14 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | ReiserFS got some small updates in 4.11.5. | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I guess its still there for legacy reasons. | Jun 14 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | SUSE rushed to make it default and managed to get it merged. | Jun 14 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | So there may be some old systems out there that still use it. | Jun 14 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's been 11 years since SUSE switched to Ext3 (now uses Ext4), so maybe it's time to consider retiring it? | Jun 14 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | I would be using XFS on this laptop except that it's not possible to shrink an existing file system. You have to xfsdump/xfsrestore. | Jun 14 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | But if you're doing a single desktop install with everything on one partition (Ubuntu style) and never plan to mess with it again, that might be a good use case for XFS. | Jun 14 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | The performance of XFS is better in most cases than Ext4,. Ext4 just got some XFS features tacked onto existing Ext3 code. | Jun 14 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat recommends XFS over Ext4 for volumes over 16 TB, even though Ext4 is capable of much larger volumes. | Jun 14 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | But that doesn't affect me. (500 GB SSD) | Jun 14 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is pretty smallish compared with Windows. | Jun 14 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even with everything I install, I'm sitting at 11/50 GB used on /. | Jun 14 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 is roughly 40 GB, and that's *after* Microsoft compressed a ton of the folders and caused a performance overhead of dealing with them. | Jun 14 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | It would be much larger than that otherwise. | Jun 14 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | They need to go on a deleting spree and tell you sorry that Word 95 might not work anymore. | Jun 14 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 14 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | But they never will. | Jun 14 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is just a huge disappointment. | Jun 14 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | The performance sucks and this is after several years of being declared stable. | Jun 14 21:32 |
| cubexyz | I guess lsx is the champ for being the smallest os | Jun 14 21:34 |
| cubexyz | two 256K images | Jun 14 21:34 |
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| cubexyz | I've got no idea how much disk space I got on lsx | Jun 14 22:00 |
| cubexyz | it took me a while just to get to cc to compile | Jun 14 22:00 |
| cubexyz | the kernel is 11,272 bytes | Jun 14 22:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #wannacry #security #debian #gnu #linux | Jun 14 22:09 |
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| cubexyz | lsx is where BKUNIX came from | Jun 14 22:12 |
| cubexyz | http://rk86.com/frolov/bk0011.htm | Jun 14 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rk86.com | Elektronika BK 0011 (?????? ?? 0011) | Jun 14 22:15 | |
| cubexyz | PDP-11/03, probably the least powerful of all the PDP-11 series | Jun 14 22:19 |
| cubexyz | you could have bought a Heathkit H11 computer in 1978 | Jun 14 22:20 |
| cubexyz | $1295 US dollars at the time | Jun 14 22:20 |
| cubexyz | that's the kit... you still had to put it together | Jun 14 22:21 |
| cubexyz | so yes, I think one could run lsx on the H11 | Jun 14 22:27 |
| cubexyz | even had RX01 compatible 8" floppy drives, like the PDP-11/03 | Jun 14 22:28 |
| cubexyz | quite the collector's item now | Jun 14 22:29 |
| cubexyz | but the compile for lsx does work | Jun 14 22:30 |
| cubexyz | compiler | Jun 14 22:30 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Regarding Wayland again....I notice that my system is faster and more stable with fewer odd behaviors under X. | Jun 15 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's crap, but it's crap that's as old as I am. | Jun 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | They've had some time to fix it up. | Jun 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | I see that Wayland is making progress. | Jun 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | A year ago, I'm told that 2D games were slideshows. | Jun 15 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: I think that Reiser4 would have worked out better than BtrFS. | Jun 15 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | The code existed, it did what it did, and they could have forked it and called it something else. | Jun 15 00:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really the work fixing for wayland is also removing crap out of X11 applicaitons as well. | Jun 15 00:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so wayland work I see as required work to clean up existing messes. | Jun 15 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Yeah, I noticed a bunch of cleanup patches that removed support for things like Linux 2.4 on PowerPC. | Jun 15 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Who is using modern X on Linux 2.4 on PowerPC in 2016?" | Jun 15 00:21 |
| cubexyz | I use linux 2.4, but not powerpc :) | Jun 15 00:22 |
| cubexyz | also linux 2.2 | Jun 15 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | All sorts of garbage that nobody ever took out. | Jun 15 00:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with a modern X11 server? | Jun 15 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: Well, probably not with X Server 1.17. | Jun 15 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | You'd have to be using Linux 2.4 with a modern X server on PowerPC. I don't even know if that's possible. | Jun 15 00:23 |
| cubexyz | XFree86 4.3.0 | Jun 15 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | Probably nobody does. | Jun 15 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Like really 4.9 and newer kernels work on old PowerPC hardware. | Jun 15 00:23 |
| cubexyz | is that modern enough for you? :) | Jun 15 00:23 |
| oiaohm | X.org has become filled with stuff to support combinations that really no one should ever use. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | No, the last time I ran XFree86 was 2004. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | It was on Ubuntu 4.10. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Live CD was separate from the installer CD. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | You could check out a demo of the system in Live mode but you had to insert CD 2 and install using the Debian installer. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| cubexyz | oh and I also use XFree86 3.3.3 sometimes | Jun 15 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | They just changed it to say Ubuntu and pull in either the Server or Desktop packages. | Jun 15 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | No KDE or anything. | Jun 15 00:25 |
| cubexyz | I have an interest in historical X | Jun 15 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was a very rough release. | Jun 15 00:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you like running historic systems. running stuff for production there are combinations that just should never exist. | Jun 15 00:25 |
| oiaohm | So like X11 currentl that is currently supported running on a not currently supported kernel should not really happen. | Jun 15 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was pretty cool though. They sent me a disk set and I checked it out on a PC I was running Windows XP on and Ubuntu ran so much better that I stopped and backed up all my files and installed Ubuntu and let it take over the entire disk. | Jun 15 00:26 |
| cubexyz | Canonical used to mail out free CDs | Jun 15 00:26 |
| cubexyz | I think they stopped doing that though | Jun 15 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yep, I think I have them somewhere. | Jun 15 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | They did. | Jun 15 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | They used to send you x86 32 and 64-bit and PowerPC Mac. | Jun 15 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then they dropped you to a limit of one order. Then they dropped PowerPC Mac from the default. Then they eventually dropped the PPC arch entirely, at least officially. | Jun 15 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I know there's Intel Mac images still. | Jun 15 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of people like to buy Macs and run Linux on them for some reason. | Jun 15 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's *legal* for Apple to void the hardware warranty because of it, but they'll probably try to anyway. | Jun 15 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Really Macs running Linux is kind of torture. | Jun 15 00:29 |
| cubexyz | there's some DEC aficionados that still run Vax and PDP-11 | Jun 15 00:29 |
| cubexyz | so I'm not the most impractical :) | Jun 15 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Doesn't Linux have to have an HFS+ boot partition and identify as Mac OS to boot? | Jun 15 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly they buy a Mac then they find out their software is limited then go desperation. | Jun 15 00:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm only running emulators for that | Jun 15 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | The HFS+ driver in Linux is not exactly something you want to use as a production system. It's probably good enough for an EFI boot partition. | Jun 15 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | macOS sucks. | Jun 15 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | They "deprecated" OpenGL and left it at 4.2. | Jun 15 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | So the only way to make your app perform is port it to Metal. | Jun 15 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's blackmail. | Jun 15 00:32 |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple Really the instructions change based on what apple hardware it is. | Jun 15 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | InstallingDebianOn/Apple - Debian Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/r04dv ] | Jun 15 00:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple doesn't allow third party OpenGL or Vulkan driver. At least you can install one on Windows. | Jun 15 00:32 |
| oiaohm | Linux you do have options of more than 1 opengl driver. | Jun 15 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | So all of those older video game ports to Mac on Steam that the developers have in maintenance mode are never going to be ported. | Jun 15 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | So their performance won't get better. | Jun 15 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa supports Vulkan, but each release continues to optimize OpenGL too, so old apps run better over time. | Jun 15 00:33 |
| oiaohm | https://moltengl.com/ yep want standard conforming opengl/vulkan on mac hardware pay. | Jun 15 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moltengl.com | Molten – Vulkan and faster OpenGL ES on iOS and macOS | Jun 15 00:34 | |
| DaemonFC | it says ES | Jun 15 00:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the opengl is still cut back. | Jun 15 00:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://mesamatrix.net/ ES does hide a few very useful extensions. | Jun 15 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mesamatrix.net | The OpenGL vs Mesa matrix | Jun 15 00:35 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I understand there's a feature in Fedora at least that has a stub in place of libgl.so.1 that redirects to the proper version based on the drivers you use. | Jun 15 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | It apparently is to solve the Nvidia driver clobbers Mesa's libgl problem that has been around since forever. | Jun 15 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/58 | Jun 15 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | Ayatana Indicators | sunweaver's NET | Jun 15 00:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Good. It was crap anyway. | Jun 15 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible but you can load the TopIcons Plus extension and put them back up where the system tray used to be. | Jun 15 00:52 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/NVIDIA/libglvnd there is work to cure the libgl.so.1 clobber problem for good. | Jun 15 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - NVIDIA/libglvnd: The GL Vendor-Neutral Dispatch library | Jun 15 01:01 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the old alternative solution of altering the libgl.so.1 link fails badly on PRIME systems when you have intel graphics and Nvidia closed source both needing opengl drivers at the same time. | Jun 15 01:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so this leads to libglvnd being a proper dispatch system. | Jun 15 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I wonder how hard writing a GTK+ 3 theme is. | Jun 15 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I see a lot of them, but no ports of Nodoka or Nimbus. | Jun 15 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Two of the best themes for GNOME 2. | Jun 15 01:04 |
| MinceR | 15 011650 < DaaemonFC> Says he recommends noatime for ext2/3/4 on SSDs to get writes down. He notes that there really aren't many downsides unless you run mutt, and | Jun 15 01:05 |
| MinceR | even then you can work around it. | Jun 15 01:05 |
| MinceR | is it even worth worrying about writes to SSDs now? | Jun 15 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Well, they're pointless writes. | Jun 15 01:05 |
| MinceR | afaik they can take a ridiculous number of writes already, if they live long enough | Jun 15 01:05 |
| MinceR | and firmware bugs are more likely to kill them off | Jun 15 01:06 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Vulkan in standard mandates existence of a dispatch system. | Jun 15 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | So there's that, and they cause CPU and disk activity which can prevent modern mobile platforms from more time in deep sleep. | Jun 15 01:06 |
| MinceR | or they just reach a limit in their counter and give up (intel) | Jun 15 01:06 |
| MinceR | 15 065227 < DaemonFC> GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible | Jun 15 01:08 |
| MinceR | did they pull a shuttlecock? :> | Jun 15 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: "Legacy" system tray icons are put in this little widget on the bottom left that expands out when you mouseover it. | Jun 15 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | TopIcons Plus puts them back where they would be in GNOME 2. | Jun 15 01:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 01:10 |
| MinceR | what do they have instead of "legacy" system tray? | Jun 15 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: All the system stuff in one menu. | Jun 15 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | But you can alter how it behaves with MOAR extensions. | Jun 15 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 15 of them loaded to make GNOME 3 usable again. | Jun 15 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's like 80-90 of them listed in Software on Fedora. | Jun 15 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | I use the top panel but I use Dash To Dock on the bottom set to intelligently hide. | Jun 15 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Gives me back some monitor space. | Jun 15 01:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 15 01:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/8K6tMoo.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/tlc5G ) | Jun 15 01:41 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1840/ | Jun 15 01:51 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/9be29620fd89013486fb005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-21 ) | Jun 15 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-21 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 15 02:30 | |
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| TechDefender | Hello, anybody here? my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 03:38 |
| TechDefender | Besides the EFF, where is a good place to look for that kind of help? | Jun 15 03:38 |
| TechDefender | Also, is there a better way to contact TechRights, besides IRC? all i see is PGP key, but no email address.. | Jun 15 03:42 |
| TechDefender | hello? | Jun 15 03:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn It probably would not have happened if...' | Jun 15 04:28 | |
| schestowitz | [02:04] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 15 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Only Microsoft or a large group photo, which happens to include them? | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875268603704168449 | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/8p54LchZ7U (techrights.org) | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #techrights #gnu #linux | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 04:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2017: New BlackArch Linux ISO and Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion | Techrights | Jun 15 04:30 | |
| schestowitz | I remember his Vista 7 photo op in Japan... | Jun 15 04:30 |
| TechDefender | Hello, my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: hi | Jun 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | what's the nature of this case? | Jun 15 04:31 |
| TechDefender | Restore CDs | Jun 15 04:31 |
| schestowitz | which country are you in if you don't mind me asking | Jun 15 04:32 |
| TechDefender | Which are free to download. but they are saying it is not free (akin to an actual Windows CD) | Jun 15 04:33 |
| TechDefender | USA | Jun 15 04:33 |
| schestowitz | I once spoke to a lawyer here who won a case against Microsoft | Jun 15 04:33 |
| TechDefender | yay | Jun 15 04:33 |
| schestowitz | recent: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/230794-woman-wins-10000-judgment-against-microsoft-for-forced-windows-10-upgrade | Jun 15 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Woman wins $10,000 judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade - ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/r05ia ] | Jun 15 04:33 | |
| schestowitz | maybe pursue this same lawyer | Jun 15 04:33 |
| TechDefender | Nice | Jun 15 04:33 |
| schestowitz | as in her case | Jun 15 04:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users/ | Jun 15 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seattletimes.com | Microsoft draws flak for pushing Windows 10 on PC users | The Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/pf97k ] | Jun 15 04:34 | |
| schestowitz | "The Seattle Times reports that Teri Goldstein, of Sausalito, California, sued Microsoft after a failed Windows 10 upgrade left her system performing poorly, prone to crashing, and reportedly unusable for multiple days. Given the general issues associated with performing in-place upgrades, even successful ones, it’s not surprising that some users would run into problems. Goldstein reached out to Microsoft customer service to attempt to | Jun 15 04:34 |
| schestowitz | resolve her issues, but filed suit against the company once it failed to resolve her problems. Her $10,000 figure reflected estimated lost compensation as well as the cost of a new system." | Jun 15 04:34 |
| TechDefender | thank you. on TechRights.org , what are their emails? | Jun 15 04:34 |
| TechDefender | also, who is there to contact besides the EFF? | Jun 15 04:34 |
| schestowitz | EFF doesn't go after Microsoft | Jun 15 04:35 |
| schestowitz | They'r cowardly on the matter | Jun 15 04:35 |
| schestowitz | same for Apple | Jun 15 04:36 |
| schestowitz | you can try doctorow@craphound.com | Jun 15 04:36 |
| TechDefender | Yes, a few at the EFF , seem disinterested, but the EFF, is big... so the must be someone there interested in the case | Jun 15 04:36 |
| schestowitz | esp. it it concerns DRM somehow | Jun 15 04:36 |
| schestowitz | Doctorow is with the EFF | Jun 15 04:37 |
| schestowitz | he's a Ubuntu user, hates Microsofgt | Jun 15 04:37 |
| TechDefender | i like his speeches | Jun 15 04:37 |
| TechDefender | thanks for his email. should i tell him u sent me? or just that i found his email on the internet? | Jun 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | it's OK | Jun 15 04:38 |
| schestowitz | whichever | Jun 15 04:39 |
| schestowitz | go get em (Microsoft) | Jun 15 04:39 |
| schestowitz | let us know fi you need info | Jun 15 04:40 |
| TechDefender | yes,, any help is appreciated.. not just lawyers, also PR, kinda stuff | Jun 15 04:40 |
| schestowitz | we have a repository of about 10k microsoft-centric articles, plus some leaked evidence from them catalogued | Jun 15 04:40 |
| schestowitz | negative publicity for them helps FOSS | Jun 15 04:41 |
| schestowitz | and helps protect FOSS from their mole, entryism, EEE | Jun 15 04:41 |
| TechDefender | What is the best way to communicate with you guys? IRC? email, phone, etc? | Jun 15 04:41 |
| schestowitz | as many have been sold the lie of "new Microsoft", which is laughable (a PR campaign) | Jun 15 04:41 |
| schestowitz | IRC is good | Jun 15 04:41 |
| schestowitz | more people who can respond | Jun 15 04:42 |
| TechDefender | What is Doctorow's best video? i'll send it to my friend | Jun 15 04:42 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Jun 15 04:44 |
| TechDefender | i'm trying to find it-- the one where he says you have to treat your friends like they've fallen off the life boat and need help, he starts crying at the end | Jun 15 04:45 |
| TechDefender | Is there another IRC room, that is best for getting help with this case? | Jun 15 04:46 |
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| TechDefender | can i PM you? | Jun 15 04:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS...' | Jun 15 05:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875277066610126848 | Jun 15 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rosa #LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Jun 15 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ab8omEe6Fd (www.tuxmachines.org) #mdv | Jun 15 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mandriva #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 15 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 05:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rosa LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Tux Machines | Jun 15 05:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875277251935432705 | Jun 15 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz WiFi | Jun 15 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5gs4BfAISQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 15 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 15 05:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rosa #LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart https://t.co/ab8omEe6Fd...' | Jun 15 05:04 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz...' | Jun 15 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: sorry, was afk | Jun 15 05:15 |
| schestowitz | wife pulled the plug on the laptop by accident | Jun 15 05:15 |
| schestowitz | had to reboot | Jun 15 05:15 |
| schestowitz | didn't see any PMs if you sent any | Jun 15 05:15 |
| schestowitz | I prefer not to receive PMs | Jun 15 05:15 |
| TechDefender | why not? | Jun 15 05:15 |
| schestowitz | long story, doesn't matter now | Jun 15 05:16 |
| schestowitz | workflow-related | Jun 15 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280303589388290 | Jun 15 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Jun 15 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 15 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 15 05:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 05:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Tux Machines | Jun 15 05:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280986690510848 | Jun 15 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 05:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 05:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Dell release new Ubuntu developer computers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 05:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY...' | Jun 15 05:19 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: okay | Jun 15 05:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: https://temp.pm/?xnN9ESdlqTlFD1961EW5eO3C7-30m-mQs5DC8KGsG8Ri7xPQ2M8Jsx5-N | Jun 15 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Temp.PM - Temporary Private Message [ http://ur1.ca/r05rg ] | Jun 15 05:22 | |
| schestowitz | Got it | Jun 15 05:33 |
| TechDefender | what do you think? any ideas? | Jun 15 05:35 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 05:51 |
| TechDefender | hi | Jun 15 05:51 |
| sebsebseb | TechDefender: h | Jun 15 05:53 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875281564128739329 | Jun 15 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 06:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875294915500093440 | Jun 15 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 06:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 15 06:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875295678527934464 | Jun 15 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora | Jun 15 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 26 | Jun 15 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VLCpbqLwtG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dnf #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #f26 | Jun 15 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora 26 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 06:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack...' | Jun 15 06:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican wave scores...' | Jun 15 06:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican...' | Jun 15 06:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT, which are...' | Jun 15 06:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT,...' | Jun 15 06:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875305089342345221 | Jun 15 06:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 06:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 06:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 06:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You watch fake...' | Jun 15 06:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You...' | Jun 15 06:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF' | Jun 15 06:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF | Jun 15 06:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder....' | Jun 15 07:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875306867517526016 | Jun 15 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: I want to write about it | Jun 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | but it can affect the case | Jun 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | so would only do so with consent from you | Jun 15 07:05 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: no, not yet. | Jun 15 07:06 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i am mainly looking for help for him. Well, what do you mean "write about it"? | Jun 15 07:07 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks for respecting his privacy, also :) | Jun 15 07:08 |
| TechDefender | i can ask him a question, if you want, or you can talk to him yourself later. | Jun 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | I understand. | Jun 15 07:10 |
| schestowitz | It can compromise the outcome. | Jun 15 07:10 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: well, we all want the same outcome right? | Jun 15 07:11 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: do you want me to give him your email, phone number, etc? if you want to talk to him? | Jun 15 07:12 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: since, i think we are on the same "side" here, he would probably be happy to talk to you. And you know Cory Doctorow? Is this something that he would be interested in? | Jun 15 07:17 |
| schestowitz | phone is usually a waste of time for these things | Jun 15 07:18 |
| schestowitz | as one can't take note | Jun 15 07:18 |
| schestowitz | based on experience talking to patent people | Jun 15 07:18 |
| schestowitz | no links, no nothing... | Jun 15 07:18 |
| schestowitz | best come to IRC every now and then to drop info, preferably things that can be published | Jun 15 07:19 |
| TechDefender | i think both voice, and messaging combined, is the best way to communicate | Jun 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz | you or others can also write guest posts about it, clarifying how Microsoft erred | Jun 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz | it's on-topic | Jun 15 07:19 |
| oiaohm | Patent is a messy area admitting you knew about something when it come to court damages value goes up. | Jun 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz | voice is good for some things, like family | Jun 15 07:19 |
| schestowitz | not when you need quotes, links etc. | Jun 15 07:20 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is putting together a website, of stuff that he wants to publish | Jun 15 07:20 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjflNTd2kho this is from FOSDEM 2017 I guess you have seen it. | Jun 15 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSDEM 2017: "This is why I drink: a discussion of Fedora's legal state" by Tom Callaway - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qixsn ] | Jun 15 07:24 | |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 07:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you have not seen that video you will like it. | Jun 15 07:25 |
| MinceR | i think i haven't | Jun 15 07:26 |
| MinceR | though "this is why i drink" sounds familiar | Jun 15 07:26 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IYh4E | Jun 15 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitten can't stop kissing cyclist who saved her - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | how do we know he saved it? :-p | Jun 15 07:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe the cat say, "let me down, let me down, please..." | Jun 15 07:40 |
| schestowitz | it's also dangerous, the cat can fall down and get squashed | Jun 15 07:40 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 15 07:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875307421404725248 | Jun 15 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 07:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 07:47 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19149459_305502819877691_5306463021081888161_n.jpg?oh=ce457fd1b12bd816a7d6cfc8cbf79137&oe=59CF14CD | Jun 15 08:21 |
| schestowitz | good! | Jun 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Facebook apologist https://openbytes.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/privacy-social-media-and-the-perception-of-evil/ | Jun 15 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com | Privacy, social media and the perception of evil? – Tim Wilson | Jun 15 08:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mastermikeg/status/875337713481854977 | Jun 15 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mastermikeg: @schestowitz https://t.co/ESCT9r0yDW | Jun 15 09:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://chaos.social/users/pinkprius/updates/17393 | Jun 15 09:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chaos.social | Jun 15 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | "ISPs != judges/cops" | Jun 15 09:28 |
| schestowitz | They'll soon be. You just wait. | Jun 15 09:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 09:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875344042355298305 | Jun 15 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and | Jun 15 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #elementaryOS Loki 0.4.1 https://t.co/PBMbfaPkoN | Jun 15 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 09:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | REVIEWS: Devuan 1.0.0, Slackel 7.0, Lubuntu 17.04, and elementary OS Loki 0.4.1 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 09:29 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can think of ISP as private security problem. Duty of care requirement for users/customers can cause nightmares. | Jun 15 09:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and...' | Jun 15 09:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The BBC is lying, claiming that May...' | Jun 15 09:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn May thinks she's the Queen, but fails...' | Jun 15 09:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875347338885300224 | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 09:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875391059416805376 | Jun 15 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeNAS 11.0 Released and #OpenBSD Server Shown Off | Jun 15 12:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeNAS 11.0 Released and OpenBSD Server Shown Off | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875392559048261632 | Jun 15 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #amdgpu #vulkan #madmax #games #drm | Jun 15 12:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #mesa | Jun 15 12:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux and Cairo | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 #amdgpu #vulkan...' | Jun 15 12:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 #amdgpu #vulkan...' | Jun 15 12:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 12:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For | Jun 15 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 13:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 13:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 13:23 | |
| cubexyz | just avoid Microsoft... don't use their software | Jun 15 13:25 |
| cubexyz | that's the best advice I can think of | Jun 15 13:25 |
| cubexyz | binaries without source just isn't a good situation | Jun 15 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875403194247020545 | Jun 15 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft | Jun 15 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Windows, University on Broken #Voting Systems | Jun 15 13:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: University College London 'Burned' by Microsoft Windows, University on Broken Voting Systems, Coredumps on Web Servers and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 13:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875404072660213761 | Jun 15 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT | Jun 15 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 15 13:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More of today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 13:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 13:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft #Windows, University...' | Jun 15 13:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 13:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 13:28 | |
| cubexyz | can't believe they're still debating doze in Munich | Jun 15 13:33 |
| cubexyz | very lame | Jun 15 13:34 |
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| razielle_tzu | yeah but isn't the mayor a fan boy? | Jun 15 13:49 |
| cubexyz | well microsoft wants to move German HQ to Munich so there's probably all sorts of nonsense going on | Jun 15 13:54 |
| cubexyz | Dieter is a fan of Microsoft because it's probably expedient for him | Jun 15 13:57 |
| cubexyz | so who knows what the real deal is | Jun 15 13:57 |
| razielle_tzu | M$ and Dieter will but no one else | Jun 15 13:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 14:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/875413195581796352 | Jun 15 14:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:04 | |
| cubexyz | a certain AC/DC song comes to mind :-/ | Jun 15 14:05 |
| cubexyz | politicians who know almost nothing making IT policy is stupid | Jun 15 14:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i agree but it's not likely to change much anywhere | Jun 15 14:06 |
| cubexyz | my own city's municipal IT is a bad joke | Jun 15 14:09 |
| razielle_tzu | same with my county's from what i've heard | Jun 15 14:10 |
| razielle_tzu | i mean my mum's partner works for it and has said if i can really do what i do for the computer club i'm more qualified than 3/4 of the staff there | Jun 15 14:10 |
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| cubexyz | tried to pay a parking ticket online (city of oshawa web site) | Jun 15 14:17 |
| cubexyz | not only did it not work on firefox on linux, but also not in firefox on windows | Jun 15 14:17 |
| razielle_tzu | o.O | Jun 15 14:18 |
| cubexyz | only IE on doze worked | Jun 15 14:18 |
| razielle_tzu | running a small LTSP network with a custom image and a tiny webserver makes me more qualified than 3/4 of the local council staff | Jun 15 14:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the early ISPs used FreeBSD so in many ways things have become worse | Jun 15 14:22 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jun 15 14:23 |
| cubexyz | but city council here is useless | Jun 15 14:23 |
| cubexyz | incompetent I'd say | Jun 15 14:23 |
| razielle_tzu | lots are | Jun 15 14:24 |
| cubexyz | but on the plus side there's a lot of smart european programmers | Jun 15 14:25 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Jun 15 14:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 15 14:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder if OpenIndiana would run on this laptop at all. | Jun 15 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | I used OpenSolaris on a junk Compaq laptop that I got at Walmart.... | Jun 15 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | It surprised me that it worked. | Jun 15 14:38 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo #freesw #foss #libreoffice...' | Jun 15 14:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:40 | |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't tried anything but linux and BSD in ages | Jun 15 14:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/157/ | Jun 15 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 157 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 14:45 | |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/159/ | Jun 15 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 159 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 14:51 | |
| cubexyz | not clicking on that | Jun 15 14:59 |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 14:59 |
| MinceR | it's sfw | Jun 15 15:00 |
| MinceR | the "Dick" is a character called Richard | Jun 15 15:00 |
| cubexyz | there's tons of interesting OSes | Jun 15 15:03 |
| razielle_tzu | i know, i just haven't played | Jun 15 15:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875422643234775040 | Jun 15 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 15:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 15:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:06 | |
| cubexyz | Plan 9 was kind of dead but... | Jun 15 15:10 |
| cubexyz | https://notamonadtutorial.com/harvey-an-operating-system-with-plan-9-s-shadow-3081414e5f0b | Jun 15 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notamonadtutorial.com | Harvey, an operating system with Plan 9's shadow – This is not a Monad tutorial [ http://ur1.ca/r098o ] | Jun 15 15:10 | |
| cubexyz | I do think Slack is better for work | Jun 15 15:12 |
| cubexyz | even for games it's not bad, although there's some hand-turning needed | Jun 15 15:12 |
| cubexyz | I was quite happy running Linux 2.4 for a lot of things | Jun 15 15:17 |
| cubexyz | Loki and LGP games, scanning, printing, web server, etc | Jun 15 15:17 |
| cubexyz | but the web _browser_ that was a different story | Jun 15 15:17 |
| cubexyz | I never found a good solution for that | Jun 15 15:18 |
| MinceR | the web sucks massively | Jun 15 15:18 |
| MinceR | it has become fashionable to only support CrashKit and Blink | Jun 15 15:18 |
| cubexyz | I got stuck on icecat 2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 15 15:18 |
| MinceR | i'm mostly running palemoon | Jun 15 15:19 |
| cubexyz | can't remember how old that was, but it must be pretty old | Jun 15 15:19 |
| MinceR | but even allowing all scripts and maliciousness i still get a lot of missing functionality | Jun 15 15:19 |
| MinceR | recently i tried to view an embedded map, couldn't see it in palemoon or iceweasel, had to use rekonq | Jun 15 15:19 |
| cubexyz | what, google maps? | Jun 15 15:21 |
| cubexyz | there's not too many web types testing on old browsers | Jun 15 15:22 |
| cubexyz | I'm one of the few | Jun 15 15:22 |
| cubexyz | I test on FC1, vector (various versions), slack, openbsd, chromeos, mint | Jun 15 15:23 |
| MinceR | no, it was osm-based | Jun 15 15:23 |
| MinceR | this one: http://xn--allestrungen-9ib.de/stoerung/deutsche-telekom/karte/ | Jun 15 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xn--allestrungen-9ib.de | Telekom Störung? Aktuelle Probleme und Störungsstelle | Alle Störungen [ http://ur1.ca/r09bn ] | Jun 15 15:23 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, didn't work on vector... not surprised | Jun 15 15:26 |
| cubexyz | works on google chrome 56 though | Jun 15 15:27 |
| cubexyz | ah, openstreetmap | Jun 15 15:28 |
| cubexyz | and I spoke too soon... it actually did work on vector | Jun 15 15:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 15 15:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for @jeremycorbyn ...' | Jun 15 15:28 | |
| cubexyz | on vector it switches to google maps | Jun 15 15:28 |
| cubexyz | vector is stuck on firefox 16.02 :) | Jun 15 15:29 |
| cubexyz | and guess what... I'm also stuck on HOMM3 1.3.1a | Jun 15 15:30 |
| MinceR | and OSM itself works fine on palemoon | Jun 15 15:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for...' | Jun 15 15:30 | |
| cubexyz | is OSM foss? | Jun 15 15:34 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 15 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875435421500555264 | Jun 15 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 15:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh yeah I remember now | Jun 15 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437143765565440 | Jun 15 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Jun 15 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #licensing #sharing | Jun 15 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 15:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 15:39 | |
| cubexyz | palemoon gave me XPCOMGlueLoad error | Jun 15 15:39 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting Started with Open Source Licenses https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 #freesw...' | Jun 15 15:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437502508613632 | Jun 15 15:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux | Jun 15 15:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pLrq4vDauE (www.tuxmachines.org) performance | Jun 15 15:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark | Jun 15 15:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 15:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 15:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 15:40 | |
| cubexyz | I got seamonkey on slack... it uses a lot less memory than chrome | Jun 15 15:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 15:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 15:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875439539732525056 | Jun 15 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You're all in this together, playing partisan...' | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You're all in this together,...' | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Trump Tried to Convince NSA Chief to Absolve Him of Any Russian Collusion: Report | Jun 15 15:48 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw | Jun 15 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If Doom was done today (Part 1) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r09hr ] | Jun 15 15:48 | |
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| schestowitz | haha, classic | Jun 15 15:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875440872539602944 | Jun 15 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw | Jun 15 15:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 15 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 15:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 15:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 15:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 15:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives of many...' | Jun 15 15:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives...' | Jun 15 16:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented decades of...' | Jun 15 16:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5KwmKg2.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/5KwmKg2 ) | Jun 15 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Right way to use a fidget spinner | Jun 15 16:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Right way to use a fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 16:02 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/original/N/A/8/J/NA8J6Mi (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/iUIbs ) | Jun 15 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pick your fighter - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 16:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented...' | Jun 15 16:08 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/a/8O5z7 | Jun 15 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 15 16:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 16:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has appointed Murdoch's...' | Jun 15 16:17 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Obviously, NVIDIA users didn't pay enough for the device. | Jun 15 16:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has...' | Jun 15 16:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May: did Murdoch...' | Jun 15 16:19 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 16:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May:...' | Jun 15 16:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Picard just made some Vorbis files unplayable with gstreamer-based apps. | Jun 15 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875452475142135808 | Jun 15 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and | Jun 15 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like I need to rip them again and hand tag them all. | Jun 15 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CyberSecurity, Cryptocoin, and SMB | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD' | Jun 15 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ShakespeareITW/status/875452865699094532 | Jun 15 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ShakespeareITW https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875453189738213380 | Jun 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Glibc, KDevelop, Stack Overflow Survey, and PostgreSQL | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TucsonCode retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 16:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454116826300416 | Jun 15 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Jun 15 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee | Jun 15 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 16:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA...' | Jun 15 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @programminbuddy retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454934379921408 | Jun 15 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir | Jun 15 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.26.3 and More https://t.co/IPRVi0jKNl | Jun 15 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: IBM & Canonical, LXD Containers. Mir 0.26.3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875455282469625857 | Jun 15 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875456046134734848 | Jun 15 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More) | Jun 15 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j2CNCOMh2u (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #gnu | Jun 15 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 15 16:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers, Red Hat,and Fedora (New ISO and More) | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ErrorTeamWeb retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 16:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 16:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 16:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More)...' | Jun 15 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457092684881920 | Jun 15 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and | Jun 15 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a | Jun 15 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux | Jun 15 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 16:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wonder Boy, Dying Light, LandTraveller, and Two Worlds II | Tux Machines | Jun 15 16:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 16:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457501034029057 | Jun 15 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI | Jun 15 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 17:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457917117374466 | Jun 15 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL | Jun 15 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 15 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines | Jun 15 17:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 17:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers and Howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @codeappsweb favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 17:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 17:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI #freesw' | Jun 15 17:04 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/0VGDTsk.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/0VGDTsk ) | Jun 15 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today | Jun 15 17:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 17:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL #howto #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 17:15 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/DPHEaz3.gifv | Jun 15 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "Damn, It's a good thing I didn't trip over that"!! | Jun 15 17:15 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In case you didn't notice, it's Russia :) | Jun 15 17:18 |
| MinceR | i noticed | Jun 15 17:18 |
| MinceR | from the license plate :> | Jun 15 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah %) | Jun 15 17:22 |
| oiaohm | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/15/pirate-bay-european-court-of-justice-rules-infringing-copyright-torrent-sites this will get interesting. | Jun 15 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | European court of justice rules Pirate Bay is infringing copyright | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/r0a1x ] | Jun 15 17:25 | |
| MinceR | business as usual | Jun 15 17:26 |
| MinceR | they'll become even more hidden | Jun 15 17:26 |
| MinceR | also, fuck the EU | Jun 15 17:26 |
| MinceR | they're against every single one of their alleged principles | Jun 15 17:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875461642280091648 | Jun 15 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 | Jun 15 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1VoJRJF00Y (techrights.org) | Jun 15 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 17:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 | Techrights | Jun 15 17:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 https://t.co/1VoJRJF00Y' | Jun 15 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker Where are you off...' | Jun 15 17:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Mir goes on in a diminished capacity. | Jun 15 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Distribution-specific software almost always dies off, even if it is under an open source license. | Jun 15 17:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker Where are...' | Jun 15 17:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Because you can. https://t.co/9pAqyTRJBf' | Jun 15 17:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker The approval rates of...' | Jun 15 17:48 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: one of the common arguments to those who attempt to avoid GPL license that torrents are not the derived they should be able to patch a GPL work without following GPL. But that case says that is not the case. | Jun 15 17:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker The approval...' | Jun 15 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: o | Jun 15 18:35 |
| schestowitz | on UPC | Jun 15 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Do you know who filed the complaint? | Jun 15 18:35 |
| schestowitz | And if yes, can you tell me privately (not for publication)? | Jun 15 18:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875494828880035840 | Jun 15 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise | Jun 15 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Authentication in Client Mode https://t.co/St7qRcKGi7 | Jun 15 19:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security | Jun 15 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication in Client Mode | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 19:27 | |
| schestowitz | #cnn trying to max up the number of stories with #trump and #russia in the headline http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/russia-sanctions-senate-trump/index.html as if no demonstrable scandals exist? | Jun 15 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Senate passes Russia sanctions bill, pushing back against Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com [ http://ur1.ca/r0aqp ] | Jun 15 19:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875494916264275968 | Jun 15 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise | Jun 15 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Authentication in Client Mode https://t.co/St7qRcKGi7 | Jun 15 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security | Jun 15 19:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875500750239129600 | Jun 15 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN | Jun 15 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #debian #webkit #freesw | Jun 15 19:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 15 19:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You pinhead can only play pseudo-macho but...' | Jun 15 19:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump From steak with ketchup to meatloaf sandwiches:...' | Jun 15 19:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875502316719403010 | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free/Libre Software in the Public Sector in the #UK, | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Spain, and #France (#Bolton, #Galicia, and #Arles) | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sUAFDFAV0w (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 19:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free/Libre Software in the Public Sector in the UK, Spain, and France (Bolton, Galicia, and Arles) | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875503025284157440 | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mini-ITX guts https://t.co/8maP68ra1o | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 15 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have Mini-ITX guts | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 15 19:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Free/Libre Software in the Public Sector in the...' | Jun 15 20:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have Mini-ITX guts...' | Jun 15 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875504575377231872 | Jun 15 20:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/ThwpvPOwIf | Jun 15 20:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jun 15 23:07 | |
| TechDefender | Hello, what other groups are like the EFF, Repair.org, FSF.org ? any others? | Jun 15 23:07 |
| cubexyz | since you mention repair.org I'll add ifixit.com | Jun 16 00:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 16 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 16 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 00:00 | |
| TechDefender | thanks. Who is the most 'powerful, influential' person, against Microsoft? | Jun 16 00:01 |
| TechDefender | for PR, lawsuit, etc | Jun 16 00:02 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jun 16 00:02 |
| TechDefender | is there a list somewhere? :) | Jun 16 00:03 |
| cubexyz | there was groklaw but I'm not sure if it's still active | Jun 16 00:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.groklaw.net/ | Jun 16 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jun 16 00:04 | |
| TechDefender | btw, if anyone sent me any PM's or messages today, i didn't get them. please send again | Jun 16 00:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the Linux world is like hurding cats. There is no real super strong absolute dominate leaders. | Jun 16 00:07 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: haha, well any help is appreciated :) | Jun 16 00:08 |
| cubexyz | David Boies was the DOJ lawyer in the United States vs Microsoft case | Jun 16 00:08 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: thanks | Jun 16 00:10 |
| cubexyz | the anti-Bill Gates is really people like Henry Spencer and Richard Stallman | Jun 16 00:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: like a open source project needing legal advice http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ you have this group. | Jun 16 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 16 00:11 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Spencer | Jun 16 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Henry Spencer - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c7i ] | Jun 16 00:11 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: multi staff from SFLC give presentations through the year. | Jun 16 00:12 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy then you have this group and then EFF and a few others. | Jun 16 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Software Freedom Conservancy - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c84 ] | Jun 16 00:15 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: all of them are willing to attempt to deal with companies doing the wrong things. And at time this includes Microsoft like when microsoft iso image writing tool they released closed source turned out to be based on a GPL protected work. | Jun 16 00:16 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thanks! | Jun 16 00:20 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 00:21 |
| TechDefender | yeh, Eben Moglen is great. But i remember reading that he retired/left the FSF? what happened | Jun 16 00:22 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: u have more info on why/how Henry Spencer fights MS? | Jun 16 00:26 |
| TechDefender | Is there someone in charge of TechRights.org to contact? | Jun 16 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | you can contact in the channel | Jun 16 00:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't understand | Jun 16 01:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz:hey, thanks for helping before, if u sent me a message, or PM i didn't get it, even if i was signed in (my scrollback was set too low) | Jun 16 01:00 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 01:27 |
| MinceR | http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-16/chinese-satellite-breaks-quantum-entanglement-distance-record/8620240 | Jun 16 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Chinese scientists use satellite to smash quantum entanglement distance record - Science News - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/r0csk ] | Jun 16 01:40 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/LWn8e | Jun 16 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imaginary Castles Art - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 01:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/15/seven-percent-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows-and-thats-not-even-the-scary-part/ | Jun 16 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The surprising number of American adults who think chocolate milk comes from brown cows - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/r0cve ] | Jun 16 01:51 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So much for Microsoft Office for the Web... | Jun 16 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | "I need to edit a DOCX document (because the company that requested to fill out the form doesn't have proper LaTeX templates, blehhh) while preserving the formatting as much as possible. MS Office Online was indeed the first thing I tried, but... Believe it or not, it doesn't actually preserve formatting. Yeap. >_< Not only that, but it (yes, the web app itself) crashes every time I copy-paste table contents. And it's overall hilario | Jun 16 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | usly slow. | Jun 16 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to run MS Word Viewer on Wine, and it works, but... It can't handle DOCX files without converting them into DOC, which, guess what, doesn't preserve formatting! Now I could try and see if MS Office 365 works on Wine, but last I heard it wasn't working that well. | Jun 16 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Next time I might just say screw the formatting and do it in Google Docs... Or LibreOffice Online." | Jun 16 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Found on Phoronix | Jun 16 01:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 01:54 |
| MinceR | m$ office won't even preserve formatting between the same version | Jun 16 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It depends on which Office format you're using and which version of Office and how many times and in what ways you have edited the file. | Jun 16 01:55 |
| MinceR | and on which computer you open it | Jun 16 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's why I gave up and purchased StarOffice 8.0 back in the 90s for school stuff. | Jun 16 01:56 |
| MinceR | and sometimes it just reflows the document for no reason | Jun 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: I got up to the register and it rang up for a penny. | Jun 16 01:56 |
| MinceR | and no two attempts to do so are alike | Jun 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | The manager said "Eh, just give it to him.". | Jun 16 01:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, maybe not 90s. | Jun 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | When *was* 8.0? | Jun 16 01:56 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: in other words: News Flash, 7% of Americans don't take surveys seriously :P | Jun 16 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | I got the version wrong. | Jun 16 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 16 01:57 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're an optimist, aren't you? :> | Jun 16 01:57 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: nice Castles though :) | Jun 16 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | It must have been 5 or 5.1 | Jun 16 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I got it not long after a computer with Windows 98. | Jun 16 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | It took a while to install it. :P | Jun 16 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I do remember the register thing because I was prepared to pay what the shelf said for it. Staples had a lot of non-MS stuff on the shelf back then. | Jun 16 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Surprisingly, Walmart did too. | Jun 16 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart used to sell Linux box sets. For a while, they even had a desktop PC with a Linux distribution on it. | Jun 16 01:59 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: more like: i understand why people think it is funny to check YES, to "Does chocolate milk come from cows?" :) | Jun 16 01:59 |
| TechDefender | *brown cows | Jun 16 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | Can't recall. Oddball distro. Wasn't around long. | Jun 16 02:00 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're in for some surprises then :> | Jun 16 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.wired.com/2007/10/200-everex-gree/ | Jun 16 02:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/r0cx5 ] | Jun 16 02:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Wired had the article. | Jun 16 02:00 |
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| DaemonFC | No, it wasn't Ubuntu. | Jun 16 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was called gOS or something. | Jun 16 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOS_(operating_system) | Jun 16 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | gOS (operating system) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0cxc ] | Jun 16 02:02 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wywoKcW.jpg | Jun 16 02:07 |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/e2c1e4e165ff1c7dd1f84ad44c0926fe/tumblr_oqpbpqcvaZ1rn7bzro1_1280.jpg | Jun 16 02:14 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/a3o44fu.jpg (gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/EOAZ5 ) | Jun 16 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comic Con-victs - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 02:22 | |
| MinceR | http://capesforhire.com/4/ | Jun 16 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-capesforhire.com | Capes For Hires | Jun 16 02:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 16 03:54 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can always PM if I am at the keyboard or afk that will be another matter. | Jun 16 04:01 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 04:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @ggreenwald @theintercept These are, in my experience,...' | Jun 16 04:02 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I do support in winehq so I get people who PM all the time. But when it comes to legal prefer to remain in public channels in cases I stuff something up and others point out what I have forgot or missed. | Jun 16 04:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: and I am about to be AFK again. | Jun 16 04:05 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: being op in a few channels changing status for afk has caused a few issues. | Jun 16 04:05 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: okay, i can talk with you later, if you are busy | Jun 16 04:06 |
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| schestowitz | [06:27] <MinceR> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 04:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Jun 16 04:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875624568479559681 | Jun 16 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ThwpvPOwIf | Jun 16 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 04:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 04:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 16 04:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 04:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks I wonder if they even care. Did...' | Jun 16 06:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875655952367669249 | Jun 16 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ | Jun 16 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 06:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 16 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? | Tux Machines | Jun 16 06:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 06:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ ...' | Jun 16 06:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875657995476140032 | Jun 16 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux | Jun 16 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vZqGIfS5Fs (www.tuxmachines.org) #steam | Jun 16 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 16 06:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 06:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS (Debian) and New Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 16 06:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 06:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MelindaMcC1 https://twitter.com/MelindaMcC1/status/875658781450944512 | Jun 16 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz Just OMG. | Jun 16 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 06:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 06:27 | |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft hypocritically initiated these cases though it had abused its position for decades in worse ways http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eu-poised-to-fine-google-more-than-1-billion-in-antitrust-case-ft-report-2017-06-16 #google #antitrust | Jun 16 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU poised to fine Google more than $1 billion in antitrust case: FT report - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/r0e4f ] | Jun 16 06:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 favourited '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 06:34 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its not like google is 100 percent clean. | Jun 16 06:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875662849124831232 | Jun 16 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 06:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft in the Details | Tux Machines | Jun 16 06:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 06:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 company that just...' | Jun 16 06:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875666016805715969 | Jun 16 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 07:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 07:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875676204426252288 | Jun 16 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 07:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP Lapse | Tux Machines | Jun 16 07:29 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: right | Jun 16 07:34 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it was | Jun 16 07:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with the google fine the question is will the EU have another hit a Microsoft. | Jun 16 07:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875676724985565184 | Jun 16 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 07:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 07:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects...' | Jun 16 07:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects Putin!' | Jun 16 07:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV' | Jun 16 08:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV | Jun 16 08:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875686634125238273 | Jun 16 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf | Jun 16 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 16 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 16 08:11 | |
| MinceR | 16 101706 < schestowitz> I don't get it | Jun 16 08:21 |
| MinceR | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowyourmeme.com | I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter | Know Your Meme [ http://ur1.ca/r0el0 ] | Jun 16 08:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf #howto #gnu #linux #unix' | Jun 16 08:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch on TV...' | Jun 16 08:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch...' | Jun 16 08:25 | |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCYemqtWsAEx2a-.jpg:large | Jun 16 08:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And BTW, stop misleading/deluding yourself. You clearly...' | Jun 16 08:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875696563712122880 | Jun 16 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub | Jun 16 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 's #Atom 1.18 https://t.co/ZBfoAFqHjw | Jun 16 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #git #freesw | Jun 16 08:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 08:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Gitter, git-cinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and GitHub's Atom 1.18 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 08:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub...' | Jun 16 09:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Since Jo Cox was murdered by a...' | Jun 16 09:02 | |
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| schestowitz | As with the "Gartner tax", the idea is that it's a sort of silence/gag tax. You must pay them, otherwise they slam you http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Jun 16 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1cntq ] | Jun 16 09:24 | |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <MinceR> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 09:25 |
| schestowitz | That's actually pretty funny, but not so P-C | Jun 16 09:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 16 09:25 |
| MinceR | i don't insist on being PC :> | Jun 16 09:26 |
| schestowitz | you are anonymous | Jun 16 09:26 |
| MinceR | i am legion | Jun 16 09:27 |
| schestowitz | so you don't forget, you never forgive, either | Jun 16 09:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 16 09:34 |
| oiaohm | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/16/0232247/amazon-granted-a-patent-that-prevents-in-store-shoppers-from-online-price-checking | Jun 16 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Amazon Granted a Patent That Prevents In-Store Shoppers From Online Price Checking - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r0erk ] | Jun 16 09:35 | |
| oiaohm | Hmm | Jun 16 09:35 |
| oiaohm | Looking like vpn by wifi is going to come more important. | Jun 16 09:36 |
| MinceR | >in-store Wi-Fi | Jun 16 09:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 09:37 |
| MinceR | i have cellular | Jun 16 09:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: next question how long until stores become cellular black spots. | Jun 16 09:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 09:37 |
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| MinceR | next question: how long will said stores have customers after that | Jun 16 09:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I know of a few stores here you are lucky to get half a bar on cellular. | Jun 16 09:38 |
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| XRevan86 | If I will be travelling and somebody will say that my vocabulary is not P-C and that offends somebody, I have a possible solution for that: I can say the word "slave" offends me :). | Jun 16 09:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cellphonesignalbooster.us | How To Jam Cell Phone Signal Legally [ http://ur1.ca/r0esi ] | Jun 16 09:43 | |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how many "offendable" words like that are there… | Jun 16 09:44 |
| MinceR | slav? | Jun 16 09:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep, that's the etymology. | Jun 16 09:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently there used to be a very big lot of Slav slaves in Western Europe. | Jun 16 09:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 09:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I like the Dalai Lama he has believes that there is no offensive word it is context. So he has searched out as many offensive words then used them in contexts where they are not offensive. | Jun 16 09:45 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Which one? | Jun 16 09:45 |
| MinceR | nice | Jun 16 09:46 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: 14th Dalai Lama the current one. | Jun 16 09:46 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I think I heard him saying other cool stuff too. | Jun 16 09:47 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: he has used all of the common swearing words on tv without been censored. | Jun 16 09:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, they even provide an excuse for blocking cellular signals in stores | Jun 16 09:48 |
| MinceR | how convenient | Jun 16 09:48 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: https://youtu.be/rg4mE1x1luw is that it? | Jun 16 09:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-His Holiness the Dalai Lama's speech during Sikyong swearing-in ceremony - YouTube | Jun 16 09:48 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I guess they simply wouldn't dare censor him :) | Jun 16 09:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hm? | Jun 16 09:49 |
| XRevan86 | > MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 09:49 |
| XRevan86 | ah, this | Jun 16 09:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The best place to block cellular signals at is of course the one where a political protest is going on %) | Jun 16 10:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 16 10:05 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: the magical tower losing power problem. | Jun 16 10:05 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ? | Jun 16 10:16 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: it the one of the common things to see happen. Were like 112 still works with full bars yet on your normal carrier you have nothing. | Jun 16 10:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @adciardelli https://twitter.com/adciardelli/status/875709023059943425 | Jun 16 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The Andrea D. Ciardelli Daily! | Jun 16 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/h31UmJ6wkI (paper.li) Thanks to @mraz_sic | Jun 16 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @unoscribacchino @tuxmachines #palestine #gaza | Jun 16 10:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Andrea D. Ciardelli Daily | Jun 16 10:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/16/b556344db5e64e89.png | Jun 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WEu6A4l.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/WEu6A4l ) | Jun 16 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | fear me! fear me! fea... WTF!? why doesn't it fear me? | Jun 16 13:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fear me! fear me! fea... WTF!? why doesn't it fear me? - GIF on Imgur | Jun 16 13:03 | |
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| MinceR | "I don't like gun powder. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." >> http://i.imgur.com/CNAM6s0.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/SahFm ) | Jun 16 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Gun powder art | Jun 16 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hey that's looks cool. Oh wait what is he doi- oooooh - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 13:38 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1843/ | Jun 16 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Opening Crawl | Jun 16 13:54 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/dd1-10.jpg | Jun 16 13:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo #freesw #foss #libreoffice...' | Jun 16 14:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 16 14:08 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/nXP4mbJ.jpg | Jun 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the links, funny | Jun 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | How to install malicious spying back-doored malware on a USB to trick people into running... #vista10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 16 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | How to Create a Bootable Windows 10 USB on Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0fhs ] | Jun 16 15:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jun 16 15:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875791554572681216 | Jun 16 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography | Jun 16 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Jun 16 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wDATfkkmCc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 15:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #security | Jun 16 15:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 15:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875793078803726336 | Jun 16 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets | Jun 16 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Video Performance https://t.co/iZJY81w8sp | Jun 16 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) #android #raspi3 #raspi #gnu #linux | Jun 16 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Better Video Performance | Jun 16 15:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3...' | Jun 16 15:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Jun 16 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9yaDh4YXy2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 16 15:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 15:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Tux Machines | Jun 16 15:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is...' | Jun 16 15:14 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgrB5P-rDLw | Jun 16 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TS100: The open source Weller-Killer for 50 bucks - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0fiy ] | Jun 16 15:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875797160868147201 | Jun 16 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 15:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 15:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 15:29 |
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| MinceR | http://donthitsave.com/comic/2017/06/06/imac-pro | Jun 16 15:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 15:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875800346941161472 | Jun 16 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 | Jun 16 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch https://t.co/roMTQjYyMd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A look at latest #tails | Jun 16 15:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #tor | Jun 16 15:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 Stretch | Tux Machines | Jun 16 15:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 15:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @gurnaik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 15:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 15:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875802746791874563 | Jun 16 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Jun 16 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Tux Machines | Jun 16 15:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 15:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 16:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines | Jun 16 16:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Jun 16 16:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QJ5Gt4reUy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 16:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Tux Machines | Jun 16 16:02 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 16 16:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That...' | Jun 16 16:14 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 16:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/875808812078252032 | Jun 16 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 16:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 16:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875808858278686721 | Jun 16 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Jun 16 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV (www.tuxmachines.org) review. | Jun 16 16:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #solaris #freesw | Jun 16 16:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Tux Machines | Jun 16 16:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV...' | Jun 16 16:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 16:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano https://twitter.com/mmtoscano/status/875810240846938112 | Jun 16 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @adymitruk Very nice to see this! Hope | Jun 16 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland is finally ready for prime time soon, so I can | Jun 16 16:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have it on #Fedora. :) | Jun 16 16:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875811092253077508 | Jun 16 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to | Jun 16 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 https://t.co/xJuuYNw8pT | Jun 16 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #gnome #gnu #linux | Jun 16 16:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 16:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race. | Jun 16 16:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux will displace everything else. The naysayers will | Jun 16 16:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb | Jun 16 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #pixel | Jun 16 16:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #googlemaps #games #androidauto | Jun 16 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 16:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my | Jun 16 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mom a Linux / KDE laptop this weekend. One more user | Jun 16 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rescued from the perils of proprietary (twitter.com) | Jun 16 17:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software. :D | Jun 16 17:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 17:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', #Cars, #Erebus | Jun 16 17:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833145383432192 | Jun 16 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "It's the absolute lack of progress since | Jun 16 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2011" Nice joke :) | Jun 16 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux | Jun 16 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit https://t.co/06pYzL0Z0a (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 17:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Events: LinuxCon Beijing 2017, Linux Plumbers Conference 2017, and Diversity Empowerment Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 16 17:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux #PlumbersConference 2017,...' | Jun 16 17:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833415303561216 | Jun 16 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux, and have | Jun 16 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | been so since about 2007" Linux had ZFS with Boot | Jun 16 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environments, Zones, Dtrace since 2007? (twitter.com) | Jun 16 17:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833961779482624 | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Then reflect 2 seconds: on the one hand you | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have a dominant system supported by major companies | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called Linux. | Jun 16 17:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834128930885632 | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines On the other hand a very modest system | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supported by a few companies, and the distribution | Jun 16 17:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | maintained by a few volunteers. | Jun 16 17:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834128830275584 | Jun 16 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 17:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX #freesw #google #voten #opensuco #ura...' | Jun 16 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834366139801603 | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Do you still feel that writing an article | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the sake of bashing a modest project with no | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pretention is so enjoyable? | Jun 16 17:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834624131424256 | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung #tizenos #linux #google | Jun 16 17:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and Android | Tux Machines | Jun 16 17:57 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt #samsung #tizenos #linux #google...' | Jun 16 17:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835243156123648 | Jun 16 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, | Jun 16 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Foundations Team and More https://t.co/0rVnCrCjtQ | Jun 16 18:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 18:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu Foundations Team and More | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 18:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835847580450817 | Jun 16 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG | Jun 16 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ansible #gnu #linux #server | Jun 16 18:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #codenvy #container #anaconda | Jun 16 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG #ansible #gnu #linux #server...' | Jun 16 18:03 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MgbiBTD.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/r/funny/pne56 ) | Jun 16 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's your turn - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 18:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/suzettepetillo/status/875836210471501824 | Jun 16 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @suzettepetillo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 18:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 18:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837255562166273 | Jun 16 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX | Jun 16 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 18:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers and Hadoop, Containers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837760057335808 | Jun 16 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm | Jun 16 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 16 18:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 18:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 18:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875838603800215552 | Jun 16 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro | Jun 16 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games for #gnu #linuux | Jun 16 18:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro #games for #gnu #linuux' | Jun 16 18:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839149454102528 | Jun 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... | Jun 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #firefox #plasma #gcc #atom | Jun 16 18:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software, KDE, GNOME, Mozilla... | Tux Machines | Jun 16 18:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839403998015489 | Jun 16 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l | Jun 16 18:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted to Phoronix, I don't think that whatever happens to ffmpeg is the scariest thing about Ubuntu. Ubuntu does a lot of things that are just downright stupid /and/or scary, but making the packages more secure by default isn't one of them. I use Fedora because Ubuntu has a disease of NIH and making worse implementations of existing stuff and then making you live with their weird Ubuntu-only bugs for years before finally chuc | Jun 16 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | king their homegrown disaster for what every sane distribution was doing anyway. I said several years ago that ayatana and Unity were a bad idea and would ultimately just end up wasting developer resources, time, and money, but since then, Ubuntu has also thrown away their own display server and their init daemon, and Snappy is probably next. I'd say certainly next looking at the state of support for it outside of Ubuntu. Ubunt | Jun 16 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | u *also* supports Flatpak, but many other distributions only support Flatpak by default, so you can build a bloated Snap image and tell many of your users to add a repository and install Snap themselves or give them a Flatpak and it works everywhere. So, OMG Ubuntu! talked to Ken Vandine of Canonical, and apparently they're going to have to throw away "hundreds" of patches that are never going upstream. | Jun 16 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839985479557120 | Jun 16 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 16 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 16 18:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 16 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo #freesw #firefox...' | Jun 16 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l' | Jun 16 18:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are a crazy fool. Now China...' | Jun 16 18:22 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+Teardown/92915 | Jun 16 19:13 |
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| cubexyz | I'm sure ifixit thought the surface was a turd | Jun 16 19:36 |
| cubexyz | let's see if I'm right | Jun 16 19:36 |
| cubexyz | yup | Jun 16 19:37 |
| cubexyz | repairability zero out of ten | Jun 16 19:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Champagne in Russia and China today. https://t.co/ArT36zjffg' | Jun 16 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thediplomat.com | How Mao Zedong Benefited From the Cuban Missile Crisis | The Diplomat | Jun 16 20:11 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: and it s true zero most of the ones ifixit has historically given zero to there as been at least some way to get it back into one piece. | Jun 16 20:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the new surface laptop no matter the trick you use its stuffed. | Jun 16 20:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and surface like laptops is why airlines are looking to ban laptops. Notice no way to remove/disable battery. | Jun 16 20:29 |
| MinceR | are they going to take apart laptops on the plane or what? | Jun 16 20:31 |
| MinceR | afaict most laptops nowadays don't have an easily removable battery | Jun 16 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Yoga 900 does. | Jun 16 20:35 |
| MinceR | most laptops aren't yoga 900s | Jun 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Flip it over, take out some T4 screws, remove some more T4 screws from the battery, unplug battery, plug new one back in, and put the screws back in. | Jun 16 20:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 20:36 |
| MinceR | are they gonna do that on the plane or at the security checkpoint? | Jun 16 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | I meant you can repair it. | Jun 16 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe you can get an unapproved battery for the Surface, but I hope it doesn't erupt into flames. :) | Jun 16 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | The quality on OEM batteries is usually better. | Jun 16 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 16 20:38 |
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| TechDefender | schestowitz: hi, are u there? | Jun 16 22:59 |
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| TechDefender | schestowitz: talked to him: u can see the transcripts, too. but if you want to publish a story, you first "must" talk to his expert witnesses & PR team (to get the full story) | Jun 16 23:12 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: any help is appreciated :) | Jun 16 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 17 00:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 17 00:00 | |
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| TechDefender | hey guys, which FOSS font is most compatible with stock MS Office? Liberation San, FreeSans, or something else? | Jun 17 00:52 |
| TechDefender | https://superuser.com/questions/1047514/are-the-liberation-fonts-100-compatible-with-microsoft-office | Jun 17 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superuser.com | Are the Liberation fonts 100% compatible with Microsoft Office? - Super User | Jun 17 00:52 | |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Probably Liberation, yeah. | Jun 17 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat designed those to be metric equivalent to Microsoft fonts. | Jun 17 01:05 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: thanks, Liberation seems to be the Default that LibreOffice uses | Jun 17 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | You could also install the Microsoft fonts package if your distribution offers it. | Jun 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | They're older, but they should still be compatible with the Windows versions. | Jun 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft once offered them under a non-free redistribution only license to assist MS Office users on Mac. | Jun 17 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Liberation would probably work better though. Just a guess. | Jun 17 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | And those are free. | Jun 17 01:07 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: as long as Liberation works, why install M$ fonts? | Jun 17 01:07 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: which font is used, when an M$ office user, opens an ODF with Liberation Sans (i'm assuming it automatically switches to Arial)? | Jun 17 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I would expect that it would load the closest font., but I don't use MS Office. | Jun 17 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Last time I did, it did NOT support the ODF specification correctly. | Jun 17 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | It would still cram an "ODF" file full of Microsoft-isms when you went to save it, and the result was a corrupted "ODF" document that you could only open with MS Office. | Jun 17 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | Although that has been almost ten years. Newer versions of Office might behave differently. | Jun 17 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,35531.0.html | Jun 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hydrogenaud.io | new Open Source mp3 Encoder from Helix Community | Jun 17 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I remember this one. I think it was under the MIT X11 license. | Jun 17 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I tried it out. It didn't seem to have any particularly bad failure cases, but LAME was more actively developed and the psy model was the result of an open testing process.. | Jun 17 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | Helix was from Real Networks, and although everything was open source, it was difficult to figure out _why_ it was doing some things the way it did. | Jun 17 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 01:13 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I do know there are a few cases with wine where you must use the MS fonts due to minor issues with replacements. | Jun 17 01:14 |
| TechDefender | k, thanks for explaining | Jun 17 01:14 |
| TechDefender | is there a better link than this to get friends to switch to FOSS fonts, ODF, and eventually LibreOffice? | Jun 17 01:14 |
| TechDefender | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html | Jun 17 01:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | We Can Put an End to Word Attachments - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/r0hay ] | Jun 17 01:14 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I remember libreoffice testing developer finding that Excel could make a xlsx file that it could not open itself. | Jun 17 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't surprise me. | Jun 17 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | It *is* Microsoft. | Jun 17 01:15 |
| oiaohm | https://flosmind.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/libreoffice-can-open-xlsx-files-excel-cannot/ | Jun 17 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flosmind.wordpress.com | LibreOffice can open XLSX files Excel cannot | Florians Mind [ http://ur1.ca/r0hb4 ] | Jun 17 01:15 | |
| oiaohm | This one is wrong. | Jun 17 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Word Documents are sort of a de facto standard by way of there being so many of them. | Jun 17 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Word documents also suffer from crossing version hell. | Jun 17 01:16 |
| oiaohm | even crossing printer hell. | Jun 17 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | We managed to wait out MP3, but the clock is not ticking on MS Office formats because they are constantly changing. | Jun 17 01:16 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really there are a lot of issues with MS Office. | Jun 17 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | That's putting it gently | Jun 17 01:19 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: i think the biggest "issue" is simply convince people to switch to LibreOffice ;) --- which, theoretically, should be easy ó‿ó | Jun 17 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | They can't get it to behave reliably with their own formats, but at least Excel 97 had a flight simulator built into it. | Jun 17 01:19 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office when you are needing to open up old documents libreoffice is really you friend. | Jun 17 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.documentfoundation.org | Feature Comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office - The Document Foundation Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/9s6h8 ] | Jun 17 01:21 | |
| TechDefender | related, is the reason why BluRay is less popular than DVD burners (in new computers) -- solely because of the licensing issues/costs? | Jun 17 01:21 |
| TechDefender | blank BluRays 25GB are now 20 cents | Jun 17 01:22 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thanks for that link, explains a lot | Jun 17 01:24 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: also bluray drives have a higher power burn. http://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html | Jun 17 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buildcomputers.net | Typical Power Consumption of PC Components - Power Draw in Watts | Jun 17 01:25 | |
| TechDefender | unrelated: is there a similar case, anywhere: where someone successfully defended distributing "freeware/demo" versions of programs (like demos, without the product key. for Windows, MS office, Adobe, etc) | Jun 17 01:25 |
| TechDefender | that set a precedent, showing it is allowed? | Jun 17 01:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: 15 to 27 W for DVD drives 25 to 30 W for bluray | Jun 17 01:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: and that power difference adds up in laptops to reducing battery life. | Jun 17 01:26 |
| oiaohm | Yes most power effective DVD vs Bluray is 10W difference what is quite a bit. | Jun 17 01:27 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: wow, i did not know that :) | Jun 17 01:27 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: so its licensing and power | Jun 17 01:27 |
| TechDefender | but i still think the line that Apple gave about using DDR3L vs DDR4 for saving power -- is bullshit ( i think it was about cost) | Jun 17 01:28 |
| oiaohm | DDR4 does use less power for same capacity. | Jun 17 01:28 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: hmmmmmm, i kinda still disagree , cuz 99% of the time BluRay is idle (thereby the same power usage as DVD) | Jun 17 01:29 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html if you go to ram section here you will notice DDR1 use more than DDR2 and DDR2 uses more than DDR3 and so on. | Jun 17 01:30 |
| TechDefender | "Optical drives consume just 1.5 to 5 Watts of power during idle, so they add very little to the total power consumption of PC components." | Jun 17 01:30 |
| oiaohm | Note the 1.5-5 watts in idle. | Jun 17 01:30 |
| oiaohm | BluRays have a habit of being more power drawing in idle as well. | Jun 17 01:31 |
| oiaohm | Finer movement of head does result in more power keeping it put. | Jun 17 01:31 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: yeh, IMO Apple just had stockpiled TONS of DDR3L, on the cheap, so that's why they still use it today | Jun 17 01:32 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: don't u like BluRays? the 128GB BluRays should be standard by now!! :P | Jun 17 01:32 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: DDR4 is close to 1.5W | Jun 17 01:33 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Its not that I hate Bluray is more I find its shocking how bad they are. | Jun 17 01:33 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: lot of computer parts are reducing the power they are using and opticial drives are going the other way. | Jun 17 01:34 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: huh? what is bad about 128GB disc? that should be less than $1 soon(tm) | Jun 17 01:35 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.mdisc.com/corporate/ bluray BD-XL does 100GB discs Ok these are not that cheep. | Jun 17 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mdisc.com | Corporate | M-DISC | Jun 17 01:36 | |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-disc stuff is expensive because its stable. Its about 20 dollars a 100GB | Jun 17 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: My whole PC doesn't use 5 watts at idle. | Jun 17 01:38 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thats kinda my side-point, is that BluRay progress has slowed.... it *should* be cheaper/ubiquitious, -- i think another main reason is the software licenses,,, i.e. how hard it is to simply burn to a format that plays correctly in your TV's bluray player | Jun 17 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | 10 hours on the battery, usually. | Jun 17 01:38 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-disc is hardware patent. | Jun 17 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Blu Ray players as in for movies? Only 48% of US households even have one. | Jun 17 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's STANDARD Blu Ray. The UHD Blu Ray is going nowhere at these prices. | Jun 17 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Strictly enthusiast only. | Jun 17 01:39 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.mdisc.com/mdisc-technology/ you pay a lot more for discs that are UV stable. | Jun 17 01:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mdisc.com | M-DISC Technology | M-DISC | Jun 17 01:40 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-Disc are also more heat tollerent than you normal writable media. | Jun 17 01:41 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: maybe i'm just old fashioned, and like burning discs, lol (e.g. it's easy to burn audio CD's for friends, but it is harder to burn BluRay movies for friends) | Jun 17 01:41 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: i can send u those notes about a case, if u want to give me ur opinion? | Jun 17 01:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I am not a lawyer I get stuck doing internal auditing a lot. | Jun 17 01:44 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: big thing with bluray is digital right management. restricting markets so reducing competition. | Jun 17 01:45 |
| TechDefender | u dont need to be a lawyer :) i'm really looking for somewhere that something similar has happened before (with freeware), it seems u guys know a lot about computer history | Jun 17 01:45 |
| TechDefender | Or looking for someone who can help with PR, etc, even be hired | Jun 17 01:49 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: really there are a long list of things that different people have done wrong with software. | Jun 17 02:18 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I normally deal on open source being open source gives you access to a lot of very expensive assistance very cheaply. | Jun 17 02:19 |
| TechDefender | Yes, i like FOSS too :) i'm just trying to help someone out who is in a bad situation, because he didnt use FOSS, lol | Jun 17 02:21 |
| oiaohm | freeware and shareware are both known for vendor lock-in of give you X software for free then make the next version paid. | Jun 17 02:25 |
| oiaohm | And that action is fully nightmare legal. | Jun 17 02:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: if this is a user of software and is freeware he can be stuffed so many way it not funny with no legal options. | Jun 17 02:26 |
| TechDefender | but has anyone ever gotten convicted of distributing 'freeware' or 'shareware' CD's, that is free to download on a website? | Jun 17 02:27 |
| TechDefender | i think this is the first time ever..... | Jun 17 02:27 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I cannot remember the case but I do know one person was done with freeware and shareware. | Jun 17 02:28 |
| TechDefender | charged with 'counterfeiting', even though it is available for free, $0 valuation | Jun 17 02:28 |
| oiaohm | because the license term forbid making any profit | Jun 17 02:29 |
| oiaohm | Hmm | Jun 17 02:30 |
| TechDefender | when i read it, i was screaming at my computer screen, lol,,,, the judge doesn't understand software at ALL | Jun 17 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Counterfeiting is normally not used with freeware cases. | Jun 17 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Its normally copyright or contract for breach of terms in license. | Jun 17 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Counterfeiting with a zero dollar product is that someone else was making another product the same name. | Jun 17 02:31 |
| oiaohm | Now free $0 valuation license may include clause only download from them. | Jun 17 02:33 |
| oiaohm | If that is the case any time you do hand out a copy would be Conterfelting. | Jun 17 02:33 |
| TechDefender | like the free version of Adobe, or Windows, that is free to download, (usually only 'demo' version, which expires, or is crippled after 30days, etc... that is "freeware", right? | Jun 17 02:33 |
| TechDefender | Freeware, since there is no license included (the license is what costs $) | Jun 17 02:34 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://modernievirt.blob.core.windows.net/vhd/release_notes_license_terms_1_5_15.pdf This is the license for Microsoft virtual machine images https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ | Jun 17 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.microsoft.com | Free Virtual Machines from IE8 to MS Edge - Microsoft Edge Development [ http://ur1.ca/qfki5 ] | Jun 17 02:36 | |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: that license if I put those on a disc and give to another person I have committed a crime. | Jun 17 02:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the person wanting those images has to download it themselves. | Jun 17 02:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: they might be free but the license terms on them limits how you can distribute them. | Jun 17 02:37 |
| TechDefender | this is confusing... | Jun 17 02:37 |
| oiaohm | This is freeware licensing. | Jun 17 02:38 |
| TechDefender | here is an easy way to explain it, but i don't think the judge will watch a YouTube video ;) | Jun 17 02:38 |
| TechDefender | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4 | Jun 17 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/96ykf ] | Jun 17 02:38 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: that is not the way copyright works. | Jun 17 02:40 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright goes back the the first printing press. Where the author of the work gets it set terms on how stuff can be copied. | Jun 17 02:40 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: some freeware and shareware licenses you can put on a disc and give to who ever you like. But you do have ones like those virtual machine images from Microsoft to testing web browser compadiblity that have nasty restrictions. | Jun 17 02:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: problem is people have got into habit of thinking of all freeware as the same. | Jun 17 02:44 |
| TechDefender | wow, that is frustrating | Jun 17 02:44 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: its like thinking that GPL work and MIT work have the same restrictions because they are both open source licenses. | Jun 17 02:45 |
| TechDefender | and then there is civil vs criminal , which makes it even more complicated | Jun 17 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Where open source we have collecitons of license and fairly much duplicate. Freeware and shareware don't they are a unique license every single time. | Jun 17 02:46 |
| TechDefender | i can PM u a link to some info, if u want to read it. any feedback helps, even just proofreading. | Jun 17 02:46 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: no problems I think this person might walked straight into the trap of Freeware. | Jun 17 02:47 |
| TechDefender | well, M$ has most hardcore freeware | Jun 17 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft has multi levels of nasty. | Jun 17 02:49 |
| TechDefender | oh, btw, please don't publish that PM without talking to him first. but he does want to get good press about this eventually | Jun 17 02:51 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/refurbishedpcs I guess he and you don't know about this. | Jun 17 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoft.com | Refurbished PCs | Jun 17 02:51 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: to recycle machines with Microsoft windows on them you are in fact meant to register with Microsoft for free to-do it as an Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher. | Jun 17 02:52 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Of course I will not publish the pm. | Jun 17 02:53 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Microsoft Authorized Referbisher status means Microsoft will not attack you for particular things. | Jun 17 02:54 |
| TechDefender | thanks. i think you are one of the good guys :) btw, he is happy to talk with you or other experts who are interested in helping, i can give u his email if u want | Jun 17 02:55 |
| TechDefender | i don't know about that "MAS" program, what is the "catch"? (i'll send it to him, thanks) | Jun 17 02:56 |
| TechDefender | *MAR | Jun 17 02:56 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: you have to have a business registeration so you can register for free as a partner. | Jun 17 02:56 |
| oiaohm | So then you can register for MAR> | Jun 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Really there is no real catches to it. | Jun 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Also it possible to register with dell and hp that you are attempting to recycle old machines. | Jun 17 02:57 |
| oiaohm | This gives you more authorisation todo particular things without end up on wrong side of copyright. | Jun 17 02:58 |
| oiaohm | You know those authorised service agent status. | Jun 17 02:58 |
| oiaohm | in that there is authorised recycler status. | Jun 17 02:59 |
| TechDefender | aw ok. | Jun 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I don't need to email this is basically need to have all you t crossed and all you i dotted if you don't at times they bite. If you know what you need to dot and cross after you have got caught sometimes you can argue | Jun 17 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Opps I did not know I will from now on have all my paper in order that would allowed me to do all that stuff for free anyhow so please judge drop the costs. | Jun 17 03:00 |
| TechDefender | LOL | Jun 17 03:01 |
| TechDefender | :( | Jun 17 03:01 |
| oiaohm | Most of these cases a lot of court time could have been saved if person was just told they need to sign up do these different programs. | Jun 17 03:02 |
| TechDefender | or, if the defendant gets a Jury trial | Jun 17 03:03 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: what I read just looks to me as someone who did not soild avice on what was required. | Jun 17 03:04 |
| TechDefender | but the problem is most defendant opt for plea bargain, in the face of the max sentence....... which is a whole other problem with the court in general | Jun 17 03:04 |
| oiaohm | I have run computer recycling at different times. | Jun 17 03:04 |
| oiaohm | The stack of paper you require makes you so tempted only to provide the computers if they run Linux. | Jun 17 03:05 |
| TechDefender | for sure at least 1 outta 12 Jurors would have voted "no, this is bullshit" :) | Jun 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Particularly if everything done is free under the MAR program. | Jun 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Or at least a lot cheaper. | Jun 17 03:05 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: never think of freeware/shareware as free until you have read the license on that stuff very carefully. If you cannot find license also know that you could be in big trouble. | Jun 17 03:06 |
| TechDefender | 100 outta 100 Linux users would have voted "not guilty" -- which is why we need more Linux users :P | Jun 17 03:07 |
| oiaohm | That is a very big mistake. | Jun 17 03:07 |
| oiaohm | A large number of open source people who support GPL would look at terms of license and if you breached that rule against you without question. | Jun 17 03:07 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the thing about linux people is lots of them follow licensing absolutely. | Jun 17 03:08 |
| TechDefender | huh?? which Linux user ever sides with M$ in a case like this? | Jun 17 03:08 |
| TechDefender | i thought a lot of them hate M$ *more* absolutely :P | Jun 17 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Yes because license terms were there to be checked. And if copyright or contract get weakened the ablity to use GPL to get code out of hardware vendors will get reduced as well. | Jun 17 03:09 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: a lot of people make this mistake. Linux people like free with correct license and obey license terms were they can. | Jun 17 03:10 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: a lot of reasons why Linux people are lInux people is they read the Microsoft EULA and went hell on. | Jun 17 03:12 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: opps this should be the end 'read the Microsoft EULA and went hell no' | Jun 17 03:12 |
| TechDefender | "if copyright or contract get weakened the ability to use GPL to get code out of hardware vendors will get reduced as well. " i dont really agree with that | Jun 17 03:13 |
| TechDefender | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/supreme-court-makes-it-much-harder-for-patent-trolls-to-sue-in-east-texas/ | Jun 17 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Supreme Court makes it much harder for patent trolls to sue in East Texas | Ars Technica | Jun 17 03:13 | |
| TechDefender | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/supreme-court-strikes-down-federal-circuit-again-limits-lexmark-patent-rights/ | Jun 17 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Supreme Court overturns Lexmark’s patent win on used printer cartridges | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/r0hqm ] | Jun 17 03:14 | |
| TechDefender | here are 2 perfect examples, of why ur wrong :P | Jun 17 03:14 |
| TechDefender | eventually, hopefully, someone takes one of the M$ cases to the Supreme Court , and wins (don't u agree?) | Jun 17 03:15 |
| TechDefender | Even simply "cruel & unusual punishment" is enough grounds to win, IMO | Jun 17 03:16 |
| TechDefender | i thought this was #techrights, not #techrestrictions ;) | Jun 17 03:18 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright and patent laws are different class problems completely. | Jun 17 03:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: patents were not meant to be used to allow people to control what happens to their hardware. Just prevent people from duplicating it without a valid license. | Jun 17 03:26 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright is design to control coping and how the item is used. | Jun 17 03:26 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note understanding your rights is key to fighting for more rights. No point fighting for right you already have unless someone is attempting to remove them. | Jun 17 03:28 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: so are you for both Software Patents & Software Copyright? (i though most Linux/FOSS guys are against both) | Jun 17 03:29 |
| TechDefender | https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman | Jun 17 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikiquote.org | Richard Stallman - Wikiquote [ http://ur1.ca/ohhrh ] | Jun 17 03:30 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software patents don't make very much sense. Particularly that a person can have a patent let you exploit it for 18 years then tell you about it and demard payment for the past 18 years. | Jun 17 03:30 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software copyright if every thing is done right you should know about it when you get the software. | Jun 17 03:31 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: GPL license depends on copyright and contract law to exist. | Jun 17 03:31 |
| TechDefender | which software program's patent is the 18 year one? | Jun 17 03:31 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software patents are valid for 20 years from the date of issue. | Jun 17 03:32 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: you are not required to public tell anyone that a bit of software you release is using a patent. | Jun 17 03:32 |
| TechDefender | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Why_abolish_software_patents | Jun 17 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why abolish software patents - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) [ http://ur1.ca/r0ht2 ] | Jun 17 03:34 | |
| TechDefender | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Software_patents_wiki:_home_page | Jun 17 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.swpat.org - The Software Patents Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/91gjq ] | Jun 17 03:35 | |
| DaemonFC | It's better to not even research if you're violating a patent. | Jun 17 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | If they can prove that you knew and did it anyway, there's much higher potential damages. | Jun 17 03:35 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: yes DaemonFC is right if you knew about a patent you breach it damages times 3 at least. | Jun 17 03:36 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: yeh, a lot of 'crimes' are similar. e.g. Driving on "susepended license" they FIRST have to PROVE u *knew* it was suspended. | Jun 17 03:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 is a class one in 1991 how to do MP3 was release with source samples in 1998 the person with patents decide it was a nice time to charge everyone for using the patents. | Jun 17 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 - Wikipedia | Jun 17 03:37 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please not that is the same person who released the source samples. | Jun 17 03:37 |
| TechDefender | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea | Jun 17 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mens rea - Wikipedia | Jun 17 03:37 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note that is the same person who released the source samples to mp3. | Jun 17 03:37 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the way patents are used you can think of them almost like blackmail. Get you using something and dependant on it then charge the heck out of you. | Jun 17 03:38 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note with patents it not proving that you knew it was patented. It proving that you used it so you are liable. as well. | Jun 17 03:41 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright is more sane. | Jun 17 03:42 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: swpat.org provides the arguments much better than i can. :) | Jun 17 03:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note patents are not copyright. | Jun 17 03:43 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: is there any changes u would make to his answers, in that PM, i sent? | Jun 17 03:44 |
| TechDefender | he is going to do interviews for news stations | Jun 17 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Maybe some places, but they don't have to prove it anywhere I've lived. | Jun 17 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | You get the suspension letter lost in the mail and keep driving, it makes difference. | Jun 17 03:44 |
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| DaemonFC | My mom got her license suspended for a year and didn't know it until she got a letter in the mail saying she could renew it. She had been driving the whole time. | Jun 17 03:45 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the pm described a copyright problem. Where there is a license there and you are expect to know about it. | Jun 17 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | Well, everything is copyrighted even without a license attached. | Jun 17 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | If there's no license, you should automatically assume it's nonfree. | Jun 17 03:46 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: yes, but he also, has to deal with PR, (aka, the "court of public opinion") | Jun 17 03:46 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: as DeamonFC said with copyright. The rule is no found license no rights to-do anything. | Jun 17 03:46 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: i can send u the PM too, as long as u don't publish it | Jun 17 03:47 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: oh, i can send u the actual transcripts too, if u want | Jun 17 03:48 |
| TechDefender | actually the "PR" side of it, might turn out to be *more important* than the "legal" side of it. | Jun 17 03:58 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really we have fairly much covered the basics. The next is sit down with a good legal team. | Jun 17 04:02 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: PR when it comes to license enforcement all Microsoft cares is that they win and then they can publish that to scare others off. | Jun 17 04:03 |
| TechDefender | like if Aaron Schwartz, had a better PR, etc, that might have been more important than legal team ( i still can't believe that MIT let it go that far) | Jun 17 04:03 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really the more media coverage the harder Microsoft will fight. | Jun 17 04:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875977780537819136 | Jun 17 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 17 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 17 04:04 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: he has a legal team, not sure how 'good' they are | Jun 17 04:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 04:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange These people are advised by the "Pentagon"...' | Jun 17 04:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 17 04:04 | |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: well, the silver lining it, this kinda stuff "scares" more people to switch to Linux | Jun 17 04:07 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange These people are advised by...' | Jun 17 04:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the Russians' claims....' | Jun 17 04:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the...' | Jun 17 04:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes and drone...' | Jun 17 04:13 | |
| TechDefender | unrelated: is a 40" 4K TV a good choice for a monitor? | Jun 17 04:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes...' | Jun 17 04:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875990810898173952 | Jun 17 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 04:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 04:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 17 04:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race....' | Jun 17 04:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my...' | Jun 17 04:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux,...' | Jun 17 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | [04:12] <TechDefender> schestowitz: talked to him: u can see the transcripts, too. but if you want to publish a story, you first "must" talk to his expert witnesses & PR team (to get the full story) | Jun 17 04:52 |
| schestowitz | not in written form? | Jun 17 04:52 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: heyyy | Jun 17 04:58 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: what kind of story do you want to do? | Jun 17 04:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i can give you his email, if you want | Jun 17 04:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is planning on doing press stuff | Jun 17 05:00 |
| schestowitz | introducing the case maybe | Jun 17 05:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he prefers talking on the phone (Signal app) | Jun 17 05:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i came here, because i'm thinking you guys are experts in this kind of stuff. I'm not an expert, i'm just into FOSS, etc | Jun 17 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002195073884161 | Jun 17 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian #GNU #Linux 8.8 | Jun 17 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jessie, but Ditches #systemd | Jun 17 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DvEgCIjI8X (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 05:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.8 Jessie, but Ditches systemd | Tux Machines | Jun 17 05:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002490680053761 | Jun 17 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications | Jun 17 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.08, Arrives August 17 https://t.co/8N5NHAOFxr | Jun 17 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 05:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications 17.08, Arrives August 17 | Tux Machines | Jun 17 05:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 17 05:05 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he has a PR team, that he was supposed to send me contact list for, but he is stressed out, so maybe he forgot. I'm just trying to help, because i support his cause | Jun 17 05:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 05:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 17 05:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 05:08 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks again for helping recommend experts. | Jun 17 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Zuckerberg's brainwash experiments (for paying clients) a step up http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/facebook-to-venture-into-scripted-television-with-comedy-series/article18990743.ece https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/facebook-chases-tv-s-70-billion-stash-with-its-own-video-series recall http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks | Jun 17 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Facebook to venture into scripted television with comedy series - The Hindu [ http://ur1.ca/r0i85 ] | Jun 17 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Chases TV’s $70 Billion Stash With Its Own Video Series - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/r0i86 ] | Jun 17 05:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gawker.com | Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks' [ http://ur1.ca/1mgo6 ] | Jun 17 05:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876011744421871616 | Jun 17 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 05:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 17 05:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Leftovers: #Solus. #OBS, and #Unixstickers https://t.co/pZxdDFBtUU #suse #opensuse...' | Jun 17 06:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Solus. OBS, and Unixstickers | Tux Machines | Jun 17 06:07 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 06:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Your friend @jeremycorbyn has written to May...' | Jun 17 07:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeed.com | The Man Who Warned Of The "Catastrophic" Fire Risk At Grenfell Tower Almost Died In The Blaze | Jun 17 07:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @jeremycorbyn #grenfell 'Whistleblower' dead: https://t.co/pPXsFA1Ba0 Theresa May's...' | Jun 17 07:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Shameless Tory council leader blames Grenfell Tower block residents for lack of sprinklers claiming they didn't want 'disruption' - Mirror Online | Jun 17 07:02 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: at your convenient, pass us information we can publish | Jun 17 07:19 |
| schestowitz | with links, quotes, etc. | Jun 17 07:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to publish something that you would later state harmed the case | Jun 17 07:20 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i really appreciate that | Jun 17 07:20 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he is finalizing something to publish soon, similar to what i sent u. | Jun 17 07:21 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: if you have any input that could help out, please let me know. U can email him directly if you want, but he is busy and stressed out dealing with all of this | Jun 17 07:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876058262994649088 | Jun 17 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Packages and #Security Fixes | Jun 17 08:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OarU4KIVhZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 08:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Packages and Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Jun 17 08:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Slackware Packages and #Security Fixes https://t.co/OarU4KIVhZ #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 08:56 | |
| MinceR | http://comicpress.socksandpuppets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/681align1.jpg | Jun 17 08:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Noam Chomsky on Moral Relativism and Michel...' | Jun 17 08:57 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/lE4WuVq.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/JYkwp ) | Jun 17 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Accio Lightning Storm amirite? | Jun 17 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Suddenly my life feels very dull - Album on Imgur | Jun 17 10:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876084593685913601 | Jun 17 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Recent and Older #Qt and #KDE News, #Development | Jun 17 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eMeoCrKPVI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 17 10:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gsoc | Jun 17 10:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876085397557850113 | Jun 17 10:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | older howtos https://t.co/nQVqhQftty | Jun 17 10:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) catchup with what was missed this | Jun 17 10:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | past month | Jun 17 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | older howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/djOXw | Jun 17 11:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876086619639513088 | Jun 17 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Recent and Older #Qt and #KDE News, #Development | Jun 17 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/eMeoCrKPVI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 17 11:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gsoc | Jun 17 11:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876093748681347072 | Jun 17 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba | Jun 17 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 11:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.6.2 released | Alpine Linux | Jun 17 11:07 | |
| MinceR | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 11:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: o_0 | Jun 17 11:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited '#AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 11:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876096087291023362 | Jun 17 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Jun 17 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qqjXYKV0iJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 17 11:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 11:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In...' | Jun 17 11:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876096754520915970 | Jun 17 11:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported | Jun 17 11:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for at Least 2 Years https://t.co/FE7WaktDo1 | Jun 17 11:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #linux | Jun 17 11:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported for at Least 2 Years | Tux Machines | Jun 17 11:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 11:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @VlmHardy retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 11:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @NewsCoverUp retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 11:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Bloody #tories #MayOut #toriesOut https://t.co/QTmPIDeuUU...' | Jun 17 11:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Snowden Bloody #tories #MayOut #toriesOut https://t.co/QTmPIDeuUU | Jun 17 11:36 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden June needs to be the end of...' | Jun 17 11:47 | |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Looks like a computer game | Jun 17 11:50 |
| schestowitz | the wheel would not be in flames on a loose human arm in an alley | Jun 17 11:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 17 11:50 |
| schestowitz | but it still looks impressively real | Jun 17 11:50 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/85oYdOO.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/yjPb7 ) | Jun 17 11:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden June needs to be the...' | Jun 17 12:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 12:17 | |
| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/G4Iu1.jpg | Jun 17 12:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 12:22 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/YFRWwXQ.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/YFRWwXQ ) | Jun 17 12:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | This is the new shit! | Jun 17 12:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is the new shit! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 17 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | what's with the cat? | Jun 17 12:27 |
| schestowitz | just caturday? | Jun 17 12:27 |
| schestowitz | the sun bear meme is good | Jun 17 12:29 |
| schestowitz | I heard similar things | Jun 17 12:29 |
| schestowitz | playing the ate/hate ambiguity (phonetically) | Jun 17 12:29 |
| schestowitz | it's also funny that they use sun bear meme because they're known or notorious for having eaten... their own feces in Indonesia | Jun 17 12:30 |
| MinceR | unusually photogenic one | Jun 17 12:51 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 17 13:17 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aOac6Wc.jpg | Jun 17 13:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The struggles of a Amazon delivery driver | Jun 17 14:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 just pulled in a new systemd... | Jun 17 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like they don't exactly just use the version it says it is. They cherry pick fixes from the development branch and backport them. | Jun 17 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't document everything they fixed, but just gave a general summary. | Jun 17 16:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 16:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Roxanne_Rees/status/876174505563041792 | Jun 17 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Roxanne_Rees: @schestowitz I'm sorry, are the Labour Party any more collective right now? Neither party won a majority let's be realistic! | Jun 17 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convince it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convinced (arrogantly) it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 16:30 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 16:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no need to troll, we have activity regardless | Jun 17 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR troll no its true | Jun 17 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | you love going on about system d and apple, so you love them | Jun 17 16:33 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Corbyn was never a fan of it....' | Jun 17 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 17 16:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Corbyn was never a fan...' | Jun 17 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Put in perspective, that is about 100...' | Jun 17 16:45 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F1PPrb0.jpg | Jun 17 16:55 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <sebsebseb> DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz | and it's not even so funny.. | Jun 17 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | systemd has a lot of bugs. | Jun 17 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | They seem to be growing faster than they are being fixed. | Jun 17 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | Pulling in so many features under one umbrella has likely led to mission creep. | Jun 17 17:23 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: most distros gone to system d | Jun 17 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html | Jun 17 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.de | The Biggest Myths | Jun 17 17:25 | |
| MinceR | most distros are garbage | Jun 17 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | " In fact, many of these binaries[1] are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd, too." | Jun 17 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use udev without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use a lot of things without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Or at least a shim that makes them think they're using systemd. | Jun 17 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | "A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic. What is different from prior solutions however, is that we ship more components in a single tarball, and maintain them upstream in a single repository with a unified release cycle." | Jun 17 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't this undercut the BSD user complaint that Linux is a pile of packages that are not developed together? | Jun 17 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | That, according to them, made BSD "better" because the core operating system was all developed by a single project. | Jun 17 17:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Then again, many components of a BSD system aren't developed together. It's unlikely that you want a desktop/workstation without a display server, video drivers, a desktop environment, etc. | Jun 17 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | And their graphics drivers are a port from Linux! | Jun 17 17:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Put in perspective, that is...' | Jun 17 17:28 | |
| DaemonFC | A really really old Linux at that. | Jun 17 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD 11.1's Intel/AMD graphics support (kernel part) is from Linux 3.8. | Jun 17 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Four years old and they admit in their Wikis that modern chipsets aren't supported at all. | Jun 17 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you want a dumb framebuffer with no graphics acceleration. | Jun 17 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | They don't see it as a problem. Their answer is "Buy an nvidia card and use their proprietary driver.". | Jun 17 17:30 |
| MinceR | what about the other BSDs? | Jun 17 17:30 |
| MinceR | http://judecnelson.blogspot.hu/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html | Jun 17 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-judecnelson.blogspot.hu | Jude's Blog: Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies [ http://ur1.ca/mvjad ] | Jun 17 17:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure what they're doing, but it's funny that FreeBSD says it's better because it's developed together and then they're going around twinking parts of ancient Linux kernels for hardware support. | Jun 17 17:31 |
| MinceR | what's up with the licensing of those FreeBSD drivers then? | Jun 17 17:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 17:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin On Being In The Military - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0kry ] | Jun 17 17:40 | |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Going to pick up dinner. | Jun 17 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, I've seen that one. :) | Jun 17 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Linux kernel Direct Rendering Manager code is under a BSD style license. | Jun 17 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | As part of Linux, it's wrapped with the GPL. | Jun 17 17:43 |
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| MinceR | ic | Jun 17 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | cute | Jun 17 18:13 |
| MinceR | lol @ killed in combat | Jun 17 18:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: awesome video | Jun 17 18:31 |
| MinceR | George Carlin On Being In The Military >> https://youtu.be/OJBXKMy5smI?t=10s | Jun 17 18:38 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: udev works without systemd init still. But you do run into the same issues with udev and systemd as you did with udev and sysvinit when you attempt to use some other init. udev rules file containing settings for the default init system. | Jun 17 19:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: reality is a lot of problems have not changed but now that systemd is used people are yelling about them yet still not fixing them. | Jun 17 19:35 |
| MinceR | they made some problems more difficult to fix and they set the house on fire | Jun 17 19:38 |
| oiaohm | Really they have not made the problem harder fix they are just now pulled out from under the rug they have been swept under. But of course now they want to shove them back under another rug. | Jun 17 19:39 |
| oiaohm | that other rug is blaming systemd for existing faults. | Jun 17 19:39 |
| oiaohm | Instead of going that was busted. | Jun 17 19:39 |
| oiaohm | and working out a proper fix. | Jun 17 19:39 |
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| MinceR | my point is, things would be easier to fix if one did not also have to fix the things they broke with forcing systemd into the system | Jun 17 19:41 |
| MinceR | all these superfluous dependencies they've put into place to make it difficult for the user to have their own way, to retain some control | Jun 17 19:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my problem is the reality is systemd broke very little. | Jun 17 19:41 |
| MinceR | and all that | Jun 17 19:41 |
| MinceR | no, your problem is that you don't perceive the reality | Jun 17 19:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: majority that is put on systemd was already broken. | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | you're infatuated with this crap because apparently slowlaris also did some of that shit | Jun 17 19:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: like how do you start a service from udev that all init systems support. | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | i don't know why you believe slowlaris to be the perfect unix | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | it isn't | Jun 17 19:42 |
| oiaohm | I never said that. | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | why do you worry about that? make udev flexible so it will run a command | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | then you specify a command that does the right thing with your service manager | Jun 17 19:42 |
| oiaohm | I said systemd was modeled after the way solaris did stuff. | Jun 17 19:42 |
| MinceR | it isn't rocket surgery | Jun 17 19:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, you kept bringing it up | Jun 17 19:43 |
| oiaohm | and you keep on saying modeled after windows what is incorrect. | Jun 17 19:43 |
| oiaohm | And you raised the solaris point | Jun 17 19:43 |
| oiaohm | so who bring this crap up. | Jun 17 19:43 |
| MinceR | in fact, there already _is_ a pretty standard command for starting/stopping services that works on systemd and also on sane systems | Jun 17 19:44 |
| MinceR | the service command | Jun 17 19:44 |
| MinceR | so you can just use that | Jun 17 19:44 |
| MinceR | no need to make up problems, your cult has made more than enough real ones | Jun 17 19:44 |
| oiaohm | service command is sysvinit items like runit don't have it. | Jun 17 19:44 |
| oiaohm | So do it the sysvinit way or else right MinceR | Jun 17 19:45 |
| MinceR | it's probably trivial to provide for them | Jun 17 19:45 |
| MinceR | i doubt it's "the sysvinit way" | Jun 17 19:45 |
| MinceR | in fact, the first time i used it was on a non-sysvinit system | Jun 17 19:46 |
| MinceR | because there was no /etc/init.d | Jun 17 19:46 |
| MinceR | and i shrugged, guessing they just put it elsewhere, like /sbin/init.d | Jun 17 19:46 |
| MinceR | and tried service, and it worked | Jun 17 19:46 |
| MinceR | only later did i find out that the reason was entirely different | Jun 17 19:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it sysvinit that introduced the service command. | Jun 17 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | They've made things so bad with the dependencies that you almost have to have systemd now. | Jun 17 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | That wasn't an accident. | Jun 17 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't noticed any benefits of this for the user. Things don't work better than they did before. | Jun 17 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart seemed alright, at least to me. | Jun 17 19:47 |
| MinceR | moving udev into systemd so you couldn't build it without systemd wasn't an accident | Jun 17 19:48 |
| MinceR | upstart was horrible, but it was innocent enough | Jun 17 19:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: key word there is build. | Jun 17 19:48 |
| MinceR | they aimed to replace init+rc, not to replace the whole OS | Jun 17 19:48 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, that was the first step | Jun 17 19:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd configure system build 3 core parts but that does not mean those 3 parts cannot be invidually packaged and work independant to each other as embedded developers found. | Jun 17 19:49 |
| MinceR | then they announced they'll make udev depend on kdbus, which doesn't work without systemd | Jun 17 19:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that includes udev | Jun 17 19:49 |
| oiaohm | No kdbus would have been in kernel. | Jun 17 19:49 |
| MinceR | and i linked that announcement so many times here | Jun 17 19:49 |
| oiaohm | That would not have been a systemd dependancy. | Jun 17 19:49 |
| MinceR | show me where i said kdbus would not have been in kernel. | Jun 17 19:49 |
| oiaohm | If they were wanting systemd dependant they could have made it dbus dependant now. | Jun 17 19:50 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone falls for you trying to put words in my mouth. | Jun 17 19:50 |
| oiaohm | This is where you logic start running into trouble. | Jun 17 19:50 |
| MinceR | but they don't care about dbus, it isn't shitty enough by their standards | Jun 17 19:50 |
| MinceR | they wanted to replace it with kdbus for ages | Jun 17 19:51 |
| MinceR | and they would have gotten away with it too, if Linus didn't keep an eye on what they were trying to do to Linux. | Jun 17 19:51 |
| oiaohm | To be correct IPC done by user space broker has a transfer over head problem. Just dbus is that bad of a design that it not acceptable to Linus. | Jun 17 19:53 |
| oiaohm | Mind you dbus is a improvement over kde and gnome prior alterantives. | Jun 17 19:53 |
| MinceR | so you insist | Jun 17 19:54 |
| MinceR | yet prior alternatives at least did not insist in running all the time | Jun 17 19:54 |
| MinceR | just during the user's x session | Jun 17 19:54 |
| MinceR | and certainly not on a server | Jun 17 19:54 |
| MinceR | and not everything in the world depended on them | Jun 17 19:54 |
| oiaohm | LOL idiot | Jun 17 19:55 |
| MinceR | so classy and eloquent | Jun 17 19:55 |
| MinceR | what happened, did redhat stop paying you enough to advertise their shit here? | Jun 17 19:55 |
| oiaohm | DCOP and Bonobo before dbus had the same kind of problem not running no gnome or kde applications. | Jun 17 19:56 |
| oiaohm | Worse they would cat fight with each other. | Jun 17 19:56 |
| MinceR | bonobo is something entirely different | Jun 17 19:56 |
| oiaohm | It was not. | Jun 17 19:56 |
| MinceR | its kde equivalent is kpart | Jun 17 19:56 |
| oiaohm | It had a central service for doing IPC. | Jun 17 19:56 |
| oiaohm | That disappeared when dbus come in. | Jun 17 19:56 |
| MinceR | at least dcop had tools that didn't shit itself when i told them to list what calls a given application has | Jun 17 19:57 |
| oiaohm | wrong so you never used kde 2 or 3 heavily. | Jun 17 19:58 |
| MinceR | keep guessing | Jun 17 19:58 |
| oiaohm | I have had dcop do that mostly triggered by artsd. | Jun 17 19:58 |
| oiaohm | another thing that it good we don't have anymore. | Jun 17 19:58 |
| MinceR | not much comfort, since we have pulseaudio being pushed on us aggressively | Jun 17 19:59 |
| MinceR | included by fucking mozilla | Jun 17 19:59 |
| oiaohm | It really simple to forgot how bad the ipc and sound was. Like starting a gnome app and a kde app and having esound and artsd race to claim the audio out for themselves. | Jun 17 20:00 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying stuff could not be better. | Jun 17 20:00 |
| MinceR | and now PA just grabs it even if nobody asked it to | Jun 17 20:01 |
| MinceR | unless you do some not well known configuration to tame it somewhat | Jun 17 20:01 |
| oiaohm | Both esound and artsd did that as well. | Jun 17 20:01 |
| MinceR | they had a systemwide daemon that started on boot? | Jun 17 20:01 |
| oiaohm | yes esound and artsd did have deamon modes. Like a lot of other sound servers at the time. Please note esound and artsd are just the top two there was another 8 that different applications would decide to use. | Jun 17 20:03 |
| oiaohm | So cat fight from hell in the sound server space. | Jun 17 20:03 |
| MinceR | apparently competition is evil | Jun 17 20:03 |
| MinceR | but redhat will finally save us by taking all control to themselves over unixes | Jun 17 20:03 |
| oiaohm | There is a difference between competition and total incompatibility. | Jun 17 20:04 |
| MinceR | then they'll hand it over to glorious microsoft, who will save us from unix by banning it from uefi! | Jun 17 20:04 |
| oiaohm | What defect was all the sound servers attempting to fix that is still not fixed now? | Jun 17 20:05 |
| oiaohm | Even firefox status it in the reason they are defaulting to pulseaudio. | Jun 17 20:05 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of such a defect | Jun 17 20:06 |
| MinceR | perhaps you haven't heard of dmix? | Jun 17 20:06 |
| oiaohm | dmix is 2 channel. | Jun 17 20:07 |
| MinceR | let me guess, poettering uses a 7.1 system | Jun 17 20:07 |
| oiaohm | Firefox wanted 5.1 | Jun 17 20:07 |
| MinceR | also known as The Only Person Whose Use Cases Matter | Jun 17 20:07 |
| MinceR | well, firefox can go fuck itself. | Jun 17 20:08 |
| MinceR | it gets 0.0 | Jun 17 20:08 |
| oiaohm | Not to play 5.1 but to convert 5.1 as videos on line come with it at times. | Jun 17 20:08 |
| MinceR | and it's looking like i'll have to switch to chromium as nothing works on failfox anymore anyway | Jun 17 20:08 |
| oiaohm | Not to have to maintain their own stack to do that. | Jun 17 20:08 |
| oiaohm | Mixing conversions has been the universal reason. | Jun 17 20:08 |
| MinceR | good thing pulseaudio has no bugs in it whatsoever. | Jun 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | oh wait. | Jun 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | see, this is one of the things i hate about windows | Jun 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | lots of components, lots of them broken, no way to replace them with something that has a chance of actually working in my use cases | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | no choice | Jun 17 20:10 |
| oiaohm | windows has mixing conversions as something that is a library out side the sound server that applications can share. | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | m$'s way or the highway | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | so i took the highway | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | and here is redhat, demolishing it | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | windows also likes to skip even at low system load | Jun 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | and windows applications like to die if you give them higher priority | Jun 17 20:11 |
| MinceR | and it won't even work | Jun 17 20:11 |
| MinceR | windows has an atrocious task scheduler | Jun 17 20:11 |
| MinceR | i guess i wouldn't mind if i was always rich enough to keep a separate PC for every task | Jun 17 20:11 |
| oiaohm | Really windows has a lot of things wrong. But at times they do get some design ideas right. Windows was in fact designed on the presume that at some point hardware vendors would provide their own sound server. | Jun 17 20:12 |
| MinceR | i don't really see why they would | Jun 17 20:12 |
| oiaohm | So how to provide features applicaitons need without being dependant on a particular sound server was put in the design. | Jun 17 20:12 |
| MinceR | or want to face multiple audio output devices all bringing their own sound servers with them | Jun 17 20:12 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft developer have been known to try out the strangest paths. | Jun 17 20:13 |
| oiaohm | Of course some of those are totally insane. | Jun 17 20:13 |
| oiaohm | the sound card providing it own sound server comes out of the Microsoft winmoden days. | Jun 17 20:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 20:14 |
| MinceR | another great idea | Jun 17 20:14 |
| oiaohm | Mind you sound card having matching sound server makes more sense than each major DE having it own sound server. | Jun 17 20:16 |
| MinceR | not to me | Jun 17 20:17 |
| oiaohm | Each major De having own sound server with unique interfaces as it was. | Jun 17 20:18 |
| MinceR | the machine this keyboard is plugged into is running 0 DEs and has 2 audio output devices, at least | Jun 17 20:18 |
| oiaohm | Then applications from those DE developments depending on those sound servers running. | Jun 17 20:19 |
| oiaohm | So really firefox depending on pulseaudio is people doing a full circle again. | Jun 17 20:19 |
| oiaohm | and still not addressing the core problem. | Jun 17 20:19 |
| MinceR | no, it's a bigger step along the path which turned firefox into a train wreck | Jun 17 20:20 |
| MinceR | they're not fixing their browser, they just keep making it more bug-ridden, more malicious and less usable | Jun 17 20:20 |
| MinceR | and less free | Jun 17 20:20 |
| oiaohm | more big-ridden is wrong in this case. | Jun 17 20:21 |
| oiaohm | firefox was maintaining a full remix system it self. | Jun 17 20:22 |
| MinceR | sure, i'm just imagining the bugs i keep bumping into | Jun 17 20:22 |
| oiaohm | and that has not been properly maintained for 3 and a half years with 200 open bugs. | Jun 17 20:22 |
| MinceR | i must have been hallucinating every single time their atrocious quicksearch widget decided i wanted to open search settings when i pressed enter at the end of the search string | Jun 17 20:22 |
| MinceR | because the settings button happened to pop up under the pointer | Jun 17 20:23 |
| MinceR | and those retards didn't realize that hitting enter is not the same thing as clicking the left mouse button | Jun 17 20:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I said in the default to pulseaudio case not more bug ridden. | Jun 17 20:23 |
| MinceR | then there's the gifs randomly deciding not to play | Jun 17 20:23 |
| oiaohm | As the mix system in firefox was already bug ridden. | Jun 17 20:23 |
| MinceR | probably not as much as pulseaudio | Jun 17 20:24 |
| MinceR | i don't recall any audio-specific bugs | Jun 17 20:24 |
| oiaohm | most users don't work out as audio as they are memory leaks. | Jun 17 20:24 |
| MinceR | i doubt any user will notice a single memory leak in a web browser | Jun 17 20:25 |
| MinceR | as they leak like a sieve all the time | Jun 17 20:25 |
| MinceR | "modern" websites eat memory as if it was gratis | Jun 17 20:25 |
| MinceR | (and they eat everything else too) | Jun 17 20:25 |
| oiaohm | the swap to pulseaudio in firefox took 1G of ram usage off my general usage. | Jun 17 20:26 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jun 17 20:26 |
| MinceR | but if you were already using PA, did removing ALSA support even affect you? | Jun 17 20:26 |
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| oiaohm | I tested with the apulse as well. | Jun 17 20:27 |
| MinceR | i don't see how that's relevant | Jun 17 20:29 |
| MinceR | afaict from firefox's point of view apulse and pulseaudio are the same thing | Jun 17 20:29 |
| oiaohm | and both apulse and pulseaudio have less memory leaking mixing than what was in firefox mainline. | Jun 17 20:30 |
| cubexyz | ok, slack just bugged out on me :-/ | Jun 17 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is just an awful program in general. | Jun 17 20:30 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: joke's on you, apulse just uses dmix | Jun 17 20:30 |
| cubexyz | exited from X, now all I can see is a cursor in the top left, not blinking | Jun 17 20:30 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse | Jun 17 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - i-rinat/apulse: PulseAudio emulation for ALSA | Jun 17 20:31 | |
| MinceR | >Internally, no separate sound mixing daemon is used. Instead, apulse relies on ALSA's dmix, dsnoop, and plug plugins to handle multiple sound sources and capture streams running at the same time. | Jun 17 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It would be better to have mixing done in the kernel. | Jun 17 20:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why? | Jun 17 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better to have a lot of this stuff in the kernel, but they don't want it there. | Jun 17 20:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: except apulse has the rules to do 5.1 to 2 using dmix that is not in general ALSA. | Jun 17 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Avoids some overhead. | Jun 17 20:32 |
| MinceR | so what? | Jun 17 20:32 |
| MinceR | if you wanted to avoid all overhead, just build a monolithic system that runs everything in ring 0 | Jun 17 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I like fast. :) (A play on I like money.) | Jun 17 20:32 |
| cubexyz | can't toggle caps lock or num lock, keyboard seems unresponsive | Jun 17 20:33 |
| MinceR | and do you know how much the overhead actually is? | Jun 17 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's the extreme of putting almost everything outside of the kernel. | Jun 17 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Minix-style. | Jun 17 20:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 17 20:35 |
| MinceR | and it didn't work out well, though i'm not sure why | Jun 17 20:35 |
| MinceR | every option has disadvantages when it comes to where you put the mixing, and i just can't tell which one is worth doing | Jun 17 20:35 |
| MinceR | i guess multiserver microkernel is just too damn difficult to get right | Jun 17 20:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microkernel sel4 is about the best peforming. | Jun 17 20:36 |
| MinceR | that might be why everyone gave up on hurd | Jun 17 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Hurd tried to go that way too. | Jun 17 20:36 |
| oiaohm | hurd lot of nasty issues. | Jun 17 20:36 |
| MinceR | afaik only hurd tried to go that way | Jun 17 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | You might be able to run Hurd, but it's not really useful, or stable. | Jun 17 20:36 |
| MinceR | i hear minix has some massive userspace daemon with multiple responsibilities | Jun 17 20:36 |
| oiaohm | hurd was designed not only to be a microkernel but also to attempt to be self repairing. | Jun 17 20:37 |
| MinceR | hurd developers basically gave up on the multiserver microkernel idea | Jun 17 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: You mean to recover in cases where Linux would just panic. | Jun 17 20:37 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, any ideas on how to unblank my text console? | Jun 17 20:37 |
| MinceR | at this point >> https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html | Jun 17 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemd | Jun 17 20:37 | |
| oiaohm | self repairing is a pure nightmare sometimes you want a system to kernel panic. | Jun 17 20:37 |
| MinceR | at this point, hurd has ceased to have a point to it | Jun 17 20:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that's fine, just turn it off | Jun 17 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, because after a major error, there's no guarantee that a recovery will put the system in a stable state after that without rebooting. | Jun 17 20:38 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: can you ssh in? | Jun 17 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | That's why UNIX had Panic instead of the Multics error recovery code. | Jun 17 20:38 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what's sel4? security enhanced l4? | Jun 17 20:38 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, yes | Jun 17 20:38 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: so the system isn't frozen... | Jun 17 20:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: brain not thinking console commands at moment "reset" might work. or ssh in. (there is a console reset command) | Jun 17 20:39 |
| cubexyz | no, just the screen is blank except for cursor on top left | Jun 17 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | If you want a stable system, you should probably just stay on a distribution with long term support where all you get by default are bug fixes. | Jun 17 20:39 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: can you switch virtual consoles? either with ctrl+alt+f# or with chvt (or what it's called) | Jun 17 20:39 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, yup tried that | Jun 17 20:39 |
| MinceR | then again, if the cursor isn't blinking in text mode, the video adaptor is really frozen | Jun 17 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 9 starts off with Linux 4.9 after 33 minor releases. | Jun 17 20:39 |
| cubexyz | no go | Jun 17 20:39 |
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| MinceR | (should be switching pages to make it blink or something) | Jun 17 20:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://sel4.systems/ Yes security enhanced l4. It can do hard realtime. | Jun 17 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sel4.systems | Home | seL4 | Jun 17 20:39 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i see | Jun 17 20:39 |
| cubexyz | can I tell which tty it is? | Jun 17 20:40 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i have no idea | Jun 17 20:40 |
| oiaohm | sel4 is like the gold standard of fast running microkernels. | Jun 17 20:40 |
| cubexyz | ah... w | Jun 17 20:40 |
| cubexyz | tty1 and pts/1 | Jun 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Using a "stable" kernel that was just released often isn't as good as picking a LTS kernel and staying with it until it's no longer supported or another LTS is sufficiently baked that the major problems are worked out. | Jun 17 20:40 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: maybe you can rmmod some relevant module and modprobe it again? | Jun 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you need something from a newer kernel, it's better to be conservative. | Jun 17 20:41 |
| cubexyz | I think the text console is in the kernel now :-/ | Jun 17 20:41 |
| cubexyz | not like the old days | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | and the video driver? | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | i915 or what have you | Jun 17 20:41 |
| cubexyz | yes, it is i915 | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | then again, i doubt it would let go | Jun 17 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: Quite a bit of the video driver code is in the kernel. | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | the text console is probably using it | Jun 17 20:41 |
| cubexyz | maybe I can reload that? | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | yes, maybe | Jun 17 20:41 |
| MinceR | might be a good idea to sync first though :) | Jun 17 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Userspace Mode Setting with X was always unreliable crap. | Jun 17 20:42 |
| MinceR | yup | Jun 17 20:42 |
| cubexyz | i915 is the big one, but there's also video, button, drm, intel_gtt, etc | Jun 17 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | It was also an ongoing security nightmare as X had to run as root, etc. | Jun 17 20:42 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: i don't know enough to tell which is the best choice | Jun 17 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | And there are/were plenty of ways to attack X and become root because of that. | Jun 17 20:43 |
| cubexyz | in use by "intel_agp" | Jun 17 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Modern system with no proprietary video driver, that's a lot harder. | Jun 17 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | X also has a lot of code that is years or decades old and seldom if ever used that's just dangling there creating more low hanging fruit for attackers. | Jun 17 20:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there comes a point where it reset the system. | Jun 17 20:44 |
| MinceR | and nobody appears to survive who knows it all | Jun 17 20:44 |
| cubexyz | disappointing the new software is less reliable :-/ | Jun 17 20:44 |
| MinceR | they're just dicking around with wayland | Jun 17 20:44 |
| MinceR | and i wonder if they'll ever support non-vsync for games at all | Jun 17 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One developer said he was probably one of three people who knew exactly how Xinput worked. | Jun 17 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | And that he wishes he wasn't. | Jun 17 20:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, i remember that | Jun 17 20:45 |
| cubexyz | ok, now to reset i915 without reboot is the question | Jun 17 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | They're still cleaning up a lot of ancient code from X that nothing uses anymore. | Jun 17 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I just saw a commit the other day that removed over 2,000 lines of code that was copyrighted by SUSE in 2000. | Jun 17 20:46 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, you guys are forgetting init 1 | Jun 17 20:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe that could work | Jun 17 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | I also saw a commit on the master branch the other day that said it was removing some code that nothing had used since 2004. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| MinceR | i doubt the kernel cares, but at this point, i doubt you have anything to lose :) | Jun 17 20:47 |
| cubexyz | ah, I'm screwed... that killed ssh | Jun 17 20:47 |
| MinceR | oh, right | Jun 17 20:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98833 wayland support non-vsync at times it been broken. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | 98833 – [REGRESSION, bisected] Wayland revert commit breaks non-Vsync fullscreen frame updates [ http://ur1.ca/r0ld3 ] | Jun 17 20:47 | |
| DaemonFC | So apparently the more they look, the more old crap they find. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: oh, so it's not completely anathema to them. nice. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically if non-vsync is not working on wayland you have a bug in mesa. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or Nvidia. | Jun 17 20:47 |
| cubexyz | ok, that was a botch-up | Jun 17 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | I expect that Wayland will be okay around Fedora 27 or so. | Jun 17 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | At this rate. | Jun 17 20:48 |
| cubexyz | got have a mind to replace slack with openbsd | Jun 17 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly usable now, but not quite there yet. | Jun 17 20:49 |
| MinceR | i expect that it will need some help | Jun 17 20:49 |
| cubexyz | this system I'm using xchat on is one of the most reliable boxes | Jun 17 20:50 |
| cubexyz | that and fc1 | Jun 17 20:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it was funny wayland by a lot of people was blamed for breaking non-vsync when it turned out it was mesa or nvidia in egl mode that was stuffed. So it was causing bad performance on android phones and no one was complaining. | Jun 17 20:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 17 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: If it was Samsung phones, they were probably just accustomed to it. | Jun 17 20:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 17 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Also, 3 hours on a charge... Should be plenty, right? | Jun 17 20:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 20:51 |
| cubexyz | why can't linux run without a video driver? | Jun 17 20:51 |
| MinceR | what phone is that? | Jun 17 20:51 |
| cubexyz | just text... | Jun 17 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Galaxy S6 was terrible. | Jun 17 20:51 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | samsung stopped making good phones after the note II | Jun 17 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | The people who mugged me got it. | Jun 17 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | and they stopped making high-end lcd tablets after the tab pro-s | Jun 17 20:52 |
| cubexyz | now I'm liking radeonfb much better than before | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | even though oleds still burn in | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | pity | Jun 17 20:52 |
| cubexyz | at least it worked | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | samsung used to make good stuff | Jun 17 20:52 |
| MinceR | well, i guess they still make good ssd-s | Jun 17 20:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Linux can run without a video driver if you don't mind serial port or forcing back to vesa and praying video card vesa text support in fact works. | Jun 17 20:53 |
| MinceR | and the chromebook pro is attractive | Jun 17 20:53 |
| MinceR | of course they don't sell that in hungary | Jun 17 20:53 |
| cubexyz | how much for chromebook pro? | Jun 17 20:54 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, remember that trick I told you about radeonfb? | Jun 17 20:55 |
| cubexyz | /sbin/modprobe radeonfb and it works great | Jun 17 20:55 |
| cubexyz | not so with 2017 slackware though | Jun 17 20:55 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: $549.99 on amazon | Jun 17 20:56 |
| cubexyz | hmmm, ok not too bad then | Jun 17 20:56 |
| cubexyz | X has been running on FC1 for over 400 days without issue | Jun 17 20:58 |
| MinceR | this morning my laptop failed to turn its displays on when i tried to bring it out of lock | Jun 17 20:59 |
| MinceR | apparently nothing else failed, but i still had to reboot it | Jun 17 20:59 |
| cubexyz | radeonfb exists for FC1 so it's been around for a while | Jun 17 21:00 |
| cubexyz | no clue what the deal is with newer linux | Jun 17 21:02 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure I've _ever_ managed to unload radeonfb | Jun 17 21:02 |
| cubexyz | but vector linux works better with it loaded | Jun 17 21:02 |
| cubexyz | man fbset also states the docs are out of date | Jun 17 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.11.6 | Jun 17 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like some serious Intel i915 driver bugs were fixed. | Jun 17 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have to wait for Fedora to build it, which will probably happen Monday. | Jun 17 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One case where the performance if really bad thanks to the driver being in userspace is the NTFS-3G FUSE module. | Jun 17 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | Can't be in the kernel for obvious reasons. | Jun 17 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft Loves Linux" so much that they sue over things like a patent on DOS file names in the vfat driver. | Jun 17 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Who know what patents they have relating to NTFS. | Jun 17 21:14 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 17 21:14 |
| oiaohm | We do know that NTFS is patented. ntfs3g maker end up doing a deal with Microsoft and it why the in kernel NTFS driver suxs. | Jun 17 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | What about vfat though? | Jun 17 21:15 |
| MinceR | i wonder if they're bullshit patents like the VFAT one | Jun 17 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | You need that to have /boot/efi. | Jun 17 21:16 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't the VFAT patent be expired now? | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | afaik there's a copy of FAT in the uefi spec and you're allowed to use that only for uefi | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | but fuck uefi | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | it's toxic | Jun 17 21:16 |
| oiaohm | vfat patents are expired. | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | when did they expire? | Jun 17 21:16 |
| oiaohm | exfat microsoft has patented to hell as well. | Jun 17 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's two issues with the 8.3 filename patent. | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 17 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | One is that Linus Torvalds might have invalidated it in court. | Jun 17 21:16 |
| MinceR | what's worse, they got the sd card guys to make their shitty fs-es "standard" | Jun 17 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | The other is that Linux works around it anyway by setting the short file name to random characters. | Jun 17 21:17 |
| MinceR | that sort of invalidation never seems to work | Jun 17 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny because that was causing Windows XP to crash when reading some of those files. | Jun 17 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | So another patch to Linux vfat to avoid crashing Windows XP with those random short filenames had to be added. | Jun 17 21:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Microsoft_FAT_patents 2014 patented ended Microsoft did attempt to evergreen it until 2021. | Jun 17 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft FAT patents - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) [ http://ur1.ca/r0lhn ] | Jun 17 21:18 | |
| MinceR | i see | Jun 17 21:18 |
| MinceR | yet they kept suing android vendors all the time since then | Jun 17 21:18 |
| oiaohm | remember exfat is still patented that Microsoft got into particular storage standards. | Jun 17 21:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's criminal | Jun 17 21:19 |
| MinceR | they shouldn't be allowed to call them standards | Jun 17 21:19 |
| oiaohm | sdxc cards have exfat in standard. | Jun 17 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They claimed to have "117" patents that Linux violates. | Jun 17 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | A few FAT patents expiring wouldn't make much difference if that is the case. | Jun 17 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | But they won't tell us what other patents Linux is allegedly violating. | Jun 17 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Also, there's the problem where exFAT has new patents *and* was declared the standard for SDXC cards. | Jun 17 21:21 |
| cubexyz | ok, now I see a problem: | Jun 17 21:21 |
| cubexyz | "Failed gpm connect attempt by uid 1000 for vc /dev/tty0" | Jun 17 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | You *could* make FAT32 bigger than 32 GB using non-Microsoft formatting tools, but SDHC spec leaves what to do with volumes that size undefined. | Jun 17 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Some devices may work and others may not. | Jun 17 21:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: problem is that is in the standard so the SDXC may access the exfat data for wear leveling. | Jun 17 21:23 |
| MinceR | then those cards will fail and get replaced | Jun 17 21:23 |
| MinceR | play stupid games, win stupid prizes | Jun 17 21:24 |
| oiaohm | We are looking 2026 for when exfat patents start dieing. | Jun 17 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | I mostly use SD cards for storing music files. | Jun 17 21:24 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will be left of humanity by then | Jun 17 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | So wear leveling isn't that important for me. | Jun 17 21:24 |
| cubexyz | could someone try: fbset --info | Jun 17 21:25 |
| cubexyz | and tell me the output | Jun 17 21:25 |
| MinceR | zsh: command not found: fbset | Jun 17 21:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 17 21:26 |
| oiaohm | And from the reported patents so far to unlock all of exfat will not be until 2030. | Jun 17 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.google.com/patents/US8321439 | Jun 17 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent US8321439 - Quick filename lookup using name hash - Google Patents | Jun 17 21:27 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: 2029 will be when this one expires. | Jun 17 21:27 |
| cubexyz | ok, maybe it's /usr/sbin/fbset or /sbin/fbset | Jun 17 21:27 |
| MinceR | they patented the hash table? | Jun 17 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | exFAT isn't going to be in the public domain for a while. | Jun 17 21:27 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: same | Jun 17 21:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes the hash table method exFAT uses. | Jun 17 21:27 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, what are you running? | Jun 17 21:28 |
| MinceR | the shittiness of the patent system and the corruptness of the patent authorities never ceases to amaze me | Jun 17 21:28 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: debian7 | Jun 17 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's probably why FAT32 is the "standard" for uEFI. | Jun 17 21:28 |
| cubexyz | huh | Jun 17 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Had they made it exFAT then you could argue that you had to implement it to make your OS boot. | Jun 17 21:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: same would work on vfat, though | Jun 17 21:29 |
| oiaohm | uEFI went vfat early where a patent grant from Microsoft for anyone implementing EFI. | Jun 17 21:30 |
| oiaohm | Intel refused to use a file system that required patents to be paided. | Jun 17 21:30 |
| MinceR | apparently they weren't really adamant in their refusal | Jun 17 21:31 |
| MinceR | no wonder -- they bent totally over for m$ with this whole uefi shit | Jun 17 21:31 |
| MinceR | FAT, PE, Restricted Boot | Jun 17 21:31 |
| oiaohm | I wish the threat had been done intel wished to go Universal Disk Format (UDF) | Jun 17 21:31 |
| MinceR | or ext2 | Jun 17 21:32 |
| oiaohm | Now windows with UDF on a harddrive is play crash me loto. | Jun 17 21:32 |
| MinceR | and see how the robber barons in redmond react to that | Jun 17 21:32 |
| MinceR | things like this make me wish humanity succeeded at their wish for extinction | Jun 17 21:32 |
| oiaohm | ext2/3/4 has permissions mess. UDF avoids that. | Jun 17 21:32 |
| MinceR | maybe nature will succeed next time | Jun 17 21:32 |
| MinceR | better set your permissions properly, then | Jun 17 21:33 |
| oiaohm | I really wish I could use UDF on harddrives and windows worked. | Jun 17 21:33 |
| MinceR | even gnu/linux sw seems to sometimes believe a non-optical device formatted with UDF had to be an optical disc | Jun 17 21:33 |
| MinceR | annoying | Jun 17 21:33 |
| cubexyz | oh boy, man fbset was out of date in the FC1 era | Jun 17 21:35 |
| cubexyz | how about: | Jun 17 21:36 |
| cubexyz | cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes | Jun 17 21:36 |
| cubexyz | anything there? | Jun 17 21:36 |
| MinceR | % cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes | Jun 17 21:37 |
| MinceR | U:1366x768p-0 | Jun 17 21:37 |
| MinceR | that's all | Jun 17 21:37 |
| cubexyz | ok, cat /proc/cmdline | Jun 17 21:47 |
| MinceR | % cat /proc/cmdline | Jun 17 21:48 |
| MinceR | BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/darkstar-root ro quiet | Jun 17 21:48 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/8bef97100b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-12 ) | Jun 11 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robot Reincarnates - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-12 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 00:03 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How do people in Hungary usually write dates? | Jun 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | in y-m-d order, dunno what separator | Jun 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | as i switched to - ages ago | Jun 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | i think they're supposed to use .-s | Jun 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: nice :) | Jun 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | > yyyy. mm. (d)d. | Jun 11 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | Wikipedia states it's like that | Jun 11 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it means dots | Jun 11 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country | Jun 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Date format by country - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzhvs ] | Jun 11 00:07 | |
| XRevan86 | In Russia people usually do DD.MM.YYYY or DD.MM.YY | Jun 11 00:07 |
| MinceR | then it's probably correct | Jun 11 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Uncool, dashes are the way, yeah. | Jun 11 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | The Wikipedia's article shows once again an interesting trend | Jun 11 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | of the US doing their own thing, and that thing being less rational than the far more common thing | Jun 11 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | Like with Fahrenheit for temperature (except science) and pounds, miles, etc. for mass and length (except science). | Jun 11 00:15 |
| MinceR | aren't pounds, miles, etc. leftovers from before the SI system was invented? | Jun 11 00:16 |
| MinceR | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/357/900/1cd.jpg | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Indeed, they are, the British older units of measure | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But the US are the ones who do their best to keep them around :) | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | Although British and Australians kinda do too | Jun 11 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | but not on the level of the government | Jun 11 00:18 |
| MinceR | the more insane thing is hungarians insisting on using the . as a time separator too | Jun 11 00:19 |
| MinceR | no clocks do that | Jun 11 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Do Hungarians like Russians? | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | i guess they do | Jun 11 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If not, tell 'em we use dots in dates | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | since the majority voted for the putin-style dictator | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | and along with it, increasing russian influence on hungary | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | including the outrageously horrific conditions of the paks2 deal | Jun 11 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What's that? | Jun 11 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Okay, then tell 'em Russia has a GOST mirroring the ISO standard with YYYY-MM-DD | Jun 11 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | DD.MM.YYYY is also somewhere in GOSTs, but definitely no YYYY.MM.DD | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | building another block for the hungarian nuclear power plant, with giving all the control over the russians, including exclusively buying the fuel from them, etc. | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | and including a horrible loan deal | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | massive national security risks | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | giving all the control over the russians? | Jun 11 00:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | Does Hungary have control over me now? | Jun 11 00:24 |
| MinceR | over to the russians | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That is a pretty serious deal. | Jun 11 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why I haven't heard about it. Would have been a pretty glorious local news article "Russia can! Russia capable!" | Jun 11 00:27 |
| MinceR | i guess putler's media didn't want to brag about subverting a nearly insignificant state they only use for spying on and lobbying inside the EU and the NATO | Jun 11 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, they could do something like "This foreign country, which is in the EU, thinks we can do good construction. We are surprised ourselves. Russia stronk." | Jun 11 00:31 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/3df60650164b0135a9fb005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-25 ) | Jun 11 00:32 |
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| XRevan86 | 12th of June is pretty soon. | Jun 11 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | This is probably gonna be very interesting. | Jun 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: nice links | Jun 11 00:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I didn't manage to catch up with all the older links | Jun 11 00:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 00:49 |
| schestowitz | old logs partly missing | Jun 11 00:49 |
| schestowitz | when the connection to home died, hence I need the logs | Jun 11 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I'll post logs in a month or so again, got some 'holes'/gaps in time | Jun 11 00:50 |
| MinceR | which period(s) and channel(s) do you need logs for? | Jun 11 00:50 |
| schestowitz | circa 15/5-1/6 | Jun 11 00:50 |
| schestowitz | for the 4 channels although cubelog has this channel pretty well covered | Jun 11 00:50 |
| schestowitz | the logs should be easily compressible | Jun 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz | as you did years ago | Jun 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz | next summer it's 10 years for our IRC community | Jun 11 00:51 |
| MinceR | may 15 .. june 1? | Jun 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, please. | Jun 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz | you have my email addy, I believe... | Jun 11 00:52 |
| schestowitz | or you can dump these on some pastebin | Jun 11 00:52 |
| schestowitz | (public channels anyway) | Jun 11 00:52 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/WXLTt | Jun 11 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How long can you go before losing it? - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 11 01:11 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 01:11 |
| schestowitz | seems like 4channy humour | Jun 11 01:11 |
| MinceR | seemed more imgur/reddit style | Jun 11 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/hQzAori.gifv the second part | Jun 11 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 11 01:12 | |
| XRevan86 | it's evil | Jun 11 01:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | I wasn't bothered until I saw that | Jun 11 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | Ruining a book, that's pure evil | Jun 11 01:13 |
| schestowitz | still weird | Jun 11 01:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/873697057164468230 | Jun 11 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Very pleased to say that relegating (or better worded -- | Jun 11 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | assigning) #gnu #linux stuff to @tuxmachines seems to | Jun 11 01:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have improved things | Jun 11 01:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Release of KDE Frameworks 5.35.0 https://t.co/8PEM407UuM | Jun 11 01:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in #Linux https://t.co/FFpmhBiOSk | Jun 11 01:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Freeing an HP #Chromebook 11 with Arch Linux ARM | Jun 11 03:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Freeing an HP Chromebook 11 with Arch Linux ARM | Tux Machines | Jun 11 03:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz I ❤️ Arch! | Jun 11 03:17 |
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| DaaemonFC | schestowitz, I see that Linsux is still semi-active on Reddit. | Jun 11 07:35 |
| DaaemonFC | I'll give them this, they do love to troll. | Jun 11 07:36 |
| DaaemonFC | Linux has been getting more consistent and coherent, but BSD is showing signs of advanced decay, at least as a desktop OS. | Jun 11 07:36 |
| DaaemonFC | GTK+ seems to deal with super high res displays a lot better than Qt apps do. | Jun 11 07:41 |
| DaaemonFC | You can scale KDE and its apps, but things like the Qt file picker are still wrong. Checkboxes are teeny tiny. Auto spell check becomes unusable due to font rendering issues. | Jun 11 07:42 |
| DaaemonFC | They need to fix some bugs in Qt. | Jun 11 07:42 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME decided to do HiDPI right and for some reason, KDE didn't. | Jun 11 07:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would not say Gnome got HiDPI right. | Jun 11 07:49 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Gnome did the stuffed up integer base scaling that has to be recreated and Qt had floating point scaling. | Jun 11 07:50 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: also Gnome has been picking bugs out of GTK as well. | Jun 11 07:52 |
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| schestowitz | [07:35] <DaaemonFC> schestowitz, I see that Linsux is still semi-active on Reddit. | Jun 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | yes, they're rude and hostle | Jun 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't like Reddit crowd there | Jun 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | some pro-Microsoft people there, some MS employees | Jun 11 07:57 |
| schestowitz | (in Linux subs) | Jun 11 07:57 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would not say gnome got HiDPI right. The integer based scaling come out of Gnome. Qt had floating point scaleing. Both GTK and QT have had glitches for HiDPI | Jun 11 08:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Linux HiDPI from KDE and Gnome has been choose your broken. | Jun 11 08:02 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm | Jun 11 08:08 |
| DaaemonFC | I heard that more improvements for GNOME are coming. | Jun 11 08:08 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://blog.hetzenecker.me/2017-05-15-hello-gsoc/ One of KDE summer of code group will be working on HiDPI | Jun 11 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.hetzenecker.me | Making Hi-DPI awesome | Jun 11 08:12 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: There is work going on with both Gnome and KDE to fix the messes. | Jun 11 08:12 |
| DaaemonFC | http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2017/06/uefi-and-mageia-6-adventure.html | Jun 11 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: UEFI and Mageia 6 RC Adventure | Jun 11 08:27 | |
| DaaemonFC | I wonder if Mageia handles uEFI and Secure Boot these days. | Jun 11 08:27 |
| DaaemonFC | The last time I paid attention to it, they were one of the last distributions still using the patched-to-hell version of Grub 0.97. | Jun 11 08:28 |
| DaaemonFC | Obviously, the only way that could work is with BIOS Boot enabled. | Jun 11 08:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn He may never come here https://t.co/FmjamZHy0n' | Jun 11 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petition.parliament.uk | Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom. - Petitions | Jun 11 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn He may never come here...' | Jun 11 14:53 | |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/xwlb42y2nx2z.gif | Jun 11 14:56 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/BarnabyEdwards/status/873246062932369409 | Jun 11 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: from that same complilation of lame UX for volume controol? | Jun 11 15:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #trumpOut and soon #MayOut - his BFF....' | Jun 11 15:05 | |
| MinceR | not from that dump, but on the same topic | Jun 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | I c... | Jun 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PlebianPrime/status/873906576075231233 | Jun 11 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PlebianPrime: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Don… https://t.co/0eK7vyBI8G | Jun 11 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Dont tarnish you all say. Then i want every arab gone."" | Jun 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_Saudi_role_in_September_11_attacks | Jun 11 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 11 15:18 | |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/bfd522c01bb90135b144005056a9545d (gallery: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-30 ) | Jun 11 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wally Has A Doctor's Note - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-30 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 15:46 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the Arabia problem is part the usage of militia | Jun 11 15:46 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/05/01/520183/Yemen-AlQaeda-AQAP-Qasim-alRimi-Saudi-Arabia-US-UN-Houthis-Hadi-Hudaydah It this stuff that make your go what in heck. | Jun 11 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.ir | PressTV-'Al-Qaeda fights alongside US, S Arabia in Yemen' [ http://ur1.ca/qzkup ] | Jun 11 15:52 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: trumps call to not support terrorist groups is a very big issue in the Arabia area. When a terrorist group will fight on the side the political wants they get paid then wonder why down the track they turn around and bite them. | Jun 11 15:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/article/encryption-leaves-authorities-not-in-a-good-place-former-us-intelligence-chief/ Lets ask for the impossible. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encryption leaves authorities 'not in a good place': Former US intelligence chief | ZDNet | Jun 11 15:58 | |
| oiaohm | You cannot have encryption that protects privacy and a back door. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| cubexyz | write your own :) | Jun 11 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873918151720919041 | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Professional #Audio Production https://t.co/Cs84rAsNSt | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #multimedia #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 16:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional Audio Production | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may These people are all closeted bigots....' | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 11 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks for the links | Jun 11 16:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 16:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional #Audio...' | Jun 11 16:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't understand http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 16:14 |
| schestowitz | massive tetris | Jun 11 16:14 |
| MinceR | the point is the end | Jun 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it gets clipped for me | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | where the player deliberately places the piece off to the side, instead of in the hole? :> | Jun 11 16:16 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/BfQJ4 | Jun 11 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glad you made this far. Here's some more! - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 16:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873924899412336640 | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You Run Windows Virus Free | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:29 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I still don't get it | Jun 11 16:30 |
| schestowitz | some taste of art? | Jun 11 16:30 |
| MinceR | annoying people with OCD tendencies, i guess | Jun 11 16:31 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its one of those odd games. Its there are some really old rule variations to tetris | Jun 11 16:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873927425465483269 | Jun 11 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 16:39 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c3af67201bb90135b144005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-02 ) | Jun 11 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modular Workstations - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-02 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 16:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS #google #security #debian #raspi #chrome...' | Jun 11 16:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873928547135631360 | Jun 11 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers: #OpenStack, #OpenDaylight, #Rackspace, and | Jun 11 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Serverless https://t.co/SRvmgRDBuF (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 11 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 16:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: OpenStack, OpenDaylight, Rackspace, and 'Serverless' | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers: #OpenStack, #OpenDaylight, #Rackspace, and #Serverless https://t.co/SRvmgRDBuF' | Jun 11 16:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873930244226469888 | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Distributions News: #MX 16.1, #Clonezilla, #PorteusKiosk | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.0, and #openSUSE #Tumbleweed https://t.co/xj7LsAXOq2 | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 11 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distributions News: MX-16.1, Clonezilla, Porteus Kiosk 4.4.0, and openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Distributions News: #MX 16.1, #Clonezilla, #PorteusKiosk 4.4.0, and...' | Jun 11 17:01 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/GxNJN | Jun 11 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Eternal Struggle for the Immature - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SecurityNews6/status/873933220819066880 | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SecurityNews6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 17:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873935038676709377 | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News (and Olds): #GNOME3 Pimping, This week in | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, and Older News https://t.co/oQPvvoqs7L | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtk #gnu #linux | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 17:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News (and Olds): GNOME 3 Pimping, This week in GNOME Builder, and Older News | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873935673115496448 | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/mnG7qwzy3M | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 11 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/873937047685406721 | Jun 11 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You | Jun 11 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 17:20 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DUP | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: SystemD | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Linux | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Fedora Core 1 Man ! | Jun 11 18:18 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: microsoft | Jun 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz | WHAT? | Jun 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | f* dat | Jun 11 18:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NAUgCm-3Tc | Jun 11 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Louis C.K. Faggot, Cunt, Nigger - YouTube | Jun 11 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @manpageio favourited '#Ubuntu -driven #TurtleBot gets a major rev with...' | Jun 11 18:23 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes DUP | Jun 11 18:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 18:24 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: interesting times aye | Jun 11 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft Ubuntu bash shell in Windows 10 | Jun 11 18:25 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: WannaCry | Jun 11 18:31 |
| MinceR | http://index.hu/mindekozben/poszt/2017/06/10/kiderult_donald_trump_donald_kacsa_megforditva/ | Jun 11 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-index.hu | Index - Mindeközben - Kiderült: Donald Trump = Donald kacsa megfordítva | Jun 11 18:33 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep NHS spyware adwaare malware | Jun 11 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but UK sucks for IT in general so | Jun 11 18:36 |
| cubexyz | just general badware | Jun 11 18:50 |
| cubexyz | that includes lots of just plain bad hardware too | Jun 11 18:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/1lkra3s3e13z.png | Jun 11 18:53 |
| cubexyz | I never did get a straight answer from intel about which CPUs didn't have Intel ME | Jun 11 18:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 19:01 | |
| cubexyz | it's stuff like this that makes me think about vax and amiga | Jun 11 19:03 |
| cubexyz | there's some talk about using a 2nd nic | Jun 11 19:04 |
| cubexyz | don't use the one on the motherboard | Jun 11 19:04 |
| cubexyz | I heard the intel me isn't located on the CPU die | Jun 11 19:08 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F306ilg.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/F306ilg ) | Jun 11 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I am Death! Feel my wrath! | Jun 11 19:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I am Death! Feel my wrath! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 19:13 | |
| MinceR | it makes me think about FPGA-based cpus | Jun 11 19:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it has been located in the Northbridge chip | Jun 11 19:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Jun 11 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Jun 11 19:16 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_Controller_Hub the scary point is ME can run and do network connectivity with no x86 CPU chip on the motherboard. | Jun 11 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Platform Controller Hub - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzlo4 ] | Jun 11 19:17 | |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, What's your take on the BSD approach to systemd? | Jun 11 20:21 |
| MinceR | launchd? | Jun 11 20:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They seem to be writing stub services that redirect systemd functionality to the native services. | Jun 11 20:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They have enough stubs to get recent versions of GNOME and KDE running. | Jun 11 20:21 |
| MinceR | so they'll support poettering's shitty dbus APIs? i don't like it | Jun 11 20:21 |
| MinceR | those APIs should die | Jun 11 20:22 |
| MinceR | preferably along with dbus | Jun 11 20:22 |
| DaaemonFC | The idea is that the program is fooled into believing systemd is there, but it isn't. | Jun 11 20:22 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess it's easier to do that than port the software without systemd support. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Seems kind of gross, but I suspect Devuan is doing something similar. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The Lumina Desktop does not use systemd, dbus, or any of that. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| MinceR | well, it's better than letting cancerd run | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | and no, devuan does not do this | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | What do they do? | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | How are they avoiding it? | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | it disables compile-time options to depend on cancerd | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | and the default desktop is xfce, which doesn't depend on cancerd | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | Oh, well. | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone cared about running gnome or kde enough to patch them | Jun 11 20:26 |
| DaaemonFC | From what I can tell, Lumina is written in Qt and uses Fluxbox as the window manager. | Jun 11 20:26 |
| DaaemonFC | The Lumina code is licensed under the 3 clause BSD license. | Jun 11 20:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Some Linux distributions offer it as well, but Fedora doesn't have it. | Jun 11 20:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Speaking of licenses, I think that as of 3.24, all of GNOME is now using GPL3+ or LGPL3+. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME Web switched from GPL2+ this release. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | The more code switches to the newer GPL, the better, especially since Canonical is so hostile with licensing. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They haven't named names, but they said that basing a distribution on Ubuntu's packages is illegal even if you strip them of Ubuntu's copyright. | Jun 11 20:29 |
| DaaemonFC | So they were implying Linux Mint is pirated without saying it. | Jun 11 20:29 |
| DaaemonFC | Mark Shuttleworth came out and said that they made this policy because some "shoddy distributions" were passing themselves off as Ubuntu and hurting their brand. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Whatever that means. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: kind of wrong. Stripping the copyright would be illegal. removing the trademarks is legal. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Matthew Garrett is correct that this makes Ubuntu nonfree. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there are some out there doing the wrong thing with copyright. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | The correct way to protect your brand is with trademark enforcement. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Errr, strip them of Ubuntu's marks I meant. | Jun 11 20:31 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: can you link these statements from canonical? | Jun 11 20:31 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there have been a few ubuntu forks that have in fact stripped copyright headers. Ie got a little to over active on trademark removal. | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett's comments: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Ubuntu still isn't free software | Jun 11 20:32 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Original post from Ubuntu: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | errr | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/taking-a-stand-against-unstable-risky-unofficial-ubuntu-images/ | Jun 11 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Taking a stand against unofficial Ubuntu images | Ubuntu Insights | Jun 11 20:32 | |
| MinceR | thx | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | "We do not make this move lightly, but have come to the view that the value of Ubuntu to its users rests on these commitments to security, quality and updates." | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | LOL | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | Must be why I STILL can't connect to my Bluetooth stereo system with A2DP for the third Ubuntu release in a row. | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | :) | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | Works fine in Fedora. | Jun 11 20:34 |
| DaaemonFC | I like Fedora better anyway. | Jun 11 20:34 |
| DaaemonFC | It's surprisingly much more stable than Ubuntu and much more user friendly than Debian, especially considering how new all of the packages tend to be. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: some of those risky distributions have delete sections on the package management that include like what license files are. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| DaaemonFC | The Debian/Ubuntu mindset seems to be that if you don't like what a package is doing, then patch it and never worry about sending the patch upstream or even working with upstream at all. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so there is some copyright infringment going on due to removing information that should not be removed. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| DaaemonFC | That way you can hve hundreds of packages that don't work like the upstream version and all have their own bugs too! | Jun 11 20:36 |
| DaaemonFC | At least, that's the way it was when I looked last time. And their Ubuntu kernel was carrying nearly 100 patches as of about 4 years ago vs the mainline. It was so bad that if you compiled and used a mainline kernel, you broke things that were supposed to work in Ubuntu. | Jun 11 20:37 |
| DaaemonFC | Again, might have improved. Some of the AppArmor stuff was upstreamed since then and the patches for Upstart's readahead are irrelevant now that they use systemd, which has its own readahead. | Jun 11 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: systemd-readahead has been removed. | Jun 11 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | since systemd 217 | Jun 11 20:39 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Debian policy rules do say that patches are meant to be sent up stream. Debian does have issues with maintainers not always following the rules. Ubuntu does not have that policy. | Jun 11 20:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora doesn't carry its own patches unless it's going to be upstreamed very soon. | Jun 11 20:42 |
| MinceR | the only thing canonical is committed to is not doing any work other than putting their branding on debian | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Pretty much every package is vanilla or with as few patches as possible. | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | I'm not entirely thrilled with the Wayland by default. It's still not ready. | Jun 11 20:44 |
| DaaemonFC | Most of the problems are with XWayland. | Jun 11 20:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The performance is pretty bad with XWayland and some bugs with touch and things like that. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| DaaemonFC | The overhead is sufficient that many games become unplayable when you run them like that, but there's a GNOME on Xorg session. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| DaaemonFC | I feel like that's going to be there for a while as a crutch until XWayland performance gets a lot better. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| MinceR | games will never work right if they stick to their commitment to enforcing vsync at all times | Jun 11 20:46 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, That's one of the problems, yeah. | Jun 11 20:46 |
| DaaemonFC | It's better to just drop frames if you have to. | Jun 11 20:47 |
| DaaemonFC | The stuttering from trying to use vsync is much worse. | Jun 11 20:47 |
| DaaemonFC | brb | Jun 11 20:48 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5h2uvg/wayland_bad_for_gaming/ | Jun 11 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Wayland - bad for gaming? : linux_gaming | Jun 11 20:50 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, you can work around some of the problems, at least with games that use SDL. | Jun 11 20:50 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Oddly enough, Microsoft forces vsync on when you run a game that you bought in the Windows Store. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | So you get the same problem there. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Surprised that people who bought Gears of War 4 weren't angrier about that. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| MinceR | which one took it from the other? | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, Wayland predates the Universal Windows Platform. | Jun 11 20:54 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Also, games in the Windows Store can't use SLI/Crossfire. | Jun 11 20:54 |
| DaaemonFC | So if you have dual graphics cards, it will only use one of them. | Jun 11 20:55 |
| DaaemonFC | There are really awful limitations on Windows Store apps and Microsoft wonders why they can't get any big name third party titles on it instead of on Steam. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | It's going to take Microsoft years to sort through this Windows Store mess to the point where they've caught up with Steam, if it ever happens. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | Steam has the advantage of being cross platform too, so there's that. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | If you buy a game that is cross-platform and then later switch to Mac or Linux, it should keep working. | Jun 11 20:57 |
| DaaemonFC | When you get a Windows app, it only works on Windows. | Jun 11 20:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:57 |
| DaaemonFC | I mean, technically the developer could release an AppX package and tell you how to enable sideloading, assuming your Windows SKU allows you to do that. | Jun 11 20:58 |
| MinceR | apparently it doesn't even work on windows | Jun 11 20:58 |
| DaaemonFC | But Windows still won't allow an AppX to be installed unless it's signed with your developer key, issued by Microsoft or one of their supported CAs. | Jun 11 20:58 |
| DaaemonFC | I suppose....that Wine could be made to allow AppX installs and ignore the signing requirement, but....You'd still have to get the developer to release an AppX package. Or maybe use the pirate bay as your app store. :) | Jun 11 20:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder which DirectSuX version will be the first one that's limited to winblows store crApps | Jun 11 20:59 |
| MinceR | to force game developers into the store | Jun 11 21:00 |
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| XRevan86 | > it only works on Windows | Jun 11 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Like… on Windows 7? :) | Jun 11 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | So there's also that: it only works on Windows 10 even, not just only on Windows. | Jun 11 21:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: codeweavers did get windows store app to run on wine but thing you run into a legal hell. Sideloading store applications is not in fact permitted. | Jun 11 21:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: and of course Microsoft does not make a MIcrosoft store for wine. | Jun 11 21:03 |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, You don't have to be a UWP app to use the latest DirectX for now. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | I think they'd be sued massively for that. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | You do have to be a UWP app if you want access to EdgeHTML, otherwise you have to use Trident to render web pages. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | You could bundle Xulrunner, I guess, but that makes your app bigger. Also, how much longer will that work with the "overhaul" being done on Firefox. | Jun 11 21:13 |
| MinceR | for now. | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | you could use Blink instead | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | but it wouldn't be nearly as broken as EdgeHTML or Trident | Jun 11 21:14 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, EdgeHTML reports that it is Blink. | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | and since your first ideas were to use one of those, you probably wanted your app to be broken | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | that doesn't make it Blink | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | it's just IE pretending to be Blink | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | And Microsoft says that any rendering differences are bugs that it wants to fix. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, but their goal is compatibility with Blink. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | sure it is | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Fake it til you make it. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | microsoft never lies! | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | B-) | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox is, sadly, still the de facto browser on Linux. | Jun 11 21:17 |
| DaaemonFC | Google has no intention of becoming anything resembling a proper upstream with Chromium. | Jun 11 21:17 |
| DaaemonFC | They've left most of the Linux packaging issues closed with WONTFIX and so Chromium from your distribution has to bring in hundreds of MB of "chromium-liba", and Chrome is worse. | Jun 11 21:18 |
| MinceR | great | Jun 11 21:18 |
| DaaemonFC | It depends on "Red Hat LSB" which depends on tons of crap that Chrome doesn't even use. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| MinceR | meanwhile palemoon still has some annoying bugs | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, How long has the Firefox bug that makes it unusable with dark themes on Linux been open? | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Longer than I can remember. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Possibly ~15 years. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | They say a fix has been checked in for Firefox 55. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | I'll believe that when I see it. | Jun 11 21:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 11 21:21 |
| MinceR | the one that annoys me the most is when it randomly decides not to play animated gifs | Jun 11 21:21 |
| DaaemonFC | It's simply not acceptable to go to install a web browser (Chromium/Chrome) and have your package manager tell you that 500 MB of packages will be installed. | Jun 11 21:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Nice achievements and track record there. Much...' | Jun 11 21:23 | |
| MinceR | it's the natural way of the "modern" web | Jun 11 21:24 |
| MinceR | they keep tacking shit on top of everything that was there before | Jun 11 21:24 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The guy who develops higan posted a rant about how difficult it is to get a SSL certificate and how the CAs are basically a cartel. | Jun 11 21:26 |
| MinceR | and there isn't much of a point to it anyway | Jun 11 21:26 |
| MinceR | as PKI is laughably vulnerable | Jun 11 21:27 |
| DaaemonFC | He said that browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe, but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 21:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily download and run javascript on your computer | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | without asking you | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure their sandbox is the one piece of software that has no bugs | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/b1d0101006b4013593f4005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-04 ) | Jun 11 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-04 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 21:30 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/lXGgztG.gif (gallery: https://imgur.com/lXGgztG ) | Jun 11 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 11 21:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Web browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe (and the certificate authorities operate as a cartel, requiring hundreds of dollars to sign your domains), but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | I've decided to switch my main browser to GNOME Web with Webkit2-GTK and keep Firefox around for stubborn websites. Nobody is going to test for Web since it has a marketshare of probably 1/1000 people who use the GNOME Desktop Environment on Linux. The fact that it uses Webkit makes it work though, usually, since Webkit is the engine that Safari uses, and it's also what Chrome's Blink engine is based on. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | As an aside, Webkit's origins are from KHTML. The rendering engine used in KDE. At the time Apple forked it (in 2002), they praised KHTML and KJS for coming in at 140,000 source lines of code. After all this "modern web" bullshit, 15 years later, Apple, Google, and other companies have Webkit sitting at 10,383,538 source lines of code. Yes, Apple and Google have managed to bloat Webkit to 74 times its original size in just 15 years. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | It can take 300 MB of RAM to load one tab with Facebook in it, in a "modern web" browser. :( | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | At this point, it's all about which rendering engine is the least bad. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | For GNOME's part, they made a decent browser around the shit sandwich that is Webkit. It reuses code and functionality from GNOME instead of duplicating the code for the browser itself, so it's less of a shit sandwich than Chrome. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | When you go to install Chrome on Linux, your package manager will tell you that 500 MB of garbage is about to be added to your computer. By comparison, everything that Web needs is already in GNOME and GTK. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I edited that to include (Is the web 74 times more useful now than it was in 2002?). | Jun 11 21:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 21:42 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, "Modern Web" means making it easy for random websites to run programs on your computer that you're not allowed to audit/inspect, etc. | Jun 11 21:43 |
| DaaemonFC | It's becoming a platform for non-free software distribution instead of simply viewing pages and downloading software to use on your computer. | Jun 11 21:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 21:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The W3C has allowed a few companies to take over the web and reshape it how a company like Microsoft or Apple sees fit. | Jun 11 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/LPJHQIj.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/LPJHQIj ) | Jun 11 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The original fidget spinner | Jun 11 21:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The original fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 21:48 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Then there's the problem of "premium content". | Jun 11 21:53 |
| DaaemonFC | Widevine | Jun 11 21:53 |
| DaaemonFC | They've turned HTML 5 into everything that was wrong with Flash. | Jun 11 21:54 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jun 11 21:54 |
| DaaemonFC | Including a proprietary DRM module that opens your computer up to attack. Or else, you can't watch Netflix or listen to Spotify. More stuff will break without it in the future. | Jun 11 21:54 |
| MinceR | they'll probably start blocking ordinary text | Jun 11 21:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make support for their DRM contingent on removing adblockers or something | Jun 11 21:55 |
| DaaemonFC | Thanks to Chrome's massive market share, they can commit atrocities against the web and its users. Next up is a program called "Funding Choices" which gives an ultimatum to adblock users to disable their ad filters or pay to use websites. | Jun 11 21:57 |
| DaaemonFC | We've seen this sort of stuff before, but more filter lists and userscripts came along to detect the anti-adblock code and disable it, allowing access to the site. Will Funding Choices be as easy to disable? Not if you use Chrome. Google will simply boot any program that's capable of interfering with it out of the Chrome Web Store, and there's nothing you can do about it as long as you use Chrome. | Jun 11 21:59 |
| MinceR | "clouds have made changes" | Jun 11 22:01 |
| MinceR | i see that canonical is also struggling with the english language | Jun 11 22:01 |
| DaaemonFC | I added, "Google's motto used to be "Don't Be Evil!", but you, dear reader, tell me which part of Chrome is good. It's certainly not well designed. It's certainly there to abuse you. It's not going to get any better than it is now. The only way to win the game is to refuse to play it. Uninstall Chrome and use a different browser!" | Jun 11 22:02 |
| MinceR | http://scorpiondagger.tumblr.com/post/160242457753 | Jun 11 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scorpiondagger.tumblr.com | scorpion dagger [ http://ur1.ca/qzm7p ] | Jun 11 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 11 22:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 22:08 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: what is canonical's mechanism for enforcing this ban? | Jun 11 22:11 |
| MinceR | presumably copyright, but i can't see it | Jun 11 22:11 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I think they just contacted Amazon and filed a DMCA complaint. | Jun 11 22:12 |
| DaaemonFC | Most web services don't even really investigate the complaint, they just take down your stuff and there's nothing you can do about it, even if the DMCA complaint was completely bogus. | Jun 11 22:13 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 11 22:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Facebook and Youtube are even worse. If they detect any copyrighted sound in your video, they won't let you post it, or disable all sound. | Jun 11 22:13 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Youtube is worse yet. They let anyone file a DMCA complaint and then demand to put ads in your video in exchange for their permission to use the content....Except that people with no copyright to anything file these on random videos to stuff them full of ads. They usually drop their claim if you challenge it. Most people don't, so it's a way of stealing from you. Youtube (Google) doesn't care. | Jun 11 22:15 |
| MinceR | https://www.demilked.com/funny-design-fails/ | Jun 11 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.demilked.com | 10+ Most Hilarious Design Fails By “Crappy Design” [ http://ur1.ca/qzmb1 ] | Jun 11 22:36 | |
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| DaaemonFC | Looks like Fedora still has Banshee Media Player. | Jun 11 23:05 |
| DaaemonFC | The site says the last update was released in 2014. | Jun 11 23:06 |
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| MinceR | spot the differences >> https://www.poolpro.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/2/8/28270_intex-rectangular-frame-pool-7ft-1.jpg http://catalog.saco-ksa.com/ramadan-offers-2017/files/assets/basic-html/page-46.html# | Jun 11 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalog.saco-ksa.com | Ramadan Offers 2017 [ http://ur1.ca/qzmf8 ] | Jun 11 23:13 | |
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| DaaemonFC | I guess I need to look at my Ogg files and re-encode from Flac any that were encoded with libvorbis before 1.3.2. | Jun 11 23:52 |
| DaaemonFC | xiphmont backed out some AoTuv changes that resulted in sound quality problems. | Jun 11 23:52 |
| DaaemonFC | No wonder he's never merged AoTuv since the last time, many years ago. | Jun 11 23:52 |
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| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/31/bofh_2017_episode_4/ | Jun 11 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: The Boss, the floppy and the work 'experience' • The Register | Jun 11 23:59 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaaemonFC | They don't have the resources that Mozilla does, and XUL Add Ons are going to be history soon. | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Inevitably, they'll need to fork Firefox from scratch again to get WebExtension support, give up on Pale Moon completely, or try to fork and maintain a few really important XUL extensions themselves. | Jun 12 00:27 |
| DaaemonFC | They're going to creak and clank in other ways too. | Jun 12 00:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They won't have the Wayland support that's going into Firefox without rebasing the patches onto Pale Moon. | Jun 12 00:29 |
| DaaemonFC | That's not trivial. | Jun 12 00:29 |
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| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I don't see where Wayland support equals changing everything. | Jun 12 00:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: its not like XUL direct stuff talks X11. | Jun 12 00:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://eischmann.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/nightly-and-wayland-builds-of-firefox-for-flatpak/ there are development branches of firefox that work on Wayland that are still XUL extention supporting. | Jun 12 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eischmann.wordpress.com | Nightly and Wayland Builds of Firefox for Flatpak | Brno hat | Jun 12 00:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds | Jun 12 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lumina Desktop 1.2.2, More https://t.co/NmzM7Libyb | Jun 12 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD-Based TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds Lumina Desktop 1.2.2, More | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #pcbsd #unix | Jun 12 05:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874124956770205696 | Jun 12 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security Supported | Jun 12 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hardware Architecture https://t.co/WYINZCvmKT | Jun 12 05:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gentoo #saprc #gnu #llinux | Jun 12 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security Supported Hardware Architecture | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security | Jun 12 05:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 05:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 05:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874127116731912194 | Jun 12 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE News | Jun 12 05:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7qnGQHLxMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt | Jun 12 05:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE News | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #neon #plasma #gnu #linux | Jun 12 05:53 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Neon Developer Unstable Edition and Older KDE...' | Jun 12 05:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874128314872586240 | Jun 12 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers | Jun 12 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ditching #Debian for #Devuan https://t.co/HK01st50Fj | Jun 12 05:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #security #gnu #linux #systemd | Jun 12 05:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching Debian for Devuan | Tux Machines | Jun 12 05:57 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 06:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874130744641298433 | Jun 12 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMETracker 2.0 and #UnitedGNOME | Jun 12 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/N4cfWFzgQn (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 12 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Tracker 2.0 and United GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 12 06:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874131555052126208 | Jun 12 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! | Jun 12 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5RKSYBOs1R (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 06:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dasyatis | Jun 12 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #germany #debian #freedom | Jun 12 06:11 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tanglu 4 (Dasyatis kuhlii) released! https://t.co/5RKSYBOs1R #gnu #linux...' | Jun 12 06:11 | |
| MinceR | 12 012605 < DaaemonFC> MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 12 06:20 |
| MinceR | so's failfox | Jun 12 06:20 |
| MinceR | mozilla just keeps making it worse and worse | Jun 12 06:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOMETracker 2.0 and #UnitedGNOME https://t.co/N4cfWFzgQn #gnome #gnu #linux' | Jun 12 06:27 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/07/bofh_2017_episode_5/ | Jun 12 06:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Defenestration, a solution to Solutions To Problems We Don't Have • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qzo76 ] | Jun 12 06:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874135963571822592 | Jun 12 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Jun 12 06:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jHPvac0mFB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 12 06:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Tux Machines | Jun 12 06:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874136497380880384 | Jun 12 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software Releases: The New and the Slightly Older | Jun 12 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jHPvac0mFB (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 12 06:56 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 12 07:02 |
| MinceR | https://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/160811148746/how-would-you-describe-your-experience-with | Jun 12 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securityreactions.tumblr.com | Infosec Reactions — "How would you describe your experience with... | Jun 12 07:25 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenWareB favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 12 07:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks These things have escalated further since. The...' | Jun 12 08:00 | |
| schestowitz | #Infosec Reactions | Jun 12 08:05 |
| schestowitz | https://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/160811148746/how-would-you-describe-your-experience-with #security | Jun 12 08:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks These things have escalated further...' | Jun 12 08:08 | |
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| DaaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/04/brendan_eich_quits_mozilla_let_s_purge_all_the_antigay_donors_to_prop_8.html | Jun 12 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slate.com | Brendan Eich quits Mozilla: Let’s purge all the anti-gay donors to Prop 8. | Jun 12 08:45 | |
| DaaemonFC | I seem to recall people defending the prick. | Jun 12 08:45 |
| DaaemonFC | He put money towards a political campaign designed to deny people civil rights and was dumb enough to think that nobody would ever notice that his name and donation were public records because of campaign finance laws? | Jun 12 08:46 |
| DaaemonFC | schestowitz, Now he's in charge of a fork of Google Chrome that has no reason to exist. | Jun 12 08:47 |
| DaaemonFC | I can't imagine why anyone would use "Brave". It sounds like what Google is about to do with their "ad filter" and "Funding Choices". | Jun 12 08:47 |
| DaaemonFC | Brave had no chance. Google can boil the frog. Introduce user hostile shit a piece at a time and people will sit there and take it. | Jun 12 08:48 |
| DaaemonFC | If Widevine, Funding Choices, and booting ad blockers out of the Chrome Web Store happened at the same time, people might have noticed. | Jun 12 08:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Unfortunately, people are so used to being pissed on that they barely notice it anymore. | Jun 12 08:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Windows 10 is one giant piece of malware and people use it. | Jun 12 08:50 |
| DaaemonFC | What's one more layer of malware? | Jun 12 08:50 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm, my media player is playing Angry Chair by Alice in Chains. | Jun 12 08:56 |
| DaaemonFC | I think of Ballmer whenever I hear this. | Jun 12 08:56 |
| DaaemonFC | He managed to destroy Microsoft as a company even if people don't realize it yet. | Jun 12 08:57 |
| DaaemonFC | He could not see five feet in front of him. | Jun 12 08:57 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I looked into ZFS on Ubuntu. | Jun 12 08:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Apparently, they broke it again. | Jun 12 08:59 |
| DaaemonFC | The Wiki says not to try to install Ubuntu 17.04 to ZFS. | Jun 12 09:01 |
| DaaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1685528 | Jun 12 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1685528 “ZFS initramfs mounts dataset explicitly set not to...” : Bugs : zfs-linux package : Ubuntu | Jun 12 09:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 09:04 | |
| DaaemonFC | "Somehow the upstream initramfs zfs script got pulled in, which can break the boot process due to some funky mount overruling." | Jun 12 09:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 09:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874175754396991488 | Jun 12 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ | Jun 12 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #backdoor | Jun 12 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #https #intel | Jun 12 09:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ #microsoft #windows #backdoor #https #intel' | Jun 12 09:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178268286595072 | Jun 12 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i | Jun 12 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #eu #freesw #sk #slovakia #italy | Jun 12 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #uk #gds sharing | Jun 12 09:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i #eu #freesw...' | Jun 12 09:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178865429704704 | Jun 12 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk | Jun 12 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Older FSF/GNU/GPL News | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister @jeremycorbyn ought...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk' | Jun 12 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874180528290836480 | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodi #dgplug #bsd #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 12 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Thinkfoundation https://twitter.com/Thinkfoundation/status/874181587608514562 | Jun 12 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The THINK! Daily! https://t.co/Up6sA039Wx | Jun 12 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @Anandstweets @tuxmachines | Jun 12 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The THINK! Daily | Jun 12 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @DaveAMontez #opengov #ict4d | Jun 12 09:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874182714383106048 | Jun 12 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, | Jun 12 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox Photon, and #Tor 7.0 https://t.co/aAqH7xc2H8 | Jun 12 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Browsers: Chrome 61, Mozilla Against Software Patents, Firefox Photon, and Tor 7.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #www #swpats #anonymity | Jun 12 09:34 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | I might try out XFCE in Fedora. | Jun 12 09:39 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME seems to be a little piggish. | Jun 12 09:39 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874185138418065408 | Jun 12 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk | Jun 12 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #RaspAnd #androido and #btrfs in | Jun 12 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android | Jun 12 09:44 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk #RaspAnd #androido...' | Jun 12 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CGS_Computers retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874186386517106693 | Jun 12 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj | Jun 12 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #canonical #freesw | Jun 12 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj #gnu #linux #canonical...' | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874187270529482752 | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 09:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations' | Jun 12 09:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #flock #fedora #gnu #linux | Jun 12 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189415329017856 | Jun 12 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ | Jun 12 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 12 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189941022089216 | Jun 12 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a | Jun 12 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux #gaming | Jun 12 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 10:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbanffy favourited 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191104463310848 | Jun 12 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX | Jun 12 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | Jun 12 10:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191770791407616 | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, Tanglu 4 | Techrights | Jun 12 10:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX' | Jun 12 10:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyrokitteh favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 10:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874199357607882752 | Jun 12 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 11:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874204744725778433 | Jun 12 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ | Jun 12 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) #golang #google #programming | Jun 12 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 12 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 11:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874208270516465666 | Jun 12 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source | Jun 12 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | push in GeM https://t.co/ezLx6SoVc1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #india | Jun 12 11:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/4thdoctor_scarf/status/874209502807162880 | Jun 12 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers | Jun 12 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @4thdoctor_scarf Ditching #Debian for #Devuan https://t.co/HK01st50Fj | Jun 12 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching Debian for Devuan | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:21 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends Quick! Buy her stuff....' | Jun 12 12:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/microsoft-raises-concerns-on-governments-open-source-push-in-gem-2299293.html Now that is a read and a half. | Jun 12 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM - Moneycontrol.com | Jun 12 12:19 | |
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| cubexyz | horseshit | Jun 12 12:41 |
| cubexyz | M$ isn't one of the biggest contributors to "open source" | Jun 12 12:42 |
| cubexyz | they are the biggest closed source dog of them all | Jun 12 12:43 |
| cubexyz | avoid using microsoft products, that's the best advice I can give | Jun 12 12:44 |
| cubexyz | " But when you change the user-agent string of your browser on Linux to match IE or Edge, suddenly OneDrive's web code runs fine" | Jun 12 12:45 |
| cubexyz | see? same horseshit as always | Jun 12 12:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct its statement is part true over 1billion dollars a year goes into security auditing software. | Jun 12 12:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft does in fact invest a lot in open source but its open source for their own benefit. | Jun 12 12:47 |
| cubexyz | on cyber security, that doesn't necessarily mean open source | Jun 12 12:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its into a set of join USA government and industry projects that are open source. | Jun 12 12:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is because the tools have to be peer reviewed. | Jun 12 12:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft cannot trust their own staff neither can any of the other companies involved. | Jun 12 12:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: making closed source software without sold cybersecurity is not going to work right if other parties can break in and steal the source code. | Jun 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of it this way Microsoft does not trust it own security software as a black box yet it sells closed source software. Now this is really the pot calling the kettle black right. | Jun 12 12:56 |
| MinceR | m$ never cared about security, though | Jun 12 12:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when it comes to their own data yes. | Jun 12 13:00 |
| MinceR | or anyone's | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie Microsoft cares about security when it there own stuff. When it anyone else they don't give a stuff. | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that is backed by where Microsoft invests the money. | Jun 12 13:01 |
| MinceR | then they're just incompetent | Jun 12 13:01 |
| cubexyz | M$ cares about lock-in and $$$ | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 1 billion dollars in cybersecurity that does not end up shipped in any of their own products. | Jun 12 13:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes cybersecurity to protect their $$$ | Jun 12 13:02 |
| cubexyz | what microsoft did to scanners and printers was criminal | Jun 12 13:02 |
| cubexyz | influencing harware like that | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | I don't recall DEC doing that | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | hardware | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | then this secure boot crap happend | Jun 12 13:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, they love wasting money and bragging about it | Jun 12 13:05 |
| MinceR | and at the end their products and services are still all atrocious | Jun 12 13:05 |
| cubexyz | when I heard people say "oh, it's time for a giant windows 10 update, I can't use my computer for hours" I knew that was the end | Jun 12 13:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if they sold proper solid products where would be the upgrade treadmill. | Jun 12 13:06 |
| cubexyz | people _expect_ things to be shitty now | Jun 12 13:06 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/jNf8pa8.png (html: https://imgur.com/jNf8pa8 ) | Jun 12 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch fuckup assessment form - Imgur | Jun 12 13:06 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dunno, but sounds like it's worth a try | Jun 12 13:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i have yet to see perfect products on that scale. | Jun 12 13:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the mil grade drone control software. Its insanely bug free. | Jun 12 13:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/luismoran/status/874229949724594176 | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @luismoran (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #androido | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openplus #chrome | Jun 12 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874239305224519681 | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | what it replaces https://t.co/sV8Q4EHmpo | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux inside. | Jun 12 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than what it replaces | Tux Machines | Jun 12 13:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more...' | Jun 12 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks As of the 9th of June, for...' | Jun 12 13:24 | |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/7N9c0L5drak https://youtu.be/HPJtF5yGx6A | Jun 12 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Задержания на Марсовом поле 12 июня - YouTube | Jun 12 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Около 300 человек уже задержаны в Петербурге на Марсовом поле - YouTube | Jun 12 13:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Today's an interesting day in Russia, as predicted. | Jun 12 13:39 |
| XRevan86 | The anti-corruption meeting on the Field of Mars in St. Petersburg. | Jun 12 13:40 |
| MinceR | government deceit is interesting? :> | Jun 12 13:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe I'm biased :) | Jun 12 13:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 12 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | If I would've been a better citizen, I'd be there, on the Field of Mars. | Jun 12 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this is the biggest anti-institutional event in Russia since 2011 | Jun 12 13:44 |
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| XRevan86 | And the regime is more concerned than ever before. | Jun 12 13:45 |
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| XRevan86 | The leader of this whole thing Aleksey Navalny was apprehended at the entry of his apartment earlier today. | Jun 12 13:48 |
| MinceR | oh, a protest | Jun 12 13:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many people putler will have killed | Jun 12 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/meeting/protest/ oops :) | Jun 12 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: killed?… | Jun 12 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | Today's Russia Day, BTW. | Jun 12 13:53 |
| XRevan86 | A person I know just came from the protest (on the Field of Mars), he says everything went relatively calm except for people who were trying to get on the monument. | Jun 12 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's better to wait for better, more complete, news about the whole thing… | Jun 12 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | instead of Breaking News :) | Jun 12 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: what do you make of the famous arrest today? | Jun 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust the BBC much... | Jun 12 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was kind of expected. | Jun 12 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | Not the first time/ | Jun 12 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | What does BBC write about it? | Jun 12 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | If I understood it right, the government sanctioned the demonstration on Sakharova prospect but sound system providers refused to provide for the demostration, saying they are being threatened | Jun 12 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | so Navalny decided to make the demonstration on a better, but not santioned place – Tverskaya street. | Jun 12 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | So he was probably taken by attempting to make an unsanctioned demostration, which apparently counts as extremism %) | Jun 12 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874330405486211072 | Jun 12 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 19:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Mobile Navigator App Released for Tizen-based Samsung Z1, Z2, Z3 and Z4 - Tizen Experts | Jun 12 19:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m #linux' | Jun 12 19:20 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... 1/3 of world overweight | Jun 12 19:29 |
| *XRevan86 reads: for an administrative punishment by laws "Secondary violation of demonstration organisation rules" and "Disobidience of lawful orders of a police officer" | Jun 12 19:30 | |
| XRevan86 | for that Navalny will either get a fine of 20 000 rubles, mandatory labour for 40 hours or 10 days arrest | Jun 12 19:31 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What is? | Jun 12 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg and here's the photo of the arrest. | Jun 12 19:34 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/se-1.jpg | Jun 12 19:36 |
| cubexyz | a third of the population of humans on earth are fat :) | Jun 12 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Huh, I didn't realise there are so many first world people | Jun 12 19:38 |
| MinceR | patience, they're working on it | Jun 12 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | And… a third? | Jun 12 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | When I walk on streets, I barely see any | Jun 12 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | How fat are the UK and US really? | Jun 12 19:41 |
| MinceR | here's that photo in higher resolution: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg:orig | Jun 12 19:42 |
| MinceR | the roof of that tiny building is really weird | Jun 12 19:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/874330528723480576 | Jun 12 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @verfassungklage (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 19:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like they are...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Huh, now that you mentioned it, WTF is that building? | Jun 12 19:43 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Educate yourself, Donnie. I know it's hard...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
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| cubexyz | Samoa, Tonga and Kiribati are 80% overweight | Jun 12 19:43 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i guess it's a public toilet | Jun 12 19:44 |
| MinceR | possibly for a single person at a time | Jun 12 19:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-in-the-world.html | Jun 12 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-29 Most Obese Countries In The World - WorldAtlas.com [ http://ur1.ca/qzqfs ] | Jun 12 19:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not a logical place for that | Jun 12 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | Most of the people passing that building by would be able to use the loo at their own homes because are living in the local building. | Jun 12 19:46 |
| cubexyz | evidently there's tons of fast food places in pacific island nations | Jun 12 19:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: entrance to FSB black site | Jun 12 19:46 |
| MinceR | ...disguised as public toilet | Jun 12 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | or a solitary confinement conviniently placed right next to the place Navalny lives in | Jun 12 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | "in times of uncertainty place your Navalny in the box until the police officers arrive" | Jun 12 19:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/28/bofh_2017_episode_6/ | Jun 12 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back • The Register | Jun 12 19:50 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Lc7pesU.jpg | Jun 12 20:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Jun 12 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a8KmYHDGjp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Tux Machines | Jun 12 20:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874341913687666688 | Jun 12 21:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf | Jun 12 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874381733134827520 | Jun 12 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV | Jun 12 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iot #device #gnu #sbc | Jun 12 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No lack of Linux IoT projects | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/12jun2017/navalny_sud.html Navalny will get a month of an administrative arrest. | Jun 12 22:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @roomeezon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Jun 12 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU (www.tuxmachines.org) #wifi | Jun 12 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #arduiuno #multiloop #ERASynth | Jun 12 22:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874385000023642112 | Jun 12 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch | Jun 12 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Jun 12 22:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Makers of the $249 Litebook Linux laptop launch mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch...' | Jun 12 22:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark of #macOS 10.12.5 vs. #Ubuntu 17.04 vs. | Jun 12 23:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS 10.12.5 vs. Ubuntu 17.04 vs. Clear Linux On A Mac Mini | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | We can now detect recurrent events in #GNOMECalendar | Jun 12 23:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We can now detect recurrent events in GNOME Calendar | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Beta Adopts Xfce as Default Desktop Environment Instead of LXDE | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 12 23:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Jun 12 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 12 23:47 |
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| cubexyz | ok, if you are running a computer older than 2005 you don't have Intel ME | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | probably up to 2007 is also safe | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | it wasn't until 2005 that intel started the funny business with ethernet controllers | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I'm not clear on how it can intercept TCP/IP traffic when the computer is suspended | Jun 13 00:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 2005 and before it could be hiding in a network card | Jun 13 00:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: controller that could keybord video mouse appears 2001. | Jun 13 00:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: network controllers that should have been. | Jun 13 00:26 |
| cubexyz | that sounds more like a KVM switch | Jun 13 00:28 |
| cubexyz | or KVM over IP (which I definitely do not have) | Jun 13 00:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: what I am refering to is network cards. | Jun 13 00:29 |
| cubexyz | give me some examples | Jun 13 00:31 |
| oiaohm | The most powerful example is https://www.uxd.com/phdpci2.shtml | Jun 13 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uxd.com | P.H.D. PCI 2 - Professional Hardware Diagnostics PCI | Jun 13 00:31 | |
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| oiaohm | It scary how much can be controlled from PCI bus back into system. | Jun 13 00:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input%E2%80%93output_memory_management_unit in the chipset before vt-d your PCI bus can do what ever it likes. | Jun 13 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Input–output memory management unit - Wikipedia | Jun 13 00:34 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so from 1992 until the introduction of vt-d a ME like chip could be hidden in any PCI card with a powerful enough cpu. | Jun 13 00:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: even before PCI there were major bus security issues. | Jun 13 00:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically general PC was not designed for security. | Jun 13 00:38 |
| cubexyz | before vt-d? | Jun 13 00:41 |
| MinceR | and during and after vt-d | Jun 13 00:42 |
| MinceR | at least you can remove PCI cards and use the system without a particular card | Jun 13 00:43 |
| cubexyz | oh, I get it | Jun 13 00:46 |
| cubexyz | "Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O" | Jun 13 00:46 |
| cubexyz | when did that first appear? | Jun 13 00:48 |
| cubexyz | seems to be a x86 virtualization thing | Jun 13 00:49 |
| MinceR | after plain vt-x | Jun 13 00:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, so Pentium 4 era... around 2005 | Jun 13 00:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874397713856700422 | Jun 13 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Jun 13 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 13 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 13 00:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu & UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Tux Machines | Jun 13 00:53 | |
| cubexyz | don't think I have that | Jun 13 00:54 |
| oiaohm | 2007 is when vt-d first appears. | Jun 13 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: when you get old enough to avoid me in the motherboard you are also old enough that you don't have protection from pci cards. | Jun 13 00:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically stuffed either way. | Jun 13 00:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: remember the one with firewire card accessing all of memory. | Jun 13 00:56 |
| cubexyz | so what computer should I use? | Jun 13 00:56 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/carmaa/inception open source version of memory mugging. | Jun 13 00:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - carmaa/inception: Inception is a physical memory manipulation and hacking tool exploiting PCI-based DMA. The tool can attack over FireWire, Thunderbolt, ExpressCard, PC Card and any other PCI/PCIe interfaces. | Jun 13 00:57 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't have a recommendation. PC desktop/Server systems I have looked at have major design issues. | Jun 13 00:58 |
| oiaohm | Even arm devices in phones and the like can be lacking vt-d stuff this is how come the broadcom wifi attack recently against iphone and many android devices worked so well. | Jun 13 00:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sopanx/status/874472265408106496 | Jun 13 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Zorin OS 12 Lite Adopts #Xfce as Default Desktop | Jun 13 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sopanx Environment Instead of #LXDE https://t.co/HS73NzpNpJ | Jun 13 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #zorin #zorinos #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 13 04:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Beta Adopts Xfce as Default Desktop Environment Instead of LXDE | Tux Machines | Jun 13 04:47 | |
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| DaaemonFC | https://blogs.igalia.com/carlosgc/2017/03/20/webkitgtk-2-16/ | Jun 13 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | WebKitGTK+ 2.16 | Carlos Garcia Campos | Jun 13 04:54 | |
| DaaemonFC | "The overlay can be shown/hidden by pressing CTRL+Shit+G." | Jun 13 04:54 |
| DaaemonFC | *giggles* | Jun 13 04:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#Tanglu 4 #GNU #Linux Distro Released with #UEFI...' | Jun 13 05:14 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/plRwrlT.png | Jun 13 06:07 |
| MinceR | i don't have a Shit key :( | Jun 13 06:07 |
| MinceR | 12 072021 < MinceR> 12 012605 < DaaemonFC> MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 13 06:08 |
| MinceR | 12 072024 < MinceR> so's failfox | Jun 13 06:08 |
| MinceR | 12 072100 < MinceR> mozilla just keeps making it worse and worse | Jun 13 06:08 |
| MinceR | and ZFS is probably just as illegal on Linux as ever :> | Jun 13 06:08 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, If they're lucky, Oracle won't bother to sue them over it. | Jun 13 06:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Their lawyers are using the same argument that proprietary driver vendors do. | Jun 13 06:14 |
| MinceR | most of them don't sue users of their software, though | Jun 13 06:16 |
| schestowitz | morning... | Jun 13 06:19 |
| MinceR | moaning | Jun 13 06:22 |
| schestowitz | that's what she did | Jun 13 06:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874497002553438208 | Jun 13 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #OculusRift CV1 on #GNU #Linux, #Geneshift, The | Jun 13 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UndergroundKing, #XCOM 2 and More | Jun 13 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XSLqllxU0b (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 13 06:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 13 06:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Oculus Rift CV1 on GNU/Linux, Geneshift, The Underground King, XCOM 2 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 13 06:23 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 13 06:23 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #OculusRift CV1 on #GNU #Linux, #Geneshift, The...' | Jun 13 06:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874504489637642240 | Jun 13 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu #Graphics and #Snappy Improvements | Jun 13 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fi9Tbs1jVX (www.tuxmachines.org) #snap | Jun 13 06:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 13 06:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Graphics and Snappy Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 13 06:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu #Graphics and #Snappy Improvements https://t.co/fi9Tbs1jVX #snap #canonical...' | Jun 13 06:51 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu #Graphics and #Snappy Improvements https://t.co/fi9Tbs1jVX #snap #canonical...' | Jun 13 07:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874507828010119169 | Jun 13 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux in Cars https://t.co/WqF94tvWjz | Jun 13 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tesla #toyota | Jun 13 07:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux in Cars | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux in Cars https://t.co/WqF94tvWjz #tesla #toyota' | Jun 13 07:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874508431960539136 | Jun 13 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows Protocols (Samba) and Cryptocurrency | Jun 13 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i6r3x88oxt (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 13 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #windows #smb #nsa #samba #security #wannacry | Jun 13 07:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Protocols (Samba) and Cryptocurrency | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows Protocols (Samba) and Cryptocurrency https://t.co/i6r3x88oxt #microsoft #windows...' | Jun 13 07:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/zfNHMhPJfH | Jun 13 07:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 07:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874510422774362112 | Jun 13 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake of #WannaCry | Jun 13 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B34GhbLooT (www.tuxmachines.org) #india | Jun 13 07:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indians Migrate to GNU/Linux in the Wake of WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:16 | |
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| DaaemonFC | https://www.freetype.org/patents.html | Jun 13 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freetype.org | FreeType and Patents | Jun 13 07:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874512314556403712 | Jun 13 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04, Ships with | Jun 13 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MATE 1.18 and Linux 4.11 https://t.co/uMOUnv5Rz0 | Jun 13 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 07:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exton|OS Linux Is Now Based on Ubuntu 17.04, Ships with MATE 1.18 and Linux 4.11 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:24 | |
| DaaemonFC | Steve Gibson says that the MS Cleartype patents are invalid, but that's the same guy that got hacked by a twelve year old and wrote an essay about it. | Jun 13 07:24 |
| MinceR | cleartype sucks ass anyway | Jun 13 07:25 |
| MinceR | unavoidable colorful fringes everywhere | Jun 13 07:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Cleartype patents apparently expire in 2019 since they were approved in 1999. | Jun 13 07:28 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I use the freetype-freeworld package on Fedora and configure it to use the patented subpixel rendering. | Jun 13 07:30 |
| DaaemonFC | It looks a lot better than Cleartype. | Jun 13 07:30 |
| MinceR | i disable subpixel hinting | Jun 13 07:30 |
| MinceR | it not only looks flawless as it is, but stays that way even when zoomed | Jun 13 07:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04,...' | Jun 13 07:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874515768188260355 | Jun 13 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning Live CD Updated with Linux | Jun 13 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.11.4, ZFS on Linux https://t.co/nwvHZ7QjGU | Jun 13 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 07:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parted Magic Disk Partitioning Live CD Updated with Linux 4.11.4, ZFS on Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 13 07:36 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/blob/master/COPYRIGHT zfs kernel driver on Linux is a define of a legal head ache. Some place it will be legal other places not so much. | Jun 13 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zfs/COPYRIGHT at master · zfsonlinux/zfs · GitHub | Jun 13 07:50 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: zfs kernel module depending on the not derivative work to stand and this also means it contains duplication to parts the Linux kernel has other solutions to. | Jun 13 07:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Jun 13 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG (www.tuxmachines.org) #cms | Jun 13 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 13 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Tux Machines | Jun 13 08:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG...' | Jun 13 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/DigestWordpress/status/874535182333640706 | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @DigestWordpress https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG (www.tuxmachines.org) #cms | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 13 08:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874536643298037760 | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oFpdSL6bIE (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rhel #gnu #linux | Jun 13 09:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available...' | Jun 13 09:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874538463646953472 | Jun 13 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 09:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 09:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA | Jun 13 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #bbm #blackberyr | Jun 13 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #androidauto #nokia | Jun 13 09:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 09:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA #android #google #bbm #blackberyr #androidauto...' | Jun 13 09:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake of #WannaCry | Jun 13 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://t.co/B34GhbLooT (www.tuxmachines.org) #india | Jun 13 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Thiruvananthapuram | Jun 13 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indians Migrate to GNU/Linux in the Wake of WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SecurityNews6 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874539855052722177 | Jun 13 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor | Jun 13 09:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Pomodoro, Stacer, UDisks, Qtractor | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfoSecurity99 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor https://t.co/dvLOONE4n3 #freesw' | Jun 13 09:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/874544686618345472 | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 10:26 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @CooksCeramics favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet...' | Jun 13 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet bowl, switch...' | Jun 13 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@paKTusa @realDonaldTrump There is a lot more to...' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You should be banned from the US...' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You should be banned from...' | Jun 13 12:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #trump does not even seem to know...' | Jun 13 12:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks #trump does not even seem...' | Jun 13 12:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 12:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874594705929113600 | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 12:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 12:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s' | Jun 13 12:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > Gnome Pomodoro – A Timer to Help Increase Your Productivity | Jun 13 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | not sure how time tracking is related to tomatoes | Jun 13 12:55 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 13 13:09 |
| MinceR | it's a method involving what was originally a tomato-shaped kitchen timer | Jun 13 13:09 |
| MinceR | i don't like it because it's rigid as hell | Jun 13 13:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, the timer's shape was very important to the method's author | Jun 13 13:11 |
| MinceR | or they were at a loss for a better name | Jun 13 13:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874595061023088641 | Jun 13 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 13:31 |
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| schestowitz | [12:54] <XRevan86> I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 13:32 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 13 13:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS' | Jun 13 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS | Jun 13 13:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Now at stage 4, Donnie, you are...' | Jun 13 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874610357200990209 | Jun 13 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake news. | Jun 13 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your hypocrisy is showing... | Jun 13 13:52 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake...' | Jun 13 13:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the law by...' | Jun 13 13:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the...' | Jun 13 14:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And your family uses your new position...' | Jun 13 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any jobs. You...' | Jun 13 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any...' | Jun 13 14:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625240080539648 | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ahKUScDYyR (www.tuxmachines.org) #ksa | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #saudiArabia #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625553998938112 | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zRxvXMRHqv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security | Jun 13 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC...' | Jun 13 14:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 14:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own incompetence on...' | Jun 13 14:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise "life and...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04,...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 13 15:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874628724175581186 | Jun 13 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News/Apps https://t.co/dPkIcUzMEd | Jun 13 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News/Apps | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630209298989057 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace | Jun 13 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630770677166080 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/61H4vbl5Fk | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 15:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 15:14 | |
| cubexyz | never realized this existed: | Jun 13 15:21 |
| cubexyz | http://segaretro.org/Mega_PC | Jun 13 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segaretro.org | Mega PC | Jun 13 15:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/corbyn_man/status/874630985454891010 | Jun 13 15:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 15:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @corbyn_man (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 15:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:22 | |
| cubexyz | and there's teradrives on ebay | Jun 13 15:24 |
| cubexyz | quite expensive | Jun 13 15:24 |
| cubexyz | NOS one is $6K Can | Jun 13 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874632956513587204 | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd ...' | Jun 13 15:33 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_TeraDrive one of these? | Jun 13 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sega TeraDrive - Wikipedia | Jun 13 15:35 | |
| cubexyz | yes, that's it | Jun 13 15:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that thing was a super odd ball with 3 different CPUs. | Jun 13 15:45 |
| MinceR | what did it use the z80 for? | Jun 13 15:48 |
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| cubexyz | for sound | Jun 13 16:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/874522092024320000 | Jun 13 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 16:55 | |
| schestowitz | "Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/874392638723694592 | Jun 13 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @Sheikh_al_Touar @DavidBrooke_IP @WorldIPReview @ipwatch @patentbuddy @Twpalovi @Wikinaut No honest one, that is. T… https://t.co/7bRvURqJ11 | Jun 13 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | "No honest one, that is. Trolls and speculators are gleefully feeding on it without remorse making millions." | Jun 13 16:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/874635838902108161 | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 17:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874682871511908352 | Jun 13 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights | Jun 13 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3KRrYTBIbE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683274546880512 | Jun 13 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 | Jun 13 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #nokia #lg #india #linux | Jun 13 18:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683786377789441 | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Not Code https://t.co/RoaEYzAtAB (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #freedom #foss | Jun 13 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, Not Code | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 #android #nokia #lg #india #linux' | Jun 13 18:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on #Flipkart at | Jun 13 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a discount https://t.co/OXW6f07gDN (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on Flipkart at a discount | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874684900594655233 | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With #NVIDIA | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | / #Radeon #Graphics On #Linux https://t.co/rbiD0u0nPC | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 13 18:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With NVIDIA/Radeon Graphics On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on #Flipkart...' | Jun 13 18:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu | Jun 13 19:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 13 19:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Amazon Greengrass launches as a snap on Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874688054186958848 | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YGPUafoCle (tuxmachines.org) #fedora #redhat | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu...' | Jun 13 19:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Says it all... https://t.co/pCvMMEiWfR | Jun 13 19:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874691417679028224 | Jun 13 19:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874701950994042881 | Jun 13 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 19:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874702073513861125 | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DCqA7ZTJQ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gaming | Jun 13 19:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Time for him to leave, after that...' | Jun 13 19:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports https://t.co/DCqA7ZTJQ1 #games...' | Jun 13 20:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874703466018504705 | Jun 13 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B | Jun 13 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 20:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging Release 2.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B #wine #freesw...' | Jun 13 20:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#AlpineLinux 3.6 Security-Oriented OS Gets First Point Release...' | Jun 13 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874709405274648578 | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 13 20:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeUM1WDoOGY | Jun 13 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Do Cats Miaow? - Cats Uncovered - BBC - YouTube | Jun 13 20:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR...' | Jun 13 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874712300950892546 | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera. | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r0T8l28NXb (www.cinema5d.com) "actual | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating system of the camera are still under | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development." | Jun 13 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cinema5d.com | NO TITLE | Jun 13 20:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera....' | Jun 13 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713115002380288 | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz (www.phoronix.com) still my main | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | browser. Not ideal freedom-wise, but better than most | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | technically. | Jun 13 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla Firefox 54 Now Available - Phoronix | Jun 13 20:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713607296233472 | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky after | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapping Linux for Windows in Munich too risky after WannaCry attacks, warn Greens | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz still my...' | Jun 13 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbonifaz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874714739309518849 | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky after | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 21:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874721311569973249 | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpha Offers Core #i7 Centurion Laptop Running #GNU | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux for $429 https://t.co/fVEHRSikdn | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #elementaryOS #litebox | Jun 13 21:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Linux for $429 https://t.co/fVEHRSikdn | Jun 13 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #elementaryOS #litebox | Jun 13 21:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874735463034212352 | Jun 13 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Top 5 #Ubuntu Themes Of The Month https://t.co/vcrJqijTg8 | Jun 13 22:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Ubuntu Themes Of The Month | Tux Machines | Jun 13 22:10 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 13 23:02 | |
| DaaemonFC | I do wonder why Devuan chose to go back to SysVInit. | Jun 13 23:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Yuck. | Jun 13 23:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Maybe they could have adopted Upstart. | Jun 13 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Definitely not upstart | Jun 13 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | but maybe OpenRC :) | Jun 13 23:05 |
| DaaemonFC | SysVInit is not really for a modern computer where running things in parallel happen, lots of hardware events, etc. | Jun 13 23:06 |
| DaaemonFC | Also, systemd did solve a few real problems. | Jun 13 23:06 |
| DaaemonFC | Such as processes forking and escaping the control of init. | Jun 13 23:06 |
| DaaemonFC | That's kind of a bad one. | Jun 13 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Yeah, Devuan should go for systemd. Wait… | Jun 13 23:07 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, they can do what they want to do, but I can't imagine that the upstream for SysVInit is very active anymore, and it has problems which aren't ever going to be fixed. | Jun 13 23:27 |
| DaaemonFC | That being said, nobody has to use Devuan. | Jun 13 23:27 |
| DaaemonFC | I don't really feel like going back in time 10 years and having my desktop do unpredictable crap because I plugged in a flash drive. | Jun 13 23:28 |
| DaaemonFC | XRevan86, The upstream has been on the same version for 7 years. | Jun 13 23:31 |
| DaaemonFC | It's the new Grub 0.97. | Jun 13 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | > and having my desktop do unpredictable crap because I plugged in a flash drive | Jun 13 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Devuan uses udev, of course. | Jun 13 23:32 |
| DaaemonFC | Meh, I'll probably stick with Fedora. | Jun 13 23:37 |
| DaaemonFC | It usually "Just Works". | Jun 13 23:37 |
| DaaemonFC | The only part where I need to get directy involved is when it comes to setting up things that they can't legally include due to patents and such. | Jun 13 23:37 |
| DaaemonFC | I can't imagine that Devuan escapes those problems. | Jun 13 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: http://deb-multimedia.org/ | Jun 13 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deb-multimedia.org | Deb Multimedia Packages::Home | Jun 13 23:39 | |
| XRevan86 | Official Debian repos are more loose with patents than openSUSE and Fedora though. Not sure why. | Jun 13 23:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, I know of Debian Multimedia. | Jun 13 23:40 |
| DaaemonFC | I briefly used Debian for a while. | Jun 13 23:40 |
| DaaemonFC | It was a pain in the ass to set up at the time I tried it. | Jun 13 23:40 |
| DaaemonFC | That was a while ago. I think it might have been Debian 6. | Jun 13 23:41 |
| DaaemonFC | They probably got better. I don't know. | Jun 13 23:41 |
| DaaemonFC | The packages are almost always too old for my taste. | Jun 13 23:41 |
| DaaemonFC | Especially the kernel. | Jun 13 23:41 |
| DaaemonFC | Even Debian 9 is sticking with the 4.9 kernel, which has lingering issues with Skylake. | Jun 13 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: It's freezed, so… | Jun 13 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | Although I should point out https://packages.siduction.org/ and https://liquorix.net/ | Jun 13 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.siduction.org | Siduction Repositories - the community based OS - Repositories | Jun 13 23:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liquorix.net | Liquorix Kernel | Jun 13 23:43 | |
| DaaemonFC | I'd have to use something based on Testing or Sid. | Jun 13 23:44 |
| DaaemonFC | I know that a lot of people just install Testing and use it as a rolling release and it *usually* works fine. | Jun 13 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Shouldn't be a problem for a Fedora user :) | Jun 13 23:44 |
| DaaemonFC | By the time the packages make it to Testing, they're normally okay. | Jun 13 23:44 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora is probably comparable to Debian Testing. | Jun 13 23:45 |
| DaaemonFC | Rawhide is pretty much Sid. | Jun 13 23:45 |
| XRevan86 | And if you're only into a new kernel, liquorix can deliver even without having the whole Debian testing | Jun 13 23:45 |
| DaaemonFC | RHEL would be like Debian Stable. | Jun 13 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: No, that analogy is not very good… | Jun 13 23:46 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, even Fedora sticks with some packages throughout the release. | Jun 13 23:46 |
| DaaemonFC | The GNOME package group for instance, spare minor updates. | Jun 13 23:46 |
| DaaemonFC | But KDE gets major versions. | Jun 13 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Same as in openSUSE I see. | Jun 13 23:47 |
| DaaemonFC | KDE is a spin, so different rules apply. | Jun 13 23:47 |
| DaaemonFC | The spins can do whatever they want as long as it's an isolated change (Only their SIG's packages, not the core OS.). | Jun 13 23:47 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME is considered core. | Jun 13 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: It's probably due to new GNOME requiring new GTK+ and GLib | Jun 13 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | and new autotools, gettext, etc. | Jun 13 23:48 |
| DaaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 13 23:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Tails 3.0 Anonymous Operating System Officially | Jun 13 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Based on #Debian 9 https://t.co/iAzILyfyIt | Jun 13 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tor #anonymity #gnu #linux | Jun 13 23:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 3.0 Anonymous Operating System Officially Released, Based on Debian 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 23:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ufd78da4lx | Jun 14 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wannacry #ssh #raspi #nsa #ddos | Jun 14 00:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874771826244800513 | Jun 14 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Chrome 60 Beta, New #Firefox, #Thunderbird Themes | Jun 14 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HFdgkl3cHl (www.tuxmachines.org) #mozilla | Jun 14 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #google #www #email #freesw | Jun 14 00:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chrome 60 Beta, New Firefox, Thunderbird Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 14 00:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo | Jun 14 00:40 |
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| DaaemonFC | Ugh. Well, Fedora 26 Beta is out. Still defaults to Wayland. Wayland still sucks for games. | Jun 14 05:45 |
| DaaemonFC | XWayland is obviously not an answer for anything that needs performance. | Jun 14 05:45 |
| DaaemonFC | I hope they keep the GNOME on Xorg session around for a while. | Jun 14 05:45 |
| DaaemonFC | At this rate it will take years for Wayland to be more than a curiosity for people who have real applications to run. | Jun 14 05:46 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: the benchmarks on XWayland does not show really that much performance overhead. | Jun 14 05:47 |
| DaaemonFC | Bullshit it's not high overhead. | Jun 14 05:49 |
| DaaemonFC | For one thing, you lose about 20-30% on the average framerate on the benchmark, which is significant, but then the game is unplayable because Wayland doesn't allow it to drop frames. | Jun 14 05:50 |
| DaaemonFC | So if it's too late to render something, the game just freezes up as it tries to recover the missing frame and then you lose 20 more. | Jun 14 05:50 |
| DaaemonFC | It's completely stupid, and that's before the touch problems that XWayland has. | Jun 14 05:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Want to know if an app is running on XWayland or Wayland? Try dragging it by the title bar or pressing one of the title bar buttons with your finger. | Jun 14 05:51 |
| DaaemonFC | If it doesn't respond at all, it's XWayland. | Jun 14 05:51 |
| DaaemonFC | I'm staying on Xorg until they get this mess sorted out. | Jun 14 05:52 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland does not forbid dropping frames | Jun 14 05:53 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-24-Alpha-Game-Tests the more recent tests has the lost between 10% and nothing. | Jun 14 05:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 24 Alpha X.Org vs. (X)Wayland Gaming Tests - Phoronix | Jun 14 05:55 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so difference between Xwayland and X.org on native hardware has been reducing quite a bit. | Jun 14 05:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: http://gstreamer-bugs.narkive.com/I0oj9ZYx/bug-740803-new-waylandsink-double-check-the-frame-callback-before-dropping-frames you are right that frame droppinng method being different causes some problems. | Jun 14 06:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gstreamer-bugs.narkive.com | [Bug 740803] New: waylandsink: Double-check the frame callback before dropping frames [ http://ur1.ca/qzxp7 ] | Jun 14 06:03 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland protocol it self contains a command to drop a frame already send to the output stream if possible this is locking and high overhead. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | I tried to make a reply to Phoronix about Firefox 54. I think it's in moderation because of a new account. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | I wrote: | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox doesn't support Wayland. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | It doesn't do multi-process very well. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | (By default, but many distros turn this off.) it installs proprietary software that not even Mozilla can fix when there is a security problem, without explaining the implications to the user. (Widevine) | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | It still has the bug where if you apply a dark GTK+ theme, the color scheme in Firefox goes horribly wrong and many forms can't be used.....15 years later. Although I hear a fix is in for Firefox 55. I'll believe it when I see it. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME Web is cleaner, faster, and has the good stuff (libhttpseverywhere, ad blocking, tracker blocking, etc.) on and enabled by default and has obliterated the preference mess and the cross-platform compromises that Firefox makes, along with Firefox's completely third-rate Linux support. Mozilla clearly doesn't see Linux as a priority platform. We often go several releases before we get the same features that Windows users get. Sick of | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | it. Sick of it. Sick of it.... | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox on my computer is a backup web browser, and thankfully I don't have to mess with it very often. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Mozilla wonders why their users are abandoning them. It's because they abandoned their users. | Jun 14 06:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Also, their new website looks dodgy af. :) | Jun 14 06:04 |
| oiaohm | Firefox runs straight into that gstreamer one. | Jun 14 06:05 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox has devolved into a mess. A complete mess. | Jun 14 06:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes wayland provides means to pull a frame off the output que. That is something you should avoid doing. | Jun 14 06:06 |
| oiaohm | By only putting completed frames on output que. | Jun 14 06:06 |
| DaaemonFC | The last release that was any good was the 3.6 branch. | Jun 14 06:06 |
| oiaohm | That way you can drop without performance hit. | Jun 14 06:06 |
| oiaohm | wayland automatically skips forwards on the output que. | Jun 14 06:07 |
| oiaohm | So there has been a issue doing X11 behavours on wayland. | Jun 14 06:07 |
| DaaemonFC | The whole system seems to perform better on X. | Jun 14 06:12 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: that is not the case. | Jun 14 06:12 |
| DaaemonFC | I don't see why they would remove the X11 option anytime soon. They need almost the whole stack to do XWayland anyway. | Jun 14 06:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wayland when used correctly results in lower memory usage. | Jun 14 06:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: turns out bad performing routes X11 does are also bad for X11 ram usage. | Jun 14 06:13 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Firefox 54 in developer builds there is wayland version. | Jun 14 06:14 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: correction most of the bad performing routes under Xwayland turns out to be also bad for X11 native in ram usage. So should be fixed anyhow. | Jun 14 06:16 |
| DaaemonFC | oiaohm, Do LTS kernels get new hardware support? | Jun 14 06:33 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: the answer is LTS revision numbers do and more hardware support. Not always everything in latest release. | Jun 14 06:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: new bit of hardware might depend on a structure that putting in LTS risks breaking everything so that would not end up in LTS. | Jun 14 06:36 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so where is sane is added to the LTS. | Jun 14 06:36 |
| DaaemonFC | So if there were problems getting my laptop to work with the early 4.9 kernels or missing drivers for wifi and touchpad, that might be resolved? | Jun 14 06:38 |
| DaaemonFC | I suppose I'll check out Debian 9 in a live environment. | Jun 14 06:39 |
| DaaemonFC | I wonder if they have everything set up or still make you spend hours doing it yourself. At the time of Squeeze, I was horrified to see a distribution that had me install a desktop OS without Pulseaudio. | Jun 14 06:40 |
| DaaemonFC | Then when I did configure it, it wasn't working very well. | Jun 14 06:40 |
| DaaemonFC | By the time it was, I couldn't tell you what I had done. | Jun 14 06:40 |
| oiaohm | wifi could be the next LTS. There are changes in the wifi stack required for some cards. The touchpad there has been no major changes in that area of structure so should get backported once mainline kernel supports it. | Jun 14 06:41 |
| DaaemonFC | oiaohm, I know that Fedora 25 didn't detect my wifi chipset in the original live environment. | Jun 14 06:43 |
| DaaemonFC | At some point, they did an installer respin and brought in a kernel where the driver was added. | Jun 14 06:43 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: fedora 25 is 4.10 | Jun 14 06:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: on the other side of the wifi stack change. | Jun 14 06:44 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: and I want https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_4.11 4.11 and newer for better SMB support. | Jun 14 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernelnewbies.org | Linux 4.11 - Linux Kernel Newbies | Jun 14 06:46 | |
| DaaemonFC | Strange. Ubuntu works with the wifi and has a 4.10 kernel | Jun 14 06:46 |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1497.html | Jun 14 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Jun 14 06:46 | |
| DaaemonFC | Ubuntu 17.04 | Jun 14 06:46 |
| DaaemonFC | Apparently, Fedora 25 shipped with kernel 4.8. | Jun 14 06:47 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel Fedora 25 might have shiped with 4.8 but changes to 4.10 by update. | Jun 14 06:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Kernel - FedoraProject | Jun 14 06:48 | |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so fedora wifi fixed it self by going to newer kernel version. | Jun 14 06:48 |
| DaaemonFC | Right. | Jun 14 06:50 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess I can always just boot up into the Live environment when Debian 9 is released. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: basically that hardware does not like 4.9 or older. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Give everything a once over. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| DaaemonFC | Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 42) | Jun 14 06:51 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I would suspect debian 9 is not going to like you. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| DaaemonFC | That's what it reports. | Jun 14 06:51 |
| oiaohm | From what I can see debian 9 is going to be 4.9.x kernel. | Jun 14 06:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Then even if the driver is present, Debian probably does something stupid like not include the firmware for it. | Jun 14 06:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Happens. | Jun 14 06:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Since there is no ethernet port on this laptop, it kind of has to work out of the box, or I could include the deb package for the firmware on another stick. | Jun 14 06:53 |
| DaaemonFC | Still a hassle that they shouldn't put you through. | Jun 14 06:54 |
| oiaohm | There are debian installers with all firmware. | Jun 14 06:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1503.html | Jun 14 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [ http://ur1.ca/qzxv9 ] | Jun 14 06:55 | |
| DaaemonFC | That's why I'm always puzzled when I find out some huge organization runs Debian. I'm like "Uh why?". There's nobody to get a support contract from as far as I know, and then you run into shit like no firmware included. | Jun 14 06:55 |
| MinceR | it probably still sucks less than ubuntu or ratcrap's distros | Jun 14 06:55 |
| DaaemonFC | I'd be biased towards CentOS or a similar distribution for LTS. | Jun 14 06:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ | Jun 14 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cdimage.debian.org | Index of /cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware [ http://ur1.ca/qzxvd ] | Jun 14 06:56 | |
| MinceR | still, if someone wants to run lendows (and not windows), they might as well go for ratcrap's stuff | Jun 14 06:56 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: HP and others sell support contracts for Debian. | Jun 14 06:56 |
| MinceR | that way they'll get poettering's newest stupid ideas sooner | Jun 14 06:56 |
| MinceR | especially on fedora | Jun 14 06:56 |
| DaaemonFC | CentOS is basically Really Crufty Fedora with less packages. | Jun 14 06:56 |
| DaaemonFC | So I don't see the point, as a home desktop at least. | Jun 14 06:57 |
| MinceR | they can get their systems broken even faster! | Jun 14 06:57 |
| DaaemonFC | That's not what it's for though. | Jun 14 06:57 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I attempted to use CentOS one time to see how long I could stand it. | Jun 14 06:57 |
| MinceR | apparently already 2 companies provide enterprise support for devuan | Jun 14 06:58 |
| MinceR | might as well switch :> | Jun 14 06:58 |
| DaaemonFC | There was nothing particularly wrong with it, but the libs and stuff just got so far behind upstream that eventually you couldn't build new software yourself. | Jun 14 06:58 |
| MinceR | s/broken/more broken/ | Jun 14 06:59 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: with Debian you have choice of support contracts. https://www.debian.org/consultants/ List of contractable consultants | Jun 14 06:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.debian.org | Debian -- Consultants | Jun 14 06:59 | |
| DaaemonFC | I do like that they dropped x86-32 though. | Jun 14 06:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Ancient crap. | Jun 14 06:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Mostly serves to hobble the performance available to multiarch libs in the x86-64 version. | Jun 14 06:59 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: wine still needs the 32 bit libraries. | Jun 14 07:00 |
| DaaemonFC | If you have a 32-bit distribution, you're targeting old hardware that lacks support for the features available on newer CPUs. | Jun 14 07:00 |
| DaaemonFC | So by dumping it, you can compile your 32-bit multiarch libraries in an ideal manner for running on an x86-64 system. | Jun 14 07:01 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora is most of the way there though. | Jun 14 07:01 |
| oiaohm | To be correct at some point we have to change to x32-abi for 32 bit like stuff. Fixes the 32 bit time problem. | Jun 14 07:01 |
| MinceR | other legacy proprietary applications (games) may also need i386 support | Jun 14 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Some of those legacy old programs better not care about time that much. | Jun 14 07:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 14 07:03 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to be able to virtualize time for them | Jun 14 07:03 |
| MinceR | so at least they won't wrap while you're using them :> | Jun 14 07:03 |
| oiaohm | Its the 2038 problem and the determination to sweep problem under rug. | Jun 14 07:03 |
| DaaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-24-i686-Demotion | Jun 14 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Linux Moves Ahead With Effectively Demoting 32-bit x86 Support - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/qzxwp ] | Jun 14 07:03 | |
| MinceR | funny, fedora used to provide compatibility libraries | Jun 14 07:04 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora Server dropped 32-bit and the other spins don't consider problems in the 32-bit spins to be release blockers. | Jun 14 07:04 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Multiarch is still a priority. | Jun 14 07:04 |
| MinceR | if they considered problems to be release blockers, they wouldn't have released any version newer than 14 :> | Jun 14 07:04 |
| DaaemonFC | After the 32-bit release gets the axe, many 32-bit packages will still remain to enable 32-bit software to run on the x86-64 version of the OS. | Jun 14 07:05 |
| oiaohm | We have until 2038 to get off of anything that depends on 32 bit time. | Jun 14 07:06 |
| oiaohm | So it is most likely a good idea to start kicking old school 32 bit out. | Jun 14 07:06 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 14 07:07 |
| DaaemonFC | The last Intel CPU without x86-64 support came off the line in 2005. | Jun 14 07:07 |
| MinceR | but i doubt this is what will stop me from running unreal tournament when i feel like it :> | Jun 14 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Of course some of the fixs make me go ok right. like instead of going to 64 bit time going to 48 bit time. | Jun 14 07:07 |
| DaaemonFC | With the exception of some Atom models. | Jun 14 07:07 |
| MinceR | why would you want to go to 48 bit time? | Jun 14 07:08 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: I was about to question atom. | Jun 14 07:08 |
| MinceR | it's not a whole multiple of 32 bit | Jun 14 07:08 |
| DaaemonFC | So basically, nothing important in 12 years. | Jun 14 07:08 |
| DaaemonFC | Carrying a 32-bit version is starting to look embarrassing even by Microsoft standards. | Jun 14 07:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 48bit time fits into some filesystems spare space in structures. | Jun 14 07:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: where 64 bit does not. | Jun 14 07:08 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 14 07:09 |
| DaaemonFC | At this point, the limit of 4 GB of RAM alone means that people would have to resort to using Lxde or something. | Jun 14 07:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Open a few tabs in a web browser you're already using swap if you only have 4 GB. | Jun 14 07:09 |
| MinceR | still better than gnome or kde | Jun 14 07:09 |
| DaaemonFC | KDE is not looking so good. | Jun 14 07:10 |
| DaaemonFC | At least GNOME is consistent. | Jun 14 07:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, consistently crap | Jun 14 07:10 |
| DaaemonFC | It's also the only desktop I can use because none of the rest have HiDPI support. | Jun 14 07:10 |
| DaaemonFC | The next release of MATE might support it well enough to use. | Jun 14 07:11 |
| DaaemonFC | The migration to GTK+ 3 is done, so HiDPI could come next. | Jun 14 07:11 |
| DaaemonFC | The memory requirement of MATE built with GTK+ 3 is the same as built with GTK + 2. | Jun 14 07:11 |
| MinceR | until you use something like gimp that uses stuff they've thrown out of gtk3? :> | Jun 14 07:12 |
| DaaemonFC | They broke all of the GTK+ 2 themes, but it had to be done. There never will be support for HiDPI in GTK+ 3 and no upstream is maintaining it. | Jun 14 07:12 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, You have both versions of the toolkit on your system. | Jun 14 07:12 |
| DaaemonFC | At least until Gimp support GTK+ 3. | Jun 14 07:12 |
| DaaemonFC | Or does it already? | Jun 14 07:12 |
| DaaemonFC | Anyway, with GTK+ 2 apps, they're nearly unusable on my computer. | Jun 14 07:13 |
| DaaemonFC | The buttons and everything are way too small. | Jun 14 07:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WrX2XBC.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/WrX2XBC ) | Jun 14 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Cat: Why is this not on the floor yet? | Jun 14 07:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat: Why is this not on the floor yet? - GIF on Imgur | Jun 14 07:13 | |
| DaaemonFC | https://www.gimp.org/news/2017/02/02/gimp-2-10-blockers/ | Jun 14 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gimp.org | GIMP 2.10 blockers and the road to 3.0 - GIMP [ http://ur1.ca/qzxxy ] | Jun 14 07:13 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, They're working on it. | Jun 14 07:13 |
| MinceR | ah, so it will never happen | Jun 14 07:14 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the gnome munchkins want to replace gimp with | Jun 14 07:14 |
| MinceR | pinta? | Jun 14 07:14 |
| DaaemonFC | Mono on Linux seems to be dead. | Jun 14 07:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Banshee hasn't had any activity in 2 years. | Jun 14 07:15 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: worse memory usage to other options really did not help. | Jun 14 07:15 |
| MinceR | maybe ratcrap will revive it for their overlords in redmond | Jun 14 07:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: unlikely Redhat is Java. | Jun 14 07:16 |
| MinceR | was | Jun 14 07:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no Is. | Jun 14 07:16 |
| MinceR | then they became a microsoft vassal | Jun 14 07:16 |
| MinceR | https://www.redhat.com/en/microsoft | Jun 14 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Microsoft | Jun 14 07:16 | |
| MinceR | and iirc they already started trying to destroy gnu/linux before that announcement | Jun 14 07:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no Microsoft for that had to agree to provide some tools under JAVA | Jun 14 07:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat has to deal with the hosting providers. Microsoft has to deal with Redhat. | Jun 14 07:18 |
| DaaemonFC | If the fact that systemd took over the whole world and didn't run on BSD was the only good thing about it, I'd probably still be happy on some level. | Jun 14 07:19 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ratcrap has already started sacrificing their customers and their business for scraps from microsoft | Jun 14 07:20 |
| DaaemonFC | The BSD folks not only are working for Microsoft and Apple for free, they brag about it when the companies run off with some of their software, make it proprietary, and abuse people with it. | Jun 14 07:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/jboss-middleware/application-platform | Jun 14 07:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat JBoss Enterprise Application Platform [ http://ur1.ca/qzxyp ] | Jun 14 07:20 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you not noticed that everyone who becomes a vassal to m$ eventually gets killed and discarded? | Jun 14 07:21 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: where is novell now? | Jun 14 07:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat has been dealing with Microsoft since 1998 | Jun 14 07:21 |
| MinceR | not in the way they are now | Jun 14 07:21 |
| oiaohm | exactly like they are now. | Jun 14 07:21 |
| MinceR | i don't remember cancerd being around in 1998 | Jun 14 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Its how redhat got themselves into paperwork going out to parnters. | Jun 14 07:22 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, At some point, Microsoft should probably look to buy a Linux company. | Jun 14 07:22 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: indeed | Jun 14 07:22 |
| DaaemonFC | Canonical would be cheaper. | Jun 14 07:22 |
| MinceR | they've already bought some android application developers to kill them off | Jun 14 07:22 |
| MinceR | they could buy both ratcrap and canonical | Jun 14 07:22 |
| MinceR | and then claim they control most of "linux" | Jun 14 07:22 |
| oiaohm | 1998 redhat custom management tools for sysvinit that would nuke you manual settings. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, Red Hat is on the S&P 500, but only 0.076% by weight. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: that did not kill non-redhat distros | Jun 14 07:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: redhat did not kill sysvinit on non redhat distributions. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Microsoft could buy the entire company cheaply and 90% of enterprise Linux installs are RHEL. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit being sysvinit killed it. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: wrong | Jun 14 07:23 |
| oiaohm | I am right. | Jun 14 07:23 |
| MinceR | keep telling yourself that | Jun 14 07:23 |
| oiaohm | Every distrobution was having problems with fork processes becoming non managed. | Jun 14 07:24 |
| MinceR | every lendows distribution has many problems you ignore | Jun 14 07:24 |
| oiaohm | Very few init systems attempted to address that problem. | Jun 14 07:24 |
| MinceR | they can't boot reliably, they can't shutdown reliably, they can't launch services reliably | Jun 14 07:24 |
| oiaohm | upstart was attempted by most before going systemd. | Jun 14 07:24 |
| oiaohm | upstart was less reliable than systemd. | Jun 14 07:24 |
| MinceR | cancerd is the only thing that can make upstart look good | Jun 14 07:24 |
| MinceR | with its horrid signal and ptrace abuse | Jun 14 07:25 |
| oiaohm | No systemd has less issues with upset services than upstart. | Jun 14 07:25 |
| oiaohm | Also does not have the fork break away problem. | Jun 14 07:25 |
| MinceR | yay, it does not have some rarely occurring problems preferred by oiaohm | Jun 14 07:25 |
| oiaohm | If a few hunderd reports a year to debian bugzilla is rare. | Jun 14 07:26 |
| MinceR | it just trashes users' data, makes servers and embedded system take ages to boot (if they manage to boot at all), but who cares about that? | Jun 14 07:26 |
| oiaohm | So the fork problem was not exaclty rare. | Jun 14 07:26 |
| DaaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6h02sk/fedora_26_beta_released/ | Jun 14 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Fedora 26 Beta released : linux | Jun 14 07:26 | |
| MinceR | and relies on a kernel feature that will probably never be completed | Jun 14 07:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora should look into changing the compiler to clang for some packages. | Jun 14 07:26 |
| MinceR | as in, will probably never work | Jun 14 07:27 |
| MinceR | but ooh, shiny! | Jun 14 07:27 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, There was a Lindows. | Jun 14 07:27 |
| oiaohm | cgroupv2 and newer namespaces do work now. | Jun 14 07:27 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: i know | Jun 14 07:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Microsoft paid them to change their name to avoid going to court. | Jun 14 07:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so that never work is wrong. | Jun 14 07:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what happen when someone attempt to properly fix a problem. | Jun 14 07:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: instead of ingoring it. | Jun 14 07:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: are you implying that fixing a problem with sysvinit requires replacing the whole userland? | Jun 14 07:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the problems do has questions along that way. Like LSB heads in sysvinit scripts not matching to sysvinit script contents so leading to tools giving wrong information to users. | Jun 14 07:29 |
| DaaemonFC | Right, but some of what systemd is doing is important in embedded. | Jun 14 07:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the thing systemd is do not releated to init is about other oddness. Like why does each X11 desktop envornment run it own incompadible session management. | Jun 14 07:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Fast boot, fast recovery if a service errors out. | Jun 14 07:30 |
| DaaemonFC | That's one reason why car makers are going with Linux for the entertainment system. | Jun 14 07:31 |
| DaaemonFC | Apple's stuff is not very good and waiting more than a few seconds for the system to come up starts getting awkward. | Jun 14 07:31 |
| MinceR | yes, it's important to keep embedded systems from functioning | Jun 14 07:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd allows services to have their own watchdog without using a complete system one. That is a improvement. | Jun 14 07:32 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: adding a few extra random features won't save the fundamentals from being completely wrong | Jun 14 07:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: fundamentals of sysvinit are wrong. | Jun 14 07:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it swapping wrong with wrong. | Jun 14 07:33 |
| MinceR | and yeah, cancerd must also take over all the DEs | Jun 14 07:33 |
| MinceR | again, the old, tired lie about cancerd being only an init system | Jun 14 07:33 |
| oiaohm | The fundanmentals of every DE running there own incompadible sesssion management. | Jun 14 07:33 |
| MinceR | anyway, i'm tired of you wasting my time advertising this piece of malware | Jun 14 07:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, how dare different software be different | Jun 14 07:34 |
| oiaohm | so making it impossible to switch between DE without logging out. | Jun 14 07:34 |
| MinceR | poettering's big dream: build all the software in the world from a single repository | Jun 14 07:34 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Jun 14 07:34 |
| oiaohm | pulseaudio give you a hint. | Jun 14 07:34 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/qqdla830gsex.jpg | Jun 14 07:35 |
| oiaohm | before pulseaudio you had artsd, esound.... All in a conflitting area with each other. | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaaemonFC | I was reading a story about Debian 8 being released from a couple years ago... | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaaemonFC | "Computers with broken EFI implementations should now be handled much more gracefully. Debian Jessie should even boot and install on Intel-based Macs[...]". | Jun 14 07:35 |
| DaaemonFC | Redundant statement is redundant. | Jun 14 07:35 |
| oiaohm | Mac OS hardware efi is the worse but there are others that are quite up there. | Jun 14 07:36 |
| MinceR | "mac os hardware" | Jun 14 07:37 |
| MinceR | wtf | Jun 14 07:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the apple EFI firmware comes out the Mac OS source repositary. | Jun 14 07:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: by the way I have had shudown -h segfault under sysvinit | Jun 14 07:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if systemd does not have dbus it fall back to the same old sysvinit method to send shutdown. | Jun 14 07:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with the same old bug killing it dead. | Jun 14 07:39 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: can you at least take my nick out of your cancerd spam? | Jun 14 07:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no | Jun 14 07:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as you are fairly much the only one bring up this point of view. | Jun 14 07:39 |
| MinceR | then i'll just ignore you | Jun 14 07:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember I did not open this topic. | Jun 14 07:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and it that you bring up the same error over and over again. I use to skip using you name. | Jun 14 07:41 |
| MinceR | you bring up the same bullshit over and over | Jun 14 07:41 |
| MinceR | talking to you is like trying to argue with a spambot | Jun 14 07:42 |
| MinceR | apparently the counterargument to systemd forcibly replacing a huge number of services that actually worked correctly and reliably with half-baked unworkable crap is "hurpa durp sysvinit this, sysvinit that" | Jun 14 07:44 |
| oiaohm | Problem is even when I back it with documentation you don't listen. | Jun 14 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Things have happened for particular reasons. | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | you back it up with the same bullshit over and over | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure they had reasons | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | just not the reasons they've told you, which you've believed uncritically | Jun 14 07:45 |
| oiaohm | And you don't have anything in most cases backing up your statements. | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | actually i do | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | you just ignore it | Jun 14 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Like you did not consider why distriubtions stated migrating to upstart before systemd. | Jun 14 07:45 |
| MinceR | just like the fundamentalists ignore everything that conflicts with their dogma | Jun 14 07:46 |
| oiaohm | This means they were looking for something. | Jun 14 07:46 |
| MinceR | you also seem to have trouble understanding that neither you, nor poettering, nor anyone at ratcrap or m$ has the right to dictate what users are allowed to run on computers they own | Jun 14 07:46 |
| MinceR | yes, they were looking for shiny broken crap | Jun 14 07:46 |
| MinceR | and yet, you're ignoring that upstart _only_ replaced init and rc | Jun 14 07:47 |
| oiaohm | No they were looking for something to fix broken rap. | Jun 14 07:47 |
| oiaohm | crap | Jun 14 07:47 |
| oiaohm | So they were weight between 1 bit of broken crap against another bit of broken crap. | Jun 14 07:47 |
| MinceR | and cancerd replaces init, rc, udev, [x]inetd, crond, atd, syslogd | Jun 14 07:47 |
| MinceR | and more | Jun 14 07:47 |
| MinceR | it also breaks screen, tmux, dtach by default | Jun 14 07:47 |
| MinceR | but hey, sysvinit had some bugs! | Jun 14 07:48 |
| MinceR | "i broke your server into tiny pieces with a sledgehammer because one of the pieces of software on it had some bugs in it. i hope you're grateful!" | Jun 14 07:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: modification used in business to consolekit also killed screen tmux and dtech 3 years before systemd existed. | Jun 14 07:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why did that old modification exist. | Jun 14 07:49 |
| MinceR | >consolekit | Jun 14 07:50 |
| MinceR | another shitty piece of poetteringware | Jun 14 07:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: try again. | Jun 14 07:51 |
| MinceR | it obviously existed because whoever hacked it up had no clue of what unix was or how it was supposed to work | Jun 14 07:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you try again | Jun 14 07:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the modifitation I am talk is taken from somewhere older. | Jun 14 07:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: being BSD | Jun 14 07:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why was that modification done. | Jun 14 07:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your cult has managed to deploy broken shitty software that wasn't even half complete, or designed at all, onto thousands of production systems, by force | Jun 14 07:51 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so don't come to me about people trying something again, or things having bugs | Jun 14 07:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the modification was done due to servers with multi users logging in and out running out ram. | Jun 14 07:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: fucking fix your shitty software before forcing it on people. | Jun 14 07:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't give a fuck about your excuses | Jun 14 07:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you want to run windows, fucking run windows | Jun 14 07:52 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not excuse. | Jun 14 07:52 |
| MinceR | yes it is | Jun 14 07:52 |
| MinceR | all you have is bullshit excuses for the unexcusable | Jun 14 07:53 |
| oiaohm | Its the problem with multi users using screen tmux and dtach. | Jun 14 07:53 |
| oiaohm | Human forget so they fill the system up with processes until it cannot take any more. | Jun 14 07:53 |
| MinceR | so you break the system so humans can't use it | Jun 14 07:53 |
| MinceR | problem solved! | Jun 14 07:53 |
| MinceR | this is your shittiest excuse so far | Jun 14 07:54 |
| oiaohm | No logind include a flag to allow when users intentionally want a processes to stick around. | Jun 14 07:54 |
| MinceR | and what was it set to by default? | Jun 14 07:54 |
| oiaohm | the old consolekit and bsd solution did not have on off switch for users. | Jun 14 07:54 |
| MinceR | "solution" | Jun 14 07:54 |
| oiaohm | So admin turned it on users had to live with it. | Jun 14 07:54 |
| MinceR | "i broke your systems, but it's ok because i call it a 'solution'" | Jun 14 07:54 |
| MinceR | fucking stinking pile of bullshit | Jun 14 07:55 |
| oiaohm | Not broke system. | Jun 14 07:55 |
| oiaohm | That changed behavour of system. | Jun 14 07:55 |
| oiaohm | Question is what behavour is the safer. | Jun 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | yeah, it isn't broken, it's just "protected" from users doing anything productive with it | Jun 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | no, question is who asked for this shit | Jun 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | and who decides what the use case for a server is | Jun 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | and who decides what the use case for my server is | Jun 14 07:56 |
| oiaohm | do all users use dtach and the like and expect processes to remain running after they log out. | Jun 14 07:56 |
| MinceR | hint: it isn't you, or poettering, or anyone at m$ or ratcrap | Jun 14 07:56 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what dtach is for | Jun 14 07:56 |
| oiaohm | Majority of users when serveyed think log out is end everything. | Jun 14 07:56 |
| MinceR | then majority of users do not belong on a unix system | Jun 14 07:56 |
| MinceR | your current excuse for killing unix is users being too stupid to learn it | Jun 14 07:56 |
| MinceR | take them to winblows or macos, then | Jun 14 07:57 |
| MinceR | or put them in a straitjacket and have them taken care of | Jun 14 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Unix servers is where terminated eveyrthing on log out starts without setting a flag. | Jun 14 07:57 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Gave you that one in the past. | Jun 14 07:57 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 07:57 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 14 07:57 |
| oiaohm | I gave you the solaris and aix one and you answer bull to it. | Jun 14 07:58 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 14 07:58 |
| oiaohm | So should I expect bull answer againt | Jun 14 07:58 |
| MinceR | you shouldn't type so much bullshit here, then | Jun 14 07:58 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 14 07:58 |
| oiaohm | I have cited you wrong more often than not. | Jun 14 07:59 |
| MinceR | no, you have lied | Jun 14 07:59 |
| MinceR | like when you pretend that all unix is solaris | Jun 14 07:59 |
| MinceR | news flash: at&t is not sun, or oracle | Jun 14 07:59 |
| oiaohm | at&t was referenced in the solaris cite. | Jun 14 08:00 |
| oiaohm | There have been a set of work around to parituclar problems for a long time. | Jun 14 08:00 |
| MinceR | i wonder what the workaround will be for systemd preventing certain services from working at all | Jun 14 08:00 |
| oiaohm | Then there comes a quesiton if something is a repeating problem should the default be the other way. | Jun 14 08:00 |
| MinceR | no, the answer is not to have poettering decide and enforce new defaults everywhere | Jun 14 08:01 |
| MinceR | if ratcrap's distros were as great as you keep implying they were, everyone would be using them without being forced to | Jun 14 08:01 |
| oiaohm | I know of no service that cannot be got working under systemd | Jun 14 08:02 |
| MinceR | i already listed a couple | Jun 14 08:02 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what ones. | Jun 14 08:02 |
| DaaemonFC | https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-using-git/ | Jun 14 08:02 |
| MinceR | most importantly, syslogd | Jun 14 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Microsoft Is Now Using Linus Torvalds’ Open Source Tool For Windows Development | Jun 14 08:02 | |
| DaaemonFC | They had to patch it because of performance problems with NTFS. | Jun 14 08:02 |
| oiaohm | syslogd is using in embedded systems with systemd. | Jun 14 08:02 |
| oiaohm | with journald removed. | Jun 14 08:02 |
| oiaohm | So that bull | Jun 14 08:02 |
| MinceR | that's funny, your cult mates forgot to mention that option before | Jun 14 08:03 |
| MinceR | poettering claimed systemd can't work without journald | Jun 14 08:03 |
| MinceR | sounds an awful lot like m$ claiming winblows can't work without IE | Jun 14 08:03 |
| oiaohm | Version 100 could not version 110 could. | Jun 14 08:03 |
| oiaohm | So it when poettering made claim. | Jun 14 08:03 |
| MinceR | actually irrelevant, as he could have fixed his shitty software at any point instead of bullshitting users | Jun 14 08:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so since version 110 system journald has been removeable if you built systemd itself. | Jun 14 08:04 |
| MinceR | but you know what the funny thing is? | Jun 14 08:04 |
| MinceR | your beloved ratcrap released 3 allegedly "stable" versions of fedora with pre-110 systemd versions | Jun 14 08:04 |
| MinceR | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora | Jun 14 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora ) | Jun 14 08:04 | |
| oiaohm | Fedora is a development OS | Jun 14 08:05 |
| MinceR | it has allegedly "stable" "release"s | Jun 14 08:05 |
| oiaohm | This is important nothing requires stable status to be in fedora. | Jun 14 08:05 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 14 08:05 |
| razielle_tzu | hi | Jun 14 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: morning | Jun 14 08:06 |
| MinceR | but i guess micro$oft's asshole practices are a-ok if they're done through ratcrap, or canonical, or some other patsy | Jun 14 08:06 |
| razielle_tzu | morning sebsebseb | Jun 14 08:06 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jun 14 08:06 |
| MinceR | the problem is apparently not that users get fucked and their servers are broken, but that they're done by someone called microsoft | Jun 14 08:07 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: microsoft | Jun 14 08:07 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Apple what a lovely fruit | Jun 14 08:07 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: better when processed into juice or pie | Jun 14 08:07 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah raw apple sucks | Jun 14 08:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Redhat if you want a stable release Redhat wants you to pay for RHEL. If you want to be a tester they give you Fedora that is the way it always has been. | Jun 14 08:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: cheap iphones or windows phone on ebay looked at that a bit yesterday as well | Jun 14 08:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and apparently now ratcrap also gets to decide what debian does. | Jun 14 08:08 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: probably still too expensive, considering what they can do | Jun 14 08:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: spy on you | Jun 14 08:09 |
| MinceR | you can have google spy on you for less | Jun 14 08:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and is that even new thinking redhat was maintaining consolekit and udev before systemd. | Jun 14 08:09 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR yes I dont like eating apples much | Jun 14 08:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: at least consolekit and udev didn't try to prevent you from running other software before cancerd came around | Jun 14 08:09 |
| MinceR | well, except for consolekit apparently breaking screen, tmux and dtach -- though i never noticed this happen on my systems | Jun 14 08:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you did have gnome and kde fail due to not having right versions of consolekit. | Jun 14 08:10 |
| MinceR | my debian7 server runs consolekit and i haven't seen my screens or tmuxes get killed on logout | Jun 14 08:10 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR but I dont like apple juice much either, i believe my liter of orange juiuce is still waiting to go | Jun 14 08:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, i had gnome and kde fail because they were unfixable piles of shit | Jun 14 08:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: consolekit default is not to terminate on logoutl. | Jun 14 08:10 |
| MinceR | see, sane defaults | Jun 14 08:11 |
| MinceR | was that so difficult? | Jun 14 08:11 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: MinceR hmm apple pie with custard can be nice though | Jun 14 08:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sane default where you have multi users eating up all of a servers resoruces? | Jun 14 08:11 |
| razielle_tzu | nah, ice cream | Jun 14 08:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the server resources exist for the users to use | Jun 14 08:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: on processes users has forgot to kill off | Jun 14 08:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if users use those resources incorrectly, the solution is not to prevent users from working on the server at all | Jun 14 08:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yes, users are responsible for their own processes | Jun 14 08:12 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple the muti billion dollar tech company the richest in the world and your overall favourite! | Jun 14 08:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what is it with you cancerd people pretending that everyone is running multiseat desktops for public campus use? | Jun 14 08:12 |
| razielle_tzu | lol | Jun 14 08:12 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yep or that | Jun 14 08:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: screen tmux and detach still work with logind as long as users tell it that they wish processed to remian. | Jun 14 08:12 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: lol @ whom ? | Jun 14 08:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that modificaiton for logind was done before systemd existed. | Jun 14 08:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: users should not need to tell that the former unix system cancerd hijacked should in fact keep functioning as a unix system | Jun 14 08:13 |
| razielle_tzu | sebsebseb: that comment about apple being MinceR's fave | Jun 14 08:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no one spoke up in the planning stages. | Jun 14 08:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: logind is part of systemd | Jun 14 08:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind started as a freedesktop project in it own right. | Jun 14 08:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: nobody had this half-baked crap forced on them in the planning stages | Jun 14 08:13 |
| MinceR | if it can be called "planning" at all | Jun 14 08:13 |
| MinceR | considering that the "design" is incredibly shit | Jun 14 08:13 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: yes it is and MinceR just lies to us really with his cr.... alternative name for it :d | Jun 14 08:14 |
| MinceR | it's non-modular, for one thing | Jun 14 08:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Apple Apple Apple and oh yeah Microsoft as well! | Jun 14 08:16 |
| razielle_tzu | sebsebseb: stop disparaging MinceR like this | Jun 14 08:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: logind was designed on the idea more than 1 party would implement it. Also logind was design to get rid of a huge stack of work around hacks https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/multiseat/ | Jun 14 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | multiseat [ http://ur1.ca/qzy68 ] | Jun 14 08:17 | |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: banta? | Jun 14 08:17 |
| razielle_tzu | doesn't come across that way sometimes | Jun 14 08:18 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: or trolling him a bit for fun and out of boredom :d | Jun 14 08:19 |
| razielle_tzu | find a different way to alleviate boredom? | Jun 14 08:19 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I like you enough really | Jun 14 08:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the interest part is how much of systemd is a collection of parts that should have competitors that no competitor has appeared. | Jun 14 08:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Very sad way to close another week....' | Jun 14 08:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Maybe table a bill to rehire firefighters....' | Jun 14 09:20 | |
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| Hi | hi | Jun 14 10:12 |
| Hi | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 10:13 |
| ---Hi is now known as Guest42781 | Jun 14 10:13 | |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | hi | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | yes tell me | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | where? | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | and why? | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | techrights.org/category/news-roundup/page/18/ | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | Lenovo Yoga Book 2-in-1 PC With Chrome OS Coming In 2017 | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | on this text | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | pleas | Jun 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | its giving negative impact for our SEO | Jun 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | f* off | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | ooohhhhh really | Jun 14 10:15 |
| razielle_tzu | LOl | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | go back to your SEO-ville | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | spammer | Jun 14 10:15 |
| Guest42781 | bloody spammers you guys are | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | you are | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | wasting people's time 'optimising' | Jun 14 10:15 |
| Guest42781 | losers | Jun 14 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Go back to your "SEO" duties | Jun 14 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day you will get a real job | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | dude I am not a seo guy | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | I am the person who created the website | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | and your 1 link is hurting my efforts | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | one article is throwing off your SEO? | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | yes... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | then your SEO is shit | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | that's why I am requesting you | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | so you try to tame the whole web | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | may be... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | to suit your SEO | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | no.... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | I get lots of spammer requests like that from SEO "professionals" | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | many requests are even automated | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | i am not automated man | Jun 14 10:18 |
| razielle_tzu | if one article throws off your SEO it's bad SEO | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | may be I am saying you and requesting you to remove it | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | it will not cost you anything | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | but its costing me | Jun 14 10:18 |
| schestowitz | I remember about 10 years ago when Sainsbury's asked people to request PERMISSION to just LINK to their site | Jun 14 10:18 |
| razielle_tzu | ikr | Jun 14 10:18 |
| schestowitz | these people don't get the Internet | Jun 14 10:19 |
| schestowitz | probably still don't | Jun 14 10:19 |
| razielle_tzu | they really don't | Jun 14 10:19 |
| Guest42781 | please will you remove it or not...it will be of great help to me | Jun 14 10:19 |
| Guest42781 | ?? | Jun 14 10:20 |
| razielle_tzu | probably not, find another way to fix your bad SEO | Jun 14 10:20 |
| Guest42781 | ok.....may be you will always be a looser only like since last 16 years with your shitty website when you can't succeed you are sucking others efforts...bloody looser | Jun 14 10:21 |
| oiaohm | https://janefriedman.com/the-fair-use-doctrine/ | Jun 14 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janefriedman.com | Is It Fair Use? 7 Questions to Ask Before Using Copyrighted Material | Jun 14 10:22 | |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 10:22 |
| schestowitz | I gave you traffic | Jun 14 10:23 |
| Guest42781 | i think you didn't know anything apart from LOL | Jun 14 10:23 |
| Guest42781 | I don't need you bloody traffic | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | If some cyber-jacking led to the link being to strong pr0n, I would remove it | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | but "SEO" is a poor reason | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | you are trying to shape the whole Web (around you) to suit your goals | Jun 14 10:24 |
| razielle_tzu | SEO is one of the worst reasons to request a takedown that GIVES traffic | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | also a waste of time | Jun 14 10:24 |
| Guest42781 | thanks for the advice | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | you would be spending your time better writing MORE articles | Jun 14 10:24 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah because it won't be the link that's causing the issues | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | not obsessing over something you wrote a year ago | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | sorry for saying the f* word | Jun 14 10:24 |
| razielle_tzu | poor design, meta-spam | Jun 14 10:25 |
| razielle_tzu | these are things that will be effecting it | Jun 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I mistook you for some agent that's doing "SEO" on behalf of something | Jun 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | lots of those exist out there and I get spammed by them all the time | Jun 14 10:25 |
| Guest42781 | hhhhhhhmmmmm | Jun 14 10:25 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 10:25 |
| oiaohm | Guest42781: https://www.google.com/webmasters/#?modal_active=none google does provide this tool. That does give you information on how it going over your sites and possible issues. | Jun 14 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Webmasters – Support, Learn, Connect & Search Console – Google [ http://ur1.ca/qwgzw ] | Jun 14 10:26 | |
| oiaohm | There is the nofollow that can be used on links in some cases to prevent some issues. | Jun 14 10:27 |
| Guest42781 | ok | Jun 14 10:28 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 10:28 |
| razielle_tzu | ooo the site uses the WP plugin yoast for SEO | Jun 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of this subject please? | Jun 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | So much effort over a stupid "seo" thing for some very old article | Jun 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Guest42781: you could write a new article in this whole time chatting in IRC about SEO | Jun 14 10:30 |
| Guest42781 | Think that only | Jun 14 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Some people obsess over statistics and analytics (spying) when they could instead produce something new | Jun 14 10:30 |
| schestowitz | I want to write some articles now... | Jun 14 10:30 |
| Guest42781 | where it will be published :P | Jun 14 10:31 |
| razielle_tzu | what's with the random [/one_half], [one_half_last] stuff on random pages? | Jun 14 10:32 |
| razielle_tzu | seems kinda unprofessional | Jun 14 10:32 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: ok what. | Jun 14 10:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.monsterinsights.com/welcome-to-monsterinsights/ yoast is no more monsterinsights is the new name. | Jun 14 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to MonsterInsights - New Home of Google Analytics for WordPress | Jun 14 10:33 | |
| razielle_tzu | on Guest42781's site, some pages have random bits of code showing, like what i asked about being on their contact page | Jun 14 10:33 |
| razielle_tzu | also oiaohm Yoast is still what some articles are using for the SEO stuff | Jun 14 10:33 |
| razielle_tzu | in fact i think the whole site is still using it | Jun 14 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: this London tower block news you seen it ? | Jun 14 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | and you schestowitz | Jun 14 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | it would be bigger news if "tourrists" | Jun 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | As if death only matter if there's some justification for wars abroad | Jun 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | never mind car accidents, fires, cancer etc. | Jun 14 10:35 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: that is one of the common things I find. Sites SEO seams to be going badly and it got some out of date SEO tool on it. | Jun 14 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well its taken over bbc one | Jun 14 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: big story there | Jun 14 10:35 |
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| razielle_tzu | oiaohm: ikr, it's like they WANT someone else to blame instead of the guys that are supposed to keep everything up to date and working right | Jun 14 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874904295375810560 | Jun 14 10:37 |
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| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: I tell everyone starting a website to do a proper copyright introduction course prevents a lot of these stupid claims problems understand why people are legally allowed to-do to your work. | Jun 14 10:38 |
| razielle_tzu | it's a good idea tbf | Jun 14 10:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux distro UBOS beta 11 released with support for | Jun 14 10:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft is really scared of #Chromebooks in businesses | Jun 14 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and schools https://t.co/KnSzvTeUU4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 10:44 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: how difficult could it possibly be to understand for you cancerd cultists that for most users multiseat is a perfectly irrelevant feature? | Jun 14 11:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL what does multi seat features prevent from happening in a security context??? | Jun 14 11:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course those who want to stick in the past never ask that question. | Jun 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: nothing relevant | Jun 14 11:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that not an answer basically you don't have a clue | Jun 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a. server. is. not. a. multiseat. desktop. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no there is a place on the server for multiseat features. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, there is no place on the server for multiseat features | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how do you control device access | Jun 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: especially if they are an excuse for breaking server behavior. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you are just being clueless. | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: by locking up the server room, and by not giving untrustworthy people user accounts on the server, for example | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you are being clueless | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: or you're just trolling | Jun 14 11:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why did consolekit have per service settings | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | apparently not only poettering is perfectly clueless about what goes on in production environments | Jun 14 11:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why the solution before consolekit have it. | Jun 14 11:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you are missing something | Jun 14 11:13 |
| MinceR | yeah, i miss all the things poettering destroyed or ruined | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what is the main objective of session seperation. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this still applies to the same point. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you have failed to answer one. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality you never understood the basic objective. So you are straight up unable to make a valid arguement. | Jun 14 11:17 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go back to windows | Jun 14 11:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows lacks this feature. | Jun 14 11:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so going back windows is this you admitting you don't have a clue? | Jun 14 11:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874928685635301376 | Jun 14 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Financial News https://t.co/pUoYHXxDZw | Jun 14 11:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Jun 14 11:20 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: then go pay your beloved microsoft to implement it | Jun 14 11:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Lets say you want to use opencl in a service to speed up processing. How are you going to do that safely without proper session separation framework. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multi-seat is one part of a bigger set of features that is coming quite useful on servers. | Jun 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | good thing being able to boot, shutdown, launch services and log weren't at all useful on servers | Jun 14 11:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft thinks it a good idea to put all services in session 0 sharing resources kind turns out bad when something breaks | Jun 14 11:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, don't share resources | Jun 14 11:22 |
| MinceR | run every application on its own machine | Jun 14 11:23 |
| MinceR | like they do on windows | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that is a minor improvement over using session1 with the primary logged in user. | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: correct multi seat with correct device assement is something critically missing from windows. | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multiseat is not just about more keyboards, mice and screens. Its about sessions. | Jun 14 11:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so what you are saying is that I should do stuff like windows where it does not have proper sessions. | Jun 14 11:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny systemd in this area is really not windows. | Jun 14 11:25 |
| MinceR | it's also not a server OS | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | this kind of session split first appears on AIX | Jun 14 11:26 |
| MinceR | funny, i have yet to hear about multiseat desktops running AIX | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | So claiming it not a server feature is flawed. | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | AIX calls it mulit session | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Different name same feature | Jun 14 11:26 |
| MinceR | well, at least the features you cancerd cultists are throwing out that people have used on servers for ages are not server features after all | Jun 14 11:27 |
| MinceR | it's great that you guys cleared that up | Jun 14 11:27 |
| oiaohm | multi session is part of sevice isoluation under AIX | Jun 14 11:27 |
| oiaohm | So when it does not have seat in the name it truly a server feature. | Jun 14 11:28 |
| *MinceR deletes the webserver and the system logs and plugs in 3 monitors, keyboards and mice | Jun 14 11:28 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL idiot AIX box did not have that feature. | Jun 14 11:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is you seeing the seat and not seeing how it fits anywhere else. | Jun 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, deterministic booting doesn't fit in the server room | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | who the hell wants their servers to boot reliably? | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | screw that, we'll just send Pajeet in to sit down in the data center and figure out on the console why the damn thing won't boot this time | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | or just power cycle it until it comes up | Jun 14 11:31 |
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| MinceR | also, have you retroactively removed the su binary from all AIX systems yet? | Jun 14 11:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: deterministic booting had been having trouble for a while. Particularly on 32 cores and larger with system utilisation on boot. | Jun 14 11:32 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to use machinectl shell, dummy | Jun 14 11:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, it was trouble for those who insisted on doing parallel boot where it does not make sense | Jun 14 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Problem is most of the server rooms are not single core systems any more but multicores. So boot has had to evolve to do parallel boot well. | Jun 14 11:34 |
| oiaohm | This is one of the features alternatives to systemd need to consider. | Jun 14 11:35 |
| MinceR | no, you don't have to start services on parallel just because your system happens to have multiple cores | Jun 14 11:35 |
| oiaohm | machinectl was not design to replace su. It was designed for when using docker like instances. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| MinceR | guess what, non-parallel boot has worked on multicore systems just fine | Jun 14 11:36 |
| MinceR | ooh, it was not designed to replace su! have you told poettering about that? he doesn't seem to be aware of it. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machinectl.html read the first line. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | machinectl | Jun 14 11:36 | |
| MinceR | (though "design" is a bit of a strong word for this haphazard mess you keep advertising here) | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | machinectl may be used to introspect and control the state of the systemd(1) virtual machine and container registration manager | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | So it was not designed to replace su | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | that some people have found it can be used in that way is another matter. | Jun 14 11:37 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/825#issuecomment-127917622 | Jun 14 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RFE: machinectl to provide starting new session on local machine · Issue #825 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/nlk19 ] | Jun 14 11:38 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: read that careful. What su and sudo do is not clearly define was disputed before systemd existed. | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | admins somehow managed to use them | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | quite successfully, in fact | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | somehow, they worked reliably without replacing pid1 with a backdoor | Jun 14 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what machineclt was designed to do was nsenter and su in combination in a predictable outcome way. | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | cancerd's behavior is many things. predictable is not one of those things. | Jun 14 11:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: docker reports issues with nsenter and su and sudo before systemd particularly when you have PID namespace. | Jun 14 11:42 |
| MinceR | then don't use docker? | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | nixos containtainers, lxc also showed the same kind of problems. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | So there was a bug there. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| MinceR | then don't use nsenter? | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | So don't use shell inside a container to see what is going on??? | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | That is what you have suggested not using nsenter | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | don't use a container implementation in production if it isn't ready for production use | Jun 14 11:45 |
| oiaohm | because you did not have anything else before machinectl todo it | Jun 14 11:45 |
| oiaohm | This is one of these cases of a item needing a fork. | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | but yeah, this idea is not good because it's not destructive enough | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | you've got to kill off a few gnu/linux distros in an attempt to make your half-baked bullshit work | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | The stuff before was half backed as well. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| MinceR | hell, even if cancerd worked as well as you keep insisting (which it does not), the project would still deserve to die and be forgotten for their attitude, trickery and destructiveness | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | So half-baked so people would not use container because they were not stable enough. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| MinceR | the stuff before didn't destroy our systems | Jun 14 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Oh Apple, oH Apple, what a lovely tech company, or not, but that HUngarian guy thinks so, oh yes Apple Apple | Jun 14 11:47 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: crApple is not a tech company, it's a cult | Jun 14 11:47 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hows down under, has Apple invavded it too much like here as well ? : d | Jun 14 11:47 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Apple not that popular in Australia as it really had to find a shop to get anything. | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no your cool if you have a Iphone or Ipad :d | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | and use it | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | a lot | Jun 14 11:48 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: like its nothing to be 200 kms to the nearest apple repair place. | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | so they are near | Jun 14 11:49 |
| sebsebseb | or not so near ? | Jun 14 11:49 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_iPhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujitsu_iPAD | Jun 14 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linksys iPhone - Wikipedia | Jun 14 11:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fujitsu iPAD - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzz7r ] | Jun 14 11:49 | |
| MinceR | i don't see what's so special about them | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: 2-4 hours drive to just get a apple using person to look at something. | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really any change I think you would have been upset. | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, not all change involves destroying everything in sight | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: its android or apple in the main streame | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also not all change involves building in an NSA backdoor | Jun 14 11:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd did not destroy anything for me. | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: everything else has little or no market share | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: so what? | Jun 14 11:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: android and strange and horible windows tablets are more common than ipad stuff. | Jun 14 11:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows tablets are pure nasty. | Jun 14 11:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Microsoft oh Microsoft | Jun 14 11:51 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: appanratly Windows phone isn't that awful really! | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | it's even more awful | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | especially if you consider that winblows mobile sucked less | Jun 14 11:52 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit eh, unless it supports continumem | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | and they killed that for its sake | Jun 14 11:52 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: wait until they have seen one to many wifi networks. | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | what's m$ "support" worth anyway? | Jun 14 11:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: which windows phone ? | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | if you don't have armed forces on hand to kill them off, they won't care about the problems they've caused for you | Jun 14 11:53 |
| MinceR | they already have your money, and they'll take your money again, and again | Jun 14 11:53 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows 8-10 phones have the same problem. When the table of known wifi networks get filled they start nicely dropping wifi connections at random. | Jun 14 11:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #printing #scanning | Jun 14 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux, Wireless printing, scanning and HPLIP | Tux Machines | Jun 14 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu...' | Jun 14 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux, Wireless printing, scanning and #HPLIP https://t.co/X8a9G5JId5 #hp...' | Jun 14 20:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875077681850728448 | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlackArch Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now Offers over 1,800 Tools | Tux Machines | Jun 14 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 20:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/875078364738060289 | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 21:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iridesce57 favourited 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 14 21:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875081694482751488 | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wall-pluggable #Eero Beacon https://t.co/PxUNokytHD | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #router | Jun 14 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable Eero Beacon | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable...' | Jun 14 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875082291105628160 | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/YpSYTBwPIE | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UBports Launch First Stable Ubuntu Touch OTA Update for Supported Ubuntu Phones | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 14 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875083324632551424 | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systems https://t.co/7T994vmDjQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #ubuntu #canonical | Jun 14 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer systems | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875083688517787652 | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CwDogkcNe6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #france | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #freesw #freeSoftwarePact #NationalAssembly #fr | Jun 14 21:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer...' | Jun 14 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Free software campaign signs up future French MPs...' | Jun 14 21:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @WigginsMichael favourited 'Free software campaign signs up future French MPs...' | Jun 14 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875084686560829440 | Jun 14 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many | Jun 14 21:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma Discover Improvements https://t.co/VQYBld50py | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 14 21:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875085619394949121 | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Init System for GNU/Linux https://t.co/0MLu7jdfLc | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #systemd #init | Jun 14 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma Discover Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature Init System for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Let's hope that Corbyn's Labour will never...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn You have managed to turn some enemies...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn You have managed to turn...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks If Theresa May does not resign and...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks If Theresa May does not...' | Jun 14 21:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c' | Jun 14 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c | Jun 14 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090550399127556 | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vietnam https://t.co/irrGj35DZg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenos #gnu #linux #asia | Jun 14 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung setting the foundation for Tizen growth in Vietnam | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090758289719296 | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 14 21:42 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in...' | Jun 14 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875091767971991558 | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KzNFm8dJrA (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenOS #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875091997031362560 | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vista10 vs. #Linux #OpenGL Performance On #Kabylake - | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summer 2017 https://t.co/iRNaH3hIOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 vs. Linux OpenGL Performance On Kabylake - Summer 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I...' | Jun 14 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in...' | Jun 14 21:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 14 21:48 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Awesome mother. Not many mothers are both...' | Jun 14 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Awesome mother. Not many mothers...' | Jun 14 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Trump will be throwing no party......' | Jun 14 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Trump will be throwing ...' | Jun 14 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Credico2016 @wikileaks @WBAI @TheTakeaway @jamifloyd @errollouis @CNN @NBCNews...' | Jun 14 22:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Credico2016 @wikileaks @WBAI @TheTakeaway @jamifloyd @errollouis...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@PartlyPatriot @wikileaks She might be pushed though.' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'The man is just being exploited by #battistelli...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: The man is just being exploited...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '#Pattenttrolls cause “direct economic harm” to small startups...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @U4PatentReform: #Pattenttrolls cause “direct economic harm” to...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: "Software patents in the last decade...' | Jun 14 22:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '"Software patents in the last decade have skyrocketed."...' | Jun 14 22:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875098851040006144 | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/YApAyxq1RX | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 14 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 14 22:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099488335126528 | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KzNFm8dJrA (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenOS #gnu #linux | Jun 14 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Tux Machines | Jun 14 22:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099517674192896 | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #vista10 vs. #Linux #OpenGL Performance On #Kabylake - | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Summer 2017 https://t.co/iRNaH3hIOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 14 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 vs. Linux OpenGL Performance On Kabylake - Summer 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 22:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YApAyxq1RX #android #linux #google' | Jun 14 22:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875099909996851200 | Jun 14 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature | Jun 14 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Init System for GNU/Linux https://t.co/0MLu7jdfLc | Jun 14 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #systemd #init | Jun 14 22:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature Init System for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 14 22:18 | |
| MinceR | it's not an init system | Jun 14 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/04Qgd | Jun 14 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scintillating Hilarious Funny Random Meme Dump - Album on Imgur | Jun 14 22:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875106363000709120 | Jun 14 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww | Jun 14 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux release. | Jun 14 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion | Tux Machines | Jun 14 22:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww #gnu #linux release.' | Jun 14 22:46 | |
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| DaaemonFC | Fedora updated Mutter to the latest git commit for the 3.24 branch and clobbered a bunch of bugs. | Jun 15 00:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Hooray. | Jun 15 00:09 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, So, apparently Walmart overtorqued my oil drain plug last time I had an oil change. | Jun 15 00:09 |
| DaaemonFC | Now I have to take it to the shop to see what the damage is. | Jun 15 00:09 |
| DaaemonFC | The guy at the shop said bring it by on Monday and he'll try to get it out. | Jun 15 00:10 |
| DaaemonFC | Hoping that's possible. God, what kind of idiots do they have working at Walmart? | Jun 15 00:10 |
| DaaemonFC | Who puts an oil drain plug on with an impact wrench!? | Jun 15 00:10 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm, came across an article from Ted T'so. | Jun 15 00:16 |
| DaaemonFC | Says he recommends noatime for ext2/3/4 on SSDs to get writes down. He notes that there really aren't many downsides unless you run mutt, and even then you can work around it. | Jun 15 00:16 |
| DaaemonFC | I had wondered. I use noatime personally. | Jun 15 00:17 |
| DaaemonFC | I think that turning read operations into writes is dumb. | Jun 15 00:17 |
| DaaemonFC | I always used noatime even when I had a hard disk, even before relatime got added. | Jun 15 00:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875107280114651137 | Jun 15 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/TIquCIK6Ww | Jun 15 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux release. | Jun 15 00:23 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ChangeLog-4.11.5 | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora packages are already available in Koji. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| DaaemonFC | Seems to fix power management on my Intel HD Audio. | Jun 15 00:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875131606251565057 | Jun 15 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #Microsoft #PowerShell Threat, | Jun 15 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #DevSecOps, #Botnets, #USB, and Death of Microsoft's | Jun 15 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Docscom https://t.co/UEFH91dhSb (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 00:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 00:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Microsoft PowerShell Threat, DevSecOps, Botnets, USB, and Death of Microsoft's Docs.com | Tux Machines | Jun 15 00:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875132009756200960 | Jun 15 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LLVM 5.0, #CPP 14, R and #Travis https://t.co/GR5utZhBi5 | Jun 15 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #programming #compiler | Jun 15 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LLVM 5.0, C++14, R and Travis | Tux Machines | Jun 15 00:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 00:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #Microsoft #PowerShell Threat, #DevSecOps, #Botnets, #USB,...' | Jun 15 00:27 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with Microsoft infiltrating Linux isn't really Red Hat. | Jun 15 00:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They bought themselves a membership at the Linux Foundation, which takes their money even as Linux gets locked out of more computers. | Jun 15 00:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LLVM 5.0, #CPP 14, R and #Travis https://t.co/GR5utZhBi5...' | Jun 15 00:29 | |
| DaaemonFC | This came some time after they got rid of their only board member with no corporate affiliation. | Jun 15 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875133127919902720 | Jun 15 00:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS FUD and #Microsoft #Entryism | Jun 15 00:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DnUkpmpN6v (www.tuxmachines.org) #blackduck | Jun 15 00:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fud #whitesource #iot #CloudFoundry | Jun 15 00:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 00:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS FUD and Microsoft Entryism | Tux Machines | Jun 15 00:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875133517260259329 | Jun 15 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases #Firefox 54 | Jun 15 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/xfojobwVNA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #internet #www | Jun 15 00:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 00:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases Firefox 54 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 00:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FOSS FUD and #Microsoft #Entryism https://t.co/DnUkpmpN6v #blackduck #fud...' | Jun 15 00:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla Launches Campaign, Releases #Firefox 54 https://t.co/xfojobwVNA #freesw...' | Jun 15 00:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875134228219998208 | Jun 15 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: 2017 Maintainer and #Kernel Summit, #DebConf 17, | Jun 15 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PyLadies #Pune, and Recent Talks https://t.co/mFvXwc9yS8 | Jun 15 00:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #india #linux #python | Jun 15 00:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: 2017 Maintainer and Kernel Summit, DebConf 17, PyLadies Pune, and Recent Talks | Tux Machines | Jun 15 00:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm, using Pidgin. | Jun 15 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | The IRC helper plugins really help a lot. Also, someone figured out how to make Facebook Chat work again with Purple Facebook. | Jun 15 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 15 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like Microsoft is gaining influence with just about everyone in the Free Software circles these days. | Jun 15 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not to be used for anything good, but it's like some Ra's al Ghul shit going on. | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Your city is so corrupt that we were able to infiltrate all levels of your government." | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | ReiserFS got some small updates in 4.11.5. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | I guess its still there for legacy reasons. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | SUSE rushed to make it default and managed to get it merged. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | So there may be some old systems out there that still use it. | Jun 15 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's been 11 years since SUSE switched to Ext3 (now uses Ext4), so maybe it's time to consider retiring it? | Jun 15 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I would be using XFS on this laptop except that it's not possible to shrink an existing file system. You have to xfsdump/xfsrestore. | Jun 15 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | But if you're doing a single desktop install with everything on one partition (Ubuntu style) and never plan to mess with it again, that might be a good use case for XFS. | Jun 15 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | The performance of XFS is better in most cases than Ext4,. Ext4 just got some XFS features tacked onto existing Ext3 code. | Jun 15 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat recommends XFS over Ext4 for volumes over 16 TB, even though Ext4 is capable of much larger volumes. | Jun 15 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | But that doesn't affect me. (500 GB SSD) | Jun 15 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is pretty smallish compared with Windows. | Jun 15 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even with everything I install, I'm sitting at 11/50 GB used on /. | Jun 15 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 is roughly 40 GB, and that's *after* Microsoft compressed a ton of the folders and caused a performance overhead of dealing with them. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | It would be much larger than that otherwise. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | They need to go on a deleting spree and tell you sorry that Word 95 might not work anymore. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | But they never will. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is just a huge disappointment. | Jun 15 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | The performance sucks and this is after several years of being declared stable. | Jun 15 02:31 |
| cubexyz | I guess lsx is the champ for being the smallest os | Jun 15 02:34 |
| cubexyz | two 256K images | Jun 15 02:34 |
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| cubexyz | I've got no idea how much disk space I got on lsx | Jun 15 03:00 |
| cubexyz | it took me a while just to get to cc to compile | Jun 15 03:00 |
| cubexyz | the kernel is 11,272 bytes | Jun 15 03:05 |
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| cubexyz | lsx is where BKUNIX came from | Jun 15 03:12 |
| cubexyz | http://rk86.com/frolov/bk0011.htm | Jun 15 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rk86.com | Elektronika BK 0011 (?????? ?? 0011) | Jun 15 03:14 | |
| cubexyz | PDP-11/03, probably the least powerful of all the PDP-11 series | Jun 15 03:18 |
| cubexyz | you could have bought a Heathkit H11 computer in 1978 | Jun 15 03:20 |
| cubexyz | $1295 US dollars at the time | Jun 15 03:20 |
| cubexyz | that's the kit... you still had to put it together | Jun 15 03:21 |
| cubexyz | so yes, I think one could run lsx on the H11 | Jun 15 03:27 |
| cubexyz | even had RX01 compatible 8" floppy drives, like the PDP-11/03 | Jun 15 03:28 |
| cubexyz | quite the collector's item now | Jun 15 03:28 |
| cubexyz | but the compile for lsx does work | Jun 15 03:30 |
| cubexyz | compiler | Jun 15 03:30 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Regarding Wayland again....I notice that my system is faster and more stable with fewer odd behaviors under X. | Jun 15 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's crap, but it's crap that's as old as I am. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | They've had some time to fix it up. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | I see that Wayland is making progress. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | A year ago, I'm told that 2D games were slideshows. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: I think that Reiser4 would have worked out better than BtrFS. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | The code existed, it did what it did, and they could have forked it and called it something else. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really the work fixing for wayland is also removing crap out of X11 applicaitons as well. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so wayland work I see as required work to clean up existing messes. | Jun 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Yeah, I noticed a bunch of cleanup patches that removed support for things like Linux 2.4 on PowerPC. | Jun 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Who is using modern X on Linux 2.4 on PowerPC in 2016?" | Jun 15 05:21 |
| cubexyz | I use linux 2.4, but not powerpc :) | Jun 15 05:21 |
| cubexyz | also linux 2.2 | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | All sorts of garbage that nobody ever took out. | Jun 15 05:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with a modern X11 server? | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: Well, probably not with X Server 1.17. | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | You'd have to be using Linux 2.4 with a modern X server on PowerPC. I don't even know if that's possible. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| cubexyz | XFree86 4.3.0 | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Probably nobody does. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Like really 4.9 and newer kernels work on old PowerPC hardware. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| cubexyz | is that modern enough for you? :) | Jun 15 05:23 |
| oiaohm | X.org has become filled with stuff to support combinations that really no one should ever use. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | No, the last time I ran XFree86 was 2004. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | It was on Ubuntu 4.10. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Live CD was separate from the installer CD. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | You could check out a demo of the system in Live mode but you had to insert CD 2 and install using the Debian installer. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| cubexyz | oh and I also use XFree86 3.3.3 sometimes | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | They just changed it to say Ubuntu and pull in either the Server or Desktop packages. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | No KDE or anything. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| cubexyz | I have an interest in historical X | Jun 15 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was a very rough release. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you like running historic systems. running stuff for production there are combinations that just should never exist. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| oiaohm | So like X11 currentl that is currently supported running on a not currently supported kernel should not really happen. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was pretty cool though. They sent me a disk set and I checked it out on a PC I was running Windows XP on and Ubuntu ran so much better that I stopped and backed up all my files and installed Ubuntu and let it take over the entire disk. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| cubexyz | Canonical used to mail out free CDs | Jun 15 05:26 |
| cubexyz | I think they stopped doing that though | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yep, I think I have them somewhere. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | They did. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | They used to send you x86 32 and 64-bit and PowerPC Mac. | Jun 15 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then they dropped you to a limit of one order. Then they dropped PowerPC Mac from the default. Then they eventually dropped the PPC arch entirely, at least officially. | Jun 15 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | I know there's Intel Mac images still. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of people like to buy Macs and run Linux on them for some reason. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's *legal* for Apple to void the hardware warranty because of it, but they'll probably try to anyway. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Really Macs running Linux is kind of torture. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| cubexyz | there's some DEC aficionados that still run Vax and PDP-11 | Jun 15 05:29 |
| cubexyz | so I'm not the most impractical :) | Jun 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Doesn't Linux have to have an HFS+ boot partition and identify as Mac OS to boot? | Jun 15 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly they buy a Mac then they find out their software is limited then go desperation. | Jun 15 05:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm only running emulators for that | Jun 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | The HFS+ driver in Linux is not exactly something you want to use as a production system. It's probably good enough for an EFI boot partition. | Jun 15 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | macOS sucks. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | They "deprecated" OpenGL and left it at 4.2. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | So the only way to make your app perform is port it to Metal. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's blackmail. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple Really the instructions change based on what apple hardware it is. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | InstallingDebianOn/Apple - Debian Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/r04dv ] | Jun 15 05:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple doesn't allow third party OpenGL or Vulkan driver. At least you can install one on Windows. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Linux you do have options of more than 1 opengl driver. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So all of those older video game ports to Mac on Steam that the developers have in maintenance mode are never going to be ported. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So their performance won't get better. | Jun 15 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa supports Vulkan, but each release continues to optimize OpenGL too, so old apps run better over time. | Jun 15 05:33 |
| oiaohm | https://moltengl.com/ yep want standard conforming opengl/vulkan on mac hardware pay. | Jun 15 05:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moltengl.com | Molten – Vulkan and faster OpenGL ES on iOS and macOS | Jun 15 05:34 | |
| DaemonFC | it says ES | Jun 15 05:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the opengl is still cut back. | Jun 15 05:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://mesamatrix.net/ ES does hide a few very useful extensions. | Jun 15 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mesamatrix.net | The OpenGL vs Mesa matrix | Jun 15 05:35 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I understand there's a feature in Fedora at least that has a stub in place of libgl.so.1 that redirects to the proper version based on the drivers you use. | Jun 15 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | It apparently is to solve the Nvidia driver clobbers Mesa's libgl problem that has been around since forever. | Jun 15 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/58 | Jun 15 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | Ayatana Indicators | sunweaver's NET | Jun 15 05:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Good. It was crap anyway. | Jun 15 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible but you can load the TopIcons Plus extension and put them back up where the system tray used to be. | Jun 15 05:52 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/NVIDIA/libglvnd there is work to cure the libgl.so.1 clobber problem for good. | Jun 15 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - NVIDIA/libglvnd: The GL Vendor-Neutral Dispatch library | Jun 15 06:01 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the old alternative solution of altering the libgl.so.1 link fails badly on PRIME systems when you have intel graphics and Nvidia closed source both needing opengl drivers at the same time. | Jun 15 06:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so this leads to libglvnd being a proper dispatch system. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I wonder how hard writing a GTK+ 3 theme is. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I see a lot of them, but no ports of Nodoka or Nimbus. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | Two of the best themes for GNOME 2. | Jun 15 06:04 |
| MinceR | 15 011650 < DaaemonFC> Says he recommends noatime for ext2/3/4 on SSDs to get writes down. He notes that there really aren't many downsides unless you run mutt, and | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | even then you can work around it. | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | is it even worth worrying about writes to SSDs now? | Jun 15 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Well, they're pointless writes. | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | afaik they can take a ridiculous number of writes already, if they live long enough | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | and firmware bugs are more likely to kill them off | Jun 15 06:05 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Vulkan in standard mandates existence of a dispatch system. | Jun 15 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | So there's that, and they cause CPU and disk activity which can prevent modern mobile platforms from more time in deep sleep. | Jun 15 06:06 |
| MinceR | or they just reach a limit in their counter and give up (intel) | Jun 15 06:06 |
| MinceR | 15 065227 < DaemonFC> GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible | Jun 15 06:08 |
| MinceR | did they pull a shuttlecock? :> | Jun 15 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: "Legacy" system tray icons are put in this little widget on the bottom left that expands out when you mouseover it. | Jun 15 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | TopIcons Plus puts them back where they would be in GNOME 2. | Jun 15 06:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 06:10 |
| MinceR | what do they have instead of "legacy" system tray? | Jun 15 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: All the system stuff in one menu. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | But you can alter how it behaves with MOAR extensions. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 15 of them loaded to make GNOME 3 usable again. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's like 80-90 of them listed in Software on Fedora. | Jun 15 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I use the top panel but I use Dash To Dock on the bottom set to intelligently hide. | Jun 15 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | Gives me back some monitor space. | Jun 15 06:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 15 06:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/8K6tMoo.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/tlc5G ) | Jun 15 06:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Gun Powder Art - Zebra | Jun 15 06:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gun Powder Art - Zebra - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 06:41 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1840/ | Jun 15 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Genetic Testing Results | Jun 15 06:51 | |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/9be29620fd89013486fb005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-21 ) | Jun 15 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-21 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 15 07:30 | |
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| TechDefender | Hello, anybody here? my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 08:38 |
| TechDefender | Besides the EFF, where is a good place to look for that kind of help? | Jun 15 08:38 |
| TechDefender | Also, is there a better way to contact TechRights, besides IRC? all i see is PGP key, but no email address.. | Jun 15 08:42 |
| TechDefender | hello? | Jun 15 08:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn It probably would not have happened if...' | Jun 15 09:27 | |
| schestowitz | [02:04] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 15 09:30 |
| schestowitz | Only Microsoft or a large group photo, which happens to include them? | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875268603704168449 | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/8p54LchZ7U (techrights.org) | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #techrights #gnu #linux | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2017: New BlackArch Linux ISO and Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion | Techrights | Jun 15 09:30 | |
| schestowitz | I remember his Vista 7 photo op in Japan... | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TechDefender | Hello, my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 09:30 |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: hi | Jun 15 09:31 |
| schestowitz | what's the nature of this case? | Jun 15 09:31 |
| TechDefender | Restore CDs | Jun 15 09:31 |
| schestowitz | which country are you in if you don't mind me asking | Jun 15 09:32 |
| TechDefender | Which are free to download. but they are saying it is not free (akin to an actual Windows CD) | Jun 15 09:32 |
| TechDefender | USA | Jun 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz | I once spoke to a lawyer here who won a case against Microsoft | Jun 15 09:33 |
| TechDefender | yay | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | recent: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/230794-woman-wins-10000-judgment-against-microsoft-for-forced-windows-10-upgrade | Jun 15 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Woman wins $10,000 judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade - ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/r05ia ] | Jun 15 09:33 | |
| schestowitz | maybe pursue this same lawyer | Jun 15 09:33 |
| TechDefender | Nice | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | as in her case | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users/ | Jun 15 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seattletimes.com | Microsoft draws flak for pushing Windows 10 on PC users | The Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/pf97k ] | Jun 15 09:34 | |
| schestowitz | "The Seattle Times reports that Teri Goldstein, of Sausalito, California, sued Microsoft after a failed Windows 10 upgrade left her system performing poorly, prone to crashing, and reportedly unusable for multiple days. Given the general issues associated with performing in-place upgrades, even successful ones, it’s not surprising that some users would run into problems. Goldstein reached out to Microsoft customer service to attempt to | Jun 15 09:34 |
| schestowitz | resolve her issues, but filed suit against the company once it failed to resolve her problems. Her $10,000 figure reflected estimated lost compensation as well as the cost of a new system." | Jun 15 09:34 |
| TechDefender | thank you. on TechRights.org , what are their emails? | Jun 15 09:34 |
| TechDefender | also, who is there to contact besides the EFF? | Jun 15 09:34 |
| schestowitz | EFF doesn't go after Microsoft | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | They'r cowardly on the matter | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | same for Apple | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | you can try doctorow@craphound.com | Jun 15 09:36 |
| TechDefender | Yes, a few at the EFF , seem disinterested, but the EFF, is big... so the must be someone there interested in the case | Jun 15 09:36 |
| schestowitz | esp. it it concerns DRM somehow | Jun 15 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Doctorow is with the EFF | Jun 15 09:37 |
| schestowitz | he's a Ubuntu user, hates Microsofgt | Jun 15 09:37 |
| TechDefender | i like his speeches | Jun 15 09:37 |
| TechDefender | thanks for his email. should i tell him u sent me? or just that i found his email on the internet? | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | it's OK | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | whichever | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | go get em (Microsoft) | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | let us know fi you need info | Jun 15 09:40 |
| TechDefender | yes,, any help is appreciated.. not just lawyers, also PR, kinda stuff | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | we have a repository of about 10k microsoft-centric articles, plus some leaked evidence from them catalogued | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | negative publicity for them helps FOSS | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | and helps protect FOSS from their mole, entryism, EEE | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TechDefender | What is the best way to communicate with you guys? IRC? email, phone, etc? | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | as many have been sold the lie of "new Microsoft", which is laughable (a PR campaign) | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | IRC is good | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | more people who can respond | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TechDefender | What is Doctorow's best video? i'll send it to my friend | Jun 15 09:42 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Jun 15 09:44 |
| TechDefender | i'm trying to find it-- the one where he says you have to treat your friends like they've fallen off the life boat and need help, he starts crying at the end | Jun 15 09:45 |
| TechDefender | Is there another IRC room, that is best for getting help with this case? | Jun 15 09:46 |
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| TechDefender | can i PM you? | Jun 15 09:53 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS...' | Jun 15 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875277066610126848 | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rosa #LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ab8omEe6Fd (www.tuxmachines.org) #mdv | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mandriva #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rosa LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:02 | |
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| -->You are now talking on #techrights | Jun 15 10:09 | |
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| ---Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 15 10:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz...' | Jun 15 10:14 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: sorry, was afk | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | wife pulled the plug on the laptop by accident | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | had to reboot | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | didn't see any PMs if you sent any | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I prefer not to receive PMs | Jun 15 10:15 |
| TechDefender | why not? | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | long story, doesn't matter now | Jun 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz | workflow-related | Jun 15 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280303589388290 | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280986690510848 | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Dell release new Ubuntu developer computers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY...' | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: okay | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: https://temp.pm/?xnN9ESdlqTlFD1961EW5eO3C7-30m-mQs5DC8KGsG8Ri7xPQ2M8Jsx5-N | Jun 15 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Temp.PM - Temporary Private Message [ http://ur1.ca/r05rg ] | Jun 15 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | Got it | Jun 15 10:33 |
| TechDefender | what do you think? any ideas? | Jun 15 10:34 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 10:51 |
| TechDefender | hi | Jun 15 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | TechDefender: h | Jun 15 10:53 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875281564128739329 | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875294915500093440 | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 15 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875295678527934464 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 26 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VLCpbqLwtG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dnf #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #f26 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora 26 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 11:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack...' | Jun 15 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican wave scores...' | Jun 15 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican...' | Jun 15 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT, which are...' | Jun 15 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT,...' | Jun 15 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875305089342345221 | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You watch fake...' | Jun 15 11:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You...' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder....' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875306867517526016 | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: I want to write about it | Jun 15 12:05 |
| schestowitz | but it can affect the case | Jun 15 12:05 |
| schestowitz | so would only do so with consent from you | Jun 15 12:05 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: no, not yet. | Jun 15 12:05 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i am mainly looking for help for him. Well, what do you mean "write about it"? | Jun 15 12:07 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks for respecting his privacy, also :) | Jun 15 12:08 |
| TechDefender | i can ask him a question, if you want, or you can talk to him yourself later. | Jun 15 12:08 |
| schestowitz | I understand. | Jun 15 12:10 |
| schestowitz | It can compromise the outcome. | Jun 15 12:10 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: well, we all want the same outcome right? | Jun 15 12:11 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: do you want me to give him your email, phone number, etc? if you want to talk to him? | Jun 15 12:12 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: since, i think we are on the same "side" here, he would probably be happy to talk to you. And you know Cory Doctorow? Is this something that he would be interested in? | Jun 15 12:17 |
| schestowitz | phone is usually a waste of time for these things | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | as one can't take note | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | based on experience talking to patent people | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | no links, no nothing... | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | best come to IRC every now and then to drop info, preferably things that can be published | Jun 15 12:19 |
| TechDefender | i think both voice, and messaging combined, is the best way to communicate | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | you or others can also write guest posts about it, clarifying how Microsoft erred | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | it's on-topic | Jun 15 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Patent is a messy area admitting you knew about something when it come to court damages value goes up. | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | voice is good for some things, like family | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | not when you need quotes, links etc. | Jun 15 12:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is putting together a website, of stuff that he wants to publish | Jun 15 12:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjflNTd2kho this is from FOSDEM 2017 I guess you have seen it. | Jun 15 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSDEM 2017: "This is why I drink: a discussion of Fedora's legal state" by Tom Callaway - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qixsn ] | Jun 15 12:23 | |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 12:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you have not seen that video you will like it. | Jun 15 12:25 |
| MinceR | i think i haven't | Jun 15 12:26 |
| MinceR | though "this is why i drink" sounds familiar | Jun 15 12:26 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IYh4E | Jun 15 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitten can't stop kissing cyclist who saved her - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 12:32 | |
| schestowitz | how do we know he saved it? :-p | Jun 15 12:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe the cat say, "let me down, let me down, please..." | Jun 15 12:40 |
| schestowitz | it's also dangerous, the cat can fall down and get squashed | Jun 15 12:40 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 15 12:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875307421404725248 | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 12:47 | |
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| schestowitz | good! | Jun 15 13:35 |
| schestowitz | Facebook apologist https://openbytes.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/privacy-social-media-and-the-perception-of-evil/ | Jun 15 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com | Privacy, social media and the perception of evil? – Tim Wilson | Jun 15 13:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mastermikeg/status/875337713481854977 | Jun 15 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mastermikeg: @schestowitz https://t.co/ESCT9r0yDW | Jun 15 14:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://chaos.social/users/pinkprius/updates/17393 | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chaos.social | Jun 15 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | "ISPs != judges/cops" | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | They'll soon be. You just wait. | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875344042355298305 | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and | Jun 15 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #elementaryOS Loki 0.4.1 https://t.co/PBMbfaPkoN | Jun 15 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | REVIEWS: Devuan 1.0.0, Slackel 7.0, Lubuntu 17.04, and elementary OS Loki 0.4.1 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:29 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can think of ISP as private security problem. Duty of care requirement for users/customers can cause nightmares. | Jun 15 14:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and...' | Jun 15 14:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The BBC is lying, claiming that May...' | Jun 15 14:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn The BBC is lying, claiming...' | Jun 15 14:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn May thinks she's the Queen, but fails...' | Jun 15 14:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May thinks she's the Queen,...' | Jun 15 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875347338885300224 | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 15:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeNAS 11.0 Released and #OpenBSD Server Shown Off | Jun 15 17:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875392559048261632 | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #amdgpu #vulkan #madmax #games #drm | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #mesa | Jun 15 17:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux and Cairo | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 #amdgpu #vulkan...' | Jun 15 17:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 17:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875401317447061504 | Jun 15 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For | Jun 15 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:23 | |
| cubexyz | just avoid Microsoft... don't use their software | Jun 15 18:25 |
| cubexyz | that's the best advice I can think of | Jun 15 18:25 |
| cubexyz | binaries without source just isn't a good situation | Jun 15 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875403194247020545 | Jun 15 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft | Jun 15 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Windows, University on Broken #Voting Systems | Jun 15 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: University College London 'Burned' by Microsoft Windows, University on Broken Voting Systems, Coredumps on Web Servers and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875404072660213761 | Jun 15 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT | Jun 15 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 15 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More of today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 18:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft #Windows, University...' | Jun 15 18:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 18:28 | |
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| cubexyz | can't believe they're still debating doze in Munich | Jun 15 18:33 |
| cubexyz | very lame | Jun 15 18:33 |
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| razielle_tzu | yeah but isn't the mayor a fan boy? | Jun 15 18:49 |
| cubexyz | well microsoft wants to move German HQ to Munich so there's probably all sorts of nonsense going on | Jun 15 18:54 |
| cubexyz | Dieter is a fan of Microsoft because it's probably expedient for him | Jun 15 18:57 |
| cubexyz | so who knows what the real deal is | Jun 15 18:57 |
| razielle_tzu | M$ and Dieter will but no one else | Jun 15 18:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 19:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/875413195581796352 | Jun 15 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 19:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 19:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:04 | |
| cubexyz | a certain AC/DC song comes to mind :-/ | Jun 15 19:04 |
| cubexyz | politicians who know almost nothing making IT policy is stupid | Jun 15 19:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i agree but it's not likely to change much anywhere | Jun 15 19:06 |
| cubexyz | my own city's municipal IT is a bad joke | Jun 15 19:09 |
| razielle_tzu | same with my county's from what i've heard | Jun 15 19:09 |
| razielle_tzu | i mean my mum's partner works for it and has said if i can really do what i do for the computer club i'm more qualified than 3/4 of the staff there | Jun 15 19:10 |
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| cubexyz | tried to pay a parking ticket online (city of oshawa web site) | Jun 15 19:17 |
| cubexyz | not only did it not work on firefox on linux, but also not in firefox on windows | Jun 15 19:17 |
| razielle_tzu | o.O | Jun 15 19:17 |
| cubexyz | only IE on doze worked | Jun 15 19:18 |
| razielle_tzu | running a small LTSP network with a custom image and a tiny webserver makes me more qualified than 3/4 of the local council staff | Jun 15 19:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the early ISPs used FreeBSD so in many ways things have become worse | Jun 15 19:22 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jun 15 19:22 |
| cubexyz | but city council here is useless | Jun 15 19:23 |
| cubexyz | incompetent I'd say | Jun 15 19:23 |
| razielle_tzu | lots are | Jun 15 19:24 |
| cubexyz | but on the plus side there's a lot of smart european programmers | Jun 15 19:25 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Jun 15 19:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 15 19:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder if OpenIndiana would run on this laptop at all. | Jun 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I used OpenSolaris on a junk Compaq laptop that I got at Walmart.... | Jun 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | It surprised me that it worked. | Jun 15 19:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo #freesw #foss #libreoffice...' | Jun 15 19:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:39 | |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't tried anything but linux and BSD in ages | Jun 15 19:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/157/ | Jun 15 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 157 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 19:45 | |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/159/ | Jun 15 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 159 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 19:51 | |
| cubexyz | not clicking on that | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | it's sfw | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | the "Dick" is a character called Richard | Jun 15 20:00 |
| cubexyz | there's tons of interesting OSes | Jun 15 20:03 |
| razielle_tzu | i know, i just haven't played | Jun 15 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875422643234775040 | Jun 15 20:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 20:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:06 | |
| cubexyz | Plan 9 was kind of dead but... | Jun 15 20:10 |
| cubexyz | https://notamonadtutorial.com/harvey-an-operating-system-with-plan-9-s-shadow-3081414e5f0b | Jun 15 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notamonadtutorial.com | Harvey, an operating system with Plan 9's shadow – This is not a Monad tutorial [ http://ur1.ca/r098o ] | Jun 15 20:10 | |
| cubexyz | I do think Slack is better for work | Jun 15 20:11 |
| cubexyz | even for games it's not bad, although there's some hand-turning needed | Jun 15 20:12 |
| cubexyz | I was quite happy running Linux 2.4 for a lot of things | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | Loki and LGP games, scanning, printing, web server, etc | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | but the web _browser_ that was a different story | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | I never found a good solution for that | Jun 15 20:17 |
| MinceR | the web sucks massively | Jun 15 20:17 |
| MinceR | it has become fashionable to only support CrashKit and Blink | Jun 15 20:18 |
| cubexyz | I got stuck on icecat 2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 15 20:18 |
| MinceR | i'm mostly running palemoon | Jun 15 20:18 |
| cubexyz | can't remember how old that was, but it must be pretty old | Jun 15 20:19 |
| MinceR | but even allowing all scripts and maliciousness i still get a lot of missing functionality | Jun 15 20:19 |
| MinceR | recently i tried to view an embedded map, couldn't see it in palemoon or iceweasel, had to use rekonq | Jun 15 20:19 |
| cubexyz | what, google maps? | Jun 15 20:21 |
| cubexyz | there's not too many web types testing on old browsers | Jun 15 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I'm one of the few | Jun 15 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I test on FC1, vector (various versions), slack, openbsd, chromeos, mint | Jun 15 20:23 |
| MinceR | no, it was osm-based | Jun 15 20:23 |
| MinceR | this one: http://xn--allestrungen-9ib.de/stoerung/deutsche-telekom/karte/ | Jun 15 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xn--allestrungen-9ib.de | Telekom Störung? Aktuelle Probleme und Störungsstelle | Alle Störungen [ http://ur1.ca/r09bn ] | Jun 15 20:23 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, didn't work on vector... not surprised | Jun 15 20:26 |
| cubexyz | works on google chrome 56 though | Jun 15 20:27 |
| cubexyz | ah, openstreetmap | Jun 15 20:27 |
| cubexyz | and I spoke too soon... it actually did work on vector | Jun 15 20:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 15 20:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for @jeremycorbyn ...' | Jun 15 20:28 | |
| cubexyz | on vector it switches to google maps | Jun 15 20:28 |
| cubexyz | vector is stuck on firefox 16.02 :) | Jun 15 20:29 |
| cubexyz | and guess what... I'm also stuck on HOMM3 1.3.1a | Jun 15 20:30 |
| MinceR | and OSM itself works fine on palemoon | Jun 15 20:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for...' | Jun 15 20:30 | |
| cubexyz | is OSM foss? | Jun 15 20:33 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 15 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875435421500555264 | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh yeah I remember now | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437143765565440 | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #licensing #sharing | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| cubexyz | palemoon gave me XPCOMGlueLoad error | Jun 15 20:38 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting Started with Open Source Licenses https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 #freesw...' | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437502508613632 | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pLrq4vDauE (www.tuxmachines.org) performance | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 20:40 | |
| cubexyz | I got seamonkey on slack... it uses a lot less memory than chrome | Jun 15 20:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875439539732525056 | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You're all in this together, playing partisan...' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You're all in this together,...' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Trump Tried to Convince NSA Chief to Absolve Him of Any Russian Collusion: Report | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw | Jun 15 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If Doom was done today (Part 1) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r09hr ] | Jun 15 20:48 | |
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| schestowitz | haha, classic | Jun 15 20:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875440872539602944 | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 20:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 20:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives of many...' | Jun 15 20:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives...' | Jun 15 21:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented decades of...' | Jun 15 21:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5KwmKg2.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/5KwmKg2 ) | Jun 15 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Right way to use a fidget spinner | Jun 15 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Right way to use a fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 21:01 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/original/N/A/8/J/NA8J6Mi (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/iUIbs ) | Jun 15 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pick your fighter - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 21:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented...' | Jun 15 21:07 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/a/8O5z7 | Jun 15 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 15 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 21:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has appointed Murdoch's...' | Jun 15 21:17 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Obviously, NVIDIA users didn't pay enough for the device. | Jun 15 21:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has...' | Jun 15 21:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May: did Murdoch...' | Jun 15 21:18 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 21:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May:...' | Jun 15 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Picard just made some Vorbis files unplayable with gstreamer-based apps. | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875452475142135808 | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like I need to rip them again and hand tag them all. | Jun 15 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CyberSecurity, Cryptocoin, and SMB | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD' | Jun 15 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ShakespeareITW/status/875452865699094532 | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ShakespeareITW https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875453189738213380 | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Glibc, KDevelop, Stack Overflow Survey, and PostgreSQL | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TucsonCode retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454116826300416 | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA...' | Jun 15 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @programminbuddy retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454934379921408 | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.26.3 and More https://t.co/IPRVi0jKNl | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: IBM & Canonical, LXD Containers. Mir 0.26.3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875455282469625857 | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875456046134734848 | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More) | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j2CNCOMh2u (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #gnu | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers, Red Hat,and Fedora (New ISO and More) | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ErrorTeamWeb retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 21:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 21:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More)...' | Jun 15 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457092684881920 | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wonder Boy, Dying Light, LandTraveller, and Two Worlds II | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 21:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457501034029057 | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 22:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jun 15 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457917117374466 | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 22:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers and Howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 22:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @codeappsweb favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI #freesw' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/0VGDTsk.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/0VGDTsk ) | Jun 15 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today | Jun 15 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 22:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL #howto #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 22:14 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/DPHEaz3.gifv | Jun 15 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "Damn, It's a good thing I didn't trip over that"!! | Jun 15 22:15 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In case you didn't notice, it's Russia :) | Jun 15 22:18 |
| MinceR | i noticed | Jun 15 22:18 |
| MinceR | from the license plate :> | Jun 15 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah %) | Jun 15 22:22 |
| oiaohm | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/15/pirate-bay-european-court-of-justice-rules-infringing-copyright-torrent-sites this will get interesting. | Jun 15 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | European court of justice rules Pirate Bay is infringing copyright | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/r0a1x ] | Jun 15 22:25 | |
| MinceR | business as usual | Jun 15 22:26 |
| MinceR | they'll become even more hidden | Jun 15 22:26 |
| MinceR | also, fuck the EU | Jun 15 22:26 |
| MinceR | they're against every single one of their alleged principles | Jun 15 22:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875461642280091648 | Jun 15 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 | Jun 15 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/1VoJRJF00Y (techrights.org) | Jun 15 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 22:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 | Techrights | Jun 15 22:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 15/6/2017: Mir 0.26.3, FreeNAS 11.0 https://t.co/1VoJRJF00Y' | Jun 15 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker Where are you off...' | Jun 15 22:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Mir goes on in a diminished capacity. | Jun 15 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Distribution-specific software almost always dies off, even if it is under an open source license. | Jun 15 22:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker Where are...' | Jun 15 22:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Because you can. https://t.co/9pAqyTRJBf' | Jun 15 22:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker The approval rates of...' | Jun 15 22:48 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: one of the common arguments to those who attempt to avoid GPL license that torrents are not the derived they should be able to patch a GPL work without following GPL. But that case says that is not the case. | Jun 15 22:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @WCTC @IvankaTrump @GovWalker The approval...' | Jun 15 23:09 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: o | Jun 15 23:35 |
| schestowitz | on UPC | Jun 15 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Do you know who filed the complaint? | Jun 15 23:35 |
| schestowitz | And if yes, can you tell me privately (not for publication)? | Jun 15 23:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875494828880035840 | Jun 16 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise | Jun 16 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Authentication in Client Mode https://t.co/St7qRcKGi7 | Jun 16 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security | Jun 16 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.19 Linux Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication in Client Mode | Tux Machines | Jun 16 00:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 00:27 | |
| schestowitz | #cnn trying to max up the number of stories with #trump and #russia in the headline http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politics/russia-sanctions-senate-trump/index.html as if no demonstrable scandals exist? | Jun 16 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Senate passes Russia sanctions bill, pushing back against Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com [ http://ur1.ca/r0aqp ] | Jun 16 00:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875494916264275968 | Jun 16 00:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise | Jun 16 00:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Authentication in Client Mode https://t.co/St7qRcKGi7 | Jun 16 00:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security | Jun 16 00:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875500750239129600 | Jun 16 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN | Jun 16 00:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #debian #webkit #freesw | Jun 16 00:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 16 00:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 16 00:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You pinhead can only play pseudo-macho but...' | Jun 16 00:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump From steak with ketchup to meatloaf sandwiches:...' | Jun 16 00:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875502316719403010 | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free/Libre Software in the Public Sector in the #UK, | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Spain, and #France (#Bolton, #Galicia, and #Arles) | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/sUAFDFAV0w (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free/Libre Software in the Public Sector in the UK, Spain, and France (Bolton, Galicia, and Arles) | Tux Machines | Jun 16 00:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875503025284157440 | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mini-ITX guts https://t.co/8maP68ra1o | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 16 00:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 00:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have Mini-ITX guts | Tux Machines | Jun 16 00:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 16 00:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wall mountable, Linux-friendly industrial PCs have Mini-ITX guts...' | Jun 16 01:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875504575377231872 | Jun 16 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/ThwpvPOwIf | Jun 16 01:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 01:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 16 01:08 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter... | Jun 16 04:07 | |
| TechDefender | Hello, what other groups are like the EFF, Repair.org, FSF.org ? any others? | Jun 16 04:07 |
| cubexyz | since you mention repair.org I'll add ifixit.com | Jun 16 05:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| TechDefender | thanks. Who is the most 'powerful, influential' person, against Microsoft? | Jun 16 05:01 |
| TechDefender | for PR, lawsuit, etc | Jun 16 05:01 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jun 16 05:02 |
| TechDefender | is there a list somewhere? :) | Jun 16 05:02 |
| cubexyz | there was groklaw but I'm not sure if it's still active | Jun 16 05:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.groklaw.net/ | Jun 16 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jun 16 05:04 | |
| TechDefender | btw, if anyone sent me any PM's or messages today, i didn't get them. please send again | Jun 16 05:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the Linux world is like hurding cats. There is no real super strong absolute dominate leaders. | Jun 16 05:07 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: haha, well any help is appreciated :) | Jun 16 05:08 |
| cubexyz | David Boies was the DOJ lawyer in the United States vs Microsoft case | Jun 16 05:08 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: thanks | Jun 16 05:10 |
| cubexyz | the anti-Bill Gates is really people like Henry Spencer and Richard Stallman | Jun 16 05:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: like a open source project needing legal advice http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ you have this group. | Jun 16 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 16 05:11 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Spencer | Jun 16 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Henry Spencer - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c7i ] | Jun 16 05:11 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: multi staff from SFLC give presentations through the year. | Jun 16 05:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy then you have this group and then EFF and a few others. | Jun 16 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Software Freedom Conservancy - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c84 ] | Jun 16 05:14 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: all of them are willing to attempt to deal with companies doing the wrong things. And at time this includes Microsoft like when microsoft iso image writing tool they released closed source turned out to be based on a GPL protected work. | Jun 16 05:16 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thanks! | Jun 16 05:20 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 05:21 |
| TechDefender | yeh, Eben Moglen is great. But i remember reading that he retired/left the FSF? what happened | Jun 16 05:21 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: u have more info on why/how Henry Spencer fights MS? | Jun 16 05:26 |
| TechDefender | Is there someone in charge of TechRights.org to contact? | Jun 16 05:27 |
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| schestowitz | you can contact in the channel | Jun 16 05:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't understand | Jun 16 06:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz:hey, thanks for helping before, if u sent me a message, or PM i didn't get it, even if i was signed in (my scrollback was set too low) | Jun 16 06:00 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 06:27 |
| MinceR | http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-16/chinese-satellite-breaks-quantum-entanglement-distance-record/8620240 | Jun 16 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Chinese scientists use satellite to smash quantum entanglement distance record - Science News - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/r0csk ] | Jun 16 06:40 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/LWn8e | Jun 16 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imaginary Castles Art - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 06:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/15/seven-percent-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows-and-thats-not-even-the-scary-part/ | Jun 16 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The surprising number of American adults who think chocolate milk comes from brown cows - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/r0cve ] | Jun 16 06:51 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So much for Microsoft Office for the Web... | Jun 16 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | "I need to edit a DOCX document (because the company that requested to fill out the form doesn't have proper LaTeX templates, blehhh) while preserving the formatting as much as possible. MS Office Online was indeed the first thing I tried, but... Believe it or not, it doesn't actually preserve formatting. Yeap. >_< Not only that, but it (yes, the web app itself) crashes every time I copy-paste table contents. And it's overall hilario | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | usly slow. | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to run MS Word Viewer on Wine, and it works, but... It can't handle DOCX files without converting them into DOC, which, guess what, doesn't preserve formatting! Now I could try and see if MS Office 365 works on Wine, but last I heard it wasn't working that well. | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Next time I might just say screw the formatting and do it in Google Docs... Or LibreOffice Online." | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Found on Phoronix | Jun 16 06:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 06:54 |
| MinceR | m$ office won't even preserve formatting between the same version | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It depends on which Office format you're using and which version of Office and how many times and in what ways you have edited the file. | Jun 16 06:55 |
| MinceR | and on which computer you open it | Jun 16 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's why I gave up and purchased StarOffice 8.0 back in the 90s for school stuff. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | and sometimes it just reflows the document for no reason | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: I got up to the register and it rang up for a penny. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | and no two attempts to do so are alike | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | The manager said "Eh, just give it to him.". | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, maybe not 90s. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | When *was* 8.0? | Jun 16 06:56 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: in other words: News Flash, 7% of Americans don't take surveys seriously :P | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I got the version wrong. | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 16 06:57 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're an optimist, aren't you? :> | Jun 16 06:57 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: nice Castles though :) | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | It must have been 5 or 5.1 | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I got it not long after a computer with Windows 98. | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | It took a while to install it. :P | Jun 16 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I do remember the register thing because I was prepared to pay what the shelf said for it. Staples had a lot of non-MS stuff on the shelf back then. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Surprisingly, Walmart did too. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart used to sell Linux box sets. For a while, they even had a desktop PC with a Linux distribution on it. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: more like: i understand why people think it is funny to check YES, to "Does chocolate milk come from cows?" :) | Jun 16 06:59 |
| TechDefender | *brown cows | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Can't recall. Oddball distro. Wasn't around long. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're in for some surprises then :> | Jun 16 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.wired.com/2007/10/200-everex-gree/ | Jun 16 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/r0cx5 ] | Jun 16 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Wired had the article. | Jun 16 07:00 |
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| DaemonFC | No, it wasn't Ubuntu. | Jun 16 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was called gOS or something. | Jun 16 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOS_(operating_system) | Jun 16 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | gOS (operating system) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0cxc ] | Jun 16 07:01 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wywoKcW.jpg | Jun 16 07:07 |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/e2c1e4e165ff1c7dd1f84ad44c0926fe/tumblr_oqpbpqcvaZ1rn7bzro1_1280.jpg | Jun 16 07:14 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/a3o44fu.jpg (gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/EOAZ5 ) | Jun 16 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comic Con-victs - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 07:22 | |
| MinceR | http://capesforhire.com/4/ | Jun 16 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-capesforhire.com | Capes For Hires | Jun 16 07:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 16 08:54 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can always PM if I am at the keyboard or afk that will be another matter. | Jun 16 09:01 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 09:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @ggreenwald @theintercept These are, in my experience,...' | Jun 16 09:02 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I do support in winehq so I get people who PM all the time. But when it comes to legal prefer to remain in public channels in cases I stuff something up and others point out what I have forgot or missed. | Jun 16 09:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: and I am about to be AFK again. | Jun 16 09:05 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: being op in a few channels changing status for afk has caused a few issues. | Jun 16 09:05 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: okay, i can talk with you later, if you are busy | Jun 16 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | [06:27] <MinceR> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Jun 16 09:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875624568479559681 | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ThwpvPOwIf | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 09:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 16 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 09:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks I wonder if they even care. Did...' | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875655952367669249 | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 16 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ ...' | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875657995476140032 | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vZqGIfS5Fs (www.tuxmachines.org) #steam | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS (Debian) and New Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MelindaMcC1 https://twitter.com/MelindaMcC1/status/875658781450944512 | Jun 16 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz Just OMG. | Jun 16 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:27 | |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft hypocritically initiated these cases though it had abused its position for decades in worse ways http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eu-poised-to-fine-google-more-than-1-billion-in-antitrust-case-ft-report-2017-06-16 #google #antitrust | Jun 16 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU poised to fine Google more than $1 billion in antitrust case: FT report - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/r0e4f ] | Jun 16 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 favourited '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:34 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its not like google is 100 percent clean. | Jun 16 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875662849124831232 | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft in the Details | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 company that just...' | Jun 16 11:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875666016805715969 | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875676204426252288 | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP Lapse | Tux Machines | Jun 16 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: right | Jun 16 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it was | Jun 16 12:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with the google fine the question is will the EU have another hit a Microsoft. | Jun 16 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875676724985565184 | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 12:55 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects...' | Jun 16 12:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects Putin!' | Jun 16 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV' | Jun 16 13:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV | Jun 16 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875686634125238273 | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 13:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 16 13:10 | |
| MinceR | 16 101706 < schestowitz> I don't get it | Jun 16 13:21 |
| MinceR | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowyourmeme.com | I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter | Know Your Meme [ http://ur1.ca/r0el0 ] | Jun 16 13:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf #howto #gnu #linux #unix' | Jun 16 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch on TV...' | Jun 16 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch...' | Jun 16 13:25 | |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCYemqtWsAEx2a-.jpg:large | Jun 16 13:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And BTW, stop misleading/deluding yourself. You clearly...' | Jun 16 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875696563712122880 | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 's #Atom 1.18 https://t.co/ZBfoAFqHjw | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #git #freesw | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Gitter, git-cinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and GitHub's Atom 1.18 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 13:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub...' | Jun 16 14:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Since Jo Cox was murdered by a...' | Jun 16 14:02 | |
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| schestowitz | As with the "Gartner tax", the idea is that it's a sort of silence/gag tax. You must pay them, otherwise they slam you http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Jun 16 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1cntq ] | Jun 16 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <MinceR> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 14:25 |
| schestowitz | That's actually pretty funny, but not so P-C | Jun 16 14:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 16 14:25 |
| MinceR | i don't insist on being PC :> | Jun 16 14:26 |
| schestowitz | you are anonymous | Jun 16 14:26 |
| MinceR | i am legion | Jun 16 14:27 |
| schestowitz | so you don't forget, you never forgive, either | Jun 16 14:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 16 14:34 |
| oiaohm | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/16/0232247/amazon-granted-a-patent-that-prevents-in-store-shoppers-from-online-price-checking | Jun 16 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Amazon Granted a Patent That Prevents In-Store Shoppers From Online Price Checking - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r0erk ] | Jun 16 14:35 | |
| oiaohm | Hmm | Jun 16 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Looking like vpn by wifi is going to come more important. | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | >in-store Wi-Fi | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | i have cellular | Jun 16 14:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: next question how long until stores become cellular black spots. | Jun 16 14:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 14:37 |
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| MinceR | next question: how long will said stores have customers after that | Jun 16 14:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I know of a few stores here you are lucky to get half a bar on cellular. | Jun 16 14:38 |
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| XRevan86 | If I will be travelling and somebody will say that my vocabulary is not P-C and that offends somebody, I have a possible solution for that: I can say the word "slave" offends me :). | Jun 16 14:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cellphonesignalbooster.us | How To Jam Cell Phone Signal Legally [ http://ur1.ca/r0esi ] | Jun 16 14:43 | |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how many "offendable" words like that are there… | Jun 16 14:43 |
| MinceR | slav? | Jun 16 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep, that's the etymology. | Jun 16 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently there used to be a very big lot of Slav slaves in Western Europe. | Jun 16 14:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 14:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I like the Dalai Lama he has believes that there is no offensive word it is context. So he has searched out as many offensive words then used them in contexts where they are not offensive. | Jun 16 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Which one? | Jun 16 14:45 |
| MinceR | nice | Jun 16 14:46 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: 14th Dalai Lama the current one. | Jun 16 14:46 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I think I heard him saying other cool stuff too. | Jun 16 14:47 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: he has used all of the common swearing words on tv without been censored. | Jun 16 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, they even provide an excuse for blocking cellular signals in stores | Jun 16 14:47 |
| MinceR | how convenient | Jun 16 14:48 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: https://youtu.be/rg4mE1x1luw is that it? | Jun 16 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-His Holiness the Dalai Lama's speech during Sikyong swearing-in ceremony - YouTube | Jun 16 14:48 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I guess they simply wouldn't dare censor him :) | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hm? | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | > MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | ah, this | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The best place to block cellular signals at is of course the one where a political protest is going on %) | Jun 16 15:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 16 15:05 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: the magical tower losing power problem. | Jun 16 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ? | Jun 16 15:16 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: it the one of the common things to see happen. Were like 112 still works with full bars yet on your normal carrier you have nothing. | Jun 16 15:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @adciardelli https://twitter.com/adciardelli/status/875709023059943425 | Jun 16 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The Andrea D. Ciardelli Daily! | Jun 16 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/h31UmJ6wkI (paper.li) Thanks to @mraz_sic | Jun 16 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @unoscribacchino @tuxmachines #palestine #gaza | Jun 16 15:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The Andrea D. Ciardelli Daily | Jun 16 15:27 | |
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| MinceR | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/16/b556344db5e64e89.png | Jun 16 17:59 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/WEu6A4l.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/WEu6A4l ) | Jun 16 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | fear me! fear me! fea... WTF!? why doesn't it fear me? | Jun 16 18:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fear me! fear me! fea... WTF!? why doesn't it fear me? - GIF on Imgur | Jun 16 18:02 | |
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| MinceR | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/361/368/924.jpg | Jun 16 18:26 |
| MinceR | "I don't like gun powder. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." >> http://i.imgur.com/CNAM6s0.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/SahFm ) | Jun 16 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Gun powder art | Jun 16 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hey that's looks cool. Oh wait what is he doi- oooooh - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 18:38 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1843/ | Jun 16 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Opening Crawl | Jun 16 18:53 | |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/dd1-10.jpg | Jun 16 18:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo #freesw #foss #libreoffice...' | Jun 16 19:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 16 19:08 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/nXP4mbJ.jpg | Jun 16 19:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the links, funny | Jun 16 19:52 |
| schestowitz | How to install malicious spying back-doored malware on a USB to trick people into running... #vista10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 16 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | How to Create a Bootable Windows 10 USB on Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0fhs ] | Jun 16 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jun 16 20:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875791554572681216 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wDATfkkmCc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #security | Jun 16 20:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875793078803726336 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Video Performance https://t.co/iZJY81w8sp | Jun 16 20:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) #android #raspi3 #raspi #gnu #linux | Jun 16 20:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Better Video Performance | Jun 16 20:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3...' | Jun 16 20:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Jun 16 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9yaDh4YXy2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 16 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 20:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is...' | Jun 16 20:14 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgrB5P-rDLw | Jun 16 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TS100: The open source Weller-Killer for 50 bucks - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0fiy ] | Jun 16 20:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875797160868147201 | Jun 16 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 20:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 20:29 |
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| MinceR | http://donthitsave.com/comic/2017/06/06/imac-pro | Jun 16 20:37 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875800346941161472 | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch https://t.co/roMTQjYyMd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A look at latest #tails | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #tor | Jun 16 20:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 Stretch | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @gurnaik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875802746791874563 | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 21:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QJ5Gt4reUy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 21:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:02 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 16 21:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That...' | Jun 16 21:14 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/875808812078252032 | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 21:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 21:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875808858278686721 | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV (www.tuxmachines.org) review. | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #solaris #freesw | Jun 16 21:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV...' | Jun 16 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 21:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano https://twitter.com/mmtoscano/status/875810240846938112 | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @adymitruk Very nice to see this! Hope | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland is finally ready for prime time soon, so I can | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have it on #Fedora. :) | Jun 16 21:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875811092253077508 | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 https://t.co/xJuuYNw8pT | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #gnome #gnu #linux | Jun 16 21:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race. | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux will displace everything else. The naysayers will | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | eat their words. | Jun 16 21:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875811794048176128 | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #pixel | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #googlemaps #games #androidauto | Jun 16 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb #android #google #linux #pixel #googlemaps...' | Jun 16 21:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mom a Linux / KDE laptop this weekend. One more user | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rescued from the perils of proprietary (twitter.com) | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software. :D | Jun 16 22:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', #Cars, #Erebus | Jun 16 22:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833145383432192 | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "It's the absolute lack of progress since | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2011" Nice joke :) | Jun 16 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit https://t.co/06pYzL0Z0a (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Events: LinuxCon Beijing 2017, Linux Plumbers Conference 2017, and Diversity Empowerment Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux #PlumbersConference 2017,...' | Jun 16 22:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833415303561216 | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux, and have | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | been so since about 2007" Linux had ZFS with Boot | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environments, Zones, Dtrace since 2007? (twitter.com) | Jun 16 22:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833961779482624 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Then reflect 2 seconds: on the one hand you | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have a dominant system supported by major companies | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called Linux. | Jun 16 22:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834128930885632 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines On the other hand a very modest system | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supported by a few companies, and the distribution | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | maintained by a few volunteers. | Jun 16 22:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834128830275584 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX #freesw #google #voten #opensuco #ura...' | Jun 16 22:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834366139801603 | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Do you still feel that writing an article | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the sake of bashing a modest project with no | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pretention is so enjoyable? | Jun 16 22:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834624131424256 | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung #tizenos #linux #google | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and Android | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:57 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt #samsung #tizenos #linux #google...' | Jun 16 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835243156123648 | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Foundations Team and More https://t.co/0rVnCrCjtQ | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu Foundations Team and More | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835847580450817 | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ansible #gnu #linux #server | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #codenvy #container #anaconda | Jun 16 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG #ansible #gnu #linux #server...' | Jun 16 23:03 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MgbiBTD.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/r/funny/pne56 ) | Jun 16 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's your turn - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/suzettepetillo/status/875836210471501824 | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @suzettepetillo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837255562166273 | Jun 16 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX | Jun 16 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers and Hadoop, Containers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837760057335808 | Jun 16 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm | Jun 16 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 23:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875838603800215552 | Jun 16 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro | Jun 16 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games for #gnu #linuux | Jun 16 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro #games for #gnu #linuux' | Jun 16 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839149454102528 | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #firefox #plasma #gcc #atom | Jun 16 23:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software, KDE, GNOME, Mozilla... | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839403998015489 | Jun 16 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l | Jun 16 23:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted to Phoronix, I don't think that whatever happens to ffmpeg is the scariest thing about Ubuntu. Ubuntu does a lot of things that are just downright stupid /and/or scary, but making the packages more secure by default isn't one of them. I use Fedora because Ubuntu has a disease of NIH and making worse implementations of existing stuff and then making you live with their weird Ubuntu-only bugs for years before finally chuc | Jun 16 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | king their homegrown disaster for what every sane distribution was doing anyway. I said several years ago that ayatana and Unity were a bad idea and would ultimately just end up wasting developer resources, time, and money, but since then, Ubuntu has also thrown away their own display server and their init daemon, and Snappy is probably next. I'd say certainly next looking at the state of support for it outside of Ubuntu. Ubunt | Jun 16 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | u *also* supports Flatpak, but many other distributions only support Flatpak by default, so you can build a bloated Snap image and tell many of your users to add a repository and install Snap themselves or give them a Flatpak and it works everywhere. So, OMG Ubuntu! talked to Ken Vandine of Canonical, and apparently they're going to have to throw away "hundreds" of patches that are never going upstream. | Jun 16 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839985479557120 | Jun 16 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 16 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 16 23:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 16 23:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo #freesw #firefox...' | Jun 16 23:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l' | Jun 16 23:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are a crazy fool. Now China...' | Jun 16 23:22 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+Teardown/92915 | Jun 17 00:12 |
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| cubexyz | I'm sure ifixit thought the surface was a turd | Jun 17 00:36 |
| cubexyz | let's see if I'm right | Jun 17 00:36 |
| cubexyz | yup | Jun 17 00:37 |
| cubexyz | repairability zero out of ten | Jun 17 00:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Champagne in Russia and China today. https://t.co/ArT36zjffg' | Jun 17 01:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thediplomat.com | How Mao Zedong Benefited From the Cuban Missile Crisis | The Diplomat | Jun 17 01:11 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: and it s true zero most of the ones ifixit has historically given zero to there as been at least some way to get it back into one piece. | Jun 17 01:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the new surface laptop no matter the trick you use its stuffed. | Jun 17 01:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and surface like laptops is why airlines are looking to ban laptops. Notice no way to remove/disable battery. | Jun 17 01:28 |
| MinceR | are they going to take apart laptops on the plane or what? | Jun 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | afaict most laptops nowadays don't have an easily removable battery | Jun 17 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Yoga 900 does. | Jun 17 01:35 |
| MinceR | most laptops aren't yoga 900s | Jun 17 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | Flip it over, take out some T4 screws, remove some more T4 screws from the battery, unplug battery, plug new one back in, and put the screws back in. | Jun 17 01:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 01:35 |
| MinceR | are they gonna do that on the plane or at the security checkpoint? | Jun 17 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | I meant you can repair it. | Jun 17 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe you can get an unapproved battery for the Surface, but I hope it doesn't erupt into flames. :) | Jun 17 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | The quality on OEM batteries is usually better. | Jun 17 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 01:37 |
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| TechDefender | schestowitz: hi, are u there? | Jun 17 03:59 |
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| TechDefender | schestowitz: talked to him: u can see the transcripts, too. but if you want to publish a story, you first "must" talk to his expert witnesses & PR team (to get the full story) | Jun 17 04:12 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: any help is appreciated :) | Jun 17 04:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 17 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 17 05:00 | |
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| TechDefender | hey guys, which FOSS font is most compatible with stock MS Office? Liberation San, FreeSans, or something else? | Jun 17 05:52 |
| TechDefender | https://superuser.com/questions/1047514/are-the-liberation-fonts-100-compatible-with-microsoft-office | Jun 17 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superuser.com | Are the Liberation fonts 100% compatible with Microsoft Office? - Super User | Jun 17 05:52 | |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Probably Liberation, yeah. | Jun 17 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat designed those to be metric equivalent to Microsoft fonts. | Jun 17 06:05 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: thanks, Liberation seems to be the Default that LibreOffice uses | Jun 17 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | You could also install the Microsoft fonts package if your distribution offers it. | Jun 17 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | They're older, but they should still be compatible with the Windows versions. | Jun 17 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft once offered them under a non-free redistribution only license to assist MS Office users on Mac. | Jun 17 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Liberation would probably work better though. Just a guess. | Jun 17 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | And those are free. | Jun 17 06:07 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: as long as Liberation works, why install M$ fonts? | Jun 17 06:07 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: which font is used, when an M$ office user, opens an ODF with Liberation Sans (i'm assuming it automatically switches to Arial)? | Jun 17 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | I would expect that it would load the closest font., but I don't use MS Office. | Jun 17 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | Last time I did, it did NOT support the ODF specification correctly. | Jun 17 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | It would still cram an "ODF" file full of Microsoft-isms when you went to save it, and the result was a corrupted "ODF" document that you could only open with MS Office. | Jun 17 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | Although that has been almost ten years. Newer versions of Office might behave differently. | Jun 17 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,35531.0.html | Jun 17 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hydrogenaud.io | new Open Source mp3 Encoder from Helix Community | Jun 17 06:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I remember this one. I think it was under the MIT X11 license. | Jun 17 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | I tried it out. It didn't seem to have any particularly bad failure cases, but LAME was more actively developed and the psy model was the result of an open testing process.. | Jun 17 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | Helix was from Real Networks, and although everything was open source, it was difficult to figure out _why_ it was doing some things the way it did. | Jun 17 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 06:13 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I do know there are a few cases with wine where you must use the MS fonts due to minor issues with replacements. | Jun 17 06:13 |
| TechDefender | k, thanks for explaining | Jun 17 06:13 |
| TechDefender | is there a better link than this to get friends to switch to FOSS fonts, ODF, and eventually LibreOffice? | Jun 17 06:14 |
| TechDefender | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html | Jun 17 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | We Can Put an End to Word Attachments - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/r0hay ] | Jun 17 06:14 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I remember libreoffice testing developer finding that Excel could make a xlsx file that it could not open itself. | Jun 17 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't surprise me. | Jun 17 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | It *is* Microsoft. | Jun 17 06:15 |
| oiaohm | https://flosmind.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/libreoffice-can-open-xlsx-files-excel-cannot/ | Jun 17 06:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flosmind.wordpress.com | LibreOffice can open XLSX files Excel cannot | Florians Mind [ http://ur1.ca/r0hb4 ] | Jun 17 06:15 | |
| oiaohm | This one is wrong. | Jun 17 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Word Documents are sort of a de facto standard by way of there being so many of them. | Jun 17 06:16 |
| oiaohm | Word documents also suffer from crossing version hell. | Jun 17 06:16 |
| oiaohm | even crossing printer hell. | Jun 17 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | We managed to wait out MP3, but the clock is not ticking on MS Office formats because they are constantly changing. | Jun 17 06:16 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really there are a lot of issues with MS Office. | Jun 17 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | That's putting it gently | Jun 17 06:19 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: i think the biggest "issue" is simply convince people to switch to LibreOffice ;) --- which, theoretically, should be easy ó‿ó | Jun 17 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | They can't get it to behave reliably with their own formats, but at least Excel 97 had a flight simulator built into it. | Jun 17 06:19 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office when you are needing to open up old documents libreoffice is really you friend. | Jun 17 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.documentfoundation.org | Feature Comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office - The Document Foundation Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/9s6h8 ] | Jun 17 06:21 | |
| TechDefender | related, is the reason why BluRay is less popular than DVD burners (in new computers) -- solely because of the licensing issues/costs? | Jun 17 06:21 |
| TechDefender | blank BluRays 25GB are now 20 cents | Jun 17 06:22 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thanks for that link, explains a lot | Jun 17 06:24 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: also bluray drives have a higher power burn. http://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html | Jun 17 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buildcomputers.net | Typical Power Consumption of PC Components - Power Draw in Watts | Jun 17 06:24 | |
| TechDefender | unrelated: is there a similar case, anywhere: where someone successfully defended distributing "freeware/demo" versions of programs (like demos, without the product key. for Windows, MS office, Adobe, etc) | Jun 17 06:25 |
| TechDefender | that set a precedent, showing it is allowed? | Jun 17 06:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: 15 to 27 W for DVD drives 25 to 30 W for bluray | Jun 17 06:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: and that power difference adds up in laptops to reducing battery life. | Jun 17 06:26 |
| oiaohm | Yes most power effective DVD vs Bluray is 10W difference what is quite a bit. | Jun 17 06:26 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: wow, i did not know that :) | Jun 17 06:27 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: so its licensing and power | Jun 17 06:27 |
| TechDefender | but i still think the line that Apple gave about using DDR3L vs DDR4 for saving power -- is bullshit ( i think it was about cost) | Jun 17 06:28 |
| oiaohm | DDR4 does use less power for same capacity. | Jun 17 06:28 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: hmmmmmm, i kinda still disagree , cuz 99% of the time BluRay is idle (thereby the same power usage as DVD) | Jun 17 06:29 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.buildcomputers.net/power-consumption-of-pc-components.html if you go to ram section here you will notice DDR1 use more than DDR2 and DDR2 uses more than DDR3 and so on. | Jun 17 06:30 |
| TechDefender | "Optical drives consume just 1.5 to 5 Watts of power during idle, so they add very little to the total power consumption of PC components." | Jun 17 06:30 |
| oiaohm | Note the 1.5-5 watts in idle. | Jun 17 06:30 |
| oiaohm | BluRays have a habit of being more power drawing in idle as well. | Jun 17 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Finer movement of head does result in more power keeping it put. | Jun 17 06:31 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: yeh, IMO Apple just had stockpiled TONS of DDR3L, on the cheap, so that's why they still use it today | Jun 17 06:32 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: don't u like BluRays? the 128GB BluRays should be standard by now!! :P | Jun 17 06:32 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: DDR4 is close to 1.5W | Jun 17 06:33 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Its not that I hate Bluray is more I find its shocking how bad they are. | Jun 17 06:33 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: lot of computer parts are reducing the power they are using and opticial drives are going the other way. | Jun 17 06:34 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: huh? what is bad about 128GB disc? that should be less than $1 soon(tm) | Jun 17 06:34 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.mdisc.com/corporate/ bluray BD-XL does 100GB discs Ok these are not that cheep. | Jun 17 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mdisc.com | Corporate | M-DISC | Jun 17 06:36 | |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-disc stuff is expensive because its stable. Its about 20 dollars a 100GB | Jun 17 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: My whole PC doesn't use 5 watts at idle. | Jun 17 06:37 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thats kinda my side-point, is that BluRay progress has slowed.... it *should* be cheaper/ubiquitious, -- i think another main reason is the software licenses,,, i.e. how hard it is to simply burn to a format that plays correctly in your TV's bluray player | Jun 17 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | 10 hours on the battery, usually. | Jun 17 06:38 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-disc is hardware patent. | Jun 17 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Blu Ray players as in for movies? Only 48% of US households even have one. | Jun 17 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's STANDARD Blu Ray. The UHD Blu Ray is going nowhere at these prices. | Jun 17 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | Strictly enthusiast only. | Jun 17 06:39 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://www.mdisc.com/mdisc-technology/ you pay a lot more for discs that are UV stable. | Jun 17 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mdisc.com | M-DISC Technology | M-DISC | Jun 17 06:40 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: M-Disc are also more heat tollerent than you normal writable media. | Jun 17 06:40 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: maybe i'm just old fashioned, and like burning discs, lol (e.g. it's easy to burn audio CD's for friends, but it is harder to burn BluRay movies for friends) | Jun 17 06:41 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: i can send u those notes about a case, if u want to give me ur opinion? | Jun 17 06:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I am not a lawyer I get stuck doing internal auditing a lot. | Jun 17 06:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: big thing with bluray is digital right management. restricting markets so reducing competition. | Jun 17 06:44 |
| TechDefender | u dont need to be a lawyer :) i'm really looking for somewhere that something similar has happened before (with freeware), it seems u guys know a lot about computer history | Jun 17 06:45 |
| TechDefender | Or looking for someone who can help with PR, etc, even be hired | Jun 17 06:49 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: really there are a long list of things that different people have done wrong with software. | Jun 17 07:18 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I normally deal on open source being open source gives you access to a lot of very expensive assistance very cheaply. | Jun 17 07:19 |
| TechDefender | Yes, i like FOSS too :) i'm just trying to help someone out who is in a bad situation, because he didnt use FOSS, lol | Jun 17 07:21 |
| oiaohm | freeware and shareware are both known for vendor lock-in of give you X software for free then make the next version paid. | Jun 17 07:24 |
| oiaohm | And that action is fully nightmare legal. | Jun 17 07:25 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: if this is a user of software and is freeware he can be stuffed so many way it not funny with no legal options. | Jun 17 07:26 |
| TechDefender | but has anyone ever gotten convicted of distributing 'freeware' or 'shareware' CD's, that is free to download on a website? | Jun 17 07:26 |
| TechDefender | i think this is the first time ever..... | Jun 17 07:27 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I cannot remember the case but I do know one person was done with freeware and shareware. | Jun 17 07:28 |
| TechDefender | charged with 'counterfeiting', even though it is available for free, $0 valuation | Jun 17 07:28 |
| oiaohm | because the license term forbid making any profit | Jun 17 07:29 |
| oiaohm | Hmm | Jun 17 07:29 |
| TechDefender | when i read it, i was screaming at my computer screen, lol,,,, the judge doesn't understand software at ALL | Jun 17 07:29 |
| oiaohm | Counterfeiting is normally not used with freeware cases. | Jun 17 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Its normally copyright or contract for breach of terms in license. | Jun 17 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Counterfeiting with a zero dollar product is that someone else was making another product the same name. | Jun 17 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Now free $0 valuation license may include clause only download from them. | Jun 17 07:33 |
| oiaohm | If that is the case any time you do hand out a copy would be Conterfelting. | Jun 17 07:33 |
| TechDefender | like the free version of Adobe, or Windows, that is free to download, (usually only 'demo' version, which expires, or is crippled after 30days, etc... that is "freeware", right? | Jun 17 07:33 |
| TechDefender | Freeware, since there is no license included (the license is what costs $) | Jun 17 07:34 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: http://modernievirt.blob.core.windows.net/vhd/release_notes_license_terms_1_5_15.pdf This is the license for Microsoft virtual machine images https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ | Jun 17 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.microsoft.com | Free Virtual Machines from IE8 to MS Edge - Microsoft Edge Development [ http://ur1.ca/qfki5 ] | Jun 17 07:35 | |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: that license if I put those on a disc and give to another person I have committed a crime. | Jun 17 07:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the person wanting those images has to download it themselves. | Jun 17 07:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: they might be free but the license terms on them limits how you can distribute them. | Jun 17 07:37 |
| TechDefender | this is confusing... | Jun 17 07:37 |
| oiaohm | This is freeware licensing. | Jun 17 07:37 |
| TechDefender | here is an easy way to explain it, but i don't think the judge will watch a YouTube video ;) | Jun 17 07:38 |
| TechDefender | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeTybKL1pM4 | Jun 17 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copying Is Not Theft - Official Version - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/96ykf ] | Jun 17 07:38 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: that is not the way copyright works. | Jun 17 07:39 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright goes back the the first printing press. Where the author of the work gets it set terms on how stuff can be copied. | Jun 17 07:40 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: some freeware and shareware licenses you can put on a disc and give to who ever you like. But you do have ones like those virtual machine images from Microsoft to testing web browser compadiblity that have nasty restrictions. | Jun 17 07:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: problem is people have got into habit of thinking of all freeware as the same. | Jun 17 07:44 |
| TechDefender | wow, that is frustrating | Jun 17 07:44 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: its like thinking that GPL work and MIT work have the same restrictions because they are both open source licenses. | Jun 17 07:44 |
| TechDefender | and then there is civil vs criminal , which makes it even more complicated | Jun 17 07:45 |
| oiaohm | Where open source we have collecitons of license and fairly much duplicate. Freeware and shareware don't they are a unique license every single time. | Jun 17 07:45 |
| TechDefender | i can PM u a link to some info, if u want to read it. any feedback helps, even just proofreading. | Jun 17 07:46 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: no problems I think this person might walked straight into the trap of Freeware. | Jun 17 07:47 |
| TechDefender | well, M$ has most hardcore freeware | Jun 17 07:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft has multi levels of nasty. | Jun 17 07:49 |
| TechDefender | oh, btw, please don't publish that PM without talking to him first. but he does want to get good press about this eventually | Jun 17 07:51 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/refurbishedpcs I guess he and you don't know about this. | Jun 17 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoft.com | Refurbished PCs | Jun 17 07:51 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: to recycle machines with Microsoft windows on them you are in fact meant to register with Microsoft for free to-do it as an Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher. | Jun 17 07:52 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Of course I will not publish the pm. | Jun 17 07:53 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: Microsoft Authorized Referbisher status means Microsoft will not attack you for particular things. | Jun 17 07:54 |
| TechDefender | thanks. i think you are one of the good guys :) btw, he is happy to talk with you or other experts who are interested in helping, i can give u his email if u want | Jun 17 07:54 |
| TechDefender | i don't know about that "MAS" program, what is the "catch"? (i'll send it to him, thanks) | Jun 17 07:56 |
| TechDefender | *MAR | Jun 17 07:56 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: you have to have a business registeration so you can register for free as a partner. | Jun 17 07:56 |
| oiaohm | So then you can register for MAR> | Jun 17 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Really there is no real catches to it. | Jun 17 07:57 |
| oiaohm | Also it possible to register with dell and hp that you are attempting to recycle old machines. | Jun 17 07:57 |
| oiaohm | This gives you more authorisation todo particular things without end up on wrong side of copyright. | Jun 17 07:58 |
| oiaohm | You know those authorised service agent status. | Jun 17 07:58 |
| oiaohm | in that there is authorised recycler status. | Jun 17 07:59 |
| TechDefender | aw ok. | Jun 17 07:59 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I don't need to email this is basically need to have all you t crossed and all you i dotted if you don't at times they bite. If you know what you need to dot and cross after you have got caught sometimes you can argue | Jun 17 07:59 |
| oiaohm | Opps I did not know I will from now on have all my paper in order that would allowed me to do all that stuff for free anyhow so please judge drop the costs. | Jun 17 08:00 |
| TechDefender | LOL | Jun 17 08:01 |
| TechDefender | :( | Jun 17 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Most of these cases a lot of court time could have been saved if person was just told they need to sign up do these different programs. | Jun 17 08:02 |
| TechDefender | or, if the defendant gets a Jury trial | Jun 17 08:03 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: what I read just looks to me as someone who did not soild avice on what was required. | Jun 17 08:04 |
| TechDefender | but the problem is most defendant opt for plea bargain, in the face of the max sentence....... which is a whole other problem with the court in general | Jun 17 08:04 |
| oiaohm | I have run computer recycling at different times. | Jun 17 08:04 |
| oiaohm | The stack of paper you require makes you so tempted only to provide the computers if they run Linux. | Jun 17 08:04 |
| TechDefender | for sure at least 1 outta 12 Jurors would have voted "no, this is bullshit" :) | Jun 17 08:05 |
| oiaohm | Particularly if everything done is free under the MAR program. | Jun 17 08:05 |
| oiaohm | Or at least a lot cheaper. | Jun 17 08:05 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: never think of freeware/shareware as free until you have read the license on that stuff very carefully. If you cannot find license also know that you could be in big trouble. | Jun 17 08:06 |
| TechDefender | 100 outta 100 Linux users would have voted "not guilty" -- which is why we need more Linux users :P | Jun 17 08:07 |
| oiaohm | That is a very big mistake. | Jun 17 08:07 |
| oiaohm | A large number of open source people who support GPL would look at terms of license and if you breached that rule against you without question. | Jun 17 08:07 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the thing about linux people is lots of them follow licensing absolutely. | Jun 17 08:08 |
| TechDefender | huh?? which Linux user ever sides with M$ in a case like this? | Jun 17 08:08 |
| TechDefender | i thought a lot of them hate M$ *more* absolutely :P | Jun 17 08:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes because license terms were there to be checked. And if copyright or contract get weakened the ablity to use GPL to get code out of hardware vendors will get reduced as well. | Jun 17 08:09 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: a lot of people make this mistake. Linux people like free with correct license and obey license terms were they can. | Jun 17 08:10 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: a lot of reasons why Linux people are lInux people is they read the Microsoft EULA and went hell on. | Jun 17 08:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: opps this should be the end 'read the Microsoft EULA and went hell no' | Jun 17 08:12 |
| TechDefender | "if copyright or contract get weakened the ability to use GPL to get code out of hardware vendors will get reduced as well. " i dont really agree with that | Jun 17 08:13 |
| TechDefender | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/supreme-court-makes-it-much-harder-for-patent-trolls-to-sue-in-east-texas/ | Jun 17 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Supreme Court makes it much harder for patent trolls to sue in East Texas | Ars Technica | Jun 17 08:13 | |
| TechDefender | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/supreme-court-strikes-down-federal-circuit-again-limits-lexmark-patent-rights/ | Jun 17 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Supreme Court overturns Lexmark’s patent win on used printer cartridges | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/r0hqm ] | Jun 17 08:13 | |
| TechDefender | here are 2 perfect examples, of why ur wrong :P | Jun 17 08:14 |
| TechDefender | eventually, hopefully, someone takes one of the M$ cases to the Supreme Court , and wins (don't u agree?) | Jun 17 08:15 |
| TechDefender | Even simply "cruel & unusual punishment" is enough grounds to win, IMO | Jun 17 08:16 |
| TechDefender | i thought this was #techrights, not #techrestrictions ;) | Jun 17 08:18 |
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| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright and patent laws are different class problems completely. | Jun 17 08:24 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: patents were not meant to be used to allow people to control what happens to their hardware. Just prevent people from duplicating it without a valid license. | Jun 17 08:26 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright is design to control coping and how the item is used. | Jun 17 08:26 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note understanding your rights is key to fighting for more rights. No point fighting for right you already have unless someone is attempting to remove them. | Jun 17 08:28 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: so are you for both Software Patents & Software Copyright? (i though most Linux/FOSS guys are against both) | Jun 17 08:29 |
| TechDefender | https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman | Jun 17 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikiquote.org | Richard Stallman - Wikiquote [ http://ur1.ca/ohhrh ] | Jun 17 08:30 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software patents don't make very much sense. Particularly that a person can have a patent let you exploit it for 18 years then tell you about it and demard payment for the past 18 years. | Jun 17 08:30 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software copyright if every thing is done right you should know about it when you get the software. | Jun 17 08:31 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: GPL license depends on copyright and contract law to exist. | Jun 17 08:31 |
| TechDefender | which software program's patent is the 18 year one? | Jun 17 08:31 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: software patents are valid for 20 years from the date of issue. | Jun 17 08:32 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: you are not required to public tell anyone that a bit of software you release is using a patent. | Jun 17 08:32 |
| TechDefender | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Why_abolish_software_patents | Jun 17 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why abolish software patents - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) [ http://ur1.ca/r0ht2 ] | Jun 17 08:34 | |
| TechDefender | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Software_patents_wiki:_home_page | Jun 17 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.swpat.org - The Software Patents Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/91gjq ] | Jun 17 08:34 | |
| DaemonFC | It's better to not even research if you're violating a patent. | Jun 17 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | If they can prove that you knew and did it anyway, there's much higher potential damages. | Jun 17 08:35 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: yes DaemonFC is right if you knew about a patent you breach it damages times 3 at least. | Jun 17 08:36 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: yeh, a lot of 'crimes' are similar. e.g. Driving on "susepended license" they FIRST have to PROVE u *knew* it was suspended. | Jun 17 08:36 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 is a class one in 1991 how to do MP3 was release with source samples in 1998 the person with patents decide it was a nice time to charge everyone for using the patents. | Jun 17 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 - Wikipedia | Jun 17 08:36 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please not that is the same person who released the source samples. | Jun 17 08:37 |
| TechDefender | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea | Jun 17 08:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mens rea - Wikipedia | Jun 17 08:37 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note that is the same person who released the source samples to mp3. | Jun 17 08:37 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the way patents are used you can think of them almost like blackmail. Get you using something and dependant on it then charge the heck out of you. | Jun 17 08:38 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note with patents it not proving that you knew it was patented. It proving that you used it so you are liable. as well. | Jun 17 08:41 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: copyright is more sane. | Jun 17 08:42 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: swpat.org provides the arguments much better than i can. :) | Jun 17 08:43 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: please note patents are not copyright. | Jun 17 08:43 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: is there any changes u would make to his answers, in that PM, i sent? | Jun 17 08:43 |
| TechDefender | he is going to do interviews for news stations | Jun 17 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | TechDefender: Maybe some places, but they don't have to prove it anywhere I've lived. | Jun 17 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | You get the suspension letter lost in the mail and keep driving, it makes difference. | Jun 17 08:44 |
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| DaemonFC | My mom got her license suspended for a year and didn't know it until she got a letter in the mail saying she could renew it. She had been driving the whole time. | Jun 17 08:44 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the pm described a copyright problem. Where there is a license there and you are expect to know about it. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | Well, everything is copyrighted even without a license attached. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | If there's no license, you should automatically assume it's nonfree. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: yes, but he also, has to deal with PR, (aka, the "court of public opinion") | Jun 17 08:46 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: as DeamonFC said with copyright. The rule is no found license no rights to-do anything. | Jun 17 08:46 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: i can send u the PM too, as long as u don't publish it | Jun 17 08:47 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: oh, i can send u the actual transcripts too, if u want | Jun 17 08:48 |
| TechDefender | actually the "PR" side of it, might turn out to be *more important* than the "legal" side of it. | Jun 17 08:58 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really we have fairly much covered the basics. The next is sit down with a good legal team. | Jun 17 09:02 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: PR when it comes to license enforcement all Microsoft cares is that they win and then they can publish that to scare others off. | Jun 17 09:02 |
| TechDefender | like if Aaron Schwartz, had a better PR, etc, that might have been more important than legal team ( i still can't believe that MIT let it go that far) | Jun 17 09:03 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really the more media coverage the harder Microsoft will fight. | Jun 17 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875977780537819136 | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: he has a legal team, not sure how 'good' they are | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange These people are advised by the "Pentagon"...' | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: well, the silver lining it, this kinda stuff "scares" more people to switch to Linux | Jun 17 09:07 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange These people are advised by...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the Russians' claims....' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes and drone...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| TechDefender | unrelated: is a 40" 4K TV a good choice for a monitor? | Jun 17 09:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes...' | Jun 17 09:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875990810898173952 | Jun 17 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 09:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race....' | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my...' | Jun 17 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux,...' | Jun 17 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | [04:12] <TechDefender> schestowitz: talked to him: u can see the transcripts, too. but if you want to publish a story, you first "must" talk to his expert witnesses & PR team (to get the full story) | Jun 17 09:51 |
| schestowitz | not in written form? | Jun 17 09:52 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: heyyy | Jun 17 09:58 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: what kind of story do you want to do? | Jun 17 09:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i can give you his email, if you want | Jun 17 09:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is planning on doing press stuff | Jun 17 09:59 |
| schestowitz | introducing the case maybe | Jun 17 10:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he prefers talking on the phone (Signal app) | Jun 17 10:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i came here, because i'm thinking you guys are experts in this kind of stuff. I'm not an expert, i'm just into FOSS, etc | Jun 17 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002195073884161 | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian #GNU #Linux 8.8 | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jessie, but Ditches #systemd | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DvEgCIjI8X (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.8 Jessie, but Ditches systemd | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002490680053761 | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.08, Arrives August 17 https://t.co/8N5NHAOFxr | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications 17.08, Arrives August 17 | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he has a PR team, that he was supposed to send me contact list for, but he is stressed out, so maybe he forgot. I'm just trying to help, because i support his cause | Jun 17 10:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 17 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 10:08 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks again for helping recommend experts. | Jun 17 10:14 |
| schestowitz | Zuckerberg's brainwash experiments (for paying clients) a step up http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/facebook-to-venture-into-scripted-television-with-comedy-series/article18990743.ece https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/facebook-chases-tv-s-70-billion-stash-with-its-own-video-series recall http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks | Jun 17 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Facebook to venture into scripted television with comedy series - The Hindu [ http://ur1.ca/r0i85 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Chases TV’s $70 Billion Stash With Its Own Video Series - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/r0i86 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gawker.com | Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks' [ http://ur1.ca/1mgo6 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/8fqBTWd69l | Jun 17 10:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876011744421871616 | Jun 17 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 10:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Leftovers: #Solus. #OBS, and #Unixstickers https://t.co/pZxdDFBtUU #suse #opensuse...' | Jun 17 11:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Solus. OBS, and Unixstickers | Tux Machines | Jun 17 11:07 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Your friend @jeremycorbyn has written...' | Jun 17 11:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Your friend @jeremycorbyn has written to May...' | Jun 17 12:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeed.com | The Man Who Warned Of The "Catastrophic" Fire Risk At Grenfell Tower Almost Died In The Blaze | Jun 17 12:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @jeremycorbyn #grenfell 'Whistleblower' dead: https://t.co/pPXsFA1Ba0 Theresa May's...' | Jun 17 12:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Shameless Tory council leader blames Grenfell Tower block residents for lack of sprinklers claiming they didn't want 'disruption' - Mirror Online | Jun 17 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: at your convenient, pass us information we can publish | Jun 17 12:19 |
| schestowitz | with links, quotes, etc. | Jun 17 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to publish something that you would later state harmed the case | Jun 17 12:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i really appreciate that | Jun 17 12:20 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he is finalizing something to publish soon, similar to what i sent u. | Jun 17 12:21 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: if you have any input that could help out, please let me know. U can email him directly if you want, but he is busy and stressed out dealing with all of this | Jun 17 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/ktngifJxR1 | Jun 17 12:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876058262994649088 | Jun 17 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Packages and #Security Fixes | Jun 17 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OarU4KIVhZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Packages and Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Jun 17 13:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Slackware Packages and #Security Fixes https://t.co/OarU4KIVhZ #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 13:56 | |
| MinceR | http://comicpress.socksandpuppets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/681align1.jpg | Jun 17 13:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Noam Chomsky on Moral Relativism and Michel...' | Jun 17 13:57 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/lE4WuVq.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/JYkwp ) | Jun 17 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Accio Lightning Storm amirite? | Jun 17 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Suddenly my life feels very dull - Album on Imgur | Jun 17 15:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876084593685913601 | Jun 17 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Recent and Older #Qt and #KDE News, #Development | Jun 17 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eMeoCrKPVI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 17 15:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gsoc | Jun 17 15:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876085397557850113 | Jun 17 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | older howtos https://t.co/nQVqhQftty | Jun 17 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) catchup with what was missed this | Jun 17 15:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | past month | Jun 17 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | older howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 17 15:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/djOXw | Jun 17 16:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876086619639513088 | Jun 17 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Recent and Older #Qt and #KDE News, #Development | Jun 17 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/eMeoCrKPVI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 17 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #programming #gsoc | Jun 17 16:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876093748681347072 | Jun 17 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba | Jun 17 16:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 16:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.6.2 released | Alpine Linux | Jun 17 16:07 | |
| MinceR | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: o_0 | Jun 17 16:10 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited '#AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 16:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876096087291023362 | Jun 17 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Jun 17 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qqjXYKV0iJ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 17 16:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AlpineLinux 3.6.2 released https://t.co/m1PTFZgLba #gnu #linux' | Jun 17 16:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In...' | Jun 17 16:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876096754520915970 | Jun 17 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported | Jun 17 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for at Least 2 Years https://t.co/FE7WaktDo1 | Jun 17 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #linux | Jun 17 16:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported for at Least 2 Years | Tux Machines | Jun 17 16:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 16:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @VlmHardy retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 16:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @NewsCoverUp retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 16:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Bloody #tories #MayOut #toriesOut https://t.co/QTmPIDeuUU...' | Jun 17 16:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @Snowden Bloody #tories #MayOut #toriesOut https://t.co/QTmPIDeuUU | Jun 17 16:36 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden June needs to be the end of...' | Jun 17 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Looks like a computer game | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | the wheel would not be in flames on a loose human arm in an alley | Jun 17 16:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | but it still looks impressively real | Jun 17 16:50 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/85oYdOO.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/yjPb7 ) | Jun 17 16:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden June needs to be the...' | Jun 17 17:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 17:17 | |
| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/G4Iu1.jpg | Jun 17 17:17 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel...' | Jun 17 17:22 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/YFRWwXQ.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/YFRWwXQ ) | Jun 17 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | This is the new shit! | Jun 17 17:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This is the new shit! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 17 17:24 | |
| schestowitz | what's with the cat? | Jun 17 17:27 |
| schestowitz | just caturday? | Jun 17 17:27 |
| schestowitz | the sun bear meme is good | Jun 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I heard similar things | Jun 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | playing the ate/hate ambiguity (phonetically) | Jun 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | it's also funny that they use sun bear meme because they're known or notorious for having eaten... their own feces in Indonesia | Jun 17 17:30 |
| MinceR | unusually photogenic one | Jun 17 17:51 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 17 18:16 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 17 18:16 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aOac6Wc.jpg | Jun 17 18:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The struggles of a Amazon delivery driver | Jun 17 19:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 just pulled in a new systemd... | Jun 17 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like they don't exactly just use the version it says it is. They cherry pick fixes from the development branch and backport them. | Jun 17 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't document everything they fixed, but just gave a general summary. | Jun 17 21:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 21:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Roxanne_Rees/status/876174505563041792 | Jun 17 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Roxanne_Rees: @schestowitz I'm sorry, are the Labour Party any more collective right now? Neither party won a majority let's be realistic! | Jun 17 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convince it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convinced (arrogantly) it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 21:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 21:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no need to troll, we have activity regardless | Jun 17 21:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR troll no its true | Jun 17 21:32 |
| sebsebseb | you love going on about system d and apple, so you love them | Jun 17 21:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Corbyn was never a fan of it....' | Jun 17 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 17 21:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Corbyn was never a fan...' | Jun 17 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Put in perspective, that is about 100...' | Jun 17 21:45 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F1PPrb0.jpg | Jun 17 21:54 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <sebsebseb> DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 22:21 |
| schestowitz | and it's not even so funny.. | Jun 17 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | systemd has a lot of bugs. | Jun 17 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | They seem to be growing faster than they are being fixed. | Jun 17 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pulling in so many features under one umbrella has likely led to mission creep. | Jun 17 22:23 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: most distros gone to system d | Jun 17 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html | Jun 17 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.de | The Biggest Myths | Jun 17 22:25 | |
| MinceR | most distros are garbage | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | " In fact, many of these binaries[1] are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd, too." | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use udev without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use a lot of things without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Or at least a shim that makes them think they're using systemd. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | "A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic. What is different from prior solutions however, is that we ship more components in a single tarball, and maintain them upstream in a single repository with a unified release cycle." | Jun 17 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't this undercut the BSD user complaint that Linux is a pile of packages that are not developed together? | Jun 17 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | That, according to them, made BSD "better" because the core operating system was all developed by a single project. | Jun 17 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Then again, many components of a BSD system aren't developed together. It's unlikely that you want a desktop/workstation without a display server, video drivers, a desktop environment, etc. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | And their graphics drivers are a port from Linux! | Jun 17 22:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Put in perspective, that is...' | Jun 17 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | A really really old Linux at that. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD 11.1's Intel/AMD graphics support (kernel part) is from Linux 3.8. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Four years old and they admit in their Wikis that modern chipsets aren't supported at all. | Jun 17 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you want a dumb framebuffer with no graphics acceleration. | Jun 17 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | They don't see it as a problem. Their answer is "Buy an nvidia card and use their proprietary driver.". | Jun 17 22:29 |
| MinceR | what about the other BSDs? | Jun 17 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://judecnelson.blogspot.hu/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html | Jun 17 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-judecnelson.blogspot.hu | Jude's Blog: Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies [ http://ur1.ca/mvjad ] | Jun 17 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure what they're doing, but it's funny that FreeBSD says it's better because it's developed together and then they're going around twinking parts of ancient Linux kernels for hardware support. | Jun 17 22:31 |
| MinceR | what's up with the licensing of those FreeBSD drivers then? | Jun 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 22:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin On Being In The Military - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0kry ] | Jun 17 22:40 | |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Going to pick up dinner. | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, I've seen that one. :) | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Linux kernel Direct Rendering Manager code is under a BSD style license. | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | As part of Linux, it's wrapped with the GPL. | Jun 17 22:43 |
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| MinceR | ic | Jun 17 22:46 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvS2SlJuLp8 | Jun 17 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | cute | Jun 17 23:13 |
| MinceR | lol @ killed in combat | Jun 17 23:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: awesome video | Jun 17 23:31 |
| MinceR | George Carlin On Being In The Military >> https://youtu.be/OJBXKMy5smI?t=10s | Jun 17 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin On Being In The Military - YouTube | Jun 17 23:38 | |
| MinceR | oops, not here :) | Jun 17 23:38 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/8bef97100b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-12 ) | Jun 11 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robot Reincarnates - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-12 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 00:03 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How do people in Hungary usually write dates? | Jun 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | in y-m-d order, dunno what separator | Jun 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | as i switched to - ages ago | Jun 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | i think they're supposed to use .-s | Jun 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: nice :) | Jun 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | > yyyy. mm. (d)d. | Jun 11 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | Wikipedia states it's like that | Jun 11 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it means dots | Jun 11 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country | Jun 11 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Date format by country - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzhvs ] | Jun 11 00:07 | |
| XRevan86 | In Russia people usually do DD.MM.YYYY or DD.MM.YY | Jun 11 00:07 |
| MinceR | then it's probably correct | Jun 11 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Uncool, dashes are the way, yeah. | Jun 11 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | The Wikipedia's article shows once again an interesting trend | Jun 11 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | of the US doing their own thing, and that thing being less rational than the far more common thing | Jun 11 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | Like with Fahrenheit for temperature (except science) and pounds, miles, etc. for mass and length (except science). | Jun 11 00:15 |
| MinceR | aren't pounds, miles, etc. leftovers from before the SI system was invented? | Jun 11 00:16 |
| MinceR | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/357/900/1cd.jpg | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Indeed, they are, the British older units of measure | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But the US are the ones who do their best to keep them around :) | Jun 11 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | Although British and Australians kinda do too | Jun 11 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | but not on the level of the government | Jun 11 00:18 |
| MinceR | the more insane thing is hungarians insisting on using the . as a time separator too | Jun 11 00:19 |
| MinceR | no clocks do that | Jun 11 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Do Hungarians like Russians? | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | i guess they do | Jun 11 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: If not, tell 'em we use dots in dates | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | since the majority voted for the putin-style dictator | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | and along with it, increasing russian influence on hungary | Jun 11 00:20 |
| MinceR | including the outrageously horrific conditions of the paks2 deal | Jun 11 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What's that? | Jun 11 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Okay, then tell 'em Russia has a GOST mirroring the ISO standard with YYYY-MM-DD | Jun 11 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | DD.MM.YYYY is also somewhere in GOSTs, but definitely no YYYY.MM.DD | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | building another block for the hungarian nuclear power plant, with giving all the control over the russians, including exclusively buying the fuel from them, etc. | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | and including a horrible loan deal | Jun 11 00:23 |
| MinceR | massive national security risks | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | giving all the control over the russians? | Jun 11 00:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | Does Hungary have control over me now? | Jun 11 00:24 |
| MinceR | over to the russians | Jun 11 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That is a pretty serious deal. | Jun 11 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why I haven't heard about it. Would have been a pretty glorious local news article "Russia can! Russia capable!" | Jun 11 00:27 |
| MinceR | i guess putler's media didn't want to brag about subverting a nearly insignificant state they only use for spying on and lobbying inside the EU and the NATO | Jun 11 00:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn He may never come here https://t.co/FmjamZHy0n' | Jun 11 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petition.parliament.uk | Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom. - Petitions | Jun 11 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn He may never come here...' | Jun 11 14:53 | |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/xwlb42y2nx2z.gif | Jun 11 14:56 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/BarnabyEdwards/status/873246062932369409 | Jun 11 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 15:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BarnabyEdwards: This is why I love Twitter. https://t.co/2bKtlFZNXS | Jun 11 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: from that same complilation of lame UX for volume controol? | Jun 11 15:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #trumpOut and soon #MayOut - his BFF....' | Jun 11 15:05 | |
| MinceR | not from that dump, but on the same topic | Jun 11 15:09 |
| schestowitz | I c... | Jun 11 15:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/PlebianPrime/status/873906576075231233 | Jun 11 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PlebianPrime: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Don… https://t.co/0eK7vyBI8G | Jun 11 15:18 | |
| schestowitz | Prove their terrorists you babbling desperate mumble crust. Saudi arabia is a state. Dont tarnish you all say. Then i want every arab gone."" | Jun 11 15:18 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_Saudi_role_in_September_11_attacks | Jun 11 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 11 15:18 | |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/bfd522c01bb90135b144005056a9545d (gallery: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-30 ) | Jun 11 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wally Has A Doctor's Note - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-30 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 15:46 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the Arabia problem is part the usage of militia | Jun 11 15:46 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/05/01/520183/Yemen-AlQaeda-AQAP-Qasim-alRimi-Saudi-Arabia-US-UN-Houthis-Hadi-Hudaydah It this stuff that make your go what in heck. | Jun 11 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.ir | PressTV-'Al-Qaeda fights alongside US, S Arabia in Yemen' [ http://ur1.ca/qzkup ] | Jun 11 15:52 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: trumps call to not support terrorist groups is a very big issue in the Arabia area. When a terrorist group will fight on the side the political wants they get paid then wonder why down the track they turn around and bite them. | Jun 11 15:53 |
| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/article/encryption-leaves-authorities-not-in-a-good-place-former-us-intelligence-chief/ Lets ask for the impossible. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encryption leaves authorities 'not in a good place': Former US intelligence chief | ZDNet | Jun 11 15:58 | |
| oiaohm | You cannot have encryption that protects privacy and a back door. | Jun 11 15:58 |
| cubexyz | write your own :) | Jun 11 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873918151720919041 | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Professional #Audio Production https://t.co/Cs84rAsNSt | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #multimedia #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 11 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 11 16:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional Audio Production | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may These people are all closeted bigots....' | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI | Jun 11 16:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jun 11 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks for the links | Jun 11 16:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may https://t.co/Ybvm2clRgI' | Jun 11 16:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KXStudio 14.04.5 Linux Distribution Released for Professional #Audio...' | Jun 11 16:11 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I don't understand http://i.imgur.com/jdSL61S.gifv | Jun 11 16:14 |
| schestowitz | massive tetris | Jun 11 16:14 |
| MinceR | the point is the end | Jun 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it gets clipped for me | Jun 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | where the player deliberately places the piece off to the side, instead of in the hole? :> | Jun 11 16:16 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/BfQJ4 | Jun 11 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glad you made this far. Here's some more! - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 16:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873924899412336640 | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 16:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You Run Windows Virus Free | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:29 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I still don't get it | Jun 11 16:30 |
| schestowitz | some taste of art? | Jun 11 16:30 |
| MinceR | annoying people with OCD tendencies, i guess | Jun 11 16:31 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its one of those odd games. Its there are some really old rule variations to tetris | Jun 11 16:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 16:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873927425465483269 | Jun 11 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 16:39 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/c3af67201bb90135b144005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-02 ) | Jun 11 16:39 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 11 16:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873930244226469888 | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Distributions News: #MX 16.1, #Clonezilla, #PorteusKiosk | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.4.0, and #openSUSE #Tumbleweed https://t.co/xj7LsAXOq2 | Jun 11 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 11 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distributions News: MX-16.1, Clonezilla, Porteus Kiosk 4.4.0, and openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 11 16:50 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 11 17:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Distributions News: #MX 16.1, #Clonezilla, #PorteusKiosk 4.4.0, and...' | Jun 11 17:01 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/GxNJN | Jun 11 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Eternal Struggle for the Immature - Album on Imgur | Jun 11 17:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SecurityNews6/status/873933220819066880 | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers https://t.co/oWDJLZU9MS | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SecurityNews6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #security #debian #raspi | Jun 11 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #android #samba | Jun 11 17:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/873935038676709377 | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME News (and Olds): #GNOME3 Pimping, This week in | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, and Older News https://t.co/oQPvvoqs7L | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gtk #gnu #linux | Jun 11 17:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/mnG7qwzy3M | Jun 11 17:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 11 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 11 17:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/873937047685406721 | Jun 11 17:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Run Windows Virus Free https://t.co/yKguEBdAeJ | Jun 11 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #windows | Jun 11 17:20 |
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| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: DUP | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: SystemD | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Linux | Jun 11 18:17 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Fedora Core 1 Man ! | Jun 11 18:18 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: microsoft | Jun 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz | WHAT? | Jun 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | f* dat | Jun 11 18:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NAUgCm-3Tc | Jun 11 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Louis C.K. Faggot, Cunt, Nigger - YouTube | Jun 11 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @manpageio favourited '#Ubuntu -driven #TurtleBot gets a major rev with...' | Jun 11 18:23 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes DUP | Jun 11 18:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 18:24 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: interesting times aye | Jun 11 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft Ubuntu bash shell in Windows 10 | Jun 11 18:25 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: WannaCry | Jun 11 18:31 |
| MinceR | http://index.hu/mindekozben/poszt/2017/06/10/kiderult_donald_trump_donald_kacsa_megforditva/ | Jun 11 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-index.hu | Index - Mindeközben - Kiderült: Donald Trump = Donald kacsa megfordítva | Jun 11 18:33 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep NHS spyware adwaare malware | Jun 11 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but UK sucks for IT in general so | Jun 11 18:36 |
| cubexyz | just general badware | Jun 11 18:50 |
| cubexyz | that includes lots of just plain bad hardware too | Jun 11 18:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/1lkra3s3e13z.png | Jun 11 18:53 |
| cubexyz | I never did get a straight answer from intel about which CPUs didn't have Intel ME | Jun 11 18:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Robolinux Project Announces New Releases That Let You...' | Jun 11 19:01 | |
| cubexyz | it's stuff like this that makes me think about vax and amiga | Jun 11 19:03 |
| cubexyz | there's some talk about using a 2nd nic | Jun 11 19:04 |
| cubexyz | don't use the one on the motherboard | Jun 11 19:04 |
| cubexyz | I heard the intel me isn't located on the CPU die | Jun 11 19:08 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F306ilg.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/F306ilg ) | Jun 11 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I am Death! Feel my wrath! | Jun 11 19:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I am Death! Feel my wrath! - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 19:13 | |
| MinceR | it makes me think about FPGA-based cpus | Jun 11 19:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it has been located in the Northbridge chip | Jun 11 19:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.coreboot.org/Intel_Management_Engine | Jun 11 19:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Intel Management Engine - coreboot | Jun 11 19:16 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_Controller_Hub the scary point is ME can run and do network connectivity with no x86 CPU chip on the motherboard. | Jun 11 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Platform Controller Hub - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzlo4 ] | Jun 11 19:17 | |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, What's your take on the BSD approach to systemd? | Jun 11 20:20 |
| MinceR | launchd? | Jun 11 20:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They seem to be writing stub services that redirect systemd functionality to the native services. | Jun 11 20:21 |
| DaaemonFC | They have enough stubs to get recent versions of GNOME and KDE running. | Jun 11 20:21 |
| MinceR | so they'll support poettering's shitty dbus APIs? i don't like it | Jun 11 20:21 |
| MinceR | those APIs should die | Jun 11 20:22 |
| MinceR | preferably along with dbus | Jun 11 20:22 |
| DaaemonFC | The idea is that the program is fooled into believing systemd is there, but it isn't. | Jun 11 20:22 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess it's easier to do that than port the software without systemd support. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| DaaemonFC | Seems kind of gross, but I suspect Devuan is doing something similar. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The Lumina Desktop does not use systemd, dbus, or any of that. | Jun 11 20:23 |
| MinceR | well, it's better than letting cancerd run | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | and no, devuan does not do this | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | What do they do? | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | How are they avoiding it? | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | it disables compile-time options to depend on cancerd | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | and the default desktop is xfce, which doesn't depend on cancerd | Jun 11 20:25 |
| DaaemonFC | Oh, well. | Jun 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | i don't think anyone cared about running gnome or kde enough to patch them | Jun 11 20:26 |
| DaaemonFC | From what I can tell, Lumina is written in Qt and uses Fluxbox as the window manager. | Jun 11 20:26 |
| DaaemonFC | The Lumina code is licensed under the 3 clause BSD license. | Jun 11 20:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Some Linux distributions offer it as well, but Fedora doesn't have it. | Jun 11 20:27 |
| DaaemonFC | Speaking of licenses, I think that as of 3.24, all of GNOME is now using GPL3+ or LGPL3+. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME Web switched from GPL2+ this release. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | The more code switches to the newer GPL, the better, especially since Canonical is so hostile with licensing. | Jun 11 20:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They haven't named names, but they said that basing a distribution on Ubuntu's packages is illegal even if you strip them of Ubuntu's copyright. | Jun 11 20:29 |
| DaaemonFC | So they were implying Linux Mint is pirated without saying it. | Jun 11 20:29 |
| DaaemonFC | Mark Shuttleworth came out and said that they made this policy because some "shoddy distributions" were passing themselves off as Ubuntu and hurting their brand. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Whatever that means. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: kind of wrong. Stripping the copyright would be illegal. removing the trademarks is legal. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Matthew Garrett is correct that this makes Ubuntu nonfree. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there are some out there doing the wrong thing with copyright. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | The correct way to protect your brand is with trademark enforcement. | Jun 11 20:30 |
| DaaemonFC | Errr, strip them of Ubuntu's marks I meant. | Jun 11 20:31 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: can you link these statements from canonical? | Jun 11 20:31 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: there have been a few ubuntu forks that have in fact stripped copyright headers. Ie got a little to over active on trademark removal. | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Matthew Garrett's comments: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Ubuntu still isn't free software | Jun 11 20:32 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Original post from Ubuntu: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/45939.html | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | errr | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/12/01/taking-a-stand-against-unstable-risky-unofficial-ubuntu-images/ | Jun 11 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insights.ubuntu.com | Taking a stand against unofficial Ubuntu images | Ubuntu Insights | Jun 11 20:32 | |
| MinceR | thx | Jun 11 20:32 |
| DaaemonFC | "We do not make this move lightly, but have come to the view that the value of Ubuntu to its users rests on these commitments to security, quality and updates." | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | LOL | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | Must be why I STILL can't connect to my Bluetooth stereo system with A2DP for the third Ubuntu release in a row. | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | :) | Jun 11 20:33 |
| DaaemonFC | Works fine in Fedora. | Jun 11 20:34 |
| DaaemonFC | I like Fedora better anyway. | Jun 11 20:34 |
| DaaemonFC | It's surprisingly much more stable than Ubuntu and much more user friendly than Debian, especially considering how new all of the packages tend to be. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: some of those risky distributions have delete sections on the package management that include like what license files are. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| DaaemonFC | The Debian/Ubuntu mindset seems to be that if you don't like what a package is doing, then patch it and never worry about sending the patch upstream or even working with upstream at all. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: so there is some copyright infringment going on due to removing information that should not be removed. | Jun 11 20:35 |
| DaaemonFC | That way you can hve hundreds of packages that don't work like the upstream version and all have their own bugs too! | Jun 11 20:35 |
| DaaemonFC | At least, that's the way it was when I looked last time. And their Ubuntu kernel was carrying nearly 100 patches as of about 4 years ago vs the mainline. It was so bad that if you compiled and used a mainline kernel, you broke things that were supposed to work in Ubuntu. | Jun 11 20:37 |
| DaaemonFC | Again, might have improved. Some of the AppArmor stuff was upstreamed since then and the patches for Upstart's readahead are irrelevant now that they use systemd, which has its own readahead. | Jun 11 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: systemd-readahead has been removed. | Jun 11 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | since systemd 217 | Jun 11 20:39 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: Debian policy rules do say that patches are meant to be sent up stream. Debian does have issues with maintainers not always following the rules. Ubuntu does not have that policy. | Jun 11 20:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Fedora doesn't carry its own patches unless it's going to be upstreamed very soon. | Jun 11 20:42 |
| MinceR | the only thing canonical is committed to is not doing any work other than putting their branding on debian | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | Pretty much every package is vanilla or with as few patches as possible. | Jun 11 20:42 |
| DaaemonFC | I'm not entirely thrilled with the Wayland by default. It's still not ready. | Jun 11 20:44 |
| DaaemonFC | Most of the problems are with XWayland. | Jun 11 20:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The performance is pretty bad with XWayland and some bugs with touch and things like that. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| DaaemonFC | The overhead is sufficient that many games become unplayable when you run them like that, but there's a GNOME on Xorg session. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| DaaemonFC | I feel like that's going to be there for a while as a crutch until XWayland performance gets a lot better. | Jun 11 20:45 |
| MinceR | games will never work right if they stick to their commitment to enforcing vsync at all times | Jun 11 20:46 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, That's one of the problems, yeah. | Jun 11 20:46 |
| DaaemonFC | It's better to just drop frames if you have to. | Jun 11 20:47 |
| DaaemonFC | The stuttering from trying to use vsync is much worse. | Jun 11 20:47 |
| DaaemonFC | brb | Jun 11 20:48 |
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| DaaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5h2uvg/wayland_bad_for_gaming/ | Jun 11 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Wayland - bad for gaming? : linux_gaming | Jun 11 20:50 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Apparently, you can work around some of the problems, at least with games that use SDL. | Jun 11 20:50 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Oddly enough, Microsoft forces vsync on when you run a game that you bought in the Windows Store. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | So you get the same problem there. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Surprised that people who bought Gears of War 4 weren't angrier about that. | Jun 11 20:52 |
| MinceR | which one took it from the other? | Jun 11 20:52 |
| DaaemonFC | Well, Wayland predates the Universal Windows Platform. | Jun 11 20:53 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Also, games in the Windows Store can't use SLI/Crossfire. | Jun 11 20:54 |
| DaaemonFC | So if you have dual graphics cards, it will only use one of them. | Jun 11 20:55 |
| DaaemonFC | There are really awful limitations on Windows Store apps and Microsoft wonders why they can't get any big name third party titles on it instead of on Steam. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | It's going to take Microsoft years to sort through this Windows Store mess to the point where they've caught up with Steam, if it ever happens. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | Steam has the advantage of being cross platform too, so there's that. | Jun 11 20:56 |
| DaaemonFC | If you buy a game that is cross-platform and then later switch to Mac or Linux, it should keep working. | Jun 11 20:57 |
| DaaemonFC | When you get a Windows app, it only works on Windows. | Jun 11 20:57 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 11 20:57 |
| DaaemonFC | I mean, technically the developer could release an AppX package and tell you how to enable sideloading, assuming your Windows SKU allows you to do that. | Jun 11 20:58 |
| MinceR | apparently it doesn't even work on windows | Jun 11 20:58 |
| DaaemonFC | But Windows still won't allow an AppX to be installed unless it's signed with your developer key, issued by Microsoft or one of their supported CAs. | Jun 11 20:58 |
| DaaemonFC | I suppose....that Wine could be made to allow AppX installs and ignore the signing requirement, but....You'd still have to get the developer to release an AppX package. Or maybe use the pirate bay as your app store. :) | Jun 11 20:59 |
| MinceR | i wonder which DirectSuX version will be the first one that's limited to winblows store crApps | Jun 11 20:59 |
| MinceR | to force game developers into the store | Jun 11 21:00 |
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| XRevan86 | > it only works on Windows | Jun 11 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | DaaemonFC: Like… on Windows 7? :) | Jun 11 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | So there's also that: it only works on Windows 10 even, not just only on Windows. | Jun 11 21:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: codeweavers did get windows store app to run on wine but thing you run into a legal hell. Sideloading store applications is not in fact permitted. | Jun 11 21:02 |
| oiaohm | DaaemonFC: and of course Microsoft does not make a MIcrosoft store for wine. | Jun 11 21:03 |
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| DaaemonFC | MinceR, You don't have to be a UWP app to use the latest DirectX for now. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | I think they'd be sued massively for that. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | You do have to be a UWP app if you want access to EdgeHTML, otherwise you have to use Trident to render web pages. | Jun 11 21:12 |
| DaaemonFC | You could bundle Xulrunner, I guess, but that makes your app bigger. Also, how much longer will that work with the "overhaul" being done on Firefox. | Jun 11 21:13 |
| MinceR | for now. | Jun 11 21:13 |
| MinceR | you could use Blink instead | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | but it wouldn't be nearly as broken as EdgeHTML or Trident | Jun 11 21:14 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, EdgeHTML reports that it is Blink. | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | and since your first ideas were to use one of those, you probably wanted your app to be broken | Jun 11 21:14 |
| MinceR | that doesn't make it Blink | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | it's just IE pretending to be Blink | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | And Microsoft says that any rendering differences are bugs that it wants to fix. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Yeah, but their goal is compatibility with Blink. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | sure it is | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Fake it til you make it. | Jun 11 21:15 |
| MinceR | microsoft never lies! | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | B-) | Jun 11 21:15 |
| DaaemonFC | Firefox is, sadly, still the de facto browser on Linux. | Jun 11 21:17 |
| DaaemonFC | Google has no intention of becoming anything resembling a proper upstream with Chromium. | Jun 11 21:17 |
| DaaemonFC | They've left most of the Linux packaging issues closed with WONTFIX and so Chromium from your distribution has to bring in hundreds of MB of "chromium-liba", and Chrome is worse. | Jun 11 21:18 |
| MinceR | great | Jun 11 21:18 |
| DaaemonFC | It depends on "Red Hat LSB" which depends on tons of crap that Chrome doesn't even use. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| MinceR | meanwhile palemoon still has some annoying bugs | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, How long has the Firefox bug that makes it unusable with dark themes on Linux been open? | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Longer than I can remember. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | Possibly ~15 years. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | They say a fix has been checked in for Firefox 55. | Jun 11 21:19 |
| DaaemonFC | I'll believe that when I see it. | Jun 11 21:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jun 11 21:21 |
| MinceR | the one that annoys me the most is when it randomly decides not to play animated gifs | Jun 11 21:21 |
| DaaemonFC | It's simply not acceptable to go to install a web browser (Chromium/Chrome) and have your package manager tell you that 500 MB of packages will be installed. | Jun 11 21:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Nice achievements and track record there. Much...' | Jun 11 21:23 | |
| MinceR | it's the natural way of the "modern" web | Jun 11 21:24 |
| MinceR | they keep tacking shit on top of everything that was there before | Jun 11 21:24 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, The guy who develops higan posted a rant about how difficult it is to get a SSL certificate and how the CAs are basically a cartel. | Jun 11 21:26 |
| MinceR | and there isn't much of a point to it anyway | Jun 11 21:26 |
| MinceR | as PKI is laughably vulnerable | Jun 11 21:27 |
| DaaemonFC | He said that browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe, but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 21:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | they'll also happily download and run javascript on your computer | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | without asking you | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure their sandbox is the one piece of software that has no bugs | Jun 11 21:28 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/b1d0101006b4013593f4005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-06-04 ) | Jun 11 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-06-04 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 11 21:30 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/lXGgztG.gif (gallery: https://imgur.com/lXGgztG ) | Jun 11 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 11 21:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Just now · | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | Web browsers are starting to warn people that unencrypted HTTP browsing is unsafe (and the certificate authorities operate as a cartel, requiring hundreds of dollars to sign your domains), but will happily download and run binary apps on your computer. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | I've decided to switch my main browser to GNOME Web with Webkit2-GTK and keep Firefox around for stubborn websites. Nobody is going to test for Web since it has a marketshare of probably 1/1000 people who use the GNOME Desktop Environment on Linux. The fact that it uses Webkit makes it work though, usually, since Webkit is the engine that Safari uses, and it's also what Chrome's Blink engine is based on. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | As an aside, Webkit's origins are from KHTML. The rendering engine used in KDE. At the time Apple forked it (in 2002), they praised KHTML and KJS for coming in at 140,000 source lines of code. After all this "modern web" bullshit, 15 years later, Apple, Google, and other companies have Webkit sitting at 10,383,538 source lines of code. Yes, Apple and Google have managed to bloat Webkit to 74 times its original size in just 15 years. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | It can take 300 MB of RAM to load one tab with Facebook in it, in a "modern web" browser. :( | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | At this point, it's all about which rendering engine is the least bad. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | For GNOME's part, they made a decent browser around the shit sandwich that is Webkit. It reuses code and functionality from GNOME instead of duplicating the code for the browser itself, so it's less of a shit sandwich than Chrome. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | When you go to install Chrome on Linux, your package manager will tell you that 500 MB of garbage is about to be added to your computer. By comparison, everything that Web needs is already in GNOME and GTK. | Jun 11 21:39 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I edited that to include (Is the web 74 times more useful now than it was in 2002?). | Jun 11 21:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 11 21:42 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, "Modern Web" means making it easy for random websites to run programs on your computer that you're not allowed to audit/inspect, etc. | Jun 11 21:43 |
| DaaemonFC | It's becoming a platform for non-free software distribution instead of simply viewing pages and downloading software to use on your computer. | Jun 11 21:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 11 21:44 |
| DaaemonFC | The W3C has allowed a few companies to take over the web and reshape it how a company like Microsoft or Apple sees fit. | Jun 11 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/LPJHQIj.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/LPJHQIj ) | Jun 11 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | The original fidget spinner | Jun 11 21:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The original fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 11 21:48 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Then there's the problem of "premium content". | Jun 11 21:53 |
| DaaemonFC | Widevine | Jun 11 21:53 |
| DaaemonFC | They've turned HTML 5 into everything that was wrong with Flash. | Jun 11 21:54 |
| MinceR | exactly | Jun 11 21:54 |
| DaaemonFC | Including a proprietary DRM module that opens your computer up to attack. Or else, you can't watch Netflix or listen to Spotify. More stuff will break without it in the future. | Jun 11 21:54 |
| MinceR | they'll probably start blocking ordinary text | Jun 11 21:55 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make support for their DRM contingent on removing adblockers or something | Jun 11 21:55 |
| DaaemonFC | Thanks to Chrome's massive market share, they can commit atrocities against the web and its users. Next up is a program called "Funding Choices" which gives an ultimatum to adblock users to disable their ad filters or pay to use websites. | Jun 11 21:57 |
| DaaemonFC | We've seen this sort of stuff before, but more filter lists and userscripts came along to detect the anti-adblock code and disable it, allowing access to the site. Will Funding Choices be as easy to disable? Not if you use Chrome. Google will simply boot any program that's capable of interfering with it out of the Chrome Web Store, and there's nothing you can do about it as long as you use Chrome. | Jun 11 21:59 |
| MinceR | "clouds have made changes" | Jun 11 22:01 |
| MinceR | i see that canonical is also struggling with the english language | Jun 11 22:01 |
| DaaemonFC | I added, "Google's motto used to be "Don't Be Evil!", but you, dear reader, tell me which part of Chrome is good. It's certainly not well designed. It's certainly there to abuse you. It's not going to get any better than it is now. The only way to win the game is to refuse to play it. Uninstall Chrome and use a different browser!" | Jun 11 22:02 |
| MinceR | http://scorpiondagger.tumblr.com/post/160242457753 | Jun 11 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scorpiondagger.tumblr.com | scorpion dagger [ http://ur1.ca/qzm7p ] | Jun 11 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | weird | Jun 11 22:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 11 22:08 |
| MinceR | DaaemonFC: what is canonical's mechanism for enforcing this ban? | Jun 11 22:11 |
| MinceR | presumably copyright, but i can't see it | Jun 11 22:11 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I think they just contacted Amazon and filed a DMCA complaint. | Jun 11 22:12 |
| DaaemonFC | Most web services don't even really investigate the complaint, they just take down your stuff and there's nothing you can do about it, even if the DMCA complaint was completely bogus. | Jun 11 22:13 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 11 22:13 |
| DaaemonFC | Facebook and Youtube are even worse. If they detect any copyrighted sound in your video, they won't let you post it, or disable all sound. | Jun 11 22:13 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Youtube is worse yet. They let anyone file a DMCA complaint and then demand to put ads in your video in exchange for their permission to use the content....Except that people with no copyright to anything file these on random videos to stuff them full of ads. They usually drop their claim if you challenge it. Most people don't, so it's a way of stealing from you. Youtube (Google) doesn't care. | Jun 11 22:15 |
| MinceR | https://www.demilked.com/funny-design-fails/ | Jun 11 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.demilked.com | 10+ Most Hilarious Design Fails By “Crappy Design” [ http://ur1.ca/qzmb1 ] | Jun 11 22:36 | |
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| DaaemonFC | Looks like Fedora still has Banshee Media Player. | Jun 11 23:05 |
| DaaemonFC | The site says the last update was released in 2014. | Jun 11 23:06 |
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| MinceR | spot the differences >> https://www.poolpro.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/2/8/28270_intex-rectangular-frame-pool-7ft-1.jpg http://catalog.saco-ksa.com/ramadan-offers-2017/files/assets/basic-html/page-46.html# | Jun 11 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-catalog.saco-ksa.com | Ramadan Offers 2017 [ http://ur1.ca/qzmf8 ] | Jun 11 23:13 | |
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| MinceR | https://images.discordapp.net/attachments/168113248724320258/323206982624608256/u81F8.jpg | Jun 11 23:44 |
| DaaemonFC | I guess I need to look at my Ogg files and re-encode from Flac any that were encoded with libvorbis before 1.3.2. | Jun 11 23:52 |
| DaaemonFC | xiphmont backed out some AoTuv changes that resulted in sound quality problems. | Jun 11 23:52 |
| DaaemonFC | No wonder he's never merged AoTuv since the last time, many years ago. | Jun 11 23:52 |
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| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/31/bofh_2017_episode_4/ | Jun 11 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: The Boss, the floppy and the work 'experience' • The Register | Jun 11 23:59 | |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, Pale Moon is probably unmanageable anyway. | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaaemonFC | They don't have the resources that Mozilla does, and XUL Add Ons are going to be history soon. | Jun 12 00:26 |
| DaaemonFC | Inevitably, they'll need to fork Firefox from scratch again to get WebExtension support, give up on Pale Moon completely, or try to fork and maintain a few really important XUL extensions themselves. | Jun 12 00:27 |
| DaaemonFC | They're going to creak and clank in other ways too. | Jun 12 00:28 |
| DaaemonFC | They won't have the Wayland support that's going into Firefox without rebasing the patches onto Pale Moon. | Jun 12 00:29 |
| DaaemonFC | That's not trivial. | Jun 12 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | #Infosec Reactions | Jun 12 08:05 |
| schestowitz | https://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/160811148746/how-would-you-describe-your-experience-with #security | Jun 12 08:05 |
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| DaaemonFC | http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/04/brendan_eich_quits_mozilla_let_s_purge_all_the_antigay_donors_to_prop_8.html | Jun 12 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slate.com | Brendan Eich quits Mozilla: Let’s purge all the anti-gay donors to Prop 8. | Jun 12 08:45 | |
| DaaemonFC | I seem to recall people defending the prick. | Jun 12 08:45 |
| DaaemonFC | He put money towards a political campaign designed to deny people civil rights and was dumb enough to think that nobody would ever notice that his name and donation were public records because of campaign finance laws? | Jun 12 08:46 |
| DaaemonFC | schestowitz, Now he's in charge of a fork of Google Chrome that has no reason to exist. | Jun 12 08:47 |
| DaaemonFC | I can't imagine why anyone would use "Brave". It sounds like what Google is about to do with their "ad filter" and "Funding Choices". | Jun 12 08:47 |
| DaaemonFC | Brave had no chance. Google can boil the frog. Introduce user hostile shit a piece at a time and people will sit there and take it. | Jun 12 08:48 |
| DaaemonFC | If Widevine, Funding Choices, and booting ad blockers out of the Chrome Web Store happened at the same time, people might have noticed. | Jun 12 08:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Unfortunately, people are so used to being pissed on that they barely notice it anymore. | Jun 12 08:49 |
| DaaemonFC | Windows 10 is one giant piece of malware and people use it. | Jun 12 08:50 |
| DaaemonFC | What's one more layer of malware? | Jun 12 08:50 |
| DaaemonFC | Hmm, my media player is playing Angry Chair by Alice in Chains. | Jun 12 08:56 |
| DaaemonFC | I think of Ballmer whenever I hear this. | Jun 12 08:56 |
| DaaemonFC | He managed to destroy Microsoft as a company even if people don't realize it yet. | Jun 12 08:57 |
| DaaemonFC | He could not see five feet in front of him. | Jun 12 08:57 |
| DaaemonFC | MinceR, I looked into ZFS on Ubuntu. | Jun 12 08:59 |
| DaaemonFC | Apparently, they broke it again. | Jun 12 08:59 |
| DaaemonFC | The Wiki says not to try to install Ubuntu 17.04 to ZFS. | Jun 12 09:01 |
| DaaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/1685528 | Jun 12 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1685528 “ZFS initramfs mounts dataset explicitly set not to...” : Bugs : zfs-linux package : Ubuntu | Jun 12 09:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 09:04 | |
| DaaemonFC | "Somehow the upstream initramfs zfs script got pulled in, which can break the boot process due to some funky mount overruling." | Jun 12 09:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 09:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874175754396991488 | Jun 12 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ | Jun 12 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #backdoor | Jun 12 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #https #intel | Jun 12 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/8wr0x8GDNQ #microsoft #windows #backdoor #https #intel' | Jun 12 09:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178268286595072 | Jun 12 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i | Jun 12 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #eu #freesw #sk #slovakia #italy | Jun 12 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #uk #gds sharing | Jun 12 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i #eu #freesw...' | Jun 12 09:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874178865429704704 | Jun 12 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk | Jun 12 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Older FSF/GNU/GPL News | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching #Debian...' | Jun 12 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Gentoo Linux Is Dropping SPARC as a Security...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister @jeremycorbyn ought...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Our possibly next Prime Minister...' | Jun 12 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Older #FSF / #GNU / #GPL News https://t.co/cRRzdsGdyk' | Jun 12 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874180528290836480 | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism | Jun 12 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kodi #dgplug #bsd #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 12 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 09:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Thinkfoundation https://twitter.com/Thinkfoundation/status/874181587608514562 | Jun 12 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The THINK! Daily! https://t.co/Up6sA039Wx | Jun 12 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @Anandstweets @tuxmachines | Jun 12 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The THINK! Daily | Jun 12 09:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @DaveAMontez #opengov #ict4d | Jun 12 09:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874182714383106048 | Jun 12 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, | Jun 12 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Firefox Photon, and #Tor 7.0 https://t.co/aAqH7xc2H8 | Jun 12 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Browsers: Chrome 61, Mozilla Against Software Patents, Firefox Photon, and Tor 7.0 | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #www #swpats #anonymity | Jun 12 09:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:35 | |
| DaaemonFC | I might try out XFCE in Fedora. | Jun 12 09:39 |
| DaaemonFC | GNOME seems to be a little piggish. | Jun 12 09:39 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StayBeauti_ful retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874185138418065408 | Jun 12 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk | Jun 12 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #RaspAnd #androido and #btrfs in | Jun 12 09:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android | Jun 12 09:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'More #Android Leftovers https://t.co/fUEvz8unDk #RaspAnd #androido...' | Jun 12 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CGS_Computers retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Browsers: #Chrome 61, #Mozilla Against #SoftwarePatents, #Firefox Photon,...' | Jun 12 09:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874186386517106693 | Jun 12 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj | Jun 12 09:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #canonical #freesw | Jun 12 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Ubuntu and #Debian https://t.co/gByhrDPguj #gnu #linux #canonical...' | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874187270529482752 | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations' | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874187411269443584 | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 12 09:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #flock #fedora #gnu #linux | Jun 12 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations | Tux Machines | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 09:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 09:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189415329017856 | Jun 12 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ | Jun 12 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 12 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874189941022089216 | Jun 12 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a | Jun 12 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux #gaming | Jun 12 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 10:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 10:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbanffy favourited 'Red Hat Financial News and Fedora/Flock Preparations https://t.co/GMQ4gSjHv0...' | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191104463310848 | Jun 12 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX | Jun 12 10:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/xWHuOSY3uJ #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 12 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/h8AyB1xV7a #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | Jun 12 10:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874191770791407616 | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 10:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 10:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, Tanglu 4 | Techrights | Jun 12 10:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/BOMXDz3vHX' | Jun 12 10:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pyrokitteh favourited 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/GqPQTnhdCq #freesw #lullaby #librem #purism #kodi...' | Jun 12 10:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 12 10:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874199357607882752 | Jun 12 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 12/6/2017: Linux 4.12RC5, KDE Frameworks 5.35.0, | Jun 12 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Tanglu 4 https://t.co/KTKQLvZBOd (techrights.org) | Jun 12 11:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 11:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874204744725778433 | Jun 12 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ | Jun 12 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (opensource.com) #golang #google #programming | Jun 12 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 11:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 12 11:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 11:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 11:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @matias_baruch favourited 'Getting started with #Go https://t.co/D7OqmU1RpZ #golang #google #programming' | Jun 12 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874208270516465666 | Jun 12 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source | Jun 12 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | push in GeM https://t.co/ezLx6SoVc1 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #india | Jun 12 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 11:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push...' | Jun 12 11:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lauramorelliphd favourited '#FOSS and #eGov in #Europe https://t.co/bNKsvcol2i #eu #freesw...' | Jun 12 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS and eGov in Europe | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/4thdoctor_scarf/status/874209502807162880 | Jun 12 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #ParrotSecurity OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers | Jun 12 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @4thdoctor_scarf Ditching #Debian for #Devuan https://t.co/HK01st50Fj | Jun 12 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Ethical Hacking Distro Considers Ditching Debian for Devuan | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #security #gnu #linux #systemd | Jun 12 11:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874217183689281537 | Jun 12 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 | Jun 12 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #androido | Jun 12 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openplus #chrome | Jun 12 11:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 #android #google #linux #androido #openplus...' | Jun 12 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 #android #google #linux #androido #openplus...' | Jun 12 11:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends Quick! Buy her stuff. Daddy approves....' | Jun 12 11:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends Quick! Buy her stuff....' | Jun 12 12:09 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/microsoft-raises-concerns-on-governments-open-source-push-in-gem-2299293.html Now that is a read and a half. | Jun 12 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft raises concerns on Government’s open source push in GeM - Moneycontrol.com | Jun 12 12:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @luismoran favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 #android #google #linux #androido #openplus...' | Jun 12 12:40 | |
| cubexyz | horseshit | Jun 12 12:41 |
| cubexyz | M$ isn't one of the biggest contributors to "open source" | Jun 12 12:42 |
| cubexyz | they are the biggest closed source dog of them all | Jun 12 12:43 |
| cubexyz | avoid using microsoft products, that's the best advice I can give | Jun 12 12:44 |
| cubexyz | " But when you change the user-agent string of your browser on Linux to match IE or Edge, suddenly OneDrive's web code runs fine" | Jun 12 12:45 |
| cubexyz | see? same horseshit as always | Jun 12 12:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: to be correct its statement is part true over 1billion dollars a year goes into security auditing software. | Jun 12 12:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft does in fact invest a lot in open source but its open source for their own benefit. | Jun 12 12:47 |
| cubexyz | on cyber security, that doesn't necessarily mean open source | Jun 12 12:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its into a set of join USA government and industry projects that are open source. | Jun 12 12:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is because the tools have to be peer reviewed. | Jun 12 12:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Microsoft cannot trust their own staff neither can any of the other companies involved. | Jun 12 12:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: making closed source software without sold cybersecurity is not going to work right if other parties can break in and steal the source code. | Jun 12 12:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of it this way Microsoft does not trust it own security software as a black box yet it sells closed source software. Now this is really the pot calling the kettle black right. | Jun 12 12:56 |
| MinceR | m$ never cared about security, though | Jun 12 12:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when it comes to their own data yes. | Jun 12 13:00 |
| MinceR | or anyone's | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie Microsoft cares about security when it there own stuff. When it anyone else they don't give a stuff. | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and that is backed by where Microsoft invests the money. | Jun 12 13:01 |
| MinceR | then they're just incompetent | Jun 12 13:01 |
| cubexyz | M$ cares about lock-in and $$$ | Jun 12 13:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: 1 billion dollars in cybersecurity that does not end up shipped in any of their own products. | Jun 12 13:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes cybersecurity to protect their $$$ | Jun 12 13:02 |
| cubexyz | what microsoft did to scanners and printers was criminal | Jun 12 13:02 |
| cubexyz | influencing harware like that | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | I don't recall DEC doing that | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | hardware | Jun 12 13:03 |
| cubexyz | then this secure boot crap happend | Jun 12 13:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, they love wasting money and bragging about it | Jun 12 13:05 |
| MinceR | and at the end their products and services are still all atrocious | Jun 12 13:05 |
| cubexyz | when I heard people say "oh, it's time for a giant windows 10 update, I can't use my computer for hours" I knew that was the end | Jun 12 13:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if they sold proper solid products where would be the upgrade treadmill. | Jun 12 13:06 |
| cubexyz | people _expect_ things to be shitty now | Jun 12 13:06 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/jNf8pa8.png (html: https://imgur.com/jNf8pa8 ) | Jun 12 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch fuckup assessment form - Imgur | Jun 12 13:06 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: dunno, but sounds like it's worth a try | Jun 12 13:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i have yet to see perfect products on that scale. | Jun 12 13:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some of the mil grade drone control software. Its insanely bug free. | Jun 12 13:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/luismoran/status/874229949724594176 | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rLlrteShy3 | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @luismoran (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #androido | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openplus #chrome | Jun 12 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 13:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 13:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874239305224519681 | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | what it replaces https://t.co/sV8Q4EHmpo | Jun 12 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux inside. | Jun 12 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more “pro” than what it replaces | Tux Machines | Jun 12 13:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 13:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: The 10.5-inch iPad Pro is much more...' | Jun 12 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks As of the 9th of June, for...' | Jun 12 13:24 | |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/7N9c0L5drak https://youtu.be/HPJtF5yGx6A | Jun 12 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Задержания на Марсовом поле 12 июня - YouTube | Jun 12 13:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Около 300 человек уже задержаны в Петербурге на Марсовом поле - YouTube | Jun 12 13:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Today's an interesting day in Russia, as predicted. | Jun 12 13:39 |
| XRevan86 | The anti-corruption meeting on the Field of Mars in St. Petersburg. | Jun 12 13:40 |
| MinceR | government deceit is interesting? :> | Jun 12 13:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe I'm biased :) | Jun 12 13:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 12 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | If I would've been a better citizen, I'd be there, on the Field of Mars. | Jun 12 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, this is the biggest anti-institutional event in Russia since 2011 | Jun 12 13:44 |
| *acer-box has quit (Quit: Konversation term) | Jun 12 13:44 | |
| XRevan86 | And the regime is more concerned than ever before. | Jun 12 13:45 |
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| XRevan86 | The leader of this whole thing Aleksey Navalny was apprehended at the entry of his apartment earlier today. | Jun 12 13:48 |
| MinceR | oh, a protest | Jun 12 13:50 |
| MinceR | i wonder how many people putler will have killed | Jun 12 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | s/meeting/protest/ oops :) | Jun 12 13:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: killed?… | Jun 12 13:51 |
| XRevan86 | Today's Russia Day, BTW. | Jun 12 13:53 |
| XRevan86 | A person I know just came from the protest (on the Field of Mars), he says everything went relatively calm except for people who were trying to get on the monument. | Jun 12 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's better to wait for better, more complete, news about the whole thing… | Jun 12 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | instead of Breaking News :) | Jun 12 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: what do you make of the famous arrest today? | Jun 12 19:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust the BBC much... | Jun 12 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It was kind of expected. | Jun 12 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | Not the first time/ | Jun 12 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | What does BBC write about it? | Jun 12 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | If I understood it right, the government sanctioned the demonstration on Sakharova prospect but sound system providers refused to provide for the demostration, saying they are being threatened | Jun 12 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | so Navalny decided to make the demonstration on a better, but not santioned place – Tverskaya street. | Jun 12 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | So he was probably taken by attempting to make an unsanctioned demostration, which apparently counts as extremism %) | Jun 12 19:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874330405486211072 | Jun 12 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 19:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Mobile Navigator App Released for Tizen-based Samsung Z1, Z2, Z3 and Z4 - Tizen Experts | Jun 12 19:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m #linux' | Jun 12 19:20 | |
| cubexyz | oh dear... 1/3 of world overweight | Jun 12 19:29 |
| *XRevan86 reads: for an administrative punishment by laws "Secondary violation of demonstration organisation rules" and "Disobidience of lawful orders of a police officer" | Jun 12 19:30 | |
| XRevan86 | for that Navalny will either get a fine of 20 000 rubles, mandatory labour for 40 hours or 10 days arrest | Jun 12 19:31 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What is? | Jun 12 19:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg and here's the photo of the arrest. | Jun 12 19:34 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/se-1.jpg | Jun 12 19:36 |
| cubexyz | a third of the population of humans on earth are fat :) | Jun 12 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Huh, I didn't realise there are so many first world people | Jun 12 19:38 |
| MinceR | patience, they're working on it | Jun 12 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | And… a third? | Jun 12 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | When I walk on streets, I barely see any | Jun 12 19:40 |
| XRevan86 | How fat are the UK and US really? | Jun 12 19:41 |
| MinceR | here's that photo in higher resolution: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHTAwVWsAAlwFY.jpg:orig | Jun 12 19:42 |
| MinceR | the roof of that tiny building is really weird | Jun 12 19:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/874330528723480576 | Jun 12 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Samsung and #Tizen / #Android https://t.co/oMP0ucoc6m | Jun 12 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @verfassungklage (www.tizenexperts.com) #linux | Jun 12 19:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Trump is busy shredding the Constitution while...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Trump is busy shredding the...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz Trump find authoritarianism attractive. Just...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz Trump find authoritarianism...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like they are...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Huh, now that you mentioned it, WTF is that building? | Jun 12 19:43 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden @NatVasilyevaAP @max_katz It seems like...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Educate yourself, Donnie. I know it's hard...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Educate yourself, Donnie. I know...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Dark humour on dark energy from a...' | Jun 12 19:43 | |
| cubexyz | Samoa, Tonga and Kiribati are 80% overweight | Jun 12 19:43 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i guess it's a public toilet | Jun 12 19:44 |
| MinceR | possibly for a single person at a time | Jun 12 19:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/29-most-obese-countries-in-the-world.html | Jun 12 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-29 Most Obese Countries In The World - WorldAtlas.com [ http://ur1.ca/qzqfs ] | Jun 12 19:44 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not a logical place for that | Jun 12 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | Most of the people passing that building by would be able to use the loo at their own homes because are living in the local building. | Jun 12 19:46 |
| cubexyz | evidently there's tons of fast food places in pacific island nations | Jun 12 19:46 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: entrance to FSB black site | Jun 12 19:46 |
| MinceR | ...disguised as public toilet | Jun 12 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | or a solitary confinement conviniently placed right next to the place Navalny lives in | Jun 12 19:49 |
| XRevan86 | "in times of uncertainty place your Navalny in the box until the police officers arrive" | Jun 12 19:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/28/bofh_2017_episode_6/ | Jun 12 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back • The Register | Jun 12 19:50 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Lc7pesU.jpg | Jun 12 20:04 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Dark humour on dark energy...' | Jun 12 20:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874341740974673920 | Jun 12 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Jun 12 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a8KmYHDGjp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Tux Machines | Jun 12 20:05 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfTPlsIq7d0 | Jun 12 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874341913687666688 | Jun 12 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” Xfce – BETA Release | Jun 12 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/a8KmYHDGjp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 12 21:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874379735245217793 | Jun 12 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf | Jun 12 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux | Jun 12 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf #android #google #linux' | Jun 12 22:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf #android #google #linux' | Jun 12 22:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874381733134827520 | Jun 12 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV | Jun 12 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #iot #device #gnu #sbc | Jun 12 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No lack of Linux IoT projects | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/12jun2017/navalny_sud.html Navalny will get a month of an administrative arrest. | Jun 12 22:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @roomeezon retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'No lack of Linux IoT projects https://t.co/pQKYAGlBLV #linux...' | Jun 12 22:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874382982479532036 | Jun 12 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Jun 12 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU (www.tuxmachines.org) #wifi | Jun 12 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #arduiuno #multiloop #ERASynth | Jun 12 22:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source RF signal generator features WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source RF signal generator features WiFi https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU...' | Jun 12 22:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874383225807929344 | Jun 12 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/CxcBcedvsk | Jun 12 22:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source RF signal generator features WiFi https://t.co/BDiBL3mUyU...' | Jun 12 22:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874385000023642112 | Jun 12 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch | Jun 12 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Jun 12 22:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Makers of the $249 Litebook Linux laptop launch mini-desktop and a bigger (and pricier) laptop | Tux Machines | Jun 12 22:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Makers of the $249 #Litebook Linux laptop launch...' | Jun 12 22:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark of #macOS 10.12.5 vs. #Ubuntu 17.04 vs. | Jun 12 23:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | macOS 10.12.5 vs. Ubuntu 17.04 vs. Clear Linux On A Mac Mini | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#benchmark of #macOS 10.12.5 vs. #Ubuntu 17.04 vs....' | Jun 12 23:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874387077022056448 | Jun 12 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | We can now detect recurrent events in #GNOMECalendar | Jun 12 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FgaE7I2Jfv (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 12 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnome #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 12 23:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We can now detect recurrent events in GNOME Calendar | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'We can now detect recurrent events in #GNOMECalendar...' | Jun 12 23:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/ovvWSEknqf #android #google #linux' | Jun 12 23:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Tanglu 4 #GNU #Linux Distro Released with #UEFI Support, | Jun 12 23:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop https://t.co/3dey9zmq0B | Jun 12 23:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tanglu 4 GNU/Linux Distro Released with UEFI Support, KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS Desktop | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tanglu 4 #GNU #Linux Distro Released with #UEFI...' | Jun 12 23:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874389568933568512 | Jun 12 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Zorin OS 12 Lite Adopts #Xfce as Default Desktop | Jun 12 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environment Instead of #LXDE https://t.co/HS73NzpNpJ | Jun 12 23:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #zorin #zorinos #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 12 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 12 Lite Beta Adopts Xfce as Default Desktop Environment Instead of LXDE | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Zorin OS 12 Lite Adopts #Xfce as...' | Jun 12 23:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874391092942315524 | Jun 12 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Desktop – GNOME Extensions poll results | Jun 12 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/O9b5eWtDQ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 12 23:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 12 23:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Desktop – GNOME Extensions poll results | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Desktop – GNOME Extensions poll results https://t.co/O9b5eWtDQ1...' | Jun 12 23:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Tanglu 4 #GNU #Linux Distro Released with #UEFI...' | Jun 12 23:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874392291070312448 | Jun 12 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Jun 12 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 12 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 12 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu & UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Tux Machines | Jun 12 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good...' | Jun 12 23:28 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874393165867954177 | Jun 12 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu & #UKUI desktop - Not a good idea | Jun 12 23:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/hlgP6Bc87z (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 12 23:47 |
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| cubexyz | ok, if you are running a computer older than 2005 you don't have Intel ME | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | probably up to 2007 is also safe | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | it wasn't until 2005 that intel started the funny business with ethernet controllers | Jun 13 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I'm not clear on how it can intercept TCP/IP traffic when the computer is suspended | Jun 13 00:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 2005 and before it could be hiding in a network card | Jun 13 00:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: controller that could keybord video mouse appears 2001. | Jun 13 00:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: network controllers that should have been. | Jun 13 00:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Jun 13 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG (www.tuxmachines.org) #cms | Jun 13 08:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 13 08:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Tux Machines | Jun 13 08:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG...' | Jun 13 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/DigestWordpress/status/874535182333640706 | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #WordPress 4.8 Overview and Working From Home | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @DigestWordpress https://t.co/EVOuMQ9eJG (www.tuxmachines.org) #cms | Jun 13 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 13 08:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874536643298037760 | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oFpdSL6bIE (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat | Jun 13 09:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #rhel #gnu #linux | Jun 13 09:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 Beta now available...' | Jun 13 09:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874538463646953472 | Jun 13 09:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 09:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 09:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA | Jun 13 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #bbm #blackberyr | Jun 13 09:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #androidauto #nokia | Jun 13 09:07 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 09:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/AF2V6vyYgA #android #google #bbm #blackberyr #androidauto...' | Jun 13 09:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake of #WannaCry | Jun 13 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://t.co/B34GhbLooT (www.tuxmachines.org) #india | Jun 13 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Thiruvananthapuram | Jun 13 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indians Migrate to GNU/Linux in the Wake of WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @SecurityNews6 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874539855052722177 | Jun 13 09:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor | Jun 13 09:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Pomodoro, Stacer, UDisks, Qtractor | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfoSecurity99 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Indians Migrate to #GNU #Linux in the Wake...' | Jun 13 09:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Pomodoro, #Stacer, #UDisks, #Qtractor https://t.co/dvLOONE4n3 #freesw' | Jun 13 09:31 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Soundtoxin favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Smarter half tiling in GNOME Shell/Mutter | Tux Machines | Jun 13 09:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Soundtoxin/status/874544686618345472 | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Soundtoxin https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 13 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 13 10:26 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @CooksCeramics favourited 'Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv #gnome...' | Jun 13 11:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet...' | Jun 13 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Get off your golden toilet bowl, switch...' | Jun 13 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@paKTusa @realDonaldTrump There is a lot more to...' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alleged Saudi role in September 11 attacks - Wikipedia | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You should be banned from the US...' | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Sedition much? https://t.co/AUr8OPMXpS https://t.co/BoIKYQhFTg | Jun 13 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You should be banned from...' | Jun 13 12:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks #trump does not even seem to know...' | Jun 13 12:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks #trump does not even seem...' | Jun 13 12:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Smarter half tiling in #GNOMEShell #Mutter | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oS1GEDfeyv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 12:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874594705929113600 | Jun 13 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 12:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 12:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s' | Jun 13 12:51 | |
| XRevan86 | > Gnome Pomodoro – A Timer to Help Increase Your Productivity | Jun 13 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | not sure how time tracking is related to tomatoes | Jun 13 12:55 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 13 13:09 |
| MinceR | it's a method involving what was originally a tomato-shaped kitchen timer | Jun 13 13:09 |
| MinceR | i don't like it because it's rigid as hell | Jun 13 13:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So, the timer's shape was very important to the method's author | Jun 13 13:11 |
| MinceR | or they were at a loss for a better name | Jun 13 13:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874595061023088641 | Jun 13 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers https://t.co/lQWRpBXo8s | Jun 13 13:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 13:31 |
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| schestowitz | [12:54] <XRevan86> I suddenly want a tomato. | Jun 13 13:31 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 13 13:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS' | Jun 13 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/JBWde5pknS | Jun 13 13:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Now at stage 4, Donnie, you are...' | Jun 13 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874610357200990209 | Jun 13 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake news. | Jun 13 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Your hypocrisy is showing... | Jun 13 13:52 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You watch fake news. That is fake...' | Jun 13 13:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the law by...' | Jun 13 13:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Remember when Murdoch broke the...' | Jun 13 14:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And your family uses your new position...' | Jun 13 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any jobs. You...' | Jun 13 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You never really >created< any...' | Jun 13 14:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625240080539648 | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ahKUScDYyR (www.tuxmachines.org) #ksa | Jun 13 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #saudiArabia #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 14:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874625553998938112 | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zRxvXMRHqv (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security | Jun 13 14:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC | Tux Machines | Jun 13 14:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 Must-Have Security Tools for Your Linux PC...' | Jun 13 14:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KSA's Prince Sultan University joins Red Hat Academy...' | Jun 13 14:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 14:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 14:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own incompetence on...' | Jun 13 14:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You seriously blame your own...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise "life and...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You just try to privatise...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#ExtonOS Linux Is Now Based on #Ubuntu 17.04,...' | Jun 13 15:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 13 15:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874628724175581186 | Jun 13 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen News/Apps https://t.co/dPkIcUzMEd | Jun 13 15:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 15:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News/Apps | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630209298989057 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace | Jun 13 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874630770677166080 | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/61H4vbl5Fk | Jun 13 15:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 15:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 15:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @corbyn_man retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/8R7zkZxcS8 #redhat #gnu #linux #rackspace' | Jun 13 15:14 | |
| cubexyz | never realized this existed: | Jun 13 15:21 |
| cubexyz | http://segaretro.org/Mega_PC | Jun 13 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-segaretro.org | Mega PC | Jun 13 15:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/corbyn_man/status/874630985454891010 | Jun 13 15:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/l1GP1edqkY | Jun 13 15:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @corbyn_man (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 15:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:22 | |
| cubexyz | and there's teradrives on ebay | Jun 13 15:24 |
| cubexyz | quite expensive | Jun 13 15:24 |
| cubexyz | NOS one is $6K Can | Jun 13 15:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874632956513587204 | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 13 15:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd ...' | Jun 13 15:33 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_TeraDrive one of these? | Jun 13 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sega TeraDrive - Wikipedia | Jun 13 15:35 | |
| cubexyz | yes, that's it | Jun 13 15:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that thing was a super odd ball with 3 different CPUs. | Jun 13 15:45 |
| MinceR | what did it use the z80 for? | Jun 13 15:48 |
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| cubexyz | for sound | Jun 13 16:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/874522092024320000 | Jun 13 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 16:54 | |
| schestowitz | "Any more infos abou this case BvR 739/17 in front of the German Constitutional Court? Search engines are pretty silent... #upc #patent | Jun 13 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/874392638723694592 | Jun 13 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @Sheikh_al_Touar @DavidBrooke_IP @WorldIPReview @ipwatch @patentbuddy @Twpalovi @Wikinaut No honest one, that is. T… https://t.co/7bRvURqJ11 | Jun 13 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | "No honest one, that is. Trolls and speculators are gleefully feeding on it without remorse making millions." | Jun 13 16:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/874635838902108161 | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/5RgluebTti | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #fdio #kubernetes #rspamd | Jun 13 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #china #sktelecom | Jun 13 17:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874682871511908352 | Jun 13 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights | Jun 13 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/3KRrYTBIbE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683274546880512 | Jun 13 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 | Jun 13 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #nokia #lg #india #linux | Jun 13 18:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874683786377789441 | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Not Code https://t.co/RoaEYzAtAB (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #freedom #foss | Jun 13 18:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about Control, Not Code | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 #android #nokia #lg #india #linux' | Jun 13 18:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/SqsXEKa1O4 #android #nokia #lg #india #linux' | Jun 13 18:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why Does Open Source Really Matter? It's about...' | Jun 13 18:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874684567717908484 | Jun 13 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on #Flipkart at | Jun 13 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a discount https://t.co/OXW6f07gDN (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizen #tizenos #samsung #linux | Jun 13 18:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on Flipkart at a discount | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874684900594655233 | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With #NVIDIA | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | / #Radeon #Graphics On #Linux https://t.co/rbiD0u0nPC | Jun 13 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 13 18:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance With NVIDIA/Radeon Graphics On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 13 18:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Get amazing Tizen powered Samsung devices on #Flipkart...' | Jun 13 18:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance...' | Jun 13 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance...' | Jun 13 18:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874687636190920704 | Jun 13 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu | Jun 13 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X6LdW7krCV (tuxmachines.org) #canonical #gnu | Jun 13 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 13 19:01 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: 'PCI Express 1.0 vs. 2.0 vs. 3.0 Performance...' | Jun 13 19:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Amazon Greengrass launches as a snap on Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874688054186958848 | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YGPUafoCle (tuxmachines.org) #fedora #redhat | Jun 13 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 13 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Amazon #Greengrass launches as a #snap on #Ubuntu...' | Jun 13 19:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Announcing the Release of Fedora 26 Beta https://t.co/YGPUafoCle...' | Jun 13 19:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Says it all... https://t.co/pCvMMEiWfR | Jun 13 19:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874691417679028224 | Jun 13 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights | Jun 13 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/3KRrYTBIbE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 13 19:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874701950994042881 | Jun 13 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 19:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Tux Machines | Jun 13 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874702073513861125 | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Gaming and New GNU/Linux Ports | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DCqA7ZTJQ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 13 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gaming | Jun 13 19:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Time for him to leave, after that...' | Jun 13 19:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Time for him to leave,...' | Jun 13 19:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874703466018504705 | Jun 13 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B | Jun 13 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 13 20:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging Release 2.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B #wine #freesw...' | Jun 13 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited '#WineStaging Release 2.10 https://t.co/wxXB9mGg2B #wine #freesw...' | Jun 13 20:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#AlpineLinux 3.6 Security-Oriented OS Gets First Point Release...' | Jun 13 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874709405274648578 | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 13 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 13 20:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:32 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeUM1WDoOGY | Jun 13 20:34 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Securing Your Linux System Bit by Bit https://t.co/orfHGAnKdR...' | Jun 13 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874712300950892546 | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera. | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r0T8l28NXb (www.cinema5d.com) "actual | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating system of the camera are still under | Jun 13 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development." | Jun 13 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cinema5d.com | NO TITLE | Jun 13 20:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Apertus AXIOM Beta – Your Open Source Camera....' | Jun 13 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713115002380288 | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz (www.phoronix.com) still my main | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | browser. Not ideal freedom-wise, but better than most | Jun 13 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | technically. | Jun 13 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla Firefox 54 Now Available - Phoronix | Jun 13 20:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874713607296233472 | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky after | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Swapping Linux for Windows in Munich too risky after WannaCry attacks, warn Greens | Tux Machines | Jun 13 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mozilla #Firefox 54 Now Available https://t.co/pZlKtY7uYz still my...' | Jun 13 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @rbonifaz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 13 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874714739309518849 | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky after | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #WannaCry attacks, warn Green https://t.co/gHpqgt79RI | Jun 13 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #security #germany #limux | Jun 13 21:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874721311569973249 | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Alpha Offers Core #i7 Centurion Laptop Running #GNU | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux for $429 https://t.co/fVEHRSikdn | Jun 13 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #elementaryOS #litebox | Jun 13 21:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpha Offers Core i7 Centurion Laptop Running Linux for $429 | Tux Machines | Jun 13 21:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874778950224015360 | Jun 14 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 13/6/2017: Alpha #Litebox Comes With #GNU #Linux , | Jun 14 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warning to #Munich About Windows https://t.co/xG8Qcsv01b | Jun 14 01:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/6/2017: Alpha Litebox Comes With GNU/Linux, Warning to Munich About Windows | Techrights | Jun 14 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/874789628183805953 | Jun 14 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: Software and Games https://t.co/1Tx0wj1Bhu | Jun 14 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #games #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 14 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 14 01:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/874789628984922112 | Jun 14 01:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/gSxZTNLKhN | Jun 14 01:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 14 01:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 14 01:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scorpiandesigns/status/874789881804926976 | Jun 14 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: Software and Games https://t.co/1Tx0wj1Bhu | Jun 14 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scorpiandesigns (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #games #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 14 02:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Leftovers: #Solus. #OBS, and #Unixstickers https://t.co/pZxdDFBtUU #suse #opensuse...' | Jun 14 03:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Graphics in #Linux https://t.co/Q6pfRYWfMN #mesa #Gallium3D #Qualcomm #Adreno...' | Jun 14 03:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 14 03:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/874812926376370176 | Jun 14 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: #Solus. #OBS, and #Unixstickers | Jun 14 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup https://t.co/pZxdDFBtUU (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse | Jun 14 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opensuse #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 14 05:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Solus. OBS, and Unixstickers | Tux Machines | Jun 14 05:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Maybe table a bill to rehire firefighters....' | Jun 14 09:20 | |
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| Hi | hi | Jun 14 10:12 |
| Hi | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 10:13 |
| *Hi is now known as Guest42781 | Jun 14 10:13 | |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | i want to get removed one of my link from this website | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | whom to contact | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | hi | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | yes tell me | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | where? | Jun 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | and why? | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | techrights.org/category/news-roundup/page/18/ | Jun 14 10:13 |
| Guest42781 | Lenovo Yoga Book 2-in-1 PC With Chrome OS Coming In 2017 | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | on this text | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | pleas | Jun 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | why? | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | its giving negative impact for our SEO | Jun 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | f* off | Jun 14 10:14 |
| Guest42781 | ooohhhhh really | Jun 14 10:14 |
| razielle_tzu | LOl | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | go back to your SEO-ville | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | spammer | Jun 14 10:15 |
| Guest42781 | bloody spammers you guys are | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | you are | Jun 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | wasting people's time 'optimising' | Jun 14 10:15 |
| Guest42781 | losers | Jun 14 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Go back to your "SEO" duties | Jun 14 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe one day you will get a real job | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | dude I am not a seo guy | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | I am the person who created the website | Jun 14 10:16 |
| Guest42781 | and your 1 link is hurting my efforts | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | one article is throwing off your SEO? | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | yes... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| razielle_tzu | then your SEO is shit | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | that's why I am requesting you | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | so you try to tame the whole web | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | may be... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | to suit your SEO | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | no.... | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | I get lots of spammer requests like that from SEO "professionals" | Jun 14 10:17 |
| schestowitz | many requests are even automated | Jun 14 10:17 |
| Guest42781 | i am not automated man | Jun 14 10:18 |
| razielle_tzu | if one article throws off your SEO it's bad SEO | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | may be I am saying you and requesting you to remove it | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | it will not cost you anything | Jun 14 10:18 |
| Guest42781 | but its costing me | Jun 14 10:18 |
| schestowitz | I remember about 10 years ago when Sainsbury's asked people to request PERMISSION to just LINK to their site | Jun 14 10:18 |
| razielle_tzu | ikr | Jun 14 10:18 |
| schestowitz | these people don't get the Internet | Jun 14 10:19 |
| schestowitz | probably still don't | Jun 14 10:19 |
| razielle_tzu | they really don't | Jun 14 10:19 |
| Guest42781 | please will you remove it or not...it will be of great help to me | Jun 14 10:19 |
| Guest42781 | ?? | Jun 14 10:20 |
| razielle_tzu | probably not, find another way to fix your bad SEO | Jun 14 10:20 |
| Guest42781 | ok.....may be you will always be a looser only like since last 16 years with your shitty website when you can't succeed you are sucking others efforts...bloody looser | Jun 14 10:21 |
| oiaohm | https://janefriedman.com/the-fair-use-doctrine/ | Jun 14 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janefriedman.com | Is It Fair Use? 7 Questions to Ask Before Using Copyrighted Material | Jun 14 10:22 | |
| razielle_tzu | LOL | Jun 14 10:22 |
| schestowitz | I gave you traffic | Jun 14 10:23 |
| Guest42781 | i think you didn't know anything apart from LOL | Jun 14 10:23 |
| Guest42781 | I don't need you bloody traffic | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | If some cyber-jacking led to the link being to strong pr0n, I would remove it | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | but "SEO" is a poor reason | Jun 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | you are trying to shape the whole Web (around you) to suit your goals | Jun 14 10:23 |
| razielle_tzu | SEO is one of the worst reasons to request a takedown that GIVES traffic | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | also a waste of time | Jun 14 10:24 |
| Guest42781 | thanks for the advice | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | you would be spending your time better writing MORE articles | Jun 14 10:24 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah because it won't be the link that's causing the issues | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | not obsessing over something you wrote a year ago | Jun 14 10:24 |
| schestowitz | sorry for saying the f* word | Jun 14 10:24 |
| razielle_tzu | poor design, meta-spam | Jun 14 10:25 |
| razielle_tzu | these are things that will be effecting it | Jun 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I mistook you for some agent that's doing "SEO" on behalf of something | Jun 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | lots of those exist out there and I get spammed by them all the time | Jun 14 10:25 |
| Guest42781 | hhhhhhhmmmmm | Jun 14 10:25 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 10:25 |
| oiaohm | Guest42781: https://www.google.com/webmasters/#?modal_active=none google does provide this tool. That does give you information on how it going over your sites and possible issues. | Jun 14 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Webmasters – Support, Learn, Connect & Search Console – Google [ http://ur1.ca/qwgzw ] | Jun 14 10:26 | |
| oiaohm | There is the nofollow that can be used on links in some cases to prevent some issues. | Jun 14 10:27 |
| Guest42781 | ok | Jun 14 10:28 |
| Guest42781 | thanks | Jun 14 10:28 |
| razielle_tzu | ooo the site uses the WP plugin yoast for SEO | Jun 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough of this subject please? | Jun 14 10:28 |
| schestowitz | So much effort over a stupid "seo" thing for some very old article | Jun 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Guest42781: you could write a new article in this whole time chatting in IRC about SEO | Jun 14 10:30 |
| Guest42781 | Think that only | Jun 14 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Some people obsess over statistics and analytics (spying) when they could instead produce something new | Jun 14 10:30 |
| schestowitz | I want to write some articles now... | Jun 14 10:30 |
| Guest42781 | where it will be published :P | Jun 14 10:31 |
| razielle_tzu | what's with the random [/one_half], [one_half_last] stuff on random pages? | Jun 14 10:32 |
| razielle_tzu | seems kinda unprofessional | Jun 14 10:32 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: ok what. | Jun 14 10:33 |
| oiaohm | https://www.monsterinsights.com/welcome-to-monsterinsights/ yoast is no more monsterinsights is the new name. | Jun 14 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to MonsterInsights - New Home of Google Analytics for WordPress | Jun 14 10:33 | |
| razielle_tzu | on Guest42781's site, some pages have random bits of code showing, like what i asked about being on their contact page | Jun 14 10:33 |
| razielle_tzu | also oiaohm Yoast is still what some articles are using for the SEO stuff | Jun 14 10:33 |
| razielle_tzu | in fact i think the whole site is still using it | Jun 14 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: this London tower block news you seen it ? | Jun 14 10:34 |
| sebsebseb | and you schestowitz | Jun 14 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | it would be bigger news if "tourrists" | Jun 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | As if death only matter if there's some justification for wars abroad | Jun 14 10:35 |
| schestowitz | never mind car accidents, fires, cancer etc. | Jun 14 10:35 |
| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: that is one of the common things I find. Sites SEO seams to be going badly and it got some out of date SEO tool on it. | Jun 14 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well its taken over bbc one | Jun 14 10:35 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: big story there | Jun 14 10:35 |
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| razielle_tzu | oiaohm: ikr, it's like they WANT someone else to blame instead of the guys that are supposed to keep everything up to date and working right | Jun 14 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874904295375810560 | Jun 14 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 13/6/2017: Alpha #Litebox Comes With #GNU #Linux , | Jun 14 10:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Warning to #Munich About Windows https://t.co/xG8Qcsv01b | Jun 14 10:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Vectr: a fresh take on vector graphics edition on Linux | Jun 14 10:38 |
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| oiaohm | razielle_tzu: I tell everyone starting a website to do a proper copyright introduction course prevents a lot of these stupid claims problems understand why people are legally allowed to-do to your work. | Jun 14 10:38 |
| razielle_tzu | it's a good idea tbf | Jun 14 10:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux distro UBOS beta 11 released with support for | Jun 14 10:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft is really scared of #Chromebooks in businesses | Jun 14 10:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Young programmer turns love of gaming into a Summer of | Jun 14 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux Machines | Jun 14 10:57 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how difficult could it possibly be to understand for you cancerd cultists that for most users multiseat is a perfectly irrelevant feature? | Jun 14 11:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL what does multi seat features prevent from happening in a security context??? | Jun 14 11:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course those who want to stick in the past never ask that question. | Jun 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: nothing relevant | Jun 14 11:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that not an answer basically you don't have a clue | Jun 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: a. server. is. not. a. multiseat. desktop. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no there is a place on the server for multiseat features. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, there is no place on the server for multiseat features | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how do you control device access | Jun 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: especially if they are an excuse for breaking server behavior. | Jun 14 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you are just being clueless. | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: by locking up the server room, and by not giving untrustworthy people user accounts on the server, for example | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you are being clueless | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: or you're just trolling | Jun 14 11:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why did consolekit have per service settings | Jun 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | apparently not only poettering is perfectly clueless about what goes on in production environments | Jun 14 11:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: why the solution before consolekit have it. | Jun 14 11:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you are missing something | Jun 14 11:13 |
| MinceR | yeah, i miss all the things poettering destroyed or ruined | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what is the main objective of session seperation. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this still applies to the same point. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so far you have failed to answer one. | Jun 14 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality you never understood the basic objective. So you are straight up unable to make a valid arguement. | Jun 14 11:17 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go back to windows | Jun 14 11:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: windows lacks this feature. | Jun 14 11:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so going back windows is this you admitting you don't have a clue? | Jun 14 11:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/874928685635301376 | Jun 14 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Financial News https://t.co/pUoYHXxDZw | Jun 14 11:20 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: then go pay your beloved microsoft to implement it | Jun 14 11:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Lets say you want to use opencl in a service to speed up processing. How are you going to do that safely without proper session separation framework. | Jun 14 11:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multi-seat is one part of a bigger set of features that is coming quite useful on servers. | Jun 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | good thing being able to boot, shutdown, launch services and log weren't at all useful on servers | Jun 14 11:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: microsoft thinks it a good idea to put all services in session 0 sharing resources kind turns out bad when something breaks | Jun 14 11:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, don't share resources | Jun 14 11:22 |
| MinceR | run every application on its own machine | Jun 14 11:23 |
| MinceR | like they do on windows | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: of course that is a minor improvement over using session1 with the primary logged in user. | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: correct multi seat with correct device assement is something critically missing from windows. | Jun 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: multiseat is not just about more keyboards, mice and screens. Its about sessions. | Jun 14 11:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so what you are saying is that I should do stuff like windows where it does not have proper sessions. | Jun 14 11:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny systemd in this area is really not windows. | Jun 14 11:25 |
| MinceR | it's also not a server OS | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | this kind of session split first appears on AIX | Jun 14 11:26 |
| MinceR | funny, i have yet to hear about multiseat desktops running AIX | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | So claiming it not a server feature is flawed. | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | AIX calls it mulit session | Jun 14 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Different name same feature | Jun 14 11:26 |
| MinceR | well, at least the features you cancerd cultists are throwing out that people have used on servers for ages are not server features after all | Jun 14 11:27 |
| MinceR | it's great that you guys cleared that up | Jun 14 11:27 |
| oiaohm | multi session is part of sevice isoluation under AIX | Jun 14 11:27 |
| oiaohm | So when it does not have seat in the name it truly a server feature. | Jun 14 11:28 |
| *MinceR deletes the webserver and the system logs and plugs in 3 monitors, keyboards and mice | Jun 14 11:28 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: LOL idiot AIX box did not have that feature. | Jun 14 11:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so this is you seeing the seat and not seeing how it fits anywhere else. | Jun 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, deterministic booting doesn't fit in the server room | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | who the hell wants their servers to boot reliably? | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | screw that, we'll just send Pajeet in to sit down in the data center and figure out on the console why the damn thing won't boot this time | Jun 14 11:30 |
| MinceR | or just power cycle it until it comes up | Jun 14 11:31 |
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| MinceR | also, have you retroactively removed the su binary from all AIX systems yet? | Jun 14 11:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: deterministic booting had been having trouble for a while. Particularly on 32 cores and larger with system utilisation on boot. | Jun 14 11:32 |
| MinceR | you're supposed to use machinectl shell, dummy | Jun 14 11:33 |
| MinceR | yeah, it was trouble for those who insisted on doing parallel boot where it does not make sense | Jun 14 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Problem is most of the server rooms are not single core systems any more but multicores. So boot has had to evolve to do parallel boot well. | Jun 14 11:34 |
| oiaohm | This is one of the features alternatives to systemd need to consider. | Jun 14 11:35 |
| MinceR | no, you don't have to start services on parallel just because your system happens to have multiple cores | Jun 14 11:35 |
| oiaohm | machinectl was not design to replace su. It was designed for when using docker like instances. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| MinceR | guess what, non-parallel boot has worked on multicore systems just fine | Jun 14 11:36 |
| MinceR | ooh, it was not designed to replace su! have you told poettering about that? he doesn't seem to be aware of it. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/machinectl.html read the first line. | Jun 14 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | machinectl | Jun 14 11:36 | |
| MinceR | (though "design" is a bit of a strong word for this haphazard mess you keep advertising here) | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | machinectl may be used to introspect and control the state of the systemd(1) virtual machine and container registration manager | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | So it was not designed to replace su | Jun 14 11:37 |
| oiaohm | that some people have found it can be used in that way is another matter. | Jun 14 11:37 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/825#issuecomment-127917622 | Jun 14 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RFE: machinectl to provide starting new session on local machine · Issue #825 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/nlk19 ] | Jun 14 11:38 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: read that careful. What su and sudo do is not clearly define was disputed before systemd existed. | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | admins somehow managed to use them | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | quite successfully, in fact | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | somehow, they worked reliably without replacing pid1 with a backdoor | Jun 14 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what machineclt was designed to do was nsenter and su in combination in a predictable outcome way. | Jun 14 11:41 |
| MinceR | cancerd's behavior is many things. predictable is not one of those things. | Jun 14 11:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: docker reports issues with nsenter and su and sudo before systemd particularly when you have PID namespace. | Jun 14 11:42 |
| MinceR | then don't use docker? | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | nixos containtainers, lxc also showed the same kind of problems. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| oiaohm | So there was a bug there. | Jun 14 11:43 |
| MinceR | then don't use nsenter? | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | So don't use shell inside a container to see what is going on??? | Jun 14 11:44 |
| oiaohm | That is what you have suggested not using nsenter | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | don't use a container implementation in production if it isn't ready for production use | Jun 14 11:45 |
| oiaohm | because you did not have anything else before machinectl todo it | Jun 14 11:45 |
| oiaohm | This is one of these cases of a item needing a fork. | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | but yeah, this idea is not good because it's not destructive enough | Jun 14 11:45 |
| MinceR | you've got to kill off a few gnu/linux distros in an attempt to make your half-baked bullshit work | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | The stuff before was half backed as well. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| MinceR | hell, even if cancerd worked as well as you keep insisting (which it does not), the project would still deserve to die and be forgotten for their attitude, trickery and destructiveness | Jun 14 11:46 |
| oiaohm | So half-baked so people would not use container because they were not stable enough. | Jun 14 11:46 |
| MinceR | the stuff before didn't destroy our systems | Jun 14 11:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Oh Apple, oH Apple, what a lovely tech company, or not, but that HUngarian guy thinks so, oh yes Apple Apple | Jun 14 11:47 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: crApple is not a tech company, it's a cult | Jun 14 11:47 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hows down under, has Apple invavded it too much like here as well ? : d | Jun 14 11:47 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Apple not that popular in Australia as it really had to find a shop to get anything. | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no your cool if you have a Iphone or Ipad :d | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | and use it | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | a lot | Jun 14 11:48 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: like its nothing to be 200 kms to the nearest apple repair place. | Jun 14 11:48 |
| sebsebseb | so they are near | Jun 14 11:49 |
| sebsebseb | or not so near ? | Jun 14 11:49 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_iPhone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujitsu_iPAD | Jun 14 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linksys iPhone - Wikipedia | Jun 14 11:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fujitsu iPAD - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qzz7r ] | Jun 14 11:49 | |
| MinceR | i don't see what's so special about them | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: 2-4 hours drive to just get a apple using person to look at something. | Jun 14 11:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really any change I think you would have been upset. | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, not all change involves destroying everything in sight | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: its android or apple in the main streame | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also not all change involves building in an NSA backdoor | Jun 14 11:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd did not destroy anything for me. | Jun 14 11:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: everything else has little or no market share | Jun 14 11:50 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: so what? | Jun 14 11:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: android and strange and horible windows tablets are more common than ipad stuff. | Jun 14 11:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows tablets are pure nasty. | Jun 14 11:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh Microsoft oh Microsoft | Jun 14 11:51 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: appanratly Windows phone isn't that awful really! | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | it's even more awful | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | especially if you consider that winblows mobile sucked less | Jun 14 11:52 |
| sebsebseb | its a bit eh, unless it supports continumem | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | and they killed that for its sake | Jun 14 11:52 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: wait until they have seen one to many wifi networks. | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | what's m$ "support" worth anyway? | Jun 14 11:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: which windows phone ? | Jun 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | if you don't have armed forces on hand to kill them off, they won't care about the problems they've caused for you | Jun 14 11:53 |
| MinceR | they already have your money, and they'll take your money again, and again | Jun 14 11:53 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: windows 8-10 phones have the same problem. When the table of known wifi networks get filled they start nicely dropping wifi connections at random. | Jun 14 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/874934431601094656 | Jun 14 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft is really scared of #Chromebooks in businesses | Jun 14 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk and schools https://t.co/KnSzvTeUU4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome + #gentoo #gnu #linux | Jun 14 11:53 |
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| oiaohm | sebsebseb: hopefully you like expensive 3g/4g phone bills for data usage. | Jun 14 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft is really scared of Chromebooks in businesses and schools | Tux Machines | Jun 14 11:54 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically wait 6 months after buy then allow your service provider to mug you. | Jun 14 11:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @xprashp https://twitter.com/xprashp/status/874948186133196800 | Jun 14 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Lazy Sysadm's Logbook! https://t.co/ADcHCKOr3u | Jun 14 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @rberaldo #ubuntu | Jun 14 12:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Lazy Sysadm’s Logbook | Jun 14 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874953823386820608 | Jun 14 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Docker Getting Certified and Set to Grow in China | Jun 14 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/oQ1KIM4zX3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 14 12:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #server #china #gnu #linux | Jun 14 12:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker Getting Certified and Set to Grow in China | Tux Machines | Jun 14 12:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874954011425861633 | Jun 14 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Quick tip: calculator in the Fedora Workstation overview | Jun 14 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5Eur9Ql1VC (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 12:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 14 12:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quick tip: calculator in the Fedora Workstation overview | Tux Machines | Jun 14 12:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Docker Getting Certified and Set to Grow in...' | Jun 14 12:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sockeyes51_bot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Docker Getting Certified and Set to Grow in...' | Jun 14 12:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Quick tip: calculator in the Fedora Workstation overview...' | Jun 14 12:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874955771284508672 | Jun 14 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mixed #KDE Applications on #FreeBSD | Jun 14 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CPfRz6V6S0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #bsd #unix #freesw | Jun 14 12:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mixed KDE Applications on FreeBSD | Tux Machines | Jun 14 12:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874956288849047552 | Jun 14 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Preps New PPA for #Ubuntu 17.10 Users to Test | Jun 14 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the Latest Linux Kernels https://t.co/RPYzJroE4g | Jun 14 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 14 12:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Preps New PPA for Ubuntu 17.10 Users to Test the Latest Linux Kernels | Tux Machines | Jun 14 12:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Quick tip: calculator in the Fedora Workstation overview...' | Jun 14 12:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Docker Getting Certified and Set to Grow in...' | Jun 14 12:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Mixed #KDE Applications on #FreeBSD https://t.co/CPfRz6V6S0 #bsd #unix...' | Jun 14 12:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Preps New PPA for #Ubuntu 17.10 Users...' | Jun 14 12:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Canonical Preps New PPA for #Ubuntu 17.10 Users...' | Jun 14 13:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited '#Tails 3.0 Anonymous Operating System Officially Released, Based...' | Jun 14 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874968023140114432 | Jun 14 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Prevents Back Doors, Microsoft Patches Some | Jun 14 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YXWh3jxNmT (www.tuxmachines.org) #nsa | Jun 14 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #wannacry #security #debian #gnu #linux | Jun 14 13:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Prevents Back Doors, Microsoft Patches Some | Tux Machines | Jun 14 13:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GNU/Linux Prevents Back Doors, Microsoft Patches Some https://t.co/YXWh3jxNmT...' | Jun 14 13:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/874971443360092160 | Jun 14 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by GNU/Linux Prevents Back Doors, Microsoft Patches Some | Jun 14 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/YXWh3jxNmT (www.tuxmachines.org) #nsa | Jun 14 13:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #wannacry #security #debian #gnu #linux | Jun 14 13:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Patriot unlike you, a draft dodger from...' | Jun 14 13:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump "Funny how the truth can be twisted...' | Jun 14 13:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump "Funny how the truth can...' | Jun 14 14:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Another reason for #ToriesOut 1. https://t.co/DPq9WAx1p4 2....' | Jun 14 14:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelondoneconomic.com | Corbyn tried to pass law to make homes safe last year - the Conservatives rejected it - The London Economic | Jun 14 14:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Another reason for #ToriesOut 1....' | Jun 14 14:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874987497289388032 | Jun 14 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux on #Servers and Networks: #GlusterFS, #Ceph, | Jun 14 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OPNFV, #Containers, #Bitnami, and #Puppet | Jun 14 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux on Servers and Networks: GlusterFS, Ceph, OPNFV, Containers, Bitnami, and Puppet | Tux Machines | Jun 14 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux on #Servers and Networks: #GlusterFS, #Ceph, #OPNFV,...' | Jun 14 14:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux on #Servers and Networks: #GlusterFS, #Ceph, #OPNFV,...' | Jun 14 14:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/874988775633563648 | Jun 14 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/7qGI5PyKQf | Jun 14 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 14 14:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 14 14:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/7qGI5PyKQf #howto #unix #gnu...' | Jun 14 14:58 | |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/hashtag/blockedbytrump?lang=en | Jun 14 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: wrong window? :-) | Jun 14 20:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | How to properly ask out the Queen of Shitty Robots. | Jun 14 20:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When You Want to Wine and Dine a Robot Engineer - Album on Imgur | Jun 14 20:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875076143673733120 | Jun 14 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu and #ROS | Jun 14 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #RaspberryPi | Jun 14 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JTFtpbpcsF (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 14 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #raspi #robotics #freesw | Jun 14 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source TurtleBot 3 Robot Kit Runs Ubuntu and ROS on Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines | Jun 14 20:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu...' | Jun 14 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu...' | Jun 14 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu...' | Jun 14 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875077107365408772 | Jun 14 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, Wireless printing, scanning and #HPLIP | Jun 14 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/X8a9G5JId5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #hp #gnu | Jun 14 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #printing #scanning | Jun 14 20:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux, Wireless printing, scanning and HPLIP | Tux Machines | Jun 14 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #TurtleBot 3 #Robot Kit Runs #Ubuntu...' | Jun 14 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux, Wireless printing, scanning and #HPLIP https://t.co/X8a9G5JId5 #hp...' | Jun 14 20:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875077681850728448 | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlackArch Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now Offers over 1,800 Tools | Tux Machines | Jun 14 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 20:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/875078364738060289 | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS Now | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Offers over 1,800 Tools https://t.co/Mn8d42UgkC | Jun 14 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) # #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 14 21:05 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iridesce57 favourited 'Swapping #Linux for #Windows in #Munich too risky...' | Jun 14 21:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875081694482751488 | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | wall-pluggable #Eero Beacon https://t.co/PxUNokytHD | Jun 14 21:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #router | Jun 14 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable Eero Beacon | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-based Eero mesh router adds Tri-Band plus wall-pluggable...' | Jun 14 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875082291105628160 | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Supported Ubuntu Phones https://t.co/YpSYTBwPIE | Jun 14 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UBports Launch First Stable Ubuntu Touch OTA Update for Supported Ubuntu Phones | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 21:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 14 21:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 14 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875083324632551424 | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | systems https://t.co/7T994vmDjQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #ubuntu #canonical | Jun 14 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer systems | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875083688517787652 | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CwDogkcNe6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #france | Jun 14 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #freesw #freeSoftwarePact #NationalAssembly #fr | Jun 14 21:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free software campaign signs up future French MPs | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Project Sputnik: crazy idea to community driven developer...' | Jun 14 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Free software campaign signs up future French MPs...' | Jun 14 21:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @WigginsMichael favourited 'Free software campaign signs up future French MPs...' | Jun 14 21:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875084686560829440 | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plasma Discover Improvements https://t.co/VQYBld50py | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 14 21:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875085619394949121 | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Init System for GNU/Linux https://t.co/0MLu7jdfLc | Jun 14 21:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #systemd #init | Jun 14 21:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma Discover Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Parrot Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an Immature Init System for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Let's hope that Corbyn's Labour will never...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn You have managed to turn some enemies...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn You have managed to turn...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks If Theresa May does not resign and...' | Jun 14 21:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks If Theresa May does not...' | Jun 14 21:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c' | Jun 14 21:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @RandPaul Meanwhile in KSA... https://t.co/ehC2NUZe6c | Jun 14 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090550399127556 | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Vietnam https://t.co/irrGj35DZg (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenos #gnu #linux #asia | Jun 14 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung setting the foundation for Tizen growth in Vietnam | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875090758289719296 | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 14 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 14 21:42 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in...' | Jun 14 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Parrot #Security OS Devs Mock systemd: It's an...' | Jun 14 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875091767971991558 | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KzNFm8dJrA (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenOS #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung launches Tizen 3.0 powered QLED Signage | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875091997031362560 | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vista10 vs. #Linux #OpenGL Performance On #Kabylake - | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summer 2017 https://t.co/iRNaH3hIOx (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 14 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 14 21:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 vs. Linux OpenGL Performance On Kabylake - Summer 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 14 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#BlackArch #Linux Ethical Hacking and Pen Testing OS...' | Jun 14 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Candy: the Verbification of Video Chat https://t.co/UWTc6SwK5I...' | Jun 14 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Samsung setting the foundation for #Tizen growth in...' | Jun 14 21:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 14 21:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.2 Desktop Environment Brings Many Plasma...' | Jun 14 21:51 | |
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| MinceR | it's not an init system | Jun 14 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/04Qgd | Jun 14 22:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm, using Pidgin. | Jun 15 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | The IRC helper plugins really help a lot. Also, someone figured out how to make Facebook Chat work again with Purple Facebook. | Jun 15 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 15 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like Microsoft is gaining influence with just about everyone in the Free Software circles these days. | Jun 15 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Not to be used for anything good, but it's like some Ra's al Ghul shit going on. | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Your city is so corrupt that we were able to infiltrate all levels of your government." | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 15 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | ReiserFS got some small updates in 4.11.5. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | I guess its still there for legacy reasons. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | SUSE rushed to make it default and managed to get it merged. | Jun 15 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | So there may be some old systems out there that still use it. | Jun 15 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's been 11 years since SUSE switched to Ext3 (now uses Ext4), so maybe it's time to consider retiring it? | Jun 15 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I would be using XFS on this laptop except that it's not possible to shrink an existing file system. You have to xfsdump/xfsrestore. | Jun 15 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | But if you're doing a single desktop install with everything on one partition (Ubuntu style) and never plan to mess with it again, that might be a good use case for XFS. | Jun 15 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | The performance of XFS is better in most cases than Ext4,. Ext4 just got some XFS features tacked onto existing Ext3 code. | Jun 15 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat recommends XFS over Ext4 for volumes over 16 TB, even though Ext4 is capable of much larger volumes. | Jun 15 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | But that doesn't affect me. (500 GB SSD) | Jun 15 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Linux is pretty smallish compared with Windows. | Jun 15 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Even with everything I install, I'm sitting at 11/50 GB used on /. | Jun 15 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 is roughly 40 GB, and that's *after* Microsoft compressed a ton of the folders and caused a performance overhead of dealing with them. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | It would be much larger than that otherwise. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | They need to go on a deleting spree and tell you sorry that Word 95 might not work anymore. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | But they never will. | Jun 15 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | BtrFS is just a huge disappointment. | Jun 15 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | The performance sucks and this is after several years of being declared stable. | Jun 15 02:31 |
| cubexyz | I guess lsx is the champ for being the smallest os | Jun 15 02:34 |
| cubexyz | two 256K images | Jun 15 02:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875140992281792513 | Jun 15 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS | Jun 15 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/8p54LchZ7U (techrights.org) | Jun 15 02:47 |
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| cubexyz | I've got no idea how much disk space I got on lsx | Jun 15 03:00 |
| cubexyz | it took me a while just to get to cc to compile | Jun 15 03:00 |
| cubexyz | the kernel is 11,272 bytes | Jun 15 03:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #wannacry #security #debian #gnu #linux | Jun 15 03:09 |
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| cubexyz | lsx is where BKUNIX came from | Jun 15 03:12 |
| cubexyz | http://rk86.com/frolov/bk0011.htm | Jun 15 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rk86.com | Elektronika BK 0011 (?????? ?? 0011) | Jun 15 03:14 | |
| cubexyz | PDP-11/03, probably the least powerful of all the PDP-11 series | Jun 15 03:18 |
| cubexyz | you could have bought a Heathkit H11 computer in 1978 | Jun 15 03:20 |
| cubexyz | $1295 US dollars at the time | Jun 15 03:20 |
| cubexyz | that's the kit... you still had to put it together | Jun 15 03:21 |
| cubexyz | so yes, I think one could run lsx on the H11 | Jun 15 03:27 |
| cubexyz | even had RX01 compatible 8" floppy drives, like the PDP-11/03 | Jun 15 03:28 |
| cubexyz | quite the collector's item now | Jun 15 03:28 |
| cubexyz | but the compile for lsx does work | Jun 15 03:30 |
| cubexyz | compiler | Jun 15 03:30 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Regarding Wayland again....I notice that my system is faster and more stable with fewer odd behaviors under X. | Jun 15 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it's crap, but it's crap that's as old as I am. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | They've had some time to fix it up. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | I see that Wayland is making progress. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | A year ago, I'm told that 2D games were slideshows. | Jun 15 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: I think that Reiser4 would have worked out better than BtrFS. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | The code existed, it did what it did, and they could have forked it and called it something else. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really the work fixing for wayland is also removing crap out of X11 applicaitons as well. | Jun 15 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so wayland work I see as required work to clean up existing messes. | Jun 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Yeah, I noticed a bunch of cleanup patches that removed support for things like Linux 2.4 on PowerPC. | Jun 15 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Who is using modern X on Linux 2.4 on PowerPC in 2016?" | Jun 15 05:21 |
| cubexyz | I use linux 2.4, but not powerpc :) | Jun 15 05:21 |
| cubexyz | also linux 2.2 | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | All sorts of garbage that nobody ever took out. | Jun 15 05:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: with a modern X11 server? | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz: Well, probably not with X Server 1.17. | Jun 15 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | You'd have to be using Linux 2.4 with a modern X server on PowerPC. I don't even know if that's possible. | Jun 15 05:22 |
| cubexyz | XFree86 4.3.0 | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Probably nobody does. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| oiaohm | Like really 4.9 and newer kernels work on old PowerPC hardware. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| cubexyz | is that modern enough for you? :) | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | No, the last time I ran XFree86 was 2004. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| oiaohm | X.org has become filled with stuff to support combinations that really no one should ever use. | Jun 15 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | It was on Ubuntu 4.10. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | The Live CD was separate from the installer CD. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | You could check out a demo of the system in Live mode but you had to insert CD 2 and install using the Debian installer. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| cubexyz | oh and I also use XFree86 3.3.3 sometimes | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | They just changed it to say Ubuntu and pull in either the Server or Desktop packages. | Jun 15 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | No KDE or anything. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| cubexyz | I have an interest in historical X | Jun 15 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was a very rough release. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you like running historic systems. running stuff for production there are combinations that just should never exist. | Jun 15 05:25 |
| oiaohm | So like X11 currentl that is currently supported running on a not currently supported kernel should not really happen. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was pretty cool though. They sent me a disk set and I checked it out on a PC I was running Windows XP on and Ubuntu ran so much better that I stopped and backed up all my files and installed Ubuntu and let it take over the entire disk. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| cubexyz | Canonical used to mail out free CDs | Jun 15 05:26 |
| cubexyz | I think they stopped doing that though | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yep, I think I have them somewhere. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | They did. | Jun 15 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | They used to send you x86 32 and 64-bit and PowerPC Mac. | Jun 15 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then they dropped you to a limit of one order. Then they dropped PowerPC Mac from the default. Then they eventually dropped the PPC arch entirely, at least officially. | Jun 15 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | I know there's Intel Mac images still. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of people like to buy Macs and run Linux on them for some reason. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's *legal* for Apple to void the hardware warranty because of it, but they'll probably try to anyway. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| oiaohm | Really Macs running Linux is kind of torture. | Jun 15 05:28 |
| cubexyz | there's some DEC aficionados that still run Vax and PDP-11 | Jun 15 05:29 |
| cubexyz | so I'm not the most impractical :) | Jun 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Doesn't Linux have to have an HFS+ boot partition and identify as Mac OS to boot? | Jun 15 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Mostly they buy a Mac then they find out their software is limited then go desperation. | Jun 15 05:29 |
| cubexyz | I'm only running emulators for that | Jun 15 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | The HFS+ driver in Linux is not exactly something you want to use as a production system. It's probably good enough for an EFI boot partition. | Jun 15 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | macOS sucks. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | They "deprecated" OpenGL and left it at 4.2. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | So the only way to make your app perform is port it to Metal. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's blackmail. | Jun 15 05:31 |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple Really the instructions change based on what apple hardware it is. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | InstallingDebianOn/Apple - Debian Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/r04dv ] | Jun 15 05:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple doesn't allow third party OpenGL or Vulkan driver. At least you can install one on Windows. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| oiaohm | Linux you do have options of more than 1 opengl driver. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So all of those older video game ports to Mac on Steam that the developers have in maintenance mode are never going to be ported. | Jun 15 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | So their performance won't get better. | Jun 15 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa supports Vulkan, but each release continues to optimize OpenGL too, so old apps run better over time. | Jun 15 05:33 |
| oiaohm | https://moltengl.com/ yep want standard conforming opengl/vulkan on mac hardware pay. | Jun 15 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-moltengl.com | Molten – Vulkan and faster OpenGL ES on iOS and macOS | Jun 15 05:34 | |
| DaemonFC | it says ES | Jun 15 05:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the opengl is still cut back. | Jun 15 05:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://mesamatrix.net/ ES does hide a few very useful extensions. | Jun 15 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mesamatrix.net | The OpenGL vs Mesa matrix | Jun 15 05:35 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I understand there's a feature in Fedora at least that has a stub in place of libgl.so.1 that redirects to the proper version based on the drivers you use. | Jun 15 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | It apparently is to solve the Nvidia driver clobbers Mesa's libgl problem that has been around since forever. | Jun 15 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/58 | Jun 15 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sunweavers.net | Ayatana Indicators | sunweaver's NET | Jun 15 05:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Good. It was crap anyway. | Jun 15 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible but you can load the TopIcons Plus extension and put them back up where the system tray used to be. | Jun 15 05:52 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/NVIDIA/libglvnd there is work to cure the libgl.so.1 clobber problem for good. | Jun 15 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - NVIDIA/libglvnd: The GL Vendor-Neutral Dispatch library | Jun 15 06:01 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the old alternative solution of altering the libgl.so.1 link fails badly on PRIME systems when you have intel graphics and Nvidia closed source both needing opengl drivers at the same time. | Jun 15 06:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so this leads to libglvnd being a proper dispatch system. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: I wonder how hard writing a GTK+ 3 theme is. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | I see a lot of them, but no ports of Nodoka or Nimbus. | Jun 15 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | Two of the best themes for GNOME 2. | Jun 15 06:04 |
| MinceR | 15 011650 < DaaemonFC> Says he recommends noatime for ext2/3/4 on SSDs to get writes down. He notes that there really aren't many downsides unless you run mutt, and | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | even then you can work around it. | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | is it even worth worrying about writes to SSDs now? | Jun 15 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Well, they're pointless writes. | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | afaik they can take a ridiculous number of writes already, if they live long enough | Jun 15 06:05 |
| MinceR | and firmware bugs are more likely to kill them off | Jun 15 06:05 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Vulkan in standard mandates existence of a dispatch system. | Jun 15 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | So there's that, and they cause CPU and disk activity which can prevent modern mobile platforms from more time in deep sleep. | Jun 15 06:06 |
| MinceR | or they just reach a limit in their counter and give up (intel) | Jun 15 06:06 |
| MinceR | 15 065227 < DaemonFC> GNOME's default tray behavior is horrible | Jun 15 06:08 |
| MinceR | did they pull a shuttlecock? :> | Jun 15 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: "Legacy" system tray icons are put in this little widget on the bottom left that expands out when you mouseover it. | Jun 15 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | TopIcons Plus puts them back where they would be in GNOME 2. | Jun 15 06:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 06:10 |
| MinceR | what do they have instead of "legacy" system tray? | Jun 15 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: All the system stuff in one menu. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | But you can alter how it behaves with MOAR extensions. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | I have about 15 of them loaded to make GNOME 3 usable again. | Jun 15 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's like 80-90 of them listed in Software on Fedora. | Jun 15 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I use the top panel but I use Dash To Dock on the bottom set to intelligently hide. | Jun 15 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | Gives me back some monitor space. | Jun 15 06:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 15 06:13 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/1840/ | Jun 15 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Genetic Testing Results | Jun 15 06:51 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-21 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 15 07:30 | |
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| TechDefender | Hello, anybody here? my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 08:38 |
| TechDefender | Besides the EFF, where is a good place to look for that kind of help? | Jun 15 08:38 |
| TechDefender | Also, is there a better way to contact TechRights, besides IRC? all i see is PGP key, but no email address.. | Jun 15 08:42 |
| TechDefender | hello? | Jun 15 08:56 |
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| schestowitz | [02:04] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Did you see Torvalds' group photo with Microsoft? | Jun 15 09:29 |
| schestowitz | Only Microsoft or a large group photo, which happens to include them? | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875268603704168449 | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 14/6/2017: New #BlackArch Linux ISO and #Q4OS | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 1.8.6, Orion https://t.co/8p54LchZ7U (techrights.org) | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #techrights #gnu #linux | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2017: New BlackArch Linux ISO and Q4OS 1.8.6, Orion | Techrights | Jun 15 09:30 | |
| schestowitz | I remember his Vista 7 photo op in Japan... | Jun 15 09:30 |
| TechDefender | Hello, my friend is looking for help. Looking for Lawyers to help in suing Microsoft, and appealing a case | Jun 15 09:30 |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: hi | Jun 15 09:31 |
| schestowitz | what's the nature of this case? | Jun 15 09:31 |
| TechDefender | Restore CDs | Jun 15 09:31 |
| schestowitz | which country are you in if you don't mind me asking | Jun 15 09:32 |
| TechDefender | Which are free to download. but they are saying it is not free (akin to an actual Windows CD) | Jun 15 09:32 |
| TechDefender | USA | Jun 15 09:32 |
| schestowitz | I once spoke to a lawyer here who won a case against Microsoft | Jun 15 09:33 |
| TechDefender | yay | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | recent: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/230794-woman-wins-10000-judgment-against-microsoft-for-forced-windows-10-upgrade | Jun 15 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Woman wins $10,000 judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade - ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/r05ia ] | Jun 15 09:33 | |
| schestowitz | maybe pursue this same lawyer | Jun 15 09:33 |
| TechDefender | Nice | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | as in her case | Jun 15 09:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users/ | Jun 15 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seattletimes.com | Microsoft draws flak for pushing Windows 10 on PC users | The Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/pf97k ] | Jun 15 09:34 | |
| schestowitz | "The Seattle Times reports that Teri Goldstein, of Sausalito, California, sued Microsoft after a failed Windows 10 upgrade left her system performing poorly, prone to crashing, and reportedly unusable for multiple days. Given the general issues associated with performing in-place upgrades, even successful ones, it’s not surprising that some users would run into problems. Goldstein reached out to Microsoft customer service to attempt to | Jun 15 09:34 |
| schestowitz | resolve her issues, but filed suit against the company once it failed to resolve her problems. Her $10,000 figure reflected estimated lost compensation as well as the cost of a new system." | Jun 15 09:34 |
| TechDefender | thank you. on TechRights.org , what are their emails? | Jun 15 09:34 |
| TechDefender | also, who is there to contact besides the EFF? | Jun 15 09:34 |
| schestowitz | EFF doesn't go after Microsoft | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | They'r cowardly on the matter | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | same for Apple | Jun 15 09:35 |
| schestowitz | you can try doctorow@craphound.com | Jun 15 09:36 |
| TechDefender | Yes, a few at the EFF , seem disinterested, but the EFF, is big... so the must be someone there interested in the case | Jun 15 09:36 |
| schestowitz | esp. it it concerns DRM somehow | Jun 15 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Doctorow is with the EFF | Jun 15 09:37 |
| schestowitz | he's a Ubuntu user, hates Microsofgt | Jun 15 09:37 |
| TechDefender | i like his speeches | Jun 15 09:37 |
| TechDefender | thanks for his email. should i tell him u sent me? or just that i found his email on the internet? | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | it's OK | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | whichever | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | go get em (Microsoft) | Jun 15 09:38 |
| schestowitz | let us know fi you need info | Jun 15 09:40 |
| TechDefender | yes,, any help is appreciated.. not just lawyers, also PR, kinda stuff | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | we have a repository of about 10k microsoft-centric articles, plus some leaked evidence from them catalogued | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | negative publicity for them helps FOSS | Jun 15 09:40 |
| schestowitz | and helps protect FOSS from their mole, entryism, EEE | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TechDefender | What is the best way to communicate with you guys? IRC? email, phone, etc? | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | as many have been sold the lie of "new Microsoft", which is laughable (a PR campaign) | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | IRC is good | Jun 15 09:41 |
| schestowitz | more people who can respond | Jun 15 09:41 |
| TechDefender | What is Doctorow's best video? i'll send it to my friend | Jun 15 09:42 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Jun 15 09:44 |
| TechDefender | i'm trying to find it-- the one where he says you have to treat your friends like they've fallen off the life boat and need help, he starts crying at the end | Jun 15 09:45 |
| TechDefender | Is there another IRC room, that is best for getting help with this case? | Jun 15 09:46 |
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| TechDefender | can i PM you? | Jun 15 09:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875277066610126848 | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Rosa #LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ab8omEe6Fd (www.tuxmachines.org) #mdv | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mandriva #russia #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rosa LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875277251935432705 | Jun 15 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz WiFi | Jun 15 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5gs4BfAISQ (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 15 10:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz WiFi | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rosa #LXQt Edition's Flexibility Sets It Apart https://t.co/ab8omEe6Fd...' | Jun 15 10:04 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny, Linux-friendly i.MX6 module steps up to 5GHz...' | Jun 15 10:14 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: sorry, was afk | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | wife pulled the plug on the laptop by accident | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | had to reboot | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | didn't see any PMs if you sent any | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I prefer not to receive PMs | Jun 15 10:15 |
| TechDefender | why not? | Jun 15 10:15 |
| schestowitz | long story, doesn't matter now | Jun 15 10:16 |
| schestowitz | workflow-related | Jun 15 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280303589388290 | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875280986690510848 | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Dell release new Ubuntu developer computers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 17.10: Finally, an exciting Ubuntu release https://t.co/hfAszGWzVY...' | Jun 15 10:19 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: okay | Jun 15 10:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: https://temp.pm/?xnN9ESdlqTlFD1961EW5eO3C7-30m-mQs5DC8KGsG8Ri7xPQ2M8Jsx5-N | Jun 15 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Temp.PM - Temporary Private Message [ http://ur1.ca/r05rg ] | Jun 15 10:22 | |
| schestowitz | Got it | Jun 15 10:33 |
| TechDefender | what do you think? any ideas? | Jun 15 10:34 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 10:51 |
| TechDefender | hi | Jun 15 10:51 |
| sebsebseb | TechDefender: h | Jun 15 10:53 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875281564128739329 | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Canonical and #Dell release new #Ubuntu developer | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz computers https://t.co/uHD4eNA5z9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 15 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875294915500093440 | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 15 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875295678527934464 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 26 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VLCpbqLwtG (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dnf #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #f26 | Jun 15 11:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack for Fedora 26 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 11:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release of the latest candidates of dnf stack...' | Jun 15 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican wave scores...' | Jun 15 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Theresa May's bizarre out-of-time Mexican...' | Jun 15 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT, which are...' | Jun 15 11:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks That's where LEDE or OpenWRT,...' | Jun 15 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875305089342345221 | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/5gXiptqhzr | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 11:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 11:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You watch fake...' | Jun 15 11:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump That doesn't cut it. You...' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder. https://t.co/JPVCEE6hIF | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him by the shoulder....' | Jun 15 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875306867517526016 | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 12:02 | |
| schestowitz | TechDefender: I want to write about it | Jun 15 12:05 |
| schestowitz | but it can affect the case | Jun 15 12:05 |
| schestowitz | so would only do so with consent from you | Jun 15 12:05 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: no, not yet. | Jun 15 12:05 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i am mainly looking for help for him. Well, what do you mean "write about it"? | Jun 15 12:07 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks for respecting his privacy, also :) | Jun 15 12:08 |
| TechDefender | i can ask him a question, if you want, or you can talk to him yourself later. | Jun 15 12:08 |
| schestowitz | I understand. | Jun 15 12:10 |
| schestowitz | It can compromise the outcome. | Jun 15 12:10 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: well, we all want the same outcome right? | Jun 15 12:10 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: do you want me to give him your email, phone number, etc? if you want to talk to him? | Jun 15 12:12 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: since, i think we are on the same "side" here, he would probably be happy to talk to you. And you know Cory Doctorow? Is this something that he would be interested in? | Jun 15 12:17 |
| schestowitz | phone is usually a waste of time for these things | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | as one can't take note | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | based on experience talking to patent people | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | no links, no nothing... | Jun 15 12:18 |
| schestowitz | best come to IRC every now and then to drop info, preferably things that can be published | Jun 15 12:19 |
| TechDefender | i think both voice, and messaging combined, is the best way to communicate | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | you or others can also write guest posts about it, clarifying how Microsoft erred | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | it's on-topic | Jun 15 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Patent is a messy area admitting you knew about something when it come to court damages value goes up. | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | voice is good for some things, like family | Jun 15 12:19 |
| schestowitz | not when you need quotes, links etc. | Jun 15 12:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is putting together a website, of stuff that he wants to publish | Jun 15 12:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjflNTd2kho this is from FOSDEM 2017 I guess you have seen it. | Jun 15 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSDEM 2017: "This is why I drink: a discussion of Fedora's legal state" by Tom Callaway - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qixsn ] | Jun 15 12:23 | |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 12:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you have not seen that video you will like it. | Jun 15 12:25 |
| MinceR | i think i haven't | Jun 15 12:26 |
| MinceR | though "this is why i drink" sounds familiar | Jun 15 12:26 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IYh4E | Jun 15 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitten can't stop kissing cyclist who saved her - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 12:32 | |
| schestowitz | how do we know he saved it? :-p | Jun 15 12:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe the cat say, "let me down, let me down, please..." | Jun 15 12:40 |
| schestowitz | it's also dangerous, the cat can fall down and get squashed | Jun 15 12:40 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 15 12:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875307421404725248 | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security Leftovers: #CherryBlossom , #WannaCry | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Microsoft Spin, & #Samsung https://t.co/ttVuOpN4rm | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #wikileaks #vaullllllt7 #belkin | Jun 15 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linksys | Jun 15 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, WannaCry Microsoft Spin, and Samsung Negligence | Tux Machines | Jun 15 12:47 | |
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| schestowitz | good! | Jun 15 13:35 |
| schestowitz | Facebook apologist https://openbytes.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/privacy-social-media-and-the-perception-of-evil/ | Jun 15 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openbytes.wordpress.com | Privacy, social media and the perception of evil? – Tim Wilson | Jun 15 13:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mastermikeg/status/875337713481854977 | Jun 15 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mastermikeg: @schestowitz https://t.co/ESCT9r0yDW | Jun 15 14:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://chaos.social/users/pinkprius/updates/17393 | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chaos.social | Jun 15 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | "ISPs != judges/cops" | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | They'll soon be. You just wait. | Jun 15 14:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875344042355298305 | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #elementaryOS Loki 0.4.1 https://t.co/PBMbfaPkoN | Jun 15 14:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 14:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | REVIEWS: Devuan 1.0.0, Slackel 7.0, Lubuntu 17.04, and elementary OS Loki 0.4.1 | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:29 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can think of ISP as private security problem. Duty of care requirement for users/customers can cause nightmares. | Jun 15 14:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'REVIEWS: #Devuan 1.0.0, #Slackel 7.0, #Lubuntu 17.04, and...' | Jun 15 14:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875347338885300224 | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 14:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 14:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875362998545731584 | Jun 15 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Older #Qt and #KDE News, Development Updates | Jun 15 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/gd9nSrYJYa (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kdab #gsoc #kubuntu | Jun 15 16:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Gaming on #gnu #linux | Jun 15 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Variscite Launches New Variants for the DART-6UL SoM with Improved Certified Wi-Fi/BT Module with 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n Support | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeNAS 11.0 Released and #OpenBSD Server Shown Off | Jun 15 17:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeNAS 11.0 Released and OpenBSD Server Shown Off | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875392559048261632 | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #amdgpu #vulkan #madmax #games #drm | Jun 15 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #mesa | Jun 15 17:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux and Cairo | Tux Machines | Jun 15 17:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 #amdgpu #vulkan...' | Jun 15 17:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 #amdgpu #vulkan...' | Jun 15 17:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Graphics in #Linux and #Cairo https://t.co/iODFsgWMs4 | Jun 15 17:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For | Jun 15 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux | Jun 15 18:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #multimedia #gnu #linux | Jun 15 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video Editor For Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Avidemux Video Editor An Easy To Use Video...' | Jun 15 18:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:23 | |
| cubexyz | just avoid Microsoft... don't use their software | Jun 15 18:25 |
| cubexyz | that's the best advice I can think of | Jun 15 18:25 |
| cubexyz | binaries without source just isn't a good situation | Jun 15 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875403194247020545 | Jun 15 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft | Jun 15 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Windows, University on Broken #Voting Systems | Jun 15 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: University College London 'Burned' by Microsoft Windows, University on Broken Voting Systems, Coredumps on Web Servers and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT | Jun 15 18:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 15 18:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More of today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 18:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 18:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #UCL 'Burned' by #Microsoft #Windows, University...' | Jun 15 18:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha...' | Jun 15 18:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 18:28 | |
| cubexyz | can't believe they're still debating doze in Munich | Jun 15 18:33 |
| cubexyz | very lame | Jun 15 18:33 |
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| razielle_tzu | yeah but isn't the mayor a fan boy? | Jun 15 18:49 |
| cubexyz | well microsoft wants to move German HQ to Munich so there's probably all sorts of nonsense going on | Jun 15 18:54 |
| cubexyz | Dieter is a fan of Microsoft because it's probably expedient for him | Jun 15 18:57 |
| cubexyz | so who knows what the real deal is | Jun 15 18:57 |
| razielle_tzu | M$ and Dieter will but no one else | Jun 15 18:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'More of today's howtos https://t.co/aZQZd1q1DT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 19:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/875413195581796352 | Jun 15 19:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 19:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 19:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 19:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:04 | |
| cubexyz | a certain AC/DC song comes to mind :-/ | Jun 15 19:04 |
| cubexyz | politicians who know almost nothing making IT policy is stupid | Jun 15 19:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i agree but it's not likely to change much anywhere | Jun 15 19:06 |
| cubexyz | my own city's municipal IT is a bad joke | Jun 15 19:09 |
| razielle_tzu | same with my county's from what i've heard | Jun 15 19:09 |
| razielle_tzu | i mean my mum's partner works for it and has said if i can really do what i do for the computer club i'm more qualified than 3/4 of the staff there | Jun 15 19:10 |
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| cubexyz | tried to pay a parking ticket online (city of oshawa web site) | Jun 15 19:17 |
| cubexyz | not only did it not work on firefox on linux, but also not in firefox on windows | Jun 15 19:17 |
| razielle_tzu | o.O | Jun 15 19:17 |
| cubexyz | only IE on doze worked | Jun 15 19:17 |
| razielle_tzu | running a small LTSP network with a custom image and a tiny webserver makes me more qualified than 3/4 of the local council staff | Jun 15 19:18 |
| cubexyz | a lot of the early ISPs used FreeBSD so in many ways things have become worse | Jun 15 19:22 |
| razielle_tzu | yeah | Jun 15 19:22 |
| cubexyz | but city council here is useless | Jun 15 19:23 |
| cubexyz | incompetent I'd say | Jun 15 19:23 |
| razielle_tzu | lots are | Jun 15 19:24 |
| cubexyz | but on the plus side there's a lot of smart european programmers | Jun 15 19:25 |
| razielle_tzu | true | Jun 15 19:25 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#UBports Launch First Stable #UbuntuTouch #OTA Update for...' | Jun 15 19:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder if OpenIndiana would run on this laptop at all. | Jun 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I used OpenSolaris on a junk Compaq laptop that I got at Walmart.... | Jun 15 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | It surprised me that it worked. | Jun 15 19:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited 'Leftovers: #OSS and #Sharing https://t.co/d8FShSc6Oo #freesw #foss #libreoffice...' | Jun 15 19:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 15 19:39 | |
| razielle_tzu | i haven't tried anything but linux and BSD in ages | Jun 15 19:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/157/ | Jun 15 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 157 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 19:45 | |
| MinceR | http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/159/ | Jun 15 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lfg.co | Tiny Dick Adventures - 159 - An LFG Spinoff Comic | Jun 15 19:51 | |
| cubexyz | not clicking on that | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | :D | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | it's sfw | Jun 15 19:59 |
| MinceR | the "Dick" is a character called Richard | Jun 15 20:00 |
| cubexyz | there's tons of interesting OSes | Jun 15 20:03 |
| razielle_tzu | i know, i just haven't played | Jun 15 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875422643234775040 | Jun 15 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by KDE: #SimpleMenu, #Kdenlive 17.04.2, and #Krita 4.0 | Jun 15 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Pre-Alpha https://t.co/rCWlbFf74E (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kde #freesw #gnu #linux | Jun 15 20:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Simple Menu, Kdenlive 17.04.2, and Krita 4.0 Pre-Alpha | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:06 | |
| cubexyz | Plan 9 was kind of dead but... | Jun 15 20:10 |
| cubexyz | https://notamonadtutorial.com/harvey-an-operating-system-with-plan-9-s-shadow-3081414e5f0b | Jun 15 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-notamonadtutorial.com | Harvey, an operating system with Plan 9's shadow – This is not a Monad tutorial [ http://ur1.ca/r098o ] | Jun 15 20:10 | |
| cubexyz | I do think Slack is better for work | Jun 15 20:11 |
| cubexyz | even for games it's not bad, although there's some hand-turning needed | Jun 15 20:12 |
| cubexyz | I was quite happy running Linux 2.4 for a lot of things | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | Loki and LGP games, scanning, printing, web server, etc | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | but the web _browser_ that was a different story | Jun 15 20:17 |
| cubexyz | I never found a good solution for that | Jun 15 20:17 |
| MinceR | the web sucks massively | Jun 15 20:17 |
| MinceR | it has become fashionable to only support CrashKit and Blink | Jun 15 20:18 |
| cubexyz | I got stuck on icecat 2.0.0.11-g1 | Jun 15 20:18 |
| MinceR | i'm mostly running palemoon | Jun 15 20:18 |
| cubexyz | can't remember how old that was, but it must be pretty old | Jun 15 20:18 |
| MinceR | but even allowing all scripts and maliciousness i still get a lot of missing functionality | Jun 15 20:19 |
| MinceR | recently i tried to view an embedded map, couldn't see it in palemoon or iceweasel, had to use rekonq | Jun 15 20:19 |
| cubexyz | what, google maps? | Jun 15 20:21 |
| cubexyz | there's not too many web types testing on old browsers | Jun 15 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I'm one of the few | Jun 15 20:22 |
| cubexyz | I test on FC1, vector (various versions), slack, openbsd, chromeos, mint | Jun 15 20:23 |
| MinceR | no, it was osm-based | Jun 15 20:23 |
| MinceR | this one: http://xn--allestrungen-9ib.de/stoerung/deutsche-telekom/karte/ | Jun 15 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xn--allestrungen-9ib.de | Telekom Störung? Aktuelle Probleme und Störungsstelle | Alle Störungen [ http://ur1.ca/r09bn ] | Jun 15 20:23 | |
| cubexyz | yeah, didn't work on vector... not surprised | Jun 15 20:26 |
| cubexyz | works on google chrome 56 though | Jun 15 20:27 |
| cubexyz | ah, openstreetmap | Jun 15 20:27 |
| cubexyz | and I spoke too soon... it actually did work on vector | Jun 15 20:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#FreeBSD -Based #TrueOS Gets New Stable Update, Adds...' | Jun 15 20:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for @jeremycorbyn ...' | Jun 15 20:28 | |
| cubexyz | on vector it switches to google maps | Jun 15 20:28 |
| cubexyz | vector is stuck on firefox 16.02 :) | Jun 15 20:29 |
| cubexyz | and guess what... I'm also stuck on HOMM3 1.3.1a | Jun 15 20:30 |
| MinceR | and OSM itself works fine on palemoon | Jun 15 20:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @WBAI @JesselynRadack Still waiting for...' | Jun 15 20:30 | |
| cubexyz | is OSM foss? | Jun 15 20:33 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 15 20:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875435421500555264 | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 20:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:37 | |
| cubexyz | oh yeah I remember now | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437143765565440 | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #licensing #sharing | Jun 15 20:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting Started with Open Source Licenses | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| cubexyz | palemoon gave me XPCOMGlueLoad error | Jun 15 20:38 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Getting Started with Open Source Licenses https://t.co/HH6rL9rcY2 #freesw...' | Jun 15 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875437502508613632 | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pLrq4vDauE (www.tuxmachines.org) performance | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #benchmark | Jun 15 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 20:40 | |
| cubexyz | I got seamonkey on slack... it uses a lot less memory than chrome | Jun 15 20:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Corsair Force MP500 240GB M.2 SSD On #Linux...' | Jun 15 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875439539732525056 | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 4.13, According to #Canonical https://t.co/OHJiIiDNVt | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use Linux Kernel 4.13, According to Canonical | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You're all in this together, playing partisan...' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You're all in this together,...' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Trump Tried to Convince NSA Chief to Absolve Him of Any Russian Collusion: Report | Jun 15 20:48 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw | Jun 15 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If Doom was done today (Part 1) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r09hr ] | Jun 15 20:48 | |
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| schestowitz | haha, classic | Jun 15 20:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Feeling the heat now https://t.co/D7Bm9dToSD' | Jun 15 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875440872539602944 | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 15 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 20:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 20:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 20:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/NpBGExXosw #android #linux #google' | Jun 15 20:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives of many...' | Jun 15 20:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Crooked Trump destroyed the lives...' | Jun 15 21:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented decades of...' | Jun 15 21:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/5KwmKg2.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/5KwmKg2 ) | Jun 15 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Right way to use a fidget spinner | Jun 15 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Right way to use a fidget spinner - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 21:01 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/original/N/A/8/J/NA8J6Mi (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/iUIbs ) | Jun 15 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pick your fighter - Album on Imgur | Jun 15 21:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Thankfully, some people have documented...' | Jun 15 21:07 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/a/8O5z7 | Jun 15 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 15 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 15 21:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has appointed Murdoch's...' | Jun 15 21:17 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Obviously, NVIDIA users didn't pay enough for the device. | Jun 15 21:18 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Meanwhile, Theresa May has...' | Jun 15 21:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May: did Murdoch...' | Jun 15 21:18 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 15 21:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @SueHayman1 Tom Watson asks May:...' | Jun 15 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, Picard just made some Vorbis files unplayable with gstreamer-based apps. | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875452475142135808 | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 15 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks like I need to rip them again and hand tag them all. | Jun 15 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CyberSecurity, Cryptocoin, and SMB | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: #CyberSecurity, #Cryptocoin, and #SMB https://t.co/ryGtxoHaSD' | Jun 15 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ShakespeareITW/status/875452865699094532 | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ShakespeareITW https://t.co/U9pd7OSX7I (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw #freedom | Jun 15 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 15.4 review - All that glitters is not gold | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875453189738213380 | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development News: Glibc, KDevelop, Stack Overflow Survey, and PostgreSQL | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @TucsonCode retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454116826300416 | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee | Jun 15 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Openwashing and Attacks on FOSS, OSS Leftovers https://t.co/KDZ1ihpmLA...' | Jun 15 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @programminbuddy retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875454934379921408 | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.26.3 and More https://t.co/IPRVi0jKNl | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 15 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: IBM & Canonical, LXD Containers. Mir 0.26.3 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/875455282469625857 | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Survey, and #PostgreSQL https://t.co/uupOAjKXnZ | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #programming | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875456046134734848 | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More) | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j2CNCOMh2u (www.tuxmachines.org) #f25 #gnu | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 15 21:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers, Red Hat,and Fedora (New ISO and More) | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ErrorTeamWeb retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Development News: #Glibc, #KDevelop, #StackOverflow Survey, and #PostgreSQL...' | Jun 15 21:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 21:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: #IBM & #Canonical, #LXD #Containers. #Mir...' | Jun 15 21:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers, #RedHat, and #Fedora (New ISO and More)...' | Jun 15 21:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457092684881920 | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux | Jun 15 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Wonder Boy, Dying Light, LandTraveller, and Two Worlds II | Tux Machines | Jun 15 21:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 21:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457501034029057 | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 15 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 22:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Jun 15 22:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875457917117374466 | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines | Jun 15 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 15 22:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers and Howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 15 22:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @codeappsweb favourited 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: #WonderBoy, #DyingLight, #LandTraveller, and #TwoWorlds II https://t.co/yL6nBj9h9a...' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software https://t.co/ZOIDEoyFZI #freesw' | Jun 15 22:03 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/0VGDTsk.gifv (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/0VGDTsk ) | Jun 15 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today | Jun 15 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My neighbor's cat came by for a visit today - GIF on Imgur | Jun 15 22:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers and Howtos https://t.co/fmXjJhS0aL #howto #unix #gnu #linux...' | Jun 15 22:14 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/DPHEaz3.gifv | Jun 15 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "Damn, It's a good thing I didn't trip over that"!! | Jun 15 22:15 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In case you didn't notice, it's Russia :) | Jun 15 22:18 |
| MinceR | i noticed | Jun 15 22:18 |
| MinceR | from the license plate :> | Jun 15 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yeah %) | Jun 15 22:22 |
| oiaohm | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/15/pirate-bay-european-court-of-justice-rules-infringing-copyright-torrent-sites this will get interesting. | Jun 15 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | European court of justice rules Pirate Bay is infringing copyright | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/r0a1x ] | Jun 15 22:25 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 16 01:24 | |
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| TechDefender | Hello, what other groups are like the EFF, Repair.org, FSF.org ? any others? | Jun 16 04:07 |
| cubexyz | since you mention repair.org I'll add ifixit.com | Jun 16 05:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#GNOME and #GTK News https://t.co/OsQow2JfXN #gnu #linux #debian...' | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News | Tux Machines | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 05:00 | |
| TechDefender | thanks. Who is the most 'powerful, influential' person, against Microsoft? | Jun 16 05:01 |
| TechDefender | for PR, lawsuit, etc | Jun 16 05:01 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jun 16 05:02 |
| TechDefender | is there a list somewhere? :) | Jun 16 05:02 |
| cubexyz | there was groklaw but I'm not sure if it's still active | Jun 16 05:04 |
| cubexyz | http://www.groklaw.net/ | Jun 16 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Jun 16 05:04 | |
| TechDefender | btw, if anyone sent me any PM's or messages today, i didn't get them. please send again | Jun 16 05:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the Linux world is like hurding cats. There is no real super strong absolute dominate leaders. | Jun 16 05:07 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: haha, well any help is appreciated :) | Jun 16 05:08 |
| cubexyz | David Boies was the DOJ lawyer in the United States vs Microsoft case | Jun 16 05:08 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: thanks | Jun 16 05:10 |
| cubexyz | the anti-Bill Gates is really people like Henry Spencer and Richard Stallman | Jun 16 05:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: like a open source project needing legal advice http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ you have this group. | Jun 16 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | Software Freedom Law Center | Jun 16 05:11 | |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Spencer | Jun 16 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Henry Spencer - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c7i ] | Jun 16 05:11 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: multi staff from SFLC give presentations through the year. | Jun 16 05:11 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy then you have this group and then EFF and a few others. | Jun 16 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Software Freedom Conservancy - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0c84 ] | Jun 16 05:14 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: all of them are willing to attempt to deal with companies doing the wrong things. And at time this includes Microsoft like when microsoft iso image writing tool they released closed source turned out to be based on a GPL protected work. | Jun 16 05:16 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: thanks! | Jun 16 05:20 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 05:21 |
| TechDefender | yeh, Eben Moglen is great. But i remember reading that he retired/left the FSF? what happened | Jun 16 05:21 |
| TechDefender | cubelog: u have more info on why/how Henry Spencer fights MS? | Jun 16 05:26 |
| TechDefender | Is there someone in charge of TechRights.org to contact? | Jun 16 05:27 |
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| schestowitz | you can contact in the channel | Jun 16 05:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't understand | Jun 16 06:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz:hey, thanks for helping before, if u sent me a message, or PM i didn't get it, even if i was signed in (my scrollback was set too low) | Jun 16 06:00 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 06:27 |
| MinceR | http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-06-16/chinese-satellite-breaks-quantum-entanglement-distance-record/8620240 | Jun 16 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Chinese scientists use satellite to smash quantum entanglement distance record - Science News - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/r0csk ] | Jun 16 06:40 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/LWn8e | Jun 16 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imaginary Castles Art - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 06:43 | |
| MinceR | https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/15/seven-percent-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows-and-thats-not-even-the-scary-part/ | Jun 16 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The surprising number of American adults who think chocolate milk comes from brown cows - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/r0cve ] | Jun 16 06:51 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: So much for Microsoft Office for the Web... | Jun 16 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | "I need to edit a DOCX document (because the company that requested to fill out the form doesn't have proper LaTeX templates, blehhh) while preserving the formatting as much as possible. MS Office Online was indeed the first thing I tried, but... Believe it or not, it doesn't actually preserve formatting. Yeap. >_< Not only that, but it (yes, the web app itself) crashes every time I copy-paste table contents. And it's overall hilario | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | usly slow. | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to run MS Word Viewer on Wine, and it works, but... It can't handle DOCX files without converting them into DOC, which, guess what, doesn't preserve formatting! Now I could try and see if MS Office 365 works on Wine, but last I heard it wasn't working that well. | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Next time I might just say screw the formatting and do it in Google Docs... Or LibreOffice Online." | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Found on Phoronix | Jun 16 06:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 06:54 |
| MinceR | m$ office won't even preserve formatting between the same version | Jun 16 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It depends on which Office format you're using and which version of Office and how many times and in what ways you have edited the file. | Jun 16 06:55 |
| MinceR | and on which computer you open it | Jun 16 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's why I gave up and purchased StarOffice 8.0 back in the 90s for school stuff. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | and sometimes it just reflows the document for no reason | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: I got up to the register and it rang up for a penny. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | and no two attempts to do so are alike | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | The manager said "Eh, just give it to him.". | Jun 16 06:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, maybe not 90s. | Jun 16 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | When *was* 8.0? | Jun 16 06:56 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: in other words: News Flash, 7% of Americans don't take surveys seriously :P | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I got the version wrong. | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 16 06:57 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're an optimist, aren't you? :> | Jun 16 06:57 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: nice Castles though :) | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | It must have been 5 or 5.1 | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I got it not long after a computer with Windows 98. | Jun 16 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | It took a while to install it. :P | Jun 16 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I do remember the register thing because I was prepared to pay what the shelf said for it. Staples had a lot of non-MS stuff on the shelf back then. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Surprisingly, Walmart did too. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart used to sell Linux box sets. For a while, they even had a desktop PC with a Linux distribution on it. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| TechDefender | MinceR: more like: i understand why people think it is funny to check YES, to "Does chocolate milk come from cows?" :) | Jun 16 06:59 |
| TechDefender | *brown cows | Jun 16 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Can't recall. Oddball distro. Wasn't around long. | Jun 16 06:59 |
| MinceR | TechDefender: you're in for some surprises then :> | Jun 16 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.wired.com/2007/10/200-everex-gree/ | Jun 16 07:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/r0cx5 ] | Jun 16 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Wired had the article. | Jun 16 07:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 16 07:00 | |
| DaemonFC | No, it wasn't Ubuntu. | Jun 16 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was called gOS or something. | Jun 16 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOS_(operating_system) | Jun 16 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | gOS (operating system) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r0cxc ] | Jun 16 07:01 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/wywoKcW.jpg | Jun 16 07:07 |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/e2c1e4e165ff1c7dd1f84ad44c0926fe/tumblr_oqpbpqcvaZ1rn7bzro1_1280.jpg | Jun 16 07:14 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/a3o44fu.jpg (gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/EOAZ5 ) | Jun 16 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comic Con-victs - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 07:22 | |
| MinceR | http://capesforhire.com/4/ | Jun 16 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-capesforhire.com | Capes For Hires | Jun 16 07:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iamunnip favourited '#Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) to Use #Linux #Kernel...' | Jun 16 08:54 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can always PM if I am at the keyboard or afk that will be another matter. | Jun 16 09:01 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: can i PM u? | Jun 16 09:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @ggreenwald @theintercept These are, in my experience,...' | Jun 16 09:02 | |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: I do support in winehq so I get people who PM all the time. But when it comes to legal prefer to remain in public channels in cases I stuff something up and others point out what I have forgot or missed. | Jun 16 09:04 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: and I am about to be AFK again. | Jun 16 09:05 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: being op in a few channels changing status for afk has caused a few issues. | Jun 16 09:05 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: okay, i can talk with you later, if you are busy | Jun 16 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | [06:27] <MinceR> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4CyTXdUEAE2udB.jpg | Jun 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't get it | Jun 16 09:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875624568479559681 | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ThwpvPOwIf | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 09:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 16 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 09:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 09:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks I wonder if they even...' | Jun 16 09:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks I wonder if they even care. Did...' | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875655952367669249 | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 11:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 16 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ben Hart: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/RsYdp2UTeZ ...' | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875657995476140032 | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vZqGIfS5Fs (www.tuxmachines.org) #steam | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 16 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SteamOS (Debian) and New Games for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MelindaMcC1 https://twitter.com/MelindaMcC1/status/875658781450944512 | Jun 16 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz Just OMG. | Jun 16 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:27 | |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft hypocritically initiated these cases though it had abused its position for decades in worse ways http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eu-poised-to-fine-google-more-than-1-billion-in-antitrust-case-ft-report-2017-06-16 #google #antitrust | Jun 16 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU poised to fine Google more than $1 billion in antitrust case: FT report - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/r0e4f ] | Jun 16 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AmbyR00 favourited '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 11:34 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its not like google is 100 percent clean. | Jun 16 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875662849124831232 | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft in the Details | Tux Machines | Jun 16 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 company that just...' | Jun 16 11:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/875666016805715969 | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft in the Details https://t.co/3AT6nPKs67 | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) company that just loves [attacking] | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 12:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 12:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875676204426252288 | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 12:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP Lapse | Tux Machines | Jun 16 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: right | Jun 16 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it was | Jun 16 12:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: with the google fine the question is will the EU have another hit a Microsoft. | Jun 16 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875676724985565184 | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 12:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 12:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects...' | Jun 16 12:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump In Soviet Russia, Trump elects Putin!' | Jun 16 12:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV' | Jun 16 13:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Grab him. https://t.co/KMz9Nqu1yV | Jun 16 13:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875686634125238273 | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 16 13:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 13:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 16 13:10 | |
| MinceR | 16 101706 < schestowitz> I don't get it | Jun 16 13:21 |
| MinceR | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowyourmeme.com | I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter | Know Your Meme [ http://ur1.ca/r0el0 ] | Jun 16 13:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/pg6QbTApnf #howto #gnu #linux #unix' | Jun 16 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch on TV...' | Jun 16 13:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Mister President, what you watch...' | Jun 16 13:25 | |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCYemqtWsAEx2a-.jpg:large | Jun 16 13:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump And BTW, stop misleading/deluding yourself. You clearly...' | Jun 16 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875696563712122880 | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 's #Atom 1.18 https://t.co/ZBfoAFqHjw | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #git #freesw | Jun 16 13:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Gitter, git-cinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and GitHub's Atom 1.18 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 13:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Gitter, #gitcinnabar 0.5.0 Beta 2, and #GitHub...' | Jun 16 14:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Since Jo Cox was murdered by a...' | Jun 16 14:02 | |
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| schestowitz | As with the "Gartner tax", the idea is that it's a sort of silence/gag tax. You must pay them, otherwise they slam you http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Jun 16 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1cntq ] | Jun 16 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <MinceR> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-sexually-identify-as-an-attack-helicopter | Jun 16 14:25 |
| schestowitz | That's actually pretty funny, but not so P-C | Jun 16 14:25 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 16 14:25 |
| MinceR | i don't insist on being PC :> | Jun 16 14:26 |
| schestowitz | you are anonymous | Jun 16 14:26 |
| MinceR | i am legion | Jun 16 14:27 |
| schestowitz | so you don't forget, you never forgive, either | Jun 16 14:33 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 16 14:34 |
| oiaohm | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/16/0232247/amazon-granted-a-patent-that-prevents-in-store-shoppers-from-online-price-checking | Jun 16 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Amazon Granted a Patent That Prevents In-Store Shoppers From Online Price Checking - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r0erk ] | Jun 16 14:35 | |
| oiaohm | Hmm | Jun 16 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Looking like vpn by wifi is going to come more important. | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | >in-store Wi-Fi | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 16 14:36 |
| MinceR | i have cellular | Jun 16 14:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: next question how long until stores become cellular black spots. | Jun 16 14:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 14:37 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Since Jo Cox was murdered...' | Jun 16 14:37 | |
| MinceR | next question: how long will said stores have customers after that | Jun 16 14:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I know of a few stores here you are lucky to get half a bar on cellular. | Jun 16 14:38 |
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| XRevan86 | If I will be travelling and somebody will say that my vocabulary is not P-C and that offends somebody, I have a possible solution for that: I can say the word "slave" offends me :). | Jun 16 14:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cellphonesignalbooster.us | How To Jam Cell Phone Signal Legally [ http://ur1.ca/r0esi ] | Jun 16 14:43 | |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how many "offendable" words like that are there… | Jun 16 14:43 |
| MinceR | slav? | Jun 16 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yep, that's the etymology. | Jun 16 14:44 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently there used to be a very big lot of Slav slaves in Western Europe. | Jun 16 14:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 16 14:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I like the Dalai Lama he has believes that there is no offensive word it is context. So he has searched out as many offensive words then used them in contexts where they are not offensive. | Jun 16 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Which one? | Jun 16 14:45 |
| MinceR | nice | Jun 16 14:46 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: 14th Dalai Lama the current one. | Jun 16 14:46 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I think I heard him saying other cool stuff too. | Jun 16 14:47 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: he has used all of the common swearing words on tv without been censored. | Jun 16 14:47 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, they even provide an excuse for blocking cellular signals in stores | Jun 16 14:47 |
| MinceR | how convenient | Jun 16 14:47 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: https://youtu.be/rg4mE1x1luw is that it? | Jun 16 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-His Holiness the Dalai Lama's speech during Sikyong swearing-in ceremony - YouTube | Jun 16 14:48 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I guess they simply wouldn't dare censor him :) | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hm? | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | > MinceR: https://cellphonesignalbooster.us/blog/how-to-jam-cell-phone-signal-legally/ More glass display cases made out of Low Emission Glass Window material. | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | ah, this | Jun 16 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The best place to block cellular signals at is of course the one where a political protest is going on %) | Jun 16 15:04 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 16 15:04 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: the magical tower losing power problem. | Jun 16 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: ? | Jun 16 15:16 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: it the one of the common things to see happen. Were like 112 still works with full bars yet on your normal carrier you have nothing. | Jun 16 15:21 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 16 19:09 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/nXP4mbJ.jpg | Jun 16 19:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for the links, funny | Jun 16 19:51 |
| schestowitz | How to install malicious spying back-doored malware on a USB to trick people into running... #vista10 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_10_Reality_Log | Jun 16 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | How to Create a Bootable Windows 10 USB on Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/r0fhs ] | Jun 16 20:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vista 10 Reality Log - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/nadnk ] | Jun 16 20:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875791554572681216 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/wDATfkkmCc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #security | Jun 16 20:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enhancing the security of the OS with cryptography changes in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875793078803726336 | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Better Video Performance https://t.co/iZJY81w8sp | Jun 16 20:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) #android #raspi3 #raspi #gnu #linux | Jun 16 20:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Gets Better Video Performance | Jun 16 20:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android-Based RaspAnd Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 3...' | Jun 16 20:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Jun 16 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9yaDh4YXy2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix | Jun 16 20:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 20:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Improving on history—the Linux history command, that is...' | Jun 16 20:14 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgrB5P-rDLw | Jun 16 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TS100: The open source Weller-Killer for 50 bucks - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0fiy ] | Jun 16 20:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875797160868147201 | Jun 16 20:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 20:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 20:29 |
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| MinceR | http://donthitsave.com/comic/2017/06/06/imac-pro | Jun 16 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-donthitsave.com | Don't Hit Save - iMac Pro [ http://ur1.ca/r0fk9 ] | Jun 16 20:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 20:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875800346941161472 | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stretch https://t.co/roMTQjYyMd (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A look at latest #tails | Jun 16 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #tor | Jun 16 20:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian 9 Stretch | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @gurnaik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Tails 3.0 Privacy-Focused Linux Based on Debian...' | Jun 16 20:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875802746791874563 | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 16 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 20:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy | Tux Machines | Jun 16 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 20:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GoboLinux Redefines the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy https://t.co/2xgdlB68wh #gnu...' | Jun 16 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875805435835580416 | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QJ5Gt4reUy (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That Combines Android, Drawing and Computer Vision | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:02 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 16 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 16 21:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Form ‘N’ Fun Is An Open-Source Game That...' | Jun 16 21:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @adymitruk favourited '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Neon and Wayland | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/875808812078252032 | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the word is spreading. | Jun 16 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #plasma | Jun 16 21:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875808858278686721 | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV (www.tuxmachines.org) review. | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #solaris #freesw | Jun 16 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OpenIndiana 2017.04 Hipster - Temple Gloom https://t.co/DJTa3gGFmV...' | Jun 16 21:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Neon and #Wayland https://t.co/eN9uGDJs11 the word...' | Jun 16 21:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano https://twitter.com/mmtoscano/status/875810240846938112 | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @adymitruk Very nice to see this! Hope | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wayland is finally ready for prime time soon, so I can | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have it on #Fedora. :) | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875811092253077508 | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 https://t.co/xJuuYNw8pT | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu #gnome #gnu #linux | Jun 16 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance to Look Good on Ubuntu 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance...' | Jun 16 21:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance...' | Jun 16 21:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/875811429986705409 | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race. | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux will displace everything else. The naysayers will | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | eat their words. | Jun 16 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875811794048176128 | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #pixel | Jun 16 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #googlemaps #games #androidauto | Jun 16 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 21:27 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb #android #google #linux #pixel #googlemaps...' | Jun 16 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @mmtoscano https://twitter.com/mmtoscano/status/875815292416409600 | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mom a Linux / KDE laptop this weekend. One more user | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rescued from the perils of proprietary (twitter.com) | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | software. :D | Jun 16 22:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:00 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/V99XBVa.gif | Jun 16 22:11 |
| *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Jun 16 22:13 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @android_thing favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/TrWl5mDIfb #android #google #linux #pixel #googlemaps...' | Jun 16 22:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Canonical Works on Fixing GNOME Shell for Ambiance...' | Jun 16 22:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel With Keys,...' | Jun 16 22:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/875825063898918912 | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lapse https://t.co/P0ZVlNtKSa (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: CherryBlossom, Security Tps, Travel With Keys, Windows Malware in Electricity Systems, PGP Lapse | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#SteamOS (Debian) and New #Games for #GNU #Linux...' | Jun 16 22:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#IPFire 2.19 #Linux #Firewall Gets WPA Enterprise Authentication...' | Jun 16 22:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875831260941307906 | Jun 16 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', #Cars, #Erebus | Jun 16 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H3kv68gHvq (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', Cars, Erebus | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', #Cars, #Erebus https://t.co/H3kv68gHvq' | Jun 16 22:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sabine_promote retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers: Updates, 'Clouds', #Cars, #Erebus https://t.co/H3kv68gHvq' | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833145383432192 | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "It's the absolute lack of progress since | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2011" Nice joke :) | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875833182767206401 | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit https://t.co/VklpEVCrO3 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted '#Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux #PlumbersConference 2017,...' | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875833242984882177 | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #PlumbersConference 2017, and #DiversityEmpowerment | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Summit https://t.co/06pYzL0Z0a (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Events: LinuxCon Beijing 2017, Linux Plumbers Conference 2017, and Diversity Empowerment Summit | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Events: #LinuxCon #Beijing 2017, Linux #PlumbersConference 2017,...' | Jun 16 22:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833415303561216 | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux, and have | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | been so since about 2007" Linux had ZFS with Boot | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Environments, Zones, Dtrace since 2007? (twitter.com) | Jun 16 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875833961779482624 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Then reflect 2 seconds: on the one hand you | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | have a dominant system supported by major companies | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called Linux. | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834128930885632 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines On the other hand a very modest system | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supported by a few companies, and the distribution | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | maintained by a few volunteers. | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834128830275584 | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 22:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX #freesw #google #voten #opensuco #ura...' | Jun 16 22:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cwekurtz https://twitter.com/cwekurtz/status/875834366139801603 | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Do you still feel that writing an article | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for the sake of bashing a modest project with no | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | pretention is so enjoyable? | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875834624131424256 | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung #tizenos #linux #google | Jun 16 22:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 16 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and Android | Tux Machines | Jun 16 22:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 22:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen and #Android https://t.co/oGsdpSDmbt #samsung #tizenos #linux #google...' | Jun 16 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835243156123648 | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Foundations Team and More https://t.co/0rVnCrCjtQ | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu Foundations Team and More | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 23:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875835847580450817 | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #ansible #gnu #linux #server | Jun 16 23:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #codenvy #container #anaconda | Jun 16 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat and #Fedora https://t.co/uco8Jr0CeG #ansible #gnu #linux #server...' | Jun 16 23:03 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/MgbiBTD.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/r/funny/pne56 ) | Jun 16 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's your turn - Album on Imgur | Jun 16 23:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/suzettepetillo/status/875836210471501824 | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/dx1PSTwMTX | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @suzettepetillo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google #voten #opensuco | Jun 16 23:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ura #oath | Jun 16 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Desktop, Server Development Summary, Ubuntu...' | Jun 16 23:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837255562166273 | Jun 16 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX | Jun 16 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers and Hadoop, Containers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875837760057335808 | Jun 16 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm | Jun 16 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 16 23:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Servers and #Hadoop, #Containers https://t.co/O2QwMr3PZX #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 23:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/qNqrKtfnSm #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 16 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875838603800215552 | Jun 16 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro | Jun 16 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games for #gnu #linuux | Jun 16 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: #Gaming https://t.co/l31IVZ0fro #games for #gnu #linuux' | Jun 16 23:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839149454102528 | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #firefox #plasma #gcc #atom | Jun 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software, KDE, GNOME, Mozilla... | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839403998015489 | Jun 16 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l | Jun 16 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 16 23:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 16 23:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | I posted to Phoronix, I don't think that whatever happens to ffmpeg is the scariest thing about Ubuntu. Ubuntu does a lot of things that are just downright stupid /and/or scary, but making the packages more secure by default isn't one of them. I use Fedora because Ubuntu has a disease of NIH and making worse implementations of existing stuff and then making you live with their weird Ubuntu-only bugs for years before finally chuc | Jun 16 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | king their homegrown disaster for what every sane distribution was doing anyway. I said several years ago that ayatana and Unity were a bad idea and would ultimately just end up wasting developer resources, time, and money, but since then, Ubuntu has also thrown away their own display server and their init daemon, and Snappy is probably next. I'd say certainly next looking at the state of support for it outside of Ubuntu. Ubunt | Jun 16 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | u *also* supports Flatpak, but many other distributions only support Flatpak by default, so you can build a bloated Snap image and tell many of your users to add a repository and install Snap themselves or give them a Flatpak and it works everywhere. So, OMG Ubuntu! talked to Ken Vandine of Canonical, and apparently they're going to have to throw away "hundreds" of patches that are never going upstream. | Jun 16 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875839985479557120 | Jun 16 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 16 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 16 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 16 23:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 16 23:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Software, #KDE, #GNOME, #Mozilla... https://t.co/NXkgwdHpzo #freesw #firefox...' | Jun 16 23:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's #tuxmachines leftovers https://t.co/yz9Jj10C9l' | Jun 16 23:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are a crazy fool. Now China...' | Jun 16 23:22 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 17 08:44 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 17 08:44 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 17 08:44 | |
| DaemonFC | My mom got her license suspended for a year and didn't know it until she got a letter in the mail saying she could renew it. She had been driving the whole time. | Jun 17 08:44 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: the pm described a copyright problem. Where there is a license there and you are expect to know about it. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | Well, everything is copyrighted even without a license attached. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | If there's no license, you should automatically assume it's nonfree. | Jun 17 08:45 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: yes, but he also, has to deal with PR, (aka, the "court of public opinion") | Jun 17 08:46 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: as DeamonFC said with copyright. The rule is no found license no rights to-do anything. | Jun 17 08:46 |
| TechDefender | DaemonFC: i can send u the PM too, as long as u don't publish it | Jun 17 08:47 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: oh, i can send u the actual transcripts too, if u want | Jun 17 08:48 |
| TechDefender | actually the "PR" side of it, might turn out to be *more important* than the "legal" side of it. | Jun 17 08:58 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really we have fairly much covered the basics. The next is sit down with a good legal team. | Jun 17 09:02 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: PR when it comes to license enforcement all Microsoft cares is that they win and then they can publish that to scare others off. | Jun 17 09:02 |
| TechDefender | like if Aaron Schwartz, had a better PR, etc, that might have been more important than legal team ( i still can't believe that MIT let it go that far) | Jun 17 09:03 |
| oiaohm | TechDefender: really the more media coverage the harder Microsoft will fight. | Jun 17 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/875977780537819136 | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/WFGF2E2nLa (techrights.org) | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: he has a legal team, not sure how 'good' they are | Jun 17 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange These people are advised by the "Pentagon"...' | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/6/2017: New Atom Release, Firefox 55 Beta | Techrights | Jun 17 09:04 | |
| TechDefender | oiaohm: well, the silver lining it, this kinda stuff "scares" more people to switch to Linux | Jun 17 09:07 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange These people are advised by...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the Russians' claims....' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Western intel agencies dispute the...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes and drone...' | Jun 17 09:12 | |
| TechDefender | unrelated: is a 40" 4K TV a good choice for a monitor? | Jun 17 09:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Over the years, following airstrikes...' | Jun 17 09:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/875990810898173952 | Jun 17 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@mmtoscano @tuxmachines Slow and steady wins the race....' | Jun 17 09:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@adymitruk @tuxmachines Haha. No doubt. I'm sending my...' | Jun 17 09:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines "more or less a given in Linux,...' | Jun 17 09:39 | |
| schestowitz | [04:12] <TechDefender> schestowitz: talked to him: u can see the transcripts, too. but if you want to publish a story, you first "must" talk to his expert witnesses & PR team (to get the full story) | Jun 17 09:51 |
| schestowitz | not in written form? | Jun 17 09:52 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: heyyy | Jun 17 09:58 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: what kind of story do you want to do? | Jun 17 09:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i can give you his email, if you want | Jun 17 09:59 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he is planning on doing press stuff | Jun 17 09:59 |
| schestowitz | introducing the case maybe | Jun 17 10:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he prefers talking on the phone (Signal app) | Jun 17 10:00 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i came here, because i'm thinking you guys are experts in this kind of stuff. I'm not an expert, i'm just into FOSS, etc | Jun 17 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002195073884161 | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian #GNU #Linux 8.8 | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jessie, but Ditches #systemd | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DvEgCIjI8X (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on Debian GNU/Linux 8.8 Jessie, but Ditches systemd | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876002490680053761 | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17.08, Arrives August 17 https://t.co/8N5NHAOFxr | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 10:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications 17.08, Arrives August 17 | Tux Machines | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#antiX 16.2 Linux OS Is Based on #Debian...' | Jun 17 10:05 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: he has a PR team, that he was supposed to send me contact list for, but he is stressed out, so maybe he forgot. I'm just trying to help, because i support his cause | Jun 17 10:05 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 10:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#KDE Finalizes the Release Schedule of KDE Applications...' | Jun 17 10:08 | |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: thanks again for helping recommend experts. | Jun 17 10:14 |
| schestowitz | Zuckerberg's brainwash experiments (for paying clients) a step up http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/facebook-to-venture-into-scripted-television-with-comedy-series/article18990743.ece https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/facebook-chases-tv-s-70-billion-stash-with-its-own-video-series recall http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks | Jun 17 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Facebook to venture into scripted television with comedy series - The Hindu [ http://ur1.ca/r0i85 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Chases TV’s $70 Billion Stash With Its Own Video Series - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/r0i86 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gawker.com | Facebook CEO Admits To Calling Users 'Dumb Fucks' [ http://ur1.ca/1mgo6 ] | Jun 17 10:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/876011744421871616 | Jun 17 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/AjoiY0ACnn | Jun 17 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 17 10:45 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Leftovers: #Solus. #OBS, and #Unixstickers https://t.co/pZxdDFBtUU #suse #opensuse...' | Jun 17 11:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Solus. OBS, and Unixstickers | Tux Machines | Jun 17 11:07 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeed.com | The Man Who Warned Of The "Catastrophic" Fire Risk At Grenfell Tower Almost Died In The Blaze | Jun 17 12:00 | |
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| schestowitz | TechDefender: at your convenient, pass us information we can publish | Jun 17 12:19 |
| schestowitz | with links, quotes, etc. | Jun 17 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to publish something that you would later state harmed the case | Jun 17 12:19 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i really appreciate that | Jun 17 12:20 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: i think he is finalizing something to publish soon, similar to what i sent u. | Jun 17 12:21 |
| TechDefender | schestowitz: if you have any input that could help out, please let me know. U can email him directly if you want, but he is busy and stressed out dealing with all of this | Jun 17 12:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Packages and #Security Fixes | Jun 17 13:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/OarU4KIVhZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Packages and Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Jun 17 13:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Recent and Older #Qt and #KDE News, #Development | Jun 17 15:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | past month | Jun 17 15:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.alpinelinux.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 17 16:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org | Alpine 3.6.2 released | Alpine Linux | Jun 17 16:07 | |
| MinceR | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: o_0 | Jun 17 16:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/876096087291023362 | Jun 17 16:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Jun 17 16:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Install .tar.gz Or .tgz Packages In Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 17 16:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported | Jun 17 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for at Least 2 Years https://t.co/FE7WaktDo1 | Jun 17 16:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel #linux | Jun 17 16:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.14 to Be the Next LTS Kernel Series, Supported for at Least 2 Years | Tux Machines | Jun 17 16:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:09] <MinceR> http://i.4cdn.org/b/1497709439770.webm | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Looks like a computer game | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | the wheel would not be in flames on a loose human arm in an alley | Jun 17 16:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 17 16:50 |
| schestowitz | but it still looks impressively real | Jun 17 16:50 |
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| schestowitz | what's with the cat? | Jun 17 17:27 |
| schestowitz | just caturday? | Jun 17 17:27 |
| schestowitz | the sun bear meme is good | Jun 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I heard similar things | Jun 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | playing the ate/hate ambiguity (phonetically) | Jun 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | it's also funny that they use sun bear meme because they're known or notorious for having eaten... their own feces in Indonesia | Jun 17 17:30 |
| MinceR | unusually photogenic one | Jun 17 17:51 |
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| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 just pulled in a new systemd... | Jun 17 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like they don't exactly just use the version it says it is. They cherry pick fixes from the development branch and backport them. | Jun 17 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't document everything they fixed, but just gave a general summary. | Jun 17 21:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 17 21:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Roxanne_Rees/status/876174505563041792 | Jun 17 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Roxanne_Rees: @schestowitz I'm sorry, are the Labour Party any more collective right now? Neither party won a majority let's be realistic! | Jun 17 21:29 | |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convince it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 21:29 |
| schestowitz | Only one party called a snap election, fully convinced (arrogantly) it would maintain if not augment this majority | Jun 17 21:29 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 21:30 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no need to troll, we have activity regardless | Jun 17 21:32 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR troll no its true | Jun 17 21:32 |
| sebsebseb | you love going on about system d and apple, so you love them | Jun 17 21:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Corbyn was never a fan of it....' | Jun 17 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting started with Go | Opensource.com | Jun 17 21:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Put in perspective, that is about 100...' | Jun 17 21:45 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F1PPrb0.jpg | Jun 17 21:54 |
| schestowitz | [21:30] <sebsebseb> DaemonFC: uhmm in MinceR loves System D and Apple | Jun 17 22:21 |
| schestowitz | and it's not even so funny.. | Jun 17 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | systemd has a lot of bugs. | Jun 17 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | They seem to be growing faster than they are being fixed. | Jun 17 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Pulling in so many features under one umbrella has likely led to mission creep. | Jun 17 22:23 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: most distros gone to system d | Jun 17 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html | Jun 17 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.de | The Biggest Myths | Jun 17 22:25 | |
| MinceR | most distros are garbage | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | " In fact, many of these binaries[1] are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd, too." | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use udev without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | You can't use a lot of things without systemd anymore. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Or at least a shim that makes them think they're using systemd. | Jun 17 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | "A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic. What is different from prior solutions however, is that we ship more components in a single tarball, and maintain them upstream in a single repository with a unified release cycle." | Jun 17 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Doesn't this undercut the BSD user complaint that Linux is a pile of packages that are not developed together? | Jun 17 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | That, according to them, made BSD "better" because the core operating system was all developed by a single project. | Jun 17 22:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Then again, many components of a BSD system aren't developed together. It's unlikely that you want a desktop/workstation without a display server, video drivers, a desktop environment, etc. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | And their graphics drivers are a port from Linux! | Jun 17 22:28 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Snowden Put in perspective, that is...' | Jun 17 22:28 | |
| DaemonFC | A really really old Linux at that. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD 11.1's Intel/AMD graphics support (kernel part) is from Linux 3.8. | Jun 17 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Four years old and they admit in their Wikis that modern chipsets aren't supported at all. | Jun 17 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Unless you want a dumb framebuffer with no graphics acceleration. | Jun 17 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | They don't see it as a problem. Their answer is "Buy an nvidia card and use their proprietary driver.". | Jun 17 22:29 |
| MinceR | what about the other BSDs? | Jun 17 22:30 |
| MinceR | http://judecnelson.blogspot.hu/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html | Jun 17 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-judecnelson.blogspot.hu | Jude's Blog: Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies [ http://ur1.ca/mvjad ] | Jun 17 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure what they're doing, but it's funny that FreeBSD says it's better because it's developed together and then they're going around twinking parts of ancient Linux kernels for hardware support. | Jun 17 22:31 |
| MinceR | what's up with the licensing of those FreeBSD drivers then? | Jun 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 22:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBXKMy5smI | Jun 17 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin On Being In The Military - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0kry ] | Jun 17 22:40 | |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Going to pick up dinner. | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, I've seen that one. :) | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The Linux kernel Direct Rendering Manager code is under a BSD style license. | Jun 17 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | As part of Linux, it's wrapped with the GPL. | Jun 17 22:43 |
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| MinceR | ic | Jun 17 22:46 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvS2SlJuLp8 | Jun 17 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cheetah Purring - A Cute Big Cat Videos Compilation - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/r0kut ] | Jun 17 23:11 | |
| schestowitz | cute | Jun 17 23:13 |
| MinceR | lol @ killed in combat | Jun 17 23:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: awesome video | Jun 17 23:31 |
| MinceR | George Carlin On Being In The Military >> https://youtu.be/OJBXKMy5smI?t=10s | Jun 17 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin On Being In The Military - YouTube | Jun 17 23:38 | |
| MinceR | oops, not here :) | Jun 17 23:38 |
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