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oiaohmDaemonFC: there is a white paper based on how exagear works.May 14 01:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863616377457737729May 14 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 LinuxAndUbuntu Distro Review Of The Week Bodhi LinuxMay 14 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tNPQUyPCdR (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 01:25
TweetTuxMachines May 14 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxAndUbuntu Distro Review Of The Week Bodhi Linux | Tux MachinesMay 14 01:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: http://wccftech.com/arm-announces-restrictions-vendors-run-x86-systems/ then we have arm talking about direct x86 support of some form.May 14 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | ARM Opens Its Chips For x86 Support To All Manufacturers Including Apple & Samsung [ http://ur1.ca/quynp ]May 14 01:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/01/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-will-able-emulate-x86.html  not exactly super speed but should be workable x86 support.May 14 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 Will Be Able To Emulate x86 | Androidheadlines.com [ http://ur1.ca/quynt ]May 14 01:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863688453179015168May 14 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Razer Sabertooth & Mad Catz Brawlstick Support In LinuxMay 14 05:43
TweetTuxMachines                 4.12 https://t.co/TNBWj6vbf4 (www.phoronix.com)May 14 05:43
TweetTuxMachines May 14 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Razer Sabertooth & Mad Catz Brawlstick Support In Linux 4.12 - PhoronixMay 14 05:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/863695577154015232May 14 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz https://t.co/glA5ASIlgZMay 14 06:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/863696093347008513May 14 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrIvanJohnson: Did #Marr happen to ask if it's wiser to spend £20B on useless #Trident or on providing secure, updated IT systems to #NHS? @schestowitzMay 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863691059628392448May 14 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Games To Play In Linux TerminalMay 14 06:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fApKL8OtRc (www.linuxandubuntu.com)May 14 06:07
TweetTuxMachines May 14 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Games To Play In Linux Terminal - LinuxAndUbuntu - Linux News | Apps Reviews | Linux Tutorials HowToMay 14 06:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: razielle_tzu pingMay 14 06:28
oiaohmhttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/13/gnu_gpl_enforceable_contract/  hmm this alters the GPL enforcement process.May 14 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | For now, GNU GPL is an enforceable contract, says US federal judge • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/quzch ]May 14 06:37
oiaohmBeing able to use contract law instead of copyright law removes fair use from table.May 14 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863697164962217984May 14 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News, Notably Microsoft/NSA CatastropheMay 14 06:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RrEEd1aaUl (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 06:41
TweetTuxMachines May 14 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News, Notably Microsoft/NSA Catastrophe | Tux MachinesMay 14 06:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/863744231806042113May 14 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @X_Pensive_Wino @polr @jakke009 @sebastienk Kan echt wel aanraden om https://t.co/qZ7A41mO5R te volgen! Concentreer… https://t.co/qkfD8BpASIMay 14 09:15
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, published some days ago by qzMay 14 09:15
oiaohmschestowitz: I wonder if orcale will have another crack and google.May 14 09:30
MinceRmaybe Obstacle will act like SCO didMay 14 09:52
oiaohmMinceR: also being contract also effect the vmware case.May 14 09:53
MinceRhttp://funkyounow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/funny-it-comics-li-anne-dias-4-58fdcc197e0f6__700.jpgMay 14 09:53
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/I3Rl1Ud.gifvMay 14 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "I'm crushing your head!"  "I'm pinching your face!"May 14 09:56
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/pYcolQ6.pngMay 14 09:57
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/03100217039/no-copyright-intended-coming-generation-who-intrinsically-assumes-remix-sharing-makes-sense.shtmlMay 14 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Copyright Intended: The Coming Generation Who Intrinsically Assumes Remix & Sharing Makes Sense | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/quzvq ]May 14 10:19
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/ARuAyMay 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adopted this silly cat - Album on ImgurMay 14 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863764955757195264May 14 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 https://t.co/I8FxgGTDJIMay 14 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (error)May 14 10:38
TweetTuxMachines May 14 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863765474252926976May 14 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 The Many New Features Of The Linux 4.12 Kernel The ManyMay 14 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 New Features Of The Linux 4.12 KernelMay 14 10:39
TweetTuxMachines May 14 10:39
schestowitz[14:55] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/I3Rl1Ud.gifvMay 14 10:53
schestowitzWeirdMay 14 10:53
schestowitz[15:19] <MinceR> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/03100217039/no-copyright-intended-coming-generation-who-intrinsically-assumes-remix-sharing-makes-sense.shtmlMay 14 10:53
schestowitzoldMay 14 10:53
schestowitz:-)May 14 10:53
schestowitzMinceR: I'll be away for the next two weeks, you know what to do about IRC and all...May 14 10:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LivePatriot/status/863769122416361473May 14 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LivePatriot: @schestowitz Nobody adopts a cat, cats adopt you.May 14 10:53
MinceRschestowitz: yesMay 14 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863772315552817153May 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 liveslak 1.1.8 and new ISO images https://t.co/uAyUYOnH8VMay 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (alien.slackbook.org)May 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines May 14 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Alien Pastures » liveslak 1.1.8 and new ISO imagesMay 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863778446979153920May 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Eric Hameleers on Slackware https://t.co/PUHxrKbxw8May 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 11:30
TweetTuxMachines May 14 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Eric Hameleers on Slackware | Tux MachinesMay 14 11:30
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6atany/regarding_the_hitman_hiring_to_kill_lennart/May 14 11:50
schestowitzMinceR: ^May 14 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Regarding the "Hitman hiring to kill Lennart Poettering" memo, I believe this is the "incident" he's referring to. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qv04s ]May 14 11:50
schestowitzMinceR: cheers for looking after the channelsMay 14 11:50
schestowitzI think it'll log everything fine, I leave my laptop connected at home May 14 11:50
schestowitzand we hardly have trolls here anymoreMay 14 11:51
MinceR:)May 14 11:54
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MinceRlol @ helicopter-shaped dentMay 14 11:58
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/BfVRoIx.jpgMay 14 12:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863778459574706176May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Review: Ubuntu MATE 17.04 Zesty ZapusMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eCaTrTgzXh (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EG7s0jgC1sMay 14 12:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Review: Ubuntu MATE 17.04 Zesty Zapus | Tux MachinesMay 14 12:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: GNU/Linux Review: Ubuntu MATE 17.04 Zesty Zapus https://t.co/eCaTrTgzXh https://t.co/EG7s0jgC1sMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786682000171008May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/yrSd9G4SoiMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786683602321409May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/ZP1khxdZRoMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786684831354880May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/tO69zwSGJGMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux MachinesMay 14 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786686047703040May 14 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.11.1 https://t.co/3FfdZnkTZRMay 14 12:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 12:04
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.1 | Tux MachinesMay 14 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786933272666112May 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 [Video] Plasma 5 layout - my most productive desktopMay 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 configuration https://t.co/vK3vinIhvr (error)May 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Plasma 5 layout - my most productive desktop configuration - YouTubeMay 14 12:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863787861052719105May 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 I put #Debian on my Kindle! https://t.co/vYzOl41IKkMay 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (i.imgur.com) #kindle #gnu #linuxMay 14 12:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863791680641748992May 14 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Review - 2017 System76 Galago Pro UltrabookMay 14 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BClzhihnNO (error)May 14 12:53
TweetTuxMachines May 14 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Review - 2017 System76 Galago Pro Ultrabook - YouTubeMay 14 12:53
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6agpmd/so_i_just_build_lfs_took_me_2_nights/May 14 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | So I just build LFS. Took me 2 nights. : linuxMay 14 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863799290489171972May 14 13:11
TweetTuxMachines                 [Video] Deepin 15.4 - See What's NewMay 14 13:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mSoqN74ujC (error)May 14 13:11
TweetTuxMachines May 14 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Deepin 15.4 - See What's New - YouTubeMay 14 13:11
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6axvjo/now_we_know_who_is_writing_the_error_messages_for/May 14 13:22
schestowitzserverino :-)May 14 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Now we know who is writing the error messages for CIFS-utils : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qv0e3 ]May 14 13:23
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/VLlbCMay 14 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Dump of Forgotten Things - Album on ImgurMay 14 13:58
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/67m6uAG.jpgMay 14 14:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819123620491269May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fdbazSr0vo (techrights.org)May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 | TechrightsMay 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819841655906304May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Talks and FOSS Events https://t.co/HQm4dur8czMay 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Talks and FOSS Events | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819843698425856May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 A Look at Firefox 57 and Comparison to ChromeMay 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AlK2nM3HB5 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:14
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look at Firefox 57 and Comparison to Chrome | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819846013698052May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 More of today's howtos https://t.co/vMU1Xt31TRMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More of today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819848542965760May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/2SrS7zX6BBMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819851688759297May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest of Linux 4.11 and 4.12 https://t.co/CedA4cO9nwMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest of Linux 4.11 and 4.12 | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819860236574720May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu on Laptops https://t.co/ZSHgY6g5jIMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Laptops | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819864732876800May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME/GTK News https://t.co/3wzrDvlKy7May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME/GTK News | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819870877564928May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices and Android https://t.co/6o32rsJy07May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices and Android | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819872970481664May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/an31YTnqbpMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux MachinesMay 14 14:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819881405308928May 14 15:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/VyddrP2aooMay 14 15:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 15:02
TweetTuxMachines May 14 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 14 15:02
cubexyzoiaohm, xautolock is worth checking outMay 14 15:04
cubexyznot sure if it's part of the main body of X11 software May 14 15:04
cubexyzbut very usefulMay 14 15:04
MinceRhttp://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%B4-%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BA-3842982.gifMay 14 15:15
cubexyzhahaha, what movie is that?May 14 15:16
MinceRdunno, but it's from indiaMay 14 15:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/GQf2u.pngMay 14 15:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/863831818713354242May 14 15:28
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 15:28
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/fdbazSr0vo (techrights.org)May 14 15:28
TweetTuxMachines May 14 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 | TechrightsMay 14 15:28
cubexyzgermans were very foolish using windows systems for their trainsMay 14 15:56
MinceRindeedMay 14 16:01
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/52RMGMay 14 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Funny Wikipedia edits by internet vandals - Album on ImgurMay 14 16:12
*TweetTuxMachines @LivePatriot favourited 'Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks...'May 14 16:23
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSJXC6_qQ8May 14 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The American Kilogram - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qv0sl ]May 14 16:23
schestowitzhttps://mastodon.tetaneutral.net/users/josemanuel/updates/11119May 14 16:26
schestowitz"I've been using FLAC for years now. No patents, awesome quality."May 14 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.tetaneutral.net | Mastodon Tetaneutral.net [ http://ur1.ca/qv0sz ]May 14 16:26
XRevan86> BootieButlerMay 14 16:26
XRevan86MinceR: That's pretty cool.May 14 16:26
schestowitzyeah, just seen itMay 14 16:29
schestowitzworks OKMay 14 16:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863852184814800896May 14 16:29
TweetTuxMachines                 5 Tips To Master Linux https://t.co/CPQSX6XFiAMay 14 16:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 16:29
TweetTuxMachines May 14 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Tips To Master Linux | Tux MachinesMay 14 16:29
schestowitzdon't get why they are so paranoid over this "exhibit"May 14 16:29
schestowitzit's mostly symbolicMay 14 16:29
XRevan86schestowitz: As he says later, it's priceless.May 14 16:30
XRevan86So they definitely don't want to lose it or reduce its quality :)May 14 16:30
MinceRunfortunately, at least until the kg gets redefined, it is more than symbolicMay 14 16:33
MinceRthe calibration of scales ultimately depends on these standardsMay 14 16:33
MinceRhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/05/intels-management-engine-security-hazard-and-users-need-way-disable-itMay 14 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Intel's Management Engine is a security hazard, and users need a way to disable it | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/quxfr ]May 14 16:44
schestowitzseen thatMay 14 17:10
schestowitzgood.May 14 17:10
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/G3TAJMay 14 17:17
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TweetTuxMachines                 Project Treble is super exciting, but custom AndroidMay 14 18:35
TweetTuxMachines                 interfaces are here to stay https://t.co/cEj4WfrkACMay 14 18:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google Pixel 2 Leak Reveals A Powerful Android O HandsetMay 14 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds stops personally signing Linux rc tarballsMay 14 18:51
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TweetTuxMachines                 Sudden Strike 4 to release August 11th with day-1 LinuxMay 14 19:06
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux version with enough interestMay 14 19:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed,May 14 19:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/o9pxi6TpvUMay 14 19:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 Calibre 2.85 Ebook Manager App Adds Support for Kobo AuraMay 14 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 H2O Edition 2 eReader https://t.co/9jEeVZqIeiMay 14 19:35
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oiaohmcubexyz: xautolock is still calls programs that use the hack in X11 that is bipassable.May 14 20:09
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TweetTuxMachines                 New Kernels and Mesa https://t.co/tP3CdXAxs6May 14 20:37
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TweetTuxMachines                 The Alpha Litebook https://t.co/pN3pXB0W0GMay 14 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed,May 14 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 New Neptune Linux Plasma 5 ISO Snapshot Lands with KDEMay 14 21:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Applications 17.04, More https://t.co/cc7RF17IcVMay 14 21:45
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cubexyznot sure what you mean oiaohm May 14 23:43
oiaohmcubexyz: https://linux.die.net/man/1/xautolock  you referenced this before  I think.   The default xlock in X11 server that it calls is breakable same with most of the other locker options it can trigger.May 14 23:56
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cubexyzas far as I know, xautolock doesn't use xlockMay 14 23:59
cubexyzoh wait... it doesMay 15 00:00
cubexyzdefaults to xlockMay 15 00:01
cubexyzhold on oiaohm :)May 15 00:02
cubexyzthe default is xlock... but I'm not using the defaultMay 15 00:02
cubexyzxautolock for me calls pm-suspend onlyMay 15 00:02
cubexyzso I'm not using xlock May 15 00:03
cubexyzI use:May 15 00:03
cubexyzxautolock -time 15 -locker sudo pm-suspendMay 15 00:04
cubexyzand pm-suspend is set for NOPASSWD in /etc/sudoersMay 15 00:05
oiaohmcubexyz: that why I mentioned what I did. May 15 00:05
oiaohmxautolock is a good activity detector not good at locking screen.May 15 00:06
oiaohmcubexyz: you seam to be using the part of xautolock that works.May 15 00:06
cubexyzexcellent :)May 15 00:06
cubexyzwould you happen to know how much space hard drive hibernation needs?May 15 00:24
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oiaohmcubexyz: normally equal to ram and that is bad on some systems I have with 64G of ram.May 15 00:28
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cubexyzI can't write to /sys/power/stateMay 15 00:42
cubexyznot even as rootMay 15 00:42
cubexyzit's preventing me from suspendingMay 15 00:43
cubexyznot feeling patient enough to figure it out :-/May 15 00:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/6tLAWZ13MXMay 15 02:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864006205001289728May 15 02:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel and Graphics in Linux https://t.co/5cUmG6KkVNMay 15 02:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux and FOSS Events: Open Labs Hackerspace, FOSS4GMay 15 03:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Boston 2017, GSoC 2017 (for Krita), and LaKademy 2017May 15 03:17
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TweetTuxMachines                 Open Source On IBM i: Let It Grow https://t.co/2U5jEJYMpfMay 15 04:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864028534968393730May 15 04:04
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 Released for KDE Plasma 5 DesktopMay 15 04:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Users with 83 ChangesMay 15 04:04
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/mJJfPzK37D (linux.softpedia.com)May 15 04:04
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TweetTuxMachines                 It's Now Possible to Access Your Google Drive Account onMay 15 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/cykdQU9ObG (news.softpedia.com)May 15 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Comparison of all Tizen smartphones so far: Samsung Z1 vsMay 15 06:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Z2 vs Z3 vs Z4 https://t.co/pMm8D5YEFYMay 15 06:28
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oiaohmhttps://input.club/waitlist/  Hmm this is warped usb C port keyboard.May 15 06:58
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6nVH2KH7IMay 15 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The deepest MEOW in the world - YouTubeMay 15 14:58
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/J0UNYKV.jpg   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/xsAMH )May 15 15:28
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/johnwilander/status/864141132229365760May 15 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnwilander: OH: “Installing a WannaCry screenshot as a coworker’s screensaver.” Very evil. Very evil indeed. https://t.co/RJV1MQPY0rMay 15 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnwilander: OH: “Installing a WannaCry screenshot as a coworker’s screensaver.” Very evil. Very evil indeed. https://t.co/RJV1MQPY0rMay 15 15:39
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/NFMZWrx.pngMay 15 15:48
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cubexyzok, I'm bad that I think this is funny:May 15 18:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/more-windows-fun.txtMay 15 18:18
cubexyzok, not really funnyMay 15 18:18
MinceRbusiness as usualMay 15 18:19
cubexyzyou have to boot info windows to change UEFI settings?May 15 18:19
cubexyzdoesn't sound good at allMay 15 18:20
MinceRafaik in some configurations it may not let you enter uefi setup at all, except from winblows, or if you pull the mass storage deviceMay 15 18:21
MinceR(the latter of course may void your warranty)May 15 18:21
cubexyzor maybe he just had to boot into windows once to do anythingMay 15 18:21
MinceRuefi is a crime against humanityMay 15 18:21
cubexyznot to mention the boot loader was alteredMay 15 18:24
cubexyz"new windows 8 PCs don't include traditional BIOS"May 15 18:32
cubexyzok I see the problem nowMay 15 18:35
cubexyz"you may need to access the UEFI settings scren through the windows boot options menu rather than pressing a key on startup"May 15 18:35
cubexyzthat would force at least one boot into windows May 15 18:36
cubexyzbut they also say erroneous thingsMay 15 18:38
cubexyz"The days of pressing a function key or Esc to interrupt the boot process and get into the BIOS configuration (in UEFI enabled systems) are gone."May 15 18:39
cubexyzthat's wrongMay 15 18:39
MinceRoh no, you could get into bios setup by pressing a key!May 15 18:39
cubexyzsince almost every computer I have does thatMay 15 18:39
MinceRwhat sort of morons see that as a problem?May 15 18:39
MinceRthey shouldn't be allowed to touch computersMay 15 18:39
cubexyzyeah that's badMay 15 18:39
MinceRthey should play with rocksMay 15 18:39
cubexyzI didn't realize how bad the situation isMay 15 18:40
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DaemonFChttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-15/second-wave-ransomware-cyberattack-begins-spread-wever-never-seen-anythingMay 15 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | New Variant Of "WannaCry" Virus Emerges Infecting 3,600 Computers Per Hour | Zero HedgeMay 15 19:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, You'd think that with as much as governments tax people, they could afford to run something better than 15 year old computers with Windows XP on them.May 15 19:34
oiaohmDaemonFC: not that simple.May 15 19:35
cubexyzMRI machines with older software comes to mindMay 15 19:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: there are a lot of software government and companies have written that only run on XP.May 15 19:36
DaemonFCAnd they thought that they would never have to deal with that?May 15 19:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: think about it you still hear of companies calling for cobol developers to deal with 40 year old programs.May 15 19:36
DaemonFCMost of the hardware is overdue for a failure already.May 15 19:37
cubexyzhaMay 15 19:37
DaemonFCMicrosoft shouldn't have patched XP. They should have pulled back and let whatever happens happen.May 15 19:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: old computer I know of still in use is a IBM XT.   And I mean active usage.May 15 19:39
cubexyzP3's with big heat sinks can last a very long timeMay 15 19:39
DaemonFCNow they sent the message that there's always going to be a "Well, just this once." every time there's a big problem with it.May 15 19:39
cubexyzATX boxes are also very repairableMay 15 19:40
oiaohmDaemonFC: the IBM XT I know of is recoding earth quake information in a particular town.May 15 19:40
oiaohmDaemonFC: the place gets about 20-40 earthquakes people cannot fell a day.May 15 19:40
DaemonFCYeah, and there's a Commodore that controls the heat and air conditioning at a high school in Michigan.May 15 19:41
DaemonFCDoesn't make it a good idea.May 15 19:41
oiaohmDaemonFC: the IBM XT I am refering is will maintained.May 15 19:42
DaemonFCThey say that they're trying to transition away from it because something fails every now and then and it's becoming too difficult to find replacement parts.May 15 19:42
DaemonFCAnd there's only one guy that really knows how to use it.May 15 19:42
cubexyzCommodore what?May 15 19:42
DaemonFCI think it was an Amiga, but I'm not entirely sure.May 15 19:42
oiaohmDaemonFC: 20-40 earthquakes per day is quite a bit of vibration tolerance the system needs.May 15 19:42
DaemonFChttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a16010/30-year-old-computer-runs-school-heat/May 15 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popularmechanics.com | One Ancient Commodore Amiga Runs the Heat and AC for 19 Public Schools [ http://ur1.ca/qv4w7 ]May 15 19:43
cubexyzoiaohm, what monitor did the XT use?May 15 19:43
DaemonFCMy mistake. 19 public schools depend on it.May 15 19:43
DaemonFCAnd it's as old as me and one guy knows how to use it.May 15 19:43
oiaohmcubexyz: Its been modified to use a modern LCD.   Those break quite a bit.May 15 19:43
cubexyzAmiga might be a bit tricky getting partsMay 15 19:43
DaemonFCThey probably regret using that.May 15 19:43
oiaohmcubexyz: it requires about a new screen every 2 years.May 15 19:43
cubexyzoiaohm, eh? How come?May 15 19:44
DaemonFCIf anything happens to that one guy, they're screwed. Nobody else will ever figure it out.May 15 19:44
cubexyzoh earthquakes right :)May 15 19:44
DaemonFCFrom what I understand, he's not charging them too much to keep it working.May 15 19:44
cubexyzthat looks like a 500May 15 19:44
cubexyzif it's the correct pictureMay 15 19:44
DaemonFCThey should look at Nest or something like that.May 15 19:44
oiaohmThe amiga one makes no real sense.May 15 19:45
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cubexyzI wouldn't say an Amiga 500 is "ancient"May 15 19:45
oiaohmThe XT it going to hard to replace.May 15 19:45
oiaohmThe lower complexity motherboard has allowed tracks in the Xt to be fixed with solder and other things.May 15 19:45
cubexyzoiaohm, why don't they fix up some computer with shock absorption?May 15 19:46
DaemonFCoiaohm, They have an XT at the history museum in Fort Wayne. I don't know why. Probably just had one and couldn't think of anything to use it for these days.May 15 19:46
oiaohmcubexyz: they did try that until the cable to the sensors start cracking up.May 15 19:46
oiaohmcubexyz: constant bending May 15 19:46
cubexyzah, special caseMay 15 19:47
DaemonFCThey could probably use XP in some settings if it doesn't have internet access and it has been set up to not allow external storage to be connected by a regular user account.May 15 19:47
cubexyzdoes it have a hard drive?May 15 19:47
oiaohmThey may be able to go to a satalight grade i486 compadible.May 15 19:47
DaemonFCBut the fact that millions of these systems are still on the internet is scary.May 15 19:47
cubexyzyeah, I've been telling people to air gap their XP boxesMay 15 19:48
cubexyzno wifi, no ethernet connectionsMay 15 19:48
oiaohmcubexyz: a 1 foot a cross harddrive with a cm thick plats.  has enough gyro force to be stable.May 15 19:48
DaemonFCI remember when I was glad our library got XP.May 15 19:48
oiaohmcubexyz: it is the define of scary equipment.May 15 19:48
DaemonFCThey had been making us use Windows 95 and Netscape 4 to access the internet.May 15 19:48
DaemonFCIt was intolerable.May 15 19:48
oiaohmcubexyz: old but that old hardware can put up with unbeleivable amount of vibration.May 15 19:49
cubexyzat least with an amiga 500 viruses would be unlikelyMay 15 19:49
DaemonFCBy the year 2002, there was enough Javascript and CSS around that Netscape 4 would just crash and choke on nearly everything.May 15 19:49
cubexyzoiaohm, remember the nuke plants with PDP-11sMay 15 19:49
DaemonFCIt was just barely good enough to check your hotmail.May 15 19:49
cubexyzthere's a reason for thatMay 15 19:49
oiaohmcubexyz: particularly when you consider it has to because a woren out bearings in a 1 foot across harddrive works as quite a good earth quake simulator.May 15 19:50
cubexyzI'd use lynx on very old computersMay 15 19:50
cubexyzor some text based web browserMay 15 19:51
DaemonFCThe internet terminals at the Chicago libraries right now is Windows 7 and IE 11.May 15 19:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: there are places for old computers because they are durable.   That XT they have lined up hardware to replace it when it finally packs it in.May 15 19:51
DaemonFCI mostly just use it for printing. I have a throwaway Outlook account that I don't care if it gets taken over or whatever.May 15 19:51
DaemonFCThat's the only thing I log into there.May 15 19:52
oiaohmThe big issue is like that head and ac where there is not a replacement plan in place.May 15 19:52
oiaohmThat earthquake XT has had 5 days of downtime in 20 years.May 15 19:53
DaemonFCoiaohm, It's the government. May 15 19:53
cubexyzI could run IRC on quasijarus if I wanted toMay 15 19:53
cubexyzit's not fun but I _could_ do itMay 15 19:53
oiaohmDaemonFC: yes that is a government computer.May 15 19:53
DaemonFCIt's going to be chintzy.May 15 19:53
DaemonFCJust look at what $2 billion bought with the first version of Healthcare.govMay 15 19:54
cubexyzoiaohm, I'm curious to know which LCD they used for that XTMay 15 19:54
cubexyzdoes it have 8-bit VGA card or something?May 15 19:54
oiaohmcubexyz: you can order them for industrial machines.  It is CGA.May 15 19:54
cubexyzah I seeMay 15 19:54
oiaohmcubexyz: it job is simple monitor the sensors record the data then twice a day dial a number and send the data in.May 15 19:56
oiaohmcubexyz: and if there is no shakes for more than 2 hours also straight up dial.May 15 19:56
oiaohmcubexyz: its a strange place it safe for humans as long as it shaking when it stops that is when a big earth quake in the area is coming.May 15 19:57
oiaohmcubexyz: and it strange because you can prevent earthquakes there by doing a water release and triggering small quakes instead of having the big one.May 15 19:59
cubexyzis it close to a volcano?May 15 19:59
oiaohmcubexyz: no the complete place is sitting on a moving floating rock slab.May 15 19:59
oiaohmcubexyz: it when it gets stuck do problems happen.May 15 20:00
cubexyzI think the IBM 5151 would be the original monitorMay 15 20:01
oiaohmcubexyz: yes if everyone moves to one side of the town it would tip by about 4 degrees.May 15 20:01
cubexyzwhere is this?May 15 20:01
oiaohmTo be correct the part of the town on slab.   The place is called gayndah.  native meaning of the name is place of thunder.  Kinda makes sense.May 15 20:02
DaemonFCDid Fedora drop 32-bit x86 support completely?May 15 20:02
cubexyzyes I think soMay 15 20:03
oiaohmcubexyz: its one of the few towns in Australia that has the correct tribal name.May 15 20:03
DaemonFCI always figured that they would be the first.May 15 20:03
cubexyzFedora 24 server dropped i686 supportMay 15 20:03
cubexyznot positive about completely thoughMay 15 20:04
DaemonFCProbably still has the 32-bit compatibility libraries though?May 15 20:04
DaemonFCToo much software needs that (Wine for instance).May 15 20:04
cubexyzall I can tell you is about slackware... and it does have 32-bit compatibility libsMay 15 20:05
cubexyzbut I run a ton of older computers so no problem thereMay 15 20:05
cubexyzof course you have to add the 32-bit compatibility stuff in yourselfMay 15 20:05
oiaohmDaemonFC: wine has required the Linux kernel to maintain support for 16 bit protected and other things.May 15 20:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: for a while the wine project was scared when 16 bit protected was dropped from 64 bit kernels.May 15 20:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: until Linus said it had to be put back.May 15 20:07
oiaohmIts why its such a laugh when people say will wine run until WSL.May 15 20:07
oiaohmI don't see Microsoft put in the parts wine needs.May 15 20:07
cubexyzWSL?May 15 20:07
cubexyzoh the subsystem May 15 20:08
DaemonFCYeah, no actual Linux code.May 15 20:08
DaemonFCThey won't go near that.May 15 20:08
DaemonFCIt should really be called Bash for Windows or something.May 15 20:09
cubexyzI stopped using Fedora May 15 20:10
cubexyzFedora 16 was the last one I triedMay 15 20:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: it could be interesting that GPL has been confirmed as a contract.May 15 20:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: it would be funny if WSL turns out not to be legal because of that.May 15 20:11
DaemonFCThere's no Linux kernel codeMay 15 20:12
DaemonFCI don't see how Microsoft distributing Bash could be illegal.May 15 20:13
DaemonFCIt's not a derivative work of Windows. It's just a programMay 15 20:13
DaemonFCBesides, there's now GPLv3 licensed software in the Windows Store.May 15 20:13
DaemonFCAt least one app. ublock-origin for Microsoft Edge.May 15 20:14
cubexyzI've heard of a few people actually compiling their own windowsMay 15 20:14
cubexyzwindows NT somethingMay 15 20:14
cubexyzthey had the windows entertainment pack code  and a full win32 subsystem: GDI32, User32, Kernel32, win32k, csrss etc, etcMay 15 20:16
DaemonFCOnly parts of the Windows source code have ever been released.May 15 20:16
DaemonFCSome unintentionally and illegally (parts of Windows NT4/2000 in the MainWin leak). Some by Microsoft, but all you could do is look at it (Windows Research Kernel, based on Windows 2003 with a bunch of stuff like filesystem code missing).May 15 20:17
cubexyzuh yeah there's the windows research kernelMay 15 20:18
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cubexyznot sure exactly what they did May 15 20:18
cubexyzhttps://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=8306&sid=caf7b9a10e6dd4e0998329982b05fd12&start=125May 15 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-View topic - Windows NT Source Compiled! - BetaArchiveMay 15 20:20
cubexyzI think they have the entire NT 4.0May 15 20:25
cubexyznot partsMay 15 20:25
cubexyzhttp://igorkorkin.blogspot.ca/2013/09/windows-nt-40-full-free-source-code-912_16.htmlMay 15 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-igorkorkin.blogspot.ca | The science of stealth malware detection: Windows NT 4.0 Full Free Source Code (912 MB) [ http://ur1.ca/qv4zv ]May 15 20:26
cubexyzso thereMay 15 20:26
cubexyzlooks like the full version was KOed thoughMay 15 20:31
cubexyzthat file is only 106 megsMay 15 20:32
razielle_tzuit seems to be the whole thing, extracted it is 915 megMay 15 20:35
cubexyzhttps://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TmCMteX1XJIJ:https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D33250+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-aMay 15 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webcache.googleusercontent.com | View topic - Windows NT 4 Source Compiled! version 2 - BetaArchiveMay 15 20:39
cubexyz"The only missing component that prevents the full compilation of the source code is the implementation of DES/CBC cryptographic functions and rsa32.lib (rsa32.lib is only available in compiled form, no source is known to be available for it at this time)."May 15 20:40
cubexyzah cool :)May 15 20:42
oiaohmcubexyz: of course that does not mean it legal to use.May 15 20:54
oiaohmcubexyz: if it was reactos would be a lot more complete.May 15 20:55
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DaemonFChttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.htmlMay 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Skylake's power management under Linux is dreadful and you shouldn't buy one until it's fixedMay 15 21:38
DaemonFCI just tried out Ubuntu 17.04 and it was getting to pc8 quite a bit of the time.May 15 21:38
DaemonFCThat's on Linux 4.10.May 15 21:39
DaemonFCMy laptop seemed to be running pretty cool. Very little fan activity.May 15 21:39
DaemonFCI'll probably go back to Ubuntu later this year from Windows 10.May 15 21:39
DaemonFCI want them to go back to GNOME officially first.May 15 21:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/japalmeira/status/864265415253512192May 15 21:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I wonder how long the power management on Skylake has been alright.May 15 21:48
DaemonFCMathew Garrett was complaining last year that it wouldn't do any good to get Linux installable on Skylake-based Lenovo Yoga laptops because the power management sucked.May 15 21:48
DaemonFCApparently, it doesn't suck now, and you can use the powertop service to make sure everything is tuned on every start up.May 15 21:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: 4.11 kernel had a few fixes.May 15 21:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: those were back ported to LTS linux kernels.May 15 21:51
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DaemonFCIntel hasn't been very good about supporting Linux with their latest hardware, so it's been more than a year now since Skylake launched and it's just now getting to the point where you'd want to use Linux on it, if you can get it installed (nasty Lenovo RAID garbage).May 15 22:30
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cubexyzI wonder if IE 2.0 source is in hereMay 16 00:23
cubexyzalso makes me wonder what kind of hardware they had back then to compile itMay 16 00:26
cubexyzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa2jAAh4VgQMay 16 00:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed, Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 | Tux MachinesMay 16 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed, Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/JQm3UtN8TI https://t.co/U3rhs5Db9EMay 16 00:36
cubexyza lot of the filenames are 8.3 May 16 00:36
cubexyznot sure how they're getting away with writing openNTMay 16 00:40
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cubexyzback to the normality of 3bsd I thinkMay 16 01:12
MinceRhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-guest-sessions-login-disabledMay 16 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Security Flaw in Ubuntu Login Screen Could Let Anyone Access Your Files - OMG! Ubuntu!May 16 01:27
cubexyzif you have physical access you can do a lot of thingsMay 16 01:47
cubexyzblame systemd :)May 16 01:48
MinceRalso blame lightdmMay 16 01:52
MinceRit's a piece of shitMay 16 01:52
MinceRand also blame ubuntuMay 16 01:53
MinceRpoint is, this is what happens when people overcomplicate everything, then mess around with them without understanding what's happeningMay 16 01:54
DaemonFC`MinceR, I ran across some guy screaming that GNOME 3 is part of the FSF's plan to centralize and control everything.May 16 02:02
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DaemonFCThere are a collection of Shell extensions that let people customize it considerably.May 16 02:02
MinceRif only it was the FSF'sMay 16 02:03
MinceRbut it's red hat'sMay 16 02:03
MinceRthe FSF is content to be a puppet of red hat, so long as they keep sending them moneyMay 16 02:03
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/TsxO4Mk.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/TsxO4Mk )May 16 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Crab eating a strawberryMay 16 02:16
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cubexyzlinux software is a bit like a big banquet tableMay 16 03:23
cubexyzyou look around and partake in what you likeMay 16 03:24
cubexyzif you don't like Ubuntu there's lots of other distros to choose fromMay 16 03:24
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MinceRindeedMay 16 06:07
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amarsh04looking for recommendations to answer this request: "I want to upgrade my parental desktop OS, due to the massive ransomware floating about. It's a 2004 XP machine, and for their comfort, it would need to be a Linux distro that replicates the feel and look of XP. I'm currently looking at Lubuntu for that purpose, but if you know a better distro that meets my criteria, I'm happy to look at it/use it."May 16 07:51
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/GDHjZ3g.jpgMay 16 08:41
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TweetTuxMachines                 Here Is What You Need To Know About WannCry RansomwareMay 16 09:47
TweetTuxMachines                 That's Infecting Windows Systems GloballyMay 16 09:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zqBOB28Y3V (www.tuxmachines.org)May 16 09:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here Is What You Need To Know About WannCry Ransomware That's Infecting Windows Systems Globally | Tux MachinesMay 16 09:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 Behold, auto-completing Android bug reports – becauseMay 16 10:21
TweetTuxMachines                 you're not very thorough https://t.co/O7aU0k4wseMay 16 10:21
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TweetTuxMachines                 Get Familiar with Your Android SmartphoneMay 16 10:22
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TweetTuxMachines                 For the first time in years #tuxmachines is over a dayMay 16 10:31
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MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1592May 16 11:13
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/WFGLoMay 16 14:26
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MinceRhttps://media.8ch.net/file_store/84469ba88adfa3354edfc8d5b65a4c08671eeaa8d351e0915bf9a683ad560f51.webm   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqega6a2g6AMay 16 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864565406039658496May 16 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Plasma 5.10 Beta, Slicker Desktop https://t.co/RLoCrYy2sYMay 16 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/JJhRD6DP3TMay 16 16:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.10 Beta, Slicker Desktop | Tux MachinesMay 16 16:30
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cubexyzI think Trump is finished May 16 18:18
cubexyzthe end is nearMay 16 18:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Did I miss something?May 16 18:19
XRevan86I'm mostly focusing on local news right now, they are pretty crazy :)May 16 18:19
cubexyzTrump was telling Comey to stop investigating FlynnMay 16 18:19
cubexyzkind of a big dealMay 16 18:20
XRevan86If he's an honest man, he has nothing to worry about, amarait?May 16 18:20
cubexyzhaMay 16 18:20
XRevan86Poroshenko decreed Ukraine needs to block big Russian websites like Yandex and VK.com. RF newschannels went crazy and now issue guidelines how to avoid the block.May 16 18:31
XRevan86The wildest thing here is that Internet censorship is in RF since 2012.May 16 18:31
XRevan86And power's relationship with block avoiding techniques was 360° just a few days ago.May 16 18:32
XRevan86What a lovely double-think.May 16 18:33
XRevan86Ukrainian citizens seem to not like the idea so I guess their government jumped the shark too.May 16 18:34
XRevan86I mean, like actually not like and not the usual "meh"May 16 18:36
cubexyzI hope we don't block yandexMay 16 19:05
cubexyzI still update openbsd 4.7 with itMay 16 19:05
XRevan86cubexyz: mirror.yandex.ru? A great mirror indeed.May 16 19:14
cubexyzyesMay 16 19:14
cubexyzall the other sites seem to always delete older stuffMay 16 19:15
XRevan86As a search engine Yandex has a lot of space.May 16 19:15
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/NQutRrA.jpgMay 17 01:18
MinceRlol @ russiaMay 17 01:18
MinceRthey believe only they have the right to block others?May 17 01:19
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TweetTuxMachines                 BSD Leftovers https://t.co/Qq1HgZYpgdMay 17 04:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 04:37
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liberty_boxhttps://twitter.com/fflandro/status/864763637759692800May 17 04:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864761681074769921May 17 05:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/ofRQlhzlQhMay 17 05:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864795160697163777May 17 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Possible Protections To Take Against WannaCry RansomwareMay 17 07:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Attack https://t.co/IeYJ9D9tgZ (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 07:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Possible Protections To Take Against WannaCry Ransomware Attack | Tux MachinesMay 17 07:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Let's hope for a visit in London...'May 17 11:00
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XRevan86https://i.imgur.com/6MIhZj4.gifvMay 17 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | hmmmMay 17 11:57
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TweetTuxMachines                 Building Linux-powered devices, part 1: Making myMay 17 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-only world a reality - Network WorldMay 17 12:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IXTb920b5i (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building Linux-powered devices, part 1: Making my Linux-only world a reality - Network World | Tux MachinesMay 17 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864878361272700928May 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available forMay 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS https://t.co/ZbQwfp9zpwMay 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/1kZUd1KMUUMay 17 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available for Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS | Tux MachinesMay 17 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available for Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS https://t.co/ZbQwfp9zpw https://t.co/1kZUd1KMUUMay 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864878374124113920May 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, BasedMay 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 on Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS https://t.co/ZGy3k51rh4May 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/F8OCaGZk2NMay 17 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, Based on Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS | Tux MachinesMay 17 12:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, Based...'May 17 12:25
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/E9m4HA6.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/Cupmw )May 17 12:59
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MinceRhttps://9gag.com/gag/a2rggydMay 17 13:44
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XRevan86https://linphone.org/desktop-4.0May 17 14:33
XRevan86> We are currently working on the development of our new Linphone Desktop application, Qt-based, with elegant and modern look and feel, and a lot of new features.May 17 14:33
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XRevan86Qt-based O_OMay 17 14:33
cubexyzit's not necessary to live in a linux-only world nor would I want toMay 17 15:46
cubexyzone needs three things: the hardware (simulated or real), the compiler, and the source codeMay 17 15:48
cubexyzI still look at CP/M, DMS, RT11, 4.3BSD (Quasijarus), and Plan 9May 17 15:50
cubexyzLGP used to port games to PPCMay 17 15:58
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/EYWofng.jpg   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/22tKF )May 17 16:15
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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/182May 17 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864961759286669312May 17 18:30
TweetTuxMachines                 NixOS 17.03 "Gorilla" https://t.co/ueiE2gkaQyMay 17 18:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/jAbRK5Ifw3May 17 18:30
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cubexyztrump wanted Comey to jail journalistsMay 17 19:49
cubexyzso yeah, time to impeachMay 17 19:49
cubexyzit's turned into a farceMay 17 19:49
cubexyzok, I had some trouble with mint and systemd :-/May 17 19:54
cubexyzI put xautolock in xinitrc and it didn't work for some reasonMay 17 19:55
cubexyzended up using "nohup xautolock etc etc" in .bashrcMay 17 19:55
cubexyznot ideal, but at least it workedMay 17 19:56
XRevan86cubexyz: setsidMay 17 19:56
cubexyzit should have worked in /etc/rc.local at leastMay 17 19:58
cubexyzI forget the exact errorMay 17 19:58
cubexyzbut I'll have another look at it laterMay 17 20:00
XRevan86cubexyz: Does your distro have /etc/profile.d/ ?May 17 20:00
cubexyznormally in slackware I just add xautolock to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrcMay 17 20:00
cubexyzXRevan86, not sure... that box is suspended at the momentMay 17 20:01
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah, I missed some stuff you wrote.May 17 20:01
XRevan86So, MintMay 17 20:01
cubexyzslack has /etc/profile.dMay 17 20:02
XRevan86cubexyz: Add a file to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/May 17 20:02
XRevan86that's the best wayMay 17 20:02
cubexyzokMay 17 20:02
cubexyznormally I change the WM stuff in xinitrc and put xautolock just before the WM stuffMay 17 20:03
XRevan86systemd has no problem with rc.local, in Debian derivatives it's read by default. But… X.org usually starts later, and I'm not sure it's even possible to execute X11 stuff from root when it's running from a user…May 17 20:03
XRevan86cubexyz: Debian has Xsession.d, it's the same thing.May 17 20:04
cubexyzI'm more used to the slackware way, but clearly it didn't work in mintMay 17 20:05
XRevan86cubexyz: Distros are allowed to have different ways of doing such stuff %)May 17 20:06
XRevan86The more I think about rc.local the sillier it seems. Like, how would one know the $XAUTHORITY from there even?May 17 20:06
XRevan86cubexyz: /etc/profile.d/ also should work in Debian but Xsession.d/ is still better for this case.May 17 20:08
cubexyzwell I was experimenting by that point :)May 17 20:08
cubexyzxinitrc should have workedMay 17 20:08
cubexyzbut who knows... maybe mint doesn't even use thatMay 17 20:08
cubexyzok, no X11 stuff in rc.local is a rule May 17 20:09
XRevan86https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession#ConfigurationMay 17 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | Xsession - Debian WikiMay 17 20:10
cubexyzactually I'd rather have a non-X11 way to suspend on inactivity May 17 20:11
XRevan86You can also do ~/.xinitrc but that's for startxMay 17 20:12
XRevan86and something generic definitely shouldn't go there even if you want to startxMay 17 20:12
cubexyzif the user does ctrl-atl-f1 will that stop xautolock from suspending the system? I don't knowMay 17 20:12
cubexyzon slack and openbsd the system usually doesn't start X up automaticallyMay 17 20:13
XRevan86cubexyz: It won't, it'll count that time as idle even when the user is typing into the ttyMay 17 20:13
cubexyzinterestingMay 17 20:13
XRevan86and will lock the X serverMay 17 20:13
XRevan86Well, it only monitors the X11 display, y'know %)May 17 20:14
cubexyzyes, it is xautolock not autolock :)May 17 20:14
XRevan86everything outside counts as neither activity nor inactivityMay 17 20:14
cubexyzwell it's fine thoughMay 17 20:15
cubexyzI'd rather it did suspendMay 17 20:15
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm kinda puzzled, since you're mentioning MintMay 17 20:16
cubexyzcustomers use Mint so I have to know about itMay 17 20:16
XRevan86cubexyz: Why using xautolock when you have a complete DE?May 17 20:16
XRevan86and if you don't have a complete DE, why calling it Mint and not Ubuntu? %)May 17 20:16
XRevan86mate-screensaver and cinnamon-screensaver are quite capable.May 17 20:17
XRevan86kscreensaver tooMay 17 20:17
XRevan86And whatever Mint uses for Xfce. light-locker maybe?May 17 20:18
cubexyzright, well your comments are completely reasonable... probably just because I'm not that knowledgeable about mintMay 17 20:18
cubexyzand I could change from cinnamon-screensaver to icewm in the futureMay 17 20:19
cubexyzit's a bit sluggishMay 17 20:19
cubexyzonly one gig of ramMay 17 20:19
XRevan86cubexyz: A screenlocker with a WM?May 17 20:19
XRevan86hardly an appropriate swap :DMay 17 20:20
XRevan86cubexyz: If you mean Cinnamon, then… it's supposed to be resource-hungry %).May 17 20:20
XRevan86A fork of GNOME Shell after all.May 17 20:20
XRevan86cubexyz: There's a MATE edition of Linux Mint available too.May 17 20:21
XRevan86only the default menu (mintMenu) is slow thereMay 17 20:21
cubexyzthe laptop is kind of old... 2004 HP NX9030May 17 20:22
cubexyzso whatever works good with thatMay 17 20:22
cubexyzreboots are slowMay 17 20:23
cubexyzoh and it has to be 32-bitMay 17 20:24
XRevan86cubexyz: If you're interested in a screenlocker-agnostic way of locking the screen: loginctl lock-sessionMay 17 20:24
cubexyzsounds systemd style but ok since I'm using it on one boxMay 17 20:25
XRevan86cubexyz: What's with RAM?May 17 20:25
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, yeah. Don't know if there's a way without logind.May 17 20:25
cubexyzI think I can upgrade to 2 gigs of ram on NX9030May 17 20:26
cubexyzXRevan86, well xautolock maybe? :)May 17 20:27
cubexyzit did work after allMay 17 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: It needs to know what to launch from CLIMay 17 20:27
XRevan86Very redundant when something like mate-screensaver-command is already available.May 17 20:28
XRevan86if I have to mention it one way or another :)May 17 20:28
XRevan86and the screenlocker daemon already does the jobMay 17 20:28
cubexyzyes, probably since I put icewm on so many boxes I was thinking in icewm termsMay 17 20:29
XRevan86cubexyz: Have you ever tried awesome WM?May 17 20:30
XRevan86cubexyz: What programme do you usually specify as -locker for xautolock?May 17 20:31
cubexyzfvwm2, kde, twm, icewm, tinywm, xfce, ratpoisonMay 17 20:31
cubexyz-locker is just pm-suspendMay 17 20:31
XRevan86cubexyz: ohMay 17 20:31
cubexyzhaven't tried awesome as yetMay 17 20:32
cubexyzdidn't like ratpoison May 17 20:32
XRevan86cubexyz: https://freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/logind.conf.html IdleAction and IdleActionSec.May 17 20:33
cubexyzand I also tried mwmMay 17 20:33
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cubexyzxinit /mnt/f/openmotif/openmotif-2.3xinit /mnt/f/openmotif/openmotif-2.3.3/clients/mwm/mwm -- :8 -render gray -terminate & sleep 2.3/clients/mwm/mwm -- :8 -render gray -terminate & sleep 2May 17 20:33
XRevan86No screenlocker is needed at all…May 17 20:33
XRevan86for this caseMay 17 20:33
cubexyzborked it up :-/May 17 20:33
cubexyzanyways I also tried mwmMay 17 20:34
XRevan86cubexyz: awesome's main feature is insane configurability.May 17 20:34
XRevan86And also easy through luaMay 17 20:34
XRevan86So it's not like ratpoison :)May 17 20:34
cubexyzI like a certain level of minimalityMay 17 20:35
cubexyzok, I don't really want to get too much into systemd stuffMay 17 20:35
cubexyzmint is the exceptionMay 17 20:35
XRevan86cubexyz: So you want to have a daemon running? %)May 17 20:35
XRevan86systemd will track activity regardless of X11 at all.May 17 20:36
cubexyzI could be running openbsd or slack May 17 20:36
XRevan86cubexyz: awesome is not in the spirit of MintMay 17 20:36
cubexyzsee, I have to think beyond systemd :)May 17 20:36
XRevan86cubexyz: So you're only left with Cinnamon and MATE %)May 17 20:36
XRevan86and MATE is definitely lighterMay 17 20:37
cubexyzyeah cinnamon wasn't a great choiceMay 17 20:37
cubexyzbasically I just downloaded something new for 32-bitMay 17 20:37
XRevan86cubexyz: If you're more interested in the lower level than fluff, Debian could be a nicer choice.May 17 20:38
XRevan86As it's very similair to Ubuntu and Mint in the way things are arranged.May 17 20:38
XRevan86Also Debian is keeping IA32 and Ubuntu doesn't.May 17 20:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Considering that, go Debian Stretch :).May 17 20:41
XRevan86The IA32 is strong in it.May 17 20:41
XRevan86And I'll go to sleep :).May 17 20:42
XRevan86cubexyz: Bonan nokton.May 17 20:42
XRevan86mi iros nunMay 17 20:44
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cube-chromeswitching computersMay 17 20:48
cube-chromealso switching irc clientsMay 17 20:48
cube-chromemy other issue is that I can't suspend on openbsd or the old vector computerMay 17 20:49
cube-chromeso lots of stuff to study May 17 20:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865132631389724672May 18 05:11
TweetTuxMachines                 NHS mulling Ubuntu switch after Windows XP fail?May 18 05:11
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/G8cWZAsQ1E (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 05:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NHS mulling Ubuntu switch after Windows XP fail? | Tux MachinesMay 18 05:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865132644614365185May 18 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Android embraces the Kotlin programming languageMay 18 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3CTXMGSyCQ (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bO6ZeJcKe4May 18 06:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android embraces the Kotlin programming language | Tux MachinesMay 18 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Android embraces the Kotlin programming language https://t.co/3CTXMGSyCQ https://t.co/bO6ZeJcKe4May 18 06:03
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 18/5/2017: Catching Up With the Past Three DaysMay 18 06:15
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TweetTuxMachines                 BSD and Security Leftovers https://t.co/xTOVTd2ZqFMay 18 06:15
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftover https://t.co/v5Rbd8DEaNMay 18 07:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 07:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftover | Tux MachinesMay 18 07:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865181709142077441May 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Why Europe’s dependency on Microsoft is a huge securityMay 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 risk https://t.co/cnCvxYp0AW (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Europe’s dependency on Microsoft is a huge security risk | Tux MachinesMay 18 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865206613627478017May 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Tiny Snapdragon 820 module offers Linux, Android 7.0, andMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 9-axis MEMs https://t.co/ORCC65J0Sm (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 10:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Snapdragon 820 module offers Linux, Android 7.0, and 9-axis MEMs | Tux MachinesMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865206626743066625May 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 The ultimate Linux Trojan horse: Windows Subsystem forMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux https://t.co/rhCKecbBMO (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fLtR7Te6CaMay 18 10:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The ultimate Linux Trojan horse: Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tux MachinesMay 18 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: The ultimate Linux Trojan horse: Windows Subsystem for Linux https://t.co/rhCKecbBMO https://t.co/fLtR7Te6CaMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865206637891432448May 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share PrintersMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpahMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 18 10:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices | Tux MachinesMay 18 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpah https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865206656325394432May 18 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11 Xfce and MATE Spins NowMay 18 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Download https://t.co/tHqNRNgVKYMay 18 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/P2ZxWNS14SMay 18 10:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11 Xfce and MATE Spins Now Available for Download | Tux MachinesMay 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11 Xfce and MATE Spins Now Available for Download https://t.co/tHqNRNgVKY https://t.co/P2ZxWNS14SMay 18 10:10
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MinceRwaking up a cat with an air horn >> http://i.imgur.com/Qhyj95U.gifvMay 18 10:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/865215748695654405May 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 18/5/2017: Catching Up With the Past Three DaysMay 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/1LYGteoTid (techrights.org) #techrightsMay 18 11:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865222909949652994May 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 4 ways Red Hat is addressing the IT skills gapMay 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6H1xSrWApg (www.techrepublic.com) #redhatMay 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxMay 18 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4 ways Red Hat is addressing the IT skills gap - TechRepublicMay 18 11:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223077742862338May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat’s #Cormier dishes on #OpenShift .io andMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #Container Health Index https://t.co/ESTJ5LOvxbMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (searchcloudapplications.techtarget.com) “We’ve moved wayMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 past flea markets.”May 18 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchcloudapplications.techtarget.com | Red Hat's Cormier dishes on OpenShift.io and Container Health IndexMay 18 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223154330775552May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z4 Hands On: The first look at the Tizen 3.0May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile https://t.co/VGnmyxaOUL (www.tizenexperts.com)May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #tizen #linux #samsungMay 18 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung Z4 Hands On: The first look at the Tizen 3.0 mobile - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223253203210240May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #elementaryOS 0.4.1 Arrives with New AppCenter, LatestMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 HWE from Ubuntu 16.04.2 https://t.co/4ZsPpHof6dMay 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMay 18 11:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | elementary OS 0.4.1 Arrives with New AppCenter, Latest HWE from Ubuntu 16.04.2May 18 11:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223372052897793May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #Canonical Readies #Mesa 17.1.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 andMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 17.04, Here’s How to Install https://t.co/s7ypnPIqzkMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMay 18 11:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Canonical Readies Mesa 17.1.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 and 17.04, Here's How to InstallMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223484410019841May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung to extend Tizen device ecosystem with Tizen 4.0May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/TYJlVgKCPF (www.tizenexperts.com)May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XcMRU2reCv (www.tizenexperts.com) #tizenMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxMay 18 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung to extend Tizen device ecosystem with Tizen 4.0 - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 11:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Highlights of TDC 2017: Key focus on IoT with Tizen 4.0 and Tizen RT - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223579448745984May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Spying and controlling one’s staff using wristbands thatMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 are ‘smart’ (what an Orweillian step)May 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MlmnSNfMFQ (www.tizenexperts.com)May 18 11:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung and Hipaax unveil IoT-Enabled Business solution for Gear S3 / S2 - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223594392997889May 18 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z4, Tizen 4.0 and More TizenMay 18 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/jzXAnr1nzj (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Z4, Tizen 4.0 and More Tizen | Tux MachinesMay 18 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223596741754886May 18 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat News https://t.co/7qiJZ78fViMay 18 11:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux MachinesMay 18 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865223689402425347May 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 #BlackLab Enterprise Linux 11 #Xfce and #MATE Spins NowMay 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Available for Download https://t.co/siBYs2NpWGMay 18 11:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #gnu #linuxMay 18 11:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11 Xfce and MATE Spins Now Available for DownloadMay 18 11:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865240596893507584May 18 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Domination and Android O https://t.co/kd3CJmp6GgMay 18 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Domination and Android O | Tux MachinesMay 18 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865244417552023552May 18 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 The world is now powered by #android on the client sideMay 18 12:37
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/dOOUZgcLfg (www.theinquirer.net)May 18 12:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Android now has more than two billion active users | TheINQUIRERMay 18 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865244958852239362May 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 3 benefits you didn’t expect from #Linux #containersMay 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/srtaf83bdF (www.networkworld.com) #gnuMay 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #freesw #serverMay 18 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | 3 benefits you didn’t expect from Linux containers | Network WorldMay 18 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865245044210491392May 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Android O Beta: Our first take https://t.co/t8FmsoMwgxMay 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com) #linuxMay 18 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865245125303164931May 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Android O is shaping up to be exactly what Android needsMay 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2wu9Gb295X (www.theverge.com) #androidMay 18 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxMay 18 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Android O is shaping up to be exactly what Android needs - The VergeMay 18 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865245327942598658May 18 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Improve focus and productivity by listening to differentMay 18 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 soundsMay 18 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rfOS25RMZB (blogs.gnome.org)May 18 12:47
TweetTuxMachines                 “I created a #GNOME Shell extension”May 18 12:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Improve focus and productivity by listening to different sounds – Felipe BorgesMay 18 12:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/865247407155679232May 18 12:53
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Android O Beta: Our first take https://t.co/t8FmsoMwgxMay 18 12:53
TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33       (www.digitaltrends.com) #linuxMay 18 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865249022746820608May 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/XHNUmnFTdLMay 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/865250118542385152May 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 We have begun populating @tuxmachines with some moreMay 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 recent news items; a lot of data out of date, but betterMay 18 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 than nothing at all.May 18 12:58
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liberty_boxThe #internet is a sordid mess which, in spite of 'smart' and 'IoT' hype, isn't suitable for portability. And RSS is still under a major attack.May 18 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 The latest Il giornaluzzo di Claudio!May 18 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ioLvbdOZZo (paper.li) Thanks to @RoomlalaITMay 18 14:46
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines @turismoER #android #linuxMay 18 14:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Il giornaluzzo di ClaudioMay 18 14:46
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liberty_boxhttps://twitter.com/aimee_maree/status/865255952139730944May 18 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aimee_maree: I remember @paulwberg once told me the year of Linux on the desktop has come and gone as most of our clients run so… https://t.co/QgzQ2pviblMay 18 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aimee_maree: I remember @paulwberg once told me the year of Linux on the desktop has come and gone as most of our clients run so… https://t.co/QgzQ2pviblMay 18 16:03
liberty_box"3 hours agoMay 18 16:03
liberty_boxAimee Maree Retweeted Dr. Roy SchestowitzMay 18 16:03
liberty_boxI remember @paulwberg once told me the year of Linux on the desktop has come and gone as most of our clients run some form of Linux..."May 18 16:03
liberty_boxhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/865261857128554496May 18 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz you might like this, v @HackerNews cc @gassee "#Windows 10 S is crippleware" https://t.co/jab772ADq5 https://t.co/uKWOXVV2RpMay 18 16:04
liberty_box"2 hours agoMay 18 16:04
liberty_box@schestowitz you might like this, v @HackerNews cc @gassee May 18 16:04
liberty_box"#Windows 10 S is crippleware"May 18 16:04
liberty_boxhttp://www.computerworld.com/article/3197446/microsoft-windows/windows-10-s-is-crippleware.html …"May 18 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 S is crippleware | ComputerworldMay 18 16:04
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/FV5EnXh.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/FV5EnXh )May 18 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | This handsome fellow visits me every other dayMay 18 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This handsome fellow visits me every other day - GIF on ImgurMay 18 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865306773179125761May 18 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Tizen Everywhere at Samsung https://t.co/FdkvwSAfN5May 18 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen Everywhere at Samsung | Tux MachinesMay 18 16:48
MinceRhttps://i2.wp.com/knuckledraggin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5237.jpgMay 18 16:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865310726759432192May 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #Samsung to extend #Tizen OS to nearly all homeMay 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 wappliances by 2020 https://t.co/0vqB2GI1DlMay 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com) sadly, it’s used for #surveillanceMay 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 too. #linuxMay 18 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung to extend Tizen OS to nearly all home appliances by 2020 - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865310811383750656May 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #samsung looks pretty committed to #tizenMay 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/kd2s3Xcszu (www.tizenexperts.com)May 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 less monopoly for #android among #linux based OSesMay 18 16:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung VP speaks on vision for Tizen, Tizen 4.0 and ongoing development of the platform - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 16:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865310944926113793May 18 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat exec talks up new London ‘innovation lab’May 18 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ANsgxdyOkD (www.bizjournals.com) behindMay 18 17:00
TweetTuxMachines                 paywall. #redhat #uk #londonMay 18 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | NO TITLEMay 18 17:00
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/CtqmOv5.gifv   (gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/8i7tB )May 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMay 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BANNED COMMERCIAL  - Album on ImgurMay 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865315330280767488May 18 18:20
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/22orrg5DSAMay 18 18:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 18:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 18 18:20
XRevan86MinceR: I knew itMay 18 18:24
XRevan86that they are advertising some sort of red juiceMay 18 18:24
MinceR:)May 18 18:24
MinceRketchup!May 18 18:24
XRevan86MinceR: No, too thick %)May 18 18:26
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MinceRthat's what she said.May 18 18:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865331323140845568May 18 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/B4jHryl7mLMay 18 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 18:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 18 18:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share...'May 18 18:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11 Xfce and MATE...'May 18 18:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#BlackLab Enterprise Linux 11 #Xfce and #MATE Spins...'May 18 18:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#elementaryOS 0.4.1 Arrives with New AppCenter, Latest HWE...'May 18 18:53
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Canonical Readies #Mesa 17.1.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 and...'May 18 19:03
*TweetTuxMachines @aberbamx favourited 'Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share...'May 18 19:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/aberbamx/status/865342156596236290May 18 19:09
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share PrintersMay 18 19:09
TweetTuxMachines @aberbamx       from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpahMay 18 19:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 18 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices | Tux MachinesMay 18 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpah https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 18 19:09
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cubexyzlooking at the new Lenovo thinkpadsMay 18 19:31
cubexyzno thanksMay 18 19:31
cubexyznaturally its got win10 on itMay 18 19:31
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cubexyznot sure why linux went with /etc/rc.d/rc.local rather than just /etc/rc.localMay 18 19:39
cubexyzit's still /etc/rc.local on openbsdMay 18 19:39
cubexyztoo many files in /etc ?May 18 19:39
cubexyzso /etc/rc.d is just "directory for run commands"May 18 19:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/dicky_saputra/status/865360731155255296May 18 20:17
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share PrintersMay 18 20:17
TweetTuxMachines @dicky_saputra  from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpahMay 18 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 18 20:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @TizenHelper favourited '#samsung looks pretty committed to #tizen https://t.co/kd2s3Xcszu less...'May 18 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung VP speaks on vision for Tizen, Tizen 4.0 and ongoing development of the platform - Tizen ExpertsMay 18 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865393854890954752May 18 22:30
TweetTuxMachines                 HTC U 11 hands-on: HTC’s true 2017 flaghsipMay 18 22:30
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/osFDkRi2ca (www.androidauthority.com) #hrcMay 18 22:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #androidMay 18 22:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | HTC U 11 hands on review: easy squeez - Android AuthorityMay 18 22:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865394115810271232May 18 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 #Audi and #Volvo will use Android as the operating systemMay 18 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 in upcoming cars https://t.co/lAmbMRfdeqMay 18 22:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com) #android #linuxMay 18 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Audi and Volvo will use Android as the operating system in upcoming cars - The VergeMay 18 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865396563329167363May 18 23:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/zn4eyyS9fwMay 18 23:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 18 23:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 18 23:43
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/EsI09TI.gifMay 19 01:19
MinceRhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/bofh_2017_episode_2/May 19 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Elf of Safety? Orc of Admin. Pleased to meet you • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/qvyrb ]May 19 01:45
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/BY2MUEj.jpgMay 19 01:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Fooros/status/865475844000456704May 19 05:19
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share PrintersMay 19 05:19
TweetTuxMachines @Fooros         from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpahMay 19 05:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 19 05:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices | Tux MachinesMay 19 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Fedora 27 Workstation Linux Could Let You Share Printers from Android Devices https://t.co/K4kt32tpah https://t.co/htgOQ0UZSGMay 19 05:19
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@BasedFaggotFTW @PaulBongiorno @wikileaks What will be in contempt...'May 19 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Watch who #trump is making an #fbi...'May 19 05:24
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange One small victory on the...'May 19 05:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange One small victory on the path to...'May 19 05:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The Met Police (London) has just officially...'May 19 05:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks The Met Police (London) has...'May 19 05:59
*TweetTuxMachines @aberbamx favourited '#elementaryOS 0.4.1 Arrives with New AppCenter, Latest HWE...'May 19 06:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Country best known for invention...'May 19 06:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Country best known for invention of dynamite...'May 19 06:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks With the basis for bail being canned,...'May 19 06:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks With the basis for bail...'May 19 08:28
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The #nsa and Five Eyes agencies still...'May 19 08:38
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks The #nsa and Five Eyes...'May 19 08:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@vfpuk @wikileaks Maybe @labour can sort something out...'May 19 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865578428933652480May 19 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows Intruded by CIA https://t.co/UBITZqBvsWMay 19 10:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 10:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Intruded by CIA | Tux MachinesMay 19 10:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865656294991986688May 19 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III Is Coming to Linux andMay 19 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 macOS on June 8, 2017 https://t.co/uK1dmU9uVEMay 19 15:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #games #gnu #linuxMay 19 15:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III Is Coming to Linux and macOS on June 8, 2017May 19 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/argumento_/status/865656361446592518May 19 16:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III Is Coming to Linux andMay 19 16:24
TweetTuxMachines @argumento_     macOS on June 8, 2017 https://t.co/uK1dmU9uVEMay 19 16:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #games #gnu #linuxMay 19 16:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III Is Coming...'May 19 16:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865669783521419264May 19 16:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/lBBgakmSyDMay 19 16:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 16:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 19 16:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865669790119075840May 19 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Feren OS: A Linux Desktop Game-ChangerMay 19 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4Hx9vpI5lK (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 16:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/mwjwYXCjXMMay 19 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feren OS: A Linux Desktop Game-Changer | Tux MachinesMay 19 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Feren OS: A Linux Desktop Game-Changer https://t.co/4Hx9vpI5lK https://t.co/mwjwYXCjXMMay 19 16:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865670171402174464May 19 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Jono Bacon Asked Google Home ‘Who Founded Linux.’ YouMay 19 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Won’t Believe What Happened Next! https://t.co/WseyytkhzHMay 19 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (fossforce.com)May 19 16:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Jono Bacon Asked Google Home 'Who Founded Linux.' You Won't Believe What Happened Next! | FOSS ForceMay 19 16:48
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/digby56/status/865678151908696068May 19 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digby56: I just remembered that George W. Bush used to call Vladimir Putin "Pooty-poot"May 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865670506879492096May 19 17:29
TweetTuxMachines                 “Feren OS is a polished and well-stocked Linux distroMay 19 17:29
TweetTuxMachines                 that … replacement for Microsoft Windows”May 19 17:29
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/rRem7YFA3Y (www.linuxinsider.com)May 19 17:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxMay 19 17:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Feren OS: A Linux Desktop Game-Changer | Reviews | LinuxInsiderMay 19 17:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865680688892100608May 19 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 #NHSbuntu - a modern, secure, open source, operatingMay 19 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 system being considered by Jeremy Hunt for the #NHSMay 19 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XrBogpMiYG (agnate.co.uk)May 19 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agnate.co.uk | NHSbuntu - a modern, secure, open source, operating system being considered by Jeremy Hunt for the NHS.It seems to have...May 19 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/865694952457555968May 19 18:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Still on holiday, hopelessly trying to keep @tuxmachinesMay 19 18:32
TweetTuxMachines                 up to date (and failing so far, it's way too demandingMay 19 18:32
TweetTuxMachines                 time-wise) https://t.co/WZ0OH4bddR (twitter.com)May 19 18:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Still on holiday, hopelessly trying to keep @tuxmachines up to date (and failing so far, it's way too demanding tim… https://t.co/FGl9oBal46May 19 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Still on holiday, hopelessly trying to keep @tuxmachines up to date (and failing so far, it's way too demanding tim… https://t.co/FGl9oBal46May 19 18:32
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/LrOk4eE.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/LrOk4eE )May 19 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | King of the JunGAH!May 19 18:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/Fq3H9hMSFvMay 19 18:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 19 18:56
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/S2cH8c6.jpg   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/dBbGn )May 19 19:20
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TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with KDEMay 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Plasma 5.9.5 and Mesa 17.1 https://t.co/YtxvVPGb85May 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/7E7aslMWNBMay 19 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with KDE Plasma 5.9.5 and Mesa 17.1 | Tux MachinesMay 19 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with KDE Plasma 5.9.5 and Mesa 17.1 https://t.co/YtxvVPGb85 https://t.co/7E7aslMWNBMay 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865710923599667200May 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Financial News https://t.co/0nKWmhGT0JMay 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Financial News | Tux MachinesMay 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865710924849487872May 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME News https://t.co/KcYtCLuMaq (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME News | Tux MachinesMay 19 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865710926086848512May 19 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 SUSE EOL and Tumbleweed https://t.co/RGlN2VkYVbMay 19 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 19:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE EOL and Tumbleweed | Tux MachinesMay 19 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865718167263301632May 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with #KDEMay 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #Plasma 5.9.5 and #Mesa 17.1 https://t.co/iStcAwiE0fMay 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #mandriva #gnu #linuxMay 19 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with KDE Plasma 5.9.5 and Mesa 17.1May 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865718753882800128May 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #openSUSE Tumbleweed OS Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.11,May 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Gamers Get Mesa 17.0.5 https://t.co/iV3Ksg7e0zMay 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #suse #gnu #linuxMay 19 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Tumbleweed OS Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.11, Gamers Get Mesa 17.0.5May 19 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865718794265665536May 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 openSUSE Leap 42.1 Reached End of Life and Will No LongerMay 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Be Supported by SUSE https://t.co/OWGYF4nZ97May 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #suse #opensuse #gnu #linuxMay 19 20:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Leap 42.1 Reached End of Life and Will No Longer Be Supported by SUSEMay 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865718932618870784May 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 #Shogun 2 On Linux Will Work With Radeon GPUs On MesaMay 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 17.1, NVIDIA 375+ https://t.co/vImwqAxz62May 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) #games #gnu #linuxMay 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines May 19 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shogun 2 On Linux Will Work With Radeon GPUs On Mesa 17.1, NVIDIA 375+ - PhoronixMay 19 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865718999966928896May 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 PCLinuxOS Roll-Up Release: Another Linux installed on myMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 new notebook https://t.co/3PSEY4zMpeMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/N2LdPiKF4rMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines May 19 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Roll-Up Release: Another Linux installed on my new notebook | Tux MachinesMay 19 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: PCLinuxOS Roll-Up Release: Another Linux installed on my new notebook https://t.co/3PSEY4zMpe https://t.co/N2LdPiKF4rMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865719189427732480May 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #PCLinuxOS Roll-Up Release: Another Linux installed on myMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 new notebook https://t.co/KozIibLqa3 (www.zdnet.com)May 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #pclos #gnu #linuxMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines May 19 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PCLinuxOS Roll-Up Release: Another Linux installed on my new notebook | ZDNetMay 19 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865719247493767168May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 “not everyone understands the technology of bitcoin,May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 which extends well beyond Internet-based currency.”May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/n9fZagf9eR (www.linuxinsider.com)May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #BlockchainMay 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines May 19 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intertwining Artificial Intelligence With Blockchain | Tech Law | LinuxInsiderMay 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865727545416720384May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora Leftovers https://t.co/dxw3VAQ89SMay 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines May 19 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 19 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865727546842796032May 19 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Events: QtCon, Akademy, Free and Open Source SoftwareMay 19 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Compliance, Linux Plumbers ConferenceMay 19 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/c0tL7NPYc0 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 19 21:09
TweetTuxMachines May 19 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: QtCon, Akademy, Free and Open Source Software Compliance, Linux Plumbers Conference | Tux MachinesMay 19 21:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with...'May 20 05:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#OpenMandriva Lx 3.02 Distro Is Being Prepped with...'May 20 05:30
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#openSUSE Tumbleweed OS Now Powered by Linux Kernel...'May 20 05:30
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Leap 42.1 Reached End of Life and...'May 20 05:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865865849663389697May 20 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 [Review] Antergos Is More Than Just A Noob’s Arch LinuxMay 20 05:44
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/thMNM6sVFG (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/XmI26a6z6bMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines May 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [Review] Antergos Is More Than Just A Noob’s Arch Linux | Tux MachinesMay 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: [Review] Antergos Is More Than Just A Noob’s Arch Linux https://t.co/thMNM6sVFG https://t.co/XmI26a6z6bMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865865869900918786May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Pi Desktop: This kit turns your Raspberry Pi into a LinuxMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop https://t.co/aIaXX8WYHk (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eCh25YtKWyMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines May 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pi Desktop: This kit turns your Raspberry Pi into a Linux desktop | Tux MachinesMay 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Pi Desktop: This kit turns your Raspberry Pi into a Linux desktop https://t.co/aIaXX8WYHk https://t.co/eCh25YtKWyMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865865872782499840May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux for Security https://t.co/WVRW5WHAZaMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines May 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux for Security | Tux MachinesMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865865874858582018May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung and Tizen https://t.co/rt2VRfGykOMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines May 20 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung and Tizen | Tux MachinesMay 20 05:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865865876846723072May 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices https://t.co/4eFt5wllK5May 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 05:59
TweetTuxMachines May 20 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices | Tux MachinesMay 20 05:59
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange They had the nerve to complain that...'May 20 05:59
liberty_boxMinceR, pingMay 20 06:02
liberty_boxmy machine at home just got cut off, can you log the main channels, 4 of them, for later merging?May 20 06:03
oiaohmhttps://flosmind.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/libreoffice-can-open-xlsx-files-excel-cannot/   I am still finding this a laughMay 20 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flosmind.wordpress.com | LibreOffice can open XLSX files Excel cannot | Florians MindMay 20 06:06
oiaohmthat MS Office 2016 excel can create a XLSX file it then cannot open.May 20 06:06
liberty_boxwowMay 20 06:07
oiaohmlibreoffice import export testing finds some odd things at times.May 20 06:08
oiaohmI understand the current MS Office failing on really old stuff but failing on current really take the cake.May 20 06:09
liberty_boxMinceR: ping, see above plsMay 20 06:11
liberty_boxmy machine either lost power or lost the connectionMay 20 06:11
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange They had the nerve to...'May 20 06:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865874005781127172May 20 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/WgdiqqytznMay 20 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 06:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 20 06:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865888366302117888May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 The #Linux Test Project has been released for May 2017May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/y56q50UDI8 (lwn.net) #kernelMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Linux Test Project has been released for May 2017 [LWN.net]May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889034375016448May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 What Fuchsia could mean for AndroidMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/VmEulFb6Fi (www.techrepublic.com) to me itMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 means we need to promote a #gnu #linux alternative inMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile…May 20 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Fuchsia could mean for Android - TechRepublicMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889101609713664May 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 [Review] #Antergos Is More Than Just A Noob’s Arch LinuxMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/8XSSdXYhlo (itsfoss.com) #gnu #linuxMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | [Review] Antergos Is More Than Just A Noob’s Arch LinuxMay 20 07:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889192261242880May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Pi Desktop: This kit turns your Raspberry Pi into a LinuxMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop https://t.co/0fES5LZWzH (www.zdnet.com) ##raspiMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pi Desktop: This kit turns your Raspberry Pi into a Linux desktop | ZDNetMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889321605136384May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #WannaCrypt makes an easy case for #LinuxMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/QnrJqfwZqm (www.techrepublic.com) #gnuMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 #securityMay 20 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WannaCrypt makes an easy case for Linux - TechRepublicMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889363560865792May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 No threat of #WannaCry attack as GSTN operates on #LinuxMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 : CEO https://t.co/z2IKl7dnrsMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.thehindubusinessline.com) now, that’s a wise TCOMay 20 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com | No threat of WannaCry attack as GSTN operates on Linux: CEO | Business LineMay 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines                 choice.May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865889492376272896May 20 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #Samsung was just #Tizen – homegrown Linux again pitchedMay 20 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 at n00bs https://t.co/KDaRO6YzNH (www.theregister.co.uk)May 20 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 a lot closer to ‘proper’ #gnu #linuxMay 20 07:54
TweetTuxMachines May 20 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Samsung was just Tizen – homegrown Linux again pitched at n00bs • The RegisterMay 20 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865898411601440768May 20 08:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux is just too powerful for Windows 10 S, so MicrosoftMay 20 08:01
TweetTuxMachines                 blocked it https://t.co/3nSeTuyiTa (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 08:01
TweetTuxMachines May 20 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is just too powerful for Windows 10 S, so Microsoft blocked it | Tux MachinesMay 20 08:01
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Independent @wikileaks Australia is still very loyal to...'May 20 08:06
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @Independent @wikileaks Australia is still very...'May 20 08:28
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @KenRoth @wikileaks The #tories here in...'May 20 08:28
liberty_boxMinceR, pingMay 20 08:30
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@KenRoth @wikileaks The #tories here in #uk are...'May 20 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks A lot of Saudi media, science, and...'May 20 08:36
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks A lot of Saudi media,...'May 20 08:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SkyNewsAust @wikileaks Australia feels as though it also...'May 20 08:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @SkyNewsAust @wikileaks Australia feels as though...'May 20 08:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Worse: it also manipulates academia,...'May 20 08:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Worse: it also manipulates academia, e.g. by...'May 20 08:41
*TweetTuxMachines @osvaldo_hp favourited 'No threat of #WannaCry attack as GSTN operates...'May 20 08:52
MinceRliberty_box: pongMay 20 09:10
liberty_boxthanks goodnessMay 20 09:12
liberty_boxMinceR, see context in #techbytes alsoMay 20 09:12
liberty_boxwe lost the connection at home, need someone to just maintain IRC logs for the 4 channelsMay 20 09:12
MinceRi'll gather my logs this weekendMay 20 09:12
MinceRnote that i ran out of space on the VM that runs my client recently, so it remains to be seen if i've lost anyMay 20 09:12
MinceRbut i probably haven'tMay 20 09:13
liberty_boxthanks, it got cut off last night at around 2am UK time, I'm coming back to fix this June 1st or 2ndMay 20 09:13
liberty_boxfor this channel cubelog1 probably picks up the restMay 20 09:13
liberty_boxI'll catch up with URLs you posted here (memes etc.)May 20 09:13
liberty_boxwill figure out how to make up for no RSS fetching at home, maybe will change focus of site soon, less EPO etc. and more FOSS/ethicsMay 20 09:14
liberty_boxhttps://twitter.com/EunuchTrump/status/865918164152061953May 20 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EunuchTrump: @PepeStalone @schestowitz @wikileaks No. We have the relationship with the Saudis. Exactly why wikileaks (Russia) i… https://t.co/TuAlZKgELjMay 20 09:14
liberty_boxLOLMay 20 09:14
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @realDonaldTrump Trump is "OK" with Sessions and...'May 20 09:37
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/RwAJCmq.jpgMay 20 09:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @realDonaldTrump Trump is "OK" with...'May 20 09:40
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The country exports terrorism, but as long...'May 20 09:40
XRevan86MinceR: What is that? Quotes?May 20 09:40
MinceRThe Princess Bride quotes adapted to Star WarsMay 20 09:41
XRevan86I was frozen todayMay 20 09:41
XRevan86Sorry, couldn't keep it to myself :).May 20 09:42
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks The country exports terrorism, but...'May 20 10:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Juice Media ought to do one with...'May 20 10:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Here, at the end of the day,...'May 20 10:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Here, at the end of...'May 20 11:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/865945227629965312May 20 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 #Linux is just too powerful for, so #Microsoft blocked itMay 20 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/619B5oz4ye (www.pcworld.com)May 20 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eYMZaR6ugn (www.theinquirer.net)May 20 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux is just too powerful for Windows 10 S, so Microsoft blocked it | PCWorldMay 20 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DohqYLbj8S (betanews.com)May 20 11:07
TweetTuxMachines May 20 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | Microsoft confirms Linux distros and other cools stuff won't run on Windows 10 SMay 20 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft blocking Linux on Windows 10 SMay 20 11:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @CFLange favourited '#Linux is just too powerful for, so #Microsoft...'May 20 12:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/865970801752686592May 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #openSUSE Tumbleweed OS Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.11,May 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE        Gamers Get Mesa 17.0.5 https://t.co/iV3Ksg7e0zMay 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) #suse #gnu #linuxMay 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines May 20 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | openSUSE Tumbleweed OS Now Powered by Linux Kernel 4.11, Gamers Get Mesa 17.0.5May 20 12:46
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/JjWDNMay 20 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Weird how none of these racists are getting banned from Social Media... - Album on ImgurMay 20 17:21
TweetTuxMachines@kaddourkardio   https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866041768239910913May 20 17:24
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    @schestowitz @tuxmachines We need to go #gnu ,  not onlyMay 20 17:24
TweetTuxMachines @debexpert      LinuxMay 20 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866041975669215233May 20 17:27
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines And this is what took overMay 20 17:27
TweetTuxMachines @debexpert      mobile, not MeeGo/LiMo/Maemo  etc.May 20 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866042546845306882May 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines lets thank alsoMay 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 those microintelligences... that favorited googleMay 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 business bringing to nokia an OS without future andMay 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines                 features..... sheepsMay 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:33
TweetTuxMachines@kaddourkardio   https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/866044069960720384May 20 17:34
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @schestowitz @tuxmachines and Microsoft beforeMay 20 17:34
TweetTuxMachines                 googleMay 20 17:34
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:34
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866044356947570689May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines in fact I wasMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 referring to M$FT mateMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866044604805636096May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines Microsoft is nowMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 one of a growing number of problem, even if MSFT remainsMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 foes number 1May 20 17:35
XRevan86MinceR: I see europeoids on photos.May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:35
XRevan86self-hatred?May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866044649651269633May 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines but now they tryMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 to sell a product called ubuntu on azure . lmao . IMay 20 17:35
MinceRnot all of them areMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 really dislike this companyMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:35
MinceRbut yeahMay 20 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@kaddourkardio   https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/866044709722083330May 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @schestowitz @tuxmachines but you are rightMay 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 speaking about the OS transitionMay 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866044855717429248May 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines I am a formerMay 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 nokian mate... thats allMay 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866044940085714944May 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines With patent tax onMay 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/LinuxMay 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:37
XRevan86Also "white people" is so disgustingly politically correct. Yet even racists use that %).May 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866045110974390273May 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines I was trainerMay 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines                 for operations right on symbian s40 maemo and meegoMay 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866045259440107520May 20 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines yes really aMay 20 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 worm attitudeMay 20 17:39
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:39
XRevan86> kill off all the white people theyre a plague I swear to godMay 20 17:39
XRevan86That's factually not true.May 20 17:39
MinceRindeedMay 20 17:39
XRevan86This person just lost godpoints for swearing a non-truth.May 20 17:39
MinceRhumans are a plague, regardless of raceMay 20 17:39
TweetTuxMachines@kaddourkardio   https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/866045611979804672May 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @schestowitz @tuxmachines so you know maemoMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 very well, i hope the recent project of unifyingMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 sailfish/mer/ubuntumobile efforts will (twitter.com) payMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 soonMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:40
XRevan86> white people can chokeMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866045816905105414May 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines Night brothers.May 20 17:40
XRevan86Meanwhile, this is legit.May 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Be free and open! BE #GNU #LinuxMay 20 17:40
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:40
XRevan86White people do can choke.May 20 17:40
XRevan86I did choke myself, true story.May 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866045936429973504May 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines "burningMay 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 platforms" -Elop, x_xMay 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866046101912264704May 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines I am notMay 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 informed abt a merge... I know also Sailfish very well.May 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Was invited twce by Jolla at MWCMay 20 17:41
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:41
XRevan86What other truths can I find…May 20 17:41
XRevan86> white lives do not matterMay 20 17:41
XRevan86I think there was a Carlin's quote about thatMay 20 17:41
XRevan86https://youtu.be/lFSiX5dsJqc somewhere hereMay 20 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin - Sanctity Of Life - Live Stand Up Comedy - YouTubeMay 20 17:43
MinceRNoLivesMatterMay 20 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866046126448812032May 20 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines I think you mustMay 20 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 read https://t.co/ii9OOEKW2F (techrights.org)May 20 17:43
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - TechrightsMay 20 17:43
XRevan86Lives mattering is a social constructMay 20 17:44
XRevan86> can white people just die pleaseMay 20 17:44
XRevan86Indeed, all in due time.May 20 17:44
MinceRand you can see how much value humans generally place on livesMay 20 17:45
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866046656562814977May 20 17:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines ah thx my faveMay 20 17:45
TweetTuxMachines                 page!May 20 17:45
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:45
XRevan86MinceR: On depends on whether they all really mean it.May 20 17:45
XRevan86Saying "we want you to die" and get up and strangle somebody – two different things.May 20 17:46
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866047201008640000May 20 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines look nemoMay 20 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile/ mer on my n900 mates https://t.co/H2FmWJdbaOMay 20 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.youtube.com)May 20 17:47
XRevan86It's also much easier to "hate" a faceless group than specific people.May 20 17:47
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nemo mobile running on Nokia N900 - YouTubeMay 20 17:47
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @debexpert: '@schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines Night brothers. Be free and...'May 20 17:47
MinceRwell, if they don't want themselves and all their loved ones to die in squalor, they're really doing it wrongMay 20 17:47
XRevan86It's like:May 20 17:48
XRevan86- Oh boy, I hate liberals so much.May 20 17:48
XRevan86- What about this specific people who's a liberal?May 20 17:48
XRevan86- I don't know him…May 20 17:48
XRevan86s/people/person/May 20 17:48
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866047680065093632May 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines We've since movedMay 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 backwards.... from having proper GNU/Linux (e.g. Debian)May 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 on mobile stuffMay 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866048175760707584May 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines yes bro ... andMay 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 on the same n900I have debian lenny lxde.... spot theMay 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 other lmaooooo lumiaMay 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines May 20 17:52
cubexyzXRevan86, a lot of human behaviour is irrationalMay 20 17:58
XRevan86cubexyz: Definitely :).May 20 17:59
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866048899420753921May 20 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 @kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines u may spot aMay 20 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 nokia n8 too used to record the videoMay 20 18:01
TweetTuxMachines May 20 18:01
cubexyzstrictly speaking there are no white peopleMay 20 18:02
cubexyzunless you'May 20 18:02
cubexyzunless you're talking about albinosMay 20 18:02
cubexyzeveryone has some skin pigmentMay 20 18:02
cubexyzthe term is merely a broad generalizationMay 20 18:03
XRevan86cubexyz: Additionally, asians have mostly (relatively) white skin colour.May 20 18:03
cubexyzsureMay 20 18:04
cubexyze.g. northern japaneseMay 20 18:04
XRevan86So it's not very racially descriptive either.May 20 18:04
MinceRracists never let facts get in their wayMay 20 18:04
XRevan86Also it's not hard to find an arab (europeoid) with darker skin than some africans (negroid) have.May 20 18:05
XRevan86so not two but three major races have somewhat interchangable skin colourMay 20 18:06
cubexyzpigment is merely protection against the sunMay 20 18:06
cubexyza silly thing to discriminate againstMay 20 18:06
XRevan86The sunny the area the more pigment is genetically set as the default.May 20 18:07
XRevan86* The sunnierMay 20 18:07
XRevan86One could say, those who are white are so because they can afford to be white :)May 20 18:10
cubexyzI always thought it was a bit of an advantage to live in a colder countryMay 20 18:10
XRevan86a regression that does not affect the survival rates (in the areas)May 20 18:10
cubexyznot in every way of courseMay 20 18:10
cubexyzbut you usually have better technology and less mosquitoes :)May 20 18:11
cubexyzwhy humans settled in the arctic is harder to understandMay 20 18:12
XRevan86cubexyz: arctic is awesome, it has:May 20 18:12
XRevan86* oilMay 20 18:12
XRevan86and other stuffMay 20 18:12
XRevan86also bearsMay 20 18:12
cubexyzI don't think the ingenuous peoples were digging up the oil in greenland, alaska or northern canadaMay 20 18:13
cubexyzmaybe they are now? not sureMay 20 18:13
XRevan86cubexyz: Also, Australia is pretty hot, yet it has technology :)May 20 18:14
XRevan86or South AfricaMay 20 18:14
cubexyzack, indigenous I meanMay 20 18:14
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah, those. I guess they just had to move there for some reason.May 20 18:15
XRevan86and then settledMay 20 18:15
cubexyzXRevan86, that's probably due to victoria era "transportation"May 20 18:15
XRevan86cubexyz: Huh?May 20 18:15
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/aMtRcJM.pngMay 20 18:15
cubexyzsending all the bad folks to australia as punishmentMay 20 18:15
cubexyzindigenous australians didn't really have a lot of technologyMay 20 18:16
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, if we're talking about areas where technology risen instead of being picked up…May 20 18:16
XRevan86then… the Arab world, Greece :)May 20 18:17
XRevan86Egypt, I guessMay 20 18:17
XRevan86Pretty warm places.May 20 18:17
cubexyzyeah arabic numerals were pretty useful :)May 20 18:17
MinceRhindu-arabic :>May 20 18:17
XRevan86just wanted to say %)May 20 18:17
cubexyzmuch better than roman numerals :)May 20 18:17
MinceRlooks like the fundies will kill off science and technologyMay 20 18:17
XRevan86cubexyz: Arabs did a lot of stuff but that thing they are remembered for wasn't exactly…May 20 18:18
XRevan86theirsMay 20 18:18
cubexyzalgorithm is an arabic wordMay 20 18:18
cubexyzyou have to wonder why things changed so muchMay 20 18:18
*XRevan86 doesn't know Arab history that well.May 20 18:18
MinceRand then they went full retardMay 20 18:19
XRevan86Civilisations rise and fall I guess.May 20 18:19
MinceRi think the reason is called islamMay 20 18:19
XRevan86For some other civilisation the reason would be different.May 20 18:19
XRevan86The good thing about the modern civilisation is that it's far more widespread and hence robust.May 20 18:19
cubexyzthis should be a period of enlightenment actuallyMay 20 18:20
XRevan86What we are having now?May 20 18:20
cubexyzmillions of books scanned by google...May 20 18:20
MinceRit's still restricted to a single planetMay 20 18:20
MinceRall too easy to self-exterminateMay 20 18:20
MinceRinstead we get the New Dark AgeMay 20 18:20
XRevan86MinceR: Relatively to previous civilisations that is.May 20 18:20
cubexyzXRevan86, look at the proliferation of cyanobacteria and red tide in the waterMay 20 18:21
XRevan86Ah, I forgot about a region… America.May 20 18:21
cubexyzthat is today's problemMay 20 18:21
XRevan86It had cool stuff too and also pretty warm.May 20 18:21
cubexyznew dark age is a bit harshMay 20 18:22
cubexyzbut we'll see I guessMay 20 18:22
XRevan86It would be hard to have a dark age across the whole globe %)May 20 18:22
XRevan86The medieval dark ages were limited to the Western Europe. It's their thing.May 20 18:23
cubexyzany economic or cultural stagnationMay 20 18:24
cubexyzthe greeks had their own dark ages from 1100 BC to 750 BC May 20 18:24
cubexyzthere's even the so called "digital dark age"May 20 18:25
cubexyzlost of digital documentsMay 20 18:25
cubexyzs/lost/loss/May 20 18:25
XRevan86"Lost" of digital documents :DMay 20 18:25
XRevan86We do have a lot of knowledge on paper as well too though.May 20 18:29
XRevan86So… doubtfulMay 20 18:29
XRevan86very unpleasant, catastrophic even, but not dark ageyMay 20 18:30
XRevan86if all digital is to be suddenly destroyedMay 20 18:30
cubexyzthere was some discussion of a civilization collapseMay 20 18:30
XRevan86I think that's what "digital dark age" is aboutMay 20 18:30
cubexyzdue to nuclear warMay 20 18:31
MinceR21 002244 < XRevan86> It would be hard to have a dark age across the whole globe %)May 20 18:31
MinceRnot for a lack of tryingMay 20 18:31
cubexyzlook at the Mayan Civilization as an exampleMay 20 18:32
MinceRthe meme plagues known as "christianity" and "islam" have spread far and wideMay 20 18:32
cubexyzthe fall of the roman empire...May 20 18:32
cubexyznot nuclear of course, but still a collapse of societyMay 20 18:32
XRevan86cubexyz: Which fall of the Roman Empire?May 20 18:32
XRevan86Byzantium counts, y'know %)May 20 18:33
cubexyzaround 300 to 400 ADMay 20 18:33
cubexyzok western roman empire... around italyMay 20 18:34
cubexyzByzantium was earlier yes?May 20 18:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Yet the whole other part of the Empire including the capital survived that.May 20 18:34
XRevan86cubexyz: "Byzantium" is the ancient name of the city later to be called ConstantinopleMay 20 18:35
cubexyzI guess Byzantium was eastern romanMay 20 18:35
XRevan86cubexyz: yesMay 20 18:35
XRevan86and it lived to the XV century ACMay 20 18:35
cubexyzhow do they get roman from that though?May 20 18:35
cubexyzByzantium was greekMay 20 18:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Emperor Constantine of the Roman Empire moved the capital thereMay 20 18:36
cubexyzoh I seeMay 20 18:36
XRevan86When Rome fell, it wasn't the capital of the Roman Empire.May 20 18:36
XRevan86But most people don't like thinking of Byzantium as the Roman Empire (even though it legally was) because it didn't contain Rome and the Latin language's influence significantly decreased.May 20 18:38
XRevan86Greek was the language of the elites before the split too but whatever, let's not think about that.May 20 18:39
cubexyzlearning greek used to be importantMay 20 18:39
cubexyzprobably not now thoughMay 20 18:40
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/TMnv3AV.gifMay 20 18:40
XRevan86Later in Medieval Europe Latin became the language of the elites.May 20 18:40
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866054205630537729May 20 18:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    @debexpert @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines We've since movedMay 20 18:41
TweetTuxMachines @debexpert      backwards.... from having proper GNU/Linux (e.g. Debian)May 20 18:41
TweetTuxMachines                 on mobile stuffMay 20 18:41
TweetTuxMachines May 20 18:41
XRevan86Apparently Barbarians liked their Latin more than Romans did :)May 20 18:41
XRevan86And these days Latin + derivatives is definitely a more popular set of languages than Hellenic languages.May 20 18:42
XRevan86And not only did The Roman Empire lived past the Barbarian invasion but also influenced others. So it's not like it just sitted there and did nothing.May 20 18:45
XRevan86s/sitted/sat/May 20 18:45
XRevan86It influenced Turks (kind of the same way it did with Barbarians) who finished the Empire, and… Russians.May 20 18:46
cubexyzit's interesting that almost everyone uses arabic numerals (ok some prefer to say hindu numerals)May 20 18:47
XRevan86cubexyz: Having a universal standard is pretty convinient.May 20 18:47
XRevan86Even those who didn't use them, use them now. Like Japanese.May 20 18:47
cubexyzbetter than / // /// //// etc :)May 20 18:48
XRevan86Russia also had a numerical system, based on the alphabet.May 20 18:49
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_numeralsMay 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cyrillic numerals - WikipediaMay 20 18:49
MinceRapparently hebrew and greek had such a system tooMay 20 18:49
MinceRmaybe it was adapted with the rest of the writing systemMay 20 18:50
cubexyzyes I think there was even some old clocks with cyrillic numerals yes?May 20 18:50
XRevan86cubexyz: There's a photo of such a clock in the article, that means yes :)May 20 18:51
MinceRthat wiki page has at least one such clockMay 20 18:51
cubexyzand a coin :)May 20 18:51
cubexyzwow, fancy May 20 18:52
cubexyzthere's a tiny N above the other symbolsMay 20 18:52
XRevan86"Table of values" shows why that system also sucks :)May 20 18:52
cubexyza quasi-decimal system hmmmMay 20 18:53
MinceRit's a titloMay 20 18:53
MinceRspecifies that it's a numberMay 20 18:53
XRevan86The Hindu-Arabic numerals only need 10 symbols and don't care what number you want to write.May 20 18:53
cubexyzah,  I figured that could be it May 20 18:53
cubexyzanother diacritic symbolMay 20 18:54
XRevan86An N? Where?May 20 18:55
MinceRon the clock faceMay 20 18:55
XRevan86ah, yesMay 20 18:56
MinceRit shouldn't really look that much like an И, thoughMay 20 18:56
MinceRor N, whateverMay 20 18:56
XRevan86MinceR: Well, it's an "N"May 20 18:56
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TitloMay 20 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Titlo - WikipediaMay 20 18:56
MinceRwell, that article contradicts itselfMay 20 18:57
MinceRtext says it should be a "falling slanted line", then shows a drawing with that part horizontalMay 20 18:57
cubexyzand remember what a mess computers were before ASCIIMay 20 18:57
cubexyznot to mention the whole 18-bit computer thingMay 20 18:58
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8kU8aCVG0YMay 20 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iron Moon: Iron Man Meets Sailor Moon - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qwaws ]May 20 18:59
cubexyz6-bit character setsMay 20 19:00
XRevan86MinceR: Maybe it's just convinient to write it like "N"…May 20 19:00
cubexyz64 characters is all you need :)May 20 19:01
XRevan86http://german242.com/articles/suzdal/suzdal04.jpg another clockMay 20 19:01
XRevan86http://german242.com/articles/suzdal/suzdal_clock.htm I'll give the whole articleMay 20 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-german242.com | ????? ??? ? ???? [ http://ur1.ca/qwaxj ]May 20 19:03
XRevan86it has lots of illustrationsMay 20 19:03
cubexyz64 characters plus shift out, shift in May 20 19:03
XRevan86> ????? ??? ? ????May 20 19:03
XRevan86Who needs Unicode, amarait?May 20 19:03
cubexyzhaMay 20 19:03
XRevan86> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251">May 20 19:04
XRevan86CP1251, nice.May 20 19:04
XRevan86I expected KOI8-R, oh well.May 20 19:04
cubexyzI see the N's May 20 19:04
cubexyznot letters, got it :)May 20 19:04
cubexyzIs it 12 o'clock or L o'clock? May 20 19:05
XRevan86ВІ o'clockMay 20 19:06
XRevan86vi o'clock :)May 20 19:07
XRevan86There's always vi o'clock somewhereMay 20 19:07
XRevan86:q!May 20 19:07
cubexyzsome of my friends don't like viMay 20 19:09
XRevan86Fun fact: some redundant Greek letters were kept in the Russian Cyrillic alphabet for a long while just for the numerals.May 20 19:09
MinceRindeedMay 20 19:09
MinceRalso in the greek alphabetMay 20 19:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866061358801969152May 20 19:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/I6Vw3K64U6May 20 19:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:09
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:09
XRevan86MinceR: Huh, that makes sense :)May 20 19:10
cubexyzwhat letters are redundant?May 20 19:10
XRevan86let's see…May 20 19:11
MinceRgreek has digammaMay 20 19:11
XRevan86Ѕ, Ѳ, ѮMay 20 19:11
MinceRand koppa and sampiMay 20 19:11
XRevan86Ѱ, ѠMay 20 19:11
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866068383535480832May 20 19:11
TweetTuxMachines                 OK, so wife woke up and is definitely eager to followMay 20 19:11
TweetTuxMachines                 that idea of her posting the #gnu #linux things inMay 20 19:11
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachines while I do other stuffMay 20 19:11
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:11
XRevan86(well, Ѳ is strictly speaking not redundant but in Cyrillic it meant the "f" sound, not "th")May 20 19:12
XRevan86There's no "th" in Slavic languages.May 20 19:12
cubexyzwe use theta in APL in some versionsMay 20 19:12
XRevan86cubexyz: The programming language?May 20 19:12
cubexyzyesMay 20 19:12
XRevan86Never heard of it…May 20 19:13
TweetTuxMachines@SleepyPenguin1  https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/866068921052540929May 20 19:13
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @tuxmachines Cor..... I didn't know you hadMay 20 19:13
TweetTuxMachines                 a robot for that kind of thing as well ;)May 20 19:13
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:13
cubexyzhttp://apl.maxhost.orgMay 20 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apl.maxhost.org | Info on Various APL ImplementationsMay 20 19:13
XRevan86theta is used in science stuff, so it makes senseMay 20 19:14
MinceRgreek theta, not russian theta :>May 20 19:14
MinceRs/russian/cyrillic/May 20 19:14
cubexyzI saved APL 1975 from extinction May 20 19:14
XRevan86MinceR: no wa~May 20 19:15
MinceR:)May 20 19:15
XRevan86MinceR: Next thing you'll say when people write "Г" in science they don't mean the Cyrillic "Г"May 20 19:16
cubexyzhaven't had the time to delve into the old unix stuff of lateMay 20 19:16
XRevan86and when "E" they don't mean the Cyrillic "EMay 20 19:16
cubexyzwell I don't :)May 20 19:17
XRevan86cubexyz: You don't say that? :)May 20 19:17
MinceRXRevan86: :)May 20 19:18
cubexyzI sometimes use epsilon, theta, iota, gamma and pi of courseMay 20 19:18
cubexyzand rhoMay 20 19:18
cubexyzand deltaMay 20 19:18
cubexyzall from APL thoughMay 20 19:19
XRevan86cubexyz: Are you sure you don't accidentally use Е, Ѳ, I, Г, П and Р? :PMay 20 19:19
MinceRmore crazy stuff >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_%28Cyrillic%29#Computing_codesMay 20 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | O (Cyrillic) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qwb0o ]May 20 19:19
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cubexyzcapital E and capital P sureMay 20 19:20
XRevan86and ДMay 20 19:20
XRevan86> CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ROUND OMEGAMay 20 19:20
XRevan86MinceR: I didn't know it's omega %)May 20 19:21
XRevan86always thought it's called "on"May 20 19:21
cubexyzif I had a proper APL keyboard I would type the symbol rather than the wordMay 20 19:21
MinceR:)May 20 19:21
cubexyzbut those things are expensiveMay 20 19:21
MinceRthe eyed versions are crazierMay 20 19:21
XRevan86May 20 19:22
XRevan86If I'd need a symbol for trypophobia, that would be the one.May 20 19:22
MinceR:>May 20 19:22
MinceRthe only mentions of "omega" i see there are about a variant versionMay 20 19:22
MinceRnot O itselfMay 20 19:22
MinceRѺMay 20 19:23
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad_On found an article about itMay 20 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Broad On - WikipediaMay 20 19:23
XRevan86MinceR: My font shows this broad "on" more condensed than the non-broad one %)May 20 19:26
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866069262225428480May 20 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 @SleepyPenguin1 @tuxmachines Not a robot, it was me doingMay 20 19:26
TweetTuxMachines                 itMay 20 19:26
MinceR:)May 20 19:26
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:26
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866072690829996032May 20 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines isn't beautifulMay 20 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 guys? >> #SailfishOS https://t.co/hLVASS4kx2May 20 19:29
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@debexpert: @schestowitz @kaddourkardio @tuxmachines isn't beautiful guys? >> #SailfishOS https://t.co/hLVASS4kx2May 20 19:29
MinceRthat's right: it isn't.May 20 19:30
MinceRand it's less free than androidMay 20 19:30
MinceRand it has systemd and kdbusMay 20 19:30
XRevan86MinceR: So, you really believe Android is more free than systemd?May 20 19:32
XRevan86How contributor friendly is Android? How open is its development?May 20 19:32
cubexyzdid android always use systemd?May 20 19:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Never did, never will.May 20 19:33
cubexyzok, got confused there, sorry :)May 20 19:33
MinceRyesMay 20 19:34
MinceRafaik android is not obfuscatedMay 20 19:34
XRevan86How Android is being developed: Google makes stuff under closed-doors, then after they are done, releases the code.May 20 19:34
XRevan86MinceR: Android is the most obfuscated thing.May 20 19:35
MinceRhow Lendows is being developed: either red hat bigwigs or poettering himself makes up some unworkable bullshit behind closed doors, and then forces the code on everyone.May 20 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: "behind closed doors" means that you don't get to see the VCS.May 20 19:36
XRevan86Google just throws a tarball at you.May 20 19:37
XRevan86a very giant tarballMay 20 19:37
MinceRwhat are these, then? >> https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/q/status:openMay 20 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-android-review.googlesource.com | Gerrit Code ReviewMay 20 19:38
oiaohmMinceR:  answer these question what year did systemd start development with a open repository and what year did distributions start using it.May 20 19:38
MinceRoh no, i woke the red hat marketroidMay 20 19:39
cubexyzeasy, whatever year fedora 16 came outMay 20 19:39
oiaohmcubexyz: that is for when distribution started using it.   That not when repostory appeared.May 20 19:39
MinceRfedora 15 already came with cancerdMay 20 19:39
oiaohmMinceR: before that.May 20 19:40
cubexyzoh yeah could have been 15May 20 19:40
oiaohmMinceR: the repositry was open 12 months before a fedora contained it.May 20 19:40
cubexyzmay 2011 thenMay 20 19:40
MinceRoiaohm: and then it went on for years without becoming stableMay 20 19:40
XRevan86MinceR: Oh, not a tarball thenMay 20 19:41
MinceRbut that's fineMay 20 19:41
MinceRwho needs workable code when you already have hot air?May 20 19:41
oiaohmMinceR: the developed been closed doors claim does not hold up on systemd.May 20 19:41
oiaohmMinceR: quality issues do.May 20 19:41
XRevan86the developing stuff is still not there thoughMay 20 19:41
MinceRoiaohm: oh, whom did poettering consult when coming up with all that shit?May 20 19:41
MinceR"the systemd cabal" doesn't exactly call to mind a particularly community-oriented processMay 20 19:42
MinceRi certainly don't remember being asked whether i wanted the distro i relied on being shat all over and gradually turned into a windows cloneMay 20 19:42
oiaohmMinceR: also that gets intersting when you look at the first 5 developers before anyone was using systemd.May 20 19:42
MinceRbut here we areMay 20 19:42
XRevan86So, if I want to contribute to Android…May 20 19:42
oiaohmMinceR: Poettering was not the only developer and the developer were not all redhat.May 20 19:43
MinceRXRevan86: iirc repo has some mechanism to submit your code for code reviewMay 20 19:43
MinceRand if it passes that, it gets integratedMay 20 19:43
XRevan86MinceR: The current Android is just not there.May 20 19:43
MinceRbut i don't know how open they are to external contributionsMay 20 19:43
XRevan86The code is outdated.May 20 19:43
XRevan86What am I gonna do? Contribute to Kitkat and then tell everybody how helpful I was for Android?May 20 19:44
MinceRXRevan86: well, at least google isn't afraid of putting actual comments in their codeMay 20 19:44
*XRevan86 now looks at systemdMay 20 19:45
*XRevan86 sees comments.May 20 19:46
oiaohmMinceR: systemd repo opens 2010 the first fedora with it in repository is fedora 14  in 2011.   In that first 12 months you already have developers from debian and suse adding stuff.   Mostly because they could due to where they work sign Ubuntu CLA and add stuff to upstart.May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@debexpert       https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/866073357669847040May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 .@kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines ;)))))))May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 command line man! Those are phones for us :D #SailfishOSMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/wtFZGTsJ8aMay 20 19:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@debexpert: .@kaddourkardio @schestowitz @tuxmachines ;))))))) command line man! Those are phones for us :D #SailfishOS https://t.co/wtFZGTsJ8aMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077839937765377May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows Security Cannot be Blamed on "XP"May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/20H9Ja5GNL (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Security Cannot be Blamed on "XP" | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077841405779968May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS Leftovers https://t.co/CfTKDYxCwIMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077842521464832May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Interviews https://t.co/2tq45f3zapMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Interviews | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077843586899968May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE and GNOME News https://t.co/IlCAXN6vkoMay 20 19:47
oiaohmMinceR:  opps could not sign Ubuntu CLA to add stuff to upstart.May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines May 20 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and GNOME News | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077844811636736May 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Gaming News https://t.co/gna2pi2RaZ (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:47
MinceRadding stuff won't save upstart either, it's crapMay 20 19:48
MinceRjust not quite as crap as systemdMay 20 19:48
MinceRsure, it abuses signals and pthreads mindlesslyMay 20 19:48
MinceRbut at least it has a scopeMay 20 19:48
XRevan86a scope?May 20 19:48
oiaohmMinceR: there was a patch done for upstart that was refused to switch it to cgroups.May 20 19:49
MinceRXRevan86: a clearly defined purposeMay 20 19:49
oiaohmMinceR: more open developmenton upstart then systemd would have never existed.May 20 19:49
MinceRoiaohm: unsurprising, considering that cgroups aren't done yetMay 20 19:49
XRevan86MinceR: To boot Ubuntu?May 20 19:49
MinceRXRevan86: manage services and reap zombiesMay 20 19:50
MinceRpresumably also boot and shutdownMay 20 19:50
XRevan86and show fsck progress in plymouthMay 20 19:50
MinceRisn't that plymouth's job?May 20 19:50
XRevan86MinceR: Upstart did that somehowMay 20 19:51
XRevan86and required plymouth as a resultMay 20 19:51
XRevan86I was very impressed to see Ubuntu Server with plymouthMay 20 19:51
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MinceRlolMay 20 19:51
XRevan86(there was no way to get rid of it)May 20 19:51
MinceRwell, these lamers raised on windows probably shit their pants in fear if they see a text mode consoleMay 20 19:52
oiaohmMinceR: upstart is crap in different ways to systemd.May 20 19:52
cubexyzI should point out that we don't really have text mode these daysMay 20 19:52
cubexyzeven the console uses a graphics modeMay 20 19:53
cubexyzyou'd need a serial terminal for true text modeMay 20 19:53
XRevan86MinceR: Upstart just can't live without Plymouth.May 20 19:53
MinceRoiaohm: yeahMay 20 19:54
oiaohmMinceR: also systemd collection of project into its own tells a scary story.   Of projects with only 1 maintain and no time to process CVE bugs.May 20 19:54
MinceRfailing at its job due to using signals and ptrace for something that is not their purposeMay 20 19:54
MinceRinstead of failing at its job due to using cgroups and trying to do everything before they get even that rightMay 20 19:54
XRevan86MinceR: Upstart also has an integration with dconf. Nifty.May 20 19:54
MinceRoiaohm: ooh, more excusesMay 20 19:54
MinceRoiaohm: can you show me where i asked for excuses?May 20 19:54
MinceRooh, dconfMay 20 19:55
oiaohmMinceR: no that is not an excuseMay 20 19:55
oiaohmMinceR: how many open CVE were in udev before it merged into systemd?May 20 19:55
oiaohmMinceR: Open of more than 2 years.May 20 19:55
oiaohmMinceR: 12 in fact.  This becomes a very big scary story.May 20 19:56
MinceRoiaohm: talk to me about CVEs when cancerd doesn't go into "stable" distro releases with null pointer dereferences all over itMay 20 19:56
oiaohmSomething had to change in the way a lot of these projects were maintained.May 20 19:56
MinceRobviously, the solution was to merge them into the most hostile project in historyMay 20 19:56
MinceRwhich is managed under the CADT modelMay 20 19:57
MinceRwhich is just the thing you need for securityMay 20 19:57
oiaohmBy merging they got a bigger security team with more maitainers approved to-do the stuff.May 20 19:57
MinceRkeeping bugs in your bug tracker for years, then mass deleting them because you rewrote the whole thing makes stuff oh so secureMay 20 19:57
oiaohmAnd the fix rate on CVE has reduced to under 3 months.May 20 19:57
MinceRwhat sort of security team do they have?May 20 19:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866077846220845056May 20 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/lUZTLQqvWDMay 20 19:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 20 19:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 20 19:57
MinceRwhat sort of "security team" approves the sort of messy shit that is systemd?May 20 19:58
oiaohmMinceR: general bugs I wish systemd had the same fix speed.May 20 19:58
MinceRmaybe it would, if it had a scopeMay 20 19:58
MinceRand they focused on making service management work instead of reimplementing the whole userspaceMay 20 19:58
cubexyzI made more progress trying to compile apl.75 for Unix v5May 20 19:59
cubexyzsometimes I get too tired to work on it :-/May 20 19:59
oiaohmMinceR: most of the merges into systemd happened because they were worried about secure service management found faults reported then worked out the maintainer did not have the time or the resources to fix them.May 20 20:00
MinceRapparently they don't have the time or the resources to do everything they want inside systemd eitherMay 20 20:01
cubexyznone of us are really systemd people though yes?May 20 20:01
MinceRoiaohm seems to beMay 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/866080516776144898May 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 21/5/2017: Linux 3.18.53, Tizen 4.0May 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/0HhONtvUv1 (techrights.org)May 20 20:01
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MinceRlately all of his activity is shilling systemdMay 20 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/5/2017: Linux 3.18.53, Tizen 4.0 | TechrightsMay 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866081432585752582May 20 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Still thinking hard how to manage news postings aboutMay 20 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnu #linuxMay 20 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Maybe something along the lines of RTing @tuxmachines onMay 20 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 it all?May 20 20:02
TweetTuxMachines May 20 20:02
oiaohmMinceR: systemd has merged a huge stack of under resourced projects.    This creates 1 project under resourced.May 20 20:02
MinceRand conveniently creates tight coupling between what used to be independent projectsMay 20 20:02
MinceRthe better to force that NSA backdoor on youMay 20 20:03
MinceRapparently having an NSA backdoor is now "security"May 20 20:03
oiaohmMinceR: funny part is most of the projects that were merged in systemd will still build as inpendent parts.May 20 20:03
MinceRthey just won't run?May 20 20:03
MinceRwhat a reliefMay 20 20:03
cubexyzcan't believe distrowatch has reactos higher than slackwareMay 20 20:03
oiaohmMinceR: run perfectly.May 20 20:03
MinceRit's not like i ever wanted my software to runMay 20 20:03
MinceRwhat's reactos doing on distrowatch?May 20 20:04
oiaohmMinceR: evdev that is a fork off of udev in system all they did was strip away all the other systemd parts and set make file to make udev.May 20 20:04
MinceRwell, i guess if systemd/Linux fits there then so does reactosMay 20 20:04
oiaohmMinceR: no source modifications.May 20 20:04
XRevan86Why there's no Windows on distrowatch?May 20 20:04
MinceRoiaohm: no, that's eudevMay 20 20:04
MinceRoiaohm: and they actually had to do work on itMay 20 20:04
cubexyzreactos is still a distro I guessMay 20 20:04
MinceRoiaohm: evdev is an entirely other piece of softwareMay 20 20:04
MinceRreactos is a windows nt reimplementationMay 20 20:04
XRevan86A distro of Wine? :)May 20 20:04
MinceRa more honest one, at thatMay 20 20:05
*TweetTuxMachines @calcaware retweeted @schestowitz: 'Still thinking hard how to manage news postings...'May 20 20:05
MinceRit's a somewhat terrifying idea that to some people "security" means a constantly churning massive hairball of baroque softwareMay 20 20:07
MinceRthey probably don't even know what "hardening" or "separation of concerns" areMay 20 20:07
cubexyzwell "make every program a filter" certainly seem to have went out the window :)May 20 20:11
MinceRfunny oiaohm should pick udev to try and prove that systemd components are independent of systemdMay 20 20:11
MinceRhttps://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htmlMay 20 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop the udev firmware loaderMay 20 20:11
MinceR>we willMay 20 20:12
MinceRnot support non-systemd systems with udev anymore starting at thatMay 20 20:12
MinceRpoint. Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call.May 20 20:12
MinceR"run perfectly", he saysMay 20 20:12
MinceRpoppycock.May 20 20:12
cubexyzI still use pre-udev systemsMay 20 20:16
cubexyznot sure if there's any modern distro that does thoughMay 20 20:16
MinceRi still have a version of udev poettering didn't shit all overMay 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/TimberGhost7/status/866082403261050880May 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Still thinking hard how to manage news postings aboutMay 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines @TimberGhost7   #gnu #linuxMay 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Maybe something along the lines of RTing @tuxmachines onMay 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 it all?May 20 20:17
TweetTuxMachines May 20 20:17
cubexyzdidn't they merge udev with systemd? May 20 20:18
cubexyzkind of forced on everybodyMay 20 20:18
cubexyzmaybe that's wrong May 20 20:20
MinceRthey moved udev into the systemd project, claiming that it will still support usage without systemdMay 20 20:20
MinceRhttp://archive.is/pxRdYMay 20 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.is | The future of the udev source treeMay 20 20:20
MinceRthey waited a little more than 2 years to admit that this was a lieMay 20 20:20
MinceRbut apparently some people still blindly trust poettering and his cultMay 20 20:20
cubexyzI think you could build a linux without udev thoughMay 20 20:21
cubexyzif you really wanted toMay 20 20:21
MinceRi think i could also switch to netbsd or openbsd or dragonflybsdMay 20 20:21
cubexyzsure, I'm on openbsd right nowMay 20 20:21
cubexyzwith LFS you could build whatever you want I thinkMay 20 20:24
oiaohmMinceR: yet 3 years latter patches are going into systemd for building udev independently May 20 20:25
oiaohmMinceR: problem is your statements don't line up to the commit history.May 20 20:25
cubexyzBLFS book shows a way to build all devices as staticMay 20 20:26
cubexyzof course with the BSDs you avoid systemd and udevMay 20 20:26
MinceRwith at least one of them, you get launchd insteadMay 20 20:26
MinceRwhich is almost as cancerousMay 20 20:26
cubexyzif I write anything I test on openbsd as well as linuxMay 20 20:26
MinceRi wonder how will redhat/microsoft try to kill off the BSD-sMay 20 20:27
MinceRmaybe just close the last door in uefi and make them unbootable on uefi appliancesMay 20 20:27
oiaohmMinceR: redhat does not have to.   Look what happen to freebsd with playstation 3May 20 20:27
oiaohmMinceR: lot of parties will use BSD and then submit absolutely nothing back.May 20 20:28
MinceRoiaohm: that has so far failed to kill bsdMay 20 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/866088156776484864May 20 20:28
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 21/5/2017: Linux 3.18.53, Tizen 4.0May 20 20:28
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/0HhONtvUv1 (techrights.org)May 20 20:28
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oiaohmMinceR: it has meant that BSD is always suffering from poorer hardware support.May 20 20:28
MinceRour hardware is turning to shit anywayMay 20 20:29
cubexyzthe classic computing folks are still using PDP-11s so of course BSD is going to survive May 20 20:29
MinceRwe have uefi, intel boot guard, intel me, amd pspMay 20 20:29
cubexyzyou could run openbsd on chromebook evenMay 20 20:30
oiaohmTo be truthful I like arm psp where it a arm chip and you can decomplier what in heck it coded todo.May 20 20:30
oiaohmamd psp not arm psp.May 20 20:30
MinceRmaybe they'll put some sort of DRM in drivers so even if you had full specs to the hw, you can't write a driver for it unless you decap all the dies and find the secret keysMay 20 20:30
cubexyzI like BSD a lot, but for old loki games and old LGP games I'm going to use old LinuxMay 20 20:30
MinceRi'd prefer not having to decompileMay 20 20:30
cubexyzcan't use BSD for everythingMay 20 20:30
MinceRi'll have to try and build an FPGA-based computerMay 20 20:31
oiaohmMinceR: compared to intel ME that is basically hey we make our own custom instruction sets.May 20 20:31
oiaohmMinceR: we already have signed firmware.   That is holding DRM in the likes of Nvidia video cards.May 20 20:32
cubexyzopencores guarantees the survival of old BSD on FPGAMay 20 20:32
MinceRoiaohm: at least that runs on the hwMay 20 20:33
cubexyzas I said before, there's no doomsday scenario where M$ takes over everythingMay 20 20:33
MinceRthere indeed is oneMay 20 20:33
MinceRm$ and/or crApple already have backdoored the entire IT infrastructure of at least one stateMay 20 20:33
oiaohmMinceR: no there is not hardware vendors are not interested in keeping on paying Microsoft either.May 20 20:33
oiaohmMinceR: google could do a doomsday.May 20 20:34
MinceRleaders of nazi hungary gloated about writing the text of laws on computers that crApple has root on and they do notMay 20 20:34
cubexyzok... the slackware peeps have a good text file about UEFI:May 20 20:37
oiaohmMinceR: https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2017/05/03/a-free-upgrade-to-windows-10-pro-might-make-windows-s-laptops-worth-buying/   Of course they miss that Microsoft has had to give Windows S to hardware vendors for nothing.May 20 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | A free upgrade to Windows 10 Pro might make Windows S laptops worth buyingMay 20 20:37
cubexyzhttp://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/slackware/slackware64-14.2/README_UEFI.TXTMay 20 20:37
MinceRa "free" "upgrade"May 20 20:37
MinceRfinally we have malware that can be "upgraded" "freely"!May 20 20:37
oiaohmMinceR: yep for school students to keep Microsoft in schools.May 20 20:37
oiaohmMicrosoft is making a stack of different losses to maintain it position.May 20 20:38
oiaohmAnd those lose ammounts are increasing every year.May 20 20:38
MinceRand all of those losses are oursMay 20 20:38
MinceRthey forced us to buy TPMs in our business laptopsMay 20 20:38
MinceRthey forced UEFI into our PCsMay 20 20:38
MinceRthey forced Restricted Boot into our PCsMay 20 20:38
MinceRthey forced their formats onto citizens by corrupting governmentsMay 20 20:39
MinceRthey forced their products on studentsMay 20 20:39
oiaohmThing to remember Microsoft has to get income to operate.   So it has to recover money from somewhere.May 20 20:41
MinceRand so they have patent trollingMay 20 20:41
MinceRand they have masses of people indoctrinated into microsoft crapMay 20 20:42
oiaohmWhy there were so many places still running XP because those were areas where Microsoft wants to get paid.May 20 20:42
MinceRno, that's because vista and later versions are somehow even more atrocious than xpMay 20 20:42
MinceRsomehow microsoft and apple always manages to find a way to make their products even shittierMay 20 20:42
MinceRapparently the great potential in humanity is to find ways to make extremely shitty things even shittierMay 20 20:42
MinceRsomehow the bkk ticket vending machines detect whether you want to do something with the transaction you started but did not finish -- if you wanted to do something, they forget all the data immediatelyMay 20 20:43
MinceRbut if you walk off, it stays there foreverMay 20 20:43
cubexyzthere's air gapped XP nowMay 20 20:44
cubexyze.g. games May 20 20:44
cubexyzno wifi no internetMay 20 20:44
MinceRit also has a broken banknote scanner, a broken qr code scanner, a touchscreen that doesn't work and it also can't do bank transactions properlyMay 20 20:44
MinceRwindows needs one more air gap, at the power supplyMay 20 20:44
cubexyzdon't look at me dude, I don't give M$ one cent :)May 20 20:45
MinceRand the people who force this shit on me also need an air gap in their food and water supplyMay 20 20:45
MinceRwhat used to be the most prestigious university in hungary now routinely tries to turn its students into vassals of microsoftMay 20 20:46
oiaohmcubexyz: yep do note that apples EFI is that far broken installing another OS can brick it.May 20 20:46
MinceRsamsung also developed a self-bricking uefi implementationMay 20 20:47
oiaohmMinceR: that one was impressive.May 20 20:47
MinceRindeedMay 20 20:47
oiaohmMinceR: no OS required.May 20 20:47
MinceRwell, uefi is an OS unto itselfMay 20 20:48
oiaohmMinceR: and thinking they started with the intel reference UEFI implementation that worked.May 20 20:48
MinceR"worked"May 20 20:48
cubexyzyou could KO the UEFI and switch to corebootMay 20 20:48
MinceRyou couldMay 20 20:48
oiaohmMinceR: ie did not kill self.May 20 20:48
MinceRif intel didn't sabotage competition with boot guardMay 20 20:48
MinceRmicrosoft has vassals in governments all over the word that ensures they can get money robbed from taxpayers sent to them any timeMay 20 20:50
cubexyzSony was bad axing OtherOS optionMay 20 20:52
MinceRindeedMay 20 20:52
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cubexyzI was sorry to see that... then the federal judge dismisses the lawsuitMay 20 20:52
MinceRbut it was of no use to them once they managed to get the suckers to pay for their shitty consoles expecting to run a real OS on themMay 20 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/866093520959881221May 20 20:52
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Still thinking hard how to manage news postings aboutMay 20 20:52
TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup  #gnu #linuxMay 20 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Maybe something along the lines of RTing @tuxmachines onMay 20 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 it all?May 20 20:52
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MinceRi missed thatMay 20 20:52
MinceRso i guess there are no "truth in advertisement" laws in effect in the usa anymoreMay 20 20:53
MinceRjust like there are no antitrust laws that are enforcedMay 20 20:53
cubexyzyou still can use OtherOS on early PlayStation 3'sMay 20 20:53
cubexyzjust not newer onesMay 20 20:53
MinceRuntil you use PSNMay 20 20:54
MinceRwhich will then "upgrade" the system to break OtherOSMay 20 20:54
cubexyzsony was weird... they actually had a PS2 Linux kitMay 20 20:54
MinceRi wonder if they broke that tooMay 20 20:55
oiaohmMinceR: the PS2 kit still works.May 20 20:55
cubexyzSony gave $55 to OtherOS users in a settlementMay 20 20:56
MinceR>                        If you are using an Apple Intel Mac, DO NOT TRY TOMay 20 20:58
MinceR> INSTALL A MENU ENTRY!  It would probably brick your firmware requiring AppleMay 20 20:58
MinceR> to service the machine to reflash the firmware.May 20 20:58
MinceRah yes, the famous apple "quality"May 20 20:58
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TweetTuxMachines@schestowitz     https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/866094306544713728May 20 21:46
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Still thinking hard how to manage news postings aboutMay 20 21:46
TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost  #gnu #linuxMay 20 21:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Maybe something along the lines of RTing @tuxmachines onMay 20 21:46
TweetTuxMachines                 it all?May 20 21:46
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TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 13/5/2017: Neptune Plasma 5 ISO, a Shift to FreeMay 14 00:05
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (FOSS) Databases https://t.co/3N5FJ9htWK (techrights.org)May 14 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.12-rc1 https://t.co/uVpigMvw1PMay 14 01:56
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cubexyzpwdMay 14 03:34
DaemonFCI read an article that says that Microsoft is getting ready to do ARM again with Windows.May 14 04:01
DaemonFCSome sort of dynamic binary translation system (think "Rosetta" on Intel Macs) will be there at first.May 14 04:01
DaemonFCThat's not really a great way to run apps that need great performance, so we'll probably see Fat Binaries for Windows that have x86 and ARM code in them eventually.May 14 04:02
DaemonFCI mean, if they want to do things right and not have another failed port of Windows on their hands.May 14 04:02
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DaemonFCThey're probably sick of all of the power management issues that Intel keeps giving them.May 14 04:12
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Links 13/5/2017: Neptune Plasma 5 ISO, a Shift...'May 14 04:37
oiaohmDaemonFC: the recent closed source virtual x86 on arm has shown quite decent performance.May 14 04:42
oiaohmDaemonFC: https://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop/  these demoed that the overhead running x86 on arm is not too bad.May 14 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eltechs.com | ExaGear Desktop. Run x86 applications on ARM-based devices.May 14 04:43
DaemonFCMaybe Microsoft licensed that one.May 14 04:50
DaemonFCThey are known to do things like that, or buy the entire company.May 14 04:50
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oiaohmDaemonFC: there is a white paper based on how exagear works.May 14 06:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863616377457737729May 14 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 LinuxAndUbuntu Distro Review Of The Week Bodhi LinuxMay 14 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tNPQUyPCdR (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 06:25
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oiaohmDaemonFC: http://wccftech.com/arm-announces-restrictions-vendors-run-x86-systems/ then we have arm talking about direct x86 support of some form.May 14 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | ARM Opens Its Chips For x86 Support To All Manufacturers Including Apple & Samsung [ http://ur1.ca/quynp ]May 14 06:25
oiaohmDaemonFC: https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/01/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-will-able-emulate-x86.html  not exactly super speed but should be workable x86 support.May 14 06:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863688453179015168May 14 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Razer Sabertooth & Mad Catz Brawlstick Support In LinuxMay 14 10:42
TweetTuxMachines                 4.12 https://t.co/TNBWj6vbf4 (www.phoronix.com)May 14 10:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Razer Sabertooth & Mad Catz Brawlstick Support In Linux 4.12 - PhoronixMay 14 10:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/863695577154015232May 14 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrIvanJohnson: @schestowitz https://t.co/glA5ASIlgZMay 14 11:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/863696093347008513May 14 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MrIvanJohnson: Did #Marr happen to ask if it's wiser to spend £20B on useless #Trident or on providing secure, updated IT systems to #NHS? @schestowitzMay 14 11:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863691059628392448May 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Best Games To Play In Linux TerminalMay 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/fApKL8OtRc (www.linuxandubuntu.com)May 14 11:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Games To Play In Linux Terminal - LinuxAndUbuntu - Linux News | Apps Reviews | Linux Tutorials HowToMay 14 11:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: razielle_tzu pingMay 14 11:27
oiaohmhttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/13/gnu_gpl_enforceable_contract/  hmm this alters the GPL enforcement process.May 14 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | For now, GNU GPL is an enforceable contract, says US federal judge • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/quzch ]May 14 11:36
oiaohmBeing able to use contract law instead of copyright law removes fair use from table.May 14 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863697164962217984May 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Security News, Notably Microsoft/NSA CatastropheMay 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/RrEEd1aaUl (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 11:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pinguinpatje/status/863744231806042113May 14 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pinguinpatje: @X_Pensive_Wino @polr @jakke009 @sebastienk Kan echt wel aanraden om https://t.co/qZ7A41mO5R te volgen! Concentreer… https://t.co/qkfD8BpASIMay 14 14:15
schestowitzoiaohm: yes, published some days ago by qzMay 14 14:15
oiaohmschestowitz: I wonder if orcale will have another crack and google.May 14 14:30
MinceRmaybe Obstacle will act like SCO didMay 14 14:51
oiaohmMinceR: also being contract also effect the vmware case.May 14 14:52
MinceRhttp://funkyounow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/funny-it-comics-li-anne-dias-4-58fdcc197e0f6__700.jpgMay 14 14:53
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/I3Rl1Ud.gifvMay 14 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "I'm crushing your head!"  "I'm pinching your face!"May 14 14:55
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/pYcolQ6.pngMay 14 14:57
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MinceRhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/03100217039/no-copyright-intended-coming-generation-who-intrinsically-assumes-remix-sharing-makes-sense.shtmlMay 14 15:19
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/ARuAyMay 14 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adopted this silly cat - Album on ImgurMay 14 15:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863764955757195264May 14 15:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Release of KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 https://t.co/I8FxgGTDJIMay 14 15:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 15:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863765474252926976May 14 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                 The Many New Features Of The Linux 4.12 Kernel The ManyMay 14 15:39
TweetTuxMachines                 New Features Of The Linux 4.12 KernelMay 14 15:39
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schestowitz[14:55] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/I3Rl1Ud.gifvMay 14 15:52
schestowitzWeirdMay 14 15:52
schestowitz[15:19] <MinceR> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111212/03100217039/no-copyright-intended-coming-generation-who-intrinsically-assumes-remix-sharing-makes-sense.shtmlMay 14 15:53
schestowitzoldMay 14 15:53
schestowitz:-)May 14 15:53
schestowitzMinceR: I'll be away for the next two weeks, you know what to do about IRC and all...May 14 15:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LivePatriot/status/863769122416361473May 14 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LivePatriot: @schestowitz Nobody adopts a cat, cats adopt you.May 14 15:53
MinceRschestowitz: yesMay 14 16:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863772315552817153May 14 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 liveslak 1.1.8 and new ISO images https://t.co/uAyUYOnH8VMay 14 16:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863778446979153920May 14 16:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Eric Hameleers on Slackware https://t.co/PUHxrKbxw8May 14 16:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Eric Hameleers on Slackware | Tux MachinesMay 14 16:30
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6atany/regarding_the_hitman_hiring_to_kill_lennart/May 14 16:50
schestowitzMinceR: ^May 14 16:50
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schestowitzMinceR: cheers for looking after the channelsMay 14 16:50
schestowitzI think it'll log everything fine, I leave my laptop connected at home May 14 16:50
schestowitzand we hardly have trolls here anymoreMay 14 16:50
MinceR:)May 14 16:54
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MinceRlol @ helicopter-shaped dentMay 14 16:58
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/BfVRoIx.jpgMay 14 17:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863778459574706176May 14 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux Review: Ubuntu MATE 17.04 Zesty ZapusMay 14 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/eCaTrTgzXh (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 17:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786682000171008May 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/yrSd9G4SoiMay 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 14 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: KDE | Tux MachinesMay 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786683602321409May 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/ZP1khxdZRoMay 14 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786684831354880May 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/tO69zwSGJGMay 14 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Space/Linux | Tux MachinesMay 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786686047703040May 14 17:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 4.11.1 https://t.co/3FfdZnkTZRMay 14 17:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863786933272666112May 14 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 [Video] Plasma 5 layout - my most productive desktopMay 14 17:07
TweetTuxMachines                 configuration https://t.co/vK3vinIhvr (error)May 14 17:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863787861052719105May 14 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 I put #Debian on my Kindle! https://t.co/vYzOl41IKkMay 14 17:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (i.imgur.com) #kindle #gnu #linuxMay 14 17:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863791680641748992May 14 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Review - 2017 System76 Galago Pro UltrabookMay 14 17:52
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6agpmd/so_i_just_build_lfs_took_me_2_nights/May 14 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | So I just build LFS. Took me 2 nights. : linuxMay 14 18:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863799290489171972May 14 18:10
TweetTuxMachines                 [Video] Deepin 15.4 - See What's NewMay 14 18:10
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schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6axvjo/now_we_know_who_is_writing_the_error_messages_for/May 14 18:22
schestowitzserverino :-)May 14 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Now we know who is writing the error messages for CIFS-utils : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qv0e3 ]May 14 18:22
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/VLlbCMay 14 18:58
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/67m6uAG.jpgMay 14 19:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819123620491269May 14 19:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Talks and FOSS Events https://t.co/HQm4dur8czMay 14 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 A Look at Firefox 57 and Comparison to ChromeMay 14 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/2SrS7zX6BBMay 14 19:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819851688759297May 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest of Linux 4.11 and 4.12 https://t.co/CedA4cO9nwMay 14 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest of Linux 4.11 and 4.12 | Tux MachinesMay 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819860236574720May 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu on Laptops https://t.co/ZSHgY6g5jIMay 14 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu on Laptops | Tux MachinesMay 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819864732876800May 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME/GTK News https://t.co/3wzrDvlKy7May 14 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME/GTK News | Tux MachinesMay 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819870877564928May 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Devices and Android https://t.co/6o32rsJy07May 14 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices and Android | Tux MachinesMay 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819872970481664May 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/an31YTnqbpMay 14 19:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux MachinesMay 14 19:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863819881405308928May 14 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 today's leftovers https://t.co/VyddrP2aooMay 14 20:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 14 20:02
cubexyzoiaohm, xautolock is worth checking outMay 14 20:04
cubexyznot sure if it's part of the main body of X11 software May 14 20:04
cubexyzbut very usefulMay 14 20:04
MinceRhttp://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%B4-%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%BA-3842982.gifMay 14 20:15
cubexyzhahaha, what movie is that?May 14 20:16
MinceRdunno, but it's from indiaMay 14 20:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/GQf2u.pngMay 14 20:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/863831818713354242May 14 20:28
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0May 14 20:28
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/fdbazSr0vo (techrights.org)May 14 20:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/5/2017: Linux 4.12 RC1 and KDE Frameworks 5.34.0 | TechrightsMay 14 20:28
cubexyzgermans were very foolish using windows systems for their trainsMay 14 20:56
MinceRindeedMay 14 21:01
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/52RMGMay 14 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Funny Wikipedia edits by internet vandals - Album on ImgurMay 14 21:12
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSJXC6_qQ8May 14 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The American Kilogram - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qv0sl ]May 14 21:23
schestowitzhttps://mastodon.tetaneutral.net/users/josemanuel/updates/11119May 14 21:25
schestowitz"I've been using FLAC for years now. No patents, awesome quality."May 14 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.tetaneutral.net | Mastodon Tetaneutral.net [ http://ur1.ca/qv0sz ]May 14 21:26
XRevan86> BootieButlerMay 14 21:26
XRevan86MinceR: That's pretty cool.May 14 21:26
schestowitzyeah, just seen itMay 14 21:28
schestowitzworks OKMay 14 21:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863852184814800896May 14 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 5 Tips To Master Linux https://t.co/CPQSX6XFiAMay 14 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Tips To Master Linux | Tux MachinesMay 14 21:29
schestowitzdon't get why they are so paranoid over this "exhibit"May 14 21:29
schestowitzit's mostly symbolicMay 14 21:29
XRevan86schestowitz: As he says later, it's priceless.May 14 21:30
XRevan86So they definitely don't want to lose it or reduce its quality :)May 14 21:30
MinceRunfortunately, at least until the kg gets redefined, it is more than symbolicMay 14 21:33
MinceRthe calibration of scales ultimately depends on these standardsMay 14 21:33
MinceRhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/05/intels-management-engine-security-hazard-and-users-need-way-disable-itMay 14 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Intel's Management Engine is a security hazard, and users need a way to disable it | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/quxfr ]May 14 21:44
schestowitzseen thatMay 14 22:10
schestowitzgood.May 14 22:10
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/G3TAJMay 14 22:17
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/64mBx8J.gifvMay 14 22:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/863853672446480388May 14 23:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMay 14 23:13
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/h8j3prW6rGMay 14 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines                 Today in Techrights https://t.co/Oh4oGwfh9bMay 14 23:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863885085384339456May 14 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Project Treble is super exciting, but custom AndroidMay 14 23:35
TweetTuxMachines                 interfaces are here to stay https://t.co/cEj4WfrkACMay 14 23:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Project Treble is super exciting, but custom Android interfaces are here to stay | Android CentralMay 14 23:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863885426356084737May 14 23:36
TweetTuxMachines                 The case for Android Oreo https://t.co/JpriOgoTMrMay 14 23:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Google Pixel 2 Leak Reveals A Powerful Android O HandsetMay 14 23:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Nsz98sxAdW (www.valuewalk.com)May 14 23:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.valuewalk.com | Google Pixel 2 Leak Reveals A Powerful Android O HandsetMay 14 23:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863888798727499776May 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds stops personally signing Linux rc tarballsMay 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/BtYfx8nmlR (www.theregister.co.uk)May 14 23:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linus Torvalds stops personally signing Linux rc tarballs • The RegisterMay 14 23:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863889364165775365May 14 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 A Story About My Uncle officially released for LinuxMay 14 23:57
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/HJHy5uhPlx (www.gamingonlinux.com)May 14 23:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Story About My Uncle officially released for Linux | GamingOnLinuxMay 14 23:57
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android Leftovers https://t.co/yCx2D9yOppMay 15 00:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863892894721114113May 15 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Sudden Strike 4 to release August 11th with day-1 LinuxMay 15 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 support https://t.co/trH5I2njln (www.gamingonlinux.com)May 15 00:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sudden Strike 4 to release August 11th with day-1 Linux support | GamingOnLinuxMay 15 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863893172308586496May 15 00:17
TweetTuxMachines                 The developer of 'Inner Voices' will seriously consider aMay 15 00:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux version with enough interestMay 15 00:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/FMah1w52r0 (www.gamingonlinux.com)May 15 00:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The developer of 'Inner Voices' will seriously consider a Linux version with enough interest | GamingOnLinuxMay 15 00:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863896178269794304May 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed,May 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/o9pxi6TpvUMay 15 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed, Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5May 15 00:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863896458076016641May 15 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Calibre 2.85 Ebook Manager App Adds Support for Kobo AuraMay 15 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 H2O Edition 2 eReader https://t.co/9jEeVZqIeiMay 15 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)May 15 00:35
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/MccogAHiYCMay 15 01:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863908561214029825May 15 01:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/CuD2OuM986May 15 01:07
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TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtos https://t.co/8PNaSklqpPMay 15 01:07
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TweetTuxMachines                 Leftovers: Software https://t.co/Xp52zHk0b5May 15 01:07
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oiaohmcubexyz: xautolock is still calls programs that use the hack in X11 that is bipassable.May 15 01:08
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TweetTuxMachines                 New Kernels and Mesa https://t.co/tP3CdXAxs6May 15 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernels and Mesa | Tux MachinesMay 15 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863917107242688512May 15 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 The Alpha Litebook https://t.co/pN3pXB0W0GMay 15 01:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Alpha Litebook | Tux MachinesMay 15 01:41
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DaemonFChttp://imgur.com/a/cFmBhMay 15 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the InternetMay 15 02:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/863917127496982530May 15 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed,May 15 02:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/JQm3UtN8TIMay 15 02:12
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TweetTuxMachines                 New Neptune Linux Plasma 5 ISO Snapshot Lands with KDEMay 15 02:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Applications 17.04, More https://t.co/cc7RF17IcVMay 15 02:45
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cubexyznot sure what you mean oiaohm May 15 04:43
oiaohmcubexyz: https://linux.die.net/man/1/xautolock  you referenced this before  I think.   The default xlock in X11 server that it calls is breakable same with most of the other locker options it can trigger.May 15 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.die.net | xautolock(1) - Linux man pageMay 15 04:56
cubexyzas far as I know, xautolock doesn't use xlockMay 15 04:59
cubexyzoh wait... it doesMay 15 05:00
cubexyzdefaults to xlockMay 15 05:00
cubexyzhold on oiaohm :)May 15 05:02
cubexyzthe default is xlock... but I'm not using the defaultMay 15 05:02
cubexyzxautolock for me calls pm-suspend onlyMay 15 05:02
cubexyzso I'm not using xlock May 15 05:02
cubexyzI use:May 15 05:03
cubexyzxautolock -time 15 -locker sudo pm-suspendMay 15 05:04
cubexyzand pm-suspend is set for NOPASSWD in /etc/sudoersMay 15 05:05
oiaohmcubexyz: that why I mentioned what I did. May 15 05:05
oiaohmxautolock is a good activity detector not good at locking screen.May 15 05:06
oiaohmcubexyz: you seam to be using the part of xautolock that works.May 15 05:06
cubexyzexcellent :)May 15 05:06
cubexyzwould you happen to know how much space hard drive hibernation needs?May 15 05:24
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oiaohmcubexyz: normally equal to ram and that is bad on some systems I have with 64G of ram.May 15 05:28
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cubexyzI can't write to /sys/power/stateMay 15 05:42
cubexyznot even as rootMay 15 05:42
cubexyzit's preventing me from suspendingMay 15 05:43
cubexyznot feeling patient enough to figure it out :-/May 15 05:49
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oiaohmhttps://input.club/waitlist/  Hmm this is warped usb C port keyboard.May 15 11:58
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6nVH2KH7IMay 15 19:58
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/johnwilander/status/864141132229365760May 15 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnwilander: OH: “Installing a WannaCry screenshot as a coworker’s screensaver.” Very evil. Very evil indeed. https://t.co/RJV1MQPY0rMay 15 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnwilander: OH: “Installing a WannaCry screenshot as a coworker’s screensaver.” Very evil. Very evil indeed. https://t.co/RJV1MQPY0rMay 15 20:39
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/NFMZWrx.pngMay 15 20:48
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cubexyzok, I'm bad that I think this is funny:May 15 23:17
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/more-windows-fun.txtMay 15 23:17
cubexyzok, not really funnyMay 15 23:18
MinceRbusiness as usualMay 15 23:18
cubexyzyou have to boot info windows to change UEFI settings?May 15 23:19
cubexyzdoesn't sound good at allMay 15 23:19
MinceRafaik in some configurations it may not let you enter uefi setup at all, except from winblows, or if you pull the mass storage deviceMay 15 23:20
MinceR(the latter of course may void your warranty)May 15 23:21
cubexyzor maybe he just had to boot into windows once to do anythingMay 15 23:21
MinceRuefi is a crime against humanityMay 15 23:21
cubexyznot to mention the boot loader was alteredMay 15 23:23
cubexyz"new windows 8 PCs don't include traditional BIOS"May 15 23:32
cubexyzok I see the problem nowMay 15 23:35
cubexyz"you may need to access the UEFI settings scren through the windows boot options menu rather than pressing a key on startup"May 15 23:35
cubexyzthat would force at least one boot into windows May 15 23:36
cubexyzbut they also say erroneous thingsMay 15 23:38
cubexyz"The days of pressing a function key or Esc to interrupt the boot process and get into the BIOS configuration (in UEFI enabled systems) are gone."May 15 23:39
cubexyzthat's wrongMay 15 23:39
MinceRoh no, you could get into bios setup by pressing a key!May 15 23:39
cubexyzsince almost every computer I have does thatMay 15 23:39
MinceRwhat sort of morons see that as a problem?May 15 23:39
MinceRthey shouldn't be allowed to touch computersMay 15 23:39
cubexyzyeah that's badMay 15 23:39
MinceRthey should play with rocksMay 15 23:39
cubexyzI didn't realize how bad the situation isMay 15 23:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-15/second-wave-ransomware-cyberattack-begins-spread-wever-never-seen-anythingMay 16 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | New Variant Of "WannaCry" Virus Emerges Infecting 3,600 Computers Per Hour | Zero HedgeMay 16 00:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, You'd think that with as much as governments tax people, they could afford to run something better than 15 year old computers with Windows XP on them.May 16 00:34
oiaohmDaemonFC: not that simple.May 16 00:35
cubexyzMRI machines with older software comes to mindMay 16 00:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: there are a lot of software government and companies have written that only run on XP.May 16 00:36
DaemonFCAnd they thought that they would never have to deal with that?May 16 00:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: think about it you still hear of companies calling for cobol developers to deal with 40 year old programs.May 16 00:36
DaemonFCMost of the hardware is overdue for a failure already.May 16 00:36
cubexyzhaMay 16 00:37
DaemonFCMicrosoft shouldn't have patched XP. They should have pulled back and let whatever happens happen.May 16 00:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: old computer I know of still in use is a IBM XT.   And I mean active usage.May 16 00:39
cubexyzP3's with big heat sinks can last a very long timeMay 16 00:39
DaemonFCNow they sent the message that there's always going to be a "Well, just this once." every time there's a big problem with it.May 16 00:39
cubexyzATX boxes are also very repairableMay 16 00:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: the IBM XT I know of is recoding earth quake information in a particular town.May 16 00:40
oiaohmDaemonFC: the place gets about 20-40 earthquakes people cannot fell a day.May 16 00:40
DaemonFCYeah, and there's a Commodore that controls the heat and air conditioning at a high school in Michigan.May 16 00:41
DaemonFCDoesn't make it a good idea.May 16 00:41
oiaohmDaemonFC: the IBM XT I am refering is will maintained.May 16 00:41
DaemonFCThey say that they're trying to transition away from it because something fails every now and then and it's becoming too difficult to find replacement parts.May 16 00:41
DaemonFCAnd there's only one guy that really knows how to use it.May 16 00:42
cubexyzCommodore what?May 16 00:42
DaemonFCI think it was an Amiga, but I'm not entirely sure.May 16 00:42
oiaohmDaemonFC: 20-40 earthquakes per day is quite a bit of vibration tolerance the system needs.May 16 00:42
DaemonFChttp://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a16010/30-year-old-computer-runs-school-heat/May 16 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popularmechanics.com | One Ancient Commodore Amiga Runs the Heat and AC for 19 Public Schools [ http://ur1.ca/qv4w7 ]May 16 00:42
cubexyzoiaohm, what monitor did the XT use?May 16 00:43
DaemonFCMy mistake. 19 public schools depend on it.May 16 00:43
DaemonFCAnd it's as old as me and one guy knows how to use it.May 16 00:43
oiaohmcubexyz: Its been modified to use a modern LCD.   Those break quite a bit.May 16 00:43
cubexyzAmiga might be a bit tricky getting partsMay 16 00:43
DaemonFCThey probably regret using that.May 16 00:43
oiaohmcubexyz: it requires about a new screen every 2 years.May 16 00:43
cubexyzoiaohm, eh? How come?May 16 00:43
DaemonFCIf anything happens to that one guy, they're screwed. Nobody else will ever figure it out.May 16 00:44
cubexyzoh earthquakes right :)May 16 00:44
DaemonFCFrom what I understand, he's not charging them too much to keep it working.May 16 00:44
cubexyzthat looks like a 500May 16 00:44
cubexyzif it's the correct pictureMay 16 00:44
DaemonFCThey should look at Nest or something like that.May 16 00:44
oiaohmThe amiga one makes no real sense.May 16 00:45
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cubexyzI wouldn't say an Amiga 500 is "ancient"May 16 00:45
oiaohmThe XT it going to hard to replace.May 16 00:45
oiaohmThe lower complexity motherboard has allowed tracks in the Xt to be fixed with solder and other things.May 16 00:45
cubexyzoiaohm, why don't they fix up some computer with shock absorption?May 16 00:46
DaemonFCoiaohm, They have an XT at the history museum in Fort Wayne. I don't know why. Probably just had one and couldn't think of anything to use it for these days.May 16 00:46
oiaohmcubexyz: they did try that until the cable to the sensors start cracking up.May 16 00:46
oiaohmcubexyz: constant bending May 16 00:46
cubexyzah, special caseMay 16 00:47
DaemonFCThey could probably use XP in some settings if it doesn't have internet access and it has been set up to not allow external storage to be connected by a regular user account.May 16 00:47
cubexyzdoes it have a hard drive?May 16 00:47
oiaohmThey may be able to go to a satalight grade i486 compadible.May 16 00:47
DaemonFCBut the fact that millions of these systems are still on the internet is scary.May 16 00:47
cubexyzyeah, I've been telling people to air gap their XP boxesMay 16 00:48
cubexyzno wifi, no ethernet connectionsMay 16 00:48
oiaohmcubexyz: a 1 foot a cross harddrive with a cm thick plats.  has enough gyro force to be stable.May 16 00:48
DaemonFCI remember when I was glad our library got XP.May 16 00:48
oiaohmcubexyz: it is the define of scary equipment.May 16 00:48
DaemonFCThey had been making us use Windows 95 and Netscape 4 to access the internet.May 16 00:48
DaemonFCIt was intolerable.May 16 00:48
oiaohmcubexyz: old but that old hardware can put up with unbeleivable amount of vibration.May 16 00:49
cubexyzat least with an amiga 500 viruses would be unlikelyMay 16 00:49
DaemonFCBy the year 2002, there was enough Javascript and CSS around that Netscape 4 would just crash and choke on nearly everything.May 16 00:49
cubexyzoiaohm, remember the nuke plants with PDP-11sMay 16 00:49
DaemonFCIt was just barely good enough to check your hotmail.May 16 00:49
cubexyzthere's a reason for thatMay 16 00:49
oiaohmcubexyz: particularly when you consider it has to because a woren out bearings in a 1 foot across harddrive works as quite a good earth quake simulator.May 16 00:50
cubexyzI'd use lynx on very old computersMay 16 00:50
cubexyzor some text based web browserMay 16 00:50
DaemonFCThe internet terminals at the Chicago libraries right now is Windows 7 and IE 11.May 16 00:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: there are places for old computers because they are durable.   That XT they have lined up hardware to replace it when it finally packs it in.May 16 00:51
DaemonFCI mostly just use it for printing. I have a throwaway Outlook account that I don't care if it gets taken over or whatever.May 16 00:51
DaemonFCThat's the only thing I log into there.May 16 00:51
oiaohmThe big issue is like that head and ac where there is not a replacement plan in place.May 16 00:52
oiaohmThat earthquake XT has had 5 days of downtime in 20 years.May 16 00:53
DaemonFCoiaohm, It's the government. May 16 00:53
cubexyzI could run IRC on quasijarus if I wanted toMay 16 00:53
cubexyzit's not fun but I _could_ do itMay 16 00:53
oiaohmDaemonFC: yes that is a government computer.May 16 00:53
DaemonFCIt's going to be chintzy.May 16 00:53
DaemonFCJust look at what $2 billion bought with the first version of Healthcare.govMay 16 00:53
cubexyzoiaohm, I'm curious to know which LCD they used for that XTMay 16 00:54
cubexyzdoes it have 8-bit VGA card or something?May 16 00:54
oiaohmcubexyz: you can order them for industrial machines.  It is CGA.May 16 00:54
cubexyzah I seeMay 16 00:54
oiaohmcubexyz: it job is simple monitor the sensors record the data then twice a day dial a number and send the data in.May 16 00:56
oiaohmcubexyz: and if there is no shakes for more than 2 hours also straight up dial.May 16 00:56
oiaohmcubexyz: its a strange place it safe for humans as long as it shaking when it stops that is when a big earth quake in the area is coming.May 16 00:57
oiaohmcubexyz: and it strange because you can prevent earthquakes there by doing a water release and triggering small quakes instead of having the big one.May 16 00:59
cubexyzis it close to a volcano?May 16 00:59
oiaohmcubexyz: no the complete place is sitting on a moving floating rock slab.May 16 00:59
oiaohmcubexyz: it when it gets stuck do problems happen.May 16 01:00
cubexyzI think the IBM 5151 would be the original monitorMay 16 01:01
oiaohmcubexyz: yes if everyone moves to one side of the town it would tip by about 4 degrees.May 16 01:01
cubexyzwhere is this?May 16 01:01
oiaohmTo be correct the part of the town on slab.   The place is called gayndah.  native meaning of the name is place of thunder.  Kinda makes sense.May 16 01:02
DaemonFCDid Fedora drop 32-bit x86 support completely?May 16 01:02
cubexyzyes I think soMay 16 01:03
oiaohmcubexyz: its one of the few towns in Australia that has the correct tribal name.May 16 01:03
DaemonFCI always figured that they would be the first.May 16 01:03
cubexyzFedora 24 server dropped i686 supportMay 16 01:03
cubexyznot positive about completely thoughMay 16 01:04
DaemonFCProbably still has the 32-bit compatibility libraries though?May 16 01:04
DaemonFCToo much software needs that (Wine for instance).May 16 01:04
cubexyzall I can tell you is about slackware... and it does have 32-bit compatibility libsMay 16 01:04
cubexyzbut I run a ton of older computers so no problem thereMay 16 01:05
cubexyzof course you have to add the 32-bit compatibility stuff in yourselfMay 16 01:05
oiaohmDaemonFC: wine has required the Linux kernel to maintain support for 16 bit protected and other things.May 16 01:05
oiaohmDaemonFC: for a while the wine project was scared when 16 bit protected was dropped from 64 bit kernels.May 16 01:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: until Linus said it had to be put back.May 16 01:06
oiaohmIts why its such a laugh when people say will wine run until WSL.May 16 01:07
oiaohmI don't see Microsoft put in the parts wine needs.May 16 01:07
cubexyzWSL?May 16 01:07
cubexyzoh the subsystem May 16 01:07
DaemonFCYeah, no actual Linux code.May 16 01:08
DaemonFCThey won't go near that.May 16 01:08
DaemonFCIt should really be called Bash for Windows or something.May 16 01:09
cubexyzI stopped using Fedora May 16 01:10
cubexyzFedora 16 was the last one I triedMay 16 01:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: it could be interesting that GPL has been confirmed as a contract.May 16 01:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: it would be funny if WSL turns out not to be legal because of that.May 16 01:11
DaemonFCThere's no Linux kernel codeMay 16 01:12
DaemonFCI don't see how Microsoft distributing Bash could be illegal.May 16 01:13
DaemonFCIt's not a derivative work of Windows. It's just a programMay 16 01:13
DaemonFCBesides, there's now GPLv3 licensed software in the Windows Store.May 16 01:13
DaemonFCAt least one app. ublock-origin for Microsoft Edge.May 16 01:14
cubexyzI've heard of a few people actually compiling their own windowsMay 16 01:14
cubexyzwindows NT somethingMay 16 01:14
cubexyzthey had the windows entertainment pack code  and a full win32 subsystem: GDI32, User32, Kernel32, win32k, csrss etc, etcMay 16 01:16
DaemonFCOnly parts of the Windows source code have ever been released.May 16 01:16
DaemonFCSome unintentionally and illegally (parts of Windows NT4/2000 in the MainWin leak). Some by Microsoft, but all you could do is look at it (Windows Research Kernel, based on Windows 2003 with a bunch of stuff like filesystem code missing).May 16 01:17
cubexyzuh yeah there's the windows research kernelMay 16 01:18
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cubexyznot sure exactly what they did May 16 01:18
cubexyzhttps://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=8306&sid=caf7b9a10e6dd4e0998329982b05fd12&start=125May 16 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-View topic - Windows NT Source Compiled! - BetaArchiveMay 16 01:20
cubexyzI think they have the entire NT 4.0May 16 01:25
cubexyznot partsMay 16 01:25
cubexyzhttp://igorkorkin.blogspot.ca/2013/09/windows-nt-40-full-free-source-code-912_16.htmlMay 16 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-igorkorkin.blogspot.ca | The science of stealth malware detection: Windows NT 4.0 Full Free Source Code (912 MB) [ http://ur1.ca/qv4zv ]May 16 01:26
cubexyzso thereMay 16 01:26
cubexyzlooks like the full version was KOed thoughMay 16 01:31
cubexyzthat file is only 106 megsMay 16 01:31
razielle_tzuit seems to be the whole thing, extracted it is 915 megMay 16 01:35
cubexyzhttps://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TmCMteX1XJIJ:https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D33250+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-aMay 16 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webcache.googleusercontent.com | View topic - Windows NT 4 Source Compiled! version 2 - BetaArchiveMay 16 01:39
cubexyz"The only missing component that prevents the full compilation of the source code is the implementation of DES/CBC cryptographic functions and rsa32.lib (rsa32.lib is only available in compiled form, no source is known to be available for it at this time)."May 16 01:40
cubexyzah cool :)May 16 01:42
oiaohmcubexyz: of course that does not mean it legal to use.May 16 01:54
oiaohmcubexyz: if it was reactos would be a lot more complete.May 16 01:55
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DaemonFChttps://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.htmlMay 16 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Skylake's power management under Linux is dreadful and you shouldn't buy one until it's fixedMay 16 02:38
DaemonFCI just tried out Ubuntu 17.04 and it was getting to pc8 quite a bit of the time.May 16 02:38
DaemonFCThat's on Linux 4.10.May 16 02:39
DaemonFCMy laptop seemed to be running pretty cool. Very little fan activity.May 16 02:39
DaemonFCI'll probably go back to Ubuntu later this year from Windows 10.May 16 02:39
DaemonFCI want them to go back to GNOME officially first.May 16 02:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/japalmeira/status/864265415253512192May 16 02:42
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    New Neptune Linux Plasma 5 ISO Snapshot Lands with KDEMay 16 02:42
TweetTuxMachines @japalmeira     Applications 17.04, More https://t.co/cc7RF17IcVMay 16 02:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/ocNjyVxrcGMay 16 02:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Neptune Linux Plasma 5 ISO Snapshot Lands with KDE Applications 17.04, More | Tux MachinesMay 16 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: New Neptune Linux Plasma 5 ISO Snapshot Lands with KDE Applications 17.04, More https://t.co/cc7RF17IcV https://t.co/ocNjyVxrcGMay 16 02:42
DaemonFCschestowitz, I wonder how long the power management on Skylake has been alright.May 16 02:48
DaemonFCMathew Garrett was complaining last year that it wouldn't do any good to get Linux installable on Skylake-based Lenovo Yoga laptops because the power management sucked.May 16 02:48
DaemonFCApparently, it doesn't suck now, and you can use the powertop service to make sure everything is tuned on every start up.May 16 02:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: 4.11 kernel had a few fixes.May 16 02:51
oiaohmDaemonFC: those were back ported to LTS linux kernels.May 16 02:51
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DaemonFCIntel hasn't been very good about supporting Linux with their latest hardware, so it's been more than a year now since Skylake launched and it's just now getting to the point where you'd want to use Linux on it, if you can get it installed (nasty Lenovo RAID garbage).May 16 03:30
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Paul__web scraping tool OctoparseMay 16 04:43
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cubexyzI wonder if IE 2.0 source is in hereMay 16 05:23
cubexyzalso makes me wonder what kind of hardware they had back then to compile itMay 16 05:26
cubexyzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa2jAAh4VgQMay 16 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NT 4 - NTOS BUILD - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qv5n3 ]May 16 05:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/MuDongLiang/status/864327256746975232May 16 05:36
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed,May 16 05:36
TweetTuxMachines @MuDongLiang    Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/JQm3UtN8TIMay 16 05:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/U3rhs5Db9EMay 16 05:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed, Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 | Tux MachinesMay 16 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Linux Kernel 4.11 Coming Soon to openSUSE Tumbleweed, Users Get KDE Plasma 5.9.5 https://t.co/JQm3UtN8TI https://t.co/U3rhs5Db9EMay 16 05:36
cubexyza lot of the filenames are 8.3 May 16 05:36
cubexyznot sure how they're getting away with writing openNTMay 16 05:40
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cubexyzback to the normality of 3bsd I thinkMay 16 06:12
MinceRhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/ubuntu-guest-sessions-login-disabledMay 16 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Security Flaw in Ubuntu Login Screen Could Let Anyone Access Your Files - OMG! Ubuntu!May 16 06:26
cubexyzif you have physical access you can do a lot of thingsMay 16 06:47
cubexyzblame systemd :)May 16 06:48
MinceRalso blame lightdmMay 16 06:52
MinceRit's a piece of shitMay 16 06:52
MinceRand also blame ubuntuMay 16 06:52
MinceRpoint is, this is what happens when people overcomplicate everything, then mess around with them without understanding what's happeningMay 16 06:54
DaemonFC`MinceR, I ran across some guy screaming that GNOME 3 is part of the FSF's plan to centralize and control everything.May 16 07:02
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DaemonFCThere are a collection of Shell extensions that let people customize it considerably.May 16 07:02
MinceRif only it was the FSF'sMay 16 07:03
MinceRbut it's red hat'sMay 16 07:03
MinceRthe FSF is content to be a puppet of red hat, so long as they keep sending them moneyMay 16 07:03
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/TsxO4Mk.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/TsxO4Mk )May 16 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Crab eating a strawberryMay 16 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crab eating a strawberry - GIF on ImgurMay 16 07:16
cubexyzlinux software is a bit like a big banquet tableMay 16 08:23
cubexyzyou look around and partake in what you likeMay 16 08:23
cubexyzif you don't like Ubuntu there's lots of other distros to choose fromMay 16 08:24
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MinceRindeedMay 16 11:07
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amarsh04looking for recommendations to answer this request: "I want to upgrade my parental desktop OS, due to the massive ransomware floating about. It's a 2004 XP machine, and for their comfort, it would need to be a Linux distro that replicates the feel and look of XP. I'm currently looking at Lubuntu for that purpose, but if you know a better distro that meets my criteria, I'm happy to look at it/use it."May 16 12:51
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Manning is a hero. May she receive...'May 16 12:59
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/GDHjZ3g.jpgMay 16 13:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864457040181157888May 16 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Here Is What You Need To Know About WannCry RansomwareMay 16 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 That's Infecting Windows Systems GloballyMay 16 14:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zqBOB28Y3V (www.tuxmachines.org)May 16 14:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here Is What You Need To Know About WannCry Ransomware That's Infecting Windows Systems Globally | Tux MachinesMay 16 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864485537356300289May 16 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Behold, auto-completing Android bug reports – becauseMay 16 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 you're not very thorough https://t.co/O7aU0k4wseMay 16 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)May 16 15:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Behold, auto-completing Android bug reports – because you're not very thorough • The RegisterMay 16 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864485830055743490May 16 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Get Familiar with Your Android SmartphoneMay 16 15:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/boNYz9GESC (sanjuanislander.com) …May 16 15:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sanjuanislander.com | June 2: Get Familiar with Your Android SmartphoneMay 16 15:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864486198722445314May 16 15:31
TweetTuxMachines                 For the first time in years #tuxmachines is over a dayMay 16 15:31
TweetTuxMachines                 behind in news. Will correct this shortly...May 16 15:31
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MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1592May 16 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 04/25/2017May 16 16:13
MinceRhttp://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1593May 16 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 04/27/2017May 16 16:16
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MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/WFGLoMay 16 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A New Zealand dump that makes me proud to be a kiwi - Album on ImgurMay 16 19:26
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cubexyzeeqMay 16 20:07
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/kox7Ydm.pngMay 16 20:22
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MinceRhttps://media.8ch.net/file_store/84469ba88adfa3354edfc8d5b65a4c08671eeaa8d351e0915bf9a683ad560f51.webm   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqega6a2g6AMay 16 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aphex twin buys beer - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/qvc4j ]May 16 21:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864565406039658496May 16 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Plasma 5.10 Beta, Slicker Desktop https://t.co/RLoCrYy2sYMay 16 21:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/JJhRD6DP3TMay 16 21:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.10 Beta, Slicker Desktop | Tux MachinesMay 16 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Plasma 5.10 Beta, Slicker Desktop https://t.co/RLoCrYy2sY https://t.co/JJhRD6DP3TMay 16 21:30
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cubexyzI think Trump is finished May 16 23:18
cubexyzthe end is nearMay 16 23:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Did I miss something?May 16 23:19
XRevan86I'm mostly focusing on local news right now, they are pretty crazy :)May 16 23:19
cubexyzTrump was telling Comey to stop investigating FlynnMay 16 23:19
cubexyzkind of a big dealMay 16 23:19
XRevan86If he's an honest man, he has nothing to worry about, amarait?May 16 23:20
cubexyzhaMay 16 23:20
XRevan86Poroshenko decreed Ukraine needs to block big Russian websites like Yandex and VK.com. RF newschannels went crazy and now issue guidelines how to avoid the block.May 16 23:31
XRevan86The wildest thing here is that Internet censorship is in RF since 2012.May 16 23:31
XRevan86And power's relationship with block avoiding techniques was 360° just a few days ago.May 16 23:32
XRevan86What a lovely double-think.May 16 23:32
XRevan86Ukrainian citizens seem to not like the idea so I guess their government jumped the shark too.May 16 23:34
XRevan86I mean, like actually not like and not the usual "meh"May 16 23:36
cubexyzI hope we don't block yandexMay 17 00:04
cubexyzI still update openbsd 4.7 with itMay 17 00:05
XRevan86cubexyz: mirror.yandex.ru? A great mirror indeed.May 17 00:14
cubexyzyesMay 17 00:14
cubexyzall the other sites seem to always delete older stuffMay 17 00:15
XRevan86As a search engine Yandex has a lot of space.May 17 00:15
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/NQutRrA.jpgMay 17 06:18
MinceRlol @ russiaMay 17 06:18
MinceRthey believe only they have the right to block others?May 17 06:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864761679728459776May 17 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 BSD Leftovers https://t.co/Qq1HgZYpgdMay 17 09:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 09:37
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liberty_boxhttps://twitter.com/fflandro/status/864763637759692800May 17 09:48
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77May 17 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864761681074769921May 17 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Security Leftovers https://t.co/ofRQlhzlQhMay 17 10:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 10:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMay 17 10:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864795160697163777May 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Possible Protections To Take Against WannaCry RansomwareMay 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Attack https://t.co/IeYJ9D9tgZ (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Possible Protections To Take Against WannaCry Ransomware Attack | Tux MachinesMay 17 12:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Let's hope for a visit in London...'May 17 16:00
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Let's hope for a visit...'May 17 16:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @Cage_UK First they did...'May 17 16:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Is she allowed to visit abroad?'May 17 16:48
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It has already put similar people in...'May 17 16:51
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @UK_CAGE Before anyone focuses on ethnicity/allegation here,...'May 17 16:56
XRevan86https://i.imgur.com/6MIhZj4.gifvMay 17 16:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | hmmmMay 17 16:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864878350640193536May 17 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Building Linux-powered devices, part 1: Making myMay 17 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-only world a reality - Network WorldMay 17 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/IXTb920b5i (www.tuxmachines.org)May 17 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building Linux-powered devices, part 1: Making my Linux-only world a reality - Network World | Tux MachinesMay 17 17:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864878361272700928May 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available forMay 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS https://t.co/ZbQwfp9zpwMay 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/1kZUd1KMUUMay 17 17:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available for Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS | Tux MachinesMay 17 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: MATE 1.16.2 Desktop Environment Is Now Available for Ubuntu MATE 16.04.2 LTS https://t.co/ZbQwfp9zpw https://t.co/1kZUd1KMUUMay 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/864878374124113920May 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, BasedMay 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 on Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS https://t.co/ZGy3k51rh4May 17 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) https://t.co/F8OCaGZk2NMay 17 17:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, Based on Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS | Tux MachinesMay 17 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, Based on Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS https://t.co/ZGy3k51rh4 https://t.co/F8OCaGZk2NMay 17 17:21
*TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Emmabuntus 3 1.04 Linux Distro Officially Released, Based...'May 17 17:24
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/E9m4HA6.gifv   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/Cupmw )May 17 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMay 17 17:59
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MinceRhttps://9gag.com/gag/a2rggydMay 17 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux users while WannaCry ransomware spreads across the windows community - 9GAGMay 17 18:44
XRevan86https://linphone.org/desktop-4.0May 17 19:33
XRevan86> We are currently working on the development of our new Linphone Desktop application, Qt-based, with elegant and modern look and feel, and a lot of new features.May 17 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linphone.org | Linphone 4.0 for desktop is coming - open source VOIP ProjectMay 17 19:33
XRevan86Qt-based O_OMay 17 19:33
cubexyzit's not necessary to live in a linux-only world nor would I want toMay 17 20:46
cubexyzone needs three things: the hardware (simulated or real), the compiler, and the source codeMay 17 20:48
cubexyzI still look at CP/M, DMS, RT11, 4.3BSD (Quasijarus), and Plan 9May 17 20:50
cubexyzLGP used to port games to PPCMay 17 20:58
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/EYWofng.jpg   (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/22tKF )May 17 21:15
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cubexyztrump wanted Comey to jail journalistsMay 18 00:49
cubexyzso yeah, time to impeachMay 18 00:49
cubexyzit's turned into a farceMay 18 00:49
cubexyzok, I had some trouble with mint and systemd :-/May 18 00:54
cubexyzI put xautolock in xinitrc and it didn't work for some reasonMay 18 00:55
cubexyzended up using "nohup xautolock etc etc" in .bashrcMay 18 00:55
cubexyznot ideal, but at least it workedMay 18 00:55
XRevan86cubexyz: setsidMay 18 00:56
cubexyzit should have worked in /etc/rc.local at leastMay 18 00:58
cubexyzI forget the exact errorMay 18 00:58
cubexyzbut I'll have another look at it laterMay 18 00:59
XRevan86cubexyz: Does your distro have /etc/profile.d/ ?May 18 01:00
cubexyznormally in slackware I just add xautolock to /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrcMay 18 01:00
cubexyzXRevan86, not sure... that box is suspended at the momentMay 18 01:01
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah, I missed some stuff you wrote.May 18 01:01
XRevan86So, MintMay 18 01:01
cubexyzslack has /etc/profile.dMay 18 01:02
XRevan86cubexyz: Add a file to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/May 18 01:02
XRevan86that's the best wayMay 18 01:02
cubexyzokMay 18 01:02
cubexyznormally I change the WM stuff in xinitrc and put xautolock just before the WM stuffMay 18 01:03
XRevan86systemd has no problem with rc.local, in Debian derivatives it's read by default. But… X.org usually starts later, and I'm not sure it's even possible to execute X11 stuff from root when it's running from a user…May 18 01:03
XRevan86cubexyz: Debian has Xsession.d, it's the same thing.May 18 01:04
cubexyzI'm more used to the slackware way, but clearly it didn't work in mintMay 18 01:05
XRevan86cubexyz: Distros are allowed to have different ways of doing such stuff %)May 18 01:06
XRevan86The more I think about rc.local the sillier it seems. Like, how would one know the $XAUTHORITY from there even?May 18 01:06
XRevan86cubexyz: /etc/profile.d/ also should work in Debian but Xsession.d/ is still better for this case.May 18 01:07
cubexyzwell I was experimenting by that point :)May 18 01:08
cubexyzxinitrc should have workedMay 18 01:08
cubexyzbut who knows... maybe mint doesn't even use thatMay 18 01:08
cubexyzok, no X11 stuff in rc.local is a rule May 18 01:09
XRevan86https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession#ConfigurationMay 18 01:10
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cubexyzactually I'd rather have a non-X11 way to suspend on inactivity May 18 01:11
XRevan86You can also do ~/.xinitrc but that's for startxMay 18 01:11
XRevan86and something generic definitely shouldn't go there even if you want to startxMay 18 01:12
cubexyzif the user does ctrl-atl-f1 will that stop xautolock from suspending the system? I don't knowMay 18 01:12
cubexyzon slack and openbsd the system usually doesn't start X up automaticallyMay 18 01:13
XRevan86cubexyz: It won't, it'll count that time as idle even when the user is typing into the ttyMay 18 01:13
cubexyzinterestingMay 18 01:13
XRevan86and will lock the X serverMay 18 01:13
XRevan86Well, it only monitors the X11 display, y'know %)May 18 01:13
cubexyzyes, it is xautolock not autolock :)May 18 01:14
XRevan86everything outside counts as neither activity nor inactivityMay 18 01:14
cubexyzwell it's fine thoughMay 18 01:15
cubexyzI'd rather it did suspendMay 18 01:15
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm kinda puzzled, since you're mentioning MintMay 18 01:15
cubexyzcustomers use Mint so I have to know about itMay 18 01:16
XRevan86cubexyz: Why using xautolock when you have a complete DE?May 18 01:16
XRevan86and if you don't have a complete DE, why calling it Mint and not Ubuntu? %)May 18 01:16
XRevan86mate-screensaver and cinnamon-screensaver are quite capable.May 18 01:17
XRevan86kscreensaver tooMay 18 01:17
XRevan86And whatever Mint uses for Xfce. light-locker maybe?May 18 01:18
cubexyzright, well your comments are completely reasonable... probably just because I'm not that knowledgeable about mintMay 18 01:18
cubexyzand I could change from cinnamon-screensaver to icewm in the futureMay 18 01:19
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