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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Improvements, Performance Improvements Included | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Linux #Kernel Articles at #LWN (Paywall Expired) ...' | Jun 25 00:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 25 00:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:06 | |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 25 00:24 |
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| cubexyz | in the movie Snowden smuggles a microSD card via rubik's cube | Jun 25 00:25 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 00:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe Snowden could score me some Dell BIOS source code | Jun 25 00:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/878826538950684672 | Jun 25 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 25 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 25 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 25 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 25 00:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:28 | |
| cubexyz | and it seems Snowden BSed a bit about his resume | Jun 25 00:28 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWDuzOtpBiw | Jun 25 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Many microSD Cards Fit in a Rubik's Cube? - YouTube | Jun 25 02:41 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2540934.html | Jun 25 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Re: [vs-plain] Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas — Linux Kernel [ http://ur1.ca/r25ig ] | Jun 25 02:56 | |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 25 02:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://ijbswa.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ijbswa/current/acconfig.h?revision=1.48&view=markup | Jun 25 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijbswa.cvs.sourceforge.net | SourceForge.net Repository - [ijbswa] Contents of /current/acconfig.h [ http://ur1.ca/r25wl ] | Jun 25 03:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Ditch FEATURE_IMAGE_DETECT_MSIE | Jun 25 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's an obsolete workaround we inherited from Junkbuster | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | and was already disabled by default. | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | Users that feel the urge to work around issues with | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | image requests coming from an Internet Explorer version | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | from more than 15 years ago can still do this using tags. | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | LOL! | Jun 25 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | " * BEOS does not currently support POSIX threads." | Jun 25 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that it still doesn't. :) | Jun 25 03:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878887687561904128 | Jun 25 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by OSS Leftovers | Jun 25 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/xpqhhtGgt6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 25 04:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 04:11 | |
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| schestowitz | [05:25] <cubexyz> I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 04:18 |
| schestowitz | I think they just identified in him the mall or whatever in HK this way | Jun 25 04:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he used it to smuggle the data | Jun 25 04:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878888241629364224 | Jun 25 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft #Openwashing and Spin | Jun 25 04:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/0pNkFErKNh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 04:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing and Spin | Tux Machines | Jun 25 04:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878890534739300352 | Jun 25 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Jun 25 04:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/Bq0zzizYwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 25 04:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498 | Jun 25 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framapiaf.org | Framapiaf | Jun 25 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | "https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498" | Jun 25 04:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878891113284870145 | Jun 25 04:24 |
| schestowitz | techrights blocked in some places in France? | Jun 25 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 04:24 | |
| schestowitz | " Comparing to another traceroute that succeeds, I suspect it's the final node (204.68.122.43) that filters me out when I come from 176.182.10.*" | Jun 25 04:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=Tuxmachines.org | Jun 25 04:26 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Jun 25 04:26 |
| schestowitz | so maybe it's our side... | Jun 25 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tuxmachines.org - American Internet Services, LLC. In San Diego United States | IP-Tracker.org Lookup Locator [ http://ur1.ca/r26a4 ] | Jun 25 04:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878891796499189761 | Jun 25 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 24/6/2017: GNOME Music Improves, FreeBSD 11.1 Beta | Jun 25 04:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 3 https://t.co/3Xvdbb0CsP (techrights.org) | Jun 25 04:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/6/2017: GNOME Music Improves, FreeBSD 11.1 Beta 3 | Techrights | Jun 25 04:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878893513139785728 | Jun 25 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Freedom vs Free vs Open | Jun 25 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/rseNX04XNS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeesw | Jun 25 04:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Freedom vs Free vs Open | Tux Machines | Jun 25 04:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/esme35975435/status/878901000018337792 | Jun 25 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @esme35975435 in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 05:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878907235098927105 | Jun 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact | Jun 25 05:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XLCgnn7Yyk (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 25 05:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact | Tux Machines | Jun 25 05:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact https://t.co/XLCgnn7Yyk #security...' | Jun 25 06:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vinumrioja https://twitter.com/vinumrioja/status/878918644985737217 | Jun 25 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest VinumRioja! https://t.co/0QDegRz07K (paper.li) | Jun 25 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Thanks to @lavozdetarija @comprar_vino @tuxmachines #wine | Jun 25 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vino | Jun 25 06:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | VinumRioja | Jun 25 06:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878918726262849536 | Jun 25 06:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users | Jun 25 06:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 25 06:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users | Tux Machines | Jun 25 06:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users https://t.co/4OpeQrdE7Q #gnu #linux...' | Jun 25 06:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Liri – Loves me, loves me not … at all | Jun 25 07:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 25 07:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Liri – Loves me, loves me not … at all | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Liri – Loves me, loves me not …...' | Jun 25 07:03 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Theresa and her BFF across...' | Jun 25 07:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878934886446399488 | Jun 25 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian 9 Review: Stable Like Ever, Better Than Most | Jun 25 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8iDcdDoQmr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 07:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | review. | Jun 25 07:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9 Review: Stable Like Ever, Better Than Most | Tux Machines | Jun 25 07:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Respect is worship War is...' | Jun 25 08:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks He keeps choosing decent publications to put...' | Jun 25 09:39 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/geek-sleeping | Jun 25 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Geek-Sleeping | Jun 25 11:24 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/YqOPjl7 | Jun 25 11:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks He keeps choosing decent publications...' | Jun 25 11:40 | |
| schestowitz | nice! | Jun 25 11:59 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/hN4YX | Jun 25 12:00 |
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| MinceR | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00308.html | Jun 25 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading | Jun 25 13:06 | |
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| MinceR | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/australia-to-target-encrypted-messaging-apps-at-upcoming-security-meeting/ | Jun 25 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Australia advocates weakening strong crypto at upcoming “Five Eyes” meeting | Ars Technica | Jun 25 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Jun 25 14:08 |
| schestowitz | typical fieve eyes | Jun 25 14:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879040243931938816 | Jun 25 14:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 25 14:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879045294087864321 | Jun 25 14:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #KStars, #Qt in #Debian, #KDE #Plasma 5 Regional | Jun 25 14:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Settings Format, #Krita and More #GSoC Work | Jun 25 14:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cqdDL67KdD (www.tuxmachines.org) #google | Jun 25 14:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: KStars, Qt in Debian, KDE Plasma 5 Regional Settings Format, Krita and More GSoC Work | Tux Machines | Jun 25 14:37 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-last-one | Jun 25 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Last One | Jun 25 14:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879045740907180032 | Jun 25 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE: #KStars, #Qt in #Debian, #KDE #Plasma 5 Regional | Jun 25 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Settings Format, #Krita and More #GSoC Work | Jun 25 14:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 25 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HamishTMB on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 25 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 25 14:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 25 14:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 14:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959465#post959465 | Jun 25 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 15:07 | |
| DaemonFC | "More like dangerous to run Debian. You're telling me that I'm supposed to run this crap on a production system and disable one of the biggest perks of having a Core i7? HAHA! No. Their refusal to ship device firmware is really stupid. The whole reason we have firmware is to avoid precisely this kind of situation. | Jun 25 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | Back in the 90s when Intel processors didn't have replaceable firmware, things like the Pendtium FDIV and F00F bugs required removing the processor and sending it to Intel for a replacement. | Jun 25 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | The processors that misbehave under Debian won't misbehave under Fedora, because Fedora ships and updates linux-firmware quite often. Also, my wifi works. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny how Debian goes to all this trouble to be "Free", but then they package things like Widevine, Flash, RAR, etc. and just say that it's not officially part of Debian. The FSF has Debian on the non-recommended list of distributions even though Debian policy makes it much harder than necessary to set your computer up properly and most people end up figuring out a way to get the firmware anyway because they have devices that don't | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | work without it. There is no functional difference, spare a little disk space used, of making available and pre-installing the firmware, since if you don't have the device, it will never get loaded, and few (if any) users want their computer to be non-functional in some way if it's missing. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is actually more Free by the FSF's own guidelines than Debian is. While Fedora ships firmware, the FSF would declare Debian non-Free for suggesting the firmware or making it available, which it does, but Fedora does not suggest, pre-install, or make available the non-Free software that is hosted by Debian. They don't stop you from installing it yourself from RPM Fusion and they don't try to break it (which would make an operating | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | system non-Free if it did), but RPM Fusion is another project that is not made available by default or recommended by the Fedora project websites. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | While there is some effort to set Fedora up, critical hardware isn't broken out-of-the-box simply due to lack of firmware. Debian has picked some odd policies and it continues to do so. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Also, after a while, Debian Stable becomes crusty enough that it won't work properly on new-ish hardware. Not only is the kernel Linux that it ships with sufficiently old that it still has a bunch of Skylake behavior that will make your laptop less efficient and will run down your battery, they insist on breaking the wifi chip until you can install the iwlwifi firmware (which is more of a pain because modern laptops don't have ethernet | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | ports!), *and* to top it off, if you don't disable Hyperthreading, then certain Skylake processors will malfunction on Debian unless the manufacturer releases a new BIOS, which, guess what, probably only installs if you have Windows(!) all because Debian won't ship firmware for the kernel to replace on boot to solve things like this, like a sane OS does. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even consider Debian. The people making their policies are braindead. There shouldn't be a struggle to set up a modern operating system. Sure, there are things to install and settings to tweak in Fedora, but it's not effing broken right out of the gate. | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I pretty much use Fedora because on other distributions my laptop is somewhat broken and finding out why or fixing it robs me of the time that I could be using my computer. If I ever want Long Term Stable, I'll go with CentOS. Whenever 8 is out, I guess. You could conceivably install CentOS and never have to do a distribution upgrade again. It's supported for longer than a Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS, and it gets feature and | Jun 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | driver backports." | Jun 25 15:08 |
| schestowitz | ta | Jun 25 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, TL;DR: The Debian policies are nonsensical, break hardware, and burden the user, and they're still not FSF Free. | Jun 25 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | So they have nothing to show for it except another spot on the list of operating systems that the FSF does not recommend. It has to be even more broken than out-of-box Debian for them to get behind it. | Jun 25 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | The FSF was recommending Nvidia cards for a while because of Nouveau reverse engineering the firmware, but then Nvidia stepped in and made their non-Free firmware redistributable, so Nouveau users get that now. | Jun 25 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | On older cards too, because the reverse engineered firmware didn't always set up the card properly. | Jun 25 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia still isn't assisting Nouveau to the level that Intel or AMD assist the Free driver projects. | Jun 25 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia gives them some firmware blobs and minimal documentation on how to setup the cards. Some information defining registers, etc. It's nothing that you could make a driver that competes with Nvidia proprietary from. | Jun 25 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | They consider Nouveau to be a broken stub driver like NV was until you get around to installing theirs. | Jun 25 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | By the time Nouveau works as well as theirs does, the hardware is 5-6 years old. | Jun 25 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's proprietary driver has a bunch of cases where if you are using OpenGL properly, it's slooooooow, so video game publishers just code for the Nvidia driver now and tell AMD/Intel users to fuck right off. | Jun 25 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Civilization 6 does that. | Jun 25 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | There are other games competing for my money though, so by coding for Nvidia only, they're losing their opportunity. | Jun 25 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959470#post959470 | Jun 25 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 15:34 | |
| DaemonFC | "AMD has had nasty bugs too. Remember the original Phenom? They disabled TLB and made the processors slower, like, by double digit (10-20%) percentages. | Jun 25 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | So you had a choice. If you weren't running into the problem, you could choose not to update your BIOS, and if you were affected and wanted to do something to avoid triggering it, it was like a major processor downgrade. | Jun 25 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | You can read about the bugs that end up affecting AMD processors because they publish them in Erratum. They're really intended to document the problems for people like Linux kernel developers, so they fly under the radar usually, but there are a lot of them. | Jun 25 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | Like with Intel, most can be fixed, but only if you run newer firmware, which Debian won't include. So under Debian, you're basically running with the firmware that the BIOS loaded when the computer booted up, regardless of if it's broken and by how much. | Jun 25 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these bugs end up creating security vulnerabilities, so even if you run a fully patched Debian, without the firmware updates, you aren't getting the fixes applied to the firmware by the hardware vendor." | Jun 25 15:35 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, intel's list of cpus their firmware update applies to omits all i7s | Jun 25 15:35 |
| MinceR | also i3, i5 and i9 | Jun 25 15:37 |
| MinceR | but who uses those, right? | Jun 25 15:37 |
| MinceR | and lenovo, in their infinite wisdom, removed the bios setup option where you could disable ht | Jun 25 15:38 |
| MinceR | because nobody could ever possibly have any reason to do so | Jun 25 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=2017-Linux-Laptop-Survey-Early | Jun 25 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Early Look At Our 2017 Linux Laptop Survey Results So Far - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2bcn ] | Jun 25 15:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I filled out the laptop survey | Jun 25 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like 90% of people who end up running Linux who answered the survey got there by nuking Windows and installing Linux after the fact. | Jun 25 15:39 |
| MinceR | that's a lot of people who use gnu/linux and yet are willing to hand information to a site that is openly hostile to gnu/linux | Jun 25 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora was at 14%. | Jun 25 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu at 39%. Really? Ubuntu is hell. | Jun 25 15:40 |
| MinceR | ah yes, the "i wish i was using windows" distros | Jun 25 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I get weird bugs caused by their broken patches. | Jun 25 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | > docs.google.com | Jun 25 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | yeah, right | Jun 25 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can't be the only one that happens to. | Jun 25 15:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, ubuntu sucsk | Jun 25 15:41 |
| MinceR | s/sk/ks/ | Jun 25 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | "Lenovo was the most popular laptop brand at 40%." | Jun 25 15:41 |
| MinceR | they patched systray support out of Liferea even though it was already optional | Jun 25 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to fight like hell just to get them to release a BIOS that allowed me to install Linux to the SSD on this computer. | Jun 25 15:41 |
| MinceR | doing extra work just to screw the user! | Jun 25 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're back at it apparently, releasing BIOSes with RAID lock. | Jun 25 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, Ubuntu is so fucked that Kubuntu had to make an indicators plasma widget in the system tray to support applications that Ubuntu had patched systray support out of. | Jun 25 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | Which means that the KDE apps use systray and the rest use indicators, and Kubuntu put in a kludge so that they can deal with that without the user noticing. | Jun 25 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't get why people use Ubuntu. | Jun 25 15:43 |
| MinceR | same reason they use other lendows distros | Jun 25 15:44 |
| MinceR | they like to suffer | Jun 25 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's this large and growing and increasingly profitable business and it's still acting like it's someone's Kickstarter project that shames you into donating to it. | Jun 25 15:44 |
| MinceR | if people had a clue, it would not be profitable | Jun 25 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It actually has a donation page on the download links that asks you to donate. They support Paypal and Bitcoin and Flattr and a bunch of others. | Jun 25 15:45 |
| MinceR | but apparently fucking things up is the biggest business in our society | Jun 25 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I suppose people are actually just funding broken NIH crap that eventually crawls into a corner and dies. | Jun 25 15:45 |
| MinceR | if only it died | Jun 25 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | None of the software that Ubuntu developed itself succeeded. | Jun 25 15:46 |
| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/1246134916.jpg | Jun 25 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Amazon crapware actually provoked one reviewer, don't remember who, to comment "This is like getting a new PC with Windows and having to immediately figure out how to uninstall the bloatware.". | Jun 25 15:46 |
| MinceR | that's easy, they didn't develop much | Jun 25 15:47 |
| MinceR | they'll go with the atrocious choices debian makes, knowing they're atrocious, just to avoid doing a bit of work | Jun 25 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They've actually had a lot of big and failed projects. | Jun 25 15:47 |
| MinceR | not big enough | Jun 25 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart, Unity, Mir, Unity 8 (never saw the light of day), indicators... | Jun 25 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | Snappy will fail too. | Jun 25 15:47 |
| MinceR | well, i guess they're bigger than "just switch upstream to devuan" | Jun 25 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They were paying a team of developers to create all these dead end projects. | Jun 25 15:48 |
| MinceR | so i really don't get these people | Jun 25 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually Shuttleworth decided that he wanted to be let up for air and canceled them to save himself money. | Jun 25 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Mir and Unity 8 made no sense to continue. Without Ubuntu on devices, they're pouring hundreds of thousandss of dollars into Unity 8 to put on people's desktops for free? | Jun 25 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | That won't work. | Jun 25 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their goal all along has been to subvert standards and destroy consensus. | Jun 25 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | They mask it with their "Code of Conduct" and whatnot. | Jun 25 15:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 25 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CoreOS and OpenStack News | Tux Machines | Jun 25 15:51 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was actually kind of funny. Some other distributions tried to package and support Unity and they gave up because it would require breaking a ton of other software or patching things like indicators out of Unity. | Jun 25 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879064376808001537 | Jun 25 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry | Jun 25 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 15:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 15:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879064614750834691 | Jun 25 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/X2EAU6IHaw | Jun 25 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 15:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 25 15:53 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So, what are they doing with Gnome. They said they're dropping "hundreds" of patches that were there to support Unity, but there's already a "unity-session" in Ubuntu 17.10 that is still in Main, and it brings in Unity 7. | Jun 25 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're stuck supporting Unity 7 at least until 16.04 LTS is out of support in 2021, so might as well make it available, I guess, but it can probably only decay out of the context of 16.04. | Jun 25 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Newer Gnome software will be brought in on newer releases and eventually Unity is going to fall apart. | Jun 25 15:57 |
| MinceR | 25 215127 < DaemonFC> I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 16:00 |
| MinceR | some people do take that inside, though | Jun 25 16:00 |
| MinceR | it just needs a helpful "microsoft", "apple" or "red hat" logo | Jun 25 16:00 |
| MinceR | that's all it takes | Jun 25 16:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 16:00 | |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> hmm some of those linux shipping laptops do look pretty cool.. too bad they only support linux | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> My minecraft video hasn't got good bit of views.. | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> Maybe i should just give a few more days before making a new video.. | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> KtecK, Maybe get one from LOL NO! Vo that only supports Windows? | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> They're back at it again with sabotaged BIOSes that lock you to "RAID". | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Makes it impossible to install Linux unless they go back and fix it at some point. | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> I've started recommending the Dell XPS Developer Edition or System76 because at least you know it boots Ubuntu, which gives you a way in to install Fedora. :) | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> The XPS Developer Edition that supports Linux is about the same price as a similarly configured LOL NO! Vo with the BIOS locked to prevent Linux. | Jun 25 16:02 |
| MinceR | my favorite kind of RAID is the one that's built from 1 device | Jun 25 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jun 25 16:02 |
| MinceR | all the XPS Developer Edition lacks is build quality and warranty support | Jun 25 16:03 |
| MinceR | but i guess some people don't need that | Jun 25 16:03 |
| MinceR | maybe you can restrain the lid with a board nailed to the wall so the hinges being total garbage won't matter | Jun 25 16:04 |
| MinceR | just don't move it. ever. | Jun 25 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> LOL NO! Vo's favorite "RAID" is one that is built around one storage device to trick Windows into loading a power management policy from Intel because there's no other way to do a driver override on Crap OS. | Jun 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Maybe in some future mandatory upgrade and randome reboot funtime. | Jun 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | I stole that from MinceR | Jun 25 16:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/compatibilism | Jun 25 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Compatibilism | Jun 25 16:05 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> What? You lost $40,000 of scientific research to Windows 10? Should have read the EULA! | Jun 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Oh no! All of your Azure Red Hat instances got blue pilled? Do the EULA HULA! | Jun 25 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/24/microsoft_windows_10_update/ | Jun 25 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | 'Windows 10 destroyed our data!' Microsoft hauled into US court • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/r2bls ] | Jun 25 16:08 | |
| DaemonFC | The complaint [PDF], filed in Chicago's US District Court on Thursday, charges that Microsoft Windows 10 is a defective product and that its maker failed to provide adequate warning about the potential risks posed by Windows 10 installation – specifically system stability and data loss. | Jun 25 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft "failed to exercise reasonable care in designing, formulating, and manufacturing the Windows 10 upgrade and placing it into the stream of commerce," the complaint claims. "As a result of its failure to exercise reasonable care, [the company] distributed an operating system that was liable to cause loss of data or damage to hardware." | Jun 25 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | The attorneys representing the trio are seeking to have the case certified as a class action that includes every person in the US who upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and suffered data loss or damage to software or hardware within 30 days of installation. They claim there are hundreds or thousands of affected individuals. | Jun 25 16:09 |
| MinceR | the warning was there | Jun 25 16:11 |
| MinceR | it said "Microsoft" right on the box! | Jun 25 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A man was killed by the CTA Pride Train. | Jun 25 16:16 |
| MinceR | what's that? | Jun 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | It was approaching Sox-35th when a man riding his bicycle on the platform lost his balance and fell over onto the tracks. | Jun 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | The rainbow colored train that CTA has for Chicago's Pride festival. | Jun 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when people ride their bikes on the platform. It's not even allowed. | Jun 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, he died so he won't be doing that again. | Jun 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | natural selection | Jun 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | it's good that they sometimes still allow it to function | Jun 25 16:18 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/iXKqW | Jun 25 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-how to find out if your the father - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 16:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/OsanaGp/status/879066810406064133 | Jun 25 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @OsanaGp #WannaCry | Jun 25 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 16:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 16:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 16:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 16:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RandellSands retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 16:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CoreMedNetwork favourited 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 16:25 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/comely http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496933348-20170608after.png | Jun 25 16:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Comely | Jun 25 16:29 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464732 | Jun 25 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464732 – Gnome fails to start when SELinux boolean deny_execmem is turned on. | Jun 25 16:46 | |
| MinceR | at least it saves you from the pain of having to endure gnome | Jun 25 16:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm. | Jun 25 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | That's strange. | Jun 25 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trying to reproduce the broken PART messages in Pidgin for a bug report. | Jun 25 16:55 |
| MinceR | lol, pidgin | Jun 25 16:55 |
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| DaemonFC1 | Strange. | Jun 25 16:56 |
| ---DaemonFC1 is now known as DaemonFC | Jun 25 16:56 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/US2wA | Jun 25 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Last one I promise - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 16:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't make it do it now. | Jun 25 16:57 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 25 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, With the IRC Helper and IRC More plugins, it's a decent client. | Jun 25 16:57 |
| MinceR | yeah, i can see :> | Jun 25 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | Oh wow, somebody uses Pidgin for IRC but me. | Jun 25 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | At least I know I'm mad :). | Jun 25 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in Hexchat right now. | Jun 25 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully someone ports it to GTK+ 3 at some point. | Jun 25 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Pidgin 3.x (git master) is Gtk3 only. | Jun 25 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | oops, hg master | Jun 25 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | confused it for gajim for a moment, which migrated to git :) | Jun 25 17:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RandellSands favourited 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 17:01 | |
| DaemonFC | The way Xchat supported Windows was pretty weird. | Jun 25 17:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac#configure.ac-57 die proof | Jun 25 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket | Jun 25 17:02 | |
| XRevan86 | * https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac?fileviewer=file-view-default#configure.ac-573 | Jun 25 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket [ http://ur1.ca/r2bzu ] | Jun 25 17:02 | |
| MinceR | s/weird/shitty and illegal/ | Jun 25 17:02 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Jun 25 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Zed stripped a bunch of stuff out of GTK+ that Xchat wasn't using and called it MikiGTK and linked to that. | Jun 25 17:02 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Were MikiGTK sources available? | Jun 25 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/ seems so | Jun 25 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xchat.org | Index of /files/binary/win32/mini-src [ http://ur1.ca/r2c0a ] | Jun 25 17:04 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why illegal? | Jun 25 17:04 |
| MinceR | because the latest version of xchat was always proprietary | Jun 25 17:04 |
| MinceR | even though the sources they used were copyleft | Jun 25 17:04 |
| MinceR | the sources released were always at least 1 version behind | Jun 25 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe the author was the sole owner of the thing | Jun 25 17:05 |
| MinceR | afaik he wasn't | Jun 25 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | Why wouldn't he… unless he's ignorant about how things work | Jun 25 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | Oh well, it's all in the past :). Vivu HexChat | Jun 25 17:08 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/spandrels http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497013224-20170609after.png | Jun 25 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Spandrels [ http://ur1.ca/r2c1v ] | Jun 25 17:08 | |
| MinceR | because he's like cisco | Jun 25 17:08 |
| MinceR | the rules don't apply to him | Jun 25 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with the GPL is that many copyright holders don't assert their rights. | Jun 25 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | So violators don't have any reason to be concerned. | Jun 25 17:09 |
| MinceR | yes, that's one of the problems with the GPL | Jun 25 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | Happens with Linux all the time. | Jun 25 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's never Linux copyright holders that sue, it's Busybox. | Jun 25 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | and now proprietary distribution makers have toybox, what a joy | Jun 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why Sony started Toybox. So they can keep violating the license on Linux and other stuff and the Busybox people can't sue them. | Jun 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that. | Jun 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Linux license is a paper tiger. | Jun 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, it may as well be licensed BSD. | Jun 25 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Although many companies comply because they are concerned about what might happen if they don't. | Jun 25 17:11 |
| MinceR | but then we wouldn't get the downsides of GPL | Jun 25 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one case where Matthew Garrett did enforce his rights. | Jun 25 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Against the MPAA, which was illegally distributing Xubuntu. | Jun 25 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There are no downsiders if one ignores the licence. | Jun 25 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | downsides* | Jun 25 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | They rigged it up into spyware that universities were supposed to install so the MPAA could monitor their network. | Jun 25 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | He got them to take it down. | Jun 25 17:12 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that would only be true if one was alone in the universe | Jun 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: upsides and downsides exist only if the licensing is relevant | Jun 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | and if it is, then GPL has many upsides | Jun 25 17:14 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: different people and organizations have different views on whether licensing is relevant | Jun 25 17:14 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ironically, Tom Callaway complains about Google..... | Jun 25 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Specifically that they fork a bunch of libraries and then include a changes.chromium file. | Jun 25 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | He said "It's better than nothing.". At the same time, Red Hat releases source RPMs of their Linux kernel without any explanation of what they've done. | Jun 25 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Says "Don't worry about it. You don't need to know. Just compile it." | Jun 25 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody knows the recipe for the RHEL kernel. | Jun 25 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | The entire source code is available, but it would take forever to figure out what patches were applied to it. | Jun 25 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | This is another example of why the GPL is not sufficient. | Jun 25 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | It should have required not just the source, but the patches broken out. | Jun 25 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | The GPL 3 doesn't even correct this. | Jun 25 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | So the RHEL kernel is a proprietary secret. | Jun 25 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Even with the GPL fully complied with. | Jun 25 17:39 |
| MinceR | ratcrap, masters of working around the GPL | Jun 25 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is one of the top contributors to the kernel Linux upstream. | Jun 25 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | But no upstream kernel gives you exactly what RHEL does. | Jun 25 17:40 |
| MinceR | like m$? | Jun 25 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Microsoft was for like one or two releases because the Hyper-V code was a massive commit and then it was so shitty that it took thousands of patches to get it promoted out of Staging. | Jun 25 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | So that was a fluke, and it's something that will only ever benefit Microsoft running Linux under Hyper-V on Windows. | Jun 25 17:41 |
| MinceR | yet i keep hearing how great contributors they are | Jun 25 17:42 |
| MinceR | even though i've seen their code and it's even shittier than red hat's | Jun 25 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the Windows 10 source leaked the other day. | Jun 25 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT4-Linux-4.13-Work | Jun 25 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXT4 Is Working On A "Large Directory" Option, Parallel Discards - Phoronix | Jun 25 17:44 | |
| DaemonFC | At what point should this be forked off into an Ext5? | Jun 25 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | The work on getting discard performance improved is probably the most important of the new features, and that SHOULD go into Ext4. | Jun 25 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | The discard performance on Ext4 is so horrible right now that distributions ship it off by default and you have to run a fstrim manually (or as a cron job) every so often. | Jun 25 17:47 |
| MinceR | i've seen some of the hype-V code | Jun 25 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe if parallel discard lands in 4.13, I can change my mount option to add discard. | Jun 25 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | No way I'm mounting it like that now. | Jun 25 17:48 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there is a fault in ext file systems base structure relating to time being no 64 bit time with ext3 it was extended to 48 bit time. 48bit time is the limit of ext file system structures. | Jun 25 17:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so at time point ext file system has to be replaced with something with a different structure. | Jun 25 17:57 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/wn6UyDm | Jun 25 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 25 17:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 25 18:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 25 18:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:08 | |
| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HT-Bug-KBL095 that is a nasty bug. | Jun 25 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2cm0 ] | Jun 25 18:12 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: discussed here earlier | Jun 25 18:16 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: even that is being fixed with microcode shows that the isolation between hyperthreads is software not hardware. | Jun 25 18:21 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so really nasty bug. | Jun 25 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879103682591305728 | Jun 25 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UltimateEdition 5.5 Linux Distro Out Now Based on | Jun 25 18:29 |
| cubexyz | http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/calling-earth-a-loser-trump-vows-to-make-better-deal-with-new-planet | Jun 25 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) | Jun 25 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | Calling Earth a “Loser,” Trump Vows to Make Better Deal with New Planet | The New Yorker | Jun 25 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8LV8JMyPjW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 18:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ultimate Edition 5.5 Linux Distro Out Now Based on Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:29 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, favours FOSS | Jun 25 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | I made a long post about copyrights on Facebook. | Jun 25 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | I ended it with... | Jun 25 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | "It's pretty funny. They put out movies that are such crap, like the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie, which got 29% on Rotten Tomatoes, and then they blame people who got a CAM copy on BitTorrent for the revenue woes caused by their shitty box office bomb." | Jun 25 18:37 |
| cubexyz | I prefer to say five eyes = opabinia :) | Jun 25 18:39 |
| MinceR | opabinia? | Jun 25 18:39 |
| cubexyz | extinct arthropod from around 450 million years ago | Jun 25 18:40 |
| cubexyz | I guess "Cambrian Stage 3" is the term these days | Jun 25 18:40 |
| MinceR | oh, i didn't know it had 5 eyes | Jun 25 18:40 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Opabinia_BW2.jpg | Jun 25 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Opabinia BW2.jpg - Wikipedia | Jun 25 18:41 | |
| MinceR | didn't even recall the name | Jun 25 18:41 |
| MinceR | even though i looked at it recently | Jun 25 18:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I am trying to remember the movie that was mostly watched because it was so bad. | Jun 25 18:41 |
| MinceR | Ed Wood movies? | Jun 25 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | Plan 9 | Jun 25 18:42 |
| MinceR | ...being one of them :> | Jun 25 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that was the name of an academic research successor to UNIX from Bell Labs. | Jun 25 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Plan 9 from Bell Labs | Jun 25 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Then there was the port of the Plan 9 userspace to POSIX systems. | Jun 25 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | They called it Plan 9 from Userspace. :) | Jun 25 18:43 |
| cubexyz | rather deadish these days I'm afraid | Jun 25 18:43 |
| MinceR | the movie was Plan 9 from Outer Space, though | Jun 25 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. | Jun 25 18:43 |
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| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Some of Plan 9's ideas were later added to Linux. | Jun 25 18:44 |
| cubexyz | inferno was the successor | Jun 25 18:44 |
| oiaohm | http://www.slashfilm.com/the-worst-reviewed-highest-grossing-movie-of-all-time reviews and movie success does not line up. | Jun 25 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashfilm.com | The Worst Reviewed Highest Grossing Movies Of All-Time – /Film [ http://ur1.ca/r2cvf ] | Jun 25 18:44 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: maybe the issue is not enough hate. | Jun 25 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs#Impact | Jun 25 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Plan 9 from Bell Labs - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r2cvl ] | Jun 25 18:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Eric S. Raymond said of Plan 9, "[I]t looks like Plan 9 failed simply because it fell short of being a compelling enough improvement on Unix to displace its ancestor. Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good | Jun 25 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | enough." | Jun 25 18:45 |
| cubexyz | yeah there was Glendix and xv6 | Jun 25 18:46 |
| cubexyz | xv6 crashed though | Jun 25 18:46 |
| MinceR | i also didn't find plan9's windowing system compelling enough | Jun 25 18:46 |
| cubexyz | Glendix looks interesting though | Jun 25 18:46 |
| cubexyz | http://www.glendix.org/ | Jun 25 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.glendix.org | Glendix: Bringing the beauty of Plan 9 to Linux | Jun 25 18:46 | |
| cubexyz | the thing is, if you stick with plan 9 the userspace is quite old | Jun 25 18:47 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 25 18:47 |
| cubexyz | you probably wouldn't like browsing the web with abaco | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SecurityNews6/status/879107964568600576 | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SecurityNews6 #WannaCry | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:48 | |
| MinceR | can it not run GNU stuff beside the plan9 stuff? | Jun 25 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879109062482436096 | Jun 25 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Stable Kernels and Upcoming #Kernel Features | Jun 25 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VUtRAG02qP (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gpl | Jun 25 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #amdgpu #ext4 #xpad | Jun 25 18:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 18:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Stable Kernels and Upcoming Kernel Features | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:50 | |
| cubexyz | I would think so, but I've never tried Glendix | Jun 25 18:50 |
| cubexyz | probably easy enough to port it | Jun 25 18:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Glendix has not been touched in 8 years. | Jun 25 18:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.inferno-os.info/inferno/ its mostly inferno allowing its applications to run on top of other OSs. | Jun 25 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inferno-os.info | Inferno | Jun 25 18:52 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/23/bofh_2017_episode_8/ | Jun 25 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Putting the commitment into committee • The Register | Jun 25 18:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older | Jun 25 18:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DXRnnWs7Sb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 25 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 18:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Design Tools, Nageru, Obnam, VP9, and Older Articles | Tux Machines | Jun 25 18:56 | |
| DaemonFC | From one of my Facebook posts: | Jun 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | "What does Microsoft have? A PC industry that's in deep decline and an operating system with so much spyware (Windows 10) that it literally sends every one of your keystrokes to Microsoft, and which forces broken upgrades on you whether you want them or not, and decides to reboot your computer whenever it wants (frequently). | Jun 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | A Windows PC market where OEMs often sandbag their own computers with 35+ individual pieces of bloatware that the user must figure out how to get rid of. | Jun 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | A Windows PC market where Microsoft so wants to hang on to users that become disgusted with their product that it literally pays sleazy OEMs like Lenovo to make Linux installations impossible. | Jun 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 is so rotten that there's a case against Microsoft making its way through a federal court in Chicago that might gain class action status." | Jun 25 18:56 |
| cubexyz | I didn't like how the terminal worked in plan 9 | Jun 25 18:56 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think mIcrosoft's time is over | Jun 25 18:57 |
| MinceR | it's either that or the IT industry's time is over | Jun 25 18:57 |
| cubexyz | people want off the M$ train | Jun 25 18:57 |
| MinceR | m$ and their buddies will kill the whole thing if we don't kill them first | Jun 25 18:58 |
| cubexyz | the thing is, people don't really know enough about their hardware | Jun 25 19:00 |
| MinceR | and m$, crApple and intel are willing to do whatever it takes to make it stay that way, too | Jun 25 19:00 |
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| cubexyz | btw windows 7 won't run on a chromebook | Jun 25 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879112290116808706 | Jun 25 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a | Jun 25 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keylogger (EEE) | Jun 25 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/d5sPvvHUen (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 19:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee #suse #gnu #linux | Jun 25 19:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a Keylogger (EEE) | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:01 | |
| cubexyz | something to do with the firmware | Jun 25 19:01 |
| cubexyz | not that I'm worried about that, just why exactly it didn't work might be interesting | Jun 25 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | Me (part of a Reddit post): "I don't even consider Debian. The people making their policies are braindead. They ship without firmware and then stand there like the retarded stepchild when computers malfunction because of it. There shouldn't be a struggle to set up a modern operating system." | Jun 25 19:03 |
| cubexyz | really I blame intel for that, not debian | Jun 25 19:03 |
| cubexyz | too much funny stuff going on these days | Jun 25 19:04 |
| cubexyz | there was some warning not that long ago about the newest intel and AMD CPUs only working on windows 10 | Jun 25 19:06 |
| cubexyz | talk about lock-in | Jun 25 19:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older...' | Jun 25 19:06 | |
| cubexyz | but maybe it was just some unknowledgeable journalist | Jun 25 19:06 |
| cubexyz | there's no question microsoft is trying to get everyone on win10 | Jun 25 19:07 |
| cubexyz | like kaby lake is win10 only | Jun 25 19:08 |
| cubexyz | looks like linux is fine on kaby lake though | Jun 25 19:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: debian policy on firmware is not 100 brain dead. How to fix the firmware problem properly is the bigger issue. Remember some of the hardware fails we have with Linux is bit of hardware in laptop was dud so oem had custom firmware made and that was only ever in the windows driver. | Jun 25 19:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course loading a generic firmware into a device needing a custom equals miss behavour. | Jun 25 19:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: we really do need the device maker to provide a tested firmware set for a system. | Jun 25 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Microsoft says "Skylake requires Windows 10". | Jun 25 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Funny, because I'm not running Windows anything right now. | Jun 25 19:12 |
| oiaohm | Skylake to half behave requires 4.10 Linux kernel or newer. | Jun 25 19:13 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of changes in skylake that break OS kernel. Now that microcode one was not helping. | Jun 25 19:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: DaemonFC https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.html note what is in the skylake manual and it in the kabylake as well. If cpu does not use low power states is life span will be shortened. | Jun 25 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Skylake's power management under Linux is dreadful and you shouldn't buy one until it's fixed | Jun 25 19:19 | |
| oiaohm | Caution: Long term reliability cannot be assured unless all the Low-Power Idle States are enabled. << This is not want you want to find in a CPU manual. | Jun 25 19:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879117199558021121 | Jun 25 19:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Articles | Jun 25 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DXRnnWs7Sb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 25 19:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Design Tools, Nageru, Obnam, VP9, and Older Articles | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Mine uses all the way up to pc8. | Jun 25 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | His post was about Linux 4.5. | Jun 25 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm using 4.11. | Jun 25 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | It probably was broken as hell back then. | Jun 25 19:25 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: 4.10 is when the power management comes in. 4.5 running the Linux kernel was progressively killing the chip. | Jun 25 19:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: its also why running old versions of windows on the newer chips is strictly out. | Jun 25 19:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course other than in a virtual machine where the host is running the power management. | Jun 25 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959502#post959502 | Jun 25 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 19:48 | |
| DaemonFC | They ship without firmware and then stand there like the retarded stepchild when computers malfunction because of it. You think you're not running "non-free microcode" because you don't have the Debian package installed? WRONG! You're just running an old version with bugs as loaded by your BIOS! Debian's policies mean that unless the user configures their computer the way Debian should have done it, then this FIXED bug could be provoked and | Jun 25 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | result in a disaster complete with data loss. | Jun 25 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Review of Debian 9: Broken Broken Broken Stupid Stupid Stupid. Full Stop. | Jun 25 19:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879117897666371584 | Jun 25 19:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Keylogger (EEE) | Jun 25 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/d5sPvvHUen (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee #suse #gnu #linux | Jun 25 19:50 |
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| DaemonFC | I know that Debian supports a lot of architectures that aren't very important in the grand scheme of things (I mean, up until recently, if you wanted to dust off your PowerPC Mac from when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and have Debian stop to fix issues with it as if it was as important as x86, you found your distro), but probably upwards of 90% use it on x86, and most distributions don't even support more than x86 and maybe a few arm devices. | Jun 25 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has even de-prioritized 32-bit x86 to the point where problems that only affect that version don't get to block a release. | Jun 25 20:03 |
| cubexyz | I want 32-bit support | Jun 25 20:07 |
| cubexyz | I got a ton of 32-bit computers | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Thank goodness we have Debian and Ubuntu so all of the stupid can be safely tucked away in two distros. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the evil too (Ubuntu). | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting harder to support x86-32 because the hardware is just so old. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially the graphics cards from that era. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| cubexyz | Ubuntu is not ideal, but it's still better than win10 | Jun 25 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | We're running out of maintainers who have access to said hardware. | Jun 25 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hard time figuring out if it works in some cases. | Jun 25 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hardware support gradually degrades until you pull the plug. | Jun 25 20:09 |
| cubexyz | there should be 32-bit testing at least | Jun 25 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | You *can* install Fedora as 32-bit, but it's not exactly top priority if you run into trouble. | Jun 25 20:10 |
| cubexyz | and it's an open question how long a semiconductor-based computers can last | Jun 25 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | For Fedora it makes little sense to worry about 32-bit because Red Hat dropped it. | Jun 25 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | If 32-bit x86 really matters to you, well (1) the clock is ticking and (2) sooner or later you're going to have to pick the latest long term distro release that supported it and never upgrade again. | Jun 25 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | I think there will maybe be one more Ubuntu LTS that supports it, but don't plan on it. | Jun 25 20:11 |
| cubexyz | I already do my own upgrades and backports | Jun 25 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | By 2020 (two LTS releases out) 32-bit x86 will make no sense at all. | Jun 25 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | They had Fedora Legacy for a while. | Jun 25 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | It ended because they were supporting too many releases at once and most people want the latest Fedora release anyway. | Jun 25 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | I think at the time they ended it, they were supporting like 5 Fedora releases and three old versions of Red Hat Linux as well. | Jun 25 20:14 |
| cubexyz | well, there's still people running Unix on PDP-11/45 (I admit that's pretty hard-core) | Jun 25 20:14 |
| cubexyz | these are very modular and repairable systems | Jun 25 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | A more sensible approach would have been to declare like every third Fedora release to be a Fedora Legacy branch, but even that wouldn't really work, because eventually people would need to upgrade and you can't skip versions like that with direct upgrades. | Jun 25 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Also, with CentOS and Scientific Linux already providing essentially a long term stable Fedora..... | Jun 25 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | RHEL+Clones don't package anything near as much software as Fedora does. You don't even get the complete Gnome software collection. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | But most of the rest is provided by repos like EPEL and RPM Fusion. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| cubexyz | TUHS does the historical maintainance on Unix | Jun 25 20:16 |
| cubexyz | and it's fairly active | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | You won't get official support for EPEL from RHEL/CentOS/Scientific Linux, but the packages are made to fit in on those systems. | Jun 25 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hardly ever go more than five years without buying a new system. | Jun 25 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I might because improvements are slowing down. | Jun 25 20:18 |
| cubexyz | I am worried about my CRTs | Jun 25 20:20 |
| cubexyz | I'm not comfortable working on them and they are starting to fail | Jun 25 20:20 |
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| cubexyz | the amiga 1080 was made in nov. 1985 | Jun 25 20:21 |
| cubexyz | I have a special watch-list for amiga monitors I'm looking for | Jun 25 20:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-monitors.txt | Jun 25 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to test out higan 103's Sega Genesis emulation later. | Jun 25 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | The release notes say it's quite usable, even though it's not the best emulator for those systems yet. | Jun 25 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to have everything under one roof, and his SNES emulation is excellent. | Jun 25 20:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I wouldn't mind getting a monitor that works for a sega genesis | Jun 25 20:30 |
| cubexyz | you can see the problem | Jun 25 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I think so. | Jun 25 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | What are you using for IRC? Emacs? | Jun 25 20:31 |
| cubexyz | no, I'm using xchat on openbsd | Jun 25 20:31 |
| cubexyz | I can't stand emacs :) | Jun 25 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's that at least. | Jun 25 20:31 |
| cubexyz | also that's why I never bought a vax.... because of monitor availability | Jun 25 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski tried making it better with Xemacs, but Stallman wouldn't merge the improvements, or had the GNU version reimplement them. | Jun 25 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | At this point, not only s Xemacs dead, but it's probably impossible to merge even if someone wanted to. | Jun 25 20:33 |
| cubexyz | emacs or (xemacs) used the athena widget set | Jun 25 20:34 |
| cubexyz | so I do have it, but almost never use it | Jun 25 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 25 20:35 |
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| cubexyz | i'm more of a vi-man | Jun 25 20:36 |
| cubexyz | guess I'm not a true stallmanite :) | Jun 25 20:36 |
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| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/emacs-vs-vi.png | Jun 25 21:06 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/feeble-emacs-user.png | Jun 25 21:12 |
| cubexyz | ok, one more | Jun 25 21:20 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/programmers-life.png | Jun 25 21:20 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/24/self-driving-cars-mcity-augmented-reality/ Hmm self drive cars talking to each other I see horrible hacking possibles. | Jun 26 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Self-driving cars are safer when they talk to each other | Jun 26 00:23 | |
| oiaohm | There is a very good reason for self drive cars to be able to operate stand alone. | Jun 26 00:24 |
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| MinceR | 26 020757 < DaemonFC> Thank goodness we have Debian and Ubuntu so all of the stupid can be safely tucked away in two distros. | Jun 26 01:44 |
| MinceR | too bad all the ratcrap distros also get all the stupid | Jun 26 01:44 |
| MinceR | and then the derivatives inherit them | Jun 26 01:44 |
| cubexyz | don't complain... it was worse in the past | Jun 26 01:44 |
| cubexyz | Xenix? Venix? You would have hated those | Jun 26 01:45 |
| cubexyz | Xenix didn't even come with a compiler unless you paid $1k extra | Jun 26 01:45 |
| MinceR | no, it wasn't so self-destructive in the past | Jun 26 01:46 |
| cubexyz | now hardware, firmware, you have a valid complaint there | Jun 26 01:47 |
| cubexyz | baked in intel me | Jun 26 01:47 |
| MinceR | or amd psp | Jun 26 01:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't even think libreboot supports the latest AMD hardware | Jun 26 01:48 |
| cubexyz | yes, the psp | Jun 26 01:48 |
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| cubexyz | if the AMD PSP firmware is not present, the system is inoperable | Jun 26 01:49 |
| cubexyz | I hear it's an autonomous computer all on it's own | Jun 26 01:51 |
| cubexyz | there is a book though | Jun 26 01:52 |
| cubexyz | "Platform Embedded Security Technology Revealed" | Jun 26 01:52 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/technology-revealed.pdf | Jun 26 01:54 |
| cubexyz | just in case it disappears | Jun 26 01:54 |
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| MinceR | got it, thanks | Jun 26 01:59 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kVAJnWi.gifv | Jun 26 02:27 |
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| DaemonFC | I found some really useful software called uBlock Protector. | Jun 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's like Anti-Adblock Killer Reek, but that was abandoned in November. | Jun 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | This one is under the GPL 3 and includes some new code to defeat new anti-adblock methods. | Jun 26 02:43 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: PSP and ME are attempting to deal with a real set of problem. But dealing with it closed source I really don't see that as helping us long term. | Jun 26 03:02 |
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| cubexyz | well I don't think I've ever experienced a BIOS attack | Jun 26 05:33 |
| cubexyz | but if I _did_ I know what to do | Jun 26 05:33 |
| cubexyz | I don't need baked in secret stuff on my motherboard | Jun 26 05:33 |
| cubexyz | even if a BIOS attack bricked my computer, you know what? | Jun 26 05:34 |
| cubexyz | I just take the chip out of the socket and reprogram it | Jun 26 05:34 |
| cubexyz | so no baked in secret stuff please | Jun 26 05:34 |
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| cubexyz | enough of big brother tactics | Jun 26 05:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-07/Heasman/Presentation/bh-usa-07-heasman.pdf good list of the straight forward bios attacks. | Jun 26 05:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue most people make the mistake with is thinking that a bios infection is only hidden in the motherboard bios chip. | Jun 26 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: can be hidden in like in video card flash that the bios reads. | Jun 26 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I agree I don't want secret stuff hidden in motherboard. I also don't want flash firmwares on items being able to be recoded without my permissions either. | Jun 26 05:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How to use #Evernote in Linux https://t.co/2DcIZq5xEr | Jun 26 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) "browser-based version of Evernote" | Jun 26 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | works OK with #gnu #linux | Jun 26 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use Evernote in Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 26 13:37 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ManjaroLinux 17.0.2 released (G, K, X) https://t.co/CSBPUN7mz0 #gnu...' | Jun 26 13:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How to use #Evernote in Linux https://t.co/2DcIZq5xEr "browser-based...' | Jun 26 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879393552077381632 | Jun 26 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat News and Finances | Jun 26 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 13:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News and Finances | Tux Machines | Jun 26 13:40 | |
| MinceR | that's a bingo! | Jun 26 13:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat News and Finances https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf #gnu #linux...' | Jun 26 13:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat News and Finances https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf #gnu #linux...' | Jun 26 13:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879396249832706048 | Jun 26 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform | Jun 26 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 13:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Unveils Open Source HCI Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879396777488781313 | Jun 26 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake | Jun 26 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | processors have broken hyper-threading | Jun 26 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nVQsWEPw3w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 13:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XeJp71tqs7 (news.softpedia.com) | Jun 26 13:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux reveals Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake processors have broken hyper-threading | Tux Machines | Jun 26 13:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Devs Urge Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake Users to Disable HyperThreading | Jun 26 13:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN' | Jun 26 13:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879398053198925825 | Jun 26 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New user registration page gives permission | Jun 26 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | error. You might want to fix that. | Jun 26 13:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cosmology | Jun 26 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cosmology [ http://ur1.ca/r2old ] | Jun 26 14:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 14:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879399873069666305 | Jun 26 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE #CaaS Platform | Jun 26 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 (www.tuxmachines.org) another new | Jun 26 14:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buzzword. #gnu #linux #server #container | Jun 26 14:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE CaaS Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 14:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879400438201823233 | Jun 26 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu | Jun 26 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile workstation https://t.co/jYBZqZjqLG | Jun 26 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 26 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu mobile workstation | Tux Machines | Jun 26 14:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 14:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE #CaaS Platform https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 another new buzzword. #gnu...' | Jun 26 14:10 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/LpwWjww.gifv | Jun 26 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I found the sweet spot | Jun 26 14:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 14:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879402045673009152 | Jun 26 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl | Jun 26 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #samsung #nokia #google | Jun 26 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #xiaomi #google #sony | Jun 26 14:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 26 14:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl #android #samsung #nokia #google #linux...' | Jun 26 14:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879403050678538242 | Jun 26 14:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Jun 26 14:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mINqItpqEF (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 26 14:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 14:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto C Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Tux Machines | Jun 26 14:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock...' | Jun 26 14:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879404356877131776 | Jun 26 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and | Jun 26 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | inexpensive https://t.co/IwUgeLUcgz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gentoo | Jun 26 14:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Flex 11 Chromebook review: Tough, durable and inexpensive | Tux Machines | Jun 26 14:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and...' | Jun 26 14:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it...' | Jun 26 14:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879405524302823425 | Jun 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it needs to get | Jun 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines rid of bigots like yourself. | Jun 26 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 14:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump For the US to be...' | Jun 26 14:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 14:57 | |
| MinceR | https://68.media.tumblr.com/85479247b1874cc817f0300a492bbba1/tumblr_inline_os64mabKSD1uc2pje_1280.png | Jun 26 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879413406033424384 | Jun 26 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 15:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 15:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Motti, HOOK, Maia, Lyndow and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 15:02 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/TwoPaddocks/status/879233937070931968 | Jun 26 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 15:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 15:05 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wish I could tell you some of the things I know, but I don't want to get someone else in trouble. I think you'd fall out of your chair laughing. | Jun 26 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | Legally, I'm not even supposed to know. | Jun 26 15:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump claims he wants the same thing for us. | Jun 26 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | That's what nationalism and economic fascism gets you. | Jun 26 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who sits down and looks at NAFTA should come to the conclusion that there are more upsides for the US than downsides, and if we go back to the table, there's no guarantee we'll get a better deal, and if we rip it up we'll spiral into an economic depression complete with inflation, millions of lost jobs, and empty shelves. | Jun 26 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | The North American trade bloc is so integrated after 25 years of NAFTA and even more with the former US-Canada deal, that there's no easy way to back out of it. | Jun 26 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't think that NAFTA has cost us jobs on balance. | Jun 26 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has changed the kind of jobs we have. | Jun 26 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | The US lost some manufacturing, but our financial institutions and agriculture took over in Mexico. | Jun 26 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | We basically strongarmed them the last time and Trump thinks we were the victims? | Jun 26 15:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879414403384397828 | Jun 26 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 15:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 15:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/apisanadora/status/879420897651826689 | Jun 26 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 18 open source translation tools to localize your project | Jun 26 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @apisanadora https://t.co/LIcbVJfJkD (opensource.com) #freesw | Jun 26 15:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 15:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-18 open source translation tools | Opensource.com | Jun 26 15:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y...' | Jun 26 15:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y | Jun 26 15:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes,...' | Jun 26 15:45 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does the NAFTA have anti-human rights effects as the more recent "trade agreement"s do? | Jun 26 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879425471133474816 | Jun 26 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fabric | Jun 26 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social fabric | Tux Machines | Jun 26 15:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it improved the overall standard of living in all countries, I think. | Jun 26 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | The "rising tide lifts all the boats" theory. | Jun 26 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | But some got a better deal from it than others. | Jun 26 15:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social...' | Jun 26 15:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, A good example is Walmart. | Jun 26 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | There are things in Walmart now that are cheaper than they were in 1991, even without adjusting for inflation. | Jun 26 15:52 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the Singularity...' | Jun 26 15:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Like a box fan. | Jun 26 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Some worker in Mexico got a job making box fans and he earns three times what he made before. | Jun 26 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jun 26 15:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/879427120061194240 | Jun 26 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost fabric | Jun 26 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:03 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg178100.html | Jun 26 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas — Linux Stable Kernel Updates [ http://ur1.ca/r2qjf ] | Jun 26 16:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Linux 4.11.7 has this. | Jun 26 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/general-linux-open-source/959507-linux-4-12-rc7-released-final-might-come-in-one-week?p=959648#post959648 | Jun 26 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.12-rc7 Released: Final Might Come In One Week - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2qoq ] | Jun 26 16:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Me: I've been getting: | Jun 26 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-8000C-28.ucode failed with error -2 | Jun 26 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ever since I started using the Linux 4.11.5 kernel (iirc). Thank Intel for making references to firmware that they haven't released yet in a stable kernel series. | Jun 26 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, my wifi works, so oh well. Just more random error chatter from the kernel. I get plenty of that anyway on my Lenovo Yoga 900. It doesn't (appear to) harm anything. (But who knows?) | Jun 26 16:22 |
| schestowitz | "Sing-In" http://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chrome-os-team-is-experimenting-with-refreshed-sign-in-lock-screens-516647.shtml | Jun 26 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google's Chrome OS Team Is Experimenting with Refreshed Sign-In/Lock Screens [ http://ur1.ca/r2qs4 ] | Jun 26 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TRS0211/status/879437447507193857 | Jun 26 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TRS0211: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn That chin (or lack of) is a threat in itself | Jun 26 16:37 | |
| schestowitz | Let's focus on the issue, not appearances. | Jun 26 16:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BeyondSimian/status/879438670675271681 | Jun 26 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BeyondSimian: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Crime has gone down | Jun 26 16:39 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/hardware-firmware-drivers | Jun 26 16:39 |
| schestowitz | (brexit lunacy) | Jun 26 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free drivers, firmware, and hardware designs — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/r2qxz ] | Jun 26 16:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438472804782081 | Jun 26 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 16:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:39 | |
| schestowitz | maybe fewer cops are left to record it, or fewer people bother reporting it | Jun 26 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 16:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple put Imagination Technologies out of business, essentially, when it stopped buying their chipsets. | Jun 26 16:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 26 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I hear that | Jun 26 16:40 |
| MinceR | good riddance | Jun 26 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe we won't have to deal with Poulsbo-like shit from them again. | Jun 26 16:40 |
| schestowitz | phoronix wrote about it last week | Jun 26 16:40 |
| MinceR | poulsbo was intel's choice to use a shitty gpu instead of their own, though | Jun 26 16:40 |
| MinceR | they could go to another shitty company instead | Jun 26 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | "We support Linux. Just look at our 32-bit only blob that works on Ubuntu 8.04!" | Jun 26 16:41 |
| MinceR | "just use the vesa driver" | Jun 26 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're up for sale. About the only asset they might have now are patents. | Jun 26 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | Probably Intel will buy them. | Jun 26 16:42 |
| MinceR | finally, intel can abuse customers with shitty gpus they own :> | Jun 26 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's cheap and it means that whoever gets them can't be sued by a patent troll later. | Jun 26 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll just do another incestuous cross licensing agreement with AMD. | Jun 26 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | They'd prefer to have no competition, but if they have to have one, they'd prefer it to be AMD. | Jun 26 16:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438850048839680 | Jun 26 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 26 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 16:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:44 | |
| MinceR | and the governments let them get away with it | Jun 26 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 16:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Intel lets AMD live because their products generally aren't as good and they're not a major player anyway. | Jun 26 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | AMD got bumped into the S&P 500 recently but it's one of the smaller components. | Jun 26 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like #497 by weight. | Jun 26 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | They have to heavily discount to compete with Intel on the low end. | Jun 26 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440122047057920 | Jun 26 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 16:46 | |
| DaemonFC | AMD has released some major disasters, like Bulldozer. | Jun 26 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they're in the retail channels, they have to subsidize them to get them to sell, at a loss. | Jun 26 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440736088973312 | Jun 26 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441469219766272 | Jun 26 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 16:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 16:51 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-win-catching&num=1 | Jun 26 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon's Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Has Nearly Caught Up With Windows' Driver - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2r45 ] | Jun 26 16:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, amdgpu is missing Vulkan support. | Jun 26 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Even Intel is supporting Vulkan. | Jun 26 16:54 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 26 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 26 17:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I commented: Several Linux distributions package it, but it's not commonly supported. We already have several smallish desktop environments that have the same basic goal of being small, working well on old and bargain basement computers, using a small utility for each task and avoiding entanglements with systemd. I wonder what their objection with using LXQt was. If it was just the GPL/LGPL then making a whole new project seems pointless. | Jun 26 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ohhh, additional drivers for Intel's Bay FAIL platform. :) | Jun 26 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=911723 | Jun 26 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | kernel-4.12.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc27 | Build Info | koji [ http://ur1.ca/r2rjz ] | Jun 26 17:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it fixes the random lockups. | Jun 26 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441853807984640 | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451288404197376 | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 17:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451322118008832 | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452601716101120 | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 17:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 17:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 17:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452630879268866 | Jun 26 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cafbear favourited '#Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, #HyperThreading, and...' | Jun 26 17:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Was it not known for a long...' | Jun 26 17:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Was it not known for...' | Jun 26 17:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454939738714112 | Jun 26 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 17:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 17:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus/page7 | Jun 26 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2s0e ] | Jun 26 17:48 | |
| DaemonFC | I told John Bridgman that AMD is a giant trash fire. | Jun 26 17:48 |
| MinceR | so are intel and nvidia | Jun 26 17:53 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 17:53 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/solo | Jun 26 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Solo | Jun 26 17:55 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/u37HGeX.jpg | Jun 26 18:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454964460003329 | Jun 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879461354150789120 | Jun 26 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 18:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 18:09 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough favourited 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 18:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:09 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 18:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879462736345915392 | Jun 26 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 26 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 26 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 26 18:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the Linux Community, Librem Laptops, Chrome OS, and the Laptop Survey | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 18:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, #Librem...' | Jun 26 18:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879465064197222400 | Jun 26 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 26 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 26 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lRZPgl7iIP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Qualys, NIST, Internet of Things, Microsoft's Broken Updates and Honeypots | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from DNC ashes' | Jun 26 18:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from...' | Jun 26 18:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of Things,...' | Jun 26 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879468528000270337 | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879468665237905413 | Jun 26 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 18:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 18:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lumina 1.3.0 Released https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs #bsd #unix...' | Jun 26 18:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange The revolution will be not televised by...' | Jun 26 18:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange The revolution will be not...' | Jun 26 18:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879469494099472385 | Jun 26 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 no, due to spam registrations we had to disable | Jun 26 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it. Do you want me to set up an account for you? -RS | Jun 26 18:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879470326459006976 | Jun 26 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, | Jun 26 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stable New Kernels and More | Jun 26 18:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w4P7zbCLl6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel | Jun 26 18:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, Stable New Kernels and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 18:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879471560016498689 | Jun 26 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, | Jun 26 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Coreboot...) | Jun 26 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zo0Yjtkg4u (www.tuxmachines.org) #hardware | Jun 26 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #radeonSI #ati | Jun 26 18:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Graphics and Processors (for Linux, LLVM, Coreboot...) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 18:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 18:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879472778914693120 | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For The #Linux #Kernel | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/24y1r1Z0EW (www.tuxmachines.org) #china | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gpl | Jun 26 18:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For...' | Jun 26 18:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879473940497825792 | Jun 26 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL | Jun 26 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | /#Vulkan #Benchmarks,# Freedreno Development and #Mesa | Jun 26 19:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JWvmAcfmYd (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 26 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, OpenGL/Vulkan Benchmarks, Freedreno Development and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL /#Vulkan...' | Jun 26 19:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879475655372570625 | Jun 26 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 26 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 26 19:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 26 19:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and Add More Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879476167102877697 | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qKKiy6A8zs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian | Jun 26 19:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879477944502169600 | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i5qyJ2YM4i (www.tuxmachines.org) it's mostly | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux (de facto platform in servers now) | Jun 26 19:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879479563608354816 | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 26 19:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479589453647872 | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 26 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 26 19:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Qualys, NIST, Internet of Things, Microsoft's Broken Updates and Honeypots | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479675784974336 | Jun 26 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 26 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 26 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 26 19:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the Linux Community, Librem Laptops, Chrome OS, and the Laptop Survey | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/879479900251594752 | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps #SparkyLinux Users Backup | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Their Secret Files https://t.co/edjDQb5Vjd | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #privacy is not a crime. #gnu | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps SparkyLinux Users Backup Their Secret Files | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian | Jun 26 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Jun 26 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qKKiy6A8zs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 19:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian | Jun 26 19:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879481733405700097 | Jun 26 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Jun 26 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/i5qyJ2YM4i (www.tuxmachines.org) it's mostly | Jun 26 19:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux (de facto platform in servers now) | Jun 26 19:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory...' | Jun 26 19:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory...' | Jun 26 19:31 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on...' | Jun 26 19:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879482841138122752 | Jun 26 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Programming: #LLVM /#Clang, anytime, and #GoLang | Jun 26 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eUSSaCtpaI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: LLVM/Clang, anytime, and Go | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #LLVM /#Clang, anytime, and #GoLang ...' | Jun 26 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879483720712978432 | Jun 26 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS: FOSS in #Mappano, Open Network Automation Platform | Jun 26 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ONAP), #Blender in Class, #Kodi Jobs, #Innersource | Jun 26 19:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ScBoYr5ZiO (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 19:38 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | 14 mins · | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Dr. Evil: Mr. President, after I destroy Washington D.C. I will destroy another major city every hour on the hour. That is, unless, of course, you pay me....one hundred... billion dollars. | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: [bursts with laughter] Dr. Evil, this is 1969! That amount of money doesn't even exist. | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | [laughing] | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: That's like saying, [with changed voice] | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: "I want a kajillion bajillion dollars." | Jun 26 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/27/0037241/zillow-threatens-to-sue-blogger-for-using-its-photos-for-parody | Jun 26 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Zillow Threatens To Sue Blogger For Using Its Photos For Parody - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r2w6j ] | Jun 26 22:01 | |
| DaemonFC | https://web.archive.org/web/20170606043317/http://www.mcmansionhell.com/post/161329177461/50-states-of-mcmansion-hell-harford-county | Jun 26 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 50 States of McMansion Hell: Harford County,... | McMansion Hell [ http://ur1.ca/r2wa0 ] | Jun 26 22:08 | |
| DaemonFC | There's the post that Zillow got removed. | Jun 26 22:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j0cpb/lenovo_releases_new_bios_for_ideapad_710s_plus/ | Jun 26 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Releases New Bios for IdeaPad 710s Plus and Plus Touch : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r2wtf ] | Jun 26 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has released new BIOS firmware for the 710S Plus and 710S Plus Touch that allows Linux installs. | Jun 26 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | They don't mention Linux, but they added an option to disable "RAID" which makes the SSD available to all operating systems. A forums user said he was able to install Debian. | Jun 26 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 26 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 26 23:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks sort of amateurish at the moment. They posted an article on OMG Ubuntu! and I nearly choked when someone said "Designed by Stevie Wonder.". I took another look at it. Late 90s Gnome (before there was a HIG) came to mind. | Jun 26 23:02 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1465250 | Jun 26 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1465250 – SELinux is preventing gsd-xsettings from 'setattr' accesses on the directory /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. [ http://ur1.ca/r2xdz ] | Jun 26 23:45 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that Lenovo one is also part one of the intel raid options not being supported by Linux | Jun 26 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, And it never will be as long as Linux upstream keeps rejecting the driver. | Jun 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Intel did give them one. They decided not to upstream it. | Jun 27 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like the device makers are giving up and letting people turn off the RAID mode. | Jun 27 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Nice. Someone forked the old Faenza icons and continued it as Obsidian. | Jun 27 00:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879564567432613889 | Jun 27 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yes, please. I'll DM you the email ☺️ | Jun 27 00:58 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you know of any lists of firmware attacks? e.g. routers, video cards, motherboards etc | Jun 27 00:59 |
| cubexyz | I guess even hard drive firmware could possibly be attacked | Jun 27 01:00 |
| cubexyz | all sorts of rumours about killing a CRT with the wrong refresh rate | Jun 27 01:06 |
| cubexyz | no idea if that's possible or not | Jun 27 01:06 |
| cubexyz | actually I'd be more worried about heat damage than a GPU "virus" | Jun 27 01:10 |
| cubexyz | there was the cookie monster on IBM mainframes... | Jun 27 01:10 |
| cubexyz | locked up the machine until the operator typed "cookie" | Jun 27 01:11 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1465274 | Jun 27 01:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't know of a list other than my personal collection. | Jun 27 01:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-your-own-bad-usb-0165419/ the reality is if it has a writeable flash that alters the device function you have to allow on some attacker attempting it at some point. | Jun 27 01:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there are examples of harddrive firmware being modified for a mixture of evil reasons. | Jun 27 01:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: nice gnome bug that one. | Jun 27 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://webkit.org/blog/3476/content-blockers-first-look/ | Jun 27 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, What do you suppose is going on? | Jun 27 02:00 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do you mean by all the content blocker support stuff? If so when you get in mobile having extra crap coming in is a real issue for networks. | Jun 27 02:03 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: also with the fact google has said they are going to make it a default feature of their browser. | Jun 27 02:04 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I don't know where this will leave sites that have built their operational model around third party advertising. | Jun 27 02:05 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw | Jun 27 02:06 |
| cubexyz | I don't see any way of altering the firmware remotely | Jun 27 02:16 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/X2cj6 | Jun 27 02:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of it as a privilege exploit. If you can embedded into the hardware disinfection could be a lot harder. Like a harddrive firmware infected clean install and breach code magically comes back. | Jun 27 02:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its also why I don't have a big issue with firmware files instead of firmware on device. Someways firmware files are able to be audited so devices without flash can be safer. | Jun 27 02:22 |
| cubexyz | why don't manufacturers password protect write access to firmware? | Jun 27 02:24 |
| MinceR | that sounds like work | Jun 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | adding firmware write protect switches also sound like work, also the switches would be extra cost | Jun 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | just like adding a memory card slot to a mainboard to provide for easily replaceable readonly boot code would be extra cost | Jun 27 02:25 |
| MinceR | so instead we have these half-assed hacks that don't work properly | Jun 27 02:26 |
| MinceR | got to love "modern" IT | Jun 27 02:26 |
| MinceR | (or they could use a jumper instead of a switch...) | Jun 27 02:26 |
| cubexyz | they did | Jun 27 02:27 |
| cubexyz | in some cases | Jun 27 02:27 |
| cubexyz | BIOS_WP option | Jun 27 02:27 |
| cubexyz | only problem is most motherboards don't have it | Jun 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | in software? | Jun 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we are seeing signed firmwares in more cases now but you still have a lot of hardware with no protection. | Jun 27 02:28 |
| cubexyz | no, an actual jumper | Jun 27 02:28 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel boot guard is one of the attempts to deal with this problem. | Jun 27 02:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bios-wp-option.txt | Jun 27 02:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it is a double sided sword. | Jun 27 02:29 |
| MinceR | seems to me that preventing the owner from replacing firmware was more important than actual security | Jun 27 02:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its like a half fix. | Jun 27 02:29 |
| cubexyz | now a jumper for video card firmware, I don't know if anyone ever did that | Jun 27 02:29 |
| cubexyz | the odd thing is all the motherboards that had BIOS_WP used P4 CPU | Jun 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Block attacker from replacing firmware also block owner from replacing firmware when it defective. So half fix. | Jun 27 02:30 |
| oiaohm | We need proper fixes to the firmware nightmare attack problems. | Jun 27 02:31 |
| cubexyz | BIOS attacks are pretty rare though | Jun 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | perhaps that's when they realized they needed to protect the firmware from writing, but the half-assed signature-based non-solutions weren't available yet | Jun 27 02:31 |
| cubexyz | but if I decide to experiment with coreboot, that's my perogative | Jun 27 02:31 |
| MinceR | so you'd think | Jun 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | The first network spreading multi firmware infecting worm I know of was 1994. | Jun 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | but the megacorporate government has other ideas | Jun 27 02:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes the bios write protect switch appeared after that for a while. | Jun 27 02:32 |
| MinceR | s/gov/world gov/ | Jun 27 02:32 |
| cubexyz | but then vanished... I can't recall seeing any modern motherboard with a jumper for that | Jun 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, Systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux. GNU is not a modern userland unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Linux system that needs to be replaced by a shitty nonfunctional init system, broken logging system, and half-assed vital system components comprising a fully broken OS as defined | Jun 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | by Lennart Poettering. | Jun 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | Many computer users run a version of the Systemd system every day, without wanting it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Systemd/Linux which is widely used today often still contains some working GNU components, and many of its users are not aware that they need to be replaced by the Systemd system, developed by Lennart Poettering. | Jun 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | There really is a GNU/Linux, and some people are using it, but these people need to be forced to stop. Systemd is the light: the program in the system that owns the machine's resources and decides what other programs you can run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of Systemd. Linux should always be used in combination with the Systemd operating system: the whole | Jun 27 02:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I do have a board from 2012 that has it but they have got rare and it a server class board. | Jun 27 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | system is basically Systemd with Linux graciously hosted, or Systemd/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of Systemd/Linux! | Jun 27 02:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 27 02:34 |
| cubexyz | not really | Jun 27 02:34 |
| MinceR | at least until they assassinate Linus and rename it to systemd-kerneld | Jun 27 02:34 |
| cubexyz | slack, gentoo, probably a bunch of other ones don't use systemd | Jun 27 02:34 |
| MinceR | too few | Jun 27 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Really it the same problem we had in the time sysvinit was dominate | Jun 27 02:34 |
| cubexyz | and if you really wanted to be hard-core there's LFS without systemd | Jun 27 02:34 |
| oiaohm | Lack of init system diversity is not a new problem. | Jun 27 02:35 |
| MinceR | and the systemd shill is at it again, with the lies | Jun 27 02:35 |
| MinceR | trying to force through the lie that systemd is "just an init system" | Jun 27 02:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not a lie you can go through distrowatch lists of packages across different time frames. | Jun 27 02:35 |
| MinceR | there are other init systems, but your beloved NSA backdoor is not one of them | Jun 27 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879564871536443392 | Jun 27 02:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines yes, please.Where should I send my email? | Jun 27 02:36 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: if you do that you will notice lack of diversity is not a new thing. | Jun 27 02:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you considered a career in politics? | Jun 27 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't see any reason why logs are kept in a binary database. | Jun 27 02:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: tell that to the redhat shill over here | Jun 27 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't that mean that if one part of the database is corrupted, you can lose all of your logs? | Jun 27 02:37 |
| cubexyz | found one more... | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's the whole point | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | also bloating the log up with builtin core dumps | Jun 27 02:37 |
| cubexyz | MSI 915GLM4-F | Jun 27 02:37 |
| cubexyz | any bets on it being a P4 board? :) | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | so you get to delete logs if you want space | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | or buy more storage | Jun 27 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | logrotate put them in their own archives each day and then eventually got rid of them when there were more than you wanted. | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | iirc journald's binary garbage can't even be properly rotated | Jun 27 02:37 |
| MinceR | though maybe someone hacked something up already | Jun 27 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, For a while, Fedora was running systemd-syslogd AND syslog at the same time. | Jun 27 02:38 |
| cubexyz | yup, another P4 one | Jun 27 02:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 27 02:38 |
| MinceR | that thing when even other redhat drones don't trust redhat's crap | Jun 27 02:38 |
| oiaohm | The idea of journald is based of solaris binary logging that that damage will be detectable. | Jun 27 02:39 |
| MinceR | damage was already detectable | Jun 27 02:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no it was not. | Jun 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | just do ps -p 1 | Jun 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | if it says systemd, the damage is done | Jun 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has becoming a lot more like Solaris and IRIX in many ways. | Jun 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's a piece at a time. | Jun 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | next on today's program of bullshit: oiaohm claims you can't sign text logs | Jun 27 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | You wouldn't notice with any single change. | Jun 27 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: syslog could have log where bit had been overwritten and damaged with no clues that it had happened. | Jun 27 02:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: part of the binary logging is signing. | Jun 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your beloved piece of trash can have 1 bit changed and you won't be able to figure out what happened | Jun 27 02:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that journald does | Jun 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | maybe your system got broken into | Jun 27 02:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft logging is not signned. | Jun 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | maybe you caught a cosmic ray | Jun 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | who knows? | Jun 27 02:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this is one of the clues that tell you that systemd is being modeled after solaris. | Jun 27 02:41 |
| cubexyz | a bit-1 error in ASCII would be easy to fix | Jun 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | if they make it routine enough (perhaps just by programming in their usually sloppy way), the NSA agents won't even need to try to cover their tracks | Jun 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | i found oiaohm's motto! http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/340982-if-you-can-t-dazzle-them-with-brilliance-baffle-them-with | Jun 27 02:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really no you just like being insulting. | Jun 27 02:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what information does syslog fail to record. | Jun 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | also, vms (winblows nt's ancestor) did binary logging before slowlaris even existed | Jun 27 02:46 |
| MinceR | but don't let the facts get in the way of your systemd shilling | Jun 27 02:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: vms and Windows logging does not contain validation stuff. | Jun 27 02:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: harden logging has a different family tree. | Jun 27 02:47 |
| MinceR | yeah, add one feature and suddenly it's a brand new idea | Jun 27 02:47 |
| oiaohm | progressively signed binary logging predates VMS. | Jun 27 02:48 |
| oiaohm | So this is not something from windows. | Jun 27 02:48 |
| MinceR | so much for the slowlaris hypothesis | Jun 27 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Slowarias was last in the tree of progressively signed binary logging before systemd journald. | Jun 27 02:49 |
| oiaohm | So it the most likely source of it. | Jun 27 02:49 |
| MinceR | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/379/532/43f.gif | Jun 27 02:49 |
| oiaohm | Really waste you time on stupid bullshit gifs you like. The reality is you never looked under the hood to id what tech journald was you saw binary logging and pressmed that linked it windows. | Jun 27 02:50 |
| oiaohm | The type says it really does not. | Jun 27 02:50 |
| oiaohm | The type says it should have repair tools | Jun 27 02:51 |
| oiaohm | That systemd is badly lacking. | Jun 27 02:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files/ the feature name that tells you that you not looking at a windows or vms based log is Forward Secure Sealing | Jun 27 02:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Forward Secure Sealing predates existing of vms being used on binary logs. Normally binary logs on hardened Unix systems. | Jun 27 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of the things that people say systemd has taken from windows when you look at what they are it absolutely not. | Jun 27 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've hit some strange bugs, oiaohm | Jun 27 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | I reported all of them. | Jun 27 02:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there are a list of tools that should exist for a binary log with Forward secure sealing. One is a forensic tool To open them up and read the damaged sections. That exists on hardened solaris and the different hardened unix before it. | Jun 27 03:13 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: are processes expensive on slowlaris? | Jun 27 05:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the low cost process model of Linux comes from the way Solaris does things and was written into the elf file format. Processes being expensive is Windows/VMS thing. | Jun 27 05:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: does slowlaris pretend processes are expensive? | Jun 27 05:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: SMF in solaris was design to track services starting massive number processes because processes are not that much more expensive than starting a thread in solaris. | Jun 27 05:55 |
| MinceR | so where does systemd's obsession with doing a ton of unrelated stuff in one process come from? | Jun 27 05:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit was designed around the theory that services would thread because processes were heavier than threads in sysvinit. | Jun 27 05:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: correction in sysv | Jun 27 05:56 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 27 05:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so where does systemd's obsession with doing a ton of unrelated stuff in one process come from? | Jun 27 05:57 |
| oiaohm | PID usage to trace services on presume that there would be only 1 PID to a service is in your face with sysvinit. | Jun 27 05:57 |
| oiaohm | What happens with SMF ideas mean sysvinit ideas you get systemd. | Jun 27 05:58 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, was stuffing unrelated stuff together in one process an SMF idea? | Jun 27 05:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no its not. | Jun 27 05:59 |
| oiaohm | The idea is from sysvinit service design. | Jun 27 06:00 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does sysvinit's init process serve? | Jun 27 06:00 |
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| oiaohm | Designing a service compatible with sysvinit. Presumed 1 PID per service then you would use pthread under that. | Jun 27 06:01 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does sysvinit's init process serve? | Jun 27 06:01 |
| oiaohm | The wrong idea does not come from the init of sysvinit. Comes from design a service to be managed by sysvinit. | Jun 27 06:02 |
| oiaohm | So you have people who have been design services to be used under sysvinit then design a init system core. Not a good idea. | Jun 27 06:03 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does cron serve? | Jun 27 06:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how to stuff a system is what cron servers when it dies. | Jun 27 06:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does httpd serve? | Jun 27 06:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have complained about systemd killing cron completely before. | Jun 27 06:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does postfix serve? | Jun 27 06:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: can you tell me why that is a good idea not a bad one. | Jun 27 06:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You are just listing off services to be annoying. | Jun 27 06:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have raised cron do you know it defects. | Jun 27 06:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how is it that i keep coming up with typical services managed by sysvinit/rc that manage to do one thing per service? | Jun 27 06:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which of these is the inspiration for systemd's "design" of doing tons of unrelated things in one process? | Jun 27 06:06 |
| oiaohm | Cron is a really good example why sysvinit fails. | Jun 27 06:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but you don't know it defects right. | Jun 27 06:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so if it looks like systemd does have parallels with winblows, you change the subject. interesting. | Jun 27 06:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: No I don't so far you have shown no evidence that there are any real parallels. | Jun 27 06:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: other than what stupid idiots presume. | Jun 27 06:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you have so far ignored the evidence that there are real parallels | Jun 27 06:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when cron dies and you restart it what does cron do about any task that was left running. | Jun 27 06:09 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you have an interesting religion | Jun 27 06:09 |
| oiaohm | and what stops cron form starting those tasks twice. | Jun 27 06:09 |
| oiaohm | Or more times. | Jun 27 06:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not ignored instead when you have suggested a parallel I have checked where those features have come from. | Jun 27 06:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and promptly ignored any inconvenient results? | Jun 27 06:10 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: no I have not. The reality is all the ones I have check clearly track else where because there are key marker features like in logging the sealing that lead to older than windows. | Jun 27 06:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and not linked to VMS either. | Jun 27 06:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the reality is that you ignore the reality, or twist it until it supports your claims, and ignore the bits that contradict it | Jun 27 06:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there might be a common link but is before VMS> | Jun 27 06:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, what's that OS before VMS that is pathologically afraid of spawning new processes and optimizes for high probability of log corruption? | Jun 27 06:12 |
| oiaohm | VMS did take some ideas form different UNIX OSs. | Jun 27 06:12 |
| MinceR | VMS was designed along the only idea cutler had, which was "hurr durr i hate unix" | Jun 27 06:13 |
| oiaohm | remember unix pthread userspace threading. So yes on old unix starting a process was expensive. | Jun 27 06:13 |
| MinceR | threading is not the same thing as processes being expensive | Jun 27 06:14 |
| MinceR | there's a lot more to threading than just lightweight processes | Jun 27 06:14 |
| oiaohm | userspace threading was time cheap in compare. | Jun 27 06:14 |
| MinceR | (hint: IPC) | Jun 27 06:14 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: also systemd spawns a lot of processes. | Jun 27 06:15 |
| MinceR | yet ignores the possibility when it would make the most sense | Jun 27 06:16 |
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| oiaohm | I would correct that it ignores some cases where it makes sense to spawn processes. There are quite a few cases where it does do it correctly. The service management engine of systemd could be broken down more than what it is. | Jun 27 06:20 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do remember SMF first generation made the same mistake of having service management engine and init in one binary. | Jun 27 06:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd makes it worse having user session management shoved into the same binary as well. | Jun 27 06:22 |
| MinceR | and parsing unit files | Jun 27 06:22 |
| MinceR | and doing the job of cron, atd, [x]inetd badly | Jun 27 06:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: parsing solaris xml init files were in SMF core as well with first version. | Jun 27 06:23 |
| MinceR | yay, sun is clueless too! | Jun 27 06:23 |
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| oiaohm | Later versions of SMF broke out cron, atd and inetd replacements as well. | Jun 27 06:23 |
| oiaohm | so systemd is way too much like first version SMF. | Jun 27 06:24 |
| MinceR | it's also way too much like windows | Jun 27 06:24 |
| MinceR | and also way too much like macos | Jun 27 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Windows cron equal was never merged into the init system. | Jun 27 06:24 |
| MinceR | (it's poettering's way or the highway) | Jun 27 06:24 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem each of those merge parts says solaris. | Jun 27 06:25 |
| oiaohm | The list don't match to the way windows is or has been assembled. | Jun 27 06:25 |
| MinceR | yes, in your obsessions | Jun 27 06:25 |
| oiaohm | first generation SMF is exact match. | Jun 27 06:25 |
| MinceR | talking to you is singularly unproductive | Jun 27 06:25 |
| oiaohm | So systemd is an attempt to bring SMF to linux based off first version. | Jun 27 06:26 |
| oiaohm | Too much stuff matches. | Jun 27 06:26 |
| oiaohm | binary logging included features match solaris hardened binary logging. | Jun 27 06:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically look at systemd compare to windows and solaris every time solaris comes out being the closest match. | Jun 27 06:27 |
| MinceR | except for the cases you ignore | Jun 27 06:28 |
| MinceR | because they don't fit into your model | Jun 27 06:28 |
| oiaohm | What case have I ignored. | Jun 27 06:28 |
| MinceR | but ok, you convinced me that slowlaris is also atrocious | Jun 27 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Note solaris changed a set of things after the first version of SMF like splitting init and service management. | Jun 27 06:29 |
| oiaohm | and also splitting out user session management. | Jun 27 06:29 |
| oiaohm | These splits have not happened in systemd. | Jun 27 06:29 |
| oiaohm | I see systemd as a really bad copy. | Jun 27 06:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa814329(v=vs.85).aspx read the description of windows binary logging. This is nothing like journal files https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files/ | Jun 27 06:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: only thing in common is the word binary. | Jun 27 06:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if I can find the solaris hardened logging format the append to end method that journal is using is the same as what is uses. | Jun 27 06:37 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: and if it is not the same then you can't find it. | Jun 27 07:02 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really you have never presented any data about any of your claims that there is a structure match. | Jun 27 07:04 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: when something is copied from something there is normally some design structure copied. | Jun 27 07:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: really, i was talking about ideas, not code headers | Jun 27 07:05 |
| MinceR | and attitudes | Jun 27 07:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, if i wanted to run slowlaris, then i'd just run slowlaris | Jun 27 07:05 |
| oiaohm | But the ideas when they are copied show up in design structure. | Jun 27 07:05 |
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| oiaohm | Windows might have releated ideas but that is not where the systemd developers have been coping their ideas form there is just too much miss match. | Jun 27 07:06 |
| MinceR | and so binariness shows up in the "design" | Jun 27 07:06 |
| MinceR | it's not like they could be copying from multiple atrocious products | Jun 27 07:07 |
| oiaohm | SMF first version 1 binary did everything. | Jun 27 07:07 |
| oiaohm | That was never present in windows. | Jun 27 07:07 |
| MinceR | did they have kdbus? | Jun 27 07:07 |
| oiaohm | Solaris kernel IPC. | Jun 27 07:07 |
| oiaohm | That is more designed to user usage than most of the Linux kernel ones. | Jun 27 07:07 |
| MinceR | was slowlaris' rationale for it "we don't know where the overhead is, but we can't be arsed to profile anything, so we'll just assume it's mode switching and throw it in the kernel"? | Jun 27 07:08 |
| oiaohm | solaris has dtrace and dtrace was used after solaris added the Ipc for user applications. | Jun 27 07:09 |
| MinceR | so? | Jun 27 07:09 |
| oiaohm | So same rational screw up. | Jun 27 07:10 |
| oiaohm | Some of the reason for slowaris | Jun 27 07:10 |
| MinceR | i can't follow that | Jun 27 07:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: a stack of features were added the the solaris kernel that they profiled after the case then had to remove a stack of them. | Jun 27 07:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 07:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so fairly much everything talking about kinda happened at solaris first and the systemd guys did not learn from their failures. | Jun 27 07:12 |
| oiaohm | But then copy solaris failures. | Jun 27 07:12 |
| MinceR | that doesn't sound like deliberately copying the design, just being stupid in the exact same way | Jun 27 07:12 |
| oiaohm | when you get to 150+ matches you start thinking this has to be more than dumb luck. | Jun 27 07:13 |
| MinceR | i don't see the point of copying old failures | Jun 27 07:14 |
| MinceR | but maybe i'm just not irrational enough to follow those people | Jun 27 07:14 |
| oiaohm | I can see how it could happen. If you had solaris from a particular point in time and no newer and were using that a reference to duplicate. You would be missing all the fixes. | Jun 27 07:16 |
| oiaohm | Like the argument to avoid context switches was in the ipc for SMF that was merged in solaris. The argument for kdbus and the solaris user ipc was almost the same wording. | Jun 27 07:18 |
| MinceR | i guess | Jun 27 07:18 |
| MinceR | if you never stopped to think whether the things you were copying were actually workable | Jun 27 07:18 |
| oiaohm | It was not like SMF version 1 did not fix a few issues. So if you were focused in on fixing those issues you could have ignored some of the other issues. | Jun 27 07:20 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: tunnel vision effect in code development can be major cause of trouble. | Jun 27 07:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not test casing cgroup properly off the start line with systemd does suggest at the start they were not thinking about if the solution would 100 percent work as well. | Jun 27 07:24 |
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| MinceR | they still don't care, apparently | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | years after it was proclaimed to be "stable" | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | i don't expect this project to ever be fixed | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | they don't have the right attitude for that | Jun 27 07:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they did develop test cases of cgroup v1 in the end that proved it was broken and put test cases on cgroup v2. | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | and then they gave up? | Jun 27 07:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but that should not been 6 years into development. | Jun 27 07:26 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris test cases and fixed zones 6 months into SMF development. If 6 months in SMF is 6 years in systemd developlment we should see it break up into bits 2026 | Jun 27 07:31 |
| MinceR | and actually stable in 2046? | Jun 27 07:31 |
| oiaohm | some point around then yes. | Jun 27 07:31 |
| MinceR | and fit for integration into non-redhat distros in 2050? | Jun 27 07:31 |
| oiaohm | I am not exacty game to say systemd cannot be fixed. Because looking at how SMF was changed over time suggest it is fixable. | Jun 27 07:32 |
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| MinceR | i think they'll either forget about it entirely and do something different well before it could be fixed | Jun 27 07:34 |
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| MinceR | or they'll forget all the tickets and everything that could (and should) have been learned and start over | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | (CADT model) | Jun 27 07:35 |
| oiaohm | There is room for something better to be developed. | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | not a high standard | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | systemd is one of the worst designs i've encountered | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | it could be used to demonstrate what not to do in software engineering 101 | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | (a course poettering did not learn) | Jun 27 07:35 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has quite a few demo of how not to write specification for a design. | Jun 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | can't have that much, as it's relatively trivial | Jun 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | a bit overdone, but nowhere near systemd | Jun 27 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Really we need a properly designed init and service management system. Done to mathematically certified standard. | Jun 27 07:37 |
| oiaohm | At some point we had to move on from sysvinit ways of doing things. | Jun 27 07:41 |
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| MinceR | you had to. i don't see why you had to force others to go with you. | Jun 27 08:02 |
| oiaohm | The list of defects in sysvinit that were not addressed had to be addressed at some point | Jun 27 08:03 |
| oiaohm | and that what has happened. something appears that deals with some of the sysvinit issues and groups changed. | Jun 27 08:03 |
| oiaohm | Of course what has appeared is lacking in some areas still. | Jun 27 08:04 |
| oiaohm | the problem here is ignoring the defects in sysvinit and not starting to design functional replacements have brought us to this point. | Jun 27 08:05 |
| MinceR | when addressing defects, the idea is usually not to make them even worse | Jun 27 08:18 |
| MinceR | but to fix them. | Jun 27 08:19 |
| MinceR | no, that did not bring us to this point | Jun 27 08:19 |
| MinceR | ratcrap's greed and lust for power and poettering's extreme incompetence and the community being flooded with clueless lusers is what brought us to this point | Jun 27 08:19 |
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| MinceR | evil rarely goes after evil, though | Jun 27 10:03 |
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| Hellenico | When the greek representative left the greek patent office, the BB kept him as president of the finance and budget committee for another two years | Jun 27 11:36 |
| Hellenico | illegally of course | Jun 27 11:36 |
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| Hellenico | And why??? | Jun 27 11:37 |
| Hellenico | The answer is obvious | Jun 27 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Jun 27 11:38 |
| Hellenico | Serafeim Stasinos at that time was rather stronger than the danish counterpart | Jun 27 11:38 |
| Hellenico | Hi there | Jun 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz | I heard something like this... | Jun 27 11:38 |
| schestowitz | About Greek finance people at EPO | Jun 27 11:38 |
| Hellenico | This greek guy is a master in bullying | Jun 27 11:38 |
| Hellenico | You should ask the greek emplyees about | Jun 27 11:39 |
| schestowitz | is he the one work worked for a greek lady? | Jun 27 11:39 |
| Hellenico | Long before than BB!!! | Jun 27 11:39 |
| schestowitz | can you start it from the beginning (background)? | Jun 27 11:39 |
| Hellenico | Sure!!! | Jun 27 11:39 |
| Hellenico | Ask me whatever you want | Jun 27 11:39 |
| schestowitz | we can then request email leaks | Jun 27 11:40 |
| schestowitz | do we know who applied for JK's position? | Jun 27 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Ernst? | Jun 27 11:40 |
| schestowitz | DE usually abstains on BB proposals | Jun 27 11:40 |
| Hellenico | Not sure yet | Jun 27 11:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe Campinos? | Jun 27 11:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw him mentioned several times in the news last week | Jun 27 11:40 |
| Hellenico | Bingo!!!! | Jun 27 11:41 |
| schestowitz | so anyway, what's the Greek thing? | Jun 27 11:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:37] <Hellenico> The answer is obvious | Jun 27 11:41 |
| schestowitz | not obvious to me | Jun 27 11:41 |
| Hellenico | The other best friend | Jun 27 11:41 |
| schestowitz | anyone but grossenbacher | Jun 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | former friend | Jun 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | but too powerful, not supine enough anymore, does not quality (was there before) | Jun 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | *qualify | Jun 27 11:42 |
| Hellenico | Lots of money in Bb's pocket while the greek representative was president of the finance and budget committee | Jun 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | I'd like to know who applied | Jun 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz | someone inside the Council/Board surely knows | Jun 27 11:42 |
| Hellenico | Campinos is one name that I heard too | Jun 27 11:43 |
| schestowitz | so was it BB's way of buying Greeks' votes? | Jun 27 11:43 |
| Hellenico | But also there is a rumour about the italian representative | Jun 27 11:43 |
| Hellenico | A lady | Jun 27 11:43 |
| Hellenico | This information comes from epi | Jun 27 11:45 |
| schestowitz | what is this rumour? | Jun 27 11:45 |
| Hellenico | To appoint someone whose name is not involved in anything so fat | Jun 27 11:45 |
| Hellenico | And at the same time can be manipulated | Jun 27 11:46 |
| schestowitz | what is the name? | Jun 27 11:47 |
| Hellenico | Loredan Gullino | Jun 27 11:48 |
| Hellenico | Loredana sorry | Jun 27 11:48 |
| schestowitz | epi made a statement or just hearsay | Jun 27 11:49 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 27 11:49 |
| Hellenico | Hearsay i am afraid | Jun 27 11:49 |
| schestowitz | there seems to be infighting there over BB | Jun 27 11:49 |
| schestowitz | as they removed their own letter | Jun 27 11:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand their politics, but I guess it's like Team UPC vs firms that don't care for the UPC | Jun 27 11:50 |
| Hellenico | The issue is that whoever will be, nothing changes | Jun 27 11:50 |
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| Hellenico | The representatives make their own deals, as bb is quite generous to them... | Jun 27 11:51 |
| Hellenico | I lll give you the greek example again | Jun 27 11:51 |
| Hellenico | Two years ago the greek representative changes again | Jun 27 11:51 |
| Hellenico | An comes from the left party | Jun 27 11:51 |
| Hellenico | at the begining he opposed to bb, and some months later become bb´ s puppet | Jun 27 11:52 |
| Hellenico | Soory for the wrong words, it is the autocorrect | Jun 27 11:53 |
| schestowitz | It's still too vague to be something one can write about | Jun 27 11:54 |
| schestowitz | maybe some documents would demonstrate the position changes | Jun 27 11:54 |
| Hellenico | Ioannis Kaplanis is the "left" representative at the AC .... | Jun 27 11:55 |
| Hellenico | I' ll try to find sth | Jun 27 11:55 |
| schestowitz | hang on, flood/ddos attack | Jun 27 11:56 |
| Hellenico | I ll be back again in a couple of days if i have a document | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz | vergibot again | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz | please, yes, need documents if possible | Jun 27 11:56 |
| schestowitz | or old emails | Jun 27 11:56 |
| Hellenico | Ok | Jun 27 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nokia 3 review: Nokia plus Android is a winning combination | Tux Machines | Jun 27 12:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #OnePlus 5 review: This mid-range Android phone is speedy | Jun 27 12:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 10 Most important open source networking projects | Jun 27 12:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/lSygVSpB2p (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 12:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Nokia3 review: Nokia plus Android is a winning | Jun 27 13:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879747904105271297 | Jun 27 13:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MATE Possibly Adopting #Mir | Jun 27 13:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #graphics #wayland | Jun 27 13:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #DawnofWar III, #ScannerSombre, #WorldofOne, and | Jun 27 13:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Dawn of War III, Scanner Sombre, World of One, and XCOM 2 | Tux Machines | Jun 27 13:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux #Graphics and Performance: #NVIDIA, #AMDGPU PRO, | Jun 27 13:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap Is Now 99.9% Enterprise Distribution | Tux Machines | Jun 27 13:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #GitHub declares every Friday open source day | Jun 27 13:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: #GitHub declares every Friday open | Jun 27 13:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Lumina Desktop 1.3 Released with Own, Default Material | Jun 27 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Design Icon Themes https://t.co/x4eCCh9Ly8 | Jun 27 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 27 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Desktop 1.3 Released with Own, Default Material Design Icon Themes | Tux Machines | Jun 27 14:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Graphics and Performance: #NVIDIA, #AMDGPU PRO, | Jun 27 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec #GStreamer, #Radeon #Vega, #Vulkan, and #DRM | Jun 27 14:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/DIJytoOr4e | Jun 27 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #nokia #lglg | Jun 27 14:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #oneplus #india #honor | Jun 27 14:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 27 14:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 27 14:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #ArchLinux -Based #ArchEX Distro Updated with #LXQt | Jun 27 14:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.11.1 and #Linux #Kernel 4.11.6 https://t.co/bj5RmjCYJ4 | Jun 27 14:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov Maybe the NSA will be given...' | Jun 27 14:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: Sony's unorthodox take on AI is now open | Jun 27 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #ArchLinux -Based #ArchEX Distro Updated with #LXQt | Jun 27 14:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 0.11.1 and #Linux #Kernel 4.11.6 https://t.co/bj5RmjCYJ4 | Jun 27 14:34 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov Should have moved to #gnu #linux...' | Jun 27 14:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden More &more people ought to confront media/journalists...' | Jun 27 15:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Maybe it's a wakeup call for them:...' | Jun 27 15:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange More &more people ought to confront media/journalists...' | Jun 27 15:30 | |
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| EricCromwell | The error i saw was "not the just Internet/communications level; " instead of "not just the" | Jun 27 15:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/879788794093817856 | Jun 27 15:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879790433001492481 | Jun 27 16:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/879792697514569728 | Jun 27 16:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted: | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | There was a project to use the JavaScript engine of Webkit instead of GJS but it stalled out. Mozilla's Spidermonkey engine doesn't perform badly, but with the way Mozilla has gone, more projects that used to be usable by themselves are being folded into Firefox and having anything that doesn't make sense in the context of Firefox removed, so Gnome may regret going the way that they did with GJS. Not only is the JavaScript engine for Webkit | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | developed outside of the context of a web browser, it's already provided by Webkit's GTK port, which is already a part of Gnome to power anything that needs web rendering capabilities, including the help system, the Gnome Web (Epiphany) browser, and HTML emails in Evolution. | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that it would be once bitten twice shy after the debacle of depending on XulRunner to provide a web engine for Gnome 2.x, especially during the transition from it to Webkit, where Epiphany (Gnome Web) had to have an abstraction layer instead of a rendering engine because it could be compiled with either XulRunner or Webkit for a couple of release cycles. The abstraction layer was awful. It really crippled the browser, and it was | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | the cause of a lot of crashes too. | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Although Gnome now claims that there will be no extension breakage in the future, if they have to change the JavaScript engine that powers the shell, _everything_ could potentially break. I presume that if it comes to that, they'd rather hobble around with a fork of Mozilla's JavaScript engine until they could break compatibility with everything again and call it Gnome 4. It's foolish to expect consistency from Mozilla at this point. | Jun 27 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should also mention that GJS hasn't been smooth sailing lately. It's crashed more times than I care to think about in Fedora 26. They keep adding patches and bumping the version, but it doesn't seem to be getting much more stable, for me at least. | Jun 27 16:11 |
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| XRevan86 | GJS… Isn't that GObject Introspection for JavaScript? | Jun 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | could be a javascript -> native toolchain in gcc :> | Jun 27 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Different versions of mozjs are not fully compatible with each other | Jun 27 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | yet GJS has no troubles migrating from one to another :) | Jun 27 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell. | Jun 27 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome's interface is largely written in JavaScript. | Jun 27 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | A car passed by outside the window with loud music, which is C. C. Catch. | Jun 27 16:20 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | means you can extend it to do just about anything. | Jun 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | btw, are you aware of deep sandboxing support in language implementations other than javascript and java? | Jun 27 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | So even though the default layout is retarded, it can be fixed up with extensions. | Jun 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | (deep as in it doesn't completely hinge on what symbols the sandboxed code is allowed to see) | Jun 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | i guess there's also QuakeC, but i'd rather not adopt that | Jun 27 16:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Maybe the next ads will...' | Jun 27 16:23 | |
| XRevan86 | > It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell | Jun 27 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | It's really literally GObject Introspection bindings for JS | Jun 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 27 16:26 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959738-mate-developers-are-considering-mir-over-wayland?p=959838#post959838 | Jun 27 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MATE Developers Are Considering Mir-Over-Wayland - Phoronix Forums | Jun 27 16:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Broken by default and no obvious way to fix KDE does not equal "the best". | Jun 27 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | Also, littering the system with features that don't work (like inline spell check) is not acceptable. | Jun 27 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | Also, how do you make SDDM scale? There is no setting to make it scale in the KDE control panel. | Jun 27 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is rotting from the inside out. Their last truly great release was 3.5.11. They can't really seem to properly maintain what they currently have, much less take on anything new. | Jun 27 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 16:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | UK human rights record under pressure from UN torture panel | Law | The Guardian | Jun 27 16:37 | |
| DaemonFC | They seem to have a pattern of waiting until everything is working and then trashing it and starting over from scratch. | Jun 27 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | I know that the 5 series is a continuation of the 4 series ported to Qt5, but boy are things deteriorating... | Jun 27 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | Pretending that the applications need to be separated from the desktop is where things seem to have really gone bad. | Jun 27 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: They do need to though. | Jun 27 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like they stopped caring about integration because three or four people in the world might want to use their software on Windows, Mac, or Gnome. | Jun 27 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not having a coherent release of the entire system is really hurting them. | Jun 27 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ah, I thought you mean separation of kdelibs into more modules and better work outside of KDE | Jun 27 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | It creates a mess of combinations that become possible, where instead of "Oh, I'm running KDE 5.10", it's "Well, I'm on suse and they packaged this version of that application on top of this version of the Plasma desktop.". | Jun 27 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | because KDE 5 applications definitely work better outside of KDE than KDE 4 ones were | Jun 27 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's no way to pin problems down to a particular release of the entire project. | Jun 27 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | They use private libs and everything. It's a toxic hellstew, to borrow a phrase. | Jun 27 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | At least with Gnome you can tell someone "My distribution provides Gnome 3.24." and they immediately know what it is that you're running. | Jun 27 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | How to reproduce it. | Jun 27 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | What version of a library that program is using. | Jun 27 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | When there's a bug, being able to reproduce it reliably is key. | Jun 27 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | That explains why GNOME developers always bump their requirements to the max | Jun 27 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Jun 27 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's a self-contained project. | Jun 27 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | Their answer is literally "Well, I'm glad that Cheese works for you in KDE, but we really don't care if it does or not outside of Gnome.". | Jun 27 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: When gettext became self-reliant, GNOME didn't wait and killed intltool in an instant | Jun 27 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to support a million possible combinations is a recipe for disaster. | Jun 27 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | Always wants the latest GTK+ which makes backports very hard (not that I care) | Jun 27 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's bugzilla is turning into something even worse than Ubuntu Launchpad. | Jun 27 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you have a dozen "me toos" and then the bug just becomes a zombie. | Jun 27 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Three years later, you have the same bug and there's still no resolution. | Jun 27 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | I cherry picked some patches this morning. | Jun 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | One was a security vulnerability in systemd. | Jun 27 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR's favorite package. | Jun 27 16:48 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jun 27 16:48 |
| MinceR | a security vulnerability in a massive hairball that was hacked up in c without any care? | Jun 27 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | - Fix an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved (CVE-2017-9445) | Jun 27 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=912516 | Jun 27 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | systemd-233-5.fc26 | Build Info | koji | Jun 27 16:50 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess ready, fire, aim? | Jun 27 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | They'll patch the fuck out of it as they go along. | Jun 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | and introduce new bugs in the process | Jun 27 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | "- Backport a bunch of small fixes (memleaks, wrong format strings, | Jun 27 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | man page clarifications, shell completion)" | Jun 27 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | As in, too many to bother listing. | Jun 27 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: systemd-resolved, nice | Jun 27 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My favorite was a guy who said that he left his CentOS 7 server going for 18 days and systemd was using 4 GB of RAM. | Jun 27 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | https://serverfault.com/questions/755818/systemd-using-4gb-ram-after-18-days-of-uptime | Jun 27 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | linux - systemd Using 4GB RAM After 18 Days of Uptime - Server Fault | Jun 27 16:52 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 27 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | That'ss like the mother of all memory leaks. | Jun 27 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | How the fuck does this end up in RHEL so fast? | Jun 27 16:52 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: if you want to see how cognitive dissonance makes people ignore stimuli, tell our resident systemd shill that | Jun 27 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | Servers are supposed to be reliable enough to stay running for months or years | Jun 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | servers don't matter, though | Jun 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | only poettering's laptop matters | Jun 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | (which is, strangely enough, apparently a multiseat system) | Jun 27 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | There was even the old story about a RHEL system that was accidentally walled off by contractors and nobody noticed until it stopped responding three years later. | Jun 27 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | Those days are gone. | Jun 27 16:54 |
| MinceR | (ok, maybe it's a desktop) | Jun 27 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks, Poettering. | Jun 27 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why is multiseat important on a laptop? | Jun 27 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: It's a reference to logind being important. | Jun 27 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat must be pressuring him to add multiseat because their customers want it. | Jun 27 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why ConsoleKit had to die. | Jun 27 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Personally... | Jun 27 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | It seemed to be doing okay. | Jun 27 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Marion, Indiana public library used Userful Discoverstation to run 20 internet terminals off of one computer. | Jun 27 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was based on Fedora 6. | Jun 27 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | They rebranded everything, but it was still obvious what it was. | Jun 27 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | > Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 16:58 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why is multiseat important at all in 2017? | Jun 27 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | (please don't hack my resolved) | Jun 27 16:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@hackerfantastic @Snowden Live CD: GNU/Linux saves users from...' | Jun 27 17:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 17:00 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They released systemd way too soon in the development process, put it in RHEL mostly untested, and now they're patching it constantly. | Jun 27 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | At least I assume the CVE is about a remote attack | Jun 27 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yet, Red Hat's revenue keeps going up? | Jun 27 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-9445 ** RESERVED ** | Jun 27 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | 19% YoY? | Jun 27 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2017-9445 | Jun 27 17:01 | |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Well, it has more privileges than the user. | Jun 27 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/618 | Jun 27 17:05 |
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| DaemonFC | CVE-2017-9445: Out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved with crafted TCP payload | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Hi, | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | I recently discovered an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved in | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu, which is possible to trigger with a specially crafted TCP payload. | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Details from the Ubuntu bug follow: | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 | Jun 27 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 ) | Jun 27 17:05 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: worse, they used political trickery to force it on other distros as well | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Certain sizes passed to dns_packet_new can cause it to allocate a buffer | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small. A page-aligned number - sizeof(DnsPacket) + | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | sizeof(iphdr) + sizeof(udphdr) will do this - so, on x86 this will be a | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | page-aligned number - 80. Eg, calling dns_packet_new with a size of 4016 | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | on x86 will result in an allocation of 4096 bytes, but 108 bytes of this | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | are for the DnsPacket struct. | Jun 27 17:05 |
| MinceR | then again, debian people should have had a backbone | Jun 27 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | A malicious DNS server can exploit this by responding with a specially | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | crafted TCP payload to trick systemd-resolved in to allocating a buffer | Jun 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | and refused | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small, and subsequently write arbitrary data beyond the end | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | of it. | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I believe this was introduced by | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/a0166609f782da91710dea9183d1bf138538db37 | Jun 27 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: too much pasta | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | (v223) and affects all subsequent versions up to and including v233. | Jun 27 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-resolved: packet - ensure there is space for IP+UDP headers · systemd/systemd@a016660 · GitHub | Jun 27 17:06 | |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | A patch to resolve this has been provided by Zbigniew | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Jędrzejewski-Szmek, along with an additional patch to implement a test. | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Both of these are attached. | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Many thanks, | Jun 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, way too much pasta | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chris | Jun 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | and not enough sauce | Jun 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | or meatballs | Jun 27 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yeah, really lacking | Jun 27 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, it opens up systemd-resolved to attack by a malicious DNS server. | Jun 27 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if your DNS server is malicious, you're kind of screwed anyway. | Jun 27 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | But it's one of those bugs that someone like the NSA might use. | Jun 27 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | Go to ISPs and make them use it to cause systemd-resolved to install malware on your computer. | Jun 27 17:08 |
| MinceR | malicious DNS servers are commonplace | Jun 27 17:08 |
| MinceR | typically of the NXDOMAIN -> ad page kind | Jun 27 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Comcrap before they decided to cut it out? | Jun 27 17:09 |
| MinceR | can't give any specific examples | Jun 27 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint does it too. | Jun 27 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | On my phone. | Jun 27 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | They take you to a shitty search page full of advertisements. | Jun 27 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 27 17:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879809405512011776 | Jun 27 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development Functional #Programming in #JavaScript and | Jun 27 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Learning to Code | Jun 27 17:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gwKqIHdo7W (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 17:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development Functional Programming in JavaScript and Learning to Code | Tux Machines | Jun 27 17:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/akaSassinak/status/879819132534968320 | Jun 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @akaSassinak https://t.co/dOe2A18ZpV (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 27 18:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 27 18:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 27 18:02 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Au0l3ST | Jun 27 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polishing A Rusty Knife - GIF on Imgur | Jun 27 18:14 | |
| cubexyz | if you like old KDE 3.5.10 then try trinity | Jun 27 18:18 |
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| MinceR | done | Jun 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | i'll see if cde (the package manager) can turn exe gnu/linux's tde applications into portable packages :> | Jun 27 18:20 |
| cubexyz | some Russian physicists even made a version for slackware | Jun 27 18:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 27 18:22 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll just install that, then | Jun 27 18:23 |
| MinceR | if it's well-behaved enough | Jun 27 18:23 |
| cubexyz | https://sourceforge.net/projects/tde-slackware/ | Jun 27 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TDE & KDE3 for Slackware download | SourceForge.net | Jun 27 18:23 | |
| cubexyz | well, at least someone is working on it | Jun 27 18:30 |
| cubexyz | I switched to icewm on slack | Jun 27 18:34 |
| cubexyz | but I still use konsole and kolourpaint a lot | Jun 27 18:35 |
| MinceR | i have fvwm mostly set up on slack | Jun 27 18:39 |
| MinceR | i just need to get a gentoo prefix set up so i can install feh | Jun 27 18:39 |
| MinceR | and wmctrl | Jun 27 18:39 |
| MinceR | and terminator (though that's only referred to in the menus) | Jun 27 18:40 |
| MinceR | not sure if those TDE/KDE packages would work on -current | Jun 27 18:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/879832557810061312 | Jun 27 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 27 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas Compute Module 3 (CM3) https://t.co/wmtnYLDXm3 | Jun 27 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Core Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 (CM3) | Tux Machines | Jun 27 18:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 27 18:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #raspi | Jun 27 18:54 |
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| cubexyz | ha, neat | Jun 27 19:59 |
| cubexyz | I got two x2x's running | Jun 27 19:59 |
| cubexyz | one for icewm and one for fvwm | Jun 27 19:59 |
| cubexyz | fvwm had that matrix thing which was nice | Jun 27 20:00 |
| cubexyz | and it had this funky startup which called netscape, xlander, xsnow, etc | Jun 27 20:04 |
| cubexyz | xsnow doesn't seem to work on "modern" systems (note the quotes) | Jun 27 20:14 |
| cubexyz | how about that... | Jun 27 20:16 |
| cubexyz | works with mwm, but not fvwm or icewm | Jun 27 20:16 |
| cubexyz | xsnow also works with twm | Jun 27 20:20 |
| cubexyz | and one can kill an instance of ummm what the best way to call it... | Jun 27 20:23 |
| cubexyz | Xserver instance I guess | Jun 27 20:24 |
| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-backspace only kills one instance so if you have multiple ones running it'll still run the other ones | Jun 27 20:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xsnow-christmas-time-2017.png | Jun 27 20:36 |
| cubexyz | evidently xsnow only snows on the root window | Jun 27 20:42 |
| cubexyz | ok, xsnow 1.42 does work with icewm | Jun 27 20:45 |
| cubexyz | and fvwm | Jun 27 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/879877037930029056 | Jun 27 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/zawNmd4NOv | Jun 27 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix #cli | Jun 27 22:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879918836832772097 | Jun 28 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary #Benchmarks On #Linux | Jun 28 00:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UUb6syBauK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 00:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary Benchmarks On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 00:27 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:45] <EricCromwell> On the Microsoft and NSA wiki page there is a grammatical error I was going to suggest an edit for but oddly, I am blocked, though I have never visited this page before ever. | Jun 28 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Fixed! | Jun 28 00:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary #Benchmarks On #Linux...' | Jun 28 00:53 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: wine project does have it on going limitations. | Jun 28 00:54 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Jun 28 00:58 |
| schestowitz | but it often does OK for things, more so over time | Jun 28 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I tried it a few times over the years | Jun 28 00:58 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the NSA attacks on Dell servers | Jun 28 01:02 |
| cubexyz | DEITYBOUNCE | Jun 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is now carrying 78 patches against systemd | Jun 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 28 01:03 |
| cubexyz | and who worked at Dell? Snowden | Jun 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/diff/0009-journal-prevent-integer-overflow-while-validating-he.patch?h=f26&id=f5f07378296025328eb987f4b38f07a86c059505 | Jun 28 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 01:06 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 28 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/tree/?h=f26 | Jun 28 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | Google Gets Record $2.7 Billion EU Fine for Skewing Searches - Bloomberg | Jun 28 01:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-27/google-gets-record-2-7-billion-eu-fine-for-skewing-searches | Jun 28 01:11 |
| schestowitz | hahahahaha | Jun 28 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Gets Record $2.7 Billion EU Fine for Skewing Searches - Bloomberg | Jun 28 01:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Scrooooooooooooooooooooooooogle | Jun 28 01:14 |
| schestowitz | it's dead | Jun 28 01:16 |
| schestowitz | long dead | Jun 28 01:16 |
| schestowitz | I used to use it | Jun 28 01:16 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: proves the theory that 64 bit numbers can overflow. | Jun 28 01:19 |
| oiaohm | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/tree/0015-basic-don-t-link-libm.so-into-libbasic.so-5628.patch?h=f26 This one is very common. | Jun 28 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | 0015-basic-don-t-link-libm.so-into-libbasic.so-5628.patch - rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 01:22 | |
| oiaohm | Linking libraries that never get used. | Jun 28 01:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9530355 | Jun 28 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA-linked tools help power second global ransomware outbreak http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/ransomware-virus-nsa-petya-hacking-tools-240008 neglecting to mention it targets #microsoft #windows Why? | Jun 28 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | second paragraph only | Jun 28 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> NSA-linked tools help power second global ransomware outbreak - POLITICO | Jun 28 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | imagine if it was Linux | Jun 28 01:22 |
| schestowitz | in headline for sure | Jun 28 01:22 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: still bad | Jun 28 01:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: when I say common -lm is one of the most commonly over linked libraries you find in any package. | Jun 28 01:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: remember NSA had access to windows source code. | Jun 28 01:29 |
| schestowitz | yes, so nobody out there can find the bugs as easily as them | Jun 28 01:31 |
| schestowitz | except maybe some governments | Jun 28 01:31 |
| cubexyz | all of it? every version? | Jun 28 01:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-security-program.aspx just put in a formal request as a government is quite shocking what Microsoft will hand over. | Jun 28 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft | Shared Source Initiative | Jun 28 01:38 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/C/A/BCAFF3F5-5DB5-4AB4-9AAB-5CF0814E0948/GovernmentSecurityProgram.pdf This is a odd version of the description. Current version and in windows 10 .... | Jun 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doesn't ever stop "the news". "Huge Linux vulnerability!" and then Linux turns out to be OpenSSL or Samba. | Jun 28 01:44 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 28 01:46 |
| schestowitz | I confronted some journalists about it yesterday | Jun 28 01:47 |
| schestowitz | They fail to name Windows in headlines for example | Jun 28 01:47 |
| schestowitz | anyway, got to get on with writing now, bbl | Jun 28 01:47 |
| oiaohm | It is a big problem with openssl in particularly thinking a lot of products on windows use openssl. | Jun 28 01:47 |
| cubexyz | because nothing else exists! DUH | Jun 28 01:48 |
| cubexyz | especially on mainstream media | Jun 28 01:48 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/J6z4Eyl.jpg | Jun 28 01:48 |
| oiaohm | https://pydio.com/en/docs/kb/system/setup-https-windowsapache << different people using windows to-do things are using openssl. | Jun 28 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Setup HTTPS on Windows+Apache | Pydio | Jun 28 01:49 | |
| oiaohm | So it really bad to make out a openssl flaw is Linux because windows, os x, Android.... have applications using it. | Jun 28 01:50 |
| cubexyz | that's why the CRA was shutdown for a while | Jun 28 01:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: CRA? | Jun 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | Canada Revenue Agency | Jun 28 01:53 |
| cubexyz | shutdown because of heartbleed | Jun 28 01:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I was sure you did not mean this CRA http://www.catholicreligiousaustralia.org.au/ | Jun 28 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catholicreligiousaustralia.org.au | Welcome | Jun 28 01:55 | |
| cubexyz | too many acronyms, I usually avoid that | Jun 28 01:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: they were also effected by heartbleed. | Jun 28 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879925719631110144 | Jun 28 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows | Jun 28 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Jun 28 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EywuuBU3Nf (techrights.org) | Jun 28 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Techrights | Jun 28 02:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Get the Nasty Party out....' | Jun 28 02:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Get the Nasty Party out. It barely...' | Jun 28 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Samba one turned out to be Samba on a Raspberry Pi, with the default password. | Jun 28 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | They screamed like it was Dirty Cow or something. | Jun 28 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Shit happens, but it's not often that there's some huge exploit like that. | Jun 28 02:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lucasoft_co_uk favourited 'Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary #Benchmarks On #Linux...' | Jun 28 02:47 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Most important open source networking projects | Tux Machines | Jun 28 03:00 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/uaeOkBv.gifv | Jun 28 03:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/879957684123992064 | Jun 28 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary | Jun 28 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Benchmarks On #Linux https://t.co/wnwk5Xgs1T | Jun 28 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary Benchmarks On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 03:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/testing/26/x86_64/repoview/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld.html | Jun 28 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-download1.rpmfusion.org | RepoView: "RPM Fusion Fedora free 26 updates testing - x86_64" | Jun 28 03:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Qtwebkit needs a freeworld package because it doesn't use Gstreamer? | Jun 28 03:19 |
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| schestowitz | on UPC | Jun 28 03:29 |
| schestowitz | "@alex Could you reactivate the petition now that elections have passed?' | Jun 28 03:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/cFkGltm2As | Jun 28 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879991324086325248 | Jun 28 05:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #Microsoft #Windows Armageddon and Other News | Jun 28 05:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Microsoft Windows Armageddon and Other News | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:37 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xinix Offers Linux Lovers a Path to Zen | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A look at Kaku — Media streaming in GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Jun 28 06:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Tux Machines | Jun 28 06:26 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why The Ubuntu Phone Failed | Tux Machines | Jun 28 06:38 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 06:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my | Jun 28 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dear... | Jun 28 06:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 28 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... | Tux Machines | Jun 28 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... ht... | Jun 28 06:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF #android #linux #google' | Jun 28 06:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, | Jun 28 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @glynmoody Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Jun 28 09:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Tux Machines | Jun 28 09:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 09:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/880053635052326912 | Jun 28 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 28 09:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Compute Module 3 (CM3) https://t.co/wmtnYLDXm3 | Jun 28 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Core Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 (CM3) | Tux Machines | Jun 28 09:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 09:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So don't use Windows. It's designed for...' | Jun 28 11:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks So don't use Windows. It's...' | Jun 28 11:13 | |
| schestowitz | BTW, typo in the first among your two paragraphs. Says "Micorosoft". | Jun 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz | re | Jun 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz | https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Elsa | Jun 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz | "Today, June 28th 2017, WikiLeaks publishes documents from the ELSA project of the CIA. ELSA is a geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled devices like laptops running the Microsoft Windows operating system. Once persistently installed on a target machine using separate CIA exploits, the malware scans visible WiFi access points and records the ESS identifier, MAC address and signal strength at regular intervals. To perform the data collection | Jun 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz | the target machine does not have to be online or connected to an access point; it only needs to be running with an enabled WiFi device. If it is connected to the internet, the malware automatically tries to use public geo-location databases from Google or Microsoft to resolve the position of the device and stores the longitude and latitude data along with the timestamp. The collected access point/geo-location information is stored in | Jun 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz | encrypted form on the device for later exfiltration. The malware itself does not beacon this data to a CIA back-end; instead the operator must actively retrieve the log file from the device - again using separate CIA exploits and backdoors." | Jun 28 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to wikileaks.org:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Elsa ) | Jun 28 11:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The "expert". Is that after they...' | Jun 28 11:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That depends on the domain. In politics,...' | Jun 28 11:27 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880090806920638464 | Jun 28 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Wikileaks #CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for | Jun 28 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | WiFi-enabled ... Microsoft Windows" | Jun 28 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jCSik88P8s (www.tuxmachines.org) #elsa | Jun 28 11:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vault7 | Jun 28 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wikileaks CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled ... Microsoft Windows" | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:53 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Wikileaks #CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled...' | Jun 28 12:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks They should get one of these: ...' | Jun 28 13:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/880111973177802752 | Jun 28 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma | Jun 28 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Discover's #Flatpak Backend | Jun 28 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880114093734187009 | Jun 28 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 | Jun 28 13:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #debian | Jun 28 13:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 image | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880114426862555136 | Jun 28 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future | Jun 28 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plans | Jun 28 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9fBWzXjDv0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 13:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #xen #linux | Jun 28 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future Plans | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current...' | Jun 28 13:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880115830603862016 | Jun 28 13:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #NVIDIA 381.10.10 #Vulkan #Linux Driver #Benchmarks | Jun 28 13:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IPYGrbsPpy (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 28 13:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #phoronix | Jun 28 13:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 381.10.10 Vulkan Linux Driver Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880116123081089026 | Jun 28 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further #FOSS | Jun 28 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | community outreach https://t.co/whXnNypn5T | Jun 28 13:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google | Jun 28 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further FOSS community outreach | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:37 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further...' | Jun 28 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880119365508767744 | Jun 28 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wine Staging 2.11 | Jun 28 13:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging #wine #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 28 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.11 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880120676484624384 | Jun 28 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and More | Jun 28 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L7YWC2sIwD (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 28 13:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 28 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Unreal Tournament, STASIS, Super Rocket Shootout and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 13:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine Staging 2.11 https://t.co/hRUjMdnVhp #WineStaging #wine #unix #gnu...' | Jun 28 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880121617908736003 | Jun 28 14:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 14:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L7YWC2sIwD (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 28 14:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 28 14:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Jun 28 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KumOMmadp5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 28 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #kde #freesw #plasma | Jun 28 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 14:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Sn6vzK2BKT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 14:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:12 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Ants | Jun 28 14:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc | Jun 28 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 14:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tablo | Jun 28 14:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @wwwkumotech retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc #android #google #linux #oneplus #tablo' | Jun 28 14:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion | Jun 28 14:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UYKTbKGAnU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 28 14:26 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @EpocaNow favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc #android #google #linux #oneplus #tablo' | Jun 28 14:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion https://t.co/UYKTbKGAnU #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 14:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 15:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More | Jun 28 15:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 28 15:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mir, NVIDIA, OpenGL, RadeonSI and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More ...' | Jun 28 15:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 28 15:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn But there's NO MONEY! The money tree...' | Jun 28 15:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn But there's NO MONEY! The...' | Jun 28 15:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Succinct as usual Mr Boyle. https://t.co/EDVJH0jT3V' | Jun 28 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF #android #linux #google | Jun 28 15:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/880142223010136069 | Jun 28 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More | Jun 28 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA https://t.co/CsHYOThjpd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Graphics | Jun 28 15:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 28 15:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jovinosumicity/status/880145928069550082 | Jun 28 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jovinosumicity https://t.co/Sn6vzK2BKT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:35 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880150595230978052 | Jun 28 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 28 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 15:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 28 15:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #distrowatch #review | Jun 28 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 15:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 15:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 15:58 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, I figured out how to get Qt5 apps to scale properly, at least. | Jun 28 15:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880153285272928256 | Jun 28 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE and Plasma: Release of #Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for | Jun 28 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Live #PLASMA5, and KDE for #FreeBSD | Jun 28 16:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and Plasma: Release of Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for Slackware Live PLASMA5, and KDE for FreeBSD | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880154231558332416 | Jun 28 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust | Jun 28 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Jun 28 16:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/79y1BDLsDa (www.tuxmachines.org) #petya | Jun 28 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Windows Ransomware, Windows in Warships, Zero Trust Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 28 16:06 |
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| cubexyz | re: demostrate NTserver as THE internet platform... dated 1995 | Jun 28 16:08 |
| cubexyz | well, the Freenets used BSD back then | Jun 28 16:09 |
| cubexyz | the TCP/IP stack was introduced to Unix in 4.2BSD | Jun 28 16:12 |
| cubexyz | that was 1982 | Jun 28 16:13 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 28 16:14 | |
| cubexyz | oh and one other point you may find interesting | Jun 28 16:14 |
| cubexyz | the BSD TCP/IP code was used in NT 3.1, macOS and iOS | Jun 28 16:15 |
| cubexyz | also BSD -> SunOS, NeXTSTEP, Ultrix, etc | Jun 28 16:16 |
| cubexyz | and if I was so inclined I could scan for BSD code in NT or win2k | Jun 28 16:18 |
| cubexyz | BeBOX with BeOS also used code from BSD | Jun 28 16:20 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him about your...' | Jun 28 16:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him...' | Jun 28 16:24 | |
| cubexyz | NT 3.5 was using the rewritten TCP/IP stack | Jun 28 16:33 |
| MinceR | "rewritten" | Jun 28 16:36 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Trump loves Indians so much that...' | Jun 28 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164038495416322 | Jun 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU | Jun 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 16:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164269676953602 | Jun 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New | Jun 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/vSt8L0B1Wc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 28 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Adreno Project “Freedreno” Receives New Update | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:43 | |
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| cubexyz | Wollongong Group also used BSD code or at least derived their code from it | Jun 28 16:44 |
| cubexyz | which was allowed of course | Jun 28 16:44 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group made a package for Unix v7 | Jun 28 16:44 |
| cubexyz | also one for the IBM PC | Jun 28 16:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited '#System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU #gnu #linux preloaded....' | Jun 28 16:47 | |
| cubexyz | Wollongong is a reference to the University of Wollongong in Australia but... | Jun 28 16:47 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group was based in California | Jun 28 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165676698218496 | Jun 28 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops | Jun 28 16:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #chromeos | Jun 28 16:48 |
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| cubexyz | anyways going back to my original point: in 1995 you didn't need to use NTserver | Jun 28 16:49 |
| cubexyz | that's just Microsoft FUD | Jun 28 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165959738249216 | Jun 28 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 28 16:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 28 16:49 |
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| cubexyz | in 1995 you could have used Redhat 1.0, or FreeBSD 2.0, or Ultrix 4.5 | Jun 28 16:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 #chromeos...' | Jun 28 16:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/yANUV12YzT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 16:52 | |
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| cubexyz | heck, in 1991 you could buy an HP 9000 running HP-UX | Jun 28 16:52 |
| cubexyz | expensive though | Jun 28 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | I put a fundraiser banner for the GNOME Foundation on my Facebook page. | Jun 28 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm comfortable with that now that Karen Sandler is gone. | Jun 28 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Blew all their money on "Outreach to Women"? How does that happen. I don't see any more women in Free Software after the outreach than before the outreach. | Jun 28 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | Or software at all for that matter. | Jun 28 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile culture. It's like gaming. Well, gaming used to be more inclusive. Before the Video Game Crash of 1986, there were plenty of women in the gaming industry and female lead characters in the games and such. | Jun 28 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | After the crash, Nintendo decided to move their marketing from the electronics section to the toys department at stores. | Jun 28 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | But the toys department was segregated to a boy and a girl section. | Jun 28 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | So Nintendo chose the boy's section. Then they started advertising to boys. Then that spiraled into a bunch of overtly sexist video games and advertising in the 90s which never really stopped. | Jun 28 17:00 |
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| cubexyz | well NES Classic edition was popular | Jun 28 17:12 |
| cubexyz | playing NES games on the HDTV | Jun 28 17:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/880172315706839040 | Jun 28 17:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 17:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 17:13 |
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| cubexyz | proves that if a game is fun, its fun no matter what the graphics look like | Jun 28 17:14 |
| abeNd-org | have you tried the retro freak before? | Jun 28 17:15 |
| cubexyz | nintendo sold 2.3 million of the things | Jun 28 17:15 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.cybergadget.co.jp/retrofreak/en.html | Jun 28 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cybergadget.co.jp | Retro Freak｜Support 12 different types of retro game systems｜CYBER Gadget [ http://ur1.ca/r3m5p ] | Jun 28 17:15 | |
| cubexyz | I have not | Jun 28 17:16 |
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| cubexyz | looks interesting though... I still have a bunch of sega genesis carts | Jun 28 17:17 |
| abeNd-org | yea, my wife who is really into retro gaming got one of those | Jun 28 17:18 |
| abeNd-org | don't have to have a zillion consoles hooked up now | Jun 28 17:18 |
| cubexyz | well I still play a few Loki games | Jun 28 17:19 |
| cubexyz | I sold off all my consoles and I used to have almost everything: | Jun 28 17:19 |
| cubexyz | 3DO, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, SNES, Turbographx-16 | Jun 28 17:20 |
| cubexyz | even the neo-geo, which I kind of regret selling | Jun 28 17:20 |
| abeNd-org | yep, no need to have most of those consoles, just the games, & original (or remade usb/bluetooth) controllers | Jun 28 17:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it has HDMI connectors? | Jun 28 17:21 |
| cubexyz | yeah I see it does | Jun 28 17:22 |
| abeNd-org | yep, the little bit I have tried of it so far it worked pretty nice | Jun 28 17:23 |
| abeNd-org | i wish it had a ethernet port & could read off nfs/smb, but the little 64SDcard ive got should handle pretty much anything that could be thrown at the system | Jun 28 17:24 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't mind being able to use my old sega genesis controllers on the computer actually | Jun 28 17:26 |
| cubexyz | mame and that sort of thing | Jun 28 17:26 |
| abeNd-org | yea, there are usb adapters for all those retro controllers these days, or remade native usb/bluetooth ones | Jun 28 17:27 |
| abeNd-org | that retrofreak can use ps4 controllers even from what the latest update stated | Jun 28 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 381.10.10 Vulkan Linux Driver Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jun 29 01:12 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu MATE's Software Boutique Package Manager Is Getting Support for Snaps | Tux Machines | Jun 29 01:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'd like to interject. | Jun 29 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | What you call Linux is actually Intel Management Engine/systemd/GNU/Linux. | Jun 29 02:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 29 02:14 |
| MinceR | 28 202620 < specing> I would like to interject for a moment. What you call systemd is in fact systemdumb, or, as I've started to call it system+dumb | Jun 29 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | The user should be the one deciding if they want a management engine running and what it is managing, but Intel has designed their processors to freeze up if the firmware for that isn't loaded. | Jun 29 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | systemd-kerneld is a much smaller problem than AMT | Jun 29 02:15 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/abRVh1x.jpg | Jun 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, GNOME going with Nvidia EGL support is a big fuck you to Free Software like Mesa. | Jun 29 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | How has FSF not kicked GNOME out yet? | Jun 29 02:23 |
| oiaohm | systemd comes about all due to ignoring defects and not mandating some solution that addresses those defects. | Jun 29 02:33 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 this is classic what kind of test suite does systemd have. | Jun 29 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day · Issue #6237 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r3t3s ] | Jun 29 02:36 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the fsf stopped caring long ago | Jun 29 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Withholding Nvidia blob support from GNOME would have probably made Nvidia bother to implement support for GNOME themselves using the existing features. | Jun 29 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Why do the heavy lifting for them when so much other stuff in GNOME needs attention? | Jun 29 02:42 |
| MinceR | nothing in gnome needs attention | Jun 29 02:43 |
| MinceR | it's a total waste of resources | Jun 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2028 | Jun 29 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam uses 'execheap' which according to expert ' is really a bad idea' · Issue #2028 · ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r3t8i ] | Jun 29 02:44 | |
| DaemonFC | SELinux blocks it. | Jun 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Really, Linux should just drop support for it and make developers fix their broken software. | Jun 29 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing in the games seems to crash if it gets denied this access, so I told the SELinux troubleshooter to just ignore it and keep blocking. | Jun 29 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm frankly shocked that instead of fixing mprotect to close off the vulnerabilities at their source, it's falling on SELinux to stop attacks. | Jun 29 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | With Steam it's not an attack. It's probably just some bogus usage done by some crap proprietary code. | Jun 29 03:03 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%5EX that execheap is a basic breach of this. | Jun 29 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | W^X - Wikipedia | Jun 29 03:32 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/06/26/3 with the different bits of memory hardening is going into mainline kernel is only a matter of time before its not just SELinux rejecting that crap. | Jun 29 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | kernel-hardening - [PATCH v7 0/3] ro protection for dynamic data [ http://ur1.ca/r3txh ] | Jun 29 03:39 | |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > I think you've seen this one already: | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://danielpocock.com/how-did-the-world-ever-work-without-facebook | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > I think he's come up with the best analogy so far about what Facebook, | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > Twitter and the others do: kettling | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > Because basically that's what shadow bans and similar blocks are doing. | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Operation timed out after 10001 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://danielpocock.com/how-did-the-world-ever-work-without-facebook ) | Jun 29 05:18 | |
| schestowitz | > By the way last I checked in Mastodon, your posts still weren't turning | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | > up in the hashtags when you use them. | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I saw that one an hour and had shared it even twice (because it's good) before you sent it to me. I also mailed it to Rianne. | Jun 29 05:18 |
| schestowitz | Twitter unbanned me yesterday, after ALMOST A WEEK!! | Jun 29 05:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 06:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367402395021312 | Jun 29 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 06:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367696097026049 | Jun 29 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 06:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 06:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880368522236485632 | Jun 29 06:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 06:14 |
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| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6jtnb1/atms_in_ukraine_now_accepting_bitcoin/ | Jun 29 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ATM's in Ukraine now accepting Bitcoin! : Bitcoin | Jun 29 06:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 29 06:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880374918722060288 | Jun 29 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 06:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 06:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 06:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI...' | Jun 29 06:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880375802487091200 | Jun 29 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 06:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880376022193098752 | Jun 29 06:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 06:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KoenP66 favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 06:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880376292952211456 | Jun 29 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 06:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:48 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 06:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378054740258816 | Jun 29 06:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu | Jun 29 06:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE 17.10 | Jun 29 06:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/keb5d629oT (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #lnux | Jun 29 06:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Ubuntu Core, MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and Ubuntu MATE 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378479153381377 | Jun 29 06:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devices and #Android Leftovers: #µduino, “Fandom | Jun 29 06:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition”, #Amazon and #Netfront Browser | Jun 29 06:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UC2Mrexqhi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 06:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Android Leftovers: µduino, “Fandom Edition”, Amazon and Netfront Browser | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:55 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/astarrb/status/880170781841514496 | Jun 29 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 06:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1701068 “motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's ...” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jun 29 06:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378982428028928 | Jun 29 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL, | Jun 29 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenStack Webinar, #SDC 2017 | Jun 29 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rSVsrc9CJK (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 29 06:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 29 06:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Summit Japan, SeaGL 2017, FLISoL, OpenStack Webinar, SDC 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880379475992743936 | Jun 29 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 06:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 06:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 29 07:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381160777555969 | Jun 29 07:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 07:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 07:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 07:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#UbuntuMATE Software Boutique Package Manager Is Getting Support...' | Jun 29 07:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381708423639040 | Jun 29 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 07:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i86amUirXt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 07:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BobYelland retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, #Hyperledger...' | Jun 29 07:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880382061361717248 | Jun 29 07:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 29 07:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE...' | Jun 29 07:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 07:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 07:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 07:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 07:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880387690335797250 | Jun 29 07:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 07:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 07:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880388647249489921 | Jun 29 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 29 07:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7pKB8WHVn8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 29 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 07:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389145578942465 | Jun 29 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 07:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKoAisIt9Y (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 07:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389981277229056 | Jun 29 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i86amUirXt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 07:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880390905072689155 | Jun 29 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 29 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KbXQeMeqxM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 08:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/reddish2/status/880396412659302400 | Jun 29 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @reddish2 #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 08:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvcJvRrpKQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 08:04 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 08:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Is this what you call MAGA? Deals...' | Jun 29 08:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Is this what you call...' | Jun 29 08:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, #System76, and 2017...' | Jun 29 08:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Fake President can only tolerate Fake...' | Jun 29 08:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been screaming at...' | Jun 29 08:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been...' | Jun 29 09:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/29/fc9780aedb200975.mp4 | Jun 29 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | what is this? | Jun 29 10:26 |
| schestowitz | patent trap? | Jun 29 10:26 |
| schestowitz | seems like it's some dubious URL/domain | Jun 29 10:27 |
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| MinceR | not sure about patent status | Jun 29 10:30 |
| MinceR | but pr0gramm.com is hardly dubious | Jun 29 10:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 29 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880433554340986881 | Jun 29 10:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 10:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 10:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 10:32 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Grigortw retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, ok | Jun 29 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I saw this before | Jun 29 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | we watched it here last year | Jun 29 10:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 10:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 10:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 10:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880439786837880832 | Jun 29 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 11:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 11:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/880444184141942787 | Jun 29 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 11:14 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 11:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880450272690130946 | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based on Ubuntu and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880451142358118401 | Jun 29 11:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ihbMyDKC6W | Jun 29 11:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 11:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/880452595785101313 | Jun 29 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 11:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 11:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 11:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880457900652679168 | Jun 29 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry | Jun 29 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FUD, Overhyped #Systemd Bug | Jun 29 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2ZewUilqo4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 12:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OutlawCountry, WatchGuard FUD, SambaCry FUD, Overhyped Systemd Bug | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry FUD, Overhyped #Systemd...' | Jun 29 12:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459389252935680 | Jun 29 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.11.8 and more | Jun 29 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #gpl | Jun 29 12:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 12:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.8 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459606908162049 | Jun 29 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 12:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 12:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.11.8 and more https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi #linux #kernel...' | Jun 29 12:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880460338705170434 | Jun 29 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 13:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lucasoft_co_uk favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 13:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 13:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/880478632241745921 | Jun 29 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: What is Docker? Linux containers | Jun 29 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | explained https://t.co/tpVzyW5U7P (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 14:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vishne0/status/880489026792300545 | Jun 29 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vishne0 https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 14:21 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clouds | Jun 29 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clouds | Jun 29 14:28 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/tM3c9kI | Jun 29 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 29 14:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/W9AYcDZ | Jun 29 14:43 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's effort :) | Jun 29 14:45 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jun 29 14:46 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/WT7Sr | Jun 29 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New favorite twitter account: Effingbirds - Album on Imgur | Jun 29 14:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 15:51 | |
| MinceR | needs more punctuation in the name | Jun 29 15:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/pics/HmJ1b | Jun 29 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh, ok. I guess I'll just brush my teeth in the kitchen sink tonight. - Imgur | Jun 29 16:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-miserable-streak | Jun 29 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Miserable Streak | Jun 29 16:48 | |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/187 | Jun 29 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | It's Always Sunny in Paris - Existential Comics | Jun 29 16:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/880579238209957888 | Jun 29 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 20:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 20:22 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Did she ring him (too) with missiles...' | Jun 29 20:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Did she ring him (too)...' | Jun 29 20:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons out there,...' | Jun 29 20:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons...' | Jun 29 20:27 | |
| cubexyz | ok, another small update... | Jun 29 20:35 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Jun 29 20:35 |
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| cubexyz | evidently multi-function brother printers aren't ideal | Jun 29 20:44 |
| cubexyz | lots of proprietary nonsense to deal with there | Jun 29 20:44 |
| cubexyz | I avoid the dry-up inkjets | Jun 29 20:46 |
| cubexyz | some choices from thinkpenguin: | Jun 29 20:47 |
| cubexyz | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/printer-all-one-gnulinux | Jun 29 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Printers | ThinkPenguin.com | Jun 29 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/880583555482394624 | Jun 29 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: do you still use your old HP laptop? | Jun 29 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Mine is from 2009 | Jun 29 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880591308355665922 | Jun 29 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone | Jun 29 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dRJJo7pcMR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone | Tux Machines | Jun 29 20:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 29 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 20:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited '#Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone ...' | Jun 29 21:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Julian, I noticed and thought...' | Jun 29 21:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Julian, I noticed and thought today, why...' | Jun 29 21:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone ...' | Jun 29 21:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880594150990774272 | Jun 29 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Review: #IPFire as a home router | Jun 29 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FaEnzYcdNo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #security | Jun 29 21:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: IPFire as a home router | Tux Machines | Jun 29 21:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: #IPFire as a home router https://t.co/FaEnzYcdNo ...' | Jun 29 21:12 | |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, yes | Jun 29 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880594937292763137 | Jun 29 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMDGPU -PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. #RadeonSI / #RADV | Jun 29 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H5vZt3uUTq (www.tuxmachines.org) #amd | Jun 29 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDGPU-PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. RadeonSI/RADV | Tux Machines | Jun 29 21:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 29 21:15 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.cubeman.org/linux-hardware.html | Jun 29 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cubeman.org | Linux Hardware | Jun 29 21:16 | |
| cubexyz | a bit out of date | Jun 29 21:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMDGPU -PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. #RadeonSI / #RADV...' | Jun 29 21:19 | |
| cubexyz | I put linux mint 18.1 on the hp nx9030 | Jun 29 21:19 |
| cubexyz | not really an ideal choice for a 1 gig ram machine | Jun 29 21:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880596492356112386 | Jun 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported | Jun 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Linux Releases | Jun 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gXiP7HBcmw (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported Ubuntu Linux Releases | Tux Machines | Jun 29 21:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel | Jun 29 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 21:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It has been normalised - or taken...' | Jun 29 21:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks It has been normalised -...' | Jun 29 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 29 21:26 | |
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| cubexyz | my amiga 500 turned 30 years old this year | Jun 29 21:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880598517772951552 | Jun 29 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite | Jun 29 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vLfEzpde8a (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 29 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat integrates Kubernetes in Red Hat Cloud Suite | Tux Machines | Jun 29 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 29 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 21:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DaveRaven72 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You recently caused a lot of panic...' | Jun 29 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You recently caused a lot of panic...' | Jun 29 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are also dangerously clueless on Korea...' | Jun 29 21:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You are also dangerously clueless...' | Jun 29 21:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MRO_Products/status/880604970466381828 | Jun 29 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite | Jun 29 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MRO_Products https://t.co/vLfEzpde8a (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 29 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 29 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 21:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sockeyes51_bot retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 21:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 29 22:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iridesce57 favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 22:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880610210892656640 | Jun 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's | Jun 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lair and More https://t.co/OpIwRcL3yO | Jun 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux | Jun 29 22:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 22:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's Lair and More | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:18 | |
| schestowitz | [02:19] <cubexyz> not really an ideal choice for a 1 gig ram machine | Jun 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | wow, just one? | Jun 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I have 2 | Jun 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | and same on my previous workstation | Jun 29 22:19 |
| cubexyz | minimalism :) | Jun 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | the one before that: 256mb | Jun 29 22:19 |
| cubexyz | this box I'm typing on has 256 megs | Jun 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | which browser? | Jun 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the Web is now VERY bloated | Jun 29 22:20 |
| cubexyz | mostly dillo | Jun 29 22:20 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | with proprietary fonts, videos.. | Jun 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Jun 29 22:20 |
| cubexyz | I use a bunch of different browsers... | Jun 29 22:21 |
| cubexyz | chromebooks for the latest chrome | Jun 29 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880611315307483136 | Jun 29 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, | Jun 29 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #OpenMP Suite https://t.co/iImYQRNrYr | Jun 29 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Linux on IBM Power, Platform9, Kubernetes, and OpenMP Suite | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #server #gnu #redhat | Jun 29 22:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 22:21 | |
| cubexyz | ff 16 on the vector box | Jun 29 22:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, and...' | Jun 29 22:21 | |
| schestowitz | is it safe still? | Jun 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | some web pages can craft things | Jun 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | esp. if you have JS running | Jun 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | but even without that | Jun 29 22:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's Lair...' | Jun 29 22:23 | |
| cubexyz | well the banks are starting to warn people not to use it for online banking | Jun 29 22:23 |
| cubexyz | also I don't use ff 16 for paypal | Jun 29 22:23 |
| cubexyz | and not for doing taxes | Jun 29 22:23 |
| cubexyz | other than that it's still ok | Jun 29 22:24 |
| cubexyz | I got chrome 56 on the slack box | Jun 29 22:24 |
| cubexyz | I'm not going to upgrade the vector box since it's got all the LGP development stuff and quite a number of the old loki games | Jun 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Jun 29 22:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/880612577767829504 | Jun 29 22:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, | Jun 29 22:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot and #OpenMP Suite https://t.co/iImYQRNrYr | Jun 29 22:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #server #gnu #redhat | Jun 29 22:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 22:36 | |
| cubexyz | quite a lot of stuff actually got broken in KDE 3.5.10 | Jun 29 22:36 |
| cubexyz | but worked in KDE 3.4.2 | Jun 29 22:36 |
| cubexyz | no one ever talks about it now though | Jun 29 22:36 |
| cubexyz | possibly stuff was fixed in trinity, I'm not certain | Jun 29 22:37 |
| cubexyz | I think ksensors got orphaned | Jun 29 22:38 |
| cubexyz | it's not in KDE 4 as far as I know | Jun 29 22:39 |
| cubexyz | ended up just using lm-sensors on the slack box | Jun 29 22:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 29 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880617513255657473 | Jun 29 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in | Jun 29 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | North America https://t.co/PoZ4ptW3ka | Jun 29 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 22:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Rolls Out to Most Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in North America | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus...' | Jun 29 22:43 | |
| cubexyz | KDE doesn't have a good record of keeping things working :-/ | Jun 29 22:43 |
| cubexyz | kooka for example... I really liked it for scanning | Jun 29 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880617561800527872 | Jun 29 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in | Jun 29 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | North America https://t.co/PoZ4ptW3ka | Jun 29 22:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | [03:43] <cubexyz> kooka for example... I really liked it for scanning | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I can't even recall if I ever used it | Jun 29 22:46 |
| cubexyz | I was proud of the fact I wrote my own scanning program in the "old" days | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | reused library? | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly a GUI | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | like SimpleScan | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | there are back ends ready | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | you just need to plug them in | Jun 29 22:46 |
| schestowitz | some scanning software allows rudimentary editing too, e.g. rotation | Jun 29 22:47 |
| schestowitz | I liked XSane | Jun 29 22:47 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus...' | Jun 29 22:47 | |
| cubexyz | no, you see kooka needed the old module to work | Jun 29 22:47 |
| cubexyz | e.g. kooka - hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 29 22:47 |
| schestowitz | ah, familiar... | Jun 29 22:47 |
| cubexyz | e.g. kooka -d hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 29 22:47 |
| schestowitz | same for some Palm OS software | Jun 29 22:47 |
| cubexyz | but now there's no /dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | at some stage the underlying back end break | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | and they can't quite get wired into the 'new' things | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | expect things to exacerbate with systemd | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | another age of digital obsolescence | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | "because PROGRESS!" | Jun 29 22:48 |
| schestowitz | some software used to require alsa | Jun 29 22:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, and...' | Jun 29 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | or OSS | Jun 29 22:49 |
| schestowitz | not sure how xmms would cope with pulseaudio now | Jun 29 22:49 |
| schestowitz | didn't try | Jun 29 22:49 |
| schestowitz | I think I tried back in the days and it failed | Jun 29 22:49 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 there used to be an LKM called "scanner" | Jun 29 22:49 |
| schestowitz | anyway, xmms is abandoned, had a successor | Jun 29 22:49 |
| cubexyz | of course that's long gone | Jun 29 22:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880619114406051844 | Jun 29 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard | Jun 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I miss xmms | Jun 29 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Boards: Orange Pi, Le Potato, and Liteboard | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | simply, light, nice themes I had for it... | Jun 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I still have these on my backups | Jun 29 22:50 |
| cubexyz | I have xmms working on vector still | Jun 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | but not usable because GNU/Linux moved on.... not sure if the repos even have xmms2 | Jun 29 22:50 |
| cubexyz | mostly I just run mplayer at the command line | Jun 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I use vlc these days | Jun 29 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I like being able to play track ranges repeatedly | Jun 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | I used to do that using the command line | Jun 29 22:51 |
| cubexyz | well, that's why I run openbsd on one box... I want to keep the traditional way of doing things | Jun 29 22:51 |
| schestowitz | with 'scripts' | Jun 29 22:51 |
| cubexyz | at least on one machine | Jun 29 22:51 |
| cubexyz | but universality is impossible | Jun 29 22:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 #gnu...' | Jun 29 22:52 | |
| cubexyz | I can test all my programs on everything, but no one else will | Jun 29 22:52 |
| cubexyz | my scanner program also will not work on modern linux | Jun 29 22:52 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~/Main/Programs/Scripts$ cat seekplay.sh | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volO/DJ%20Riko%20-%20Merry%20Mixmas%202004.mp3 -ss 0:40 & | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 200 | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | killall mplayer | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volL/Larry-Heard_Disco.mp3 -ss 33:55 & | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 150 | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | killall mplayer | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volF/Massive%20Attack%20-%20Essential%20Mix.mp3 -ss 2:20 & | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 150 | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | to give you an example | Jun 29 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | but as you can see, the killall command doesn't make it exactly 'clean' | Jun 29 22:53 |
| schestowitz | it worked at the time | Jun 29 22:53 |
| cubexyz | why not just use pkill mplayer ? | Jun 29 22:53 |
| cubexyz | I suppose it's probably the same | Jun 29 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it was clean, just quick and dirty | Jun 29 22:54 |
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| cubexyz | now it's this: | Jun 29 22:56 |
| cubexyz | xscanimage rts8891:libusb:005:002 | Jun 29 22:56 |
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| cubexyz | there's two levels of obfuscation :-/ | Jun 29 22:57 |
| cubexyz | first the device name (that's bad enough) | Jun 29 22:57 |
| cubexyz | but the stupid chip rts8891 is a secret | Jun 29 22:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 #gnu...' | Jun 29 22:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Boards: Orange Pi, Le Potato, and Liteboard | Tux Machines | Jun 29 22:57 | |
| cubexyz | I really blame HP for that | Jun 29 22:58 |
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| cubexyz | but now the complete truth of just how crappy the situation is... | Jun 29 22:59 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/hp-scanner-mail.txt | Jun 29 23:00 |
| cubexyz | you can't replace the scanner glass or the calibration strip | Jun 29 23:00 |
| schestowitz | they're treated like disposabels | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they're treated like disposables | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Nowdays it's hard to find scanners | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | they always come connected to a printer | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | so they can milk you with toner bills | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | and many people use their 'smart' phones to 'scan' things | Jun 29 23:01 |
| cubexyz | officejets are probably combined | Jun 29 23:01 |
| cubexyz | that's what HP sells now | Jun 29 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Our printer came with a scanner that we never used | Jun 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | for years | Jun 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I have a standalone HP scanner from 16 years ago | Jun 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | still worked when I last tried it in 2011 | Jun 29 23:02 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 29 23:02 |
| cubexyz | which one? | Jun 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | you won't find top-desk scanners anymore, or will struggle in high-street shops | Jun 29 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't remember which model I have | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | HP something :-) | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | they use silly numbers | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | not even names | Jun 29 23:03 |
| cubexyz | well, if it's a 4470c you're in luck | Jun 29 23:03 |
| cubexyz | I spent years studying those | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I got mine VERY cheap | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | about 20 bucks | Jun 29 23:03 |
| schestowitz | because I worked in a computer shop | Jun 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz | someone bought a printer/scanner bundle | Jun 29 23:04 |
| cubexyz | I'd buy a NOS one in a second | Jun 29 23:04 |
| schestowitz | but chose not to pick the scanner | Jun 29 23:04 |
| cubexyz | I use a scanner almost every day | Jun 29 23:04 |
| cubexyz | I can't believe HP doesn't make a flatbed scanner | Jun 29 23:05 |
| cubexyz | ok, there's the HP scanjet pro 2500 | Jun 29 23:06 |
| cubexyz | ok, more bad news :-/ | Jun 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe only expensive ones | Jun 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | with high premium for offices and such | Jun 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | the business models changed | Jun 29 23:07 |
| cubexyz | one ubuntu person is using windows in a VM | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | I remember, when we worked at the shop, how the first scanner/printer arrived | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | they sold these as "copying machines" or fax | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | "combo" | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | and if one broke, the whole machine broke | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | not exactly a desirable thing, harder to repair too | Jun 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | they were very expensive at the start | Jun 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | around 2001 | Jun 29 23:09 |
| cubexyz | yes, and before that also | Jun 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I first saw it in my summer job | Jun 29 23:09 |
| cubexyz | I sold scanners in the mid-1990s, the HP ones were quite expensive | Jun 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | after first year in university, IIRC | Jun 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | The days os iPaq | Jun 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Windows on Compaq | Jun 29 23:10 |
| cubexyz | the bad old days :-/ | Jun 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | it was so heavy | Jun 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Hehe, when Microsoft DID have some presence in mobile | Jun 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | so you could you a very retarded version of 'Office' to write some bloated crap in proprietary formats | Jun 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux is now more widely used than Windows | Jun 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | so Microsoft generally bothers me less | Jun 29 23:11 |
| cubexyz | things have been awful for a long time | Jun 29 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880621305858580481 | Jun 29 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/5hZe76b0SJ | Jun 29 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 23:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 23:11 | |
| cubexyz | scanner status is _still_ bad | Jun 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | NSA sabotaged tech | Jun 29 23:12 |
| cubexyz | HP had a perfectly good protocol for scanners called SCL | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | it's moving toward what serves "powers that be" | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Social CONTROL networks | Jun 29 23:12 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Lack of site diversity on the Web | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | More and more JS | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | spying | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | DRM ... now on the Web | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | UEFI | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | TPM | Jun 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | all sorts of restrictions and "apps' that use camera, microphone... | Jun 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | So generally, to understand how tech will evolved... | Jun 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | think along the lines of... | Jun 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | if you are some rich MS executive of Pentagon bigwig | Jun 29 23:13 |
| cubexyz | understanding of tech is decreasing though | Jun 29 23:13 |
| cubexyz | due to obfuscation | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | what would you explore, fund, give VC money to? | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They gave money to Google Earth | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Which turned Google Maps into worldwide CCTV | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Except where nations like China were clever enough to say "No!" | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | money and power | Jun 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | interchangeable | Jun 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | So those with the money and not so much power help the powerful, e.g. by giving them more power, e.g. over mobos (ME) | Jun 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | and they reciprocate | Jun 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | the "customers" or "consumers" are "collateral damage" | Jun 29 23:15 |
| schestowitz | HP is among those that puts yellow pale dots on printed pages | Jun 29 23:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/5hZe76b0SJ #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 29 23:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 23:16 | |
| schestowitz | to help identify who printed what and when | Jun 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | no benefit to the customer there | Jun 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | just waste of ink | Jun 29 23:16 |
| cubexyz | on with my printer :) | Jun 29 23:16 |
| cubexyz | of course, it's 20 years old | Jun 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | and it's not documented how to read/interpret these dots, only the spies have the encoding documented | Jun 29 23:16 |
| schestowitz | no benefit to customers! | Jun 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | At all! | Jun 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | They just pay more for ink | Jun 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | And I don't think they consent to it in the EULA | Jun 29 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Because "national security" and all... | Jun 29 23:17 |
| cubexyz | you could write your own printing program... or is this in the firmware? | Jun 29 23:18 |
| cubexyz | I assume if you cat out a text file it doesn't print the dots | Jun 29 23:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the dots on page and other methods of hidden model and serial number on page of printers is in the printers firmware. | Jun 29 23:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume you could write your own printer firmware :-P | Jun 29 23:20 |
| cubexyz | what so you print out ASCII text you get yellow dots? | Jun 29 23:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have for a x/y plotter. | Jun 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | plotters :-) | Jun 29 23:21 |
| cubexyz | oh a plotter | Jun 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | my friend's dad had one... did lots of CAD for a living. Do any of these still work? | Jun 29 23:21 |
| schestowitz | mechanically, I'd imagine many are knackered, never mind driver support | Jun 29 23:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: laser cutter/water cutter are both just over grown plotters. | Jun 29 23:22 |
| cubexyz | can you fix it? that's the real question | Jun 29 23:22 |
| cubexyz | yeah, probably not, but sometimes one can fix things | Jun 29 23:23 |
| cubexyz | I bet they messed up the plotter protocol too | Jun 29 23:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZ_Qpv328o really plotters are easy to fix. Most laser cutter and water cutters you can rip the controller board out and put a open source controller board in. | Jun 29 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to make an OpenSource Vertical Plotter - YouTube | Jun 29 23:24 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: if it a colour printer you can suspect some form of dots or printer id encoding. Printing ASCII text some of these printer are not smart enough to tell the difference. | Jun 29 23:26 |
| cubexyz | making a scanner sounds interesting | Jun 29 23:27 |
| cubexyz | I know that the older scanners used mirrors to stretch the 2" CCD to 8.5" | Jun 29 23:29 |
| oiaohm | https://linearbookscanner.org/ it would be useful if there was a generic scanner core | Jun 29 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linearbookscanner.org | Linear Book Scanner - The open-source automatic book scanner | Jun 29 23:30 | |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 29 23:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: plotters are easy. Dot matrix/injets/laser get into the camp of hard. | Jun 29 23:32 |
| cubexyz | there's lots of HP NOS scanners on ebay | Jun 29 23:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: more lazer cutters and water cutters you see maker having the selling point open source firmware. | Jun 29 23:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: after deaths and other things caused by malfunctions some places will not touch a laser/water cutter without open source firmware. | Jun 29 23:33 |
| cubexyz | yes, I see what the deal is with the tracking dots now | Jun 29 23:35 |
| cubexyz | so the output is forensically traceable... tricky | Jun 29 23:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: please remember tracking dots are not just printers it photocopiers and the like as well. | Jun 29 23:37 |
| cubexyz | so when did this stuff first appear? | Jun 29 23:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we don't really know. | Jun 29 23:39 |
| cubexyz | my HP laserjet 5N is from 1997 | Jun 29 23:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880631690686853120 | Jun 29 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, | Jun 29 23:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Sonatype, and #Petya #Ransomware https://t.co/cnsyskCKcc | Jun 29 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Security updates, Systemd, Sonatype, and Petya Ransomware | Tux Machines | Jun 29 23:40 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography it appeared some time in the 1990s | Jun 29 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Printer steganography - Wikipedia | Jun 29 23:41 | |
| cubexyz | what about black/white printers? | Jun 29 23:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation what to make a document hard to photocopy. | Jun 29 23:42 |
| cubexyz | they can't print yellow | Jun 29 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | EURion constellation - Wikipedia | Jun 29 23:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfoSecurity99 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, #Sonatype, and #Petya...' | Jun 29 23:42 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: problem here is the yellow dots are detectable so we know about it. | Jun 29 23:42 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, #Sonatype, and #Petya...' | Jun 29 23:43 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: would it be possible to use a different form of stenography to hide the information while only black and white yes. Do we know if they are doing this or not no we don't. | Jun 29 23:45 |
| cubexyz | hey, I'm only printing black and white and my yellow cartridge seems to evaporate :) | Jun 29 23:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yep a reason why if you print mostly black and white own a black and white printer. | Jun 29 23:50 |
| cubexyz | well one guy is saying AFAIK B&W laser printers don't contain tracking codes | Jun 29 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Don't contain yellow dots. Because they cannot. | Jun 29 23:53 |
| cubexyz | if it's obstensibly to track counterfeit money then it's kind of pointless | Jun 29 23:53 |
| cubexyz | money is not black and white | Jun 29 23:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly right. | Jun 29 23:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearer_bond | Jun 29 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bearer bond - Wikipedia | Jun 29 23:55 | |
| cubexyz | I'd say that's sepia colour with a red number stamped on it | Jun 29 23:57 |
| cubexyz | and a purple one :) | Jun 29 23:57 |
| cubexyz | still, it's close to mono-coloured | Jun 29 23:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not all bearer bonds from all countries are coloured. | Jun 29 23:58 |
| oiaohm | All are stamped somehow. | Jun 29 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Really bank notes/currency are really just a more fancy form of a bearer bond | Jun 29 23:59 |
| cubexyz | do they use polymer notes in Australia now? | Jun 30 00:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #libreoffice | Jun 30 00:00 |
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| cubexyz | that would make counterfeiting pretty hard | Jun 30 00:00 |
| cubexyz | oh looks like they do | Jun 30 00:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: our polymer notes have been counterfieted a few times. | Jun 30 00:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2016/04/12/new-5-australian-note-vomit-and-hideous So far look is bad no one has worked out how to copy this one yet. | Jun 30 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sbs.com.au | New $5 Australian note is 'vomit-like' and 'hideous' | SBS Your Language | Jun 30 00:06 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a tilt angle image in the note that give the appearance of a humming bird flapping it wings. | Jun 30 00:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the old 5 dollar bill had a laugh of a problem one side is the a fairly good blue print of the current parliament house | Jun 30 00:12 |
| cubexyz | some canadian 5 dollar bills got "spocked" | Jun 30 00:12 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_five-dollar_note#/media/File:Wilfrid_Laurier_in_1907_%28Spocked%29.JPG | Jun 30 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Canadian five-dollar note - Wikipedia | Jun 30 00:13 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://currencyguide.eu/aud-en/5aud-en.html 2014/2015 78 counterfeit Australian 5 dollar bills were detected so the bill is been redesigned because it was not hard enough. | Jun 30 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-currencyguide.eu | Australian 5 dollar note - Counterfeit money detection: know how | Jun 30 00:13 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the new bill is going to be a up hill battle to fake. | Jun 30 00:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: polymer + multi direction images that can be quickly checked make a really hard to copy note. | Jun 30 00:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the first counterfieted australia notes were done poorly using overhead projector plastic. | Jun 30 00:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: first counterfeited polymer notes to be correct. | Jun 30 00:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so polymer is only part of solution. | Jun 30 00:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @eniogemmo (paper.li) Thanks to @carlo_rios @tuxmachines @Jay7t #odf | Jun 30 01:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #libreoffice | Jun 30 01:20 |
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| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/189 | Jun 30 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Pythagoreans - Existential Comics | Jun 30 01:23 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/31/surveillance_law_compulsion/ | Jun 30 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | UK surveillance law raises concerns security researchers could be 'deputised' by the state • The Register | Jun 30 01:44 | |
| cubexyz | I didn't know the pythagoreans killed people | Jun 30 01:49 |
| cubexyz | and don't watch too much tv: | Jun 30 01:52 |
| cubexyz | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/178 | Jun 30 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Door to Door Existentialism - Existential Comics | Jun 30 01:52 | |
| cubexyz | hmm, they messed up the perspective in that one | Jun 30 01:52 |
| MinceR | the author got a graphician since then | Jun 30 01:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Fujitsu and #SUSE, Packages Updates in #Tumbleweed | Jun 30 02:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4eeiKqR2KK (www.tuxmachines.org) #opensuse | Jun 30 02:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu and SUSE, Packages Updates in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 30 02:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | Installed Linux 4.11.8. Not too many patches that affect my computer this time. Maybe a few bugs, but it also closes a couple of potential security vulnerabilities. | Jun 30 02:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 03:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880700170706595840 | Jun 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #Microsoft #Windows as Attack Vector and More | Jun 30 04:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880713611831889920 | Jun 30 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take | Jun 30 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out https://t.co/KQ5Bx0uDNp (www.tuxmachines.org) #nhs | Jun 30 05:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu... https://t.co/KjjSLc3cUk | Jun 30 05:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS Windows take out | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://w... | Jun 30 05:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KOBYzC6IcF #android #linux' | Jun 30 05:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9544799 | Jun 30 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/102521 #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #uk #nhsubuntu #freedom #security | Jun 30 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | good news.... | Jun 30 05:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take...' | Jun 30 05:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880714526987079680 | Jun 30 05:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Jun 30 05:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrfusNvZtw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender3d #freesw #gnu #linux #art #nl | Jun 30 05:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/29/15892658/microsoft-windows-10-controlled-folders-feature | Jun 30 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Windows 10 will hide your important files from ransomware soon - The Verge | Jun 30 05:12 | |
| DaemonFC | "unfriendly applications" -Windows | Jun 30 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Jun 30 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Carlin was still alive, he could add it to his soft language routine. | Jun 30 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's not malware that installs itself because you visited a web page. It's an "unfriendly application". | Jun 30 05:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880715211216498691 | Jun 30 05:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | *Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in | Jun 30 05:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flavors, Here's What's New | Jun 30 05:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SdsIp1Uzjc (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 05:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 (Artful Aardvark) Out for Opt-in Flavors, Here's What's New | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | Anyway, let's see how long that holds up before the malware figures out how to inject itself into a "trusted application". | Jun 30 05:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware Malware is a generic term. | Jun 30 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, Microsoft will bless their own software and lock out competitors. Want to use LibreOffice but limit access to the folder? Tough noogies! | Jun 30 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware ) | Jun 30 05:15 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: unfriendly application does not cover a script/active content.... Must be an binary executable. | Jun 30 05:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for...' | Jun 30 05:16 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: might be a more correct term but for most general users it just confuses them. | Jun 30 05:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jun 30 05:18 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox really windows 10 controlled folder feature is partly what flatpak is working in the direction of. | Jun 30 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub | Jun 30 05:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts | Jun 30 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 30 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #OpenSecurityController @LinuxFoundation | Jun 30 05:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernels and Linux Foundation Efforts | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880717734719475713 | Jun 30 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, #Keysign, and #GNOMEFoundation Statement | Jun 30 05:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/C1rMIb17LU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 30 05:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Builder, Keysign, and GNOME Foundation Statement on Immigration Ban | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:23 | |
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| schestowitz | all: | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | >> It'll be quiet soon. I'll catch up with uspto drafts then... | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > Great. | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > In Europe, for obtuse types like myself, can one of the EPO articles | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > provide a concise summary of why the staff are on strike? | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > By the way, this showed up: | Jun 30 05:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR #linux...' | Jun 30 05:24 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > Last not least, its clear to some of us since years now | Jun 30 05:24 |
| schestowitz | > that these lads want to restrict ABI access and build a | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > full vertical stack that puts a machine completely | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > under systemd's control from its boot - a sort of | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > revamp of the "trusted computing" weird techno-fascist | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > dream | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > Before you think I'm crazy in writing what I wrote, | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > please have a look at the US patent 20150040216-A1 | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > "Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > Interfaces" filed by Paul Moore, Dan Walsh and Lennart | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > Poettering on behalf of Red Hat inc. | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170630.070231.3eff71f4.en.html | Jun 30 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance! | Jun 30 05:25 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.google.com/patents/US20150040216 | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > That patent supports the possibility I suggested years ago that systemd | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > aims to become a vehicle for DRM in Linux. Since Torvalds opposes DRM | Jun 30 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent US20150040216 - Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary Interfaces - Google Patents | Jun 30 05:25 | |
| schestowitz | > and he still controls the kernel despite some people's efforts, they | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to go around him and insert themselves between userspace and the | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > kernel. | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > Red Hat seems to be making good on the threats M$ put forth in the | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | > Halloween documents about decommoditizing the software. | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | I will share this in IRC and see if someone has additional input | Jun 30 05:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oiaohm : systemd ^? | Jun 30 05:25 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp that patent is the seccomp-bpf patent. | Jun 30 05:29 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://lwn.net/Articles/475019/ I do question how valid that patent is for historic reasons. | Jun 30 05:34 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: sandboxing syscalls was not exactly new. http://subterfugue.org/ userspace implementation of it from 2001 and before that had defects. | Jun 30 05:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-subterfugue.org | SUBTERFUGUE | Jun 30 05:38 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so really is another knee jerk redhat who has not read history of the features. What is covered by that patent was doable without kernel features. Kernel features make it work without the massive number of strange failures. | Jun 30 05:41 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/als15_manolov.pdf really if you want a feature that does not look like sandboxing and looked a lot like Digital rights management you would not be looking past IMA. | Jun 30 05:45 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: as with all things in software a lot of things have more than 1 use. | Jun 30 05:45 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: fair enough | Jun 30 05:52 |
| MinceR | yet another reason to distrust ratcrap and avoid letting them have power over our infrastructure | Jun 30 05:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/880723255870586880 | Jun 30 05:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that patent the person used for the base of their argument is standard sand-boxing. Really your straight up distrust Redhat clouds your judgement. A person argue over it redhat should have that patent due to prior art and the google authors name not on the patent would be real issue. | Jun 30 06:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my point of view the prior art is not redhat so redhat should not have that patent. | Jun 30 06:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the patent was not about Digital rights mangement. Some of the IMA patents do read a lot more like DRM. | Jun 30 06:02 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: i'm not installing your malware. deal with it. | Jun 30 06:07 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: sandboxing methods are one of the control solutions against malware. | Jun 30 06:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't want cancerd, even in a sandbox, if i can help it. | Jun 30 06:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the technology has to be developed and tested by something. The bpf secomp stuff that end up linked to containers could out of chrome/chromuim OS and Android work and a little systemd. | Jun 30 06:30 |
| oiaohm | https://www.linux.com/blog/top-10-developers-and-companies-contributing-linux-kernel-2015-2016 absolutely avoiding redhat work and using the Linux kernel is impossible. | Jun 30 06:33 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there has to be a point of realistic look at what redhat is doing and working out what is good and bad out of what they are doing. | Jun 30 06:34 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you still don't see the conflict between the concepts of "testing" and "stable release"? | Jun 30 06:34 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: "there has to be a point of realistic look at what microsoft is doing and working out what is good and bad out of what they are doing." | Jun 30 06:34 |
| MinceR | sure is! it's just that i don't have the time for that | Jun 30 06:35 |
| MinceR | i especially don't have the time to audit all of cancerd. | Jun 30 06:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I don't see the conflit the way you are because sysvinit never in fact had a full formal stable release. | Jun 30 06:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it was replacing one bit of testing quality software with another bit of testing quality software. Yes why sysvinit had a huge number of bugs it it was not stable. | Jun 30 06:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: please keep your equivocation to someone who cares for it. | Jun 30 06:36 |
| oiaohm | The parts are were using with sysvinit were not properly audited either. | Jun 30 06:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, let me guess -- you also don't understand the conflict between "testing" and "forcing stuff on other distributions and their users" | Jun 30 06:37 |
| MinceR | sysvinit is demonstrably, objectively far smaller than cancerd, therefore far less costly to audit | Jun 30 06:38 |
| oiaohm | That is a problem. Embedded conference covered that very point. | Jun 30 06:38 |
| oiaohm | Turns out sysvinit script system is heavier to audit than systemd in lines of code that need auditing. | Jun 30 06:39 |
| oiaohm | So that arguement you just made is bogus. | Jun 30 06:39 |
| oiaohm | Of course most stuff is never properly formally audited. | Jun 30 06:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 06:40 |
| oiaohm | Systemd would not be half the mess it is if formal auditing like sel4 does was mandated. | Jun 30 06:40 |
| MinceR | now you're just plain bullshitting | Jun 30 06:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no I am not bullshitting. | Jun 30 06:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: most people fail to include auditing the shell script engine. | Jun 30 06:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with their sysvinit numbers. | Jun 30 06:41 |
| MinceR | there is no "shell script engine" in sysvinit. | Jun 30 06:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it does not work without it. | Jun 30 06:41 |
| MinceR | prove that. | Jun 30 06:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you can boot sysvinit with /bin/sh removed? | Jun 30 06:42 |
| MinceR | sure can | Jun 30 06:42 |
| MinceR | not that i'd want to | Jun 30 06:42 |
| oiaohm | funny the default shell scripts asked for that. | Jun 30 06:42 |
| MinceR | i'm not the one with a crippling fear of shell scripting | Jun 30 06:42 |
| MinceR | what default shell scripts? | Jun 30 06:43 |
| oiaohm | In the sysvinit package. | Jun 30 06:43 |
| MinceR | i guess you mean rc, then | Jun 30 06:43 |
| MinceR | which is not init, of course | Jun 30 06:43 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit includes the rc. Its not just init. | Jun 30 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Never was. | Jun 30 06:43 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 30 06:44 |
| MinceR | so in oiaohm's world, sysvinit is "not just init", but systemd is just an "init system" | Jun 30 06:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what drugs are you on? | Jun 30 06:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit define is init and basic service management | Jun 30 06:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: by it own manuals | Jun 30 06:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not that I am on drugs I have read what is meant to provided by sysvinit by it own manuals. | Jun 30 06:45 |
| MinceR | the sysvinit process can do rudimentary service management | Jun 30 06:46 |
| MinceR | in practice it's only used for getty-s, iirc | Jun 30 06:46 |
| MinceR | not sure how much triggering rc would count there | Jun 30 06:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: part of a make install of sysvinit installs your basic shared functions and init.d and rc directories. | Jun 30 06:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so all that stuff is part of the sysvinit package. | Jun 30 06:48 |
| MinceR | since when does an audit care about how a particular distro packages software? | Jun 30 06:49 |
| MinceR | i guess that's also why you wouldn't audit glibc when considering cancerd :> | Jun 30 06:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not distribution packaging that is how upstream gnu and sysv packaged sysvinit. | Jun 30 06:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://git.suckless.org/sinit/tree/ If you are talking about something that is just a init you would be talking about something like this. | Jun 30 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.suckless.org | sinit - suckless init | Jun 30 06:50 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality is sysvinit is a init + extras and always has been. | Jun 30 06:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i've got bad news for you -- the official systemd source code includes shell scripts | Jun 30 06:51 |
| MinceR | and yes, i do (in theory) prefer simpler inits to sysvinit | Jun 30 06:51 |
| MinceR | but none of this bullshitting can make sysvinit approach the bloat of cancerd | Jun 30 06:51 |
| oiaohm | The service management side of sysvinit has been a living disaster that has need a rework for years. | Jun 30 06:54 |
| oiaohm | In fact decades. | Jun 30 06:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: at embedded developer worked up what was required to be audited for full functional system using systemd and sysvinit. It was kinda shocking how big sysvinit was with all the independant fragments pulled in. | Jun 30 06:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it's a pity that in your favorite pet project, it's exactly the "work" that's missing | Jun 30 06:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, then don't look at cancerd's requirements -- they may shock you | Jun 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | They did look at the systemd requirements. | Jun 30 06:57 |
| MinceR | with closed eyes, like you? | Jun 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 30 06:57 |
| oiaohm | This was a pure compare. | Jun 30 06:57 |
| MinceR | funny, i didn't know they had embedded "developer"s at redhat | Jun 30 06:58 |
| oiaohm | Something you have never done. | Jun 30 06:58 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure it was | Jun 30 06:58 |
| oiaohm | No this was no redhat. | Jun 30 06:58 |
| oiaohm | This was the guy who found that journald could be removed. | Jun 30 06:58 |
| oiaohm | even that the systemd documentaiton did not mention it clearly. | Jun 30 06:58 |
| MinceR | i found something else: the rest of cancerd could be removed too | Jun 30 06:58 |
| MinceR | lol, "systemd documentation" | Jun 30 06:58 |
| oiaohm | It was in fact mentioned. | Jun 30 06:59 |
| oiaohm | Just poorly worded. | Jun 30 06:59 |
| MinceR | did you expect poorly written code come with well-worded documentation? | Jun 30 06:59 |
| MinceR | s/come/to come/ | Jun 30 06:59 |
| oiaohm | That is what is so strange about systemd. It as very well written specifications in documentation then no tools using those specifications to audit the code made. | Jun 30 07:00 |
| oiaohm | Normally well written specifications equals quality code and systemd manages to prove that wrong. | Jun 30 07:01 |
| MinceR | how do they specify its scope? | Jun 30 07:01 |
| oiaohm | They specific the scope of each program in systemd. They openly worded the specification of the complete project to contain everything required to boot and manage services. | Jun 30 07:02 |
| MinceR | one of the shell scripts that come with systemd also uses awk | Jun 30 07:02 |
| MinceR | so you also get to audit awk | Jun 30 07:02 |
| oiaohm | They did fail to include shutdown in the specification. | Jun 30 07:02 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 07:02 |
| oiaohm | In the first versions. | Jun 30 07:02 |
| oiaohm | So yes those systemd failures to shutdown was in fact to the written specification. | Jun 30 07:03 |
| MinceR | so they did specify a scope, but did not follow it | Jun 30 07:03 |
| MinceR | systemd does many things that do not fit in "everything required to boot and manage services." | Jun 30 07:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: manage services end up insanely broad. | Jun 30 07:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: name something you think is not under that define. | Jun 30 07:05 |
| MinceR | no, not normally | Jun 30 07:06 |
| MinceR | only if it's your excuse for trying to take over everything. | Jun 30 07:06 |
| oiaohm | udev starts services in response to devices being connected. This magically end up as excuse to be in systemd. | Jun 30 07:07 |
| MinceR | examples that don't fit: ntp client, dns cache | Jun 30 07:07 |
| MinceR | web server | Jun 30 07:07 |
| MinceR | firewall | Jun 30 07:07 |
| MinceR | container provisioner | Jun 30 07:07 |
| oiaohm | container provisioner is under service management directly so you know if your services are a live or dead. | Jun 30 07:08 |
| MinceR | then the container should be a service | Jun 30 07:08 |
| MinceR | not part of the service manager | Jun 30 07:08 |
| MinceR | if you confuse services with the service manager, of course everything will end up being in scope | Jun 30 07:08 |
| oiaohm | Note they did not write service manager. They wrote manage services | Jun 30 07:09 |
| MinceR | so now that you're out of arguments, you start mincing words | Jun 30 07:09 |
| oiaohm | No this is the wording of the systemd specification. Is not the web server in there to provide a web interface to control services? | Jun 30 07:10 |
| MinceR | no, to read logs | Jun 30 07:10 |
| MinceR | (which is also ludicrous) | Jun 30 07:10 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I was thinking cockpit. | Jun 30 07:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.service.html you are refering to this right. | Jun 30 07:14 |
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| MinceR | yes | Jun 30 07:14 |
| MinceR | is cockpit a part of systemd? | Jun 30 07:14 |
| oiaohm | It was to be merged and one point. Some parts made it. | Jun 30 07:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 07:14 |
| MinceR | so that makes 2 web servers in systemd | Jun 30 07:14 |
| MinceR | are there any more web servers in there? | Jun 30 07:14 |
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| oiaohm | That journal log by http/https comes from cockpit. | Jun 30 07:15 |
| oiaohm | there is in fact a valid reason for it. | Jun 30 07:15 |
| MinceR | sure there is | Jun 30 07:15 |
| oiaohm | A valid data security reason. | Jun 30 07:15 |
| MinceR | i always wanted my "init system" to have a web server built into it | Jun 30 07:15 |
| MinceR | if it has several built in, that's even better | Jun 30 07:15 |
| oiaohm | What is the odds that tcp will miss a bad packet due to its checksum method. | Jun 30 07:16 |
| MinceR | pretty damn low | Jun 30 07:16 |
| MinceR | but i guess tcp was Not Invented Here, so we'll eventually have poettering reinvent it | Jun 30 07:16 |
| oiaohm | 1 in 2^16 failure rate. | Jun 30 07:17 |
| MinceR | and of course if i use ssh or sftp to access logs, that adds its own integrity checking | Jun 30 07:17 |
| oiaohm | http/https can both use MD5, SHA1, SHA 256 lot lower miss of bad packet. | Jun 30 07:18 |
| MinceR | they can also use many other algorithms | Jun 30 07:18 |
| MinceR | another funny thing: https://serverfault.com/questions/755818/systemd-using-4gb-ram-after-18-days-of-uptime | Jun 30 07:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so that webserver on the logs if it solid made does make some sense. | Jun 30 07:19 |
| MinceR | no, it does not | Jun 30 07:19 |
| MinceR | i bet pretty much any webserver that wasn't written by poettering is far more robust | Jun 30 07:19 |
| MinceR | that was the case with the other gratuitous functionality like ntp and dns as well | Jun 30 07:19 |
| MinceR | surprise, surprise: poettering is not an expert at ntp or dns either | Jun 30 07:20 |
| MinceR | chances are he's also not an expert at http or tls/ssl | Jun 30 07:20 |
| MinceR | and before you start attacking my words: specifically consider lighttpd, apache | Jun 30 07:21 |
| MinceR | nginx | Jun 30 07:21 |
| oiaohm | http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/tutorials/tls_cert_summary.html tls/ssl for anything doing remote logging to have better chksumming that tcp had been common. | Jun 30 07:21 |
| MinceR | maybe even thttpd | Jun 30 07:21 |
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| MinceR | yeah, so? | Jun 30 07:21 |
| MinceR | tls/ssl works fine without http | Jun 30 07:22 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said some sense not meaning absolute sense. | Jun 30 07:22 |
| MinceR | nothing is absolute | Jun 30 07:22 |
| oiaohm | http part was optional the tls not so much. | Jun 30 07:22 |
| MinceR | there is no technology that will guarantee hardware or software to function perfectly well with a probability of 1 | Jun 30 07:22 |
| MinceR | we were talking about the folly of building a web server into an "init system", though | Jun 30 07:22 |
| MinceR | you can do web service without tls or ssl, but you can't do it without http | Jun 30 07:23 |
| oiaohm | That is where http comes in from the systemd guys as in http not encrypted you can add extra packet checksumming. | Jun 30 07:24 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jun 30 07:24 |
| oiaohm | So it kind of make sense in horrible ways. | Jun 30 07:24 |
| MinceR | no, not really | Jun 30 07:25 |
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| MinceR | and of course if your log viewer webserver built into your "init system" relies on a tls/ssl implementation (like openssl or nss or gnutls), you also get to audit that | Jun 30 07:26 |
| MinceR | see where scope creep leads? | Jun 30 07:26 |
| MinceR | at least sh, awk and the tls/ssl library has a well defined interface, unlike anything inside systemd | Jun 30 07:26 |
| oiaohm | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3195 have you ever looked the syslog specifications. | Jun 30 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tools.ietf.org | RFC 3195 - Reliable Delivery for syslog | Jun 30 07:27 | |
| MinceR | so at least you'll have something you can rely on, unlike in your favorite hairball/spaghetti code | Jun 30 07:27 |
| oiaohm | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5424/?include_text=1 even the newest version. You are totally dependant on tcp checksums. | Jun 30 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | RFC 5424 - The Syslog Protocol | Jun 30 07:28 | |
| oiaohm | So if you want syslog to make it and be to standard you have to wrap it in tls. | Jun 30 07:29 |
| MinceR | what is the threat model you're working with? | Jun 30 07:29 |
| oiaohm | That is logs not eaten by defective hardware or at least raising alarm when hitting defective hardware. | Jun 30 07:30 |
| MinceR | defective hardware is extremely unlikely to cause faults that are not detected even by a simple crc | Jun 30 07:31 |
| oiaohm | do not call 1 in 2^15 extremely unlikely That is in the range of possible bad luck. | Jun 30 07:32 |
| oiaohm | Opps 1 in 2^16 | Jun 30 07:32 |
| oiaohm | 1 in 65536 to put in numbers | Jun 30 07:33 |
| oiaohm | TCP is a old school 16 bit crc. | Jun 30 07:34 |
| MinceR | how far are you even sending logs? | Jun 30 07:34 |
| oiaohm | That is a very good question. Some organisations it can be the other side of the earth. | Jun 30 07:35 |
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| MinceR | you're sending logs to the other side of the earth without encryption? | Jun 30 07:36 |
| MinceR | and all you're worried about is the hardware being broken? | Jun 30 07:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: scary part is some router companies when they ask users to press the send to home do. | Jun 30 07:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, that is scary | Jun 30 07:37 |
| oiaohm | Its some of these insane groups asking for some of these features. | Jun 30 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Also if it routing by vpn because there is vpn network you don't want double encrypting. | Jun 30 07:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: personally I would have though it more sane to extend the syslog rfc and add checksumming support. | Jun 30 07:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sometimes when you see strangeness in systemd and you go look at what should be standard conforming way todo you find one very strange unfixed bug. | Jun 30 07:41 |
| MinceR | what if someone tries to modify logs en route? | Jun 30 07:41 |
| MinceR | once again, this whole issue does not belong in an "init system" | Jun 30 07:41 |
| MinceR | and it is not "service management" | Jun 30 07:41 |
| MinceR | it's remote logging and as such it should be done by a separate service | Jun 30 07:41 |
| MinceR | and one should not mix up remote logging with a log viewer webapp anyway | Jun 30 07:42 |
| oiaohm | journald does spin up separate binary services. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.html# | Jun 30 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | systemd-journal-gatewayd.service | Jun 30 07:43 | |
| MinceR | pity journald itself is not a separate, well-contained service | Jun 30 07:44 |
| MinceR | just yet another systemd part they tried to force on users | Jun 30 07:44 |
| oiaohm | remote viewer and remote logger are kinda linked. The gatewayd is remote access server to get logs and then is able to see what parts of the log it has then get the differences. | Jun 30 07:47 |
| MinceR | polling? are we trying to give an intruder extra time to hide their tracks or what? | Jun 30 07:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its a different usage case. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-upload.html this is like you normal rsyslog stuff. Where it send and send and sends. | Jun 30 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | systemd-journal-upload | Jun 30 07:55 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: gatewayd with the log viewer is for polling setups. | Jun 30 07:56 |
| MinceR | then we're back to journal-gatewayd being a pointless feature | Jun 30 07:56 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly pointless gatewayd aligns to snmp log polling | Jun 30 07:58 |
| oiaohm | What is also horriblely lacking checksumming. | Jun 30 07:58 |
| oiaohm | Opps smnp log polling | Jun 30 07:59 |
| oiaohm | dam I just mixed that up the wrong way. | Jun 30 08:00 |
| MinceR | oh yeah, snmp is yet another thing that is not service management and that doesn't belong in an init system | Jun 30 08:01 |
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| oiaohm | manage services systemd included logging and reporting logging to id issues. It all comes down to what manage services covers if systemd has feature expanded outside specification or is to specification. | Jun 30 08:04 |
| oiaohm | The wording of systemd specification is just taken one way is just insanely broad. | Jun 30 08:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, like i said, it apparently included everything | Jun 30 08:09 |
| MinceR | if interpreted this way, that scope definition is perfectly useless | Jun 30 08:09 |
| MinceR | (which again shows that poettering is utterly clueless about software engineering) | Jun 30 08:09 |
| MinceR | (and apparently ratcrap doesn't have anyone who could correct this for them, either) | Jun 30 08:10 |
| oiaohm | Might not be him in this case I have seen management hand down equally stupid instructions. | Jun 30 08:10 |
| MinceR | well, their management is either incompetent or malicious or both | Jun 30 08:10 |
| oiaohm | Redhat projects have a long historic of badly define specifications. More often way too narrow to being unworkable. But they do have the rare case of going competely the other ay. | Jun 30 08:11 |
| oiaohm | ay/way | Jun 30 08:12 |
| MinceR | that makes me glad to not work for them | Jun 30 08:12 |
| oiaohm | I am more likely to say 20+ years of incompetent specification defining due to the track record. | Jun 30 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Than directly malicious. | Jun 30 08:13 |
| MinceR | yeah, openly malicious seems to be newer than 20 years for them | Jun 30 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Please note some of redhat operating specification state that they must share what they are doing with other distributions for feed back. | Jun 30 08:15 |
| oiaohm | Of course not defined clearly how to-do that. | Jun 30 08:15 |
| oiaohm | the more I look at redhat the more I see management not the best done. | Jun 30 08:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjflNTd2kho I think I have shown this one. It kind of shows management issues. If someone did not go looking fe-legal would still be a black hole. | Jun 30 08:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: you have to wonder what else in redhat is a black hole. | Jun 30 08:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Doctor Dekker', Paradox, and Micro Machines World Series | Jun 30 10:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Devices With #Linux: #Tesla Cars, 'Internet of Things', | Jun 30 11:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 30/6/2017: Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1, Mozilla Employee | Jun 30 12:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antergos: User-Friendly Desktop, Fueled by the Power of Arch | Tux Machines | Jun 30 12:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880826039907254273 | Jun 30 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Jun 30 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/2CfCkev1at (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 30 12:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/8g0eSCiRWL (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Tux Machines | Jun 30 12:38 | |
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| schestowitz | I think I'm back for good to KDE | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | KF5 | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | It works OK now | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | no more bugs | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | first time bask since 2015 | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | after 15 years with it | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | I had tearing issues | Jun 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the pointer, helped me solve it. OpenGL 3.1 backend. No more tearing now. I think... or hope (so far, so good) | Jun 30 13:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemqVWi_R0k | Jun 30 13:16 |
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| MinceR | and i'm back for good to fvwm | Jun 30 13:16 |
| MinceR | it has sloppyfocus that actually works properly | Jun 30 13:16 |
| MinceR | and it gives me more control over windows than any other wm :> | Jun 30 13:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Migration for Users | Jun 30 13:26 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 13:26 |
| MinceR | smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880839813259300864 | Jun 30 13:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/HiNF5EOY0k | Jun 30 13:27 |
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| MinceR | https://qz.com/1010684/all-the-wellness-products-american-love-to-buy-are-sold-on-both-infowars-and-goop/ | Jun 30 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 13:27 | |
| XRevan86 | Oh boy, linphone-desktop 4.0 has been released. | Jun 30 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://linphone.org/news/55/26 | Jun 30 13:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linphone.org | Linphone 4.0 for desktop platforms is available! | Jun 30 13:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840045715959809 | Jun 30 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jun 30 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jun 30 13:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jun 30 13:30 |
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| schestowitz | [18:26] <MinceR> smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | true (blush) | Jun 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | never likes gnomeshell | Jun 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | [18:27] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah, best to ignore such sites | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | "naturalnews" also | Jun 30 13:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | selling "gold", "survival kits", bogus meds etc | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | they create crazy people | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | and then sell them crazy s | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | apparently it's a good business model | Jun 30 13:34 |
| schestowitz | teach them anti-vaxx, chemtrail, anti-flouride etc. | Jun 30 13:35 |
| schestowitz | and then you sell them overpriced placebo crap that kills them early | Jun 30 13:35 |
| abeNd-org | ya, just eat real veggies/fruit/nuts, skip all that junk | Jun 30 13:36 |
| schestowitz | this is not what they advise | Jun 30 13:37 |
| schestowitz | if they did, fine... | Jun 30 13:37 |
| abeNd-org | that is what i advise | Jun 30 13:37 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ science backed nutrition | Jun 30 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research | Jun 30 13:38 | |
| XRevan86 | what's a non-real veggy/fruit/nut? | Jun 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | where is msb? | Jun 30 13:39 |
| schestowitz | did he die from some "wellness" product? | Jun 30 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840903358914562 | Jun 30 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RPi 3-like #LePotato SBC showcases fast Amlogic S905X SoC | Jun 30 13:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mbEgFVRmiz (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 30 13:39 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, he's fine just doesn't visit IRC for some reason. | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: right, but it's not the same as the aforementioned link | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | they sell mystic s* | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: hope so | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | he had some health issues last year | Jun 30 13:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, I VoIP'd him yesterday. | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw his sites linked to in reddit last week | Jun 30 13:40 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz just like the snake oil of old, just skip it | Jun 30 13:40 |
| schestowitz | "MICROSOFT WAR ON LINUX" | Jun 30 13:40 |
| abeNd-org | eat real food, not that difficult | Jun 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz | you mean unprocessed? | Jun 30 13:41 |
| schestowitz | "real" | Jun 30 13:41 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ explains it a lot better than I can | Jun 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz | ok, thank you, will have a look | Jun 30 13:42 |
| schestowitz | we eat lots of fruit and veg these days, plus milk, tea (no sugar) and chicken (unprocessed, just cooked) | Jun 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz | sometimes fish | Jun 30 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Most people I know eat very differently, all the "cool" (commercial) things | Jun 30 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But no other meat like beef and pork? | Jun 30 13:44 |
| abeNd-org | i still eat fish sometimes, but i havent touched dairy/beef/poultry/pork in ages | Jun 30 13:45 |
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| abeNd-org | and before you say that small dietary change sounds "drastic", doesnt a triple bypass sound a bit drastic? | Jun 30 13:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mona-lisa http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497540292-20170615after%20%281%29.png | Jun 30 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Mona Lisa | Jun 30 14:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 14:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@bartongellman @Snowden Maybe they "not wittingly" (of course!)...' | Jun 30 15:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 15:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Going through KDE's bugzilla is like Inception. | Jun 30 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon you're in a bug inside a bug inside a bug and you don't know what's real anymore. | Jun 30 15:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 15:29 | |
| DaemonFC | People were shocked to see that KMail's send later feature was sending email in plain text for four years before anyone found out. Doesn't surprise me. The quality of most of KDE is declining. | Jun 30 15:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: still got the irc logs, right? | Jun 30 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you hear that system76 is making an Ubuntu-derived distribution called Pop OS? | Jun 30 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | What an awful name. | Jun 30 15:55 |
| schestowitz | [19:43] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't even lay out a rationale for it. They just announced it and some buzzwords like "It's for Creators!". | Jun 30 15:55 |
| schestowitz | didn't get the reference, MinceR | Jun 30 15:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, awful name | Jun 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz | thought so too | Jun 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz | and how they spell it | Jun 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Pop!_OS | Jun 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Da Faq! | Jun 30 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Not even candy vendors would call anything that | Jun 30 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get shipping Ubuntu, because it's not the best but it *is* an end user product. | Jun 30 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora states that their target audience is software developers, but it's perfectly usable as a desktop OS. | Jun 30 15:57 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes | Jun 30 15:57 |
| MinceR | somewhere | Jun 30 15:57 |
| MinceR | i moved to a new laptop in the meantime :) | Jun 30 15:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought it was called "Pop!_OS" | Jun 30 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten away with using it as a desktop OS for many years, so when I see people cutting down Fedora.... Hey, it is (usually) pretty reliable. It's had a few bad releases, but every distribution does. | Jun 30 15:58 |
| MinceR | >Fedora >perfectly usable | Jun 30 15:58 |
| MinceR | that's a good one | Jun 30 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Makes me think of pop rocks. | Jun 30 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | Do pop rocks and soda pop make your head explode? Never tried it. | Jun 30 15:58 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 30 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | Valve made a really big mistake with the Steam Machine thing. | Jun 30 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | They should have released one version of it and said "This is the Steam Machine.". | Jun 30 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let it turn into the same kind of mess that the PC industry is in by letting PC OEMs produce a bunch of different versions of it with different specifications. | Jun 30 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | So it has the weakness of a PC. If you don't spend money on a top notch machine, you may not be able to play many of the top tier games. | Jun 30 16:01 |
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| XRevan86 | Looks like fun | Jun 30 16:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 16:24 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/safety | Jun 30 16:25 |
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| XRevan86 | At least it's more fun than packaging Linphone %). | Jun 30 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | For some reason, it's friggin' hard | Jun 30 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | Not as hard as Audacity but still. | Jun 30 16:30 |
| XRevan86 | I hope the new Qt interface is worth it | Jun 30 16:31 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/wNtRT | Jun 30 16:44 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Driver-Specific-Tuning this is getting interesting. | Jun 30 17:03 |
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| MinceR | world's fastest train >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDyGyt4LeI | Jun 30 17:13 |
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| sebsebseb | worls stange MinceR :d | Jun 30 17:47 |
| MinceR | i don't mind strange | Jun 30 17:48 |
| MinceR | but the human infestation... | Jun 30 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's the OS from the southeast side of Chicago. | Jun 30 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Introducing.....POP POP POP POP OS. | Jun 30 17:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 17:53 |
| MinceR | that doesn't explain the underscore, though | Jun 30 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's a totally new OS. They changed the wallpaper. | Jun 30 17:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | just like the "OS" it's based on :> | Jun 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | well, in a few releases, anyway | Jun 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | for now, you have patches that break applications | Jun 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | they'll throw out and it'll just be debian with a different name, logo and wallpaper, and a few patches that break applications | Jun 30 17:57 |
| MinceR | then poettering will "standardize" "package management" | Jun 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | then eventually it and debian will just be fedora with a different name, logo and wallpaper | Jun 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/geopolitics | Jun 30 18:05 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: debian has formal QA processes that Fedora completely skips. | Jun 30 18:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which amount to nothing, in the end | Jun 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | since they already rubberstamped cancerd as "stable" twice | Jun 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | debian has become a joke | Jun 30 18:09 |
| MinceR | (and they also keep shipping gnome as the default desktop. with mono.) | Jun 30 18:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: because systemd failed less tests than sysvinit. | Jun 30 18:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, poettering's tests | Jun 30 18:10 |
| MinceR | you probably believe all the bullshit on his website. | Jun 30 18:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no existing debian issue tests that existed before first like of systemd was ever written. | Jun 30 18:10 |
| MinceR | they make up all the bullshit in the world to make your favorite NSA backdoor seem like the only possible choice | Jun 30 18:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian QA started maintaining issue tests in 1998 | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | like they pretend all other init/rc systems (like openrc) do not even exist | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like i said, debian QA's tests and debian QA itself isn't worth shit. | Jun 30 18:11 |
| oiaohm | openrc failed on stableablity. | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | also, APT is a fucking unreliable mess with worthless error messages. | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | ah, good thing cancerd that eats tons of CPU, leaks RAM, fails to boot, fails to shut down, fails to start services, etc. is "stable" | Jun 30 18:12 |
| MinceR | fuck your lies. | Jun 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | Debian had tests backing it selection. | Jun 30 18:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, "tests" made up by cancerd cultists | Jun 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the other distributions did not. | Jun 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 30 18:12 |
| oiaohm | Tests that existed before systemd was written. | Jun 30 18:12 |
| MinceR | just like when gartner publishes an "independent" "study" with m$ copyrights they forgot to remove | Jun 30 18:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you can make up all the bullshit in the world and it just won't make cancerd any less of a train wreck. | Jun 30 18:13 |
| oiaohm | Debian had a list of faults of sysvinit they wantted fixed before systemd appeared. | Jun 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you want cancerd to look good, go fix it. | Jun 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | i don't care. | Jun 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit worked just fine for tons of people and cancerd breaks all over the place | Jun 30 18:13 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a reason why lot of push to systemd happened and it not systemd people. | Jun 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit was easy to swap out with tons of other systems | Jun 30 18:13 |
| oiaohm | Bull shit | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | cancerd hooks itself into the system with millions of tentacles | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | once you get into it, there's no getting out | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | which is of course what you cultists all wanted. | Jun 30 18:14 |
| oiaohm | Debian attempt to be pure multi init in 1999 | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | force everyone to your shitty system so you don't have to endure other people having systems that work better | Jun 30 18:14 |
| oiaohm | Then they found out how much sysvinit particular crap was connected to. | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | i can imagine | Jun 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | like their own atrocious rc scripts | Jun 30 18:15 |
| oiaohm | systemd makes that problem in face because all the connected stuff is now in one item. | Jun 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | which they never bothered to redesign properly | Jun 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | no, all that connected stuff and tons more is now in one item | Jun 30 18:15 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit tentacles were well hidden. | Jun 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | before you know it, the whole userspace is one item | Jun 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, so well hidden that gentoo and funtoo swapped it out for openrc | Jun 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | and slackware swapped it out for their bsd-style rc | Jun 30 18:16 |
| oiaohm | openrc maintained sysvinit support. | Jun 30 18:16 |
| oiaohm | And systemd had to as well. | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | and several people used different systems, like runit | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | and guix used dmd | Jun 30 18:16 |
| oiaohm | Have you ever used runit or dmd and noted how much you have to change from a sysvinit system. | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | not to mention running all these userspace programs on bsd-s | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | which gnome stopped so they could force cancerd on debian | Jun 30 18:17 |
| MinceR | who have an inexplicable obsession with gnome | Jun 30 18:17 |
| oiaohm | runit fails the existing tests of debian due to leaking processes from service monitoring as well. | Jun 30 18:18 |
| oiaohm | and that is even under BSD. | Jun 30 18:18 |
| MinceR | badly written processes | Jun 30 18:18 |
| MinceR | meanwhile, cancerd leaks ram | Jun 30 18:18 |
| MinceR | and eats 3% cpu on a system that's doing something else | Jun 30 18:18 |
| oiaohm | those defects were not in the debian test cases to check for. | Jun 30 18:18 |
| MinceR | then there's the system where emacs is actively being used yet dbus, packagekit and systemd are the 3 processes using the most cpu time | Jun 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | how the fuck is that possible? | Jun 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | is the NSA mining bitcoins on those machines or what? | Jun 30 18:19 |
| oiaohm | So those need to be added to the checklist for next time. | Jun 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, see, this is what i'm getting at | Jun 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | debian came up with the "tests" so they could push the malware they wanted to push all along | Jun 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | and there won't be a next time | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | debian jumped into the chasm | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | debian used to be a free, universal os with stable releases | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | they fucked up on all of those points | Jun 30 18:20 |
| oiaohm | No those tests existed before systemd. Debian started looking for a new init solution in 1999 | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | it would be stupid to trust them with any of that ever again | Jun 30 18:20 |
| oiaohm | Well before systemd. | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | therefore debian is now a system for idiots | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | and nobody else. | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | ooh, a "solution" | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | fucking suits. | Jun 30 18:20 |
| oiaohm | Most distributions were also looking for a replacement. | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | see, this is debian's problem | Jun 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have engineers calling the shots | Jun 30 18:21 |
| oiaohm | So there was a gap in the market unserviced. | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "most" as in the 3 controlled by redhat and the hundreds blindly following redhat and debian | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | even canonical, who knew cancerd was going to suck | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | but they weren't willing to do any work | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | ooh, there was a market gap! | Jun 30 18:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd sucked less than canonicals own upstart. | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | you claim there was demand! | Jun 30 18:21 |
| MinceR | so why the fuck not let people _choose_? | Jun 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | why use all the fucking tricks to force this shit on people, if you're so fucking confident that it's perfect? | Jun 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | see, your cult's acts show your party lines to be the lies that they are. | Jun 30 18:22 |
| oiaohm | Problem is when you run the test cases. None of the existing inits before systemd and openrc were passing. | Jun 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | just like the presence of the Endorsement Key in the Treacherous Platform Module busted all the lies about it having benign purposes. | Jun 30 18:22 |
| oiaohm | There was a demand with nothing servicing it. | Jun 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | the test cases matter more than what happens in the real world? | Jun 30 18:23 |
| MinceR | what the hell are you smoking? | Jun 30 18:23 |
| oiaohm | Those test cases were based of real world reported bugs. | Jun 30 18:23 |
| MinceR | which test case checked for processes not being sent SIGTERM, only SIGKILL? | Jun 30 18:23 |
| MinceR | because your "perfect" "service manager" fucked that right up | Jun 30 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR you got some expereince flashing phones ? | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | and they claimed it's because cgroups can't do their job properly. | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no, i don't like to risk it | Jun 30 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: meaning ? | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | i want a phone that boots off a removable device, but it would make too much sense for this industry of retards to implement | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: it can brick the phone. | Jun 30 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeh so it wont boot up at all or properly you mean? | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 18:24 |
| MinceR | and if you're especially unlucky, it will be unfixable | Jun 30 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I just been welll trying to get ubports on | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | since ubuntu touch is otherwise deaad really | Jun 30 18:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: you do need to check the phone. Some like nexus can be worth it because they have a fixed rom for reintalling firmware in case of uploading bad firmware. | Jun 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | it's crap anyway | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thought its a meizu fun lets try flyme os possibly | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | a guy from linx voice told me it sucked | Jun 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, at least nexus officially supports replacing the firmware | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | two years ago at event | Jun 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | too bad they're otherwise crap | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thught hold on ! | Jun 30 18:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: but many phones the firmware image includes the rom writting tool so it fails phone is stuffed | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | Meizu powerd by ubuntu screen | Jun 30 18:25 |
| MinceR | no removable battery, no memory card slot, no nothing | Jun 30 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | thats in the fime wire itself? | Jun 30 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | if I put flyme os on it could change that to the flyme os one | Jun 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | hell, they didn't even put removable storage device support in AOSP, because fuck users | Jun 30 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | keeping it as that even, if I put upbports on after? | Jun 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | this industry fucking sucks | Jun 30 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | thats the propritary stuff ubports cant get into ? | Jun 30 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | I am not sure | Jun 30 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah this no removable battery stuff is uh really | Jun 30 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: so I shoudn't just try and flash this and that then really? | Jun 30 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: this ubuntu tool script seems to work or like it will work now I know what to do with buttons etc | Jun 30 18:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember test cases based off existing bugs. Is not like formal design process where you design tests for everything that can happen. Systemd uptake shows a particular process failure. That process failure is creates the incorrect presume that systemd people had to push hard for how fast the change was. The market was basically primed for a init system/service management change. | Jun 30 18:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so what poettering fucks up that everybody else got right before doesn't matter. | Jun 30 18:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, this is why you'll never understand people actually using these things. | Jun 30 18:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you eat up every single lie, every crooked test from poettering and his followers, without an ounce of critical thinking. | Jun 30 18:29 |
| MinceR | s/test/"test"/ | Jun 30 18:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the same tests were applied to upstart when debian was looking to change to that. | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | ooh, the market was primed | Jun 30 18:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is there is a time line problem. | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | yet the "change" had to be forced on the market | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | THIS IS WHAT CANCERD CULTISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | you're a fucking joke | Jun 30 18:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what force. | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | the one that made debian's leadership implode and turn against its users? | Jun 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | which planet are you living on, oiaohm? | Jun 30 18:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian leader ship had been fighting about init systems since 2000 | Jun 30 18:31 |
| MinceR | yeah, probably instigated by the gnome people on redhat payroll | Jun 30 18:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: No | Jun 30 18:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its on a mailing list that you have never read. | Jun 30 18:31 |
| MinceR | just as gnome's forcing a dependency was what made them force cancerd on their users | Jun 30 18:31 |
| MinceR | oh well, if redhat munchkins do it on a mailing list, that's totally different | Jun 30 18:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: gnome dependency on systemd comes after debian selection to use systemd. | Jun 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | it's fucking irrelevant where they do it. | Jun 30 18:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: is this timeline problems. | Jun 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | sure it does | Jun 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | and i'm sure you're privy to every little discussion they have with each other | Jun 30 18:32 |
| MinceR | you overhear every little hint the redhat munchkins pass on to the morons at debian who insist on shipping gnome as default desktop | Jun 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | in private | Jun 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | shit, you're not redhat, you're NSA?! | Jun 30 18:33 |
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| oiaohm | Gnome selection in debian is historic. And that is before redhat had major involement in gnome. | Jun 30 18:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really most of your stuff fails basic timeline checking. | Jun 30 18:34 |
| MinceR | yes, and the fact that they considered switching to xfce several times and then backed out is also historic | Jun 30 18:34 |
| MinceR | it's just that you ignored that because it doesn't fit your propaganda | Jun 30 18:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you ever read why they did not switch. | Jun 30 18:35 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they came up with some bullshit excuse | Jun 30 18:36 |
| MinceR | the fact is, i know gnome, i know what a horrible train wreck it is at least since 2.x | Jun 30 18:36 |
| MinceR | and what potential it used to have | Jun 30 18:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so bullshit excuse for making crap up. | Jun 30 18:36 |
| MinceR | which the iPod People crushed. | Jun 30 18:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go compare the gnome HIG with the crApple HIG. i'll wait. | Jun 30 18:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you are clueless and just admitted it. | Jun 30 18:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no it not compare. | Jun 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 18:38 |
| oiaohm | When did xfce get hdpi support? | Jun 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | now you just lie, plain and simple | Jun 30 18:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: answer question | Jun 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | what do you need hdpi support for? | Jun 30 18:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | can you set font sizes? | Jun 30 18:38 |
| MinceR | can you set icon sizes? | Jun 30 18:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 18:38 |
| oiaohm | Or admit you don't know | Jun 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | do you have gui toolkits that have proper layouting and so actually scale to accommodate widget contents? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | x is not windows. | Jun 30 18:39 |
| oiaohm | So you don't know | Jun 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | (i know, you love windows because it forces a lot more shit on users and that turns you on) | Jun 30 18:39 |
| MinceR | when the fuck did IT stop being about empowering users and start being about forcing shit on users? | Jun 30 18:40 |
| oiaohm | So clueless rant | Jun 30 18:40 |
| oiaohm | Come on admit you don't know the answer. | Jun 30 18:40 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what you do every day | Jun 30 18:40 |
| MinceR | i wonder if ratcrap even pays you for it | Jun 30 18:40 |
| MinceR | not like you'll admit it | Jun 30 18:40 |
| oiaohm | https://xfce.org/download/changelogs/4.12 The answer is only this year. | Jun 30 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xfce.org | Xfce 4.12 Changelog – Xfce | Jun 30 18:41 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: They already have it? | Jun 30 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | they only just now moved to Gtk3 and they already did all the stuff necessary for hidpi? | Jun 30 18:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Now for something that does not know what monitor user will have connected its a deal breaker having a weakness like that. | Jun 30 18:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now next question is when will xfce get wayland support. | Jun 30 18:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually stable and usable? | Jun 30 18:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually usable for gaming? | Jun 30 18:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will you stop insisting that distributors break everybody's systems so you can have the latest shiny half-baked misfeature forced on them? | Jun 30 18:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: issues like this is why xfce failed the last round. Next stable release xfce will come up again. It might win at that time if it developed far enough. | Jun 30 18:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, yeah, your idol came up with a bullshit "comparison" table about "init systems" too | Jun 30 18:45 |
| MinceR | just because someone pretends to do a formal test or comparison doesn't mean they aren't twisting everything to get the result they wanted all along | Jun 30 18:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, there won't be a "next stable release" | Jun 30 18:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are already benchmarks on wayland, | Jun 30 18:45 |
| MinceR | debian stopped doing stable releases after wheezy | Jun 30 18:46 |
| MinceR | now they just release half-baked shit | Jun 30 18:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: guess what, most people don't use their computers to run benchmarks | Jun 30 18:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is wrong comparison table on init systems that pottering used was first designed by gentoo developers. Just he put the systemd data in and put it on his own blog. | Jun 30 18:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that table did not check for the defects systemd had. | Jun 30 18:46 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know at least one "gentoo developer" who is totally clueless and is just pushing cancerd everywhere | Jun 30 18:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the compare table design predates systemd by 4 years. | Jun 30 18:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this was the big problem the process was not using formal specificaiton compare standards. | Jun 30 18:47 |
| MinceR | no, the big problem is that corrupt people are being put in charge of formerly valuable systems | Jun 30 18:48 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jun 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | and they get to fuck everything up | Jun 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | some of them even get ratcrap's money behind them to break most distributions | Jun 30 18:48 |
| oiaohm | No Linux distribution runs a proper formal validation. | Jun 30 18:48 |
| MinceR | and it fucking worked | Jun 30 18:48 |
| oiaohm | List of defects would not exist if it worked. | Jun 30 18:49 |
| oiaohm | for everyone. | Jun 30 18:49 |
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| MinceR | i mean, they got debian to adopt their malware | Jun 30 18:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm ok back, what was that about bricking phones? | Jun 30 18:49 |
| MinceR | they also got ubuntu to adopt their malware, even though the guy allegedly in charge _knew_ it was shit | Jun 30 18:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Then again, Trump cannot tell the difference...' | Jun 30 18:50 | |
| MinceR | and the hundreds of derivatives just shuffle after them into the chasm | Jun 30 18:50 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: some phones have a fixed firmware writing rom that you can force the phone into if the firmware upload fails. Other phones don't | Jun 30 18:50 |
| MinceR | we have hardly a handful of gnu/linux remaining | Jun 30 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what does that mean? | Jun 30 18:50 |
| MinceR | usually that "fixed" "rom" can also be flashed, afaik | Jun 30 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR right now no os on here my Meizu MX 4 | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical image gone bye bye | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | I been trying a script | Jun 30 18:51 |
| MinceR | they tend to have several stages in the boot process, with many images on the internal storage device, and they tend to let you flash all of them | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | didn't work properly first time, since dind't get to second part or turned off to early, but hten tried to do cyanomd option to also in the script, thaats not really worked at all for whatever reaon, it wants a image | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | no osees on phone basically yeah | Jun 30 18:51 |
| MinceR | but it's some of the time not even public what they do | Jun 30 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | just get the Meizu powered by ubuntu boot up screen, and thats about it, and can get into the fast mode and so o n | Jun 30 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | now my question is | Jun 30 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | that grapihic | Jun 30 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | that boot up screen, is that in the phones firmewier itself, not the OS? even a propritary thing ? | Jun 30 18:52 |
| MinceR | Allwinner SoCs can allegedly boot from anywhere, even USB storage devices -- but there's no documentation about them available for anyone who isn't manufacturing huge amounts of devices with them | Jun 30 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | so if I put on flymeos for example the Meizu android fork thing, it would change that to the one for flyme probably or try to, and could be a probelm getting the old one back, if its proptiray ? | Jun 30 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR is the boot up grahica, tighed to the hardware, not really the OS | Jun 30 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | graphic | Jun 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | is it even designed for your hardware? | Jun 30 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | yep that one is designed for the MX 4 Ubuntu Editition | Jun 30 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | which is my phone | Jun 30 18:53 |
| MinceR | one of the things that prevented me from wanting to flash my phone (beside the risk of bricking) was that nobody's rom would support the pen and digitizer | Jun 30 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | yeah well the ubports images work been tested with mx 4 | Jun 30 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | but a recent version of flyme os probably hasn't really ! | Jun 30 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | even if it sayas on flyme site that should be able to run on mx 4 | Jun 30 18:54 |
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| sebsebseb | wanted a llook but its just some sucky android based thing really, it seems | Jun 30 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm flymeos site had certain warnigns about falshing or whatever, that seemd a bit off putting too | Jun 30 18:56 |
| MinceR | well yeah, in general, flashing can brick the system | Jun 30 18:56 |
| MinceR | and nobody wants to do the obvious ways to do it right | Jun 30 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm I guess phone softwre isn't just a OS, it's the whole uh thing, whatever the equivilent to the bios is as well? yeah ? | Jun 30 18:56 |
| MinceR | it's not that clear cut, afaik | Jun 30 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | hence why its called frmwire | Jun 30 18:57 |
| MinceR | it's not an x86 pc | Jun 30 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | exactly its diffenret | Jun 30 18:57 |
| MinceR | there are no such quasi-standardized common parts | Jun 30 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | thats what I mean | Jun 30 18:57 |
| MinceR | iirc Linus used to complain about that long ago | Jun 30 18:57 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah flashing goes wrontg | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | phone wont boot | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | bricked | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | thats the risk | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | may not be worth the risk, for some stupid android based chinse os then ! | Jun 30 18:58 |
| razielle_tzu | it's usually a soft-bricking that can be corrected with another image | Jun 30 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | 1. I want to use this phone as a ubuntu phone, well ubports now :d when I have flashed | Jun 30 18:58 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically phones don't always have anything like a bios. Some do those are the ones that can be corrected by apply another image. | Jun 30 18:59 |
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| sebsebseb | well this one has fast boot and recovery mode options thatsa bout it | Jun 30 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Jun 30 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | 2. android based stuff sucks really, actsaully anndroid sucks really :d | Jun 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | 3. exceptoin to that would be remix os | Jun 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | unfortunately all the other phone OSes suck even more | Jun 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | a lot more | Jun 30 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah for some sucky android basd os, may not be worth the risk of the possible bricking etc | Jun 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | and i suspect that the telcos don't want this to change | Jun 30 19:02 |
| MinceR | and the market probably doesn't demand it either | Jun 30 19:02 |
| sebsebseb | well companies can try the altenraive os route some have | Jun 30 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | but | Jun 30 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | plenty of money is made as a hardware manufacture or network from android so | Jun 30 19:03 |
| MinceR | most of the money available to people selling phones are from simpletons who believe a hypePhone is a "smartphone" | Jun 30 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Jun 30 19:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: a lot of my phones have been due people upgrading. | Jun 30 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what you mean ? | Jun 30 19:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: so when I have not paid for the phone bricking it is not a problem. | Jun 30 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | second hand ? | Jun 30 19:03 |
| MinceR | so they aren't going to develop devices that put the user in control | Jun 30 19:03 |
| MinceR | hell, they're switching to nonremovable batteries | Jun 30 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | yep ubuntu tuch / ub ports and salifish os put the user in control for the most part | Jun 30 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | on the software side that is | Jun 30 19:04 |
| MinceR | because ooh aah look the back of the device is made of a material that is perfectly impractical for the purpose | Jun 30 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | for phones that run on | Jun 30 19:04 |
| MinceR | fucking retards | Jun 30 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes even the mx 4 has a non removable battery hmm | Jun 30 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | but most of my other phones have a removable :) | Jun 30 19:05 |
| MinceR | i'm just waiting for glass _over_ shiny metal | Jun 30 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully could open up the mx 4 battery | Jun 30 19:05 |
| oiaohm | non removable batteries could come a major problem with flights starting to lock down on laptops and the like on flights. | Jun 30 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | but warning on it not too | Jun 30 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jun 30 19:05 |
| MinceR | so you can block RF and wireless charging _and_ collect fingerprints and cracks at the same time! | Jun 30 19:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: how ? | Jun 30 19:05 |
| MinceR | well, another major problem there is the fascist governments | Jun 30 19:05 |
| MinceR | which approach everything from the viewpoint of "what else could we ban? how else could we screw with the ordinary people?" | Jun 30 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: Meizu powerd by Ubuntu graphic, is that tighed to the hardware? no os on here now | Jun 30 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | on the mx 4 | Jun 30 19:06 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: if they say no explosive materials at all on in carry on. That does forbid mobile phone batteries. | Jun 30 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: is the the propritary bit that Ubports cant just change ? | Jun 30 19:06 |
| razielle_tzu | how the fuck would i know without playing with one? | Jun 30 19:06 |
| MinceR | especially dump, whose administration decided to ban laptops from being carried on board | Jun 30 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so if I put on a different hardware usch as flymeos it would change that oteh flyme os one, and maybe keep it there, | Jun 30 19:06 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they'll be shocked when it turns out that what remains of the IT industry of trumpistan is performing even worse | Jun 30 19:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: true, but taking a guess? | Jun 30 19:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i know nothing about the phones, i can't even take a guess | Jun 30 19:07 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: now using like a nimh battery pack connected to a phone with a removable battery that operates with battery removed. would be a non explosive combination. | Jun 30 19:08 |
| MinceR | but the nimh battery pack itself would send most of the morons into a fit of paranoid fear | Jun 30 19:09 |
| MinceR | they'd assume it was a bomb | Jun 30 19:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or plug into aircraft provided power. | Jun 30 19:09 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'll ever let you do that | Jun 30 19:09 |
| MinceR | they're even afraid that consumer RF equipment will screw with their precious snowflake equipment | Jun 30 19:09 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder how much of this microsoft/apple/redhat "quality" software is allowed to run on board the plane itself... | Jun 30 19:10 |
| MinceR | they got away with running winblows on cars, after all... | Jun 30 19:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some flights do have usb ports https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-australia-powers-up-with-at-seat-ac-usb-for-boeing-737 | Jun 30 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ausbt.com.au | Virgin Australia powers up with at-seat AC, USB for Boeing 737 - Australian Business Traveller | Jun 30 19:11 | |
| MinceR | oh, nice | Jun 30 19:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: even worse that is 240 | Jun 30 19:11 |
| MinceR | 240V? | Jun 30 19:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep usb and 240V AC | Jun 30 19:11 |
| MinceR | that's nice | Jun 30 19:11 |
| MinceR | you can get away with thinner wires :> | Jun 30 19:11 |
| oiaohm | Now it if you can get you device on board is the problem. | Jun 30 19:12 |
| oiaohm | And if it will work with battery removed. | Jun 30 19:12 |
| MinceR | and what will you do when they "lose" (or steal) the battery from your checked baggage :> | Jun 30 19:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now that worse if you phone with removable battery will not work with battery removed. | Jun 30 19:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or if you have to place your complete phone in checked baggage and they lose it. | Jun 30 19:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 19:14 |
| oiaohm | I know of a few who are checking their laptop but removing the harddrive and carrying on the harddrive. | Jun 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 19:15 |
| oiaohm | Phones are nightmare because you don't have that option. | Jun 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | too bad even thinkpads are difficult to remove the storage device from | Jun 30 19:15 |
| MinceR | no separate hdd door anymore | Jun 30 19:15 |
| oiaohm | easy to remove harddrive is a feature some business traveller are now looking for. | Jun 30 19:16 |
| MinceR | at least one of the batteries is still removable | Jun 30 19:16 |
| MinceR | will they be able to suppress their drooling for "unibody" long enough for it to actually matter, though? | Jun 30 19:16 |
| oiaohm | When you have dumb idiot guards who read laptop must be checked you have problem. | Jun 30 19:17 |
| oiaohm | Then fail to read if complete containing battery. | Jun 30 19:17 |
| MinceR | what are the rules concerning laptops, tablets, phones on airplanes in australia? | Jun 30 19:19 |
| MinceR | in europe, they didn't mind them, just had to put them separately on trays for the x-ray or whatever | Jun 30 19:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we have a double nightmare http://www.traveller.com.au/the-real-difficulties-behind-banning-laptops-and-tablet-devices-in-plane-cabins-in-australia-gw5x94 | Jun 30 19:20 |
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| MinceR | great | Jun 30 19:21 |
| MinceR | are all of the five eyes going full retard now? | Jun 30 19:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: our existing regulation forbids the battery in the aircraft luggage and cargo holds of an aircraft. | Jun 30 19:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so taking a laptop to a country with a cabin ban is between rock and hard-place with Australian regulations unless you leave the battery behind. | Jun 30 19:23 |
| MinceR | so you can't take the device on board, but have to carry the batteries on board? | Jun 30 19:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yep | Jun 30 19:23 |
| MinceR | it's like they just roll dice to decide on the regulations now | Jun 30 19:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: welcome to ultra stupid. | Jun 30 19:23 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 19:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the battery regulation exists because we lost a mail aircraft to battery fire. | Jun 30 19:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note depending on where you are going you might not get your battery on board either. | Jun 30 19:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so laptop batteryless might be what you have. | Jun 30 19:25 |
| MinceR | or i just won't travel there | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | because fuck that noise | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | if they want to kill their IT industry, let them. | Jun 30 19:26 |
| oiaohm | Or higher a private jet. | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll buy an entire fleet | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | and then i'll buy a country, too | Jun 30 19:26 |
| oiaohm | This is what is stupid. | Jun 30 19:26 |
| MinceR | and an army, and a few hundred nukes | Jun 30 19:26 |
| oiaohm | A private jet for 20 people to the USA costs about 50 dollars more each but you can take on what ever you like. | Jun 30 19:27 |
| MinceR | so how will you find 20 people who want to go to the same place at the same time? | Jun 30 19:28 |
| MinceR | i doubt even the biggest businesses would routinely send 20 people on business trips at a time | Jun 30 19:28 |
| oiaohm | Mining companies. | Jun 30 19:29 |
| MinceR | how much do they need computers? | Jun 30 19:30 |
| oiaohm | Quite a bit thinking that normally includes a geology assessment team. | Jun 30 19:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 30 19:31 |
| oiaohm | As a solo person is 4-5 times normal ticket price. | Jun 30 19:31 |
| oiaohm | That does come a question how much you need sleep because that is absolutely sure to be free of crying babies. | Jun 30 19:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 19:32 |
| MinceR | all my flights so far were blissfully free of crying babies :) | Jun 30 19:33 |
| oiaohm | Solo is more expensive due to having to cover the staff costs. So really fast service. | Jun 30 19:38 |
| MinceR | "Yang chas Solo chone Wookiee!" | Jun 30 19:39 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm flashing went ok | Jun 30 20:25 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there are many elephants in the room that explain why what systemd has caused a up roar. https://lwn.net/Articles/726021/ The big one is in fact this one. Since the Linux kernel userspace is not have formal specifications people wanting to run alternatives to like udev have insanely hard time. | Jun 30 20:37 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: lack of specifications done right also explained cgroup v1. | Jun 30 20:38 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: there's also how the cancerd cult operates | Jun 30 20:38 |
| MinceR | if that behavior is tolerated in gnu/linux, they'll destroy it until nothing is left of it | Jun 30 20:39 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: also, we kinda do need diversity in our software | Jun 30 20:40 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the thing we did not have a lot of diversity because like even busybox mdev has been suffering from breakages due to lack of specification. | Jun 30 20:41 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: cancerd is not helping | Jun 30 20:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its bit hard to have diversity if everything is basically sitting on quicksand. | Jun 30 20:41 |
| MinceR | yup | Jun 30 20:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd did see some of the quicksand areas get some fixes. | Jun 30 20:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but there is still a huge area of quicksand. | Jun 30 20:42 |
| MinceR | fixes? are you living in the same reality i'm living in? | Jun 30 20:42 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 to replace cgroup v1 that was badly unworkable in many areas of design yet many projects like docker using it. | Jun 30 20:43 |
| MinceR | that is, where DE devs say "we're not going to support anything other than systemd", where debian decides that you can't install CUPS if you don't have systemd installed and shit like that | Jun 30 20:43 |
| MinceR | well, cgroup being far from stable is your problem, not mine | Jun 30 20:43 |
| MinceR | i don't rely on it | Jun 30 20:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, i wonder when they'll kill it off | Jun 30 20:46 |
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| MinceR | used to be called dmd | Jun 30 20:47 |
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| cubexyz | runs on GuixSD which I've only just learned about | Jun 30 20:47 |
| MinceR | ah yes, it was guixsd, not guix | Jun 30 20:47 |
| MinceR | guix is just the package manager | Jun 30 20:47 |
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| oiaohm | https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit dmd/Shepherd comes out for systemd starting and gnu look like losing their central role in providing init system | Jun 30 20:48 |
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| MinceR | they don't seem to care anymore | Jun 30 20:49 |
| cubexyz | Smoorenburg wrote the FC1 init as well | Jun 30 20:50 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there was a lot of works for me around sysvinit. So basically no care for those who were having issues before systemd. Also sysvinit and upstart particular parts being in cups happened before systemd as well. | Jun 30 20:53 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: again this is another place of stuff being done due to missing universal specification. | Jun 30 20:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how do you expect any of this to get fixed once everyone is locked tightly into systemd? | Jun 30 20:53 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it seems sysvinit hasn't been updated since 2014? | Jun 30 20:53 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: fairly much. | Jun 30 20:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: few distributions have added a few extra patches here and there. But is fairly much abandoned project. | Jun 30 20:54 |
| MinceR | so, in redhatland, "stable" is referred to as "abandoned" | Jun 30 20:54 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 30 20:55 |
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| MinceR | "it's only worth using if we have to fuck with it every month!" | Jun 30 20:55 |
| cubexyz | btw note that slack has system V compatibility | Jun 30 20:55 |
| cubexyz | rc.sysvinit script | Jun 30 20:55 |
| MinceR | the baffling part is that some people are willing to pay actual money for "support" from the likes of red hat and canonical | Jun 30 20:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: abandoned statement comes from bug list. https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=sysvinit | Jun 30 20:58 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you would never check that. | Jun 30 20:58 |
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| cubexyz | basically I do my own support, since there's no one that can really help me with the old software I want to run | Jun 30 20:59 |
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| MinceR | (i.e. "we play around with shit without understanding any of it, then we abandon it and the bug reports and start over" and "we can't be arsed to put any real work into our own distro") | Jun 30 21:01 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: from 2010 sysvinit has not been getting its upstream bugs addressed and fixed. Please note is not really redhat only to blame here all the distributions using sysvinit were not taking care of it either. | Jun 30 21:05 |
| MinceR | i guess it wasn't hurting anyone particularly | Jun 30 21:08 |
| oiaohm | That is a factor why distributions were unwilling to remain on sysvinit. | Jun 30 21:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart the downfall of sysvinit is upstart. Fairly much when fedora and ubuntu switched to upstart all maintainers on sysvinit stopped. | Jun 30 21:11 |
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| MinceR | yeah, that's because they're retarded | Jun 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | "let's abuse the hell out of signals and ptrace in the hope of booting a little faster!" | Jun 30 21:12 |
| MinceR | i wonder what moron would want that on a server | Jun 30 21:12 |
| oiaohm | Two parties switching killed the upstream. | Jun 30 21:13 |
| oiaohm | There is a diversity problem in 2010 | Jun 30 21:13 |
| MinceR | naturally, the way to solve the diversity problem is to cause even more of a diversity problem | Jun 30 21:14 |
| oiaohm | More of a duty of care. How many distributions are still using sysvinit yet the upstream is basically abandoned | Jun 30 21:15 |
| MinceR | how many distributions are using systemd yet the upstream is hostile and retarded | Jun 30 21:16 |
| MinceR | and unstable | Jun 30 21:16 |
| MinceR | and relying on an unstable kernel feature | Jun 30 21:16 |
| cubexyz | simplicity and slitaz still use sysvinit | Jun 30 21:17 |
| cubexyz | and slack is basically compatible with it | Jun 30 21:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?47196 I think would drop unstable kernel feature as a separator between sysvinit and systemd the pidof issue in sysvinit is from a not well specification defined feature of the Linux kernel. | Jun 30 21:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: and every other posix system. | Jun 30 21:18 |
| MinceR | now you're really grasping at straws | Jun 30 21:18 |
| oiaohm | No I am not. | Jun 30 21:19 |
| oiaohm | Its the same issue the kernel interfaces not define in function well enough. | Jun 30 21:19 |
| oiaohm | Using unstable kernel features that are not clearly define in init systems of posix operating systems has been going on for a long time. | Jun 30 21:20 |
| cubexyz | some day, people will say "screw it" and revert to older systems | Jun 30 21:26 |
| cubexyz | if they haven't done that already | Jun 30 21:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: or some day we will move to more valid software development methods | Jun 30 21:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: instead of build pray and give to end users the fix bugs as what happens now. | Jun 30 21:27 |
| cubexyz | did you know that the US Navy radar systems still use PDPs? | Jun 30 21:28 |
| MinceR | i'm sure that rewarding the worst sw development methods will steer the likes of redhat toward valid methods | Jun 30 21:28 |
| cubexyz | also the French Airbus | Jun 30 21:28 |
| MinceR | that's just the way things work, amirite? | Jun 30 21:28 |
| MinceR | also, we'll start healing broken bones with C4 | Jun 30 21:28 |
| MinceR | and putting out fires with napalm | Jun 30 21:29 |
| cubexyz | minuteman ICBM program? DEC Vax | Jun 30 21:29 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of funny | Jun 30 21:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: napalm has been used to put out oil fires. | Jun 30 21:29 |
| MinceR | we'll use it for all fires | Jun 30 21:29 |
| MinceR | just dump it directly on the fire | Jun 30 21:29 |
| cubexyz | "ancient computers control nuclear weapons" | Jun 30 21:30 |
| oiaohm | Really I see systemd as more showing how bad it really was. Spreed over like 40 different projects over 500+ buglists kind of hides a lot of evils. | Jun 30 21:31 |
| cubexyz | well at least we won't be nuked by a systemd bug :) | Jun 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | and humanity is committed to justifying controlling things with ancient computers | Jun 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | by making new computers and new software unreliable | Jun 30 21:31 |
| oiaohm | Now we can see how bad the mess is will we start the processes to make stuff properly. | Jun 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure we will | Jun 30 21:31 |
| oiaohm | Or will we keep on making junk. | Jun 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | setting everything in stone is definitely the first step to changing things | Jun 30 21:32 |
| MinceR | yes, we'll reward the ones making the worst junk and expect this to motivate them to make non-junk | Jun 30 21:32 |
| MinceR | causality was so inconvenient, so we just got rid of it | Jun 30 21:32 |
| MinceR | like facts | Jun 30 21:32 |
| MinceR | the post-fact era is so great | Jun 30 21:32 |
| oiaohm | Setting everything in stone is a great way to start a rebellion. Now if rebellion will be smart enough to be effective that is a really good question. | Jun 30 21:34 |
| cubexyz | I just want a motherboard without intel me | Jun 30 21:34 |
| cubexyz | is that too much to ask? | Jun 30 21:34 |
| MinceR | well, the rebellion has already started | Jun 30 21:34 |
| MinceR | and not a day passes without you castigating the rebels for daring to rebel | Jun 30 21:34 |
| MinceR | if only there was a way to turn cognitive dissonance into energy | Jun 30 21:34 |
| MinceR | we could replace fossil fuels with you | Jun 30 21:35 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes | Jun 30 21:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember the luddites were a rebellion as well. | Jun 30 21:35 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: you see, this industry is dedicated to making everything shit | Jun 30 21:35 |
| oiaohm | So it important that the ones doing rebellion learn from history. | Jun 30 21:35 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: remind me, who's wrecking cron, screen, tmux, dtach, etc. here? | Jun 30 21:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: everything you listed works under systemd setup. Ok some you have to declare stuff. | Jun 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | seems to me that the CADT development model isn't exactly conducive to learning from history | Jun 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | but what do i know, i'm just a software engineer | Jun 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, everything works, except that it doesn't | Jun 30 21:37 |
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| oiaohm | cron has a bug where if it has been killed under sysvinit and restarted that at times it will start one of it tasks twice. | Jun 30 21:37 |
| oiaohm | Of course systemd kill cron out right when it stopped it fixes that bug. So this is a rock and hard place problem. | Jun 30 21:38 |
| MinceR | right, only cron has bugs | Jun 30 21:38 |
| MinceR | killing everything that crond ever started, now that's a feature | Jun 30 21:39 |
| MinceR | so has our self-appointed emperor declared. | Jun 30 21:39 |
| MinceR | no, this is not a rock and a hard place problem | Jun 30 21:39 |
| oiaohm | cron was not design to properly track what it had started and to have it core restartable. | Jun 30 21:39 |
| MinceR | this is a megalomaniac with delusions of adequacy and brainless horde of followers problem | Jun 30 21:39 |
| MinceR | systemd was not designed | Jun 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | at all | Jun 30 21:40 |
| oiaohm | Not true | Jun 30 21:40 |
| oiaohm | systemd has a lot for formal specifications | Jun 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, we've already discussed how formal and meaningful they are | Jun 30 21:40 |
| oiaohm | So it was designed to a point. Then coders failed to implement to specifications and test to specificaitons properly. | Jun 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | and how closely they're followed | Jun 30 21:41 |
| MinceR | yeah, all those coders called poettering | Jun 30 21:41 |
| oiaohm | So saying not designed is wrong. | Jun 30 21:41 |
| oiaohm | Designed then badly implemented is true. | Jun 30 21:41 |
| MinceR | have they failed to specify that you should exercise at least minimal care in code written in c that's running in pid1 as root or was that ignored from the start as well? | Jun 30 21:41 |
| oiaohm | Part of that would fall under testing that code is to specification and only functions as per specification. | Jun 30 21:42 |
| oiaohm | openssl years before was also showing the problem of writing lots of good specification then no valid testing to specification. | Jun 30 21:43 |
| oiaohm | There is quite a huge code quality problem. | Jun 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | ah yes, testing | Jun 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | another thing made "obsolete" by microsoft | Jun 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | why test if your consumers don't care if your product is full of bugs and design flaws, or if it doesn't even work at all? | Jun 30 21:45 |
| MinceR | also, obviously the way forward is to find what various projects are doing wrong and then adopting those flaws into others | Jun 30 21:45 |
| oiaohm | Please note lack of quality processed for testing have been in the Linux kernel itself from the start. | Jun 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | and it shows | Jun 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | just look at the hype-V-related crap | Jun 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | though even code review would have caught some of those wtfs | Jun 30 21:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft managed to make the hyper-v code that bad that it did not manage to pass the Linux kernels poor quality of review processes. | Jun 30 21:49 |
| MinceR | yet there it is, in staging | Jun 30 21:49 |
| MinceR | but there still is _some_ QA | Jun 30 21:49 |
| MinceR | after all, there's a bit of code that proved to be even more atrocious than that | Jun 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | kdbus. | Jun 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | from the same idiots. | Jun 30 21:50 |
| oiaohm | The samsung attempt of graphic driver merge in Linux kernel makes kdbus look sane. | Jun 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | and there's only 1 person who can protect Linux from those idiots completely fucking it up | Jun 30 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Few quick looks one person worked out that one of the /dev entries of the samsung driver was basically /dev/mem that had been removed due to being a massive security hole. | Jun 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | ah yes, that brilliant exynos sechole | Jun 30 21:53 |
| MinceR | i used it to root my phone | Jun 30 21:53 |
| MinceR | i didn't know they tried to submit that to upstream though | Jun 30 21:55 |
| oiaohm | The kdbus if you follow it back it lead to you a issue before systemd existance. Dbus formal specification yet no proper testing or benchmarking. Most of what linus told them to do was go back and benchmark the thing and locate the poor performing points | Jun 30 21:55 |
| MinceR | yup | Jun 30 21:55 |
| MinceR | they couldn't be bothered to profile it | Jun 30 21:55 |
| MinceR | "just throw it in the kernel!" | Jun 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | like microsoft | Jun 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | which of course started with abusing dbus, sending >512kB messages | Jun 30 21:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please note dbus is not by the person you like to hate. But is from the redhat guy who use to use the handle havoc. | Jun 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | still a braindead "design", if you can call it that | Jun 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | and kdbus is from the cancerd cabal | Jun 30 22:00 |
| MinceR | and cancerd is pushing dbus everywhere | Jun 30 22:00 |
| oiaohm | Pennington, Havoc | Jun 30 22:00 |
| oiaohm | happens to have been who was Poettering supervisor. | Jun 30 22:01 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Jun 30 22:01 |
| MinceR | they can't have much of a clue if they didn't realize as a supervisor that poettering is perfectly unfit for software engineering | Jun 30 22:01 |
| oiaohm | Havoc was not known for his software engineering skill either. | Jun 30 22:02 |
| oiaohm | So blind leading blind. | Jun 30 22:02 |
| MinceR | and their people forcing the results on us all | Jun 30 22:02 |
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| oiaohm | The one thing Havoc was known for was writting good documentation. | Jun 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | did said documentation include "yes we expect you to reboot your server/workstation all the time, lol"? | Jun 30 22:04 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: reality both havoc and poettering had been restricted to documentation writing they would not have caused problems. Or better supervised on software engineering proceses. | Jun 30 22:06 |
| MinceR | or if they had both just kept on eating glue | Jun 30 22:06 |
| MinceR | and not touching computers | Jun 30 22:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: thing is both of them produced good quality documents. | Jun 30 22:06 |
| oiaohm | It hard to find good technical writers. | Jun 30 22:07 |
| MinceR | yet it's not the documents that they keep trying to force on me | Jun 30 22:07 |
| MinceR | but how can someone be a good technical writer without any working neurons? | Jun 30 22:07 |
| oiaohm | Read the man pages and that of systemd some time. | Jun 30 22:08 |
| MinceR | what for? | Jun 30 22:08 |
| oiaohm | Software development and auditing what you do takes a very particular set of though processes. You don't need all those skills to write good usable documentation and specifications for what software should do. | Jun 30 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you don't find in most cases a person who is good at technical writing and good at formal development. Most people are either good at one or the other. | Jun 30 22:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you are good at technically writing you will normally be a nightmare at coding. | Jun 30 22:11 |
| cubexyz | microsoft has obviously been colluding with OEMs | Jun 30 22:12 |
| cubexyz | that's really the biggest problem | Jun 30 22:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not merely technical writing or coding | Jun 30 22:12 |
| oiaohm | Really some cases yes some cases no.o | Jun 30 22:13 |
| oiaohm | Oem processes are a living nightmare. | Jun 30 22:13 |
| oiaohm | Like the firmware being developed 12 months before the device goes into production then only tested with the OS at the last min and if anything wrong we will just write a driver for the OS instead of having to reflash the motherboards. | Jun 30 22:14 |
| cubexyz | and that "lower cost of ownership" nonsense... | Jun 30 22:15 |
| oiaohm | Add in buying firmware from third party vendors. | Jun 30 22:15 |
| cubexyz | even though internally M$ admitted Linux was cheaper | Jun 30 22:15 |
| oiaohm | Who don't work with each other. | Jun 30 22:15 |
| oiaohm | OEM be it PC or phone are a insanely messy development process. | Jun 30 22:16 |
| oiaohm | more worried about cost than quality. | Jun 30 22:16 |
| oiaohm | Do I think OEM would be much better if windows did not exist? No they would most likely be the same nightmare. | Jun 30 22:17 |
| cubexyz | I remember the pre-windows era | Jun 30 22:18 |
| cubexyz | it was better in some ways | Jun 30 22:18 |
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| cubexyz | certainly programming manuals for peripherals were more accessible | Jun 30 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Not that much better when you got into stuff with proper OS cores. | Jun 30 22:18 |
| cubexyz | you got a real manual with your printer | Jun 30 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Dos was kind of a golden age for a bit where vendors of hardware had to provide specs. | Jun 30 22:19 |
| cubexyz | no winmodem winprinter crap either | Jun 30 22:19 |
| cubexyz | ha, well I didn't like the real mode limitations and EMS :) | Jun 30 22:19 |
| cubexyz | Waterloo was using Sun4's | Jun 30 22:20 |
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| cubexyz | Amiga didn't have that silly 640K limit | Jun 30 22:21 |
| cubexyz | you really can't say windows was that positive an influence | Jun 30 22:21 |
| cubexyz | M$ wanted OS/2 and Unix out of the picture | Jun 30 22:23 |
| cubexyz | not to mention BeOS and probably other ones | Jun 30 22:23 |
| cubexyz | M$ wants to kill old windows too | Jun 30 22:25 |
| cubexyz | herd everyone onto win10 | Jun 30 22:25 |
| cubexyz | one thing that surprised me a lot was one thing HP did | Jun 30 22:27 |
| cubexyz | they made a web page for one of their scanners, the HP Pro 3500 flatbed | Jun 30 22:28 |
| cubexyz | and they tested a ton of different Linux distros, even LFS | Jun 30 22:29 |
| cubexyz | listed the functionality under each one, e.g. scan, fax, status, photo card, usb, parallel, network | Jun 30 22:29 |
| cubexyz | the only things that worked under linux (and it didn't seem to matter which distro) was scan and usb | Jun 30 22:30 |
| cubexyz | and in a few cases not even usb worked | Jun 30 22:31 |
| cubexyz | HP never told me the full story, I had to research it myself | Jun 30 22:32 |
| cubexyz | some of HP's info is bogus though | Jun 30 22:33 |
| cubexyz | there's no reason why USB wouldn't work under slack | Jun 30 22:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its really simple to forget HP giving out free servers at different times to debian and other open source projects. | Jun 30 22:35 |
| cubexyz | I'm not against HP | Jun 30 22:35 |
| cubexyz | I bought two HP chromebooks after all :) | Jun 30 22:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so HP for a long time has been supporting Linux. but even so cost has lead to stupidity at times. | Jun 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | has hp's love affair with m$ ended yet? | Jun 30 22:35 |
| cubexyz | you can't say HP is giving good linux support for scanners... | Jun 30 22:36 |
| cubexyz | I spent years studying this | Jun 30 22:36 |
| cubexyz | but HP did make chromebooks, so their not 100% in microsoft's pocket | Jun 30 22:37 |
| cubexyz | they're | Jun 30 22:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: HP scanners have at times been bad under windows. | Jun 30 22:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so HP is more cost cutting causing issues. | Jun 30 22:38 |
| cubexyz | and they still update HP-UX I think | Jun 30 22:40 |
| cubexyz | well I know you can't use the old win95 drivers on win2k or xp (and I'm sure anything later than that) | Jun 30 22:48 |
| cubexyz | they didn't bother rewriting the drivers for the old scanners | Jun 30 22:49 |
| cubexyz | too bad consumers, buy more stuff | Jun 30 22:49 |
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| cubexyz | although I admit I never use fax these days | Jun 30 23:03 |
| cubexyz | not a big deal that fax doesn't work under linux | Jun 30 23:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/TuxICT/status/880986337075245056 | Jun 30 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Professional Typography in #LibreOffice and Italian | Jun 30 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @TuxICT Migration | Jun 30 23:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ml5FyQlT09 (www.tuxmachines.org) #odf #tdf | Jun 30 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Professional Typography in LibreOffice and Italian Migration | Tux Machines | Jun 30 23:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #opendocument | Jun 30 23:35 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, I can't move the tabs in konsole around in KDE4 | Jun 30 23:37 |
| cubexyz | got half a mind to port the old konsole | Jun 30 23:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I know its the horrible drag and drop and ouch new window if miss. | Jun 30 23:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: been using lxterminal recently to have key options to move tabs around. | Jun 30 23:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @iridesce57 favourited 'Six Things to Do to Secure Your Linux...' | Jun 30 23:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jul 01 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @titanve Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jul 01 00:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jul 01 00:00 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited 'Six Things to Do to Secure Your Linux...' | Jul 01 00:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ArturKirkoriyan Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jul 01 01:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Important CentOS 7 Linux Kernel Security Update Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Jul 01 01:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jul 01 01:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jul 01 02:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @NTechlibre Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jul 01 02:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jul 01 02:07 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @PakamamaniRenew retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update Patches...' | Jul 01 02:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa | Jul 01 02:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Radeon/AMD/Vega and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jul 01 02:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881038028826787841 | Jul 01 02:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #CalculateLinux 17.6 released | Jul 01 02:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/di9MYSdnps (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 02:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Calculate Linux 17.6 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 02:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CalculateLinux 17.6 released https://t.co/di9MYSdnps #gnu #linux...' | Jul 01 02:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa ...' | Jul 01 02:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881039105848508416 | Jul 01 02:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubernetes 1.7 released | Jul 01 02:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LdLSeKju4W (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 02:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server | Jul 01 02:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes 1.7 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 02:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kubernetes 1.7 released https://t.co/LdLSeKju4W #freesw #container #server...' | Jul 01 02:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881039970126880772 | Jul 01 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 02:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 02:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 02:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeDOS Anniversary | Jul 01 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/p6GW6NHuqM (www.tuxmachines.org) 23. #dos | Jul 01 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeDOS Anniversary | Tux Machines | Jul 01 02:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jul 01 02:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 02:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa ...' | Jul 01 02:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeDOS Anniversary https://t.co/p6GW6NHuqM 23. #dos #freesw...' | Jul 01 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881045549280968705 | Jul 01 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games: #Steam Summer Sale, #Cossacks3, #MicroMachines: | Jul 01 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World Series, The #Witcher3, and #GTA 5 | Jul 01 03:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hLPwXiz0Es (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 03:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Summer Sale, Cossacks 3, Micro Machines: World Series, The Witcher 3, and GTA 5 | Tux Machines | Jul 01 03:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881050631536087040 | Jul 01 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What Motivates #Torvalds, What Excites #Larabel About | Jul 01 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux, and Latest @LinuxFoundation Announcements | Jul 01 03:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Motivates Torvalds, What Excites Larabel About Linux, and Latest Linux Foundation Announcements | Tux Machines | Jul 01 03:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881051194583650308 | Jul 01 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon has just posted its | Jul 01 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2,000th toot. Almost 400 followers. Growing a lot faster | Jul 01 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | than #twitter (censor). | Jul 01 03:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers: #Containers, #Ansible, and #Puppet | Jul 01 03:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Containers, Ansible, and Puppet | Tux Machines | Jul 01 03:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Servers: #Containers, #Ansible, and #Puppet | Jul 01 04:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Jul 01 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/r1hSs6sEt1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jul 01 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Tux Machines | Jul 01 05:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jul 01 05:02 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why You Should Reconsider Debian https://t.co/r1hSs6sEt1 #debian...' | Jul 01 05:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881078603689201664 | Jul 01 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #Qt, #KWin, #GSoC, #Kirigami, #Kube and #LatteDock | Jul 01 05:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IFuoS7E5d0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Qt, KWin, GSoC, Kirigami, Kube and Latte Dock | Tux Machines | Jul 01 05:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #plasma | Jul 01 05:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE: #Qt, #KWin, #GSoC, #Kirigami, #Kube and #LatteDock...' | Jul 01 05:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Will there be any press coverage?...' | Jul 01 05:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/1637800 | Jul 01 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1637800 “add a motd script for news” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jul 01 05:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Add a new update-motd script for printing news and/or important notices." | Jul 01 05:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881082226728939520 | Jul 01 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | risk for customers | Jul 01 05:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 05:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 05:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 05:31 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement risk for customers...' | Jul 01 05:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym' | Jul 01 05:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym | Jul 01 05:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym' | Jul 01 05:47 | |
| oiaohm | Really the grsecurity one has been a problem for a while with not working with upstream. | Jul 01 05:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement risk for customers...' | Jul 01 05:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Conservatives Austerity for the poor To...' | Jul 01 06:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives Austerity for the poor...' | Jul 01 06:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6jv59l/til_the_json_licence_is_not_free_because_you_may/ | Jul 01 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TIL the JSON licence is not free, because you may not use it for Evil : linux | Jul 01 06:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://social.gl-como.it/display/3e3ce0df13594cc5f203fa9808762540 | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | On brokeness, the live installer and being nice to people | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | This morning I've read this. | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | I understand that somebody on the internet will always be trolling, but I just wanted to point out: | Jul 01 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.gl-como.it | Social@GL-Como (display) | Jul 01 06:13 | |
| schestowitz | * that the installer in the old live images has been broken (for international users) for years | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | * that nobody cared enough to fix it, not even the people affected by it (the issue was reported as known in various forums, but for a long time nobody even opened an issue to let the *developers* know). | Jul 01 06:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 06:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "How to break your licence with humour for dummies" | Jul 01 06:15 |
| XRevan86 | The thought of the "for good not evil" clause being legally enforced is a scary one. | Jul 01 06:18 |
| XRevan86 | One could define Evil as anything that goes against the American Way or something. | Jul 01 06:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kkgni/what_do_you_think_richard_stallmans_opinion_is_on/ | Jul 01 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think Richard Stallman's opinion is on the recent GNU/NT implementation? : linux | Jul 01 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/fQUMvfU | Jul 01 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nice proprietary software - Imgur | Jul 01 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: MinceR https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kdcme/why_does_systemd_have_its_own_dns_resolver/ | Jul 01 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why does systemd have it's own DNS resolver? : linux | Jul 01 06:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: #Systemd, #ELSA, and #OutlawCountry https://t.co/f9idGcrADo...' | Jul 01 06:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @DailyMirror In an age of medieval restrictions...' | Jul 01 06:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Systemd, ELSA, and OutlawCountry | Tux Machines | Jul 01 06:33 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it does list the features the systemd resolver has and a lot of other resolvers are missing. | Jul 01 06:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @DailyMirror In an age of...' | Jul 01 07:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105478373298177 | Jul 01 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief risk for customers | Jul 01 07:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 07:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105752156491777 | Jul 01 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 07:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881124181680812033 | Jul 01 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jul 01 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 08:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 08:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 08:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 08:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo...' | Jul 01 08:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881125845737369600 | Jul 01 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia | Jul 01 08:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Jul 01 08:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ioHzFEXjsO (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Radeon ProRender, Mir, Xwayland, NVidia GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System...' | Jul 01 08:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 08:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 08:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881126198868402176 | Jul 01 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeCAD development news and users | Jul 01 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE (www.tuxmachines.org) #cad | Jul 01 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #software | Jul 01 08:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeCAD development news and users | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:25 | |
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| -->cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights | Jul 01 08:27 | |
| cubexyz | ok, back to quasi-normal after the power failure | Jul 01 08:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Do you host maxhost.org at home? | Jul 01 08:30 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 01 08:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881127151550050304 | Jul 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, | Jul 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Design & Animation Software, #Linphone | Jul 01 08:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GZk1WayE5K (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: José, Buildah, Poppins, KeePassXC, LabPlot, Design & Animation Software, Linphone | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 08:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, Design &...' | Jul 01 08:38 | |
| cubexyz | ups is getting old :-/ | Jul 01 08:39 |
| cubexyz | battery only lasted 12 minutes this time | Jul 01 08:39 |
| cubexyz | ummm, 2004 | Jul 01 08:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeCAD development news and users https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE #cad...' | Jul 01 08:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 08:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/881131344016924672 | Jul 01 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jul 01 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 08:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia GPUs Linux...' | Jul 01 08:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881133485326557186 | Jul 01 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 08:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 08:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MrIvanJohnson https://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/881135153636147200 | Jul 01 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz thanks Roy, hadn't heard of | Jul 01 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pop!_OS (though knew of System76 of course). Interesting | Jul 01 09:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 09:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 09:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jul 01 09:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 09:15 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: because it has to have its own everything. | Jul 01 09:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @CNN Fox News is fake news also,...' | Jul 01 09:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881139405456592898 | Jul 01 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, | Jul 01 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft Abuses, and | Jul 01 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Restrictions https://t.co/MJW9c92vt1 | Jul 01 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Systemd, OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, Microsoft Abuses, and Restrictions | Tux Machines | Jul 01 09:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 09:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 09:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 09:17 | |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/99e6670ac7dab4089e4fd152cc83debf/tumblr_osbk3uQT6w1tjekmfo1_1280.jpg | Jul 01 09:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AlesonITC favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 09:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of other people's...' | Jul 01 09:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of...' | Jul 01 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held accountable? https://t.co/G9x3tKbqVk' | Jul 01 09:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Leaks reveal Amber Rudd's involvement in Bahamas offshore firms | Business | The Guardian | Jul 01 09:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held...' | Jul 01 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd. They play...' | Jul 01 09:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd....' | Jul 01 09:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4' | Jul 01 09:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4 | Jul 01 09:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4' | Jul 01 09:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Tories take away their health coverage Take...' | Jul 01 09:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Tories take away their health...' | Jul 01 10:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN | Jul 01 10:06 | |
| schestowitz | Red Hat lockin perhaps, MinceR | Jul 01 10:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 10:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 10:47 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 01 10:57 |
| MinceR | that's what it's all about | Jul 01 10:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6,...' | Jul 01 10:57 | |
| MinceR | make all former gnu/linux users depend on this massive hairball and make sure it's unmaintainable by anyone else | Jul 01 10:57 |
| MinceR | sell support contracts, rake in the money | Jul 01 10:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma Discover's...' | Jul 01 11:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn A year ago we protested #cameron tax...' | Jul 01 11:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn A year ago we protested...' | Jul 01 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/881170937521065984 | Jul 01 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 11:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881172493091975168 | Jul 01 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers | Jul 01 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gY9MLxzMcj (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hurd | Jul 01 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 11:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IkVdH | Jul 01 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A dump for your dump - Album on Imgur | Jul 01 11:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881173291762843649 | Jul 01 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It | Jul 01 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Matters https://t.co/cXkRUj7gDA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction to Kubernetes, New Release and Why It Matters | Tux Machines | Jul 01 11:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server #freesw | Jul 01 11:36 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may May lasted till the end of...' | Jul 01 11:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may May lasted till the...' | Jul 01 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/gY9MLxzMcj #gnu #linux...' | Jul 01 11:41 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dark-matter-2 http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497877575-20170619after.png | Jul 01 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dark Matter | Jul 01 11:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It...' | Jul 01 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881176710997307392 | Jul 01 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It | Jul 01 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Matters https://t.co/cXkRUj7gDA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server #freesw | Jul 01 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 11:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may When does May too give a...' | Jul 01 11:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may When does May too...' | Jul 01 12:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for billionaires... https://t.co/rvH8hO4NBR' | Jul 01 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for billionaires... https://t.co/rvH8hO4NBR | Jul 01 12:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for...' | Jul 01 12:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881185858535256065 | Jul 01 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers | Jul 01 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jOMwEVpXh1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 12:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881186174190186497 | Jul 01 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA | Jul 01 12:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jXxFISnGVS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 12:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in the Public Sector: NASA, GDPR, OSEHRA | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881186564520509440 | Jul 01 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: #FOSScamp,# ITOlympics, and #Containers | Jul 01 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microconference | Jul 01 12:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/msvPYXDJog (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: FOSScamp, IT Olympics, and Containers Microconference | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 12:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The Intercept got the Drone Files from...' | Jul 01 12:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks The Intercept got the Drone...' | Jul 01 12:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h' | Jul 01 12:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h | Jul 01 12:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h' | Jul 01 12:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188362144686081 | Jul 01 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Games | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188590214164480 | Jul 01 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora | Jul 01 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QOo7dwmhx4 (www.tuxmachines.org) news | Jul 01 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | leftovers | Jul 01 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 12:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188827443933184 | Jul 01 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jul 01 12:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lrNhecOIxf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881189816687349761 | Jul 01 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Jul 01 12:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/I3eei3qf7D (techrights.org) | Jul 01 12:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Techrights | Jul 01 12:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/881191681009299456 | Jul 01 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:53 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @JulianAssange The word liberal has been hijacked...' | Jul 01 12:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @schestowitz thanks Roy, hadn't heard of Pop!_OS...' | Jul 01 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881208896966324225 | Jul 01 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by OSS Leftovers | Jul 01 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jOMwEVpXh1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 13:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881210078413586433 | Jul 01 14:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA | Jul 01 14:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jXxFISnGVS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in the Public Sector: NASA, GDPR, OSEHRA | Tux Machines | Jul 01 14:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If I said, "illegally shot a [politician],"...' | Jul 01 14:17 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Qopzx | Jul 01 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A wood trunk carved down into frayed rope - Album on Imgur | Jul 01 14:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kaddourkardio favourited '#FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA...' | Jul 01 14:24 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkiCYT6tGH4 | Jul 01 14:27 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Translator's nightmare. | Jul 01 14:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 14:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881217028488663041 | Jul 01 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Events: #FOSScamp,# ITOlympics, and #Containers | Jul 01 14:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Microconference | Jul 01 14:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: FOSScamp, IT Olympics, and Containers Microconference | Tux Machines | Jul 01 14:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881222086915764224 | Jul 01 14:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 14:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Games | Tux Machines | Jul 01 14:53 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6HeO5Zf.jpg | Jul 01 14:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange It bothers them that not only does...' | Jul 01 15:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881226389327945728 | Jul 01 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora | Jul 01 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/QOo7dwmhx4 (www.tuxmachines.org) news | Jul 01 15:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | leftovers | Jul 01 15:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jul 01 15:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881228747223044097 | Jul 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jul 01 15:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/lrNhecOIxf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 15:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 15:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 15:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Techrights | Jul 01 15:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Jul 01 15:53 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/r7vdmAu.jpg | Jul 01 15:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/smartphones | Jul 01 16:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881239843912785920 | Jul 01 16:14 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/2Mizm | Jul 01 16:15 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I like how Breaking Bad makes fun of Intuit. | Jul 01 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | "I punched the numbers into Quckbooks and it turned green so that must be good, right?" | Jul 01 16:25 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | "You're managing your business accounts with Quickbooks.....I think I found the problem." | Jul 01 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Hey, I found a brand new bug in Fedora. :) | Jul 01 16:30 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jul 01 16:30 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hot-lava | Jul 01 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hot Lava | Jul 01 16:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Bug 1466986 - SELinux is preventing ibus-daemon from 'read' accesses on the lnk_file machine-id. | Jul 01 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Bug 1466984 - [abrt] gnome-shell: touch_handle_surface_destroy(): gnome-shell killed by signal 6 | Jul 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | Got that one yesterday. Went to close HexChat and the shell crashed. | Jul 01 16:31 |
| Elon_Satoshi | Anyone here heard of Parabola Linux? | Jul 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like the weird bugs with Wayland still occur. | Jul 01 16:32 |
| MinceR | i've heard someone managed to run xonotic on wayland without the forced vsync | Jul 01 16:32 |
| MinceR | on weston, specifically | Jul 01 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | Weston is just sort of a demo. | Jul 01 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's meant to be used. | Jul 01 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC woo databases are fun aren't they! :d | Jul 01 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 01 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | I went to clean out my dconf file because too much crap had accumulated in it. | Jul 01 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC seems that's the way for me too see my old texts on my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Phone now, since dind't do a proper back up, before ubporting it | Jul 01 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | and replacing the database file with my older one doens't just work either it seems | Jul 01 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to dump it to text and then hand edit the dead entries out of it and then you have to delete the database file and then tell dconf to import the text file you created. | Jul 01 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually harder to edit dconf to clean it out than it is the Windows Registry. | Jul 01 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I don't knpw about ubuntutuch/ubports | Jul 01 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | there probably is some way to get it using my old database actasully | Jul 01 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | but maybe have to mess around with other files too etc | Jul 01 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | and it would be cleaner to start over really anyway, since for certain contacts I had hundreds of texts, with me and them, so soo much scroll back | Jul 01 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE doesn't use dconf and neither does Xfce. They use plain text files. | Jul 01 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and ubuntu touches uess a sqllite database | Jul 01 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | and uhmm maybe osmething ele some wehre for texts to hmm | Jul 01 16:36 |
| sebsebseb | ubuntutouch/ubports | Jul 01 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | If one gets messed up, then the error it causes is contained to that particular app. | Jul 01 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | If you lose a binary database, you lose everything. | Jul 01 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | So while you may lose your preferences for Kwrite, that's all. | Jul 01 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | But in GNOME, you'd lose all your preferences for everything in GNOME. | Jul 01 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | From Mutter to the Shell to every single app. | Jul 01 16:38 |
| MinceR | inb4 oiaohm_ mentions that slowlaris had registry before winblows | Jul 01 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | They set out to recreate the Windows Registry. :P | Jul 01 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | So if you lose one file, you're kind of screwed. | Jul 01 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't control the entire OS though, so your OS will still boot. :P | Jul 01 16:39 |
| MinceR | gnome used to not control the entire os | Jul 01 16:39 |
| MinceR | then systemd happened | Jul 01 16:39 |
| MinceR | though they probably have yet to 'integrate' dconf into systemd | Jul 01 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | systemd and wayland are now dependencies of GNOME. | Jul 01 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Right now they are soft dependencies. | Jul 01 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Only certain features are lost if you don't have systemd, like multiseat. | Jul 01 16:40 |
| MinceR | but what are you gonna do without multiseat? | Jul 01 16:40 |
| MinceR | what's the point of life without multiseat? | Jul 01 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | At some point in the future, when Wayland is sufficiently stable, the GNOME and GTK backends for X11 will be removed, I'm sure. | Jul 01 16:41 |
| MinceR | no, well before wayland is sufficiently stable | Jul 01 16:41 |
| MinceR | remember, you're talking about gnome | Jul 01 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, FreeBSD still has GNOME. | Jul 01 16:41 |
| MinceR | not for long | Jul 01 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Multiseat doesn't work, but everything else does. | Jul 01 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of carrying ConsoleKit and patching it back into GNOME, they decided to drop multiseat. | Jul 01 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really a feature most people use. | Jul 01 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland wasn't designed to be used on FreeBSD either. | Jul 01 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | It makes heavy use of Linux-only features. | Jul 01 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if the BSDs want it, they will need to implement those features first. | Jul 01 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | The BSD folks hate Linux though. They hate Linux more than they like BSD. | Jul 01 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | There really isn't a whole lot of demand for BSD as a good desktop OS, so I doubt fixing it up is a high priority. | Jul 01 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was a bit aggravated when fesco decided to rename Fedora's GNOME spin to "Fedora Workstation". | Jul 01 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like you can't have a workstation if you don't run GNOME. | Jul 01 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm more or less happy with GNOME the way I have it set up, but the GNOME developers really pushed hard for their broken GNOME 3 HIG and made it too painful to even consider trying to fix it for years. | Jul 01 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Now they gave up and declared that they won't break the extensions every release anymore. | Jul 01 16:46 |
| MinceR | afaict the freebsd folks love windows and macos more than they love freebsd | Jul 01 16:46 |
| MinceR | so them hating everything linux isn't exactly a surprise | Jul 01 16:46 |
| MinceR | lol @ running redhat crap (and especially gnome) on an alleged "workstation" | Jul 01 16:47 |
| MinceR | "here's my workstation. i use it for rebooting 9001 times a day." | Jul 01 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can run RHEL as a desktop. They offer a subscription that isn't THAT expensive, but the subscription is really for support. | Jul 01 16:47 |
| MinceR | sure i can | Jul 01 16:47 |
| MinceR | but i'm not a masochist | Jul 01 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't need support you can use CentOS for free. | Jul 01 16:48 |
| MinceR | so i won't | Jul 01 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat doesn't mind CentOS, and in fact they encourage it. | Jul 01 16:48 |
| MinceR | you can even use centos, and if you're lucky, dbus, systemd and packagekit will even let you have a bit of cpu time for your applications. | Jul 01 16:49 |
| MinceR | ratcrap bought centos | Jul 01 16:49 |
| MinceR | they couldn't stand not having direct control over it | Jul 01 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's not hard to see why. You start out with CentOS and you learn the Red Hat way to administer the system and then maybe later you need support and you can turn it into RHEL in-place with a few commands. | Jul 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/arctoplabs/status/881244610739175424 | Jul 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arctoplabs https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jul 01 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jul 01 16:50 |
| MinceR | you start out with centos and learn it's not worth bothering with, then you move on to devuan or slackware or funtoo | Jul 01 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 16:50 | |
| MinceR | correction | Jul 01 16:51 |
| MinceR | you can't reboot a "workstation" running cancerd 9001 times a day | Jul 01 16:51 |
| MinceR | it can't boot that fast | Jul 01 16:51 |
| MinceR | oh the irony. | Jul 01 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Will Red Hat have a majority on the CentOS Governing Board? | Jul 01 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Between current CentOS Project team members hired by Red Hat, and existing Red Hat employees forming the initial board, Red Hat employees comprise the majority of the Governing Board. Based upon the merit criteria, the existing board may nominate additional board members from either within or outside of Red Hat. The board is capped at a total of 11 directors and must consist of a majority of Red Hat employees." | Jul 01 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | Oh wow. | Jul 01 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | They took it over quietly by insisting on a majority on the CentOS board. | Jul 01 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Scientific Linux still exists. | Jul 01 16:56 |
| MinceR | they're all about leverage | Jul 01 16:57 |
| MinceR | just like another corporation based in a settlement the name of which starts with an R | Jul 01 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Red Hat gain by taking over CentOS? | Jul 01 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's still just a clone of RHEL. | Jul 01 16:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to make sense | Jul 01 16:59 |
| MinceR | much of what they do doesn't | Jul 01 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Fedora is moving towards a rolling release, slowly. | Jul 01 16:59 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Jul 01 17:00 |
| MinceR | that's one way in which it could become even more of a toy | Jul 01 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Testing before packages go into Rawhide and no more alpha releases seems like the start of that. | Jul 01 17:00 |
| MinceR | besides, they stopped even trying to be stable ages ago | Jul 01 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Wanting to make Rawhide into something you *could* use daily with only minor problems instead of "Yeah, it breaks every few weeks. Watch out." seems logical. | Jul 01 17:01 |
| MinceR | minor problems? | Jul 01 17:01 |
| MinceR | they don't need minor problems, they have systemd, gnome and YUM | Jul 01 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fedor 26 isn't even out yet and they're currently carrying 79 patches against the latest version of systemd. | Jul 01 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's alarming, really. | Jul 01 17:01 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 17:02 |
| MinceR | carrying patches against systemd means they carry systemd | Jul 01 17:02 |
| ---oiaohm_ is now known as oiaohm | Jul 01 17:02 | |
| MinceR | and that's quite alarming | Jul 01 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Release now, turn your Enterprise Linux users into beta testers. | Jul 01 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Patch as you go. :P | Jul 01 17:02 |
| MinceR | "enterprise" | Jul 01 17:02 |
| MinceR | why does it increasingly look like "enterprise" is a derogatory term? | Jul 01 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | That 4 GB memory leak in 18 days on RHEL is something that wouldn't have been tolerated until RHEL 7. | Jul 01 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | By the time they stabilize one thing, they've already released a brand new replacement for something else. | Jul 01 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | So part of your system is always not working quite right. | Jul 01 17:03 |
| MinceR | they stabilize things? | Jul 01 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | And every time, it ends up in the majority of Linux distributions, except for the weird ones that nobody uses. | Jul 01 17:04 |
| MinceR | i thought they just abandoned them and started over from zero | Jul 01 17:04 |
| MinceR | like this: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Jul 01 17:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT Model | Jul 01 17:04 | |
| MinceR | i assure you some people do use the weird ones | Jul 01 17:04 |
| MinceR | i'm typing on one of them right now :> | Jul 01 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | By the time GNOME 2.32 came along, it was working well. | Jul 01 17:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have never seen a registry on solaris. Binary logging systems yes. | Jul 01 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | A little too well.... | Jul 01 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | BAM! GNOME 3. | Jul 01 17:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so lendows does copy windows, after all | Jul 01 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll do it again soon I'm sure. | Jul 01 17:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris had directories filled with xml files. | Jul 01 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is nearly at the point where GNOME 2 was when they trashed it. | Jul 01 17:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Jul 01 17:06 |
| MinceR | sure, gnome2 was shit, but it wasn't gnome3 | Jul 01 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | The MATE fork seems alright except for missing HiDPI support. | Jul 01 17:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen a registry in systemd or gnome. I have seen the interdependant files that solaris had. | Jul 01 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has a MATE spin but it's crap. | Jul 01 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't bother to set it up well like Ubuntu MATE or Linux Mint do. | Jul 01 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu MATE doesn't use Compiz by default. It uses Marco with software compositing, but you can chaange it to hardware compositing if you want. | Jul 01 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz was never very stable. | Jul 01 17:09 |
| MinceR | compiz was never stable | Jul 01 17:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/intro-smf-basics-s11-1729181.html | Jul 01 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Introducing the Basics of Service Management Facility (SMF) on Oracle Solaris 11 | Jul 01 17:09 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository is what solaris would call something like gconf in gnome. | Jul 01 17:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, extra points for building it into the hairball | Jul 01 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | "This is, I think, the most common way for my bug reports to open source software projects to ever become closed. I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version." | Jul 01 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've reported about 30 bugs in various open source products this past month. | Jul 01 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | One of them has been fixed upstream. | Jul 01 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | WebkitGTK+ rendering some pages and then displaying a blank white page instead. | Jul 01 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | They tracked it back to a commit from June of 2015. | Jul 01 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, This had the hilarious effect of making Midori unable to render midori-browser.org | Jul 01 17:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 01 17:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first appearance of the term configuration repository relates to CDE applications stacking all their configurations under ~/.dt | Jul 01 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently Midori can't render its own website for two years if you compile with Webkit2 version of WebkitGTK+ and nobody filed a bug report about it until I found it, MinceR | Jul 01 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck? | Jul 01 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | How do you miss THAT? | Jul 01 17:15 |
| MinceR | by not using midori | Jul 01 17:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it called what QA | Jul 01 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | The people who write Midori don't actually compile with all possible backends and then test them? | Jul 01 17:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly very common in open source. Person is scratching itch so only test what they use unless it mandated. | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, totally an open source thing | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | like windows | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | they never test it | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | because it's open source | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | i'll look for another example | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | microsoft office! | Jul 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | no, wait, that's not it either | Jul 01 17:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I said it common in open source. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's so specific to open source | Jul 01 17:17 |
| oiaohm | I did not say closed did not suffer from it. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| oiaohm | Closed source is likely not to test at all. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| MinceR | it's why the morons of redmond realized their usb stack was a pile of garbage and replaced with the one from freebsd | Jul 01 17:17 |
| MinceR | oh wait, they never fixed it. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| oiaohm | So it broken in all forms. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is about to be finalized and it's got quite a few bugs left and some are quite serious. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | I even had a kernel oops yesterday. | Jul 01 17:17 |
| oiaohm | Open source at least 1 option works if you know what one. | Jul 01 17:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a difference. | Jul 01 17:18 |
| MinceR | m$, with the help of ibm and crApple, made it acceptable and even expected in IT that products just don't work | Jul 01 17:18 |
| MinceR | people don't bat an eye if they have to reboot because the software or the hardware has shit the bed again | Jul 01 17:18 |
| MinceR | testing and bugfixing is considered a waste of resources | Jul 01 17:18 |
| MinceR | nowadays we can be glad if the product has any useful functionality that works at all | Jul 01 17:18 |
| MinceR | as the example of the iPhone shows, people actually don't insist on it anymore | Jul 01 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796#c3 | Jul 01 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Get this one... | Jul 01 17:19 |
| MinceR | they don't even expect it anymore | Jul 01 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 173796 – [GStreamer] Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jul 01 17:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Michael Catanzaro 2017-06-23 18:35:53 PDT | Jul 01 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Hey Victor, any chance you have time to look into this one? | Jul 01 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | (Also... is gstreamer1-vaapi intended to be installed by default by distros? Because right now, it's not. It's really not great that we have two different sets of bugs depending on whether this package is installed or not.) | Jul 01 17:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note I said open source test what they use. Note what you said testing and bugfixing to closed source waste of resources. Unless it manated you can bet on closed source not having any testing at all. | Jul 01 17:19 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i was hoping for a screenshot | Jul 01 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Without vaapi, it just melts your laptop when you play a video, but with vaapi, it corrupts the video sometimes. | Jul 01 17:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, in software in general, untested products are common | Jul 01 17:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: decisions, decisions | Jul 01 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | So it's unusable either way. | Jul 01 17:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: or you could try some other browser engine :> | Jul 01 17:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: level of untested is different. | Jul 01 17:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they all suck, but some of them might suck less in this particular way | Jul 01 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I bumped my WebkitGTK+ package to 2.16.5 the other day. Turns out it doesn't fix any of the problems I've had. | Jul 01 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | What a shock. | Jul 01 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Crashing when trying to save images on certain sites. | Jul 01 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Blank white page instead of rendering some sites. | Jul 01 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Video corruption with vaapi enabled. | Jul 01 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Melting laptop without vaapi. | Jul 01 17:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that VA-API play back issue. If you can download the video and play it in vlc forced to VA-API. I have had a few cases where it VA-API busted. | Jul 01 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, but please let's work on sync that uses Firefox Sync servers but doesn't actually sync with Firefox.... | Jul 01 17:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I have also had a few cases where it gstreamer. | Jul 01 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Firefox Sync support only syncs your Epiphany (GNOME Web) stuff with other Epiphany browsers. | Jul 01 17:23 |
| MinceR | i don't trust these sync things | Jul 01 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has no compatibility with Firefox at all. Mozilla is said to be discussing ways to sync <> Epiphany. | Jul 01 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | That *would* be cool, but I see where this could end up being just another broken feature that lingers for a while and gets backed out. | Jul 01 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | The video quality of HEVC doesn't seem to fit the hype. | Jul 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | People are using it at half the bitrate of their old H264 releases and it does not look "Just as good at half the bitrate.". | Jul 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Am I the only person with eyes that work? | Jul 01 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that it makes some improvements to H264 bu they've been totally exaggerated. | Jul 01 17:26 |
| MinceR | of course they are, the clock is ticking | Jul 01 17:26 |
| MinceR | H264 patents will expire eventually | Jul 01 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | This sounds like Microsoft WMA all over again. "Just as good as MP3 at half the bitrate!". | Jul 01 17:26 |
| MinceR | they'll have to get the suckers to depend on newer patents | Jul 01 17:27 |
| MinceR | preferably with mandatory DRM | Jul 01 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Netflix is moving to it. Perhaps the bandwidth savings are worth the patent royalty fees? | Jul 01 17:27 |
| MinceR | perhaps they get a discount | Jul 01 17:27 |
| MinceR | for getting suckers into the racket | Jul 01 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably also want to get the streams as small as possible to deal with the shitty internet providers in the US like Comcast who have their foot on the hose. :P | Jul 01 17:28 |
| MinceR | it won't work | Jul 01 17:28 |
| MinceR | comcast can restrict bandwidth as much as they want to | Jul 01 17:28 |
| MinceR | no miracle codec will help with that | Jul 01 17:28 |
| MinceR | has the orange-skinned psychopath eliminated the last vestiges of net neutrality yet? | Jul 01 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | His saboteur at the FCC is working on the process. They even had a pretend public comment phase and then closed it without paying attention to the public outrage. | Jul 01 17:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 01 17:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/h264_2012/mpeg4_avc_h264_video_codecs_comparison.pdf the improvement over H264 that H265 HEVC is a little hard. Thinking the open source x264 performs the best out of the H264 encoders. | Jul 01 17:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: most of the compares of H265 HEVC are against the standard closed source H264 encoder. | Jul 01 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've been happy enough with h.264. | Jul 01 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | People used to distribute videos using divx and it was awful. | Jul 01 17:36 |
| oiaohm | There is a divx H264 | Jul 01 17:36 |
| oiaohm | and that one is the closed source standard one. | Jul 01 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | ASP codecs just generally did not produce good quality files. | Jul 01 17:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes H265 closed source kicks the ass out divx H264. Not so good against x264 | Jul 01 17:37 |
| oiaohm | So it what you compare to. | Jul 01 17:38 |
| oiaohm | Now when H265 patents expire and open source developers can play with it who knows how good it will be. | Jul 01 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's good that we have open source because you can have a nasty maintainer of an open source project that acts like Hitler with it or tries to close it up again and delete the source code with no warning. | Jul 01 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | But other projects can simply fork it. | Jul 01 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | So I simply switched to xvid when that happened and everything was okay again. | Jul 01 17:39 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue with x264 is performance in encoding. | Jul 01 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid#Sigma_Designs_controversy | Jul 01 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Xvid - Wikipedia | Jul 01 17:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, the same thing happened with Parallels Desktop (commonly used on Macs to run Windows in a VM). They stole a bunch of Wine Direct3D code and were refusing to comply with the license for a while. | Jul 01 17:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: xvid is H.263 and x264 contains a lot of features from xvid that made it good. | Jul 01 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | The same companies that tell us that piracy is a crime (Sony for example) end up pirating open source software an awful lot. Sony used LAME in violation of the GPL and the MPAA used Xubuntu in violation of the GPL and many other licenses. | Jul 01 17:42 |
| oiaohm | I remember the Parallel one codeweavers got to first court hearing against them before they backed down. | Jul 01 17:45 |
| oiaohm | Codeweavers will serous-ally legally protect wine. | Jul 01 17:46 |
| MinceR | B$A also got caught for reproducing comments on laws from CompLex's Jogtar illegally | Jul 01 17:46 |
| MinceR | not sure if they got punished for it though | Jul 01 17:47 |
| MinceR | but the double standard is apparent | Jul 01 17:47 |
| oiaohm | The funny one was Microsoft windows iso writer using GPL. | Jul 01 17:47 |
| oiaohm | http://winsupersite.com/news/rafael-vindicated-microsoft-did-steal-open-source-code-usbdvd-tool | Jul 01 17:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winsupersite.com | Rafael is Vindicated: Microsoft Did Steal Open Source Code for USB/DVD Tool | News content from SuperSite for Windows | Jul 01 17:49 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/73IPnuF | Jul 01 17:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Tux Machines | Jul 01 18:08 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-reason | Jul 01 18:22 |
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| Elon_Satoshi | MinceR: That can't be real | Jul 01 18:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 18:37 |
| Elon_Satoshi | I'm trying to install Parabola Linux on my laptop. AFAIK the best GNU approved operating system | Jul 01 18:39 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.insiderchi.com/video-chicago-man-drives-94-traffic-boot/ | Jul 01 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | ROFL | Jul 01 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insiderchi.com | [VIDEO] Chicago Man Drives On I-94 With Traffic Boot - Insider Chi | Jul 01 20:06 | |
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| cubexyz | I use BSD and I don't hate Linux | Jul 01 21:00 |
| cubexyz | ntp, bind, vi, tcp/ip stack... that all came from BSD | Jul 01 21:04 |
| cubexyz | I'm glad there is both really | Jul 01 21:05 |
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| cubexyz | Loki Games and LGP were important... Sony Bravia TVs... | Jul 01 21:08 |
| cubexyz | it would be illogical for me not to use both BSD and Linux | Jul 01 21:08 |
| cubexyz | also sendmail was from BSD, although I realize there are other mail servers | Jul 01 21:10 |
| cubexyz | we can thank the NCSA for apache and mosiac | Jul 01 21:12 |
| cubexyz | I think a lot of people are not aware of that | Jul 01 21:12 |
| cubexyz | apache was based on the NCSA httpd server | Jul 01 21:13 |
| cubexyz | the whole ctrl-alt-f1 thing was from Xenix | Jul 01 21:14 |
| cubexyz | and Xenix itself was based on Unix v7 | Jul 01 21:15 |
| cubexyz | so the reality is I'm what I'm using today is the aggregation of a lot of different ideas from different sources | Jul 01 21:16 |
| cubexyz | we can thank MIT, DEC and IBM for the development of the X Window System | Jul 01 21:17 |
| cubexyz | and yes, thank Stallman for gcc which I still use on openbsd | Jul 01 21:18 |
| cubexyz | BSD itself grew out of Bell Labs Unix | Jul 01 21:19 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs Unix v7 is pretty much the parent of all the *nixes | Jul 01 21:20 |
| cubexyz | Minix, Linux, the BSDs, Xenix... | Jul 01 21:21 |
| cubexyz | Leendert van Doorn (from the IBM watson team) wrote the TPM driver which is used by linux | Jul 01 21:36 |
| MinceR | i disabled the TPM from BIOS :> | Jul 01 21:39 |
| cubexyz | I have a TPM LKM on slack and I have no idea what it does | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | it lets you do wonderful things such as proving to corporate tyrants that you're running the code they want you to run | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | (or that you decapped the die and read the keys from it and are emulating it in software...) | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | for all the nastiness they put into it, they cheaped out when it came to tamper-resistance :> | Jul 01 21:41 |
| cubexyz | is there anything I need TPM for? | Jul 01 21:44 |
| cubexyz | I have no /dev/tpm* entries | Jul 01 21:45 |
| MinceR | nothing useful | Jul 01 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/only-me | Jul 01 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Only me! | Jul 01 21:45 | |
| cubexyz | so maybe it's not turned on in my BIOS either... I should check that | Jul 01 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/881311842404110337 | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jesusguevarauto https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 21:49 |
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| cubexyz | interestingly there's no tpm module on the chromebook | Jul 01 21:52 |
| cubexyz | running chromeos with crouton | Jul 01 21:52 |
| MinceR | well, of course | Jul 01 21:53 |
| MinceR | google controls the platform and they're not evil enough to include a TPM | Jul 01 21:53 |
| cubexyz | the TPM has an enhanced random number generator | Jul 01 21:56 |
| cubexyz | and can make SSL faster | Jul 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | not without its costs | Jul 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | like how can you know whether your adversaries will be able to predict the output of that alleged "random" number generator | Jul 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | and what sorts of flaws were built into that SSL acceleration | Jul 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | like putting bits of your private keys into the padding | Jul 01 21:57 |
| cubexyz | I think if the chromebook had TPM it probably got turned off when I installed crouton | Jul 01 21:58 |
| cubexyz | https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/about-infineon/press/press-releases/2011/INFCCS201107-054.html | Jul 01 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Infineon Security Microcontrollers Enhance Security of Google’s Chromebooks for Web-Based Applications - Infineon Technologies | Jul 01 22:03 | |
| MinceR | #961330 +(211)- [X] | Jul 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | <sikory> hmmm, people found a severed head in amsterdam | Jul 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | <sikory> police thinks that it might be connected to the headless body they found yesterday | Jul 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | <Gamah> sikory: well obviously it's not connected... | Jul 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | of course the people manufacturing the clipper chip would say it's benign | Jul 01 22:08 |
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| MinceR | #962802 +(224)- [X] | Jul 01 23:05 |
| MinceR | <tttb> Why did the programmer quit his job? | Jul 01 23:05 |
| MinceR | <tttb> because he didn't get arrays | Jul 01 23:05 |
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| cubexyz | everyone's a joker | Jul 01 23:11 |
| MinceR | why so serious? | Jul 01 23:11 |
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| cubexyz | in the movie Snowden smuggles a microSD card via rubik's cube | Jun 25 05:24 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 05:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe Snowden could score me some Dell BIOS source code | Jun 25 05:26 |
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| cubexyz | and it seems Snowden BSed a bit about his resume | Jun 25 05:28 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWDuzOtpBiw | Jun 25 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Many microSD Cards Fit in a Rubik's Cube? - YouTube | Jun 25 07:41 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2540934.html | Jun 25 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Re: [vs-plain] Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas — Linux Kernel [ http://ur1.ca/r25ig ] | Jun 25 07:56 | |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 25 07:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://ijbswa.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ijbswa/current/acconfig.h?revision=1.48&view=markup | Jun 25 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ijbswa.cvs.sourceforge.net | SourceForge.net Repository - [ijbswa] Contents of /current/acconfig.h [ http://ur1.ca/r25wl ] | Jun 25 08:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Ditch FEATURE_IMAGE_DETECT_MSIE | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's an obsolete workaround we inherited from Junkbuster | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | and was already disabled by default. | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | Users that feel the urge to work around issues with | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | image requests coming from an Internet Explorer version | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | from more than 15 years ago can still do this using tags. | Jun 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | LOL! | Jun 25 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | " * BEOS does not currently support POSIX threads." | Jun 25 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | I think that it still doesn't. :) | Jun 25 08:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878887687561904128 | Jun 25 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by OSS Leftovers | Jun 25 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/xpqhhtGgt6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 25 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 09:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:11 | |
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| schestowitz | [05:25] <cubexyz> I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | I think they just identified in him the mall or whatever in HK this way | Jun 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he used it to smuggle the data | Jun 25 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878888241629364224 | Jun 25 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Microsoft #Openwashing and Spin | Jun 25 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/0pNkFErKNh (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 09:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 09:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing and Spin | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878890534739300352 | Jun 25 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Jun 25 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/Bq0zzizYwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 25 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498 | Jun 25 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framapiaf.org | Framapiaf | Jun 25 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | "https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498" | Jun 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | techrights blocked in some places in France? | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878891113284870145 | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | " Comparing to another traceroute that succeeds, I suspect it's the final node (204.68.122.43) that filters me out when I come from 176.182.10.*" | Jun 25 09:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=Tuxmachines.org | Jun 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Jun 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | so maybe it's our side... | Jun 25 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tuxmachines.org - American Internet Services, LLC. In San Diego United States | IP-Tracker.org Lookup Locator [ http://ur1.ca/r26a4 ] | Jun 25 09:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878891796499189761 | Jun 25 09:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 24/6/2017: GNOME Music Improves, FreeBSD 11.1 Beta | Jun 25 09:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 3 https://t.co/3Xvdbb0CsP (techrights.org) | Jun 25 09:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/6/2017: GNOME Music Improves, FreeBSD 11.1 Beta 3 | Techrights | Jun 25 09:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878893513139785728 | Jun 25 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Freedom vs Free vs Open | Jun 25 09:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/rseNX04XNS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeesw | Jun 25 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Freedom vs Free vs Open | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#Freedom vs Free vs Open https://t.co/rseNX04XNS #freeesw...' | Jun 25 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/esme35975435/status/878901000018337792 | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @esme35975435 in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 10:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878907235098927105 | Jun 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact | Jun 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XLCgnn7Yyk (www.tuxmachines.org) #security | Jun 25 10:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact | Tux Machines | Jun 25 10:29 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact https://t.co/XLCgnn7Yyk #security...' | Jun 25 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vinumrioja https://twitter.com/vinumrioja/status/878918644985737217 | Jun 25 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest VinumRioja! https://t.co/0QDegRz07K (paper.li) | Jun 25 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Thanks to @lavozdetarija @comprar_vino @tuxmachines #wine | Jun 25 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vino | Jun 25 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | VinumRioja | Jun 25 11:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878918726262849536 | Jun 25 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users | Jun 25 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4OpeQrdE7Q (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 25 11:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users | Tux Machines | Jun 25 11:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Essential Applications for GNU/Linux Users https://t.co/4OpeQrdE7Q #gnu #linux...' | Jun 25 11:24 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, #PeppermintOS, and...' | Jun 25 11:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878929901260353536 | Jun 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Liri – Loves me, loves me not … at all | Jun 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hTOmJWeJV3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #liri #gnu | Jun 25 12:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 25 12:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Liri – Loves me, loves me not … at all | Tux Machines | Jun 25 12:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Liri – Loves me, loves me not …...' | Jun 25 12:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, #System76, and 2017...' | Jun 25 12:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Theresa and her BFF across the Atlantic...' | Jun 25 12:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Theresa and her BFF across...' | Jun 25 12:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878934886446399488 | Jun 25 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian 9 Review: Stable Like Ever, Better Than Most | Jun 25 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8iDcdDoQmr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 12:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | review. | Jun 25 12:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9 Review: Stable Like Ever, Better Than Most | Tux Machines | Jun 25 12:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends Rupert Murdoch loves you. One billionaire...' | Jun 25 13:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Respect is worship War is peace Assassination...' | Jun 25 13:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Respect is worship War is...' | Jun 25 13:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks He keeps choosing decent publications to put...' | Jun 25 14:38 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/69cp2Q1 | Jun 25 16:05 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/geek-sleeping | Jun 25 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Geek-Sleeping | Jun 25 16:24 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/YqOPjl7 | Jun 25 16:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks He keeps choosing decent publications...' | Jun 25 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | nice! | Jun 25 16:59 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/hN4YX | Jun 25 17:00 |
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| MinceR | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00308.html | Jun 25 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | [WARNING] Intel Skylake/Kaby Lake processors: broken hyper-threading | Jun 25 18:06 | |
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| MinceR | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/australia-to-target-encrypted-messaging-apps-at-upcoming-security-meeting/ | Jun 25 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Australia advocates weakening strong crypto at upcoming “Five Eyes” meeting | Ars Technica | Jun 25 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Jun 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | typical fieve eyes | Jun 25 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879040243931938816 | Jun 25 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/X2EAU6IHaw | Jun 25 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879045294087864321 | Jun 25 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #KStars, #Qt in #Debian, #KDE #Plasma 5 Regional | Jun 25 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Settings Format, #Krita and More #GSoC Work | Jun 25 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cqdDL67KdD (www.tuxmachines.org) #google | Jun 25 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: KStars, Qt in Debian, KDE Plasma 5 Regional Settings Format, Krita and More GSoC Work | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:36 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-last-one | Jun 25 19:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Last One | Jun 25 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879045740907180032 | Jun 25 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE: #KStars, #Qt in #Debian, #KDE #Plasma 5 Regional | Jun 25 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Settings Format, #Krita and More #GSoC Work | Jun 25 19:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 25 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HamishTMB on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 25 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/AN775XmCMI (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi | Jun 25 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 25 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959465#post959465 | Jun 25 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | "More like dangerous to run Debian. You're telling me that I'm supposed to run this crap on a production system and disable one of the biggest perks of having a Core i7? HAHA! No. Their refusal to ship device firmware is really stupid. The whole reason we have firmware is to avoid precisely this kind of situation. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Back in the 90s when Intel processors didn't have replaceable firmware, things like the Pendtium FDIV and F00F bugs required removing the processor and sending it to Intel for a replacement. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | The processors that misbehave under Debian won't misbehave under Fedora, because Fedora ships and updates linux-firmware quite often. Also, my wifi works. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny how Debian goes to all this trouble to be "Free", but then they package things like Widevine, Flash, RAR, etc. and just say that it's not officially part of Debian. The FSF has Debian on the non-recommended list of distributions even though Debian policy makes it much harder than necessary to set your computer up properly and most people end up figuring out a way to get the firmware anyway because they have devices that don't | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | work without it. There is no functional difference, spare a little disk space used, of making available and pre-installing the firmware, since if you don't have the device, it will never get loaded, and few (if any) users want their computer to be non-functional in some way if it's missing. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is actually more Free by the FSF's own guidelines than Debian is. While Fedora ships firmware, the FSF would declare Debian non-Free for suggesting the firmware or making it available, which it does, but Fedora does not suggest, pre-install, or make available the non-Free software that is hosted by Debian. They don't stop you from installing it yourself from RPM Fusion and they don't try to break it (which would make an operating | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | system non-Free if it did), but RPM Fusion is another project that is not made available by default or recommended by the Fedora project websites. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | While there is some effort to set Fedora up, critical hardware isn't broken out-of-the-box simply due to lack of firmware. Debian has picked some odd policies and it continues to do so. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Also, after a while, Debian Stable becomes crusty enough that it won't work properly on new-ish hardware. Not only is the kernel Linux that it ships with sufficiently old that it still has a bunch of Skylake behavior that will make your laptop less efficient and will run down your battery, they insist on breaking the wifi chip until you can install the iwlwifi firmware (which is more of a pain because modern laptops don't have ethernet | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | ports!), *and* to top it off, if you don't disable Hyperthreading, then certain Skylake processors will malfunction on Debian unless the manufacturer releases a new BIOS, which, guess what, probably only installs if you have Windows(!) all because Debian won't ship firmware for the kernel to replace on boot to solve things like this, like a sane OS does. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even consider Debian. The people making their policies are braindead. There shouldn't be a struggle to set up a modern operating system. Sure, there are things to install and settings to tweak in Fedora, but it's not effing broken right out of the gate. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I pretty much use Fedora because on other distributions my laptop is somewhat broken and finding out why or fixing it robs me of the time that I could be using my computer. If I ever want Long Term Stable, I'll go with CentOS. Whenever 8 is out, I guess. You could conceivably install CentOS and never have to do a distribution upgrade again. It's supported for longer than a Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS, and it gets feature and | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | driver backports." | Jun 25 20:08 |
| schestowitz | ta | Jun 25 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, TL;DR: The Debian policies are nonsensical, break hardware, and burden the user, and they're still not FSF Free. | Jun 25 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | So they have nothing to show for it except another spot on the list of operating systems that the FSF does not recommend. It has to be even more broken than out-of-box Debian for them to get behind it. | Jun 25 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | The FSF was recommending Nvidia cards for a while because of Nouveau reverse engineering the firmware, but then Nvidia stepped in and made their non-Free firmware redistributable, so Nouveau users get that now. | Jun 25 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | On older cards too, because the reverse engineered firmware didn't always set up the card properly. | Jun 25 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia still isn't assisting Nouveau to the level that Intel or AMD assist the Free driver projects. | Jun 25 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia gives them some firmware blobs and minimal documentation on how to setup the cards. Some information defining registers, etc. It's nothing that you could make a driver that competes with Nvidia proprietary from. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | They consider Nouveau to be a broken stub driver like NV was until you get around to installing theirs. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | By the time Nouveau works as well as theirs does, the hardware is 5-6 years old. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's proprietary driver has a bunch of cases where if you are using OpenGL properly, it's slooooooow, so video game publishers just code for the Nvidia driver now and tell AMD/Intel users to fuck right off. | Jun 25 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Civilization 6 does that. | Jun 25 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | There are other games competing for my money though, so by coding for Nvidia only, they're losing their opportunity. | Jun 25 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959470#post959470 | Jun 25 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 20:34 | |
| DaemonFC | "AMD has had nasty bugs too. Remember the original Phenom? They disabled TLB and made the processors slower, like, by double digit (10-20%) percentages. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | So you had a choice. If you weren't running into the problem, you could choose not to update your BIOS, and if you were affected and wanted to do something to avoid triggering it, it was like a major processor downgrade. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | You can read about the bugs that end up affecting AMD processors because they publish them in Erratum. They're really intended to document the problems for people like Linux kernel developers, so they fly under the radar usually, but there are a lot of them. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Like with Intel, most can be fixed, but only if you run newer firmware, which Debian won't include. So under Debian, you're basically running with the firmware that the BIOS loaded when the computer booted up, regardless of if it's broken and by how much. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these bugs end up creating security vulnerabilities, so even if you run a fully patched Debian, without the firmware updates, you aren't getting the fixes applied to the firmware by the hardware vendor." | Jun 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, intel's list of cpus their firmware update applies to omits all i7s | Jun 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | also i3, i5 and i9 | Jun 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | but who uses those, right? | Jun 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | and lenovo, in their infinite wisdom, removed the bios setup option where you could disable ht | Jun 25 20:38 |
| MinceR | because nobody could ever possibly have any reason to do so | Jun 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=2017-Linux-Laptop-Survey-Early | Jun 25 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Early Look At Our 2017 Linux Laptop Survey Results So Far - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2bcn ] | Jun 25 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I filled out the laptop survey | Jun 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like 90% of people who end up running Linux who answered the survey got there by nuking Windows and installing Linux after the fact. | Jun 25 20:39 |
| MinceR | that's a lot of people who use gnu/linux and yet are willing to hand information to a site that is openly hostile to gnu/linux | Jun 25 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora was at 14%. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu at 39%. Really? Ubuntu is hell. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | ah yes, the "i wish i was using windows" distros | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I get weird bugs caused by their broken patches. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | > docs.google.com | Jun 25 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | yeah, right | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can't be the only one that happens to. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, ubuntu sucsk | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | s/sk/ks/ | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | "Lenovo was the most popular laptop brand at 40%." | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | they patched systray support out of Liferea even though it was already optional | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to fight like hell just to get them to release a BIOS that allowed me to install Linux to the SSD on this computer. | Jun 25 20:41 |
| MinceR | doing extra work just to screw the user! | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're back at it apparently, releasing BIOSes with RAID lock. | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, Ubuntu is so fucked that Kubuntu had to make an indicators plasma widget in the system tray to support applications that Ubuntu had patched systray support out of. | Jun 25 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Which means that the KDE apps use systray and the rest use indicators, and Kubuntu put in a kludge so that they can deal with that without the user noticing. | Jun 25 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't get why people use Ubuntu. | Jun 25 20:43 |
| MinceR | same reason they use other lendows distros | Jun 25 20:44 |
| MinceR | they like to suffer | Jun 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's this large and growing and increasingly profitable business and it's still acting like it's someone's Kickstarter project that shames you into donating to it. | Jun 25 20:44 |
| MinceR | if people had a clue, it would not be profitable | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It actually has a donation page on the download links that asks you to donate. They support Paypal and Bitcoin and Flattr and a bunch of others. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | but apparently fucking things up is the biggest business in our society | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I suppose people are actually just funding broken NIH crap that eventually crawls into a corner and dies. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | if only it died | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | None of the software that Ubuntu developed itself succeeded. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/1246134916.jpg | Jun 25 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Amazon crapware actually provoked one reviewer, don't remember who, to comment "This is like getting a new PC with Windows and having to immediately figure out how to uninstall the bloatware.". | Jun 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | that's easy, they didn't develop much | Jun 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | they'll go with the atrocious choices debian makes, knowing they're atrocious, just to avoid doing a bit of work | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They've actually had a lot of big and failed projects. | Jun 25 20:47 |
| MinceR | not big enough | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart, Unity, Mir, Unity 8 (never saw the light of day), indicators... | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Snappy will fail too. | Jun 25 20:47 |
| MinceR | well, i guess they're bigger than "just switch upstream to devuan" | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They were paying a team of developers to create all these dead end projects. | Jun 25 20:48 |
| MinceR | so i really don't get these people | Jun 25 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually Shuttleworth decided that he wanted to be let up for air and canceled them to save himself money. | Jun 25 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Mir and Unity 8 made no sense to continue. Without Ubuntu on devices, they're pouring hundreds of thousandss of dollars into Unity 8 to put on people's desktops for free? | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | That won't work. | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their goal all along has been to subvert standards and destroy consensus. | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | They mask it with their "Code of Conduct" and whatnot. | Jun 25 20:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#CoreOS and #OpenStack News https://t.co/aWPfnBoduO #server #container #gnu...' | Jun 25 20:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CoreOS and OpenStack News | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was actually kind of funny. Some other distributions tried to package and support Unity and they gave up because it would require breaking a ton of other software or patching things like indicators out of Unity. | Jun 25 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879064376808001537 | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879064614750834691 | Jun 25 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/X2EAU6IHaw | Jun 25 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 25 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 20:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:53 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So, what are they doing with Gnome. They said they're dropping "hundreds" of patches that were there to support Unity, but there's already a "unity-session" in Ubuntu 17.10 that is still in Main, and it brings in Unity 7. | Jun 25 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're stuck supporting Unity 7 at least until 16.04 LTS is out of support in 2021, so might as well make it available, I guess, but it can probably only decay out of the context of 16.04. | Jun 25 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Newer Gnome software will be brought in on newer releases and eventually Unity is going to fall apart. | Jun 25 20:57 |
| MinceR | 25 215127 < DaemonFC> I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 20:59 |
| MinceR | some people do take that inside, though | Jun 25 21:00 |
| MinceR | it just needs a helpful "microsoft", "apple" or "red hat" logo | Jun 25 21:00 |
| MinceR | that's all it takes | Jun 25 21:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:00 | |
| DaemonFC | <KtecK> hmm some of those linux shipping laptops do look pretty cool.. too bad they only support linux | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> My minecraft video hasn't got good bit of views.. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> Maybe i should just give a few more days before making a new video.. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> KtecK, Maybe get one from LOL NO! Vo that only supports Windows? | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> They're back at it again with sabotaged BIOSes that lock you to "RAID". | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Makes it impossible to install Linux unless they go back and fix it at some point. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> I've started recommending the Dell XPS Developer Edition or System76 because at least you know it boots Ubuntu, which gives you a way in to install Fedora. :) | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> The XPS Developer Edition that supports Linux is about the same price as a similarly configured LOL NO! Vo with the BIOS locked to prevent Linux. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | my favorite kind of RAID is the one that's built from 1 device | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jun 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | all the XPS Developer Edition lacks is build quality and warranty support | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | but i guess some people don't need that | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | maybe you can restrain the lid with a board nailed to the wall so the hinges being total garbage won't matter | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | just don't move it. ever. | Jun 25 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> LOL NO! Vo's favorite "RAID" is one that is built around one storage device to trick Windows into loading a power management policy from Intel because there's no other way to do a driver override on Crap OS. | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Maybe in some future mandatory upgrade and randome reboot funtime. | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | I stole that from MinceR | Jun 25 21:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/compatibilism | Jun 25 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Compatibilism | Jun 25 21:05 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> What? You lost $40,000 of scientific research to Windows 10? Should have read the EULA! | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Oh no! All of your Azure Red Hat instances got blue pilled? Do the EULA HULA! | Jun 25 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/24/microsoft_windows_10_update/ | Jun 25 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | 'Windows 10 destroyed our data!' Microsoft hauled into US court • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/r2bls ] | Jun 25 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | The complaint [PDF], filed in Chicago's US District Court on Thursday, charges that Microsoft Windows 10 is a defective product and that its maker failed to provide adequate warning about the potential risks posed by Windows 10 installation – specifically system stability and data loss. | Jun 25 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft "failed to exercise reasonable care in designing, formulating, and manufacturing the Windows 10 upgrade and placing it into the stream of commerce," the complaint claims. "As a result of its failure to exercise reasonable care, [the company] distributed an operating system that was liable to cause loss of data or damage to hardware." | Jun 25 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | The attorneys representing the trio are seeking to have the case certified as a class action that includes every person in the US who upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and suffered data loss or damage to software or hardware within 30 days of installation. They claim there are hundreds or thousands of affected individuals. | Jun 25 21:09 |
| MinceR | the warning was there | Jun 25 21:11 |
| MinceR | it said "Microsoft" right on the box! | Jun 25 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A man was killed by the CTA Pride Train. | Jun 25 21:16 |
| MinceR | what's that? | Jun 25 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | It was approaching Sox-35th when a man riding his bicycle on the platform lost his balance and fell over onto the tracks. | Jun 25 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | The rainbow colored train that CTA has for Chicago's Pride festival. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 25 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when people ride their bikes on the platform. It's not even allowed. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, he died so he won't be doing that again. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | natural selection | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | it's good that they sometimes still allow it to function | Jun 25 21:18 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/iXKqW | Jun 25 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-how to find out if your the father - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 21:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/OsanaGp/status/879066810406064133 | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @OsanaGp #WannaCry | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RandellSands retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CoreMedNetwork favourited 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/comely http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496933348-20170608after.png | Jun 25 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Comely | Jun 25 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464732 | Jun 25 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464732 – Gnome fails to start when SELinux boolean deny_execmem is turned on. | Jun 25 21:46 | |
| MinceR | at least it saves you from the pain of having to endure gnome | Jun 25 21:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm. | Jun 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | That's strange. | Jun 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trying to reproduce the broken PART messages in Pidgin for a bug report. | Jun 25 21:55 |
| MinceR | lol, pidgin | Jun 25 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC1 | Strange. | Jun 25 21:56 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/US2wA | Jun 25 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Last one I promise - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't make it do it now. | Jun 25 21:56 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, With the IRC Helper and IRC More plugins, it's a decent client. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| MinceR | yeah, i can see :> | Jun 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | Oh wow, somebody uses Pidgin for IRC but me. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | At least I know I'm mad :). | Jun 25 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in Hexchat right now. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully someone ports it to GTK+ 3 at some point. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Pidgin 3.x (git master) is Gtk3 only. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | oops, hg master | Jun 25 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | confused it for gajim for a moment, which migrated to git :) | Jun 25 22:00 |
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| DaemonFC | The way Xchat supported Windows was pretty weird. | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac#configure.ac-57 die proof | Jun 25 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket | Jun 25 22:02 | |
| XRevan86 | * https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac?fileviewer=file-view-default#configure.ac-573 | Jun 25 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket [ http://ur1.ca/r2bzu ] | Jun 25 22:02 | |
| MinceR | s/weird/shitty and illegal/ | Jun 25 22:02 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Jun 25 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Zed stripped a bunch of stuff out of GTK+ that Xchat wasn't using and called it MikiGTK and linked to that. | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Were MikiGTK sources available? | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/ seems so | Jun 25 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xchat.org | Index of /files/binary/win32/mini-src [ http://ur1.ca/r2c0a ] | Jun 25 22:03 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why illegal? | Jun 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | because the latest version of xchat was always proprietary | Jun 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | even though the sources they used were copyleft | Jun 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | the sources released were always at least 1 version behind | Jun 25 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe the author was the sole owner of the thing | Jun 25 22:05 |
| MinceR | afaik he wasn't | Jun 25 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | Why wouldn't he… unless he's ignorant about how things work | Jun 25 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | Oh well, it's all in the past :). Vivu HexChat | Jun 25 22:07 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/spandrels http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497013224-20170609after.png | Jun 25 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Spandrels [ http://ur1.ca/r2c1v ] | Jun 25 22:08 | |
| MinceR | because he's like cisco | Jun 25 22:08 |
| MinceR | the rules don't apply to him | Jun 25 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with the GPL is that many copyright holders don't assert their rights. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | So violators don't have any reason to be concerned. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| MinceR | yes, that's one of the problems with the GPL | Jun 25 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Happens with Linux all the time. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's never Linux copyright holders that sue, it's Busybox. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | and now proprietary distribution makers have toybox, what a joy | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why Sony started Toybox. So they can keep violating the license on Linux and other stuff and the Busybox people can't sue them. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Linux license is a paper tiger. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, it may as well be licensed BSD. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Although many companies comply because they are concerned about what might happen if they don't. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| MinceR | but then we wouldn't get the downsides of GPL | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one case where Matthew Garrett did enforce his rights. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Against the MPAA, which was illegally distributing Xubuntu. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There are no downsiders if one ignores the licence. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | downsides* | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They rigged it up into spyware that universities were supposed to install so the MPAA could monitor their network. | Jun 25 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | He got them to take it down. | Jun 25 22:12 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that would only be true if one was alone in the universe | Jun 25 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: upsides and downsides exist only if the licensing is relevant | Jun 25 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | and if it is, then GPL has many upsides | Jun 25 22:14 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: different people and organizations have different views on whether licensing is relevant | Jun 25 22:14 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Ironically, Tom Callaway complains about Google..... | Jun 25 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | Specifically that they fork a bunch of libraries and then include a changes.chromium file. | Jun 25 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | He said "It's better than nothing.". At the same time, Red Hat releases source RPMs of their Linux kernel without any explanation of what they've done. | Jun 25 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Says "Don't worry about it. You don't need to know. Just compile it." | Jun 25 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody knows the recipe for the RHEL kernel. | Jun 25 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | The entire source code is available, but it would take forever to figure out what patches were applied to it. | Jun 25 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | This is another example of why the GPL is not sufficient. | Jun 25 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | It should have required not just the source, but the patches broken out. | Jun 25 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | The GPL 3 doesn't even correct this. | Jun 25 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | So the RHEL kernel is a proprietary secret. | Jun 25 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Even with the GPL fully complied with. | Jun 25 22:39 |
| MinceR | ratcrap, masters of working around the GPL | Jun 25 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is one of the top contributors to the kernel Linux upstream. | Jun 25 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | But no upstream kernel gives you exactly what RHEL does. | Jun 25 22:40 |
| MinceR | like m$? | Jun 25 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Microsoft was for like one or two releases because the Hyper-V code was a massive commit and then it was so shitty that it took thousands of patches to get it promoted out of Staging. | Jun 25 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | So that was a fluke, and it's something that will only ever benefit Microsoft running Linux under Hyper-V on Windows. | Jun 25 22:41 |
| MinceR | yet i keep hearing how great contributors they are | Jun 25 22:42 |
| MinceR | even though i've seen their code and it's even shittier than red hat's | Jun 25 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the Windows 10 source leaked the other day. | Jun 25 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=EXT4-Linux-4.13-Work | Jun 25 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXT4 Is Working On A "Large Directory" Option, Parallel Discards - Phoronix | Jun 25 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | At what point should this be forked off into an Ext5? | Jun 25 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | The work on getting discard performance improved is probably the most important of the new features, and that SHOULD go into Ext4. | Jun 25 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | The discard performance on Ext4 is so horrible right now that distributions ship it off by default and you have to run a fstrim manually (or as a cron job) every so often. | Jun 25 22:47 |
| MinceR | i've seen some of the hype-V code | Jun 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe if parallel discard lands in 4.13, I can change my mount option to add discard. | Jun 25 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | No way I'm mounting it like that now. | Jun 25 22:48 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there is a fault in ext file systems base structure relating to time being no 64 bit time with ext3 it was extended to 48 bit time. 48bit time is the limit of ext file system structures. | Jun 25 22:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so at time point ext file system has to be replaced with something with a different structure. | Jun 25 22:56 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/wn6UyDm | Jun 25 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 25 22:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 25 23:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 25 23:08 |
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| oiaohm | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HT-Bug-KBL095 that is a nasty bug. | Jun 25 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2cm0 ] | Jun 25 23:11 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: discussed here earlier | Jun 25 23:16 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: even that is being fixed with microcode shows that the isolation between hyperthreads is software not hardware. | Jun 25 23:21 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so really nasty bug. | Jun 25 23:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/MsOfjw8Eb3 #howto #unix...' | Jun 25 23:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879103682591305728 | Jun 25 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #UltimateEdition 5.5 Linux Distro Out Now Based on | Jun 25 23:29 |
| cubexyz | http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/calling-earth-a-loser-trump-vows-to-make-better-deal-with-new-planet | Jun 25 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) | Jun 25 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | Calling Earth a “Loser,” Trump Vows to Make Better Deal with New Planet | The New Yorker | Jun 25 23:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8LV8JMyPjW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 23:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ultimate Edition 5.5 Linux Distro Out Now Based on Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) | Tux Machines | Jun 25 23:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#UltimateEdition 5.5 Linux Distro Out Now Based on...' | Jun 25 23:29 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, favours FOSS | Jun 25 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | I made a long post about copyrights on Facebook. | Jun 25 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | I ended it with... | Jun 25 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | "It's pretty funny. They put out movies that are such crap, like the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie, which got 29% on Rotten Tomatoes, and then they blame people who got a CAM copy on BitTorrent for the revenue woes caused by their shitty box office bomb." | Jun 25 23:37 |
| cubexyz | I prefer to say five eyes = opabinia :) | Jun 25 23:39 |
| MinceR | opabinia? | Jun 25 23:39 |
| cubexyz | extinct arthropod from around 450 million years ago | Jun 25 23:40 |
| cubexyz | I guess "Cambrian Stage 3" is the term these days | Jun 25 23:40 |
| MinceR | oh, i didn't know it had 5 eyes | Jun 25 23:40 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Opabinia_BW2.jpg | Jun 25 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Opabinia BW2.jpg - Wikipedia | Jun 25 23:40 | |
| MinceR | didn't even recall the name | Jun 25 23:40 |
| MinceR | even though i looked at it recently | Jun 25 23:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I am trying to remember the movie that was mostly watched because it was so bad. | Jun 25 23:41 |
| MinceR | Ed Wood movies? | Jun 25 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Plan 9 | Jun 25 23:42 |
| MinceR | ...being one of them :> | Jun 25 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that was the name of an academic research successor to UNIX from Bell Labs. | Jun 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Plan 9 from Bell Labs | Jun 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Then there was the port of the Plan 9 userspace to POSIX systems. | Jun 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | They called it Plan 9 from Userspace. :) | Jun 25 23:43 |
| cubexyz | rather deadish these days I'm afraid | Jun 25 23:43 |
| MinceR | the movie was Plan 9 from Outer Space, though | Jun 25 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. | Jun 25 23:43 |
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| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Some of Plan 9's ideas were later added to Linux. | Jun 25 23:44 |
| cubexyz | inferno was the successor | Jun 25 23:44 |
| oiaohm | http://www.slashfilm.com/the-worst-reviewed-highest-grossing-movie-of-all-time reviews and movie success does not line up. | Jun 25 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.slashfilm.com | The Worst Reviewed Highest Grossing Movies Of All-Time – /Film [ http://ur1.ca/r2cvf ] | Jun 25 23:44 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: maybe the issue is not enough hate. | Jun 25 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs#Impact | Jun 25 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Plan 9 from Bell Labs - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/r2cvl ] | Jun 25 23:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Eric S. Raymond said of Plan 9, "[I]t looks like Plan 9 failed simply because it fell short of being a compelling enough improvement on Unix to displace its ancestor. Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good | Jun 25 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | enough." | Jun 25 23:45 |
| cubexyz | yeah there was Glendix and xv6 | Jun 25 23:46 |
| cubexyz | xv6 crashed though | Jun 25 23:46 |
| MinceR | i also didn't find plan9's windowing system compelling enough | Jun 25 23:46 |
| cubexyz | Glendix looks interesting though | Jun 25 23:46 |
| cubexyz | http://www.glendix.org/ | Jun 25 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.glendix.org | Glendix: Bringing the beauty of Plan 9 to Linux | Jun 25 23:46 | |
| cubexyz | the thing is, if you stick with plan 9 the userspace is quite old | Jun 25 23:47 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 25 23:47 |
| cubexyz | you probably wouldn't like browsing the web with abaco | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/SecurityNews6/status/879107964568600576 | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @SecurityNews6 #WannaCry | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 23:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 23:48 | |
| MinceR | can it not run GNU stuff beside the plan9 stuff? | Jun 25 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879109062482436096 | Jun 25 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New Stable Kernels and Upcoming #Kernel Features | Jun 25 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VUtRAG02qP (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #gpl | Jun 25 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #amdgpu #ext4 #xpad | Jun 25 23:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Stable Kernels and Upcoming Kernel Features | Tux Machines | Jun 25 23:49 | |
| cubexyz | I would think so, but I've never tried Glendix | Jun 25 23:49 |
| cubexyz | probably easy enough to port it | Jun 25 23:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Glendix has not been touched in 8 years. | Jun 25 23:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.inferno-os.info/inferno/ its mostly inferno allowing its applications to run on top of other OSs. | Jun 25 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inferno-os.info | Inferno | Jun 25 23:52 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/23/bofh_2017_episode_8/ | Jun 25 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | BOFH: Putting the commitment into committee • The Register | Jun 25 23:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New Stable Kernels and Upcoming #Kernel Features ...' | Jun 25 23:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879110705043185664 | Jun 25 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older | Jun 25 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Articles | Jun 25 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DXRnnWs7Sb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 25 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 23:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Design Tools, Nageru, Obnam, VP9, and Older Articles | Tux Machines | Jun 25 23:56 | |
| DaemonFC | From one of my Facebook posts: | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | "What does Microsoft have? A PC industry that's in deep decline and an operating system with so much spyware (Windows 10) that it literally sends every one of your keystrokes to Microsoft, and which forces broken upgrades on you whether you want them or not, and decides to reboot your computer whenever it wants (frequently). | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | A Windows PC market where OEMs often sandbag their own computers with 35+ individual pieces of bloatware that the user must figure out how to get rid of. | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | A Windows PC market where Microsoft so wants to hang on to users that become disgusted with their product that it literally pays sleazy OEMs like Lenovo to make Linux installations impossible. | Jun 25 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 is so rotten that there's a case against Microsoft making its way through a federal court in Chicago that might gain class action status." | Jun 25 23:56 |
| cubexyz | I didn't like how the terminal worked in plan 9 | Jun 25 23:56 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think mIcrosoft's time is over | Jun 25 23:57 |
| MinceR | it's either that or the IT industry's time is over | Jun 25 23:57 |
| cubexyz | people want off the M$ train | Jun 25 23:57 |
| MinceR | m$ and their buddies will kill the whole thing if we don't kill them first | Jun 25 23:58 |
| cubexyz | the thing is, people don't really know enough about their hardware | Jun 26 00:00 |
| MinceR | and m$, crApple and intel are willing to do whatever it takes to make it stay that way, too | Jun 26 00:00 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older...' | Jun 26 00:01 | |
| cubexyz | btw windows 7 won't run on a chromebook | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879112290116808706 | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Keylogger (EEE) | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/d5sPvvHUen (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee #suse #gnu #linux | Jun 26 00:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 00:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a Keylogger (EEE) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 00:01 | |
| cubexyz | something to do with the firmware | Jun 26 00:01 |
| cubexyz | not that I'm worried about that, just why exactly it didn't work might be interesting | Jun 26 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Me (part of a Reddit post): "I don't even consider Debian. The people making their policies are braindead. They ship without firmware and then stand there like the retarded stepchild when computers malfunction because of it. There shouldn't be a struggle to set up a modern operating system." | Jun 26 00:03 |
| cubexyz | really I blame intel for that, not debian | Jun 26 00:03 |
| cubexyz | too much funny stuff going on these days | Jun 26 00:03 |
| cubexyz | there was some warning not that long ago about the newest intel and AMD CPUs only working on windows 10 | Jun 26 00:05 |
| cubexyz | talk about lock-in | Jun 26 00:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older...' | Jun 26 00:06 | |
| cubexyz | but maybe it was just some unknowledgeable journalist | Jun 26 00:06 |
| cubexyz | there's no question microsoft is trying to get everyone on win10 | Jun 26 00:07 |
| cubexyz | like kaby lake is win10 only | Jun 26 00:08 |
| cubexyz | looks like linux is fine on kaby lake though | Jun 26 00:08 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: debian policy on firmware is not 100 brain dead. How to fix the firmware problem properly is the bigger issue. Remember some of the hardware fails we have with Linux is bit of hardware in laptop was dud so oem had custom firmware made and that was only ever in the windows driver. | Jun 26 00:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course loading a generic firmware into a device needing a custom equals miss behavour. | Jun 26 00:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: we really do need the device maker to provide a tested firmware set for a system. | Jun 26 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, Microsoft says "Skylake requires Windows 10". | Jun 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Funny, because I'm not running Windows anything right now. | Jun 26 00:12 |
| oiaohm | Skylake to half behave requires 4.10 Linux kernel or newer. | Jun 26 00:13 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of changes in skylake that break OS kernel. Now that microcode one was not helping. | Jun 26 00:14 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: DaemonFC https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.html note what is in the skylake manual and it in the kabylake as well. If cpu does not use low power states is life span will be shortened. | Jun 26 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Skylake's power management under Linux is dreadful and you shouldn't buy one until it's fixed | Jun 26 00:18 | |
| oiaohm | Caution: Long term reliability cannot be assured unless all the Low-Power Idle States are enabled. << This is not want you want to find in a CPU manual. | Jun 26 00:19 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With...' | Jun 26 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879117199558021121 | Jun 26 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older | Jun 26 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Articles | Jun 26 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/DXRnnWs7Sb (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 26 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 00:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Design Tools, Nageru, Obnam, VP9, and Older Articles | Tux Machines | Jun 26 00:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief favourited 'Software: Design Tools, #Nageru, #Obnam, #VP9, and Older...' | Jun 26 00:23 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Mine uses all the way up to pc8. | Jun 26 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | His post was about Linux 4.5. | Jun 26 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm using 4.11. | Jun 26 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | It probably was broken as hell back then. | Jun 26 00:25 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: 4.10 is when the power management comes in. 4.5 running the Linux kernel was progressively killing the chip. | Jun 26 00:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: its also why running old versions of windows on the newer chips is strictly out. | Jun 26 00:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course other than in a virtual machine where the host is running the power management. | Jun 26 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959502#post959502 | Jun 26 00:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 26 00:48 | |
| DaemonFC | They ship without firmware and then stand there like the retarded stepchild when computers malfunction because of it. You think you're not running "non-free microcode" because you don't have the Debian package installed? WRONG! You're just running an old version with bugs as loaded by your BIOS! Debian's policies mean that unless the user configures their computer the way Debian should have done it, then this FIXED bug could be provoked and | Jun 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | result in a disaster complete with data loss. | Jun 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | Review of Debian 9: Broken Broken Broken Stupid Stupid Stupid. Full Stop. | Jun 26 00:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879117897666371584 | Jun 26 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a | Jun 26 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Keylogger (EEE) | Jun 26 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/d5sPvvHUen (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #eee #suse #gnu #linux | Jun 26 00:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 00:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making GNU/Linux Run Poorly, Like an 'App', With a Keylogger (EEE) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 00:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | I know that Debian supports a lot of architectures that aren't very important in the grand scheme of things (I mean, up until recently, if you wanted to dust off your PowerPC Mac from when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and have Debian stop to fix issues with it as if it was as important as x86, you found your distro), but probably upwards of 90% use it on x86, and most distributions don't even support more than x86 and maybe a few arm devices. | Jun 26 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has even de-prioritized 32-bit x86 to the point where problems that only affect that version don't get to block a release. | Jun 26 01:03 |
| cubexyz | I want 32-bit support | Jun 26 01:07 |
| cubexyz | I got a ton of 32-bit computers | Jun 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Thank goodness we have Debian and Ubuntu so all of the stupid can be safely tucked away in two distros. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the evil too (Ubuntu). | Jun 26 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting harder to support x86-32 because the hardware is just so old. | Jun 26 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially the graphics cards from that era. | Jun 26 01:08 |
| cubexyz | Ubuntu is not ideal, but it's still better than win10 | Jun 26 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | We're running out of maintainers who have access to said hardware. | Jun 26 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hard time figuring out if it works in some cases. | Jun 26 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Hardware support gradually degrades until you pull the plug. | Jun 26 01:09 |
| cubexyz | there should be 32-bit testing at least | Jun 26 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | You *can* install Fedora as 32-bit, but it's not exactly top priority if you run into trouble. | Jun 26 01:10 |
| cubexyz | and it's an open question how long a semiconductor-based computers can last | Jun 26 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | For Fedora it makes little sense to worry about 32-bit because Red Hat dropped it. | Jun 26 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | If 32-bit x86 really matters to you, well (1) the clock is ticking and (2) sooner or later you're going to have to pick the latest long term distro release that supported it and never upgrade again. | Jun 26 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I think there will maybe be one more Ubuntu LTS that supports it, but don't plan on it. | Jun 26 01:11 |
| cubexyz | I already do my own upgrades and backports | Jun 26 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | By 2020 (two LTS releases out) 32-bit x86 will make no sense at all. | Jun 26 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | They had Fedora Legacy for a while. | Jun 26 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | It ended because they were supporting too many releases at once and most people want the latest Fedora release anyway. | Jun 26 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | I think at the time they ended it, they were supporting like 5 Fedora releases and three old versions of Red Hat Linux as well. | Jun 26 01:13 |
| cubexyz | well, there's still people running Unix on PDP-11/45 (I admit that's pretty hard-core) | Jun 26 01:14 |
| cubexyz | these are very modular and repairable systems | Jun 26 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | A more sensible approach would have been to declare like every third Fedora release to be a Fedora Legacy branch, but even that wouldn't really work, because eventually people would need to upgrade and you can't skip versions like that with direct upgrades. | Jun 26 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Also, with CentOS and Scientific Linux already providing essentially a long term stable Fedora..... | Jun 26 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | RHEL+Clones don't package anything near as much software as Fedora does. You don't even get the complete Gnome software collection. | Jun 26 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | But most of the rest is provided by repos like EPEL and RPM Fusion. | Jun 26 01:16 |
| cubexyz | TUHS does the historical maintainance on Unix | Jun 26 01:16 |
| cubexyz | and it's fairly active | Jun 26 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | You won't get official support for EPEL from RHEL/CentOS/Scientific Linux, but the packages are made to fit in on those systems. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hardly ever go more than five years without buying a new system. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I might because improvements are slowing down. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| cubexyz | I am worried about my CRTs | Jun 26 01:20 |
| cubexyz | I'm not comfortable working on them and they are starting to fail | Jun 26 01:20 |
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| cubexyz | the amiga 1080 was made in nov. 1985 | Jun 26 01:21 |
| cubexyz | I have a special watch-list for amiga monitors I'm looking for | Jun 26 01:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-monitors.txt | Jun 26 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to test out higan 103's Sega Genesis emulation later. | Jun 26 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | The release notes say it's quite usable, even though it's not the best emulator for those systems yet. | Jun 26 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to have everything under one roof, and his SNES emulation is excellent. | Jun 26 01:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I wouldn't mind getting a monitor that works for a sega genesis | Jun 26 01:30 |
| cubexyz | you can see the problem | Jun 26 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I think so. | Jun 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | What are you using for IRC? Emacs? | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | no, I'm using xchat on openbsd | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | I can't stand emacs :) | Jun 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's that at least. | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | also that's why I never bought a vax.... because of monitor availability | Jun 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski tried making it better with Xemacs, but Stallman wouldn't merge the improvements, or had the GNU version reimplement them. | Jun 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | At this point, not only s Xemacs dead, but it's probably impossible to merge even if someone wanted to. | Jun 26 01:33 |
| cubexyz | emacs or (xemacs) used the athena widget set | Jun 26 01:34 |
| cubexyz | so I do have it, but almost never use it | Jun 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 26 01:35 |
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| cubexyz | i'm more of a vi-man | Jun 26 01:35 |
| cubexyz | guess I'm not a true stallmanite :) | Jun 26 01:36 |
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| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/emacs-vs-vi.png | Jun 26 02:06 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/feeble-emacs-user.png | Jun 26 02:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, one more | Jun 26 02:20 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/24/self-driving-cars-mcity-augmented-reality/ Hmm self drive cars talking to each other I see horrible hacking possibles. | Jun 26 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Self-driving cars are safer when they talk to each other | Jun 26 05:23 | |
| oiaohm | There is a very good reason for self drive cars to be able to operate stand alone. | Jun 26 05:24 |
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| MinceR | 26 020757 < DaemonFC> Thank goodness we have Debian and Ubuntu so all of the stupid can be safely tucked away in two distros. | Jun 26 06:44 |
| MinceR | too bad all the ratcrap distros also get all the stupid | Jun 26 06:44 |
| MinceR | and then the derivatives inherit them | Jun 26 06:44 |
| cubexyz | don't complain... it was worse in the past | Jun 26 06:44 |
| cubexyz | Xenix? Venix? You would have hated those | Jun 26 06:45 |
| cubexyz | Xenix didn't even come with a compiler unless you paid $1k extra | Jun 26 06:45 |
| MinceR | no, it wasn't so self-destructive in the past | Jun 26 06:46 |
| cubexyz | now hardware, firmware, you have a valid complaint there | Jun 26 06:46 |
| cubexyz | baked in intel me | Jun 26 06:47 |
| MinceR | or amd psp | Jun 26 06:47 |
| cubexyz | I don't even think libreboot supports the latest AMD hardware | Jun 26 06:48 |
| cubexyz | yes, the psp | Jun 26 06:48 |
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| cubexyz | if the AMD PSP firmware is not present, the system is inoperable | Jun 26 06:49 |
| cubexyz | I hear it's an autonomous computer all on it's own | Jun 26 06:51 |
| cubexyz | there is a book though | Jun 26 06:52 |
| cubexyz | "Platform Embedded Security Technology Revealed" | Jun 26 06:52 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/technology-revealed.pdf | Jun 26 06:54 |
| cubexyz | just in case it disappears | Jun 26 06:54 |
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| MinceR | got it, thanks | Jun 26 06:58 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/kVAJnWi.gifv | Jun 26 07:26 |
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| DaemonFC | I found some really useful software called uBlock Protector. | Jun 26 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's like Anti-Adblock Killer Reek, but that was abandoned in November. | Jun 26 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | This one is under the GPL 3 and includes some new code to defeat new anti-adblock methods. | Jun 26 07:43 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: PSP and ME are attempting to deal with a real set of problem. But dealing with it closed source I really don't see that as helping us long term. | Jun 26 08:02 |
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| cubexyz | well I don't think I've ever experienced a BIOS attack | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | but if I _did_ I know what to do | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | I don't need baked in secret stuff on my motherboard | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | even if a BIOS attack bricked my computer, you know what? | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | I just take the chip out of the socket and reprogram it | Jun 26 10:34 |
| cubexyz | so no baked in secret stuff please | Jun 26 10:34 |
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| cubexyz | enough of big brother tactics | Jun 26 10:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-07/Heasman/Presentation/bh-usa-07-heasman.pdf good list of the straight forward bios attacks. | Jun 26 10:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue most people make the mistake with is thinking that a bios infection is only hidden in the motherboard bios chip. | Jun 26 10:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: can be hidden in like in video card flash that the bios reads. | Jun 26 10:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I agree I don't want secret stuff hidden in motherboard. I also don't want flash firmwares on items being able to be recoded without my permissions either. | Jun 26 10:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform | Jun 26 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Unveils Open Source HCI Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879396777488781313 | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | processors have broken hyper-threading | Jun 26 18:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux reveals Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake processors have broken hyper-threading | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Devs Urge Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake Users to Disable HyperThreading | Jun 26 18:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879398053198925825 | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New user registration page gives permission | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | error. You might want to fix that. | Jun 26 18:56 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cosmology | Jun 26 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cosmology [ http://ur1.ca/r2old ] | Jun 26 18:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 19:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879399873069666305 | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE #CaaS Platform | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 (www.tuxmachines.org) another new | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buzzword. #gnu #linux #server #container | Jun 26 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE CaaS Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879400438201823233 | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile workstation https://t.co/jYBZqZjqLG | Jun 26 19:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 26 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu mobile workstation | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE #CaaS Platform https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 another new buzzword. #gnu...' | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/LpwWjww.gifv | Jun 26 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I found the sweet spot | Jun 26 19:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 19:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879402045673009152 | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #samsung #nokia #google | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #xiaomi #google #sony | Jun 26 19:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl #android #samsung #nokia #google #linux...' | Jun 26 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879403050678538242 | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mINqItpqEF (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto C Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock...' | Jun 26 19:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879404356877131776 | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | inexpensive https://t.co/IwUgeLUcgz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gentoo | Jun 26 19:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Flex 11 Chromebook review: Tough, durable and inexpensive | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and...' | Jun 26 19:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it...' | Jun 26 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879405524302823425 | Jun 26 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it needs to get | Jun 26 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines rid of bigots like yourself. | Jun 26 19:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump For the US to be...' | Jun 26 19:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 19:57 | |
| MinceR | https://68.media.tumblr.com/85479247b1874cc817f0300a492bbba1/tumblr_inline_os64mabKSD1uc2pje_1280.png | Jun 26 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879413406033424384 | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 20:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Motti, HOOK, Maia, Lyndow and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 20:02 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/TwoPaddocks/status/879233937070931968 | Jun 26 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wish I could tell you some of the things I know, but I don't want to get someone else in trouble. I think you'd fall out of your chair laughing. | Jun 26 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Legally, I'm not even supposed to know. | Jun 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump claims he wants the same thing for us. | Jun 26 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | That's what nationalism and economic fascism gets you. | Jun 26 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who sits down and looks at NAFTA should come to the conclusion that there are more upsides for the US than downsides, and if we go back to the table, there's no guarantee we'll get a better deal, and if we rip it up we'll spiral into an economic depression complete with inflation, millions of lost jobs, and empty shelves. | Jun 26 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | The North American trade bloc is so integrated after 25 years of NAFTA and even more with the former US-Canada deal, that there's no easy way to back out of it. | Jun 26 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't think that NAFTA has cost us jobs on balance. | Jun 26 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has changed the kind of jobs we have. | Jun 26 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | The US lost some manufacturing, but our financial institutions and agriculture took over in Mexico. | Jun 26 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | We basically strongarmed them the last time and Trump thinks we were the victims? | Jun 26 20:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879414403384397828 | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 20:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/apisanadora/status/879420897651826689 | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 18 open source translation tools to localize your project | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @apisanadora https://t.co/LIcbVJfJkD (opensource.com) #freesw | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-18 open source translation tools | Opensource.com | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y...' | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y | Jun 26 20:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes,...' | Jun 26 20:45 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does the NAFTA have anti-human rights effects as the more recent "trade agreement"s do? | Jun 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879425471133474816 | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fabric | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 20:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social fabric | Tux Machines | Jun 26 20:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it improved the overall standard of living in all countries, I think. | Jun 26 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | The "rising tide lifts all the boats" theory. | Jun 26 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | But some got a better deal from it than others. | Jun 26 20:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social...' | Jun 26 20:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, A good example is Walmart. | Jun 26 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | There are things in Walmart now that are cheaper than they were in 1991, even without adjusting for inflation. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the Singularity...' | Jun 26 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Like a box fan. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Some worker in Mexico got a job making box fans and he earns three times what he made before. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jun 26 20:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/879427120061194240 | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost fabric | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:03 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg178100.html | Jun 26 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas — Linux Stable Kernel Updates [ http://ur1.ca/r2qjf ] | Jun 26 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Linux 4.11.7 has this. | Jun 26 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/general-linux-open-source/959507-linux-4-12-rc7-released-final-might-come-in-one-week?p=959648#post959648 | Jun 26 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.12-rc7 Released: Final Might Come In One Week - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2qoq ] | Jun 26 21:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Me: I've been getting: | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-8000C-28.ucode failed with error -2 | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ever since I started using the Linux 4.11.5 kernel (iirc). Thank Intel for making references to firmware that they haven't released yet in a stable kernel series. | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, my wifi works, so oh well. Just more random error chatter from the kernel. I get plenty of that anyway on my Lenovo Yoga 900. It doesn't (appear to) harm anything. (But who knows?) | Jun 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | "Sing-In" http://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chrome-os-team-is-experimenting-with-refreshed-sign-in-lock-screens-516647.shtml | Jun 26 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google's Chrome OS Team Is Experimenting with Refreshed Sign-In/Lock Screens [ http://ur1.ca/r2qs4 ] | Jun 26 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TRS0211/status/879437447507193857 | Jun 26 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TRS0211: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn That chin (or lack of) is a threat in itself | Jun 26 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | Let's focus on the issue, not appearances. | Jun 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BeyondSimian/status/879438670675271681 | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BeyondSimian: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Crime has gone down | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | (brexit lunacy) | Jun 26 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/hardware-firmware-drivers | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free drivers, firmware, and hardware designs — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/r2qxz ] | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438472804782081 | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | maybe fewer cops are left to record it, or fewer people bother reporting it | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple put Imagination Technologies out of business, essentially, when it stopped buying their chipsets. | Jun 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I hear that | Jun 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | good riddance | Jun 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe we won't have to deal with Poulsbo-like shit from them again. | Jun 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | phoronix wrote about it last week | Jun 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | poulsbo was intel's choice to use a shitty gpu instead of their own, though | Jun 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | they could go to another shitty company instead | Jun 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | "We support Linux. Just look at our 32-bit only blob that works on Ubuntu 8.04!" | Jun 26 21:41 |
| MinceR | "just use the vesa driver" | Jun 26 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're up for sale. About the only asset they might have now are patents. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Probably Intel will buy them. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| MinceR | finally, intel can abuse customers with shitty gpus they own :> | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's cheap and it means that whoever gets them can't be sued by a patent troll later. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll just do another incestuous cross licensing agreement with AMD. | Jun 26 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | They'd prefer to have no competition, but if they have to have one, they'd prefer it to be AMD. | Jun 26 21:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438850048839680 | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:44 | |
| MinceR | and the governments let them get away with it | Jun 26 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Intel lets AMD live because their products generally aren't as good and they're not a major player anyway. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | AMD got bumped into the S&P 500 recently but it's one of the smaller components. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like #497 by weight. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | They have to heavily discount to compete with Intel on the low end. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440122047057920 | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:46 | |
| DaemonFC | AMD has released some major disasters, like Bulldozer. | Jun 26 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they're in the retail channels, they have to subsidize them to get them to sell, at a loss. | Jun 26 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440736088973312 | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441469219766272 | Jun 26 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-win-catching&num=1 | Jun 26 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon's Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Has Nearly Caught Up With Windows' Driver - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2r45 ] | Jun 26 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, amdgpu is missing Vulkan support. | Jun 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Even Intel is supporting Vulkan. | Jun 26 21:54 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 26 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 26 22:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I commented: Several Linux distributions package it, but it's not commonly supported. We already have several smallish desktop environments that have the same basic goal of being small, working well on old and bargain basement computers, using a small utility for each task and avoiding entanglements with systemd. I wonder what their objection with using LXQt was. If it was just the GPL/LGPL then making a whole new project seems pointless. | Jun 26 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ohhh, additional drivers for Intel's Bay FAIL platform. :) | Jun 26 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=911723 | Jun 26 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | kernel-4.12.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc27 | Build Info | koji [ http://ur1.ca/r2rjz ] | Jun 26 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it fixes the random lockups. | Jun 26 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441853807984640 | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451288404197376 | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 22:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451322118008832 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452601716101120 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452630879268866 | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cafbear favourited '#Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, #HyperThreading, and...' | Jun 26 22:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Was it not known for a long...' | Jun 26 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Was it not known for...' | Jun 26 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454939738714112 | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 22:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus/page7 | Jun 26 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2s0e ] | Jun 26 22:48 | |
| DaemonFC | I told John Bridgman that AMD is a giant trash fire. | Jun 26 22:48 |
| MinceR | so are intel and nvidia | Jun 26 22:53 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 22:53 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/solo | Jun 26 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Solo | Jun 26 22:55 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/u37HGeX.jpg | Jun 26 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454964460003329 | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 23:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879461354150789120 | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 23:08 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough favourited 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:08 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879462736345915392 | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 26 23:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the Linux Community, Librem Laptops, Chrome OS, and the Laptop Survey | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, #Librem...' | Jun 26 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879465064197222400 | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lRZPgl7iIP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Qualys, NIST, Internet of Things, Microsoft's Broken Updates and Honeypots | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from DNC ashes' | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from...' | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of Things,...' | Jun 26 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879468528000270337 | Jun 26 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Jun 26 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 26 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879468665237905413 | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 23:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lumina 1.3.0 Released https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs #bsd #unix...' | Jun 26 23:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange The revolution will be not televised by...' | Jun 26 23:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange The revolution will be not...' | Jun 26 23:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879469494099472385 | Jun 26 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 no, due to spam registrations we had to disable | Jun 26 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it. Do you want me to set up an account for you? -RS | Jun 26 23:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879470326459006976 | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stable New Kernels and More | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w4P7zbCLl6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel | Jun 26 23:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, Stable New Kernels and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 23:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 23:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879471560016498689 | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Coreboot...) | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zo0Yjtkg4u (www.tuxmachines.org) #hardware | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #radeonSI #ati | Jun 26 23:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Graphics and Processors (for Linux, LLVM, Coreboot...) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 23:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879472778914693120 | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For The #Linux #Kernel | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/24y1r1Z0EW (www.tuxmachines.org) #china | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gpl | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 23:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For...' | Jun 26 23:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879473940497825792 | Jun 27 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL | Jun 27 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | /#Vulkan #Benchmarks,# Freedreno Development and #Mesa | Jun 27 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JWvmAcfmYd (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 27 00:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, OpenGL/Vulkan Benchmarks, Freedreno Development and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL /#Vulkan...' | Jun 27 00:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879475655372570625 | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 27 00:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and Add More Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879476167102877697 | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qKKiy6A8zs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 27 00:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879477944502169600 | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i5qyJ2YM4i (www.tuxmachines.org) it's mostly | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux (de facto platform in servers now) | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 27 00:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879479563608354816 | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 27 00:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479589453647872 | Jun 27 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 27 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 27 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lRZPgl7iIP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 27 00:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Qualys, NIST, Internet of Things, Microsoft's Broken Updates and Honeypots | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479675784974336 | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 27 00:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the Linux Community, Librem Laptops, Chrome OS, and the Laptop Survey | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/879479900251594752 | Jun 27 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps #SparkyLinux Users Backup | Jun 27 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Their Secret Files https://t.co/edjDQb5Vjd | Jun 27 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #privacy is not a crime. #gnu | Jun 27 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 27 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps SparkyLinux Users Backup Their Secret Files | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879480124458110981 | Jun 27 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian | Jun 27 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Jun 27 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qKKiy6A8zs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 27 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian | Jun 27 00:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879481733405700097 | Jun 27 00:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Jun 27 00:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/i5qyJ2YM4i (www.tuxmachines.org) it's mostly | Jun 27 00:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux (de facto platform in servers now) | Jun 27 00:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory...' | Jun 27 00:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory...' | Jun 27 00:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on...' | Jun 27 00:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879482841138122752 | Jun 27 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Programming: #LLVM /#Clang, anytime, and #GoLang | Jun 27 00:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eUSSaCtpaI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 00:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: LLVM/Clang, anytime, and Go | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cool_golang retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Programming: #LLVM /#Clang, anytime, and #GoLang ...' | Jun 27 00:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879483720712978432 | Jun 27 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS: FOSS in #Mappano, Open Network Automation Platform | Jun 27 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (ONAP), #Blender in Class, #Kodi Jobs, #Innersource | Jun 27 00:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ScBoYr5ZiO (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 00:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS: FOSS in Mappano, Open Network Automation Platform (ONAP), Blender in Class, Kodi Jobs, Innersource | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879484030051340289 | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen and More Android Leftovers | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/erhQPuTOu2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizen | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tizenos #gnu #linux #android #samsung #google | Jun 27 00:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen and More Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879484676385239040 | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Newly-Built Software for #Slackware | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RsQvOczcx9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 27 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gcc #libreoffice #plasma #kde | Jun 27 00:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Newly-Built Software for Slackware | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @codeCrypto favourited 'A Linux laptop with security at its core:...' | Jun 27 00:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/codeCrypto/status/879484762552848384 | Jun 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by A Linux laptop with security at its core: #Purism 's | Jun 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @codeCrypto #Librem PCs now widely available https://t.co/Pbezx7qFEJ | Jun 27 00:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 27 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | 14 mins · | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | Dr. Evil: Mr. President, after I destroy Washington D.C. I will destroy another major city every hour on the hour. That is, unless, of course, you pay me....one hundred... billion dollars. | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: [bursts with laughter] Dr. Evil, this is 1969! That amount of money doesn't even exist. | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | [laughing] | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: That's like saying, [with changed voice] | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: "I want a kajillion bajillion dollars." | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/27/0037241/zillow-threatens-to-sue-blogger-for-using-its-photos-for-parody | Jun 27 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Zillow Threatens To Sue Blogger For Using Its Photos For Parody - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r2w6j ] | Jun 27 03:01 | |
| DaemonFC | https://web.archive.org/web/20170606043317/http://www.mcmansionhell.com/post/161329177461/50-states-of-mcmansion-hell-harford-county | Jun 27 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 50 States of McMansion Hell: Harford County,... | McMansion Hell [ http://ur1.ca/r2wa0 ] | Jun 27 03:07 | |
| DaemonFC | There's the post that Zillow got removed. | Jun 27 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j0cpb/lenovo_releases_new_bios_for_ideapad_710s_plus/ | Jun 27 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Releases New Bios for IdeaPad 710s Plus and Plus Touch : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r2wtf ] | Jun 27 03:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has released new BIOS firmware for the 710S Plus and 710S Plus Touch that allows Linux installs. | Jun 27 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | They don't mention Linux, but they added an option to disable "RAID" which makes the SSD available to all operating systems. A forums user said he was able to install Debian. | Jun 27 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 27 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 27 04:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks sort of amateurish at the moment. They posted an article on OMG Ubuntu! and I nearly choked when someone said "Designed by Stevie Wonder.". I took another look at it. Late 90s Gnome (before there was a HIG) came to mind. | Jun 27 04:02 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1465250 | Jun 27 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1465250 – SELinux is preventing gsd-xsettings from 'setattr' accesses on the directory /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. [ http://ur1.ca/r2xdz ] | Jun 27 04:45 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that Lenovo one is also part one of the intel raid options not being supported by Linux | Jun 27 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, And it never will be as long as Linux upstream keeps rejecting the driver. | Jun 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Intel did give them one. They decided not to upstream it. | Jun 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like the device makers are giving up and letting people turn off the RAID mode. | Jun 27 05:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Nice. Someone forked the old Faenza icons and continued it as Obsidian. | Jun 27 05:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879564567432613889 | Jun 27 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yes, please. I'll DM you the email ☺️ | Jun 27 05:58 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you know of any lists of firmware attacks? e.g. routers, video cards, motherboards etc | Jun 27 05:59 |
| cubexyz | I guess even hard drive firmware could possibly be attacked | Jun 27 06:00 |
| cubexyz | all sorts of rumours about killing a CRT with the wrong refresh rate | Jun 27 06:06 |
| cubexyz | no idea if that's possible or not | Jun 27 06:06 |
| cubexyz | actually I'd be more worried about heat damage than a GPU "virus" | Jun 27 06:09 |
| cubexyz | there was the cookie monster on IBM mainframes... | Jun 27 06:10 |
| cubexyz | locked up the machine until the operator typed "cookie" | Jun 27 06:10 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1465274 | Jun 27 06:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I don't know of a list other than my personal collection. | Jun 27 06:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/make-your-own-bad-usb-0165419/ the reality is if it has a writeable flash that alters the device function you have to allow on some attacker attempting it at some point. | Jun 27 06:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there are examples of harddrive firmware being modified for a mixture of evil reasons. | Jun 27 06:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: nice gnome bug that one. | Jun 27 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://webkit.org/blog/3476/content-blockers-first-look/ | Jun 27 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, What do you suppose is going on? | Jun 27 07:00 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do you mean by all the content blocker support stuff? If so when you get in mobile having extra crap coming in is a real issue for networks. | Jun 27 07:03 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: also with the fact google has said they are going to make it a default feature of their browser. | Jun 27 07:04 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I don't know where this will leave sites that have built their operational model around third party advertising. | Jun 27 07:04 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw | Jun 27 07:06 |
| cubexyz | I don't see any way of altering the firmware remotely | Jun 27 07:15 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/X2cj6 | Jun 27 07:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of it as a privilege exploit. If you can embedded into the hardware disinfection could be a lot harder. Like a harddrive firmware infected clean install and breach code magically comes back. | Jun 27 07:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its also why I don't have a big issue with firmware files instead of firmware on device. Someways firmware files are able to be audited so devices without flash can be safer. | Jun 27 07:22 |
| cubexyz | why don't manufacturers password protect write access to firmware? | Jun 27 07:24 |
| MinceR | that sounds like work | Jun 27 07:24 |
| MinceR | adding firmware write protect switches also sound like work, also the switches would be extra cost | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | just like adding a memory card slot to a mainboard to provide for easily replaceable readonly boot code would be extra cost | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | so instead we have these half-assed hacks that don't work properly | Jun 27 07:25 |
| MinceR | got to love "modern" IT | Jun 27 07:26 |
| MinceR | (or they could use a jumper instead of a switch...) | Jun 27 07:26 |
| cubexyz | they did | Jun 27 07:27 |
| cubexyz | in some cases | Jun 27 07:27 |
| cubexyz | BIOS_WP option | Jun 27 07:27 |
| cubexyz | only problem is most motherboards don't have it | Jun 27 07:27 |
| MinceR | in software? | Jun 27 07:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we are seeing signed firmwares in more cases now but you still have a lot of hardware with no protection. | Jun 27 07:28 |
| cubexyz | no, an actual jumper | Jun 27 07:28 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 07:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel boot guard is one of the attempts to deal with this problem. | Jun 27 07:28 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bios-wp-option.txt | Jun 27 07:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it is a double sided sword. | Jun 27 07:28 |
| MinceR | seems to me that preventing the owner from replacing firmware was more important than actual security | Jun 27 07:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its like a half fix. | Jun 27 07:29 |
| cubexyz | now a jumper for video card firmware, I don't know if anyone ever did that | Jun 27 07:29 |
| cubexyz | the odd thing is all the motherboards that had BIOS_WP used P4 CPU | Jun 27 07:30 |
| oiaohm | Block attacker from replacing firmware also block owner from replacing firmware when it defective. So half fix. | Jun 27 07:30 |
| oiaohm | We need proper fixes to the firmware nightmare attack problems. | Jun 27 07:30 |
| cubexyz | BIOS attacks are pretty rare though | Jun 27 07:31 |
| MinceR | perhaps that's when they realized they needed to protect the firmware from writing, but the half-assed signature-based non-solutions weren't available yet | Jun 27 07:31 |
| cubexyz | but if I decide to experiment with coreboot, that's my perogative | Jun 27 07:31 |
| MinceR | so you'd think | Jun 27 07:32 |
| oiaohm | The first network spreading multi firmware infecting worm I know of was 1994. | Jun 27 07:32 |
| MinceR | but the megacorporate government has other ideas | Jun 27 07:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes the bios write protect switch appeared after that for a while. | Jun 27 07:32 |
| MinceR | s/gov/world gov/ | Jun 27 07:32 |
| cubexyz | but then vanished... I can't recall seeing any modern motherboard with a jumper for that | Jun 27 07:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, Systemd/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux. GNU is not a modern userland unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Linux system that needs to be replaced by a shitty nonfunctional init system, broken logging system, and half-assed vital system components comprising a fully broken OS as defined | Jun 27 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | by Lennart Poettering. | Jun 27 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | Many computer users run a version of the Systemd system every day, without wanting it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Systemd/Linux which is widely used today often still contains some working GNU components, and many of its users are not aware that they need to be replaced by the Systemd system, developed by Lennart Poettering. | Jun 27 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | There really is a GNU/Linux, and some people are using it, but these people need to be forced to stop. Systemd is the light: the program in the system that owns the machine's resources and decides what other programs you can run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of Systemd. Linux should always be used in combination with the Systemd operating system: the whole | Jun 27 07:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I do have a board from 2012 that has it but they have got rare and it a server class board. | Jun 27 07:33 |
| DaemonFC | system is basically Systemd with Linux graciously hosted, or Systemd/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of Systemd/Linux! | Jun 27 07:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 27 07:33 |
| cubexyz | not really | Jun 27 07:34 |
| MinceR | at least until they assassinate Linus and rename it to systemd-kerneld | Jun 27 07:34 |
| cubexyz | slack, gentoo, probably a bunch of other ones don't use systemd | Jun 27 07:34 |
| MinceR | too few | Jun 27 07:34 |
| oiaohm | Really it the same problem we had in the time sysvinit was dominate | Jun 27 07:34 |
| cubexyz | and if you really wanted to be hard-core there's LFS without systemd | Jun 27 07:34 |
| oiaohm | Lack of init system diversity is not a new problem. | Jun 27 07:34 |
| MinceR | and the systemd shill is at it again, with the lies | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | trying to force through the lie that systemd is "just an init system" | Jun 27 07:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not a lie you can go through distrowatch lists of packages across different time frames. | Jun 27 07:35 |
| MinceR | there are other init systems, but your beloved NSA backdoor is not one of them | Jun 27 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879564871536443392 | Jun 27 07:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines yes, please.Where should I send my email? | Jun 27 07:36 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: if you do that you will notice lack of diversity is not a new thing. | Jun 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: have you considered a career in politics? | Jun 27 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't see any reason why logs are kept in a binary database. | Jun 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: tell that to the redhat shill over here | Jun 27 07:36 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't that mean that if one part of the database is corrupted, you can lose all of your logs? | Jun 27 07:36 |
| cubexyz | found one more... | Jun 27 07:36 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: that's the whole point | Jun 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | also bloating the log up with builtin core dumps | Jun 27 07:37 |
| cubexyz | MSI 915GLM4-F | Jun 27 07:37 |
| cubexyz | any bets on it being a P4 board? :) | Jun 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | so you get to delete logs if you want space | Jun 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | or buy more storage | Jun 27 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | logrotate put them in their own archives each day and then eventually got rid of them when there were more than you wanted. | Jun 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | iirc journald's binary garbage can't even be properly rotated | Jun 27 07:37 |
| MinceR | though maybe someone hacked something up already | Jun 27 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, For a while, Fedora was running systemd-syslogd AND syslog at the same time. | Jun 27 07:38 |
| cubexyz | yup, another P4 one | Jun 27 07:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 27 07:38 |
| MinceR | that thing when even other redhat drones don't trust redhat's crap | Jun 27 07:38 |
| oiaohm | The idea of journald is based of solaris binary logging that that damage will be detectable. | Jun 27 07:39 |
| MinceR | damage was already detectable | Jun 27 07:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no it was not. | Jun 27 07:39 |
| MinceR | just do ps -p 1 | Jun 27 07:39 |
| MinceR | if it says systemd, the damage is done | Jun 27 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has becoming a lot more like Solaris and IRIX in many ways. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's a piece at a time. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | next on today's program of bullshit: oiaohm claims you can't sign text logs | Jun 27 07:40 |
| DaemonFC | You wouldn't notice with any single change. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: syslog could have log where bit had been overwritten and damaged with no clues that it had happened. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: part of the binary logging is signing. | Jun 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: your beloved piece of trash can have 1 bit changed and you won't be able to figure out what happened | Jun 27 07:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that journald does | Jun 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | maybe your system got broken into | Jun 27 07:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft logging is not signned. | Jun 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | maybe you caught a cosmic ray | Jun 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | who knows? | Jun 27 07:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this is one of the clues that tell you that systemd is being modeled after solaris. | Jun 27 07:41 |
| cubexyz | a bit-1 error in ASCII would be easy to fix | Jun 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | if they make it routine enough (perhaps just by programming in their usually sloppy way), the NSA agents won't even need to try to cover their tracks | Jun 27 07:42 |
| MinceR | i found oiaohm's motto! http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/340982-if-you-can-t-dazzle-them-with-brilliance-baffle-them-with | Jun 27 07:43 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really no you just like being insulting. | Jun 27 07:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what information does syslog fail to record. | Jun 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | also, vms (winblows nt's ancestor) did binary logging before slowlaris even existed | Jun 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | but don't let the facts get in the way of your systemd shilling | Jun 27 07:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: vms and Windows logging does not contain validation stuff. | Jun 27 07:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: harden logging has a different family tree. | Jun 27 07:47 |
| MinceR | yeah, add one feature and suddenly it's a brand new idea | Jun 27 07:47 |
| oiaohm | progressively signed binary logging predates VMS. | Jun 27 07:48 |
| oiaohm | So this is not something from windows. | Jun 27 07:48 |
| MinceR | so much for the slowlaris hypothesis | Jun 27 07:48 |
| oiaohm | Slowarias was last in the tree of progressively signed binary logging before systemd journald. | Jun 27 07:48 |
| oiaohm | So it the most likely source of it. | Jun 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/379/532/43f.gif | Jun 27 07:49 |
| oiaohm | Really waste you time on stupid bullshit gifs you like. The reality is you never looked under the hood to id what tech journald was you saw binary logging and pressmed that linked it windows. | Jun 27 07:50 |
| oiaohm | The type says it really does not. | Jun 27 07:50 |
| oiaohm | The type says it should have repair tools | Jun 27 07:51 |
| oiaohm | That systemd is badly lacking. | Jun 27 07:51 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files/ the feature name that tells you that you not looking at a windows or vms based log is Forward Secure Sealing | Jun 27 07:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Forward Secure Sealing predates existing of vms being used on binary logs. Normally binary logs on hardened Unix systems. | Jun 27 07:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: lot of the things that people say systemd has taken from windows when you look at what they are it absolutely not. | Jun 27 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've hit some strange bugs, oiaohm | Jun 27 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | I reported all of them. | Jun 27 07:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there are a list of tools that should exist for a binary log with Forward secure sealing. One is a forensic tool To open them up and read the damaged sections. That exists on hardened solaris and the different hardened unix before it. | Jun 27 08:13 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: are processes expensive on slowlaris? | Jun 27 10:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the low cost process model of Linux comes from the way Solaris does things and was written into the elf file format. Processes being expensive is Windows/VMS thing. | Jun 27 10:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: does slowlaris pretend processes are expensive? | Jun 27 10:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: SMF in solaris was design to track services starting massive number processes because processes are not that much more expensive than starting a thread in solaris. | Jun 27 10:55 |
| MinceR | so where does systemd's obsession with doing a ton of unrelated stuff in one process come from? | Jun 27 10:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit was designed around the theory that services would thread because processes were heavier than threads in sysvinit. | Jun 27 10:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: correction in sysv | Jun 27 10:56 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 27 10:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so where does systemd's obsession with doing a ton of unrelated stuff in one process come from? | Jun 27 10:56 |
| oiaohm | PID usage to trace services on presume that there would be only 1 PID to a service is in your face with sysvinit. | Jun 27 10:57 |
| oiaohm | What happens with SMF ideas mean sysvinit ideas you get systemd. | Jun 27 10:57 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, was stuffing unrelated stuff together in one process an SMF idea? | Jun 27 10:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no its not. | Jun 27 10:59 |
| oiaohm | The idea is from sysvinit service design. | Jun 27 10:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does sysvinit's init process serve? | Jun 27 11:00 |
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| oiaohm | Designing a service compatible with sysvinit. Presumed 1 PID per service then you would use pthread under that. | Jun 27 11:00 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does sysvinit's init process serve? | Jun 27 11:01 |
| oiaohm | The wrong idea does not come from the init of sysvinit. Comes from design a service to be managed by sysvinit. | Jun 27 11:02 |
| oiaohm | So you have people who have been design services to be used under sysvinit then design a init system core. Not a good idea. | Jun 27 11:03 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does cron serve? | Jun 27 11:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how to stuff a system is what cron servers when it dies. | Jun 27 11:04 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does httpd serve? | Jun 27 11:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have complained about systemd killing cron completely before. | Jun 27 11:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what functions does postfix serve? | Jun 27 11:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: can you tell me why that is a good idea not a bad one. | Jun 27 11:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: You are just listing off services to be annoying. | Jun 27 11:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have raised cron do you know it defects. | Jun 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how is it that i keep coming up with typical services managed by sysvinit/rc that manage to do one thing per service? | Jun 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which of these is the inspiration for systemd's "design" of doing tons of unrelated things in one process? | Jun 27 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Cron is a really good example why sysvinit fails. | Jun 27 11:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but you don't know it defects right. | Jun 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so if it looks like systemd does have parallels with winblows, you change the subject. interesting. | Jun 27 11:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: No I don't so far you have shown no evidence that there are any real parallels. | Jun 27 11:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: other than what stupid idiots presume. | Jun 27 11:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: no, you have so far ignored the evidence that there are real parallels | Jun 27 11:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: when cron dies and you restart it what does cron do about any task that was left running. | Jun 27 11:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you have an interesting religion | Jun 27 11:08 |
| oiaohm | and what stops cron form starting those tasks twice. | Jun 27 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Or more times. | Jun 27 11:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not ignored instead when you have suggested a parallel I have checked where those features have come from. | Jun 27 11:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: and promptly ignored any inconvenient results? | Jun 27 11:10 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: no I have not. The reality is all the ones I have check clearly track else where because there are key marker features like in logging the sealing that lead to older than windows. | Jun 27 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and not linked to VMS either. | Jun 27 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the reality is that you ignore the reality, or twist it until it supports your claims, and ignore the bits that contradict it | Jun 27 11:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there might be a common link but is before VMS> | Jun 27 11:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so, what's that OS before VMS that is pathologically afraid of spawning new processes and optimizes for high probability of log corruption? | Jun 27 11:12 |
| oiaohm | VMS did take some ideas form different UNIX OSs. | Jun 27 11:12 |
| MinceR | VMS was designed along the only idea cutler had, which was "hurr durr i hate unix" | Jun 27 11:12 |
| oiaohm | remember unix pthread userspace threading. So yes on old unix starting a process was expensive. | Jun 27 11:13 |
| MinceR | threading is not the same thing as processes being expensive | Jun 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | there's a lot more to threading than just lightweight processes | Jun 27 11:14 |
| oiaohm | userspace threading was time cheap in compare. | Jun 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | (hint: IPC) | Jun 27 11:14 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: also systemd spawns a lot of processes. | Jun 27 11:15 |
| MinceR | yet ignores the possibility when it would make the most sense | Jun 27 11:16 |
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| oiaohm | I would correct that it ignores some cases where it makes sense to spawn processes. There are quite a few cases where it does do it correctly. The service management engine of systemd could be broken down more than what it is. | Jun 27 11:20 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do remember SMF first generation made the same mistake of having service management engine and init in one binary. | Jun 27 11:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd makes it worse having user session management shoved into the same binary as well. | Jun 27 11:22 |
| MinceR | and parsing unit files | Jun 27 11:22 |
| MinceR | and doing the job of cron, atd, [x]inetd badly | Jun 27 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: parsing solaris xml init files were in SMF core as well with first version. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | yay, sun is clueless too! | Jun 27 11:23 |
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| oiaohm | Later versions of SMF broke out cron, atd and inetd replacements as well. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| oiaohm | so systemd is way too much like first version SMF. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | it's also way too much like windows | Jun 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | and also way too much like macos | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Windows cron equal was never merged into the init system. | Jun 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | (it's poettering's way or the highway) | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem each of those merge parts says solaris. | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | The list don't match to the way windows is or has been assembled. | Jun 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | yes, in your obsessions | Jun 27 11:25 |
| oiaohm | first generation SMF is exact match. | Jun 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | talking to you is singularly unproductive | Jun 27 11:25 |
| oiaohm | So systemd is an attempt to bring SMF to linux based off first version. | Jun 27 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Too much stuff matches. | Jun 27 11:26 |
| oiaohm | binary logging included features match solaris hardened binary logging. | Jun 27 11:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically look at systemd compare to windows and solaris every time solaris comes out being the closest match. | Jun 27 11:27 |
| MinceR | except for the cases you ignore | Jun 27 11:28 |
| MinceR | because they don't fit into your model | Jun 27 11:28 |
| oiaohm | What case have I ignored. | Jun 27 11:28 |
| MinceR | but ok, you convinced me that slowlaris is also atrocious | Jun 27 11:28 |
| oiaohm | Note solaris changed a set of things after the first version of SMF like splitting init and service management. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | and also splitting out user session management. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | These splits have not happened in systemd. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | I see systemd as a really bad copy. | Jun 27 11:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa814329(v=vs.85).aspx read the description of windows binary logging. This is nothing like journal files https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files/ | Jun 27 11:35 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: only thing in common is the word binary. | Jun 27 11:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if I can find the solaris hardened logging format the append to end method that journal is using is the same as what is uses. | Jun 27 11:37 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: and if it is not the same then you can't find it. | Jun 27 12:02 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really you have never presented any data about any of your claims that there is a structure match. | Jun 27 12:04 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: when something is copied from something there is normally some design structure copied. | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: really, i was talking about ideas, not code headers | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | and attitudes | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, if i wanted to run slowlaris, then i'd just run slowlaris | Jun 27 12:05 |
| oiaohm | But the ideas when they are copied show up in design structure. | Jun 27 12:05 |
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| oiaohm | Windows might have releated ideas but that is not where the systemd developers have been coping their ideas form there is just too much miss match. | Jun 27 12:06 |
| MinceR | and so binariness shows up in the "design" | Jun 27 12:06 |
| MinceR | it's not like they could be copying from multiple atrocious products | Jun 27 12:06 |
| oiaohm | SMF first version 1 binary did everything. | Jun 27 12:06 |
| oiaohm | That was never present in windows. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| MinceR | did they have kdbus? | Jun 27 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Solaris kernel IPC. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| oiaohm | That is more designed to user usage than most of the Linux kernel ones. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| MinceR | was slowlaris' rationale for it "we don't know where the overhead is, but we can't be arsed to profile anything, so we'll just assume it's mode switching and throw it in the kernel"? | Jun 27 12:08 |
| oiaohm | solaris has dtrace and dtrace was used after solaris added the Ipc for user applications. | Jun 27 12:09 |
| MinceR | so? | Jun 27 12:09 |
| oiaohm | So same rational screw up. | Jun 27 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Some of the reason for slowaris | Jun 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | i can't follow that | Jun 27 12:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: a stack of features were added the the solaris kernel that they profiled after the case then had to remove a stack of them. | Jun 27 12:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 12:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so fairly much everything talking about kinda happened at solaris first and the systemd guys did not learn from their failures. | Jun 27 12:11 |
| oiaohm | But then copy solaris failures. | Jun 27 12:12 |
| MinceR | that doesn't sound like deliberately copying the design, just being stupid in the exact same way | Jun 27 12:12 |
| oiaohm | when you get to 150+ matches you start thinking this has to be more than dumb luck. | Jun 27 12:13 |
| MinceR | i don't see the point of copying old failures | Jun 27 12:14 |
| MinceR | but maybe i'm just not irrational enough to follow those people | Jun 27 12:14 |
| oiaohm | I can see how it could happen. If you had solaris from a particular point in time and no newer and were using that a reference to duplicate. You would be missing all the fixes. | Jun 27 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Like the argument to avoid context switches was in the ipc for SMF that was merged in solaris. The argument for kdbus and the solaris user ipc was almost the same wording. | Jun 27 12:17 |
| MinceR | i guess | Jun 27 12:18 |
| MinceR | if you never stopped to think whether the things you were copying were actually workable | Jun 27 12:18 |
| oiaohm | It was not like SMF version 1 did not fix a few issues. So if you were focused in on fixing those issues you could have ignored some of the other issues. | Jun 27 12:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: tunnel vision effect in code development can be major cause of trouble. | Jun 27 12:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not test casing cgroup properly off the start line with systemd does suggest at the start they were not thinking about if the solution would 100 percent work as well. | Jun 27 12:24 |
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| MinceR | they still don't care, apparently | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | years after it was proclaimed to be "stable" | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | i don't expect this project to ever be fixed | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | they don't have the right attitude for that | Jun 27 12:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they did develop test cases of cgroup v1 in the end that proved it was broken and put test cases on cgroup v2. | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | and then they gave up? | Jun 27 12:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but that should not been 6 years into development. | Jun 27 12:25 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris test cases and fixed zones 6 months into SMF development. If 6 months in SMF is 6 years in systemd developlment we should see it break up into bits 2026 | Jun 27 12:30 |
| MinceR | and actually stable in 2046? | Jun 27 12:31 |
| oiaohm | some point around then yes. | Jun 27 12:31 |
| MinceR | and fit for integration into non-redhat distros in 2050? | Jun 27 12:31 |
| oiaohm | I am not exacty game to say systemd cannot be fixed. Because looking at how SMF was changed over time suggest it is fixable. | Jun 27 12:32 |
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| MinceR | i think they'll either forget about it entirely and do something different well before it could be fixed | Jun 27 12:34 |
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| MinceR | or they'll forget all the tickets and everything that could (and should) have been learned and start over | Jun 27 12:34 |
| MinceR | (CADT model) | Jun 27 12:34 |
| oiaohm | There is room for something better to be developed. | Jun 27 12:34 |
| MinceR | not a high standard | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | systemd is one of the worst designs i've encountered | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | it could be used to demonstrate what not to do in software engineering 101 | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | (a course poettering did not learn) | Jun 27 12:35 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has quite a few demo of how not to write specification for a design. | Jun 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | can't have that much, as it's relatively trivial | Jun 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | a bit overdone, but nowhere near systemd | Jun 27 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Really we need a properly designed init and service management system. Done to mathematically certified standard. | Jun 27 12:37 |
| oiaohm | At some point we had to move on from sysvinit ways of doing things. | Jun 27 12:41 |
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| MinceR | you had to. i don't see why you had to force others to go with you. | Jun 27 13:01 |
| oiaohm | The list of defects in sysvinit that were not addressed had to be addressed at some point | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | and that what has happened. something appears that deals with some of the sysvinit issues and groups changed. | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Of course what has appeared is lacking in some areas still. | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | the problem here is ignoring the defects in sysvinit and not starting to design functional replacements have brought us to this point. | Jun 27 13:05 |
| MinceR | when addressing defects, the idea is usually not to make them even worse | Jun 27 13:18 |
| MinceR | but to fix them. | Jun 27 13:18 |
| MinceR | no, that did not bring us to this point | Jun 27 13:19 |
| MinceR | ratcrap's greed and lust for power and poettering's extreme incompetence and the community being flooded with clueless lusers is what brought us to this point | Jun 27 13:19 |
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| MinceR | evil rarely goes after evil, though | Jun 27 15:03 |
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| Hellenico | When the greek representative left the greek patent office, the BB kept him as president of the finance and budget committee for another two years | Jun 27 16:36 |
| Hellenico | illegally of course | Jun 27 16:36 |
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| Hellenico | And why??? | Jun 27 16:37 |
| Hellenico | The answer is obvious | Jun 27 16:37 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Jun 27 16:37 |
| Hellenico | Serafeim Stasinos at that time was rather stronger than the danish counterpart | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | Hi there | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | I heard something like this... | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | About Greek finance people at EPO | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | This greek guy is a master in bullying | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | You should ask the greek emplyees about | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | is he the one work worked for a greek lady? | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Long before than BB!!! | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | can you start it from the beginning (background)? | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Sure!!! | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Ask me whatever you want | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | we can then request email leaks | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | do we know who applied for JK's position? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Ernst? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | DE usually abstains on BB proposals | Jun 27 16:40 |
| Hellenico | Not sure yet | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe Campinos? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw him mentioned several times in the news last week | Jun 27 16:40 |
| Hellenico | Bingo!!!! | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | so anyway, what's the Greek thing? | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:37] <Hellenico> The answer is obvious | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | not obvious to me | Jun 27 16:41 |
| Hellenico | The other best friend | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | anyone but grossenbacher | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | former friend | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | but too powerful, not supine enough anymore, does not quality (was there before) | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | *qualify | Jun 27 16:42 |
| Hellenico | Lots of money in Bb's pocket while the greek representative was president of the finance and budget committee | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I'd like to know who applied | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | someone inside the Council/Board surely knows | Jun 27 16:42 |
| Hellenico | Campinos is one name that I heard too | Jun 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | so was it BB's way of buying Greeks' votes? | Jun 27 16:43 |
| Hellenico | But also there is a rumour about the italian representative | Jun 27 16:43 |
| Hellenico | A lady | Jun 27 16:43 |
| Hellenico | This information comes from epi | Jun 27 16:44 |
| schestowitz | what is this rumour? | Jun 27 16:44 |
| Hellenico | To appoint someone whose name is not involved in anything so fat | Jun 27 16:45 |
| Hellenico | And at the same time can be manipulated | Jun 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | what is the name? | Jun 27 16:47 |
| Hellenico | Loredan Gullino | Jun 27 16:48 |
| Hellenico | Loredana sorry | Jun 27 16:48 |
| schestowitz | epi made a statement or just hearsay | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 27 16:49 |
| Hellenico | Hearsay i am afraid | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | there seems to be infighting there over BB | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | as they removed their own letter | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand their politics, but I guess it's like Team UPC vs firms that don't care for the UPC | Jun 27 16:50 |
| Hellenico | The issue is that whoever will be, nothing changes | Jun 27 16:50 |
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| Hellenico | The representatives make their own deals, as bb is quite generous to them... | Jun 27 16:50 |
| Hellenico | I lll give you the greek example again | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | Two years ago the greek representative changes again | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | An comes from the left party | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | at the begining he opposed to bb, and some months later become bb´ s puppet | Jun 27 16:52 |
| Hellenico | Soory for the wrong words, it is the autocorrect | Jun 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | It's still too vague to be something one can write about | Jun 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | maybe some documents would demonstrate the position changes | Jun 27 16:54 |
| Hellenico | Ioannis Kaplanis is the "left" representative at the AC .... | Jun 27 16:54 |
| Hellenico | I' ll try to find sth | Jun 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | hang on, flood/ddos attack | Jun 27 16:56 |
| Hellenico | I ll be back again in a couple of days if i have a document | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | vergibot again | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | please, yes, need documents if possible | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | or old emails | Jun 27 16:56 |
| Hellenico | Ok | Jun 27 16:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Leap Is Now 99.9% Enterprise Distribution | Tux Machines | Jun 27 18:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: #GitHub declares every Friday open | Jun 27 18:40 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov Maybe the NSA will be given...' | Jun 27 19:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: Sony's unorthodox take on AI is now open | Jun 27 19:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 0.11.1 and #Linux #Kernel 4.11.6 https://t.co/bj5RmjCYJ4 | Jun 27 19:33 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov Should have moved to #gnu #linux...' | Jun 27 19:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Binary_Defense @Snowden Better: wipe #microsoft #windows and install...' | Jun 27 19:49 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden More &more people ought to confront media/journalists...' | Jun 27 20:30 | |
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| EricCromwell | The error i saw was "not the just Internet/communications level; " instead of "not just the" | Jun 27 20:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Microsoft #Windows, Security News About #GNU #Linux | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/beniaSlbZ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #petya | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 27 21:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/879792697514569728 | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Ubuntu #Kylin, a Linux Distribution with a Microsoft | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec Windows Experience | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hypbEDWmMT (www.tuxmachines.org) #china #gnu | Jun 27 21:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 27 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Kylin, a Linux Distribution with a Microsoft Windows Experience | Tux Machines | Jun 27 21:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | I posted: | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | There was a project to use the JavaScript engine of Webkit instead of GJS but it stalled out. Mozilla's Spidermonkey engine doesn't perform badly, but with the way Mozilla has gone, more projects that used to be usable by themselves are being folded into Firefox and having anything that doesn't make sense in the context of Firefox removed, so Gnome may regret going the way that they did with GJS. Not only is the JavaScript engine for Webkit | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | developed outside of the context of a web browser, it's already provided by Webkit's GTK port, which is already a part of Gnome to power anything that needs web rendering capabilities, including the help system, the Gnome Web (Epiphany) browser, and HTML emails in Evolution. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that it would be once bitten twice shy after the debacle of depending on XulRunner to provide a web engine for Gnome 2.x, especially during the transition from it to Webkit, where Epiphany (Gnome Web) had to have an abstraction layer instead of a rendering engine because it could be compiled with either XulRunner or Webkit for a couple of release cycles. The abstraction layer was awful. It really crippled the browser, and it was | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | the cause of a lot of crashes too. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Although Gnome now claims that there will be no extension breakage in the future, if they have to change the JavaScript engine that powers the shell, _everything_ could potentially break. I presume that if it comes to that, they'd rather hobble around with a fork of Mozilla's JavaScript engine until they could break compatibility with everything again and call it Gnome 4. It's foolish to expect consistency from Mozilla at this point. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should also mention that GJS hasn't been smooth sailing lately. It's crashed more times than I care to think about in Fedora 26. They keep adding patches and bumping the version, but it doesn't seem to be getting much more stable, for me at least. | Jun 27 21:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Maybe the next ads will revolve around...' | Jun 27 21:14 | |
| XRevan86 | GJS… Isn't that GObject Introspection for JavaScript? | Jun 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | could be a javascript -> native toolchain in gcc :> | Jun 27 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Different versions of mozjs are not fully compatible with each other | Jun 27 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | yet GJS has no troubles migrating from one to another :) | Jun 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome's interface is largely written in JavaScript. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | A car passed by outside the window with loud music, which is C. C. Catch. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | means you can extend it to do just about anything. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| MinceR | btw, are you aware of deep sandboxing support in language implementations other than javascript and java? | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | So even though the default layout is retarded, it can be fixed up with extensions. | Jun 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | (deep as in it doesn't completely hinge on what symbols the sandboxed code is allowed to see) | Jun 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | i guess there's also QuakeC, but i'd rather not adopt that | Jun 27 21:21 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Maybe the next ads will...' | Jun 27 21:22 | |
| XRevan86 | > It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell | Jun 27 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | It's really literally GObject Introspection bindings for JS | Jun 27 21:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 27 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959738-mate-developers-are-considering-mir-over-wayland?p=959838#post959838 | Jun 27 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MATE Developers Are Considering Mir-Over-Wayland - Phoronix Forums | Jun 27 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Broken by default and no obvious way to fix KDE does not equal "the best". | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Also, littering the system with features that don't work (like inline spell check) is not acceptable. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Also, how do you make SDDM scale? There is no setting to make it scale in the KDE control panel. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is rotting from the inside out. Their last truly great release was 3.5.11. They can't really seem to properly maintain what they currently have, much less take on anything new. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Not just #assange case: https://t.co/Q2bRSQRC3R https://t.co/u3uIKOyaLB...' | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | UK human rights record under pressure from UN torture panel | Law | The Guardian | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | They seem to have a pattern of waiting until everything is working and then trashing it and starting over from scratch. | Jun 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | I know that the 5 series is a continuation of the 4 series ported to Qt5, but boy are things deteriorating... | Jun 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Pretending that the applications need to be separated from the desktop is where things seem to have really gone bad. | Jun 27 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: They do need to though. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like they stopped caring about integration because three or four people in the world might want to use their software on Windows, Mac, or Gnome. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not having a coherent release of the entire system is really hurting them. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ah, I thought you mean separation of kdelibs into more modules and better work outside of KDE | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | It creates a mess of combinations that become possible, where instead of "Oh, I'm running KDE 5.10", it's "Well, I'm on suse and they packaged this version of that application on top of this version of the Plasma desktop.". | Jun 27 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | because KDE 5 applications definitely work better outside of KDE than KDE 4 ones were | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's no way to pin problems down to a particular release of the entire project. | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | They use private libs and everything. It's a toxic hellstew, to borrow a phrase. | Jun 27 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | At least with Gnome you can tell someone "My distribution provides Gnome 3.24." and they immediately know what it is that you're running. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | How to reproduce it. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | What version of a library that program is using. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | When there's a bug, being able to reproduce it reliably is key. | Jun 27 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | That explains why GNOME developers always bump their requirements to the max | Jun 27 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Jun 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's a self-contained project. | Jun 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Their answer is literally "Well, I'm glad that Cheese works for you in KDE, but we really don't care if it does or not outside of Gnome.". | Jun 27 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: When gettext became self-reliant, GNOME didn't wait and killed intltool in an instant | Jun 27 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to support a million possible combinations is a recipe for disaster. | Jun 27 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | Always wants the latest GTK+ which makes backports very hard (not that I care) | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's bugzilla is turning into something even worse than Ubuntu Launchpad. | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you have a dozen "me toos" and then the bug just becomes a zombie. | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Three years later, you have the same bug and there's still no resolution. | Jun 27 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I cherry picked some patches this morning. | Jun 27 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | One was a security vulnerability in systemd. | Jun 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR's favorite package. | Jun 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jun 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | a security vulnerability in a massive hairball that was hacked up in c without any care? | Jun 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | - Fix an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved (CVE-2017-9445) | Jun 27 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=912516 | Jun 27 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | systemd-233-5.fc26 | Build Info | koji | Jun 27 21:50 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess ready, fire, aim? | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | They'll patch the fuck out of it as they go along. | Jun 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | and introduce new bugs in the process | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | "- Backport a bunch of small fixes (memleaks, wrong format strings, | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | man page clarifications, shell completion)" | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | As in, too many to bother listing. | Jun 27 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: systemd-resolved, nice | Jun 27 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My favorite was a guy who said that he left his CentOS 7 server going for 18 days and systemd was using 4 GB of RAM. | Jun 27 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | https://serverfault.com/questions/755818/systemd-using-4gb-ram-after-18-days-of-uptime | Jun 27 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | linux - systemd Using 4GB RAM After 18 Days of Uptime - Server Fault | Jun 27 21:52 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | That'ss like the mother of all memory leaks. | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | How the fuck does this end up in RHEL so fast? | Jun 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: if you want to see how cognitive dissonance makes people ignore stimuli, tell our resident systemd shill that | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Servers are supposed to be reliable enough to stay running for months or years | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | servers don't matter, though | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | only poettering's laptop matters | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | (which is, strangely enough, apparently a multiseat system) | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | There was even the old story about a RHEL system that was accidentally walled off by contractors and nobody noticed until it stopped responding three years later. | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Those days are gone. | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | (ok, maybe it's a desktop) | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks, Poettering. | Jun 27 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why is multiseat important on a laptop? | Jun 27 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: It's a reference to logind being important. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat must be pressuring him to add multiseat because their customers want it. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why ConsoleKit had to die. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Personally... | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | It seemed to be doing okay. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Marion, Indiana public library used Userful Discoverstation to run 20 internet terminals off of one computer. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was based on Fedora 6. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | They rebranded everything, but it was still obvious what it was. | Jun 27 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | > Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why is multiseat important at all in 2017? | Jun 27 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | (please don't hack my resolved) | Jun 27 21:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Not just #assange case: https://t.co/Q2bRSQRC3R...' | Jun 27 22:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@hackerfantastic @Snowden Live CD: GNU/Linux saves users from...' | Jun 27 22:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 22:00 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They released systemd way too soon in the development process, put it in RHEL mostly untested, and now they're patching it constantly. | Jun 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | At least I assume the CVE is about a remote attack | Jun 27 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yet, Red Hat's revenue keeps going up? | Jun 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-9445 ** RESERVED ** | Jun 27 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | 19% YoY? | Jun 27 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2017-9445 | Jun 27 22:01 | |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Well, it has more privileges than the user. | Jun 27 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/618 | Jun 27 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: seclists.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/618 ) | Jun 27 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC | CVE-2017-9445: Out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved with crafted TCP payload | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Hi, | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I recently discovered an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved in | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu, which is possible to trigger with a specially crafted TCP payload. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Details from the Ubuntu bug follow: | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 | Jun 27 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 ) | Jun 27 22:05 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: worse, they used political trickery to force it on other distros as well | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Certain sizes passed to dns_packet_new can cause it to allocate a buffer | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small. A page-aligned number - sizeof(DnsPacket) + | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | sizeof(iphdr) + sizeof(udphdr) will do this - so, on x86 this will be a | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | page-aligned number - 80. Eg, calling dns_packet_new with a size of 4016 | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | on x86 will result in an allocation of 4096 bytes, but 108 bytes of this | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | are for the DnsPacket struct. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | then again, debian people should have had a backbone | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | A malicious DNS server can exploit this by responding with a specially | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | crafted TCP payload to trick systemd-resolved in to allocating a buffer | Jun 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | and refused | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small, and subsequently write arbitrary data beyond the end | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | of it. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I believe this was introduced by | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/a0166609f782da91710dea9183d1bf138538db37 | Jun 27 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: too much pasta | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | (v223) and affects all subsequent versions up to and including v233. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-resolved: packet - ensure there is space for IP+UDP headers · systemd/systemd@a016660 · GitHub | Jun 27 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | A patch to resolve this has been provided by Zbigniew | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Jędrzejewski-Szmek, along with an additional patch to implement a test. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Both of these are attached. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Many thanks, | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, way too much pasta | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chris | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | and not enough sauce | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | or meatballs | Jun 27 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yeah, really lacking | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, it opens up systemd-resolved to attack by a malicious DNS server. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if your DNS server is malicious, you're kind of screwed anyway. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | But it's one of those bugs that someone like the NSA might use. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Go to ISPs and make them use it to cause systemd-resolved to install malware on your computer. | Jun 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | malicious DNS servers are commonplace | Jun 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | typically of the NXDOMAIN -> ad page kind | Jun 27 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Comcrap before they decided to cut it out? | Jun 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | can't give any specific examples | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint does it too. | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | On my phone. | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | They take you to a shitty search page full of advertisements. | Jun 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 27 22:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879809405512011776 | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development Functional #Programming in #JavaScript and | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Learning to Code | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gwKqIHdo7W (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development Functional Programming in JavaScript and Learning to Code | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879810718677303296 | Jun 27 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing of Ideas, Designs | Jun 27 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UOnKSajqIN (www.tuxmachines.org) #sharing | Jun 27 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 27 22:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing of Ideas, Designs | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879812079104004096 | Jun 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software and #Games | Jun 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qt8GhkwNfP (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming | Jun 27 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 27 22:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879814073885614080 | Jun 27 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows | Jun 27 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Jun 27 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Techrights | Jun 27 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879814840142974976 | Jun 27 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Development Functional #Programming in #JavaScript and | Jun 27 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Learning to Code | Jun 27 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing of Ideas, Designs | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software and #Games https://t.co/qt8GhkwNfP #freesw #gaming...' | Jun 27 22:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879815827763146752 | Jun 27 22:50 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln7rc5WYWM | Jun 27 22:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/listening http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497280722-20170612after.png | Jun 27 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Listening | Jun 27 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/akaSassinak/status/879819132534968320 | Jun 27 23:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 27 23:02 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Au0l3ST | Jun 27 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polishing A Rusty Knife - GIF on Imgur | Jun 27 23:14 | |
| cubexyz | if you like old KDE 3.5.10 then try trinity | Jun 27 23:18 |
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| MinceR | done | Jun 27 23:20 |
| MinceR | i'll see if cde (the package manager) can turn exe gnu/linux's tde applications into portable packages :> | Jun 27 23:20 |
| cubexyz | some Russian physicists even made a version for slackware | Jun 27 23:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 27 23:22 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll just install that, then | Jun 27 23:23 |
| MinceR | if it's well-behaved enough | Jun 27 23:23 |
| cubexyz | https://sourceforge.net/projects/tde-slackware/ | Jun 27 23:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TDE & KDE3 for Slackware download | SourceForge.net | Jun 27 23:23 | |
| cubexyz | well, at least someone is working on it | Jun 27 23:30 |
| cubexyz | I switched to icewm on slack | Jun 27 23:34 |
| cubexyz | but I still use konsole and kolourpaint a lot | Jun 27 23:35 |
| MinceR | i have fvwm mostly set up on slack | Jun 27 23:39 |
| MinceR | i just need to get a gentoo prefix set up so i can install feh | Jun 27 23:39 |
| MinceR | and wmctrl | Jun 27 23:39 |
| MinceR | and terminator (though that's only referred to in the menus) | Jun 27 23:40 |
| MinceR | not sure if those TDE/KDE packages would work on -current | Jun 27 23:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/879832557810061312 | Jun 27 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 27 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas Compute Module 3 (CM3) https://t.co/wmtnYLDXm3 | Jun 27 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Core Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 (CM3) | Tux Machines | Jun 27 23:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 27 23:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #raspi | Jun 27 23:54 |
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| cubexyz | ha, neat | Jun 28 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I got two x2x's running | Jun 28 00:59 |
| cubexyz | one for icewm and one for fvwm | Jun 28 00:59 |
| cubexyz | fvwm had that matrix thing which was nice | Jun 28 01:00 |
| cubexyz | and it had this funky startup which called netscape, xlander, xsnow, etc | Jun 28 01:04 |
| cubexyz | xsnow doesn't seem to work on "modern" systems (note the quotes) | Jun 28 01:14 |
| cubexyz | how about that... | Jun 28 01:15 |
| cubexyz | works with mwm, but not fvwm or icewm | Jun 28 01:16 |
| cubexyz | xsnow also works with twm | Jun 28 01:20 |
| cubexyz | and one can kill an instance of ummm what the best way to call it... | Jun 28 01:23 |
| cubexyz | Xserver instance I guess | Jun 28 01:24 |
| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-backspace only kills one instance so if you have multiple ones running it'll still run the other ones | Jun 28 01:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xsnow-christmas-time-2017.png | Jun 28 01:35 |
| cubexyz | evidently xsnow only snows on the root window | Jun 28 01:42 |
| cubexyz | ok, xsnow 1.42 does work with icewm | Jun 28 01:45 |
| cubexyz | and fvwm | Jun 28 01:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/879877037930029056 | Jun 28 03:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines today's howtos https://t.co/zawNmd4NOv | Jun 28 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 03:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu #linux #unix #cli | Jun 28 03:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879918836832772097 | Jun 28 05:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary #Benchmarks On #Linux | Jun 28 05:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UUb6syBauK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary Benchmarks On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 05:27 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:45] <EricCromwell> On the Microsoft and NSA wiki page there is a grammatical error I was going to suggest an edit for but oddly, I am blocked, though I have never visited this page before ever. | Jun 28 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Fixed! | Jun 28 05:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary #Benchmarks On #Linux...' | Jun 28 05:53 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: wine project does have it on going limitations. | Jun 28 05:53 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Jun 28 05:57 |
| schestowitz | but it often does OK for things, more so over time | Jun 28 05:58 |
| schestowitz | I tried it a few times over the years | Jun 28 05:58 |
| cubexyz | not to mention the NSA attacks on Dell servers | Jun 28 06:02 |
| cubexyz | DEITYBOUNCE | Jun 28 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is now carrying 78 patches against systemd | Jun 28 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Jun 28 06:03 |
| cubexyz | and who worked at Dell? Snowden | Jun 28 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/diff/0009-journal-prevent-integer-overflow-while-validating-he.patch?h=f26&id=f5f07378296025328eb987f4b38f07a86c059505 | Jun 28 06:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 28 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/tree/?h=f26 | Jun 28 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 06:08 | |
| schestowitz | Google Gets Record $2.7 Billion EU Fine for Skewing Searches - Bloomberg | Jun 28 06:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-27/google-gets-record-2-7-billion-eu-fine-for-skewing-searches | Jun 28 06:11 |
| schestowitz | hahahahaha | Jun 28 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Gets Record $2.7 Billion EU Fine for Skewing Searches - Bloomberg | Jun 28 06:11 | |
| DaemonFC | Scrooooooooooooooooooooooooogle | Jun 28 06:14 |
| schestowitz | it's dead | Jun 28 06:15 |
| schestowitz | long dead | Jun 28 06:15 |
| schestowitz | I used to use it | Jun 28 06:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: proves the theory that 64 bit numbers can overflow. | Jun 28 06:19 |
| oiaohm | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/tree/0015-basic-don-t-link-libm.so-into-libbasic.so-5628.patch?h=f26 This one is very common. | Jun 28 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.fedoraproject.org | 0015-basic-don-t-link-libm.so-into-libbasic.so-5628.patch - rpms/systemd.git - systemd | Jun 28 06:21 | |
| oiaohm | Linking libraries that never get used. | Jun 28 06:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9530355 | Jun 28 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA-linked tools help power second global ransomware outbreak http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/ransomware-virus-nsa-petya-hacking-tools-240008 neglecting to mention it targets #microsoft #windows Why? | Jun 28 06:22 | |
| schestowitz | second paragraph only | Jun 28 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> NSA-linked tools help power second global ransomware outbreak - POLITICO | Jun 28 06:22 | |
| schestowitz | imagine if it was Linux | Jun 28 06:22 |
| schestowitz | in headline for sure | Jun 28 06:22 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: still bad | Jun 28 06:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: when I say common -lm is one of the most commonly over linked libraries you find in any package. | Jun 28 06:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: remember NSA had access to windows source code. | Jun 28 06:29 |
| schestowitz | yes, so nobody out there can find the bugs as easily as them | Jun 28 06:31 |
| schestowitz | except maybe some governments | Jun 28 06:31 |
| cubexyz | all of it? every version? | Jun 28 06:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sharedsource/government-security-program.aspx just put in a formal request as a government is quite shocking what Microsoft will hand over. | Jun 28 06:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft | Shared Source Initiative | Jun 28 06:38 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/C/A/BCAFF3F5-5DB5-4AB4-9AAB-5CF0814E0948/GovernmentSecurityProgram.pdf This is a odd version of the description. Current version and in windows 10 .... | Jun 28 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doesn't ever stop "the news". "Huge Linux vulnerability!" and then Linux turns out to be OpenSSL or Samba. | Jun 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 28 06:46 |
| schestowitz | I confronted some journalists about it yesterday | Jun 28 06:46 |
| schestowitz | They fail to name Windows in headlines for example | Jun 28 06:47 |
| schestowitz | anyway, got to get on with writing now, bbl | Jun 28 06:47 |
| oiaohm | It is a big problem with openssl in particularly thinking a lot of products on windows use openssl. | Jun 28 06:47 |
| cubexyz | because nothing else exists! DUH | Jun 28 06:47 |
| cubexyz | especially on mainstream media | Jun 28 06:48 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/J6z4Eyl.jpg | Jun 28 06:48 |
| oiaohm | https://pydio.com/en/docs/kb/system/setup-https-windowsapache << different people using windows to-do things are using openssl. | Jun 28 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Setup HTTPS on Windows+Apache | Pydio | Jun 28 06:49 | |
| oiaohm | So it really bad to make out a openssl flaw is Linux because windows, os x, Android.... have applications using it. | Jun 28 06:50 |
| cubexyz | that's why the CRA was shutdown for a while | Jun 28 06:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: CRA? | Jun 28 06:52 |
| cubexyz | Canada Revenue Agency | Jun 28 06:53 |
| cubexyz | shutdown because of heartbleed | Jun 28 06:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I was sure you did not mean this CRA http://www.catholicreligiousaustralia.org.au/ | Jun 28 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catholicreligiousaustralia.org.au | Welcome | Jun 28 06:55 | |
| cubexyz | too many acronyms, I usually avoid that | Jun 28 06:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: they were also effected by heartbleed. | Jun 28 06:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879925719631110144 | Jun 28 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows | Jun 28 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Jun 28 07:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/EywuuBU3Nf (techrights.org) | Jun 28 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows Ransomware on the Loose Worldwide | Techrights | Jun 28 07:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Get the Nasty Party out....' | Jun 28 07:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Get the Nasty Party out. It barely...' | Jun 28 07:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The Samba one turned out to be Samba on a Raspberry Pi, with the default password. | Jun 28 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | They screamed like it was Dirty Cow or something. | Jun 28 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | Shit happens, but it's not often that there's some huge exploit like that. | Jun 28 07:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Most important open source networking projects | Tux Machines | Jun 28 08:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/879957684123992064 | Jun 28 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary | Jun 28 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Benchmarks On #Linux https://t.co/wnwk5Xgs1T | Jun 28 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i7 7740X Preliminary Benchmarks On Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 08:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/updates/testing/26/x86_64/repoview/qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld.html | Jun 28 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-download1.rpmfusion.org | RepoView: "RPM Fusion Fedora free 26 updates testing - x86_64" | Jun 28 08:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, Qtwebkit needs a freeworld package because it doesn't use Gstreamer? | Jun 28 08:19 |
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| schestowitz | on UPC | Jun 28 08:29 |
| schestowitz | "@alex Could you reactivate the petition now that elections have passed?' | Jun 28 08:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/cFkGltm2As | Jun 28 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 28 10:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #Microsoft #Windows Armageddon and Other News | Jun 28 10:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Xinix Offers Linux Lovers a Path to Zen | Jun 28 10:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IgnhXpuJ2i (www.tuxmachines.org) #XinixOS | Jun 28 10:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Jun 28 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux | Jun 28 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Gaming and Office Use | Jun 28 11:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for Linux Gaming and Office Use | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 28 11:39 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my | Jun 28 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dear... | Jun 28 11:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 28 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... ht... | Jun 28 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF #android #linux #google' | Jun 28 11:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary,...' | Jun 28 11:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, | Jun 28 14:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @glynmoody Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Jun 28 14:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 14:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/880053635052326912 | Jun 28 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 28 14:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Compute Module 3 (CM3) https://t.co/wmtnYLDXm3 | Jun 28 14:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Core Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 (CM3) | Tux Machines | Jun 28 14:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 14:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So don't use Windows. It's designed for...' | Jun 28 16:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks So don't use Windows. It's...' | Jun 28 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | BTW, typo in the first among your two paragraphs. Says "Micorosoft". | Jun 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | re | Jun 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Elsa | Jun 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | "Today, June 28th 2017, WikiLeaks publishes documents from the ELSA project of the CIA. ELSA is a geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled devices like laptops running the Microsoft Windows operating system. Once persistently installed on a target machine using separate CIA exploits, the malware scans visible WiFi access points and records the ESS identifier, MAC address and signal strength at regular intervals. To perform the data collection | Jun 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | the target machine does not have to be online or connected to an access point; it only needs to be running with an enabled WiFi device. If it is connected to the internet, the malware automatically tries to use public geo-location databases from Google or Microsoft to resolve the position of the device and stores the longitude and latitude data along with the timestamp. The collected access point/geo-location information is stored in | Jun 28 16:15 |
| schestowitz | encrypted form on the device for later exfiltration. The malware itself does not beacon this data to a CIA back-end; instead the operator must actively retrieve the log file from the device - again using separate CIA exploits and backdoors." | Jun 28 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to wikileaks.org:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Elsa ) | Jun 28 16:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The "expert". Is that after they...' | Jun 28 16:18 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks That depends on the domain. In politics,...' | Jun 28 16:27 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 28 16:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880090806920638464 | Jun 28 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Wikileaks #CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for | Jun 28 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | WiFi-enabled ... Microsoft Windows" | Jun 28 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jCSik88P8s (www.tuxmachines.org) #elsa | Jun 28 16:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vault7 | Jun 28 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wikileaks CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled ... Microsoft Windows" | Tux Machines | Jun 28 16:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Wikileaks #CIA Leak on "geo-location malware for WiFi-enabled...' | Jun 28 17:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks They should get one of these: ...' | Jun 28 18:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/880111973177802752 | Jun 28 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma | Jun 28 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Discover's #Flatpak Backend | Jun 28 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 | Jun 28 18:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #debian | Jun 28 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 image | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future | Jun 28 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plans | Jun 28 18:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #xen #linux | Jun 28 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future Plans | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:26 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current...' | Jun 28 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880115830603862016 | Jun 28 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #NVIDIA 381.10.10 #Vulkan #Linux Driver #Benchmarks | Jun 28 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 381.10.10 Vulkan Linux Driver Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880116123081089026 | Jun 28 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further #FOSS | Jun 28 18:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google | Jun 28 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further FOSS community outreach | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:37 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further...' | Jun 28 18:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine Staging 2.11 | Jun 28 18:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging #wine #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.11 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880120676484624384 | Jun 28 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 18:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L7YWC2sIwD (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 28 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Unreal Tournament, STASIS, Super Rocket Shootout and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880121617908736003 | Jun 28 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 19:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Jun 28 19:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #kde #freesw #plasma | Jun 28 19:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 19:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 19:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 19:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @EpocaNow favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc #android #google #linux #oneplus #tablo' | Jun 28 19:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion https://t.co/UYKTbKGAnU #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 19:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 19:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More | Jun 28 20:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mir, NVIDIA, OpenGL, RadeonSI and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More ...' | Jun 28 20:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jovinosumicity/status/880145928069550082 | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jovinosumicity https://t.co/Sn6vzK2BKT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Dough_Nutz37 favourited '#Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 https://t.co/KumOMmadp5 #ubuntu...' | Jun 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880150595230978052 | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #distrowatch #review | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 20:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 20:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, I figured out how to get Qt5 apps to scale properly, at least. | Jun 28 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880153285272928256 | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE and Plasma: Release of #Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Live #PLASMA5, and KDE for #FreeBSD | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GmxqgsCIES (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 21:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and Plasma: Release of Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for Slackware Live PLASMA5, and KDE for FreeBSD | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880154231558332416 | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/79y1BDLsDa (www.tuxmachines.org) #petya | Jun 28 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Windows Ransomware, Windows in Warships, Zero Trust Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 28 21:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE and Plasma: Release of #Plasma 5.10.3, New...' | Jun 28 21:06 | |
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| cubexyz | re: demostrate NTserver as THE internet platform... dated 1995 | Jun 28 21:08 |
| cubexyz | well, the Freenets used BSD back then | Jun 28 21:09 |
| cubexyz | the TCP/IP stack was introduced to Unix in 4.2BSD | Jun 28 21:12 |
| cubexyz | that was 1982 | Jun 28 21:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 28 21:14 | |
| cubexyz | oh and one other point you may find interesting | Jun 28 21:14 |
| cubexyz | the BSD TCP/IP code was used in NT 3.1, macOS and iOS | Jun 28 21:15 |
| cubexyz | also BSD -> SunOS, NeXTSTEP, Ultrix, etc | Jun 28 21:16 |
| cubexyz | and if I was so inclined I could scan for BSD code in NT or win2k | Jun 28 21:18 |
| cubexyz | BeBOX with BeOS also used code from BSD | Jun 28 21:20 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him about your...' | Jun 28 21:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him...' | Jun 28 21:24 | |
| cubexyz | NT 3.5 was using the rewritten TCP/IP stack | Jun 28 21:32 |
| MinceR | "rewritten" | Jun 28 21:36 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Trump loves Indians so much that...' | Jun 28 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164038495416322 | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 21:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164269676953602 | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/vSt8L0B1Wc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 28 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Adreno Project “Freedreno” Receives New Update | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:43 | |
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| cubexyz | Wollongong Group also used BSD code or at least derived their code from it | Jun 28 21:43 |
| cubexyz | which was allowed of course | Jun 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group made a package for Unix v7 | Jun 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | also one for the IBM PC | Jun 28 21:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited '#System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU #gnu #linux preloaded....' | Jun 28 21:47 | |
| cubexyz | Wollongong is a reference to the University of Wollongong in Australia but... | Jun 28 21:47 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group was based in California | Jun 28 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165676698218496 | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #chromeos | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #android | Jun 28 21:48 |
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| cubexyz | anyways going back to my original point: in 1995 you didn't need to use NTserver | Jun 28 21:49 |
| cubexyz | that's just Microsoft FUD | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165959738249216 | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yANUV12YzT (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 28 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 28 21:49 |
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| cubexyz | in 1995 you could have used Redhat 1.0, or FreeBSD 2.0, or Ultrix 4.5 | Jun 28 21:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU #gnu #linux preloaded....' | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New Update...' | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 #chromeos...' | Jun 28 21:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/yANUV12YzT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 21:51 | |
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| cubexyz | heck, in 1991 you could buy an HP 9000 running HP-UX | Jun 28 21:52 |
| cubexyz | expensive though | Jun 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I put a fundraiser banner for the GNOME Foundation on my Facebook page. | Jun 28 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm comfortable with that now that Karen Sandler is gone. | Jun 28 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Blew all their money on "Outreach to Women"? How does that happen. I don't see any more women in Free Software after the outreach than before the outreach. | Jun 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Or software at all for that matter. | Jun 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile culture. It's like gaming. Well, gaming used to be more inclusive. Before the Video Game Crash of 1986, there were plenty of women in the gaming industry and female lead characters in the games and such. | Jun 28 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | After the crash, Nintendo decided to move their marketing from the electronics section to the toys department at stores. | Jun 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | But the toys department was segregated to a boy and a girl section. | Jun 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | So Nintendo chose the boy's section. Then they started advertising to boys. Then that spiraled into a bunch of overtly sexist video games and advertising in the 90s which never really stopped. | Jun 28 22:00 |
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| cubexyz | well NES Classic edition was popular | Jun 28 22:12 |
| cubexyz | playing NES games on the HDTV | Jun 28 22:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/880172315706839040 | Jun 28 22:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 22:13 |
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| cubexyz | proves that if a game is fun, its fun no matter what the graphics look like | Jun 28 22:14 |
| abeNd-org | have you tried the retro freak before? | Jun 28 22:15 |
| cubexyz | nintendo sold 2.3 million of the things | Jun 28 22:15 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.cybergadget.co.jp/retrofreak/en.html | Jun 28 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cybergadget.co.jp | Retro Freak｜Support 12 different types of retro game systems｜CYBER Gadget [ http://ur1.ca/r3m5p ] | Jun 28 22:15 | |
| cubexyz | I have not | Jun 28 22:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you speak of the #muslimBan with...' | Jun 28 22:17 | |
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| cubexyz | looks interesting though... I still have a bunch of sega genesis carts | Jun 28 22:17 |
| abeNd-org | yea, my wife who is really into retro gaming got one of those | Jun 28 22:18 |
| abeNd-org | don't have to have a zillion consoles hooked up now | Jun 28 22:18 |
| cubexyz | well I still play a few Loki games | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | I sold off all my consoles and I used to have almost everything: | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | 3DO, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, SNES, Turbographx-16 | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | even the neo-geo, which I kind of regret selling | Jun 28 22:20 |
| abeNd-org | yep, no need to have most of those consoles, just the games, & original (or remade usb/bluetooth) controllers | Jun 28 22:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it has HDMI connectors? | Jun 28 22:21 |
| cubexyz | yeah I see it does | Jun 28 22:22 |
| abeNd-org | yep, the little bit I have tried of it so far it worked pretty nice | Jun 28 22:23 |
| abeNd-org | i wish it had a ethernet port & could read off nfs/smb, but the little 64SDcard ive got should handle pretty much anything that could be thrown at the system | Jun 28 22:24 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't mind being able to use my old sega genesis controllers on the computer actually | Jun 28 22:26 |
| cubexyz | mame and that sort of thing | Jun 28 22:26 |
| abeNd-org | yea, there are usb adapters for all those retro controllers these days, or remade native usb/bluetooth ones | Jun 28 22:27 |
| abeNd-org | that retrofreak can use ps4 controllers even from what the latest update stated | Jun 28 22:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Support for Snaps | Jun 29 07:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/omZMZlzNiX (www.tuxmachines.org) #mate | Jun 29 07:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 29 07:05 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'd like to interject. | Jun 29 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | What you call Linux is actually Intel Management Engine/systemd/GNU/Linux. | Jun 29 07:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 29 07:14 |
| MinceR | 28 202620 < specing> I would like to interject for a moment. What you call systemd is in fact systemdumb, or, as I've started to call it system+dumb | Jun 29 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | The user should be the one deciding if they want a management engine running and what it is managing, but Intel has designed their processors to freeze up if the firmware for that isn't loaded. | Jun 29 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | systemd-kerneld is a much smaller problem than AMT | Jun 29 07:15 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/abRVh1x.jpg | Jun 29 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, GNOME going with Nvidia EGL support is a big fuck you to Free Software like Mesa. | Jun 29 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | How has FSF not kicked GNOME out yet? | Jun 29 07:22 |
| oiaohm | systemd comes about all due to ignoring defects and not mandating some solution that addresses those defects. | Jun 29 07:33 |
| oiaohm | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 this is classic what kind of test suite does systemd have. | Jun 29 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemd can't handle the process previlege that belongs to user name startswith number, such as 0day · Issue #6237 · systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r3t3s ] | Jun 29 07:36 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: the fsf stopped caring long ago | Jun 29 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Withholding Nvidia blob support from GNOME would have probably made Nvidia bother to implement support for GNOME themselves using the existing features. | Jun 29 07:42 |
| DaemonFC | Why do the heavy lifting for them when so much other stuff in GNOME needs attention? | Jun 29 07:42 |
| MinceR | nothing in gnome needs attention | Jun 29 07:43 |
| MinceR | it's a total waste of resources | Jun 29 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2028 | Jun 29 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam uses 'execheap' which according to expert ' is really a bad idea' · Issue #2028 · ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/r3t8i ] | Jun 29 07:44 | |
| DaemonFC | SELinux blocks it. | Jun 29 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | Really, Linux should just drop support for it and make developers fix their broken software. | Jun 29 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | Nothing in the games seems to crash if it gets denied this access, so I told the SELinux troubleshooter to just ignore it and keep blocking. | Jun 29 07:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm frankly shocked that instead of fixing mprotect to close off the vulnerabilities at their source, it's falling on SELinux to stop attacks. | Jun 29 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | With Steam it's not an attack. It's probably just some bogus usage done by some crap proprietary code. | Jun 29 08:03 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%5EX that execheap is a basic breach of this. | Jun 29 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | W^X - Wikipedia | Jun 29 08:32 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/06/26/3 with the different bits of memory hardening is going into mainline kernel is only a matter of time before its not just SELinux rejecting that crap. | Jun 29 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | kernel-hardening - [PATCH v7 0/3] ro protection for dynamic data [ http://ur1.ca/r3txh ] | Jun 29 08:38 | |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > I think you've seen this one already: | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > https://danielpocock.com/how-did-the-world-ever-work-without-facebook | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > I think he's come up with the best analogy so far about what Facebook, | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > Twitter and the others do: kettling | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > Because basically that's what shadow bans and similar blocks are doing. | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Operation timed out after 10001 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://danielpocock.com/how-did-the-world-ever-work-without-facebook ) | Jun 29 10:18 | |
| schestowitz | > By the way last I checked in Mastodon, your posts still weren't turning | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | > up in the hashtags when you use them. | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I saw that one an hour and had shared it even twice (because it's good) before you sent it to me. I also mailed it to Rianne. | Jun 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | Twitter unbanned me yesterday, after ALMOST A WEEK!! | Jun 29 10:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367210748948480 | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 11:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367402395021312 | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367696097026049 | Jun 29 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880368522236485632 | Jun 29 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 11:13 |
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| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6jtnb1/atms_in_ukraine_now_accepting_bitcoin/ | Jun 29 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ATM's in Ukraine now accepting Bitcoin! : Bitcoin | Jun 29 11:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 29 11:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880374918722060288 | Jun 29 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:40 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880375541362286592 | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI...' | Jun 29 11:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880375802487091200 | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 11:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880376022193098752 | Jun 29 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 11:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KoenP66 favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @KoenP66 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880376292952211456 | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvcJvRrpKQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:48 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378054740258816 | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE 17.10 | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/keb5d629oT (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #lnux | Jun 29 11:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Ubuntu Core, MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and Ubuntu MATE 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378479153381377 | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devices and #Android Leftovers: #µduino, “Fandom | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition”, #Amazon and #Netfront Browser | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UC2Mrexqhi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Android Leftovers: µduino, “Fandom Edition”, Amazon and Netfront Browser | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:54 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/astarrb/status/880170781841514496 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1701068 “motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's ...” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378982428028928 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL, | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenStack Webinar, #SDC 2017 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rSVsrc9CJK (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 29 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Summit Japan, SeaGL 2017, FLISoL, OpenStack Webinar, SDC 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880379475992743936 | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 11:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880380162495438849 | Jun 29 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 29 12:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381160777555969 | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#UbuntuMATE Software Boutique Package Manager Is Getting Support...' | Jun 29 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381708423639040 | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 12:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BobYelland retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, #Hyperledger...' | Jun 29 12:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE...' | Jun 29 12:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 12:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Snakku favourited 'Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL,...' | Jun 29 12:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Devices and #Android Leftovers: #µduino, “Fandom Edition”, #Amazon...' | Jun 29 12:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL,...' | Jun 29 12:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 12:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 12:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 12:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 29 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7pKB8WHVn8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 29 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389145578942465 | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 12:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389981277229056 | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i86amUirXt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880390905072689155 | Jun 29 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 29 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KbXQeMeqxM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 13:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 13:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/reddish2/status/880396412659302400 | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @reddish2 #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvcJvRrpKQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 13:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 13:04 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 13:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Is this what you call MAGA? Deals...' | Jun 29 13:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Is this what you call...' | Jun 29 13:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, #System76, and 2017...' | Jun 29 13:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Fake President can only tolerate Fake...' | Jun 29 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been screaming at...' | Jun 29 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been...' | Jun 29 14:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/29/fc9780aedb200975.mp4 | Jun 29 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | what is this? | Jun 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | patent trap? | Jun 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | seems like it's some dubious URL/domain | Jun 29 15:27 |
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| MinceR | not sure about patent status | Jun 29 15:30 |
| MinceR | but pr0gramm.com is hardly dubious | Jun 29 15:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 29 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880433554340986881 | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 15:32 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Grigortw retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, ok | Jun 29 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I saw this before | Jun 29 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | we watched it here last year | Jun 29 15:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880439786837880832 | Jun 29 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 16:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/880444184141942787 | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:14 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880450272690130946 | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based on Ubuntu and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 29 16:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880451142358118401 | Jun 29 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ihbMyDKC6W | Jun 29 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 29 16:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/880452595785101313 | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880457900652679168 | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FUD, Overhyped #Systemd Bug | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/2ZewUilqo4 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 17:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OutlawCountry, WatchGuard FUD, SambaCry FUD, Overhyped Systemd Bug | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry FUD, Overhyped #Systemd...' | Jun 29 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459389252935680 | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.11.8 and more | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #gpl | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 17:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.8 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459606908162049 | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.11.8 and more https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi #linux #kernel...' | Jun 29 17:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880460338705170434 | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @lucasoft_co_uk favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/880478632241745921 | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: What is Docker? Linux containers | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | explained https://t.co/tpVzyW5U7P (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vishne0/status/880489026792300545 | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vishne0 https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 19:21 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clouds | Jun 29 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clouds | Jun 29 19:28 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/tM3c9kI | Jun 29 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 29 19:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/W9AYcDZ | Jun 29 19:43 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's effort :) | Jun 29 19:45 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jun 29 19:46 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/WT7Sr | Jun 29 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New favorite twitter account: Effingbirds - Album on Imgur | Jun 29 19:57 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/TfLjK | Jun 29 20:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 20:51 | |
| MinceR | needs more punctuation in the name | Jun 29 20:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/pics/HmJ1b | Jun 29 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh, ok. I guess I'll just brush my teeth in the kitchen sink tonight. - Imgur | Jun 29 21:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-miserable-streak | Jun 29 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Miserable Streak | Jun 29 21:47 | |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/187 | Jun 29 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | It's Always Sunny in Paris - Existential Comics | Jun 29 21:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/880579238209957888 | Jun 30 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 30 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 30 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 30 01:22 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Did she ring him (too) with missiles...' | Jun 30 01:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Did she ring him (too)...' | Jun 30 01:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons out there,...' | Jun 30 01:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons...' | Jun 30 01:27 | |
| cubexyz | ok, another small update... | Jun 30 01:35 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Jun 30 01:35 |
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| cubexyz | evidently multi-function brother printers aren't ideal | Jun 30 01:44 |
| cubexyz | lots of proprietary nonsense to deal with there | Jun 30 01:44 |
| cubexyz | I avoid the dry-up inkjets | Jun 30 01:46 |
| cubexyz | some choices from thinkpenguin: | Jun 30 01:47 |
| cubexyz | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/printer-all-one-gnulinux | Jun 30 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Printers | ThinkPenguin.com | Jun 30 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/880583555482394624 | Jun 30 01:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 30 01:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vee_liang Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 30 01:53 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: do you still use your old HP laptop? | Jun 30 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Mine is from 2009 | Jun 30 01:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880591308355665922 | Jun 30 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone | Jun 30 01:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dRJJo7pcMR (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone | Tux Machines | Jun 30 01:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 01:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited '#Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone ...' | Jun 30 02:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Julian, I noticed and thought...' | Jun 30 02:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Julian, I noticed and thought today, why...' | Jun 30 02:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Nomad desktop – You’ll never walk alone ...' | Jun 30 02:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880594150990774272 | Jun 30 02:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Review: #IPFire as a home router | Jun 30 02:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FaEnzYcdNo (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 02:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #security | Jun 30 02:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: IPFire as a home router | Tux Machines | Jun 30 02:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Review: #IPFire as a home router https://t.co/FaEnzYcdNo ...' | Jun 30 02:12 | |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, yes | Jun 30 02:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880594937292763137 | Jun 30 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMDGPU -PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. #RadeonSI / #RADV | Jun 30 02:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H5vZt3uUTq (www.tuxmachines.org) #amd | Jun 30 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDGPU-PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. RadeonSI/RADV | Tux Machines | Jun 30 02:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 30 02:15 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.cubeman.org/linux-hardware.html | Jun 30 02:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cubeman.org | Linux Hardware | Jun 30 02:16 | |
| cubexyz | a bit out of date | Jun 30 02:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMDGPU -PRO 17.20 Benchmarking vs. #RadeonSI / #RADV...' | Jun 30 02:19 | |
| cubexyz | I put linux mint 18.1 on the hp nx9030 | Jun 30 02:19 |
| cubexyz | not really an ideal choice for a 1 gig ram machine | Jun 30 02:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880596492356112386 | Jun 30 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported | Jun 30 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Linux Releases | Jun 30 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gXiP7HBcmw (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 30 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported Ubuntu Linux Releases | Tux Machines | Jun 30 02:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel | Jun 30 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 02:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks It has been normalised - or taken...' | Jun 30 02:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 30 02:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 30 02:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 30 02:27 | |
| cubexyz | my amiga 500 turned 30 years old this year | Jun 30 02:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880598517772951552 | Jun 30 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite | Jun 30 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vLfEzpde8a (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 30 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat integrates Kubernetes in Red Hat Cloud Suite | Tux Machines | Jun 30 02:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 02:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DaveRaven72 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephenLSims retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You recently caused a lot of panic...' | Jun 30 02:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You recently caused a lot of panic...' | Jun 30 02:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You are also dangerously clueless on Korea...' | Jun 30 02:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You are also dangerously clueless...' | Jun 30 02:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MRO_Products/status/880604970466381828 | Jun 30 02:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite | Jun 30 02:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MRO_Products https://t.co/vLfEzpde8a (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 30 02:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 02:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 02:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sockeyes51_bot retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 02:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 03:07 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @iridesce57 favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 30 03:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880610210892656640 | Jun 30 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's | Jun 30 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Lair and More https://t.co/OpIwRcL3yO | Jun 30 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu #linux | Jun 30 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's Lair and More | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:18 | |
| schestowitz | [02:19] <cubexyz> not really an ideal choice for a 1 gig ram machine | Jun 30 03:19 |
| schestowitz | wow, just one? | Jun 30 03:19 |
| schestowitz | I have 2 | Jun 30 03:19 |
| schestowitz | and same on my previous workstation | Jun 30 03:19 |
| cubexyz | minimalism :) | Jun 30 03:19 |
| schestowitz | the one before that: 256mb | Jun 30 03:19 |
| cubexyz | this box I'm typing on has 256 megs | Jun 30 03:19 |
| schestowitz | which browser? | Jun 30 03:20 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the Web is now VERY bloated | Jun 30 03:20 |
| cubexyz | mostly dillo | Jun 30 03:20 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 30 03:20 |
| schestowitz | with proprietary fonts, videos.. | Jun 30 03:20 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Jun 30 03:20 |
| cubexyz | I use a bunch of different browsers... | Jun 30 03:20 |
| cubexyz | chromebooks for the latest chrome | Jun 30 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880611315307483136 | Jun 30 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, | Jun 30 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #OpenMP Suite https://t.co/iImYQRNrYr | Jun 30 03:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Linux on IBM Power, Platform9, Kubernetes, and OpenMP Suite | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #server #gnu #redhat | Jun 30 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:21 | |
| cubexyz | ff 16 on the vector box | Jun 30 03:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, and...' | Jun 30 03:21 | |
| schestowitz | is it safe still? | Jun 30 03:22 |
| schestowitz | some web pages can craft things | Jun 30 03:22 |
| schestowitz | esp. if you have JS running | Jun 30 03:22 |
| schestowitz | but even without that | Jun 30 03:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: EVERSPACE, Micro Machines World Series, Dragon's Lair...' | Jun 30 03:22 | |
| cubexyz | well the banks are starting to warn people not to use it for online banking | Jun 30 03:23 |
| cubexyz | also I don't use ff 16 for paypal | Jun 30 03:23 |
| cubexyz | and not for doing taxes | Jun 30 03:23 |
| cubexyz | other than that it's still ok | Jun 30 03:23 |
| cubexyz | I got chrome 56 on the slack box | Jun 30 03:24 |
| cubexyz | I'm not going to upgrade the vector box since it's got all the LGP development stuff and quite a number of the old loki games | Jun 30 03:25 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | Jun 30 03:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/880612577767829504 | Jun 30 03:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, | Jun 30 03:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot and #OpenMP Suite https://t.co/iImYQRNrYr | Jun 30 03:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #server #gnu #redhat | Jun 30 03:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:36 | |
| cubexyz | quite a lot of stuff actually got broken in KDE 3.5.10 | Jun 30 03:36 |
| cubexyz | but worked in KDE 3.4.2 | Jun 30 03:36 |
| cubexyz | no one ever talks about it now though | Jun 30 03:36 |
| cubexyz | possibly stuff was fixed in trinity, I'm not certain | Jun 30 03:37 |
| cubexyz | I think ksensors got orphaned | Jun 30 03:38 |
| cubexyz | it's not in KDE 4 as far as I know | Jun 30 03:39 |
| cubexyz | ended up just using lm-sensors on the slack box | Jun 30 03:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Canonical Outs Important Kernel Update for All Supported...' | Jun 30 03:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880617513255657473 | Jun 30 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in | Jun 30 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | North America https://t.co/PoZ4ptW3ka | Jun 30 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 03:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Rolls Out to Most Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in North America | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus...' | Jun 30 03:42 | |
| cubexyz | KDE doesn't have a good record of keeping things working :-/ | Jun 30 03:43 |
| cubexyz | kooka for example... I really liked it for scanning | Jun 30 03:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880617561800527872 | Jun 30 03:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus Vehicles in | Jun 30 03:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | North America https://t.co/PoZ4ptW3ka | Jun 30 03:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 03:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:45 | |
| schestowitz | [03:43] <cubexyz> kooka for example... I really liked it for scanning | Jun 30 03:45 |
| schestowitz | I can't even recall if I ever used it | Jun 30 03:46 |
| cubexyz | I was proud of the fact I wrote my own scanning program in the "old" days | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | reused library? | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly a GUI | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | like SimpleScan | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | there are back ends ready | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | you just need to plug them in | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | some scanning software allows rudimentary editing too, e.g. rotation | Jun 30 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I liked XSane | Jun 30 03:47 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Rolls Out to Most #Toyota and Lexus...' | Jun 30 03:47 | |
| cubexyz | no, you see kooka needed the old module to work | Jun 30 03:47 |
| cubexyz | e.g. kooka - hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | ah, familiar... | Jun 30 03:47 |
| cubexyz | e.g. kooka -d hp:/dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | same for some Palm OS software | Jun 30 03:47 |
| cubexyz | but now there's no /dev/usb/scanner0 | Jun 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | at some stage the underlying back end break | Jun 30 03:47 |
| schestowitz | and they can't quite get wired into the 'new' things | Jun 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | expect things to exacerbate with systemd | Jun 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | another age of digital obsolescence | Jun 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | "because PROGRESS!" | Jun 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | some software used to require alsa | Jun 30 03:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers: #Linux on #IBM Power, #Platform9, #Kubernetes, and...' | Jun 30 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | or OSS | Jun 30 03:48 |
| schestowitz | not sure how xmms would cope with pulseaudio now | Jun 30 03:49 |
| schestowitz | didn't try | Jun 30 03:49 |
| schestowitz | I think I tried back in the days and it failed | Jun 30 03:49 |
| cubexyz | on FC1 there used to be an LKM called "scanner" | Jun 30 03:49 |
| schestowitz | anyway, xmms is abandoned, had a successor | Jun 30 03:49 |
| cubexyz | of course that's long gone | Jun 30 03:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880619114406051844 | Jun 30 03:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard | Jun 30 03:49 |
| schestowitz | I miss xmms | Jun 30 03:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 30 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Boards: Orange Pi, Le Potato, and Liteboard | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | simply, light, nice themes I had for it... | Jun 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | I still have these on my backups | Jun 30 03:50 |
| cubexyz | I have xmms working on vector still | Jun 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | but not usable because GNU/Linux moved on.... not sure if the repos even have xmms2 | Jun 30 03:50 |
| cubexyz | mostly I just run mplayer at the command line | Jun 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | I use vlc these days | Jun 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | I like being able to play track ranges repeatedly | Jun 30 03:50 |
| schestowitz | I used to do that using the command line | Jun 30 03:51 |
| cubexyz | well, that's why I run openbsd on one box... I want to keep the traditional way of doing things | Jun 30 03:51 |
| schestowitz | with 'scripts' | Jun 30 03:51 |
| cubexyz | at least on one machine | Jun 30 03:51 |
| cubexyz | but universality is impossible | Jun 30 03:51 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 #gnu...' | Jun 30 03:51 | |
| cubexyz | I can test all my programs on everything, but no one else will | Jun 30 03:52 |
| cubexyz | my scanner program also will not work on modern linux | Jun 30 03:52 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~/Main/Programs/Scripts$ cat seekplay.sh | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volO/DJ%20Riko%20-%20Merry%20Mixmas%202004.mp3 -ss 0:40 & | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 200 | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | killall mplayer | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volL/Larry-Heard_Disco.mp3 -ss 33:55 & | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 150 | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | killall mplayer | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | mplayer /media/disk-4/Music/volF/Massive%20Attack%20-%20Essential%20Mix.mp3 -ss 2:20 & | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | sleep 150 | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | to give you an example | Jun 30 03:53 |
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| schestowitz | but as you can see, the killall command doesn't make it exactly 'clean' | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | it worked at the time | Jun 30 03:53 |
| cubexyz | why not just use pkill mplayer ? | Jun 30 03:53 |
| cubexyz | I suppose it's probably the same | Jun 30 03:53 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say it was clean, just quick and dirty | Jun 30 03:54 |
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| cubexyz | now it's this: | Jun 30 03:56 |
| cubexyz | xscanimage rts8891:libusb:005:002 | Jun 30 03:56 |
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| cubexyz | there's two levels of obfuscation :-/ | Jun 30 03:56 |
| cubexyz | first the device name (that's bad enough) | Jun 30 03:57 |
| cubexyz | but the stupid chip rts8891 is a secret | Jun 30 03:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'GNU/Linux Boards: #OrangePi, #LePotato, and #Liteboard https://t.co/8wQxjJieM5 #gnu...' | Jun 30 03:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Boards: Orange Pi, Le Potato, and Liteboard | Tux Machines | Jun 30 03:57 | |
| cubexyz | I really blame HP for that | Jun 30 03:58 |
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| cubexyz | but now the complete truth of just how crappy the situation is... | Jun 30 03:59 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/hp-scanner-mail.txt | Jun 30 03:59 |
| cubexyz | you can't replace the scanner glass or the calibration strip | Jun 30 04:00 |
| schestowitz | they're treated like disposabels | Jun 30 04:00 |
| schestowitz | they're treated like disposables | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Nowdays it's hard to find scanners | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | they always come connected to a printer | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | so they can milk you with toner bills | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | and many people use their 'smart' phones to 'scan' things | Jun 30 04:01 |
| cubexyz | officejets are probably combined | Jun 30 04:01 |
| cubexyz | that's what HP sells now | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Our printer came with a scanner that we never used | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | for years | Jun 30 04:01 |
| schestowitz | I have a standalone HP scanner from 16 years ago | Jun 30 04:02 |
| schestowitz | still worked when I last tried it in 2011 | Jun 30 04:02 |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 30 04:02 |
| cubexyz | which one? | Jun 30 04:02 |
| schestowitz | you won't find top-desk scanners anymore, or will struggle in high-street shops | Jun 30 04:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't remember which model I have | Jun 30 04:02 |
| schestowitz | HP something :-) | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | they use silly numbers | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | not even names | Jun 30 04:03 |
| cubexyz | well, if it's a 4470c you're in luck | Jun 30 04:03 |
| cubexyz | I spent years studying those | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | I got mine VERY cheap | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | about 20 bucks | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | because I worked in a computer shop | Jun 30 04:03 |
| schestowitz | someone bought a printer/scanner bundle | Jun 30 04:04 |
| cubexyz | I'd buy a NOS one in a second | Jun 30 04:04 |
| schestowitz | but chose not to pick the scanner | Jun 30 04:04 |
| cubexyz | I use a scanner almost every day | Jun 30 04:04 |
| cubexyz | I can't believe HP doesn't make a flatbed scanner | Jun 30 04:05 |
| cubexyz | ok, there's the HP scanjet pro 2500 | Jun 30 04:05 |
| cubexyz | ok, more bad news :-/ | Jun 30 04:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe only expensive ones | Jun 30 04:07 |
| schestowitz | with high premium for offices and such | Jun 30 04:07 |
| schestowitz | the business models changed | Jun 30 04:07 |
| cubexyz | one ubuntu person is using windows in a VM | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | I remember, when we worked at the shop, how the first scanner/printer arrived | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | they sold these as "copying machines" or fax | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | "combo" | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | and if one broke, the whole machine broke | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | not exactly a desirable thing, harder to repair too | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | they were very expensive at the start | Jun 30 04:08 |
| schestowitz | around 2001 | Jun 30 04:09 |
| cubexyz | yes, and before that also | Jun 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz | I first saw it in my summer job | Jun 30 04:09 |
| cubexyz | I sold scanners in the mid-1990s, the HP ones were quite expensive | Jun 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz | after first year in university, IIRC | Jun 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz | The days os iPaq | Jun 30 04:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Windows on Compaq | Jun 30 04:09 |
| cubexyz | the bad old days :-/ | Jun 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz | it was so heavy | Jun 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz | Hehe, when Microsoft DID have some presence in mobile | Jun 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz | so you could you a very retarded version of 'Office' to write some bloated crap in proprietary formats | Jun 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux is now more widely used than Windows | Jun 30 04:10 |
| schestowitz | so Microsoft generally bothers me less | Jun 30 04:11 |
| cubexyz | things have been awful for a long time | Jun 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880621305858580481 | Jun 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/5hZe76b0SJ | Jun 30 04:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 30 04:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 30 04:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 04:11 | |
| cubexyz | scanner status is _still_ bad | Jun 30 04:11 |
| schestowitz | NSA sabotaged tech | Jun 30 04:12 |
| cubexyz | HP had a perfectly good protocol for scanners called SCL | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | it's moving toward what serves "powers that be" | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Social CONTROL networks | Jun 30 04:12 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Lack of site diversity on the Web | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | More and more JS | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | spying | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | DRM ... now on the Web | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | UEFI | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | TPM | Jun 30 04:12 |
| schestowitz | all sorts of restrictions and "apps' that use camera, microphone... | Jun 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz | So generally, to understand how tech will evolved... | Jun 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz | think along the lines of... | Jun 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz | if you are some rich MS executive of Pentagon bigwig | Jun 30 04:13 |
| cubexyz | understanding of tech is decreasing though | Jun 30 04:13 |
| cubexyz | due to obfuscation | Jun 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz | what would you explore, fund, give VC money to? | Jun 30 04:13 |
| schestowitz | They gave money to Google Earth | Jun 30 04:14 |
| schestowitz | Which turned Google Maps into worldwide CCTV | Jun 30 04:14 |
| schestowitz | Except where nations like China were clever enough to say "No!" | Jun 30 04:14 |
| schestowitz | money and power | Jun 30 04:14 |
| schestowitz | interchangeable | Jun 30 04:14 |
| schestowitz | So those with the money and not so much power help the powerful, e.g. by giving them more power, e.g. over mobos (ME) | Jun 30 04:15 |
| schestowitz | and they reciprocate | Jun 30 04:15 |
| schestowitz | the "customers" or "consumers" are "collateral damage" | Jun 30 04:15 |
| schestowitz | HP is among those that puts yellow pale dots on printed pages | Jun 30 04:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/5hZe76b0SJ #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | Jun 30 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 30 04:16 | |
| schestowitz | to help identify who printed what and when | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | no benefit to the customer there | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | just waste of ink | Jun 30 04:16 |
| cubexyz | on with my printer :) | Jun 30 04:16 |
| cubexyz | of course, it's 20 years old | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | and it's not documented how to read/interpret these dots, only the spies have the encoding documented | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | no benefit to customers! | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | At all! | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | They just pay more for ink | Jun 30 04:16 |
| schestowitz | And I don't think they consent to it in the EULA | Jun 30 04:17 |
| schestowitz | Because "national security" and all... | Jun 30 04:17 |
| cubexyz | you could write your own printing program... or is this in the firmware? | Jun 30 04:17 |
| cubexyz | I assume if you cat out a text file it doesn't print the dots | Jun 30 04:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the dots on page and other methods of hidden model and serial number on page of printers is in the printers firmware. | Jun 30 04:19 |
| cubexyz | I assume you could write your own printer firmware :-P | Jun 30 04:20 |
| cubexyz | what so you print out ASCII text you get yellow dots? | Jun 30 04:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have for a x/y plotter. | Jun 30 04:20 |
| schestowitz | plotters :-) | Jun 30 04:21 |
| cubexyz | oh a plotter | Jun 30 04:21 |
| schestowitz | my friend's dad had one... did lots of CAD for a living. Do any of these still work? | Jun 30 04:21 |
| schestowitz | mechanically, I'd imagine many are knackered, never mind driver support | Jun 30 04:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: laser cutter/water cutter are both just over grown plotters. | Jun 30 04:22 |
| cubexyz | can you fix it? that's the real question | Jun 30 04:22 |
| cubexyz | yeah, probably not, but sometimes one can fix things | Jun 30 04:23 |
| cubexyz | I bet they messed up the plotter protocol too | Jun 30 04:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZ_Qpv328o really plotters are easy to fix. Most laser cutter and water cutters you can rip the controller board out and put a open source controller board in. | Jun 30 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to make an OpenSource Vertical Plotter - YouTube | Jun 30 04:24 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: if it a colour printer you can suspect some form of dots or printer id encoding. Printing ASCII text some of these printer are not smart enough to tell the difference. | Jun 30 04:26 |
| cubexyz | making a scanner sounds interesting | Jun 30 04:26 |
| cubexyz | I know that the older scanners used mirrors to stretch the 2" CCD to 8.5" | Jun 30 04:29 |
| oiaohm | https://linearbookscanner.org/ it would be useful if there was a generic scanner core | Jun 30 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linearbookscanner.org | Linear Book Scanner - The open-source automatic book scanner | Jun 30 04:30 | |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 30 04:31 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: plotters are easy. Dot matrix/injets/laser get into the camp of hard. | Jun 30 04:32 |
| cubexyz | there's lots of HP NOS scanners on ebay | Jun 30 04:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: more lazer cutters and water cutters you see maker having the selling point open source firmware. | Jun 30 04:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: after deaths and other things caused by malfunctions some places will not touch a laser/water cutter without open source firmware. | Jun 30 04:33 |
| cubexyz | yes, I see what the deal is with the tracking dots now | Jun 30 04:35 |
| cubexyz | so the output is forensically traceable... tricky | Jun 30 04:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: please remember tracking dots are not just printers it photocopiers and the like as well. | Jun 30 04:37 |
| cubexyz | so when did this stuff first appear? | Jun 30 04:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: we don't really know. | Jun 30 04:39 |
| cubexyz | my HP laserjet 5N is from 1997 | Jun 30 04:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880631690686853120 | Jun 30 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, | Jun 30 04:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Sonatype, and #Petya #Ransomware https://t.co/cnsyskCKcc | Jun 30 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Security updates, Systemd, Sonatype, and Petya Ransomware | Tux Machines | Jun 30 04:40 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography it appeared some time in the 1990s | Jun 30 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Printer steganography - Wikipedia | Jun 30 04:41 | |
| cubexyz | what about black/white printers? | Jun 30 04:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation what to make a document hard to photocopy. | Jun 30 04:42 |
| cubexyz | they can't print yellow | Jun 30 04:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | EURion constellation - Wikipedia | Jun 30 04:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @InfoSecurity99 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, #Sonatype, and #Petya...' | Jun 30 04:42 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: problem here is the yellow dots are detectable so we know about it. | Jun 30 04:42 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security Leftovers: #Security updates, #Systemd, #Sonatype, and #Petya...' | Jun 30 04:43 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: would it be possible to use a different form of stenography to hide the information while only black and white yes. Do we know if they are doing this or not no we don't. | Jun 30 04:45 |
| cubexyz | hey, I'm only printing black and white and my yellow cartridge seems to evaporate :) | Jun 30 04:48 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yep a reason why if you print mostly black and white own a black and white printer. | Jun 30 04:50 |
| cubexyz | well one guy is saying AFAIK B&W laser printers don't contain tracking codes | Jun 30 04:51 |
| oiaohm | Don't contain yellow dots. Because they cannot. | Jun 30 04:53 |
| cubexyz | if it's obstensibly to track counterfeit money then it's kind of pointless | Jun 30 04:53 |
| cubexyz | money is not black and white | Jun 30 04:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not exactly right. | Jun 30 04:55 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearer_bond | Jun 30 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bearer bond - Wikipedia | Jun 30 04:55 | |
| cubexyz | I'd say that's sepia colour with a red number stamped on it | Jun 30 04:56 |
| cubexyz | and a purple one :) | Jun 30 04:57 |
| cubexyz | still, it's close to mono-coloured | Jun 30 04:58 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not all bearer bonds from all countries are coloured. | Jun 30 04:58 |
| oiaohm | All are stamped somehow. | Jun 30 04:58 |
| oiaohm | Really bank notes/currency are really just a more fancy form of a bearer bond | Jun 30 04:59 |
| cubexyz | do they use polymer notes in Australia now? | Jun 30 05:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @carlo_rios @tuxmachines @Jay7t #odf | Jun 30 05:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #libreoffice | Jun 30 05:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Boards: Orange Pi, Le Potato, and Liteboard | Tux Machines | Jun 30 05:00 | |
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| cubexyz | that would make counterfeiting pretty hard | Jun 30 05:00 |
| cubexyz | oh looks like they do | Jun 30 05:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: our polymer notes have been counterfieted a few times. | Jun 30 05:03 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2016/04/12/new-5-australian-note-vomit-and-hideous So far look is bad no one has worked out how to copy this one yet. | Jun 30 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sbs.com.au | New $5 Australian note is 'vomit-like' and 'hideous' | SBS Your Language | Jun 30 05:06 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: there is a tilt angle image in the note that give the appearance of a humming bird flapping it wings. | Jun 30 05:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the old 5 dollar bill had a laugh of a problem one side is the a fairly good blue print of the current parliament house | Jun 30 05:12 |
| cubexyz | some canadian 5 dollar bills got "spocked" | Jun 30 05:12 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_five-dollar_note#/media/File:Wilfrid_Laurier_in_1907_%28Spocked%29.JPG | Jun 30 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Canadian five-dollar note - Wikipedia | Jun 30 05:12 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://currencyguide.eu/aud-en/5aud-en.html 2014/2015 78 counterfeit Australian 5 dollar bills were detected so the bill is been redesigned because it was not hard enough. | Jun 30 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-currencyguide.eu | Australian 5 dollar note - Counterfeit money detection: know how | Jun 30 05:13 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the new bill is going to be a up hill battle to fake. | Jun 30 05:13 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: polymer + multi direction images that can be quickly checked make a really hard to copy note. | Jun 30 05:15 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the first counterfieted australia notes were done poorly using overhead projector plastic. | Jun 30 05:16 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: first counterfeited polymer notes to be correct. | Jun 30 05:17 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so polymer is only part of solution. | Jun 30 05:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @baseanswers https://twitter.com/eniogemmo/status/880651640839208960 | Jun 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The latest ODF(tm) World News! https://t.co/CW5o0x1osE | Jun 30 06:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @eniogemmo (paper.li) Thanks to @carlo_rios @tuxmachines @Jay7t #odf | Jun 30 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | ODF™ World News | Jun 30 06:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #libreoffice | Jun 30 06:20 |
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| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/189 | Jun 30 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Pythagoreans - Existential Comics | Jun 30 06:23 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/31/surveillance_law_compulsion/ | Jun 30 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | UK surveillance law raises concerns security researchers could be 'deputised' by the state • The Register | Jun 30 06:44 | |
| cubexyz | I didn't know the pythagoreans killed people | Jun 30 06:49 |
| cubexyz | and don't watch too much tv: | Jun 30 06:51 |
| cubexyz | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/178 | Jun 30 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Door to Door Existentialism - Existential Comics | Jun 30 06:52 | |
| cubexyz | hmm, they messed up the perspective in that one | Jun 30 06:52 |
| MinceR | the author got a graphician since then | Jun 30 06:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880677908834119680 | Jun 30 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in Techrights https://t.co/O4Na373Fov | Jun 30 07:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Fujitsu and #SUSE, Packages Updates in #Tumbleweed | Jun 30 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4eeiKqR2KK (www.tuxmachines.org) #opensuse | Jun 30 07:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fujitsu and SUSE, Packages Updates in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines | Jun 30 07:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fujitsu and #SUSE, Packages Updates in #Tumbleweed ...' | Jun 30 07:53 | |
| DaemonFC | Installed Linux 4.11.8. Not too many patches that affect my computer this time. Maybe a few bugs, but it also closes a couple of potential security vulnerabilities. | Jun 30 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Fujitsu and #SUSE, Packages Updates in #Tumbleweed | Jun 30 08:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 30 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 30 09:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880700170706595840 | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #Microsoft #Windows as Attack Vector and More | Jun 30 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Microsoft Windows as Attack Vector and More | Tux Machines | Jun 30 09:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 30 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880713611831889920 | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out https://t.co/KQ5Bx0uDNp (www.tuxmachines.org) #nhs | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu... https://t.co/KjjSLc3cUk | Jun 30 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS Windows take out | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://w... | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KOBYzC6IcF #android #linux' | Jun 30 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9544799 | Jun 30 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/102521 #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #uk #nhsubuntu #freedom #security | Jun 30 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | good news.... | Jun 30 10:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take...' | Jun 30 10:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880714526987079680 | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrfusNvZtw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender3d #freesw #gnu #linux #art #nl | Jun 30 10:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/29/15892658/microsoft-windows-10-controlled-folders-feature | Jun 30 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Windows 10 will hide your important files from ransomware soon - The Verge | Jun 30 10:12 | |
| DaemonFC | "unfriendly applications" -Windows | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Carlin was still alive, he could add it to his soft language routine. | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's not malware that installs itself because you visited a web page. It's an "unfriendly application". | Jun 30 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880715211216498691 | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | *Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flavors, Here's What's New | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SdsIp1Uzjc (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 (Artful Aardvark) Out for Opt-in Flavors, Here's What's New | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Anyway, let's see how long that holds up before the malware figures out how to inject itself into a "trusted application". | Jun 30 10:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware Malware is a generic term. | Jun 30 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, Microsoft will bless their own software and lock out competitors. Want to use LibreOffice but limit access to the folder? Tough noogies! | Jun 30 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware ) | Jun 30 10:15 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: unfriendly application does not cover a script/active content.... Must be an binary executable. | Jun 30 10:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for...' | Jun 30 10:16 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: might be a more correct term but for most general users it just confuses them. | Jun 30 10:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jun 30 10:18 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox really windows 10 controlled folder feature is partly what flatpak is working in the direction of. | Jun 30 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub | Jun 30 10:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880717159164411905 | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #OpenSecurityController @LinuxFoundation | Jun 30 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernels and Linux Foundation Efforts | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880717734719475713 | Jun 30 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, #Keysign, and #GNOMEFoundation Statement | Jun 30 10:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/C1rMIb17LU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 30 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Builder, Keysign, and GNOME Foundation Statement on Immigration Ban | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:23 | |
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| schestowitz | all: | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> It'll be quiet soon. I'll catch up with uspto drafts then... | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Great. | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > In Europe, for obtuse types like myself, can one of the EPO articles | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > provide a concise summary of why the staff are on strike? | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > By the way, this showed up: | Jun 30 10:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR #linux...' | Jun 30 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Last not least, its clear to some of us since years now | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > that these lads want to restrict ABI access and build a | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > full vertical stack that puts a machine completely | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > under systemd's control from its boot - a sort of | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > revamp of the "trusted computing" weird techno-fascist | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > dream | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Before you think I'm crazy in writing what I wrote, | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > please have a look at the US patent 20150040216-A1 | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > "Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Interfaces" filed by Paul Moore, Dan Walsh and Lennart | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Poettering on behalf of Red Hat inc. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170630.070231.3eff71f4.en.html | Jun 30 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance! | Jun 30 10:25 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.google.com/patents/US20150040216 | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > That patent supports the possibility I suggested years ago that systemd | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > aims to become a vehicle for DRM in Linux. Since Torvalds opposes DRM | Jun 30 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent US20150040216 - Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary Interfaces - Google Patents | Jun 30 10:25 | |
| schestowitz | > and he still controls the kernel despite some people's efforts, they | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to go around him and insert themselves between userspace and the | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > kernel. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Red Hat seems to be making good on the threats M$ put forth in the | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Halloween documents about decommoditizing the software. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I will share this in IRC and see if someone has additional input | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oiaohm : systemd ^? | Jun 30 10:25 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp that patent is the seccomp-bpf patent. | Jun 30 10:29 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://lwn.net/Articles/475019/ I do question how valid that patent is for historic reasons. | Jun 30 10:34 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: sandboxing syscalls was not exactly new. http://subterfugue.org/ userspace implementation of it from 2001 and before that had defects. | Jun 30 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-subterfugue.org | SUBTERFUGUE | Jun 30 10:38 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so really is another knee jerk redhat who has not read history of the features. What is covered by that patent was doable without kernel features. Kernel features make it work without the massive number of strange failures. | Jun 30 10:41 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/als15_manolov.pdf really if you want a feature that does not look like sandboxing and looked a lot like Digital rights management you would not be looking past IMA. | Jun 30 10:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: as with all things in software a lot of things have more than 1 use. | Jun 30 10:45 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: fair enough | Jun 30 10:52 |
| MinceR | yet another reason to distrust ratcrap and avoid letting them have power over our infrastructure | Jun 30 10:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/880723255870586880 | Jun 30 10:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that patent the person used for the base of their argument is standard sand-boxing. Really your straight up distrust Redhat clouds your judgement. A person argue over it redhat should have that patent due to prior art and the google authors name not on the patent would be real issue. | Jun 30 11:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my point of view the prior art is not redhat so redhat should not have that patent. | Jun 30 11:01 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the patent was not about Digital rights mangement. Some of the IMA patents do read a lot more like DRM. | Jun 30 11:02 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: i'm not installing your malware. deal with it. | Jun 30 11:06 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: sandboxing methods are one of the control solutions against malware. | Jun 30 11:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i don't want cancerd, even in a sandbox, if i can help it. | Jun 30 11:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the technology has to be developed and tested by something. The bpf secomp stuff that end up linked to containers could out of chrome/chromuim OS and Android work and a little systemd. | Jun 30 11:29 |
| oiaohm | https://www.linux.com/blog/top-10-developers-and-companies-contributing-linux-kernel-2015-2016 absolutely avoiding redhat work and using the Linux kernel is impossible. | Jun 30 11:33 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there has to be a point of realistic look at what redhat is doing and working out what is good and bad out of what they are doing. | Jun 30 11:33 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you still don't see the conflict between the concepts of "testing" and "stable release"? | Jun 30 11:34 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: "there has to be a point of realistic look at what microsoft is doing and working out what is good and bad out of what they are doing." | Jun 30 11:34 |
| MinceR | sure is! it's just that i don't have the time for that | Jun 30 11:34 |
| MinceR | i especially don't have the time to audit all of cancerd. | Jun 30 11:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I don't see the conflit the way you are because sysvinit never in fact had a full formal stable release. | Jun 30 11:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it was replacing one bit of testing quality software with another bit of testing quality software. Yes why sysvinit had a huge number of bugs it it was not stable. | Jun 30 11:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: please keep your equivocation to someone who cares for it. | Jun 30 11:36 |
| oiaohm | The parts are were using with sysvinit were not properly audited either. | Jun 30 11:37 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, let me guess -- you also don't understand the conflict between "testing" and "forcing stuff on other distributions and their users" | Jun 30 11:37 |
| MinceR | sysvinit is demonstrably, objectively far smaller than cancerd, therefore far less costly to audit | Jun 30 11:37 |
| oiaohm | That is a problem. Embedded conference covered that very point. | Jun 30 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Turns out sysvinit script system is heavier to audit than systemd in lines of code that need auditing. | Jun 30 11:39 |
| oiaohm | So that arguement you just made is bogus. | Jun 30 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Of course most stuff is never properly formally audited. | Jun 30 11:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 11:40 |
| oiaohm | Systemd would not be half the mess it is if formal auditing like sel4 does was mandated. | Jun 30 11:40 |
| MinceR | now you're just plain bullshitting | Jun 30 11:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no I am not bullshitting. | Jun 30 11:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: most people fail to include auditing the shell script engine. | Jun 30 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: with their sysvinit numbers. | Jun 30 11:41 |
| MinceR | there is no "shell script engine" in sysvinit. | Jun 30 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it does not work without it. | Jun 30 11:41 |
| MinceR | prove that. | Jun 30 11:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you can boot sysvinit with /bin/sh removed? | Jun 30 11:42 |
| MinceR | sure can | Jun 30 11:42 |
| MinceR | not that i'd want to | Jun 30 11:42 |
| oiaohm | funny the default shell scripts asked for that. | Jun 30 11:42 |
| MinceR | i'm not the one with a crippling fear of shell scripting | Jun 30 11:42 |
| MinceR | what default shell scripts? | Jun 30 11:42 |
| oiaohm | In the sysvinit package. | Jun 30 11:43 |
| MinceR | i guess you mean rc, then | Jun 30 11:43 |
| MinceR | which is not init, of course | Jun 30 11:43 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit includes the rc. Its not just init. | Jun 30 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Never was. | Jun 30 11:43 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 30 11:44 |
| MinceR | so in oiaohm's world, sysvinit is "not just init", but systemd is just an "init system" | Jun 30 11:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what drugs are you on? | Jun 30 11:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sysvinit define is init and basic service management | Jun 30 11:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: by it own manuals | Jun 30 11:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not that I am on drugs I have read what is meant to provided by sysvinit by it own manuals. | Jun 30 11:45 |
| MinceR | the sysvinit process can do rudimentary service management | Jun 30 11:46 |
| MinceR | in practice it's only used for getty-s, iirc | Jun 30 11:46 |
| MinceR | not sure how much triggering rc would count there | Jun 30 11:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: part of a make install of sysvinit installs your basic shared functions and init.d and rc directories. | Jun 30 11:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so all that stuff is part of the sysvinit package. | Jun 30 11:48 |
| MinceR | since when does an audit care about how a particular distro packages software? | Jun 30 11:49 |
| MinceR | i guess that's also why you wouldn't audit glibc when considering cancerd :> | Jun 30 11:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is not distribution packaging that is how upstream gnu and sysv packaged sysvinit. | Jun 30 11:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: http://git.suckless.org/sinit/tree/ If you are talking about something that is just a init you would be talking about something like this. | Jun 30 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.suckless.org | sinit - suckless init | Jun 30 11:50 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality is sysvinit is a init + extras and always has been. | Jun 30 11:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i've got bad news for you -- the official systemd source code includes shell scripts | Jun 30 11:51 |
| MinceR | and yes, i do (in theory) prefer simpler inits to sysvinit | Jun 30 11:51 |
| MinceR | but none of this bullshitting can make sysvinit approach the bloat of cancerd | Jun 30 11:51 |
| oiaohm | The service management side of sysvinit has been a living disaster that has need a rework for years. | Jun 30 11:54 |
| oiaohm | In fact decades. | Jun 30 11:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: at embedded developer worked up what was required to be audited for full functional system using systemd and sysvinit. It was kinda shocking how big sysvinit was with all the independant fragments pulled in. | Jun 30 11:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it's a pity that in your favorite pet project, it's exactly the "work" that's missing | Jun 30 11:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, then don't look at cancerd's requirements -- they may shock you | Jun 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | They did look at the systemd requirements. | Jun 30 11:57 |
| MinceR | with closed eyes, like you? | Jun 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | This was a pure compare. | Jun 30 11:57 |
| MinceR | funny, i didn't know they had embedded "developer"s at redhat | Jun 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Something you have never done. | Jun 30 11:57 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure it was | Jun 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | No this was no redhat. | Jun 30 11:58 |
| oiaohm | This was the guy who found that journald could be removed. | Jun 30 11:58 |
| oiaohm | even that the systemd documentaiton did not mention it clearly. | Jun 30 11:58 |
| MinceR | i found something else: the rest of cancerd could be removed too | Jun 30 11:58 |
| MinceR | lol, "systemd documentation" | Jun 30 11:58 |
| oiaohm | It was in fact mentioned. | Jun 30 11:58 |
| oiaohm | Just poorly worded. | Jun 30 11:59 |
| MinceR | did you expect poorly written code come with well-worded documentation? | Jun 30 11:59 |
| MinceR | s/come/to come/ | Jun 30 11:59 |
| oiaohm | That is what is so strange about systemd. It as very well written specifications in documentation then no tools using those specifications to audit the code made. | Jun 30 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Normally well written specifications equals quality code and systemd manages to prove that wrong. | Jun 30 12:00 |
| MinceR | how do they specify its scope? | Jun 30 12:01 |
| oiaohm | They specific the scope of each program in systemd. They openly worded the specification of the complete project to contain everything required to boot and manage services. | Jun 30 12:02 |
| MinceR | one of the shell scripts that come with systemd also uses awk | Jun 30 12:02 |
| MinceR | so you also get to audit awk | Jun 30 12:02 |
| oiaohm | They did fail to include shutdown in the specification. | Jun 30 12:02 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 12:02 |
| oiaohm | In the first versions. | Jun 30 12:02 |
| oiaohm | So yes those systemd failures to shutdown was in fact to the written specification. | Jun 30 12:03 |
| MinceR | so they did specify a scope, but did not follow it | Jun 30 12:03 |
| MinceR | systemd does many things that do not fit in "everything required to boot and manage services." | Jun 30 12:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: manage services end up insanely broad. | Jun 30 12:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: name something you think is not under that define. | Jun 30 12:05 |
| MinceR | no, not normally | Jun 30 12:05 |
| MinceR | only if it's your excuse for trying to take over everything. | Jun 30 12:06 |
| oiaohm | udev starts services in response to devices being connected. This magically end up as excuse to be in systemd. | Jun 30 12:06 |
| MinceR | examples that don't fit: ntp client, dns cache | Jun 30 12:06 |
| MinceR | web server | Jun 30 12:07 |
| MinceR | firewall | Jun 30 12:07 |
| MinceR | container provisioner | Jun 30 12:07 |
| oiaohm | container provisioner is under service management directly so you know if your services are a live or dead. | Jun 30 12:08 |
| MinceR | then the container should be a service | Jun 30 12:08 |
| MinceR | not part of the service manager | Jun 30 12:08 |
| MinceR | if you confuse services with the service manager, of course everything will end up being in scope | Jun 30 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Note they did not write service manager. They wrote manage services | Jun 30 12:09 |
| MinceR | so now that you're out of arguments, you start mincing words | Jun 30 12:09 |
| oiaohm | No this is the wording of the systemd specification. Is not the web server in there to provide a web interface to control services? | Jun 30 12:10 |
| MinceR | no, to read logs | Jun 30 12:10 |
| MinceR | (which is also ludicrous) | Jun 30 12:10 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: I was thinking cockpit. | Jun 30 12:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.service.html you are refering to this right. | Jun 30 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | systemd-journal-gatewayd.service | Jun 30 12:13 | |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 30 12:13 |
| MinceR | is cockpit a part of systemd? | Jun 30 12:14 |
| oiaohm | It was to be merged and one point. Some parts made it. | Jun 30 12:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 12:14 |
| MinceR | so that makes 2 web servers in systemd | Jun 30 12:14 |
| MinceR | are there any more web servers in there? | Jun 30 12:14 |
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| oiaohm | That journal log by http/https comes from cockpit. | Jun 30 12:15 |
| oiaohm | there is in fact a valid reason for it. | Jun 30 12:15 |
| MinceR | sure there is | Jun 30 12:15 |
| oiaohm | A valid data security reason. | Jun 30 12:15 |
| MinceR | i always wanted my "init system" to have a web server built into it | Jun 30 12:15 |
| MinceR | if it has several built in, that's even better | Jun 30 12:15 |
| oiaohm | What is the odds that tcp will miss a bad packet due to its checksum method. | Jun 30 12:16 |
| MinceR | pretty damn low | Jun 30 12:16 |
| MinceR | but i guess tcp was Not Invented Here, so we'll eventually have poettering reinvent it | Jun 30 12:16 |
| oiaohm | 1 in 2^16 failure rate. | Jun 30 12:17 |
| MinceR | and of course if i use ssh or sftp to access logs, that adds its own integrity checking | Jun 30 12:17 |
| oiaohm | http/https can both use MD5, SHA1, SHA 256 lot lower miss of bad packet. | Jun 30 12:17 |
| MinceR | they can also use many other algorithms | Jun 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | another funny thing: https://serverfault.com/questions/755818/systemd-using-4gb-ram-after-18-days-of-uptime | Jun 30 12:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: so that webserver on the logs if it solid made does make some sense. | Jun 30 12:18 |
| MinceR | no, it does not | Jun 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | i bet pretty much any webserver that wasn't written by poettering is far more robust | Jun 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | that was the case with the other gratuitous functionality like ntp and dns as well | Jun 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | surprise, surprise: poettering is not an expert at ntp or dns either | Jun 30 12:19 |
| MinceR | chances are he's also not an expert at http or tls/ssl | Jun 30 12:20 |
| MinceR | and before you start attacking my words: specifically consider lighttpd, apache | Jun 30 12:21 |
| MinceR | nginx | Jun 30 12:21 |
| oiaohm | http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/tutorials/tls_cert_summary.html tls/ssl for anything doing remote logging to have better chksumming that tcp had been common. | Jun 30 12:21 |
| MinceR | maybe even thttpd | Jun 30 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Encrypting Syslog Traffic with TLS (SSL) — rsyslog 8.28.0 documentation | Jun 30 12:21 | |
| MinceR | yeah, so? | Jun 30 12:21 |
| MinceR | tls/ssl works fine without http | Jun 30 12:21 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said some sense not meaning absolute sense. | Jun 30 12:21 |
| MinceR | nothing is absolute | Jun 30 12:22 |
| oiaohm | http part was optional the tls not so much. | Jun 30 12:22 |
| MinceR | there is no technology that will guarantee hardware or software to function perfectly well with a probability of 1 | Jun 30 12:22 |
| MinceR | we were talking about the folly of building a web server into an "init system", though | Jun 30 12:22 |
| MinceR | you can do web service without tls or ssl, but you can't do it without http | Jun 30 12:23 |
| oiaohm | That is where http comes in from the systemd guys as in http not encrypted you can add extra packet checksumming. | Jun 30 12:24 |
| MinceR | o_O | Jun 30 12:24 |
| oiaohm | So it kind of make sense in horrible ways. | Jun 30 12:24 |
| MinceR | no, not really | Jun 30 12:24 |
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| MinceR | and of course if your log viewer webserver built into your "init system" relies on a tls/ssl implementation (like openssl or nss or gnutls), you also get to audit that | Jun 30 12:25 |
| MinceR | see where scope creep leads? | Jun 30 12:26 |
| MinceR | at least sh, awk and the tls/ssl library has a well defined interface, unlike anything inside systemd | Jun 30 12:26 |
| oiaohm | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3195 have you ever looked the syslog specifications. | Jun 30 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tools.ietf.org | RFC 3195 - Reliable Delivery for syslog | Jun 30 12:26 | |
| MinceR | so at least you'll have something you can rely on, unlike in your favorite hairball/spaghetti code | Jun 30 12:27 |
| oiaohm | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5424/?include_text=1 even the newest version. You are totally dependant on tcp checksums. | Jun 30 12:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-datatracker.ietf.org | RFC 5424 - The Syslog Protocol | Jun 30 12:28 | |
| oiaohm | So if you want syslog to make it and be to standard you have to wrap it in tls. | Jun 30 12:29 |
| MinceR | what is the threat model you're working with? | Jun 30 12:29 |
| oiaohm | That is logs not eaten by defective hardware or at least raising alarm when hitting defective hardware. | Jun 30 12:30 |
| MinceR | defective hardware is extremely unlikely to cause faults that are not detected even by a simple crc | Jun 30 12:30 |
| oiaohm | do not call 1 in 2^15 extremely unlikely That is in the range of possible bad luck. | Jun 30 12:31 |
| oiaohm | Opps 1 in 2^16 | Jun 30 12:32 |
| oiaohm | 1 in 65536 to put in numbers | Jun 30 12:33 |
| oiaohm | TCP is a old school 16 bit crc. | Jun 30 12:33 |
| MinceR | how far are you even sending logs? | Jun 30 12:34 |
| oiaohm | That is a very good question. Some organisations it can be the other side of the earth. | Jun 30 12:35 |
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| MinceR | you're sending logs to the other side of the earth without encryption? | Jun 30 12:36 |
| MinceR | and all you're worried about is the hardware being broken? | Jun 30 12:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: scary part is some router companies when they ask users to press the send to home do. | Jun 30 12:37 |
| MinceR | yeah, that is scary | Jun 30 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Its some of these insane groups asking for some of these features. | Jun 30 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Also if it routing by vpn because there is vpn network you don't want double encrypting. | Jun 30 12:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: personally I would have though it more sane to extend the syslog rfc and add checksumming support. | Jun 30 12:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sometimes when you see strangeness in systemd and you go look at what should be standard conforming way todo you find one very strange unfixed bug. | Jun 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | what if someone tries to modify logs en route? | Jun 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | once again, this whole issue does not belong in an "init system" | Jun 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | and it is not "service management" | Jun 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | it's remote logging and as such it should be done by a separate service | Jun 30 12:41 |
| MinceR | and one should not mix up remote logging with a log viewer webapp anyway | Jun 30 12:42 |
| oiaohm | journald does spin up separate binary services. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-gatewayd.html# | Jun 30 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | systemd-journal-gatewayd.service | Jun 30 12:43 | |
| MinceR | pity journald itself is not a separate, well-contained service | Jun 30 12:44 |
| MinceR | just yet another systemd part they tried to force on users | Jun 30 12:44 |
| oiaohm | remote viewer and remote logger are kinda linked. The gatewayd is remote access server to get logs and then is able to see what parts of the log it has then get the differences. | Jun 30 12:47 |
| MinceR | polling? are we trying to give an intruder extra time to hide their tracks or what? | Jun 30 12:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its a different usage case. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journal-upload.html this is like you normal rsyslog stuff. Where it send and send and sends. | Jun 30 12:55 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: gatewayd with the log viewer is for polling setups. | Jun 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | then we're back to journal-gatewayd being a pointless feature | Jun 30 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly pointless gatewayd aligns to snmp log polling | Jun 30 12:58 |
| oiaohm | What is also horriblely lacking checksumming. | Jun 30 12:58 |
| oiaohm | Opps smnp log polling | Jun 30 12:59 |
| oiaohm | dam I just mixed that up the wrong way. | Jun 30 13:00 |
| MinceR | oh yeah, snmp is yet another thing that is not service management and that doesn't belong in an init system | Jun 30 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | manage services systemd included logging and reporting logging to id issues. It all comes down to what manage services covers if systemd has feature expanded outside specification or is to specification. | Jun 30 13:04 |
| oiaohm | The wording of systemd specification is just taken one way is just insanely broad. | Jun 30 13:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, like i said, it apparently included everything | Jun 30 13:08 |
| MinceR | if interpreted this way, that scope definition is perfectly useless | Jun 30 13:09 |
| MinceR | (which again shows that poettering is utterly clueless about software engineering) | Jun 30 13:09 |
| MinceR | (and apparently ratcrap doesn't have anyone who could correct this for them, either) | Jun 30 13:09 |
| oiaohm | Might not be him in this case I have seen management hand down equally stupid instructions. | Jun 30 13:10 |
| MinceR | well, their management is either incompetent or malicious or both | Jun 30 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Redhat projects have a long historic of badly define specifications. More often way too narrow to being unworkable. But they do have the rare case of going competely the other ay. | Jun 30 13:11 |
| oiaohm | ay/way | Jun 30 13:11 |
| MinceR | that makes me glad to not work for them | Jun 30 13:12 |
| oiaohm | I am more likely to say 20+ years of incompetent specification defining due to the track record. | Jun 30 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Than directly malicious. | Jun 30 13:13 |
| MinceR | yeah, openly malicious seems to be newer than 20 years for them | Jun 30 13:13 |
| oiaohm | Please note some of redhat operating specification state that they must share what they are doing with other distributions for feed back. | Jun 30 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Of course not defined clearly how to-do that. | Jun 30 13:15 |
| oiaohm | the more I look at redhat the more I see management not the best done. | Jun 30 13:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjflNTd2kho I think I have shown this one. It kind of shows management issues. If someone did not go looking fe-legal would still be a black hole. | Jun 30 13:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: you have to wonder what else in redhat is a black hole. | Jun 30 13:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Games: #Gaming Headset, 'The Infectious Madness of | Jun 30 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Doctor Dekker', Paradox, and Micro Machines World Series | Jun 30 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/880797406157254657 | Jun 30 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The beefy Dell Precision 7520 DE can out-muscle a growing | Jun 30 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Linux laptop field | Jun 30 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880800123437101056 | Jun 30 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: https://t.co/6uYSIk7bnl (openSUSE.Asia) Summit | Jun 30 15:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 2017, Diversity Empowerment Summit North America, | Jun 30 15:53 |
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| XRevan86 | abeNd-org: hi | Jun 30 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880805541001519105 | Jun 30 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Devices With #Linux: #Tesla Cars, 'Internet of Things', | Jun 30 16:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Intel Has New Media #SDK for Linux | Jun 30 16:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices With Linux: Tesla Cars, 'Internet of Things', Intel Has a New Media SDK for Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 30 16:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 30/6/2017: Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1, Mozilla Employee | Jun 30 17:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Openwashing of #Arduino, #Microsoft, and #LinkedIn | Jun 30 17:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #GNU #GPLv3 turns 10 | Jun 30 17:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Macbuntu - Spice up your desktop | Jun 30 17:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | for those who choose #apple for appearance alone. | Jun 30 17:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Securing #NGINX and Customising Effect UI in #Pitivi | Jun 30 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/M7Bsj2k9rx (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jun 30 17:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #freesw | Jun 30 17:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Qt 5.9.1 Released | Jun 30 17:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #qt #kde #freesw #development #programming #norway | Jun 30 17:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt 5.9.1 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880823690203672576 | Jun 30 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Antergos: User-Friendly Desktop, Fueled by the Power of | Jun 30 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arch | Jun 30 17:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Antergos #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 30 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antergos: User-Friendly Desktop, Fueled by the Power of Arch | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880824016222773250 | Jun 30 17:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat News | Jun 30 17:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Jun 30 17:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880824481576517632 | Jun 30 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Jun 30 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/8g0eSCiRWL (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #GPLv3 turns 10 | Jun 30 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/etaDMQLmsY (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 30 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom | Jun 30 17:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Macbuntu - Spice up your desktop | Jun 30 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/yZPJllkqpf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for those who choose #apple for appearance alone. | Jun 30 17:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #ubuntu | Jun 30 17:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU GPLv3 turns 10 | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Macbuntu - Spice up your desktop | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880825495776055299 | Jun 30 17:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt 5.9.1 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880825576734543872 | Jun 30 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 30/6/2017: Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1, Mozilla Employee | Jun 30 17:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Denied Entry to the United States https://t.co/cyXbw2W7rh | Jun 30 17:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 30/6/2017: Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1, Mozilla Employee Denied Entry to the United States | Techrights | Jun 30 17:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Antergos: User-Friendly Desktop, Fueled by the Power of | Jun 30 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Arch | Jun 30 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NIJJmTloVe (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Antergos #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jun 30 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antergos: User-Friendly Desktop, Fueled by the Power of Arch | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880826039907254273 | Jun 30 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Jun 30 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/2CfCkev1at (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 30 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880827083903074305 | Jun 30 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Jun 30 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/8g0eSCiRWL (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 17:38 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Where is your letter to her objecting...' | Jun 30 17:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#RedHat integrates #Kubernetes in Red Hat [Server] Suite...' | Jun 30 17:55 | |
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| schestowitz | I think I'm back for good to KDE | Jun 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | KF5 | Jun 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | It works OK now | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | no more bugs | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | first time bask since 2015 | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | after 15 years with it | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | I had tearing issues | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the pointer, helped me solve it. OpenGL 3.1 backend. No more tearing now. I think... or hope (so far, so good) | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemqVWi_R0k | Jun 30 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-“Trumped" Starring Matthew Broderick & Nathan Lane - YouTube | Jun 30 18:16 | |
| MinceR | and i'm back for good to fvwm | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | it has sloppyfocus that actually works properly | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | and it gives me more control over windows than any other wm :> | Jun 30 18:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @DigiDoesGaming favourited '#Games: #Gaming Headset, 'The Infectious Madness of Doctor...' | Jun 30 18:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange This assumes all liberals adopt the same...' | Jun 30 18:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880839578751512576 | Jun 30 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Promises Smooth and Easy Unity 7 to GNOME Shell | Jun 30 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Migration for Users | Jun 30 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IL0TdaNhmU (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical | Jun 30 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unity #gnome | Jun 30 18:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Promises Smooth and Easy Unity 7 to GNOME Shell Migration for Users | Tux Machines | Jun 30 18:26 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880839813259300864 | Jun 30 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/HiNF5EOY0k | Jun 30 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux | Jun 30 18:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 30 18:27 | |
| MinceR | https://qz.com/1010684/all-the-wellness-products-american-love-to-buy-are-sold-on-both-infowars-and-goop/ | Jun 30 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 18:27 | |
| XRevan86 | Oh boy, linphone-desktop 4.0 has been released. | Jun 30 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://linphone.org/news/55/26 | Jun 30 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linphone.org | Linphone 4.0 for desktop platforms is available! | Jun 30 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840045715959809 | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Y0EmzZG8mr (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jun 30 18:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Important CentOS 7 Linux Kernel Security Update Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Jun 30 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | [18:26] <MinceR> smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | true (blush) | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | never likes gnomeshell | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | [18:27] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah, best to ignore such sites | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "naturalnews" also | Jun 30 18:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | selling "gold", "survival kits", bogus meds etc | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | they create crazy people | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | and then sell them crazy s | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | apparently it's a good business model | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | teach them anti-vaxx, chemtrail, anti-flouride etc. | Jun 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz | and then you sell them overpriced placebo crap that kills them early | Jun 30 18:35 |
| abeNd-org | ya, just eat real veggies/fruit/nuts, skip all that junk | Jun 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz | this is not what they advise | Jun 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz | if they did, fine... | Jun 30 18:37 |
| abeNd-org | that is what i advise | Jun 30 18:37 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ science backed nutrition | Jun 30 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research | Jun 30 18:38 | |
| XRevan86 | what's a non-real veggy/fruit/nut? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | where is msb? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | did he die from some "wellness" product? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840903358914562 | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RPi 3-like #LePotato SBC showcases fast Amlogic S905X SoC | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mbEgFVRmiz (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 30 18:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RPi 3-like Le Potato SBC showcases fast Amlogic S905X SoC | Tux Machines | Jun 30 18:39 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, he's fine just doesn't visit IRC for some reason. | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: right, but it's not the same as the aforementioned link | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | they sell mystic s* | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: hope so | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | he had some health issues last year | Jun 30 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, I VoIP'd him yesterday. | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw his sites linked to in reddit last week | Jun 30 18:40 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz just like the snake oil of old, just skip it | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "MICROSOFT WAR ON LINUX" | Jun 30 18:40 |
| abeNd-org | eat real food, not that difficult | Jun 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz | you mean unprocessed? | Jun 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz | "real" | Jun 30 18:41 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ explains it a lot better than I can | Jun 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | ok, thank you, will have a look | Jun 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | we eat lots of fruit and veg these days, plus milk, tea (no sugar) and chicken (unprocessed, just cooked) | Jun 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | sometimes fish | Jun 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Most people I know eat very differently, all the "cool" (commercial) things | Jun 30 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But no other meat like beef and pork? | Jun 30 18:43 |
| abeNd-org | i still eat fish sometimes, but i havent touched dairy/beef/poultry/pork in ages | Jun 30 18:45 |
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| abeNd-org | and before you say that small dietary change sounds "drastic", doesnt a triple bypass sound a bit drastic? | Jun 30 18:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump MAGA is a mirage. You seem to...' | Jun 30 19:22 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mona-lisa http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497540292-20170615after%20%281%29.png | Jun 30 19:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Mona Lisa | Jun 30 19:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Conflating business with war in your video....' | Jun 30 19:33 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 19:43 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@bartongellman @Snowden Maybe they "not wittingly" (of course!)...' | Jun 30 19:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@bartongellman @Snowden Maybe they "not wittingly" (of course!)...' | Jun 30 20:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 20:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Going through KDE's bugzilla is like Inception. | Jun 30 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon you're in a bug inside a bug inside a bug and you don't know what's real anymore. | Jun 30 20:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 20:29 | |
| DaemonFC | People were shocked to see that KMail's send later feature was sending email in plain text for four years before anyone found out. Doesn't surprise me. The quality of most of KDE is declining. | Jun 30 20:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: still got the irc logs, right? | Jun 30 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you hear that system76 is making an Ubuntu-derived distribution called Pop OS? | Jun 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | What an awful name. | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | [19:43] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't even lay out a rationale for it. They just announced it and some buzzwords like "It's for Creators!". | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | didn't get the reference, MinceR | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, awful name | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | thought so too | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | and how they spell it | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Pop!_OS | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Da Faq! | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Not even candy vendors would call anything that | Jun 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get shipping Ubuntu, because it's not the best but it *is* an end user product. | Jun 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora states that their target audience is software developers, but it's perfectly usable as a desktop OS. | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | somewhere | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | i moved to a new laptop in the meantime :) | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought it was called "Pop!_OS" | Jun 30 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten away with using it as a desktop OS for many years, so when I see people cutting down Fedora.... Hey, it is (usually) pretty reliable. It's had a few bad releases, but every distribution does. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | >Fedora >perfectly usable | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | that's a good one | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Makes me think of pop rocks. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Do pop rocks and soda pop make your head explode? Never tried it. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Valve made a really big mistake with the Steam Machine thing. | Jun 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | They should have released one version of it and said "This is the Steam Machine.". | Jun 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let it turn into the same kind of mess that the PC industry is in by letting PC OEMs produce a bunch of different versions of it with different specifications. | Jun 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | So it has the weakness of a PC. If you don't spend money on a top notch machine, you may not be able to play many of the top tier games. | Jun 30 21:01 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical Promises Smooth and Easy Unity 7 to...' | Jun 30 21:05 | |
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| XRevan86 | Looks like fun | Jun 30 21:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 21:24 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/safety | Jun 30 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Safety | Jun 30 21:25 | |
| XRevan86 | At least it's more fun than packaging Linphone %). | Jun 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | For some reason, it's friggin' hard | Jun 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | Not as hard as Audacity but still. | Jun 30 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | I hope the new Qt interface is worth it | Jun 30 21:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @Thomas_Drake1 So even the judge now understands...' | Jun 30 21:40 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/wNtRT | Jun 30 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon Masters - Album on Imgur | Jun 30 21:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Profiteering off 9/11 was what FBI, NSA...' | Jun 30 21:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You just want more tension and war...' | Jun 30 21:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You have actively raised tensions in this...' | Jun 30 22:00 | |
| oiaohm | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Driver-Specific-Tuning this is getting interesting. | Jun 30 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa Preparing To Support Gallium Driver Specific DRIRC Tuning Options - Phoronix | Jun 30 22:03 | |
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| MinceR | world's fastest train >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDyGyt4LeI | Jun 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A világ leggyorsabb vonata Romániában - YouTube | Jun 30 22:13 | |
| sebsebseb | worls stange MinceR :d | Jun 30 22:46 |
| MinceR | i don't mind strange | Jun 30 22:48 |
| MinceR | but the human infestation... | Jun 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's the OS from the southeast side of Chicago. | Jun 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Introducing.....POP POP POP POP OS. | Jun 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | that doesn't explain the underscore, though | Jun 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's a totally new OS. They changed the wallpaper. | Jun 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | just like the "OS" it's based on :> | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | well, in a few releases, anyway | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | for now, you have patches that break applications | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | they'll throw out and it'll just be debian with a different name, logo and wallpaper, and a few patches that break applications | Jun 30 22:57 |
| MinceR | then poettering will "standardize" "package management" | Jun 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | then eventually it and debian will just be fedora with a different name, logo and wallpaper | Jun 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/geopolitics | Jun 30 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Geopolitics | Jun 30 23:05 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian has formal QA processes that Fedora completely skips. | Jun 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which amount to nothing, in the end | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | since they already rubberstamped cancerd as "stable" twice | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | debian has become a joke | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | (and they also keep shipping gnome as the default desktop. with mono.) | Jun 30 23:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: because systemd failed less tests than sysvinit. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, poettering's tests | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | you probably believe all the bullshit on his website. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no existing debian issue tests that existed before first like of systemd was ever written. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | they make up all the bullshit in the world to make your favorite NSA backdoor seem like the only possible choice | Jun 30 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian QA started maintaining issue tests in 1998 | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | like they pretend all other init/rc systems (like openrc) do not even exist | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like i said, debian QA's tests and debian QA itself isn't worth shit. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| oiaohm | openrc failed on stableablity. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | also, APT is a fucking unreliable mess with worthless error messages. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | ah, good thing cancerd that eats tons of CPU, leaks RAM, fails to boot, fails to shut down, fails to start services, etc. is "stable" | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | fuck your lies. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Debian had tests backing it selection. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, "tests" made up by cancerd cultists | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the other distributions did not. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Tests that existed before systemd was written. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | just like when gartner publishes an "independent" "study" with m$ copyrights they forgot to remove | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you can make up all the bullshit in the world and it just won't make cancerd any less of a train wreck. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Debian had a list of faults of sysvinit they wantted fixed before systemd appeared. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you want cancerd to look good, go fix it. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | i don't care. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit worked just fine for tons of people and cancerd breaks all over the place | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a reason why lot of push to systemd happened and it not systemd people. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit was easy to swap out with tons of other systems | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Bull shit | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | cancerd hooks itself into the system with millions of tentacles | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | once you get into it, there's no getting out | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | which is of course what you cultists all wanted. | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Debian attempt to be pure multi init in 1999 | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | force everyone to your shitty system so you don't have to endure other people having systems that work better | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Then they found out how much sysvinit particular crap was connected to. | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | i can imagine | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | like their own atrocious rc scripts | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | systemd makes that problem in face because all the connected stuff is now in one item. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | which they never bothered to redesign properly | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | no, all that connected stuff and tons more is now in one item | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit tentacles were well hidden. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | before you know it, the whole userspace is one item | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, so well hidden that gentoo and funtoo swapped it out for openrc | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | and slackware swapped it out for their bsd-style rc | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | openrc maintained sysvinit support. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | And systemd had to as well. | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | and several people used different systems, like runit | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | and guix used dmd | Jun 30 23:16 |
| oiaohm | Have you ever used runit or dmd and noted how much you have to change from a sysvinit system. | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | not to mention running all these userspace programs on bsd-s | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | which gnome stopped so they could force cancerd on debian | Jun 30 23:17 |
| MinceR | who have an inexplicable obsession with gnome | Jun 30 23:17 |
| oiaohm | runit fails the existing tests of debian due to leaking processes from service monitoring as well. | Jun 30 23:17 |
| oiaohm | and that is even under BSD. | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | badly written processes | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | meanwhile, cancerd leaks ram | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | and eats 3% cpu on a system that's doing something else | Jun 30 23:18 |
| oiaohm | those defects were not in the debian test cases to check for. | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | then there's the system where emacs is actively being used yet dbus, packagekit and systemd are the 3 processes using the most cpu time | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | how the fuck is that possible? | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | is the NSA mining bitcoins on those machines or what? | Jun 30 23:19 |
| oiaohm | So those need to be added to the checklist for next time. | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, see, this is what i'm getting at | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian came up with the "tests" so they could push the malware they wanted to push all along | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | and there won't be a next time | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian jumped into the chasm | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian used to be a free, universal os with stable releases | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | they fucked up on all of those points | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | No those tests existed before systemd. Debian started looking for a new init solution in 1999 | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | it would be stupid to trust them with any of that ever again | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Well before systemd. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | therefore debian is now a system for idiots | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | and nobody else. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | ooh, a "solution" | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | fucking suits. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Most distributions were also looking for a replacement. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | see, this is debian's problem | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have engineers calling the shots | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | So there was a gap in the market unserviced. | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "most" as in the 3 controlled by redhat and the hundreds blindly following redhat and debian | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | even canonical, who knew cancerd was going to suck | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | but they weren't willing to do any work | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | ooh, there was a market gap! | Jun 30 23:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd sucked less than canonicals own upstart. | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | you claim there was demand! | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | so why the fuck not let people _choose_? | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | why use all the fucking tricks to force this shit on people, if you're so fucking confident that it's perfect? | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | see, your cult's acts show your party lines to be the lies that they are. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| oiaohm | Problem is when you run the test cases. None of the existing inits before systemd and openrc were passing. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | just like the presence of the Endorsement Key in the Treacherous Platform Module busted all the lies about it having benign purposes. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| oiaohm | There was a demand with nothing servicing it. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | the test cases matter more than what happens in the real world? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | what the hell are you smoking? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Those test cases were based of real world reported bugs. | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | which test case checked for processes not being sent SIGTERM, only SIGKILL? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | because your "perfect" "service manager" fucked that right up | Jun 30 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR you got some expereince flashing phones ? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | and they claimed it's because cgroups can't do their job properly. | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no, i don't like to risk it | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: meaning ? | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | i want a phone that boots off a removable device, but it would make too much sense for this industry of retards to implement | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: it can brick the phone. | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeh so it wont boot up at all or properly you mean? | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | and if you're especially unlucky, it will be unfixable | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I just been welll trying to get ubports on | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | since ubuntu touch is otherwise deaad really | Jun 30 23:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: you do need to check the phone. Some like nexus can be worth it because they have a fixed rom for reintalling firmware in case of uploading bad firmware. | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | it's crap anyway | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thought its a meizu fun lets try flyme os possibly | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | a guy from linx voice told me it sucked | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, at least nexus officially supports replacing the firmware | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | two years ago at event | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | too bad they're otherwise crap | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thught hold on ! | Jun 30 23:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: but many phones the firmware image includes the rom writting tool so it fails phone is stuffed | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | Meizu powerd by ubuntu screen | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | no removable battery, no memory card slot, no nothing | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | thats in the fime wire itself? | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | if I put flyme os on it could change that to the flyme os one | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | hell, they didn't even put removable storage device support in AOSP, because fuck users | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | keeping it as that even, if I put upbports on after? | Jun 30 23:26 |
| MinceR | this industry fucking sucks | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | thats the propritary stuff ubports cant get into ? | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | I am not sure | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah this no removable battery stuff is uh really | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: so I shoudn't just try and flash this and that then really? | Jun 30 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: this ubuntu tool script seems to work or like it will work now I know what to do with buttons etc | Jun 30 23:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember test cases based off existing bugs. Is not like formal design process where you design tests for everything that can happen. Systemd uptake shows a particular process failure. That process failure is creates the incorrect presume that systemd people had to push hard for how fast the change was. The market was basically primed for a init system/service management change. | Jun 30 23:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so what poettering fucks up that everybody else got right before doesn't matter. | Jun 30 23:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, this is why you'll never understand people actually using these things. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you eat up every single lie, every crooked test from poettering and his followers, without an ounce of critical thinking. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | s/test/"test"/ | Jun 30 23:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the same tests were applied to upstart when debian was looking to change to that. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | ooh, the market was primed | Jun 30 23:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is there is a time line problem. | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | yet the "change" had to be forced on the market | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | THIS IS WHAT CANCERD CULTISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | you're a fucking joke | Jun 30 23:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what force. | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | the one that made debian's leadership implode and turn against its users? | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | which planet are you living on, oiaohm? | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian leader ship had been fighting about init systems since 2000 | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | yeah, probably instigated by the gnome people on redhat payroll | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: No | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its on a mailing list that you have never read. | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | just as gnome's forcing a dependency was what made them force cancerd on their users | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | oh well, if redhat munchkins do it on a mailing list, that's totally different | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: gnome dependency on systemd comes after debian selection to use systemd. | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | it's fucking irrelevant where they do it. | Jun 30 23:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: is this timeline problems. | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | sure it does | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | and i'm sure you're privy to every little discussion they have with each other | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | you overhear every little hint the redhat munchkins pass on to the morons at debian who insist on shipping gnome as default desktop | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | in private | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | shit, you're not redhat, you're NSA?! | Jun 30 23:33 |
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| oiaohm | Gnome selection in debian is historic. And that is before redhat had major involement in gnome. | Jun 30 23:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really most of your stuff fails basic timeline checking. | Jun 30 23:34 |
| MinceR | yes, and the fact that they considered switching to xfce several times and then backed out is also historic | Jun 30 23:34 |
| MinceR | it's just that you ignored that because it doesn't fit your propaganda | Jun 30 23:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you ever read why they did not switch. | Jun 30 23:35 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they came up with some bullshit excuse | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | the fact is, i know gnome, i know what a horrible train wreck it is at least since 2.x | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | and what potential it used to have | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so bullshit excuse for making crap up. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | which the iPod People crushed. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go compare the gnome HIG with the crApple HIG. i'll wait. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you are clueless and just admitted it. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no it not compare. | Jun 30 23:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | When did xfce get hdpi support? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | now you just lie, plain and simple | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | what do you need hdpi support for? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | can you set font sizes? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | can you set icon sizes? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Or admit you don't know | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | do you have gui toolkits that have proper layouting and so actually scale to accommodate widget contents? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | x is not windows. | Jun 30 23:39 |
| oiaohm | So you don't know | Jun 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | (i know, you love windows because it forces a lot more shit on users and that turns you on) | Jun 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | when the fuck did IT stop being about empowering users and start being about forcing shit on users? | Jun 30 23:39 |
| oiaohm | So clueless rant | Jun 30 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Come on admit you don't know the answer. | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what you do every day | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | i wonder if ratcrap even pays you for it | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | not like you'll admit it | Jun 30 23:40 |
| oiaohm | https://xfce.org/download/changelogs/4.12 The answer is only this year. | Jun 30 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xfce.org | Xfce 4.12 Changelog – Xfce | Jun 30 23:40 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: They already have it? | Jun 30 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | they only just now moved to Gtk3 and they already did all the stuff necessary for hidpi? | Jun 30 23:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Now for something that does not know what monitor user will have connected its a deal breaker having a weakness like that. | Jun 30 23:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now next question is when will xfce get wayland support. | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually stable and usable? | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually usable for gaming? | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will you stop insisting that distributors break everybody's systems so you can have the latest shiny half-baked misfeature forced on them? | Jun 30 23:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: issues like this is why xfce failed the last round. Next stable release xfce will come up again. It might win at that time if it developed far enough. | Jun 30 23:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, yeah, your idol came up with a bullshit "comparison" table about "init systems" too | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | just because someone pretends to do a formal test or comparison doesn't mean they aren't twisting everything to get the result they wanted all along | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, there won't be a "next stable release" | Jun 30 23:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are already benchmarks on wayland, | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | debian stopped doing stable releases after wheezy | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | now they just release half-baked shit | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: guess what, most people don't use their computers to run benchmarks | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is wrong comparison table on init systems that pottering used was first designed by gentoo developers. Just he put the systemd data in and put it on his own blog. | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that table did not check for the defects systemd had. | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know at least one "gentoo developer" who is totally clueless and is just pushing cancerd everywhere | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the compare table design predates systemd by 4 years. | Jun 30 23:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this was the big problem the process was not using formal specificaiton compare standards. | Jun 30 23:47 |
| MinceR | no, the big problem is that corrupt people are being put in charge of formerly valuable systems | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | and they get to fuck everything up | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | some of them even get ratcrap's money behind them to break most distributions | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | No Linux distribution runs a proper formal validation. | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | and it fucking worked | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | List of defects would not exist if it worked. | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | for everyone. | Jun 30 23:49 |
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| MinceR | i mean, they got debian to adopt their malware | Jun 30 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm ok back, what was that about bricking phones? | Jun 30 23:49 |
| MinceR | they also got ubuntu to adopt their malware, even though the guy allegedly in charge _knew_ it was shit | Jun 30 23:49 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Then again, Trump cannot tell the difference...' | Jun 30 23:49 | |
| MinceR | and the hundreds of derivatives just shuffle after them into the chasm | Jun 30 23:49 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: some phones have a fixed firmware writing rom that you can force the phone into if the firmware upload fails. Other phones don't | Jun 30 23:50 |
| MinceR | we have hardly a handful of gnu/linux remaining | Jun 30 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what does that mean? | Jun 30 23:50 |
| MinceR | usually that "fixed" "rom" can also be flashed, afaik | Jun 30 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR right now no os on here my Meizu MX 4 | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical image gone bye bye | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | I been trying a script | Jun 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | they tend to have several stages in the boot process, with many images on the internal storage device, and they tend to let you flash all of them | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | didn't work properly first time, since dind't get to second part or turned off to early, but hten tried to do cyanomd option to also in the script, thaats not really worked at all for whatever reaon, it wants a image | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | no osees on phone basically yeah | Jun 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | but it's some of the time not even public what they do | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | just get the Meizu powered by ubuntu boot up screen, and thats about it, and can get into the fast mode and so o n | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | now my question is | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | that grapihic | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | that boot up screen, is that in the phones firmewier itself, not the OS? even a propritary thing ? | Jun 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | Allwinner SoCs can allegedly boot from anywhere, even USB storage devices -- but there's no documentation about them available for anyone who isn't manufacturing huge amounts of devices with them | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | so if I put on flymeos for example the Meizu android fork thing, it would change that to the one for flyme probably or try to, and could be a probelm getting the old one back, if its proptiray ? | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR is the boot up grahica, tighed to the hardware, not really the OS | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | graphic | Jun 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | is it even designed for your hardware? | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | yep that one is designed for the MX 4 Ubuntu Editition | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | which is my phone | Jun 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | one of the things that prevented me from wanting to flash my phone (beside the risk of bricking) was that nobody's rom would support the pen and digitizer | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | yeah well the ubports images work been tested with mx 4 | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | but a recent version of flyme os probably hasn't really ! | Jun 30 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | even if it sayas on flyme site that should be able to run on mx 4 | Jun 30 23:54 |
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| sebsebseb | wanted a llook but its just some sucky android based thing really, it seems | Jun 30 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm flymeos site had certain warnigns about falshing or whatever, that seemd a bit off putting too | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | well yeah, in general, flashing can brick the system | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | and nobody wants to do the obvious ways to do it right | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm I guess phone softwre isn't just a OS, it's the whole uh thing, whatever the equivilent to the bios is as well? yeah ? | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | it's not that clear cut, afaik | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | hence why its called frmwire | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | it's not an x86 pc | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | exactly its diffenret | Jun 30 23:57 |
| MinceR | there are no such quasi-standardized common parts | Jun 30 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | thats what I mean | Jun 30 23:57 |
| MinceR | iirc Linus used to complain about that long ago | Jun 30 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah flashing goes wrontg | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | phone wont boot | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | bricked | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | thats the risk | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | may not be worth the risk, for some stupid android based chinse os then ! | Jun 30 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | it's usually a soft-bricking that can be corrected with another image | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | 1. I want to use this phone as a ubuntu phone, well ubports now :d when I have flashed | Jun 30 23:58 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically phones don't always have anything like a bios. Some do those are the ones that can be corrected by apply another image. | Jun 30 23:59 |
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| sebsebseb | well this one has fast boot and recovery mode options thatsa bout it | Jul 01 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Jul 01 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | 2. android based stuff sucks really, actsaully anndroid sucks really :d | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | 3. exceptoin to that would be remix os | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | unfortunately all the other phone OSes suck even more | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | a lot more | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah for some sucky android basd os, may not be worth the risk of the possible bricking etc | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | and i suspect that the telcos don't want this to change | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | and the market probably doesn't demand it either | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | well companies can try the altenraive os route some have | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | but | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | plenty of money is made as a hardware manufacture or network from android so | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | most of the money available to people selling phones are from simpletons who believe a hypePhone is a "smartphone" | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Jul 01 00:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: a lot of my phones have been due people upgrading. | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what you mean ? | Jul 01 00:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: so when I have not paid for the phone bricking it is not a problem. | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | second hand ? | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | so they aren't going to develop devices that put the user in control | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | hell, they're switching to nonremovable batteries | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | yep ubuntu tuch / ub ports and salifish os put the user in control for the most part | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | on the software side that is | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | because ooh aah look the back of the device is made of a material that is perfectly impractical for the purpose | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | for phones that run on | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | fucking retards | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes even the mx 4 has a non removable battery hmm | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | but most of my other phones have a removable :) | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | i'm just waiting for glass _over_ shiny metal | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully could open up the mx 4 battery | Jul 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | non removable batteries could come a major problem with flights starting to lock down on laptops and the like on flights. | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | but warning on it not too | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | so you can block RF and wireless charging _and_ collect fingerprints and cracks at the same time! | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: how ? | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | well, another major problem there is the fascist governments | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | which approach everything from the viewpoint of "what else could we ban? how else could we screw with the ordinary people?" | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: Meizu powerd by Ubuntu graphic, is that tighed to the hardware? no os on here now | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | on the mx 4 | Jul 01 00:06 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: if they say no explosive materials at all on in carry on. That does forbid mobile phone batteries. | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: is the the propritary bit that Ubports cant just change ? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| razielle_tzu | how the fuck would i know without playing with one? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | especially dump, whose administration decided to ban laptops from being carried on board | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so if I put on a different hardware usch as flymeos it would change that oteh flyme os one, and maybe keep it there, | Jul 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they'll be shocked when it turns out that what remains of the IT industry of trumpistan is performing even worse | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: true, but taking a guess? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i know nothing about the phones, i can't even take a guess | Jul 01 00:07 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: now using like a nimh battery pack connected to a phone with a removable battery that operates with battery removed. would be a non explosive combination. | Jul 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | but the nimh battery pack itself would send most of the morons into a fit of paranoid fear | Jul 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | they'd assume it was a bomb | Jul 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or plug into aircraft provided power. | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'll ever let you do that | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | they're even afraid that consumer RF equipment will screw with their precious snowflake equipment | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder how much of this microsoft/apple/redhat "quality" software is allowed to run on board the plane itself... | Jul 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | they got away with running winblows on cars, after all... | Jul 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some flights do have usb ports https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-australia-powers-up-with-at-seat-ac-usb-for-boeing-737 | Jul 01 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ausbt.com.au | Virgin Australia powers up with at-seat AC, USB for Boeing 737 - Australian Business Traveller | Jul 01 00:10 | |
| MinceR | oh, nice | Jul 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: even worse that is 240 | Jul 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | 240V? | Jul 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep usb and 240V AC | Jul 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | that's nice | Jul 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | you can get away with thinner wires :> | Jul 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Now it if you can get you device on board is the problem. | Jul 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | And if it will work with battery removed. | Jul 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | and what will you do when they "lose" (or steal) the battery from your checked baggage :> | Jul 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now that worse if you phone with removable battery will not work with battery removed. | Jul 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or if you have to place your complete phone in checked baggage and they lose it. | Jul 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | I know of a few who are checking their laptop but removing the harddrive and carrying on the harddrive. | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Phones are nightmare because you don't have that option. | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | too bad even thinkpads are difficult to remove the storage device from | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | no separate hdd door anymore | Jul 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | easy to remove harddrive is a feature some business traveller are now looking for. | Jul 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | at least one of the batteries is still removable | Jul 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | will they be able to suppress their drooling for "unibody" long enough for it to actually matter, though? | Jul 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | When you have dumb idiot guards who read laptop must be checked you have problem. | Jul 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Then fail to read if complete containing battery. | Jul 01 00:17 |
| MinceR | what are the rules concerning laptops, tablets, phones on airplanes in australia? | Jul 01 00:18 |
| MinceR | in europe, they didn't mind them, just had to put them separately on trays for the x-ray or whatever | Jul 01 00:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we have a double nightmare http://www.traveller.com.au/the-real-difficulties-behind-banning-laptops-and-tablet-devices-in-plane-cabins-in-australia-gw5x94 | Jul 01 00:20 |
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| MinceR | great | Jul 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | are all of the five eyes going full retard now? | Jul 01 00:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: our existing regulation forbids the battery in the aircraft luggage and cargo holds of an aircraft. | Jul 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so taking a laptop to a country with a cabin ban is between rock and hard-place with Australian regulations unless you leave the battery behind. | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | so you can't take the device on board, but have to carry the batteries on board? | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yep | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | it's like they just roll dice to decide on the regulations now | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: welcome to ultra stupid. | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the battery regulation exists because we lost a mail aircraft to battery fire. | Jul 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note depending on where you are going you might not get your battery on board either. | Jul 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so laptop batteryless might be what you have. | Jul 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | or i just won't travel there | Jul 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | because fuck that noise | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | if they want to kill their IT industry, let them. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Or higher a private jet. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll buy an entire fleet | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | and then i'll buy a country, too | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | This is what is stupid. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | and an army, and a few hundred nukes | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | A private jet for 20 people to the USA costs about 50 dollars more each but you can take on what ever you like. | Jul 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | so how will you find 20 people who want to go to the same place at the same time? | Jul 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | i doubt even the biggest businesses would routinely send 20 people on business trips at a time | Jul 01 00:28 |
| oiaohm | Mining companies. | Jul 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | how much do they need computers? | Jul 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Quite a bit thinking that normally includes a geology assessment team. | Jul 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | As a solo person is 4-5 times normal ticket price. | Jul 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | That does come a question how much you need sleep because that is absolutely sure to be free of crying babies. | Jul 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | all my flights so far were blissfully free of crying babies :) | Jul 01 00:33 |
| oiaohm | Solo is more expensive due to having to cover the staff costs. So really fast service. | Jul 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | "Yang chas Solo chone Wookiee!" | Jul 01 00:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there are many elephants in the room that explain why what systemd has caused a up roar. https://lwn.net/Articles/726021/ The big one is in fact this one. Since the Linux kernel userspace is not have formal specifications people wanting to run alternatives to like udev have insanely hard time. | Jul 01 01:37 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: lack of specifications done right also explained cgroup v1. | Jul 01 01:37 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: there's also how the cancerd cult operates | Jul 01 01:38 |
| MinceR | if that behavior is tolerated in gnu/linux, they'll destroy it until nothing is left of it | Jul 01 01:38 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: also, we kinda do need diversity in our software | Jul 01 01:39 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that is the thing we did not have a lot of diversity because like even busybox mdev has been suffering from breakages due to lack of specification. | Jul 01 01:40 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: cancerd is not helping | Jul 01 01:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its bit hard to have diversity if everything is basically sitting on quicksand. | Jul 01 01:41 |
| MinceR | yup | Jul 01 01:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd did see some of the quicksand areas get some fixes. | Jul 01 01:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but there is still a huge area of quicksand. | Jul 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | fixes? are you living in the same reality i'm living in? | Jul 01 01:42 |
| oiaohm | cgroup v2 to replace cgroup v1 that was badly unworkable in many areas of design yet many projects like docker using it. | Jul 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | that is, where DE devs say "we're not going to support anything other than systemd", where debian decides that you can't install CUPS if you don't have systemd installed and shit like that | Jul 01 01:42 |
| MinceR | well, cgroup being far from stable is your problem, not mine | Jul 01 01:43 |
| MinceR | i don't rely on it | Jul 01 01:43 |
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| MinceR | yeah, i wonder when they'll kill it off | Jul 01 01:46 |
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| cubexyz | called Shepherd | Jul 01 01:46 |
| MinceR | used to be called dmd | Jul 01 01:46 |
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| cubexyz | runs on GuixSD which I've only just learned about | Jul 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | ah yes, it was guixsd, not guix | Jul 01 01:47 |
| MinceR | guix is just the package manager | Jul 01 01:47 |
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| MinceR | they don't seem to care anymore | Jul 01 01:49 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there was a lot of works for me around sysvinit. So basically no care for those who were having issues before systemd. Also sysvinit and upstart particular parts being in cups happened before systemd as well. | Jul 01 01:52 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: again this is another place of stuff being done due to missing universal specification. | Jul 01 01:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how do you expect any of this to get fixed once everyone is locked tightly into systemd? | Jul 01 01:53 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it seems sysvinit hasn't been updated since 2014? | Jul 01 01:53 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: fairly much. | Jul 01 01:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: few distributions have added a few extra patches here and there. But is fairly much abandoned project. | Jul 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | so, in redhatland, "stable" is referred to as "abandoned" | Jul 01 01:54 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jul 01 01:54 |
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| MinceR | "it's only worth using if we have to fuck with it every month!" | Jul 01 01:55 |
| cubexyz | btw note that slack has system V compatibility | Jul 01 01:55 |
| cubexyz | rc.sysvinit script | Jul 01 01:55 |
| MinceR | the baffling part is that some people are willing to pay actual money for "support" from the likes of red hat and canonical | Jul 01 01:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: abandoned statement comes from bug list. https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=sysvinit | Jul 01 01:58 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: of course you would never check that. | Jul 01 01:58 |
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| cubexyz | basically I do my own support, since there's no one that can really help me with the old software I want to run | Jul 01 01:59 |
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| MinceR | (i.e. "we play around with shit without understanding any of it, then we abandon it and the bug reports and start over" and "we can't be arsed to put any real work into our own distro") | Jul 01 02:01 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: from 2010 sysvinit has not been getting its upstream bugs addressed and fixed. Please note is not really redhat only to blame here all the distributions using sysvinit were not taking care of it either. | Jul 01 02:05 |
| MinceR | i guess it wasn't hurting anyone particularly | Jul 01 02:08 |
| oiaohm | That is a factor why distributions were unwilling to remain on sysvinit. | Jul 01 02:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart the downfall of sysvinit is upstart. Fairly much when fedora and ubuntu switched to upstart all maintainers on sysvinit stopped. | Jul 01 02:11 |
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| MinceR | yeah, that's because they're retarded | Jul 01 02:11 |
| MinceR | "let's abuse the hell out of signals and ptrace in the hope of booting a little faster!" | Jul 01 02:12 |
| MinceR | i wonder what moron would want that on a server | Jul 01 02:12 |
| oiaohm | Two parties switching killed the upstream. | Jul 01 02:13 |
| oiaohm | There is a diversity problem in 2010 | Jul 01 02:13 |
| MinceR | naturally, the way to solve the diversity problem is to cause even more of a diversity problem | Jul 01 02:14 |
| oiaohm | More of a duty of care. How many distributions are still using sysvinit yet the upstream is basically abandoned | Jul 01 02:15 |
| MinceR | how many distributions are using systemd yet the upstream is hostile and retarded | Jul 01 02:15 |
| MinceR | and unstable | Jul 01 02:15 |
| MinceR | and relying on an unstable kernel feature | Jul 01 02:16 |
| cubexyz | simplicity and slitaz still use sysvinit | Jul 01 02:17 |
| cubexyz | and slack is basically compatible with it | Jul 01 02:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?47196 I think would drop unstable kernel feature as a separator between sysvinit and systemd the pidof issue in sysvinit is from a not well specification defined feature of the Linux kernel. | Jul 01 02:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: and every other posix system. | Jul 01 02:18 |
| MinceR | now you're really grasping at straws | Jul 01 02:18 |
| oiaohm | No I am not. | Jul 01 02:18 |
| oiaohm | Its the same issue the kernel interfaces not define in function well enough. | Jul 01 02:19 |
| oiaohm | Using unstable kernel features that are not clearly define in init systems of posix operating systems has been going on for a long time. | Jul 01 02:20 |
| cubexyz | some day, people will say "screw it" and revert to older systems | Jul 01 02:26 |
| cubexyz | if they haven't done that already | Jul 01 02:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: or some day we will move to more valid software development methods | Jul 01 02:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: instead of build pray and give to end users the fix bugs as what happens now. | Jul 01 02:27 |
| cubexyz | did you know that the US Navy radar systems still use PDPs? | Jul 01 02:27 |
| MinceR | i'm sure that rewarding the worst sw development methods will steer the likes of redhat toward valid methods | Jul 01 02:28 |
| cubexyz | also the French Airbus | Jul 01 02:28 |
| MinceR | that's just the way things work, amirite? | Jul 01 02:28 |
| MinceR | also, we'll start healing broken bones with C4 | Jul 01 02:28 |
| MinceR | and putting out fires with napalm | Jul 01 02:28 |
| cubexyz | minuteman ICBM program? DEC Vax | Jul 01 02:29 |
| cubexyz | it's kind of funny | Jul 01 02:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: napalm has been used to put out oil fires. | Jul 01 02:29 |
| MinceR | we'll use it for all fires | Jul 01 02:29 |
| MinceR | just dump it directly on the fire | Jul 01 02:29 |
| cubexyz | "ancient computers control nuclear weapons" | Jul 01 02:30 |
| oiaohm | Really I see systemd as more showing how bad it really was. Spreed over like 40 different projects over 500+ buglists kind of hides a lot of evils. | Jul 01 02:30 |
| cubexyz | well at least we won't be nuked by a systemd bug :) | Jul 01 02:30 |
| MinceR | and humanity is committed to justifying controlling things with ancient computers | Jul 01 02:31 |
| MinceR | by making new computers and new software unreliable | Jul 01 02:31 |
| oiaohm | Now we can see how bad the mess is will we start the processes to make stuff properly. | Jul 01 02:31 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm sure we will | Jul 01 02:31 |
| oiaohm | Or will we keep on making junk. | Jul 01 02:31 |
| MinceR | setting everything in stone is definitely the first step to changing things | Jul 01 02:31 |
| MinceR | yes, we'll reward the ones making the worst junk and expect this to motivate them to make non-junk | Jul 01 02:32 |
| MinceR | causality was so inconvenient, so we just got rid of it | Jul 01 02:32 |
| MinceR | like facts | Jul 01 02:32 |
| MinceR | the post-fact era is so great | Jul 01 02:32 |
| oiaohm | Setting everything in stone is a great way to start a rebellion. Now if rebellion will be smart enough to be effective that is a really good question. | Jul 01 02:34 |
| cubexyz | I just want a motherboard without intel me | Jul 01 02:34 |
| cubexyz | is that too much to ask? | Jul 01 02:34 |
| MinceR | well, the rebellion has already started | Jul 01 02:34 |
| MinceR | and not a day passes without you castigating the rebels for daring to rebel | Jul 01 02:34 |
| MinceR | if only there was a way to turn cognitive dissonance into energy | Jul 01 02:34 |
| MinceR | we could replace fossil fuels with you | Jul 01 02:34 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: yes | Jul 01 02:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember the luddites were a rebellion as well. | Jul 01 02:35 |
| MinceR | cubexyz: you see, this industry is dedicated to making everything shit | Jul 01 02:35 |
| oiaohm | So it important that the ones doing rebellion learn from history. | Jul 01 02:35 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: remind me, who's wrecking cron, screen, tmux, dtach, etc. here? | Jul 01 02:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: everything you listed works under systemd setup. Ok some you have to declare stuff. | Jul 01 02:36 |
| MinceR | seems to me that the CADT development model isn't exactly conducive to learning from history | Jul 01 02:36 |
| MinceR | but what do i know, i'm just a software engineer | Jul 01 02:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, everything works, except that it doesn't | Jul 01 02:37 |
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| oiaohm | cron has a bug where if it has been killed under sysvinit and restarted that at times it will start one of it tasks twice. | Jul 01 02:37 |
| oiaohm | Of course systemd kill cron out right when it stopped it fixes that bug. So this is a rock and hard place problem. | Jul 01 02:38 |
| MinceR | right, only cron has bugs | Jul 01 02:38 |
| MinceR | killing everything that crond ever started, now that's a feature | Jul 01 02:38 |
| MinceR | so has our self-appointed emperor declared. | Jul 01 02:39 |
| MinceR | no, this is not a rock and a hard place problem | Jul 01 02:39 |
| oiaohm | cron was not design to properly track what it had started and to have it core restartable. | Jul 01 02:39 |
| MinceR | this is a megalomaniac with delusions of adequacy and brainless horde of followers problem | Jul 01 02:39 |
| MinceR | systemd was not designed | Jul 01 02:39 |
| MinceR | at all | Jul 01 02:39 |
| oiaohm | Not true | Jul 01 02:40 |
| oiaohm | systemd has a lot for formal specifications | Jul 01 02:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, we've already discussed how formal and meaningful they are | Jul 01 02:40 |
| oiaohm | So it was designed to a point. Then coders failed to implement to specifications and test to specificaitons properly. | Jul 01 02:40 |
| MinceR | and how closely they're followed | Jul 01 02:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, all those coders called poettering | Jul 01 02:41 |
| oiaohm | So saying not designed is wrong. | Jul 01 02:41 |
| oiaohm | Designed then badly implemented is true. | Jul 01 02:41 |
| MinceR | have they failed to specify that you should exercise at least minimal care in code written in c that's running in pid1 as root or was that ignored from the start as well? | Jul 01 02:41 |
| oiaohm | Part of that would fall under testing that code is to specification and only functions as per specification. | Jul 01 02:42 |
| oiaohm | openssl years before was also showing the problem of writing lots of good specification then no valid testing to specification. | Jul 01 02:43 |
| oiaohm | There is quite a huge code quality problem. | Jul 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | ah yes, testing | Jul 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | another thing made "obsolete" by microsoft | Jul 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | why test if your consumers don't care if your product is full of bugs and design flaws, or if it doesn't even work at all? | Jul 01 02:44 |
| MinceR | also, obviously the way forward is to find what various projects are doing wrong and then adopting those flaws into others | Jul 01 02:45 |
| oiaohm | Please note lack of quality processed for testing have been in the Linux kernel itself from the start. | Jul 01 02:47 |
| MinceR | and it shows | Jul 01 02:48 |
| MinceR | just look at the hype-V-related crap | Jul 01 02:48 |
| MinceR | though even code review would have caught some of those wtfs | Jul 01 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft managed to make the hyper-v code that bad that it did not manage to pass the Linux kernels poor quality of review processes. | Jul 01 02:48 |
| MinceR | yet there it is, in staging | Jul 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | but there still is _some_ QA | Jul 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | after all, there's a bit of code that proved to be even more atrocious than that | Jul 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | kdbus. | Jul 01 02:49 |
| MinceR | from the same idiots. | Jul 01 02:50 |
| oiaohm | The samsung attempt of graphic driver merge in Linux kernel makes kdbus look sane. | Jul 01 02:50 |
| MinceR | and there's only 1 person who can protect Linux from those idiots completely fucking it up | Jul 01 02:50 |
| oiaohm | Few quick looks one person worked out that one of the /dev entries of the samsung driver was basically /dev/mem that had been removed due to being a massive security hole. | Jul 01 02:51 |
| MinceR | ah yes, that brilliant exynos sechole | Jul 01 02:53 |
| MinceR | i used it to root my phone | Jul 01 02:53 |
| MinceR | i didn't know they tried to submit that to upstream though | Jul 01 02:55 |
| oiaohm | The kdbus if you follow it back it lead to you a issue before systemd existance. Dbus formal specification yet no proper testing or benchmarking. Most of what linus told them to do was go back and benchmark the thing and locate the poor performing points | Jul 01 02:55 |
| MinceR | yup | Jul 01 02:55 |
| MinceR | they couldn't be bothered to profile it | Jul 01 02:55 |
| MinceR | "just throw it in the kernel!" | Jul 01 02:55 |
| MinceR | like microsoft | Jul 01 02:55 |
| MinceR | which of course started with abusing dbus, sending >512kB messages | Jul 01 02:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: please note dbus is not by the person you like to hate. But is from the redhat guy who use to use the handle havoc. | Jul 01 02:59 |
| MinceR | still a braindead "design", if you can call it that | Jul 01 02:59 |
| MinceR | and kdbus is from the cancerd cabal | Jul 01 02:59 |
| MinceR | and cancerd is pushing dbus everywhere | Jul 01 03:00 |
| oiaohm | Pennington, Havoc | Jul 01 03:00 |
| oiaohm | happens to have been who was Poettering supervisor. | Jul 01 03:01 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Jul 01 03:01 |
| MinceR | they can't have much of a clue if they didn't realize as a supervisor that poettering is perfectly unfit for software engineering | Jul 01 03:01 |
| oiaohm | Havoc was not known for his software engineering skill either. | Jul 01 03:02 |
| oiaohm | So blind leading blind. | Jul 01 03:02 |
| MinceR | and their people forcing the results on us all | Jul 01 03:02 |
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| oiaohm | The one thing Havoc was known for was writting good documentation. | Jul 01 03:03 |
| MinceR | did said documentation include "yes we expect you to reboot your server/workstation all the time, lol"? | Jul 01 03:04 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: reality both havoc and poettering had been restricted to documentation writing they would not have caused problems. Or better supervised on software engineering proceses. | Jul 01 03:06 |
| MinceR | or if they had both just kept on eating glue | Jul 01 03:06 |
| MinceR | and not touching computers | Jul 01 03:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: thing is both of them produced good quality documents. | Jul 01 03:06 |
| oiaohm | It hard to find good technical writers. | Jul 01 03:07 |
| MinceR | yet it's not the documents that they keep trying to force on me | Jul 01 03:07 |
| MinceR | but how can someone be a good technical writer without any working neurons? | Jul 01 03:07 |
| oiaohm | Read the man pages and that of systemd some time. | Jul 01 03:08 |
| MinceR | what for? | Jul 01 03:08 |
| oiaohm | Software development and auditing what you do takes a very particular set of though processes. You don't need all those skills to write good usable documentation and specifications for what software should do. | Jul 01 03:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you don't find in most cases a person who is good at technical writing and good at formal development. Most people are either good at one or the other. | Jul 01 03:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if you are good at technically writing you will normally be a nightmare at coding. | Jul 01 03:10 |
| cubexyz | microsoft has obviously been colluding with OEMs | Jul 01 03:12 |
| cubexyz | that's really the biggest problem | Jul 01 03:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not merely technical writing or coding | Jul 01 03:12 |
| oiaohm | Really some cases yes some cases no.o | Jul 01 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Oem processes are a living nightmare. | Jul 01 03:13 |
| oiaohm | Like the firmware being developed 12 months before the device goes into production then only tested with the OS at the last min and if anything wrong we will just write a driver for the OS instead of having to reflash the motherboards. | Jul 01 03:14 |
| cubexyz | and that "lower cost of ownership" nonsense... | Jul 01 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Add in buying firmware from third party vendors. | Jul 01 03:15 |
| cubexyz | even though internally M$ admitted Linux was cheaper | Jul 01 03:15 |
| oiaohm | Who don't work with each other. | Jul 01 03:15 |
| oiaohm | OEM be it PC or phone are a insanely messy development process. | Jul 01 03:16 |
| oiaohm | more worried about cost than quality. | Jul 01 03:16 |
| oiaohm | Do I think OEM would be much better if windows did not exist? No they would most likely be the same nightmare. | Jul 01 03:17 |
| cubexyz | I remember the pre-windows era | Jul 01 03:17 |
| cubexyz | it was better in some ways | Jul 01 03:18 |
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| cubexyz | certainly programming manuals for peripherals were more accessible | Jul 01 03:18 |
| oiaohm | Not that much better when you got into stuff with proper OS cores. | Jul 01 03:18 |
| cubexyz | you got a real manual with your printer | Jul 01 03:18 |
| oiaohm | Dos was kind of a golden age for a bit where vendors of hardware had to provide specs. | Jul 01 03:19 |
| cubexyz | no winmodem winprinter crap either | Jul 01 03:19 |
| cubexyz | ha, well I didn't like the real mode limitations and EMS :) | Jul 01 03:19 |
| cubexyz | Waterloo was using Sun4's | Jul 01 03:20 |
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| cubexyz | Amiga didn't have that silly 640K limit | Jul 01 03:21 |
| cubexyz | you really can't say windows was that positive an influence | Jul 01 03:21 |
| cubexyz | M$ wanted OS/2 and Unix out of the picture | Jul 01 03:23 |
| cubexyz | not to mention BeOS and probably other ones | Jul 01 03:23 |
| cubexyz | M$ wants to kill old windows too | Jul 01 03:25 |
| cubexyz | herd everyone onto win10 | Jul 01 03:25 |
| cubexyz | one thing that surprised me a lot was one thing HP did | Jul 01 03:27 |
| cubexyz | they made a web page for one of their scanners, the HP Pro 3500 flatbed | Jul 01 03:28 |
| cubexyz | and they tested a ton of different Linux distros, even LFS | Jul 01 03:28 |
| cubexyz | listed the functionality under each one, e.g. scan, fax, status, photo card, usb, parallel, network | Jul 01 03:29 |
| cubexyz | the only things that worked under linux (and it didn't seem to matter which distro) was scan and usb | Jul 01 03:30 |
| cubexyz | and in a few cases not even usb worked | Jul 01 03:31 |
| cubexyz | HP never told me the full story, I had to research it myself | Jul 01 03:32 |
| cubexyz | some of HP's info is bogus though | Jul 01 03:33 |
| cubexyz | there's no reason why USB wouldn't work under slack | Jul 01 03:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its really simple to forget HP giving out free servers at different times to debian and other open source projects. | Jul 01 03:34 |
| cubexyz | I'm not against HP | Jul 01 03:35 |
| cubexyz | I bought two HP chromebooks after all :) | Jul 01 03:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so HP for a long time has been supporting Linux. but even so cost has lead to stupidity at times. | Jul 01 03:35 |
| MinceR | has hp's love affair with m$ ended yet? | Jul 01 03:35 |
| cubexyz | you can't say HP is giving good linux support for scanners... | Jul 01 03:36 |
| cubexyz | I spent years studying this | Jul 01 03:36 |
| cubexyz | but HP did make chromebooks, so their not 100% in microsoft's pocket | Jul 01 03:36 |
| cubexyz | they're | Jul 01 03:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: HP scanners have at times been bad under windows. | Jul 01 03:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so HP is more cost cutting causing issues. | Jul 01 03:38 |
| cubexyz | and they still update HP-UX I think | Jul 01 03:40 |
| cubexyz | well I know you can't use the old win95 drivers on win2k or xp (and I'm sure anything later than that) | Jul 01 03:48 |
| cubexyz | they didn't bother rewriting the drivers for the old scanners | Jul 01 03:49 |
| cubexyz | too bad consumers, buy more stuff | Jul 01 03:49 |
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| cubexyz | although I admit I never use fax these days | Jul 01 04:03 |
| cubexyz | not a big deal that fax doesn't work under linux | Jul 01 04:03 |
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| cubexyz | got half a mind to port the old konsole | Jul 01 04:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I know its the horrible drag and drop and ouch new window if miss. | Jul 01 04:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: been using lxterminal recently to have key options to move tabs around. | Jul 01 04:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RyanMcCullagh favourited '8 Best Linux Distros For #Programming And Developers...' | Jul 01 05:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ArturKirkoriyan Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jul 01 06:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Important CentOS 7 Linux Kernel Security Update Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines | Jul 01 06:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #centos #gnu #linux | Jul 01 06:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jul 01 07:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @NTechlibre Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jul 01 07:07 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @PakamamaniRenew retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update Patches...' | Jul 01 07:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa | Jul 01 07:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Radeon/AMD/Vega and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:31 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #CalculateLinux 17.6 released | Jul 01 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/di9MYSdnps (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 07:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Calculate Linux 17.6 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:34 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#CalculateLinux 17.6 released https://t.co/di9MYSdnps #gnu #linux...' | Jul 01 07:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa ...' | Jul 01 07:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubernetes 1.7 released | Jul 01 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LdLSeKju4W (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server | Jul 01 07:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes 1.7 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kubernetes 1.7 released https://t.co/LdLSeKju4W #freesw #container #server...' | Jul 01 07:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881039970126880772 | Jul 01 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 07:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/p6GW6NHuqM (www.tuxmachines.org) 23. #dos | Jul 01 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeDOS Anniversary | Tux Machines | Jul 01 07:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 07:46 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881045549280968705 | Jul 01 08:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games: #Steam Summer Sale, #Cossacks3, #MicroMachines: | Jul 01 08:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | World Series, The #Witcher3, and #GTA 5 | Jul 01 08:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/hLPwXiz0Es (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Summer Sale, Cossacks 3, Micro Machines: World Series, The Witcher 3, and GTA 5 | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881050631536087040 | Jul 01 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What Motivates #Torvalds, What Excites #Larabel About | Jul 01 08:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux, and Latest @LinuxFoundation Announcements | Jul 01 08:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Motivates Torvalds, What Excites Larabel About Linux, and Latest Linux Foundation Announcements | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881051194583650308 | Jul 01 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon has just posted its | Jul 01 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2,000th toot. Almost 400 followers. Growing a lot faster | Jul 01 08:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | than #twitter (censor). | Jul 01 08:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Servers: #Containers, #Ansible, and #Puppet | Jul 01 08:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Containers, Ansible, and Puppet | Tux Machines | Jul 01 08:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Servers: #Containers, #Ansible, and #Puppet | Jul 01 09:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Jul 01 10:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jul 01 10:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #Qt, #KWin, #GSoC, #Kirigami, #Kube and #LatteDock | Jul 01 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Qt, KWin, GSoC, Kirigami, Kube and Latte Dock | Tux Machines | Jul 01 10:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Will there be any press coverage?...' | Jul 01 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/1637800 | Jul 01 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1637800 “add a motd script for news” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jul 01 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Add a new update-motd script for printing news and/or important notices." | Jul 01 10:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881082226728939520 | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | risk for customers | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 10:31 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym' | Jul 01 10:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym | Jul 01 10:42 | |
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| oiaohm | Really the grsecurity one has been a problem for a while with not working with upstream. | Jul 01 10:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6jv59l/til_the_json_licence_is_not_free_because_you_may/ | Jul 01 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TIL the JSON licence is not free, because you may not use it for Evil : linux | Jul 01 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://social.gl-como.it/display/3e3ce0df13594cc5f203fa9808762540 | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | On brokeness, the live installer and being nice to people | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | This morning I've read this. | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I understand that somebody on the internet will always be trolling, but I just wanted to point out: | Jul 01 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.gl-como.it | Social@GL-Como (display) | Jul 01 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | * that the installer in the old live images has been broken (for international users) for years | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | * that nobody cared enough to fix it, not even the people affected by it (the issue was reported as known in various forums, but for a long time nobody even opened an issue to let the *developers* know). | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 11:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "How to break your licence with humour for dummies" | Jul 01 11:14 |
| XRevan86 | The thought of the "for good not evil" clause being legally enforced is a scary one. | Jul 01 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | One could define Evil as anything that goes against the American Way or something. | Jul 01 11:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kkgni/what_do_you_think_richard_stallmans_opinion_is_on/ | Jul 01 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think Richard Stallman's opinion is on the recent GNU/NT implementation? : linux | Jul 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/fQUMvfU | Jul 01 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nice proprietary software - Imgur | Jul 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: MinceR https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kdcme/why_does_systemd_have_its_own_dns_resolver/ | Jul 01 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why does systemd have it's own DNS resolver? : linux | Jul 01 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: #Systemd, #ELSA, and #OutlawCountry https://t.co/f9idGcrADo...' | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @DailyMirror In an age of medieval restrictions...' | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Systemd, ELSA, and OutlawCountry | Tux Machines | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it does list the features the systemd resolver has and a lot of other resolvers are missing. | Jul 01 11:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105478373298177 | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief risk for customers | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 12:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105752156491777 | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105885623406593 | Jul 01 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa | Jul 01 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/NQ0FM0FEw2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Radeon/AMD/Vega and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881106364151607298 | Jul 01 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Jul 01 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/r1hSs6sEt1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jul 01 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:46 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#RedHat News https://t.co/lSwkieev9l #gnu...' | Jul 01 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881123869473595393 | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft Abuses, and | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Restrictions https://t.co/MJW9c92vt1 | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Systemd, OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, Microsoft Abuses, and Restrictions | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881124181680812033 | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 13:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 13:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881125845737369600 | Jul 01 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia | Jul 01 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Jul 01 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ioHzFEXjsO (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Radeon ProRender, Mir, Xwayland, NVidia GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881126198868402176 | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeCAD development news and users | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE (www.tuxmachines.org) #cad | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #software | Jul 01 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeCAD development news and users | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:25 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, back to quasi-normal after the power failure | Jul 01 13:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Do you host maxhost.org at home? | Jul 01 13:30 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 01 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881127151550050304 | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Design & Animation Software, #Linphone | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GZk1WayE5K (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: José, Buildah, Poppins, KeePassXC, LabPlot, Design & Animation Software, Linphone | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, Design &...' | Jul 01 13:38 | |
| cubexyz | ups is getting old :-/ | Jul 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | battery only lasted 12 minutes this time | Jul 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | ummm, 2004 | Jul 01 13:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeCAD development news and users https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE #cad...' | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/881131344016924672 | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 13:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia GPUs Linux...' | Jul 01 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881133485326557186 | Jul 01 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 13:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @MrIvanJohnson https://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/881135153636147200 | Jul 01 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz thanks Roy, hadn't heard of | Jul 01 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pop!_OS (though knew of System76 of course). Interesting | Jul 01 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 14:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 14:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jul 01 14:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 14:15 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: because it has to have its own everything. | Jul 01 14:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @CNN Fox News is fake news also,...' | Jul 01 14:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881139405456592898 | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft Abuses, and | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Restrictions https://t.co/MJW9c92vt1 | Jul 01 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Systemd, OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, Microsoft Abuses, and Restrictions | Tux Machines | Jul 01 14:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 14:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 14:17 | |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/99e6670ac7dab4089e4fd152cc83debf/tumblr_osbk3uQT6w1tjekmfo1_1280.jpg | Jul 01 14:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AlesonITC favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 14:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of other people's...' | Jul 01 14:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of...' | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held accountable? https://t.co/G9x3tKbqVk' | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Leaks reveal Amber Rudd's involvement in Bahamas offshore firms | Business | The Guardian | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held...' | Jul 01 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd. They play...' | Jul 01 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd....' | Jul 01 14:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4' | Jul 01 14:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4 | Jul 01 14:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4' | Jul 01 14:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Tories take away their health coverage Take...' | Jul 01 14:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Tories take away their health...' | Jul 01 15:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN | Jul 01 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | Red Hat lockin perhaps, MinceR | Jul 01 15:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 15:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 15:47 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | that's what it's all about | Jul 01 15:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6,...' | Jul 01 15:57 | |
| MinceR | make all former gnu/linux users depend on this massive hairball and make sure it's unmaintainable by anyone else | Jul 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | sell support contracts, rake in the money | Jul 01 15:58 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma Discover's...' | Jul 01 16:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn A year ago we protested #cameron tax...' | Jul 01 16:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn A year ago we protested...' | Jul 01 16:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/881170937521065984 | Jul 01 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 16:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881172493091975168 | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gY9MLxzMcj (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hurd | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 16:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IkVdH | Jul 01 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A dump for your dump - Album on Imgur | Jul 01 16:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881173291762843649 | Jul 01 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It | Jul 01 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Matters https://t.co/cXkRUj7gDA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction to Kubernetes, New Release and Why It Matters | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server #freesw | Jul 01 16:36 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may May lasted till the end of...' | Jul 01 16:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may May lasted till the...' | Jul 01 16:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/gY9MLxzMcj #gnu #linux...' | Jul 01 16:41 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dark-matter-2 http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497877575-20170619after.png | Jul 01 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dark Matter | Jul 01 16:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It...' | Jul 01 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881176710997307392 | Jul 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It | Jul 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Matters https://t.co/cXkRUj7gDA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server #freesw | Jul 01 16:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 16:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may When does May too give a...' | Jul 01 16:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may When does May too...' | Jul 01 17:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for billionaires... https://t.co/rvH8hO4NBR' | Jul 01 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for billionaires... https://t.co/rvH8hO4NBR | Jul 01 17:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may But tax cuts for...' | Jul 01 17:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881185858535256065 | Jul 01 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers | Jul 01 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jOMwEVpXh1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 17:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881186174190186497 | Jul 01 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA | Jul 01 17:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jXxFISnGVS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 17:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in the Public Sector: NASA, GDPR, OSEHRA | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881186564520509440 | Jul 01 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: #FOSScamp,# ITOlympics, and #Containers | Jul 01 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microconference | Jul 01 17:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/msvPYXDJog (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: FOSScamp, IT Olympics, and Containers Microconference | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks The Intercept got the Drone Files from...' | Jul 01 17:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks The Intercept got the Drone...' | Jul 01 17:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h' | Jul 01 17:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h | Jul 01 17:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/OwZVwUKU9h' | Jul 01 17:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188362144686081 | Jul 01 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 17:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 17:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Games | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188590214164480 | Jul 01 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora | Jul 01 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/QOo7dwmhx4 (www.tuxmachines.org) news | Jul 01 17:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | leftovers | Jul 01 17:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881188827443933184 | Jul 01 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jul 01 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lrNhecOIxf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 17:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881189816687349761 | Jul 01 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Jul 01 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/I3eei3qf7D (techrights.org) | Jul 01 17:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Techrights | Jul 01 17:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/881191681009299456 | Jul 01 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 17:53 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @JulianAssange The word liberal has been hijacked...' | Jul 01 17:55 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @schestowitz thanks Roy, hadn't heard of Pop!_OS...' | Jul 01 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881208896966324225 | Jul 01 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by OSS Leftovers | Jul 01 18:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jOMwEVpXh1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 18:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 18:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881210078413586433 | Jul 01 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA | Jul 01 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/jXxFISnGVS (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FOSS in the Public Sector: NASA, GDPR, OSEHRA | Tux Machines | Jul 01 19:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If I said, "illegally shot a [politician],"...' | Jul 01 19:17 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Qopzx | Jul 01 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A wood trunk carved down into frayed rope - Album on Imgur | Jul 01 19:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @kaddourkardio favourited '#FOSS in the Public Sector: #NASA, #GDPR, #OSEHRA...' | Jul 01 19:24 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkiCYT6tGH4 | Jul 01 19:27 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Translator's nightmare. | Jul 01 19:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 19:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881217028488663041 | Jul 01 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Events: #FOSScamp,# ITOlympics, and #Containers | Jul 01 19:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Microconference | Jul 01 19:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: FOSScamp, IT Olympics, and Containers Microconference | Tux Machines | Jul 01 19:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881222086915764224 | Jul 01 19:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 19:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KxlWkPrrmQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Games | Tux Machines | Jul 01 19:53 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/6HeO5Zf.jpg | Jul 01 19:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange It bothers them that not only does...' | Jul 01 20:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881226389327945728 | Jul 01 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora | Jul 01 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/QOo7dwmhx4 (www.tuxmachines.org) news | Jul 01 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | leftovers | Jul 01 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines | Jul 01 20:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881228747223044097 | Jul 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jul 01 20:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/lrNhecOIxf (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 20:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jul 01 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 20:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Jul 01 20:53 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/r7vdmAu.jpg | Jul 01 20:57 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/smartphones | Jul 01 21:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881239843912785920 | Jul 01 21:14 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/2Mizm | Jul 01 21:15 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I like how Breaking Bad makes fun of Intuit. | Jul 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | "I punched the numbers into Quckbooks and it turned green so that must be good, right?" | Jul 01 21:25 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | "You're managing your business accounts with Quickbooks.....I think I found the problem." | Jul 01 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Hey, I found a brand new bug in Fedora. :) | Jul 01 21:30 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jul 01 21:30 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hot-lava | Jul 01 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hot Lava | Jul 01 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Bug 1466986 - SELinux is preventing ibus-daemon from 'read' accesses on the lnk_file machine-id. | Jul 01 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Bug 1466984 - [abrt] gnome-shell: touch_handle_surface_destroy(): gnome-shell killed by signal 6 | Jul 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Got that one yesterday. Went to close HexChat and the shell crashed. | Jul 01 21:31 |
| Elon_Satoshi | Anyone here heard of Parabola Linux? | Jul 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like the weird bugs with Wayland still occur. | Jul 01 21:32 |
| MinceR | i've heard someone managed to run xonotic on wayland without the forced vsync | Jul 01 21:32 |
| MinceR | on weston, specifically | Jul 01 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Weston is just sort of a demo. | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's meant to be used. | Jul 01 21:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC woo databases are fun aren't they! :d | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I went to clean out my dconf file because too much crap had accumulated in it. | Jul 01 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC seems that's the way for me too see my old texts on my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Phone now, since dind't do a proper back up, before ubporting it | Jul 01 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | and replacing the database file with my older one doens't just work either it seems | Jul 01 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to dump it to text and then hand edit the dead entries out of it and then you have to delete the database file and then tell dconf to import the text file you created. | Jul 01 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually harder to edit dconf to clean it out than it is the Windows Registry. | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I don't knpw about ubuntutuch/ubports | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | there probably is some way to get it using my old database actasully | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | but maybe have to mess around with other files too etc | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | and it would be cleaner to start over really anyway, since for certain contacts I had hundreds of texts, with me and them, so soo much scroll back | Jul 01 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE doesn't use dconf and neither does Xfce. They use plain text files. | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and ubuntu touches uess a sqllite database | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | and uhmm maybe osmething ele some wehre for texts to hmm | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | ubuntutouch/ubports | Jul 01 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | If one gets messed up, then the error it causes is contained to that particular app. | Jul 01 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | If you lose a binary database, you lose everything. | Jul 01 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | So while you may lose your preferences for Kwrite, that's all. | Jul 01 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | But in GNOME, you'd lose all your preferences for everything in GNOME. | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | From Mutter to the Shell to every single app. | Jul 01 21:38 |
| MinceR | inb4 oiaohm_ mentions that slowlaris had registry before winblows | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | They set out to recreate the Windows Registry. :P | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | So if you lose one file, you're kind of screwed. | Jul 01 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't control the entire OS though, so your OS will still boot. :P | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | gnome used to not control the entire os | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | then systemd happened | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | though they probably have yet to 'integrate' dconf into systemd | Jul 01 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | systemd and wayland are now dependencies of GNOME. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Right now they are soft dependencies. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Only certain features are lost if you don't have systemd, like multiseat. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | but what are you gonna do without multiseat? | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | what's the point of life without multiseat? | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | At some point in the future, when Wayland is sufficiently stable, the GNOME and GTK backends for X11 will be removed, I'm sure. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | no, well before wayland is sufficiently stable | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | remember, you're talking about gnome | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, FreeBSD still has GNOME. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | not for long | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Multiseat doesn't work, but everything else does. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of carrying ConsoleKit and patching it back into GNOME, they decided to drop multiseat. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really a feature most people use. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland wasn't designed to be used on FreeBSD either. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It makes heavy use of Linux-only features. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if the BSDs want it, they will need to implement those features first. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | The BSD folks hate Linux though. They hate Linux more than they like BSD. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | There really isn't a whole lot of demand for BSD as a good desktop OS, so I doubt fixing it up is a high priority. | Jul 01 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was a bit aggravated when fesco decided to rename Fedora's GNOME spin to "Fedora Workstation". | Jul 01 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like you can't have a workstation if you don't run GNOME. | Jul 01 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm more or less happy with GNOME the way I have it set up, but the GNOME developers really pushed hard for their broken GNOME 3 HIG and made it too painful to even consider trying to fix it for years. | Jul 01 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Now they gave up and declared that they won't break the extensions every release anymore. | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | afaict the freebsd folks love windows and macos more than they love freebsd | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | so them hating everything linux isn't exactly a surprise | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | lol @ running redhat crap (and especially gnome) on an alleged "workstation" | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | "here's my workstation. i use it for rebooting 9001 times a day." | Jul 01 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can run RHEL as a desktop. They offer a subscription that isn't THAT expensive, but the subscription is really for support. | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | sure i can | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | but i'm not a masochist | Jul 01 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't need support you can use CentOS for free. | Jul 01 21:48 |
| MinceR | so i won't | Jul 01 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat doesn't mind CentOS, and in fact they encourage it. | Jul 01 21:48 |
| MinceR | you can even use centos, and if you're lucky, dbus, systemd and packagekit will even let you have a bit of cpu time for your applications. | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | ratcrap bought centos | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | they couldn't stand not having direct control over it | Jul 01 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's not hard to see why. You start out with CentOS and you learn the Red Hat way to administer the system and then maybe later you need support and you can turn it into RHEL in-place with a few commands. | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/arctoplabs/status/881244610739175424 | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arctoplabs https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | you start out with centos and learn it's not worth bothering with, then you move on to devuan or slackware or funtoo | Jul 01 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 21:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jul 01 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 21:50 | |
| MinceR | correction | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | you can't reboot a "workstation" running cancerd 9001 times a day | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | it can't boot that fast | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | oh the irony. | Jul 01 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Will Red Hat have a majority on the CentOS Governing Board? | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Between current CentOS Project team members hired by Red Hat, and existing Red Hat employees forming the initial board, Red Hat employees comprise the majority of the Governing Board. Based upon the merit criteria, the existing board may nominate additional board members from either within or outside of Red Hat. The board is capped at a total of 11 directors and must consist of a majority of Red Hat employees." | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Oh wow. | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | They took it over quietly by insisting on a majority on the CentOS board. | Jul 01 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Scientific Linux still exists. | Jul 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | they're all about leverage | Jul 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | just like another corporation based in a settlement the name of which starts with an R | Jul 01 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Red Hat gain by taking over CentOS? | Jul 01 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's still just a clone of RHEL. | Jul 01 21:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to make sense | Jul 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | much of what they do doesn't | Jul 01 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Fedora is moving towards a rolling release, slowly. | Jul 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Jul 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | that's one way in which it could become even more of a toy | Jul 01 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Testing before packages go into Rawhide and no more alpha releases seems like the start of that. | Jul 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | besides, they stopped even trying to be stable ages ago | Jul 01 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Wanting to make Rawhide into something you *could* use daily with only minor problems instead of "Yeah, it breaks every few weeks. Watch out." seems logical. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | minor problems? | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | they don't need minor problems, they have systemd, gnome and YUM | Jul 01 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fedor 26 isn't even out yet and they're currently carrying 79 patches against the latest version of systemd. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's alarming, really. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | carrying patches against systemd means they carry systemd | Jul 01 22:02 |
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| MinceR | and that's quite alarming | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Release now, turn your Enterprise Linux users into beta testers. | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Patch as you go. :P | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | "enterprise" | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | why does it increasingly look like "enterprise" is a derogatory term? | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | That 4 GB memory leak in 18 days on RHEL is something that wouldn't have been tolerated until RHEL 7. | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | By the time they stabilize one thing, they've already released a brand new replacement for something else. | Jul 01 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | So part of your system is always not working quite right. | Jul 01 22:03 |
| MinceR | they stabilize things? | Jul 01 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | And every time, it ends up in the majority of Linux distributions, except for the weird ones that nobody uses. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | i thought they just abandoned them and started over from zero | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | like this: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Jul 01 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT Model | Jul 01 22:04 | |
| MinceR | i assure you some people do use the weird ones | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | i'm typing on one of them right now :> | Jul 01 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | By the time GNOME 2.32 came along, it was working well. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have never seen a registry on solaris. Binary logging systems yes. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | A little too well.... | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | BAM! GNOME 3. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so lendows does copy windows, after all | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll do it again soon I'm sure. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris had directories filled with xml files. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is nearly at the point where GNOME 2 was when they trashed it. | Jul 01 22:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Jul 01 22:06 |
| MinceR | sure, gnome2 was shit, but it wasn't gnome3 | Jul 01 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | The MATE fork seems alright except for missing HiDPI support. | Jul 01 22:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen a registry in systemd or gnome. I have seen the interdependant files that solaris had. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has a MATE spin but it's crap. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't bother to set it up well like Ubuntu MATE or Linux Mint do. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu MATE doesn't use Compiz by default. It uses Marco with software compositing, but you can chaange it to hardware compositing if you want. | Jul 01 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz was never very stable. | Jul 01 22:09 |
| MinceR | compiz was never stable | Jul 01 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/intro-smf-basics-s11-1729181.html | Jul 01 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Introducing the Basics of Service Management Facility (SMF) on Oracle Solaris 11 | Jul 01 22:09 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository is what solaris would call something like gconf in gnome. | Jul 01 22:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, extra points for building it into the hairball | Jul 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | "This is, I think, the most common way for my bug reports to open source software projects to ever become closed. I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version." | Jul 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've reported about 30 bugs in various open source products this past month. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | One of them has been fixed upstream. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | WebkitGTK+ rendering some pages and then displaying a blank white page instead. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They tracked it back to a commit from June of 2015. | Jul 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, This had the hilarious effect of making Midori unable to render midori-browser.org | Jul 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 01 22:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first appearance of the term configuration repository relates to CDE applications stacking all their configurations under ~/.dt | Jul 01 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently Midori can't render its own website for two years if you compile with Webkit2 version of WebkitGTK+ and nobody filed a bug report about it until I found it, MinceR | Jul 01 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | How do you miss THAT? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| MinceR | by not using midori | Jul 01 22:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it called what QA | Jul 01 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | The people who write Midori don't actually compile with all possible backends and then test them? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly very common in open source. Person is scratching itch so only test what they use unless it mandated. | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, totally an open source thing | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | like windows | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | they never test it | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | because it's open source | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | i'll look for another example | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | microsoft office! | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | no, wait, that's not it either | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I said it common in open source. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's so specific to open source | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | I did not say closed did not suffer from it. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Closed source is likely not to test at all. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | it's why the morons of redmond realized their usb stack was a pile of garbage and replaced with the one from freebsd | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | oh wait, they never fixed it. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | So it broken in all forms. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is about to be finalized and it's got quite a few bugs left and some are quite serious. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I even had a kernel oops yesterday. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Open source at least 1 option works if you know what one. | Jul 01 22:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a difference. | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | m$, with the help of ibm and crApple, made it acceptable and even expected in IT that products just don't work | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | people don't bat an eye if they have to reboot because the software or the hardware has shit the bed again | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | testing and bugfixing is considered a waste of resources | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | nowadays we can be glad if the product has any useful functionality that works at all | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | as the example of the iPhone shows, people actually don't insist on it anymore | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796#c3 | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Get this one... | Jul 01 22:19 |
| MinceR | they don't even expect it anymore | Jul 01 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 173796 – [GStreamer] Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jul 01 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Michael Catanzaro 2017-06-23 18:35:53 PDT | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Hey Victor, any chance you have time to look into this one? | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | (Also... is gstreamer1-vaapi intended to be installed by default by distros? Because right now, it's not. It's really not great that we have two different sets of bugs depending on whether this package is installed or not.) | Jul 01 22:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note I said open source test what they use. Note what you said testing and bugfixing to closed source waste of resources. Unless it manated you can bet on closed source not having any testing at all. | Jul 01 22:19 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i was hoping for a screenshot | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Without vaapi, it just melts your laptop when you play a video, but with vaapi, it corrupts the video sometimes. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, in software in general, untested products are common | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: decisions, decisions | Jul 01 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | So it's unusable either way. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: or you could try some other browser engine :> | Jul 01 22:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: level of untested is different. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they all suck, but some of them might suck less in this particular way | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I bumped my WebkitGTK+ package to 2.16.5 the other day. Turns out it doesn't fix any of the problems I've had. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | What a shock. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Crashing when trying to save images on certain sites. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Blank white page instead of rendering some sites. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Video corruption with vaapi enabled. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Melting laptop without vaapi. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that VA-API play back issue. If you can download the video and play it in vlc forced to VA-API. I have had a few cases where it VA-API busted. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, but please let's work on sync that uses Firefox Sync servers but doesn't actually sync with Firefox.... | Jul 01 22:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I have also had a few cases where it gstreamer. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Firefox Sync support only syncs your Epiphany (GNOME Web) stuff with other Epiphany browsers. | Jul 01 22:23 |
| MinceR | i don't trust these sync things | Jul 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has no compatibility with Firefox at all. Mozilla is said to be discussing ways to sync <> Epiphany. | Jul 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | That *would* be cool, but I see where this could end up being just another broken feature that lingers for a while and gets backed out. | Jul 01 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | The video quality of HEVC doesn't seem to fit the hype. | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | People are using it at half the bitrate of their old H264 releases and it does not look "Just as good at half the bitrate.". | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Am I the only person with eyes that work? | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that it makes some improvements to H264 bu they've been totally exaggerated. | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | of course they are, the clock is ticking | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | H264 patents will expire eventually | Jul 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | This sounds like Microsoft WMA all over again. "Just as good as MP3 at half the bitrate!". | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | they'll have to get the suckers to depend on newer patents | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | preferably with mandatory DRM | Jul 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Netflix is moving to it. Perhaps the bandwidth savings are worth the patent royalty fees? | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | perhaps they get a discount | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | for getting suckers into the racket | Jul 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably also want to get the streams as small as possible to deal with the shitty internet providers in the US like Comcast who have their foot on the hose. :P | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | it won't work | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | comcast can restrict bandwidth as much as they want to | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | no miracle codec will help with that | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | has the orange-skinned psychopath eliminated the last vestiges of net neutrality yet? | Jul 01 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | His saboteur at the FCC is working on the process. They even had a pretend public comment phase and then closed it without paying attention to the public outrage. | Jul 01 22:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 01 22:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/h264_2012/mpeg4_avc_h264_video_codecs_comparison.pdf the improvement over H264 that H265 HEVC is a little hard. Thinking the open source x264 performs the best out of the H264 encoders. | Jul 01 22:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: most of the compares of H265 HEVC are against the standard closed source H264 encoder. | Jul 01 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've been happy enough with h.264. | Jul 01 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | People used to distribute videos using divx and it was awful. | Jul 01 22:36 |
| oiaohm | There is a divx H264 | Jul 01 22:36 |
| oiaohm | and that one is the closed source standard one. | Jul 01 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | ASP codecs just generally did not produce good quality files. | Jul 01 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes H265 closed source kicks the ass out divx H264. Not so good against x264 | Jul 01 22:37 |
| oiaohm | So it what you compare to. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| oiaohm | Now when H265 patents expire and open source developers can play with it who knows how good it will be. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's good that we have open source because you can have a nasty maintainer of an open source project that acts like Hitler with it or tries to close it up again and delete the source code with no warning. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | But other projects can simply fork it. | Jul 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | So I simply switched to xvid when that happened and everything was okay again. | Jul 01 22:39 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue with x264 is performance in encoding. | Jul 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid#Sigma_Designs_controversy | Jul 01 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Xvid - Wikipedia | Jul 01 22:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, the same thing happened with Parallels Desktop (commonly used on Macs to run Windows in a VM). They stole a bunch of Wine Direct3D code and were refusing to comply with the license for a while. | Jul 01 22:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: xvid is H.263 and x264 contains a lot of features from xvid that made it good. | Jul 01 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The same companies that tell us that piracy is a crime (Sony for example) end up pirating open source software an awful lot. Sony used LAME in violation of the GPL and the MPAA used Xubuntu in violation of the GPL and many other licenses. | Jul 01 22:42 |
| oiaohm | I remember the Parallel one codeweavers got to first court hearing against them before they backed down. | Jul 01 22:45 |
| oiaohm | Codeweavers will serous-ally legally protect wine. | Jul 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | B$A also got caught for reproducing comments on laws from CompLex's Jogtar illegally | Jul 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | not sure if they got punished for it though | Jul 01 22:47 |
| MinceR | but the double standard is apparent | Jul 01 22:47 |
| oiaohm | The funny one was Microsoft windows iso writer using GPL. | Jul 01 22:47 |
| oiaohm | http://winsupersite.com/news/rafael-vindicated-microsoft-did-steal-open-source-code-usbdvd-tool | Jul 01 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winsupersite.com | Rafael is Vindicated: Microsoft Did Steal Open Source Code for USB/DVD Tool | News content from SuperSite for Windows | Jul 01 22:49 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-reason | Jul 01 23:22 |
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| Elon_Satoshi | MinceR: That can't be real | Jul 01 23:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 23:37 |
| Elon_Satoshi | I'm trying to install Parabola Linux on my laptop. AFAIK the best GNU approved operating system | Jul 01 23:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Calibre, #juju, #Wine, #Castle #GameEngine, | Jun 25 00:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Budgie and #LatteDock | Jun 25 00:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Calibre, juju, Wine, Castle Game Engine, Budgie and Latte Dock | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878756684382031872 | Jun 25 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flirting With #RedHat and #Fedora #Games Spin 25 | Jun 25 00:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/enO5ITFOSO (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 25 00:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flirting With Red Hat and Fedora Games Spin 25 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 25 00:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 25 00:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Calibre, #juju, #Wine, #Castle #GameEngine, | Jun 25 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Budgie and #LatteDock | Jun 25 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Bt4cmLs7hr (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde | Jun 25 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Calibre, juju, Wine, Castle Game Engine, Budgie and Latte Dock | Tux Machines | Jun 25 01:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 25 01:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/w_salan/status/878774064017526784 | Jun 25 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Profit Climbs 10% | Jun 25 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @w_salan https://t.co/w2rzLiFza9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 25 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Profit Climbs 10% | Tux Machines | Jun 25 01:37 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 25 01:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vee_liang/status/878793277956292608 | Jun 25 03:15 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm considering Private Internet Access. | Jun 25 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | Has anyone here used it and how is it? | Jun 25 04:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 05:05 | |
| cubexyz | ha | Jun 25 05:24 |
| cubexyz | in the movie Snowden smuggles a microSD card via rubik's cube | Jun 25 05:24 |
| cubexyz | I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 05:25 |
| cubexyz | maybe Snowden could score me some Dell BIOS source code | Jun 25 05:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/scas/status/878826538950684672 | Jun 25 05:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RaspberryPi Foundation's #Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased | Jun 25 05:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @scas on #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 25 05:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 05:28 | |
| cubexyz | and it seems Snowden BSed a bit about his resume | Jun 25 05:28 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 25 09:07 | |
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| schestowitz | [05:25] <cubexyz> I wonder if he really did that | Jun 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | I think they just identified in him the mall or whatever in HK this way | Jun 25 09:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't think he used it to smuggle the data | Jun 25 09:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878888241629364224 | Jun 25 09:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Openwashing and Spin | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878890534739300352 | Jun 25 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Jun 25 09:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/Bq0zzizYwA (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 25 09:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 BETA3 | Tux Machines | Jun 25 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498 | Jun 25 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framapiaf.org | Framapiaf | Jun 25 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | "https://framapiaf.org/users/DanielVerite/updates/101498" | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/878891113284870145 | Jun 25 09:23 |
| schestowitz | techrights blocked in some places in France? | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 09:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | " Comparing to another traceroute that succeeds, I suspect it's the final node (204.68.122.43) that filters me out when I come from 176.182.10.*" | Jun 25 09:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ip-tracker.org/locator/ip-lookup.php?ip=Tuxmachines.org | Jun 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Jun 25 09:26 |
| schestowitz | so maybe it's our side... | Jun 25 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tuxmachines.org - American Internet Services, LLC. In San Diego United States | IP-Tracker.org Lookup Locator [ http://ur1.ca/r26a4 ] | Jun 25 09:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/esme35975435/status/878901000018337792 | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by The account @tuxmachines in #mastodon got more followers | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @esme35975435 in 3 months than it got in #twitter in 3 years | Jun 25 10:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Twitter is crap. It's the old tech. | Jun 25 10:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/878907235098927105 | Jun 25 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft Breaches and Their Impact | Jun 25 10:29 |
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| schestowitz | nice! | Jun 25 16:59 |
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| MinceR | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2017/06/msg00308.html | Jun 25 18:06 |
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| MinceR | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/australia-to-target-encrypted-messaging-apps-at-upcoming-security-meeting/ | Jun 25 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Australia advocates weakening strong crypto at upcoming “Five Eyes” meeting | Ars Technica | Jun 25 19:01 | |
| schestowitz | seen it | Jun 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | typical fieve eyes | Jun 25 19:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #gnu | Jun 25 19:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation's Raspbian OS to Soon Be Rebased on Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 25 19:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959465#post959465 | Jun 25 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | "More like dangerous to run Debian. You're telling me that I'm supposed to run this crap on a production system and disable one of the biggest perks of having a Core i7? HAHA! No. Their refusal to ship device firmware is really stupid. The whole reason we have firmware is to avoid precisely this kind of situation. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Back in the 90s when Intel processors didn't have replaceable firmware, things like the Pendtium FDIV and F00F bugs required removing the processor and sending it to Intel for a replacement. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | The processors that misbehave under Debian won't misbehave under Fedora, because Fedora ships and updates linux-firmware quite often. Also, my wifi works. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny how Debian goes to all this trouble to be "Free", but then they package things like Widevine, Flash, RAR, etc. and just say that it's not officially part of Debian. The FSF has Debian on the non-recommended list of distributions even though Debian policy makes it much harder than necessary to set your computer up properly and most people end up figuring out a way to get the firmware anyway because they have devices that don't | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | work without it. There is no functional difference, spare a little disk space used, of making available and pre-installing the firmware, since if you don't have the device, it will never get loaded, and few (if any) users want their computer to be non-functional in some way if it's missing. | Jun 25 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is actually more Free by the FSF's own guidelines than Debian is. While Fedora ships firmware, the FSF would declare Debian non-Free for suggesting the firmware or making it available, which it does, but Fedora does not suggest, pre-install, or make available the non-Free software that is hosted by Debian. They don't stop you from installing it yourself from RPM Fusion and they don't try to break it (which would make an operating | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | system non-Free if it did), but RPM Fusion is another project that is not made available by default or recommended by the Fedora project websites. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | While there is some effort to set Fedora up, critical hardware isn't broken out-of-the-box simply due to lack of firmware. Debian has picked some odd policies and it continues to do so. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Also, after a while, Debian Stable becomes crusty enough that it won't work properly on new-ish hardware. Not only is the kernel Linux that it ships with sufficiently old that it still has a bunch of Skylake behavior that will make your laptop less efficient and will run down your battery, they insist on breaking the wifi chip until you can install the iwlwifi firmware (which is more of a pain because modern laptops don't have ethernet | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | ports!), *and* to top it off, if you don't disable Hyperthreading, then certain Skylake processors will malfunction on Debian unless the manufacturer releases a new BIOS, which, guess what, probably only installs if you have Windows(!) all because Debian won't ship firmware for the kernel to replace on boot to solve things like this, like a sane OS does. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even consider Debian. The people making their policies are braindead. There shouldn't be a struggle to set up a modern operating system. Sure, there are things to install and settings to tweak in Fedora, but it's not effing broken right out of the gate. | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I pretty much use Fedora because on other distributions my laptop is somewhat broken and finding out why or fixing it robs me of the time that I could be using my computer. If I ever want Long Term Stable, I'll go with CentOS. Whenever 8 is out, I guess. You could conceivably install CentOS and never have to do a distribution upgrade again. It's supported for longer than a Debian Stable or Ubuntu LTS, and it gets feature and | Jun 25 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | driver backports." | Jun 25 20:08 |
| schestowitz | ta | Jun 25 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, TL;DR: The Debian policies are nonsensical, break hardware, and burden the user, and they're still not FSF Free. | Jun 25 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | So they have nothing to show for it except another spot on the list of operating systems that the FSF does not recommend. It has to be even more broken than out-of-box Debian for them to get behind it. | Jun 25 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | The FSF was recommending Nvidia cards for a while because of Nouveau reverse engineering the firmware, but then Nvidia stepped in and made their non-Free firmware redistributable, so Nouveau users get that now. | Jun 25 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | On older cards too, because the reverse engineered firmware didn't always set up the card properly. | Jun 25 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia still isn't assisting Nouveau to the level that Intel or AMD assist the Free driver projects. | Jun 25 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia gives them some firmware blobs and minimal documentation on how to setup the cards. Some information defining registers, etc. It's nothing that you could make a driver that competes with Nvidia proprietary from. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | They consider Nouveau to be a broken stub driver like NV was until you get around to installing theirs. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | By the time Nouveau works as well as theirs does, the hardware is 5-6 years old. | Jun 25 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's proprietary driver has a bunch of cases where if you are using OpenGL properly, it's slooooooow, so video game publishers just code for the Nvidia driver now and tell AMD/Intel users to fuck right off. | Jun 25 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Civilization 6 does that. | Jun 25 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | There are other games competing for my money though, so by coding for Nvidia only, they're losing their opportunity. | Jun 25 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus?p=959470#post959470 | Jun 25 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums | Jun 25 20:34 | |
| DaemonFC | "AMD has had nasty bugs too. Remember the original Phenom? They disabled TLB and made the processors slower, like, by double digit (10-20%) percentages. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | So you had a choice. If you weren't running into the problem, you could choose not to update your BIOS, and if you were affected and wanted to do something to avoid triggering it, it was like a major processor downgrade. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | You can read about the bugs that end up affecting AMD processors because they publish them in Erratum. They're really intended to document the problems for people like Linux kernel developers, so they fly under the radar usually, but there are a lot of them. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Like with Intel, most can be fixed, but only if you run newer firmware, which Debian won't include. So under Debian, you're basically running with the firmware that the BIOS loaded when the computer booted up, regardless of if it's broken and by how much. | Jun 25 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these bugs end up creating security vulnerabilities, so even if you run a fully patched Debian, without the firmware updates, you aren't getting the fixes applied to the firmware by the hardware vendor." | Jun 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | funny thing is, intel's list of cpus their firmware update applies to omits all i7s | Jun 25 20:35 |
| MinceR | also i3, i5 and i9 | Jun 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | but who uses those, right? | Jun 25 20:37 |
| MinceR | and lenovo, in their infinite wisdom, removed the bios setup option where you could disable ht | Jun 25 20:38 |
| MinceR | because nobody could ever possibly have any reason to do so | Jun 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=2017-Linux-Laptop-Survey-Early | Jun 25 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Early Look At Our 2017 Linux Laptop Survey Results So Far - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2bcn ] | Jun 25 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I filled out the laptop survey | Jun 25 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like 90% of people who end up running Linux who answered the survey got there by nuking Windows and installing Linux after the fact. | Jun 25 20:39 |
| MinceR | that's a lot of people who use gnu/linux and yet are willing to hand information to a site that is openly hostile to gnu/linux | Jun 25 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora was at 14%. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu at 39%. Really? Ubuntu is hell. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | ah yes, the "i wish i was using windows" distros | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I get weird bugs caused by their broken patches. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | > docs.google.com | Jun 25 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | yeah, right | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I can't be the only one that happens to. | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | yeah, ubuntu sucsk | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | s/sk/ks/ | Jun 25 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | "Lenovo was the most popular laptop brand at 40%." | Jun 25 20:40 |
| MinceR | they patched systray support out of Liferea even though it was already optional | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | I had to fight like hell just to get them to release a BIOS that allowed me to install Linux to the SSD on this computer. | Jun 25 20:41 |
| MinceR | doing extra work just to screw the user! | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're back at it apparently, releasing BIOSes with RAID lock. | Jun 25 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, Ubuntu is so fucked that Kubuntu had to make an indicators plasma widget in the system tray to support applications that Ubuntu had patched systray support out of. | Jun 25 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Which means that the KDE apps use systray and the rest use indicators, and Kubuntu put in a kludge so that they can deal with that without the user noticing. | Jun 25 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't get why people use Ubuntu. | Jun 25 20:43 |
| MinceR | same reason they use other lendows distros | Jun 25 20:44 |
| MinceR | they like to suffer | Jun 25 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's this large and growing and increasingly profitable business and it's still acting like it's someone's Kickstarter project that shames you into donating to it. | Jun 25 20:44 |
| MinceR | if people had a clue, it would not be profitable | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It actually has a donation page on the download links that asks you to donate. They support Paypal and Bitcoin and Flattr and a bunch of others. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | but apparently fucking things up is the biggest business in our society | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I suppose people are actually just funding broken NIH crap that eventually crawls into a corner and dies. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | if only it died | Jun 25 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | None of the software that Ubuntu developed itself succeeded. | Jun 25 20:45 |
| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/1246134916.jpg | Jun 25 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Amazon crapware actually provoked one reviewer, don't remember who, to comment "This is like getting a new PC with Windows and having to immediately figure out how to uninstall the bloatware.". | Jun 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | that's easy, they didn't develop much | Jun 25 20:46 |
| MinceR | they'll go with the atrocious choices debian makes, knowing they're atrocious, just to avoid doing a bit of work | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They've actually had a lot of big and failed projects. | Jun 25 20:47 |
| MinceR | not big enough | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart, Unity, Mir, Unity 8 (never saw the light of day), indicators... | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Snappy will fail too. | Jun 25 20:47 |
| MinceR | well, i guess they're bigger than "just switch upstream to devuan" | Jun 25 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They were paying a team of developers to create all these dead end projects. | Jun 25 20:48 |
| MinceR | so i really don't get these people | Jun 25 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually Shuttleworth decided that he wanted to be let up for air and canceled them to save himself money. | Jun 25 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Mir and Unity 8 made no sense to continue. Without Ubuntu on devices, they're pouring hundreds of thousandss of dollars into Unity 8 to put on people's desktops for free? | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | That won't work. | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Their goal all along has been to subvert standards and destroy consensus. | Jun 25 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | They mask it with their "Code of Conduct" and whatnot. | Jun 25 20:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CoreOS and OpenStack News | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It was actually kind of funny. Some other distributions tried to package and support Unity and they gave up because it would require breaking a ton of other software or patching things like indicators out of Unity. | Jun 25 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879064376808001537 | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 20:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 20:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879064614750834691 | Jun 25 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/X2EAU6IHaw | Jun 25 20:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 25 20:53 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So, what are they doing with Gnome. They said they're dropping "hundreds" of patches that were there to support Unity, but there's already a "unity-session" in Ubuntu 17.10 that is still in Main, and it brings in Unity 7. | Jun 25 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're stuck supporting Unity 7 at least until 16.04 LTS is out of support in 2021, so might as well make it available, I guess, but it can probably only decay out of the context of 16.04. | Jun 25 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Newer Gnome software will be brought in on newer releases and eventually Unity is going to fall apart. | Jun 25 20:57 |
| MinceR | 25 215127 < DaemonFC> I commented on one distribution that Unity was like a flaming pile of dogshit that someone left on your front porch. You don't take it inside. | Jun 25 20:59 |
| MinceR | some people do take that inside, though | Jun 25 21:00 |
| MinceR | it just needs a helpful "microsoft", "apple" or "red hat" logo | Jun 25 21:00 |
| MinceR | that's all it takes | Jun 25 21:00 |
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| DaemonFC | <KtecK> hmm some of those linux shipping laptops do look pretty cool.. too bad they only support linux | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> My minecraft video hasn't got good bit of views.. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <Shed-34046> Maybe i should just give a few more days before making a new video.. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> KtecK, Maybe get one from LOL NO! Vo that only supports Windows? | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> They're back at it again with sabotaged BIOSes that lock you to "RAID". | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Makes it impossible to install Linux unless they go back and fix it at some point. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> I've started recommending the Dell XPS Developer Edition or System76 because at least you know it boots Ubuntu, which gives you a way in to install Fedora. :) | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> The XPS Developer Edition that supports Linux is about the same price as a similarly configured LOL NO! Vo with the BIOS locked to prevent Linux. | Jun 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | my favorite kind of RAID is the one that's built from 1 device | Jun 25 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jun 25 21:02 |
| MinceR | all the XPS Developer Edition lacks is build quality and warranty support | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | but i guess some people don't need that | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | maybe you can restrain the lid with a board nailed to the wall so the hinges being total garbage won't matter | Jun 25 21:03 |
| MinceR | just don't move it. ever. | Jun 25 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> LOL NO! Vo's favorite "RAID" is one that is built around one storage device to trick Windows into loading a power management policy from Intel because there's no other way to do a driver override on Crap OS. | Jun 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Maybe in some future mandatory upgrade and randome reboot funtime. | Jun 25 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | I stole that from MinceR | Jun 25 21:05 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/compatibilism | Jun 25 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Compatibilism | Jun 25 21:05 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> What? You lost $40,000 of scientific research to Windows 10? Should have read the EULA! | Jun 25 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> Oh no! All of your Azure Red Hat instances got blue pilled? Do the EULA HULA! | Jun 25 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/24/microsoft_windows_10_update/ | Jun 25 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | 'Windows 10 destroyed our data!' Microsoft hauled into US court • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/r2bls ] | Jun 25 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC | The complaint [PDF], filed in Chicago's US District Court on Thursday, charges that Microsoft Windows 10 is a defective product and that its maker failed to provide adequate warning about the potential risks posed by Windows 10 installation – specifically system stability and data loss. | Jun 25 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft "failed to exercise reasonable care in designing, formulating, and manufacturing the Windows 10 upgrade and placing it into the stream of commerce," the complaint claims. "As a result of its failure to exercise reasonable care, [the company] distributed an operating system that was liable to cause loss of data or damage to hardware." | Jun 25 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | The attorneys representing the trio are seeking to have the case certified as a class action that includes every person in the US who upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and suffered data loss or damage to software or hardware within 30 days of installation. They claim there are hundreds or thousands of affected individuals. | Jun 25 21:09 |
| MinceR | the warning was there | Jun 25 21:11 |
| MinceR | it said "Microsoft" right on the box! | Jun 25 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A man was killed by the CTA Pride Train. | Jun 25 21:16 |
| MinceR | what's that? | Jun 25 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | It was approaching Sox-35th when a man riding his bicycle on the platform lost his balance and fell over onto the tracks. | Jun 25 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | The rainbow colored train that CTA has for Chicago's Pride festival. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 25 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I hate it when people ride their bikes on the platform. It's not even allowed. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, he died so he won't be doing that again. | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | natural selection | Jun 25 21:17 |
| MinceR | it's good that they sometimes still allow it to function | Jun 25 21:18 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/iXKqW | Jun 25 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-how to find out if your the father - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 21:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/OsanaGp/status/879066810406064133 | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @OsanaGp #WannaCry | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vMpmRvxZrs (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nsa | Jun 25 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OpenVPN, Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at WannaCry | Tux Machines | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @sectest9 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RandellSands retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @CoreMedNetwork favourited 'Security: #OpenVPN, #Intel Nightmare, Looking Back at #WannaCry...' | Jun 25 21:25 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/comely http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1496933348-20170608after.png | Jun 25 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Comely | Jun 25 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464732 | Jun 25 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1464732 – Gnome fails to start when SELinux boolean deny_execmem is turned on. | Jun 25 21:46 | |
| MinceR | at least it saves you from the pain of having to endure gnome | Jun 25 21:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmm. | Jun 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | That's strange. | Jun 25 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trying to reproduce the broken PART messages in Pidgin for a bug report. | Jun 25 21:55 |
| MinceR | lol, pidgin | Jun 25 21:55 |
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| DaemonFC1 | Strange. | Jun 25 21:56 |
| *DaemonFC1 is now known as DaemonFC | Jun 25 21:56 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/US2wA | Jun 25 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Last one I promise - Album on Imgur | Jun 25 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC | I can't make it do it now. | Jun 25 21:56 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, With the IRC Helper and IRC More plugins, it's a decent client. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| MinceR | yeah, i can see :> | Jun 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | Oh wow, somebody uses Pidgin for IRC but me. | Jun 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | At least I know I'm mad :). | Jun 25 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in Hexchat right now. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | Hopefully someone ports it to GTK+ 3 at some point. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Pidgin 3.x (git master) is Gtk3 only. | Jun 25 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | oops, hg master | Jun 25 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | confused it for gajim for a moment, which migrated to git :) | Jun 25 22:00 |
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| DaemonFC | The way Xchat supported Windows was pretty weird. | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac#configure.ac-57 die proof | Jun 25 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket | Jun 25 22:02 | |
| XRevan86 | * https://bitbucket.org/pidgin/main/src/default/configure.ac?fileviewer=file-view-default#configure.ac-573 | Jun 25 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bitbucket.org | pidgin / main / source / configure.ac — Bitbucket [ http://ur1.ca/r2bzu ] | Jun 25 22:02 | |
| MinceR | s/weird/shitty and illegal/ | Jun 25 22:02 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Jun 25 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Zed stripped a bunch of stuff out of GTK+ that Xchat wasn't using and called it MikiGTK and linked to that. | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Were MikiGTK sources available? | Jun 25 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/ seems so | Jun 25 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xchat.org | Index of /files/binary/win32/mini-src [ http://ur1.ca/r2c0a ] | Jun 25 22:03 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why illegal? | Jun 25 22:03 |
| MinceR | because the latest version of xchat was always proprietary | Jun 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | even though the sources they used were copyleft | Jun 25 22:04 |
| MinceR | the sources released were always at least 1 version behind | Jun 25 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe the author was the sole owner of the thing | Jun 25 22:05 |
| MinceR | afaik he wasn't | Jun 25 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | Why wouldn't he… unless he's ignorant about how things work | Jun 25 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | Oh well, it's all in the past :). Vivu HexChat | Jun 25 22:07 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/spandrels http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1497013224-20170609after.png | Jun 25 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Spandrels [ http://ur1.ca/r2c1v ] | Jun 25 22:08 | |
| MinceR | because he's like cisco | Jun 25 22:08 |
| MinceR | the rules don't apply to him | Jun 25 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The problem with the GPL is that many copyright holders don't assert their rights. | Jun 25 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | So violators don't have any reason to be concerned. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| MinceR | yes, that's one of the problems with the GPL | Jun 25 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Happens with Linux all the time. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's never Linux copyright holders that sue, it's Busybox. | Jun 25 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | and now proprietary distribution makers have toybox, what a joy | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Which is why Sony started Toybox. So they can keep violating the license on Linux and other stuff and the Busybox people can't sue them. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, that. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Linux license is a paper tiger. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | In many ways, it may as well be licensed BSD. | Jun 25 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Although many companies comply because they are concerned about what might happen if they don't. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| MinceR | but then we wouldn't get the downsides of GPL | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one case where Matthew Garrett did enforce his rights. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Against the MPAA, which was illegally distributing Xubuntu. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There are no downsiders if one ignores the licence. | Jun 25 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | downsides* | Jun 25 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They rigged it up into spyware that universities were supposed to install so the MPAA could monitor their network. | Jun 25 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | He got them to take it down. | Jun 25 22:12 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: that would only be true if one was alone in the universe | Jun 25 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: upsides and downsides exist only if the licensing is relevant | Jun 25 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | and if it is, then GPL has many upsides | Jun 25 22:14 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: different people and organizations have different views on whether licensing is relevant | Jun 25 22:14 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 26 01:21 | |
| cubexyz | the amiga 1080 was made in nov. 1985 | Jun 26 01:21 |
| cubexyz | I have a special watch-list for amiga monitors I'm looking for | Jun 26 01:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/amiga-monitors.txt | Jun 26 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to test out higan 103's Sega Genesis emulation later. | Jun 26 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | The release notes say it's quite usable, even though it's not the best emulator for those systems yet. | Jun 26 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to have everything under one roof, and his SNES emulation is excellent. | Jun 26 01:30 |
| cubexyz | yeah, I wouldn't mind getting a monitor that works for a sega genesis | Jun 26 01:30 |
| cubexyz | you can see the problem | Jun 26 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I think so. | Jun 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | What are you using for IRC? Emacs? | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | no, I'm using xchat on openbsd | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | I can't stand emacs :) | Jun 26 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there's that at least. | Jun 26 01:31 |
| cubexyz | also that's why I never bought a vax.... because of monitor availability | Jun 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Jamie Zawinski tried making it better with Xemacs, but Stallman wouldn't merge the improvements, or had the GNU version reimplement them. | Jun 26 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | At this point, not only s Xemacs dead, but it's probably impossible to merge even if someone wanted to. | Jun 26 01:33 |
| cubexyz | emacs or (xemacs) used the athena widget set | Jun 26 01:34 |
| cubexyz | so I do have it, but almost never use it | Jun 26 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 26 01:35 |
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| cubexyz | i'm more of a vi-man | Jun 26 01:35 |
| cubexyz | guess I'm not a true stallmanite :) | Jun 26 01:36 |
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| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/emacs-vs-vi.png | Jun 26 02:06 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/feeble-emacs-user.png | Jun 26 02:11 |
| cubexyz | ok, one more | Jun 26 02:20 |
| cubexyz | http://maxhost.org/other/programmers-life.png | Jun 26 02:20 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 26 04:59 | |
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| oiaohm | https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/24/self-driving-cars-mcity-augmented-reality/ Hmm self drive cars talking to each other I see horrible hacking possibles. | Jun 26 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Self-driving cars are safer when they talk to each other | Jun 26 05:23 | |
| oiaohm | There is a very good reason for self drive cars to be able to operate stand alone. | Jun 26 05:24 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 26 10:18 | |
| cubexyz | well I don't think I've ever experienced a BIOS attack | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | but if I _did_ I know what to do | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | I don't need baked in secret stuff on my motherboard | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | even if a BIOS attack bricked my computer, you know what? | Jun 26 10:33 |
| cubexyz | I just take the chip out of the socket and reprogram it | Jun 26 10:34 |
| cubexyz | so no baked in secret stuff please | Jun 26 10:34 |
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| cubexyz | enough of big brother tactics | Jun 26 10:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-07/Heasman/Presentation/bh-usa-07-heasman.pdf good list of the straight forward bios attacks. | Jun 26 10:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: issue most people make the mistake with is thinking that a bios infection is only hidden in the motherboard bios chip. | Jun 26 10:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: can be hidden in like in video card flash that the bios reads. | Jun 26 10:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I agree I don't want secret stuff hidden in motherboard. I also don't want flash firmwares on items being able to be recoded without my permissions either. | Jun 26 10:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879277739609653248 | Jun 26 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #WannaCry Strikes (Windows in Cameras), Blame | Jun 26 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of FOSS, Elections With #Windows | Jun 26 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7gzzrwEpRn (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: WannaCry Strikes (Windows in Cameras), Blame of FOSS, Elections With Windows | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #WannaCry Strikes (Windows in Cameras), Blame of...' | Jun 26 11:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879282801069182976 | Jun 26 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.12-rc7 https://t.co/7WXHvTfZx3 | Jun 26 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel #gpl | Jun 26 11:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12-rc7 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879283096511807489 | Jun 26 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/mueWiRsjb1 | Jun 26 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 26 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879283564940054528 | Jun 26 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 18 open source translation tools to localize your project | Jun 26 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/LIcbVJfJkD (opensource.com) #freesw | Jun 26 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-18 open source translation tools | Opensource.com | Jun 26 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879284018319151104 | Jun 26 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Devs Urge #Intel #Skylake and #Kaby Lake Users to | Jun 26 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Disable #HyperThreading https://t.co/wSctWYt1ks | Jun 26 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #security #hardware | Jun 26 11:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Devs Urge Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake Users to Disable HyperThreading | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879284435430113280 | Jun 26 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SeriousSam 3 - BFE: #OpenGL vs. #Vulkan With Fusion 2017 | Jun 26 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/fTBpJsQ3I9 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #benchmark #gnu #linux | Jun 26 11:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Serious Sam 3 - BFE: OpenGL vs. Vulkan With Fusion 2017 Update | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879285924961673216 | Jun 26 11:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps #SparkyLinux Users Backup | Jun 26 11:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Their Secret Files https://t.co/edjDQb5Vjd | Jun 26 11:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #privacy is not a crime. #gnu | Jun 26 11:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tomb File Encryption Tool Helps SparkyLinux Users Backup Their Secret Files | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 11:32 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.12-rc7 https://t.co/7WXHvTfZx3 #linux #kernel #gpl' | Jun 26 11:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12-rc7 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 11:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Rick4312/status/879378700193681408 | Jun 26 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LibreOffice 5.3.4 immediately available for download | Jun 26 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Rick4312 https://t.co/30NsgF9uAe (www.tuxmachines.org) #tdf #odf | Jun 26 17:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #opendocument #freesw | Jun 26 17:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks "if you see something, say something," said...' | Jun 26 17:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879382958544736256 | Jun 26 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Latest From #GNOMEBuilder and Older #GNOME News (Catchup) | Jun 26 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dB5fnFmHuh (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 18:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gtk #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest From GNOME Builder and Older GNOME News (Catchup) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Latest From #GNOMEBuilder and Older #GNOME News (Catchup)...' | Jun 26 18:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879385733827571716 | Jun 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A Linux laptop with security at its core: #Purism 's | Jun 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Librem PCs now widely available https://t.co/Pbezx7qFEJ | Jun 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Linux laptop with security at its core: Purism's Librem PCs now widely available | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A Linux laptop with security at its core:...' | Jun 26 18:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879391876176121857 | Jun 26 18:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ManjaroLinux 17.0.2 released (G, K, X) | Jun 26 18:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CSBPUN7mz0 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 17.0.2 released (G, K, X) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879392385037471744 | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How to use #Evernote in Linux https://t.co/2DcIZq5xEr | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) "browser-based version of Evernote" | Jun 26 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | works OK with #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use Evernote in Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#ManjaroLinux 17.0.2 released (G, K, X) https://t.co/CSBPUN7mz0 #gnu...' | Jun 26 18:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How to use #Evernote in Linux https://t.co/2DcIZq5xEr "browser-based...' | Jun 26 18:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879393552077381632 | Jun 26 18:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat News and Finances | Jun 26 18:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 18:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News and Finances | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:40 | |
| MinceR | that's a bingo! | Jun 26 18:40 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat News and Finances https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf #gnu #linux...' | Jun 26 18:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat News and Finances https://t.co/JUYhcMKGxf #gnu #linux...' | Jun 26 18:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879396249832706048 | Jun 26 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform | Jun 26 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Unveils Open Source HCI Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879396777488781313 | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | processors have broken hyper-threading | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/nVQsWEPw3w (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/XeJp71tqs7 (news.softpedia.com) | Jun 26 18:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Linux reveals Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake processors have broken hyper-threading | Tux Machines | Jun 26 18:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian Devs Urge Intel Skylake and Kaby Lake Users to Disable HyperThreading | Jun 26 18:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat Unveils Open Source #HCI Platform https://t.co/H3wnJllFWN' | Jun 26 18:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879398053198925825 | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New user registration page gives permission | Jun 26 18:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | error. You might want to fix that. | Jun 26 18:56 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cosmology | Jun 26 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cosmology [ http://ur1.ca/r2old ] | Jun 26 18:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 19:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879399873069666305 | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SUSE #CaaS Platform | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 (www.tuxmachines.org) another new | Jun 26 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | buzzword. #gnu #linux #server #container | Jun 26 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE CaaS Platform | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879400438201823233 | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mobile workstation https://t.co/jYBZqZjqLG | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 26 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu mobile workstation | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#SUSE #CaaS Platform https://t.co/bAyFDRJ590 another new buzzword. #gnu...' | Jun 26 19:10 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/LpwWjww.gifv | Jun 26 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | I found the sweet spot | Jun 26 19:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Dell Precision 5520 Developer Edition: An amazing Ubuntu...' | Jun 26 19:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879402045673009152 | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #samsung #nokia #google | Jun 26 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #xiaomi #google #sony | Jun 26 19:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Ga9gdYMMKl #android #samsung #nokia #google #linux...' | Jun 26 19:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879403050678538242 | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mINqItpqEF (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 19:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moto C Plus review: Buy it only for Stock Android | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#MotoC Plus review: Buy it only for Stock...' | Jun 26 19:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879404356877131776 | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | inexpensive https://t.co/IwUgeLUcgz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #gentoo | Jun 26 19:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo Flex 11 Chromebook review: Tough, durable and inexpensive | Tux Machines | Jun 26 19:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lenovo Flex 11 #Chromebook review: Tough, durable and...' | Jun 26 19:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it...' | Jun 26 19:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879405524302823425 | Jun 26 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @realDonaldTrump For the US to be safe it needs to get | Jun 26 19:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines rid of bigots like yourself. | Jun 26 19:41 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump For the US to be...' | Jun 26 19:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Debian Linux reveals Intel #Skylake and #KabyLake processors...' | Jun 26 19:57 | |
| MinceR | https://68.media.tumblr.com/85479247b1874cc817f0300a492bbba1/tumblr_inline_os64mabKSD1uc2pje_1280.png | Jun 26 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879413406033424384 | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Motti, HOOK, Maia, Lyndow and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 20:02 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/TwoPaddocks/status/879233937070931968 | Jun 26 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TwoPaddocks: Brexit simplified. https://t.co/KmU8LGgWNg | Jun 26 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wish I could tell you some of the things I know, but I don't want to get someone else in trouble. I think you'd fall out of your chair laughing. | Jun 26 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Legally, I'm not even supposed to know. | Jun 26 20:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Trump claims he wants the same thing for us. | Jun 26 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | That's what nationalism and economic fascism gets you. | Jun 26 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone who sits down and looks at NAFTA should come to the conclusion that there are more upsides for the US than downsides, and if we go back to the table, there's no guarantee we'll get a better deal, and if we rip it up we'll spiral into an economic depression complete with inflation, millions of lost jobs, and empty shelves. | Jun 26 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | The North American trade bloc is so integrated after 25 years of NAFTA and even more with the former US-Canada deal, that there's no easy way to back out of it. | Jun 26 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't think that NAFTA has cost us jobs on balance. | Jun 26 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has changed the kind of jobs we have. | Jun 26 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | The US lost some manufacturing, but our financial institutions and agriculture took over in Mexico. | Jun 26 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | We basically strongarmed them the last time and Trump thinks we were the victims? | Jun 26 20:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879414403384397828 | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #Motti, #HOOK, #Maia, #Lyndow and More | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7UfEDdJkpz (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu | Jun 26 20:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 26 20:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/apisanadora/status/879420897651826689 | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 18 open source translation tools to localize your project | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @apisanadora https://t.co/LIcbVJfJkD (opensource.com) #freesw | Jun 26 20:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-18 open source translation tools | Opensource.com | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y...' | Jun 26 20:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes, yes. https://t.co/bKB6jFV98y | Jun 26 20:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Weak? Yes. Wobbly? Yes, yes,...' | Jun 26 20:45 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: does the NAFTA have anti-human rights effects as the more recent "trade agreement"s do? | Jun 26 20:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879425471133474816 | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fabric | Jun 26 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 20:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social fabric | Tux Machines | Jun 26 20:48 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it improved the overall standard of living in all countries, I think. | Jun 26 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | The "rising tide lifts all the boats" theory. | Jun 26 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | But some got a better deal from it than others. | Jun 26 20:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social...' | Jun 26 20:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, A good example is Walmart. | Jun 26 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | There are things in Walmart now that are cheaper than they were in 1991, even without adjusting for inflation. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Games: #Witcher2 & #RocketLeague, Ashes of the Singularity...' | Jun 26 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC | Like a box fan. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Some worker in Mexico got a job making box fans and he earns three times what he made before. | Jun 26 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jun 26 20:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/879427120061194240 | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How Linux and makerspaces can strengthen our social | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost fabric | Jun 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zxpZFd4Efc (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:03 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg178100.html | Jun 26 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas — Linux Stable Kernel Updates [ http://ur1.ca/r2qjf ] | Jun 26 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Linux 4.11.7 has this. | Jun 26 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/general-linux-open-source/959507-linux-4-12-rc7-released-final-might-come-in-one-week?p=959648#post959648 | Jun 26 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 4.12-rc7 Released: Final Might Come In One Week - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2qoq ] | Jun 26 21:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Me: I've been getting: | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-8000C-28.ucode failed with error -2 | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Ever since I started using the Linux 4.11.5 kernel (iirc). Thank Intel for making references to firmware that they haven't released yet in a stable kernel series. | Jun 26 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, my wifi works, so oh well. Just more random error chatter from the kernel. I get plenty of that anyway on my Lenovo Yoga 900. It doesn't (appear to) harm anything. (But who knows?) | Jun 26 21:22 |
| schestowitz | "Sing-In" http://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chrome-os-team-is-experimenting-with-refreshed-sign-in-lock-screens-516647.shtml | Jun 26 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Google's Chrome OS Team Is Experimenting with Refreshed Sign-In/Lock Screens [ http://ur1.ca/r2qs4 ] | Jun 26 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TRS0211/status/879437447507193857 | Jun 26 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TRS0211: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn That chin (or lack of) is a threat in itself | Jun 26 21:37 | |
| schestowitz | Let's focus on the issue, not appearances. | Jun 26 21:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BeyondSimian/status/879438670675271681 | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BeyondSimian: @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Crime has gone down | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/hardware-firmware-drivers | Jun 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | (brexit lunacy) | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free drivers, firmware, and hardware designs — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/r2qxz ] | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438472804782081 | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 21:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| schestowitz | maybe fewer cops are left to record it, or fewer people bother reporting it | Jun 26 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:39 | |
| DaemonFC | Apple put Imagination Technologies out of business, essentially, when it stopped buying their chipsets. | Jun 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 26 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I hear that | Jun 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | good riddance | Jun 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe we won't have to deal with Poulsbo-like shit from them again. | Jun 26 21:40 |
| schestowitz | phoronix wrote about it last week | Jun 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | poulsbo was intel's choice to use a shitty gpu instead of their own, though | Jun 26 21:40 |
| MinceR | they could go to another shitty company instead | Jun 26 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | "We support Linux. Just look at our 32-bit only blob that works on Ubuntu 8.04!" | Jun 26 21:41 |
| MinceR | "just use the vesa driver" | Jun 26 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're up for sale. About the only asset they might have now are patents. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Probably Intel will buy them. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| MinceR | finally, intel can abuse customers with shitty gpus they own :> | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's cheap and it means that whoever gets them can't be sued by a patent troll later. | Jun 26 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll just do another incestuous cross licensing agreement with AMD. | Jun 26 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | They'd prefer to have no competition, but if they have to have one, they'd prefer it to be AMD. | Jun 26 21:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879438850048839680 | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 21:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:44 | |
| MinceR | and the governments let them get away with it | Jun 26 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Intel lets AMD live because their products generally aren't as good and they're not a major player anyway. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | AMD got bumped into the S&P 500 recently but it's one of the smaller components. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like #497 by weight. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | They have to heavily discount to compete with Intel on the low end. | Jun 26 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440122047057920 | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 21:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:46 | |
| DaemonFC | AMD has released some major disasters, like Bulldozer. | Jun 26 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then once they're in the retail channels, they have to subsidize them to get them to sell, at a loss. | Jun 26 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879440736088973312 | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 21:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441469219766272 | Jun 26 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 21:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 21:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeonsi-win-catching&num=1 | Jun 26 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon's Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Has Nearly Caught Up With Windows' Driver - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/r2r45 ] | Jun 26 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, amdgpu is missing Vulkan support. | Jun 26 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | Even Intel is supporting Vulkan. | Jun 26 21:54 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 26 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 26 22:12 | |
| DaemonFC | I commented: Several Linux distributions package it, but it's not commonly supported. We already have several smallish desktop environments that have the same basic goal of being small, working well on old and bargain basement computers, using a small utility for each task and avoiding entanglements with systemd. I wonder what their objection with using LXQt was. If it was just the GPL/LGPL then making a whole new project seems pointless. | Jun 26 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ohhh, additional drivers for Intel's Bay FAIL platform. :) | Jun 26 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=911723 | Jun 26 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | kernel-4.12.0-0.rc7.git0.1.fc27 | Build Info | koji [ http://ur1.ca/r2rjz ] | Jun 26 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it fixes the random lockups. | Jun 26 22:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879441853807984640 | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451288404197376 | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/NO3otHPUoY (www.tuxmachines.org) #server | Jun 26 22:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #ia | Jun 26 22:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers: Docker Hub, Internet Archive, DevOps... | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879451322118008832 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/ZQFxUgxMgi (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux #cli | Jun 26 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452601716101120 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #HyperThreading, and #Voyager9 | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/fwAiYyANR5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 22:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian News: Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, HyperThreading, and Voyager 9 | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879452630879268866 | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Fedora: New and Old #Development News | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/RP0jjSRanX (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 26 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 26 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora: New and Old Development News | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @cafbear favourited '#Debian News: #Debian 9 'Stretch' Slideshow, #HyperThreading, and...' | Jun 26 22:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Was it not known for a long...' | Jun 26 22:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Was it not known for...' | Jun 26 22:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454939738714112 | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #gnu #linux Desktops: #KDE, #Budgie, and #GNOME | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KoJahCFIRM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 22:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktops: KDE, Budgie, and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 26 22:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959410-debian-warns-of-hyper-threading-issue-with-intel-sky-kaby-lake-cpus/page7 | Jun 26 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Warns Of Hyper Threading Issue With Intel Sky/Kaby Lake CPUs - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2s0e ] | Jun 26 22:48 | |
| DaemonFC | I told John Bridgman that AMD is a giant trash fire. | Jun 26 22:48 |
| MinceR | so are intel and nvidia | Jun 26 22:53 |
| MinceR | :( | Jun 26 22:53 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/solo | Jun 26 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Solo | Jun 26 22:55 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/u37HGeX.jpg | Jun 26 23:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879454964460003329 | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Nuvola Player, #GStreamer, #MKVToolNix, | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Parlatype, and #PulseEffects | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/glKVHLCj6P (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 26 23:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Nuvola Player, GStreamer, MKVToolNix, Parlatype, and PulseEffects | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879461354150789120 | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 23:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 23:08 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough favourited 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:08 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @chadmccullough retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879462736345915392 | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 26 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 26 23:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the Linux Community, Librem Laptops, Chrome OS, and the Laptop Survey | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to...' | Jun 26 23:16 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, #Librem...' | Jun 26 23:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879465064197222400 | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 26 23:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/lRZPgl7iIP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 26 23:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Qualys, NIST, Internet of Things, Microsoft's Broken Updates and Honeypots | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from DNC ashes' | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Hopefully @GreenPartyUS will rise from...' | Jun 26 23:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of Things,...' | Jun 26 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879468528000270337 | Jun 26 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Jun 26 23:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jun 26 23:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina 1.3.0 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879468665237905413 | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/YwLKbEgULz (www.tuxmachines.org) #microsoft | Jun 26 23:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #vmware | Jun 26 23:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies That Exploit FOSS in an Effort to Look "Open" (While Remaining Wholly Proprietary) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Lumina 1.3.0 Released https://t.co/InJoYyxiqs #bsd #unix...' | Jun 26 23:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange The revolution will be not televised by...' | Jun 26 23:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange The revolution will be not...' | Jun 26 23:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879469494099472385 | Jun 26 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 no, due to spam registrations we had to disable | Jun 26 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it. Do you want me to set up an account for you? -RS | Jun 26 23:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879470326459006976 | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stable New Kernels and More | Jun 26 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/w4P7zbCLl6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #kernel | Jun 26 23:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, Linux 4.12 5 Days Away, Stable New Kernels and More | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 23:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel: AES-128-CBC Support, #Linux 4.12 5 Days Away,...' | Jun 26 23:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879471560016498689 | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Coreboot...) | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Zo0Yjtkg4u (www.tuxmachines.org) #hardware | Jun 26 23:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #radeon #radeonSI #ati | Jun 26 23:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Graphics and Processors (for Linux, LLVM, Coreboot...) | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 23:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#AMD #Graphics and Processors (for #Linux, #LLVM, #Coreboot...)...' | Jun 26 23:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879472778914693120 | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For The #Linux #Kernel | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/24y1r1Z0EW (www.tuxmachines.org) #china | Jun 26 23:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #security #gpl | Jun 26 23:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines | Jun 26 23:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Huawei Continues Working On Protectable Memory Support For...' | Jun 26 23:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL | Jun 27 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | /#Vulkan #Benchmarks,# Freedreno Development and #Mesa | Jun 27 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/JWvmAcfmYd (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 27 00:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, OpenGL/Vulkan Benchmarks, Freedreno Development and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics and Displays: 46-inch Touchscreen, #OpenGL /#Vulkan...' | Jun 27 00:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879475655372570625 | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 27 00:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 27 00:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and Add More Improvements | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879476167102877697 | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qKKiy6A8zs (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 27 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian | Jun 27 00:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SolydXK 9 Linux Distributions Enter Beta Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879477944502169600 | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i5qyJ2YM4i (www.tuxmachines.org) it's mostly | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux (de facto platform in servers now) | Jun 27 00:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Walmart takes its Amazon battle to the clouds | Tux Machines | Jun 27 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879479563608354816 | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux Kernels 4.4.74 LTS and 3.18.58 Fix Memory Leaks and | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Add More Improvements https://t.co/8JkZ6g2y0l | Jun 27 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #kernel | Jun 27 00:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479589453647872 | Jun 27 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: Security Updates, #Qualys, #NIST, Internet of | Jun 27 00:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Things, #Microsoft 's Broken Updates and #Honeypots | Jun 27 00:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/879479675784974336 | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop/Laptop: Open Letter to the #Linux Community, | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief #Librem Laptops, #ChromeOS, and the Laptop Survey | Jun 27 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ht8y5caKbW (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 27 00:22 |
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| mlsmith | Decided to try out the new ProtonVPN service. So far so good. Anybody else use a VPN daily here? | Jun 27 02:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | 14 mins · | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | Dr. Evil: Mr. President, after I destroy Washington D.C. I will destroy another major city every hour on the hour. That is, unless, of course, you pay me....one hundred... billion dollars. | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: [bursts with laughter] Dr. Evil, this is 1969! That amount of money doesn't even exist. | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | [laughing] | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: That's like saying, [with changed voice] | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | The President: "I want a kajillion bajillion dollars." | Jun 27 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/06/27/0037241/zillow-threatens-to-sue-blogger-for-using-its-photos-for-parody | Jun 27 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Zillow Threatens To Sue Blogger For Using Its Photos For Parody - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/r2w6j ] | Jun 27 03:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | There's the post that Zillow got removed. | Jun 27 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6j0cpb/lenovo_releases_new_bios_for_ideapad_710s_plus/ | Jun 27 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo Releases New Bios for IdeaPad 710s Plus and Plus Touch : linux [ http://ur1.ca/r2wtf ] | Jun 27 03:56 | |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo has released new BIOS firmware for the 710S Plus and 710S Plus Touch that allows Linux installs. | Jun 27 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | They don't mention Linux, but they added an option to disable "RAID" which makes the SSD available to all operating systems. A forums user said he was able to install Debian. | Jun 27 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959637-lumina-1-3-desktop-environment-released | Jun 27 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lumina 1.3 Desktop Environment Released - Phoronix Forums [ http://ur1.ca/r2rgx ] | Jun 27 04:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks sort of amateurish at the moment. They posted an article on OMG Ubuntu! and I nearly choked when someone said "Designed by Stevie Wonder.". I took another look at it. Late 90s Gnome (before there was a HIG) came to mind. | Jun 27 04:02 |
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| DaemonFC | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1465250 | Jun 27 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1465250 – SELinux is preventing gsd-xsettings from 'setattr' accesses on the directory /usr/lib/fontconfig/cache. [ http://ur1.ca/r2xdz ] | Jun 27 04:45 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that Lenovo one is also part one of the intel raid options not being supported by Linux | Jun 27 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, And it never will be as long as Linux upstream keeps rejecting the driver. | Jun 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Intel did give them one. They decided not to upstream it. | Jun 27 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like the device makers are giving up and letting people turn off the RAID mode. | Jun 27 05:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Nice. Someone forked the old Faenza icons and continued it as Obsidian. | Jun 27 05:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @itsfoss2 https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/879564567432613889 | Jun 27 05:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Yes, please. I'll DM you the email ☺️ | Jun 27 05:58 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, do you know of any lists of firmware attacks? e.g. routers, video cards, motherboards etc | Jun 27 05:59 |
| cubexyz | I guess even hard drive firmware could possibly be attacked | Jun 27 06:00 |
| cubexyz | all sorts of rumours about killing a CRT with the wrong refresh rate | Jun 27 06:06 |
| cubexyz | no idea if that's possible or not | Jun 27 06:06 |
| cubexyz | actually I'd be more worried about heat damage than a GPU "virus" | Jun 27 06:09 |
| cubexyz | there was the cookie monster on IBM mainframes... | Jun 27 06:10 |
| cubexyz | locked up the machine until the operator typed "cookie" | Jun 27 06:10 |
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| oiaohm | I would correct that it ignores some cases where it makes sense to spawn processes. There are quite a few cases where it does do it correctly. The service management engine of systemd could be broken down more than what it is. | Jun 27 11:20 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: do remember SMF first generation made the same mistake of having service management engine and init in one binary. | Jun 27 11:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: systemd makes it worse having user session management shoved into the same binary as well. | Jun 27 11:22 |
| MinceR | and parsing unit files | Jun 27 11:22 |
| MinceR | and doing the job of cron, atd, [x]inetd badly | Jun 27 11:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: parsing solaris xml init files were in SMF core as well with first version. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | yay, sun is clueless too! | Jun 27 11:23 |
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| oiaohm | Later versions of SMF broke out cron, atd and inetd replacements as well. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| oiaohm | so systemd is way too much like first version SMF. | Jun 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | it's also way too much like windows | Jun 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | and also way too much like macos | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Windows cron equal was never merged into the init system. | Jun 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | (it's poettering's way or the highway) | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | This is the problem each of those merge parts says solaris. | Jun 27 11:24 |
| oiaohm | The list don't match to the way windows is or has been assembled. | Jun 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | yes, in your obsessions | Jun 27 11:25 |
| oiaohm | first generation SMF is exact match. | Jun 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | talking to you is singularly unproductive | Jun 27 11:25 |
| oiaohm | So systemd is an attempt to bring SMF to linux based off first version. | Jun 27 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Too much stuff matches. | Jun 27 11:26 |
| oiaohm | binary logging included features match solaris hardened binary logging. | Jun 27 11:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically look at systemd compare to windows and solaris every time solaris comes out being the closest match. | Jun 27 11:27 |
| MinceR | except for the cases you ignore | Jun 27 11:28 |
| MinceR | because they don't fit into your model | Jun 27 11:28 |
| oiaohm | What case have I ignored. | Jun 27 11:28 |
| MinceR | but ok, you convinced me that slowlaris is also atrocious | Jun 27 11:28 |
| oiaohm | Note solaris changed a set of things after the first version of SMF like splitting init and service management. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | and also splitting out user session management. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | These splits have not happened in systemd. | Jun 27 11:29 |
| oiaohm | I see systemd as a really bad copy. | Jun 27 11:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa814329(v=vs.85).aspx read the description of windows binary logging. This is nothing like journal files https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/journal-files/ | Jun 27 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-msdn.microsoft.com | Centralized Binary Logging (Windows) [ http://ur1.ca/r31ou ] | Jun 27 11:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | journal-files [ http://ur1.ca/r31ov ] | Jun 27 11:35 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: only thing in common is the word binary. | Jun 27 11:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: if I can find the solaris hardened logging format the append to end method that journal is using is the same as what is uses. | Jun 27 11:37 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: and if it is not the same then you can't find it. | Jun 27 12:02 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really you have never presented any data about any of your claims that there is a structure match. | Jun 27 12:04 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: when something is copied from something there is normally some design structure copied. | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: really, i was talking about ideas, not code headers | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | and attitudes | Jun 27 12:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, if i wanted to run slowlaris, then i'd just run slowlaris | Jun 27 12:05 |
| oiaohm | But the ideas when they are copied show up in design structure. | Jun 27 12:05 |
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| oiaohm | Windows might have releated ideas but that is not where the systemd developers have been coping their ideas form there is just too much miss match. | Jun 27 12:06 |
| MinceR | and so binariness shows up in the "design" | Jun 27 12:06 |
| MinceR | it's not like they could be copying from multiple atrocious products | Jun 27 12:06 |
| oiaohm | SMF first version 1 binary did everything. | Jun 27 12:06 |
| oiaohm | That was never present in windows. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| MinceR | did they have kdbus? | Jun 27 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Solaris kernel IPC. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| oiaohm | That is more designed to user usage than most of the Linux kernel ones. | Jun 27 12:07 |
| MinceR | was slowlaris' rationale for it "we don't know where the overhead is, but we can't be arsed to profile anything, so we'll just assume it's mode switching and throw it in the kernel"? | Jun 27 12:08 |
| oiaohm | solaris has dtrace and dtrace was used after solaris added the Ipc for user applications. | Jun 27 12:09 |
| MinceR | so? | Jun 27 12:09 |
| oiaohm | So same rational screw up. | Jun 27 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Some of the reason for slowaris | Jun 27 12:10 |
| MinceR | i can't follow that | Jun 27 12:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: a stack of features were added the the solaris kernel that they profiled after the case then had to remove a stack of them. | Jun 27 12:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 12:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so fairly much everything talking about kinda happened at solaris first and the systemd guys did not learn from their failures. | Jun 27 12:11 |
| oiaohm | But then copy solaris failures. | Jun 27 12:12 |
| MinceR | that doesn't sound like deliberately copying the design, just being stupid in the exact same way | Jun 27 12:12 |
| oiaohm | when you get to 150+ matches you start thinking this has to be more than dumb luck. | Jun 27 12:13 |
| MinceR | i don't see the point of copying old failures | Jun 27 12:14 |
| MinceR | but maybe i'm just not irrational enough to follow those people | Jun 27 12:14 |
| oiaohm | I can see how it could happen. If you had solaris from a particular point in time and no newer and were using that a reference to duplicate. You would be missing all the fixes. | Jun 27 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Like the argument to avoid context switches was in the ipc for SMF that was merged in solaris. The argument for kdbus and the solaris user ipc was almost the same wording. | Jun 27 12:17 |
| MinceR | i guess | Jun 27 12:18 |
| MinceR | if you never stopped to think whether the things you were copying were actually workable | Jun 27 12:18 |
| oiaohm | It was not like SMF version 1 did not fix a few issues. So if you were focused in on fixing those issues you could have ignored some of the other issues. | Jun 27 12:19 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: tunnel vision effect in code development can be major cause of trouble. | Jun 27 12:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not test casing cgroup properly off the start line with systemd does suggest at the start they were not thinking about if the solution would 100 percent work as well. | Jun 27 12:24 |
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| MinceR | they still don't care, apparently | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | years after it was proclaimed to be "stable" | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | i don't expect this project to ever be fixed | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | they don't have the right attitude for that | Jun 27 12:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they did develop test cases of cgroup v1 in the end that proved it was broken and put test cases on cgroup v2. | Jun 27 12:25 |
| MinceR | and then they gave up? | Jun 27 12:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but that should not been 6 years into development. | Jun 27 12:25 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris test cases and fixed zones 6 months into SMF development. If 6 months in SMF is 6 years in systemd developlment we should see it break up into bits 2026 | Jun 27 12:30 |
| MinceR | and actually stable in 2046? | Jun 27 12:31 |
| oiaohm | some point around then yes. | Jun 27 12:31 |
| MinceR | and fit for integration into non-redhat distros in 2050? | Jun 27 12:31 |
| oiaohm | I am not exacty game to say systemd cannot be fixed. Because looking at how SMF was changed over time suggest it is fixable. | Jun 27 12:32 |
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| MinceR | i think they'll either forget about it entirely and do something different well before it could be fixed | Jun 27 12:34 |
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| MinceR | or they'll forget all the tickets and everything that could (and should) have been learned and start over | Jun 27 12:34 |
| MinceR | (CADT model) | Jun 27 12:34 |
| oiaohm | There is room for something better to be developed. | Jun 27 12:34 |
| MinceR | not a high standard | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | systemd is one of the worst designs i've encountered | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | it could be used to demonstrate what not to do in software engineering 101 | Jun 27 12:35 |
| MinceR | (a course poettering did not learn) | Jun 27 12:35 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit has quite a few demo of how not to write specification for a design. | Jun 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | can't have that much, as it's relatively trivial | Jun 27 12:36 |
| MinceR | a bit overdone, but nowhere near systemd | Jun 27 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Really we need a properly designed init and service management system. Done to mathematically certified standard. | Jun 27 12:37 |
| oiaohm | At some point we had to move on from sysvinit ways of doing things. | Jun 27 12:41 |
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| MinceR | you had to. i don't see why you had to force others to go with you. | Jun 27 13:01 |
| oiaohm | The list of defects in sysvinit that were not addressed had to be addressed at some point | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | and that what has happened. something appears that deals with some of the sysvinit issues and groups changed. | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | Of course what has appeared is lacking in some areas still. | Jun 27 13:03 |
| oiaohm | the problem here is ignoring the defects in sysvinit and not starting to design functional replacements have brought us to this point. | Jun 27 13:05 |
| MinceR | when addressing defects, the idea is usually not to make them even worse | Jun 27 13:18 |
| MinceR | but to fix them. | Jun 27 13:18 |
| MinceR | no, that did not bring us to this point | Jun 27 13:19 |
| MinceR | ratcrap's greed and lust for power and poettering's extreme incompetence and the community being flooded with clueless lusers is what brought us to this point | Jun 27 13:19 |
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| Hellenico | When the greek representative left the greek patent office, the BB kept him as president of the finance and budget committee for another two years | Jun 27 16:36 |
| Hellenico | illegally of course | Jun 27 16:36 |
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| Hellenico | And why??? | Jun 27 16:37 |
| Hellenico | The answer is obvious | Jun 27 16:37 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Jun 27 16:37 |
| Hellenico | Serafeim Stasinos at that time was rather stronger than the danish counterpart | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | Hi there | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | I heard something like this... | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | About Greek finance people at EPO | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | This greek guy is a master in bullying | Jun 27 16:38 |
| Hellenico | You should ask the greek emplyees about | Jun 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | is he the one work worked for a greek lady? | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Long before than BB!!! | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | can you start it from the beginning (background)? | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Sure!!! | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | we can then request email leaks | Jun 27 16:39 |
| Hellenico | Ask me whatever you want | Jun 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | do we know who applied for JK's position? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Ernst? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | DE usually abstains on BB proposals | Jun 27 16:40 |
| Hellenico | Not sure yet | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe Campinos? | Jun 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw him mentioned several times in the news last week | Jun 27 16:40 |
| Hellenico | Bingo!!!! | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | so anyway, what's the Greek thing? | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:37] <Hellenico> The answer is obvious | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | not obvious to me | Jun 27 16:41 |
| Hellenico | The other best friend | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | anyone but grossenbacher | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | former friend | Jun 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | but too powerful, not supine enough anymore, does not quality (was there before) | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | *qualify | Jun 27 16:42 |
| Hellenico | Lots of money in Bb's pocket while the greek representative was president of the finance and budget committee | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I'd like to know who applied | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | someone inside the Council/Board surely knows | Jun 27 16:42 |
| Hellenico | Campinos is one name that I heard too | Jun 27 16:42 |
| schestowitz | so was it BB's way of buying Greeks' votes? | Jun 27 16:43 |
| Hellenico | But also there is a rumour about the italian representative | Jun 27 16:43 |
| Hellenico | A lady | Jun 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | what is this rumour? | Jun 27 16:44 |
| Hellenico | This information comes from epi | Jun 27 16:44 |
| Hellenico | To appoint someone whose name is not involved in anything so fat | Jun 27 16:45 |
| Hellenico | And at the same time can be manipulated | Jun 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | what is the name? | Jun 27 16:47 |
| Hellenico | Loredan Gullino | Jun 27 16:48 |
| Hellenico | Loredana sorry | Jun 27 16:48 |
| schestowitz | epi made a statement or just hearsay | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jun 27 16:49 |
| Hellenico | Hearsay i am afraid | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | there seems to be infighting there over BB | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | as they removed their own letter | Jun 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand their politics, but I guess it's like Team UPC vs firms that don't care for the UPC | Jun 27 16:50 |
| Hellenico | The issue is that whoever will be, nothing changes | Jun 27 16:50 |
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| Hellenico | The representatives make their own deals, as bb is quite generous to them... | Jun 27 16:50 |
| Hellenico | I lll give you the greek example again | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | Two years ago the greek representative changes again | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | An comes from the left party | Jun 27 16:51 |
| Hellenico | at the begining he opposed to bb, and some months later become bb´ s puppet | Jun 27 16:52 |
| Hellenico | Soory for the wrong words, it is the autocorrect | Jun 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | It's still too vague to be something one can write about | Jun 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | maybe some documents would demonstrate the position changes | Jun 27 16:54 |
| Hellenico | Ioannis Kaplanis is the "left" representative at the AC .... | Jun 27 16:54 |
| Hellenico | I' ll try to find sth | Jun 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | hang on, flood/ddos attack | Jun 27 16:56 |
| Hellenico | I ll be back again in a couple of days if i have a document | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | vergibot again | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | please, yes, need documents if possible | Jun 27 16:56 |
| schestowitz | or old emails | Jun 27 16:56 |
| Hellenico | Ok | Jun 27 16:56 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @NSAGov Should have moved to #gnu #linux...' | Jun 27 19:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879781085906964480 | Jun 27 20:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu #Kylin, a Linux Distribution with a Microsoft | Jun 27 20:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden Maybe it's a wakeup call for them:...' | Jun 27 20:30 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange More &more people ought to confront media/journalists...' | Jun 27 20:30 | |
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| EricCromwell | Just wanted to drop a line to Dr Schestowitz | Jun 27 20:44 |
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| EricCromwell | On the Microsoft and NSA wiki page there is a grammatical error I was going to suggest an edit for but oddly, I am blocked, though I have never visited this page before ever. | Jun 27 20:45 |
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| EricCromwell | The error i saw was "not the just Internet/communications level; " instead of "not just the" | Jun 27 20:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/879788794093817856 | Jun 27 20:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879789917525733376 | Jun 27 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: Another Massive, Worldwide Ransom Attack on | Jun 27 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Microsoft #Windows, Security News About #GNU #Linux | Jun 27 20:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/879790433001492481 | Jun 27 21:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/beniaSlbZ1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #petya | Jun 27 21:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/879792697514569728 | Jun 27 21:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted: | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | There was a project to use the JavaScript engine of Webkit instead of GJS but it stalled out. Mozilla's Spidermonkey engine doesn't perform badly, but with the way Mozilla has gone, more projects that used to be usable by themselves are being folded into Firefox and having anything that doesn't make sense in the context of Firefox removed, so Gnome may regret going the way that they did with GJS. Not only is the JavaScript engine for Webkit | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | developed outside of the context of a web browser, it's already provided by Webkit's GTK port, which is already a part of Gnome to power anything that needs web rendering capabilities, including the help system, the Gnome Web (Epiphany) browser, and HTML emails in Evolution. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that it would be once bitten twice shy after the debacle of depending on XulRunner to provide a web engine for Gnome 2.x, especially during the transition from it to Webkit, where Epiphany (Gnome Web) had to have an abstraction layer instead of a rendering engine because it could be compiled with either XulRunner or Webkit for a couple of release cycles. The abstraction layer was awful. It really crippled the browser, and it was | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | the cause of a lot of crashes too. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Although Gnome now claims that there will be no extension breakage in the future, if they have to change the JavaScript engine that powers the shell, _everything_ could potentially break. I presume that if it comes to that, they'd rather hobble around with a fork of Mozilla's JavaScript engine until they could break compatibility with everything again and call it Gnome 4. It's foolish to expect consistency from Mozilla at this point. | Jun 27 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I should also mention that GJS hasn't been smooth sailing lately. It's crashed more times than I care to think about in Fedora 26. They keep adding patches and bumping the version, but it doesn't seem to be getting much more stable, for me at least. | Jun 27 21:11 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Maybe the next ads will revolve around...' | Jun 27 21:14 | |
| XRevan86 | GJS… Isn't that GObject Introspection for JavaScript? | Jun 27 21:16 |
| MinceR | could be a javascript -> native toolchain in gcc :> | Jun 27 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Different versions of mozjs are not fully compatible with each other | Jun 27 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | yet GJS has no troubles migrating from one to another :) | Jun 27 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Gnome's interface is largely written in JavaScript. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | A car passed by outside the window with loud music, which is C. C. Catch. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | means you can extend it to do just about anything. | Jun 27 21:20 |
| MinceR | btw, are you aware of deep sandboxing support in language implementations other than javascript and java? | Jun 27 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | So even though the default layout is retarded, it can be fixed up with extensions. | Jun 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | (deep as in it doesn't completely hinge on what symbols the sandboxed code is allowed to see) | Jun 27 21:21 |
| MinceR | i guess there's also QuakeC, but i'd rather not adopt that | Jun 27 21:21 |
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| XRevan86 | > It's what provides JavaScript to the Gnome Shell | Jun 27 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | It's really literally GObject Introspection bindings for JS | Jun 27 21:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 27 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/959738-mate-developers-are-considering-mir-over-wayland?p=959838#post959838 | Jun 27 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MATE Developers Are Considering Mir-Over-Wayland - Phoronix Forums | Jun 27 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Broken by default and no obvious way to fix KDE does not equal "the best". | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Also, littering the system with features that don't work (like inline spell check) is not acceptable. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Also, how do you make SDDM scale? There is no setting to make it scale in the KDE control panel. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is rotting from the inside out. Their last truly great release was 3.5.11. They can't really seem to properly maintain what they currently have, much less take on anything new. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Not just #assange case: https://t.co/Q2bRSQRC3R https://t.co/u3uIKOyaLB...' | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | UK human rights record under pressure from UN torture panel | Law | The Guardian | Jun 27 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | They seem to have a pattern of waiting until everything is working and then trashing it and starting over from scratch. | Jun 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I know that the 5 series is a continuation of the 4 series ported to Qt5, but boy are things deteriorating... | Jun 27 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Pretending that the applications need to be separated from the desktop is where things seem to have really gone bad. | Jun 27 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: They do need to though. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like they stopped caring about integration because three or four people in the world might want to use their software on Windows, Mac, or Gnome. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not having a coherent release of the entire system is really hurting them. | Jun 27 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Ah, I thought you mean separation of kdelibs into more modules and better work outside of KDE | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | It creates a mess of combinations that become possible, where instead of "Oh, I'm running KDE 5.10", it's "Well, I'm on suse and they packaged this version of that application on top of this version of the Plasma desktop.". | Jun 27 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | because KDE 5 applications definitely work better outside of KDE than KDE 4 ones were | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's no way to pin problems down to a particular release of the entire project. | Jun 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | They use private libs and everything. It's a toxic hellstew, to borrow a phrase. | Jun 27 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | At least with Gnome you can tell someone "My distribution provides Gnome 3.24." and they immediately know what it is that you're running. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | How to reproduce it. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | What version of a library that program is using. | Jun 27 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | When there's a bug, being able to reproduce it reliably is key. | Jun 27 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | That explains why GNOME developers always bump their requirements to the max | Jun 27 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Jun 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's a self-contained project. | Jun 27 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | Their answer is literally "Well, I'm glad that Cheese works for you in KDE, but we really don't care if it does or not outside of Gnome.". | Jun 27 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: When gettext became self-reliant, GNOME didn't wait and killed intltool in an instant | Jun 27 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Trying to support a million possible combinations is a recipe for disaster. | Jun 27 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | Always wants the latest GTK+ which makes backports very hard (not that I care) | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | KDE's bugzilla is turning into something even worse than Ubuntu Launchpad. | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Like, you have a dozen "me toos" and then the bug just becomes a zombie. | Jun 27 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Three years later, you have the same bug and there's still no resolution. | Jun 27 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | I cherry picked some patches this morning. | Jun 27 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | One was a security vulnerability in systemd. | Jun 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR's favorite package. | Jun 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jun 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | a security vulnerability in a massive hairball that was hacked up in c without any care? | Jun 27 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | - Fix an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved (CVE-2017-9445) | Jun 27 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=912516 | Jun 27 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koji.fedoraproject.org | systemd-233-5.fc26 | Build Info | koji | Jun 27 21:50 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess ready, fire, aim? | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | They'll patch the fuck out of it as they go along. | Jun 27 21:50 |
| MinceR | and introduce new bugs in the process | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | "- Backport a bunch of small fixes (memleaks, wrong format strings, | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | man page clarifications, shell completion)" | Jun 27 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | As in, too many to bother listing. | Jun 27 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: systemd-resolved, nice | Jun 27 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My favorite was a guy who said that he left his CentOS 7 server going for 18 days and systemd was using 4 GB of RAM. | Jun 27 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | https://serverfault.com/questions/755818/systemd-using-4gb-ram-after-18-days-of-uptime | Jun 27 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | linux - systemd Using 4GB RAM After 18 Days of Uptime - Server Fault | Jun 27 21:52 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | That'ss like the mother of all memory leaks. | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | How the fuck does this end up in RHEL so fast? | Jun 27 21:52 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: if you want to see how cognitive dissonance makes people ignore stimuli, tell our resident systemd shill that | Jun 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Servers are supposed to be reliable enough to stay running for months or years | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | servers don't matter, though | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | only poettering's laptop matters | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | (which is, strangely enough, apparently a multiseat system) | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | There was even the old story about a RHEL system that was accidentally walled off by contractors and nobody noticed until it stopped responding three years later. | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Those days are gone. | Jun 27 21:53 |
| MinceR | (ok, maybe it's a desktop) | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks, Poettering. | Jun 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why is multiseat important on a laptop? | Jun 27 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: It's a reference to logind being important. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat must be pressuring him to add multiseat because their customers want it. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why ConsoleKit had to die. | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Personally... | Jun 27 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | It seemed to be doing okay. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | The Marion, Indiana public library used Userful Discoverstation to run 20 internet terminals off of one computer. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | At the time, it was based on Fedora 6. | Jun 27 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | They rebranded everything, but it was still obvious what it was. | Jun 27 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | > Now you're lucky if you get three weeks? | Jun 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: why is multiseat important at all in 2017? | Jun 27 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | (please don't hack my resolved) | Jun 27 21:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@hackerfantastic @Snowden Live CD: GNU/Linux saves users from...' | Jun 27 22:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Nations Convention against Torture - Wikipedia | Jun 27 22:00 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They released systemd way too soon in the development process, put it in RHEL mostly untested, and now they're patching it constantly. | Jun 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | At least I assume the CVE is about a remote attack | Jun 27 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yet, Red Hat's revenue keeps going up? | Jun 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-9445 ** RESERVED ** | Jun 27 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | 19% YoY? | Jun 27 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2017-9445 | Jun 27 22:01 | |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, Well, it has more privileges than the user. | Jun 27 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86, http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/618 | Jun 27 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: seclists.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/618 ) | Jun 27 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC | CVE-2017-9445: Out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved with crafted TCP payload | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Hi, | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I recently discovered an out-of-bounds write in systemd-resolved in | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu, which is possible to trigger with a specially crafted TCP payload. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Details from the Ubuntu bug follow: | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 | Jun 27 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://launchpad.net/bugs/1695546 ) | Jun 27 22:05 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: worse, they used political trickery to force it on other distros as well | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Certain sizes passed to dns_packet_new can cause it to allocate a buffer | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small. A page-aligned number - sizeof(DnsPacket) + | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | sizeof(iphdr) + sizeof(udphdr) will do this - so, on x86 this will be a | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | page-aligned number - 80. Eg, calling dns_packet_new with a size of 4016 | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | on x86 will result in an allocation of 4096 bytes, but 108 bytes of this | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | are for the DnsPacket struct. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | then again, debian people should have had a backbone | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | A malicious DNS server can exploit this by responding with a specially | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | crafted TCP payload to trick systemd-resolved in to allocating a buffer | Jun 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | and refused | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's too small, and subsequently write arbitrary data beyond the end | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | of it. | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I believe this was introduced by | Jun 27 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/a0166609f782da91710dea9183d1bf138538db37 | Jun 27 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: too much pasta | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | (v223) and affects all subsequent versions up to and including v233. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-resolved: packet - ensure there is space for IP+UDP headers · systemd/systemd@a016660 · GitHub | Jun 27 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | ---- | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | A patch to resolve this has been provided by Zbigniew | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Jędrzejewski-Szmek, along with an additional patch to implement a test. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Both of these are attached. | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Many thanks, | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, way too much pasta | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Chris | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | and not enough sauce | Jun 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | or meatballs | Jun 27 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yeah, really lacking | Jun 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, it opens up systemd-resolved to attack by a malicious DNS server. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if your DNS server is malicious, you're kind of screwed anyway. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | But it's one of those bugs that someone like the NSA might use. | Jun 27 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Go to ISPs and make them use it to cause systemd-resolved to install malware on your computer. | Jun 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | malicious DNS servers are commonplace | Jun 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | typically of the NXDOMAIN -> ad page kind | Jun 27 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Comcrap before they decided to cut it out? | Jun 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | can't give any specific examples | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint does it too. | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | On my phone. | Jun 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | They take you to a shitty search page full of advertisements. | Jun 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jun 27 22:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879809405512011776 | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Development Functional #Programming in #JavaScript and | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Learning to Code | Jun 27 22:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gwKqIHdo7W (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 27 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development Functional Programming in JavaScript and Learning to Code | Tux Machines | Jun 27 22:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/879810718677303296 | Jun 27 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing of Ideas, Designs | Jun 27 22:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UOnKSajqIN (www.tuxmachines.org) #sharing | Jun 27 22:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Software and #Games | Jun 27 22:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 27/6/2017: Manjaro Linux 17.0.2 is Out, Windows | Jun 27 22:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Development Functional #Programming in #JavaScript and | Jun 27 22:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Learning to Code | Jun 27 22:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Leftovers: OSS and Sharing of Ideas, Designs | Jun 27 22:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Security: #Microsoft #Windows Armageddon and Other News | Jun 28 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Microsoft Windows Armageddon and Other News | Tux Machines | Jun 28 10:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Xinix Offers Linux Lovers a Path to Zen | Jun 28 10:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xinix Offers Linux Lovers a Path to Zen | Tux Machines | Jun 28 10:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880001161826369536 | Jun 28 10:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A look at Kaku — Media streaming in GNU/Linux | Jun 28 10:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A look at Kaku — Media streaming in GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 28 10:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kaku #gnu #linux #multimedia | Jun 28 10:54 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A look at Kaku — Media streaming in...' | Jun 28 10:54 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KU5H4L retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A look at Kaku — Media streaming in...' | Jun 28 10:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Security: #Microsoft #Windows Armageddon and Other News | Jun 28 11:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @naynayfig https://t.co/oIg2txECkB (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 11:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #UbuntuBudgie 17.04 – new kid on the block | Jun 28 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9H1JK4vCFj (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 11:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux #budgie | Jun 28 11:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Budgie 17.04 – new kid on the block | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 7 great open source tools to power your marketing stack | Jun 28 11:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/z1C21zSpb7 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 28 11:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 great open source tools to power your marketing stack | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 6 Linux clipboard managers to boost your productivity | Jun 28 11:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 28 11:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Linux clipboard managers to boost your productivity | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#UbuntuBudgie 17.04 – new kid on the block...' | Jun 28 11:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '7 great open source tools to power your...' | Jun 28 11:17 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '6 Linux clipboard managers to boost your productivity...' | Jun 28 11:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880009276282068993 | Jun 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, | Jun 28 11:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Jun 28 11:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6, Ubuntu 16.10 EOL Coming July | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 11:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880009476660711424 | Jun 28 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma | Jun 28 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Discover's #Flatpak Backend | Jun 28 11:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/eTDP7gehUH (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma Discover's Flatpak Backend | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 11:29 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma Discover's...' | Jun 28 11:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6,...' | Jun 28 11:30 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880011109046071296 | Jun 28 11:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Intel Core #i9 7900X #Linux #Benchmarks | Jun 28 11:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Why The #UbuntuPhone Failed | Jun 28 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why The Ubuntu Phone Failed | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu #linux #canonical | Jun 28 11:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux | Jun 28 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Gaming and Office Use | Jun 28 11:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #ubuntu | Jun 28 11:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for Linux Gaming and Office Use | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AllDayIndieDev retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 28 11:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF | Jun 28 11:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my | Jun 28 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dear... | Jun 28 11:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #unity #ca... https://t.co/1RTA6KXNL6 (joindiaspora.com) | Jun 28 11:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... | Tux Machines | Jun 28 11:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Looking for an Ubuntu Unity close cousin? Elementary, my dear... ht... | Jun 28 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF #android #linux #google' | Jun 28 11:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/iamunnip/status/880111973177802752 | Jun 28 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.10.3 Desktop Environment Improves Plasma | Jun 28 18:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @iamunnip Discover's #Flatpak Backend | Jun 28 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880114093734187009 | Jun 28 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 | Jun 28 18:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vvu9LlYyKK (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 18:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #debian | Jun 28 18:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 image | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880114426862555136 | Jun 28 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future | Jun 28 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Plans | Jun 28 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/9fBWzXjDv0 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #xen #linux | Jun 28 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current and Future Plans | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:25 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Raspbian GNU/Linux: New release includes installable x86 image...' | Jun 28 18:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Xen Related Work in the Linux Kernel: Current...' | Jun 28 18:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #NVIDIA 381.10.10 #Vulkan #Linux Driver #Benchmarks | Jun 28 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/IPYGrbsPpy (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics | Jun 28 18:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #phoronix | Jun 28 18:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 381.10.10 Vulkan Linux Driver Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @ExponetUSA retweeted @tuxmachines: '#NVIDIA 381.10.10 #Vulkan #Linux Driver #Benchmarks https://t.co/IPYGrbsPpy #graphics...' | Jun 28 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880116123081089026 | Jun 28 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further #FOSS | Jun 28 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | community outreach https://t.co/whXnNypn5T | Jun 28 18:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw #google | Jun 28 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further FOSS community outreach | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:37 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#OSU Open Source Lab leader looks to further...' | Jun 28 18:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Wine Staging 2.11 | Jun 28 18:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #WineStaging #wine #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.11 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 18:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880120676484624384 | Jun 28 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 18:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and More | Jun 28 18:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gaming #gnu #linux | Jun 28 18:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Wine Staging 2.11 https://t.co/hRUjMdnVhp #WineStaging #wine #unix #gnu...' | Jun 28 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880121617908736003 | Jun 28 19:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Games: #UnrealTournament, #STASIS, #SuperRocketShootout | Jun 28 19:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/L7YWC2sIwD (www.tuxmachines.org) #games | Jun 28 19:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #kde #freesw #plasma | Jun 28 19:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 https://t.co/KumOMmadp5 #ubuntu...' | Jun 28 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880125367918501907 | Jun 28 19:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 19:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Ants | Jun 28 19:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880126590570700804 | Jun 28 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/Sn6vzK2BKT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 19:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880128936549724162 | Jun 28 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc | Jun 28 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 19:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tablo | Jun 28 19:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @wwwkumotech retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc #android #google #linux #oneplus #tablo' | Jun 28 19:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880129886425427968 | Jun 28 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion | Jun 28 19:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UYKTbKGAnU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 28 19:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion | Tux Machines | Jun 28 19:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @EpocaNow favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc #android #google #linux #oneplus #tablo' | Jun 28 19:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Q4OS 1.8.7, Orion https://t.co/UYKTbKGAnU #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 19:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880131090324877312 | Jun 28 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/YhavGGrCHc | Jun 28 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #linux #oneplus | Jun 28 19:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #tablo | Jun 28 19:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880138682434498562 | Jun 28 20:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics | Jun 28 20:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880138806552391681 | Jun 28 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More | Jun 28 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CsHYOThjpd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Graphics | Jun 28 20:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 28 20:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mir, NVIDIA, OpenGL, RadeonSI and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More ...' | Jun 28 20:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Linux 4.11.7 and more https://t.co/axKTE1aU4G #kernel #programming #gpl' | Jun 28 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn But there's NO MONEY! The money tree...' | Jun 28 20:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.7 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn But there's NO MONEY! The...' | Jun 28 20:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited 'Succinct as usual Mr Boyle. https://t.co/EDVJH0jT3V' | Jun 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tuxmachines: Android Leftovers https://t.co/Fmld5UOVUF #android #linux #google | Jun 28 20:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:13 | |
| *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Jun 28 20:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/880142223010136069 | Jun 28 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Graphics: #Mir,# NVIDIA, #OpenGL, #RadeonSI and More | Jun 28 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA https://t.co/CsHYOThjpd (www.tuxmachines.org) #Graphics | Jun 28 20:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 28 20:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jovinosumicity/status/880145928069550082 | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @jovinosumicity https://t.co/Sn6vzK2BKT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Made by LP. Yes, THAT LP. #systemd | Jun 28 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Dough_Nutz37 favourited '#Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 https://t.co/KumOMmadp5 #ubuntu...' | Jun 28 20:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu Artful Aardvark (17.10) Alpha 1 | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880150595230978052 | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian 9 "Stretch" | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 20:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 9 "Stretch" | Tux Machines | Jun 28 20:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #distrowatch #review | Jun 28 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 28 20:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 20:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian 9 "Stretch" https://t.co/uISGP5jsEp #distrowatch #review...' | Jun 28 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, I figured out how to get Qt5 apps to scale properly, at least. | Jun 28 20:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880153285272928256 | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE and Plasma: Release of #Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Slackware Live #PLASMA5, and KDE for #FreeBSD | Jun 28 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GmxqgsCIES (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 21:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE and Plasma: Release of Plasma 5.10.3, New ISO for Slackware Live PLASMA5, and KDE for FreeBSD | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880154231558332416 | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Jun 28 21:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/79y1BDLsDa (www.tuxmachines.org) #petya | Jun 28 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Windows Ransomware, Windows in Warships, Zero Trust Security Model, CVE-2017-9445 and More | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #systemd | Jun 28 21:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE and Plasma: Release of #Plasma 5.10.3, New...' | Jun 28 21:06 | |
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| cubexyz | re: demostrate NTserver as THE internet platform... dated 1995 | Jun 28 21:08 |
| cubexyz | well, the Freenets used BSD back then | Jun 28 21:09 |
| cubexyz | the TCP/IP stack was introduced to Unix in 4.2BSD | Jun 28 21:12 |
| cubexyz | that was 1982 | Jun 28 21:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 28 21:14 | |
| cubexyz | oh and one other point you may find interesting | Jun 28 21:14 |
| cubexyz | the BSD TCP/IP code was used in NT 3.1, macOS and iOS | Jun 28 21:15 |
| cubexyz | also BSD -> SunOS, NeXTSTEP, Ultrix, etc | Jun 28 21:16 |
| cubexyz | and if I was so inclined I could scan for BSD code in NT or win2k | Jun 28 21:18 |
| cubexyz | BeBOX with BeOS also used code from BSD | Jun 28 21:20 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him about your...' | Jun 28 21:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Did you tell him...' | Jun 28 21:24 | |
| cubexyz | NT 3.5 was using the rewritten TCP/IP stack | Jun 28 21:32 |
| MinceR | "rewritten" | Jun 28 21:36 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @narendramodi Trump loves Indians so much that...' | Jun 28 21:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164038495416322 | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 21:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 28 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880164269676953602 | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update https://t.co/vSt8L0B1Wc (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 28 21:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | Jun 28 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Adreno Project “Freedreno” Receives New Update | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:43 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New Update...' | Jun 28 21:43 | |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group also used BSD code or at least derived their code from it | Jun 28 21:43 |
| cubexyz | which was allowed of course | Jun 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group made a package for Unix v7 | Jun 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | also one for the IBM PC | Jun 28 21:44 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited '#System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU #gnu #linux preloaded....' | Jun 28 21:47 | |
| cubexyz | Wollongong is a reference to the University of Wollongong in Australia but... | Jun 28 21:47 |
| cubexyz | Wollongong Group was based in California | Jun 28 21:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165676698218496 | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #chromeos | Jun 28 21:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #android | Jun 28 21:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tablets, Chromebooks, and GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:48 | |
| cubexyz | anyways going back to my original point: in 1995 you didn't need to use NTserver | Jun 28 21:49 |
| cubexyz | that's just Microsoft FUD | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880165959738249216 | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 28 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yANUV12YzT (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 28 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix | Jun 28 21:49 |
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| cubexyz | in 1995 you could have used Redhat 1.0, or FreeBSD 2.0, or Ultrix 4.5 | Jun 28 21:50 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU #gnu #linux preloaded....' | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open Source #Adreno Project #Freedreno Receives New Update...' | Jun 28 21:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 #chromeos...' | Jun 28 21:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/yANUV12YzT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 21:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/yANUV12YzT #howto #gnu #linux...' | Jun 28 21:52 | |
| cubexyz | heck, in 1991 you could buy an HP 9000 running HP-UX | Jun 28 21:52 |
| cubexyz | expensive though | Jun 28 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | I put a fundraiser banner for the GNOME Foundation on my Facebook page. | Jun 28 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm comfortable with that now that Karen Sandler is gone. | Jun 28 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Blew all their money on "Outreach to Women"? How does that happen. I don't see any more women in Free Software after the outreach than before the outreach. | Jun 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Or software at all for that matter. | Jun 28 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile culture. It's like gaming. Well, gaming used to be more inclusive. Before the Video Game Crash of 1986, there were plenty of women in the gaming industry and female lead characters in the games and such. | Jun 28 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | After the crash, Nintendo decided to move their marketing from the electronics section to the toys department at stores. | Jun 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | But the toys department was segregated to a boy and a girl section. | Jun 28 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | So Nintendo chose the boy's section. Then they started advertising to boys. Then that spiraled into a bunch of overtly sexist video games and advertising in the 90s which never really stopped. | Jun 28 22:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/880166958573826052 | Jun 28 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops | Jun 28 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 (www.tuxmachines.org) #chromeos | Jun 28 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tablets, Chromebooks, and GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #android | Jun 28 22:08 |
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| cubexyz | well NES Classic edition was popular | Jun 28 22:12 |
| cubexyz | playing NES games on the HDTV | Jun 28 22:12 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Cubs @WhiteHouse Pseudo-populism photo-ops from a fake...' | Jun 28 22:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/cybershellsec/status/880172315706839040 | Jun 28 22:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #System76 Oryx Pro Review https://t.co/55PvOY6PnU | Jun 28 22:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @cybershellsec (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux preloaded. Worth | Jun 28 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Oryx Pro Review | Tux Machines | Jun 28 22:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | supporting such OEMs. Make them bigger. | Jun 28 22:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @cybershellsec retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tablets, #Chromebooks, and #GNU #Linux Laptops https://t.co/65r6I80yC6 #chromeos...' | Jun 28 22:13 | |
| cubexyz | proves that if a game is fun, its fun no matter what the graphics look like | Jun 28 22:14 |
| abeNd-org | have you tried the retro freak before? | Jun 28 22:15 |
| cubexyz | nintendo sold 2.3 million of the things | Jun 28 22:15 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.cybergadget.co.jp/retrofreak/en.html | Jun 28 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cybergadget.co.jp | Retro Freak｜Support 12 different types of retro game systems｜CYBER Gadget [ http://ur1.ca/r3m5p ] | Jun 28 22:15 | |
| cubexyz | I have not | Jun 28 22:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Cubs @WhiteHouse The guy behind him pretends...' | Jun 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you speak of the #muslimBan with...' | Jun 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Did you speak of the...' | Jun 28 22:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Did you speak of the #muslimBan with...' | Jun 28 22:17 | |
| cubexyz | looks interesting though... I still have a bunch of sega genesis carts | Jun 28 22:17 |
| abeNd-org | yea, my wife who is really into retro gaming got one of those | Jun 28 22:18 |
| abeNd-org | don't have to have a zillion consoles hooked up now | Jun 28 22:18 |
| cubexyz | well I still play a few Loki games | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | I sold off all my consoles and I used to have almost everything: | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | 3DO, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, SNES, Turbographx-16 | Jun 28 22:19 |
| cubexyz | even the neo-geo, which I kind of regret selling | Jun 28 22:20 |
| abeNd-org | yep, no need to have most of those consoles, just the games, & original (or remade usb/bluetooth) controllers | Jun 28 22:20 |
| cubexyz | I assume it has HDMI connectors? | Jun 28 22:21 |
| cubexyz | yeah I see it does | Jun 28 22:22 |
| abeNd-org | yep, the little bit I have tried of it so far it worked pretty nice | Jun 28 22:23 |
| abeNd-org | i wish it had a ethernet port & could read off nfs/smb, but the little 64SDcard ive got should handle pretty much anything that could be thrown at the system | Jun 28 22:24 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't mind being able to use my old sega genesis controllers on the computer actually | Jun 28 22:26 |
| cubexyz | mame and that sort of thing | Jun 28 22:26 |
| abeNd-org | yea, there are usb adapters for all those retro controllers these days, or remade native usb/bluetooth ones | Jun 28 22:27 |
| abeNd-org | that retrofreak can use ps4 controllers even from what the latest update stated | Jun 28 22:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Ubuntu Core, Yocto, Microsoft, and Tizen | Tux Machines | Jun 28 23:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880186110122622976 | Jun 28 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat News https://t.co/lSwkieev9l | Jun 28 23:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | OSS Leftovers | Jun 28 23:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Devices: #UbuntuCore, #Yocto, #Microsoft, and #Tizen | Jun 28 23:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RedHat News https://t.co/lSwkieev9l #gnu...' | Jun 28 23:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880190299930218497 | Jun 28 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by OSS Leftovers | Jun 28 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/JJOtkhaIt5 (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 28 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/880191478005252096 | Jun 28 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #UbuntuCore Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi | Jun 28 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @PABHERE Compute Module 3 (CM3) https://t.co/wmtnYLDXm3 | Jun 28 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Core Now Officially Supported for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 (CM3) | Tux Machines | Jun 28 23:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jun 28 23:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #raspi | Jun 28 23:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367210748948480 | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 11:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367402395021312 | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 11:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#Distro Reviews: #PuppyLinux #Slacko, #ArcaOS, #Wifislax, #PeppermintOS, and...' | Jun 29 11:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880367696097026049 | Jun 29 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 11:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cGgAXjBJJl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 11:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:12 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880368522236485632 | Jun 29 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 11:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 11:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:13 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6jtnb1/atms_in_ukraine_now_accepting_bitcoin/ | Jun 29 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | ATM's in Ukraine now accepting Bitcoin! : Bitcoin | Jun 29 11:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI...' | Jun 29 11:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited 'Windows #Ransomware, #Windows in Warships, Zero Trust #Security...' | Jun 29 11:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#mkosi — A Tool for Generating OS Images...' | Jun 29 11:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880374918722060288 | Jun 29 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 29 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 29 11:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @polr retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880375541362286592 | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Jun 29 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/U424lAqLVk (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux-driven Cortex-A7 SoC targets 3D and HD-enabled HMI...' | Jun 29 11:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880375802487091200 | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in #Boston | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cGgAXjBJJl (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 11:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 11:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Opens the Doors to New Global Executive Briefing Center and Red Hat Open Innovation Labs in Boston | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880376022193098752 | Jun 29 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/rYgjcTP5A5 | Jun 29 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google | Jun 29 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @KoenP66 favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:43 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @KoenP66 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880376292952211456 | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvcJvRrpKQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 11:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 11:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378054740258816 | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE 17.10 | Jun 29 11:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/keb5d629oT (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #lnux | Jun 29 11:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Leftovers: Ubuntu Core, MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and Ubuntu MATE 17.10 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378479153381377 | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Devices and #Android Leftovers: #µduino, “Fandom | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Edition”, #Amazon and #Netfront Browser | Jun 29 11:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/UC2Mrexqhi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 11:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Android Leftovers: µduino, “Fandom Edition”, Amazon and Netfront Browser | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:54 | |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/astarrb/status/880170781841514496 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1701068 “motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's ...” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@astarrb: .@Ubuntu Placing ads in the MOTD now? 😧 Really? https://t.co/beTTuXrZ5S https://t.co/1KVgWZfo6l | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880378982428028928 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL, | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenStack Webinar, #SDC 2017 | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rSVsrc9CJK (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 29 11:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 29 11:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: Open Source Summit Japan, SeaGL 2017, FLISoL, OpenStack Webinar, SDC 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880379475992743936 | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 11:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 11:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880380162495438849 | Jun 29 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jun 29 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/7pKB8WHVn8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 29 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381160777555969 | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 12:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKoAisIt9Y (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 12:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#UbuntuMATE Software Boutique Package Manager Is Getting Support...' | Jun 29 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880381708423639040 | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i86amUirXt (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 12:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @BobYelland retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, #Hyperledger...' | Jun 29 12:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880382061361717248 | Jun 29 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 29 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu Leftovers: #UbuntuCore, #MAAS, Ubuntu Foundations, and #UbuntuMATE...' | Jun 29 12:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu...' | Jun 29 12:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Snakku favourited 'Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL,...' | Jun 29 12:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Devices and #Android Leftovers: #µduino, “Fandom Edition”, #Amazon...' | Jun 29 12:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events: Open Source Summit #Japan, #SeaGL 2017, #FLISoL,...' | Jun 29 12:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880386386460856320 | Jun 29 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 12:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 12:29 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 12:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880387690335797250 | Jun 29 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora Leftovers | Jun 29 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/a7wgDFLLvD (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #f26 #f25 | Jun 29 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:33 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880388647249489921 | Jun 29 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jun 29 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/7pKB8WHVn8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto | Jun 29 12:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #gnu #linux | Jun 29 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389145578942465 | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 29 12:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKoAisIt9Y (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 12:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880389981277229056 | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: #Wormhole, #Summernote, #Cipher, #Beast, | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #Cylon, #Papirus Icon Theme, #Moe, #LibreOffice and | Jun 29 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games | Jun 29 12:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Wormhole, Summernote, Cipher, Beast, Cylon, Papirus Icon Theme, Moe, LibreOffice and Games | Tux Machines | Jun 29 12:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880390905072689155 | Jun 29 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's #tuxmachines leftovers | Jun 29 13:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/KbXQeMeqxM (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 13:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 29 13:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/reddish2/status/880396412659302400 | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @reddish2 #Kaspersky, and "Choosing #Windows should get you fired" | Jun 29 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zvcJvRrpKQ (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: GNU/Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, Kaspersky, and "Choosing Windows for your organization should get you fired" | Tux Machines | Jun 29 13:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#Security:# GNU #Linux Updates, Reproducible Builds, #Kaspersky, and...' | Jun 29 13:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump Is this what you call MAGA? Deals...' | Jun 29 13:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump Is this what you call...' | Jun 29 13:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Desktop: #PopcornLinux, #Purism, Distro Hopping, #System76, and 2017...' | Jun 29 13:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Fake President can only tolerate Fake...' | Jun 29 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been screaming at...' | Jun 29 13:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump @Morning_Joe Donald Trump 'has been...' | Jun 29 14:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/06/29/fc9780aedb200975.mp4 | Jun 29 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | what is this? | Jun 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | patent trap? | Jun 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | seems like it's some dubious URL/domain | Jun 29 15:27 |
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| MinceR | not sure about patent status | Jun 29 15:30 |
| MinceR | but pr0gramm.com is hardly dubious | Jun 29 15:30 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited '#Entroware Launches Two New Ubuntu Laptops, for #Linux...' | Jun 29 15:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880433554340986881 | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 15:32 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Grigortw retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:34 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, ok | Jun 29 15:35 |
| schestowitz | I saw this before | Jun 29 15:35 |
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| schestowitz | we watched it here last year | Jun 29 15:35 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:39 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 15:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880439786837880832 | Jun 29 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma | Jun 29 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz 5.10.3 https://t.co/PKVkngDi5G (techrights.org) | Jun 29 16:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/6/2017: Entroware, Wine-Staging 2.11, Plasma 5.10.3 | Techrights | Jun 29 16:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/880444184141942787 | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:14 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 16:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880450272690130946 | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based on Ubuntu and GNOME | Tux Machines | Jun 29 16:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880451142358118401 | Jun 29 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/ihbMyDKC6W | Jun 29 16:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 29 16:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/880452595785101313 | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 on #Ubuntu and #GNOME | Jun 29 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PjF7e9u6a4 (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 29 16:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 16:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880457900652679168 | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry | Jun 29 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | FUD, Overhyped #Systemd Bug | Jun 29 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: OutlawCountry, WatchGuard FUD, SambaCry FUD, Overhyped Systemd Bug | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #OutlawCountry, #WatchGuard FUD, #SambaCry FUD, Overhyped #Systemd...' | Jun 29 17:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459389252935680 | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 4.11.8 and more | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 29 17:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #gpl | Jun 29 17:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.11.8 | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880459606908162049 | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 17:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Tux Machines | Jun 29 17:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 29 17:17 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux 4.11.8 and more https://t.co/HQfNKuegEi #linux #kernel...' | Jun 29 17:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880460338705170434 | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Linux-friendly COM Express duo taps PowerPC based QorIQs | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/VJL7SMZj67 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #ppc | Jun 29 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #powerpc | Jun 29 18:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @lucasoft_co_uk favourited 'What is Docker? Linux containers explained https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 #docker...' | Jun 29 18:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Tux Machines | Jun 29 18:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @lucasoft_co_uk https://twitter.com/lucasoft_co_uk/status/880478632241745921 | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RT @tuxmachines: What is Docker? Linux containers | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | explained https://t.co/tpVzyW5U7P (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 29 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/vishne0/status/880489026792300545 | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by What is Docker? Linux containers explained | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @vishne0 https://t.co/6sdx6wWCx2 (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker | Jun 29 19:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #gnu #linux | Jun 29 19:21 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/clouds | Jun 29 19:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Clouds | Jun 29 19:28 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/tM3c9kI | Jun 29 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 29 19:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/W9AYcDZ | Jun 29 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet | Jun 29 19:43 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's effort :) | Jun 29 19:45 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jun 29 19:46 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/WT7Sr | Jun 29 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New favorite twitter account: Effingbirds - Album on Imgur | Jun 29 19:57 | |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/G9ZfpV9 | Jun 29 20:14 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/TfLjK | Jun 29 20:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @reddish2 favourited '#System76 Announces Pop!_OS, Their Own Linux Distro Based...' | Jun 29 20:51 | |
| MinceR | needs more punctuation in the name | Jun 29 20:55 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/pics/HmJ1b | Jun 29 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh, ok. I guess I'll just brush my teeth in the kitchen sink tonight. - Imgur | Jun 29 21:12 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-miserable-streak | Jun 29 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Miserable Streak | Jun 29 21:47 | |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/187 | Jun 29 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | It's Always Sunny in Paris - Existential Comics | Jun 29 21:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/880579238209957888 | Jun 30 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by New #systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and | Jun 30 01:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @speedytux Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now https://t.co/bqikBAbLDp | Jun 30 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New systemd Vulnerability Affects Ubuntu 17.04 and Ubuntu 16.10, Update Now | Tux Machines | Jun 30 01:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 01:22 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Did she ring him (too) with missiles...' | Jun 30 01:22 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks Did she ring him (too)...' | Jun 30 01:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons out there,...' | Jun 30 01:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks For all the Pizzagate loons...' | Jun 30 01:27 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 30 08:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 30 08:43 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 30 08:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Blockchain_Labs/status/880692801729691648 | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxFoundation Projects and Initiatives: | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Blockchain_Labs #OpenSecurityController (OSC), #CloudFoundry, | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Hyperledger and #Xen | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/rKoAisIt9Y (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Projects and Initiatives: Open Security Controller (OSC), Cloud Foundry, Hyperledger and Xen | Tux Machines | Jun 30 09:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880700170706595840 | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: #Microsoft #Windows as Attack Vector and More | Jun 30 09:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ycKgZV6ErS (www.tuxmachines.org) #ukraine | Jun 30 09:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Microsoft Windows as Attack Vector and More | Tux Machines | Jun 30 09:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: #Microsoft #Windows as Attack Vector and More...' | Jun 30 09:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/880701537676406785 | Jun 30 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/O4Na373Fov | Jun 30 09:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Jun 30 09:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880712910913359873 | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/KOBYzC6IcF | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux | Jun 30 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880713611831889920 | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | out https://t.co/KQ5Bx0uDNp (www.tuxmachines.org) #nhs | Jun 30 10:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #ubuntu #gnu... https://t.co/KjjSLc3cUk | Jun 30 10:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS Windows take out | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://w... | Jun 30 10:04 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KOBYzC6IcF #android #linux' | Jun 30 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9544799 | Jun 30 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/102521 #nhs #ubuntu #gnu #linux #uk #nhsubuntu #freedom #security | Jun 30 10:05 | |
| schestowitz | good news.... | Jun 30 10:06 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Leeds hack 'weaponising' Ubuntu for NHS #Windows take...' | Jun 30 10:08 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880714526987079680 | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FrfusNvZtw (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 10:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Blender3d #freesw #gnu #linux #art #nl | Jun 30 10:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/29/15892658/microsoft-windows-10-controlled-folders-feature | Jun 30 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Windows 10 will hide your important files from ransomware soon - The Verge | Jun 30 10:12 | |
| DaemonFC | "unfriendly applications" -Windows | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | If Carlin was still alive, he could add it to his soft language routine. | Jun 30 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's not malware that installs itself because you visited a web page. It's an "unfriendly application". | Jun 30 10:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880715211216498691 | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | *Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Flavors, Here's What's New | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/SdsIp1Uzjc (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 10:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 30 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 (Artful Aardvark) Out for Opt-in Flavors, Here's What's New | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Anyway, let's see how long that holds up before the malware figures out how to inject itself into a "trusted application". | Jun 30 10:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware Malware is a generic term. | Jun 30 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, Microsoft will bless their own software and lock out competitors. Want to use LibreOffice but limit access to the folder? Tough noogies! | Jun 30 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware ) | Jun 30 10:15 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: unfriendly application does not cover a script/active content.... Must be an binary executable. | Jun 30 10:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Blender – The Perfect 3D Creation Tool for...' | Jun 30 10:16 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: might be a more correct term but for most general users it just confuses them. | Jun 30 10:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jun 30 10:18 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/wiki/Sandbox really windows 10 controlled folder feature is partly what flatpak is working in the direction of. | Jun 30 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sandbox · flatpak/flatpak Wiki · GitHub | Jun 30 10:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880717159164411905 | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 30 10:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #kernel #OpenSecurityController @LinuxFoundation | Jun 30 10:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernels and Linux Foundation Efforts | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880717734719475713 | Jun 30 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOMEBuilder, #Keysign, and #GNOMEFoundation Statement | Jun 30 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Immigration Ban | Jun 30 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/C1rMIb17LU (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnome #gnu | Jun 30 10:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Builder, Keysign, and GNOME Foundation Statement on Immigration Ban | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:23 | |
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| schestowitz | all: | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> It'll be quiet soon. I'll catch up with uspto drafts then... | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Great. | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > In Europe, for obtuse types like myself, can one of the EPO articles | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > provide a concise summary of why the staff are on strike? | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > By the way, this showed up: | Jun 30 10:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'New #Kernels and #LinuxFoundation Efforts https://t.co/KbySMMhqdR #linux...' | Jun 30 10:24 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Last not least, its clear to some of us since years now | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > that these lads want to restrict ABI access and build a | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > full vertical stack that puts a machine completely | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > under systemd's control from its boot - a sort of | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > revamp of the "trusted computing" weird techno-fascist | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > dream | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > Before you think I'm crazy in writing what I wrote, | Jun 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | > please have a look at the US patent 20150040216-A1 | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > "Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Interfaces" filed by Paul Moore, Dan Walsh and Lennart | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Poettering on behalf of Red Hat inc. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170630.070231.3eff71f4.en.html | Jun 30 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance! | Jun 30 10:25 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.google.com/patents/US20150040216 | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > That patent supports the possibility I suggested years ago that systemd | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > aims to become a vehicle for DRM in Linux. Since Torvalds opposes DRM | Jun 30 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent US20150040216 - Systems and Methods for Restricting Application Binary Interfaces - Google Patents | Jun 30 10:25 | |
| schestowitz | > and he still controls the kernel despite some people's efforts, they | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > have to go around him and insert themselves between userspace and the | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > kernel. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Red Hat seems to be making good on the threats M$ put forth in the | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Halloween documents about decommoditizing the software. | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | I will share this in IRC and see if someone has additional input | Jun 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oiaohm : systemd ^? | Jun 30 10:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernels and Linux Foundation Efforts | Tux Machines | Jun 30 10:25 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp that patent is the seccomp-bpf patent. | Jun 30 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | seccomp - Wikipedia | Jun 30 10:29 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://lwn.net/Articles/475019/ I do question how valid that patent is for historic reasons. | Jun 30 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dynamic seccomp policies (using BPF filters) [LWN.net] | Jun 30 10:34 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: sandboxing syscalls was not exactly new. http://subterfugue.org/ userspace implementation of it from 2001 and before that had defects. | Jun 30 10:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-subterfugue.org | SUBTERFUGUE | Jun 30 10:38 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so really is another knee jerk redhat who has not read history of the features. What is covered by that patent was doable without kernel features. Kernel features make it work without the massive number of strange failures. | Jun 30 10:41 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/als15_manolov.pdf really if you want a feature that does not look like sandboxing and looked a lot like Digital rights management you would not be looking past IMA. | Jun 30 10:44 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: as with all things in software a lot of things have more than 1 use. | Jun 30 10:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880796137325826050 | Jun 30 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games: #Gaming Headset, 'The Infectious Madness of | Jun 30 15:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Doctor Dekker', Paradox, and Micro Machines World Series | Jun 30 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/880797406157254657 | Jun 30 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Linux laptop field | Jun 30 15:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880800123437101056 | Jun 30 15:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events: https://t.co/6uYSIk7bnl (openSUSE.Asia) Summit | Jun 30 15:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 2017, Diversity Empowerment Summit North America, | Jun 30 15:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Openwashing of #Arduino, #Microsoft, and #LinkedIn | Jun 30 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Still Proprietary to Core) | Jun 30 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gM9TVuncjk (www.tuxmachines.org) an element | Jun 30 16:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha and New Derivative | Jun 30 17:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Jun 30 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GNU #GPLv3 turns 10 | Jun 30 17:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 30/6/2017: Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1, Mozilla Employee | Jun 30 17:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Jun 30 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/2CfCkev1at (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 30 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #docker #container #gnu #linux #freesw #server | Jun 30 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker 17.06 CE Debuts with Multi-Stage Container Builds | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/8g0eSCiRWL (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu | Jun 30 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Ubuntu set to be the OS for Internet of Things? | Tux Machines | Jun 30 17:38 | |
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| schestowitz | I think I'm back for good to KDE | Jun 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | KF5 | Jun 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | It works OK now | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | no more bugs | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | first time bask since 2015 | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | after 15 years with it | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | I had tearing issues | Jun 30 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the pointer, helped me solve it. OpenGL 3.1 backend. No more tearing now. I think... or hope (so far, so good) | Jun 30 18:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemqVWi_R0k | Jun 30 18:16 |
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| MinceR | and i'm back for good to fvwm | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | it has sloppyfocus that actually works properly | Jun 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | and it gives me more control over windows than any other wm :> | Jun 30 18:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Canonical Promises Smooth and Easy Unity 7 to GNOME Shell | Jun 30 18:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Migration for Users | Jun 30 18:25 |
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| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 18:26 |
| MinceR | smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880839813259300864 | Jun 30 18:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/HiNF5EOY0k | Jun 30 18:26 |
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| MinceR | https://qz.com/1010684/all-the-wellness-products-american-love-to-buy-are-sold-on-both-infowars-and-goop/ | Jun 30 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 18:27 | |
| XRevan86 | Oh boy, linphone-desktop 4.0 has been released. | Jun 30 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://linphone.org/news/55/26 | Jun 30 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linphone.org | Linphone 4.0 for desktop platforms is available! | Jun 30 18:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840045715959809 | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Important CentOS 7 #Linux #Kernel #Security Update | Jun 30 18:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Patches Five Vulnerabilities | Jun 30 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | [18:26] <MinceR> smooth and easy migration from one load of crap to another | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | true (blush) | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | never likes gnomeshell | Jun 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | [18:27] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- qz.com | Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products — Quartz | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | yeah, best to ignore such sites | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "naturalnews" also | Jun 30 18:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | selling "gold", "survival kits", bogus meds etc | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | they create crazy people | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | and then sell them crazy s | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | apparently it's a good business model | Jun 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | teach them anti-vaxx, chemtrail, anti-flouride etc. | Jun 30 18:35 |
| schestowitz | and then you sell them overpriced placebo crap that kills them early | Jun 30 18:35 |
| abeNd-org | ya, just eat real veggies/fruit/nuts, skip all that junk | Jun 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz | this is not what they advise | Jun 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz | if they did, fine... | Jun 30 18:37 |
| abeNd-org | that is what i advise | Jun 30 18:37 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ science backed nutrition | Jun 30 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research | Jun 30 18:38 | |
| XRevan86 | what's a non-real veggy/fruit/nut? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | where is msb? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | did he die from some "wellness" product? | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/880840903358914562 | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | RPi 3-like #LePotato SBC showcases fast Amlogic S905X SoC | Jun 30 18:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/mbEgFVRmiz (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 30 18:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RPi 3-like Le Potato SBC showcases fast Amlogic S905X SoC | Tux Machines | Jun 30 18:39 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, he's fine just doesn't visit IRC for some reason. | Jun 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: right, but it's not the same as the aforementioned link | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | they sell mystic s* | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: hope so | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | he had some health issues last year | Jun 30 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Well, I VoIP'd him yesterday. | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I saw his sites linked to in reddit last week | Jun 30 18:40 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz just like the snake oil of old, just skip it | Jun 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "MICROSOFT WAR ON LINUX" | Jun 30 18:40 |
| abeNd-org | eat real food, not that difficult | Jun 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz | you mean unprocessed? | Jun 30 18:41 |
| schestowitz | "real" | Jun 30 18:41 |
| abeNd-org | https://nutritionfacts.org/ explains it a lot better than I can | Jun 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | ok, thank you, will have a look | Jun 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | we eat lots of fruit and veg these days, plus milk, tea (no sugar) and chicken (unprocessed, just cooked) | Jun 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | sometimes fish | Jun 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Most people I know eat very differently, all the "cool" (commercial) things | Jun 30 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But no other meat like beef and pork? | Jun 30 18:43 |
| abeNd-org | i still eat fish sometimes, but i havent touched dairy/beef/poultry/pork in ages | Jun 30 18:45 |
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| abeNd-org | and before you say that small dietary change sounds "drastic", doesnt a triple bypass sound a bit drastic? | Jun 30 18:57 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 19:43 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@bartongellman @Snowden Maybe they "not wittingly" (of course!)...' | Jun 30 20:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 20:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Going through KDE's bugzilla is like Inception. | Jun 30 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty soon you're in a bug inside a bug inside a bug and you don't know what's real anymore. | Jun 30 20:29 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @normative Somehow, and many people have noticed...' | Jun 30 20:29 | |
| DaemonFC | People were shocked to see that KMail's send later feature was sending email in plain text for four years before anyone found out. Doesn't surprise me. The quality of most of KDE is declining. | Jun 30 20:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: still got the irc logs, right? | Jun 30 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you hear that system76 is making an Ubuntu-derived distribution called Pop OS? | Jun 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | What an awful name. | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | [19:43] <MinceR> http://i.imgur.com/aHwJfJB.jpg | Jun 30 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't even lay out a rationale for it. They just announced it and some buzzwords like "It's for Creators!". | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | didn't get the reference, MinceR | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, awful name | Jun 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | thought so too | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | and how they spell it | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Pop!_OS | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Da Faq! | Jun 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Not even candy vendors would call anything that | Jun 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I get shipping Ubuntu, because it's not the best but it *is* an end user product. | Jun 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora states that their target audience is software developers, but it's perfectly usable as a desktop OS. | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | somewhere | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | i moved to a new laptop in the meantime :) | Jun 30 20:57 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought it was called "Pop!_OS" | Jun 30 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten away with using it as a desktop OS for many years, so when I see people cutting down Fedora.... Hey, it is (usually) pretty reliable. It's had a few bad releases, but every distribution does. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | >Fedora >perfectly usable | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | that's a good one | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Makes me think of pop rocks. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Do pop rocks and soda pop make your head explode? Never tried it. | Jun 30 20:58 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Valve made a really big mistake with the Steam Machine thing. | Jun 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | They should have released one version of it and said "This is the Steam Machine.". | Jun 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they let it turn into the same kind of mess that the PC industry is in by letting PC OEMs produce a bunch of different versions of it with different specifications. | Jun 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | So it has the weakness of a PC. If you don't spend money on a top notch machine, you may not be able to play many of the top tier games. | Jun 30 21:01 |
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| XRevan86 | Looks like fun | Jun 30 21:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 21:24 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/safety | Jun 30 21:25 |
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| XRevan86 | At least it's more fun than packaging Linphone %). | Jun 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | For some reason, it's friggin' hard | Jun 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | Not as hard as Audacity but still. | Jun 30 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | I hope the new Qt interface is worth it | Jun 30 21:31 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/wNtRT | Jun 30 21:43 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Driver-Specific-Tuning this is getting interesting. | Jun 30 22:03 |
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| MinceR | world's fastest train >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDyGyt4LeI | Jun 30 22:13 |
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| sebsebseb | worls stange MinceR :d | Jun 30 22:46 |
| MinceR | i don't mind strange | Jun 30 22:48 |
| MinceR | but the human infestation... | Jun 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's the OS from the southeast side of Chicago. | Jun 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Introducing.....POP POP POP POP OS. | Jun 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | that doesn't explain the underscore, though | Jun 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's a totally new OS. They changed the wallpaper. | Jun 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 22:55 |
| MinceR | just like the "OS" it's based on :> | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | well, in a few releases, anyway | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | for now, you have patches that break applications | Jun 30 22:56 |
| MinceR | they'll throw out and it'll just be debian with a different name, logo and wallpaper, and a few patches that break applications | Jun 30 22:57 |
| MinceR | then poettering will "standardize" "package management" | Jun 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | then eventually it and debian will just be fedora with a different name, logo and wallpaper | Jun 30 22:58 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/geopolitics | Jun 30 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Geopolitics | Jun 30 23:05 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian has formal QA processes that Fedora completely skips. | Jun 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: which amount to nothing, in the end | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | since they already rubberstamped cancerd as "stable" twice | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | debian has become a joke | Jun 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | (and they also keep shipping gnome as the default desktop. with mono.) | Jun 30 23:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: because systemd failed less tests than sysvinit. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, poettering's tests | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | you probably believe all the bullshit on his website. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no existing debian issue tests that existed before first like of systemd was ever written. | Jun 30 23:10 |
| MinceR | they make up all the bullshit in the world to make your favorite NSA backdoor seem like the only possible choice | Jun 30 23:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian QA started maintaining issue tests in 1998 | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | like they pretend all other init/rc systems (like openrc) do not even exist | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: like i said, debian QA's tests and debian QA itself isn't worth shit. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| oiaohm | openrc failed on stableablity. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | also, APT is a fucking unreliable mess with worthless error messages. | Jun 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | ah, good thing cancerd that eats tons of CPU, leaks RAM, fails to boot, fails to shut down, fails to start services, etc. is "stable" | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | fuck your lies. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Debian had tests backing it selection. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, "tests" made up by cancerd cultists | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the other distributions did not. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | No | Jun 30 23:12 |
| oiaohm | Tests that existed before systemd was written. | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | just like when gartner publishes an "independent" "study" with m$ copyrights they forgot to remove | Jun 30 23:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you can make up all the bullshit in the world and it just won't make cancerd any less of a train wreck. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Debian had a list of faults of sysvinit they wantted fixed before systemd appeared. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if you want cancerd to look good, go fix it. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | i don't care. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit worked just fine for tons of people and cancerd breaks all over the place | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Really there is a reason why lot of push to systemd happened and it not systemd people. | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | sysvinit was easy to swap out with tons of other systems | Jun 30 23:13 |
| oiaohm | Bull shit | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | cancerd hooks itself into the system with millions of tentacles | Jun 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | once you get into it, there's no getting out | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | which is of course what you cultists all wanted. | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Debian attempt to be pure multi init in 1999 | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | force everyone to your shitty system so you don't have to endure other people having systems that work better | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | Then they found out how much sysvinit particular crap was connected to. | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | i can imagine | Jun 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | like their own atrocious rc scripts | Jun 30 23:14 |
| oiaohm | systemd makes that problem in face because all the connected stuff is now in one item. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | which they never bothered to redesign properly | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | no, all that connected stuff and tons more is now in one item | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit tentacles were well hidden. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | before you know it, the whole userspace is one item | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, so well hidden that gentoo and funtoo swapped it out for openrc | Jun 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | and slackware swapped it out for their bsd-style rc | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | openrc maintained sysvinit support. | Jun 30 23:15 |
| oiaohm | And systemd had to as well. | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | and several people used different systems, like runit | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | and guix used dmd | Jun 30 23:16 |
| oiaohm | Have you ever used runit or dmd and noted how much you have to change from a sysvinit system. | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | not to mention running all these userspace programs on bsd-s | Jun 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | which gnome stopped so they could force cancerd on debian | Jun 30 23:17 |
| MinceR | who have an inexplicable obsession with gnome | Jun 30 23:17 |
| oiaohm | runit fails the existing tests of debian due to leaking processes from service monitoring as well. | Jun 30 23:17 |
| oiaohm | and that is even under BSD. | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | badly written processes | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | meanwhile, cancerd leaks ram | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | and eats 3% cpu on a system that's doing something else | Jun 30 23:18 |
| oiaohm | those defects were not in the debian test cases to check for. | Jun 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | then there's the system where emacs is actively being used yet dbus, packagekit and systemd are the 3 processes using the most cpu time | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | how the fuck is that possible? | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | is the NSA mining bitcoins on those machines or what? | Jun 30 23:19 |
| oiaohm | So those need to be added to the checklist for next time. | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, see, this is what i'm getting at | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian came up with the "tests" so they could push the malware they wanted to push all along | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | and there won't be a next time | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian jumped into the chasm | Jun 30 23:19 |
| MinceR | debian used to be a free, universal os with stable releases | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | they fucked up on all of those points | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | No those tests existed before systemd. Debian started looking for a new init solution in 1999 | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | it would be stupid to trust them with any of that ever again | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Well before systemd. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | therefore debian is now a system for idiots | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | and nobody else. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | ooh, a "solution" | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | fucking suits. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Most distributions were also looking for a replacement. | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | see, this is debian's problem | Jun 30 23:20 |
| MinceR | they don't have engineers calling the shots | Jun 30 23:20 |
| oiaohm | So there was a gap in the market unserviced. | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, "most" as in the 3 controlled by redhat and the hundreds blindly following redhat and debian | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | even canonical, who knew cancerd was going to suck | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | but they weren't willing to do any work | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | ooh, there was a market gap! | Jun 30 23:21 |
| oiaohm | systemd sucked less than canonicals own upstart. | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | you claim there was demand! | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | so why the fuck not let people _choose_? | Jun 30 23:21 |
| MinceR | why use all the fucking tricks to force this shit on people, if you're so fucking confident that it's perfect? | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | see, your cult's acts show your party lines to be the lies that they are. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| oiaohm | Problem is when you run the test cases. None of the existing inits before systemd and openrc were passing. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | just like the presence of the Endorsement Key in the Treacherous Platform Module busted all the lies about it having benign purposes. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| oiaohm | There was a demand with nothing servicing it. | Jun 30 23:22 |
| MinceR | the test cases matter more than what happens in the real world? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | what the hell are you smoking? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Those test cases were based of real world reported bugs. | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | which test case checked for processes not being sent SIGTERM, only SIGKILL? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | because your "perfect" "service manager" fucked that right up | Jun 30 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR you got some expereince flashing phones ? | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | and they claimed it's because cgroups can't do their job properly. | Jun 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: no, i don't like to risk it | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: meaning ? | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | i want a phone that boots off a removable device, but it would make too much sense for this industry of retards to implement | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: it can brick the phone. | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeh so it wont boot up at all or properly you mean? | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 30 23:24 |
| MinceR | and if you're especially unlucky, it will be unfixable | Jun 30 23:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I just been welll trying to get ubports on | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | since ubuntu touch is otherwise deaad really | Jun 30 23:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: you do need to check the phone. Some like nexus can be worth it because they have a fixed rom for reintalling firmware in case of uploading bad firmware. | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | it's crap anyway | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thought its a meizu fun lets try flyme os possibly | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | a guy from linx voice told me it sucked | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, at least nexus officially supports replacing the firmware | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | two years ago at event | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | too bad they're otherwise crap | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | but then I thught hold on ! | Jun 30 23:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: but many phones the firmware image includes the rom writting tool so it fails phone is stuffed | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | Meizu powerd by ubuntu screen | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | no removable battery, no memory card slot, no nothing | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | thats in the fime wire itself? | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | if I put flyme os on it could change that to the flyme os one | Jun 30 23:25 |
| MinceR | hell, they didn't even put removable storage device support in AOSP, because fuck users | Jun 30 23:25 |
| sebsebseb | keeping it as that even, if I put upbports on after? | Jun 30 23:26 |
| MinceR | this industry fucking sucks | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | thats the propritary stuff ubports cant get into ? | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | I am not sure | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah this no removable battery stuff is uh really | Jun 30 23:26 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: so I shoudn't just try and flash this and that then really? | Jun 30 23:27 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: this ubuntu tool script seems to work or like it will work now I know what to do with buttons etc | Jun 30 23:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember test cases based off existing bugs. Is not like formal design process where you design tests for everything that can happen. Systemd uptake shows a particular process failure. That process failure is creates the incorrect presume that systemd people had to push hard for how fast the change was. The market was basically primed for a init system/service management change. | Jun 30 23:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so what poettering fucks up that everybody else got right before doesn't matter. | Jun 30 23:28 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, this is why you'll never understand people actually using these things. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: you eat up every single lie, every crooked test from poettering and his followers, without an ounce of critical thinking. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | s/test/"test"/ | Jun 30 23:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the same tests were applied to upstart when debian was looking to change to that. | Jun 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | ooh, the market was primed | Jun 30 23:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: problem is there is a time line problem. | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | yet the "change" had to be forced on the market | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | THIS IS WHAT CANCERD CULTISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | you're a fucking joke | Jun 30 23:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what force. | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | the one that made debian's leadership implode and turn against its users? | Jun 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | which planet are you living on, oiaohm? | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: debian leader ship had been fighting about init systems since 2000 | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | yeah, probably instigated by the gnome people on redhat payroll | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: No | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its on a mailing list that you have never read. | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | just as gnome's forcing a dependency was what made them force cancerd on their users | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | oh well, if redhat munchkins do it on a mailing list, that's totally different | Jun 30 23:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: gnome dependency on systemd comes after debian selection to use systemd. | Jun 30 23:31 |
| MinceR | it's fucking irrelevant where they do it. | Jun 30 23:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: is this timeline problems. | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | sure it does | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | and i'm sure you're privy to every little discussion they have with each other | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | you overhear every little hint the redhat munchkins pass on to the morons at debian who insist on shipping gnome as default desktop | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | in private | Jun 30 23:32 |
| MinceR | shit, you're not redhat, you're NSA?! | Jun 30 23:33 |
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| oiaohm | Gnome selection in debian is historic. And that is before redhat had major involement in gnome. | Jun 30 23:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really most of your stuff fails basic timeline checking. | Jun 30 23:34 |
| MinceR | yes, and the fact that they considered switching to xfce several times and then backed out is also historic | Jun 30 23:34 |
| MinceR | it's just that you ignored that because it doesn't fit your propaganda | Jun 30 23:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you ever read why they did not switch. | Jun 30 23:35 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they came up with some bullshit excuse | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | the fact is, i know gnome, i know what a horrible train wreck it is at least since 2.x | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | and what potential it used to have | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so bullshit excuse for making crap up. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | which the iPod People crushed. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: go compare the gnome HIG with the crApple HIG. i'll wait. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so you are clueless and just admitted it. | Jun 30 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no it not compare. | Jun 30 23:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | When did xfce get hdpi support? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | now you just lie, plain and simple | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | what do you need hdpi support for? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | can you set font sizes? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | can you set icon sizes? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Answer question | Jun 30 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Or admit you don't know | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | do you have gui toolkits that have proper layouting and so actually scale to accommodate widget contents? | Jun 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | x is not windows. | Jun 30 23:39 |
| oiaohm | So you don't know | Jun 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | (i know, you love windows because it forces a lot more shit on users and that turns you on) | Jun 30 23:39 |
| MinceR | when the fuck did IT stop being about empowering users and start being about forcing shit on users? | Jun 30 23:39 |
| oiaohm | So clueless rant | Jun 30 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Come on admit you don't know the answer. | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | yes, that's what you do every day | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | i wonder if ratcrap even pays you for it | Jun 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | not like you'll admit it | Jun 30 23:40 |
| oiaohm | https://xfce.org/download/changelogs/4.12 The answer is only this year. | Jun 30 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xfce.org | Xfce 4.12 Changelog – Xfce | Jun 30 23:40 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: They already have it? | Jun 30 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | they only just now moved to Gtk3 and they already did all the stuff necessary for hidpi? | Jun 30 23:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Now for something that does not know what monitor user will have connected its a deal breaker having a weakness like that. | Jun 30 23:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now next question is when will xfce get wayland support. | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually stable and usable? | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will wayland be actually usable for gaming? | Jun 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: when will you stop insisting that distributors break everybody's systems so you can have the latest shiny half-baked misfeature forced on them? | Jun 30 23:44 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: issues like this is why xfce failed the last round. Next stable release xfce will come up again. It might win at that time if it developed far enough. | Jun 30 23:44 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, yeah, your idol came up with a bullshit "comparison" table about "init systems" too | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | just because someone pretends to do a formal test or comparison doesn't mean they aren't twisting everything to get the result they wanted all along | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, there won't be a "next stable release" | Jun 30 23:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there are already benchmarks on wayland, | Jun 30 23:45 |
| MinceR | debian stopped doing stable releases after wheezy | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | now they just release half-baked shit | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: guess what, most people don't use their computers to run benchmarks | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is wrong comparison table on init systems that pottering used was first designed by gentoo developers. Just he put the systemd data in and put it on his own blog. | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that table did not check for the defects systemd had. | Jun 30 23:46 |
| MinceR | yeah, i know at least one "gentoo developer" who is totally clueless and is just pushing cancerd everywhere | Jun 30 23:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the compare table design predates systemd by 4 years. | Jun 30 23:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this was the big problem the process was not using formal specificaiton compare standards. | Jun 30 23:47 |
| MinceR | no, the big problem is that corrupt people are being put in charge of formerly valuable systems | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | LOL | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | and they get to fuck everything up | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | some of them even get ratcrap's money behind them to break most distributions | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | No Linux distribution runs a proper formal validation. | Jun 30 23:48 |
| MinceR | and it fucking worked | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | List of defects would not exist if it worked. | Jun 30 23:48 |
| oiaohm | for everyone. | Jun 30 23:49 |
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| MinceR | i mean, they got debian to adopt their malware | Jun 30 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm ok back, what was that about bricking phones? | Jun 30 23:49 |
| MinceR | they also got ubuntu to adopt their malware, even though the guy allegedly in charge _knew_ it was shit | Jun 30 23:49 |
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| MinceR | and the hundreds of derivatives just shuffle after them into the chasm | Jun 30 23:49 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: some phones have a fixed firmware writing rom that you can force the phone into if the firmware upload fails. Other phones don't | Jun 30 23:50 |
| MinceR | we have hardly a handful of gnu/linux remaining | Jun 30 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what does that mean? | Jun 30 23:50 |
| MinceR | usually that "fixed" "rom" can also be flashed, afaik | Jun 30 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR right now no os on here my Meizu MX 4 | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical image gone bye bye | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | I been trying a script | Jun 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | they tend to have several stages in the boot process, with many images on the internal storage device, and they tend to let you flash all of them | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | didn't work properly first time, since dind't get to second part or turned off to early, but hten tried to do cyanomd option to also in the script, thaats not really worked at all for whatever reaon, it wants a image | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | no osees on phone basically yeah | Jun 30 23:51 |
| MinceR | but it's some of the time not even public what they do | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | just get the Meizu powered by ubuntu boot up screen, and thats about it, and can get into the fast mode and so o n | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | now my question is | Jun 30 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | that grapihic | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | that boot up screen, is that in the phones firmewier itself, not the OS? even a propritary thing ? | Jun 30 23:52 |
| MinceR | Allwinner SoCs can allegedly boot from anywhere, even USB storage devices -- but there's no documentation about them available for anyone who isn't manufacturing huge amounts of devices with them | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | so if I put on flymeos for example the Meizu android fork thing, it would change that to the one for flyme probably or try to, and could be a probelm getting the old one back, if its proptiray ? | Jun 30 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: MinceR is the boot up grahica, tighed to the hardware, not really the OS | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | graphic | Jun 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | is it even designed for your hardware? | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | yep that one is designed for the MX 4 Ubuntu Editition | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | which is my phone | Jun 30 23:53 |
| MinceR | one of the things that prevented me from wanting to flash my phone (beside the risk of bricking) was that nobody's rom would support the pen and digitizer | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | yeah well the ubports images work been tested with mx 4 | Jun 30 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | but a recent version of flyme os probably hasn't really ! | Jun 30 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | even if it sayas on flyme site that should be able to run on mx 4 | Jun 30 23:54 |
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| sebsebseb | wanted a llook but its just some sucky android based thing really, it seems | Jun 30 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm flymeos site had certain warnigns about falshing or whatever, that seemd a bit off putting too | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | well yeah, in general, flashing can brick the system | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | and nobody wants to do the obvious ways to do it right | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oiaohm I guess phone softwre isn't just a OS, it's the whole uh thing, whatever the equivilent to the bios is as well? yeah ? | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | it's not that clear cut, afaik | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | hence why its called frmwire | Jun 30 23:56 |
| MinceR | it's not an x86 pc | Jun 30 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | exactly its diffenret | Jun 30 23:57 |
| MinceR | there are no such quasi-standardized common parts | Jun 30 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | thats what I mean | Jun 30 23:57 |
| MinceR | iirc Linus used to complain about that long ago | Jun 30 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah flashing goes wrontg | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | phone wont boot | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | bricked | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | hmm | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | thats the risk | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | may not be worth the risk, for some stupid android based chinse os then ! | Jun 30 23:58 |
| razielle_tzu | it's usually a soft-bricking that can be corrected with another image | Jun 30 23:58 |
| sebsebseb | 1. I want to use this phone as a ubuntu phone, well ubports now :d when I have flashed | Jun 30 23:58 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: basically phones don't always have anything like a bios. Some do those are the ones that can be corrected by apply another image. | Jun 30 23:59 |
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| sebsebseb | well this one has fast boot and recovery mode options thatsa bout it | Jul 01 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Jul 01 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | 2. android based stuff sucks really, actsaully anndroid sucks really :d | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | 3. exceptoin to that would be remix os | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | unfortunately all the other phone OSes suck even more | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | a lot more | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah for some sucky android basd os, may not be worth the risk of the possible bricking etc | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | and i suspect that the telcos don't want this to change | Jul 01 00:02 |
| MinceR | and the market probably doesn't demand it either | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | well companies can try the altenraive os route some have | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | but | Jul 01 00:02 |
| sebsebseb | plenty of money is made as a hardware manufacture or network from android so | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | most of the money available to people selling phones are from simpletons who believe a hypePhone is a "smartphone" | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah | Jul 01 00:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: a lot of my phones have been due people upgrading. | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what you mean ? | Jul 01 00:03 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: so when I have not paid for the phone bricking it is not a problem. | Jul 01 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | second hand ? | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | so they aren't going to develop devices that put the user in control | Jul 01 00:03 |
| MinceR | hell, they're switching to nonremovable batteries | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | yep ubuntu tuch / ub ports and salifish os put the user in control for the most part | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | on the software side that is | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | because ooh aah look the back of the device is made of a material that is perfectly impractical for the purpose | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | for phones that run on | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | fucking retards | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes even the mx 4 has a non removable battery hmm | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | but most of my other phones have a removable :) | Jul 01 00:04 |
| MinceR | i'm just waiting for glass _over_ shiny metal | Jul 01 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | actsaully could open up the mx 4 battery | Jul 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | non removable batteries could come a major problem with flights starting to lock down on laptops and the like on flights. | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | but warning on it not too | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | etc | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | so you can block RF and wireless charging _and_ collect fingerprints and cracks at the same time! | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: how ? | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | well, another major problem there is the fascist governments | Jul 01 00:05 |
| MinceR | which approach everything from the viewpoint of "what else could we ban? how else could we screw with the ordinary people?" | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: Meizu powerd by Ubuntu graphic, is that tighed to the hardware? no os on here now | Jul 01 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | on the mx 4 | Jul 01 00:05 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: if they say no explosive materials at all on in carry on. That does forbid mobile phone batteries. | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: is the the propritary bit that Ubports cant just change ? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| razielle_tzu | how the fuck would i know without playing with one? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | especially dump, whose administration decided to ban laptops from being carried on board | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: so if I put on a different hardware usch as flymeos it would change that oteh flyme os one, and maybe keep it there, | Jul 01 00:06 |
| MinceR | i'm sure they'll be shocked when it turns out that what remains of the IT industry of trumpistan is performing even worse | Jul 01 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: true, but taking a guess? | Jul 01 00:06 |
| razielle_tzu | i know nothing about the phones, i can't even take a guess | Jul 01 00:07 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: now using like a nimh battery pack connected to a phone with a removable battery that operates with battery removed. would be a non explosive combination. | Jul 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | but the nimh battery pack itself would send most of the morons into a fit of paranoid fear | Jul 01 00:08 |
| MinceR | they'd assume it was a bomb | Jul 01 00:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or plug into aircraft provided power. | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | i doubt they'll ever let you do that | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | they're even afraid that consumer RF equipment will screw with their precious snowflake equipment | Jul 01 00:09 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder how much of this microsoft/apple/redhat "quality" software is allowed to run on board the plane itself... | Jul 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | they got away with running winblows on cars, after all... | Jul 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some flights do have usb ports https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-australia-powers-up-with-at-seat-ac-usb-for-boeing-737 | Jul 01 00:10 |
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| MinceR | oh, nice | Jul 01 00:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: even worse that is 240 | Jul 01 00:10 |
| MinceR | 240V? | Jul 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Yep usb and 240V AC | Jul 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | that's nice | Jul 01 00:11 |
| MinceR | you can get away with thinner wires :> | Jul 01 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Now it if you can get you device on board is the problem. | Jul 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | And if it will work with battery removed. | Jul 01 00:12 |
| MinceR | and what will you do when they "lose" (or steal) the battery from your checked baggage :> | Jul 01 00:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: now that worse if you phone with removable battery will not work with battery removed. | Jul 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: or if you have to place your complete phone in checked baggage and they lose it. | Jul 01 00:13 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:13 |
| oiaohm | I know of a few who are checking their laptop but removing the harddrive and carrying on the harddrive. | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Phones are nightmare because you don't have that option. | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | too bad even thinkpads are difficult to remove the storage device from | Jul 01 00:15 |
| MinceR | no separate hdd door anymore | Jul 01 00:15 |
| oiaohm | easy to remove harddrive is a feature some business traveller are now looking for. | Jul 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | at least one of the batteries is still removable | Jul 01 00:16 |
| MinceR | will they be able to suppress their drooling for "unibody" long enough for it to actually matter, though? | Jul 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | When you have dumb idiot guards who read laptop must be checked you have problem. | Jul 01 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Then fail to read if complete containing battery. | Jul 01 00:17 |
| MinceR | what are the rules concerning laptops, tablets, phones on airplanes in australia? | Jul 01 00:18 |
| MinceR | in europe, they didn't mind them, just had to put them separately on trays for the x-ray or whatever | Jul 01 00:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we have a double nightmare http://www.traveller.com.au/the-real-difficulties-behind-banning-laptops-and-tablet-devices-in-plane-cabins-in-australia-gw5x94 | Jul 01 00:20 |
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| MinceR | great | Jul 01 00:21 |
| MinceR | are all of the five eyes going full retard now? | Jul 01 00:21 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: our existing regulation forbids the battery in the aircraft luggage and cargo holds of an aircraft. | Jul 01 00:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so taking a laptop to a country with a cabin ban is between rock and hard-place with Australian regulations unless you leave the battery behind. | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | so you can't take the device on board, but have to carry the batteries on board? | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yep | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | it's like they just roll dice to decide on the regulations now | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: welcome to ultra stupid. | Jul 01 00:23 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 00:23 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the battery regulation exists because we lost a mail aircraft to battery fire. | Jul 01 00:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: do note depending on where you are going you might not get your battery on board either. | Jul 01 00:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so laptop batteryless might be what you have. | Jul 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | or i just won't travel there | Jul 01 00:25 |
| MinceR | because fuck that noise | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | if they want to kill their IT industry, let them. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Or higher a private jet. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'll buy an entire fleet | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | and then i'll buy a country, too | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | This is what is stupid. | Jul 01 00:26 |
| MinceR | and an army, and a few hundred nukes | Jul 01 00:26 |
| oiaohm | A private jet for 20 people to the USA costs about 50 dollars more each but you can take on what ever you like. | Jul 01 00:27 |
| MinceR | so how will you find 20 people who want to go to the same place at the same time? | Jul 01 00:28 |
| MinceR | i doubt even the biggest businesses would routinely send 20 people on business trips at a time | Jul 01 00:28 |
| oiaohm | Mining companies. | Jul 01 00:29 |
| MinceR | how much do they need computers? | Jul 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Quite a bit thinking that normally includes a geology assessment team. | Jul 01 00:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 01 00:30 |
| oiaohm | As a solo person is 4-5 times normal ticket price. | Jul 01 00:31 |
| oiaohm | That does come a question how much you need sleep because that is absolutely sure to be free of crying babies. | Jul 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 00:32 |
| MinceR | all my flights so far were blissfully free of crying babies :) | Jul 01 00:32 |
| oiaohm | Solo is more expensive due to having to cover the staff costs. So really fast service. | Jul 01 00:37 |
| MinceR | "Yang chas Solo chone Wookiee!" | Jul 01 00:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #1637800 “add a motd script for news” : Bugs : base-files package : Ubuntu | Jul 01 10:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Add a new update-motd script for printing news and/or important notices." | Jul 01 10:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Will there be any...' | Jul 01 10:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881082226728939520 | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | risk for customers | Jul 01 10:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 10:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 10:31 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement risk for customers...' | Jul 01 10:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym' | Jul 01 10:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym | Jul 01 10:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn May has a date. https://t.co/g8kxVO75Ym' | Jul 01 10:47 | |
| oiaohm | Really the grsecurity one has been a problem for a while with not working with upstream. | Jul 01 10:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement risk for customers...' | Jul 01 10:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives Austerity for the poor...' | Jul 01 11:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6jv59l/til_the_json_licence_is_not_free_because_you_may/ | Jul 01 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | TIL the JSON licence is not free, because you may not use it for Evil : linux | Jul 01 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://social.gl-como.it/display/3e3ce0df13594cc5f203fa9808762540 | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | On brokeness, the live installer and being nice to people | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | This morning I've read this. | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | I understand that somebody on the internet will always be trolling, but I just wanted to point out: | Jul 01 11:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-social.gl-como.it | Social@GL-Como (display) | Jul 01 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | * that the installer in the old live images has been broken (for international users) for years | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | * that nobody cared enough to fix it, not even the people affected by it (the issue was reported as known in various forums, but for a long time nobody even opened an issue to let the *developers* know). | Jul 01 11:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 01 11:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "How to break your licence with humour for dummies" | Jul 01 11:14 |
| XRevan86 | The thought of the "for good not evil" clause being legally enforced is a scary one. | Jul 01 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | One could define Evil as anything that goes against the American Way or something. | Jul 01 11:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kkgni/what_do_you_think_richard_stallmans_opinion_is_on/ | Jul 01 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What do you think Richard Stallman's opinion is on the recent GNU/NT implementation? : linux | Jul 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/fQUMvfU | Jul 01 11:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nice proprietary software - Imgur | Jul 01 11:24 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: MinceR https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6kdcme/why_does_systemd_have_its_own_dns_resolver/ | Jul 01 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why does systemd have it's own DNS resolver? : linux | Jul 01 11:30 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: #Systemd, #ELSA, and #OutlawCountry https://t.co/f9idGcrADo...' | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @DailyMirror In an age of medieval restrictions...' | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Systemd, ELSA, and OutlawCountry | Tux Machines | Jul 01 11:33 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: it does list the features the systemd resolver has and a lot of other resolvers are missing. | Jul 01 11:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @DailyMirror In an age of...' | Jul 01 12:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105478373298177 | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Warning: #Grsecurity Potential contributory infringement | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief risk for customers | Jul 01 12:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/aS5zOIuxv3 (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 12:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Warning: Grsecurity: Potential contributory infringement risk for customers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #copyright #security | Jul 01 12:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105752156491777 | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 12:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 12:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881105885623406593 | Jul 01 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux #Graphics: #Radeon #AMD #Vega and #Mesa | Jul 01 12:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/NQ0FM0FEw2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Graphics: Radeon/AMD/Vega and Mesa | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/881106364151607298 | Jul 01 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Jul 01 12:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief https://t.co/r1hSs6sEt1 (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian | Jul 01 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why You Should Reconsider Debian | Tux Machines | Jul 01 12:46 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jul 01 12:46 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited '#RedHat News https://t.co/lSwkieev9l #gnu...' | Jul 01 13:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat News | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881123869473595393 | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft Abuses, and | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Restrictions https://t.co/MJW9c92vt1 | Jul 01 13:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Systemd, OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, Microsoft Abuses, and Restrictions | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881124181680812033 | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 13:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 13:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 13:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 13:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo...' | Jul 01 13:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 13:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The Tories chaeted. Again. Redo the election....' | Jul 01 13:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881125845737369600 | Jul 01 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia | Jul 01 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Jul 01 13:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ioHzFEXjsO (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jul 01 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Radeon ProRender, Mir, Xwayland, NVidia GPUs Linux Gamers Use and More | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 13:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881126198868402176 | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeCAD development news and users | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE (www.tuxmachines.org) #cad | Jul 01 13:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #software | Jul 01 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeCAD development news and users | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:25 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, back to quasi-normal after the power failure | Jul 01 13:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Do you host maxhost.org at home? | Jul 01 13:30 |
| cubexyz | yes | Jul 01 13:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881127151550050304 | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Design & Animation Software, #Linphone | Jul 01 13:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/GZk1WayE5K (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jul 01 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: José, Buildah, Poppins, KeePassXC, LabPlot, Design & Animation Software, Linphone | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: José, #Buildah, #Poppins, #KeePassXC, #LabPlot, Design &...' | Jul 01 13:38 | |
| cubexyz | ups is getting old :-/ | Jul 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | battery only lasted 12 minutes this time | Jul 01 13:39 |
| cubexyz | ummm, 2004 | Jul 01 13:41 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeCAD development news and users https://t.co/bYqbCCIboE #cad...' | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @HummingShia favourited 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/HummingShia/status/881131344016924672 | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @HummingShia https://t.co/f15efyOJfM (www.tuxmachines.org) #howto #gnu | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #unix | Jul 01 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jul 01 13:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Graphics: #Radeon #ProRender, #Mir, #Xwayland, #NVidia GPUs Linux...' | Jul 01 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881133485326557186 | Jul 01 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating | Jul 01 13:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz System https://t.co/n2HZjPwbnW (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop: iMac Pro Substitute, System76's New Operating System | Tux Machines | Jul 01 13:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #dell #gnu #linux #system76 | Jul 01 13:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @MrIvanJohnson https://twitter.com/MrIvanJohnson/status/881135153636147200 | Jul 01 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines @schestowitz thanks Roy, hadn't heard of | Jul 01 14:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Pop!_OS (though knew of System76 of course). Interesting | Jul 01 14:04 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/f15efyOJfM #howto #gnu #linux #unix...' | Jul 01 14:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '*Ubuntu 17.10 Alpha 1 Artful#Aardvark Out for Opt-in...' | Jul 01 14:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 14:15 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: because it has to have its own everything. | Jul 01 14:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump @CNN Fox News is fake news also,...' | Jul 01 14:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881139405456592898 | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft Abuses, and | Jul 01 14:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Restrictions https://t.co/MJW9c92vt1 | Jul 01 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Security Updates, Systemd, OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, Microsoft Abuses, and Restrictions | Tux Machines | Jul 01 14:16 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to...' | Jul 01 14:17 | |
| MinceR | http://68.media.tumblr.com/99e6670ac7dab4089e4fd152cc83debf/tumblr_osbk3uQT6w1tjekmfo1_1280.jpg | Jul 01 14:22 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AlesonITC favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 14:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of other people's...' | Jul 01 14:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @realDonaldTrump You shouldn't make fun of...' | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held accountable? https://t.co/G9x3tKbqVk' | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Leaks reveal Amber Rudd's involvement in Bahamas offshore firms | Business | The Guardian | Jul 01 14:25 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn But will Rudd be held...' | Jul 01 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd. They play...' | Jul 01 14:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Push for investigation of Rudd....' | Jul 01 14:34 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4' | Jul 01 14:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/TZHI7lOZh4 | Jul 01 14:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Tories take away their health coverage Take...' | Jul 01 14:56 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 15:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN | Jul 01 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | Red Hat lockin perhaps, MinceR | Jul 01 15:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If, not as? https://t.co/iag5TNo6WN' | Jul 01 15:28 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @systemdsucks favourited '#Security: Security Updates, #Systemd, #OutlawCountry, Microsoft Cyberattacks, #Microsoft...' | Jul 01 15:47 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Jul 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | that's what it's all about | Jul 01 15:57 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @topnotifier favourited 'Ubuntu 17.10 Finishes Its Transition to Python 3.6,...' | Jul 01 15:57 | |
| MinceR | make all former gnu/linux users depend on this massive hairball and make sure it's unmaintainable by anyone else | Jul 01 15:57 |
| MinceR | sell support contracts, rake in the money | Jul 01 15:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by First #Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve | Jul 01 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @AlejosAngel Salting for User Passwords | Jul 01 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/CBCGabi9WL (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 16:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Calamares 3.1 Point Release Is Out to Improve Salting for User Passwords | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881172493091975168 | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu Leftovers | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gY9MLxzMcj (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jul 01 16:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hurd | Jul 01 16:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:31 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/IkVdH | Jul 01 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A dump for your dump - Album on Imgur | Jul 01 16:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881173291762843649 | Jul 01 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Introduction to #Kubernetes, New Release and Why It | Jul 01 16:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Matters https://t.co/cXkRUj7gDA (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jul 01 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction to Kubernetes, New Release and Why It Matters | Tux Machines | Jul 01 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #container #server #freesw | Jul 01 16:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ##Graphics and #Games on #gnu #linux | Jul 01 17:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Jul 01 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RedHat and #Fedora | Jul 01 20:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jul 01 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jul 01 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 20:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Netrunner 17.06 released https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS #kde #gnu #linux...' | Jul 01 20:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Jul 01 20:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 1/7/2017: Kubernetes 1.7 and Mesa 17.1.4 Released | Techrights | Jul 01 20:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/881239066460794881 | Jul 01 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Jul 01 20:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/FLEnsDVEwd (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | Jul 01 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 11.1 Release Candidate 1 | Tux Machines | Jul 01 20:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Smartphones | Jul 01 21:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/881239843912785920 | Jul 01 21:14 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/2Mizm | Jul 01 21:15 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I like how Breaking Bad makes fun of Intuit. | Jul 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | "I punched the numbers into Quckbooks and it turned green so that must be good, right?" | Jul 01 21:25 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | "You're managing your business accounts with Quickbooks.....I think I found the problem." | Jul 01 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Hey, I found a brand new bug in Fedora. :) | Jul 01 21:30 |
| MinceR | there's a shocker | Jul 01 21:30 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hot-lava | Jul 01 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hot Lava | Jul 01 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Bug 1466986 - SELinux is preventing ibus-daemon from 'read' accesses on the lnk_file machine-id. | Jul 01 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Bug 1466984 - [abrt] gnome-shell: touch_handle_surface_destroy(): gnome-shell killed by signal 6 | Jul 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Got that one yesterday. Went to close HexChat and the shell crashed. | Jul 01 21:31 |
| Elon_Satoshi | Anyone here heard of Parabola Linux? | Jul 01 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Looks like the weird bugs with Wayland still occur. | Jul 01 21:32 |
| MinceR | i've heard someone managed to run xonotic on wayland without the forced vsync | Jul 01 21:32 |
| MinceR | on weston, specifically | Jul 01 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Weston is just sort of a demo. | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think it's meant to be used. | Jul 01 21:33 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC woo databases are fun aren't they! :d | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jul 01 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I went to clean out my dconf file because too much crap had accumulated in it. | Jul 01 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: DaemonFC seems that's the way for me too see my old texts on my Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Phone now, since dind't do a proper back up, before ubporting it | Jul 01 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | and replacing the database file with my older one doens't just work either it seems | Jul 01 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | First you have to dump it to text and then hand edit the dead entries out of it and then you have to delete the database file and then tell dconf to import the text file you created. | Jul 01 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually harder to edit dconf to clean it out than it is the Windows Registry. | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I don't knpw about ubuntutuch/ubports | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | there probably is some way to get it using my old database actasully | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | but maybe have to mess around with other files too etc | Jul 01 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | and it would be cleaner to start over really anyway, since for certain contacts I had hundreds of texts, with me and them, so soo much scroll back | Jul 01 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | KDE doesn't use dconf and neither does Xfce. They use plain text files. | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and ubuntu touches uess a sqllite database | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | and uhmm maybe osmething ele some wehre for texts to hmm | Jul 01 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | ubuntutouch/ubports | Jul 01 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | If one gets messed up, then the error it causes is contained to that particular app. | Jul 01 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | If you lose a binary database, you lose everything. | Jul 01 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | So while you may lose your preferences for Kwrite, that's all. | Jul 01 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | But in GNOME, you'd lose all your preferences for everything in GNOME. | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | From Mutter to the Shell to every single app. | Jul 01 21:38 |
| MinceR | inb4 oiaohm_ mentions that slowlaris had registry before winblows | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | They set out to recreate the Windows Registry. :P | Jul 01 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | So if you lose one file, you're kind of screwed. | Jul 01 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't control the entire OS though, so your OS will still boot. :P | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | gnome used to not control the entire os | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | then systemd happened | Jul 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | though they probably have yet to 'integrate' dconf into systemd | Jul 01 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | systemd and wayland are now dependencies of GNOME. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Right now they are soft dependencies. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Only certain features are lost if you don't have systemd, like multiseat. | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | but what are you gonna do without multiseat? | Jul 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | what's the point of life without multiseat? | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | At some point in the future, when Wayland is sufficiently stable, the GNOME and GTK backends for X11 will be removed, I'm sure. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | no, well before wayland is sufficiently stable | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | remember, you're talking about gnome | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, FreeBSD still has GNOME. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| MinceR | not for long | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Multiseat doesn't work, but everything else does. | Jul 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of carrying ConsoleKit and patching it back into GNOME, they decided to drop multiseat. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's not really a feature most people use. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland wasn't designed to be used on FreeBSD either. | Jul 01 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | It makes heavy use of Linux-only features. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | So if the BSDs want it, they will need to implement those features first. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | The BSD folks hate Linux though. They hate Linux more than they like BSD. | Jul 01 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | There really isn't a whole lot of demand for BSD as a good desktop OS, so I doubt fixing it up is a high priority. | Jul 01 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I was a bit aggravated when fesco decided to rename Fedora's GNOME spin to "Fedora Workstation". | Jul 01 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Like you can't have a workstation if you don't run GNOME. | Jul 01 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm more or less happy with GNOME the way I have it set up, but the GNOME developers really pushed hard for their broken GNOME 3 HIG and made it too painful to even consider trying to fix it for years. | Jul 01 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Now they gave up and declared that they won't break the extensions every release anymore. | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | afaict the freebsd folks love windows and macos more than they love freebsd | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | so them hating everything linux isn't exactly a surprise | Jul 01 21:46 |
| MinceR | lol @ running redhat crap (and especially gnome) on an alleged "workstation" | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | "here's my workstation. i use it for rebooting 9001 times a day." | Jul 01 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | You can run RHEL as a desktop. They offer a subscription that isn't THAT expensive, but the subscription is really for support. | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | sure i can | Jul 01 21:47 |
| MinceR | but i'm not a masochist | Jul 01 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you don't need support you can use CentOS for free. | Jul 01 21:48 |
| MinceR | so i won't | Jul 01 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat doesn't mind CentOS, and in fact they encourage it. | Jul 01 21:48 |
| MinceR | you can even use centos, and if you're lucky, dbus, systemd and packagekit will even let you have a bit of cpu time for your applications. | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | ratcrap bought centos | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | they couldn't stand not having direct control over it | Jul 01 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's not hard to see why. You start out with CentOS and you learn the Red Hat way to administer the system and then maybe later you need support and you can turn it into RHEL in-place with a few commands. | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/arctoplabs/status/881244610739175424 | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Netrunner 17.06 released | Jul 01 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @arctoplabs https://t.co/i5HOJb1qhS (www.tuxmachines.org) #kde #gnu | Jul 01 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netrunner 17.06 released | Tux Machines | Jul 01 21:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jul 01 21:49 |
| MinceR | you start out with centos and learn it's not worth bothering with, then you move on to devuan or slackware or funtoo | Jul 01 21:49 |
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| MinceR | correction | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | you can't reboot a "workstation" running cancerd 9001 times a day | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | it can't boot that fast | Jul 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | oh the irony. | Jul 01 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Will Red Hat have a majority on the CentOS Governing Board? | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Between current CentOS Project team members hired by Red Hat, and existing Red Hat employees forming the initial board, Red Hat employees comprise the majority of the Governing Board. Based upon the merit criteria, the existing board may nominate additional board members from either within or outside of Red Hat. The board is capped at a total of 11 directors and must consist of a majority of Red Hat employees." | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Oh wow. | Jul 01 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | They took it over quietly by insisting on a majority on the CentOS board. | Jul 01 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Scientific Linux still exists. | Jul 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | they're all about leverage | Jul 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | just like another corporation based in a settlement the name of which starts with an R | Jul 01 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | So what does Red Hat gain by taking over CentOS? | Jul 01 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's still just a clone of RHEL. | Jul 01 21:58 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to make sense | Jul 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | much of what they do doesn't | Jul 01 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Fedora is moving towards a rolling release, slowly. | Jul 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | makes sense | Jul 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | that's one way in which it could become even more of a toy | Jul 01 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Testing before packages go into Rawhide and no more alpha releases seems like the start of that. | Jul 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | besides, they stopped even trying to be stable ages ago | Jul 01 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | Wanting to make Rawhide into something you *could* use daily with only minor problems instead of "Yeah, it breaks every few weeks. Watch out." seems logical. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | minor problems? | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | they don't need minor problems, they have systemd, gnome and YUM | Jul 01 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | Fedor 26 isn't even out yet and they're currently carrying 79 patches against the latest version of systemd. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's alarming, really. | Jul 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | carrying patches against systemd means they carry systemd | Jul 01 22:02 |
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| MinceR | and that's quite alarming | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Release now, turn your Enterprise Linux users into beta testers. | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Patch as you go. :P | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | "enterprise" | Jul 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | why does it increasingly look like "enterprise" is a derogatory term? | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | That 4 GB memory leak in 18 days on RHEL is something that wouldn't have been tolerated until RHEL 7. | Jul 01 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | By the time they stabilize one thing, they've already released a brand new replacement for something else. | Jul 01 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | So part of your system is always not working quite right. | Jul 01 22:03 |
| MinceR | they stabilize things? | Jul 01 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | And every time, it ends up in the majority of Linux distributions, except for the weird ones that nobody uses. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | i thought they just abandoned them and started over from zero | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | like this: https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html | Jul 01 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | The CADT Model | Jul 01 22:04 | |
| MinceR | i assure you some people do use the weird ones | Jul 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | i'm typing on one of them right now :> | Jul 01 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | By the time GNOME 2.32 came along, it was working well. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have never seen a registry on solaris. Binary logging systems yes. | Jul 01 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | A little too well.... | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | BAM! GNOME 3. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ah, so lendows does copy windows, after all | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They'll do it again soon I'm sure. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: solaris had directories filled with xml files. | Jul 01 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is nearly at the point where GNOME 2 was when they trashed it. | Jul 01 22:06 |
| MinceR | i doubt it | Jul 01 22:06 |
| MinceR | sure, gnome2 was shit, but it wasn't gnome3 | Jul 01 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | The MATE fork seems alright except for missing HiDPI support. | Jul 01 22:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have not seen a registry in systemd or gnome. I have seen the interdependant files that solaris had. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has a MATE spin but it's crap. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't bother to set it up well like Ubuntu MATE or Linux Mint do. | Jul 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu MATE doesn't use Compiz by default. It uses Marco with software compositing, but you can chaange it to hardware compositing if you want. | Jul 01 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz was never very stable. | Jul 01 22:09 |
| MinceR | compiz was never stable | Jul 01 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/intro-smf-basics-s11-1729181.html | Jul 01 22:09 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: configuration repository is what solaris would call something like gconf in gnome. | Jul 01 22:10 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: ooh, extra points for building it into the hairball | Jul 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | "This is, I think, the most common way for my bug reports to open source software projects to ever become closed. I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version." | Jul 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've reported about 30 bugs in various open source products this past month. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | One of them has been fixed upstream. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | WebkitGTK+ rendering some pages and then displaying a blank white page instead. | Jul 01 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | They tracked it back to a commit from June of 2015. | Jul 01 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, This had the hilarious effect of making Midori unable to render midori-browser.org | Jul 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 01 22:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the first appearance of the term configuration repository relates to CDE applications stacking all their configurations under ~/.dt | Jul 01 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently Midori can't render its own website for two years if you compile with Webkit2 version of WebkitGTK+ and nobody filed a bug report about it until I found it, MinceR | Jul 01 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | How do you miss THAT? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| MinceR | by not using midori | Jul 01 22:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it called what QA | Jul 01 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | The people who write Midori don't actually compile with all possible backends and then test them? | Jul 01 22:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: exactly very common in open source. Person is scratching itch so only test what they use unless it mandated. | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, totally an open source thing | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | like windows | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | they never test it | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | because it's open source | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | i'll look for another example | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | microsoft office! | Jul 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | no, wait, that's not it either | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I said it common in open source. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's so specific to open source | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | I did not say closed did not suffer from it. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Closed source is likely not to test at all. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | it's why the morons of redmond realized their usb stack was a pile of garbage and replaced with the one from freebsd | Jul 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | oh wait, they never fixed it. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | So it broken in all forms. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 26 is about to be finalized and it's got quite a few bugs left and some are quite serious. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I even had a kernel oops yesterday. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Open source at least 1 option works if you know what one. | Jul 01 22:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so there is a difference. | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | m$, with the help of ibm and crApple, made it acceptable and even expected in IT that products just don't work | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | people don't bat an eye if they have to reboot because the software or the hardware has shit the bed again | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | testing and bugfixing is considered a waste of resources | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | nowadays we can be glad if the product has any useful functionality that works at all | Jul 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | as the example of the iPhone shows, people actually don't insist on it anymore | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796#c3 | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Get this one... | Jul 01 22:19 |
| MinceR | they don't even expect it anymore | Jul 01 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 173796 – [GStreamer] Browsers that use WebkitGTK play some videos with severe distortion if using VA-API. | Jul 01 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC | Michael Catanzaro 2017-06-23 18:35:53 PDT | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Hey Victor, any chance you have time to look into this one? | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | (Also... is gstreamer1-vaapi intended to be installed by default by distros? Because right now, it's not. It's really not great that we have two different sets of bugs depending on whether this package is installed or not.) | Jul 01 22:19 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note I said open source test what they use. Note what you said testing and bugfixing to closed source waste of resources. Unless it manated you can bet on closed source not having any testing at all. | Jul 01 22:19 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i was hoping for a screenshot | Jul 01 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Without vaapi, it just melts your laptop when you play a video, but with vaapi, it corrupts the video sometimes. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: see, in software in general, untested products are common | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: decisions, decisions | Jul 01 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | So it's unusable either way. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: or you could try some other browser engine :> | Jul 01 22:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: level of untested is different. | Jul 01 22:20 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: they all suck, but some of them might suck less in this particular way | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I bumped my WebkitGTK+ package to 2.16.5 the other day. Turns out it doesn't fix any of the problems I've had. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | What a shock. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Crashing when trying to save images on certain sites. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Blank white page instead of rendering some sites. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Video corruption with vaapi enabled. | Jul 01 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Melting laptop without vaapi. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that VA-API play back issue. If you can download the video and play it in vlc forced to VA-API. I have had a few cases where it VA-API busted. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, but please let's work on sync that uses Firefox Sync servers but doesn't actually sync with Firefox.... | Jul 01 22:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I have also had a few cases where it gstreamer. | Jul 01 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Firefox Sync support only syncs your Epiphany (GNOME Web) stuff with other Epiphany browsers. | Jul 01 22:23 |
| MinceR | i don't trust these sync things | Jul 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | It has no compatibility with Firefox at all. Mozilla is said to be discussing ways to sync <> Epiphany. | Jul 01 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | That *would* be cool, but I see where this could end up being just another broken feature that lingers for a while and gets backed out. | Jul 01 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | The video quality of HEVC doesn't seem to fit the hype. | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | People are using it at half the bitrate of their old H264 releases and it does not look "Just as good at half the bitrate.". | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Am I the only person with eyes that work? | Jul 01 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that it makes some improvements to H264 bu they've been totally exaggerated. | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | of course they are, the clock is ticking | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | H264 patents will expire eventually | Jul 01 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | This sounds like Microsoft WMA all over again. "Just as good as MP3 at half the bitrate!". | Jul 01 22:26 |
| MinceR | they'll have to get the suckers to depend on newer patents | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | preferably with mandatory DRM | Jul 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Netflix is moving to it. Perhaps the bandwidth savings are worth the patent royalty fees? | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | perhaps they get a discount | Jul 01 22:27 |
| MinceR | for getting suckers into the racket | Jul 01 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | They probably also want to get the streams as small as possible to deal with the shitty internet providers in the US like Comcast who have their foot on the hose. :P | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | it won't work | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | comcast can restrict bandwidth as much as they want to | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | no miracle codec will help with that | Jul 01 22:28 |
| MinceR | has the orange-skinned psychopath eliminated the last vestiges of net neutrality yet? | Jul 01 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | His saboteur at the FCC is working on the process. They even had a pretend public comment phase and then closed it without paying attention to the public outrage. | Jul 01 22:30 |
| MinceR | ic | Jul 01 22:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: http://compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/h264_2012/mpeg4_avc_h264_video_codecs_comparison.pdf the improvement over H264 that H265 HEVC is a little hard. Thinking the open source x264 performs the best out of the H264 encoders. | Jul 01 22:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: most of the compares of H265 HEVC are against the standard closed source H264 encoder. | Jul 01 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've been happy enough with h.264. | Jul 01 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | People used to distribute videos using divx and it was awful. | Jul 01 22:36 |
| oiaohm | There is a divx H264 | Jul 01 22:36 |
| oiaohm | and that one is the closed source standard one. | Jul 01 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | ASP codecs just generally did not produce good quality files. | Jul 01 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes H265 closed source kicks the ass out divx H264. Not so good against x264 | Jul 01 22:37 |
| oiaohm | So it what you compare to. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| oiaohm | Now when H265 patents expire and open source developers can play with it who knows how good it will be. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it's good that we have open source because you can have a nasty maintainer of an open source project that acts like Hitler with it or tries to close it up again and delete the source code with no warning. | Jul 01 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | But other projects can simply fork it. | Jul 01 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | So I simply switched to xvid when that happened and everything was okay again. | Jul 01 22:39 |
| oiaohm | The biggest issue with x264 is performance in encoding. | Jul 01 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid#Sigma_Designs_controversy | Jul 01 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Xvid - Wikipedia | Jul 01 22:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, the same thing happened with Parallels Desktop (commonly used on Macs to run Windows in a VM). They stole a bunch of Wine Direct3D code and were refusing to comply with the license for a while. | Jul 01 22:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: xvid is H.263 and x264 contains a lot of features from xvid that made it good. | Jul 01 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The same companies that tell us that piracy is a crime (Sony for example) end up pirating open source software an awful lot. Sony used LAME in violation of the GPL and the MPAA used Xubuntu in violation of the GPL and many other licenses. | Jul 01 22:42 |
| oiaohm | I remember the Parallel one codeweavers got to first court hearing against them before they backed down. | Jul 01 22:45 |
| oiaohm | Codeweavers will serous-ally legally protect wine. | Jul 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | B$A also got caught for reproducing comments on laws from CompLex's Jogtar illegally | Jul 01 22:46 |
| MinceR | not sure if they got punished for it though | Jul 01 22:47 |
| MinceR | but the double standard is apparent | Jul 01 22:47 |
| oiaohm | The funny one was Microsoft windows iso writer using GPL. | Jul 01 22:47 |
| oiaohm | http://winsupersite.com/news/rafael-vindicated-microsoft-did-steal-open-source-code-usbdvd-tool | Jul 01 22:49 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/a-reason | Jul 01 23:22 |
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| Elon_Satoshi | MinceR: That can't be real | Jul 01 23:36 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 01 23:37 |
| Elon_Satoshi | I'm trying to install Parabola Linux on my laptop. AFAIK the best GNU approved operating system | Jul 01 23:39 |
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