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| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 Nearly Ready https://t.co/qD7T3dcr4x (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 00:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 00:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868688673998491648 | May 28 00:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mainframes, #Servers, and #Containers | May 28 00:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qYiSkFw4hG (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 00:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | May 28 00:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Mainframes, Servers, and Containers | Tux Machines | May 28 00:42 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mainframes, #Servers, and #Containers https://t.co/qYiSkFw4hG #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 28 00:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/868690000732446720 | May 28 01:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Mainframes, #Servers, and #Containers | May 28 01:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/qYiSkFw4hG (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 01:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw | May 28 01:28 |
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| cubexyz | I've added "the great suspender" to chrome | May 28 02:16 |
| cubexyz | we'll see how well it works | May 28 02:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868728476722806784 | May 28 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security : #Samba and #WannaCry https://t.co/x4y9Lc9SfN | May 28 03:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #smb emulated = | May 28 03:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | trouble if misconfigured | May 28 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security: Samba and WannaCry | Tux Machines | May 28 03:22 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security : #Samba and #WannaCry https://t.co/x4y9Lc9SfN #microsoft #windows...' | May 28 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/motters/status/868729512552542208 | May 28 03:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @motters Nearly Ready https://t.co/qD7T3dcr4x (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 03:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 03:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Debian Installer "Stretch" and Debian 9.0 "Stretch" Nearly Ready | Tux Machines | May 28 03:30 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868731043041361924 | May 28 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distro News: #Alpine, #Devuan, and #openSUSE | May 28 03:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/yo3C6TzZx3 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 03:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Distro News: Alpine, Devuan, and openSUSE | Tux Machines | May 28 03:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868731592050524162 | May 28 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME : #Mutter, #gresg, and #GTK | May 28 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/c2jLnWzx6N (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 03:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Mutter, gresg, and GTK | Tux Machines | May 28 03:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Distro News: #Alpine, #Devuan, and #openSUSE https://t.co/yo3C6TzZx3 #gnu...' | May 28 03:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME : #Mutter, #gresg, and #GTK https://t.co/c2jLnWzx6N #gnu...' | May 28 03:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/uAe1r9izfk' | May 28 03:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/uAe1r9izfk | May 28 03:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME : #Mutter, #gresg, and #GTK https://t.co/c2jLnWzx6N #gnu...' | May 28 03:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/868735410037547009 | May 28 03:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Distro News: #Alpine, #Devuan, and #openSUSE | May 28 03:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/yo3C6TzZx3 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 03:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737136882626560 | May 28 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/gIRzRsT3Gg (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | May 28 03:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 28 03:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737557256781824 | May 28 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games and #Software Leftovers https://t.co/gssK3tlC9g | May 28 03:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | May 28 03:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Games and Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 28 03:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737579406868480 | May 28 03:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/GpglJnYQty | May 28 03:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #linux | May 28 03:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Graphics News | Tux Machines | May 28 03:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737962963476480 | May 28 03:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/5/2017: #Mesa 17.1.1, #Wine 2.9, #KDevelop 5.1.1 | May 28 03:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/bH4I0N1lI7 (techrights.org) | May 28 03:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/5/2017: Mesa 17.1.1, Wine 2.9, KDevelop 5.1.1 | Techrights | May 28 03:58 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/gIRzRsT3Gg #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | May 28 04:00 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Games and #Software Leftovers https://t.co/gssK3tlC9g #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 28 04:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/5/2017: #Mesa 17.1.1, #Wine 2.9, #KDevelop 5.1.1...' | May 28 04:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Corbyn will bag it. Tories are in...' | May 28 04:08 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @KManango favourited '#Security : #Samba and #WannaCry https://t.co/x4y9Lc9SfN #microsoft #windows...' | May 28 04:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security: Samba and WannaCry | Tux Machines | May 28 04:36 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/4TebNMGYY4' | May 28 04:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @pestononsunday Do a better job than Dianne...' | May 28 05:11 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @oldestlivingboy favourited '#Canonical Readies #Mesa 17.1.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 and...' | May 28 05:37 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/FYates94/status/868767508832157696 | May 28 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FYates94: @HorshamGardener @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a politica… https://t.co/BowHD7uWli | May 28 05:56 | |
| acer-box | "Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a political statement is typed #infinitemonkeys" | May 28 05:56 |
| acer-box | The latest says 7 points https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/voting-intention-conservatives-43-labour-36-25-26-/ and YouGov is run by a Tory | May 28 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yougov.co.uk | YouGov | Voting Intention: Conservatives 43%, Labour 36% (25-26 May) | May 28 05:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @AugustoRuibal favourited 'Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III Is Coming...' | May 28 06:18 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/dFfo3FK.gifv | May 28 06:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | May 28 06:45 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | May 28 08:41 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Hi | May 28 08:44 |
| oiaohm | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/mesa/log/?h=r600-rats&utm_source=phx got to like using rats on a prototype branch. | May 28 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | ~airlied/mesa - Dave's mesa hackery | May 28 08:45 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hi | May 28 08:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868884400959700993 | May 28 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #VoidLinux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution | May 28 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/B06oH1GgXo (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 13:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Void Linux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution | Tux Machines | May 28 13:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#VoidLinux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution https://t.co/B06oH1GgXo #gnu...' | May 28 13:46 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#VoidLinux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution https://t.co/B06oH1GgXo #gnu...' | May 28 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sb101sb/status/868889831635644416 | May 28 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #VoidLinux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution | May 28 14:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sb101sb https://t.co/B06oH1GgXo (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 14:14 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If that is intended to suggest that...' | May 28 14:14 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange #trump going behind the backs of its...' | May 28 14:19 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Nicola #Sturgeon defends #Corbyn linking...' | May 28 14:23 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks SNP leader has just said the same,...' | May 28 15:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks SNP leader has just said...' | May 28 15:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/LhwUrWYzNA' | May 28 15:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Very much doubt so. If anything, they'd...' | May 28 15:44 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Very much doubt so. If...' | May 28 15:47 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn The immediate imperative is getting #tories out...' | May 28 15:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn There's no lack of money in circulation....' | May 28 15:52 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn If you can maintain Single Market and...' | May 28 16:02 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn If you can maintain Single...' | May 28 16:29 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @Conservatives https://t.co/kvnQLMHiC1' | May 28 16:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives https://t.co/kvnQLMHiC1 | May 28 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868930978340773888 | May 28 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and #KDE | May 28 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4uDxbhZbEr (tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | May 28 16:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and KDE | Tux Machines | May 28 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and #KDE https://t.co/4uDxbhZbEr #bsd...' | May 28 16:48 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @gurnaik retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and #KDE https://t.co/4uDxbhZbEr #bsd...' | May 28 16:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868944197704794112 | May 28 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | May 28 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vlOqZAeteT (tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | May 28 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #gpl | May 28 17:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | Tux Machines | May 28 17:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @motherfuckajew favourited 'These are the most exciting Linux powered devices...' | May 28 17:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868944469113978880 | May 28 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | May 28 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/vlOqZAeteT (tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | May 28 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #gpl | May 28 18:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868954889514135552 | May 28 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News: GNOME Release and More | May 28 18:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzMAK8e0lN (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 18:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GNOME and GTK News: GNOME Release and More | Tux Machines | May 28 18:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @motherfuckajew favourited '#GNOME and #GTK News: GNOME Release and More...' | May 28 18:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868955047962361856 | May 28 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux, #Blockchain, and #Graphics | May 28 18:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/pUPEH69jnF (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 18:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux, Blockchain, and Graphics | Tux Machines | May 28 18:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @motherfuckajew favourited '#Linux, #Blockchain, and #Graphics https://t.co/pUPEH69jnF' | May 28 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868955355631329280 | May 28 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Father in law turns 70 today (bless him!). Coming back | May 28 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | home Friday, won't cover #gnu #linux as much, sofollow | May 28 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines for all that... | May 28 18:21 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News: GNOME Release and More...' | May 28 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868955441274904577 | May 28 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux, #Blockchain, and #Graphics | May 28 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/pUPEH69jnF (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 18:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 28 18:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks @JulianAssange Somehow I doubt that whistleblowers in...' | May 28 18:55 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @wikileaks @JulianAssange Somehow I doubt that...' | May 28 18:58 | |
| liberty_box | https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/i-was-struck-by-lightning-yesterday-and-boy-am-i-sore/ | May 28 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | I was struck by lightning yesterday—and boy am I sore | Ars Technica | May 28 19:31 | |
| liberty_box | "Today, my whole body is soreeven my organs ache in a hard-to-describe waybut I feel lucky to have walked away unscathed. There's a fine line between awe and terror. I have now been inextricably nudged to the right of it." | May 28 19:31 |
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| DaemonFC | So, what's the plan for existing Ubuntu GNOME users? Do they just get updated to the next release and that's just "Ubuntu" now? I'd kind of like to know before I commit to installing something. | May 28 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not too sure that I like Wayland anyway. | May 28 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have a HiDPI display and when I tried out KDE on Wayland, I could only choose to scale 100%, 200%, etc. No 250% option. | May 28 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | May 28 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · Chicago · | May 28 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft Edge is safer than Chrome" | May 28 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | From the company that brought you NTFS file locking on $MFT. :) | May 28 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | I own some of Apple and Microsoft, indirectly. | May 28 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Index fund. Can't avoid them if I want my money in the index. Not sure I'd want to anyway. They have been making a lot of money lately. | May 28 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | The return on bonds is pathetic nowadays. It's a safe place for your money to rapidly lose value to inflation. The US is paying 2.3% on ten year notes and that's "high" by the standards of the developed world. | May 28 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to get higher returns is to accept default risk on bonds from entities with lower credit ratings. | May 28 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Someone will even lend Chicago Public Schools money, at triple the rate what a school system with good credit would pay. | May 28 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | So we're all trapped in the "most hated stock market rally ever". | May 28 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they call it that because the rally is happening due to a mix of inflation and low bond returns. Everyone piles up to get into the stock market in the hopes of beating the rate on bonds and that's why the market goes up. | May 28 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | I saw an article saying that Google and Amazon stocks are near $1,000 a share and that makes them easier to manipulate. The whole market is manipulated. | May 28 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | If the government was offering even 4-5% on bonds, which it was as recently as 20 years ago, people would pile out of the stock market and it would crash. | May 28 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is not comparable to the rally of the 1990s at all. That was a bubble, of course, but it was a bubble that formed despite higher interest rates because people were investing in technology stocks that they didn't understand (anything with a .com after it had a huge IPO even with no product). | May 28 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | This rally is the "lack of better options" one. The "everything bubble". | May 28 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is horribly horribly overvalued right now considering what their prospects are. | May 28 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | In a sane environment, they would either have to do a major share buyback or a higher dividend because when your stock value stops rising rapidly, investors eventually want the money somehow. | May 28 20:20 |
| liberty_box | true | May 28 20:21 |
| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/RicoMuscatel/status/868985855628718082 | May 28 20:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RicoMuscatel: @MCopeland1981 @schestowitz @JulianAssange Oh, please, are you really that gullible? | May 28 20:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I've been really meaning to go Linux full time on this machine since November of last year. I installed the "Linux" BIOS and then kept it in RAID mode. Dabbling with Linux from a live environment, trying to get a feel for what works and what doesn't. | May 28 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake mobile was such a major shake-up that many things in Linux just didn't work last year, or they worked and your laptop wouldn't go into low power mode, etc. | May 28 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Linux 4.10 kernel is finally basically good enough to use, albeit I'll have to tinker to get some rough edges taken care of (powertop tuning, display scale problems, etc.). | May 28 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | The system spends most of its idle time in the deepest power saving mode with all of the tunables set, so that's encouraging. | May 28 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett tested Linux 4.5 last year and estimated that under Windows it would idle at around 4 watts, and under Linux it would idle at around 8-9. With kernel 4.10 and some tuning, I'd be shocked if there was a major difference between Windows and Linux on battery life. | May 28 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | I brought all of this up last year when Garrett was telling me that even if I got Lenovo to allow Linux installs it was no use because power policy sucked back then (about 6 months ago). | May 28 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | I came back with "If we don't get them to allow Linux installs then nobody will ever be able to use Linux regardless of if and when the power management is good.". | May 28 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | My god that guy is short-sighted. | May 28 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | And it got them to change their tune about the Yoga 910 as well, and ship it with AHCI support out of the box. That one went from crap power management on Linux to good about 4 months after it was released. | May 28 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Toughing it out with Windows 10 for 4-6 months is better than being stuck with it for five years, or more. | May 28 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | What happens if you can only run Windows and they put more ads and spam in it or start disabling features and making you pay to subscribe to everything but the "core system". We're getting there. | May 28 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | The "Surface S" runs a new crippled Windos SKU that won't run anything from outside the store -or- the Subsystem for Linux apps unless you pay $50, which is about what OEMs were paying for the license all along. | May 28 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be interested in whether these things can run Linux. | May 28 20:32 |
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| cubexyz | my conscience is clear, no M$ stocks | May 28 20:47 |
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| cubexyz | xdpr is just a bash script | May 28 21:22 |
| cubexyz | it calls xwd and xpr | May 28 21:22 |
| oiaohm | I thought that was a standard posix sh ie no bash extras. | May 28 21:24 |
| cubexyz | right, right | May 28 21:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: because if it had become bash at some point that would have been a interesting goof up. | May 28 21:27 |
| cubexyz | bash was first released in 1989 but xpdr is older | May 28 21:28 |
| cubexyz | so far I haven't managed to get it to print :-/ | May 28 21:28 |
| cubexyz | typo again... xdpr | May 28 21:29 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I can just pipe xwd output to lp | May 28 21:30 |
| cubexyz | ok, I want the black and white reversed or I'm using too much toner | May 28 21:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from memory no as lp is text or postscript | May 28 21:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and newer versions support pdf as well. | May 28 21:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, yeah but xpr does the conversion to postscript | May 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | lp -d HP | May 28 21:34 |
| cubexyz | that works, but I get an error.. stdin in empty | May 28 21:35 |
| cubexyz | weird | May 28 21:35 |
| cubexyz | I'm doing something not quite right | May 28 21:36 |
| cubexyz | stdin is empty | May 28 21:36 |
| cubexyz | doh, I guess I don't pipe it at all :) | May 28 21:41 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | May 28 21:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, now I have some extra scrap paper :-P | May 28 21:42 |
| cubexyz | if anyone wants to see the source: | May 28 21:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xpr-1.0.1.tar.bz2 | May 28 21:45 |
| cubexyz | xpr has some nice command line settings for gamma correction and scaling | May 28 21:50 |
| cubexyz | I remember I used to do stuff like: cat test.txt > /dev/lp0 (output to parallel port) | May 28 22:05 |
| cubexyz | cat file.txt | lp | May 28 22:06 |
| cubexyz | that should also work | May 28 22:06 |
| cubexyz | of course "lp file.txt" works too | May 28 22:07 |
| cubexyz | early AIX on IBM RT had X10R3 | May 28 22:13 |
| oiaohm | More I hear of microsoft usage of git more nightmare in design windows source code sounds. | May 28 23:28 |
| cubexyz | you can look at NT 4.0 code | May 28 23:28 |
| oiaohm | 300GB git repo sounds like something over due for splitting. | May 28 23:28 |
| cubexyz | or maybe you have already | May 28 23:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you use to be able to get XP source under educational usage only. Yes this was highly stupid you were allowed to read the source but not build it. | May 28 23:29 |
| cubexyz | pffft | May 28 23:30 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Ok you could bulid to only to confirm that the source and XP matched . | May 28 23:30 |
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| oiaohm | So a reporductable build test | May 28 23:30 |
| oiaohm | I don't know if 7 and 10 has programs like that around I would suspect so. | May 28 23:31 |
| oiaohm | This is what lead to NSA and other collecting known back doors. | May 28 23:31 |
| cubexyz | Judge Kollar-Kotelly ordered M$ to disclose windows XP source I think | May 28 23:32 |
| cubexyz | and I noted you said "used to" | May 28 23:33 |
| oiaohm | https://m.thhttps://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review | May 28 23:34 |
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| oiaohm | https://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review/ | May 28 23:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.theregister.co.uk | Caldera case expert to review Windows XP source code • The Register | May 28 23:34 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it happened a few times. | May 28 23:35 |
| cubexyz | reall would you really want to sift through all that? | May 28 23:35 |
| cubexyz | really | May 28 23:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd rather just forget about it | May 28 23:36 |
| oiaohm | http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server/microsoft-grants-windows-source-code-access-mvps then you have this starting in 2003 | May 28 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Microsoft Grants Windows Source Code Access to MVPs | Windows Server content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/qxnp2 ] | May 28 23:36 | |
| oiaohm | so the idea that windows is closed source and people cannot be using automated tools against it to find faults who are not microsoft is bogus. | May 28 23:36 |
| cubexyz | Allchin ranks high on the list of Microsoft jerks | May 28 23:39 |
| cubexyz | "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger" | May 28 23:39 |
| cubexyz | oh and this is another gem: | May 28 23:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories,_Inc._v._Berkeley_Software_Design,_Inc. I am not sure I am unhappy about what happened to Novell | May 28 23:41 |
| cubexyz | "You should make sure it has problems in the future: | May 28 23:41 |
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| cubexyz | DR-DOS comment | May 28 23:41 |
| cubexyz | so remember Allchin was a jerk | May 28 23:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: do remember Novell has a long history of being jerks taking other people copyrighted works and stripping the credit. | May 28 23:41 |
| oiaohm | What happened to Dr-dos that was a jerk. | May 28 23:42 |
| cubexyz | ha, and DR-DOS used some utilities from FreeDOS | May 28 23:43 |
| cubexyz | but whatever, I'm never going to be a microsoft MVP | May 28 23:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: worse utilities from freedos under GPL license and they did not obey license and stripped out credit markings. | May 28 23:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and that back traces to being performed at Novell. | May 28 23:46 |
| cubexyz | I'm more of a Bell Labs + BSD fan really | May 28 23:47 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_%28company%29 and that leads to the SCO groups desperations. | May 28 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caldera (company) - Wikipedia | May 28 23:48 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes SCO suing Linux comes out of Novell | May 28 23:48 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix and all that... I never got anything but small scraps of source code | May 28 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Novell copyright thief who has caused lots of companies harm. | May 28 23:49 |
| cubexyz | the one everyone remembers fondly was Unix v7 | May 28 23:49 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft hating Novell is kind of a given. All companies who watched Novell history would not have wanting to be doing business with them as it was a great way to get burnt. | May 28 23:50 |
| cubexyz | most companies do evil things | May 28 23:50 |
| oiaohm | Selling products you don't own? Novell common play card. | May 28 23:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes most companies do evil things. Most don't go selling stuff they don't own. | May 28 23:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Novell is the second car salesman who regularly got caught selling cars they don't own of the software world. | May 28 23:53 |
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| cubexyz | oh btw... | May 29 00:03 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs recently allowed non-commercial study of the source code of Unix v8, v9 and v10 | May 29 00:04 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/old_unix_source_code_opened_for_study/ | May 29 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Samizdat no more: Old Unix source code opened for study • The Register | May 29 00:04 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: that opens up Pandora for claims of taint. I really hate non-commercial clauses. | May 29 00:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://monster6502.com/ I am sure I mentioned about this one to your before. | May 29 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-monster6502.com | MOnSter 6502 | May 29 00:08 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Windows 10 S is because OEMs don't want to pay for Windows licenses and Microsoft has to make it money some how. | May 29 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC | As long as you can still nuke Windows and install some other operating system, that's just fine. | May 29 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | At least the OEM won't pay Microsoft and then build the cost of the license into the computer. | May 29 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Something tells me it'll be Lenovo 2.0. They just find some way to prevent Linux from being installed and "oops". | May 29 00:10 |
| cubexyz | I have v8 running on emulated vax780 | May 29 00:11 |
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| cubexyz | no idea what v9 and v10 can run on | May 29 00:11 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, I do | May 29 00:12 |
| cubexyz | v9 can run on Sun-3 | May 29 00:13 |
| cubexyz | the old motorola 68020 cpu | May 29 00:14 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think monster 6502 was announced about a year ago | May 29 00:18 |
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| cubexyz | there's a newer version of the Lanam APL in there | May 29 00:41 |
| cubexyz | in Unix v10 | May 29 00:41 |
| cubexyz | looks like Unix v10 was VAX only | May 29 00:47 |
| cubexyz | Vax-11/750, Vax-11/780 and microvax II and III | May 29 00:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I'm going to be running v10 anytime soon :-/ | May 29 00:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/simh/simh | May 29 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - simh/simh: The Computer History Simulation Project | May 29 01:25 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's no disk image | May 29 01:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: simh has Vax-11/750 and Microvax II | May 29 01:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and I guess it missing the source to the boot loader and getting the build tools to work will be hell. | May 29 01:27 |
| cubexyz | I already have unix v8 running on simh, plus a bunch of other ones | May 29 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Vax-11/780 is in there as well. | May 29 01:28 |
| oiaohm | So the only one missing unless it under some other name is microvax III | May 29 01:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wonder if unix v8 can build unix v10 source. | May 29 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Very strange bug in Fedora. | May 29 01:44 |
| cubexyz | it's odd how v9 drifted unto Sun3 | May 29 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I posted to Facebook. | May 29 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I checked out a Fedora live image with the latest updates as of 5-23 and GNOME and Wayland seem to work well enough, except that my volume control buttons worked and then something happened and they did not work anymore. I tried rebooting, shutting down, etc. No dice. | May 29 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | They work in Windows. If I go to the GNOME Settings app and pick buttons to assign to volume up, down, and mute it detects them as I press the button, and they work as F1, F2, and F3 if I hold down the Fn key. | May 29 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I googled it. Seems to be a problem that happens now and then. The only answer is to run GNOME in an X11 session. Boo! That's not what I want! | May 29 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Wayland still seems rough around the edges. | May 29 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's odd that Fedora is including MP3 playback (public domain on that end now) but Ubuntu won't, but what Ubuntu *will* do is obviously violate the GPL with ZFS, which is under an incompatible license. | May 29 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Their lawyers apparently disagree. I'm not sure that I'd (a) trust that MINORITY legal opinion and (b) bait Oracle into suing me. | May 29 01:48 |
| cubexyz | some folks are running v9 on TME | May 29 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | They already managed to go judge shopping in the US until they found one that says that you can copyright an API. | May 29 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 01:49 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't OpenZFS be ok to use? | May 29 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | err | May 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | stupid up key | May 29 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The way I heard it is that Ubuntu is shipping Linux kernel code under the CDDL (the ZFS module) and claiming that it's alright because being a loadable module doesn't make you a derived work of the kernel. "The Nvidia defense" | May 29 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like Fedora is shipping Wayland out when it's clearly not ready to go. | May 29 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Like most of the F25 Known Issues involve Wayland. | May 29 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's this. | May 29 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=wayland&product=Wayland&resolution=--- | May 29 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bugzilla is pondering your search | May 29 01:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it _is_ Fedora. They're well known for shipping things before they are known to work properly and then the users are supposed to spend all their time filing bugs on it. | May 29 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Technology testbed more than an operating system. | May 29 01:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune https://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/869076552067231744 | May 29 03:19 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I agree wayland is still a work in progress. There is only so far you can get before starting more broad testing. | May 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, my volume keys only work if I'm holding down the Alt button on Fedora 25. Any ideas? | May 29 04:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really I don't know how that would be different thinking both wayland and X11 should be using libinput backend. | May 29 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems to work fine under X, but not under Wayland. | May 29 04:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: its a reportable bug. Most likely people testing it have not had keyboards with those keys. | May 29 04:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I would think your x.org would be using libinput? | May 29 04:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it is possilbe that you x11 is not using libinput https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput | May 29 04:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | libinput - ArchWiki | May 29 04:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869104674732777472 | May 29 04:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Returning to the Void https://t.co/lneZjuOEJz | May 29 04:15 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/olivia-doll-predatory-journals That not good | May 29 04:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869114171534721024 | May 29 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reasons to use the #GNOME3 desktop environment, cool #KDE | May 29 04:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tweaks, and #GNOME integration for #Qt based application | May 29 04:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Reasons to use the GNOME 3 desktop environment, cool KDE tweaks, and GNOME integration for Qt based application | Tux Machines | May 29 04:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/j3fCFAyDOc (tuxmachines.org) #kernel | May 29 05:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869121406872596481 | May 29 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora Leftovers: Memorial Weekend ISO, #LGBTQA | May 29 05:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Awareness Day and More https://t.co/3Dj6bMmdZV | May 29 05:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian Leftovers: Installer, CI, #Stretch, and #Devuan | May 29 05:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Patches, and #BritishAirways Grounded | May 29 05:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Peppermint 8 #Linux OS Released, It's Based on #Ubuntu | May 29 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 16.04.2 LTS with Linux 4.8 https://t.co/mazYixjxSB | May 29 05:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Devices, #Tizen, and #Android | May 29 05:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/polr/status/869127723809157121 | May 29 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux 4.12 RC3, #LinuxFoundation Project Updates | May 29 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @polr https://t.co/j3fCFAyDOc (tuxmachines.org) #kernel | May 29 05:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hyperledger | May 29 05:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 RC3, Linux Foundation Project Updates | Tux Machines | May 29 05:47 | |
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| liberty_box_ | > Hi, Roy, | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I was at a shop the other day and noticed they had about two dozen | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > notebooks. None were Chromebooks and all but four or five Apples were | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista 10. The interesting thing was that not a single one of the | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista10 machines had a M$ or Windoze label on it. | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I think I mentioned that before around a year or two ago. It's still | May 29 06:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > the case that both trademarks have become a liability. | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > For another example, look at the silver sponsors of this conference: | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2017/ | May 29 06:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ieee-security.org | IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy 2017 | May 29 06:59 | |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > Notice M$ is trying to shrink its visibility while attempting to | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > increase influence. | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | 2 days ago we went to 5 computer store s here. None had GNU/Linux or even CHromebooks. But that depends on the country. | May 29 06:59 |
| liberty_box_ | https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/869145237490470912 | May 29 06:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@debexpert: @schestowitz XD | May 29 06:59 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://gitlab.com/esr/open-adventure I guess you have seen this? | May 29 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eric S. Raymond / open-adventure · GitLab | May 29 07:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869164832141987842 | May 29 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/5/2017: Another #Linux RC, #Enlightenment 0.21.8 | May 29 08:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 08:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.12 RC3, Linux Foundation Project Updates | Tux Machines | May 29 08:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/kapper1224/status/869170831523434496 | May 29 09:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux 4.12 RC3, #LinuxFoundation Project Updates | May 29 09:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @kapper1224 https://t.co/j3fCFAyDOc (tuxmachines.org) #kernel | May 29 09:02 |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/dDVns.gif | May 29 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/debian_stretch_omits_secure_boot/ | May 29 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Secure Boot booted from Debian 9 'Stretch' • The Register | May 29 15:47 | |
| DaemonFC | So basically every computer made now will not boot to Debian without user intervention. | May 29 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what their plan is if Secure Boot can't be turned off at some point and they don't boot at all. | May 29 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | Not that I agree with what Ubuntu did either. | May 29 15:50 |
| MinceR | they'll buy windows, obviously | May 29 15:50 |
| MinceR | they swallowed systemd with joy | May 29 15:51 |
| MinceR | they swallowed Restricted Boot with joy | May 29 15:51 |
| MinceR | they'll swallow windows with joy | May 29 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | They enforce Secure Boot down to the kernel level, so you can't addd your own unsigned modules unless you add a Machine Owner's Key to shim. | May 29 15:51 |
| MinceR | yet they somehow expect me to pay for that appliance and to buy electricity and internet access for it | May 29 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | But the problem with that is that malware that manages to elevate its privileges could just add its own signing key to shim and then load a malicious kernel module. | May 29 15:52 |
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| DaemonFC | So, you might as well only enforce secure boot until you get to grub. | May 29 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | From a security viewpoint. | May 29 15:53 |
| MinceR | you might as well never enforce secure boot | May 29 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It gets worse. | May 29 15:53 |
| MinceR | it always does | May 29 15:53 |
| MinceR | it's the specialty of our species | May 29 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you turn off Secure Boot, Ubuntu and Fedora COMPLAIN on boot that they are booting in insecure mode. | May 29 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wart. It leaves a line in your system log. That's about all. | May 29 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | I can't see any reason why a user would want to leave it on and allow Microsoft to decide whether to keep signing shim or not. | May 29 15:54 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows enforces Secure Boot now. It won't start up at all without it unless you already had Secure Boot off when you installed a version of Windows 10 that didn't enforce that. | May 29 15:55 |
| MinceR | well, of course | May 29 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | It just prints to the screen a thing that tells you to go into your BIOS and turn Secure Boot back on. | May 29 15:56 |
| MinceR | canonical and red hat serve m$ now | May 29 15:56 |
| MinceR | they're licking asatya nadella's boots | May 29 15:56 |
| MinceR | i can't see any reason why a user would want to run ubuntu or fedora | May 29 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty soon, the only way to run either of them will be as apps from the Windows Store. | May 29 15:57 |
| MinceR | or debian8, for that matter | May 29 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Then they'll be kicked out of there too. | May 29 15:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 29 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I see, a few years down the road..... | May 29 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | "We're discontinuing support for the Windows Subsystem for Linux, but don't worry. Here are some Visual Studio plug-ins to convert your apps to the Universal Windows Platform. | May 29 15:59 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 15:59 |
| MinceR | and for the super low price of $99/year, you'll even get to run the resulting binaries! | May 29 16:00 |
| MinceR | (may be revoked at any time) | May 29 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | They've been inching closer to that. | May 29 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S is a trial balloon to see if they can get people to accept that. | May 29 16:00 |
| MinceR | as are iphones | May 29 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It may reach a point where I *have* to buy a Macbook. | May 29 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I know, I know. Too expensive....Barf... Why? | May 29 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | You go to a Linux dev conference these days and upwards of 70% are using Macbooks. | May 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | i suspect crApple will lock crapbooks down in lockstep with m$ | May 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | well yeah, the industry is full of amateurs who have no clue what they're doing | May 29 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | It's reached the point where it's all the people who are building Linux are really doing a great job to support, because they use it themselves. | May 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | it shows everywhere | May 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | most of our software is garbage and most of our hardware is garbage | May 29 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then you report a problem with your PC laptop and none of them care. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Or they attack you. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Or they make excuses for Microsoft and Intel. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 16:03 |
| MinceR | we'll have to start building our own cpus | May 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be getting there. | May 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well start setting back some money and getting ready to massively overpay for a System76? | May 29 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then it's their job to make sure Ubuntu works. I might not stick to Ubuntu, but if Ubuntu works, most any distro should. | May 29 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | Or one of those Dell XPS laptops. Might go that route next time. | May 29 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting back to the bad old days when you have to restrict yourself to known good configurations or it's unlikely to run Linux at all, and that's due to UEFI, bad OEMs like Lenovo, etc. | May 29 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | And there they were telling us that UEFI wasn't an assault on Linux, and it's been nothing but that. | May 29 16:06 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make sure lendows works but no unixes do | May 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | It was almost impossible to find a PC with a legacy BIOS that wouldn't run Linux. | May 29 16:06 |
| MinceR | and we get to start the fight over for laptops that can run unix | May 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe there were bugs, but you add some hardware quirks and it's good again. | May 29 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if those Surface laptops with Windows 10 S will be restricted to Windows. | May 29 16:07 |
| MinceR | probably | May 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | it's m$, after all | May 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying 80/20 on that. On one hand, up until now MSFT has been pretty liberal on what you can run on your Surface and most of the problems were just that there was a new piece of hardware. Like you needed a touchpad driver or something. | May 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | and they'll probably be garbage quality like before | May 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | On the other, it's subsidized hardware now, and they really really want you to py for the Windows upgrade that lets you use it as a general purpose computer again. | May 29 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wait and see approach. | May 29 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm done buying hardware and then fighting shitty OEMs later. | May 29 16:09 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just let someone else step in it and see what a google search turns out. | May 29 16:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/869285201138122752 | May 29 16:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/5/2017: Another #Linux RC, #Enlightenment 0.21.8 | May 29 16:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @Lenin Journalists receive leaks all the time....' | May 29 16:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 16:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/#bottom-comments | May 29 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qxq03 ] | May 29 16:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why do I get the impression that Wayland is turning into LightDM redux? | May 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | "It's really really light and thin.....Oh, and now every compositor that wants to talk with it has to implement all these things that X11 already took care of." | May 29 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems more like shifting development hassle away from the Wayland devs and to everyone who wants to make a window manager. | May 29 16:30 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | It also means that without standard core features provided by Wayland, that everyone is going to implement those features with their own code, and you'll get crazy bugs that only crop up when you use a certain window manager, which would have been easier to track down and kill with X. | May 29 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | Wayland is more like a thin wrapper thatt handles "the last mile", but it shifts complexity out to everyone else and creates a lot of work there. | May 29 16:31 |
| MinceR | don't worry, gnome will get it all done, all wrong, and they'll try all the tricks in m$'s book to force it on you | May 29 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | So, the bigger projects like GNOME and KDE will have native Wayland support, but the smaller ones will tell you to load Wayland and talk between Wayland and their window manager with XWayland. | May 29 16:32 |
| MinceR | s/done/half done/ | May 29 16:32 |
| MinceR | and the bigger projects will also depend on systemd :> | May 29 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | And even though XWayland was supposed to be "at least as fast" as using X directly now, and "maybe faster" and "certainly with less tearing", people are finding out that (a) They lose performance with Wayland directly and they lose more performance with XWayland talking to Wayland, (b) Wine using XWayland makes video games unplayable and doesn't let you turn off vsync, (c) either way, they have to log out and use a "GNOME on X" session. | May 29 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and Wayland broke some of my hotkeys for some reason and nobody is sure why. | May 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | so it's far from stable -- which means it's the perfect time to force it on all users! | May 29 16:35 |
| MinceR | right, red hat supporters? :> | May 29 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Bonus: the GNOME Wayland session is horribly unstable on Fedora 26. Crashes every few minutes. Caused four delays already. | May 29 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, By the time they get it working well enough that a stable operating system might be interested in using it, it'll be about 6 years since the first code commit and like two distributions will be using it by default, both with fallbacks. | May 29 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and you'll only be able to use it with GNOME because KDE on Wayland is roughly where GNOME was last year. | May 29 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | So much for their "thin wrapper". | May 29 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland is turning out to be as much of a disaster as the early days of Pulseaudio. | May 29 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | It ust doesn't handle the use cases that they said it would, so nobody wants to ship it except Fedora, which ships broken stuff all the time. | May 29 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.24 | May 29 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/GNOME3.24 - FedoraProject | May 29 16:43 | |
| DaemonFC | one of the new features is "browse as root" in the file manager | May 29 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty sure that Konquerer and Nautilus could do that 20 years ago. | May 29 16:44 |
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| MinceR | :> | May 29 16:50 |
| MinceR | but won't that option confuse users? | May 29 16:50 |
| MinceR | like the print dialog options did? | May 29 16:50 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/logical-fallacies | May 29 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Logical Fallacies | May 29 16:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, According to the interview about why X waas bad, it came up that it used to have its own print server. | May 29 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | It was removed after someone added printing support to glxgears, | May 29 17:07 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 17:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives https://t.co/voMoqeO0uN | May 29 17:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Wayland is already in need of extensions to provide functionality that X11 offered by design out of the box. A “clean, fresh start, designed with the requirements of the current decade in mind” that needs extensions before it even gets off the launching pad is hardly what I would call a good design." | May 29 17:22 |
| MinceR | well, modularity would be nice | May 29 17:23 |
| MinceR | but putting one half of the window manager in the display server and the other in the gui toolkit is not modularity | May 29 17:24 |
| MinceR | it's just bad design | May 29 17:24 |
| MinceR | but at least that could be fixed without too much fuss | May 29 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | I get that X11 is becoming a pain though. One of the developers said there's only 3 people who really understand xinput and he wishes he wasn't one of them. | May 29 17:26 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1 | May 29 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland - Phoronix | May 29 17:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I) We've spent the last 10 years or so “fixing” the X server by wrapping it in more and more extensions and plugins. Problem with that though is...X only has minimal versioning support in its extension system. | May 29 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | A) Versioning is handled per client, not per bind. So if your app supports one version of a given extension but your toolkit supports another, you can't predict which version of that extension you will get. | May 29 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | B) Theoretical example: Rekonq supports Xinput 2.2. Kdelibs support Xinput 2.0, Flash plugin only supports Core X11...all of those things are gonna fight over what version of Input “Rekonq” supports and in the end you're gonna get one version to support everything...may not be the version that EVERYTHING supports though. | May 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | FIGHT! | May 29 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | FINISH HIM! | May 29 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | FLAWLESS VICTORY! | May 29 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I assume that was probably what caused Rekonq to crash so much when I was trying to use it with Flash. | May 29 17:29 |
| MinceR | could be | May 29 17:29 |
| MinceR | could also be flash being garbage | May 29 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | There's that. | May 29 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | For a long time, I had to use that nspluginwrapper thing on it to bridge the 32-bit Flash plugin to 64-bit Firefox. | May 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | That was a nightmare. | May 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | And it tried to wrap every npapi plugin it could find too, including the ones that it wasn't compatible with. | May 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I used to have to do all kinds of horrible things to make Linux work, like ndiswrapper. | May 29 17:31 |
| MinceR | i didn't | May 29 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | I had a wifi chipset that only had a Windows XP driver. | May 29 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | So to use it, I had to install ndiswrapper and use the Windows XP driver on Linux. | May 29 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | It was surprisingly stable considering... | May 29 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of annoying to try to set up a new Linux install with no wifi driver though. | May 29 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | It would be impossible on this laptop without an ethernet dongle. | May 29 17:33 |
| MinceR | i never had such garbage chipsets | May 29 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the original Fedora 25 installer shipped before the kernel had a wifi driver. | May 29 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | So if you load the original installer disk, you won't have a driver and have no way to get on the internet. | May 29 17:34 |
| MinceR | what's worse, you'll end up with fedora | May 29 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | The distributions should probably go grab all of the new wifi chipset drivers from the latest kernel and include them. | May 29 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's actually why the staging tree is built by default in most distributions. | May 29 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually better to have a staging tree driver than none at all. | May 29 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Everything that ends up in Fedora ends up everywhere else later. | May 29 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | And if it doesn't, they'll make sure that things break in the distributions that refuse it. | May 29 17:37 |
| MinceR | those things are to be avoided, then | May 29 17:37 |
| MinceR | for they are cancer. | May 29 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Gobbling up the whole world and forcing it to depend on systemd, for example. | May 29 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile takeover. | May 29 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | They even end up fforcing their software into Ubuntu, sooner or later. | May 29 17:38 |
| MinceR | not difficult | May 29 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Everything that Ubuntu was working on is now officially dead. | May 29 17:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately except for ubuntu | May 29 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I tried saying that none of it would be sustainable a few years back when I filed a bunch of bugs against libindicators. | May 29 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | The track record of distributions going it alone with their own software is pretty bad. | May 29 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it's something small, like a file manager. | May 29 17:40 |
| MinceR | except for ratcrap, apparently | May 29 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | ratcrap? | May 29 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, Flatpak? | May 29 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | That's an interesting project, I think. | May 29 17:40 |
| MinceR | way too much cancer to list | May 29 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak works around dependency hell and lets you simply install software. | May 29 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | And the software keeps working even if you change distributions or upgrade or whatever. | May 29 17:41 |
| MinceR | provided that you have systemd | May 29 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | There's been previous attempts at doing this. | May 29 17:42 |
| MinceR | at which point the whole thing is pointless | May 29 17:42 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to use the implementation of said software that is built into systemd | May 29 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Well, every major distribution has systemd at this point. | May 29 17:42 |
| MinceR | or into the kernel | May 29 17:42 |
| MinceR | yes, every lendows distribution has it | May 29 17:42 |
| MinceR | and none of them matter | May 29 17:42 |
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| MinceR | if i wanted to run a huge unreliable unsecire black box full of back doors, i'd just run winblows | May 29 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Devuan will eventualyl cease to exist. | May 29 17:43 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 29 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | There will be a point where they are maintaining too many forks and give up. | May 29 17:43 |
| MinceR | depends on how many unix users remain | May 29 17:43 |
| MinceR | and if there aren't enough to keep gnu/linux alive, then we'll keep some bsd alive | May 29 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | That's the whole point of gobbling up hundreds of pieces of software and making the upstream only work with systemd. | May 29 17:44 |
| MinceR | and that's what didn't work with windows | May 29 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think that even the BSDs will give up sooner or later. | May 29 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's more likely that systemd just ends up being ported to them. | May 29 17:44 |
| MinceR | then i'll run outdated unix | May 29 17:45 |
| MinceR | there's a reason i stopped using windows as much as i could | May 29 17:45 |
| MinceR | giving the same atrocious design a different name won't change that | May 29 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think they're in better shape to fight this though, because they maintain a lot of their own stuff to avoid the GPL. | May 29 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe some Linux distributions start using the BSD stuff. | May 29 17:46 |
| MinceR | and before these retards came over from winblows and brought their moronic culture with them, gnu/linux users understood that | May 29 17:46 |
| MinceR | and i doubt those users ceased to exist | May 29 17:46 |
| MinceR | maybe they don't realize how broken lendows is yet, but eventually they will | May 29 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wouldn't take that for granted. | May 29 17:47 |
| MinceR | switching OSes once didn't make the desire to use a fundamentally unfucked system go away | May 29 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | The Steam User Survey lines up against browser stats shows that 90% (if not more) Linux users are heavily concentrated between Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSuSE. | May 29 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | But mostly Ubuntu. | May 29 17:48 |
| MinceR | > u know the worst part about being a pedophile? fitting in. | May 29 17:48 |
| MinceR | that 90% is probably the clueless part | May 29 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu became the de facto Linux distribution because it provided a coherent setup at a time when there really wasn't one. | May 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | It took years for Debian to even have a Live installer disc, and it still won't boot unless you can turn Secure Boot off. | May 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | The more things you have to stop and explain to the user, the more likely they are to just use Windows. | May 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora and Debian refuse to play files and won't tell you what you need to make them work. | May 29 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Average user says: "Well this sucks." and goes away. | May 29 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Now, Richard Stallman says that "advertising non-free software is bad", but really most of what you need these days isn't non-free, it's just patented in some countries. | May 29 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | Those patents aren't going to expire for decades, and when they do, there will be something else, if there isn't already. | May 29 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | For example, h.264, AAC, h.265. | May 29 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | There are free implementations, but US patents stop them from being easy to distribute. | May 29 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | That's one reason why I was glad that Trump stopped the TPP. Hopefully, whatever "free trade" deal the other members sign doesn't recognize the US "IP" laws TPP was designed to push on them. | May 29 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Now that the US isn't involved, there's no reason to entertain that. | May 29 17:53 |
| MinceR | ubuntu is garbage, fedora is garbage and as of version 8, debian is garbage too | May 29 17:54 |
| MinceR | windows always was garbage, people got tired of it | May 29 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm probably going to install Kubuntu, but I haven't made up my mind yet. | May 29 17:55 |
| MinceR | people will get tired of their computer failing to boot and/or shut down | May 29 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I like staying close to Ubuntu for the compatibility. | May 29 17:55 |
| MinceR | i like staying close to unix for the sanity | May 29 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if Ubuntu GNOME will get an upgrade file that turns it into Ubuntu proper in the next version. | May 29 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3139812/laptop-computers/after-protest-lenovo-brings-linux-compatibility-to-yoga-900-and-900s.html | May 29 17:57 |
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| DaemonFC | This is a Linux-only BIOS, meaning it should be used only by those who want to load the OS. If you want to continue with Windows, do not load the firmware. “This BIOS is not intended to be used on machines running Windows operating systems,” Lenovo said. | May 29 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 29 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | It can be. About the only difference is it unhides ACHI in Storage Controller Mode. | May 29 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo made it difficult to install though. You have to enable BIOS backflash first, because otherwise it tells you it's an older BIOS and won't install it. | May 29 17:58 |
| MinceR | yeah, but they still want to scare users away from it | May 29 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | By implying it'll blow up your computer if you install it. | May 29 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'll probably just use Kubuntu. Other than some minor nits, like scaling issues, it seems to work okay. | May 29 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | HiDPI displays in Linux still seem to be problematic. | May 29 18:08 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Now I laugh whenever I think of Fedora because of that stupid song. | May 29 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hun. | May 29 18:11 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE | May 29 18:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Looks like with Kubuntu, my CPU package never gets out of pc2. At least in the live environment. | May 29 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora gets to pc8. Same major kernel versions. | May 29 19:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RaspberryPi foundation merges with #CoderDojo Foundation | May 29 19:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TtmYwRtoG7 (tuxmachines.org) #raspi #linux | May 29 19:23 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, you have to be more accurate... | May 29 19:34 |
| cubexyz | what you really mean is Fedora is garbage _now_ | May 29 19:35 |
| cubexyz | FC1 was pretty good | May 29 19:35 |
| cubexyz | also redhat 8 and redhat 9 were decent | May 29 19:36 |
| oiaohm | FC4-FC5 is when fedora started turning into a heavy test bed. | May 29 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is hit or miss. | May 29 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | They finally got the distribution upgrade thing to work right from what I've read. | May 29 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | That only took forever. | May 29 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, some people only had problems because of AtRPMs or something, which clobbers system files and tends to create conflicts when you dist-upgrade | May 29 19:41 |
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| cubexyz | I may load up whatever fb I need for the slack box | May 29 19:42 |
| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-backspace and then stuck in an unresponsive console :-/ | May 29 19:43 |
| cubexyz | and I see that's been a problem for slack for a while now | May 29 19:44 |
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| cubexyz | I wonder if it's just "modprobe intelfb" | May 29 19:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe I'll just telinit 3 intead | May 29 19:57 |
| cubexyz | I used to just "init 3" | May 29 19:59 |
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| cubexyz | ok, fbset --info says "inteldrmfb" | May 29 20:03 |
| cubexyz | so maybe that's not even a LKM | May 29 20:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 28-Way #NVIDIA #GeForce GPU Comparison On #Ubuntu : From | May 29 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 https://t.co/IMcJqFQf2n | May 29 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #canonical #gnu #linux #phoronix | May 29 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 28-Way NVIDIA GeForce GPU Comparison On Ubuntu: From GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 | Tux Machines | May 29 20:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869425073014185984 | May 30 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in #Techrights https://t.co/1ooyKFLWFG | May 30 01:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 01:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu / #Debian: #Peppermint 8, #BlackLab Enterprise | May 30 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 11, #UbuntuPhone, and Debian/ #TeXLive 2017 | May 30 02:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NlJmqe33aE (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 30 02:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu/Debian: Peppermint 8, Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11, Ubuntu Phone, and Debian/TeX Live 2017 | Tux Machines | May 30 02:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (500MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (13.5 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 69.5 GB / 1.0 TB (941.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Iris Graphics 540 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 13m 12s | May 30 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No more Windows 10 on this computer. | May 30 02:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Not #backtowork until next week. Looking forward to | May 30 04:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passing most/all #gnu #linux stuff to @tuxmachines | May 30 04:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (better partitioning) #backtowork | May 30 04:05 |
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| MinceR | cubexyz: not sure about that, rpm and whatever they put on top of it probably always sucked | May 30 14:34 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pW5MGiL.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/pW5MGiL ) | May 30 14:36 |
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| MinceR | -1 | May 30 15:04 |
| MinceR | damn lag | May 30 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | 850 year old spa in Japan | May 30 16:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-850 year old spa in Japan - GIF on Imgur | May 30 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869656649731940353 | May 30 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen Devices, #Applications, and #Games | May 30 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gmX9f4fRNn (tuxmachines.org) #samsung #korea | May 30 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #freesw #tizenOS | May 30 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tizen Devices, Applications, and Games | Tux Machines | May 30 16:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ogijKoUeLa | May 30 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #debian | May 30 16:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Graphics News https://t.co/0H0DfFGIVM (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux #freesw | May 30 16:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 30 16:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/WKtKWiCpxn (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 16:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix #howto | May 30 16:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour Unlike the Tory plan,...' | May 30 16:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/869659306182021122 | May 30 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Graphics News https://t.co/0H0DfFGIVM (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 17:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux #freesw | May 30 17:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869661053675753472 | May 30 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d | May 30 17:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | May 30 17:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 30 17:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/146Uguq.jpg | May 30 17:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 30 17:09 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @aubergineFTW @vegantittie @RomPomPopperty @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour https://t.co/3kHleIFlSg | May 30 17:09 | |
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| MinceR | >VII) Multi-monitors is a client problem. Same with multiple graphics cards (Optimus). Wayland only wants buffers filled with pixel and to be told where to display them. It doesn't care how they got there. | May 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | i wonder how that's supposed to work | May 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | >X) As a security precaution...your screensaver and locker are apart of the compositor. This has an added benefit because your compositor (Eg: kwin) DOES understand your media keys, so even while your screen is locked you can still mute your media. | May 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | bloat | May 30 17:19 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbltowcHPX0 | May 30 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869672661319770112 | May 30 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 17:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as Cobol app moves to x86 Linux | Tux Machines | May 30 17:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869672794002292737 | May 30 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 18:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 18:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#WineStaging 2.9 https://t.co/w4Yz3iCz4T #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix...' | May 30 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.9 | Tux Machines | May 30 18:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/869683919838363649 | May 30 18:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup (tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix | May 30 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #reactos | May 30 18:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz @JulianAssange "video recording with | May 30 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | insubordination to the legal demands of the police, and | May 30 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mass disorder." https://t.co/4K9HunhG1v (twitter.com) | May 30 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-advox.globalvoices.org | Russian Math Instructor Faces Criminal Charges for Online Posts He Says He Didn’t Write - Global Voices Advocacy | May 30 19:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869704264913887232 | May 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 30 19:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 30 19:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GTK and GNOME News | Tux Machines | May 30 19:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869704435944927236 | May 30 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 30 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 30 20:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869720446819647488 | May 30 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 30 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 30 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Software: Image Editing, OpenShot, FreeTuxTV, Nageru, and Scribus | Tux Machines | May 30 21:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/demuxer/status/869744326552821760 | May 30 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 30 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @demuxer and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 30 23:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/devgirlzero/status/869754600143937540 | May 30 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @devgirlzero x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 23:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 23:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as Cobol app moves to x86 Linux | Tux Machines | May 30 23:55 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/12/genius-among-us-sad-story-william-j-sidis/ | May 30 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.todayifoundout.com | A Genius Among Us: The Sad Story of William J. Sidis [ http://ur1.ca/qxuzo ] | May 30 23:56 | |
| cubexyz | practically a greek tragedy :-( | May 30 23:58 |
| cubexyz | I knew it ended badly but I never realized how bad | May 30 23:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/869765335305662465 | May 31 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 00:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 00:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Software: Image Editing, OpenShot, FreeTuxTV, Nageru, and Scribus | Tux Machines | May 31 00:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869800208179240960 | May 31 02:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 02:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 02:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 2018 Toyota Camry packs an open-source Linux-based infotainment system | Tux Machines | May 31 02:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869800361317384192 | May 31 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 02:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based...' | May 31 03:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @2green https://twitter.com/2green/status/869812538233507840 | May 31 03:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Linux Stuff Daily! https://t.co/clvOgTzbPq | May 31 03:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @linuxsound @tuxmachines @katun79 | May 31 03:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #kernel | May 31 03:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814335031222272 | May 31 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux #gaming | May 31 03:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 03:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814472042463232 | May 31 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/hyWydCjIk6 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 03:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | May 31 03:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 31 03:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814571313360898 | May 31 03:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ZiWoWlJ57C | May 31 03:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 31 03:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814765622657024 | May 31 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, | May 31 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GitHub, #ScyllaDB, #Gollvm and More | May 31 03:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vXhKEC4mtx (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 03:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Development: Red Hat on Java, Coding Camp, Bitnami, GitHub, ScyllaDB, Gollvm and More | Tux Machines | May 31 03:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814922489679872 | May 31 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 03:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 31 03:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 31 03:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869815159836954624 | May 31 03:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers: #Nokia, #Asus, #YouTube, and | May 31 03:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AndroidPay https://t.co/GxyOpdDvFb (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 03:19 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | May 31 03:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/hyWydCjIk6 #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | May 31 03:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/ZiWoWlJ57C' | May 31 03:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers: Nokia, Asus, YouTube, and Android Pay | Tux Machines | May 31 03:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 03:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, #GitHub,...' | May 31 03:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ #gnu #linux' | May 31 03:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers: #Nokia, #Asus, #YouTube, and #AndroidPay https://t.co/GxyOpdDvFb' | May 31 03:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/869822526364426240 | May 31 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 04:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 31 04:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869921911416922112 | May 31 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/sf4X0Ejk3q | May 31 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 10:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #youtube #waze #korea | May 31 10:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869923719119949824 | May 31 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/sf4X0Ejk3q | May 31 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #youtube #waze #korea | May 31 10:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts | May 31 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gPZa4W4DNX (tuxmachines.org) #gplv3 #europe | May 31 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #eu #licensing #freesw | May 31 12:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts...' | May 31 13:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870000506231439360 | May 31 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 15:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 15:36 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ITCrowdsource #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 15:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 16:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 16:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @JulianAssange We came, we saw, he died. | May 31 16:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #wengerout I mean, #toriesOut https://t.co/1XkQ6AzVlb...' | May 31 16:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I've hit two weird bugs in Ubuntu so far. | May 31 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't remember my backlight preferences and to connect to my Bluetooth soundbar I have to do this every boot. | May 31 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://askubuntu.com/questions/824404/bluetooth-speaker-connected-but-not-listed-in-sound-output | May 31 16:45 |
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| MinceR | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/great-barrier-reef-dying-coral-bleaching-global-warming-australia-climate-change-a7761351.html | May 31 17:05 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Yze4nll.gifv | May 31 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870040937350574080 | May 31 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 18:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 18:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870041529473130496 | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870045224633905152 | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 18:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 18:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870045372067880960 | May 31 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 18:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt ...' | May 31 18:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870049829157609472 | May 31 18:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu | May 31 18:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel | May 31 18:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 18:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel' | May 31 18:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870051878385590272 | May 31 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | May 31 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | May 31 18:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 18:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870052152915378176 | May 31 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | May 31 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | May 31 19:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 19:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870054465423810560 | May 31 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil | May 31 19:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 19:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil' | May 31 19:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870055044787261440 | May 31 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian 8.8, | May 31 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.04, #CentOS 7, #ClearLinux | May 31 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qgNFYU5Hbi (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu | May 31 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | May 31 19:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 19:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian...' | May 31 19:14 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KU5H4L retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian...' | May 31 19:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870057274256916480 | May 31 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | May 31 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | May 31 19:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | May 31 19:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870057350077468672 | May 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | May 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | May 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | May 31 19:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 19:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a lot more...' | May 31 19:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a...' | May 31 20:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do immediately; the...' | May 31 20:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do...' | May 31 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076685537861632 | May 31 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud | May 31 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference 2017, #RISCV Workshop https://t.co/g2E5GQwczu | May 31 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #germany #suse | May 31 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076802558853120 | May 31 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl | May 31 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #linux | May 31 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076940757024768 | May 31 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More | May 31 20:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4LnU6eQhxr (tuxmachines.org) #freesw | May 31 20:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077044654096384 | May 31 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu #howto | May 31 20:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077236996591616 | May 31 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw | May 31 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | May 31 20:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud Conference...' | May 31 20:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl #linux' | May 31 20:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More ...' | May 31 20:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO #unix #linux #gnu #howto' | May 31 20:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 31 20:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077737544728576 | May 31 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | May 31 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077834663927809 | May 31 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu | May 31 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 31 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077969246543872 | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hackathon https://t.co/kqwfyR2X9F (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #google #freesw | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078124725227521 | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX (tuxmachines.org) #freesw #db | May 31 20:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078216010055680 | May 31 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk | May 31 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | May 31 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX #freesw...' | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 31 20:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jayd_1992 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | May 31 20:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 31 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | May 31 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | May 31 20:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 31 20:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/870079237868453890 | May 31 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #unix #linux #gnu #howto | May 31 20:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870079473055432704 | May 31 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ks 1/6/2017: #KDE #Plasma 5.10, #Qt 5.9 Released | May 31 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5L1YVEsdAQ (techrights.org) … #techrights | May 31 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870102579111276544 | May 31 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ks 1/6/2017: #KDE #Plasma 5.10, #Qt 5.9 Released | May 31 23:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/5L1YVEsdAQ (techrights.org) … #techrights | May 31 23:00 |
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| cubexyz | neo geo games on gog | May 31 23:34 |
| cubexyz | of course mame has that pretty well covered | May 31 23:34 |
| cubexyz | gog seems to be the go to place for retro gaming | May 31 23:35 |
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| cubexyz | ah, a new term for gates: | May 31 23:57 |
| cubexyz | Obscurantist | May 31 23:57 |
| cubexyz | i.e. the practise of deliberately preventing the facts becoming known | May 31 23:57 |
| cubexyz | that makes Stallman the anti-obscurantist | May 31 23:58 |
| cubexyz | ah, and I'm not the first person to make that comment | May 31 23:59 |
| cubexyz | Gates: "what emails are you talking about?" | Jun 01 00:00 |
| cubexyz | another big one... AMI | Jun 01 00:01 |
| cubexyz | don't forget it | Jun 01 00:01 |
| cubexyz | the holy sacred bios source code must never be revealed | Jun 01 00:02 |
| cubexyz | Dell isn't any better | Jun 01 00:04 |
| cubexyz | oh, I nagged them for the BIOS source but to no avail | Jun 01 00:04 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 01 02:53 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 01 02:54 |
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| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28270 | Jun 01 05:10 |
| liberty_box | " Some of those apparently referenced ETs. I feel like I'm missing part of the story when I read them." | Jun 01 05:10 |
| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28271 | Jun 01 05:10 |
| liberty_box | "yes yes I know. Ufo buff." | Jun 01 05:10 |
| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1781 | Jun 01 05:17 |
| liberty_box | " Air travel outside the US can still be reasonably nice. I fly a lot, and as long as you choose the right airline it's very nice." | Jun 01 05:17 |
| liberty_box | The airports can be part of the problem and there is rarely any choice for some routes (de facto monopoly, no competition, treat people like dirt) | Jun 01 05:18 |
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| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/johnbarbirolli/status/870209754248892416 | Jun 01 05:26 |
| liberty_box | Negros | Jun 01 05:26 |
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| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1787 | Jun 01 05:28 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jun 01 05:33 |
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| cubexyz | ok, that was painful | Jun 01 11:57 |
| cubexyz | X11R5... nothing compiles | Jun 01 11:57 |
| cubexyz | X11R6... everything compiles | Jun 01 11:57 |
| cubexyz | quite a gap between those two versions... 3 years | Jun 01 12:00 |
| cubexyz | the motifshell is interesting | Jun 01 12:44 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ylk5l | Jun 01 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Opogator - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 13:49 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/mRjgM | Jun 01 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Do the Dump de Dump - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 14:03 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/31/donald-trump-mexico-toilet-paper-antonio-battaglia | Jun 01 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | A cheeky idea: Mexican businessman rolls out 'Trump' toilet paper | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/qy1q1 ] | Jun 01 14:55 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/h7UKxCf.jpg | Jun 01 15:31 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Cye0y | Jun 01 15:44 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/2fxbayO.jpg | Jun 01 16:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ai20r | Jun 01 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bought some shoes from a drug dealer today. I don't know what she laced them with but I've been tripping all day. - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 16:33 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/gedankendouche | Jun 01 16:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Gedankendouche | Jun 01 16:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | xfree86: Remove pre-2.6 Linux ppc support | Jun 01 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 01 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | That stayed in the X server until October 2014? :P | Jun 01 17:07 |
| MinceR | 2014? that's ancient history | Jun 01 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So was Linux 2.4 at that time. | Jun 01 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | That's like "So old that probably nobody even knew if it still worked.". | Jun 01 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | What are the chances you'd be running X.org Server 1.15 (the last stable series that had this code) *and* a 2.4 Linux kernel? | Jun 01 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | If you're using Linux 2.4, you probably have an XFree86 X server. | Jun 01 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | One Ubuntu release used XFree86. That was 4.10 Warty Warthog. | Jun 01 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | The second release switched to X.org. | Jun 01 17:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pyAoY9C.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/pjQNY ) | Jun 01 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-King Harald and Queen Sonja of Norway are both celebrating their 80th birthday this year. Therefore I want to commemorate one of their best tv moments. - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 17:19 | |
| MinceR | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/kids | Jun 01 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theoatmeal.com | Why haven't you had kids yet? - The Oatmeal | Jun 01 17:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/85ff62200b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-09 ) | Jun 01 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robot Attacks Boss - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-09 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 01 18:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | I understand that Valve has their own port of xpad. | Jun 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | So now there are three xbox controller drivers for Linux and they all have their own features and bugs. | Jun 01 19:19 |
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| cubexyz | xautolock hasn't changed since 2007 | Jun 02 00:05 |
| cubexyz | most of X11R6 code will still compile and work... that's 1994 | Jun 02 00:06 |
| cubexyz | before that? no way | Jun 02 00:06 |
| cubexyz | the difficulty of dealing with old code is amplified by how hardware specific it is | Jun 02 00:13 |
| cubexyz | a simple text based program could possibly work fine on Unix v7 from 1979 | Jun 02 00:14 |
| cubexyz | game code? now you're dealing with difficult and era specific problems | Jun 02 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I wanted to fix or at least modernize HOMM3 for linux | Jun 02 00:18 |
| cubexyz | but it seems that there's a new project that recreates it: VCMI | Jun 02 00:19 |
| cubexyz | to be more specific it's actually a recreation of HOMM: WoG (in the wake of the gods) | Jun 02 00:21 |
| cubexyz | VCMI needs the data from HOMM3: WoG to work | Jun 02 00:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have not had trouble with X11R5 stuff ie 1991 on X11R6 and newer in most cases. | Jun 02 00:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11R4 stuff I am not sure on. | Jun 02 00:32 |
| cubexyz | try compiling X11R5 xclock | Jun 02 00:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: being the user applications not test code. | Jun 02 00:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: most cases means that there are a few busts. | Jun 02 00:34 |
| cubexyz | I'll try puzzle... | Jun 02 00:34 |
| cubexyz | ha, that worked although it generated some warnings | Jun 02 00:34 |
| cubexyz | for xclock X11R5 got "error: conflicting types for sys_errlist" | Jun 02 00:35 |
| cubexyz | hold on, I think that was X11R3 actually | Jun 02 00:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this was building from source not attempt to straight up run X11R5 binary on X11R6 | Jun 02 00:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised you even looked at X11R5 | Jun 02 00:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my cases I was using the X11R5 binary as is. | Jun 02 00:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: worse it was for a unix but I was using on Linux using a emulation wrapper. | Jun 02 00:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://linux-abi.sourceforge.net/ this stuff I would not be doing something like this today very often. | Jun 02 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-abi.sourceforge.net | Linux A.B.I. Homepage | Jun 02 00:40 | |
| cubexyz | that's neat | Jun 02 00:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its also a dead project these days. | Jun 02 00:43 |
| cubexyz | most of the stuff I wrote for xenix will compile on Linux though | Jun 02 00:43 |
| cubexyz | and also compile on PDP-11 sysv | Jun 02 00:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: ibcs-3_8.tgz that you find https://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-abi/files/linux-abi-2.6/ is able to use xenix binaries on Linux. | Jun 02 00:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux ABI Project - Browse /linux-abi-2.6 at SourceForge.net | Jun 02 00:45 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: but it would require updating. | Jun 02 00:45 |
| cubexyz | I think I might have tweaked it a little... added #include <stdlib.h> and #include <string.h> | Jun 02 00:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of this is wine for unix crap. | Jun 02 00:45 |
| cubexyz | but that's it | Jun 02 00:45 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jun 02 00:45 |
| cubexyz | well there was PDP-11 for Vax way before wine... and probably many other examples | Jun 02 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Note the last update is 2009 so its been a while since I have been using it. | Jun 02 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Most of these tools disappear out of usage when all the applications that major businesses need have been ported. | Jun 02 00:47 |
| oiaohm | Of course PDP-11 emulators are still going strong. | Jun 02 00:47 |
| cubexyz | that's the guy who sued VMware | Jun 02 00:51 |
| cubexyz | Christoph Hellwig... I've seen the name before | Jun 02 00:51 |
| cubexyz | I don't know anyone that runs Xenix now | Jun 02 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I thought Unix v7 was a lot more interesting | Jun 02 00:59 |
| cubexyz | that's the real basis for Xenix anyway | Jun 02 00:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: scary enough there were people running Xenix in 2009 | Jun 02 01:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: for business tasks. | Jun 02 01:00 |
| cubexyz | Radio Shack used to use it back in the day | Jun 02 01:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you still find some places still using dos. | Jun 02 01:01 |
| cubexyz | if it does the job... | Jun 02 01:01 |
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| MinceR | https://68.media.tumblr.com/62eb73ae56dc37b145b391588d9a65bb/tumblr_opphftuzIV1vtbos4o1_1280.jpg | Jun 02 03:46 |
| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/87dfde100b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-10 ) | Jun 02 04:09 |
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| MinceR | http://style.org/unladenswallow/ | Jun 02 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow | style.org | Jun 02 06:36 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really studies like that show how little we really know about nature. | Jun 02 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: back home | Jun 02 10:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you send irc logs at your time of convenience (not urgent at all) | Jun 02 10:51 |
| zoobab_ | pong | Jun 02 10:52 |
| zoobab_ | I think I saw the Bundesrat moving on UPC this week | Jun 02 10:53 |
| zoobab_ | so it is time to work on an appeal in DE | Jun 02 10:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't have time at the moment | Jun 02 11:07 |
| schestowitz | will watch your feed | Jun 02 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I was away from home 18 days | Jun 02 11:07 |
| zoobab_ | holidays? | Jun 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 02 11:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cubexyz et al: did someone relates to EPO say something in this channel in past 3 weeks? | Jun 02 11:16 |
| schestowitz | Or looked for me specifically, e.g. regarding new info/leak? | Jun 02 11:16 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't able to keep up | Jun 02 11:16 |
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| gde33 | MinceR: I talk with a guy driving a train one time about the amount of animals killed by rail traffic per day. He said all speed estimates of all bird species are wrong. He regularly chased birds with speeds up to 120 km/h and some just manage to fly away in the face of imminent death. | Jun 02 15:31 |
| gde33 | He regularly saw a variaty of small birds hit 140 | Jun 02 15:31 |
| gde33 | then when he looked up the species he got figures like in the article 24 mph | Jun 02 15:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870743052071170048 | Jun 02 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB | Jun 02 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #nokia #aosp #google | Jun 02 16:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #cyanogen | Jun 02 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 02 16:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 16:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 16:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 16:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/870743999635705856 | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #nokia #aosp #google | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #cyanogen | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 16:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870745790280605696 | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and #GearFit | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PHvHJN3Jtt (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #tizenOS | Jun 02 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 16:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and Gear Fit | Tux Machines | Jun 02 16:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and #GearFit...' | Jun 02 16:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 16:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 17:03 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870748697923080192 | Jun 02 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Toyota 's Linux #Love in the News | Jun 02 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zX67MlCytl (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 02 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #driving #infotainment #freesw | Jun 02 17:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 17:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toyota's Linux Love in the News | Tux Machines | Jun 02 17:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Some more Lenovo laptops locked to RAID | Jun 02 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Ideapad-710S-Plus-13IKB-not-just-710s-13IKB-BIOS-supporting-AHCI/td-p/3645033 | Jun 02 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Ideapad 710S Plus-13IKB (not just 710s-13IKB), BIOS supporting AHCI mode and LINUX installation. - Lenovo Community | Jun 02 17:09 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/RAID-lock-again-on-Miix-720/td-p/3667864 | Jun 02 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | RAID lock again on Miix 720 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9un ] | Jun 02 17:09 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: as before? | Jun 02 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly as before, schestowitz | Jun 02 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, one guy says they just deleted his post about it completely. | Jun 02 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/No-Linux-BIOS-for-ideapad-710S-quot-Plus-13IKB-quot/td-p/3586694 | Jun 02 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: No Linux BIOS for ideapad 710S "Plus-13IKB" - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9uv ] | Jun 02 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | "I had posted this problem to the thread in this February, and my message disappeared after few days. I'm not accusing the admin removed my post, but it just disappeared. | Jun 02 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Jun 02 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Lenovo is reluctant to release Linux BIOS. Why not purchasing laptop from other vendor? I refunded the ideapad and bought ASUS ZenBook UX410UQ. It has a similar spec, a lower cost, a normal right Shift key, and Linux can be installed in a breeze. " | Jun 02 17:11 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jun 02 17:12 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 02 17:12 |
| schestowitz | keep on eye on this for updates | Jun 02 17:12 |
| schestowitz | let's bring some heat | Jun 02 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 02 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 02 17:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870748963804262400 | Jun 02 17:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I might try out Fedora 26. No Beta release yet but there's a nightly image that should be pretty close. | Jun 02 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard it's pretty stable already. GNOME Software accidentally upgraded one guy to the Alpha and he said he used it for weeks before realizing it. | Jun 02 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME has gotten pretty good, actually. I don't know why they don't ship it with the desktop shell extensions on. | Jun 02 17:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security News: #Pandemic for #Microsoft #Windows, | Jun 02 17:39 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 02 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux | Jun 02 20:43 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, more thoughts percolating about UEFI... | Jun 02 23:23 |
| cubexyz | we can safely say there are offerings from HP and Lenovo which are hostile | Jun 02 23:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-hostile-bios.txt | Jun 02 23:24 |
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| cubexyz | ASUS P8Z68-V had a good feature... none of this windows-only or dos-floppy rubbish for BIOS updates | Jun 02 23:37 |
| cubexyz | .rom file on a USB stick and off you go | Jun 02 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | Booting to DOS was how I upgraded the BIOS on that Foxconn motherboard, in 2008... :P | Jun 02 23:43 |
| cubexyz | ok, on one machine I got free-dos but still... I wouldn't want to have to use that for BIOS updates | Jun 02 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | I made a boot USB stick with FreeDOS and put the BIOS update in a folder. | Jun 02 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Not convenient, but better than installing Windows to update the BIOS. | Jun 02 23:45 |
| cubexyz | ASUS has a thing they called Flashback | Jun 02 23:46 |
| cubexyz | you don't even need CPU or memory to use it | Jun 02 23:46 |
| cubexyz | But... | Jun 02 23:47 |
| cubexyz | the USB stick does have to be formatted for FAT or NTFS | Jun 02 23:47 |
| cubexyz | of course that is using an UEFI BIOS | Jun 02 23:49 |
| cubexyz | not really ideal... but still an improvement | Jun 02 23:51 |
| cubexyz | in coreboot-land we have the flashrom utility | Jun 02 23:57 |
| cubexyz | so assuming you have a working coreboot rom file you can just update the BIOS from linux | Jun 02 23:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fat is licensed to be used for UEFI stuff without charge. | Jun 02 23:59 |
| cubexyz | ah but you still pay the BIOS tax | Jun 03 00:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: no Microsoft licensed it for free for UEFI to prevent ext4 from being used. | Jun 03 00:00 |
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| cubexyz | American Megatrends still gets paid | Jun 03 00:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel threatened to write either ext4 of udf into the spec if there was going to be licensing costs. | Jun 03 00:01 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: neither windows supports well on harddrives. | Jun 03 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I spread around your pist | Jun 03 00:01 |
| schestowitz | (post also) | Jun 03 00:02 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, what I mean is that the BIOS company is still paid by whoever makes the motherboard | Jun 03 00:02 |
| cubexyz | AMI or whoever it is | Jun 03 00:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #SMARC module and dev kit run #Linux on dual-core | Jun 03 00:02 |
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| cubexyz | there are a few (very few) special cases that use coreboot but it's rare | Jun 03 00:03 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: using intel reference UEFI they don't have to pay either. | Jun 03 00:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations | Jun 03 00:04 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.tianocore.org/ intels reference UEFI implementation. | Jun 03 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tianocore.org | Welcome | Jun 03 00:04 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I don't understand why so many motherboard makers are paying third parties. | Jun 03 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870853512539906048 | Jun 03 00:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Jun 03 00:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jun 03 00:05 | |
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| cubexyz | writing a BIOS is kind of hard | Jun 03 00:06 |
| cubexyz | much easier (although not ideal) to license from AMI or Phoenix or whoever is still around | Jun 03 00:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I understood it when intel and amd were not providing functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 00:06 |
| cubexyz | there's something up with Intel EDAC as well... | Jun 03 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Things have changed there are functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 00:07 |
| cubexyz | I heard some people complain about that | Jun 03 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.ft.com/content/71d92114-4704-11e7-8519-9f94ee97d996 | Jun 03 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Jun 03 00:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Not good for users. | Jun 03 00:07 |
| cubexyz | it's TRON all over again :-/ | Jun 03 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's Google's plan to paywall the entire web. | Jun 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | And good luck getting the former Verizon lawyer at the FCC to do anything about it. | Jun 03 00:09 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't balk at paying for Scientific American | Jun 03 00:14 |
| cubexyz | I bought a ton of magazines back in the day | Jun 03 00:14 |
| cubexyz | 60 bucks a month is expensive though | Jun 03 00:15 |
| cubexyz | All access (access all the way back to 1845) is $99 | Jun 03 00:19 |
| cubexyz | per year I think that is | Jun 03 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | I just feel like it's nickel and diming. | Jun 03 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | And you know that Google's idea of acceptable ads will still have a lot of the shit that drove people to use ad blockers. | Jun 03 00:22 |
| cubexyz | well the ads everywhere are annoying, yes | Jun 03 00:23 |
| cubexyz | during a hockey game they even show full screen ads during the game broadcast | Jun 03 00:29 |
| cubexyz | if there's a timeout | Jun 03 00:30 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is always the problem. Hardware that supports the internet does cost money to keep operating | Jun 03 00:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: same with TV and everything else. | Jun 03 00:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/commerciallength.htm | Jun 03 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.waynesthisandthat.com | Growth of TV Time taken up by Commercials | Jun 03 00:36 | |
| cubexyz | it keeps getting worse, although it did seem to improve slightly or at least reached a maximum of 33% | Jun 03 00:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need to look at TV show cost of production. | Jun 03 00:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you have to remember 1952 the people in the shows were getting very low wages and the operating costs were quite low. | Jun 03 00:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so as the cost to produce the shows have gone up so has the volume of advertisement gone up. | Jun 03 00:40 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: cost of productions started leveling out in 2001 as well. | Jun 03 00:42 |
| cubexyz | it's reached a saturation point I'd say | Jun 03 00:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_96_%28TV_series%29 think about the insanity of this show from 1973 | Jun 03 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Number 96 (TV series) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qybnb ] | Jun 03 00:44 | |
| cubexyz | run more ads now, you'll lose part of the audience | Jun 03 00:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it was recorded and broadcast live with only 3 camera. | Jun 03 00:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: any goof went straight to air. | Jun 03 00:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you don't see shows like that any more. | Jun 03 00:45 |
| cubexyz | there's still live tv | Jun 03 00:45 |
| cubexyz | weather, sports etc | Jun 03 00:45 |
| oiaohm | To be correct most on a time delay these days. | Jun 03 00:45 |
| cubexyz | that is true | Jun 03 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Why you see rapid cut to adds at times of operated are awake. | Jun 03 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Also if you watch advertisement counts they go down in the news and the like. | Jun 03 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Because they are lower cost productions. | Jun 03 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Our TV adverisement problem is mostly being addicted to highly expensive to produce programs to watch. | Jun 03 00:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: here in Australia we have a SBS channel they don't put advertisement slots in shows. Only advertisement at start and end and choose lower cost to produce productions to make every balance out. | Jun 03 00:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so a lower advertisement channels can be done. | Jun 03 00:49 |
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| cubexyz | I can't really recall 1970s australian tv shows | Jun 03 02:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe Mission Magic? Did they show that in Australia? | Jun 03 02:02 |
| cubexyz | old cartoon, had Rick Springfield in it | Jun 03 02:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Golden Girls - Wikipedia | Jun 03 02:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #server | Jun 03 02:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Retro Gaming Emulators for Linux | Jun 03 02:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #education | Jun 03 02:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A list of open source tools for college | Tux Machines | Jun 03 02:23 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: 1970 australia light on cartoons you lots of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_Productions Crawfords Productions stuff. | Jun 03 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Crawford Productions - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qyc82 ] | Jun 03 02:45 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I think it was you who mentioned about https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ This is kind of wrong to blame lenovo the issue is a Intel made raid controller. | Jun 03 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 03 02:47 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Linux still does not support a particular feature. | Jun 03 02:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that mode uses the SSD as a cache to the hdd. | Jun 03 02:48 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well done, it's gaining traction | Jun 03 02:54 |
| schestowitz | and Lenovo won't be loving this | Jun 03 02:54 |
| schestowitz | they need to check which components they choose | Jun 03 02:55 |
| schestowitz | need to rid themselves of that lasting impression of "Microsoft First" or "Microsoft Only" | Jun 03 02:56 |
| schestowitz | ThinkPads were all about choice when they took over | Jun 03 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, There is no HDD. | Jun 03 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | These systems are SSD only. | Jun 03 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Really fast. | Jun 03 03:11 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the mode I mentioned. It can operate without hdd as well. | Jun 03 03:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that raid mode allowed bipassing a stack of poor performing optimisations in windows. | Jun 03 03:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It would be interesting if Linux had access to the same mode if it would provide the performance boosts as it does under windows. | Jun 03 03:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 03:45 |
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| cubexyz | ppfftt, come on | Jun 03 04:08 |
| cubexyz | it's all just software... | Jun 03 04:08 |
| cubexyz | nothing magical or better about windows | Jun 03 04:08 |
| cubexyz | we can complain about obscurantism though | Jun 03 04:10 |
| cubexyz | since that's all that's holding Linux et all back | Jun 03 04:10 |
| cubexyz | but I find it amusing that Sony made Linux TVs | Jun 03 04:11 |
| cubexyz | rather than pay $$$ to their hated rival | Jun 03 04:12 |
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| cubexyz | even more amusing... Bell used Linux PVRs | Jun 03 04:13 |
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| cubexyz | hard drive had an ext2 partition... they figured people would find it harder to copy the files off of it | Jun 03 04:14 |
| cubexyz | of course, you have to remove the hard drive from the unit' | Jun 03 04:15 |
| cubexyz | btw channel master PVR's used the same thing | Jun 03 04:18 |
| cubexyz | EXT file system | Jun 03 04:19 |
| cubexyz | and you can use an external hard drive with it :) | Jun 03 04:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Plan of separating #freesw and #gnu #linux news from the | Jun 03 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rest using @tuxmachines ... so far, so good. Feedback | Jun 03 10:17 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab_: | Jun 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | What publication method best nowadays? | Jun 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Microblogging (many posts)? | Jun 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Several short blog posts? | Jun 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Few very detailed articles? | Jun 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | I want change... | Jun 03 14:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueOS STABLE Update: June 2, 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 16:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/871096151050784768 | Jun 03 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 51 GPUs Tested, From The #Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 | Jun 03 16:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fury: Testing The 2017 Driver Stack | Jun 03 16:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 51 GPUs Tested, From The Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 Fury: Testing The 2017 Linux Driver Stack | Tux Machines | Jun 03 16:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #androidpay #linux | Jun 03 16:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/E1tenne/status/871105142149578755 | Jun 03 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 51 GPUs Tested, From The #Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 | Jun 03 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @E1tenne Fury: Testing The 2017 Driver Stack | Jun 03 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6I6lN14G7V (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 03 17:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 17:37 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.cinemablend.com/games/1666329/rimes-drm-will-be-removed-because-hackers This is a rare. How many times have we seen game developers attempt to fix the drm instead of giving up on it. | Jun 03 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cinemablend.com | Rime's DRM Will Be Removed, Because Hackers | Jun 03 17:59 | |
| razielle_tzu | too many? | Jun 03 18:08 |
| razielle_tzu | then again, with the DRM causing issues in the first place i'm not surprised it was cracked so quickly and then removed | Jun 03 18:12 |
| razielle_tzu | i just told my partner about it and she said it seems like that form of DRM was intended to be cracked in order to see if it was the DRM causing the gameply issues | Jun 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Steam is possibly the worst software port to Linux that I've ever seen. | Jun 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Local copies of a bunch of libraries, thinks that as long as it works on Ubuntu it's perfect. | Jun 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's a fine example of when Windows programmers do a Linux port. | Jun 03 18:15 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: bundling is how come most Windows applications work across windows versions. | Jun 03 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It doesn't seem to work very well on Linux. | Jun 03 18:28 |
| oiaohm | flatpak is also bundling. | Jun 03 18:28 |
| oiaohm | same with appimage .... | Jun 03 18:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: even under windows bundling at times goes south when everything required is not bundled. | Jun 03 18:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: bundling is a solution to multi OS version support. Comes with prices that it does not always work. | Jun 03 18:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and security downsides. | Jun 03 18:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: steam does a better job than here a tar.gz files with binaries and we forgot to tell you what OS we developed that on. | Jun 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The problem is that Steam isn't really included in the package. | Jun 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's a stub and then Steam updates itself, so the packager has no control over the version. | Jun 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Meaning that if Steam's dependencies change, it can break. | Jun 03 18:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and those tar.gz games I was refering to some of those had autoupaters are well. | Jun 03 18:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really I would like to see steam in flatpak from valve themselves. | Jun 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | I just posted that on Facebook, actually. | Jun 03 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, for now, I'm just installing Steam on Wine. | Jun 03 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | They only really care about Windows. | Jun 03 18:35 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: valve does care about steam on ubuntu because they want that for their console. | Jun 03 18:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it had really worried of Mir had stayed alive then going cross would have been a lot harder. | Jun 03 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Mir was a terrible idea. | Jun 03 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see it as having solved any problems that Wayland doesn't. | Jun 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | To be honest, I think a user would be hard pressed to say whether they were running under Wayland or X at this poit. | Jun 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | They've cleared enough crap out of the X Server and bypassed it when it couldn't be fixed that it works well enough these days. | Jun 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Looking at it from the other angle, they're already adding extensions to Wayland to do things that X does. | Jun 03 18:42 |
| oiaohm | I really suspect Ubuntu will die before they work out a CLA is a really bad idea too. | Jun 03 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | More likely be bought by Microsoft. | Jun 03 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, I reported the issues to Aspyr. | Jun 03 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Since they're not Valve games, Valve just directs you to Aspyr. | Jun 03 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | It's up to the publisher to make sure the game works. | Jun 03 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | bbl | Jun 03 19:22 |
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| cubexyz | well when the pirated version of a game runs _better_ than the official DRMed version, it's not that surprising that the DRM is removed | Jun 03 19:33 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: it is the common case. DRM has overhead. | Jun 03 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | [00:04] <DaemonFC> More likely be bought by Microsoft. | Jun 03 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Cannot happen | Jun 03 20:39 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: nothing is impossible. | Jun 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page | Jun 03 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikinews.org | Wikinews, the free news source | Jun 03 21:16 | |
| schestowitz | nothing about London yet | Jun 03 21:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikinews?lang=en | Jun 03 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Wikinews (English) (@wikinews) on Twitter | Jun 03 21:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/tearful-robbie-williams-breaks-down-10552526 | Jun 03 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Robbie Williams bursts into tears mid-song as he dedicates Angels to Manchester victims - so crowd sings it for him - Mirror Online [ http://ur1.ca/qygyt ] | Jun 03 21:20 | |
| schestowitz | Hours later London was struck | Jun 03 21:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/9325484#713f4b401e4001359b3300163e5dbca2 | Jun 03 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My grandfather taught me (before he died 2 years ago) that considering change is essential to avoid self-reinforcing traps. Time for change? | Jun 03 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Paradigms akin to the “Tough Town Paradox” come to mind. | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Often times people either offer to toss you out or implore (start a fight with) you to remain in a bad place to fight it. | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Hardest problems in life to me are : | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Who is a friend? | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | When does one stay or leave and for what reasons? | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | What else needs to be changed and why? | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | What is most important? Seems less obvious when you realize you have no friends or family… | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Being related to people or married to them won’t make them respect or care about you. | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | "Oh Canada!" | Jun 03 21:28 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks "Downing Street was later forced to admit...' | Jun 03 21:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks She also allegedly suppressed #torturereport serving to...' | Jun 03 21:33 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Downing Street was later forced to admit...' | Jun 03 21:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Allies? https://t.co/POHFw7Elnm' | Jun 03 21:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks Allies? https://t.co/POHFw7Elnm | Jun 03 21:51 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks "May accused the police of "scaremongering" ....' | Jun 03 22:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/E1tenne/status/871187554665672704 | Jun 03 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 12-Way #RadeonSI #OpenGL Comparison vs. #NVIDIA On | Jun 03 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @E1tenne #Ubuntu #Linux https://t.co/AMC91s5VBj | Jun 03 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics #benchmark #radeon | Jun 03 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 03 22:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 12-Way RadeonSI OpenGL Comparison vs. NVIDIA On Ubuntu Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 03 22:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks And now they pretend to be all...' | Jun 03 22:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/E1tenne/status/871199719187468289 | Jun 03 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming | Jun 03 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @E1tenne early June https://t.co/xlIXTjlbum (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 03 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 03 23:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 03 23:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming early June | Tux Machines | Jun 03 23:06 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks In the US it is simple to...' | Jun 03 23:19 | |
| cubexyz | that's why I like gog | Jun 03 23:32 |
| cubexyz | no DRM | Jun 03 23:32 |
| cubexyz | who really wants DRM anyways? | Jun 03 23:32 |
| cubexyz | it's always a pain | Jun 03 23:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868602288620806144 | May 28 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/wuMmdeaNiI | May 28 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #iso #mobile | May 28 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #aosp #samsung | May 28 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 28 00:00 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/wuMmdeaNiI #android #linux #google #iso #mobile...' | May 28 00:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868603373573951489 | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/VFza7uhaeP | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #wannacry #ransomware | May 28 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 28 00:02 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/VFza7uhaeP #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #wannacry...' | May 28 00:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868603908427350016 | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mastodon is so healthy in terms of growth that | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines got in less than two months same number of | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | followers it took 4 years in Twitter | May 28 00:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868606456295071744 | May 28 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech | May 28 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices: FriendlyElec, NComputing, CubieTech | Tux Machines | May 28 00:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech https://t.co/7Ev8zP4iAZ' | May 28 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868607762694979584 | May 28 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A | May 28 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt #gnu #linux #freesw | May 28 00:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.1.1 released | Tux Machines | May 28 00:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A #kde #qt #gnu #linux...' | May 28 00:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-status-quo http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1494958693-soonish4after.png | May 28 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Status Quo | May 28 00:38 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @EthanHester7 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A #kde #qt #gnu #linux...' | May 28 00:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech https://t.co/7Ev8zP4iAZ' | May 28 00:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/868613210265473024 | May 28 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech | May 28 00:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868616412331253760 | May 28 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen News: Smart TVs, Wallpapers, and Games | May 28 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/U47lTDFKAj (tuxmachines.org) #samsung #gnu | May 28 00:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | May 28 00:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tizen News: Smart TVs, Wallpapers, and Games | Tux Machines | May 28 00:56 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/GhZGbjH.png | May 28 01:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868616795426439168 | May 28 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Tizen News: Smart TVs, Wallpapers, and Games | May 28 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/U47lTDFKAj (tuxmachines.org) #samsung #gnu | May 28 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | May 28 01:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.1.1 released | Tux Machines | May 28 01:40 | |
| cubexyz | well anyone can delve into the X11 code | May 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | and some of that code hasn't changed at all in many years | May 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | just last night I was looking at the old xpr utility | May 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | xpr-1.0.1 | May 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | there's also xdpr | May 28 01:53 |
| cubexyz | dumps an X window directly to the printer | May 28 01:54 |
| cubexyz | still works on DEC LA100 :) | May 28 01:55 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11 | May 28 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikibooks.org | Guide to X11 - Wikibooks, open books for an open world | May 28 02:01 | |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/modeling | May 28 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Modeling [ http://ur1.ca/qxk3u ] | May 28 02:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/868628052443447296 | May 28 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A | May 28 02:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup (tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt #gnu #linux #freesw | May 28 02:21 |
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| cubexyz | funny | May 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it get scary when you start looking in the sections of the X11 server that have not been touched for 7+ years yet are in use every day of the week. | May 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: kind of hello bug central. | May 28 02:56 |
| cubexyz | do you see cubelog? | May 28 02:56 |
| cubexyz | it's been running xchat for the last 400 days | May 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | so X can't be _that_ bad | May 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | I supposed if you really wanted to be strict you could run openbsd without X | May 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | many boxes do just that | May 28 03:01 |
| cubexyz | also on modern slack X runs as user not root | May 28 03:03 |
| cubexyz | openbsd does also | May 28 03:06 |
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| cubexyz | if xwayland worked as well as regular X11, I would consider using it on some machines | May 28 03:29 |
| cubexyz | I probably will anyway... may as well see what's up | May 28 03:29 |
| cubexyz | but most distros seem to still use X11, although I admit there's lots of them I've never tried | May 28 03:30 |
| cubexyz | someimes one has to backport things | May 28 03:31 |
| cubexyz | there's a historical interest... what did the old software do? What got dropped? | May 28 03:32 |
| cubexyz | most of the X code is perserved | May 28 03:32 |
| cubexyz | preserved | May 28 03:33 |
| cubexyz | I think X10R3 is the oldest I've looked at | May 28 03:33 |
| cubexyz | that's 1986 era | May 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | uwm was introduced | May 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | and I should note that there's two uwm's | May 28 03:43 |
| cubexyz | the original Ultrix Window Manager and the Universal Window Manager | May 28 03:44 |
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| cubexyz | Ultrix wm is probably not maintained now | May 28 03:44 |
| cubexyz | ah, now I remember | May 28 03:45 |
| cubexyz | Ultrix was up to X11R3 | May 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | it was replaced by twm | May 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | i'll do a quick recap: | May 28 03:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-x.txt | May 28 03:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868660648493719552 | May 28 03:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/R3BlGAIdSI (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 03:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #gnu #linux #freesw #unix | May 28 03:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 28 03:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/R3BlGAIdSI #howto #gnu #linux #freesw #unix' | May 28 03:52 | |
| liberty_box | MinceR, thanks for logging | May 28 03:58 |
| liberty_box | just caught up with some links above (this is RIanne's laptop) | May 28 03:58 |
| MinceR | :) | May 28 04:02 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg there is a security problem here. Non root xorg still end with input and screen open to all processes. This is not good when you are attempting to protect password entry and other items like that. | May 28 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gentoo.org | Non root Xorg - Gentoo Wiki | May 28 04:10 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11 was not design with any of these security concepts in mind. | May 28 04:11 |
| cubexyz | it seems like xwayland would have the same problem then | May 28 04:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it does for the applications running inside the same xwayland instance. | May 28 04:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the wayland compositor inside wayland system ends up in control of input and screen direct interfaces passed can be passed over by filehandle by logind and there is different method on bsd and solaris. | May 28 04:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so two pure wayland applications cannot go snooping on each other without the compositors permission. | May 28 04:23 |
| oiaohm | That is one of the big changes with the wayland design vs x11. | May 28 04:23 |
| cubexyz | what if I was running two X servers on the same computer? could one X program look at the inputs on the other server? | May 28 04:23 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: current X11 servers at times yes. | May 28 04:24 |
| cubexyz | well, I guess for important stuff you'd be the only user | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | e.g. banking or government stuff | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | just don't use other computers for that | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | still, it's good to be aware of these issues | May 28 04:29 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mupuf.org/blog/2014/02/19/wayland-compositors-why-and-how-to-handle/ wayland is really designed to address the issues for X11 security. | May 28 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wayland compositors - Why and how to Handle privileged clients! (Updated on the 2014/02/21) - mupuf.org | May 28 04:30 | |
| oiaohm | Addressing the security issues of X11 has required wayland to drop features for a while until they could work out how they could be implemented correctly. | May 28 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Also addressing the security issues of X11 has required updating the graphics drivers and input drivers. | May 28 04:32 |
| oiaohm | this kinda explains why wayland is taking like forever to land. Fixing X11 faults is not easy. | May 28 04:33 |
| cubexyz | I assume chromeos doesn't have these problems? | May 28 04:35 |
| oiaohm | changed to wayland fixs some problems. Of course leaves the problem of doing most things in 1 application. | May 28 04:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: changing to wayland in chromeos to be exact. | May 28 04:36 |
| cubexyz | actually I thought it used freon | May 28 04:36 |
| cubexyz | but I'm not sure | May 28 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868664701982351360 | May 28 04:37 |
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| cubexyz | I guess old chromeos still used X11 | May 28 04:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Feren OS Could Be the Best-Looking Desktop on the Market | Tux Machines | May 28 04:38 | |
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| oiaohm | freon is a wayland compositor https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ARC-Wayland-Clients-ChromeOS The android emulation for chromeos is also wayland. | May 28 04:41 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: so google dropped X11 and moved to wayland after starting freon with the possiblity of being a unique item. | May 28 04:41 |
| cubexyz | it seems to be that wayland is actually running inside the browser | May 28 04:43 |
| cubexyz | chrome --enable-wayland-server | May 28 04:43 |
| cubexyz | so I'm already using wayland | May 28 04:44 |
| cubexyz | on one computer at least | May 28 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Most of X11 to wayland changes should not be that visual. | May 28 04:47 |
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| cubexyz | I've added "the great suspender" to chrome | May 28 07:16 |
| cubexyz | we'll see how well it works | May 28 07:16 |
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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/FYates94/status/868767508832157696 | May 28 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FYates94: @HorshamGardener @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a politica… https://t.co/BowHD7uWli | May 28 10:56 | |
| acer-box | "Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a political statement is typed #infinitemonkeys" | May 28 10:56 |
| acer-box | The latest says 7 points https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/voting-intention-conservatives-43-labour-36-25-26-/ and YouGov is run by a Tory | May 28 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yougov.co.uk | YouGov | Voting Intention: Conservatives 43%, Labour 36% (25-26 May) | May 28 10:59 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | May 28 13:41 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Hi | May 28 13:43 |
| oiaohm | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/mesa/log/?h=r600-rats&utm_source=phx got to like using rats on a prototype branch. | May 28 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | ~airlied/mesa - Dave's mesa hackery | May 28 13:45 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hi | May 28 13:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and #KDE | May 28 21:45 |
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| liberty_box | https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/i-was-struck-by-lightning-yesterday-and-boy-am-i-sore/ | May 29 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | I was struck by lightning yesterday—and boy am I sore | Ars Technica | May 29 00:31 | |
| liberty_box | "Today, my whole body is sore—even my organs ache in a hard-to-describe way—but I feel lucky to have walked away unscathed. There's a fine line between awe and terror. I have now been inextricably nudged to the right of it." | May 29 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC | So, what's the plan for existing Ubuntu GNOME users? Do they just get updated to the next release and that's just "Ubuntu" now? I'd kind of like to know before I commit to installing something. | May 29 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not too sure that I like Wayland anyway. | May 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have a HiDPI display and when I tried out KDE on Wayland, I could only choose to scale 100%, 200%, etc. No 250% option. | May 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · Chicago · | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft Edge is safer than Chrome" | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | From the company that brought you NTFS file locking on $MFT. :) | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I own some of Apple and Microsoft, indirectly. | May 29 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Index fund. Can't avoid them if I want my money in the index. Not sure I'd want to anyway. They have been making a lot of money lately. | May 29 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | The return on bonds is pathetic nowadays. It's a safe place for your money to rapidly lose value to inflation. The US is paying 2.3% on ten year notes and that's "high" by the standards of the developed world. | May 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to get higher returns is to accept default risk on bonds from entities with lower credit ratings. | May 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | Someone will even lend Chicago Public Schools money, at triple the rate what a school system with good credit would pay. | May 29 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | So we're all trapped in the "most hated stock market rally ever". | May 29 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they call it that because the rally is happening due to a mix of inflation and low bond returns. Everyone piles up to get into the stock market in the hopes of beating the rate on bonds and that's why the market goes up. | May 29 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | I saw an article saying that Google and Amazon stocks are near $1,000 a share and that makes them easier to manipulate. The whole market is manipulated. | May 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | If the government was offering even 4-5% on bonds, which it was as recently as 20 years ago, people would pile out of the stock market and it would crash. | May 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is not comparable to the rally of the 1990s at all. That was a bubble, of course, but it was a bubble that formed despite higher interest rates because people were investing in technology stocks that they didn't understand (anything with a .com after it had a huge IPO even with no product). | May 29 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | This rally is the "lack of better options" one. The "everything bubble". | May 29 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is horribly horribly overvalued right now considering what their prospects are. | May 29 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | In a sane environment, they would either have to do a major share buyback or a higher dividend because when your stock value stops rising rapidly, investors eventually want the money somehow. | May 29 01:19 |
| liberty_box | true | May 29 01:21 |
| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/RicoMuscatel/status/868985855628718082 | May 29 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RicoMuscatel: @MCopeland1981 @schestowitz @JulianAssange Oh, please, are you really that gullible? | May 29 01:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I've been really meaning to go Linux full time on this machine since November of last year. I installed the "Linux" BIOS and then kept it in RAID mode. Dabbling with Linux from a live environment, trying to get a feel for what works and what doesn't. | May 29 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake mobile was such a major shake-up that many things in Linux just didn't work last year, or they worked and your laptop wouldn't go into low power mode, etc. | May 29 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Linux 4.10 kernel is finally basically good enough to use, albeit I'll have to tinker to get some rough edges taken care of (powertop tuning, display scale problems, etc.). | May 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | The system spends most of its idle time in the deepest power saving mode with all of the tunables set, so that's encouraging. | May 29 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett tested Linux 4.5 last year and estimated that under Windows it would idle at around 4 watts, and under Linux it would idle at around 8-9. With kernel 4.10 and some tuning, I'd be shocked if there was a major difference between Windows and Linux on battery life. | May 29 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | I brought all of this up last year when Garrett was telling me that even if I got Lenovo to allow Linux installs it was no use because power policy sucked back then (about 6 months ago). | May 29 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I came back with "If we don't get them to allow Linux installs then nobody will ever be able to use Linux regardless of if and when the power management is good.". | May 29 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | My god that guy is short-sighted. | May 29 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | And it got them to change their tune about the Yoga 910 as well, and ship it with AHCI support out of the box. That one went from crap power management on Linux to good about 4 months after it was released. | May 29 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Toughing it out with Windows 10 for 4-6 months is better than being stuck with it for five years, or more. | May 29 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | What happens if you can only run Windows and they put more ads and spam in it or start disabling features and making you pay to subscribe to everything but the "core system". We're getting there. | May 29 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | The "Surface S" runs a new crippled Windos SKU that won't run anything from outside the store -or- the Subsystem for Linux apps unless you pay $50, which is about what OEMs were paying for the license all along. | May 29 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be interested in whether these things can run Linux. | May 29 01:32 |
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| cubexyz | my conscience is clear, no M$ stocks | May 29 01:47 |
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| cubexyz | xdpr is just a bash script | May 29 02:22 |
| cubexyz | it calls xwd and xpr | May 29 02:22 |
| oiaohm | I thought that was a standard posix sh ie no bash extras. | May 29 02:24 |
| cubexyz | right, right | May 29 02:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: because if it had become bash at some point that would have been a interesting goof up. | May 29 02:27 |
| cubexyz | bash was first released in 1989 but xpdr is older | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | so far I haven't managed to get it to print :-/ | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | typo again... xdpr | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I can just pipe xwd output to lp | May 29 02:30 |
| cubexyz | ok, I want the black and white reversed or I'm using too much toner | May 29 02:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from memory no as lp is text or postscript | May 29 02:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and newer versions support pdf as well. | May 29 02:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, yeah but xpr does the conversion to postscript | May 29 02:33 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | lp -d HP | May 29 02:34 |
| cubexyz | that works, but I get an error.. stdin in empty | May 29 02:35 |
| cubexyz | weird | May 29 02:35 |
| cubexyz | I'm doing something not quite right | May 29 02:36 |
| cubexyz | stdin is empty | May 29 02:36 |
| cubexyz | doh, I guess I don't pipe it at all :) | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, now I have some extra scrap paper :-P | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | if anyone wants to see the source: | May 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xpr-1.0.1.tar.bz2 | May 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | xpr has some nice command line settings for gamma correction and scaling | May 29 02:50 |
| cubexyz | I remember I used to do stuff like: cat test.txt > /dev/lp0 (output to parallel port) | May 29 03:05 |
| cubexyz | cat file.txt | lp | May 29 03:06 |
| cubexyz | that should also work | May 29 03:06 |
| cubexyz | of course "lp file.txt" works too | May 29 03:07 |
| cubexyz | early AIX on IBM RT had X10R3 | May 29 03:13 |
| oiaohm | More I hear of microsoft usage of git more nightmare in design windows source code sounds. | May 29 04:28 |
| cubexyz | you can look at NT 4.0 code | May 29 04:28 |
| oiaohm | 300GB git repo sounds like something over due for splitting. | May 29 04:28 |
| cubexyz | or maybe you have already | May 29 04:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you use to be able to get XP source under educational usage only. Yes this was highly stupid you were allowed to read the source but not build it. | May 29 04:29 |
| cubexyz | pffft | May 29 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Ok you could bulid to only to confirm that the source and XP matched . | May 29 04:30 |
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| oiaohm | So a reporductable build test | May 29 04:30 |
| oiaohm | I don't know if 7 and 10 has programs like that around I would suspect so. | May 29 04:31 |
| oiaohm | This is what lead to NSA and other collecting known back doors. | May 29 04:31 |
| cubexyz | Judge Kollar-Kotelly ordered M$ to disclose windows XP source I think | May 29 04:32 |
| cubexyz | and I noted you said "used to" | May 29 04:32 |
| oiaohm | https://m.thhttps://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review | May 29 04:34 |
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| oiaohm | https://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review/ | May 29 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.theregister.co.uk | Caldera case expert to review Windows XP source code • The Register | May 29 04:34 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it happened a few times. | May 29 04:35 |
| cubexyz | reall would you really want to sift through all that? | May 29 04:35 |
| cubexyz | really | May 29 04:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd rather just forget about it | May 29 04:35 |
| oiaohm | http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server/microsoft-grants-windows-source-code-access-mvps then you have this starting in 2003 | May 29 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Microsoft Grants Windows Source Code Access to MVPs | Windows Server content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/qxnp2 ] | May 29 04:36 | |
| oiaohm | so the idea that windows is closed source and people cannot be using automated tools against it to find faults who are not microsoft is bogus. | May 29 04:36 |
| cubexyz | Allchin ranks high on the list of Microsoft jerks | May 29 04:39 |
| cubexyz | "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger" | May 29 04:39 |
| cubexyz | oh and this is another gem: | May 29 04:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories,_Inc._v._Berkeley_Software_Design,_Inc. I am not sure I am unhappy about what happened to Novell | May 29 04:40 |
| cubexyz | "You should make sure it has problems in the future: | May 29 04:41 |
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| cubexyz | DR-DOS comment | May 29 04:41 |
| cubexyz | so remember Allchin was a jerk | May 29 04:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: do remember Novell has a long history of being jerks taking other people copyrighted works and stripping the credit. | May 29 04:41 |
| oiaohm | What happened to Dr-dos that was a jerk. | May 29 04:42 |
| cubexyz | ha, and DR-DOS used some utilities from FreeDOS | May 29 04:43 |
| cubexyz | but whatever, I'm never going to be a microsoft MVP | May 29 04:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: worse utilities from freedos under GPL license and they did not obey license and stripped out credit markings. | May 29 04:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and that back traces to being performed at Novell. | May 29 04:46 |
| cubexyz | I'm more of a Bell Labs + BSD fan really | May 29 04:47 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_%28company%29 and that leads to the SCO groups desperations. | May 29 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caldera (company) - Wikipedia | May 29 04:47 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes SCO suing Linux comes out of Novell | May 29 04:48 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix and all that... I never got anything but small scraps of source code | May 29 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Novell copyright thief who has caused lots of companies harm. | May 29 04:49 |
| cubexyz | the one everyone remembers fondly was Unix v7 | May 29 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft hating Novell is kind of a given. All companies who watched Novell history would not have wanting to be doing business with them as it was a great way to get burnt. | May 29 04:49 |
| cubexyz | most companies do evil things | May 29 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Selling products you don't own? Novell common play card. | May 29 04:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes most companies do evil things. Most don't go selling stuff they don't own. | May 29 04:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Novell is the second car salesman who regularly got caught selling cars they don't own of the software world. | May 29 04:53 |
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| cubexyz | oh btw... | May 29 05:03 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs recently allowed non-commercial study of the source code of Unix v8, v9 and v10 | May 29 05:04 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/old_unix_source_code_opened_for_study/ | May 29 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Samizdat no more: Old Unix source code opened for study • The Register | May 29 05:04 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: that opens up Pandora for claims of taint. I really hate non-commercial clauses. | May 29 05:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://monster6502.com/ I am sure I mentioned about this one to your before. | May 29 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-monster6502.com | MOnSter 6502 | May 29 05:08 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Windows 10 S is because OEMs don't want to pay for Windows licenses and Microsoft has to make it money some how. | May 29 05:08 |
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| DaemonFC | As long as you can still nuke Windows and install some other operating system, that's just fine. | May 29 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | At least the OEM won't pay Microsoft and then build the cost of the license into the computer. | May 29 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Something tells me it'll be Lenovo 2.0. They just find some way to prevent Linux from being installed and "oops". | May 29 05:10 |
| cubexyz | I have v8 running on emulated vax780 | May 29 05:11 |
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| cubexyz | no idea what v9 and v10 can run on | May 29 05:11 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, I do | May 29 05:12 |
| cubexyz | v9 can run on Sun-3 | May 29 05:12 |
| cubexyz | the old motorola 68020 cpu | May 29 05:14 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think monster 6502 was announced about a year ago | May 29 05:18 |
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| cubexyz | there's a newer version of the Lanam APL in there | May 29 05:41 |
| cubexyz | in Unix v10 | May 29 05:41 |
| cubexyz | looks like Unix v10 was VAX only | May 29 05:47 |
| cubexyz | Vax-11/750, Vax-11/780 and microvax II and III | May 29 05:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I'm going to be running v10 anytime soon :-/ | May 29 05:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/simh/simh | May 29 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - simh/simh: The Computer History Simulation Project | May 29 06:25 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's no disk image | May 29 06:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: simh has Vax-11/750 and Microvax II | May 29 06:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and I guess it missing the source to the boot loader and getting the build tools to work will be hell. | May 29 06:27 |
| cubexyz | I already have unix v8 running on simh, plus a bunch of other ones | May 29 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Vax-11/780 is in there as well. | May 29 06:28 |
| oiaohm | So the only one missing unless it under some other name is microvax III | May 29 06:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wonder if unix v8 can build unix v10 source. | May 29 06:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Very strange bug in Fedora. | May 29 06:44 |
| cubexyz | it's odd how v9 drifted unto Sun3 | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I posted to Facebook. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I checked out a Fedora live image with the latest updates as of 5-23 and GNOME and Wayland seem to work well enough, except that my volume control buttons worked and then something happened and they did not work anymore. I tried rebooting, shutting down, etc. No dice. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | They work in Windows. If I go to the GNOME Settings app and pick buttons to assign to volume up, down, and mute it detects them as I press the button, and they work as F1, F2, and F3 if I hold down the Fn key. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I googled it. Seems to be a problem that happens now and then. The only answer is to run GNOME in an X11 session. Boo! That's not what I want! | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Wayland still seems rough around the edges. | May 29 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's odd that Fedora is including MP3 playback (public domain on that end now) but Ubuntu won't, but what Ubuntu *will* do is obviously violate the GPL with ZFS, which is under an incompatible license. | May 29 06:47 |
| DaemonFC | Their lawyers apparently disagree. I'm not sure that I'd (a) trust that MINORITY legal opinion and (b) bait Oracle into suing me. | May 29 06:48 |
| cubexyz | some folks are running v9 on TME | May 29 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | They already managed to go judge shopping in the US until they found one that says that you can copyright an API. | May 29 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 06:48 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't OpenZFS be ok to use? | May 29 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | err | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | stupid up key | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The way I heard it is that Ubuntu is shipping Linux kernel code under the CDDL (the ZFS module) and claiming that it's alright because being a loadable module doesn't make you a derived work of the kernel. "The Nvidia defense" | May 29 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like Fedora is shipping Wayland out when it's clearly not ready to go. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Like most of the F25 Known Issues involve Wayland. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's this. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=wayland&product=Wayland&resolution=--- | May 29 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bugzilla is pondering your search | May 29 06:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it _is_ Fedora. They're well known for shipping things before they are known to work properly and then the users are supposed to spend all their time filing bugs on it. | May 29 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | Technology testbed more than an operating system. | May 29 06:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune https://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/869076552067231744 | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The BSDfortune Daily! https://t.co/9rQY1tyJCY | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @videlft @Anon_Universal | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #usrc #freebsd | May 29 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The BSDfortune Daily | May 29 08:19 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I agree wayland is still a work in progress. There is only so far you can get before starting more broad testing. | May 29 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, my volume keys only work if I'm holding down the Alt button on Fedora 25. Any ideas? | May 29 09:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really I don't know how that would be different thinking both wayland and X11 should be using libinput backend. | May 29 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems to work fine under X, but not under Wayland. | May 29 09:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: its a reportable bug. Most likely people testing it have not had keyboards with those keys. | May 29 09:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I would think your x.org would be using libinput? | May 29 09:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it is possilbe that you x11 is not using libinput https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput | May 29 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | libinput - ArchWiki | May 29 09:13 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Returning to the Void | Tux Machines | May 29 09:15 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/olivia-doll-predatory-journals That not good | May 29 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlasobscura.com | This Dog Sits on Seven Editorial Boards - Atlas Obscura | May 29 09:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Distro News: Alpine, Devuan, and openSUSE | Tux Machines | May 29 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869114171534721024 | May 29 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reasons to use the #GNOME3 desktop environment, cool #KDE | May 29 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tweaks, and #GNOME integration for #Qt based application | May 29 09:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Patches, and #BritishAirways Grounded | May 29 10:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Peppermint 8 #Linux OS Released, It's Based on #Ubuntu | May 29 10:39 |
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| liberty_box_ | > Hi, Roy, | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I was at a shop the other day and noticed they had about two dozen | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > notebooks. None were Chromebooks and all but four or five Apples were | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista 10. The interesting thing was that not a single one of the | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista10 machines had a M$ or Windoze label on it. | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I think I mentioned that before around a year or two ago. It's still | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > the case that both trademarks have become a liability. | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > For another example, look at the silver sponsors of this conference: | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2017/ | May 29 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ieee-security.org | IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy 2017 | May 29 11:59 | |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > Notice M$ is trying to shrink its visibility while attempting to | May 29 11:59 |
| liberty_box_ | > increase influence. | May 29 11:59 |
| liberty_box_ | 2 days ago we went to 5 computer store s here. None had GNU/Linux or even CHromebooks. But that depends on the country. | May 29 11:59 |
| liberty_box_ | https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/869145237490470912 | May 29 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@debexpert: @schestowitz XD | May 29 11:59 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://gitlab.com/esr/open-adventure I guess you have seen this? | May 29 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eric S. Raymond / open-adventure · GitLab | May 29 12:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869164832141987842 | May 29 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/5/2017: Another #Linux RC, #Enlightenment 0.21.8 | May 29 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released https://t.co/fHsuGuda81 (techrights.org) … | May 29 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 13:17 | |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/dDVns.gif | May 29 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/debian_stretch_omits_secure_boot/ | May 29 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Secure Boot booted from Debian 9 'Stretch' • The Register | May 29 20:47 | |
| DaemonFC | So basically every computer made now will not boot to Debian without user intervention. | May 29 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what their plan is if Secure Boot can't be turned off at some point and they don't boot at all. | May 29 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Not that I agree with what Ubuntu did either. | May 29 20:49 |
| MinceR | they'll buy windows, obviously | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | they swallowed systemd with joy | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | they swallowed Restricted Boot with joy | May 29 20:51 |
| MinceR | they'll swallow windows with joy | May 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | They enforce Secure Boot down to the kernel level, so you can't addd your own unsigned modules unless you add a Machine Owner's Key to shim. | May 29 20:51 |
| MinceR | yet they somehow expect me to pay for that appliance and to buy electricity and internet access for it | May 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | But the problem with that is that malware that manages to elevate its privileges could just add its own signing key to shim and then load a malicious kernel module. | May 29 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC | So, you might as well only enforce secure boot until you get to grub. | May 29 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | From a security viewpoint. | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | you might as well never enforce secure boot | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It gets worse. | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | it always does | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | it's the specialty of our species | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you turn off Secure Boot, Ubuntu and Fedora COMPLAIN on boot that they are booting in insecure mode. | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wart. It leaves a line in your system log. That's about all. | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I can't see any reason why a user would want to leave it on and allow Microsoft to decide whether to keep signing shim or not. | May 29 20:54 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows enforces Secure Boot now. It won't start up at all without it unless you already had Secure Boot off when you installed a version of Windows 10 that didn't enforce that. | May 29 20:55 |
| MinceR | well, of course | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | It just prints to the screen a thing that tells you to go into your BIOS and turn Secure Boot back on. | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | canonical and red hat serve m$ now | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | they're licking asatya nadella's boots | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | i can't see any reason why a user would want to run ubuntu or fedora | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty soon, the only way to run either of them will be as apps from the Windows Store. | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | or debian8, for that matter | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then they'll be kicked out of there too. | May 29 20:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 29 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I see, a few years down the road..... | May 29 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | "We're discontinuing support for the Windows Subsystem for Linux, but don't worry. Here are some Visual Studio plug-ins to convert your apps to the Universal Windows Platform. | May 29 20:59 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 20:59 |
| MinceR | and for the super low price of $99/year, you'll even get to run the resulting binaries! | May 29 21:00 |
| MinceR | (may be revoked at any time) | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | They've been inching closer to that. | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S is a trial balloon to see if they can get people to accept that. | May 29 21:00 |
| MinceR | as are iphones | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It may reach a point where I *have* to buy a Macbook. | May 29 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I know, I know. Too expensive....Barf... Why? | May 29 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | You go to a Linux dev conference these days and upwards of 70% are using Macbooks. | May 29 21:01 |
| MinceR | i suspect crApple will lock crapbooks down in lockstep with m$ | May 29 21:01 |
| MinceR | well yeah, the industry is full of amateurs who have no clue what they're doing | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | It's reached the point where it's all the people who are building Linux are really doing a great job to support, because they use it themselves. | May 29 21:02 |
| MinceR | it shows everywhere | May 29 21:02 |
| MinceR | most of our software is garbage and most of our hardware is garbage | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then you report a problem with your PC laptop and none of them care. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Or they attack you. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Or they make excuses for Microsoft and Intel. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:03 |
| MinceR | we'll have to start building our own cpus | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be getting there. | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well start setting back some money and getting ready to massively overpay for a System76? | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then it's their job to make sure Ubuntu works. I might not stick to Ubuntu, but if Ubuntu works, most any distro should. | May 29 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Or one of those Dell XPS laptops. Might go that route next time. | May 29 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting back to the bad old days when you have to restrict yourself to known good configurations or it's unlikely to run Linux at all, and that's due to UEFI, bad OEMs like Lenovo, etc. | May 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | And there they were telling us that UEFI wasn't an assault on Linux, and it's been nothing but that. | May 29 21:06 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make sure lendows works but no unixes do | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | It was almost impossible to find a PC with a legacy BIOS that wouldn't run Linux. | May 29 21:06 |
| MinceR | and we get to start the fight over for laptops that can run unix | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe there were bugs, but you add some hardware quirks and it's good again. | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if those Surface laptops with Windows 10 S will be restricted to Windows. | May 29 21:07 |
| MinceR | probably | May 29 21:07 |
| MinceR | it's m$, after all | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying 80/20 on that. On one hand, up until now MSFT has been pretty liberal on what you can run on your Surface and most of the problems were just that there was a new piece of hardware. Like you needed a touchpad driver or something. | May 29 21:08 |
| MinceR | and they'll probably be garbage quality like before | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | On the other, it's subsidized hardware now, and they really really want you to py for the Windows upgrade that lets you use it as a general purpose computer again. | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wait and see approach. | May 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm done buying hardware and then fighting shitty OEMs later. | May 29 21:09 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just let someone else step in it and see what a google search turns out. | May 29 21:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/869285201138122752 | May 29 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 29/5/2017: Another #Linux RC, #Enlightenment 0.21.8 | May 29 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief Released https://t.co/fHsuGuda81 (techrights.org) … | May 29 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #techrights | May 29 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/#bottom-comments | May 29 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qxq03 ] | May 29 21:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why do I get the impression that Wayland is turning into LightDM redux? | May 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | "It's really really light and thin.....Oh, and now every compositor that wants to talk with it has to implement all these things that X11 already took care of." | May 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems more like shifting development hassle away from the Wayland devs and to everyone who wants to make a window manager. | May 29 21:30 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | It also means that without standard core features provided by Wayland, that everyone is going to implement those features with their own code, and you'll get crazy bugs that only crop up when you use a certain window manager, which would have been easier to track down and kill with X. | May 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Wayland is more like a thin wrapper thatt handles "the last mile", but it shifts complexity out to everyone else and creates a lot of work there. | May 29 21:31 |
| MinceR | don't worry, gnome will get it all done, all wrong, and they'll try all the tricks in m$'s book to force it on you | May 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | So, the bigger projects like GNOME and KDE will have native Wayland support, but the smaller ones will tell you to load Wayland and talk between Wayland and their window manager with XWayland. | May 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | s/done/half done/ | May 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | and the bigger projects will also depend on systemd :> | May 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | And even though XWayland was supposed to be "at least as fast" as using X directly now, and "maybe faster" and "certainly with less tearing", people are finding out that (a) They lose performance with Wayland directly and they lose more performance with XWayland talking to Wayland, (b) Wine using XWayland makes video games unplayable and doesn't let you turn off vsync, (c) either way, they have to log out and use a "GNOME on X" session. | May 29 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and Wayland broke some of my hotkeys for some reason and nobody is sure why. | May 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | so it's far from stable -- which means it's the perfect time to force it on all users! | May 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | right, red hat supporters? :> | May 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Bonus: the GNOME Wayland session is horribly unstable on Fedora 26. Crashes every few minutes. Caused four delays already. | May 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, By the time they get it working well enough that a stable operating system might be interested in using it, it'll be about 6 years since the first code commit and like two distributions will be using it by default, both with fallbacks. | May 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and you'll only be able to use it with GNOME because KDE on Wayland is roughly where GNOME was last year. | May 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | So much for their "thin wrapper". | May 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland is turning out to be as much of a disaster as the early days of Pulseaudio. | May 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | It ust doesn't handle the use cases that they said it would, so nobody wants to ship it except Fedora, which ships broken stuff all the time. | May 29 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.24 | May 29 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/GNOME3.24 - FedoraProject | May 29 21:43 | |
| DaemonFC | one of the new features is "browse as root" in the file manager | May 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty sure that Konquerer and Nautilus could do that 20 years ago. | May 29 21:44 |
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| MinceR | :> | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | but won't that option confuse users? | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | like the print dialog options did? | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/logical-fallacies | May 29 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Logical Fallacies | May 29 21:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, According to the interview about why X waas bad, it came up that it used to have its own print server. | May 29 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | It was removed after someone added printing support to glxgears, | May 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 22:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives https://t.co/voMoqeO0uN | May 29 22:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Nothing says better, I'm not Prime...' | May 29 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "Wayland is already in need of extensions to provide functionality that X11 offered by design out of the box. A “clean, fresh start, designed with the requirements of the current decade in mind” that needs extensions before it even gets off the launching pad is hardly what I would call a good design." | May 29 22:22 |
| MinceR | well, modularity would be nice | May 29 22:23 |
| MinceR | but putting one half of the window manager in the display server and the other in the gui toolkit is not modularity | May 29 22:23 |
| MinceR | it's just bad design | May 29 22:24 |
| MinceR | but at least that could be fixed without too much fuss | May 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I get that X11 is becoming a pain though. One of the developers said there's only 3 people who really understand xinput and he wishes he wasn't one of them. | May 29 22:25 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1 | May 29 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland - Phoronix | May 29 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I) We've spent the last 10 years or so “fixing” the X server by wrapping it in more and more extensions and plugins. Problem with that though is...X only has minimal versioning support in its extension system. | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | A) Versioning is handled per client, not per bind. So if your app supports one version of a given extension but your toolkit supports another, you can't predict which version of that extension you will get. | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | B) Theoretical example: Rekonq supports Xinput 2.2. Kdelibs support Xinput 2.0, Flash plugin only supports Core X11...all of those things are gonna fight over what version of Input “Rekonq” supports and in the end you're gonna get one version to support everything...may not be the version that EVERYTHING supports though. | May 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | FIGHT! | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | FINISH HIM! | May 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | FLAWLESS VICTORY! | May 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I assume that was probably what caused Rekonq to crash so much when I was trying to use it with Flash. | May 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | could be | May 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | could also be flash being garbage | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | There's that. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | For a long time, I had to use that nspluginwrapper thing on it to bridge the 32-bit Flash plugin to 64-bit Firefox. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | That was a nightmare. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | And it tried to wrap every npapi plugin it could find too, including the ones that it wasn't compatible with. | May 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I used to have to do all kinds of horrible things to make Linux work, like ndiswrapper. | May 29 22:31 |
| MinceR | i didn't | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | I had a wifi chipset that only had a Windows XP driver. | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | So to use it, I had to install ndiswrapper and use the Windows XP driver on Linux. | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | It was surprisingly stable considering... | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of annoying to try to set up a new Linux install with no wifi driver though. | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | It would be impossible on this laptop without an ethernet dongle. | May 29 22:33 |
| MinceR | i never had such garbage chipsets | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the original Fedora 25 installer shipped before the kernel had a wifi driver. | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | So if you load the original installer disk, you won't have a driver and have no way to get on the internet. | May 29 22:34 |
| MinceR | what's worse, you'll end up with fedora | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | The distributions should probably go grab all of the new wifi chipset drivers from the latest kernel and include them. | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's actually why the staging tree is built by default in most distributions. | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually better to have a staging tree driver than none at all. | May 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Everything that ends up in Fedora ends up everywhere else later. | May 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | And if it doesn't, they'll make sure that things break in the distributions that refuse it. | May 29 22:36 |
| MinceR | those things are to be avoided, then | May 29 22:37 |
| MinceR | for they are cancer. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Gobbling up the whole world and forcing it to depend on systemd, for example. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile takeover. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | They even end up fforcing their software into Ubuntu, sooner or later. | May 29 22:37 |
| MinceR | not difficult | May 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Everything that Ubuntu was working on is now officially dead. | May 29 22:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately except for ubuntu | May 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I tried saying that none of it would be sustainable a few years back when I filed a bunch of bugs against libindicators. | May 29 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | The track record of distributions going it alone with their own software is pretty bad. | May 29 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it's something small, like a file manager. | May 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | except for ratcrap, apparently | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | ratcrap? | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, Flatpak? | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | That's an interesting project, I think. | May 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | way too much cancer to list | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak works around dependency hell and lets you simply install software. | May 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | And the software keeps working even if you change distributions or upgrade or whatever. | May 29 22:41 |
| MinceR | provided that you have systemd | May 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's been previous attempts at doing this. | May 29 22:41 |
| MinceR | at which point the whole thing is pointless | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to use the implementation of said software that is built into systemd | May 29 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Well, every major distribution has systemd at this point. | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | or into the kernel | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | yes, every lendows distribution has it | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | and none of them matter | May 29 22:42 |
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| MinceR | if i wanted to run a huge unreliable unsecire black box full of back doors, i'd just run winblows | May 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Devuan will eventualyl cease to exist. | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | There will be a point where they are maintaining too many forks and give up. | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | depends on how many unix users remain | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | and if there aren't enough to keep gnu/linux alive, then we'll keep some bsd alive | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | That's the whole point of gobbling up hundreds of pieces of software and making the upstream only work with systemd. | May 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | and that's what didn't work with windows | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think that even the BSDs will give up sooner or later. | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's more likely that systemd just ends up being ported to them. | May 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | then i'll run outdated unix | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | there's a reason i stopped using windows as much as i could | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | giving the same atrocious design a different name won't change that | May 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think they're in better shape to fight this though, because they maintain a lot of their own stuff to avoid the GPL. | May 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe some Linux distributions start using the BSD stuff. | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | and before these retards came over from winblows and brought their moronic culture with them, gnu/linux users understood that | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | and i doubt those users ceased to exist | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | maybe they don't realize how broken lendows is yet, but eventually they will | May 29 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wouldn't take that for granted. | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | switching OSes once didn't make the desire to use a fundamentally unfucked system go away | May 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The Steam User Survey lines up against browser stats shows that 90% (if not more) Linux users are heavily concentrated between Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSuSE. | May 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | But mostly Ubuntu. | May 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | > u know the worst part about being a pedophile? fitting in. | May 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | that 90% is probably the clueless part | May 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu became the de facto Linux distribution because it provided a coherent setup at a time when there really wasn't one. | May 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | It took years for Debian to even have a Live installer disc, and it still won't boot unless you can turn Secure Boot off. | May 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The more things you have to stop and explain to the user, the more likely they are to just use Windows. | May 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora and Debian refuse to play files and won't tell you what you need to make them work. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Average user says: "Well this sucks." and goes away. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Now, Richard Stallman says that "advertising non-free software is bad", but really most of what you need these days isn't non-free, it's just patented in some countries. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Those patents aren't going to expire for decades, and when they do, there will be something else, if there isn't already. | May 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | For example, h.264, AAC, h.265. | May 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | There are free implementations, but US patents stop them from being easy to distribute. | May 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | That's one reason why I was glad that Trump stopped the TPP. Hopefully, whatever "free trade" deal the other members sign doesn't recognize the US "IP" laws TPP was designed to push on them. | May 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Now that the US isn't involved, there's no reason to entertain that. | May 29 22:53 |
| MinceR | ubuntu is garbage, fedora is garbage and as of version 8, debian is garbage too | May 29 22:54 |
| MinceR | windows always was garbage, people got tired of it | May 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm probably going to install Kubuntu, but I haven't made up my mind yet. | May 29 22:54 |
| MinceR | people will get tired of their computer failing to boot and/or shut down | May 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I like staying close to Ubuntu for the compatibility. | May 29 22:55 |
| MinceR | i like staying close to unix for the sanity | May 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if Ubuntu GNOME will get an upgrade file that turns it into Ubuntu proper in the next version. | May 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3139812/laptop-computers/after-protest-lenovo-brings-linux-compatibility-to-yoga-900-and-900s.html | May 29 22:56 |
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| DaemonFC | This is a Linux-only BIOS, meaning it should be used only by those who want to load the OS. If you want to continue with Windows, do not load the firmware. “This BIOS is not intended to be used on machines running Windows operating systems,” Lenovo said. | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | It can be. About the only difference is it unhides ACHI in Storage Controller Mode. | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo made it difficult to install though. You have to enable BIOS backflash first, because otherwise it tells you it's an older BIOS and won't install it. | May 29 22:58 |
| MinceR | yeah, but they still want to scare users away from it | May 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | By implying it'll blow up your computer if you install it. | May 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'll probably just use Kubuntu. Other than some minor nits, like scaling issues, it seems to work okay. | May 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | HiDPI displays in Linux still seem to be problematic. | May 29 23:08 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Now I laugh whenever I think of Fedora because of that stupid song. | May 29 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hun. | May 29 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869315154864820224 | May 29 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #JavaScript, #PHP, and #GCC | May 29 23:13 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE | May 29 23:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Looks like with Kubuntu, my CPU package never gets out of pc2. At least in the live environment. | May 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora gets to pc8. Same major kernel versions. | May 30 00:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Just another gentle reminder: starting this weekend (back | May 30 00:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | home) @tuxmachines will handle most of the #gnu #linux | May 30 00:22 |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, you have to be more accurate... | May 30 00:34 |
| cubexyz | what you really mean is Fedora is garbage _now_ | May 30 00:34 |
| cubexyz | FC1 was pretty good | May 30 00:35 |
| cubexyz | also redhat 8 and redhat 9 were decent | May 30 00:36 |
| oiaohm | FC4-FC5 is when fedora started turning into a heavy test bed. | May 30 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is hit or miss. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | They finally got the distribution upgrade thing to work right from what I've read. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | That only took forever. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, some people only had problems because of AtRPMs or something, which clobbers system files and tends to create conflicts when you dist-upgrade | May 30 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | I may load up whatever fb I need for the slack box | May 30 00:42 |
| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-backspace and then stuck in an unresponsive console :-/ | May 30 00:43 |
| cubexyz | and I see that's been a problem for slack for a while now | May 30 00:43 |
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| cubexyz | I wonder if it's just "modprobe intelfb" | May 30 00:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe I'll just telinit 3 intead | May 30 00:57 |
| cubexyz | I used to just "init 3" | May 30 00:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@trevortimm: Nothing says "let's celebrate the First Amendment!" like "please don't criticize the president who wants to see us… https://t.co/7ZJWMwuo3I | May 30 01:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@trevortimm: Nothing says "let's celebrate the First Amendment!" like "please don't criticize the president who wants to see us… https://t.co/7ZJWMwuo3I | May 30 01:00 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, fbset --info says "inteldrmfb" | May 30 01:03 |
| cubexyz | so maybe that's not even a LKM | May 30 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | May 30 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | ok, then I'll just /sbin/telinit 3 from now on | May 30 01:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE / #Qt : Qt 5.9 RC2, #Qbs 1.8, and #FreeBSD KDE | May 30 01:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @wikileaks I'd pay to watch the lawsuit https://t.co/2TnuFivnfj | May 30 01:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869350686743339008 | May 30 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubic Project Announced https://t.co/uGDvq9K3Za | May 30 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #freesw #suse #opensuse | May 30 01:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869352138492616704 | May 30 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SparkyLinux 4.6 to Be Based on #Debian #GNU #Linux 9 | May 30 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Stretch , Will Use Linux 4.11 https://t.co/OmW9JBwGTF | May 30 01:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 to Be Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch," Will Use Linux 4.11 | Tux Machines | May 30 01:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 28-Way #NVIDIA #GeForce GPU Comparison On #Ubuntu : From | May 30 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 https://t.co/IMcJqFQf2n | May 30 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #canonical #gnu #linux #phoronix | May 30 01:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 28-Way NVIDIA GeForce GPU Comparison On Ubuntu: From GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 | Tux Machines | May 30 01:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | IWPR - Craig Murray | May 30 01:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 30 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869425073014185984 | May 30 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in #Techrights https://t.co/1ooyKFLWFG | May 30 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 06:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869441626191446016 | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu / #Debian: #Peppermint 8, #BlackLab Enterprise | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 11, #UbuntuPhone, and Debian/ #TeXLive 2017 | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NlJmqe33aE (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 30 07:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu/Debian: Peppermint 8, Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11, Ubuntu Phone, and Debian/TeX Live 2017 | Tux Machines | May 30 07:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (500MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (13.5 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 69.5 GB / 1.0 TB (941.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Iris Graphics 540 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 13m 12s | May 30 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No more Windows 10 on this computer. | May 30 07:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in #Techrights https://t.co/1ooyKFLWFG | May 30 09:02 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn This, in turn, can create...' | May 30 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869464376692031488 | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Not #backtowork until next week. Looking forward to | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passing most/all #gnu #linux stuff to @tuxmachines | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (better partitioning) #backtowork | May 30 09:05 |
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| MinceR | cubexyz: not sure about that, rpm and whatever they put on top of it probably always sucked | May 30 19:34 |
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| MinceR | -1 | May 30 20:04 |
| MinceR | damn lag | May 30 20:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869656649731940353 | May 30 21:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen Devices, #Applications, and #Games | May 30 21:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux #freesw | May 30 21:50 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix #howto | May 30 21:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux #freesw | May 30 22:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d | May 30 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 30 22:06 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 30 22:09 | |
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| MinceR | >VII) Multi-monitors is a client problem. Same with multiple graphics cards (Optimus). Wayland only wants buffers filled with pixel and to be told where to display them. It doesn't care how they got there. | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | i wonder how that's supposed to work | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | >X) As a security precaution...your screensaver and locker are apart of the compositor. This has an added benefit because your compositor (Eg: kwin) DOES understand your media keys, so even while your screen is locked you can still mute your media. | May 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | bloat | May 30 22:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour https://t.co/PsVq5xWWc6 | May 30 22:39 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbltowcHPX0 | May 30 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @LatuffCartoons @JulianAssange https://t.co/azCM0lO8iq | May 30 22:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869672661319770112 | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 22:52 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app...' | May 30 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as Cobol app moves to x86 Linux | Tux Machines | May 30 22:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869672794002292737 | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 23:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 30 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 30 23:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#WineStaging 2.9 https://t.co/w4Yz3iCz4T #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix...' | May 30 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.9 | Tux Machines | May 30 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/869683919838363649 | May 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #WineStaging 2.9 https://t.co/w4Yz3iCz4T | May 30 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup (tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix | May 30 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #reactos | May 30 23:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869688879212658690 | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz @JulianAssange "video recording with | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | insubordination to the legal demands of the police, and | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mass disorder." https://t.co/4K9HunhG1v (twitter.com) | May 31 00:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-advox.globalvoices.org | Russian Math Instructor Faces Criminal Charges for Online Posts He Says He Didn’t Write - Global Voices Advocacy | May 31 00:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869704264913887232 | May 31 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 31 00:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 31 00:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GTK and GNOME News | Tux Machines | May 31 00:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 31 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 31 01:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869720446819647488 | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 02:02 |
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| cubexyz | had to use enable slimming paint phase 2 on chrome | May 31 03:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869720724990119936 | May 31 03:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 03:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 03:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/demuxer/status/869744326552821760 | May 31 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @demuxer and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 04:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 04:12 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/devgirlzero/status/869754600143937540 | May 31 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 31 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @devgirlzero x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 31 04:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 31 04:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as Cobol app moves to x86 Linux | Tux Machines | May 31 04:55 | |
| cubexyz | http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/12/genius-among-us-sad-story-william-j-sidis/ | May 31 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.todayifoundout.com | A Genius Among Us: The Sad Story of William J. Sidis [ http://ur1.ca/qxuzo ] | May 31 04:55 | |
| cubexyz | practically a greek tragedy :-( | May 31 04:58 |
| cubexyz | I knew it ended badly but I never realized how bad | May 31 04:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 05:39 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Software: Image Editing, OpenShot, FreeTuxTV, Nageru, and Scribus | Tux Machines | May 31 05:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869800208179240960 | May 31 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 07:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 2018 Toyota Camry packs an open-source Linux-based infotainment system | Tux Machines | May 31 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869800361317384192 | May 31 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 07:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based...' | May 31 08:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @2green https://twitter.com/2green/status/869812538233507840 | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Linux Stuff Daily! https://t.co/clvOgTzbPq | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @linuxsound @tuxmachines @katun79 | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #kernel | May 31 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Linux Stuff Daily | May 31 08:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814335031222272 | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux #gaming | May 31 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 08:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/hyWydCjIk6 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | May 31 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 31 08:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814571313360898 | May 31 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ZiWoWlJ57C | May 31 08:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, | May 31 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GitHub, #ScyllaDB, #Gollvm and More | May 31 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Development: Red Hat on Java, Coding Camp, Bitnami, GitHub, ScyllaDB, Gollvm and More | Tux Machines | May 31 08:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 08:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 31 08:18 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869815159836954624 | May 31 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers: #Nokia, #Asus, #YouTube, and | May 31 08:18 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | May 31 08:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers: Nokia, Asus, YouTube, and Android Pay | Tux Machines | May 31 08:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 08:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, #GitHub,...' | May 31 08:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ #gnu #linux' | May 31 08:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers: #Nokia, #Asus, #YouTube, and #AndroidPay https://t.co/GxyOpdDvFb' | May 31 08:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 09:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/sf4X0Ejk3q | May 31 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #youtube #waze #korea | May 31 15:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869923719119949824 | May 31 15:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 15:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts | May 31 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gPZa4W4DNX (tuxmachines.org) #gplv3 #europe | May 31 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #eu #licensing #freesw | May 31 17:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts...' | May 31 18:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MarvinJRees @jeremycorbyn @AngelaRayner https://t.co/RYTmHWDueT' | May 31 18:03 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/auWavpz.jpg | May 31 18:46 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/dd2-19.jpg | May 31 18:50 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/qMWEWaj.gifv | May 31 19:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Questioning may be tough and unfair. Seeing...' | May 31 19:32 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Maybe they'll spend the next 7 years...' | May 31 20:21 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlpddwFq4bg | May 31 20:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870000506231439360 | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 20:35 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and #Kubernetes...' | May 31 20:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ITCrowdsource/status/870002394783916032 | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ITCrowdsource #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 20:49 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @funder @joncoopertweets @JoyAnnReid @justin_kanew @Derry_London @NathanLerner @safeagain1...' | May 31 20:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/870006698521444352 | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 21:01 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Swedes wrongly accused of murder:...' | May 31 21:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870009329864200193 | May 31 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @JulianAssange We came, we saw, he died. | May 31 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/BdO8CijqJX | May 31 21:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #wengerout I mean, #toriesOut https://t.co/1XkQ6AzVlb...' | May 31 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I've hit two weird bugs in Ubuntu so far. | May 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't remember my backlight preferences and to connect to my Bluetooth soundbar I have to do this every boot. | May 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://askubuntu.com/questions/824404/bluetooth-speaker-connected-but-not-listed-in-sound-output | May 31 21:45 |
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| MinceR | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/great-barrier-reef-dying-coral-bleaching-global-warming-australia-climate-change-a7761351.html | May 31 22:05 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Yze4nll.gifv | May 31 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870040937350574080 | May 31 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 23:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870041529473130496 | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 23:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870045224633905152 | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 23:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870045372067880960 | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 23:46 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt ...' | May 31 23:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870049829157609472 | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel' | May 31 23:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870051878385590272 | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | May 31 23:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870052152915378176 | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 01 00:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870054465423810560 | Jun 01 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil | Jun 01 00:10 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil' | Jun 01 00:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870055044787261440 | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian 8.8, | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.04, #CentOS 7, #ClearLinux | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qgNFYU5Hbi (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian...' | Jun 01 00:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870057274256916480 | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | Jun 01 00:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870057350077468672 | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | Jun 01 00:54 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a lot more...' | Jun 01 00:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a...' | Jun 01 01:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do immediately; the...' | Jun 01 01:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do...' | Jun 01 01:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076685537861632 | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference 2017, #RISCV Workshop https://t.co/g2E5GQwczu | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #germany #suse | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076802558853120 | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076940757024768 | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4LnU6eQhxr (tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 01 01:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077044654096384 | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu #howto | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077236996591616 | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud Conference...' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl #linux' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More ...' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO #unix #linux #gnu #howto' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077737544728576 | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077834663927809 | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077969246543872 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hackathon https://t.co/kqwfyR2X9F (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #google #freesw | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078124725227521 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX (tuxmachines.org) #freesw #db | Jun 01 01:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078216010055680 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 01 01:44 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX #freesw...' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jayd_1992 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | Jun 01 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/870079237868453890 | Jun 01 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #unix #linux #gnu #howto | Jun 01 01:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ks 1/6/2017: #KDE #Plasma 5.10, #Qt 5.9 Released | Jun 01 02:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/5L1YVEsdAQ (techrights.org) … #techrights | Jun 01 02:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ks 1/6/2017: #KDE #Plasma 5.10, #Qt 5.9 Released | Jun 01 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/5L1YVEsdAQ (techrights.org) … #techrights | Jun 01 04:00 |
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| cubexyz | neo geo games on gog | Jun 01 04:33 |
| cubexyz | of course mame has that pretty well covered | Jun 01 04:34 |
| cubexyz | gog seems to be the go to place for retro gaming | Jun 01 04:35 |
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| cubexyz | ah, a new term for gates: | Jun 01 04:56 |
| cubexyz | Obscurantist | Jun 01 04:57 |
| cubexyz | i.e. the practise of deliberately preventing the facts becoming known | Jun 01 04:57 |
| cubexyz | that makes Stallman the anti-obscurantist | Jun 01 04:57 |
| cubexyz | ah, and I'm not the first person to make that comment | Jun 01 04:59 |
| cubexyz | Gates: "what emails are you talking about?" | Jun 01 05:00 |
| cubexyz | another big one... AMI | Jun 01 05:01 |
| cubexyz | don't forget it | Jun 01 05:01 |
| cubexyz | the holy sacred bios source code must never be revealed | Jun 01 05:02 |
| cubexyz | Dell isn't any better | Jun 01 05:04 |
| cubexyz | oh, I nagged them for the BIOS source but to no avail | Jun 01 05:04 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 01 07:53 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 01 07:53 |
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| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28270 | Jun 01 10:09 |
| liberty_box | " Some of those apparently referenced ETs. I feel like I'm missing part of the story when I read them." | Jun 01 10:09 |
| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28271 | Jun 01 10:10 |
| liberty_box | "yes yes I know. Ufo buff." | Jun 01 10:10 |
| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1781 | Jun 01 10:17 |
| liberty_box | " Air travel outside the US can still be reasonably nice. I fly a lot, and as long as you choose the right airline it's very nice." | Jun 01 10:17 |
| liberty_box | The airports can be part of the problem and there is rarely any choice for some routes (de facto monopoly, no competition, treat people like dirt) | Jun 01 10:18 |
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| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/johnbarbirolli/status/870209754248892416 | Jun 01 10:26 |
| liberty_box | Negros | Jun 01 10:26 |
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| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1787 | Jun 01 10:28 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jun 01 10:33 |
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| cubexyz | ok, that was painful | Jun 01 16:57 |
| cubexyz | X11R5... nothing compiles | Jun 01 16:57 |
| cubexyz | X11R6... everything compiles | Jun 01 16:57 |
| cubexyz | quite a gap between those two versions... 3 years | Jun 01 17:00 |
| cubexyz | the motifshell is interesting | Jun 01 17:44 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ylk5l | Jun 01 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Opogator - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 18:49 | |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/mRjgM | Jun 01 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Do the Dump de Dump - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 19:03 | |
| MinceR | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/31/donald-trump-mexico-toilet-paper-antonio-battaglia | Jun 01 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | A cheeky idea: Mexican businessman rolls out 'Trump' toilet paper | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/qy1q1 ] | Jun 01 19:55 | |
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| MinceR | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/051/605/903.png | Jun 01 20:25 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/h7UKxCf.jpg | Jun 01 20:31 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/Cye0y | Jun 01 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Destroyed In Seconds - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 20:43 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/2fxbayO.jpg | Jun 01 21:30 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/ai20r | Jun 01 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bought some shoes from a drug dealer today. I don't know what she laced them with but I've been tripping all day. - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 21:33 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/gedankendouche | Jun 01 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Gedankendouche | Jun 01 21:47 | |
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| DaemonFC | xfree86: Remove pre-2.6 Linux ppc support | Jun 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 01 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | That stayed in the X server until October 2014? :P | Jun 01 22:07 |
| MinceR | 2014? that's ancient history | Jun 01 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, So was Linux 2.4 at that time. | Jun 01 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | That's like "So old that probably nobody even knew if it still worked.". | Jun 01 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | What are the chances you'd be running X.org Server 1.15 (the last stable series that had this code) *and* a 2.4 Linux kernel? | Jun 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | If you're using Linux 2.4, you probably have an XFree86 X server. | Jun 01 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | One Ubuntu release used XFree86. That was 4.10 Warty Warthog. | Jun 01 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | The second release switched to X.org. | Jun 01 22:13 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pyAoY9C.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/pjQNY ) | Jun 01 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-King Harald and Queen Sonja of Norway are both celebrating their 80th birthday this year. Therefore I want to commemorate one of their best tv moments. - Album on Imgur | Jun 01 22:19 | |
| MinceR | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/kids | Jun 01 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theoatmeal.com | Why haven't you had kids yet? - The Oatmeal | Jun 01 22:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/85ff62200b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-09 ) | Jun 01 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Robot Attacks Boss - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2017-05-09 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Jun 01 23:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | I understand that Valve has their own port of xpad. | Jun 02 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | So now there are three xbox controller drivers for Linux and they all have their own features and bugs. | Jun 02 00:19 |
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| cubexyz | xautolock hasn't changed since 2007 | Jun 02 05:05 |
| cubexyz | most of X11R6 code will still compile and work... that's 1994 | Jun 02 05:05 |
| cubexyz | before that? no way | Jun 02 05:06 |
| cubexyz | the difficulty of dealing with old code is amplified by how hardware specific it is | Jun 02 05:13 |
| cubexyz | a simple text based program could possibly work fine on Unix v7 from 1979 | Jun 02 05:14 |
| cubexyz | game code? now you're dealing with difficult and era specific problems | Jun 02 05:15 |
| cubexyz | I wanted to fix or at least modernize HOMM3 for linux | Jun 02 05:18 |
| cubexyz | but it seems that there's a new project that recreates it: VCMI | Jun 02 05:19 |
| cubexyz | to be more specific it's actually a recreation of HOMM: WoG (in the wake of the gods) | Jun 02 05:20 |
| cubexyz | VCMI needs the data from HOMM3: WoG to work | Jun 02 05:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I have not had trouble with X11R5 stuff ie 1991 on X11R6 and newer in most cases. | Jun 02 05:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11R4 stuff I am not sure on. | Jun 02 05:32 |
| cubexyz | try compiling X11R5 xclock | Jun 02 05:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: being the user applications not test code. | Jun 02 05:33 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: most cases means that there are a few busts. | Jun 02 05:34 |
| cubexyz | I'll try puzzle... | Jun 02 05:34 |
| cubexyz | ha, that worked although it generated some warnings | Jun 02 05:34 |
| cubexyz | for xclock X11R5 got "error: conflicting types for sys_errlist" | Jun 02 05:35 |
| cubexyz | hold on, I think that was X11R3 actually | Jun 02 05:36 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: this was building from source not attempt to straight up run X11R5 binary on X11R6 | Jun 02 05:36 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised you even looked at X11R5 | Jun 02 05:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: my cases I was using the X11R5 binary as is. | Jun 02 05:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: worse it was for a unix but I was using on Linux using a emulation wrapper. | Jun 02 05:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://linux-abi.sourceforge.net/ this stuff I would not be doing something like this today very often. | Jun 02 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux-abi.sourceforge.net | Linux A.B.I. Homepage | Jun 02 05:40 | |
| cubexyz | that's neat | Jun 02 05:42 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its also a dead project these days. | Jun 02 05:42 |
| cubexyz | most of the stuff I wrote for xenix will compile on Linux though | Jun 02 05:43 |
| cubexyz | and also compile on PDP-11 sysv | Jun 02 05:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: ibcs-3_8.tgz that you find https://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-abi/files/linux-abi-2.6/ is able to use xenix binaries on Linux. | Jun 02 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux ABI Project - Browse /linux-abi-2.6 at SourceForge.net | Jun 02 05:44 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: but it would require updating. | Jun 02 05:45 |
| cubexyz | I think I might have tweaked it a little... added #include <stdlib.h> and #include <string.h> | Jun 02 05:45 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: think of this is wine for unix crap. | Jun 02 05:45 |
| cubexyz | but that's it | Jun 02 05:45 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Jun 02 05:45 |
| cubexyz | well there was PDP-11 for Vax way before wine... and probably many other examples | Jun 02 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Note the last update is 2009 so its been a while since I have been using it. | Jun 02 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Most of these tools disappear out of usage when all the applications that major businesses need have been ported. | Jun 02 05:47 |
| oiaohm | Of course PDP-11 emulators are still going strong. | Jun 02 05:47 |
| cubexyz | that's the guy who sued VMware | Jun 02 05:51 |
| cubexyz | Christoph Hellwig... I've seen the name before | Jun 02 05:51 |
| cubexyz | I don't know anyone that runs Xenix now | Jun 02 05:58 |
| cubexyz | I thought Unix v7 was a lot more interesting | Jun 02 05:59 |
| cubexyz | that's the real basis for Xenix anyway | Jun 02 05:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: scary enough there were people running Xenix in 2009 | Jun 02 06:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: for business tasks. | Jun 02 06:00 |
| cubexyz | Radio Shack used to use it back in the day | Jun 02 06:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you still find some places still using dos. | Jun 02 06:01 |
| cubexyz | if it does the job... | Jun 02 06:01 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/87dfde100b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-10 ) | Jun 02 09:09 |
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| MinceR | http://style.org/unladenswallow/ | Jun 02 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow | style.org | Jun 02 11:36 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really studies like that show how little we really know about nature. | Jun 02 13:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: back home | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you send irc logs at your time of convenience (not urgent at all) | Jun 02 15:51 |
| zoobab_ | pong | Jun 02 15:52 |
| zoobab_ | I think I saw the Bundesrat moving on UPC this week | Jun 02 15:53 |
| zoobab_ | so it is time to work on an appeal in DE | Jun 02 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't have time at the moment | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | will watch your feed | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | I was away from home 18 days | Jun 02 16:07 |
| zoobab_ | holidays? | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cubexyz et al: did someone relates to EPO say something in this channel in past 3 weeks? | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Or looked for me specifically, e.g. regarding new info/leak? | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't able to keep up | Jun 02 16:16 |
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| gde33 | MinceR: I talk with a guy driving a train one time about the amount of animals killed by rail traffic per day. He said all speed estimates of all bird species are wrong. He regularly chased birds with speeds up to 120 km/h and some just manage to fly away in the face of imminent death. | Jun 02 20:30 |
| gde33 | He regularly saw a variaty of small birds hit 140 | Jun 02 20:31 |
| gde33 | then when he looked up the species he got figures like in the article 24 mph | Jun 02 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #nokia #aosp #google | Jun 02 21:45 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and #GearFit | Jun 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PHvHJN3Jtt (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung | Jun 02 21:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Toyota 's Linux #Love in the News | Jun 02 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zX67MlCytl (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 02 22:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toyota's Linux Love in the News | Tux Machines | Jun 02 22:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Some more Lenovo laptops locked to RAID | Jun 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Ideapad-710S-Plus-13IKB-not-just-710s-13IKB-BIOS-supporting-AHCI/td-p/3645033 | Jun 02 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Ideapad 710S Plus-13IKB (not just 710s-13IKB), BIOS supporting AHCI mode and LINUX installation. - Lenovo Community | Jun 02 22:09 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/RAID-lock-again-on-Miix-720/td-p/3667864 | Jun 02 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | RAID lock again on Miix 720 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9un ] | Jun 02 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: as before? | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly as before, schestowitz | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, one guy says they just deleted his post about it completely. | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/No-Linux-BIOS-for-ideapad-710S-quot-Plus-13IKB-quot/td-p/3586694 | Jun 02 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: No Linux BIOS for ideapad 710S "Plus-13IKB" - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9uv ] | Jun 02 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | "I had posted this problem to the thread in this February, and my message disappeared after few days. I'm not accusing the admin removed my post, but it just disappeared. | Jun 02 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Jun 02 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Lenovo is reluctant to release Linux BIOS. Why not purchasing laptop from other vendor? I refunded the ideapad and bought ASUS ZenBook UX410UQ. It has a similar spec, a lower cost, a normal right Shift key, and Linux can be installed in a breeze. " | Jun 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | keep on eye on this for updates | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | let's bring some heat | Jun 02 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 02 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 02 22:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Toyota 's Linux #Love in the News | Jun 02 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/zX67MlCytl (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 02 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #driving #infotainment #freesw | Jun 02 22:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | " #BitKey is a #Debian -based live distribution" | Jun 02 22:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 02 22:32 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @debexpert retweeted @tuxmachines: '" #BitKey is a #Debian -based live distribution"...' | Jun 02 22:35 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I might try out Fedora 26. No Beta release yet but there's a nightly image that should be pretty close. | Jun 02 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard it's pretty stable already. GNOME Software accidentally upgraded one guy to the Alpha and he said he used it for weeks before realizing it. | Jun 02 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME has gotten pretty good, actually. I don't know why they don't ship it with the desktop shell extensions on. | Jun 02 22:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Security News: #Pandemic for #Microsoft #Windows, | Jun 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #WannaCry, and #Linux 'Flaw' https://t.co/f2SOYoftqN | Jun 02 22:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #samba #smb #cia #vault7 #nsa | Jun 02 22:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security News: “Pandemic” for Windows, WannaCry, and Linux 'Flaw' | Tux Machines | Jun 02 22:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Security News: #Pandemic for #Microsoft #Windows, | Jun 02 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #WannaCry, and #Linux 'Flaw' https://t.co/f2SOYoftqN | Jun 02 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #samba #smb #cia #vault7 #nsa | Jun 02 22:53 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 03 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux | Jun 03 01:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/vzzz41tHrQ | Jun 03 02:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #androidpay #linux | Jun 03 02:06 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/vzzz41tHrQ #android #linux #androidpay #linux' | Jun 03 02:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #BodhiLinux 4.2.0 #Ubuntu -based operating system now | Jun 03 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available https://t.co/l9KAPCdc7i (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 03 03:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 03 03:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Linux 4.2.0 Ubuntu-based operating system now available | Tux Machines | Jun 03 03:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SMaurizi @ronwyden and @MarkUdall have it. Moral...' | Jun 03 03:29 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RileyBrandt : How do you Fedora? | Jun 03 03:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/MnaUQgnOyr (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 03 03:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 03 03:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Riley Brandt: How do you Fedora? | Tux Machines | Jun 03 03:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870831372088340482 | Jun 03 03:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tiny i.MX6 UL module loves Android Things | Jun 03 03:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/0QUpC7QpFC (www.tuxmachines.org) #android | Jun 03 03:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 03:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny i.MX6 UL module loves Android Things | Tux Machines | Jun 03 03:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#BodhiLinux 4.2.0 #Ubuntu -based operating system now available...' | Jun 03 03:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RileyBrandt : How do you Fedora? https://t.co/MnaUQgnOyr...' | Jun 03 03:37 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny i.MX6 UL module loves Android Things https://t.co/0QUpC7QpFC...' | Jun 03 03:41 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, more thoughts percolating about UEFI... | Jun 03 04:23 |
| cubexyz | we can safely say there are offerings from HP and Lenovo which are hostile | Jun 03 04:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-hostile-bios.txt | Jun 03 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/870834210633904128 | Jun 03 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #RileyBrandt : How do you Fedora? | Jun 03 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 https://t.co/MnaUQgnOyr (www.tuxmachines.org) #fedora | Jun 03 04:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 03 04:24 |
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| cubexyz | ASUS P8Z68-V had a good feature... none of this windows-only or dos-floppy rubbish for BIOS updates | Jun 03 04:37 |
| cubexyz | .rom file on a USB stick and off you go | Jun 03 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Booting to DOS was how I upgraded the BIOS on that Foxconn motherboard, in 2008... :P | Jun 03 04:43 |
| cubexyz | ok, on one machine I got free-dos but still... I wouldn't want to have to use that for BIOS updates | Jun 03 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | I made a boot USB stick with FreeDOS and put the BIOS update in a folder. | Jun 03 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Not convenient, but better than installing Windows to update the BIOS. | Jun 03 04:45 |
| cubexyz | ASUS has a thing they called Flashback | Jun 03 04:45 |
| cubexyz | you don't even need CPU or memory to use it | Jun 03 04:46 |
| cubexyz | But... | Jun 03 04:46 |
| cubexyz | the USB stick does have to be formatted for FAT or NTFS | Jun 03 04:47 |
| cubexyz | of course that is using an UEFI BIOS | Jun 03 04:49 |
| cubexyz | not really ideal... but still an improvement | Jun 03 04:51 |
| cubexyz | in coreboot-land we have the flashrom utility | Jun 03 04:56 |
| cubexyz | so assuming you have a working coreboot rom file you can just update the BIOS from linux | Jun 03 04:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fat is licensed to be used for UEFI stuff without charge. | Jun 03 04:59 |
| cubexyz | ah but you still pay the BIOS tax | Jun 03 05:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: no Microsoft licensed it for free for UEFI to prevent ext4 from being used. | Jun 03 05:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SMARC module and dev kit run Linux on dual-core Renesas SoC | Tux Machines | Jun 03 05:01 | |
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| cubexyz | American Megatrends still gets paid | Jun 03 05:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel threatened to write either ext4 of udf into the spec if there was going to be licensing costs. | Jun 03 05:01 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: neither windows supports well on harddrives. | Jun 03 05:01 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I spread around your pist | Jun 03 05:01 |
| schestowitz | (post also) | Jun 03 05:01 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, what I mean is that the BIOS company is still paid by whoever makes the motherboard | Jun 03 05:02 |
| cubexyz | AMI or whoever it is | Jun 03 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870852784517677057 | Jun 03 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #SMARC module and dev kit run #Linux on dual-core | Jun 03 05:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Renesas SoC https://t.co/8aVFeLyBgI | Jun 03 05:02 |
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| cubexyz | there are a few (very few) special cases that use coreboot but it's rare | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: using intel reference UEFI they don't have to pay either. | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations | Jun 03 05:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NHWwdHq3dg (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.tianocore.org/ intels reference UEFI implementation. | Jun 03 05:04 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I don't understand why so many motherboard makers are paying third parties. | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870853512539906048 | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/p84JjXFxDl (www.linux.com) #gnu #linux | Jun 03 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jun 03 05:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations...' | Jun 03 05:05 | |
| cubexyz | writing a BIOS is kind of hard | Jun 03 05:06 |
| cubexyz | much easier (although not ideal) to license from AMI or Phoenix or whoever is still around | Jun 03 05:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I understood it when intel and amd were not providing functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 05:06 |
| cubexyz | there's something up with Intel EDAC as well... | Jun 03 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Things have changed there are functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 05:07 |
| cubexyz | I heard some people complain about that | Jun 03 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.ft.com/content/71d92114-4704-11e7-8519-9f94ee97d996 | Jun 03 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Jun 03 05:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Not good for users. | Jun 03 05:07 |
| cubexyz | it's TRON all over again :-/ | Jun 03 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's Google's plan to paywall the entire web. | Jun 03 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | And good luck getting the former Verizon lawyer at the FCC to do anything about it. | Jun 03 05:09 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't balk at paying for Scientific American | Jun 03 05:14 |
| cubexyz | I bought a ton of magazines back in the day | Jun 03 05:14 |
| cubexyz | 60 bucks a month is expensive though | Jun 03 05:15 |
| cubexyz | All access (access all the way back to 1845) is $99 | Jun 03 05:19 |
| cubexyz | per year I think that is | Jun 03 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | I just feel like it's nickel and diming. | Jun 03 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | And you know that Google's idea of acceptable ads will still have a lot of the shit that drove people to use ad blockers. | Jun 03 05:22 |
| cubexyz | well the ads everywhere are annoying, yes | Jun 03 05:23 |
| cubexyz | during a hockey game they even show full screen ads during the game broadcast | Jun 03 05:29 |
| cubexyz | if there's a timeout | Jun 03 05:29 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is always the problem. Hardware that supports the internet does cost money to keep operating | Jun 03 05:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: same with TV and everything else. | Jun 03 05:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/commerciallength.htm | Jun 03 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.waynesthisandthat.com | Growth of TV Time taken up by Commercials | Jun 03 05:36 | |
| cubexyz | it keeps getting worse, although it did seem to improve slightly or at least reached a maximum of 33% | Jun 03 05:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need to look at TV show cost of production. | Jun 03 05:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you have to remember 1952 the people in the shows were getting very low wages and the operating costs were quite low. | Jun 03 05:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so as the cost to produce the shows have gone up so has the volume of advertisement gone up. | Jun 03 05:40 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: cost of productions started leveling out in 2001 as well. | Jun 03 05:42 |
| cubexyz | it's reached a saturation point I'd say | Jun 03 05:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_96_%28TV_series%29 think about the insanity of this show from 1973 | Jun 03 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Number 96 (TV series) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qybnb ] | Jun 03 05:43 | |
| cubexyz | run more ads now, you'll lose part of the audience | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it was recorded and broadcast live with only 3 camera. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: any goof went straight to air. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you don't see shows like that any more. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| cubexyz | there's still live tv | Jun 03 05:45 |
| cubexyz | weather, sports etc | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | To be correct most on a time delay these days. | Jun 03 05:45 |
| cubexyz | that is true | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Why you see rapid cut to adds at times of operated are awake. | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Also if you watch advertisement counts they go down in the news and the like. | Jun 03 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Because they are lower cost productions. | Jun 03 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Our TV adverisement problem is mostly being addicted to highly expensive to produce programs to watch. | Jun 03 05:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: here in Australia we have a SBS channel they don't put advertisement slots in shows. Only advertisement at start and end and choose lower cost to produce productions to make every balance out. | Jun 03 05:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so a lower advertisement channels can be done. | Jun 03 05:49 |
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| cubexyz | I can't really recall 1970s australian tv shows | Jun 03 07:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe Mission Magic? Did they show that in Australia? | Jun 03 07:02 |
| cubexyz | old cartoon, had Rick Springfield in it | Jun 03 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Golden Girls - Wikipedia | Jun 03 07:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Best Retro Gaming Emulators for Linux | Jun 03 07:22 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: 1970 australia light on cartoons you lots of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_Productions Crawfords Productions stuff. | Jun 03 07:44 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I think it was you who mentioned about https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ This is kind of wrong to blame lenovo the issue is a Intel made raid controller. | Jun 03 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 03 07:47 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Linux still does not support a particular feature. | Jun 03 07:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that mode uses the SSD as a cache to the hdd. | Jun 03 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well done, it's gaining traction | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | and Lenovo won't be loving this | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | they need to check which components they choose | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | need to rid themselves of that lasting impression of "Microsoft First" or "Microsoft Only" | Jun 03 07:56 |
| schestowitz | ThinkPads were all about choice when they took over | Jun 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, There is no HDD. | Jun 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | These systems are SSD only. | Jun 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | Really fast. | Jun 03 08:11 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the mode I mentioned. It can operate without hdd as well. | Jun 03 08:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that raid mode allowed bipassing a stack of poor performing optimisations in windows. | Jun 03 08:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It would be interesting if Linux had access to the same mode if it would provide the performance boosts as it does under windows. | Jun 03 08:19 |
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| cubexyz | ppfftt, come on | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | it's all just software... | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | nothing magical or better about windows | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | we can complain about obscurantism though | Jun 03 09:10 |
| cubexyz | since that's all that's holding Linux et all back | Jun 03 09:10 |
| cubexyz | but I find it amusing that Sony made Linux TVs | Jun 03 09:11 |
| cubexyz | rather than pay $$$ to their hated rival | Jun 03 09:11 |
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| cubexyz | even more amusing... Bell used Linux PVRs | Jun 03 09:13 |
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| cubexyz | hard drive had an ext2 partition... they figured people would find it harder to copy the files off of it | Jun 03 09:14 |
| cubexyz | of course, you have to remove the hard drive from the unit' | Jun 03 09:14 |
| cubexyz | btw channel master PVR's used the same thing | Jun 03 09:18 |
| cubexyz | EXT file system | Jun 03 09:18 |
| cubexyz | and you can use an external hard drive with it :) | Jun 03 09:19 |
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| schestowitz | What publication method best nowadays? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Microblogging (many posts)? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Several short blog posts? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Few very detailed articles? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I want change... | Jun 03 19:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming | Jun 03 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | early June https://t.co/xlIXTjlbum (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 03 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming early June | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/871077783216300032 | Jun 03 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | How the #Moby Project Pivots Docker’s Open Source | Jun 03 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Business Model https://t.co/CPpmy7WnGY | Jun 03 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker #freesw #server | Jun 03 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How the Moby Project Pivots Docker’s Open Source Business Model | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Predictive Policing and Software Freedom: Should the | Jun 03 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Police Use Open Source? https://t.co/USnbYfdXCa | Jun 03 20:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #police #freesw #accountability | Jun 03 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Predictive Policing and Software Freedom: Should the Police Use Open Source? | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jun 03 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 12-Way #RadeonSI #OpenGL Comparison vs. #NVIDIA On | Jun 03 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics #benchmark #radeon | Jun 03 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Cypersmart Business Model https://t.co/CPpmy7WnGY | Jun 03 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker #freesw #server | Jun 03 20:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #TrueOS STABLE Update: June 2, 2017 | Jun 03 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/leN3evusjO (www.tuxmachines.org) #pcsbd | Jun 03 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #bsd | Jun 03 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueOS STABLE Update: June 2, 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/871096151050784768 | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 51 GPUs Tested, From The #Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fury: Testing The 2017 Driver Stack | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6I6lN14G7V (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 51 GPUs Tested, From The Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 Fury: Testing The 2017 Linux Driver Stack | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/jpMtLvwlzF | Jun 03 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #android #google #androidpay #linux | Jun 03 21:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #oneplus #androidTV | Jun 03 21:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 51 GPUs Tested, From The #Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 | Jun 03 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @E1tenne Fury: Testing The 2017 Driver Stack | Jun 03 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6I6lN14G7V (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 03 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 22:37 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.cinemablend.com/games/1666329/rimes-drm-will-be-removed-because-hackers This is a rare. How many times have we seen game developers attempt to fix the drm instead of giving up on it. | Jun 03 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cinemablend.com | Rime's DRM Will Be Removed, Because Hackers | Jun 03 22:59 | |
| razielle_tzu | too many? | Jun 03 23:08 |
| razielle_tzu | then again, with the DRM causing issues in the first place i'm not surprised it was cracked so quickly and then removed | Jun 03 23:12 |
| razielle_tzu | i just told my partner about it and she said it seems like that form of DRM was intended to be cracked in order to see if it was the DRM causing the gameply issues | Jun 03 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Steam is possibly the worst software port to Linux that I've ever seen. | Jun 03 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Local copies of a bunch of libraries, thinks that as long as it works on Ubuntu it's perfect. | Jun 03 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's a fine example of when Windows programmers do a Linux port. | Jun 03 23:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: bundling is how come most Windows applications work across windows versions. | Jun 03 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, It doesn't seem to work very well on Linux. | Jun 03 23:28 |
| oiaohm | flatpak is also bundling. | Jun 03 23:28 |
| oiaohm | same with appimage .... | Jun 03 23:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: even under windows bundling at times goes south when everything required is not bundled. | Jun 03 23:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: bundling is a solution to multi OS version support. Comes with prices that it does not always work. | Jun 03 23:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and security downsides. | Jun 03 23:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: steam does a better job than here a tar.gz files with binaries and we forgot to tell you what OS we developed that on. | Jun 03 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, The problem is that Steam isn't really included in the package. | Jun 03 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's a stub and then Steam updates itself, so the packager has no control over the version. | Jun 03 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | Meaning that if Steam's dependencies change, it can break. | Jun 03 23:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and those tar.gz games I was refering to some of those had autoupaters are well. | Jun 03 23:33 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really I would like to see steam in flatpak from valve themselves. | Jun 03 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I just posted that on Facebook, actually. | Jun 03 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, for now, I'm just installing Steam on Wine. | Jun 03 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | They only really care about Windows. | Jun 03 23:35 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: valve does care about steam on ubuntu because they want that for their console. | Jun 03 23:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it had really worried of Mir had stayed alive then going cross would have been a lot harder. | Jun 03 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Mir was a terrible idea. | Jun 03 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see it as having solved any problems that Wayland doesn't. | Jun 03 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | To be honest, I think a user would be hard pressed to say whether they were running under Wayland or X at this poit. | Jun 03 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | They've cleared enough crap out of the X Server and bypassed it when it couldn't be fixed that it works well enough these days. | Jun 03 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | Looking at it from the other angle, they're already adding extensions to Wayland to do things that X does. | Jun 03 23:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #iso #mobile | May 28 00:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #aosp #samsung | May 28 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 28 00:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868603373573951489 | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/VFza7uhaeP | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows | May 28 00:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #wannacry #ransomware | May 28 00:02 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/VFza7uhaeP #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #wannacry...' | May 28 00:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868603908427350016 | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #mastodon is so healthy in terms of growth that | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines got in less than two months same number of | May 28 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | followers it took 4 years in Twitter | May 28 00:14 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868606456295071744 | May 28 00:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech | May 28 00:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux Devices: FriendlyElec, NComputing, CubieTech | Tux Machines | May 28 00:15 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech https://t.co/7Ev8zP4iAZ' | May 28 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868607762694979584 | May 28 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A | May 28 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt #gnu #linux #freesw | May 28 00:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.1.1 released | Tux Machines | May 28 00:20 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDevelop 5.1.1 released https://t.co/e8V3Lxxb9A #kde #qt #gnu #linux...' | May 28 00:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-status-quo http://smbc-comics.com/comics/1494958693-soonish4after.png | May 28 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Status Quo | May 28 00:38 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux Devices: #FriendlyElec, #NComputing, #CubieTech | May 28 00:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Tizen News: Smart TVs, Wallpapers, and Games | Tux Machines | May 28 00:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.1.1 released | Tux Machines | May 28 01:40 | |
| cubexyz | well anyone can delve into the X11 code | May 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | and some of that code hasn't changed at all in many years | May 28 01:51 |
| cubexyz | just last night I was looking at the old xpr utility | May 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | xpr-1.0.1 | May 28 01:52 |
| cubexyz | there's also xdpr | May 28 01:53 |
| cubexyz | dumps an X window directly to the printer | May 28 01:54 |
| cubexyz | still works on DEC LA100 :) | May 28 01:55 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11 | May 28 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikibooks.org | Guide to X11 - Wikibooks, open books for an open world | May 28 02:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/868628052443447296 | May 28 02:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup (tuxmachines.org) #kde #qt #gnu #linux #freesw | May 28 02:21 |
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| cubexyz | funny | May 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it get scary when you start looking in the sections of the X11 server that have not been touched for 7+ years yet are in use every day of the week. | May 28 02:55 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: kind of hello bug central. | May 28 02:56 |
| cubexyz | do you see cubelog? | May 28 02:56 |
| cubexyz | it's been running xchat for the last 400 days | May 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | so X can't be _that_ bad | May 28 02:57 |
| cubexyz | I supposed if you really wanted to be strict you could run openbsd without X | May 28 02:59 |
| MinceR | many boxes do just that | May 28 03:01 |
| cubexyz | also on modern slack X runs as user not root | May 28 03:03 |
| cubexyz | openbsd does also | May 28 03:06 |
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| cubexyz | if xwayland worked as well as regular X11, I would consider using it on some machines | May 28 03:29 |
| cubexyz | I probably will anyway... may as well see what's up | May 28 03:29 |
| cubexyz | but most distros seem to still use X11, although I admit there's lots of them I've never tried | May 28 03:30 |
| cubexyz | someimes one has to backport things | May 28 03:31 |
| cubexyz | there's a historical interest... what did the old software do? What got dropped? | May 28 03:32 |
| cubexyz | most of the X code is perserved | May 28 03:32 |
| cubexyz | preserved | May 28 03:33 |
| cubexyz | I think X10R3 is the oldest I've looked at | May 28 03:33 |
| cubexyz | that's 1986 era | May 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | uwm was introduced | May 28 03:34 |
| cubexyz | and I should note that there's two uwm's | May 28 03:43 |
| cubexyz | the original Ultrix Window Manager and the Universal Window Manager | May 28 03:44 |
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| cubexyz | Ultrix wm is probably not maintained now | May 28 03:44 |
| cubexyz | ah, now I remember | May 28 03:45 |
| cubexyz | Ultrix was up to X11R3 | May 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | it was replaced by twm | May 28 03:46 |
| cubexyz | i'll do a quick recap: | May 28 03:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-x.txt | May 28 03:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/R3BlGAIdSI (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 03:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #gnu #linux #freesw #unix | May 28 03:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 28 03:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/R3BlGAIdSI #howto #gnu #linux #freesw #unix' | May 28 03:52 | |
| liberty_box | MinceR, thanks for logging | May 28 03:58 |
| liberty_box | just caught up with some links above (this is RIanne's laptop) | May 28 03:58 |
| MinceR | :) | May 28 04:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/R3BlGAIdSI #howto #gnu #linux #freesw #unix' | May 28 04:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868664440471797760 | May 28 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Debian Installer "Stretch" and Debian 9.0 "Stretch" | May 28 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nearly Ready https://t.co/qD7T3dcr4x (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 04:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 04:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Debian Installer "Stretch" and Debian 9.0 "Stretch" Nearly Ready | Tux Machines | May 28 04:06 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg there is a security problem here. Non root xorg still end with input and screen open to all processes. This is not good when you are attempting to protect password entry and other items like that. | May 28 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gentoo.org | Non root Xorg - Gentoo Wiki | May 28 04:10 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: X11 was not design with any of these security concepts in mind. | May 28 04:11 |
| cubexyz | it seems like xwayland would have the same problem then | May 28 04:19 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it does for the applications running inside the same xwayland instance. | May 28 04:20 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: the wayland compositor inside wayland system ends up in control of input and screen direct interfaces passed can be passed over by filehandle by logind and there is different method on bsd and solaris. | May 28 04:22 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so two pure wayland applications cannot go snooping on each other without the compositors permission. | May 28 04:23 |
| oiaohm | That is one of the big changes with the wayland design vs x11. | May 28 04:23 |
| cubexyz | what if I was running two X servers on the same computer? could one X program look at the inputs on the other server? | May 28 04:23 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: current X11 servers at times yes. | May 28 04:24 |
| cubexyz | well, I guess for important stuff you'd be the only user | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | e.g. banking or government stuff | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | just don't use other computers for that | May 28 04:28 |
| cubexyz | still, it's good to be aware of these issues | May 28 04:29 |
| oiaohm | http://www.mupuf.org/blog/2014/02/19/wayland-compositors-why-and-how-to-handle/ wayland is really designed to address the issues for X11 security. | May 28 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wayland compositors - Why and how to Handle privileged clients! (Updated on the 2014/02/21) - mupuf.org | May 28 04:30 | |
| oiaohm | Addressing the security issues of X11 has required wayland to drop features for a while until they could work out how they could be implemented correctly. | May 28 04:30 |
| oiaohm | Also addressing the security issues of X11 has required updating the graphics drivers and input drivers. | May 28 04:32 |
| oiaohm | this kinda explains why wayland is taking like forever to land. Fixing X11 faults is not easy. | May 28 04:33 |
| cubexyz | I assume chromeos doesn't have these problems? | May 28 04:35 |
| oiaohm | changed to wayland fixs some problems. Of course leaves the problem of doing most things in 1 application. | May 28 04:35 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: changing to wayland in chromeos to be exact. | May 28 04:36 |
| cubexyz | actually I thought it used freon | May 28 04:36 |
| cubexyz | but I'm not sure | May 28 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868664701982351360 | May 28 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Debian Installer "Stretch" and Debian 9.0 "Stretch" | May 28 04:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Nearly Ready https://t.co/qD7T3dcr4x (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 04:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 04:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Debian Installer "Stretch" and Debian 9.0 "Stretch" Nearly Ready | Tux Machines | May 28 04:37 | |
| cubexyz | I guess old chromeos still used X11 | May 28 04:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868672396928077824 | May 28 04:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FerenOS Could Be the Best-Looking Desktop on the Market | May 28 04:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Saqgdz3LSi (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #lnux | May 28 04:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Feren OS Could Be the Best-Looking Desktop on the Market | Tux Machines | May 28 04:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#FerenOS Could Be the Best-Looking Desktop on the...' | May 28 04:39 | |
| oiaohm | freon is a wayland compositor https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ARC-Wayland-Clients-ChromeOS The android emulation for chromeos is also wayland. | May 28 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Android Runtime On Chrome OS Makes Use Of Wayland - Phoronix | May 28 04:40 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so google dropped X11 and moved to wayland after starting freon with the possiblity of being a unique item. | May 28 04:41 |
| cubexyz | it seems to be that wayland is actually running inside the browser | May 28 04:43 |
| cubexyz | chrome --enable-wayland-server | May 28 04:43 |
| cubexyz | so I'm already using wayland | May 28 04:44 |
| cubexyz | on one computer at least | May 28 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Most of X11 to wayland changes should not be that visual. | May 28 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/868674900222935040 | May 28 05:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 05:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868688673998491648 | May 28 05:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mainframes, #Servers, and #Containers | May 28 05:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Mainframes, Servers, and Containers | Tux Machines | May 28 05:42 | |
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| cubexyz | I've added "the great suspender" to chrome | May 28 07:16 |
| cubexyz | we'll see how well it works | May 28 07:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868728476722806784 | May 28 08:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #smb emulated = | May 28 08:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | trouble if misconfigured | May 28 08:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/motters/status/868729512552542208 | May 28 08:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #debian #gnu #linux #Stretch | May 28 08:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868731043041361924 | May 28 08:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distro News: #Alpine, #Devuan, and #openSUSE | May 28 08:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Distro News: Alpine, Devuan, and openSUSE | Tux Machines | May 28 08:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME : #Mutter, #gresg, and #GTK | May 28 08:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Mutter, gresg, and GTK | Tux Machines | May 28 08:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/gIRzRsT3Gg (tuxmachines.org) | May 28 08:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | May 28 08:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 28 08:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737557256781824 | May 28 08:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Games and #Software Leftovers https://t.co/gssK3tlC9g | May 28 08:56 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737579406868480 | May 28 08:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/GpglJnYQty | May 28 08:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Graphics News | Tux Machines | May 28 08:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868737962963476480 | May 28 08:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 28/5/2017: #Mesa 17.1.1, #Wine 2.9, #KDevelop 5.1.1 | May 28 08:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/5/2017: Mesa 17.1.1, Wine 2.9, KDevelop 5.1.1 | Techrights | May 28 08:58 | |
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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/FYates94/status/868767508832157696 | May 28 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FYates94: @HorshamGardener @schestowitz @jeremycorbyn Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a politica… https://t.co/BowHD7uWli | May 28 10:56 | |
| acer-box | "Typical Tory. Angrily bashing the keyboard with a fist until a political statement is typed #infinitemonkeys" | May 28 10:56 |
| acer-box | The latest says 7 points https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/voting-intention-conservatives-43-labour-36-25-26-/ and YouGov is run by a Tory | May 28 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yougov.co.uk | YouGov | Voting Intention: Conservatives 43%, Labour 36% (25-26 May) | May 28 10:59 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | May 28 13:41 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Hi | May 28 13:43 |
| oiaohm | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/mesa/log/?h=r600-rats&utm_source=phx got to like using rats on a prototype branch. | May 28 13:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | ~airlied/mesa - Dave's mesa hackery | May 28 13:45 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: hi | May 28 13:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Void Linux - the Strangely Overlooked Distribution | Tux Machines | May 28 18:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Very much doubt so. If...' | May 28 20:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868930978340773888 | May 28 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and #KDE | May 28 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4uDxbhZbEr (tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix | May 28 21:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD News: 64-bit Inodes and KDE | Tux Machines | May 28 21:45 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868944197704794112 | May 28 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | May 28 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vlOqZAeteT (tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | May 28 22:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #gpl | May 28 22:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | Tux Machines | May 28 22:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868944469113978880 | May 28 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by These are the most exciting Linux powered devices | May 28 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/vlOqZAeteT (tuxmachines.org) #linux #gnu | May 28 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freedom #gpl | May 28 23:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #GNOME and #GTK News: GNOME Release and More | May 28 23:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/dzMAK8e0lN (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 28 23:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/868955047962361856 | May 28 23:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux, #Blockchain, and #Graphics | May 28 23:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Linux, Blockchain, and Graphics | Tux Machines | May 28 23:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868955355631329280 | May 28 23:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Father in law turns 70 today (bless him!). Coming back | May 28 23:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | home Friday, won't cover #gnu #linux as much, sofollow | May 28 23:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines for all that... | May 28 23:21 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME and #GTK News: GNOME Release and More...' | May 28 23:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/868955441274904577 | May 28 23:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Linux, #Blockchain, and #Graphics | May 28 23:42 |
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| liberty_box | https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/i-was-struck-by-lightning-yesterday-and-boy-am-i-sore/ | May 29 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | I was struck by lightning yesterday—and boy am I sore | Ars Technica | May 29 00:31 | |
| liberty_box | "Today, my whole body is sore—even my organs ache in a hard-to-describe way—but I feel lucky to have walked away unscathed. There's a fine line between awe and terror. I have now been inextricably nudged to the right of it." | May 29 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC | So, what's the plan for existing Ubuntu GNOME users? Do they just get updated to the next release and that's just "Ubuntu" now? I'd kind of like to know before I commit to installing something. | May 29 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not too sure that I like Wayland anyway. | May 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have a HiDPI display and when I tried out KDE on Wayland, I could only choose to scale 100%, 200%, etc. No 250% option. | May 29 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · Chicago · | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | "Microsoft Edge is safer than Chrome" | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | From the company that brought you NTFS file locking on $MFT. :) | May 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I own some of Apple and Microsoft, indirectly. | May 29 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Index fund. Can't avoid them if I want my money in the index. Not sure I'd want to anyway. They have been making a lot of money lately. | May 29 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | The return on bonds is pathetic nowadays. It's a safe place for your money to rapidly lose value to inflation. The US is paying 2.3% on ten year notes and that's "high" by the standards of the developed world. | May 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | The only way to get higher returns is to accept default risk on bonds from entities with lower credit ratings. | May 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | Someone will even lend Chicago Public Schools money, at triple the rate what a school system with good credit would pay. | May 29 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | So we're all trapped in the "most hated stock market rally ever". | May 29 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Of course they call it that because the rally is happening due to a mix of inflation and low bond returns. Everyone piles up to get into the stock market in the hopes of beating the rate on bonds and that's why the market goes up. | May 29 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | I saw an article saying that Google and Amazon stocks are near $1,000 a share and that makes them easier to manipulate. The whole market is manipulated. | May 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | If the government was offering even 4-5% on bonds, which it was as recently as 20 years ago, people would pile out of the stock market and it would crash. | May 29 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is not comparable to the rally of the 1990s at all. That was a bubble, of course, but it was a bubble that formed despite higher interest rates because people were investing in technology stocks that they didn't understand (anything with a .com after it had a huge IPO even with no product). | May 29 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | This rally is the "lack of better options" one. The "everything bubble". | May 29 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is horribly horribly overvalued right now considering what their prospects are. | May 29 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | In a sane environment, they would either have to do a major share buyback or a higher dividend because when your stock value stops rising rapidly, investors eventually want the money somehow. | May 29 01:19 |
| liberty_box | true | May 29 01:21 |
| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/RicoMuscatel/status/868985855628718082 | May 29 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RicoMuscatel: @MCopeland1981 @schestowitz @JulianAssange Oh, please, are you really that gullible? | May 29 01:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I've been really meaning to go Linux full time on this machine since November of last year. I installed the "Linux" BIOS and then kept it in RAID mode. Dabbling with Linux from a live environment, trying to get a feel for what works and what doesn't. | May 29 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Skylake mobile was such a major shake-up that many things in Linux just didn't work last year, or they worked and your laptop wouldn't go into low power mode, etc. | May 29 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | I think the Linux 4.10 kernel is finally basically good enough to use, albeit I'll have to tinker to get some rough edges taken care of (powertop tuning, display scale problems, etc.). | May 29 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | The system spends most of its idle time in the deepest power saving mode with all of the tunables set, so that's encouraging. | May 29 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Matthew Garrett tested Linux 4.5 last year and estimated that under Windows it would idle at around 4 watts, and under Linux it would idle at around 8-9. With kernel 4.10 and some tuning, I'd be shocked if there was a major difference between Windows and Linux on battery life. | May 29 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | I brought all of this up last year when Garrett was telling me that even if I got Lenovo to allow Linux installs it was no use because power policy sucked back then (about 6 months ago). | May 29 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I came back with "If we don't get them to allow Linux installs then nobody will ever be able to use Linux regardless of if and when the power management is good.". | May 29 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | My god that guy is short-sighted. | May 29 01:29 |
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| cubexyz | my conscience is clear, no M$ stocks | May 29 01:47 |
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| cubexyz | xdpr is just a bash script | May 29 02:22 |
| cubexyz | it calls xwd and xpr | May 29 02:22 |
| oiaohm | I thought that was a standard posix sh ie no bash extras. | May 29 02:24 |
| cubexyz | right, right | May 29 02:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: because if it had become bash at some point that would have been a interesting goof up. | May 29 02:27 |
| cubexyz | bash was first released in 1989 but xpdr is older | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | so far I haven't managed to get it to print :-/ | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | typo again... xdpr | May 29 02:28 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I can just pipe xwd output to lp | May 29 02:30 |
| cubexyz | ok, I want the black and white reversed or I'm using too much toner | May 29 02:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: from memory no as lp is text or postscript | May 29 02:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and newer versions support pdf as well. | May 29 02:32 |
| cubexyz | ah, yeah but xpr does the conversion to postscript | May 29 02:33 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | lp -d HP | May 29 02:34 |
| cubexyz | that works, but I get an error.. stdin in empty | May 29 02:35 |
| cubexyz | weird | May 29 02:35 |
| cubexyz | I'm doing something not quite right | May 29 02:36 |
| cubexyz | stdin is empty | May 29 02:36 |
| cubexyz | doh, I guess I don't pipe it at all :) | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | xdpr dump.xwd -rv | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | ok, now I have some extra scrap paper :-P | May 29 02:41 |
| cubexyz | if anyone wants to see the source: | May 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xpr-1.0.1.tar.bz2 | May 29 02:44 |
| cubexyz | xpr has some nice command line settings for gamma correction and scaling | May 29 02:50 |
| cubexyz | I remember I used to do stuff like: cat test.txt > /dev/lp0 (output to parallel port) | May 29 03:05 |
| cubexyz | cat file.txt | lp | May 29 03:06 |
| cubexyz | that should also work | May 29 03:06 |
| cubexyz | of course "lp file.txt" works too | May 29 03:07 |
| cubexyz | early AIX on IBM RT had X10R3 | May 29 03:13 |
| oiaohm | More I hear of microsoft usage of git more nightmare in design windows source code sounds. | May 29 04:28 |
| cubexyz | you can look at NT 4.0 code | May 29 04:28 |
| oiaohm | 300GB git repo sounds like something over due for splitting. | May 29 04:28 |
| cubexyz | or maybe you have already | May 29 04:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you use to be able to get XP source under educational usage only. Yes this was highly stupid you were allowed to read the source but not build it. | May 29 04:29 |
| cubexyz | pffft | May 29 04:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Ok you could bulid to only to confirm that the source and XP matched . | May 29 04:30 |
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| oiaohm | So a reporductable build test | May 29 04:30 |
| oiaohm | I don't know if 7 and 10 has programs like that around I would suspect so. | May 29 04:30 |
| oiaohm | This is what lead to NSA and other collecting known back doors. | May 29 04:31 |
| cubexyz | Judge Kollar-Kotelly ordered M$ to disclose windows XP source I think | May 29 04:32 |
| cubexyz | and I noted you said "used to" | May 29 04:32 |
| oiaohm | https://m.thhttps://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review | May 29 04:34 |
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| oiaohm | https://m.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/21/caldera_case_expert_to_review/ | May 29 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.theregister.co.uk | Caldera case expert to review Windows XP source code • The Register | May 29 04:34 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it happened a few times. | May 29 04:34 |
| cubexyz | reall would you really want to sift through all that? | May 29 04:35 |
| cubexyz | really | May 29 04:35 |
| cubexyz | I'd rather just forget about it | May 29 04:35 |
| oiaohm | http://windowsitpro.com/windows-server/microsoft-grants-windows-source-code-access-mvps then you have this starting in 2003 | May 29 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-windowsitpro.com | Microsoft Grants Windows Source Code Access to MVPs | Windows Server content from Windows IT Pro [ http://ur1.ca/qxnp2 ] | May 29 04:36 | |
| oiaohm | so the idea that windows is closed source and people cannot be using automated tools against it to find faults who are not microsoft is bogus. | May 29 04:36 |
| cubexyz | Allchin ranks high on the list of Microsoft jerks | May 29 04:39 |
| cubexyz | "We need to slaughter Novell before they get stronger" | May 29 04:39 |
| cubexyz | oh and this is another gem: | May 29 04:40 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories,_Inc._v._Berkeley_Software_Design,_Inc. I am not sure I am unhappy about what happened to Novell | May 29 04:40 |
| cubexyz | "You should make sure it has problems in the future: | May 29 04:41 |
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| cubexyz | DR-DOS comment | May 29 04:41 |
| cubexyz | so remember Allchin was a jerk | May 29 04:41 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: do remember Novell has a long history of being jerks taking other people copyrighted works and stripping the credit. | May 29 04:41 |
| oiaohm | What happened to Dr-dos that was a jerk. | May 29 04:42 |
| cubexyz | ha, and DR-DOS used some utilities from FreeDOS | May 29 04:43 |
| cubexyz | but whatever, I'm never going to be a microsoft MVP | May 29 04:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: worse utilities from freedos under GPL license and they did not obey license and stripped out credit markings. | May 29 04:46 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and that back traces to being performed at Novell. | May 29 04:46 |
| cubexyz | I'm more of a Bell Labs + BSD fan really | May 29 04:47 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caldera_%28company%29 and that leads to the SCO groups desperations. | May 29 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caldera (company) - Wikipedia | May 29 04:47 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes SCO suing Linux comes out of Novell | May 29 04:48 |
| cubexyz | Venix and Xenix and all that... I never got anything but small scraps of source code | May 29 04:48 |
| oiaohm | Novell copyright thief who has caused lots of companies harm. | May 29 04:49 |
| cubexyz | the one everyone remembers fondly was Unix v7 | May 29 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft hating Novell is kind of a given. All companies who watched Novell history would not have wanting to be doing business with them as it was a great way to get burnt. | May 29 04:49 |
| cubexyz | most companies do evil things | May 29 04:49 |
| oiaohm | Selling products you don't own? Novell common play card. | May 29 04:50 |
| oiaohm | Yes most companies do evil things. Most don't go selling stuff they don't own. | May 29 04:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Novell is the second car salesman who regularly got caught selling cars they don't own of the software world. | May 29 04:53 |
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| cubexyz | oh btw... | May 29 05:03 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs recently allowed non-commercial study of the source code of Unix v8, v9 and v10 | May 29 05:04 |
| cubexyz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/30/old_unix_source_code_opened_for_study/ | May 29 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Samizdat no more: Old Unix source code opened for study • The Register | May 29 05:04 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: that opens up Pandora for claims of taint. I really hate non-commercial clauses. | May 29 05:07 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://monster6502.com/ I am sure I mentioned about this one to your before. | May 29 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-monster6502.com | MOnSter 6502 | May 29 05:08 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Windows 10 S is because OEMs don't want to pay for Windows licenses and Microsoft has to make it money some how. | May 29 05:08 |
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| DaemonFC | As long as you can still nuke Windows and install some other operating system, that's just fine. | May 29 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | At least the OEM won't pay Microsoft and then build the cost of the license into the computer. | May 29 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Something tells me it'll be Lenovo 2.0. They just find some way to prevent Linux from being installed and "oops". | May 29 05:10 |
| cubexyz | I have v8 running on emulated vax780 | May 29 05:11 |
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| cubexyz | no idea what v9 and v10 can run on | May 29 05:11 |
| cubexyz | oh wait, I do | May 29 05:12 |
| cubexyz | v9 can run on Sun-3 | May 29 05:12 |
| cubexyz | the old motorola 68020 cpu | May 29 05:14 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think monster 6502 was announced about a year ago | May 29 05:18 |
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| cubexyz | there's a newer version of the Lanam APL in there | May 29 05:40 |
| cubexyz | in Unix v10 | May 29 05:41 |
| cubexyz | looks like Unix v10 was VAX only | May 29 05:47 |
| cubexyz | Vax-11/750, Vax-11/780 and microvax II and III | May 29 05:48 |
| cubexyz | I don't think I'm going to be running v10 anytime soon :-/ | May 29 05:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://github.com/simh/simh | May 29 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - simh/simh: The Computer History Simulation Project | May 29 06:25 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's no disk image | May 29 06:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: simh has Vax-11/750 and Microvax II | May 29 06:26 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and I guess it missing the source to the boot loader and getting the build tools to work will be hell. | May 29 06:27 |
| cubexyz | I already have unix v8 running on simh, plus a bunch of other ones | May 29 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Vax-11/780 is in there as well. | May 29 06:28 |
| oiaohm | So the only one missing unless it under some other name is microvax III | May 29 06:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: wonder if unix v8 can build unix v10 source. | May 29 06:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Very strange bug in Fedora. | May 29 06:44 |
| cubexyz | it's odd how v9 drifted unto Sun3 | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I posted to Facebook. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I checked out a Fedora live image with the latest updates as of 5-23 and GNOME and Wayland seem to work well enough, except that my volume control buttons worked and then something happened and they did not work anymore. I tried rebooting, shutting down, etc. No dice. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | They work in Windows. If I go to the GNOME Settings app and pick buttons to assign to volume up, down, and mute it detects them as I press the button, and they work as F1, F2, and F3 if I hold down the Fn key. | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | I googled it. Seems to be a problem that happens now and then. The only answer is to run GNOME in an X11 session. Boo! That's not what I want! | May 29 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Wayland still seems rough around the edges. | May 29 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's odd that Fedora is including MP3 playback (public domain on that end now) but Ubuntu won't, but what Ubuntu *will* do is obviously violate the GPL with ZFS, which is under an incompatible license. | May 29 06:47 |
| DaemonFC | Their lawyers apparently disagree. I'm not sure that I'd (a) trust that MINORITY legal opinion and (b) bait Oracle into suing me. | May 29 06:48 |
| cubexyz | some folks are running v9 on TME | May 29 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | They already managed to go judge shopping in the US until they found one that says that you can copyright an API. | May 29 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 06:48 |
| cubexyz | wouldn't OpenZFS be ok to use? | May 29 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | Does Ubuntu really want to ship Oracle code that *is* copyrighted and almost certainly has that copyright being infringed? | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | err | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | stupid up key | May 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | cubexyz, The way I heard it is that Ubuntu is shipping Linux kernel code under the CDDL (the ZFS module) and claiming that it's alright because being a loadable module doesn't make you a derived work of the kernel. "The Nvidia defense" | May 29 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like Fedora is shipping Wayland out when it's clearly not ready to go. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Like most of the F25 Known Issues involve Wayland. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's this. | May 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?component=wayland&product=Wayland&resolution=--- | May 29 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bugzilla is pondering your search | May 29 06:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Of course, it _is_ Fedora. They're well known for shipping things before they are known to work properly and then the users are supposed to spend all their time filing bugs on it. | May 29 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | Technology testbed more than an operating system. | May 29 06:55 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @bsdfortune https://twitter.com/bsdfortune/status/869076552067231744 | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest The BSDfortune Daily! https://t.co/9rQY1tyJCY | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @videlft @Anon_Universal | May 29 08:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #usrc #freebsd | May 29 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | The BSDfortune Daily | May 29 08:19 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I agree wayland is still a work in progress. There is only so far you can get before starting more broad testing. | May 29 09:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, my volume keys only work if I'm holding down the Alt button on Fedora 25. Any ideas? | May 29 09:10 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really I don't know how that would be different thinking both wayland and X11 should be using libinput backend. | May 29 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems to work fine under X, but not under Wayland. | May 29 09:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: its a reportable bug. Most likely people testing it have not had keyboards with those keys. | May 29 09:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I would think your x.org would be using libinput? | May 29 09:12 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it is possilbe that you x11 is not using libinput https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput | May 29 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | libinput - ArchWiki | May 29 09:13 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Returning to the Void https://t.co/lneZjuOEJz | May 29 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Returning to the Void | Tux Machines | May 29 09:15 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/olivia-doll-predatory-journals That not good | May 29 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlasobscura.com | This Dog Sits on Seven Editorial Boards - Atlas Obscura | May 29 09:30 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Distro News: Alpine, Devuan, and openSUSE | Tux Machines | May 29 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869114171534721024 | May 29 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Reasons to use the #GNOME3 desktop environment, cool #KDE | May 29 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | tweaks, and #GNOME integration for #Qt based application | May 29 09:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora Leftovers: Memorial Weekend ISO, #LGBTQA | May 29 10:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Patches, and #BritishAirways Grounded | May 29 10:35 |
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| liberty_box_ | > Hi, Roy, | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I was at a shop the other day and noticed they had about two dozen | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > notebooks. None were Chromebooks and all but four or five Apples were | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista 10. The interesting thing was that not a single one of the | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Vista10 machines had a M$ or Windoze label on it. | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > I think I mentioned that before around a year or two ago. It's still | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > the case that both trademarks have become a liability. | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > For another example, look at the silver sponsors of this conference: | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2017/ | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > Notice M$ is trying to shrink its visibility while attempting to | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | > increase influence. | May 29 11:58 |
| liberty_box_ | 2 days ago we went to 5 computer store s here. None had GNU/Linux or even CHromebooks. But that depends on the country. | May 29 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ieee-security.org | IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy 2017 | May 29 11:59 | |
| liberty_box_ | https://twitter.com/debexpert/status/869145237490470912 | May 29 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@debexpert: @schestowitz XD | May 29 11:59 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://gitlab.com/esr/open-adventure I guess you have seen this? | May 29 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eric S. Raymond / open-adventure · GitLab | May 29 12:15 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869164832141987842 | May 29 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Links 29/5/2017: Another #Linux RC, #Enlightenment 0.21.8 | May 29 13:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 13:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @kapper1224 https://t.co/j3fCFAyDOc (tuxmachines.org) #kernel | May 29 14:02 |
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| MinceR | http://random.cat/i/dDVns.gif | May 29 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/debian_stretch_omits_secure_boot/ | May 29 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Secure Boot booted from Debian 9 'Stretch' • The Register | May 29 20:47 | |
| DaemonFC | So basically every computer made now will not boot to Debian without user intervention. | May 29 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what their plan is if Secure Boot can't be turned off at some point and they don't boot at all. | May 29 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Not that I agree with what Ubuntu did either. | May 29 20:49 |
| MinceR | they'll buy windows, obviously | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | they swallowed systemd with joy | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | they swallowed Restricted Boot with joy | May 29 20:50 |
| MinceR | they'll swallow windows with joy | May 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | They enforce Secure Boot down to the kernel level, so you can't addd your own unsigned modules unless you add a Machine Owner's Key to shim. | May 29 20:51 |
| MinceR | yet they somehow expect me to pay for that appliance and to buy electricity and internet access for it | May 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | But the problem with that is that malware that manages to elevate its privileges could just add its own signing key to shim and then load a malicious kernel module. | May 29 20:52 |
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| DaemonFC | So, you might as well only enforce secure boot until you get to grub. | May 29 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | From a security viewpoint. | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | you might as well never enforce secure boot | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It gets worse. | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | it always does | May 29 20:53 |
| MinceR | it's the specialty of our species | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | If you turn off Secure Boot, Ubuntu and Fedora COMPLAIN on boot that they are booting in insecure mode. | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's a wart. It leaves a line in your system log. That's about all. | May 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | I can't see any reason why a user would want to leave it on and allow Microsoft to decide whether to keep signing shim or not. | May 29 20:54 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows enforces Secure Boot now. It won't start up at all without it unless you already had Secure Boot off when you installed a version of Windows 10 that didn't enforce that. | May 29 20:55 |
| MinceR | well, of course | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | It just prints to the screen a thing that tells you to go into your BIOS and turn Secure Boot back on. | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | canonical and red hat serve m$ now | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | they're licking asatya nadella's boots | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | i can't see any reason why a user would want to run ubuntu or fedora | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Pretty soon, the only way to run either of them will be as apps from the Windows Store. | May 29 20:56 |
| MinceR | or debian8, for that matter | May 29 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then they'll be kicked out of there too. | May 29 20:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 29 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I see, a few years down the road..... | May 29 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | "We're discontinuing support for the Windows Subsystem for Linux, but don't worry. Here are some Visual Studio plug-ins to convert your apps to the Universal Windows Platform. | May 29 20:59 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 20:59 |
| MinceR | and for the super low price of $99/year, you'll even get to run the resulting binaries! | May 29 21:00 |
| MinceR | (may be revoked at any time) | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | They've been inching closer to that. | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 10 S is a trial balloon to see if they can get people to accept that. | May 29 21:00 |
| MinceR | as are iphones | May 29 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It may reach a point where I *have* to buy a Macbook. | May 29 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I know, I know. Too expensive....Barf... Why? | May 29 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | You go to a Linux dev conference these days and upwards of 70% are using Macbooks. | May 29 21:01 |
| MinceR | i suspect crApple will lock crapbooks down in lockstep with m$ | May 29 21:01 |
| MinceR | well yeah, the industry is full of amateurs who have no clue what they're doing | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | It's reached the point where it's all the people who are building Linux are really doing a great job to support, because they use it themselves. | May 29 21:02 |
| MinceR | it shows everywhere | May 29 21:02 |
| MinceR | most of our software is garbage and most of our hardware is garbage | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then you report a problem with your PC laptop and none of them care. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | Or they attack you. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:02 |
| MinceR | we'll have to start building our own cpus | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Or they make excuses for Microsoft and Intel. (Matthew Garrett) | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to be getting there. | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well start setting back some money and getting ready to massively overpay for a System76? | May 29 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then it's their job to make sure Ubuntu works. I might not stick to Ubuntu, but if Ubuntu works, most any distro should. | May 29 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | Or one of those Dell XPS laptops. Might go that route next time. | May 29 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting back to the bad old days when you have to restrict yourself to known good configurations or it's unlikely to run Linux at all, and that's due to UEFI, bad OEMs like Lenovo, etc. | May 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | And there they were telling us that UEFI wasn't an assault on Linux, and it's been nothing but that. | May 29 21:06 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll make sure lendows works but no unixes do | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | It was almost impossible to find a PC with a legacy BIOS that wouldn't run Linux. | May 29 21:06 |
| MinceR | and we get to start the fight over for laptops that can run unix | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe there were bugs, but you add some hardware quirks and it's good again. | May 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm wondering if those Surface laptops with Windows 10 S will be restricted to Windows. | May 29 21:07 |
| MinceR | probably | May 29 21:07 |
| MinceR | it's m$, after all | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm saying 80/20 on that. On one hand, up until now MSFT has been pretty liberal on what you can run on your Surface and most of the problems were just that there was a new piece of hardware. Like you needed a touchpad driver or something. | May 29 21:08 |
| MinceR | and they'll probably be garbage quality like before | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | On the other, it's subsidized hardware now, and they really really want you to py for the Windows upgrade that lets you use it as a general purpose computer again. | May 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wait and see approach. | May 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm done buying hardware and then fighting shitty OEMs later. | May 29 21:09 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just let someone else step in it and see what a google search turns out. | May 29 21:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/869285201138122752 | May 29 21:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 29/5/2017: Another Linux RC, Enlightenment 0.21.8 Released | Techrights | May 29 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5p3xtr/the_wayland_situation_facts_about_x_vs_wayland/#bottom-comments | May 29 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qxq03 ] | May 29 21:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Why do I get the impression that Wayland is turning into LightDM redux? | May 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | "It's really really light and thin.....Oh, and now every compositor that wants to talk with it has to implement all these things that X11 already took care of." | May 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems more like shifting development hassle away from the Wayland devs and to everyone who wants to make a window manager. | May 29 21:30 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | It also means that without standard core features provided by Wayland, that everyone is going to implement those features with their own code, and you'll get crazy bugs that only crop up when you use a certain window manager, which would have been easier to track down and kill with X. | May 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Wayland is more like a thin wrapper thatt handles "the last mile", but it shifts complexity out to everyone else and creates a lot of work there. | May 29 21:31 |
| MinceR | don't worry, gnome will get it all done, all wrong, and they'll try all the tricks in m$'s book to force it on you | May 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | So, the bigger projects like GNOME and KDE will have native Wayland support, but the smaller ones will tell you to load Wayland and talk between Wayland and their window manager with XWayland. | May 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | s/done/half done/ | May 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | and the bigger projects will also depend on systemd :> | May 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | And even though XWayland was supposed to be "at least as fast" as using X directly now, and "maybe faster" and "certainly with less tearing", people are finding out that (a) They lose performance with Wayland directly and they lose more performance with XWayland talking to Wayland, (b) Wine using XWayland makes video games unplayable and doesn't let you turn off vsync, (c) either way, they have to log out and use a "GNOME on X" session. | May 29 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and Wayland broke some of my hotkeys for some reason and nobody is sure why. | May 29 21:34 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | so it's far from stable -- which means it's the perfect time to force it on all users! | May 29 21:35 |
| MinceR | right, red hat supporters? :> | May 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Bonus: the GNOME Wayland session is horribly unstable on Fedora 26. Crashes every few minutes. Caused four delays already. | May 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, By the time they get it working well enough that a stable operating system might be interested in using it, it'll be about 6 years since the first code commit and like two distributions will be using it by default, both with fallbacks. | May 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and you'll only be able to use it with GNOME because KDE on Wayland is roughly where GNOME was last year. | May 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | So much for their "thin wrapper". | May 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Wayland is turning out to be as much of a disaster as the early days of Pulseaudio. | May 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | It ust doesn't handle the use cases that they said it would, so nobody wants to ship it except Fedora, which ships broken stuff all the time. | May 29 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.24 | May 29 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/GNOME3.24 - FedoraProject | May 29 21:43 | |
| DaemonFC | one of the new features is "browse as root" in the file manager | May 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty sure that Konquerer and Nautilus could do that 20 years ago. | May 29 21:44 |
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| MinceR | :> | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | but won't that option confuse users? | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | like the print dialog options did? | May 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/logical-fallacies | May 29 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Logical Fallacies | May 29 21:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, According to the interview about why X waas bad, it came up that it used to have its own print server. | May 29 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | It was removed after someone added printing support to glxgears, | May 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | lol | May 29 22:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @Conservatives https://t.co/voMoqeO0uN | May 29 22:13 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Nothing says better, I'm not Prime...' | May 29 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | "Wayland is already in need of extensions to provide functionality that X11 offered by design out of the box. A “clean, fresh start, designed with the requirements of the current decade in mind” that needs extensions before it even gets off the launching pad is hardly what I would call a good design." | May 29 22:22 |
| MinceR | well, modularity would be nice | May 29 22:23 |
| MinceR | but putting one half of the window manager in the display server and the other in the gui toolkit is not modularity | May 29 22:23 |
| MinceR | it's just bad design | May 29 22:24 |
| MinceR | but at least that could be fixed without too much fuss | May 29 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I get that X11 is becoming a pain though. One of the developers said there's only 3 people who really understand xinput and he wishes he wasn't one of them. | May 29 22:25 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=x_wayland_situation&num=1 | May 29 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland - Phoronix | May 29 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | I) We've spent the last 10 years or so “fixing” the X server by wrapping it in more and more extensions and plugins. Problem with that though is...X only has minimal versioning support in its extension system. | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | A) Versioning is handled per client, not per bind. So if your app supports one version of a given extension but your toolkit supports another, you can't predict which version of that extension you will get. | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | B) Theoretical example: Rekonq supports Xinput 2.2. Kdelibs support Xinput 2.0, Flash plugin only supports Core X11...all of those things are gonna fight over what version of Input “Rekonq” supports and in the end you're gonna get one version to support everything...may not be the version that EVERYTHING supports though. | May 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | :> | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | FIGHT! | May 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | FINISH HIM! | May 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | FLAWLESS VICTORY! | May 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I assume that was probably what caused Rekonq to crash so much when I was trying to use it with Flash. | May 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | could be | May 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | could also be flash being garbage | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | There's that. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | For a long time, I had to use that nspluginwrapper thing on it to bridge the 32-bit Flash plugin to 64-bit Firefox. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | That was a nightmare. | May 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | And it tried to wrap every npapi plugin it could find too, including the ones that it wasn't compatible with. | May 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I used to have to do all kinds of horrible things to make Linux work, like ndiswrapper. | May 29 22:31 |
| MinceR | i didn't | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | I had a wifi chipset that only had a Windows XP driver. | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | So to use it, I had to install ndiswrapper and use the Windows XP driver on Linux. | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | It was surprisingly stable considering... | May 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of annoying to try to set up a new Linux install with no wifi driver though. | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | It would be impossible on this laptop without an ethernet dongle. | May 29 22:33 |
| MinceR | i never had such garbage chipsets | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the original Fedora 25 installer shipped before the kernel had a wifi driver. | May 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | So if you load the original installer disk, you won't have a driver and have no way to get on the internet. | May 29 22:34 |
| MinceR | what's worse, you'll end up with fedora | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | The distributions should probably go grab all of the new wifi chipset drivers from the latest kernel and include them. | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's actually why the staging tree is built by default in most distributions. | May 29 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually better to have a staging tree driver than none at all. | May 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Everything that ends up in Fedora ends up everywhere else later. | May 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | And if it doesn't, they'll make sure that things break in the distributions that refuse it. | May 29 22:36 |
| MinceR | those things are to be avoided, then | May 29 22:37 |
| MinceR | for they are cancer. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Gobbling up the whole world and forcing it to depend on systemd, for example. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Hostile takeover. | May 29 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | They even end up fforcing their software into Ubuntu, sooner or later. | May 29 22:37 |
| MinceR | not difficult | May 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Everything that Ubuntu was working on is now officially dead. | May 29 22:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately except for ubuntu | May 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I tried saying that none of it would be sustainable a few years back when I filed a bunch of bugs against libindicators. | May 29 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | The track record of distributions going it alone with their own software is pretty bad. | May 29 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it's something small, like a file manager. | May 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | except for ratcrap, apparently | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | ratcrap? | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, Flatpak? | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | That's an interesting project, I think. | May 29 22:40 |
| MinceR | way too much cancer to list | May 29 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpak works around dependency hell and lets you simply install software. | May 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | And the software keeps working even if you change distributions or upgrade or whatever. | May 29 22:41 |
| MinceR | provided that you have systemd | May 29 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's been previous attempts at doing this. | May 29 22:41 |
| MinceR | at which point the whole thing is pointless | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to use the implementation of said software that is built into systemd | May 29 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Well, every major distribution has systemd at this point. | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | or into the kernel | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | yes, every lendows distribution has it | May 29 22:42 |
| MinceR | and none of them matter | May 29 22:42 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Fix the country. The more people know...' | May 29 22:43 | |
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| MinceR | if i wanted to run a huge unreliable unsecire black box full of back doors, i'd just run winblows | May 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think that Devuan will eventualyl cease to exist. | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | There will be a point where they are maintaining too many forks and give up. | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | depends on how many unix users remain | May 29 22:43 |
| MinceR | and if there aren't enough to keep gnu/linux alive, then we'll keep some bsd alive | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | That's the whole point of gobbling up hundreds of pieces of software and making the upstream only work with systemd. | May 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | and that's what didn't work with windows | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think that even the BSDs will give up sooner or later. | May 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's more likely that systemd just ends up being ported to them. | May 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | then i'll run outdated unix | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | there's a reason i stopped using windows as much as i could | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | giving the same atrocious design a different name won't change that | May 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think they're in better shape to fight this though, because they maintain a lot of their own stuff to avoid the GPL. | May 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | So maybe some Linux distributions start using the BSD stuff. | May 29 22:45 |
| MinceR | and before these retards came over from winblows and brought their moronic culture with them, gnu/linux users understood that | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | and i doubt those users ceased to exist | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | maybe they don't realize how broken lendows is yet, but eventually they will | May 29 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I wouldn't take that for granted. | May 29 22:46 |
| MinceR | switching OSes once didn't make the desire to use a fundamentally unfucked system go away | May 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The Steam User Survey lines up against browser stats shows that 90% (if not more) Linux users are heavily concentrated between Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSuSE. | May 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | But mostly Ubuntu. | May 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | > u know the worst part about being a pedophile? fitting in. | May 29 22:48 |
| MinceR | that 90% is probably the clueless part | May 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu became the de facto Linux distribution because it provided a coherent setup at a time when there really wasn't one. | May 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | It took years for Debian to even have a Live installer disc, and it still won't boot unless you can turn Secure Boot off. | May 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The more things you have to stop and explain to the user, the more likely they are to just use Windows. | May 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora and Debian refuse to play files and won't tell you what you need to make them work. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Average user says: "Well this sucks." and goes away. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Now, Richard Stallman says that "advertising non-free software is bad", but really most of what you need these days isn't non-free, it's just patented in some countries. | May 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Those patents aren't going to expire for decades, and when they do, there will be something else, if there isn't already. | May 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | For example, h.264, AAC, h.265. | May 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | There are free implementations, but US patents stop them from being easy to distribute. | May 29 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | That's one reason why I was glad that Trump stopped the TPP. Hopefully, whatever "free trade" deal the other members sign doesn't recognize the US "IP" laws TPP was designed to push on them. | May 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Now that the US isn't involved, there's no reason to entertain that. | May 29 22:53 |
| MinceR | ubuntu is garbage, fedora is garbage and as of version 8, debian is garbage too | May 29 22:54 |
| MinceR | windows always was garbage, people got tired of it | May 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm probably going to install Kubuntu, but I haven't made up my mind yet. | May 29 22:54 |
| MinceR | people will get tired of their computer failing to boot and/or shut down | May 29 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I like staying close to Ubuntu for the compatibility. | May 29 22:55 |
| MinceR | i like staying close to unix for the sanity | May 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure if Ubuntu GNOME will get an upgrade file that turns it into Ubuntu proper in the next version. | May 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/3139812/laptop-computers/after-protest-lenovo-brings-linux-compatibility-to-yoga-900-and-900s.html | May 29 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-After protest, Lenovo adds Linux compatibility to Yoga 900 and 900S laptops | PCWorld | May 29 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | This is a Linux-only BIOS, meaning it should be used only by those who want to load the OS. If you want to continue with Windows, do not load the firmware. “This BIOS is not intended to be used on machines running Windows operating systems,” Lenovo said. | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | heh | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | It can be. About the only difference is it unhides ACHI in Storage Controller Mode. | May 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Lenovo made it difficult to install though. You have to enable BIOS backflash first, because otherwise it tells you it's an older BIOS and won't install it. | May 29 22:58 |
| MinceR | yeah, but they still want to scare users away from it | May 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | By implying it'll blow up your computer if you install it. | May 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'll probably just use Kubuntu. Other than some minor nits, like scaling issues, it seems to work okay. | May 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | HiDPI displays in Linux still seem to be problematic. | May 29 23:08 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Now I laugh whenever I think of Fedora because of that stupid song. | May 29 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hun. | May 29 23:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869315154864820224 | May 29 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #JavaScript, #PHP, and #GCC | May 29 23:13 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE | May 29 23:15 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. Looks like with Kubuntu, my CPU package never gets out of pc2. At least in the live environment. | May 30 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora gets to pc8. Same major kernel versions. | May 30 00:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | and #freesw news (not me) | May 30 00:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869333050626236421 | May 30 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #RaspberryPi foundation merges with #CoderDojo Foundation | May 30 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/TtmYwRtoG7 (tuxmachines.org) #raspi #linux | May 30 00:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #hardware | May 30 00:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi foundation merges with CoderDojo Foundation | Tux Machines | May 30 00:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines retweeted @schestowitz: 'Just another gentle reminder: starting this weekend (back...' | May 30 00:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#RaspberryPi foundation merges with #CoderDojo Foundation https://t.co/TtmYwRtoG7 #raspi...' | May 30 00:23 | |
| cubexyz | MinceR, you have to be more accurate... | May 30 00:34 |
| cubexyz | what you really mean is Fedora is garbage _now_ | May 30 00:34 |
| cubexyz | FC1 was pretty good | May 30 00:35 |
| cubexyz | also redhat 8 and redhat 9 were decent | May 30 00:36 |
| oiaohm | FC4-FC5 is when fedora started turning into a heavy test bed. | May 30 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is hit or miss. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | They finally got the distribution upgrade thing to work right from what I've read. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | That only took forever. | May 30 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, some people only had problems because of AtRPMs or something, which clobbers system files and tends to create conflicts when you dist-upgrade | May 30 00:41 |
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| cubexyz | I may load up whatever fb I need for the slack box | May 30 00:42 |
| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-backspace and then stuck in an unresponsive console :-/ | May 30 00:43 |
| cubexyz | and I see that's been a problem for slack for a while now | May 30 00:43 |
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| cubexyz | I wonder if it's just "modprobe intelfb" | May 30 00:46 |
| cubexyz | maybe I'll just telinit 3 intead | May 30 00:57 |
| cubexyz | I used to just "init 3" | May 30 00:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@trevortimm: Nothing says "let's celebrate the First Amendment!" like "please don't criticize the president who wants to see us… https://t.co/7ZJWMwuo3I | May 30 01:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@trevortimm: Nothing says "let's celebrate the First Amendment!" like "please don't criticize the president who wants to see us… https://t.co/7ZJWMwuo3I | May 30 01:00 | |
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| cubexyz | ok, fbset --info says "inteldrmfb" | May 30 01:03 |
| cubexyz | so maybe that's not even a LKM | May 30 01:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines | May 30 01:04 | |
| cubexyz | ok, then I'll just /sbin/telinit 3 from now on | May 30 01:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Just another gentle reminder: starting this weekend (back | May 30 01:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz home) @tuxmachines will handle most of the #gnu #linux | May 30 01:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #freesw news (not me) | May 30 01:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE / #Qt : Qt 5.9 RC2, #Qbs 1.8, and #FreeBSD KDE | May 30 01:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #SparkyLinux 4.6 to Be Based on #Debian #GNU #Linux 9 | May 30 01:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 4.6 to Be Based on Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch," Will Use Linux 4.11 | Tux Machines | May 30 01:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 28-Way #NVIDIA #GeForce GPU Comparison On #Ubuntu : From | May 30 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 https://t.co/IMcJqFQf2n | May 30 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #canonical #gnu #linux #phoronix | May 30 01:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 28-Way NVIDIA GeForce GPU Comparison On Ubuntu: From GeForce 8 To GeForce 1080 | Tux Machines | May 30 01:56 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869424146693869568 | May 30 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Today in #Techrights https://t.co/1ooyKFLWFG | May 30 06:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | May 30 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869425073014185984 | May 30 06:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Today in #Techrights https://t.co/1ooyKFLWFG | May 30 06:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869441626191446016 | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu / #Debian: #Peppermint 8, #BlackLab Enterprise | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 11, #UbuntuPhone, and Debian/ #TeXLive 2017 | May 30 07:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/NlJmqe33aE (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 30 07:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu/Debian: Peppermint 8, Black Lab Enterprise Linux 11, Ubuntu Phone, and Debian/TeX Live 2017 | Tux Machines | May 30 07:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "zesty" 17.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (500MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (13.5 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 69.5 GB / 1.0 TB (941.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Iris Graphics 540 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 13m 12s | May 30 07:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No more Windows 10 on this computer. | May 30 07:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869464376692031488 | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Not #backtowork until next week. Looking forward to | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | passing most/all #gnu #linux stuff to @tuxmachines | May 30 09:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (better partitioning) #backtowork | May 30 09:05 |
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| MinceR | cubexyz: not sure about that, rpm and whatever they put on top of it probably always sucked | May 30 19:34 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/pW5MGiL.jpg (gallery: http://imgur.com/gallery/pW5MGiL ) | May 30 19:36 |
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| MinceR | -1 | May 30 20:04 |
| MinceR | damn lag | May 30 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 30 21:51 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux #unix #howto | May 30 21:51 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/ogijKoUeLa #microsoft #windows #gnu #linux #debian' | May 30 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Graphics News https://t.co/0H0DfFGIVM #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux...' | May 30 21:52 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/WKtKWiCpxn #gnu #linux #unix #howto' | May 30 21:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ExponetUSA/status/869659306182021122 | May 30 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Graphics News https://t.co/0H0DfFGIVM (tuxmachines.org) | May 30 22:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ExponetUSA #drm #graphics #mesa #vulkan #linux #freesw | May 30 22:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869661053675753472 | May 30 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d | May 30 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | May 30 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 30 22:06 | |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/146Uguq.jpg | May 30 22:08 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 30 22:09 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @aubergineFTW @vegantittie @RomPomPopperty @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour https://t.co/3kHleIFlSg | May 30 22:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @UKLabour https://t.co/zNpR4ixrSv | May 30 22:09 | |
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| MinceR | >VII) Multi-monitors is a client problem. Same with multiple graphics cards (Optimus). Wayland only wants buffers filled with pixel and to be told where to display them. It doesn't care how they got there. | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | i wonder how that's supposed to work | May 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | >X) As a security precaution...your screensaver and locker are apart of the compositor. This has an added benefit because your compositor (Eg: kwin) DOES understand your media keys, so even while your screen is locked you can still mute your media. | May 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | bloat | May 30 22:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869672661319770112 | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 22:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 22:52 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @bestariwebhost retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app...' | May 30 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as Cobol app moves to x86 Linux | Tux Machines | May 30 22:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869672794002292737 | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Swisscom to cut mainframe spend as #Cobol app moves to | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz x86 Linux https://t.co/XeghevyWA4 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu | May 30 23:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #lzlabs #mainframe | May 30 23:13 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/FNaQNYhA9d #gnu #linux #freesw' | May 30 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 30 23:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#WineStaging 2.9 https://t.co/w4Yz3iCz4T #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix...' | May 30 23:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Wine Staging 2.9 | Tux Machines | May 30 23:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxusergroup/status/869683919838363649 | May 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #WineStaging 2.9 https://t.co/w4Yz3iCz4T | May 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @linuxusergroup (tuxmachines.org) #wine #freesw #gnu #linux #unix | May 30 23:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #reactos | May 30 23:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | insubordination to the legal demands of the police, and | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | mass disorder." https://t.co/4K9HunhG1v (twitter.com) | May 31 00:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-advox.globalvoices.org | Russian Math Instructor Faces Criminal Charges for Online Posts He Says He Didn’t Write - Global Voices Advocacy | May 31 00:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869704264913887232 | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 31 00:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 31 00:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GTK and GNOME News | Tux Machines | May 31 00:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/nKnwOfYAli | May 31 01:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw #gps | May 31 01:33 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869720446819647488 | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 02:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 02:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Software: Image Editing, OpenShot, FreeTuxTV, Nageru, and Scribus | Tux Machines | May 31 02:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ptheoiasptk/status/869765335305662465 | May 31 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Software: Image Editing, #OpenShot, #FreeTuxTV, #Nageru, | May 31 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ptheoiasptk and #Scribus https://t.co/a1jY7TLLRT (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 05:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #freesw #gnu #linux | May 31 05:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Software: Image Editing, OpenShot, FreeTuxTV, Nageru, and Scribus | Tux Machines | May 31 05:39 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869800208179240960 | May 31 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 07:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 07:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | 2018 Toyota Camry packs an open-source Linux-based infotainment system | Tux Machines | May 31 07:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869800361317384192 | May 31 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based | May 31 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz infotainment system https://t.co/c4otjx41QJ | May 31 07:47 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '2018 #Toyota #Camry packs an open-source #Linux -based...' | May 31 08:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @2green https://twitter.com/2green/status/869812538233507840 | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | The latest Linux Stuff Daily! https://t.co/clvOgTzbPq | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (paper.li) Thanks to @linuxsound @tuxmachines @katun79 | May 31 08:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #kernel | May 31 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | Linux Stuff Daily | May 31 08:14 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814335031222272 | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #games #gnu #linux #gaming | May 31 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 08:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814472042463232 | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/hyWydCjIk6 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #howto #unix #gnu #linux | May 31 08:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 31 08:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814571313360898 | May 31 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/ZiWoWlJ57C | May 31 08:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, | May 31 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GitHub, #ScyllaDB, #Gollvm and More | May 31 08:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/vXhKEC4mtx (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 08:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Development: Red Hat on Java, Coding Camp, Bitnami, GitHub, ScyllaDB, Gollvm and More | Tux Machines | May 31 08:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869814922489679872 | May 31 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 31 08:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat | Tux Machines | May 31 08:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/869815159836954624 | May 31 08:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers: #Nokia, #Asus, #YouTube, and | May 31 08:18 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Gaming News https://t.co/0VOxlQczOZ #games #gnu #linux #gaming' | May 31 08:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/hyWydCjIk6 #howto #unix #gnu #linux' | May 31 08:18 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/ZiWoWlJ57C' | May 31 08:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers: Nokia, Asus, YouTube, and Android Pay | Tux Machines | May 31 08:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Gaming News | Tux Machines | May 31 08:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Development: #RedHat on #Java, Coding Camp, #Bitnami, #GitHub,...' | May 31 08:19 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ #gnu #linux' | May 31 08:19 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Fedora and #RedHat https://t.co/HL9Z8jciKJ | May 31 09:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | May 31 09:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/sf4X0Ejk3q | May 31 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 15:29 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #youtube #waze #korea | May 31 15:29 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/869923719119949824 | May 31 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/sf4X0Ejk3q | May 31 15:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #volvo #andyrubin | May 31 15:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts | May 31 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/gPZa4W4DNX (tuxmachines.org) #gplv3 #europe | May 31 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #eu #licensing #freesw | May 31 17:50 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#EUPL Becomes #GPLv3 -compatible, #GPL Defended by Courts...' | May 31 18:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MarvinJRees @jeremycorbyn @AngelaRayner https://t.co/RYTmHWDueT' | May 31 18:03 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/auWavpz.jpg | May 31 18:46 |
| MinceR | http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/dd2-19.jpg | May 31 18:50 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/qMWEWaj.gifv | May 31 19:02 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Questioning may be tough and unfair. Seeing...' | May 31 19:32 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/phone-sex | May 31 20:03 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn Questioning may be tough and...' | May 31 20:21 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Maybe they'll spend the next 7 years...' | May 31 20:21 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlpddwFq4bg | May 31 20:21 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Maybe they'll spend the next...' | May 31 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870000506231439360 | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and #Kubernetes...' | May 31 20:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ITCrowdsource/status/870002394783916032 | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ITCrowdsource #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 20:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @funder @joncoopertweets @JoyAnnReid @justin_kanew @Derry_London @NathanLerner @safeagain1...' | May 31 20:49 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange @funder @joncoopertweets @JoyAnnReid @justin_kanew @Derry_London...' | May 31 20:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sockeyes51_bot/status/870006698521444352 | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Containers: #Cisco, #CoreOS, Blocks of Containers, and | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @sockeyes51_bot #Kubernetes https://t.co/kgJHA7tAWd (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #openstack #freesw | May 31 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 21:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange Swedes wrongly accused of murder: https://t.co/mV9A6eF4hM …...' | May 31 21:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange Swedes wrongly accused of murder:...' | May 31 21:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn https://t.co/s02zrWqZlf' | May 31 21:05 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn https://t.co/s02zrWqZlf' | May 31 21:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870009329864200193 | May 31 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by @JulianAssange We came, we saw, he died. | May 31 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://t.co/BdO8CijqJX | May 31 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 21:23 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange We came, we saw, he...' | May 31 21:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange @Recode Lawyer speak. Like: I make a...' | May 31 21:24 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | May 31 21:28 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange @Recode Lawyer speak. Like: I...' | May 31 21:38 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn #wengerout I mean, #toriesOut https://t.co/1XkQ6AzVlb...' | May 31 21:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I've hit two weird bugs in Ubuntu so far. | May 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME doesn't remember my backlight preferences and to connect to my Bluetooth soundbar I have to do this every boot. | May 31 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | https://askubuntu.com/questions/824404/bluetooth-speaker-connected-but-not-listed-in-sound-output | May 31 21:45 |
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| MinceR | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/great-barrier-reef-dying-coral-bleaching-global-warming-australia-climate-change-a7761351.html | May 31 22:05 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Yze4nll.gifv | May 31 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870040937350574080 | May 31 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 23:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 23:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870041529473130496 | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Tizen Spreading in Homes https://t.co/CDRLxZIvWh | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #tizen #linux #tizenOS #samsung | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870045224633905152 | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 23:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870045372067880960 | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/cPOGpm0K7n (tuxmachines.org) #plasma #gnu | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #bsd #unix #kf5 | May 31 23:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE: #Krita, #FreeBSD, #Cutelyst 1.7.0, and #Qt ...' | May 31 23:50 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | May 31 23:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870049829157609472 | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel | May 31 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:53 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Mesa Development News https://t.co/P2r04fQImu #graphics #linux #freesw #kernel' | May 31 23:58 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870051878385590272 | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | May 31 23:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | May 31 23:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870052152915378176 | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by 21-Way NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler/Maxwell/Pascal #OpenCL #GPU | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Comparison https://t.co/jQkAbrzLw0 (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #nvidia #graphics #gnu #linux #benchmark | Jun 01 00:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870054465423810560 | Jun 01 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil | Jun 01 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 00:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:10 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Leftovers https://t.co/27xKCbuRil' | Jun 01 00:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870055044787261440 | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian 8.8, | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu 17.04, #CentOS 7, #ClearLinux | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/qgNFYU5Hbi (tuxmachines.org) #benchmark #gnu | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 01 00:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:14 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian...' | Jun 01 00:14 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @KU5H4L retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Early Look At #Debian 9.0 Performance vs. Debian...' | Jun 01 00:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870057274256916480 | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | Jun 01 00:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870057350077468672 | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/spYstBRkSz | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz (tuxmachines.org) #android #linux #google #androidpay | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #blackberry #oneplus | Jun 01 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 00:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a lot more...' | Jun 01 00:54 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @JulianAssange If anything, Wikileaks is a...' | Jun 01 01:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do immediately; the...' | Jun 01 01:09 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @MuckRock @JulianAssange "The illegal we do...' | Jun 01 01:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076685537861632 | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Conference 2017, #RISCV Workshop https://t.co/g2E5GQwczu | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #germany #suse | Jun 01 01:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076802558853120 | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #linux | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870076940757024768 | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/4LnU6eQhxr (tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 01 01:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077044654096384 | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #linux #gnu #howto | Jun 01 01:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077236996591616 | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 01 01:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events and Talks: #openSUSE Conference 2017, #ownCloud Conference...' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kernel and #Graphics News https://t.co/NFZkAe6whl #linux' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: #Tilix, #Guake, #Scribus, #TeamViewer and More ...' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO #unix #linux #gnu #howto' | Jun 01 01:40 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077737544728576 | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 01 01:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:42 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077834663927809 | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux | Jun 01 01:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870077969246543872 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Hackathon https://t.co/kqwfyR2X9F (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #chrome #google #freesw | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078124725227521 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX (tuxmachines.org) #freesw #db | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870078216010055680 | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux #freesw | Jun 01 01:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Server Side: #MariaDB, #IBM, and #Microsoft https://t.co/ARFYIbIbvX #freesw...' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @jayd_1992 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Web Browsers: #WebAssembly and #Mozilla 's Open-Source Hackathon...' | Jun 01 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/Yrhw6atRPk #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian and #Ubuntu https://t.co/JIvnpV6iLu #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Red Hat News https://t.co/r98FHCxyvo #redhat #gnu #linux' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GTK and #GNOME News https://t.co/RNDuFA28Zw #gnu #linux #freesw' | Jun 01 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/870079237868453890 | Jun 01 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/j6SGU5hgoO (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 01 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Pros_P33 #unix #linux #gnu #howto | Jun 01 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 01:48 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 01 03:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870102579111276544 | Jun 01 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by ks 1/6/2017: #KDE #Plasma 5.10, #Qt 5.9 Released | Jun 01 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/5L1YVEsdAQ (techrights.org) … #techrights | Jun 01 04:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 01 04:00 | |
| cubexyz | neo geo games on gog | Jun 01 04:33 |
| cubexyz | of course mame has that pretty well covered | Jun 01 04:34 |
| cubexyz | gog seems to be the go to place for retro gaming | Jun 01 04:35 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 01 07:53 |
| sebsebseb | razielle_tzu: ping | Jun 01 07:53 |
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| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28270 | Jun 01 10:09 |
| liberty_box | " Some of those apparently referenced ETs. I feel like I'm missing part of the story when I read them." | Jun 01 10:09 |
| liberty_box | https://mastodon.blue/users/LWFlouisa/updates/28271 | Jun 01 10:10 |
| liberty_box | "yes yes I know. Ufo buff." | Jun 01 10:10 |
| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1781 | Jun 01 10:17 |
| liberty_box | " Air travel outside the US can still be reasonably nice. I fly a lot, and as long as you choose the right airline it's very nice." | Jun 01 10:17 |
| liberty_box | The airports can be part of the problem and there is rarely any choice for some routes (de facto monopoly, no competition, treat people like dirt) | Jun 01 10:18 |
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| liberty_box | https://twitter.com/johnbarbirolli/status/870209754248892416 | Jun 01 10:26 |
| liberty_box | Negros | Jun 01 10:26 |
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| liberty_box | https://functional.cafe/users/loke/updates/1787 | Jun 01 10:28 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Jun 01 10:33 |
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| MinceR | http://assets.amuniversal.com/85ff62200b5301359a72005056a9545d (sauce: http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-05-09 ) | Jun 01 23:24 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks So basically, don't use #microsoft #windows' | Jun 02 15:06 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: back home | Jun 02 15:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you send irc logs at your time of convenience (not urgent at all) | Jun 02 15:51 |
| zoobab_ | pong | Jun 02 15:52 |
| zoobab_ | I think I saw the Bundesrat moving on UPC this week | Jun 02 15:53 |
| zoobab_ | so it is time to work on an appeal in DE | Jun 02 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't have time at the moment | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | will watch your feed | Jun 02 16:07 |
| schestowitz | I was away from home 18 days | Jun 02 16:07 |
| zoobab_ | holidays? | Jun 02 16:11 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 02 16:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cubexyz et al: did someone relates to EPO say something in this channel in past 3 weeks? | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Or looked for me specifically, e.g. regarding new info/leak? | Jun 02 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't able to keep up | Jun 02 16:16 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may It's probably not up to her....' | Jun 02 17:42 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may While older people, like those who...' | Jun 02 20:22 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may She can handle smalltalk (I spoke...' | Jun 02 20:27 | |
| gde33 | MinceR: I talk with a guy driving a train one time about the amount of animals killed by rail traffic per day. He said all speed estimates of all bird species are wrong. He regularly chased birds with speeds up to 120 km/h and some just manage to fly away in the face of imminent death. | Jun 02 20:30 |
| gde33 | He regularly saw a variaty of small birds hit 140 | Jun 02 20:31 |
| gde33 | then when he looked up the species he got figures like in the article 24 mph | Jun 02 20:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870743052071170048 | Jun 02 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB | Jun 02 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #nokia #aosp #google | Jun 02 21:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #cyanogen | Jun 02 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 02 21:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 21:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 21:46 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 21:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/870743999635705856 | Jun 02 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB | Jun 02 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @owlbelief (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux #nokia #aosp #google | Jun 02 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #cyanogen | Jun 02 21:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 21:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870745790280605696 | Jun 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and #GearFit | Jun 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/PHvHJN3Jtt (www.tuxmachines.org) #samsung | Jun 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #tizenOS | Jun 02 21:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 21:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and Gear Fit | Tux Machines | Jun 02 21:56 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Tizen News: New Release, New Game, and #GearFit...' | Jun 02 21:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 21:58 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/Q2htxg8aiB #linux #nokia #aosp #google #cyanogen' | Jun 02 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Maybe that's why she was never...' | Jun 02 22:03 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited retweet 'RT @schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Maybe that's why she...' | Jun 02 22:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870748697923080192 | Jun 02 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Toyota 's Linux #Love in the News | Jun 02 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/zX67MlCytl (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 02 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #driving #infotainment #freesw | Jun 02 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Jun 02 22:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toyota's Linux Love in the News | Tux Machines | Jun 02 22:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Some more Lenovo laptops locked to RAID | Jun 02 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Ideapad-710S-Plus-13IKB-not-just-710s-13IKB-BIOS-supporting-AHCI/td-p/3645033 | Jun 02 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Ideapad 710S Plus-13IKB (not just 710s-13IKB), BIOS supporting AHCI mode and LINUX installation. - Lenovo Community | Jun 02 22:09 | |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/RAID-lock-again-on-Miix-720/td-p/3667864 | Jun 02 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | RAID lock again on Miix 720 - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9un ] | Jun 02 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: as before? | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly as before, schestowitz | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, one guy says they just deleted his post about it completely. | Jun 02 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/No-Linux-BIOS-for-ideapad-710S-quot-Plus-13IKB-quot/td-p/3586694 | Jun 02 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Solved: No Linux BIOS for ideapad 710S "Plus-13IKB" - Lenovo Community [ http://ur1.ca/qy9uv ] | Jun 02 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | "I had posted this problem to the thread in this February, and my message disappeared after few days. I'm not accusing the admin removed my post, but it just disappeared. | Jun 02 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Jun 02 22:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I think Lenovo is reluctant to release Linux BIOS. Why not purchasing laptop from other vendor? I refunded the ideapad and bought ASUS ZenBook UX410UQ. It has a similar spec, a lower cost, a normal right Shift key, and Linux can be installed in a breeze. " | Jun 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | keep on eye on this for updates | Jun 02 22:12 |
| schestowitz | let's bring some heat | Jun 02 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 02 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 02 22:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/870748963804262400 | Jun 02 22:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #Toyota 's Linux #Love in the News | Jun 02 22:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I might try out Fedora 26. No Beta release yet but there's a nightly image that should be pretty close. | Jun 02 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard it's pretty stable already. GNOME Software accidentally upgraded one guy to the Alpha and he said he used it for weeks before realizing it. | Jun 02 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME has gotten pretty good, actually. I don't know why they don't ship it with the desktop shell extensions on. | Jun 02 22:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ | Jun 03 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux | Jun 03 01:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #RileyBrandt : How do you Fedora? | Jun 03 03:35 |
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| cubexyz | ok, more thoughts percolating about UEFI... | Jun 03 04:23 |
| cubexyz | we can safely say there are offerings from HP and Lenovo which are hostile | Jun 03 04:24 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-hostile-bios.txt | Jun 03 04:24 |
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| cubexyz | ASUS P8Z68-V had a good feature... none of this windows-only or dos-floppy rubbish for BIOS updates | Jun 03 04:37 |
| cubexyz | .rom file on a USB stick and off you go | Jun 03 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Booting to DOS was how I upgraded the BIOS on that Foxconn motherboard, in 2008... :P | Jun 03 04:43 |
| cubexyz | ok, on one machine I got free-dos but still... I wouldn't want to have to use that for BIOS updates | Jun 03 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | I made a boot USB stick with FreeDOS and put the BIOS update in a folder. | Jun 03 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | Not convenient, but better than installing Windows to update the BIOS. | Jun 03 04:45 |
| cubexyz | ASUS has a thing they called Flashback | Jun 03 04:45 |
| cubexyz | you don't even need CPU or memory to use it | Jun 03 04:46 |
| cubexyz | But... | Jun 03 04:46 |
| cubexyz | the USB stick does have to be formatted for FAT or NTFS | Jun 03 04:47 |
| cubexyz | of course that is using an UEFI BIOS | Jun 03 04:49 |
| cubexyz | not really ideal... but still an improvement | Jun 03 04:51 |
| cubexyz | in coreboot-land we have the flashrom utility | Jun 03 04:56 |
| cubexyz | so assuming you have a working coreboot rom file you can just update the BIOS from linux | Jun 03 04:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: fat is licensed to be used for UEFI stuff without charge. | Jun 03 04:59 |
| cubexyz | ah but you still pay the BIOS tax | Jun 03 05:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: no Microsoft licensed it for free for UEFI to prevent ext4 from being used. | Jun 03 05:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SMARC module and dev kit run Linux on dual-core Renesas SoC | Tux Machines | Jun 03 05:01 | |
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| cubexyz | American Megatrends still gets paid | Jun 03 05:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: intel threatened to write either ext4 of udf into the spec if there was going to be licensing costs. | Jun 03 05:01 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: neither windows supports well on harddrives. | Jun 03 05:01 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I spread around your pist | Jun 03 05:01 |
| schestowitz | (post also) | Jun 03 05:01 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, what I mean is that the BIOS company is still paid by whoever makes the motherboard | Jun 03 05:02 |
| cubexyz | AMI or whoever it is | Jun 03 05:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #SMARC module and dev kit run #Linux on dual-core | Jun 03 05:02 |
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| cubexyz | there are a few (very few) special cases that use coreboot but it's rare | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: using intel reference UEFI they don't have to pay either. | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations | Jun 03 05:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations | Tux Machines | Jun 03 05:03 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://www.tianocore.org/ intels reference UEFI implementation. | Jun 03 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tianocore.org | Welcome | Jun 03 05:04 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really I don't understand why so many motherboard makers are paying third parties. | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870853512539906048 | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Jun 03 05:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/p84JjXFxDl (www.linux.com) #gnu #linux | Jun 03 05:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AryaLinux Focuses More on Source Than Simplicity | Linux.com | The source for Linux information | Jun 03 05:05 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The problem with Linux packaging in large organizations...' | Jun 03 05:05 | |
| cubexyz | writing a BIOS is kind of hard | Jun 03 05:06 |
| cubexyz | much easier (although not ideal) to license from AMI or Phoenix or whoever is still around | Jun 03 05:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I understood it when intel and amd were not providing functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 05:06 |
| cubexyz | there's something up with Intel EDAC as well... | Jun 03 05:07 |
| oiaohm | Things have changed there are functional reference implementations. | Jun 03 05:07 |
| cubexyz | I heard some people complain about that | Jun 03 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.ft.com/content/71d92114-4704-11e7-8519-9f94ee97d996 | Jun 03 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Jun 03 05:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Not good for users. | Jun 03 05:07 |
| cubexyz | it's TRON all over again :-/ | Jun 03 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | It's Google's plan to paywall the entire web. | Jun 03 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | And good luck getting the former Verizon lawyer at the FCC to do anything about it. | Jun 03 05:09 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't balk at paying for Scientific American | Jun 03 05:14 |
| cubexyz | I bought a ton of magazines back in the day | Jun 03 05:14 |
| cubexyz | 60 bucks a month is expensive though | Jun 03 05:15 |
| cubexyz | All access (access all the way back to 1845) is $99 | Jun 03 05:19 |
| cubexyz | per year I think that is | Jun 03 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | I just feel like it's nickel and diming. | Jun 03 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | And you know that Google's idea of acceptable ads will still have a lot of the shit that drove people to use ad blockers. | Jun 03 05:22 |
| cubexyz | well the ads everywhere are annoying, yes | Jun 03 05:23 |
| cubexyz | during a hockey game they even show full screen ads during the game broadcast | Jun 03 05:29 |
| cubexyz | if there's a timeout | Jun 03 05:29 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: this is always the problem. Hardware that supports the internet does cost money to keep operating | Jun 03 05:34 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: same with TV and everything else. | Jun 03 05:34 |
| cubexyz | http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/commerciallength.htm | Jun 03 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.waynesthisandthat.com | Growth of TV Time taken up by Commercials | Jun 03 05:36 | |
| cubexyz | it keeps getting worse, although it did seem to improve slightly or at least reached a maximum of 33% | Jun 03 05:37 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you need to look at TV show cost of production. | Jun 03 05:38 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you have to remember 1952 the people in the shows were getting very low wages and the operating costs were quite low. | Jun 03 05:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so as the cost to produce the shows have gone up so has the volume of advertisement gone up. | Jun 03 05:40 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: cost of productions started leveling out in 2001 as well. | Jun 03 05:42 |
| cubexyz | it's reached a saturation point I'd say | Jun 03 05:43 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_96_%28TV_series%29 think about the insanity of this show from 1973 | Jun 03 05:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Number 96 (TV series) - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qybnb ] | Jun 03 05:43 | |
| cubexyz | run more ads now, you'll lose part of the audience | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it was recorded and broadcast live with only 3 camera. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: any goof went straight to air. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you don't see shows like that any more. | Jun 03 05:44 |
| cubexyz | there's still live tv | Jun 03 05:45 |
| cubexyz | weather, sports etc | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | To be correct most on a time delay these days. | Jun 03 05:45 |
| cubexyz | that is true | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Why you see rapid cut to adds at times of operated are awake. | Jun 03 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Also if you watch advertisement counts they go down in the news and the like. | Jun 03 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Because they are lower cost productions. | Jun 03 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Our TV adverisement problem is mostly being addicted to highly expensive to produce programs to watch. | Jun 03 05:47 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: here in Australia we have a SBS channel they don't put advertisement slots in shows. Only advertisement at start and end and choose lower cost to produce productions to make every balance out. | Jun 03 05:49 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so a lower advertisement channels can be done. | Jun 03 05:49 |
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| cubexyz | I can't really recall 1970s australian tv shows | Jun 03 07:00 |
| cubexyz | maybe Mission Magic? Did they show that in Australia? | Jun 03 07:02 |
| cubexyz | old cartoon, had Rick Springfield in it | Jun 03 07:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Golden Girls - Wikipedia | Jun 03 07:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @jeremycorbyn @theresa_may Rule by oligarchy https://t.co/hacP0JZToh https://t.co/Dt7UJ2TrlY | Jun 03 07:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | The first 5 things to do when your Linux server keels | Jun 03 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | over https://t.co/vwHUHsA4eg (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 03 07:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux #server | Jun 03 07:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The first 5 things to do when your Linux server keels over | Tux Machines | Jun 03 07:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870888037185720325 | Jun 03 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Best Retro Gaming Emulators for Linux | Jun 03 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/ZpYsbMZl5f (www.maketecheasier.com) #games | Jun 03 07:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 03 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Best Retro Gaming Emulators for Linux - Make Tech Easier | Jun 03 07:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870888439964729344 | Jun 03 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | A list of open source tools for college | Jun 03 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ey07usCrUI (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw | Jun 03 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #education | Jun 03 07:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A list of open source tools for college | Tux Machines | Jun 03 07:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #KDE #Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop, Improves | Jun 03 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Search https://t.co/qHtfaeG5cY (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 03 07:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 07:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop, Improves Search | Tux Machines | Jun 03 07:24 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'A list of open source tools for college...' | Jun 03 07:25 | |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: 1970 australia light on cartoons you lots of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_Productions Crawfords Productions stuff. | Jun 03 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Crawford Productions - Wikipedia [ http://ur1.ca/qyc82 ] | Jun 03 07:44 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited '#KDE #Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop,...' | Jun 03 07:47 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I think it was you who mentioned about https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6exb6e/lenovo_locking_linux_out_of_at_least_a_couple_of/ This is kind of wrong to blame lenovo the issue is a Intel made raid controller. | Jun 03 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Lenovo locking Linux out of at least a couple of laptops again. : linux [ http://ur1.ca/qy9x8 ] | Jun 03 07:47 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Linux still does not support a particular feature. | Jun 03 07:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that mode uses the SSD as a cache to the hdd. | Jun 03 07:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#KDE #Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop,...' | Jun 03 07:52 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: well done, it's gaining traction | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | and Lenovo won't be loving this | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | they need to check which components they choose | Jun 03 07:54 |
| schestowitz | need to rid themselves of that lasting impression of "Microsoft First" or "Microsoft Only" | Jun 03 07:56 |
| schestowitz | ThinkPads were all about choice when they took over | Jun 03 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, There is no HDD. | Jun 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | These systems are SSD only. | Jun 03 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | Really fast. | Jun 03 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Fedora release 26 (Twenty Six) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6560U CPU @ 2.20GHz (500MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (12.7 GiB Free) Swap: 7.7 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 75.0 GB / 558.0 GB (483.0 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Iris Graphics 540 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 51m 26s | Jun 03 08:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the mode I mentioned. It can operate without hdd as well. | Jun 03 08:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that raid mode allowed bipassing a stack of poor performing optimisations in windows. | Jun 03 08:18 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: It would be interesting if Linux had access to the same mode if it would provide the performance boosts as it does under windows. | Jun 03 08:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/bestariwebhost/status/870895866042875904 | Jun 03 08:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by #KDE #Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop, Improves | Jun 03 08:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @bestariwebhost Search https://t.co/qHtfaeG5cY (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu | Jun 03 08:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #linux | Jun 03 08:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.10 Puts Folders on Linux Desktop, Improves Search | Tux Machines | Jun 03 08:45 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn @UKLabour They rob us and then tell...' | Jun 03 09:04 | |
| cubexyz | ppfftt, come on | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | it's all just software... | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | nothing magical or better about windows | Jun 03 09:08 |
| cubexyz | we can complain about obscurantism though | Jun 03 09:09 |
| cubexyz | since that's all that's holding Linux et all back | Jun 03 09:10 |
| cubexyz | but I find it amusing that Sony made Linux TVs | Jun 03 09:11 |
| cubexyz | rather than pay $$$ to their hated rival | Jun 03 09:11 |
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| cubexyz | even more amusing... Bell used Linux PVRs | Jun 03 09:13 |
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| cubexyz | hard drive had an ext2 partition... they figured people would find it harder to copy the files off of it | Jun 03 09:14 |
| cubexyz | of course, you have to remove the hard drive from the unit' | Jun 03 09:14 |
| cubexyz | btw channel master PVR's used the same thing | Jun 03 09:18 |
| cubexyz | EXT file system | Jun 03 09:18 |
| cubexyz | and you can use an external hard drive with it :) | Jun 03 09:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Links 3/6/2017: AryaLinux and BitKey Reviewed | Jun 03 10:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/870932092175224832 | Jun 03 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Security News https://t.co/FDIry40wcW (tuxmachines.org) | Jun 03 10:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #microsoft #windows #vault7 #pacemaler #europe | Jun 03 10:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Security News | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/SkSp8GjxtZ | Jun 03 10:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: OSS and Sharing | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft's Latest Stunts https://t.co/jbTSbzMWlw | Jun 03 10:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #vista10 | Jun 03 10:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Microsoft's Latest Stunts | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | today's leftovers at #tuxmachines | Jun 03 10:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 03 10:17 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Microsoft's Latest Stunts https://t.co/jbTSbzMWlw #microsoft #windows #vista10' | Jun 03 10:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/jurylady5/status/870933460747079680 | Jun 03 11:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @jurylady5 (tuxmachines.org) #microsoft #windows #vista10 | Jun 03 11:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Plan of separating #freesw and #gnu #linux news from the | Jun 03 15:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rest using @tuxmachines ... so far, so good. Feedback | Jun 03 15:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | welcome/appreciated. | Jun 03 15:17 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @TimberGhost7 retweeted @schestowitz: 'Plan of separating #freesw and #gnu #linux news...' | Jun 03 15:18 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Links 3/6/2017: AryaLinux and BitKey Reviewed | Jun 03 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz https://t.co/zAYMoTObpD (techrights.org) | Jun 03 16:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/6/2017: AryaLinux and BitKey Reviewed | Techrights | Jun 03 16:09 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 03 19:08 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 03 19:08 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 03 19:08 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | What publication method best nowadays? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Microblogging (many posts)? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Several short blog posts? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Few very detailed articles? | Jun 03 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I want change... | Jun 03 19:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming | Jun 03 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | early June https://t.co/xlIXTjlbum (www.tuxmachines.org) | Jun 03 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jun 03 19:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming early June | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:55 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | How the #Moby Project Pivots Docker’s Open Source | Jun 03 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Business Model https://t.co/CPpmy7WnGY | Jun 03 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker #freesw #server | Jun 03 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How the Moby Project Pivots Docker’s Open Source Business Model | Tux Machines | Jun 03 19:57 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LinuxMint 18.2 “Sonya” is near, beta release coming...' | Jun 03 19:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/871078945835319296 | Jun 03 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Predictive Policing and Software Freedom: Should the | Jun 03 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Police Use Open Source? https://t.co/USnbYfdXCa | Jun 03 20:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #police #freesw #accountability | Jun 03 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Predictive Policing and Software Freedom: Should the Police Use Open Source? | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy | Jun 03 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | 12-Way #RadeonSI #OpenGL Comparison vs. #NVIDIA On | Jun 03 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Ubuntu #Linux https://t.co/AMC91s5VBj | Jun 03 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #graphics #benchmark #radeon | Jun 03 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 12-Way RadeonSI OpenGL Comparison vs. NVIDIA On Ubuntu Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 03 20:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by How the #Moby Project Pivots Docker’s Open Source | Jun 03 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @Cypersmart Business Model https://t.co/CPpmy7WnGY | Jun 03 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) #docker #freesw #server | Jun 03 20:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | #TrueOS STABLE Update: June 2, 2017 | Jun 03 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/leN3evusjO (www.tuxmachines.org) #pcsbd | Jun 03 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #unix #bsd | Jun 03 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueOS STABLE Update: June 2, 2017 | Tux Machines | Jun 03 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/871096151050784768 | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 51 GPUs Tested, From The #Radeon HD 2900XT To RX 580 & R9 | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fury: Testing The 2017 Driver Stack | Jun 03 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/6I6lN14G7V (www.tuxmachines.org) #benchmark | Jun 03 21:09 |
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