IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October 22nd, 2017 – October 28th, 2017

MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aVMRDxn	Oct 22 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-France be like - 9GAG		Oct 22 00:11
XRevan86	hm, how to pronounce that "a" with a circumflex	Oct 22 00:16
MinceR	probably just like one without a circumflex	Oct 22 00:16
MinceR	afaik the circumflex only denotes that something was elided there	Oct 22 00:17
MinceR	like hostel -> hôtel	Oct 22 00:17
XRevan86	I guess it's something like "raa-pee"	Oct 22 00:17
XRevan86	"râpé"	Oct 22 00:22
XRevan86	managed to spell it :)	Oct 22 00:22
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%82#French	Oct 22 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Â - Wikipedia		Oct 22 00:29
XRevan86	MinceR: Ah, yes, I see what you mean.	Oct 22 00:29
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/w9U4I	Oct 22 00:31
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/QbZdlRV	Oct 22 00:43
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/GkrjYPU.jpg?1	Oct 22 00:43
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9 Âkos' ġovno ce e…	Oct 22 00:47
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XRevan86	(Some crap this is)	Oct 22 00:47
MinceR	:D	Oct 22 00:48
XRevan86	worst transliteration map ever %)	Oct 22 00:49
XRevan86	and it's ISO	Oct 22 00:49
MinceR	what's the stuff from Ä to Å doing in cyrillic anyway?	Oct 22 00:49
XRevan86	MinceR: No idea, it's not in East Slavic languages.	Oct 22 00:51
XRevan86	MinceR: It's amusing to me how worthless this transition is.	Oct 22 00:52
XRevan86	because without understanding the original Cyrillic alphabet of the particular original language, the result stays ambigious	Oct 22 00:53
XRevan86	For instance, "Е" in Russian is like "Є" in Ukrainian and "Е" in Ukrainian is like "Э" in Russian.	Oct 22 00:55
MinceR	€!	Oct 22 00:55
XRevan86	"е" (and Ukrainian "є") when standing not next to a vowel, has a "j" sound appended before	Oct 22 00:55
XRevan86	but when before a vowel, it adds softness to the consonant before it	Oct 22 00:56
MinceR	reading out loud is not the only purpose of writing though	Oct 22 00:56
XRevan86	so with 1-to-1 mapping the reader should already know that	Oct 22 00:56
MinceR	if it was, you could just use IPA for everything	Oct 22 00:56
XRevan86	MinceR: Even transliteration to English isn't that messy	Oct 22 00:57
XRevan86	> Âkos' ġovno ce e…	Oct 22 00:57
XRevan86	Yakos' ghovno (or hovno) tse ye…	Oct 22 00:57
MinceR	yeah, because it tries to suggest pronunciation	Oct 22 00:57
XRevan86	MinceR: But if pronouncing is not needed, why not just stick with the original alphabet?	Oct 22 00:58
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Oct 22 00:58
MinceR	technological reasons?	Oct 22 00:59
MinceR	easier comparison with slavic languages that use latin writing?	Oct 22 00:59
XRevan86	MinceR: All those special letters are way beyond ASCII…	Oct 22 00:59
XRevan86	> easier comparison with slavic languages that use latin writing?	Oct 22 01:00
XRevan86	Well, I guess…	Oct 22 01:00
MinceR	might still be easier to render on a printer	Oct 22 01:00
MinceR	or to draw accents over on the screen in a second pass	Oct 22 01:01
XRevan86	Šestovič, Schestowitz	Oct 22 01:01
XRevan86	Шестович	Oct 22 01:02
XRevan86	(Or is it Ŝestovič (Щестович)…)	Oct 22 01:03
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DaemonFC	It seems kind of hard to make sure ipv6 stays off.	Oct 22 01:05
DaemonFC	Maybe I'll just blacklist it at the GRUB command line.	Oct 22 01:05
XRevan86	MinceR: "Schestowitz" appears to be of Slavic origin, but I'm wondering what it might mean :)	Oct 22 01:08
XRevan86	In Russian, "шест" is a pole, and the word is old so it could be that.	Oct 22 01:09
XRevan86	and with transliteration to English: Shestovich	Oct 22 01:12
XRevan86	https://www.startpage.com/do/search?query=%C5%A0estovi%C4%8D&cat=web oh hey, there's actually a person who uses that spelling on the web %)	Oct 22 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Šestovič - Startpage Web Search		Oct 22 01:18
XRevan86	apparently from Croatia	Oct 22 01:18
XRevan86	So I probably nailed it :)	Oct 22 01:18
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XRevan86	Croatian uses the same spin of the Latin alphabet, so I assume he knows how to spell his surname.	Oct 22 01:20
XRevan86	although weird that there's only one guy…	Oct 22 01:21
XRevan86	ah, no, three :)	Oct 22 01:22
XRevan86	Anže Šestovič, Drol Šestovič, L. Šestovič	Oct 22 01:23
MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aOBpVp3	Oct 22 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That's all the sex I am getting for today. - 9GAG		Oct 22 01:50
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DaemonFC	XRevan86, Private Internet Access actually pulled out of Russia a while back.	Oct 22 04:11
DaemonFC	After a government raid on their servers there.	Oct 22 04:11
DaemonFC	They say the Russian government didn't get anything because there's no logs, but they say they will pull their servers fro any country where a government raids them.	Oct 22 04:12
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XRevan86	DaemonFC: Sounds plausible	Oct 22 04:28
XRevan86	There's a law effective starting at November 1st in Russia that allows RKN to block VPNs that allow access to banned websites.	Oct 22 04:30
DaemonFC	XRevan86, It's a little harder for my government to do that thanks to the constitution, but it hasn't stopped them from trying.	Oct 22 05:08
DaemonFC	They want to destroy whatever they can't control.	Oct 22 05:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/921965897325178881	Oct 22 06:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/I0UdYXJsw3 (techrights.org)	Oct 22 06:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922028298024210433	Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	#GNOME 3.27.1 RELEASED https://t.co/50htnxZdqY	Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #gtk	Oct 22 10:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME 3.27.1 RELEASED \| Tux Machines		Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922028638035501056	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 10:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME 3.27.1 RELEASED https://t.co/50htnxZdqY #gnu #linux #gtk...'		Oct 22 10:18
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better Support...'		Oct 22 10:23
*TweetTuxMachines @Rick4312 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better Support...'		Oct 22 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Rick4312/status/922032277584048129	Oct 22 10:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@Rick4312 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #gtk	Oct 22 10:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922036369601507328	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of the Open	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Source Community	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3p9gvFKhau (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 10:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Success! Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of the Open Source Community \| Tux Machines		Oct 22 10:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Pros_P33 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of...'		Oct 22 10:48
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of...'		Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922039802098278401	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	#WineStaging 2.19	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ohW2TofqqZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #freesw	Oct 22 11:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#WineStaging 2.19 https://t.co/ohW2TofqqZ #wine #gnu #linux #freesw...'		Oct 22 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922040279980564480	Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	Games: The Coma: Recut, #MushroomWars 2 and #TeamFortress	Oct 22 11:03
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M6Fmd7OdPB (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu	Oct 22 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: The Coma: Recut, Mushroom Wars 2 and Team Fortress 2 \| Tux Machines		Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Oct 22 11:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: The Coma: Recut, #MushroomWars 2 and #TeamFortress...'		Oct 22 11:08
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cubexyz	doh... why don't I run rtorrent in the framebuffer	Oct 22 13:19
cubexyz	then if I kill X the program continues to run	Oct 22 13:20
cubexyz	I also seem to lose a big chunk of klipper history	Oct 22 13:22
schestowitz	klipper takes up a lot of RAM sometimes	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	I stopped using it	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	it's good every now and then	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	but usually not worth the toll on the system	Oct 22 13:23
cubexyz	that must be a recent development...	Oct 22 13:24
cubexyz	I'm running klipper 24/7 on my 512 meg box, but on KDE 3.5.10	Oct 22 13:24
cubexyz	htop says 2.3% MEM for klipper	Oct 22 13:25
cubexyz	I have to kill firefox several times per day though	Oct 22 13:26
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XRevan86	DaemonFC:	Oct 22 13:37
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XRevan86	Russian Federation also has a Constitution that forbids all that stuff. But the constitutional court manages to interpret the Constitution in a way that allows the government to do whatever.	Oct 22 13:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: Yes laws are only as good as the enforcement.	Oct 22 13:48
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-10-weirdest-driving-laws-in-the-world/ I do like number 8. Now really with highway speeds putting that one off would be insanity.	Oct 22 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.carthrottle.com \| The 10 Weirdest Driving Laws In The World		Oct 22 13:55
XRevan86	oiaohm: Heh. Sounds like woman drivers can pull off a socialist rally without having to sanction anything in New Orleans :-).	Oct 22 14:03
XRevan86	Dirty cars are illegal? I guess that's why clean cars attract my attention as something out of the ordinary.	Oct 22 14:04
oiaohm	XRevan86: there is a long long list of never enforced laws.	Oct 22 14:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://askanthony.weebly.com/australian-witchcraft-laws.html you find very stupid ones. Like Australian Constitution of 1901 made it against the law to make laws against religions and Queensland in the same country make a law in 1931 against a particular religion that is basically not enforceable. Only took almost 70 years to be re-plead and fixed.	Oct 22 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-askanthony.weebly.com \| Australian Witchcraft Laws - askanthony		Oct 22 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/922085484079312899	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 14:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922095159281639424	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	#Purism #Librem 5 Linux Smartphone Campaign Set To End At	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	Around $2 Million	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v3burwJpwZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922095690225942528	Oct 22 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: Mir running on #Fedora and #Ubuntu 17.10 Guidance	Oct 22 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zd4aH5yxIp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922096252627628033	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Kernel and #Graphics: #ZenStates, #AMDGPU, #RADV,	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Vulkan, #NVIDIA	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RFYS0tBRNv (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Oct 22 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922097162703564800	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922097748324777985	Oct 22 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	#Security Leftovers	Oct 22 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LchNRPpNKu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922098785605517312	Oct 22 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 22 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0qGQP6gA3U (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw	Oct 22 15:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922103917260963840	Oct 22 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Oct 22 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/0qGQP6gA3U (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw	Oct 22 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922106881388183552	Oct 22 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LchNRPpNKu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922108937796759554	Oct 22 15:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 15:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922110787942076416	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Kernel and #Graphics: #ZenStates, #AMDGPU, #RADV,	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #Vulkan, #NVIDIA	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RFYS0tBRNv (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Oct 22 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922112967637917696	Oct 22 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu: Mir running on #Fedora and #Ubuntu 17.10 Guidance	Oct 22 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/zd4aH5yxIp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922114012204228608	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Purism #Librem 5 Linux Smartphone Campaign Set To End At	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Around $2 Million	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v3burwJpwZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/922122932670918656	Oct 22 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 22 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922142358560493568	Oct 22 18:52
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Oct 22 18:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/E9OsLEqiCg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 18:52
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DaemonFC	Hmm, GNOME Web isn't the most efficient browser.	Oct 22 18:58
DaemonFC	Uses sa lot of CPU time on certain sites.	Oct 22 18:59
MinceR	no browser that support javascript is going to be efficient	Oct 22 19:00
DaemonFC	MinceR, And that was before this bittorrent miner malware.	Oct 22 19:04
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/gGgw0	Oct 22 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some good family fun - Album on Imgur		Oct 22 19:50
cubexyz	well, someone added two A Records to my domain name	Oct 22 19:55
cubexyz	very odd	Oct 22 19:55
cubexyz	the numeric ip is from Burlington MA USA	Oct 22 19:59
cubexyz	also my tk domain name went bye-bye	Oct 22 20:00
cubexyz	schestowitz warned me not to use the tk domain	Oct 22 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922162291264643077	Oct 22 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Oct 22 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/E9OsLEqiCg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 20:03
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cubexyz	I told my registrar about it	Oct 22 20:04
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/xSLCt	Oct 22 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/922183519291564038	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@fcassia Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 20:31
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lTYPvArbGo	Oct 22 20:34
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/J7Q3L	Oct 22 20:41
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schestowitz	MinceR: is it really her?	Oct 22 20:44
MinceR	i guess	Oct 22 20:44
schestowitz	looks like it	Oct 22 20:44
schestowitz	became famous for creepiness	Oct 22 20:44
MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzk-l8Gm0MY	Oct 22 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Horror Musical Instrument - The Apprehension Engine - YouTube		Oct 22 20:46
DaemonFC	Those TK domains are "free". What's the catch?	Oct 22 20:47
cubexyz	they disappear	Oct 22 20:47
cubexyz	if you go to my tk domain it just shows ads	Oct 22 20:48
DaemonFC	http://cubeman.org/	Oct 22 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubeman.org \| Mark Longridge's Domain of the Cube, Specialist in Cubes, Video Games and Math		Oct 22 20:53
DaemonFC	Holy 1997 Geocities, Batman!	Oct 22 20:53
DaemonFC	I'm making a bunch of mp3s.	Oct 22 20:57
DaemonFC	FLAC cuts the file size to about half of CDDA, but the files are still enormous. 25-30 MB each. That makes it interesting for archival quality, but not so much if you want to store a lot of them or take them with you.	Oct 22 20:58
DaemonFC	I noticed that there's a lot of FOSS codecs for Apple Lossless, but I can't see any reason to use it. I compared them at one point and found that Apple Lossless files were usually between 5-8% larger than FLAC.	Oct 22 20:59
DaemonFC	I see a lot of people recommending ALAC simply because it's "what Apple uses".	Oct 22 21:05
DaemonFC	Over time, the inefficiency of ALAC adds up and starts costing you some real storage space.	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	>Cubes, Video Games	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	so, Sauerbraten and Tesseract? :>	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	maybe some Inexor and AssaultCube too? :>	Oct 22 21:06
DaemonFC	I don't think Fedora packages Sauerbraten.	Oct 22 21:07
DaemonFC	The game engine is FOSS but the game content is only redistributable.	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	there's no need for the distro maintainers to package games	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	they tend to be portable	Oct 22 21:07
DaemonFC	Yeah, unpacking the archive that you get from upstream works.	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	even if my libc was too old for xonotic on my previous system, building from git was easy	Oct 22 21:08
DaemonFC	Fedora's glibc is never old.	Oct 22 21:08
DaemonFC	Each release tends to ship with the latest version.	Oct 22 21:09
DaemonFC	Unless there's a serious problem with it.	Oct 22 21:09
MinceR	my version was not the latest	Oct 22 21:09
MinceR	it was the final stable release debian will ever make	Oct 22 21:09
cubexyz	I have assaultcube but hardly ever play it	Oct 22 21:10
DaemonFC	Debian is too much of a hassle.	Oct 22 21:10
cubexyz	I play a lot of HOMM3	Oct 22 21:11
DaemonFC	Things that just work on other distributions don't on Debian and you're like "Why do I have to stop and fix this?".	Oct 22 21:11
DaemonFC	Linus Torvalds mentioned that he tried to install Debian once and someone asked if he was successful, and he said no.	Oct 22 21:11
MinceR	all of systemd/Linux is too much of a hassle	Oct 22 21:11
cubexyz	legend of grimrock looks interesting	Oct 22 21:13
DaemonFC	MinceR, Basically, the situation we have for unauthorized copying on Bittorrent in the US right now is a mess.	Oct 22 21:14
cubexyz	not big on first person shooters though	Oct 22 21:14
gde33	I think the technical term is "Corrupted"	Oct 22 21:14
DaemonFC	There are law firms that go to copyright holders, mostly porn and bands that haven't produced an album in years.	Oct 22 21:14
DaemonFC	They offer to "monitor" the files on bittorrent and then send out "Pay up or else" letters to people who download them.	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	Then they offer half of whatever they collect to the copyright holder.	Oct 22 21:15
cubexyz	great scam	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	Comcast and some other ISPs strip out the demand and just say "We got a complaint. Too many of these and you may lose your Comcast internet account.".	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	cubexyz, The copyright troll doesn't necessarily know who you are.	Oct 22 21:16
gde33	the vpn is not helping?	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	Most ISPs now have a policy of not telling them unless a court orders the ISP to unmask you.	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	gde33, Oh, it is. I haven't gotten any letters since I started using it.	Oct 22 21:16
cubexyz	I've never got a letter like that, but I'm in Canada	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	There was one famous incident called Prenda Law.	Oct 22 21:17
DaemonFC	They were based in Chicago.	Oct 22 21:17
gde33	I was trying to look you up on https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/ but then hit the vpn :P	Oct 22 21:17
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DaemonFC	A federal judge called them a "porno supertroll" and said they operate like a "conspiracy" and a "racket".	Oct 22 21:17
DaemonFC	What would happen is they'd upload porn to Bittorrent and then offer to "settle" for $4,000 to anyone who downloaded it.	Oct 22 21:17
gde33	its my favorite torrent website	Oct 22 21:18
DaemonFC	So, I was reading this article. Some guy who had downloaded a ton of porn and ignored all the letters from Prenda had the guy who was running Prenda show up to his front door.	Oct 22 21:18
DaemonFC	In the middle of the night.	Oct 22 21:18
cubexyz	I bet that site is bogus	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	He handed him a business card and a letter saying that Prenda had caught him downloading a bunch of porn and the card said "Call this guy, he can help!".	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	So, like an idiot, the guy calls the number on the card.	Oct 22 21:19
cubexyz	how could they monitor everybody...	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Starts talking to the guy on the card, who turned out to be working at Prenda.	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Before he caught on, he told them that he was a nursing student and that he downloaded the porn (admission of guilt!) and he didn't know what to do and a bunch of other stuff.	Oct 22 21:20
gde33	lol	Oct 22 21:20
DaemonFC	Porno trolls uploading their own material and then sending legal letters to people who download it is not rare.	Oct 22 21:21
DaemonFC	X-Art does it.	Oct 22 21:21
gde33	And I was hoping for the story to evolve something like, then he pushed the guy over his mercedes, pulled down his pants and said "I'm not gay but I'm taking one for the team!"	Oct 22 21:21
DaemonFC	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/prenda-law-the-porn-copyright-trolls	Oct 22 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prenda Law, the Porn Copyright Trolls - Bloomberg		Oct 22 21:22
gde33	then in court he said, but he rang at my door in the middle of the night to talk about porn? what else was I to do?	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	What I can't figure out is....there's porn all over the internet.	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	Why not just right-click "Save As" and not use Bittorrent at all?	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	Are these people fucking stupid?	Oct 22 21:22
gde33	a little known fact, (not sure if it is still the case) if you log into piratebay you get access to the adult content, it pretty much has everything on it from what I hear.	Oct 22 21:23
DaemonFC	Well, the guy who actually called a number on the back of a card from a shadowy figure that appeared in the middle of the night was...	Oct 22 21:23
DaemonFC	gde33, They changed that.	Oct 22 21:24
gde33	ah ok	Oct 22 21:24
DaemonFC	You can see all the porn on TPB without being logged in.	Oct 22 21:24
gde33	I never see it	Oct 22 21:24
DaemonFC	It shows up for me whenever I just view recent uploads.	Oct 22 21:25
gde33	downloading porn over torrents is a terrible idea as the porn industry has everything from high end lawyers, tricksters, hackers to goons	Oct 22 21:25
DaemonFC	I wouldn't recommend downloading it even through a VPN or anything because 90%+ of the file sharing lawsuits are porn-related because they're not exactly worried about maintaining a good image.	Oct 22 21:26
MinceR	cubexyz: the ones i listed use some version of the Cube engine though :>	Oct 22 21:26
DaemonFC	At least if you get a letter from HBO, it's basically "We know what you did. Stop it!". Not "Give us $5,000 or else!".	Oct 22 21:26
gde33	those are probably the lucky ones, you dont want to mess with human trafficers	Oct 22 21:26
MinceR	cubexyz: though the best fps i'm aware of, Xonotic, uses the DarkPlaces engine instead :>	Oct 22 21:27
gde33	to take a clue from 1984, if they make downloading propaganda movies illegal people will want them	Oct 22 21:29
gde33	for credit card fraud the government will obviously show up at your door much faster	Oct 22 21:30
gde33	but why have different systems for different types of illegal behavior online?	Oct 22 21:31
gde33	if they can have you watching some stupid entertainment - they have you	Oct 22 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/922183699940216832	Oct 22 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Purism disables Intel's flawed Management Engine on	Oct 22 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	@fcassia Linux-powered laptops https://t.co/0qYObJspNL	Oct 22 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922201637321691137	Oct 22 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ	Oct 22 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux #android	Oct 22 21:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ #google #linux #android'		Oct 22 21:46
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ #google #linux #android'		Oct 22 21:46
DaemonFC	https://www.techworm.net/2017/08/biglybt-new-open-source-torrent-client-launched-former-vuze-developers.html	Oct 22 22:00
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DaemonFC	Nice. I saw a BiglyBT useragent in my peers list and I was "WTF is that!?".	Oct 22 22:00
DaemonFC	It's a fork of Azureus/Vuze with just the GPL'd bits.	Oct 22 22:01
DaemonFC	“Our main goals for BiglyBT is to keep it ad-free and open source, and to continue to develop it into an even better torrent client. We also hope that a community will form again around the product.”	Oct 22 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/922202598987501570	Oct 22 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ	Oct 22 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	@Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux #android	Oct 22 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922206448628785154	Oct 22 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	A look at Ubuntu 17.10 Artful	Oct 22 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Aardvarkhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/105865	Oct 22 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(https://t.co/FwDC2wSpzT) (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 22:04
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: Big league!	Oct 22 22:08
DaemonFC	schestowitz, It's available for "Linux/UNIX" as long as you have GTK+ and java-headless.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	Can't think of a reason to use it though.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	QBittorrent does a fine job.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	The Gnutella network is basically dead at this point. I can't seem to make GTK-Gnutella download anything and the user interface is terrible.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	Frostwire dropped support for Gnutella a long time ago and became just another Bittorrent client.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	Sad to see the lack of diversity.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	More networks = Harder for anti-p2p entities to operate.	Oct 22 22:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922206974065938432	Oct 22 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by A look at Ubuntu 17.10 Artful	Oct 22 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Aardvarkhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/105865	Oct 22 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	(https://t.co/FwDC2wSpzT) (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 22:26
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foSJstDFDfg	Oct 22 23:05
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, Thoughts on the free Hotspot Shield Firefox extension?	Oct 22 23:06
DaemonFC	I see you can use it to browse through a VPN through the system VPN.	Oct 22 23:06
DaemonFC	Oh, I see where they get you.	Oct 22 23:11
DaemonFC	They inject ads into the browser and paywall Netflix and Hulu.	Oct 22 23:12
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 22 23:13
DaemonFC	Someone got a picture of Trump's son getting lemonade out of the free water cup at in-and-out burger.	Oct 22 23:13
DaemonFC	Fucking rich people....	Oct 22 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922212519619555330	Oct 22 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ	Oct 22 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux #android	Oct 22 23:44
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MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aKDWAeN	Oct 23 00:17
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DaemonFC	"Looks like some legally safe knockoff of an 80s horror movie." :)	Oct 23 00:32
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWqTKQ4a0Q	Oct 23 00:33
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/kpXQC	Oct 23 01:07
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oiaohm	https://torrentfreak.com/tech-giants-warn-kodi-scapegoating-171022/ Interesting.	Oct 23 01:17
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qDBAZcWubE	Oct 23 01:38
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MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aMAmZWR	Oct 23 02:06
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XRevan86	MinceR: Everything hangs down there	Oct 23 02:16
MinceR	that's what she said.	Oct 23 02:20
XRevan86	I did not see that coming.	Oct 23 02:20
MinceR	that's also what she said.	Oct 23 02:20
XRevan86	That I saw coming :).	Oct 23 02:20
MinceR	:)	Oct 23 02:22
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DaemonFC	https://www.theonion.com/red-lobster-criticized-for-decimating-biscuit-populatio-1819716497	Oct 23 03:21
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DaemonFC	https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-2e2dc86bc6	Oct 23 05:34
DaemonFC	LAME 3.100 built for Fedora 27.	Oct 23 05:35
DaemonFC	http://cve.circl.lu/cve/CVE-2017-9410 http://cve.circl.lu/cve/CVE-2017-9411 http://cve.circl.lu/cve/CVE-2017-9412	Oct 23 05:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922350749614592001	Oct 23 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	ArchLabs Linux Mínimo https://t.co/CCbnLxla4n	Oct 23 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 07:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922352142517710848	Oct 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	#RedHat: Public Sector, #InFluxData, New Chairman of the	Oct 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	Board	Oct 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pwoeTy8HgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 07:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922355588981501952	Oct 23 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	Librem 5 Linux Phone to Include Nextcloud's End-to-End	Oct 23 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypted File Storage https://t.co/Pc45ecCQmS	Oct 23 07:56
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TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK	Oct 23 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	Bug, GCC 6 Now Removed	Oct 23 07:57
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK	Oct 23 08:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Bug, GCC 6 Now Removed	Oct 23 08:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Announcements: CIP, OpenMessaging, CDLA	Oct 23 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OJWpPNFZNR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 08:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Android, Android on Desktops (Android-x86), Samsung	Oct 23 08:33
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/31tz9zATVo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 08:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922371672933625856	Oct 23 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	Party Like It's 1987 - PC-MOS/386 Goes Open Source	Oct 23 09:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922372109124489216	Oct 23 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	DockerCon EU, Containers and Chromebooks	Oct 23 09:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Software and howtos	Oct 23 09:04
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TweetTuxMachines	Lubuntu Next 17.10 Rolls Out to Early Adopters with LXQt	Oct 23 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	0.11.1 Desktop https://t.co/ofnx8UFguq	Oct 23 10:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922388894502531072	Oct 23 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	System76 Unveils First Release of Pop!_OS Linux Distro,	Oct 23 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ubuntu 17.10 https://t.co/WhjzsZutek	Oct 23 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922389196819529729	Oct 23 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	5 ways to invigorate education with Raspberry Pi	Oct 23 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f50hwuk4X8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922390345337458689	Oct 23 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	How to manage casual contributors to open source projects	Oct 23 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tjzGdhyEaS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 10:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922390591660609536	Oct 23 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME 3.28 Linux Desktop Environment Development Kicks	Oct 23 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	Off with First Snapshot https://t.co/j2mG7KxQvt	Oct 23 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 10:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'System76 Unveils First Release of Pop!_OS Linux Distro,...'		Oct 23 10:22
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 ways to invigorate education with Raspberry Pi...'		Oct 23 10:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Off with First Snapshot https://t.co/j2mG7KxQvt	Oct 23 11:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922403107027464192	Oct 23 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	Events: https://t.co/6uYSIk7bnl (error) Summit 2017,	Oct 23 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	GStreamer Conference 2017, FSFE Assembly During 34C3	Oct 23 11:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922403782159454208	Oct 23 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	Links 23/10/2017: Wine Staging 2.19, GNOME 3.27.1	Oct 23 11:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922404096052690947	Oct 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 23 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/09MtZJmiUn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922404450773422081	Oct 23 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/6fvCmIROkE	Oct 23 11:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events: https://t.co/6uYSIk7bnl Summit 2017, GStreamer Conference 2017, FSFE...'		Oct 23 11:18
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers https://t.co/ETqeUwYplP...'		Oct 23 11:22
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/09MtZJmiUn...'		Oct 23 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922408371222925312	Oct 23 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 23/10/2017: Wine Staging 2.19, GNOME 3.27.1	Oct 23 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/bh6OAVHPlS (techrights.org)	Oct 23 12:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/922437496557903872	Oct 23 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 23 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 23 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 23 13:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Debian: pk4, Freexian and More https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH #debian...'		Oct 23 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'System76 Unveils First Release of Pop!_OS Linux Distro,...'		Oct 23 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Lubuntu Next 17.10 Rolls Out to Early Adopters...'		Oct 23 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK...'		Oct 23 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'GNOME 3.28 Linux Desktop Environment Development Kicks Off...'		Oct 23 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Librem 5 Linux Phone to Include Nextcloud's End-to-End...'		Oct 23 13:24
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Librem 5 Linux Phone to Include Nextcloud's End-to-End...'		Oct 23 13:24
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK...'		Oct 23 13:24
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'GNOME 3.28 Linux Desktop Environment Development Kicks Off...'		Oct 23 13:24
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'System76 Unveils First Release of Pop!_OS Linux Distro,...'		Oct 23 13:24
MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/am2Aj6j	Oct 23 13:47
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cubexyz	small update on CBC:	Oct 23 15:00
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gde33	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg1nSvYgCYE	Oct 23 15:58
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DaemonFC	"It was kind of a trade. Cronus gave us his ship and.....he got what was coming to him."	Oct 23 19:01
DaemonFC	^ MinceR	Oct 23 19:01
MinceR	:>	Oct 23 19:01
DaemonFC	Watching through SG-1 again.	Oct 23 19:01
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/MGFj4Ml.jpg	Oct 23 19:05
DaemonFC	It's been nasty and raining the last two days.	Oct 23 19:08
DaemonFC	I went looking for something to eat yesterday and decided to use a Subway coupon. Still kind of wishing I hadn't.	Oct 23 19:08
DaemonFC	They had this "Autumn Carved Turkey" sub that sounded good until I actually ate it.	Oct 23 19:09
DaemonFC	I don't know what happened. I think it might be "Food Babe" continuing to fuck up food that she doesn't eat.	Oct 23 19:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, She gets people to call in and troll the 800 numbers for these companies demanding that an ingredient they can't pronounce be removed, because not being able to pronounce something means it causes cancer.	Oct 23 19:10
DaemonFC	Then when the company panics and makes their food worse or more expensive or both, there's another ingredient that the idiots can't pronounce.	Oct 23 19:11
DaemonFC	This is what happens when you have the most "educated" generation ever, but they all took Feminist Studies, so....	Oct 23 19:12
MinceR	maybe they should give ingredients new names	Oct 23 19:13
DaemonFC	MinceR, Yeah, like instead of Azodicarbonamide, they could call it "Happy Happy No Cancer Funtime!".	Oct 23 19:14
DaemonFC	It's only really condescension if the person you're talking down to is capable of communicating on a higher level, right?	Oct 23 19:15
MinceR	or "goo goo ga ga"	Oct 23 19:15
DaemonFC	MinceR, Every relevant food health agency has it as an approved ingredient. It's not just the US FDA.	Oct 23 19:16
DaemonFC	It has an E number, for example.	Oct 23 19:16
DaemonFC	That doesn't mean anything to them though. Instead of being an FDA conspiracy it's now a worldwide conspiracy to sterilize your testicles.	Oct 23 19:17
MinceR	they believe that if it has an E number, it's evil	Oct 23 19:17
MinceR	maybe they should be saved from the evil E948.	Oct 23 19:18
DaemonFC	MinceR, They actually say the government is putting stuff in our food to cause infertility. If that's the case, then why are all the poor people who live off ramen noodles having like 5 kids?	Oct 23 19:18
DaemonFC	If there was a targeted infertility campaign, shouldn't it be going after people who either live off the government or don't pay enough in taxes?	Oct 23 19:18
MinceR	yeah	Oct 23 19:18
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @amnesty Turkey is a lost cause. Almost.'		Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	MinceR, So, this tax reform bill was going to raise taxes o people with a lot of kids and then they screamed so the child tax credit is being EXPANDED.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	Like, that's just what we need.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	The child tax credit is sort of like the Nazi marriage loan.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	The tax system doles out unearned money to people who get married and have kids from people who didn't.	Oct 23 19:21
DaemonFC	Only, it's giving them back thousands per year more than they paid.	Oct 23 19:22
DaemonFC	Turning the IRS into the biggest welfare program in the nation.	Oct 23 19:22
DaemonFC	And nobody will admit it because the majority are on the dole and telling the rest to work harder or join them on the dole.	Oct 23 19:23
DaemonFC	MinceR, Before the 1980s, people were claiming like 4-5+ kids that they didn't even have.	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	Then the tax reform bill started requiring social security numbers of every dependent claimed.	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	The next year, 7 million children vanished. :)	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	MinceR, It also made sure that parents got their kids Social Security numbers.	Oct 23 19:25
DaemonFC	There's no law saying that you have to have an SSN, but if your parents get one for you, you can never get rid of it.	Oct 23 19:26
DaemonFC	So your parents sign you up for one so they can get the child tax credit for the next 18 years and then you have one for life.	Oct 23 19:26
DaemonFC	I suppose it doesn't really matter much.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	Without one, you can't do very much.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	The original setup said the number was just to track your wages and social program taxes so they would know how much to pay you later when you claimed benefits.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	The card said "Not for identification.".	Oct 23 19:28
DaemonFC	Now you can't get a Comcast internet account if you don't have one.	Oct 23 19:28
DaemonFC	MinceR, The numbering scheme was designed about 80 years ago, so obviously there's no security in a social security number.	Oct 23 19:29
DaemonFC	You can apply to get one changed, but it's a hassle and it's almost always denied unless you can prove that you're constantly a victim of fraud.	Oct 23 19:29
DaemonFC	The government should redo the system like those EMV credit cards, where you get one time codes for each credit check or whatever and then it never works again.	Oct 23 19:30
DaemonFC	But it's the government, so yeah.	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	It's taken them since 1965 to finally realize that putting your Social Security Number on your Medicare card is a bad idea.	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	B-)	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	And that's only because the Medicare program is in deep shit thanks to fake billing.	Oct 23 19:32
DaemonFC	Like, a doctor will round up a bunch of Medicare numbers and then submit bills to the government claiming he's treating them all for AIDS or cancer or something	Oct 23 19:33
DaemonFC	Then by the time the government notices, he's gotten like $80 million out of them.	Oct 23 19:33
DaemonFC	Stock market is down. Seems to be because GE is falling apart.	Oct 23 19:35
DaemonFC	MinceR, Think they're going to get another bailout?	Oct 23 19:35
MinceR	what's up with GE?	Oct 23 19:36
DaemonFC	Earnings are way down.	Oct 23 19:37
DaemonFC	Investors are worried they'll cut their dividend.	Oct 23 19:37
DaemonFC	MinceR, Their financial operation is way bigger than their manufacturing operation.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	They're described as a bank that makes refrigerators now.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	They're sitting on top of a bunch of shitty high interest loans.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	Like store credit cards and "Care Credit", where people finance medical expenses at like 26% interest. :P	Oct 23 19:40
MinceR	strange, they got rid of Budapest Bank 2 years ago	Oct 23 19:42
DaemonFC	MinceR, They mostly target Care Credit at things that insurance doesn't cover. Like dental and lasik eye surgery.	Oct 23 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922533460086018048	Oct 23 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat News	Oct 23 19:44
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TweetTuxMachines	GIMP, More Awesome Than I Remember	Oct 23 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DP1EXezU88 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:45
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DaemonFC	MinceR, The messed up thing about Care Credit are the deferred interest offers.	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	Like "No interest if you pay in 24 months.".	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	But if you owe anything after that, it goes back and calculates interest on your daily balance and adds it to your total amount owed.	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	They know that people will use it and think "Oh, two years is a long time." and then it goes into the pile of bills and they're just making the minimum payments.	Oct 23 19:46
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DaemonFC	http://creditcardforum.com/blog/ge-care-credit-card/	Oct 23 19:49
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DaemonFC	"My roommate had some cavities he needed to get filled and according to him, the dentist purportedly told him he had to do a credit check. In actuality it was far more than a credit check… a Care Credit Card arrived in the mail a few days later! My roommate was shocked, as he wasn’t aware he was applying for a credit card."	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922534331016536069	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	What Will the Ubuntu 18.04 Name ‘B’?	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ycfMFZ3DQD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:50
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DaemonFC	I don't suppose he bothered to ask why the dentist had to do a credit check if he was paying at the office before he left.....	Oct 23 19:51
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MinceR	Who Cares What It Will 'B'?	Oct 23 19:51
MinceR	just another Lendows release	Oct 23 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922535653635710976	Oct 23 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Gabriel	Oct 23 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Rojo Argote https://t.co/sIS8LWYZCA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922536128615538688	Oct 23 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/Md3sBysuLz	Oct 23 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:53
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Dentists don't like to tell you what the price is, but they will if you insist.	Oct 23 19:54
DaemonFC	Also, you can call around and ask if you get a discount for not having insurance. Most do that to attract customers that can go anywhere because they don't have a "network" or an insurance plan that must pay.	Oct 23 19:55
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DaemonFC	It's pretty typical to get a 10-15% discount off the list price for a service by paying in cash. And they usually won't give that to you if you use Care Credit.	Oct 23 19:55
MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aY4PGmq	Oct 23 19:56
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DaemonFC	MinceR, But there are dental insurance companies that sell "dental discounts" that are not insurance.	Oct 23 19:57
DaemonFC	What it is, is you hand the dentist the card and you get his network discount rate.	Oct 23 19:58
DaemonFC	So you're paying to get a discount from an insurance company that you could have gotten without the discount card if you had asked and gotten the cash discount. :D	Oct 23 19:58
DaemonFC	Insurance is really confusing and it's set up like a casino.	Oct 23 19:59
DaemonFC	The house always wins.	Oct 23 19:59
DaemonFC	MinceR, So I was reading about Google's Go! programming language.	Oct 23 20:01
DaemonFC	Turned out there was already a "Go" programming language. The guy who wrote it filed a bug with Google asking them to change their name and Google just said "Gee, that's unfortunate.".	Oct 23 20:02
MinceR	:>	Oct 23 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922536989878030343	Oct 23 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	PC-MOS/386 is the latest obsolete operating system to	Oct 23 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	open source on Github https://t.co/fvFdJFY3WP	Oct 23 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922538829545988096	Oct 23 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.13.9 https://t.co/1qalxnnAHB	Oct 23 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:04
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/bVS11nN.jpg	Oct 23 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922539216025866241	Oct 23 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.14-rc6 https://t.co/LiC2E0gm4v	Oct 23 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:15
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22713432_418647738537438_3315613225899792523_o.jpg?oh=0dfe27ab350ef8bbaa88b244a12aa0e9&oe=5A803999	Oct 23 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542024880021505	Oct 23 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation wants to do to data what it's done for	Oct 23 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	software https://t.co/pjp50aSjIN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:17
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MinceR	:>	Oct 23 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542459065917445	Oct 23 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	Best Alternatives To Photoshop On Linux	Oct 23 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GEZP6BrR0y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:19
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MinceR	http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/kimop-4.jpg	Oct 23 20:21
DaemonFC	MinceR, The Linux transcoding tools are not great. I ended up installing dbpoweramp into Wine.	Oct 23 20:23
DaemonFC	Transcodes using all your CPU cores and then copies the tag over.	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	i hardly ever transcode	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	I wonder why there isn't a program that can do that.	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	Well, the MP3s that you can download are 320k CBR.	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	Wastes a lot of space, really.	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	i prefer FLAC	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	but i have encoded some mp3s for my car 'radio'	Oct 23 20:25
DaemonFC	VBR is the way to go. If you really want 320k CBR, use VBR -V0 instead.	Oct 23 20:25
DaemonFC	At least that way the encoder can make the decision to use smaller frames if it doesn't need the largest size possible at the moment.	Oct 23 20:25
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/0gUy2hZ.gif	Oct 23 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542870757863427	Oct 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	5 Most Beautiful Linux Desktop Environments	Oct 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kUbPAHSOaD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:27
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DaemonFC	MinceR, There's also the Nero AAC codec if you don't mind that it's proprietary.	Oct 23 20:27
DaemonFC	It's self-contained and a native Linux program.	Oct 23 20:27
MinceR	i have yet to see the need for AAC	Oct 23 20:28
DaemonFC	So it shouldn't ever just "stop working".	Oct 23 20:28
MinceR	but it will, once one of its dependencies becomes binary incompatible or unavailable :>	Oct 23 20:30
DaemonFC	MinceR, It's just one file.	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922546164561522689	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Singularity: Escalation, ASTROKILL and More	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6nhRC4Jgkn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:35
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MinceR	DaemonFC: all statically linked?	Oct 23 20:35
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/vJx7B	Oct 23 20:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/meowzzzzzzzzz/status/922546949139632128	Oct 23 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games: Singularity: Escalation, ASTROKILL and More	Oct 23 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@meowzzzzzzzzz https://t.co/6nhRC4Jgkn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 21:01
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Yeah. Nero doesn't maintain it anymore, but it still works.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	I think the best choice for FOSS AAC encoder is the one that ships with ffmpeg.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	But the quality is still not great.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	Nero and Apple are widely regarded to have the best encoders in terms of quality of the resulting file.	Oct 23 21:11
DaemonFC	Obviously, Apple's is much harder to use on Linux because you need to install iTunes into Wine. But the good news is you don't need to use iTunes after you install it.	Oct 23 21:11
DaemonFC	foobar2000's "Free encoders pack" has a stub that will use the AAC encoder from iTunes if it's installed.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	Obviously, this is a gross hack, especially on Linux as it requires two Windows programs installed in Wine.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	So the better of the two options is Nero's native Linux encoder.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, The good news is that FAAD2 (the decoder) is under the GPL. So once you have the files you don't need any proprietary software to play them back.	Oct 23 21:13
DaemonFC	The bad news is that FAAD2 is patent-encumbered, so you'll need to get it from.....somewhere, like RPM Fusion.	Oct 23 21:13
DaemonFC	MP3 is in the public domain now, so nobody can sue over usage of the format, or providing a user with a binary mp3 implementation.	Oct 23 21:16
DaemonFC	That solves the big problem of Ogg Vorbis. That you had to go out of your way to find something that actually played it.	Oct 23 21:16
DaemonFC	MinceR, For a while, when you tried playing an MP3 in Fedora, it opened a window that explained that MP3 was patent-encumbered and suggested installing Fluendo-MP3.	Oct 23 21:21
oiaohm	DaemonFC: 5.1 channel Mp3 is still patented but its not like many people have those files.	Oct 23 21:21
DaemonFC	The source code for that was under the MIT license, but the binary that Fluendo compiled was the only way you could get a patent license to use the decoder.	Oct 23 21:22
DaemonFC	oiaohm, You mean from the MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard?	Oct 23 21:22
DaemonFC	Yeah, almost all MP3s are 2 channel under MPEG 1 Layer III.	Oct 23 21:22
DaemonFC	The MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard is one of the options for making a DVD with surround sound.	Oct 23 21:23
DaemonFC	But most of them actually use AC3, iirc.	Oct 23 21:23
DaemonFC	Thaat's public domain now, I think.	Oct 23 21:24
DaemonFC	Yes, the last AC-3 patent expired on March 20, 2017.	Oct 23 21:25
DaemonFC	Nice.	Oct 23 21:25
oiaohm	MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard patents on that expire some time after 2020.	Oct 23 21:25
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video#Audio_data DVD standard no Mp3.	Oct 23 21:29
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DaemonFC	Well, can LAME encode those? Fedora is shipping LAME now.	Oct 23 21:29
DaemonFC	https://documentation.apple.com/en/dvdstudiopro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=5%26section=3%26tasks=true	Oct 23 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-documentation.apple.com \| DVD Studio Pro 4 User Manual		Oct 23 21:30
DaemonFC	Ahh, it's MP2 that is an option on DVD.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	You can make those with TooLAME.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	Mike Cheng started TooLAME out of fear that FhG would start imposing royalties to use MP3.	Oct 23 21:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically finding MPEG 2.5 Layer III stuff is a rare.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	So it was a backport of some of the psy model and other stuff to layer II.	Oct 23 21:32
DaemonFC	I think the psy model for TooLAME is based on gpsycho, not npsytune.	Oct 23 21:33
oiaohm	The other thing is MPEG 2.5 Layer III never made it into any formal standards. As most people by that port had got a lot more careful about patents and standars.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	LAME switched the default psy model for VBR in 3.98, I think.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	The old one is still available if you want to pass a switch to the encoder, but I don't know why you would.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	http://listening-test.coresv.net/results.htm	Oct 23 21:36
oiaohm	AAC is in different levels of expired from patents.	Oct 23 21:36
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DaemonFC	There's exactly why you don't want to use FAAC (other than not being FOSS, I mean)	Oct 23 21:36
schestowitz	l flashplugin-installer gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin	Oct 23 21:40
schestowitz	initramfs-tools-core libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libicu55 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libmysqlclient20 libpam-systemd	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	libsystemd0 libudev1 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 mysql-common systemd systemd-sysv udev wpasupplicant xserver-common xserver-xephyr	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	xserver-xorg-core	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	24 to upgrade, 0 to ne	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	so system-d infested here	Oct 23 21:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=AAC_encoders its kinda explained when you look at the features implemented in the ACC.	Oct 23 21:41
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: opps AAC	Oct 23 21:41
DaemonFC	I have no idea why Nero is still in business.	Oct 23 21:49
DaemonFC	Their flagship product is no longer truly relevant.	Oct 23 21:49
DaemonFC	Fewer people use optical discs for anything and if you want to copy Blu Ray movies onto a backup you'd need something like Slysoft AnyDVD HD anyway, not Nero.	Oct 23 21:50
DaemonFC	I personally let Windows users who have a copy of that do the job for me.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	If they're the ones using proprietary software, that's too bad for them.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	I don't need any to play the file that I get, so oh well.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	I mostly go for h265 files if I can these days.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	Back in the day, there was divx and then the scene started to switch to h264 with lots of complaints.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	Not from me though. divx quality was really crap. The ASP codecs never panned out like some had hoped they would.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Those ads for "PC tune up" software are back on late night TV.	Oct 23 21:54
DaemonFC	I called the 800 number for one of those several years ago and streamed myself trolling the guy on the phone.	Oct 23 21:54
DaemonFC	http://www.nero.com/enu/products/nero-recode/?vlang=us	Oct 23 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nero Recode 2018 - Rip and convert		Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	*Only for non-copy protected media.	Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	Haha.	Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	Right. Like why would there be a mass market for that?	Oct 23 21:57
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Worse than VMWare.	Oct 23 21:57
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Flash Plugin? Why?	Oct 23 21:58
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm re-ripping a bunch of MP3s that I got forever ago.	Oct 23 22:00
DaemonFC	Just never got around to them. Some of them are from Napster.	Oct 23 22:00
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Low-Complexity profile (AAC-LC / LC-AAC), Main profile (AAC Main) and Scalable Sampling Rate profile (AAC-SSR). Those were 1997 and should have come patent end of life.	Oct 23 22:00
DaemonFC	Liking the new rips much better obviously.	Oct 23 22:01
DaemonFC	oiaohm, LC is the only profile worth using.	Oct 23 22:01
DaemonFC	HE-AAC is shit.	Oct 23 22:01
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/Vc9Ia	Oct 23 22:01
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DaemonFC	Use HE-AAC if you want your list of playback options to go WAY down.	Oct 23 22:02
MinceR	High Explosive Advanced Audio Codec?	Oct 23 22:02
DaemonFC	I know Nero lets you encode to HE-AAC at any bitrate, but what's the point?	Oct 23 22:02
MinceR	i guess crApple uses that one	Oct 23 22:02
DaemonFC	The features that supposedly make it worth using only apply to low bitrates.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, if you try playing HE-AAC on a player that only supports LC then only the LC part will play.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	So the audio will sound much worse than if you had used LC to begin with.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	It never really caught on, MinceR.	Oct 23 22:04
DaemonFC	Opus exceeds everything that HE-AAC was trying to do.	Oct 23 22:04
DaemonFC	MinceR, "High Efficiency".	Oct 23 22:05
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_band_replication	Oct 23 22:05
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MinceR	ic	Oct 23 22:06
DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/audio/comments/2ds4vi/mp3_320_v0_and_flac/	Oct 23 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| MP3 320, v0, and FLAC? : audio		Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	"Anything below $400 sounds about the same."	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	Anyone who spends $400 for headphones is a giant douche.	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, They had a "mobile Best Buy" at the San Antonio airport.	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	It was a vending machine with Beats and Bose and all that stuff.	Oct 23 22:07
MinceR	lol	Oct 23 22:07
MinceR	No Highs, No Lows... Gotta Be Bose®	Oct 23 22:08
DaemonFC	I told John "I wonder what happens when you put $500 in it and your headphones get stuck in the machine."	Oct 23 22:08
MinceR	and beats is just crApple	Oct 23 22:08
DaemonFC	MinceR, I have no idea who buys "Earpods". $300 so it can sound worse than a $10 pair of folding headphones from Sony?	Oct 23 22:09
MinceR	crApple drones.	Oct 23 22:09
MinceR	there's way to many of those	Oct 23 22:10
MinceR	s/to/too/	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	MinceR, Then you have to charge them because they use Bluetooth.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Then the built-in battery eventually dies and you throw them away.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Bluetooth isn't exactly hi-fi or reliable either.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Never had it work reliably on anything. Always end up using an audio cable anyway.	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/oaJaVDM.gif	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	it also isn't secure	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	i'm glad they finally figured out how to make headsets compatible with mobile phones in general	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	both my Audio Technica and Steelseries headsets work fine with my phone	Oct 23 22:12
DaemonFC	http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=MP3packer	Oct 23 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.hydrogenaud.io \| MP3packer - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase		Oct 23 22:14
DaemonFC	If you have a bunch of CBR 320 files, it might be worth making a pass over them with MP3packer.	Oct 23 22:14
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: AAC-LD from 1999 that is the low latency version for real time encoding is also worth using.	Oct 23 22:33
oiaohm	DaemonFC: but that one is still a few year off before out of patents.	Oct 23 22:34
DaemonFC	MPEG-LA tried to poison the well for free codecs by saying they wouldn't assess licensing fees for MPEG-4 codecs on the web for a few years.	Oct 23 22:35
DaemonFC	Like a drug dealer giving out some free crack because they know you'll need more later.	Oct 23 22:36
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: MPEG-LA free playback codecs. Not free encode codecs.	Oct 23 22:47
oiaohm	DaemonFC: A playback codec without any means of encoding that format does have very limited usage.	Oct 23 22:48
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/H3WzmDY.gifv	Oct 23 22:54
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mmu_man	https://blog.cozycloud.cc/post/2017/10/23/CFP-FOSDEM-2018-Decentralized-Internet-Privacy :)	Oct 23 23:39
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Cold_Night	Oct 24 00:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Based on Ubuntu 17.10 https://t.co/WhjzsZutek	Oct 24 02:46
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Librem 5 Linux Phone to Include Nextcloud's End-to-End	Oct 24 02:47
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #RedHat: Public Sector, #InFluxData, New Chairman of the	Oct 24 02:47
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by A look at Ubuntu 17.10 Artful	Oct 24 02:47
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Aardvarkhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/105865	Oct 24 02:47
TweetTuxMachines	(https://t.co/FwDC2wSpzT) (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 02:47
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 24 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 24 02:48
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of the Open	Oct 24 02:48
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DaemonFC	Linux 4.13.9 is out. Not terribly important.	Oct 24 03:17
DaemonFC	https://lwn.net/Articles/737206/	Oct 24 03:17
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DaemonFC	https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/stable-queue.git/diff/queue-4.13/usb-core-fix-out-of-bounds-access-bug-in-usb_get_bos_descriptor.patch?id=586f03d30623c1f87f7647e440420f790de44630	Oct 24 03:21
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DaemonFC	That's going to need a CVE.	Oct 24 03:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922651086753759233	Oct 24 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	TheSSS 23.0 https://t.co/nCtbKNhAZc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 03:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922652755378016256	Oct 24 03:41
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Kylin 17.10 and Recommended Applications for	Oct 24 03:41
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 17.10	Oct 24 03:41
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DaemonFC	Now Seamonkey is doing releases without any announcement, apparently.	Oct 24 03:51
DaemonFC	There's a 2.49.1 RPM but the Seamonkey website says 2.48 is the latest.	Oct 24 03:51
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: wow, it's still going?	Oct 24 04:08
schestowitz	After all these years?	Oct 24 04:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922657580438183936	Oct 24 04:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Ubuntu 17.10	Oct 24 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/37f2q34ZSH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 04:09
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, Yeah. Trying it out.	Oct 24 04:16
DaemonFC	Sync is broken.	Oct 24 04:16
DaemonFC	I searched and found it's a "known issue".	Oct 24 04:16
DaemonFC	It doesn't have ChatZilla by default anymore, but you can add it.	Oct 24 04:16
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, It seems like 2.49 is based on Firefox ESR 52.4	Oct 24 04:17
schestowitz	I just stay with qupzilla for now	Oct 24 04:22
schestowitz	problem is...	Oct 24 04:22
schestowitz	old version in ubuntu 16.04	Oct 24 04:22
schestowitz	didn't try going outside the repos	Oct 24 04:23
schestowitz	might be worth it, but a tad risky	Oct 24 04:23
DaemonFC	16.04 is the LTS, right?	Oct 24 04:23
DaemonFC	Maybe try the Kubuntu PPA?	Oct 24 04:23
schestowitz	might break settings if moving from 1.x to 2.x	Oct 24 04:23
schestowitz	let me look it up..	Oct 24 04:23
DaemonFC	Or something. Dunno. I have latest build.	Oct 24 04:23
DaemonFC	Fedora 27	Oct 24 04:24
schestowitz	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-conference-2017	Oct 24 04:24
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schestowitz	My version doesn't even do spellcheking	Oct 24 04:24
schestowitz	I saw t he patches	Oct 24 04:24
schestowitz	and the code	Oct 24 04:24
schestowitz	it's done in later versions than mine	Oct 24 04:24
schestowitz	this one suggests building from source	Oct 24 04:25
schestowitz	I don't want to risk breaking what I already have working	Oct 24 04:25
schestowitz	or waste time fixing it	Oct 24 04:25
schestowitz	the LTS ought to have a much newer version	Oct 24 04:25
schestowitz	https://www.linuxhint.com/install-qupzilla-browser-linux/	Oct 24 04:26
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schestowitz	"I recently build qupzilla 2.0 on Ubuntu 16.04. However I have some issues. I can run ./bin/qupzilla but the browser windows is flickering like hell and as soon as I open a url qupzilla crashes. Here are the steps I performed:"	Oct 24 04:26
schestowitz	Trying to see if qupzilla make a "snap"	Oct 24 04:27
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Ubuntu isn't like Fedora.	Oct 24 04:27
DaemonFC	Once a release is frozen, that's it. Some packages get neglected to the point of having hundreds of known security flaws.	Oct 24 04:27
schestowitz	sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nowrep/qupzilla	Oct 24 04:27
schestowitz	sudo apt update	Oct 24 04:27
schestowitz	sudo apt install qupzilla	Oct 24 04:27
DaemonFC	That happened to WebkitGTK+ on Ubuntu but they fixed it after the developer shamed them.	Oct 24 04:27
DaemonFC	I wonder why cubexyz is still using Fedora 1.	Oct 24 04:28
DaemonFC	There's gotta be something newer that runs on that machine.	Oct 24 04:28
DaemonFC	Fedora has a release archive of old versions.	Oct 24 04:28
DaemonFC	They're not supported anymore, but you can still use them as they were when they were EOL.	Oct 24 04:29
schestowitz	4 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.	Oct 24 04:29
DaemonFC	He said he backported KDE 3.4 himself but newer EOL Fedora probably had KDE 3.5.x in it.	Oct 24 04:30
schestowitz	qupzilla/xenial 1.8.9-1~xenial i386 [upgradable from: 1.8.9~dfsg1-3]	Oct 24 04:30
schestowitz	not much of a leap then	Oct 24 04:30
DaemonFC	Or he could install a newer base OS and use Trinity. shrug	Oct 24 04:30
DaemonFC	schestowitz, That oesn't sound like an upgrade.	Oct 24 04:30
DaemonFC	Looks like the same version to me.	Oct 24 04:30
schestowitz	yeah	Oct 24 04:31
DaemonFC	Maybe ppa-purge it.	Oct 24 04:31
DaemonFC	No sense running something from a PPA.	Oct 24 04:31
DaemonFC	If it's not newer.	Oct 24 04:31
schestowitz	I guess it's hopeless	Oct 24 04:31
DaemonFC	Fedora has something similar to PPA called copr.	Oct 24 04:31
schestowitz	I'll just stay with this very old release	Oct 24 04:31
DaemonFC	I've been using Firefox 57 for a couple of weeks now.	Oct 24 04:32
schestowitz	I wonder if after the falkon rename they might actually add it, with newer qt	Oct 24 04:32
DaemonFC	The Kubuntu PPA usually has a newer version of everything that's part of KDE>	Oct 24 04:32
DaemonFC	I used to use it to keep updated with backports of the latest KDE.	Oct 24 04:33
DaemonFC	It's a vicious cycle with them. They get their old version behaving well and then it's time to break everything again.	Oct 24 04:33
schestowitz	http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/02/15/qtwebengine-browser-qupzilla-2-1-1-released-fixes/	Oct 24 04:33
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DaemonFC	Heh, AppImage.	Oct 24 04:35
DaemonFC	I wonder if there's a Flatpak.	Oct 24 04:35
DaemonFC	http://blog.qupzilla.com/2017/01/qupzilla-for-flatpak.html	Oct 24 04:35
DaemonFC	According to this, there is.	Oct 24 04:35
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schestowitz	https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317543	Oct 24 04:37
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schestowitz	I tried	Oct 24 04:39
schestowitz	but doesn't go far trying Fedora stuff for ubuntu	Oct 24 04:39
schestowitz	better try something like snap	Oct 24 04:39
DaemonFC	Flatpak is cross-distro.	Oct 24 04:39
DaemonFC	Anyone can set up a flatpak repo anywhere. Snap uses a central server.	Oct 24 04:40
DaemonFC	Snap is more like Steam.	Oct 24 04:40
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schestowitz	anyway, too much risk trying to mess about with it	Oct 24 04:41
schestowitz	will stay with this old version	Oct 24 04:42
schestowitz	other people who tried it compiled from source	Oct 24 04:42
schestowitz	gn	Oct 24 04:42
DaemonFC	https://www.flickr.com/photos/8345192@N03/sets/72157605215457894/	Oct 24 04:53
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DaemonFC	Netscape 6. UGH!	Oct 24 04:53
DaemonFC	I remember that. Bloated and crashed all the time.	Oct 24 04:53
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MinceR	http://existentialcomics.com/comic/204	Oct 24 07:36
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I noticed that with XWayland, switching tabs in HexChat produced a delay as the text from the channel is rendered to the screen.	Oct 24 07:39
DaemonFC	Doesn't happen under X.	Oct 24 07:39
DaemonFC	It's not a big deal, but noticeable.	Oct 24 07:39
DaemonFC	MinceR, Amazon Basics $17 headphones. Some woman wrote a review saying "Wow. My 23 year old son says these are as goood as Beats and those are the big name brand!".	Oct 24 07:54
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 24 07:54
MinceR	lol	Oct 24 07:54
DaemonFC	I think that's more of a statement on Beats than anything.	Oct 24 07:54
MinceR	well, Amazon Basics can't be too good if it's as bad as beats	Oct 24 07:55
DaemonFC	MinceR, I own a few pairs of headphones. I save the bigger ones for at home listening and the compact ones for on the go, but I don't EVER use earbuds.	Oct 24 07:56
DaemonFC	Tried a few pairs and never liked the result.	Oct 24 07:56
MinceR	same	Oct 24 07:57
DaemonFC	MinceR, Plus they become a sticky mess of earwax and cat hair.	Oct 24 07:57
DaemonFC	That can't be sanitary.	Oct 24 07:57
DaemonFC	MinceR, What's your opinion on usenet?	Oct 24 08:11
DaemonFC	Worth paying for?	Oct 24 08:11
DaemonFC	I used to use it with Deja News before it turned into Google Groups.	Oct 24 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@ppanagopo https://twitter.com/ppanagopo/status/922718462174289920	Oct 24 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	The latest The Pan Pan Daily! https://t.co/l5z2mns9Bp	Oct 24 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	(paper.li) Thanks to @constantinidesa @Underwood_DC	Oct 24 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #google #news	Oct 24 08:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922730101355184129	Oct 24 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Top 5 Linux pain points in 2017	Oct 24 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8RqcXrGa6J (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922730319517814784	Oct 24 08:45
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Oct 24 08:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922730769650470912	Oct 24 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	KDE: Text Input For Every Use, Kdenlive, KDE Promo	Oct 24 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	Activity	Oct 24 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9dizT0cAUX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 08:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922731298564788224	Oct 24 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	OSS: PC-MOS, Open Source Initiative, ErosCoin, Rackspace	Oct 24 08:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XEuzJOAA9U (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 08:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922737376648196096	Oct 24 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Oct 24 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/MHw3Vp71pk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Top 5 Linux pain points in 2017	Oct 24 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/8RqcXrGa6J (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922741528942039040	Oct 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation: Civil Infrastructure Platform,	Oct 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	Community Data License Agreement (CDLA)	Oct 24 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ybLVQFpn9P (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922742378007494656	Oct 24 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	Servers: Kubernetes in plain English, Serverless, Staging	Oct 24 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9L96rMsnJU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 09:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922742674028888064	Oct 24 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	GTK+ 3.92 https://t.co/Sekyft3mUl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 09:37
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schestowitz	> Hi, Roy,	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	>	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	> Here's today's batch.	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	>	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	> Over in Twitter, the beta orbiters that it is comprised of are ramping	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	> up their lies and aspersions against JA and Wikileaks.	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	Yes, he has noticed.	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	He still tweets a lot of the links I send him.	Oct 24 10:23
schestowitz	The fourth key on my keyboard has just gone busted (not totally). How hard is it to manually insert a replacement keyboard (HP)? I reckon it would be simple...	Oct 24 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/922753910674255872	Oct 24 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #gtk	Oct 24 10:23
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cubexyz	Fedora Core 1 was 2.4 and I researched it for a long time and I'm quite knowledgeable about it	Oct 24 13:46
cubexyz	when FC2 came out the kernel was switched to 2.6	Oct 24 13:46
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cubexyz	also it's a sort of a test, anything I write can be tested on that version of gcc on FC1	Oct 24 13:47
cubexyz	anyways, it's just the server and it does that well	Oct 24 13:50
cubexyz	installed redhat 8 on Feb 15th, 2003	Oct 24 13:56
cubexyz	installed FC1 on May 12th, 2004	Oct 24 13:56
cubexyz	and I was using Linux in 1994... but I'm sorry to say I didn't stick with it	Oct 24 13:58
cubexyz	the 1990's were sort of the dark ages of computing which I'd rather forget	Oct 24 13:59
MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/a7DNdD2	Oct 24 13:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922813881134845953	Oct 24 14:17
TweetTuxMachines	Android Roms, Recoveries and bootloaders – All you need	Oct 24 14:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922814250208374784	Oct 24 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Ninite – Install Or Update Multiple Apps Together On	Oct 24 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Windows https://t.co/RfmCG1nrni (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922814480551153665	Oct 24 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon RX Vega 64: AMDGPU-PRO vs. DRM-Next + Mesa	Oct 24 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	17.3-dev https://t.co/Vz7HR2Puws (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Richard Stallman - One Of My Favorites (GNU/Linux)	Oct 24 14:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922816388724609024	Oct 24 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	Teclast T10 Review: A 10-Inch Android Tablet For Under	Oct 24 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	$250	Oct 24 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7zusnDc6tX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922818342351712256	Oct 24 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Richard Stallman - One Of My Favorites (GNU/Linux)	Oct 24 14:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 17.3-dev https://t.co/Vz7HR2Puws (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922820613793898496	Oct 24 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ninite – Install Or Update Multiple Apps Together On	Oct 24 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Windows https://t.co/RfmCG1nrni (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922821958546411520	Oct 24 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Roms, Recoveries and bootloaders – All you need	Oct 24 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922822631535001600	Oct 24 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Oct 24 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/RRpqE24YgH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922823229944795136	Oct 24 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung/Tizen/DeX	Oct 24 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RDGZN8WpRt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922823803050385408	Oct 24 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	Devices: Purism Librem 5, 'IoT', and ConnMan	Oct 24 14:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p8k0yRTlT6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Devices: Purism Librem 5, 'IoT', and ConnMan ...'		Oct 24 14:59
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TweetTuxMachines	ArchLabs 2017.10 Release	Oct 24 15:05
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schestowitz	snap	Oct 24 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922826264330801152	Oct 24 15:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by ArchLabs 2017.10 Release	Oct 24 15:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/qcrxcfzuBH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:39
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Devices: Purism Librem 5, 'IoT', and ConnMan	Oct 24 15:39
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/p8k0yRTlT6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922834969436749824	Oct 24 15:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Samsung/Tizen/DeX	Oct 24 15:39
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/RDGZN8WpRt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922834999933579265	Oct 24 15:40
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Richard Stallman - One Of My Favorites (GNU/Linux)	Oct 24 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ninite – Install Or Update Multiple Apps Together On	Oct 24 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Roms, Recoveries and bootloaders – All you need	Oct 24 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922835090979393536	Oct 24 15:40
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by GTK+ 3.92 https://t.co/Sekyft3mUl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers: Kubernetes in plain English, Serverless, Staging	Oct 24 15:40
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/9L96rMsnJU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922835133488685057	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS: PC-MOS, Open Source Initiative, ErosCoin, Rackspace	Oct 24 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922835173179346944	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Top 5 Linux pain points in 2017	Oct 24 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922835185032364032	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu Kylin 17.10 and Recommended Applications for	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Ubuntu 17.10	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/37f2q34ZSH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/922835200303919104	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by GNU/Linux on Devices: RasnAnd, WinSystems, and Cincoze	Oct 24 15:41
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/mXoeOthwy4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922835530508840960	Oct 24 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Oct 24 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922836160778506261	Oct 24 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	FOSS Events	Oct 24 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/39JYodHS9k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 15:51
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/04EMP	Oct 24 15:56
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games Leftovers	Oct 24 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922862109691662336	Oct 24 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	Links 24/10/2017: GTK+ 3.92, ArchLabs 2017.10	Oct 24 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922862329116680192	Oct 24 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Kaspersky Code, FUD, WPA2, and	Oct 24 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	Crippling Crypto	Oct 24 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yQmCzvWVzr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922863263712497664	Oct 24 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 24 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GVCPPDsT47 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 17:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922864166746107904	Oct 24 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	Container OS Options and CoreOS Review	Oct 24 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jK1JCENcsG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922864546414563328	Oct 24 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Messages to the Media	Oct 24 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gWiYx2kfCR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 17:41
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schestowitz	http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2017/10/16/epo-all-problems-solved/	Oct 24 17:43
schestowitz	"Thorsten, it is indeed still possible that there is an “innocent” explanation. However, let me say that it is becoming increasingly hard to believe in such a version of events. I mean, are we to understand that it is merely coincidence that “technical” problems only affect one post, which post just happens to be on a topic previously affected by a moratorium on reporting?'	Oct 24 17:43
schestowitz	Haha	Oct 24 17:43
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schestowitz	Excuses for censorship	Oct 24 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922865524463357953	Oct 24 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	Mesa 17.3 Coming Soon	Oct 24 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IwCBqI1a3m (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 24 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Releases Subsurface 4.7.1 Dive Planner	Oct 25 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	Configure and Secure Linux Mint https://t.co/uU7jEsHohi	Oct 25 01:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922986349153652736	Oct 25 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	Smallest, cheapest Banana Pi yet ships for $23	Oct 25 01:46
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TweetTuxMachines	Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop,	Oct 25 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	Latest KDE Apps & Frameworks https://t.co/gtcCwq4zu7	Oct 25 01:48
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TweetTuxMachines	Proxmox 5.1 Update Rebases the Virtual Environment to	Oct 25 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 9.2, Linux 4.13 https://t.co/mi6RA4sEXM	Oct 25 01:48
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Proxmox 5.1 Update Rebases the Virtual Environment to...'		Oct 25 01:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop,...'		Oct 25 01:56
schestowitz	#eff in support of #freesw https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/10/public-money-public-code-show-your-support-free-software-europe	Oct 25 01:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:00
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*TweetTuxMachines @RemoteWorkingCo favourited 'Configure and Secure Linux Mint https://t.co/uU7jEsHohi'		Oct 25 02:01
*TweetTuxMachines @Sr_Kraken retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Proxmox 5.1 Update Rebases the Virtual Environment to...'		Oct 25 02:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922991519610568707	Oct 25 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Smallest, cheapest Banana Pi yet ships for $23	Oct 25 02:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/1d9sgi6o3K (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922993310662262784	Oct 25 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linus Torvalds Releases Subsurface 4.7.1 Dive Planner	Oct 25 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Update with New Map Widget https://t.co/xYb2PFhMPX	Oct 25 02:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922994511961346048	Oct 25 02:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922998781297115136	Oct 25 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	pfSense 2.4.1-RELEASE Now Available	Oct 25 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nUhN9eopHF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923001233522036736	Oct 25 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	antiX-17 released	Oct 25 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y3zb17E6nm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923003147861352448	Oct 25 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.11.2	Oct 25 02:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KyeSkQSG1L (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:48
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'antiX-17 released https://t.co/y3zb17E6nm...'		Oct 25 02:52
*TweetTuxMachines @TechJournalist favourited 'antiX-17 released https://t.co/y3zb17E6nm...'		Oct 25 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923004319196053504	Oct 25 02:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923005743241904128	Oct 25 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Space Pirates and Zombies, EVERSPACE, Observer,	Oct 25 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	Unreal Engine	Oct 25 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qvDbga6qxh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 02:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ favourited 'Games: Space Pirates and Zombies, EVERSPACE, Observer, Unreal...'		Oct 25 02:58
*TweetTuxMachines @argumento_ retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Space Pirates and Zombies, EVERSPACE, Observer, Unreal...'		Oct 25 02:59
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Space Pirates and Zombies, EVERSPACE, Observer, Unreal...'		Oct 25 03:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@argumento_ https://twitter.com/argumento_/status/923006340124983296	Oct 25 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ASTROKILL, NeonXS, Shadowtactics Blades of	Oct 25 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	the Shogun are also Unreal Engine games avilable for	Oct 25 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	Linux.	Oct 25 03:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923013667997618176	Oct 25 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	Kodi 17.5 Media Center Released with Support for FFmpeg	Oct 25 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	3.1.11, Retina Devices	Oct 25 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/My17CpNfqo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 03:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923014655320059904	Oct 25 03:35
TweetTuxMachines	Rough Edges of the ROSA Desktop Fresh R9 LXQt	Oct 25 03:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4naAXBsT5r (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 03:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923015181785018368	Oct 25 03:36
TweetTuxMachines	Should You Use Linux Mint's Debian or Standard Edition?	Oct 25 03:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rUfm5ybYju (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 03:36
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rough Edges of the ROSA Desktop Fresh R9...'		Oct 25 03:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923016492475650051	Oct 25 03:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kodi 17.5 Media Center Released with Support for FFmpeg	Oct 25 03:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 3.1.11, Retina Devices	Oct 25 03:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/My17CpNfqo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 03:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Proxmox 5.1 Update Rebases the Virtual Environment to...'		Oct 25 03:43
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop,...'		Oct 25 03:43
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Linus Torvalds Releases Subsurface 4.7.1 Dive Planner Update...'		Oct 25 03:47
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Kodi 17.5 Media Center Released with Support for...'		Oct 25 03:50
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kodi 17.5 Media Center Released with Support for...'		Oct 25 03:50
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linus Torvalds Releases Subsurface 4.7.1 Dive Planner Update...'		Oct 25 03:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Proxmox 5.1 Update Rebases the Virtual Environment to...'		Oct 25 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/dacbarbos/status/923025678177619968	Oct 25 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kodi 17.5 Media Center Released with Support for FFmpeg	Oct 25 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	@dacbarbos 3.1.11, Retina Devices	Oct 25 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/My17CpNfqo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 04:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923026167040561152	Oct 25 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: AMD, Intel, Mesa	Oct 25 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YNLXG2qSa8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 04:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923026826481586176	Oct 25 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Graphics: AMD, Intel, Mesa	Oct 25 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/YNLXG2qSa8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 04:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@sora_milana https://twitter.com/sora_milana/status/923043563021242368	Oct 25 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @schestowitz sad little zog nigga has 7000	Oct 25 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	fake followers and nobody watching. I'm watching little	Oct 25 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	nigga. See Ya soon	Oct 25 05:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923051138215219205	Oct 25 05:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923051190186803200	Oct 25 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923051265738801152	Oct 25 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Latest KDE Apps & Frameworks https://t.co/gtcCwq4zu7	Oct 25 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923051279269679104	Oct 25 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 05:59
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/gE3pLhG.jpg	Oct 25 06:50
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/eQqm4	Oct 25 07:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923051400208244736	Oct 25 07:48
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Updates, Kaspersky Code, FUD, WPA2, and	Oct 25 07:48
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Crippling Crypto	Oct 25 07:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923092836983169024	Oct 25 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released!	Oct 25 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 08:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released! https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB...'		Oct 25 08:49
*TweetTuxMachines @kushaldas retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released! https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB...'		Oct 25 08:49
*TweetTuxMachines @kushaldas favourited 'Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released! https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB...'		Oct 25 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923094674486759425	Oct 25 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Leftovers	Oct 25 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sM8obkfgHv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 08:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923094764110667776	Oct 25 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu Leftovers	Oct 25 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/sM8obkfgHv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 10:33
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MinceR	https://twitter.com/JaimsVanDerBeek/status/921175367854866432	Oct 25 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JaimsVanDerBeek: Whoever did this is a damn genius. https://t.co/htTVbET6c2		Oct 25 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JaimsVanDerBeek: Whoever did this is a damn genius. https://t.co/htTVbET6c2		Oct 25 11:17
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schestowitz	MinceR: very good	Oct 25 13:51
schestowitz	the "wanker" one is funny	Oct 25 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923169408771608576	Oct 25 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung adds more secure Artik models, and switches from	Oct 25 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora to Ubuntu https://t.co/wysqVXSFHJ	Oct 25 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923171707921354752	Oct 25 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Who's building Linux in 2017? https://t.co/WSaGaboUA5	Oct 25 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Who's building Linux in 2017? https://t.co/WSaGaboUA5'		Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	@conchezness https://twitter.com/conchezness/status/923175652865597440	Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How does one add content without access to	Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	online Metadata sites?	Oct 25 14:13
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/WWpQi	Oct 25 14:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923178379582562305	Oct 25 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Samsung adds more secure Artik models, and switches from	Oct 25 14:41
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Fedora to Ubuntu https://t.co/wysqVXSFHJ	Oct 25 14:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923182737984557056	Oct 25 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Flexibility, Choice, and Open Source Drive Oracle's Cloud	Oct 25 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Focus https://t.co/wUY66gkH2g (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923183933029797888	Oct 25 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Canonical founder explains why they abandoned the Unity	Oct 25 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	project for Ubuntu https://t.co/B3LeOgvesB	Oct 25 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923184202237075457	Oct 25 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/HhB3fFrzNb	Oct 25 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical founder explains why they abandoned the Unity...'		Oct 25 14:55
*TweetTuxMachines @TechJournalist favourited 'Canonical founder explains why they abandoned the Unity...'		Oct 25 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/923186250261061637	Oct 25 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical founder explains why they abandoned the Unity	Oct 25 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	@koolhead17 project for Ubuntu https://t.co/B3LeOgvesB	Oct 25 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 15:01
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 15:01
MinceR	because it involved work?	Oct 25 15:08
oiaohm	MinceR: its the cost of the CLA and it seams Canonical does not get it yet.	Oct 25 15:09
MinceR	:>	Oct 25 15:10
r_schestowitz	gnome-shell = red hat mostly	Oct 25 15:16
r_schestowitz	same for systemd that it's growingly connected to	Oct 25 15:16
r_schestowitz	and wayland	Oct 25 15:16
r_schestowitz	no Mir	Oct 25 15:16
r_schestowitz	Red Hat or the highway	Oct 25 15:16
oiaohm	r_schestowitz: Not exactly. Redhat does not have CLA restrictions on submits.	Oct 25 15:25
oiaohm	r_schestowitz: https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/ff2478d1-Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I_v1.2.pdf If you have not read it this is a down right good read.	Oct 25 15:26
oiaohm	r_schestowitz: then remember people working in some countries are not allow to claim copyright of what they are making yet they are allowed to submit to normal open source licensed projects.	Oct 25 15:27
oiaohm	r_schestowitz: Canonical with the CLA is their way or the highway. This is why they will never be effective competition to Redhat. Reason why Mir, upstart, unity were all doomed from the start.	Oct 25 15:30
MinceR	now they're both "the microsoft way or the highway"	Oct 25 15:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923187648591749121	Oct 25 15:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/HhB3fFrzNb	Oct 25 15:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 15:33
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oiaohm	MinceR: wrong logic. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/graphs/contributors When you look at contributors to the likes of wayland and systemd and even gnome. You see something interesting. Redhat is never more than 30% of the work that makes it.	Oct 25 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contributors to systemd/systemd · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jadvh ]		Oct 25 15:41
oiaohm	MinceR: so redhat does not 100 percent set the path. Question comes why are other parties following.	Oct 25 15:42
oiaohm	MinceR: https://media.ccc.de/v/ASG2017-124-streamlining_systemd_s_code_and_safety << This took them long enough. To work out code that static analysis tools cannot process is bad.	Oct 25 15:46
MinceR	i'm more interested in where that path leads	Oct 25 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.ccc.de - Streamlining systemd's code and safety		Oct 25 15:46
oiaohm	MinceR: and that video developer is from https://pantheon.io/ who is talking on converting systemd to C++ like gdb and gcc is becoming.	Oct 25 15:52
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MinceR	rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic	Oct 25 15:53
oiaohm	MinceR: kind of we are now seeing the proper code designers coming in.	Oct 25 15:59
r_schestowitz	from a friend:	Oct 25 16:23
r_schestowitz	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/why-did-ubuntu-drop-unity-mark-shuttleworth-explains	Oct 25 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Why Did Ubuntu Drop Unity? Mark Shuttleworth Explains - OMG! Ubuntu!		Oct 25 16:23
r_schestowitz	# cashing out and leaving the business	Oct 25 16:23
r_schestowitz	# which ones are from M$	Oct 25 16:23
r_schestowitz	=	Oct 25 16:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923232974111375360	Oct 25 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	KDE and GNOME: Qt 5.10 Beta 2, Falkon, KDE Promo,	Oct 25 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	GCompris, GNOME Foundation, Retro-GTK	Oct 25 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ctpsPuj56s (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923233508289601542	Oct 25 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Oct 25 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bXakBymtDP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923234190170128385	Oct 25 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	GNU: FSFE Newsletter, Glibc, GCC	Oct 25 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/P0ZxGD0vKT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923234686939299840	Oct 25 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Oct 25 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/L4L8sUvdVi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:16
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 18:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923236688142401537	Oct 25 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: Shuttleworth Speaks Out, Ubuntu 17.10 Plans,	Oct 25 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Xubuntu 18.04 Plans	Oct 25 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cD2s9755Ms (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:24
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923238861685354496	Oct 25 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics: RADV, Vulkan, Gallium3D. Freedreno, Mesa,	Oct 25 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	OpenGL	Oct 25 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XjQAhb8lS9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923239551967137793	Oct 25 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel/Linux Foundation: VMware, Community Data License	Oct 25 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	Agreement, ZFS, CNCF	Oct 25 18:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hzR7amSe5X (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:33
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 18:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923241059894943750	Oct 25 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	PredictionIO and Apache Software Foundation	Oct 25 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AQLERlC9FG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:38
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923242271159537666	Oct 25 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	Servers: Containers, OPNFV, 'DevOps', Xen	Oct 25 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k18MJlUivw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 18:59
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 18:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923247515981447169	Oct 25 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Reaper, Updates, Reproducible Builds, Airbags	Oct 25 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XsXtIoaY5u (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 19:01
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923248074062999555	Oct 25 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	Android leftovers	Oct 25 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	tp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/105959	Oct 25 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	(https://t.co/kCI8QbK2So) (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 19:02
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MinceR	oiaohm: too late	Oct 25 19:11
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DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Mint-Dropping-KDE	Oct 25 19:32
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DaemonFC	There was never much reason to use Linux Mint KDE anyway.	Oct 25 19:32
MinceR	or linux mint in general	Oct 25 19:34
MinceR	DaemonFC: my opinion on usenet is that it was too damn difficult to get onto while it still mattered, and it's definitely not worth paying for	Oct 25 19:34
DaemonFC	MinceR, I think most people use it for piracy now.	Oct 25 19:35
MinceR	too expensive for that	Oct 25 19:35
DaemonFC	But I guess there's probably little there that isn't on torrents and the "retention" limit eventually purges things.	Oct 25 19:35
DaemonFC	Even if it is retained for ten years, it will be gone eventually.	Oct 25 19:36
DaemonFC	There are still torrents older than that which work.	Oct 25 19:36
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Looks like there's another systemd-free option. AntiX just dropped it.	Oct 25 19:54
DaemonFC	https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20171023#news	Oct 25 19:58
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DaemonFC	Manjaro plans to use the Jade application kit to integrate Microsoft Office for the Web as desktop apps.	Oct 25 19:58
MinceR	:)	Oct 25 20:01
MinceR	too bad manjaro dropped openrc	Oct 25 20:01
DaemonFC	I'd probably use Ubuntu MATE if it supported HiDPI properly.	Oct 25 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923248293966213121	Oct 25 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	Android leftovers	Oct 25 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kCI8QbK2So (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 20:07
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlwHT4IdRc	Oct 25 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M134 Minigun: The Modern Gatling Gun - YouTube		Oct 25 20:10
DaemonFC	http://www.newsweek.com/under-trump-us-passport-falls-sixth-place-global-ranking-692594	Oct 25 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com \| Under Trump, U.S. Passport Value for Global Travel Is Plummeting		Oct 25 20:24
DaemonFC	"The U.S. travel troubles have taken off since Trump assumed office, as several countries have revoked visa-free access for American passport holders. Turkey and the Central African Republic revoked the easy travel, and the European Union in March voted to end visa-free travel for Americans in a nonbinding resolution. The EU, though, ultimately opted not to go through with the motion."	Oct 25 20:24
DaemonFC	Of course they didn't. Their economies are in trouble and rely heavily on tourism.	Oct 25 20:25
DaemonFC	"The U.S. State Department began a travel ban on North Korea in September—the first time the Trump administration has explicitly prohibited Americans from visiting another nation."	Oct 25 20:26
DaemonFC	Considering that North Korea had a habit of arresting and torturing Americans who went there, it was already a bad idea to go there.	Oct 25 20:26
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/aBHdZ	Oct 25 20:36
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MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aoO8p1x	Oct 25 20:46
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oiaohm	MinceR: really only this year starting focusing on having continuous integration testing for the Linux kernel you would call too late as well.	Oct 25 21:54
MinceR	indeed	Oct 25 21:54
MinceR	but at least Linux's design isn't total garbage	Oct 25 21:54
oiaohm	MinceR: the Linux world has a long history of doing stuff technically too late.	Oct 25 21:54
MinceR	and it wasn't pushed into allegedly stable releases in a form that was utterly unreliable, unusable and insecure	Oct 25 21:54
oiaohm	MinceR: and it managing to work out somehow.	Oct 25 21:54
MinceR	well, it isn't working out well now	Oct 25 21:54
MinceR	i've just heard somebody's server was hit by a systemd bug today at work	Oct 25 21:55
MinceR	they couldn't even reboot the damn thing remotely	Oct 25 21:55
oiaohm	MinceR: that would be covered in why systemd code need streamlining and cleaned up.	Oct 25 21:56
oiaohm	MinceR: or replaced	Oct 25 21:56
MinceR	yes, _before_ it replaces a critical component in "stable" distro releases	Oct 25 21:56
MinceR	not several releases and years after	Oct 25 21:56
MinceR	and especially not forced onto people with dependency abuse	Oct 25 21:57
MinceR	in fact, red hat/gnome's conduct is currently sufficient reason to never adopt systemd	Oct 25 21:57
MinceR	this behavior should not be rewarded, it should be punished	Oct 25 21:58
MinceR	so it is not repeated	Oct 25 21:58
oiaohm	It would be nice if init system depend-any abuse was not historic action. sysvinit with udevdthen attmept to use that udev with non sysvinit use to bring out all kinds of problems.	Oct 25 21:58
MinceR	it would be nice if past software design flaws were not used as excuses for political trickery to encroach on users' freedoms	Oct 25 21:59
oiaohm	systemd has basically expanded what was existing behaviour that historically was never seen as wrong but always should have been seen as wrong..	Oct 25 22:00
MinceR	no, not really	Oct 25 22:01
oiaohm	consolekit, udev and many other parts gave me hell back in 1998 when I attempted using alternative init systems.	Oct 25 22:01
oiaohm	Because they were doing stuff expecting sysvinit.	Oct 25 22:02
MinceR	yes, there was poetteringware before systemd	Oct 25 22:02
MinceR	it should all burn in hell	Oct 25 22:02
MinceR	where it belongs	Oct 25 22:02
oiaohm	but poettering was not involved in those projects.	Oct 25 22:03
oiaohm	Back then.	Oct 25 22:03
MinceR	they seem to reflect the same attitude, though	Oct 25 22:03
oiaohm	I see it as more truthful now than back then. Because those individual parts back then would say in there documentation they supported any init system and you find out they did not when you attempt to use them.	Oct 25 22:05
MinceR	maybe they wanted to support them all but were inept	Oct 25 22:05
MinceR	now they actively push to eradicate all GNU/Linux systems	Oct 25 22:05
oiaohm	Only running integration testing with sysvinit back then caused a lot of it.	Oct 25 22:05
oiaohm	This is exactly the same problem systemd has now with the parts it providing but they are upfront about it.	Oct 25 22:06
MinceR	at least they did testing back then	Oct 25 22:06
oiaohm	Less level of testing than systemd does now.	Oct 25 22:06
oiaohm	Because they use to use the excuse we did not have the latest version of X when we tested so if you had that version of X everything would have worked.	Oct 25 22:07
MinceR	they released at least one systemd version that couldn't mount any filesystems at all, and as such could never boot	Oct 25 22:08
MinceR	https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89383	Oct 25 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org \| 89383 – systemd-219 can't mount devices		Oct 25 22:08
MinceR	the most minimal smoke testing would have found that out	Oct 25 22:08
MinceR	therefore they do zero testing	Oct 25 22:08
MinceR	just like their idols at microsoft	Oct 25 22:08
oiaohm	MinceR: 1996 failure to process fstab if you had used labels because udev had eaten them.	Oct 25 22:08
oiaohm	MinceR: long history of using Linux basically way systemd has stuffed up I have basically seen sysvinit do close or worse.	Oct 25 22:09
MinceR	oh, i'm sure	Oct 25 22:09
oiaohm	MinceR: with sysvinit fragmented development.	Oct 25 22:09
MinceR	ooh, "fragmentation"!	Oct 25 22:09
MinceR	the damned community doesn't march to the dictator's drum?	Oct 25 22:10
oiaohm	fragmented development causing them to be unable to to proper integration testing.	Oct 25 22:10
MinceR	redhat will have to die so that the IT industry can survive	Oct 25 22:10
oiaohm	Not really not doing proper integration testing early on in development so bugs are pulled out early is a behaviour that has for years need to stop.	Oct 25 22:12
oiaohm	To be correct decades the problem exists before Linux.	Oct 25 22:13
MinceR	i don't really care how hard they fail at software engineering as long as they keep their fucking hands off my stuff	Oct 25 22:13
MinceR	yes, the software crisis started ages ago and it's still ongoing	Oct 25 22:13
MinceR	redhat's conduct has no place in free software	Oct 25 22:14
oiaohm	really its not redhat conduct alone.	Oct 25 22:14
MinceR	yeah, canonical needs to die too	Oct 25 22:15
oiaohm	Redhat put forwards systemd and many parties have liked it over the sysvinit design and mess.	Oct 25 22:15
MinceR	and so does microsoft and apple	Oct 25 22:15
oiaohm	Of course that does not mean systemd does not need a major clean up.	Oct 25 22:15
MinceR	novell/suse has already died, may they rot in hell	Oct 25 22:15
oiaohm	novell attempted the same as what canonical did with contributor agreements and worse pay for patent licenses.	Oct 25 22:16
oiaohm	Canonical has totally failed to learn from history.	Oct 25 22:16
MinceR	novell tried to sell the community and their own clients out to microsoft	Oct 25 22:17
MinceR	redhat and canonical are trying to do the exact same thing now	Oct 25 22:17
MinceR	http://developers.redhat.com/blog/2015/11/04/red-hat-microsoft-making-dot-net-on-linux-for-enterprises/	Oct 25 22:17
oiaohm	Project run by Canonical and Novell it nothing strange to see 90%+ from those two companies.	Oct 25 22:17
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MinceR	https://www.redhat.com/en/partners/strategic-alliance/microsoft	Oct 25 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com \| Microsoft Strategic Alliance		Oct 25 22:17
MinceR	http://www.zdnet.com/article/canonical-and-microsoft-working-together-on-containers/	Oct 25 22:17
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MinceR	red hat's and canonical's malware is pushed in the winblows store also, afaik	Oct 25 22:18
MinceR	and on azure	Oct 25 22:18
oiaohm	MinceR: what year do you think the first deal between redhat and Microsoft is.	Oct 25 22:18
MinceR	and they both pay microsoft for access to uefi	Oct 25 22:18
MinceR	i don't care	Oct 25 22:18
MinceR	it's a pity that i did not know what a bunch of criminals they were, but now i know	Oct 25 22:18
MinceR	i hope they die asap	Oct 25 22:18
oiaohm	MinceR: 1997	Oct 25 22:18
oiaohm	Yet from 1997 to now Redhat has never attempted to sell their customers.	Oct 25 22:19
oiaohm	Every time Redhat does a deal with Microsoft. Redhat takes money from Microsoft for development.	Oct 25 22:19
MinceR	and redhat legimitized microsoft's control over pcs that get sold now	Oct 25 22:19
oiaohm	That is not new.	Oct 25 22:20
MinceR	and redhat encroached on the freedoms of GNU/Linux users	Oct 25 22:20
MinceR	and redhat destroyed debian	Oct 25 22:20
MinceR	and redhat is legitimizing microsoft's claims of ownership over linux and linux-based systems	Oct 25 22:20
oiaohm	Multi init mostly did not work under debian before systemd.	Oct 25 22:20
MinceR	if this is not selling out the community and the fools who pay red hat for disservices, i don't know what is	Oct 25 22:20
MinceR	there was a working init under debian before systemd	Oct 25 22:21
MinceR	now there is not	Oct 25 22:21
MinceR	replacing init was doable on debian before systemd	Oct 25 22:21
MinceR	now it is not	Oct 25 22:21
oiaohm	there are less open issues with systemd than with sysvinit under debian.	Oct 25 22:21
oiaohm	even at the worst point.	Oct 25 22:21
MinceR	i don't care if there are more issues	Oct 25 22:22
oiaohm	Its the test of working.	Oct 25 22:22
oiaohm	sysvinit was not working that well for debian.	Oct 25 22:22
MinceR	i don't care how debian's bug tracking is broken	Oct 25 22:22
MinceR	when they have already betrayed their users	Oct 25 22:22
MinceR	sysvinit was working better for debian than systemd ever did, or ever will	Oct 25 22:23
MinceR	and since debian has handed control over to red hat, they will be marginalized, made irrelevant, and killed	Oct 25 22:23
MinceR	and they'll deserve it too	Oct 25 22:23
oiaohm	MinceR: I run debian I have run it since 1996	Oct 25 22:23
MinceR	enjoy your lendows, then	Oct 25 22:23
MinceR	btw, microsoft will gladly sell a system to you that is what debian will become	Oct 25 22:23
oiaohm	don't tell me that sysvinit worked better under debian than systemd ever did. Stack of custom scripting with strange unique debian bugs has not been fun.	Oct 25 22:24
oiaohm	having sysvinit depand for manual ordering and not being able to get back into system if that was wrong was also not fun.	Oct 25 22:24
MinceR	being able to boot and shutdown reliably was more fun than not being able to do so	Oct 25 22:24
MinceR	having disabled services not start is more fun than having them start	Oct 25 22:25
oiaohm	Read debain bug reports failure to shutdown was common.	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	failing to start services and failing to reap zombies is less fun than those functions working	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	not as common as it is now.	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	i don't need to read debian's bug tracker to know how common issues are now	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	because people i know keep getting issues	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	they don't want to manage this shit, but they're forced to.	Oct 25 22:25
oiaohm	sysvinit pretending to start services was common.	Oct 25 22:25
MinceR	[citation needed]	Oct 25 22:26
MinceR	there's a difference between "failed to start once or twice" and "fails so often it's a common complaint"	Oct 25 22:26
oiaohm	That is the PID recycling problem.	Oct 25 22:26
MinceR	oh, lol	Oct 25 22:26
MinceR	that old canard again	Oct 25 22:26
MinceR	what about the whole cgroups not working problem?	Oct 25 22:26
MinceR	do you think equivocation will make that go away?	Oct 25 22:27
oiaohm	cgroups not work you use to run into when you were attempt openvz and equal.	Oct 25 22:27
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oiaohm	that again is those running server solutions running into hell with broken bits of the Linux kernel not being fixed.	Oct 25 22:28
MinceR	i do not	Oct 25 22:28
MinceR	and none of this bullshitting makes the fact that ratcrap deliberately swallowed udev and changed applications to force systemd on users go away	Oct 25 22:28
MinceR	or the fact that ratcrap deliberately attempted to use systemd itself to force Linus to merge the even more horrible atrocity known as kdbus into Linux	Oct 25 22:29
oiaohm	consolekit before system you find applications design to 100 percent depend on it.	Oct 25 22:29
MinceR	or the fact that systemd hijacked the debug kernel parameter and caused crashes	Oct 25 22:29
MinceR	because poettering believes everything belongs to him for him to do with as he pleases.	Oct 25 22:29
MinceR	consolekit is garbage	Oct 25 22:30
MinceR	polkit is garbage	Oct 25 22:30
MinceR	none of this makes systemd any less shitty	Oct 25 22:30
oiaohm	The kernel parameters how you were allowed to use them was not documented. Orcale db was the first to abuse the debug kernel parameters.	Oct 25 22:30
MinceR	or redhat's conduct any less unacceptable	Oct 25 22:30
MinceR	i don't care what loophole poettering found in the documentation	Oct 25 22:30
oiaohm	systemd was the about 40 program to abuse that bit.	Oct 25 22:30
MinceR	using a non-namespaced kernel parameter as a trigger for a DoS is unacceptable.	Oct 25 22:31
oiaohm	With it causing all kinds of issues.	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	which of those 40 programs prevented the kernel from booting?	Oct 25 22:31
oiaohm	Yep	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	which of those 40 programs was forced on users who did not want them?	Oct 25 22:31
oiaohm	Every single one.	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	see, this is some fidesz level kindergarten bullshit	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	"they did it so we must be allowed to, too!"	Oct 25 22:31
oiaohm	If you had a solution required orcale db that was kind of forced on you.	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	fuck oracle	Oct 25 22:31
MinceR	their database is garbage	Oct 25 22:32
MinceR	any anything that depends on it is also garbage	Oct 25 22:32
MinceR	it's a random pile of broken shit software they bought from everywhere, none of which works together	Oct 25 22:32
oiaohm	Failure to boot is one of reasons people maintain systems use to hate Orcale db .	Oct 25 22:32
MinceR	and even their command line is an inoperable pile of shit	Oct 25 22:32
MinceR	and their db eats RAM like candy, with an empty db	Oct 25 22:32
MinceR	and one of the reasons people hate systemd.	Oct 25 22:33
oiaohm	Remember until systemd using namespaces in kernel command line was in fact recommended against in some of the Linux kernel documentation.	Oct 25 22:33
oiaohm	Out of fear of making command line to the Linux kernel too long.	Oct 25 22:33
oiaohm	So that one was systemd obeying Linux kernel documentation.	Oct 25 22:34
oiaohm	Yes Linux kernel need more testing and better documentation that is validate for giving correct advice.	Oct 25 22:35
oiaohm	MinceR: so there is a long list of items systemd has got fixing in the Linux kernel between code and documentation because it broke stuff.	Oct 25 22:36
MinceR	oiaohm: remember when gnome was free software?	Oct 25 22:36
MinceR	remember when gnome didn't force systemd on users?	Oct 25 22:36
MinceR	remember when gnome didn't try to trick users into using mono?	Oct 25 22:36
MinceR	remember when gnome didn't try to take away all choice from the user?	Oct 25 22:36
oiaohm	I remember when gnome would fail if you did not have consolekit.	Oct 25 22:37
oiaohm	And that was first version.	Oct 25 22:37
MinceR	i remember when gnome worked and consolekit didn't even exist.	Oct 25 22:37
oiaohm	Ie first version of consolekit	Oct 25 22:37
MinceR	i remember when gnome not only let me choose my window manager but actually gave me a control panel widget for it	Oct 25 22:37
MinceR	i remember when gnome panel could swallow any window	Oct 25 22:37
MinceR	i remember when gnome had a workable print dialog	Oct 25 22:38
oiaohm	Print dialog has been broken many times in gnome.	Oct 25 22:38
MinceR	that's when gnome (and perhaps red hat) respected the user's freedoms	Oct 25 22:38
MinceR	indeed it has	Oct 25 22:38
oiaohm	So really you cannot link print dialog to new behavour.	Oct 25 22:38
MinceR	https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00022.html	Oct 25 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mail.gnome.org \| [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME [ http://ur1.ca/fpqkh ]		Oct 25 22:39
MinceR	well, fucking users over is not new to gnome	Oct 25 22:39
MinceR	doesn't make it acceptable	Oct 25 22:39
MinceR	especially from a project that is part of the gnu project	Oct 25 22:39
MinceR	which is managed by a bunch of frauds who call themselves the "Free Software Foundation"	Oct 25 22:39
oiaohm	Remember gnome starts because KDE was using Qt under GPL license. And for some reason the desktop could not be pure GPL but had to be LGPL so that commercial programs could extend it.	Oct 25 22:40
MinceR	yeah, and then for a while kde was free software and highly usable	Oct 25 22:41
MinceR	then 4.0 came out	Oct 25 22:41
MinceR	and then they started pushing systemd too	Oct 25 22:41
oiaohm	That is kind of wrong.	Oct 25 22:42
MinceR	is it?	Oct 25 22:42
MinceR	what is wrong about it?	Oct 25 22:42
oiaohm	It was a kde developer who proposed the logind solution to get away from consolekit.	Oct 25 22:42
oiaohm	and then systemd absorbed that.	Oct 25 22:43
MinceR	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235	Oct 25 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org \| KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jrnmq ]		Oct 25 22:43
MinceR	i'd like to see how you spin this as not pushing systemd	Oct 25 22:43
oiaohm	Both of those parts were KDE proposes to freedesktop	Oct 25 22:44
oiaohm	Both were design on the theory to be cross platform.	Oct 25 22:44
MinceR	that only makes kde even more cancerous	Oct 25 22:44
MinceR	ah yes, the microsoft school of cross platform	Oct 25 22:45
MinceR	runs on any platform you like, as long as it's systemd.	Oct 25 22:45
oiaohm	No the first versions of both of them run on bsd, Linux, OS X and windows.	Oct 25 22:45
MinceR	i'm sick of this equivocation and bullshitting about as much as i'm sick of the evil actions they're used to prop up.	Oct 25 22:45
oiaohm	all that extra code disappeared in the merge into systemd.	Oct 25 22:45
MinceR	yeah, the old bait-and-switch technique	Oct 25 22:46
MinceR	pretty sure it's even older than IBM	Oct 25 22:46
oiaohm	So with logind timedated KDE has really been a victim.	Oct 25 22:46
MinceR	riiiight	Oct 25 22:47
MinceR	poor little kde was taken advantage of	Oct 25 22:47
oiaohm	logind from kde was to attempt to clean the KDE code base out to having to carry around 12 different login system support that are all different levels of broken.	Oct 25 22:47
MinceR	and there's just no way they could have prevented it or fixed it	Oct 25 22:47
MinceR	riiiight	Oct 25 22:48
MinceR	the best way to fix having support for 12 different login systems is to simply not support any login systems	Oct 25 22:48
MinceR	or maybe support the 13th one	Oct 25 22:48
MinceR	which is also broken	Oct 25 22:48
MinceR	but fuck users, right?	Oct 25 22:48
oiaohm	The theory of logind is that it would come an single abstraction layer to them all.	Oct 25 22:49
MinceR	no, the theory of logind is the theory of systemd, which is to assimilate all software in a single evil broken non-free hairball	Oct 25 22:49
oiaohm	So that the DE would not have to probe around searching for what login system was present.	Oct 25 22:49
MinceR	or reimplement them in an even more broken and insecure way and then prevent users from using the old implementations	Oct 25 22:49
MinceR	i know a better way to ensure that the DE doesn't have to probe for anything	Oct 25 22:50
MinceR	it's simply to not install and not run the DE, ever again	Oct 25 22:50
MinceR	if these challenges are too much for the KDE developers, they can go look for work they're qualified for	Oct 25 22:50
MinceR	for example, they could work as doorstops	Oct 25 22:50
MinceR	or boat anchors	Oct 25 22:50
MinceR	if they just deleted all the code they ever wrote and never touched a computer ever again, they wouldn't have to deal with these pesky challenges ever again!	Oct 25 22:51
oiaohm	The probing to hell problem applies to all X11 display managers that attempt to support all the different combinations.	Oct 25 22:51
MinceR	X11 works fine without any display manager	Oct 25 22:51
MinceR	it's actually more flexible than with display managers	Oct 25 22:51
MinceR	if i want to, i can change my .xinitrc before i start x	Oct 25 22:52
MinceR	i can even have it take parameters via envvars	Oct 25 22:52
MinceR	i don't have to choose from the couple sessions installed on the system by the administrators	Oct 25 22:52
oiaohm	That kinds of tells you something that when you use a display manager things become less flexible. All the display managers end up restricting stuff because the items like how to perform a login or check a password or check what user is meant to have rights has been a huge stack of mess.	Oct 25 22:54
MinceR	or because the developers don't care about what the users want	Oct 25 22:54
MinceR	gnome "developers" wish they were apple "developers"	Oct 25 22:54
MinceR	kde "developers" wish they were gnome "developers"	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	and apple doesn't give a fuck what you want	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	they just take a massive amount of money in exchange for some horribly ugly massively broken pile of crap	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	which gives you, the user, zero control	Oct 25 22:55
oiaohm	No it mostly been having 200 companies design unique security designs then make their own bastard mess that is incompadible then custom patch display managers to work with it.	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	and this is what gnome and kde aspires to	Oct 25 22:55
oiaohm	This starts before Linux exists.	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	this is where systemd takes useds	Oct 25 22:55
MinceR	sure, hostile IT corporations existed before Linux existed	Oct 25 22:56
MinceR	IBM, m$ and crApple all existed before Linux existed	Oct 25 22:56
oiaohm	This is not IT corporations. This is like NSA and selinux.	Oct 25 22:56
MinceR	yeah, NSA too	Oct 25 22:56
MinceR	with their backdoors in systemd	Oct 25 22:57
MinceR	and the backdoors they hoped to get Linus to integrate, but he refused	Oct 25 22:57
oiaohm	and in sysvinit	Oct 25 22:57
MinceR	so they went to redhat and systemd was born	Oct 25 22:57
oiaohm	If you read sysvinit source you find libselinux used by the PID1 as well.	Oct 25 22:57
MinceR	and here you are, advertising this massively bloated NSA backdoor every week	Oct 25 22:57
MinceR	there's pre-SELinux sysvinit	Oct 25 22:57
oiaohm	True but you also find other additions in it before selinux that were questionable.	Oct 25 22:58
MinceR	i could question anything	Oct 25 22:58
oiaohm	sysvinit is not example of a clean PID1 process.	Oct 25 22:58
MinceR	indeed	Oct 25 22:58
MinceR	but it's infinitely cleaner than systemd	Oct 25 22:58
MinceR	and it's infinitely easier to replace with one that is clean	Oct 25 22:58
oiaohm	Not exactly.	Oct 25 22:59
MinceR	because it doesn't bring with itself 9001 other APIs that gnome and kde and other broken shit then depends on	Oct 25 22:59
oiaohm	I was attempt to replace sysvinit in 1998 because I was seeing issues	Oct 25 22:59
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MinceR	sysvinit doesn't bring with itself a timedated, or a hostnamed, or a wallpaperd, or whatever-poettering-thought-would-be-funny-d	Oct 25 22:59
MinceR	but you see no issues in systemd	Oct 25 22:59
MinceR	good for you!	Oct 25 22:59
oiaohm	I see systemd as a evil we need to happen.	Oct 25 23:00
MinceR	well, then use it	Oct 25 23:00
MinceR	you have the freedom to choose that way	Oct 25 23:00
oiaohm	That most of systemd at worse is expand on what was already happening.	Oct 25 23:00
oiaohm	That we were ignoring.	Oct 25 23:00
MinceR	i see systemd as a software catastrophe that's best restricted to redhat's test environment	Oct 25 23:00
MinceR	which is entirely disjunct from my systems.	Oct 25 23:01
MinceR	and once again, such demonstrations do not need to take place in other people's production environments.	Oct 25 23:01
oiaohm	MinceR: so would it been better if upstart instead had one with cannonical 100 percent in control.	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	it's sufficient for poettering to show them off in a vm.	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	there's no need for redhat to destroy debian with entryism to demonstrate issues in GNU/Linux.	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	yet they did exactly that.	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	oiaohm: upstart is a horrible mess, but it's still better than systemd	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	it abuses ptrace and signals	Oct 25 23:02
MinceR	but at least it doesn't rely on kernel features that don't even work yet	Oct 25 23:03
oiaohm	Remember only people who signed the CLA could have been working on it.	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	and it sticks to the role of the init system	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	that's canonical's problem, not mine	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	in theory, upstart is exactly as easy to replace as sysvinit is.	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	there's no upstart-timedated.	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	there's no upstart-hostnamed.	Oct 25 23:03
MinceR	there's no syslog replacement built into upstart, let alone a mandatory one.	Oct 25 23:04
MinceR	or one that does binary logging only.	Oct 25 23:04
MinceR	there's no web server built into upstart either.	Oct 25 23:04
MinceR	i hope you understand the difference.	Oct 25 23:04
MinceR	not that any of this matters anymore as far as canonical or upstart is concerned	Oct 25 23:05
MinceR	shuttlecock adopted systemd even though he realized it was shit because it would have taken a bit of work not to	Oct 25 23:06
MinceR	and canonical's in azure and in WSL and in the winblows store	Oct 25 23:06
MinceR	and they paid m$ to sign their bootloader	Oct 25 23:06
oiaohm	MinceR: upstart did not include loging but its ptrace was a very good way to make logging take more and more cpu time.	Oct 25 23:07
MinceR	yes, i said it abused ptrace	Oct 25 23:08
MinceR	ptrace is for debugging, not for an init system or service manager to find out about problems it has no way to fix	Oct 25 23:09
MinceR	(if your daemon is broken, then it will be broken, regardless of what your init system/service manager does or how hard it wishes it wasn't broken, as long as there's no strong AI built in there to actually go and fix the code)	Oct 25 23:09
oiaohm	MinceR: https://people.freedesktop.org/~david/xdg-hostname/ hostnamed and timedated predate systemd as independent projects with questionable security status.	Oct 25 23:12
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MinceR	so what?	Oct 25 23:12
MinceR	in what way does that enable me to run gnome or kde without systemd?	Oct 25 23:12
MinceR	(not to matter that even as independent projects, that's a horrifyingly stupid idea for an API)	Oct 25 23:13
MinceR	(yeah, i get it, the morons in charge of xdf/"free"desktop hate unix. they can go get fucked.)	Oct 25 23:13
oiaohm	That is the thing lot of stupidity in items like hostnamed and timedated is not like systemd went out and random-ally did it. They put it up on freedesktop got agreement from the different DE then implemented then left it not maintained.	Oct 25 23:15
MinceR	s/xdf/xdg/	Oct 25 23:16
MinceR	yeah, some other "free"desktop/xdg morons randomly did it instead	Oct 25 23:16
MinceR	what a difference	Oct 25 23:16
oiaohm	You found hostnamed first form on upstart systems before systemd.	Oct 25 23:16
MinceR	show how much trust the whole xdg/"free"desktop bullshit parade really is worthy of	Oct 25 23:17
MinceR	yet hostnamed wasn't part of upstart	Oct 25 23:17
oiaohm	and it was not maintained by anyone either.	Oct 25 23:17
oiaohm	So all these different fragments with no one taking responsibility for. Working on the stupid theory of if we build it they will come.	Oct 25 23:18
MinceR	if we build some broken pointless crap, they will came	Oct 25 23:19
MinceR	and surprisingly, eventually they did came	Oct 25 23:19
MinceR	and the broken pointless crap was called systemd	Oct 25 23:19
MinceR	to be fair, some people also love other broken bullshit like windows and macos...	Oct 25 23:19
oiaohm	It was funny watching the panic as systemd vacuumed up all the unmaintained stuff. As people starting going hey stuff will not work without that.	Oct 25 23:19
MinceR	some people just like to watch the world burn.	Oct 25 23:20
MinceR	and of course you can't see what's wrong with it	Oct 25 23:20
oiaohm	If it was so critical why was no one responsible for it maintenance.	Oct 25 23:20
MinceR	poettering didn't see it either, because he's not a software engineer	Oct 25 23:20
MinceR	regardless of how critical or maintained they are, putting them in the same module as unrelated stuff makes no sense	Oct 25 23:21
MinceR	there's no need for a single piece of software to do all these things	Oct 25 23:21
MinceR	there's no need for these functions to be inseparable.	Oct 25 23:21
oiaohm	so you don't agree with gnu coreutils idea.	Oct 25 23:21
MinceR	i don't know how interdependent those are	Oct 25 23:22
MinceR	i suspect not nearly so much	Oct 25 23:22
MinceR	they would be easier to maintain and keep secure if they did one thing, focused on doing it well, and had a small, well-defined interface	Oct 25 23:22
MinceR	instead of everything depending heavily on everything else	Oct 25 23:22
MinceR	also, it's a stupid idea to do so many damn things in pid1, as Linux doesn't like pid1 crashing very much	Oct 25 23:23
MinceR	plus obviously you can only have one pid1 on a host	Oct 25 23:23
MinceR	so if you have one "init system" doing everything doing function A that you need and another "init system" doing everything doing function B that you need, and you need both functions on the same machine, you're out of luck	Oct 25 23:24
oiaohm	MinceR https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils this is cringe worth.	Oct 25 23:25
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MinceR	well, true/false really is horribly ugly	Oct 25 23:25
oiaohm	MinceR: note the gl directory. That is not opengl and you would guess but the common shared staticly linked library	Oct 25 23:26
MinceR	that still isn't necessarily bad	Oct 25 23:26
MinceR	as long as it's really a library	Oct 25 23:27
MinceR	and it's well designed	Oct 25 23:27
oiaohm	Hmm	Oct 25 23:27
MinceR	(not a daemon, not the actual independent end functions all implemented in one place and just invoked from the individual utilities, etc.)	Oct 25 23:27
MinceR	and i'm pretty sure the resulting executables will function independently	Oct 25 23:29
MinceR	so for example i can have gnu coreutils dd and bsd du, or vice versa	Oct 25 23:30
MinceR	or even have both and use whichever one i want	Oct 25 23:30
MinceR	while with systemd, if you use systemd, you get nearly the whole deal, it sits in pid1, it forces journald on you, etc.	Oct 25 23:30
MinceR	and gnome and kde depend on shit like logind, hostnamed, timedated	Oct 25 23:31
MinceR	so you decide to use one thing and you get the whole hairball forced on you	Oct 25 23:31
oiaohm	That in fact incorrect. systemd-shim has been build-able from systemd source because a large number of systemd parts will work without the complete systemd.	Oct 25 23:31
MinceR	and how well can you separate systemd-shim's parts from each other?	Oct 25 23:32
MinceR	how much hacking does systemd-shim itself need in order to exist?	Oct 25 23:32
MinceR	how well will systemd-shim survive changes to the systemd codebase?	Oct 25 23:32
oiaohm	Over 80% of systemd is stand-lone programs.	Oct 25 23:32
MinceR	yeah, if you believe the *ctl commands that are useless without the daemon are "standalone programs"	Oct 25 23:33
oiaohm	Not ctl commands.	Oct 25 23:33
MinceR	ooh, i have 89 command line utilities that all do the same thing: complain that systemd isn't running!	Oct 25 23:33
MinceR	and even if systemd was modular, that doesn't justify it forcing journald on the user, for example	Oct 25 23:34
MinceR	journald is atrocious	Oct 25 23:34
oiaohm	Even most of the ctl commands don't depend on anything more shared library dbus and the deamon they control.	Oct 25 23:34
oiaohm	So PID1 bit of systemd does not have to be there for most of them.	Oct 25 23:35
MinceR	i wonder how well that holds up in practice	Oct 25 23:35
MinceR	and how much those daemons depend on each other	Oct 25 23:35
oiaohm	when embedded developers when through systemd to see how they can customise they found that there is very little dependancy with most of the time it being none between the deamons.	Oct 25 23:36
MinceR	(and even dbus itself is a shitty design, and so's kdbus. not sure about bus1, i haven't seen much of it)	Oct 25 23:36
MinceR	i don't see why embedded developers need such bloatware anyway	Oct 25 23:37
oiaohm	The biggest dependency of systemd parts is dbus.	Oct 25 23:37
MinceR	is it really a good idea to produce massive system logs with core dumps built into them on devices with limited disk space?	Oct 25 23:38
oiaohm	One of the thing that was shocking was a cut down systemd for embedded eats less ram than using busybox init.	Oct 25 23:38
oiaohm	and less disc space.	Oct 25 23:38
MinceR	slight disadvantage: it doesn't work	Oct 25 23:38
oiaohm	Neither works great	Oct 25 23:38
MinceR	didn't poettering claim that systemd can't retain information about daemons without journald?	Oct 25 23:39
MinceR	or was he lying when he said that, too?	Oct 25 23:39
oiaohm	embedded developers were shocked that systemd parts would fall back to syslog most of the time if journald was never provided.	Oct 25 23:39
MinceR	ah, so poettering lied to make people use journald, got it	Oct 25 23:39
MinceR	i wonder which corporation does this remind me of	Oct 25 23:40
MinceR	oh, right, microsoft.	Oct 25 23:40
oiaohm	Not 100 percent lie. Miss quote. Journald prevents applications from fibbing on the syslog. Ie posting message pretending to be something else.	Oct 25 23:41
MinceR	that would still be a lie	Oct 25 23:41
oiaohm	Poettering cliamed what journald provided. Others miss quoted and abused.	Oct 25 23:42
oiaohm	and it was poettering who put in the testsuite that the services of systemd had to work if journald failed or was not present.	Oct 25 23:43
oiaohm	and that was from day one.	Oct 25 23:43
MinceR	so, when will redhat stop the tricks forcing systemd on us?	Oct 25 23:44
oiaohm	Historically redhat stops that stuff when there is a good alternative.	Oct 25 23:45
MinceR	what's a good alternative for redhat?	Oct 25 23:46
MinceR	everyone just becoming a peon in the microsoft/redhat world empire?	Oct 25 23:46
MinceR	will then they finally butt out of our computers?	Oct 25 23:46
MinceR	seems unlikely	Oct 25 23:46
MinceR	seems to me control freaks never give up power	Oct 25 23:47
oiaohm	Remember redhat sells solutions. So if there is something that works better than what they are developing/pushing they are not past changing sides. They have done this many times.	Oct 25 23:48
MinceR	yes, apparently now the "solutions" they sell solve problems redhat had	Oct 25 23:49
oiaohm	Redhat is not a Microsoft. Like redhat would have never done what Microsoft did with Windows phone of signing exclusive deal to keep it alive instead of using the competitions solution.	Oct 25 23:49
MinceR	i only need redhat to do one thing now	Oct 25 23:49
MinceR	die.	Oct 25 23:49
MinceR	yes they are a microsoft	Oct 25 23:49
MinceR	or more accurately, they're now a microsoft front.	Oct 25 23:49
MinceR	see azure, wsl, uefi, systemd.	Oct 25 23:50
MinceR	they push the microsoft agenda in every way.	Oct 25 23:50
oiaohm	Azure is funny.	Oct 25 23:50
MinceR	azure is vile.	Oct 25 23:50
MinceR	also, i don't get people who decide to rely on that crap.	Oct 25 23:50
oiaohm	Go back to when Microsoft decide to do Azure and read the inforamtion. Cloud services for Windows.	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	it would be difficult to find a service provider that is less competent than microsoft	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	or less malicious	Oct 25 23:51
oiaohm	Its slowly turning into mostly Linux.	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	yeah, microsoft believes they own linux	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	redhat helps them with that claim	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	so does canonical	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	so did novell	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	and now they're also in the Linux-Destroying Foundation.	Oct 25 23:51
MinceR	apparently having an LFN on FAT implementation (which was publicly described by Linus before m$ had one) in a piece of software means microsoft owns that piece of software.	Oct 25 23:52
oiaohm	Old saying keep you friends close your enemies closer.	Oct 25 23:53
MinceR	no, thank you.	Oct 25 23:54
MinceR	actively helping "enemies" is way too close.	Oct 25 23:54
oiaohm	Reality here Microsoft has more money than redhat that it can spend on legal battles.	Oct 25 23:54
MinceR	s/less malicious/more malicious/	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	too late for me	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	i don't care how much money redhat has	Oct 25 23:55
oiaohm	But if redhat appears a friend to Microsoft and Microsoft attacks them that will harm their partner network.	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	if they act to harm me, then they're an enemy of mine.	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	it's really that simple.	Oct 25 23:55
oiaohm	So its more self protection.	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	m$ has backstabbed their "partner"s before	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	good for redhat	Oct 25 23:55
MinceR	i still don't see why _i_ should support these criminals.	Oct 25 23:56
oiaohm	Redhat has contract backstabbed Microsoft many times.	Oct 25 23:56
MinceR	again, i don't care	Oct 25 23:56
MinceR	see above.	Oct 25 23:56
oiaohm	Redhat is one of the few companies that has been able to-do it to Microsoft more than once.	Oct 25 23:56
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MinceR	maybe this arrangement is good for redhat, but it's definitely bad for free software and for me.	Oct 26 00:02
MinceR	so i hope they fail and rot in hell.	Oct 26 00:02
oiaohm	Really developers have to be paid to maintain code.	Oct 26 00:05
oiaohm	Redhat is not exactly picky how they get the money.	Oct 26 00:05
MinceR	no, not really	Oct 26 00:06
MinceR	in fact, from what i can see, software projects that are operated for profit tend to have atrocious quality.	Oct 26 00:06
oiaohm	Depends.	Oct 26 00:07
MinceR	features nobody needs and bling are prioritized, bugs and especially design flaws never get fixed (because it's not sexy and it doesn't show up on the brochure)	Oct 26 00:07
oiaohm	quality of software is linked to where the investment is.	Oct 26 00:08
MinceR	(also, refactoring and redesign never happens because it takes up a lot of time without any more of those precious unnecessary features and bling)	Oct 26 00:08
MinceR	apparently redhat's investment is in selling out the free software community to microsoft.	Oct 26 00:08
oiaohm	Like running continuous integration testing is not free.	Oct 26 00:08
MinceR	i wonder if it's even worth the trouble.	Oct 26 00:09
MinceR	you could just run the test suite locally before committing.	Oct 26 00:09
oiaohm	How well do you trust developers.	Oct 26 00:09
MinceR	and not have to write thousands of lines of code to make jenkins do the right thing for you.	Oct 26 00:09
oiaohm	History says developers are lazy and careless.	Oct 26 00:10
MinceR	(or tens of thousands if you're using some crap like ElectricCommander which doesn't do anything, ever)	Oct 26 00:10
oiaohm	when it comes to testing.	Oct 26 00:10
MinceR	such developers will remain useless	Oct 26 00:10
oiaohm	Hey I did a patch that fixes my problem submit it and then everyone suffers.	Oct 26 00:10
MinceR	no automatization will change that until we have strong AI	Oct 26 00:10
MinceR	and then your patch is reverted and you get to find a job at microsoft.	Oct 26 00:11
oiaohm	Its like the last year of intel setting up continuous integration for graphics. Result is over 8000 suspend issues fixed.	Oct 26 00:11
MinceR	(because they obviously don't mind that)	Oct 26 00:11
oiaohm	With a 1000 of those in the last 12 months from new commits.	Oct 26 00:11
MinceR	how can they show it's because of CI?	Oct 26 00:12
oiaohm	Yes because of CI. That a new patch to linux next and the drm tree and linus tree automatically gets run in intel CI.	Oct 26 00:13
MinceR	well, that's nice	Oct 26 00:13
oiaohm	Across a selection of intel hardware covering from 2004 to current.	Oct 26 00:13
oiaohm	Some of those issue only show up on X generation of hardware.	Oct 26 00:13
oiaohm	that the developer who made the patch did not have.	Oct 26 00:14
oiaohm	made the defective patch.	Oct 26 00:14
oiaohm	Basically developers running testsuite: 1) they don't always do it. 2) they sometime submit the wrong patch number(human error) so send the defective path instead of the one they tested as working. 3) sometimes they don't have the hardware to see the fault.	Oct 26 00:15
MinceR	good point on the different hw thing	Oct 26 00:16
MinceR	but in that case, CI is probably cheaper than other means of testing every patch on every hw version	Oct 26 00:18
oiaohm	Please note all 3 points are covered by setting continuous integration testing up. Yes it cost time to-do but long term it saves time by catching more problems early before other stuff depends on broken as well.	Oct 26 00:18
MinceR	since it replaces human work with computer work	Oct 26 00:18
oiaohm	Remember running a full intel testsuite on graphics at this stage per machine is kiss good bye to 8-12 hours.	Oct 26 00:20
oiaohm	this is part of the reason why developer have bad habit of skipping running test suites.	Oct 26 00:20
oiaohm	MinceR: long boring tasks like running test suites is safer trusted to machines. Than humans who suffer from lack of will to wait or at times ability to wait due to other human commitments.	Oct 26 00:24
MinceR	also helps with forgetfulness	Oct 26 00:28
oiaohm	There is a 4 reason. In the first 3 weeks of intel running the test suite themselves they had to make a system reimaging solution.	Oct 26 00:36
oiaohm	Why because due to memory issues with the video card drives the result was nuked installs. So yes developers had not been running the test suite a lot or there should have some major complaints about by by harddrive.	Oct 26 00:37
oiaohm	MinceR: so yes the intel ones is really good example of how much you should trust developers to run testsuites and how running testsuites on personal hardware could be deadly.	Oct 26 00:38
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ctpsPuj56s (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923354028339335168	Oct 26 02:03
TweetTuxMachines	7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver	Oct 26 02:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IyVxI7SxNf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923354304664260609	Oct 26 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint Will Discontinue Its KDE Edition	Oct 26 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qDQ7PBtCdx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923354650648211456	Oct 26 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source Virtual Signaling? Or, Why Do You Really Like	Oct 26 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	Open Source? https://t.co/AzEpbGbWOd	Oct 26 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923358507725881347	Oct 26 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	ASUS PRIME Z370-A Running Great On Linux	Oct 26 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/U9qLFjUAf5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:20
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XRevan86	Sudden question: does the US have an anti-monopoly committee?	Oct 26 02:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923358686524960768	Oct 26 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS Desktop Environment Released with	Oct 26 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	Various Improvements https://t.co/hR4szNQtQX	Oct 26 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:23
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS Desktop Environment Released with Various Improvements \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923359299153342464	Oct 26 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board Projects	Oct 26 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8I99corjU6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:25
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board Projects \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923359728213864448	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	RadeonSI/RADV Mesa 17.3 + AMDGPU DC vs. NVIDIA 387.12	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Gaming Performance https://t.co/4KLqSH9RTb	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| RadeonSI/RADV Mesa 17.3 + AMDGPU DC vs. NVIDIA 387.12 Linux Gaming Performance \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923360137099784192	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/xjBHqYKL8H	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:26
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:26
*TweetTuxMachines @LouLasher favourited 'Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board...'		Oct 26 02:28
*TweetTuxMachines @fcassia favourited 'Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board...'		Oct 26 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923361694465785856	Oct 26 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver	Oct 26 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/IyVxI7SxNf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:32
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:32
*TweetTuxMachines @jurylady5 retweeted @tuxmachines: '7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver https://t.co/IyVxI7SxNf'		Oct 26 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923362675953946625	Oct 26 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Mint Will Discontinue Its KDE Edition	Oct 26 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/qDQ7PBtCdx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:38
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint Will Discontinue Its KDE Edition \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923363172236611584	Oct 26 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Open Source Virtual Signaling? Or, Why Do You Really Like	Oct 26 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Open Source? https://t.co/AzEpbGbWOd	Oct 26 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:39
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TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:39
*TweetTuxMachines @lproven favourited 'Ubuntu: Shuttleworth Speaks Out, Ubuntu 17.10 Plans, Xubuntu...'		Oct 26 02:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923364080118845441	Oct 26 02:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by ASUS PRIME Z370-A Running Great On Linux	Oct 26 02:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/U9qLFjUAf5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923364477097082881	Oct 26 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS Desktop Environment Released with	Oct 26 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Various Improvements https://t.co/hR4szNQtQX	Oct 26 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS Desktop Environment Released with Various Improvements \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923366714238210049	Oct 26 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board Projects	Oct 26 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/8I99corjU6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923367220889243648	Oct 26 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	#CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out!	Oct 26 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DScbS1GBwf (www.tuxmachines.org) #italy #gnu	Oct 26 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #forensics	Oct 26 02:55
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out! \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923367306998308864	Oct 26 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by RadeonSI/RADV Mesa 17.3 + AMDGPU DC vs. NVIDIA 387.12	Oct 26 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Linux Gaming Performance https://t.co/4KLqSH9RTb	Oct 26 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923368028775092224	Oct 26 02:59
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android Leftovers https://t.co/xjBHqYKL8H	Oct 26 02:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 02:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923368433969979392	Oct 26 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out!	Oct 26 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/DScbS1GBwf (www.tuxmachines.org) #italy #gnu	Oct 26 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #forensics	Oct 26 03:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923371211769475072	Oct 26 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	Slackware: #Netsurf and #Plasma5	Oct 26 03:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mQR2pkpWYD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 03:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/moniquedhooghe/status/923372776391675904	Oct 26 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board Projects	Oct 26 03:20
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DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SUSE-Kernel-Bootsplash	Oct 26 03:37
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: I know it will make bootup seam faster.	Oct 26 03:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: if it a good idea is another question.	Oct 26 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/923373661565935616	Oct 26 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE Plasma 5.11 Desktop,	Oct 26 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux Latest KDE Apps & Frameworks https://t.co/gtcCwq4zu7	Oct 26 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923395705380667392	Oct 26 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Security Standards, New Windows Malware,	Oct 26 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	Flexera FUD, Microsoft’s Sonar	Oct 26 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rbJGGposYf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:50
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Security Standards, New Windows Malware, Flexera FUD, Microsoft’s Sonar \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923396271674716160	Oct 26 04:54
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Eclipse, Java, Android Studio and More	Oct 26 04:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3XQg2HvEvK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:54
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 04:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923397341222244352	Oct 26 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 26 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JbusdoipSa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923397824469000192	Oct 26 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu and Linux Mint	Oct 26 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k8YgotOEVK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 04:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923398427186225152	Oct 26 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE and Red Hat News	Oct 26 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4Tr8t1jxHy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:00
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 26 05:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923398974547152896	Oct 26 05:03
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Oct 26 05:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ifepjcOcui (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923399723876323329	Oct 26 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	Software: YakYak, SentinelOne, GStreamer, Chrome, SQLite	Oct 26 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q4mJyKnIVv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923400065057730561	Oct 26 05:06
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Oct 26 05:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EizSkX9HQQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923400355580403713	Oct 26 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel and @LinuxFoundation	Oct 26 05:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/veYvWoSicK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923400742773383168	Oct 26 05:11
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 26 05:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/B6eezdmL54 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923401632213237760	Oct 26 05:14
TweetTuxMachines	Links 25/10/2017: New Linux Report, Qt 5.10 Beta 2, CAINE	Oct 26 05:14
TweetTuxMachines	9.0 https://t.co/fgGkKwd4U1 (techrights.org)	Oct 26 05:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923402347849580544	Oct 26 05:16
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Security Standards, New Windows Malware,	Oct 26 05:16
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Flexera FUD, Microsoft’s Sonar	Oct 26 05:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rbJGGposYf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923403044016017408	Oct 26 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Eclipse, Java, Android Studio and More	Oct 26 05:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/3XQg2HvEvK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923404392690257920	Oct 26 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Oct 26 05:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/JbusdoipSa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923409550425731072	Oct 26 05:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu and Linux Mint	Oct 26 05:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/k8YgotOEVK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 05:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu and Linux Mint https://t.co/k8YgotOEVK...'		Oct 26 05:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923411452140146688	Oct 26 06:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games Leftovers	Oct 26 06:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/EizSkX9HQQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 06:39
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MinceR	https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av79z4X_460sv.mp4	Oct 26 07:35
*TweetTuxMachines @EclipseJavaIDE favourited 'Programming: Eclipse, Java, Android Studio and More ...'		Oct 26 07:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923438115976634368	Oct 26 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by SUSE and Red Hat News	Oct 26 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/4Tr8t1jxHy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 07:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923438456616996864	Oct 26 07:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Oct 26 07:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/ifepjcOcui (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 07:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923439775381639168	Oct 26 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Software: YakYak, SentinelOne, GStreamer, Chrome, SQLite	Oct 26 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/q4mJyKnIVv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 07:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923442882870116354	Oct 26 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kernel and @LinuxFoundation	Oct 26 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/veYvWoSicK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923446020733841408	Oct 26 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's leftovers	Oct 26 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/B6eezdmL54 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 08:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923448981832814592	Oct 26 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 25/10/2017: New Linux Report, Qt 5.10 Beta 2, CAINE	Oct 26 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 9.0 https://t.co/fgGkKwd4U1 (techrights.org)	Oct 26 09:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923512223473037312	Oct 26 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	IPO for Ubuntu's Parent Company Canonical is Being	Oct 26 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	Planned https://t.co/EECZEQqeeg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923512587958046723	Oct 26 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	I No Longer Hate Microsoft https://t.co/6kBLVpEUlb	Oct 26 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:36
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MinceR	how much did that cost?	Oct 26 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923513500223393794	Oct 26 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	Oracle ZFS man calls for Big Red to let filesystem	Oct 26 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	upstream into Linux https://t.co/pWX0u1oqFZ	Oct 26 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923514102596726785	Oct 26 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	Who Contributes To Linux Kernel? How Has Its Development	Oct 26 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	Evolved In Past 26 Years? https://t.co/HWH5PG2rIy	Oct 26 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923517864681885696	Oct 26 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	Why is Kubernetes so popular? https://t.co/EtEr3EFemB	Oct 26 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923517929253154816	Oct 26 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/KltTdeuPOA	Oct 26 12:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@tuxmachines @glynmoody Fitting that a reheated five-months-old news...'		Oct 26 12:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/KltTdeuPOA'		Oct 26 12:57
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why is Kubernetes so popular? https://t.co/EtEr3EFemB'		Oct 26 13:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923520102011727872	Oct 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Who Contributes To Linux Kernel? How Has Its Development	Oct 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Evolved In Past 26 Years? https://t.co/HWH5PG2rIy	Oct 26 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 13:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923520745132740608	Oct 26 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Oracle ZFS man calls for Big Red to let filesystem	Oct 26 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz upstream into Linux https://t.co/pWX0u1oqFZ	Oct 26 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 13:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@csolisr https://twitter.com/csolisr/status/923521667296620545	Oct 26 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @schestowitz The problem is, either #ZFS	Oct 26 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	dual-licenses into something compatible with the #GPL, or	Oct 26 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	the #Linux kernel is relicensed. (twitter.com)	Oct 26 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923521908829769729	Oct 26 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by I No Longer Hate Microsoft https://t.co/6kBLVpEUlb	Oct 26 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 13:16
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cubexyz	well, merely hating microsoft isn't enough	Oct 26 13:28
cubexyz	you have to take action	Oct 26 13:28
MinceR	indeed	Oct 26 13:31
cubexyz	there's a lot of really picky stuff you have to learn to get coreboot working on certain hardware	Oct 26 13:31
cubexyz	warming booting, keyboard speeds, ISA setup, pci setup...	Oct 26 13:32
cubexyz	warm booting... I still have to hard boot on one motherboard	Oct 26 13:33
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/KmeeX	Oct 26 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923524045055938560	Oct 26 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by IPO for Ubuntu's Parent Company Canonical is Being	Oct 26 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Planned https://t.co/EECZEQqeeg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 13:50
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cubexyz	it is a big pain to put coreboot on thinkpad X230 for example	Oct 26 13:51
cubexyz	first you have to tear down the X230...	Oct 26 13:51
cubexyz	then desolder the BIOS chip	Oct 26 13:51
cubexyz	then you have to build the coreboot image and flash it	Oct 26 13:52
cubexyz	minifree.org will sell you a Libreboot T400	Oct 26 14:06
cubexyz	so for 300 Euro you can get a T400 with libreboot	Oct 26 14:08
cubexyz	or just buy a chromebook...	Oct 26 14:09
cubexyz	on the chromebook suspend works, all the function keys work, wifi works, and google does a pretty good job of maintaining chromeos	Oct 26 14:11
MinceR	if only they sold the samsung chromebook pro here	Oct 26 14:12
MinceR	or even the asus flip 2	Oct 26 14:12
cubexyz	samsung chromebook pro looks nice	Oct 26 14:14
MinceR	more importantly, it's light and passively cooled	Oct 26 14:14
MinceR	and afaik it can boot from a microsd card if it's set up properly	Oct 26 14:15
MinceR	(developer mode and press the right hotkey on boot or something)	Oct 26 14:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@technologytales https://twitter.com/technologytales/status/923532382518554625	Oct 26 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	The latest Technology Tales Daily!	Oct 26 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DaykZT4iNx (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines	Oct 26 14:21
TweetTuxMachines	# #iot	Oct 26 14:21
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MinceR	both chromebooks are also supposed to work as tablets with the keyboard folded back	Oct 26 14:21
MinceR	but i don't know how practical this would be with a 1kg+ unit with a 12+" display	Oct 26 14:22
cubexyz	that one might even run android apps	Oct 26 14:24
MinceR	afaik they do	Oct 26 14:27
MinceR	though chrome os may need to be switched to some more bleeding-edge channel to get that feature, not sure	Oct 26 14:28
MinceR	or one could just run their own os and run android in a virtualizer	Oct 26 14:28
MinceR	maybe desktop chrom{e,ium} also runs android apps currently	Oct 26 14:28
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/HJxyZ	Oct 26 14:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@technologytales https://twitter.com/IoTimelab/status/923540107948421121	Oct 26 16:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The latest Technology Tales Daily!	Oct 26 16:03
TweetTuxMachines	@IoTimelab https://t.co/DaykZT4iNx (paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines	Oct 26 16:03
TweetTuxMachines	# #iot	Oct 26 16:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923565808860704769	Oct 26 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	Google Pixelbook review: Prepared today for the possible	Oct 26 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	reality of tomorrow https://t.co/F5f8Kj2tm8	Oct 26 16:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 16:04
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/VOnAC	Oct 26 16:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923565914041315330	Oct 26 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Google Pixelbook review: Prepared today for the possible	Oct 26 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz reality of tomorrow https://t.co/F5f8Kj2tm8	Oct 26 16:39
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/V6Vyx	Oct 26 17:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923586317799313409	Oct 26 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Microsoft Windows TCO (Bad Rabbit),	Oct 26 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Back Doors, Honeypot, Security by Obscurity	Oct 26 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Wv3haiEXEI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923586773665701888	Oct 26 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Oct 26 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4N87y9wQAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923587219021094912	Oct 26 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	Software: Nightingale, Crello, Lightworks	Oct 26 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/863AkmlnCU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923587725936287744	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME: Ubuntu, Jabra, GTK	Oct 26 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/liuQTOOYRy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923588219735769090	Oct 26 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	Events: Latinoware 2017, FOSDEM 2018, Open Source Summit	Oct 26 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NLIKkij4G6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Events: Latinoware 2017, FOSDEM 2018, Open Source Summit \| Tux Machines		Oct 26 17:33
*TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix favourited 'Events: Latinoware 2017, FOSDEM 2018, Open Source Summit...'		Oct 26 17:33
*TweetTuxMachines @fth_nix retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Events: Latinoware 2017, FOSDEM 2018, Open Source Summit...'		Oct 26 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923589945759096832	Oct 26 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel/Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA and AMD	Oct 26 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UZqeLHSbpl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923590395690397697	Oct 26 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Comments, SciPy 1.0, and Android 8.1 O	Oct 26 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Developer Preview	Oct 26 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xsJiwsqAf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923590794619113472	Oct 26 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	Android: Pixel 2 Issues, 10 Best Android Photo Editor	Oct 26 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	Apps	Oct 26 17:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Hn67kiQUND (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923591087075287040	Oct 26 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Games Leftovers	Oct 26 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BTjrxf1ShG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923591378843635712	Oct 26 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat News	Oct 26 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NEM27nOPFT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923591711179370496	Oct 26 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Comments, SciPy 1.0, and Android 8.1 O	Oct 26 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Developer Preview	Oct 26 18:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923595437835210752	Oct 26 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Red Hat News	Oct 26 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/NEM27nOPFT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 18:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923596056910336001	Oct 26 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games Leftovers	Oct 26 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/BTjrxf1ShG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 18:07
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DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-PMEMFILE	Oct 26 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Has Been Working On A New User-Space File-System For Persistent Memory - Phoronix		Oct 26 18:10
DaemonFC	"While FUSE for file-systems in user-space tends to be controversial like Linus Torvalds believing it's for toys and misguided people"	Oct 26 18:10
DaemonFC	It allows file systems that can't be safely included in Linux for legal reasons to be easily installed by the user and then they don't have to worry about whether it will keep working as new kernels come out. shrug	Oct 26 18:11
*TweetTuxMachines @massimozanchi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games Leftovers https://t.co/BTjrxf1ShG...'		Oct 26 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923598640727449602	Oct 26 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Android: Pixel 2 Issues, 10 Best Android Photo Editor	Oct 26 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Apps	Oct 26 18:20
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTYwMA Nothing like a miss quote.	Oct 26 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Torvalds: User-Space File-Systems, Toys, Misguided People - Phoronix		Oct 26 18:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Linus thinks all user-space file systems are toys for misguided people be them done by Fuse or other means.	Oct 26 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923600135271211012	Oct 26 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Comments, SciPy 1.0, and Android 8.1 O	Oct 26 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Developer Preview	Oct 26 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xsJiwsqAf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 18:32
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: and I kind of agree particularly when you read that write up on the PMEMFILE system and the number of limitations it has. Might be faster than FUSE but is lacking so much safety it not funny.	Oct 26 18:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923603076380012545	Oct 26 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kernel/Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA and AMD	Oct 26 18:35
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DaemonFC	oiaohm, I don't see what the benefit of moving a file system meant for SD cards and thumb drives into the kernel. (exfat)	Oct 26 18:37
DaemonFC	*would be	Oct 26 18:37
DaemonFC	I mean, it would open people up to a lawsuit from Microsoft. What else?	Oct 26 18:38
DaemonFC	The FUSE driver is one of those things that people don't like, but it makes it easier to get away from Windows. I mean, what do most people do if their device only works with Windows?	Oct 26 18:38
oiaohm	DaemonFC: fuse provides at least some level of sanity. The PMEMFILE stuff is about pure speed with safety and they compare against ext4 that is not the faster Linux file system on solid state storage.	Oct 26 18:40
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Microsoft has already attacked over exfat https://www.computerworlduk.com/it-vendors/android-gets-sdxc-flash-driver-microsoft-gets-royalties-3389/ device vendors already have the problem of having to pay Microsoft be it fuse or not.	Oct 26 18:41
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx this has made Microsoft over 1 billion dollars.	Oct 26 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Licensing exFAT \| Microsoft IP Licensing		Oct 26 18:47
oiaohm	DaemonFC: legally it fairly much makes bugger all difference if exfat is a kernel mode driver or usermode driver. Also microsoft will sell patent licenses to those using open source implementations. In kernel space the closed vendors have achieved higher performance.	Oct 26 18:53
DaemonFC	oiaohm, I meant for people who want to use it in Linux as an end user.	Oct 26 18:54
DaemonFC	If the distributions shipped it, they'd have to pay royalties too.	Oct 26 18:54
DaemonFC	Install it yourself and you don't.	Oct 26 18:55
oiaohm	DaemonFC: you are forgotting Dynamic Kernel Module Support (DKMS)	Oct 26 18:55
oiaohm	So a kernel mode driver can be shipped as source and built to match what ever kernel the user has and be outside the main kernel tree.	Oct 26 18:55
DaemonFC	Yeah, but then the driver has to be updated for kernel changes.	Oct 26 18:55
DaemonFC	Out of tree drivers don't necessarily work with the latest kernel.	Oct 26 18:56
oiaohm	That is the only advantage to fuse.	Oct 26 18:56
oiaohm	most out of tree file systems are lacking CI testing.	Oct 26 18:56
oiaohm	So that is a issue with their development process.	Oct 26 18:56
oiaohm	In fact most out of tree drivers.	Oct 26 18:57
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Its like intel over the last year just set up proper Continuous-integration(CI) testing for the in kernel graphics driver. In the process they discovered many bugs that would in fact nuke the file system of a operating system.	Oct 26 19:00
oiaohm	DaemonFC: so the reality is in kernel tree drivers without Continuous-integration(CI) testing are more likely to run but lacking that testing means they can nuke your install. In tree or out of tree same thing is require or end user suffer.	Oct 26 19:01
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: what was the last line you saw.	Oct 26 19:05
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Its like intel over the last year just set up proper Continuous-integration(CI) testing for the in kernel graphics driver. In the process they discovered many bugs that would in fact nuke the file system of the operating system.	Oct 26 19:07
oiaohm	DaemonFC: so the reality is in kernel tree drivers without Continuous-integration(CI) testing are more likely to run but lacking that testing means they can nuke your install. In tree or out of tree same thing is require or end user suffer.	Oct 26 19:07
DaemonFC	Yeah, I saw that. Sorry. Reboot for updates.	Oct 26 19:08
oiaohm	No problems.	Oct 26 19:10
oiaohm	Even a fuse file system can fail due to fuse changes. But the changes are less often. So again lack of Continuous-integration(CI) is going to hurt end user at some point.	Oct 26 19:11
DaemonFC	Keeping an eye on the street outside.	Oct 26 19:33
DaemonFC	The sweeping is over with but they can still ticket you if you park there before 2 PM.	Oct 26 19:33
DaemonFC	If you don't get a spot before tomorrow, you get ticketed when the other side gets cleaned.	Oct 26 19:33
DaemonFC	It's a big scam.	Oct 26 19:33
DaemonFC	I've never gotten one yet, but I've seen cops floating around the neighborhood writing tickets long after the street sweeper is gone.	Oct 26 19:36
DaemonFC	The city wants money. They'll get it from you one way or the other.	Oct 26 19:37
DaemonFC	The stupid thing is that this is the last street sweeping for the year even though half the leaves haven't fallen off the trees yet, so there will just be another big mess in the next couple of weeks.	Oct 26 19:38
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schestowitz	[18:47] <oiaohm> DaemonFC: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx this has made Microsoft over 1 billion dollars.	Oct 26 19:53
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schestowitz	where does this figure come from?	Oct 26 19:53
oiaohm	schestowitz: lost the link. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/11/01/microsoft-android-patent-income/#49095b105c6c this was the collected patent money grab in 2015 so for all patent actions then it was 6 billion+ dollars.	Oct 26 19:55
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oiaohm	schestowitz: I had more modern breakdown list.	Oct 26 19:55
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Well, I use exFAT on some SD cards. Not like there's an easy way around it. FAT32 is very old and doesn't scale well.	Oct 26 20:03
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DaemonFC	Besides, FAT32 over 32 GB is undefined on SD devices.	Oct 26 20:03
DaemonFC	Some work. Some don't. Some could corrupt your data.	Oct 26 20:03
DaemonFC	exFAT is officially undocumented, but Samsung licensed it and released an Android driver under the GPL using documentation from Microsoft, but that wouldn't protect you because it's Microsoft that has the patents, not Samsung.	Oct 26 20:06
DaemonFC	bbiab...I moved the car. Now to go find something for lunch.	Oct 26 20:06
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oiaohm	schestowitz: the known patents on exfat last one expires in 2027. So 10 more year of patent claims.	Oct 26 20:13
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schestowitz	oiaohm: it's not about exfat	Oct 26 21:44
schestowitz	and these figures are speculated	Oct 26 21:45
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DaemonFC	Fedora 27 isn't even out yet and the patchset against systemd 234 is now 101 patches.	Oct 26 22:20
DaemonFC	:)	Oct 26 22:20
DaemonFC	Instead of just upgrading to the latest systemd they backport bug fixes and entire features.	Oct 26 22:21
DaemonFC	So it becomes a chimera of several different versions.	Oct 26 22:21
DaemonFC	Man, they did a terrible job sweeping the street today.	Oct 26 22:23
DaemonFC	Left behind all sorts of crap.	Oct 26 22:23
DaemonFC	They should make two passes, really.	Oct 26 22:23
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: ?? 101 patches against systemd 234 debian testing I am sitting on is running 235 systemd.	Oct 26 23:56
oiaohm	DaemonFC: sometimes what the heck are fedora maintainers thinking.	Oct 26 23:56
oiaohm	http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-russia-mcafee/mcafee-says-it-no-longer-will-permit-government-source-code-reviews-idUSKBN1CV2MP Hmm this could put more pressure on governments to directly support open source.	Oct 26 23:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/B6eezdmL54 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696267217080320	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/q4mJyKnIVv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696279686864896	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/4Tr8t1jxHy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696294027079680	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu and Linux Mint	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/k8YgotOEVK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696313362915328	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/JbusdoipSa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696323907354624	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Eclipse, Java, Android Studio and More	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/3XQg2HvEvK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696335508856832	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Security Standards, New Windows Malware,	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Flexera FUD, Microsoft’s Sonar	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rbJGGposYf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696354404089857	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Slackware: #Netsurf and #Plasma5	Oct 27 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/mQR2pkpWYD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696367700078593	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out!	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/DScbS1GBwf (www.tuxmachines.org) #italy #gnu	Oct 27 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	#linux #forensics	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696404425351168	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Laptops Get a Boost from Hacker Board Projects	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/8I99corjU6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @threatintelbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Security Standards, New Windows Malware, Flexera FUD,...'		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696426349084673	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS Desktop Environment Released with	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Various Improvements https://t.co/hR4szNQtQX	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696441469497344	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by ASUS PRIME Z370-A Running Great On Linux	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/U9qLFjUAf5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ASUS PRIME Z370-A Running Great On Linux \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696450092933121	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Open Source Virtual Signaling? Or, Why Do You Really Like	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Open Source? https://t.co/AzEpbGbWOd	Oct 27 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Virtual Signaling? Or, Why Do You Really Like Open Source? \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696462591967233	Oct 27 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Mint Will Discontinue Its KDE Edition	Oct 27 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/qDQ7PBtCdx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/923696476525490182	Oct 27 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver	Oct 27 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/IyVxI7SxNf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 open source alternatives to Dreamweaver \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:47
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/923697565123543040	Oct 27 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out!	Oct 27 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@Pros_P33 https://t.co/DScbS1GBwf (www.tuxmachines.org) #italy #gnu	Oct 27 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" is out! \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #forensics	Oct 27 00:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/slackolinux/status/923721652868804608	Oct 27 03:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Slackware: #Netsurf and #Plasma5	Oct 27 03:06
TweetTuxMachines	@slackolinux https://t.co/mQR2pkpWYD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923755114829107200	Oct 27 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	On End of Linux Mint KDE Edition	Oct 27 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LHY2NkkuaA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 04:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923755519243931654	Oct 27 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by On End of Linux Mint KDE Edition	Oct 27 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LHY2NkkuaA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 04:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923760569555079169	Oct 27 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	AMD EPYC 7551 Linux Benchmarks	Oct 27 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n5O6uWSj7A (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 04:58
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 04:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923763068131266560	Oct 27 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: Ubuntu 17.10 Review, Ubuntu Core, Security and	Oct 27 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	MAAS	Oct 27 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/brEEclqAwT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu: Ubuntu 17.10 Review, Ubuntu Core, Security and MAAS \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@yawnbox https://twitter.com/yawnbox/status/923763503986442240	Oct 27 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cool https	Oct 27 05:09
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 05:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: Ubuntu 17.10 Review, Ubuntu Core, Security and...'		Oct 27 05:09
*TweetTuxMachines @Fonx favourited 'Ubuntu: Ubuntu 17.10 Review, Ubuntu Core, Security and...'		Oct 27 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@HelwaniNose https://twitter.com/HelwaniNose/status/923765526614171648	Oct 27 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @schestowitz Just effing wonderful, now I	Oct 27 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	have 2 reinstall all copies I put on friend-families	Oct 27 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	computer. Luckily I know better & put it on less than	Oct 27 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	half	Oct 27 05:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pyrokitteh/status/923767833523302402	Oct 27 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by AMD EPYC 7551 Linux Benchmarks	Oct 27 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	@Pyrokitteh https://t.co/n5O6uWSj7A (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 06:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Rick4312/status/923805411249139712	Oct 27 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with Linux	Oct 27 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@Rick4312 Kernel 4.15, GNOME 3.28 https://t.co/zAmqJJzOc2	Oct 27 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923810904193556480	Oct 27 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Oct 27 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YHCtHcndsF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923812310073905152	Oct 27 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Reaper, Bad Rabbit, Kaspersky, CAPTCHA	Oct 27 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	Weaknesses	Oct 27 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xEV3k45prZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:25
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Reaper, Bad Rabbit, Kaspersky, CAPTCHA Weaknesses \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923812731811237888	Oct 27 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	Another Dead Microsoft Product	Oct 27 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FSBXgXfWBd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:30
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Another Dead Microsoft Product \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923814069567619077	Oct 27 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	Events: Chrome Dev Summit, GSoC Mentor Summit, Google	Oct 27 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	Code-in, Samsung's 'Open Source Conference’, Raleigh's	Oct 27 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	ATO	Oct 27 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sdYD3i9Da0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:32
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923814547357687808	Oct 27 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 27 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/TlouuoFAyY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:37
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923815900553404416	Oct 27 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux kernel development shows no sign of slowing	Oct 27 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aMfx4TiBjX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:39
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux kernel development shows no sign of slowing \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923816425365622784	Oct 27 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	Servers: PaaS, Containers, SUSE, and Fedora	Oct 27 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7CuNXVIywt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:40
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Servers: PaaS, Containers, SUSE, and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923816862814822400	Oct 27 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 27 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0y0E33ZM2W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 08:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923817603734429697	Oct 27 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	Links 27/10/2017: Kinect’ Is Dead, SciPy Reaches 1.0	Oct 27 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5ZDWvV5NWT (techrights.org)	Oct 27 08:56
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923820666180325377	Oct 27 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Oct 27 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/YHCtHcndsF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923821729981624321	Oct 27 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Reaper, Bad Rabbit, Kaspersky, CAPTCHA	Oct 27 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Weaknesses	Oct 27 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xEV3k45prZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Reaper, Bad Rabbit, Kaspersky, CAPTCHA Weaknesses \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 09:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923823074964918272	Oct 27 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Another Dead Microsoft Product	Oct 27 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/FSBXgXfWBd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Another Dead Microsoft Product \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 09:12
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923824636118355968	Oct 27 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Events: Chrome Dev Summit, GSoC Mentor Summit, Google	Oct 27 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Code-in, Samsung's 'Open Source Conference’, Raleigh's	Oct 27 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	ATO	Oct 27 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sdYD3i9Da0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923829422410620929	Oct 27 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Oct 27 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/TlouuoFAyY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @ZoZ_Youtube favourited '#Ubuntu, #Debian, #Fedora and #elementaryOS All Patched Against...'		Oct 27 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923833301261012993	Oct 27 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux kernel development shows no sign of slowing	Oct 27 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/aMfx4TiBjX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @techloop_io favourited '#RedHat and Servers: #India, #China, #Docker and #Kubernetes...'		Oct 27 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923835799061389313	Oct 27 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers: PaaS, Containers, SUSE, and Fedora	Oct 27 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/7CuNXVIywt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923836813474660357	Oct 27 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's leftovers	Oct 27 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/0y0E33ZM2W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/923837346142879744	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with Linux	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux Kernel 4.15, GNOME 3.28 https://t.co/zAmqJJzOc2	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923837833122664448	Oct 27 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 27/10/2017: Kinect’ Is Dead, SciPy Reaches 1.0	Oct 27 10:28
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MinceR	https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-black-cat-day-october-27/	Oct 27 11:41
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/z4pOY	Oct 27 12:53
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XRevan86	MinceR: Steins;Gate, heh.	Oct 27 12:55
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/IgwBtka.png	Oct 27 12:55
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/7RP7CdA.gifv	Oct 27 12:56
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XRevan86	I heard an opinion that Dr. Pepper tastes like medicine.	Oct 27 12:59
MinceR	i haven't encountered medicine that tasted as good	Oct 27 12:59
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MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aZg2Wd9	Oct 27 14:30
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XRevan86	Mr. Proper is Mr. Clean? What a twist!	Oct 27 14:32
MinceR	:>	Oct 27 14:32
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Clean#International_versions	Oct 27 14:32
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XRevan86	> In the United Kingdom and Ireland, the product is sold under the brand name Flash	Oct 27 14:39
XRevan86	What a colourful zoo of brand names.	Oct 27 14:39
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/UNmYtei	Oct 27 14:51
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/XmnOQMd.jpg	Oct 27 15:00
XRevan86	а б в (г д е) (ёж)	Oct 27 15:04
XRevan86	The Russian Cyrillic alphabet asks the important question	Oct 27 15:04
XRevan86	where's the hedgehog?	Oct 27 15:04
XRevan86	где ёж?	Oct 27 15:04
MinceR	:>	Oct 27 15:09
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/gXPyIhp	Oct 27 16:04
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XRevan86	MinceR: They've invented shawarma?	Oct 27 16:32
MinceR	no, keep watching :>	Oct 27 16:32
XRevan86	MinceR: When they placed this horror into the grill, that's when I thought of shawerma	Oct 27 16:33
MinceR	lol	Oct 27 16:33
MinceR	i don't think that's what shawarma is	Oct 27 16:33
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XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, it's more about the feel %)	Oct 27 16:38
XRevan86	my personal	Oct 27 16:38
XRevan86	Though, maybe it's more about chebureki :)	Oct 27 16:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923955187588493313	Oct 27 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	My first open source experience: 4 takeaways	Oct 27 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GxS8JSDquZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 17:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923955463049371649	Oct 27 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 18.04 Codename Announced \| Bionic Beaver	Oct 27 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EB0UuB4hvX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 17:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923955850808569856	Oct 27 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.13.10 https://t.co/ANTVCrbluy	Oct 27 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923956530667548672	Oct 27 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	3.5-inch SBC dives into Kaby Lake https://t.co/KbS641ItBd	Oct 27 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 17:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923957273294266368	Oct 27 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	Void Linux: A Salute to Old-School Linux	Oct 27 18:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qSk9npasSc (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 18:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923958309304131585	Oct 27 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ethereum + OpenCL Benchmarks With The Latest AMDGPU-PRO	Oct 27 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Mining & NVIDIA Linux Drivers https://t.co/aJPdVM5uIr	Oct 27 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923958686808240128	Oct 27 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/P2V4bRvnai	Oct 27 18:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923959800110682112	Oct 27 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Scary Linux commands for Halloween	Oct 27 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NrAKDFMkm7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @verfassungklage retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Scary Linux commands for Halloween https://t.co/NrAKDFMkm7'		Oct 27 18:16
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Scary Linux commands for Halloween https://t.co/NrAKDFMkm7'		Oct 27 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@amy_anania https://twitter.com/amy_anania/status/923962918512799745	Oct 27 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @schestowitz Rajoy mask with item 155:)	Oct 27 18:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923965079967752193	Oct 27 18:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923965861190389766	Oct 27 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ethereum + OpenCL Benchmarks With The Latest AMDGPU-PRO	Oct 27 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Mining & NVIDIA Linux Drivers https://t.co/aJPdVM5uIr	Oct 27 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923968464582332416	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Void Linux: A Salute to Old-School Linux	Oct 27 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/qSk9npasSc (www.linux.com)	Oct 27 18:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @MikeWilliams012 favourited 'Void Linux: A Salute to Old-School Linux https://t.co/qSk9npasSc'		Oct 27 18:50
MinceR	XRevan86: cheeki breeki	Oct 27 18:52
MinceR	yeah, that one's closer	Oct 27 18:53
*TweetTuxMachines @MikeWilliams012 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Void Linux: A Salute to Old-School Linux https://t.co/qSk9npasSc'		Oct 27 18:53
MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-VHe_4GmE	Oct 27 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923970833462300673	Oct 27 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 3.5-inch SBC dives into Kaby Lake https://t.co/KbS641ItBd	Oct 27 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923971864220839936	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux 4.13.10 https://t.co/ANTVCrbluy	Oct 27 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923972711499563008	Oct 27 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 18.04 Codename Announced \| Bionic Beaver	Oct 27 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923972817745477632	Oct 27 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	System76 and ZaReason both sell Linux laptops with Kaby	Oct 27 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	Lake Refresh chips	Oct 27 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SzOz01qzNh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:02
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 19:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923973177449041926	Oct 27 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by My first open source experience: 4 takeaways	Oct 27 19:05
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/GxS8JSDquZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923973945828757504	Oct 27 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by System76 and ZaReason both sell Linux laptops with Kaby	Oct 27 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Lake Refresh chips	Oct 27 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SzOz01qzNh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/923977253385629696	Oct 27 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	quoted by Tweet von (@tuxmachines)	Oct 27 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	@verfassungklage	Oct 27 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux_4.13.10 ...	Oct 27 19:18
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AxrD6LG7Dr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:18
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ggCTKtNVnH (twitter.com)	Oct 27 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	▏ Linux 4.13.10 https://t.co/ANTVCrbluy	Oct 27 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	▏ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/923984245021954048	Oct 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 18.04 Codename Announced \| Bionic Beaver	Oct 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@glynmoody https://t.co/EB0UuB4hvX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 19:54
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DaemonFC	https://rollingout.com/2017/09/20/dirty-chicago-cop-caught-15-years-run/	Oct 27 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rollingout.com \| Dirty Chicago cop caught after 15 years on the run		Oct 27 20:07
MinceR	caught and washed	Oct 27 20:11
MinceR	https://img.memecdn.com/5-stars_c_7195885.jpg	Oct 27 20:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I want to know is how he was on the run for 17 years.	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	Like, how do you even disappear like that today?	Oct 27 20:43
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	In the 1950s, it was easy. No computers or anything.	Oct 27 20:43
MinceR	drive into a flyover state?	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	You went to a public library, read some obituaries, found an infant that died that would have been about the same age, and applied for a Social Security card under that identity.	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	Then you get driver's license, bank account, etc.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	Bam, new person.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	MinceR, I guess if you have enough money, you can still get the proper documents to impersonate someone else.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	But it's much harder to pull off now.	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	MinceR, He was in Michigan, which is not what it once was, but is hardly a failed stte.	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	*state	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	MinceR, The midwest manages to go on in a reduced capacity.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	Everyone who can't get a job here goes to the south, where they still have jobs.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	Then the unemployment problem sorts itself out.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's why Chicago hasn't grown in decades and Houston was on track to become the third largest city.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	It still might. People will rebuild down there and we might go another 20 years before it gets wiped out again.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	People are stupid and don't think long term.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	You'd think that when we start comparing hurricanes to the "finger of god", so to speak, because they're completely off the existing scale, people would evacuate the coast.	Oct 27 20:48
DaemonFC	But they just build even more stuff there after it happens.	Oct 27 20:48
DaemonFC	I think that in the long long term it'll start getting so bad and so often that people say "fuck this" and head north again.	Oct 27 20:49
DaemonFC	Chicago is ready for most of the disasters that could happen here. We have deep tunnel to deal with massive amounts of rain.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	It has proven itself already since I've lived here.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	It was a total downpour for like 9 days recently and nothing flooded because of the deep tunnel project.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	The storms got to Fort Wayne and lots of houses under water.	Oct 27 20:51
DaemonFC	Fort Wayne was making fun of us for deep tunnel and then after getting flooded out repeatedly, they recently broke ground on their own version of it.	Oct 27 20:51
DaemonFC	Right now, Chicago's deep tunnel empties all the excess water into a reservoir that was repurposed from an old quarry.	Oct 27 20:52
DaemonFC	It's pretty neat.	Oct 27 20:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, Trump and his retards are just sticking their fingers in their ears and going "La la la la la! What's that? Can't hear you!" about climate change.	Oct 27 20:53
DaemonFC	One of his first orders was to get rid of a requirement to plan for climate change and make new development resilient, so now the south can get tons of federal dollars for projects that wil lbe ruined a few years later.	Oct 27 20:54
MinceR	they won't care until it's too late to do anything	Oct 27 20:55
MinceR	as long as they can pollute the Earth, the human species is doomed	Oct 27 20:55
MinceR	and so are many others	Oct 27 20:55
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DaemonFC	MinceR, The parasites have gotten too successful and now will either kill the host or the host will kill them.	Oct 27 20:59
MinceR	indeed	Oct 27 20:59
DaemonFC	If we wanted to sustain ourselves indefinitely, it would require negative population growth until we were back down to 4-5 billion.	Oct 27 20:59
MinceR	same applies to microsoft, apple, red hat and canonical	Oct 27 20:59
DaemonFC	MinceR, The Republicans are going nuts because Governor Rauner of Illinois signed the first law in the country requiring a state government to pay for abortions for any state worker or anyone on Medicaid.	Oct 27 21:00
DaemonFC	It will solve a significant amount of the budget crisis.	Oct 27 21:01
DaemonFC	An abortion is far cheaper than generational welfare.	Oct 27 21:01
DaemonFC	Ignoring everything else, it'll probably save the government at least $200 for every $1 in new spending.	Oct 27 21:02
DaemonFC	The people who qualify for this would have had their children on food stamps, Medicaid, and who knows what else for at least 18 years.	Oct 27 21:03
DaemonFC	Many of them would also have qualified for SSI from Social Security, and subsidized housing.	Oct 27 21:03
DaemonFC	So it helps the federal government's budget too.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	It will also lower crime, eventually.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	15+ years from now.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	The religious nuts don't like it even though they don't want any welfare spending to deal with their mess once the fetuses are born and become people.	Oct 27 21:05
DaemonFC	Nice, huh?	Oct 27 21:05
DaemonFC	"Duh, we forced you to remain pregnant and now your child will starve. Not our problem. Get a job! What's that? You have to take care of your kid so you can't get a job? So? Just pull yourself up by your own bootstraps!"	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	yeah	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	but that has an effect several years into the future	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	that's not something they can process	Oct 27 21:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, the people who would be in their prime crime years won't be there to commit any crimes, so crime will drop.	Oct 27 21:07
DaemonFC	It's completely obvious, yet they will choose to ignore it.	Oct 27 21:08
DaemonFC	Also, fewer jobs will be needed, so unemployment will go down.	Oct 27 21:08
DaemonFC	It's just that it will take so many years for this to phase in that nobody is even considering it right now.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	Fewer people trying to get into a limited number of slots for college takes pressure off of tuition.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, I liked the example of that world they went to in Sliders.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	Where they kept their population down, and as a result, there was no shortage of anything and barely any crime to speak of.	Oct 27 21:10
MinceR	but gawd says it's wrong!	Oct 27 21:10
DaemonFC	Fill the Earth and subdue it! Then live in Soylent Green. Herpa derp derp!	Oct 27 21:11
cubexyz	soylent got banned in Canada :)	Oct 27 21:11
MinceR	cubexyz: why?	Oct 27 21:12
MinceR	"She has God inside of her. Would have been easier to deal with a tumor."	Oct 27 21:12
cubexyz	not nutritious enough to be a meal replacement	Oct 27 21:13
MinceR	ic	Oct 27 21:15
cubexyz	some people don't like the taste	Oct 27 21:15
MinceR	that's irrelevant	Oct 27 21:15
MinceR	i hope they don't ban stuff in canada because some people don't like the taste	Oct 27 21:16
cubexyz	no, I'm merely repeating what some people thought	Oct 27 21:16
MinceR	ic	Oct 27 21:17
DaemonFC	MinceR, https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22791947_420576238344588_767840029346690009_o.jpg?oh=e7bc43cbf6ea41bb7330ad49a93c0139&oe=5A7136ED	Oct 27 21:20
MinceR	:)	Oct 27 21:23
DaemonFC	MinceR, I added, "A start would be to expand access to birth control and abortion so that the people who know they would be **** parents would remove themselves from the problem.".	Oct 27 21:26
MinceR	http://existentialcomics.com/comic/207	Oct 27 21:29
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schestowitz	these are always tl;dr	Oct 27 21:31
MinceR	tl;dr is subjective	Oct 27 21:31
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_(meal_replacement) Really how much people take from fiction and attempt to turn into reality.	Oct 27 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Soylent (meal replacement) - Wikipedia		Oct 27 21:34
MinceR	it doesn't have long pig in it :(	Oct 27 21:35
cubexyz	Hegel looks a bit like a James Bond villian	Oct 27 21:36
DaemonFC	“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and sma	Oct 27 21:39
DaemonFC	ller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” -Douglas Adams	Oct 27 21:39
DaemonFC	I can't believe that Pidgin still exists.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	The IRC client needs a lot of work.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	Can't think of a single use for it except for Purple-Facebook maybe.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	MSN is long gone. AIM is shutting down.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	I guess that in the scheme of things, reverse engineered Facebook Chat support isn't any worse than what they went through with Microsoft or AOL.	Oct 27 21:47
DaemonFC	Many years ago, AOL got angry that people were using Pidgin (gAIM at the time) and started deliberately breaking the protocol about every week or so and forcibly updating their own messenger program to the new version.	Oct 27 21:48
DaemonFC	Because gAIM and Trillian didn't show ads, and so AOL was losing money because there was no good reason to be using their official program.	Oct 27 21:48
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I don't get is who buys books? The library has them all for free and you can borrow them for up to 2 months before you need to take them back.	Oct 27 21:50
DaemonFC	Why is Kindle a thing?	Oct 27 21:50
MinceR	dead tree is bulky, heavy, doesn't remember where you left off, doesn't have lighting built in, you can't grep it	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	Well, not free, but supported through taxes and private donations.	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	and the library is too far away	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's what bookmarks are for.	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	yeah, but it's more comfortable if it takes care of it itself	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	i can access online libraries from anywhere on the grid	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	Plus, the Kindle "lending library" doesn't have a lot of stuff.	Oct 27 21:52
MinceR	i can queue up the several next books without significant extra mass	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	Well, there's ebooks that you can borrow from the library.	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	I don't see any reason to use it.	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	For one thing, real books don't have a battery that runs out.	Oct 27 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924015583116582912	Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster"	Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	Distro with Linux 4.13	Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3evPcPUh8f (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" Distro with Linux 4.13 \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 21:53
MinceR	mine don't run out either	Oct 27 21:53
MinceR	they can easily last until night	Oct 27 21:53
MinceR	(or some more days even)	Oct 27 21:54
MinceR	the Icarus Sense probably lasts longer but battery life isn't as important as other considerations	Oct 27 21:54
DaemonFC	MinceR, Found some audio books on TPB.	Oct 27 21:55
DaemonFC	I guess I can load them onto my AGPTEK mp3 player and listen to them.	Oct 27 21:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux...'		Oct 27 21:55
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux...'		Oct 27 21:55
DaemonFC	MinceR, I wonder if Tribler will ever actually work.	Oct 27 21:56
DaemonFC	Bram Cohen, on his part, has maintained that bittorrent doesn't have privacy because it wasn't meant to. It was meant to efficiently move file data.	Oct 27 21:56
DaemonFC	I think that Tribler is dangerous to use. Perhaps more dangerous than just using Bittorent with no VPN/Proxy.	Oct 27 21:57
DaemonFC	I've heard of people getting infringement letters for things that they don't even share because of the onion routing and the fact that Tribler copies .torrent files around across peers.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	So basically, you could end up being charged with a felony because someone else is using Tribler to pass around plastic gun designs and child porn.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	It's very badly designed and it's worse than nothing at all.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	The people behind it are living on EU "research" money.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> I can't believe that Pidgin still exists.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> The IRC client needs a lot of work.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> Can't think of a single use for it except for Purple-Facebook maybe.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	I use Pidgin, as I did mention before.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	I just like its UI more than one of Gajim.	Oct 27 21:59
MinceR	https://random.cat/i/0WUGa.jpg	Oct 27 22:00
DaemonFC	I like HexChat because it's the only IRC client I've ever used regularly other than mIRC.	Oct 27 22:01
DaemonFC	mIRC being a LOOOOONG time ago, like on Windows 2000/XP.	Oct 27 22:01
DaemonFC	mIRC has a lot of features, like the scripts being really easy to load and use. The scripting language is very similar to Visual Basic.	Oct 27 22:01
MinceR	i prefer irssi (with BitlBee)	Oct 27 22:02
DaemonFC	Unfortunately, there's a lot of macro viruses for mIRC that disguise themselves a add-ons, and the ability to run compiled binary programs as DLL files doesn't make anything better.	Oct 27 22:02
MinceR	mIRC is a joke	Oct 27 22:02
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux...'		Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	it was already nagging users to pay when it could only connect to one server at a time and everyone else could do multiple	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and it's proprietary and winblows-only	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and its scripting language sucks	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and it's ugly	Oct 27 22:03
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Tribler with Australian laws on decryption is fairly much out.	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	though less so since they copied the gui of kvirc	Oct 27 22:03
DaemonFC	MinceR, I wrote a few of them. :D	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	so have i	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	if you mean scripts	Oct 27 22:04
DaemonFC	I mean examples of malicious scripts.	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	mine were mostly non-malicious	Oct 27 22:04
XRevan86	MinceR: What networks do you have inside bitlbee?	Oct 27 22:04
DaemonFC	They all had warnings not to actually run them and that they were there to demonstrate how easy it would be to fool someone into say, formatting drive C.	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	XRevan86: only xmpp is enabled	Oct 27 22:05
MinceR	there's a disabled m$n account and a disabled icq account	Oct 27 22:05
DaemonFC	MinceR, One of them was a program that would open a DOS box and pretend to be formatting your drives.	Oct 27 22:05
XRevan86	MinceR: Nice.	Oct 27 22:05
DaemonFC	It was a joke to scare people.	Oct 27 22:05
oiaohm	I still have a long list of ways to privilage raise in windows using VBA in MS Office.	Oct 27 22:05
DaemonFC	I hid it inside a script that would hook into Winamp and advertise your now playing song.	Oct 27 22:06
XRevan86	MinceR: Why do you keep MSN though, even disabled.	Oct 27 22:06
XRevan86	Isn't it completely and totally dead?	Oct 27 22:06
DaemonFC	The intent was to scare people who were annoying chat rooms.	Oct 27 22:06
DaemonFC	MSNP servers have been gone for years.	Oct 27 22:07
DaemonFC	There's nothing to sign into anymore.	Oct 27 22:07
XRevan86	MinceR: Anyway, you can add me on XMPP :)	Oct 27 22:07
MinceR	XRevan86: it's more work to delete it than to leave it	Oct 27 22:07
DaemonFC	All the MSN/Windows Live Messenger users got repeated warnings to move to Skype and then MSNP was shut down.	Oct 27 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924018616479178755	Oct 27 22:07
TweetTuxMachines	Games: The End Is Nigh, Noctropolis, F1 2017, MAME,	Oct 27 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Unreal Engine	Oct 27 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zAF3qh2tbM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 22:08
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: The End Is Nigh, Noctropolis, F1 2017, MAME, Unreal Engine \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 22:08
DaemonFC	brb	Oct 27 22:08
MinceR	i stopped connecting to it well before that	Oct 27 22:08
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited 'DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux...'		Oct 27 22:08
oiaohm	DaemonFC: http://ismsndeadyet.com/ not quite yet.	Oct 27 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ismsndeadyet.com \| Is MSN dead yet?		Oct 27 22:08
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XRevan86	oiaohm: "YES"	Oct 27 22:10
oiaohm	https://github.com/msndevs/protocol-docs/wiki MSNP24 is still alive.	Oct 27 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Home · msndevs/protocol-docs Wiki · GitHub		Oct 27 22:10
XRevan86	oiaohm: That is to say, Skype	Oct 27 22:10
oiaohm	XRevan86: same base protocol its MSN protocl.	Oct 27 22:11
MinceR	typical	Oct 27 22:11
MinceR	your product sucks? no problem, just rename it a few times!	Oct 27 22:11
XRevan86	oiaohm: Yes, but it's still Skype %)	Oct 27 22:12
XRevan86	and if a client called it "MSN", then it doesn't work	Oct 27 22:12
oiaohm	XRevan86: outlook in configuration calls the connection to Skype in places MSN.	Oct 27 22:12
oiaohm	XRevan86: so almost dead.	Oct 27 22:13
MinceR	:)	Oct 27 22:13
MinceR	outlook needs to die as well	Oct 27 22:13
XRevan86	It's kind of amusing that after Microsoft bought Skype, it threw everything Skype away %)	Oct 27 22:13
XRevan86	They didn't need Skype, they needed to make users of Skype automatically theirs.	Oct 27 22:14
MinceR	well, makes sense	Oct 27 22:14
MinceR	skype was garbage	Oct 27 22:14
MinceR	unfortunately what they put in its place is garbage as well	Oct 27 22:14
oiaohm	Yep and Skype came the new name for MSN Messenger so it goes MSN Messenger, Windows Live Messenger then Skype.	Oct 27 22:15
XRevan86	MinceR: But, you know, they bought it :)	Oct 27 22:15
MinceR	also, how can you be sure they discarded the whole evil proprietary p2p bullshit?	Oct 27 22:15
oiaohm	MSNP24 appears when they remove the p2p from skype.	Oct 27 22:16
oiaohm	Also we don't know what MSNP23 was used in.	Oct 27 22:16
MinceR	suXbox?	Oct 27 22:16
oiaohm	MinceR: no that MSNP22 or MSNP24	Oct 27 22:17
oiaohm	Its a magic version number jump with no explain.	Oct 27 22:17
MinceR	they like those	Oct 27 22:17
MinceR	like from 4.0 to 2000 :>	Oct 27 22:18
MinceR	or from 3.2 to 95	Oct 27 22:18
oiaohm	MSNP24 removes the means to ask for prior versions of the protocol.	Oct 27 22:19
oiaohm	So either you can do MSNP24 or the server will not accept.	Oct 27 22:19
oiaohm	MSNP22 server you could request all the way back to MSNP10.	Oct 27 22:20
oiaohm	correction MSNP9 the first official protocol.	Oct 27 22:21
oiaohm	Nothing like supporting huge volumes of baggage with bugs everywhere.	Oct 27 22:22
MinceR	they love that too	Oct 27 22:22
MinceR	case in point: OOXML	Oct 27 22:22
MinceR	http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/moral-dilemmas	Oct 27 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com \| Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Moral Dilemmas		Oct 27 22:30
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oiaohm	MinceR: seen a question in ethics class like that one. Teacher hated my answer. Yes remember to take poison for the bread. Being really good or really evil takes planning.	Oct 27 22:43
MinceR	:)	Oct 27 22:43
oiaohm	MinceR: the extra evil bonus point is you as the only one with the anti-dote to the poison. Hello extra rounds of evil.	Oct 27 22:45
DaemonFC	"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	This planet has – or rather had – a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn’t the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	And so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. [...] And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, a girl sitting on her own in a small cafe in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time,	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	Sadly, however, before she could get to a phone to tell anyone about it, a terrible stupid catastrophe occurred, and the idea was lost forever.	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	This is not her story." -The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy	Oct 27 22:46
DaemonFC	One of the greatest book openings ever...	Oct 27 22:46
MinceR	oiaohm: :)	Oct 27 22:47
MinceR	DaemonFC: lol	Oct 27 22:47
XRevan86	Heh, I read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in translation, yet recognised the source of the quote almost instantly :)	Oct 27 22:48
oiaohm	XRevan86: most books don't use unfashionable to describe a galaxy location. I think hitchhiker's is the only one that does.	Oct 27 22:50
MinceR	DNA's style is recognizable	Oct 27 22:51
oiaohm	Nothing gets more confusing that talking about internals of blender 3d and having those with biological studies listen in.	Oct 27 22:52
oiaohm	MinceR: https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Source/Data_Structures/DNAStructs Just happens to be more than 1 DNA.	Oct 27 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.blender.org \| Dev:Source/Data Structures/DNAStructs - BlenderWiki		Oct 27 22:53
MinceR	oiaohm: this one >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Noel_Adams	Oct 27 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Douglas Adams - Wikipedia		Oct 27 22:55
oiaohm	MinceR: so his middle name Noel.	Oct 27 22:56
oiaohm	MinceR: thanks I just think of him as Douglas Adams.	Oct 27 22:56
MinceR	:)	Oct 27 22:56
oiaohm	The blender DNA/RNA.SDNA.... Large number of blender internal use biological terms lot of the time incorrectly.	Oct 27 22:57
oiaohm	So its like the perfect confuse fight starts over hey you must have that term wrong.	Oct 27 22:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924019919779516416	Oct 27 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games: The End Is Nigh, Noctropolis, F1 2017, MAME,	Oct 27 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Unreal Engine	Oct 27 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zAF3qh2tbM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:09
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: The End Is Nigh, Noctropolis, F1 2017, MAME, Unreal Engine \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924035354348478464	Oct 27 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	CompuLab IPC3, Testing 10 Mini PCs / Small Form Factor	Oct 27 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux PCs	Oct 27 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k4GkCMP7J5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:11
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| CompuLab IPC3, Testing 10 Mini PCs / Small Form Factor Linux PCs \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924035772117811202	Oct 27 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel/Graphics: Linux Foundation Report, AMD, and Intel	Oct 27 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XFuJbHZFjS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel/Graphics: Linux Foundation Report, AMD, and Intel \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:13
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:13
MinceR	> everybody knows that the poor are crazy, and the wealthy are eccentric. same disease, same symptoms.	Oct 27 23:14
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'CompuLab IPC3, Testing 10 Mini PCs / Small...'		Oct 27 23:15
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Kernel/Graphics: Linux Foundation Report, AMD, and Intel ...'		Oct 27 23:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924037566353035265	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	System Lands with New Tools	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4F2REIbHXr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands with New Tools \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924038042314297344	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	Reviews of Ubuntu MATE 17.10	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EaFowr309m (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:20
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Reviews of Ubuntu MATE 17.10 \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:20
DaemonFC	"Mr. Prosser, who was talking with a spokesman for the bulldozer drivers about whether Arthur Dent was a mental health hazard, and how much they should get paid if he was....."	Oct 27 23:21
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 27 23:21
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands...'		Oct 27 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924038612924104704	Oct 27 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: 17.10 Review, Ubuntu 18.04 Plans, and Mir/Wayland	Oct 27 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/m7jZ7lU87B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu: 17.10 Review, Ubuntu 18.04 Plans, and Mir/Wayland \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:24
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu: 17.10 Review, Ubuntu 18.04 Plans, and Mir/Wayland...'		Oct 27 23:30
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Reviews of Ubuntu MATE 17.10 https://t.co/EaFowr309m...'		Oct 27 23:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924041360797249536	Oct 27 23:33
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi CM3 fuels touch panel and network media	Oct 27 23:33
TweetTuxMachines	player	Oct 27 23:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rbie47xomb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi CM3 fuels touch panel and network media player \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:34
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:34
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Oct 27 23:37
DaemonFC	4 mins ·	Oct 27 23:37
DaemonFC	"Looks at torrent client. 3 seeders 7 leechers."	Oct 27 23:37
DaemonFC	Don't flaunt it if you're not gonna give it up!	Oct 27 23:37
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands...'		Oct 27 23:38
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/hbWIm	Oct 27 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stained glass picture "Iron man" - Album on Imgur		Oct 27 23:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Raspberry Pi CM3 fuels touch panel and network...'		Oct 27 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924043602334027776	Oct 27 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: TLS, Systers, RockScript, London Perl	Oct 27 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	Workshop	Oct 27 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sj6PlpE0BC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:44
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming: TLS, Systers, RockScript, London Perl Workshop \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924044029821583365	Oct 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IwySNRg61B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programming: TLS, Systers, RockScript, London Perl Workshop https://t.co/sj6PlpE0BC...'		Oct 27 23:46
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's leftovers https://t.co/IwySNRg61B...'		Oct 27 23:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924045987747913728	Oct 27 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	Security: UEFI Risks and Bad Rabbit (Microsoft Windows	Oct 27 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	Strikes Again)	Oct 27 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Bto4ubAWZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:54
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: UEFI Risks and Bad Rabbit (Microsoft Windows Strikes Again) \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924046526996996096	Oct 27 23:57
TweetTuxMachines	Servers and Red Hat, Fedora	Oct 27 23:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YW8550EmG7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Servers and Red Hat, Fedora \| Tux Machines		Oct 27 23:57
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 27 23:57
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: UEFI Risks and Bad Rabbit (Microsoft Windows...'		Oct 27 23:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924047529595064321	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers and Red Hat, Fedora	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/YW8550EmG7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 00:26
*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Servers and Red Hat, Fedora https://t.co/YW8550EmG7...'		Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/924054633185726469	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: UEFI Risks and Bad Rabbit (Microsoft Windows	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief Strikes Again)	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2Bto4ubAWZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/924054641486258178	Oct 28 00:26
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cubexyz	ahh... I'm going to have to rehack x2x	Oct 28 02:46
cubexyz	don't feel like doing it now	Oct 28 02:46
cubexyz	someone added -north and -south	Oct 28 02:47
cubexyz	but...	Oct 28 02:47
cubexyz	the autoreconf mumbo-jumbo doesn't work on older linux	Oct 28 02:48
XRevan86	cubexyz: macros too new?	Oct 28 02:50
XRevan86	Or do you mean the command autoreconf -fi	Oct 28 02:50
cubexyz	actually it wants to: autoreconf -isv	Oct 28 02:51
cubexyz	anyways, I just wrote my own makefile... but then I realized I have to port it to the target systems	Oct 28 02:52
cubexyz	and the weird part is -north and -south were added in 1998	Oct 28 02:53
XRevan86	cubexyz: Same thing almost	Oct 28 02:53
cubexyz	openbsd is still using x2x-1.27p0	Oct 28 02:54
XRevan86	-s – symlinks instead of copying, -v – verbosity, -f – force update	Oct 28 02:54
XRevan86	You can always aclocal, intltool, gettext, autoheader, autoconf, automake if autoreconf is not present	Oct 28 02:55
cubexyz	or I could just write my own simple makefile :)	Oct 28 02:56
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XRevan86	Or you could invoke GCC directly %)	Oct 28 02:56
cubexyz	even the makefile is a bit bogus	Oct 28 02:57
cubexyz	-lXext -lXext	Oct 28 02:57
cubexyz	there was no need to put that in twice	Oct 28 02:57
XRevan86	pkg-config --cflags --libs xext :)	Oct 28 02:58
XRevan86	(too modern?)	Oct 28 02:58
DaemonFC	https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Bluetooth-1-1inch-Sweatproof-Silicone/dp/B073TTR7CZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509155921&sr=8-2&keywords=a12+agptek	Oct 28 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: AGPTEK A12 8GB Clip Bluetooth Mp3 Player, Sports Clip Hi-Fi Sound Music Player with FM Radio, 1.1inch OLED, Sweatproof Silicone Case, Support up to 128GB, Dark Blue: Books		Oct 28 02:59
DaemonFC	" -Compatible System: Windows7/8/8.1/10/XP/Vista/2001/Mac OS"	Oct 28 02:59
DaemonFC	Was there a Windows 2001?	Oct 28 03:00
XRevan86	https://loadaverage.org/notice/10908423 heh	Oct 28 03:00
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cubexyz	ummm, XP?	Oct 28 03:01
cubexyz	you could call that windows 2001	Oct 28 03:01
XRevan86	DaemonFC: At least they have Mac OS 9 covered	Oct 28 03:01
cubexyz	or XP 64-bit or something	Oct 28 03:02
cubexyz	XRevan86, ok here is all that's really needed:	Oct 28 03:04
cubexyz	gcc x2x.c keymap.c -o x2x -lXtst -lXext -lX11	Oct 28 03:04
cubexyz	it's a bit bigger than x2x-1.27	Oct 28 03:06
XRevan86	cubexyz: Looks legit.	Oct 28 03:06
cubexyz	-west was the slack box	Oct 28 03:10
cubexyz	-east was the openbsd box	Oct 28 03:11
cubexyz	unfortunately both boxes are actually west of the control box :-/	Oct 28 03:11
cubexyz	it's a bit disharmonious	Oct 28 03:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: Maybe the -east box listened to Pet Shop Boys too much :)	Oct 28 03:14
XRevan86	( https://youtu.be/LNBjMRvOB5M )	Oct 28 03:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pet Shop Boys - Go West - YouTube		Oct 28 03:15
cubexyz	it still beats switching keyboards manually	Oct 28 03:16
cubexyz	XRevan86, I'm just wondering how old you would have been in 1984 :)	Oct 28 03:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: What a bizarre question :)	Oct 28 03:19
XRevan86	well, not technically a question	Oct 28 03:19
cubexyz	the year that song came out?	Oct 28 03:19
cubexyz	sorry... maybe I've got my songs mixed up	Oct 28 03:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's 1993 :)	Oct 28 03:20
cubexyz	I was thinking "West End Girls"	Oct 28 03:20
cubexyz	but you meant "Go West"	Oct 28 03:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: But it made you think of my age and that's intriguing	Oct 28 03:23
cubexyz	I just didn't think you were old enough to remember "West End Girls" from 1984	Oct 28 03:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: I "remember" a lot of things that are older than I am ;).	Oct 28 03:24
XRevan86	including but not limited to: ELO, A-ha, The Doors, Kino, Rainbow, Pink Floyd, Space, Fancy, Modern Talking, Boney M.	Oct 28 03:26
XRevan86	Kraftwerk	Oct 28 03:28
cubexyz	ah... I was just going to mention them	Oct 28 03:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: heh	Oct 28 03:30
cubexyz	how about 808 state?	Oct 28 03:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: Never heard about them…	Oct 28 03:32
cubexyz	well. if you like Kraftwerk you might like 808 state	Oct 28 03:33
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm listening to Pacific State right now :)	Oct 28 03:33
XRevan86	seems more like ELO than Kraftwerk	Oct 28 03:34
cubexyz	both English I think	Oct 28 03:35
DaemonFC	XRevan86, Really, the player is just MSC, so even Windows 95 should work as long as you have the USB support update. :/	Oct 28 03:37
DaemonFC	Well, I think you need a MSC driver too, but Samsung made one for one of their early flash drives, and it works for other devices too.	Oct 28 03:37
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I never look at OS support requirements :)	Oct 28 03:38
XRevan86	My monitor is "designed for Windows Vista", after all	Oct 28 03:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, 808 State is not hitting…	Oct 28 03:40
XRevan86	too homogeneous it feels	Oct 28 03:40
cubexyz	no like? ok	Oct 28 03:40
cubexyz	I liked some of their stuff... like Gorgeous	Oct 28 03:41
XRevan86	Kraftwerk's singer's Germanness shows sometimes :)	Oct 28 03:48
XRevan86	"scotlant yart"	Oct 28 03:48
cubexyz	I'll share my classical favourites list	Oct 28 03:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/classical-music.txt	Oct 28 03:49
XRevan86	just like Fancy most of the time pronounces w's like v's	Oct 28 03:49
cubexyz	no w sound in german?	Oct 28 03:54
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah	Oct 28 03:54
XRevan86	And to make things harder for Germans, German has a letter "w", which means "v"	Oct 28 03:55
cubexyz	but isn't Fancy from England?	Oct 28 03:56
XRevan86	cubexyz: Nope, he's from Munich	Oct 28 03:57
cubexyz	oh wait, there's a german singer called fancy isn't there	Oct 28 03:57
cubexyz	I was thinking the group called Fancy	Oct 28 03:58
XRevan86	cubexyz: Oh :). Yes, there is.	Oct 28 03:59
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_(singer)	Oct 28 03:59
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XRevan86	The most famous song of his is Flames of Love	Oct 28 04:00
XRevan86	In the realms of Eurodisco, Synthpop, all that.	Oct 28 04:00
cubexyz	Kraftwerk must be the original electronic music group	Oct 28 04:07
cubexyz	I guess eurodisco would be ABBA :)	Oct 28 04:10
cubexyz	maybe Juno Reactor would be more to your liking	Oct 28 04:15
XRevan86	cubexyz: Nope, ABBA is just disco :)	Oct 28 04:17
XRevan86	But I like ABBA.	Oct 28 04:19
amarsh04	I've seen Kraftwerk live in 2012 at the same concert as Yellow Magic Orchestra	Oct 28 05:01
amarsh04	liked YMO more for playing their old favourites, Kraftwerk didn't even play Autobahn or Tour de France	Oct 28 05:02
oiaohm	https://betanews.com/2017/10/27/new-york-times-tor-onion-service/ Hmm wonder if this will still have paywalls tracing back to particular billing.	Oct 28 05:06
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schestowitz	wow	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	Dear DefectiveByDesign.org supporter,	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	On Wednesday, October 25th, we received an email letting us know that an old Drupal database backup file was publicly accessible on defectivebydesign.org, a site operated by the Free Software Foundation. This backup file contained contact information and other details that should not have been public, submitted from 2007-2012. You are receiving this message because the file included this email address, possibly linked with other details	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	listed below. We believe it has been publicly accessible since 2012, though unadvertised, and until recently, not indexed by search engines.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	Within minutes of receiving the report, we removed the file and started auditing defectivebydesign.org and the rest of our sites.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	The file did not contain any passwords or password hashes, financial information, mailing addresses, or information about users who interacted with the site without ever logging in. While it is certainly possible, we have seen no evidence that the file was accessed by anyone other than the reporter and the search crawler, nor republished anywhere else.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	The file did include (from both real and spambot users' profiles):	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	~28,000 email addresses;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	user and contact names;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some IP addresses associated with comments on posts;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	~200 phone numbers;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some preferred language settings;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some information users shared about whether they participated in a particular campaign action (like a call-in), and	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	timestamps of users submitting data.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	I am deeply and personally sorry for this mistake. We know how important your privacy is to you; we fight on your behalf every day against restrictive and invasive technologies that threaten it.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	We also don't believe in covering up our mistakes, so I wanted to let you know as soon as possible that you were affected -- shortly after we had finished our initial audit to make sure we understood the full extent of the problem and fixed the most urgent issues.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Even though we are a small team, under pressure to move fast against extremely large forces, this kind of mistake is absolutely unacceptable. We have made many improvements in our security practices since 2012, and in light of this failure will be taking a deeper look at what else we need to do.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	If you have any follow-up questions, please email us at sysadmin@fsf.org, and CC me at johns@fsf.org.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	On behalf of everyone here: We are sorry.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Thank you,	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	John Sullivan	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Executive Director	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	P.S. If you are a Drupal site administrator using the backup-migrate module, make sure to check your configuration settings to ensure backup files are private. In just a few minutes of searching, we found others who are making the same mistake we did.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 06:40
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oiaohm	schestowitz: yep one of the problems of online data.	Oct 28 06:58
oiaohm	schestowitz: Its always 1 error from being public.	Oct 28 06:58
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TweetTuxMachines	antiX 17 "Heather Heyer" Offers a Systemd-Free OS Based	Oct 28 08:31
TweetTuxMachines	on Debian GNU/Linux 9.2 https://t.co/9Qtn31ig6K	Oct 28 08:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924176696454115329	Oct 28 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	World's Most Trusted Open-Source Firewall, pfSense,	Oct 28 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	Patched Against WPA2 KRACK https://t.co/skP0IAvck0	Oct 28 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:32
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 08:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924177089867276288	Oct 28 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	Apollo Lake Pico-ITX board offers multiple expansion	Oct 28 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	paths https://t.co/Jd71NlVXq5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:34
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Apollo Lake Pico-ITX board offers multiple expansion paths \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924177463143485440	Oct 28 08:36
TweetTuxMachines	There's a DebEX Version with GNOME 3.26, Based on Debian	Oct 28 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924177968657813504	Oct 28 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability	Oct 28 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS https://t.co/JWNeWRQoRR	Oct 28 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:39
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 08:39
*TweetTuxMachines @conchezness favourited 'Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability...'		Oct 28 08:39
*TweetTuxMachines @conchezness retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability...'		Oct 28 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924180044330733568	Oct 28 08:45
TweetTuxMachines	Elive 2.9.12 beta released	Oct 28 08:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HtVvI07tCa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 08:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924180337873301504	Oct 28 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Beta 1 open source operating	Oct 28 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	system available for download https://t.co/50n5g7GHCQ	Oct 28 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Beta 1 open source...'		Oct 28 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924185222597537792	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by World's Most Trusted Open-Source Firewall, pfSense,	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Patched Against WPA2 KRACK https://t.co/skP0IAvck0	Oct 28 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924186130739843072	Oct 28 09:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by antiX 17 "Heather Heyer" Offers a Systemd-Free OS Based	Oct 28 09:13
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz on Debian GNU/Linux 9.2 https://t.co/9Qtn31ig6K	Oct 28 09:13
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:13
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924187368214663168	Oct 28 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Apollo Lake Pico-ITX board offers multiple expansion	Oct 28 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz paths https://t.co/Jd71NlVXq5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:23
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TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:23
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands...'		Oct 28 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924191330946908160	Oct 28 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Elive 2.9.12 beta released	Oct 28 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/HtVvI07tCa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924191734476701697	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS https://t.co/JWNeWRQoRR	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@verfassungklage https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/924191751463632897	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	Tweet von (@tuxmachines)	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	#Elive_2.9.12 beta released ...	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Y6H6XIOycy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eeTKa6yfzG (mastodon.technology)	Oct 28 09:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'World's Most Trusted Open-Source Firewall, pfSense, Patched Against...'		Oct 28 09:31
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'antiX 17 "Heather Heyer" Offers a Systemd-Free OS...'		Oct 28 09:32
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability...'		Oct 28 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924192160144117760	Oct 28 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by There's a DebEX Version with GNOME 3.26, Based on Debian	Oct 28 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" https://t.co/Tm9Cz8hfWT	Oct 28 09:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| There's a DebEX Version with GNOME 3.26, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 09:33
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 09:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'There's a DebEX Version with GNOME 3.26, Based...'		Oct 28 09:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Canonical to Focus Mostly on Stability and Reliability...'		Oct 28 09:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands...'		Oct 28 09:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'antiX 17 "Heather Heyer" Offers a Systemd-Free OS...'		Oct 28 09:33
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'World's Most Trusted Open-Source Firewall, pfSense, Patched Against...'		Oct 28 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924201771500736512	Oct 28 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	Flatpak 0.10 New Stable Series Adds Minor Improvements,	Oct 28 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	0.11 to Get New Features	Oct 28 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6TW9P2gdjh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 10:12
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 10:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924202160329551872	Oct 28 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Flatpak 0.10 New Stable Series Adds Minor Improvements,	Oct 28 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 0.11 to Get New Features	Oct 28 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6TW9P2gdjh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:22
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924224903389343744	Oct 28 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	What is Magisk? Root Android Without Changing Partitions	Oct 28 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4TNCf909jw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| What is Magisk? Root Android Without Changing Partitions \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 11:44
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 11:44
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'What is Magisk? Root Android Without Changing Partitions...'		Oct 28 11:51
*TweetTuxMachines @SergeRivera favourited 'Ubuntu-Based CAINE 9.0 "Quantum" GNU/Linux Operating System Lands...'		Oct 28 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924229326417129472	Oct 28 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Reaper, KRACK, Cryptographic	Oct 28 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	kKeycards, Flexera's FUD, Google Play, Windows BadRabbit	Oct 28 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CeUbNoVgfa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:07
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Updates, Reaper, KRACK, Cryptographic kKeycards, Flexera's FUD, Google Play, Windows BadRabbit \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924231066591916033	Oct 28 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 28 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/R3oAG5eqfg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:08
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924231387078676480	Oct 28 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Android 8.1 Developer, Z Garbage Collector,	Oct 28 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	GNU C Library	Oct 28 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hRydSsrxrR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:15
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming: Android 8.1 Developer, Z Garbage Collector, GNU C Library \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924233143779037184	Oct 28 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	Software. HowTos and Games	Oct 28 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1pKKAH3exS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:18
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software. HowTos and Games \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924233988851556352	Oct 28 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	Lightweight Linux Distributions, KDE Server Decoration,	Oct 28 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME GitLab initiative	Oct 28 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LfzHT3zGz9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:21
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 28 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924234509259812865	Oct 28 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora	Oct 28 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/r3ZkIRIgxb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924235001281105925	Oct 28 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers	Oct 28 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WvE1fYvuHs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924235406585065472	Oct 28 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Oct 28 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iz9bMes0Ph (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924236519610703878	Oct 28 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	Links 28/10/2017: Elive 2.9.12 Beta, Chrome 63 Beta	Oct 28 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0aWzBDMmnm (techrights.org)	Oct 28 12:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Updates, Reaper, KRACK, Cryptographic kKeycards, Flexera's FUD,...'		Oct 28 12:35
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS Leftovers https://t.co/R3oAG5eqfg...'		Oct 28 12:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924240151718649856	Oct 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Android 8.1 Developer, Z Garbage Collector,	Oct 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNU C Library	Oct 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hRydSsrxrR (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924242497915809792	Oct 28 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Software. HowTos and Games	Oct 28 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/1pKKAH3exS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924246757843898368	Oct 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Lightweight Linux Distributions, KDE Server Decoration,	Oct 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNOME GitLab initiative	Oct 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LfzHT3zGz9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924248900512440322	Oct 28 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Red Hat and Fedora	Oct 28 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/r3ZkIRIgxb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924251496362971136	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers	Oct 28 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/WvE1fYvuHs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Oct 28 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924254107669598209	Oct 28 13:40
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DaemonFC	Native Wayland support should help. The XWayland overhad isn't THAT baad anymore, but can still be noticeable.	Oct 28 17:35
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DaemonFC	Robert Mueller got a grand jury to indict someone (maybe more than one person) for crime(s) in his investigation of Trump.	Oct 28 18:59
DaemonFC	Whoever it is will be arrested on Monday.	Oct 28 18:59
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DaemonFC	I commented, on Facebook:	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	Religion, everyone. People should seriously read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchens. Both are easily obtainable in audio book format if you're crunched for time. I had already considered myself an atheist or at least an agnostic who strongly doubted the existence of a God for years before these books were released. Probably since the age of	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	14 when my parents went through a very bitter and prolonged divorce and it just occurred to me that religion doesn't answer anything. Religion tells you to shut up and eat it "because I said so". The people pushing it are tyrants. Add to that all of the ludicrous things in religious texts and the fact that every year, scientists prove that more and more of the alleged happenings in books like the bible are wrong and	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	could not have happened. Further, it was impressed upon me that the goal of nearly every "successful" pastor was to be another con artist living a lavish lifestyle based on defrauding the vulnerable out of their limited means, or the vile "prosperity gospel", as it is more commonly known. People like the Jim Bakker, Robert Tilton, or Benny Hinn types that give hope to the hopeless in return for some little old lady in	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	Dubuque sending in her Social Security money in return for a false promise by a false prophet for her to be healed of a disease of old age. From the summary of The God Delusion, " While Europe is becoming increasingly secularized, the rise of religious fundamentalism, whether in the Middle East or Middle America, is dramatically and dangerously dividing opinion around the world. In America, and elsewhere, a vigorous	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	dispute between 'intelligent design' and Darwinism is seriously undermining and restricting the teaching of science. In many countries religious dogma from medieval times still serves to abuse basic human rights such as women's and gay rights. And all from a belief in a God whose existence lacks evidence of any kind. Dawkins attacks God in all his forms. He eviscerates the major arguments for religion and demonstrates	Oct 28 19:17
DaemonFC	the supreme improbability of a supreme being. He shows how religion fuels war, foments bigotry and abuses children. "The God Delusion" is a brilliantly argued, fascinating polemic that will be required reading for anyone interested in this most emotional and important subject."	Oct 28 19:17
DaemonFC	MinceR, Teal'c: "Certainly, you have read the bible, O'Neill." / O'Neill: "Yeah, I've been getting through it, on tape. Don't tell me how it ends."	Oct 28 19:21
MinceR	:)	Oct 28 19:22
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, I have an idea about how fast my Skylake Mobile Core i7-6560U actually is.	Oct 28 19:23
DaemonFC	Running LAME encoding on FLAC files to turn them into VBR MP3 at -V2 (~190k) using both cores and taking advantage of Hyperthreading, I can encode at 140 times normal playback speed.	Oct 28 19:24
DaemonFC	I was sitting at about 39 times normal playback speed with my old Phenom II X4 desktop CPU.	Oct 28 19:25
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DaemonFC	Not bad considering that that Phenom was sitting at about 140 watts for the CPU alone and this ENTIRE laptop never uses more than about 20.	Oct 28 19:26
DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm betting that I haven't seen the full potential of this hardware even yet.	Oct 28 19:27
DaemonFC	Skylake optimized math functions in glibc are set to land in Fedora 28.	Oct 28 19:27
DaemonFC	I'm going through The God Delusion again. I found it in MP3.	Oct 28 19:31
DaemonFC	I gave up on the Hitchhiker's Guide as read by Douglas Adams because some idiot bought it in WMA format and then transcoded it to 32k MP3.	Oct 28 19:31
DaemonFC	It was so hard to listen to at that point that I found a better copy read by Stephen Fry and Martin Freeman, which seems to be in -V5 VBR LAME MP3.	Oct 28 19:32
DaemonFC	I don't know why anyone is using CBR. I mean, it's pointless. LAME can give acceptable results with it through use of the bit reservoir, but it's still not as good as VBR.	Oct 28 19:33
DaemonFC	The only reasons for CBR are streaming and ancient hardware that doesn't know what VBR is. At this point, the only MP3 hardware that doesn't know what VBR is, is likely sitting on a shelf at Goodwill somewhere.	Oct 28 19:34
DaemonFC	MinceR, But Teal'c mentioned that he knew of no Goa'ould that possessed the capability to perform the benevolent acts of God in the bible.	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	I groaned.	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	I was like, "Come on, Teal'c....Did you skip the ENTIRE Old Testament?	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	MinceR, But the Christians (at least some of them) worked around this problem by cutting out the entire Old Testament except Psalms and Proverbs so that nobody who read this new edition would have to trouble themselves at all by having to read about the psychotic bipolar god that took up roughly half (or more, depending on the version) of the story, previously.	Oct 28 19:45
DaemonFC	KILL YOUR CHILD!!!! waits until the last moment HAHAHAA JUST FUCKING WITH YOU! Seriously. Put the knife down. You shoould have seen your face!	Oct 28 19:46
MinceR	DaemonFC: well, it's a small set	Oct 28 19:50
MinceR	also, hallowed are the Ori :>	Oct 28 19:52
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XRevan86	If I understand it correctly, the orthodox church claims the old testament to be valid unless the new one says otherwise.	Oct 28 20:08
XRevan86	So it hasn't been cut out.	Oct 28 20:09
oiaohm	XRevan86: there are 3 groups that are classed orthodox church.	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	oiaohm: The Russian one, sorry.	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	What is the third one? o_0	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	ah	Oct 28 20:17
XRevan86	УПЦ КП	Oct 28 20:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: so Eastern Orthodox Church	Oct 28 20:18
XRevan86	(Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Kiev Patriarchate)	Oct 28 20:19
oiaohm	XRevan86: when you get into Eastern Orthodox Church inside Russia area get gets horrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church You have state mixed in.	Oct 28 20:21
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XRevan86	oiaohm: yep	Oct 28 20:22
XRevan86	Pretty much since Peter I	Oct 28 20:22
XRevan86	and there are also Old Believers, I think they count as orthodox	Oct 28 20:23
oiaohm	XRevan86: please note this is subgroups inside subgroups.	Oct 28 20:24
oiaohm	XRevan86: the major groups of Orthodox Church is Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Independent Catholic. Then Eastern Orthodox breaks down into 5 more groups include Russian and Greek Orthodox.	Oct 28 20:26
XRevan86	>Independent Catholic	Oct 28 20:27
XRevan86	Greek catholic churches?	Oct 28 20:27
oiaohm	XRevan86: and there are disputes between Orthodox on how much old testament has to be followed vs new testament.	Oct 28 20:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: Independent Catholic is inside Italy and not believe in following the pope is a break away from Eastern Orthodox but with bible based around Catholic bible.	Oct 28 20:32
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible what is bible and how much has to be followed turns into a real big mess between all the Orthodox churches.	Oct 28 20:33
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DaemonFC	XRevan86, The Russian Orthodox Church?	Oct 28 20:34
DaemonFC	You have to clarify because there's dozens of different Christian churches and most say that the others are wrong, misguided, and probably going to hell.	Oct 28 20:34
oiaohm	XRevan86: Oriental Orthodox Church is split in two been Syriac Orthodox Church and Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church . Yes the name is not even really aligned to map.	Oct 28 20:36
XRevan86	- G-d, why az esm in hell?	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- Dude, did you hear about the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church?	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- No…	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- That was the one.	Oct 28 20:38
oiaohm	XRevan86: and to be worse lets have more than 1 name as well Coptic Orthodox Church and Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church are the same group.	Oct 28 20:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://mospat.ru/en/2017/05/22/news146355/ there have been many attempt over the years to attempt unfragment the the Orthodox churches.	Oct 28 20:41
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oiaohm	XRevan86: mostly resulting in making more Churches.	Oct 28 20:42
XRevan86	https://xkcd.com/927	Oct 28 20:43
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oiaohm	XRevan86: yep more true for Christian Churches unfortunately. With standards you get the lucky case that the new standard does replace the old at times.	Oct 28 20:44
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Organization_of_Autocephalus_Eastern_Orthodox_Churches.pdf Ok EEP. Russian Orthodox breaks into 8. With Ukrainian Orthodox Church being its own sub group.	Oct 28 20:50
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oiaohm	XRevan86: yes each one has some variation in teaching.	Oct 28 20:51
XRevan86	One would think an "othodox" church would know the traditional way of doing things :).	Oct 28 20:51
oiaohm	XRevan86: It does not help that all the Orthodox Churches with different believes call themselves Orthodox Church.	Oct 28 20:56
oiaohm	XRevan86: you would call this almost the religion equal the the IT word cloud.	Oct 28 20:57
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I don't get is the Jehova's Witnesses.	Oct 28 21:58
DaemonFC	Specifically, the part about how they're standing there passing out religious material at many CTA stations in Chicago. Like, what's the connection? "I just got off a train so I'm going to convert to your religion now?".	Oct 28 21:58
MinceR	obviously everyone's dying to acquire their particular set of delusions	Oct 28 21:59
MinceR	it's "God"'s will, after all	Oct 28 21:59
DaemonFC	Further, why is this allowed? They're trespassing on CTA property, getting in the way of people who are trying to get to a train. Do I have a right to stand next to them passing out pamphlets that say how ridiculously full of shit these people are?	Oct 28 22:00
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oiaohm	MinceR: no that CTA station stuff is USA First Amendment	Oct 28 22:43
MinceR	now if DaemonFC tried what he said, that wouldn't be first amendment	Oct 28 22:43
MinceR	because the USA is a christian fundamentalist state	Oct 28 22:44
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oiaohm	MinceR: I know people who have handed out marketing paper in CTA using first amendment.	Oct 28 22:45
oiaohm	MinceR: http://www.newseuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/personal-public-expression-overview/flyers-leafleting/ its these cases.	Oct 28 22:47
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oiaohm	MinceR: so you could go to a CTA station and hand out flyers about anything and not break the law and its the first amendment.	Oct 28 22:48
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oiaohm	MinceR: stupid part is if they were in the station without flyers/pamphlets they would not be protected by free speech and would have to leave.	Oct 28 22:51
oiaohm	MinceR: USA high court rulings are levels of stupid.	Oct 28 22:51
MinceR	so if you want to loiter in a CTA station, take a stack of flyers.	Oct 28 22:51
XRevan86	Humans determine what is good or bad, legit or not based on social acceptance. It seems societies in general failed to promote reason.	Oct 28 22:52
oiaohm	MinceR: yes and be handing them out so you have the law.	Oct 28 22:53
oiaohm	MinceR: the warped one I would like to try is wonder if blank A4 would count.	Oct 28 22:54
MinceR	:)	Oct 28 22:55
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XRevan86	MinceR: Better to be on a safe side and use Nokia 3210 for this. </the_most_obvious_joke>	Oct 28 23:24
MinceR	:>	Oct 28 23:24
schestowitz	MinceR: wished he had missed	Oct 28 23:24
MinceR	:>	Oct 28 23:25
MinceR	http://pleated-jeans.com/2017/10/04/funny-pic-dump-10-4-17/	Oct 28 23:28
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XRevan86	http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ll-22.jpg	Oct 28 23:42
XRevan86	> The question is, whom?	Oct 28 23:42
XRevan86	whom? really?	Oct 28 23:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/924401197162860544	Oct 28 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Oct 28 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/ZpkhHRoD3Q (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 23:44
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MinceR	hypercorrection	Oct 28 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines	#GNOME 3.27.1 RELEASED https://t.co/50htnxZdqY	Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #gtk	Oct 22 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922028638035501056	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 10:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#GNOME 3.27.1 RELEASED https://t.co/50htnxZdqY #gnu #linux #gtk...'		Oct 22 10:18
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better Support...'		Oct 22 10:23
*TweetTuxMachines @Rick4312 retweeted @tuxmachines: '#LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better Support...'		Oct 22 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Rick4312/status/922032277584048129	Oct 22 10:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922036369601507328	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of the Open	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Source Community	Oct 22 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3p9gvFKhau (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 10:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Success! #Beelink S1 Running Linux – Courtesy of...'		Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922039802098278401	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	#WineStaging 2.19	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ohW2TofqqZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #wine #gnu	Oct 22 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #freesw	Oct 22 11:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922040279980564480	Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	Games: The Coma: Recut, #MushroomWars 2 and #TeamFortress	Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	2	Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M6Fmd7OdPB (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu	Oct 22 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Oct 22 11:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: The Coma: Recut, #MushroomWars 2 and #TeamFortress...'		Oct 22 11:08
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cubexyz	doh... why don't I run rtorrent in the framebuffer	Oct 22 13:19
cubexyz	then if I kill X the program continues to run	Oct 22 13:20
cubexyz	I also seem to lose a big chunk of klipper history	Oct 22 13:22
schestowitz	klipper takes up a lot of RAM sometimes	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	I stopped using it	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	it's good every now and then	Oct 22 13:23
schestowitz	but usually not worth the toll on the system	Oct 22 13:23
cubexyz	that must be a recent development...	Oct 22 13:24
cubexyz	I'm running klipper 24/7 on my 512 meg box, but on KDE 3.5.10	Oct 22 13:24
cubexyz	htop says 2.3% MEM for klipper	Oct 22 13:25
cubexyz	I have to kill firefox several times per day though	Oct 22 13:26
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XRevan86	DaemonFC:	Oct 22 13:37
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XRevan86	Russian Federation also has a Constitution that forbids all that stuff. But the constitutional court manages to interpret the Constitution in a way that allows the government to do whatever.	Oct 22 13:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: Yes laws are only as good as the enforcement.	Oct 22 13:48
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-10-weirdest-driving-laws-in-the-world/ I do like number 8. Now really with highway speeds putting that one off would be insanity.	Oct 22 13:55
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XRevan86	oiaohm: Heh. Sounds like woman drivers can pull off a socialist rally without having to sanction anything in New Orleans :-).	Oct 22 14:03
XRevan86	Dirty cars are illegal? I guess that's why clean cars attract my attention as something out of the ordinary.	Oct 22 14:04
oiaohm	XRevan86: there is a long long list of never enforced laws.	Oct 22 14:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://askanthony.weebly.com/australian-witchcraft-laws.html you find very stupid ones. Like Australian Constitution of 1901 made it against the law to make laws against religions and Queensland in the same country make a law in 1931 against a particular religion that is basically not enforceable. Only took almost 70 years to be re-plead and fixed.	Oct 22 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/922085484079312899	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 14:40
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 22 14:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922095159281639424	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	#Purism #Librem 5 Linux Smartphone Campaign Set To End At	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	Around $2 Million	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v3burwJpwZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:42
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 22 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922095690225942528	Oct 22 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu: Mir running on #Fedora and #Ubuntu 17.10 Guidance	Oct 22 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zd4aH5yxIp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922096252627628033	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Kernel and #Graphics: #ZenStates, #AMDGPU, #RADV,	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Vulkan, #NVIDIA	Oct 22 14:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RFYS0tBRNv (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Oct 22 14:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922097162703564800	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 14:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @Beezel_Bug favourited 'Debian: pk4, Freexian and More https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH #debian...'		Oct 22 14:49
*TweetTuxMachines @Comatose_D favourited 'Debian: pk4, Freexian and More https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH #debian...'		Oct 22 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922097748324777985	Oct 22 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	#Security Leftovers	Oct 22 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LchNRPpNKu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922098785605517312	Oct 22 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Oct 22 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0qGQP6gA3U (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw	Oct 22 15:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922103917260963840	Oct 22 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Oct 22 15:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/0qGQP6gA3U (www.tuxmachines.org) #freesw	Oct 22 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922106881388183552	Oct 22 15:34
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Security Leftovers	Oct 22 15:34
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LchNRPpNKu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 15:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922108937796759554	Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 22 15:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922110787942076416	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Kernel and #Graphics: #ZenStates, #AMDGPU, #RADV,	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #Vulkan, #NVIDIA	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RFYS0tBRNv (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Oct 22 15:43
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 22 15:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922112967637917696	Oct 22 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu: Mir running on #Fedora and #Ubuntu 17.10 Guidance	Oct 22 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/zd4aH5yxIp (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922114012204228608	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Purism #Librem 5 Linux Smartphone Campaign Set To End At	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Around $2 Million	Oct 22 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v3burwJpwZ (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 22 16:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/922122932670918656	Oct 22 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Debian: pk4, Freexian and More	Oct 22 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/LYs4gF1yEH (www.tuxmachines.org) #debian	Oct 22 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Oct 22 17:08
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/baDUi	Oct 22 17:21
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MinceR	http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1651	Oct 22 17:46
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/5jaoR	Oct 22 17:54
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/tM8tJQJ.gifv	Oct 22 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922142358560493568	Oct 22 18:52
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Oct 22 18:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/E9OsLEqiCg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 18:52
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DaemonFC	Hmm, GNOME Web isn't the most efficient browser.	Oct 22 18:58
DaemonFC	Uses sa lot of CPU time on certain sites.	Oct 22 18:58
MinceR	no browser that support javascript is going to be efficient	Oct 22 19:00
DaemonFC	MinceR, And that was before this bittorrent miner malware.	Oct 22 19:04
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/gGgw0	Oct 22 19:50
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cubexyz	well, someone added two A Records to my domain name	Oct 22 19:55
cubexyz	very odd	Oct 22 19:55
cubexyz	the numeric ip is from Burlington MA USA	Oct 22 19:59
cubexyz	also my tk domain name went bye-bye	Oct 22 20:00
cubexyz	schestowitz warned me not to use the tk domain	Oct 22 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922162291264643077	Oct 22 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Oct 22 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/E9OsLEqiCg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 20:03
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cubexyz	I told my registrar about it	Oct 22 20:04
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/xSLCt	Oct 22 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/922183519291564038	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #LXQt 0.12.0 Desktop Environment Released with Better	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@fcassia Support for HiDPI Displays	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T0f4FDD4wB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux #qt	Oct 22 20:31
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lTYPvArbGo	Oct 22 20:34
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/J7Q3L	Oct 22 20:41
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schestowitz	MinceR: is it really her?	Oct 22 20:44
MinceR	i guess	Oct 22 20:44
schestowitz	looks like it	Oct 22 20:44
schestowitz	became famous for creepiness	Oct 22 20:44
MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzk-l8Gm0MY	Oct 22 20:46
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DaemonFC	Those TK domains are "free". What's the catch?	Oct 22 20:47
cubexyz	they disappear	Oct 22 20:47
cubexyz	if you go to my tk domain it just shows ads	Oct 22 20:48
DaemonFC	http://cubeman.org/	Oct 22 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubeman.org \| Mark Longridge's Domain of the Cube, Specialist in Cubes, Video Games and Math		Oct 22 20:53
DaemonFC	Holy 1997 Geocities, Batman!	Oct 22 20:53
DaemonFC	I'm making a bunch of mp3s.	Oct 22 20:57
DaemonFC	FLAC cuts the file size to about half of CDDA, but the files are still enormous. 25-30 MB each. That makes it interesting for archival quality, but not so much if you want to store a lot of them or take them with you.	Oct 22 20:58
DaemonFC	I noticed that there's a lot of FOSS codecs for Apple Lossless, but I can't see any reason to use it. I compared them at one point and found that Apple Lossless files were usually between 5-8% larger than FLAC.	Oct 22 20:59
DaemonFC	I see a lot of people recommending ALAC simply because it's "what Apple uses".	Oct 22 21:05
DaemonFC	Over time, the inefficiency of ALAC adds up and starts costing you some real storage space.	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	>Cubes, Video Games	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	so, Sauerbraten and Tesseract? :>	Oct 22 21:06
MinceR	maybe some Inexor and AssaultCube too? :>	Oct 22 21:06
DaemonFC	I don't think Fedora packages Sauerbraten.	Oct 22 21:07
DaemonFC	The game engine is FOSS but the game content is only redistributable.	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	there's no need for the distro maintainers to package games	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	they tend to be portable	Oct 22 21:07
DaemonFC	Yeah, unpacking the archive that you get from upstream works.	Oct 22 21:07
MinceR	even if my libc was too old for xonotic on my previous system, building from git was easy	Oct 22 21:08
DaemonFC	Fedora's glibc is never old.	Oct 22 21:08
DaemonFC	Each release tends to ship with the latest version.	Oct 22 21:09
DaemonFC	Unless there's a serious problem with it.	Oct 22 21:09
MinceR	my version was not the latest	Oct 22 21:09
MinceR	it was the final stable release debian will ever make	Oct 22 21:09
cubexyz	I have assaultcube but hardly ever play it	Oct 22 21:10
DaemonFC	Debian is too much of a hassle.	Oct 22 21:10
cubexyz	I play a lot of HOMM3	Oct 22 21:11
DaemonFC	Things that just work on other distributions don't on Debian and you're like "Why do I have to stop and fix this?".	Oct 22 21:11
DaemonFC	Linus Torvalds mentioned that he tried to install Debian once and someone asked if he was successful, and he said no.	Oct 22 21:11
MinceR	all of systemd/Linux is too much of a hassle	Oct 22 21:11
cubexyz	legend of grimrock looks interesting	Oct 22 21:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, Basically, the situation we have for unauthorized copying on Bittorrent in the US right now is a mess.	Oct 22 21:14
cubexyz	not big on first person shooters though	Oct 22 21:14
gde33	I think the technical term is "Corrupted"	Oct 22 21:14
DaemonFC	There are law firms that go to copyright holders, mostly porn and bands that haven't produced an album in years.	Oct 22 21:14
DaemonFC	They offer to "monitor" the files on bittorrent and then send out "Pay up or else" letters to people who download them.	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	Then they offer half of whatever they collect to the copyright holder.	Oct 22 21:15
cubexyz	great scam	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	Comcast and some other ISPs strip out the demand and just say "We got a complaint. Too many of these and you may lose your Comcast internet account.".	Oct 22 21:15
DaemonFC	cubexyz, The copyright troll doesn't necessarily know who you are.	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	Most ISPs now have a policy of not telling them unless a court orders the ISP to unmask you.	Oct 22 21:16
gde33	the vpn is not helping?	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	gde33, Oh, it is. I haven't gotten any letters since I started using it.	Oct 22 21:16
cubexyz	I've never got a letter like that, but I'm in Canada	Oct 22 21:16
DaemonFC	There was one famous incident called Prenda Law.	Oct 22 21:17
DaemonFC	They were based in Chicago.	Oct 22 21:17
gde33	I was trying to look you up on https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/ but then hit the vpn :P	Oct 22 21:17
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DaemonFC	A federal judge called them a "porno supertroll" and said they operate like a "conspiracy" and a "racket".	Oct 22 21:17
DaemonFC	What would happen is they'd upload porn to Bittorrent and then offer to "settle" for $4,000 to anyone who downloaded it.	Oct 22 21:17
gde33	its my favorite torrent website	Oct 22 21:18
DaemonFC	So, I was reading this article. Some guy who had downloaded a ton of porn and ignored all the letters from Prenda had the guy who was running Prenda show up to his front door.	Oct 22 21:18
DaemonFC	In the middle of the night.	Oct 22 21:18
cubexyz	I bet that site is bogus	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	He handed him a business card and a letter saying that Prenda had caught him downloading a bunch of porn and the card said "Call this guy, he can help!".	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	So, like an idiot, the guy calls the number on the card.	Oct 22 21:19
cubexyz	how could they monitor everybody...	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Starts talking to the guy on the card, who turned out to be working at Prenda.	Oct 22 21:19
DaemonFC	Before he caught on, he told them that he was a nursing student and that he downloaded the porn (admission of guilt!) and he didn't know what to do and a bunch of other stuff.	Oct 22 21:20
gde33	lol	Oct 22 21:20
DaemonFC	Porno trolls uploading their own material and then sending legal letters to people who download it is not rare.	Oct 22 21:21
DaemonFC	X-Art does it.	Oct 22 21:21
gde33	And I was hoping for the story to evolve something like, then he pushed the guy over his mercedes, pulled down his pants and said "I'm not gay but I'm taking one for the team!"	Oct 22 21:21
DaemonFC	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-30/prenda-law-the-porn-copyright-trolls	Oct 22 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Prenda Law, the Porn Copyright Trolls - Bloomberg		Oct 22 21:21
gde33	then in court he said, but he rang at my door in the middle of the night to talk about porn? what else was I to do?	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	What I can't figure out is....there's porn all over the internet.	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	Why not just right-click "Save As" and not use Bittorrent at all?	Oct 22 21:22
DaemonFC	Are these people fucking stupid?	Oct 22 21:22
gde33	a little known fact, (not sure if it is still the case) if you log into piratebay you get access to the adult content, it pretty much has everything on it from what I hear.	Oct 22 21:23
DaemonFC	Well, the guy who actually called a number on the back of a card from a shadowy figure that appeared in the middle of the night was...	Oct 22 21:23
DaemonFC	gde33, They changed that.	Oct 22 21:24
gde33	ah ok	Oct 22 21:24
DaemonFC	You can see all the porn on TPB without being logged in.	Oct 22 21:24
gde33	I never see it	Oct 22 21:24
DaemonFC	It shows up for me whenever I just view recent uploads.	Oct 22 21:25
gde33	downloading porn over torrents is a terrible idea as the porn industry has everything from high end lawyers, tricksters, hackers to goons	Oct 22 21:25
DaemonFC	I wouldn't recommend downloading it even through a VPN or anything because 90%+ of the file sharing lawsuits are porn-related because they're not exactly worried about maintaining a good image.	Oct 22 21:26
MinceR	cubexyz: the ones i listed use some version of the Cube engine though :>	Oct 22 21:26
DaemonFC	At least if you get a letter from HBO, it's basically "We know what you did. Stop it!". Not "Give us $5,000 or else!".	Oct 22 21:26
gde33	those are probably the lucky ones, you dont want to mess with human trafficers	Oct 22 21:26
MinceR	cubexyz: though the best fps i'm aware of, Xonotic, uses the DarkPlaces engine instead :>	Oct 22 21:27
gde33	to take a clue from 1984, if they make downloading propaganda movies illegal people will want them	Oct 22 21:29
gde33	for credit card fraud the government will obviously show up at your door much faster	Oct 22 21:30
gde33	but why have different systems for different types of illegal behavior online?	Oct 22 21:31
gde33	if they can have you watching some stupid entertainment - they have you	Oct 22 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Purism disables Intel's flawed Management Engine on	Oct 22 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/u2MaGCduZZ	Oct 22 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux #android	Oct 22 21:44
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DaemonFC	https://www.techworm.net/2017/08/biglybt-new-open-source-torrent-client-launched-former-vuze-developers.html	Oct 22 22:00
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DaemonFC	Nice. I saw a BiglyBT useragent in my peers list and I was "WTF is that!?".	Oct 22 22:00
DaemonFC	It's a fork of Azureus/Vuze with just the GPL'd bits.	Oct 22 22:01
DaemonFC	“Our main goals for BiglyBT is to keep it ad-free and open source, and to continue to develop it into an even better torrent client. We also hope that a community will form again around the product.”	Oct 22 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pros_P33/status/922202598987501570	Oct 22 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@Pros_P33 (www.tuxmachines.org) #google #linux #android	Oct 22 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922206448628785154	Oct 22 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	A look at Ubuntu 17.10 Artful	Oct 22 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Aardvarkhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/105865	Oct 22 22:04
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: Big league!	Oct 22 22:08
DaemonFC	schestowitz, It's available for "Linux/UNIX" as long as you have GTK+ and java-headless.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	Can't think of a reason to use it though.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	QBittorrent does a fine job.	Oct 22 22:11
DaemonFC	The Gnutella network is basically dead at this point. I can't seem to make GTK-Gnutella download anything and the user interface is terrible.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	Frostwire dropped support for Gnutella a long time ago and became just another Bittorrent client.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	Sad to see the lack of diversity.	Oct 22 22:13
DaemonFC	More networks = Harder for anti-p2p entities to operate.	Oct 22 22:14
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, Thoughts on the free Hotspot Shield Firefox extension?	Oct 22 23:06
DaemonFC	I see you can use it to browse through a VPN through the system VPN.	Oct 22 23:06
DaemonFC	Oh, I see where they get you.	Oct 22 23:11
DaemonFC	They inject ads into the browser and paywall Netflix and Hulu.	Oct 22 23:12
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 22 23:13
DaemonFC	Someone got a picture of Trump's son getting lemonade out of the free water cup at in-and-out burger.	Oct 22 23:13
DaemonFC	Fucking rich people....	Oct 22 23:13
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DaemonFC	"Looks like some legally safe knockoff of an 80s horror movie." :)	Oct 23 00:32
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWqTKQ4a0Q	Oct 23 00:33
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oiaohm	https://torrentfreak.com/tech-giants-warn-kodi-scapegoating-171022/ Interesting.	Oct 23 01:17
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qDBAZcWubE	Oct 23 01:37
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XRevan86	MinceR: Everything hangs down there	Oct 23 02:16
MinceR	that's what she said.	Oct 23 02:20
XRevan86	I did not see that coming.	Oct 23 02:20
MinceR	that's also what she said.	Oct 23 02:20
XRevan86	That I saw coming :).	Oct 23 02:20
MinceR	:)	Oct 23 02:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Librem 5 Linux Phone to Include Nextcloud's End-to-End	Oct 23 07:56
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TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK	Oct 23 07:57
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TweetTuxMachines	Galaxy on Desktop/DeX	Oct 23 08:33
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/AwxvB	Oct 23 18:47
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DaemonFC	"It was kind of a trade. Cronus gave us his ship and.....he got what was coming to him."	Oct 23 19:01
DaemonFC	^ MinceR	Oct 23 19:01
MinceR	:>	Oct 23 19:01
DaemonFC	Watching through SG-1 again.	Oct 23 19:01
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/MGFj4Ml.jpg	Oct 23 19:05
DaemonFC	It's been nasty and raining the last two days.	Oct 23 19:08
DaemonFC	I went looking for something to eat yesterday and decided to use a Subway coupon. Still kind of wishing I hadn't.	Oct 23 19:08
DaemonFC	They had this "Autumn Carved Turkey" sub that sounded good until I actually ate it.	Oct 23 19:09
DaemonFC	I don't know what happened. I think it might be "Food Babe" continuing to fuck up food that she doesn't eat.	Oct 23 19:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, She gets people to call in and troll the 800 numbers for these companies demanding that an ingredient they can't pronounce be removed, because not being able to pronounce something means it causes cancer.	Oct 23 19:10
DaemonFC	Then when the company panics and makes their food worse or more expensive or both, there's another ingredient that the idiots can't pronounce.	Oct 23 19:11
DaemonFC	This is what happens when you have the most "educated" generation ever, but they all took Feminist Studies, so....	Oct 23 19:12
MinceR	maybe they should give ingredients new names	Oct 23 19:13
DaemonFC	MinceR, Yeah, like instead of Azodicarbonamide, they could call it "Happy Happy No Cancer Funtime!".	Oct 23 19:14
DaemonFC	It's only really condescension if the person you're talking down to is capable of communicating on a higher level, right?	Oct 23 19:15
MinceR	or "goo goo ga ga"	Oct 23 19:15
DaemonFC	MinceR, Every relevant food health agency has it as an approved ingredient. It's not just the US FDA.	Oct 23 19:16
DaemonFC	It has an E number, for example.	Oct 23 19:16
DaemonFC	That doesn't mean anything to them though. Instead of being an FDA conspiracy it's now a worldwide conspiracy to sterilize your testicles.	Oct 23 19:17
MinceR	they believe that if it has an E number, it's evil	Oct 23 19:17
MinceR	maybe they should be saved from the evil E948.	Oct 23 19:18
DaemonFC	MinceR, They actually say the government is putting stuff in our food to cause infertility. If that's the case, then why are all the poor people who live off ramen noodles having like 5 kids?	Oct 23 19:18
DaemonFC	If there was a targeted infertility campaign, shouldn't it be going after people who either live off the government or don't pay enough in taxes?	Oct 23 19:18
MinceR	yeah	Oct 23 19:18
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Snowden @amnesty Turkey is a lost cause. Almost.'		Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	MinceR, So, this tax reform bill was going to raise taxes o people with a lot of kids and then they screamed so the child tax credit is being EXPANDED.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	Like, that's just what we need.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	The child tax credit is sort of like the Nazi marriage loan.	Oct 23 19:20
DaemonFC	The tax system doles out unearned money to people who get married and have kids from people who didn't.	Oct 23 19:21
DaemonFC	Only, it's giving them back thousands per year more than they paid.	Oct 23 19:22
DaemonFC	Turning the IRS into the biggest welfare program in the nation.	Oct 23 19:22
DaemonFC	And nobody will admit it because the majority are on the dole and telling the rest to work harder or join them on the dole.	Oct 23 19:23
DaemonFC	MinceR, Before the 1980s, people were claiming like 4-5+ kids that they didn't even have.	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	Then the tax reform bill started requiring social security numbers of every dependent claimed.	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	The next year, 7 million children vanished. :)	Oct 23 19:24
DaemonFC	MinceR, It also made sure that parents got their kids Social Security numbers.	Oct 23 19:25
DaemonFC	There's no law saying that you have to have an SSN, but if your parents get one for you, you can never get rid of it.	Oct 23 19:26
DaemonFC	So your parents sign you up for one so they can get the child tax credit for the next 18 years and then you have one for life.	Oct 23 19:26
DaemonFC	I suppose it doesn't really matter much.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	Without one, you can't do very much.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	The original setup said the number was just to track your wages and social program taxes so they would know how much to pay you later when you claimed benefits.	Oct 23 19:27
DaemonFC	The card said "Not for identification.".	Oct 23 19:28
DaemonFC	Now you can't get a Comcast internet account if you don't have one.	Oct 23 19:28
DaemonFC	MinceR, The numbering scheme was designed about 80 years ago, so obviously there's no security in a social security number.	Oct 23 19:29
DaemonFC	You can apply to get one changed, but it's a hassle and it's almost always denied unless you can prove that you're constantly a victim of fraud.	Oct 23 19:29
DaemonFC	The government should redo the system like those EMV credit cards, where you get one time codes for each credit check or whatever and then it never works again.	Oct 23 19:30
DaemonFC	But it's the government, so yeah.	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	It's taken them since 1965 to finally realize that putting your Social Security Number on your Medicare card is a bad idea.	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	B-)	Oct 23 19:31
DaemonFC	And that's only because the Medicare program is in deep shit thanks to fake billing.	Oct 23 19:32
DaemonFC	Like, a doctor will round up a bunch of Medicare numbers and then submit bills to the government claiming he's treating them all for AIDS or cancer or something	Oct 23 19:33
DaemonFC	Then by the time the government notices, he's gotten like $80 million out of them.	Oct 23 19:33
DaemonFC	Stock market is down. Seems to be because GE is falling apart.	Oct 23 19:35
DaemonFC	MinceR, Think they're going to get another bailout?	Oct 23 19:35
MinceR	what's up with GE?	Oct 23 19:36
DaemonFC	Earnings are way down.	Oct 23 19:37
DaemonFC	Investors are worried they'll cut their dividend.	Oct 23 19:37
DaemonFC	MinceR, Their financial operation is way bigger than their manufacturing operation.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	They're described as a bank that makes refrigerators now.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	They're sitting on top of a bunch of shitty high interest loans.	Oct 23 19:39
DaemonFC	Like store credit cards and "Care Credit", where people finance medical expenses at like 26% interest. :P	Oct 23 19:40
MinceR	strange, they got rid of Budapest Bank 2 years ago	Oct 23 19:42
DaemonFC	MinceR, They mostly target Care Credit at things that insurance doesn't cover. Like dental and lasik eye surgery.	Oct 23 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922533460086018048	Oct 23 19:44
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TweetTuxMachines	GIMP, More Awesome Than I Remember	Oct 23 19:45
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DaemonFC	MinceR, The messed up thing about Care Credit are the deferred interest offers.	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	Like "No interest if you pay in 24 months.".	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	But if you owe anything after that, it goes back and calculates interest on your daily balance and adds it to your total amount owed.	Oct 23 19:45
DaemonFC	They know that people will use it and think "Oh, two years is a long time." and then it goes into the pile of bills and they're just making the minimum payments.	Oct 23 19:46
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DaemonFC	http://creditcardforum.com/blog/ge-care-credit-card/	Oct 23 19:49
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DaemonFC	"My roommate had some cavities he needed to get filled and according to him, the dentist purportedly told him he had to do a credit check. In actuality it was far more than a credit check… a Care Credit Card arrived in the mail a few days later! My roommate was shocked, as he wasn’t aware he was applying for a credit card."	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922534331016536069	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	What Will the Ubuntu 18.04 Name ‘B’?	Oct 23 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ycfMFZ3DQD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:50
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DaemonFC	I don't suppose he bothered to ask why the dentist had to do a credit check if he was paying at the office before he left.....	Oct 23 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| What Will the Ubuntu 18.04 Name ‘B’? \| Tux Machines		Oct 23 19:51
MinceR	Who Cares What It Will 'B'?	Oct 23 19:51
MinceR	just another Lendows release	Oct 23 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922535653635710976	Oct 23 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Certified System Administrator: Gabriel	Oct 23 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Rojo Argote https://t.co/sIS8LWYZCA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922536128615538688	Oct 23 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/Md3sBysuLz	Oct 23 19:53
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Dentists don't like to tell you what the price is, but they will if you insist.	Oct 23 19:54
DaemonFC	Also, you can call around and ask if you get a discount for not having insurance. Most do that to attract customers that can go anywhere because they don't have a "network" or an insurance plan that must pay.	Oct 23 19:55
*TweetTuxMachines @sopanx favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Linux OS Patched Against WPA2 KRACK...'		Oct 23 19:55
DaemonFC	It's pretty typical to get a 10-15% discount off the list price for a service by paying in cash. And they usually won't give that to you if you use Care Credit.	Oct 23 19:55
MinceR	https://9gag.com/gag/aY4PGmq	Oct 23 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Orcs with Sporks. - 9GAG		Oct 23 19:56
DaemonFC	MinceR, But there are dental insurance companies that sell "dental discounts" that are not insurance.	Oct 23 19:57
DaemonFC	What it is, is you hand the dentist the card and you get his network discount rate.	Oct 23 19:58
DaemonFC	So you're paying to get a discount from an insurance company that you could have gotten without the discount card if you had asked and gotten the cash discount. :D	Oct 23 19:58
DaemonFC	Insurance is really confusing and it's set up like a casino.	Oct 23 19:59
DaemonFC	The house always wins.	Oct 23 19:59
DaemonFC	MinceR, So I was reading about Google's Go! programming language.	Oct 23 20:01
DaemonFC	Turned out there was already a "Go" programming language. The guy who wrote it filed a bug with Google asking them to change their name and Google just said "Gee, that's unfortunate.".	Oct 23 20:02
MinceR	:>	Oct 23 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	PC-MOS/386 is the latest obsolete operating system to	Oct 23 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	open source on Github https://t.co/fvFdJFY3WP	Oct 23 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.13.9 https://t.co/1qalxnnAHB	Oct 23 20:04
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/bVS11nN.jpg	Oct 23 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922539216025866241	Oct 23 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 4.14-rc6 https://t.co/LiC2E0gm4v	Oct 23 20:15
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22713432_418647738537438_3315613225899792523_o.jpg?oh=0dfe27ab350ef8bbaa88b244a12aa0e9&oe=5A803999	Oct 23 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542024880021505	Oct 23 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation wants to do to data what it's done for	Oct 23 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	software https://t.co/pjp50aSjIN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:17
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 23 20:17
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MinceR	:>	Oct 23 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542459065917445	Oct 23 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	Best Alternatives To Photoshop On Linux	Oct 23 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GEZP6BrR0y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:19
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MinceR	http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/kimop-4.jpg	Oct 23 20:21
DaemonFC	MinceR, The Linux transcoding tools are not great. I ended up installing dbpoweramp into Wine.	Oct 23 20:23
DaemonFC	Transcodes using all your CPU cores and then copies the tag over.	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	i hardly ever transcode	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	I wonder why there isn't a program that can do that.	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	Well, the MP3s that you can download are 320k CBR.	Oct 23 20:24
DaemonFC	Wastes a lot of space, really.	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	i prefer FLAC	Oct 23 20:24
MinceR	but i have encoded some mp3s for my car 'radio'	Oct 23 20:25
DaemonFC	VBR is the way to go. If you really want 320k CBR, use VBR -V0 instead.	Oct 23 20:25
DaemonFC	At least that way the encoder can make the decision to use smaller frames if it doesn't need the largest size possible at the moment.	Oct 23 20:25
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/0gUy2hZ.gif	Oct 23 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922542870757863427	Oct 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	5 Most Beautiful Linux Desktop Environments	Oct 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kUbPAHSOaD (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 5 Most Beautiful Linux Desktop Environments \| Tux Machines		Oct 23 20:27
DaemonFC	MinceR, There's also the Nero AAC codec if you don't mind that it's proprietary.	Oct 23 20:27
DaemonFC	It's self-contained and a native Linux program.	Oct 23 20:27
MinceR	i have yet to see the need for AAC	Oct 23 20:28
DaemonFC	So it shouldn't ever just "stop working".	Oct 23 20:28
MinceR	but it will, once one of its dependencies becomes binary incompatible or unavailable :>	Oct 23 20:30
DaemonFC	MinceR, It's just one file.	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922546164561522689	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Singularity: Escalation, ASTROKILL and More	Oct 23 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6nhRC4Jgkn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 20:35
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MinceR	DaemonFC: all statically linked?	Oct 23 20:35
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/vJx7B	Oct 23 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who said donkeys weren't smart ? ???? - Album on Imgur		Oct 23 20:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/meowzzzzzzzzz/status/922546949139632128	Oct 23 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games: Singularity: Escalation, ASTROKILL and More	Oct 23 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@meowzzzzzzzzz https://t.co/6nhRC4Jgkn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 23 21:00
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DaemonFC	MinceR, Yeah. Nero doesn't maintain it anymore, but it still works.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	I think the best choice for FOSS AAC encoder is the one that ships with ffmpeg.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	But the quality is still not great.	Oct 23 21:10
DaemonFC	Nero and Apple are widely regarded to have the best encoders in terms of quality of the resulting file.	Oct 23 21:11
DaemonFC	Obviously, Apple's is much harder to use on Linux because you need to install iTunes into Wine. But the good news is you don't need to use iTunes after you install it.	Oct 23 21:11
DaemonFC	foobar2000's "Free encoders pack" has a stub that will use the AAC encoder from iTunes if it's installed.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	Obviously, this is a gross hack, especially on Linux as it requires two Windows programs installed in Wine.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	So the better of the two options is Nero's native Linux encoder.	Oct 23 21:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, The good news is that FAAD2 (the decoder) is under the GPL. So once you have the files you don't need any proprietary software to play them back.	Oct 23 21:13
DaemonFC	The bad news is that FAAD2 is patent-encumbered, so you'll need to get it from.....somewhere, like RPM Fusion.	Oct 23 21:13
DaemonFC	MP3 is in the public domain now, so nobody can sue over usage of the format, or providing a user with a binary mp3 implementation.	Oct 23 21:16
DaemonFC	That solves the big problem of Ogg Vorbis. That you had to go out of your way to find something that actually played it.	Oct 23 21:16
DaemonFC	MinceR, For a while, when you tried playing an MP3 in Fedora, it opened a window that explained that MP3 was patent-encumbered and suggested installing Fluendo-MP3.	Oct 23 21:21
oiaohm	DaemonFC: 5.1 channel Mp3 is still patented but its not like many people have those files.	Oct 23 21:21
DaemonFC	The source code for that was under the MIT license, but the binary that Fluendo compiled was the only way you could get a patent license to use the decoder.	Oct 23 21:21
DaemonFC	oiaohm, You mean from the MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard?	Oct 23 21:22
DaemonFC	Yeah, almost all MP3s are 2 channel under MPEG 1 Layer III.	Oct 23 21:22
DaemonFC	The MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard is one of the options for making a DVD with surround sound.	Oct 23 21:23
DaemonFC	But most of them actually use AC3, iirc.	Oct 23 21:23
DaemonFC	Thaat's public domain now, I think.	Oct 23 21:24
DaemonFC	Yes, the last AC-3 patent expired on March 20, 2017.	Oct 23 21:25
DaemonFC	Nice.	Oct 23 21:25
oiaohm	MPEG 2.5 Layer III standard patents on that expire some time after 2020.	Oct 23 21:25
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video#Audio_data DVD standard no Mp3.	Oct 23 21:29
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DaemonFC	Well, can LAME encode those? Fedora is shipping LAME now.	Oct 23 21:29
DaemonFC	https://documentation.apple.com/en/dvdstudiopro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=5%26section=3%26tasks=true	Oct 23 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-documentation.apple.com \| DVD Studio Pro 4 User Manual		Oct 23 21:30
DaemonFC	Ahh, it's MP2 that is an option on DVD.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	You can make those with TooLAME.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	Mike Cheng started TooLAME out of fear that FhG would start imposing royalties to use MP3.	Oct 23 21:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically finding MPEG 2.5 Layer III stuff is a rare.	Oct 23 21:31
DaemonFC	So it was a backport of some of the psy model and other stuff to layer II.	Oct 23 21:32
DaemonFC	I think the psy model for TooLAME is based on gpsycho, not npsytune.	Oct 23 21:33
oiaohm	The other thing is MPEG 2.5 Layer III never made it into any formal standards. As most people by that port had got a lot more careful about patents and standars.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	LAME switched the default psy model for VBR in 3.98, I think.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	The old one is still available if you want to pass a switch to the encoder, but I don't know why you would.	Oct 23 21:33
DaemonFC	http://listening-test.coresv.net/results.htm	Oct 23 21:36
oiaohm	AAC is in different levels of expired from patents.	Oct 23 21:36
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DaemonFC	There's exactly why you don't want to use FAAC (other than not being FOSS, I mean)	Oct 23 21:36
schestowitz	l flashplugin-installer gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin	Oct 23 21:40
schestowitz	initramfs-tools-core libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libicu55 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libmysqlclient20 libpam-systemd	Oct 23 21:40
schestowitz	libsystemd0 libudev1 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 mysql-common systemd systemd-sysv udev wpasupplicant xserver-common xserver-xephyr	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	xserver-xorg-core	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	24 to upgrade, 0 to ne	Oct 23 21:41
schestowitz	so system-d infested here	Oct 23 21:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=AAC_encoders its kinda explained when you look at the features implemented in the ACC.	Oct 23 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.hydrogenaud.io \| AAC encoders - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase		Oct 23 21:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: opps AAC	Oct 23 21:41
DaemonFC	I have no idea why Nero is still in business.	Oct 23 21:49
DaemonFC	Their flagship product is no longer truly relevant.	Oct 23 21:49
DaemonFC	Fewer people use optical discs for anything and if you want to copy Blu Ray movies onto a backup you'd need something like Slysoft AnyDVD HD anyway, not Nero.	Oct 23 21:50
DaemonFC	I personally let Windows users who have a copy of that do the job for me.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	If they're the ones using proprietary software, that's too bad for them.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	I don't need any to play the file that I get, so oh well.	Oct 23 21:51
DaemonFC	I mostly go for h265 files if I can these days.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	Back in the day, there was divx and then the scene started to switch to h264 with lots of complaints.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	Not from me though. divx quality was really crap. The ASP codecs never panned out like some had hoped they would.	Oct 23 21:52
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Those ads for "PC tune up" software are back on late night TV.	Oct 23 21:54
DaemonFC	I called the 800 number for one of those several years ago and streamed myself trolling the guy on the phone.	Oct 23 21:54
DaemonFC	http://www.nero.com/enu/products/nero-recode/?vlang=us	Oct 23 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nero Recode 2018 - Rip and convert		Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	*Only for non-copy protected media.	Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	Haha.	Oct 23 21:56
DaemonFC	Right. Like why would there be a mass market for that?	Oct 23 21:57
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Worse than VMWare.	Oct 23 21:57
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Flash Plugin? Why?	Oct 23 21:58
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm re-ripping a bunch of MP3s that I got forever ago.	Oct 23 22:00
DaemonFC	Just never got around to them. Some of them are from Napster.	Oct 23 22:00
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Low-Complexity profile (AAC-LC / LC-AAC), Main profile (AAC Main) and Scalable Sampling Rate profile (AAC-SSR). Those were 1997 and should have come patent end of life.	Oct 23 22:00
DaemonFC	Liking the new rips much better obviously.	Oct 23 22:01
DaemonFC	oiaohm, LC is the only profile worth using.	Oct 23 22:01
DaemonFC	HE-AAC is shit.	Oct 23 22:01
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/Vc9Ia	Oct 23 22:01
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DaemonFC	Use HE-AAC if you want your list of playback options to go WAY down.	Oct 23 22:02
MinceR	High Explosive Advanced Audio Codec?	Oct 23 22:02
DaemonFC	I know Nero lets you encode to HE-AAC at any bitrate, but what's the point?	Oct 23 22:02
MinceR	i guess crApple uses that one	Oct 23 22:02
DaemonFC	The features that supposedly make it worth using only apply to low bitrates.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, if you try playing HE-AAC on a player that only supports LC then only the LC part will play.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	So the audio will sound much worse than if you had used LC to begin with.	Oct 23 22:03
DaemonFC	It never really caught on, MinceR.	Oct 23 22:04
DaemonFC	Opus exceeds everything that HE-AAC was trying to do.	Oct 23 22:04
DaemonFC	MinceR, "High Efficiency".	Oct 23 22:05
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_band_replication	Oct 23 22:05
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MinceR	ic	Oct 23 22:06
DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/audio/comments/2ds4vi/mp3_320_v0_and_flac/	Oct 23 22:06
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DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	"Anything below $400 sounds about the same."	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	Anyone who spends $400 for headphones is a giant douche.	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, They had a "mobile Best Buy" at the San Antonio airport.	Oct 23 22:07
DaemonFC	It was a vending machine with Beats and Bose and all that stuff.	Oct 23 22:07
MinceR	lol	Oct 23 22:07
MinceR	No Highs, No Lows... Gotta Be Bose®	Oct 23 22:08
DaemonFC	I told John "I wonder what happens when you put $500 in it and your headphones get stuck in the machine."	Oct 23 22:08
MinceR	and beats is just crApple	Oct 23 22:08
DaemonFC	MinceR, I have no idea who buys "Earpods". $300 so it can sound worse than a $10 pair of folding headphones from Sony?	Oct 23 22:09
MinceR	crApple drones.	Oct 23 22:09
MinceR	there's way to many of those	Oct 23 22:10
MinceR	s/to/too/	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	MinceR, Then you have to charge them because they use Bluetooth.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Then the built-in battery eventually dies and you throw them away.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Bluetooth isn't exactly hi-fi or reliable either.	Oct 23 22:10
DaemonFC	Never had it work reliably on anything. Always end up using an audio cable anyway.	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/oaJaVDM.gif	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	it also isn't secure	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	i'm glad they finally figured out how to make headsets compatible with mobile phones in general	Oct 23 22:11
MinceR	both my Audio Technica and Steelseries headsets work fine with my phone	Oct 23 22:12
DaemonFC	http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=MP3packer	Oct 23 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.hydrogenaud.io \| MP3packer - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase		Oct 23 22:14
DaemonFC	If you have a bunch of CBR 320 files, it might be worth making a pass over them with MP3packer.	Oct 23 22:14
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: AAC-LD from 1999 that is the low latency version for real time encoding is also worth using.	Oct 23 22:33
oiaohm	DaemonFC: but that one is still a few year off before out of patents.	Oct 23 22:34
DaemonFC	MPEG-LA tried to poison the well for free codecs by saying they wouldn't assess licensing fees for MPEG-4 codecs on the web for a few years.	Oct 23 22:35
DaemonFC	Like a drug dealer giving out some free crack because they know you'll need more later.	Oct 23 22:36
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: MPEG-LA free playback codecs. Not free encode codecs.	Oct 23 22:47
oiaohm	DaemonFC: A playback codec without any means of encoding that format does have very limited usage.	Oct 23 22:48
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/H3WzmDY.gifv	Oct 23 22:54
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mmu_man	https://blog.cozycloud.cc/post/2017/10/23/CFP-FOSDEM-2018-Decentralized-Internet-Privacy :)	Oct 23 23:39
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Cold_Night	Oct 24 00:42
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DaemonFC	"The songs "Needles" and "Burrito" from this show were used as iTunes bonus track because the record company did not want obscenities on the retail version of the album."	Oct 24 00:42
DaemonFC	LOL	Oct 24 00:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/6nhRC4Jgkn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 01:23
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schestowitz	Thanks, mmu_man	Oct 24 01:32
schestowitz	he's gone	Oct 24 01:32
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Foundation wants to do to data what it's done for	Oct 24 01:52
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cubexyz	Fedora Core 1 was 2.4 and I researched it for a long time and I'm quite knowledgeable about it	Oct 24 13:46
cubexyz	when FC2 came out the kernel was switched to 2.6	Oct 24 13:46
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cubexyz	also it's a sort of a test, anything I write can be tested on that version of gcc on FC1	Oct 24 13:47
cubexyz	anyways, it's just the server and it does that well	Oct 24 13:50
cubexyz	installed redhat 8 on Feb 15th, 2003	Oct 24 13:56
cubexyz	installed FC1 on May 12th, 2004	Oct 24 13:56
cubexyz	and I was using Linux in 1994... but I'm sorry to say I didn't stick with it	Oct 24 13:58
cubexyz	the 1990's were sort of the dark ages of computing which I'd rather forget	Oct 24 13:59
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Roms, Recoveries and bootloaders – All you need	Oct 24 14:17
TweetTuxMachines	to know https://t.co/rCFQxwNlvo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/922814250208374784	Oct 24 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Ninite – Install Or Update Multiple Apps Together On	Oct 24 14:18
TweetTuxMachines	Windows https://t.co/RfmCG1nrni (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 14:18
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TweetTuxMachines	Radeon RX Vega 64: AMDGPU-PRO vs. DRM-Next + Mesa	Oct 24 14:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Teclast T10 Review: A 10-Inch Android Tablet For Under	Oct 24 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	$250	Oct 24 14:26
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TweetTuxMachines	Links 24/10/2017: GTK+ 3.92, ArchLabs 2017.10	Oct 24 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Kaspersky Code, FUD, WPA2, and	Oct 24 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation Messages to the Media	Oct 24 17:41
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schestowitz	http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2017/10/16/epo-all-problems-solved/	Oct 24 17:43
schestowitz	"Thorsten, it is indeed still possible that there is an “innocent” explanation. However, let me say that it is becoming increasingly hard to believe in such a version of events. I mean, are we to understand that it is merely coincidence that “technical” problems only affect one post, which post just happens to be on a topic previously affected by a moratorium on reporting?'	Oct 24 17:43
schestowitz	Haha	Oct 24 17:43
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schestowitz	Excuses for censorship	Oct 24 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	Beavering away at the brilliantly bionic 18.04 LTS	Oct 24 18:01
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MinceR	https://i.redd.it/jmdiiw22lstz.png	Oct 24 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922930820121268225	Oct 24 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux Foundation Messages to the Media	Oct 24 22:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922932448345726976	Oct 24 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Container OS Options and CoreOS Review	Oct 24 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922933143803482113	Oct 24 22:12
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Updates, Kaspersky Code, FUD, WPA2, and	Oct 24 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Crippling Crypto	Oct 24 22:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yQmCzvWVzr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 22:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/akaSassinak/status/922935056192110592	Oct 24 22:34
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Updates, Kaspersky Code, FUD, WPA2, and	Oct 24 22:34
TweetTuxMachines	@akaSassinak Crippling Crypto	Oct 24 22:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yQmCzvWVzr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 24 22:34
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/nm7uy	Oct 24 22:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/922939390128779265	Oct 24 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 24/10/2017: GTK+ 3.92, ArchLabs 2017.10	Oct 24 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/yONiY4WDsj (techrights.org)	Oct 24 23:44
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 25 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923092836983169024	Oct 25 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released!	Oct 25 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 08:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released! https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB...'		Oct 25 08:49
*TweetTuxMachines @kushaldas retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Qubes OS 4.0-rc2 has been released! https://t.co/YdWEssJuRB...'		Oct 25 08:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923094674486759425	Oct 25 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Leftovers	Oct 25 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sM8obkfgHv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 08:52
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 25 13:32
schestowitz	MinceR: very good	Oct 25 13:51
schestowitz	the "wanker" one is funny	Oct 25 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923169408771608576	Oct 25 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung adds more secure Artik models, and switches from	Oct 25 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora to Ubuntu https://t.co/wysqVXSFHJ	Oct 25 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923171707921354752	Oct 25 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Who's building Linux in 2017? https://t.co/WSaGaboUA5	Oct 25 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 25 14:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Who's building Linux in 2017? https://t.co/WSaGaboUA5'		Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	@conchezness https://twitter.com/conchezness/status/923175652865597440	Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How does one add content without access to	Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	online Metadata sites?	Oct 25 14:13
TweetTuxMachines		Oct 25 14:13
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 26 19:50
schestowitz	[18:47] <oiaohm> DaemonFC: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licensing.aspx this has made Microsoft over 1 billion dollars.	Oct 26 19:53
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schestowitz	where does this figure come from?	Oct 26 19:53
oiaohm	schestowitz: lost the link. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/11/01/microsoft-android-patent-income/#49095b105c6c this was the collected patent money grab in 2015 so for all patent actions then it was 6 billion+ dollars.	Oct 26 19:55
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oiaohm	schestowitz: I had more modern breakdown list.	Oct 26 19:55
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Well, I use exFAT on some SD cards. Not like there's an easy way around it. FAT32 is very old and doesn't scale well.	Oct 26 20:03
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DaemonFC	Besides, FAT32 over 32 GB is undefined on SD devices.	Oct 26 20:03
DaemonFC	Some work. Some don't. Some could corrupt your data.	Oct 26 20:03
DaemonFC	exFAT is officially undocumented, but Samsung licensed it and released an Android driver under the GPL using documentation from Microsoft, but that wouldn't protect you because it's Microsoft that has the patents, not Samsung.	Oct 26 20:06
DaemonFC	bbiab...I moved the car. Now to go find something for lunch.	Oct 26 20:06
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oiaohm	schestowitz: the known patents on exfat last one expires in 2027. So 10 more year of patent claims.	Oct 26 20:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923635171068440586	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	Latest Linux laptops: from open SBC spin-offs to Coffee	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	Lake conquerors	Oct 26 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ln38Y2BFXo (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 26 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923636115466260481	Oct 26 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Latest Linux laptops: from open SBC spin-offs to Coffee	Oct 26 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Lake conquerors	Oct 26 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ln38Y2BFXo (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Oct 26 20:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923639117182853121	Oct 26 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Oct 26 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/5Jt0Hzpj6k (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923641976376954880	Oct 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	Best Linux Distros For Gaming (Part 2)	Oct 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AcbzauWeqP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923642336122408960	Oct 26 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	SODIMM-style COM and dev board run Android 7.1.1 on a	Oct 26 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Snapdragon 820 https://t.co/Fl7VGDt1wt	Oct 26 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923642660170207232	Oct 26 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	DIN-rail IoT gateway builds on Raspberry Pi CM3	Oct 26 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wEkvHXF1Ya (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923644026267619329	Oct 26 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by SODIMM-style COM and dev board run Android 7.1.1 on a	Oct 26 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Snapdragon 820 https://t.co/Fl7VGDt1wt	Oct 26 21:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'DIN-rail IoT gateway builds on Raspberry Pi CM3...'		Oct 26 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923645762709413888	Oct 26 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with Linux	Oct 26 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel 4.15, GNOME 3.28 https://t.co/zAmqJJzOc2	Oct 26 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with...'		Oct 26 21:25
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with...'		Oct 26 21:26
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with...'		Oct 26 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/923648240364515329	Oct 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/6WY5pu9V5b	Oct 26 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/6WY5pu9V5b'		Oct 26 21:43
schestowitz	oiaohm: it's not about exfat	Oct 26 21:44
schestowitz	and these figures are speculated	Oct 26 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/sarveshgupta89/status/923651413988610048	Oct 26 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kernel/Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA and AMD	Oct 26 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	@sarveshgupta89 https://t.co/UZqeLHSbpl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 26 21:54
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DaemonFC	Fedora 27 isn't even out yet and the patchset against systemd 234 is now 101 patches.	Oct 26 22:20
DaemonFC	:)	Oct 26 22:20
DaemonFC	Instead of just upgrading to the latest systemd they backport bug fixes and entire features.	Oct 26 22:21
DaemonFC	So it becomes a chimera of several different versions.	Oct 26 22:21
DaemonFC	Man, they did a terrible job sweeping the street today.	Oct 26 22:23
DaemonFC	Left behind all sorts of crap.	Oct 26 22:23
DaemonFC	They should make two passes, really.	Oct 26 22:23
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 27 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923829422410620929	Oct 27 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Oct 27 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/TlouuoFAyY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:42
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*TweetTuxMachines @ZoZ_Youtube favourited '#Ubuntu, #Debian, #Fedora and #elementaryOS All Patched Against...'		Oct 27 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923833301261012993	Oct 27 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux kernel development shows no sign of slowing	Oct 27 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/aMfx4TiBjX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 09:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923835799061389313	Oct 27 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers: PaaS, Containers, SUSE, and Fedora	Oct 27 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/7CuNXVIywt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923836813474660357	Oct 27 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's leftovers	Oct 27 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/0y0E33ZM2W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/speedytux/status/923837346142879744	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" Might Launch with Linux	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux Kernel 4.15, GNOME 3.28 https://t.co/zAmqJJzOc2	Oct 27 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 10:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/923837833122664448	Oct 27 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 27/10/2017: Kinect’ Is Dead, SciPy Reaches 1.0	Oct 27 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/5ZDWvV5NWT (techrights.org)	Oct 27 10:28
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 27 15:52
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/gXPyIhp	Oct 27 16:04
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/zF2rd4q.gifv	Oct 27 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com \| New, from Taco Town®!		Oct 27 16:30
XRevan86	MinceR: They've invented shawarma?	Oct 27 16:32
MinceR	no, keep watching :>	Oct 27 16:32
XRevan86	MinceR: When they placed this horror into the grill, that's when I thought of shawerma	Oct 27 16:33
MinceR	lol	Oct 27 16:33
MinceR	i don't think that's what shawarma is	Oct 27 16:33
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XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, it's more about the feel %)	Oct 27 16:38
XRevan86	my personal	Oct 27 16:38
XRevan86	Though, maybe it's more about chebureki :)	Oct 27 16:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @schestowitz Rajoy mask with item 155:)	Oct 27 18:30
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MinceR	XRevan86: cheeki breeki	Oct 27 18:52
MinceR	yeah, that one's closer	Oct 27 18:53
*TweetTuxMachines @MikeWilliams012 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Void Linux: A Salute to Old-School Linux https://t.co/qSk9npasSc'		Oct 27 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines	System76 and ZaReason both sell Linux laptops with Kaby	Oct 27 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	Lake Refresh chips	Oct 27 19:02
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by System76 and ZaReason both sell Linux laptops with Kaby	Oct 27 19:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Lake Refresh chips	Oct 27 19:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/verfassungklage/status/923977253385629696	Oct 27 19:18
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DaemonFC	https://rollingout.com/2017/09/20/dirty-chicago-cop-caught-15-years-run/	Oct 27 20:07
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MinceR	caught and washed	Oct 27 20:11
MinceR	https://img.memecdn.com/5-stars_c_7195885.jpg	Oct 27 20:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I want to know is how he was on the run for 17 years.	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	Like, how do you even disappear like that today?	Oct 27 20:43
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	In the 1950s, it was easy. No computers or anything.	Oct 27 20:43
MinceR	drive into a flyover state?	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	You went to a public library, read some obituaries, found an infant that died that would have been about the same age, and applied for a Social Security card under that identity.	Oct 27 20:43
DaemonFC	Then you get driver's license, bank account, etc.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	Bam, new person.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	MinceR, I guess if you have enough money, you can still get the proper documents to impersonate someone else.	Oct 27 20:44
DaemonFC	But it's much harder to pull off now.	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	MinceR, He was in Michigan, which is not what it once was, but is hardly a failed stte.	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	*state	Oct 27 20:45
DaemonFC	MinceR, The midwest manages to go on in a reduced capacity.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	Everyone who can't get a job here goes to the south, where they still have jobs.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	Then the unemployment problem sorts itself out.	Oct 27 20:46
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's why Chicago hasn't grown in decades and Houston was on track to become the third largest city.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	It still might. People will rebuild down there and we might go another 20 years before it gets wiped out again.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	People are stupid and don't think long term.	Oct 27 20:47
DaemonFC	You'd think that when we start comparing hurricanes to the "finger of god", so to speak, because they're completely off the existing scale, people would evacuate the coast.	Oct 27 20:48
DaemonFC	But they just build even more stuff there after it happens.	Oct 27 20:48
DaemonFC	I think that in the long long term it'll start getting so bad and so often that people say "fuck this" and head north again.	Oct 27 20:49
DaemonFC	Chicago is ready for most of the disasters that could happen here. We have deep tunnel to deal with massive amounts of rain.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	It has proven itself already since I've lived here.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	It was a total downpour for like 9 days recently and nothing flooded because of the deep tunnel project.	Oct 27 20:50
DaemonFC	The storms got to Fort Wayne and lots of houses under water.	Oct 27 20:51
DaemonFC	Fort Wayne was making fun of us for deep tunnel and then after getting flooded out repeatedly, they recently broke ground on their own version of it.	Oct 27 20:51
DaemonFC	Right now, Chicago's deep tunnel empties all the excess water into a reservoir that was repurposed from an old quarry.	Oct 27 20:52
DaemonFC	It's pretty neat.	Oct 27 20:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, Trump and his retards are just sticking their fingers in their ears and going "La la la la la! What's that? Can't hear you!" about climate change.	Oct 27 20:53
DaemonFC	One of his first orders was to get rid of a requirement to plan for climate change and make new development resilient, so now the south can get tons of federal dollars for projects that wil lbe ruined a few years later.	Oct 27 20:54
MinceR	they won't care until it's too late to do anything	Oct 27 20:55
MinceR	as long as they can pollute the Earth, the human species is doomed	Oct 27 20:55
MinceR	and so are many others	Oct 27 20:55
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DaemonFC	MinceR, The parasites have gotten too successful and now will either kill the host or the host will kill them.	Oct 27 20:59
MinceR	indeed	Oct 27 20:59
DaemonFC	If we wanted to sustain ourselves indefinitely, it would require negative population growth until we were back down to 4-5 billion.	Oct 27 20:59
MinceR	same applies to microsoft, apple, red hat and canonical	Oct 27 20:59
DaemonFC	MinceR, The Republicans are going nuts because Governor Rauner of Illinois signed the first law in the country requiring a state government to pay for abortions for any state worker or anyone on Medicaid.	Oct 27 21:00
DaemonFC	It will solve a significant amount of the budget crisis.	Oct 27 21:01
DaemonFC	An abortion is far cheaper than generational welfare.	Oct 27 21:01
DaemonFC	Ignoring everything else, it'll probably save the government at least $200 for every $1 in new spending.	Oct 27 21:02
DaemonFC	The people who qualify for this would have had their children on food stamps, Medicaid, and who knows what else for at least 18 years.	Oct 27 21:03
DaemonFC	Many of them would also have qualified for SSI from Social Security, and subsidized housing.	Oct 27 21:03
DaemonFC	So it helps the federal government's budget too.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	It will also lower crime, eventually.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	15+ years from now.	Oct 27 21:04
DaemonFC	The religious nuts don't like it even though they don't want any welfare spending to deal with their mess once the fetuses are born and become people.	Oct 27 21:05
DaemonFC	Nice, huh?	Oct 27 21:05
DaemonFC	"Duh, we forced you to remain pregnant and now your child will starve. Not our problem. Get a job! What's that? You have to take care of your kid so you can't get a job? So? Just pull yourself up by your own bootstraps!"	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	yeah	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	but that has an effect several years into the future	Oct 27 21:07
MinceR	that's not something they can process	Oct 27 21:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, the people who would be in their prime crime years won't be there to commit any crimes, so crime will drop.	Oct 27 21:07
DaemonFC	It's completely obvious, yet they will choose to ignore it.	Oct 27 21:08
DaemonFC	Also, fewer jobs will be needed, so unemployment will go down.	Oct 27 21:08
DaemonFC	It's just that it will take so many years for this to phase in that nobody is even considering it right now.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	Fewer people trying to get into a limited number of slots for college takes pressure off of tuition.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, I liked the example of that world they went to in Sliders.	Oct 27 21:09
DaemonFC	Where they kept their population down, and as a result, there was no shortage of anything and barely any crime to speak of.	Oct 27 21:10
MinceR	but gawd says it's wrong!	Oct 27 21:10
DaemonFC	Fill the Earth and subdue it! Then live in Soylent Green. Herpa derp derp!	Oct 27 21:11
cubexyz	soylent got banned in Canada :)	Oct 27 21:11
MinceR	cubexyz: why?	Oct 27 21:12
MinceR	"She has God inside of her. Would have been easier to deal with a tumor."	Oct 27 21:12
cubexyz	not nutritious enough to be a meal replacement	Oct 27 21:13
MinceR	ic	Oct 27 21:15
cubexyz	some people don't like the taste	Oct 27 21:15
MinceR	that's irrelevant	Oct 27 21:15
MinceR	i hope they don't ban stuff in canada because some people don't like the taste	Oct 27 21:16
cubexyz	no, I'm merely repeating what some people thought	Oct 27 21:16
MinceR	ic	Oct 27 21:17
DaemonFC	MinceR, https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22791947_420576238344588_767840029346690009_o.jpg?oh=e7bc43cbf6ea41bb7330ad49a93c0139&oe=5A7136ED	Oct 27 21:20
MinceR	:)	Oct 27 21:23
DaemonFC	MinceR, I added, "A start would be to expand access to birth control and abortion so that the people who know they would be **** parents would remove themselves from the problem.".	Oct 27 21:26
MinceR	http://existentialcomics.com/comic/207	Oct 27 21:29
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schestowitz	these are always tl;dr	Oct 27 21:31
MinceR	tl;dr is subjective	Oct 27 21:31
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_(meal_replacement) Really how much people take from fiction and attempt to turn into reality.	Oct 27 21:34
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MinceR	it doesn't have long pig in it :(	Oct 27 21:35
cubexyz	Hegel looks a bit like a James Bond villian	Oct 27 21:36
DaemonFC	“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and sma	Oct 27 21:39
DaemonFC	ller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” -Douglas Adams	Oct 27 21:39
DaemonFC	I can't believe that Pidgin still exists.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	The IRC client needs a lot of work.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	Can't think of a single use for it except for Purple-Facebook maybe.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	MSN is long gone. AIM is shutting down.	Oct 27 21:45
DaemonFC	I guess that in the scheme of things, reverse engineered Facebook Chat support isn't any worse than what they went through with Microsoft or AOL.	Oct 27 21:47
DaemonFC	Many years ago, AOL got angry that people were using Pidgin (gAIM at the time) and started deliberately breaking the protocol about every week or so and forcibly updating their own messenger program to the new version.	Oct 27 21:48
DaemonFC	Because gAIM and Trillian didn't show ads, and so AOL was losing money because there was no good reason to be using their official program.	Oct 27 21:48
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I don't get is who buys books? The library has them all for free and you can borrow them for up to 2 months before you need to take them back.	Oct 27 21:50
DaemonFC	Why is Kindle a thing?	Oct 27 21:50
MinceR	dead tree is bulky, heavy, doesn't remember where you left off, doesn't have lighting built in, you can't grep it	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	Well, not free, but supported through taxes and private donations.	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	and the library is too far away	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's what bookmarks are for.	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	yeah, but it's more comfortable if it takes care of it itself	Oct 27 21:51
MinceR	i can access online libraries from anywhere on the grid	Oct 27 21:51
DaemonFC	Plus, the Kindle "lending library" doesn't have a lot of stuff.	Oct 27 21:52
MinceR	i can queue up the several next books without significant extra mass	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	Well, there's ebooks that you can borrow from the library.	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	I don't see any reason to use it.	Oct 27 21:52
DaemonFC	For one thing, real books don't have a battery that runs out.	Oct 27 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924015583116582912	Oct 27 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster"	Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	Distro with Linux 4.13	Oct 27 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3evPcPUh8f (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 27 21:53
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MinceR	mine don't run out either	Oct 27 21:53
MinceR	they can easily last until night	Oct 27 21:53
MinceR	(or some more days even)	Oct 27 21:54
MinceR	the Icarus Sense probably lasts longer but battery life isn't as important as other considerations	Oct 27 21:54
DaemonFC	MinceR, Found some audio books on TPB.	Oct 27 21:55
DaemonFC	I guess I can load them onto my AGPTEK mp3 player and listen to them.	Oct 27 21:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'DebEX KDE Plasma Is a Pure Debian GNU/Linux...'		Oct 27 21:55
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I wonder if Tribler will ever actually work.	Oct 27 21:56
DaemonFC	Bram Cohen, on his part, has maintained that bittorrent doesn't have privacy because it wasn't meant to. It was meant to efficiently move file data.	Oct 27 21:56
DaemonFC	I think that Tribler is dangerous to use. Perhaps more dangerous than just using Bittorent with no VPN/Proxy.	Oct 27 21:57
DaemonFC	I've heard of people getting infringement letters for things that they don't even share because of the onion routing and the fact that Tribler copies .torrent files around across peers.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	So basically, you could end up being charged with a felony because someone else is using Tribler to pass around plastic gun designs and child porn.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	It's very badly designed and it's worse than nothing at all.	Oct 27 21:58
DaemonFC	The people behind it are living on EU "research" money.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> I can't believe that Pidgin still exists.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> The IRC client needs a lot of work.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	> Can't think of a single use for it except for Purple-Facebook maybe.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	I use Pidgin, as I did mention before.	Oct 27 21:59
XRevan86	I just like its UI more than one of Gajim.	Oct 27 21:59
MinceR	https://random.cat/i/0WUGa.jpg	Oct 27 22:00
DaemonFC	I like HexChat because it's the only IRC client I've ever used regularly other than mIRC.	Oct 27 22:01
DaemonFC	mIRC being a LOOOOONG time ago, like on Windows 2000/XP.	Oct 27 22:01
DaemonFC	mIRC has a lot of features, like the scripts being really easy to load and use. The scripting language is very similar to Visual Basic.	Oct 27 22:01
MinceR	i prefer irssi (with BitlBee)	Oct 27 22:02
DaemonFC	Unfortunately, there's a lot of macro viruses for mIRC that disguise themselves a add-ons, and the ability to run compiled binary programs as DLL files doesn't make anything better.	Oct 27 22:02
MinceR	mIRC is a joke	Oct 27 22:02
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MinceR	it was already nagging users to pay when it could only connect to one server at a time and everyone else could do multiple	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and it's proprietary and winblows-only	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and its scripting language sucks	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	and it's ugly	Oct 27 22:03
oiaohm	DaemonFC: Tribler with Australian laws on decryption is fairly much out.	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	though less so since they copied the gui of kvirc	Oct 27 22:03
DaemonFC	MinceR, I wrote a few of them. :D	Oct 27 22:03
MinceR	so have i	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	if you mean scripts	Oct 27 22:04
DaemonFC	I mean examples of malicious scripts.	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	mine were mostly non-malicious	Oct 27 22:04
XRevan86	MinceR: What networks do you have inside bitlbee?	Oct 27 22:04
DaemonFC	They all had warnings not to actually run them and that they were there to demonstrate how easy it would be to fool someone into say, formatting drive C.	Oct 27 22:04
MinceR	XRevan86: only xmpp is enabled	Oct 27 22:05
MinceR	there's a disabled m$n account and a disabled icq account	Oct 27 22:05
XRevan86	MinceR: Nice.	Oct 27 22:05
DaemonFC	MinceR, One of them was a program that would open a DOS box and pretend to be formatting your drives.	Oct 27 22:05
DaemonFC	It was a joke to scare people.	Oct 27 22:05
oiaohm	I still have a long list of ways to privilage raise in windows using VBA in MS Office.	Oct 27 22:05
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cubexyz	ahh... I'm going to have to rehack x2x	Oct 28 02:46
cubexyz	don't feel like doing it now	Oct 28 02:46
cubexyz	someone added -north and -south	Oct 28 02:47
cubexyz	but...	Oct 28 02:47
cubexyz	the autoreconf mumbo-jumbo doesn't work on older linux	Oct 28 02:48
XRevan86	cubexyz: macros too new?	Oct 28 02:49
XRevan86	Or do you mean the command autoreconf -fi	Oct 28 02:50
cubexyz	actually it wants to: autoreconf -isv	Oct 28 02:51
cubexyz	anyways, I just wrote my own makefile... but then I realized I have to port it to the target systems	Oct 28 02:52
cubexyz	and the weird part is -north and -south were added in 1998	Oct 28 02:53
XRevan86	cubexyz: Same thing almost	Oct 28 02:53
cubexyz	openbsd is still using x2x-1.27p0	Oct 28 02:54
XRevan86	-s – symlinks instead of copying, -v – verbosity, -f – force update	Oct 28 02:54
XRevan86	You can always aclocal, intltool, gettext, autoheader, autoconf, automake if autoreconf is not present	Oct 28 02:55
cubexyz	or I could just write my own simple makefile :)	Oct 28 02:56
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XRevan86	Or you could invoke GCC directly %)	Oct 28 02:56
cubexyz	even the makefile is a bit bogus	Oct 28 02:57
cubexyz	-lXext -lXext	Oct 28 02:57
cubexyz	there was no need to put that in twice	Oct 28 02:57
XRevan86	pkg-config --cflags --libs xext :)	Oct 28 02:58
XRevan86	(too modern?)	Oct 28 02:58
DaemonFC	https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Bluetooth-1-1inch-Sweatproof-Silicone/dp/B073TTR7CZ/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1509155921&sr=8-2&keywords=a12+agptek	Oct 28 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: AGPTEK A12 8GB Clip Bluetooth Mp3 Player, Sports Clip Hi-Fi Sound Music Player with FM Radio, 1.1inch OLED, Sweatproof Silicone Case, Support up to 128GB, Dark Blue: Books		Oct 28 02:59
DaemonFC	" -Compatible System: Windows7/8/8.1/10/XP/Vista/2001/Mac OS"	Oct 28 02:59
DaemonFC	Was there a Windows 2001?	Oct 28 03:00
XRevan86	https://loadaverage.org/notice/10908423 heh	Oct 28 03:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2017 17:14:29 UTC - LoadAverage		Oct 28 03:00
cubexyz	ummm, XP?	Oct 28 03:01
cubexyz	you could call that windows 2001	Oct 28 03:01
XRevan86	DaemonFC: At least they have Mac OS 9 covered	Oct 28 03:01
cubexyz	or XP 64-bit or something	Oct 28 03:02
cubexyz	XRevan86, ok here is all that's really needed:	Oct 28 03:04
cubexyz	gcc x2x.c keymap.c -o x2x -lXtst -lXext -lX11	Oct 28 03:04
cubexyz	it's a bit bigger than x2x-1.27	Oct 28 03:06
XRevan86	cubexyz: Looks legit.	Oct 28 03:06
cubexyz	-west was the slack box	Oct 28 03:10
cubexyz	-east was the openbsd box	Oct 28 03:11
cubexyz	unfortunately both boxes are actually west of the control box :-/	Oct 28 03:11
cubexyz	it's a bit disharmonious	Oct 28 03:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: Maybe the -east box listened to Pet Shop Boys too much :)	Oct 28 03:14
XRevan86	( https://youtu.be/LNBjMRvOB5M )	Oct 28 03:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pet Shop Boys - Go West - YouTube		Oct 28 03:15
cubexyz	it still beats switching keyboards manually	Oct 28 03:16
cubexyz	XRevan86, I'm just wondering how old you would have been in 1984 :)	Oct 28 03:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: What a bizarre question :)	Oct 28 03:19
XRevan86	well, not technically a question	Oct 28 03:19
cubexyz	the year that song came out?	Oct 28 03:19
cubexyz	sorry... maybe I've got my songs mixed up	Oct 28 03:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's 1993 :)	Oct 28 03:20
cubexyz	I was thinking "West End Girls"	Oct 28 03:20
cubexyz	but you meant "Go West"	Oct 28 03:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: But it made you think of my age and that's intriguing	Oct 28 03:23
cubexyz	I just didn't think you were old enough to remember "West End Girls" from 1984	Oct 28 03:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: I "remember" a lot of things that are older than I am ;).	Oct 28 03:24
XRevan86	including but not limited to: ELO, A-ha, The Doors, Kino, Rainbow, Pink Floyd, Space, Fancy, Modern Talking, Boney M.	Oct 28 03:26
XRevan86	Kraftwerk	Oct 28 03:28
cubexyz	ah... I was just going to mention them	Oct 28 03:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: heh	Oct 28 03:30
cubexyz	how about 808 state?	Oct 28 03:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: Never heard about them…	Oct 28 03:32
cubexyz	well. if you like Kraftwerk you might like 808 state	Oct 28 03:33
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm listening to Pacific State right now :)	Oct 28 03:33
XRevan86	seems more like ELO than Kraftwerk	Oct 28 03:34
cubexyz	both English I think	Oct 28 03:35
DaemonFC	XRevan86, Really, the player is just MSC, so even Windows 95 should work as long as you have the USB support update. :/	Oct 28 03:37
DaemonFC	Well, I think you need a MSC driver too, but Samsung made one for one of their early flash drives, and it works for other devices too.	Oct 28 03:37
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I never look at OS support requirements :)	Oct 28 03:38
XRevan86	My monitor is "designed for Windows Vista", after all	Oct 28 03:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, 808 State is not hitting…	Oct 28 03:40
XRevan86	too homogeneous it feels	Oct 28 03:40
cubexyz	no like? ok	Oct 28 03:40
cubexyz	I liked some of their stuff... like Gorgeous	Oct 28 03:41
XRevan86	Kraftwerk's singer's Germanness shows sometimes :)	Oct 28 03:48
XRevan86	"scotlant yart"	Oct 28 03:48
cubexyz	I'll share my classical favourites list	Oct 28 03:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/classical-music.txt	Oct 28 03:49
XRevan86	just like Fancy most of the time pronounces w's like v's	Oct 28 03:49
cubexyz	no w sound in german?	Oct 28 03:54
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah	Oct 28 03:54
XRevan86	And to make things harder for Germans, German has a letter "w", which means "v"	Oct 28 03:55
cubexyz	but isn't Fancy from England?	Oct 28 03:56
XRevan86	cubexyz: Nope, he's from Munich	Oct 28 03:57
cubexyz	oh wait, there's a german singer called fancy isn't there	Oct 28 03:57
cubexyz	I was thinking the group called Fancy	Oct 28 03:58
XRevan86	cubexyz: Oh :). Yes, there is.	Oct 28 03:59
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_(singer)	Oct 28 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Fancy (singer) - Wikipedia		Oct 28 03:59
XRevan86	The most famous song of his is Flames of Love	Oct 28 04:00
XRevan86	In the realms of Eurodisco, Synthpop, all that.	Oct 28 04:00
cubexyz	Kraftwerk must be the original electronic music group	Oct 28 04:07
cubexyz	I guess eurodisco would be ABBA :)	Oct 28 04:10
cubexyz	maybe Juno Reactor would be more to your liking	Oct 28 04:15
XRevan86	cubexyz: Nope, ABBA is just disco :)	Oct 28 04:17
XRevan86	But I like ABBA.	Oct 28 04:19
amarsh04	I've seen Kraftwerk live in 2012 at the same concert as Yellow Magic Orchestra	Oct 28 05:01
amarsh04	liked YMO more for playing their old favourites, Kraftwerk didn't even play Autobahn or Tour de France	Oct 28 05:02
oiaohm	https://betanews.com/2017/10/27/new-york-times-tor-onion-service/ Hmm wonder if this will still have paywalls tracing back to particular billing.	Oct 28 05:06
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Oct 28 06:02
schestowitz	wow	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	Dear DefectiveByDesign.org supporter,	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	On Wednesday, October 25th, we received an email letting us know that an old Drupal database backup file was publicly accessible on defectivebydesign.org, a site operated by the Free Software Foundation. This backup file contained contact information and other details that should not have been public, submitted from 2007-2012. You are receiving this message because the file included this email address, possibly linked with other details	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	listed below. We believe it has been publicly accessible since 2012, though unadvertised, and until recently, not indexed by search engines.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	Within minutes of receiving the report, we removed the file and started auditing defectivebydesign.org and the rest of our sites.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	The file did not contain any passwords or password hashes, financial information, mailing addresses, or information about users who interacted with the site without ever logging in. While it is certainly possible, we have seen no evidence that the file was accessed by anyone other than the reporter and the search crawler, nor republished anywhere else.	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	The file did include (from both real and spambot users' profiles):	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	~28,000 email addresses;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	user and contact names;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some IP addresses associated with comments on posts;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	~200 phone numbers;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some preferred language settings;	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	some information users shared about whether they participated in a particular campaign action (like a call-in), and	Oct 28 06:39
schestowitz	timestamps of users submitting data.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	I am deeply and personally sorry for this mistake. We know how important your privacy is to you; we fight on your behalf every day against restrictive and invasive technologies that threaten it.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	We also don't believe in covering up our mistakes, so I wanted to let you know as soon as possible that you were affected -- shortly after we had finished our initial audit to make sure we understood the full extent of the problem and fixed the most urgent issues.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Even though we are a small team, under pressure to move fast against extremely large forces, this kind of mistake is absolutely unacceptable. We have made many improvements in our security practices since 2012, and in light of this failure will be taking a deeper look at what else we need to do.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	If you have any follow-up questions, please email us at sysadmin@fsf.org, and CC me at johns@fsf.org.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	On behalf of everyone here: We are sorry.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Thank you,	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	John Sullivan	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	Executive Director	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	P.S. If you are a Drupal site administrator using the backup-migrate module, make sure to check your configuration settings to ensure backup files are private. In just a few minutes of searching, we found others who are making the same mistake we did.	Oct 28 06:40
schestowitz	"	Oct 28 06:40
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oiaohm	schestowitz: yep one of the problems of online data.	Oct 28 06:58
oiaohm	schestowitz: Its always 1 error from being public.	Oct 28 06:58
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DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-3.0-EOY-Early-D3D12-Plans	Oct 28 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 3.0 Still Expected Around EOY With D3D11; Wayland & D3D12 On Roadmap - Phoronix		Oct 28 17:35
DaemonFC	Native Wayland support should help. The XWayland overhad isn't THAT baad anymore, but can still be noticeable.	Oct 28 17:35
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by There's a DebEX Version with GNOME 3.26, Based on Debian	Oct 28 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	@scas GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" https://t.co/Tm9Cz8hfWT	Oct 28 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:19
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MinceR	http://kepkezelo.com/images/eezpemr9elhfrqokrhmp.jpg	Oct 28 18:21
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22829511_420918148310397_2081224579068846050_o.jpg?oh=bd16d4235ba4c3149421359127dfe36d&oe=5A79F4AE	Oct 28 18:42
DaemonFC	MinceR, schestowitz ^	Oct 28 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/924330298539732992	Oct 28 18:53
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics leftovers	Oct 28 18:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O3Jbbublgl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 18:53
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DaemonFC	Robert Mueller got a grand jury to indict someone (maybe more than one person) for crime(s) in his investigation of Trump.	Oct 28 18:59
DaemonFC	Whoever it is will be arrested on Monday.	Oct 28 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/owlbelief/status/924333223718604802	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Graphics leftovers	Oct 28 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@owlbelief https://t.co/O3Jbbublgl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Oct 28 19:04
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DaemonFC	https://www.wthr.com/article/mom-who-beat-girl-for-incorrect-bible-verses-gets-prison	Oct 28 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mom who beat girl for incorrect Bible verses gets prison - National News - 13 WTHR Indianapolis		Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	I commented, on Facebook:	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	Religion, everyone. People should seriously read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins and God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchens. Both are easily obtainable in audio book format if you're crunched for time. I had already considered myself an atheist or at least an agnostic who strongly doubted the existence of a God for years before these books were released. Probably since the age of	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	14 when my parents went through a very bitter and prolonged divorce and it just occurred to me that religion doesn't answer anything. Religion tells you to shut up and eat it "because I said so". The people pushing it are tyrants. Add to that all of the ludicrous things in religious texts and the fact that every year, scientists prove that more and more of the alleged happenings in books like the bible are wrong and	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	could not have happened. Further, it was impressed upon me that the goal of nearly every "successful" pastor was to be another con artist living a lavish lifestyle based on defrauding the vulnerable out of their limited means, or the vile "prosperity gospel", as it is more commonly known. People like the Jim Bakker, Robert Tilton, or Benny Hinn types that give hope to the hopeless in return for some little old lady in	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	Dubuque sending in her Social Security money in return for a false promise by a false prophet for her to be healed of a disease of old age. From the summary of The God Delusion, " While Europe is becoming increasingly secularized, the rise of religious fundamentalism, whether in the Middle East or Middle America, is dramatically and dangerously dividing opinion around the world. In America, and elsewhere, a vigorous	Oct 28 19:16
DaemonFC	dispute between 'intelligent design' and Darwinism is seriously undermining and restricting the teaching of science. In many countries religious dogma from medieval times still serves to abuse basic human rights such as women's and gay rights. And all from a belief in a God whose existence lacks evidence of any kind. Dawkins attacks God in all his forms. He eviscerates the major arguments for religion and demonstrates	Oct 28 19:17
DaemonFC	the supreme improbability of a supreme being. He shows how religion fuels war, foments bigotry and abuses children. "The God Delusion" is a brilliantly argued, fascinating polemic that will be required reading for anyone interested in this most emotional and important subject."	Oct 28 19:17
DaemonFC	MinceR, Teal'c: "Certainly, you have read the bible, O'Neill." / O'Neill: "Yeah, I've been getting through it, on tape. Don't tell me how it ends."	Oct 28 19:21
MinceR	:)	Oct 28 19:22
DaemonFC	MinceR, Well, I have an idea about how fast my Skylake Mobile Core i7-6560U actually is.	Oct 28 19:23
DaemonFC	Running LAME encoding on FLAC files to turn them into VBR MP3 at -V2 (~190k) using both cores and taking advantage of Hyperthreading, I can encode at 140 times normal playback speed.	Oct 28 19:24
DaemonFC	I was sitting at about 39 times normal playback speed with my old Phenom II X4 desktop CPU.	Oct 28 19:25
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DaemonFC	Not bad considering that that Phenom was sitting at about 140 watts for the CPU alone and this ENTIRE laptop never uses more than about 20.	Oct 28 19:26
DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm betting that I haven't seen the full potential of this hardware even yet.	Oct 28 19:27
DaemonFC	Skylake optimized math functions in glibc are set to land in Fedora 28.	Oct 28 19:27
DaemonFC	I'm going through The God Delusion again. I found it in MP3.	Oct 28 19:31
DaemonFC	I gave up on the Hitchhiker's Guide as read by Douglas Adams because some idiot bought it in WMA format and then transcoded it to 32k MP3.	Oct 28 19:31
DaemonFC	It was so hard to listen to at that point that I found a better copy read by Stephen Fry and Martin Freeman, which seems to be in -V5 VBR LAME MP3.	Oct 28 19:32
DaemonFC	I don't know why anyone is using CBR. I mean, it's pointless. LAME can give acceptable results with it through use of the bit reservoir, but it's still not as good as VBR.	Oct 28 19:33
DaemonFC	The only reasons for CBR are streaming and ancient hardware that doesn't know what VBR is. At this point, the only MP3 hardware that doesn't know what VBR is, is likely sitting on a shelf at Goodwill somewhere.	Oct 28 19:34
DaemonFC	MinceR, But Teal'c mentioned that he knew of no Goa'ould that possessed the capability to perform the benevolent acts of God in the bible.	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	I groaned.	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	I was like, "Come on, Teal'c....Did you skip the ENTIRE Old Testament?	Oct 28 19:43
DaemonFC	MinceR, But the Christians (at least some of them) worked around this problem by cutting out the entire Old Testament except Psalms and Proverbs so that nobody who read this new edition would have to trouble themselves at all by having to read about the psychotic bipolar god that took up roughly half (or more, depending on the version) of the story, previously.	Oct 28 19:45
DaemonFC	KILL YOUR CHILD!!!! waits until the last moment HAHAHAA JUST FUCKING WITH YOU! Seriously. Put the knife down. You shoould have seen your face!	Oct 28 19:46
MinceR	DaemonFC: well, it's a small set	Oct 28 19:50
MinceR	also, hallowed are the Ori :>	Oct 28 19:52
DaemonFC	https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22780706_420935434975335_2250530518996830258_n.jpg?oh=205d797d32556a3ee224738434b1cee5&oe=5AACA4D0	Oct 28 19:53
XRevan86	If I understand it correctly, the orthodox church claims the old testament to be valid unless the new one says otherwise.	Oct 28 20:08
XRevan86	So it hasn't been cut out.	Oct 28 20:09
oiaohm	XRevan86: there are 3 groups that are classed orthodox church.	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	oiaohm: The Russian one, sorry.	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	What is the third one? o_0	Oct 28 20:16
XRevan86	ah	Oct 28 20:17
XRevan86	УПЦ КП	Oct 28 20:17
oiaohm	XRevan86: so Eastern Orthodox Church	Oct 28 20:18
XRevan86	(Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Kiev Patriarchate)	Oct 28 20:19
oiaohm	XRevan86: when you get into Eastern Orthodox Church inside Russia area get gets horrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Orthodox_Church You have state mixed in.	Oct 28 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Russian Orthodox Church - Wikipedia		Oct 28 20:21
XRevan86	oiaohm: yep	Oct 28 20:22
XRevan86	Pretty much since Peter I	Oct 28 20:22
XRevan86	and there are also Old Believers, I think they count as orthodox	Oct 28 20:23
oiaohm	XRevan86: please note this is subgroups inside subgroups.	Oct 28 20:24
oiaohm	XRevan86: the major groups of Orthodox Church is Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Independent Catholic. Then Eastern Orthodox breaks down into 5 more groups include Russian and Greek Orthodox.	Oct 28 20:26
XRevan86	>Independent Catholic	Oct 28 20:27
XRevan86	Greek catholic churches?	Oct 28 20:27
oiaohm	XRevan86: and there are disputes between Orthodox on how much old testament has to be followed vs new testament.	Oct 28 20:31
oiaohm	XRevan86: Independent Catholic is inside Italy and not believe in following the pope is a break away from Eastern Orthodox but with bible based around Catholic bible.	Oct 28 20:32
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible what is bible and how much has to be followed turns into a real big mess between all the Orthodox churches.	Oct 28 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Books of the Bible - Wikipedia		Oct 28 20:33
DaemonFC	XRevan86, The Russian Orthodox Church?	Oct 28 20:34
DaemonFC	You have to clarify because there's dozens of different Christian churches and most say that the others are wrong, misguided, and probably going to hell.	Oct 28 20:34
oiaohm	XRevan86: Oriental Orthodox Church is split in two been Syriac Orthodox Church and Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church . Yes the name is not even really aligned to map.	Oct 28 20:36
XRevan86	- G-d, why az esm in hell?	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- Dude, did you hear about the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church?	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- No…	Oct 28 20:38
XRevan86	- That was the one.	Oct 28 20:38
oiaohm	XRevan86: and to be worse lets have more than 1 name as well Coptic Orthodox Church and Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church are the same group.	Oct 28 20:39
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://mospat.ru/en/2017/05/22/news146355/ there have been many attempt over the years to attempt unfragment the the Orthodox churches.	Oct 28 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mospat.ru \| Head of the Coptic Church begins his visit to Russia \| The Russian Orthodox Church		Oct 28 20:42
oiaohm	XRevan86: mostly resulting in making more Churches.	Oct 28 20:42
XRevan86	https://xkcd.com/927	Oct 28 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Standards		Oct 28 20:43
oiaohm	XRevan86: yep more true for Christian Churches unfortunately. With standards you get the lucky case that the new standard does replace the old at times.	Oct 28 20:44
oiaohm	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Organization_of_Autocephalus_Eastern_Orthodox_Churches.pdf Ok EEP. Russian Orthodox breaks into 8. With Ukrainian Orthodox Church being its own sub group.	Oct 28 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| File:Organization of Autocephalus Eastern Orthodox Churches.pdf - Wikipedia		Oct 28 20:50
oiaohm	XRevan86: yes each one has some variation in teaching.	Oct 28 20:51
XRevan86	One would think an "othodox" church would know the traditional way of doing things :).	Oct 28 20:51
oiaohm	XRevan86: It does not help that all the Orthodox Churches with different believes call themselves Orthodox Church.	Oct 28 20:56
oiaohm	XRevan86: you would call this almost the religion equal the the IT word cloud.	Oct 28 20:57
DaemonFC	MinceR, What I don't get is the Jehova's Witnesses.	Oct 28 21:58
DaemonFC	Specifically, the part about how they're standing there passing out religious material at many CTA stations in Chicago. Like, what's the connection? "I just got off a train so I'm going to convert to your religion now?".	Oct 28 21:58
MinceR	obviously everyone's dying to acquire their particular set of delusions	Oct 28 21:59
MinceR	it's "God"'s will, after all	Oct 28 21:59
DaemonFC	Further, why is this allowed? They're trespassing on CTA property, getting in the way of people who are trying to get to a train. Do I have a right to stand next to them passing out pamphlets that say how ridiculously full of shit these people are?	Oct 28 22:00
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