IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 7th, 2018 – January 13th, 2018

*TweetTuxMachines @josanneves favourited '#Canonical Plans to Release #Ubuntu 17.10 Respin ISOs...'		Jan 07 00:02
XRevan86	DaemonFC: That's what people get for using devices with no detachable battery.	Jan 07 00:07
XRevan86	I remember it was a big argument against detachable batteries from Apple that they make the phone more fragile as it's less solid. But isn't it the other way round?	Jan 07 00:09
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*TweetTuxMachines @josanneves favourited '#Ubuntu 17.04, the Last Release with Unity 7,...'		Jan 07 01:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949814011046055936	Jan 07 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	#4MLinux 23.2 released.	Jan 07 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SBkdD5x0C3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux 23.2 released. \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/949814267930398720	Jan 07 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #4MLinux 23.2 released.	Jan 07 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/SBkdD5x0C3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949819609418518533	Jan 07 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	#Solaris 11.4 To Move From #GNOME 2 Desktop To GNOME	Jan 07 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	Shell	Jan 07 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/rzsq9c8Ne9 (www.tuxmachines.org) #unix	Jan 07 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Solaris 11.4 To Move From GNOME 2 Desktop To GNOME Shell \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 01:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Solaris 11.4 To Move From #GNOME 2 Desktop...'		Jan 07 01:49
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oiaohm	XRevan86: the reason for embedded batteries on Android has been water proofing.	Jan 07 02:34
oiaohm	XRevan86: at least that kind of makes sense.	Jan 07 02:34
cubexyz	got some interesting new info about spectre and meltdown:	Jan 07 03:23
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/spectre-and-meltdown-notes.txt	Jan 07 03:23
cubexyz	evidently P3's are fine	Jan 07 03:24
cubexyz	https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/01/06/0424200/can-we-replace-intel-x86-with-an-open-source-chip	Jan 07 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org \| Can We Replace Intel x86 With an Open Source Chip? - Slashdot		Jan 07 03:28
cubexyz	newer computers aren't that great... that's the sad truth	Jan 07 03:46
cubexyz	late 1980s motherboards had many socketed chips, you could fix those forever	Jan 07 03:47
cubexyz	or you could get one of those Talos II	Jan 07 03:56
cubexyz	for $6,750 :)	Jan 07 03:56
cubexyz	well, $4,750 for a baseline model	Jan 07 03:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949869258124783616	Jan 07 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Meltdown & Spectre, Critical CSRF Security	Jan 07 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerability, OpenVPN and More	Jan 07 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kBnGAjU1v2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 05:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Meltdown & Spectre, Critical CSRF Security Vulnerability, OpenVPN and More \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 05:05
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oiaohm	cubexyz: that would be spectre I had seen meltdown tests back to 1995	Jan 07 05:17
cubexyz	which one is worse?	Jan 07 05:17
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_(security_vulnerability) the google tests of meltdown on intel hardware says it 1995 and newer.	Jan 07 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Meltdown (security vulnerability) - Wikipedia		Jan 07 05:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: also spectre is a lot harder to confirm	Jan 07 05:22
oiaohm	cubexyz: to be effected by spectre cpu has to have speculative execution and that means has to have out of order execution.	Jan 07 05:24
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_(microarchitecture) the first Intel cpu with out of order execution/speculative execution is P6 and still 1995	Jan 07 05:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| P6 (microarchitecture) - Wikipedia		Jan 07 05:27
oiaohm	cubexyz: the problem here spectre exploits have to be customised to CPU so without very detailed testing its hard to rule it completley out..	Jan 07 05:28
oiaohm	cubexyz: meltdown is picking on MMU. Spectre is picking on execution order	Jan 07 05:30
cubexyz	I see	Jan 07 05:30
DaemonFC	So PowerPC CPUs tend to be in order, right?	Jan 07 05:30
DaemonFC	The Xenon CPU in the XBOX 360 is.	Jan 07 05:30
oiaohm	DaemonFC: depends on the powerpc chip.	Jan 07 05:30
cubexyz	how about you tell us which CPUs are _not_ affected? :)	Jan 07 05:31
DaemonFC	cubexyz: That's a little harder.	Jan 07 05:31
DaemonFC	Most x86 CPUs are out of order. Even very old ones.	Jan 07 05:31
DaemonFC	The K6/2 was out of order.	Jan 07 05:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: http://people.cs.pitt.edu/~alanjawi/history.html Powerpc is one of the places out of order execution started.	Jan 07 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.cs.pitt.edu \| History of the PowerPC Architecture		Jan 07 05:32
DaemonFC	The Xenon performed okay.	Jan 07 05:33
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the Xenon is a out of order cpu.	Jan 07 05:33
cubexyz	time for AMD I think	Jan 07 05:33
cubexyz	seems like the logical choice	Jan 07 05:34
oiaohm	DaemonFC: spectre has been confirmed in some powerpc cpu designs. I don't know if Xenon is based off of one of those.	Jan 07 05:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: amd has some spectre problems.	Jan 07 05:35
oiaohm	cubexyz: funny things are 100 percent not meltdown or spectre like raspberry pis.	Jan 07 05:35
cubexyz	what about FPGAs?	Jan 07 05:36
oiaohm	cubexyz: FPGA comes down to what you programmed into it.	Jan 07 05:36
oiaohm	cubexyz: and in arm it even gets complex because you have the out of order arm64 designs by quacomm and samsung that don't have either fault.	Jan 07 05:37
cubexyz	I heard Atom chips are safe	Jan 07 05:38
oiaohm	cubexyz: only some.	Jan 07 05:39
cubexyz	er, Atom chips before 2013 that is	Jan 07 05:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: the some are the ones with the powervr graphics.	Jan 07 05:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: that windows 10 and Linux don't support well. To be correct windows 10 does not support at all and Linux support is iffy.	Jan 07 05:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: fairly much we have got it to the neck for having a mono-culture and lack of design auditing..	Jan 07 05:41
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/y8czI	Jan 07 06:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Isn't this a punderful world we live in? - Album on Imgur		Jan 07 06:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/949869419324411904	Jan 07 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Meltdown & Spectre, Critical CSRF Security	Jan 07 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Vulnerability, OpenVPN and More	Jan 07 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kBnGAjU1v2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Meltdown & Spectre, Critical CSRF Security Vulnerability, OpenVPN and More \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 06:53
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/VUPyy	Jan 07 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Fine Cat Dump - Album on Imgur		Jan 07 07:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949912705204400130	Jan 07 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	#Chrome and #Mozilla (Robert O'Callahan Unlocks Secrets)	Jan 07 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8Rd12DJtjF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Chrome and Mozilla (Robert O'Callahan Unlocks Secrets) \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 07:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/949913122734854144	Jan 07 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Chrome and #Mozilla (Robert O'Callahan Unlocks Secrets)	Jan 07 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/8Rd12DJtjF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 08:28
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/qDMl3	Jan 07 09:22
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schestowitz	rnice	Jan 07 09:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks "Witches now existed in droves, and to...'		Jan 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@shutd https://twitter.com/shutd/status/949945173420707840	Jan 07 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Please read recent threads on Alpha and	Jan 07 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	#litebook at https://t.co/WfvEYogS9T (www.reddit.com)	Jan 07 10:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| linuxhardware: For GNU/Linux hardware questions and needs		Jan 07 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/MyNameIsZK1234/status/949945495153201154	Jan 07 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #4MLinux 23.2 released.	Jan 07 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	@MyNameIsZK1234 https://t.co/SBkdD5x0C3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4MLinux 23.2 released. \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 10:11
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/7bW8H	Jan 07 10:44
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MinceR	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-PSP-2018-Vulnerability	Jan 07 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD PSP Affected By Remote Code Execution Vulnerability - Phoronix		Jan 07 10:46
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MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQr0HCIN2w	Jan 07 12:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949987291300356096	Jan 07 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Jan 07 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1IPfoilMUy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949989928112394240	Jan 07 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/4jGoSnIjr6	Jan 07 13:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 13:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @Mark7475 favourited '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/4jGoSnIjr6'		Jan 07 13:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/4jGoSnIjr6'		Jan 07 13:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/949996782452436992	Jan 07 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux 4.16 To Feature More BFQ Optimizations	Jan 07 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pnMLFO0C3g (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 4.16 To Feature More BFQ Optimizations \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950000300609417216	Jan 07 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Linux 4.16 To Feature More BFQ Optimizations	Jan 07 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/pnMLFO0C3g (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 14:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @TechJournalist favourited '#Linux 4.16 To Feature More BFQ Optimizations ...'		Jan 07 14:24
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XRevan86	MinceR: It's the first time I saw Latin cursive and I read it %).	Jan 07 15:43
MinceR	:)	Jan 07 15:45
XRevan86	The "l" has an unexpected shape though.	Jan 07 15:45
XRevan86	more… lambda shaped	Jan 07 15:46
XRevan86	the "I", I mean %)	Jan 07 15:48
XRevan86	was thinking of lambda, influnced my typing	Jan 07 15:48
XRevan86	influenced	Jan 07 15:48
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robobox_	now that linspire 7 is out	Jan 07 15:56
robobox_	is the boycott of linspire still in effect?	Jan 07 15:56
robobox_	or does it not matter anymore?	Jan 07 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950010288451084290	Jan 07 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Jan 07 15:58
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/1IPfoilMUy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 15:58
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oiaohm	robobox_: really have you read over the new linspire 7 can check out the claims. Does not take much looking to find claims not based in fact.	Jan 07 15:59
oiaohm	robobox_: and other items that a questionable.	Jan 07 16:00
oiaohm	robobox_: please note it was not like the novell case and patents with linspire historically it was quality issues and license compliance issues. The new version of linspire looks to have all those old problems again.	Jan 07 16:02
XRevan86	It appears to be a pretty worthless distro. Is there anything to boycott?	Jan 07 16:05
oiaohm	XRevan86: really its not like there is a need to boycott when its a item that going to have trouble passing basic legal department license compliance inspection.	Jan 07 16:07
robobox_	reddit has more microsoft boosting, from jason perlow	Jan 07 16:18
robobox_	http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-intel-x86-must-die-our-cloud-centric-future-depends-on-open-source-chips-meltdown/	Jan 07 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Intel x86 must die: Our cloud-centric future depends on open source chips \| ZDNet		Jan 07 16:18
robobox_	of course everyone is angry in the comments	Jan 07 16:19
XRevan86	> to the core DNA of the semiconductor industry	Jan 07 16:25
XRevan86	what…	Jan 07 16:25
XRevan86	DNA? Really?	Jan 07 16:25
XRevan86	The new business IT terminology, fillies and gentlecolts: DNA in the cloud	Jan 07 16:27
XRevan86	> And they may be some of the worst computer bugs in history -- if not the worst	Jan 07 16:34
XRevan86	Well, I wouldn't call it THAT bad.	Jan 07 16:34
XRevan86	Because they can be "fixed" in software.	Jan 07 16:35
XRevan86	So pretty bad but not the WORST	Jan 07 16:35
XRevan86	Though the fact that the bug is around for 20 years can promote it to that status :).	Jan 07 16:36
robobox_	this is why i am using amd on my new laptop	Jan 07 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950046135200243713	Jan 07 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Ubuntu 17.10 Will Be Re-Released on January 11, Will No	Jan 07 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	Longer Brick Laptops	Jan 07 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jZS86iiGHu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 16:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 17.10 Will Be Re-Released on January 11, Will No Longer Brick Laptops \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950046190283972609	Jan 07 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	Security: CPU Bugs, Western Digital Back Doors	Jan 07 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mpxDpvuM8W (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 16:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 17.10 Will Be Re-Released on January 11,...'		Jan 07 16:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: CPU Bugs, Western Digital Back Doors ...'		Jan 07 16:51
*TweetTuxMachines @GamerGeekNews retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Ubuntu 17.10 Will Be Re-Released on January 11,...'		Jan 07 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950047405529067520	Jan 07 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	OSS and Sharing	Jan 07 16:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VSH0F0tAiy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 16:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950048664218689543	Jan 07 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 07 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/85oPmLPYMJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 16:59
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS and Sharing https://t.co/VSH0F0tAiy...'		Jan 07 16:59
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/85oPmLPYMJ...'		Jan 07 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950049698211082241	Jan 07 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Wine 3.0 RC5, Super Indie Kart and More	Jan 07 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QuBn9E2kOE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 17:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: Wine 3.0 RC5, Super Indie Kart and More \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950050157852229632	Jan 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	#Kernel and Graphics: LightNVM, Year 2038 and More	Jan 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2UujA1gTUb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 17:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel and Graphics: LightNVM, Year 2038 and More \| Tux Machines		Jan 07 17:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950050543812186112	Jan 07 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Containers in Research, Opera, KDE Software,	Jan 07 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	Thunderbolt 3, Android and Chrome OS	Jan 07 17:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b4v674l1NY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 07 17:05
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Wine 3.0 RC5, Super Indie Kart and...'		Jan 07 17:05
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kernel and Graphics: LightNVM, Year 2038 and More...'		Jan 07 17:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Leftovers: Containers in Research, Opera, KDE Software, Thunderbolt...'		Jan 07 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950052279968702464	Jan 07 17:23
TweetTuxMachines	Links 7/1/2018: New Latte Dock and 4MLinux Releases	Jan 07 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/Zxo7qKFC6K (techrights.org)	Jan 07 19:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950166244111642624	Jan 08 00:45
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux 4.15-rc7 https://t.co/lGLSeOpnbZ	Jan 08 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/950166432670654464	Jan 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Linux 4.15-rc7 https://t.co/lGLSeOpnbZ	Jan 08 00:59
TweetTuxMachines	@GamerGeekNews (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 00:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950173086657204226	Jan 08 01:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/10924173	Jan 08 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: China’s hi-tech missile ambitions are marching ahead at warp speed http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2127144/chinas-hi-tech-missile-ambitions-are-marching-ahead "excess of five times the speed of sound" Good luck shooting THAT down		Jan 08 01:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950180276814172160	Jan 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	#Meltdown and #Spectre #Linux Perspective	Jan 08 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aS7BIJ6Y10 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 01:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950180357730721793	Jan 08 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Meltdown and #Spectre #Linux Perspective	Jan 08 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/aS7BIJ6Y10 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 02:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950188731457245186	Jan 08 02:15
TweetTuxMachines	#GhostBSD 11.1 - FreeBSD for the desktop	Jan 08 02:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1c70j4exWJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd	Jan 08 02:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950189162120073216	Jan 08 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #GhostBSD 11.1 - FreeBSD for the desktop	Jan 08 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/1c70j4exWJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd	Jan 08 02:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950193331685949440	Jan 08 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	LinuxAndUbuntu Review Of #TrueOS A Unix Based OS	Jan 08 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MAI3uDkGxu (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix	Jan 08 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950193760859803649	Jan 08 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by LinuxAndUbuntu Review Of #TrueOS A Unix Based OS	Jan 08 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/MAI3uDkGxu (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #unix	Jan 08 03:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/adymitruk/status/950215358270631936	Jan 08 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #GhostBSD 11.1 - FreeBSD for the desktop	Jan 08 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	@adymitruk https://t.co/1c70j4exWJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd	Jan 08 05:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@2green https://twitter.com/2green/status/950262790782160896	Jan 08 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	The latest Linux Stuff Daily! https://t.co/T1Z5PMy1Ms	Jan 08 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	(paper.li) Thanks to @tuxmachines @linuxarm @LibrePC	Jan 08 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #arm	Jan 08 07:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950272619345010689	Jan 08 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Jan 08 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LzPmYNYdog (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pyrokitteh/status/950283630349299712	Jan 08 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Jan 08 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	@Pyrokitteh https://t.co/LzPmYNYdog (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 08:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn I like the red bus without lies...'		Jan 08 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950298765038161920	Jan 08 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	#Gemini Runs GNU/Linux and #Android	Jan 08 09:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GEd2Pbsrbd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 08 09:32
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Gemini Runs GNU/Linux and #Android https://t.co/GEd2Pbsrbd #gnu...'		Jan 08 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950301031400923136	Jan 08 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Security: #Meltdown and #Spectre , #Kaspersky , #PowerPC	Jan 08 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UHe1GigWrj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 09:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950301692649725953	Jan 08 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 08 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OnUVYX6oK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 09:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: #Meltdown and #Spectre , #Kaspersky , #PowerPC...'		Jan 08 09:45
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/OnUVYX6oK0...'		Jan 08 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950302627300077568	Jan 08 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	Why I Find #Nginx Practically Better Than #Apache	Jan 08 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/c3Gu7ux28X (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 09:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950303254121996288	Jan 08 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Steam, SuperTux and More	Jan 08 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ugKtb7Ojjv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 09:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Why I Find #Nginx Practically Better Than #Apache...'		Jan 08 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950304477734752256	Jan 08 09:54
TweetTuxMachines	Software: Eddy, KDE, and GNU	Jan 08 09:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XOkusuvAYe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: Eddy, KDE, and GNU \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 09:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Steam, SuperTux and More https://t.co/ugKtb7Ojjv...'		Jan 08 09:56
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: Eddy, KDE, and GNU https://t.co/XOkusuvAYe...'		Jan 08 10:16
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MinceR	https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170720/01434337827/russia-does-copy-paste-germanys-new-hate-speech-online-censorship-law.shtml	Jan 08 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/BashNews/status/950310296530378752	Jan 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Gemini Runs GNU/Linux and #Android	Jan 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@BashNews https://t.co/GEd2Pbsrbd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 08 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/950337749822988288	Jan 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Gemini Runs GNU/Linux and #Android	Jan 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/GEd2Pbsrbd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 08 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/BazeBekes/status/950391847012196354	Jan 08 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@BazeBekes https://t.co/1c70j4exWJ (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd	Jan 08 17:46
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schestowitz	he's high	Jan 08 18:39
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenWarren @realDonaldTrump Agent Orange doing it for his...'		Jan 08 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950442715564539904	Jan 08 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	Sub-1GHz IoT gateway combines BB Black and TI #LaunchPad	Jan 08 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	boards https://t.co/og6E7NIqch (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Jan 08 19:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950442920301203457	Jan 08 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	5 Differences Between Linux And Windows	Jan 08 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hhUTJDPPAM (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 08 19:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 Differences Between Linux And Windows https://t.co/hhUTJDPPAM #gnu...'		Jan 08 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950445126740074497	Jan 08 19:14
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-on with the Gemini PDA handheld PC with Android,	Jan 08 19:14
TweetTuxMachines	Linux and a 6 inch display https://t.co/FMq0ptqPzI	Jan 08 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950445572695232517	Jan 08 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	You GNOME it: Windows and Apple devs get a compelling	Jan 08 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	reason to turn to Linux https://t.co/FnGw82U3lP	Jan 08 19:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 08 19:15
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'You GNOME it: Windows and Apple devs get...'		Jan 08 19:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950446952411467776	Jan 08 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	5 arcade-style #games for #Linux https://t.co/bxAjazTij1	Jan 08 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950447723727253504	Jan 08 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	Benchmarking #Linux With The #Retpoline Patches For	Jan 08 19:25
TweetTuxMachines	#Spectre https://t.co/NKHKvjHAPz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 19:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950448304948678659	Jan 08 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/1fVnfHTcMw	Jan 08 19:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 19:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '5 arcade-style #games for #Linux https://t.co/bxAjazTij1'		Jan 08 19:27
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Benchmarking #Linux With The #Retpoline Patches For #Spectre...'		Jan 08 19:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/1fVnfHTcMw'		Jan 08 19:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GentooBot/status/950449357660348417	Jan 08 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Benchmarking #Linux With The #Retpoline Patches For	Jan 08 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@GentooBot #Spectre https://t.co/NKHKvjHAPz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 19:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950456850494951424	Jan 08 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Boson, Descenders, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War	Jan 08 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	III	Jan 08 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gWnEbF8IPd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 20:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: Boson, Descenders, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 20:07
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: Boson, Descenders, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War...'		Jan 08 20:11
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/wH7yi	Jan 08 20:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn It's estimated that 120,000 people have already...'		Jan 08 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950465471064805376	Jan 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	#ASUS #TinkerBoard S Is New Raspberry Pi-killer With	Jan 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux And #Android Support (CES 2018)	Jan 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wKDjLuIjWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 20:35
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MinceR	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0i4U4VAAAvbr8.jpg	Jan 08 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950465957377560577	Jan 08 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #ASUS #TinkerBoard S Is New Raspberry Pi-killer With	Jan 08 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #Linux And #Android Support (CES 2018)	Jan 08 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wKDjLuIjWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 20:48
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/dw1DoTK.jpg	Jan 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/BashNews/status/950476389978923013	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #ASUS #TinkerBoard S Is New Raspberry Pi-killer With	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@BashNews #Linux And #Android Support (CES 2018)	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wKDjLuIjWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950476526553845768	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Cryptocurrency Mining, Meltdown and Spectre,	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	Updates, Cryptographic Key Generation	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T3N0dnkK0N (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:17
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:17
*TweetTuxMachines @dzxi favourited 'Security: Cryptocurrency Mining, Meltdown and Spectre, Updates, Cryptographic...'		Jan 08 21:17
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MinceR	https://p1.picsto.re/EsGqt.jpg	Jan 08 21:19
*TweetTuxMachines @dzxi retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Cryptocurrency Mining, Meltdown and Spectre, Updates, Cryptographic...'		Jan 08 21:20
XRevan86	MinceR: Time to check the pronunciation guideline on "Monica"	Jan 08 21:22
XRevan86	mOnika	Jan 08 21:22
XRevan86	not even close	Jan 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950477394963464193	Jan 08 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla: AMO, Socorro, Rust and Alliance for Open Media	Jan 08 21:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gMcnty31LK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla: AMO, Socorro, Rust and Alliance for Open Media \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950477957058965504	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Programming: Forking Bazaar, #Qt 5.9 on FreeBSD, #Netlify	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Reaches 1.0	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7GF4uogtfN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	@ArhaanK48856763 https://twitter.com/ArhaanK48856763/status/950478808653619200	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Daily 50-300% profit trading signals	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Telegram no.1 channel	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	60000 active members	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Join this channel now for huge profit	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	👉https://t.co/VMHU5omVl1 (twitter.com)	Jan 08 21:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming: Forking Bazaar, Qt 5.9 on FreeBSD, Netlify Reaches 1.0 \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me \| Telegram: Contact @crypto_experts_signal		Jan 08 21:26
XRevan86	MinceR: Did that stupid prick go golfing again?	Jan 08 21:27
MinceR	probably	Jan 08 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950478820007653376	Jan 08 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	The #Openwashing of AT&T (Sponsored) and #Monsanto	Jan 08 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wiUaYeeDIl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:29
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Openwashing of AT&T (Sponsored) and Monsanto \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950479554052837376	Jan 08 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Jan 08 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0vQM4inOIw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950479978201862144	Jan 08 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	#Fedora and Red Hat: New ISO, AArch64, ARM, OpenShift,	Jan 08 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	Kubernetes	Jan 08 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Mm20vdW3Wu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:32
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950480293500157952	Jan 08 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen: Refrigerators and Phones	Jan 08 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iMFUyUgqDa (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos	Jan 08 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950481205379682304	Jan 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BaGAD7LNzT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950481660507762688	Jan 08 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	Software: BadISO, MusE 3.0.0, Krita, GNOME and More	Jan 08 21:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ej1TPVjh27 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950482032999755776	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3qK7ZBYSE7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:41
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TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950482591030837248	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Cryptocurrency Mining, Meltdown and Spectre,	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Updates, Cryptographic Key Generation	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/T3N0dnkK0N (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Cryptocurrency Mining, Meltdown and Spectre, Updates, Cryptographic Key Generation \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950482607304773634	Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Mozilla: AMO, Socorro, Rust and Alliance for Open Media	Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/gMcnty31LK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla: AMO, Socorro, Rust and Alliance for Open Media \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950483368176693249	Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Programming: Forking Bazaar, #Qt 5.9 on FreeBSD, #Netlify	Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Reaches 1.0	Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7GF4uogtfN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950483383104176131	Jan 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The #Openwashing of AT&T (Sponsored) and #Monsanto	Jan 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/wiUaYeeDIl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950483725418225664	Jan 08 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	Links 8/1/2018: Final RC of Linux Kernel 4.15, Linux at	Jan 08 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	CES https://t.co/503PgI7KHY (techrights.org)	Jan 08 21:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @KraeuterVerbena retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The #Openwashing of AT&T (Sponsored) and #Monsanto ...'		Jan 08 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950484119913402368	Jan 08 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by OSS Leftovers	Jan 08 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/0vQM4inOIw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950484155414048769	Jan 08 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Fedora and Red Hat: New ISO, AArch64, ARM, OpenShift,	Jan 08 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Kubernetes	Jan 08 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Mm20vdW3Wu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora and Red Hat: New ISO, AArch64, ARM, OpenShift, Kubernetes \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950484916671795202	Jan 08 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Tizen: Refrigerators and Phones	Jan 08 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/iMFUyUgqDa (www.tuxmachines.org) #tizenos	Jan 08 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen: Refrigerators and Phones \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 21:50
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950484928180998146	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/BaGAD7LNzT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950486587183390720	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Software: BadISO, MusE 3.0.0, Krita, GNOME and More	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/ej1TPVjh27 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 21:57
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 21:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950486598948409350	Jan 08 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's leftovers	Jan 08 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/3qK7ZBYSE7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 08 22:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 08 22:00
*TweetTuxMachines @adoptbuddy favourited 'Links 8/1/2018: Final RC of Linux Kernel 4.15,...'		Jan 08 22:04
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/m8EySrW	Jan 08 22:24
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*XRevan86 read "majestic alf"		Jan 08 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950489863928901637	Jan 08 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 8/1/2018: Final RC of Linux Kernel 4.15, Linux at	Jan 08 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz CES https://t.co/503PgI7KHY (techrights.org)	Jan 08 23:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 08 23:02
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/G3q3q	Jan 09 06:34
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/jrrI9	Jan 09 06:54
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schestowitz	ckassuc!	Jan 09 07:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950635316402184192	Jan 09 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny industrial temperature module runs Linux on a	Jan 09 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	Zynq-7000	Jan 09 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ra05hhXoNP (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Jan 09 07:51
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 07:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny industrial temperature module runs Linux on a...'		Jan 09 07:58
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@jeremycorbyn Young is OUT! Good riddance. This...'		Jan 09 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Pyrokitteh/status/950639442699661313	Jan 09 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Tiny industrial temperature module runs Linux on a	Jan 09 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@Pyrokitteh Zynq-7000	Jan 09 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ra05hhXoNP (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Jan 09 08:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950651803640705024	Jan 09 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre,	Jan 09 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Rage, Microsoft Bricks Machines	Jan 09 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78RHSUup25 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 08:55
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre, Linus...'		Jan 09 08:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @softlockup favourited 'Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre, Linus...'		Jan 09 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950675165754679297	Jan 09 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	#Asus #TinkerBoard S adds 16GB eMMC and more	Jan 09 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EFR5keZ5wL (www.tuxmachines.org) #linux	Jan 09 10:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 10:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950675424761339904	Jan 09 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	Who Was To Blame For The Ubuntu BIOS Bug?	Jan 09 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QJhcqyGHr8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu	Jan 09 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Who Was To Blame For The Ubuntu BIOS Bug? \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 09 10:28
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 10:28
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Asus #TinkerBoard S adds 16GB eMMC and more...'		Jan 09 10:28
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Who Was To Blame For The Ubuntu BIOS...'		Jan 09 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950675784963903489	Jan 09 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	How to set up a Raspberry Pi for retro gaming	Jan 09 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BMtU8VomRK (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi	Jan 09 10:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 10:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950676056108920832	Jan 09 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/mKfsWW7blb	Jan 09 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 10:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How to set up a Raspberry Pi for...'		Jan 09 10:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Leftovers https://t.co/mKfsWW7blb'		Jan 09 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/950681572008632320	Jan 09 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Who Was To Blame For The Ubuntu BIOS Bug?	Jan 09 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@GamerGeekNews https://t.co/QJhcqyGHr8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu	Jan 09 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 09 11:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@MMFlint The United Stated deserves a President who...'		Jan 09 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950695430777696257	Jan 09 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Microsoft, Twitter, Korea and DHS	Jan 09 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HPQQdfuK28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 12:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Microsoft, Twitter, Korea and DHS https://t.co/HPQQdfuK28...'		Jan 09 12:05
*TweetTuxMachines @pro_aktv retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Microsoft, Twitter, Korea and DHS https://t.co/HPQQdfuK28...'		Jan 09 12:06
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*TweetTuxMachines @pro_aktv favourited 'Security: Microsoft, Twitter, Korea and DHS https://t.co/HPQQdfuK28...'		Jan 09 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950708684459511808	Jan 09 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights	Jan 09 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LtleFq0geG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 13:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950716684905668608	Jan 09 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	Games: GOG, The Station, EVERSPACE, Turnover	Jan 09 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/if0Y32TwUW (www.tuxmachines.org) #games #gnu	Jan 09 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games: GOG, The Station, EVERSPACE, Turnover \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 13:13
TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Jan 09 13:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Games: GOG, The Station, EVERSPACE, Turnover https://t.co/if0Y32TwUW...'		Jan 09 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950717258820653056	Jan 09 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights	Jan 09 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LtleFq0geG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 13:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950722992157483008	Jan 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	Future Tumbleweed Snapshot to Bring YaST Changes	Jan 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QyBNMpabRe (www.tuxmachines.org) #suse #yast	Jan 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	#opensuse	Jan 09 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950723284672352258	Jan 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jtTUhpX2gq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 13:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Future Tumbleweed Snapshot to Bring YaST Changes ...'		Jan 09 13:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/jtTUhpX2gq...'		Jan 09 13:44
*TweetTuxMachines @vermintidefans favourited 'Games: GOG, The Station, EVERSPACE, Turnover https://t.co/if0Y32TwUW...'		Jan 09 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950725091175948288	Jan 09 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	The 5 best Linux distros for the enterprise: Red Hat,	Jan 09 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu, Linux Mint and more	Jan 09 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pPjA4AxILP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 13:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The 5 best Linux distros for the enterprise:...'		Jan 09 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/950727995391660036	Jan 09 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Who Was To Blame For The Ubuntu BIOS Bug?	Jan 09 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/QJhcqyGHr8 (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu	Jan 09 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 09 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/950728330222878725	Jan 09 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The 5 best Linux distros for the enterprise: Red Hat,	Jan 09 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Ubuntu, Linux Mint and more	Jan 09 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pPjA4AxILP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 13:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'The 5 best Linux distros for the enterprise:...'		Jan 09 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/950729440836829186	Jan 09 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre,	Jan 09 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Linus Torvalds Rage, Microsoft Bricks Machines	Jan 09 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78RHSUup25 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 14:02
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oiaohm	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-no-more-windows-security-updates-unless-avs-set-a-registry-key/ ???	Jan 09 14:17
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oiaohm	Now that like set this key wrong to prevent updates sounds idea for malware.	Jan 09 14:17
MinceR	finally a way to disable updates on Backdoors10 :>	Jan 09 14:23
schestowitz	good for Linux	Jan 09 14:28
schestowitz	do more of that, Microsoft!	Jan 09 14:29
schestowitz	fucking destroy their machines too!	Jan 09 14:29
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited 'Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre, Linus...'		Jan 09 14:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders #Trump 'base' calls people who oppose Wall...'		Jan 09 14:54
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders #MAGA https://t.co/XvGd8uo01C'		Jan 09 15:00
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oiaohm	https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/08/microsofts_spectre_fixer_bricks_some_amd_powered_pcs/	Jan 09 15:10
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oiaohm	Microsoft is really on a roll.	Jan 09 15:10
MinceR	they've been for 42 years	Jan 09 15:10
MinceR	and counting	Jan 09 15:10
oiaohm	MinceR: normally not these ammount of stuffing things up.	Jan 09 15:14
MinceR	or rather, other kinds of stuffing things up	Jan 09 15:16
schestowitz	Microsoft loves Linux	Jan 09 15:23
schestowitz	and helps it now	Jan 09 15:23
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders @docdanielle No money for health. $700,000,000,000+...'		Jan 09 15:29
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/cX3ijf0.jpg	Jan 09 15:38
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schestowitz	da faq	Jan 09 15:44
schestowitz	maybe Hans Reiser will find that amusing	Jan 09 15:44
MinceR	i doubt that	Jan 09 15:58
MinceR	hm, maybe	Jan 09 16:00
*TweetTuxMachines @dyegomb favourited 'Benchmarking #Linux With The #Retpoline Patches For #Spectre...'		Jan 09 16:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/kyloarien/status/950763401067814912	Jan 09 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: MalwareTech, Linux vs Meltdown and Spectre,	Jan 09 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	@kyloarien Linus Torvalds Rage, Microsoft Bricks Machines	Jan 09 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/78RHSUup25 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950771006448300032	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu-Based OS in 2018 https://t.co/azS8TbTiwx	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 16:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950771294924140544	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	Number of #Security Fixes https://t.co/NmFXlkWsn2	Jan 09 16:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 16:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their Ubuntu-Based OS in 2018 \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge Number of Security Fixes \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 16:50
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge...'		Jan 09 16:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950773104158093312	Jan 09 16:57
TweetTuxMachines	#Benchmarking Clear Linux With #KPTI + #Retpoline Support	Jan 09 16:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GLTGmbVDKf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 16:57
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Benchmarking Clear Linux With #KPTI + #Retpoline Support...'		Jan 09 17:02
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Same in the UK these days... https://t.co/WktMdVv38x'		Jan 09 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @SenSanders Same in the UK these days... https://t.co/WktMdVv38x		Jan 09 17:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 17:10
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge...'		Jan 09 17:15
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge...'		Jan 09 17:15
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 17:19
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Russia has not much to do with...'		Jan 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950780573735440386	Jan 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	9 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Developers (2018	Jan 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	Edition)	Jan 09 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQ3QjkDnVd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 09 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950782332109312001	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 9 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Developers (2018	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Edition)	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQ3QjkDnVd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 09 18:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/950793844701896704	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Ubuntu-Based OS in 2018 https://t.co/azS8TbTiwx	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 18:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/950793889832607744	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Number of #Security Fixes https://t.co/NmFXlkWsn2	Jan 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 18:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited '#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge...'		Jan 09 18:38
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Peace can be started by not selectively...'		Jan 09 18:45
*TweetTuxMachines @pedrojmartm favourited '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/950803793850986496	Jan 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by 9 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Developers (2018	Jan 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tecknocrat Edition)	Jan 09 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQ3QjkDnVd (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 09 18:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 9 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Developers (2018 Edition) \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 18:57
MinceR	https://hackernoon.com/im-harvesting-credit-card-numbers-and-passwords-from-your-site-here-s-how-9a8cb347c5b5	Jan 09 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com \| I’m harvesting credit card numbers and passwords from your site. Here’s how.		Jan 09 19:05
schestowitz	seen that and linked to it	Jan 09 19:17
schestowitz	medium slaughters my site	Jan 09 19:17
schestowitz	I mean, myu browser	Jan 09 19:17
schestowitz	something in the JS	Jan 09 19:17
MinceR	yeah, their layout is nasty as well	Jan 09 19:18
MinceR	big fucking bar on the bottom trying to get me to subscribe to something	Jan 09 19:18
MinceR	so it got a shiny new rule on ublock origin :>	Jan 09 19:18
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/kmNDLrl.jpg	Jan 09 19:21
XRevan86	SourceForge has changed it's UI a bit: https://sourceforge.net/blog/introducing-the-new-sourceforge	Jan 09 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net \| Introducing the new SourceForge - SourceForge Community Blog		Jan 09 19:25
XRevan86	It's actually… still pretty bad.	Jan 09 19:25
MinceR	:>	Jan 09 19:26
XRevan86	the overcomplicated hierarchy that makes it so inferior to GitLab, gogs, anything else is… unchanged	Jan 09 19:26
*TweetTuxMachines @tecknocrat favourited '9 Best Linux Distros For Programming And Developers...'		Jan 09 19:34
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/9gVhmci.jpg	Jan 09 19:48
*TweetTuxMachines @cpbjackson favourited '#System76 Continues to Improve HiDPI Support for Their...'		Jan 09 19:58
MinceR	https://pics.me.me/dear-atheists-if-there-is-no-god-then-explain-how-16303475.png	Jan 09 20:06
XRevan86	MinceR: aliens with antigravity	Jan 09 20:07
MinceR	or just this weird trick with a rope	Jan 09 20:07
XRevan86	MinceR: The famous rope invisibility cloak?	Jan 09 20:08
XRevan86	First there's a person and then BAM, there's no person.	Jan 09 20:08
MinceR	no	Jan 09 20:08
MinceR	this one takes a bit longer	Jan 09 20:08
XRevan86	MinceR: So it's like a gradual mysterious disappearing into the darkness	Jan 09 20:27
MinceR	not even all that mysterious	Jan 09 20:27
MinceR	rather, a transition from living to dead followed by a transition from mostly intact to unrecognizable	Jan 09 20:28
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Trump supporters aren't the sharpest tool in...'		Jan 09 20:34
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenWarren "Republican colleagues" https://t.co/o9UxijcQHD'		Jan 09 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @SenWarren "Republican colleagues" https://t.co/o9UxijcQHD		Jan 09 20:35
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@Lyrical_Mullbag @guardian No, would be detained if he...'		Jan 09 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/950829266735960065	Jan 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge	Jan 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel Number of #Security Fixes https://t.co/NmFXlkWsn2	Jan 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950830443619868673	Jan 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Western Digital, Microsoft, WPA3, NSA	Jan 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ieSMwiKVWf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 20:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 20:47
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/dsLsCvX	Jan 09 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Mechanical Problems - GIF on Imgur		Jan 09 21:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950831488328708098	Jan 09 21:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: Updates, Western Digital, Microsoft, WPA3, NSA	Jan 09 21:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/ieSMwiKVWf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 21:08
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders Small man feels empowered over foreign men...'		Jan 09 21:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@SenSanders He said the wall in Germany worked...'		Jan 09 21:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950847580078006274	Jan 09 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	Best Linux Screenshot & Screencasting Tools	Jan 09 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YtVv8Hnrb3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 21:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Linux Screenshot & Screencasting Tools \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 21:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950847811234476033	Jan 09 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	#openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped	Jan 09 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	Releases Built with KIWI https://t.co/KtJFmGn582	Jan 09 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 21:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Best Linux Screenshot & Screencasting Tools https://t.co/YtVv8Hnrb3'		Jan 09 21:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped Releases Built...'		Jan 09 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950849273591222272	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	Applications 17.12 and Qt 5.10 https://t.co/a30UKUDoS6	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950849392830971907	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Leftovers https://t.co/C4YF6M2iEP	Jan 09 21:59
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 21:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 21:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped Releases Built...'		Jan 09 21:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE...'		Jan 09 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950849815990226944	Jan 09 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux	Jan 09 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	OS Has a New Release https://t.co/ly9MbTFA41	Jan 09 22:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Parted Magic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS Has a New Release \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950851102957821952	Jan 09 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE	Jan 09 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Applications 17.12 and Qt 5.10 https://t.co/a30UKUDoS6	Jan 09 22:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:06
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 22:06
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 09 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950852426159960064	Jan 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Android Leftovers https://t.co/C4YF6M2iEP	Jan 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 09 22:14
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE...'		Jan 09 22:14
*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE...'		Jan 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/PABHERE/status/950854361105813504	Jan 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux	Jan 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	@PABHERE OS Has a New Release https://t.co/ly9MbTFA41	Jan 09 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @PABHERE favourited '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 09 22:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950856416532811776	Jan 09 22:29
TweetTuxMachines	#Debian vs. Linux Mint: The Winner Is?	Jan 09 22:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Qm3NkA1F8j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian vs. Linux Mint: The Winner Is? \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 22:29
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 22:29
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Debian vs. Linux Mint: The Winner Is? ...'		Jan 09 22:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Purrcival/status/950857336062701568	Jan 09 22:48
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Debian vs. Linux Mint: The Winner Is?	Jan 09 22:48
TweetTuxMachines	@Purrcival https://t.co/Qm3NkA1F8j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:48
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines favourited '@wikileaks Bully @Conservatives party.... They have been...'		Jan 09 22:49
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 09 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ohiotechlibrary/status/950862090134278144	Jan 09 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge	Jan 09 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@ohiotechlibrary Number of #Security Fixes https://t.co/NmFXlkWsn2	Jan 09 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge Number of Security Fixes \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 22:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE...'		Jan 09 22:49
*TweetTuxMachines @ohiotechlibrary favourited '#IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge...'		Jan 09 22:49
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited '#openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped Releases Built...'		Jan 09 22:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950864755144638465	Jan 09 23:47
TweetTuxMachines	#Fedora 28 Toolchain: #GCC 8, #Binutils 2.29.1, #Glibc	Jan 09 23:47
TweetTuxMachines	2.27 https://t.co/6zD4dRicvu (www.phoronix.com) #redhat	Jan 09 23:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted '#Fedora 28 Toolchain: #GCC 8, #Binutils 2.29.1, #Glibc...'		Jan 09 23:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950876635783286785	Jan 09 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	Programming/Development: QC, Rust, GCC	Jan 09 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mqxGL3t3sY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 23:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Programming/Development: QC, Rust, GCC \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950877104769568770	Jan 09 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	BSD: #LLVM and #OpenBSD	Jan 09 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1CnDla2Xox (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 23:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 23:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950878090670039042	Jan 09 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	OSS leftovers	Jan 09 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Uo4LFGTdct (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 23:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BSD: LLVM and OpenBSD \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 23:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'BSD: #LLVM and #OpenBSD https://t.co/1CnDla2Xox...'		Jan 09 23:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Programming/Development: QC, Rust, GCC https://t.co/mqxGL3t3sY...'		Jan 09 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 23:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS leftovers https://t.co/Uo4LFGTdct...'		Jan 09 23:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950879047680253952	Jan 09 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	Huawei's Android and Razer's #Android	Jan 09 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NxAuP02Mi5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 09 23:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 09 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Huawei's Android and Razer's Android \| Tux Machines		Jan 09 23:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950879542117371904	Jan 10 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora	Jan 10 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LeNxa6cAya (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950879942727827461	Jan 10 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	Security leftovers	Jan 10 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LtcxWEaanS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950881125437763589	Jan 10 00:07
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla leftovers	Jan 10 00:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7i9wQjOjfL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950881673989718017	Jan 10 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 10 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kcqQtU0Aaf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950882142418030595	Jan 10 00:11
TweetTuxMachines	Software and Games: TEA Ebook, Akiee, KDE Discover	Jan 10 00:11
TweetTuxMachines	Software Center and More	Jan 10 00:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LIiVjs7mAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950882588075405315	Jan 10 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, the Linux Foundation, and Graphics	Jan 10 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uCAdzXIb1w (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux, the Linux Foundation, and Graphics \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950883029517590529	Jan 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	Servers: Private Servers, Kubernetes Highlights	Jan 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/56iyqj9V8y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Servers: Private Servers, Kubernetes Highlights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950883733435011072	Jan 10 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/uSCaHXnZfc	Jan 10 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ilox101/status/950884308964618240	Jan 10 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux	Jan 10 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	@ilox101 OS Has a New Release https://t.co/ly9MbTFA41	Jan 10 00:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:17
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*TweetTuxMachines @ilox101 favourited '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 10 00:20
*TweetTuxMachines @ilox101 favourited '#openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped Releases Built...'		Jan 10 00:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/ilox101/status/950884899371630594	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@ilox101 Releases Built with KIWI https://t.co/KtJFmGn582	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950885397961363461	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Huawei's Android and Razer's #Android	Jan 10 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/NxAuP02Mi5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950885416550436864	Jan 10 00:24
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Red Hat and Fedora	Jan 10 00:24
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LeNxa6cAya (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 00:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/950885986803900416	Jan 10 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	Links 9/1/2018: CES Products and DRM in Linux	Jan 10 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mb3FO6FWPM (techrights.org)	Jan 10 00:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/X_Pensive_Wino/status/950886636547657728	Jan 10 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux, the Linux Foundation, and Graphics	Jan 10 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@X_Pensive_Wino https://t.co/uCAdzXIb1w (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @X_Pensive_Wino favourited 'Linux, the Linux Foundation, and Graphics https://t.co/uCAdzXIb1w...'		Jan 10 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950893143184101377	Jan 10 00:53
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security leftovers	Jan 10 00:53
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LtcxWEaanS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 00:53
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TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 00:53
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security leftovers https://t.co/LtcxWEaanS...'		Jan 10 00:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950893305696522240	Jan 10 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Mozilla leftovers	Jan 10 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/7i9wQjOjfL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895105292034048	Jan 10 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos	Jan 10 01:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/kcqQtU0Aaf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895122966827008	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Software and Games: TEA Ebook, Akiee, KDE Discover	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Software Center and More	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LIiVjs7mAr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software and Games: TEA Ebook, Akiee, KDE Discover Software Center and More \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895148338237441	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux, the Linux Foundation, and Graphics	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/uCAdzXIb1w (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895174489706496	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Servers: Private Servers, Kubernetes Highlights	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/56iyqj9V8y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Servers: Private Servers, Kubernetes Highlights \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895415607611397	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's leftovers https://t.co/uSCaHXnZfc	Jan 10 01:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/950895445840101376	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 9/1/2018: CES Products and DRM in Linux	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/mb3FO6FWPM (techrights.org)	Jan 10 01:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/950895721473036288	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel Releases Built with KIWI https://t.co/KtJFmGn582	Jan 10 01:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/950895752846413824	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel Applications 17.12 and Qt 5.10 https://t.co/a30UKUDoS6	Jan 10 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 01:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/AlejosAngel/status/950895854415736832	Jan 10 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux	Jan 10 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	@AlejosAngel OS Has a New Release https://t.co/ly9MbTFA41	Jan 10 02:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/950930970659643392	Jan 10 03:24
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #IPFire Open Source Firewall Linux Distro Gets Huge	Jan 10 03:24
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 Number of #Security Fixes https://t.co/NmFXlkWsn2	Jan 10 03:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/950931188247490560	Jan 10 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE	Jan 10 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 Applications 17.12 and Qt 5.10 https://t.co/a30UKUDoS6	Jan 10 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 03:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/950932540017205248	Jan 10 03:29
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux	Jan 10 03:30
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 OS Has a New Release https://t.co/ly9MbTFA41	Jan 10 03:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 03:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/950932685102264320	Jan 10 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #openSUSE Based #GeckoLinux Receives New, Revamped	Jan 10 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 Releases Built with KIWI https://t.co/KtJFmGn582	Jan 10 03:54
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/iNTAl	Jan 10 06:59
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MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/IgRrD7c	Jan 10 07:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @jpbeneke favourited '#PartedMagic Disk Partitioning, Cloning and Rescue Linux OS...'		Jan 10 08:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951032403027521537	Jan 10 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	With Linux, You Don't Get One Kernel of Truth... You Get	Jan 10 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	Many	Jan 10 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RCxHU6yvyN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 10:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| With Linux, You Don't Get One Kernel of Truth... You Get Many \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951032727771533312	Jan 10 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	Sayonara: A Beautiful Lightweight Music Player Has Its	Jan 10 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	First Stable Release https://t.co/lS38vhymGC	Jan 10 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sayonara: A Beautiful Lightweight Music Player Has Its First Stable Release \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 10:09
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 10:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'With Linux, You Don't Get One Kernel of...'		Jan 10 10:09
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Sayonara: A Beautiful Lightweight Music Player Has Its...'		Jan 10 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951033600522276864	Jan 10 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	The Combined Impact Of #Retpoline + #KPTI On #Ubuntu	Jan 10 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	#Linux	Jan 10 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mEBHHEepqv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 10:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Combined Impact Of Retpoline + KPTI On Ubuntu Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 10:11
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The Combined Impact Of #Retpoline + #KPTI On...'		Jan 10 10:19
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*TweetTuxMachines @IrdiMerzheku favourited '#Chakra GNU/Linux Users Get KDE #Plasma 5.11.5, #KDE...'		Jan 10 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951050312843972608	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Meltdown and Spectre Patches	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9tCShzk02j (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Meltdown and Spectre Patches \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951050684694237184	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Releases Security Patch For #Meltdown	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AcBloqjmmn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Releases Security Patch For Meltdown \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 11:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951050890319888384	Jan 10 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	#Android Things and Google Assistant appear in new smart	Jan 10 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	speakers, smart displays, and modules	Jan 10 11:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tthnWdXypL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 11:24
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Things and Google Assistant appear in new smart speakers, smart displays, and modules \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 11:24
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Meltdown and Spectre Patches https://t.co/9tCShzk02j...'		Jan 10 11:25
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Ubuntu Releases Security Patch For #Meltdown https://t.co/AcBloqjmmn'		Jan 10 11:25
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Android Things and Google Assistant appear in new...'		Jan 10 11:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951053388535549952	Jan 10 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	8 unusual FOSS tools for agile teams	Jan 10 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/m92Xz8wsZC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 11:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 8 unusual FOSS tools for agile teams \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951053637614260225	Jan 10 11:32
TweetTuxMachines	Top 5 Open Source Firewalls for Business	Jan 10 11:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aHdqYIKTAs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 11:32
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Top 5 Open Source Firewalls for Business \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 11:32
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '8 unusual FOSS tools for agile teams https://t.co/m92Xz8wsZC'		Jan 10 11:32
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '8 unusual FOSS tools for agile teams https://t.co/m92Xz8wsZC'		Jan 10 11:32
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Top 5 Open Source Firewalls for Business https://t.co/aHdqYIKTAs'		Jan 10 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/hughbarnard/status/951054358833192960	Jan 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Top 5 Open Source Firewalls for Business	Jan 10 12:23
TweetTuxMachines	@hughbarnard https://t.co/aHdqYIKTAs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 12:23
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julius__	European Parliament mission to the EPO in Dec 2017	Jan 10 15:21
julius__	Programme and report: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/juri/events-missions.html?id=20171205MIS00421	Jan 10 15:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951145024082890752	Jan 10 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	Release \| #EndlessOS Version 3.3.8	Jan 10 17:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7DuzTpP36F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 17:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Release \| Endless OS Version 3.3.8 \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 17:35
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Release \| #EndlessOS Version 3.3.8 https://t.co/7DuzTpP36F...'		Jan 10 17:40
DaemonFC	MinceR: Watching American Greed again. This one is about some guy who ripped off a bunch of rich wine snobs in California.	Jan 10 18:59
DaemonFC	He turned a "pre-order" system into a ponzi scheme and nobody noticed for a long time because it's apparently normal to buy wine that won't finish aging for years.	Jan 10 19:00
DaemonFC	If he hadn't called attention to himself by buying over a dozen sports cars and a bunch of escorts that were young enough to be his daughters, he probably would have kept going for many years.	Jan 10 19:04
DaemonFC	http://news.softpedia.com/news/intel-releases-processor-microcode-patch-for-linux-oses-here-s-how-to-update-519316.shtml	Jan 10 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Intel Releases Processor Microcode Patch for Linux OSes, Here's How to Update		Jan 10 19:07
DaemonFC	"While the regular approach to getting this microcode update is via a BIOS update, Intel realizes that this can be an administrative hassle."	Jan 10 19:07
DaemonFC	Yeah, maybe bricking your $1,400 computer is an administrative hassle.	Jan 10 19:08
MinceR	tickling bugs in the unreliable, byzantine, baroque mess that is uefi (in part via intel's fault) is "an administrative hassle" now	Jan 10 19:09
DaemonFC	MinceR: When a driver from Intel that addresses the firmware in a way that should work and then ends up setting it all to read only happens.... Well, consider that. Intel can't make it work right and they invented it.	Jan 10 19:12
DaemonFC	System firmware should be the minimum possible to get the system in a state where the operating system can take over and finish from there.	Jan 10 19:13
DaemonFC	uEFI is an operating system, and a terrible one.	Jan 10 19:13
DaemonFC	The only reason it would ever need to have this much stuff is if it wanted to be able to do nasty things to the user.	Jan 10 19:14
*TweetTuxMachines @hsyn_ckr favourited 'The 5 best Linux distros for the enterprise:...'		Jan 10 19:16
DaemonFC	http://news.softpedia.com/news/security-flaw-in-macos-10-13-lets-app-store-preferences-access-with-any-password-519319.shtml	Jan 10 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951170800031289345	Jan 10 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	Security: WPA3, Intel, and Tails	Jan 10 19:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/c59l0UaHDo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:18
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Security Flaw in macOS 10.13 Lets App Store Preferences Access with Any Password		Jan 10 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: WPA3, Intel, and Tails \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:18
schestowitz	DaemonFC: ah	Jan 10 19:29
schestowitz	again	Jan 10 19:29
schestowitz	"errata"	Jan 10 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/951171471065452550	Jan 10 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Security: WPA3, Intel, and Tails	Jan 10 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/c59l0UaHDo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951176124113080320	Jan 10 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	Vipul Siddharth: How Do You Fedora?	Jan 10 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/hX9FDdHaEH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Vipul Siddharth: How Do You Fedora? \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951176269181407232	Jan 10 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	Rugged mobile gateway runs Linux https://t.co/IWcj6uILEj	Jan 10 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rugged mobile gateway runs Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Vipul Siddharth: How Do You Fedora? https://t.co/hX9FDdHaEH'		Jan 10 19:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Rugged mobile gateway runs Linux https://t.co/IWcj6uILEj'		Jan 10 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951177672092274688	Jan 10 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-on: Raspberry Pi Zero 3-Port USB Hub with Ethernet	Jan 10 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/F08w6PLOUL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-on: Raspberry Pi Zero 3-Port USB Hub with Ethernet \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951177712915402753	Jan 10 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	Oath’s Top 5 Open Source Goals https://t.co/OuSuwcIyJX	Jan 10 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Oath’s Top 5 Open Source Goals \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:44
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Hands-on: Raspberry Pi Zero 3-Port USB Hub with...'		Jan 10 19:46
*TweetTuxMachines @zerosecunclosed retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Hands-on: Raspberry Pi Zero 3-Port USB Hub with...'		Jan 10 19:46
*TweetTuxMachines @zerosecunclosed favourited 'Hands-on: Raspberry Pi Zero 3-Port USB Hub with...'		Jan 10 19:47
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Oath’s Top 5 Open Source Goals https://t.co/OuSuwcIyJX'		Jan 10 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951179183471972352	Jan 10 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel: Linux 4.14.13, Linux 4.9.76 and Linux	Jan 10 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	4.4.111 https://t.co/YvUcjWwLxM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:52
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel: Linux 4.14.13, Linux 4.9.76 and Linux 4.4.111 \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951179817377988608	Jan 10 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/EpYGGhShpb	Jan 10 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 19:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 19:53
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Linux Kernel: Linux 4.14.13, Linux 4.9.76 and Linux...'		Jan 10 19:54
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Android Leftovers https://t.co/EpYGGhShpb'		Jan 10 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951181737500999680	Jan 10 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	Games on GNU/Linux	Jan 10 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LFEX6QfPOS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 20:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Games on GNU/Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 20:02
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MinceR	https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2018/01/10/29aa8756244b9185.mp4	Jan 10 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/951182472582258689	Jan 10 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games on GNU/Linux	Jan 10 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz https://t.co/LFEX6QfPOS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951197745058074625	Jan 10 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	OSMC's December update is here with Debian Stretch and	Jan 10 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	Kodi 17.6	Jan 10 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iEp0SEyHrc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:25
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951203154250649600	Jan 10 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	#Kubuntu 17.10 upgrade - Should you?	Jan 10 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oYmtHKp2TO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:26
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSMC's December update is here with Debian Stretch...'		Jan 10 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSMC's December update is here with Debian Stretch and Kodi 17.6 \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kubuntu 17.10 upgrade - Should you? \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:26
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Kubuntu 17.10 upgrade - Should you? https://t.co/oYmtHKp2TO...'		Jan 10 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951204992928624641	Jan 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	Security: Updates, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, IBM and Linux	Jan 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qFposvf9TB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security: Updates, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, IBM and Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951205572728193027	Jan 10 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	OSS Leftovers	Jan 10 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3yR5caYJsM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951205992687128576	Jan 10 21:40
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Leftovers	Jan 10 21:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/13hsyUyMCM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Debian Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Security: Updates, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, IBM and Linux...'		Jan 10 21:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'OSS Leftovers https://t.co/3yR5caYJsM...'		Jan 10 21:40
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Debian Leftovers https://t.co/13hsyUyMCM...'		Jan 10 21:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951207734246039553	Jan 10 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 10 21:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lLD6basBDz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951208866561298433	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	Software: Cockpit, notmuch, Jumble Password, Tableau and	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/0lWSjV3KvQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Software: Cockpit, notmuch, Jumble Password, Tableau and GNOME \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951209381235974144	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BrkGbLQsvd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 10 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951209480833904646	Jan 10 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	Links 19/1/2018: Cockpit 159, Endless OS 3.3.8, Tails 3.4	Jan 10 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2NmtY5nFxh (techrights.org)	Jan 10 21:52
TweetTuxMachines		Jan 10 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 19/1/2018: Cockpit 159, Endless OS 3.3.8, Tails 3.4 \| Techrights		Jan 10 21:52
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'today's howtos https://t.co/lLD6basBDz...'		Jan 10 21:53
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Software: Cockpit, notmuch, Jumble Password, Tableau and GNOME...'		Jan 10 21:53
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/TCU5Gzc.jpg	Jan 10 21:53
XRevan86	MinceR: I don't get it	Jan 10 21:54
XRevan86	Is that related to him wearing gloves? %)	Jan 10 21:55
MinceR	no	Jan 10 21:55
MinceR	medusa turned people into stone with a gaze	Jan 10 21:55
XRevan86	He looks like he's about to do a surgical operation	Jan 10 21:55
XRevan86	MinceR: Ah, the greek mythos medusa	Jan 10 21:55
XRevan86	So, Jesus was about to make a surgical operation and then Medusa turned him into stone.	Jan 10 21:56
XRevan86	possibly accidentally, maybe he was making an operation on her	Jan 10 21:56
DaemonFC	https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/10/macos-high-sierra-app-store-password-bug/amp/	Jan 10 22:02
DaemonFC	MinceR:	Jan 10 22:02
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MinceR	>Our customers deserve better.	Jan 10 22:40
MinceR	then why do they buy crApple products?	Jan 10 22:40
schestowitz	true	Jan 10 22:46
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DaemonFC	MinceR: You'd think some basic regression testing would have caught "Anyone can change software installation settings with any password they type in.".	Jan 11 02:43
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the problem with regression testing some to the most direct is presumed correct and never checked.	Jan 11 02:46
oiaohm	DaemonFC: think grub password issue.	Jan 11 02:47
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://thehackernews.com/2015/12/hack-linux-grub-password.html << This one	Jan 11 02:48
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cubexyz	another wrinkle with the old scsi scanner: it has to be on and connected to the computer during a boot	Jan 11 03:25
oiaohm	cubexyz: so old enough not to support hotplug.	Jan 11 03:27
oiaohm	cubexyz: some of the early scsi are not hotplug.	Jan 11 03:28
cubexyz	unfortunately my BC-20 ink cartridge has fossilized	Jan 11 03:28
cubexyz	the damed things should be date coded :-/	Jan 11 03:28
cubexyz	oiaohm, very plausible	Jan 11 03:28
cubexyz	the scsi controller card seems a bit problematic	Jan 11 03:29
DaemonFC	Consumer electronics seem to be getting worse in more ways than one.	Jan 11 03:29
oiaohm	cubexyz: you would have to check the specification some of the early controllers also were not hotplug.	Jan 11 03:30
oiaohm	cubexyz: scsi hotplugging with 1 item not hotplug equal at times insanely.	Jan 11 03:30
cubexyz	also my old laserjet (1997) needs a new fuser... but I'm determinted to get it working again	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	He has a computer from 1998 that still works and my Lenovo Yoga that I bought in 2016 already has a fan rattling.	Jan 11 03:30
cubexyz	old stuff is good :)	Jan 11 03:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there are differences in build quality.	Jan 11 03:31
cubexyz	this dell I'm typing on is from 2001... I think	Jan 11 03:31
oiaohm	DaemonFC: I had a laptop from 1998 that was dead by 1999	Jan 11 03:31
cubexyz	laptops go faster though	Jan 11 03:32
oiaohm	DaemonFC: basically my first laptop only lasted its 12 month warnaty and 1 day.	Jan 11 03:32
cubexyz	yes, confirmed, Dell GX110 from 2001... of course it's a P3	Jan 11 03:33
oiaohm	I have a pent MMX 233 mhz that still works.	Jan 11 03:34
cubexyz	my amiga 500 from 1987 works too, although I only turn it on to check it once a year	Jan 11 03:34
oiaohm	But I also on my 5 CPU in that system.	Jan 11 03:34
oiaohm	DaemonFC: some items last some items don't/	Jan 11 03:34
cubexyz	fan failure is a big problem in laptops	Jan 11 03:37
cubexyz	the fan _has_ to work or the computer could damage itself... assuming it's not fanless	Jan 11 03:37
cubexyz	oiaohm, if I knew of any fanless P3 laptops I'd probably buy one	Jan 11 03:38
cubexyz	very suspicious that the cpu failed that many times though	Jan 11 03:40
oiaohm	cubexyz: I am not sure you want a fanless P3 laptop. Its more of a lug it top.	Jan 11 03:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: I know of one from military usage. Is only 20cm thick.	Jan 11 03:42
cubexyz	maybe I'll just stick with the chromebook then	Jan 11 03:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: scary part is is weight was 30kg	Jan 11 03:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: what happens when you decide to build totally durablity.	Jan 11 03:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: it was one of the early Getac laptops.	Jan 11 03:46
cubexyz	very expensive brand if I remember correctly	Jan 11 03:47
oiaohm	cubexyz: o yes expensive and some of their laptops are strong enough to use as a hammer without damaging them.	Jan 11 03:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: so price is partly justified by some of the insane build quality.	Jan 11 03:49
cubexyz	people chuck out so much stuff I've got a whole room filled with old computer fixer uppers	Jan 11 03:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: key word fixer uppers. A lot was not good build quality to start with.	Jan 11 03:58
cubexyz	ps -	Jan 11 03:59
cubexyz	the inkjets will probably never get fixed	Jan 11 04:01
cubexyz	but the laserjets... I can fix those	Jan 11 04:01
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oiaohm	cubexyz: inkjet print heads die when not in usage. Laser printers have ablity to be stored.	Jan 11 04:48
cubexyz	oiaohm, $100 for a new fuser for the old laserjet... OR I can buy a new laserjet for about $200	Jan 11 04:51
cubexyz	or if one is feeling extra brave you can just buy the fuser film sleeve and DIY	Jan 11 04:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: I mostly don't repair laser normally by time fuser goes the transport system for paper is getting questionable.	Jan 11 04:54
oiaohm	cubexyz: like if the laser is like 6 months old and it does it then repair but 4 to 5 year+ old in 24/7 usage and it goes they are mostly at the point of everythng else is stuffed.	Jan 11 04:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: injects in the hot climent where I am there is a big habit to replacement every 6 to 12 months because the heads will show trouble otherwise.	Jan 11 04:56
cubexyz	couldn't you fix the transport system?	Jan 11 04:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: when you add in the cost of doing the rollers bearings .... in the paper transport system without you time its normally more than the new machine.	Jan 11 04:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: it that questionable roller bearings and rollers that see the older lasers get every increasing printer jam problems.	Jan 11 04:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: it if was properly cost effective I would repair them.	Jan 11 04:59
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I have rebuilt a few really old lasers form display usage. But that a different matter since it a historic display item spending up to twice as much as a new printer can be justified.	Jan 11 05:01
oiaohm	cubexyz: also the really really old ones from the 1980s were in fact designed to be disassembled.	Jan 11 05:02
oiaohm	The most insane thing about 1980 printers is some of the internal cabling is exact length requires + 0.5 of a mm so run wire slightly wrong way its not connecting up ever.	Jan 11 05:04
oiaohm	There is more slack in the non repairable plastic clip assembled of the 1990s	Jan 11 05:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: my first computer job was rebuilding printers.	Jan 11 05:07
cubexyz	you do seem pretty knowledgeable about printers :)	Jan 11 05:07
oiaohm	After doing the job for 3 years doing about 4 printers a day if I had not learnt anything there would have been a problem.	Jan 11 05:10
oiaohm	Please note that was printers and photocopiers.	Jan 11 05:10
oiaohm	back then.	Jan 11 05:10
oiaohm	cubexyz: when I stopped it has started to become not that cost effective to repair. Mostly because the newer printers were not being built to be disasmbled without risking breaking stuff.	Jan 11 05:12
cubexyz	I have a HP laserjet 5N	Jan 11 05:12
oiaohm	cubexyz: breaking the kind of the wrong word. breaking or warping it should be.	Jan 11 05:13
oiaohm	cubexyz: HP LaserJet 5 they are lighter in fram than the HP LaserJet 4. You can work the 4 simple. 5 you have to be careful not to warp the frame.	Jan 11 05:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: a HP LaserJet 5 with a warpped frame will paper jam every second page at times. And I am only talking a 2 mm warp as well.	Jan 11 05:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: with care that HP Laserjet 5N can be fixed up. It is a 1990s machine needing more care in the process. Its not like the year 2000+ stuff that is even worse.	Jan 11 05:18
cubexyz	yeah I'm going to try to fix it	Jan 11 05:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: big thing don't think of using brute force to attempt to get it apart.	Jan 11 05:19
cubexyz	replacing the fuser is easy... just remove two screws	Jan 11 05:19
oiaohm	cubexyz: or you will fail for sure.	Jan 11 05:19
cubexyz	never force anything, yes :)	Jan 11 05:19
oiaohm	Also have it on a nice stable bench before removing screws.	Jan 11 05:19
oiaohm	Ie make sure its support properly so it does not warp on you just because you have opened an area up.	Jan 11 05:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: Basically this is just higher level of due care.	Jan 11 05:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: HP LaserJet 4 you could get away with doing a fuser change with it sitting on you lap.	Jan 11 05:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: do that to a HP LaserJet 5 and it will absolutely be out to get you after.	Jan 11 05:22
oiaohm	cubexyz: HP was slower at degrading the frame quality than many of the other laser makers.	Jan 11 05:24
MinceR	DaemonFC: but testing is not "modern"	Jan 11 06:15
MinceR	it's a lot more profitable to slap a crApple sticker on half-baked crap that's never been tested	Jan 11 06:15
MinceR	and the consumers buy it all the same	Jan 11 06:15
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oiaohm	MinceR: testing is kind of modern. Old Enterprise was don't change anything ever and work around what ever bugs you find,	Jan 11 07:44
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oiaohm	http://yeokhengmeng.com/2018/01/make-the-486-great-again/ This makes windows 10 only supporting hardware back to 2012 look so far in fail its not funny.	Jan 11 07:55
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cubexyz	you know when we should have kicked out Microsoft?	Jan 11 12:03
cubexyz	1994	Jan 11 12:03
cubexyz	I suppose 1987 was possible with minix	Jan 11 12:04
cubexyz	you were really lucky you would have used Unix in 1974... before Microsoft even existed	Jan 11 12:05
cubexyz	if...	Jan 11 12:05
schestowitz	1994	Jan 11 12:05
schestowitz	which distro?	Jan 11 12:06
schestowitz	BSD?	Jan 11 12:06
cubexyz	well I used darkstar which was derived from slackware	Jan 11 12:06
cubexyz	yeah FreeBSD or Yggdrasil even before that	Jan 11 12:07
cubexyz	things seemed to start coalescing around 1994	Jan 11 12:08
cubexyz	FreeBSD 2.0 was pretty soon afterwards: Jan 1995	Jan 11 12:09
cubexyz	I know the first Freenet in Canada... trying to remember the year...	Jan 11 12:11
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cubexyz	aha... I found it	Jan 11 12:13
cubexyz	CBC reported on the first freenet in Canada in 1994	Jan 11 12:13
cubexyz	anyways I know they were running the ISP on FreeBSD	Jan 11 12:14
cubexyz	probably an earlier version of:	Jan 11 12:14
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/freebsd-1994.jpeg	Jan 11 12:14
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cubexyz	duh	Jan 11 12:15
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/freebsd-1995.jpeg	Jan 11 12:15
cubexyz	I wrote a blog about this a while ago	Jan 11 12:17
cubexyz	I didn't emphasize the importance of the time period, but it was pretty important	Jan 11 12:17
schestowitz	file renamed?	Jan 11 12:18
cubexyz	1995 :)	Jan 11 12:18
cubexyz	I corrected it after	Jan 11 12:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: I used that version of freebsd	Jan 11 12:18
schestowitz	you administer a site from the CLI	Jan 11 12:18
schestowitz	welcome to 1995	Jan 11 12:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: only last week	Jan 11 12:19
cubexyz	1995 was good and bad	Jan 11 12:19
cubexyz	don't forget win95	Jan 11 12:19
oiaohm	cubexyz: to be correct found system swore and replaced it job with a rasbery pi	Jan 11 12:19
cubexyz	Unix peeps don't say CLI :)	Jan 11 12:20
cubexyz	we say shell	Jan 11 12:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: depends on the Unix group.	Jan 11 12:20
cubexyz	we never said CLI... that's practically a retronym	Jan 11 12:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEPGG_10.5.0/com.ibm.db2.luw.apdv.cli.doc/doc/r0007654.html HPUX documentation and IBM documentation around Unix does use CLI.	Jan 11 12:21
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oiaohm	cubexyz: so people trained form those on Unix do use CLI	Jan 11 12:22
oiaohm	cubexyz: so by term usage you can guess at times the person training background.	Jan 11 12:22
cubexyz	yeah afterwards they did	Jan 11 12:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: bsd and Linux people are likely to say shell instead of CLI	Jan 11 12:23
oiaohm	cubexyz: IBM and HPUX where using CLI as a term in the late 1970 early 1980s.	Jan 11 12:23
cubexyz	we said shell on the amiga too	Jan 11 12:24
cubexyz	yeah Command Line Interface sounds like something IBM would say	Jan 11 12:25
oiaohm	cubexyz: so Unix peeps don't say CLI is wrong. some groups of Unix people don't use the term CLI. Like those working on solaris would more likely use the word terminal not shell or CLI	Jan 11 12:25
oiaohm	cubexyz: I understand the mistake think you are talking AIX and HPUX in the Unix world using the term CLI they were also the more expensive stuff.	Jan 11 12:26
cubexyz	I remember Xenix people saying "command interpreter"	Jan 11 12:28
cubexyz	that's the closest I remember	Jan 11 12:28
cubexyz	this CLI stuff is revisionist	Jan 11 12:28
oiaohm	This kind of shows mess unix was.	Jan 11 12:29
cubexyz	read any old Xenix or Unix book	Jan 11 12:29
oiaohm	Where each unix had a different terms for the same things.	Jan 11 12:29
cubexyz	it won't say CLI	Jan 11 12:29
oiaohm	The old IBM AIX and old HPUX manuals do.	Jan 11 12:29
oiaohm	So that is stuff straight from the 1970s and 1980s.	Jan 11 12:30
cubexyz	that's got to be an IBM thing	Jan 11 12:31
oiaohm	Remember that is still inside the world of Unix.	Jan 11 12:31
oiaohm	And even looking at different Unix books at the time you will find them changing between shell, terminal, tty... and few other things to describe a command line interface.	Jan 11 12:32
oiaohm	Basically early Unix is quite a term mangled mess.	Jan 11 12:32
cubexyz	originally it was a teletypewriter, yes	Jan 11 12:33
cubexyz	I can only imagine how much paper was wasted	Jan 11 12:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: I don't know how but tty is somehow the short hand for teletypewriter	Jan 11 12:34
cubexyz	TeleTYpewriter	Jan 11 12:35
oiaohm	>>teleprinter (teletypewriter, Teletype or TTY) i<< Maybe what you siad. It might be purely from the teletype bit.	Jan 11 12:36
oiaohm	cubexyz: it had a few too many names as well.	Jan 11 12:36
oiaohm	cubexyz: so the machine had 4 names.	Jan 11 12:36
cubexyz	excuse my pedantry but I never heard the term CLI until much later on	Jan 11 12:38
oiaohm	cubexyz: unless you were playing with a lot of HPUX or IBM stuff you did not hear it until latter on.	Jan 11 12:38
oiaohm	cubexyz: and of course Microsoft usage of CLI as a term comes from their contact with IBM.	Jan 11 12:39
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cubexyz	I can't really remember anyone using straight Unix at IBM	Jan 11 12:40
cubexyz	IBM never used PDP-11s as far as I know	Jan 11 12:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: AIX is a Unix from IBM in starts in 1986. IBM writes there first manuals in 1979 for bell labs stuff.	Jan 11 12:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: remember IBM has been a support and training company for a very long time.	Jan 11 12:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: HPUX 1982 and you do see a link between people trained at IBM working at HPUX at that time.	Jan 11 12:43
cubexyz	AIX on IBM RTs, who used those? :)	Jan 11 12:44
cubexyz	you know the hobbyists weren't	Jan 11 12:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: As I said we are talking the expensive end of the Unix world here.	Jan 11 12:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: both of us early one mostly hung out in the cheaper end.	Jan 11 12:45
cubexyz	there was a lot of 68000 stuff earlier on	Jan 11 12:45
cubexyz	Sun, NCR, probably other ones	Jan 11 12:45
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cubexyz	I just thought there should have been a bigger exodus to Unix/BSD/Linux/whatever back in 1994	Jan 11 12:47
cubexyz	we had the cheap 386's by then	Jan 11 12:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: its easy to look back at Unix with rose colour glasses and think it was not nightmarish fragmented.	Jan 11 12:48
cubexyz	I thought the walnut creek CDs were very significant	Jan 11 12:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: 1994 you wanted 3d accelerated X11 on Linux with particular video cards. Pay for commercial X11 server.	Jan 11 12:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: and run what horrirlbe distribution they supported.	Jan 11 12:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: lot of things have improved since then.	Jan 11 12:49
cubexyz	if I had the money back then I would have maybe bought an SGI box	Jan 11 12:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: also we forget 1994 it was manually configure X11 server for everything the auto configuration back then really did not work.	Jan 11 12:49
cubexyz	I'm not sure I ever had X11 running in 1994	Jan 11 12:50
oiaohm	Reality it was not possible to do a exodux to Unix/BSD/Linux in 1994 due to how badly broken stuff was.	Jan 11 12:50
cubexyz	just ncurses stuff	Jan 11 12:50
oiaohm	I was running X11 in 1995	Jan 11 12:50
oiaohm	And even then it was still quite horrible	Jan 11 12:50
cubexyz	Waterloo had Sun4's or maybe that was later on...	Jan 11 12:51
oiaohm	Then you have the kde vs gnome war with esound vs artds so you had to choose one or the other.	Jan 11 12:51
oiaohm	Only really now are we starting to get a Linux were the core is starting to come sane.	Jan 11 12:51
cubexyz	ok, it wasn't easy back then I admit... but look at all the source code you got	Jan 11 12:51
cubexyz	it was near the beginning...	Jan 11 12:52
oiaohm	The reality was windows 95 back then had less issues than using Unix or Linux or BSD from the same time frame.	Jan 11 12:52
oiaohm	Today you have lower issue count using Linux than Windows 10.	Jan 11 12:53
cubexyz	yes but compare win95 to Xenix	Jan 11 12:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: try running graphical on Xenix	Jan 11 12:53
cubexyz	honestly I never did	Jan 11 12:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: users had seen mac they wanted keyboard and mouse.	Jan 11 12:54
oiaohm	Xenix runs into the same X11 messes.	Jan 11 12:54
oiaohm	Linux just was not readly in 1994 so chance went by.	Jan 11 12:55
oiaohm	Items like BeOS that were kind of ready could not get the hardware vendor support at the time.	Jan 11 12:55
cubexyz	my statement stands though... the early ISPs were using FreeBSD	Jan 11 12:55
cubexyz	I seriously doubt anyone was using win95 for that	Jan 11 12:55
oiaohm	Linux server growth from 1994 on never went backwards.	Jan 11 12:56
oiaohm	Linux has mostly won the server fight. Its now cleaning up the toughest competitor.	Jan 11 12:56
cubexyz	in retrospect I think of M$ taking over to a large degree as a big abberration	Jan 11 12:57
oiaohm	not really MS leavaged there desktop market share to get server market share.	Jan 11 12:57
cubexyz	as you said, the serious Unix graphics workstations were SGI, Sun, etc	Jan 11 12:57
oiaohm	and expensive.	Jan 11 12:58
oiaohm	Lot of parties could not afford Unix graphics workstations and those Unix graphics workstations would have a lot of glitches.	Jan 11 12:58
cubexyz	everything is still balkanized with OSX, Android, chromeos, etc	Jan 11 12:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: you have to remember windows 95 cost 210 dollars at the time and a Unix graphics workstation wanted a few thousand for the OS then add the hardware.	Jan 11 12:59
oiaohm	cubexyz: cost and hardware vendor support are both important.	Jan 11 13:00
cubexyz	I would have been happy with a stable Unix without X11 back in 1994	Jan 11 13:01
cubexyz	stupidly I didn't stick with it	Jan 11 13:01
oiaohm	I did	Jan 11 13:01
oiaohm	the kde/gnome battle with fighting sound servers had me question my choice in the 2000s	Jan 11 13:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: modern day distributions are way more pleasant than anything in the first 16 years of Linux.	Jan 11 13:03
cubexyz	LGP was running linux games pretty well and Loki also did before them	Jan 11 13:03
oiaohm	cubexyz: about 2007 you start to see sanity appearing.	Jan 11 13:03
cubexyz	so I guess move it up to 1998	Jan 11 13:03
oiaohm	Of course by the time Linux is kind of ready. Microsoft has been dug in for a long time and has defacto standards.	Jan 11 13:04
oiaohm	So starting the battle to end the defecto standards.	Jan 11 13:04
cubexyz	people are telling me that they don't want windows 10	Jan 11 13:05
oiaohm	at the moment Linux for a lot of users is a resonable choice.	Jan 11 13:05
oiaohm	Historic that was not the case.	Jan 11 13:05
cubexyz	and going back to 1994 for a second... Ryerson and other polytechs were using Linux	Jan 11 13:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of that work leaded into the usage in supercomputers.	Jan 11 13:06
cubexyz	I assume MIT did also, but I'm not positive	Jan 11 13:06
oiaohm	cubexyz: so 1994 was not good for the Linux desktop. But for the Linux internet servers and Linux super computers it was a good time.	Jan 11 13:06
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oiaohm	cubexyz: you have to also consider libreoffice 2010 that when you see file compadiblity with Microsoft and other closed source office suites start improving massively.	Jan 11 13:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: everything not in place yet to kill Microsoft off on desktop. But we are way closer now. Without desktop Microsoft will lose the force that holds its server market.	Jan 11 13:10
cubexyz	yeah it's taking too long	Jan 11 13:10
oiaohm	I will not disagree	Jan 11 13:10
oiaohm	Historically open source software developer worked without quality control processes as well.	Jan 11 13:11
oiaohm	That has only really started changing since 2010 as well.	Jan 11 13:11
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cubexyz	people could have read Tanenbaum's book in 1987	Jan 11 13:19
oiaohm	cubexyz: true but Minix in that book is like dos. So people had seen a graphical apple the : Macintosh in 1984	Jan 11 13:26
oiaohm	cubexyz: Like it or not Microsoft was in fact late to the party for the graphical desktop.	Jan 11 13:27
oiaohm	cubexyz: and us doing Linux has been even latter to the party.	Jan 11 13:28
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oiaohm	cubexyz: 1991 Linux was basically starting off at least 10 years behind. Microsoft was about 4-5 years behind at 1991.	Jan 11 13:29
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cubexyz	Linux was already pretty decent by 1998	Jan 11 13:32
cubexyz	Redhat 5.2	Jan 11 13:32
cubexyz	got a pic of redhat 5.1 somewhere...	Jan 11 13:36
cubexyz	http://maxhost.org/other/redhat-5.1.jpg	Jan 11 13:37
cubexyz	people were just weren't savvy enough to run BSD (mostly)	Jan 11 13:39
cubexyz	myself included	Jan 11 13:40
cubexyz	I did eventually learn though	Jan 11 13:40
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oiaohm	cubexyz: I have have redhat 5.2 and 7.2 discs around here somehwere	Jan 11 13:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: Linux got decent for server work quite quickly.	Jan 11 13:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: also if items like ywindows, directfb and other had got vendor support desktop would have improved quicker as well.	Jan 11 13:56
MinceR	11 084423 < oiaohm> MinceR: testing is kind of modern. Old Enterprise was don't change anything ever and work around what ever bugs you find,	Jan 11 14:19
MinceR	tell that to m$, ratcrap and crApple	Jan 11 14:19
MinceR	(remember, "modern" is their buzzword for all the unthinkingly hacked up bloated insecure broken shit they foist on people)	Jan 11 14:20
MinceR	(like cancerd and the metro ui)	Jan 11 14:21
cubexyz	well, sticking to hardware, yes a lot of the old stuff was better	Jan 11 14:22
MinceR	yup	Jan 11 14:30
cubexyz	out of curiousity oiaohm, is there any laser printer you recommend?	Jan 11 14:33
cubexyz	I'll probably replace the fuser on this one for now	Jan 11 14:34
oiaohm	cubexyz: I have not been looking at any recently. Brothers and Samsung and hp I have used a lot of.	Jan 11 14:43
oiaohm	MinceR: scary as it sounds systemd like it or not has more complete QA than the sysvinit spreed mix of parts before it.	Jan 11 14:44
cubexyz	that would be "not" :)	Jan 11 14:45
oiaohm	MinceR: still getting around to proper engineering based development is not there yet.	Jan 11 14:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: brother and samsung does come down to the current driver conditions at the time on what on the market.	Jan 11 14:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: HP most of the Laser printers have Linux driver support at least.	Jan 11 14:46
cubexyz	I don't need colour or any MFP monster	Jan 11 14:46
cubexyz	just a straight B&W laser printer	Jan 11 14:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: even in the black and whites you can have the nightmare of no Linux drivers for particular models.	Jan 11 14:46
oiaohm	cubexyz: and that can be just one revision number added to a model number going from with Linux drivers to without in samsung.	Jan 11 14:47
cubexyz	samsung doesn't do PCL I take it?	Jan 11 14:48
MinceR	oiaohm: spare me of the old, tired and boring cancerd propaganda	Jan 11 14:50
MinceR	also please don't copy/paste any redhat brochures	Jan 11 14:50
cubexyz	seems they have their own thing... Samsung Printer Language	Jan 11 14:50
MinceR	oiaohm: they released versions that couldn't even boot	Jan 11 14:50
cubexyz	oiaohm, not to mention a somewhat crappy 1,500 pages per toner cart yield on the samsung	Jan 11 14:51
cubexyz	and an even smaller 700 pages with the "starter" cart	Jan 11 14:52
oiaohm	MinceR: reality have you ever looked at sysvinit history. There are only about 80 releases where init binary would crash killing the complete system.	Jan 11 14:53
MinceR	oiaohm: well before cancerd was even considered	Jan 11 14:53
oiaohm	MinceR: systemd quality control seams bad but sysvinit in real world has been worse.	Jan 11 14:54
MinceR	protip: repeating "in real world" doesn't make cancerd fail any less	Jan 11 14:54
MinceR	no rituals will help	Jan 11 14:54
MinceR	only actual real software engineering will	Jan 11 14:54
MinceR	that thing nobody at red hat knows how to do :>	Jan 11 14:55
oiaohm	MinceR: reality is sysvinit was failing before systemd because it was not being built using real software engineer process either.	Jan 11 14:55
MinceR	(also nobody at m$ or crApple)	Jan 11 14:55
cubexyz	I've seen systemd bork up	Jan 11 14:55
MinceR	oiaohm: this would be relevant if anyone wanted to replace an ancient version of sysvinit with a current version of cancerd	Jan 11 14:55
oiaohm	MinceR: systemd is closer to real engineer process than what the sysvinit of random collected parts.	Jan 11 14:55
MinceR	no, not really	Jan 11 14:56
cubexyz	anyways, I've run FC1 longer than anything else and it still works	Jan 11 14:56
oiaohm	MinceR: how did sysvinit and udev and other parts QA that they would in fact work with each other. That right land on end users.	Jan 11 14:56
cubexyz	best by test	Jan 11 14:57
oiaohm	MinceR: so the reality is systemd with everything under one roof means they can perform uniform QA process as engineer process says should be done.	Jan 11 14:57
cubexyz	although the openbsd box works fine too	Jan 11 14:57
oiaohm	openbsd/freebsd all the core init stuff is under unified managment as mandated by good engineering process.	Jan 11 14:58
MinceR	oiaohm: they can, but they never did, and never will	Jan 11 14:58
MinceR	and even the fundamental concept of that software is broken	Jan 11 14:59
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oiaohm	MinceR: these days systemd does use a automatic build and test suite server. https://github.com/systemd/systemd-fedora-ci	Jan 11 15:03
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oiaohm	MinceR: really from a testing point of view systemd already is way ahead of where sysvinit was.	Jan 11 15:03
oiaohm	MinceR: I am not saying it perfect yet.	Jan 11 15:03
MinceR	no, all you keep saying that it's better than anything else	Jan 11 15:04
MinceR	even though it's a demonstration of how not to engineer software	Jan 11 15:04
MinceR	a massive hairball with all sorts of different concerns mixed randomly	Jan 11 15:04
MinceR	hardly any documentation or comments	Jan 11 15:04
oiaohm	What	Jan 11 15:04
oiaohm	Have you never read the systemd source code right.	Jan 11 15:05
MinceR	and of course gnome uses unofficial interfaces	Jan 11 15:05
MinceR	i have read it	Jan 11 15:05
MinceR	guess again	Jan 11 15:05
oiaohm	2/3 of systemd source is documentation	Jan 11 15:05
oiaohm	And that is without comments	Jan 11 15:05
MinceR	oh, it's nice to be able to talk to someone who lives in an alternate universe	Jan 11 15:05
MinceR	i wonder what else is different over there	Jan 11 15:05
oiaohm	So how is there hardly any documentation.	Jan 11 15:05
oiaohm	there is much more than sysvinit ever had explain it logic and operation.	Jan 11 15:06
MinceR	and none of it belongs in an alleged "init system"	Jan 11 15:06
oiaohm	MinceR: if documentation is a point you must be living in a alternative universe.	Jan 11 15:06
oiaohm	One thing about systemd is that is highly documented compared to the other init system options.	Jan 11 15:07
oiaohm	If documentaiton is a problem and some how sysvinit is better then Systemd must have too much documentation but that cannot be right.	Jan 11 15:08
MinceR	i guess that documentation lives in a non-public repository i have no access to	Jan 11 15:08
oiaohm	No 2/3 is the public github	Jan 11 15:08
oiaohm	quality control is split into some other github branches that you could have missed.	Jan 11 15:10
oiaohm	But documentation you should have not missed that.	Jan 11 15:10
MinceR	they probably didn't even exist when they destroyed the debian project from within	Jan 11 15:10
oiaohm	again no	Jan 11 15:10
MinceR	which was later than when they released it in fedora as "stable"	Jan 11 15:10
oiaohm	by the time debian took systemd in its documetnation already exceed the documentation coming from sysvinit and it mix.	Jan 11 15:11
MinceR	also, apparently those magical github branches did not prevent unusable versions from being released	Jan 11 15:11
oiaohm	Because debian and fedora took it in before they in fact started running proper quality control servers.	Jan 11 15:11
oiaohm	and they were not running proper quality control servers for sysvinit either.	Jan 11 15:12
MinceR	for example, it did not prevent https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918226	Jan 11 15:12
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MinceR	even though it would have been trivial to detect it before committing	Jan 11 15:12
MinceR	same with https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89383	Jan 11 15:13
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MinceR	(afaik you can't boot a typical system if you can't mount devices)	Jan 11 15:13
oiaohm	MinceR: pick another bug and try again.	Jan 11 15:14
MinceR	and another: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793932	Jan 11 15:14
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oiaohm	MinceR: why that fault was not in fact mainline systemd that was opensuse own addon patch. And SUSE not running enginering testing.	Jan 11 15:14
MinceR	but i guess i could link bugs all day and all night, you'd still cargocult cancerd and shill it all day every day	Jan 11 15:15
MinceR	of course suse doesn't run "engineering testing"	Jan 11 15:15
MinceR	suse doesn't do engineering	Jan 11 15:15
MinceR	suse pushes the microsoft agenda, attempting to destroy free software	Jan 11 15:15
MinceR	that's not engineering	Jan 11 15:15
oiaohm	MinceR: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793932 did you read bug why it was closed.	Jan 11 15:16
MinceR	did you read the bug report?	Jan 11 15:17
oiaohm	MinceR: it was not repeatable and closed.	Jan 11 15:17
MinceR	no, the cancerd cultist handling the bug was offended	Jan 11 15:17
oiaohm	MinceR: I did read it you must have just googled and presumed it was right.	Jan 11 15:17
MinceR	i filed it in a bookmark ages ago	Jan 11 15:18
oiaohm	that does not mean it was right when you bookmarked it.	Jan 11 15:18
MinceR	it was, and it still is	Jan 11 15:18
MinceR	the fact that it offends you or some other cancerd apologist does not change that	Jan 11 15:18
oiaohm	saying a bug is valid when it was closed for being invalid	Jan 11 15:19
oiaohm	MinceR: really what you there are true valid bugs without using invalid ones.	Jan 11 15:19
MinceR	oiaohm: sticking your head in the sand doesn't fix cancerd	Jan 11 15:19
MinceR	redesigning it from scratch might.	Jan 11 15:19
MinceR	so please shut up and stick to the second thing	Jan 11 15:20
oiaohm	MinceR: I am not sticking my head in sand I have point to valid bugs to be fixed in systemd before.	Jan 11 15:20
MinceR	can someone translate that to english?	Jan 11 15:20
oiaohm	Really claimed lack of documentation that is not true. Using invalid bugs. Exactly why should be changing my point of view when you are not putting up solid information.	Jan 11 15:21
MinceR	exactly how could i change your opinion if you're suffering from cognitive dissonance?	Jan 11 15:22
oiaohm	I have change opinion in past based on evidence. Claiming cognitive dissonance just means you don't have to assembled unbiased valid compare evidence that would change my point of view.	Jan 11 15:23
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oiaohm	Please note openrc may end up better than systemd in time and this is why I am watching what trueos and gentoo are doing.	Jan 11 15:25
MinceR	that's easy, it was better than systemd at every point in time so far	Jan 11 15:26
MinceR	and that will continue until systemd is reconceived from scratch	Jan 11 15:26
MinceR	even an empty file is better than systemd	Jan 11 15:26
oiaohm	That is not a valid compared based on evidence.	Jan 11 15:27
oiaohm	How can a empty file be better.	Jan 11 15:27
MinceR	by not being a massive blob of bloat with backdoors	Jan 11 15:27
oiaohm	Reality it cannot because a empty file system not booting.	Jan 11 15:27
MinceR	also, it is a single line away from being one of the best inits ever conceived	Jan 11 15:27
MinceR	then it's not different from systemd in many cases	Jan 11 15:28
oiaohm	LOL	Jan 11 15:28
MinceR	int main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }	Jan 11 15:28
oiaohm	have you seen what happens when someone trys a single line init in docker	Jan 11 15:28
MinceR	put this in that empty file and you're already well ahead of most attempts	Jan 11 15:28
MinceR	do i care about docker	Jan 11 15:28
oiaohm	You skipped zombie collection.	Jan 11 15:28
oiaohm	same mistake early systemd did.	Jan 11 15:29
MinceR	no i did not	Jan 11 15:29
MinceR	read that line more carefully	Jan 11 15:29
oiaohm	Yes you did	Jan 11 15:29
oiaohm	I have	Jan 11 15:29
MinceR	what does while (1) wait(NULL) do?	Jan 11 15:29
oiaohm	there is a type of zombie that misses	Jan 11 15:29
oiaohm	same one systemd missed	Jan 11 15:29
MinceR	maybe i will care about docker once the kernel features it relies on are mature	Jan 11 15:30
MinceR	(cancerd and probably openrc would benefit from that too, btw)	Jan 11 15:30
oiaohm	the fault was found by docter by people attempting what you did but it would also happen as a normal PID1	Jan 11 15:30
oiaohm	openrc as a few extras to its zombie collection same with sysvinit and same with current systemd	Jan 11 15:31
MinceR	so, what sort of zombie did these not catch?	Jan 11 15:31
oiaohm	You in fact to connect a handler.	Jan 11 15:31
oiaohm	zombie sent message to parrent parrent has not cleared message zombie stuck.	Jan 11 15:32
MinceR	if the parent is still running, it is the parent's responsibility to take care of the process that exited	Jan 11 15:32
oiaohm	MinceR: it when parrent dies and the zombie is transfered to PID1. slight timing gap.	Jan 11 15:32
oiaohm	MinceR: so PID1 does need a signal handler.	Jan 11 15:33
MinceR	if you didn't mangle the language so badly, i'd probably understand this case, but i don't	Jan 11 15:34
oiaohm	MinceR: the wait you used catchs SIGCHILD. But process going zombie might have sent different signals to parrent.	Jan 11 15:35
oiaohm	MinceR: of course it when those messages are sent.	Jan 11 15:35
oiaohm	MinceR: that causes the problem.	Jan 11 15:35
oiaohm	MinceR: the zombie parrent PID race condition.	Jan 11 15:36
MinceR	iirc signals aren't the problem	Jan 11 15:36
MinceR	not waiting on the process to let the kernel know that you no longer care about the data in the process struct is the problem	Jan 11 15:36
oiaohm	MinceR: what about stopped.	Jan 11 15:40
oiaohm	MinceR: there is a list of signals you need to collect extra basically to tell a zombie to keep on moving and die to the wait.	Jan 11 15:41
MinceR	afaik you don't collect signals	Jan 11 15:44
oiaohm	MinceR: https://github.com/Yelp/dumb-init/blob/master/dumb-init.c Notice the more complex SIGCHILD handling either.	Jan 11 15:44
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MinceR	you have signal handlers or you have them blocked	Jan 11 15:44
oiaohm	MinceR: to keep a zombie moving to dead you do need to send it particular signals.	Jan 11 15:45
MinceR	this one seems to rely on receiving a signal to know that there's a child that needs to be waited on	Jan 11 15:45
MinceR	but i don't see why that would be important	Jan 11 15:46
oiaohm	MinceR: so you are not sending a SIGTERM to a zombie process that is not going to exit willingly because it stopped somewhere.	Jan 11 15:46
oiaohm	MinceR: wait function ends up waiting forever on stuck zombie processes.	Jan 11 15:47
oiaohm	MinceR: so you do need to do a signal handler not think wait will work.	Jan 11 15:47
MinceR	i doubt you can even send signals to zombie processes	Jan 11 15:48
MinceR	there's literally nothing that could handle signals	Jan 11 15:48
MinceR	you kill zombies by waiting on them	Jan 11 15:48
oiaohm	SIGTERM is picked up by kernel.	Jan 11 15:49
MinceR	i think you mean SIGKILL	Jan 11 15:49
MinceR	but afaik even that does nothing to zombies	Jan 11 15:49
oiaohm	No I mean SIGTERM	Jan 11 15:49
MinceR	it would be an issue for the calling process if it did	Jan 11 15:49
oiaohm	SIGTERM from PID1 to a process ID is kind of special.	Jan 11 15:50
MinceR	s/calling/parent/	Jan 11 15:50
MinceR	since it would mean that the struct goes away from which the parent would get the exit status when it calls wait or waitpid	Jan 11 15:50
oiaohm	Why you send sigterm to zombie process it to kill any children processes that can become disconnected active zombie proceses.	Jan 11 15:53
oiaohm	MinceR: if you don't do it you create another form of zombie.	Jan 11 15:54
MinceR	do you have a citation for this?	Jan 11 15:55
oiaohm	https://github.com/Yelp/dumb-init/blob/master/dumb-init.c that is why I quoted this.	Jan 11 15:55
MinceR	that doesn't look like posix documentation to me	Jan 11 15:55
oiaohm	In it sigchild handle forward_signal(SIGTERM); // send SIGTERM to any remaining children<<	Jan 11 15:55
MinceR	pesky alternate realities...	Jan 11 15:55
oiaohm	when you look into why that is and why sysvinit has it there is a nice little trap to those attempting to make a init replacement.	Jan 11 15:56
MinceR	i wonder if it's even a good idea to kill children of zombies	Jan 11 15:57
oiaohm	Yes its one of the bugs due to how posix standard designed init.	Jan 11 15:57
oiaohm	sysvinit does kill children of zombies so does openrc so does systemd.	Jan 11 15:58
oiaohm	MinceR: so killing children of zombies is expected behavour.	Jan 11 15:59
oiaohm	MinceR: note what I said about sysvinit lacking documentation. Particularly about these expected behaviours its read the source to find out about them.	Jan 11 15:59
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schestowitz	lol	Jan 11 18:45
schestowitz	nice joke	Jan 11 18:45
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XRevan86	MinceR: pioneers?	Jan 11 19:17
MinceR	i guess	Jan 11 19:18
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MinceR	not very realistic though	Jan 11 19:18
MinceR	as it admits that "steel production is down"	Jan 11 19:18
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MinceR	if only there was an easier method to swap batteries in a phone	Jan 11 19:22
XRevan86	MinceR: One can dream…	Jan 11 19:23
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 19:24
DaemonFC	MinceR: At least I could have ubreakifix or some other store in Chicago repair my Galaxy S8+ if it's out of warranty and not worry about fake error messages like the ones you would get with Apple.	Jan 11 19:35
DaemonFC	Samsung sells the OEM batteries to repair shops, so even though the phone checks to see if it has a Samsung serial number, you don't have to mail it to anyone.	Jan 11 19:37
DaemonFC	And there's a good reason to check for the serial number. Third party batteries are of varying quality. I've bought some brand new that wouldn't accept a full charge, shut down randomly, and physically broke.	Jan 11 19:37
DaemonFC	The seller on ebay is quick to give you your money back because they don't want bad feedback.	Jan 11 19:38
DaemonFC	MinceR: I actually had one of them return $15 for a $10 battery and ask me to change me feedback to neutral.	Jan 11 19:41
DaemonFC	I said okay, he sent me the money, and I left the bad feedback. He never said anything, probably because ebay policy forbids offering money for better feedback.	Jan 11 19:41
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Afaik, Linux is the only operating system that lets you turn off the Meltdown fix.	Jan 12 02:18
DaemonFC	It really is so horrible to live with that some people probably will.	Jan 12 02:18
DaemonFC	With Windows and Mac, you have to either update and take the hit or forego installing any updates at all, which will leave you vulnerable to all new security problems.	Jan 12 02:19
XRevan86	https://browserleaks.com/proxy	Jan 12 02:21
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XRevan86	DaemonFC: I saw some mentions that 'tis possible to disable it on Windows	Jan 12 02:22
XRevan86	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073119/protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-in	Jan 12 02:23
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XRevan86	Of course with GNU/Linux it is a lot easier :)	Jan 12 02:25
XRevan86	I just need to know about "pti=off", nothing requires copypasting	Jan 12 02:27
DaemonFC	MinceR: From Facebook:	Jan 12 02:29
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer 1998: "I'll bet 2018 will be awesome. Human colonies on Mars, cures for cancer, quantum computing."	Jan 12 02:30
DaemonFC	2018: Trump cuts a billion more dollars from NASA, Pfizer announces that it will end research into disease and use the Trump tax cuts for share buybacks, Intel processors slowed down 30% with workaround for the worst hardware security problem ever, and Procter & Gamble has to tell teenagers that are getting passing grades in high school not to eat Tide Pods.	Jan 12 02:30
XRevan86	I'll bet 2038 will be awesome. Human colonies on Mars, cures for cancer, quantum computing.	Jan 12 02:30
DaemonFC	Seriously, don't eat laundry pods.	Jan 12 02:33
DaemonFC	You have to tell this to 16 year olds now.	Jan 12 02:33
DaemonFC	Remember when the big worry was that a 4 year old would get into them?	Jan 12 02:33
XRevan86	DaemonFC: What's a laundry pod?	Jan 12 02:34
XRevan86	ah, got it	Jan 12 02:35
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Soap, yummy	Jan 12 02:36
oiaohm	XRevan86: its turning out to fix all of spectre/speculative execution problem requires a microcode update on many intel processes.	Jan 12 02:37
XRevan86	oiaohm: And AMD too	Jan 12 02:37
oiaohm	XRevan86: intel is only at this stage providing Microcode update for processors up to 5 years old.	Jan 12 02:38
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Although I have a bit of a confusion. Is "laudry pod" both a container with washing liquid and a small washing machine?	Jan 12 02:39
XRevan86	https://www.chla.org/sites/default/files/migrated/shutterstock_194451812_Fotor.jpg I see this called laudry pods	Jan 12 02:39
XRevan86	https://img.grouponcdn.com/deal/dHPNEwBWPtvtEHQdwRDqM9zWjgv/dH-1915x1149/v1/c700x420.jpg and this	Jan 12 02:39
DaemonFC	XRevan86: They don't have laundry pods there?	Jan 12 02:40
DaemonFC	You toss one in the laundry and it saves you from measuring out detergent.	Jan 12 02:40
XRevan86	DaemonFC: which ones? :)	Jan 12 02:40
oiaohm	AMD different you don't in fact need a microcode update if you are willing to take a 40 percent cpu performance hit by forcing in line execution.	Jan 12 02:40
DaemonFC	They're a little more expensive, but not much more.	Jan 12 02:40
oiaohm	Opps on order execution.	Jan 12 02:40
DaemonFC	Just disable pti.	Jan 12 02:40
XRevan86	DaemonFC: There are. So you meant the one from the first photo, got it.	Jan 12 02:41
DaemonFC	I don't think that the chance of an attack on a home PC running Linux is high on this.	Jan 12 02:41
oiaohm	DaemonFC: pti is meltdown. The 40 percent hit is AMD worse method for dealing with all of spectre.	Jan 12 02:41
DaemonFC	So why take the hit?	Jan 12 02:41
DaemonFC	I disabled pti on my system and I'm current on the kernel stable branch.	Jan 12 02:42
oiaohm	Amd MMU does not suffer from what PTI fixes.	Jan 12 02:42
DaemonFC	I have one of the newer systems that doesn't suffer as much from KPTI, but it's still too much.	Jan 12 02:42
oiaohm	This is why lattest kernel has PTI already off for AMD.	Jan 12 02:42
oiaohm	spectre is another mess.	Jan 12 02:42
XRevan86	I for one have pcid on my processor.	Jan 12 02:42
XRevan86	that should reduce the overhead from KPTI	Jan 12 02:43
DaemonFC	It seems like Intel chose fast processor over security and figured nobody would ever find out?	Jan 12 02:43
oiaohm	Please note Intel you don't have option of turning speculative execution off.	Jan 12 02:43
DaemonFC	They'll eventually fix it at the hardware level, but the design of Ice Lake is finalized already, so it will be at least the 10th generation Core processors that get the hardware fix.	Jan 12 02:44
oiaohm	AMD provided speculative execution off for real-time usage to provide absolutely predictable timings of instruction handling.	Jan 12 02:44
DaemonFC	So I'm probably going to try avoiding a new computer until then.	Jan 12 02:44
oiaohm	Meltdown comes from the 286 time frame if you look at the cpu instruction manuanls.	Jan 12 02:44
DaemonFC	We're talking late 2019 or early 2020 before the real fix is in.	Jan 12 02:45
oiaohm	At that time secure OS kind did not exist.	Jan 12 02:45
oiaohm	spectre stuff appears around 1995	Jan 12 02:45
DaemonFC	286 era, people ran DOS.	Jan 12 02:46
DaemonFC	There was no security at all.	Jan 12 02:46
DaemonFC	You could do anything at all with the computer.	Jan 12 02:46
oiaohm	The time in history where the faults are form security was basically non existance so focusing on performance was understandable.	Jan 12 02:46
oiaohm	form/from	Jan 12 02:46
oiaohm	Its just none of the latter reviews picked it up.	Jan 12 02:47
oiaohm	spectre faults come a IBM white paper on how PowerPC did out of order execution.	Jan 12 02:47
oiaohm	So spectre is not Intel fault for getting it wrong at first. Its Intel, AMD, ARM... fault for not noticing that IBM goofed.	Jan 12 02:48
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the worst part about spectre is the incorrect method made it into many silicon design courses.	Jan 12 02:48
cubexyz	we ran different OSes on 286	Jan 12 03:33
cubexyz	Venix and Xenix mainly	Jan 12 03:33
cubexyz	there was also CP/M-86	Jan 12 03:34
cubexyz	and Coherent, although I didn't try that one on 286, there was a version for it	Jan 12 03:35
cubexyz	1 meg 286's were pretty common	Jan 12 03:46
cubexyz	286's had the 16-bit protected mode which wasn't used by msdos	Jan 12 03:49
cubexyz	even back then there were some choices for 286	Jan 12 03:51
DaemonFC	MINIX worked on it. In fact, Tanenbaum complained that Linux required a 386.	Jan 12 03:53
cubexyz	easier that way though	Jan 12 03:57
cubexyz	the early 1990s were the last gasp of 286's	Jan 12 03:57
DaemonFC	Windows 3.1 worked on the 286 in Standard Mode.	Jan 12 04:31
DaemonFC	3.11 didn't, officially.	Jan 12 04:31
cubexyz	the bad old days :)	Jan 12 04:42
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MinceR	12 031833 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Afaik, Linux is the only operating system that lets you turn off the Meltdown fix.	Jan 12 06:48
MinceR	no, it's a kernel	Jan 12 06:48
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/gahnoo-plus-linux.jpg	Jan 12 06:53
MinceR	I'd like to interject. What you call Linux is actually just a kernel. Without systemd, it can't do anything at all, so I have recently started calling it systemd-kerneld. Yes, there really is a Linux, but we must give credit to the other software that makes up a complete system.	Jan 12 06:58
MinceR	Looking at the package count on a modern systemd-kerneld distribution, you'll find that systemd is nearly half of all packages. If you go by source lines of code, Linux, or kerneld, is only 9%.	Jan 12 06:59
cubexyz	I don't really like udev either	Jan 12 07:00
cubexyz	udev got integrated into systemd	Jan 12 07:02
cubexyz	so the slackware people made eudev	Jan 12 07:03
cubexyz	actually I don't know if they made it...	Jan 12 07:03
cubexyz	they used it anyways	Jan 12 07:03
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/yyZ2Z	Jan 12 07:05
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MinceR	i thought the gentoo people made eudev	Jan 12 07:05
cubexyz	yes, I think that's right	Jan 12 07:05
cubexyz	I got used to the pre-udev way but I'm adapting	Jan 12 07:07
cubexyz	I guess the general idea is good: userspace /dev	Jan 12 07:09
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/JxaHm3m.jpg	Jan 12 07:12
cubexyz	I liked the old SCL system...scanner control language	Jan 12 07:16
cubexyz	fopen /dev/usb/scanner0 and off you go	Jan 12 07:17
cubexyz	pretty straightforward	Jan 12 07:17
cubexyz	but I'm going to relook at xscanimage and see how it's done nowadays	Jan 12 07:18
cubexyz	of course I can just open /dev/sg0 on the old scsi scanner	Jan 12 07:27
oiaohm	MinceR: come on. Linux kernel is over 22 millions lines of code. Systemd is only about 300 000 lines of code 1 million if you incorrectly count documentation.	Jan 12 07:49
MinceR	oiaohm: it's satire	Jan 12 07:52
oiaohm	MinceR: scary concept is bash alone is 181000 lines of code	Jan 12 07:52
oiaohm	MinceR: Complete busybox is about 188000 lines of code. Kinda of explains why debian uses dash in a lot of places.	Jan 12 07:56
MinceR	at least bash does not normally listen on a tcp port	Jan 12 07:56
oiaohm	MinceR: that is a include feature inside bash to listen on a tcp port and send data to a tcp port.	Jan 12 07:56
MinceR	i know	Jan 12 07:56
MinceR	but it's not always on	Jan 12 07:56
MinceR	unlike the web server built into systemd	Jan 12 07:57
oiaohm	Neither is systemd	Jan 12 07:57
MinceR	>systemd isn't always on	Jan 12 07:57
oiaohm	web server in systemd does not have to be enabled.	Jan 12 07:57
MinceR	congratulations, you have comment of the day	Jan 12 07:57
oiaohm	And by default in all distributions I know its not.	Jan 12 07:57
oiaohm	MinceR: name a distribution with it enabled.	Jan 12 07:57
oiaohm	MinceR: even fedora builds with the http server/client in systemd disabled. https://github.com/cockpit-project they use this instead.	Jan 12 08:08
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oiaohm	MinceR: now if you are thinking about journald http/https support does pay to go look at https://www.balabit.com/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/html/configuring-destinations-http.html	Jan 12 08:08
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oiaohm	MinceR: journald remote form does support using https and checking certificate where a lot of the syslog options don't have https support let alone checking that its the right server on the other end.	Jan 12 08:09
MinceR	oiaohm: don't waste your breath, i'm not buying cancerd	Jan 12 08:09
MinceR	or a ratcrap support contract	Jan 12 08:09
MinceR	i prefer free software	Jan 12 08:10
oiaohm	MinceR: tell me what is the difference really with sysvinit system with syslog-ng with bad http support vs systemd joruanld with good http/https support and both ship with the http stuff off by default.	Jan 12 08:10
oiaohm	MinceR: Really why should I not see that webserver bit as just a beat up.	Jan 12 08:11
MinceR	it's a demonstration that they've really put everything and the kitchen sink into something people like you still try to sell as an "init system"	Jan 12 08:12
oiaohm	Really you think it demonstrates that. LOL	Jan 12 08:13
oiaohm	systemd attempt to be a complete colletion of tools to init system like busybox does supprise web server like feature is that as well.	Jan 12 08:15
oiaohm	MinceR: all it really says is that you like the fragment not properly QA system that sysvinit was with no hope of that being fixed.	Jan 12 08:16
MinceR	if you calmed down, maybe you'd be able to form meaningful sentences in english	Jan 12 08:16
oiaohm	Now attack my english when the arguement does not go the way you want.	Jan 12 08:17
oiaohm	So predictable.	Jan 12 08:17
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/wTjf9	Jan 12 08:17
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MinceR	i can't parse your argument because it's word salad	Jan 12 08:18
oiaohm	Its not word salad	Jan 12 08:18
MinceR	it's impossible to determine the purpose of individual words	Jan 12 08:18
oiaohm	Nop	Jan 12 08:18
oiaohm	I have another person who just read over it and understood it perfectly.	Jan 12 08:18
MinceR	good for them	Jan 12 08:19
MinceR	maybe they can translate it into english for the rest of us	Jan 12 08:19
oiaohm	It is english	Jan 12 08:19
oiaohm	What are you not understanding.	Jan 12 08:19
oiaohm	Maybe the problem is lack of knowledge on yourside.	Jan 12 08:20
oiaohm	MinceR: the webserver one is such a beat up it not funny when you work out how many of the different complete systems include web server functionality as part of logging.	Jan 12 08:22
oiaohm	MinceR: sysvinit was developed as fragment so at times items changed in sysvinit that would break logging or other core things.	Jan 12 08:22
MinceR	hint: don't put the syslog into the "init system"	Jan 12 08:24
oiaohm	MinceR: so when sysvinit decides to alter it zombie clean up and you end up with logging issues what to-do then.. Or any other change like that.	Jan 12 08:25
oiaohm	MinceR: so you have a stack of invidual piece to a jigsaw that don't always assemble.	Jan 12 08:25
MinceR	so you just turn an entire OS into a massive unmaintainable blob	Jan 12 08:27
MinceR	and flame everyone who dares suggest that it was not a good idea	Jan 12 08:27
oiaohm	I did not say turn complete OS into a blob.	Jan 12 08:27
MinceR	see, this is what you have in common with poettering -- neither of you have any clue about software engineering	Jan 12 08:27
oiaohm	synced versioning does come out of software engineering.	Jan 12 08:28
oiaohm	In open source projects a lot of times the only way to achieve this is group the related project under one group.	Jan 12 08:29
oiaohm	MinceR: sorry those who do have a clue about software engineering do see merit in the systemd or openrc path.	Jan 12 08:29
MinceR	the actual solution would have been to ensure small, well defined and well documented interfaces (preferably standard ones) between the components of an OS	Jan 12 08:30
MinceR	don't mix openrc into this, it's not like systemd in any way	Jan 12 08:30
oiaohm	openrc has a increase number of sub projects	Jan 12 08:30
oiaohm	like systemd does.	Jan 12 08:31
oiaohm	Well defined interfaces cannot be build while you have duplicate projects breaking the compatibility all the time.	Jan 12 08:31
MinceR	then maybe your idols shouldn't be breaking compatibility all the time	Jan 12 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951733537182507008	Jan 12 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny solderable quad Cortex-A17 module has 4GB RAM and	Jan 12 08:33
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oiaohm	MinceR: breaking compatibility all the time started in the 1980s. So how are they my idiots.	Jan 12 08:44
oiaohm	MinceR: one of the reasons distributions end up on openrc and systemd Is the fact by choosing those you have set of parts tested to in fact work with each other.	Jan 12 08:44
oiaohm	MinceR: this is why I say the other init options need to lift their game as well. Just providing init is not enough you need to be sure it will in fact work with the other parties need.	Jan 12 08:46
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sebsebsebb	hi	Jan 12 09:41
sebsebsebb	MinceR: Apple	Jan 12 09:41
sebsebsebb	schestowitz: Novell	Jan 12 09:41
sebsebsebb	DaemonFC: Satan	Jan 12 09:42
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: Fedora Core 2 patched by you !	Jan 12 09:42
sebsebsebb	XFaCE: XFCE in Mageia 6 Live CD ?	Jan 12 09:42
sebsebsebb	oiaohm: Hows Australlia ?	Jan 12 09:43
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cubexyz	no, it wasn't Fedora Core 2 :)	Jan 12 09:51
cubexyz	Fedora Core 1 it was	Jan 12 09:51
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: oh yeah its 1 not 2	Jan 12 09:51
sebsebsebb	I got some odd issues with this lap top or uhmm ubuntu 16.04.3	Jan 12 09:51
sebsebsebb	maybe you can help me actually	Jan 12 09:52
cubexyz	maybe	Jan 12 09:52
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: I made	Jan 12 09:53
sebsebsebb	well I used all my usbs now erally hmm	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	two didn't work	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	with ethcher, well didn't burn right. the other two did with unetbootin, but same issue	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	it loads up Grub, but won't go past that	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	it won't load up into try ubuntu	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	don't know why.	Jan 12 09:54
sebsebsebb	wanting to Linux this lap top again, got a new motherobard and hard disk, already done all the windows junk. the upating and uh	Jan 12 09:55
cubexyz	does the laptop have a cdrom?	Jan 12 09:56
cubexyz	because it sounds like the install isn't right	Jan 12 09:56
sebsebsebb	no it doens't, soem wehre i got a extrnal usb dvd drive though, but not quite suer where, or its the cable for it	Jan 12 09:57
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: there is no install of Linux on here again yet	Jan 12 09:57
sebsebsebb	since these usb stick issues	Jan 12 09:57
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: I burnt them using windows	Jan 12 09:57
sebsebsebb	the two etcher ones woudn't even put grub on right for some reason or that was about it. but the unetbootin ones put it all on	Jan 12 09:57
sebsebsebb	etcher not working right, unetbootin put eveyrting on from usbs	Jan 12 09:58
sebsebsebb	but they won't boot up right	Jan 12 09:58
cubexyz	well, I would check the integrity of the ISO image first	Jan 12 09:59
cubexyz	and there was some recent ubuntu problem with UEFI	Jan 12 10:00
cubexyz	I think that was Ubuntu 17.10 though	Jan 12 10:01
cubexyz	check the bios anyways, make sure it's working right	Jan 12 10:02
cubexyz	check the boot order...	Jan 12 10:03
cubexyz	also I believe ubuntu has a dedicated boot repair disc	Jan 12 10:04
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: looks like I may have to use another burn tool, unetbootin apparnatly doesn't even support uefi, but refus should work	Jan 12 10:04
sebsebsebb	that was going by #ubuntu	Jan 12 10:04
cubexyz	if it's not uncompressing the kernel you know it's borked	Jan 12 10:05
cubexyz	which bios does it have?	Jan 12 10:05
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: apparnatly unetbootin doesn't adctsaully support uefi	Jan 12 10:07
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: I need to try refus	Jan 12 10:08
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cubexyz	sebsebsebb, some BIOS/UEFI versions are a bit linux hostile	Jan 12 10:18
cubexyz	I know some people told me they needed to use legacy boot, or enable specific devices such as USB devices	Jan 12 10:18
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: apparnatly unetbootin dones't support uefi	Jan 12 10:18
sebsebsebb	so if I burn a new with refus	Jan 12 10:18
sebsebsebb	it should work hopefully !	Jan 12 10:18
cubexyz	yes, but there is also legacy boot or CSM	Jan 12 10:19
sebsebsebb	yes there's legacy boot and that, but that's not much good	Jan 12 10:19
cubexyz	if you're UEFI has that, you could turn it on	Jan 12 10:19
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sebsebsebb	since I am acgtsualy going to be multi booting with windows 10	Jan 12 10:19
sebsebsebb	so I need uefi set up then	Jan 12 10:19
cubexyz	ah	Jan 12 10:19
cubexyz	yes	Jan 12 10:19
sebsebsebb	as rubbish as windows is	Jan 12 10:20
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sebsebsebb	on occasion there is reason to use it for something	Jan 12 10:20
cubexyz	I wonder if coreboot would boot win10 :)	Jan 12 10:20
sebsebsebb	rarefly though once Linux on :)	Jan 12 10:20
sebsebsebb	coreboot the free software only stuff, probably not quite	Jan 12 10:20
sebsebsebb	or that was your :)	Jan 12 10:20
sebsebsebb	a joke	Jan 12 10:20
cubexyz	well... I figured you'd never touch coreboot :)	Jan 12 10:21
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: I am a bit hmm to if I really want to put windows 10 back on the gpd pocket or not	Jan 12 10:21
sebsebsebb	not sure quite yet	Jan 12 10:21
sebsebsebb	but lap top first	Jan 12 10:21
sebsebsebb	other devices such as gpd pocket, setting up with linux and what not later, and traking android off my xperia x for salifish os too	Jan 12 10:21
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: by the eway are you protcted from spectre and the other thing in your fedora core 1 h eh	Jan 12 10:23
cubexyz	I don't think the CPU on the FC1 Box does speculative execution so it should be OK as far as spectre goes	Jan 12 10:24
cubexyz	meltdown, I don't know	Jan 12 10:25
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: I don't feel that secure right now, since running the rubbish os /:d	Jan 12 10:25
sebsebsebb	:d	Jan 12 10:25
cubexyz	a rogue process would have to get on the computer first...	Jan 12 10:25
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: ok no razielle here to maybe try and c rack me h eh	Jan 12 10:26
cubexyz	so I'm not that worried	Jan 12 10:26
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: but maybe soeone malicous from #ubuntu saw my ip h eh	Jan 12 10:26
cubexyz	I've spent the last 14 years securing FC1 so I'm confident :)	Jan 12 10:27
sebsebsebb	cubexyz: Microsoft have spent the last whatever years, securing windows a bit, and it's still rather insecure	Jan 12 10:28
sebsebsebb	so uhmm	Jan 12 10:28
cubexyz	the thing is windows will never be secure...	Jan 12 10:28
cubexyz	you got no control	Jan 12 10:28
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sebsebsebb	yeah I guess not,s since it's designed so badly in the background etc	Jan 12 10:28
sebsebsebb	no control ?	Jan 12 10:29
cubexyz	downloading gigs of who-knows-what whenever it wants	Jan 12 10:29
sebsebsebb	yeah	Jan 12 10:29
cubexyz	ridiculous	Jan 12 10:29
cubexyz	people pay me to take it off their computers	Jan 12 10:29
oiaohm	sebsebsebb: watching tennis and hating the humidity.	Jan 12 10:30
cubexyz	oiaohm, let me guess.... Brisbane?	Jan 12 10:30
oiaohm	cubexyz: right state for where I am I am watching Sidney.	Jan 12 10:31
sebsebsebb	oiaohm: hating humanity ?	Jan 12 10:31
sebsebsebb	how why?	Jan 12 10:31
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cubexyz	we had a -40C day recently	Jan 12 10:31
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cubexyz	oldest day I can remember	Jan 12 10:31
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cubexyz	humidity.... :)	Jan 12 10:32
sebsebsebb	oh	Jan 12 10:32
cubexyz	coldest day rather	Jan 12 10:33
cubexyz	I heard that some computers you can't even hit a key to get into UEFI menu	Jan 12 10:35
cubexyz	MinceR's worry that computers are getting locked down is becoming true	Jan 12 10:35
schestowitz	sebsebsebb: welcome back!	Jan 12 10:36
cubexyz	assuming your computer has windows preloaded, you have to boot windows to change the UEFI settings	Jan 12 10:37
sebsebsebb	does razielle still come here sometimes?	Jan 12 10:38
sebsebsebb	schestowitz: uh well kind of, but using the rubbish os right now so uhmm	Jan 12 10:38
sebsebsebb	schestowitz: came on for ubuntu spport. seems I just need refus, see aboe	Jan 12 10:38
oiaohm	sebsebsebb: I prefer it to rain than sit at 80 percent humity with 30C temp.	Jan 12 10:40
cubexyz	sebsebsebb, not for a while	Jan 12 10:40
cubexyz	not since the holidays I think	Jan 12 10:40
oiaohm	cubexyz: true because some EFI don't fire up the keyboard so you have either pull harddrive or boot into OS and reboot back to firmware.	Jan 12 10:41
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MinceR	oiaohm: swearing up and down that Lendows works won't fix any of the bugs in Lendows	Jan 12 11:01
sebsebsebb	MinceR: Apple Microsoft OpenSUSE	Jan 12 11:02
sebsebsebb	MinceR: Hungarian wall to the rest of the EU, despite it not doing a hungerian version of Brexit :d	Jan 12 11:03
sebsebsebb	MinceR: blamed on the imigrants illegal imigrants !	Jan 12 11:03
MinceR	they'll have to be careful so the money can still get across the wall	Jan 12 11:03
sebsebsebb	yeah	Jan 12 11:03
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oiaohm	MinceR: I have got about 10 different bugs fixed in systemd by rewriting bug reports	Jan 12 11:47
oiaohm	MinceR: so explaining what the fault was correctly.	Jan 12 11:47
MinceR	bit of an uphill battle	Jan 12 11:47
oiaohm	MinceR: more success than what had with some of the sysvinit stack of parts bugs.	Jan 12 11:48
oiaohm	MinceR: I have also had success with openrc and busybox get faults fixed.	Jan 12 11:48
MinceR	or you could write your own init	Jan 12 11:48
MinceR	and replace the existing one with it	Jan 12 11:48
oiaohm	MinceR: done that before	Jan 12 11:49
oiaohm	MinceR: that is how come I know the coner cases.	Jan 12 11:49
oiaohm	MinceR: and you cannot just plan to make a init in isolation.	Jan 12 11:50
MinceR	you can, if you stick to doing init's job	Jan 12 11:50
oiaohm	MinceR: really you think so. Like it or not you very quickly need service management. You need to have the init system be able to reload self and	Jan 12 11:51
oiaohm	MinceR: have init system cleaning up zombies way everything core expects.	Jan 12 11:51
oiaohm	MinceR: reporting zombie killing to logging.	Jan 12 11:52
MinceR	service management can be done outside init	Jan 12 11:52
MinceR	and if your init is simple enough then it doesn't really need to be able to reload itself	Jan 12 11:52
oiaohm	You don't know the conner cases. you do need the reload at times for some of the device drivers out their to reset themselves.	Jan 12 11:54
oiaohm	Basically PID1 changes are hooked to way more things that what it should be.	Jan 12 11:54
oiaohm	MinceR: basically everything about PID1 on Linux/Unix is not documented completely and there are a lot of thing exploiting behavours that sysvinit had.	Jan 12 11:55
oiaohm	MinceR: and if you don't have those behavours bad things happen.	Jan 12 11:56
oiaohm	MinceR: personally i would love to go stuff having PID1 at all.	Jan 12 11:56
MinceR	you could fix those other programs instead :>	Jan 12 11:56
oiaohm	MinceR: not when you are talking something closed source like orcale db and it addons.	Jan 12 11:57
oiaohm	Not every Unix had a PID1.	Jan 12 11:58
oiaohm	Some lose zombies was the job kernel to clean up.	Jan 12 11:58
oiaohm	So the first program run could exist.	Jan 12 11:58
oiaohm	opps not exist I meant exit	Jan 12 11:59
oiaohm	MinceR: what really is the logic that the complex system dies just because PID1 segfaults or equal.	Jan 12 12:00
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MinceR	oracle should die in a fire anyway	Jan 12 12:04
oiaohm	MinceR: I understand the need of a service manager, something being responsible to clean up zombie processes. Really I have never really understood why have Init that failure kills the system.	Jan 12 12:05
MinceR	probably because nobody wanted to think harder about how it should be recovered from	Jan 12 12:05
MinceR	Linux may be willing to accept a patch that improves that behavior though	Jan 12 12:06
oiaohm	Never properly engineered in the first place?	Jan 12 12:06
MinceR	¯\_(ツ)_/¯	Jan 12 12:06
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oiaohm	X11 has been legacy, sysvinit was legacy. Neither really audited to see if they worked from engineering point of view for Linux.	Jan 12 12:08
oiaohm	Before 100 percent commiting to them.	Jan 12 12:08
oiaohm	At some point proper quality control and engineering had to start.	Jan 12 12:08
MinceR	that would be a good idea, yes	Jan 12 12:09
MinceR	but it's getting less likely to happen	Jan 12 12:09
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oiaohm	I don't see getting there as easy process.	Jan 12 12:10
oiaohm	Or painless	Jan 12 12:10
MinceR	i've been thinking about distros and things are getting really grim	Jan 12 12:10
oiaohm	It need to get very grim.	Jan 12 12:11
oiaohm	We have had far too many people creating distributions without the resources to support what they were doing.	Jan 12 12:11
oiaohm	We need about 80% of Linux distributions to some how cease being developed.	Jan 12 12:12
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MinceR	sure, but it looks like there aren't any people left	Jan 12 12:13
oiaohm	And that is the ones without resources to do security updates and the like in reasonable time frame.	Jan 12 12:13
MinceR	i've seen complaints about lack of manpower in devuan	Jan 12 12:13
MinceR	all the corporate distros are garbage	Jan 12 12:13
oiaohm	The man power was not there in the first place.	Jan 12 12:13
MinceR	many others are just too small to do much	Jan 12 12:13
oiaohm	Light on man power split it a 20 000 ways does not help.	Jan 12 12:14
MinceR	i may end up being stuck with essentially doing all the stability and security updates myself for my own computers	Jan 12 12:14
oiaohm	Really devuan kinda of doomed themselves. They are attempting to support a lot of init systems that don't have enough developers behind them to make confirmed working kit.	Jan 12 12:15
MinceR	afaik they're only attempting to support 1, for now	Jan 12 12:16
MinceR	but at least it's one that's easy to swap out for others	Jan 12 12:16
oiaohm	Why were major distributions at worst choosing 2 inits is that all they had resources for.	Jan 12 12:16
MinceR	which ones were?	Jan 12 12:17
oiaohm	sysvinit and something else like upstart/systemd/openrc	Jan 12 12:17
MinceR	which distros?	Jan 12 12:17
oiaohm	Debian still supports switching to sysvinit but maintaince has dropped at this point. Even these big distributions don't have the on going resources to-do it alone.	Jan 12 12:18
MinceR	no, debian doesn't really support switching to sysvinit	Jan 12 12:18
MinceR	as of version 8, they gave you a "choice" of either keeping most of systemd up or losing access to many important packages	Jan 12 12:18
MinceR	that's not much of a "support"	Jan 12 12:19
oiaohm	https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd	Jan 12 12:19
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MinceR	not the most reassuring piece of debian documentation i've ever read, to put it lightly	Jan 12 12:21
oiaohm	MinceR: the reality is even something debian size has limit resources it can be put into a fragmented system like sysvinit.	Jan 12 12:21
MinceR	oh, so having a system built from multiple projects is "fragmented" now?	Jan 12 12:21
MinceR	maybe they should do a BSD fork instead, then	Jan 12 12:21
MinceR	or become a reseller for microsoft	Jan 12 12:21
oiaohm	BSD core projects do make sure all the parts around init logging... all do in fact get QA tested with each other as patches get added to them.	Jan 12 12:22
MinceR	i thought the whole point of a "distribution" was to put an OS together from multiple projects	Jan 12 12:22
oiaohm	MinceR: really the idea of distribution gluing multi projects that inter-dependant on each other and having to QA those parts and custom patch downstream and attempt to get those patches up stream sound like a hot idea.	Jan 12 12:23
oiaohm	MinceR: the QA has been done at the wrong point.	Jan 12 12:24
MinceR	even lendows won't change this until they assassinate Linus and turn Linux into systemd-kerneld	Jan 12 12:24
oiaohm	That point of view does not add up by what has not been merged into systemd.	Jan 12 12:25
oiaohm	MinceR: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/wireless/iwd.git/ also you are not considering this.	Jan 12 12:26
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MinceR	should i?	Jan 12 12:27
oiaohm	MinceR: the number of tools that are coming part of the kernel.org because the other userspace stuff has been crap.	Jan 12 12:27
oiaohm	MinceR: so there is a question how long until kernel.org makes it own init system because they are sick of systemd.	Jan 12 12:27
MinceR	would be nice	Jan 12 12:28
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MinceR	except i'm not sure if Linus has the time to deal with that	Jan 12 12:28
oiaohm	This would at least have all the part under 1 unified group.	Jan 12 12:28
MinceR	definitely can't trust GKH or poettering to do it right	Jan 12 12:28
oiaohm	So proper QA can be done.	Jan 12 12:28
MinceR	i wonder if we'll ever see proper QA	Jan 12 12:29
MinceR	after red hat managed to destroy much of the community	Jan 12 12:29
cubexyz	honestly I never had a problem with FC1's init	Jan 12 12:29
oiaohm	The Linux kernel is implementing more and more proper QA with the help of Intel, google, amazon.	Jan 12 12:30
MinceR	that's a bit scary too	Jan 12 12:30
MinceR	what if those corporations decide to do something like what RH did?	Jan 12 12:30
cubexyz	then you make your own distro :)	Jan 12 12:30
oiaohm	The companies doing a lot of the QA work are truly more powerful than RH.	Jan 12 12:31
oiaohm	If they did get serous about killing off systemd they could.	Jan 12 12:31
oiaohm	and something decent would most likely appear in it place.	Jan 12 12:31
MinceR	or just a smoking ruin	Jan 12 12:32
cubexyz	google's working on Fuchsia	Jan 12 12:32
MinceR	fuchsia isn't even unix, is it?	Jan 12 12:32
cubexyz	it's a RTOS	Jan 12 12:32
MinceR	in any case, after android i don't have high hopes for whatever google comes up with	Jan 12 12:32
oiaohm	fuchsia has some posix but is not designed for servers.	Jan 12 12:32
MinceR	(sure, it's better than the mess running on mobile devices but that's about it)	Jan 12 12:33
oiaohm	fuchsia is highly dependant on C++ logic including namespace.	Jan 12 12:33
oiaohm	with cross platform compliers and C++ glitches fuchsia could be really fun.	Jan 12 12:33
cubexyz	I don't know, maybe a RTOS is good	Jan 12 12:33
oiaohm	Its not like fuchsia is going to support everyone from 486 forwards like the Linux kernel does.	Jan 12 12:34
cubexyz	everyone isn't going to switch to Plan 9	Jan 12 12:34
cubexyz	I wouldn't say Linux always supports 486	Jan 12 12:36
cubexyz	very much not the case	Jan 12 12:36
oiaohm	cubexyz: a group did a tested with gentoo recently it still works.	Jan 12 12:36
cubexyz	with how much ram?	Jan 12 12:37
oiaohm	cubexyz: 64 megs	Jan 12 12:37
cubexyz	haha sure	Jan 12 12:37
oiaohm	16 mins boot time.	Jan 12 12:37
MinceR	lol	Jan 12 12:38
cubexyz	how many 486's mobo's even supported 64 megs I wonder	Jan 12 12:38
cubexyz	you want BL3 for a 486	Jan 12 12:38
cubexyz	but that's retrocomputing specialists only	Jan 12 12:38
cubexyz	don't even bother with anything modern	Jan 12 12:39
cubexyz	not on 486	Jan 12 12:39
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qSziR6sD8Q amd 486 clone is that video.	Jan 12 12:39
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cubexyz	for masochists :)	Jan 12 12:40
oiaohm	cubexyz: 64megs of ram is a standard 486/386 motherboard maxed out.	Jan 12 12:40
cubexyz	I did it with 16 megs	Jan 12 12:40
cubexyz	ok, maybe my 486 board could do it with the right ram, I never tried	Jan 12 12:40
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cubexyz	if I was going to try something like that I would do PDP-11 on a FPGA	Jan 12 12:41
oiaohm	cubexyz: getting the ram would be the problem.	Jan 12 12:41
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oiaohm	cubexyz: 4x16 meg sticks of that ram type is hard to get.	Jan 12 12:41
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpg	Jan 12 12:42
MinceR	those were the days	Jan 12 12:42
oiaohm	cubexyz: please note that 486 one was running unmodified current day gentoo other than building for 486.	Jan 12 12:43
cubexyz	well there was less bloat	Jan 12 12:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: but I was kind of shocked that 64 megs is in fact enough to turn over a modern Linux distribution admititly slowly.	Jan 12 12:43
cubexyz	would 486 be safe from meltdown and spectre? :)	Jan 12 12:43
MinceR	yes	Jan 12 12:44
MinceR	they don't have out-of-order execution	Jan 12 12:44
oiaohm	you still have the addresss randomisation crack ona 486.	Jan 12 12:44
cubexyz	and no UEFI to worry about	Jan 12 12:44
oiaohm	But on 486 you most likely don't want the overhead of address randomisation.	Jan 12 12:44
MinceR	even rpi-s are safe from Meltdown® and Spectre®, afaik	Jan 12 12:44
oiaohm	rpi is faster.	Jan 12 12:45
MinceR	yup	Jan 12 12:45
cubexyz	my 486 didn't even have an ethernet card, I used PLIP	Jan 12 12:45
oiaohm	by large margin	Jan 12 12:45
MinceR	even Cortex-A53 is in-order	Jan 12 12:45
oiaohm	A55 is not effected either and is faster than the A53 both are in-order.	Jan 12 12:46
MinceR	sure, but iirc the rpi3 has the A53	Jan 12 12:46
oiaohm	if you are looking in the clones.	Jan 12 12:47
cubexyz	BL3 was slack derived... another reason why slack is awesome	Jan 12 12:47
MinceR	i had too many issues with support to look at clones lightly	Jan 12 12:47
cubexyz	but like MinceR said years ago... very slow for anything related to encryption	Jan 12 12:48
cubexyz	you would have a lot of trouble browsing the modern web	Jan 12 12:48
MinceR	the "modern" web is trouble regardless :>	Jan 12 12:49
cubexyz	is this site lynx friendly? he asked	Jan 12 12:50
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oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpa_supplicant I find this fairly shocking fairly major security flaw found and major release addressing it. I can understand why intel has gone lets support writing replacement iwd.	Jan 12 12:52
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oiaohm	to be correct Wpa_supplicant does not have a release that fixed the KRACK bug	Jan 12 12:52
oiaohm	So you have to run development tree.	Jan 12 12:53
cubexyz	broadband on a 486 would probably not be too great either	Jan 12 12:54
cubexyz	I think I was getting around 32K per sec on PLIP	Jan 12 12:54
oiaohm	cubexyz: depends on how bad your broadband is. I know a 486 could keep up with some of the worst ADSL out there.	Jan 12 12:55
cubexyz	the parallel port could only do about 30K/s	Jan 12 12:55
cubexyz	maybe with an ethernet card it wouldn't be too bad	Jan 12 12:56
oiaohm	cubexyz: I have seen ADSL connections that work that are only doing 16Kilobit per second. So good dialup moden connection faster.	Jan 12 12:56
oiaohm	cubexyz: so broadband from hell 486 would be suitable. Decent broadband would not be.	Jan 12 12:58
MinceR	https://imgur.com/gallery/zOp9U	Jan 12 13:04
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cubexyz	what did Voyager 1 use for it's computer?	Jan 12 13:05
MinceR	probably some old x86	Jan 12 13:05
MinceR	built for use in space	Jan 12 13:05
cubexyz	custom built says wikipedia	Jan 12 13:07
oiaohm	cubexyz: in the most horrible sense of the word.	Jan 12 13:08
cubexyz	I'm impressed it still works at all	Jan 12 13:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html sorry I was thinking wrong ones . Pioneer 10 and 11 and Viking are a stack of TTL chips.	Jan 12 13:13
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cubexyz	GE 18-bit TTL	Jan 12 13:14
MinceR	:)	Jan 12 13:15
MinceR	interesting hw redundancy in there	Jan 12 13:15
oiaohm	http://digitarworld.uw.hu/ttlcpu.html << this kind of CPYU design.	Jan 12 13:15
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cubexyz	anything that works for over 40 years is pretty good	Jan 12 13:16
oiaohm	The concept of a 18 bit cpu.	Jan 12 13:17
cubexyz	the early PDPs were also 18 bit	Jan 12 13:17
oiaohm	So 16 bits was not quite enough.	Jan 12 13:17
cubexyz	I never understood why though	Jan 12 13:17
oiaohm	and it was very expenise to go-to 32 bit	Jan 12 13:17
oiaohm	So lets do 18 bits	Jan 12 13:18
cubexyz	I think maybe because of the 6-bit character set?	Jan 12 13:18
oiaohm	Trying to get a 18 bit cpu these days is a little bit of a up hill battle.	Jan 12 13:18
MinceR	could probably program one on an FPGA	Jan 12 13:19
cubexyz	IBM did things in 8-bit multiples as EBCDIC was 8-bit	Jan 12 13:22
cubexyz	but exactly why 18-bit.... not sure	Jan 12 13:23
cubexyz	I guess it's got to be the old 6-bit character set	Jan 12 13:25
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sebsebsebb	oh	Jan 12 15:39
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oiaohm	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/11/cisco_sniff_malware_inside_encrypted_traffic/ << Ok what other information can be worked out.	Jan 12 16:57
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DaemonFC	People think that nothing can happen to Apple, but they are, in fact, behaving like America Online was in 1999. Throwing lots of money at businesses that are essentially worthless just to own them or just shut them down so that it won't have to produce a better product.	Jan 12 17:31
DaemonFC	^From one of my posts on Facebook.	Jan 12 17:31
DaemonFC	MinceR: Thoughts?	Jan 12 17:31
DaemonFC	Just an observation I've made.	Jan 12 17:31
DaemonFC	MinceR: Like Shazam.	Jan 12 17:33
DaemonFC	$400 million to acquire an app that tells you what song is playing. Sounds an awful lot like an ICQ or a Winamp to me.	Jan 12 17:34
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://techpinions.com/apples-indirect-prescence-fades-from-ces/51967 << Have you seen this.	Jan 12 17:35
DaemonFC	Just because your product is overwhelmingly popular doesn't mean you'll make money.	Jan 12 17:35
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DaemonFC	I think AOL paid, what, a billion dollars for ICQ?	Jan 12 17:35
oiaohm	Apple without other vendors supplying stuff could be in a lot of trouble.	Jan 12 17:35
DaemonFC	I used ICQ for about five minutes.	Jan 12 17:37
DaemonFC	oiaohm: You mean like how they're trying to source their own components to save money?	Jan 12 17:38
DaemonFC	I don't know why that, in itself, would be a disaster.	Jan 12 17:38
oiaohm	DaemonFC: at CES every year there was parties selling Apple addon tools.	Jan 12 17:39
oiaohm	DaemonFC: this year none.	Jan 12 17:39
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ ICQ is not dead yet.	Jan 12 17:40
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oiaohm	But well and truly past is prime.	Jan 12 17:40
DaemonFC	oiaohm: Apple won't suffer for that.	Jan 12 17:41
DaemonFC	They make MORE money. Eventually those $300 earbuds will be mandatory and idiots will keep buying.	Jan 12 17:42
DaemonFC	And losing them. And buying more.	Jan 12 17:42
oiaohm	DaemonFC: https://9to5mac.com/2016/01/05/ces-2016-apple-iphone-ipad-mac-accessories/ << this is what last year looked like.	Jan 12 17:44
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oiaohm	DaemonFC: opps year before	Jan 12 17:45
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there are lot of bits that were addons to work around apples extreamly rough edges.	Jan 12 17:46
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DaemonFC	I called the police on some guy who tied his dog to the bumper of his pickup truck.	Jan 12 19:21
DaemonFC	It's 2 degrees and snowing outside.	Jan 12 19:21
DaemonFC	This guy leaves the dog out there and does his grocery shopping.	Jan 12 19:22
DaemonFC	I came out and three Chicago police patrol cars are waiting on him.	Jan 12 19:22
cubexyz	wow	Jan 12 19:22
cubexyz	I must ask C or F	Jan 12 19:22
cubexyz	2 degrees fahrenheit would be very cold	Jan 12 19:23
DaemonFC	F	Jan 12 19:25
cubexyz	you did the right thing	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	cubexyz: The wind is blowing so fast that Lake Michigan is crashing up over the wall onto Lake hore Drive and into traffic.	Jan 12 19:25
DaemonFC	*Shore	Jan 12 19:26
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cubexyz	-16 C with wind would be very unpleasant	Jan 12 19:27
DaemonFC	It's pretty normal here.	Jan 12 19:28
DaemonFC	It was -20 the other night with wind chill. -2 without factoring that in.	Jan 12 19:28
DaemonFC	Fahrenheit	Jan 12 19:28
cubexyz	ugh	Jan 12 19:28
DaemonFC	It starts hurting about 5-10 minutes after you go outside, even dressed appropriately.	Jan 12 19:29
DaemonFC	cubexyz: I can't complain, really.	Jan 12 19:29
DaemonFC	There's lots of people living in tents in this.	Jan 12 19:30
DaemonFC	They got priced out of their own city and became homeless.	Jan 12 19:30
DaemonFC	They got priced out of their own homes by rent and tax increases.	Jan 12 19:33
DaemonFC	And seemingly without realizing the irony, County Board President Toni Preckwinkle says "The taxes fund services for the poor.".	Jan 12 19:33
DaemonFC	Apparently "services" being "After you lost your home to the price increase, the police come out and rip up your tent and throw your belongings away.	Jan 12 19:33
DaemonFC	Then they say "It's for your own safety.".	Jan 12 19:35
oiaohm	DaemonFC: so the dog was not something like a malamute	Jan 12 19:40
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the strange problem with Antarctica and when malamute were used down there was if they were put some where heated when they went outside they would end up freezing to death. But they were fine in −89.2 °C −128.6 °F if they were not heated up.	Jan 12 19:42
oiaohm	DaemonFC: how come heating malamute was problem is that would melt the snow on their coat and wet the inner coat causing them to freese to death at -10C	Jan 12 19:44
oiaohm	DaemonFC: so it was make sure the dog was absolutely dry if they had to be brought into somewhere heated before they could leave.	Jan 12 19:45
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MinceR	DaemonFC: dunno. was AOL a cult at some point?	Jan 12 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951965123689709574	Jan 12 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora Articles/News	Jan 12 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951966857816309760	Jan 13 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	Games: Civilization VI, Hex: Shards of Fate, Next Up	Jan 13 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	Hero, Shoppe Keep 2, Cendric and More	Jan 13 00:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951967313099673603	Jan 13 00:03
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos	Jan 13 00:03
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TweetTuxMachines	Software: OpenGenus, StackEdit, Lightworks	Jan 13 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/fbHuHBBRI2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux and Graphics (Phoronix)	Jan 13 00:07
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Foundation's Work on SPDX and Work for Microsoft	Jan 13 00:09
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TweetTuxMachines	Servers: Concurrency, Purism, InSpec, Kubernetes,	Jan 13 00:10
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TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers	Jan 13 00:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/951971484959956993	Jan 13 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	Links 12/1/2018: New *buntu ISOs. KDE Applications	Jan 13 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	17.12.1 https://t.co/lMbCbrSvRT (techrights.org)	Jan 13 00:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/951971627507638272	Jan 13 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Games: Civilization VI, Hex: Shards of Fate, Next Up	Jan 13 00:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Hero, Shoppe Keep 2, Cendric and More	Jan 13 00:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/951971687389646849	Jan 13 00:19
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux in Cars and Watches	Jan 13 00:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/951973862643830784	Jan 13 00:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/951975342666792960	Jan 13 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Raspberry Pi Zero WH SBCs Are Now Available with	Jan 13 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 Professionally Soldered Headers	Jan 13 00:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SfSeUqCQNM (www.tuxmachines.org) #raspi	Jan 13 00:38
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MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/9u2RqWR.png	Jan 13 00:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/Myway500/status/951976207309946880	Jan 13 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" Respin ISOs Are Now	Jan 13 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@Myway500 Available to Download	Jan 13 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/cegjZJPUUh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 00:51
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*TweetTuxMachines @amuseum favourited 'Games: Civilization VI, Hex: Shards of Fate, Next...'		Jan 13 01:55
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cubexyz	railway empire will be released soon for Linux	Jan 13 06:01
cubexyz	jan 26th, 2018	Jan 13 06:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @jpbeneke favourited 'Raspberry Pi Zero WH SBCs Are Now Available...'		Jan 13 06:49
schestowitz	[00:47] <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/9u2RqWR.png	Jan 13 06:50
schestowitz	MinceR: what's the meaning of it?	Jan 13 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/952069974260174848	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Links 12/1/2018: New *buntu ISOs. KDE Applications	Jan 13 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz 17.12.1 https://t.co/lMbCbrSvRT (techrights.org)	Jan 13 06:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952076323127689216	Jan 13 07:14
TweetTuxMachines	buntu 17.04 End Of Life and buntu 17.10.1	Jan 13 07:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UhOdMXBb4B (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu	Jan 13 07:14
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 13 07:14
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TweetTuxMachines @GentooBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'buntu 17.04 End Of Life and *buntu 17.10.1...'		Jan 13 07:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952077037405122560	Jan 13 07:18
TweetTuxMachines	#Wine 3.0 RC6	Jan 13 07:18
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TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'buntu 17.04 End Of Life and *buntu 17.10.1...'		Jan 13 07:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952078662656053249	Jan 13 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	#Debian vs. #Ubuntu vs. #CentOS vs. #openSUSE vs.	Jan 13 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	#ClearLinux Post-Meltdown Performance	Jan 13 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xZkklWZOTp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 07:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952079402308898816	Jan 13 07:28
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny module and SBC run #Linux or #Android on i.MX8M	Jan 13 07:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952082021270122496	Jan 13 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	The Top 10 Linux Distros You Never Heard About	Jan 13 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GwLt4uLFYS (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #gnu	Jan 13 07:38
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TweetTuxMachines	#linux	Jan 13 07:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @GentooBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The Top 10 Linux Distros You Never Heard...'		Jan 13 07:40
*TweetTuxMachines @Pyrokitteh retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Tiny module and SBC run #Linux or #Android...'		Jan 13 07:42
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The Top 10 Linux Distros You Never Heard...'		Jan 13 07:45
*TweetTuxMachines @GamerGeekNews retweeted @tuxmachines: 'The Top 10 Linux Distros You Never Heard...'		Jan 13 07:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/GamerGeekNews/status/952085829421182977	Jan 13 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by #Debian vs. #Ubuntu vs. #CentOS vs. #openSUSE vs.	Jan 13 08:01
TweetTuxMachines	@GamerGeekNews #ClearLinux Post-Meltdown Performance	Jan 13 08:01
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cubexyz	I've been considering the time I used my various earlier computers	Jan 13 08:13
cubexyz	vic-20: 1982-1985	Jan 13 08:13
cubexyz	c64: 1985-1989 (a similar interval)	Jan 13 08:14
cubexyz	286: 1986-1990	Jan 13 08:14
cubexyz	then a series of 386s, a 486, a pentium, etc	Jan 13 08:14
cubexyz	but the P3 server built in 1998? Still in use	Jan 13 08:15
cubexyz	oh yeah, the amiga 500 was 1987-1992 or so	Jan 13 08:15
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cubexyz	I guess the 5 year corporate cycle has some logical to it	Jan 13 08:17
cubexyz	I used the c64 a bit longer than 1989... but that was when I stopped programming on it	Jan 13 08:18
cubexyz	a bit of a pity I didn't immediately put redhat 5.2 on the server back when I first built it	Jan 13 08:24
cubexyz	now the monitor itself.... that probably wouldn't last 20 years	Jan 13 08:26
cubexyz	my oldest LCD is 2003... so it would have to last to 2023 to make 20	Jan 13 08:27
cubexyz	and printers... ugh.... I got a giant stack of broken ones	Jan 13 08:29
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 13 08:46
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cubexyz	hey	Jan 13 08:51
cubexyz	did you get your laptop working?	Jan 13 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/BashNews/status/952092035183456256	Jan 13 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Tiny module and SBC run #Linux or #Android on i.MX8M	Jan 13 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@BashNews https://t.co/QXK0PexidG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 13 09:04
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sebsebseb	cubexyz: no	Jan 13 09:07
sebsebseb	cubexyz: still issues, but got omething to see if i can disable in bios that may help, plus there's a kernel paramater or two i could try	Jan 13 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/952121556804698112	Jan 13 10:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/GwLt4uLFYS (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #gnu	Jan 13 10:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linux_en/status/952127937528107009	Jan 13 10:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@linux_en https://t.co/UhOdMXBb4B (www.tuxmachines.org) #ubuntu	Jan 13 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 13 10:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/952130092720906240	Jan 13 10:50
TweetTuxMachines	#Intel is Full of Holes	Jan 13 10:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/14JeifeflC (www.tuxmachines.org) #security	Jan 13 10:50
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sebsebseb	cubexyz: around?	Jan 13 11:59
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MinceR	schestowitz: it's Frieza from DBZ as a literal freezer	Jan 13 12:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines https://twitter.com/linuxuser3/status/952141689124106241	Jan 13 13:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@linuxuser3 https://t.co/14JeifeflC (www.tuxmachines.org) #security	Jan 13 13:18
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cubexyz	I am now	Jan 13 13:20
MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmSrULDVRPc	Jan 13 13:25
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schestowitz	James Damoron lawsuit partner says Google is dominated by a racist, man-hating ‘hate group’ https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/12/16885560/david-gudeman-james-damore-google-lawsuit-misandrist-liberal-hate-group-accusation he has gone nuts\	Jan 13 13:44
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TweetTuxMachines	More Intel Catastrophes and Bricking of PCs Due to	Jan 13 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JbMv61SADk (www.tuxmachines.org) #intel	Jan 13 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@TDLEnergy https://t.co/GwLt4uLFYS (www.tuxmachines.org) #bsd #gnu	Jan 13 17:55
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XRevan86	https://twitter.com/JabberRu/status/951941813736235013	Jan 13 18:37
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MinceR	so that's why pochta.ru decided they wanted my phone number	Jan 13 18:38
MinceR	fucking fascists	Jan 13 18:38
XRevan86	MinceR: Um, the Russian govt mail service?	Jan 13 18:39
MinceR	i guess so	Jan 13 18:40
XRevan86	dunno about them, the requirements are about Internet (instant?) messaging	Jan 13 18:40
XRevan86	I also dunno how I'm planning to continue to live in this country.	Jan 13 18:41
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XRevan86	MinceR: Maybe you meant pochta.com?	Jan 13 18:58
XRevan86	one of QIP's domains	Jan 13 18:58
MinceR	qip.ru	Jan 13 18:58
XRevan86	I just tried to log in my old QIP account, and… they want a phone number out of me.	Jan 13 18:58
XRevan86	MinceR: They don't have to require it from you though, only citizens of RF are obligated to sell themselves out.	Jan 13 18:59
XRevan86	I guess they just didn't bother making a check of citizenship.	Jan 13 19:00
MinceR	:>	Jan 13 19:00
XRevan86	recaptcha is so time consuming	Jan 13 19:03
XRevan86	I was answering their questions for minutes	Jan 13 19:04
XRevan86	they just kept giving me more and more	Jan 13 19:04
MinceR	yeah, it's evil	Jan 13 19:05
*XRevan86 is trying to get authenticated there with a fake number %).		Jan 13 19:07
XRevan86	Services that suddenly start requiring extra stuff should at least give an hour for the usee to make amends – to delete one's account that is	Jan 13 19:07
MinceR	i just stopped using qip	Jan 13 19:09
XRevan86	MinceR: I will too, just after I dummify all info about myself…	Jan 13 19:14
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TweetTuxMachines	#GCC 8.0 vs. #LLVM #Clang 6.0 On #AMD #EPYC	Jan 13 19:19
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TweetTuxMachines	Hands on With System76’s Beautiful Linux Distro #PopOS	Jan 13 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Tweaking #Ubuntu 17.10 To Try To Run Like Clear Linux	Jan 13 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines	#MXLinux MX-17 Horizon - Shaping up beautifully	Jan 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FoPRFyusmr (www.tuxmachines.org) #gnu #linux	Jan 13 20:53
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TweetTuxMachines	LittleFS: A New File-System For ARM Embedded Devices	Jan 13 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/y9cn1bZI3U (www.tuxmachines.org) #LittleFS	Jan 13 20:53
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XRevan86	MinceR: After reading the comments I found out "sike" ("phych") and "псих" are one and the same %).	Jan 13 21:10
MinceR	:)	Jan 13 21:10
XRevan86	* psych	Jan 13 21:11
XRevan86	"псих" means a nut case	Jan 13 21:11
MinceR	psych doesn't, though	Jan 13 21:12
XRevan86	MinceR: Indeed.	Jan 13 21:12
XRevan86	MinceR: Yet if I were to respell "псих" using the Latin alphabet, "psych" would be what I end up with	Jan 13 21:15
MinceR	not "psikh"?	Jan 13 21:15
XRevan86	MinceR: If I were trying to preserve the Greek origins of the word, of course :)	Jan 13 21:16
XRevan86	the strict transliteration rules dictate that from Russian Cyrillic to English Latin it should be transliterated as "psikh", yes	Jan 13 21:18
XRevan86	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1278282#c76 that didn't take long %)	Jan 13 21:21
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MinceR	they should also check for cancerd and quit with some misleading error message of not	Jan 13 21:25
XRevan86	MinceR: But you know, strict transliteration rules exist as a way of consistent, reproducible and formalised transliteration.	Jan 13 21:30
XRevan86	so I wouldn't advise using them as an authority in more informal cases	Jan 13 21:31
XRevan86	as they don't take into account word etymology, established conventions and quirks of both languages and pronunciation	Jan 13 21:31
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