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MinceR>As the great Sean Connery once said when a book fell on his head: "I have only my shelf to blame."Nov 04 00:05
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tessierschestowitz: Correct. I expect we will be shutting down most of it by the end of December and the sooner we can decom VMs the sooner we can save money.Nov 04 04:31
DaemonFC[m]I'm thinking of wiping my system and putting Kubuntu on it.Nov 04 04:50
DaemonFC[m]They have Plasma 5.14 in the Backports PPA. Nov 04 04:50
DaemonFC[m]Worth a try, maybe.Nov 04 04:50
DaemonFC[m]The Wayland support was almost usable, but crashed enough to be annoying in 18.04 LTS.Nov 04 04:50
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Nov 04 08:34
schestowitz> Nov 04 08:34
schestowitz> During the next year I'm going to try moving from Google.  However INov 04 08:34
schestowitz> don't have a good plan yet.  I'll try GMX a bit but it too is invasive.Nov 04 08:34
schestowitzI only use Google for news search as there's no potent alternative.Nov 04 08:34
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schestowitz<li><h5><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Solus-Open-Letter" rel="nofollow">An Open Letter To Solus From Its Founder Ikey Doherty</a></h5>Nov 04 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Open Letter To Solus From Its Founder Ikey Doherty - PhoronixNov 04 10:04
schestowitz<blockquote>Nov 04 10:04
schestowitz <p>Whilst its true this was not a "clean break" for me - I can only say there are mitigating circumstances as to why this came about, during some of the hardest moments of my life. Needless to say I am without access to many of my old accounts, which is not something I'm able to rectify. However I have emailed instructions to Josh in order that the Solus team can take back ownership of the domain name, as my final gesture.  </p>Nov 04 10:04
schestowitz</blockquote>Nov 04 10:04
schestowitz</li>Nov 04 10:04
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/z4CR9ag.gifvNov 04 14:38
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrKiypWWsAMLxf_.jpgNov 04 15:33
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I stepped down on the Seroquel again last night by quartering one of the tablets I got in the ermergency room.Nov 04 16:56
DaemonFC[m]Still managed to sleep. Yay.Nov 04 16:57
DaemonFC[m]That's an 85% reduction of that med since last Thursday.Nov 04 16:57
DaemonFC[m]I'm not using them the way they prescribed them to me.Nov 04 16:57
DaemonFC[m]I'm trying to get my body closer to normal functioning this time before discontinuing them entirely.Nov 04 16:57
MinceR:)Nov 04 17:00
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to take 50s for a while and then start using a nail file to round the pill fragment to "roughly half" that.Nov 04 17:03
DaemonFC[m]So, 20-30 mg. I'm not going to get an exact dose at that point, but if I use the pill splitter again, it'll jsut crush them and I'll lose the entire thing.Nov 04 17:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The November 2018 Issue of the #PCLinuxOS Magazine http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117103 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51b59374-c05a-4c99-8099-9b8d7660c22c]Nov 04 17:09
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #4MLinux 26.2 released. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117105 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb97e6d6-2bb7-412c-86ed-89fa09471851]Nov 04 19:27
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acer-box__#Linux 4.19.1 Released While 4.20~5.0 Merge Window Ends TodayNov 04 19:30
acer-box__ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117106Nov 04 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.19.1 Released While 4.20~5.0 Merge Window Ends Today | Tux MachinesNov 04 19:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Outline of KDE/Plasma Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117107 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd73e7ce-f726-4dac-a009-78f3a257200b]Nov 04 19:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Vulkan, WattmanGTK and AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117108 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f0a9fc26-e102-48e3-ab93-d09b35a778bf]Nov 04 19:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Rust, GCC, Teaching Kids To Code, and RProtoBuf http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117109 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7372989d-a4e1-442e-8a3f-81a3401dd6d7]Nov 04 19:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Linux 4.20/5.0 Kernel Is The Biggest All Year With 354+ Thousand Lines Of New Code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117110 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f2a18558-1c11-4a33-8852-a4b442f8b06c]Nov 04 19:57
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1811053Nov 05 00:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Various Features In Git - Git Series Part 5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117113 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba1055d0-0f8a-4a17-867d-758c7fe6ed4c]Nov 05 02:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Fedora 29 and #NeuroFedora http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117118 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f1babed2-07df-4a39-8ce6-a108123def25]Nov 05 03:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Secure-K OS is amongst us (a Penguin tries out it) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117119 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d3b74741-8423-4754-9f77-d5d868f444ea]Nov 05 03:03
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MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/5unyll3trcw11.jpgNov 05 08:14
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrPmd_SXcAA7Ner.jpg:largeNov 05 14:08
MinceRhttps://magyarchan.net/boards/i/image/1541/42/15414266336291.webmNov 05 14:08
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: “The Open Organization", Addison Snell and Red Hat Independence http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117126 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a2876f1b-ac22-4414-a78a-e84bca863d20]Nov 05 15:23
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-T2-Blocks-Linux-UEFINov 05 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's New Hardware With The T2 Security Chip Will Currently Block Linux From Booting - PhoronixNov 05 17:09
XRevan86> UEFI Secure Boot validatioNov 05 17:10
XRevan86yayNov 05 17:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, SMS Phishing, Open Source Security Podcast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117133 [https://pleroma.site/objects/94d70a2e-e015-4ac4-b4ca-d0c35abcc0ab]Nov 05 17:12
DaemonFC[m]Not many updates today. X.org Server 1.20.3 fixes a couple of security issues, but they wouldn't be a problem in Fedora unless you're using proprietary graphics drivers.Nov 05 17:16
DaemonFC[m]Otherwise, the X server runs as you.Nov 05 17:16
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MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/g978s53briw11.jpgNov 05 18:16
MinceRfinally apple got rid of the last reason to use their hardwareNov 05 18:16
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MinceR"security"Nov 05 18:18
MinceR>According to Apple Support it may be possible to disable the Secure Boot securityNov 05 18:22
MinceR>according to support it may beNov 05 18:22
MinceRthey don't know!Nov 05 18:22
MinceRwhose job is it to know that, if not theirs?Nov 05 18:22
MinceRthe quality of "support" matches crApple quality in other aspects.Nov 05 18:22
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MinceRhttps://apina.biz/38935.jpg?mode=sfw   https://apina.biz/167580.webm?mode=sfwNov 05 20:59
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/SAQ-iIJkLzANov 05 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ZERO-G Challenges of a Trip to Mars! - YouTubeNov 05 21:00
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18110459Nov 05 21:08
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XRevan86MinceR: Why?Nov 05 21:09
MinceRXRevan86: Myth. Not Even Once.Nov 05 21:10
XRevan86MinceR: Why is this vehicle covered in Jesus?Nov 05 21:11
MinceRbecause it's operated by someone suffering from a serious christianity infectionNov 05 21:11
XRevan86any particular reason to scribe Jesus on it?Nov 05 21:11
XRevan86MinceR: It was scribed by the owner?Nov 05 21:12
MinceRprobablyNov 05 21:12
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/554914.jpgNov 05 21:28
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oiaohmhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/flaws-in-self-encrypting-ssds-let-attackers-bypass-disk-encryption/  Yep what I suspected.   That embedded harddrive encryption could be fake.Nov 06 00:30
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sebsebsebMinceR: cubexyz schestowitz pingNov 06 00:32
sebsebsebXFaCE:  pingNov 06 00:32
cubexyzhelloNov 06 00:32
sebsebseboiaohm:  pinfNov 06 00:32
sebsebsebpingNov 06 00:32
sebsebsebcubexyz: Redhat has depreacted KDENov 06 00:33
sebsebsebcubexyz: can add from a unsupported repo but not supported by defaultNov 06 00:33
sebsebsebin RHEL anymoreNov 06 00:33
cubexyzdepreciated, yes :)Nov 06 00:33
cubexyzbut I don't use RHELNov 06 00:34
sebsebsebcubexyz: https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/kde-deprecated-in-rhel-7-6-future-version/Nov 06 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | KDE has been deprecated in RHEL 7.6 and future version of RHEL - nixCraftNov 06 00:34
sebsebsebcubexyz: no I don't either obviously but this is still somethingNov 06 00:34
cubexyzok, that could be an acceptable alternate spellingNov 06 00:35
cubexyzthat I haven't seen beforeNov 06 00:35
cubexyzdeprecate is usually considered different from depreciate thoughNov 06 00:36
sebsebsebcubexyz: spelling what, maybe I typoed or whatever but yes deprecateNov 06 00:36
sebsebsebwhat the artcle saysNov 06 00:37
sebsebsebarticleNov 06 00:37
sebsebsebcubexyz: so I guess Fedora may go down that route tooNov 06 00:37
sebsebsebGNOME and nothing else 1Nov 06 00:37
cubexyzdeprecate means "to criticize", while depreciate means "to lower in value"Nov 06 00:37
cubexyzretire is probably closer to the intent hereNov 06 00:38
cubexyzpoor KDE is always getting maligned Nov 06 00:39
cubexyzthat's why I archived it multiple timesNov 06 00:39
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sebsebsebcubexyz: what you mean maligned and in this context too ?Nov 06 00:41
cubexyzKDE 1 -> krubikNov 06 00:41
sebsebsebwhats krublikNov 06 00:41
cubexyzso I wanted to keep thatNov 06 00:41
sebsebsebwhat you mean krublikNov 06 00:42
cubexyzkrubik -> rubik's cube for KDE 1Nov 06 00:42
sebsebsebohNov 06 00:42
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sebsebseband yeah there used to be a bounch ball in kde 3Nov 06 00:42
sebsebsebbouncey ballNov 06 00:42
cubexyzmaybe that's a UK spelling... not sureNov 06 00:43
cubexyzdepends on the dictionary people useNov 06 00:43
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cubexyzwhat I mean by maligned is that KDE does a lot of morphing and some applications are orphanedNov 06 00:44
cubexyzkonsole lost featuresNov 06 00:45
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cubexyzbut... you could put KDE 3.5.10 on a Sun ultra :)Nov 06 00:45
cubexyzI think kontour was orphanedNov 06 00:47
sebsebsebcubexyz: fedoar channel is being interesting about hthis oneNov 06 00:47
sebsebseboffically they only support GNOME and KDE in RHELNov 06 00:47
sebsebsebanything else is in this 3rd party repos or wahtever from Fedora packagersNov 06 00:47
sebsebsebsoon only GNOME be supported offially for RHEL but yeahNov 06 00:48
cubexyza long time ago Spectrum Holobyte made a big stink about people making tetris clonesNov 06 00:49
sebsebsebcubexyz: o h ?Nov 06 00:49
cubexyzso KDE thought krubik was "risky" so it was droppedNov 06 00:50
*sebsebseb really likes Tetris :)Nov 06 00:50
sebsebsebwhat's krublik a tetris like game ?Nov 06 00:50
sebsebsebcubexyz: so you found some old software you still  like, and intentianolly keeping kde 1 around for it ?Nov 06 00:50
cubexyzPajitnov didn't make any money from Tetris for a long timeNov 06 00:51
cubexyzsebsebseb, noNov 06 00:51
cubexyzjust krubik running on (quasi-modern) linuxNov 06 00:51
sebsebsebwhat's quassi modern ?Nov 06 00:51
cubexyzquasi-modern -> 2.6.27.XX kernelNov 06 00:52
cubexyz"somewhat modern"Nov 06 00:52
sebsebsebohNov 06 00:53
cubexyznot sure what the legal status of tetris clones is nowNov 06 00:55
cubexyzremember ksirtet? :)Nov 06 00:55
sebsebsebnoNov 06 00:56
sebsebsebI  only some KDE programs and don't like KDE MuchNov 06 00:56
sebsebsebonly use some KDE programsNov 06 00:56
cubexyzso the copyright on Tetris is Pajitnov's lifespan + 70 years or something ridiculous like thatNov 06 00:57
cubexyzI assume slackware will keep KDE goingNov 06 00:58
oiaohmcubexyz: the trademark on Tetris is longer.Nov 06 00:58
cubexyzoiaohm, it should be public domain now (in my opinion)Nov 06 00:59
cubexyzI can cite many cases of overly broad interpretations of intellectual property lawNov 06 01:01
cubexyzit's mostly bullshitNov 06 01:01
cubexyzthey even said a 10x20 field in a falling block game is copyrightableNov 06 01:02
oiaohmhttps://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/06/defining-tetris-how-courts-judge-gaming-clones/  << This you mean.Nov 06 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Defining Tetris: How courts judge gaming clones | Ars TechnicaNov 06 01:02
cubexyzyes, well that's similarNov 06 01:03
cubexyzand that is hardly the first exampleNov 06 01:05
oiaohmReally this overly broad starts getting in the way of making game engine clones.Nov 06 01:06
oiaohmYes sometimes a engine clone is required because the default engine the maker made is too buggy.Nov 06 01:07
cubexyzwell, they left me alone and I wrote quite a number of rubik's cube simulatorsNov 06 01:08
cubexyzhttp://tetris.wikia.com/wiki/HistoryNov 06 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tetris.wikia.com | History | Tetris Wiki | FANDOM powered by WikiaNov 06 01:09
cubexyzthere's some of the history of tetrisNov 06 01:09
cubexyzMirrorsoft made half a million tetris gamesNov 06 01:10
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oiaohmTo be truthful copyright is meant to stop you direct cloning stuff 1 to 1.      Most of the  rubix cube programs were adding features the cube itself does not have.Nov 06 01:10
oiaohmbut there have been a lot of tetris games where there are absolutely no new features.Nov 06 01:11
cubexyzok, so Atari had several hundred thousand tetris cartridges which were legally worthlessNov 06 01:12
cubexyzI think they were all destroyed tooNov 06 01:13
oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/video-games/those-old-e-t-atari-games-dug-desert-sold-108-n418971  they did not exactly destroy them.Nov 06 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Those Old 'E.T.' Atari Games Dug Up in New Mexico Desert Sold For $108KNov 06 01:15
oiaohmcubexyz: the problem is knowing where they were burried.Nov 06 01:15
cubexyzoiaohm, not to mention some of mine were orthrographic representations, not 3dNov 06 01:15
oiaohmMost of the rulings I have seen against tetris game is that the game play has no new features at all.Nov 06 01:16
cubexyzyou can buy a Tengen Tetris cart for about $100 on ebayNov 06 01:16
cubexyzactually everything on a 2d screen is an orthographic projectionNov 06 01:17
oiaohmhttp://ta3d.org/cquoi-en.php  This is something that is highly warpped.  TA game showed how much you could do with a carefully picked colour list.Nov 06 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ta3d.org | ta3dNov 06 01:18
cubexyzI think the ET carts were just buried, yesNov 06 01:19
oiaohmYes the old TA engine is a true memory leaking and crashing pain in but.Nov 06 01:19
oiaohmcubexyz: atari never did proper destruction.Nov 06 01:19
oiaohmcubexyz: it was cheaper to have them burried somewhere than destroy them.Nov 06 01:19
oiaohmProblem is the somewhere.Nov 06 01:20
cubexyzoiaohm, I don't even think there is an official tetris for linuxNov 06 01:20
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cubexyzhttp://blahg.res0l.net/2009/01/bastet-bastard-tetris/Nov 06 01:37
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/bNPgEJ9.jpgNov 06 07:16
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schestowitz<li><h5><a href="http://www.osnews.com/story/30848/Apple_blocks_Linux_on_new_Macs_with_T2_security_chips" rel="nofollow">Apple blocks Linux on new Macs with T2 security chips</a></h5>Nov 06 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osnews.com | Apple blocks Linux on new Macs with T2 security chipsNov 06 11:41
schestowitz# UEFI finally hits as plannedNov 06 11:41
schestowitz<blockquote>Nov 06 11:41
schestowitz <p> Right now, there is no way to run Linux on the new Mac hardware. Even if you disable Secure Boot, you can still only install macOS and Windows 10 - not Linux. Luckily, Linux users don't have to rely on Macs for good hardware anymore - there are tons of Windows laptops out there that offer the same level of quality with better specifications at lower prices that run Linux just fine. </p>Nov 06 11:41
schestowitz</blockquote>Nov 06 11:41
schestowitz</li>Nov 06 11:41
MinceRhow could Linux users rely on Macs for good hardware?Nov 06 11:43
MinceRmacs never were good hardwareNov 06 11:43
oiaohmMinceR: Its more that people buy macs normally have more money then sence so some crappy application in their appstore makes money.Nov 06 11:58
MinceRyeah, but that has nothing to do with running sane OS-esNov 06 11:59
MinceRor sane kernelsNov 06 11:59
oiaohmIts about saving desk space.Nov 06 11:59
MinceRor kernels that used to be sane before some megacorporations shat into it, anywayNov 06 11:59
MinceRoiaohm: chucking that piece of garbage out the window will save more desk spaceNov 06 12:00
oiaohmApple machine can be used to make a windows, android and osi ... application.Nov 06 12:00
MinceRyeah, just not wellNov 06 12:00
oiaohmDevelopers will now be wanting larger desks.Nov 06 12:00
MinceRmaybe they'll discover that some computers can be mounted on the back of the monitor and others can be put on the floorNov 06 12:01
MinceRthough i'm not quite sure why anyone calls such simpletons "developers"Nov 06 12:01
oiaohmMinceR: really some of the existing developers desks have thinclient on back of screen for business network.Nov 06 12:02
MinceRand they use only one screen?Nov 06 12:04
MinceRthis scenario sounds less and less realistic as it progressesNov 06 12:04
MinceRthough i haven't mentioned the best solution of all yetNov 06 12:05
MinceRstop supporting apple platformsNov 06 12:05
oiaohmMinceR: some business developer work spaces are absolutely horrible.Nov 06 12:07
MinceRno surpriseNov 06 12:07
MinceRthey can't help being horrible if they include apple productsNov 06 12:07
oiaohmWorst one I have seen the developers office was a converted broom cupboard.Nov 06 12:08
oiaohmBusiness who need developers to make custom software then since their work is not direct profit totally don't value them.Nov 06 12:08
MinceRtheir funeralNov 06 12:09
MinceRthere's demand for developers from businesses that do value themNov 06 12:09
oiaohmschestowitz: Please note some have managed to get Linux installed on those apple machines with the T2 chip.  Only one catch you cannot access the ssd drive and have to use external drive.   Probing the interal drive will cause the system to shutdown.Nov 06 12:10
MinceRlolNov 06 12:10
oiaohmschestowitz: basically ps2 all over again.Nov 06 12:10
oiaohmNoNov 06 12:10
oiaohmPlaystation 3 all over again.Nov 06 12:11
MinceRat least the PS3 was cheaperNov 06 12:11
oiaohmPlaystation 3 when the linux people worked ways around hardware feature sony removed the other os feature completely.Nov 06 12:12
cubexyzyou can't trust Sony in any caseNov 06 12:12
cubexyzit would be foolishNov 06 12:12
oiaohmBut this apple one is going very much the same route.Nov 06 12:12
MinceRand crApple will keep advertising their unusable uefi bricks as "computers"Nov 06 12:14
MinceRjust as they keep advertising their featurephones as "smartphones"Nov 06 12:14
MinceRand then the industry followsNov 06 12:14
MinceRand before you know it, you won't have any general purpose computers available anymoreNov 06 12:14
cubexyznahNov 06 12:14
MinceRold computers won't last foreverNov 06 12:14
oiaohmreally there will come a point where you will buy a server.Nov 06 12:15
MinceRand the technofascists may even corrupt governments into banning general purpose computers so their beloved failed business models get another chance to workNov 06 12:15
oiaohmYes a server to use as a desktop that has like linuxbios.Nov 06 12:15
cubexyzUniversity of Stuttgart has a working IBM 1130Nov 06 12:17
oiaohmYes this EFI signing one I kind of saw coming when Microsoft signing key for OS and Microsoft signing key for third parties was different.Nov 06 12:17
MinceRsameNov 06 12:18
cubexyzremember when PC clones first came out... someone clean-roomed the firmwareNov 06 12:19
MinceRwhen it turned out that somehow the industry, in its infinite wisdom, appointed microsoft as the gatekeeper of Restricted BootNov 06 12:19
MinceR(not to mention that the whole uefi shit coming from intel is full of microsoftisms like FAT and PE...)Nov 06 12:20
MinceRs/coming/allegedly &/Nov 06 12:20
cubexyzalso... let me tell you about the laser 128Nov 06 12:21
cubexyzI bet no one remembers thatNov 06 12:21
cubexyza legal clone of the Apple II Nov 06 12:22
cubexyzApple couldn't stop itNov 06 12:22
oiaohmMinceR: things had being going bad well before UEFI.Nov 06 12:24
oiaohmMinceR: ACPI tables comes to mind.Nov 06 12:24
cubexyzand I think FPGA computers avoid the UEFI problem yes?Nov 06 12:24
MinceRyesNov 06 12:24
oiaohmFPGA  you cannot get the performance.Nov 06 12:25
MinceRoften i won't need itNov 06 12:25
cubexyzhow does 600 mhz core clock speed sound?Nov 06 12:25
oiaohmAnd some FPGA chips make UEFI look friendly.Nov 06 12:25
MinceRat least one FPGA chip can be programmed using free softwareNov 06 12:26
oiaohmMinceR: It cannot be random FPGA chips.Nov 06 12:27
oiaohmhttps://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/programmable/us/en/pdfs/literature/wp/wp-01033.pdf  << This started in 2007.Nov 06 12:27
oiaohmIntel signed bios was kinda done first in FPGA>Nov 06 12:27
cubexyzI think you can replace UEFI in some cases with corebootNov 06 12:27
oiaohmSo unless what you want the FPGA to run is 1 signed 2 encrypted the FPGA is not going to use it.Nov 06 12:27
oiaohmIf it a horrible FPGA.Nov 06 12:28
cubexyzone just has to be very selective Nov 06 12:28
MinceRthat's some evil shitNov 06 12:28
oiaohmI like with uboot getting the UEFI specification modified to make a lot of mandorary things optional.Nov 06 12:31
oiaohmUEFI had having a real-time clock as mandatory.Nov 06 12:31
oiaohmNow what happens if your computer real-time clock goes stupid.Nov 06 12:32
MinceRthey also had keeping that RTC run on local time mandatoryNov 06 12:32
MinceRbecause microsoftNov 06 12:32
oiaohmWill UEFI say that all you signing keys are invaid and refuse to boot anything.Nov 06 12:32
MinceRit's stupid, so make it part of the standardNov 06 12:32
oiaohmRunning computer clocks on local time has always been paths to trouble with daylight savings.Nov 06 12:33
oiaohmMinceR: particularly when windows 10 still has RealTimeIsUniversalNov 06 12:37
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MinceR(audio) https://i.imgur.com/RI1MtEN.mp4Nov 06 18:25
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XRevan86Somewhere in Apple: also use this as a design mock-up: https://reinventionsreena.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/rainbow-puddle.jpgNov 06 22:11
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18010318Nov 06 22:27
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XRevan861. write prototypeNov 06 22:28
XRevan862. fix prototypeNov 06 22:28
XRevan863. improve prototypeNov 06 22:28
XRevan864. add to SCMNov 06 22:28
XRevan865. continue improvingNov 06 22:28
MinceRboringNov 06 22:29
XRevan86but trueNov 06 22:29
XRevan86Probably won't be acceptedNov 06 22:29
MinceRhttps://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/9unv5s/most_representative_country_flag_per_continent_oc/Nov 06 23:06
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cubexyzfolks, I assume everyone knows about apple's T2 security chip that blocks Linux?Nov 07 00:30
cubexyznot that I was going to buy Apple but stillNov 07 00:31
cubexyzmore UEFI bullshitNov 07 00:31
cubexyzmacos and win10 only... it's quite badNov 07 00:32
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cubexyzah... I guess everyone knows alreadyNov 07 01:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Leaving Windows Behind http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117183 #microsoft [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c5a8396-3d23-4252-8330-594da3e23c96]Nov 07 05:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux IoT Landscape: Distributions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117184 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec090eb8-8b8b-4a74-a489-3bae6a17c05e]Nov 07 05:38
DaemonFC[m]macos and win10 only... it's quite badNov 07 05:44
DaemonFC[m]By default, you can't install Windows on a new Mac.Nov 07 05:44
DaemonFC[m]You have to set up Boot Camp, which will put Microsoft's signing key for Windows into the key store.Nov 07 05:44
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DaemonFC[m]But not the Microsoft key that allows shim to load GRUB then Linux.Nov 07 05:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: HardenedBSD, BitLocker, Updates, Google Play, Ubuntu and Reproducible Builds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117187 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6e008118-227b-4158-8ca9-917e7c8311f0]Nov 07 06:26
cubexyzoiaohm, the clock on one of my computers is running slowNov 07 06:29
cubexyzvery oddNov 07 06:29
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cubexyzsomething about acpi_pmNov 07 06:30
cubexyzslackware uses tscNov 07 06:31
cubexyzhpet is the other optionNov 07 06:35
cubexyzor jiffiesNov 07 06:35
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 7/11/2018: Fifteen Years of Fedora, ReactOS 0.4.10 http://techrights.org/2018/11/07/fifteen-years-of-fedora/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d03a76b-97de-4e6b-9344-6e09862fc9a1]Nov 07 06:59
oiaohmcubexyz: jiffies is software.Nov 07 07:02
oiaohmcubexyz: I have on some old hardware had to push them to jiffies because the real-time clock is giving up ghost.Nov 07 07:03
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554847.jpgNov 07 07:53
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/v/557594.webmNov 07 08:04
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oiaohmhttps://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10s-first-paid-for-linux-based-distro-20-app-out-now-says-microsoft/  Could have seen this coming.Nov 07 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10's first paid-for, Linux-based distro: $20 app out now, says Microsoft - TechRepublicNov 07 15:31
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schestowitzoiaohm: second "E"Nov 07 16:59
schestowitzThey will offer some 'exclusive' things for 'their' LinuxNov 07 16:59
schestowitzwhile making it harder to boot anything elseNov 07 16:59
MinceR"Linux"Nov 07 17:00
MinceRcontains no actual LinuxNov 07 17:00
MinceRwhile ibm/rh/fsf is destroying what's left of gnu, to create a need for systemdNov 07 17:01
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oiaohmMinceR: you have to remember GNU has their sheperd project.Nov 07 17:22
MinceRyeah, i wonder when will that run into some ingenious idea like the one for hurdNov 07 17:23
MinceRif it hasn't alreadyNov 07 17:23
XRevan86MinceR: What do you mean?Nov 07 17:25
MinceRXRevan86: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.htmlNov 07 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemdNov 07 17:26
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schestowitzhmhmmmNov 07 18:03
schestowitzinteresting, MinceRNov 07 18:03
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DaemonFC[m]Porting systemd to Hurd?Nov 07 21:27
DaemonFC[m]Shouldn't they worry about making The Hurd work first?Nov 07 21:27
DaemonFC[m]The way I understand it, the design of the GNU Hurd is fundamentally flawed and almost nobody still works on it.Nov 07 21:27
DaemonFC[m]So it's probably never going to be ready for production usage.Nov 07 21:28
DaemonFC[m]I've read a few people actually using it on real hardware and that it's unstable and crashes quite often.Nov 07 21:28
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DaemonFC[m]"Who cares about non-Linux?"Nov 07 21:29
DaemonFC[m]"GNOME OS"Nov 07 21:29
DaemonFC[m]Well, that's effectively where things are headed in the GNU/Linux world, and a lot of that is an attack on the GNU project that they've been silent about. Nov 07 21:30
DaemonFC[m]They put people on the FSF's Board of Directors who have nothing good to say about the GPLv3 and consistently refer to Free Software only as "open source".Nov 07 21:31
DaemonFC[m]So if the FSF did stand for something, it's gone now.Nov 07 21:32
DaemonFC[m]"in the context of [how] IPC in Unix sucks"Nov 07 21:37
DaemonFC[m]Heh, well, it sort of does.Nov 07 21:37
DaemonFC[m]The DragonflyBSD kernel lightweight messaging system seems interesting.Nov 07 21:37
DaemonFC[m]I don't believe it's actually functional yet.Nov 07 21:39
MinceRhttp://www.doesnotplaywellwithothers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/pwc-03871.pngNov 07 21:59
MinceR07 222730 <+DaemonFC[m]> Shouldn't they worry about making The Hurd work first?Nov 07 22:00
MinceRapparently they want to make sure it will never workNov 07 22:00
MinceR07 222757 <+DaemonFC[m]> The way I understand it, the design of the GNU Hurd is fundamentally flawed and almost nobody still works on it.Nov 07 22:00
MinceRwhat's the flaw?Nov 07 22:00
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That the layout is a disaster and has created lots of instability issues that are hard to debug.Nov 07 22:12
MinceRwhat layout?Nov 07 22:14
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/557303.jpgNov 07 22:37
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/557334.pngNov 07 22:39
XRevan86MinceR: It doesn't work like that in non-urban societiesNov 07 22:40
MinceRhow does it work?Nov 07 22:40
XRevan86MinceR: Spawning an extra pair of handsNov 07 22:40
MinceRout of nothing?Nov 07 22:41
XRevan86A new person in the family can help with workNov 07 22:42
XRevan86Seeds to plant, weed to rip out, vodka to drinkNov 07 22:42
MinceRspawning a new person requires extra food and waterNov 07 22:43
MinceRraising it to the point where it can do work requires even moreNov 07 22:43
XRevan86MinceR: It's a long-term'ish investmentNov 07 22:44
MinceRit also has an ecological footprintNov 07 22:44
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, those people often think about thatNov 07 22:44
MinceRso yeah, it's a long-termish investment into famine, epidemics, wars and extinctionsNov 07 22:44
MinceRpeople usually don't thinkNov 07 22:44
MinceRthat's the problemNov 07 22:45
MinceRalso, some peopl demand/promote handouts for reproductionNov 07 22:45
MinceRs/pl/ple/Nov 07 22:45
XRevan86MinceR: You cannot expect that kind of thinking from people who struggle to survive as they areNov 07 22:46
abeNd-org1most people barely make it to the end of the day, they have no capacity for future planning. Sure, that might be the reason they are there in the first placeNov 07 22:47
MinceRXRevan86: i don'tNov 07 22:47
MinceRi expect the human species to exterminate itself and take a lot of other species with itNov 07 22:47
MinceRstill, they go around claiming to be "intelligent" and "civilized"Nov 07 22:47
abeNd-org1they are doing the extermination of other species bit pretty well so farNov 07 22:48
abeNd-org1most people won't even take care of themselves properly, much less others or the worldNov 07 22:49
abeNd-org1don't smoke? well F*** you! I'll smoke as much as I want!.......Nov 07 22:49
abeNd-org1eat healty? "Ill eat as much meat as I want, you go screw off, i like the taste of bacon"Nov 07 22:50
abeNd-org1so you can't expect most people to "plan for the future" when their current plan is "fuck themselves up as much as possible & take as many with them as they can, even if they don't realize that is the plan they have"Nov 07 22:51
XRevan86abeNd-org1: The "civilised" folk are more luxurious in how they can screw themselves over thoughNov 07 22:57
XRevan86But in the end it just means that neither will really "plan for the future"Nov 07 22:59
XRevan86Too abstract for me though :-). Good night.Nov 07 22:59
MinceRo/Nov 07 23:01
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/557195.gifNov 07 23:03
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DaemonFC[m]also, some peopl demand/promote handouts for reproductionNov 07 23:19
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but every politician offers more shit to people who have kids.Nov 07 23:19
DaemonFC[m]What do you do?Nov 07 23:19
MinceRwhat can i do?Nov 07 23:19
MinceRi don't have an army.Nov 07 23:19
cubexyzactually the family allowance in Canada is now targeted at middle and lower income familiesNov 07 23:45
cubexyzso if you make a lot you don't qualifyNov 07 23:45
cubexyzthe government did try to make it sensible Nov 07 23:47
cubexyzI assume other countries have similar rulesNov 07 23:48
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DaemonFC[m]It's a flat credit regardless of income in the US, at least at the federal income tax level.Nov 08 01:21
DaemonFC[m]Although, if you are very poor, you qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, which can give you a certain amount of money back per dependent, and even result in a refund of more than you paid in taxes that year.Nov 08 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Many states have an EIC on their income tax as well.Nov 08 01:22
DaemonFC[m]In most cases, the state worksheet says if you qualify for the federal one, you qualify for theirs too.Nov 08 01:22
DaemonFC[m]The federal one requires that you be 25 years old, among some other things.Nov 08 01:22
DaemonFC[m]You can get a small earned income credit without kids, but it's really meant for people who are very poor who have kids.Nov 08 01:23
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-Mutter-MesonNov 08 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME's Mutter Finally Gets Meson Build System Support, Other Cleanups - PhoronixNov 08 01:41
DaemonFC[m]I'd like to see them make Mutter spread the workload out better on multicore systems.Nov 08 01:41
DaemonFC[m]It seems to run on one core and hammer that one core sometimes.Nov 08 01:42
DaemonFC[m]If it could offload some things to a different process or thread, then it wouldn't peg a single core as much.Nov 08 01:42
DaemonFC[m]That appears to be one of the critical design flaws of GNOME 3.Nov 08 01:42
cubexyzwhen did gnome3 first appear?Nov 08 02:30
cubexyzI don't think I have it on anythingNov 08 02:30
cubexyz2011 or soNov 08 02:31
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: writing multi threaded code is not easy.Nov 08 02:35
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MinceR08 004748 <+cubexyz> the government did try to make it sensible Nov 08 07:00
MinceRit's impossible to make paying people to reproduce sensible when there are over 7 billion people on the only planet people can accessNov 08 07:01
XRevan86https://pleroma.site/objects/47b21494-3ca1-4363-b0e9-e8708df25a5c sputnik news?Nov 08 07:46
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schestowitzXRevan86: they emailed me two days ago BTWNov 08 09:05
schestowitzI did not replyNov 08 09:05
schestowitzAFAIK, they are srate-connected like RTNov 08 09:06
schestowitzThey wanted me to be a 'guest'Nov 08 09:06
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes, they are.Nov 08 09:06
XRevan86Why referencing them?Nov 08 09:06
schestowitzthis particular one connects to anotherNov 08 09:06
schestowitzSomething on YouTubeNov 08 09:06
schestowitzsome small site that spoke to HRC IIRCNov 08 09:07
schestowitzAnd they hinted she might run againNov 08 09:07
schestowitzI did't see other sites covering thiNov 08 09:07
schestowitz*thisNov 08 09:07
XRevan86> Hillary Clinton told US tech magazine Recode that she wants to be PresidentNov 08 09:10
MinceRwill they cheat at their primaries again?Nov 08 09:10
XRevan86https://recode.net/2018/10/27/18032550 found the sourceNov 08 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.recode.net | Hillary Clinton talks with Kara Swisher on Recode Decode podcast - full Q&A transcript - RecodeNov 08 09:10
schestowitzXRevan86: yeah, RecodeNov 08 09:10
schestowitzThen I saw a video about itNov 08 09:10
schestowitzBut not an articleNov 08 09:10
schestowitzKara Swisher LOLNov 08 09:11
schestowitzNo comment neededNov 08 09:11
XRevan86xxx: We’re going to talk about 2020 in a minute. Do you want to run again?Nov 08 09:11
XRevan86yyy: No. No.Nov 08 09:11
XRevan86xxx: That was a pause...Nov 08 09:11
XRevan86yyy: Well I’d like to be president. I think, hopefully, when we have a Democrat in the Oval Office in January of 2021, there’s going to be so much work to be done. <..>Nov 08 09:11
XRevan86So that's a "no"?Nov 08 09:11
XRevan86Cannot find a mention of that in the Sputnik News articleNov 08 09:13
schestowitzAhaNov 08 09:15
schestowitzGood spot thereNov 08 09:15
schestowitzSo maybe it has been distorted somewhat by the anti-HRC crowdNov 08 09:15
schestowitzThey should run with Larry LessigNov 08 09:15
schestowitzhe would be awesomeNov 08 09:15
XRevan86Oh, the Creative Commons founderNov 08 09:16
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig#2016_presidential_candidacyNov 08 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lawrence Lessig - WikipediaNov 08 09:17
XRevan86schestowitz: I think after the current Trump's presidency any DNC candidate would win, including Hillary.Nov 08 09:21
XRevan86So it made sense to me that she would've tried again. But apparently the ЦК has other plans.Nov 08 09:22
XRevan86> They wanted me to be a 'guest'Nov 08 09:28
XRevan86video?Nov 08 09:28
XRevan86> srate-connectedNov 08 10:28
XRevan86BTW, in Russian there's a vulgar verb srati that means to defecateNov 08 10:28
XRevan86just sayin' ;)Nov 08 10:29
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I think after the current Trump's presidency any DNC candidate would win, including Hillary.Nov 08 15:36
DaemonFC[m]It won't be Hillary.Nov 08 15:36
XRevan86bad quoting :)Nov 08 15:36
DaemonFC[m]I think they'll try to pick a consensus candidate without too much baggage. Nov 08 15:37
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/oGRtS0d.jpgNov 08 15:37
DaemonFC[m]Try to prevent the Democrats from staying home again because it wasn't Bernie Sanders. Nov 08 15:37
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I was saying that after reading that she said "no"Nov 08 15:37
DaemonFC[m]People like Richard Stallman are the reason Trump won the election.Nov 08 15:37
MinceRi hope they won't risk hillarious againNov 08 15:37
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: people who used to support free software but got paid by rh so they support cancerd and vendor lock-in?Nov 08 15:38
DaemonFC[m]Kyrsten Sinema would have won the Senate race in Arizona this year had it not been for the Green Party.Nov 08 15:38
DaemonFC[m]The Green Party candidate got about 40,000 votes and the Republican won by about half that.Nov 08 15:38
MinceRyeah, it's the green party's fault, not the fucked up election system's faultNov 08 15:38
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I prefer to think that this vicious cycle of two corrupt parties can go on indefinitely as long as the people are complicitNov 08 15:39
DaemonFC[m]If only half the Green Party's votes went to Sinema, we'd have the Democrat and the first and only openly non-religious person in the Senate.Nov 08 15:39
MinceRdnc cheating at their own primaries so they could nominate an unpopular candidate also had nothing to do with itNov 08 15:39
DaemonFC[m]We cn't make any progress because the "Herbal Tea Party" is over there, they can't win.Nov 08 15:39
DaemonFC[m]All they can do is screw things up even more by being on the ballot in a two party system.Nov 08 15:40
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: If only the US had a system where votes can be given by a loser to someone else.Nov 08 15:40
MinceRor preferential votingNov 08 15:40
XRevan86that way it would've been safer to vote non-twinNov 08 15:40
DaemonFC[m]There was a report that a lot of Jill Stein's money might have come from the Russian government.Nov 08 15:40
XRevan86a non-twin would simply delegate their votes to the better twinNov 08 15:40
DaemonFC[m]They slipped it to her as a bunch of small dollar contributions.Nov 08 15:40
DaemonFC[m]Maine actually has order of preference now.Nov 08 15:41
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Why would we^W they^W Russia care?Nov 08 15:41
MinceRso that their puppet, DHA Hitler, could be POTUSNov 08 15:41
DaemonFC[m]Well, it helps Trump and his people get in and have more power.Nov 08 15:41
XRevan86MinceR: To steal votes from Hillary?Nov 08 15:41
DaemonFC[m]It fucks up our government to the point where it can't even function at all.Nov 08 15:41
XRevan86> Maine actually has order of preference now.Nov 08 15:42
MinceRi'd prefer a government that doesn't function to what i haveNov 08 15:42
MinceR(or to what the usa has)Nov 08 15:42
XRevan86Also federal elections should be under one bloody federal lawNov 08 15:42
DaemonFC[m]The states have had to make do with a federal government that isn't doing its job to help people.Nov 08 15:42
DaemonFC[m]A bunch of progressive ballot measures have managed to right a lot of wrongs in the states where they have passed.Nov 08 15:42
XRevan86otherwise only the most recognised candidates by every state can get inNov 08 15:43
XRevan86and it's always only the twinsNov 08 15:43
DaemonFC[m]The minimum wage was forced upwards by several dollars an hour in Arkansas and Missouri this year.Nov 08 15:43
DaemonFC[m]Affecting 900,000 workers.Nov 08 15:43
DaemonFC[m]Medicaid expansion was forced in on three red states where the government wasn't going to do it. 300,000 more people will have Medicaid next year because of that.Nov 08 15:43
DaemonFC[m]It's all happening in the states, even in ones where you wouldn't expect it.Nov 08 15:44
DaemonFC[m]Michigan forced in automatic voter registration and legal marijuana and Michigan and two other states took away redistricting from their legislatures.Nov 08 15:44
DaemonFC[m]Florida voters restored voting rights to 1.5 million people.Nov 08 15:44
DaemonFC[m]Trump is going to have a much harder time in 2020 and so will Republicans in general.Nov 08 15:45
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DaemonFC[m]Well, because millions of people will either have access to voting for the first time or will be automatically registered so they can if they want, and there's not much Trump can do about it.Nov 08 15:45
DaemonFC[m]It's much bigger than his margins in those states were last time, and he's already much less popular now than he was then.Nov 08 15:46
DaemonFC[m]The people are sick of gerrymandering and so it's being done away with in many large and important statees. Nov 08 15:47
DaemonFC[m]otherwise only the most recognised candidates by every state can get inNov 08 15:47
DaemonFC[m]Well, the Democrats didn't take over the House by running people like the Greens.Nov 08 15:47
DaemonFC[m]If you look, a few people who won on Tuesday night were pretty progressive, but a lot of them played to the center and won moderate suburban districts that had previously been Safe Republican.Nov 08 15:48
DaemonFC[m]But it's important to get them into Congress anyway because they're going to vote to take control of the chamber and the Republicans won't be in charge. It's the first effective opposition to Trump on the federal level in two years.Nov 08 15:49
DaemonFC[m]Just having a House majority that will not rubber stamp his bills. I mean, if the Republicans had won, there goes health care, there go a lot of things.Nov 08 15:49
DaemonFC[m]And the ACA sucks, but what we had before sucked a lot more.Nov 08 15:50
DaemonFC[m]Trump and Paul Ryan tried to ram through a hybrid system that takes the worst of both.Nov 08 15:50
DaemonFC[m]Right? You can buy an insurance policy but it might cost you $6,000 a month.Nov 08 15:51
DaemonFC[m]So, everyone would have access to insurance in the same way that everyone has access to a $100,000 car. Nov 08 15:51
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DaemonFC[m] JB Pritzker plans to expand Medicaid into a public option in Illinois called Illinois Cares. You can use your ACA subsidy towards it even if you make more than 133% of the federal poverty line, or you can buy into it by paying the full amount of the premium yourself. Nov 08 15:55
DaemonFC[m] The idea is that Illinois Cares will be revenue/tax neutral, as the "premiums" are the average cost to the state of having someone on Medicaid. It could end up costing the state some money, but it won't be aNov 08 15:58
DaemonFC[m] major cost item and we can probably get health insurance out to a couple hundred thousand more people who are falling into the cracks now.Nov 08 15:58
abeNd-orgyes, and I think people should be fined for being willingly unhealthyNov 08 15:59
abeNd-orgare you 350lbs? is there a medical reason you are that weight? no? ok, great, here is a fine every month until you shed that fatNov 08 15:59
abeNd-orgsmoke? yea, sorry, no medical reason for smoking, here is a monthly fineNov 08 16:00
abeNd-orgwhy should my paycheck pay for their mistakes?Nov 08 16:00
DaemonFC[m]Well, we did have the individual mandate administered by the IRS, but Trump's tax bill reset the fine to $0.Nov 08 16:00
DaemonFC[m]So some people will certainly drop their insurance because there's no longer a fine for not having it.Nov 08 16:00
abeNd-orgactually, sorry, not mistakes, their willing self destructionNov 08 16:00
DaemonFC[m]Well, the part they can't repeal is the part that lets insurance companies charge 50% more to smokers.Nov 08 16:00
abeNd-orghonestly, it should be higher than thatNov 08 16:00
DaemonFC[m]But there's now nothing stopping them from waiting until they have lung cancer to get insurance.Nov 08 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's a fucked up system. :/Nov 08 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Smoke yourself onto Disability and then bleed the system dry.Nov 08 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Fucking cigarettes.Nov 08 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Chicago has a Tobacco 21 ordinance and very high cigarette taxes. I'm hoping that Pritzker finally signs Tobacco 21 into law in Illinois.Nov 08 16:02
abeNd-orgthere is no medical need for someone to smoke cigarettesNov 08 16:02
DaemonFC[m]That would raise the age to uy cigarettes to 21 for another 6 million people who live outside Cook County.Nov 08 16:02
DaemonFC[m]No, there's not, and Tobacco 21 is reducing teen smoking rates. It's having an effect.Nov 08 16:03
DaemonFC[m]It's undermined by states like Indiana where the age is 18 and they're right next to us and $6 a pack, but we still have to do something.Nov 08 16:03
abeNd-orgI lost my mother to lung cancer & a lifetime of cigarette smoking, she would still be around had she not smokedNov 08 16:03
abeNd-orgjust start saying smoking is for old people, teens will see it as uncool & stop lolNov 08 16:04
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MinceRor end centralized health insurance if it's such a problemNov 08 16:04
abeNd-orgend sales of cigarettes? ok, im behind thatNov 08 16:05
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MinceRwon't workNov 08 16:07
MinceRsee drug war and prohibitionNov 08 16:07
abeNd-orgyes, never underestimate the human capacity to destroy themselves on purposeNov 08 16:08
abeNd-orgknowingly & willingly, spending a lot of money along the way doing it, of their own & the health care system'sNov 08 16:10
XRevan86MinceR: Dramatic measures often don't work with things like thatNov 08 16:16
XRevan86because kids are drawn by the percieved romance of smokingNov 08 16:16
XRevan86* perceivedNov 08 16:17
XRevan86and drama only fuels thatNov 08 16:17
abeNd-orgok, will im good with raising the cost & taxesNov 08 16:17
abeNd-orgif those somehow get funneled back into covering healthcare for those self destructive peopleNov 08 16:17
XRevan86abeNd-org: Russia has extensive taxing on vodkaNov 08 16:18
XRevan86not sure if it actually works thoughNov 08 16:18
MinceRyeah, give the government more moneyNov 08 16:19
MinceRthey spend what they already get so wisely, after allNov 08 16:19
abeNd-orgwell yes, thats assuming it makes it to where it should goNov 08 16:19
XRevan86MinceR: The Russian government is notoriously very good with money :DNov 08 16:19
XRevan86which usually end up somewhere in France or ItalyNov 08 16:20
MinceRi propose abeNd-org donate all his money to the governmentNov 08 16:20
abeNd-orgMinceR: i dont have enough for the govt to care hahaNov 08 16:21
XRevan86MinceR: It's called "taxes"Nov 08 16:21
abeNd-orgbut i dont buy cigs, so that additional tax money wouldnt be coming out of my pocket anywaysNov 08 16:21
abeNd-orgsame with people willingly weighing 3 times what a normal human should & doing nothing about it other than draining healthcare systems around the worldNov 08 16:22
XRevan86abeNd-org: That's a more complicated topicNov 08 16:23
abeNd-orgfatties?Nov 08 16:23
abeNd-orgno, its easyNov 08 16:23
XRevan86abeNd-org: yesNov 08 16:23
abeNd-orgMOVENov 08 16:23
abeNd-orgstop being fatNov 08 16:23
abeNd-orgfatties are not complicatedNov 08 16:23
XRevan86Unfortunately I don't know much about this topicNov 08 16:24
MinceRyou can move and stay fatNov 08 16:24
MinceRit also depends on dietNov 08 16:24
abeNd-orgim 20kg overweight, im addressing it without costing other people money. I let myself get this far out of shape, but im not whining & crying & expecting the govt to take care of meNov 08 16:24
abeNd-orgyes, you cant outrun a poor dietNov 08 16:25
MinceRi thought you said you wanted to tax overweight people extraNov 08 16:25
abeNd-orgcookies & soda are not healthfood. yes, oreos are actually vegan, but that does not make them healthyNov 08 16:25
abeNd-orgsure, im fine with that, its an incentive to get healthyNov 08 16:25
abeNd-orgshed those extra people you are carryingNov 08 16:25
XRevan86abeNd-org: Try to eat less sugary stuff, I supposeNov 08 16:26
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XRevan86abeNd-org: I suppose by soda you mean pop drinks like PepsiNov 08 16:26
MinceRi'd gladly shed those extra people i'm carryingNov 08 16:26
MinceRproblem is, they'd just take my money by forceNov 08 16:26
XRevan86abeNd-org: Those are usually very-very sugaryNov 08 16:26
MinceRXRevan86: even Pepsi Max? :>Nov 08 16:26
DaemonFC[m]Russian life expectancy is still quite low. Never recovered after the Soviet Union collapsed.Nov 08 16:26
abeNd-orgXRevan86: yes, i used to drink one of those a day, ive managed to cut back to one a week, trying to cut it out completelyNov 08 16:27
DaemonFC[m]I suspect it's mostly from cigarettes and vodka, but that's me.Nov 08 16:27
abeNd-orgi fully accept I am the reason i am fat & unhealthy, but I am also doing something about it nowNov 08 16:27
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: are you sure it's not because they had to let go of a lot of less shitty countries and their contributions to the statistics? :>Nov 08 16:27
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: No, because the stats only compare Russians before and after.Nov 08 16:28
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Life expectancy is indeed quite lowNov 08 16:28
MinceRsure, russians used to call themselves "councils" :>Nov 08 16:29
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Ecology is also a factorNov 08 16:29
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the cigarettes and alcohol take their toll though. Mom's ex husband smoke and drank his entire life and finally died of a heart attack at 58.Nov 08 16:29
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Amusing that some actors called Russia a very ecologically-aware country and thanked Putin for thatNov 08 16:29
DaemonFC[m]I suspect he probably fell 20 years short because of what he did to himself.Nov 08 16:29
DaemonFC[m]On state television? :)Nov 08 16:30
MinceRlolNov 08 16:30
MinceRXRevan86: russian actors?Nov 08 16:30
XRevan86MinceR: No, HollywoodNov 08 16:30
XRevan86but I forgot whoNov 08 16:30
DaemonFC[m]That's not surprising either.Nov 08 16:30
MinceRtoo many manchurian candidates in the usaNov 08 16:30
DaemonFC[m]Hollywood is full of freaks and weirdos.Nov 08 16:30
MinceRdoes Cheeto Hitler count as an "actor"? :>Nov 08 16:30
XRevan86Anyway, point is that ecology is under the same negligence umbrella as everything elseNov 08 16:31
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Well, he did tell the kid in Home Alone where the hotel lobby was.Nov 08 16:31
MinceRyeahNov 08 16:32
XRevan86Medical waste is being illegally burnt right outside of St. PetersburgNov 08 16:32
abeNd-orgthat doesnt sound horrible to the environment at allNov 08 16:32
abeNd-orgsome nice stuff leaking into the water supply tooNov 08 16:33
XRevan86Baikal is being drained because China wants nice cool waterNov 08 16:33
XRevan86forests are being cut downNov 08 16:34
XRevan86Mysterious fogs over citiesNov 08 16:34
XRevan86Orange acid rainNov 08 16:34
XRevan86that makes iron instantly go rustNov 08 16:34
MinceRniceNov 08 16:35
XRevan86Annual turf fires near MoscowNov 08 16:36
MinceRgood fit for Agent Orange, orban and the RSSNov 08 16:36
abeNd-orghumanity destroying itself for profit woot!Nov 08 16:37
XRevan86Another side is retired people being basically screwed if they don't or can't workNov 08 16:37
XRevan86Homeless people on a state pension? In my country? It's more likely than you think.Nov 08 16:38
XRevan86WW2 veterans living in huts? Why the heck not.Nov 08 16:38
abeNd-orgright right, but a 27yr old sitting hit fat ass at home coming in at 3 times more than he should eating chips & drinking soda all day while on welfare? yeah, i should have to keep paying him to do that? how is that logical? his fatass needs to be in the work force doing something, & shedding those tons, stop costing me moneyNov 08 16:39
XRevan86Local hospitals are being optimised out of existence. Millions of rubles spent of course.Nov 08 16:40
MinceRhumans are being optimized out of existenceNov 08 16:41
XRevan86abeNd-org: Maybe he/she draws furries on deviantart in time stillNov 08 16:42
XRevan86still more useful to society than some high paying jobs (:Nov 08 16:42
XRevan86* in that timeNov 08 16:43
abeNd-orgXRevan86: that was out of left field, but no, i doubt they are doing anything useful to contribute to society Nov 08 16:43
XRevan86abeNd-org: They have to be doing something thoughNov 08 16:43
abeNd-orgeating/drinking/playing video gamesNov 08 16:43
abeNd-orgprobably drugsNov 08 16:44
XRevan86abeNd-org: How do they get welfare?Nov 08 16:44
abeNd-orgthey must, how else are they affording that huge TV & all the junk food if not on assistance since they don't work?Nov 08 16:45
XRevan86abeNd-org: Rich parentsNov 08 16:46
XRevan86?Nov 08 16:46
abeNd-orgmaybe I just have 0 faiths given when it comes to humanityNov 08 16:46
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abeNd-orgsure there are some people on welfare because they need it, but most just abuse the systemNov 08 16:47
XRevan86I am definitely not familiar with this kind of system :)Nov 08 16:47
abeNd-orgXRevan86: the mess that is the US loves to give money away to those who don't deserve itNov 08 16:48
XRevan86In Russia when someone abuses the welfare system, it's probably through connections in the governmentNov 08 16:48
XRevan86to get a little bonusNov 08 16:48
XRevan86abeNd-org: The US is famous for that, indeed.Nov 08 16:49
XRevan86and for screwing people tooNov 08 16:50
XRevan86how do they manage to combine these two qualities?Nov 08 16:50
abeNd-orgusually with incompetence Nov 08 16:53
abeNd-orgmix a little greed in there tooNov 08 16:53
XRevan86I am familiar with that :)Nov 08 16:55
abeNd-orgthat is universal with politicians worldwide, doesnt matter language, border, faithNov 08 16:56
abeNd-orgits probably why govts "hate" each other so much, the leaders all remind each other too much of one anotherNov 08 16:56
abeNd-orgthe average citizen could give a rats tail. I'd rather be friends with some other average citizen from Iran or N.korea rather than lob a bomb at themNov 08 16:57
abeNd-organd im sure, minus the brain washed folks, their average citizens feel the sameNov 08 16:57
XRevan86https://twitter.com/golydovolen/status/1060536522150051842 hm, I wonder what's the context %)Nov 08 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GolyDovolen: Выйдите из автомобиля, я Вас требую! Я хочу защитить Вас от бИндеровцев! Хочу защитить Вас от НАТО! Если не я буду… https://t.co/oAbDf1pQ5WNov 08 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@GolyDovolen: Выйдите из автомобиля, я Вас требую! Я хочу защитить Вас от бИндеровцев! Хочу защитить Вас от НАТО! Если не я буду… https://t.co/oAbDf1pQ5WNov 08 16:58
MinceRi suspect there are a lot more brainwashed folks than you thinkNov 08 17:01
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abeNd-orgMinceR: you are probably rightNov 08 17:04
abeNd-orgeven with racism here in the states it is just beat into some people so much for so longNov 08 17:04
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MinceRthe hungarian government's hysteria campaign against refugees was also scary effectiveNov 08 17:05
abeNd-orgi was just minding my own business at an intersection when a guy started kicking my car screaming at me that i was a racist. never saw the person beforeNov 08 17:05
XRevan86abeNd-org: I've heard that neighbourhoods in the US are still racially colouredNov 08 17:05
XRevan86no wonder that racism is still a thingNov 08 17:05
XRevan86soft segregation still affects mentalityNov 08 17:06
abeNd-orgwell, there is part truth to that, you cram a huge new population of people into your country that 1) dont want to be there 2) traumatized 3) refuse to integrate into the host country with language or traditions - then yes, that is not a group of people I would want in my country eitherNov 08 17:06
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abeNd-orgXRevan86: yes, there are no "whites only" signs (not that I know of anyways), but you can drive through different parts of town and you can tell who is living where, usually groups of like people together & not wanting others to move inNov 08 17:07
abeNd-orgbut then with apartment complexes like where I am at, you can see anyone & everyone from whatever background out walking their dogs in the morningNov 08 17:08
abeNd-organd not a friggin one of them will curb their dogs....disgusting, but that is a different rant :DNov 08 17:09
XRevan86abeNd-org: I suspect that there's a direct correlation in the US between urbanisation and a decline in racial… sensitivity.Nov 08 17:09
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XRevan86exactly because in apartment blocks people are exposed to all kind of peopleNov 08 17:11
XRevan86kindsNov 08 17:11
abeNd-orgi was born & raised in a very tiny town that was "whitewashed", currently I reside in a large urban center that is a mix of just about everything worldwide. I have no feelings of racism, no reason to "hate" someone I don't even know. It doesnt make sense to me, its not logical at all, to hate a person you dont even know just based on skin or whatever other stupid reason Nov 08 17:12
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XRevan86abeNd-org: "whitewashed"?Nov 08 17:12
abeNd-orgmeaning the small town was all white peopleNov 08 17:14
XRevan86abeNd-org: Ah, I read it as if some disaster happened there in the past :)Nov 08 17:14
XRevan86what I don't get about white supremacistsNov 08 17:15
abeNd-orgah, no, thats just a euphemismNov 08 17:15
XRevan86is why do they tolerate Trump who isn't white but orangeNov 08 17:15
MinceRthey're too stupid to be consistentNov 08 17:17
abeNd-orgfunny you say that, i was flipping between some of the different stations, & he is different colors depending on if it is abc/nbc/cbs/cnn/fox/etc, its like they use a filter on him to make it worse or betterNov 08 17:17
XRevan86abeNd-org: That wouldn't be too much surprisingNov 08 17:18
MinceRhe may also apply different amounts of DHA differently each dayNov 08 17:19
XRevan86I still think he looks a lot like YanukovichNov 08 17:20
MinceRor each session, i don't know how long it lastsNov 08 17:20
MinceRinb4 dump is really just yanukovich with a fake tanNov 08 17:20
XRevan86https://www.pulseheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Sarcastic-Trump-1.jpg https://sharij.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/0e54e0ff6ef416d94c6f5d19fb1e8411.jpgNov 08 17:21
MinceRCheeto Hitler has a much crazier expression thereNov 08 17:22
XRevan86http://ipress.ua/media/gallery/full/z/o/zoloto_mejygirya.jpg – one of the things Yanukovich is remembered byNov 08 17:23
MinceRwhat's that?Nov 08 17:23
XRevan86MinceR: a golden loafNov 08 17:24
MinceRlolNov 08 17:24
XRevan86https://youtu.be/e-vsYQ-mqgY he also turned into a meme with this one wordNov 08 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Янукович - Остановитесь ! Можно смотреть вечно - YouTubeNov 08 17:26
XRevan86"stop [what you're doing]"Nov 08 17:27
XRevan86after and about the EuromaidanNov 08 17:28
XRevan86https://ru1.anyfad.com/items/t1@a2d5af5d-f72d-493e-924b-7626ffe20d66/Zolotoy-unitaz-Yanukovicha.jpgNov 08 17:30
XRevan86a complement to the golden loafNov 08 17:30
MinceRgolden toilet?Nov 08 17:30
XRevan86MinceR: yesNov 08 17:30
MinceRapparently he had ambitions of becoming the God-Emperor of MankindNov 08 17:31
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezhyhirya_ResidenceNov 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mezhyhirya Residence - WikipediaNov 08 17:32
XRevan86It's now a museum %)Nov 08 17:32
XRevan86MinceR: Why would the God-Emperor of Mankind need a golden loaf?Nov 08 17:34
MinceRhe needs a golden toiletNov 08 17:35
MinceRhe's the Dead Guy on his Golden ToiletNov 08 17:35
MinceRs/on his/On His/Nov 08 17:38
XRevan86He's not technically deadNov 08 17:38
XRevan86just politically deadNov 08 17:38
MinceRsure :>Nov 08 17:38
MinceRoh, you mean yanukovych?Nov 08 17:39
XRevan86and with charges on his headNov 08 17:39
MinceRhe will be, eventuallyNov 08 17:39
XRevan86MinceR: But the Toilet is no longer in his possession %)Nov 08 17:39
MinceRhe failed his own ambitions, thenNov 08 17:40
XRevan86that is trueNov 08 17:40
DaemonFC[m]i was born & raised in a very tiny town that was "whitewashed", currently I reside in a large urban center that is a mix of just about everything worldwide. I have no feelings of racism, no reason to "hate" someone I don't even know. It doesnt make sense to me, its not logical at all, to hate a person you dont even know just based on skin or whatever other stupid reason Nov 08 17:56
DaemonFC[m]It's kind of hard when you live in Chicago and have to deal with all of the gang violence.Nov 08 17:56
XRevan86https://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics4/20090925/gopniki_01.jpg those darn gangsNov 08 17:57
DaemonFC[m]Medical waste is being illegally burnt right outside of St. PetersburgNov 08 17:57
DaemonFC[m]Parkview Randallia hospital in Fort Wayne, Indiana was doing this until the EPA came in and ordered them to stop using the incinerator. Then the medical waste just started piling up in the abandoned sections of the hospital.Nov 08 17:57
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: A similiar thing happened, except they just ignored the orderNov 08 17:58
XRevan86because the business owner has some shady connectionsNov 08 17:59
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Also note that the Russian hospital in question is state-ownedNov 08 17:59
XRevan86Oh, and it's an infectious diseases Hospital :)Nov 08 18:00
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DaemonFC[m]Oh, and it's an infectious diseases Hospital :)Nov 08 19:32
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's all stuff in bio bags that's piling up at Randallia. Nov 08 19:32
DaemonFC[m]I don't know what they worked out to get rid of it since the feds shut their incinerator down.Nov 08 19:32
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DaemonFC[m]Most of the hospital was abandoned after they opened Parkview Regional Medical Center. Nov 08 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Randallia was kept around mainly because they needed an ER in downtown Fort Wayne.Nov 08 19:34
DaemonFC[m]The creepy abandoned hospital areas are where homeless people end up sleeping and doctors and nurses go up there to fuck.Nov 08 19:34
DaemonFC[m]I hear that they're remodeling it though. They ended up underestimating the need for a full service hospital downtown.Nov 08 19:35
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556946.jpgNov 08 20:50
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18010313Nov 08 20:54
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1801022Nov 08 21:19
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MinceRhttps://pics.me.me/hey-its-g00d-to-see-you-i-thought-you-gave-29813971.pngNov 08 22:03
XRevan86Typical C&HNov 08 22:04
MinceRyeah, but i couldn't find it on explosm.netNov 08 22:06
XRevan86https://explosm.net/comics/4795/Nov 08 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)Nov 08 22:10
MinceRniceNov 08 22:11
MinceRhow did you find it?Nov 08 22:12
*XRevan86 checked the timestamp and then looked for comics issued in the same month.Nov 08 22:12
XRevan86luckily there are thumbnailsNov 08 22:12
XRevan86https://files.explosm.net/thumbs/comics/small-4795.png yes, this was enough for me :)Nov 08 22:13
MinceR:)Nov 08 22:14
MinceRand where did you find the timestamp?Nov 08 22:15
cubexyzactually I do care about non-linuxNov 08 22:15
XRevan86MinceR: Firefox told meNov 08 22:15
cubexyzit would be foolish not to consider other OSesNov 08 22:15
XRevan86MinceR: curl -I 'https://pics.me.me/hey-its-g00d-to-see-you-i-thought-you-gave-29813971.png' | grep -i '^last-modified: 'Nov 08 22:17
XRevan86MinceR: So, basically, it's in the HTTP headersNov 08 22:19
XRevan86Uploaded at the end of December 2017Nov 08 22:19
MinceRicNov 08 22:20
MinceRthanksNov 08 22:20
cubexyzof course I also care about linuxNov 08 22:24
cubexyzIBM DMS, RT-11FB, 4.3BSD, Minix, MenuetOS, Plan 9, Haiku are just a few of the ones I've looked atNov 08 22:25
XRevan86Is MenuetOS still developed?Nov 08 22:26
XRevan86I thought it's pretty much superseded by its fork, KolibriOSNov 08 22:26
XRevan86Not that either is worth anything outside of being a POCNov 08 22:26
cubexyzversion M64 1.28.80 released on 26.08.2018Nov 08 22:26
XRevan86An OS written in x86 ASM cannot be even remotely seriousNov 08 22:27
MinceRPoC > PoSNov 08 22:27
XRevan86MinceR: Point of Sale?Nov 08 22:28
MinceRPiece of ShitNov 08 22:28
XRevan86The concept proven is that an OS with a GUI can be successfully written completely in x86 ASMNov 08 22:28
XRevan86cubexyz: Have you tried Genode? :)Nov 08 22:29
cubexyznopeNov 08 22:29
XRevan86https://genode.org/download/sculptNov 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-genode.org | Genode - Sculpt OSNov 08 22:30
cubexyzthere are other considerations as I have a strong preservation instinctNov 08 22:30
XRevan86This is a microkernel-based FOSS OSNov 08 22:31
cubexyzso old commodore 64, amiga, IBM mainframe, IBM 1130, etcNov 08 22:31
XRevan86which I've never actually tried :)Nov 08 22:31
XRevan86but apparently it worksNov 08 22:31
cubexyzI wrote a lot of 6502 assembly language which I'd rather not loseNov 08 22:31
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/554395.jpgNov 08 22:32
cubexyzXRevan86, worth a look for sureNov 08 22:32
XRevan86MinceR: heresyNov 08 22:32
XRevan86Apple adaptersNov 08 22:32
MinceRwell, at least they produce heat for the kitty :>Nov 08 22:33
XRevan86and headphones plugged into USB?Nov 08 22:33
cubexyzsurprisingly, there's quite a lot of interest in commodore 64 stuff stillNov 08 22:33
XRevan86I never knew electricity longs for musicNov 08 22:33
XRevan86cubexyz: indeedNov 08 22:33
XRevan86Somewhen last year I tried out an honestly pirated eComStation ISO in VirtualBoxNov 08 22:35
MinceRthe latest conrad catalog i got in the mail had a "mini c64" in itNov 08 22:35
MinceRwith games includedNov 08 22:35
XRevan86to check out that OS/2 some people so devotedly loveNov 08 22:35
XRevan86The UI is… horrificNov 08 22:35
MinceRXRevan86: maybe they're wireless and they're being chargedNov 08 22:35
MinceRwhat's horrific about the UI other than the global event loop?Nov 08 22:36
cubexyzthe mini c64 sucksNov 08 22:36
cubexyzunfortunatelyNov 08 22:36
cubexyznice idea, bad implementationNov 08 22:36
MinceRhow so?Nov 08 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: global event loop?Nov 08 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: I only understand that term in programmingNov 08 22:37
XRevan86like a GLib main event loopNov 08 22:37
XRevan86or python asyncio event loopNov 08 22:37
MinceRi can't find what i read about it, but allegedly a single malfunctioning application can cause PM to lock upNov 08 22:37
XRevan86MinceR: Sounds like the best stuff preserved from IBM PC-DOSNov 08 22:39
cubexyzMinceR, bad controller, cord is too short, poor selection of games, adding games is difficult, there is no real c64 keyboard and other implementation issuesNov 08 22:39
XRevan86(that is, MS-DOS)Nov 08 22:39
MinceRicNov 08 22:40
cubexyzyou'd be far better off with the vice emulatorNov 08 22:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Who would've thought :)Nov 08 22:40
cubexyzthere's another interesting project called FPASIDNov 08 22:43
cubexyzrecreating the MOS 6581 chipNov 08 22:43
cubexyzFPGASIDNov 08 22:43
cubexyzhttp://www.fpgasid.de/homeNov 08 22:44
MinceRniceNov 08 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fpgasid.de | The FPGASID ProjectNov 08 22:44
MinceRcan it reproduce the weaknesses of the old SID? :>Nov 08 22:45
cubexyzI'm told it sounds very close to the real thingNov 08 22:45
MinceR:)Nov 08 22:45
XRevan86RHEL Warp 7.6Nov 08 22:46
cubexyzremember you talked about old computers eventually failingNov 08 22:46
XRevan86they should adopt that naming convention >:3Nov 08 22:46
XRevan86My LCD screen a few days ago failedNov 08 22:47
cubexyzbut work is being done to keep the old computers workingNov 08 22:47
XRevan86only 10 years oldNov 08 22:47
cubexyzmy oldest LCDs are from 2003Nov 08 22:47
cubexyzXRevan86, bad caps I betNov 08 22:47
XRevan86it now takes time for it to power upNov 08 22:47
XRevan86keeps flashing the power buttonNov 08 22:47
XRevan86can do it for hoursNov 08 22:48
XRevan86and then suddenly it works just fineNov 08 22:48
cubexyzI wonder if there are still thinkpad 700's still workingNov 08 22:49
cubexyzthose colour LCDs would be 26 years old nowNov 08 22:49
XRevan86cubexyz: caps == capacitor?Nov 08 22:50
cubexyzbut 10 years, you should get at least 10 years normallyNov 08 22:50
cubexyzXRevan86, yesNov 08 22:50
XRevan86cubexyz: that is likelyNov 08 22:50
XRevan86and the older screen that's 12 years old is just fineNov 08 22:52
XRevan86that's what I'm using right nowNov 08 22:52
cubexyzXRevan86, there are snap in capacitors nowNov 08 22:55
XRevan86cubexyz: the what?Nov 08 22:55
cubexyzthey made a capacitor which is easier to mount Nov 08 22:56
XRevan86cubexyz: I've never actually tried to do that :)Nov 08 23:06
XRevan86nada experienceNov 08 23:06
cubexyzI have a lot of bad stuff so I can practise on bog standard P3 motherboardsNov 08 23:06
cubexyzXRevan86, many howto videos on youtubeNov 08 23:07
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17123115Nov 08 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectNov 08 23:08
cubexyzalso...Nov 08 23:09
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiphoton_lithographyNov 08 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Multiphoton lithography - WikipediaNov 08 23:10
cubexyzmaybe in the future people will be able to make their own chipsNov 08 23:10
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Cross-eyed_Lefty_from_Tula_and_the_Steel_FleaNov 08 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Tale of Cross-eyed Lefty from Tula and the Steel Flea - WikipediaNov 08 23:11
MinceRwe'll have to, as the IT industry is collapsingNov 08 23:14
MinceRor being diverted into some sort of fashion industryNov 08 23:14
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Red Hat employees were very unhappy at the IBM takeover meeting.Nov 09 02:28
DaemonFC[m]I suppose many will be out of a job within the next year.Nov 09 02:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Copyleft Licensing: GPL Initiative, Free Software Directory, FSF Policy on 'Commons Clause' etc. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117257 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8a95a2f3-cece-4a60-9eb5-64bb978ba054]Nov 09 03:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Containers: #Docker Enterprise 2.1 and VMware Acquiring Heptio (for #Kubernetes ) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117258 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5d923295-04f2-4680-b851-545c9335ddfa]Nov 09 03:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Fedora 29 Released – Here’s What’s New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117259 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dca826bb-3f2f-4930-b47c-b2cb3b52531a]Nov 09 03:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Samsung announce Linux on DeX with Ubuntu: for developers on the move http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117260 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ab4f7c92-ba95-4f21-b5a7-b8794289c4ac]Nov 09 03:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FreeBSD 12.0 Faces A Minor Setback But Still Should Be Out Ahead Of Christmas http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117261 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2d33c329-b417-4202-aaee-329b4021ac73]Nov 09 03:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, VirtualBox Zero-Day Vulnerability, Red Hat Enterprise Linux FIPS 140-2, Extended Security Maintenance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117262 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c6af956-1a18-4e71-9672-2efcca52459e]Nov 09 04:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: TenFourFox Turns 8, Extensions in Firefox 64 and Happy BMO Push Day http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117263 [https://pleroma.site/objects/261a6ab9-3b3d-4b21-adf3-9288f63dbf42]Nov 09 04:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo, Linux Journal, and Red Hat's CLH http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117264 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d96a1c59-82f9-4342-a8d5-a188ce7df50f]Nov 09 04:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: French Krita Book and Qt 5.12.0 Beta 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117266 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fe70935e-f5fa-4f46-aba3-8567edaa2d4b]Nov 09 04:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation Consortia and Other Consortia: Cloud-Native, LF Energy, GraphQL, OpenMP and ODPi Egeria http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117268 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fc9f71d6-74bb-4d2c-ab51-0f9af0e77f2b]Nov 09 04:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raptor Talos II POWER9 Benchmarks Against AMD Threadripper & Intel Core i9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117267 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8afd1fd1-9a10-441a-9e3e-89c710d3c96c]Nov 09 05:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117269 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89a8a954-577b-47a1-a7c1-1cdd596c677a]Nov 09 05:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian Package Analysis and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117270 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d22ebce-1b52-4453-97bb-92e8096482d5]Nov 09 06:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117271 [https://pleroma.site/objects/401509d4-4056-4547-9e61-9f129cfa6f31]Nov 09 06:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 9/11/2018: Qt 5.12.0 Beta 4, Ubuntu On Samsung Galaxy Devices, Rust 1.30.1 http://techrights.org/2018/11/09/rust-1-30-1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/bf88adc6-e804-45d9-a466-38c52f9021a9]Nov 09 06:20
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17123023Nov 09 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectNov 09 08:00
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556944.jpgNov 09 08:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: DJI, Electronic Arts, ZTE, Red Hat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117275 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bdb602dd-0a8c-47e2-bb50-72f3a7892a78]Nov 09 17:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Belated Analysis of IBM's Acquisition of Red Hat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117276 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0f8e7790-d780-4bdd-b761-57642dfcc651]Nov 09 17:41
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Steam, Holy Potatoes, OFF GRID, RPCS3 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117281 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0a67aaca-604a-4cb6-917d-70720a51fee5]Nov 09 18:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Oreo dev kit showcases the Snapdragon 670 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117277 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e0d4edc6-9563-4e78-801c-826c65452d58]Nov 09 18:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Kdenlive 18.08.3 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117278 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5741f913-322e-43f9-9a71-325ba8a23ddc]Nov 09 18:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Must-Have Tools for Writers on the #Linux Platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117279 [https://pleroma.site/objects/16414d98-ae7e-4537-8288-835d8780001b]Nov 09 18:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Better Linux Support Is Coming For The Huawei MateBook X http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117280 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fe34928d-5518-49c8-9ad5-b878d5c76955]Nov 09 18:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Polaris/Vega Performance At The End Of Mesa 18.3 Feature Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117282 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0ea3c691-9cee-47a9-8f42-614bad2a7402]Nov 09 18:48
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Essential System Tools: journalctl – query and display messages from the journal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117285 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80ca0cdb-b400-46b6-ae65-746ae307bbcc]Nov 09 19:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Import your files from closed or obsolete applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117286 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e94210ce-5692-47b5-8aa6-738ae875a1b5]Nov 09 19:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117287 [https://pleroma.site/objects/519daca5-38dc-4b21-a690-89999927c758]Nov 09 19:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 2018 Mac Mini blocks Linux, here are alternative small form factor PCshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117288 context: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117148 [https://pleroma.site/objects/18a21b97-bab3-47b7-ad6d-3dfb162d449c]Nov 09 19:45
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XRevan86MinceR: https://youtu.be/Wh8PUImUMYoNov 09 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Hungarian Language: Magyar nyelv - YouTubeNov 09 20:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Updates and FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117289 [https://pleroma.site/objects/15a943f8-2aa8-413d-bb23-843218743147]Nov 09 20:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How Do You Appreciate Fedora? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117290 [https://pleroma.site/objects/23d31e37-e031-46d2-b53e-02eb06392b06]Nov 09 20:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Librem 5 Development Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117291 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5ed0a75-2734-443c-a2b6-f465e582bcab]Nov 09 20:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #SolusLinux is Under New Management http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117292 [https://pleroma.site/objects/215bf2a3-e364-43c5-bc29-d1c89aca2cbb]Nov 09 20:37
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Evaluate Linux server distros for your data center http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117294 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0095980a-296c-4676-8bc8-f8c8c40e3a25]Nov 09 22:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Mesa 18.3 RC2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117295 [https://pleroma.site/objects/13a30826-e1e0-4c34-ac21-e2557d74654e]Nov 09 22:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical: Surveillance ("Big Data") and "Smart" Kiosks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117296 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f22342d-6ed7-4afd-9c77-adae262b9f45]Nov 09 22:22
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GIMP 2.10.8 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117297 [https://pleroma.site/objects/de8e8dbf-064a-44cb-bdb9-9a9aeff64063]Nov 09 22:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 3.20 and Gaming News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117298 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92a5c32d-b224-45f7-bc4a-5c1316647e7d]Nov 09 23:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #VirtualBox 5.2.22 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117299 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fd0ea328-da3c-4d8c-b0ac-e0c6df7f9ca8]Nov 09 23:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ScyllaDB Releases Scylla Open Source 3.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117300 [https://pleroma.site/objects/73567331-2131-486b-a5f5-6902401c51f9]Nov 09 23:49
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/DXmY8RQ.gifvNov 09 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | squeeeeezeeeNov 09 23:59
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/TvpseNov 10 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-They just don't make 'em like they used to! - Album on ImgurNov 10 00:05
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cubexyzwell there's people fixing surface mounted PCBs on ebay nowNov 10 05:16
cubexyzlooks like some folks are gluing in caps Nov 10 05:18
cubexyznot soldering Nov 10 05:18
cubexyzhey if it works why notNov 10 05:18
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oiaohmcubexyz: depends on the surface mount part.Nov 10 08:58
oiaohmcubexyz: some parts are not rated to use solder.Nov 10 08:58
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oiaohmcubexyz: Some things are manufactured with conductive epoxy.    https://product.tdk.com/info/en/contact/faq/faq_detail_D/1432616877199.html  surface mount part made for epoxy application is in fact different to a part made for solder application. Nov 10 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-product.tdk.com | Does TDK offer MLCCs for use with conductive epoxy? | FAQ | TDK Product centerNov 10 09:14
oiaohmBasically don't mix up your solder and epoxy parts.Nov 10 09:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security and DRM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117303 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e75fe1f6-9f67-40c1-9609-c447fab19814]Nov 10 09:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS: ESP32, MDN, GNU and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117304 [https://pleroma.site/objects/27c7819b-363f-4ac7-a2cc-7faa738613e7]Nov 10 10:04
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Zstd-Compressed Linux Kernel and PRs Bot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117306 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79a48da4-6722-4fb1-9b72-52ba61914cbe]Nov 10 10:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: Red Hat's Future and Kubernetes in the News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117307 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6bf164b9-8785-4878-9434-010c55e979c9]Nov 10 10:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE and GNOME: Freenode#live, KDE Applications 18.12 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117308 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d048832b-2ac9-4d4e-b8ad-0b2b63b7b223]Nov 10 10:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 10/11/2018: Mesa 18.3 RC2, ‘Linux on DeX’ Beta and Windows Breaking Itself Again http://techrights.org/2018/11/10/linux-on-dex-beta/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/265d703b-60b2-47dd-b7e8-b5102fb34159]Nov 10 10:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora Community and Debian Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117309 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1d8b6ac-b252-4f9f-81af-86bf4389b154]Nov 10 10:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bison 3.2.1 released [stable] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117310 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f996893-1a26-4a97-a979-673a53011f30]Nov 10 10:43
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556942.jpgNov 10 14:56
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556861.jpgNov 10 15:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: BSD: TrueOS amd OpenBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117312 [https://pleroma.site/objects/06696468-c8a0-4d21-b315-a9fc5440b581]Nov 10 15:38
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556817.jpgNov 10 15:41
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18103029Nov 10 16:26
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DaemonFC[m]I've grown used to Red Hat-style system management tools. I don't know how comfortable I'd be on BSD right away.Nov 10 17:52
DaemonFC[m]I have a feeling that IBM will force my hand sooner or later.Nov 10 17:52
DaemonFC[m]Will they really let Fedora go on like it is now? I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Fedora entirely and announced that RHEL will be the only OS you can get from them.Nov 10 17:53
DaemonFC[m]The value of Fedora to Red Hat is having a playground to preview potential changes to RHEL and get it tested by millions of people on real hardware, but IBM might not appreciate that.Nov 10 17:54
MinceRimplying ratcrap tested anythingNov 10 17:57
MinceRlook at cancerd and yumNov 10 17:57
MinceRis this what software that passed tests looks like?Nov 10 17:58
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/556801.jpgNov 10 18:06
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #GCC 9 Lands Initial Support For The #OpenRISC Architecture http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117317 [https://pleroma.site/objects/134c27fc-449b-4ebe-8e04-74531d542fe8]Nov 10 18:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu Core and Kura: A framework for IoT gateways http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117318 [https://pleroma.site/objects/16b5b9b3-d3ab-44a7-aa37-97395de9510d]Nov 10 18:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: POWER On-Chip Controller Driver Coming For Linux 4.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117319 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a3802622-80ec-4dd2-b378-599825f4be83]Nov 10 18:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA Open-Sources New I2C USB Type-C Turing GPU Driver In Linux 4.20 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117320 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d57892b4-dfb3-4f43-9641-83c34837e79e]Nov 10 18:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME: Purism Fractal Sponsorship and Developer Center Initiative http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117321 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79e5f7b2-d166-4266-8437-4bb2eca655d8]Nov 10 18:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft and Apple Against Repairs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117322 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7788f94d-21f2-4539-b4f7-e079886dc218]Nov 10 18:37
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17122910Nov 10 18:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Ghostery - The eye of the tracker is upon you http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117323 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77cc606d-a448-4cb8-98ae-410be7d6ed31]Nov 10 18:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google May Bring GPU Acceleration Support For Linux Apps on Chromebooks In Early 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117324 [https://pleroma.site/objects/761be622-679f-4d24-828e-5874e32e05de]Nov 10 20:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Journey on Budgie Desktop #1: Top Panel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/117325 [https://pleroma.site/objects/db035581-3564-46a7-875f-f17dbcf58d9e]Nov 10 20:19
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17122827Nov 10 20:42
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17122725Nov 10 20:59
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18110230Nov 10 21:22
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DaemonFC[m]I might try out Project Trident in GNOME Boxes.Nov 10 21:40
DaemonFC[m]I'm making a Kubuntu 18.10 live image to try.Nov 10 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Guess I'll see if KDE has gotten any better recently.Nov 10 21:48
DaemonFC[m]https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-journaling-filesystems/index.htmlNov 10 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibm.com | Anatomy of Linux journaling file systemsNov 10 21:50
DaemonFC[m]I doubt there's going to be much interest in adding support for SELinux security labels to JFS.Nov 10 21:50
DaemonFC[m]I recall that IBM's stewardship of JFS is down to one guy making sure it doesn't break when there's a new kernel out.Nov 10 21:51
DaemonFC[m]I used JFS on one of my Linux boxes back before Ext4.Nov 10 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Mostly because Ext3 was slow as shit and used a lot of CPU time calling the block allocator. Nov 10 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I eventually settled on XFS though.Nov 10 21:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: John texted me that they're trapped in the breakroom at the airport because the door won't open.Nov 10 22:00
DaemonFC[m]I told him to tell everyone to avoid wasting oxygen yelling at each other and instead grab the vending machine and use it as a battering ram.Nov 10 22:00
MinceR:)Nov 10 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Those people that moved in upstairs with the baby are my least favorite neighbors ever.Nov 10 22:03
DaemonFC[m]It's always either the baby screaming or them going "YAAAAY!!!!" every time it makes normal human developmental progress.Nov 10 22:04
DaemonFC[m]Praising people for adequecy is inappropriate. Nov 10 22:04
DaemonFC[m]I went rock climbing and nobody was down there going "YAAAAAY!".Nov 10 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Be proud of yourself. Don't expect others to be proud of you.Nov 10 22:05
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1712273Nov 10 22:53
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I got tired of the noise from the upstairs neighbors so I loaded Queen's Platinum Collection and aimed the speakers at the ceiling and turned it all the way up.Nov 10 23:47
MinceR:)Nov 10 23:48
DaemonFC[m]Their baby is up there screaming. Nov 10 23:48

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