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schestowitzkaniini: thanks for the code and the bot. Works great!!Aug 19 00:14
schestowitzI've been diverting some people off Twitter, some are opening accounts now in the fediverse, even some EFF staffAug 19 00:15
XRevan86schestowitz: That's great newsAug 19 00:15
schestowitzhttps://mashable.com/2017/04/15/mastodon-has-instance-for-everyone/Aug 19 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | In the rapidly expanding Mastodon fediverse, there's an instance for everyoneAug 19 00:15
schestowitzhow many total users?Aug 19 00:16
schestowitzinc. inactive?Aug 19 00:16
XRevan86schestowitz: It is hard to countAug 19 00:16
schestowitzsome people asked meAug 19 00:16
schestowitzroughlyAug 19 00:16
XRevan86IIRC, someone estimated about 2 millionAug 19 00:16
schestowitz10 million?Aug 19 00:16
schestowitzactive or total?Aug 19 00:16
XRevan86but my memory could be doing trickAug 19 00:16
schestowitzhttps://the-federation.info/Aug 19 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hubAug 19 00:16
schestowitzdiasporaAug 19 00:16
XRevan86https://fediverse.network/Aug 19 00:17
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XRevan861.5 million by this countAug 19 00:17
schestowitz Pleroma (245 - 345) serversAug 19 00:18
schestowitzThat's quite a lot, well done..Aug 19 00:18
schestowitzmore than gnu social at less than 200Aug 19 00:18
XRevan86schestowitz: a bit more than, ratherAug 19 00:18
XRevan86count postActiv inAug 19 00:18
XRevan86not that this makes a differenceAug 19 00:18
XRevan86just being pedantic :)Aug 19 00:18
schestowitzdanielnazer@mastodon.socialAug 19 00:23
schestowitzfollow himAug 19 00:23
schestowitzhe fights swpatsAug 19 00:23
schestowitzand he's new...Aug 19 00:23
schestowitznot you necessarily, anyone out there, give him a warm welcomeAug 19 00:24
schestowitzhe might bring more eff'ers thereAug 19 00:24
XRevan86schestowitz: Not a wise instance choiceAug 19 00:24
XRevan86but I guess teaching people about the inner politics will just scare them awareAug 19 00:24
XRevan86awayAug 19 00:24
XRevan86but I guess one can say "don't join the most obvious instance, this will only centralise things, one doesn't want another Gmail"Aug 19 00:27
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XRevan86or another Google Talk (hm, I'm sensing a pattern)Aug 19 00:28
XRevan86in a way it's good that Google Talk is goneAug 19 00:28
XRevan86More XMPP servers are compliant with the modern standards without that giant liability.Aug 19 00:29
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XRevan86Centralisation is also what punched StatusNet big time one time.Aug 19 00:53
XRevan86and recently GNU social with the demise of quitter.seAug 19 00:53
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kaniiniXRevan86 i offered to take over both quitter.se and gnusocial.de but they seemed hellbent on letting them dieAug 19 01:25
XRevan86kaniini: I was actively trying to communicate with the admin of gnusocial.de to come to some arrangement with possible candidates for hostingAug 19 01:27
XRevan86I honestly don't know what went wrongAug 19 01:27
XRevan86I guess it's simpler to shut things down than to look up whom to give the stuff, I don't know.Aug 19 01:29
kaniiniwell, my plan was simply to migrate them to pleromaAug 19 01:29
kaniinithere is a converter that is under developmentAug 19 01:29
schestowitz quitter.se  is dead too?Aug 19 01:29
schestowitzI didn't knowAug 19 01:30
schestowitzmany identi.ca refugees went thereAug 19 01:30
kaniinisome quitter instances switched to pleroma recentlyAug 19 01:30
XRevan86What gets to me is that I offered help and it was ignored in the end.Aug 19 01:30
kaniinii guess the converter from gnusocial is good enough nowAug 19 01:30
schestowitzfled after we were all close in identicaAug 19 01:30
XRevan86schestowitz: It's practically dead.Aug 19 01:30
kaniinirunning a GS instance is a real pain in the assAug 19 01:30
kaniinii used to run oneAug 19 01:30
kaniinithe only way to get decent performanceAug 19 01:30
kaniiniis to cache everythingAug 19 01:31
kaniinibut the cache plugins are really fragileAug 19 01:31
XRevan86schestowitz: Which was a big hit. A lot of people migrated to Mastodon.Aug 19 01:31
schestowitzseemed so with gnusocial.deAug 19 01:31
schestowitzthe site kept breakingAug 19 01:31
schestowitzso i guess he got tired of having to fix itAug 19 01:31
kaniinibut GS story is really complicatedAug 19 01:31
kaniinibasically FSF made this push for network servicesAug 19 01:32
schestowitzis mattl still involved?Aug 19 01:32
kaniinithe "gnu.io" initiativeAug 19 01:32
schestowitziirc he joined the cc peopleAug 19 01:32
XRevan86I'm hosting an instance, didn't o tell already? %)Aug 19 01:32
XRevan86schestowitz: not involved in the slightestAug 19 01:32
schestowitzi met him in personAug 19 01:32
kaniiniand then they got LibreFM and the StatusNet fork to join GNU.ioAug 19 01:32
kaniinibut then they let GNU.io rot basicallyAug 19 01:32
schestowitzhe used to live around hereAug 19 01:32
kaniiniFSF didn't really understand how to organize around network servicesAug 19 01:33
kaniiniso getting enough momentum and support was a struggleAug 19 01:33
kaniiniby that time, diaspora got really hotAug 19 01:33
schestowitznot people speak of peertube,. not media goblinAug 19 01:33
schestowitzexcept fsf/libreplanetAug 19 01:33
kaniiniso a lot of people went and jumped on diasporaAug 19 01:33
schestowitzi need some sleep now, gn ladsAug 19 01:34
kaniiniinstalling and maintaining mastodon also is a pain in the assAug 19 01:34
kaniinibut not as bad as GSAug 19 01:34
XRevan86mediagoblin had traction, not sure where it wentAug 19 01:34
XRevan86schestowitz: Good night.Aug 19 01:34
kaniinimediagoblin invested resources in pump.io which was a deadendAug 19 01:34
kaniininow they are trying to get onto activitypubAug 19 01:34
kaniinimeanwhile peertube came alongAug 19 01:34
kaniiniit doesn't really matter though, it's all AGPL free software at the endAug 19 01:35
kaniinialthough some asshat is "porting" pleroma to node.js (yeah i don't know why)Aug 19 01:35
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kaniiniand he is making his port MIT licenseAug 19 01:35
kaniinii don't really know the legality of that, should probably talk to a lawyer I guessAug 19 01:35
XRevan86kaniini: Religious reasons?Aug 19 01:36
kaniinii don't agree with it at any rateAug 19 01:36
XRevan86kaniini: If his work is a derivative, that's a violation.Aug 19 01:36
kaniiniwell, that is the question reallyAug 19 01:36
XRevan86You just need to prove he took your codeAug 19 01:36
kaniiniis it really a derivative if he reads the pleroma sourceAug 19 01:36
kaniiniand then write the same thing in node.jsAug 19 01:36
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XRevan86kaniini: It really is.Aug 19 01:37
kaniinitraditionally i would agreeAug 19 01:37
kaniinii just think it may be unfortunate for a GPL enforcement action to result in that being case lawAug 19 01:37
XRevan86Now you just need to convince the judge :)Aug 19 01:37
kaniinibecause it could hurt us a lot worse than allowing thisAug 19 01:37
kaniini;)Aug 19 01:37
XRevan86kaniini: It's really weird how presedence law worksAug 19 01:38
kaniiniif you think about it, a lot of free software is clones of non-free softwareAug 19 01:38
kaniinisuch a judgement could bite usAug 19 01:38
kaniinithat's why i am uneasy about doing GPL enforcementAug 19 01:38
kaniiniin this caseAug 19 01:38
XRevan86there are additional stakes at trying to defend one's rights without proper defence (money)Aug 19 01:38
XRevan86kaniini: Not really thoughAug 19 01:39
kaniiniat the moment i just keep a close eye on what this person is doing ;)Aug 19 01:39
XRevan86kaniini: It is okay to reverse engineerAug 19 01:39
XRevan86kaniini: If he looks at Pleroma and reproduces what he sees, by all meansAug 19 01:39
kaniiniwell he changed a few thingsAug 19 01:40
kaniinibut a lot of the core algorithms are the sameAug 19 01:40
XRevan86if he looks at the *code*, then there's a problemAug 19 01:40
kaniinithe few times i've tried to do GPL enforcement in this type of spaceAug 19 01:40
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kaniininothing of value really came out of itAug 19 01:41
kaniiniso it really comes down to if this kid starts talking mad shit or not reallyAug 19 01:41
kaniini;)Aug 19 01:41
XRevan86kaniini: The only reason Wine is legal is because they don't look at the (leaked) codeAug 19 01:41
XRevan86kaniini: Well, I supposeAug 19 01:41
XRevan86kaniini: You have leverage over him, sort of (:Aug 19 01:41
kaniinimyself and the other main copyright holders of pleroma made it clear that we do not support his activitiesAug 19 01:42
kaniiniand we requested already that he stop referring to pleroma in relation to his activitiesAug 19 01:42
XRevan86kaniini: He's basically a pirate.Aug 19 01:42
kaniiniyesAug 19 01:42
kaniiniin a way, but i don't mind somebody reading pleroma and learningAug 19 01:42
kaniiniwhat i do mind is somebody doing that, then saying that their node.js clone is better than the originalAug 19 01:43
kaniiniand doing the whole FUD thing that these mastodon users seem to like doingAug 19 01:43
kaniinithat in and of itself, is a strange developmentAug 19 01:43
XRevan86kaniini: He mustn't copy AGPL code is all, and then convert and whatnotAug 19 01:44
XRevan86kaniini: I haven't heard of this myself other than right now from youAug 19 01:44
XRevan86Although a lot of controversies manage to fly by me :)Aug 19 01:45
kaniiniit's a handful of people surrounding GargronAug 19 01:45
XRevan86I see a lot of bickering about some unfriendly elements in my timeline, yet not the sources.Aug 19 01:45
kaniiniyou probably don't follow themAug 19 01:45
kaniinibut,Aug 19 01:45
XRevan86Which in a way makes the bickering the most unfriendly thing in my timeline %)Aug 19 01:46
kaniinibasically this dude named se7en set up an instance for his own use (he was on freezepeach.xyz)Aug 19 01:46
kaniiniand these people used that to claim Pleroma = nazisAug 19 01:46
kaniiniit was the most wack shit i've ever experienced honestlyAug 19 01:46
kaniinibut yet, there's at least 5 mastodon instances dedicated to alt-right stuffAug 19 01:47
kaniinithat i'm aware ofAug 19 01:47
kaniinisame people don't talk about that at allAug 19 01:47
kaniiniwe don't need tribalism in free softwareAug 19 01:47
XRevan86kaniini: When Mastodon became suddenly popular, I started hearing stuff that GNU social is about NazisAug 19 01:47
kaniiniexactlyAug 19 01:47
kaniinisame people :)Aug 19 01:47
kaniinithey also said a bunch of GNU social instances were actually Pleroma instancesAug 19 01:48
kaniinihahaAug 19 01:48
XRevan86Considering that prior to that the whole network was about tech enthusiasm, that was oddAug 19 01:48
kaniiniwell, that's not trueAug 19 01:48
kaniiniindymedia adopted GNU social, and there's still some indymedia affiliated nodes on the fediverseAug 19 01:48
kaniinisuch as indy.imAug 19 01:48
XRevan86I've seen the domainAug 19 01:49
XRevan86kaniini: Who are they?Aug 19 01:49
kaniiniwho are who?Aug 19 01:49
kaniiniindymedia?Aug 19 01:49
XRevan86kaniini: yesAug 19 01:49
kaniinian organization and related network dedicated to the open publishing of citizen-reported newsAug 19 01:50
kaniinii used to do a lot of sysadmin work for various indymedia collectivesAug 19 01:50
kaniinialso ran their irc serverAug 19 01:50
XRevan86kaniini: neatAug 19 01:51
XRevan86Ah, o also remember there was an exodus of Spaniards into the fediverseAug 19 01:51
XRevan86Obviously not Nazis, but non-techiesAug 19 01:52
kaniiniindymedia wasn't techies eitherAug 19 01:53
kaniinii mean, there was a group that coordinated IT for indymedia and it's affiliatesAug 19 01:53
kaniinibutAug 19 01:53
kaniini99% of indymedia contributors were not techies, but instead people reporting on the fucked up shit they were seeingAug 19 01:53
XRevan86Although shitposter.club was a thing, and a big oneAug 19 01:54
kaniinishitposter.club is complicatedAug 19 01:55
kaniinibut i don't think they are nazis eitherAug 19 01:55
XRevan86Yeah, they are like imageboardiansAug 19 01:55
kaniinimaybe due to my involvement in indymedia i have more of an understanding of what nazis are actually like :)Aug 19 01:55
XRevan86which I guess easily offendable people can consider the absolute worstAug 19 01:56
kaniinianyway, i am going to just keep doing what i do and try to not worry about that stuff so much ;)Aug 19 01:56
XRevan86Satan Nazi Bourgeois Communist babyeatersAug 19 01:57
kaniinii don't have the time nor inclination to educate a bunch of idiots from twitter about what fascism actually isAug 19 01:57
kaniiniconsidering there's a few antifa collectives using pleroma, i think that speaks for itself.  if pleroma was a nazi plot as some mastodon users say, clearly they wouldn't use it.Aug 19 01:58
kaniinii do fear that the mastodon population who point at everything and say it is nazi make it easier for actual fascists to infiltrate the platform and remain undetectedAug 19 01:58
kaniinibut, i guess we will deal with that when we get to that pointAug 19 01:58
kaniiniright now the fascists are mostly on gabAug 19 01:58
kaniiniand if they stay there, i wouldn't have any objectionAug 19 01:59
XRevan86kaniini: One who cries wolf has it coming, as always.Aug 19 01:59
XRevan86It's like with extremism in RussiaAug 19 02:00
kaniiniincidentally, i don't understand why microsoft continue to host gabAug 19 02:00
kaniinii mean, i do understand, they probably make quite a bit of money off of themAug 19 02:00
XRevan86If I see a person and he says he's a convict for extremism, I probably won't even frown.Aug 19 02:00
kaniinibut at some point, you have to just say "i don't want to have that trash on my network"Aug 19 02:00
XRevan86So the question is, what happens when an actual extremist shows up?Aug 19 02:01
kaniiniXRevan86 i will overdose on popcornAug 19 02:03
XRevan86I am already used to seeing extremists as nerds who reblog articles from the Constitution and motivational posters about democracy.Aug 19 02:04
kaniinithere's a lot of people on the mastodon side of thingsAug 19 02:04
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kaniiniwho, at least to me, as a psychologist, seem easily radicalizedAug 19 02:04
XRevan86kaniini: I didn't know that side of you :)Aug 19 02:05
XRevan86kaniini: I think that some people are too willing to put labels on everyone.Aug 19 02:06
XRevan86I sometimes think that maybe stories have something to do with it by almost always having a cliché antagonist :)Aug 19 02:07
XRevan86so people are looking for the bad guys IRLAug 19 02:08
XRevan86Maybe propaganda helps by creating a world of evil foreign spies and stuffAug 19 02:09
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kaniiniright now i am designing a new fediverse service which allows for tumblr-like useAug 19 02:11
kaniinilargely because i want to replace the crappy blog i have right nowAug 19 02:11
kaniinii can't wait for the shitshow that will be ;)Aug 19 02:11
XRevan86But maybe my perspective is dictated by not actually meeting a Nazi (and knowing about it)Aug 19 02:15
XRevan86I'm of a dominant nation of the country I live inAug 19 02:18
XRevan86kaniini: What if I tell you I heard about Tumblr but never payed attention? :)Aug 19 02:20
XRevan86so "aka tumblr" didn't help muchAug 19 02:23
XRevan86kaniini: Did you mean "like friendica"?Aug 19 02:23
XRevan86though I suppose notAug 19 02:25
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kaniininot at allAug 19 02:38
kaniini;)Aug 19 02:38
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TweetTuxMachines                 Benchmarks Of #Btrfs RAID On Four Samsung 970 EVO NVMeAug 19 08:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031121483727351808Aug 19 11:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Microsoft #OpenwashingAug 19 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 Debian at Montreal, Kernel Event (Linux PlumbersAug 19 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines                 Links 19/8/2018: Skrooge 2.15.0, Wine 3.14, End ofAug 19 11:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Akademy 2018 https://t.co/SekXfI6qLQ (techrights.org)Aug 19 11:46
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schestowitzkaniini: I've noticed that the bot abbreviated longer (>~200 characters) postsAug 19 13:13
schestowitzPossessions record for Manchester City today? 90% or more?Aug 19 14:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031178432158281730Aug 19 15:35
TweetTuxMachines                 #KStars v2.9.8 releasedAug 19 15:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031187764589539328Aug 19 15:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kate/KTextEditor Picks Up Many Improvements To EnhanceAug 19 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel: RISC-V and Virtual MachineAug 19 15:45
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schestowitzkaniini: another possible bugfix, handling of /newlinesAug 19 18:27
schestowitzcurrently it omits them altogether, turning them into a whitespace would be betterAug 19 18:28
kaniiniyeah, need to fix newlines.  post abbreviation is tricky, we need to be careful to ensure the bot doesn't flood offAug 19 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031269726041849858Aug 19 21:03
TweetTuxMachines                 A Look At The Windows vs. Linux Scaling Performance Up ToAug 19 21:03
TweetTuxMachines                 64 Threads With The AMD 2990WX https://t.co/0mrbB801PNAug 19 21:03
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cubexyzyou can't really stop people copying informationAug 20 00:13
cubexyzsome libraries even had photocopiersAug 20 00:14
cubexyzI even helped scan some old magazinesAug 20 00:16
DaemonFC[m]The laws in the US are such a mess that some estimates figure that the average American commits three federal offenses every day without knowing about it.Aug 20 00:32
DaemonFC[m]And the government can easily prosecute anyone just by following them around long enough.Aug 20 00:32
DaemonFC[m]The NKVD in the Soviet Union apparently said, "Give us the man and we'll make the case.". Aug 20 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Sad to see the same thing going on here.Aug 20 00:33
DaemonFC[m]The Lacey Act makes it a federal offense to accidentally break the law of a foreign country.Aug 20 00:33
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DaemonFC[m]Like, if you are importing seafood and the laws of the originating country say that it can't come in plastic containers, and it does, you've committed an offense under the Lacey Act, even though there is no federal law banning this in the US.Aug 20 00:34
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I heard the same saying in a TV show not attributed to anyone in particularAug 20 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Also, destruction of evidence, making false statements to a federal official, obstructing justice, etc.Aug 20 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Those are all pretty easy to bend to fit any situation.Aug 20 00:35
DaemonFC[m]https://mic.com/articles/86797/8-ways-we-regularly-commit-felonies-without-realizing-it#.X6NOAyKLIAug 20 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mic.com | 8 Ways We Regularly Commit Felonies Without Realizing ItAug 20 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Meh, no telling how CP ended up on the guy's computer, but even if they did get him on Obstruction, it would have been better for him to have destroyed the computer than to be caught with it. :/Aug 20 00:38
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DaemonFC[m]20 years vs. up to 75 years per image/video.Aug 20 00:39
DaemonFC[m]Even if they got him on obstruction and gave him the max of 20 years, he could be out on good behavior in 10 years or less.Aug 20 00:40
DaemonFC[m]I recall the feds making a few extreme examples of some people, giving them sentences of like 10,000 years in prison.Aug 20 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, there are people in US federal prisons with a release date of like May 7th, 12,011.Aug 20 00:42
DaemonFC[m]They didn't technically get a life sentence, so they have a release date.Aug 20 00:43
DaemonFC[m]:PAug 20 00:43
DaemonFC[m]It sounds absurd, but there's a reason behind it.Aug 20 00:44
DaemonFC[m]Even if they did end up getting an appeal that overturned 90% of their convictions and got time off for good behavior, they would still have a release date of May 7, 2,511.Aug 20 00:45
XRevan86It's nice that law is adjusted for the possibility of discovery of immortality.Aug 20 00:45
DaemonFC[m]In case that bacteria that the Russian mad scientist injected himself with really is an immortality serum?Aug 20 00:46
MinceR20 013317 <+DaemonFC[m]> The NKVD in the Soviet Union apparently said, "Give us the man and we'll make the case.". Aug 20 00:47
MinceR20 013323 <+DaemonFC[m]> Sad to see the same thing going on here.Aug 20 00:47
MinceRi wonder if there's any country where it doesn't work that wayAug 20 00:47
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Well, he has to live up to the pension somehowAug 20 00:47
XRevan86to retirementAug 20 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Social Security in the US is fucked as well.Aug 20 00:48
DaemonFC[m]THey keep pushing the retirement age back so that more people will die without getting benefits, or will live on benefits for fewer years. Aug 20 00:49
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Probably not as muchAug 20 00:49
DaemonFC[m]Their justification is that rich people are living longer, so poor people should have to wait until 70 to take full retirement.Aug 20 00:49
DaemonFC[m]It's always a gamble. You can take it early with a penalty, but sometimes it's better to just go ahead and do it.Aug 20 00:50
DaemonFC[m]Depends on what your health is like.Aug 20 00:50
DaemonFC[m]For the average Baby Boomer, they can take it with a penalty as early as 62, and 65 or 66 is full, and they can get a bigger check by waiting up until age 70.Aug 20 00:51
DaemonFC[m]If you'rre 62 and have terminal cancer with a four year survival expectancy, hurry up and take it, even with the penalty.Aug 20 00:51
DaemonFC[m]If you're likely to make 80 or 90 in good shape you might want to delay. Aug 20 00:52
DaemonFC[m]The formula for the check increases for waiting past full retirement age is very generous because it was devised back when interest rates were much higher than they are now. Aug 20 00:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrightshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114690 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c4968766-8110-4e76-93eb-55c398d60dc0]Aug 20 00:53
DaemonFC[m]Congress has closed a few loopholes that people were exploiting to suck more money out of the system than was intended, but the effects on the solvency of the program were minimal.Aug 20 00:53
DaemonFC[m]They might have bought the program another 9 months past when the Trust Fund was originally going to run out of money.Aug 20 00:54
DaemonFC[m]Still, it's 9 months and it was politically easy to do because they never intended for the file and suspend hack to exist anyway.Aug 20 00:54
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: The Russian system is simpler than thatAug 20 00:55
XRevan86Okay, that's not trueAug 20 00:56
XRevan86There are complications that screw a lot of people over big timeAug 20 00:56
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XRevan86Yeah, I probably shouldn't try to explain it, I'll get it wrong.Aug 20 00:57
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DaemonFC[m]The US system is funded by payroll taxes on employers and employees.Aug 20 00:59
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DaemonFC[m]It ran big surpluses back in the 80s and 90s and smaller ones more recently.Aug 20 00:59
DaemonFC[m]So the federal government "borrowed" the money and issued interest bearing bonds to the program.Aug 20 01:00
DaemonFC[m]In theory, this helped the solvency because instead of sitting there earning nothing,  the money gets approximately as much interest as the rate on the 10 year bond.Aug 20 01:01
DaemonFC[m]As long as the federal government honors the obligations,  the program can pay out full benefits to the year 2034, but then it can only pay out what it takes in and everyone gets a 28% benefit cut.Aug 20 01:02
DaemonFC[m]Medicare is in worse shape though. At least the hospital insurance fund is.Aug 20 01:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: #GIMP , #PasswordSafe , and #Podcastshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114696 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1976b343-7f55-4a6d-8cc0-3af53845acd3]Aug 20 10:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #YunoHost 3.0.0.1http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114697 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1ee29550-3a71-4097-868d-b9955b78e241]Aug 20 11:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114698 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5a4aae90-ff32-4b70-89c2-b3d4bb3351e9]Aug 20 11:21
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schestowitz kaniini: there's a character limit in the botAug 20 11:43
schestowitzso it sometimes truncates the postsAug 20 11:43
schestowitzkaniini: also newlines handling ;-)Aug 20 11:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Keeping patient data safe with open source tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114699 #freesw [https://pleroma.site/objects/24e74de0-aaf4-449c-b99e-ebb62a9d80c7]Aug 20 12:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114701 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d95b8670-fead-4589-9ae2-87ae63c2b701]Aug 20 12:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @DesankaCvjetia1 favourited 'Debian at Montreal, Kernel Event (Linux Plumbers Conference),...'Aug 20 13:09
*TweetTuxMachines @DesankaCvjetia1 favourited 'KDE: Kate and #Akademy 2018 https://t.co/cBsW28t1Pa...'Aug 20 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Kate and Akademy 2018 | Tux MachinesAug 20 13:10
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---MinceR gives voice to aindilis cmdshftn acer-box__ FirreAug 20 16:07
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/xIWSGUC.jpgAug 20 16:16
XRevan86MinceR: In Windows 10 Edge will say "I'll be back"Aug 20 16:38
XRevan86with the next major updateAug 20 16:38
MinceR:>Aug 20 16:39
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022127Aug 20 17:04
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XRevan86MinceR: At least we feel bad about it %)Aug 20 17:25
MinceRi suspect the religious zealot majority doesn'tAug 20 17:26
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022119Aug 20 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 20 17:27
cubexyz"Spanish who had been captured by the natives (who had learnt of the Spanish thirst for gold) had their feet and hands bound, and then molten gold poured down their throats as the victims were mocked: "Eat, eat gold, Christians".Aug 20 17:30
cubexyzpeople were brutal in the pastAug 20 17:31
MinceRindeedAug 20 17:35
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/WRKBMf9.jpgAug 20 17:53
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 15 GNU/Linux Popular Apps in #AppImagehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114703 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31aacb9b-9c33-44e3-a363-9994e1726ea7]Aug 20 18:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Release 1.0.0 of #Flatpakhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114704 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b859d03c-66d3-4cee-8c44-e8208a1fa01c]Aug 20 19:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtoshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114705 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fc1ca759-8f17-4ad7-afca-c8cf3b76c34d]Aug 20 19:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031604268447543297Aug 20 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Release 1.0.0 of #FlatpakAug 20 19:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/11iwnPXqnf (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release 1.0.0 of Flatpak | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to Install, Change, Autostart Screensaver in Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114702 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca4a6b7c-2c6f-43bf-a800-09f9eb667ee9]Aug 20 19:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031605798991024129Aug 20 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosAug 20 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/I4vqJxGuj3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:21
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022058Aug 20 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031607025124487170Aug 20 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 How to Install, Change, Autostart Screensaver in UbuntuAug 20 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/6OKi1Jb9ej (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install, Change, Autostart Screensaver in Ubuntu | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Blueberry Pi DIY hacker board taps Allwinner V3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114706 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6086f351-0132-4783-952b-a2cbd27c5452]Aug 20 19:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Performance Hit For A Xeon-Backed Ubuntu Linux VM With L1TF / Foreshadow Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114707 [https://pleroma.site/objects/193d02b9-74f8-46a2-a349-5d8b4c154f1b]Aug 20 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031612815033991169Aug 20 19:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Blueberry Pi DIY hacker board taps Allwinner V3Aug 20 19:48
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/SbxaVyw8Az (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blueberry Pi DIY hacker board taps Allwinner V3 | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Daily Lives Now Ship with Yaru Theme by Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114708 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f4e891dc-a916-4137-a142-8fa6bf8310bd]Aug 20 19:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031613677747752960Aug 20 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 The Performance Hit For A Xeon-Backed Ubuntu Linux VMAug 20 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 With L1TF / Foreshadow Patches https://t.co/EKgs0TzRMcAug 20 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Performance Hit For A Xeon-Backed Ubuntu Linux VM With L1TF / Foreshadow Patches | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031614661999902720Aug 20 19:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Daily Lives Now ShipAug 20 19:54
TweetTuxMachines                 with Yaru Theme by Default https://t.co/TbgWJ8QFJ4Aug 20 19:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Daily Lives Now Ship with Yaru Theme by Default | Tux MachinesAug 20 19:54
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 19:54
*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited 'Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Daily Lives Now Ship...'Aug 20 19:55
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) Daily Lives Now Ship...'Aug 20 19:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Deepin Linux Release Promises to Consume Less Memory Than Ubuntu, Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114709 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f7e458a8-3782-487b-9076-075494e37b87]Aug 20 19:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Fresh Look At The #NVIDIA vs. #Radeon Linux Performance & Perf-Per-Watt For August 2018 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114710 [https://pleroma.site/objects/611a350f-29b4-411b-941d-9a14a3d4d64b]Aug 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031616255248224257Aug 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest Deepin Linux Release Promises to Consume LessAug 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Memory Than Ubuntu, Windows https://t.co/BxIEXRYq92Aug 20 20:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Deepin Linux Release Promises to Consume Less Memory Than Ubuntu, Windows | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114711 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ae61a7f8-29ee-4f77-bfde-34e81182ddf4]Aug 20 20:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031617197909712897Aug 20 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 A Fresh Look At The #NVIDIA vs. #Radeon Linux PerformanceAug 20 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 & Perf-Per-Watt For August 2018 https://t.co/M4KAvcSvV3Aug 20 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Fresh Look At The NVIDIA vs. Radeon Linux Performance & Perf-Per-Watt For August 2018 | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031617682620198912Aug 20 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 #Android Leftovers https://t.co/w0MMiTKlQZAug 20 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:05
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031618401909829632Aug 20 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux KernelAug 20 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Regression, Releases Fix https://t.co/AvzyV4Cx9WAug 20 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:18
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*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Latest Deepin Linux Release Promises to Consume Less...'Aug 20 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux Kernel Regression, Releases Fix | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:19
*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited 'Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux Kernel...'Aug 20 20:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114713 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6fc5d962-5f3c-4dd3-a08d-9d5fd76aac60]Aug 20 20:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 4.19, 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114714 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b963ad8-0b78-4f71-8a72-15730b5bad5c]Aug 20 20:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031622533492166656Aug 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Games LeftoversAug 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/mZHmWEFVEJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Akademy 2018, Chakra GNU/Linux, and Krita Interview with Margarita Gadrathttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114715 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7631f70e-8135-4c15-9743-62245d0d5d04]Aug 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031623626850803713Aug 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel: Linux 4.19, 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference andAug 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 MoreAug 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/Xy7LVt6887 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 4.19, 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference and More | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031624683031064577Aug 20 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE: Akademy 2018, Chakra GNU/Linux, and Krita InterviewAug 20 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 with Margarita GadratAug 20 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/oqZWz7f01Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 20:51
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 20:51
*TweetTuxMachines @MariusNestor favourited 'Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux Kernel...'Aug 20 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy 2018, Chakra GNU/Linux, and Krita Interview with Margarita Gadrat | Tux MachinesAug 20 20:55
XRevan86MinceR: Is that a drink or a cleaning liquid?Aug 20 20:56
XRevan86Could be a continuation of the laundry detergent pod thing for all I knowAug 20 20:57
*XRevan86 looked it up: it's a drink. </thread>Aug 20 20:57
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MinceRni don't know what you're talking about, but several drinks can be used also as cleaning liquidAug 20 21:04
MinceRand some people drink cleaning liquidsAug 20 21:04
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022038Aug 20 21:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: FCC, Brotli Compression and an Extension http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114716 [https://pleroma.site/objects/365ad086-3179-4461-a22b-75620e9055fc]Aug 20 21:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #RedHat Leftovershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114717 [https://pleroma.site/objects/643b7bf8-77cb-462c-8312-0333c9fe52b8]Aug 20 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031639426701697024Aug 20 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Mozilla: FCC, Brotli Compression and an ExtensionAug 20 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/VINx18amsD (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: FCC, Brotli Compression and an Extension | Tux MachinesAug 20 21:33
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022027Aug 20 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 20 21:37
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18022032Aug 20 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 20 21:52
schestowitzLots of LFC hype; not looking so threatening versus #CPFC tonightAug 20 21:52
schestowitzMinceR: yikesAug 20 21:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031640331350106112Aug 20 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #RedHat LeftoversAug 20 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xSInQXGnUH (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 22:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 20 22:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/abou3oubaida/status/1031654406184468480Aug 20 22:29
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux KernelAug 20 22:29
TweetTuxMachines @abou3oubaida   Regression, Releases Fix https://t.co/AvzyV4Cx9WAug 20 22:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux Kernel Regression, Releases Fix | Tux MachinesAug 20 22:29
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 22:29
*TweetTuxMachines @abou3oubaida favourited 'Canonical Apologizes for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Linux Kernel...'Aug 20 22:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #SUSE is Still Working for #Microsofthttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114718 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f0f39103-f3cd-425c-baa4-b477eb6f9bdc]Aug 20 22:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What Does "Ethical" AI Mean for Open Source? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114719 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51f1fc89-2139-43a8-943a-7a0371c1791e]Aug 20 22:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031656340173795333Aug 20 22:41
TweetTuxMachines                 #SUSE is Still Working for #MicrosoftAug 20 22:41
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/yNIiKApzWN (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 20 22:41
TweetTuxMachines Aug 20 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE is Still Working for Microsoft | Tux MachinesAug 20 22:41
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: FOAAS, Jenkins 2, LLVM 6/7 and New Patcheshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114720 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31da1a7a-5e24-4cb1-af99-528017eecdb3]Aug 20 23:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114721 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80ff0417-a9d5-4442-b5c9-5e75efaeb77c]Aug 20 23:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Benchmarks on GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114722 [https://pleroma.site/objects/58b0790e-740e-4246-9034-75d28ee53262]Aug 20 23:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Rugged, sandwich-style Sitara SBC has optimized Linux stack http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114726 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bf5e5f5f-0158-4579-87b1-2b81cb482b1e]Aug 21 06:50
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Receives L1 Terminal Fault Mitigations, Update Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114727 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5ea9df8e-cafb-47f2-abf4-cdfaad149db7]Aug 21 06:52
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schestowitzhttps://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/gnome-shell-android-integration.htmlAug 21 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Gnome Shell Android Integration Extension GSConnect V12 Released - Linux Uprising BlogAug 21 09:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Lustre, Aqua Security, Election Security and Reproducible Builds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114730 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17a4ecbc-d44d-42cd-8f81-cf99b8ef5145]Aug 21 09:42
schestowitzzoobab: got an account in mastodon/gnusocial (fediverse/'identiverse')?Aug 21 09:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031823763145408512Aug 21 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Security: Lustre, Aqua Security, Election Security andAug 21 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Reproducible BuildsAug 21 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/aOWnX3m29Z (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 10:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Lustre, Aqua Security, Election Security and Reproducible Builds | Tux MachinesAug 21 10:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @SoftpediaLinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Receives L1 Terminal Fault...'Aug 21 11:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Teaching kids Linux at summer camp http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114731 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6680069a-af5d-4166-8a00-9077f7f6a628]Aug 21 11:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A checklist for submitting your first #Linux #kernel patch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114732 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8586991f-4524-4755-8baf-bcc03db18f5b]Aug 21 11:07
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Microsoft #Entryismhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114733 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b51ee8de-77db-45dd-ac8c-c91a608852ac]Aug 21 11:29
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zoobabReading:Aug 21 12:20
zoobabhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/23/mastodon-is-oppressive/Aug 21 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Mastodon is Actually a Lot Worse Than Twitter When it Comes to Free Speech. Avoid It.Aug 21 12:20
zoobabI was right, we need something based on FreenetAug 21 12:20
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XRevan86zoobab: schestowitz is currently on pleroma.siteAug 21 12:23
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schestowitzzoobab: yupAug 21 12:50
schestowitzzoobab: try pleromaAug 21 12:50
schestowitzkaniini_ will syndicate you hereAug 21 12:50
schestowitzin real timeAug 21 12:50
schestowitzwe're dumping twitterAug 21 12:50
schestowitzbecause they hang up on all the important apisAug 21 12:51
schestowitzcreate an account in pleroma.siteAug 21 12:51
schestowitzit's compatible with gnu social and mastodonAug 21 12:51
schestowitz#uspto still down.Aug 21 12:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An Insight into the Future of #TrueOS BSD and Project Trident http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114734 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2aa9aa0b-338d-401b-b7db-73963ee1db68]Aug 21 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031886226322849792Aug 21 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 An Insight into the Future of #TrueOS BSD and ProjectAug 21 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 TridentAug 21 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/x60iw8SQcg (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 13:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Insight into the Future of TrueOS BSD and Project Trident | Tux MachinesAug 21 13:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031887998982541313Aug 21 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                 8 Feature Rich Image Viewers for LinuxAug 21 13:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/pNYfvuWKzU (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 13:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Feature Rich Image Viewers for Linux | Tux MachinesAug 21 13:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #KDevelop 5.2.4 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114736 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0810f528-9417-48a1-b95b-9c05f39ee1d8]Aug 21 14:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031888795296309248Aug 21 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 #KDevelop 5.2.4 releasedAug 21 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/CcwXidetGP (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 5.2.4 released | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031891362126475266Aug 21 14:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #Robolinux 9.3 Raptor - Bird of prey?Aug 21 14:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/xquyOWFTl5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux 9.3 Raptor - Bird of prey? | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031891693270970368Aug 21 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosAug 21 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/SSIKUqGnWo (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes Public http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114740 [https://pleroma.site/objects/810c7b61-3ed3-4328-920c-4b8d69dbb505]Aug 21 14:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031893764518760450Aug 21 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 #Qt5 Screenshot Tool #FlameShot 0.6.0 Adds Pin And TextAug 21 14:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Tools,  https://t.co/iefaM5AUZY (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:23
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt5 Screenshot Tool FlameShot 0.6.0 Adds Pin And Text Tools, More | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference and Another Linux Foundation Event in Dallas http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114741 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a807cca9-6385-47f0-bfa1-e29cd7055de0]Aug 21 14:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031894550212739072Aug 21 14:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes PublicAug 21 14:27
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/qLr1kCJZp6 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:27
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes Public | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Nintendo #Wii on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114742 [https://pleroma.site/objects/11a8f7d3-31d0-436b-af8d-39f17c488a98]Aug 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031895453518966784Aug 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference and Another LinuxAug 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Foundation Event in DallasAug 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/HlD19n65C4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2018 Linux Plumbers Conference and Another Linux Foundation Event in Dallas | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031895907644596226Aug 21 14:30
TweetTuxMachines                 #Nintendo #Wii on LinuxAug 21 14:30
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/GY80fFoif2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:30
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nintendo Wii on Linux | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:30
*TweetTuxMachines @Infoneticadicas favourited '#Nintendo #Wii on Linux https://t.co/GY80fFoif2...'Aug 21 14:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #LinuxAIO – Test All The Ubuntu Flavours at Once http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114743 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3459fefe-da87-4ae2-8320-c31641adfe12]Aug 21 14:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Security Things in #Linux 4.18 and Embrace of Newer #GCC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114744 #gnu #kernel [https://pleroma.site/objects/25777819-dc7f-449c-b0b7-ec739052a622]Aug 21 14:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031896747176390656Aug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #LinuxAIO – Test All The Ubuntu Flavours at OnceAug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/60tCJ30C7u (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LinuxAIO – Test All The Ubuntu Flavours at Once | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031902188019232769Aug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines                 #Security Things in #Linux 4.18 and Embrace of Newer #GCCAug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/LdJk1cgY7e (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:54
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Things in Linux 4.18 and Embrace of Newer GCC | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @owlbelief retweeted @tuxmachines: '#Security Things in #Linux 4.18 and Embrace of...'Aug 21 14:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Impact Of The CPU Frequency Scaling Governor On AMD Threadripper 2990WX Linux Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114745 [https://pleroma.site/objects/123ee10f-f5e2-498f-b9e7-9b1ba2102f74]Aug 21 14:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031902519541157894Aug 21 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 The Impact Of The CPU Frequency Scaling Governor On AMDAug 21 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Threadripper 2990WX Linux PerformanceAug 21 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/zRderFhDrs (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 14:56
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Impact Of The CPU Frequency Scaling Governor On AMD Threadripper 2990WX Linux Performance | Tux MachinesAug 21 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031903703635124224Aug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines                 #Freespire 4.0 ReleasedAug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/mzuD0LPdg6 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Freespire 4.0 Released | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:06
*TweetTuxMachines @Infoneticadicas favourited 'Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes Public...'Aug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Infoneticadicas/status/1031905272032182277Aug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes PublicAug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines @Infoneticadicas   https://t.co/qLr1kCJZp6 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:06
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Opera Has a New Release, Goes Public | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:06
*TweetTuxMachines @Infoneticadicas favourited '#Qt5 Screenshot Tool #FlameShot 0.6.0 Adds Pin And...'Aug 21 15:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Infoneticadicas/status/1031905297516965893Aug 21 15:10
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Qt5 Screenshot Tool #FlameShot 0.6.0 Adds Pin And TextAug 21 15:10
TweetTuxMachines @Infoneticadicas  Tools,  https://t.co/iefaM5AUZY (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:10
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt5 Screenshot Tool FlameShot 0.6.0 Adds Pin And Text Tools, More | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Libratbag + Piper Allow For Great Logitech Gaming Mouse Support On Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114748 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ffd77a2f-bbad-4faa-95f2-f7767e50c95e]Aug 21 15:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031906421858873345Aug 21 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 #Graphics in #Linux #Kernel 4.18 and #Mesa 18.2 ComingAug 21 15:12
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/MstiPxAUDB (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:12
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux Kernel 4.18 and Mesa 18.2 Coming | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Windows Holes, Proprietary Cardiograph Device Vulnerabilities and FOSS Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114749 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1d6a8b20-00dd-4c14-8b34-6610444a06e6]Aug 21 15:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031906778206928896Aug 21 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 #Libratbag + Piper Allow For Great Logitech Gaming MouseAug 21 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Support On LinuxAug 21 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/KyFtPKgOYM (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:14
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Libratbag + Piper Allow For Great Logitech Gaming Mouse Support On Linux | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Git 2.19 on the Way http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114750 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5d505d7e-f1d6-47df-a014-606e5ee5e8c4]Aug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031907227173576704Aug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Security: Windows Holes, Proprietary Cardiograph DeviceAug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerabilities and FOSS PatchesAug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/WDzweUZGsC (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines Aug 21 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Windows Holes, Proprietary Cardiograph Device Vulnerabilities and FOSS Patches | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031908297975242753Aug 21 15:29
TweetTuxMachines                 #Git 2.19 on the WayAug 21 15:29
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/GPeqjr0UDb (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.19 on the Way | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031916455619637248Aug 21 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                 #Games LeftoversAug 21 15:55
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/BttGa2Vgz5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 15:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 21 15:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031917743879151616Aug 21 16:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Mozilla on Fellows, Software Patents and Volunteer Add-onAug 21 16:45
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/qWTVqhyabN (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 16:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla on Fellows, Software Patents and Volunteer Add-on | Tux MachinesAug 21 16:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: True Believerhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114754 compliments there to @glynmoody [https://pleroma.site/objects/b9132d22-22e4-49f2-bc94-03c831423904]Aug 21 16:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031930115335380992Aug 21 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 #Android Leftovers https://t.co/diJ39rLaZNAug 21 16:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 16:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesAug 21 16:54
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top Linux Applications For Office Usehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114755 [https://pleroma.site/objects/294163fe-a1d7-4316-bf3e-6047cf326fd5]Aug 21 16:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031932349708156929Aug 21 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 True BelieverAug 21 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/tRICCtbJlH (www.tuxmachines.org) complimentsAug 21 16:59
TweetTuxMachines                 there to @glynmoodyAug 21 16:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | True Believer | Tux MachinesAug 21 17:00
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kaniini_yes, i would avoid mastodon.  a vocal subset of the user community there are concern trolls who will jump into your threads and tell you how you should be doing thingsAug 21 17:26
kaniini_i was literally compared to hitler today for giving users too much freedom to configure their own experiencesAug 21 17:39
kaniini_apparently you must conform to mastodon standard or elseAug 21 17:39
XRevan86kaniini_: Ah, yes, Hitler is famous for that.Aug 21 17:40
kaniini_yes, too much freedomAug 21 17:41
XRevan86kaniini_: You know them anarchistsAug 21 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031967214931460096Aug 21 19:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Today in TechrightsAug 21 19:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/drAQWFWC2p (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesAug 21 19:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1031968737690349568Aug 21 19:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Today in TechrightsAug 21 19:35
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    https://t.co/drAQWFWC2p (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 19:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031976889378906112Aug 21 19:59
TweetTuxMachines                 #Python wriggles onward without its headAug 21 19:59
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/TmiafG4atg (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 19:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python wriggles onward without its head | Tux MachinesAug 21 19:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/ComputaSciWiz/status/1031979195302326272Aug 21 20:00
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Git 2.19 on the WayAug 21 20:00
TweetTuxMachines @ComputaSciWiz   https://t.co/GPeqjr0UDb (error)Aug 21 20:00
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schestowitzkaniini: any chance of easily increasing message lengths for the bot?Aug 21 20:01
kaniiniIRC only allows frames of 512 charsAug 21 20:01
kaniiniand only 380 chars are guaranteed for channelsAug 21 20:02
kaniinidoing multiple lines for long messages would cause the bot to floodAug 21 20:02
schestowitzOK, cheersAug 21 20:04
schestowitzthat's what the other bot resorted toAug 21 20:04
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schestowitzlinks shorteners would be even worse as they expire one dayAug 21 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/ComputaSciWiz/status/1031979253758406657Aug 21 20:05
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    #Graphics in #Linux #Kernel 4.18 and #Mesa 18.2 ComingAug 21 20:05
TweetTuxMachines @ComputaSciWiz  https://t.co/MstiPxAUDB (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics in Linux Kernel 4.18 and Mesa 18.2 Coming | Tux MachinesAug 21 20:05
schestowitzkaniini: alright, so I think I've decided to just abbreviate my messages where possibleAug 21 20:08
schestowitzto avoid long urls also if possible, although sometimes there's no way around their CMSAug 21 20:08
kaniinii can make it expand to 2-3 lines if we need toAug 21 20:09
kaniiniwe need to be careful thoughAug 21 20:09
schestowitzI guess this channel mostly has Linux stuff, which isn't much anywayAug 21 20:14
schestowitz-social channel has been flooded like that by streams since 2011Aug 21 20:15
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kaniiniyeah the concern is hitting freenode's Excess Flood limit (20 lines in 3 seconds)Aug 21 20:19
schestowitzthe other bot never exceeded itAug 21 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031980520316522509Aug 21 20:26
TweetTuxMachines                 4 Neat New #GTK Themes for Your Linux DesktopAug 21 20:26
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/WplF9Mteis (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 20:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Neat New GTK Themes for Your Linux Desktop | Tux MachinesAug 21 20:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031985705847799809Aug 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 #Android Leftovers https://t.co/42EgtpNSXLAug 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 20:38
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Looking for a new OS? Try these #Debian Linux-based systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114764 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0c1d15a4-1e39-4081-9741-7467f1c29f7f]Aug 21 20:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031989010636435459Aug 21 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 OSS: https://t.co/fqkdTHxPze, (Foundries.io) Mastodon,Aug 21 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Bonita, NCC Group, Akraino Edge Stack and Progress SparkAug 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Foundries.io | Foundries.ioAug 21 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 ToolkitAug 21 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/3MLQOVDnaB (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 20:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS: Foundries.io, Mastodon, Bonita, NCC Group, Akraino Edge Stack and Progress Spark Toolkit | Tux MachinesAug 21 20:42
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/1sr13L8.gifvAug 21 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | .Aug 21 20:47
schestowitzhttps://www.darkreading.com/analytics/semmle-launches-globally-with-$21-million-series-b-investment-led-by-accel-partners/d/d-id/1332597Aug 21 21:10
schestowitzsnake oil? https://sdtimes.com/softwaredev/semmle-emerges-with-new-approach-to-software-engineering-analytics/Aug 21 21:10
MinceRlooks like static code analysis to meAug 21 21:13
XRevan86Did somebody say cppcheck or PVS-Studio?Aug 21 21:18
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021834Aug 21 21:27
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MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/4mdwnf.jpgAug 21 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1031989823853215745Aug 21 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Looking for a new OS? Try these #Debian Linux-basedAug 21 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                 systemsAug 21 22:11
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/bXq9iWsYMn (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 21 22:11
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021827Aug 21 22:32
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XRevan86MinceR: a classical race conditionAug 21 22:48
XRevan86MinceR: He said it *before* the thing is revealed yet failed anyway.Aug 21 22:49
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021914Aug 21 22:50
XRevan86https://cs10.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm_an/2018-02_3/1518566762156956245.gif not a fake? huhAug 21 22:54
MinceR:)Aug 21 22:54
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021815Aug 21 23:41
MinceRhttps://www.theonion.com/peta-condemns-bbc-for-trapping-thousands-of-endangered-1828504128Aug 21 23:42
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802185Aug 22 00:24
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TweetTuxMachines                 How to Burn Blu-ray Disks in Ubuntu/LinuxAug 22 07:37
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TweetTuxMachines                 Security and FUDAug 22 07:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032342032117899265Aug 22 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Latest About Crostini: GNU/Linux Software on ChromebooksAug 22 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/2JwLbkTPng (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032344031563587587Aug 22 20:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Stable kernels 4.18.4, 4.17.18, 4.14.66, 4.9.123 andAug 22 20:14
TweetTuxMachines                 4.4.151 https://t.co/0KpUhLZ8iD (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 20:14
TweetTuxMachines                 #linuxAug 22 20:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032345067028180994Aug 22 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 5 open source tools for container securityAug 22 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4LomJd4x5X (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032345736824930305Aug 22 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 9 flowchart and diagramming tools for LinuxAug 22 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7FubtUIupy (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032346308353433600Aug 22 20:21
TweetTuxMachines                 #ChromeOS 69 Will Finally Bring Linux Apps toAug 22 20:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks, Night Light Support https://t.co/G09Wl4vwzxAug 22 20:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032346894540922880Aug 22 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE Plasma on ARM Laptop #PinebookAug 22 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Yq2oLlkOT5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 20:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032348559998418945Aug 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 GNOME 3.30 Brings Back Desktop Icons with NautilusAug 22 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Integration, Wayland Support https://t.co/OOzuYhNiHMAug 22 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032349452869296129Aug 22 20:35
TweetTuxMachines                 My 3 favorite Linux releases https://t.co/Hpeg5CRqK8Aug 22 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032350486727409664Aug 22 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.6 Beta now availableAug 22 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines                 Wine and a Lot More Coverage Today About Wine-basedAug 22 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 “Proton”Aug 22 20:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032357461175484417Aug 22 21:05
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA 396.54 Linux Driver Offers Big Performance BoostAug 22 21:05
TweetTuxMachines                 For Frequent Gamers https://t.co/ftavUrkWqdAug 22 21:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032358007039029249Aug 22 21:06
TweetTuxMachines                 #Android Leftovers https://t.co/1NxBDucKUfAug 22 21:06
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TweetTuxMachines                 After Adopting LXQt, Lubuntu Is Switching to Wayland byAug 22 21:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Default for Ubuntu 20.10 https://t.co/UjZ6TI1P03Aug 22 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032360332608630785Aug 22 21:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Games: Crazy Justice, 'FCK DRM', Molecats, The OtherAug 22 21:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Half, PULSAR: Lost Colony, War BrokersAug 22 21:18
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/R4wPqMt7s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 22 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines                 Linus Torvalds On Linux 4.19: "This Merge Window Has BeenAug 22 21:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Horrible"Aug 22 21:47
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: "Steam vastly improves life for Linux gamers" (and Lots More "Proton" Coverage) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114798 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2536ab41-d422-4907-866e-3233833fefa9]Aug 23 05:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, OpenSSH, CVE-2018-5390, Meltdown and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114799 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0ace1b35-9f49-4797-9970-88ea42b6bde7]Aug 23 05:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #BroadbandForum http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114800 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4450968c-0802-4164-8b69-89df3aa72ddb]Aug 23 05:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google confirms many older Chromebooks won't get Linux apps, including the 2015 Chromebook Pixelhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114801 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d39311ef-f3d9-45b8-b8e7-bd2a72e49d97]Aug 23 06:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Daniel Vetter on Generic 2D Acceleration API in Linux's DRM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114802 [https://pleroma.site/objects/62504c06-800a-41a6-9862-c2e62ec8d66e]Aug 23 06:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Linux Development and a New@ LinuxFoundation Member, Windmill Enterprise http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114803 [https://pleroma.site/objects/53b3fdd1-e3da-4c4d-a12f-2eb303078321]Aug 23 06:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Mesa 18.2.0 RC4 and #NVIDIA News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114804 [https://pleroma.site/objects/838d725c-fedf-4cbf-a3a3-c4ae8db84a27]Aug 23 06:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Why It Is Crucial To Linux History and New Event Coverage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114805 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3a8143f2-4a54-464c-a84d-4a4f484362ee]Aug 23 06:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Metrics Project Comes to the Cloud Native Computing Foundationhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114806 [https://pleroma.site/objects/145ea707-0ffd-49c2-8055-827d18a6dddb]Aug 23 06:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat and Fedora: US IT Modernisation, Red Hat's Strategy, Maxta, New Product Security OpenPGP Key, Bodhi 3.9.0, Flock 2018 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114807 [https://pleroma.site/objects/faaf00c2-d796-4120-9341-800695627d6b]Aug 23 07:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Entryism and Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114808 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a692bcee-0b71-4a4c-958f-e5e6c20ae19f]Aug 23 07:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Devuan is a Linux Distro Without systemd. Why Should You Use It?http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114809 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3f1751b-6011-456f-953c-1c727b7433ad]Aug 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032515980973559809Aug 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Entryism and OpenwashingAug 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/HnWev32X5U (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 07:42
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Entryism and Openwashing | Tux MachinesAug 23 07:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software Freedom Ensures the True Software Commonshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114810 #freesw [https://pleroma.site/objects/6f84688d-40e5-441e-8d53-b9f0de58de3a]Aug 23 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032518316177457153Aug 23 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 #Devuan is a Linux Distro Without systemd. Why Should YouAug 23 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Use It?Aug 23 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/zjSkoc5YQc (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 07:46
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan is a Linux Distro Without systemd. Why Should You Use It? | Tux MachinesAug 23 07:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Funding for #FSConservancy and BackYourStack's Efforts to Crowdfund FOSShttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114811 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4a2a5f99-3645-40de-9a78-f72c1140f9d1]Aug 23 07:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032519383992725504Aug 23 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Software Freedom Ensures the True Software CommonsAug 23 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/qFUnED8e0L (www.tuxmachines.org) #freeswAug 23 07:49
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software Freedom Ensures the True Software Commons | Tux MachinesAug 23 07:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #AMD #Threadripper Performance on GNU/Linux and #DragonFlyBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114812 #bsd #unix #gnu #linux #benchmark [https://pleroma.site/objects/7908002f-c051-4b0c-882f-fc8ef4e597bc]Aug 23 07:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032520021531131904Aug 23 07:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Funding for #FSConservancy and BackYourStack's Efforts toAug 23 07:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Crowdfund FOSSAug 23 07:51
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/5LmKqnPoCn (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Funding for FS Conservancy and BackYourStack's Efforts to Crowdfund FOSS | Tux MachinesAug 23 07:51
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 07:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Videos & New Opportunities http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114813 #flatpak [https://pleroma.site/objects/3bf14835-718f-4f58-9405-46e67417e72d]Aug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032520484561346561Aug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #AMD #Threadripper Performance on GNU/Linux andAug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 #DragonFlyBSDAug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/SadDEWp8RE (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Threadripper Performance on GNU/Linux and DragonFlyBSD | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032523726137507840Aug 23 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                 New Videos & New OpportunitiesAug 23 08:06
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/EHkJaL1I7e (www.tuxmachines.org) #flatpakAug 23 08:06
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos & New Opportunities | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Getting back into Outreachy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114814 [https://pleroma.site/objects/180a0e48-344a-48cf-afa7-0d305f652458]Aug 23 08:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032527364616544256Aug 23 08:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Getting back into OutreachyAug 23 08:20
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/bwPP1K0lSa (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 08:20
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting back into Outreachy | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New #Intel Caching Feature Considered for Mainlinehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114815 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2f0c16b9-d7ed-4c33-ad72-d8ec783eeecd]Aug 23 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Septor_Linux/status/1032528004193443840Aug 23 08:42
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Mozilla: Notes, Dweb, VR, Privacy, Competition andAug 23 08:42
TweetTuxMachines @Septor_Linux   Getting Rid of Old Extensions/AddonsAug 23 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/OBGqyKLHJh (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 08:42
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Notes, Dweb, VR, Privacy, Competition and Getting Rid of Old Extensions/Addons | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA 396.54 Linux Drivers Show Up to 20% Performance Increase After Memory Leak Fixhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114816 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebb13950-06c6-492f-b3ba-9eb2fcd90278]Aug 23 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032533423099928576Aug 23 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 New #Intel Caching Feature Considered for MainlineAug 23 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/ujZWU4YXMR (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 08:50
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Intel Caching Feature Considered for Mainline | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032535235479699456Aug 23 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 NVIDIA 396.54 Linux Drivers Show Up to 20% PerformanceAug 23 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Increase After Memory Leak FixAug 23 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/3jQxA6gR82 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 08:55
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 396.54 Linux Drivers Show Up to 20% Performance Increase After Memory Leak Fix | Tux MachinesAug 23 08:55
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #UBOS Linux beta 15: status LEDs, Pagekite and Staff improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114818 [https://pleroma.site/objects/052be318-22c6-4796-883a-95556cd95e6d]Aug 23 11:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bolster your DevOps infrastructure with open source tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114819 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3a2374b9-1ef8-47b4-aad3-105e1fbfc136]Aug 23 11:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114820 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f68c52a1-d1dc-4654-b02a-b5a8ca400284]Aug 23 11:28
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #OpenHardware and ARM on Servers/HPChttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114822 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3e2ddcf4-186a-47c7-b999-18e96151e4c5]Aug 23 11:54
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114823 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e2ec37d-3f80-412e-9851-903f43335d32]Aug 23 11:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 23/8/2018: Mesa 18.2 RC4 Released, Bodhi Linux 5.0.0 Released http://techrights.org/2018/08/23/bodhi-linux-5-0-0-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/e849e67f-7cb0-4cc9-b3ce-3ef07bd63ced]Aug 23 12:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1032599605509320704Aug 23 13:38
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Links 23/8/2018: Mesa 18.2 RC4 Released, Bodhi LinuxAug 23 13:38
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    5.0.0 Released https://t.co/oUGsQJiuwT (techrights.org)Aug 23 13:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/8/2018: Mesa 18.2 RC4 Released, Bodhi Linux 5.0.0 Released | TechrightsAug 23 13:38
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 8 New #Raspbian Features to Start Using on Your Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114825 [https://pleroma.site/objects/656b43cc-1050-4f04-a8f0-777c0f989fb5]Aug 23 14:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Latest in #digiKam and #Kube Developmenthttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114826 [https://pleroma.site/objects/265bdecd-cc32-4d4f-8ff2-957a59c6d2d1]Aug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032623478334267392Aug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 8 New #Raspbian Features to Start Using on Your RaspberryAug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 PiAug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/hyjYPNVmb9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 New Raspbian Features to Start Using on Your Raspberry Pi | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032632158379233280Aug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 KDE: Latest in #digiKam and #Kube DevelopmentAug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/h2VipxUr4E (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Latest in digiKam and Kube Development | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/Syswork/status/1032632224460558336Aug 23 15:15
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    After Adopting LXQt, Lubuntu Is Switching to Wayland byAug 23 15:15
TweetTuxMachines @Syswork        Default for Ubuntu 20.10 https://t.co/UjZ6TI1P03Aug 23 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:15
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | After Adopting LXQt, Lubuntu Is Switching to Wayland by Default for Ubuntu 20.10 | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032634602135924736Aug 23 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Richard Hughes and His Work on Firmware Blobs (LVFS)Aug 23 15:33
TweetTuxMachines                  https://t.co/PgWDoCsZzq (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:33
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Richard Hughes and His Work on Firmware Blobs (LVFS) | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: DXVK, ATOM RPG, Fort Triumph, Lazy Galaxy: Rebel Story, Trüberbrook, Mono/Unity Problemshttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114829 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ceaa8153-b383-4729-84c0-256968ecca03]Aug 23 15:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032636972739776512Aug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines                 today's howtosAug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/OZf8WEXEyB (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines Aug 23 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     https://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/1032638537483661312Aug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Games: DXVK, ATOM RPG, Fort Triumph, Lazy Galaxy: RebelAug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Story, Trüberbrook, Mono/Unity ProblemsAug 23 15:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Av9sGIWrgl (www.tuxmachines.org)Aug 23 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: DXVK, ATOM RPG, Fort Triumph, Lazy Galaxy: Rebel Story, Trüberbrook, Mono/Unity Problems | Tux MachinesAug 23 15:40
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XRevan86https://nplus1.ru/news/2018/08/23/kalashnikov A concept of an electric carAug 23 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nplus1.ru | «Калашников» представил концепт электромобиля на базе ИЖ-21252Aug 23 16:47
XRevan86definitely leavs an impressionAug 23 16:47
XRevan86https://www.ixbt.com/img//x1600/n1/news/2018/7/4/cfde065c-3c90-4f8e-954c-1328ac7a5258_large.jpegAug 23 16:47
XRevan86Warning: once seen it cannot be unseen.Aug 23 16:48
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021652Aug 23 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 23 18:45
XRevan86MinceR: It's good to be ambitious.Aug 23 18:48
abeNd-orgunless you have a boss who punishes you for being proactiveAug 23 18:50
MinceRthen you'll be rid of that boss, one way or anotherAug 23 18:50
MinceRhttps://perens.com/2018/08/22/new-intel-microcode-license-restriction-is-not-acceptable/Aug 23 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Publishes Microcode Security Patches, No Benchmarking Or Comparison Allowed! – Bruce PerensAug 23 18:51
XRevan86abeNd-org: Too bad for the boss.Aug 23 18:52
abeNd-orghaha, not if the middle management boss is "family" of higher upsAug 23 18:55
XRevan86abeNd-org: Too bad for the company.Aug 23 18:57
XRevan86And if it's tied to the government, then too bad for the government :PAug 23 19:00
XRevan86and for the people whom this government governsAug 23 19:00
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021635Aug 23 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 23 19:17
XRevan86MinceR: I don't see clouds behind itAug 23 19:24
MinceRsome flat earthers apparently do :>Aug 23 19:26
XRevan86I wonder how they imagine itAug 23 19:27
XRevan86Sun as a flat disc floating in the airAug 23 19:27
XRevan86maybe on a string pulled by a reptiloid or G-dAug 23 19:27
MinceRmaybe the Sun gets to be a sphere, who knowsAug 23 19:28
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 23 19:28
MinceRor oblate spheroidAug 23 19:28
XRevan86MinceR: Then how come it is seen as a completely homogenous disc? :PAug 23 19:28
MinceRask the flat earthersAug 23 19:31
XRevan86A sphere cut in half and we see the flat part probably %)Aug 23 19:33
XRevan86and the other part is the SwiborgAug 23 19:33
cubexyzoh no, not more flat earth crapAug 23 19:51
MinceR:)Aug 23 19:53
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/PLK39ig.jpgAug 23 19:54
cubexyzI never heard this nonsense back in the 1980s or 1990sAug 23 19:54
XRevan86cubexyz: It was more contained.Aug 23 19:55
XRevan86It's hard to tell how much of it is real, trolling or memeingAug 23 19:57
XRevan86The Poe's law in actionAug 23 19:58
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MinceRjudging by election results in the last few years, way too many people are seriously this stupidAug 23 20:00
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cubexyzwell, the choices were lousey, and I bet a lot of people didn't even bother votingAug 23 20:00
XRevan86You're probably not talking about Russia %)Aug 23 20:04
MinceRthere were elections in russia? :>Aug 23 20:07
XRevan86MinceR: Depends on what you mean by that %)Aug 23 20:07
MinceR:>Aug 23 20:13
cubexyzI seem to remember Kasparov trying to run for officeAug 23 20:13
cubexyzthen later he said Russian elections were a "charade"Aug 23 20:14
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cubexyzI think he was the candiate for the opposition coalitionAug 23 20:16
XRevan86cubexyz: Grudinin in the latest elections ran from CPRFAug 23 20:21
XRevan86cubexyz: After which he said that he admits that Alexei Navalny was rightAug 23 20:21
XRevan86in that the elections were falsified from top to bottomAug 23 20:22
XRevan86And Alexei Navalny was not permitted to runAug 23 20:22
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't really like KasparovAug 23 20:23
cubexyzhow come?Aug 23 20:23
XRevan86he's way on the rightAug 23 20:23
cubexyzahAug 23 20:23
XRevan86The Republican kind of person, basically.Aug 23 20:24
XRevan86Not that he is wrong here.Aug 23 20:24
XRevan86cubexyz: The words "the opposition coalition" rubbed me the wrong way :)Aug 23 20:25
XRevan86in the contextAug 23 20:25
XRevan86Ksenia Sobchak also tried to be the leader of the oppositionAug 23 20:26
XRevan86that was annoyingAug 23 20:26
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cubexyzis there no term limits for Russian presidents?Aug 23 20:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Two terms in a rowAug 23 20:27
XRevan86Putin 4 years, Putin 4 years, Medvedev 4 years (who changes the constitution to extend the term), Putin 6 years, Putin 6 yearsAug 23 20:29
XRevan86cubexyz: ^ how it's playedAug 23 20:29
XRevan86for 4 years Putin was a mere prime ministerAug 23 20:30
XRevan86Dmitry Medvedev didn't run a second time, which also tells something %)Aug 23 20:32
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XRevan86Let's talk about Intel insteadAug 23 21:20
XRevan86I think they did the stupidest thing ever, and now are going to get what they have coming.Aug 23 21:20
MinceRwhich of the many stupid things they've done are you referring to?Aug 23 21:29
cubexyzhard to avoid intelAug 23 21:29
XRevan86MinceR: Microcode licensingAug 23 21:58
MinceRah, yesAug 23 21:58
XRevan86… the latestAug 23 21:58
MinceRi hope amd does not follow them for onceAug 23 21:58
MinceRit certainly makes me less willing to buy intelAug 23 21:59
MinceRever againAug 23 21:59
XRevan86My laptop kinda broke, so I'm an AMD user now automatically.Aug 23 21:59
MinceR:>Aug 23 21:59
MinceRwell, at least intel innovatedAug 23 21:59
MinceRpity it was the invention of the general-purpose computer constrained licensing to be a non-general-purpose computerAug 23 22:00
XRevan86Also no UEFI now.Aug 23 22:01
MinceR:)Aug 23 22:02
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DaemonFC[m]https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-public-schools-cps-investigating-king-high-school-dress-code-barring-dressing-provocatively-sexual-abuse/Aug 23 23:15
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DaemonFC[m]A lot of the charters make kids wear the same color uniform every day because giving them the choice of color means that gangs form.Aug 23 23:16
XRevan86They should also teach children how to march.Aug 23 23:18
MinceRwith goose-stepsAug 23 23:19
MinceRalso, do i have to go there and claim i'm being provoked by every dress, especially uniforms?Aug 23 23:19
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XRevan86great nickAug 23 23:25
DaemonFC[m]This wasn't a problem 20 years ago because nobody would risk pissing off their parents by wearing this crap to school. At least, where I grew up.Aug 23 23:55
DaemonFC[m]My generation is proving to be awful parents. Lets their kids walk all over them.Aug 23 23:55
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Yeah, there was no such crap in the Soviet UnionAug 23 23:56
XRevan86then the Union fell and kids started wearing whateverAug 23 23:56
MinceRsee, this is what you get if you don't keep your kids in cages and on leash.Aug 23 23:59
DaemonFC[m]If my parents got angry with me, I got the belt.Aug 24 00:00
MinceRwhat, no scourge?Aug 24 00:00
MinceRnot even a whip?Aug 24 00:00
DaemonFC[m]So I was at least smart enough to not shove whatever I was doing in their face.Aug 24 00:00
MinceRspoiled childAug 24 00:00
XRevan86I've heard that psychologists believe that to have no positive effects.Aug 24 00:01
MinceRobviously, they're too liberal :>Aug 24 00:01
DaemonFC[m]Meh, I guess I just got better at hiding the drinking, the pot smoking, the sex...Aug 24 00:01
DaemonFC[m]:PAug 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Didn't help that they sent me to Christian school. Ugh.Aug 24 00:02
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I see some great parenting there.Aug 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]I ended up taking the high school equivalency exam because I was being laughed out of job interviews.Aug 24 00:03
MinceRthey only accept cultist schools at job interviews?Aug 24 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, it couldn't have been THAT bad, at least for the stuff that they test. I scored wayhigher on the exam than the representative sample of (public) high school graduates.Aug 24 00:04
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: You are probably just a smart lad though :PAug 24 00:04
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: No, the Christian course was not accredited by the state.Aug 24 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Indiana doesn't require your parents to send you to a state accredited school.Aug 24 00:04
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I guess I got the last laugh, though.Aug 24 00:05
DaemonFC[m]The High School Diplomas are so meaningless now that employers generally give you their own test.Aug 24 00:06
MinceRicAug 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]To see if you're even worth the trouble of attempting to train to do the job...Aug 24 00:06
MinceRindiana didn't accredit any non-cultist schools?Aug 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The public and charter schools are accredited. Aug 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]But the private ones don't have to be.Aug 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: But, like I said, the accreditation process doesn't mean much in Indiana.Aug 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]You don't even need to be a teacher to teach some of the classes anymore.Aug 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]Like, I could be a History or Social Studies teacher in Indiana. Aug 24 00:08
DaemonFC[m]It's harder to get a job taking people's train tickets in Illinois than it is to get certain teaching positions in Indiana schools.Aug 24 00:08
MinceRhttp://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htmAug 24 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gutenberg.org | A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift - Free EbookAug 24 00:09
DaemonFC[m]That's how they solved the "teacher shortage", which they caused by cutting pay and benefits down to the bone, so most of the real teachers fled the states for ones that still think that education is a priority.Aug 24 00:09
DaemonFC[m]*stateAug 24 00:09
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It shouldn't be this way, but the quality of your education in the US is essentially a birth lottery.Aug 24 00:10
DaemonFC[m]Then again, now so is whether or not you get drinking water wih 1,500 times the EPA violating amount of lead.Aug 24 00:10
MinceRit will probably get worseAug 24 00:11
DaemonFC[m]The midwest has basically failed. Illinois gets by because it has Chicago, and that means there's still a tax base.Aug 24 00:11
MinceRas the fundamentalists get more and more powerAug 24 00:11
MinceRand get rid of all that pesky science educationAug 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The Fundamentalists don't have much pull at the state level in Illinois.Aug 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]There are some downstate crackpots, to be sure, but they're in the minority.Aug 24 00:12
MinceRthey have plenty of pull at the federal level, thoughAug 24 00:12
MinceRlike the VP and his orange-colored enablerAug 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yes, but the states are sovereign, so......Aug 24 00:12
MinceRare they? :>Aug 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Much of what Trump gets away with happens only because those states are complicit. Aug 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Like, he announces a waiver that lets states take away your Medicaid if you can't find work or won't submit to a drug test.Aug 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]And Kentucky applies for one.Aug 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]He's permitting states to do certain things, but he can't force the states to actually do most of those things.Aug 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]So living in Illinois is much different than living in Indiana, even though I'm only 30 miles away. Aug 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Most people notice the actions of the local and state governments more than the federal one. Aug 24 00:15
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: And the people in the poor and conservative states are stuck there.Aug 24 00:15
DaemonFC[m]They can't leave because they can't afford to live anywhere better.Aug 24 00:15
DaemonFC[m]So some of the disaster is "contained".Aug 24 00:16
DaemonFC[m]https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chief-financial-officer-brief-aldermen-10-billion-pension-bond-borrowing-plan-taxes/Aug 24 00:17
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DaemonFC[m]The time to borrow and invest in the stock market has come and gone.Aug 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]If they borrow $10 billion and invest it now, they'll be buying near the peak and they will lose 40 or 50% of it in the next year or two.Aug 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]They can't invest it in "safe" assets, because the city's borrowing rate is higher than what it will earn on Treasuries. Aug 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]This ends in disaster for taxpayers, one way or the other.Aug 24 00:19
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cubexyzXRevan86, you mentioned UEFI... is something happening with it?Aug 24 00:29
XRevan86cubexyz: No, just that my laptop won't charge again, so I've moved to a stationary PC.Aug 24 00:29
XRevan86Thus I have no UEFI anymore.Aug 24 00:30
XRevan86personal stuff (:Aug 24 00:30
cubexyzok, I figured intel wasn't going to replace UEFIAug 24 00:30
XRevan86cubexyz: No, in fact they're going to drop legacy boot support in 2020Aug 24 00:30
XRevan86not sure from where though, probably InsydeH2OAug 24 00:31
cubexyzI'm just thinking about freedos... there are many msdos programs that use BIOS callsAug 24 00:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Yeah, FreeDOS won't be bootable at all.Aug 24 00:34
cubexyzprobably people will have to go coreboot + seabios thenAug 24 00:34
XRevan86I'm personally more worried about the enforcement of Secure Boot though.Aug 24 00:35
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XRevan86Like I mentioned before, I've recently seen with my very eyes a laptop with no ability to disable Secure Boot.Aug 24 00:35
cubexyzwas that ASUS X553S?Aug 24 00:36
XRevan86at least it has the ability to add custom signing keys, yet that is pretty unpleasant.Aug 24 00:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Something like that, yes.Aug 24 00:37
cubexyzso you couldn't run freedos, aros, etc...Aug 24 00:37
XRevan86cubexyz: Or Void LinuxAug 24 00:37
XRevan86without first signing the bootloaderAug 24 00:38
XRevan86to be honest, I'm not sure what's the procedureAug 24 00:38
XRevan86So not only just non-UEFI stuff but non-signed UEFI stuff as wellAug 24 00:39
MinceRcoreboot is locked out by intel boot guardAug 24 00:40
MinceRstrange, my asus transformer 3 can disable restricted boot and can enable legacy bootAug 24 00:41
cubexyzall the chromebooks use coreboot...Aug 24 00:41
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not sure what's the pattern yetAug 24 00:41
cubexyzand you can turn on developer mode... replace chromeos with something elseAug 24 00:42
XRevan86I unfortunately didn't pay attention to which developer made the BIOS that was on that laptop.Aug 24 00:42
cubexyzI guess I could start hoarding BIOS motherboardsAug 24 00:44
MinceRhm, i wonder if it's possible to make bacon out of humansAug 24 00:44
XRevan86Though I suspect it was AMIAug 24 00:44
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XRevan86Yeah, most probably AMIAug 24 00:45
XRevan86definitely AMIAug 24 00:45
XRevan86https://youtu.be/s4Un_QpDoRQ it looked just like thisAug 24 00:46
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XRevan86Except instead of "Secure Boot Control" there was a setting for changing the Secure Boot keys.Aug 24 00:46
XRevan86On the tab "Security" that it.Aug 24 00:47
XRevan86MinceR: I take it yours has it.Aug 24 00:48
cubexyzXRevan86, the general problem is proprietary firmwareAug 24 00:48
MinceRdunnoAug 24 00:48
MinceRi didn't check the manufacturerAug 24 00:49
MinceRand i didn't try to change Restricted Boot keys, only to disable Restricted Boot and enable Legacy BootAug 24 00:49
MinceRand possibly also to disable the TPMAug 24 00:49
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XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, I don't think AMI has the option to disable UEFI boot.Aug 24 00:50
XRevan86MinceR: Only to have CSM optionally. So that you can still use it, yet UEFI boot entries will still be there.Aug 24 00:51
XRevan86And on that laptop with the enforced Secure Boot I remember seeing "Launch CSM" as an option, yet greyed out.Aug 24 00:51
XRevan86MinceR: So I'm curious what BIOS you have there %)Aug 24 00:52
XRevan86I got the impression from links that ASUS just always goes with AMI. But maybe not?Aug 24 00:52
XRevan86And on InsydeH2O one can switch between MBR boot and UEFI boot with an option in BIOS. No merger of boot entries there.Aug 24 00:54
XRevan86MinceR: Which sounds more like your case.Aug 24 00:54
MinceRnot sure about boot options, i don't have too many of thoseAug 24 00:55
MinceRi think sysresccd also has a uefi option but i wouldn't be able to tell from the menuAug 24 00:56
MinceRi don't think uefi boot is disabled per se, only restricted boot isAug 24 00:56
XRevan86> and enable Legacy BootAug 24 00:57
XRevan86Ah, I see, you meant as an option.Aug 24 00:57
cubexyzthe most coreboot friendly ASUS laptop is S96F (or Z96F)Aug 24 01:00
cubexyzprobably kind of oldAug 24 01:00
*XRevan86 is pretty upset with where things are going.Aug 24 01:01
*MinceR is tooAug 24 01:01
XRevan86Like that Android is going down.Aug 24 01:01
XRevan86Google is going to replace it with an OS that has literally no GPL in it.Aug 24 01:02
MinceR:(Aug 24 01:02
MinceRis that official?Aug 24 01:02
XRevan86MinceR: oh yesAug 24 01:02
XRevan86MinceR: They even have a dateAug 24 01:02
cubexyzFuchsia?Aug 24 01:02
MinceRurl?Aug 24 01:02
XRevan86cubexyz: yesAug 24 01:03
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XRevan86MinceR: https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-19/google-team-is-said-to-plot-android-successor-draw-skepticismAug 24 01:06
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MinceR>quietlyAug 24 01:08
XRevan86Yeah, not sure what they mean by thatAug 24 01:09
XRevan86that they didn't ad their repo?Aug 24 01:09
MinceR>have yet to sign off on any road map for FuchsiaAug 24 01:10
XRevan86The article I read was a little different %)Aug 24 01:10
MinceRlast time i checked there were little more than speculations regarding what devices Fuchsia is actually meant forAug 24 01:10
XRevan86MinceR: Armadillo hints a little though.Aug 24 01:11
MinceRarticle also contains some bullshit about crApple productsAug 24 01:11
XRevan86MinceR: Indeed.Aug 24 01:12
MinceRapparently bloomberg believes "security" means "having someone else have root on your computer"Aug 24 01:12
MinceRah well, i'll probably have to build an FPGA-based smartphone tooAug 24 01:13
XRevan86MinceR: So you have no problem with the "privacy" part? :)Aug 24 01:13
XRevan86sebsebseb will be most pleasedAug 24 01:13
MinceRi do have a problem with itAug 24 01:14
MinceRwithout security, it is impossible to have privacyAug 24 01:14
cubexyzeveryone will switch to Sun Ultra 10 :)Aug 24 01:14
MinceRmaybe they haven't read the news about people breaking into hypeCloudAug 24 01:15
MinceRand publishing private photosAug 24 01:15
XRevan86We now just need to make Sun build enough for everyoneAug 24 01:15
MinceRsun is deadAug 24 01:15
MinceRand lawsuit larry is pissing on its corpseAug 24 01:15
MinceRshitting, tooAug 24 01:15
XRevan86MinceR: Next thing you'll tell me OpenOffice.org is dead :PAug 24 01:15
MinceR:>Aug 24 01:15
MinceRisn't it called Apache OpenOffice now?Aug 24 01:16
schestowitzhehAug 24 01:16
schestowitznot many usersAug 24 01:16
XRevan86MinceR: New developers, new name, new licence, practically a different thing.Aug 24 01:16
XRevan86MinceR: And it's also pretty much dead %)Aug 24 01:16
MinceR>Google’s chief smartphone rival, iPhone maker Apple IncAug 24 01:18
MinceRah yes, the "smartphone rival" which has yet to sell a smartphoneAug 24 01:19
MinceRmakes me wonder if they're also a search engine rivalAug 24 01:19
XRevan86MinceR: It's a smartphone in a regard that it's smarter than the designated demographicAug 24 01:19
MinceRlolAug 24 01:19
MinceRin that regard, anything is a smartphoneAug 24 01:20
XRevan86MinceR: smartphone, smart tablet, smart watch, you name itAug 24 01:20
XRevan86smart TV, smart homeAug 24 01:20
MinceRsmart rocks in a smart bucketAug 24 01:20
cubexyzyou forgot: smart pet rockAug 24 01:21
MinceRsmart gravelAug 24 01:21
cubexyzwith flashing LEDs :)Aug 24 01:21
MinceRno LEDsAug 24 01:21
XRevan86MinceR: Sounds like Mac ProAug 24 01:21
MinceRLEDs confuse the target demographicAug 24 01:21
XRevan86the smart bucket partAug 24 01:21
MinceRwell, maybe an LED that lights up a crApple logoAug 24 01:21
XRevan86schestowitz: not many users of what?Aug 24 01:21
MinceRmaybe even flashingAug 24 01:22
schestowitzOOoAug 24 01:22
schestowitzOracle OooAug 24 01:22
schestowitzOOooAug 24 01:22
schestowitzaka AOOoAug 24 01:22
MinceRthat's OOo or AOO :>Aug 24 01:22
XRevan86schestowitz: I've seen some Шindows users with itAug 24 01:22
XRevan86schestowitz: I tried to deliver LibreOffice where I could :)Aug 24 01:23
MinceRsince "Apache" was added, the ".org" is not necessary to distinguish it from the litigous ISP (or whatever those are)Aug 24 01:23
XRevan86LibreOffice looks a lot better on Windows than Apache OpenOfficeAug 24 01:23
MinceRunfortunately, it also pushes OOXML more, doesn't it? :>Aug 24 01:23
XRevan86since apparently LibreOffice did at least some work in that regard and Apache did no workAug 24 01:23
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not sure the regular folk know the name OOXMLAug 24 01:24
XRevan86also it's Office Open XML, not Open Office XML :)Aug 24 01:24
MinceRsure, but didn't LO grow out of Go-OO?Aug 24 01:24
XRevan86MinceR: Indeed.Aug 24 01:25
MinceRi'm glad i don't rely on AOO nor LOAug 24 01:25
XRevan86MinceR: Is that bad?Aug 24 01:25
MinceRthough gnumeric is also going to shitAug 24 01:25
XRevan86MinceR: I thought you meant the name of OOXMLAug 24 01:26
XRevan86MinceR: LO and AOO both default to OpenDocument *of course*Aug 24 01:26
MinceRi guess i'll need sc or somethingAug 24 01:26
XRevan86and display an honest warning when the user tries to save to anything elseAug 24 01:26
MinceRwell, that's nice, at leastAug 24 01:27
XRevan86something like "out shitty support for this shitty format is shitty, so your document will turn to shit if you think you have the shits to save it to it"Aug 24 01:27
MinceRlolAug 24 01:28
XRevan86So a warning that shit will hit the fan.Aug 24 01:30
XRevan86Without knowing their history, it is odd seeing that Apache OpenOffice is not copyleft and LibreOffice is.Aug 24 01:33
XRevan86Ugh, Gtk keeps making beep noisesAug 24 01:37
XRevan86isn't this exactly what canberra is supposed to fix? -_-Aug 24 01:37
MinceRi thought Apache didn't support copyleft in generalAug 24 01:40
XRevan86MinceR: Exactly.Aug 24 01:40
XRevan86MinceR: So Oracle changed the licence for them.Aug 24 01:40
XRevan86Benefits of the CLAAug 24 01:40
MinceRas for gtk, maybe you aren't running some of the 9001 daemons they depend on for everythingAug 24 01:40
MinceRfindmyassd, wipemyassdAug 24 01:41
XRevan86Ah, it's the WM that controls that…Aug 24 01:41
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MinceRthe WM that does everythingAug 24 01:43
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MinceRexcept (lately) for actually rendering and working window decorationsAug 24 01:44
MinceRdamn, things have really gone to shit in the lendows worldAug 24 01:44
MinceRparsing ini files is so complicated they run separate settings daemons to do itAug 24 01:45
MinceRbut doing the same as root in pid1 is somehow no problemAug 24 01:45
MinceR(not to mention that they probably want to eliminate settings as such anyway, because steve jobs believed users are simpletons and can't comprehend settings)Aug 24 01:46
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XRevan86MinceR: Not a particular WMAug 24 01:47
XRevan86any WMAug 24 01:47
XRevan86controls the beepAug 24 01:47
MinceRweirdAug 24 01:47
MinceRi've only seen KDE ever control the beepAug 24 01:47
MinceR(and it had nothing to do with gtk, afaict)Aug 24 01:47
cubexyzxset b off ?Aug 24 01:48
MinceRno, they could replace it with playing a waveformAug 24 01:48
XRevan86https://github.com/mate-desktop/marco/blob/master/src/core/bell.c like thisAug 24 01:49
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XRevan86cubexyz: Probably onAug 24 01:50
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Microcode-License-FixedAug 24 01:50
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Source #Akraino #EdgeComputing Project Leaps Into Action http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114833 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3746c94c-db5e-40e3-81cd-8f1e4e9219ff]Aug 24 01:51
XRevan86> but knew would be corrected and didn't feel like reporting the hype trainAug 24 01:52
XRevan86> Following all of the public attention and pressure, Intel was quick to clear up the situation. Aug 24 01:52
XRevan86schestowitz: Something's not quite right in his logic.Aug 24 01:52
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schestowitzXRevan86: yeah, "damage control" it's called (in PR circles)Aug 24 01:54
schestowitzphoronix did not cover this until Intel respondedAug 24 01:54
XRevan86It's either "public attention and pressure" or "the hype train", decide already %)Aug 24 01:54
schestowitzI suppose Intel sends him lots of gift (him=Michael)Aug 24 01:54
schestowitz*giftsAug 24 01:54
MinceRor he only hopes they willAug 24 01:55
schestowitzXRevan86: I stopped using Twitter almostAug 24 01:55
schestowitzI only log in to check replies once a dayAug 24 01:55
XRevan86schestowitz: What's Twitter?Aug 24 01:55
schestowitzit's a siteAug 24 01:55
MinceR:>Aug 24 01:55
schestowitzand an appAug 24 01:55
MinceRmoronix is garbage as usualAug 24 01:55
schestowitzand that's itAug 24 01:55
schestowitzjust one site or one appAug 24 01:55
schestowitzwith ads and shitAug 24 01:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Sounds like you're doing the right thing ;)Aug 24 01:56
schestowitzit used to be thousands of appsAug 24 01:56
schestowitzthat all stopped 4pm yesterdayAug 24 01:56
schestowitzXRevan86: yes, well... the conditions changedAug 24 01:56
schestowitzI change in lieu with these new conditionsAug 24 01:56
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, we all saw it coming.Aug 24 01:57
schestowitzyears ago I feared it would happenAug 24 01:57
XRevan86I didn't bother to register there.Aug 24 01:57
schestowitzdidn't think twitter (the company) would be foolish enough to do itAug 24 01:57
schestowitzthey had momentum because of their apisAug 24 01:58
schestowitzactually, I want to check somethingAug 24 01:58
XRevan86I didn't think in 2011 Skype would become what it became.Aug 24 01:58
XRevan86but I feared that the proprietary nature of it will lead it to no good (for me as a usee)Aug 24 01:58
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2018/03/13/power-over-vulnerable-staff/Aug 24 01:58
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schestowitzembedded tweets still show upAug 24 01:59
schestowitzfor now anywayAug 24 01:59
schestowitznot sure if years down the line they still willAug 24 01:59
XRevan86schestowitz: It is beneficial for them to have embedding working.Aug 24 01:59
schestowitzXRevan86: Microsoft took over and Skype lost the monopolyAug 24 01:59
schestowitzFacebooj, Apple, Google, Viber etc.Aug 24 01:59
schestowitzLinkedIn you barely even hear about anymoreAug 24 01:59
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XRevan86schestowitz: It is debated whether Microsoft is the reason Skype lost the dominance.Aug 24 02:00
schestowitzgithub nextAug 24 02:00
XRevan86But they definitelyplayed their part.Aug 24 02:00
schestowitzyeahAug 24 02:00
schestowitzthere was a point prior to it..Aug 24 02:00
schestowitz.. when skype explored opening up a bitAug 24 02:00
schestowitzlike the protocolsAug 24 02:00
schestowitzor just the GUIAug 24 02:00
schestowitzPhoronix too wrote about it at one pointAug 24 02:01
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, after that, under Microsoft, it did open up *a bit*Aug 24 02:01
schestowitzI did some articles about it, see categories in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_CampaignAug 24 02:01
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XRevan86schestowitz: skypeweb for Pidgin is evidence for thatAug 24 02:01
XRevan86In 2011 that was not possible. Only clumsy stuff working through the official client's API.Aug 24 02:02
XRevan86and now there's no official client %)Aug 24 02:02
XRevan86only Electron crapAug 24 02:02
XRevan86schestowitz: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidginAug 24 02:03
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XRevan86schestowitz: Microsoft also killed p2p messaging to consolidate all the data through their servers.Aug 24 02:04
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XRevan86schestowitz: If that doesn't speak for their desire to look at what people write then I don't know what does.Aug 24 02:05
schestowitzthey then started following links in 'private' chatsAug 24 02:05
XRevan86Ah, they also banned certain links from being sent through Skype. That's fun too.Aug 24 02:06
schestowitzTypical US centric shitAug 24 02:06
schestowitzsee what I wrote in relation to NSA when they bought itAug 24 02:06
schestowitza year prior to Snowden leaksAug 24 02:06
schestowitzSkype was second to be added to PRISMAug 24 02:06
schestowitzSo I was sort of proven rightAug 24 02:06
schestowitzonly months after the MSFT takeoverAug 24 02:06
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XRevan86schestowitz: It's incredible how quick they can be.Aug 24 02:07
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XRevan86I wonder why Skype doesn't require a phone numberAug 24 02:09
XRevan86all the shiny new hip proprietary IMs doAug 24 02:09
XRevan86and some crappy old ones (ICQ)Aug 24 02:09
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schestowitz[02:09] <XRevan86> I wonder why Skype doesn't require a phone numberAug 24 02:19
schestowitzdoes it not?Aug 24 02:19
schestowitzis ICQ still going in Russia?Aug 24 02:20
schestowitzand if so, does it still default to the "oh oh" sound when receiving a new message?Aug 24 02:21
schestowitzI often wonder if they still keep logs of chats from as far back as the 1990sAug 24 02:23
schestowitzat spy agencies' level, ISPs, company (ICQ) level..Aug 24 02:23
XRevan86schestowitz: It does not.Aug 24 02:23
XRevan86schestowitz: ICQ is not just going, it's completely here.Aug 24 02:23
XRevan86schestowitz: I think it still has that sound but I cannot be sure.Aug 24 02:24
XRevan86And I think its server-side was changed to what Mail.Ru Agent has, so basically rewritten.Aug 24 02:25
schestowitzoh, goodAug 24 02:25
schestowitzI think it was bought for 300 million?Aug 24 02:26
schestowitzMirabilis or something was its maket?Aug 24 02:26
schestowitz*makerAug 24 02:26
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't remember, but I remember that they payed too much %).Aug 24 02:26
XRevan86Mirabilis, then AOLAug 24 02:27
schestowitzif it's still going, then maybe  notAug 24 02:27
schestowitzAIM is deadAug 24 02:27
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XRevan86ICQ has the same c2s protocol as AIM – OSCARAug 24 02:28
XRevan86and they were interoperableAug 24 02:28
XRevan86Just like ICQ is today with Mail.Ru AgentAug 24 02:28
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XRevan86I'm really not sure what the folks who used that interoperability felt when AOL sold ICQ %)Aug 24 02:29
XRevan86I haven't heard anything so maybe they just didn't exist :)Aug 24 02:30
XRevan86schestowitz: BTW, I know only one guy who uses ICQ.Aug 24 02:31
XRevan86And he also likes to write J2ME software.Aug 24 02:32
XRevan86Quite a character.Aug 24 02:32
XRevan86Hence why I said it was oversold – no one uses the damn thing.Aug 24 02:34
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schestowitzanyway, about chatlogsAug 24 02:39
schestowitzI wonder if they logged everything since the startAug 24 02:40
schestowitzbecause I'd love to have my logs from back thenAug 24 02:40
schestowitznostalgic purposes onlyAug 24 02:40
XRevan86schestowitz: If they did, they've likely lost it.Aug 24 02:40
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't think they can even find logs from 2010Aug 24 02:42
XRevan86'Tis time for me to go to the land of dreams.Aug 24 02:43
XRevan86schestowitz, MinceR, cubexyz: Good night.Aug 24 02:44
schestowitzgnAug 24 02:46
schestowitz5/6am in RussiaAug 24 02:47
schestowitzmust be sunriseAug 24 02:47
schestowitzsummer stillAug 24 02:47
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XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftelegra.ph%2FVKontakte-mozhet-poluchit-shtraf-v-20-mln-za-narushenie-GDPR-08-22Aug 24 11:31
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XRevan86Oops, Google Translate actually failed to translate the article.Aug 24 11:31
XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2F4pda.ru%2F2018%2F08%2F23%2F353111Aug 24 11:32
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XRevan86https://pleroma.site/notice/3820301Aug 24 12:59
XRevan86> Avoid redisAug 24 12:59
XRevan86schestowitz: Easy to say, hard to do…Aug 24 12:59
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schestowitzXRevan86: today I read that Mastodon uses RedisAug 24 15:36
XRevan86schestowitz: It makes sense.Aug 24 15:36
XRevan86schestowitz: redis helps A LOT.Aug 24 15:36
XRevan86schestowitz: So you can see the extent of the problem.Aug 24 15:37
XRevan86schestowitz: It's a fast simple database that is the go-to solution for caching.Aug 24 15:38
XRevan86like memcached but… betterAug 24 15:39
XRevan86for instance, roundcube can use redis for caching, and that improves performance for large mail folders significantlyAug 24 15:40
XRevan86there's a patch for GNU social to use redis for the queue daemon, which is also very good for performanceAug 24 15:41
XRevan86I don't use it though, but I could %).Aug 24 15:41
XRevan86even rspamd, a spam filter, uses redisAug 24 15:44
schestowitzSo theiir latest licensing move would cause a messAug 24 15:45
XRevan86schestowitz: As I understand it, they've changed the licence on their products for enterprises, whatever that means.Aug 24 15:46
XRevan86so the main thing that everyone uses remains intactAug 24 15:46
XRevan86I've read https://opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=49170 (en la rusa)Aug 24 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opennet.ru | OpenNews: ????? ?????? ???? ???? RedisAug 24 15:47
XRevan86Where it says that redis remains under BSDL, yet extras like RediSearch, Redis Graph, ReJSON, Redis-ML and Rebloom will be relicensed from AGPL to Apache-2.0 with something called Common ClauseAug 24 15:48
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XRevan86which apparently means that selling a product the functionality of which is fully or almost fully based on those redis things is restrictedAug 24 15:49
XRevan86so it's not possible to sell something like Redis-ML 2.0 Ultra Edition Vasyan-approvedAug 24 15:49
XRevan86which means that these applications won't be free softwareAug 24 15:50
XRevan86violates the freedom of useAug 24 15:50
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XRevan86schestowitz: So it's fishy but the main attraction is FOSS.Aug 24 15:52
XRevan86I guess I'm trying to say that it's not an easy thing to just avoid redis…Aug 24 15:58
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071512Aug 24 21:23
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/y0ikIiOAug 24 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's been an interesting week in Australian politics, so here's a dump of images I stole. - Album on ImgurAug 24 21:32
XRevan86MinceR: What's this about?Aug 24 21:34
XRevan86Prime Minister of Australia did the Gorbachov?Aug 24 21:34
MinceRlolAug 24 21:51
MinceRdunno what gorby didAug 24 21:52
MinceRsomeone's summary was that A was the PM, then B initiated a vote of no confidence to get the position, but C became PM insteadAug 24 21:52
MinceRalso, these are the tories who call themselves "liberal"Aug 24 21:53
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021353Aug 24 22:26
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oiaohmXRevan86: the Gorbachov need more background.  Aug 24 23:14
oiaohmMinceR: worse part is it might not be over yet.   The new leader only got a vote of 44 for and 40 against.Aug 24 23:15
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021348Aug 24 23:15
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XRevan86He didn't do the GorbachovAug 24 23:15
MinceRi wouldn't do gorbachov either, he's grossAug 24 23:16
oiaohmPast leader did threaten to resign if he lost leadership if he carries that out that is balance of power gone.Aug 24 23:16
oiaohmThis up coming week could be quite a mess.Aug 24 23:17
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021338Aug 24 23:38
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/gd8lo7F.jpgAug 25 00:33
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DaemonFC[m]> Mirabilis or something was its maket?Aug 25 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Was,  but AOL bought it when it was binging on buyoutd on dotcom bubble money.Aug 25 00:41
DaemonFC[m]AOL bought a lot of things that turned out to be a total waste of money. Netscape, ICQ, Winamp.Aug 25 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Sold ICQ and Winamp off for a small fraction of what they paid.Aug 25 00:42
MinceRthe history of IT is full of such thingsAug 25 00:43
MinceRacquiring things that turned out to be worthless, failing to acquire things that turned out to be valuableAug 25 00:43
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: And even then Mail.Ru Group probably payed too much for itAug 25 00:58
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021329Aug 25 01:11
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schestowitzI thought about such a joke before...Aug 25 01:14
schestowitzI bet many people didAug 25 01:14
schestowitzwith a name like thatAug 25 01:14
schestowitzMinceR: are the spammers still active today?Aug 25 01:38
schestowitzdid not noticeAug 25 01:38
schestowitzfreenode spammers I meanAug 25 01:38
MinceRnot sureAug 25 01:40
MinceRlast kline i can find with spamming mentioned is from 2 days ago (23rd)Aug 25 01:40
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/LTXzQH8Aug 25 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh dear. The vaccines. Not even once. It's too risky. - Album on ImgurAug 25 01:43
MinceRoh, it's still ongoingAug 25 01:43
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DaemonFC[m]> DaemonFC[m]: And even then Mail.Ru Group probably payed too much for itAug 25 01:47
DaemonFC[m]Probably. $9.5 million I think.Aug 25 01:47
DaemonFC[m]I mean, other than the remaining users, they might as well have just used xmpp.Aug 25 01:47
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They practically dismantled ICQAug 25 01:47
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They didn't need its techAug 25 01:47
XRevan86they already had Mail.Ru AgentAug 25 01:48
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Kinda like what MS did with SkypeAug 25 01:48
schestowitzMinceR: ok, cheers for checkingAug 25 01:50
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XRevan86schestowitz: I've re-subscribed to the proper address everyone from LoadAverage.org, so you have 6 more subscribers restored %).Aug 25 14:55
XRevan86schestowitz: In case you notice and wonder where they came fromAug 25 14:57
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XRevan86https://zona.media/news/2018/08/25/navalny Navalny has been detained again. Possibly because of the upcoming rally at September 9th against the pension reform and corruption.Aug 25 15:05
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071611Aug 25 20:01
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XRevan86MinceR: This individual seems very smart.Aug 25 20:03
MinceR:)Aug 25 20:04
XRevan86that's the real danger of being adopted by a gay couple :DAug 25 20:06
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XRevan86I need to practice on my humourAug 25 20:10
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Cxd4m72.jpgAug 25 20:22
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DaemonFC[m]Straight people tend to have kids without making realistic plans for it.Aug 25 22:12
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DaemonFC[m]The finances alone.... "OMG, it's all so much more expensive than we thought!".Aug 25 22:12
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DaemonFC[m]Donald Glover (comedian) said he'd much rather have AIDS than kids.Aug 25 22:13
DaemonFC[m]"They're both outrageously expensive, they're both constant reminders of the mistakes you've made, and once you have them you can pretty much only date other people that have them."Aug 25 22:13
DaemonFC[m]"But nobody ever got arrested for dropping AIDS."Aug 25 22:14
DaemonFC[m]In the US, is can cost upwards of $2,000 a month to be HIV positive, if you don't qualify for medicaid or some kind of an assistance program that the drug companies keep around to keep regulators away.Aug 25 22:15
DaemonFC[m]Even after the HIV meds go generic, they can cost that much.Aug 25 22:16
DaemonFC[m]Now, a decent society would look at this and go "Something is messed up about this. This is wrong. This is immoral. This is an outrage.".Aug 25 22:16
DaemonFC[m]But this country goes "Eh, fuck em. Let's vote for Donald Trump.".Aug 25 22:17
MinceRlolAug 25 22:17
DaemonFC[m]The drug companies say "Of course it only costs us $3 to manufacture this. The question is, 'What is living worth to you?'".Aug 25 22:17
MinceRif there are multiple drug companies making it, why aren't any of them lowering their prices to get a bigger market share?Aug 25 22:18
DaemonFC[m]Because it's easier to conspire to keep the prices high. Duh! :PAug 25 22:19
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yes, the government *could* easily make a criminal conspiracy case against any one of these companies. It hasn't and it won't.Aug 25 22:19
MinceRand why isn't anyone else manufacturing the drug?Aug 25 22:20
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Instead, it puts drug company lobbyists in charge of the regulatory agencies.Aug 25 22:20
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Because each generic formulation has to be FDA approved.Aug 25 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Drug company lobbyists run the FDA....Aug 25 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Trump put a former Eli Lilly exec who hiked the price of a diabetes drug 5,000% at the top post at the FDA.Aug 25 22:21
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I just meant that this is the only explanation why this person thinks that adoption gives him a free pass of a woman giving him birth :)Aug 25 22:21
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The US has many layers of crooks in the prescription drug system, and one of those layers is called a Pharmacy Benefit Manager.Aug 25 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Sounds benign, doesn't it?Aug 25 22:22
DaemonFC[m]The way it works is this....Aug 25 22:22
MinceR25 232038 <+DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: Because each generic formulation has to be FDA approved.Aug 25 22:22
MinceRsee, the government is fucking it upAug 25 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Say a drug's "cash price" is $1,000 a month. PBMs negotiate "coupon prices" with the drug stores to sell it cheaper and then take a "commission" to steer people to the drug store.Aug 25 22:22
DaemonFC[m]So with GoodRX (a company that works with lots of PBMs), that $1,000 a month drug might be $300 at CVS, $156 at Walmart, $140 at Walgreens, $122 at Jewel-Osco, and $103 at Costco.Aug 25 22:23
DaemonFC[m]Same thing. Same exact thing. Aug 25 22:23
DaemonFC[m]What's worse is that in most states, it is illegal for a pharmacist to say "If you pull up this coupon, that drug will cost 1/10th of the cash price.".Aug 25 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Or if it isn't, they still could be fired..Aug 25 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Because the last thing CVS wants from a customer that would stupidly pay cash price is the pharmacist telling them about a coupon.Aug 25 22:25
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The drug companies have other nasty tricks up their sleeves. Aug 25 22:25
DaemonFC[m]I take Divalproex Sodium Extended Release.Aug 25 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Generic for Depakote ER, which costs about four times as much.Aug 25 22:26
DaemonFC[m]So the company that makes Depakote has an entire website that doesn't come right out and say it (because that would be illegal), but strongly hints that you're not getting the real thing if you go generic, and to ask your doctor to prescribe it as "no subsitutions".Aug 25 22:26
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Now, when I go have my labs drawn and the level of the drug in my blood is exactly the same as when I was taking the brand name..... Oh gee, let me think. Sure I want to pay several hundred dollars a month more for brand.Aug 25 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Couldn't think of a better use for all that money. Better just flush it down the old shitter. Aug 25 22:28
DaemonFC[m]:PAug 25 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Here's the page, MinceR Aug 25 22:29
DaemonFC[m]https://www.depakote.com/depakote-or-a-generic-substituteAug 25 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Depakote or a Generic Substitute? | Depakote® (divalproex sodium)Aug 25 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Now you tell me what this looks like.Aug 25 22:29
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DaemonFC[m]Okay, that's true....The pills may look different. So what?Aug 25 22:30
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DaemonFC[m]So, again, that's just a really long way of admitting that they were all tested and determined to have exactly the same effect when taken.Aug 25 22:31
DaemonFC[m]But we add weasel wording like, "with the expectation".Aug 25 22:31
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 25 22:32
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DaemonFC[m]Make sure you get fucked in the ass with no lubrication each time you visit the pharmacy. Have your doctor write "Fuck this guy in the ass with brand name Depakote prices." on each fill!Aug 25 22:32
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: But most insurance, including mine, WILL NOT PAY for a name brand drug with generic alternatives.Aug 25 22:34
DaemonFC[m]They won't pay for ANY of it.Aug 25 22:34
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DaemonFC[m]Hooray for that. Why should our premiums go up because some idiot is unnecessarily filling his prescriptions with brand?Aug 25 22:35
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DaemonFC[m]They don't mention that if it's "dispense as written", there's a very good chance you're going to be stuck paying the full amount with no insurance coverage at all.Aug 25 22:35
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I had a doctor try writing DAW on a prescription once. I handed it right back and said, "Are you insane? Do I look like I'm made out of money? Fix this!".Aug 25 22:37
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: What is health care in Hungaristan like?Aug 25 22:37
DaemonFC[m]Did they at least get that right?Aug 25 22:37
cubexyzin Hungaristan, they are forced to take M$ pills :)Aug 25 22:38
DaemonFC[m]In the US, you have to be very rich, very old, or dirt poor to get any kind of help.Aug 25 22:38
DaemonFC[m]Everyone else has to get a job and hope to end up on a group plan to spread the risk around and keep their premiums down.Aug 25 22:38
DaemonFC[m]Hell, some people say they hate their job and the pay isn't very good, but they wouldn't have any insurance without it, so they stay for the insurance.Aug 25 22:39
DaemonFC[m]Actually, I've heard that one a lot.Aug 25 22:39
DaemonFC[m]They act like Bernie Sanders is a nutcase when he says Medicare for everyone, but what Medicare is would essentially be one giant group plan with a risk pool of 366 million people and no profit margin.Aug 25 22:40
DaemonFC[m]So naturally, this would fix a lot of what's wrong in our system at less cost than what the government spends now.Aug 25 22:40
DaemonFC[m]So of course we can't do it!Aug 25 22:41
DaemonFC[m]The only reason they allow Medicare to exist is because old people would eat up their profit margins be getting sick all the time and dying slowly.Aug 25 22:43
DaemonFC[m]*byAug 25 22:43
MinceR25 233740 <+DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: What is health care in Hungaristan like?Aug 25 22:50
MinceRit works, but it gets worse every yearAug 25 22:50
MinceRthe government is starving it of money, the professionals flee the countryAug 25 22:50
MinceRmaybe the nazis are trying to establish a system where the poor die early and the rich buy private health careAug 25 22:51
MinceRor maybe they just don't careAug 25 22:51
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