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| oiaohm | MinceR: really author of the CoC should be a little more worried. If the Linux kernel developers end up modify/rejecting you can bet a lot of other projects will follow. | Sep 23 00:12 |
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| MinceR | we'll see how strong the crybully web brigades are, i guess | Sep 23 00:41 |
| MinceR | also on how strong the evil corporate overlords' support for them is and on their power in turn | Sep 23 00:49 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1801292 | Sep 23 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 23 01:01 | |
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| cubexyz | MinceR, slackware is still better than the BSDs in my experience | Sep 23 02:55 |
| cubexyz | there was just a lot more development on the linux side | Sep 23 02:56 |
| cubexyz | but if something really bad was to happen to slackware, then I'd probably use openbsd more | Sep 23 02:56 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: no not touch | Sep 23 03:43 |
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| MinceR | 23 035602 <+cubexyz> there was just a lot more development on the linux side | Sep 23 10:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, that may be going away | Sep 23 10:19 |
| MinceR | thanks to the LDF, its members and crybullies | Sep 23 10:19 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/b1kGMCW.jpg | Sep 23 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | > It's already equinox again. Frost forecast here for next week. | Sep 23 11:33 |
| schestowitz | I forget about equinox.. | Sep 23 11:33 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/3prTELn.jpg | Sep 23 14:04 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012856 | Sep 24 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | lol | Sep 24 03:07 |
| schestowitz | nice | Sep 24 03:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Reading about Transmeta. I never really looked into it too much. | Sep 24 04:37 |
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| DaemonFC | Apparently after they were scuttled, their patents went to "Intellectual Ventures", the patent troll | Sep 24 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, their architecture was a disaster in almost every way. | Sep 24 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | What was Linus Torvalds doing while he worked there? | Sep 24 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2003/07/030715_Transmeta/030715_Transmeta.htm | Sep 24 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vanshardware.com | VHJ: Tracking Transmeta | Sep 24 04:45 | |
| DaemonFC | "The Crusoe is terrible at rendering web pages. The Netscape test below is the most favorable showing Crusoe was able to muster. From here, things get worse – much worse – for Crusoe on browser tests." | Sep 24 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | It was three times slower on this than the Celeron. | Sep 24 04:46 |
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| schestowitz | heh | Sep 24 08:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, the MS troll bought these patents | Sep 24 08:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: attempting to make a x86 cpu while avoiding the x86 patent pool that ws the transmeta | Sep 24 08:53 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ws/was | Sep 24 08:54 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: transmeta was successful at doing that but performance was horrible. | Sep 24 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't that. It was the awful performance of their x86 on top of VLIW emulator. | Sep 24 09:06 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: going the VLIW route with emulator got around the patent pool. | Sep 24 10:46 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/LVvcCFf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/f8Dwbne.png https://i.imgur.com/0BV2EhE.jpg | Sep 24 14:35 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/kT7YLeS | Sep 24 14:43 |
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| XRevan86 | > https://i.imgur.com/0EXalSu.jpg | Sep 24 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | Reminds me of a quote from Master and Margarita: "Would I dare to give a lady vodka? This is pure alcohol!" | Sep 24 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | DHMO-free vodka | Sep 24 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | don't ask for any less | Sep 24 14:50 |
| *XRevan86 tried to find an official translation, but that turned out to be tricky. | Sep 24 14:50 | |
| XRevan86 | I suppose even if the original book is public domain, the translation doesn't have to be %). | Sep 24 14:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | wow, about a month now from these spammer | Sep 24 18:14 |
| schestowitz | spammer/s | Sep 24 18:14 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dn3sf-RXoAAGR_L.jpg | Sep 24 19:41 |
| schestowitz | context/ | Sep 24 19:42 |
| schestowitz | ? | Sep 24 19:42 |
| MinceR | none | Sep 24 19:42 |
| schestowitz | hockey? | Sep 24 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | Tune in next for a joke about Uranus | Sep 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | could or might as well be made up | Sep 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | There was a Romanian player called "Rot" | Sep 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | in 2016, the Euro 2016 games in France | Sep 24 19:43 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMOeV5MLOvc | Sep 24 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Freakazoid Uranus best joke ever!! - YouTube | Sep 24 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: Luc, there's an anus there | Sep 24 19:43 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is the statement the joke? %) | Sep 24 19:47 |
| MinceR | yes | Sep 24 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, a Shovel joke, I see. | Sep 24 19:47 |
| MinceR | shovel? | Sep 24 19:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fru.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2F | Sep 24 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Sep 24 19:49 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "Shovel" is a word-joke, after which one is supposed to laugh | Sep 24 19:50 |
| MinceR | so, a pun | Sep 24 19:50 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: nope | Sep 24 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just a random word | Sep 24 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | Shovel | Sep 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | never hit your grandma with a shovel | Sep 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | https://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/n/neverhityourgrandmawithashovel.html | Sep 24 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lyricsplayground.com | NEVER HIT YOUR GRANDMA WITH A SHOVEL - Lyrics - International Lyrics Playground | Sep 24 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIwr261Sfsw | Sep 24 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never Hit Your Grandma With A Shovel - YouTube | Sep 24 19:52 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpdMOG7tjtE | Sep 24 19:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never Hit Your Grandma with a Shovel (It Makes a Bad Impression on Her Mind) - YouTube | Sep 24 19:52 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Listened to it hundreds of times already | Sep 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Spike Jones | Sep 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | shovels were common in slapstick era skits | Sep 24 19:53 |
| schestowitz | today's kids would know what a shovel does | Sep 24 19:53 |
| schestowitz | too busy on their 'smart' crap | Sep 24 19:53 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1810-clear&num=1 | Sep 24 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu 18.10 Performance Is Looking Up, But Clear Linux Still Leads In Many Tests - Phoronix | Sep 24 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | yeah, still shilling Intel | Sep 24 19:55 |
| schestowitz | How much gear have they sent Michael already|? | Sep 24 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | While Clear Linux still beats other distributions by a large amount on certain tests, it appears that it's not trouncing them on everything anymore. | Sep 24 19:55 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Qmmp – Qt-based Multimedia Player – the sound with no limits http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115857 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80a083a2-12b7-41ff-9362-2ccc5166197a] | Sep 24 19:55 | |
| schestowitz | does anyone even USE ClearLinux? | Sep 24 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't know shovels have that big an impact on cultures of the world :) | Sep 24 19:56 |
| MinceR | obviously, this calls for the invention of the SmartShovel™ | Sep 24 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's because the improvements Intel has made in the GNU/Linux components for their hardware and x86 in general are filtering down to the distributions that people actually use. | Sep 24 19:56 |
| schestowitz | with a heart monitor | Sep 24 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | Features: GPS locator | Sep 24 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Clear Linux is sort of a showcase where Intel can tinker with optimizations and such. | Sep 24 19:56 |
| schestowitz | so you can count the number of things you pick and put that on your FB wall for "likes" | Sep 24 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen anyone actually using it. | Sep 24 19:57 |
| schestowitz | it's platform-specific | Sep 24 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | QA – Q: How can I find the smartshovel with a GPS locator? A: You can't, it's not for you, darling. | Sep 24 19:57 |
| schestowitz | worthless binding of OS (GNU/Linux) to a particular arch with back doors (ME) | Sep 24 19:57 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: you can't swap batteries | Sep 24 19:58 |
| schestowitz | they're soldered in, so buy Shovel4S+ | Sep 24 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Even Saint Jobs would use it if he was alive... | Sep 24 19:58 |
| MinceR | why would anyone use clear linux? red hat already delivers lendows to them in the forms of fedora, rHELL and centos | Sep 24 19:58 |
| schestowitz | exactly | Sep 24 19:58 |
| schestowitz | and I never found anyone online, other than Michael Larabel, who installed this drek | Sep 24 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | I use Fedora. I actually upgraded to 29 already, last week. | Sep 24 19:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe they reward him to stick it in their benchmarks and mention it | Sep 24 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | https://poslevkusie.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/lopatofon3.png | Sep 24 19:59 |
| schestowitz | oh, you are SO quick with the GIMP | Sep 24 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | not mine | Sep 24 20:00 |
| schestowitz | I know | Sep 24 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | The Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2 does not have a battery that is soldered in. | Sep 24 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | It has 8 T4 screws to take off the back cover and then 6 more to dislodge the battery. | Sep 24 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo using yoga as a brand is weird | Sep 24 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | Then you unplug the old one and replace it with a new one, put the screws back in, and you're done. | Sep 24 20:00 |
| schestowitz | I presume they have TMs on it | Sep 24 20:00 |
| schestowitz | And yoga is Indian | Sep 24 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | It's common in Russia to call very large smartphones shovelphones %) | Sep 24 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Lenovo is Chinese pretending to not be Chinese now because of the trade wars/sanctions | Sep 24 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | or just shovels | Sep 24 20:01 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: why not tablets? | Sep 24 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yes, the sanctions will almost certainly cause me to look elsewhere for a computer. | Sep 24 20:01 |
| MinceR | it's "Yoga" because it's flexible | Sep 24 20:01 |
| schestowitz | sickles | Sep 24 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, and GNOME actually has very good support for the tablet mode. | Sep 24 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | At least as long as you're using 2.28 or later. | Sep 24 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Err 3.28. | Sep 24 20:02 |
| MinceR | and as long as your preferences are exactly the same as those of certain redhat staff | Sep 24 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | The on screen keyboard was a big pain in the ass in older releases. | Sep 24 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: doesn't feel right | Sep 24 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | It used to only occupy a small part of the screen and made it very hard to type. | Sep 24 20:02 |
| MinceR | not resizable? | Sep 24 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now it comes up and spans the width of the screen. | Sep 24 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Before, it just occupied the center and everything was tiny and horrible to try to use. | Sep 24 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DXVK-0.80-Released | Sep 24 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK 0.80 Released With Initial State Cache, Direct3D 11.1 Feature Level - Phoronix | Sep 24 20:04 | |
| DaemonFC | DXVK got detected as cheating software by Blizzard last week. | Sep 24 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | They banned people who were playing one of their popular games in Wine. | Sep 24 20:05 |
| MinceR | well, it's blizzard | Sep 24 20:05 |
| MinceR | did you expect them to do something sane? | Sep 24 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | From what I herd, they unbanned everyone and updated their anti-cheating program so it wouldn't happen again. | Sep 24 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | *heard | Sep 24 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Their official line is "We don't support Linux, but if it works, more power to you.". | Sep 24 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm guessing that it's probably one of those new games where if you don't buy more shit throughout the game it's hard or impossible to win. | Sep 24 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Like EA does. | Sep 24 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading a little about DOOM (2016) and the Wikipedia article mentioned a couple of "feminists" complaining that there was too much violence in it. | Sep 24 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | Some news articles made a big stink about it. "Growing concern about violent video games." turns out to be two assholes on Twitter and it's not exactly clear what they do for a living. | Sep 24 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | "Think of the children!" → "Think of the women!"? | Sep 24 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | that's condecending | Sep 24 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Does professional concern troll pay a lot of money? | Sep 24 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Third Wave Feminism. | Sep 24 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If you have a tablet, it's not like you look like you have a shovel next to your face :) | Sep 24 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Unless one's tablet is phone-capable and one actually does use it that way | Sep 24 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Anything that men like is stupid and evil and must be sent down the incineration chute. | Sep 24 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | After they torch everything on Steam, we can finally play games where we explore our thoughts and feelings. | Sep 24 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: Those games even run on a Mac. | Sep 24 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Like Serious Sam? | Sep 24 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | No, what was that one that they were all excited about? It was one where you basically couldn't lose and it was just one of those stories where you mashed buttons to proceed. | Sep 24 20:11 |
| MinceR | maybe they should play something else, then | Sep 24 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | It got bad reviews and people started trolling them. Then they cried and complained to Intel that Intel was advertising on video game websites. | Sep 24 20:12 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: anime visual novels? %) | Sep 24 20:12 |
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| XRevan86 | Anyway, from my observation, girls enjoy GTA and stuff just as much as boys do. | Sep 24 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy#Zo%C3%AB_Quinn_and_Depression_Quest | Sep 24 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gamergate controversy - Wikipedia | Sep 24 20:14 | |
| XRevan86 | > The game received positive reviews in the gaming media, but faced backlash online from gamers who disliked its departure from typical game formats emphasizing violence and skill and who opposed "political" intrusions into gamer culture. | Sep 24 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | Rogue-likes exist? The horror! | Sep 24 20:16 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Seems like something's missing. Why would anyone bother with yet another game being released even if it's not to their liking? | Sep 24 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | There are so many games out there that require no skill at all. And some don't have violence either. | Sep 24 20:18 |
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| XRevan86 | And yes, I've managed to understand nothing about Gamergate %) | Sep 24 20:21 |
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| DaemonFC | A game wouldn't be fun if there's no way to lose. | Sep 24 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/09/sharp-did-it-again/ | Sep 24 20:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 24 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | Sharp did it again – There and back again | Sep 24 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | I have written about a certain Sarah Sharp (now Sage Sharp) and their attacks on Linus. As everyone knows by now, the Linux Kernel Team has decided to adopt a Code of Conduct – and without failure and according to the expectations of many – within the shortest time the CoC was used not in the intended way to create a positive atmosphere, but to attack fellow developers, in this case Ted Tso. | Sep 24 20:44 |
| schestowitz | [...] | Sep 24 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I have contacted the Linux Foundation to cut any ties with SShape, because the posting alone is against the very idea of the CoC: it is ad personam, it is derogatory, and it is public harassment. I even consider it on the border line of legality to call someone out in this way. | Sep 24 20:44 |
| schestowitz | This is what one gets from a combination of radical feminists paired with a CoC of this style. | Sep 24 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | One of the "feminists" who complained about DOOM also complained that Super Mario Brothers had Princess Toadstool and that the objective of the game is to find and rescue her from Bowser. | Sep 24 20:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 24 20:45 |
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| DaemonFC | The video gaming industry is like this all the way back to the Video Game Crash of the 1980s. | Sep 24 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | It was basically a marketing strategy that for the industry to make a comeback, it had to focus the marketing on boys. | Sep 24 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | The 10NES lockout chip enforced that nobody could release a Nintendo game without it going through their QA process. What sank Atari is that everyone quickly figured out how to release unlicensed cartridges and the console wouldn't stop them from doing it, so a lot of really low quality games flooded the market and caused the crash. | Sep 24 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Atari couldn't depend on selling the console at a reasonable price and then relying on royalties from the licensing and QA process, and it certainly didn't help that unlicensed games like Custer's Revenge hit the market. | Sep 24 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | So yeah, things were actually a lot worse before lockout mechanisms. | Sep 24 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not that official Atari licensed games were necessarily any good (ET), but Nintendo was the first company to at least try to limit the number of bad games on their hardware. | Sep 24 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | And the unlicensed cartridges that found a way around 10NES sucked, like Bible Adventure from Wisdom Tree. | Sep 24 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo took a huge gamble with the NES because it entered the market when everyone thought that video games were a passing fad that had their day. | Sep 24 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Valve pretty much lets everyone publish to their store and it shows. Shades of Atari, if you will. | Sep 24 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | There are a lot of good ones and a lot of bad ones, and the reason the system works anyway is because people buy the bad ones and then warn everyone else away. | Sep 24 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | So when you release "Depression Quest" and nobody likes it and people stop buying it after the initial sales, what do you do? | Sep 24 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Accept the criticism? Release a better game? Complain that everyone hates it because you're a female developer? | Sep 24 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously, the last answer is what happens. | Sep 24 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | There are also mechanisms in place that let you turn a bad game into a decent one with patches and then send those out to everyone who bought a copy, and they can change their reviews. Or label it early access so everyone knows it isn't finisheed yet. Of course, none of this was possible with ROM cartridges in the 1980s. It's why Final Fantasy for the NES will always have dozens of bugs that break the intended gameplay | Sep 24 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | and why people can always speed run through Super Mario using glitches. | Sep 24 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | It seems, I don't know if this is just a thing with women in general, but, there's no nice way to say it. They don't respond well to criticism and they're more likely to cry about it and leave, and this entertains trolls, so when you do this, the trolling escalates and you're getting rape jokes, bomb threats, Facebook account takeovers, etc. | Sep 24 20:58 |
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| DaemonFC | And men don't usually cry about it and leave. They push themselves to come back and fix stuff. It's perhaps a function of society, but it's historically been more acceptable for women to show weakness, so perhaps this has forced men to grow thicker skin. | Sep 24 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, men do have feelings, and repressing them isn't healthy, so it's not like we get a pass. | Sep 24 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | In men, repressing emotion comes out in other ways, like alcoholism, domestic violence, and suicide, so it's not like this is doing us favors. | Sep 24 21:00 |
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| abeNd-org | greets | Sep 24 21:04 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012829 | Sep 24 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 24 21:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=macOS-Mojava-Released | Sep 24 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macOS Mojave Released With Dark Mode, Redesigned App Store - Phoronix | Sep 24 21:25 | |
| DaemonFC | "MacOS Mojave releases with a new dark mode, a "Dynamic Desktop" that changes background images based on the time of day" | Sep 24 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | You mean that thing that GNOME has had doe at least 10 years? | Sep 24 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107891 | Sep 24 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | 107891 – [wine, regression, bisected] RAGE, Wolfenstein The New Order hangs in menu | Sep 24 21:29 | |
| DaemonFC | None of the id tech 5 engine games got a Linux port and it doesn't look like any of the id tech 6 games will either. | Sep 24 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Carmack said he'd release id tech 5 under the GPL in 2007, but never did. | Sep 24 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Now, he isn't even at id Software anymore. He left a while after Bethesda bought them. | Sep 24 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty much all of Bethesda's games are completely broken at release and never get fully fixed, and sometimes the patch breaks things that were working before. | Sep 24 21:31 |
| MinceR | id is dead | Sep 24 21:31 |
| MinceR | quake live is a joke | Sep 24 21:31 |
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| MinceR | quake champions is an even bigger joke | Sep 24 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Like the Skyrim patch that made the dragons fly backwards under certain cases, and the fact that the Switch port crashes frequently despite being released 6 years after the original release of Skyrim. | Sep 24 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A lot of the bugs in Skyrim are actually problems with the interaction of the AI scripts. | Sep 24 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Since the AI scripts are interpreted by the game's engine, many of the bugs have been fixed by "community patches". | Sep 24 21:32 |
| MinceR | qc doesn't even have a console | Sep 24 21:32 |
| MinceR | qc doesn't even let you run your own server | Sep 24 21:32 |
| MinceR | you can't run a LAN game without help from zenimax | Sep 24 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | Bethesda released Skyrim with broken quests, but left quest items for some of them in the game. | Sep 24 21:33 |
| MinceR | on zenimax's attitude toward Linux-based systems >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TTimo#Life_and_career | Sep 24 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Timothee Besset - Wikipedia | Sep 24 21:34 | |
| DaemonFC | So if you pick them up, you can't put them down again, so you're stuck carrying the quest item and it counts against your carrying weight limit, so without going to the console (PC only) your character is permanently crippled by whatever the weight of the item is. | Sep 24 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Bethesda is infamous for broken games. | Sep 24 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes you play for 20-30 hours and then something happens and makes a quest unplayable. Sometimes the main quest. | Sep 24 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Having sunk 30 hours into a game that suddenly breaks for no reason infuriates you and you may not ever go back and finish the game. | Sep 24 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, In Skyrim, I had to reload from a savegame once because a Draugr used a Word of Power "force throw" on me and the ragdoll animation glitched and trapped me inside a wall in a dungeon. | Sep 24 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | There's been other problems. Like you kill a dragon and the game doesn't let you absorb a soul, or the dragon keeps flapping its wings instead of disappearing. | Sep 24 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard that spells glitch a lot. I don't really use spells other than the Words of Power, which you get as part of the storyline anyway. | Sep 24 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | It's easier to play the game as a fighter character because using magic requires patience and a lot of skill whereas beating things up gives you experience points that you can use to forge armor and weapons that get you to the capped limits anyway. | Sep 24 21:39 |
| MinceR | https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/9/23/212 | Sep 24 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: (Eric S. Raymond): On holy wars, and a plea for peace | Sep 24 21:40 | |
| DaemonFC | Flawless Ebony Armor with full suit bonus perk gets you past the damage reduction cap (80%), and it's not even supposed to be the best armor available in the game. | Sep 24 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Bethesda.... :P | Sep 24 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, There was also an easy way to beat Oblivion without "cheating". | Sep 24 21:42 |
| MinceR | don't even install it? | Sep 24 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Just save before you pull the sigil stones out of the Oblivion gates and eventually you get an invisibility enchantment. | Sep 24 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | Once you have enough for full invisibility, just go to the game boss, Mehrunes Dagon, and beat the shit out of him. He can't see you so can't fight back. | Sep 24 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically the same as turning the enemy AI off. | Sep 24 21:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 21:44 |
| MinceR | which is not always something that makes them weaker :> | Sep 24 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Any game that has "random encounters" between AIs can have unexpected and humorous results. | Sep 24 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Bethesda makes games that are bigger than is reasonable to debug. | Sep 24 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | Then eventually just releases them as they are. | Sep 24 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that DOOM wasn't bugged like this. | Sep 24 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Probably because they're still using the id tech engines and there are id people that stayed on. | Sep 24 21:47 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you could end up with the hard to kill monstor in doom because it had been crushed and brought back to life. | Sep 24 22:01 |
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| DaemonFC | <oiaohm> DaemonFC: you could end up with the hard to kill monstor in doom because it had been crushed and brought back to life. | Sep 25 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | The ghost monster bug. | Sep 25 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | That was made possible by a "fix" for another bug. | Sep 25 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | id Software tried fixing a bug in Doom 1.2 and earlier that sometimes made it impossible to walk over a pool of gibs. | Sep 25 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | The patch fixed that, but if an archvile comes and resurrects that monster, it comes back with all of its abilities, plus it can walk through walls and doors and it's almost impossible to kill. | Sep 25 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | You'd have to use splash damage, an explosive barrel, or a telefrag. | Sep 25 01:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Some fan maps use this as a feature to unleash a monster that you have to figure out how to kill, so most engines support the bug instead of fixing it. | Sep 25 02:01 |
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| r_schestowitz | "I'm just gonna disregard the document and be excellent to each other." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1049526-vulkan-adopts-a-code-of-conduct#post1049526 75 comments in the past few hours alone... #vulkan\ | Sep 25 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Adopts A Code Of Conduct - Phoronix Forums | Sep 25 05:32 | |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR DaemonFC[m] ^^ | Sep 25 05:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Now Vulkan as well | Sep 25 05:33 |
| r_schestowitz | it spreads | Sep 25 05:33 |
| r_schestowitz | who will get kicked out soon? | Sep 25 05:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | >>>> "There's no reward other than the satisfaction of having put the source code | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | >>>> of BBCSDL into the public domain." | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | >>>> https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15667 = | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> A follow up to that one, with both good and bad news: | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | >>> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=223160 | Sep 25 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Request for help in organising/releasing source code - stardot.org.uk | Sep 25 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | BBC BASIC (Raspbian) source code released - Raspberry Pi Forums | Sep 25 06:17 | |
| r_schestowitz | >> Thanks, I've reused your words a bit.. | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. It's too bad his health is in decline. He's done great things. | Sep 25 06:17 |
| r_schestowitz | > It's tremendous that the code is now Free. | Sep 25 06:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | who will get kicked out soon? | Sep 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I dunno. My Skylake graphics supports Vulkan, but I don't have any games that use it. | Sep 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most Steam games from the Humble Bundles and Steam sales are OpenGL. | Sep 25 07:55 |
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| cubexyz | another ancient piece of software back from the dead: | Sep 25 10:08 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wsb-pet-cube.png | Sep 25 10:08 |
| r_schestowitz | which one? | Sep 25 10:08 |
| r_schestowitz | oh, beat me to it | Sep 25 10:08 |
| cubexyz | from 1984 | Sep 25 10:08 |
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| MinceR | 25 063329 <+r_schestowitz> who will get kicked out soon? | Sep 25 13:27 |
| MinceR | whomever the crybullies or the corporate overlords happen to dislike, for whatever reason | Sep 25 13:27 |
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| MinceR | the savages are destroying everything | Sep 25 13:34 |
| MinceR | GNU, Linux, X, Vulkan... | Sep 25 13:34 |
| r_schestowitz | X also? | Sep 25 13:37 |
| MinceR | it's maintained by people who don't understand it and aim to replace it with wayland | Sep 25 13:40 |
| MinceR | in which they refuse to do a lot of things X does | Sep 25 13:40 |
| MinceR | because _they_ don't play FPS games or take screenshots, and fuck everyone who does | Sep 25 13:41 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1807251 | Sep 25 14:06 |
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| r_schestowitz | MinceR: but does x/freedesktop have a coc too? | Sep 25 14:08 |
| MinceR | proprietary desktop doesn't even need a CoC, they're cancer | Sep 25 14:08 |
| MinceR | s/y d/yd/ | Sep 25 14:08 |
| r_schestowitz | right | Sep 25 14:08 |
| r_schestowitz | and the coc is the management | Sep 25 14:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they don't even need rules to fire | Sep 25 14:09 |
| MinceR | yup | Sep 25 14:09 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Sep 25 14:17 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: Oracle | Sep 25 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft | Sep 25 14:21 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: IBM | Sep 25 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: SCO | Sep 25 14:21 |
| sebsebseb | Novell | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | Roy schestowitz | Sep 25 14:22 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: SUSE | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | Boycott Novell | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: OpenSUSE | Sep 25 14:22 |
| cubexyz | actually new X11 broke one of my old(ish) programs | Sep 25 14:22 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: Red Hat | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: what in Fedora Core 1 : d ? | Sep 25 14:22 |
| cubexyz | not sure why as yet | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Fedora | Sep 25 14:22 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Canonical | Sep 25 14:23 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: Debian | Sep 25 14:23 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Looks like I can finallhy upgrade my MX 4 to a stable ubports based on 16.04 | Sep 25 14:24 |
| cubexyz | sebsebseb, broken in slackware 14.2 | Sep 25 14:24 |
| r_schestowitz | sebsebseb: welcome back | Sep 25 14:24 |
| r_schestowitz | razielle_tzu or someone else was looking for you. I think someone else. | Sep 25 14:24 |
| r_schestowitz | I think someone who worried about you, based on the 'tone; | Sep 25 14:24 |
| r_schestowitz | I got to go now | Sep 25 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | r_schestowitz: bsaed on what tone ? | Sep 25 14:25 |
| r_schestowitz | cycling while still sunny | Sep 25 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | and yes razielle_tzu might have been missing me | Sep 25 14:25 |
| r_schestowitz | sebsebseb: in IRC | Sep 25 14:25 |
| r_schestowitz | cya later, gtg | Sep 25 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | I don't use IRC as much anymore, it's mostly a waste of time really so ! | Sep 25 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | so are many other things really, but still | Sep 25 14:25 |
| sebsebseb | r_schestowitz: IRC won't get me a girl friend it seems, ha ha, so mostly a waste of time, but so are dating sites and apps ah !!!!!!!!!!!!! | Sep 25 14:27 |
| cubexyz | going from x.org 1.4.2 to 1.18.3 was a big jump | Sep 25 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | why you do that ? | Sep 25 14:44 |
| cubexyz | can't run old stuff on everything | Sep 25 14:45 |
| cubexyz | got to have at least one quasi-new box | Sep 25 14:46 |
| cubexyz | haven't even tried running loki games or lgp games on slackware 14.2 yet | Sep 25 14:47 |
| cubexyz | also vice segfaults on 14.2 :-/ | Sep 25 14:48 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: yeah old stuff ::D | Sep 25 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: my BQ 4.5 Aquarius is still on a old Ubuntu Touch 14.10 image from Canonical | Sep 25 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | that's old | Sep 25 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I might be like the only person in the world with that still :d | Sep 25 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | but I will attempt at upgrading my MX 4 Ubports 15.04 based one, to the more recent 16.04 base | Sep 25 14:50 |
| cubexyz | I'll assume the lifespan of smartphones is very short (assuming you meant smartphone) | Sep 25 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: no not ones that can be supported by ubports or Salifish OS | Sep 25 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | the life span for those are long ! | Sep 25 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | and I think this pureism os when they do a phone too | Sep 25 14:51 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: but yes standard Androrid or iOS phones the life time is short | Sep 25 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | the life span | Sep 25 14:52 |
| cubexyz | I resurrected a program from 1984 recently :) | Sep 25 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I could put the recent Ubports image based on Ubuntu 16.04, the big update, on both the MX 4 and BQ 4.5, under Canonical they were both going to not get that update and be lagacy devices stuck on 15.04, but the community has done it ubports | Sep 25 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | what program was that ? | Sep 25 14:52 |
| cubexyz | one of my oldest programs | Sep 25 14:53 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wsb-pet-cube.png | Sep 25 14:53 |
| cubexyz | you see in the olden days everything was green :) | Sep 25 14:54 |
| sebsebseb | oh nce, but that's the pet emualter ? | Sep 25 14:54 |
| cubexyz | part of vice... xpet actually | Sep 25 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | yeah there wasnt much colour n old computers | Sep 25 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: if its got stallboad on my bq 4.5 or that works in 16.04 | Sep 25 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | I Might keep it on 14.10 even longer h eh | Sep 25 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | not really using that phone as a phone anyway so | Sep 25 14:55 |
| sebsebseb | anymore | Sep 25 14:55 |
| cubexyz | the original 5.25" disk is long gone... the program only survived because I had a printout | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: they always suggest you upgrade etc | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | but | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | the old stuff is history ! | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | the begingining of things etc | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | where it all began ! | Sep 25 14:56 |
| cubexyz | upgrade sure, but keep anything you consider important | Sep 25 14:56 |
| sebsebseb | keep anything you consider important, you mean old stuff ? | Sep 25 14:57 |
| cubexyz | old software, old hardware, old anything you still use | Sep 25 14:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: yeah I don't know about the 16.04 ugprade quite | Sep 25 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | what apps will break etc | Sep 25 14:58 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I will just have to try on the mx 4 | Sep 25 14:58 |
| cubexyz | I almost lost some of my simh stuff... it would have been quite a disaster | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | then I can decide what to do with the other phone | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | your what stuff ? | Sep 25 14:59 |
| cubexyz | the Bell Labs PDP-11 Unix stuff | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: I am doing events :) | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | I can show things ! | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: shame we have no more main strema or pretty much Linuxp hone though ! | Sep 25 14:59 |
| sebsebseb | no ANDROID does not count | Sep 25 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: something more desktop Linux like etc, like Salifish OS and ubports | Sep 25 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | that usses desktop technologies etc | Sep 25 15:00 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: every event is differnet yeah ! | Sep 25 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | the software changes | Sep 25 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | teh devices change | Sep 25 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | the people doing it with or waht they are doing changes a bit etc | Sep 25 15:01 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: doing another event in Novembmer | Sep 25 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | trying to get people into Linux etc | Sep 25 15:02 |
| cubexyz | sailfish OS? | Sep 25 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | hopefully I have saliifsh osesd my sony xpeira x before then as well ! | Sep 25 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: yes that's mostly known about in Europe by Linux geeks | Sep 25 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | but yes | Sep 25 15:02 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: http://jolla.com | Sep 25 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Homepage - Jolla | Sep 25 15:02 | |
| sebsebseb | lots of former NOkia developers carried on the Meego project or whatever, or forked it, and made this | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | there own company Joll and Slaifhs OS | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | the tablet failed, but been some devices | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | some got the tablet | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: just look it up | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | Jolla | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | and | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | Salifish OS | Sep 25 15:03 |
| cubexyz | ok, I couldn't find salifish | Sep 25 15:03 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: its the only real Linux player we got now, with ubports, and tizen doesn't count so | Sep 25 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | look up :: Salifish OS | Sep 25 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | SailfishOS | Sep 25 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | yep that | Sep 25 15:04 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: you got a device with it or ubports ? :D ? | Sep 25 15:04 |
| cubexyz | ok... but he keeps spelling it salifish :) | Sep 25 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Nope, I know some people who do though %) | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I do that Jola phone, but I think its not working as well now, some slighth ardware issues or something | Sep 25 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Except the guy with Ubuntu hasn't updated to UBPorts | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | and once I acsgaully re flash this MX 4 ! | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | sorry | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | Sony Xperiar X | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | Sony Xperia X that will be a Salifish OS phone | Sep 25 15:05 |
| sebsebseb | I got two Ubuntu phones too, and a mostly broken Ubuntu tablet ! | Sep 25 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I myself have a Google-free Android phone. | Sep 25 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: people on Ubuntu Touch should upgrade to ubports really ! | Sep 25 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: I told him that %) | Sep 25 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: my bq 4.5 could be an exception to tha though since I got the MX 4 | Sep 25 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | bq is on a really old Canonical image | Sep 25 15:06 |
| sebsebseb | a 14.10 based one from 2015 | Sep 25 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | since had thought had lost that phone for months anyway, and I kept it intentailly on the old image | Sep 25 15:07 |
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| sebsebseb | but always kept the mx 4 up to daet or reasoanbly, and the tablet to, before that guy cracked my screen big time and made it pretty much unusuable ah !!! trying to fix it uh | Sep 25 15:07 |
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| sebsebseb | XRevan86: I need to get another tablet really, he probably still wants to sell me a second hand one | Sep 25 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | but he uh | Sep 25 15:07 |
| sebsebseb | so I am hoping to buy old stock still, but money issues ! | Sep 25 15:08 |
| sebsebseb | also it has to be the black one now, not the white. the full hd not hd | Sep 25 15:08 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: you were from Russia wern't you ? | Sep 25 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: Still are | Sep 25 15:09 |
| sebsebseb | your from Russia ok | Sep 25 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | from Russia and in Russia %) | Sep 25 15:09 |
| *sebsebseb hopes he installed stallboard on the bq 4.5 hmm | Sep 25 15:09 | |
| sebsebseb | that's been my favourite app | Sep 25 15:09 |
| sebsebseb | and tuxkart | Sep 25 15:09 |
| SopaXorzTaker | XRevan86, you're in Russia? | Sep 25 15:17 |
| SopaXorzTaker | or *from*? | Sep 25 15:17 |
| XRevan86 | SopaXorzTaker: Well, the question was whether I was from Russia | Sep 25 15:17 |
| sebsebseb | who's SopaXorzTaker ? | Sep 25 15:25 |
| SopaXorzTaker | sebsebseb, I'm SopaXorzTaker | Sep 25 15:26 |
| SopaXorzTaker | aka Mark B. | Sep 25 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | SopaXorzTaker: asl heh | Sep 25 15:26 |
| SopaXorzTaker | 15/M[?]/Israel | Sep 25 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | 15 WOW really ? | Sep 25 15:26 |
| SopaXorzTaker | yep | Sep 25 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | what brings you here? | Sep 25 15:26 |
| sebsebseb | and you must be reasaonbly smart ! if all into Linux etc :) | Sep 25 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | at your age as well | Sep 25 15:27 |
| SopaXorzTaker | sebsebseb, hatred for Microsoft, mostly | Sep 25 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | why ? | Sep 25 15:27 |
| SopaXorzTaker | because I'm obsessed with software freedom and open-source | Sep 25 15:27 |
| SopaXorzTaker | to the level of "where's my machine gun?!" (not really) | Sep 25 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | SopaXorzTaker: also need a next generation of Linux kernel developers etc, most peoople your age care more abou social media than much else now h eh | Sep 25 15:27 |
| sebsebseb | also cubexyz is old and could be your grandad :d | Sep 25 15:28 |
| SopaXorzTaker | sebsebseb, I am also obsessed with Furbies | Sep 25 15:28 |
| SopaXorzTaker | If not that, I could be writing the kernel right now | Sep 25 15:28 |
| sebsebseb | furbies gtaht sounds familur, but i am thinking whats that | Sep 25 15:28 |
| SopaXorzTaker | those fluffy pet robots from 1998 :P | Sep 25 15:29 |
| sebsebseb | oh right ok | Sep 25 15:29 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/548154.jpg | Sep 25 16:48 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Wayland future and legacyhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115890 [https://pleroma.site/objects/88c39e89-3d3e-4f1d-909b-ed2ef82cfbc0] | Sep 25 16:59 | |
| XRevan86 | > It's not even 2019 yet, but Microsoft announces "Office 2019" because the company is all about vapourware. | Sep 25 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | They do that every single time | Sep 25 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | MSO 2016 was released in 2015, MSO 2013 in 2012 | Sep 25 17:01 |
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| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: yeah, I said that | Sep 25 17:04 |
| r_schestowitz | I also added two links after this | Sep 25 17:04 |
| r_schestowitz | about MSFT history | Sep 25 17:04 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Endless OS – A Beautifully Unique Linux Distribution for Your Family http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115891 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2a4b161f-9dee-4b47-b36e-d170c4563d38] | Sep 25 17:05 | |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft is amazing! If gives you stuff FROM THE FUTURE | Sep 25 17:05 |
| r_schestowitz | Fw-cha'! | Sep 25 17:05 |
| sebsebseb | r_schestowitz: when ? | Sep 25 17:25 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: More Malware-Like Behaviour From Chrome and Firefox Introduces Firefox Monitor, Other News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115892 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d9e2da34-9399-4578-88b1-f3a6848f6a5d] | Sep 25 17:48 | |
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| *razielle_tzu reads some of the scrollback.. | Sep 25 18:50 | |
| razielle_tzu | sebsebseb, if irc is a waste of time... why do you still use it? | Sep 25 18:50 |
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| XRevan86 | https://habr.com/post/424395 huh | Sep 25 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-habr.com | Забирайте свои данные, отвязывайте почту и бегите с qip.ru / Хабр | Sep 25 19:11 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You were right, pochta.ru before 2015 was QIP's | Sep 25 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | it was then acquired by the Mail of Russia | Sep 25 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | https://twitter.com/ctavan/status/1044282084020441088 | Sep 25 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ctavan: "Clear all Cookies except Google Cookies", thanks Chrome. /cc @matthew_d_green https://t.co/tR0UJjtPFL | Sep 25 19:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ctavan: "Clear all Cookies except Google Cookies", thanks Chrome. /cc @matthew_d_green https://t.co/tR0UJjtPFL | Sep 25 19:22 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: very topical %) | Sep 25 21:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 22:01 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/548231.jpg | Sep 25 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: what? | Sep 25 22:07 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Too much sarcasm. | Sep 25 23:26 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: is there such a thing? | Sep 25 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yeah, right, like there isn't | Sep 25 23:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 25 23:55 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18072653 | Sep 26 00:15 |
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| cubexyz | I'm not worried about X11 | Sep 26 01:51 |
| cubexyz | except that it's overly complicated | Sep 26 01:52 |
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| cubexyz | ctrl-alt-+ used to cycle through the video modes | Sep 26 01:57 |
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| MinceR | it is, and at this rate nothing will be a suitable replacement | Sep 26 02:03 |
| MinceR | and it will just wither away | Sep 26 02:03 |
| MinceR | leaving the usual inferior inflexible crap for us | Sep 26 02:03 |
| cubexyz | I've archived a bunch of versions... | Sep 26 02:04 |
| MinceR | shitty windowing systems with a shitty window manager, a shitty compositor and a shitty widget toolkit built in | Sep 26 02:04 |
| MinceR | and if you're not lucky, even more shitty stuff built into it too | Sep 26 02:04 |
| cubexyz | you can download the xorg-server source code and roll your own | Sep 26 02:06 |
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| cubexyz | pieces of... the X Window System have been obsoleted before | Sep 26 02:08 |
| cubexyz | it has morphed a lot over the years | Sep 26 02:09 |
| cubexyz | X11R7.7 was released on June 6th, 2012 so that's a little worrisome | Sep 26 02:10 |
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| cubexyz | I'm still running xserver 1.4.X on a few systems | Sep 26 02:12 |
| cubexyz | the version numbering is a bit confusing :-/ | Sep 26 02:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | pieces of... the X Window System have been obsoleted before | Sep 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Actually, a lot of it has been dropped since X.org took over. Most of it was junk that nobody will ever miss. The focus is mostly on the X server itself though. | Sep 26 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XAA and the XPRINT stuff alone was over 300,000 source lines of code all by itself. They also dropped a binary interpreter for ELF, COFF, and a.out. | Sep 26 05:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I actually experienced the "screen locker crashes and exposes your desktop" problem the other day. | Sep 26 05:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 27 02:18 | |
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| cubexyz | https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/24/google-will-always-do-evil/ | Sep 27 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Google will always do evil | Sep 27 05:26 | |
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| schestowitz | > One more for today: | Sep 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.axios.com/cybersecurity-investment-google-ventures-snyk-alphabet-7018cb5f-b7bf-4006-be82-aaf8d9e60e0d.html | Sep 27 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Ventures invests in cybersecurity firm Snyk - Axios | Sep 27 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | > Google has really fallen. | Sep 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I saw what Google did there. I also remarked on this in tuxmachines and antisocial media. | Sep 27 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/netvooor/status/1045267934162161664] | Sep 27 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@netvooor: @schestowitz "Supply chains" does sound silly, but what's wrong with "ecosystem"? Can you elaborate on that? (Non… https://t.co/caamTeNg8R | Sep 27 12:09 | |
| schestowitz | ""Supply chains" does sound silly, but what's wrong with "ecosystem"? Can you elaborate on that? (Non-native here, maybe I don't hear some connotations.)" | Sep 27 12:09 |
| schestowitz | see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html under ecosystem | Sep 27 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Sep 27 12:09 | |
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| XRevan86 | > How we rolled out one of the largest Python 3 migrations ever | Sep 27 14:13 |
| XRevan86 | That will impact Python in no way at all? %) | Sep 27 14:13 |
| XRevan86 | Great title, Dropbox, nobody cares. | Sep 27 14:13 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/548617.jpg | Sep 27 14:20 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: John Lenin died young, so he kinda got himself disqualified | Sep 27 14:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 27 14:25 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: bad news | Sep 27 14:27 |
| schestowitz | the monitor is dying | Sep 27 14:27 |
| schestowitz | worthless by now | Sep 27 14:27 |
| schestowitz | I switched it off and now only use the external screen off that laptop | Sep 27 14:28 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Maybe you can replace it | Sep 27 14:29 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: as I said there was no way to tell how long it had left and not much could be done to stop the death. | Sep 27 14:33 |
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| schestowitz | now it looks like the issue might be related ti the GPU | Sep 27 14:46 |
| *MinceR wonders if there's a "Doom II" powerup in that MegaSphere game | Sep 27 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | because sometimes the external too has bouts of odd flickers | Sep 27 14:46 |
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| cubexyz | sometimes it's possible to replace the laptop's video card | Sep 27 15:08 |
| cubexyz | although if the GPU is soldered onto the motherboard... then no | Sep 27 15:11 |
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| cubexyz | there was also that MXM standard | Sep 27 15:16 |
| cubexyz | "mobile PCI express module" | Sep 27 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | [15:11] <cubexyz> although if the GPU is soldered onto the motherboard... then no | Sep 27 15:26 |
| schestowitz | I think it's onboard ATI | Sep 27 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | <li><h5><a href="https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/84645-why-didn-t-linux-foundation-chief-zemlin-pull-torvalds-into-line.html" rel="nofollow"></a></h5> | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | <p>Torvalds is not paid as highly as others would be in a commercial environment. Last year, he earned US$1.6 million, a small amount considering the amount of work he does, and the way in which he has built up the kernel project into a unit that can run without him being there. The man running Australia Post, a tiny enterprise compared to the kernel project, was drawing US$4.35 million when he quit last year. | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | </p> <p> | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin has fed off Torvalds' fame; who knows the name of any other individual associated with the Foundation? Zemlin has kept quiet all these years and hushed up everything that went on, afraid that the money spout would be blocked. </p> | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Sep 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | </li> | Sep 27 17:28 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18020139 | Sep 27 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 27 21:42 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/548613.jpg | Sep 27 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: She'd have to take down her child because of a copyright claim | Sep 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | suplex? | Sep 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | Or Warner Brothers will just take all the revenue her kid will ever make %( | Sep 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | %) | Sep 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | or DC | Sep 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Sep 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | or AT&R | Sep 27 22:09 |
| MinceR | s/R/T/ | Sep 27 22:09 |
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| MinceR | https://www.welivesecurity.com/2018/09/27/lojax-first-uefi-rootkit-found-wild-courtesy-sednit-group/ https://github.com/eset/malware-ioc/tree/master/sednit | Sep 28 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.welivesecurity.com | LoJax: First UEFI rootkit found in the wild, courtesy of the Sednit group | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-malware-ioc/sednit at master · eset/malware-ioc · GitHub | Sep 28 00:31 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that UEFI attack always brings me back to the question why does firmware have to be rewrite all the time. Think about it a simple push button on motherboard you have to press to update firmware to allow read/write of flash would stop attacks like this dead.\ | Sep 28 02:27 |
| oiaohm | we have had rootkits in firmware all the time we have had flash bios/efi chips. | Sep 28 02:28 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: mailing list message | Sep 28 05:39 |
| schestowitz | covered in omgubuntu and phoronix | Sep 28 05:39 |
| schestowitz | also sites of derivatives | Sep 28 05:39 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: "buttons are expensive" :> | Sep 28 06:59 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18013128 | Sep 28 07:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.filedropper.com/brothertiger-thismustbetheplacenaivemelody_1 ) | Sep 28 09:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Opus 1.3-rc2 at 160k | Sep 28 09:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The artist shared this as FLAC on Bandcamp. | Sep 28 09:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://brothertiger.bandcamp.com/track/this-must-be-the-place-naive-melody | Sep 28 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-brothertiger.bandcamp.com | This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) | Brothertiger | Sep 28 09:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | CC-BY-SA license | Sep 28 09:13 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/OverlordTha/status/1045717822838640640 | Sep 28 18:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: " #Facebook has confirmed it does in fact use phone numbers that users provided it for security purposes to also ta… https://t.co/IE2OQGwEZm | Sep 28 18:22 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012724 | Sep 28 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 28 21:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tegra194 "Xavier" Display Support Hits DRM-Next For Linux 4.20~5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116016 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4ed3617-89ec-4bad-8d9f-132990044db5] | Sep 28 21:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So? | Sep 28 21:05 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem | Sep 28 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | P versus NP problem - Wikipedia | Sep 28 21:05 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Sep 28 21:06 |
| MinceR | though they forgot about P=0 :> | Sep 28 21:06 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012723 | Sep 28 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 28 21:07 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There's some truth to that | Sep 28 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | Christian rhetoric changes and adjusts to newer biases, but the bible changes not. | Sep 28 21:13 |
| MinceR | yet it's held up as timeless and perfect | Sep 28 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You just have to *believe* that it's timeless and perfect %) | Sep 28 21:14 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 28 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Isn't that the nature of faith, to believe no matter what? :P | Sep 28 21:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 28 21:15 |
| MinceR | which is why it's so toxic | Sep 28 21:15 |
| MinceR | and destructive | Sep 28 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | It's great justification for ignorance | Sep 28 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | to not fix one's beliefs when reality proves one wrong | Sep 28 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | it gives a framework in which anything you want is true | Sep 28 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | there's an inferior race? sure thing, buddy, just apply some religion | Sep 28 21:18 |
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| XRevan86 | just say they live in sin or something | Sep 28 21:20 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Nuitka 0.60 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116018 [https://pleroma.site/objects/83e51c4c-1b1d-46e5-a976-cee37ad46461] | Sep 28 21:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine: Wine 3.17 and Steam Play/Proton Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116019 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0da51430-c4eb-4a3b-8cb1-effe709454ea] | Sep 28 21:26 | |
| XRevan86 | After all, that's kind of what Hitler did | Sep 28 21:28 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012661 | Sep 28 21:52 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMD: Heterogeneous Memory Management and #ROCm Linux Compute Stack http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116021 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca951546-8806-43d9-b090-e7fa42a835e4] | Sep 28 21:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: SDL2 and 'Ebony Spire: Heresy' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116022 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7aaecf94-27c4-412c-b5aa-ea25858a08b1] | Sep 28 21:57 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/T6dz6sL.gifv | Sep 28 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Sep 28 22:18 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012643 | Sep 28 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 28 22:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116024 [https://pleroma.site/objects/21167f99-7489-42fb-870b-ddd0f1d58a06] | Sep 28 22:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | http://toastytech.com/evil/rants.html | Sep 28 22:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-toastytech.com | Rants | Sep 28 22:59 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "For the kids who do not remember, here is how a useful, non abusive, | Sep 28 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "open with" dialog looks: | Sep 28 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | win95openwithdialog.png" | Sep 28 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I don't think I want to open that with SEAMON~1, whatever that is. :P | Sep 28 22:59 |
| MinceR | i'd rather not even run MICROS~1 | Sep 28 23:03 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/549326.jpg | Sep 28 23:09 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/549149.jpg | Sep 28 23:33 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012628 | Sep 29 00:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://download.gnome.org/core/3.30/3.30.1/NEWS | Sep 29 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Youtube began requiring media source extensions this week or else the videos won't play, so GNOME Web 3.30.1 now has MSE enabled by default. | Sep 29 01:10 |
| MinceR | what's that, DRM? | Sep 29 01:11 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/uknJxJ6.gifv | Sep 29 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Sep 29 01:16 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012624 | Sep 29 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 29 01:36 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012621 | Sep 29 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 29 01:57 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012546 | Sep 29 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 29 02:21 | |
| cubexyz | clear | Sep 29 02:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 29 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Source_Extensions | Sep 29 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Media Source Extensions - Wikipedia | Sep 29 03:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: No, it's useful on its own, but was made to work with EME DRM. | Sep 29 03:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, Youtube doesn't require the DRM....yet. | Sep 29 03:31 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.w3.org/TR/media-source/ | Sep 29 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Media Source Extensions™ | Sep 29 03:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jerry Smith, Microsoft Corporation | Sep 29 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHIzwJDgfVk | Sep 29 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUPERCUT: Jerry's Most Pathetic/Funny Moments - YouTube | Sep 29 03:37 | |
| MinceR | m$ in the w3c, what could possibly go wrong... | Sep 29 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The Jerry reference... | Sep 29 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Have you watched Rick & Morty? | Sep 29 03:39 |
| MinceR | no | Sep 29 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd probably like it. | Sep 29 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Basically, Mozilla and Opera are shut out of the W3C now and so are all independent browser makers. Netflix, Google, Microsoft, and Apple have taken it over and are trying to control everything on the web. | Sep 29 03:51 |
| MinceR | to be fair, they've given up already | Sep 29 03:52 |
| MinceR | opera gave up their own engine and effectively handed control to google | Sep 29 03:52 |
| MinceR | mozilla made sure that there's absolutely no reason for anyone to use their browser, as they've turned it into a crippled chrome clone | Sep 29 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I still use Firefox for reasons. | Sep 29 03:53 |
| MinceR | and then the people at opera who didn't like this made another chromium-based browser. why? nobody knows. | Sep 29 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of them being that it isn't vulnerable to ad reinsertion attacks via WebSockets. | Sep 29 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chrome is. | Sep 29 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You might have seen Taboola and Outbrain and a few others. | Sep 29 03:53 |
| MinceR | i've seen their domains | Sep 29 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The site detects people who blocked the ads and gives them even shittier ads disguised as "articles". | Sep 29 03:54 |
| MinceR | they could just post them as regular articles | Sep 29 03:54 |
| MinceR | but i guess that's just not resource-intensive enough | Sep 29 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Frequently herbal penis enlargements, "mortgage secrets they don't want you to know", and stuff like that. | Sep 29 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That any of these companies could be making money shows just how dumb the average person really is. | Sep 29 03:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 29 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | it looks like this loaf of bread will come out perfectly. I canceled the cycle on the last one because halfff of it was rising and the other half wasn't. :P | Sep 29 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just happens sometimes. | Sep 29 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had to wait for it to cool down because it was just beeping and displaying "HHH". | Sep 29 03:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://bartongeorge.io/2018/08/31/dell-precision-5530-developer-edition-now-available/ | Sep 29 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bartongeorge.io | Dell Precision 5530 Developer Edition Now Available! | Barton's Blog | Sep 29 04:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is there a reason why Dell can't ship a current operating system on their computers? | Sep 29 04:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-MS-DOS-GitHub | Sep 29 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Launches Open-Source MS-DOS On GitHub - Phoronix | Sep 29 04:18 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only DOS 1.25 and DOS 2.0. It's written in x86 assembler. Yuck. | Sep 29 04:18 |
| MinceR | the reason is that dHell can't do anything right | Sep 29 04:19 |
| MinceR | their hardware sucks, their attitude sucks, their warranty service is practically nonexistent | Sep 29 04:19 |
| cubexyz | one of my old Dell's still work | Sep 29 04:20 |
| cubexyz | Dell still sucks though :) | Sep 29 04:20 |
| cubexyz | just not 100% | Sep 29 04:21 |
| MinceR | well, somehow fujitsu managed to source pointing devices that are even worse than dHell's | Sep 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's not as bad as it once was. | Sep 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember when you could stick an ATX power supply in there and even plug it into the motherboard and then when you went to turn it on...."KAPOW!!!!"? | Sep 29 04:22 |
| MinceR | had to turn off most of the features on the fujitsu's touchpad so it doesn't keep spamming the system with phantom clicks | Sep 29 04:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Turned out that their power supplies were physically the same size and had all the same connectors, but everything was wired differently. | Sep 29 04:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 29 04:22 |
| MinceR | got to have that sweet lock-in | Sep 29 04:23 |
| MinceR | as cheaply as possible | Sep 29 04:23 |
| MinceR | lock-in is so great even the fsf approves of it! | Sep 29 04:23 |
| cubexyz | just imagine the general waste from used laptops | Sep 29 04:23 |
| MinceR | used phones too | Sep 29 04:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I went to vote yesterday and one of the questions was whether to ban plastic straws in Chicago. | Sep 29 04:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I selected Yes, but that's not really the big problem we're facing. :P | Sep 29 04:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just in fashion after that video with the sea turtle. | Sep 29 04:25 |
| MinceR | can't forbid the republicans from rolling coal, don't you know | Sep 29 04:25 |
| MinceR | religious freedom and all that | Sep 29 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: We have emissions testing and that's an instant fail. | Sep 29 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you see a coal roller in Chicago, it has an Indiana plate. | Sep 29 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fortunately, the three bordering counties in Indiana have to smog test too. | Sep 29 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's a buffer. | Sep 29 04:26 |
| cubexyz | the Dell motherboard outlasted the QDI motherboard | Sep 29 04:32 |
| cubexyz | both from 2001, both P3's | Sep 29 04:32 |
| cubexyz | this Dell would have ended up in the trash if I hadn't repurposed it as my IRC box | Sep 29 04:32 |
| cubexyz | of course I also have a horrible Dell Dimension laptop, which overheated and cooked the video card | Sep 29 04:34 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that would not be fujitsu with Elantech touchpads? | Sep 29 04:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: those are fun beasts wrong driver detect results in touchpad status messages turning into clicks. | Sep 29 04:48 |
| cubexyz | the ibm thinkpad's trackpoint idea was probably better | Sep 29 04:50 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.lifewire.com/atx-24-pin-12v-power-supply-pinout-2624578 I rember some dell where the powersupply was in fact perfectly to spec. The option -5 volt pin 20 was required.\ | Sep 29 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifewire.com | 24 pin Motherboard Power Connector Pinout | Sep 29 05:00 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: yes no -5 volt and the motherboard went into failed. | Sep 29 05:00 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: the bins of those dos versions on github include microsoft masm and link of that time frame of course they did not include the source code of those. | Sep 29 05:02 |
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| schestowitz | [05:00] <oiaohm> DaemonFC[m]: https://www.lifewire.com/atx-24-pin-12v-power-supply-pinout-2624578 I rember some dell where the powersupply was in fact perfectly to spec. The option -5 volt pin 20 was required.\ | Sep 29 10:18 |
| schestowitz | My laptop is dying | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | HP | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | As of this week, no monitor and keyboard is full og bust keys | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | So I use external keyboard and monitor | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | The laptop sits on the floor like nothing but a desktop | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | connected to screen and keyboard wires | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | but still chugging along | Sep 29 10:19 |
| schestowitz | no data loss on drive | Sep 29 10:19 |
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| amarsh04 | just had to replace my monitor as the DVI-D input died and I use all 3 inputs | Sep 29 10:35 |
| amarsh04 | old one was from early 2010 so not a terrible lifetime, but the old one still puts out a good image on the VGA and HDMI inputs | Sep 29 10:36 |
| amarsh04 | from those inputs... | Sep 29 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: replace as in throw away? | Sep 29 11:58 |
| schestowitz | Or did you give that to something or somehow else? | Sep 29 11:58 |
| schestowitz | I never throw away computer stuff until it's totally bust and beyond repair... a pet peeve of mine, I suppose... | Sep 29 11:58 |
| schestowitz | (maybe makes me a lot less productive) | Sep 29 11:59 |
| cubexyz | you'd be surprised what's possible | Sep 29 12:07 |
| cubexyz | an associate of mine fixed an arcade pcb that had bullet holes in it | Sep 29 12:08 |
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| MinceR_ | oiaohm: dunno, it's on windows | Sep 29 17:14 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1801256 | Sep 29 18:17 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/qMdwlQt.gifv | Sep 29 18:30 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18012444 | Sep 29 18:48 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/549478.jpg | Sep 29 19:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Depends on the term | Sep 29 19:20 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/549333.png | Sep 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18080312 | Sep 29 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: JM Valin responded to someone who noticed that Opus 1.3-RC wouldn't compile with Visual Studio that none of them noticed because they don't have a copy of Windows to test with. | Sep 29 21:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's funny to see that Windows is an implementation detail that someone else is probably going to have to bother with. | Sep 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's certain that someone will make sure that Opus works on Windows. | Sep 29 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still people submitting patches to LAME to make sure that it continues working on OS/2. | Sep 29 21:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wine-3.17-Released | Sep 29 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Valve is now submitting patches to Wine since they're using it to get games that were never ported from Windows to run on Steam for Mac and Linux. | Sep 29 21:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Wine developers made this observation years ago in their FAQ section when asked if it would take interest away from doing native ports, and they said it would actually make lots of software work on non-Windows systems where the developers were never interested in doing a port, period. | Sep 29 21:20 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: maybe people should just let winblows go | Sep 29 21:41 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18080313 | Sep 29 21:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: working aroudn the wine project you find something really old is that people still turn up asking about windows 3.11 applications | Sep 29 22:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: so windows applications that don't run directly under current windows. | Sep 29 22:22 |
| oiaohm | So its not just porting applications to Linux that is problem. Long term maintenance of applications people still use is another problem. | Sep 29 22:23 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18080321 | Sep 29 22:27 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18080346 | Sep 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wine removed Windows 1.x and 2.x support quite some time ago. | Sep 29 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not a guarantee that Windows 3.x programs will work with it forever. | Sep 29 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I actually ran into a bug one time involving the mouse cursor working incorrectly in a video game that was made for Windows XP and it was closed WONTFIX at the time because fixing that would break Windows 1.x and 2.x applications. | Sep 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked why they would prioritize that over Windows XP support and never got an answer. | Sep 29 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine there'd be more people in favor of preserving Windows 1.x and 2.x application support than XP application support. | Sep 29 22:58 |
| MinceR | i can't imagine there's no way to have some sort of configuration options for wine for this stuff | Sep 29 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: At the time, the default Windows Version that Wine fed to applications _was_ Windows XP. | Sep 29 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's Windows 7 now. | Sep 29 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They skipped over Vista entirely, although you could set it yourself. | Sep 29 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I was reading the notes for the current HexChat release. | Sep 29 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a Windows Store app version of it now. They said that some users complained that their computer was running Windows 10 "S" Mode and couldn't run anything that they didn't get through the store. | Sep 29 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He wanted to do a donation option, but the only thing the Windows Store allowed was to put in a "trial" version and a registered version, so you can use it in "trial" mode forever with no features disabled, and "register" it, but Microsoft gets 30%. | Sep 29 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, the Windows Store version doesn't support the scripting plug-ins for python and perl. | Sep 29 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft has tried putting John's laptop in "S" mode three times now, always after major system updates. | Sep 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It keeps resetting it to "Only allow apps from the Windows Store". | Sep 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Last time, it stopped me from installing an Nvidia driver, warning that it may be a virus and that the only way to be sure it wasn't was to look for it in the Windows Store. | Sep 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Nvidia driver distributed by Microsoft was buggy and caused Cities Skylines and many other games to simply crash with a bizarre "out of memory" error. | Sep 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would get through part of the "loading textures" process and say it ran out of memory. | Sep 29 23:07 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18092839 | Sep 29 23:13 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: So? | Sep 29 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems like Ogg Vorbis is mostly dead upstream. | Sep 29 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some minor bug fixes but that's about it. | Sep 29 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They haven't been interested in tuning for better quality in....years. | Sep 29 23:21 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Are you hinting at Ogg Opus? %) | Sep 29 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I'm moving to that for portable listening, including in the car. | Sep 29 23:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's clear that upstream no longer has any interest in Vorbis. | Sep 29 23:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CELT algorithm got folded into Opus and gets used whenever music is detected or when you override the auto-detection with --music at low bitrates. | Sep 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's largely based on the CELP codec that was used by Skype. From what I understand, they got a worldwide irrevocable patent license for CELP patent from Skype before Microsoft bought it. | Sep 29 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As long as it's used as part of Opus. | Sep 29 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By the time the "only as part of Opus" part could start to matter, the patents will be expired anyway. | Sep 29 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Actually, many already are expired, apparently. | Sep 29 23:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of them this year. | Sep 29 23:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was able to find at least one that expires October 17th, 2020. | Sep 29 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://patents.google.com/patent/US6134518A | Sep 29 23:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sep 29 23:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | An IBM patent. | Sep 29 23:32 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/VNtFEpi.gifv | Sep 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One that expires October 30th, 2021, belonging to Nokia. | Sep 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://patents.google.com/patent/US6311154B1 | Sep 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | June 6, 2020, belonging to Google. | Sep 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://patents.google.com/patent/US6073092A | Sep 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://patents.google.com/patent/US6879955B2/ | Sep 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | April 12, 2025 belonging to Microsoft | Sep 29 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | December 7, 2024 belonging to Dilithium Networks. | Sep 29 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ouch, an April 2nd 2028 one from Dilithium Networks. | Sep 29 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And an August 11, 2029 one belonging to Texas Instruments. | Sep 29 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A March 18th, 2030 for a GH Innovation, Inc. | Sep 29 23:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | An October 11, 2031 for Panasonic | Sep 29 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | October 4th, 2032 for a Ralf Geiger | Sep 29 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's one for December 2032 belonging to United Technologies, but the scope seems limited. | Sep 29 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It involves using a CELP algorithm to detect faults in a turbine engine. Not really applicable to Opus. | Sep 29 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks like one of these goes into 2036, but I'm not sure if it applies here or not. | Sep 29 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of these could be worked around, but Xiph says that they got patent licenses from all relevant parties. Let's hope so. :/ | Sep 29 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some seemed kind of dodgy to me because they were very specific in specifying a way to do something, and sometimes there's another way to get the same result. Not always. | Sep 29 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems like the safer route would have been to continue improving Vorbis. | Sep 29 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Vorbis had been around since the late 90s, so patent concerns on the format are done and over with, for sure. | Sep 29 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google is not interested in making Android fully compliant with RFC 7845 anyway. | Sep 29 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It clearly states that opus is to be used with a .opus extension, but the only way to get the Android system codecs to acknowledge it is by giving the file a .ogg extension, which is specifically not allowed by RFC 7845. | Sep 29 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And Apple went and did something even worse. | Sep 29 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Opus has to be in a Core Audio container or else iPhones and Safari won't play it. | Sep 29 23:51 |
| MinceR | i'm surprised crApple's garbage even plays it | Sep 29 23:51 |
| MinceR | they seemed to be adamant at pushing MPEG-LA codecs | Sep 29 23:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will play FLAC if it's in a Core Audio container. | Sep 29 23:52 |
| MinceR | do they support webm yet? | Sep 29 23:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No. | Sep 29 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Google and Mozilla don't support h.265 though, so HTML 5 video is defaulting to h.264/aac now. | Sep 29 23:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Because it's the closest thing to a guarantee that you'll get since the W3C was too much of a captured agency to specify open codecs. | Sep 29 23:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Making an HTML 5 media spec without codecs means that it's a free-for-all. | Sep 29 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much the opposite of a "standard". | Sep 29 23:55 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/FX7YIhl.gifv | Sep 29 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Google was going to remove MPEG-4 support from Chrome aand then didn't. | Sep 29 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have so much money that they can easily pay the royalties. | Sep 29 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then Mozilla got the idea to just support anything the underlying OS does. | Sep 29 23:56 |
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