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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/YYU0IHC.jpgAug 26 00:12
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DaemonFC[m]maybe the nazis are trying to establish a system where the poor die early and the rich buy private health careAug 26 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Like we have here.Aug 26 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Maybe Rammstein was right. We're all living in America....Aug 26 00:34
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I wanted to visit but now I don't have to %)Aug 26 00:36
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021262Aug 26 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 00:38
DaemonFC[m]Yep, yep. Putie Poot has a puppet in the White House that makes us less free and more like Russia every day.Aug 26 00:38
XRevan86https://vk.com/video_ext.php?oid=-54036611&id=456244095&hash=a20a28009f4ffe77Aug 26 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VK | Video ExtAug 26 00:41
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Rural America on the videoAug 26 00:41
MinceR25 235035 <@MinceR> it works, but it gets worse every yearAug 26 00:42
MinceRoh, also, public dental care is next to nonexistentAug 26 00:42
MinceRpretty much all they do is remove teethAug 26 00:42
MinceRso everyone who can afford it uses private dental care insteadAug 26 00:42
*XRevan86 doesn't know what public dental care does here.Aug 26 00:43
*XRevan86 doesn't risk it.Aug 26 00:43
MinceR:>Aug 26 00:43
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021247Aug 26 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 01:00
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schestowitz[20:22] <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/Cxd4m72.jpgAug 26 01:06
schestowitzWhat DM?Aug 26 01:06
XRevan86Dungeon Master?Aug 26 01:06
XRevan86probably not Display Manager or Direct Message :)Aug 26 01:07
schestowitzthanks, makes sense nowAug 26 01:10
schestowitzXRevan86: yeah, also Direct MessageAug 26 01:10
cubexyzDM = one decimetre :)Aug 26 01:14
XRevan86I'd spell it "dm" thoughAug 26 01:16
XRevan86non-capitalisedAug 26 01:16
MinceRwhat XRevan86 saidAug 26 01:20
MinceRit's trademarked by TSR/WoTC/Hasbro, thoughAug 26 01:20
MinceRafaikAug 26 01:21
XRevan86Dungeon MonkeyAug 26 01:22
XRevan86here's one way to work around that :)Aug 26 01:22
XRevan86Like Code Monkey but Dungeon MonkeyAug 26 01:23
MinceRGame Master is the usual wayAug 26 01:23
XRevan86MinceR: The abbreviation changes thoughAug 26 01:24
cubexyzTSR is defunct evidentlyAug 26 01:24
MinceRindeedAug 26 01:24
MinceRit's a general term thoughAug 26 01:24
MinceRafaik TSR was bought by WoTC, which was in turn bought by HasbroAug 26 01:25
XRevan86MinceR: That explains DnD in MLP:FiMAug 26 01:26
cubexyzyeah, Hasbro has become the Microsoft of toys and gamesAug 26 01:26
XRevan86https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2016/8/18/1228075.pngAug 26 01:27
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MinceRthey don't seem to be quite as incompetent thoughAug 26 01:39
MinceRthen again, it's a major challenge to be as incompetent as microsoftAug 26 01:40
cubexyzthey are anti-userAug 26 01:40
MinceRD&D 3.x wasn't anti-userAug 26 01:41
cubexyzalso didn't D&D rip off Tolkien?Aug 26 01:43
XRevan86Who didn't?Aug 26 01:44
cubexyzhumans, dwarf, elf and hobbit... sound familiar?Aug 26 01:44
XRevan86cubexyz: Yeah, Heroes of Might and MagicAug 26 01:44
MinceRTolkien didn't invent all of that eitherAug 26 01:46
MinceRfor example, there was The Broken Sword by Poul AndersonAug 26 01:46
cubexyzboth are from 1954 so I don't think either one ripped off the other in that caseAug 26 01:48
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_fiction#Modern_fantasyAug 26 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fantasy - WikipediaAug 26 01:48
MinceRsure, but both were cited as influences for D&D, iircAug 26 01:49
cubexyzthere was another earlier book... trying to rememberAug 26 01:49
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_and_influences_on_the_development_of_Dungeons_%26_Dragons#Theme_and_fictional_elementsAug 26 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sources and influences on the development of Dungeons & Dragons - WikipediaAug 26 01:50
cubexyz"The Well at the World's End"Aug 26 01:54
cubexyzthat's the one I was thinking ofAug 26 01:54
cubexyzDjinn's and Efreet were in HOMM3Aug 26 01:57
cubexyzand necromancers...Aug 26 01:57
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cubexyzevidently there are trees that can move around a bitAug 26 02:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Jerome Glisse's Work and a Move to Gitlab http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114916 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9c23d49-32ed-42c5-a8f7-c5ac24b29d93]Aug 26 02:11
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XRevan86https://pleroma.site/notice/3950824Aug 26 13:48
XRevan86huh, https://onenewsnow.com/ doesn't open for meAug 26 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OneNewsNow.com - Your News Right NowAug 26 13:48
XRevan86> isitblockedinrussia.com: No, https://onenewsnow.com/ is probably not blocked in Russia.Aug 26 13:49
XRevan86Yeah, didn't think so.Aug 26 13:49
XRevan86Ironic that the article is about censorship, and it blocks me from accessing it :)Aug 26 13:50
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schestowitzyeahAug 26 14:31
schestowitzhappens in eu alsoAug 26 14:31
schestowitzdue to gdprAug 26 14:31
schestowitzesp. local news sites in the us that deal with censorshipAug 26 14:32
schestowitzcynical and ironicAug 26 14:32
XRevan86schestowitz: Double-think at its best. It's bad when censorship is done by others.Aug 26 14:35
XRevan86Rephrase: Censorship is bad when it is done by others.Aug 26 14:36
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021237Aug 26 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 18:31
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18021219Aug 26 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 19:03
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/sNoS1IJ.jpgAug 26 19:08
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18020740Aug 26 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 21:03
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18020730Aug 26 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 21:28
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802073Aug 26 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 21:47
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18020552Aug 26 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 22:08
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jcAug 26 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Meet Achmed the Dead Terrorist" | Spark of Insanity | JEFF DUNHAM - YouTubeAug 26 22:25
MinceRoops, wrong link, this is the right one >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-e6QeKvcKsAug 26 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"The Real Bubba J" | Arguing with Myself | JEFF DUNHAM - YouTubeAug 26 22:25
MinceRhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/366866974812405761/483216544839499776/7plus_N7___Necroms_must_die___by_AKB8.pngAug 26 22:26
XRevan86MinceR: Joke's on you, with Secure Boot it is impossible to boot Windows Vista.Aug 26 22:30
MinceR:)Aug 26 22:30
MinceRi don't think Necrons are evil enough to have Restricted BootAug 26 22:31
XRevan86MinceR: Maybe they're running MIPSAug 26 22:31
MinceRthat's more of an Imperium thingAug 26 22:31
XRevan86or RISC-VAug 26 22:31
XRevan86or anything else that is not x86Aug 26 22:31
MinceRthat said, i doubt they have computers in themAug 26 22:31
MinceRthey're just undead made of some metal-like substance (Necrodermis?)Aug 26 22:32
XRevan86MinceR: metal golems then?Aug 26 22:32
MinceRsomething like thatAug 26 22:32
XRevan86> "Meet Achmed the Dead Terrorist"Aug 26 22:34
XRevan86The doll is coolAug 26 22:34
XRevan86jokes aren't…Aug 26 22:34
XRevan86even those from Monty Python and the Holy GrailAug 26 22:35
XRevan86the joke about spelling I didn't get at allAug 26 22:36
MinceRyour loss :>Aug 26 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: What does it mean?Aug 26 22:37
MinceRwhich one?Aug 26 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: the spelling jokeAug 26 22:38
MinceRthe one about Castle Aaaaaughh?Aug 26 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: The "ay, ci, flemkh" oneAug 26 22:38
MinceRi don't recognize thatAug 26 22:39
XRevan86MinceR: https://youtu.be/GBvfiCdk-jc?t=1m22sAug 26 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Meet Achmed the Dead Terrorist" | Spark of Insanity | JEFF DUNHAM - YouTubeAug 26 22:40
MinceRit's "phlegm"Aug 26 22:41
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhlegmAug 26 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Phlegm - WikipediaAug 26 22:41
XRevan86MinceR: huhAug 26 22:48
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/zzOSYP6.gifvAug 26 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | This is my cat Beerus! He likes to chatter at birds and dragonflies.Aug 26 23:03
XRevan86MinceR: Typical :)Aug 26 23:21
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802055Aug 26 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 26 23:32
MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1108.htmlAug 27 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground GamesAug 27 00:08
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Carl Chenet: FOSS: passive consumerism kills our community http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114927 #freesw #debian [https://pleroma.site/objects/92bbec9c-0932-4650-abac-464471720e2e]Aug 27 01:30
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.pcworld.com/article/125772/worst_products_ever.html?page=6Aug 27 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The 25 Worst Tech Products of All Time | PCWorldAug 27 02:00
DaemonFC[m]"Underpowered, overpriced, and underutilized--that pretty much describes everything that came out of Apple in the mid-90s."Aug 27 02:01
DaemonFC[m]And now...Aug 27 02:01
DaemonFC[m]The only difference is that people are finally dumb enough to pay it.Aug 27 02:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software Freedom: Federation, Fediverse, #CommonsClause and #FreeBSD DRM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/114932 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3e32d5c5-3933-4715-a2e6-29e4fcef977f]Aug 27 02:38
DaemonFC[m]There's a new scam that says they're your bank and there's a debit card recall because it could catch fire in your pocket, and you need to mail it in to a "Safety Manager" in Bangalore, India, and write down your PIN for them. :)Aug 27 02:39
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 26/8/2018: Linux 4.19 RC1, UBports Release of Ubuntu Touch OTA-4 http://techrights.org/2018/08/26/linux-4-19-rc1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d215caa-81f3-42d7-8a72-151f39cef27f]Aug 27 02:44
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: really that could be fun to send them a jane doe card.   You know the ones that are ATM validation cards.   You put them in the machine you run though all the processes and the machine counts the money prints reciept then puts the money back inside.Aug 27 05:35
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: please note jane doe cards in epos also come up declined due to over drawn.Aug 27 05:39
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MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1113.htmlAug 27 06:44
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/49572416e855cbc491b5f8cec4e591fd6e1acba0Aug 27 06:59
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MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1116.htmlAug 27 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground GamesAug 27 07:12
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/XLMrjlEAug 27 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Didn’t expect them to sound like house cats - Album on ImgurAug 27 07:32
MinceRhttp://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1119.htmlAug 27 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.giantitp.com | Giant In the Playground GamesAug 27 08:00
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XRevan86> What Linux does better than WindowsAug 27 19:23
XRevan86Everything except hiberation :)Aug 27 19:23
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schestowitz[19:23] <XRevan86> Everything except hiberation :)Aug 27 19:43
schestowitzdue to hardware companiesAug 27 19:43
schestowitzrather than Linux itselfAug 27 19:43
XRevan86schestowitz: What do you mean?Aug 27 19:45
XRevan86(by hibernation I mean suspend-to-disc)Aug 27 19:45
schestowitzyeahAug 27 19:47
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MinceRdo people even use suspend-to-disk?Aug 27 21:21
XRevan86MinceR: When their laptop died and they're too used to having all their stuff preserved between runs %)Aug 27 21:23
MinceR:)Aug 27 21:25
MinceRthat's when i just leave it turned onAug 27 21:25
XRevan86and when they cannot trust that someone from their family won't flip the power switchAug 27 21:27
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MinceRthat's why it's in my bedroom :>Aug 27 21:55
MinceRbut even if it wasn't, i'd lock the roomAug 27 21:56
oiaohmMinceR: windows 7 started automatically suspending to disc instead of shutdown to make reboots faster.Aug 27 23:08
oiaohmMinceR: you find this out when you attempt to alter password in windows 7 and you need to start the system up choose reboot to get registery in configuration to be modified.Aug 27 23:08
oiaohmMinceR: as just requesting a shutdown can be hybernated so keeping registery locked.Aug 27 23:09
MinceRgood thing i don't use Backdoors7Aug 27 23:09
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802048Aug 27 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 27 23:30
XRevan86Ah, yes, Windows 7, another thing that won't boot with Secure Boot %).Aug 27 23:31
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/4bsCVek.jpgAug 27 23:36
XRevan86MinceR: What if it's mechanicalAug 27 23:38
MinceRwith high enough voltage, you can probably make it smokeAug 27 23:39
XRevan86MinceR: That's cheatingAug 27 23:40
MinceRno it's notAug 27 23:40
MinceRit's "wrong enough"Aug 27 23:40
XRevan86MinceR: But that's not operating the machineAug 27 23:40
MinceRsure it isAug 27 23:40
MinceRin a way that produces smoke, evenAug 27 23:41
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MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2017/09/13/what-a-savingsAug 28 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - What A SavingsAug 28 00:00
oiaohmXRevan86: I have seen a wind mill smoke due to lightning strike.Aug 28 00:04
oiaohmXRevan86: and taht is pure mechnical.Aug 28 00:04
oiaohmXRevan86: nice big grease fire.Aug 28 00:04
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2017/09/22/market-penetrationAug 28 00:53
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oiaohmI wish I had remembered to take a screen shot.   I just had a CD-r meta data tell me  that the disc was 1EiB in size.Aug 28 02:54
oiaohmJust a little outAug 28 02:55
XRevan86oiaohm: I've seen an SD card Android estimated to have an obscenely large Music directory with "du -h". Not that unusual %).Aug 28 03:03
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XRevan86Finally I've found an FS with CoW that's not a disaster like btrfs – XFS + -m reflink=1Aug 28 03:06
XRevan86And not ZFSAug 28 03:07
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oiaohmXRevan86: the work to teach XFS new tricks is still on going.  https://lwn.net/Articles/747633/   that XFS + -m reflink-1 is work in this direction.Aug 28 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New tricks for XFS [LWN.net]Aug 28 04:38
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MinceR28 035446 <+oiaohm> I wish I had remembered to take a screen shot.   I just had a CD-r meta data tell me  that the disc was 1EiB in size.Aug 28 06:53
MinceRi had floppies like thatAug 28 06:53
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/WNjueTc.jpgAug 28 06:55
schestowitznot yours...Aug 28 07:09
MinceRtheir ownAug 28 07:10
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18020326Aug 28 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 28 07:13
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2017/11/10/a-double-edged-khopeshAug 28 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - A Double-Edged KhopeshAug 28 07:35
MinceR> So a horse walks into a bar and the bartender asks "are you an alcoholic, given all the bars you frequent?" The horse gets angry and says "I think not!" And then *poof* the horse disappears. This is, of course, a reference to the philosophical proposition "cogito ergo sum" or more colloquially, "I think therefore I am" but to explain that beforehand would be to put Descartes before the horseAug 28 07:59
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2017/12/22/on-the-worst-day-of-christmas-part-oneAug 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - On The Worst Day of Christmas, Part OneAug 28 08:14
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XRevan86oiaohm: Indeed.Aug 28 12:25
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cubexyzhttp://mentalfloss.com/article/68930/why-preserving-old-computer-games-surprisingly-difficultAug 28 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mentalfloss.com | Why Preserving Old Computer Games is Surprisingly Difficult | Mental FlossAug 28 15:07
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MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2018/01/22/tubethumpingAug 28 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - TubethumpingAug 28 19:28
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MinceRhttps://78.media.tumblr.com/b46844bd535b95c268a466052fb5f773/tumblr_ozf8hgOy301s6ylubo1_1280.jpgAug 28 19:57
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schestowitzkaniini: pleroma is downAug 29 17:12
schestowitzI'm sure you are aware already, just wanted to know if eta is knownAug 29 17:13
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/web/statuses/newAug 29 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://pleroma.site/web/statuses/new )Aug 29 17:14
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kaniinischestowitz should be fixed now, sorryAug 29 18:39
kaniinii'm not sure why it deadlockedAug 29 18:39
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schestowitzkaniini: cheers for getting back online, first such issue I encounteredAug 29 19:03
kaniinithe VM kept running out of diskAug 29 19:03
kaniiniit seems that postgres does not do any form of compression on the JSON objects it storesAug 29 19:04
schestowitz" Today is the first time I experience #pleroma downtime. First time I see glitches. Otherwise, other than that, the software seems reliable enough. Even more reliable than #twitter with its legion of engineers (and censors)."Aug 29 19:04
schestowitzI didn't repost what was left out while it was downAug 29 19:04
schestowitzas that might drown some people from instances which were up at the timeAug 29 19:04
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kaniinigoing to schedule a brief interruption this evening to grow the diskAug 29 19:05
schestowitzok, headsup would helpAug 29 19:05
kaniiniyeah it will be in a few hoursAug 29 19:07
schestowitzcheers, npAug 29 19:09
schestowitzanyway, I never had issues before accessing the siteAug 29 19:09
schestowitzgnusocial.de had many issuesAug 29 19:09
schestowitzand I think that's why it was "put to sleep"Aug 29 19:09
schestowitzmust have taken him ages to fix it each timeAug 29 19:09
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kaniinilinode doesn't offer expanding the disk anymore.  i have to resize it instead.  grr.Aug 29 19:17
kaniinimaybe i should just set up a machine at work for thisAug 29 19:17
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802039Aug 29 19:48
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schestowitzkaniini: down for maintenance?Aug 29 19:50
kaniiniyesAug 29 19:50
schestowitzhow long? under 1 hour?Aug 29 19:50
kaniinidoing some work in postgres to clean up the database fragmentationAug 29 19:50
schestowitzthanksAug 29 19:50
kaniiniuhh, probably 5 minutes or soAug 29 19:51
kaniinishould be coming back up nowAug 29 19:51
schestowitzcool!Aug 29 19:51
schestowitzkaniini: backAug 29 19:52
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XRevan86MinceR: I wonder if that's a real ChristianAug 29 19:59
MinceRdepends on how you define "real christian"Aug 29 20:00
XRevan86MinceR: Whether that was said unironicallyAug 29 20:00
MinceRdunnoAug 29 20:00
MinceRbut it's mostly in line with scriptureAug 29 20:00
XRevan86MinceR: Indeed, but I'd be surprised to hear something like that from a Russian Orthodox priest, and that's saying somethingAug 29 20:01
MinceRdo they treat this like the clams treat xenu? :>Aug 29 20:02
XRevan86MinceR: Who are they?Aug 29 20:04
MinceRrussian orthodox priestsAug 29 20:05
MinceRor did you mean the clams?Aug 29 20:05
SopaXorzTakerHi schestowitz!Aug 29 20:06
SopaXorzTakerSomeone dared to call you paranoid once, that's an achievement :PAug 29 20:07
XRevan86MinceR: clams and xenuAug 29 20:08
MinceRclams are scientologists; xenu is one of their mythical figures they don't like people talking aboutAug 29 20:09
XRevan86MinceR: Why do you call them like that?Aug 29 20:10
DaemonFC[m]Don't forget squirrels.Aug 29 20:10
XRevan86scientologists and molluscs, I don't see the connection :)Aug 29 20:10
MinceRi'll dig it up as soon as my internet access stops suckingAug 29 20:11
MinceRXRevan86: http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html#faq14Aug 29 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xenu.net | Operation Clambake presents: Frequently Asked QuestionsAug 29 20:11
XRevan86MinceR: I'd imagine a priest would say something like "G-d doesn't give one impossible tasks, so you were molested when 10 years old to grow stronger as a person or something"Aug 29 20:13
DaemonFC[m]https://news.softpedia.com/news/why-you-should-never-use-a-cheap-unbranded-battery-in-your-phone-522417.shtmlAug 29 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Why You Should Never Use a Cheap, Unbranded Battery in Your PhoneAug 29 20:13
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but the $29 replacement iPhone battery isn't being honored in many cases.Aug 29 20:13
DaemonFC[m]Customers come in and an Apple employee says "We can't replace the battery because your phone is scratched."Aug 29 20:13
XRevan86MinceR: Or something about daring to understand G-d's plansAug 29 20:13
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XRevan86MinceR: I see.Aug 29 20:14
XRevan86MinceR: "clam" is most fittingAug 29 20:15
MinceRXRevan86: they don't talk about "the original sin"?Aug 29 20:15
XRevan86MinceR: Probably not in this contextAug 29 20:16
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XRevan86MinceR: Priests understand not to alienate possible clientaleAug 29 20:16
XRevan86clienteleAug 29 20:16
MinceRsame as with the xenu storyAug 29 20:17
MinceRit's better to tell the cultists when they're already investedAug 29 20:17
MinceRthen cognitive dissonance will make them believe it's not total horseshit, even though it isAug 29 20:18
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1802038Aug 29 20:19
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XRevan86MinceR: I see you've found an Apple vanAug 29 20:19
MinceR:)Aug 29 20:19
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schestowitz[20:07] <SopaXorzTaker> Someone dared to call you paranoid once, that's an achievement :PAug 29 20:29
schestowitzI can think of one person who used that slur (ish)Aug 29 20:30
SopaXorzTakerwell?Aug 29 20:30
SopaXorzTakerme? :PAug 29 20:30
schestowitz[20:13] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, but the $29 replacement iPhone battery isn't being honored in many cases.Aug 29 20:30
schestowitzDon't use mobile phones at allAug 29 20:30
schestowitzThey can cause cancer if used heavily, esp near the headAug 29 20:31
MinceR[citation needed]Aug 29 20:31
schestowitzbattery fires and explosions are rare and less fatalAug 29 20:31
schestowitzMinceR: there was yet another comprehensive study recentlyAug 29 20:31
schestowitzfrom SwitzerlandAug 29 20:31
SopaXorzTaker<schestowitz> Don't use mobile phones at allAug 29 20:31
SopaXorzTaker<schestowitz> They can cause cancer if used heavily, esp near the headAug 29 20:31
SopaXorzTakerProof?Aug 29 20:31
SopaXorzTakerPeer-reviewed papers || that's falseAug 29 20:32
schestowitzhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-studies-link-cell-phone-radiation-with-cancer/Aug 29 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scientificamerican.com | New Studies Link Cell Phone Radiation with Cancer - Scientific AmericanAug 29 20:32
schestowitzhttps://www.hindustantimes.com/fitness/can-your-cellphone-give-you-cancer-here-s-the-answer/story-YRcVJkn7Ec53HYVkAJywoJ.htmlAug 29 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | Can mobile phones cause cancer? This new study says yes, raises fresh fears | fitness | Hindustan TimesAug 29 20:32
schestowitzhttps://techcrunch.com/2018/02/02/nih-study-links-cell-phone-radiation-to-cancer-in-male-rats/Aug 29 20:32
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cubexyzI don't use cell phones for a more mundane reasonAug 29 20:33
cubexyzno cradleAug 29 20:33
schestowitzit's worse when not idleAug 29 20:33
schestowitze.g. on callAug 29 20:33
schestowitzor mobile InternetAug 29 20:33
schestowitzthe newer the worse in some cases, depending on useAug 29 20:33
SopaXorzTakerschestowitz, link a paper or that's speculationAug 29 20:33
MinceRpeople rarely hold them to their heads while browsing or typing, thoughAug 29 20:33
cubexyzalso yeah, holding a microwave transceiver close to your brain doesn't sound goodAug 29 20:33
SopaXorzTaker(not that radiating RF into one's head sounds like a good idea at all)Aug 29 20:34
schestowitzHey, Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party) too was called "paranoid" for even bringing up the subjectAug 29 20:34
SopaXorzTakerschestowitz, she has a nice reputation for other reasons tooAug 29 20:34
schestowitzthe relativists say.. other things cause cancer too, maybe moreAug 29 20:34
schestowitzbut that's a poor defenseAug 29 20:34
SopaXorzTakerschestowitz, life is found to cause cancerAug 29 20:34
SopaXorzTakeror even deathAug 29 20:35
SopaXorzTakerwith 100% mortality ratesAug 29 20:35
cubexyznot very repairable either... many reasons to not like cell phonesAug 29 20:35
schestowitzyou can reduce the risk of cells replicating in that wayAug 29 20:35
schestowitznot just detection and removal of tumoursAug 29 20:35
SopaXorzTakerthis doesn't mean we all must die :PAug 29 20:35
SopaXorzTakerWell, why care?Aug 29 20:35
schestowitz[20:34] <SopaXorzTaker> schestowitz, life is found to cause cancerAug 29 20:35
schestowitzThis is a nihilist stanceAug 29 20:35
schestowitzrather than a legitimate counter-argumentAug 29 20:36
MinceRno, that has nothing to do with nihilismAug 29 20:36
schestowitzsome cancers like skin cancer are easier to spot and removeAug 29 20:36
schestowitzinside the skull it isn'tAug 29 20:36
schestowitznot even the lungsAug 29 20:37
schestowitzonce upon a time you [NEED CITATION] for smoking causes cancerAug 29 20:37
cubexyzgoes back to "can you fix it"Aug 29 20:37
MinceRwe have that, don't we?Aug 29 20:37
cubexyzit seems obvious, smoke in lungs makes you cough :)Aug 29 20:38
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/aagbRr4.gifvAug 29 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Alright, let’s go!Aug 29 20:39
MinceRcoughing does not cause cancer, afaikAug 29 20:39
DaemonFC[m]I'll probably take my Galaxy S8+ to ubreakifix if the battery starts to wear out.Aug 29 20:39
DaemonFC[m]$60-70 to get another couple of years out of it vs $600 for a new phone is a no brainer.Aug 29 20:40
cubexyzok, carbon monoxide and tar are bad for lung cellsAug 29 20:40
DaemonFC[m]Plus, the longer I keep it, the less it would be worth in a mugging.Aug 29 20:40
cubexyzsimpleAug 29 20:40
MinceR> The lowest dose is about the same as the Federal Communications Commission\u2019s limit for public exposure from cell phones, which is 1.6 watts W/kg.Aug 29 20:40
MinceRunrealistically large dosesAug 29 20:40
cubexyztalk about the high energy density of the batteries thenAug 29 20:40
MinceRthey should see how long their phones will last on battery while continually transmitting at the FCC limit, if they can/are willing to even do thatAug 29 20:41
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cubexyzthere's more than one reason to not use cell phonesAug 29 20:41
schestowitzthe worst are the antennasAug 29 20:41
schestowitzThey mount these atop some buildingsAug 29 20:41
schestowitznear a gym I went to a few timesAug 29 20:41
MinceR(not to mention phones normally transmit in bursts anyway)Aug 29 20:41
schestowitzThose are very, very powerfulAug 29 20:41
cubexyzI think a microwave dish can cook you yes?Aug 29 20:41
cubexyzif you get close enoughAug 29 20:41
schestowitzthe radiation increase quadratically as you approach themAug 29 20:41
MinceRdepends on how it's poweredAug 29 20:41
schestowitz[20:41] <MinceR> (not to mention phones normally transmit in bursts anyway)Aug 29 20:42
schestowitzStream HD and see (as some do, for hours nonstop)Aug 29 20:42
MinceRsucks to be themAug 29 20:42
MinceRand like the article says, heart schwannomas are very rare in humansAug 29 20:42
MinceReven though cellular equipment and other microwave equipment is used often in large citiesAug 29 20:42
MinceRalso, why can't they link the alleged study?Aug 29 20:43
MinceRare these "journalists" allergic to citations?Aug 29 20:43
MinceRthe article on GBM is even less seriousAug 29 20:44
MinceR>the studies have yet to be peer-reviewedAug 29 20:45
MinceRis this the best they can do?Aug 29 20:45
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Some of the power saving options probably help out with the background activity. Aug 29 20:46
DaemonFC[m]If you restrict background app data, it can put the modem to sleep longer.Aug 29 20:46
MinceRso does not loading the phone with crapAug 29 20:46
MinceRlike the dumbFuckBook clientAug 29 20:46
MinceRand twatterAug 29 20:46
cubexyzcell phones are pretty much all proprietary software yes? yet another reason to avoid themAug 29 20:47
MinceRnot reallyAug 29 20:47
MinceRAOSP is free softwareAug 29 20:47
MinceRand a large part of Android is AOSPAug 29 20:47
XRevan86MinceR: And modem?Aug 29 20:48
XRevan86firmwareAug 29 20:48
MinceRbut they do have an uncomfortably large amount of proprietary softwareAug 29 20:48
MinceRXRevan86: that's nonfree indeedAug 29 20:48
MinceRbut it's also relatively smallAug 29 20:48
MinceRat least until the uefi folks reinvent modem firmwareAug 29 20:48
cubexyzfirmware is indeed a problemAug 29 20:50
cubexyzbtw Gates used DEC's basic-plus on PDP-11 as the template for the original microsoft basicAug 29 20:53
cubexyzjust learned about that recentlyAug 29 20:53
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kaniinischestowitz instance going down in a moment againAug 29 21:01
kaniinischestowitz moving postgresql to some newfangled "linode cloud volume"Aug 29 21:01
kaniinii literally made a 500GB volumeAug 29 21:02
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schestowitzkaniini: eta?Aug 29 21:11
kaniini~5 min probablyAug 29 21:11
kaniiniit's copying fastAug 29 21:11
schestowitzthank you ;-)Aug 29 21:11
schestowitzI'm trying to promote the platformAug 29 21:11
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kaniiniwell i have registrations closed on this instance right now anyway because i need to do these maintenance things.  was hoping to do it this weekend, but reality caught up sooner.Aug 29 21:13
kaniini297 files to goAug 29 21:14
kaniinischestowitz everything seems to be working fine now.  you can see how it is rigged now.Aug 29 21:23
schestowitznumber of active users still growing?Aug 29 21:25
schestowitzI saw the other day/week that there are almost 100 instances of plemoraAug 29 21:25
kaniiniyes, active users growing.  i'm going to reopen registrations after i move the instance from linode.  or maybe sooner if this holds.Aug 29 21:27
kaniinii just threw a 500gb "cloud volume" at /var/lib/postgresql and am presently hoping for the best ;)Aug 29 21:27
kaniiniwe have a view of 90% of the fediverse so disk is filling up quicklyAug 29 21:27
schestowitzwowAug 29 21:35
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schestowitzI won't even ask how that can scale for 100m+ usersAug 29 21:36
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DaemonFC[m]The quality of the average smartphone has gone down, a lot.Aug 29 21:39
schestowitzwife has an s2Aug 29 21:39
schestowitzlasts ok stillAug 29 21:39
schestowitzsince early 2012Aug 29 21:39
DaemonFC[m]You used to buy one and maybe carry it around for 4-5 years, and now you are paying on one and limping across the finish line with it by the time the contract ends.Aug 29 21:39
DaemonFC[m](Like 2 years.)Aug 29 21:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the newer ones are total crap.Aug 29 21:40
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180828/15443240532/indiana-appeals-court-says-forcing-someone-to-unlock-their-phone-violates-5th-amendment.shtmlAug 29 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indiana Appeals Court Says Forcing Someone To Unlock Their Phone Violates The 5th Amendment | TechdirtAug 29 21:40
DaemonFC[m]They're designed to fail on a 2 year cycle to keep you chained to your carrier.Aug 29 21:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Unfortunately, that ruling only affects Indiana and only with regards to the state government.Aug 29 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Also, there's the state Supreme Court, which I suspect the state will appeal to. Aug 29 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Then again, the Indiana Supreme Court has made some surprising rulings.Aug 29 21:43
DaemonFC[m]One case, several years ago, involved a no-knock raid by Indiana police wearing plain clothing and no badges. The homeowner thought it was a home invasion and shot one of them.Aug 29 21:43
DaemonFC[m]The Indiana Supreme Court overturned his conviction and ruled the homicide "justifiable" as he thought his family was under attack.Aug 29 21:44
DaemonFC[m]The police unions were not happy.Aug 29 21:44
DaemonFC[m]The state legislature eventually passed a law saying that castle doctrine applies when you have no reason to suspect that a person breaking into your house is a police officer. So the ruling was codified.Aug 29 21:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: No knock warrants put the police in _more_ danger because if a person is in the house and someone bashes the door in, that is where their mind can be expected to go.Aug 29 21:47
DaemonFC[m]They insist on using them though. In Illinois, the state has done its best to disarm everyone but the criminals.Aug 29 21:48
schestowitzdo you still carry?Aug 29 21:50
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kaniinihell yeah i carryAug 29 21:53
kaniiniin this world of nazisAug 29 21:53
kaniiniwhy wouldn't you carryAug 29 21:53
kaniinithey're carryingAug 29 21:53
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schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDwRew9-9FEAug 29 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-police vs german neonazis in Luxembourg - YouTubeAug 29 21:54
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ​Storj Labs forges open-source vendors and cloud services alliance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115030 [https://pleroma.site/objects/547c569e-57b6-4ab4-afe9-8f947e26880b]Aug 29 21:54
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Sometimes.Aug 29 21:59
DaemonFC[m]CTA officially prohibits carry, but since all Illinois licenses are conceal and carry, the only time they'd know is if you had to use it.Aug 29 21:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Rocket League, BlazeRush, Battle Chef Brigade http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115031 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a3a0743d-e996-472d-8e27-80427d489d47]Aug 29 21:59
DaemonFC[m]And, quite honestly, if it's a life and death situation, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. ;)Aug 29 22:00
schestowitzWhat an odd lifestyleAug 29 22:00
schestowitzwalking among so many armed peopleAug 29 22:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Benchmarks: #96Boards and #NVIDIA #Jetson TX2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115032 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da754ff1-d68d-4718-968c-f6e7796a2957]Aug 29 22:01
schestowitzand you can't even see who's armedAug 29 22:02
schestowitzso you behave nicely out of fear/Aug 29 22:02
kaniiniwell, the problem is that certain political leaders have lead some to believe that it is okay to be a white supremacist neofascist thug in publicAug 29 22:03
kaniiniand, since those people carry and may use it against you just for saying the wrong thing to themAug 29 22:03
kaniiniand, you don't necessarily have any idea who these people are at first glanceAug 29 22:03
kaniiniit makes sense to take actions to protect yourselfAug 29 22:03
kaniiniit really wasn't like this a few years agoAug 29 22:03
schestowitzyeah, it was bad, but it's getting worse it seemsAug 29 22:05
schestowitzbecause of some "very fine leaders"Aug 29 22:05
kaniinibeing that i have a background that those thugs would find distasteful, i do feel that protection is necessary in this climateAug 29 22:05
kaniinii abhor violence, but at the same time, i have to look out for my own safety tooAug 29 22:06
kaniiniand, i'd rather it be them than meAug 29 22:06
schestowitzhttps://fair.org/home/john-mccain-human-rights-ukrainian-nazi-photo-washington-post/Aug 29 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | WaPo Uses Photo of McCain with Nazi to Praise His 'Human Rights' WorkAug 29 22:06
schestowitzhours oldAug 29 22:06
kaniinishould it come down to something like thatAug 29 22:07
DaemonFC[m]The 80s repeat themselves.Aug 29 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Big city violent crime.Aug 29 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Supply Side EconomicsAug 29 22:07
kaniinii'm not worried about the criminals, gangs like MS-13 keep to themselves regarding civiliansAug 29 22:08
schestowitzwell, it's clean who the police would side withAug 29 22:08
kaniinii'm worried about the people who are worried about the criminals because they are really worried about white supremacyAug 29 22:08
schestowitzin case of civil unrestAug 29 22:08
schestowitznot sure about the armyAug 29 22:08
DaemonFC[m]The Republicans and Democrats are always yammering on about how small business is the engine of our economy, then they pass more laws that make it impossible to be a small business.Aug 29 22:08
schestowitzbut the GOP controls politics and more so the Army, tooAug 29 22:08
DaemonFC[m]We're about to see a collapse of a lot of small banks again.Aug 29 22:09
kaniinianyway, 2020s will probably be fine againAug 29 22:09
schestowitzNeverTrump became PleaseTrump, promote meAug 29 22:09
DaemonFC[m]They loaned out money at 30%+ interest on credit cards to people without any way of paying it back.Aug 29 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Charge offs are skyrocketing for small banks.Aug 29 22:09
kaniini2018 elections are going to tell us all we need to knowAug 29 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Then they'll get bought out in bankruptcy by large ones.Aug 29 22:09
kaniiniand if the democrats take over and they do not take action to get trump under controlAug 29 22:09
schestowitzare Greens on ballots in Illinois?Aug 29 22:10
kaniinithen 2020 elections are going to be a disasterAug 29 22:10
kaniinii'm quite certain of thatAug 29 22:10
DaemonFC[m]Yes, but only a few are elected.Aug 29 22:10
schestowitz(I'm guessing so, for Congress/Senate where they have a chance of getting seats in that state's ballots)Aug 29 22:10
DaemonFC[m]Some city council seats, but nothing statewide.Aug 29 22:10
schestowitzDNC hasn't reorganisedAug 29 22:10
schestowitzI guess big businesses are happy with the status quo anywayAug 29 22:11
schestowitzderegulation, tax breaks etc.Aug 29 22:11
DaemonFC[m]The DNC did surprise me the other day.Aug 29 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Superdelegates will no longer be allowed to vote for Presidential candidate on the first ballot.Aug 29 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Thee's plenty of other nasty tricks, but perhaps they won't Hillary Clinton us next time.Aug 29 22:12
DaemonFC[m]I think they realized that they were as responsible as anything for Donald Trump.Aug 29 22:12
DaemonFC[m]I don't even think they wanted her. The message was that she was inevitable and when she got in you didn't want to be on her bad side.Aug 29 22:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So this getting out of the way is good optics ("More democracy in the Democratic Party!"), but it also lets the superdelegates avoid the headache of either potentially backing a primary loser and pissing off the eventual president, or being pressured to support a candidate who goes on to lose because the voting public feels cheated.Aug 29 22:19
DaemonFC[m]2018 is important for many reasons. The Democrats have a better than usual shot at flipping a bunch of governor's seats.Aug 29 22:20
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/2017/03/another-life-errr-saved/Aug 29 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another life errr saved? | Engrish.comAug 29 22:21
schestowitzwould be nice is Lessig became us presAug 29 22:21
DaemonFC[m]That sets up the House elections to be more favorable for Democrats for 10 years after the next census.Aug 29 22:21
MinceRschestowitz: indeedAug 29 22:21
DaemonFC[m]Also, if they can flip the House and/or Senate, Trump won't be doing a hell of a lot for a while, legitlatively. Aug 29 22:21
MinceRbut the usians are too stupid to elect himAug 29 22:21
DaemonFC[m]*legislatively Aug 29 22:22
MinceRand the democratic party is too corrupt to nominate himAug 29 22:22
DaemonFC[m]So, it sets the stage and tone for what comes next. Aug 29 22:22
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: unless he uses the military to take over :>Aug 29 22:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: THe military doesn't particularly like him, from what I can gather.Aug 29 22:22
schestowitzMinceR: imagine Faux Noise calling him "Muslim" and "Communist"Aug 29 22:23
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: If he wanted the military to help him overthrow the constitution, it would help to have top ranking generals who actually like him, and other things...Aug 29 22:23
schestowitzmaybe mock his daughter's condition. tooAug 29 22:23
MinceR:>Aug 29 22:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I suspect that the Era of Trump is not going to last much longer.Aug 29 22:24
kaniiniDaemonFC[m] i agree, russian influence operations had very little to do with it.  none of the people i know were talking about that crap, but instead about how they felt cheated by the DNC.  and a lot of people stayed home.Aug 29 22:25
DaemonFC[m]This election will largely be a stunning defeat for his agenda. Aug 29 22:25
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: but what about the New Dark Age?Aug 29 22:25
MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/2017/03/did-i-mention-burgers/Aug 29 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Did I mention burgers? | Engrish.comAug 29 22:33
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MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/2017/04/me-ferry-you-long-time/Aug 29 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Me ferry you long time… | Engrish.comAug 29 23:23
cubexyzanyone could have written a BASIC interpreter in assembly language... but it is a lot of work to do it from scratchAug 29 23:33
MinceRand it's pointlessAug 29 23:36
MinceRsince it will still be an implementation of BASICAug 29 23:36
cubexyzan improvement over Fortran II on which it was basedAug 29 23:37
MinceRwas fortran ii really that primitive?Aug 29 23:39
cubexyzit was, yesAug 29 23:39
MinceRthe fortran i knew was more sophisticated than basicAug 29 23:39
cubexyzdepends on which versionAug 29 23:39
cubexyzyou have to remember the early BASIC interpreters had to fit into 8k memory space, and sometimes even 4KAug 29 23:40
cubexyzIBM 1130 had 64K of memory spaceAug 29 23:40
cubexyzand most of the 1130's had less than thatAug 29 23:41
cubexyzso Fortran II was like... line numbers, no labels, all the stuff you don't like about early BASICAug 29 23:43
MinceRthey should have implemented lispAug 29 23:44
cubexyzbut I don't think Fortran II had the chaining of statements together by colonAug 29 23:44
cubexyzand also I think some Fortrans did not entirely produce machine language executablesAug 29 23:45
cubexyzsome of it was interpretedAug 29 23:46
cubexyzFortran 90 would be the quasi-modern FortranAug 29 23:47
cubexyzthere was a PDP-6 Lisp... so I don't know... maybe it would have been possible to make a lisp for early home computersAug 29 23:54
MinceRsome lisps were pretty damn simpleAug 29 23:59
MinceRthen again, maybe garbage collection would be too much for those boxenAug 29 23:59
cubexyzearly Unix fortran was horribleAug 30 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Most public schools in the US have been cut to the bone.Aug 30 00:01
DaemonFC[m]If there even is a programming class, it was "sponsored" by Microsoft, and you're going to learn a lot about .Net and Windows.Aug 30 00:01
cubexyzI shudder to think Aug 30 00:02
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MinceRhttp://www.engrish.com/2017/05/theres-only-two-i-think-i-can-takem/Aug 30 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There’s only two–I think I can take’m. | Engrish.comAug 30 00:02
cubexyzwe learned 6502 and 6809 assembly and something called SIMON's BASIC which I can barely rememberAug 30 00:02
DaemonFC[m]I was in public school so long ago that we learned Apple's BASIC. :PAug 30 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Not because I'm that old, but partially because the early to mid 90s in rural Indiana was a weird time.Aug 30 00:03
DaemonFC[m]They didn't think much about computers being important later on, even while the country was entering the tech boom.Aug 30 00:03
cubexyznot the original Apple ROM BASIC at leastAug 30 00:03
cubexyzso not _too_ badAug 30 00:04
DaemonFC[m]They were Apple II systems. Aug 30 00:04
DaemonFC[m]The hardware held up pretty well, there was a ton of educational software for it, and it had a few other advantages.Aug 30 00:05
DaemonFC[m]But the computer itself was horribly obsolete by the time I went anywhere near it. I had better stuff at home. Aug 30 00:05
cubexyzby 1994 I started to see some Linux at the University levelAug 30 00:09
DaemonFC[m]It didn't take too long for GNU/Linux distributions to catch on there or in business.Aug 30 00:10
cubexyzbefore that... SunOS... Xenix, Venix, etcAug 30 00:10
DaemonFC[m]For a while, it was pitched as an OS for your home PC at big box stores, but then it ended up causing problems for them and they stopped selling it.Aug 30 00:10
DaemonFC[m]People would get it home and end up formatting over Windows and finding out that there'd be some hardware that didn't work at all, and usually something important. Aug 30 00:11
DaemonFC[m]That was a long time ago, but by the time it usually just worked, the damage was done.Aug 30 00:12
cubexyzinteresting that wasn't really a problem in the beginningAug 30 00:12
DaemonFC[m]People were all like, "Oh, I tried installing Linux and it didn't work out well.".Aug 30 00:12
cubexyzthat windows era stuff came laterAug 30 00:12
DaemonFC[m]It was....uncommon to be able to just buy a PC somewhere like Walmart and use a non-Windows OS on it.Aug 30 00:13
DaemonFC[m]And while there's certainly still some computers like that, the problem is less common.Aug 30 00:13
DaemonFC[m]If you were going to use something else, you pretty much had to build the PC yourself and plan out exactly what was going to go in it based on a hardware compatibility list.Aug 30 00:13
cubexyzAmigaDOS? Xenix? CP/M? BeOS? Minix? there were othersAug 30 00:13
cubexyzI'm not sure why everyone got into lock-step with Microsoft stuffAug 30 00:14
DaemonFC[m]BeOS PE was included with a few computers. It had something similar to loadlin.Aug 30 00:14
DaemonFC[m]You'd double click on BeOS from your Windows desktop and the system would exit Windows and switch over to BeOS.Aug 30 00:15
cubexyzDEC and HP and Xerox were the real inventorsAug 30 00:15
cubexyzalmost everything was descended from themAug 30 00:15
DaemonFC[m]It wasn't terribly popular because Microsoft threatened OEMs who were doing it, and they just dropped it.Aug 30 00:15
DaemonFC[m]For a while, Apple was investigating the possibility of buying Be, but the CEO apparently made them angry when he said he had Apple "by the balls".Aug 30 00:16
cubexyza foolish thing to sayAug 30 00:16
cubexyzand of course Kildall botched things up with IBMAug 30 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Well, the Classic Mac OS was terrible. It wasn't getting better with age. Aug 30 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Apple kept trying to replace it with something more modern and coming up short.Aug 30 00:18
DaemonFC[m]He probably thought that selling them BeOS as the new Mac OS was a sure thing.Aug 30 00:19
cubexyzthere was a Xenix thing too if I remember rightAug 30 00:19
cubexyzApple Lisa it wasAug 30 00:19
cubexyzHitachi shipped some BeOS computers Aug 30 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Apple had A/IX at one point.Aug 30 00:20
DaemonFC[m]The GUI was similar to Mac OS. They ended up abandoning it.Aug 30 00:21
cubexyzthis is worth remembering:Aug 30 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Err, A/UXAug 30 00:21
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Flora_PriusAug 30 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hitachi Flora Prius - WikipediaAug 30 00:21
cubexyznote the time periodAug 30 00:22
cubexyznot that I ever thought BeOS was the way to go...Aug 30 00:23
cubexyzI tried it... it was OKAug 30 00:23
cubexyznot FOSSAug 30 00:23
cubexyzMicrosoft was the major cause of the schism in computingAug 30 00:24
DaemonFC[m]Looks like only one Mac emulator runs A/UX and it's abandoned.Aug 30 00:25
cubexyzbefore you actually got all the source code for your computer... that was the way things were done up to the mid-1970sAug 30 00:25
DaemonFC[m]The guy said "by contractual obligation".Aug 30 00:25
DaemonFC[m]My guess is he got a job at Apple and they made him stop developing this for some reason.Aug 30 00:25
DaemonFC[m]Not sure why that would be. A/UX is very old (Last release was 1995.). Aug 30 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Someone still maintains a branch of Mozilla Seamonkey for PowerPC Macs and Classic Mac OS.Aug 30 00:27
DaemonFC[m]I hear that it doesn't run that well.Aug 30 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Given how Apple has treated their users in the past, I wouldn't want to invest any of my money in their products.Aug 30 00:28
cubexyzwhen you bought an IBM 1130, or a DEC PDP-11 you got the source code for just about everythingAug 30 00:29
DaemonFC[m]You can literally spend $3-5,000 on a laptop today and then have them come out tomorrow and announce that they're transitioning to a new CPU architecture, but don't worry because you'll get some shitty compatibility solution for a few years. (And then no more software at all, ever again.)Aug 30 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Also, Mac users apparently have no idea how depreciation works. Aug 30 00:30
DaemonFC[m]When your old computer that is no longer supported by any new software is up for resale, you demand $1,000 for it, because of course you do.Aug 30 00:31
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DaemonFC[m]Everyone else in the world just accepts, "Hey, I've put some wear and tear on this thing, it's unsupported, I'll get what I get out of it.". Aug 30 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Not Apple customers!Aug 30 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Even Best Buy...Aug 30 00:34
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DaemonFC[m]"This $3,500 Macbook Pro has been sitting here, on all day, with kids banging on it, and 500 people getting their greasy little mitts all over it...... So, it's open box excellent condition. $3,250!"Aug 30 00:35
cubexyzthey _should_ have taught Unix in high schoolAug 30 00:35
DaemonFC[m]And it's last year's model, to boot!Aug 30 00:36
DaemonFC[m]cubexyz: Yeah, well..... It is what it is.Aug 30 00:36
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft attempted to corrupt the process of learning how an operating system works in college with the "Windows Research Kernel".Aug 30 00:37
DaemonFC[m]It was a Windows 2003 kernel with the file system and driver code missing.Aug 30 00:37
DaemonFC[m]And you could see it by signing a NDA.Aug 30 00:37
cubexyzdoesn't sound very appealingAug 30 00:38
cubexyzin 1981 I saw a very nice machine... it was the CDC 110... 512x512 graphics, with CP/MAug 30 00:39
cubexyzutterly extinct now of courseAug 30 00:39
cubexyzyou can keep the white box PCs running for a long time so those I keptAug 30 00:41
cubexyzI even do maintainance on the UPSesAug 30 00:42
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DaemonFC[m]The hardware on the Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2 has held up well.Aug 30 17:05
DaemonFC[m]Two years in and the battery has only lost 1% of original capacity.Aug 30 17:06
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cubexyzTier One NetBSD support:Aug 30 18:29
cubexyzamd64, evbarm, evbmips, evbppc, hpcarm, i386, sparc64, xenAug 30 18:29
cubexyzif you still have a working alpha or even a vax or zaurus you still have Tier Two support with NetBSDAug 30 18:30
cubexyzeven Amiga has Tier Two supportAug 30 18:31
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: @tuxmachinesEdit profileThis toot won't be listed under any hashtag as it is unlisted. Only public toots can be searched by hashtag.Write your warning hereChallenges in Maintaining A Big Tent for Software Freedom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115049 #gnu... [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c026abf-9e99-4c03-b4b3-c48349786261]Aug 30 18:48
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XRevan86> Yandex Has Less Than 48 Hours to Tackle Piracy [sic] or Get BlockedAug 30 20:39
XRevan86They tackledAug 30 20:39
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MinceRdid they move to iceland or something?Aug 30 20:45
XRevan86Their business is mostly in Russia, so, you knowAug 30 20:46
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18042369Aug 30 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 30 20:58
schestowitzwant!Aug 30 21:03
MinceR:)Aug 30 21:04
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18020253Aug 30 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 30 21:13
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Going Deeper and More Distributed, Linux Introduces Two New Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/115066 [https://pleroma.site/objects/64b8161c-f8d5-4072-b013-44ccb1c0d2c3]Aug 30 21:21
MinceRhttps://78.media.tumblr.com/ef52ea90ad5e6cb4b76007bab01a34d0/tumblr_owujlbopl21rvya9ro1_1280.pngAug 30 21:21
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XRevan86MinceR: Apple qualityAug 30 21:23
MinceRshazam's brain? :>Aug 30 21:23
XRevan86MinceR: That tooAug 30 21:24
XRevan86They didn't buy Shazam for nothingAug 30 21:25
DaemonFC[m]https://news.softpedia.com/news/iphone-fan-hater-donald-trump-also-uses-an-ipad-he-calls-the-flat-one-522443.shtmlAug 30 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | iPhone Fan/Hater Donald Trump Also Uses an iPad He Calls “The Flat One”Aug 30 21:26
MinceRoh, the screenshotAug 30 21:26
MinceRalso, my home server is dying, apparentlyAug 30 21:27
XRevan86MinceR: In what respect?Aug 30 21:27
XRevan86drives? ram? the power block?Aug 30 21:27
XRevan86the system board?Aug 30 21:28
XRevan86everything at once? :)Aug 30 21:28
MinceReverythingAug 30 21:28
MinceRsomething's fucked about USBAug 30 21:28
MinceRthe NIC zones out for minutesAug 30 21:28
MinceRnow i'm getting I/O errorsAug 30 21:28
XRevan86that sounds like the system board's departmentAug 30 21:28
MinceRthere isn't much more to that box than the system boardAug 30 21:28
MinceRit's a barebones pcAug 30 21:28
XRevan86What's NIC?Aug 30 21:29
MinceRnetwork interface cardAug 30 21:29
XRevan86ahAug 30 21:29
MinceRthough it isn't really a card, it's integratedAug 30 21:29
XRevan86MinceR: ohAug 30 21:30
cubexyzin the olden days you could just change the pci cardAug 30 21:30
XRevan86Now you can add an additional pci card %)Aug 30 21:31
XRevan86new days are not like the old days %)Aug 30 21:31
MinceRwon't fit in the caseAug 30 21:31
cubexyzthe olden days are still in my lab :)Aug 30 21:31
XRevan86MinceR: Did you rule out software problems?Aug 30 21:31
schestowitzkaniini_: maintenance?Aug 30 21:32
MinceRi guess soAug 30 21:32
MinceRi don't see how all this would be softwareAug 30 21:32
MinceRespecially when this same distro version didn't do any of this shit on other boxenAug 30 21:32
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kaniini_schestowitz i had to restart the application server to block an instance which was harassing peopleAug 30 21:32
kaniini_(who we block or not is compiled into the application)Aug 30 21:32
XRevan86MinceR: Well, it's the easiest thing to check, so you knowAug 30 21:33
schestowitzkaniini_: I get youAug 30 21:34
schestowitzin what way harassing?Aug 30 21:34
kaniini_there's a new instance of mastodon run by people who got banned from twitter for harassmentAug 30 21:35
kaniini_they are basically raiding on users in the fediverse they dislikeAug 30 21:35
kaniini_they feel empowered by the wil wheaton incidentAug 30 21:35
schestowitzhe was my colleagueAug 30 21:35
schestowitzi heard he quit twitterAug 30 21:36
schestowitzwe worked for netscape at one pointAug 30 21:36
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schestowitzBTW: gab was gently kicked out by MicrosoftAug 30 21:37
schestowitzimagine thatAug 30 21:37
kaniini_surprisedAug 30 21:37
schestowitzCompared to GAB even Microsoft seems "ethical"Aug 30 21:37
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kaniini_you can read about who we block and why at https://info.pleroma.site/federation.html, it is an extremely boring list of course, but :pAug 30 21:46
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MinceRhttps://78.media.tumblr.com/cf5ff1e64c8d2df56704a28c9bb1a2f3/tumblr_p0t1qzE6A41rvya9ro1_1280.pngAug 30 21:49
XRevan86MinceR: I didn't see that patternAug 30 21:50
XRevan86is it because I didn't see the new trilogy?Aug 30 21:50
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 30 21:50
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DaemonFC[m]AOL basically ruined what was left of Netscape. Aug 31 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Netscape 4 was in bad shape though, and Mozilla Suite suffered from bloat that made it unpleasant to run on many computers.Aug 31 00:42
cubexyzseamonkey is the new netscapeAug 31 00:50
cubexyzfor some reason debian called it iceape, but it seems to have reverted back to seamonkeyAug 31 00:51
XRevan86cubexyz: Yes, Debian no longer does the iceweasel thingAug 31 00:52
cubexyzthere was also icecatAug 31 00:52
cubexyzI'm not sure what's up with all the different namesAug 31 00:52
XRevan86cubexyz: Avoidance of Mozilla trademarks™Aug 31 00:52
XRevan86because of the patchesAug 31 00:53
XRevan86but they've resolved that somehowAug 31 00:53
cubexyzI guess iceape is like seamonkey? I'm not sureAug 31 00:54
cubexyzah, now I see... iceape didn't have proprietary plug-ins that seamonkey hadAug 31 00:58
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cubexyzicecat was a GNU thingAug 31 00:58
cubexyzprobably more FOSSy :)Aug 31 00:59
cubexyzI build a GNU icecat 2 quite a while agoAug 31 01:00
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cubexyzs/build/built/Aug 31 01:00
cubexyzthe last gtk1 versionAug 31 01:00
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MinceRhttps://78.media.tumblr.com/dfbda7647889027ad404b553a01f04eb/tumblr_inline_p0tbbsJKo21rp2l9y_1280.pngAug 31 07:35
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/lNWZim1.jpgAug 31 07:49
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oiaohmhttps://vitux.com/how-to-open-and-edit-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu-desktop-as-an-administrator/  This should make some people happier.Aug 31 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vitux.com | How to Open and Edit Files and Folders in Ubuntu Desktop as an AdministratorAug 31 08:11
oiaohmNot having to drop to console to modify system files.Aug 31 08:11
oiaohmStill has a bug.Aug 31 08:12
oiaohmhttps://theblog.adobe.com/adobe-video-and-audio-apps-upcoming-changes-to-os-support/  Fun for those still using adobe products.Aug 31 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theblog.adobe.com | Adobe Video and Audio Apps: Upcoming Changes to OS Support | Adobe BlogAug 31 08:16
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XRevan86> Running our apps on current versions of the Mac and Windows operating systems helps provide an optimal experience with our tools.Aug 31 12:48
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XRevan86"optimal experience" is an ultimate cliché now.Aug 31 12:49
oiaohmXRevan86: is that from the adobe one when it we will not run on windows prior to windows 10 heck not even all versions of windows 10.Aug 31 12:51
XRevan86oiaohm: yesAug 31 12:52
XRevan86oiaohm: It's all about optimal experience, y'knowAug 31 12:52
oiaohmOptimial income more like it.Aug 31 12:52
oiaohmXRevan86: optimal experience for who.Aug 31 12:53
XRevan86- Adobe, why can't I run your junk on an OS that doesn't lag intensely on my PC?Aug 31 12:53
XRevan86- We care about optimal experience, that's why.Aug 31 12:53
oiaohmAlso our tools as in are those the adobe application development tools.   So not having to run quality control on as many OS .Aug 31 12:54
oiaohmHave to wonder how bad is krita eating into adobe income.Aug 31 12:54
schestowitz[12:53] <oiaohm> XRevan86: optimal experience for who.Aug 31 13:02
schestowitzthe seller's imageAug 31 13:02
schestowitzif you don't enjoy it, "you're doin' it WRONG!"Aug 31 13:02
oiaohmschestowitz: the best form of lie is a lie of omission.Aug 31 13:09
oiaohmschestowitz: that way if the lie is caught its not 100 percent lie.   Again about protecting their image.Aug 31 13:10
oiaohmschestowitz: to me it apears to be a pure lie of omission that everything written is from their point of view instead of end user.Aug 31 13:10
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schestowitzoiaohm: one can argue that a lie by omission if not a lieAug 31 14:09
schestowitzbut an omissiionAug 31 14:10
schestowitztherein lies the power of the tactic, which media uses a lotAug 31 14:10
schestowitzI mean oversight, not omissionAug 31 14:10
schestowitzmy keybroad focus got stolen by the browser, so train of thought derailed thereAug 31 14:11
MinceRthe optimal experience of suffering, being spied on and being oppressedAug 31 14:26
MinceRapparently there are lots of people who desire thatAug 31 14:27
schestowitzlike drm in 'channels'Aug 31 14:47
schestowitza la IntelAug 31 14:47
schestowitzWindows Vista support that s/w-sideAug 31 14:47
schestowitznot just firmware and driversAug 31 14:47
schestowitz"best experience"Aug 31 14:47
schestowitz"optimal"Aug 31 14:47
schestowitzRemember "Vista-approved" PC monitors?Aug 31 14:48
MinceRmacos supports drm in the executable format :>Aug 31 14:48
schestowitzit has for a long timeAug 31 14:48
schestowitzit's not even unix anymoreAug 31 14:48
MinceRit never wasAug 31 14:48
schestowitzit's just used for engineering patchworkAug 31 14:48
schestowitzbecause Apple can't handle such thingsAug 31 14:48
schestowitzjust "artsy" work on icons and commercialsAug 31 14:48
MinceR"engineering" is a strong word for what happens at appleAug 31 14:48
schestowitzcalling lousy, deficient "UX" simpleAug 31 14:49
schestowitzGNOME crippled its own tooAug 31 14:49
schestowitzmaking it worse over timerAug 31 14:49
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MinceRunsurprising, considering that gnome copies macosAug 31 14:49
schestowitzin the name of simplicity of courseAug 31 14:49
schestowitzeven apple's filesystems are ripped offAug 31 14:49
schestowitzthe good ones anywayAug 31 14:49
XRevan86Apparently their file system is case insensitive by defaultAug 31 14:51
XRevan86Which is pretty messed up for a UNIX-like OS.Aug 31 14:51
MinceRgood thing it's not a unix-like os, then :>Aug 31 14:51
XRevan86The certified UNIX™Aug 31 14:52
oiaohmXRevan86: not really some of the early Unix were case insensitve file systems.Aug 31 14:52
MinceRcertification of being willing to pay enough for the certificationAug 31 14:53
oiaohmXRevan86: Ok having all lower case files converted to upper case really suxed.Aug 31 14:53
XRevan86oiaohm: Did they try to imitate CP/M?Aug 31 14:53
MinceRbenefiting The Closed GroupAug 31 14:53
oiaohmXRevan86: you need compatibility with the other operating systems at the time.Aug 31 14:57
MinceRhe does?Aug 31 14:58
XRevan86I do?Aug 31 14:58
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oiaohmXRevan86: multics the that unix name is a joke of was the first with case sensitive.   But everything else around it was case insenstive mostly horrible case insenstive where everything was mapped to upper case..Aug 31 14:59
oiaohmXRevan86: The name Unix (originally Unics) is itself a pun on Multics. <<< the fun of history.Aug 31 15:00
oiaohmXRevan86: think you are selling a Unix /Multics to a company with a stack of case insensive file systems and the people ask how to I transfer my data in.Aug 31 15:01
MinceR"first, you unfuck your file names"Aug 31 15:02
MinceRunix wasn't originally made to be sold, was it?Aug 31 15:02
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XRevan86I think oiaohm means a commercial UNIX-like OS.Aug 31 15:03
XRevan86which were in many numbers back in the dayAug 31 15:03
XRevan86ze xenix typeAug 31 15:03
oiaohmXRevan86: Not quite.Aug 31 15:04
MinceRxenix was a lot laterAug 31 15:04
oiaohmXRevan86: MinceR is part right.    Unix and Multics were both made at first so you could sell your mainframes.Aug 31 15:04
MinceRAT&T had mainframes to sell?Aug 31 15:05
oiaohmSo the OS it self is not sold but the hardware was.Aug 31 15:05
oiaohmYep.Aug 31 15:05
oiaohmMinceR: we forget things like the AT&T 3B2Aug 31 15:06
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Computer_SystemsAug 31 15:07
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MinceR3B-s came pretty late in unix historyAug 31 15:07
oiaohmMinceR: the 3B20 can from bell labs when AT&T got into unix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3B_series_computers#General-purpose_computers  Aug 31 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 3B series computers - WikipediaAug 31 15:11
oiaohmMinceR: AT&T was not that early in Unix history really.Aug 31 15:12
MinceRoh, i guess i meant bell, not at&tAug 31 15:12
oiaohmMinceR: bell was also in the business of designing cpus and mainframes from the ground up.Aug 31 15:15
MinceRi thought they weren't allowed to sell such things, only telecommunication servicesAug 31 15:15
oiaohmLot of early Unix does not have price because the OS was only there to sell the hardware.Aug 31 15:15
oiaohmThis results in early unix from different makers having strange features for compadiblity.Aug 31 15:16
oiaohmMinceR: there is a slight difference between designing and making.   You design the IP and give someone else the right to make it and you are not selling such things are you.Aug 31 15:19
MinceRunless you get paid for itAug 31 15:19
oiaohmPaper description how to make something does not count as making it.   They were using a legal loophole.Aug 31 15:20
oiaohmBit like the problem with the people who hacked the USA voting machines looking like they cannot be punished because the wording in the law required the crime to be commited by internet connection.Aug 31 15:20
oiaohmMinceR: the law is a ass in many ways.Aug 31 15:21
MinceRof course -- it was made by humansAug 31 15:21
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: If you let the world bother you with details like how something got where it is, just move to Illinois.Aug 31 18:40
DaemonFC[m]State worker with college degree asks how to spell Illinois.Aug 31 18:40
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The US version of the show Shameless takes place in Chicago.Aug 31 18:45
DaemonFC[m]I haven't watched the British version although I'm sure the American one is better. I wouldn't normally say that except that ours depicts a white trash family in Chicago, so......Aug 31 18:45
DaemonFC[m]What's going to beat that?Aug 31 18:45
DaemonFC[m]It's actually a pretty realistic depiction of poverty too. Not something that you see in a lot of TV shows.Aug 31 18:46
DaemonFC[m]Creative control of TV shows is usually handed over to the Hollywood Elite, who imagine poverty as being something much more comfortable than it actually is. Aug 31 18:46
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, the "Democrats" say they want to help the poor and then, in fact, make their situation even more dire than it was before.Aug 31 18:48
DaemonFC[m]They still don't get any help, but the Democrats tax the living fuck out of them.Aug 31 18:48
DaemonFC[m]The tax hikes are a tool to drive the poor out of Chicago.Aug 31 18:48
DaemonFC[m]When they can't afford to live here anymore, it will have been well worth the "nuisance" to the ruling class.Aug 31 18:48
DaemonFC[m]Oh sure, the ruling class will allow just enough of them to stay to continue serving them, by enacting $15 minimum wage and providing enough affordable housing for just that many to stay. Aug 31 18:49
DaemonFC[m]But it's quite obvious what they are doing.Aug 31 18:50
DaemonFC[m]We're turning into San Francisco or New York City.Aug 31 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, the cost of living will be so high that the $15 minimum wage won't provide for much in the way of living. It'll be the equivalent of making $10 an hour in Indiana or Wisconsin.Aug 31 18:51
DaemonFC[m]The Democrats have gotten San Francisco so messed up that you pay $3,000 to live in a single room with three other people, and if you go out for a bagel and coffee, that'll be $18.Aug 31 18:52
DaemonFC[m]We're not there yet, but it's not for lack of trying. :)Aug 31 18:52
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MinceR31 194024 <+DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: If you let the world bother you with details like how something got where it is, just move to Illinois.Aug 31 19:51
MinceRno thanksAug 31 19:51
MinceReven before Agent Orange got into power, the usa was not an attractive place for me to live inAug 31 19:51
schestowitzeven mexico starts to sound more attractiveAug 31 20:07
MinceRyeahAug 31 20:09
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072339Aug 31 20:48
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072332Aug 31 21:51
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XRevan86MinceR: So evilAug 31 21:55
schestowitzthe developer profile looks very russianAug 31 21:55
schestowitzin i am developer twitter parody accountAug 31 21:55
MinceR:)Aug 31 21:56
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MinceRwhat's russian about it?Aug 31 21:58
schestowitzjust seems to me like itAug 31 21:59
XRevan86I don't see itAug 31 22:00
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Au0aqkj.jpgAug 31 22:23
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072310Aug 31 22:49
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1807236Aug 31 23:12
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072171Sep 01 00:16
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cubexyzXenix was a lot later than what?Sep 01 01:08
cubexyza pity I didn't get Bell Labs Unix insteadSep 01 01:09
cubexyzmy experiments with Unix v5 didn't even start until 2011Sep 01 01:10
cubexyzstarted with Venix in 1986... and Xenix around ummm... probably 1988 or soSep 01 01:11
cubexyzdid you know the first laptop with a hard drive wasn't until 1987?Sep 01 01:14
cubexyzthe first microcomputer Unix was on Onyx 8002... around 1981Sep 01 01:15
cubexyzand all that stuff... Xenix... Venix... and the Onyx... all of that was derived from Bell Labs Unix v7Sep 01 01:16
cubexyzalmost everything was actually... minix, linux, etcSep 01 01:19
cubexyznot saying AT&T or Bell Labs were really "the good guys" hereSep 01 01:21
cubexyzthey were and they weren'tSep 01 01:21
cubexyzv5? v6? here, have the mag tape... off you goSep 01 01:23
cubexyzafter that... a big morassSep 01 01:23
cubexyzbe thankful for gccSep 01 01:28
cubexyzI had to spent $200 minimum for my first C compilerSep 01 01:29
*XRevan86 is thankful for gccSep 01 01:42
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schestowitz[23:12] <MinceR> https://ircz.de/p/1807236Sep 01 04:32
schestowitzback in the yummy thenSep 01 04:32
schestowitztummy I meanSep 01 04:32
tefxhey gusy no one here will no me but an old friend of mine used to frquent here known as sebsebseb i was wonderign if anyoen has seen or heard form him in a while and if anyone is still in contact with hyimSep 01 04:33
schestowitzhiSep 01 04:33
schestowitzdid something happen?Sep 01 04:33
tefx@schestowitz, no i jsut lookignt o egt back in touch with himSep 01 04:34
tefxi had a rough few years and bene homelss 2ce so lost ocxntatc with alot of people tryign toi track them back down and catch up with old friendsSep 01 04:34
schestowitzhe was here some weeks ago, I thinkSep 01 04:34
tefxschestowitz, oh coolSep 01 04:34
tefxnice to know hes sitll activeSep 01 04:34
schestowitzwith mageiaSep 01 04:34
schestowitzrazielle_tzu speaks to him sometimesSep 01 04:35
tefxif you see him and im not idlinghere can you possibally let him no tefx from MegWorld IRC was lookign for him he shoudl rmeber me from thatSep 01 04:35
schestowitzokSep 01 04:36
tefxbut thank you for the info schestowitz its ncie to know hes still aroundSep 01 04:36
schestowitznpSep 01 04:43
schestowitz"Seb Services started sharing with you on diaspora*"Sep 01 04:43
schestowitzhours agoSep 01 04:44
schestowitznot sure if there's a connectionSep 01 04:44
tefxhahaSep 01 04:59
tefxthats a we bit wierd lolSep 01 04:59
tefxi found a potentialy email address for him on launchpad so blasted him an email thereSep 01 05:00
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schestowitzblasted is a strong wordSep 01 05:04
tefxhahaSep 01 05:06
tefxim a brit i use weird mannerismsSep 01 05:06
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tefxworst of all im from northern england we are weird beings lol and schestowitz i pmed you im sorry i forgot irc etiquette and forgot to ask before i did soSep 01 05:07
schestowitzit's okSep 01 05:08
schestowitzunless it's really something that cannot be said publiclySep 01 05:08
schestowitzseb is on joindiapora iircSep 01 05:08
*tefx take self into the sad corner *just lost 2 TB of data while converting ESXI Vm to KVM* Sep 01 05:12
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schestowitzthat's a LOTSep 01 05:24
tefxyeah most of it was game mods for server i ran i luckly have an off site duplicate of my database and configs so it not to much of a issue just gunna take me a month to recover all the mods and game i was hostign servers forSep 01 05:26
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/543343.jpgSep 01 12:20
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072115Sep 01 12:39
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18072032Sep 01 17:13
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071981Sep 01 17:30
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071925Sep 01 18:41
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/QBKtXSH.jpgSep 01 19:04
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DaemonFC[m]I was looking at someone on Youtube who got an SGI Onyx workstation from 1993. Sep 01 19:20
DaemonFC[m]It was as big as a central air conditioning unit and he said that in that configuration it originally cost over $300,000.Sep 01 19:21
DaemonFC[m]I'd imagine that your average laptop from Walmart has more computing power than that now. What do people use them for? Facebook.Sep 01 19:22
DaemonFC[m]It's a shame that Microsoft convinced SGI to ditch IRIX and ship Windows NT. The usefulness of the computer probably cratered after that.Sep 01 19:23
DaemonFC[m]They pitched Windows NT as a "turnkey solution" when what it actually was was a big pile of crap that crashed all the time.Sep 01 19:24
DaemonFC[m]SGI used to have a very large following in the industry, but Windows NT made them "just another product" and probably played a large role in their eventual bankruptcy.Sep 01 19:26
DaemonFC[m]Their legacy is OpenGL and the semi-related "Vulkan" replacement for OpenGL.Sep 01 19:26
cubexyzrunning SGI Onyx computer would be a pain.... they used proprietary memory modulesSep 01 19:27
cubexyzodd that they used the name Onyx... I don't think SGI Onyx had anything to do with the original Onyx SystemsSep 01 19:28
cubexyzalso SGI Onyx didn't use standard PS/2 keyboards or miceSep 01 19:28
cubexyzCDC, Cray, SGI all failed... they need big subsidies and military contracts to surviveSep 01 19:30
cubexyzif you want to fart around with old computers, SGI Onyx would not be my first choiceSep 01 19:34
cubexyzI think SGI Onyx used the same connector... maybe you could build a converter for itSep 01 19:37
cubexyzlooking at the keyboard connector... it looks like a PS/2, hard to be sureSep 01 19:39
cubexyzthe monitor connector is a SGI special... this is for dedicated SGI aficionados onlySep 01 19:40
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071765Sep 01 19:45
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*XRevan86 popped in into Mumble, and boy my English needs work.Sep 01 19:51
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/1euqi3.pngSep 01 19:52
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*XRevan86 feels embarrassed.Sep 01 19:54
XRevan86MinceR: Not for him though :)Sep 01 19:54
MinceR:)Sep 01 19:55
schestowitzJohnson's metaphor  Sep 01 20:03
schestowitzgoat ridingSep 01 20:12
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18071637Sep 01 20:14
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MinceR[ASep 01 20:35
MinceRthanks, irssi!Sep 01 20:35
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1807051Sep 01 20:36
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MinceRhttps://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2515.htmlSep 01 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Animal translator!Sep 01 20:57
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/RoI2Ewl.gifvSep 01 21:36
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cubexyzmicrovax might be fun to play around withSep 01 21:48
cubexyzor vaxstation 4000 maybeSep 01 21:49
MinceRhttps://xkcd.com/1897/Sep 01 22:00
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MinceRhttps://xkcd.com/1899/Sep 01 22:37
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MinceRhttps://xkcd.com/1913/Sep 01 23:00
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MinceRhttps://xkcd.com/1920/Sep 01 23:20
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