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| cubexyz | oiaohm, how old of a kernel are you talking about? | Oct 28 01:00 |
| cubexyz | guess 2.76.27 is old then | Oct 28 01:00 |
| cubexyz | I have to keep reclassifying what "old" means | Oct 28 01:01 |
| cubexyz | uh, 2.6.27 rather | Oct 28 01:01 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18010619 | Oct 28 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 28 01:05 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/552075.jpg | Oct 28 01:27 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Quick Benchmark Of Mozilla Firefox With WebRender Beta vs. Chrome http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116884 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b8222874-978f-44a4-b017-86512176ce0a] | Oct 28 01:36 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linus Torvalds Shows His New Polite Side While Pointing Out Bad Kernel Code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116885 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ecba474e-847b-4013-a353-b48c56c12b2c] | Oct 28 01:46 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/552063.jpg | Oct 28 01:52 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux MD RAID 10 Improvements/Fixes Queued For Linux 4.20~5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116886 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ffdea914-560a-4a81-85b5-7ba7a06ee9bb] | Oct 28 01:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: The Humble Day and Battlefield 5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116887 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a3b1ce4d-6d66-4df7-87cc-da2d79afbc60] | Oct 28 01:28 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest News About Ubuntu Touch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116888 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f7e37747-aa38-408a-88be-7cdf4d431826] | Oct 28 01:30 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Wlp6Q9s.gifv | Oct 28 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Warm Kitty | Oct 28 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Thank you for the cat images. I've decided to go off my meds for an indefinite amount of time, so it's relaxing. | Oct 28 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I picked up some "special" items in Vegas and I don't want that mixing in my brain and having some kind of weird chain reaction. | Oct 28 01:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, a weird desire to listen to Pink Floyd might occur in the next week or so. | Oct 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: What's the law like about that in Hungaristan? | Oct 28 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like a speeding ticket in Illinois. | Oct 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You pay the $100 fine and it falls off your record in six months. | Oct 28 01:53 |
| MinceR | about what? | Oct 28 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pot | Oct 28 01:54 |
| MinceR | it's illegal | Oct 28 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Heh. Conservatives. Same everywhere. :( | Oct 28 01:54 |
| MinceR | and they'd probably try to put you on some sort of habit-breaking course | Oct 28 01:54 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 28 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sounds like Indiana. | Oct 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $5,000 fine, a year in jail, and court ordered substance abuse therapy. | Oct 28 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically some "or else" bullshit where they say "We'll only give you this much jail time instead of the full year if you don't go and say you have a problem and it's destroying your life, even if it isn't.". | Oct 28 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *if you go | Oct 28 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's a charade. | Oct 28 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They feel like it's the state's job to ruin lives and then pat you on the back and say you did it and you're a horrible person. | Oct 28 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't think there was much stigma of marijuana left, especially in California. | Oct 28 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then Elon Musk takes one hit on the Joe Rogan show and Tesla stock tanks and he's under investigation by the air force. | Oct 28 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If that doesn't prove what a difference there is between the people and The Party, I don't know what does. | Oct 28 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an illegitimate government when things with like 80% of the public in support can get you sent down river. | Oct 28 02:00 |
| MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/551911.mp4 | Oct 28 02:29 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: do you have free time Sunday? | Oct 28 04:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think 2.6.27 was a Mandriva kernel I had on my system ~10 years ago. | Oct 28 04:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's pretty old. | Oct 28 04:17 |
| kaniini | schestowitz yes, lets get everything moved | Oct 28 05:28 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: when are you free? | Oct 28 05:38 |
| kaniini | now | Oct 28 05:38 |
| schestowitz | aha | Oct 28 05:38 |
| schestowitz | so you got the two images, right? | Oct 28 05:38 |
| schestowitz | if we get them up and running I can probably do the rest | Oct 28 05:39 |
| kaniini | yeah i'm trying to figure that out right now | Oct 28 06:55 |
| amarsh04 | interesting, 4.19 release candidates started giving me grief with this pentium-D machine due to overheating, but in the last 24 hours thermal control seems to be working fine again | Oct 28 07:00 |
| amarsh04 | with latest Linus git head kernels that is | Oct 28 07:00 |
| schestowitz | pentium-D? what year is this? | Oct 28 07:06 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: no pressure, no rush. I the meantime I've uploaded no new files to the servers; this way I'd only need to scp the newer databases over and overwrite the older version - all the changed I've made this past week are in the DBs | Oct 28 07:08 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, last BIOS update for this motherboard was DMI: /8I945P Pro, BIOS F10 04/06/200 | Oct 28 07:09 |
| amarsh04 | getting a good run out of it | Oct 28 07:09 |
| amarsh04 | 2006 was the year on that date | Oct 28 07:10 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Samsung Open-Source Group Reportedly Shuts Down http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116891 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09c655c4-9e1c-4580-8fa6-80ddbf5ff16a] | Oct 28 11:06 | |
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| MinceR | http://deathbulge.com/comics/355 | Oct 28 14:30 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/iqC83b4.jpg | Oct 28 14:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is that what's called meta? | Oct 28 14:37 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 28 14:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 28 15:42 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A kind of bath salt? | Oct 28 15:48 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 28 15:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 28 16:09 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NFS Client Changes Bring Some Optimizations For Linux 4.20~5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116894 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b36c9c66-37d2-4f57-b124-3cfdc4115996] | Oct 28 16:22 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenMandriva Has Been Working On Their RISC-V & AArch64 Ports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116896 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ff95e92a-a293-4fea-b8a0-5dde6227346d] | Oct 28 16:34 | |
| MinceR | (audio) https://i.imgur.com/bJ0UhU7.mp4 | Oct 28 16:35 |
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| kaniini | so | Oct 28 19:00 |
| kaniini | ibm just bought red hat | Oct 28 19:00 |
| kaniini | that's fucked | Oct 28 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: O_O | Oct 28 19:04 |
| kaniini | XRevan86 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html | Oct 28 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | IBM to acquire Red Hat in deal valued at $34 billion | Oct 28 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | Ouch | Oct 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat is a big lobbyist for swpats | Oct 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | So I guess all those swpats of rht are no longer "friendly" -) | Oct 28 19:38 |
| schestowitz | IBM Fedora | Oct 28 19:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 28 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Ouch | Oct 28 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat staff to become IBMers | Oct 28 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Whitehurst to become a nobody with his "open org" | Oct 28 19:39 |
| schestowitz | could be worse... I very recerntly speculated they'd be bought coz the stocks had crashes | Oct 28 19:41 |
| schestowitz | But thought Oracle would step up, IBM is probably the least dangerous suit.... given that not many firms can afford the bill for RHT | Oct 28 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Like creepy Amazon | Oct 28 19:42 |
| schestowitz | also, 3 days also I asked several times online why red hat no longer speaks against swpats | Oct 28 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't suppose they ever will anymore... | Oct 28 19:43 |
| schestowitz | IBM is the most vocally FOR swpats | Oct 28 19:43 |
| schestowitz | anyway, g2g for a bit | Oct 28 19:44 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/InIAUiE.jpg | Oct 28 19:51 |
| MinceR | finally crApple and m$ are merging? :> | Oct 28 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Poe's Law probably | Oct 28 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Classic British humour | Oct 28 19:52 |
| cubexyz | Apple and Microsoft merging would be like DEFCON 1 | Oct 28 19:52 |
| MinceR | ibm is a crApple shill | Oct 28 19:53 |
| MinceR | card-carrying one, even | Oct 28 19:53 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18010523 | Oct 28 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 28 20:47 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18010413 | Oct 28 20:50 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18010411 | Oct 28 21:36 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: cubexyz razielle_tzu IBM to acquire Redhat Interesting | Oct 28 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | https://newsroom.ibm.com/2018-10-28-IBM-To-Acquire-Red-Hat-Completely-Changing-The-Cloud-Landscape-And-Becoming-Worlds-1-Hybrid-Cloud-Provider | Oct 28 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsroom.ibm.com | IBM To Acquire Red Hat, Completely Changing The Cloud Landscape And Becoming World's #1 Hybrid Cloud Provider - Oct 28, 2018 | Oct 28 21:48 | |
| MinceR | yeah, two pieces of shit stick together | Oct 28 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: they are going to ruin Redhat apparnatly | Oct 28 22:13 |
| MinceR | how? | Oct 28 22:23 |
| MinceR | how could ratcrap possibly get any worse than it already is? | Oct 28 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We just made an awful lot of money. | Oct 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I'm sick in bed today anyway while those antipsychotic pills clear out of my system. | Oct 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The deal just popped up in the news on my phone. | Oct 28 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC[m]: IBM and Redhat yes | Oct 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I'll celebrate later if I'm still alive. | Oct 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The withdrawals are knocking me on my ass. | Oct 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I picked a hell of a time to go off my meds. | Oct 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't ever let them start fucking with your head. They never stop. | Oct 28 22:32 |
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| cubexyz | not sure why IBM bought red hat | Oct 29 00:06 |
| cubexyz | they have AIX | Oct 29 00:06 |
| cubexyz | was everyone migrating away from AIX? | Oct 29 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I have never heard of anyone who uses IBM AIX | Oct 29 00:10 |
| MinceR | they wanted to throw the industry a curve ball | Oct 29 00:10 |
| MinceR | they innovated | Oct 29 00:10 |
| MinceR | instead of selling another department, they BOUGHT one! | Oct 29 00:10 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, banks I think | Oct 29 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: banks are a very special market | Oct 29 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | with deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep legacy | Oct 29 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | OS/2 is still a thing thanks to banks and the like | Oct 29 00:12 |
| cubexyz | I don't think IBM supports OS/2 now | Oct 29 00:13 |
| cubexyz | but there's ArcaOS | Oct 29 00:13 |
| cubexyz | and the ATM market switched to XP of all things | Oct 29 00:14 |
| cubexyz | and why a desktop OS for an ATM? :) | Oct 29 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I'll never understand these things | Oct 29 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Enterprise logic is hard to grasp | Oct 29 00:17 |
| MinceR | (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/554833.webm | Oct 29 00:18 |
| MinceR | you mean there's logic to it? | Oct 29 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When the word "logic" is prefixed with something like "business", it means that there's no logic in the classical sense | Oct 29 00:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 00:21 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/YOvLa3w.gifv | Oct 29 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Oct 29 00:24 | |
| MinceR | what about "mathematical logic" or "fuzzy logic"? | Oct 29 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | or predicate logic | Oct 29 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, customers wanted IBM hardware with Red Hat. Cheaper to buy them. | Oct 29 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: there are exceptions %) | Oct 29 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might still sell RHEL to other vendors, but they get the revenue for the software now. | Oct 29 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hardware margins are smaller anyway. | Oct 29 00:28 |
| MinceR | might still sell systemd support contracts to the enslaved distros and their users :> | Oct 29 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: There's still "Oracle Linux" too | Oct 29 00:29 |
| MinceR | you forgot "Unbreakable" :D | Oct 29 00:30 |
| MinceR | do you know why it's Unbreakable? | Oct 29 00:30 |
| MinceR | because it comes broken out of the box! | Oct 29 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: touché | Oct 29 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I thought you're gonna say it's unbreakable because one legally is forbidden to break it %) | Oct 29 00:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 00:31 |
| MinceR | that doesn't make it unbreakable | Oct 29 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Strictly speaking a broken thing can still be broken further | Oct 29 00:33 |
| MinceR | then strictly speaking it's incorrectly named | Oct 29 00:33 |
| MinceR | it should be "Oracle Broken Linux" | Oct 29 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | I propose "Oracle CentOSoid" | Oct 29 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | very scientific | Oct 29 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how Scientific Linux is doing | Oct 29 00:35 |
| MinceR | who cares? it's a rHELL fork, so it's automatically shit | Oct 29 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know, but I still have popcorn left | Oct 29 00:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 00:35 |
| MinceR | i need to install DragonflyBSD before i can enjoy the popcorn | Oct 29 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Sounds like a regression in terms of copyleft | Oct 29 00:37 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 29 00:37 |
| MinceR | but what's done is done | Oct 29 00:37 |
| MinceR | ratcrap found a way around strong copyleft (via dbugs) | Oct 29 00:37 |
| MinceR | patents are used by microsoft to blackmail android device makers | Oct 29 00:37 |
| MinceR | linux refused to go GPLv3 | Oct 29 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Um, how can Linux refuse to do something impossible? | Oct 29 00:38 |
| MinceR | and i'm not sure if the extra inconvenience for benign users is worth what little copyleft offers | Oct 29 00:38 |
| MinceR | it's not impossible | Oct 29 00:38 |
| MinceR | just difficult | Oct 29 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | A licence change is practically impossible for them | Oct 29 00:38 |
| MinceR | no, it is not | Oct 29 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | I think the word is unfeasible | Oct 29 00:39 |
| MinceR | they could start dual-licencing all new code, they could get permission for all devs they can reach to dual-licence their code | Oct 29 00:39 |
| MinceR | and then replace what remains | Oct 29 00:39 |
| MinceR | they throw old stuff out anyway | Oct 29 00:39 |
| MinceR | afaik the ext3 driver is gone, for example | Oct 29 00:39 |
| MinceR | and once everything is dual-licenced, they can drop GPLv2 | Oct 29 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The ext3 driver has been replaced by the ext4 driver when they were confident it can do ext3 just fine. | Oct 29 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | But it's still mostly the same code | Oct 29 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | ext4 is based on ext3, after all | Oct 29 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And what about hardware drivers, or deep down parts of the code | Oct 29 00:42 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 29 00:42 |
| MinceR | they probably maintain hw drivers for new hw | Oct 29 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | Besides, incremental changes are a derivative work, which is bound by the same licence | Oct 29 00:42 |
| MinceR | rewrites aren't, though | Oct 29 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I have some crap old hardware, and the drivers are still there | Oct 29 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I suspect that full rewrites are a thing rare enough | Oct 29 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | Especially without peeking at the old GPLv2 code | Oct 29 00:44 |
| MinceR | OS57 | Oct 29 00:49 |
| MinceR | disregard that | Oct 29 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | And avoiding linking through dbus can be a problem, but… the API available through dbus is limited, it doesn't nullify copyleft | Oct 29 00:51 |
| MinceR | limited, for now | Oct 29 00:51 |
| MinceR | and it does nullify copyleft, as it's not library linking | Oct 29 00:51 |
| MinceR | and you can see that they're trying hard to bring everything into dbugs | Oct 29 00:51 |
| MinceR | hostname, datetime, ... | Oct 29 00:51 |
| MinceR | probably the gui too | Oct 29 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Do you think that the date fetching API should dictate the licence? | Oct 29 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | If dbus becomes capable of more serious stuff, it'll become library linking itself %) | Oct 29 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | Like implementing a drawing library through dbus | Oct 29 00:55 |
| MinceR | if they want to use some copylefted library or program in their proprietary shit, they just make a fork or "contribute" a dbugs interface into it | Oct 29 00:55 |
| MinceR | and use that | Oct 29 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | cairo-dbus, skia-dbus | Oct 29 00:55 |
| MinceR | wayland-dbus | Oct 29 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: dbus can only give you a way of conveying information back and forth | Oct 29 00:56 |
| MinceR | it can function as a form of RPC | Oct 29 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | a graphical toolkit cannot be done like that | Oct 29 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | for one thing | Oct 29 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So can unix sockets | Oct 29 00:58 |
| MinceR | yeah, but they didn't seem to like UDS | Oct 29 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But can you get real interaction, context, out of it? | Oct 29 00:59 |
| MinceR | you can have callbacks, probably | Oct 29 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | For instance, if I have a class hierarchy (Qt widgets or something), can I convey it? | Oct 29 01:00 |
| MinceR | probably | Oct 29 01:00 |
| MinceR | hm, not sure about the licensing part though | Oct 29 01:00 |
| MinceR | but there are widget sets that use plain c | Oct 29 01:01 |
| XRevan86 | GTK+ widgets also have a class hierarchy | Oct 29 01:01 |
| MinceR | if nothing else, you could manipulate objects that exist on the server side via functions | Oct 29 01:01 |
| XRevan86 | Graphical toolkits is one field where class derivation actually makes sense | Oct 29 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But you don't even have function prototypes | Oct 29 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | Because if you take it all, it's practically taking GPL'd code in | Oct 29 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | how to use that all in a meaningful way? | Oct 29 01:03 |
| MinceR | gtk is well past the point where it made sense though :> | Oct 29 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | If you want to work with GTK+, you need its .h files or something generated from them i.e. .vapi | Oct 29 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: eh, doesn't matter much | Oct 29 01:07 |
| MinceR | i don't need function prototypes if i don't require type checking in compile time | Oct 29 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There are also structs, lots of them | Oct 29 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | and macros | Oct 29 01:09 |
| MinceR | you can represent structs with opaque handles and functions | Oct 29 01:09 |
| MinceR | getField(objectHandle, fieldName) | Oct 29 01:10 |
| MinceR | setField(objectHandle, fieldName, value) | Oct 29 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Besides, to manipulate the library effectively, you'd practically need to implement dynamic linking through dbus | Oct 29 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | and I simply don't see a difference legally between the two | Oct 29 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | throwing pointers in and out… | Oct 29 01:11 |
| MinceR | those are not pointers | Oct 29 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So you can call the simplest function through | Oct 29 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | If the API predefines that | Oct 29 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's no more dangerous than CLI options | Oct 29 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | foo --set-field | Oct 29 01:13 |
| MinceR | might be faster though | Oct 29 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: type checking is probably the biggest advantage | Oct 29 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | But still, a matter of convenience | Oct 29 01:15 |
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| MinceR | they can probably do without it if it means leeching off the work of others, giving nothing back | Oct 29 01:16 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554976.jpg | Oct 29 07:26 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/MH4491V | Oct 29 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-D&D dump. - Album on Imgur | Oct 29 07:40 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/14RvMxE.jpg | Oct 29 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Hmm IBM buyiing Redhat this could be horrible. | Oct 29 08:03 |
| MinceR | how so? | Oct 29 08:03 |
| oiaohm | IBM history with acquired companies is not good. | Oct 29 08:04 |
| oiaohm | centos, fedora and redhat distributions are all under Redhat control these days. | Oct 29 08:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://scottandscottllp.com/beware-of-ibms-blue-washing/ This is only one of the many things IBM normally does to companies they take over. | Oct 29 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scottandscottllp.com | Beware of IBM's “Blue Washing” | Oct 29 08:08 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes IBM does all the stunts normally dependably they have end up being given different names. | Oct 29 08:09 |
| MinceR | am i supposed to feel sorry for red hat? | Oct 29 08:12 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: its more the level of distruption to general development of open source stuff that could happen. | Oct 29 08:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: note I said could be horrible not that it would be horrible. | Oct 29 08:28 |
| MinceR | how could IBM disrupt it more than red hat already does? | Oct 29 08:29 |
| oiaohm | IBM one of the worlds largest legal times with huge numbers of patents and trademarks. | Oct 29 08:30 |
| oiaohm | times/teams | Oct 29 08:30 |
| oiaohm | Redhat really was not legal power house. | Oct 29 08:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you think IBM vs SCO. IBM has no problems playing on a legal deep pit of we will last you out. | Oct 29 08:35 |
| MinceR | at least that will make these retards stop worshipping rh/ibm | Oct 29 08:42 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/OTOyD1Q.jpg | Oct 29 08:47 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: true | Oct 29 09:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | kaniini: are you around today? | Oct 29 14:32 |
| kaniini | yes | Oct 29 14:32 |
| kaniini | sorry, i got a little ill this weekend | Oct 29 14:32 |
| kaniini | and then ibm bought red hat | Oct 29 14:32 |
| kaniini | and then i got really ill | Oct 29 14:32 |
| kaniini | i think i am going to go raise sheep at this point | Oct 29 14:32 |
| r_schestowitz | :-) | Oct 29 14:36 |
| r_schestowitz | tessier asked about progress, I think I can handle most things if I can SSH to the VMs (when powered on) | Oct 29 14:36 |
| r_schestowitz | mostly comparing files, permissions, DB state, testing by IP before shifting nameservers to the new site | Oct 29 14:37 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqq8AsHVsAUwY-Q.jpg:large | Oct 29 15:30 |
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| MinceR | https://p1.picsto.re/32Rgv.jpg | Oct 29 16:52 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/lnx6k7.png | Oct 29 17:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The doctors are trying to decide what to do with me. | Oct 29 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm still in a hospital gown and a smile. | Oct 29 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | laptop? | Oct 29 18:13 |
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| cubexyz | another CRT failed :-/ | Oct 29 19:01 |
| cubexyz | not counting the Amiga CRT, that's the last one | Oct 29 19:02 |
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| MinceR | why are CRTs important? | Oct 29 19:02 |
| cubexyz | made in dec 2003 | Oct 29 19:04 |
| cubexyz | well it did a few things that the LCDs couldn't do, like 640x400 mode | Oct 29 19:04 |
| cubexyz | although I'm told that there are LCDs that can do 640x400, none of mine can | Oct 29 19:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 29 19:05 |
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| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: ha | Oct 29 19:18 |
| r_schestowitz | well, you can't repair these easily | Oct 29 19:18 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe you can buy old unused ones | Oct 29 19:19 |
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| cubexyz | r_schestowitz, I still have my old Philips 107B which still works | Oct 29 19:55 |
| cubexyz | it was sitting in the corner doing nothing | Oct 29 19:55 |
| cubexyz | from 1996 | Oct 29 19:55 |
| cubexyz | I'm surprised it does 1280x1024 | Oct 29 19:56 |
| cubexyz | it has RCA inputs :) | Oct 29 19:58 |
| cubexyz | as well as the normal VGA connector | Oct 29 19:58 |
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| cubexyz | switching to 1024x768 as I'm not even sure the monitor really supports 1280x1024 | Oct 29 20:17 |
| cubexyz | seems to work though | Oct 29 20:18 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/kh6WEDm.jpg | Oct 29 20:55 |
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| MinceR | https://p1.picsto.re/xKPzv.jpg | Oct 29 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | Czechs… | Oct 29 21:43 |
| MinceR | and mate | Oct 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/pid_eins/status/1056924336349691905 | Oct 29 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: and mate | Oct 29 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | ? | Oct 29 21:44 |
| MinceR | checkmate | Oct 29 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | This cartoon was aired on Russian TV a lot | Oct 29 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | it's so messed up | Oct 29 21:45 |
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| MinceR | it was aired here as well, but i didn't watch it | Oct 29 21:45 |
| MinceR | or at least i don't remember a significant amount of it | Oct 29 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's hard to coherently remember madness that this cartoon is | Oct 29 21:50 |
| MinceR | i do remember that i much preferred the cartoons on Cartoon Network to stuff made in the eastern bloc | Oct 29 22:16 |
| tessier | kaniini: I've been thinking about growing rice, myself. Saw a cool video about a rice farmer. Sheep sound nice also. | Oct 29 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: even stuff like nu pogodi? | Oct 29 22:22 |
| MinceR | i'm even less aware of that | Oct 29 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well,_Just_You_Wait! | Oct 29 22:26 |
| MinceR | i mean, i'm aware it exists and i can very vaguely recall some image which might be it | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | oh, and i remember the name in russian | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | >From left to right: Hare and Wolf. | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 29 22:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Don't confuse the two | Oct 29 22:29 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/TZn4u6Y.png | Oct 29 22:39 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/sJ8CfAv.jpg | Oct 29 22:44 |
| MinceR | btw, is there a distinction between hare and rabbit in russian? | Oct 29 22:45 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | Oct 29 22:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: zayats and krolik | Oct 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | interesting | Oct 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | afaict there's no such distinction in hungarian | Oct 29 22:47 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: not a little bit? | Oct 29 22:52 |
| XRevan86 | like… "little hare" or "big rabbit" | Oct 29 22:52 |
| MinceR | well, you can prefix it with size, but afaik it's not part of the species names | Oct 29 22:53 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: cuniculus et lepus | Oct 29 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | Latin has that distinction too | Oct 29 23:01 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 23:02 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh_(1969_film) how about this one | Oct 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | i don't think i knew about that one | Oct 29 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B%D1%88_%D0%B8_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BD huh, no English article | Oct 29 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_from_Prostokvashino | Oct 29 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheburashka_(film) nuff said, also has a Japanese remaster and was a mascot of the 1980 Olimpics | Oct 29 23:11 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog_in_the_Fog that's an odd one | Oct 29 23:12 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ones of the most famous Soviet cartoons | Oct 29 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Dog | Oct 29 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_of_Mowgli | Oct 29 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | the last one isn't exactly safe for kids though %) | Oct 29 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%B2_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8F%D1%85_%D1%83_%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B0_(%D0%BC%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%82%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BC) | Oct 29 23:18 |
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| XRevan86 | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0 | Oct 29 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | Spoiler: raja dies | Oct 29 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | a faamily picture | Oct 29 23:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Have you seen any of these cartoons? | Oct 29 23:25 |
| MinceR | probably not | Oct 29 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%91%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%B2 this one doesn't really stand out, except… CATS | Oct 29 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | "A kitten called Bark" | Oct 29 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | or Woof maybe | Oct 29 23:26 |
| MinceR | what a stupid name for a cat | Oct 29 23:26 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/brpn_-0iSBw | Oct 29 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | they translated as "Woof" here | Oct 29 23:28 |
| MinceR | still stupid | Oct 29 23:29 |
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| XRevan86 | This cartoon has more social commentary than I remember %) | Oct 29 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: it's most unorthodox | Oct 29 23:33 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554923.jpg | Oct 29 23:48 |
| cubexyz | wait, interdimensional travel? | Oct 30 00:29 |
| MinceR | Lemon curry? | Oct 30 00:30 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't put windows in charge of a text editor :) | Oct 30 00:30 |
| cubexyz | you know, this 1996 monitor isn't too bad | Oct 30 00:32 |
| oiaohm | Really after the hyperv bigboobs you have to wonder how much not public acceptable stuff is in Windows source code. | Oct 30 01:19 |
| cubexyz | if hyperv bigboobs isn't a meme it should be :) | Oct 30 01:28 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, it's all a total crap shoot | Oct 30 01:31 |
| cubexyz | and even if we did have all the source code, it's so complex that you could spend an lifetime studying it and still not understand it | Oct 30 01:32 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.networkworld.com/article/2222804/software/microsoft-code-contains-the-phrase--big-boobs------yes--really.html it happened in 2012 code submits. | Oct 30 01:34 |
| oiaohm | Yes a hyperv magic value was bigboobs. | Oct 30 01:34 |
| cubexyz | after I changed the monitor xorg now gives me X Error: Badvalue blah blah :-/ | Oct 30 01:34 |
| cubexyz | ok, not a typo then | Oct 30 01:35 |
| cubexyz | I can't even say the msdos era was better, even though it was a lot simpler | Oct 30 01:35 |
| cubexyz | because of lockups... | Oct 30 01:35 |
| cubexyz | no doubt my xorg.conf is wrong now... not perfectly suited to the Philips 107B | Oct 30 01:36 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi based sensor kit offers Google Cloud analytics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116936 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a895f417-f572-47ad-bfb1-2fa1aeb27be5] | Oct 30 05:04 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116937 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cce9923b-da4a-48cb-a282-f42a4361810e] | Oct 30 05:07 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Pete Zaitcev: Where is Amazon? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116939 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61bd3550-30e9-41a9-abe6-aeb3eacd79bc] | Oct 30 06:25 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 29 Xfce & LXQt Spins May Be Delayed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116941 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ef67a6d8-3646-46ee-b40e-9b7749c8b52f] | Oct 30 06:52 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Greyborn Studios, Speed Dreams, Descenders, Halloween Deals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116942 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a46297e1-ab68-43ac-8db3-8c6ddb9497d2] | Oct 30 07:00 | |
| MinceR | https://magyarchan.net/boards/i/image/1540/88/15408805823836.webm | Oct 30 07:06 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116943 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9aaacfb6-9a66-4ab2-a57f-6d7fc2834975] | Oct 30 07:23 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554900.jpg | Oct 30 07:27 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18092014 | Oct 30 07:45 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla Things Gateway, Firefox Telemetry with Prio and Servo Report http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116944 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f8229324-74cd-4800-99c2-b7ce021de43f] | Oct 30 08:10 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554737.jpg | Oct 30 08:10 |
| r_schestowitz | babies need to when there are 600,000 humans left | Oct 30 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | not 7 billion or over | Oct 30 08:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 30 08:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS in Government: Progress in San Francisco's Open Source Elections Project and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116945 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f565dbbb-a5f6-41b5-81ca-acd230122298] | Oct 30 08:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Manjaro 18.0 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116946 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e5ee2d43-06e5-4b72-b272-dc504ec3716d] | Oct 30 08:26 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT5_can51VA | Oct 30 08:32 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: What Comes Up Next in Linux (4.20 or 5.0) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116947 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d136f0a4-4cf5-44cc-b78c-ff45cc203b2f] | Oct 30 08:32 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Elementary's Pantheon Desktop Update Proposed For Fedora 30 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116948 [https://pleroma.site/objects/57a0354c-664f-48e8-a13e-1714c7b3ebd8] | Oct 30 08:34 | |
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| r_schestowitz | MinceR: 'fashion' | Oct 30 08:38 |
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| oiaohm | http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1810.3/03701.html At long last a race free kill that is not cgroups. | Oct 30 09:26 |
| oiaohm | Yes that is following the Unix moto everything is a file. | Oct 30 09:27 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Openwashing and Corporate Raiding of FOSS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116950 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7e09113e-7c2f-4cd7-9b87-8c51639cd9c2] | Oct 30 09:28 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Working with data streams on the Linux command line http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116949 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61724ed1-ffc4-42ee-a931-402bf99c83ae] | Oct 30 09:36 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116951 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d251a19e-74b6-47c9-acd0-6f1ea86837d3] | Oct 30 09:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: An independent barony in the kingdom of IBM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116952 by @sjvn who is being optimistic based on what #redhat management says [https://pleroma.site/objects/89c840b2-3ef9-4753-a196-a8d1303f9097] | Oct 30 09:40 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS: Drones, FOSDEM, OpenStack and Nybble http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116953 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75263b56-6c8a-4823-a05e-037067502c15] | Oct 30 10:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: RADV Vulkan Driver Lands Transform Feedback For Mesa 18.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116954 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b78b5714-937f-4b21-865f-bb742e583b65] | Oct 30 10:20 | |
| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: seen that phoronix | Oct 30 10:39 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: A Look at Klavaro and New Bison Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116955 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a2e003ae-489e-4de9-a737-805726fe7cc6] | Oct 30 11:00 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: Ibase and Raspberry PI http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116956 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77842671-d1d7-4c68-b568-49eced4f7be4] | Oct 30 11:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 80% of Barcelona’s IT investment linked to open source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116957 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c5d5a4b-fbc3-4f57-bd5c-b61840e5a049] | Oct 30 11:17 | |
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| schestowitz | >> I predicted earlier this month. Stock fell, hence cheap sale. | Oct 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > Makes sense. I missed it because I've been ignoring Red Hat more or | Oct 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > less completely. I suppose if Canonical becomes publicly traded it | Oct 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > would be important to follow the stock prices for the same reason. | Oct 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz | > Though I think they've been sucking up to M$ instead. | Oct 30 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft might try to buy Canonical to kill any hopes of gnu/linux desktop/laptop future except chromeos. | Oct 30 11:22 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: buying Canonical would not really stop gnu/linux desktop. Valve and Collabora would be your larger targets. | Oct 30 11:34 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Chalubo, Australia and SS7 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116958 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2a2e309e-726e-487e-8f3b-5ccc888b9edd] | Oct 30 11:35 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: true.. | Oct 30 12:23 |
| schestowitz | <li><h5><a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/10/ibm-buys-red-hat-with-eye-on-cloud-dominance/" rel="nofollow">This is fine: IBM acquires Red Hat</a></h5> | Oct 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Oct 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | <p>Of course, the SCO-IBM lawsuit is still going, so that's a thing. IBM has a countersuit against SCO (suing over IBM using Unix stuff in AIX) that claims SCO (then Caldera) "copied and distributed hundreds of thousands of lines of IBM code, which IBM contributed to Linux under the GPL, after SCO lost permission to do so by repudiating and breaching the GPL. " </p> | Oct 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | </blockquote> | Oct 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | </li> | Oct 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: free time later this week/weekend? | Oct 30 12:46 |
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| MinceR | rh was licking m$'s boots too | Oct 30 13:08 |
| MinceR | and who cares if canonical gets sold and by whom | Oct 30 13:08 |
| MinceR | they stopped doing anything long ago | Oct 30 13:08 |
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| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a9KLE7L_460svvp9.webm | Oct 30 13:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, SCO did copy and paste Linux kernel code into Unixware. | Oct 30 14:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Linux Kernel Personality feature was where they did it. | Oct 30 14:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft's Windows Subsystem For Linux doesn't use Linux kernel code. It uses a 'compatible interface". | Oct 30 14:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, it's not completely compatible and likely never will be. | Oct 30 14:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's simply "compatible enough" that most software for GNU/Linux manages to run on it. | Oct 30 14:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not entirely error free or with optimal performance. | Oct 30 14:37 |
| XRevan86 | Of course, otherwise they would've have to ♥ Open Source enough to free Windows's code under GPLv2. | Oct 30 14:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In many cases, running a GNU/Linux distro in an emulator is still a better experience. | Oct 30 14:38 |
| MinceR | not running windows is an even better experience | Oct 30 14:41 |
| schestowitz | not running systemd either is best experience | Oct 30 15:02 |
| MinceR | yup | Oct 30 15:22 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Trying To Make Ubuntu 18.10 Run As Fast As Intel's Clear Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116962 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b1ee23d-1bb0-40af-8afc-390a0c914d63] | Oct 30 16:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 19.04 Is The "Disco Dingo" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116961 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1b74acca-cee2-4454-a538-aa4edc303854] | Oct 30 16:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing the release of Fedora 29 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116960 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90a15691-7502-46a6-850a-4dfd2fc355bc] | Oct 30 16:29 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 55 Percent of Cloud Developers Contribute to Open Source, Says Survey http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116959 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e02b0d93-fb18-4b10-a5aa-3849046a3fa3] | Oct 30 16:32 | |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqxVN4BW4AULZfn.jpg:large | Oct 30 18:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PipeWire-2018-PulseAudio-JACK | Oct 30 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Here we go again. | Oct 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | is it based on dbugs? | Oct 30 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of doing software right, it tends to be redone badly a large number of times. | Oct 30 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Often when the previous version was finally stable enough to use. | Oct 30 18:34 |
| MinceR | natural consequence of the CADT model | Oct 30 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Maybe call dbus-broker "DBus Broken" if it doesn't turn out well. :) | Oct 30 18:37 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 30 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/HEoi6CpaUWw | Oct 30 18:40 |
| kaniini | schestowitz yes, i think i should have the vm's up soon | Oct 30 18:40 |
| kaniini | keep getting slammed with other shit | Oct 30 18:40 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: SDL2, Albion Online, Despotism 3k, Chasm and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116965 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b49154d0-f239-45d6-b24b-4368d7bf56e8] | Oct 30 18:51 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, Reproducible Builds, QEMU http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116966 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c7c8433-bf3c-4906-9a2e-dbad5212e736] | Oct 30 18:57 | |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: it's ok | Oct 30 19:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116970 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a25f9170-9233-428f-b1a0-91e28b0d89fd] | Oct 30 19:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Outs Linux Kernel Patch for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Fix 4 #Security Flaws http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116969 [https://pleroma.site/objects/abcd7bdb-83bf-467f-b759-dd90912814fa] | Oct 30 19:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Refines Hybrid Cloud Innovation with Latest Version of the World’s Leading Enterprise Linux Platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116968 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1a8fc067-c48b-46d1-9202-afa08fb37970] | Oct 30 20:00 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Secure net appliance offers optional SFP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116967 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5a546b58-7f66-4b41-bf6f-57bb5ec35504] | Oct 30 20:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: The "Open Organization" and the Sold Organization http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116971 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d04e1ee4-0600-4e7d-8e83-4623c82b89d0] | Oct 30 20:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Update on #PipeWire http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/116972 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d86722fe-5175-4573-9c97-89865d57d7be] | Oct 30 20:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: US health care system fucked up day 5. | Oct 30 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After going through severe withdrawal from my high dose psychiatric meds, I went to the emergency room without any sleep for over 3 days, fought with everyone, spent 12 hours there, and managed to finally convince them to come down on the dosage and refer me to a different psychiatrist. | Oct 30 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it turned out that they ended up admitting that the Seroquel XR 400was the wrong type and twice as much as I actually needed. | Oct 30 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After previously telling me to just go home and keep taking it. | Oct 30 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They sent me with a script for 200 immediate release. I went to sleep immediately after taking it and I feel good today for the first time in 10 years. | Oct 30 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't want to make any changes to your meds in the ER because "It's a legal liability for the hospital.". So I said, "Yeah, screw the patient, do the right thing for the hospital.". | Oct 30 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And she looks at me, "Yeah, I can see where you might think that.". | Oct 30 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "It is what it is and you darned well know it.". | Oct 30 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It would be a legal liability to admit that | Oct 30 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It would, which is why she kind of admitted it without admitting it. | Oct 30 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She worded it "I can see why you might think that.". | Oct 30 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not "Yes, that's what's happening.". | Oct 30 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We are a nation of lawyers and this is what happens because of that. | Oct 30 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Similiar things happen in Russia, and this is not a nation of law^W lawyers | Oct 30 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told them if something bad happened last night from their discharge order to go right back on the medication at high doses without any currently in my system, I would hold them accountable for that because it's what they told me to do. | Oct 30 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Meet me in the middle. A lower dose will not cause more harm than these instructions would, so we could just do that instead." | Oct 30 20:18 |
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| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fexpp.livejournal.com%2F1017069.html an example | Oct 30 20:22 |
| XRevan86 | > to the transfer type Malakhov | Oct 30 20:23 |
| XRevan86 | to the Malakhov TV talk show | Oct 30 20:23 |
| XRevan86 | > And then the transfer goes on zomboyaschiku | Oct 30 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | And then the recording airs on a zombie-box (Russian slang for TV) | Oct 30 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | a zombifier, so to speak | Oct 30 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | So basically, doctors are under a lot of scrutiny, and not the good kind of | Oct 30 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | Legends are told of bureaucracy in schools and hospitals of Russia | Oct 30 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | > a zombifier, so to speak | Oct 30 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | or a brain-wash box | Oct 30 20:33 |
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| MinceR | (video) (audio) https://twitter.com/snazzysanoj/status/1056501640147038210 | Oct 30 20:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is uncomfortable to watch | Oct 30 20:37 |
| XRevan86 | > my birthday | Oct 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | random number | Oct 30 20:38 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/221/ | Oct 30 20:41 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554848.png | Oct 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554756.jpg | Oct 30 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.facebook.com/ryan.farmer.92167/posts/291930448318435 | Oct 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I reviewed the hospital on Facebook and then some. | Oct 30 21:47 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/27EJh07.gifv | Oct 30 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What a strange person | Oct 30 21:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 30 21:58 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18010356 | Oct 30 22:22 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/4xnGben | Oct 30 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | >> Microsoft might try to buy Canonical to kill any hopes of gnu/linux | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | >> desktop/laptop future except chromeos. | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > They have their moles inside Canonical in many places already so they | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > may try to do to Canonical what they did to Nokia, just distributed a | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > little. M$ has been unchallenged (legally) in their practice of keeping | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > contracts as trade secrets. Even government contracts are kept secret. | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > I wonder if those include non-compete or non-disparagement clauses. M$ | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > is trying to create the illusion of success with Azure. With Windoze | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > NT, they tied what was effectively a non-compete clause into the | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > contract for the NT SDK -- and made the NT SDK a prerequisite for the | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > W95 SDK. People only checked one layer deep... | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > M$ could be doing something similar with Azure. If only the contract | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > would be published or leaked. | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > PS. I suppose M$ and its shills have been all over this page: | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents | Oct 31 05:42 |
| schestowitz | > PPS. Now as 20 years ago, OEMs are the barrier. Again, it is probably | Oct 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz | > about the secret contracts. | Oct 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz | Been fighting with a chromebook (not mine) tonight.... KDE sort of broke, had to move that over to unity for now. Thank goodness for choice... | Oct 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz | At least laptops are now widely available without Windows and they're not super-expensive. | Oct 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz | [20:14] <DaemonFC[m]> They sent me with a script for 200 immediate release. I went to sleep immediately after taking it and I feel good today for the first time in 10 years. | Oct 31 05:43 |
| schestowitz | Really sad story, DaemonFC[m] | Oct 31 05:44 |
| schestowitz | thanks for sharing | Oct 31 05:44 |
| schestowitz | [21:57] <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/27EJh07.gifv | Oct 31 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Probably some mechanic looking to make a joke | Oct 31 06:15 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <MinceR> https://imgur.com/gallery/4xnGben | Oct 31 06:17 |
| schestowitz | see first comment (image) | Oct 31 06:17 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 31 06:17 |
| MinceR | 31 071533 <+schestowitz> Probably some mechanic looking to make a joke | Oct 31 06:56 |
| MinceR | he builds all sorts of cool, dangerous stuff :) | Oct 31 06:56 |
| schestowitz | safety first... | Oct 31 07:06 |
| schestowitz | >> At least laptops are now widely available without Windows and they're | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | >> not super-expensive. | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > Not here. At the beginning of the fall I did a check online and in | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > person of all the stores in the area, online even as far south as Tornio | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > and Haparanda. Not a single one had any Chromebooks on the shelf. They | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > had just Vista10 plus, at a single store, a *very, very small* sample of | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > Macintoshes. Though two stores were willing to special order | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > Chromebooks, it would be special order and only a choice of two or three | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > models, except for a third store which actually had a larger number | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > available in their catalog but still would require a special order. | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > One kid we know has been trying to use a Macintosh in high school but | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > the teachers are actively giving the cold shoulder to anyone not toeing | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > the M$ line. Ostensibly the educational system is supporting | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > GNU/Linux, Chrome/Linux, OS X, and some of the Vista series. In | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > practice only the last one. | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > As far as work sites go, all employers that I've even heard of in the | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > area are so locked into M$ that they sound like M$ subcontractors based | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > in Redmond rather than what one would expect further away. The current | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > situation makes the mess I complained about a few years ago actually | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > look comparatively open. I don't see a way to frame the local situation | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > in a non-negative light. | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > A friend going back to school at what was once a prestigious university | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > has described less than optimal conditions and institutional | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > capabilities. (Did I do the understatement thing correctly?) As | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > encouragement I've scrounged up the parts for a cheaper version of this, | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > which I will deliver soon: | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.kubii.fr/cartes-extension-cameras-raspberry-pi/2112-kit-cluster-hat-4-pi-zero-kubii-3272496009943.html | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:12 |
| schestowitz | > I'm hoping it will compensate a little for the otherwise reduced | Oct 31 07:13 |
| schestowitz | > learning opportunities. | Oct 31 07:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 07:13 |
| schestowitz | > Globally things are better. System76 is coming out with a new model in | Oct 31 07:13 |
| schestowitz | > the next day or two. Purism is also selling some nice stuff. Etc. | Oct 31 07:13 |
| schestowitz | The situation described above closely resembles what I saw in southeast Asia, both at stores and schools. Gates will just carry on bribing the media to turn a blind eye to this problem and only bash Google. | Oct 31 07:13 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/2oOAKKc.jpg | Oct 31 07:36 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/551959.jpg | Oct 31 07:45 |
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| schestowitz | >>> Heres today's batch. One thought about IBM's purchase of Red Hat was | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> that it did a $1 billion investment back in 2001 | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> https://www.cnet.com/news/ibm-to-spend-1-billion-on-linux-in-2001/ | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> I can't find the links but it later announced, before 12 months had | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> passed, that it had more than fully recovered its investment. IBM is | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> nothing if not conservative, so there will be big money flowing in from | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> the Red Hat purchase. | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> Then again in 2013 | Oct 31 08:28 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | >>> https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/41926.wss | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | >> Given all the other options, inc. Google, it's not too bad. We need to | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | >> pressure IBM to stop this patent policy however. They might decide to | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | >> change (at a higher level). | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > Jim Whitehurst is in his very early fifties and the current CEO of IBM | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > is at the age where they are usually put out to pasture at that company. | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > The best possible arrangement given my limited knowledge would be for | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > him to assume the helm and for her to get her payout and gold watch. | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > The worst would be them cutting most of the Red Hat staff. I think IBM | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > will try to keep their decisions under wraps and observers will just | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > have to observe what happens, maybe getting a hint or two from the next | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > SEC filings. | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | The situation you describe seems unlikely to me, but who knows... | Oct 31 08:29 |
| schestowitz | >> The situation you describe seems unlikely to me, but who knows... | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > I can't assess the likelihood of either scenario happening. Also, the | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > only information the SEC filing will contain will be exactly what IBM | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > wants the public to see, no more no less. | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > It's just that Whithurst replacing Rometty would probably be a very good | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > thing. However, from what I gather C-level executives at large | Oct 31 08:38 |
| schestowitz | > companies spend almost no minutes per day doing anything other than | Oct 31 08:39 |
| schestowitz | > maneuvering. Some work might get done incidental to that but only as a | Oct 31 08:39 |
| schestowitz | > side effect. | Oct 31 08:39 |
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| oiaohm | The debate over how to fix pid kill looks like it still going to be sysvinit incompadible. | Oct 31 10:35 |
| amarsh04 | support in #radeon is excellent as ever | Oct 31 11:12 |
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| cubexyz | < schestowitz> Microsoft might try to buy Canonical to kill any hopes of gnu/linux desktop/laptop future except chromeos | Oct 31 20:18 |
| cubexyz | well you know I'm actually not that worried | Oct 31 20:18 |
| cubexyz | still we should be vigilant | Oct 31 20:19 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554736.jpg | Oct 31 20:20 |
| cubexyz | keep up your Unix/Linux skills, explore different OSes, keep many distros on optical disk | Oct 31 20:20 |
| MinceR | if canonical is our only hope for that, we're screwed | Oct 31 20:20 |
| MinceR | i'll acquire some bsd skills | Oct 31 20:20 |
| cubexyz | RT11 is also worth a look | Oct 31 20:38 |
| MinceR | what's that? | Oct 31 20:40 |
| cubexyz | it's a small single user real time operating system | Oct 31 20:41 |
| MinceR | single user isn't really my thing | Oct 31 20:41 |
| cubexyz | more of a hobbyist OS than a replacement for Linux though | Oct 31 20:41 |
| cubexyz | it's very compact and elegant | Oct 31 20:42 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554707.jpg | Oct 31 20:42 |
| cubexyz | also we have full source for it | Oct 31 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: eagles, stop it now | Oct 31 20:44 |
| cubexyz | lots of geese around here :) | Oct 31 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Definitely not a replacement for Linux (: | Oct 31 20:45 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, there is a TCP/IP package for RT11 :) | Oct 31 20:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Haiku seems to be progressing finally. | Oct 31 22:47 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | GATTACA is on the Roku Channel this month. | Oct 31 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | It's the film that defined my love for sci-fi | Oct 31 23:27 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554576.jpg | Oct 31 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We already have a form of the system in GATTACA in the US. | Oct 31 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The mental health system. | Oct 31 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Enter it and get a diagnosis and find doors closing to you forever. | Oct 31 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | So a wolf card | Oct 31 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/волчий_билет there's an idiom like that in Russian | Oct 31 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | means a kind of document that taints its owner | Oct 31 23:32 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/CmQSMFT.gifv | Oct 31 23:35 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554633.jpg | Oct 31 23:58 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/bBs3R9B.jpg | Nov 01 01:06 |
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| tessier | kaniini: Any luck with those machine images? Hopefully they at least booted for you. | Nov 01 02:16 |
| kaniini | yes | Nov 01 03:11 |
| kaniini | should be able to finish up tomorrow or next day | Nov 01 03:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's with Canonical's press release saying the IBM buyout of Red Hat doesn't mean much because fewer organizations use Red Hat and moved to Ubuntu anyway? | Nov 01 03:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Has the situation actually changed that much? | Nov 01 03:22 |
| kaniini | that's just how canonical is | Nov 01 03:31 |
| kaniini | they're salty about everything | Nov 01 03:31 |
| kaniini | they're salty alpine kicked their ass in containers | Nov 01 03:31 |
| kaniini | they're salty ubuntu phone flopped | Nov 01 03:32 |
| kaniini | they're salty that nobody gives a shit about mir | Nov 01 03:32 |
| kaniini | and apparently | Nov 01 03:32 |
| kaniini | they're salty that they didn't get bought by IBM | Nov 01 03:32 |
| kaniini | like if you honestly look at wins and losses for canonical | Nov 01 03:32 |
| kaniini | fuck all has worked out for them since about 2012 honestly | Nov 01 03:32 |
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| oiaohm | The situation has not changed much yet. | Nov 01 03:51 |
| oiaohm | https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/servers/cloud | Nov 01 03:52 |
| oiaohm | We are talking vertically intergrated with IBM> | Nov 01 03:52 |
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| XRevan86 | It seems my main screen has found its end | Nov 01 07:30 |
| XRevan86 | won't power up | Nov 01 07:30 |
| schestowitz | [03:32] <kaniini> like if you honestly look at wins and losses for canonical | Nov 01 08:19 |
| schestowitz | From what I can tell, he still loses money on the company | Nov 01 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Some called it insolvent | Nov 01 08:20 |
| schestowitz | He took back control from (was it?) Jane | Nov 01 08:20 |
| schestowitz | And I worry the only asset he has there is the brand and users | Nov 01 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft would greatly benefit from buying that, even if just to rattle desktop GNU/Linux | Nov 01 08:20 |
| kaniini | that was probably a smart move on his part | Nov 01 08:20 |
| kaniini | because jane started a lot of unnecessary wars | Nov 01 08:20 |
| kaniini | jane snubbed docker hard, which is why they decided to get in with alpine | Nov 01 08:21 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know this | Nov 01 08:21 |
| schestowitz | I did feel odd that Docket went with Alpine | Nov 01 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Back when Ian was still alive, I think as their CTO or something | Nov 01 08:22 |
| schestowitz | up until then Alpine seem like a niche non-actor | Nov 01 08:22 |
| schestowitz | *had seemd | Nov 01 08:22 |
| schestowitz | *seemed | Nov 01 08:23 |
| schestowitz | afaik, Torvalds still uses alpine the mail client | Nov 01 08:23 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(email_client) | Nov 01 08:23 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: IBM Redhat | Nov 01 11:49 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Microsoft Canonical | Nov 01 11:49 |
| schestowitz | naaa | Nov 01 12:04 |
| schestowitz | possible but not likely (the latter) | Nov 01 12:04 |
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| cubexyz | n | Nov 01 14:08 |
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| cubexyz | ok, "new" monitor is stretching my display | Nov 01 15:06 |
| MinceR | >and moved to Ubuntu anyway? | Nov 01 15:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 01 15:24 |
| MinceR | maybe more would have worked out for canonical if they did anything | Nov 01 15:24 |
| MinceR | anything at all | Nov 01 15:24 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/YADmP1O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cNlyGpY.jpg | Nov 01 15:28 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqteP0BXcAId_yu.jpg:large | Nov 01 15:37 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/ujFGfVu | Nov 01 16:39 |
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| MinceR | Nice bird. Oh wait.... >> https://i.imgur.com/Mm2ck3y.jpg | Nov 01 17:25 |
| schestowitz | someone posted it in disapora | Nov 01 17:48 |
| schestowitz | very nice | Nov 01 17:48 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554629.jpg | Nov 01 17:55 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHhhF9IcEm8 | Nov 01 18:08 |
| MinceR | https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2018/11/01 | Nov 01 18:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I might try TrueOS at some point. | Nov 01 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Linux situation is getting worse. The timing of Linus Torvalds stepping down weeks before the IBM takeover of Red Hat is suspicious. | Nov 01 20:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that the future of Linux is to be decided by a cabal of large corporations, like IBM and Microsoft. | Nov 01 20:11 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 01 20:12 |
| MinceR | i'll probably try DragonflyBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD | Nov 01 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder which one is easy to install and supports my laptop well. | Nov 01 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do they all have a Linux binary support subsystem? | Nov 01 20:18 |
| MinceR | dunno, but it seems only dfbsd supports LUKS and LVM2, which would be very handy on my laptop and tablet | Nov 01 20:18 |
| MinceR | as most of the SSD space is in an LVM2 over LUKS volume | Nov 01 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I read about people using the Linux Steam on *bsd. | Nov 01 20:18 |
| MinceR | also, it seems wiser to use stuff compiled for the system you're using | Nov 01 20:18 |
| MinceR | hm, i think there was one on freebsd, but i'm not really attracted to freebsd | Nov 01 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the TrueOS has something called GELI or something like that. Never heard of it. | Nov 01 20:19 |
| MinceR | they have a CoC and a jordan hubbard who's pushing for launchd and insane shit like that | Nov 01 20:19 |
| MinceR | and they have a lot of m$ and crApple fanboys | Nov 01 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | TrueOS is riding on FreeBSD-Current. | Nov 01 20:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, geli's the usual disk encryption format for *BSD | Nov 01 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not really a fork as much as a FreeBSD distribution. | Nov 01 20:19 |
| MinceR | yeah | Nov 01 20:20 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554613.jpg | Nov 01 20:44 |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/261 | Nov 01 20:46 |
| MinceR | https://p1.picsto.re/zDASv.jpg | Nov 01 20:50 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554592.jpg | Nov 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554572.jpg | Nov 01 23:03 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/4b8FAd6.png | Nov 01 23:40 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: The Linus step down is linked to a mess that happened over stackleak patches. | Nov 01 23:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: IBM takeover of Redhat is that share price did not grow this year. Just both happened at the same kind of time. | Nov 01 23:44 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: stackleak patches Linus used a lot of bad language over the stackleak developer using bug on. Based on the documentation with the Linux kernel the stackleak developer was doing the right thing. Yes issue was not stackleak developer it was that kernel documentation had not been updated. | Nov 01 23:47 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: basically Linus tore strips off the wrong person then people started asking questions about defects in process. | Nov 01 23:48 |
| MinceR | that's what the SJW web brigades would like you to believe | Nov 01 23:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: no its not the SJW people. | Nov 01 23:50 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its a matter of mailing list record. | Nov 01 23:50 |
| MinceR | sure it's not | Nov 01 23:50 |
| MinceR | and these "not SJW" people thought a CoC written and forced by an SJW would be the solution to their problem | Nov 01 23:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the stackleak developer was going to ingore it. Linus in fact put him self before Code of Conflit. | Nov 01 23:51 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I got an issue with this widescreen monitor | Nov 01 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Really is Linux kernel still has major documentation problem and lack of documenation writers. So lazily importing something prewritten without checking it carefully should be suspected. | Nov 01 23:52 |
| cubexyz | the OSD doesn't seem to be able to set 4:3 aspect ratio | Nov 01 23:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that can be the case. A monitor does not have to be able to set aspect ratios. | Nov 01 23:53 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: yes there are times you want a tv not a monitor. | Nov 01 23:53 |
| cubexyz | it's stretching 800x600 | Nov 01 23:54 |
| cubexyz | kind of silly | Nov 01 23:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I had a laptop streching the bios as 4:3 bios to wide screen a while back. | Nov 01 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes kind of silly but the way it is. | Nov 01 23:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: think the lazy way you could do something in documentation. Ignore CoC and look at general Linux kernel documentation. If it a lazy way to-do it that the way the Linux kernel has done documenation. | Nov 01 23:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember when the Documentation directory was a random pile of .txt files. And you are expect them to write their own code of conflit when it needs to be more long winded when they can copy it and modify it latter as people complain. | Nov 01 23:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: as people complain that might get more documentation authors that Linux absolutely need. | Nov 01 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Majority of the Linux kernel documentations have been written because people were sick of explaining way out of problems. Even worse a lot are like copied LWM write up/conference write ups. Ie the person doing them was written them for something else so they seam odd. | Nov 01 23:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ also I have a bit longer history with the code of conduct. That started with the same one the Linux kernel has now. But its been changed quite a bit over time. | Nov 02 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Most of what is in the conference one is laws. | Nov 02 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Cyberbulling in Australia there is about 300 prosecutions a year. Would have been kind of bad if Linus came to Australia Linux conference and got arrested. | Nov 02 00:12 |
| MinceR | the cancerd cabal would have loved that | Nov 02 00:16 |
| oiaohm | USA laws in 2011 started changing the same way. | Nov 02 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Of the cyberbulling laws will start coming in enforce june 2019 | Nov 02 00:18 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: exactly. I might not like the CoC but with what legally happen so Linus stays at rains to block some of the really stupid stuff getting into Linux kernel his responses had to be improved. | Nov 02 00:19 |
| oiaohm | Its one thing to say is all SJW stuff. Problem is the issue some of the laws say for repeat offenceds of cyberbulling who are still doing this its 5 years in jail. | Nov 02 00:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: how would you like Linus taken out of the Linux community for 5 years. A few months off is nothing compared to the legal threat. | Nov 02 00:22 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, maybe I can upgrade the monitor's firmware? | Nov 02 00:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: if you can your are insanely lucky. | Nov 02 00:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: most monitors don't have updateable firmware. Most that do are a pure pain to perform requiring a jtag and really knowing what you doing to hook it up and do it. | Nov 02 00:25 |
| cubexyz | I don't feel very lucky | Nov 02 00:25 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: looks like they took over him permanently | Nov 02 00:26 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, there's something called a "usb upstream cable" | Nov 02 00:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Linus is back rejecting patches and running the kernel. | Nov 02 00:27 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: just now with more controlled language. | Nov 02 00:27 |
| cubexyz | ah, I think the _newer_ Dell monitors have that... this one probably doesn't | Nov 02 00:27 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: not all newer dell monitors selected ones. | Nov 02 00:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: about 1 in 3 new dell monitors have that. | Nov 02 00:28 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: basically odds are against you. | Nov 02 00:29 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: yeah, and on a leash | Nov 02 00:31 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Linus not rained in with the ways laws are going in a few years we would not have him. | Nov 02 00:45 |
| oiaohm | The legal side is why you are seeing huge number of projects take up CoC. | Nov 02 00:46 |
| oiaohm | Its also why the arguement for no CoC at all is kind of dead in the water. When on the public internet you have to operate inside legal requirements. | Nov 02 00:47 |
| MinceR | what's new on the legal side? | Nov 02 00:48 |
| MinceR | perhaps it would be best to do free software on the dark web | Nov 02 00:48 |
| MinceR | freedom of speech seems to be dead anyway | Nov 02 00:48 |
| cubexyz | freedom of speech on IRC... you can type whatever you want | Nov 02 00:49 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: it started appearing 2011. With different places starting to write laws to punish online behaviors. | Nov 02 00:49 |
| MinceR | yeah, and if the fascists found out who i were, they could punish me for it | Nov 02 00:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: what online behaviors? | Nov 02 00:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: no you cannot type what ever you like in irc. | Nov 02 00:50 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: also, which states did it? | Nov 02 00:50 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, I can but I'll invoke my own ethical behaviour using reason | Nov 02 00:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://freenode.net/policies like here at freenode we have to obey UK laws on what is acceptable online behavior. | Nov 02 00:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: or operators of freenode are forced to kick you out if they see you. | Nov 02 00:52 |
| MinceR | or you could start a religion under which you must say the things you want to say | Nov 02 00:55 |
| MinceR | after all, the ECHR ruled that religious feelings are more important than freedom of speech | Nov 02 00:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.statista.com/statistics/291082/us-states-with-state-cyber-bullying-laws-policy/ Its the off campus one. Like 2017 only 16 usa states you could be procecuted for that. | Nov 02 00:57 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: but the laws are being revised that fairly soon it will be 48 states of the USA +. | Nov 02 00:57 |
| MinceR | so only usa? | Nov 02 00:57 |
| oiaohm | Australia got its laws in 2014 with 300+ prosecutions a year since. | Nov 02 00:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically Australia is kind of head of the curve on this legal change. | Nov 02 00:59 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, this is a bit of a sidenote but if you ever come across a computer monitor that can do all these things: | Nov 02 01:00 |
| MinceR | sucks to be australians, then | Nov 02 01:00 |
| oiaohm | Uk was 2015 | Nov 02 01:00 |
| cubexyz | widescreen, HDMI, composite, VGA, s-video, component, 4:3 aspect ratio... let me know :) | Nov 02 01:00 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: that a TV not a monitor. | Nov 02 01:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that feature set your normally will have to have a tv tuner as well. | Nov 02 01:02 |
| cubexyz | and it can't be too big either | Nov 02 01:02 |
| cubexyz | no >= 42 inch behemoth | Nov 02 01:02 |
| cubexyz | 22 inch is probably big enough | Nov 02 01:02 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure my TV can do 4:3 actually | Nov 02 01:03 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, Philips made something called a 107B | Nov 02 01:04 |
| cubexyz | it could do composite and VGA | Nov 02 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you do have to check if the tv does 4:3. Its normally there for historic game console compadiblity. | Nov 02 01:12 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: and historic dvd compadiblity. | Nov 02 01:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: once the USA is done almost everywhere Linux converences are held will be covered by the laws. | Nov 02 01:13 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554488.jpg | Nov 02 01:41 |
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| schestowitz | [00:56] <MinceR> after all, the ECHR ruled that religious feelings are more important than freedom of speech | Nov 02 06:57 |
| schestowitz | Or even truth, never mind the feelings | Nov 02 06:58 |
| schestowitz | Atheism will soon be labeled "hate group" here | Nov 02 06:58 |
| schestowitz | for pointing out God is fiction and Mo, if he ever existed, was into a 9-year-old, based on their scripture | Nov 02 06:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oiaohm the CoC fights can be a waste of time | Nov 02 07:00 |
| schestowitz | yes, there's disruption due to it | Nov 02 07:00 |
| schestowitz | participating in the fight is what the disruptors want | Nov 02 07:00 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the reality is with CoC like it or not the law is going that way. | Nov 02 07:24 |
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| oiaohm | https://ifixit.org/blog/11986/iphones-are-allergic-to-helium/ this makes me wonder is this only helium or is this also stop when you have too much hydrogen. | Nov 02 14:30 |
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| MinceR | 02 080041 < schestowitz> participating in the fight is what the disruptors want | Nov 02 14:35 |
| MinceR | no, they want an easy way to have anyone they dislike kicked from the project | Nov 02 14:35 |
| MinceR | and probably also to blackmail people so they do what the SJWs (or their handlers) want | Nov 02 14:35 |
| MinceR | like add backdoors | Nov 02 14:35 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/eaijmrr.jpg | Nov 02 14:56 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/goVDsu9.png | Nov 02 15:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ | Nov 02 15:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Red Hat declared KDE "deprecated". | Nov 02 15:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: systemd-desktopd (GNOME) for all! | Nov 02 15:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 02 15:40 |
| MinceR | i saw that coming | Nov 02 15:40 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: KDE was only ever barely supported to begin with on RHEL. | Nov 02 15:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was an alternate desktop and they did not package the full thing. | Nov 02 15:49 |
| MinceR | nothing was really supported on rHELL anyway, except lock-in | Nov 02 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you wanted large parts of KDE, you had to get them as EPEL packages and Red Hat would not let you open support tickets on them. | Nov 02 15:49 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554342.png | Nov 02 16:01 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554527.png | Nov 02 16:09 |
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| MinceR | https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2018/11/02 | Nov 02 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pearls Before Swine by Stephan Pastis for November 02, 2018 - GoComics | Nov 02 16:16 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: good links today | Nov 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: not too surprising | Nov 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz | KDE development slowed down a lot | Nov 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz | see Planet KDE | Nov 02 16:49 |
| schestowitz | very slow maintenance | Nov 02 16:50 |
| schestowitz | El Reg trolls by associating it with IBM | Nov 02 16:50 |
| schestowitz | The writer is usually not THIS bad | Nov 02 16:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe editor being a prick with this headline | Nov 02 16:50 |
| schestowitz | KDE will be maintained still by a lot of groups and companies | Nov 02 16:50 |
| schestowitz | RHEL never relies much on KDE; same for Fedora | Nov 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | It's like a "we have that thing too....." | Nov 02 16:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 02 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LawrenceHecht/status/1058357678060249088 | Nov 02 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LawrenceHecht: @schestowitz Did you look at the details of the survey? That we specifically asked how many functions are being dep… https://t.co/FiFFOFTfx9 | Nov 02 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Did you look at the details of the survey? That we specifically asked how many functions are being deployed? We purposefully asked about specific products being used to avoid serverless whitewash. | Nov 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | 0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes | Nov 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | ' | Nov 02 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I think that >any< use of the term serverless is inherently misleading, labeling services something like "functions" | Nov 02 17:04 |
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| MinceR | clientless > serverless | Nov 02 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora KDE doesn't get good reviews. | Nov 02 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I feel like it could with minimal effort, but it ships a lot of mostly useless packages by default and doesn't consider non KDE appts that fit in pretty well that work better. | Nov 02 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like Cantata over Amarok. | Nov 02 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They still ship Amarok and kdelibs 4 and it looks terrible on HiDPI. | Nov 02 17:10 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple oh yeah and Microsoft oh oh oh yeah! | Nov 02 17:17 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: IBM | Nov 02 17:18 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: IBM Redhat Microsoft Ubuntu Canonica; | Nov 02 17:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LawrenceHecht/status/1058408010085793792 | Nov 02 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LawrenceHecht: @schestowitz I can't argue that the term "serverless" is good. It is misleading, but it has become normalized | Nov 02 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | Let's fight back against it | Nov 02 17:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | OpenBSD isn't primarily concerned with performance. | Nov 02 18:29 |
| MinceR | good | Nov 02 18:30 |
| MinceR | being primarily concerned with performance leads to atrocious shit, like windows nt | Nov 02 18:30 |
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| cubexyz | openbsd is good... my first choice for pseudo-traditional Unix :) | Nov 02 20:23 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 02 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Nov 02 21:05 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-ClearType-Subpixel-Font | Nov 02 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Enables ClearType Subpixel Font Rendering Thanks To Microsoft - Phoronix | Nov 02 21:57 | |
| MinceR | ew | Nov 02 21:57 |
| MinceR | well, finally you can have fucked up font rendering on fedora | Nov 02 21:57 |
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| cubexyz | I only use non-systemd fedora core 1 | Nov 02 23:07 |
| cubexyz | and it's only me modifying it as far as I can tell | Nov 02 23:07 |
| cubexyz | anyone really unhappy with Ubuntu or Fedora etc will simply make yet another new distro | Nov 02 23:11 |
| oiaohm | at long last prempt_RT is going mainline Linux kernel. | Nov 02 23:12 |
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| MinceR | cubexyz: what if they fuck up the kernel? | Nov 02 23:15 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, then I'd have to put more emphasis on openbsd | Nov 02 23:15 |
| cubexyz | or use old, which I do already | Nov 02 23:16 |
| cubexyz | some of my computers are =>20 years years so I wouldn't put anything modern on them | Nov 02 23:17 |
| cubexyz | s/years/old/ | Nov 02 23:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I say TrueOS is looking pretty good. | Nov 03 01:22 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: free this weekend? | Nov 03 04:03 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/554442.jpg | Nov 03 15:13 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Xwuiu4w.jpg | Nov 03 15:16 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18103141 | Nov 03 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Nov 03 15:20 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18103124 | Nov 03 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Nov 03 15:58 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZjZsI845DPk/maxresdefault.jpg | Nov 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: pillow on a pillow? | Nov 03 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | A "yo dawg, I heard you like pillows" pillow | Nov 03 16:05 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakimakura | Nov 03 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dakimakura - Wikipedia | Nov 03 16:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1058750292186009600 | Nov 03 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz he was also on our FFII lists. | Nov 03 16:09 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thanks for explaining | Nov 03 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Japanese culture... is odd | Nov 03 16:10 |
| MinceR | np | Nov 03 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: let me know if there's a chance of loading images soon. I think tessier wants to retire his network soon to lower expenses | Nov 03 16:12 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/HvDcANm.jpg | Nov 03 16:15 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18103036 | Nov 03 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Nov 03 17:50 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1810304 | Nov 03 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Nov 03 17:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Nov 03 19:01 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: https://jriddell.org/2018/11/02/red-hat-and-kde/?fbclid=IwAR36pNRwv9iJrCZcqOwQ_wdKriuwOJLmLp7iU-1sTmSWygHnkBH0CDCPnKY | Nov 03 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | Red Hat and KDE – Jonathan Riddell's Diary | Nov 03 23:24 | |
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