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| XRevan86 | MinceR: way too accurate | Dec 02 00:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: Yes, asbestos lawsuits used to be all over the TV. | Dec 02 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might still be. I don't know. I don't watch over the air TV anymore. | Dec 02 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | States can have tighter environmental regulations than the federal government in most areas, but many choose not to. | Dec 02 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As you might imagine, though, when large states like California choose to regulate energy efficiency standards, it tends to have a nationwide effect, because so many people live there that there's not going to be a model for California and 14 other states and one for the rest of the country on something like a car. | Dec 02 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump would like to take away California's ability to regulate, but he doesn't have enough votes in the Senate to break a filibuster. | Dec 02 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of extreme legislation that passed the House over the last two years was halted because it couldn't get 60 votes in the Senate. | Dec 02 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the Senate is still good for something. | Dec 02 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The filibuster used to apply to more than legislation, but the Republicans dismantled that to get judges approved with a simple majority vote. | Dec 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The concern was that the Senate was just going to be a 6 year term in the House by the time they were finished with it. | Dec 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The legislative filibuster is harder to kill, however. | Dec 02 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The filibuster on judges and cabinet appointments was only in the Senate rules, which are passed every 2 years and modified occasionally by majority vote in-between. | Dec 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The legislative filibuster is controlled by a federal law known as the Byrd Rule. | Dec 02 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It sets up a process where they can pass a budget bill with 51 votes, but they only get one attempt per subject per term of Congress. | Dec 02 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anyone tries adding non-budget items to a budget bill, any Senator may raise a point of order, and the Senate Parliamentarian must rule on whether it is strictly a budget item. If it isn't, it has to be removed. | Dec 02 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The strange workings of the legislative process have saved us many times over the past two years. | Dec 02 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they've let a few really bad things through anyway, often because a few Democrats peeled off and voted in favor of things like banking deregulation. | Dec 02 00:35 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1810266 | Dec 02 00:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Our system is designed to make it hard for bills to pass without any support from the minority party. | Dec 02 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason the ACA passed in the first place is because the Democrats managed to pick up a lot of Senate seats, but they couldn't hold 60 seats for very long. | Dec 02 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's part of the reason why the Senate has staggered elections. | Dec 02 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With the House, every seat is up every 2 years, which means that, theoretically, one of the parties could be almost completely wiped out if the voters got mad enough at them. | Dec 02 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In practice, gerrymandering makes this unlikely. | Dec 02 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The practical effect of this is that a "wave election" is declared even if less than 10% of the seats change parties. | Dec 02 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The parties have done such a good job at drawing the districts to keep themselves in power that there are only something like 90 truly competitive districts out of 435 in the entire country at any given time. | Dec 02 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're about 8 years in since the last redistricting, so there's been enough drift that their last gerrymander has become slightly less effective than it originally was, but Republicans controlled the majority of the process the last time, so it's hard to get them out of office. They've burrowed in too deeply. That could change after the next census though. | Dec 02 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Democrats managed to pick up 7 state governor's mansions from the Republicans, 7 legislative chambers, and voters and courts passed redistricting reforms that took things out of the control of the legislatures in a few states in the mean time. | Dec 02 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois will lose a district beginning 2022, but I think that they can make sure it's a Republican and then re-draw the remaining districts to pick off another Republican. | Dec 02 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they smashed together four downstate districts into three big ones and then drew another one around Springfield and a few other areas, I think they could get it from 4 Republicans currently to 2 Republicans and 1 Democrat and 1 lost district. | Dec 02 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Assuming they keep the gains they made this year, the state's House delegation would go from 13/18 to 14/17 in favor of the Democrats. | Dec 02 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state is already fairly gerrymandered, but I think they could go further. | Dec 02 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Given all of the funny business, uncompetitive elections, and the lousy candidates the process has given us, the Democrats actually outperformed their showing in the national popular vote for the House. | Dec 02 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won 54% of the seats on 53.3% of the popular vote. | Dec 02 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That leads me to my next point. The districts in the big blue states are just as bad, they just have a hell of a lot of seats. | Dec 02 01:49 |
| scientes | oh gosh | Dec 02 02:38 |
| scientes | your still here | Dec 02 02:38 |
| scientes | please shut up about format democracy | Dec 02 02:39 |
| scientes | ok that was rude | Dec 02 02:39 |
| scientes | but seriously, all those efforts are in vain | Dec 02 02:39 |
| scientes | all those issues don't matter if you are dead | Dec 02 02:39 |
| MinceR | we're not quite dead yet | Dec 02 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, but I would have been a few times without the ACA, or at least in so much medical debt I'd have had to shoot myself to get out from under it. | Dec 02 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of scary that the Republicans have come within 1 vote of ripping the guts out of it. | Dec 02 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's nice to know that this will not be on the table again for a while. The Byrd Rule prevented the Senate from taking the subject up again after McCain died and then Doug Jones won the special Senate election in Alabama, and now the House has flipped. | Dec 02 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just, unsettling, to see how easily this could have all unraveled. | Dec 02 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The goal of the "AHCA/BCRA" was to dismantle most of the system, give the money that was saved to the rich, let the poor die, and give the premium credits to people who are so well off they don't need any help buying insurance to begin with. | Dec 02 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It never had the support of the majority of the public, but a lot of people just heard that Trump liked it and were stupid enough to go "Uh huh!". | Dec 02 02:56 |
| scientes | come on, you are beating a dead horse | Dec 02 02:56 |
| scientes | http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/08/hunger-insurance.html | Dec 02 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: Hunger Insurance | Dec 02 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Food inflation has been a problem here. Many people still get food stamps for now, and "work requirements" (when work might not exist for them) won't be imposed in the immediate future because Republicans want to rush a farm bill on their own terms before they lose the House. | Dec 02 02:58 |
| scientes | as it said in that article: And if you can't, then why don't you go out and take part in the Reverse French Revolution that's underway in the US. That's where revolting peasants do all they can to elect an aristocrat who will swindle them out of their savings even faster and lock up even more of them in the Bastille. And what makes these peasants so revolting is that they are all fat—from eating cake instead of bread, just as Mari | Dec 02 02:59 |
| scientes | e Antoinette had suggested. | Dec 02 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no telling what that might look like. Trump wants to put the farmers on welfare because of what he's done to their crop prices with the trade spat with China. | Dec 02 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're mad because they'd rather be selling crops. | Dec 02 03:00 |
| scientes | that was china's action, not trumps | Dec 02 03:00 |
| scientes | maybe they shouldn't be so dependant on international trade | Dec 02 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, they're sill selling soybeans to China at a loss. | Dec 02 03:00 |
| scientes | maybe that is stupid | Dec 02 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | See, they go through Brazil, get a lower price for them, and then Brazil exports them to China. | Dec 02 03:01 |
| scientes | that is incredibly stupid | Dec 02 03:01 |
| scientes | to sell something to a foreign buyer at a loss | Dec 02 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, this idiot is creating the worst international trade environment that I've ever seen. | Dec 02 03:01 |
| scientes | again, that was China's tariff, not Trumps | Dec 02 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's either that or don't sell them at all. | Dec 02 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Retaliatory tariffs. | Dec 02 03:02 |
| scientes | yes, they should feed them to domestic animals | Dec 02 03:02 |
| scientes | and re-instate the grain silos | Dec 02 03:02 |
| scientes | so we can have some security from bad crops | Dec 02 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh great. Like Europes infamous wine lakes and butter mountains. | Dec 02 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, let's be more like that. | Dec 02 03:03 |
| scientes | you honestly think it is a bad idea to store food from one year to the next? | Dec 02 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, grains store better and at a lower cost than some of the stuff that's being bought up under Europe's price support laws. | Dec 02 03:03 |
| scientes | i never mentioned price support | Dec 02 03:04 |
| scientes | the thing is, to china soybeans are a luxury--they are used to feed animals and grow meat | Dec 02 03:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's supposedly this big scandal that Trump proposed direct food aid to the poor. | Dec 02 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's something we've done before and could do again. | Dec 02 03:05 |
| scientes | its still done | Dec 02 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead, we have this food stamp program where the cards are managed by the big banks and people go to the store and the government pays retail prices. | Dec 02 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a lot of them fill their carts with garbage like Mars bars and Pepsi. | Dec 02 03:06 |
| scientes | i don't think you understand how crazy his idea was | Dec 02 03:06 |
| scientes | like if the idea was what france does: bakeries must be open every day of the week, then i understand that | Dec 02 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the idea was more stuff distributed through food banks. | Dec 02 03:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | A nutritionally complete assortment of food. | Dec 02 03:07 |
| scientes | no it was not | Dec 02 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People were like, "What if they don't like that?". | Dec 02 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus. Like, free food, how horrible. | Dec 02 03:08 |
| scientes | no, the idea was to compete with food banks with a whole new centrally managed beurocracy | Dec 02 03:08 |
| scientes | it was insane | Dec 02 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think my favorite part of the American health care system is the part where someone in an office 1,000 miles away at your health insurance company decides that you don't need what your doctor ordered and that they won't pay for it. | Dec 02 03:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, frivolous little things, like blood tests before cancer treatment can start. | Dec 02 03:34 |
| scientes | I already covered that: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/08/hunger-insurance.html | Dec 02 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: Hunger Insurance | Dec 02 03:35 | |
| scientes | stop beating a dead horse | Dec 02 03:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "10 to 11 percent are collecting food stamps. That would mean 32 million people. I think there are even more people elgible." | Dec 02 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Last I heard, it was over 53 million people on food stamps, but who even bothers to count anymore? | Dec 02 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A reasonable minimum wage would get a lot of them off the system, but it would defeat the dual purpose of corporate welfare and making people dependent on big government programs that don't work very well. | Dec 02 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's unreasonable to expect EBT users to get some cookbooks at the thrift shop and buy ingredients and make dinner when they can toss frozen pizzas and twinkies in the cart. | Dec 02 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I lived in Indiana and on the south side of Chicago and I've seen what EBT customers throw on the belt, and it's like that scene from Breaking Bad where Walter White is disgusted that he told Jesse Pinkman to bring food and he brought "11 bags of funyuns". | Dec 02 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are worried abou the state being paternalistic, but it's clear that nobody raised these folks. | Dec 02 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have no life skills. | Dec 02 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, there's a discussion brewing about what the government is supposed to do for all of the poor people now that there's more than ever, by sheer numbers and percentage of the population. | Dec 02 03:58 |
| scientes | against, you have been beating a dead horse for 10 years | Dec 02 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously, government programs aren't going to expand indefinitely. | Dec 02 03:59 |
| scientes | neither are private ones | Dec 02 03:59 |
| scientes | there is only so much non-renewable resources on this planet | Dec 02 03:59 |
| scientes | and we can't indefinitely import oil | Dec 02 03:59 |
| scientes | by beating a dead horse about government programs you are only part of the high expectation of government that plagues the US | Dec 02 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, there's more people than we can take care of now, and many of them aren't improving the situation. | Dec 02 04:00 |
| scientes | move on, talk about something else | Dec 02 04:00 |
| scientes | "we" | Dec 02 04:00 |
| scientes | who is this "we" | Dec 02 04:00 |
| scientes | please again, you are beating a dead horse | Dec 02 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Taxpayers, I suppose. | Dec 02 04:00 |
| scientes | "I suppose" | Dec 02 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're being dragged into hell by people who take more out of the system than they put in. | Dec 02 04:01 |
| scientes | not really | Dec 02 04:01 |
| scientes | its more about unrealistic expectations, even by those that work | Dec 02 04:01 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hpxgfCD_Y | Dec 02 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You see it everywhere. | Dec 02 04:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Look what happened when the federal government patched the "file and suspend" loophole in Social Security. | Dec 02 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People went nuts. "That's mine! I figured out how to take more than I was entitled to! Gimme!". | Dec 02 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that was just one small leak. | Dec 02 04:02 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], please watch that video before saying anything more | Dec 02 04:03 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you know that russian saying: upset people get to pull the water wagon? | Dec 02 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's frankly revolting that things like that were left unfixed for decades and that the people who figured out how to exploit it before it was closed get to keep drawing on it. | Dec 02 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, 1 in 5 of them are going to live past 100. | Dec 02 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fixed-STIBP-Lands-In-Linux-4.20 | Dec 02 04:06 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Web browsers should obviously opt-in, but I doubt that Mozilla is going to accept that kind of performance drop off. | Dec 02 04:07 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], did you watch the video? | Dec 02 04:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The way I'm reading this, Chromium should be protected by default because it uses SECCOMP and the kernel will automatically turn this on. | Dec 02 04:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not just yet. | Dec 02 04:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Freedom of speech is in decline worldwide. | Dec 02 04:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I think that new European laws have had the most chilling effect I've ever seen. | Dec 02 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But SESTA/FOSTA did a lot of damage too, and that was the US. | Dec 02 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like most laws, it means whatever the government wants it to mean and they can use it to come in and threaten to do just about anything to you. | Dec 02 04:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Places that were bad before merely due to political correctness, like Reddit, are even worse now. | Dec 02 04:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For some reason Reddit launched chatrooms and then banned anything you could possibly talk about in them. | Dec 02 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think someone has a particularly perverse sense of humor. | Dec 02 04:16 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], did you watch the WHOLE video? | Dec 02 04:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIi2QdXjfUs | Dec 02 05:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't really think it's fair to compare health care with food though. I mean, yeah, people need health care to survive, but 95% of what it costs for a life time usually happens in the last year of a person's life. | Dec 02 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we could say that people getting end of life care are hogging the resources that could be spent helping younger people who still have a life to live. | Dec 02 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're talking end of life care. Expensive medication that adds a few months, hospice, that kind of thing. | Dec 02 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I was terminal and they told me that they could give me 6 more months in agony or I could put a bullet in my head and they'd go help 5 people who were in their prime, you know.... I'd take the bullet. | Dec 02 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For some reason, we're not allowed to have a national debate over this. | Dec 02 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean "bullet" is extreme. They can do it painlessly. OD you on some morphine. | Dec 02 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We spend an awful lot of money on healh care in the US, and a lot of it is wasteful, or because people with no hope are forced to live because other people have a religion. | Dec 02 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still only one state where a person who is terminally ill can be prescribed an overdose of pain medication, but it's so hard to use that. Our society has a knee jerk reaction to suicide where you tell someone you're having a shitty day and before you know it, the police are out. | Dec 02 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I went to the hospital because I hadn't slept in four days and needed some sleep medicine and they were asking me if I wanted to kill people and whether I had a gun in the house. | Dec 02 05:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they gave me the boot 12 hours later. The insomnia persisted and I finally found out I could knock myself out on benedryl. | Dec 02 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you can't trust these fuckers to do anything except bill you. | Dec 02 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it's the eighth best hospital in the US or something. | Dec 02 05:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At least when you go to the store and buy food, you get food. | Dec 02 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy at the deli doesn't start asking if there's a gun in your house. | Dec 02 05:55 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: ping? | Dec 02 07:26 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: is there is option in the hypervisor to allow outgoing connections being initiated? tessier used to have to alter some settings to make the IRC bots on the techrights VM capable of connecting. They're bots like TechrightsBot-tr. | Dec 02 07:29 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: I am comparing files at the moment, then I'll assess performance of page-serving. So far, so good... looking very good | Dec 02 07:30 |
| schestowitz | file-wise only diff is the empty directories for months 10 and 11 (wordpress uploads) | Dec 02 07:35 |
| schestowitz | which is what I hoped for. So it's looking very encouraging! | Dec 02 07:36 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: are settings for handling of multiple domain names encapsulated in the nameserver or somewhere else? | Dec 02 08:18 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Yes, I do: На обиженных/сердитых воду возят | Dec 02 11:10 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, there is a statue of that saying in St Petersberg. | Dec 02 12:36 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5hpxgfCD_Y | Dec 02 12:36 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Is that you? | Dec 02 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | > scientes: I already covered that: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2009/08/hunger-insurance.html | Dec 02 12:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: Hunger Insurance | Dec 02 12:40 | |
| XRevan86 | Orlov both here and there | Dec 02 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Didn't know about the statue | Dec 02 12:42 |
| scientes | No, i just like orlov | Dec 02 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: ah | Dec 02 12:48 |
| scientes | i've been fallowing his stuff for like 10 years | Dec 02 12:48 |
| scientes | because he covers the psycology of collapse | Dec 02 12:49 |
| scientes | but its a cute saying | Dec 02 12:50 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: It's one that's hard to translate to English accurately though | Dec 02 13:03 |
| XRevan86 | because "обиженный" is a broader word than anything synonymous I can think of from English | Dec 02 13:04 |
| XRevan86 | something between depressed and offended? | Dec 02 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | holders of a grudge? | Dec 02 13:10 |
| scientes | google translate translated it as offended | Dec 02 13:13 |
| scientes | perhaps "bitter" | Dec 02 13:13 |
| scientes | which has the grudge connotation | Dec 02 13:13 |
| scientes | and of course bitter is easily translated into russian, so you can tell me if that works | Dec 02 13:14 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Hm, "bitter" is more about how a person behaves with others… | Dec 02 13:21 |
| scientes | it can also be how someone feels | Dec 02 13:22 |
| scientes | and it is a taste, so you can make it mean what you will | Dec 02 13:22 |
| XRevan86 | I can say "он меня обижает", which is something like "he bullies me" | Dec 02 13:22 |
| scientes | anyways, upset works fine | Dec 02 13:23 |
| XRevan86 | "I am upset" I would translate as "мне грустно", like "I am saddened" | Dec 02 13:24 |
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| XRevan86 | "обидно, что так вышло" – "unfortunate how it turned out" | Dec 02 13:26 |
| XRevan86 | yet Wiktionary suggests "how it turned out offends me" | Dec 02 13:26 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE#Predicative | Dec 02 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | обидно - Wiktionary | Dec 02 13:27 | |
| XRevan86 | maybe my perception of "upset" and "offence" is scewed %) | Dec 02 13:28 |
| scientes | yeah upset is perfect | Dec 02 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | * skewed | Dec 02 13:28 |
| scientes | thats like having your world turned upside down | Dec 02 13:28 |
| scientes | up set; flip over, world | Dec 02 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | Those who cannot let go are perfect for water transportation | Dec 02 13:30 |
| scientes | yeah that communicates a bit more | Dec 02 13:30 |
| XRevan86 | I think I nailed it :) | Dec 02 13:31 |
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| MinceR | https://apina.biz/34330.jpeg?mode=sfw | Dec 02 15:18 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18102220 | Dec 02 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 02 16:24 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18102071 | Dec 02 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 02 17:12 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18112849 | Dec 02 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 02 17:14 | |
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| cubexyz | FOSS is dangerous.... to Microsoft :) | Dec 02 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | When you use FOSS, you're downloading COMMUNISM | Dec 02 19:54 |
| cubexyz | that's the way Ballmer talked around 2000 | Dec 02 19:55 |
| cubexyz | actually people are just kind of stupid | Dec 02 19:58 |
| cubexyz | generally | Dec 02 19:58 |
| cubexyz | I remember the "stallman is a communist" comments from the late 1990's | Dec 02 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: He cares about people more than about money. Suspicious. | Dec 02 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | Clearly he wants to destroy the American Way. | Dec 02 20:06 |
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| MinceR | he used to, yeah | Dec 02 20:34 |
| MinceR | then he became a red hat shill | Dec 02 20:34 |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/i8yV7sN.jpg | Dec 02 20:55 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/560873.jpg | Dec 02 21:42 |
| scientes | "china is a leader in fighting climate change" | Dec 02 21:49 |
| scientes | I had to stop watching after that | Dec 02 21:50 |
| scientes | there is a limit to how many lies i can listen to | Dec 02 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | Reminds me of all the Nobel Prize for Peace award winners | Dec 02 21:50 |
| scientes | Hitler was nominated | Dec 02 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Interesting | Dec 02 21:51 |
| scientes | i mean they don't even take the world's garbage out of political reasons | Dec 02 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Who outran him? | Dec 02 21:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 02 21:51 |
| scientes | they were recycling it to get raw materials for their economy, it was a win-win for the environment and their economy | Dec 02 21:52 |
| scientes | but they banned it so they could blame pollution on foreigners | Dec 02 21:52 |
| scientes | https://qz.com/803976/adolf-hitler-was-nominated-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-in-a-darkly-ironic-letter-by-erik-gottfrid-christian-brandt/ | Dec 02 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in a darkly ironic letter by Erik Gottfrid Christian Brandt — Quartz | Dec 02 21:52 | |
| XRevan86 | > If it sounds like he had to be kidding—that’s because he was. | Dec 02 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, the great Poe's Law. | Dec 02 21:54 |
| scientes | Elihu Root, who partook in American colonization of the Phillipines got the Nobel Peace Prize | Dec 02 21:54 |
| scientes | > Henry Kissinger | Dec 02 21:56 |
| scientes | WWWWWWTTTTTFFFF | Dec 02 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies#Peace | Dec 02 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nobel Prize controversies - Wikipedia | Dec 02 21:57 | |
| scientes | seriously, Henry Kissinger got the award | Dec 02 21:57 |
| scientes | responsible for massive bombing of Cambodia, and allowing Pol Pot to come to power | Dec 02 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | IIRC, there were talks about giving Trump one for "pacifying" Kim Jong-Un | Dec 02 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | did that get somewhere? %) | Dec 02 22:01 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1811220 | Dec 02 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 02 22:12 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu You would be refering to this bombing. Henry Kissinger tried to talk Nixon out of it. | Dec 02 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Operation Menu - Wikipedia | Dec 02 22:17 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: USA mil and missing correct follow up actions has been on going problem. | Dec 02 22:17 |
| oiaohm | I always like this statement. War is Easy, Peace is Hard | Dec 02 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Its really easy to go war. And then go into the next war and the war after taht. | Dec 02 22:20 |
| oiaohm | It takes a lot more planning to go to war then in fact end in peace. | Dec 02 22:20 |
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| scientes | oiaohm, regarding human organ transplant, I was talking about medical tourists to China | Dec 02 22:23 |
| scientes | oiaohm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiVlIkJcJU&t=5082s | Dec 02 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Falun Gong 'Live' Organ Harvesting (ITNJ Seating) - YouTube | Dec 02 22:23 | |
| scientes | Australia parliament failed to make such tourism illegal after Chinese pressure, so I think the MPs should have their organs harvested | Dec 02 22:25 |
| scientes | at least one kidney from each of them--mercy on their lives | Dec 02 22:25 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: if you look at Australian cases such tourism is is already illegal. | Dec 02 22:39 |
| oiaohm | scientes: its more lack of prosecution | Dec 02 22:39 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: Commonwealth Criminal Code.Getting Organ from a person without their willing consent is a breach of the Australian criminal code to Australian citizen no matter where in earth it happens. | Dec 02 22:43 |
| oiaohm | scientes: the debate was over if there was need to extra laws to allow person going to organ transplant to be prosecuted. The answer is no. Its more the police need more resources to investage. Its a criminal offence to attempt to get a organ without proper consent as well. | Dec 02 22:45 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yeah but ALL organ transplants in China should be illegal, until such a date as China establishes the rule of law | Dec 02 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The rich will always get what they want no matter how many laws they have to break to get it. | Dec 02 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Australian criminal code you should only be able to leave or return from china with organ transplants if you can provide the correct provable consent stuff. | Dec 02 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Yes the organ donor in prision under most cases could not be classed as making willing consent. | Dec 02 22:47 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Illegal transplants have happened inside Australia as well. There is a lack of resources to prosecute theses. | Dec 02 22:48 |
| scientes | but not at the scale of the government-supported system in China | Dec 02 22:48 |
| scientes | and note: China does NOT have the rule of law | Dec 02 22:48 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1811266 | Dec 02 22:48 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: its not only that. There is a lot more to the illegal organ transplant problem. | Dec 02 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Australian government is looking at opt out organ transplant to get more organs correctly sources. | Dec 02 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: "Microsoft Loves Linux".... Today on reddit I saw someone saying they can't get any GNU/Linux distribution to install on the Surface Pro 6 because there's a "file copying error" along the way. | Dec 02 22:51 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is a big problem with illegal organ transplants even the china done ones. Matches that are not close enough to prevent the rejection problems are perform. This results in huge costs when they return to Australia. | Dec 02 22:52 |
| scientes | I would love to see someone manage to get DNA from someone's transplant, use it to establish the person's heirs, and have the heirs sue for murder | Dec 02 22:52 |
| oiaohm | The illegal trade in organs exist because we don't have enough legal organs. | Dec 02 22:53 |
| scientes | that would scare the begeebus out of people who get illegal organs | Dec 02 22:53 |
| scientes | of course, but that is no excuse to kill people | Dec 02 22:53 |
| scientes | *people who get organs from prisoners of counscious that are remove while the person is alive | Dec 02 22:53 |
| scientes | that would probably the most effective way to stop this | Dec 02 22:54 |
| scientes | require everyone with a transplant to submit the DNA of the transplanted organ | Dec 02 22:54 |
| MinceR | EXTERMINATE | Dec 02 22:55 |
| scientes | you could at least determine the ethnicity of the exterminated person | Dec 02 22:57 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.irishcentral.com/news/worlds-first-3d-printed-kidney-transplant-belfast the most comon taken alive transplant is the kidney. These 3d printed ones could go a long way. | Dec 02 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D-printed kidney transplant in Belfast a success | IrishCentral.com | Dec 02 22:57 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: basically this allows 1 kidney donner in theory to result in 100+ transplants. | Dec 02 22:58 |
| MinceR | kidney döner? ew. | Dec 02 22:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/scientists-develop-pigs-for-human-transplants-in-japan-1821555 yes it could be donor ew. | Dec 02 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ndtv.com | Scientists Develop Pigs For Human Transplants In Japan | Dec 02 23:01 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: there are a lot of things planned to fix the organ donation problem. Some have quite a nasty ew factor. | Dec 02 23:02 |
| oiaohm | scientes: the reality here is the prisoners are currently a easy source. But pig organs or other multiplication tech would allow a lot more control over the process. So one day the illegal trade in organs will end because it will be pointless. | Dec 02 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks, I have just passed this on | Dec 03 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/a2bnft/unable_to_install_ubuntu_on_surface_pro_6_because/ | Dec 03 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Unable to install Ubuntu on Surface Pro 6 because of "errno 5 input/output error copying files" : SurfaceLinux | Dec 03 00:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's the other usual problems as well for new hardware. | Dec 03 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Missing wifi drivers/firmware. | Dec 03 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Likely other stuff is missing because Surface products use tons of custom hardware and Microsoft releases no documentation on any of it. | Dec 03 00:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes they do use standard hardware and just change the pciid so that the existing Linux driver doesn't get loaded for it, but those get fixed fast for obvious reasons. | Dec 03 00:45 |
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| tessier | schestowitz: Settings for handling multiple domain names? I don't understand what that means. | Dec 03 04:03 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: there is no active firewall on the hypervisor, you may want to check iptables inside the environment | Dec 03 07:15 |
| schestowitz | tessier: I mean, having the .com domain rewritten as .org | Dec 03 07:24 |
| schestowitz | tessier: how would you go about allowing outbound connection, e.g. to IRC?? This was needed almost every time we moved the VM... | Dec 03 07:25 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: I think almost everything works now, except I will need to update the DBs, which I can do over ssh | Dec 03 08:08 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: is tuxmachines very hard to bootstrap? | Dec 03 08:08 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: it's being difficult yes. finnix locks up trying to boot it (so I can get into the machine to reconfigure it). I think there's some really weird stuff with the VM. | Dec 03 16:48 |
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| cubexyz | ever read any of Dostoyevsky's books XRevan86? | Dec 03 17:17 |
| cubexyz | interesting guy | Dec 03 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah, I've read Crime and Punishment and Idiot | Dec 03 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | after all, that was a school assignment (: | Dec 03 17:21 |
| MinceR | Crime and Punishment and Zombies | Dec 03 17:22 |
| cubexyz | oh I see | Dec 03 17:29 |
| cubexyz | someone wrote a parody of it | Dec 03 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | kaniini: thanks for the update | Dec 03 17:30 |
| MinceR | Leodor Tolstoyevsky - War and Crime | Dec 03 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Do you mean Upyr' of Leo Tolstoy? | Dec 03 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | by "Zombies" | Dec 03 17:42 |
| MinceR | well, iirc there was something titled "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" | Dec 03 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ah | Dec 03 17:43 |
| MinceR | and i have a (probably fake) book cover image with "Leodor Tolstoyevsky - War and Crime" on it somewhere | Dec 03 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | Tolstoyevsky is a valid surname | Dec 03 17:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 03 17:44 |
| cubexyz | some sort of hybridization? | Dec 03 17:44 |
| MinceR | yeah | Dec 03 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | though it is more common as an aphorism | Dec 03 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vampire_(novella) "Tolstoy's writing on the subject of vampires was at least partly influenced by The Vampyre by John William Polidori" – didn't know that. | Dec 03 17:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Vampire (novella) - Wikipedia | Dec 03 17:47 | |
| XRevan86 | > Russian: Упырь, Oupyr | Dec 03 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | When the transliterator is French. | Dec 03 17:48 |
| MinceR | i had no idea he wrote such a thing | Dec 03 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | The two Tolstoy's | Dec 03 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is Alexey Tolstoy known outside of Russia? | Dec 03 17:51 |
| *XRevan86 looks at Works by Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy and sees not one of his more famous rip-offs^W works – Buratino | Dec 03 17:53 | |
| XRevan86 | or the Hyperboloid of Engineer Garin (didn't read) | Dec 03 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | (probably should) | Dec 03 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | > Do you mean Upyr' of Leo Tolstoy? | Dec 03 17:55 |
| XRevan86 | Did I write that -__-? | Dec 03 17:55 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: not to me, but i'm not a literature guru | Dec 03 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: neither am I, although I am ashamed for writing "Leo" automatically | Dec 03 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | I now know why it didn't list those other works | Dec 03 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | those are made by another Alexey Tolstoy :D | Dec 03 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | there are two of those | Dec 03 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | that I didn't know | Dec 03 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | that explains the timeline inconsistency, I thought I was getting mad | Dec 03 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | * I was going mad | Dec 03 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | Alexey Konstantinovich Tolstoy also wrote a lot of novels about tsars, Ivan Grozny in particular | Dec 03 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | I've read Knyaz' Serebrenny | Dec 03 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You can kind of see how I payed attention :) | Dec 03 18:03 |
| cubexyz | I had to read "Wuthering Heights" in school | Dec 03 18:05 |
| cubexyz | managed to forget most of it | Dec 03 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | > Aleksey Konstantinovich was a second cousin of Leo Tolstoy | Dec 03 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | > Aleksey Nikolayevich was distantly related to Leo Tolstoy on his father's side | Dec 03 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | And they're all related. Of course they are. | Dec 03 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: You may be intrested to know that I had Solzhenitsyn in school :) | Dec 03 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | I don't remember liking his work | Dec 03 18:11 |
| cubexyz | a critic of the west I see | Dec 03 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Was he? | Dec 03 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | His central focus was Russia | Dec 03 18:15 |
| cubexyz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn#Criticism_of_the_West | Dec 03 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - Wikipedia | Dec 03 18:15 | |
| cubexyz | assuming I have the right Solzhenitsyn | Dec 03 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yes, it is he. | Dec 03 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Barely criticism though | Dec 03 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | > He condemned both the United States government and American society for its "hasty" capitulation in the Vietnam War. | Dec 03 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: He hated the Soviet regime and allied to it so much that any lack of action against its termination was not acceptable to him, I suppose. | Dec 03 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not exactly criticism of the West policies except for being too much softies | Dec 03 18:19 |
| cubexyz | yes | Dec 03 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn#%22Men_have_forgotten_God%22 finally I see the truth | Dec 03 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - Wikipedia | Dec 03 18:20 | |
| XRevan86 | https://s0.rbk.ru/v6_top_pics/resized/1180xH/media/img/8/74/755152793919748.jpg I worry not. | Dec 03 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is finally on the right track. | Dec 03 18:21 |
| MinceR | to annihilation? | Dec 03 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: To G-d | Dec 03 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: well, tes | Dec 03 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | * yes | Dec 03 18:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 03 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://realty.newsru.com/article/12nov2018/mozaika oh hey | Dec 03 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realty.newsru.com | ? ??? ????? "????????" ????? ???? ? ????, ???? ? ???? ???? (??) | Dec 03 18:25 | |
| XRevan86 | A plagiarism of Cecilia Giménez | Dec 03 18:26 |
| cubexyz | truth is stranger than fiction | Dec 03 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://niann.ru/_data/objects/0053/1859/icon.jpg and then they wiped it out | Dec 03 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | The logical conclusion to any restoration effort. | Dec 03 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | Works as an allegory for perestroyka %). | Dec 03 18:35 |
| cubexyz | art gallleries are starting to use plexiglas more | Dec 03 18:36 |
| cubexyz | it would be crazy not to | Dec 03 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: This mosaic was on a building | Dec 03 18:37 |
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| MinceR | (video) (audio) https://files.catbox.moe/az0ql3.webm | Dec 03 20:41 |
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| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/dzk38z.jpg | Dec 03 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Cyclists have a point | Dec 03 20:57 |
| MinceR | "everyone else has to accommodate you if you travel on 2 wheels"? | Dec 03 20:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They don't waste resources as much as the automobiles. | Dec 03 21:00 |
| MinceR | that depends | Dec 03 21:00 |
| MinceR | when they cause accidents, they waste more | Dec 03 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | one the resources being space %) | Dec 03 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Automobiles cause accidents in a way bigger capacity. | Dec 03 21:02 |
| XRevan86 | Every automobile owner would rather if there were less automobiles around. | Dec 03 21:02 |
| MinceR | automobile drivers are more likely to obey lights, signs and pavement marks | Dec 03 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | because the consequences for them not doing so is far more serious | Dec 03 21:03 |
| XRevan86 | (and I don't mean the patrol) | Dec 03 21:04 |
| XRevan86 | * are far | Dec 03 21:04 |
| XRevan86 | * of them | Dec 03 21:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 03 21:10 |
| MinceR | see above | Dec 03 21:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And eventually someone with an automobile screws up | Dec 03 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | rather frequently, really | Dec 03 21:19 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18111361 | Dec 03 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 03 23:13 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm still using GNOME on Xorg, mainly because of XWayland performance problems. | Dec 04 00:06 |
| MinceR | my condolences | Dec 04 00:07 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: wonder how many of those performance issues will go away with the fix in gnome to allow real vsync. | Dec 04 00:48 |
| oiaohm | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/e9e4b2b72ef63890c4225dc641da38482b2b13b5 << yes before this stuff gnome had been faking it in. | Dec 04 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.gnome.org | renderer-native: Add hardware presentation timing (e9e4b2b7) · Commits · GNOME / mutter · GitLab | Dec 04 00:49 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | DaemonFC: wonder how many of those performance issues will go away with the fix in gnome to allow real vsync. | Dec 04 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That won't affect Steam and Wine too much. | Dec 04 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suspect GNOME on Xorg will be an option for at least a few more years. | Dec 04 02:41 |
| tessier | schestowitz_log: Having .com rewritten as .org would be in your web config | Dec 04 03:12 |
| tessier | schestowitz_log: And it should not have been necessary to do anything special to allow out to IRC. There was one particular VM host for some reason that would not allow outbound connections. I never did figure out why. | Dec 04 03:13 |
| tessier | But techrights tended to land on that one. Then I would have to manually move it. It was a quirk specific to our setup. Might even be gone now that everything has been rebooted and reinstalled etc. as far as VM hosts go. | Dec 04 03:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-building-chromium-powered-web-browser-windows-10?amp | Dec 04 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft is building a Chromium-powered web browser that will replace Edge on Windows 10 | Windows Central | Dec 04 05:18 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | No more Edge or EdgeHTML. | Dec 04 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This basically means that Blink and Gecko will be the only major rendering engines left. | Dec 04 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: Really who says Microsoft will not muck up the blink engine in their own browser. | Dec 04 05:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: you always have to remember the EEE before getting too wishful. | Dec 04 05:57 |
| oiaohm | I had forgot Opera is using Blink engine today. | Dec 04 06:03 |
| oiaohm | So there will not be a browser left in general usage that can be called 100 percent closed source. | Dec 04 06:04 |
| tessier | DaemonFC[m]: Whatever happened to IE? | Dec 04 06:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | IE is still in Windows 10 for legacy reasons. | Dec 04 07:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft will remove it at some point. It's been frozen in place other than security updates since 2015. | Dec 04 07:05 |
| tessier | Wow. I never thought I'd see the end of IE. | Dec 04 07:16 |
| tessier | Good riddance. | Dec 04 07:16 |
| MinceR | 04 034144 <+DaemonFC[m]> I suspect GNOME on Xorg will be an option for at least a few more years. | Dec 04 07:47 |
| MinceR | "Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call. | Dec 04 07:47 |
| MinceR | " | Dec 04 07:47 |
| MinceR | 04 061826 <+DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-building-chromium-powered-web-browser-windows-10?amp | Dec 04 07:48 |
| MinceR | wow, internet edgesplorer survived for so long | Dec 04 07:48 |
| MinceR | also, gecko is practically already dead | Dec 04 07:49 |
| r_schestowitz | tessier: so if the domains all point to the nameserver of kaniini, it should then be handled at the VM's level, provided the nameserver points to it? | Dec 04 07:50 |
| r_schestowitz | tessier: kaniini struggles in booting the VM of tuxmachines, I think it would the simpler one to switch over first as it's only one domain and less complexity | Dec 04 08:01 |
| tessier | schestowitz_log: Yes | Dec 04 08:34 |
| r_schestowitz | excellent, so I think we're close to done with that one VM, except syncing the DBs, which should be simple | Dec 04 08:36 |
| r_schestowitz | tessier: [16:48] <kaniini> schestowitz: it's being difficult yes. finnix locks up trying to boot it (so I can get into the machine to reconfigure it). I think there's some really weird stuff with the VM. | Dec 04 08:40 |
| r_schestowitz | (this is about tuxmachines | Dec 04 08:41 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: World’s first RISC-V-based FPGA SoC runs Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118111 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d90eed60-38d4-49f9-afb9-885e54bb1eeb] | Dec 04 14:07 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118110 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77ede828-bcf6-4d8b-be0f-fab738bbbe38] | Dec 04 14:09 | |
| MinceR | https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/opinion/hungary-orban-media-suppression.html | Dec 04 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | No News Is Bad News for Hungary - The New York Times | Dec 04 14:15 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118113 [https://pleroma.site/objects/70f79793-6272-45f7-aa96-dbfb042d40ca] | Dec 04 14:22 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 4/12/2018: LibrePCB 0.1.0, SQLite 3.26.0, PhysX Code http://techrights.org/2018/12/04/physx-code/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/5dce3cf5-e518-4459-be80-34b21a92156d] | Dec 04 14:38 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Report: #LibreOffice Bug Hunting Session in Taiwan http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118116 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8f2b40a7-20e5-4d6c-b8fa-1248405cadb1] | Dec 04 15:59 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Nutty: GUI Network Monitoring And Information Tool For Ubuntu, Linux Mint And elementary OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118118 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b1426364-db02-427e-83c5-e3f6f9b37ae9] | Dec 04 16:09 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #graphics : Vulkan, Radeon, Mesa, Khronos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118119 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6434a564-ac5e-40d8-a3c7-d1751726fae0] | Dec 04 16:15 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Godhood, Stellaris, Vulkan Extensions, Wrongworld http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118120 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44f915bf-8e37-41fd-856c-3f701f760934] | Dec 04 16:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: Buzzwords, OpenShift Container, and Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118121 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2cf5a845-06b5-420f-a304-1fe1003b06e1] | Dec 04 16:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118122 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0de57c8-a432-4431-a680-38b6f1231056] | Dec 04 16:24 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There's really no sense in Microsoft continuing to develop EdgeHTML. | Dec 04 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their goal was compatibility with Blink and they already just use a Webview on mobile anyway. | Dec 04 19:04 |
| XRevan86 | I'm glad there's one less proprietary web renderer, but saddened that there will be even more Chromium | Dec 04 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The user agent has turned into a complete mess. | Dec 04 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like Mosaic, like Netscape, like Internet Explorer, like Firefox, like KHTML, like Webkit, Safari, Chrome, Edge. | Dec 04 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And new pages are still going up attempting to make sense of everything. | Dec 04 19:09 |
| XRevan86 | The Firefox's one is the simplest one of the modern ones | Dec 04 19:09 |
| MinceR | there's really no sense in anything microsoft, apple or ibm do anymore | Dec 04 19:09 |
| MinceR | yet here we are. | Dec 04 19:09 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kali Linux for the Gemini PDA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118124 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9f2d80b4-b006-4586-8f6b-17e3a73f6c50] | Dec 04 19:47 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 4.20 I/O Scheduler Benchmarks On NVMe SSD Storage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118123 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c552d7ad-36dd-47e5-b2d7-15320e78a453] | Dec 04 20:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118125 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61eef0c4-655e-4a1b-920a-f81213868bc4] | Dec 04 20:05 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Raspberry Pi-based 'Link', Epic Games Store, Chef, Gerty http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118127 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7139871a-c2cb-4b15-b95a-dbf26989bbcc] | Dec 04 20:13 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/0FuiyQz | Dec 04 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Just a reminder that Tumblr also deleted posts about net neutrality. Time to leave this one for good - Album on Imgur | Dec 04 20:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: The New Kubernetes, Updates and More on Quora http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118128 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9b1d06d0-8268-4afa-bf2a-ccf0fdf21e0e] | Dec 04 21:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Openwashing, Entryism and Failure http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118129 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5cfb9bea-5a67-47a6-8dbe-374587a341c5] | Dec 04 21:18 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/cuB6OrS.jpg | Dec 04 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tumblr said they're going to delete all the porn. | Dec 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think their ad revenues will collapse after that. There's already a Tumblr with no porn. It's called Pinterest. | Dec 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's where old people get together to share cake recipes. | Dec 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, regarding the Tumblr cp problem, that's probably part of the reason why they're getting rid of the porn. | Dec 04 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They whack one account that's posting it, another pops up. | Dec 04 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government loves cp because it gives them a reason to come in and demand total control of the internet and tell ISPs to monitor their customers and implement blocking that will end up mainly used for copyright infringement, which they are much more interested in because there's money in it. | Dec 04 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Once the infrastructure is there, Hollywood and proprietary software customers can crack down, but even monitoring the internet and filtering infringement won't be enough. | Dec 04 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's where Microsoft and Windows Defender comes in. | Dec 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *proprietary software companies | Dec 04 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows 10 is invasive and creepy now. It even watches and warns about installing Firefox. How long until you can't even install it, or you go to install Libreoffice and it says no, you need to buy Office 365? | Dec 04 22:03 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/nfBThQI.jpg | Dec 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody from DoJ is watching Microsoft anymore and I'm sure that putting spyware in Windows 10 was part of the deal that made Justice go away. | Dec 04 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Aside from being fucking crap in general, Windows 10 is spyware and adware and nagware. Why do people tolerate it? | Dec 04 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ads in the mail program now. Lol Who the hell is using a mail program with ads? | Dec 04 22:20 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Dec 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thunderbird with Lightning or the Evolution program can do way more than Windows Mail without any ads. | Dec 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft's goal here seems obvious. The people who use IMAP to access their mail bypass all the adds on Microsoft's websites, so just push them all down into the client, because fuck it. No other email clients? The next step is when people get pissed and stomp off to another email suite, Microsoft abandons the standard IMAP and makes their mail only work with Windows Mail if you want a desktop client. | Dec 04 22:23 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/5JVazIN.jpg | Dec 04 22:38 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/uSqUiAo.jpg | Dec 04 23:00 |
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| cubexyz | nothing about M$ surprises me anymore | Dec 05 02:26 |
| r_schestowitz | same here | Dec 05 03:28 |
| r_schestowitz | let's hope they mess up yet more | Dec 05 03:28 |
| r_schestowitz | alienating people | Dec 05 03:28 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Python Coding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118132 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1e5ac703-5dac-48ef-b0f6-a6c0d377b56a] | Dec 05 04:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Libcamera Aims to Make Embedded Cameras Easier http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118133 [https://pleroma.site/objects/416e7550-b825-4de2-93cf-8de5bf0477ac] | Dec 05 05:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: It's Looking Like The EXT4 Corruption Issue On Linux 4.19 Is Caused By BLK-MQ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118134 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d5a158b5-97a2-4154-9f74-b5791cadb75b] | Dec 05 05:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Intel, NVIDIA and AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118135 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5340bb0d-2610-42fc-813c-3307ead678b0] | Dec 05 05:10 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/561065.jpg | Dec 05 06:42 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtlymXWXQAAdMz3.jpg:large | Dec 05 06:43 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DragonFlyBSD Updates Its Intel DRM/KMS Driver Port For Kaby, Coffee & Whiskey Lake http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118137 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb0f9a0f-8fa8-4b00-9b03-81eb79c82295] | Dec 05 06:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Bypass of Disabled System Functions, Ubuntu for Bitcoin Safety and FUD Over NPM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118138 [https://pleroma.site/objects/68b21f8b-bcfb-4078-9a1d-c09f0cc4fccd] | Dec 05 07:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: RISC-V: Western Digital, Freedom and Codasip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118139 [https://pleroma.site/objects/552d31a4-be13-4ef5-a256-a9ae44b2e2d6] | Dec 05 07:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118140 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b0f1e405-dfd0-4dc0-8063-08e997e27c58] | Dec 05 07:09 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CrossOver 18.1.0 and Humble Team17 Bundle for GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118141 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e2bdd69-b9d1-4723-b1b4-f2a49ea4b8ef] | Dec 05 07:12 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The @LinuxFoundation : Hyperledger, Linux Plumbers Conference, and LF Networking (LFN) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118142 [https://pleroma.site/objects/25cb674c-0c03-4207-9581-d445e5c95373] | Dec 05 07:15 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 5/12/2018: #EpicGames Store, #CrossOver 18.1.0, Important #Kubernetes Patch http://techrights.org/2018/12/05/important-kubernetes-patch/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/29043adc-8b3d-4a3e-a447-03c667e53a5f] | Dec 05 07:23 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/AcHIKTo.mp4 | Dec 05 07:30 |
| r_schestowitz | mpeg. | Dec 05 08:11 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4F9tQWKOU | Dec 05 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom, but the sounds are text to speech (DOWNLOAD) - YouTube | Dec 05 08:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 5 reasons to give Linux for the holidays http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118144 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8c251acd-65f6-47fa-924c-9942ec30c709] | Dec 05 09:19 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bring some color to your Linux terminal with lolcat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118145 [https://pleroma.site/objects/83f90ebf-08c9-4680-8d57-a23aa273bf8b] | Dec 05 09:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118146 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6dd79c4-969b-4e45-aa00-c366fca6dd06] | Dec 05 09:30 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Beholder 2, Lost in Sky: Violent Seed, Garden Variety Body Horror, Damsel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118149 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37359fe3-5e4f-4090-8f20-3a3335ef24bb] | Dec 05 11:28 | |
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| r_schestowitz | kaniini: I think that the bot lost the IRC connection, but not sure... | Dec 05 11:41 |
| kaniini | viera is up | Dec 05 11:41 |
| r_schestowitz | in the -social channel it does not echo pleroma posts | Dec 05 11:42 |
| r_schestowitz | BTW, do you want me to invite more people to join pleroma.site now that registrations are open? | Dec 05 11:43 |
| r_schestowitz | I doubt they know how to set up their own instance | Dec 05 11:43 |
| r_schestowitz | g2g now, wife calling... bbl (5 hours) | Dec 05 11:44 |
| kaniini | r_schestowitz: looks like vultr's IPv6 is broken, i'll move viera to my own infrastructure this evening | Dec 05 11:58 |
| MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/0071ab261225b1bfd11274f66d16c5dd/tumblr_inline_pj71r5QUIL1rintgm_1280.png | Dec 05 13:00 |
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| MinceR | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/polkit/polkit/issues/74 | Dec 05 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | unprivileged users with UID > INT_MAX can successfully execute any systemctl command (#74) · Issues · polkit / polkit · GitLab | Dec 05 13:51 | |
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| r_schestowitz | thanks bundle, kaniini | Dec 05 16:01 |
| r_schestowitz | heh, MINDS is down, or not functioning | Dec 05 16:07 |
| r_schestowitz | which is rare | Dec 05 16:07 |
| r_schestowitz | just came back after 10 mins at least | Dec 05 16:07 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCsD3ZGzMgE | Dec 05 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Josephus Problem - Numberphile - YouTube | Dec 05 16:55 | |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ywxgaWGKsZJZoWRRKGSBgjJz > | Dec 05 18:27 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, that makes it much better. | Dec 05 18:27 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Like Hillary Clinton said, "At this point, really, what difference does it make?". | Dec 05 18:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | PolicyKit is a dependency of systemd, so there aren't going to be any distributions that use systemd that are not affected. | Dec 05 18:30 |
| cubexyz | time to check this link again: | Dec 05 18:35 |
| cubexyz | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Alternatives_to_systemd | Dec 05 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Alternatives to systemd - Without Systemd | Dec 05 18:35 | |
| cubexyz | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd | Dec 05 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Linux distributions without systemd - Without Systemd | Dec 05 18:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | What init system do Android and Chrome OS use now? | Dec 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chrome OS was using Upstart. | Dec 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interesting that Devuan has FTP download links. | Dec 05 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was some talk about Firefox dropping FTP support a while back. | Dec 05 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although it could potentially be supported with an add-on if you want it back. | Dec 05 22:10 |
| MinceR | afaik android uses its own weird thing | Dec 05 22:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | ublock-origin uses wasm now. | Dec 05 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, this was a major win for performance. | Dec 05 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But only the Firefox version currently uses it. The Chrome extension still uses Javascript because the way Chrome allows wasm in extensions wasn't as secure according to gorhill. | Dec 05 22:44 |
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| MinceR | https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/612518/250-pages-of-internal-facebook-files-were-just-dumped-online-here-are-the-6-key/ | Dec 05 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | 250 pages of internal Facebook files were just dumped online—here are the 6 key takeaways - MIT Technology Review | Dec 05 23:12 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/XfIJKNM.jpg | Dec 05 23:26 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/myywByu.jpg | Dec 05 23:40 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18110834 | Dec 05 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 05 23:52 | |
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| r_schestowitz | kaniini: does the bot have a chance of working for the other machine/network? | Dec 06 05:46 |
| kaniini | im trying to figure out why its breaking | Dec 06 06:03 |
| kaniini | oh | Dec 06 06:03 |
| kaniini | oh | Dec 06 06:03 |
| kaniini | i just figured it out | Dec 06 06:03 |
| kaniini | the cert expired | Dec 06 06:03 |
| kaniini | bloody LE | Dec 06 06:03 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/BVOK3nI.jpg | Dec 06 10:17 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: It Looks Like We Won't See An Open-Source NVIDIA Vulkan Driver This Year (Nouveau) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118191 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6111731e-91f4-487b-9fdc-a16989657403] | Dec 06 10:42 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 5 Scanning Tools for Linux Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118192 #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/d06982c8-840d-48f1-9bad-20f66d3ca571] | Dec 06 11:02 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 06 11:03 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: hi | Dec 06 11:05 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: hi | Dec 06 11:05 |
| sebsebseb | XRevan86: you like Sony ? | Dec 06 11:06 |
| XRevan86 | sebsebseb: no | Dec 06 11:06 |
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| MinceR | (long) https://imgur.com/gallery/BII16TY | Dec 06 12:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The “Real” Meaning Of Christmas - Album on Imgur | Dec 06 12:03 | |
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| sebsebseb | XRevan86: well I can get naother sony phone for sailifsh with a free ps4 etc | Dec 06 12:46 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Windows Back Doors Cost Dearly, Adobe Flash is a Mess, and Microsoft Deals With Defects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118201 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9b566df9-d749-4119-a66c-dfcd48237540] | Dec 06 16:02 | |
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| cubexyz | Sony won't supply parts for repair | Dec 06 16:16 |
| cubexyz | far from ideal | Dec 06 16:16 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1811305 | Dec 06 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 16:51 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Which icon pack was it that makes the icon for xkill a coat hanger? | Dec 06 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw a screenshot of that and laughed so hard. | Dec 06 17:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 06 17:54 |
| MinceR | dunno | Dec 06 17:54 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18112943 | Dec 06 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 18:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1811086 | Dec 06 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 20:09 | |
| cubexyz | ok, today's funny observation... | Dec 06 20:30 |
| cubexyz | a math program I downloaded keeps segfaulting | Dec 06 20:31 |
| cubexyz | written by a pretty smart person so I'm wondering what the heck I'm doing wrong | Dec 06 20:31 |
| cubexyz | then I realize... | Dec 06 20:31 |
| cubexyz | this program is assuming I have at least 8 gigs of ram | Dec 06 20:31 |
| cubexyz | also assumes at least 4 threads | Dec 06 20:32 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 06 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://74.ru/text/gorod/65705761 today's | Dec 06 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-74.ru | ????? ? ????????: ?? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? | Dec 06 20:34 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18112922 | Dec 06 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 21:16 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18112848 | Dec 06 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 21:40 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18112833 | Dec 06 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 22:24 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18110617 | Dec 06 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 06 23:05 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, I am so mad at American companies acquiescing to Chinese power and censoring their web-stes | Dec 07 00:31 |
| scientes | as they are served over https they don't need to censor anything | Dec 07 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The Party can check if stuff is blocked and then block by IP. | Dec 07 00:34 |
| scientes | but they would have to take down the whole web-stie | Dec 07 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | So I don't quite follow about HTTPS | Dec 07 00:35 |
| scientes | https means you can't block by url | Dec 07 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Which they can with no hesitation, no? | Dec 07 00:35 |
| scientes | no, like china faced backlash on banning github for example | Dec 07 00:36 |
| scientes | it would be a huge hit to their economy, and force even more people to use illegal VPNS by necessity | Dec 07 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | Wasn't Google blocked there for years? | Dec 07 00:36 |
| scientes | it still is | Dec 07 00:36 |
| scientes | the vast majority of the internet is blocked in China, including Wikipedia | Dec 07 00:36 |
| scientes | (because Wikipedia wouldn't back down on censorship) | Dec 07 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, there | Dec 07 00:36 |
| scientes | but if China wants to isolate themselves from the rest of the world, let them | Dec 07 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Capitalists aren't famous for their principles %) | Dec 07 00:37 |
| scientes | it only illegitamilizes the CCP | Dec 07 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | Even if it's a crappy market, it's still a market to profit from. | Dec 07 00:38 |
| scientes | tech companies are hardly capitalist (you aren't suppose to say that) | Dec 07 00:38 |
| scientes | it has been called "privacy capitalism", but it is hardly capitalism | Dec 07 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They still operate for profit | Dec 07 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | regardless of how they plan to obtain it | Dec 07 00:41 |
| scientes | then any corrupt communist leader is capitalist | Dec 07 00:41 |
| scientes | https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.html | Dec 07 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | China’s Leaders Confront an Unlikely Foe: Ardent Young Communists - The New York Times | Dec 07 00:42 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: profit as in money | Dec 07 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: A corrupt leader is more about obtaining goods through a social status | Dec 07 00:44 |
| scientes | they prefer money if they can get it: look at the Panama papers | Dec 07 00:44 |
| scientes | where was that No2 pollution? | Dec 07 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | there are ways of converting social status into money | Dec 07 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | now that's capitalist, kind of %) | Dec 07 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | I'll go to sleep now | Dec 07 00:47 |
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| scientes | yeah Google sees Hong Kong on Taiwan as seperate countries, as is correct | Dec 07 02:58 |
| scientes | Macau too seperate country | Dec 07 02:59 |
| scientes | I mean Vatican City can be its own soverignity, why can't hong kong? | Dec 07 03:05 |
| scientes | maybe if PRC had responsibilities to its citizens it would think differntly | Dec 07 03:08 |
| scientes | and i saw some people on YouTube say that there isn't flag of Hong Kong, but it had one at the Hong Kong hand-over ceremony | Dec 07 03:27 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, https://www.epa.gov/superfund/search-superfund-sites-where-you-live#map | Dec 07 06:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epa.gov | Search for Superfund Sites Where You Live | Superfund | US EPA | Dec 07 06:34 | |
| scientes | I'm sure you would appreciate if your government was that open about environmental problems | Dec 07 06:34 |
| scientes | with a long history of industrialism the US obviously have environmental problems, but our government is highly open about what the problems are, and what has been done to ameliorate those problems (although EPA budget was cut by 75% under current regime...) | Dec 07 06:35 |
| scientes | like China hides the problems with underground coal that is on fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI2wkwYIU8c | Dec 07 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China's Centuries Old Underground Coal Fires | China Uncensored - YouTube | Dec 07 06:36 | |
| scientes | sometimes the government can be a little too paranoid about health risks, after a long history of problems, like regarding asbestos, and warnings on basically everything in California that it could cause cancer | Dec 07 06:38 |
| scientes | I'm not sure if the US's policy of generally being very transparent is always the best, but it is how we tend to do things in government. The UK government claims copyright over map data it needs for tax purposes for example, which necessitated the creation of OpenStreetMap, while US map data was always completely free for all uses (USGS) which allowed the creation of Garmin, MapQuest, and then Google Maps | Dec 07 06:41 |
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| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/apmpe0M_460swp.webp | Dec 07 18:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://xkcd.com/2082 | Dec 07 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Mercator Projection | Dec 07 18:19 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon's driver went through an intersection, put the van in reverse and illegally backed up through the intersection, made an illegal left turn down a one way street, and then delivered my package to the wrong house. Amazon ordered me a new item since I couldn't find it and reported the driver to the depot. | Dec 07 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The Edge on Chromium thing just shows how irrelevant Microsoft has become. | Dec 07 21:53 |
| MinceR | they still own uefi and the vfat patent | Dec 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have so few people using EdgeHTML that it's not even worth paying a staff to maintain it. | Dec 07 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The vfat patent is expired. | Dec 07 21:54 |
| MinceR | when? | Dec 07 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For a few years now. | Dec 07 21:54 |
| MinceR | and they're still a member of the linux-destroying foundation | Dec 07 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The vfat long file name appeared in Windows 95. | Dec 07 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | exfat will be a problem for a while longer, but even the patents on that will expire in another 7 years or so. | Dec 07 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was included in Windows Vista. | Dec 07 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't really see a need to extend FAT again. The limits of exfat are quite huge. | Dec 07 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Apparently, Microsoft pledged 60,000 patents to the Open Innovation Network, but the ones they are extorting people with like exfat weren't included. | Dec 07 21:56 |
| MinceR | ah, so they own exfat patents | Dec 07 21:59 |
| MinceR | which are tied into sdxc | Dec 07 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. FAT32 limits are too small for modern usage. | Dec 07 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's fine for uefi because the efiboot partition doesn't have to be very big, and neither do the files on it. | Dec 07 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 4 GB file size isn't really an issue. | Dec 07 22:13 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, lol RE mercador projection | Dec 07 22:15 |
| scientes | more like Russians for the Mercador projection ;) | Dec 07 22:15 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: nani? | Dec 07 22:16 |
| scientes | you posted this https://xkcd.com/2082/ | Dec 07 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: tak | Dec 07 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But why do you spell Mercator with a d? | Dec 07 22:18 |
| scientes | cause I am wrong | Dec 07 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | heh | Dec 07 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | "more like Russians for the Mercator projection ;)" – what does that mean? o_0 | Dec 07 22:19 |
| scientes | it makes their country look really big | Dec 07 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | bigger, yes | Dec 07 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Russian_Federation_%28orthographic_projection%29_-_only_Crimea_disputed.svg still pretty darn big %) | Dec 07 22:22 |
| scientes | yeah but not bigger than US + China | Dec 07 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | or than the whole darn Africa | Dec 07 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Greenland is way more bloated though | Dec 07 22:25 |
| scientes | thats why google maps only goes up to 80 degrees | Dec 07 22:25 |
| scientes | even if it uses mercator projection | Dec 07 22:25 |
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| scientes | Oh, so boron mining is essential for the manufacture of fiberglass | Dec 07 22:59 |
| MinceR | interesting that the uefi cultists were whining about the limits of the MBR partitioning scheme, but the limits of FAT are A-OK :> | Dec 08 00:09 |
| scientes | yeah I only use MBR because of the IIRC there is a 2TB limit or something like that | Dec 08 00:10 |
| scientes | *only use UEFI | Dec 08 00:10 |
| scientes | MBR is so insanely simple | Dec 08 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The limit is on the MBR partition table | Dec 08 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: There's no technical reason why GPT cannot be used with the MBR boot mechanism | Dec 08 00:11 |
| scientes | I got burned by the Windows XP 137GB over-run | Dec 08 00:11 |
| scientes | thats when i switched to Linux | Dec 08 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | and GRUB allows one to do so | Dec 08 00:12 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, check out the low tech oil refining in Nigeria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAgw_Zyznx0 | Dec 08 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Battle Raging In Nigeria Over Control Of Oil | VICE on HBO - YouTube | Dec 08 00:14 | |
| scientes | fire+oil+little technology | Dec 08 00:15 |
| MinceR | there's also no technical reason why there couldn't be an alternative partitioning scheme used after the end of the MBR | Dec 08 00:16 |
| MinceR | and it doesn't have to be m$/intel cancer | Dec 08 00:16 |
| scientes | indeed | Dec 08 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | GPT does its job fine though | Dec 08 00:17 |
| scientes | although intel is actually quite pro-Linux, with the exception of UEFI | Dec 08 00:17 |
| MinceR | in other words, intel is actually quite pro-Linux, with the exception of being anti-Linux | Dec 08 00:18 |
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| scientes | their stuff always works with mainline, which is far better than the ARM world | Dec 08 00:19 |
| scientes | their platform almost always "just works" | Dec 08 00:20 |
| scientes | they should get some credit | Dec 08 00:20 |
| scientes | plus contribution to user-space, like the new wireless daemon | Dec 08 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | ah, yes, iwd | Dec 08 00:20 |
| scientes | I mean, why can't they smuggle out the crude oil directly, and sell that on the international market, instead of having to do such crude (haha) refining | Dec 08 00:23 |
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| MinceR | they gave their name for uefi, they came up with intel boot guard to lock out alternative boot firmware, they're platinum members of the linux-destroying foundation | Dec 08 00:25 |
| MinceR | they'll end legacy boot support by 2020 | Dec 08 00:25 |
| scientes | pouring gasoline on the ground https://youtu.be/vAgw_Zyznx0?t=444 | Dec 08 00:27 |
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| scientes | this would be a million dollar spill cleanup in the US | Dec 08 00:27 |
| scientes | "we cannot set it on fire because it is residential area" | Dec 08 00:29 |
| scientes | lol | Dec 08 00:29 |
| scientes | *million if it didn't flow into river, far woorse in river | Dec 08 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | ARM is a really whacky architecture because it's not actually one architecture. | Dec 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | can't be as wacky as x86 | Dec 08 01:08 |
| MinceR | or x86_64 | Dec 08 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot of vendor-specific stuff there and so it's basically different on every system. | Dec 08 01:09 |
| scientes | the architecture is quite standard | Dec 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus, it's not like "Secure Boot" is exclusive to x86. | Dec 08 01:09 |
| scientes | its the platform that varies | Dec 08 01:09 |
| MinceR | what vendor-specific instructions are there? | Dec 08 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anything with Windows on ARM is going to have that and there's no way to turn it off. | Dec 08 01:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I meant the extra chipsets you tend to find on some of those boards. | Dec 08 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of the drivers have been either closed source blob only or reverse engineered and only partially functional. | Dec 08 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Other than Poulsbo, I can't recall the last time Intel did something like that. | Dec 08 01:12 |
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| MinceR | ARM is an ISA (instruction set architecture) | Dec 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | those chipsets are not part of it | Dec 08 01:14 |
| MinceR | well, intel also did a winblows-only Atom SoC | Dec 08 01:14 |
| scientes | also XBoX | Dec 08 01:15 |
| scientes | (to which Linux support was reverse engineered) | Dec 08 01:15 |
| scientes | XRevan86, is the sewage pollution of Baikal comong from the east side? https://youtu.be/_OBUVipjUzk?t=167 | Dec 08 01:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The xbox wasn't really intended to be used as a PC, and the chip wasn't _that_ different from their desktop ones. | Dec 08 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was somewhere between a Pentium 3 and a Pentium 3-based Celeron. | Dec 08 01:19 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18102713 | Dec 08 02:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: According to a site I read, MS Edge (with EdgeHTML, which is just the Windows version at this point), only represents about 2% of web traffic, and Internet Explorer with Trident is down to 3%. | Dec 08 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That puts both browsers together at less than half the users of Firefox and Edge with EdgeHTML somewhere around the number of users that Opera has. | Dec 08 02:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is pathetic considering that almost every consumer grade piece of junk has Windows on it, Edge is the default browser, and Microsoft has used in--operating system advertisements, warning screens when installing other browsers, and even resetting Edge as the default browser when the user has selected other software. | Dec 08 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft booted Chrome out of the Windows Store previously, because it was using the "Desktop Bridge" to install the Win32 app through the store. | Dec 08 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft said their reason for throwing it out was that you had to use EdgeHTML if you were a browser in the Windows Store. | Dec 08 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Windows 10 in "S Mode" can't run any apps that are not from the store, which basically bans other browsers on a desktop OS. Something that even Apple hasn't done. | Dec 08 02:31 |
| MinceR | actually they have | Dec 08 02:36 |
| MinceR | they do the exact same thing on hypeOS | Dec 08 02:36 |
| MinceR | if your browser isn't just a safari frontend and downloads and runs javascript, it's not getting into the crApp Store | Dec 08 02:36 |
| MinceR | they also like to ban competitors to their other shitty crApps | Dec 08 02:37 |
| scientes | nobody cares about chShit | Dec 08 02:59 |
| scientes | *crShit | Dec 08 02:59 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: would it help if a newer image of tuxmachine was sent? What would, in your opinion, help run the VM or east the pain? | Dec 08 09:55 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Don't really know. | Dec 08 12:47 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, pretty soon there won't be much of a reason to still use Firefox anyway. | Dec 08 19:48 |
| MinceR | for me, there already isn' | Dec 08 19:48 |
| MinceR | t | Dec 08 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The whole WebExtensions thing is a bigger mess than ever. | Dec 08 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you read the list of security problems fixed, WebExtensions has already had to be patched hundreds of times. | Dec 08 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it was supposed to be this huge security upgrade vs. XUL extensions. | Dec 08 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ugh, Star Grill closed down. | Dec 08 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Was it the Hipsters or was it that they didn't bribe the alderman and got the health department to inspect them? | Dec 08 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We may never know. | Dec 08 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The local supermarket didn't pay up and got closed by the health department for two weeks. | Dec 08 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's always something that they *can* write you up for. And once you miss the bribe to the corrupt city officials, they will. | Dec 08 19:52 |
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| cubexyz | so which browser is better? | Dec 08 20:45 |
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| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Emacs | Dec 08 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: There's also Wine Internet Explorer, that's pretty rad | Dec 08 20:49 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: WebExtensions is minorally better than XUL extensions in security. | Dec 08 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I didn't comment on WebExt's | Dec 08 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If you want to avoid the one true web engine our lord and savior Blink/V8 (or WebKit), but want full HTML5, then Firefox and forks is the only option left. | Dec 08 20:55 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: WebExtensions is minorally better than XUL extensions in security. | Dec 08 20:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: WebExtensions is at least correctly documented on what you should be doing. | Dec 08 20:58 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XPCOM/Guide big thing that was wrong with XUL and XPCOM allowed you to presume a lot of things were single threaded. | Dec 08 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | XPCOM guide | MDN | Dec 08 21:00 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Wine Internet Explorer is a custom hacked gecko engine that is in time going to have to be rebuilt. | Dec 08 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I know, I was just kidding | Dec 08 21:01 |
| oiaohm | It a there be dragons location. | Dec 08 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | I tried hard to think of a bad web browser advice that doesn't endorse a bad actor | Dec 08 21:02 |
| XRevan86 | Like "use Safari" | Dec 08 21:02 |
| cubexyz | well there's amaya, but I haven't touched it in years | Dec 08 21:03 |
| cubexyz | seems it hasn't been updated since 2012 so probably not a great choice | Dec 08 21:04 |
| oiaohm | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg this is quite a interesting read. | Dec 08 21:06 |
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| cubexyz | one of my local retailers is selling Lenovo Tiny Desktops with Linux | Dec 08 21:08 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: `https://otter-browser.org/ without looking would have never thought of this one. | Dec 08 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-otter-browser.org | Otter Browser | Dec 08 21:08 | |
| cubexyz | something called LeTOS v2 | Dec 08 21:08 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that one of the thin client Linux operation systems out there. | Dec 08 21:10 |
| oiaohm | Tiny desktops fancy name for thin clients. | Dec 08 21:11 |
| cubexyz | I see... doesn't sound too good | Dec 08 21:11 |
| oiaohm | When they are LeTOS only. | Dec 08 21:11 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkcentre/m-series-tiny/ThinkCentre-M920q/p/11TC1MTM92Q In the tiny series there is a hell of a lot of veration. | Dec 08 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ThinkCentre M920 Tiny | Compact 8th Gen Intel PC | Lenovo Australia | Dec 08 21:13 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: 65W AC/DC adaptor tiny desktop with this. You will not have a very powerful cpu. | Dec 08 21:14 |
| cubexyz | the one on sale has a Intel Celeron N3010 | Dec 08 21:15 |
| oiaohm | https://www.cpubenchmark.net/low_end_cpus.html N3010 is classed as a low end chip it was made in 2016 | Dec 08 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cpubenchmark.net | PassMark CPU Benchmarks - Low End CPUs | Dec 08 21:20 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: so heavy web browsering it going to be lacking cpu power. | Dec 08 21:21 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: due to compact case you will be stick with intel graphics so no option to add decent graphics card to help it. | Dec 08 21:22 |
| cubexyz | ifixit likes the Hp Elitebook 1050 | Dec 08 21:23 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: thin client yes, Point of sale like being light desktop yes. General desktop no. Gaming Mostly no. Blender/3d work absolutely no. | Dec 08 21:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Hp Elitebook 1050 are not too bad. | Dec 08 21:24 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: have not put linux on them. | Dec 08 21:24 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: have had to clean them after people have done stupid warnatiy voiding things to them. | Dec 08 21:25 |
| cubexyz | btw I found an excellent site for fixing old laserprinters | Dec 08 21:25 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: like HP for some reason does not cover dropping laptop off boat into sea. | Dec 08 21:25 |
| cubexyz | learning more about them.. so getting the old Hp Laserjet 5N is on the cards | Dec 08 21:26 |
| cubexyz | fixing it up | Dec 08 21:26 |
| cubexyz | still using NOS cartridges which is a bit problematic | Dec 08 21:27 |
| oiaohm | I will say HP printers do go eventionally. You can rework them quite a few times but sooner or latter they will go a little out of shape and have printer jammers. | Dec 08 21:27 |
| cubexyz | http://www.brokenprinter.com | Dec 08 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brokenprinter.com | Broken Printer | Dec 08 21:27 | |
| oiaohm | But you are talking 20 to 30 rebuilds. | Dec 08 21:27 |
| oiaohm | That is the lazers. | Dec 08 21:27 |
| oiaohm | HP Inkjets say hell sledge hammer. | Dec 08 21:28 |
| cubexyz | they have 100K of them | Dec 08 21:28 |
| cubexyz | that's a lot of printers | Dec 08 21:28 |
| cubexyz | fuser kits, scanner assembly replacement, rollers, cartridges... | Dec 08 21:29 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: if you are reworking a HP printer and something seams stuck normally you have missed undoing something. If you force it you stuff the frame then have problems latter on. | Dec 08 21:30 |
| oiaohm | I would put hp printer at the simplest to repair. | Dec 08 21:31 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Otter Browser, Falkon and qutebrowser are the most developed browsers on QWebEngine (Blink, yes). | Dec 08 21:38 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: making a html render engine is not simple or cheap. | Dec 08 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Yes, it's a mess. | Dec 08 21:40 |
| oiaohm | Like wine in theory should have coded it own to match up with internet explorers triddent. Instead decide on hack of gecko. | Dec 08 21:41 |
| oiaohm | Because resources it was not possible. | Dec 08 21:41 |
| oiaohm | Really it interesting to see Microsoft going blink is it that they can no longer afford to develop a browser. | Dec 08 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I've heard speculation that they want to EE Electron | Dec 08 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, with Intel you have to worry that there will be major hardwre downgrades later because of hardware security problems. | Dec 08 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So a computer that you thought was fast enough could become 20 or 30% slower than it was when you bought it. | Dec 08 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | make it use the Windows's rendering engine, reducing bloat by making it just one browser running instead of over 9000 | Dec 08 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | but to achieve compatibility with Electron they need Blink/V8 | Dec 08 21:44 |
| XRevan86 | 100% compatibility that is | Dec 08 21:45 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines_(HTML_support) Really Bink/V8 is not 100 percent compatible with Electron from Mozilla. | Dec 08 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comparison of browser engines (HTML support) - Wikipedia | Dec 08 21:46 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I still think it interesting there are sections of the specification none of the common browsers have implemented yet. | Dec 08 21:47 |
| oiaohm | Edge and trident have been getting a long away behind. | Dec 08 21:48 |
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| scientes | https://i.redd.it/ziq607lnr4101.jpg | Dec 08 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | EdgeHTML was kind of pointless anyway. | Dec 08 23:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said their goal was to be compatible with Blink, and if they weren't, they considered that a bug. | Dec 08 23:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So adopting Blink to begin with instead of wasting all of their money on EdgeHTML would have made more sense from the start. | Dec 08 23:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That just shows how long it's taking Microsoft to move past the Ballmer/Gates legacy of treating open source software like a bin of contaminated drug needles. | Dec 08 23:25 |
| cubexyz | ha | Dec 08 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I found out what was behind Tumblr's porn ban. | Dec 08 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple removed their app from the store, saying it wsn't allowed because it could display porn if the user went to a Tumblr page with porn on it. | Dec 08 23:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Unless I'm mistaken, Safari can display porn if you go to a porn site, so Safari should definitely be removed from the iPhone. | Dec 08 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Dec 08 23:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Another example of "If you can kill with a chainsaw, shouldn't they be against the law?". | Dec 08 23:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 08 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's actually kind of frightening, that Apple's reach extends so far that they can get a website to ban something under threat of not being viewable through the Crap Store. | Dec 08 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm guessing that there's probably no way to use Tor on an iPhone. | Dec 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They made Private Internet Access remove MACE from their app because it could block ads. | Dec 08 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is fucking stupid, because you can get MACE back by pinging one of their DNS servers somehow, including putting the address in a web browser. | Dec 08 23:52 |
| MinceR | yes, but hypePhone users are too stupid to do that :> | Dec 08 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, but I saw Max-P recommending it to someone who asked. | Dec 08 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You probably only need to to ping the DNS server once each time the phone is turned on. | Dec 08 23:59 |
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