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XRevan86MinceR: And the rise of JavaScript outside of web browsers in particularFeb 03 00:15
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XRevan86would probably go to the former groupFeb 03 00:20
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schestowitzImproved  sites' backup regime; RAID is enough only for those who rely on D-R under the assumption that datacentre itself is safe.Feb 03 05:08
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XRevan86> https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/03/politics/trump-nicolas-maduro-military-force/index.htmlFeb 03 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump says use of military force in Venezuela is still on the table - CNNPoliticsFeb 03 19:07
XRevan86America First?Feb 03 19:07
XRevan86Venezuela SecondFeb 03 19:07
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-04Feb 03 19:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #kde week in Usability & Productivity, part 56 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120245 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9ce7ebbe-04fa-492e-9713-a3c52ff50bf7]Feb 03 19:18
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scientesXRevan86, yeah the announcement to re-privitize (i.e. steal) the oil in Venezwela kinda ticked me offFeb 03 20:29
XRevan86Each day it seems less and less that the US has Venezuelan people's interests at heart.Feb 03 20:30
scientesXRevan86, you said that law and order still hasn't been restored, but what about during the USSR (I know you wern't alive...)?Feb 03 20:30
XRevan86scientes: Law was different back thenFeb 03 20:31
scientesLike I read that there was never any tax code, only taxes by decreeFeb 03 20:31
scientesand I also read Gulag ArchipelagoFeb 03 20:32
scientesand while the USA has huge issues (mostly unrelated to the rule of law, and actually some DUE to people'e unrealistic expectation from law enforcement), it seems like the US has and has had a government seen as more legitimate by the people it rulesFeb 03 20:33
XRevan86A momentFeb 03 20:34
*XRevan86 figures out what is taxes by degreeFeb 03 20:34
scienteslike there was a small resistance to the implementation of income tax in the US (16th constitutional amendment) in the 40s, but that is about itFeb 03 20:35
XRevan86USSR definitely had an income taxFeb 03 20:35
scientesthe US constitution bans taxes by decreeFeb 03 20:36
scientesits called a bill of attainder---a law that targets one institutionFeb 03 20:36
scientesattainerFeb 03 20:37
scientesXRevan86, the income tax was also a issue of states vs federal government in the US, but that has largely been moot since the large expansion of the federal government during the civil was (1860s), and then more moot with the creation of large federal welfare systems in the 1940sFeb 03 20:38
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MinceR03 213043 <+XRevan86> Each day it seems less and less that the US has Venezuelan people's interests at heart.Feb 03 20:40
MinceRi thought it didn't seem like that for agesFeb 03 20:40
MinceRhowever, the maduro government doesn't have that at heart eitherFeb 03 20:40
scientesthey said some nice thingsFeb 03 20:41
scienteswell I am mostly talking about ChavezFeb 03 20:41
XRevan86MinceR: It seems to me like Maduro is largely incompetent.Feb 03 20:42
XRevan86But I don't know enough to say that with confidence.Feb 03 20:43
XRevan86It seems like they're screwed either way.Feb 03 20:43
MinceRthey should have noticed their own incompetence and got out of the wayFeb 03 20:44
XRevan86MinceR: The worst thing about incompetent people is their incompetence to see their incompetence.Feb 03 20:44
MinceRinstead of the dogged insistence on keeping power and finding scapegoatsFeb 03 20:44
XRevan86scientes: The question of legitimacy is an interesting one, especially in Russia.Feb 03 20:46
XRevan86scientes: It depends a lot on what part of the society you ask.Feb 03 20:47
MinceRno, people's opinion depends on that :>Feb 03 20:47
XRevan86scientes: The USSR, especially in Stalin's time, screwed a lot of people, but it also brought up from the dirt a lot of people.Feb 03 20:49
XRevan86it wasn't peachy before the USSR, and it isn't nowFeb 03 20:49
XRevan86so there wasn't and isn't a concensus on whether it was good or badFeb 03 20:50
XRevan86even in state propaganda they managed to both say that USSR was literally Satan and in the next minute praise StalinFeb 03 20:51
*XRevan86 focuses on the Russian Federation / RSFSR here.Feb 03 20:52
XRevan86in other regions the situation can be differentFeb 03 20:53
XRevan86In Ukraine in particular, because Stalin managed to screw almost everyone at the same time there big time.Feb 03 20:54
XRevan86and because it had a bigger perspective, some parts of Ukraine were even in the Austro-HungaryFeb 03 20:55
XRevan86But I digress. The main point is that in the Empire 90% of the population were villagers, farmers, and a very primitive kind, for most of them [sic] the times have changed for the better.Feb 03 21:01
MinceRthe way i see it, authoritarian regimes can't be legitimateFeb 03 21:02
MinceReither they're established democratically or notFeb 03 21:02
XRevan86So why did the people put up with that? Because from their perspective it was an improvement.Feb 03 21:02
MinceRif they're established democratically then they compromise the basis on which they were builtFeb 03 21:02
MinceRif not, then they had no authority of the people to begin withFeb 03 21:02
XRevan86And the previous regime was a literal absolute monarchy.Feb 03 21:02
MinceRwhich means it wasn't legitimate eitherFeb 03 21:03
MinceRthey were both crimes against human rightsFeb 03 21:03
XRevan86But of course the people hadn't a concept of human rightsFeb 03 21:04
MinceRthat doesn't mean there were no human rights, thoughFeb 03 21:05
MinceRignorance is no excuse for oppressionFeb 03 21:06
XRevan86MinceR: Human rights are not something that comes from the heavensFeb 03 21:07
XRevan86It's an idea, a darn good one at that, but it still has to be taught, learnt and fought for.Feb 03 21:08
XRevan86otherwise there will just be another Stalin who won't have human rights in mind despite showing up on "Communism 101"Feb 03 21:10
MinceRindeed they are notFeb 03 21:10
XRevan86and will just rule like every tsar did before himFeb 03 21:10
MinceRthey come from nature :)Feb 03 21:10
MinceRcommunism 101 won't teach you shit about human rightsFeb 03 21:11
XRevan86Communism <- Socialism <- Social Justice <- Human RightsFeb 03 21:12
XRevan86Except that it's a theoretical foundation for the whole ideology.Feb 03 21:12
MinceRthen they've failed pretty hard at itFeb 03 21:13
MinceRfor example, there's no provision for privacyFeb 03 21:13
XRevan86MinceR: Human rights were on the Communist agenda in the Emperial times.Feb 03 21:14
MinceRyou can see what the communists did with human rightsFeb 03 21:14
MinceRevery single timeFeb 03 21:15
XRevan86And like Putin claims he delivered on high teacher salaries now, Stalin claimed he delivered on human rights.Feb 03 21:15
MinceRso communism is great at producing claims?Feb 03 21:16
XRevan86Well, then Putin is the biggest communistFeb 03 21:16
XRevan86though probably TrumpFeb 03 21:16
MinceR:>Feb 03 21:17
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XRevan86MinceR: Politicians are in generalFeb 03 21:17
XRevan86no political ideology is safeFeb 03 21:18
MinceRand without politicians you can't have a stateFeb 03 21:18
MinceRso it would be better to abolish the stateFeb 03 21:19
XRevan86MinceR: In the same manner I can pose Augusto Pinochet as an example of neoliberalism or capitalism or something ruining everythingFeb 03 21:20
MinceRexcept there has never been an example of anything good coming from communismFeb 03 21:20
MinceRneither can there be, considering that it ignores privacy, IT security, economic calculation and free enterpriseFeb 03 21:21
XRevan86not that there have been much, and most of them were stalinistFeb 03 21:21
MinceRwhich should tell you somethingFeb 03 21:21
XRevan86For instance, Mao pretty much by his own admission was explicitly a StalinistFeb 03 21:22
MinceRanother issue with communism is that it's based on the labor theory of value, which has been known to be bunk for agesFeb 03 21:22
XRevan86and when he saw USSR going sideways, tensions aroseFeb 03 21:22
*XRevan86 refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_splitFeb 03 21:23
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XRevan86MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_value#Theorizing_the_value_of_labour-products you mean, this?Feb 03 21:28
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MinceRMarx's oneFeb 03 21:29
MinceRwhich he spends most of Capital recapitulatingFeb 03 21:30
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18090337Feb 03 21:40
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-05Feb 03 21:48
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scientesXRevan86, soviet goods use to be smuggled FROM north korea to chinaFeb 03 22:09
scienteslike appliancesFeb 03 22:10
MinceRlolFeb 03 22:10
scientesMinceR, the USSR and the US have many similarities that are glossed overFeb 03 22:10
XRevan86Reminds me that lots of people are quite fond of the imported goods from GDRFeb 03 22:11
XRevan86just today I've observed two kinds of slides, GDR and USSR ones, GDR's ones aged betterFeb 03 22:11
XRevan86scientes: Like the one-party system? :DFeb 03 22:11
scienteseven more substansial ones, like a foundation of society being the worship of technologyFeb 03 22:12
XRevan86s/slides/reversal films/Feb 03 22:13
XRevan86scientes: That's way too abstract for me to analyseFeb 03 22:13
scientesand central planningFeb 03 22:15
scientescentrally planned uglificationFeb 03 22:15
MinceR03 231111 <+XRevan86> Reminds me that lots of people are quite fond of the imported goods from GDRFeb 03 22:15
XRevan86The USSR sure was founded on technology in a sense that it looked forward to adopting new progressive stuff in contrast with the traditionalist views of the monarchy. And even Stalin did kill that off completely.Feb 03 22:15
MinceRi haven't heard of that one eitherFeb 03 22:15
XRevan86* didn't kill that offFeb 03 22:15
XRevan86> and central planningFeb 03 22:17
XRevan86scientes: What?Feb 03 22:17
XRevan86If the federal government does a thing, it isn't central planning, it just means this is not a confederation.Feb 03 22:18
scientesUS's suburbia is incredibly uglyFeb 03 22:20
scientesyou can go 100 miles and can't tell anything apartFeb 03 22:20
XRevan86I've heard it's economically unsustainable and car-demanding.Feb 03 22:20
scientespreciselyFeb 03 22:21
XRevan86and I'm sick of looking at it in filmsFeb 03 22:21
scientesyou haven't had to live around itFeb 03 22:21
XRevan86all I have to say about suburbiaFeb 03 22:21
MinceRat least it's not matchbox-sized "apartments" in uninsulated concrete boxesFeb 03 22:21
scientesboth suburban residential and commercialFeb 03 22:21
scientesMinceR, but the chinese stuff can actually be used without carsFeb 03 22:21
XRevan86MinceR: Ironically, those aren't just ugly but also dead-cheapFeb 03 22:21
MinceRwhich chinese stuff?Feb 03 22:21
MinceRthe one that topples over before anyone can move in?Feb 03 22:22
MinceRor the one that nobody will ever live in?Feb 03 22:22
XRevan86so there's at least one superior element to ugly apartment buildings %)Feb 03 22:22
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcyYyyaPz84Feb 03 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GHOST CITY - Inside the Chinese Housing Bubble - YouTubeFeb 03 22:22
scientesI guess the chinese stuff is like the soviet stuffFeb 03 22:22
scientesbut XRevan86 has a point---it is cheap, so it is actually maintainable unlike suburbiaFeb 03 22:23
MinceRi'd rather have a suburban house and a car, thenFeb 03 22:23
XRevan86scientes: What is Chinese stuff exactly?Feb 03 22:23
MinceRat least those are suitable for human habitationFeb 03 22:23
scientesexcept the car will be stationaryFeb 03 22:23
scientesXRevan86, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcyYyyaPz84Feb 03 22:23
MinceRmine isn'tFeb 03 22:23
XRevan86scientes: Where to look? :)Feb 03 22:23
scientesjust to about 8 minutes inFeb 03 22:24
XRevan86scientes: Um, big buildings?Feb 03 22:25
XRevan86I'm sure those aren't unique to China or RussiaFeb 03 22:25
scientesits a ghost cityFeb 03 22:25
XRevan86scientes: No, USSR didn't have those, at least not in this mannerFeb 03 22:25
scienteshere they don't build out of concrete that wayFeb 03 22:25
XRevan86The kind of building MinceR has in mind is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KhrushchyovkaFeb 03 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Khrushchyovka - WikipediaFeb 03 22:27
XRevan86But they weren't overbuilt.Feb 03 22:27
scientesunderbuiltFeb 03 22:27
MinceRcould be taller, 10 or rarely more storiesFeb 03 22:27
XRevan86scientes: Indeed.Feb 03 22:27
XRevan86The idea is to make as many and as quickly as possible to house everyone.Feb 03 22:28
MinceRfor certain values of "house"Feb 03 22:28
XRevan86Because after the war (and other factors), housing became a very big problemFeb 03 22:28
MinceRyou wouldn't find any of the commie fatcats living in any of those dumps they called housesFeb 03 22:28
MinceRthough i guess communism helps with one aspect of these human storage boxesFeb 03 22:29
scientesjapan also has too much housing, because of the low birthrateFeb 03 22:29
MinceRstarvation slims them down and they can fit more easily through the dinky doorletsFeb 03 22:29
MinceRand corridorletsFeb 03 22:29
XRevan86MinceR: I saw footage of a house where one commie fatcat livedFeb 03 22:29
XRevan86what a dumpFeb 03 22:29
MinceRover here, they took over the villas on Andrassy street for the most partFeb 03 22:30
XRevan86definitely not an absolute ruleFeb 03 22:30
MinceRprobably also on RosehillFeb 03 22:30
MinceRequality, my assFeb 03 22:30
XRevan86Anyway, that's how those houses came about.Feb 03 22:30
MinceR"houses"Feb 03 22:30
XRevan86Amazingly, they are still around, even though they were designed to last only a few decadesFeb 03 22:30
MinceRthey were designed?Feb 03 22:31
XRevan86which is both commendable and regrettable at the same timeFeb 03 22:31
XRevan86MinceR: It takes effort to make something *efficiently* shitFeb 03 22:32
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panelh%C3%A1zFeb 03 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Panelház - WikipediaFeb 03 22:32
cubexyzis that the same as Brutalist Architecture?Feb 03 22:32
MinceRa subset thereofFeb 03 22:32
MinceRand yeah, brutalism is a blight on the landFeb 03 22:32
MinceRinexplicably, visible concrete is still something of a fadFeb 03 22:33
XRevan86cubexyz: That implies that there was any intention to have a styleFeb 03 22:33
MinceRpeople have no taste, i guessFeb 03 22:33
MinceRthe stadium the nazis built in Felcsut have large exposed concrete elements that looked like they were dipped in sewage even when they were newFeb 03 22:33
cubexyzXRevan86, generally speaking function over form... with ugly stuff exposedFeb 03 22:33
cubexyzmore of an anti-style reallyFeb 03 22:34
MinceRthe function being that of an eyesoreFeb 03 22:34
XRevan86At least with Khrushchyovkas (not looking at later buildings), design was intentionally not a concern in the slightest.Feb 03 22:34
XRevan86Reduction of communal apartments was.Feb 03 22:35
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_apartment#The_fall_of_the_communal_apartmentFeb 03 22:35
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cubexyzHabitat 67 would be the Canadian exampleFeb 03 22:36
MinceRmaybe they should have focused on good living conditions rather than reproducing like bacteria.Feb 03 22:36
MinceRstill should.Feb 03 22:36
XRevan86With later buildings… Overton's window, I guess.Feb 03 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: Russia was and still is underpopulated, BTWFeb 03 22:37
MinceRprobably depends on which part you considerFeb 03 22:37
cubexyzRussia's population density would be interesting to knowFeb 03 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: Housing wasn't a problem of just MoscowFeb 03 22:38
XRevan86cubexyz: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Population_Density_as_of_2017.pngFeb 03 22:39
cubexyzbit of a clump near China I seeFeb 03 22:41
cubexyzand on the eastern coastFeb 03 22:41
XRevan86Later buildings did improve considerably though, but not on the aeshetic side.Feb 03 22:44
XRevan86* aestheticFeb 03 22:45
XRevan86and then at some point became worse in some ways, because workers started stealing shitFeb 03 22:45
MinceRyou can see that nobody lives in lake baikal ;)Feb 03 22:46
XRevan86slanted walls, etc.Feb 03 22:46
XRevan86MinceR: https://youtu.be/Zv5lIQPRCPY?t=496Feb 03 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Летучий корабль | Советский мультфильм для детей - YouTubeFeb 03 22:48
MinceR:)Feb 03 22:50
XRevan86No need for subtitles, as the cartoon has almost no coherent plot. Still quite lovely (:Feb 03 23:04
MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-09Feb 03 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wally's Stealth Drone - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-09 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 03 23:25
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schestowitzTomorrow is year of the Boar.Feb 04 08:51
schestowitzOIN OIN oinksFeb 04 08:51
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-11Feb 04 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wally Teaches Success - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-11 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 04 15:33
MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-12Feb 04 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asking Successful People For Advice - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-12 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 04 15:46
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18090316Feb 04 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 04 21:15
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MinceRhttps://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019464/4chan-anon-anime-haruhi-math-mysteryFeb 04 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | An anonymous 4chan post could help solve a 25-year-old math mystery - The VergeFeb 04 22:14
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oiaohmhttps://mikekaganski.wordpress.com/2019/02/04/microsoft-deprecates-msi/ hmmFeb 05 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mikekaganski.wordpress.com | Microsoft deprecates MSI – Mike Kaganski's blogFeb 05 05:33
DaemonFC[m]Moved. No internet out here yet.Feb 05 06:14
DaemonFC[m]Just my phone.Feb 05 06:15
DaemonFC[m]My cats are having a good time watching the local wildlife.Feb 05 06:15
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: watching or planning to kill local wildlife.Feb 05 06:18
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18090217Feb 05 08:02
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XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rascals_(Star_Trek%3A_The_Next_Generation) this episodeFeb 05 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rascals (Star Trek: The Next Generation) - WikipediaFeb 05 21:50
XRevan86I just started it, and I already cannot bear it. Don't they realise Picard has a very distinct accent?Feb 05 21:50
XRevan86so does the kid, but in a different wayFeb 05 21:52
XRevan86It feels like even I would be able to do the impersonation better -_-Feb 05 21:52
XRevan86"I am still Jean-Luc Peeee-caaaad"Feb 05 21:53
XRevan86Guinan and Keiko don't seem as fake, so yeah, they should not have gone with Picard. Bad idea, very annoying.Feb 05 21:59
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Bw1CVlc.jpgFeb 05 22:03
XRevan86After listening to the science in the episode, I conclude that the teleporter is literally magic.Feb 05 22:07
*XRevan86 moves ST:TNG from "Sci-Fi" to "Fantasy"Feb 05 22:07
XRevan86and they said Farscape is unscientific…Feb 05 22:08
MinceR:>Feb 05 22:10
MinceRStargate > *Feb 05 22:11
XRevan86ST:TNG and Stargate do share one epicly unscientific thing in common: everyone speaks English. Except Klingon, those are special.Feb 05 22:12
XRevan86(but fluent, when they wish to)Feb 05 22:12
XRevan861. the Enterprise visits a planet in an uncharted starsystemFeb 05 22:14
XRevan862. everyone looks like they're from California and speaks English, but their noses are funnyFeb 05 22:14
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/AOjOviUFeb 05 22:28
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MinceRit's explained in Stargate SG-1 though :>Feb 05 22:28
XRevan86MinceR: Was it?Feb 05 22:29
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MinceRat least i seem to remember something about travelling into the past and teaching the jaffa to speak englishFeb 05 22:34
XRevan86MinceR: Didn't they… already know English? %)Feb 05 22:35
MinceRnot back then, i thinkFeb 05 22:35
XRevan86Besides, even that won't explain why would it become the universal languageFeb 05 22:36
XRevan86and not change even a little through the centuriesFeb 05 22:36
XRevan86> I'm loading the adult patterns into the bufferFeb 05 22:38
XRevan86BTW, not only is that literal magicFeb 05 22:38
XRevan86it's also an immortality recipeFeb 05 22:39
MinceR:)Feb 05 22:39
XRevan86they that literally fix ageing by tweaking the transporterFeb 05 22:39
XRevan86and no side effects were even establishedFeb 05 22:39
MinceRdo they have an episode about immortality being undesirable? :>Feb 05 22:40
XRevan86MinceR: Well, ageing certainly isn't desirableFeb 05 22:41
XRevan86MinceR: I wouldn't be surprised if they have oneFeb 05 22:41
XRevan86but I don't remember seeing one yet :)Feb 05 22:41
XRevan86And in ST:Discovery the soul is immortal, because space fungusFeb 05 22:43
MinceRdidn't ST have Universal Translators anyway?Feb 05 22:44
MinceRwhat with the whole Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra thingFeb 05 22:44
XRevan86MinceR: It's just an applianceFeb 05 22:44
XRevan86I don't think it can babelfishFeb 05 22:45
MinceRyou can tune a piano but you can't tuna fishFeb 05 22:45
XRevan86actually I cannot do eitherFeb 05 22:46
XRevan86> Wikipedia: Leonard NimoyFeb 05 22:47
XRevan86> Books:Feb 05 22:47
XRevan861. I Am Not Spock – ohFeb 05 22:47
XRevan862. I Am Spock – oh?Feb 05 22:47
XRevan86I'm confused %)Feb 05 22:47
MinceRturns out SG is rather inconsistent about languagesFeb 05 22:48
MinceRconsidering that SG-1 needed a linguist to deal with Ancient language (with great difficulty), but in SGA they speak to people/things speaking only Ancient with ease, without any linguists aroundFeb 05 22:48
XRevan86MinceR: That's an understatement :)Feb 05 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: You see, Ancient is Modern English, but only when the plot requires it to beFeb 05 22:50
MinceR:>Feb 05 22:50
XRevan86otherwise it's a mix of Latin, Greek and whateverFeb 05 22:50
XRevan86… which sounds like EnglishFeb 05 22:50
MinceRi thought it was just plain Canis LatinicusFeb 05 22:50
MinceR(that is, english + latin word endings, with a few well-known latin words thrown in)Feb 05 22:50
MinceR(which would of course mean that the Ancients are speaking High Gothic :> )Feb 05 22:51
XRevan86and that they are Indo-European either wayFeb 05 22:51
MinceRTwo aliens are sitting in a pub. One of them turns to the other and says, ‘plububulaBBHAJGGIUI@@#GJKG?’ The other one replies, ‘Dude, you are seriously shitfaced.’Feb 05 22:55
XRevan86> at-at-hashFeb 05 22:55
XRevan86Or is "@@#" an emoticon for their face :)Feb 05 22:56
MinceRit's only a jokeFeb 05 22:56
XRevan86@@#Feb 05 22:56
MinceRbut could stand for sounds that aren't found in indo-european languagesFeb 05 22:56
MinceR(like ! for some sort of click)Feb 05 22:57
MinceRor even sounds humans can't even makeFeb 05 22:57
cubexyzmany many implausible things about star trekFeb 05 22:57
cubexyzyou have to accept FLT and the transporter, which both are probably impossibleFeb 05 22:57
cubexyzFTL Feb 05 22:58
XRevan86cubexyz: Very much. But this was like a whole next step.Feb 05 22:58
MinceRi thought there even was a theory for how FTL could work in realityFeb 05 22:58
MinceRat least oneFeb 05 22:58
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_driveFeb 05 22:58
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XRevan86cubexyz: The whole plot is that the transporter can make people younger or older at a whim.Feb 05 22:58
XRevan86and all that because DNA something-somethingFeb 05 22:58
cubexyzXRevan86, what about conservation of mass? that episode with good and evil kirk, or two rikers...Feb 05 22:59
XRevan86Not only does that make no sense, they do not realise the implications eitherFeb 05 22:59
cubexyzgood and evil dogs tooFeb 05 22:59
XRevan86and Picard changed his accent too, which was the most unbelievable thing of all %)Feb 05 23:00
cubexyzdoes any sci-fi really deal with the language issue?Feb 05 23:00
XRevan86cubexyz: SpoilersFeb 05 23:00
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18083125Feb 05 23:00
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XRevan86cubexyz: Farscape has babelfishesFeb 05 23:01
MinceRh2g2 has babelfishesFeb 05 23:01
XRevan86MinceR: you don't sayFeb 05 23:01
MinceR:>Feb 05 23:01
cubexyzh2g2?Feb 05 23:01
XRevan86cubexyz: hitchhiker's guide to the galaxyFeb 05 23:01
cubexyzright, rightFeb 05 23:01
XRevan86Farscape doesn't call them babelfishes, nor do they look like fishesFeb 05 23:02
cubexyzI would do sci-fi this way:Feb 05 23:02
XRevan86but it's the same dealFeb 05 23:02
cubexyzno time travel, no transporter, no FTL travelFeb 05 23:02
XRevan86Babylon-5 hasn't a linguistic issue.Feb 05 23:03
XRevan86B5: [X][ ][X]Feb 05 23:03
XRevan86The transporter is actually not very common in sci-fiFeb 05 23:03
cubexyzyeah, just thinking what the oldest example would beFeb 05 23:05
cubexyzprobably Arabian NightsFeb 05 23:06
XRevan86cubexyz: Of what?Feb 05 23:06
cubexyzteleportationFeb 05 23:06
MinceRcubexyz: you could invent new languages for everyone and use subtitles :>Feb 05 23:06
cubexyzok, some aliens could speak english, but all of them? ridiculous...Feb 05 23:07
XRevan86MinceR: And then the main cast will have to read them %)Feb 05 23:07
MinceR:>Feb 05 23:08
XRevan86cubexyz: Or just $LANG possiblyFeb 05 23:09
XRevan86depending on the localisationFeb 05 23:09
XRevan86but in ST in the last episode of Discovery it was explicitly said that it's EnglishFeb 05 23:09
XRevan86or not $LANG but possibly just some random galactic languageFeb 05 23:10
XRevan86not that this would fix the issue that completely unrelated culture still use the same language as the main charactersFeb 05 23:11
XRevan86* culturesFeb 05 23:11
cubexyzin next gen when Picard is talking to the Sheliak it shows "Sheliak language version" and "english language version" on the computer monitorFeb 05 23:12
XRevan86* still use the same language as the main characters do when talking face-to-face on the planet surfaceFeb 05 23:12
XRevan86Besides, Universal Translator is also magicFeb 05 23:14
XRevan86at least babelfishes have telepathy stuffFeb 05 23:15
cubexyzthere's lots of klingon and a bit of vulcan, I'm not sure any other languages were developedFeb 05 23:15
XRevan86And Universal Translators instead turn insufficient data into accurate translationsFeb 05 23:15
cubexyzok also add tractor beam, and subspace communications to the implausible listFeb 05 23:18
cubexyzand replicators :)Feb 05 23:19
XRevan86replicators are… an insanely powerful technology, that I can say :)Feb 05 23:19
cubexyzforce fields, we don't have that eitherFeb 05 23:20
cubexyzbetter to study kepler, ISS... real scienceFeb 05 23:22
XRevan86cubexyz: Are you saying that real science is better than magic? :)Feb 05 23:23
MinceRand stay far away from fictionFeb 05 23:23
MinceRit's full of lies!Feb 05 23:23
XRevan86Also: The ExpanseFeb 05 23:23
cubexyzstar trek is fun, I like it... but you aren't going to learn very much from itFeb 05 23:23
XRevan86that series is a joyFeb 05 23:23
cubexyzmaybe we could send a radio message to the closest star, that seems possibleFeb 05 23:24
cubexyz110 million watts, probably doableFeb 05 23:27
cubexyzsay you could go 10% of the speed of lightFeb 05 23:29
cubexyzthen to get to Proxima Centauri is only 42 yearsFeb 05 23:30
cubexyza red dwarf if I remember right... probably has planetsFeb 05 23:31
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082925Feb 05 23:37
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oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/4enw0j/what_is_the_weakest_signal_our_radio_telescope/  Its part a question how good is the recieving device as well.Feb 05 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | What is the weakest signal our radio telescope can receive? : askscienceFeb 05 23:40
oiaohmcubexyz: current earth based radio telescopes are fairly effective but one based in space may be able to be better.Feb 05 23:40
cubexyzoiaohm, right, and from what we know there's probably no life to receive radio signals from earth on Proxima Centauri anywaysFeb 05 23:41
cubexyzFlare Star == no life Feb 05 23:41
oiaohmThe biggest problem that most people don't think about with attempting to recieve a radio signal from another planit is the fact the thing is rotating.Feb 05 23:43
oiaohmSo you are not going to be getting a nice constant stream to decode but a stack mixed with each other.Feb 05 23:43
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signaliki/Wow!_signalFeb 05 23:49
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oiaohmcubexyz: subspace communications is kind of a maybe depending on what you class as subspace.    If you had a constant signal being broad cast causing quantum entanglement at each end you might get instant end to end comunication.Feb 05 23:49
cubexyzdamn itFeb 05 23:49
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signalFeb 05 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Wow! signal - WikipediaFeb 05 23:49
oiaohmOf course that is cheating the speed of light not beating it.Feb 05 23:49
oiaohmOf course there is the possiblity that what ever advance race is out there have avoided radio completely are are using like optical point to point with no wasted signals.Feb 05 23:51
cubexyzmaybe neutrinos could be usedFeb 06 00:06
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kaniinihahaFeb 06 02:34
kaniinischestowitz: i am moving pleroma.site to be on the same side of the network that techrights is onFeb 06 02:34
kaniiniwent from IBM POWER8 to IBM POWER9Feb 06 02:44
kaniinihalf the power consumption and its fasterFeb 06 02:44
kaniiniamazing stuffFeb 06 02:44
kaniiniand no fucking meltdown or backdoors in the damn CPU :PFeb 06 02:44
oiaohmkaniini: you have to watch version of Power9 some power9 designs are effected by meltdown.Feb 06 02:47
oiaohmkaniini: all power8 are.Feb 06 02:48
kaniinioiaohm: yes, that is why i moved to latest POWER9Feb 06 02:48
oiaohmkaniini: some fabs are not producing the newest designs yet.Feb 06 02:48
kaniiniyes, well IBM says this is a meltdown-free pair of CPUs in this machineFeb 06 02:49
kaniiniif it turns out they are wrong, i have lawyers (:Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmthere are 10 different power9 dias I know of in production.Feb 06 02:49
oiaohm8 still have the issues.Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmJust make sure you are getting the right version.Feb 06 02:49
oiaohmIts not that hard to run a software test for meltdown defect.Feb 06 02:50
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schestowitz[02:44] <kaniini> and no fucking meltdown or backdoors in the damn CPU :PFeb 06 05:00
schestowitznone knownFeb 06 05:00
schestowitzIBM is always a bit secretive about its dealings with the stateFeb 06 05:01
schestowitzhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/Feb 06 05:01
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schestowitzhttps://www.wired.com/story/how-pentagons-move-to-cloud-landed-in-mud/Feb 06 05:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: really if CIA is on the amazon cloud it will make it major target.Feb 06 05:59
DaemonFC[m]So Comcast can't get my cable internet on because they either can't figure out where I live or the line is broken. We don't know yet. They have a tech coming out tomorrow, hopefully.Feb 06 06:22
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schestowitzkaniini: long downtime I seeFeb 06 06:52
schestowitz(pleroma I mean)Feb 06 06:52
kaniinischestowitz: ?Feb 06 06:52
kaniinischestowitz: it is upFeb 06 06:52
schestowitzlet me try to refresh..Feb 06 06:52
schestowitztwo browserFeb 06 06:54
schestowitztwo machines, same outcomeFeb 06 06:54
kaniinitry nowFeb 06 06:55
schestowitzokFeb 06 06:55
schestowitznow it's OKFeb 06 06:55
schestowitzlooks like it resolved on both a minute or so agoFeb 06 06:56
kaniini[19015.277357] NMI watchdog: Watchdog detected hard LOCKUP on cpu 4Feb 06 07:07
kaniinigrrFeb 06 07:07
kaniinigoing to downgrade kernelFeb 06 07:15
kaniiniyou knowFeb 06 07:29
kaniiniIBM pay people to work on this bullshitFeb 06 07:29
kaniiniwhy is there such QA failuresFeb 06 07:29
MinceRhttp://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-488-jpFeb 06 07:31
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/K2p0rWF.jpgFeb 06 07:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120347 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2aefd29a-b72f-4e4a-9152-576dcf96d904]Feb 06 08:21
schestowitzkaniini: needed time to adapt myself too, but not uptime is great on the new serverFeb 06 08:35
schestowitza friend also set up alerts from a shell and can restart from the hv in case of issues, within a few minutesFeb 06 08:36
schestowitzhe once wrote for us a script that automated this, about 5 years ago when apache was getting all dysfunctional, but it's better done in a semi-supervised fashionFeb 06 08:37
schestowitzkaniini: anyhoo... the reality of getting used to new things and finding what works. Part of the migration cost. Speaking of which, we want to pay you for your time, do you have an account on paypal?Feb 06 08:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What blockchain and open source communities have in common http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120348 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7662df60-bf2e-45e0-a968-4db5f3680d6a]Feb 06 08:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NetLogo for scientific research: Modeling http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120349 [https://pleroma.site/objects/987c582f-2c9e-4b35-a448-fdba5775b016]Feb 06 08:50
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120350 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a4ecbe3b-4a14-4bcc-81eb-34a344159ce6]Feb 06 09:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120351 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9d1b14e-9c20-46e3-b466-cae90b6ceac1]Feb 06 09:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: aux.app – desktop music player http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120352 #freesw [https://pleroma.site/objects/c5f4aa1b-96ff-4e17-869e-ef9ed1e7c39b]Feb 06 09:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: VLC 4.0 Bringing Lots Of New Features To Many Platforms http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120353 [https://pleroma.site/objects/23a83b00-1aa8-4f6a-9585-4f402e5e9120]Feb 06 09:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: AMD and Zink http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120354 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2a4c573d-97f6-4d3f-a9f6-fe99cbc247b3]Feb 06 09:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4 cool new projects to try in #COPR for February 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120355 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a70c6cb4-3b49-4a58-9b7e-77a69fc109fd]Feb 06 09:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #curl 7.64.0 – like there’s no tomorrow http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120356 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6e3c89d6-768f-4a41-bd64-3871607cdafd]Feb 06 09:35
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082811Feb 06 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 06 13:09
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XRevan86MinceR: This sign gives me mixed messagesFeb 06 13:13
MinceR:>Feb 06 13:13
MinceRi think it's quite clear, just not very informativeFeb 06 13:14
MinceRafter all, the listed items may still be prohibited part of the timeFeb 06 13:14
XRevan86MinceR: The message is clear indeed, but its design sends a different oneFeb 06 13:16
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludonarrative_dissonanceFeb 06 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ludonarrative dissonance - WikipediaFeb 06 13:17
MinceR:>Feb 06 13:18
MinceRthat article doesn't appear to be relevantFeb 06 13:18
XRevan86it's vaguely relevant :)Feb 06 13:19
XRevan86In a game the narrative and the gameplay can be at odds, here it's the form and the textFeb 06 13:20
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082758Feb 06 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 06 13:21
XRevan863. display the password in the open, as required by the lawFeb 06 13:23
MinceR:>Feb 06 13:24
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_gIxTitMMFeb 06 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-(HD) Judge Dredd - YOU BETRAYED THE LAW!!!! - YouTubeFeb 06 13:24
XRevan86https://coub.com/view/4z2tx the lawFeb 06 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Миниатюра: Путин и стул - Coub - GIFs with soundFeb 06 13:38
MinceRlolFeb 06 13:54
MinceRhttps://twitter.com/therealSeanieM/status/1092783179478548482Feb 06 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@therealSeanieM: Theresa May in Belfast today proposing her alternative solutions to the backstop #Brexit https://t.co/Ik5THoIQZiFeb 06 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@therealSeanieM: Theresa May in Belfast today proposing her alternative solutions to the backstop #Brexit https://t.co/Ik5THoIQZiFeb 06 15:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Flowblade 2.0 is Here with New Video Editing Tools and a Refreshed UI http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120357 [https://pleroma.site/objects/02a655d3-d32a-4425-8f79-04ba05f6449e]Feb 06 15:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Imperator: Rome, Spinnortality, Geneshift, Born Punk, 1001st Hyper Tower http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120358 [https://pleroma.site/objects/36f446e3-fb45-4201-811a-dd9c06910e34]Feb 06 15:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine staging 4.1 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120359 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da95c329-1da5-4fa2-88a7-952837d2c8b2]Feb 06 16:12
kaniinischestowitz: i think ultimately we should move the site to containers, but i don't have time to do it for a while.Feb 06 16:14
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/n1hlDGX.jpgFeb 06 16:15
kaniiniand i always take beer money at paypal nenolod@gmail.com if you feel it is needed, but don't feel it is neededFeb 06 16:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Service Pack 1 Beta 3 is ready for testing! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120360 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c2280c9a-6c6c-4f93-a70b-4dc0415d46d9]Feb 06 16:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: There's Finally A GUI For Manipulating Intel CPU Voltages Under Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120361 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f1e3ba26-a940-42b7-a1c3-efddf49a9e7d]Feb 06 16:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IPFire 2.21 - Core Update 127 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120363 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d98dc465-cda4-4308-9a3f-b0f43749e998]Feb 06 16:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The best Linux VPN 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120364 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd663a4b-5e6b-49df-8db2-1e1bb392aba6]Feb 06 17:09
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SystemRescueCd Rescue & Recovery Linux Distribution Is Now Based on Arch Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120366 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d268b2d3-1faa-4bf6-8498-59d890d14b8d]Feb 06 17:26
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: So-called 'Research', ATM Loophole and New Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120368 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2b679686-9a23-46b8-a4e2-6b0b41aef8f3]Feb 06 18:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Rust and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120370 [https://pleroma.site/objects/caf4e2f0-fc85-45aa-8e3e-1dedb6536ce7]Feb 06 19:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ARM Mali 400/500 DRM Driver Volleyed Out Again, Trying To Get Into The Mainline Kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120372 [https://pleroma.site/objects/41eeb945-c0be-41df-8930-da81c1dd6932]Feb 06 19:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chakra: Frameworks 5.53.0, Plasma 5.14.4, and Applications 18.12.0 by KDE are now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120371 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51f3c899-3b77-42d7-a261-3d9e5c36415c]Feb 06 19:18
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082744Feb 06 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 06 19:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Real Cost of Windows (TCO) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120374 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0a4229b4-3547-4b53-8bc1-44edc474a6eb]Feb 06 19:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 6/2/2019: Vivaldi Browser 2.3, Wine Staging 4.1, IPFire 2.21, Snapcraft 3.1 http://techrights.org/2019/02/06/ipfire-2-21/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/77924a9d-4166-4d20-bd4c-5ff026a48493]Feb 06 19:39
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-13Feb 06 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hard Work Is The Key To Success - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-13 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 06 20:57
MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-23Feb 06 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Dare You - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-23 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 06 20:59
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-06-26Feb 06 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Deleting Wrong Pages - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-06-26 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 06 21:20
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/hi29Spt.gifvFeb 06 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | kitten hugs its motherFeb 06 21:48
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So, I got my cable internet up and running.Feb 07 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Comcast said that my modem was too slow for their 200 Mbps $59.99 /mo plan.Feb 07 00:29
DaemonFC[m]So I said, "Well, how about instead of paying you $10 a month to rent one of your modems, I keep the one I already have, and you downgrade my plan to 75 Mbps for $49.99 a month?".Feb 07 00:30
DaemonFC[m]So that's working.Feb 07 00:30
DaemonFC[m]75 is the slowest plan that they have. That's still 75 times faster than my cable internet was 15 years ago. *shrug*.Feb 07 00:31
DaemonFC[m]It's enough to stream 4K television on 6 TVs at once if I wanted to.Feb 07 00:31
DaemonFC[m]So they're selling faster plans, but like....Why?Feb 07 00:32
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Still darn expensive.Feb 07 00:32
DaemonFC[m]Well, in 2003 I was paying $59.99 a month for 1 Mbps.Feb 07 00:35
DaemonFC[m]And it was still a relief to have access to that coming from dial up.Feb 07 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Dial up was about fast enough to check your email in 2003, but even then a web site would take 20 seconds to load. Maybe 15 seconds if you blocked the advertisements.Feb 07 00:36
*XRevan86 still pays $8/mo for 100mbps %)Feb 07 00:37
XRevan86Well, actually less, because there's a discount when payed in advanceFeb 07 00:38
DaemonFC[m]Comcast makes you pay another $5 if you don't use autopay and paperless billing.Feb 07 01:04
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: There's always something new to learn about Comcast.Feb 07 01:06
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DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Yeah, they don't give you a large discount for turning down cable TV, but where they trick you is box rental fees.Feb 07 01:46
DaemonFC[m]They'll do shit like Internet Only is $50 and Internet plus 140 channels is $70, but then they charge you $10 per cable box per month and another $2.50 to rent a remote control for each one. :)Feb 07 01:47
DaemonFC[m]So if you have two TVs, that ends up being $25 in monthly fees for having descrambler boxes.Feb 07 01:47
DaemonFC[m]They really hate internet only customers who own their own modems because we can just get our TV somewhere else, commercial-free, and it's still hundreds a year cheaper than Comcast.Feb 07 01:48
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They should be happy you are their customer at allFeb 07 01:57
XRevan86But of course that's not the attitude, as they expect you to be one either wayFeb 07 01:57
XRevan86There's no way out of the submarineFeb 07 01:57
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schestowitz I guess it's now Year of the Pig.Feb 07 03:29
schestowitzhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/year-pig-welcomed-across-asia-n966951Feb 07 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Lunar New Year 2019: Year of the Pig is welcomed across AsiaFeb 07 03:29
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DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: There kind of is.Feb 07 04:56
DaemonFC[m]For people who don't use the internet much except to watch streaming apps, there's Chromecast now.Feb 07 04:56
DaemonFC[m]Which works around tethering data limitsFeb 07 04:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120377 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17299cb9-3a35-420d-a9b4-b68af23e8c83]Feb 07 05:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: At Just Over One Year Old, LinuxBoot Continues Making Inroads At Facebook & Elsewhere http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120379 [https://pleroma.site/objects/96a4e9cf-b861-4b66-876c-2103fef97a35]Feb 07 05:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Linux 4.20.7, 4.19.20, 4.14.98, 4.9.155, 4.4.173, and 3.18.134 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120380 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f0973a2a-0214-4a5e-a342-0b52866b922f]Feb 07 05:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Six Linux Distributions Benchmarked On The Dell XPS 9380 Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120381 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f96be93b-4175-414d-a23d-afb79b26b7d4]Feb 07 05:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (Bionic Beaver) Delayed for Valentine's Day Due to Boot Error http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120382 [https://pleroma.site/objects/74a1d9a1-863b-4ce9-9223-e7539f327309]Feb 07 05:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Pine64 to Launch Open Source Phone, Laptop, Tablet, and Camera http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120383 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fd5414f2-f0d6-4d90-a7ba-6906a141ce8e]Feb 07 05:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: SpaceBelt, Faulty Chips, SpeakUp FUD, Containers and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120384 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c731afb2-1705-4e46-aa1d-5d731cd1c101]Feb 07 05:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: Devconf.cz, FOSDEM, GTK Hackfest, CHAOSS EU 2019 and LCA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120385 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b2e2a1ca-9390-4a95-82c6-cdda4f0cb458]Feb 07 06:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Design for security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120386 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3291f035-3f9e-4c7a-8d2c-4242d88352bf]Feb 07 06:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts: The Linux Link Tech Show, Going Linux and FLOSS Weekly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120387 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b91e6fb-6e39-4ef5-bd3c-96fe7ee3d068]Feb 07 06:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Systemd, Snowpatch, Linux Foundation and Mesa Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120388 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e70bbda5-4297-4f94-8045-fa1bc0ff9035]Feb 07 06:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: LLD, 'Data Science', Frameworks and Languages, Python Leftovershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120389 [https://pleroma.site/objects/666a5983-3320-4407-90e7-95609f30c2ed]Feb 07 06:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ex- #CopperheadOS dev spits fire as CEO says project not dead http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120390 [https://pleroma.site/objects/26790636-7902-4f0d-b4c3-3a4ce74dd8c6]Feb 07 06:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Mozilla’s Project Fission and New Goals for Mozilla Localization http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120391 [https://pleroma.site/objects/835aa9ff-1452-464e-aef8-98aa9afac423]Feb 07 07:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Going Retro With Electron and FreeDOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120392 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8232d9cd-af43-420e-8004-7b4a0929091b]Feb 07 07:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #GameMode Sees Patches To Allow For GPU Overclocking When Running #Linux #Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120393 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c8ddb3f-f353-4e9b-80eb-e0c0b7b0d75c]Feb 07 07:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120394 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b67b34fc-4c21-4127-a75f-b9f2a654ee00]Feb 07 07:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: CodeReady, Kubernetes and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120395 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44af7a9b-6e23-4c4c-bbc4-2e69496aa1c8]Feb 07 07:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 'Community' Distros: Fedora, Antergos 19.2, and OpenSUSE 15.1 Alpha http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120396 [https://pleroma.site/objects/21653fb3-1103-4008-ba29-3ac85b30333c]Feb 07 07:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: KDE Applications 19.04, Firefox 66, Linux Release Roundup, Safe Eyes and Microsoft Surveillance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120397 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9f1c54a6-61d9-4858-b30b-32b82970fcf5]Feb 07 07:56
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/JY600VW.jpgFeb 07 08:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: FUD and RIP, RDP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120399 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e5df2582-a963-41ac-9636-9e4ee53a0f1d]Feb 07 09:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chromebooks: GNU/Linux Software on Chrome OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120400 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4aa7065-8fd3-4cce-a7b6-f40d90952f7e]Feb 07 09:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Umpires of open source licenses http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/120401 [https://pleroma.site/objects/19f59d5f-be79-4b18-9837-0df4009a51fa]Feb 07 11:00
schestowitzkaniini: $300 received by your gmail account? Can you confirm? May take some minutes to process.Feb 07 11:49
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MinceRhttps://p1.picsto.re/d7Z4S.jpgFeb 07 14:18
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kaniinischestowitz: that's a lot of beer moneyFeb 07 15:23
kaniinihahaFeb 07 15:23
schestowitzeven more if you buy tea with it :-)Feb 07 15:51
schestowitzkaniini: there seems to have been pleroma.site weirdness over the past ~4 hoursFeb 07 15:51
schestowitzI can provide some debug info, but I am guessing you're aware of what's happeningFeb 07 15:52
DaemonFC[m]I moved my electric account at the new place to hourly pricing.Feb 07 16:11
DaemonFC[m]The supply side is at market wholesale rates for the hour with no markup.Feb 07 16:12
DaemonFC[m]You save money most months, especially by moving heavy appliance usage to the night hours.Feb 07 16:12
DaemonFC[m]A man in Rogers Park Chicago changed the address of the UPS headquarters to his apartment and the post office began delivering him entire tubs of mail, including checks and corporate credit cards worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.Feb 07 16:19
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, I move to a new apartment and USPS is like "We can't deliver your mail unless you put your name on the box and call the post office to make sure we know you're there.".Feb 07 16:19
MinceRlolFeb 07 16:20
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Then there's the second favorite government agency. The Department of Motor Vehicles.Feb 07 16:21
DaemonFC[m]They thwart terrorists by demanding to see a utility bill.Feb 07 16:22
MinceRcleverFeb 07 16:22
MinceRi'll start doing that tooFeb 07 16:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR I wasn't getting my mail at the place in South Shore for a while.Feb 07 16:23
DaemonFC[m]So I printed out a Comcast bill and put my new address on it with the gimp.Feb 07 16:24
DaemonFC[m]And the DMV put the address on my license.Feb 07 16:24
MinceRlolFeb 07 16:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR I should have pulled an Elwood Blues and put Wrigley Field.Feb 07 16:25
DaemonFC[m]I've been to most of the locations in the movie, except for Harvey because it's more dangerous than some war zones.Feb 07 16:25
DaemonFC[m]We were at the South Shore cultural center, the 95th street bridge, Wrigley Field, The Loop obviously, the beach in Lake County, the old state prison in Joliet, and more.Feb 07 16:26
DaemonFC[m]I took the Metra to see the prison one day. The state abandoned it in 2002.Feb 07 16:27
DaemonFC[m]It went up in the 1800s and looks like a fortress.Feb 07 16:27
DaemonFC[m]It was so old that it was costing more to run it than it was worth.Feb 07 16:27
DaemonFC[m]The design obviously predates modern standards for a prison and increases danger to prisoners and the staff.Feb 07 16:28
DaemonFC[m]MinceR The fastest way to get shot in Chicago is asking for ketchup on a hot dog. Fun fact.Feb 07 16:29
MinceRwhy?Feb 07 16:29
DaemonFC[m]It's a local thing. Ketchup on a hot dog is a big no.Feb 07 16:31
DaemonFC[m]In fact, most hot dog places won't even put it on if you ask.Feb 07 16:31
MinceRi mean i prefer to eat wieners with mustard, but it doesn't seem so unusual to see people put ketchup in hot dogsFeb 07 16:31
MinceRbut i guess 'murukans are crazy enough to shoot you over condiment preferencesFeb 07 16:31
DaemonFC[m]It's relish, mustard, spear pickle, tomato,and a sport pepper on a poppy seed bun.Feb 07 16:32
DaemonFC[m]Shooting is a slight exaggeration.Feb 07 16:32
DaemonFC[m]MinceR I usually ask for ketchup and wait for a dirty look and then smile and say "kidding, no ketchup".Feb 07 16:34
MinceR:>Feb 07 16:34
DaemonFC[m]I like being up here except for the brutal winter weather.Feb 07 16:35
DaemonFC[m]At least we don't get hurricanes, and the state's never on fire. Feb 07 16:35
DaemonFC[m]The cable guy commented on my laptop. He asked what I was running on it. So we got into a discussion about Linux.Feb 07 16:38
DaemonFC[m]He says a lot of people get viruses on their computer so Comcast has to send them out with antivirus sticks to clean it up and then charges them $100 for the call, which never had anything to do with their internet service.Feb 07 16:38
MinceRhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/TheCableGuy.jpg/220px-TheCableGuy.jpgFeb 07 16:39
DaemonFC[m]LOLFeb 07 16:39
DaemonFC[m]Takes him to Medieval Times.Feb 07 16:39
DaemonFC[m]I think one of the things I liked about Stargate was that the Goa'uld had all of these supposedly advanced weapons for their armies and they were relying on these really inefficient and archaic battle strategies because the energy weapons they passed out to their Jaffa were so imprecise.Feb 07 16:42
DaemonFC[m]I was considering this the other day.Feb 07 16:42
DaemonFC[m]I suppose it makes sense if they didn't value the lives of their Jaffa at all because firing formations lead to mass casualty battles. Feb 07 16:43
DaemonFC[m]We look at the US Civil War and 600,000 people died because they were using outdated tactics with something approaching modern weapon design.Feb 07 16:43
MinceRthey focused on intimidationFeb 07 16:43
MinceRi mean the goa'uldFeb 07 16:44
DaemonFC[m]Right, it was these tactics held over from like the War of 1812 or the American Revolution, but instead of it taking several minutes to load and fire a rifle, it was down to well under a minute and you had these things like the Gattling Gun that were pretty new.Feb 07 16:44
DaemonFC[m]And so you had firing formations and people were just being mowed down because the weapons had improved so much.Feb 07 16:45
DaemonFC[m]It turned into a disaster for both sides.Feb 07 16:45
DaemonFC[m]The Union Army only won the war because they had (at the time) pretty much all of the factories, infrastructure, and population centers.Feb 07 16:46
DaemonFC[m]As such, were able to overwhelm the renegade states in the south, which had an agrarian economy and sparsely populated region under their control, and were unable to secure any meaningful foreign assistance because nobody wanted to intervene on behalf of the losing side and wind up making an enemy when the US government ended up retaking those states.Feb 07 16:47
DaemonFC[m]The Union tactics and strategy were not great, but brute force won the day.Feb 07 16:48
DaemonFC[m]With better tactics and leadership, it should have been possible to win the war with half the casualties.Feb 07 16:48
DaemonFC[m]The US still thinks that going in somewhere and carpet bombing and shock and awe are going to win.Feb 07 16:49
DaemonFC[m]And you may very well destroy a lot of high value targets and topple the government very quickly, but then you end up with a country in ruins and a huge insurgency to deal with and years of occupation. Feb 07 16:50
DaemonFC[m]Consider Iraq. We defeated Saddam's government and disbanded his armed forces in what? Like a few months?Feb 07 16:50
DaemonFC[m]But we're still there 16 years later and even though US soldiers still die every month, the news stopped reporting it a long time ago.Feb 07 16:51
DaemonFC[m]This is the cost of not really considering what your objectives are and what it's going to cost you before you commit to starting a war. Feb 07 16:51
DaemonFC[m]And a lesson that elections (George W. Bush) have consequences and that people who stayed home or voted for Ralph Nader got us where we are now just as surely as if they had voted Republican.Feb 07 16:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I watched the restored Blu Ray version of Lawrence of Arabia and considered how this mess actually unfolded.Feb 07 16:53
DaemonFC[m]I came to the conclusion that Arabs may be ungovernable without someone like an Assad or Hussein because if you give them democracy, something worse will happen.Feb 07 16:54
DaemonFC[m]Islam is a huge pig fuck that brings poverty, violence, and horrendous human rights violations wherever it goes. Much more so than the other major religions, even. Bill Maher knows it. Richard Dawkins knows it. They take shit for speaking out against Islam, but they shouldn't be criticized for it because they're right.Feb 07 16:56
MinceRthey also take shit because they remind people that christianity is so much like islamFeb 07 16:57
MinceRand therefore christian fundamentalists are so much like muslim fundamentalistsFeb 07 16:57
DaemonFC[m]Even the extreme US evangelicals don't seem to be calling for carving out a woman's clitoris so she won't cheat on her husband, who marries and rapes her at 12.Feb 07 16:58
MinceRthey still treat women as chattelFeb 07 16:59
MinceRand they still abuse the state's monopolies on violence to enforce religious rules against those who do not subscribe to themFeb 07 16:59
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: There's a relatively small contingent of radical Christians that actually go so far as calling for gay people to be put to death. If you go to an Islamic country, you see them hanging people if the state finds out they're gay.Feb 07 17:00
MinceRand they still do everything they can to destroy science and undo scientific progressFeb 07 17:00
DaemonFC[m]Often, the state doesn't even get the chance to because a mob will lynch them first.Feb 07 17:00
MinceRyes, if you go to an islaimc country, you can see what will happen in the west if these zealots aren't stoppedFeb 07 17:00
MinceRs/imc/mic/Feb 07 17:00
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yeah, the problem in the US is that a lot of the states have fallen on hard times and never recovered.Feb 07 17:01
DaemonFC[m]So even if the percentage of "none's" have doubled, the Christians in those states are becoming more extreme.Feb 07 17:02
DaemonFC[m]Hard times, hard people.Feb 07 17:02
MinceRall of humanity will fall on hard times if the religious zealots get to retain their political powerFeb 07 17:02
DaemonFC[m]Instead of blaming the system that did it to them and working to change it, it's all the fault of a Mexican.Feb 07 17:02
DaemonFC[m]Economic hardship results in extreme reactions, even like setting up a Nazi or Communist state.Feb 07 17:03
DaemonFC[m]The national government is being torn apart because people who want to go hard right and hard left has gotten out of hand and we're getting politicians running this part of the government or that one that won't compromise with each other and some nasty fights are going on.Feb 07 17:04
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DaemonFC[m]The problem is that the hard right, the Trump people, control the White House and Senate and don't care how much damage they do to the country if they ultimately get their way in the end.Feb 07 17:05
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DaemonFC[m]I mean, it's better than where we were last year when they had the House as well and could pass anything into law that they wanted to, but they used that two years to ram through much of what they wanted, so the damage is done.Feb 07 17:05
DaemonFC[m]Illinois is passing a $15 minimum wage bill. It's overdue, and there's another problem.Feb 07 17:06
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't fully phase in until 2025, when $15 won't be worth the same as it is today.Feb 07 17:07
DaemonFC[m]All of the rich business fucks are pretending that it will break them to pay workers a few dollars more per hour, even though from what we've seen so far in other states, we know that it doesn't and that the increase ultimately benefits the economy, raises living standards, and gives the state a higher tax base and lowers the number of people on welfare.Feb 07 17:08
kaniinischestowitz: yeah it seems like 5 hours ago there was some anti-spectre weirdnessFeb 07 17:09
kaniiniive turned off all those mitigationsFeb 07 17:09
kaniinilets see if it messes up again :DFeb 07 17:09
DaemonFC[m]A lower minimum wage simply results in more income inequality, poverty, and lower state revenues.Feb 07 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Rich people who keep more money do not spend as much and hire fancy tax lawyers to claim all kinds of ridiculous deductions.Feb 07 17:10
DaemonFC[m]The Progressive Income Tax will have to go to voters in the next election.Feb 07 17:13
DaemonFC[m]I plan to vote to amend the state constitution to move us to that system.Feb 07 17:13
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DaemonFC[m]Indiana is top down. I mean, in theory you vote for people to go represent you who have these arguments, but in fact, they really elect themselves by gaming the voting laws, and then they do whatever they want.Feb 07 17:15
DaemonFC[m]I never really liked living there because I felt I had no say in anything that went on and that the assholes in charge were doing pretty much anything they felt like.Feb 07 17:16
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/LYDIiXtHGVvvjmsHCQCXOqkd >Feb 07 17:23
DaemonFC[m]Edited this:Feb 07 17:25
DaemonFC[m]"doctors on committees that regulate healthcare instead of some nutcase telling you we can regress to a barter system where you pay your doctor in chickens...."Feb 07 17:25
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schestowitzkaniini: gotta live defective chips, wait till there are ME exploits :-)Feb 07 17:31
schestowitz(except states')Feb 07 17:32
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XRevan86> I came to the conclusion that Arabs may be ungovernable without someone like an Assad or Hussein because if you give them democracy, something worse will happen.Feb 07 19:13
XRevan86Occasionally this rhetoric is used to justify Putin, because Russians literally cannot live without a tsar.Feb 07 19:14
XRevan86And concerning fundamentalism – it's always on the rise when a nation feels threatened.Feb 07 19:16
XRevan86It's a defence mechanism of utter stupidity.Feb 07 19:16
XRevan86But you know them humans, when they feel insecure, they retreat into what they think is a secure structure.Feb 07 19:21
XRevan86Tradition, religion, etc.Feb 07 19:21
XRevan86the tsar maybeFeb 07 19:22
XRevan86And sometimes governments even find themselves in a situation that causing insecurities in a society is actually… beneficial to them.Feb 07 19:23
XRevan86Wait, I'm just re-hashing "1984", am I…Feb 07 19:23
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-07-06Feb 07 22:13
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-07-20Feb 07 22:25
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/578272.jpgFeb 07 22:52
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/578253.jpgFeb 07 23:07
cubexyzwe must remember that 1984 didn't happen, and people are kind of paranoidFeb 07 23:41
cubexyzI can cite many examples of paranoid behaviourFeb 07 23:41
cubexyzsometimes the paranoid behaviour is justified... but most of the time it's notFeb 07 23:42
MinceRusually it isFeb 07 23:44
cubexyz"Querulant" was the word psychiatrists used it useFeb 07 23:44
MinceRusually people are the worstFeb 07 23:44
MinceRmaybe we could establish a separate state in a separate location for the idiots who can't live without being oppressedFeb 07 23:45
MinceRso they can leave us aloneFeb 07 23:45
cubexyzoh if you lived during certain times then certainly some paranoia was meritedFeb 07 23:50
cubexyzthe first Bolshevik revolution of 1917 for example...Feb 07 23:51
cubexyz"the red scare"Feb 07 23:51
cubexyzand later on there was McCarthyismFeb 07 23:52
cubexyzOrwell was worried about TotalitarianismFeb 08 00:09
cubexyzfalsifying history... I'm not sure that's happenedFeb 08 00:12
cubexyzok, there was propaganda in WWII for sure... but I mean nowFeb 08 00:13
XRevan86In the age of internet it has become increasingly difficult to blatantly lie about historyFeb 08 00:13
XRevan86But manipulation of history, that's a different story.Feb 08 00:13
XRevan86Interpreting eventsFeb 08 00:14
cubexyzwell yeah, you can't be 100% certain about events outside you're first hand experienceFeb 08 00:14
cubexyzoops, s/you're/your/Feb 08 00:14
cubexyzgenerally scientists agree on what the truth is Feb 08 00:15
XRevan86But what's open for propaganda is how to place accents, whom to congratulate and whom to brush awayFeb 08 00:16
cubexyzsure, congratulate those who agree with you, and brush away those who disagree :)Feb 08 00:17
XRevan86What events to focus on and what to find insignificantFeb 08 00:17
cubexyzI'm sure that happens a lotFeb 08 00:17
XRevan86Russians still haven't decided if Stalin was a butcher or a heroFeb 08 00:18
XRevan86Truth much (:Feb 08 00:18
XRevan86The information is not hidden or anything.Feb 08 00:19
XRevan86Or, to be less obvious, Peter the FirstFeb 08 00:21
XRevan86The saviour or a ruthless murderer?Feb 08 00:22
XRevan86There's a popular history narrative, and some things fit in there better than others.Feb 08 00:24
cubexyzthat was the time of Russian America I think...Feb 08 00:25
cubexyzno, wait that was a bit after Peter the GreatFeb 08 00:26
XRevan86A rather brief one. Still I hear Alaska has some remnants of that time in their cultureFeb 08 00:26
XRevan86cubexyz: Much after:)Feb 08 00:26
cubexyz1733 to 1867 according to wikipediaFeb 08 00:26
XRevan86Hm, not as much as I expectedFeb 08 00:27
cubexyzthere was what, 700 Russians and 40,000 Aleuts?Feb 08 00:29
XRevan86cubexyz: About rightFeb 08 00:30
cubexyzor Eskimos as they are sometimes calledFeb 08 00:31
cubexyzXRevan86, I think there were some Creole offspringFeb 08 00:32
XRevan86cubexyz: I saw a video, but IIRC there was a heavy dialect rather than a creoleFeb 08 00:34
cubexyzAluet was written in Cyrillic script... then latin script later onFeb 08 00:35
cubexyzI bet the Aluet Language doesn't have many speakers nowFeb 08 00:36
cubexyzestimated at 100 to 150 active speakersFeb 08 00:37
cubexyzlanguage status is level 7: shiftingFeb 08 00:40
cubexyzmeaning current generation aren't passing the language to their childrenFeb 08 00:40
cubexyzlevel 10 means extinct, so the higher the level the more endangered it isFeb 08 00:41
XRevan86https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninilchik_RussianFeb 08 00:46
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XRevan86And it sure is differentFeb 08 00:50
*XRevan86 opened a file "he is sick" on ninilchikrussian.com and heard "on borait" instead of "on bol(y)eit"Feb 08 00:52
XRevan86Listened to more samplesFeb 08 00:57
XRevan86it weirdly doesn't sound archaic at all, just simplified at timesFeb 08 00:58
cubexyzpreservationists seem to prefer transcription via the latin alphabet Feb 08 00:58
cubexyzthere's no proper written language from what I understandFeb 08 00:59
XRevan86cubexyz: From what I gather from listening to it, either it would be just like contemporary russian, like pre-reform russian or highly phoneticFeb 08 01:00
XRevan86And I suspect the phonetic written language would just reveal inconsistenciesFeb 08 01:00
XRevan86bol' -> bol(y)et' -> bol(y)eyetFeb 08 01:01
XRevan86Synthesis like that has issues there probably, because of shifted pronunciation in some cases (but likely not the others).Feb 08 01:03
cubexyzPeter the Great had a nasty endFeb 08 01:04
cubexyzhis bladder was infected with gangrene, 52 years old when he diedFeb 08 01:05
XRevan86tserkaf' -> cherkafFeb 08 01:05
XRevan86interesting shiftFeb 08 01:06
XRevan86ochen' hóladna -> ochen' halódna (it's very cold)Feb 08 01:07
XRevan86A different stress.Feb 08 01:07
XRevan86clabbered milk in Russian is "prostokvasha"Feb 08 01:13
XRevan86I cannot tell what is said on the audio… prostotykha?Feb 08 01:13
cubexyzclabbered?Feb 08 01:18
cubexyzah I see, unpasteurized milk that fermentsFeb 08 01:19
XRevan86cubexyz: spoilFeb 08 01:19
XRevan86sour milkFeb 08 01:19
XRevan86As I understood itFeb 08 01:19
XRevan86"moose" – not los', but savatFeb 08 01:20
XRevan86I tried hard to find an example with the letter "щ" (:Feb 08 01:23
XRevan86Okay, I think I've found an example of an older pronunciation in Ninilchik Russian – chto instead of shtoFeb 08 01:26
XRevan86"shto" for "что" is the dominant pronunciation in contemporary RussianFeb 08 01:27
XRevan86I say "chto" though, so it's not set in stone %).Feb 08 01:27
XRevan86It also seems to have lost grammatical gender, at least for adjectives.Feb 08 01:32
XRevan86cubexyz: From the PDF dictionary transcriptions it seems I was right about "щ"Feb 08 01:34
XRevan86They kept the original "shch" pronunciation.Feb 08 01:34
XRevan86In contemporary russian they merged into a single sound.Feb 08 01:35
cubexyzthere's a word for what you're doing: diachronic linguistics :)Feb 08 01:36
XRevan86Well, I am wondering when the change in pronunciation of "щ" in Russian, and now I know it happened later than the establishment of this settlement.Feb 08 01:39
XRevan86What puzzles me is that it's absolutely universal in contemporary Russian. No one says it like "shch" anymore.Feb 08 01:40
XRevan86But it seems to be pretty recent too.Feb 08 01:41
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XRevan86cubexyz: I also can safely conclude it's not a creole :)Feb 08 01:42
XRevan86Despite quite a bit of reduction and simplification, it's still authentic Russian.Feb 08 01:42
cubexyzI haven't seen any Aleut language for comparisonFeb 08 01:43
cubexyzalthough I don't doubt you're rightFeb 08 01:43
XRevan86The dialect is irregular too, which probably makes sense, since it's dying out.Feb 08 01:46
cubexyzin 1860 a map of North America would have: Russian America, British America (Canada) and the United StatesFeb 08 01:49
cubexyzand Mexico :)Feb 08 01:49
cubexyzoh yeah... also Danish America... which I think is Greenland nowFeb 08 01:50
XRevan86cubexyz: Ironically, Russian is probably a bigger threat than English to the dialect.Feb 08 02:03
XRevan86As a more regularised version.Feb 08 02:05
XRevan86It's not different enough to be incompatible.Feb 08 02:06
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cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/north-america-1860.jpgFeb 08 02:17
cubexyzdoes mexico look smaller?Feb 08 02:22
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kaniinilooks like i am hitting https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202253Feb 08 03:06
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schestowitzkaniini: install Windows !! (sarcasm)Feb 08 03:26
kaniinithe whole reason i switched from x86 to ppc64le was to avoid this crapFeb 08 03:26
kaniiniit worked well enough on POWER8Feb 08 03:26
kaniinii'm wondering if it is bad code or maybe a bad motherboardFeb 08 03:27
kaniiniat least i am glad that i am not going insaneFeb 08 03:27
kaniiniand someone else is hitting theFeb 08 03:28
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kaniiniPATIENTLY READING THROUGH KERNEL SOURCEFeb 08 03:37
scienteskaniini, you canFeb 08 03:37
scientest be too patient or you will never finishFeb 08 03:37
scientesahh, funky keyboard with ' in a funky placeFeb 08 03:37
scientesso I hit [Enter] when I try to add 'Feb 08 03:38
kaniinithis appears to be a bug in the NMI code, some NMIs are being dropped because the CPUs don't line up to what's in the bitmapFeb 08 03:39
schestowitz'esoteric' bugs...Feb 08 03:39
scientescpus have tons of bugsFeb 08 03:40
scientes of bugsFeb 08 03:41
scienteshttps://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5127Feb 08 03:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Spectre/Meltdown Pits Transparency Against Liability: Which is More Important to You? « bunnie's blogFeb 08 03:41
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kaniinii would use aarch64 for my servers if i could actually buy themFeb 08 04:09
kaniinii standardized on ppc64 because you can actually call IBM and buy themFeb 08 04:09
kaniinimy attempts to buy thunderx equipment resulted in a serious shitshow with the machines being held in customs for 3 monthsFeb 08 04:10
scienteskaniini, I use a aarch64 scaleway serverFeb 08 04:11
scientesand I am using a Pinebook to type thisFeb 08 04:11
kaniiniscientes: yeah, greatFeb 08 04:11
kaniinibutFeb 08 04:11
kaniinii don't host services i care about in other people's facilitiesFeb 08 04:12
scientesfair enoughFeb 08 04:12
kaniinii have a cage and operate my own network (:Feb 08 04:12
scientesbut I donFeb 08 04:12
scientesahhhh: but I don't have a fiber 587 run to my houseFeb 08 04:12
scientes586 IIRCFeb 08 04:13
scientesI ran some of that a week ago in seattle, one fat cableFeb 08 04:13
scientesahh 864 countFeb 08 04:14
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schestowitzkaniini: issue againFeb 08 06:20
kaniiniyesFeb 08 06:23
kaniinimy IBM rep says the motherboard is likely shotFeb 08 06:23
kaniinithey are RMAing it in the morningFeb 08 06:23
kaniinithankfully...Feb 08 06:24
schestowitzred hat :-)Feb 08 06:41
kaniiniif only i could get that kind of support from RH tbhFeb 08 06:59
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MinceR08 011224 <+cubexyz> falsifying history... I'm not sure that's happenedFeb 08 07:33
MinceRit hasFeb 08 07:33
MinceRit's happening in hungaryFeb 08 07:33
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/C61FEuR.gifvFeb 08 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurFeb 08 07:42
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/578185.jpgFeb 08 08:07
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schestowitzkaniini: lockupFeb 08 08:14
schestowitzMinceR: lolFeb 08 08:16
schestowitz"his name is calf sagan"Feb 08 08:16
MinceR:)Feb 08 08:17
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/577995.jpgFeb 08 15:09
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kaniinischestowitz: yuck.  at least the tech should arrive shortly with the new motherboardFeb 08 16:52
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kaniinischestowitz: they brought an entire new machine and are going to swap the disks, so hopefully that will solve all issues :DFeb 08 17:38
DaemonFC[m]I've had the cpu deadlock kernel panic before.Feb 08 17:47
DaemonFC[m]But it was a long time ago on my Phenom II X4 system running a frankenkernel that I patched up heavily to support my graphics hardware better.Feb 08 17:48
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The schools are getting really bad.Feb 08 17:55
DaemonFC[m]John doesn't get any of my references to books that everyone should be familiar with because none of it is required reading anymore.Feb 08 17:55
MinceRrequired reading is overratedFeb 08 17:56
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Things like 1984 and Animal Farm.Feb 08 17:57
MinceRthey keep forcing ancient crap and stuff children won't understand on children and only end up making them hate it allFeb 08 17:57
MinceRoh, they didn't require that hereFeb 08 17:57
DaemonFC[m]They made us read things like that and then there would be a test.Feb 08 17:57
MinceRi guess it's easier in the usaFeb 08 17:57
DaemonFC[m]People are losing their ability to use logic and reasoning to solve problems.Feb 08 17:58
DaemonFC[m]Especially in things that are causing hardships on them.Feb 08 17:59
DaemonFC[m]I saw a shirt the other day that said "Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame a Mexican because you're unemployable.".Feb 08 17:59
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MinceR:)Feb 08 18:01
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/577902.pngFeb 08 18:02
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kaniinischestowitz: should be back upFeb 08 18:11
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1093680562424836096Feb 08 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nowthisnews: ‘We have a system that is fundamentally broken.’ — Rep. @AOC is explaining just how f*cked campaign finance laws re… https://t.co/JcDWZA6Q6dFeb 08 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nowthisnews: ‘We have a system that is fundamentally broken.’ — Rep. @AOC is explaining just how f*cked campaign finance laws re… https://t.co/JcDWZA6Q6dFeb 08 18:32
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/127887/microsoft-deprecating-removing-legacy-features-fall-creators-updateFeb 08 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft is Deprecating and Removing Legacy Features in the Fall Creators Update - Thurrott.comFeb 08 21:03
DaemonFC[m]"That there is still “non-functional legacy code” for Outlook Express inside of Windows 10 is somewhat amazing, and a great example of the type of thing that makes this legacy platform unsustainable from a support perspective in the modern world."Feb 08 21:03
DaemonFC[m]I agree that Windows 10 is an unsustainable legacy platform that is hard to support in the modern world. Feb 08 21:03
DaemonFC[m]How the true size of an OS gets to well over 45 GB and it doesn't come with any useful software pre-installed is anyone's guess.Feb 08 21:06
DaemonFC[m]A big rolling shitpile would be how I'd describe it.Feb 08 21:06
DaemonFC[m]And they literally installed Windows 10 onto flash memory in certain laptops where it was using so much of the space that when it went to update itself to.....literally the next version of Windows 10....6 months after you bought it....the upgrade would fail even if you hadn't used any of the built-in storage.Feb 08 21:06
DaemonFC[m]To make this even funnier, it was a special version of Windows 10 where Microsoft had gone in and carved out entire pieces of the OS just to make it fit in the first place. Feb 08 21:07
XRevan86I think this shows well the consequences of having everything in one big interdependent messFeb 08 21:07
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is now trash talking their own Internet Explorer browser, which has been lovingly zombified into Windows 10, kept in the attic like a funny uncle you don't want to talk about. If they didn't want us to arrive at this mess, they wouldn't have spent two decades implementing half-baked features, incorrect implementations of the web platform that were bad at the time, later on "standards modes" that weren'tFeb 08 21:11
DaemonFC[m]standards compliant at all and were, worse, optional via doctype declarations. Feb 08 21:11
DaemonFC[m]And if they -really- don't want people using MSIE as anything but a crutch for websites that are old and stand little chance of ever being fixed, then they would stop -allowing- it to 1. Be the default web browser in Windows 10 and 2. Remove the user's ability to use it as such by disabling the address bar. Feb 08 21:11
DaemonFC[m]It really goes to show that by leaving the browser chrome intact that Microsoft has not made a clean break with this crap with Edge and may as well have just added the ability for Edge to load Trident as needed.Feb 08 21:12
MinceRthey're just like crAppleFeb 08 21:14
MinceReverything sucks except whatever they're trying to sell to youFeb 08 21:14
MinceRand that only doesn't suck in the moment they're trying to sell itFeb 08 21:15
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: 45gb is easy to work out.  All the crap you have to cart around to run 20 year old applications to current day.Feb 08 22:10
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: yes there are old applications that fail to install if they cannot find outlook express.  Not that outlook express has to work.Feb 08 22:11
MinceRyou'd be in trouble of lookout express had to workFeb 08 22:12
MinceRs/of/if/Feb 08 22:12
oiaohmMinceR: I do know of a few company apps that had to be rewritten because they did in fact depend on outlook express working.Feb 08 22:12
MinceRlolFeb 08 22:13
oiaohmNever underestermate how insane developers are at times.Feb 08 22:13
MinceRespecially those who do stuff for windowsFeb 08 22:13
oiaohmReally being open source does not prevent insanity we wish it did.Feb 08 22:14
MinceRit doesn't, but at least there isn't this one big voice whispering insanities into your mindFeb 08 22:14
MinceRand usually if something is insane through and through (like windows or systemd), it's found out early enough and those who care avoid it if they canFeb 08 22:15
MinceRand in general, you usually have choiceFeb 08 22:15
MinceRif something doesn't work, you pick an alternativeFeb 08 22:15
oiaohmTrue open source does not have the microsoft developer conference saying hey you should be using X features to make your application better then deprecate and break it all next year.Feb 08 22:15
MinceRand the corollary is that you don't get to expect some random bloated application to always be around :>Feb 08 22:15
MinceRi had printing on winblows 3.1 break because i replaced program manager with an alternativeFeb 08 22:16
oiaohmReally I have had windows printing break it self.Feb 08 22:17
oiaohmwithout any help.Feb 08 22:17
oiaohmwinspool even in windows 10 still manages to take it self out in the same ways it did with windows 3.1Feb 08 22:18
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: interesting getting rid of MS Paint.  Really it getting funny thinking how photoshop and gimp started as basic drawing programs and they have growing massively in functionality and all these years latter MS Paint has done basically nothing in features.Feb 08 22:24
MinceRi wonder what m$'s relationship with adobe is likeFeb 08 22:27
MinceRthey did add a misfeature to m$ paint, though -- the ribbon!Feb 08 22:27
oiaohmMinceR: https://news.adobe.com/press-release/adobe-delivers-new-adobe-sign-innovation-advances-microsoft-partnership  this is why I have very little hope of any major Adobe Application coming to Linux any time soon.Feb 08 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.adobe.com | Adobe Delivers New Adobe Sign Innovation; Advances Microsoft Partnership | Adobe NewsroomFeb 08 22:34
oiaohmYes Microsoft removing paint could be part of non competition agreement in that adobe/microsoft partnership.Feb 08 22:37
cubexyzoiaohm, I think the source for m$ paint is kicking around... if someone really wanted to keep using itFeb 08 22:47
MinceRoiaohm: might be one reason why there were no real efforts to improve m$ painFeb 08 23:06
oiaohmhttps://ms-paint-i.de/  really this is kind of a laugh.Feb 08 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ms-paint-i.de | MS Paint IDEFeb 08 23:06
oiaohmHow could you make paint worse someone found method.Feb 08 23:06
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MinceRouchFeb 08 23:07
oiaohmYes that is java coding by using paint to create textboxs in images and writing the code in there.Feb 08 23:10
oiaohmI will give you the open source insane is normally better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1vJd6zBStEFeb 08 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Teaser: Meet the Open Source 4G Commodore 64 - YouTubeFeb 08 23:18
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082669Feb 09 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 09 00:10
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/578344.jpgFeb 09 00:12
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cubexyzI don't find any reason to use Microsoft software beyond the odd game, or stuff I wroteFeb 09 00:39
cubexyzI'd much rather use a native linux programFeb 09 00:39
cubexyznot too keen on telephones that don't have service manuals eitherFeb 09 00:41
kaniiniIBM guy now replacing the ramFeb 09 00:43
kaniinilolFeb 09 00:43
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082640Feb 09 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 09 00:48
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schestowitz[00:43] <kaniini> IBM guy now replacing the ramFeb 09 01:25
schestowitzexcellent!Feb 09 01:25
kaniiniwe found the problemFeb 09 01:25
kaniiniit is actually a problem in the system firmwareFeb 09 01:25
kaniinifor some reason the workload pleroma imposes on the CPU fucks it upFeb 09 01:25
schestowitzit should be workload-agnosticFeb 09 01:26
schestowitzthey should pay you for finding a bug :-)Feb 09 01:26
schestowitzfirmware.. sighFeb 09 01:27
schestowitz[23:06] <oiaohm> https://ms-paint-i.de/  really this is kind of a laugh.Feb 09 01:30
schestowitzRemember Pinta?Feb 09 01:30
schestowitz[22:34] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://news.adobe.com/press-release/adobe-delivers-new-adobe-sign-innovation-advances-microsoft-partnership  this is why I have very little hope of any major Adobe Application coming to Linux any time soon.Feb 09 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.adobe.com | Adobe Delivers New Adobe Sign Innovation; Advances Microsoft Partnership | Adobe NewsroomFeb 09 01:30
schestowitzMight explain why Mac Asay, now in Adobe, keeps doing PR for MicrosoftFeb 09 01:30
cubexyzit wouldn't be that hard to cobble together a basic paint programFeb 09 01:31
schestowitz[18:11] <kaniini> schestowitz: should be back upFeb 09 01:31
kaniinino its fucked againFeb 09 01:31
schestowitzeventually I always post everything, albeit with delaysFeb 09 01:32
kaniiniinstlaling fixed firmwareFeb 09 01:32
schestowitzso weirdFeb 09 01:35
schestowitzthat particular loads would break it. You have to design things poorly on the CPU side for this to happenFeb 09 01:35
schestowitzmaybe some 'optimisations'Feb 09 01:35
schestowitzLike Intel with its defective CPUsFeb 09 01:36
schestowitz[21:03] <DaemonFC[m]> https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/127887/microsoft-deprecating-removing-legacy-features-fall-creators-updateFeb 09 01:36
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Windows is legacyFeb 09 01:36
schestowitzWhat they have going for them is inertia and bribes (to various parties)Feb 09 01:37
schestowitzthey long ago lost the technical battle, Paul T is just living off his past glory, trying to spray fresh paint on rusty old MSFT crapFeb 09 01:37
schestowitzHe also dismisses MSFT criticsFeb 09 01:38
schestowitzwhich was quite funny when I saw him, alluding to me and othersFeb 09 01:38
schestowitzMicrosoft is GREAT now... according to him, and there's nothing to dislike them forFeb 09 01:38
cubexyzwin10 is great?Feb 09 01:39
cubexyzeverybody's complaining about that big-timeFeb 09 01:39
schestowitzMaybe not people Paul R speaks Feb 09 01:39
schestowitztoFeb 09 01:39
cubexyzI make $$$ making sure win10 doesn't get installedFeb 09 01:39
schestowitzPaul T I meanFeb 09 01:39
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/more-win10-fun.txtFeb 09 01:40
MinceRi don't even want any adobe software on GNU/Linux, as adobe's code is utterly horridFeb 09 01:40
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MinceRthey fail at things everyone else does fine, like smooth fullscreen video playback using the APIs invented for that purposeFeb 09 01:41
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cubexyzpeople are continually bitching about win10 on M$ forums :)Feb 09 01:41
kaniiniwowFeb 09 01:41
kaniinithis new unreleased IBM firmwareFeb 09 01:41
MinceRor like rendering PDF one page at a timeFeb 09 01:41
kaniiniway betterFeb 09 01:41
schestowitzit's baaackFeb 09 01:41
kaniinibox was slow and sluggish beforeFeb 09 01:41
kaniininow it is way more responsiveFeb 09 01:41
schestowitzI had buffered my posts until it came back onlineFeb 09 01:42
kaniinisend some out, lets see if it fucks upFeb 09 01:42
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cubexyzand the classic:Feb 09 01:43
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-botch-up.txtFeb 09 01:43
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cubexyzaround here we are emerging from the M$ fog with chromebooks in schoolsFeb 09 01:45
MinceRoh, also, rendering vector graphics smoothlyFeb 09 01:46
kaniiniokayFeb 09 01:50
kaniiniyeahFeb 09 01:50
kaniinithis box is behaving a lot betterFeb 09 01:50
kaniinion this firmwareFeb 09 01:50
kaniinigood job IBMFeb 09 01:51
kaniinion the shit code to begin withFeb 09 01:51
kaniiniand also on fixing your shit codeFeb 09 01:51
kaniini;)Feb 09 01:51
schestowitz[01:45] <cubexyz> around here we are emerging from the M$ fog with chromebooks in schoolsFeb 09 01:57
schestowitzIn the US chromebook sales exceeded Windows laptop sales at schoolsFeb 09 01:57
schestowitzMaybe not just schools anywayFeb 09 01:57
schestowitzor not anymoreFeb 09 01:57
cubexyzwell, most stores have them Feb 09 01:58
schestowitzkaniini: do a blog post about it some time laterFeb 09 01:58
schestowitzI'd like to link to how they handled it and what was wrongFeb 09 01:58
schestowitzsounds like shoddy work from the POWER teamFeb 09 01:58
cubexyzevidently samsung sold out on the Plus 2 chromebookFeb 09 01:58
schestowitzin east Asia it's hard to find themFeb 09 01:59
schestowitzif not impossibleFeb 09 01:59
schestowitzwe went to lots of sroresFeb 09 01:59
schestowitzAll of them have just Windows, never even ChromebooksFeb 09 01:59
cubexyzthat's odd seen samsung is Korean and they definitely make themFeb 09 02:00
cubexyzs/seen/since/Feb 09 02:00
schestowitzkaniini: getting error 504 againFeb 09 02:01
schestowitznow 500 internal server errorFeb 09 02:01
kaniiniinterrupt took 280626335 nsFeb 09 02:01
kaniiniomfgFeb 09 02:01
schestowitzhopefully the IBM reps are still aroundFeb 09 02:06
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r_schestowitzour connection was down temporarilyFeb 09 02:39
r_schestowitzdid I miss something?Feb 09 02:40
r_schestowitzkaniini: backFeb 09 02:49
kaniiniokFeb 09 02:50
kaniinii thinkFeb 09 02:50
kaniinii have it nowFeb 09 02:50
kaniiniqueue it crashing againFeb 09 02:50
kaniinihahaFeb 09 02:51
kaniinirebootingFeb 09 02:51
r_schestowitzokFeb 09 02:51
kaniinibackFeb 09 02:57
r_schestowitzrunning well so far, also no lagFeb 09 03:15
r_schestowitzkaniini: locked up againFeb 09 03:21
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DaemonFC[m]or not anymoreFeb 09 03:36
DaemonFC[m]They counted my laptop as a Windows sale again even though I got rid of it.Feb 09 03:36
DaemonFC[m]The computers that come with Linux are more expensive because they aren't mass market.Feb 09 03:36
r_schestowitzRemember how #microsoft trolls were mocking #gnu #linux over drivers? Well, actually #vista10 is the problem and our #kernel supports far more hardware out of the box. https://appuals.com/fix-the-driver-required-for-this-iphone-is-not-installed-on-windows-10/Feb 09 03:37
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r_schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ^^Feb 09 03:37
DaemonFC[m]r_schestowitz: The Windows graphics drivers are hell.Feb 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]I thought my graphics sucked because they were Intel Iris, but it was really mostly the Windows driver.Feb 09 03:38
cubexyzif you run old hardware, linux/bsd is a mustFeb 09 03:39
DaemonFC[m]The Nvidia/Intel hybrid thing on John's Windows 10 laptop gets screwed up by Windows Update constantly.Feb 09 03:39
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cubexyzit's not so much drivers as documented protocols and datasheetsFeb 09 03:43
cubexyzonce you have those many people can write the driverFeb 09 03:43
cubexyzthank you HP, I'd rather not guess which chipset you new scanners have...Feb 09 03:43
cubexyzs/you/your/Feb 09 03:44
cubexyzas for firmware, it's hard to write, quite hardFeb 09 03:45
cubexyznot too many people can do itFeb 09 03:46
r_schestowitz[03:45] <cubexyz> as for firmware, it's hard to write, quite hardFeb 09 03:53
r_schestowitztell that to kaniini ;-)Feb 09 03:53
r_schestowitzspent a lot of the past week wrestling with bad chips or drivers for the chipsFeb 09 03:54
r_schestowitzThis reminds me of the time Evan was battling with identi.ca after a migrationFeb 09 03:54
r_schestowitzabout 3 days of mostly downtimesFeb 09 03:54
r_schestowitzapache would hang all the timeFeb 09 03:55
kaniiniI figured out the remaining problem myselfFeb 09 04:41
kaniinitimer management is buggy on skibootFeb 09 04:41
kaniinii feel like this POWER9 stuff has not gotten the same level of QA as POWER8 didFeb 09 04:46
DaemonFC[m]I suspect it hasn't.Feb 09 05:02
DaemonFC[m]There are bugs all over the place regarding POWER9.Feb 09 05:02
DaemonFC[m]GCC, Firefox, Linux kernel....Feb 09 05:02
DaemonFC[m]More.Feb 09 05:02
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DaemonFC[m]I pulled over to gas my car up at the Marathon on Sayton Road and it gave me $6.66 worth of gas the other day. Feb 09 05:07
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r_schestowitzoffline nowFeb 09 07:11
r_schestowitzgiven up?Feb 09 07:11
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: with power8 vs power9 you have to remember it took power8 a long time to get kernel stable as well.Feb 09 09:05
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenSUSE-FS-BlacklistFeb 09 21:29
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DaemonFC[m]They should probably just drop the modules, and add reiserfs to the list.Feb 09 21:29
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They are concerned with security risks, not with removing the possibility of using them at allFeb 09 21:30
DaemonFC[m]Who on Earth is going to load the minix file system module in 2019?Feb 09 21:32
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: It's probably miniscule, so they won't bother finding outFeb 09 21:33
XRevan86I mean, the size of the module :)Feb 09 21:33
XRevan86And reiserfs definitely has usersFeb 09 21:34
DaemonFC[m]They should at least drop it as an installer option.Feb 09 21:37
DaemonFC[m]It's a legacy file system and it sucks.Feb 09 21:37
DaemonFC[m]Once it hasn't been allowed for new installs for like 10 years, go ahead and drop it.Feb 09 21:38
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Well, that's unrelated to this…Feb 09 21:38
XRevan86And didn't they? I thought they did…Feb 09 21:38
DaemonFC[m]Probably very few people are going out of their way to install ReiserFS on a new system.Feb 09 21:38
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