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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4596593/  Its not just paper work you want them todo.     You would not be thinking that 1/3 of TB cases in the USA are from illegal imigratents crossing the mexico boarder.Mar 04 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Border Lookout: Enhancing Tuberculosis Control on the United States–Mexico BorderMar 04 01:34
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: and worst the number of those that are drug resistant.Mar 04 01:34
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: there are very few things I agree with trump with.   Securing the USA boarder with mexico is one of those I do agree with based on medicial reason.   Combination of illegal drugs and possible untreatable diseases crossing that boarder has to be fixed by one means or another.Mar 04 01:36
gde33oiaohm: there is this weird amnasia or willfull ignorance where we've destroyed Africa, the middle east amd south america then talk about a migrant problem.Mar 04 01:38
gde33it makes more sense to either not destroy those countries or to just shoot everyone who shows at the border.Mar 04 01:39
oiaohmgde33: one of the biggest problem with migrants is the fact their medical structures where they were in most cases does not work due to war or crime.Mar 04 01:40
oiaohmSo they can carry a huge stack of not diagnosed illenesses.Mar 04 01:40
oiaohmMedically shoot everyone at boarder does work some countries do have that policy.    Also running proper medicial screening on those coming to the boarder does work as well and is more nice.Mar 04 01:41
gde33our wars and our crimesMar 04 01:42
oiaohmYes the drug war in the mexico and south is part the USA CIA fault.Mar 04 01:43
gde33thats a good exampleMar 04 01:43
oiaohmPart dealing with that CIA created problem would be putting up the wall to reduce drugs getting from suppliers to main customers.Mar 04 01:44
oiaohmThis is why I don't have a problem with the mexico wall might not be required at the USA boarder if the CIA and other USA groups had not screwed everything up.Mar 04 01:44
gde33in every big city in the world it takes less than an hour to find any kind of drugsMar 04 01:45
gde33but some how they cant deal with itMar 04 01:45
gde33the US isnt the first country in the world to have a border lolMar 04 01:46
gde33if you look at the internet it seems they recently invented itMar 04 01:46
gde33if it doens't work it must be by designMar 04 01:46
oiaohmAustralia you cannot find any kind of drug in a hour.    You can find made drugs like ice and majaraura  in a hour.   Basically stuff made inside Australia.Mar 04 01:46
oiaohmAustralia we have a sea boarder Mar 04 01:47
gde33there are plenty of countries doing borders out thereMar 04 01:47
gde33its not like the US mexico border is anything special or some exclusive horrible unsovable problemMar 04 01:47
oiaohmMost boarders don't have will funded organised crime crossing the boarder all the time.Mar 04 01:48
gde33india pakistan is the terrible oneMar 04 01:48
oiaohmCIA to get funds mad the mexico/USA and the india/pakistan boarder bad.Mar 04 01:48
oiaohmmad/madeMar 04 01:48
oiaohmUsing drugs to fund secret wars off books was not a good idea.Mar 04 01:49
oiaohmRepairing a broken boarder due to someone setting up proper criminal groups crossing it is a hard problem.Mar 04 01:49
gde33selling them in the country you are "defending" seems a lot like doing it wrongMar 04 01:49
oiaohmand expensive.Mar 04 01:49
oiaohmDoes not matter how you look at the CIA plans around drugs they are just wrong.Mar 04 01:50
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gde33I mean, they did a good job ruining the USMar 04 01:50
oiaohmThe guy who planned 9/11 was trained by the CIA in building demolisions.Mar 04 01:51
oiaohmThere are a long list of people CIA has trained and funed who have come back and bit the USA.Mar 04 01:51
oiaohmOr other countries who USA is so called ally with.Mar 04 01:51
gde33it wasn't their first attempt to blow up the wtc towersMar 04 01:52
gde33the previous [arab] smelled a rat and recorded everything then presented the recording in courtMar 04 01:52
gde33and refused to do itMar 04 01:52
gde33countless weird opperationsMar 04 01:54
gde33shit so weird it defies beliefMar 04 01:54
oiaohmdrugs, guns, conterfiet money, mercenaries different sections of the CIA have hands in it all. Mar 04 01:55
gde33human trafficingMar 04 01:56
gde33organ tradeMar 04 01:56
gde33and probably shit we cant even imagineMar 04 01:59
oiaohmYou really don't stop crime by coming the criminals.Mar 04 02:00
gde33ye wtfMar 04 02:01
DaemonFC[m]I wouldn't be surprised if most of the crime the government fixates on is _the government doing it_ or at least having a role in it.Mar 04 02:50
DaemonFC[m]Every time something horrific happens, people cling to the government. Expect it to solve all of their problems for them.Mar 04 02:50
DaemonFC[m]They forget everything else and want to "feel safe".Mar 04 02:50
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scientesI wonder if it is possible to pay a company to get comcast service on your behalf, and for a fixed contract, so you don't have to deal with a criminal companyMar 04 05:34
scientesI mean all the companies are like that, even local ones like waveMar 04 05:35
scientesand i've worked for these companies through subcontractorsMar 04 05:35
scienteswhat I am complaining about is fraudulent bills, I hear it about all of these companiesMar 04 05:39
schestowitzwhich major US ISP is not a thug?Mar 04 06:04
scientesthe cell phone operatorsMar 04 06:15
scientesVerizon charges more however because they can because they have better coverageMar 04 06:16
scientesbut you can actually get what you pay for from the cell phone operatorsMar 04 06:18
scientesthis is why the sprint merger is so badMar 04 06:18
scientesit could change the status quo which is actually quite good, and much better than it was 10 years agoMar 04 06:18
scientesthere still is locked phone in the US however, which was a stupid idea from the startMar 04 06:19
scientesI am in Costa Rica now, and cell phone coverage is ever more expensiveMar 04 06:19
scientesalthough I guess it is cheaperMar 04 06:19
scientesin the US you can't buy anything less than $15/mo (the government pays $9.50/mo for its low-income program)Mar 04 06:20
scientes*it is cheaper for lessMar 04 06:20
scientesit is also corrupt, because it has facebook (+whatsapp) zero-ratingMar 04 06:21
*scientes wonders if countries get to have better access to facebook spying information if they zero-rateMar 04 06:23
scientesif that is not the case, then it is clearly an affront to a countries sovereigntyMar 04 06:27
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/580912.jpgMar 04 07:56
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schestowitzkaniini: viera?Mar 04 13:47
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DaemonFC[m]No sleep last night.Mar 04 14:51
DaemonFC[m]Friend was having a bad time so I invited him over.Mar 04 14:51
DaemonFC[m]Snoring like a freight train in there. LOLMar 04 14:51
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: So now you're having a bad time?Mar 04 14:51
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, seems that way.Mar 04 14:51
cubexyz<schestowitz> which major US ISP is not a thug?Mar 04 15:14
cubexyzfree-nets, I've talked about this beforeMar 04 15:14
cubexyzof course one could say that a community free-net isn't in the U.S., I'm not sure about thatMar 04 15:15
cubexyzpretty sure that Rochester Free-net is still aroundMar 04 15:15
cubexyzin 1994 that was how a lot of us got internet... from a community free-netMar 04 15:16
XRevan86What's a community free-net?Mar 04 15:24
cubexyzah, you see... this is the problemMar 04 15:25
cubexyzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-netMar 04 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Free-net - WikipediaMar 04 15:25
cubexyzthe free-nets were eroded for one reason or anotherMar 04 15:25
cubexyzalso it could be that there are no russian free-netsMar 04 15:27
cubexyzfree-nets are still numerous in CanadaMar 04 15:28
cubexyzToronto Free-net resells broadband at wholesale prices, essentially it's a non-profit ISPMar 04 15:28
XRevan86cubexyz: I haven't heard of any.Mar 04 15:29
cubexyzhttp://www.lights.ca/freenet/Mar 04 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lights.ca | Freenets & Community NetworksMar 04 15:30
cubexyzKazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine... but no RussiaMar 04 15:30
XRevan86> Kyiv Freenet (www)Mar 04 15:30
XRevan86Appears downMar 04 15:30
cubexyzyes, could be that it doesn't exist nowMar 04 15:31
XRevan86so does the Kazakh oneMar 04 15:31
XRevan86and Kyrgistan oneMar 04 15:32
XRevan86* zstanMar 04 15:32
cubexyzsome links could be telnet linksMar 04 15:33
cubexyzthis is the one I use:Mar 04 15:33
XRevan86cubexyz: The mentioned ones are httpMar 04 15:33
cubexyzXRevan86, ah ok... a pityMar 04 15:33
cubexyzhttp://www.torfree.net/Mar 04 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to www.torfree.net:80; Connection refused ( status 0 @ http://www.torfree.net/ )Mar 04 15:34
cubexyzok, wow, that site is down alsoMar 04 15:37
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schestowitzviera fell off freenoseMar 04 18:23
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schestowitz*freenodeMar 04 18:24
schestowitzkaniini: cheers!Mar 04 18:24
schestowitzkaniini: sorry to bother you; in both channels with the two pleroma accounts I've just tested this. viera does not output anything when updates get posted.Mar 04 18:33
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DaemonFC[m]I still can't figure out #tuxmachinesMar 04 20:29
DaemonFC[m]It's not showing in Riot.Mar 04 20:29
cubexyzXRevan86, you'll find this interesting:Mar 04 20:29
cubexyzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fQtxKmgJC8Mar 04 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Story of Tetris | Gaming Historian - YouTubeMar 04 20:30
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah, yes, the Story of TetyaisMar 04 20:32
MinceR:>Mar 04 20:42
cubexyzI just learned about Faux CyrillicMar 04 20:59
XRevan86cubexyz: Яеаllу?Mar 04 21:01
cubexyzyeah :)Mar 04 21:01
XRevan86ѵегу оддMar 04 21:02
scientesbut that doesn't look like a DMar 04 21:03
scientesавгустMar 04 21:03
scientesare these all cognates? https://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/alphabet.htmlMar 04 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphadictionary.com | The Russian Alphabet (Cyrillic)Mar 04 21:03
scienteslike actually russian words, even though they are similar to English?Mar 04 21:03
XRevan86papa – from FrenchMar 04 21:04
scientesma and pa are just the first sounds a baby makesMar 04 21:04
XRevan86> act, park, port, terror, meteor, doctorMar 04 21:04
scientesthey are the same in almost every languageMar 04 21:04
scienteshey, i'm trying to learn cyrillicMar 04 21:04
XRevan86Those are all Latin-derived loan wordsMar 04 21:05
scientesoh okMar 04 21:05
scientesit progressively gets harderMar 04 21:05
scientesyeah I looked up terror, which interesting is still the same as the latinMar 04 21:05
MinceRthat's what she said.Mar 04 21:05
cubexyzso I wonder which films used faux cyrillic nowMar 04 21:05
*scientes associates faux cyrillic with bad spy novels that still think the USSR is a thingMar 04 21:06
scientesавгустMar 04 21:07
XRevan86scientes: On the left column there's no original Slavic word, except for Volga and… well, vampire (but it's a loan in Russian obviously :)).Mar 04 21:07
MinceRTop Secret!'s take on east germany was hilariousMar 04 21:07
scientesdo you also pronounce his name funny, Augustus CÆser?Mar 04 21:07
scientesXRevan86, that isn't the pointMar 04 21:07
scientesthey are still words in RussianMar 04 21:07
XRevan86scientes: Avgust Tsezar'Mar 04 21:08
scientesoh my bad, AUGUSTUS CÆSERMar 04 21:09
MinceRdon't you mean IMPERATOR CÆSAR DIVI FILIVS AVGVSTVS?Mar 04 21:10
MinceR(or just GAIVS OCTAVIVS THVRINVS)Mar 04 21:10
XRevan86MinceR: Is this a Monti Payton reference or not? :)Mar 04 21:11
scientesoh, they didn't have U?Mar 04 21:11
scientesXRevan86, no, its the real thingMar 04 21:11
MinceRXRevan86: it is notMar 04 21:11
MinceRafaik U wasn't invented yetMar 04 21:11
cubexyzwhen did U get added?Mar 04 21:11
MinceRthough even G is a relatively late inventionMar 04 21:11
MinceRdunnoMar 04 21:11
XRevan86cubexyz: Medieval periodMar 04 21:11
scientesthe nephew of JULIUS CÆSER was OCTAVIVSMar 04 21:11
XRevan86prior to that there was no literal distinction between u/v/wMar 04 21:12
scienteswho then took the name AVGVSTVS and and the title DIVI FILIVS, which is actually readable as-is, but has been translated "son of God"Mar 04 21:12
XRevan86I guess it wasn't kind of like in Ukrainian/Belarusian today with "v" at the initial or last positionMar 04 21:12
scientesbut the DIVI (Divine) was a reference to his uncle, JVLIVSMar 04 21:13
cubexyzI and J were considered the same also at one pointMar 04 21:13
cubexyzconfusingMar 04 21:13
XRevan86(у/в)читель → (u/w)chytel'Mar 04 21:13
cubexyzI was a Joiner and built up a HoufeMar 04 21:14
XRevan86Russian has two separate prepositions – v and uMar 04 21:15
XRevan86в доме (v domie), у дома (u doma) – in the house, near the houseMar 04 21:17
XRevan86In Ukrainian those prepositions merge together, the only difference is the synthetic change of the word.Mar 04 21:17
scientesthe latin lower-case characters were designed my monks that were trying to use less paperMar 04 21:18
XRevan86So… maybe Latin was like that.Mar 04 21:18
scientescyrillic is nice in that it only differs on two characters for small and big: б and АMar 04 21:18
scientesand А is of course the sameMar 04 21:19
XRevan86not really paying attention to u/w/v, just pronouncing it the way it's more convinient.Mar 04 21:19
cubexyzdid the romans use upper and lower case?Mar 04 21:19
XRevan86scientes: And ЕеMar 04 21:20
MinceRno, minuscules were invented in the middle agesMar 04 21:20
XRevan86scientes: I think I forgot to answer: yes, those are all words from a Russian dictionary.Mar 04 21:22
scientescubexyz, no, monks in the middle agesMar 04 21:22
scientesoh that was already answered :)Mar 04 21:23
XRevan86Apart from "е" there's also "є", sometimes used in Russian captions (and it's a distinct letter in the Ukrainian alphabet).Mar 04 21:24
scientesits badly designed thou because bdpq are the same characterMar 04 21:24
XRevan86The shape of "е" is probably a loan…Mar 04 21:25
scientesa also has two representations in latin lower-caseMar 04 21:25
XRevan86scientes: And in Cyrillic those are the same onesMar 04 21:26
MinceRwhen is it to be paid back? :>Mar 04 21:26
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Early-Cyrillic-letter-Azu.svg – here's what Wikipedia shows as an early shape for Cyrillic "a"Mar 04 21:28
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Russian_alphabet_%28marks_by_Peter_I%29%2C_page_1.gif the print shape we all know was probably a result of the Civic Font reformMar 04 21:29
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scientes4 got a new representation because of the invention of the 7-segment LCD display https://patents.google.com/patent/US974943Mar 04 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.google.com | US974943A - Illuminated announcement and display signal. - Google PatentsMar 04 21:29
XRevan86I've noticed that the British write "4" differently than we doMar 04 21:30
XRevan86with two strokesMar 04 21:31
XRevan86Russians just do oneMar 04 21:31
scientesyeah i learned the two strokeMar 04 21:31
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Russian_Cyrillic_handwriting_Flerov_1916.png it can be seen hereMar 04 21:32
scientesbut that is because I don't connect it at the topMar 04 21:32
scientesbecause of the influence of the 7-segment displayMar 04 21:32
cubexyzthere are 14 and even 16 segmented LCD/LEDsMar 04 21:32
XRevan86oh, and I've learnt "7" as two strokesMar 04 21:32
cubexyznot sure if that is still being sold these daysMar 04 21:32
scientesI always put a little serrif on the 7Mar 04 21:32
scientesto make it more distinguishable from a european 1Mar 04 21:32
scientesor you can also add a horizontal dash through it to do the same thingMar 04 21:33
XRevan86scientes: Yeah. I've tried doing just one stroke and that's the reason I've stopped doing that quickly.Mar 04 21:33
XRevan86scientes: How does a serif look like on 7?Mar 04 21:33
XRevan86like on the presented example?Mar 04 21:34
cubexyzthere's probably a unicode 7 with the serifMar 04 21:34
scienteshttps://www.urbanthreads.com/productImages/regularSize/UTH4670.jpgMar 04 21:35
scientesthat has bothMar 04 21:35
XRevan86scientes: rightMar 04 21:36
XRevan86both seems excessive :)Mar 04 21:36
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Russian_alphabet_%28marks_by_Peter_I%29%2C_page_2.gifMar 04 21:38
XRevan86that's unexpectedMar 04 21:38
XRevan86The el is like ΛMar 04 21:39
XRevan86who made up the Л form then?Mar 04 21:39
XRevan86same with ДMar 04 21:39
XRevan86The chances of hitting the two top-edged versions in someone's Cyrillic (non-cursive) handwriting are virtually noneMar 04 21:44
XRevan86Wikipedia claims the two-edged versions were coined in 1840's by Revilyon and Co.Mar 04 21:47
XRevan86A type foundryMar 04 21:47
MinceRhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.htmlMar 04 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Underpaying Many Men - The New York TimesMar 04 22:32
XRevan86kaniini: https://pl.smuglo.li/objects/d0f37544-21ca-4eab-8a47-1cb517adca14 you did it :)Mar 04 22:59
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XRevan86… of course you already know that you did it %).Mar 04 23:06
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XRevan86cubexyz: The video is an interesting one :)Mar 04 23:33
cubexyzyesMar 04 23:46
cubexyza tangled webMar 04 23:46
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schestowitzsuccess!Mar 05 06:01
schestowitzI shot down Slack :-)Mar 05 06:01
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> Thank you bringing up your objections to Slack in the staff meetingMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> earlier (objections which, by the way, I share).Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> I thought when the debate was last kicked off that all xxxxx engineersMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> had been included in the discussions. I do not believe I was correct inMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> this belief however.Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> For this reason I am re-opening the discussions, and I hope you will beMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> a full participant.Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> Mar 05 06:02
schestowitz> I do not want this to take precedence over current workflow for obviousMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> reasons, but I do want to make sure that we are all consulted and allMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> viewpoints are included. I think you will find wide support for findingMar 05 06:02
schestowitz> a Free Software alternative to Slack.Mar 05 06:02
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schestowitz>> ..., but chose to keep quiet an passive about it.Mar 05 08:38
schestowitz> That's a learned condition.  IMHO it is exacerbated in society by theMar 05 08:38
schestowitz> helplessness imposed on Windoze users combined with people applying whatMar 05 08:38
schestowitz> they learn in one area to the rest of their lives.  Best to be cautiousMar 05 08:38
schestowitz> and find out who the worm is.Mar 05 08:38
schestowitzConfrontation makes jobs unpleasant.Mar 05 08:38
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/581054.jpgMar 05 21:04
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1808216Mar 05 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 05 21:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/wviC9N9.gifvMar 05 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 05 21:53
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XRevan86https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-11-13 a rather unexpected mention of asbestos.Mar 05 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 1993-11-13 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 05 23:46
shawn_it misses how overly-scared americans are of asbestosMar 05 23:49
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scientesI mean, it should be used, but it also shouldn't be feared the way people fear radioactive thingsMar 05 23:49
scientesor use to fear leapersMar 05 23:49
scientes(and still do fear medical problems)Mar 05 23:50
scientesXRevan86, are you reading ALL of the Dilbert strips?Mar 05 23:52
XRevan86scientes: yes :)Mar 05 23:53
scientesthe author quit his office plankton job to write DilbertMar 05 23:53
scienteshe found he could describe things much simpler than his collegesMar 05 23:54
XRevan86scientes: It's amazing that he's still up to this.Mar 05 23:57
XRevan86Although his newer strips are less complicated character-wise.Mar 05 23:57
scienteswell I knew about this because he put his whole story in his stripMar 05 23:57
scienteswhere they are running side jobs out of their cubiclesMar 05 23:58
scientesmaybe office plankton would more capable of "thinking outside the box" if they didn't live in one?Mar 05 23:58
XRevan86The only reason I was familiar with the trashman is the animated series.Mar 05 23:58
XRevan86I wonder why the series hasn't gotten a continuation still, there's definitely potential there.Mar 06 00:00
scienteshe will have to be popular internationallyMar 06 00:00
scientesmy uncle, an analog engineer for HP, had to teach his job to a Chinese personMar 06 00:01
XRevan86scientes: Already is at least in Russia :)Mar 06 00:01
scientesahhhhhMar 06 00:02
XRevan86The show was quite popular when it aired here.Mar 06 00:03
scientesi had no idea there was a showMar 06 00:03
XRevan86It's also thought that Scrubs is way more popular in ex-USSR than in the US as well.Mar 06 00:04
scientesthat was REALLY popular in the US howeverMar 06 00:04
scientesbut like Friends, it is a way of learning EnglishMar 06 00:04
XRevan86Hm, thought incorrectly then %).Mar 06 00:05
scientesthat actor has written some good moviesMar 06 00:05
scienteslike Garden StateMar 06 00:05
XRevan86scientes: I've heard, yeaMar 06 00:05
XRevan86scientes: Friends is not very popular around here.Mar 06 00:06
scientesoh, in China thenMar 06 00:06
scientesI saw it here in Costa Rica on the TVMar 06 00:06
XRevan86I personally find it quite dull.Mar 06 00:06
scienteseven now....Mar 06 00:06
scientesyes, it is very dullMar 06 00:06
scientesI don't watch anything written for the TV formatMar 06 00:07
XRevan86Yet another Santa BarbaraMar 06 00:07
scientesbecause that format requires catering to channel surfers (except stuff made for HBO), and it ruins itMar 06 00:07
scientesyou can't do a slow pan shot to allow a pause between scenes for exampleMar 06 00:08
XRevan86Santa Barbara was *extremely* popular in the 90s hereMar 06 00:08
scientesI don't even know what that isMar 06 00:08
scientesall I remember was Babe Watch and RiverdanceMar 06 00:08
scientesand the Spice Girls, and biggest of all, the dot-com bubbleMar 06 00:09
scientesoh, and also the human Genome projectMar 06 00:09
XRevan86https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Barbara_(TV_series)Mar 06 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wikipedia.org | Santa Barbara (TV series) - WikipediaMar 06 00:09
XRevan86*The* soap operaMar 06 00:09
scienteshttps://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/yattaMar 06 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.albinoblacksheep.com | Irrational Exuberance (Yatta)Mar 06 00:11
scientesor the original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWUMar 06 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yatta - YouTubeMar 06 00:12
scientesoh the dot-com bubbleMar 06 00:13
XRevan86scientes: ok…Mar 06 00:24
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scienteswhy did you manage to type a utf-8 ellipsis?Mar 06 03:04
scienteshow*Mar 06 03:04
scientesKak ;)Mar 06 03:05
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XRevan86scientes: Mar 06 11:30
XRevan86Not around, I'll ask what he meant later.Mar 06 11:32
kaniinischestowitz: viera's SSL certificate expired.  i renewed it.  sorry about that.Mar 06 12:41
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schestowitzkaniini: cheers mate!!Mar 06 16:55
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XRevan86The Kressari in DS9 look like the B-5's NarnMar 06 18:14
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MinceRhttp://www.vexxarr.com/Vexxarr100818.gifMar 06 19:37
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MinceRhttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/03/06/hipsters_all_look_the_same_fact/Mar 06 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Hipster whines at tech mag for using his pic to imply hipsters look the same, discovers pic was of an entirely different hipster • The RegisterMar 06 20:28
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MinceR(video) https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_strogatz_on_syncMar 06 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steven Strogatz: The science of sync | TED TalkMar 06 21:01
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schestowitzMinceR: context?Mar 06 21:14
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MinceRnoneMar 06 21:15
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1808215Mar 06 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 06 21:49
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XRevan86I hate Microsoft so much.Mar 06 22:48
XRevan86https://i.postimg.cc/YrRYJLYf/image.pngMar 06 22:48
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XRevan86> to access Skype for Web experienceMar 06 22:51
XRevan86> experienceMar 06 22:51
XRevan86An experience went through an experience, sees the experience – in an experience there's an experienceMar 06 22:51
MinceRalternatively, use less shitty communication toolsMar 06 22:55
XRevan86This explains why a Microsoft employee stated that Mozilla should surrender to Blink.Mar 06 22:57
XRevan86Because Microsoft isn't planning on supporting anything else.Mar 06 22:57
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not affected by this, I'm just pissed.Mar 06 22:57
MinceRand once they've done with EEE, they'll say Google should surrender to Internet Edgesplorer2Mar 06 22:58
MinceRmicrosoft is terribly boringMar 06 22:58
MinceRsomeone should put them out of our miseryMar 06 22:58
XRevan86For some naïve reason I did not expect them to be this pushy and arrogant.Mar 06 22:58
MinceR(or is that Internet EEEdgesplorer? or EdgEsplorEr?)Mar 06 22:59
MinceRlolMar 06 22:59
XRevan86https://youtu.be/znxFrgql5dc?t=20Mar 06 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firefly Clip: This Land - YouTubeMar 06 23:00
XRevan86(curse you sudden but inevitable betrayal)Mar 06 23:00
XRevan86MinceR: "all your chrome are belong to us", yesMar 06 23:02
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sebsebseboh no razziMar 06 23:59
sebsebsebMinceR: AppleMar 06 23:59
sebsebsebhmm rianne  Mar 07 00:00
sebsebsebschestowitz 's girl friend ?Mar 07 00:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121423 [https://pleroma.site/objects/904a6796-2cc0-4404-9759-eae02b538a02]Mar 07 00:11
oiaohmhttps://github.com/Microsoft/calculator  hmmMar 07 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - Microsoft/calculator: Windows Calculator: A simple yet powerful calculator that ships with WindowsMar 07 00:33
oiaohmReally this brings question how long before windows does not have any default apps and todo anything you have to connect to the microsoft store?Mar 07 00:35
XRevan86> This project collects usage data and sends it to Microsoft to help improve our products and services.Mar 07 00:37
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oiaohmXRevan86: Exactly joining windows store gives them extra chances to ask to collect data.Mar 07 01:10
XRevan86Does that mean Store-less Windows has no calculator built-in now? %)Mar 07 01:11
oiaohmhttps://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/calculator-disappeared-from-windows-10/5196a147-0e17-40ec-9ba1-ea27b46388ac  disappeared as built in in 2016Mar 07 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com | Calculator disappeared from Windows 10 - Microsoft CommunityMar 07 01:15
oiaohmAlso now they are wanting people outside Microsoft to help them maintain this stuff.Mar 07 01:16
XRevan86https://cybre.space/@devurandom/101704626966139211 suspiciously timely %)Mar 07 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cybre.space | /dev/urandom: "why isn't crossing the 7 (see img for example) mo…" - CybrespaceMar 07 01:35
scienteslawl, no calculatorMar 07 01:36
scienteswhat are they going to remove next, notepad?Mar 07 01:36
oiaohmscientes: notepad has also been moved to the windows store.Mar 07 01:37
oiaohmscientes: so really its a question to how long until there are no default apps bar windows store.Mar 07 01:38
XRevan86> Kak did you manage to type a utf-8 ellipsis?Mar 07 01:38
XRevan86scientes: A what?Mar 07 01:38
scientes<XRevan86> scientes: ok…Mar 07 01:39
scientesMar 07 01:39
scientesrather than ...Mar 07 01:39
scientesoiaohm, that is INSANEMar 07 01:39
XRevan86scientes: Ah. Compose.Mar 07 01:40
scienteswhat use is a computer if it doesn't have even a basic calculatorMar 07 01:40
oiaohmWho said Microsoft with their ideas is sane.Mar 07 01:41
XRevan86https://xmppshare.meowr.ru/7018dab47d96f0125923921d7e7b834efc33c532/1ENqmEfFixFSsdCQ0PI5sTaTGyivvIzhAvgjHkjL/Screenshot_20190307-044105.pngMar 07 01:41
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XRevan86And I wondered why it's so quiet all of the sudden…Mar 07 01:50
scientesI still haven't figure out how to get Intl. keyboard on UbuntuMar 07 01:52
XRevan86scientes: Did you write something else after my screenshot?Mar 07 02:02
XRevan86scientes: I haven't seen Ubuntu in a while, but it should be trivial.Mar 07 02:02
XRevan86So is assigning Compose ;)Mar 07 02:03
scientesIm just spoiled as my language is EnglishMar 07 02:03
scientesI don't even need gettext, I can just set LANG=CMar 07 02:03
XRevan86scientes: LANG=C.UTF-8 ratherMar 07 02:07
scientesyesMar 07 02:07
*XRevan86 recommends en_DK.UTF-8 as LC_TIME :)Mar 07 02:08
scientesI am in Costa RIca, and DST starts at a differn't time than the statesMar 07 02:10
scientesit is a messMar 07 02:10
scientesDST should be abolished entirelyMar 07 02:10
XRevan86LC_TIME only manages locale presentation of timeMar 07 02:12
scientesbut denmark isn't UTC?Mar 07 02:16
scientesi will checkMar 07 02:17
scientesdoesn't seem any differn'tMar 07 02:18
scientesI am using es_CR right nowMar 07 02:18
oiaohmscientes: https://www.howtoforge.com/changing-language-and-keyboard-layout-on-various-linux-distributions  this is one thing I wish distributions could agree on.Mar 07 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtoforge.com | Changing The Language & Keyboard Layout On Various DistributionsMar 07 02:22
oiaohmscientes: every major distribution has basically come up with own method for setting keyboard mode.Mar 07 02:22
scientesgnome has a standard wayMar 07 02:23
oiaohmYes gnome and kde has their own ways as well.Mar 07 02:24
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DaemonFC[m]I was reading that Gosling's has actually taken several companies and a blog to court for suggesting you need Gosling's Black Label Rum to make a Dark and Stormy cocktail.Mar 07 05:43
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, they trademarked it. All it is, is 2 oz rum in a highball glass with ice topped with ginger ale.Mar 07 05:44
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082095Mar 07 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 07 06:36
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082071Mar 07 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 07 06:43
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082015Mar 07 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 07 07:55
schestowitzkaniini: do older toots get expunged?Mar 07 08:28
schestowitzI see in https://pleroma.site/users/schestowitz "Mar 07 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaMar 07 08:28
schestowitzStatusesMar 07 08:28
schestowitz8286 Mar 07 08:28
schestowitz"Mar 07 08:28
schestowitzJust wondering in case there may be a bug, data loss, other....Mar 07 08:28
schestowitzMaybe only the number shown is a bug/error, I can see under media posts of mine going months back, so it seems to all be on the systemMar 07 08:30
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schestowitzMinceR: hahaMar 07 09:21
schestowitzgood onesMar 07 09:21
schestowitzAsians can lack sense of humour in some areasMar 07 09:21
schestowitzEngrish comes to mind for east Asian product names and adsMar 07 09:21
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kaniinischestowitz: we had some database corruption a few months back so those counters are not necessarily accurateMar 07 12:27
kaniiniand by 'database corruption' i mean a botched upgrade reset those counters to 0Mar 07 12:35
kaniinischestowitz: i think i just fixed the counters :)Mar 07 12:38
schestowitzkaniini: cool, cheersMar 07 13:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: WRATH: Aeon of Ruin, GOG, Spinnortality, Nimbatus, Born Punk, Smith and Winston http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121455 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d55d5412-78ef-45bd-acdf-a630a2649f42]Mar 07 19:09
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 7/3/2019: Ubuntu 14.04.6 LTS , man-pages-5.00 http://techrights.org/2019/03/07/man-pages-5-00/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/7aa3d198-d4ab-4125-9c7e-0d81a46cfe75]Mar 07 20:08
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/vrkJpNh.jpgMar 07 22:37
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/lEkl0Eb.gifvMar 08 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 08 10:26
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MinceRhttps://thanosjs.org/Mar 08 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thanosjs.org | Thanos JSMar 08 10:59
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/busterbcook/status/1103867652538216449?s=19Mar 08 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@busterbcook: Why did the vampire quit the scrum team? Stakeholders.Mar 08 11:07
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/emichen88/status/1103904347811831808Mar 08 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@emichen88: I've been thinking of this video all day since @FluffSocial posted it and wanted to spice it up a lil' https://t.co/I78c0lrzMIMar 08 14:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@emichen88: I've been thinking of this video all day since @FluffSocial posted it and wanted to spice it up a lil' https://t.co/I78c0lrzMIMar 08 14:22
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/22KMt5H.jpgMar 08 17:25
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/itFHwEF.jpgMar 08 17:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, Back Doors, Citrix Cracked and The Pirate Bay Serves Malware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121470 [https://pleroma.site/objects/216cad0b-8ac0-4dff-83fc-cc7d299685d8]Mar 08 19:45
XRevan86https://yro.slashdot.org/story/19/03/08/1820213/chelsea-manning-jailed-for-refusing-to-testify-on-wikileaksMar 08 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Chelsea Manning Jailed For Refusing To Testify On WikiLeaks - SlashdotMar 08 19:58
schestowitzXRevan86: yeahMar 08 20:19
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: pingMar 08 20:22
DaemonFC[m]Yes?Mar 08 20:23
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: How does this channel's id look like on Matrix?Mar 08 20:23
XRevan86#freenode_#techrights:matrix.org, right?Mar 08 20:24
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*DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot from 2019-03-08 14-24-03.png (429KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/MGcotSIEnrCXYCdcVhFIQXRe >Mar 08 20:25
*XRevan86 was trying something mad, but alas, unsuccessfully.Mar 08 20:31
XRevan86To try to join #_freenode_#techrights#matrix.org@bridge.xmpp.matrix.org from XMPP %)Mar 08 20:31
XRevan86But apparently the bridge only allows some rooms and not others, possibly depending on whether guests are allowed to join.Mar 08 20:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ExTiX 19.3, Build 190307 based on upcoming Ubuntu 19.04, with Xfce 4.13, Kodi 18.2 “Leia”, Refracta Snapshot, Nvidia graphics driver and kernel 5.0.0-exton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121475 [https://pleroma.site/objects/53441b8d-2302-4377-972f-f31f6d900e82]Mar 08 20:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: GCC, Python, LLVM, Laravel, Qt, C http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121476 [https://pleroma.site/objects/40722a33-0962-495d-a473-cb27baa8b844]Mar 08 21:01
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/nIuPfs5.jpgMar 08 21:48
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/ivVz8se.gifvMar 08 22:31
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/v5HWbpM.jpgMar 08 23:21
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schestowitzMinceR: #clownComputing https://systemoverlord.com/2019/03/07/bsides-sf-ctf-author-writeup-cloud2clown.htmlMar 09 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemoverlord.com | BSides SF CTF Author Writeup: Cloud2Clown · System OverlordMar 09 04:01
schestowitzit finally happenedMar 09 04:01
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MinceRschestowitz: niceMar 09 14:06
MinceR(video) (audio) https://twitter.com/zilchbot/status/1103032526929518592/video/1Mar 09 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zilchbot: just found out about this deleted scene from revenge of the sith and I am losing my goddamn mind https://t.co/w6QJCvvHmqMar 09 14:27
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XRevan86MinceR: I don't like beeps, they get everywhereMar 09 14:33
MinceR:)Mar 09 14:33
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics and Games: X.Org Server, Egosoft and "Is Shadow Ghost Cloud Gaming As Great As A Powerful PC?" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121500 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e1ddb0a1-8ccf-407a-b3ab-9652104823b7]Mar 09 14:50
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MinceRhttp://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1781Mar 09 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scp-wiki.net | SCP-1781 - SCP FoundationMar 09 15:33
XRevan86https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-07-12 I didn't know that, good to know.Mar 09 15:41
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBU34NZhW7IMar 09 16:37
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFd7LI44XQMar 09 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Crushed a Chrysler PT Cruiser with a Hummer - YouTubeMar 09 17:09
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/58eMZgb.jpgMar 09 17:41
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzzs5VTXQAANr-9.jpg:origMar 09 18:14
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-12-01Mar 09 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Workplace Bully - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-12-01 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 09 19:11
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scientesMinceR, now your reading Dilbert too?Mar 09 19:14
MinceRnow?Mar 09 19:14
MinceRi started reading it years agoMar 09 19:14
scientesso you influenced XRevan86 ?Mar 09 19:15
scientescause he is reading all of itMar 09 19:15
scientesahhhhh Aerobilet is horribleMar 09 19:15
scientesthey had a $10 cheaper fare so I went with themMar 09 19:15
XRevan86scientes: No, it's independent :)Mar 09 19:16
scientesended up booking 2 tickets, then I e-mailed them, and they canceled BOTH, and charged me a $20 feeMar 09 19:16
scientesmeanwhile the fare has gone up $20Mar 09 19:16
XRevan86scientes: I've been following Dilbert for years too.Mar 09 19:19
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XRevan86just not for decades :)Mar 09 19:21
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-12-21Mar 09 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contacting The Alien Probe - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-12-21 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 09 20:05
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2019-01-06Mar 09 20:30
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/iob90M9.jpgMar 09 20:47
MinceRhttps://twitter.com/nathanwpyle/status/1098362525048074240Mar 09 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nathanwpyle: ✨silly cat✨ https://t.co/rhNQutDC9m https://t.co/77NBjUW98jMar 09 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Nathan W Pyle (@nathanwpyle) • Instagram photos and videosMar 09 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nathanwpyle: ✨silly cat✨ https://t.co/rhNQutDC9m https://t.co/77NBjUW98jMar 09 21:13
MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2019-01-07Mar 09 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Long To Make Ai - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-01-07 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 09 21:42
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/Foone/status/1058676834940776450Mar 09 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Foone: It is 2018 and this error message is a mistake from 1974. This limitation, which is still found in the very latest… https://t.co/YNbPJsnhmsMar 09 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Foone: It is 2018 and this error message is a mistake from 1974. This limitation, which is still found in the very latest… https://t.co/YNbPJsnhmsMar 09 21:50
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/3NqKPc4.jpgMar 09 23:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/SArEXuV.gifvMar 10 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 10 00:40
schestowitzhmmmMar 10 01:15
schestowitztux machines offline againMar 10 01:15
schestowitzwhile me and my friend abroad were both asleep, not seeing alertsMar 10 01:16
schestowitzback up nowMar 10 01:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A New Effort Trying Again To Mainline Linux Kernel Support For The Lemote Yeeloong http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121506 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31dcca90-9e85-4894-ad3f-98aa96a58b80]Mar 10 01:55
schestowitzhttps://www.ubuntupit.com/an-ultimate-list-of-linux-blogs-for-beginners-and-professionals/Mar 10 02:03
schestowitz"Tux Machines is one of the most popular Linux blogs around the world. It describes open source software, GNU/Linux, and its various applications since the year 2004. Besides these, it focuses on some other complex systems like Android, Tizen, Chrome OS, and the tools. It has a well-structured forum where you can get the related information from the experts."Mar 10 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | An Ultimate List of Linux Blogs for Beginners and ProfessionalsMar 10 02:03
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schestowitzscientes: now I know your name :-)Mar 10 03:50
schestowitzare you in costa rica still?Mar 10 03:50
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I saw the link about GNOME Web.Mar 10 04:57
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it still has some kinks, but it's coming along.Mar 10 04:57
DaemonFC[m]The password manager problems are being ironed out and the new ad blocker will land soon.Mar 10 04:57
MinceRdoes it work without that abomination of a desktop environment?Mar 10 05:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, you _can_ do that, but it's not really recommended.Mar 10 05:08
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't duplicate anything that GNOME and GTK already have, so while it runs, you might find it is difficult to do certain things.Mar 10 05:09
DaemonFC[m]Like, GNOME handles proxy settings, so Web just goes along with whatever's there. It relies on MIME type handling and helper apps that are implemented in GNOME, etc.Mar 10 05:09
DaemonFC[m]I would suggest Midori instead if you want a desktop-neutral way to run a browser on top of WebkitGTK.Mar 10 05:10
MinceRi prefer blink actually :>Mar 10 05:11
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schestowitz[04:57] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, it still has some kinks, but it's coming along.Mar 10 05:28
schestowitzusable for daily... well, use?Mar 10 05:28
schestowitzalso, any builds for 16.04?Mar 10 05:28
schestowitzThe one I have of qupzilla is miserably out of dateMar 10 05:28
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DaemonFC[m]usable for daily... well, use?Mar 10 05:55
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the ad blocker isn't terrific, but basically works, and the new one is coming soon that pushes that down to Webkit. The password manager occasionally doesn't detect a form.Mar 10 05:55
DaemonFC[m]Those are the two major issues at this point, and both are being worked on. I mean, 3.32 will solve the password manager issues hopefully.Mar 10 05:55
DaemonFC[m]I think the new ad blocker will land for 3.34.Mar 10 05:55
DaemonFC[m]also, any builds for 16.04?Mar 10 05:57
DaemonFC[m]Looks like it is stuck on 3.18.11, which is really old. Hasn't even been updated for security issues since 2017.Mar 10 05:57
DaemonFC[m]WebkitGTK in Ubuntu 16.04 is in even worse shape.Mar 10 05:58
DaemonFC[m]9 major versions behind and no security updates since 2016. Yikees.Mar 10 05:59
DaemonFC[m]They're not taking good care of their stuff. :/Mar 10 05:59
schestowitzah, so a bit out of dateMar 10 06:14
schestowitzanyway, I can use Firefox on another machine when qupzilla isn't OK for a siteMar 10 06:14
schestowitzquiterrss also copes with most sites OKMar 10 06:15
schestowitzEven without JS turned onMar 10 06:15
schestowitzit's a very decent RSS feeds reader I moved tiMar 10 06:15
schestowitztoMar 10 06:15
DaemonFC[m]I'm not sure what the GNOME thing to handle RSS is.Mar 10 06:17
DaemonFC[m]WebkitGTK itself doesn't live near the bleeding edge of Webkit development.Mar 10 06:18
DaemonFC[m]By the time a new stable branch is out, it's 6 months or so behind Webkit Trunk.Mar 10 06:18
DaemonFC[m]Then people use it for another 6 months or longer before upgrading GNOMEMar 10 06:18
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DaemonFC[m]It's comparable to Safari on iOS in terms of standards support, except that it also supports open media formats in HTML 5.Mar 10 06:20
DaemonFC[m]The Javascript engine in Webkit is pretty nice.Mar 10 06:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I would advise moving away from anything using QtWebkit.Mar 10 06:21
DaemonFC[m]It has been too far away from Webkit Trunk to get backported security fixes for a very long time.Mar 10 06:22
DaemonFC[m]Hmmm. I made myself an Anita Bryant.Mar 10 06:28
DaemonFC[m]Vodka and apple juice on ice.Mar 10 06:28
schestowitz[06:17] <DaemonFC[m]> I'm not sure what the GNOME thing to handle RSS is.Mar 10 06:36
schestowitzNot that Lua thing?Mar 10 06:36
schestowitzI remember one, but distinctly, never used itMar 10 06:36
schestowitzkde has aggregator with a K somewhereMar 10 06:36
schestowitzI tried it months agoMar 10 06:36
schestowitzit's veeeeeery badly out of dataMar 10 06:37
schestowitzcan barely even render today's sitesMar 10 06:37
schestowitzmaybe still some old khtml generationMar 10 06:37
DaemonFC[m]Yeah. KHTML can sort of render Wikipedia.Mar 10 06:38
DaemonFC[m]That's about it.Mar 10 06:38
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schestowitzmy sites would work OKMar 10 07:37
schestowitzsame design as over a decade backMar 10 07:37
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DaemonFC[m]Konqueror can use the Qt Web Engine, I think.Mar 10 08:54
DaemonFC[m]Konqueror is in bad shape though. AdblocK is broken with the Web Engine and there's bugs that turn Konqueror into a hung process and things like that.Mar 10 08:55
DaemonFC[m]Many distributions don't even include it anymoreMar 10 08:55
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Past Week's Ghidra (NSA) Coverage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121521 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e5a6c78b-419a-4088-863c-cf00c2a90197]Mar 10 09:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google's Liberation of More Code for Illiberal Spying, Data-mining http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121522 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a311a17e-1e5c-418d-92a9-3e016235726a]Mar 10 09:35
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: its a lot of resources to maintain a functional html engine.Mar 10 09:42
schestowitzmore so nowMar 10 09:56
schestowitzwith all the nonsense they addMar 10 09:56
schestowitzeven EME blobsMar 10 09:56
schestowitzso you need NDAs and stuffMar 10 09:56
oiaohmschestowitz: CVE you need a formal organisation to receive these who can sign NDAs.Mar 10 10:00
oiaohmSo yes software development itself is getting complex.Mar 10 10:00
oiaohmFreebsd run into trouble recently due to not having anyone to sign off for CVE information access then not have a team at that level.Mar 10 10:01
schestowitzsometimes simplicity is still possibleMar 10 10:19
schestowitzin life and computing, e.g. using cashMar 10 10:19
schestowitzeven buying tickets over countersMar 10 10:19
schestowitzfor browsing you can get lots of stuff in ol' school sites and CLUMar 10 10:20
schestowitzCLIMar 10 10:20
schestowitzI get lots of stuff from the comment line these days, it's scriptable, better than some canvassed web pageMar 10 10:20
schestowitzas for the BSD people, they're into this K.I.S.S. thing on desktops and servers alikeMar 10 10:20
schestowitzand I doubt they care much for EME and Netlix etc.Mar 10 10:21
schestowitzbut this is why they stay such a small nicheMar 10 10:21
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/IH9S1yi.jpgMar 10 16:59
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030838Mar 10 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 10 17:21
DaemonFC[m]even EME blobsMar 10 17:43
DaemonFC[m]GNOME Web doesn't support EME,  It does support Media Source Extensions, which are related, but are not DRM, because Youtube requires it now. In fact, MSE wasn't going to go in because nothing demanded it, but that changed things.Mar 10 17:43
DaemonFC[m]so you need NDAs and stuffMar 10 17:44
DaemonFC[m]WebkitGTK developers say that Apple has been quite nice to them. Invites them to the conferences and communicates clearly with them.Mar 10 17:44
DaemonFC[m]DaemonFC: its a lot of resources to maintain a functional html engine.Mar 10 17:46
DaemonFC[m]Which is why WebkitGTK exists. It's the best solution for GNOME of all the engines out there that can be used. Otherwise they'd have to make Gecko work somehow, which is what they did previously, and Mozilla was more hostile than Apple by making sure Gecko was so tied to their products it became unusable outside of Mozilla, and Blink is so tied to Chromium that Qt Web Engine is essentially an entire copy of ChromiumMar 10 17:46
DaemonFC[m]with Qt bindings.Mar 10 17:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: CVE you need a formal organisation to receive these who can sign NDAs.Mar 10 17:48
DaemonFC[m]I found a null pointer dereference in GNOME Web by mistake last year. It could have been a CVE, but there was no sign that it could do anything except crash the Webkit process.Mar 10 17:48
DaemonFC[m]sometimes simplicity is still possibleMar 10 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Webkit is the simplest answer for a modern web engine because when you embed it, multiprocess and content blocking are handled at the engine level, which means that not every browser has to reinvent the wheel.Mar 10 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Apple considered Google's approach and rejected it because implementing these things at a high level is wrong.Mar 10 17:49
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/QxafKT7.gifvMar 10 17:50
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DaemonFC[m]Webkit might just be the best looking horse at the glue factory since there's only like three major web engines left, but it's leaps and bounds above Gecko and Blink.Mar 10 17:51
DaemonFC[m]EdgeHTML/Chakra seemed to work okay, but the EdgeHTML part wasn't open source, so we'll never know.Mar 10 17:52
DaemonFC[m]It seemed to be one of the brighter spots in the Windows 10 disaster.Mar 10 17:52
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, it was off limits to desktop apps, which could only embed Trident.Mar 10 17:53
DaemonFC[m]You had to go UWP to get access to EdgeHTML, but you could write your own browser for it.Mar 10 17:53
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much the parts of Web that don't work well date back to the Gecko days, and the time before Webkit had a content blocker. So that's being cleaned up now.Mar 10 17:57
DaemonFC[m]For having such a small development team, they do pretty well. Rotting code that has no purpose is swiftly dropped.Mar 10 17:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable kernels 5.0.1, 4.20.15, and 4.19.28 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121543 [https://pleroma.site/objects/62155446-3331-4148-a532-83afe3993563]Mar 10 17:58
DaemonFC[m]That's going on with NPAPI right now since the last user was Flash. Mar 10 17:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121541 #freesw #sharing #freedom [https://pleroma.site/objects/5c64c07d-946c-4690-9c55-46efe3f24e7b]Mar 10 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Plugin support is now off by default and the GUI to toggle it has been removed, but the code to actually handle it is set to be dropped by the time that Flash is no longer supportd by Adobe.Mar 10 17:59
DaemonFC[m]I suggested a more aggressive stance since most users don't even need Flash anymore.Mar 10 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Suggested removing support for plugins immediately, but "off with GUI removed" was decided upstream.Mar 10 17:59
DaemonFC[m]I suggested that probably nobody wants them anymore and if they still have a Flash plugin somewhere, they probably just forgot about it and we don't want to expose people to malicious web content that can spin the plugin up and use it to attack.Mar 10 18:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s #tuxmachines leftovershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121542 [https://pleroma.site/objects/93ac5023-bd5d-4607-a658-f2e330d0af39]Mar 10 18:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 10/3/2019: #GNU and #GNOME Releases http://techrights.org/2019/03/10/gnu-and-gnome-releases/ #techrights [https://pleroma.site/objects/251780ff-5121-4f9e-82ad-d00f3ba5a940]Mar 10 18:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121544 [https://pleroma.site/objects/785d5f90-2de4-4013-a7f9-3bcf68083c24]Mar 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]even buying tickets over countersMar 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]I don't tend to do that with small venues because I'm worried that all the good seats will be gone first. I paid a $2 per ticket Ticket Bastard fee several months ago to see Big Suit and then when we got there, nobody else had arrived yet and we got our pick of seats. Felt pretty stupid, but that was when they were in town and we knew we could go.Mar 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]as for the BSD people, they're into this K.I.S.S. thing on desktops and servers alikeMar 10 18:03
DaemonFC[m]A lot of Linux stuff works in a compatibility subsystem. Not sure about Widevine.Mar 10 18:03
DaemonFC[m]It's costing Mozilla so much to modernize Firefox that they may as well give up.Mar 10 18:04
MinceRseems they're more interested in fucking it up moreMar 10 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Dwindling market share and increasing development costs means that they have no pull on web standards anymore, and working within Webkit would be easier, and at least Google doesn't have control over this.Mar 10 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla could double the Webkit market share overnight, at least on the desktop.Mar 10 18:06
DaemonFC[m]seems they're more interested in fucking it up moreMar 10 18:06
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's like they're bragging about having a clone of Chromium that doesn't work quite right and it being dropped by websites.Mar 10 18:06
DaemonFC[m]*isMar 10 18:06
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I, for one, welcome our new Apple overlordsMar 10 18:07
DaemonFC[m]Well, both Webkit and Chromium accept outside development, but when Chromium improves, it only helps browsers that are basically Chromium.Mar 10 18:27
DaemonFC[m]Webkit is a real engine that works in browsers that are not Safari.Mar 10 18:27
DaemonFC[m]I'd have to describe Chromium as disgustingly bloated and badly designed.Mar 10 18:28
MinceRa real engine that likes to crashMar 10 18:29
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes, but what browser doesn't?Mar 10 18:29
DaemonFC[m]At least with Webkit, it's a tab and not the whole browser (Firefox).Mar 10 18:29
DaemonFC[m]I'd rather lose a tab than 20-30 of them.Mar 10 18:29
DaemonFC[m]It greatly reduces the odds that I'll lose something important just because something bad happened in a tab that I may not even care about that much.Mar 10 18:30
DaemonFC[m]Firefox _still_ has the problem where it eventually gets so big you have to close the whole thing and open a new one just to trim the memory usage down to size.Mar 10 18:31
DaemonFC[m]With Webkit, you close a browser tab and it immediately frees up all the memory it was using.Mar 10 18:31
DaemonFC[m]I mean, it's conceivable that the overall GNOME Web browser could leak some RAM, but when 95% of the browser's footprints are tab processes that are walled off and free up everything when closed, it's not a big deal.Mar 10 18:32
DaemonFC[m]Firefox has been known for being not the most gentle consumer of system memory.Mar 10 18:32
DaemonFC[m]At one point, it was so bad you could close all but one tab and the browser is still sitting there at like 1.4 GB of RAM used. It's like "Really!? Really!?".Mar 10 18:33
DaemonFC[m]And forcing a garbage collection cycle might get some of it back, but it was pretty lousy. Still is.Mar 10 18:33
DaemonFC[m]It's easier to just exit out of the entire program, but then 2-3 hours later, same problem.Mar 10 18:34
DaemonFC[m]The problem had so many causes that 7 years later, they're still going at it trying to do something.Mar 10 18:37
DaemonFC[m]It's not straightforward when you have a program that is either losing track of, hanging onto, or just using memory inefficiently in the first place.Mar 10 18:39
DaemonFC[m]The user sees that the program has gotten enormous, but it's really perhaps dozens or hundreds of small problems that each contributed something to the mess.Mar 10 18:40
DaemonFC[m]The program will be there wasting like a GB of RAM and this thing over here is responsible for a few MB, and so is that thing over there, and so on.Mar 10 18:40
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