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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Studying With GNU/Linux, DNS Scam, SELinux Isn’t Scary and Microsoft Windows Updates Are Very Scary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119447 [https://pleroma.site/objects/112ae43c-6630-4516-9d5e-e724e79701b4] | Jan 13 00:36 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Gravity Ace, ArmA, Volcanoids, Arc Savior, Pikuniku and Pikuniku http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119450 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0fbc9392-f952-480c-b785-cc3c76e66dbb] | Jan 13 00:57 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "From deleting user files to granting admin privileges to any user." | Jan 13 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but LPE are pretty common. | Jan 13 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | systemd just had three more. | Jan 13 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Linux kernel has fixes for more in almost every stable update. | Jan 13 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The truth is that the frequency of these things is kind of depressing in all widely used operating systems. | Jan 13 05:38 |
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| r_schestowitz | [05:37] <DaemonFC[m]> "From deleting user files to granting admin privileges to any user." | Jan 13 07:11 |
| r_schestowitz | [05:37] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, but LPE are pretty common. | Jan 13 07:11 |
| r_schestowitz | [05:37] <DaemonFC[m]> systemd just had three more. | Jan 13 07:11 |
| r_schestowitz | [05:38] <DaemonFC[m]> The Linux kernel has fixes for more in almost every stable update. | Jan 13 07:11 |
| r_schestowitz | [05:38] <DaemonFC[m]> The truth is that the frequency of these things is kind of depressing in all widely used operating systems. | Jan 13 07:11 |
| r_schestowitz | what distro do you use now? | Jan 13 07:12 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119452 #linux #google [https://pleroma.site/objects/aab70b30-0155-445c-98dd-f311cadcbe01] | Jan 13 07:19 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > what distro do you use now? | Jan 13 08:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora since Mandriva collapsed. I tried Ubuntu a couple times and didn't ultimately stick with it. | Jan 13 08:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've found a few bugs in things that I could have requested CVEs for if I had wanted to, but it was unlikely anyone would attack them. | Jan 13 08:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things like crashing GNOME Web via password manager with malformed web content. No way to run arbitrary code, but technically it could be considered denial of service. | Jan 13 08:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I found that one because my bank's website triggered it accidentally. | Jan 13 08:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The backtrace wasn't helpful to begin with, but one of the developers created a build that I could run and crash that produced a better backtrace, and the issue was fixed. | Jan 13 08:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The systemd vulnerabilities have been pretty bad though. | Jan 13 08:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, the number of bugs that people are still finding in it is terrifying and unlikely to end as more stuff gets crammed in without worrying if existing features are robust enough to not collapse, leak memory, do bizarre things, or get attacked. | Jan 13 08:50 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: This week in [KDE] Usability & Productivity, part 53 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119453 [https://pleroma.site/objects/48b4ba56-a58d-4031-9951-e3eb62c5117a] | Jan 13 09:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CLA proliferation and the Island of Dr. Moreau http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119454 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bc57fe4d-9aa3-4c06-a13e-365fe11f41aa] | Jan 13 09:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Get started with Joplin, a note-taking app http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119455 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fa7aff47-3c16-4891-a916-980a3b46fa94] | Jan 13 09:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119456 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4bce7323-8e62-4179-81ca-9b40cecd0a94] | Jan 13 09:46 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: the really scary part with lot of the systemd bugs is how many of those releate to projects that were merged into systemd that were used with sysvinit distributions. | Jan 13 10:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top Five World’s Most Underrated #Programming Languages http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119457 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f00e93e-baee-43a5-9638-fdb4f0d99b25] | Jan 13 12:54 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics and Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119458 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d1beef7e-96a1-483a-a4da-72085553995f] | Jan 13 12:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Licensing/Legal: Android-Related Code and Amazon 'Forcing' Companies to Reduce Licence Freedom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119459 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dbb4b169-e222-4add-98fd-50f7c8f28c24] | Jan 13 13:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Traps, Surveillance, and Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119460 [https://pleroma.site/objects/519c2ee1-fdb2-418d-8626-f93e8a9c3f6a] | Jan 13 13:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119461 [https://pleroma.site/objects/338cf2a8-c320-47c2-a691-474ef33e3abb] | Jan 13 13:12 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119462 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5599f2e4-5c7b-41e6-93be-a9c8f7dbab7f] | Jan 13 13:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A new logo for the Fedora distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119463 [https://pleroma.site/objects/510f5910-e903-413c-9246-b2ddaa62b822] | Jan 13 13:29 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Systemd 241 Being Prepared With "System Down" Security Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119464 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a762c00e-9e61-4d39-8c7d-d99209eb7f91] | Jan 13 13:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 15 Best #Arduino Projects That You Can Build Right Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119465 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10cf2f2d-9f5d-4e64-ad15-6ac5595a8f69] | Jan 13 13:34 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME 3.32 Will Do A Better Job Picking The Primary GPU - Helping Out USB Displays, Etc http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119466 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3a0050b5-34cc-468a-81f3-12f5f3e707fe] | Jan 13 13:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: #DigitalOcean Alternatives and the Rise of Containershttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119467 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b794d081-9faf-4fe3-857f-00e96aa42b4e] | Jan 13 13:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #DragonFlyBSD Continues Gutting Its #i386 Code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119468 [https://pleroma.site/objects/54991f14-6c7d-4174-8d8f-4e3cc0be044c] | Jan 13 13:52 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why the Film Lab of the Future is Open Source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119469 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c43e6062-c5a9-4956-a107-6c8d483179f4] | Jan 13 16:23 | |
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| MinceR | http://fatcatart.com/gallery/?lang=en | Jan 13 16:52 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable kernels 4.20.2, 4.19.15, 4.14.93, 4.9.150 , 4.4.170 and 3.18.132 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119470 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cdcbe28f-e9cd-4fc8-a758-919b5a1a4714] | Jan 13 17:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GCC vs. Clang Compiler Performance On NVIDIA Xavier's Carmel ARMv8 Cores http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119471 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd0d0abd-5d34-4a0f-b776-37ebd39ee7c7] | Jan 13 17:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119472 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1f924acd-bb38-41e2-84d1-b276fdcf22ed] | Jan 13 18:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | scientes: The chocolate at the cannabis dispensary is cheaper than it is at Whole Paycheck. | Jan 13 18:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Future Man made me laugh. "Go easy on those macaroons, dude, they're 20 mg a pop!". As Wolf eats an entire bag. | Jan 13 18:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Later, some drug dealers give him meth and he's like, "It's like macaroons for my nose!". | Jan 13 18:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://prohbtd.com/chocolate-and-cannabis-have-something-significant-in-common Did you know this one or was it just lucky guess. | Jan 13 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prohbtd.com | Chocolate and Cannabis Share Something Special | Jan 13 18:48 | |
| cubexyz | something about psycho-active? | Jan 13 18:50 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: chocolate and cannabis contain chemcials that hit exactly the same brain receptors. | Jan 13 18:51 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ‘Linux for Chromebooks’ May Let Chromebook Owners Choose Which Distro to Use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119473 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e1c7d4a-aeef-46fd-b8e9-92e29a039d43] | Jan 13 18:51 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11363932 And that gets very interesting. | Jan 13 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Marijuana and chocolate. - PubMed - NCBI | Jan 13 18:51 | |
| oiaohm | Chocolate + Marijuana might be the best pain killer ever. | Jan 13 18:52 |
| cubexyz | chocolate increases the effects of majihuana | Jan 13 18:53 |
| cubexyz | marijuana | Jan 13 18:53 |
| cubexyz | that's a word I always spell wrong | Jan 13 18:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ‘Celluloid’ is the new name of GNOME MPV http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119474 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3406719b-0d7c-4520-8556-8c04aba96b3f] | Jan 13 18:54 | |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: its one of those things most people don't think of as related. | Jan 13 18:54 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: it also explains why Marijuana can be so rapid hooking. Thinking as kid before getting anywhere near Marijuana you could have been into chocolate so priming the receptors in brain. | Jan 13 18:57 |
| oiaohm | Its like when we use to use alcohol cough medicine with children this did result in higher alcohol problems latter in life. | Jan 13 18:58 |
| cubexyz | didn't some people abuse cough syrup for codeine I think | Jan 13 18:59 |
| cubexyz | although I imagine there wasn't much codeine in it | Jan 13 19:00 |
| oiaohm | Cough syrup and adctivive drugs has been a long term problem. | Jan 13 19:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: I not exactly sure if you call 5% of total volume of cough syrup not much. Yes 5% codeine. | Jan 13 19:01 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: that is better than the 40 percent of alcohol as some of the alcohol basec cough syrups had. | Jan 13 19:02 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: Laudanum that was 10 percent opium 17-19 alcohol at one time was cough syrup, | Jan 13 19:03 |
| oiaohm | Remember at the time all these things were over the counter things. | Jan 13 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | cubexyz: I not exactly sure if you call 5% of total volume of cough syrup not much. Yes 5% codeine. | Jan 13 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, well, that's a controlled substance here and so is pseudoephedrine now. | Jan 13 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you can't even get a real decongestant anymore without going to the pharmacist and seeing if he likes how well you're dressed before he decides whether to give you some sudafed. | Jan 13 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like how they use the word "controlled substance" to describe everything the government has lost control over. | Jan 13 19:12 |
| MinceR | no, only substances :> | Jan 13 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Marijuana is a controlled substance. | Jan 13 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I control how much I use and when. | Jan 13 19:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 13 19:32 |
| MinceR | but for example they don't call microsoft a "controlled substance" | Jan 13 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | r_schestowitz: Yeah, so Fedora. | Jan 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I pull in cherry picked stuff from koji and updates-testing sometimes though. | Jan 13 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The security updates sometimes spend a few days in testing before they can gain enough karma to get out and I don't like sitting here with an unpatched system. | Jan 13 19:43 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: HowTos and Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119475 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b174fcf9-0162-4a42-86f1-09dc45ad9ec0] | Jan 13 19:45 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18122332 | Jan 13 19:48 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17102624 https://ircz.de/p/17102614 | Jan 13 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 13 19:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 13 19:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yup, got that the first time | Jan 13 19:53 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: you know Deutsch? | Jan 13 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | > I like cats more than dogs as there are no police cats! | Jan 13 19:59 |
| MinceR | r_schestowitz: a bit | Jan 13 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2018-19664 | Jan 13 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2018-19664 | Jan 13 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2018-20330 | Jan 13 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2018-20330 | Jan 13 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Two more vulnerabilities plugged in libjpeg-turbo. | Jan 13 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pulling that one in. Will have to restart Chromium for it to load the new library. | Jan 13 20:02 |
| r_schestowitz | MinceR: we didn't like Berlin. Manchester is a lot better. | Jan 13 20:05 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen Manchester yet | Jan 13 20:13 |
| r_schestowitz | It's smaller, but it's OK | Jan 13 20:17 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18122314 | Jan 13 20:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 13 21:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Upgrading #Debian From Stable To Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119476 [https://pleroma.site/objects/485b5001-652f-471b-a3ae-dff94edf7742] | Jan 13 21:27 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://mashable.com/2017/10/04/tia-new-zealand-police-cat/ << Not quite true on the no police cats. Just most police cats are mostly useless. | Jan 13 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mashable.com | New Zealand's adorable cat cop not strong in the field, but 'good at admin' | Jan 13 21:28 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: job police stress management | Jan 13 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Ja, Ich kenne. | Jan 13 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Mi nur estis tradukisto | Jan 13 21:30 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: that is not my language. There are a few documented russia cats with police trained for drug detection.(It would be interesting to know how they achived that one). | Jan 13 21:32 |
| oiaohm | Police dogs are more common and most likely due to simpler training. | Jan 13 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://meduza.io/rss/en/all appears to be working again | Jan 13 21:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Found all of Disturbed in lossless. LOL | Jan 13 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Converted them to Opus and merged them. The upstairs neighbors will love this. | Jan 13 21:59 |
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| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: excellent! | Jan 13 23:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/amazons-whole-foods-just-made-a-massive-strategic-decision-one-that-no-one-saw-coming.html | Jan 14 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon's Whole Foods Just Made a Massive Strategic Decision. No One Saw It Coming | Inc.com | Jan 14 01:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "After all, Amazon enjoys projecting value -- whether it's real or not." | Jan 14 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart too. | Jan 14 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of it is high margin junk that they cut a lot of corners on. | Jan 14 01:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart is selling "High end gaming PCs", so someone did a Youtube review of one and it didn't even have USB 3 front ports. | Jan 14 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My laptop has USB 3 ports. USB 3 has been supported by Linux since 2008. | Jan 14 01:39 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: really why is cutting down on 365 day stores human staffered a suprise. | Jan 14 08:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: amason go is a way better fit to 365 day stuff on costs. | Jan 14 08:28 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119481 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3bb34a18-2511-42e7-9514-a398de566e10] | Jan 14 09:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 6 Different Ways to List Hard Drives in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119482 [https://pleroma.site/objects/531139d1-8253-42b4-a189-2c3f52177ccc] | Jan 14 09:06 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Turn a Raspberry Pi 3B+ into a PriTunl VPN http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119484 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5056c306-73d5-4998-b7b6-0a49ec559a4e] | Jan 14 09:50 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: Reborn OS 2018.11.28 and TinyPaw-Linux 1.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119486 [https://pleroma.site/objects/738bc5c8-4965-41fb-83c5-e5c1b6b7466b] | Jan 14 10:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming With #Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119487 [https://pleroma.site/objects/447b6e6d-f0db-4517-bde6-3f2269c40890] | Jan 14 10:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: Kodi, GNOME Internet Radio Locator, Snaps and Mozilla Firefox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119488 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5fb5171c-51f2-413d-97f1-10c96e40548d] | Jan 14 10:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics and Games: Vulkan, Godot, Hero of the Kingdom III and Rogue Empire http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119489 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31727820-1bd3-4038-8414-70d2047100f3] | Jan 14 10:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Security and Podcasts http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119490 [https://pleroma.site/objects/baf6d877-bcc2-40ec-abdc-b22328a7d9d7] | Jan 14 10:57 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Here's the Default Theme and Artwork for Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119493 [https://pleroma.site/objects/417c2019-abae-44b2-8173-47aa9e6cbc41] | Jan 14 16:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chromebook owners may soon be able to choose which Linux distro to use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119494 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb930e0d-6b81-44fb-b603-c286148ec2cd] | Jan 14 16:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Purism Announces 4K Librem 15 Linux Laptop, Updated CPU and GPU for #Librem 13 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119495 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e37a7c18-6cbd-49de-8c62-67298208a28d] | Jan 14 16:48 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/571348 | Jan 14 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | With his number one hit “I still miss you baby, but my aims getting better”. | Jan 14 16:48 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I am blissfully unaware | Jan 14 16:49 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Best Free Linux Screen Capture Tools (Updated 2019) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119498 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1ad1b4c7-1569-4343-ac7e-b8a11c1fcaa3] | Jan 14 17:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: More GNOME Performance Optimizations Being Tackled Thanks To Canonical http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119499 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2f7db823-27a0-4736-a38a-f3913c0f058d] | Jan 14 17:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What I learned at #WordCamp about the new #WordPress Gutenberg editor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119500 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f4da87c5-50e8-4e17-b25f-70f8f163093b] | Jan 14 17:55 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119502 [https://pleroma.site/objects/58c93414-23cb-4079-8dcb-fc5c2bbebef9] | Jan 14 18:14 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Ultra Off-Road Simulator 2019: Alaska, ET: Legacy, Godot Engine, Bomb Squad Academy, SNES in Switch Online http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119503 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b6718baa-e0b4-4ed9-8687-fdb8d7b1c00d] | Jan 14 18:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Editing Subtitles in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119504 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ff1c7070-d0dd-43c2-9de5-a0640e88eb5b] | Jan 14 18:40 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Rhythmbox is Finally Adopting Client Side Decorations http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119505 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca16cb63-7a0e-4e90-bba2-43a7b6ae867d] | Jan 14 18:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Vista 7, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and Systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119506 [https://pleroma.site/objects/45d3119e-e5da-41de-bdf6-182764e335bb] | Jan 14 19:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: Kubernetes vs. Docker, VR Engines, Microservices, OpenShift, QC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119507 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bc47956b-bc43-4637-9b37-30c3b2053f92] | Jan 14 20:45 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Patches GNOME Bluetooth Vulnerability on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, Update Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119511 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31f473e5-befc-4ade-9e59-e3e01810b092] | Jan 14 21:10 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #PlaidML Deep Learning Framework Benchmarks With OpenCL On NVIDIA & AMD GPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119509 [https://pleroma.site/objects/52641037-acf4-4e71-ac2c-c060f44d82a4] | Jan 14 21:14 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tiny, Feather-style SBC runs Linux on Cortex-A5 SiP package http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119508 [https://pleroma.site/objects/81613187-9df2-4c7a-adff-1a096afab5e1] | Jan 14 21:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #OpenHardware /Modding: PC in Mouse, #Palitra , #ULX3S http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119513 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6029197d-eb24-4c25-b718-6387014e5cf9] | Jan 14 21:20 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120758 | Jan 14 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 14 22:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LibreOffice: First Quarter Without Work For TDF, Mohamed Trabelsi and Jim Raykowski, Report on the New #LIbreOffice Help Pages Online Editor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119515 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6ece7bc8-628a-4175-bb21-7967c984a41b] | Jan 14 22:58 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 14 23:02 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Theme changes in GTK 3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119518 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3c5243cc-c388-43c5-b405-c96482d8c585] | Jan 14 23:09 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120736 | Jan 14 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 14 23:21 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, Docker, Systemd and Government Shutdown http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119520 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6f2102b4-bea6-4e28-b64e-faa0175422dc] | Jan 14 23:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox 67 Plans, Servo, TenFourFox FPR12b1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119521 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b05198b1-45aa-4c32-9cd2-ea699e4a9b43] | Jan 14 23:39 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 14 23:43 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 30+ Awesome Linux #Games to Look Forward to in 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119523 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0dd166d0-d511-44f5-9add-a33b35ee35ef] | Jan 15 00:33 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMD Raven 2 & Picasso AMDGPU Firmware Binaries Added To Linux-Firmware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119525 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e82acd1-6b5f-48ae-b697-5f6517cf00e2] | Jan 15 00:49 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | r_schestowitz: I did an interview with Reuters today. | Jan 15 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With John. | Jan 15 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government shutdown and how it's affecting us. It turned into a pretty long interview. | Jan 15 04:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They took some photos of us sitting at the food bank after going to the unemployment office. We told them how we're having to raid the retirement accounts and rely solely on my income because of them working John without pay. | Jan 15 04:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "It's just everything all at once. We're raiding the retirement accounts. Our lease is up in 2.5 months and we have to move. We can't have them towing the car away. We have a lot of bills to pay and nothing left to cut. It's getting bad." | Jan 15 04:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I talked about other stuff. "The other thing making my blood boil is reading about things like how Trump doesn't want the optics of shutting down our national parks and monuments, so he left them open and vandals came in and started destroying them. Tossing trash everywhere, chainsawing the Joshua Trees, off roading... God knows what else. It just makes you mad because there may not be much of the parks left when the | Jan 15 04:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | government opens back up, and those are being held in trust by our government as part of our heritage.". | Jan 15 04:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It's a big joke to them. The president says we'll 'adjust'. Adjust to what? Having no money? Losing everything?" | Jan 15 04:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "John took his job with the TSA because he wants to serve the public. There has not been a single hijacking since 9/11 on the TSA's watch, and it was happening all the time when it was private security. So it makes me mad when the public who is now very safe, starts complaining about minor nuisances like taking their shoes off." | Jan 15 04:24 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: TSA really you think that the improved so called security has fixed stuff. | Jan 15 05:08 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Rural_and_Regional_Affairs_and_Transport/AviationSecurity45/Report/c03 this is from 2017 at some Australian airports. | Jan 15 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aph.gov.au | Chapter 3 – Parliament of Australia | Jan 15 05:12 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: I like that the reports go on to say all the security faults at that airport found in 2002 and 2003 are still perfectly functional to exploit airport in 2017. | Jan 15 05:14 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: USA airport security is not much different. A lot of the passenger security is smoke and mirrors to make customer fell safe. | Jan 15 05:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian-Based Netrunner 19.01 "Blackbird" Officially Released with New Dark Look new http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119528 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d3ebb89-1ff0-4e14-83b0-7ea355325fb1] | Jan 15 07:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119529 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4cd9f91a-3e49-43ec-b271-3a57f950816c] | Jan 15 07:59 | |
| r_schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: is an article about it published yet? | Jan 15 08:03 |
| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: true, and many do | Jan 15 08:04 |
| r_schestowitz | Now if they take away this theatre, people will be terrified | Jan 15 08:04 |
| r_schestowitz | Like in some domestic flights | Jan 15 08:05 |
| r_schestowitz | because they're now conditioned to think a lot of flights are infested with people trying to take the plane down... but not trains, buses | Jan 15 08:05 |
| r_schestowitz | you can quite easily, as just one unarmed person, take over a bus and drive it off a cliff, killing almost 100 people | Jan 15 08:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Some even tried doing this recently, but thankfully failed | Jan 15 08:07 |
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| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: We have had the example of the driver of bus firebombed. | Jan 15 09:30 |
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| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: Really there is a worst fear for those travelling with poor airport security and dud stuff like TSA keys that someone addes extra stuff to lugage and fails to take it out other end resulting in you being caught. | Jan 15 09:31 |
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| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3c1a268f :( | Jan 15 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | Debian Pastezone | Jan 15 10:09 | |
| XRevan86 | Somehow re-subscription to feeds on pleroma.site fails. | Jan 15 10:10 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Does Pleroma reject OStatus re-subscriptions when it thinks there is already a subscription present? | Jan 15 10:15 |
| XRevan86 | 127 Pleroma feedsubs in total, 14 of them "inactive" (dead), 52 of them "subscribe", 53 – "active". | Jan 15 10:20 |
| XRevan86 | (Pleroma detector – huburi LIKE '%/push/hub/%') | Jan 15 10:20 |
| XRevan86 | 43 of those 53 "active" ones are shitposter.club | Jan 15 10:21 |
| XRevan86 | Since shitposter.club currently uses an outdated version of Pleroma, I suspect a regression. | Jan 15 10:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://pleroma.site/api/statusnet/version.json | Jan 15 10:25 |
| XRevan86 | "Pleroma 0.9.0" – 9 months old? | Jan 15 10:25 |
| XRevan86 | Hm, then not a regression, pleroma.liveunix.org and pleroma.es are "active", and they are branched from commits from 2 and 3 months respectively. | Jan 15 10:27 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120637 | Jan 15 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 15 15:21 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572444.jpg | Jan 15 15:51 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119552 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31343513-5617-4c43-9db8-f8869030a972] | Jan 15 15:57 | |
| kaniini | XRevan86: you observe damage caused by the profile URIs changing. SPC migration was slightly botched. | Jan 15 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Um, I'm saying that SPC works, but pleroma.site and some others don't. | Jan 15 16:34 |
| kaniini | well | Jan 15 16:34 |
| kaniini | bluntly | Jan 15 16:34 |
| kaniini | unless it comes with a patch | Jan 15 16:34 |
| kaniini | nobody cares about ostatus in pleroma anymore | Jan 15 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | (I did fix SPC URLs after their migration) | Jan 15 16:34 |
| kaniini | lol | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | open a bug about it | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | it may or may not get fixed, no promises | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | it really depends on amount of pain in the ass | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | however | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | if you send an unsub | Jan 15 16:35 |
| kaniini | then you should be able to sub | Jan 15 16:36 |
| kaniini | again | Jan 15 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bcdaded3/ | Jan 15 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | Debian Pastezone | Jan 15 16:37 | |
| XRevan86 | I did try that | Jan 15 16:37 |
| kaniini | weird | Jan 15 16:37 |
| kaniini | please open a bug about it | Jan 15 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | > Could not confirm. ServerException: unsubscribe request failed. | Jan 15 16:37 |
| MinceR | https://thehackernews.com/2019/01/scp-software-vulnerabilities.html | Jan 15 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | 36-Year-Old SCP Clients' Implementation Flaws Discovered | Jan 15 16:38 | |
| XRevan86 | > HTTPClient: HTTP POST https://pleroma.site/push/hub/kaniini - 500 Internal Server Error | Jan 15 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jan 15 16:38 | |
| XRevan86 | I didn't notice that before | Jan 15 16:38 |
| kaniini | okay | Jan 15 16:39 |
| kaniini | do it again | Jan 15 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | same | Jan 15 16:39 |
| kaniini | Request: POST /api/v1/push/subscription | Jan 15 16:40 |
| kaniini | ** (exit) an exception was raised: | Jan 15 16:40 |
| kaniini | ** (Postgrex.Error) ERROR 22001 (string_data_right_truncation): value too long for type character varying(255) | Jan 15 16:40 |
| kaniini | whatever youre sending me, it's too long of a key | Jan 15 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently I sended 28c89edfa3e2e98bad8bf309e828012b4ab5ac3f64604552811e05cd868e3636 | Jan 15 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | seems normal | Jan 15 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | I'll try artificially shortening the secret, it's invalid anyway | Jan 15 16:42 |
| kaniini | wait | Jan 15 16:42 |
| kaniini | what the fuck | Jan 15 16:42 |
| kaniini | why is it going to mastodon api | Jan 15 16:43 |
| kaniini | to subscribe | Jan 15 16:43 |
| kaniini | it should go to /push/hub/kaniini | Jan 15 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | It did from my end | Jan 15 16:44 |
| kaniini | maybe | Jan 15 16:45 |
| kaniini | that was someone else's error then | Jan 15 16:45 |
| kaniini | idk | Jan 15 16:45 |
| kaniini | oh | Jan 15 16:46 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: that was unrelated | Jan 15 16:46 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: can you do it again | Jan 15 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | Did, same. | Jan 15 16:48 |
| kaniini | thanks | Jan 15 16:48 |
| kaniini | got it | Jan 15 16:48 |
| kaniini | (plug) lib/plug/conn.ex:576: Plug.Conn.resp(%Plug.Conn{adapter: {Plug.Adapters.Cowboy.Conn, :...}, assigns: %{digest: "SHA-256=mWBnKUCv2tCiu/NEvLnM71u4xan4ei6yms1SjkO8cWk=", kind: :error, layout: false, reason: %FunctionClauseError{args: nil, arity: 2, clauses: nil, function: :incoming_subscription_request, kind: nil, module: Pleroma.Web.Websub} | Jan 15 16:49 |
| kaniini | hub.mode is not set to subscribe ? | Jan 15 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | Is that subscription state? | Jan 15 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | I sent "unsubscribe" | Jan 15 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | now I sent "subscribe" | Jan 15 16:53 |
| kaniini | added some debug | Jan 15 16:53 |
| kaniini | rebuilding app | Jan 15 16:54 |
| kaniini | please try again | Jan 15 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | which one? :) | Jan 15 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | Did both. | Jan 15 16:55 |
| kaniini | 16:54:58.940 request_id=2lt17pd1obq9k45ta40009r1 [info] Unhandled WebSub request for kaniini: %{"hub.callback" => "https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279", "hub.lease_seconds" => "2592000", "hub.mode" => "unsubscribe", "hub.secret" => "33aac3d2fb75298a095f95e269c8b5a08de341ed3b9ff39fb1e6dbd7158d7415", "hub.topic" => "https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini/feed.atom", "hub.verify" => "async", "hub.verify_token" => "Deprecated- | Jan 15 16:55 |
| kaniini | since-PuSH-0.4", "nickname" => "kaniini"} | Jan 15 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279 ) | Jan 15 16:55 | |
| kaniini | please try subscribe | Jan 15 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | done | Jan 15 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | Tried with a random SPC user, now that user is in the same state :/ | Jan 15 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | then tried with a random Mastodon user, worked out fine. | Jan 15 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | SPC is not immune. | Jan 15 16:59 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: what exact paras are you sending to the challenge URL | Jan 15 17:03 |
| kaniini | params: %{"id" => "442"} | Jan 15 17:03 |
| kaniini | there's supposed to be more picked up | Jan 15 17:03 |
| kaniini | or is it a post | Jan 15 17:06 |
| kaniini | god i hate ostatus | Jan 15 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | "HTTP POST" | Jan 15 17:06 |
| kaniini | ok | Jan 15 17:06 |
| kaniini | well | Jan 15 17:06 |
| kaniini | HTTP POST to what | Jan 15 17:07 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 36-Year-Old #SCP Clients' Implementation Flaws Discovered http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119553 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9322013a-6c71-4538-828a-31426273b522] | Jan 15 17:07 | |
| XRevan86 | https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/blob/master/plugins/OStatus/actions/pushcallback.php is this it? | Jan 15 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.gnu.io | plugins/OStatus/actions/pushcallback.php · master · gnu.io / gnu-social · GitLab | Jan 15 17:08 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Um, /push/hub/kaniini | Jan 15 17:09 |
| kaniini | 16:36:30.650 request_id=2lt15osmn548gam4bc0e3nl1 [info] POST /push/hub/kaniini | Jan 15 17:13 |
| kaniini | 16:36:30.651 request_id=2lt15osmn548gam4bc0e3nl1 [info] Converted error :function_clause to 500 response | Jan 15 17:13 |
| kaniini | humm | Jan 15 17:13 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572335.jpg | Jan 15 17:13 |
| kaniini | but | Jan 15 17:13 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: can you do it one last time | Jan 15 17:14 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: hub.mode subscribe | Jan 15 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: done | Jan 15 17:14 |
| kaniini | you were sent 202 | Jan 15 17:15 |
| kaniini | what is your current log saying | Jan 15 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | Nothing apart from "Attempting to (re)start WebSub subscription" | Jan 15 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | it never shown any errors with hub.mode "subscribe", only with "unsubcribe" (which is apparently because it's unsupported) | Jan 15 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | * "unsubscribe" | Jan 15 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | the failure seems to be silent | Jan 15 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | The subscription is unsuccessful | Jan 15 17:19 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/toxictreats/status/1084570132234424321 | Jan 15 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@toxictreats: The perfect girl does not ex... https://t.co/l5DrGcl2eS | Jan 15 17:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@toxictreats: The perfect girl does not ex... https://t.co/l5DrGcl2eS | Jan 15 17:20 | |
| kaniini | XRevan86: well | Jan 15 17:25 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: if we send 202 | Jan 15 17:25 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: then the subscription is successful | Jan 15 17:25 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: i blame GNU Social here | Jan 15 17:25 |
| kaniini | because i just cross-checked our implementation verses the spec | Jan 15 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | HTTPClient: HTTP POST https://pleroma.site/push/hub/kaniini - 202 Accepted | Jan 15 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | FeedSub::doSubscribe: sub req ok, awaiting verification callback | Jan 15 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jan 15 17:25 | |
| kaniini | and you never get the callback? | Jan 15 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | apparently not | Jan 15 17:26 |
| kaniini | because there's no errors about sending you the verification | Jan 15 17:26 |
| kaniini | and, | Jan 15 17:26 |
| kaniini | there's plenty of other people doing ostatus subscriptions and it all seems fine | Jan 15 17:27 |
| kaniini | 211 | https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini/feed.atom | https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279 | 67a593c5a8cf901c95416c873925aa51daa63d120bb231589521bb9839af1497 | 2019-02-14 17:24:28.971514 | requested | 2019-01-10 23:15:14.719928 | 2019-01-15 17:24:28.977839 | Jan 15 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279 ) | Jan 15 17:28 | |
| kaniini | hmm | Jan 15 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | wait | Jan 15 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | I see errors about that | Jan 15 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | I thought that's unrelated | Jan 15 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | > GET /main/push/callback/5279] Handled clientError (404) but cannot output into desired format (NULL): '' | Jan 15 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | > GET /main/push/callback/5279] PushCallbackAction::handleGet: sub verification mode: topic: challenge: lease_seconds: | Jan 15 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | > GET /main/push/callback/5279] action.php - User error '404' on 'pushcallback': | Jan 15 17:30 |
| kaniini | yeah | Jan 15 17:30 |
| kaniini | because the bot just pinged it | Jan 15 17:30 |
| kaniini | [11:28:42] [TechrightsBot-tr] ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279 ) | Jan 15 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | right :) | Jan 15 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | Hm, it is 5279 | Jan 15 17:33 |
| kaniini | ok | Jan 15 17:34 |
| kaniini | added more debug | Jan 15 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | done | Jan 15 17:35 |
| kaniini | do it again please, i wasnt actually tailing the log yet | Jan 15 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | there | Jan 15 17:37 |
| kaniini | 17:37:39.105 [info] Running WebSub verification for 211 (https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini/feed.atom, https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279) | Jan 15 17:37 |
| kaniini | 17:37:39.506 [info] Couldn't verify subscription | Jan 15 17:37 |
| kaniini | 17:37:39.506 [info] "" | Jan 15 17:37 |
| kaniini | humm | Jan 15 17:37 |
| XRevan86 | (10:15:58) XRevan86: kaniini: Does Pleroma reject OStatus re-subscriptions when it thinks there is already a subscription present? | Jan 15 17:38 |
| kaniini | no | Jan 15 17:38 |
| kaniini | it doesn't | Jan 15 17:38 |
| kaniini | that empty string is what i got from YOU | Jan 15 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | oh | Jan 15 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | What exactly is it? | Jan 15 17:41 |
| kaniini | rolling *more* debug, please stand by | Jan 15 17:41 |
| kaniini | ok | Jan 15 17:41 |
| kaniini | tailing log again | Jan 15 17:41 |
| kaniini | send it | Jan 15 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | on the wires, send it on a plane, but send it back to me again. | Jan 15 17:42 |
| kaniini | try it again | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | 17:43:27.285 [info] RESPONSE BODY: "" | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | 17:43:27.285 [info] CHALLENGE: "A0CC3B8502D035DE" | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | 17:43:27.286 [info] Couldn't verify subscription | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | 17:43:27.286 [info] "" | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | yeah | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | you're sending me back blanks | Jan 15 17:43 |
| kaniini | should be sending me back that A0CC3B8502D035DE | Jan 15 17:44 |
| kaniini | or whatever it generates | Jan 15 17:44 |
| kaniini | going to add more debug to be absolutely certain | Jan 15 17:44 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: please do it again | Jan 15 17:45 |
| kaniini | 17:45:57.780 [info] RESPONSE: %Tesla.Env{__client__: %Tesla.Client{adapter: {Tesla.Adapter.Hackney, :call, [[timeout: 10000, recv_timeout: 20000, follow_redirect: true]]}, fun: nil, post: [], pre: []}, __module__: Tesla, body: "", headers: [{"server", "nginx"}, {"date", "Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:45:57 GMT"}, {"content-type", "text/html; charset=UTF-8"}, {"transfer-encoding", "chunked"}, {"connection", "keep-alive"}, {"strict-transport- | Jan 15 17:46 |
| kaniini | security", "max-age=15552000"}, {"vary", "Accept-Encoding,Cookie"}], method: :get, opts: [params: %{"hub.challenge": "74084F3DF876A8AF", "hub.lease_seconds": "2592000", "hub.mode": "subscribe", "hub.topic": "https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini/feed.atom"}, ssl: [server_name_indication: 'loadaverage.org']], query: [], status: 404, url: "https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279"} | Jan 15 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 502 @ https://pleroma.site/users/kaniini/feed.atom"} ) | Jan 15 17:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279"} ) | Jan 15 17:46 | |
| kaniini | you sent me 404 | Jan 15 17:46 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572334.jpg | Jan 15 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: But you're doing GET instead of POST | Jan 15 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | $ curl -X POST -I 'https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279' | Jan 15 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | HTTP/2 200 | Jan 15 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279 ) | Jan 15 18:04 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I think we've found it :) | Jan 15 18:04 |
| kaniini | cool | Jan 15 18:05 |
| kaniini | and i hardened ostatus a bit in Pleroma so it wasn't so bad :) | Jan 15 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Well, it still should send POST apparently… | Jan 15 18:09 |
| kaniini | no | Jan 15 18:10 |
| kaniini | confirmations are GETs | Jan 15 18:10 |
| kaniini | the spec makes that as clear as a W3C spec can be | Jan 15 18:10 |
| kaniini | POSTs are for sending inbound PuSH messages | Jan 15 18:10 |
| kaniini | look, this crap is crap, upgrade to any other software | Jan 15 18:10 |
| kaniini | which uses modern protocols ^_^ | Jan 15 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Can you send both? :P | Jan 15 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | spec and then fallback (actual implementation) | Jan 15 18:12 |
| kaniini | no | Jan 15 18:12 |
| kaniini | because | Jan 15 18:12 |
| kaniini | it works with other GNU Social nodes | Jan 15 18:12 |
| kaniini | it is your node which is broken | Jan 15 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not convinced yet… | Jan 15 18:15 |
| *XRevan86 looks for someone to fire the resub-feed.php script | Jan 15 18:15 | |
| XRevan86 | https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/blob/nightly/plugins/OStatus/classes/FeedSub.php#L257 | Jan 15 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.gnu.io | plugins/OStatus/classes/FeedSub.php · nightly · gnu.io / gnu-social · GitLab | Jan 15 18:15 | |
| XRevan86 | > The hub will later send us a confirmation POST to /main/push/callback. | Jan 15 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | $ curl -X GET -I 'https://indy.im/main/push/callback/8355' | head -n1 | Jan 15 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Jan 15 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | $ curl -X POST -I 'https://indy.im/main/push/callback/8355' | head -n1 | Jan 15 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | HTTP/1.1 200 OK | Jan 15 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://indy.im/main/push/callback/8355 ) | Jan 15 18:21 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: It doesn't seem like loadaverage.org does anything special | Jan 15 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | same with sealion.club/main/push/callback/151 | Jan 15 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | And the ultimate argument: same with rainbowdash.net/main/push/callback/859 (: | Jan 15 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | Turns out RDN uses cloudflare | Jan 15 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | community.highlandarrow.com/main/push/callback/262 – Apache httpd and not nginx, same deal. | Jan 15 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: GNU social and postActiv definitely behave like that and not how Pleroma expects. | Jan 15 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | and StatusNet did too | Jan 15 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | I am not sure why I am the only one complaining. Maybe because I screwed with the subscriptions… | Jan 15 18:29 |
| kaniini | :D :D :D :D | Jan 15 18:33 |
| kaniini | the truth comes out | Jan 15 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I mean resub-feed.php by that | Jan 15 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | nothing insane %) | Jan 15 18:34 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: rainbowdash.net is the ultimate argument for not caring | Jan 15 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | Yeah, I know, I was just kidding… | Jan 15 18:35 |
| kaniini | or as discussed on the private dev channel (not on IRC), "rainbowdash.net is basically a node filled with nazi bronies, who would want to federate with it anyway" | Jan 15 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | and it also works as a time capsule, if that's the behaviour it does, it was probably there forever. | Jan 15 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: There used to be good people there. | Jan 15 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | maybe still are, can't tell with the federation constantly broken | Jan 15 18:36 |
| kaniini | i'm sure there were, but now days it is considered a feature that Pleroma has never succeed in federation with them | Jan 15 18:36 |
| kaniini | well, to some anyway | Jan 15 18:36 |
| kaniini | i am sure the free speech zone people dislike that | Jan 15 18:36 |
| kaniini | fortunately, they don't pay the bills, so i don't really care | Jan 15 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | It's ultimately on their shoulders that they use outdated software even by my standards. | Jan 15 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | And migration to GNU social is performed with no issues or data loss. | Jan 15 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | They probably don't want to deal with their fancy theme possibly breaking. | Jan 15 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/blob/master/plugins/OStatus/actions/pushcallback.php#L31 I think this really is the related code. | Jan 15 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.gnu.io | plugins/OStatus/actions/pushcallback.php · master · gnu.io / gnu-social · GitLab | Jan 15 18:39 | |
| kaniini | i mean i get that is kind of an ulrich drepper position on the matter, but | Jan 15 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | And it's interesting. | Jan 15 18:40 |
| kaniini | - they're literally infested with white supremacists | Jan 15 18:40 |
| kaniini | - basically nobody wants to federate with them anyway (in all development history of the project, there has only ever been one bug about it) | Jan 15 18:40 |
| kaniini | - i have no interest personally in federating with a node filled with skinheads | Jan 15 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | I liked it better when they were annoying for being dirty roleplayers… | Jan 15 18:41 |
| kaniini | i mean | Jan 15 18:41 |
| kaniini | say gab.ai implemented AP | Jan 15 18:41 |
| kaniini | i would probably block them | Jan 15 18:41 |
| kaniini | lol | Jan 15 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | gab's peach is so freezed they banned schestowitz | Jan 15 18:43 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119557 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d992e47e-b627-445d-9c94-6a53db3c8e0e] | Jan 15 18:43 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1710210 | Jan 15 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 15 18:45 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: As I understand it, gab won't tolerate "hate speech" (criticism) towards hatespeechers | Jan 15 18:46 |
| kaniini | haha | Jan 15 18:46 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #VirtualBox 6.0.2 Released with Support for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119554 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5bcb0fb6-6251-4162-be68-88580445baac] | Jan 15 18:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Linux Tools: The Meaning of Dot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119555 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2137c25d-33b2-4a5e-8d57-d6b17331a2cd] | Jan 15 18:47 | |
| XRevan86 | > throw new ClientException(sprintf(_m('Bad hub.topic feed "%s".'),$topic), 404); | Jan 15 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I'll go check if maybe that's what happening | Jan 15 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | it fires 404 for errors, cute | Jan 15 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | to prevent probing? | Jan 15 18:49 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760/960/1060 / RTX 2060 Linux Gaming & Compute Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119556 [https://pleroma.site/objects/795413af-9b7e-4f90-8f6d-b415641bf858] | Jan 15 18:50 | |
| XRevan86 | > GET /main/push/callback/5279] PushCallbackAction::handleGet: sub verification mode: topic: challenge: lease_seconds: | Jan 15 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: This happens when subscribing too | Jan 15 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Apparently it is YOU who sends an entry hub.mode :P | Jan 15 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | * an empty | Jan 15 18:53 |
| kaniini | we do not | Jan 15 18:53 |
| kaniini | anyway this conversation just motivates me to merge the 'feature/delete-ostatus-support' branch | Jan 15 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | okay, no more joking or mocking | Jan 15 18:54 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119558 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9790c881-0985-4238-8424-9c746cea1f4c] | Jan 15 18:54 | |
| XRevan86 | But you really don't, I can see https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279?hub_mode=subscribe in my log | Jan 15 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279?hub_mode=subscribe ) | Jan 15 18:59 | |
| XRevan86 | GET /main/push/callback/5279?hub_mode=subscribe] PushCallbackAction::handleGet: sub verification mode: subscribe topic: challenge: lease_seconds: | Jan 15 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/main/push/callback/5279?hub.topic=https%3A%2F%2Fpleroma.site%2Fusers%2Fkaniini%2Ffeed.atom&hub.mode=subscribe&hub.challenge=12309&hub.lease_seconds=1 | Jan 15 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | NO TITLE | Jan 15 19:03 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: ^ this! | Jan 15 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | Forgive my excitement | Jan 15 19:04 |
| XRevan86 | Now this is definitely figured out | Jan 15 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | Well, except for that your debug log has had more or less the same stuff, yet it appears to be not sent. | Jan 15 19:07 |
| kaniini | looks like maybe it broke when moving to Tesla | Jan 15 19:07 |
| kaniini | because | Jan 15 19:08 |
| kaniini | https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/blob/develop/lib/pleroma/web/websub/websub.ex#L23-28 | Jan 15 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.pleroma.social | lib/pleroma/web/websub/websub.ex · develop · Pleroma / pleroma · GitLab | Jan 15 19:08 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Yeah, I saw that in the message above… | Jan 15 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/commit/3ce16e5 so that's the commit? | Jan 15 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.pleroma.social | init tesla and updated the http requests in Pleroma.Web.Websub (3ce16e5a) · Commits · Pleroma / pleroma · GitLab | Jan 15 19:14 | |
| kaniini | XRevan86: try subscribing to https://pleroma.dereferenced.org/users/kaniini | Jan 15 19:24 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: worked | Jan 15 19:26 |
| kaniini | cool | Jan 15 19:26 |
| kaniini | thanks | Jan 15 19:28 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: So what did you do? :) | Jan 15 19:28 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/merge_requests/671 | Jan 15 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.pleroma.social | Make OStatus Work Again (!671) · Merge Requests · Pleroma / pleroma · GitLab | Jan 15 19:35 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: yay, thanks! | Jan 15 19:35 |
| *XRevan86 got a manual fetcher of all currently broken feeds into cron.hourly/ | Jan 15 19:41 | |
| XRevan86 | will do for now | Jan 15 19:41 |
| kaniini | however the fact that so little fucks were given re: testing OStatus to begin with | Jan 15 19:45 |
| kaniini | should serve as a warning ;) | Jan 15 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://s2.r29static.com/bin/entry/6de/0,0,2000,1050/x,80/1876988/image.jpg | Jan 15 19:51 |
| kaniini | i mean | Jan 15 19:51 |
| kaniini | ostatus | Jan 15 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | oops, wrong one | Jan 15 19:52 |
| kaniini | really needs to die anyway | Jan 15 19:52 |
| kaniini | so yes | Jan 15 19:52 |
| kaniini | this is fine | Jan 15 19:52 |
| kaniini | lolllll | Jan 15 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | http://cdn.betakit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/this-is-fine-1050x640.jpg | Jan 15 19:52 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572192.jpg | Jan 15 20:49 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: 502 | Jan 15 21:26 |
| kaniini | i'm working on it | Jan 15 21:26 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: postgresql was performing poorly, so i appropriately tuned it for NVMe, now i need to run the flakeids migration and bring the box back up ;) | Jan 15 21:33 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572181.jpg | Jan 15 21:41 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: so the postgresql general default settings got you? | Jan 15 21:47 |
| kaniini | well there is a migration from sequential ids to flake ids | Jan 15 21:49 |
| kaniini | it was doing it at about 5MB/s | Jan 15 21:49 |
| kaniini | with my changes it is now doing it at 500MB/s or so it seems | Jan 15 21:49 |
| kaniini | so maybe it will finish this century | Jan 15 21:50 |
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| XRevan86 | The year is 2259. The name of the place is Babylon 5. | Jan 15 21:56 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2043/ | Jan 15 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Boathouses and Houseboats | Jan 15 22:00 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car-boat I think there should be a extra green bit on that xkcd | Jan 15 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Car-boat - Wikipedia | Jan 15 22:02 | |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 15 22:09 |
| MinceR | nice but it doesn't fit into the scheme (which is flawed anyway) | Jan 15 22:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is a car boat but there is the boat car as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGQnWB7EWR8 | Jan 15 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SeaLegs Amphibious Boats - Brought to you by SeaLegsNW - YouTube | Jan 15 22:11 | |
| oiaohm | Welcome to warpness. | Jan 15 22:11 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2044/ | Jan 15 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Sandboxing Cycle | Jan 15 22:26 | |
| oiaohm | Yep that one is a never ending path. | Jan 15 22:48 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17102018 | Jan 15 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 15 22:50 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm starting to suspect you intentionally find every cat that looks like mine does :P | Jan 15 22:59 |
| MinceR | it's accidental | Jan 15 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A bunch in a row | Jan 15 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I canceled the Netflix. With everything that's going on around here, and with Netflix hiking their price again, I can't justify it at this time. There are other ways to watch my shows until Trump's government feels like paying federal workers again. | Jan 15 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sorry I didn't take Trump's shutdown seriously enough when it began in December, because I could have canceled Netflix for this month had I done so at that time. | Jan 15 23:30 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2048/ | Jan 15 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Curve-Fitting | Jan 15 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anything, despite how bad life is getting for our family under Trump, I'm willing to sacrifice more if it means he won't get anything before having to reopen the government. | Jan 15 23:31 |
| MinceR | netfucks is playing a significant role in destroying the web anyway | Jan 15 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://loadaverage.org/notice/15265835 | Jan 15 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alexei Sorokin (xrevan86@loadaverage.org)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Jan-2019 21:20:57 UTC - LoadAverage | Jan 15 23:39 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I'm not sure if it went through, so there :) | Jan 15 23:40 |
| XRevan86 | Fallback IRC-based federation | Jan 15 23:40 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2061/ | Jan 16 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Tectonics Game | Jan 16 00:02 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: trumps business interests are not harmed by USA government being in shutdown. | Jan 16 01:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: so the longer it last the better it is for Trump. | Jan 16 01:32 |
| oiaohm | This is what is wrong with the USA budget method. Australia the next years budget has to be passed 3 months before the prior one runs out or ellections. | Jan 16 01:33 |
| oiaohm | So this standing ground crap is not possible. | Jan 16 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that ultimately there will have to be a compromise. | Jan 16 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not admitting it, but as things get worse, the situation will become untenable. | Jan 16 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If this isn't over within a month, so many people are going to have walked off the job that essential functions are going to fall apart. | Jan 16 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unpaid-federal-workers-food-banks-government-shutdown/story?id=60374327&fbclid=IwAR1-aiS5wmKqyqdmJSoFqiAvL4hPrty7oo9VZ3TtHhQpqkO5tMDGkWDjrow | Jan 16 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Unpaid federal workers get help from food banks during government shutdown - ABC News | Jan 16 01:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "TSA worker John Salinas, right, and his fiancee Ryan Farmer leave the Lakeview Pantry after receiving food in Chicago, Jan. 14, 2019." | Jan 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's in the middle of the article. | Jan 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They used the Reuters picture. Reuters will be publishing one with us being interviewed shortly. | Jan 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're barely keeping the lights on because of this. | Jan 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're down to my income and credit cards and waiting on a loan from the retirement fund. | Jan 16 01:56 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-companies/ really the idea of compromise is a mistake. Trump income pattern he does not have to what you call essential functions can fall apart and trump will still be bringing in income. | Jan 16 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.investopedia.com | The Companies Donald Trump Owns | Jan 16 02:57 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: what/want | Jan 16 02:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: only way really to force the issue on trump is having the balls to start impeachment. | Jan 16 02:58 |
| r_schestowitz | kaniini: if I click the smiley face/emoji thing in plerma the page goes blank | Jan 16 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | kaniini: maybe a bug connected to the migration? | Jan 16 03:34 |
| kaniini | in mastodon ? | Jan 16 03:34 |
| kaniini | idk | Jan 16 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, that mode | Jan 16 03:34 |
| kaniini | i doubt it | Jan 16 03:34 |
| kaniini | but i can ask | Jan 16 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | let me try again | Jan 16 03:34 |
| r_schestowitz | as soon as you click it, dark black page, seems like a new bug | Jan 16 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | And it's reproducible | Jan 16 03:35 |
| r_schestowitz | Then it says, after a while , error 500 | Jan 16 03:35 |
| kaniini | the 500 | Jan 16 03:37 |
| kaniini | is probably because you need to clear notifications | Jan 16 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://github.com/nukeop/nuclear | Jan 16 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - nukeop/nuclear: Popcorn Time for music | Jan 16 03:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/ag82rn/nuclear_a_free_alternative_to_spotify_no_drm_100/ | Jan 16 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Nuclear: A free alternative to Spotify. No DRM. 100% free software. Pulls music from Youtube, Soundcloud and Bandcamp. (Alpha release) : linux | Jan 16 03:37 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts: mintCast, Free as in Get Out, The Optional Option http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119570 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5cc7f5e-e6a4-4803-9088-15b96e00473e] | Jan 16 07:23 | |
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| MinceR | 16 023243 < oiaohm> DaemonFC[m]: so the longer it last the better it is for Trump. | Jan 16 08:38 |
| MinceR | ooh, conflict of interest | Jan 16 08:38 |
| MinceR | but since Cheeto Hitler is rich, nothing will happen about it | Jan 16 08:38 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Conflict of interest is why the USA designed system for budget and the like is highly dangerous. | Jan 16 08:40 |
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| MinceR | https://blog.haschek.at/2018/the-curious-case-of-the-RasPi-in-our-network.html | Jan 16 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.haschek.at | The curious case of the Raspberry Pi in the network closet | Jan 16 14:48 | |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2070/ | Jan 16 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Trig Identities | Jan 16 16:38 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that RasPi one is a classic script attacker not knowing how to conver tracks. | Jan 16 16:47 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 16 16:50 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Testing openSUSE, Manjaro, Debian, Fedora, and Mint Linux distributions on my new laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119584 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a23936af-a185-4c29-b8d3-aee6c410fa9e] | Jan 16 17:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Zipping files on Linux: the many variations and how to use them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119585 #gnu #linux #gzip [https://pleroma.site/objects/3edeb913-3931-49f1-9dd9-148dde5fc4db] | Jan 16 17:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10GbE Linux Networking Performance Between CentOS, Fedora, Clear Linux & Debian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119586 [https://pleroma.site/objects/54c116f5-82f6-4b22-bcad-1c7d43792e08] | Jan 16 17:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LG smart TVs running webOS can now be rooted http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119587 #webos is still around [https://pleroma.site/objects/647488ab-a656-4de1-bbae-2b350f2a1eda] | Jan 16 17:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #DeepinLinux 15.9 Released with Support for Touchscreen Gestures, Faster Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119588 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c215d6e-ec70-49ac-859c-0fdc1e75f020] | Jan 16 17:08 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Essential System Tools: #Krusader – KDE file manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119590 [https://pleroma.site/objects/58cc758a-d7b3-461d-a55d-a95992d05d0e] | Jan 16 17:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 600 days of #postmarketOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119591 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb874de1-c1f5-4032-ab5f-e97d46eeb392] | Jan 16 17:41 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Best Audio Editors For Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119592 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d00fa325-246c-4cfd-ab52-2c89a1c625d3] | Jan 16 17:47 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 15 Best Git Clients for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119593 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75b76770-c7f3-4f08-89f6-7a1e43c3ccf5] | Jan 16 18:07 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: GameHub, Eastshade, Unsung Warriors, Littlewood, Unity, DYSMANTLE, ECON - Elemental Connection, Godly Corp, Emerald Shores and Heroes Ravage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119594 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b58b10b9-a44a-493b-accb-3bb78b960f3e] | Jan 16 18:10 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/agna5n/debian_systemd/maintainer_steps_down_over/ | Jan 16 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian systemd maintainer steps down over developers not fixing breakage : linux | Jan 16 21:01 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120619 | Jan 16 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 16 21:42 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/4UqPjN2 | Jan 16 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My cat Cloudy just turned 1 year this month. - Album on Imgur | Jan 16 22:14 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120518 | Jan 16 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 16 22:43 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CTL Announces $300 Rugged Chromebook Tablet for the Education Market http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119597 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa5383a7-5b62-487f-a272-41a372967aae] | Jan 16 22:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla's Work on a New Browsers Called "Fenix" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119598 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e1e9d6ce-9355-4a02-bff0-16e48f342db2] | Jan 16 23:15 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: BSD: Trident 18.12 and LLVM/Clang Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119599 [https://pleroma.site/objects/93a81352-1aaf-4134-8a26-fe8161c3ea4e] | Jan 16 23:29 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MongoDB "open-source" Server Side Public License rejected http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119601 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a35dd9f8-b8a7-43b8-841e-42f2d479aa6a] | Jan 16 23:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, #ReproducibleBuilds and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119602 #Security [https://pleroma.site/objects/3913bb53-508f-446e-9992-0c08e78d5a17] | Jan 16 23:40 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Flask, Agile, Rust and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119603 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2406b7fa-97a2-42e6-91aa-577ee2b10682] | Jan 16 23:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119604 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2dc5b045-34da-486c-9e75-f832364790b2] | Jan 16 23:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Khronos Group and Graphics Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119605 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9991550-6c55-470a-9376-a2e08b08ec14] | Jan 16 23:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: MAAS, Kubernetes, Chef and OpenStackhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119606 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f209f3bb-b5d4-4557-85d7-2e33a1dfae85] | Jan 16 23:53 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 16/1/2019: Deepin 15.9 Released and Mozilla Fenix http://techrights.org/2019/01/16/mozilla-fenix/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec30dc3a-e721-46ec-8b65-20d9111554fd] | Jan 17 00:04 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The news in Indiana wants to interview me on the air about the shutdown. | Jan 17 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | An over the air TV station in Indianapolis (WISH-TV) that covers most of the state. | Jan 17 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might be a good chance to describe to them what this has been like for us. | Jan 17 01:20 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Jan 17 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | cubexyz: Fedora Core 1 | Jan 17 02:57 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: that udev/ifconfig/systemd network one got a little heated. | Jan 17 05:36 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: Bash, Entangle and Notepad++ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119609 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b749a13c-8218-40e7-96ac-6e2e2644cdd8] | Jan 17 05:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An Absence of Strategy? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119610 [https://pleroma.site/objects/614e319b-507c-4a5d-b9e0-3b7e075eebde] | Jan 17 06:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: GeForce GPUs in Ubuntu, Intel Control Panel For Linux Systems, Mesa 19.0 Deprecates GNU Autotools Build System In Favor Of Meson http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119611 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0fa7f1eb-a458-408c-8698-66fbfc419824] | Jan 17 06:13 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I've been entertaining my Facebook friends. Many are federal workers who are on furlough or are working without pay. | Jan 17 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought it would be funny to do karaoke covers of the Talking Heads while smoking a joint. | Jan 17 06:24 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: gVisor/Go, Rust, and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119613 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e77fbcdf-fd54-4219-8789-1bd2604a01ee] | Jan 17 06:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Steam Play and More From Valve for GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119614 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c47db3b8-9e19-4836-b5a4-88407d7f3db0] | Jan 17 06:41 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/qdxGgpZ | Jan 17 07:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Making Wednesday into Caturday - Album on Imgur | Jan 17 07:04 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812056 | Jan 17 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 17 07:17 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Oracle Blobs, Microsoft Fragmentation and Ripple http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119615 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7fb5e9ed-d73c-4585-aa95-f52f03458f1e] | Jan 17 07:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: SUSECON, Richard Stallman in Montana, ELC Shows in San Diego and Lyon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119616 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90d98695-ece7-48ae-be79-98e777b3b2e8] | Jan 17 07:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Some More Attacks on the #GPL and Latest Compliance Story http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119617 [https://pleroma.site/objects/55a5a354-08d6-41b4-b552-9b3eff499519] | Jan 17 07:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android-x86 8.1 Officially Released, Lets You Run Android 8.1 Oreo on Your PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119618 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9f6fcc8-7683-440f-b6e0-d8e4f0891fb4] | Jan 17 07:35 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120315 | Jan 17 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 17 07:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts: mintCast, The Linux Link Tech Show, and FLOSS Weekly on Tari http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119620 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b83e8f7e-fd9d-48c4-87af-2ca0b6e0208d] | Jan 17 07:45 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19010467 | Jan 17 08:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 17 08:00 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Fedora Still Needs Help Testing The New Zchunk Metadata Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119622 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2a99b785-b50b-4220-950e-70d582aea478] | Jan 17 08:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME Software Package Manager to Feature Better Flatpak Support for GNOME 3.32 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119623 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2fc1e1e4-d0c0-464b-9622-1bca9121b532] | Jan 17 08:05 | |
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| schestowitz | Re: RHT, IBM Merger | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Dr. Schestowitz, | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > Hello. I came across your articles on website techrights.org | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > <http://techrights.org> recently and wanted to add some details to IBM's | Jan 17 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Jan 17 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | > activity in the industry. | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > The New Yorker broke Red Hat's Linux founder Linus Torvald's privacy in | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > September 2018, and was the first publication to publish excerpts from | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > his personal business | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > emails: https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/after-years-of-abusive-e-mails-the-creator-of-linux-steps-aside | Jan 17 09:28 |
| schestowitz | > This led to Torvald's public apology and withdrawal from Linux's | Jan 17 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | After Years of Abusive E-mails, the Creator of Linux Steps Aside | The New Yorker | Jan 17 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | > leadership, sending the RHT stock price on a chaotic | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > path. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/rht | Jan 17 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RHT Stock Price - Red Hat Inc. Stock Quote (U.S.: NYSE) - MarketWatch | Jan 17 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > The New Yorker is owned by Conde Nast Publications | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Publications). | Jan 17 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Advance Publications - Wikipedia | Jan 17 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > Conde Nast has partnered with IBM and their Watson technology since 2016 | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.adweek.com/digital/cond-nast-has-started-using-ibms-watson-find-influencers-brands-173243/ | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > <https://www.adweek.com/digital/cond-nast-has-started-using-ibms-watson-find-influencers-brands-173243/> | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > ; | Jan 17 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Condé Nast Has Started Using IBM’s Watson to Find Influencers for Brands – Adweek | Jan 17 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | > https://landt.co/2016/09/conde-nast-ibm-watson-unearths-brand-influencers/ | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > <https://landt.co/2016/09/conde-nast-ibm-watson-unearths-brand-influencers/> | Jan 17 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-landt.co | AT Condé Nast, IBM Watson Unearths Influencers for Brands - L&T Co. | Jan 17 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > The New Yorker could have been acting on behalf of their partner, IBM, | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > to send RHT into crisis PR mode. The New Yorker's expose could have been | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > deliberate: to drive down stock price in favor of a cheaper IBM takeover. | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | > I thought this may be of interest to you and the staff at techrights. | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | The main issue I have with this assertion is that it was the Torvalds/CoC debacle that caused Red Hat's decline, which I tracked closely (every day I posted financial news picks about them). | Jan 17 09:29 |
| schestowitz | can anyone in the channel give input on this? | Jan 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz | seems a little whacky to me | Jan 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Torvalds is not even Red Hat staff | Jan 17 09:33 |
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| XRevan86 | https://habr.com/en/company/tm/blog/435764/ they actually did it | Jan 17 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hello world! Or Habr in English, v1.0 / ТechMedia corporate blog / Habr | Jan 17 10:51 | |
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| MinceR | harbl.com | Jan 17 11:01 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/k4rKnK4 | Jan 17 11:38 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: there was a issue well before The New Yorker asked Linus any questions. | Jan 17 12:03 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://lwn.net/Articles/764325/ this is what caused Linus to be halled over the coals. | Jan 17 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trying to get STACKLEAK into the kernel [LWN.net] | Jan 17 12:14 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there was multi cases in the STACKLEAK merge where Linus was absusive to Alexander Popov over things that were not documented. So nothing to-do with the Redhat as such. | Jan 17 12:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: if you look at the video the hell hit the fan as of Sep 1, 2018. Major Linux development conference in presentation presenting lead maintainer major miss conduct. | Jan 17 12:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: The New Yorker was really attempting to take credit for something they had no real control on. | Jan 17 12:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that Stackleak presentation Linus was in the room and could have counter argued. | Jan 17 12:23 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/571974.jpg | Jan 17 13:08 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah, it predates it | Jan 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | that is what I told her | Jan 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | the one who claimed a connection | Jan 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | so I only published this in IRC, not the site | Jan 17 14:45 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > Right, /The New Yorker /was the first to publish Torvalds' private | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > business emails, and attacked Torvalds in September 2018 causing Red | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > Hat's decline | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > (https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/after-years-of-abusive-e-mails-the-creator-of-linux-steps-aside). | Jan 17 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | After Years of Abusive E-mails, the Creator of Linux Steps Aside | The New Yorker | Jan 17 19:05 | |
| schestowitz | > /The New Yorker /has been in a partnership with IBM over its Watson | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > software since 2016. It seems to me /The New Yorker /was financially | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | > motivated (by its relationship with IBM) to cause Torvalds' downfall. | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | With respect: 1. Torvalds isn't close to Red Hat | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | 2. Red Hat's financial issues predate the above | Jan 17 19:05 |
| schestowitz | I've asked around fellow techrights folks and they too think it's improbable IBM played the major role; Microsoft or Intel would be more incentivised to throw a fit. | Jan 17 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I managed to work in a few comments while I was on WISH-TV Indianapolis. | Jan 17 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said I think one of the ways that Trump distracts from things like Cohen's upcoming testimony is by keeping the shutdown going. | Jan 17 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mqujOuyJUuosZQXljMhlAGMh > | Jan 17 19:18 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | *what we | Jan 17 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *he does it | Jan 17 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that a lot of people in Indiana, including many who voted for Trump, will suffer when their hours at work get cut, and/or the food stamps stop completely in March, because most jobs being created in the state can't feed and house an individual, much less a family. | Jan 17 19:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the stuff Linux was attacked over was not private business emails they were LKML emails what is a public mailing list. | Jan 17 19:52 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Linux/linus | Jan 17 19:52 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/a4e2D2R.gifv | Jan 17 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jan 17 23:57 | |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2080/ | Jan 18 00:17 |
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| scientes | oiaohm, what about udev/ifconfig/systemd network? | Jan 18 06:46 |
| scientes | <oiaohm> schestowitz: The New Yorker was really attempting to take credit for something they had no real control on. | Jan 18 06:47 |
| scientes | They have been doing that for a while | Jan 18 06:47 |
| scientes | I dont know why they like Linux so much, but they cover it like Popular Science use to cover stuff 100 years ago | Jan 18 06:48 |
| scientes | with fluffy pieces about CoreOS for example | Jan 18 06:48 |
| scientes | and also 4chan | Jan 18 06:48 |
| scientes | New Yorker also had a piece about the coming collapse | Jan 18 06:54 |
| scientes | so they are actually kinda interesting | Jan 18 06:54 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: just a recent issue to come up with where id of network cards should be set. | Jan 18 07:59 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/agna5n/debian_systemd/maintainer_steps_down_over/ this is over a multi way arguement should systemd .link or udev or ifconfig settings of network name be the dominate one. | Jan 18 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian systemd maintainer steps down over developers not fixing breakage : linux | Jan 18 08:15 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: or some other method. | Jan 18 08:15 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2019/01/19/adding-new-dna-letters-make-novel-proteins-possible This is scary. | Jan 18 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.economist.com | Adding new DNA letters make novel proteins possible - Extending the genetic code | Jan 18 10:48 | |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2094/ | Jan 18 11:37 |
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| oiaohm | https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/17/18187338/digital-license-plates-michigan-allowed-rules-legal-price << right how long until someone hacks these to display stupid stuff. | Jan 18 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Digital license plates are now allowed in Michigan - The Verge | Jan 18 16:50 | |
| MinceR | they already did that with plain metal license plates :> | Jan 18 16:51 |
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| MinceR | what's the purpose of legal license plates that can change their display anyway? | Jan 18 16:55 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19010350 | Jan 18 17:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 18 17:20 | |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/dylanbeattie/rockstar/blob/master/examples/fizzbuzz.rock | Jan 18 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rockstar/fizzbuzz.rock at master · dylanbeattie/rockstar · GitHub | Jan 18 17:22 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 'smart' | Jan 18 17:28 |
| schestowitz | spying | Jan 18 17:28 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 18 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | Smart cars = remote steering, breaks, throttle | Jan 18 17:29 |
| schestowitz | give them gimmicks and toys | Jan 18 17:30 |
| schestowitz | they'll get 'smart' cars | Jan 18 17:30 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: viera fell offline | Jan 18 17:36 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19010349 | Jan 18 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 18 17:36 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to pidgin_log | Jan 18 17:36 | |
| schestowitz | -------- Forwarded Message -------- | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Subject: [devuan] Announcing the First Devuan Conference in Amsterdam | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:26:20 +0100 | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | From: Subscribe to receive announcements about Devuan | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | <devuan-announce@lists.dyne.org> | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Reply-To: onelove@devuan.org, devuan-announce@lists.dyne.org | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | To: devuan-announce@lists.dyne.org | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Dear Init Freedom Lovers, | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Once again, the Veteran Unix Admins salute you, and now invite you to | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | celebrate community development and software freedom at the first | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Devuan Conference this coming spring! See http://devuan.org/d1conf | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | # Devuan Conference #1: "THE POWER OF CHOICE" | Jan 18 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devuan.org | Devuan Confeence | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System | Jan 18 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | # Starting: Friday, April 5th 13:00 CEST | Jan 18 17:55 |
| schestowitz | # Ending: Sunday, April 7th 16:00 CEST | Jan 18 17:55 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19010242 | Jan 18 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 18 18:00 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not equipped with an emergency brake? | Jan 18 18:07 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i've lost the context | Jan 18 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | oh wait, apparently I saw that pic not here %) | Jan 18 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | the problem with opening a link in the background and then looking at it later | Jan 18 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | dunno where then | Jan 18 18:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: `what would be wrong is if the digital number plate is used for new generation of point to point speed traps. | Jan 18 18:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: save on cameras radio aquire the number plate from the digital number plate on the way past. | Jan 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Smart cars = remote steering, breaks, throttle | Jan 18 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kia says they have a recall for some cars that introduces a new limp mode that keeps your engine from exploding if it detects a problem condition. I'd rather have an engine that doesn't explode. I guess software is cheaper and just fix the ones where the problem condition happens that go into limp. | Jan 18 19:13 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: Not that simple. We want higher and higher fuel effectiveness. | Jan 18 20:02 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: the closer you get to perfect Stoichiometric the closer you get to perfect explosive. | Jan 18 20:04 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: and perfect Stoichiometric is when you will get you best fuel effectiveness. | Jan 18 20:04 |
| MinceR | there's also a demand for lower emissions, which largely coincide with lower fuel consumption | Jan 18 20:05 |
| MinceR | so government regulations drive less reliable and more dangerous cars | Jan 18 20:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yep trade off. | Jan 18 20:08 |
| oiaohm | We cannot get lower fuel consumption and remain absolutely reliable with current technology. | Jan 18 20:08 |
| MinceR | we could have largely switched to electric if there was sufficient support for it | Jan 18 20:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not just government regulation either. People will buy one car over another just to get lower fuel consume. | Jan 18 20:10 |
| MinceR | not just denial and resistance | Jan 18 20:10 |
| MinceR | and carbon taxes | Jan 18 20:10 |
| oiaohm | Electric is not exactly perfect either. | Jan 18 20:11 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i will buy one car over another just to get better reliability | Jan 18 20:11 |
| MinceR | it's not perfect, but it fits the emission reduction goal far better | Jan 18 20:11 |
| oiaohm | There is emission costs to making the electric. | Jan 18 20:11 |
| oiaohm | Also the electric problem is also recharage time. | Jan 18 20:14 |
| MinceR | recharge time could have been solved with a network of battery pack replacement stations with standardized battery pack format | Jan 18 20:15 |
| MinceR | if they wanted to, that is | Jan 18 20:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bad news that was tried a long time back in prototype with van. | Jan 18 20:16 |
| oiaohm | It did not in fact work out too well. | Jan 18 20:17 |
| MinceR | why? | Jan 18 20:17 |
| oiaohm | You are forgetting a fully charged battery is like playing with a block of explosive. | Jan 18 20:18 |
| MinceR | there are safer batteries | Jan 18 20:18 |
| MinceR | lower energy density, but also lower costs | Jan 18 20:18 |
| oiaohm | You need to keep weight to power volume down for range. | Jan 18 20:19 |
| oiaohm | Opps keep weight down and power volume up for range. | Jan 18 20:19 |
| MinceR | also, mandating particulate filters pretty much only makes the particulates even worse | Jan 18 20:19 |
| oiaohm | This push you in the direction of battery that are either explosive themselves or can do explosive arcing. | Jan 18 20:19 |
| MinceR | aside from damaging cars that aren't driven on highways, of course | Jan 18 20:19 |
| MinceR | there are many cases when range is not that much of an issue, as long as you have proper support for recharging | Jan 18 20:20 |
| oiaohm | Places like Australia were you need 300-600km range is a problem and a half. | Jan 18 20:20 |
| oiaohm | Swapping large car size battery packs with them charged is playing with quite a dangerous item. | Jan 18 20:21 |
| oiaohm | This is where hybrids do fit in you avoid having to replace the battery pack and get the extend range. | Jan 18 20:22 |
| oiaohm | Or if we could work out how to have fuel cells/fuel batteries good enough. | Jan 18 20:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modec the Modec electrics do the removable swapable battery. But they are fairly much as large as you can go and do it safely. | Jan 18 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Modec - Wikipedia | Jan 18 20:25 | |
| oiaohm | t has a 100-mile (160 km) range and a 50 mph (80 km/h) top speed. << That basically the upper limit of the swapable battery path. | Jan 18 20:25 |
| oiaohm | For general in city driving this is good enough. | Jan 18 20:26 |
| MinceR | nice. has any government supported these? | Jan 18 20:27 |
| oiaohm | Unfortunately no. | Jan 18 20:27 |
| oiaohm | But the did work what max safe size for swappable batteries is. | Jan 18 20:28 |
| MinceR | of course | Jan 18 20:28 |
| MinceR | it would have taken more interest and more mental effort than just extra taxes | Jan 18 20:28 |
| oiaohm | Like for stuff you are need 100km/h or faster you cannot do safely with swapable batteries. You are needing too much in amps/volts to be safe. | Jan 18 20:28 |
| MinceR | then again, the people are irredeemably stupid too -- coal rollers, supporters of Cheeto Hitler and the like | Jan 18 20:29 |
| MinceR | what if you have multiple battery units that can be swapped individually? | Jan 18 20:29 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: they tried that. You need to be able to bridge up enough amp/voltages to provide enough torque to get there. | Jan 18 20:31 |
| MinceR | sure, and it can be done with wires | Jan 18 20:31 |
| oiaohm | Multiple battery packs leak to more risk of large miss balance. | Jan 18 20:31 |
| oiaohm | large miss balance results in nasty volatage moving between the packs. So frying the living heck out of even the thickest wiring. | Jan 18 20:32 |
| oiaohm | You know you have a savage problem when 4 inch square coper bar is vaporising. | Jan 18 20:33 |
| MinceR | they can still be replaced together | Jan 18 20:35 |
| MinceR | just physically moved separately | Jan 18 20:35 |
| MinceR | and they can be balanced at the charging station, as the battery banks of Priuses are | Jan 18 20:35 |
| oiaohm | Its when you join all the banks up and get to that massive capactity that you need to run a high speed electric does everything go wrong. | Jan 18 20:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: there is a possible solution. | Jan 18 20:40 |
| oiaohm | https://phys.org/news/2018-09-tenfold-liquid-batteries-electric-car.html flow/liquid battries. | Jan 18 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Tenfold improvement in liquid batteries mean electric car refuelling could take minutes | Jan 18 20:41 | |
| oiaohm | Don't replace the battery pack replace the solution in it avoid having to mess with the possiblly highly dangerous wiring. | Jan 18 20:41 |
| MinceR | nice | Jan 18 20:46 |
| MinceR | kind of similar to refueling combustible liquid fuels | Jan 18 20:47 |
| oiaohm | It if we can get it to work. | Jan 18 20:58 |
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| MinceR | another thing that could have been done to fight global warming was to reduce overpopulation | Jan 18 21:21 |
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| XRevan86 | Exile your children to Russia, the place with the population deficit. | Jan 18 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | except Moscow and St. Petersburg, don't exile there. | Jan 18 21:23 |
| MinceR | that's unusually cruel | Jan 18 21:29 |
| MinceR | better to prevent or abort them | Jan 18 21:30 |
| MinceR | https://boingboing.net/2019/01/16/slacks-new-logo-is-a-playdoh.html | Jan 18 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Slack's new logo is a penis swastika / Boing Boing | Jan 18 21:32 | |
| XRevan86 | And there's risk they'll immigrate anyway. | Jan 18 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | http://larrysanger.org/2019/01/how-and-why-i-transitioned-to-linux-how-you-can-too/ | Jan 18 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-larrysanger.org | How and why I transitioned to Linux—how you can, too – Larry Sanger Blog | Jan 18 22:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wikipedia co-founder | Jan 18 22:13 |
| MinceR | they'll need to get ready to transition to BSD if things keep going this way :> | Jan 18 22:18 |
| MinceR | salting pigeons is forbidden >> https://ircz.de/p/19010219 | Jan 18 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 18 22:28 | |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: fixed | Jan 18 22:34 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: going to move providers | Jan 18 22:34 |
| kaniini | actually i will convert that VPS to a container and run it on my own hardware | Jan 18 22:37 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ihdAyHQ.gifv | Jan 18 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jan 18 22:42 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/y92PlOw | Jan 18 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Abandoned Britain - Album on Imgur | Jan 18 22:52 | |
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| kaniini | and done | Jan 18 22:52 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18123118 | Jan 18 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 18 23:22 | |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1723 | Jan 19 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 04/19/2018 | Jan 19 00:00 | |
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| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1724 | Jan 19 00:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 04/24/2018 | Jan 19 00:28 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: cheers, mate. | Jan 19 00:42 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: don't know if you notice Researcher- (iana@64.140.159.183) has left this server (K-Lined). has had this happen at least twice now by my logs. Hopefully they are not a spammer hangging out here. | Jan 19 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: I used to think it was a spy | Jan 19 08:26 |
| schestowitz | esp. when we got some EPO whistleblower sending us material | Jan 19 08:27 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: whistleblowers normally don't end up getting self k-line that often. | Jan 19 08:34 |
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| XRevan86 | > https://maketecheasier.com/nginx-vs-apache (https://pleroma.site/notice/9ex5A43tO4xGInJP3g) | Jan 19 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Nginx vs Apache: Which Serves You Best in 2019? - Make Tech Easier | Jan 19 12:38 | |
| XRevan86 | Ugh, what a terrible article. | Jan 19 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | It benchmarks nginx and Apache httpd through… two random websites. | Jan 19 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | It points out .htaccess, that nginx doesn't support it, not mentioning *why* nginx doesn't support it – because it's a performance overhead. | Jan 19 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | > in general, use of .htaccess files should be avoided when possible | Jan 19 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | That's from https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html | Jan 19 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-httpd.apache.org | Apache HTTP Server Tutorial: .htaccess files - Apache HTTP Server Version 2.4 | Jan 19 12:42 | |
| XRevan86 | I do look for a good such article, that covers modern Apache, how they deal with concurrency and such :) | Jan 19 12:44 |
| XRevan86 | But I do suspect that it's still threading to the death. | Jan 19 12:44 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: .htaaccess does annoy me. Like apache has not really gone the extra step of killing it of making a .htaaccess to server config conversion. | Jan 19 13:30 |
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| XRevan86 | oiaohm: They do mention explicitly that it should not be used unless | Jan 19 13:59 |
| XRevan86 | > You should avoid using .htaccess files completely if you have access to httpd main server config file. Using .htaccess files slows down your Apache http server. Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block, as it will have the same effect with better performance. | Jan 19 13:59 |
| XRevan86 | I guess they are unwilling to screw those who rely on it by removing it completely. | Jan 19 14:01 |
| XRevan86 | > Flexibility: A web server should be flexible enough to allow customizations. Apache does it quite well using .htaccess tools, which Nginx does not support. <..> Apache wins this round. | Jan 19 14:05 |
| XRevan86 | But the article has another perspective %) | Jan 19 14:05 |
| XRevan86 | And nginx has modules too, albeit most are linked-in, which isn't that flexible. | Jan 19 14:06 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: php programs will ship with set .htaaccess stuff. Having some processing that would read the .htaaccess files and make apache/nginx configuration files would be way of killing this off. | Jan 19 14:07 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Ah, indeed. | Jan 19 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: nginx configuration is usually supplied already though ;). | Jan 19 14:10 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: not all cases. | Jan 19 14:10 |
| XRevan86 | https://winginx.com/en/htaccess | Jan 19 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winginx.com | htaccess to nginx converter | Jan 19 14:11 | |
| *XRevan86 did a search for "htaccess nginx location converter". | Jan 19 14:12 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I was more thinking this should be tool that comes with the http/https servers. | Jan 19 14:13 |
| oiaohm | Like if it came with apache after awhile they could simple disable .htaccess processing at runtime. | Jan 19 14:13 |
| oiaohm | Could have htaaccess checked for changes on start up and converted. | Jan 19 14:14 |
| oiaohm | If there are differences. | Jan 19 14:14 |
| oiaohm | This would kill off the performance problem while keeping the legacy support. | Jan 19 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | Hm, how do they check for .htaccess BTW? | Jan 19 14:14 |
| XRevan86 | this reminds me that there's such a simple efficient thing as… inodes | Jan 19 14:15 |
| XRevan86 | or rather, inotify | Jan 19 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | H2O seems like a promising HTTP server, but the configuration is ugh | Jan 19 14:35 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Get free programs to edit photos, send email and more http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119713 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c7dfd41d-be2b-4b8c-89e8-47b617149183] | Jan 19 14:56 | |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i've never seen any messages from them | Jan 19 14:59 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Boosting Open Science Hardware in an academic context: opportunities and challenges http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119714 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09fcda41-93f5-424e-b1e4-4a27f3737381] | Jan 19 14:59 | |
| MinceR | also, sometimes ircd-s k-line for the stupidest things | Jan 19 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: I did t he conversion manually some years ago | Jan 19 15:14 |
| schestowitz | For FSA UK | Jan 19 15:14 |
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| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1738 | Jan 19 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 05/17/2018 | Jan 19 15:24 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812107 | Jan 19 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 19 15:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119715 [https://pleroma.site/objects/86def855-d211-4667-89be-10f4a75d7b88] | Jan 19 16:07 | |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1748 | Jan 19 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 05/29/2018 | Jan 19 16:16 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 19/1/2019: Wikipedia Cofounder Moves to GNU/Linux, Wine 4.0 RC7 Released, Godot 3.1 Beta 2, NomadBSD 1.2 RC1 http://techrights.org/2019/01/19/wine-4-0-rc7-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/19c9e20d-dbd1-4efe-bbc2-ee6d92d8589a] | Jan 19 16:19 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: To system-wide Apache httpd, to nginx or to H2O / Caddy? :) | Jan 19 16:25 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1770 | Jan 19 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 07/10/2018 | Jan 19 16:45 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572615.jpg | Jan 19 18:31 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Orange Pi 3 SBC arrives with Allwinner H6 and mini-PCIe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119716 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c24e4895-8fb2-4157-a96a-70a98dfc464b] | Jan 19 18:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Should You Run Linux Apps on Your Chromebook? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119717 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2bb6f06a-228e-4c17-afca-4d649f03305a] | Jan 19 18:36 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMDGPU-PRO 18.50 vs. ROCm 2.0 OpenCL Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119718 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d91f5c6f-6158-4597-8d1a-3263d257bda6] | Jan 19 18:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/119719 [https://pleroma.site/objects/33c87e42-dbe7-49ba-a9da-3743bbc63812] | Jan 19 18:39 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572474.jpg | Jan 19 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yes, that is actually correct. | Jan 19 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | except in the English way of pronunciation it sounds different | Jan 19 18:59 |
| MinceR | mangling latin pronunciation is common anyway | Jan 19 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | even *standard* | Jan 19 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | πι → pi | Jan 19 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | I am yet to find an English speaker who says it as "pee" | Jan 19 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | Even though that's literally how Greeks and Romans have always said it. | Jan 19 19:04 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120959 | Jan 19 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 19 20:06 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572525.jpg | Jan 19 20:14 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572739.jpg | Jan 19 20:39 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/572663.png | Jan 19 21:14 |
| oiaohm | https://zeuxcg.org/2019/01/17/is-c-fast/ This is a good read. | Jan 19 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zeuxcg.org - Is C++ fast? | Jan 19 21:18 | |
| MinceR | >the adverse behavior of MSVC STL in debug mode was one of the forcing functions to remove all STL use from meshoptimizer | Jan 19 21:21 |
| MinceR | stop using shitty compilers, problem solved | Jan 19 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I was going to quote that | Jan 19 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | Also "debug mode" | Jan 19 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | > unoptimised builds | Jan 19 21:22 |
| XRevan86 | > sped up compilation | Jan 19 21:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's plenty of wtfs in there | Jan 19 21:23 |
| MinceR | do extra handwork to speed up compilation | Jan 19 21:23 |
| MinceR | i doubt even a msvc user's time is less expensive than the computer's... | Jan 19 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | So what *actually* happened is they went from 572 ms to 321 ms | Jan 19 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | everything else is clutter | Jan 19 21:25 |
| MinceR | also, apparently the author is unaware that they could write their own data structures using C++ features and then they could do things like specify what data type they want to store in there | Jan 19 21:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: even doing that in C++ does have some serous overhead. | Jan 19 21:27 |
| MinceR | yeah, in compile time | Jan 19 21:27 |
| oiaohm | vtables is not free. | Jan 19 21:27 |
| oiaohm | Even at runtime. | Jan 19 21:27 |
| MinceR | no vtables are necessary for templates | Jan 19 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | The author also forgot about "noexcept", but since it's C++98… | Jan 19 21:27 |
| oiaohm | You have to watch templates carefully. Class names and structure can in some compliers end up creating vtable crap behind your back. | Jan 19 21:28 |
| MinceR | >The largest increase in runtime performance is on MSVC, we got 1.5x faster | Jan 19 21:29 |
| MinceR | again arguing that the irrelevant pile of shit got faster | Jan 19 21:29 |
| MinceR | who cares? | Jan 19 21:29 |
| MinceR | "oh wow, the shittiest compiler world ships with shitty data structure implementations, who would have guessed" | Jan 19 21:29 |
| MinceR | plus he could have just used the SGI STL instead of what msvc ships with | Jan 19 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | from their numbers MSVC also performed better than GCC with pure C | Jan 19 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | is this fake? :P | Jan 19 21:30 |
| MinceR | could be | Jan 19 21:30 |
| MinceR | was it even optimized? | Jan 19 21:30 |
| MinceR | >ricing unoptimized performance | Jan 19 21:30 |
| oiaohm | I would not say fake I have seen startup cost differents between MSVC and Gcc. | Jan 19 21:31 |
| MinceR | we care so much about how fast it is when we don't care about how fast it is! | Jan 19 21:31 |
| MinceR | on windows? | Jan 19 21:31 |
| oiaohm | Gcc crt0 files are not the best. | Jan 19 21:31 |
| oiaohm | on any platform. | Jan 19 21:31 |
| XRevan86 | * from their numbers MSVC also performed better than GCC/Clang with pure C | Jan 19 21:32 |
| oiaohm | MSVC is better at cleaning out features not used in start up object than gcc is. | Jan 19 21:32 |
| oiaohm | when you are talking that number of ms difference that could be all it is. | Jan 19 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I do care about code compatibility, but this is too much | Jan 19 21:33 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1710096 | Jan 19 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 19 21:34 | |
| XRevan86 | Unoptimised code is slightly slower – whooptie-doo | Jan 19 21:35 |
| MinceR | >author is surprised that the sort provided by the standard is an exact sort, not the approximate one best fitting his particular algorithm | Jan 19 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | I've heard that unoptimised compilation is intentionally not optimised | Jan 19 21:38 |
| MinceR | shocking | Jan 19 21:38 |
| MinceR | >let's "optimize" compile time by doing its work by hand | Jan 19 21:45 |
| MinceR | fucking genius | Jan 19 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | Why didn't he check disc space consumption? C++ has overhead in that department too. | Jan 19 21:45 |
| MinceR | maybe he should just rewrite the whole thing in assembly and be impressed by compile times | Jan 19 21:45 |
| MinceR | or, better yet, compile the original c++ code to .S and pretend that "compilation" is turning that into .o | Jan 19 21:46 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18120530 | Jan 19 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 19 22:02 | |
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| XRevan86 | ( https://pleroma.soykaf.com/notice/24227365 ) | Jan 19 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://glitch.social/@gcupc/101443285742361401 Is today music reference day? | Jan 19 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-glitch.social | GCU Prosthetic Conscience ✴️: "Rob's in the garden doing some kind of craft work…" - G L I T C H | Jan 19 22:21 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/CwRERZT | Jan 19 22:26 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/q6N0skr | Jan 19 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A random Finland-themed dump from the stuff I've got saved on my computer - Album on Imgur | Jan 19 23:30 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/BjC813I | Jan 19 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looted Warhammer 40k memes - Album on Imgur | Jan 19 23:35 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://pleroma.site/notice/9eyCz9YNcehwwMq9ku whom are you talking about there? | Jan 19 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Reading *the other thread* I have learnt that democracy and diversity are the most Nazi things imaginable. Very educational. | Jan 19 23:56 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/TpuzfKF.jpg | Jan 19 23:57 |
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