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sebsebsebhiMar 18 02:07
sebsebsebMinceR: AppleMar 18 02:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: NovellMar 18 02:08
sebsebsebcubelog:  Fedora Core 1Mar 18 02:08
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.1-rc1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121821 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1b0e7ff6-e292-42dd-a4c7-7ae074c7b39f]Mar 18 07:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Solus 4 Fortitude Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121822 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7031353e-adc6-4a98-9080-65927b74aac0]Mar 18 07:54
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy.Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> They didn't start using CRLF to make trouble for UNIX and itsMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> descendants. CRLF was used by Teletype machines, and that was inheritedMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> by some minicomputers, and that was inherited by MS-DOS, and that wasMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> inherited by Windows, in all cases for compatibility with historicalMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> precedent.Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> Commodore and other some other minicomputers used CR, and that wasMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> inherited by Apple.Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> The key thing to note here is that Apple made the switch from CR to LFMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> "midstream" without horrible repercussions, and Microsoft could make theMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> switch from CRLF to LF if it wanted to. It could also switch from itsMar 18 08:01
schestowitz> stupid encoding to UTF-8 if it wanted to.Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz> I blame laziness, not malice.Mar 18 08:01
schestowitzI used to spend hours, wasted them even, due to this incompatibility that Microsoft could fix decades ago (but lacked the incentive to). I think it is similar to its poor handling of MBRs. Sometimes the issues just work in Microsoft's favour, like in AARD.Mar 18 08:01
MinceRi doubt commodore ever made minicomputersMar 18 08:04
MinceRi doubt the author even knows what minicomputers areMar 18 08:04
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schestowitz[02:08] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: NovellMar 18 08:15
schestowitzNovell is dead, seb (he's gone)Mar 18 08:15
schestowitzMinceR: he's a uni profMar 18 08:16
schestowitzthe aboveMar 18 08:16
schestowitzname cut out for privacyMar 18 08:16
schestowitz[22:56] <MinceR> (audio) https://imgur.com/gallery/NRburKhMar 18 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is this what you want, you filthy animals? - Album on ImgurMar 18 08:17
schestowitzThe person whose hand it is needs a new hobbyMar 18 08:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: Kubuntu versus KDE neon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121826 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9f46b705-c7f4-4933-a59b-4c6d56047b0b]Mar 18 10:05
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XRevan86cubexyz: I wonder if you heard about https://man.openbsd.org/httpd.8Mar 18 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-man.openbsd.org | httpd(8) - OpenBSD manual pagesMar 18 12:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Second Earth, Two Point Hospital, SDL2, Battle for Wesnoth, Linux Gaming News Punch, GameHub, Football Story, RPCS3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121828 [https://pleroma.site/objects/71beca30-4480-497b-85d9-f1863edd8454]Mar 18 14:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Setting up Continuous Integration With GitLab, Jenkins and SonarQube http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121827 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2adfb1e6-5777-43eb-9d85-fb0322fee08f]Mar 18 14:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS: On the Road to Nowhere http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121829 @bbyfield on @fossforce [https://pleroma.site/objects/4a3f4ab1-cc5a-43f7-afd2-baec5c59bebc]Mar 18 14:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Best 15 Fractal Software for Linux For Beginners and Professionals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121830 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e296a24a-d5db-4e75-9a8e-5dc68d0c35b8]Mar 18 14:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 5 Reasons Why You Should Use Fedora Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121833 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d77ac6f3-a8cc-4016-bb37-5e28d85ae920]Mar 18 15:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 29 Linux Gaming Report: The Nvidia, Radeon And Steam User Experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121834 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92fa5dff-6a34-4e66-ac9e-196d1656b903]Mar 18 15:11
schestowitzXRevan86: yesMar 18 15:14
schestowitznot sure about cubexyzMar 18 15:14
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XRevan86schestowitz: It seems to be very spartan, even FastCGI is like an achievement, but it has a rather KISS architecture, so I figured cubexyz would be interested :)Mar 18 15:22
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: RQuantLib, Python and Rust http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121838 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dc1c91c5-8619-463b-a3b0-73c14ffe3a89]Mar 18 15:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Releases Important Linux Kernel Patch for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Update Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121837 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3bc05cbe-0d69-4ea9-9e35-b9978fe78de5]Mar 18 15:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Cult of the Dead Cow, Huawei, and LastPass http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121839 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0b116a1e-c316-45ae-8ba9-95492abbda8c]Mar 18 15:45
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589478.jpgMar 18 15:56
XRevan86The Klishas-delicious lawMar 18 15:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Slimbook & Kubuntu - Combat Report 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121840 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4cfcde23-a6a1-40d3-ad8e-a3848880489c]Mar 18 16:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Screencasts: Xubuntu 18.04.2, Ubuntu MATE, and Rosa Fresh 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121842 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f125928a-ca92-462f-8522-62fbfb62119e]Mar 18 16:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: NVIDIA, Nouveau and Vulkan http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121843 [https://pleroma.site/objects/488f2c2e-7025-4322-993b-77cdf21162dd]Mar 18 16:22
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Forbes Says The Raspberry Pi Is Big Business http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121844 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a3b315f-1196-4340-9471-6ab1bee19aef]Mar 18 16:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Geary 3.32 Released with New App Icon, GNOME 3.32 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121845 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e82a241d-adec-48b2-b1f2-4d0f1db43e4f]Mar 18 16:54
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/PTJbGHT.gifvMar 18 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 18 17:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Says Ubuntu 14.04 Extended Security Maintenance Begins April 25, 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121846 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a412a22b-a1da-456b-806a-688cc9327cf0]Mar 18 17:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Brian_Fox/status/1107695950829621248Mar 18 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Brian_Fox: @schestowitz Wow really? The most of this article isn’t even from Sonatype. And your assertions are false as usual,… https://t.co/L790bEmXmIMar 18 17:34
schestowitz"Wow really? The most of this article isn’t even from Sonatype. And your assertions are false as usual, but that hasn’t stopped you before."Mar 18 17:34
schestowitzSonatype mentioned twice, along with that other parasite, #snykMar 18 17:34
schestowitzThey and you keep cheering for the company that attacks FOSS the most, even in cases of overt entryism  https://blog.sonatype.com/microsoft-and-github-open-sources-future-is-brighter-than-everMar 18 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sonatype.com | Microsoft and Github: Open source’s future is brighter than everMar 18 17:36
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz Geary could probably be the default GNOME mail app.Mar 18 17:46
DaemonFC[m]They should demote Evolution to an extra. Not everyone needs it.Mar 18 17:47
oiaohmweb version of skype blocking firefox.Mar 18 17:49
oiaohmWelcome to browser war what number now.Mar 18 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Is it like Facebook where you spoof the UA for that site and video chats work in Firefox again?Mar 18 17:53
oiaohmIts not like it a supprise same stunt was played when IE was domiante.Mar 18 17:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yeah, I agreeMar 18 18:04
DaemonFC[m]I found a crasher in gjs and got a backtrace out of it.Mar 18 18:06
DaemonFC[m]It's causing the Weather applet to malfunction and crash if you try using itMar 18 18:06
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XRevan86http://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/nothing-to-sayMar 18 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.poorlydrawnlines.com | Poorly Drawn Lines – Nothing to SayMar 18 19:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Hiring a Vice President From Facebook, Homepage for the JavaScript Specification and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121850 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fcc97c3f-e366-429c-a31a-9831824d1b06]Mar 18 19:18
MinceRhttps://github.com/mpgn/CVE-2019-5418Mar 18 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mpgn/CVE-2019-5418: CVE-2019-5418 - File Content Disclosure on RailsMar 18 20:08
schestowitzmsft link :-)Mar 18 20:10
MinceRyeah :(Mar 18 20:10
schestowitzhttps://github.com/mpgnMar 18 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mpgn_x64Mar 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mpgn (Martial Puygrenier) · GitHubMar 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | mpgn (@mpgn_x64) on TwitterMar 18 20:11
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oiaohmhttps://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2019/03/15/mitre-names-the-document-foundation-as-a-cve-numbering-authority-cna/  This is interestingMar 18 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | MITRE names The Document Foundation as a CVE Numbering Authority (CNA) - The Document Foundation BlogMar 18 20:47
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589613.jpgMar 18 21:00
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589420.jpgMar 18 21:04
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MATE 1.22 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121852 #gnome #gnu #linux #gtk [https://pleroma.site/objects/1291cb68-9f0b-4964-8e58-09bdea995ee1]Mar 18 21:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: X4: Foundations, Spoxel, Atari VCS and DOSBox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121853 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ea5c2be1-5e51-477f-8343-76be0475214d]Mar 18 21:37
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589374.jpgMar 18 21:41
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Devices: Orchard Audio, Seco and Ubuntu Core http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121855 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d6a467b-9a05-4570-8225-a9c5abb8c292]Mar 18 21:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Update, User Account Review, Fear-Spreading and IPFire 2.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121856 [https://pleroma.site/objects/58ac4c01-2283-420b-861c-7caaaf089697]Mar 18 21:53
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Firefox Wayland By Default Diverted To Fedora 31 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121858 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6fe0f19d-d2ad-4da9-b7c2-c9aec2aaa556]Mar 18 22:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: GNU/Linux on ARM, GNU World Order and Linux Action News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121859 [https://pleroma.site/objects/121d4642-1671-46b8-98c7-9735a316109f]Mar 18 22:23
schestowitzoiaohm: how so?Mar 18 22:31
schestowitzI saw it at the timeMar 18 22:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121860 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e5320696-23d0-4b5b-a198-ff1071a4cef1]Mar 18 22:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 18/3/2019: Solus 4, Linux 5.1 RC1, Mesa 18.3.5, OSI Individual Member Election Won by Microsoft http://techrights.org/2019/03/18/solus-4-linux-5-1-rc1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/4eb799f7-476f-4681-83ec-c4ea2eefb7ae]Mar 18 22:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Source Doesn’t Make Money Because It Isn’t Designed To Make Money http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121861 [https://pleroma.site/objects/936165d7-4dc1-46c5-9c67-dc6748cf187f]Mar 18 22:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python 3.4.10 and Python 3.5.7 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121862 [https://pleroma.site/objects/48f77717-186e-46e3-81ef-ba5ce97986e6]Mar 18 23:01
cubexyzwell, finally upgraded the slack box to 4 gigsMar 19 00:21
cubexyz2 gigs of ram just doesn't work too well with modern firefoxMar 19 00:22
cubexyzalso not fun.... DDR2 is considered obsolete and no one stocks itMar 19 00:24
cubexyzjust for fun I told the computer people my amiga 500 still worksMar 19 00:25
cubexyzI gather the pinout and everything is different with DDR4Mar 19 00:25
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oiaohmschestowitz: why that CVE one was interesting is it quite rare for open source projects to get CNA themselves.Mar 19 04:36
oiaohmcubexyz: its not just DDR2   First generation DDR3 the 2Gbit (Gigabit) density is no longer in manufacture either.Mar 19 04:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Rugged computers run Linux on Jetson TX2 and Xavier http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121863 #aitech #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/4ec2bfd0-0bd9-4b82-97cd-6278ad82ccf3]Mar 19 04:44
oiaohmcubexyz: due to ram short fall a lot of factories that were producing older ram have been converted to newer ram types.Mar 19 04:45
oiaohmcubexyz: and that been a one way conversion.Mar 19 04:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #NVIDIA Jetson Nano: A Feature-Packed Arm Developer Kit For $99 USD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121864 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d8b08df9-209d-4555-a699-5a99786f5b23]Mar 19 04:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/823f7a20-2c70-4a8f-9420-c520c6ccc1b9]Mar 19 04:47
schestowitz[00:21] <cubexyz> well, finally upgraded the slack box to 4 gigsMar 19 05:03
schestowitzneed to say sllackwareMar 19 05:03
schestowitzor slaxMar 19 05:03
schestowitz"slack" means somethign else nowMar 19 05:03
schestowitzcubexyz: see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121351Mar 19 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slack: It Used to Be a GNU/Linux Distro, Now It's Surveillance Capitalism | Tux MachinesMar 19 05:04
MinceRhttps://subgenius.fandom.com/wiki/SlackMar 19 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-subgenius.fandom.com | Slack | SubGenius Wikia Clench | FANDOM powered by WikiaMar 19 06:45
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589280.jpgMar 19 07:31
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MinceR(audio) https://imgur.com/t/cat/A3eHYiGMar 19 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tom.. Cruise - Album on ImgurMar 19 07:41
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schestowitz[06:45] <MinceR> https://subgenius.fandom.com/wiki/SlackMar 19 09:28
schestowitzMinceR: seems like nonsenseMar 19 09:28
schestowitzmakes no senseMar 19 09:28
schestowitzmaybe that's the intended effectMar 19 09:29
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MinceRschestowitz: it's something like a parody religionMar 19 12:12
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MinceRschestowitz: anyway, afaik the Slack in Slackware comes from the Church of the SubGenius (hence the pipe in some of the associated imagery)Mar 19 12:29
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schestowitzMinceR: I see...Mar 19 14:36
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XRevan86I've just realised Jake from ST:DS9 is just like Wesley from ST:TNG, except he's not annoying in the slightest!Mar 19 17:35
XRevan86what kind of trickery is thisMar 19 17:35
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oiaohmXRevan86: lasy script writing.   Not most lazy like just rewriting sections of shakespear.Mar 19 17:47
XRevan86oiaohm: Are you telling me, Shakespear invented Wesley Crusher?Mar 19 17:48
oiaohmXRevan86: no particular episodes of Startrek are just rewritten Shakespeare and sometimes not that much rewritten https://www.thoughtco.com/most-shakespearean-moments-on-star-trek-3125859.Mar 19 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thoughtco.com | The 7 Most Shakespearean Moments on "Star Trek"Mar 19 17:51
oiaohmXRevan86: http://www.startrek.com/article/shakespeare-trek-from-tos-to-discovery  Yes some of the plays of shakespeare are done multi times as well.Mar 19 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.startrek.com | Shakespeare & Trek from TOS to DiscoveryMar 19 17:52
XRevan86oiaohm: In this list it's either TOS or just references to ShakespeareMar 19 17:53
XRevan86the former oneMar 19 17:53
oiaohmXRevan86: Lot of different chars in startrek are part based off different chars out of Shakespeare plays as well.   I don't know if Wesley Crusher is one of them.Mar 19 17:54
oiaohmXRevan86: lets just say the Star Trek script writers are not always that inventive they recycle prior works a lot.Mar 19 17:56
XRevan86oiaohm: That doesn't seem particularily surprising.Mar 19 17:57
oiaohmWhen they are this lazy with recycling they also recycle series to series.  Like mr spoke, command data vs 7of9   You will notice char profile recycling between those as well.Mar 19 17:59
oiaohmOf course this does not mean you don't enjoy the show.  Just pays not to look to closely at the char design.Mar 19 18:00
oiaohmJake actor of ST;DS9 did way better with the char profile than Wesley Crusher out of ST:TNG.Mar 19 18:01
oiaohmWesleys lines were not any worse his delivery was very crap.Mar 19 18:02
XRevan86oiaohm: Yes, I think it's the person, not the character, that's no annoying.Mar 19 18:03
XRevan86s/no/so/Mar 19 18:03
oiaohmThe big thing is notice how often Wesley is like standing there like a rabbit stalled in spot lights waiting for line instead of making line naturally blend into the action.Mar 19 18:04
oiaohmSo his lines are always jarring. Mar 19 18:04
XRevan86In the last season of TNG there was a closure episode with WesleyMar 19 18:04
oiaohmEven in that episode he still does not deliver one line in the flow with the other actors.Mar 19 18:05
XRevan86and it was extremely weird, but what impressed me the most is that after the stressful years of training in the Academy, Wesley came out… out of shape.Mar 19 18:05
XRevan86it's like he had a deskjob and were eating doughnuts for a yearMar 19 18:05
oiaohmJake out of deep space 9 had no training by profile and was far better at most things.Mar 19 18:06
oiaohmWesley in ST:TNG was really bad casting.Mar 19 18:06
XRevan86And so this Wesley, so acted a lazy bum and looked the part, went to roam other planes of existenceMar 19 18:07
XRevan86because he's so specialMar 19 18:07
gde33the idea was that the existing audience would put up with anything. They added things like wesley and janeway to appeal to a larger audience. The later didn't work out so bad.Mar 19 18:07
XRevan86Who's Janeway?Mar 19 18:08
oiaohmgde33: janeway was a decent actor who could present a line.  Mar 19 18:09
XRevan86This closure annoyed me so much, because they've managed to leave Wesley as an even more annoying character than ever.Mar 19 18:09
oiaohmXRevan86: Star Trek: Voyager is JanewayMar 19 18:09
oiaohmXRevan86: the caption of that series.Mar 19 18:09
gde33oiaohm: that wasn't guranteed in advance ofcMar 19 18:09
oiaohmgde33: no the actor behind Janeway had proper stage experence first. Mar 19 18:10
gde33the point was that she made the series more appealing to people currently not watchingMar 19 18:10
XRevan86gde33: how?Mar 19 18:11
gde33they do that with most if not all movie/series Mar 19 18:11
XRevan86I haven't seen Voyager. What's so particularily appealing about her?Mar 19 18:12
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gde33for you probably nothingMar 19 18:13
gde33but appealing to a larger audience: if one would make say an entire series on ferenginar a sub section of the viewers would find it fantasticMar 19 18:14
gde33same if you would do one on vulkan or one with nothing but klingons in itMar 19 18:14
oiaohmXRevan86: jake out of deep space 9 back ground as actor was doing  "Econ and Me, which teaches kids economics"  That what you call a hard sell as a actor.Mar 19 18:16
oiaohmXRevan86: that before having todo deep space 9.Mar 19 18:16
oiaohmReally Wesley actor had no real teeth cutting roles before TNG and it shows badly.Mar 19 18:17
XRevan86Seems like his career didn't kick off after DS9…Mar 19 18:17
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirroc_LoftonMar 19 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cirroc Lofton - WikipediaMar 19 18:18
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oiaohmXRevan86: its the nightmare of doing a role well.Mar 19 18:19
oiaohmXRevan86: you end up type cast with it.Mar 19 18:19
gde33https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Hunter was also funnyMar 19 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jeffrey Hunter - WikipediaMar 19 18:20
gde33Hunter declined to film a second Star Trek pilot requested by NBC in 1965Mar 19 18:20
XRevan86gde33: oopsie?Mar 19 18:21
XRevan86Oh, and he died at the age of 42Mar 19 18:22
oiaohmIts been very profitable over the years to turn down star trek roles.Mar 19 18:22
XRevan86that's depressingMar 19 18:22
oiaohmBecause of how heavily the script writers type cast.Mar 19 18:23
oiaohmIn that series.Mar 19 18:23
oiaohmThere are a lot of other series that are far better options as well.Mar 19 18:23
oiaohmXRevan86: low grade recycling script writing basically comes back and bites you.    Its like with soap opera tv shows you see char being brought back from the dead a lot because people know they are heavily type cast so lots of new actors will not come in.Mar 19 18:24
oiaohmYep this leads to the insane twins, tripplets.... and so on in soap operas to bring chars back from the dea.Mar 19 18:25
oiaohmdea/dead.Mar 19 18:25
oiaohmStar trek you are not that lucky either when they end series you are done.Mar 19 18:25
XRevan86oiaohm: Tell that to Q %)Mar 19 18:26
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oiaohmXRevan86: Q stayed as a visiting char not there all the time.  So only coming in when the scripts were good.Mar 19 18:28
XRevan86it's interesting that Q is the worst possible character design, an absolute Many Sue, but John de Lancie delivers.Mar 19 18:28
oiaohmIf Q was there all the time you don't want think how bad the script would have got.Mar 19 18:29
XRevan86oiaohm: I don't have to imagine.Mar 19 18:30
*XRevan86 looks at Discord.Mar 19 18:30
XRevan86It's not so bad actually.Mar 19 18:30
oiaohmXRevan86: the actor of Q turned down quite a few scripts for eposides.Mar 19 18:31
XRevan86In later seasons of MLP:FiM he's become a recurring character.Mar 19 18:32
oiaohmYes only when he liked the script.Mar 19 18:32
oiaohmThey writers were doing some decent scripts at that point.Mar 19 18:32
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XRevan86oiaohm: You mean the pony show or the trek?Mar 19 18:39
XRevan86or both?Mar 19 18:46
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XRevan86oiaohm: Deanna Troi and Benjamin Sisko speak a bit funnyMar 19 18:54
XRevan86oiaohm: I find this… refreshing.Mar 19 18:54
gde33https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/all-software-licensing-theft-gary-elmes/Mar 19 19:12
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/aIkKxB8Mar 19 21:54
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XRevan86Another thing about Star Trek is that they have issues with phasers so often I wonder why they don't have a standard bullet pistol fallbackMar 19 23:16
cubexyzthey should also have cells with bars in case their force fields fail :)Mar 19 23:22
XRevan86cubexyz: That's a hard yes :)Mar 19 23:23
cubexyzat least they did have jefferies tubes (in case the turbolift failed)Mar 19 23:24
XRevan86cubexyz: I was amazed by an episode where the DS9 station's software turned out to have a left-over Cardassian "subroutine' that caused it to lock down.Mar 19 23:24
XRevan86this means they didn't just throw out all the foreign computers off the stationMar 19 23:25
XRevan86or at least wipe all of them outMar 19 23:25
cubexyzone of the more plausible plot devices I'd sayMar 19 23:25
XRevan86cubexyz: Maybe to a degreeMar 19 23:25
XRevan86but I think if I were a captain of a, say, ship that was salvaged from a potential enemy, I think I'd make sure that there are no left-overs.Mar 19 23:28
cubexyzgenerally I keep most of my old computers, but of course a government probably wouldn'tMar 19 23:30
XRevan86And apparently there are Cardassian computers with Cardassian operating systems running Cardassian proprietary codeMar 19 23:30
XRevan86what could possibly go wrongMar 19 23:31
cubexyzthere was an episode of voyager that re-purposed a Cardassian smart-missileMar 19 23:31
cubexyzDreadnought I think it was called, similar ideaMar 19 23:31
XRevan86So yeah, Starfleet doesn't like to play it safe when it comes to technologyMar 19 23:33
XRevan86and that's a perfect plot device that can be used over and overMar 19 23:33
XRevan86But yeah, at least turbolifts aren't deadlyMar 19 23:34
cubexyzyeah story-wise it's good :)Mar 19 23:42
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XRevan86cubexyz: I've noticed they often drink "red leaf tea" on DS9Mar 20 00:25
XRevan86I wonder if that's karkade / hibiscus teaMar 20 00:25
XRevan86those aren't leaves exactly though…Mar 20 00:27
XRevan86but petalsMar 20 00:27
cubexyzthere's raspberry leaf teaMar 20 00:27
cubexyzI think on DS9 it was a Cardassian drink?Mar 20 00:29
XRevan86cubexyz: I didn't pick up its originsMar 20 00:33
XRevan86https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Red_leaf_tea but I guess I could've just looked :)Mar 20 00:34
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cubexyzI don't know what real red tea tastes likeMar 20 00:38
XRevan86cubexyz: If we're talking about karkade, then it's quite enjoyable.Mar 20 00:43
cubexyzI'll have to try it sometimeMar 20 00:43
XRevan86cubexyz: :)Mar 20 00:54
XRevan86https://twitter.com/albertvaka/status/1107924633750253568 what the heckMar 20 01:00
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/p3Yd3Vr.pngMar 20 12:36
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/t/cat/uSduHFfMar 20 13:46
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MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/46gajdc2m9n21.jpgMar 20 15:30
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scienteshttps://tworingsoft.com/blog/2018/12/10/fun-with-unicode-in-swift.htmlMar 20 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tworingsoft.com | Two Ring Software % Blog % Fun with Unicode in Swift % 10 December 2018Mar 20 16:29
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XRevan86https://blog.process-one.net/how-we-protect-visitors-privacy/Mar 20 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.process-one.net | How we protect visitors privacy | ProcessOne — BlogMar 20 17:05
schestowitz[16:29] <scientes> https://tworingsoft.com/blog/2018/12/10/fun-with-unicode-in-swift.htmlMar 20 17:26
schestowitzcontextMar 20 17:26
schestowitz?Mar 20 17:26
scientesi got there from a discussion about zig languageMar 20 17:26
MinceRmove 'zig' !!Mar 20 17:30
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MinceRunmaintainable code is a good fit for crApple platformsMar 20 17:30
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1903059Mar 20 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 20 19:56
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030464Mar 20 20:08
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/13122976Mar 20 20:16
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030461Mar 20 21:34
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MinceR20 180534 <+XRevan86> https://blog.process-one.net/how-we-protect-visitors-privacy/Mar 20 21:45
MinceRniceMar 20 21:45
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/2DF1ftp.jpgMar 20 23:15
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cubexyz schestowitz, yes when I say slack I mean slackwareMar 20 23:41
cubexyzI'll say slackware from now onMar 20 23:41
cubexyzmost of my boxes run slackware Mar 20 23:42
cubexyzmy first distro was darkstar... a slackware derivativeMar 20 23:43
cubexyzlong live volkerding :)Mar 20 23:45
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scientesmy girlfriend is getting ripped off by bad exchange rates from gazprom bankMar 21 01:16
scientesher account is in USDMar 21 01:19
cubexyzschestowitz, found a very old reference to Richard Stallman I missed Mar 21 04:27
cubexyzsept 10th, 1980... from the cube lovers listMar 21 04:27
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/richard-stallman-cube-contest.txtMar 21 04:29
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030455Mar 21 08:02
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schestowitzhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/revoke-article-50-petition-cancel-14166545 Mar 21 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Revoke Article 50 petition to cancel Brexit signed by more than 600,000 in a day - Mirror OnlineMar 21 10:55
schestowitzhttps://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584Mar 21 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-petition.parliament.uk | Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU. - PetitionsMar 21 10:55
schestowitzsite may be still downMar 21 10:56
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MinceR(audio) https://imgur.com/gallery/h9m4KWYMar 21 18:36
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schestowitzMinceR: YEAHHHHHH MURICAA!!Mar 21 19:01
schestowitzDoesn't even show what he shoots atMar 21 19:01
schestowitzwasting ammos for his little loser mates to have a "Bud" overMar 21 19:01
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MinceRlolMar 21 19:09
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DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is porting their Windoze Pretender spyware to other platforms.Mar 21 19:56
DaemonFC[m]Starting with the Mac.Mar 21 19:56
MinceRmakes sense, m$ and crApple are very similar cults, probably still heavily entangled with each otherMar 21 19:57
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MinceRhttps://verfassungsblog.de/of-red-lines-and-red-herring-the-epps-delusions-about-restraining-orban/Mar 21 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-verfassungsblog.de | Of Red Lines and Red Herring: The EPP’s Delusions about Restraining Orbán | VerfassungsblogMar 21 20:02
scientesMinceR, that does give enought context to understand what is going onMar 21 20:40
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/589341.jpgMar 21 21:21
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/GFo9NYe.jpgMar 21 22:55
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Microsoft does own 0.0046% of Apple.   So there is some return on that spend.Mar 22 00:54
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DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: Why would they own 0.0046% of Apple?Mar 22 06:48
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schestowitz"Mar 22 07:41
schestowitzDear Roy good morning/afternoonMar 22 07:41
schestowitzThe jailed Brazilian president had axis in Finland:Mar 22 07:41
schestowitzThe same people is related to our patent/Nokia and also Elcoteq/Brazil case.Mar 22 07:41
schestowitz"Mar 22 07:41
schestowitzhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-corruption/brazils-ex-president-temer-jailed-accused-of-heading-criminal-organization-idUSKCN1R21JWMar 22 07:41
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Microsoft bailed Apple out of a financial problem a long time back.  This mostly was from Microsoft to offset the risk of being classed as a monopoly and coming under more USA regulation. Mar 22 08:29
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kaniinischestowitz: restarted itMar 22 08:35
schestowitzkaniini: cheers mate!Mar 22 08:49
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MinceRit's ridiculous that usian authorities consider crApple as competition to m$Mar 22 08:54
MinceRespecially a m$-owned crAppleMar 22 08:54
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oiaohmMinceR: I know its  ridiculous but its how the USA legal system works.   Microsoft avoided having a controlling interest.   Just made sure Apple did not go under.Mar 22 10:22
oiaohmMinceR: some ways the world would have been a better place if Apple had gone under at that point.Mar 22 10:23
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MinceRyeah, i know the usa legal system doesn't workMar 22 15:19
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: "yeah, i know the usa legal system doesn't work"Mar 22 16:55
DaemonFC[m]I made a facebook post about this.Mar 22 16:55
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/SrJvWMcCZmkmzHwPsNyolTmb >Mar 22 16:55
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oiaohmhttps://appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/06/august-6-1997----the-day-apple-and-microsoft-made-peace   Its really simple to forgot this ball out.  Then not see that Microsoft by capital investment firms after 2003 reinvested in apple.Mar 22 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | August 6, 1997 -- The day Apple and Microsoft made peaceMar 22 18:25
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oiaohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8cu8IMLOM  these power 9 motherboards are looking temping.  Invidiual bios chip write protect switches.Mar 22 21:33
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/03/22/9aa04bb1b1ab2c46.jpgMar 22 21:38
MinceRoiaohm: niceMar 22 21:38
XRevan86Did PowerPC get open source when I wasn't looking?Mar 22 21:40
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPOWER_Foundation#Openness doesn't particularly sound like itMar 22 21:42
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XRevan86Open-er than x86, ehMar 22 21:44
XRevan86oiaohm: A good way as any for this guy to learn about XonoticMar 22 21:46
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scientes"open"Mar 22 22:17
scientesthat how stallman was always rightMar 22 22:17
scientesif you focus on freedom it is hard to water downMar 22 22:17
scientesdang though----PC form-factor power 9 desktopsMar 22 22:18
MinceRexcept stallman wasn't always rightMar 22 22:18
scientesI've been waiting YEARS for that for arm64Mar 22 22:18
MinceRhe supports vendor lock-in recentlyMar 22 22:18
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scientesand maciotobin was the only thing so farMar 22 22:18
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oiaohmXRevan86: the source to the firmwares is up on github for the openpower stuff.Mar 22 22:42
oiaohmXRevan86: of course I am crossing fingers for risc-v to get more complete.Mar 22 22:42
scientesgeeze, AMD sells chips with 250W TDPMar 22 22:44
scienteshttps://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wxMar 22 22:45
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scientesthats a fuck-load of powerMar 22 22:52
scientesthe human brain is only 5WMar 22 22:52
scientesand each core can do 4 floating point operations at a timeMar 22 22:54
scientesthese core are so big these daysMar 22 22:54
oiaohmscientes: it a pitty you cannot focus that heat for cooking stuff.Mar 22 22:58
cubexyzso what should we be using these days?Mar 22 22:59
scientesoiaohm, the temperature that would destroy the cpu would be cooler than the temperature needed to cook most stuffMar 22 22:59
scientesexcept eggsMar 22 22:59
oiaohmscientes: as I said its a pitty we cannot extract the heat and then focus it.   Basically if we could pull basicallly a solar oven with the excess heat.Mar 22 23:04
scientesout-of-order cpus are really power inefficientMar 22 23:04
scientesbut when you use a cpu without it (like Cortex A53) you really notice itMar 22 23:04
oiaohmI would not say out of order cpu are power inefficient.  Risc-v rocket the inorder vs the Risc-v boom the out of order the out of order uses less power.Mar 22 23:05
oiaohmx86 have a lot of extra processing to go from cisc like instructions to load/store risc style instructions and that is insanely expnesive.Mar 22 23:06
oiaohmalso arm instructions have some very cisc like instructions.Mar 22 23:06
scienteswell arm thumb mode was licensed from mips, which did the best research on RISCMar 22 23:07
scientesThere is also the Mill CPU, which is VERY differn't Mar 22 23:08
scientesfor example realizing that registers are stupid on very fast cpusMar 22 23:08
scientesand instead using an expiration mechanismMar 22 23:08
oiaohmscientes: Mill have 33 registers 64 bit registers.   Instruction set is very different.Mar 22 23:11
oiaohmscientes: mips and Berkeley(behind risc-v) have done the most research on risc based instruction systems.Mar 22 23:14
scienteswhen I thought about it, it seemed that the pc should be a dedicated registerMar 22 23:14
scientesand have differn't caching semantics, where there is no cache coherency on the data pointed to by the pcMar 22 23:15
oiaohmI do like with risc-v you have 32 registers.  But really only 31 is useable because register 0 is always 0Mar 22 23:15
scientesthats 31 registersMar 22 23:15
oiaohmIts officially 32 one has a perminatly locked state.Mar 22 23:16
scientesyeah but its really 31 registersMar 22 23:16
scienteswait, I don't mean the pcMar 22 23:16
scientesI mean the frame-pointerMar 22 23:16
scientesthe pc should also be arm64-style, not crazy x86 styleMar 22 23:17
scientesbut its the frame pointer that seemed funny to meMar 22 23:17
scientesyou could probably get decent gains by making it special (mandating it be used only for a thread-local stack)Mar 22 23:17
scientesand using differn't cache rulesMar 22 23:18
scientesbecause passing pointers to things on the stack to other threads is already undefinedMar 22 23:18
oiaohmhttps://en.wikichip.org/wiki/risc-v/registers   If you count the program counter  and the zero risc-v has 33 registers.Mar 22 23:19
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scientesyeah, but if there is a special zero and pc register, why isn't there a special fp register?Mar 22 23:20
scientesIt would make that memory significantly faster in multi-threaded programsMar 22 23:20
oiaohmRisc-v can be operating without a MMU.Mar 22 23:21
scientesthis is a totally differn't thing I am talking aboutMar 22 23:21
oiaohmframepointer is more pain when you are mmuless.Mar 22 23:22
scientesnot reallyMar 22 23:22
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oiaohmscientes: https://lwn.net/Articles/717293/  when you have pagetables in a mmu framepointer can be kind of important to make sure you are putting stuff aligned to page tables.   When you are mmuless you don't have this problem.   Framepointers can just end up blocking memory in ways you don't need to when mmuless.Mar 22 23:28
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oiaohmscientes: it comes a bit of a question when you are mmuless should you be using framepointers.Mar 22 23:29
scientesahhh, i meant stack pointerMar 22 23:30
oiaohmSo a framepointer register might be something to appear and disappear based on if you have a mmu or not.Mar 22 23:30
oiaohmscientes: stack pointer is assigned to register 2 in risc-v.Mar 22 23:31
scientesbut it isn't specialMar 22 23:31
scientesthats just a C ABI thingMar 22 23:31
oiaohmIts also you have to think embedded usage where you might not be using a stack.Mar 22 23:32
oiaohmrisc-v instruction set is designed for evilly embedded.Mar 22 23:32
oiaohmDoes not matter what you are doing you will be needing a program counter.Mar 22 23:33
oiaohmAnd with the number of instructions that use zeros having a preset zero is helpful.Mar 22 23:34
scientesyes, because it is cheaper than a real registerMar 22 23:34
oiaohmIf you were designing a cpu for your general desktop stuff have a few more specialist registers would be a good thing.Mar 22 23:36
oiaohmBut when you are designing for embedded usage there are very few you can justify locking to a particular function.Mar 22 23:36
scientesbut almost everything is the same these daysMar 22 23:36
oiaohmzero and program counter are about it.Mar 22 23:36
scientesnot only do many people use extremely slow interpreted languages, but no-one wants to re-write anythingMar 22 23:37
oiaohmYou have to think there is insane group working on like a graphics card using risc-v instruction set.Mar 22 23:37
scientesIts likely that general purpose linux OSes will even take over things like routersMar 22 23:37
oiaohmRisc-v way out side stuff general purpose OS run on as well.Mar 22 23:38
oiaohmInto your RTOS and data mining stuff.Mar 22 23:38
oiaohmThose areas things get strange.Mar 22 23:38
oiaohmscientes: mips, risc-v and arm have usage cases well out side general purpose os stuff.     X86 started in highly embedded as well.Mar 22 23:40
oiaohmThis leads to the reigster stuff.Mar 22 23:40
scientesI am all for improovementMar 22 23:40
scienteslike making sp specialMar 22 23:40
scienteswowMar 22 23:41
scientesI want a system with 64TB of memory :)Mar 22 23:41
oiaohmUnlikely to happen any time soon the parties likely to pay for new instruction set is highly embedded.Mar 22 23:41
scientesi don't even have that much dataMar 22 23:41
scientesbut embedded uses a stack pointer tooMar 22 23:42
scienteshowever this feature is only relevent to multi-threaded use casesMar 22 23:42
scientesand now most cell phones are multi-threadedMar 22 23:42
oiaohmscientes: embedded inside a harddrive no so much.Mar 22 23:42
scientesin Zig, I wanted to work on getting mutexes to work between differn't architecturesMar 22 23:42
scienteslike i386 and x86_64Mar 22 23:42
scientesthere is a need for that nowMar 22 23:43
scienteslike in libwaylandMar 22 23:43
oiaohmscientes: I don't mean your cell phone level embedded.  I am talking about your WD level embedded and worse.Mar 22 23:43
scientesyeah that is all dominated by ARMMar 22 23:43
oiaohmscientes: yes where they will use compliers that build code avoiding all usage of stack pointers.Mar 22 23:43
scientes?????? why don't they want a stack?Mar 22 23:43
oiaohmYou cannot have a stack pointer error if you never use a stack pointer.Mar 22 23:43
scientesbecause of the risk of stack overflow?Mar 22 23:44
oiaohmYepMar 22 23:44
scienteszig is working on solving that problemMar 22 23:44
scientesthere is some work on call graph analysis in llvmMar 22 23:44
oiaohmDevelopment polices were written like 20+ years ago and are fairly much set in stone and will take like a decade or so to change in the highly embedded fields.Mar 22 23:45
oiaohmBasically bugger.Mar 22 23:45
scienteszig is really optimized for embeddedMar 22 23:45
scientesbecause it does not depend on libcMar 22 23:45
oiaohmscientes: stackless programming languages means you are not using C.   Yes this can mean fortran and other horribles.Mar 22 23:52
oiaohmhighly embedded fields you also get out side your common programming languages as well.Mar 22 23:53
oiaohmscientes: when you get into insane embedded you get into 1 instruction cpus.Mar 22 23:57
scientesbut why?Mar 22 23:57
scientesseriouslyMar 22 23:57
scientesjust use a COrtex M3Mar 22 23:57
scientesunless you are making something disposable, like a fare cardMar 22 23:57
scientesand even those are expensive now---$2 in PanamaMar 22 23:58
oiaohmscientes: single instruction cpus are found inside quite a few different things they are insanely small on silicon requirement.Mar 23 00:23
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DaemonFC[m]Okay, I got a pair of eyeglasses from Zenni.Mar 23 03:13
DaemonFC[m]They seem to be about the same quality as the Walmart pair I paid 3.5 times more for, except....Mar 23 03:14
DaemonFC[m]The ones from Zenni also have a photochromatic lens upgrade.Mar 23 03:14
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schestowitzwalmart for everything?Mar 23 03:30
schestowitzEven optometric? Mar 23 03:31
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yes, Walmart has their own vision centers. The eye doctors who have their offices there are independent, but the store does sell eyeglasses.Mar 23 05:06
DaemonFC[m]They use their own suppliers that are not affiliated with Luxottica and they are a much better deal than Pearle or Lenscrafters or other Luxottica stores, but they're still quite expensive compared with online stores.Mar 23 05:07
DaemonFC[m]If you just want a basic pair of plastic lenses with no upgrades, Walmart's prices are comparable to others.Mar 23 05:09
DaemonFC[m]My glasses aren't a very strong prescription.Mar 23 06:18
DaemonFC[m]It's mainly to correct a mild astigmatism, primarily in my right eye.Mar 23 06:19
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: I buy my lens locally I know at a higher price but I buy my frames online because I can get lot of the top of the line titanium frames direct from china from long term makers of frames for half the price of nickle plated steel frames that break down in 2 to 3 years. Mar 23 08:51
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XRevan86https://bbc.com/news/world-asia-47638619Mar 23 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nursultan: Kazakhstan renames capital Astana after ex-president - BBC NewsMar 23 11:15
schestowitzXRevan86: all about himMar 23 11:41
schestowitzand now fewer people will know how to name or pronounce it Mar 23 11:43
XRevan86schestowitz: NoorsooltanMar 23 11:43
XRevan86No diphthongs, just like that.Mar 23 11:44
XRevan86Nazarbayev also has the status of "elbasy" – father of the nationMar 23 11:46
XRevan86schestowitz: It *is* all about him :)Mar 23 11:46
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MinceRhttps://news.sky.com/story/uri-geller-tells-pm160i-am-going-to-stop-brexit-telepathically-11672961Mar 23 12:14
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schestowitzMinceR: trolling for media attention againMar 23 14:38
schestowitzignore himMar 23 14:38
schestowitzdid the same in footballMar 23 14:38
MinceRi found it funnyMar 23 14:39
MinceRhttps://si.kohlchan.net/int/src/1553332423376-3.jpegMar 23 15:04
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DaemonFC[m]oiaohm > DaemonFC: I buy my lens locally I know at a higher price but I buy my frames online because I can get lot of the top of the line titanium frames direct from china from long term makers of frames for half the price of nickle plated steel frames that break down in 2 to 3 years.Mar 23 16:23
DaemonFC[m]The one from Walmart are aluminum and plastic and the ones from Zenni are plastic.Mar 23 16:24
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: I spend Less than 20 dollar AUD getting flex titanium frames straight from china.Mar 23 16:25
DaemonFC[m]I don't know how they'll hold up. Walmart has a one year warranty and Zenni is so cheap that I wouldn't be super pissed if they broke after 3 or 4 years.Mar 23 16:25
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oiaohmI need to as I am a mega careless.    Plastic frames I have habit of dropping and end up steping on them.Mar 23 16:26
oiaohmthat is broken.Mar 23 16:26
oiaohmwhere flex titatium is just put the lens back in.Mar 23 16:26
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Agstum << this is a brand.   Normal plastic frames start at about 6 AUD.Mar 23 16:34
DaemonFC[m]https://www.out.com/news/2019/3/22/another-man-using-prep-has-been-diagnosed-hivMar 23 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.out.com | Another Man Using PrEP Has Been Diagnosed With HIVMar 23 16:42
DaemonFC[m]Well, it looks like the days are numbered for Truvada.Mar 23 16:43
DaemonFC[m]A seventh (known) person has gotten HIV while taking it for PrEP.Mar 23 16:43
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://agstum.aliexpress.com  and https://esnbie.aliexpress.com are the two places I go glasses shopping on line.  Agstum for titanium,   Esnbie for stainess steel.   But there are other decently price brands that have operated for 6 or more years on aliexpress. Mar 23 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-agstum.aliexpress.com | AGSTUM Official Store - Small Orders Online Store, Hot Selling and more on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupMar 23 16:44
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Walmart with Zenni has to be house rebrand.Mar 23 16:45
DaemonFC[m]Walmart does their own manufacturing for lenses, apparently, in Arkansas.Mar 23 16:45
oiaohmThat would be correct but frames would most likely be imported from china.Mar 23 16:46
oiaohmTurn around from china on having a len fitted is not worth it.Mar 23 16:46
DaemonFC[m]Yes, the lenses are made in the US, but the frames all say China.Mar 23 16:50
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: from aliexpress speed to australia can be few month at times.  With me I have normally seen and ordered by next frame of glasses before my next appointment to have eyes tested.Mar 23 16:56
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: by a large margin.Mar 23 16:56
oiaohmI would say have a bit of a look and china does run specials from time to time.Mar 23 16:56
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schestowitz[15:04] <MinceR> https://si.kohlchan.net/int/src/1553332423376-3.jpegMar 24 01:38
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schestowitznot sure what it had shownMar 24 01:38
schestowitz[16:43] <DaemonFC[m]> A seventh (known) person has gotten HIV while taking it for PrEP.Mar 24 01:39
schestowitzI first read that as grepMar 24 01:39
MinceRschestowitz: https://files.catbox.moe/mzyi1s.jpegMar 24 01:44
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1109667463753457665Mar 24 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: @schestowitz Not many can discern between technology and gimmicks.Mar 24 04:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: screenshors with techrights?Mar 24 07:14
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: would share if you have itMar 24 07:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation: CommunityBridge, Continuous Delivery Foundation and Zowe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122058 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f40a6d80-cc1c-4250-9504-aff279df9268]Mar 24 12:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Privacy, GitHub 'Leaks', Network Security, Android and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122059 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6004b838-99e3-4a6d-a7ae-28e83e291f22]Mar 24 13:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 19.04 Updates - 7 Things To Know http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122060 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0ce62a1-0296-4ca3-a22f-35b633c6c3f3]Mar 24 13:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: Game Boy and OpenMV http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122061 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3ba6c4e9-7c74-4aa0-a65f-1a8ccf65ad06]Mar 24 13:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Brand-New Videos Look at KDE Plasma 5.15 and KDE Neon Installation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122062 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3339597d-d827-4440-bc71-06c35b288eaf]Mar 24 13:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122063 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ccb7fe4-8aa8-4cff-9bac-14d4cf2a548e]Mar 24 13:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: SUSE. IBM, Google and TriggerMesh http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122064 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7552a6b7-a0ce-408f-b06b-b62ea371f6f9]Mar 24 13:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Has Microsoft Changed? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122065 [https://pleroma.site/objects/948c93e2-5629-4e31-96cd-aec8a76d7512]Mar 24 14:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Deception, FUD and Entryism/Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122066 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f912e686-a644-47f5-9153-8892be9a647b]Mar 24 14:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS in Net/CMS: Decentralized 'Social Networks', 'Web 3.0', Apache and eLife http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122067 [https://pleroma.site/objects/43060985-5d8b-4116-ae01-c9aae4e2a0c6]Mar 24 14:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: OpenXR, Code From Nvidia, OpenChrome http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122068 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f04250a7-7cc0-4829-9d56-dc44bf35b393]Mar 24 14:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Licensing: Amazon AWS, CAST and Free and Open source Software (FOSS) Licences http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122069 [https://pleroma.site/objects/45b4508a-8580-44cd-b25a-c073619952c3]Mar 24 14:52
XRevan86schestowitz: https://nginx.com/blog/whats-difference-nginx-foss-nginx-plusMar 24 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Differences between Open Source NGINX and NGINX PlusMar 24 14:53
XRevan86schestowitz: nginx isn't a very good free bait for nginx Plus, because, as you can see, nginx Plus focuses primarily on load balancing and monitoring, two things that HAproxy can do just as well.Mar 24 14:54
XRevan86schestowitz: I wanted to clarify that even for those, who need load balancing and network monitoring, nginx Plus is still not the only option, one can get FOSS nginx behind Traefik, and I don't see why not.Mar 24 14:58
XRevan86So even for nginx users the proprietary extension isn't all that tempting.Mar 24 15:00
XRevan86Which reminds me that both HAproxy and Traefik are "open core" themselves %).Mar 24 15:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Flawed Government Sites, Windows Disasters, and an SSH Tarpit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122070 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e713b425-ca97-4b74-86e6-cc9870dbb7e7]Mar 24 15:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122071 [https://pleroma.site/objects/737d0f9c-6c6b-4542-9fd8-5a50a731de89]Mar 24 15:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftivers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122072 [https://pleroma.site/objects/445b68b7-7d6b-45a3-9aa8-622ce6ba94b9]Mar 24 15:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 24/3/2019: Microsoft Does Not Change; Lots of FOSS Leftovers http://techrights.org/2019/03/24/microsoft-does-not-change/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/93110c9e-ebef-4df4-9d8c-95692e72e86c]Mar 24 15:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #KodachiOS Review http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122073 [https://pleroma.site/objects/026917d7-2999-4d53-be89-ca7b256d3464]Mar 24 16:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: nano-4.0 is released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122074 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5a194ecd-c4e7-42d2-a3de-69261191cbb8]Mar 24 16:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #LinuxMint #KDE Still Possible http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122075 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e349cd3-bc3a-41de-94e0-c45668cc6881]Mar 24 16:24
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/omj4tzM.jpgMar 24 16:34
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XRevan86MinceR: The third point is the strongest.Mar 24 16:35
MinceRindeedMar 24 16:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: n#ikita 0.3 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122076 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ff7d5d9-9866-4786-8b2c-a341436d5e1f]Mar 24 16:38
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/JMJJXRP.jpgMar 24 16:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stellarium v0.19.0 has been released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122077 [https://pleroma.site/objects/02a071d2-1e4e-4853-9073-162dab973996]Mar 24 17:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122078 [https://pleroma.site/objects/006d0def-d09d-4023-9fd4-cd2045e32260]Mar 24 17:20
oiaohmMinceR: anti-vaccines are kind of stupid in another way.    Dead vaccines are a controlled exposure to the illness.   Any adverse reaction to the vaccine is many times less than if the person gets the real illness.Mar 24 17:32
oiaohmThere were some historic bad stuff up with some of the early vaccines that were live vaccines.Mar 24 17:34
oiaohmLike the first smallpox vaccine was in fact cowpox.  Of course this ment bad reaction to cowpox was absolute death.Mar 24 17:35
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Typical EpiphanyMar 24 17:42
schestowitzXRevan86: thanks. I am more or less awareMar 24 17:44
schestowitzbut they are still regarded as open core and we need to discourage such practicesMar 24 17:44
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DaemonFC[m]The icons, fonts, and Adwaita theme have all been tweaked for GNOME 3.32.Mar 24 17:44
schestowitzimagine what would happen if Firefox, LibreOffice etc. became like thatMar 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]The excessive padding is removed and the fonts are more rounded and antialiasing works better on the new Cantarell. Mar 24 17:44
XRevan86schestowitz: StarOffice once again? :)Mar 24 17:45
XRevan86schestowitz: I can't say I don't agree. But then what's the alternative?Mar 24 17:47
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XRevan86schestowitz: Apache httpd is susceptible to DDoS, and that just drives people to HAProxy, which is also "open core".Mar 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]I'll probably turn Facebook into an app.Mar 24 17:48
XRevan86Heavy RAM usage, little to gain.Mar 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]It actually doesn't use much more RAM to keep it as an app vs. a tab process.Mar 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Since Web uses Webkit2, each tab is a process of its own anywayMar 24 17:50
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I was talking about Apache httpd :)Mar 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Ahh.Mar 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]Rhythmbox is a little messed up right now because of changes to the GNOME Shell.Mar 24 17:52
DaemonFC[m]Fortunately, VLC still works fine.Mar 24 17:52
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*XRevan86 still uses Clementine.Mar 24 17:52
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MinceR(audio) https://imgur.com/gallery/VAVzob8Mar 24 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tha Chonky Bois Choir - Album on ImgurMar 24 18:20
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/03/24/752efcfcbcde3af5.jpgMar 24 18:24
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030432Mar 24 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 24 20:06
XRevan86MinceR: TILMar 24 20:06
MinceR:)Mar 24 20:07
*XRevan86 has heard the song, but didn't know who sings it.Mar 24 20:08
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030418Mar 24 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 24 20:51
XRevan86MinceR: Doctor Popov the puppetMar 24 20:57
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1903047Mar 24 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 24 21:23
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oiaohmXRevan86: apache end up behind  Varnish or HAProxy a lot both have options to go HA and both have filtering against ddos pests.Mar 24 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Evolution has been removed from Fedora 30 by default.Mar 24 22:25
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DaemonFC[m]NICEMar 24 22:41
DaemonFC[m]The city of Chicago went out and fined my old landlord based on the complaints I filed.Mar 24 22:42
DaemonFC[m]She was fined $1,200 and ordered to fix the doorbell wiring and the plumbing in the basement immediately.Mar 24 22:42
DaemonFC[m]She was ordered to not sign any new leases until the problems are fixed.Mar 24 22:43
DaemonFC[m]Could be why the listing for my old apartment disappeared from Zillow.Mar 24 22:44
DaemonFC[m]ROFLMar 24 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Even if she could rent it out for April she won't now.Mar 24 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Well, that's nearly $3,500 in fines and lost rent.Mar 24 22:48
DaemonFC[m]Toss a grenade in and slam the door. :)Mar 24 22:48
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