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XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_-_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88_%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9.jpg no one is criticising Ukraine's patriotism for instanceDec 23 00:02
XRevan86except for KremlinDec 23 00:02
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#World_War_II and WikipediaDec 23 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Stepan Bandera - WikipediaDec 23 00:03
XRevan86I'm risking of sounding anti-Ukraine, but yeah, this is the guyDec 23 00:05
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XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Ukraine#Controversial_awardsDec 23 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hero of Ukraine - WikipediaDec 23 00:09
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XRevan86MinceR: The point is, the figures like Stepan Bandera, who are pretty much Nazis, are fighters for the Ukraine sovereignity against the Soviets to them.Dec 23 00:16
XRevan86If they can have heroes who had involvement in the goddamn Holocaust, then why the South of the US cannot have freakin' slave owners?Dec 23 00:18
XRevan86https://wpolityce.pl/polityka/347083-waszczykowski-dla-wsieci-o-stosunkach-polsko-ukrainskich-nasz-przekaz-jest-bardzo-jasny-z-bandera-do-europy-nie-wejdziecie Poland has a problem with that too apparently.Dec 23 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wpolityce.pl | Waszczykowski dla "wSieci" o stosunkach polsko-ukraińskich: Nasz przekaz jest bardzo jasny: z Banderą do Europy nie wejdziecieDec 23 00:19
scientestwo wrongs make a right amirite?Dec 23 00:19
scienteshttps://i.imgur.com/jsOxM8A.gifDec 23 00:22
scienteslawlsDec 23 00:22
XRevan86scientes: apparentlyDec 23 00:22
XRevan86I really don't understand why no one except Poland (and Russia) says that this is not okayDec 23 00:28
scientesis that about the law that says that you can't blame polish people for the halocaust?Dec 23 00:28
XRevan86scientes: No, that's the article from 2017 saying that Poland won't permit Ukraine's entry into the EU until they remove the Bandera's cultDec 23 00:29
XRevan86Stepan Bandera didn't screw with the Moskovits and Jews, but with the Polish tooDec 23 00:30
scientesyeah nobody else knows about thatDec 23 00:30
scienteswhat about HungaryDec 23 00:30
scientesand its descent into tyrannyDec 23 00:30
XRevan86* didn't screw just with theDec 23 00:31
scienteshttps://outabouter.com/2018/12/21/canadian-gofundme-raises-6b-in-two-hours-to-pay-for-privacy-hedge-along-entire-us-border-2/Dec 23 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outabouter.com | Canadian GoFundMe Raises $6B In Two Hours To Pay For Privacy Hedge Along Entire US Border – The Out And AbouterDec 23 00:31
XRevan86scientes: I know about that because of MinceRDec 23 00:31
XRevan86scientes: That is also related to mentioned by you "Neo-Nazis in Ukraine"Dec 23 00:32
XRevan86I don't think that makes Ukraine a Nazist regime, but Nazis as heroes they do have.Dec 23 00:33
scientesprobably cause the US is backing themDec 23 00:33
XRevan86And Stepan Bandera's birthday is a national holiday now.Dec 23 00:33
scienteslike look at what just happened in BrazilDec 23 00:34
scientesUS loves dictaitorsDec 23 00:34
XRevan86scientes: Why not Putin then? %)Dec 23 00:34
scientes*their*Dec 23 00:35
XRevan86My view of the world is pretty grimDec 23 00:35
XRevan86There are no heroes in my narrative.Dec 23 00:35
XRevan86* on the worldDec 23 00:36
MinceRXRevan86: patriotism is poison to the mindDec 23 00:41
DaemonFC[m]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gop-one-party-rule-ends_us_5c1bf632e4b08aaf7a86858bDec 23 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | The GOP Ends Its One-Party Rule In Shambles | HuffPostDec 23 00:41
XRevan86MinceR: Yet it is a part of humanity that is hard to get rid of, like from alcohol.Dec 23 00:43
XRevan86or religion %)Dec 23 00:43
MinceRindeedDec 23 00:43
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MinceRbut humanity is working on itDec 23 00:44
XRevan86Not in power to just say "Ukraine, Russia, stahp it"Dec 23 00:44
XRevan86* in my powerDec 23 00:44
MinceRonce humans kill themselves off, there won't be any nationalism, or racism, or religion, or drug abuseDec 23 00:44
XRevan86It is in my power to form my sentences correctly the first time around, yet somehow… %)Dec 23 00:44
scienteswhat about Kiev, RusDec 23 00:44
XRevan86scientes: History?Dec 23 00:45
XRevan86scientes: What about it?Dec 23 00:45
scientesyes historyDec 23 00:45
scientesbefore the capital move to moscowDec 23 00:45
XRevan86Once upon a time there was this viking that moved east to be king there…Dec 23 00:46
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18091050Dec 23 00:46
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XRevan86scientes: What about it though? %)Dec 23 00:47
scienteswell i dont want to say too muchDec 23 00:47
XRevan86The people of the Rus' were split basicallyDec 23 00:48
scientesI think what is important is what is best for the people of UkraineDec 23 00:48
XRevan86scientes: Ukrainians and Bela*rus*ians are just as *Russ*ian as "Russians" are, if that's the confusion.Dec 23 00:48
scientesand I don't really think the EU can do any good for themDec 23 00:48
scientesand it will bankrupt the EU fasterDec 23 00:48
XRevan86Like the Dutch and the Deutsch (Germans)Dec 23 00:49
XRevan86common historyDec 23 00:49
scientesyeah, and Pennyslvania Dutch (amish) and Afrikaans (South Africa)Dec 23 00:50
XRevan86East Slavs ("Old" Russians) → West Russians, East RussiansDec 23 00:50
XRevan86West Russians → Ukrainians, BelarusiansDec 23 00:50
scientesrather than getting them to speah hofdeutsche and being more like the UK and France or Spain or Portogul with continued colonial tiesDec 23 00:51
XRevan86that's the short storyDec 23 00:51
scientesIts like how the US calls Persian, farsiDec 23 00:51
scientescause they don't want to admit there there is a common history there or something like thatDec 23 00:52
MinceRi thought the Farsi called themselves thatDec 23 00:52
scientesyeah that is their own name of their languageDec 23 00:52
scientesbut it makes sense to translate itDec 23 00:52
scientesand admit that afghanistan and tajikistan speak the same langaugeDec 23 00:52
MinceRsometimes the people themselves don't seem to like foreigners translating their namesDec 23 00:52
scientestajikistan don't even have their own language---its russian and persianDec 23 00:53
scienteswell Spanish has a name for a person of the united states, while English doesn't....go figureDec 23 00:53
XRevan86The self-name of Russia is Rossia, which is what Greeks called Rus'Dec 23 00:53
scientesand now we call the later Romans Byzantines, because its too confusing to call someone Romans that don't have Rome as their capitalDec 23 00:54
MinceRwhat's the spanish name?Dec 23 00:54
MinceRhow could they be romans if they don't have rome, though?Dec 23 00:54
MinceR(especially considering that their empire split and rome was on the other side)Dec 23 00:54
XRevan86scientes: And those "Greeks" I mentioned are actually from the Roman Empire, yes :)Dec 23 00:54
scientesbut that is what they called themselves, and even the Arabs called them RomansDec 23 00:54
scientesbut i guess the Russians didn'tDec 23 00:55
XRevan86MinceR: That was still the Roman Empire legally.Dec 23 00:55
scientesand they created "Roman law"Dec 23 00:55
scientesEmporer JustinianDec 23 00:55
scientesMinceR, EstadounidenseDec 23 00:56
XRevan86scientes: Indeed, there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_route_from_the_Varangians_to_the_GreeksDec 23 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks - WikipediaDec 23 00:56
XRevan86to back that upDec 23 00:56
XRevan86The famous trade route wasn't to the Romans, but to the Greeks.Dec 23 00:56
XRevan86из варяг в *греки*Dec 23 00:56
scientesXRevan86, that is really interestingDec 23 00:57
XRevan86> изъ варѧгъ въ грекиDec 23 00:57
XRevan86In Old Russian (East Slavic)Dec 23 00:57
scientescause I've read Arabic texts that refer to them as RomansDec 23 00:57
scientesbefore the fall of constantinople of courseDec 23 00:58
scientesand they were taveling into the Volga, but no mention of the RUssiansDec 23 00:58
scienteshttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21927609-two-arabic-travel-booksDec 23 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Two Arabic Travel Books: Accounts of China and India and Mission to the Volga by Abu Zayd Al-SirafiDec 23 00:59
scientesoh I guess iiiit does, i just forgotDec 23 01:00
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scientes"Crucially, he offers a description of the Viking Rus, including their customs, "Dec 23 01:00
XRevan86Fun fact: Russians called Constantinople TsargradDec 23 01:00
scientesoh thats a cool nameDec 23 01:00
XRevan86scientes: It could refer to actual vikingsDec 23 01:00
XRevan86there were quite a bunch in Rus'Dec 23 01:01
scienteshe said that a woman played with herself in front of everyoneDec 23 01:01
scientesit was an odd accountDec 23 01:01
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scientes(and he was trying to show off his Muslim piety by telling that story)Dec 23 01:02
XRevan86It's as if there were a viking conquest of the territory, except without any oppositionDec 23 01:03
MinceRscientes: ah, so usians :>Dec 23 01:03
MinceR(or usonians, if you prefer Frank Lloyd Wright's term :> )Dec 23 01:03
XRevan86later they just assimilatedDec 23 01:03
XRevan86En Esperanto la termo estas Usono.Dec 23 01:03
MinceR:)Dec 23 01:03
scientesXRevan86, same with Mongol assymilationDec 23 01:03
XRevan86* la terminoDec 23 01:04
MinceRisn't Roman law much older than Justinian, though?Dec 23 01:04
scientesMinceR, yeah but he codified itDec 23 01:04
XRevan86scientes: By whom? %)Dec 23 01:04
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Kievan_Rus%27Dec 23 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mongol invasion of Kievan Rus' - WikipediaDec 23 01:05
scientesoh wait the russias defeated the mongols in battle, so yeah IDKDec 23 01:05
XRevan86scientes: They are still around actually.Dec 23 01:05
XRevan86although partial assimilation did take placeDec 23 01:06
scientesoh yeah the mongolia video described that there are mongolians in russiaDec 23 01:06
XRevan86IIRC, the Crimean tatars countDec 23 01:06
XRevan86as those who didn't just come laterDec 23 01:07
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpdGIPHPBwU hmm can't find it but i remember it being in this videoDec 23 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Geography Now! MONGOLIA - YouTubeDec 23 01:08
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_TatarsDec 23 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Crimean Tatars - WikipediaDec 23 01:08
XRevan86Yep, they areDec 23 01:08
XRevan86kind of :)Dec 23 01:08
XRevan86Even though they they fought Russians, they didn't take Crimea from RussiansDec 23 01:09
XRevan86and then Russians invaded themDec 23 01:10
XRevan86scientes: Mongolians, just like Vikings, kind of, still exist, obviously.Dec 23 01:12
XRevan86scientes: The question is whether those who invaded Rus' did :)Dec 23 01:12
XRevan86assimilateDec 23 01:12
scientesholy shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7mgZG1bdQDec 23 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Video: Sydney pummeled by hail the size of tennis balls - YouTubeDec 23 01:13
XRevan86though I guess the answer is yes, partiallyDec 23 01:13
scientesMinceR, ^Dec 23 01:13
scientesand in the summer, wtf?Dec 23 01:13
XRevan86scientes: What a time to own a vehicle?Dec 23 01:13
XRevan86scientes: I thought hail is more likely in the summerDec 23 01:15
scientesoh yeahDec 23 01:15
scientescause it has to melt firstDec 23 01:15
scientesi saw it in fall in San FranciscoDec 23 01:15
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/5YYsilg.gifvDec 23 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurDec 23 01:18
scientesapparently Sebia is also in protest https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/a8pee3/third_saturday_of_protests_in_belgrade_serbia/Dec 23 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Third Saturday of protests in Belgrade, Serbia. More than 35 000 people on streets, 20 000 more than first week, 10 000 more then last. President said he won't listen to us even if there were 5mil on streets. Media is barely covering protests, and government propaganda is horrible. : europeDec 23 01:23
XRevan86> Media is barely covering protests, and government propaganda is horrible.Dec 23 01:25
XRevan86Russia is proud.Dec 23 01:25
scienteshttps://i.redd.it/t8gnwkv7r4a11.jpgDec 23 01:30
XRevan86and ruins the lawnsDec 23 01:31
XRevan86* ruinDec 23 01:31
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DaemonFC[m]AARP gives you a 15% discount on eyeglasses at Pearle Vision. Super. After they charge three times as much as Walmart.Dec 23 02:07
scientesjust use zenniDec 23 02:07
DaemonFC[m]I might order a backup pair from Zenni and see how I like it.Dec 23 02:08
scientesget twoDec 23 02:08
scientestwo $7 onesDec 23 02:08
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18091048Dec 23 02:09
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18091023Dec 23 03:26
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iltNNgkTELQDec 23 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-India TV Debate on Divorce in Islam Erupts into Violence - YouTubeDec 23 06:36
DaemonFC[m]https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2018-December/031581.htmlDec 23 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Nouveau] [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3Dec 23 06:58
scientesthats a fuckload of fucksDec 23 06:59
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scientesXRevan86, oh, so Ukraine gave the nukes back to Russia in 1994 with the assurance that Russia would never challenge Ukraine's borders.....Dec 23 07:57
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scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernismDec 23 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Post-postmodernism - WikipediaDec 23 08:38
scienteslolDec 23 08:38
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schestowitz kaniini: are you OK with me installing https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86_64/virt-viewer ?Dec 23 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packagesDec 23 11:05
kaniinischestowitz: it wont be effective, as it requires libvirtDec 23 11:14
kaniinischestowitz: /etc/conf.d/qemu.techrights show have to enable VNCDec 23 11:15
kaniinis/have/how/Dec 23 11:16
schestowitzthanks, will look into itDec 23 11:18
schestowitzstill learning the basics https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_package_managementDec 23 11:19
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schestowitzMinceR: https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12/17/viktor-orban-trump-and-the-populist-battle-over-public-space/Dec 23 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org | Viktor Orban, Trump and the Populist Battle Over Public SpaceDec 23 11:38
schestowitzkaniini: quick question, vnc_listen="0.0.0.0" set to my home IP address? vnc_display set to 0, I've set a password and I try to connect on port 5900 to the remove host using my vnc client..Dec 23 11:56
kaniininoDec 23 12:02
kaniiniit needs be 0.0.0.0Dec 23 12:03
kaniiniconnect to the hypervisor ip on 5900Dec 23 12:03
schestowitzahaDec 23 12:04
schestowitzgot it, thank you, kaniiniDec 23 12:07
XRevan86scientes: Sounds right %).Dec 23 12:16
schestowitzOK, so with techrights it's this https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/probing-edd-message-at-boot-time-what-does-it-mean-750715/Dec 23 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | [SOLVED] Probing EDD message at boot time: what does it mean?Dec 23 12:19
schestowitzJ can log in to tuxmachines OK now, from the CLIDec 23 12:19
schestowitzso it booted OKDec 23 12:19
schestowitz /root is full from nightly backups, sorted that out just nowDec 23 12:23
schestowitzkaniini: tuxmachines boots OK, just not accessible over ssh/http on 199.19.78.20, httpd and mysqld already running OK, there's just no contact with the outside worldDec 23 12:25
kaniiniyesDec 23 12:40
kaniinineeds to be configuredDec 23 12:40
kaniini199.19.78.20/29 gateway 199.19.78.17Dec 23 12:40
kaniiniif it is centos 6, you could do it via /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 probablyDec 23 12:40
schestowitzthanks, will look into itDec 23 12:41
schestowitzkaniini: I'm not sure how to access the logical volume 'off-line' so to speak, I just want to add "edd=off" to the first kernel line in techrights.org (as per https://serverfault.com/questions/708447/probing-edd-boot-messsvage-stays-for-ten-minutes-on-centos-6-6 ) - it's always the same issue when I boot, it hangs with just a message saying it's "probing EDD (edd=off to disable.. OK"Dec 23 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | centos6 - probing EDD boot message stays for ten minutes on centos 6.6 - Server FaultDec 23 13:17
schestowitz(I tired passing that option through the hypervisor when it starts the VM, but it doesn't support such an optionDec 23 13:18
*schestowitz changing configs for MAC addressDec 23 13:48
schestowitzhttps://www.ostechnix.com/solve-device-eth0-not-seem-present-delaying-initialization-error/Dec 23 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to solve “Device eth0 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization” error - OSTechNixDec 23 13:50
schestowitzok, I managed to get eth0 runningDec 23 14:03
schestowitzkaniini: it says address already working, thank you thank you !Dec 23 14:07
schestowitzhttp://199.19.78.20/Dec 23 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-199.19.78.20 | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Dec 23 14:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NotSoEasyGirl1/status/1076851314456494081Dec 23 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NotSoEasyGirl1: @schestowitz Oh hell, I don’t even wear jewelry anymore, like saying ‘look at what I have or look at me’. I’ll wear… https://t.co/vGCed0F21uDec 23 14:56
schestowitzlolDec 23 14:56
schestowitzkaniini: I've just noticedDec 23 15:09
schestowitzbrw-------    1 root     root      253,   1 Nov 27 21:23 vg0-workDec 23 15:09
schestowitzlocalhost:/dev/mapper# ls -la | grep techriDec 23 15:09
schestowitzbrw-------    1 qemu     qemu      253,   2 Dec 23 13:07 vg0-techrights.orgDec 23 15:09
schestowitzbrw-------    1 qemu     qemu      253,   4 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org1Dec 23 15:09
schestowitzbrw-------    1 qemu     qemu      253,   5 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org2Dec 23 15:09
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schestowitz(tuxmachines has only one such entry, the above are spaced apart exactly 24 hours)Dec 23 15:10
kaniinii'll fix thatDec 23 15:11
schestowitzI've been test-driving tuxmachines on the new hypervisor, it seems to work perfectlyDec 23 15:11
kaniiniits harmlessDec 23 15:11
schestowitzas did techrights before it stopped bootingDec 23 15:11
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kaniinihummDec 23 15:36
schestowitzhttps://access.redhat.com/solutions/47621Dec 23 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com | Why does installation halt at the "Probing EDD" message on the Fujitsu PRIMERGY TX120 S2? - Red Hat Customer PortalDec 23 15:36
schestowitzhttps://access.redhat.com/solutions/47621Dec 23 15:36
schestowitzhttps://serverfault.com/questions/708447/probing-edd-boot-messsvage-stays-for-ten-minutes-on-centos-6-6Dec 23 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | centos6 - probing EDD boot message stays for ten minutes on centos 6.6 - Server FaultDec 23 15:36
schestowitzhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/107492/probing-edd-edd-off-to-disable-ok/Dec 23 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ask.openstack.org | Probing EDD (edd off to disable) .... ok [closed] - Ask OpenStack: Q&A Site for OpenStack Users and DevelopersDec 23 15:36
schestowitzI am guessing passing the argument to the kernel (edd parameter) might help, I just hope that when the site goes live it doesn't happen again without fallbacks, still not sure what happened as I only edited resolve.confDec 23 15:37
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1809105Dec 23 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 23 16:06
MinceRhttp://explosm.net/comics/1999/Dec 23 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)Dec 23 16:24
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DaemonFC[m]Does anyone know of an app that fits in well under GNOME and can display epub books?Dec 23 17:17
DaemonFC[m]Hmm, I found an application called "Bookworm" on Flathub.Dec 23 17:27
MinceRi don't know of any non-gnome apps that are shoddy enough to fit gnome wellDec 23 17:27
MinceRat least those that can run on lendowsDec 23 17:28
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/U3oE1AK.gifvDec 23 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurDec 23 17:29
MinceRmaybe with wine you could find something that's broken and bloated enough :>Dec 23 17:29
DaemonFC[m]https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48914071_324023681775778_3134264672157433856_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=d217bd2f9fb2ec3e7bfbe1e2ffe5a37f&oe=5C8D31FCDec 23 17:36
DaemonFC[m]I found this on Flathub.Dec 23 17:36
DaemonFC[m]It's called "Bookworm".Dec 23 17:36
DaemonFC[m]The HIG is a little macOS-ish, but it works fine.Dec 23 17:36
DaemonFC[m]It's not trying to do a million things at once, all of them poorly.Dec 23 17:36
DaemonFC[m]And the license is GPL v3.Dec 23 17:37
MinceRwell, gnome has been heavily macos-ish since version 2Dec 23 17:38
DaemonFC[m]GNOME 3, really.Dec 23 17:43
MinceRthey copied the crApple HIG for gnome2 alreadyDec 23 17:46
MinceRand it got the shuffled dialog buttons from it tooDec 23 17:46
schestowitzMinceR: CAR scan Dec 23 17:47
schestowitzMinceR: CAT scan Dec 23 17:47
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: why use FB CDN?Dec 23 17:47
schestowitzIIRC you were on mastodon/fediverse..Dec 23 17:47
MinceRindeedDec 23 17:54
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I just turned that into a web application with GNOME Web.Dec 23 17:54
DaemonFC[m]And I'm back.Dec 23 17:54
MinceRschestowitz: or a copycatDec 23 17:54
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DaemonFC[m]I keep my Facebook account because it's like trying to get away from a black hole.Dec 23 17:58
DaemonFC[m]The government is running perpetual background checks on me anyway because I live with John.Dec 23 18:01
DaemonFC[m]I always get TSA Precheck because they deemed me "low risk".Dec 23 18:01
DaemonFC[m]If there's anything that proves that the TSA is pointless, it's precheck. Dec 23 18:02
DaemonFC[m]The first time I went through, I was like "That's it?".Dec 23 18:02
DaemonFC[m]You keep your shoes on, you don't go through a body scanner. Nothing comes out of your bags.Dec 23 18:02
DaemonFC[m]It's like airport security was in 2000.Dec 23 18:03
DaemonFC[m]College Humor made fun of it. Dec 23 18:03
schestowitzthe rich want different rulesDec 23 18:11
schestowitzand fast lanesDec 23 18:11
schestowitzin Berlin they actually let us keep shoes on last week, but the airport was utterly terribleDec 23 18:12
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: don't travel by airDec 23 18:12
schestowitzI promised to do this only once in 2 yearsDec 23 18:12
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schestowitzit's a rather disgusting experience, so let this 'industry' sufferDec 23 18:13
MinceRwhether they let my shoes on seems randomDec 23 18:13
MinceRs/let/& me keep/Dec 23 18:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There was this asian guy that breached security the other day.Dec 23 18:15
DaemonFC[m]He ran through the exit lane shouting "SANK YOU!!!! SANK YOU!!!!" and the TSA agents lost track of him.Dec 23 18:15
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/hCWsG17.jpgDec 23 18:15
DaemonFC[m]The FBI had to get him off the plane. Dec 23 18:15
MinceRso, whom did he sink?Dec 23 18:16
DaemonFC[m]The Keystone Kops, apparently. Dec 23 18:16
DaemonFC[m]:)Dec 23 18:16
MinceR:)Dec 23 18:17
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: "Oh by day I important execcutive but at night I naughty boy!"Dec 23 18:18
DaemonFC[m]There's just no telling. I think my favorite part of The Man in the High Castle was when that antiques dealer said "I swear their brains are different.".Dec 23 18:19
MinceR:)Dec 23 18:20
DaemonFC[m]According to John, a bunch of Chinese men walked up and pretended not to speak any English and they were not cooperating with security procedures.Dec 23 18:20
DaemonFC[m]So he said, "Okay, your flight is canceled." and they all spoke English after that.Dec 23 18:20
DaemonFC[m]It's a ploy. It helps them be difficult. They think you'll make exceptions just to get them to go away if you think they don't understand you. But, I could see anyone trying to pull that, honestly. Dec 23 18:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I see people are still posting to try to find out if any browsers support Windows XP or Vista.Dec 23 18:24
DaemonFC[m]Ugh.Dec 23 18:24
DaemonFC[m]Firefox and Chrome would be options again if they installed any GNU/Linux distribution.Dec 23 18:25
DaemonFC[m]It can't be more difficult to use GNU/Linux than it is to try to keep Windows XP going at this point.Dec 23 18:25
MinceRfinding a GNU/Linux distro has become definitely more difficultDec 23 18:26
MinceRespecially if you don't want crap like libsystemd sitting around, waiting for a "security update"Dec 23 18:26
DaemonFC[m]I switched my dbus over to dbus-broker for the hell of it.Dec 23 18:30
DaemonFC[m]No immediately obvious changes.Dec 23 18:30
DaemonFC[m]According to the documentation, it's Linux-only, which I'm sure will drive the BSD people nuts. Dec 23 18:30
MinceRprovided the bsd people give a fuck about dbugsDec 23 18:37
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118756 [https://pleroma.site/objects/98f9dd71-3822-486c-bf61-7d930c9bffae]Dec 23 18:39
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/wws0GkzDec 23 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-fi / Dystopian / Cyberpunk Art Dump - Album on ImgurDec 23 18:45
schestowitzkaniini: upon closer look, maybe EDD works OK and passes and it's the next thing, unspecified, where it just hangsDec 23 19:30
schestowitzis someone here good with qemu and can help with a VM that just stopped booting?Dec 23 19:30
kaniiniif we can change the grub configDec 23 19:31
kaniinithen we could remove quiet bootDec 23 19:31
kaniinisorry i am a little busy.  somebody copied large parts of pleroma's codebase and did not provide copyright attribution as required by AGPLDec 23 19:31
schestowitzhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/18297016/vir-install-virtual-machine-hang-on-probbing-eddDec 23 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | kvm - vir-install virtual machine hang on Probbing EDD - Stack OverflowDec 23 19:31
schestowitzkaniini: no worries, it's not as urgent as pleromaDec 23 19:32
schestowitzI am VEEERY relieved tuxmachines works OK nowDec 23 19:32
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19301Dec 23 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 19301 – Scripts panel forgets content when docking/undockingDec 23 19:32
DaemonFC[m]Uh, no.Dec 23 19:32
schestowitztechrights worked perfectly before, so I'm sure one way or another we can bring it back up, I can bring it up to date and update DNS myselfDec 23 19:32
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193013Dec 23 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193013 – [GTK] Webkit does nothing when using "select all" text in a Facebook "Create Post" field.Dec 23 19:32
DaemonFC[m]That oneDec 23 19:32
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193011Dec 23 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193011 – [GTK] Bad performance on Intel Iris 540 graphics with accelerated compositing enabledDec 23 19:33
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193001Dec 23 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193001 – [GTK] Chicago Public Library's BiblioCommons site unusable with accelerated compositing enabled on X11.Dec 23 19:34
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192982Dec 23 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 192982 – [GTK] Garbled rendering on Youtube while scrolling under X11.Dec 23 19:34
DaemonFC[m]I've found another one that I'm submitting now.Dec 23 19:34
DaemonFC[m]https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193014Dec 23 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193014 – [GTK] Webkit occasionally deletes all text from an input field when using "select all".Dec 23 19:36
DaemonFC[m]Good gravy.Dec 23 19:37
DaemonFC[m]I think I finally found something with more bugs than Firefox.Dec 23 19:37
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: GNOME pops up a message. "Achievement Unlocked: Buggier than Bloatzilla Failfox.".Dec 23 19:41
MinceR:>Dec 23 19:41
DaemonFC[m]Just as I say that "Firefox has crashed. Unfortunately it did not leave a crash dump file."Dec 23 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, because I have ptrace disabled, I suppose.Dec 23 19:50
DaemonFC[m]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PtraceDec 23 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ptrace - WikipediaDec 23 19:51
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: at least it's FOSS and not centralisedDec 23 19:52
schestowitzso better than mozilla firefoxDec 23 19:52
schestowitzhelp promote these thingsDec 23 19:52
schestowitzas otherwise we end up with 'facebooks' of browsersDec 23 19:52
DaemonFC[m]"Apple's Mac OS X also implements ptrace as a system call. Apple's version adds a special option PT_DENY_ATTACH - if a process invokes this option on itself, subsequent attempts to ptrace the process will fail. Apple uses this feature to limit the use of debuggers on programs that manipulate DRM-ed content, including iTunes."Dec 23 19:52
DaemonFC[m]But of course they do.Dec 23 19:52
schestowitzcentralised data-hoarding blobsDec 23 19:52
schestowitzI still use qupzilla btwDec 23 19:53
DaemonFC[m]What a nasty operating system. It also disables screenshots while you're playing a movie.Dec 23 19:53
schestowitzsince you pointed me at itDec 23 19:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: drm in 'secure' channelsDec 23 19:53
schestowitznobody should use osuxDec 23 19:53
schestowitzdef. not  jim zemlinDec 23 19:53
schestowitzbut he made a working group for movie studios this yearDec 23 19:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was reading a piracy forum the other day and they suggested avoiding Windows 10.Dec 23 20:03
DaemonFC[m]Some other guy asked why.Dec 23 20:03
DaemonFC[m]And someone else chimed in that it's because it reports back everything about your computer and you to Microsoft, including programs you are using and presumably the full contents of your hard drive. Dec 23 20:03
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's not just speculation. There arer "features" of Windows 10 that admit they do as much. "Windows Defender" says that by using it, you agree to send Microsoft samples of software that they haven't encountered before so they can decide if it's "malicious" or not. So, it says right there that it will lift files off your drive as it scans them and upload them to Microsoft. Dec 23 20:04
DaemonFC[m]Of course, Microsoft does not care if people know, and neither does the government.Dec 23 20:08
DaemonFC[m]They love it when people hand them a slam dunk case by letting Windows 10 incriminate them for something, sure, but people knowing that they're being watched means that they will be too afraid to act in certain ways. For example, when the government asks ISPs to turn over data about everyone who accessed a site about an anti-Trump protest and it makes the news, it doesn't matter whether the government gets a courtDec 23 20:09
DaemonFC[m]order for the data (that they probably had anyway).Dec 23 20:09
DaemonFC[m]The whole point of turning it into a media spectacle is to make people fear for their safety if they read certain websites.Dec 23 20:10
XRevan86In ST:TNG it's pretty annoying how exactly the same all humanoid extraterrestrials look like.Dec 23 20:26
XRevan86it's just humans with some bumps on their headsDec 23 20:27
XRevan86and the bumps are very much alike…Dec 23 20:27
XRevan86Honestly, I don't know why they bother with bumps, they don't eliminate the obvious questions, just add more extra ones.Dec 23 20:32
DaemonFC[m]LibreJS breaks the layout on the FSF's directory site.Dec 23 20:50
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oiaohmXRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)  There is a char introduced to attempt to explain that.   Q and Trelane,    Yes lets add insane gods creating universe in their image for fun.Dec 23 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Q (Star Trek) - WikipediaDec 23 21:30
XRevan86oiaohm: Oh, so there will be an explanation…Dec 23 21:31
oiaohmXRevan86: there is a explaination in the startrek books.Dec 23 21:31
XRevan86I do know about Q of course, after all, he was introduced in the second or third episode of the series.Dec 23 21:31
oiaohmQ is renamed the Trelane was too much of a mouth ful.Dec 23 21:32
oiaohmBasically a limited number of races created the complete star trek universe and they lacked massive creativity Dec 23 21:33
oiaohmXRevan86: think of each race as a sitcom set up by the Q race.Dec 23 21:34
oiaohmXRevan86: and then look at out tv sitcoms how like they look because lot of cases writers get lazy.Dec 23 21:35
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oiaohmXRevan86: if you watch the Star trek animated series you will see that the chars were not meant to look very close to each other.  Early startrek did not have enough budget.     First start treks female com officer speech patterns are explains in the animated when you work out she is meant to be a cat women with tail and all.Dec 23 21:39
XRevan86Now I am lacking context to grokDec 23 21:40
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/5GlaEE6Dec 23 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you are bored at work... - Album on ImgurDec 23 21:42
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oiaohmXRevan86: Uhura  from first star trek is officially now recorded as human.    There was a eposide in the Animated where she was draw as a cat women and that turns out because in the original star-trek script that was the assigned race cut due to make-up and other costs.Dec 23 21:47
*XRevan86 has only seen one episode of ToSDec 23 21:48
*XRevan86 was not aware there is ST:TASDec 23 21:49
oiaohmBasically attempting to keep char style starting off with insanely low budget restricted varation in char looks at start.   Now to keep continuity of chars having a low cost start does cause problems.Dec 23 21:49
XRevan86oh, I also saw the first ST movie, that counts as TOS I guess.Dec 23 21:49
oiaohmand they attempt to explain it away latter in the story with Q.Dec 23 21:50
oiaohmReally I am annoyed with the reboot of star trek as they had the chance with modern tech to go back and redo the original scripts with all the varation in races.Dec 23 21:51
XRevan86oiaohm: Do you mean Discovery or the Abrams ST?Dec 23 21:51
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XRevan86or both?Dec 23 21:51
oiaohmXRevan86: I am refering to where they have Chris Pine as James T. Kirk  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film_series)#Reboot_(Kelvin_Timeline)_films  there are 3 that are called reboot films so far.Dec 23 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Star Trek (film series) - WikipediaDec 23 21:54
oiaohmXRevan86: basically where they are starting the story completely over.Dec 23 21:54
XRevan86oiaohm: Those are Ambrams', yesDec 23 21:54
XRevan86Abrams'Dec 23 21:55
XRevan86they are… pretty lameDec 23 21:55
oiaohmand they really did not take advantage of the reboot to fix the faults instead made more by adding more timeline bending.Dec 23 21:56
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oiaohmXRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville << I am looking forward to the next in this series.Dec 23 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Orville - WikipediaDec 23 22:01
XRevan86What I do like about ST:TNG a lot is how reasonable the crew and Picard are. I am tired of tropes in moral decision-making in films.Dec 23 22:02
XRevan86but there were a few "unfortunate deaths" just so they wouldn't have to deal with the morality of judging criminals.Dec 23 22:03
XRevan86oiaohm: I am hoping it will cut the humourDec 23 22:03
XRevan86oiaohm: Seth MacFarlane is a comedy writer, and ironically that's the worst part I find in his series.Dec 23 22:04
XRevan86Maybe the jokes in The Orville are a subtle allusion on the jokes ST:TNG makes to show Data's failure to appreciate themDec 23 22:06
XRevan86because I am reliably on Data's side %)Dec 23 22:06
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XRevan86That genuinely feels intentional, because in other cases ST:TNG doesn't fail to humour meDec 23 22:08
XRevan86only when Data's around the humour suddenly drops to "and now we'll throw a pie into his face and call it the miracle of humanity"Dec 23 22:09
DaemonFC[m]I'm trying to find an ebook version of Isis Orb, #40 in the Xanth series.Dec 23 22:10
DaemonFC[m]If I can't find it without DRM, I might have to go to the library.Dec 23 22:10
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That's because Daemons Don't DRM.Dec 23 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Oddly enough, archive.org has Demon's Don't Dream in HTML format.Dec 23 22:12
DaemonFC[m]Not sure if that's legal or not, but who cares?Dec 23 22:12
DaemonFC[m]Most of these novels are so old that the only place you're likely to find a copy is in a used book store somewhere.Dec 23 22:12
DaemonFC[m]I saw several at The Armadillo's Pillow, but it wasn't anything close to a full set.Dec 23 22:13
DaemonFC[m]And who wants #17, #21, and #26 in a series of over 40 books?Dec 23 22:13
oiaohmXRevan86 I do agree Orville without the overly direct comedy would have been way better.  But at least each one has a fairly well planned out story.Dec 23 22:13
DaemonFC[m]The Orville is a better Star Trek. Dec 23 22:15
DaemonFC[m]The episodes of all of the Star Trek TV series so far, with the exception of Discovery, have been kind of dry, and with an emphasis on not offending people at the time, with occasional interruptions. Dec 23 22:16
DaemonFC[m]I remember my dad grousing about "men wearing dresses" on TNG, and I was like "So what? Nobody's making you wear a dress.".Dec 23 22:16
DaemonFC[m]Then there was the TOS episode where Kirk and Uhura kissed that was so scandalous (in certain parts of the US) at the time that it was pre-empted with a re-run in most of the south.Dec 23 22:17
XRevan86https://youtu.be/g2OwcRfhfEM?t=2282Dec 23 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Il bisbetico domato - Adriano Celentano 1980 - YouTubeDec 23 22:20
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566663.jpgDec 23 23:15
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18091122Dec 23 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 23 23:48
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/scUUYQf.gifvDec 24 00:09
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DaemonFC[m]I got WinPlay3 2.3-beta 5 runnin on Wine.Dec 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]*runningDec 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]It can still play back a VBR MP3 encoded by LAME 3.100. Dec 24 00:13
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/wROvXnR.jpgDec 24 02:21
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568364.pngDec 24 02:41
scienteshttps://althealthworks.com/14200/pigs-reproductive-issues-gmo-cornyelena/Dec 24 02:42
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scientesso now the question is whether breeding pigs are fed gmos, or if it explicitely excluded from the breeding pigs dietsDec 24 02:42
scientescause that would be quite damningDec 24 02:42
scienteshttp://www.justlabelit.org/pigs-a-gmo-feeding-trial-exposes-problems/Dec 24 02:43
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scientesso the precentage of work-aged individuals that are unemployeed in the US in 2016, was 49%Dec 24 02:49
scientesthat is the real unemployeement rateDec 24 02:49
scientesand that doesn't count those with crappy, useless service jobsDec 24 02:49
scientesGR horseweed is now wide-spread throughout much the US cropland.Dec 24 02:58
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scientesdamn the radiation of Fukishima killed some robotsDec 24 03:04
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568421.pngDec 24 03:11
scienteshttps://www.sciencealert.com/the-robots-sent-into-fukushima-have-died <<===dead robots because of Fukishima radiationDec 24 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencealert.com | The Robots Sent Into Fukushima Have 'Died'Dec 24 03:11
scientesFUCKDec 24 03:11
MinceRthey'll need to build more resistant robotsDec 24 03:12
scientesbut just think how deadly it would be to humansDec 24 03:15
MinceRyeahDec 24 03:18
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oiaohmMinceR: kind of right on build stronger robots.Dec 24 03:21
oiaohmHave worked with mining  using hydraulic driven machines. Dec 24 03:21
oiaohmThose can get you back about 500 metres when using fiber optical for vision.Dec 24 03:22
oiaohmThere are no electronics,    Using for mining areas of highly radioactive ores.Dec 24 03:23
scientesoiaohm, but this thing had to swim in a radioactive gooDec 24 03:27
oiaohmHumans 100-200 Rad kills us.   Silicon 5000 Rad start killing them over years instant kill 10000 rad.Dec 24 03:28
oiaohmscientes: that is the problem.  Most of the hydraulic remote mining equipment is design that its digging its own nice flat floored tunnel. Dec 24 03:30
oiaohmPlease note some of those remote hydraulic mining equipment is hybrid.   So silicon based controller/robot gets X radition level then mines forwards with the hydraulic,Dec 24 03:31
oiaohmAnd X radition level is above what will kill a human and the face is above what will kill a silicon based robot.Dec 24 03:32
oiaohmscientes: basically that is what exists today.   Taken something like that and making it work in Fukishima will be a hard up hill battle.Dec 24 03:33
oiaohmMost if the mining hydraulic gear does not float.   It is the true sinking stone.Dec 24 03:34
scientesFukishima is leaking radioactivity into the oceanDec 24 03:35
scienteslots of itDec 24 03:35
scientesradioactive waste has the potential to end life on this planet by making human too infertileDec 24 03:36
scientesthe women have to keep those eggs viable until pubertyDec 24 03:37
oiaohmReally no.Dec 24 03:37
scienteshttp://wilsonweb.physics.harvard.edu/soundscience/Al-Azzawi.pdfDec 24 03:38
oiaohmscientes: Ranger in Northern Territory of Australia is where the horrible gear I was taking about being requried early on.   It was leaking naturally more radation into the sea than Fukishima is.  Yes it made a completely dead river.Dec 24 03:38
oiaohmSo locally people are going to have problems globally no.Dec 24 03:39
oiaohmscientes: the really no is on the level of Fukishima leak to ocean.   The ocean is able to deal with scary amount of radioactivity quite well.Dec 24 03:41
oiaohmIn fact levels above what humans can tollerate.Dec 24 03:41
oiaohmscientes: wars without radioactive waste get the childen at the time another way.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis   Cleaning up the distroyed building without correct dust masks and the like that this can result in lethal exposure if radioactive waste rounds are usingDec 24 03:44
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oiaohmor Silicosis that is a slow painful death.Dec 24 03:45
scientesoiaohm, yes i am awareDec 24 03:58
scientesradioactive silicosisDec 24 03:58
oiaohmscientes: even without radioactive silicosis can still be quickly fatal.Dec 24 04:04
oiaohmOr at least fatal before being able to breed.Dec 24 04:04
oiaohmYou are seeing in video out of Syria where children are doing clean up.Dec 24 04:05
oiaohmAnd that is with no form of protection not even a basic fabric dust mask.Dec 24 04:05
scientesBREXIT, BREXIT, BREXITDec 24 04:43
scientesthere is so much propaganda for discarding the voteDec 24 04:43
scientesschestowitz, what is your view on Brexit?Dec 24 04:43
scientesXRevan86, you know, in regards to censorship, Google is a big threat if there ISN"T censorshipDec 24 05:30
scientessame for Facebook (and easier to block)Dec 24 05:30
DaemonFC[m]Throw my neighbors into the reactor and see how long they live.Dec 24 05:45
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scienteshttps://www.businessinsider.com/google-employee-lives-in-truck-in-parking-lot-2015-10Dec 24 06:39
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-cqbjcVBqYDec 24 08:30
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scientesoiaohm, 1000 sieverts over pacific ocean https://youtu.be/lC17UeFzzQE?t=661Dec 24 08:41
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scientesthe government are lying to usDec 24 08:42
scientesnah that number seems wierdDec 24 08:44
scientes(and yes, I am aware of the massive amount of nuclear testing in the hawaiian atollsDec 24 08:46
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schestowitz[02:42] <scientes> https://althealthworks.com/14200/pigs-reproductive-issues-gmo-cornyelena/Dec 24 09:31
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schestowitz[02:43] <scientes> http://www.justlabelit.org/pigs-a-gmo-feeding-trial-exposes-problems/Dec 24 09:31
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schestowitzdedicated anti-GMO sites can be a little over-dramaticDec 24 09:31
schestowitzand help those who call the critics "irrational phobia"Dec 24 09:31
schestowitz[03:15] <scientes> but just think how deadly it would be to humansDec 24 09:39
schestowitz Like that famous helicopter crash atop Chernobyl (wings/propellers 'dissolveDec 24 09:39
schestowitz[04:43] <scientes> schestowitz, what is your view on Brexit?Dec 24 09:40
schestowitzBrexit is terribleDec 24 09:40
schestowitzthe propaganda as you call it was the BrexitersDec 24 09:40
schestowitzmostly anti-EU and anti-Islam hate-mongering/fearmongeringDec 24 09:40
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oiaohmscientes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC17UeFzzQE&feature=youtu.be&t=661   did you watch the near the end of that video with a standard plate.Dec 24 10:10
oiaohmscientes: there is quite a bit around us quite decently radioactive and that was before Fukushima.Dec 24 10:11
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oiaohmscientes: there is limited reason to be highly worried about Fukushima.   Most people are not aware how much Mining of ranger in north of Australia reduced the pacific ocean radation load.   Fukushima leakage will only bring the pacific back to 1/10 of the radiation load it use to be.Dec 24 10:16
oiaohmAt worst.Dec 24 10:16
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scientesschestowitz, yeah i eat GMO foods, I think the main risk is the fact that it creates a cabal that has a monopoly over seed, which is not only a economic threat, but a national security oneDec 24 11:12
scientesalso, one bug could whipe out the whole crop, and storing grain isn't in fashion like it use to beDec 24 11:12
scientesLuke 'Ming' Flanagan (Irish MP) isn't anti-IslamDec 24 11:15
scientesbut I will admit Farage isDec 24 11:15
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XRevan86> you know, in regards to censorship, Google is a big threat if there ISN"T censorshipDec 24 13:35
XRevan86scientes: Google hasn't been caught pushing anti-Putin agenda.Dec 24 13:36
XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsru.com%2Frussia%2F24dec2018%2Fpeskov.htmlDec 24 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateDec 24 13:57
XRevan86> At the Putin's Press Conference under the guise of journalists came slanderers and complainers, complains PeskovDec 24 13:58
XRevan86amusingDec 24 13:59
scientesXRevan86, i'm just saying that long-run both of these companies are foreign spiesDec 24 16:09
XRevan86Both? Which one is the second one?Dec 24 16:10
scientesGoogle and FacebookDec 24 16:10
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_agentDec 24 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Foreign agent - WikipediaDec 24 16:11
XRevan86scientes: That makes sense, but here's the trickDec 24 16:12
scientesI think the bigger reality is that these companies are run by younger people, that arn't stupid to think Russia is an enemyDec 24 16:12
scientesthey are playing a longer gameDec 24 16:12
XRevan86scientes: The only thing United Russia wants from Google is so that it will block content at a whimDec 24 16:13
XRevan86And so that the Russian citizens' data is stored on the territory of the RF.Dec 24 16:14
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/P2ZbzWS.jpgDec 24 16:14
scientesmy guess is that the AI technologies just arn't that advanced yet, and all that personal data really still is just useful for selling thingsDec 24 16:15
scientesbut google is on most web-sites (analytics, ad-sense particularly), and so they can kinda watch everywhere you goDec 24 16:16
scientesfor most usersDec 24 16:16
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2018/12/24/96b94d105c22f15f.jpgDec 24 16:17
XRevan86scientes: Good thing we have uBlockDec 24 16:18
scientesyeahDec 24 16:18
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schestowitz[13:58] <XRevan86> > At the Putin's Press Conference under the guise of journalists came slanderers and complainers, complains PeskovDec 24 16:20
schestowitzjournalism should be left to his government, e.g. RT and Sputnik :-)Dec 24 16:21
MinceR:>Dec 24 16:22
schestowitz[16:09] <scientes> XRevan86, i'm just saying that long-run both of these companies are foreign spiesDec 24 16:23
schestowitzDuterte now uses similar argumentsDec 24 16:23
XRevan86schestowitz: First they brag that they've made an open press conference, unlike the charade that was before, then "oh my, what happened, why all the questions not about the might and glory of the state?"Dec 24 16:23
schestowitzLike Marcos, he's not known for enduring criticismDec 24 16:23
schestowitzXRevan86: hahahaDec 24 16:23
schestowitzwelcome to a real democracy, where pillars mostly watch one anotherDec 24 16:23
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568397.jpgDec 24 16:25
XRevan86Pretty tiresome how far all these "powers that be" are from reality.Dec 24 16:27
XRevan86A complaint I've heard about this press conference is that when Putin gives a non-answer, a journalist couldn't try againDec 24 16:47
XRevan86that there was no dialogue, only a question and a replyDec 24 16:47
XRevan86and that was exploited to the deathDec 24 16:47
MinceRfidesz members love non-answersDec 24 16:50
MinceRlike when orban responded to every question with "merry christmas!"Dec 24 16:51
XRevan86Putin's non-answers weren't THAT non-answery :)Dec 24 16:54
XRevan86MinceR: This may be an academy recordDec 24 16:55
XRevan86Putin to Orban: https://youtu.be/dzttK-8vvoIDec 24 16:56
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schestowitz[16:50] <MinceR> fidesz members love non-answersDec 24 17:14
schestowitzMerry xmas!Dec 24 17:14
MinceRindeedDec 24 17:16
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scienteshttps://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/a93t2z/chinese_tourists_discovering_the_joys_of_protest/Dec 24 19:23
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scienteshttps://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-mk-lauds-chinese-re-education-camps-for-muslims-as-tool-to-combat-terror-1.6766988Dec 24 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Israeli lawmaker lauds Chinese 're-education' camps for Muslim minority as tool to combat terror - Israel News - Haaretz.comDec 24 19:43
scientesnot really suprising, but the irony is deafeningDec 24 19:43
scientes"Zionists for concentration camps"Dec 24 19:43
schestowitzhaDec 24 19:52
schestowitzlooks like one really stupid congresspersonDec 24 19:52
schestowitznot even from a centrist/left partyDec 24 19:53
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oiaohmscientes: history of china has them using education heavily on their local muslim populations.  Induding absolutely forbidding their own schools.Dec 24 20:07
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1812219Dec 24 20:10
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oiaohmscientes: :   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China  << Look at the map here.  The look at the Australian collected data.  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/satellite-images-expose-chinas-network-of-re-education-camps/10432924Dec 24 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Islam in China - WikipediaDec 24 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Satellite images expose China's vast network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)Dec 24 20:11
XRevan86> statically typed feels unwiseDec 24 20:11
XRevan86no!Dec 24 20:11
oiaohmscientes: the most common people in China re-education camps is in fact Muslims.Dec 24 20:11
oiaohmAnd that has been the case for over 2 thousand years.Dec 24 20:12
oiaohmI would not call china re-education camps 100 percent successful its a never end tred mill that slows the problem down.Dec 24 20:12
oiaohmHow to solve the religion raditcal problem no one really has the solution.Dec 24 20:14
MinceRhow will they solve the communism problem though?Dec 24 20:20
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scientesoiaohm, what is the problem?Dec 24 20:21
scientesMinceR, thats what the CCP is wondering too https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.htmlDec 24 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | China’s Leaders Confront an Unlikely Foe: Ardent Young Communists - The New York TimesDec 24 20:21
MinceRit also won't work on religious nutcases e.g. in the usaDec 24 20:21
MinceRscientes: they don't realize they're part of the problem themselvesDec 24 20:21
MinceRbut i think in the end, the human species is working on a solution to all of thisDec 24 20:22
*scientes thinks he is part of the problem too.Dec 24 20:22
MinceRglobal warming, overpopulation, religious warsDec 24 20:22
MinceRthen maybe intelligent life that's more resistant to memetic pathogens will emerge on Earth eventuallyDec 24 20:23
scientesyou think islam is a pathogen?Dec 24 20:23
schestowitzMaybe can wait in Mars till the dust settlesDec 24 20:23
schestowitza colony to last a month until Putler and Trumpler run out of nukesDec 24 20:24
scientesschestowitz, mars is the only planet populated by robotsDec 24 20:24
schestowitzwhat about Earth?Dec 24 20:24
scientesentirelyDec 24 20:24
XRevan86> how will they solve the communism problem though?Dec 24 20:24
XRevan86MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Hunger_strikes_beginDec 24 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1989 Tiananmen Square protests - WikipediaDec 24 20:25
MinceR24 212343 <+scientes> you think islam is a pathogen?Dec 24 20:25
XRevan86> The students sang The Internationale, the world socialist anthem, on their way to, and at, the square.Dec 24 20:25
MinceRyesDec 24 20:25
XRevan86This problem? %)Dec 24 20:25
MinceRand so are all the other abrahamic religionsDec 24 20:25
MinceRand so's communismDec 24 20:25
MinceRand so's fascismDec 24 20:25
scientesfascism isn't really a religionDec 24 20:26
scientesits just tyrannyDec 24 20:26
scienteswithout any ideology at allDec 24 20:26
scienteswell, it aspires to be a new romeDec 24 20:26
scientesso i guess it has that going for itDec 24 20:26
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/0SFeCoz.gifvDec 24 20:26
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MinceRwell, i've seen plenty of fascist ideologyDec 24 20:26
XRevan86scientes: "Fascism" is first and foremost the _ideology_ of MussoliniDec 24 20:27
MinceRnational socialism is also relatedDec 24 20:27
XRevan86Hitler's Nazist ideology is somewhere near, yes.Dec 24 20:28
MinceRand of course the alt-reichDec 24 20:28
scientesI have a right hand and a left hand, does that make me schizophrenic?Dec 24 20:29
MinceRi don't think it doesDec 24 20:30
scienteshow about supporting both democracy, and Plato's Republic?Dec 24 20:30
MinceRi don't know Plato's RepublicDec 24 20:31
MinceRdemocracy is a nice idea, i wish we had people it could be implemented withDec 24 20:31
XRevan86MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)Dec 24 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Republic (Plato) - WikipediaDec 24 20:31
scientesMinceR, that just shows that you don't know what democracy isDec 24 20:32
scientesXRevan86, isn't Plato's Republic an incredible book?Dec 24 20:32
XRevan86scientes: I didn't read it, only know the basic ideas from lecturesDec 24 20:33
scientesit isn't longDec 24 20:33
XRevan86Still seems like a waste of timeDec 24 20:33
scientesI got lucky and found a old 1950s translation too, before the crazies came inDec 24 20:33
scientesXRevan86, it has the ideas behind *The Matrix*Dec 24 20:34
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scientesand a number of other thingsDec 24 20:34
XRevan86The Matrix isn't that great though %)Dec 24 20:34
*XRevan86 hidesDec 24 20:34
MinceRscientes: oh, i didn't know "democracy" was having a few million people deciding they didn't want "democracy" and implementing dictatorship insteadDec 24 20:34
scientesMinceR, oh ok, we are on the same pageDec 24 20:35
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scientesXRevan86, seriously, I recommend itDec 24 20:39
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scientesIt doesn't insult your intelligenceDec 24 20:41
XRevan86The good state is the one that successfully secures the true interests of the population majority.Dec 24 20:42
scientesAlso, Aristophanes is quite funny https://youtu.be/Q-mkVSasZIM?t=275Dec 24 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Persians & Greeks: Crash Course World History #5 - YouTubeDec 24 20:42
MinceRthat can be trickyDec 24 20:42
scientesyeah, Republic is a bit more nuanced than thatDec 24 20:42
MinceRafter all, killing and taking everything from a minority and dividing it among the majority is in the interest of the majorityDec 24 20:42
scientesmaybeDec 24 20:43
XRevan86I am yet to see an implementation of an aristocracy that delivers that better than the better democracies do.Dec 24 20:43
scientesits not arguing for oligarchy or monarchyDec 24 20:43
XRevan86scientes: I wonder if the USSR's design can count as an "aristocracy" in that sense.Dec 24 20:43
MinceRreminds me of the chinese "communist princess"Dec 24 20:44
scientesthe judge of who is "best" is always a matter of who decidesDec 24 20:44
scientesand Plato isn't hiding thatDec 24 20:44
XRevan86The general secretary of the party, who elseDec 24 20:44
MinceRlolDec 24 20:45
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMgo5yqCtHEDec 24 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spoiled Chinese Girl Says Her Daddy Will Kill You - YouTubeDec 24 20:45
XRevan86scientes: Same things happen in Russia tooDec 24 20:47
XRevan86Do such instances occur in the US?Dec 24 20:47
XRevan86> Rich 2nd generationDec 24 20:48
XRevan86jeunesse doréeDec 24 20:48
scientesprobably....the puritian influences are strong, and I think they are more ashamed and cliquishDec 24 20:50
MinceRlolDec 24 20:50
MinceRi guess this is Red China's new idea of population controlDec 24 20:51
scientesMinceR, what?Dec 24 20:51
MinceR"just run over some kids, it will be fine"Dec 24 20:51
scientesthat is kinda sillyDec 24 20:51
scientesit isn't many peopleDec 24 20:51
MinceRmaybe it's in betaDec 24 20:51
scientesMinceR, what about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4xQfGQCi9UDec 24 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China's AIDS Villages | China Uncensored - YouTubeDec 24 20:51
MinceRmaybe they need to have more bmws shipped inDec 24 20:51
scientesMinceR, they drive like maniacs thereDec 24 20:51
scientesXRevan86, seriously, Aristophanes made fun of aristocrats quite well https://youtu.be/Q-mkVSasZIM?t=251Dec 24 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Persians & Greeks: Crash Course World History #5 - YouTubeDec 24 20:54
scientes"under every stone lurks a politician. money the most excellent of gods"Dec 24 20:55
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Asian people are terrible drivers.Dec 24 20:55
DaemonFC[m]There's a family guy clip of that.Dec 24 20:55
scientesits actually just new drivers are bad drivers DaemonFC[m] Dec 24 20:55
MinceRwow @ aids villagesDec 24 20:55
DaemonFC[m]"GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE!"Dec 24 20:55
XRevan86FinallyDec 24 20:55
XRevan86proof that Russians are AsiansDec 24 20:55
DaemonFC[m]crosses three lanes without signaling causing a pile upDec 24 20:56
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86 I noticed that everyone in Russia has dash cams for some reason.Dec 24 20:56
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Not everyone, but they are common.Dec 24 20:56
scientesIf you take into account the time spent making money to pay for the car, walking is faster.Dec 24 20:56
DaemonFC[m]Or maybe it just seems that way?Dec 24 20:56
scientescars only serve as a status symbol and a slave-creation deviceDec 24 20:57
MinceRhow do you create slaves with a car?Dec 24 20:58
DaemonFC[m]https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/12/24/is-the-apple-watch-causing-a-run-on-emergency-room.aspxDec 24 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Apple Watch Causing a Run on Emergency Rooms? -- The Motley FoolDec 24 20:58
DaemonFC[m]People with Apple watches are running to the ER because the sensor tells them their heartbeat is irregular.Dec 24 20:59
DaemonFC[m]Could be a lot of things, including a sensor error, a bug in the software, not wearing the watch properly, throwing off the reading.Dec 24 20:59
MinceRlolDec 24 21:00
MinceRor it could be the usual crApple qualityDec 24 21:00
scientesDaemonFC[m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPAHu_zYDwDec 24 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keynote: Six Years Later, or Hey, did you ever get the source code to that thing in your heart? - YouTubeDec 24 21:00
MinceRYou're Holding It Wrong™Dec 24 21:00
DaemonFC[m]Yes, let's go to the ER and get a $16,000 bill over nothing because Apple Watch diagnosed an irregular heartbeat.Dec 24 21:00
MinceReh, they can afford itDec 24 21:00
MinceRthey can afford spending on some of the shoddiest and most overpriced watches available, they can afford to go to the ER for nothingDec 24 21:01
DaemonFC[m]MinceR It would be more appropriate to go to the Urgent Care and have a doctor there look at you.Dec 24 21:01
MinceRas long as it costs moreDec 24 21:01
DaemonFC[m]That way, the bill would be $200 if it turned out to be a false alarm.Dec 24 21:02
MinceRpft, that's not nearly expensive enough for a crApple userDec 24 21:02
DaemonFC[m]I'll bet ER doctors are loving all of the hypochondriacs that Apple has created.Dec 24 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.niemanlab.org/2018/12/towards-a-rethinking-of-journalism-on-social-media/Dec 24 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.niemanlab.org | Towards a rethinking of journalism on social media » Nieman Journalism LabDec 24 21:03
DaemonFC[m]Danny Vena owns shares of Apple. The Motley Fool owns shares of and recommends Apple.Dec 24 21:06
DaemonFC[m]LolDec 24 21:06
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, even as their stock has fallen 40% in 2 months?Dec 24 21:07
MinceRcognitive dissonanceDec 24 21:07
DaemonFC[m]The fake value is finally being shaken out of the system.Dec 24 21:07
scientesthere is no law in the USDec 24 21:07
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Yeah, I expect things will get worse.Dec 24 21:07
scientesanything that doesn't benifit the state is just relegated to arbitrationDec 24 21:07
DaemonFC[m]Full blown recession declared next year.Dec 24 21:07
scientesincluding contract law, the underpinning of legal systemsDec 24 21:08
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121839Dec 24 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 24 21:08
DaemonFC[m]scientes Yeah, basically every legal contract or job opening now has a binding arbitration agreement.Dec 24 21:08
scienteswhich means there is no rule of lawDec 24 21:08
DaemonFC[m]If you want to work, you have to agree never to sue your employer for anything.Dec 24 21:08
XRevan86MinceR: ?Dec 24 21:09
DaemonFC[m]scientes It's worse in some states than others.Dec 24 21:09
scientesDaemonFC[m], no, it is equally worse in all statesDec 24 21:09
MinceRXRevan86: ? ?Dec 24 21:09
XRevan86MinceR: What is the joke?Dec 24 21:09
DaemonFC[m]The Illinois government banned the practice of noncompete clauses in jobs that pay close to minimum wage.Dec 24 21:09
scienteswhich shouldn't really be called states at allDec 24 21:09
scientesthey are provincesDec 24 21:10
scientesprovinces with the ability to taxDec 24 21:10
DaemonFC[m]Jimmy Johns had a thing that said by taking a job at their sandwich shop, you wouldn't work for another restaurant within 3 miles for two years after your employment ended with them for any reason.Dec 24 21:10
MinceRXRevan86: Joe King ~ jokingDec 24 21:11
scientesDaemonFC[m], they only lost, because the courts didn't feel like enforcing itDec 24 21:11
XRevan86MinceR: i cDec 24 21:11
DaemonFC[m]The clause is normally found in executive contracts so they don't take trade secrets with them to a competitor.Dec 24 21:11
DaemonFC[m]In this case, Jimmy Johns was using it to try to keep wages down.Dec 24 21:11
scientesyeah but it is unenforcableDec 24 21:12
DaemonFC[m]I couldn't find any cases where they actually tried to enforce it though.Dec 24 21:12
XRevan86MinceR: My "inner voice" isn't very good at detecting homophone punsDec 24 21:12
scienteshow about homophobe puns? heheDec 24 21:12
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Walmart has the same thing, but it only applies while you are working at Walmart.Dec 24 21:12
scientes*homophobe bunsDec 24 21:12
DaemonFC[m]When I was at Walmart, the manager was comp shopping Family Dollar and found someone who was working a second job there.Dec 24 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Fired her from Walmart on the spot.Dec 24 21:13
scienteswhat is wrong with thatDec 24 21:13
scientesshe should sue for wrongful terminationDec 24 21:13
DaemonFC[m]No concern at all that she needed the job because Walmart pays dick and she had a family to take care of.Dec 24 21:13
scientesor rather, she should picket the wal-mart until they haul her awayDec 24 21:14
DaemonFC[m]scientes Things might have changed, but I doubt it. When I was there, if an employee asked for a raise, you were to tell them where the welfare office was.Dec 24 21:14
scientesand what about the manager shopping at Family Dollar, isn't that anti-loyal tooDec 24 21:15
DaemonFC[m]Comp shopping is required.Dec 24 21:15
DaemonFC[m]You take a device and scan things and put in the price and then the computer at Walmart lowers the prices and prints out new shelf labels.Dec 24 21:15
MinceR24 221244 <+scientes> how about homophobe puns? heheDec 24 21:15
MinceRhttps://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/oots/images/6/62/OOTS1043.png/revision/latest?cb=20160830193039Dec 24 21:15
scienteshomophobe bunsDec 24 21:15
DaemonFC[m]I was at Walmart so long ago that the terminals said SCO Unixware when they were booting up.Dec 24 21:17
DaemonFC[m]The whole thing was green screen and so on. Made requesting vacation days a nightmare.  They always got denied for some reason anyway though.Dec 24 21:18
DaemonFC[m]I had 2 months of vacation time they had to pay out when I left because it kept getting denied and accumulating.Dec 24 21:18
DaemonFC[m]They didn't let me take a single day off in over 2.5 years.Dec 24 21:19
DaemonFC[m]When I left, I told the new job I needed to turn in my notice and then just left Walmart.Dec 24 21:20
scientesUS violating soverignity of every nation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_ActDec 24 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act - WikipediaDec 24 21:22
DaemonFC[m]Took two weeks of me time and went fishing and played video games.Dec 24 21:22
DaemonFC[m]I like FATCA.Dec 24 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Makes it harder for rich people to hide all their money and make everyone else pay their taxes for them.Dec 24 21:23
DaemonFC[m]If only slightly.Dec 24 21:23
DaemonFC[m]The Republicans have tried repealing it.Dec 24 21:24
DaemonFC[m]The only reason I went to Walmart for eyeglasses is that everyone else in Chicago wants like $700 a pair.Dec 24 21:26
scientesagain, zenniDec 24 21:26
DaemonFC[m]You'd have to be insane to go to Pearle Vision, Lenscrafters,  etc.Dec 24 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Like flat out nuts.Dec 24 21:26
DaemonFC[m]I noticed Pearle has a 15% AARP discount, after they charge three times as much as Walmart.Dec 24 21:27
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, read the reviews of Pearle.Dec 24 21:27
DaemonFC[m]"I paid $1,400 for two pairs of glasses and then they made them wrong and wouldn't give my money back!"Dec 24 21:28
DaemonFC[m]Stuff like that.Dec 24 21:28
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: my last eyeglasses are frames I got from china for under 20AUD with 120 dollars worth of lens in them.Dec 24 21:29
DaemonFC[m]In some things the economics of the future are better.Dec 24 21:29
oiaohmand that is not a crap brand either.Dec 24 21:29
DaemonFC[m]Jamie Zawinski said DNA Lounge paid $538 for each 15" LCD monitor for their internet kiosks in 2001.Dec 24 21:29
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: eyeglasses edging?Dec 24 21:29
XRevan86framesDec 24 21:29
DaemonFC[m]Now you can get a fairly decent entire laptop for that with a pretty nice screen.Dec 24 21:30
scienteshow do i go about buying a rural farm in latin or south america?Dec 24 21:30
DaemonFC[m]Errr $583.Dec 24 21:30
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: 20 dollars for a true titatium glasses frame.Dec 24 21:31
DaemonFC[m]Don't you mean agricultural collective in a country with hyperinflation and empty shelves where they're eating zoo animals?Dec 24 21:31
DaemonFC[m]My frame coat $77.Dec 24 21:31
scientesDaemonFC[m], despite what you think there are many countries down thereDec 24 21:31
DaemonFC[m]The lenses were $86.50 apiece.Dec 24 21:31
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: my lenses are have lots of coating on them I liven in Australia I do outdoor work.  So I need UV, hardered and water replelling.Dec 24 21:32
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Memory-Titanium-Flexible-Full-flex-Large-Size-Aviator-Optical-Eyeglass-Frame-For-sunglasses-Spectacles-Eyewear-Rx/32839132733.html  << This is the frame I wear.Dec 24 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Memory Titanium Flexible Full flex Large Size Aviator Optical Eyeglass Frame For sunglasses Spectacles Eyewear Rx-in Eyewear Frames from Men's Clothing & Accessories on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba GroupDec 24 21:36
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: My frame cost is fairly much 20 AUD or less from china.  That same frame bought from a shop in Australia puts me back horriblely 99 dollars.   And I mean exactly the same frame brand and design.Dec 24 21:39
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: if that was 77 USD you might have been able to get the same frame cheeper direct from china.   At this lower cost I can have a spare frame or two sitting waiting to be used.Dec 24 21:40
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121832Dec 24 21:42
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121737Dec 24 22:02
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XRevan86MinceR: Not Buffy canon thoughDec 24 22:08
MinceR:)Dec 24 22:09
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121723Dec 24 22:24
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XRevan86https://librefox.org/Dec 24 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - intika/Librefox: Librefox, patching Firefox for an enforced privacy and securityDec 24 22:32
XRevan86I've seen some people move to Chromium because of the Ungoogled Chromium projectDec 24 22:33
XRevan86finally there's an analogue for FirefoxDec 24 22:33
MinceRdid they patch alsa support back in?Dec 24 22:35
XRevan86MinceR: that is unknownDec 24 22:38
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/G2oqc4g.jpgDec 24 22:46
DaemonFC[m]The quality of the WSJ's reporting is garbagge.Dec 24 22:54
DaemonFC[m]*garbageDec 24 22:54
DaemonFC[m]Who pays $20 a month to read this?Dec 24 22:55
DaemonFC[m]In the last 8 hours, they've gone through all five stages of grief over the stock market.Dec 24 22:55
scienteshttps://www.reddit.com/r/ShittyAskHawaii/comments/2pvp8t/how_do_i_ask_an_oriental_person_where_she_is_from/Dec 24 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | how do I ask an Oriental person where she is from? : ShittyAskHawaiiDec 24 23:12
*XRevan86 reads the titleDec 24 23:17
XRevan86"Where are you from?"Dec 24 23:18
XRevan86or more detailed: "Where from Asia is your family from?"Dec 24 23:18
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scientesThe Food Safety Modernization Act in the US is the most fascist thing the country has ever doneDec 24 23:25
scientesit gives the Federal government basically the ability to shut down any farmer at any time for any reasonDec 24 23:25
scientesit also allows the feds to tresspass on any farmDec 24 23:27
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568385.jpgDec 24 23:32
scientesit can be interpreted to give the federal government authority over pickling fermenting, and bakingDec 24 23:33
scientesthis law is fascistDec 24 23:34
scientesthey are just going to use it to sieze assetsDec 24 23:34
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XRevan86MinceR: The pun is so obvious I've found the sweater by DDG'ing itDec 24 23:35
XRevan86https://shinesty.com/products/santapede-christmas-sweaterDec 24 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shinesty.com | Men's Christmas Sweater | The Human SantapedeDec 24 23:35
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XRevan86Apparently there's also a novel under the same name…Dec 24 23:37
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DaemonFC[m]"OtherDec 25 00:31
DaemonFC[m] users pointed out that the number of bills on the desk didn't match theDec 25 00:31
DaemonFC[m] number of laws passed by the president that day which, according to govtrack.us, was two. No more bills have been signed since December 21, date of the tweet."Dec 25 00:31
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568359.jpgDec 25 00:51
DaemonFC[m]It's nice to see that Trump can pose with a stack of blank papers posing as bills (that Congress hasn't been passing) in the middle of a crisis.Dec 25 00:52
MinceRposing is a core competence for himDec 25 00:53
MinceRas is talking tough and bigDec 25 00:53
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/caylenb/status/1075583545446301696Dec 25 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@caylenb: it's my birthday, but more importantly today marks the 10 year anniversary of that time when I was working at a dat… https://t.co/X6IO111GuVDec 25 01:22
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scientesis the term caucasian basically a nazi term?Dec 25 01:23
scientescause I didn't come from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Mountains#/media/File:Caucasus_topographic_map-en.svgDec 25 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasus Mountains - WikipediaDec 25 01:24
scientesoh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_raceDec 25 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - WikipediaDec 25 01:24
XRevan86scientes: Why would it be?Dec 25 01:24
XRevan86I prefer Europid thoughDec 25 01:25
XRevan86mostly because I have contact with *actual* CaucasiansDec 25 01:25
XRevan86fun fact: Caucasians in Russia are sometimes referred to as "blacks"Dec 25 01:25
scientesit is more like this https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/Dec 25 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-genographic.nationalgeographic.com | Map of Human MigrationDec 25 01:25
scienteslolDec 25 01:25
scientesbecause they look a little turkish?Dec 25 01:26
XRevan86very black hair, darker skin than of an average RussianDec 25 01:27
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly%E2%80%93polar_bear_hybridDec 25 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Grizzly–polar bear hybrid - WikipediaDec 25 01:27
scientesguess there arn't many sub-saharan africans in russia :/Dec 25 01:27
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568255.jpgDec 25 01:27
scientesMinceR, that is a water-bear which is also hot, cold, and radiation resistantDec 25 01:28
XRevan86scientes: There are some, but not many, yeahDec 25 01:28
XRevan86mostly studentsDec 25 01:28
scientesI believe the US and Brazil have the most outside of africaDec 25 01:29
XRevan86On in big cities of courseDec 25 01:29
XRevan86* Only inDec 25 01:29
MinceRscientes: i knowDec 25 01:29
scienteswhat about east asians in russia?Dec 25 01:29
XRevan86* Only in both big citiesDec 25 01:29
XRevan86scientes: umDec 25 01:30
XRevan86scientes: A lot.Dec 25 01:30
scientesnon-russian east asians lolDec 25 01:30
scientesand the intuit are differn'tDec 25 01:30
scientesdamn what would the term be, cause of course many may be citizens of RussiaDec 25 01:30
XRevan86scientes: Oh, then dunno, probably next to nothingDec 25 01:30
scientesthere was a russian settlement that was on the wrong side of the russia-china border and now speaks chineseDec 25 01:31
scientesand is counted as a ethnic minority in chinaDec 25 01:31
XRevan86scientes: Do Kazakhs count?Dec 25 01:31
scientesthats pretty distinct in appearanceDec 25 01:32
XRevan86Kazakhstan is a separate county, albeit very culturally and economically close to Russia.Dec 25 01:32
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin_RussiansDec 25 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Harbin Russians - WikipediaDec 25 01:32
scientesalso Chinese Turkistan, which the Han Chinese are now in the process of massacringDec 25 01:33
scientesI now a Tajikistan womanDec 25 01:33
scientesknowDec 25 01:33
scientesshe knows RussianDec 25 01:33
MinceRInuit, not intuitDec 25 01:34
XRevan86scientes: Seems like the settlement is extinctDec 25 01:34
scientesXRevan86, these guys visited it recently, and it is depopulated a bit (and Russia offered them all citizenship and money recently) but there was clearly still a presence https://vimeo.com/ondemand/conqueringnorthernchinaDec 25 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Conquering Northern China Online | Vimeo On Demand on VimeoDec 25 01:35
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_PieDec 25 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eskimo Pie - WikipediaDec 25 01:35
XRevan86scientes: I'm reading the Russian Wikipedia article, and it says that the original population almost all left, and the current population mostly consists of immigrants from 1990sDec 25 01:36
XRevan86from RussiaDec 25 01:36
scienteswell that documentary where they actually visited contradicts everything in that articleDec 25 01:36
XRevan86> she knows RussianDec 25 01:37
XRevan86duh? :)Dec 25 01:37
scientesthere were ethnic fat russian women who knew only mandarinDec 25 01:37
XRevan86Is that an ethnicity? %)Dec 25 01:37
XRevan86Great Russia, Little Russia, White Russia, … Fat RussiaDec 25 01:38
scientesdrinking home-made vodkaDec 25 01:38
scienteswell i just wanted to say that despite not knowing the language, she preserved much russian cultureDec 25 01:39
*XRevan86 found this: https://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1601/bf/898df33afdfe.jpgDec 25 01:40
XRevan86by looking for "Русский Харбин" on DDGDec 25 01:40
XRevan86"Long live the anti-communist agreement between Nippon and Germany, the fight against communism is a commont goal, all to the fight with the world's evil – with communism"Dec 25 01:41
XRevan86if that is from Harbin…Dec 25 01:41
XRevan86also interesting how it write "Nippon", also without any inflectionDec 25 01:42
XRevan86* writesDec 25 01:42
XRevan86> in XinjingDec 25 01:43
XRevan86> Russian advertisements in HarbinDec 25 01:48
XRevan86In the English WikipediaDec 25 01:48
XRevan86I cannot help but notice the 1918+ orthographyDec 25 01:48
XRevan86I guess they've picked it up as wellDec 25 01:48
XRevan86Same in "Russian stores in Harbin"Dec 25 01:49
scientesEnglish would really benifit from a new orthographyDec 25 01:52
scienteswhich this russian-american did https://unspell.blogspot.com/p/home.htmlDec 25 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unspell.blogspot.com | Project Unspell: Getting Started --- KEthN stArteTDec 25 01:52
scientesbut has been previously attempted by the Mormon church, and also Bertrand RusselDec 25 01:52
XRevan86It's a hard feat, because phonetic respelling will fail miserably.Dec 25 01:53
scienteswhy?Dec 25 01:54
scientesits a whole new orthography, so it doesn't require spelling reformDec 25 01:54
XRevan86scientes: English phonology is… diverseDec 25 01:54
MinceRthere were many other attemptsDec 25 01:54
MinceRincluding one by George Bernard ShawDec 25 01:54
scientesoh i got Shaw and Russel confusedDec 25 01:54
XRevan86scientes: Well, I don't quite get what this unspell isDec 25 01:55
scientesits an alternate orthography for EnglishDec 25 01:56
XRevan86scientes: But I suspect that respelling is a component, even if in a different kind of alphabetDec 25 01:56
scientesso that, for example, verbs are *correctly* indicated in the orthographyDec 25 01:56
scientes*vowelsDec 25 01:56
XRevan86"data"Dec 25 01:57
scientesim getting all sorts of stuff switched up todayDec 25 01:57
XRevan86okay, what vowels does this word have?Dec 25 01:57
XRevan86"privacy" – or this oneDec 25 01:57
XRevan86"my" – or this oneDec 25 01:58
MinceRthe pronunciation of "data" variesDec 25 01:59
scientesyes it doesDec 25 01:59
MinceRwhich makes spelling by pronunciation somewhat futileDec 25 02:00
XRevan86scientes: To make a simple orthography, you'd have to create one true way of pronunciation, like Ukrainian did.Dec 25 02:00
scientesyeah, but its still a nominally phonetic languageDec 25 02:00
scientesyeah but I think that would be fineDec 25 02:00
scientesit would mean that you could learn new words from books without sounding wierd the first time you used them, or there even developing divergant differn't ways of pronouncing things (usually around which vowels are used)Dec 25 02:01
scientes*which vowels are spokenDec 25 02:01
XRevan86scientes: I'm pretty sure the only nation that will even consider the new shiny is the one with the closest phonology to the True Way.Dec 25 02:01
scientesyeah but it is an orthographyDec 25 02:01
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568206.jpgDec 25 02:01
scientesso you don't have to do it all rightDec 25 02:02
scientesthere can be differn't True WaysDec 25 02:02
scienteshell he even has a British and American english versionDec 25 02:02
scientesand ran into the issue of THE being pronounced two differn't waysDec 25 02:02
XRevan86scientes: As a Russian I can tell that orthography does influence pronunciation and vice-versaDec 25 02:02
scientesespecially when used at the end of a storyDec 25 02:02
scientesof course, and in chinese the people in shenzhen call electronics components totally differn't (simpler) names than the universities doDec 25 02:03
scientespartially because they don't have a phonetic languageDec 25 02:03
XRevan86In English I instinctively go with the furthest from spelling version.Dec 25 02:04
XRevan86because that one is usually how people actually talkDec 25 02:04
scienteslolDec 25 02:04
XRevan86no wonder pronology of English is so diverse :)Dec 25 02:05
MinceRpr0nologyDec 25 02:06
scientespronouce-ologyDec 25 02:06
scientespronounce-ologyDec 25 02:06
XRevan86MinceR: perfectionDec 25 02:06
MinceR:)Dec 25 02:06
XRevan86Who can explain why "pronounce" but "pronunciation"?Dec 25 02:07
*XRevan86 found outDec 25 02:08
scientesmice, brethrenDec 25 02:09
XRevan86Because these words are… unrelated :)Dec 25 02:09
MinceRi can'tDec 25 02:09
MinceRunrelated?Dec 25 02:09
XRevan86pronunciation: from Latin pronuntiatio, noun of action from perfect passive participle pronuntiatus, from verb pronuntiare (“proclaim”), from pro- (“for”) + nuntiare (“announce”).Dec 25 02:09
XRevan86-nun- from nuntiareDec 25 02:09
scientescacti children confetti (data is plural of datum) dice elves Foci feet-foot geese-gooseDec 25 02:10
scientesman-menDec 25 02:10
MinceRscientes: ghotiDec 25 02:10
scientesoxenDec 25 02:10
XRevan86pronounce: from Latin prōnūntiō, itself from prō- (“forth, out, in public”) + nūntiō (“I announce”) from nūntius (“messenger”).Dec 25 02:10
scientespolyhedraDec 25 02:10
XRevan86ah, no, relatedDec 25 02:10
MinceR(pronounced like "fish")Dec 25 02:11
scienteswoman-women is interestingDec 25 02:11
scientesbecause the pronounciation is funnyDec 25 02:11
scienteshence the internet just says fuck it and writes "wimmenz"Dec 25 02:12
XRevan86I give up, why is pronounce different from pronunciationDec 25 02:13
XRevan86unless…Dec 25 02:14
XRevan86Wiktionary say that "pronounce" comes from Old French, and "pronunciation" from Middle FrenchDec 25 02:14
XRevan86maybe it's the time period that is key, and the *French* pronunciationDec 25 02:14
XRevan86And I know that in French the letter "u" has changed its pronunciation some time ago, so they made up a digraph "ou" to state the older pronunciationDec 25 02:15
scientesXRevan86, and there already is a True Way for phenology of EnglishDec 25 02:15
XRevan86So my guess is that "pronounce" is a later loan than "pronunciation"Dec 25 02:16
scientesused by the mass media (look how Miley Cyrus dropped her southern accent when she got a recording contract)Dec 25 02:17
scientesbut the internet is kinda breaking that effortDec 25 02:17
XRevan86scientes: You're thinking of the US, ladDec 25 02:17
scientesok then there are 3 True ways, US, UK, and IndianDec 25 02:18
XRevan86scientes: The contemporary Doctor Who has taught me that English doesn't have to be intelligible at all.Dec 25 02:18
scientesalthough Indian is rarely offered by speech systhesis programsDec 25 02:18
XRevan86BBC pushes accent diversityDec 25 02:18
XRevan86diversity, yayDec 25 02:18
scientesyeah the stuff in Briton and Ireland can be quite diverseDec 25 02:19
XRevan86Thank Queen for subtitles.Dec 25 02:19
scientesalso Chinese have a specific unusual grammer they tend to useDec 25 02:19
scientesfor EnglishDec 25 02:19
XRevan86scientes: Do you misspell intentionally?Dec 25 02:20
scientesnoDec 25 02:21
scientesi even have spell check in my XChatDec 25 02:21
XRevan86scientes: huhDec 25 02:21
scientesmy irc clientDec 25 02:21
scientesoh its hexChat nowDec 25 02:21
XRevan86* grammar, Britain, synthesis, phonologyDec 25 02:22
scienteshttps://hunspell.github.io/Dec 25 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hunspell.github.io | Hunspell: AboutDec 25 02:22
XRevan86My inner GN breathes outDec 25 02:22
scientesyeah it probably makes me look badDec 25 02:23
scientesuneducatedDec 25 02:23
scientesthey are called the "Britons"Dec 25 02:23
scienteshttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/britonDec 25 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dictionary.cambridge.org | Briton | meaning in the Cambridge English DictionaryDec 25 02:24
XRevan86The island is Britain thoughDec 25 02:24
XRevan86locationDec 25 02:24
scientesyeah but its pronounced the same wayDec 25 02:24
XRevan86* it's :PDec 25 02:25
scientesalso i learned that when they speak of Europe it is France, Germany, et ceteraDec 25 02:25
scientesand et cetera has a differn't ancient pronounciation---et keteraDec 25 02:25
XRevan86"c" is an odd letter for sureDec 25 02:26
scientesbut you have to be careful with the difference between "UK Britian and Ireland"Dec 25 02:26
XRevan86How did it manage to go from "k" to "ts" is a mystery to me.Dec 25 02:26
scientescause people get touchy about the terminologyDec 25 02:26
XRevan86In Russian there are two words for cinematographyDec 25 02:28
XRevan86kinematograf and sinematografDec 25 02:28
scientesbut those are the same word!Dec 25 02:29
XRevan86the former being the more proper and the latter being an influence from EnglishDec 25 02:29
scientesoh i seeDec 25 02:29
scientesmusic is a greek word, which means much more than the English meaningDec 25 02:29
scienteswhich i learned from reading Plato's RepublicDec 25 02:30
XRevan86the Russian muzyka means exactly the same thing as in EnglishDec 25 02:30
scientesit basically means what "liberal arts" means today in EnglishDec 25 02:30
XRevan86Probably from French, both wordsDec 25 02:30
scientesno, its a greek wordDec 25 02:30
XRevan86throughDec 25 02:30
XRevan86FrenchDec 25 02:31
XRevan86This raises another question…Dec 25 02:31
XRevan86What the heck is "liberal arts" (:Dec 25 02:31
scientesmousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially musicDec 25 02:31
scientesyeah any words that gets touched by American formal politics gets corrupted in its meaningDec 25 02:32
XRevan86In contrast with "martial arts" or technical skills?Dec 25 02:33
scientesbasically, aristocratic artsDec 25 02:33
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism#Intellectual_sourcesDec 25 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Classical liberalism - WikipediaDec 25 02:34
XRevan86or stuff unrestricted by practical application like theoretical science?Dec 25 02:34
scientesyeah that is even better: stuff that doesn't have immediate applicability, but rather is for building a "well-rounded" individualDec 25 02:35
scientesand thus "educated"Dec 25 02:35
XRevan86There isn't really an analogue in Russian or I cannot find oneDec 25 02:36
scientesmaybe French hahaDec 25 02:37
XRevan86There's "творчество", which literally means creation of something or a product of suchDec 25 02:37
XRevan86But it mostly means art in a sense like pictures, music, photographyDec 25 02:37
XRevan86When something new is createdDec 25 02:38
MinceR25 031806 <+scientes> ok then there are 3 True ways, US, UK, and IndianDec 25 02:38
MinceRwhat happened to the others?Dec 25 02:38
scientesand UK is English of courseDec 25 02:38
scientesoh, and AustralianDec 25 02:38
XRevan86Science isn't normally included (unless poetically)Dec 25 02:38
MinceRand CanadianDec 25 02:38
MinceRand JamaicanDec 25 02:38
scientesand ebonicsDec 25 02:38
MinceRprobably NZ is different from Australian as wellDec 25 02:38
MinceRthen there's Irish (not Gaelic)Dec 25 02:39
scientesthis is like noting that Spanish has to be called Castillian in Spanish because there are so many mutually-unintelligible dialectsDec 25 02:40
scientesBritian insisted on using Newton's notation for calculus for a very long time, until finially adopting Leibnitz's notationDec 25 02:44
scientesout of national prideDec 25 02:44
XRevan86scientes: What's the difference?Dec 25 02:44
scientesNewton's notation is confusingDec 25 02:44
XRevan86I am completely oblivious of such a standard competitionDec 25 02:44
scientesthey both invented it at the same timeDec 25 02:44
XRevan86Examples?Dec 25 02:44
scientesand Newton was pretty pissed about this for the rest of his lifeDec 25 02:45
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculus_controversyDec 25 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy - WikipediaDec 25 02:45
scientesthat doesn't have the notation....Dec 25 02:45
XRevan86> out of national prideDec 25 02:45
scientesthis is the part of Newton's notation that survived https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notation_for_differentiation#Newton's_notationDec 25 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Notation for differentiation - WikipediaDec 25 02:45
XRevan86Now it's 'Merica %)Dec 25 02:46
scientesyeah, why doesn't everyone speak american?Dec 25 02:46
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0msQb5SiPSIDec 25 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patriotic Teen Fails Spanish - YouTubeDec 25 02:46
XRevan86Thanks, 'Merica, for NN inch screensDec 25 02:47
scientesXRevan86, especially in clinging to the British imperial measurmentsDec 25 02:47
scienteswe don't even use the metric pound, but the 454g imperial pound. and there are TWO imperial milesDec 25 02:47
MinceRwhich american? :>Dec 25 02:48
XRevan86It's cute how in ST:TNG they say "metric tons" and "17 Celsius", as if they'd bother with that redundancy in a metric societyDec 25 02:49
XRevan86There's minus one degree outside.Dec 25 02:51
scienteshttps://i.redd.it/ge11aszq0c311.jpgDec 25 02:52
XRevan86That I'm not talking about Kelvins can be taken by the use of the word "degree", the existence of a minus and the absolute value as wellDec 25 02:53
XRevan86scientes: MoscowDec 25 02:53
scientesthey didn't know what absolute zero was either, so they couldn't use kelvins, not that it would be practical anywaysDec 25 02:54
scientesoh celsius was backwards before 1743Dec 25 02:55
scientesalthough farenheit was also borked, and was only defined by itsself, because the person tested has a feverDec 25 02:55
scientes*hadDec 25 02:56
XRevan86I think I noticed that because it was said "17 Celsius" like 17C, which omits "degree"Dec 25 02:56
scientesbut farenheit gets credit for being the first to really figure out tempratureDec 25 02:56
scienteshe also made 32 the freezing point cause he wanted to avoid negative numbersDec 25 02:57
XRevan86There's also a word "centigrade"Dec 25 02:57
XRevan86scientes: I wonder whyDec 25 02:57
scientesbut yeah americans (me included) have a hard time feeling centigrade tempraturesDec 25 02:58
XRevan86Negative numbers are a good indicator that steam will come out of one's mouthDec 25 02:58
scientesthere is so much humidity around here that my glasses always fog up when i come insideDec 25 02:58
scientesits really annoyingDec 25 02:59
scientesthe triple point of water (exactly 0.01 °C or 32.018 °F)Dec 25 03:00
scientesWUTDec 25 03:00
scientesso the triple point isn't exactly 0C?Dec 25 03:00
XRevan8636.6°C is the normal human armpit temperature, 8°C is the cave temperatureDec 25 03:01
scientesthats a pretty cold cave, but livableDec 25 03:01
scientesI would say more around 12cDec 25 03:02
XRevan86scientes: Metrology is complicatedDec 25 03:04
scientesI studied some of it for aeronauticsDec 25 03:05
scientesyouve got a storm coming in in a few days https://www.accuweather.com/en/ru/national/satelliteDec 25 03:06
XRevan86But Celsius degrees are definitely appealing for the idea simplicityDec 25 03:06
XRevan86It's easy to grokDec 25 03:06
scientesyeah i think they are betterDec 25 03:06
scientesbut they are not AS inferior as the distance system we have, which is insaneDec 25 03:06
scientesthe imperial liquid system is actually quite sane, as it is based on powers of two, which can be done with much more primitive equitment than the metric liquid systemDec 25 03:07
scientesthere are also WAY too many differn't units for pressureDec 25 03:07
XRevan86scientes: The most amusing thing is how the rest of the world settled on a better systemDec 25 03:07
XRevan86It's not like there's an ongoing competitionDec 25 03:08
scientesyeah my friend worked for Boeing, and they used decimal inchesDec 25 03:08
scientesits insaneDec 25 03:08
XRevan86scientes: They used what?Dec 25 03:09
XRevan86micromiles or something?Dec 25 03:09
scientesimperial inches (2.54 cm), but divided using the metric systemDec 25 03:09
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XRevan86centiinches?Dec 25 03:10
scienteswhile in carpentry it is customary to use fractions, like 3/16 inchDec 25 03:10
scientesso when you build a house around here and you get wood from canada (which there is a big tariff on) it is slightly smaller, because they use 2.5 ratio, instead of 2.54Dec 25 03:11
XRevan862.5 millimetre ~ 1 deciinch %)Dec 25 03:11
scientesno sure how the lengths workDec 25 03:11
XRevan86* millimetresDec 25 03:11
scientesand you also have to have two wrench setsDec 25 03:11
scientesits total insanityDec 25 03:11
XRevan86Okay, I cannot do math at all right nowDec 25 03:12
XRevan866amDec 25 03:13
XRevan86Good night %)Dec 25 03:13
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-gauge_railwayDec 25 03:13
scientesha! something imperial that you useDec 25 03:13
scientesgood nightDec 25 03:14
scientes6am geezeDec 25 03:14
XRevan86Amazing how easy it is to observe with math the difference between sleep deprived me and me who have sleptDec 25 03:14
MinceR25 041000 <+XRevan86> centiinches?Dec 25 03:14
MinceRattoparsecsDec 25 03:14
scientesMinceR, nanoacreDec 25 03:15
MinceR:)Dec 25 03:15
scientesMinceR, a joke on how expensive real-estate is, both in silicon valley, and on a silicon dieDec 25 03:16
MinceRwe could measure length in sqrt(acre)Dec 25 03:17
scientesespecially as the rest of the world is settled on hectresDec 25 03:17
MinceRor even sqrt(handegg pitch)Dec 25 03:17
scienteshectaresDec 25 03:17
scientesalso snap, crackle, and popDec 25 03:18
scientesthe 4th, 5th, and 6th derivitives (after jerk)Dec 25 03:19
scientesthe one true way is Little-EndianDec 25 03:21
MinceRthere is no one true wayDec 25 03:21
scientesbut that came from the bookDec 25 03:21
scienteswhich you should readDec 25 03:21
scientes"The books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden."Dec 25 03:22
MinceRwhich book?Dec 25 03:22
scientesalso the origin of the name for yahoo.comDec 25 03:22
MinceR:)Dec 25 03:22
MinceRi didn't know thatDec 25 03:22
scientes(which is a sound a horse makes BTW)Dec 25 03:22
MinceRi never heard a horse say "yahoo!"Dec 25 03:22
scienteshave you ever heard a chicken say "cluck"?Dec 25 03:23
MinceRnot reallyDec 25 03:23
MinceRbut even that's closerDec 25 03:23
MinceRi do like the way the register phrases their headlines involving yahoo!, thoughDec 25 03:23
XRevan86scientes: But the internets are Big-EndianDec 25 03:24
MinceRlittle endian is handier when you need to truncate an integer to a smaller integer of the same value, if possibleDec 25 03:25
MinceRsince they'll have the same addressDec 25 03:25
MinceRbig endian is less confusingDec 25 03:25
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wXbyEQ5TMDec 25 03:26
scientesyou gotta read the book howeverDec 25 03:26
scienteshe describes bureaucracies as a bunch of people on a ladder, each eating the feces of the person above them :)Dec 25 03:26
XRevan86Russian horses say ee-goh-goh, which isn't particularly nailing it, but compared to "yahoo"…Dec 25 03:26
oiaohmscientes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gauge_in_Australia   really the map saying Australia is Standard gauge there is kind of deceptive.Dec 25 03:27
MinceRare russian horses aware of this?Dec 25 03:27
MinceRthen again, maybe it's a soft 'h', which just happens to be written with a 'g'Dec 25 03:28
XRevan86MinceR: They are oblivious on the matterDec 25 03:28
scienteswell there are two sounds in *Gulliver's Travels* for horses, and also "yehaw"Dec 25 03:28
oiaohmscientes: tripple guage areas get mess.Dec 25 03:28
scientesthe other one is closerDec 25 03:28
XRevan86MinceR: The pronunciation depends on the dialect %)Dec 25 03:29
MinceRthe dialect of the horse or the dialect of russian?Dec 25 03:29
scientesHouyhnhnm and YahooDec 25 03:29
XRevan86MinceR: RussianDec 25 03:30
scienteshttp://www.gutenberg.org/files/17157/17157-h/17157-h.htmDec 25 03:30
XRevan86The literature Russian would use the hard "g"Dec 25 03:30
MinceRmaybe they haven't encountered horseDec 25 03:31
MinceRsDec 25 03:31
XRevan86Whether that was the original intent of whoever made ee-goh-goh up is unknown to me (:Dec 25 03:31
scientesthe little-endians are people that eat eggs from the little end firstDec 25 03:31
scientesand big-endians eat them from the big end firstDec 25 03:31
scienteshence: "Many hundred large volumes have been published upon this controversy, but the books of the Big-endians have been long forbidden, and the whole party rendered incapable, by law, of holding employments."Dec 25 03:32
XRevan86And I eat from whatever end happens to be closer my mouthDec 25 03:32
MinceRwell, since the bubble is usually on the big end, i find it easier to crack the shell from thereDec 25 03:32
XRevan86Unaffected by the cracking process, since I peel first, then eatDec 25 03:33
XRevan86Maybe it would've made a difference if I liked liquid eggs…Dec 25 03:33
oiaohmscientes: network traffic address encoding is big-endian.Dec 25 03:34
scientesARMv5 has a mixed-endian floating point formatDec 25 03:34
oiaohmscientes: no big-endian no internet.Dec 25 03:34
XRevan86MinceR: Considering "yahoo", a horse is apparently a mythical creatureDec 25 03:35
scientesoh my badDec 25 03:35
XRevan86And considering "oink-oink" so are swinesDec 25 03:35
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo_(Gulliver%27s_Travels)Dec 25 03:35
scientesHouyhnhnm is the sound of the horseDec 25 03:36
scientesits part of the same section of the book so i got it confusedDec 25 03:36
XRevan86That's less excitingDec 25 03:37
scientesoh its a mythical type of horsesDec 25 03:37
scientesas are the HouyhnhnmDec 25 03:37
scientesthis horse has a differn't number of chromosomes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przewalski%27s_horseDec 25 03:38
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/rheutz.mp4Dec 25 03:38
MinceRi thought you could tell ARM cores which endianness you wantedDec 25 03:38
scientesyeah but floating point is differn'tDec 25 03:39
scientesand this format is NOT IEEE 754Dec 25 03:39
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/RaEW9df.pngDec 25 03:40
scienteswhich everybody should be using, but intel had to keep its old 80-bit format, so its not universalDec 25 03:40
oiaohmMinceR: Arm cores can be confusing   endianness can be hard set or software set.   This is a silicon production choice.Dec 25 03:40
MinceR:)Dec 25 03:41
scientesyeah but little-endian kind of wonDec 25 03:41
scientes(except on the internet)Dec 25 03:41
oiaohmMinceR: basically the arm controller register can be fuseable links or ram set.Dec 25 03:42
scienteslike even powerpc is little-endian these daysDec 25 03:42
MinceRoh, i thought one could save some silicon by fixing itDec 25 03:42
oiaohmSo you can have a arm process in a embedded device that is pure big endian.Dec 25 03:42
oiaohmMinceR: same silicon size with arm locked or unlocked.Dec 25 03:42
MinceRno surprise, given that it's done by fusing the controller registerDec 25 03:43
scientesoh, soviet gague is actually wideDec 25 03:43
scientesbut still imperial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-gauge_railwayDec 25 03:43
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-gauge_railway#5_ft_and_1520_mm_gaugeDec 25 03:43
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC#Endian_modes PowerPC endian stuff gets horriblely nasty.Dec 25 03:44
oiaohmYou can have per memory page endian state with PowerPC.Dec 25 03:44
scientesahh, so there is a clear way to tell is a country is in "eastern" europe: it uses russian gauge railroads :)Dec 25 03:51
scienteswhich makes poland not in eastern europeDec 25 03:51
scientesoh woah, US south was converted from russian gauge to standard gauge after civil warDec 25 03:54
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scientesi like old roman roads and cobble stoneDec 25 04:21
scientespeople just have to drive slowerDec 25 04:21
scientesi mean if you take into acount the time to make the money to support the car, it is actually slower than walkingDec 25 04:21
oiaohmscientes: there is some russian gauge rail in some mines in Australia.Dec 25 04:26
oiaohmscientes: rail is kind of a mess around the world with many places with basically every single gauge if you know where to look.Dec 25 04:27
scientesus standardized quite a bit on standard guageDec 25 04:27
scientesby adjusting many railsDec 25 04:28
oiaohmscientes: there are load factors that cause usage of wider rails and there are mining areas causing need for smaller rails.Dec 25 04:55
scientesshort wave might be shut down https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millions-of-clocks/4554376.htmlDec 25 04:56
scientesneed more money for military glutDec 25 04:58
oiaohmscientes: some of those have the 32 bit problem.Dec 25 05:09
oiaohmscientes: time is running out on those clocks in more than 1 way.Dec 25 05:10
scientesshould i get a shortwave radio and an amateur radio?Dec 25 05:12
scientesare two-way amateur radios expensive?Dec 25 05:12
scientesI guess you would need an antenna to go any reasonable distanceDec 25 05:13
scientesi think i am going to get this it is cheap https://www.ebay.com/itm/TIVDIO-VT-111-Portable-AM-FM-SW-FM-Shortwave-Radio-with-Clock-and-Alarm-Black-US/361522576604?hash=item542c6cbcdc:g:yOsAAOSwSlBY3cJe:rk:22:pf:0Dec 25 05:13
scientesshortwave shouldn't be abandonedDec 25 05:14
scientesrussia already abandoned shortwaveDec 25 05:15
scienteshttp://shortwavetimes.com/Dec 25 05:16
scientesAnd China Radio International gives you a powerful signal, proudly telling listeners "we will never give up on Short Wave."Dec 25 05:16
scientesI once listened to bbc short wave it was coolDec 25 05:17
scientesahh i need one that supports digital short waveDec 25 05:18
scienteshmm looks like the digital format doesn't have any uptakeDec 25 05:22
scientesahhh the digital format is patent-encumbered....Dec 25 05:24
scientesradio australia also closed downDec 25 05:25
scientesbut not new zealandDec 25 05:25
scientesits really sad that shortwave has been shut-down---it is one of those things you feel will last foreverDec 25 05:28
oiaohmscientes: https://freedv.org/ there is a open source digitial codec in usage in some parts of shortwave.Dec 25 05:42
oiaohmscientes: insane part is that the codec2 codec to have legal export from Australia had to have the document for the legal allowance of export of weapon of mass destruction.Dec 25 05:43
scienteslawlsDec 25 05:44
scientesi think i'll get that $13 radioDec 25 05:44
oiaohmscientes: Linux Conference Australia  had that document up on screen with the talk about codec2.Dec 25 05:45
scientesshortwave is coolDec 25 05:45
oiaohmLot people think that the digital formats are patent-encumbered for radio that why they are not closed soruce but they is only half the problem.  USA/UK and Australian export laws are asses.Dec 25 05:45
scientesnot anymore in usDec 25 05:46
scienteswell, the huawei thing...Dec 25 05:46
scientesi am actually a plan of one belt one roadDec 25 05:46
scientes*fanDec 25 05:46
scientesat least some of itDec 25 05:46
oiaohmCodec2 if it was closed source would not have need the weapon of mass destruction export thing.Dec 25 05:46
scientesit is a more honest fizzle outDec 25 05:47
scientesi need to figure out where to homesteadDec 25 05:47
oiaohmIt on the theory that a enemy can modify the open source codec so hide what they are up to.  So there is some insane restrictions.Dec 25 05:47
scientesi was thinking about panamaDec 25 05:47
scientesi can't afford land around hereDec 25 05:48
scientesland is much cheaper in panamaDec 25 05:48
scientesi still would have to work for a yearDec 25 05:48
scientesand i would get a great plot with a riverDec 25 05:49
scientesalso us culture is really sickDec 25 05:54
scientesMinceR, what do you think of China's hand in Australian natural resources?Dec 25 06:29
scienteshttps://external-preview.redd.it/mp4/Hb_fnEE_W_L6N4aWSW6Gj2cR5JtSjkp_CA2dnvFLWjA-source.mp4?s=d04c5ef8456995d4d5513f5b3bb8f22328b96478Dec 25 06:45
scienteswhat a bullshit url is that?Dec 25 06:45
scientesimpressive: https://i.imgur.com/NOhkLcl.gifvDec 25 06:50
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trnHo ho ho!!Dec 25 12:38
schestowitzoh oh ohDec 25 12:50
scientesso the real unemployeement rate in the US is 49%Dec 25 15:47
scientesthat sounds more like itDec 25 15:47
scientesthe percentage of working-age adults without jobsDec 25 15:47
MinceRhttps://media.giphy.com/media/oMK5z1GT0B87S/giphy.gifDec 25 16:16
MinceR25 072955 <+scientes> MinceR, what do you think of China's hand in Australian natural resources?Dec 25 16:17
MinceRi'm not aware of itDec 25 16:17
MinceR25 074540 <+scientes> what a bullshit url is that?Dec 25 16:17
MinceRdownscaled, re-encoded? :>Dec 25 16:17
scienteshttps://theconversation.com/book-review-clive-hamiltons-silent-invasion-chinas-influence-in-australia-93650Dec 25 16:28
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568201.jpgDec 25 17:02
DaemonFC[m]the percentage of working-age adults without jobsDec 25 17:04
DaemonFC[m]49% seems highDec 25 17:04
DaemonFC[m]USA Today said that Trump's new regulation taking away food stamps from able bodied adults without children who don't have a job would affect 750,000 people. That doees seem like a lot.Dec 25 17:04
DaemonFC[m]It's designed to make the regulation seem less cruel than it really is.Dec 25 17:05
scientesDaemonFC[m], http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/there-are-100-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobsDec 25 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theeconomiccollapseblog.com | There Are 100 Million Working Age Americans That Do Not Have Jobs ***UPDATED***Dec 25 17:05
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't affect children (yet) and "Those lazy bums don't wan a job.".Dec 25 17:05
DaemonFC[m]Nobody asks if there actually is a job for them.Dec 25 17:06
DaemonFC[m]The Economic Collapse Blog?Dec 25 17:06
scienteshttp://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Not-In-Labor-Force-April-2012.pngDec 25 17:06
scienteslol good meme http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chimps-Throwing-Poop-And-29-Other-Mind-Blowing-Ways-That-The-Government-Is-Wasting-Your-Money.jpgDec 25 17:07
DaemonFC[m]https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/people-who-are-not-in-the-labor-force-why-arent-they-working.htmDec 25 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bls.gov | People who are not in the labor force&#58 why aren't they working? : Beyond the Numbers: U.S. Bureau of Labor StatisticsDec 25 17:08
DaemonFC[m]Retirement and "in school" are two major reasons.Dec 25 17:08
DaemonFC[m]LOL "In school." Education Bubble".Dec 25 17:09
scientesyep http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/10/07/the-growth-in-student-debt/Dec 25 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pewsocialtrends.org | The Growth in Student Debt | Pew Research CenterDec 25 17:09
DaemonFC[m]The Conners made fun of this. That dorky loser guy who lives off his girlfrield.Dec 25 17:09
scientesits just a way to kick the can down the roadDec 25 17:09
DaemonFC[m]Come on. We all know (at least) one.Dec 25 17:09
scientesgetting literature degreesDec 25 17:09
scientesand art historyDec 25 17:10
scientesand gender studiesDec 25 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Dec 25 17:10
scientesat the cost of $20000 a yearDec 25 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Walmart's full up on those right now.Dec 25 17:10
scientesnot that those studies are not worthyDec 25 17:10
scientesit just doesn't cost that much to study themDec 25 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Wait for the next hiring fair! Dec 25 17:10
scienteswell, except gender studiesDec 25 17:10
scientesthat is uselessDec 25 17:10
DaemonFC[m]Borrowing money at 6% interest that you can't default on to get a worthless degree.Dec 25 17:11
XRevan86What is gender studies anyway?Dec 25 17:11
DaemonFC[m]What's worse, now that all those people have one, employers are requiring it for entry level jobs, because they can, and fuck you.Dec 25 17:11
DaemonFC[m]I saw an opening for hotel front desk clerk that required "two years of college" the other day.Dec 25 17:11
scientesthe amount of student debt is just a straight line upwardsDec 25 17:12
scientesexponential debtDec 25 17:12
scientesXRevan86, mainly professional men-bashingDec 25 17:13
DaemonFC[m]There should be a new law.Dec 25 17:13
DaemonFC[m]Forget minimum wage for a moment, but the law should say that if a job pays less than $28,000 a year (indexed to inflation), it cannot require a college degree.Dec 25 17:13
XRevan86scientes: All men are goats, yesDec 25 17:14
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkDLy2TYxQDec 25 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOAT K-POP - YouTubeDec 25 17:14
XRevan86Did I just complete the course?Dec 25 17:14
XRevan86okay, goats are awesomeDec 25 17:15
scientesthere is a sheep in that video....Dec 25 17:18
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121717Dec 25 17:21
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbBKPqOh6DUDec 25 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China’s Internet Censorship Agency Has Its Own Anthem And We Translated It - YouTubeDec 25 17:23
scienteshaha the end of this video deliberately has the russian accented English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNibqsp9NAMDec 25 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Last Christmas' cover by Russia’s National Guard - YouTubeDec 25 17:31
XRevan86Not a bad coverDec 25 17:34
XRevan86weird %)Dec 25 17:35
scientesso today is just a normal day in Russia?Dec 25 17:35
XRevan86scientes: Apart from some Rosguard signers, nothing specialDec 25 17:35
XRevan86* singersDec 25 17:36
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAusMNTNnkDec 25 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bride Kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan - YouTubeDec 25 17:36
scientesI gotta ask my Tajikistan woman friend about thatDec 25 17:37
scienteshaha "the west condems bridge kidnapping but they provide us with nothing we can fallow, only gay and lesbian marriages, hiv, divorce, orphans, brutality, violence and drugsDec 25 17:39
scienteslolDec 25 17:40
scientesso trueDec 25 17:40
XRevan86scientes: Not going to watch that -_-Dec 25 17:40
scientesits a western documentaryDec 25 17:40
XRevan86scientes: Russians don't approve of kidnapping brides eitherDec 25 17:40
scientesof courseDec 25 17:40
XRevan86even though Russia has "spiritual bonds" and all that potato saladDec 25 17:41
XRevan86So that excuse is pretty darn weak even by these standardsDec 25 17:42
scientesits better than murdering the men boys and crones, "The Greatest Happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you. To see his cities reduced to ashes. To see those who love him shrouded and in tears. And to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters."-Genghis KhanDec 25 17:43
XRevan86https://youtu.be/pzmI3vAIhbE (no reason)Dec 25 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dschinghis Khan - Dschinghis Khan (1979) - YouTubeDec 25 17:44
scienteswhy else are boy-bands a thing?Dec 25 17:47
XRevan86scientes: The Greatest Happiness is crime of war, and bride kidnapping is mandane little injustices that apparently happen every day.Dec 25 17:47
scientesits certainly not woorse then the way chinese sell north korean bridgesDec 25 17:50
scientes*bridesDec 25 17:50
scientesi would say it is less offensive than selling womenDec 25 17:50
scientesespecially when they already know each otherDec 25 17:50
XRevan86scientes: It is less offensive than literal slavery, yes.Dec 25 17:51
XRevan86And it falls down nicely to the Muslim way of treating women (I noticed how they said that after the collapse of USSR Kyrgistan adopted Islam as the state religion)Dec 25 17:51
scientesthe other people present in the documentary when the bridge gets kidnapped, they are laughing when they see itDec 25 17:52
XRevan86at least they don't pack them in bags?Dec 25 17:52
scientesnot even a blanketDec 25 17:52
scientesthey just shove her in the carDec 25 17:52
XRevan86scientes: It's not like an actual person got hurt, amirite?Dec 25 17:53
scientesno, she is certainly a personDec 25 17:53
XRevan86</dark_sarcasm>Dec 25 17:53
scientesshe cries for her momDec 25 17:54
XRevan86It's amazing how little traditionalists ever think of actual people and their dignity.Dec 25 17:54
XRevan86Abstract Traditional Ways are most important than people.Dec 25 17:55
scientesi don't see thatDec 25 17:55
scientesthey arn't going to rape her, they wait for her to consentDec 25 17:56
scientesnot that it isn't pressured of courseDec 25 17:56
scientesthe whole family is persuadingDec 25 17:56
XRevan86scientes: I'd like to see what happens when the bride says her final "no" and goes.Dec 25 17:57
scientesshowering with candy and getting her to eat---its kinda like that scene in Spirited Away (Ghibli studios)Dec 25 17:57
scientesXRevan86, agreedDec 25 17:57
XRevan86and then someone kidnaps her again, goto 1Dec 25 17:57
scientesif she just leavesDec 25 17:57
XRevan86"you have missed work two times, what is your excuse, lady?"Dec 25 17:58
XRevan86"participating in traditions"Dec 25 17:58
XRevan86honourableDec 25 17:58
scientesit only took a little time after the kidnapping for her to accept hospitality and smile upDec 25 17:59
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scientesand in that way she has saved face---it wasn't her choiceDec 25 17:59
scientesold man: "in our tradition if she spends one night, she will stay forever"Dec 25 18:00
XRevan86Gives a new connotation to sleepoversDec 25 18:01
scienteslike the film-maker finds them slaughtering a sheep for the wedding gross....Dec 25 18:02
scientesfucking western pussiesDec 25 18:02
XRevan86the most innocent thing in this whole traditionDec 25 18:03
scientesso the tradition is after the wedding all the men go to the brides family and apologizeDec 25 18:04
scientesand bridge a dowryDec 25 18:05
scientes*bringDec 25 18:05
scientes(which is a second sheep and other gifts)Dec 25 18:05
XRevan86"well, too late to do anything now, to be able to continue seeing about family member we will have to forgive you: forgiveness granted"Dec 25 18:06
XRevan86* our family memberDec 25 18:06
scientesno they put on their best clothes and have a huge feastDec 25 18:06
XRevan86scientes: Notice that *after* the weddingDec 25 18:06
scientesyeah but i don't see it in such a negative life---she could leaveDec 25 18:07
scientes*lightDec 25 18:07
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scientesthe difference is if the bureaucracy---the all-powerful church, does a binding wedding (and traditionally there was no divorce)---or if it is an informal wedding with this dirty kidnapping part so both sides can save faceDec 25 18:07
scientesand the poor of course were never bound to that bureaucracy---so it was more of a show, something you see in Jane Eyre---where the women in order to feel strong has to stand up to the victorian social obligations of no divorce, even though the other woman is.....well read the book/watch the movieDec 25 18:09
scientesand if it is an alternate to childhood marriagesDec 25 18:11
scientesit means the women get to get an educationDec 25 18:11
XRevan86scientes: I guess you're message is that I'm closed minded and push them too hard to accept my morality instead of allowing them to find their own way or something.Dec 25 18:12
XRevan86* your messageDec 25 18:12
scientesNeitzche said "morality is the heard instinct of the individual"Dec 25 18:15
scientesand i think the socially imposed morality of the church on marriage is of *pretending( to be pureDec 25 18:16
scientesand this kidnapping provides a way of saving face for two families, and bridge and groom, without having to make it about moneyDec 25 18:16
XRevan86I really don't care about thisDec 25 18:16
scientesor having nuclear familiesDec 25 18:17
XRevan86Everyone can announce their intentions of living together how they wishDec 25 18:17
scientesthe iman only came after this was all overDec 25 18:18
scienteseven though they already had the weddingDec 25 18:18
XRevan86One mustn't just kidnap people off the streetsDec 25 18:18
scientesyes agreedDec 25 18:19
XRevan86this has to stay only in moviesDec 25 18:19
DaemonFC[m]https://hackaday.com/2018/12/25/automatic-soap-dispenser-hides-arduino-board/Dec 25 18:20
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XRevan86scientes: So, basically, there has to be consent *all the way*Dec 25 18:21
XRevan86And not just post-factumDec 25 18:22
scientesthere was in this caseDec 25 18:22
scientesbut it isn't so simpleDec 25 18:22
XRevan86In fact, how can you tell a woman that is being abducted from the streets is a potential bride or a kidney donor?Dec 25 18:22
scientesyou can't---the abductors knew the local cops thoughDec 25 18:23
XRevan86It works both waysDec 25 18:23
XRevan86people can see a woman being abducted and not even blinkDec 25 18:24
XRevan86nothing bad happening thereDec 25 18:24
scientesthere are lots of problems like thisDec 25 18:24
scientesbut there is no history of abuse that you are speaking ofDec 25 18:24
scienteskidney transplants require clean facilities and good transportationDec 25 18:25
scientesit is hard to do organ transplant without government helpDec 25 18:25
XRevan86I didn't literally mean a kidney donorDec 25 18:25
XRevan86a slave in the mountains or somethingDec 25 18:25
scientesthere is no way to prevent such things except human goodnessDec 25 18:26
scientesso stop worrying about themDec 25 18:26
scientesand how could you have a slave in the mountainsDec 25 18:26
scientesslavery is a very difficult instition to enforce and maintainDec 25 18:26
scientesagain, it requires governmentDec 25 18:26
XRevan86scientes: I remembered a news article like thatDec 25 18:27
XRevan86exactly about that, slaves in the mountainsDec 25 18:27
scienteswell, if you are talking about concentration camps, like they have in North Korea.....Dec 25 18:27
XRevan86scientes: RussiaDec 25 18:27
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms4NIB6xrocDec 25 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BORN AND RAISED IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP - YouTubeDec 25 18:27
XRevan86contemporaruDec 25 18:27
scientesthere are north korean work camps in russiaDec 25 18:27
XRevan86RussianDec 25 18:27
scientesthese are slave camps in russiaDec 25 18:27
XRevan86and IIRC it was a horse ranch or something like thatDec 25 18:28
DaemonFC[m]So, I read that Kevin Spacey has been charged wih a felony sexual assault on a minor, but when I scrolled the article, it said that he sexually assaulted an 18 year old. Dec 25 18:28
DaemonFC[m]Could very well still be sexual assault, but how is 18 a minor?Dec 25 18:28
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awQDLoOnkdIDec 25 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-North Korean Labor Camps - VICE NEWS - Part 1 of 7 - YouTubeDec 25 18:29
DaemonFC[m]When I was 18, my parents said "We don't want you here. Get out." and that was the end of that.Dec 25 18:29
scientesXRevan86, men often propose when they arn't really ready to propose and dont mean itDec 25 18:30
DaemonFC[m]https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48427561_339025113595644_9029301607417774080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=71b622bed7a0586ab90f95ac38170125&oe=5C9DBA7ADec 25 19:00
scientesDaemonFC[m], merry christmasDec 25 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Back atchaDec 25 19:02
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121715Dec 25 19:02
DaemonFC[m]The fine tradition of trying to figure out if there's a Chinese restaurant that's open somewhere.Dec 25 19:02
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scienteswe are behind the timesDec 25 19:02
scientesliterallyDec 25 19:02
scientesthe rest of the world already had christmasDec 25 19:02
scienteswe should move the international date line to the atlantic ocean, so we can get ahead of everyone :)Dec 25 19:03
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1812158Dec 25 19:14
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scienteshttps://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/nov/19/pressandpublishing.chinaDec 25 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Charles sues Mail for printing his 'waxworks' jibe at Chinese leaders | Media | The GuardianDec 25 19:19
scientesIf a prince marries a commoner that commoner becomes a princess, but if a princess marries a commoner she looser her titleDec 25 19:44
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121441Dec 25 21:20
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scienteslike there are some crazy anthropologists that defend female genital mutilationDec 25 21:40
scientesi'm not willing to do thatDec 25 21:40
XRevan86What is the argument?Dec 25 21:40
scientesthat "its their culture"Dec 25 21:41
XRevan86ahDec 25 21:41
XRevan86So it's like watching Animal Planet, I guess.Dec 25 21:41
scientesyeah anthropologists are generally quite crazyDec 25 21:42
scientesand yes, animal planetDec 25 21:42
scientesthis is very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aV_850nzv4Dec 25 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tribe meets white man for the first time 1/3 (with narration) - YouTubeDec 25 21:42
XRevan86Maybe they're thinking "a dark-haired albino? unprecedented!" :)Dec 25 21:44
scientesthey also think that that this stuff could have been build with stone tools https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC9JHVPm-4P5QDp9vk8EH-A/videosDec 25 21:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mystery History - YouTubeDec 25 21:44
scienteswhen it clearly requires a diamond sawDec 25 21:44
scientesthere is so much pseudoscience in academics these daysDec 25 21:45
scienteswhere you are not allowed to have new ideasDec 25 21:45
scientesbut it has probably always been like thatDec 25 21:45
XRevan86scientes: You mean, like this: https://youtu.be/WbhvFJjAjag?t=104 ?Dec 25 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Как древние египтяне пилили гранит: опыт Николая Васютина - YouTubeDec 25 21:47
scienteswhy is only the title russian?Dec 25 21:49
scientesand all the comments?Dec 25 21:49
scientesdo they allow translated titles and such?Dec 25 21:49
scientesanyways, that is really colDec 25 21:49
XRevan86scientes: The video is in RussianDec 25 21:49
XRevan86they just don't talk all that muchDec 25 21:49
scientesbut the description is in english for meDec 25 21:50
XRevan86well, they talk at the beginning, but that's why I added a timestampDec 25 21:50
XRevan86scientes: They do allow translations, yesDec 25 21:50
scientesahhh okDec 25 21:50
XRevan86I guess that video was noticed by English speakers :)Dec 25 21:50
XRevan86I see there are subs as well (also in French)Dec 25 21:51
scientesyeah ill send this to my friend that cares alot about thisDec 25 21:51
scienteshe cut the stones tfrom his property to build a russian fireplaceDec 25 21:51
XRevan86scientes: The project antropogenez.ru has quite a few demos like this oneDec 25 21:51
XRevan86and that's not the only YouTube channel of theirsDec 25 21:52
XRevan86I just picked a random video on the topicDec 25 21:52
*scientes just learned rubys are aluminumDec 25 21:54
XRevan86Thanks to the people like Alexander Sokolov, Alexander Panchin, Valentin Conon and others Russian popular science is on the riseDec 25 21:54
scientesit was huge in 18th century englandDec 25 21:55
XRevan86Rubys are crystallsDec 25 21:55
scientesalso, Shenzhen China has a culture of open-source hardware that is very effectiveDec 25 21:55
XRevan86crystalsDec 25 21:55
scientesaluminum oxideDec 25 21:55
scientesAlDec 25 21:56
scientes2ODec 25 21:56
scientes3Dec 25 21:56
XRevan86Ah, yesDec 25 21:56
scientesahh Al2O3Dec 25 21:56
scientesdiffern't from boxite which has hydrogen in itDec 25 21:56
XRevan86Al_2O_3 + CrDec 25 21:56
scienteshydroxidesDec 25 21:56
XRevan86And the formula for diamonds is: CDec 25 21:57
scientesso why isn't that demonstration using diamond powder?Dec 25 21:57
XRevan86scientes: Why should it be involved?Dec 25 21:58
scientesdiamond is even harderDec 25 21:58
scientesbut i guess corundum is good enoughDec 25 21:58
scientesfloating up granite blocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGH93mt81BADec 25 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the Pyramids of Egypt were really built Addendum - Shaping the blocks - YouTubeDec 25 21:59
scientesmeh, that video doesn't point out the lift in tubesDec 25 22:00
scienteshere it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dup19cX6yXoDec 25 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the Pyramids of Egypt were really built Addendum - Multiple Locks - YouTubeDec 25 22:00
scientesyou still have to get slaves to carry up buckets of water to the topDec 25 22:01
XRevan86Wasn't it established they weren't slaves?Dec 25 22:02
scienteswell whatever, that isn't importantDec 25 22:02
scientesplebsDec 25 22:02
oiaohmscientes: lot of the Egypt records say prisoners and paid workers.Dec 25 22:03
XRevan86https://youtu.be/jTkVA2EcmY4 the place where the blocks were carved outDec 25 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Из чего построены пирамиды? - YouTubeDec 25 22:03
XRevan86same channelDec 25 22:03
scientesthe pharoahs would probably be turning over in their tombs if they knew egyptians pray to mecca nowDec 25 22:04
XRevan86scientes: But they give tourism income to the country :)Dec 25 22:07
XRevan86a long-term investmentDec 25 22:07
MinceRhttp://hugewoah.com/post/8160Dec 25 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugewoah.com | Closing a box made of perfect mirrors with a light bulb insideDec 25 22:08
scienteschinese grafitti https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/27/article-2331613-1A061BB8000005DC-790_634x422.jpgDec 25 22:09
XRevan86MinceR: Meh, perfect mirrorsDec 25 22:09
MinceR:)Dec 25 22:09
scientesthats coolDec 25 22:10
XRevan86The photons just bounce off and never go away, so of course everything went whiteDec 25 22:10
scientesbut what about the cameraDec 25 22:11
scientesdoes it have a one-way mirror over it?Dec 25 22:11
XRevan86In the simulation the observer is an invisible pink unicornDec 25 22:11
oiaohmscientes: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/pyramids-new-void-chamber-egypt  that water to move the blocks If that is true I would suspect its not on the outside of the pyramid.Dec 25 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.co.uk | A hidden void has been found inside Egypt's Great Pyramid | WIRED UKDec 25 22:13
oiaohmscientes: there is like a stair case of voids in the great primidia.Dec 25 22:13
scientesits cool that they are only now discovering itDec 25 22:13
oiaohmWith pyramids shape it seams stupid to build extra structures out side the size of the pyramid.Dec 25 22:14
oiaohmscientes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/02/the-surprisingly-simple-way-egyptians-moved-massive-pyramid-stones-without-modern-technology/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.67e9c4300549  there is a problem with the idea you suggested.Dec 25 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The surprisingly simple way Egyptians moved massive pyramid stones without modern technology - The Washington PostDec 25 22:17
oiaohmYes there is a record of method on walls of different parts of Egyptian structures.Dec 25 22:17
oiaohmSo we are looking at sledge took a while to work out how to lubricate them.Dec 25 22:18
oiaohmPlease note the picture there is one of the status us modern people had to cut into pieces to move.Dec 25 22:19
oiaohmIn weight it larger than the largest block in the great pyramid when that statue was whole.Dec 25 22:20
oiaohmscientes: so we really don't need a theory the historic Egypts left behind pictures of how.    Of course I am not going to say they did not use locks and the like to allow boats to move blocks closer.Dec 25 22:21
oiaohmThe one thing that is not recorded is how in heck do you lift such huge blocks effectively on and off if slegge.Dec 25 22:23
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHkqamFRTKIDec 25 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 5 Goat Songs (2013 - GOAT REMIXES) - YouTubeDec 25 22:23
MinceRha'taks and tractor beamsDec 25 22:24
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/n7NFVDec 25 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How's it - Album on ImgurDec 25 22:31
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568514.jpgDec 25 22:55
XRevan86"ambitious" is the Corporate for "idiotic"Dec 25 22:58
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566944.jpgDec 25 23:18
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scientesHAHAHAHADec 26 01:38
scientes"remove this niggas ports"Dec 26 01:38
scientesbut this isn't newDec 26 01:38
scienteswith the internal batteriesDec 26 01:38
scientesI avoided the nexus 6 because the internal batter is very difficult to replaceDec 26 01:38
scientesi have the 5x, still an internal battery, but one that can be replaced if you take the time to do itDec 26 01:39
scientesstill should be simple external batteryDec 26 01:39
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cubexyzin the UK they would make "egg in a cup" sometimes :)Dec 26 02:00
cubexyzso non-endian Dec 26 02:00
cubexyzthe pot of gold chocolates keep shrinking :-/Dec 26 02:02
cubexyz247 grams this yearDec 26 02:02
cubexyzshrinkflationDec 26 02:03
scientesnot even 1/4 metric pountDec 26 02:16
scientespoundDec 26 02:16
scientesred hair is a recessive allele so if two red heads mate all their kids will have red hairDec 26 02:16
scientesXRevan86, the journals shut down alot of research by trying to charge for papersDec 26 02:35
scientesbut some of it might be here https://arxiv.org/Dec 26 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arXiv.org e-Print archiveDec 26 02:37
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568285.pngDec 26 02:56
scienteshttps://youtu.be/W4rtGPCsoXADec 26 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Rowan Atkinson the REAL Mr Bean?! | The Graham Norton Show | BBC America - YouTubeDec 26 03:07
schestowitzMinceR: 4chan?Dec 26 03:12
schestowitzalso very longDec 26 03:12
scientesyeah when i saw how long it was i just skipped itDec 26 03:13
scientesalso when i saw it was from 4chanDec 26 03:13
scienteswhich is kinda the butt-hole of the internetDec 26 03:13
MinceRprobablyDec 26 03:13
MinceRand it's not high brow humorDec 26 03:14
MinceRbut i found it funnyDec 26 03:14
scienteshttps://vgy.me/CN2K7A.pngDec 26 03:19
scientesbut (formal) politics IS the same as fantasy footballDec 26 03:19
scienteswhy do the people trying to get us to vote sound so much like sports announcers?Dec 26 03:20
MinceRif only politics had only as much impact on my life as fantasy footballDec 26 03:26
scientesagreedDec 26 03:26
scientesbut in France they protest over these thingsDec 26 03:26
scientesMinceR, I just read this book it was great https://www.newsociety.com/Books/S/Shrinking-the-TechnosphereDec 26 03:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsociety.com | Shrinking the Technosphere | New Society PublishersDec 26 03:27
scientesand shrinking the effect of that pesky technosphereDec 26 03:28
scientesthats runs formal politicsDec 26 03:29
scienteshttps://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aD11YR7_700bwp.webpDec 26 03:29
MinceR:)Dec 26 03:29
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568370.jpgDec 26 03:30
scientesits also cause pigs spread wormsDec 26 03:32
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566876.jpgDec 26 03:58
scientesMinceR, what about itDec 26 04:44
scientesthat is just a regular christmas treeDec 26 04:44
MinceRno, it has a cat in it :>Dec 26 04:45
scienteso now i see itDec 26 04:46
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121413Dec 26 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 26 04:48
scientesuggghhhh i hate how you have to get technical theseDec 26 04:49
scientesthese daysDec 26 04:49
scientesyou know society is being run by the computers (the technosphere) when it just redefines everybody to human and non-humanDec 26 04:50
scientesand the other differentials becomes irreleventDec 26 04:50
scientesand un-trustableDec 26 04:50
MinceRhttps://betanews.com/2018/12/24/internet-explorer-patch-lenovo-laptops/Dec 26 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft's emergency Internet Explorer patch renders some Lenovo laptops unbootableDec 26 04:51
scienteslawlDec 26 04:52
scientesgreat osDec 26 04:52
schestowitzMalware with a kernel of its ownDec 26 04:52
scienteshttp://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chimps-Throwing-Poop-And-29-Other-Mind-Blowing-Ways-That-The-Government-Is-Wasting-Your-Money.jpgDec 26 04:53
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scientesoh, the orthodox church is still official centered in constantinople! (istambul)Dec 26 05:25
scienteswhen i was reading it before i just assumed greeceDec 26 05:26
scientesyeah that is useless historyDec 26 05:26
scientescause islam is basically the state religion of turkeyDec 26 05:26
scienteswith politicians constantly threatening to turn the Hagia Sophia into a mosque againDec 26 05:28
oiaohmMinceR: question to be asked with those lenovo is that firmware malware again.   https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nasty/Dec 26 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | CAUGHT: Lenovo crams unremovable crapware into Windows laptops – by hiding it in the BIOS • The RegisterDec 26 05:36
scientesyet another reason to use LinuxDec 26 05:44
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scientesTroglodyteDec 26 05:54
scientescool wordDec 26 05:54
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scientesahh why is whatsapp so brokenDec 26 06:47
scientesi guess it is for spy purposesDec 26 06:47
scientesit is impossible to contact someone that isn't on your contact listDec 26 06:47
scientessoooo stupidDec 26 06:47
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scienteshttps://www.translatemedia.com/translation-blog/how-the-internet-is-changing-language/Dec 26 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.translatemedia.com | How the Internet is Changing LanguageDec 26 08:52
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scienteshmmm https://www.pimsleur.com/list-of-languages#esl-paneDec 26 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Online Language Courses & Programs to Learn Languages | Pimsleur ®Dec 26 09:09
scientesthis is my favorite langauge learning system (for the basic grammar)Dec 26 09:09
scientesbut the only have english->40 languages, and languages->englishDec 26 09:09
scientesi guess everybody that learns other language is expected to also learn english, because it is the lingua franca?Dec 26 09:10
scientesinstead of offering cross-languagesDec 26 09:10
scienteslike russia-mandarin, or arabic-spanishDec 26 09:10
scienteswhile german was standardized in germany, all the colonies kept using their bastardized versions of german---afrikans, pensyllvania dutch, et ceteraDec 26 09:21
scientesi guess largely because those places were already learning english for larger communiicationDec 26 09:21
scientesbut it seems kinda stupid to not give their kids access to the great literature written in high-germanDec 26 09:24
scientes  FAUST:Dec 26 09:24
scientes  Habe nun, ach! Philosophie,Dec 26 09:24
scientes  Juristerei und Medizin,Dec 26 09:24
scientes  Und leider auch TheologieDec 26 09:24
scientes  Durchaus studiert, mit heißem Bemühn.Dec 26 09:24
scientes  Da steh ich nun, ich armer Tor!Dec 26 09:24
scientesThis book should be taught more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)Dec 26 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Player Piano (novel) - WikipediaDec 26 09:32
scientesit is the origin of the English words "thingamajig" and "whatjamacallit"Dec 26 09:33
scientesin terms of distopian books, 1984 and Brave New World get all the pressDec 26 09:34
scientesoh wow, Around the World in Eighty Days was translated from French, I though it was in English....Dec 26 09:36
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oiaohmhttps://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46674706  Hmm Dec 26 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hot tub hack reveals washed-up security protection - BBC NewsDec 26 10:26
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schestowitzkaniini: pingDec 26 15:25
schestowitzis it possible we need to allocate fewer cores for both VMs to boot?Dec 26 15:26
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121252Dec 26 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 26 16:52
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121151Dec 26 17:00
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1812110Dec 26 17:19
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XRevan86MinceR: Seems fakeDec 26 17:20
XRevan86though maybe the "vandal" removed the paint badlyDec 26 17:21
schestowitzMinceR: what is this damaged vessel?Dec 26 17:24
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Dec 26 17:25
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/dhACiJD.gifDec 26 17:52
kaniinischestowitz: noDec 26 17:56
schestowitztessier wants us to switch over soon, I think I can update DNS once we're up with both VMs :-) :-)Dec 26 17:57
schestowitzkaniini: wife helping me test the web/use end of tuxmachines just to ensure it's all identicalDec 26 17:58
DaemonFC[m]I have a really bad cold. Dec 26 18:08
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DaemonFC[m]Of course the upside is I hate my neighbors so I blew my nose on my hand and then wiped it all over the doorknobs.Dec 26 18:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/bmdWsGZ.jpgDec 26 18:18
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schestowitzkaniini: can you try the kernel flag edd=of?Dec 26 18:28
schestowitz*offDec 26 18:28
kaniiniyou can do it via the vncDec 26 18:29
kaniini /etc/conf.d/qemu.techrightsDec 26 18:29
schestowitzok, cheersDec 26 18:29
kaniinishows which vnc screen it isDec 26 18:29
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schestowitzthe vnc for techrights is just hung on the errorDec 26 18:30
schestowitzso I can use the hypervisor over sshDec 26 18:30
schestowitzI tried passing as an argument to qemuDec 26 18:30
schestowitz# Any additional arguments to be passed to qemu-system-x86_64 command.Dec 26 18:34
schestowitz# extra_args="linux edd=off"Dec 26 18:34
schestowitzit throws an error as I think the only way is to get to /boot on the logical volumeDec 26 18:35
schestowitz(which I don't know how to access directly from, the hypervisor, sorry kaniini )Dec 26 18:35
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568301.jpgDec 26 18:46
schestowitzanyone here good at qemu and can help us set up the new VM?Dec 26 18:46
schestowitzstrange thing is, it used to boot OKDec 26 18:48
schestowitzqemu-system-x86_64: -device scsi-hd,drive=hd0,scsi-id=0: Could not open 'edd=off': No such file or directoryDec 26 18:51
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schestowitzdoes anyone know if qemu can let me enter logical volumes?Dec 26 18:54
schestowitzdirectly into the filesystem?Dec 26 18:54
schestowitzseems like a common problem http://www.google.com/search?q=qemu+edd+disable&hl=en-GB&gbv=2&oq=qemu+edd+disable&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...138760.144494.0.144669.35.11.8.16.0.0.217.1405.0j10j1.11.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..24.11.836.gdA7Uq81nacDec 26 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qemu edd disable - Google SearchDec 26 18:56
schestowitzthey all suggest changing the boot/grub lines, but I cannot access the VM directly to do thisDec 26 18:57
kaniiniyou have to go into the grub promptDec 26 18:57
kaniinivia the VNC consoleDec 26 18:57
schestowitzoh, I seeDec 26 18:58
schestowitzlike when I boot it?Dec 26 18:58
schestowitzI cannot log in fast enough to see grubDec 26 18:59
schestowitzI could see it with tuxmachines (finnix)Dec 26 18:59
schestowitzwhen I enter the password to enter techrights it's already hung after that edd thingDec 26 18:59
schestowitzkaniini: I've tried function keys, tty hotkeys etc. let me see if I can reboot it and access vnc even fasterDec 26 19:00
kaniinimaybe we could try to bootDec 26 19:01
kaniiniinto finnixDec 26 19:01
kaniiniand change it that wayDec 26 19:01
schestowitzthat would be good, thank you, kaniiniDec 26 19:01
kaniiniokDec 26 19:01
schestowitztessier wants to shut down his DC soonDec 26 19:01
kaniinii'll work on it in a bitDec 26 19:01
kaniiniyeahDec 26 19:01
kaniininpDec 26 19:01
schestowitzcheers mate, appreciated a lotDec 26 19:02
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568172.pngDec 26 19:35
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567827.jpgDec 26 20:12
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/565507.jpgDec 26 20:13
XRevan86MinceR: I expected jumper cables.Dec 26 20:20
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MinceR:)Dec 26 20:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 26/12/2018: 4MLinux 28.0 Beta and LibreOffice 6.2 RC1 http://techrights.org/2018/12/26/libreoffice-6-2-rc1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/78a81884-70d6-47d7-923f-32d4d602219f]Dec 26 20:26
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/O3qU4UD.gifvDec 26 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurDec 26 21:10
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567557.jpgDec 26 21:34
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567518.jpgDec 26 22:02
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18122157Dec 26 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 26 22:34
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/wr6karz.gifDec 26 22:52
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MinceRhttps://media.oglaf.com/comic/threekings.jpgDec 26 23:09
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17112942   https://ircz.de/p/17111226Dec 26 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 26 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 26 23:40
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1712186Dec 27 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 27 00:23
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1712174Dec 27 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 27 00:46
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17121645Dec 27 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 27 01:08
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/b5zX0ZL.jpgDec 27 01:29
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17121640Dec 27 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 27 02:06
acer-box____https://www.revealnews.org/article/for-people-of-color-banks-are-shutting-the-door-to-homeownership/Dec 27 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revealnews.org | Racial discrimination: Banks are shutting door to homeownershipRevealDec 27 03:30
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chrome OS to test early GPU support for Linux apps soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118852 [https://pleroma.site/objects/062a0908-32cb-4d56-be20-da9c8f6c8cc0]Dec 27 04:38
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware/Modding: SeeedStudio BeagleBone Green, PlayStation Classic and Leap Motion http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118854 [https://pleroma.site/objects/100691ad-cf37-4fc4-a6c8-a96aa585479b]Dec 27 04:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Kotlin, Python, GAction (Fractal/GNOME), SpaceVim http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118855 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e80585f7-4892-4e10-bdc5-f055ae8b7408]Dec 27 04:51
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schestowitzkaniini: good morningDec 27 12:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The x86 Platform Driver Updates Land In Linux 4.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118859 [https://pleroma.site/objects/514cadce-d3cc-47c5-8ea3-5d8ec8c76324]Dec 27 12:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Well done, Elive! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118860 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e07a6850-5eab-4015-b8a0-6623c52db878]Dec 27 12:23
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MinceR(audio) https://imgur.com/gallery/qYPDmodDec 27 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dashing Through the Riffs - Album on ImgurDec 27 15:51
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567765.jpgDec 27 16:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts: Ubuntu Podcast, The Linux Link Tech Show, LINUX Unplugged http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4ecb928-9879-4e24-944b-de86f6ee45a3]Dec 27 16:02
XRevan86MinceR: The motherboard isn't inside the computer, the computer is the processor, so it is inside the motherboard.Dec 27 16:06
XRevan86Granted that's more stretched as it's more like the whole thing is like a human brain.Dec 27 16:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Video Game History Foundation, Heartbound and HEARTBEAT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118866 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb74a470-ac81-4b0f-9344-b0e0256524b6]Dec 27 16:11
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MinceRXRevan86: the human brain is a lot more than just a processorDec 27 16:16
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XRevan86Ugh, it's holiday season and I still haven't picked myself a new laptop.Dec 27 16:18
XRevan86I'm discouraged by the level of complexity and margin for failureDec 27 16:19
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/565675.jpgDec 27 16:38
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/QG1OB2y.gifvDec 27 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Comfy kitties nap time. Dec 27 17:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/12/2018: SpaceVim 1.0.0 and antiX 17.3 http://techrights.org/2018/12/27/antix-17-3-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/f8afc866-0293-44d3-b0d1-2ffefe645ca4]Dec 27 17:26
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567894.jpgDec 27 17:37
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567362.jpgDec 27 18:09
schestowitzkaniini: ping?Dec 27 18:15
kaniinihiDec 27 18:19
kaniinii'll try to get techrights into finnix asapDec 27 18:19
*XRevan86 looks at the calendarDec 27 18:25
*XRevan86 forgot to post https://youtu.be/nranUeNkXpM %)Dec 27 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"CHRISTMAS IS HERE!" — A Bad Lip Reading of Donald Trump - YouTubeDec 27 18:25
schestowitzkaniini: cheers mate!Dec 27 18:49
schestowitzXRevan86: those are always funny (their videos)Dec 27 18:49
XRevan86schestowitz: I like their songsDec 27 18:52
schestowitzthis one isn't so funnyDec 27 18:53
schestowitzat least it's only 2 minutedDec 27 18:53
schestowitzat least it's only 2 minutesDec 27 18:53
XRevan86* 2:28 minutesDec 27 18:53
XRevan86http://cs4.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2015-02_6/14250746785769.jpgDec 27 18:54
XRevan86(the drug article of the RF law, works like "4:20" I guess)Dec 27 18:56
XRevan86http://www.doodoo.ru/uploads/posts/2012-05/228-01.jpgDec 27 18:56
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567251.jpgDec 27 21:51
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567147.pngDec 27 22:03
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18122038Dec 27 22:40
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/5Vst3Uv.gifvDec 27 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Why not ?Dec 27 23:02
XRevan86RussiaDec 27 23:03
MinceR:)Dec 27 23:09
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DaemonFC[m]I found the European releases of the Talking Heads stuff. The original CDs. Dec 28 00:04
DaemonFC[m]This is what should have been released as "Brick".Dec 28 00:04
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XRevan86> technically, pleroma uses the activitypub c2s protocol internally. we would expose it to the outside if people actually had clients for it.Dec 28 00:19
XRevan86kaniini: And AndStatus is seeking a server for itDec 28 00:19
XRevan86IIRC, AP C2S is in the works there.Dec 28 00:20
kaniiniXRevan86: unfortunately that's not enough for me to careDec 28 00:20
XRevan86kaniini: ehDec 28 00:20
kaniinione mobile client which cannot do anything with it that they wouldnt be able to do with the other APIs we supportDec 28 00:21
kaniinithere needs to be a compelling usecaseDec 28 00:21
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MinceRinb4 "we'd write a client for it if it was exposed"Dec 28 01:12
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: XFS RAID0 Benchmarks Across Twenty SSDs vs. EXT4 & Btrfs On Ubuntu Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118877 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9122075a-c74d-46b0-9e7c-3fa56d7285e5]Dec 28 01:14
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17121611Dec 28 01:16
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schestowitzlucky for him raterDec 28 01:22
schestowitzMinceR: could be worse... he could identity as an attack helicopterDec 28 01:22
MinceRshe wouldn't let an attack helicopter frisk herDec 28 01:27
schestowitzoh, trust me, she will!Dec 28 01:28
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Patching Qt5Network for Christmas http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118880 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d58446b5-9a28-4860-bbb1-f96624e9e5e0]Dec 28 02:04
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17121132Dec 28 02:26
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schestowitzXRevan86: oddly enough meduza started giving stories in Russian, not EnglishDec 28 02:42
schestowitzsame RSS feedDec 28 02:42
schestowitznow only Russian, maybe an accidentDec 28 02:43
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1712096Dec 28 02:51
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18121759Dec 28 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 28 15:14
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120641Dec 28 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 28 15:24
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120516Dec 28 15:58
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schestowitzkaniini: ping?Dec 28 16:30
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MinceRhttps://hugelol.com/lol/567201Dec 28 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Mom told me not to send the "dragon eating little girl" sticker again.Dec 28 16:35
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schestowitzthe background kind of changes thingsDec 28 16:45
schestowitzbut maybe I'm not getting the point of the joke, MinceRDec 28 16:45
MinceRthe dark background turns the partial cookie into a little girl's headDec 28 16:46
schestowitzyeah, I saw t hatDec 28 16:47
schestowitzis there more to the joke though?Dec 28 16:47
MinceRnoDec 28 16:47
schestowitzI thought maybe "dark mode"Dec 28 16:47
MinceR:)Dec 28 16:48
schestowitzas in, mom sees it differently on her radar ('phone')Dec 28 16:48
schestowitzXRevan86: the rss feed went bonkers for meduzaDec 28 16:51
schestowitzyesterday it became all Russian, with like two dozen stories a dayDec 28 16:51
schestowitzdid they quit doing English? I didn't change the URL.Dec 28 16:51
XRevan86https://meduza.io/rss/en/all I see Russian here indeedDec 28 16:52
schestowitzAll RussianDec 28 16:52
schestowitzno exceptionDec 28 16:52
schestowitzI could do with mixDec 28 16:52
schestowitzbut if it's all Russian I can't even read the lettersDec 28 16:52
schestowitzunlike say French or German, which I can pick in small bitsDec 28 16:53
XRevan86Thanks goodness for https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/rsspreviewDec 28 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | RSSPreview – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)Dec 28 16:53
schestowitzIt lasted in English for like a week and I was happyDec 28 16:53
schestowitzhttps://meduza.io/games/sdelat-seychas-ili-otlozhit-na-potom-proveryaem-naskolko-vy-reshitelny-testDec 28 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEDec 28 16:53
XRevan86sponsored materialDec 28 16:54
schestowitzwill it change back to English?Dec 28 16:55
schestowitzit flooded my feeds, they do dozens of stories a day and it's all Russian nowDec 28 16:56
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm thinking of the best way to contact themDec 28 16:58
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schestowitzXRevan86: for now I'm deleting the feed, it's taking over my rss client, makes me look like some spy :-)Dec 28 16:59
schestowitzBTW, some Russian 'nationalists' complained that I was linking to this site Dec 28 17:00
XRevan86schestowitz: hahDec 28 17:00
XRevan86schestowitz: Can you show how? :)Dec 28 17:01
XRevan86I wonder what is their exact reasoningDec 28 17:01
schestowitznot good for RussiaDec 28 17:03
schestowitzOrDec 28 17:03
schestowitzOther countries tooDec 28 17:03
schestowitzi.e. the hypocrisy cardDec 28 17:03
schestowitzRussia and China both use this propaganda patternDec 28 17:03
schestowitzand scripted questions in press eventsDec 28 17:03
XRevan86schestowitz: It takes a critical look on Russian politicians thus it is invalid?Dec 28 17:04
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567081.jpgDec 28 17:22
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schestowitzXRevan86: apparentlyDec 28 17:44
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/568242.pngDec 28 17:45
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XRevan86schestowitz: It's a typical United Russia position that criticism is destabilising and unpatrioticDec 28 17:49
XRevan86schestowitz: This shows from the way media is right now in Russia. Every controversy will be bottled up to maintain the illusion of bliss.Dec 28 17:50
XRevan86I cannot think of a better idea, so I'll just write to reports@ of Meduza %)Dec 28 17:51
XRevan86Done, the email has been sent.Dec 28 17:55
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XRevan86schestowitz: And it's not even whistleblowing, it's just uncomfortable news.Dec 28 18:03
XRevan86The whole Russia is like one big state secretDec 28 18:04
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schestowitzseems so, XRevan86Dec 28 18:18
schestowitzthat's why I wanted Meduza backDec 28 18:18
schestowitzWestern media doesn't seem too credible on Russia most of the timeDec 28 18:18
schestowitzreporters repeat one another with dubious claims, not people reporting from withinDec 28 18:19
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't think western media actually cares, hence the result.Dec 28 18:19
XRevan86Don't want to show what Russia is like but paint Russia in some way for their agenda.Dec 28 18:22
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17102216Dec 28 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 28 18:22
XRevan86$ echo $USERDec 28 18:22
XRevan86userDec 28 18:22
XRevan86Rich fantasy, yes.Dec 28 18:23
schestowitzroy@ted:~$ echo $USSRDec 28 18:29
schestowitzroy@ted:~$ Dec 28 18:29
XRevan86yeltsin@ted:~$ unset USSRDec 28 18:30
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MinceR:)Dec 28 18:42
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/567137.jpgDec 28 18:47
schestowitzdoesn't matter if it vibrates when you're impotentDec 28 18:52
schestowitzbetter get an orgasm watching old tapes of Steve Jobs, not some wireless 'i' thing up the arseDec 28 18:52
XRevan86I think this is an homage to https://youtu.be/y-bYSC6OT6sDec 28 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rectal Computer - YouTubeDec 28 18:53
schestowitz#apple cultists were fooled not only into installing #listeningDevices for #amazon but also using the 'wrong' software for these (not shipping the audio to the Pentagon' s tentacles as intended) https://fossbytes.com/this-fake-amazon-alexa-setup-app-was-fooling-ios-users/Dec 28 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | This Fake Amazon Alexa Setup App Was Fooling iOS UsersDec 28 18:54
XRevan86schestowitz: This probably wouldn't've been news if Apple didn't have tyrannical policies for their App StoreDec 28 18:56
XRevan86A lot of good stuff cannot get through, but this hasDec 28 18:57
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566983.jpgDec 28 19:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 28/12/2018: Mesa 18.2.8 Released, Ubuntu/GNOME on a Tablet http://techrights.org/2018/12/28/mesa-18-2-8-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/b19c8a24-dc2b-4095-b7ca-25f4009eddc3]Dec 28 19:50
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/wFGmV0P.gifvDec 28 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurDec 28 20:00
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/6br4H3b.gifvDec 28 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurDec 28 20:30
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/gnQ2oqA.jpgDec 28 20:54
XRevan86What to do if I want to sit in my chair next to the computer, but there is already a cat relaxing there?Dec 28 21:29
MinceRpick up the cat, sit on the chair, put the cat down againDec 28 21:41
MinceRor use another chairDec 28 21:41
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cubexyzinteresting story about the demise of sears... read up on eddie lampertDec 28 23:12
cubexyzpeople call him a "vulture capitalist"Dec 28 23:13
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/WqbDClk.pngDec 28 23:35
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/h6oJITS.jpgDec 29 00:21
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120449Dec 29 00:54
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120444Dec 29 01:39
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schestowitzkaniini: I was hoping to finish the migration by weekend's end. Should be possible if we can just power on techrights in the new DC.Dec 29 02:03
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DaemonFC[m]Phoronix ran some new benchmarks. Shows that almost all apps compiled with the GCC 9 branch are performing better.Dec 29 05:11
DaemonFC[m]Some significantly so.Dec 29 05:11
DaemonFC[m]LAME does well with it.Dec 29 05:11
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvCGqhShNnkDec 29 05:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Wearable Computer Also Sucks Your Dick - YouTubeDec 29 05:29
scientesXRevan86, like that?Dec 29 05:34
schestowitzAnd one more:Dec 29 05:37
schestowitzhttps://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2018/Fahrplan/events/9410.htmlDec 29 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fahrplan.events.ccc.de | Lecture: LibreSilicon | Thursday | Schedule 35th Chaos Communication CongressDec 29 05:37
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I didn't see the results, but we linked to the articleDec 29 05:38
schestowitzwife did anywayDec 29 05:38
scientesholy moley schestowitz Dec 29 05:38
scientesthats pretty bad-assDec 29 05:38
scientes1µmDec 29 05:38
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: your hometown was in the news the other dayDec 29 05:38
schestowitzhuntingtonDec 29 05:38
scientes8086 was 3 umDec 29 05:39
schestowitzsee risvcDec 29 05:39
schestowitzI never explored it directlyDec 29 05:39
schestowitzI hope we'll to do hardware what we did to softwareDec 29 05:39
scientesmeh, chinese model for hardware is working quite wellDec 29 05:40
scientesmuch better than every open hardware attempt yetDec 29 05:40
scientesdamn the 386 was 1.5 or 1 umDec 29 05:40
scientesso yeah that is doableDec 29 05:41
scientesand even 486 was done at 1 umDec 29 05:41
scientesschestowitz, there is also j-coreDec 29 05:42
scientesi always felt j-core was the way to do it---much as all the companies are making their own arm64 chipsDec 29 05:42
scientesthere is also the propritary mill cpuDec 29 05:43
scienteswhich look promising on betting more efficientDec 29 05:43
schestowitzThere's a new article about this...Dec 29 05:56
schestowitzhttps://technode.com/2018/12/20/china-global-tech-game-advantage/Dec 29 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China looks to private capital, open source technology for global tech game advantage · TechNodeDec 29 05:56
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schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How-To_GeekDec 29 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | How-To Geek - WikipediaDec 29 06:24
schestowitz"How-To Geek is an online technology magazine founded by Lowell Heddings in 2007. On January 1, 2015, Whitson Gordon replaced Lowell Heddings as editor-in-chief"Dec 29 06:24
schestowitzInterestingDec 29 06:24
schestowitzAlexa rankIncrease 941 (May 2018)Dec 29 06:24
schestowitzhttps://www.howtogeek.com/235372/with-1-billion-views-so-far-were-moving-how-to-geek-forward/Dec 29 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | With 1 Billion Views So Far, We’re Moving How-To Geek ForwardDec 29 06:25
schestowitz"Many months went by where I worked 20+ hours each day, writing articles before going to my day job, and then staying up all night long writing articles. "Dec 29 06:26
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: In January, the EU starts running Bug Bounties on Free and Open Source Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118928 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79fed520-fd11-47fa-af71-2eb94a6cbcee]Dec 29 06:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Video Walkthroughs of antiX 17.3 and Linux Mint 19.1 "MATE" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118930 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f43f85e4-e9b4-4ebc-87aa-cee5b6c303e2]Dec 29 07:06
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schestowitzkaniini: Dec 29 07:53
schestowitzroy@ted:~$ whois pleroma.siteDec 29 07:53
schestowitzDomain Name: PLEROMA.SITEDec 29 07:53
schestowitzroy@ted:~$ whois pleroma.siteDec 29 07:53
schestowitzDomain Name: PLEROMA.SITEDec 29 07:53
schestowitzthis lists AWS as nameserversDec 29 07:54
schestowitzwhich nameserver would be best to use for tuxmachines? I went to try sending the traffic to the new server later todayDec 29 07:54
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schestowitzkaniini: disregard what I wrote above, I've used my Webhost (for my personal site) to manage DNS/nameserversDec 29 11:18
schestowitzkaniini: tuxmachines now running very successfully on the server you kindly donatedDec 29 11:18
schestowitztessier: tuxmachines has been moved over successfully. techrights will be next. I've also unhooked tuxmachines from your DNS servers.Dec 29 11:39
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schestowitzkaniini: I need urgent helpDec 29 14:56
schestowitzthe site is now live on the new box, but it froze (the VM, I had to restart it)Dec 29 14:57
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schestowitzah, I fixed it, kaniini, it's back onlineDec 29 15:00
schestowitzturns out I need to get around the finnix boot menu, or let a minute pass until it gets to the right boot optionDec 29 15:00
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scientesschestowitz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5QkM2Work0Dec 29 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stanford Seminar - An Alternative to the American way of Innovation - YouTubeDec 29 16:35
scientesschestowitz, the news is useless when the action is happening in a foreign languageDec 29 16:35
scienteshere is a chinese-speaker that actually went thereDec 29 16:36
scientesand actually does business thereDec 29 16:36
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scientesthe british/american empire is dead, and with it, English language dominanceDec 29 16:37
scientesas Issac Asimov put it, it is hard for a 2nd language to persist unless it is an empire (he was talking about Latin), because the women actually speak the local language, and who would go their whole life without ever talking to a womanDec 29 16:38
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scientesthat is why we need to work on Unspell now (alternate orthography for English to make it easier)Dec 29 16:39
XRevan86As a speaker of English as a second language…Dec 29 16:40
XRevan86Like I said before, it is the phonetic diversity that gets me (and native speakers alike)Dec 29 16:41
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1712043Dec 29 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 29 16:41
scientesXRevan86, I remember elementary school, endlessly memorizing spellingsDec 29 16:41
scienteslike they're, their, there; and witch whichDec 29 16:41
scientesand funky spellings like "cellO" (I play the CHELO)Dec 29 16:42
scientesor violinchelloDec 29 16:42
scientesit is almost as bad as what Chinese students go through, and China is the only country when almost everyone knows their "chinese language ability" as determined by a standardized testDec 29 16:43
scientesevery country with phonetic alphabet it is just "literate/non-literate"Dec 29 16:43
XRevan86scientes: Ukraine has a phonetic alphabet, and its level of literacy is lower than, say, in RussiaDec 29 16:44
scientesand the chinese facebook (WeChat) had to add a voice message feature because of rural un-literate peopleDec 29 16:44
scientesthat's cause the language is uselessDec 29 16:44
scientesjust like no-one writes down non-modern standard arabicDec 29 16:45
XRevan86scientes: Because their dialectal diversity is higher than in Russia (I think), but the acceptable boundaries of the standard language are on the contrary, lower.Dec 29 16:45
scientesand with unspell, Dmitry Orlov's plan was to write a computer program that can convert from English to Unspell and visa-versaDec 29 16:45
scienteshe's working on another project,  but this doesn't require much funding to get doneDec 29 16:46
MinceR"cello" is from italian, is it not?Dec 29 16:46
XRevan86Ukrainian is like a spectrum from more influenced by Polish (in the West) and more influenced by (Great) Russian (in the East)Dec 29 16:46
XRevan86and the standard language is somewhere in the middle (but more Eastern)Dec 29 16:47
scientesXRevan86, what do you mean by (Great)? Is that like high-German?Dec 29 16:47
scienteswhich is the official GermanDec 29 16:48
XRevan86scientes: That's one way of distinguishing kinds of eastern slavic languagesDec 29 16:49
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120134Dec 29 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 29 16:49
XRevan86scientes: "Great" here means "Big" (because it's the same way in Russian)Dec 29 16:50
scientesahh okDec 29 16:50
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Great_Russians_in_Russian_Empire_by_region_1897.pngDec 29 16:51
scientesbut there are also intuit living up in siberia?Dec 29 16:52
XRevan86In modern times Great Russians self-identify as just Russians, so it's kind of archaic.Dec 29 16:52
MinceRthey're not that great anyway :>Dec 29 16:52
XRevan86but Ukrainian and Polish have a distinction (albeit based on the work Rossia)Dec 29 16:52
XRevan86* on the wordDec 29 16:53
scientesstill seems like Ukranian is a pidginDec 29 16:53
scientesPolish is a language with a rich history, but not considered very highly.Dec 29 16:53
XRevan86scientes: No, it's definitely not a pidginDec 29 16:54
scientesoh there is a difference between pidgin and creoleDec 29 16:55
XRevan86The development of Ukrainian was gradual, always with native speakersDec 29 16:56
scientessimilar to the development of romance languageDec 29 16:57
scientes*languagesDec 29 16:57
XRevan86Old Russian (East Slavic) → West Russian (or Russian spoken in the Great Duchy of Lithuania) → UkrainianDec 29 16:57
scientesand has there been a purge of French words from Russian?Dec 29 16:58
XRevan86scientes: noDec 29 16:58
scientes(granted, I don't know what I am talking about)Dec 29 16:58
XRevan86scientes: Maybe you're thinking of a purge of Slavic words from Romanian :)Dec 29 16:58
scienteslike I know that Turkish has a purge of Arabic wordsDec 29 16:59
scientesand the French are of course very proud of their language as declare that "blog" should not be a French word (lol)Dec 29 16:59
XRevan86scientes: In IT of Russia and Ukraine the amount of English loanwords is starting to become annoying.Dec 29 17:00
scientesthe Norman invasion has a huge influence on English, so I just assumed it would on RussianDec 29 17:00
scientesXRevan86, even the Chinese are using themDec 29 17:00
scientesor at least when they speak englishDec 29 17:02
scientesthey say "it is a bug, not a featureDec 29 17:02
scientesit is a feature, not a bugDec 29 17:02
scientesthe chinese also really like game theoryDec 29 17:03
scienteswin-win, blah blahDec 29 17:03
XRevan86I don't mean words like "blog", but words like "pointer", "string", etc.Dec 29 17:03
scientesmouseDec 29 17:03
scientesoh of courseDec 29 17:03
scientesbecause English is the language of programmingDec 29 17:03
scientes(not that it has to be-----TAoCP was translated into Russian)Dec 29 17:04
scientesbut there are practically reasons for itDec 29 17:04
XRevan86scientes: Russian as a language for programming is terribleDec 29 17:04
scientesand ruby and zig, and many other languages use English keywordsDec 29 17:04
scientesand many languages can't handle non-ASCII as wellDec 29 17:04
scientesnot to mention they will probably never be able to handle right-to-left languagesDec 29 17:05
XRevan86English's lack of inflections makes it well-suited for programmingDec 29 17:05
scientesit is just much more practical to use a single language for programmingDec 29 17:05
scientesand yeah I guess English, which doesn't have gender suffixes like Spanish for example, is more suitedDec 29 17:06
scientes"string" may be an English word, but it is hardly English p.luckyretail.com/Uploadfile/20160620/068455A4/068455A4.jpgDec 29 17:09
scientesthese are technical wordsDec 29 17:09
XRevan86https://video-kursov.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/programmirovanie-v-1C-Predpriyatie-8.2-2.jpgDec 29 17:09
XRevan861C uses Russian for its programming language.Dec 29 17:10
scienteswow! not a single latin characterDec 29 17:10
scienteswhat language is that?Dec 29 17:10
XRevan86The embedded language of 1C:EnterpriseDec 29 17:11
scientesoh in the bottom-rightDec 29 17:11
MinceR29 180958 <+XRevan86> https://video-kursov.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/programmirovanie-v-1C-Predpriyatie-8.2-2.jpgDec 29 17:11
MinceRewDec 29 17:11
MinceRthat's even worse than pascalDec 29 17:11
XRevan86It feels Pascal-influenced (:Dec 29 17:12
scientesthe lack of braces is ugly certainlyDec 29 17:12
XRevan86though Wikipedia says it's Visual Basic influened actuallyDec 29 17:12
MinceRthat's about as horribleDec 29 17:12
XRevan86probably moreDec 29 17:12
MinceRthey could have gone whole hog and translated cobol into russian insteadDec 29 17:12
XRevan86"Каждый" → "Для Каждого"Dec 29 17:13
scientesor just used a language that doesn't require English keywords like perlDec 29 17:13
XRevan86a good example of an inflectionDec 29 17:13
XRevan86Цикл → КонецЦиклаDec 29 17:13
MinceRmaybe even banned mathematical formulae, forcing the ADD A TO B GIVING C style stuff instead :>Dec 29 17:13
XRevan86makes it harder to use words as blocksDec 29 17:13
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/17120130Dec 29 17:14
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scientesthe english keyword thing is so engrained that even Ruby does it, despite being developed and created in JapanDec 29 17:14
scientesalthough they kinda had to, because this was before UTF-8Dec 29 17:15
XRevan86Compared to Japanese issues with Russian are nothing :)Dec 29 17:15
scientesand ruby really likes english keywords too (much more than a c-style language)Dec 29 17:16
scientesdo endDec 29 17:16
XRevan86Compare to PythonDec 29 17:17
scientesI really like the zig language, but it will be a shame when the US economy collapses....Dec 29 17:18
XRevan86scientes: Don't worry, English isn't going anywhere.Dec 29 17:18
scientescause I ended up mostly in C because the problems of other languagesDec 29 17:18
scientesand zig is striving to be a better CDec 29 17:19
scientesno, I am saying development will stop and zig language will dieDec 29 17:19
scientesI'm waiting for my passportDec 29 17:19
scientesI am probably going to go to PanamaDec 29 17:19
scientesI need to get out of the USDec 29 17:19
scientesschestowitz, is this channel still logged?Dec 29 17:20
XRevan86scientes: yesDec 29 17:21
XRevan86scientes: What a great place to criticise your own government (:Dec 29 17:21
scientesno, there is no risk in thatDec 29 17:21
scientestalking to some chinese people on the web, I realized I needed to learn that skill (of not criticizing the government)Dec 29 17:22
XRevan86The logs are searchable tooDec 29 17:22
scientesof course they areDec 29 17:22
scienteseven the propaganda of the US openly criticizes the governmentDec 29 17:23
scientesI think the best description of the US economy is that it is a pyramid scheme based on oilDec 29 17:23
XRevan86scientes: At least you have a pyramidDec 29 17:24
scientesand that would explain why criticism is OK (as long as you aren't subverting the pyramid scheme)Dec 29 17:24
scienteswell politics does wash that money around quite a bitDec 29 17:24
scientesparticularly the minimum wageDec 29 17:24
scientesand a big reason for that politics, historicall, was the existance of the USSRDec 29 17:25
scientesI just bought a bunch of winter camping gear---I am going to do a week or so out in the snowDec 29 17:27
scientesI was told i needed showshoes and that like doubled my expense of the tripDec 29 17:27
scientesI am still not sure if I can find liquid water, or if i need to bring a stoveDec 29 17:27
XRevan86Stats of Russian petrol prices: https://www.autostat.ru/application/includes/blocks/big_photo/images/cache/000/057/267/7d6507c3-670-0.jpg?_=1533021019Dec 29 17:28
XRevan86http://grosh-blog.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85-%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BD-2.jpgDec 29 17:29
scientes45.2 cents/litre?Dec 29 17:29
scientesor is that rouples?Dec 29 17:29
XRevan86it's roublesDec 29 17:29
scientesoh that is not expensiveDec 29 17:30
scienteswant me to walk outside and get the price?Dec 29 17:30
scienteseurope is MUCH more expensiveDec 29 17:30
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e29Bbyu4fIDec 29 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yellow Vests – 6th round: Tear gas, water canons deployed at protest in Paris - YouTubeDec 29 17:31
scientesalso https://theintercept.com/2018/06/05/brazil-truckers-strike/Dec 29 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Brazil Truckers' Strike Exposes Political Chaos as Elections NearDec 29 17:32
scientesboth over fuel pricesDec 29 17:32
scientesI don't driveDec 29 17:32
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XRevan86A second, I'm trying to figure out how they call AI-95 in the USDec 29 17:32
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scientesis that 95 octane petrol?Dec 29 17:35
XRevan86yesDec 29 17:35
scientes(R+M)/2Dec 29 17:35
scientesthere are many ways to measure octane, but (R+M)/2 is the only legal way in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_ratingDec 29 17:36
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XRevan86the commonly used in Russia are AI-92, AI-95, AI-98Dec 29 17:36
scientesXRevan86, it is differn't in every state hereDec 29 17:36
scientesthe highly altitude and more rural states use lower octaneDec 29 17:36
scientesalso the US has some triethyl lead pollutionDec 29 17:37
scientes(I am not sure why, as there was always plentiful oil----you only need triethyl lead when you make oil from coal....)Dec 29 17:38
scientesas the Germans had to do during WW2Dec 29 17:38
MinceRbecause extra pollution is the conservative wayDec 29 17:38
MinceRlike rolling coalDec 29 17:38
XRevan86scientes: Apparently AI is RONDec 29 17:39
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/ADbUZZh.gifvDec 29 17:40
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XRevan86yes, it is RONDec 29 17:40
XRevan86scientes: That price was for RON-95 or AKI-90Dec 29 17:41
scientesalso the vast majority of gasoline in the US 15% ethanolDec 29 17:41
scientesbecause of that the Russian gasoline is superiorDec 29 17:42
XRevan86Right now it costs 45.7 roubles/litre or 65 cents/litreDec 29 17:42
scientesits a giant boon-doggle for the corn farmersDec 29 17:42
scienteswell actually monsanto and cargillDec 29 17:42
scientesXRevan86, we sell petrol in gallonsDec 29 17:43
XRevan86RON-92 or AKI-88 right now costs 42.14 roubles/litre or 60 cents/litreDec 29 17:43
XRevan86scientes: sucks to be you :PDec 29 17:43
scientesits not the price that collapses the economy howeverDec 29 17:44
XRevan86(kidding)Dec 29 17:44
scientesits when the price goes up and downDec 29 17:44
scientesand the percentage of costs that are energyDec 29 17:44
scientesI think gasoline should be much more expensiveDec 29 17:45
scientesso that the taxes can actually pay the cost of the roadsDec 29 17:45
XRevan86meanwhile I'm looking for the average price of petrol in the USDec 29 17:46
XRevan86(for AKI-88)Dec 29 17:46
*scientes is pantingDec 29 17:48
scientesjust went outside---i have a gasstation 2 blocks awayDec 29 17:48
scientes3.19/gallonDec 29 17:48
scientesbut that is 15% ethanol, so it is ever more expensiveDec 29 17:48
scientesI think that is 85 octane, but that is just a guessDec 29 17:49
scientesoh, washington minimum octane is now 87Dec 29 17:49
XRevan86I assume RON-92 is like Regular, RON-95 is like Midgrade and RON-98 is like PremiumDec 29 17:50
scientesXRevan86, it differs by stateDec 29 17:50
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._State_Fuel_Octane_StandardsDec 29 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | U.S. State Fuel Octane Standards - WikipediaDec 29 17:50
scientesbut it is much higher than it use to beDec 29 17:51
scientesI went to yellowstone in a car, and you could get 81 in idaho, montana, and wyomingDec 29 17:51
scientesabout 10 years agoDec 29 17:51
scientesok, enthalpy of fusion of water 333.55 J/g, and propane has 50.33 MH/kgDec 29 17:53
scienteswhy such a stupid unit, MJ/kg----that is the same as KJ/gDec 29 17:53
XRevan86kilogramme is the default unit, though %)Dec 29 17:54
XRevan86not grammeDec 29 17:54
XRevan86gramme is kilogramme / 1000Dec 29 17:55
scienteswell damn, propane has LOTS of energyDec 29 17:55
scientesi guess that is because it is using the heavy oxygen out of the airDec 29 17:55
scientes150g of liquid water per gram of propaneDec 29 17:55
scientesalthough that means i have to bring a metal water bottle tooDec 29 17:58
scientesI just don't like going with too much crapDec 29 18:00
scientesand an oil lamp is too fagileDec 29 18:04
scientesi guess that is what use to be usedDec 29 18:04
scientesalso how do you up the burn rate of an oil lamp to actually melt a sizable amount of snow?Dec 29 18:06
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/fb1Vv3F.jpgDec 29 18:20
scienteswell i guess i am going to see what i can get at the thrift storeDec 29 18:21
scientesI am not excited to carry fossil fuels on my tripDec 29 18:21
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566759.jpgDec 29 18:42
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566547.jpgDec 29 19:08
schestowitzkaniini: tuxmachines VM forze againDec 29 19:28
kaniinii wonder if we can set up a watchdogDec 29 19:28
schestowitzon the vnc terminal it acted odd too, entering weird symbols when I typedDec 29 19:28
kaniinihummDec 29 19:28
schestowitzover ssh it just hunt after 4 hours and 13 mins uptimeDec 29 19:29
schestowitzI rebooted and it's back to normal. It happened also 4 hours ago, hence the limited uptimeDec 29 19:29
schestowitzprior to this, before shifting the site to the VM, there were no issues, so maybe server load plays a roleDec 29 19:30
kaniinii don't think soDec 29 19:30
kaniinihave you tried updating the tuxmachines kernelDec 29 19:30
schestowitzI'll check /var/log for clues againDec 29 19:30
schestowitzNo, I haven't updates the machineDec 29 19:30
schestowitz*updatedDec 29 19:30
kaniiniyum -y update kernel i thinkDec 29 19:31
kaniinithere's no major load on the serverDec 29 19:31
kaniini0.63 load averageDec 29 19:31
schestowitzyea, about a third of the traffic still goes to the old IPDec 29 19:32
kaniini8.00 would be full loadDec 29 19:32
schestowitzInstalling:Dec 29 19:32
schestowitz kernel                       x86_64              2.6.32-696.6.3.el6                updates-copilotco               32 MDec 29 19:32
schestowitzUpdating for dependencies:Dec 29 19:32
schestowitz kernel-firmware              noarch              2.6.32-696.6.3.el6                updates-copilotco               29 MDec 29 19:32
kaniiniyeahDec 29 19:32
kaniinii feel likeDec 29 19:32
kaniiniperhaps the kernel on thereDec 29 19:32
kaniinihas problems with newer kvmDec 29 19:33
kaniiniwhat i want to do is eventually redo the vmsDec 29 19:33
kaniinias containersDec 29 19:33
schestowitzI need to change the reposDec 29 19:33
kaniinithat way we can get off of IBM HatDec 29 19:33
kaniinior whatever it is going to be called ;)Dec 29 19:33
schestowitzIBetDec 29 19:34
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566420.jpgDec 29 19:40
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/8eZrXI5.gifvDec 29 20:57
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/566412.jpgDec 29 21:19
XRevan86MinceR: No, not the most.Dec 29 21:20
MinceR:)Dec 29 21:21
XRevan86http://epicpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Wonderful-face-swap.jpg for instanceDec 29 21:21
MinceRXRevan86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2mla5vErUDec 29 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smoke face swap snapchat - YouTubeDec 29 21:22
XRevan86https://barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/nose-face-swap.jpg huh, a legit good design for a sci-fi alienDec 29 21:24
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