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| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0_-_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%88_%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9.jpg no one is criticising Ukraine's patriotism for instance | Dec 23 00:02 |
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| XRevan86 | except for Kremlin | Dec 23 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#World_War_II and Wikipedia | Dec 23 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Stepan Bandera - Wikipedia | Dec 23 00:03 | |
| XRevan86 | I'm risking of sounding anti-Ukraine, but yeah, this is the guy | Dec 23 00:05 |
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| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Ukraine#Controversial_awards | Dec 23 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hero of Ukraine - Wikipedia | Dec 23 00:09 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The point is, the figures like Stepan Bandera, who are pretty much Nazis, are fighters for the Ukraine sovereignity against the Soviets to them. | Dec 23 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | If they can have heroes who had involvement in the goddamn Holocaust, then why the South of the US cannot have freakin' slave owners? | Dec 23 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://wpolityce.pl/polityka/347083-waszczykowski-dla-wsieci-o-stosunkach-polsko-ukrainskich-nasz-przekaz-jest-bardzo-jasny-z-bandera-do-europy-nie-wejdziecie Poland has a problem with that too apparently. | Dec 23 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wpolityce.pl | Waszczykowski dla "wSieci" o stosunkach polsko-ukraińskich: Nasz przekaz jest bardzo jasny: z Banderą do Europy nie wejdziecie | Dec 23 00:19 | |
| scientes | two wrongs make a right amirite? | Dec 23 00:19 |
| scientes | https://i.imgur.com/jsOxM8A.gif | Dec 23 00:22 |
| scientes | lawls | Dec 23 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: apparently | Dec 23 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | I really don't understand why no one except Poland (and Russia) says that this is not okay | Dec 23 00:28 |
| scientes | is that about the law that says that you can't blame polish people for the halocaust? | Dec 23 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, that's the article from 2017 saying that Poland won't permit Ukraine's entry into the EU until they remove the Bandera's cult | Dec 23 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | Stepan Bandera didn't screw with the Moskovits and Jews, but with the Polish too | Dec 23 00:30 |
| scientes | yeah nobody else knows about that | Dec 23 00:30 |
| scientes | what about Hungary | Dec 23 00:30 |
| scientes | and its descent into tyranny | Dec 23 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | * didn't screw just with the | Dec 23 00:31 |
| scientes | https://outabouter.com/2018/12/21/canadian-gofundme-raises-6b-in-two-hours-to-pay-for-privacy-hedge-along-entire-us-border-2/ | Dec 23 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-outabouter.com | Canadian GoFundMe Raises $6B In Two Hours To Pay For Privacy Hedge Along Entire US Border – The Out And Abouter | Dec 23 00:31 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I know about that because of MinceR | Dec 23 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That is also related to mentioned by you "Neo-Nazis in Ukraine" | Dec 23 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think that makes Ukraine a Nazist regime, but Nazis as heroes they do have. | Dec 23 00:33 |
| scientes | probably cause the US is backing them | Dec 23 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | And Stepan Bandera's birthday is a national holiday now. | Dec 23 00:33 |
| scientes | like look at what just happened in Brazil | Dec 23 00:34 |
| scientes | US loves dictaitors | Dec 23 00:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Why not Putin then? %) | Dec 23 00:34 |
| scientes | *their* | Dec 23 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | My view of the world is pretty grim | Dec 23 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | There are no heroes in my narrative. | Dec 23 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | * on the world | Dec 23 00:36 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: patriotism is poison to the mind | Dec 23 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gop-one-party-rule-ends_us_5c1bf632e4b08aaf7a86858b | Dec 23 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | The GOP Ends Its One-Party Rule In Shambles | HuffPost | Dec 23 00:41 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yet it is a part of humanity that is hard to get rid of, like from alcohol. | Dec 23 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | or religion %) | Dec 23 00:43 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 23 00:43 |
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| MinceR | but humanity is working on it | Dec 23 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | Not in power to just say "Ukraine, Russia, stahp it" | Dec 23 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | * in my power | Dec 23 00:44 |
| MinceR | once humans kill themselves off, there won't be any nationalism, or racism, or religion, or drug abuse | Dec 23 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | It is in my power to form my sentences correctly the first time around, yet somehow… %) | Dec 23 00:44 |
| scientes | what about Kiev, Rus | Dec 23 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: History? | Dec 23 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What about it? | Dec 23 00:45 |
| scientes | yes history | Dec 23 00:45 |
| scientes | before the capital move to moscow | Dec 23 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | Once upon a time there was this viking that moved east to be king there… | Dec 23 00:46 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18091050 | Dec 23 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 23 00:46 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What about it though? %) | Dec 23 00:47 |
| scientes | well i dont want to say too much | Dec 23 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | The people of the Rus' were split basically | Dec 23 00:48 |
| scientes | I think what is important is what is best for the people of Ukraine | Dec 23 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Ukrainians and Bela*rus*ians are just as *Russ*ian as "Russians" are, if that's the confusion. | Dec 23 00:48 |
| scientes | and I don't really think the EU can do any good for them | Dec 23 00:48 |
| scientes | and it will bankrupt the EU faster | Dec 23 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | Like the Dutch and the Deutsch (Germans) | Dec 23 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | common history | Dec 23 00:49 |
| scientes | yeah, and Pennyslvania Dutch (amish) and Afrikaans (South Africa) | Dec 23 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | East Slavs ("Old" Russians) → West Russians, East Russians | Dec 23 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | West Russians → Ukrainians, Belarusians | Dec 23 00:50 |
| scientes | rather than getting them to speah hofdeutsche and being more like the UK and France or Spain or Portogul with continued colonial ties | Dec 23 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | that's the short story | Dec 23 00:51 |
| scientes | Its like how the US calls Persian, farsi | Dec 23 00:51 |
| scientes | cause they don't want to admit there there is a common history there or something like that | Dec 23 00:52 |
| MinceR | i thought the Farsi called themselves that | Dec 23 00:52 |
| scientes | yeah that is their own name of their language | Dec 23 00:52 |
| scientes | but it makes sense to translate it | Dec 23 00:52 |
| scientes | and admit that afghanistan and tajikistan speak the same langauge | Dec 23 00:52 |
| MinceR | sometimes the people themselves don't seem to like foreigners translating their names | Dec 23 00:52 |
| scientes | tajikistan don't even have their own language---its russian and persian | Dec 23 00:53 |
| scientes | well Spanish has a name for a person of the united states, while English doesn't....go figure | Dec 23 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | The self-name of Russia is Rossia, which is what Greeks called Rus' | Dec 23 00:53 |
| scientes | and now we call the later Romans Byzantines, because its too confusing to call someone Romans that don't have Rome as their capital | Dec 23 00:54 |
| MinceR | what's the spanish name? | Dec 23 00:54 |
| MinceR | how could they be romans if they don't have rome, though? | Dec 23 00:54 |
| MinceR | (especially considering that their empire split and rome was on the other side) | Dec 23 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And those "Greeks" I mentioned are actually from the Roman Empire, yes :) | Dec 23 00:54 |
| scientes | but that is what they called themselves, and even the Arabs called them Romans | Dec 23 00:54 |
| scientes | but i guess the Russians didn't | Dec 23 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That was still the Roman Empire legally. | Dec 23 00:55 |
| scientes | and they created "Roman law" | Dec 23 00:55 |
| scientes | Emporer Justinian | Dec 23 00:55 |
| scientes | MinceR, Estadounidense | Dec 23 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Indeed, there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_route_from_the_Varangians_to_the_Greeks | Dec 23 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trade route from the Varangians to the Greeks - Wikipedia | Dec 23 00:56 | |
| XRevan86 | to back that up | Dec 23 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | The famous trade route wasn't to the Romans, but to the Greeks. | Dec 23 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | из варяг в *греки* | Dec 23 00:56 |
| scientes | XRevan86, that is really interesting | Dec 23 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | > изъ варѧгъ въ греки | Dec 23 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | In Old Russian (East Slavic) | Dec 23 00:57 |
| scientes | cause I've read Arabic texts that refer to them as Romans | Dec 23 00:57 |
| scientes | before the fall of constantinople of course | Dec 23 00:58 |
| scientes | and they were taveling into the Volga, but no mention of the RUssians | Dec 23 00:58 |
| scientes | https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21927609-two-arabic-travel-books | Dec 23 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Two Arabic Travel Books: Accounts of China and India and Mission to the Volga by Abu Zayd Al-Sirafi | Dec 23 00:59 | |
| scientes | oh I guess iiiit does, i just forgot | Dec 23 01:00 |
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| scientes | "Crucially, he offers a description of the Viking Rus, including their customs, " | Dec 23 01:00 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: Russians called Constantinople Tsargrad | Dec 23 01:00 |
| scientes | oh thats a cool name | Dec 23 01:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It could refer to actual vikings | Dec 23 01:00 |
| XRevan86 | there were quite a bunch in Rus' | Dec 23 01:01 |
| scientes | he said that a woman played with herself in front of everyone | Dec 23 01:01 |
| scientes | it was an odd account | Dec 23 01:01 |
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| scientes | (and he was trying to show off his Muslim piety by telling that story) | Dec 23 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | It's as if there were a viking conquest of the territory, except without any opposition | Dec 23 01:03 |
| MinceR | scientes: ah, so usians :> | Dec 23 01:03 |
| MinceR | (or usonians, if you prefer Frank Lloyd Wright's term :> ) | Dec 23 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | later they just assimilated | Dec 23 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | En Esperanto la termo estas Usono. | Dec 23 01:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 23 01:03 |
| scientes | XRevan86, same with Mongol assymilation | Dec 23 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | * la termino | Dec 23 01:04 |
| MinceR | isn't Roman law much older than Justinian, though? | Dec 23 01:04 |
| scientes | MinceR, yeah but he codified it | Dec 23 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: By whom? %) | Dec 23 01:04 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Kievan_Rus%27 | Dec 23 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mongol invasion of Kievan Rus' - Wikipedia | Dec 23 01:05 | |
| scientes | oh wait the russias defeated the mongols in battle, so yeah IDK | Dec 23 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They are still around actually. | Dec 23 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | although partial assimilation did take place | Dec 23 01:06 |
| scientes | oh yeah the mongolia video described that there are mongolians in russia | Dec 23 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | IIRC, the Crimean tatars count | Dec 23 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | as those who didn't just come later | Dec 23 01:07 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpdGIPHPBwU hmm can't find it but i remember it being in this video | Dec 23 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Geography Now! MONGOLIA - YouTube | Dec 23 01:08 | |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars | Dec 23 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Crimean Tatars - Wikipedia | Dec 23 01:08 | |
| XRevan86 | Yep, they are | Dec 23 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | kind of :) | Dec 23 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | Even though they they fought Russians, they didn't take Crimea from Russians | Dec 23 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | and then Russians invaded them | Dec 23 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Mongolians, just like Vikings, kind of, still exist, obviously. | Dec 23 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The question is whether those who invaded Rus' did :) | Dec 23 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | assimilate | Dec 23 01:12 |
| scientes | holy shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7mgZG1bdQ | Dec 23 01:13 |
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| XRevan86 | though I guess the answer is yes, partially | Dec 23 01:13 |
| scientes | MinceR, ^ | Dec 23 01:13 |
| scientes | and in the summer, wtf? | Dec 23 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What a time to own a vehicle? | Dec 23 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I thought hail is more likely in the summer | Dec 23 01:15 |
| scientes | oh yeah | Dec 23 01:15 |
| scientes | cause it has to melt first | Dec 23 01:15 |
| scientes | i saw it in fall in San Francisco | Dec 23 01:15 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/5YYsilg.gifv | Dec 23 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 23 01:18 | |
| scientes | apparently Sebia is also in protest https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/a8pee3/third_saturday_of_protests_in_belgrade_serbia/ | Dec 23 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Third Saturday of protests in Belgrade, Serbia. More than 35 000 people on streets, 20 000 more than first week, 10 000 more then last. President said he won't listen to us even if there were 5mil on streets. Media is barely covering protests, and government propaganda is horrible. : europe | Dec 23 01:23 | |
| XRevan86 | > Media is barely covering protests, and government propaganda is horrible. | Dec 23 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is proud. | Dec 23 01:25 |
| scientes | https://i.redd.it/t8gnwkv7r4a11.jpg | Dec 23 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | and ruins the lawns | Dec 23 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | * ruin | Dec 23 01:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | AARP gives you a 15% discount on eyeglasses at Pearle Vision. Super. After they charge three times as much as Walmart. | Dec 23 02:07 |
| scientes | just use zenni | Dec 23 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might order a backup pair from Zenni and see how I like it. | Dec 23 02:08 |
| scientes | get two | Dec 23 02:08 |
| scientes | two $7 ones | Dec 23 02:08 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18091048 | Dec 23 02:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 23 02:09 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18091023 | Dec 23 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 23 03:26 | |
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| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iltNNgkTELQ | Dec 23 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-India TV Debate on Divorce in Islam Erupts into Violence - YouTube | Dec 23 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2018-December/031581.html | Dec 23 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Nouveau] [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 | Dec 23 06:58 | |
| scientes | thats a fuckload of fucks | Dec 23 06:59 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, oh, so Ukraine gave the nukes back to Russia in 1994 with the assurance that Russia would never challenge Ukraine's borders..... | Dec 23 07:57 |
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| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-postmodernism | Dec 23 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Post-postmodernism - Wikipedia | Dec 23 08:38 | |
| scientes | lol | Dec 23 08:38 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: are you OK with me installing https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86_64/virt-viewer ? | Dec 23 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pkgs.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux packages | Dec 23 11:05 | |
| kaniini | schestowitz: it wont be effective, as it requires libvirt | Dec 23 11:14 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: /etc/conf.d/qemu.techrights show have to enable VNC | Dec 23 11:15 |
| kaniini | s/have/how/ | Dec 23 11:16 |
| schestowitz | thanks, will look into it | Dec 23 11:18 |
| schestowitz | still learning the basics https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_Linux_package_management | Dec 23 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.alpinelinux.org | Alpine Linux package management - Alpine Linux | Dec 23 11:19 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/12/17/viktor-orban-trump-and-the-populist-battle-over-public-space/ | Dec 23 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org | Viktor Orban, Trump and the Populist Battle Over Public Space | Dec 23 11:38 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: quick question, vnc_listen="0.0.0.0" set to my home IP address? vnc_display set to 0, I've set a password and I try to connect on port 5900 to the remove host using my vnc client.. | Dec 23 11:56 |
| kaniini | no | Dec 23 12:02 |
| kaniini | it needs be 0.0.0.0 | Dec 23 12:03 |
| kaniini | connect to the hypervisor ip on 5900 | Dec 23 12:03 |
| schestowitz | aha | Dec 23 12:04 |
| schestowitz | got it, thank you, kaniini | Dec 23 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Sounds right %). | Dec 23 12:16 |
| schestowitz | OK, so with techrights it's this https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/probing-edd-message-at-boot-time-what-does-it-mean-750715/ | Dec 23 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | [SOLVED] Probing EDD message at boot time: what does it mean? | Dec 23 12:19 | |
| schestowitz | J can log in to tuxmachines OK now, from the CLI | Dec 23 12:19 |
| schestowitz | so it booted OK | Dec 23 12:19 |
| schestowitz | /root is full from nightly backups, sorted that out just now | Dec 23 12:23 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: tuxmachines boots OK, just not accessible over ssh/http on 199.19.78.20, httpd and mysqld already running OK, there's just no contact with the outside world | Dec 23 12:25 |
| kaniini | yes | Dec 23 12:40 |
| kaniini | needs to be configured | Dec 23 12:40 |
| kaniini | 199.19.78.20/29 gateway 199.19.78.17 | Dec 23 12:40 |
| kaniini | if it is centos 6, you could do it via /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 probably | Dec 23 12:40 |
| schestowitz | thanks, will look into it | Dec 23 12:41 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: I'm not sure how to access the logical volume 'off-line' so to speak, I just want to add "edd=off" to the first kernel line in techrights.org (as per https://serverfault.com/questions/708447/probing-edd-boot-messsvage-stays-for-ten-minutes-on-centos-6-6 ) - it's always the same issue when I boot, it hangs with just a message saying it's "probing EDD (edd=off to disable.. OK" | Dec 23 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | centos6 - probing EDD boot message stays for ten minutes on centos 6.6 - Server Fault | Dec 23 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | (I tired passing that option through the hypervisor when it starts the VM, but it doesn't support such an option | Dec 23 13:18 |
| *schestowitz changing configs for MAC address | Dec 23 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.ostechnix.com/solve-device-eth0-not-seem-present-delaying-initialization-error/ | Dec 23 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to solve “Device eth0 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization” error - OSTechNix | Dec 23 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | ok, I managed to get eth0 running | Dec 23 14:03 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: it says address already working, thank you thank you ! | Dec 23 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://199.19.78.20/ | Dec 23 14:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-199.19.78.20 | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Dec 23 14:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NotSoEasyGirl1/status/1076851314456494081 | Dec 23 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NotSoEasyGirl1: @schestowitz Oh hell, I don’t even wear jewelry anymore, like saying ‘look at what I have or look at me’. I’ll wear… https://t.co/vGCed0F21u | Dec 23 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Dec 23 14:56 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: I've just noticed | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 root root 253, 1 Nov 27 21:23 vg0-work | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | localhost:/dev/mapper# ls -la | grep techri | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 2 Dec 23 13:07 vg0-techrights.org | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 4 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org1 | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 5 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org2 | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 6 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org3 | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 7 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org4 | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 8 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org5 | Dec 23 15:09 |
| schestowitz | brw------- 1 qemu qemu 253, 9 Nov 27 22:14 vg0-techrights.org6 | Dec 23 15:10 |
| schestowitz | (tuxmachines has only one such entry, the above are spaced apart exactly 24 hours) | Dec 23 15:10 |
| kaniini | i'll fix that | Dec 23 15:11 |
| schestowitz | I've been test-driving tuxmachines on the new hypervisor, it seems to work perfectly | Dec 23 15:11 |
| kaniini | its harmless | Dec 23 15:11 |
| schestowitz | as did techrights before it stopped booting | Dec 23 15:11 |
| ---MinceR gives voice to mmu_man Firee schestowitz | Dec 23 15:28 | |
| kaniini | humm | Dec 23 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://access.redhat.com/solutions/47621 | Dec 23 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com | Why does installation halt at the "Probing EDD" message on the Fujitsu PRIMERGY TX120 S2? - Red Hat Customer Portal | Dec 23 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://access.redhat.com/solutions/47621 | Dec 23 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://serverfault.com/questions/708447/probing-edd-boot-messsvage-stays-for-ten-minutes-on-centos-6-6 | Dec 23 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | centos6 - probing EDD boot message stays for ten minutes on centos 6.6 - Server Fault | Dec 23 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/107492/probing-edd-edd-off-to-disable-ok/ | Dec 23 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ask.openstack.org | Probing EDD (edd off to disable) .... ok [closed] - Ask OpenStack: Q&A Site for OpenStack Users and Developers | Dec 23 15:36 | |
| schestowitz | I am guessing passing the argument to the kernel (edd parameter) might help, I just hope that when the site goes live it doesn't happen again without fallbacks, still not sure what happened as I only edited resolve.conf | Dec 23 15:37 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1809105 | Dec 23 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 23 16:06 | |
| MinceR | http://explosm.net/comics/1999/ | Dec 23 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Dec 23 16:24 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Does anyone know of an app that fits in well under GNOME and can display epub books? | Dec 23 17:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmm, I found an application called "Bookworm" on Flathub. | Dec 23 17:27 |
| MinceR | i don't know of any non-gnome apps that are shoddy enough to fit gnome well | Dec 23 17:27 |
| MinceR | at least those that can run on lendows | Dec 23 17:28 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/U3oE1AK.gifv | Dec 23 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 23 17:29 | |
| MinceR | maybe with wine you could find something that's broken and bloated enough :> | Dec 23 17:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48914071_324023681775778_3134264672157433856_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=d217bd2f9fb2ec3e7bfbe1e2ffe5a37f&oe=5C8D31FC | Dec 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I found this on Flathub. | Dec 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's called "Bookworm". | Dec 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The HIG is a little macOS-ish, but it works fine. | Dec 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not trying to do a million things at once, all of them poorly. | Dec 23 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the license is GPL v3. | Dec 23 17:37 |
| MinceR | well, gnome has been heavily macos-ish since version 2 | Dec 23 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | GNOME 3, really. | Dec 23 17:43 |
| MinceR | they copied the crApple HIG for gnome2 already | Dec 23 17:46 |
| MinceR | and it got the shuffled dialog buttons from it too | Dec 23 17:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: CAR scan | Dec 23 17:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: CAT scan | Dec 23 17:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: why use FB CDN? | Dec 23 17:47 |
| schestowitz | IIRC you were on mastodon/fediverse.. | Dec 23 17:47 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I just turned that into a web application with GNOME Web. | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I'm back. | Dec 23 17:54 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: or a copycat | Dec 23 17:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I keep my Facebook account because it's like trying to get away from a black hole. | Dec 23 17:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government is running perpetual background checks on me anyway because I live with John. | Dec 23 18:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I always get TSA Precheck because they deemed me "low risk". | Dec 23 18:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If there's anything that proves that the TSA is pointless, it's precheck. | Dec 23 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first time I went through, I was like "That's it?". | Dec 23 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You keep your shoes on, you don't go through a body scanner. Nothing comes out of your bags. | Dec 23 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like airport security was in 2000. | Dec 23 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | College Humor made fun of it. | Dec 23 18:03 |
| schestowitz | the rich want different rules | Dec 23 18:11 |
| schestowitz | and fast lanes | Dec 23 18:11 |
| schestowitz | in Berlin they actually let us keep shoes on last week, but the airport was utterly terrible | Dec 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: don't travel by air | Dec 23 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I promised to do this only once in 2 years | Dec 23 18:12 |
| ---MinceR gives voice to mmu_man | Dec 23 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | it's a rather disgusting experience, so let this 'industry' suffer | Dec 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | whether they let my shoes on seems random | Dec 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | s/let/& me keep/ | Dec 23 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There was this asian guy that breached security the other day. | Dec 23 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He ran through the exit lane shouting "SANK YOU!!!! SANK YOU!!!!" and the TSA agents lost track of him. | Dec 23 18:15 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/hCWsG17.jpg | Dec 23 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FBI had to get him off the plane. | Dec 23 18:15 |
| MinceR | so, whom did he sink? | Dec 23 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Keystone Kops, apparently. | Dec 23 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Dec 23 18:16 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 23 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: "Oh by day I important execcutive but at night I naughty boy!" | Dec 23 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's just no telling. I think my favorite part of The Man in the High Castle was when that antiques dealer said "I swear their brains are different.". | Dec 23 18:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 23 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | According to John, a bunch of Chinese men walked up and pretended not to speak any English and they were not cooperating with security procedures. | Dec 23 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he said, "Okay, your flight is canceled." and they all spoke English after that. | Dec 23 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a ploy. It helps them be difficult. They think you'll make exceptions just to get them to go away if you think they don't understand you. But, I could see anyone trying to pull that, honestly. | Dec 23 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I see people are still posting to try to find out if any browsers support Windows XP or Vista. | Dec 23 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ugh. | Dec 23 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Firefox and Chrome would be options again if they installed any GNU/Linux distribution. | Dec 23 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can't be more difficult to use GNU/Linux than it is to try to keep Windows XP going at this point. | Dec 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | finding a GNU/Linux distro has become definitely more difficult | Dec 23 18:26 |
| MinceR | especially if you don't want crap like libsystemd sitting around, waiting for a "security update" | Dec 23 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I switched my dbus over to dbus-broker for the hell of it. | Dec 23 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No immediately obvious changes. | Dec 23 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | According to the documentation, it's Linux-only, which I'm sure will drive the BSD people nuts. | Dec 23 18:30 |
| MinceR | provided the bsd people give a fuck about dbugs | Dec 23 18:37 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Samsung 860 QVO SSD Linux Benchmarks: 1TB SATA 3.0 SSD For $150 USD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118755 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba1368cf-7a31-4a74-b9b1-842e67b42c36] | Dec 23 18:38 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118756 [https://pleroma.site/objects/98f9dd71-3822-486c-bf61-7d930c9bffae] | Dec 23 18:39 | |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/wws0Gkz | Dec 23 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-fi / Dystopian / Cyberpunk Art Dump - Album on Imgur | Dec 23 18:45 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: upon closer look, maybe EDD works OK and passes and it's the next thing, unspecified, where it just hangs | Dec 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | is someone here good with qemu and can help with a VM that just stopped booting? | Dec 23 19:30 |
| kaniini | if we can change the grub config | Dec 23 19:31 |
| kaniini | then we could remove quiet boot | Dec 23 19:31 |
| kaniini | sorry i am a little busy. somebody copied large parts of pleroma's codebase and did not provide copyright attribution as required by AGPL | Dec 23 19:31 |
| schestowitz | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18297016/vir-install-virtual-machine-hang-on-probbing-edd | Dec 23 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | kvm - vir-install virtual machine hang on Probbing EDD - Stack Overflow | Dec 23 19:31 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: no worries, it's not as urgent as pleroma | Dec 23 19:32 |
| schestowitz | I am VEEERY relieved tuxmachines works OK now | Dec 23 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19301 | Dec 23 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 19301 – Scripts panel forgets content when docking/undocking | Dec 23 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Uh, no. | Dec 23 19:32 |
| schestowitz | techrights worked perfectly before, so I'm sure one way or another we can bring it back up, I can bring it up to date and update DNS myself | Dec 23 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193013 | Dec 23 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193013 – [GTK] Webkit does nothing when using "select all" text in a Facebook "Create Post" field. | Dec 23 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | That one | Dec 23 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193011 | Dec 23 19:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193011 – [GTK] Bad performance on Intel Iris 540 graphics with accelerated compositing enabled | Dec 23 19:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193001 | Dec 23 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193001 – [GTK] Chicago Public Library's BiblioCommons site unusable with accelerated compositing enabled on X11. | Dec 23 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192982 | Dec 23 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 192982 – [GTK] Garbled rendering on Youtube while scrolling under X11. | Dec 23 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've found another one that I'm submitting now. | Dec 23 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193014 | Dec 23 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.webkit.org | 193014 – [GTK] Webkit occasionally deletes all text from an input field when using "select all". | Dec 23 19:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good gravy. | Dec 23 19:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think I finally found something with more bugs than Firefox. | Dec 23 19:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: GNOME pops up a message. "Achievement Unlocked: Buggier than Bloatzilla Failfox.". | Dec 23 19:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 23 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just as I say that "Firefox has crashed. Unfortunately it did not leave a crash dump file." | Dec 23 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, because I have ptrace disabled, I suppose. | Dec 23 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptrace | Dec 23 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ptrace - Wikipedia | Dec 23 19:51 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: at least it's FOSS and not centralised | Dec 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | so better than mozilla firefox | Dec 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | help promote these things | Dec 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | as otherwise we end up with 'facebooks' of browsers | Dec 23 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Apple's Mac OS X also implements ptrace as a system call. Apple's version adds a special option PT_DENY_ATTACH - if a process invokes this option on itself, subsequent attempts to ptrace the process will fail. Apple uses this feature to limit the use of debuggers on programs that manipulate DRM-ed content, including iTunes." | Dec 23 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But of course they do. | Dec 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | centralised data-hoarding blobs | Dec 23 19:52 |
| schestowitz | I still use qupzilla btw | Dec 23 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What a nasty operating system. It also disables screenshots while you're playing a movie. | Dec 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | since you pointed me at it | Dec 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: drm in 'secure' channels | Dec 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | nobody should use osux | Dec 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | def. not jim zemlin | Dec 23 19:53 |
| schestowitz | but he made a working group for movie studios this year | Dec 23 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was reading a piracy forum the other day and they suggested avoiding Windows 10. | Dec 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some other guy asked why. | Dec 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And someone else chimed in that it's because it reports back everything about your computer and you to Microsoft, including programs you are using and presumably the full contents of your hard drive. | Dec 23 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's not just speculation. There arer "features" of Windows 10 that admit they do as much. "Windows Defender" says that by using it, you agree to send Microsoft samples of software that they haven't encountered before so they can decide if it's "malicious" or not. So, it says right there that it will lift files off your drive as it scans them and upload them to Microsoft. | Dec 23 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, Microsoft does not care if people know, and neither does the government. | Dec 23 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They love it when people hand them a slam dunk case by letting Windows 10 incriminate them for something, sure, but people knowing that they're being watched means that they will be too afraid to act in certain ways. For example, when the government asks ISPs to turn over data about everyone who accessed a site about an anti-Trump protest and it makes the news, it doesn't matter whether the government gets a court | Dec 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | order for the data (that they probably had anyway). | Dec 23 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The whole point of turning it into a media spectacle is to make people fear for their safety if they read certain websites. | Dec 23 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | In ST:TNG it's pretty annoying how exactly the same all humanoid extraterrestrials look like. | Dec 23 20:26 |
| XRevan86 | it's just humans with some bumps on their heads | Dec 23 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | and the bumps are very much alike… | Dec 23 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | Honestly, I don't know why they bother with bumps, they don't eliminate the obvious questions, just add more extra ones. | Dec 23 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LibreJS breaks the layout on the FSF's directory site. | Dec 23 20:50 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 5 ASCII Games on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118757 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8f7d7ea4-e92b-432d-b211-76e427aa4f77] | Dec 23 21:08 | |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek) There is a char introduced to attempt to explain that. Q and Trelane, Yes lets add insane gods creating universe in their image for fun. | Dec 23 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Q (Star Trek) - Wikipedia | Dec 23 21:30 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Oh, so there will be an explanation… | Dec 23 21:31 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: there is a explaination in the startrek books. | Dec 23 21:31 |
| XRevan86 | I do know about Q of course, after all, he was introduced in the second or third episode of the series. | Dec 23 21:31 |
| oiaohm | Q is renamed the Trelane was too much of a mouth ful. | Dec 23 21:32 |
| oiaohm | Basically a limited number of races created the complete star trek universe and they lacked massive creativity | Dec 23 21:33 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: think of each race as a sitcom set up by the Q race. | Dec 23 21:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: and then look at out tv sitcoms how like they look because lot of cases writers get lazy. | Dec 23 21:35 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Steam Play and Wine Latest http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118759 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0b0cab9a-5c1b-4ca0-a60f-fba260f91e07] | Dec 23 21:36 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: if you watch the Star trek animated series you will see that the chars were not meant to look very close to each other. Early startrek did not have enough budget. First start treks female com officer speech patterns are explains in the animated when you work out she is meant to be a cat women with tail and all. | Dec 23 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | Now I am lacking context to grok | Dec 23 21:40 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/5GlaEE6 | Dec 23 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you are bored at work... - Album on Imgur | Dec 23 21:42 | |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: Uhura from first star trek is officially now recorded as human. There was a eposide in the Animated where she was draw as a cat women and that turns out because in the original star-trek script that was the assigned race cut due to make-up and other costs. | Dec 23 21:47 |
| *XRevan86 has only seen one episode of ToS | Dec 23 21:48 | |
| *XRevan86 was not aware there is ST:TAS | Dec 23 21:49 | |
| oiaohm | Basically attempting to keep char style starting off with insanely low budget restricted varation in char looks at start. Now to keep continuity of chars having a low cost start does cause problems. | Dec 23 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | oh, I also saw the first ST movie, that counts as TOS I guess. | Dec 23 21:49 |
| oiaohm | and they attempt to explain it away latter in the story with Q. | Dec 23 21:50 |
| oiaohm | Really I am annoyed with the reboot of star trek as they had the chance with modern tech to go back and redo the original scripts with all the varation in races. | Dec 23 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Do you mean Discovery or the Abrams ST? | Dec 23 21:51 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: The Tale of Always-Latest KDE, Konsole Improvements and Compris Version 0.95 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118761 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6b46211-42ae-4d8d-a960-50289c2bbd73] | Dec 23 21:51 | |
| XRevan86 | or both? | Dec 23 21:51 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: I am refering to where they have Chris Pine as James T. Kirk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(film_series)#Reboot_(Kelvin_Timeline)_films there are 3 that are called reboot films so far. | Dec 23 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Star Trek (film series) - Wikipedia | Dec 23 21:54 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: basically where they are starting the story completely over. | Dec 23 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Those are Ambrams', yes | Dec 23 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | Abrams' | Dec 23 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | they are… pretty lame | Dec 23 21:55 |
| oiaohm | and they really did not take advantage of the reboot to fix the faults instead made more by adding more timeline bending. | Dec 23 21:56 |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville << I am looking forward to the next in this series. | Dec 23 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Orville - Wikipedia | Dec 23 22:01 | |
| XRevan86 | What I do like about ST:TNG a lot is how reasonable the crew and Picard are. I am tired of tropes in moral decision-making in films. | Dec 23 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | but there were a few "unfortunate deaths" just so they wouldn't have to deal with the morality of judging criminals. | Dec 23 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I am hoping it will cut the humour | Dec 23 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Seth MacFarlane is a comedy writer, and ironically that's the worst part I find in his series. | Dec 23 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe the jokes in The Orville are a subtle allusion on the jokes ST:TNG makes to show Data's failure to appreciate them | Dec 23 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | because I am reliably on Data's side %) | Dec 23 22:06 |
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| XRevan86 | That genuinely feels intentional, because in other cases ST:TNG doesn't fail to humour me | Dec 23 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | only when Data's around the humour suddenly drops to "and now we'll throw a pie into his face and call it the miracle of humanity" | Dec 23 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to find an ebook version of Isis Orb, #40 in the Xanth series. | Dec 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I can't find it without DRM, I might have to go to the library. | Dec 23 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: That's because Daemons Don't DRM. | Dec 23 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oddly enough, archive.org has Demon's Don't Dream in HTML format. | Dec 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not sure if that's legal or not, but who cares? | Dec 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of these novels are so old that the only place you're likely to find a copy is in a used book store somewhere. | Dec 23 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw several at The Armadillo's Pillow, but it wasn't anything close to a full set. | Dec 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And who wants #17, #21, and #26 in a series of over 40 books? | Dec 23 22:13 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86 I do agree Orville without the overly direct comedy would have been way better. But at least each one has a fairly well planned out story. | Dec 23 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Orville is a better Star Trek. | Dec 23 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The episodes of all of the Star Trek TV series so far, with the exception of Discovery, have been kind of dry, and with an emphasis on not offending people at the time, with occasional interruptions. | Dec 23 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I remember my dad grousing about "men wearing dresses" on TNG, and I was like "So what? Nobody's making you wear a dress.". | Dec 23 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there was the TOS episode where Kirk and Uhura kissed that was so scandalous (in certain parts of the US) at the time that it was pre-empted with a re-run in most of the south. | Dec 23 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/g2OwcRfhfEM?t=2282 | Dec 23 22:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 23 23:48 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I got WinPlay3 2.3-beta 5 runnin on Wine. | Dec 24 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *running | Dec 24 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can still play back a VBR MP3 encoded by LAME 3.100. | Dec 24 00:13 |
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| scientes | https://althealthworks.com/14200/pigs-reproductive-issues-gmo-cornyelena/ | Dec 24 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iowa Farmer Reveals What Happened to His Pigs after Being Fed GMO Corn (The Results Are NOT Pretty To Say The Least) | AltHealthWorks.com | Dec 24 02:42 | |
| scientes | so now the question is whether breeding pigs are fed gmos, or if it explicitely excluded from the breeding pigs diets | Dec 24 02:42 |
| scientes | cause that would be quite damning | Dec 24 02:42 |
| scientes | http://www.justlabelit.org/pigs-a-gmo-feeding-trial-exposes-problems/ | Dec 24 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justlabelit.org | Pigs: A GMO Feeding Trial Exposes Problems | Just Label It | Dec 24 02:43 | |
| scientes | so the precentage of work-aged individuals that are unemployeed in the US in 2016, was 49% | Dec 24 02:49 |
| scientes | that is the real unemployeement rate | Dec 24 02:49 |
| scientes | and that doesn't count those with crappy, useless service jobs | Dec 24 02:49 |
| scientes | GR horseweed is now wide-spread throughout much the US cropland. | Dec 24 02:58 |
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| scientes | damn the radiation of Fukishima killed some robots | Dec 24 03:04 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568421.png | Dec 24 03:11 |
| scientes | https://www.sciencealert.com/the-robots-sent-into-fukushima-have-died <<===dead robots because of Fukishima radiation | Dec 24 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sciencealert.com | The Robots Sent Into Fukushima Have 'Died' | Dec 24 03:11 | |
| scientes | FUCK | Dec 24 03:11 |
| MinceR | they'll need to build more resistant robots | Dec 24 03:12 |
| scientes | but just think how deadly it would be to humans | Dec 24 03:15 |
| MinceR | yeah | Dec 24 03:18 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: kind of right on build stronger robots. | Dec 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Have worked with mining using hydraulic driven machines. | Dec 24 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Those can get you back about 500 metres when using fiber optical for vision. | Dec 24 03:22 |
| oiaohm | There are no electronics, Using for mining areas of highly radioactive ores. | Dec 24 03:23 |
| scientes | oiaohm, but this thing had to swim in a radioactive goo | Dec 24 03:27 |
| oiaohm | Humans 100-200 Rad kills us. Silicon 5000 Rad start killing them over years instant kill 10000 rad. | Dec 24 03:28 |
| oiaohm | scientes: that is the problem. Most of the hydraulic remote mining equipment is design that its digging its own nice flat floored tunnel. | Dec 24 03:30 |
| oiaohm | Please note some of those remote hydraulic mining equipment is hybrid. So silicon based controller/robot gets X radition level then mines forwards with the hydraulic, | Dec 24 03:31 |
| oiaohm | And X radition level is above what will kill a human and the face is above what will kill a silicon based robot. | Dec 24 03:32 |
| oiaohm | scientes: basically that is what exists today. Taken something like that and making it work in Fukishima will be a hard up hill battle. | Dec 24 03:33 |
| oiaohm | Most if the mining hydraulic gear does not float. It is the true sinking stone. | Dec 24 03:34 |
| scientes | Fukishima is leaking radioactivity into the ocean | Dec 24 03:35 |
| scientes | lots of it | Dec 24 03:35 |
| scientes | radioactive waste has the potential to end life on this planet by making human too infertile | Dec 24 03:36 |
| scientes | the women have to keep those eggs viable until puberty | Dec 24 03:37 |
| oiaohm | Really no. | Dec 24 03:37 |
| scientes | http://wilsonweb.physics.harvard.edu/soundscience/Al-Azzawi.pdf | Dec 24 03:38 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Ranger in Northern Territory of Australia is where the horrible gear I was taking about being requried early on. It was leaking naturally more radation into the sea than Fukishima is. Yes it made a completely dead river. | Dec 24 03:38 |
| oiaohm | So locally people are going to have problems globally no. | Dec 24 03:39 |
| oiaohm | scientes: the really no is on the level of Fukishima leak to ocean. The ocean is able to deal with scary amount of radioactivity quite well. | Dec 24 03:41 |
| oiaohm | In fact levels above what humans can tollerate. | Dec 24 03:41 |
| oiaohm | scientes: wars without radioactive waste get the childen at the time another way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis Cleaning up the distroyed building without correct dust masks and the like that this can result in lethal exposure if radioactive waste rounds are using | Dec 24 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis ) | Dec 24 03:45 | |
| oiaohm | or Silicosis that is a slow painful death. | Dec 24 03:45 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yes i am aware | Dec 24 03:58 |
| scientes | radioactive silicosis | Dec 24 03:58 |
| oiaohm | scientes: even without radioactive silicosis can still be quickly fatal. | Dec 24 04:04 |
| oiaohm | Or at least fatal before being able to breed. | Dec 24 04:04 |
| oiaohm | You are seeing in video out of Syria where children are doing clean up. | Dec 24 04:05 |
| oiaohm | And that is with no form of protection not even a basic fabric dust mask. | Dec 24 04:05 |
| scientes | BREXIT, BREXIT, BREXIT | Dec 24 04:43 |
| scientes | there is so much propaganda for discarding the vote | Dec 24 04:43 |
| scientes | schestowitz, what is your view on Brexit? | Dec 24 04:43 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you know, in regards to censorship, Google is a big threat if there ISN"T censorship | Dec 24 05:30 |
| scientes | same for Facebook (and easier to block) | Dec 24 05:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Throw my neighbors into the reactor and see how long they live. | Dec 24 05:45 |
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| scientes | https://www.businessinsider.com/google-employee-lives-in-truck-in-parking-lot-2015-10 | Dec 24 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Google employee lives in a truck in the parking lot - Business Insider | Dec 24 06:39 | |
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| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-cqbjcVBqY | Dec 24 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mysterious Ooze Seeps from Chinese City Street - YouTube | Dec 24 08:30 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, 1000 sieverts over pacific ocean https://youtu.be/lC17UeFzzQE?t=661 | Dec 24 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fukushima radiation on international flights - YouTube | Dec 24 08:41 | |
| scientes | the government are lying to us | Dec 24 08:42 |
| scientes | nah that number seems wierd | Dec 24 08:44 |
| scientes | (and yes, I am aware of the massive amount of nuclear testing in the hawaiian atolls | Dec 24 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | [02:42] <scientes> https://althealthworks.com/14200/pigs-reproductive-issues-gmo-cornyelena/ | Dec 24 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Iowa Farmer Reveals What Happened to His Pigs after Being Fed GMO Corn (The Results Are NOT Pretty To Say The Least) | AltHealthWorks.com | Dec 24 09:31 | |
| schestowitz | [02:43] <scientes> http://www.justlabelit.org/pigs-a-gmo-feeding-trial-exposes-problems/ | Dec 24 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justlabelit.org | Pigs: A GMO Feeding Trial Exposes Problems | Just Label It | Dec 24 09:31 | |
| schestowitz | dedicated anti-GMO sites can be a little over-dramatic | Dec 24 09:31 |
| schestowitz | and help those who call the critics "irrational phobia" | Dec 24 09:31 |
| schestowitz | [03:15] <scientes> but just think how deadly it would be to humans | Dec 24 09:39 |
| schestowitz | Like that famous helicopter crash atop Chernobyl (wings/propellers 'dissolve | Dec 24 09:39 |
| schestowitz | [04:43] <scientes> schestowitz, what is your view on Brexit? | Dec 24 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Brexit is terrible | Dec 24 09:40 |
| schestowitz | the propaganda as you call it was the Brexiters | Dec 24 09:40 |
| schestowitz | mostly anti-EU and anti-Islam hate-mongering/fearmongering | Dec 24 09:40 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC17UeFzzQE&feature=youtu.be&t=661 did you watch the near the end of that video with a standard plate. | Dec 24 10:10 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is quite a bit around us quite decently radioactive and that was before Fukushima. | Dec 24 10:11 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: there is limited reason to be highly worried about Fukushima. Most people are not aware how much Mining of ranger in north of Australia reduced the pacific ocean radation load. Fukushima leakage will only bring the pacific back to 1/10 of the radiation load it use to be. | Dec 24 10:16 |
| oiaohm | At worst. | Dec 24 10:16 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, yeah i eat GMO foods, I think the main risk is the fact that it creates a cabal that has a monopoly over seed, which is not only a economic threat, but a national security one | Dec 24 11:12 |
| scientes | also, one bug could whipe out the whole crop, and storing grain isn't in fashion like it use to be | Dec 24 11:12 |
| scientes | Luke 'Ming' Flanagan (Irish MP) isn't anti-Islam | Dec 24 11:15 |
| scientes | but I will admit Farage is | Dec 24 11:15 |
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| XRevan86 | > you know, in regards to censorship, Google is a big threat if there ISN"T censorship | Dec 24 13:35 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Google hasn't been caught pushing anti-Putin agenda. | Dec 24 13:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsru.com%2Frussia%2F24dec2018%2Fpeskov.html | Dec 24 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Dec 24 13:57 | |
| XRevan86 | > At the Putin's Press Conference under the guise of journalists came slanderers and complainers, complains Peskov | Dec 24 13:58 |
| XRevan86 | amusing | Dec 24 13:59 |
| scientes | XRevan86, i'm just saying that long-run both of these companies are foreign spies | Dec 24 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | Both? Which one is the second one? | Dec 24 16:10 |
| scientes | Google and Facebook | Dec 24 16:10 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_agent | Dec 24 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Foreign agent - Wikipedia | Dec 24 16:11 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That makes sense, but here's the trick | Dec 24 16:12 |
| scientes | I think the bigger reality is that these companies are run by younger people, that arn't stupid to think Russia is an enemy | Dec 24 16:12 |
| scientes | they are playing a longer game | Dec 24 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The only thing United Russia wants from Google is so that it will block content at a whim | Dec 24 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | And so that the Russian citizens' data is stored on the territory of the RF. | Dec 24 16:14 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/P2ZbzWS.jpg | Dec 24 16:14 |
| scientes | my guess is that the AI technologies just arn't that advanced yet, and all that personal data really still is just useful for selling things | Dec 24 16:15 |
| scientes | but google is on most web-sites (analytics, ad-sense particularly), and so they can kinda watch everywhere you go | Dec 24 16:16 |
| scientes | for most users | Dec 24 16:16 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2018/12/24/96b94d105c22f15f.jpg | Dec 24 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Good thing we have uBlock | Dec 24 16:18 |
| scientes | yeah | Dec 24 16:18 |
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| schestowitz | [13:58] <XRevan86> > At the Putin's Press Conference under the guise of journalists came slanderers and complainers, complains Peskov | Dec 24 16:20 |
| schestowitz | journalism should be left to his government, e.g. RT and Sputnik :-) | Dec 24 16:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 24 16:22 |
| schestowitz | [16:09] <scientes> XRevan86, i'm just saying that long-run both of these companies are foreign spies | Dec 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Duterte now uses similar arguments | Dec 24 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: First they brag that they've made an open press conference, unlike the charade that was before, then "oh my, what happened, why all the questions not about the might and glory of the state?" | Dec 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Like Marcos, he's not known for enduring criticism | Dec 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: hahaha | Dec 24 16:23 |
| schestowitz | welcome to a real democracy, where pillars mostly watch one another | Dec 24 16:23 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568397.jpg | Dec 24 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | Pretty tiresome how far all these "powers that be" are from reality. | Dec 24 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | A complaint I've heard about this press conference is that when Putin gives a non-answer, a journalist couldn't try again | Dec 24 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | that there was no dialogue, only a question and a reply | Dec 24 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | and that was exploited to the death | Dec 24 16:47 |
| MinceR | fidesz members love non-answers | Dec 24 16:50 |
| MinceR | like when orban responded to every question with "merry christmas!" | Dec 24 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | Putin's non-answers weren't THAT non-answery :) | Dec 24 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This may be an academy record | Dec 24 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | Putin to Orban: https://youtu.be/dzttK-8vvoI | Dec 24 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spitfire - That's an academy record! - YouTube | Dec 24 16:56 | |
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| MinceR | :> | Dec 24 17:00 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568388.jpg | Dec 24 17:11 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <MinceR> fidesz members love non-answers | Dec 24 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Merry xmas! | Dec 24 17:14 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 24 17:16 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Alexandre Oliva 'Deblobs' Linux With GNU Linux-libre 4.20 and Guix Protects Against Back Doors With Reproducible Builds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118785 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f57fa4d-0cb0-4c1a-9ba6-9f44161fe211] | Dec 24 18:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118786 [https://pleroma.site/objects/94359666-6819-44ea-bf2f-89ce67310dc4] | Dec 24 18:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Darktable 2.6.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118787 [https://pleroma.site/objects/596ca987-4ff3-412d-8dc9-9445fa2e4b86] | Dec 24 18:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Best Gnome distro of 2018 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118788 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a1a27f99-fafd-47d8-8cde-e243d461c85e] | Dec 24 18:46 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LibreELEC (Leia) v8.95.1 BETA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118789 [https://pleroma.site/objects/029bbb8f-999f-496d-9699-7ddacec26d9a] | Dec 24 18:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Krita in 2018 and 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118790 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9391c26a-1aea-475b-8eb2-18ac35f6c8ae] | Dec 24 18:57 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FreeBSD's 2018 Report and DragonFlyBSD's 5.4.1 Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118791 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bf723d87-4aa6-44e3-867c-493c732cc06f] | Dec 24 19:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Improved AMD CPU Microcode Handling On Deck For Linux 4.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118792 [https://pleroma.site/objects/699cf3d5-067f-4d5a-a4fe-f3a37af08a39] | Dec 24 19:07 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Linux Mint 19.1 Videos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118793 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e797d002-a71d-4952-a38a-bc34e7bd952a] | Dec 24 19:21 | |
| scientes | https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/a93t2z/chinese_tourists_discovering_the_joys_of_protest/ | Dec 24 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Chinese tourists discovering the joys of protest in Paris : europe | Dec 24 19:23 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: GNOME Pomodoro, MuseScore, Cloud Sticky Notes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118794 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f9167c0b-6ef5-4a19-9c12-c434efd12831] | Dec 24 19:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Windows Killed by Browsers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118795 [https://pleroma.site/objects/29fcd7bf-8f0e-4095-b4da-c1129172d24d] | Dec 24 19:39 | |
| scientes | https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-mk-lauds-chinese-re-education-camps-for-muslims-as-tool-to-combat-terror-1.6766988 | Dec 24 19:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Israeli lawmaker lauds Chinese 're-education' camps for Muslim minority as tool to combat terror - Israel News - Haaretz.com | Dec 24 19:43 | |
| scientes | not really suprising, but the irony is deafening | Dec 24 19:43 |
| scientes | "Zionists for concentration camps" | Dec 24 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ha | Dec 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | looks like one really stupid congressperson | Dec 24 19:52 |
| schestowitz | not even from a centrist/left party | Dec 24 19:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The 5 Best Linux Distros Released in 2018 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118796 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4fc77b91-0944-4680-ae0d-b6dbec386270] | Dec 24 20:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118797 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9b0fa79-ce6d-4a9e-9768-d30aa9ccd13a] | Dec 24 20:05 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: history of china has them using education heavily on their local muslim populations. Induding absolutely forbidding their own schools. | Dec 24 20:07 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812219 | Dec 24 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 24 20:10 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China << Look at the map here. The look at the Australian collected data. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-01/satellite-images-expose-chinas-network-of-re-education-camps/10432924 | Dec 24 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Islam in China - Wikipedia | Dec 24 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Satellite images expose China's vast network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) | Dec 24 20:11 | |
| XRevan86 | > statically typed feels unwise | Dec 24 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | no! | Dec 24 20:11 |
| oiaohm | scientes: the most common people in China re-education camps is in fact Muslims. | Dec 24 20:11 |
| oiaohm | And that has been the case for over 2 thousand years. | Dec 24 20:12 |
| oiaohm | I would not call china re-education camps 100 percent successful its a never end tred mill that slows the problem down. | Dec 24 20:12 |
| oiaohm | How to solve the religion raditcal problem no one really has the solution. | Dec 24 20:14 |
| MinceR | how will they solve the communism problem though? | Dec 24 20:20 |
| ---ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR | Dec 24 20:21 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to Firee Researcher- | Dec 24 20:21 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, what is the problem? | Dec 24 20:21 |
| scientes | MinceR, thats what the CCP is wondering too https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/world/asia/china-maoists-xi-protests.html | Dec 24 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | China’s Leaders Confront an Unlikely Foe: Ardent Young Communists - The New York Times | Dec 24 20:21 | |
| MinceR | it also won't work on religious nutcases e.g. in the usa | Dec 24 20:21 |
| MinceR | scientes: they don't realize they're part of the problem themselves | Dec 24 20:21 |
| MinceR | but i think in the end, the human species is working on a solution to all of this | Dec 24 20:22 |
| *scientes thinks he is part of the problem too. | Dec 24 20:22 | |
| MinceR | global warming, overpopulation, religious wars | Dec 24 20:22 |
| MinceR | then maybe intelligent life that's more resistant to memetic pathogens will emerge on Earth eventually | Dec 24 20:23 |
| scientes | you think islam is a pathogen? | Dec 24 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe can wait in Mars till the dust settles | Dec 24 20:23 |
| schestowitz | a colony to last a month until Putler and Trumpler run out of nukes | Dec 24 20:24 |
| scientes | schestowitz, mars is the only planet populated by robots | Dec 24 20:24 |
| schestowitz | what about Earth? | Dec 24 20:24 |
| scientes | entirely | Dec 24 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | > how will they solve the communism problem though? | Dec 24 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Hunger_strikes_begin | Dec 24 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1989 Tiananmen Square protests - Wikipedia | Dec 24 20:25 | |
| MinceR | 24 212343 <+scientes> you think islam is a pathogen? | Dec 24 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | > The students sang The Internationale, the world socialist anthem, on their way to, and at, the square. | Dec 24 20:25 |
| MinceR | yes | Dec 24 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | This problem? %) | Dec 24 20:25 |
| MinceR | and so are all the other abrahamic religions | Dec 24 20:25 |
| MinceR | and so's communism | Dec 24 20:25 |
| MinceR | and so's fascism | Dec 24 20:25 |
| scientes | fascism isn't really a religion | Dec 24 20:26 |
| scientes | its just tyranny | Dec 24 20:26 |
| scientes | without any ideology at all | Dec 24 20:26 |
| scientes | well, it aspires to be a new rome | Dec 24 20:26 |
| scientes | so i guess it has that going for it | Dec 24 20:26 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/0SFeCoz.gifv | Dec 24 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | player two has entered the game | Dec 24 20:26 | |
| MinceR | well, i've seen plenty of fascist ideology | Dec 24 20:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "Fascism" is first and foremost the _ideology_ of Mussolini | Dec 24 20:27 |
| MinceR | national socialism is also related | Dec 24 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | Hitler's Nazist ideology is somewhere near, yes. | Dec 24 20:28 |
| MinceR | and of course the alt-reich | Dec 24 20:28 |
| scientes | I have a right hand and a left hand, does that make me schizophrenic? | Dec 24 20:29 |
| MinceR | i don't think it does | Dec 24 20:30 |
| scientes | how about supporting both democracy, and Plato's Republic? | Dec 24 20:30 |
| MinceR | i don't know Plato's Republic | Dec 24 20:31 |
| MinceR | democracy is a nice idea, i wish we had people it could be implemented with | Dec 24 20:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato) | Dec 24 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Republic (Plato) - Wikipedia | Dec 24 20:31 | |
| scientes | MinceR, that just shows that you don't know what democracy is | Dec 24 20:32 |
| scientes | XRevan86, isn't Plato's Republic an incredible book? | Dec 24 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I didn't read it, only know the basic ideas from lectures | Dec 24 20:33 |
| scientes | it isn't long | Dec 24 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | Still seems like a waste of time | Dec 24 20:33 |
| scientes | I got lucky and found a old 1950s translation too, before the crazies came in | Dec 24 20:33 |
| scientes | XRevan86, it has the ideas behind *The Matrix* | Dec 24 20:34 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Introduction to Go, Python, Kotlin, #Django and #GeoDjango http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118798 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e8f0efd-6953-4615-aa36-a4ba0c05a252] | Dec 24 20:34 | |
| scientes | and a number of other things | Dec 24 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | The Matrix isn't that great though %) | Dec 24 20:34 |
| *XRevan86 hides | Dec 24 20:34 | |
| MinceR | scientes: oh, i didn't know "democracy" was having a few million people deciding they didn't want "democracy" and implementing dictatorship instead | Dec 24 20:34 |
| scientes | MinceR, oh ok, we are on the same page | Dec 24 20:35 |
| <--Researcher- has quit (K-Lined) | Dec 24 20:39 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, seriously, I recommend it | Dec 24 20:39 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118799 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dceb283b-2239-45f2-ada6-339b23561c28] | Dec 24 20:40 | |
| scientes | It doesn't insult your intelligence | Dec 24 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | The good state is the one that successfully secures the true interests of the population majority. | Dec 24 20:42 |
| scientes | Also, Aristophanes is quite funny https://youtu.be/Q-mkVSasZIM?t=275 | Dec 24 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Persians & Greeks: Crash Course World History #5 - YouTube | Dec 24 20:42 | |
| MinceR | that can be tricky | Dec 24 20:42 |
| scientes | yeah, Republic is a bit more nuanced than that | Dec 24 20:42 |
| MinceR | after all, killing and taking everything from a minority and dividing it among the majority is in the interest of the majority | Dec 24 20:42 |
| scientes | maybe | Dec 24 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | I am yet to see an implementation of an aristocracy that delivers that better than the better democracies do. | Dec 24 20:43 |
| scientes | its not arguing for oligarchy or monarchy | Dec 24 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I wonder if the USSR's design can count as an "aristocracy" in that sense. | Dec 24 20:43 |
| MinceR | reminds me of the chinese "communist princess" | Dec 24 20:44 |
| scientes | the judge of who is "best" is always a matter of who decides | Dec 24 20:44 |
| scientes | and Plato isn't hiding that | Dec 24 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | The general secretary of the party, who else | Dec 24 20:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 24 20:45 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMgo5yqCtHE | Dec 24 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spoiled Chinese Girl Says Her Daddy Will Kill You - YouTube | Dec 24 20:45 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Same things happen in Russia too | Dec 24 20:47 |
| XRevan86 | Do such instances occur in the US? | Dec 24 20:47 |
| XRevan86 | > Rich 2nd generation | Dec 24 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | jeunesse dorée | Dec 24 20:48 |
| scientes | probably....the puritian influences are strong, and I think they are more ashamed and cliquish | Dec 24 20:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 24 20:50 |
| MinceR | i guess this is Red China's new idea of population control | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | MinceR, what? | Dec 24 20:51 |
| MinceR | "just run over some kids, it will be fine" | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | that is kinda silly | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | it isn't many people | Dec 24 20:51 |
| MinceR | maybe it's in beta | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | MinceR, what about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4xQfGQCi9U | Dec 24 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China's AIDS Villages | China Uncensored - YouTube | Dec 24 20:51 | |
| MinceR | maybe they need to have more bmws shipped in | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | MinceR, they drive like maniacs there | Dec 24 20:51 |
| scientes | XRevan86, seriously, Aristophanes made fun of aristocrats quite well https://youtu.be/Q-mkVSasZIM?t=251 | Dec 24 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Persians & Greeks: Crash Course World History #5 - YouTube | Dec 24 20:54 | |
| scientes | "under every stone lurks a politician. money the most excellent of gods" | Dec 24 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR Asian people are terrible drivers. | Dec 24 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a family guy clip of that. | Dec 24 20:55 |
| scientes | its actually just new drivers are bad drivers DaemonFC[m] | Dec 24 20:55 |
| MinceR | wow @ aids villages | Dec 24 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE!" | Dec 24 20:55 |
| XRevan86 | Finally | Dec 24 20:55 |
| XRevan86 | proof that Russians are Asians | Dec 24 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | crosses three lanes without signaling causing a pile up | Dec 24 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86 I noticed that everyone in Russia has dash cams for some reason. | Dec 24 20:56 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Not everyone, but they are common. | Dec 24 20:56 |
| scientes | If you take into account the time spent making money to pay for the car, walking is faster. | Dec 24 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or maybe it just seems that way? | Dec 24 20:56 |
| scientes | cars only serve as a status symbol and a slave-creation device | Dec 24 20:57 |
| MinceR | how do you create slaves with a car? | Dec 24 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/12/24/is-the-apple-watch-causing-a-run-on-emergency-room.aspx | Dec 24 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Apple Watch Causing a Run on Emergency Rooms? -- The Motley Fool | Dec 24 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | People with Apple watches are running to the ER because the sensor tells them their heartbeat is irregular. | Dec 24 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could be a lot of things, including a sensor error, a bug in the software, not wearing the watch properly, throwing off the reading. | Dec 24 20:59 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | or it could be the usual crApple quality | Dec 24 21:00 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPAHu_zYDw | Dec 24 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keynote: Six Years Later, or Hey, did you ever get the source code to that thing in your heart? - YouTube | Dec 24 21:00 | |
| MinceR | You're Holding It Wrong™ | Dec 24 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, let's go to the ER and get a $16,000 bill over nothing because Apple Watch diagnosed an irregular heartbeat. | Dec 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | eh, they can afford it | Dec 24 21:00 |
| MinceR | they can afford spending on some of the shoddiest and most overpriced watches available, they can afford to go to the ER for nothing | Dec 24 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR It would be more appropriate to go to the Urgent Care and have a doctor there look at you. | Dec 24 21:01 |
| MinceR | as long as it costs more | Dec 24 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That way, the bill would be $200 if it turned out to be a false alarm. | Dec 24 21:02 |
| MinceR | pft, that's not nearly expensive enough for a crApple user | Dec 24 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll bet ER doctors are loving all of the hypochondriacs that Apple has created. | Dec 24 21:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.niemanlab.org/2018/12/towards-a-rethinking-of-journalism-on-social-media/ | Dec 24 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.niemanlab.org | Towards a rethinking of journalism on social media » Nieman Journalism Lab | Dec 24 21:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Danny Vena owns shares of Apple. The Motley Fool owns shares of and recommends Apple. | Dec 24 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lol | Dec 24 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, even as their stock has fallen 40% in 2 months? | Dec 24 21:07 |
| MinceR | cognitive dissonance | Dec 24 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fake value is finally being shaken out of the system. | Dec 24 21:07 |
| scientes | there is no law in the US | Dec 24 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR Yeah, I expect things will get worse. | Dec 24 21:07 |
| scientes | anything that doesn't benifit the state is just relegated to arbitration | Dec 24 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Full blown recession declared next year. | Dec 24 21:07 |
| scientes | including contract law, the underpinning of legal systems | Dec 24 21:08 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121839 | Dec 24 21:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 24 21:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | scientes Yeah, basically every legal contract or job opening now has a binding arbitration agreement. | Dec 24 21:08 |
| scientes | which means there is no rule of law | Dec 24 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you want to work, you have to agree never to sue your employer for anything. | Dec 24 21:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ? | Dec 24 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | scientes It's worse in some states than others. | Dec 24 21:09 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], no, it is equally worse in all states | Dec 24 21:09 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: ? ? | Dec 24 21:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: What is the joke? | Dec 24 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Illinois government banned the practice of noncompete clauses in jobs that pay close to minimum wage. | Dec 24 21:09 |
| scientes | which shouldn't really be called states at all | Dec 24 21:09 |
| scientes | they are provinces | Dec 24 21:10 |
| scientes | provinces with the ability to tax | Dec 24 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jimmy Johns had a thing that said by taking a job at their sandwich shop, you wouldn't work for another restaurant within 3 miles for two years after your employment ended with them for any reason. | Dec 24 21:10 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: Joe King ~ joking | Dec 24 21:11 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], they only lost, because the courts didn't feel like enforcing it | Dec 24 21:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: i c | Dec 24 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The clause is normally found in executive contracts so they don't take trade secrets with them to a competitor. | Dec 24 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In this case, Jimmy Johns was using it to try to keep wages down. | Dec 24 21:11 |
| scientes | yeah but it is unenforcable | Dec 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I couldn't find any cases where they actually tried to enforce it though. | Dec 24 21:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: My "inner voice" isn't very good at detecting homophone puns | Dec 24 21:12 |
| scientes | how about homophobe puns? hehe | Dec 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Walmart has the same thing, but it only applies while you are working at Walmart. | Dec 24 21:12 |
| scientes | *homophobe buns | Dec 24 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I was at Walmart, the manager was comp shopping Family Dollar and found someone who was working a second job there. | Dec 24 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fired her from Walmart on the spot. | Dec 24 21:13 |
| scientes | what is wrong with that | Dec 24 21:13 |
| scientes | she should sue for wrongful termination | Dec 24 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No concern at all that she needed the job because Walmart pays dick and she had a family to take care of. | Dec 24 21:13 |
| scientes | or rather, she should picket the wal-mart until they haul her away | Dec 24 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | scientes Things might have changed, but I doubt it. When I was there, if an employee asked for a raise, you were to tell them where the welfare office was. | Dec 24 21:14 |
| scientes | and what about the manager shopping at Family Dollar, isn't that anti-loyal too | Dec 24 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comp shopping is required. | Dec 24 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You take a device and scan things and put in the price and then the computer at Walmart lowers the prices and prints out new shelf labels. | Dec 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | 24 221244 <+scientes> how about homophobe puns? hehe | Dec 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/oots/images/6/62/OOTS1043.png/revision/latest?cb=20160830193039 | Dec 24 21:15 |
| scientes | homophobe buns | Dec 24 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was at Walmart so long ago that the terminals said SCO Unixware when they were booting up. | Dec 24 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The whole thing was green screen and so on. Made requesting vacation days a nightmare. They always got denied for some reason anyway though. | Dec 24 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had 2 months of vacation time they had to pay out when I left because it kept getting denied and accumulating. | Dec 24 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They didn't let me take a single day off in over 2.5 years. | Dec 24 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I left, I told the new job I needed to turn in my notice and then just left Walmart. | Dec 24 21:20 |
| scientes | US violating soverignity of every nation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act | Dec 24 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act - Wikipedia | Dec 24 21:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Took two weeks of me time and went fishing and played video games. | Dec 24 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like FATCA. | Dec 24 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Makes it harder for rich people to hide all their money and make everyone else pay their taxes for them. | Dec 24 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If only slightly. | Dec 24 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans have tried repealing it. | Dec 24 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason I went to Walmart for eyeglasses is that everyone else in Chicago wants like $700 a pair. | Dec 24 21:26 |
| scientes | again, zenni | Dec 24 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd have to be insane to go to Pearle Vision, Lenscrafters, etc. | Dec 24 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like flat out nuts. | Dec 24 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed Pearle has a 15% AARP discount, after they charge three times as much as Walmart. | Dec 24 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, read the reviews of Pearle. | Dec 24 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I paid $1,400 for two pairs of glasses and then they made them wrong and wouldn't give my money back!" | Dec 24 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Stuff like that. | Dec 24 21:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: my last eyeglasses are frames I got from china for under 20AUD with 120 dollars worth of lens in them. | Dec 24 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In some things the economics of the future are better. | Dec 24 21:29 |
| oiaohm | and that is not a crap brand either. | Dec 24 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jamie Zawinski said DNA Lounge paid $538 for each 15" LCD monitor for their internet kiosks in 2001. | Dec 24 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: eyeglasses edging? | Dec 24 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | frames | Dec 24 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now you can get a fairly decent entire laptop for that with a pretty nice screen. | Dec 24 21:30 |
| scientes | how do i go about buying a rural farm in latin or south america? | Dec 24 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Errr $583. | Dec 24 21:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: 20 dollars for a true titatium glasses frame. | Dec 24 21:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't you mean agricultural collective in a country with hyperinflation and empty shelves where they're eating zoo animals? | Dec 24 21:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My frame coat $77. | Dec 24 21:31 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], despite what you think there are many countries down there | Dec 24 21:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The lenses were $86.50 apiece. | Dec 24 21:31 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: my lenses are have lots of coating on them I liven in Australia I do outdoor work. So I need UV, hardered and water replelling. | Dec 24 21:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Memory-Titanium-Flexible-Full-flex-Large-Size-Aviator-Optical-Eyeglass-Frame-For-sunglasses-Spectacles-Eyewear-Rx/32839132733.html << This is the frame I wear. | Dec 24 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Memory Titanium Flexible Full flex Large Size Aviator Optical Eyeglass Frame For sunglasses Spectacles Eyewear Rx-in Eyewear Frames from Men's Clothing & Accessories on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group | Dec 24 21:36 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: My frame cost is fairly much 20 AUD or less from china. That same frame bought from a shop in Australia puts me back horriblely 99 dollars. And I mean exactly the same frame brand and design. | Dec 24 21:39 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: if that was 77 USD you might have been able to get the same frame cheeper direct from china. At this lower cost I can have a spare frame or two sitting waiting to be used. | Dec 24 21:40 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121832 | Dec 24 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 24 21:42 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121737 | Dec 24 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 24 22:02 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not Buffy canon though | Dec 24 22:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 24 22:09 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121723 | Dec 24 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 24 22:24 | |
| XRevan86 | https://librefox.org/ | Dec 24 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - intika/Librefox: Librefox, patching Firefox for an enforced privacy and security | Dec 24 22:32 | |
| XRevan86 | I've seen some people move to Chromium because of the Ungoogled Chromium project | Dec 24 22:33 |
| XRevan86 | finally there's an analogue for Firefox | Dec 24 22:33 |
| MinceR | did they patch alsa support back in? | Dec 24 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: that is unknown | Dec 24 22:38 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/G2oqc4g.jpg | Dec 24 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The quality of the WSJ's reporting is garbagge. | Dec 24 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *garbage | Dec 24 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who pays $20 a month to read this? | Dec 24 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the last 8 hours, they've gone through all five stages of grief over the stock market. | Dec 24 22:55 |
| scientes | https://www.reddit.com/r/ShittyAskHawaii/comments/2pvp8t/how_do_i_ask_an_oriental_person_where_she_is_from/ | Dec 24 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | how do I ask an Oriental person where she is from? : ShittyAskHawaii | Dec 24 23:12 | |
| *XRevan86 reads the title | Dec 24 23:17 | |
| XRevan86 | "Where are you from?" | Dec 24 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | or more detailed: "Where from Asia is your family from?" | Dec 24 23:18 |
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| scientes | The Food Safety Modernization Act in the US is the most fascist thing the country has ever done | Dec 24 23:25 |
| scientes | it gives the Federal government basically the ability to shut down any farmer at any time for any reason | Dec 24 23:25 |
| scientes | it also allows the feds to tresspass on any farm | Dec 24 23:27 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568385.jpg | Dec 24 23:32 |
| scientes | it can be interpreted to give the federal government authority over pickling fermenting, and baking | Dec 24 23:33 |
| scientes | this law is fascist | Dec 24 23:34 |
| scientes | they are just going to use it to sieze assets | Dec 24 23:34 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The pun is so obvious I've found the sweater by DDG'ing it | Dec 24 23:35 |
| XRevan86 | https://shinesty.com/products/santapede-christmas-sweater | Dec 24 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shinesty.com | Men's Christmas Sweater | The Human Santapede | Dec 24 23:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | Apparently there's also a novel under the same name… | Dec 24 23:37 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweeted-picture-himself-ready-043837555.html | Dec 25 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Trump tweeted a picture of himself signing a 'bill' that appears to be a blank sheet of paper, and the internet is having a field day | Dec 25 00:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Other | Dec 25 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | users pointed out that the number of bills on the desk didn't match the | Dec 25 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | number of laws passed by the president that day which, according to govtrack.us, was two. No more bills have been signed since December 21, date of the tweet." | Dec 25 00:31 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568359.jpg | Dec 25 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's nice to see that Trump can pose with a stack of blank papers posing as bills (that Congress hasn't been passing) in the middle of a crisis. | Dec 25 00:52 |
| MinceR | posing is a core competence for him | Dec 25 00:53 |
| MinceR | as is talking tough and big | Dec 25 00:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118800 [https://pleroma.site/objects/00a7a9df-7286-4b7f-b70f-e76ff2f0cb3f] | Dec 25 00:58 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Small victories matter: the year in free software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118801 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a6f30dbb-96d7-4aeb-8de2-d64e71572b20] | Dec 25 01:00 | |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/caylenb/status/1075583545446301696 | Dec 25 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@caylenb: it's my birthday, but more importantly today marks the 10 year anniversary of that time when I was working at a dat… https://t.co/X6IO111GuV | Dec 25 01:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@caylenb: it's my birthday, but more importantly today marks the 10 year anniversary of that time when I was working at a dat… https://t.co/X6IO111GuV | Dec 25 01:22 | |
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| scientes | is the term caucasian basically a nazi term? | Dec 25 01:23 |
| scientes | cause I didn't come from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Mountains#/media/File:Caucasus_topographic_map-en.svg | Dec 25 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasus Mountains - Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:24 | |
| scientes | oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race | Dec 25 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Caucasian race - Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:24 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Why would it be? | Dec 25 01:24 |
| XRevan86 | I prefer Europid though | Dec 25 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | mostly because I have contact with *actual* Caucasians | Dec 25 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | fun fact: Caucasians in Russia are sometimes referred to as "blacks" | Dec 25 01:25 |
| scientes | it is more like this https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/ | Dec 25 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-genographic.nationalgeographic.com | Map of Human Migration | Dec 25 01:25 | |
| scientes | lol | Dec 25 01:25 |
| scientes | because they look a little turkish? | Dec 25 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | very black hair, darker skin than of an average Russian | Dec 25 01:27 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly%E2%80%93polar_bear_hybrid | Dec 25 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Grizzly–polar bear hybrid - Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:27 | |
| scientes | guess there arn't many sub-saharan africans in russia :/ | Dec 25 01:27 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568255.jpg | Dec 25 01:27 |
| scientes | MinceR, that is a water-bear which is also hot, cold, and radiation resistant | Dec 25 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: There are some, but not many, yeah | Dec 25 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | mostly students | Dec 25 01:28 |
| scientes | I believe the US and Brazil have the most outside of africa | Dec 25 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | On in big cities of course | Dec 25 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | * Only in | Dec 25 01:29 |
| MinceR | scientes: i know | Dec 25 01:29 |
| scientes | what about east asians in russia? | Dec 25 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | * Only in both big cities | Dec 25 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: um | Dec 25 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: A lot. | Dec 25 01:30 |
| scientes | non-russian east asians lol | Dec 25 01:30 |
| scientes | and the intuit are differn't | Dec 25 01:30 |
| scientes | damn what would the term be, cause of course many may be citizens of Russia | Dec 25 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Oh, then dunno, probably next to nothing | Dec 25 01:30 |
| scientes | there was a russian settlement that was on the wrong side of the russia-china border and now speaks chinese | Dec 25 01:31 |
| scientes | and is counted as a ethnic minority in china | Dec 25 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Do Kazakhs count? | Dec 25 01:31 |
| scientes | thats pretty distinct in appearance | Dec 25 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | Kazakhstan is a separate county, albeit very culturally and economically close to Russia. | Dec 25 01:32 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin_Russians | Dec 25 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Harbin Russians - Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:32 | |
| scientes | also Chinese Turkistan, which the Han Chinese are now in the process of massacring | Dec 25 01:33 |
| scientes | I now a Tajikistan woman | Dec 25 01:33 |
| scientes | know | Dec 25 01:33 |
| scientes | she knows Russian | Dec 25 01:33 |
| MinceR | Inuit, not intuit | Dec 25 01:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Seems like the settlement is extinct | Dec 25 01:34 |
| scientes | XRevan86, these guys visited it recently, and it is depopulated a bit (and Russia offered them all citizenship and money recently) but there was clearly still a presence https://vimeo.com/ondemand/conqueringnorthernchina | Dec 25 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Conquering Northern China Online | Vimeo On Demand on Vimeo | Dec 25 01:35 | |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo_Pie | Dec 25 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eskimo Pie - Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:35 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I'm reading the Russian Wikipedia article, and it says that the original population almost all left, and the current population mostly consists of immigrants from 1990s | Dec 25 01:36 |
| XRevan86 | from Russia | Dec 25 01:36 |
| scientes | well that documentary where they actually visited contradicts everything in that article | Dec 25 01:36 |
| XRevan86 | > she knows Russian | Dec 25 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | duh? :) | Dec 25 01:37 |
| scientes | there were ethnic fat russian women who knew only mandarin | Dec 25 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | Is that an ethnicity? %) | Dec 25 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | Great Russia, Little Russia, White Russia, … Fat Russia | Dec 25 01:38 |
| scientes | drinking home-made vodka | Dec 25 01:38 |
| scientes | well i just wanted to say that despite not knowing the language, she preserved much russian culture | Dec 25 01:39 |
| *XRevan86 found this: https://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1601/bf/898df33afdfe.jpg | Dec 25 01:40 | |
| XRevan86 | by looking for "Русский Харбин" on DDG | Dec 25 01:40 |
| XRevan86 | "Long live the anti-communist agreement between Nippon and Germany, the fight against communism is a commont goal, all to the fight with the world's evil – with communism" | Dec 25 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | if that is from Harbin… | Dec 25 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | also interesting how it write "Nippon", also without any inflection | Dec 25 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | * writes | Dec 25 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | > in Xinjing | Dec 25 01:43 |
| XRevan86 | > Russian advertisements in Harbin | Dec 25 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | In the English Wikipedia | Dec 25 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | I cannot help but notice the 1918+ orthography | Dec 25 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | I guess they've picked it up as well | Dec 25 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | Same in "Russian stores in Harbin" | Dec 25 01:49 |
| scientes | English would really benifit from a new orthography | Dec 25 01:52 |
| scientes | which this russian-american did https://unspell.blogspot.com/p/home.html | Dec 25 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unspell.blogspot.com | Project Unspell: Getting Started --- KEthN stArteT | Dec 25 01:52 | |
| scientes | but has been previously attempted by the Mormon church, and also Bertrand Russel | Dec 25 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | It's a hard feat, because phonetic respelling will fail miserably. | Dec 25 01:53 |
| scientes | why? | Dec 25 01:54 |
| scientes | its a whole new orthography, so it doesn't require spelling reform | Dec 25 01:54 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: English phonology is… diverse | Dec 25 01:54 |
| MinceR | there were many other attempts | Dec 25 01:54 |
| MinceR | including one by George Bernard Shaw | Dec 25 01:54 |
| scientes | oh i got Shaw and Russel confused | Dec 25 01:54 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, I don't quite get what this unspell is | Dec 25 01:55 |
| scientes | its an alternate orthography for English | Dec 25 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But I suspect that respelling is a component, even if in a different kind of alphabet | Dec 25 01:56 |
| scientes | so that, for example, verbs are *correctly* indicated in the orthography | Dec 25 01:56 |
| scientes | *vowels | Dec 25 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | "data" | Dec 25 01:57 |
| scientes | im getting all sorts of stuff switched up today | Dec 25 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | okay, what vowels does this word have? | Dec 25 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | "privacy" – or this one | Dec 25 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | "my" – or this one | Dec 25 01:58 |
| MinceR | the pronunciation of "data" varies | Dec 25 01:59 |
| scientes | yes it does | Dec 25 01:59 |
| MinceR | which makes spelling by pronunciation somewhat futile | Dec 25 02:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: To make a simple orthography, you'd have to create one true way of pronunciation, like Ukrainian did. | Dec 25 02:00 |
| scientes | yeah, but its still a nominally phonetic language | Dec 25 02:00 |
| scientes | yeah but I think that would be fine | Dec 25 02:00 |
| scientes | it would mean that you could learn new words from books without sounding wierd the first time you used them, or there even developing divergant differn't ways of pronouncing things (usually around which vowels are used) | Dec 25 02:01 |
| scientes | *which vowels are spoken | Dec 25 02:01 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I'm pretty sure the only nation that will even consider the new shiny is the one with the closest phonology to the True Way. | Dec 25 02:01 |
| scientes | yeah but it is an orthography | Dec 25 02:01 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568206.jpg | Dec 25 02:01 |
| scientes | so you don't have to do it all right | Dec 25 02:02 |
| scientes | there can be differn't True Ways | Dec 25 02:02 |
| scientes | hell he even has a British and American english version | Dec 25 02:02 |
| scientes | and ran into the issue of THE being pronounced two differn't ways | Dec 25 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: As a Russian I can tell that orthography does influence pronunciation and vice-versa | Dec 25 02:02 |
| scientes | especially when used at the end of a story | Dec 25 02:02 |
| scientes | of course, and in chinese the people in shenzhen call electronics components totally differn't (simpler) names than the universities do | Dec 25 02:03 |
| scientes | partially because they don't have a phonetic language | Dec 25 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | In English I instinctively go with the furthest from spelling version. | Dec 25 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | because that one is usually how people actually talk | Dec 25 02:04 |
| scientes | lol | Dec 25 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | no wonder pronology of English is so diverse :) | Dec 25 02:05 |
| MinceR | pr0nology | Dec 25 02:06 |
| scientes | pronouce-ology | Dec 25 02:06 |
| scientes | pronounce-ology | Dec 25 02:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: perfection | Dec 25 02:06 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 25 02:06 |
| XRevan86 | Who can explain why "pronounce" but "pronunciation"? | Dec 25 02:07 |
| *XRevan86 found out | Dec 25 02:08 | |
| scientes | mice, brethren | Dec 25 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | Because these words are… unrelated :) | Dec 25 02:09 |
| MinceR | i can't | Dec 25 02:09 |
| MinceR | unrelated? | Dec 25 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | pronunciation: from Latin pronuntiatio, noun of action from perfect passive participle pronuntiatus, from verb pronuntiare (“proclaim”), from pro- (“for”) + nuntiare (“announce”). | Dec 25 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | -nun- from nuntiare | Dec 25 02:09 |
| scientes | cacti children confetti (data is plural of datum) dice elves Foci feet-foot geese-goose | Dec 25 02:10 |
| scientes | man-men | Dec 25 02:10 |
| MinceR | scientes: ghoti | Dec 25 02:10 |
| scientes | oxen | Dec 25 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | pronounce: from Latin prōnūntiō, itself from prō- (“forth, out, in public”) + nūntiō (“I announce”) from nūntius (“messenger”). | Dec 25 02:10 |
| scientes | polyhedra | Dec 25 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | ah, no, related | Dec 25 02:10 |
| MinceR | (pronounced like "fish") | Dec 25 02:11 |
| scientes | woman-women is interesting | Dec 25 02:11 |
| scientes | because the pronounciation is funny | Dec 25 02:11 |
| scientes | hence the internet just says fuck it and writes "wimmenz" | Dec 25 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | I give up, why is pronounce different from pronunciation | Dec 25 02:13 |
| XRevan86 | unless… | Dec 25 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Wiktionary say that "pronounce" comes from Old French, and "pronunciation" from Middle French | Dec 25 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | maybe it's the time period that is key, and the *French* pronunciation | Dec 25 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | And I know that in French the letter "u" has changed its pronunciation some time ago, so they made up a digraph "ou" to state the older pronunciation | Dec 25 02:15 |
| scientes | XRevan86, and there already is a True Way for phenology of English | Dec 25 02:15 |
| XRevan86 | So my guess is that "pronounce" is a later loan than "pronunciation" | Dec 25 02:16 |
| scientes | used by the mass media (look how Miley Cyrus dropped her southern accent when she got a recording contract) | Dec 25 02:17 |
| scientes | but the internet is kinda breaking that effort | Dec 25 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You're thinking of the US, lad | Dec 25 02:17 |
| scientes | ok then there are 3 True ways, US, UK, and Indian | Dec 25 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The contemporary Doctor Who has taught me that English doesn't have to be intelligible at all. | Dec 25 02:18 |
| scientes | although Indian is rarely offered by speech systhesis programs | Dec 25 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | BBC pushes accent diversity | Dec 25 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | diversity, yay | Dec 25 02:18 |
| scientes | yeah the stuff in Briton and Ireland can be quite diverse | Dec 25 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | Thank Queen for subtitles. | Dec 25 02:19 |
| scientes | also Chinese have a specific unusual grammer they tend to use | Dec 25 02:19 |
| scientes | for English | Dec 25 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Do you misspell intentionally? | Dec 25 02:20 |
| scientes | no | Dec 25 02:21 |
| scientes | i even have spell check in my XChat | Dec 25 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: huh | Dec 25 02:21 |
| scientes | my irc client | Dec 25 02:21 |
| scientes | oh its hexChat now | Dec 25 02:21 |
| XRevan86 | * grammar, Britain, synthesis, phonology | Dec 25 02:22 |
| scientes | https://hunspell.github.io/ | Dec 25 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hunspell.github.io | Hunspell: About | Dec 25 02:22 | |
| XRevan86 | My inner GN breathes out | Dec 25 02:22 |
| scientes | yeah it probably makes me look bad | Dec 25 02:23 |
| scientes | uneducated | Dec 25 02:23 |
| scientes | they are called the "Britons" | Dec 25 02:23 |
| scientes | https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/briton | Dec 25 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dictionary.cambridge.org | Briton | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary | Dec 25 02:24 | |
| XRevan86 | The island is Britain though | Dec 25 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | location | Dec 25 02:24 |
| scientes | yeah but its pronounced the same way | Dec 25 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | * it's :P | Dec 25 02:25 |
| scientes | also i learned that when they speak of Europe it is France, Germany, et cetera | Dec 25 02:25 |
| scientes | and et cetera has a differn't ancient pronounciation---et ketera | Dec 25 02:25 |
| XRevan86 | "c" is an odd letter for sure | Dec 25 02:26 |
| scientes | but you have to be careful with the difference between "UK Britian and Ireland" | Dec 25 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | How did it manage to go from "k" to "ts" is a mystery to me. | Dec 25 02:26 |
| scientes | cause people get touchy about the terminology | Dec 25 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | In Russian there are two words for cinematography | Dec 25 02:28 |
| XRevan86 | kinematograf and sinematograf | Dec 25 02:28 |
| scientes | but those are the same word! | Dec 25 02:29 |
| XRevan86 | the former being the more proper and the latter being an influence from English | Dec 25 02:29 |
| scientes | oh i see | Dec 25 02:29 |
| scientes | music is a greek word, which means much more than the English meaning | Dec 25 02:29 |
| scientes | which i learned from reading Plato's Republic | Dec 25 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | the Russian muzyka means exactly the same thing as in English | Dec 25 02:30 |
| scientes | it basically means what "liberal arts" means today in English | Dec 25 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | Probably from French, both words | Dec 25 02:30 |
| scientes | no, its a greek word | Dec 25 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | through | Dec 25 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | French | Dec 25 02:31 |
| XRevan86 | This raises another question… | Dec 25 02:31 |
| XRevan86 | What the heck is "liberal arts" (: | Dec 25 02:31 |
| scientes | mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music | Dec 25 02:31 |
| scientes | yeah any words that gets touched by American formal politics gets corrupted in its meaning | Dec 25 02:32 |
| XRevan86 | In contrast with "martial arts" or technical skills? | Dec 25 02:33 |
| scientes | basically, aristocratic arts | Dec 25 02:33 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism#Intellectual_sources | Dec 25 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Classical liberalism - Wikipedia | Dec 25 02:34 | |
| XRevan86 | or stuff unrestricted by practical application like theoretical science? | Dec 25 02:34 |
| scientes | yeah that is even better: stuff that doesn't have immediate applicability, but rather is for building a "well-rounded" individual | Dec 25 02:35 |
| scientes | and thus "educated" | Dec 25 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | There isn't really an analogue in Russian or I cannot find one | Dec 25 02:36 |
| scientes | maybe French haha | Dec 25 02:37 |
| XRevan86 | There's "творчество", which literally means creation of something or a product of such | Dec 25 02:37 |
| XRevan86 | But it mostly means art in a sense like pictures, music, photography | Dec 25 02:37 |
| XRevan86 | When something new is created | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | 25 031806 <+scientes> ok then there are 3 True ways, US, UK, and Indian | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | what happened to the others? | Dec 25 02:38 |
| scientes | and UK is English of course | Dec 25 02:38 |
| scientes | oh, and Australian | Dec 25 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | Science isn't normally included (unless poetically) | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | and Canadian | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | and Jamaican | Dec 25 02:38 |
| scientes | and ebonics | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | probably NZ is different from Australian as well | Dec 25 02:38 |
| MinceR | then there's Irish (not Gaelic) | Dec 25 02:39 |
| scientes | this is like noting that Spanish has to be called Castillian in Spanish because there are so many mutually-unintelligible dialects | Dec 25 02:40 |
| scientes | Britian insisted on using Newton's notation for calculus for a very long time, until finially adopting Leibnitz's notation | Dec 25 02:44 |
| scientes | out of national pride | Dec 25 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What's the difference? | Dec 25 02:44 |
| scientes | Newton's notation is confusing | Dec 25 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | I am completely oblivious of such a standard competition | Dec 25 02:44 |
| scientes | they both invented it at the same time | Dec 25 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | Examples? | Dec 25 02:44 |
| scientes | and Newton was pretty pissed about this for the rest of his life | Dec 25 02:45 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculus_controversy | Dec 25 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy - Wikipedia | Dec 25 02:45 | |
| scientes | that doesn't have the notation.... | Dec 25 02:45 |
| XRevan86 | > out of national pride | Dec 25 02:45 |
| scientes | this is the part of Newton's notation that survived https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notation_for_differentiation#Newton's_notation | Dec 25 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Notation for differentiation - Wikipedia | Dec 25 02:45 | |
| XRevan86 | Now it's 'Merica %) | Dec 25 02:46 |
| scientes | yeah, why doesn't everyone speak american? | Dec 25 02:46 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0msQb5SiPSI | Dec 25 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patriotic Teen Fails Spanish - YouTube | Dec 25 02:46 | |
| XRevan86 | Thanks, 'Merica, for NN inch screens | Dec 25 02:47 |
| scientes | XRevan86, especially in clinging to the British imperial measurments | Dec 25 02:47 |
| scientes | we don't even use the metric pound, but the 454g imperial pound. and there are TWO imperial miles | Dec 25 02:47 |
| MinceR | which american? :> | Dec 25 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | It's cute how in ST:TNG they say "metric tons" and "17 Celsius", as if they'd bother with that redundancy in a metric society | Dec 25 02:49 |
| XRevan86 | There's minus one degree outside. | Dec 25 02:51 |
| scientes | https://i.redd.it/ge11aszq0c311.jpg | Dec 25 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | That I'm not talking about Kelvins can be taken by the use of the word "degree", the existence of a minus and the absolute value as well | Dec 25 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Moscow | Dec 25 02:53 |
| scientes | they didn't know what absolute zero was either, so they couldn't use kelvins, not that it would be practical anyways | Dec 25 02:54 |
| scientes | oh celsius was backwards before 1743 | Dec 25 02:55 |
| scientes | although farenheit was also borked, and was only defined by itsself, because the person tested has a fever | Dec 25 02:55 |
| scientes | *had | Dec 25 02:56 |
| XRevan86 | I think I noticed that because it was said "17 Celsius" like 17C, which omits "degree" | Dec 25 02:56 |
| scientes | but farenheit gets credit for being the first to really figure out temprature | Dec 25 02:56 |
| scientes | he also made 32 the freezing point cause he wanted to avoid negative numbers | Dec 25 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | There's also a word "centigrade" | Dec 25 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I wonder why | Dec 25 02:57 |
| scientes | but yeah americans (me included) have a hard time feeling centigrade tempratures | Dec 25 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | Negative numbers are a good indicator that steam will come out of one's mouth | Dec 25 02:58 |
| scientes | there is so much humidity around here that my glasses always fog up when i come inside | Dec 25 02:58 |
| scientes | its really annoying | Dec 25 02:59 |
| scientes | the triple point of water (exactly 0.01 °C or 32.018 °F) | Dec 25 03:00 |
| scientes | WUT | Dec 25 03:00 |
| scientes | so the triple point isn't exactly 0C? | Dec 25 03:00 |
| XRevan86 | 36.6°C is the normal human armpit temperature, 8°C is the cave temperature | Dec 25 03:01 |
| scientes | thats a pretty cold cave, but livable | Dec 25 03:01 |
| scientes | I would say more around 12c | Dec 25 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Metrology is complicated | Dec 25 03:04 |
| scientes | I studied some of it for aeronautics | Dec 25 03:05 |
| scientes | youve got a storm coming in in a few days https://www.accuweather.com/en/ru/national/satellite | Dec 25 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | But Celsius degrees are definitely appealing for the idea simplicity | Dec 25 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | It's easy to grok | Dec 25 03:06 |
| scientes | yeah i think they are better | Dec 25 03:06 |
| scientes | but they are not AS inferior as the distance system we have, which is insane | Dec 25 03:06 |
| scientes | the imperial liquid system is actually quite sane, as it is based on powers of two, which can be done with much more primitive equitment than the metric liquid system | Dec 25 03:07 |
| scientes | there are also WAY too many differn't units for pressure | Dec 25 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The most amusing thing is how the rest of the world settled on a better system | Dec 25 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | It's not like there's an ongoing competition | Dec 25 03:08 |
| scientes | yeah my friend worked for Boeing, and they used decimal inches | Dec 25 03:08 |
| scientes | its insane | Dec 25 03:08 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They used what? | Dec 25 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | micromiles or something? | Dec 25 03:09 |
| scientes | imperial inches (2.54 cm), but divided using the metric system | Dec 25 03:09 |
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| XRevan86 | centiinches? | Dec 25 03:10 |
| scientes | while in carpentry it is customary to use fractions, like 3/16 inch | Dec 25 03:10 |
| scientes | so when you build a house around here and you get wood from canada (which there is a big tariff on) it is slightly smaller, because they use 2.5 ratio, instead of 2.54 | Dec 25 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | 2.5 millimetre ~ 1 deciinch %) | Dec 25 03:11 |
| scientes | no sure how the lengths work | Dec 25 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | * millimetres | Dec 25 03:11 |
| scientes | and you also have to have two wrench sets | Dec 25 03:11 |
| scientes | its total insanity | Dec 25 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | Okay, I cannot do math at all right now | Dec 25 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | 6am | Dec 25 03:13 |
| XRevan86 | Good night %) | Dec 25 03:13 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-gauge_railway | Dec 25 03:13 |
| scientes | ha! something imperial that you use | Dec 25 03:13 |
| scientes | good night | Dec 25 03:14 |
| scientes | 6am geeze | Dec 25 03:14 |
| XRevan86 | Amazing how easy it is to observe with math the difference between sleep deprived me and me who have slept | Dec 25 03:14 |
| MinceR | 25 041000 <+XRevan86> centiinches? | Dec 25 03:14 |
| MinceR | attoparsecs | Dec 25 03:14 |
| scientes | MinceR, nanoacre | Dec 25 03:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 25 03:15 |
| scientes | MinceR, a joke on how expensive real-estate is, both in silicon valley, and on a silicon die | Dec 25 03:16 |
| MinceR | we could measure length in sqrt(acre) | Dec 25 03:17 |
| scientes | especially as the rest of the world is settled on hectres | Dec 25 03:17 |
| MinceR | or even sqrt(handegg pitch) | Dec 25 03:17 |
| scientes | hectares | Dec 25 03:17 |
| scientes | also snap, crackle, and pop | Dec 25 03:18 |
| scientes | the 4th, 5th, and 6th derivitives (after jerk) | Dec 25 03:19 |
| scientes | the one true way is Little-Endian | Dec 25 03:21 |
| MinceR | there is no one true way | Dec 25 03:21 |
| scientes | but that came from the book | Dec 25 03:21 |
| scientes | which you should read | Dec 25 03:21 |
| scientes | "The books of the Big-Endians have been long forbidden." | Dec 25 03:22 |
| MinceR | which book? | Dec 25 03:22 |
| scientes | also the origin of the name for yahoo.com | Dec 25 03:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 25 03:22 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that | Dec 25 03:22 |
| scientes | (which is a sound a horse makes BTW) | Dec 25 03:22 |
| MinceR | i never heard a horse say "yahoo!" | Dec 25 03:22 |
| scientes | have you ever heard a chicken say "cluck"? | Dec 25 03:23 |
| MinceR | not really | Dec 25 03:23 |
| MinceR | but even that's closer | Dec 25 03:23 |
| MinceR | i do like the way the register phrases their headlines involving yahoo!, though | Dec 25 03:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But the internets are Big-Endian | Dec 25 03:24 |
| MinceR | little endian is handier when you need to truncate an integer to a smaller integer of the same value, if possible | Dec 25 03:25 |
| MinceR | since they'll have the same address | Dec 25 03:25 |
| MinceR | big endian is less confusing | Dec 25 03:25 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-wXbyEQ5TM | Dec 25 03:26 |
| scientes | you gotta read the book however | Dec 25 03:26 |
| scientes | he describes bureaucracies as a bunch of people on a ladder, each eating the feces of the person above them :) | Dec 25 03:26 |
| XRevan86 | Russian horses say ee-goh-goh, which isn't particularly nailing it, but compared to "yahoo"… | Dec 25 03:26 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gauge_in_Australia really the map saying Australia is Standard gauge there is kind of deceptive. | Dec 25 03:27 |
| MinceR | are russian horses aware of this? | Dec 25 03:27 |
| MinceR | then again, maybe it's a soft 'h', which just happens to be written with a 'g' | Dec 25 03:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They are oblivious on the matter | Dec 25 03:28 |
| scientes | well there are two sounds in *Gulliver's Travels* for horses, and also "yehaw" | Dec 25 03:28 |
| oiaohm | scientes: tripple guage areas get mess. | Dec 25 03:28 |
| scientes | the other one is closer | Dec 25 03:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The pronunciation depends on the dialect %) | Dec 25 03:29 |
| MinceR | the dialect of the horse or the dialect of russian? | Dec 25 03:29 |
| scientes | Houyhnhnm and Yahoo | Dec 25 03:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Russian | Dec 25 03:30 |
| scientes | http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17157/17157-h/17157-h.htm | Dec 25 03:30 |
| XRevan86 | The literature Russian would use the hard "g" | Dec 25 03:30 |
| MinceR | maybe they haven't encountered horse | Dec 25 03:31 |
| MinceR | s | Dec 25 03:31 |
| XRevan86 | Whether that was the original intent of whoever made ee-goh-goh up is unknown to me (: | Dec 25 03:31 |
| scientes | the little-endians are people that eat eggs from the little end first | Dec 25 03:31 |
| scientes | and big-endians eat them from the big end first | Dec 25 03:31 |
| scientes | hence: "Many hundred large volumes have been published upon this controversy, but the books of the Big-endians have been long forbidden, and the whole party rendered incapable, by law, of holding employments." | Dec 25 03:32 |
| XRevan86 | And I eat from whatever end happens to be closer my mouth | Dec 25 03:32 |
| MinceR | well, since the bubble is usually on the big end, i find it easier to crack the shell from there | Dec 25 03:32 |
| XRevan86 | Unaffected by the cracking process, since I peel first, then eat | Dec 25 03:33 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe it would've made a difference if I liked liquid eggs… | Dec 25 03:33 |
| oiaohm | scientes: network traffic address encoding is big-endian. | Dec 25 03:34 |
| scientes | ARMv5 has a mixed-endian floating point format | Dec 25 03:34 |
| oiaohm | scientes: no big-endian no internet. | Dec 25 03:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Considering "yahoo", a horse is apparently a mythical creature | Dec 25 03:35 |
| scientes | oh my bad | Dec 25 03:35 |
| XRevan86 | And considering "oink-oink" so are swines | Dec 25 03:35 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo_(Gulliver%27s_Travels) | Dec 25 03:35 |
| scientes | Houyhnhnm is the sound of the horse | Dec 25 03:36 |
| scientes | its part of the same section of the book so i got it confused | Dec 25 03:36 |
| XRevan86 | That's less exciting | Dec 25 03:37 |
| scientes | oh its a mythical type of horses | Dec 25 03:37 |
| scientes | as are the Houyhnhnm | Dec 25 03:37 |
| scientes | this horse has a differn't number of chromosomes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przewalski%27s_horse | Dec 25 03:38 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/rheutz.mp4 | Dec 25 03:38 |
| MinceR | i thought you could tell ARM cores which endianness you wanted | Dec 25 03:38 |
| scientes | yeah but floating point is differn't | Dec 25 03:39 |
| scientes | and this format is NOT IEEE 754 | Dec 25 03:39 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/RaEW9df.png | Dec 25 03:40 |
| scientes | which everybody should be using, but intel had to keep its old 80-bit format, so its not universal | Dec 25 03:40 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Arm cores can be confusing endianness can be hard set or software set. This is a silicon production choice. | Dec 25 03:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 25 03:41 |
| scientes | yeah but little-endian kind of won | Dec 25 03:41 |
| scientes | (except on the internet) | Dec 25 03:41 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically the arm controller register can be fuseable links or ram set. | Dec 25 03:42 |
| scientes | like even powerpc is little-endian these days | Dec 25 03:42 |
| MinceR | oh, i thought one could save some silicon by fixing it | Dec 25 03:42 |
| oiaohm | So you can have a arm process in a embedded device that is pure big endian. | Dec 25 03:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: same silicon size with arm locked or unlocked. | Dec 25 03:42 |
| MinceR | no surprise, given that it's done by fusing the controller register | Dec 25 03:43 |
| scientes | oh, soviet gague is actually wide | Dec 25 03:43 |
| scientes | but still imperial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-gauge_railway | Dec 25 03:43 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broad-gauge_railway#5_ft_and_1520_mm_gauge | Dec 25 03:43 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC#Endian_modes PowerPC endian stuff gets horriblely nasty. | Dec 25 03:44 |
| oiaohm | You can have per memory page endian state with PowerPC. | Dec 25 03:44 |
| scientes | ahh, so there is a clear way to tell is a country is in "eastern" europe: it uses russian gauge railroads :) | Dec 25 03:51 |
| scientes | which makes poland not in eastern europe | Dec 25 03:51 |
| scientes | oh woah, US south was converted from russian gauge to standard gauge after civil war | Dec 25 03:54 |
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| scientes | i like old roman roads and cobble stone | Dec 25 04:21 |
| scientes | people just have to drive slower | Dec 25 04:21 |
| scientes | i mean if you take into acount the time to make the money to support the car, it is actually slower than walking | Dec 25 04:21 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is some russian gauge rail in some mines in Australia. | Dec 25 04:26 |
| oiaohm | scientes: rail is kind of a mess around the world with many places with basically every single gauge if you know where to look. | Dec 25 04:27 |
| scientes | us standardized quite a bit on standard guage | Dec 25 04:27 |
| scientes | by adjusting many rails | Dec 25 04:28 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there are load factors that cause usage of wider rails and there are mining areas causing need for smaller rails. | Dec 25 04:55 |
| scientes | short wave might be shut down https://www.voanews.com/a/time-may-be-running-out-for-millions-of-clocks/4554376.html | Dec 25 04:56 |
| scientes | need more money for military glut | Dec 25 04:58 |
| oiaohm | scientes: some of those have the 32 bit problem. | Dec 25 05:09 |
| oiaohm | scientes: time is running out on those clocks in more than 1 way. | Dec 25 05:10 |
| scientes | should i get a shortwave radio and an amateur radio? | Dec 25 05:12 |
| scientes | are two-way amateur radios expensive? | Dec 25 05:12 |
| scientes | I guess you would need an antenna to go any reasonable distance | Dec 25 05:13 |
| scientes | i think i am going to get this it is cheap https://www.ebay.com/itm/TIVDIO-VT-111-Portable-AM-FM-SW-FM-Shortwave-Radio-with-Clock-and-Alarm-Black-US/361522576604?hash=item542c6cbcdc:g:yOsAAOSwSlBY3cJe:rk:22:pf:0 | Dec 25 05:13 |
| scientes | shortwave shouldn't be abandoned | Dec 25 05:14 |
| scientes | russia already abandoned shortwave | Dec 25 05:15 |
| scientes | http://shortwavetimes.com/ | Dec 25 05:16 |
| scientes | And China Radio International gives you a powerful signal, proudly telling listeners "we will never give up on Short Wave." | Dec 25 05:16 |
| scientes | I once listened to bbc short wave it was cool | Dec 25 05:17 |
| scientes | ahh i need one that supports digital short wave | Dec 25 05:18 |
| scientes | hmm looks like the digital format doesn't have any uptake | Dec 25 05:22 |
| scientes | ahhh the digital format is patent-encumbered.... | Dec 25 05:24 |
| scientes | radio australia also closed down | Dec 25 05:25 |
| scientes | but not new zealand | Dec 25 05:25 |
| scientes | its really sad that shortwave has been shut-down---it is one of those things you feel will last forever | Dec 25 05:28 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://freedv.org/ there is a open source digitial codec in usage in some parts of shortwave. | Dec 25 05:42 |
| oiaohm | scientes: insane part is that the codec2 codec to have legal export from Australia had to have the document for the legal allowance of export of weapon of mass destruction. | Dec 25 05:43 |
| scientes | lawls | Dec 25 05:44 |
| scientes | i think i'll get that $13 radio | Dec 25 05:44 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Linux Conference Australia had that document up on screen with the talk about codec2. | Dec 25 05:45 |
| scientes | shortwave is cool | Dec 25 05:45 |
| oiaohm | Lot people think that the digital formats are patent-encumbered for radio that why they are not closed soruce but they is only half the problem. USA/UK and Australian export laws are asses. | Dec 25 05:45 |
| scientes | not anymore in us | Dec 25 05:46 |
| scientes | well, the huawei thing... | Dec 25 05:46 |
| scientes | i am actually a plan of one belt one road | Dec 25 05:46 |
| scientes | *fan | Dec 25 05:46 |
| scientes | at least some of it | Dec 25 05:46 |
| oiaohm | Codec2 if it was closed source would not have need the weapon of mass destruction export thing. | Dec 25 05:46 |
| scientes | it is a more honest fizzle out | Dec 25 05:47 |
| scientes | i need to figure out where to homestead | Dec 25 05:47 |
| oiaohm | It on the theory that a enemy can modify the open source codec so hide what they are up to. So there is some insane restrictions. | Dec 25 05:47 |
| scientes | i was thinking about panama | Dec 25 05:47 |
| scientes | i can't afford land around here | Dec 25 05:48 |
| scientes | land is much cheaper in panama | Dec 25 05:48 |
| scientes | i still would have to work for a year | Dec 25 05:48 |
| scientes | and i would get a great plot with a river | Dec 25 05:49 |
| scientes | also us culture is really sick | Dec 25 05:54 |
| scientes | MinceR, what do you think of China's hand in Australian natural resources? | Dec 25 06:29 |
| scientes | https://external-preview.redd.it/mp4/Hb_fnEE_W_L6N4aWSW6Gj2cR5JtSjkp_CA2dnvFLWjA-source.mp4?s=d04c5ef8456995d4d5513f5b3bb8f22328b96478 | Dec 25 06:45 |
| scientes | what a bullshit url is that? | Dec 25 06:45 |
| scientes | impressive: https://i.imgur.com/NOhkLcl.gifv | Dec 25 06:50 |
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| trn | Ho ho ho!! | Dec 25 12:38 |
| schestowitz | oh oh oh | Dec 25 12:50 |
| scientes | so the real unemployeement rate in the US is 49% | Dec 25 15:47 |
| scientes | that sounds more like it | Dec 25 15:47 |
| scientes | the percentage of working-age adults without jobs | Dec 25 15:47 |
| MinceR | https://media.giphy.com/media/oMK5z1GT0B87S/giphy.gif | Dec 25 16:16 |
| MinceR | 25 072955 <+scientes> MinceR, what do you think of China's hand in Australian natural resources? | Dec 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of it | Dec 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | 25 074540 <+scientes> what a bullshit url is that? | Dec 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | downscaled, re-encoded? :> | Dec 25 16:17 |
| scientes | https://theconversation.com/book-review-clive-hamiltons-silent-invasion-chinas-influence-in-australia-93650 | Dec 25 16:28 |
| ---MinceR gives voice to TechrightsBot-tr Firee brendyyn amarsh04 | Dec 25 16:46 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to vallor __martin__ | Dec 25 16:46 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568201.jpg | Dec 25 17:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | the percentage of working-age adults without jobs | Dec 25 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 49% seems high | Dec 25 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | USA Today said that Trump's new regulation taking away food stamps from able bodied adults without children who don't have a job would affect 750,000 people. That doees seem like a lot. | Dec 25 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's designed to make the regulation seem less cruel than it really is. | Dec 25 17:05 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/there-are-100-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs | Dec 25 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theeconomiccollapseblog.com | There Are 100 Million Working Age Americans That Do Not Have Jobs ***UPDATED*** | Dec 25 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't affect children (yet) and "Those lazy bums don't wan a job.". | Dec 25 17:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody asks if there actually is a job for them. | Dec 25 17:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Economic Collapse Blog? | Dec 25 17:06 |
| scientes | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Not-In-Labor-Force-April-2012.png | Dec 25 17:06 |
| scientes | lol good meme http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chimps-Throwing-Poop-And-29-Other-Mind-Blowing-Ways-That-The-Government-Is-Wasting-Your-Money.jpg | Dec 25 17:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/people-who-are-not-in-the-labor-force-why-arent-they-working.htm | Dec 25 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bls.gov | People who are not in the labor force: why aren't they working? : Beyond the Numbers: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics | Dec 25 17:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Retirement and "in school" are two major reasons. | Dec 25 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL "In school." Education Bubble". | Dec 25 17:09 |
| scientes | yep http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/10/07/the-growth-in-student-debt/ | Dec 25 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pewsocialtrends.org | The Growth in Student Debt | Pew Research Center | Dec 25 17:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Conners made fun of this. That dorky loser guy who lives off his girlfrield. | Dec 25 17:09 |
| scientes | its just a way to kick the can down the road | Dec 25 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Come on. We all know (at least) one. | Dec 25 17:09 |
| scientes | getting literature degrees | Dec 25 17:09 |
| scientes | and art history | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | and gender studies | Dec 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | at the cost of $20000 a year | Dec 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart's full up on those right now. | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | not that those studies are not worthy | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | it just doesn't cost that much to study them | Dec 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wait for the next hiring fair! | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | well, except gender studies | Dec 25 17:10 |
| scientes | that is useless | Dec 25 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Borrowing money at 6% interest that you can't default on to get a worthless degree. | Dec 25 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | What is gender studies anyway? | Dec 25 17:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's worse, now that all those people have one, employers are requiring it for entry level jobs, because they can, and fuck you. | Dec 25 17:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw an opening for hotel front desk clerk that required "two years of college" the other day. | Dec 25 17:11 |
| scientes | the amount of student debt is just a straight line upwards | Dec 25 17:12 |
| scientes | exponential debt | Dec 25 17:12 |
| scientes | XRevan86, mainly professional men-bashing | Dec 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There should be a new law. | Dec 25 17:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Forget minimum wage for a moment, but the law should say that if a job pays less than $28,000 a year (indexed to inflation), it cannot require a college degree. | Dec 25 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: All men are goats, yes | Dec 25 17:14 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkDLy2TYxQ | Dec 25 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOAT K-POP - YouTube | Dec 25 17:14 | |
| XRevan86 | Did I just complete the course? | Dec 25 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | okay, goats are awesome | Dec 25 17:15 |
| scientes | there is a sheep in that video.... | Dec 25 17:18 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121717 | Dec 25 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 17:21 | |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbBKPqOh6DU | Dec 25 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China’s Internet Censorship Agency Has Its Own Anthem And We Translated It - YouTube | Dec 25 17:23 | |
| scientes | haha the end of this video deliberately has the russian accented English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNibqsp9NAM | Dec 25 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Last Christmas' cover by Russia’s National Guard - YouTube | Dec 25 17:31 | |
| XRevan86 | Not a bad cover | Dec 25 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | weird %) | Dec 25 17:35 |
| scientes | so today is just a normal day in Russia? | Dec 25 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Apart from some Rosguard signers, nothing special | Dec 25 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | * singers | Dec 25 17:36 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAusMNTNnk | Dec 25 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bride Kidnapping in Kyrgyzstan - YouTube | Dec 25 17:36 | |
| scientes | I gotta ask my Tajikistan woman friend about that | Dec 25 17:37 |
| scientes | haha "the west condems bridge kidnapping but they provide us with nothing we can fallow, only gay and lesbian marriages, hiv, divorce, orphans, brutality, violence and drugs | Dec 25 17:39 |
| scientes | lol | Dec 25 17:40 |
| scientes | so true | Dec 25 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Not going to watch that -_- | Dec 25 17:40 |
| scientes | its a western documentary | Dec 25 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Russians don't approve of kidnapping brides either | Dec 25 17:40 |
| scientes | of course | Dec 25 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | even though Russia has "spiritual bonds" and all that potato salad | Dec 25 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | So that excuse is pretty darn weak even by these standards | Dec 25 17:42 |
| scientes | its better than murdering the men boys and crones, "The Greatest Happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you. To see his cities reduced to ashes. To see those who love him shrouded and in tears. And to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters."-Genghis Khan | Dec 25 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/pzmI3vAIhbE (no reason) | Dec 25 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dschinghis Khan - Dschinghis Khan (1979) - YouTube | Dec 25 17:44 | |
| scientes | why else are boy-bands a thing? | Dec 25 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The Greatest Happiness is crime of war, and bride kidnapping is mandane little injustices that apparently happen every day. | Dec 25 17:47 |
| scientes | its certainly not woorse then the way chinese sell north korean bridges | Dec 25 17:50 |
| scientes | *brides | Dec 25 17:50 |
| scientes | i would say it is less offensive than selling women | Dec 25 17:50 |
| scientes | especially when they already know each other | Dec 25 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It is less offensive than literal slavery, yes. | Dec 25 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | And it falls down nicely to the Muslim way of treating women (I noticed how they said that after the collapse of USSR Kyrgistan adopted Islam as the state religion) | Dec 25 17:51 |
| scientes | the other people present in the documentary when the bridge gets kidnapped, they are laughing when they see it | Dec 25 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | at least they don't pack them in bags? | Dec 25 17:52 |
| scientes | not even a blanket | Dec 25 17:52 |
| scientes | they just shove her in the car | Dec 25 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It's not like an actual person got hurt, amirite? | Dec 25 17:53 |
| scientes | no, she is certainly a person | Dec 25 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | </dark_sarcasm> | Dec 25 17:53 |
| scientes | she cries for her mom | Dec 25 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | It's amazing how little traditionalists ever think of actual people and their dignity. | Dec 25 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | Abstract Traditional Ways are most important than people. | Dec 25 17:55 |
| scientes | i don't see that | Dec 25 17:55 |
| scientes | they arn't going to rape her, they wait for her to consent | Dec 25 17:56 |
| scientes | not that it isn't pressured of course | Dec 25 17:56 |
| scientes | the whole family is persuading | Dec 25 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I'd like to see what happens when the bride says her final "no" and goes. | Dec 25 17:57 |
| scientes | showering with candy and getting her to eat---its kinda like that scene in Spirited Away (Ghibli studios) | Dec 25 17:57 |
| scientes | XRevan86, agreed | Dec 25 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | and then someone kidnaps her again, goto 1 | Dec 25 17:57 |
| scientes | if she just leaves | Dec 25 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | "you have missed work two times, what is your excuse, lady?" | Dec 25 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | "participating in traditions" | Dec 25 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | honourable | Dec 25 17:58 |
| scientes | it only took a little time after the kidnapping for her to accept hospitality and smile up | Dec 25 17:59 |
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| scientes | and in that way she has saved face---it wasn't her choice | Dec 25 17:59 |
| scientes | old man: "in our tradition if she spends one night, she will stay forever" | Dec 25 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | Gives a new connotation to sleepovers | Dec 25 18:01 |
| scientes | like the film-maker finds them slaughtering a sheep for the wedding gross.... | Dec 25 18:02 |
| scientes | fucking western pussies | Dec 25 18:02 |
| XRevan86 | the most innocent thing in this whole tradition | Dec 25 18:03 |
| scientes | so the tradition is after the wedding all the men go to the brides family and apologize | Dec 25 18:04 |
| scientes | and bridge a dowry | Dec 25 18:05 |
| scientes | *bring | Dec 25 18:05 |
| scientes | (which is a second sheep and other gifts) | Dec 25 18:05 |
| XRevan86 | "well, too late to do anything now, to be able to continue seeing about family member we will have to forgive you: forgiveness granted" | Dec 25 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | * our family member | Dec 25 18:06 |
| scientes | no they put on their best clothes and have a huge feast | Dec 25 18:06 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Notice that *after* the wedding | Dec 25 18:06 |
| scientes | yeah but i don't see it in such a negative life---she could leave | Dec 25 18:07 |
| scientes | *light | Dec 25 18:07 |
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| scientes | the difference is if the bureaucracy---the all-powerful church, does a binding wedding (and traditionally there was no divorce)---or if it is an informal wedding with this dirty kidnapping part so both sides can save face | Dec 25 18:07 |
| scientes | and the poor of course were never bound to that bureaucracy---so it was more of a show, something you see in Jane Eyre---where the women in order to feel strong has to stand up to the victorian social obligations of no divorce, even though the other woman is.....well read the book/watch the movie | Dec 25 18:09 |
| scientes | and if it is an alternate to childhood marriages | Dec 25 18:11 |
| scientes | it means the women get to get an education | Dec 25 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I guess you're message is that I'm closed minded and push them too hard to accept my morality instead of allowing them to find their own way or something. | Dec 25 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | * your message | Dec 25 18:12 |
| scientes | Neitzche said "morality is the heard instinct of the individual" | Dec 25 18:15 |
| scientes | and i think the socially imposed morality of the church on marriage is of *pretending( to be pure | Dec 25 18:16 |
| scientes | and this kidnapping provides a way of saving face for two families, and bridge and groom, without having to make it about money | Dec 25 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | I really don't care about this | Dec 25 18:16 |
| scientes | or having nuclear families | Dec 25 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | Everyone can announce their intentions of living together how they wish | Dec 25 18:17 |
| scientes | the iman only came after this was all over | Dec 25 18:18 |
| scientes | even though they already had the wedding | Dec 25 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | One mustn't just kidnap people off the streets | Dec 25 18:18 |
| scientes | yes agreed | Dec 25 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | this has to stay only in movies | Dec 25 18:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://hackaday.com/2018/12/25/automatic-soap-dispenser-hides-arduino-board/ | Dec 25 18:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automatic Soap Dispenser Hides Arduino Board | Hackaday | Dec 25 18:20 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: So, basically, there has to be consent *all the way* | Dec 25 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | And not just post-factum | Dec 25 18:22 |
| scientes | there was in this case | Dec 25 18:22 |
| scientes | but it isn't so simple | Dec 25 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | In fact, how can you tell a woman that is being abducted from the streets is a potential bride or a kidney donor? | Dec 25 18:22 |
| scientes | you can't---the abductors knew the local cops though | Dec 25 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | It works both ways | Dec 25 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | people can see a woman being abducted and not even blink | Dec 25 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | nothing bad happening there | Dec 25 18:24 |
| scientes | there are lots of problems like this | Dec 25 18:24 |
| scientes | but there is no history of abuse that you are speaking of | Dec 25 18:24 |
| scientes | kidney transplants require clean facilities and good transportation | Dec 25 18:25 |
| scientes | it is hard to do organ transplant without government help | Dec 25 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't literally mean a kidney donor | Dec 25 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | a slave in the mountains or something | Dec 25 18:25 |
| scientes | there is no way to prevent such things except human goodness | Dec 25 18:26 |
| scientes | so stop worrying about them | Dec 25 18:26 |
| scientes | and how could you have a slave in the mountains | Dec 25 18:26 |
| scientes | slavery is a very difficult instition to enforce and maintain | Dec 25 18:26 |
| scientes | again, it requires government | Dec 25 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I remembered a news article like that | Dec 25 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | exactly about that, slaves in the mountains | Dec 25 18:27 |
| scientes | well, if you are talking about concentration camps, like they have in North Korea..... | Dec 25 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Russia | Dec 25 18:27 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms4NIB6xroc | Dec 25 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BORN AND RAISED IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP - YouTube | Dec 25 18:27 | |
| XRevan86 | contemporaru | Dec 25 18:27 |
| scientes | there are north korean work camps in russia | Dec 25 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | Russian | Dec 25 18:27 |
| scientes | these are slave camps in russia | Dec 25 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | and IIRC it was a horse ranch or something like that | Dec 25 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, I read that Kevin Spacey has been charged wih a felony sexual assault on a minor, but when I scrolled the article, it said that he sexually assaulted an 18 year old. | Dec 25 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could very well still be sexual assault, but how is 18 a minor? | Dec 25 18:28 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awQDLoOnkdI | Dec 25 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-North Korean Labor Camps - VICE NEWS - Part 1 of 7 - YouTube | Dec 25 18:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I was 18, my parents said "We don't want you here. Get out." and that was the end of that. | Dec 25 18:29 |
| scientes | XRevan86, men often propose when they arn't really ready to propose and dont mean it | Dec 25 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48427561_339025113595644_9029301607417774080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=71b622bed7a0586ab90f95ac38170125&oe=5C9DBA7A | Dec 25 19:00 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], merry christmas | Dec 25 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Back atcha | Dec 25 19:02 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121715 | Dec 25 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fine tradition of trying to figure out if there's a Chinese restaurant that's open somewhere. | Dec 25 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 19:02 | |
| scientes | we are behind the times | Dec 25 19:02 |
| scientes | literally | Dec 25 19:02 |
| scientes | the rest of the world already had christmas | Dec 25 19:02 |
| scientes | we should move the international date line to the atlantic ocean, so we can get ahead of everyone :) | Dec 25 19:03 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812158 | Dec 25 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 19:14 | |
| scientes | https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/nov/19/pressandpublishing.china | Dec 25 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Charles sues Mail for printing his 'waxworks' jibe at Chinese leaders | Media | The Guardian | Dec 25 19:19 | |
| scientes | If a prince marries a commoner that commoner becomes a princess, but if a princess marries a commoner she looser her title | Dec 25 19:44 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/5QoQygj.gifv | Dec 25 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 25 20:03 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812128 | Dec 25 20:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 20:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812152 | Dec 25 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 20:55 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 25 21:20 | |
| scientes | like there are some crazy anthropologists that defend female genital mutilation | Dec 25 21:40 |
| scientes | i'm not willing to do that | Dec 25 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | What is the argument? | Dec 25 21:40 |
| scientes | that "its their culture" | Dec 25 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | ah | Dec 25 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | So it's like watching Animal Planet, I guess. | Dec 25 21:41 |
| scientes | yeah anthropologists are generally quite crazy | Dec 25 21:42 |
| scientes | and yes, animal planet | Dec 25 21:42 |
| scientes | this is very interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aV_850nzv4 | Dec 25 21:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tribe meets white man for the first time 1/3 (with narration) - YouTube | Dec 25 21:42 | |
| XRevan86 | Maybe they're thinking "a dark-haired albino? unprecedented!" :) | Dec 25 21:44 |
| scientes | they also think that that this stuff could have been build with stone tools https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC9JHVPm-4P5QDp9vk8EH-A/videos | Dec 25 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mystery History - YouTube | Dec 25 21:44 | |
| scientes | when it clearly requires a diamond saw | Dec 25 21:44 |
| scientes | there is so much pseudoscience in academics these days | Dec 25 21:45 |
| scientes | where you are not allowed to have new ideas | Dec 25 21:45 |
| scientes | but it has probably always been like that | Dec 25 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You mean, like this: https://youtu.be/WbhvFJjAjag?t=104 ? | Dec 25 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Как древние египтяне пилили гранит: опыт Николая Васютина - YouTube | Dec 25 21:47 | |
| scientes | why is only the title russian? | Dec 25 21:49 |
| scientes | and all the comments? | Dec 25 21:49 |
| scientes | do they allow translated titles and such? | Dec 25 21:49 |
| scientes | anyways, that is really col | Dec 25 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The video is in Russian | Dec 25 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | they just don't talk all that much | Dec 25 21:49 |
| scientes | but the description is in english for me | Dec 25 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | well, they talk at the beginning, but that's why I added a timestamp | Dec 25 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They do allow translations, yes | Dec 25 21:50 |
| scientes | ahhh ok | Dec 25 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | I guess that video was noticed by English speakers :) | Dec 25 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | I see there are subs as well (also in French) | Dec 25 21:51 |
| scientes | yeah ill send this to my friend that cares alot about this | Dec 25 21:51 |
| scientes | he cut the stones tfrom his property to build a russian fireplace | Dec 25 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The project antropogenez.ru has quite a few demos like this one | Dec 25 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | and that's not the only YouTube channel of theirs | Dec 25 21:52 |
| XRevan86 | I just picked a random video on the topic | Dec 25 21:52 |
| *scientes just learned rubys are aluminum | Dec 25 21:54 | |
| XRevan86 | Thanks to the people like Alexander Sokolov, Alexander Panchin, Valentin Conon and others Russian popular science is on the rise | Dec 25 21:54 |
| scientes | it was huge in 18th century england | Dec 25 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | Rubys are crystalls | Dec 25 21:55 |
| scientes | also, Shenzhen China has a culture of open-source hardware that is very effective | Dec 25 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | crystals | Dec 25 21:55 |
| scientes | aluminum oxide | Dec 25 21:55 |
| scientes | Al | Dec 25 21:56 |
| scientes | 2O | Dec 25 21:56 |
| scientes | 3 | Dec 25 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, yes | Dec 25 21:56 |
| scientes | ahh Al2O3 | Dec 25 21:56 |
| scientes | differn't from boxite which has hydrogen in it | Dec 25 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | Al_2O_3 + Cr | Dec 25 21:56 |
| scientes | hydroxides | Dec 25 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | And the formula for diamonds is: C | Dec 25 21:57 |
| scientes | so why isn't that demonstration using diamond powder? | Dec 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Why should it be involved? | Dec 25 21:58 |
| scientes | diamond is even harder | Dec 25 21:58 |
| scientes | but i guess corundum is good enough | Dec 25 21:58 |
| scientes | floating up granite blocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGH93mt81BA | Dec 25 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the Pyramids of Egypt were really built Addendum - Shaping the blocks - YouTube | Dec 25 21:59 | |
| scientes | meh, that video doesn't point out the lift in tubes | Dec 25 22:00 |
| scientes | here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dup19cX6yXo | Dec 25 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How the Pyramids of Egypt were really built Addendum - Multiple Locks - YouTube | Dec 25 22:00 | |
| scientes | you still have to get slaves to carry up buckets of water to the top | Dec 25 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | Wasn't it established they weren't slaves? | Dec 25 22:02 |
| scientes | well whatever, that isn't important | Dec 25 22:02 |
| scientes | plebs | Dec 25 22:02 |
| oiaohm | scientes: lot of the Egypt records say prisoners and paid workers. | Dec 25 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/jTkVA2EcmY4 the place where the blocks were carved out | Dec 25 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Из чего построены пирамиды? - YouTube | Dec 25 22:03 | |
| XRevan86 | same channel | Dec 25 22:03 |
| scientes | the pharoahs would probably be turning over in their tombs if they knew egyptians pray to mecca now | Dec 25 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But they give tourism income to the country :) | Dec 25 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | a long-term investment | Dec 25 22:07 |
| MinceR | http://hugewoah.com/post/8160 | Dec 25 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugewoah.com | Closing a box made of perfect mirrors with a light bulb inside | Dec 25 22:08 | |
| scientes | chinese grafitti https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/27/article-2331613-1A061BB8000005DC-790_634x422.jpg | Dec 25 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Meh, perfect mirrors | Dec 25 22:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 25 22:09 |
| scientes | thats cool | Dec 25 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | The photons just bounce off and never go away, so of course everything went white | Dec 25 22:10 |
| scientes | but what about the camera | Dec 25 22:11 |
| scientes | does it have a one-way mirror over it? | Dec 25 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | In the simulation the observer is an invisible pink unicorn | Dec 25 22:11 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.wired.co.uk/article/pyramids-new-void-chamber-egypt that water to move the blocks If that is true I would suspect its not on the outside of the pyramid. | Dec 25 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wired.co.uk | A hidden void has been found inside Egypt's Great Pyramid | WIRED UK | Dec 25 22:13 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is like a stair case of voids in the great primidia. | Dec 25 22:13 |
| scientes | its cool that they are only now discovering it | Dec 25 22:13 |
| oiaohm | With pyramids shape it seams stupid to build extra structures out side the size of the pyramid. | Dec 25 22:14 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/02/the-surprisingly-simple-way-egyptians-moved-massive-pyramid-stones-without-modern-technology/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.67e9c4300549 there is a problem with the idea you suggested. | Dec 25 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | The surprisingly simple way Egyptians moved massive pyramid stones without modern technology - The Washington Post | Dec 25 22:17 | |
| oiaohm | Yes there is a record of method on walls of different parts of Egyptian structures. | Dec 25 22:17 |
| oiaohm | So we are looking at sledge took a while to work out how to lubricate them. | Dec 25 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Please note the picture there is one of the status us modern people had to cut into pieces to move. | Dec 25 22:19 |
| oiaohm | In weight it larger than the largest block in the great pyramid when that statue was whole. | Dec 25 22:20 |
| oiaohm | scientes: so we really don't need a theory the historic Egypts left behind pictures of how. Of course I am not going to say they did not use locks and the like to allow boats to move blocks closer. | Dec 25 22:21 |
| oiaohm | The one thing that is not recorded is how in heck do you lift such huge blocks effectively on and off if slegge. | Dec 25 22:23 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHkqamFRTKI | Dec 25 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 5 Goat Songs (2013 - GOAT REMIXES) - YouTube | Dec 25 22:23 | |
| MinceR | ha'taks and tractor beams | Dec 25 22:24 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/n7NFV | Dec 25 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How's it - Album on Imgur | Dec 25 22:31 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568514.jpg | Dec 25 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | "ambitious" is the Corporate for "idiotic" | Dec 25 22:58 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/566944.jpg | Dec 25 23:18 |
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| scientes | HAHAHAHA | Dec 26 01:38 |
| scientes | "remove this niggas ports" | Dec 26 01:38 |
| scientes | but this isn't new | Dec 26 01:38 |
| scientes | with the internal batteries | Dec 26 01:38 |
| scientes | I avoided the nexus 6 because the internal batter is very difficult to replace | Dec 26 01:38 |
| scientes | i have the 5x, still an internal battery, but one that can be replaced if you take the time to do it | Dec 26 01:39 |
| scientes | still should be simple external battery | Dec 26 01:39 |
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| cubexyz | in the UK they would make "egg in a cup" sometimes :) | Dec 26 02:00 |
| cubexyz | so non-endian | Dec 26 02:00 |
| cubexyz | the pot of gold chocolates keep shrinking :-/ | Dec 26 02:02 |
| cubexyz | 247 grams this year | Dec 26 02:02 |
| cubexyz | shrinkflation | Dec 26 02:03 |
| scientes | not even 1/4 metric pount | Dec 26 02:16 |
| scientes | pound | Dec 26 02:16 |
| scientes | red hair is a recessive allele so if two red heads mate all their kids will have red hair | Dec 26 02:16 |
| scientes | XRevan86, the journals shut down alot of research by trying to charge for papers | Dec 26 02:35 |
| scientes | but some of it might be here https://arxiv.org/ | Dec 26 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arXiv.org e-Print archive | Dec 26 02:37 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568285.png | Dec 26 02:56 |
| scientes | https://youtu.be/W4rtGPCsoXA | Dec 26 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Rowan Atkinson the REAL Mr Bean?! | The Graham Norton Show | BBC America - YouTube | Dec 26 03:07 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 4chan? | Dec 26 03:12 |
| schestowitz | also very long | Dec 26 03:12 |
| scientes | yeah when i saw how long it was i just skipped it | Dec 26 03:13 |
| scientes | also when i saw it was from 4chan | Dec 26 03:13 |
| scientes | which is kinda the butt-hole of the internet | Dec 26 03:13 |
| MinceR | probably | Dec 26 03:13 |
| MinceR | and it's not high brow humor | Dec 26 03:14 |
| MinceR | but i found it funny | Dec 26 03:14 |
| scientes | https://vgy.me/CN2K7A.png | Dec 26 03:19 |
| scientes | but (formal) politics IS the same as fantasy football | Dec 26 03:19 |
| scientes | why do the people trying to get us to vote sound so much like sports announcers? | Dec 26 03:20 |
| MinceR | if only politics had only as much impact on my life as fantasy football | Dec 26 03:26 |
| scientes | agreed | Dec 26 03:26 |
| scientes | but in France they protest over these things | Dec 26 03:26 |
| scientes | MinceR, I just read this book it was great https://www.newsociety.com/Books/S/Shrinking-the-Technosphere | Dec 26 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsociety.com | Shrinking the Technosphere | New Society Publishers | Dec 26 03:27 | |
| scientes | and shrinking the effect of that pesky technosphere | Dec 26 03:28 |
| scientes | thats runs formal politics | Dec 26 03:29 |
| scientes | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aD11YR7_700bwp.webp | Dec 26 03:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 26 03:29 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568370.jpg | Dec 26 03:30 |
| scientes | its also cause pigs spread worms | Dec 26 03:32 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/566876.jpg | Dec 26 03:58 |
| scientes | MinceR, what about it | Dec 26 04:44 |
| scientes | that is just a regular christmas tree | Dec 26 04:44 |
| MinceR | no, it has a cat in it :> | Dec 26 04:45 |
| scientes | o now i see it | Dec 26 04:46 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121413 | Dec 26 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 04:48 | |
| scientes | uggghhhh i hate how you have to get technical these | Dec 26 04:49 |
| scientes | these days | Dec 26 04:49 |
| scientes | you know society is being run by the computers (the technosphere) when it just redefines everybody to human and non-human | Dec 26 04:50 |
| scientes | and the other differentials becomes irrelevent | Dec 26 04:50 |
| scientes | and un-trustable | Dec 26 04:50 |
| MinceR | https://betanews.com/2018/12/24/internet-explorer-patch-lenovo-laptops/ | Dec 26 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft's emergency Internet Explorer patch renders some Lenovo laptops unbootable | Dec 26 04:51 | |
| scientes | lawl | Dec 26 04:52 |
| scientes | great os | Dec 26 04:52 |
| schestowitz | Malware with a kernel of its own | Dec 26 04:52 |
| scientes | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Chimps-Throwing-Poop-And-29-Other-Mind-Blowing-Ways-That-The-Government-Is-Wasting-Your-Money.jpg | Dec 26 04:53 |
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| scientes | oh, the orthodox church is still official centered in constantinople! (istambul) | Dec 26 05:25 |
| scientes | when i was reading it before i just assumed greece | Dec 26 05:26 |
| scientes | yeah that is useless history | Dec 26 05:26 |
| scientes | cause islam is basically the state religion of turkey | Dec 26 05:26 |
| scientes | with politicians constantly threatening to turn the Hagia Sophia into a mosque again | Dec 26 05:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: question to be asked with those lenovo is that firmware malware again. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nasty/ | Dec 26 05:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | CAUGHT: Lenovo crams unremovable crapware into Windows laptops – by hiding it in the BIOS • The Register | Dec 26 05:36 | |
| scientes | yet another reason to use Linux | Dec 26 05:44 |
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| scientes | Troglodyte | Dec 26 05:54 |
| scientes | cool word | Dec 26 05:54 |
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| scientes | ahh why is whatsapp so broken | Dec 26 06:47 |
| scientes | i guess it is for spy purposes | Dec 26 06:47 |
| scientes | it is impossible to contact someone that isn't on your contact list | Dec 26 06:47 |
| scientes | soooo stupid | Dec 26 06:47 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Polo, the File Manager with a Paywall http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118823 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5691c01-9443-4d0c-a369-9e91ead2322e] | Dec 26 08:36 | |
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| scientes | https://www.translatemedia.com/translation-blog/how-the-internet-is-changing-language/ | Dec 26 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.translatemedia.com | How the Internet is Changing Language | Dec 26 08:52 | |
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| scientes | hmmm https://www.pimsleur.com/list-of-languages#esl-pane | Dec 26 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Online Language Courses & Programs to Learn Languages | Pimsleur ® | Dec 26 09:09 | |
| scientes | this is my favorite langauge learning system (for the basic grammar) | Dec 26 09:09 |
| scientes | but the only have english->40 languages, and languages->english | Dec 26 09:09 |
| scientes | i guess everybody that learns other language is expected to also learn english, because it is the lingua franca? | Dec 26 09:10 |
| scientes | instead of offering cross-languages | Dec 26 09:10 |
| scientes | like russia-mandarin, or arabic-spanish | Dec 26 09:10 |
| scientes | while german was standardized in germany, all the colonies kept using their bastardized versions of german---afrikans, pensyllvania dutch, et cetera | Dec 26 09:21 |
| scientes | i guess largely because those places were already learning english for larger communiication | Dec 26 09:21 |
| scientes | but it seems kinda stupid to not give their kids access to the great literature written in high-german | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | FAUST: | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | Habe nun, ach! Philosophie, | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | Juristerei und Medizin, | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | Und leider auch Theologie | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | Durchaus studiert, mit heißem Bemühn. | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | Da steh ich nun, ich armer Tor! | Dec 26 09:24 |
| scientes | This book should be taught more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel) | Dec 26 09:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Player Piano (novel) - Wikipedia | Dec 26 09:32 | |
| scientes | it is the origin of the English words "thingamajig" and "whatjamacallit" | Dec 26 09:33 |
| scientes | in terms of distopian books, 1984 and Brave New World get all the press | Dec 26 09:34 |
| scientes | oh wow, Around the World in Eighty Days was translated from French, I though it was in English.... | Dec 26 09:36 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Army, Updates and Reproducible Builds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118826 [https://pleroma.site/objects/01aa46a5-f754-4a88-94bb-1ff14b59e587] | Dec 26 09:42 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Ruby 2.6.0, LLVM and PyCoder’s Weekly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118828 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d558180e-2c5a-4dec-aac9-6858093805ea] | Dec 26 10:06 | |
| oiaohm | https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46674706 Hmm | Dec 26 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hot tub hack reveals washed-up security protection - BBC News | Dec 26 10:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Search in Multiple Places Simultaneously on GNU/Linux with Krusader and PCManFM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118829 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca89a328-cafc-4b84-a62b-a1b28f5bd443] | Dec 26 10:49 | |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: ping | Dec 26 15:25 |
| schestowitz | is it possible we need to allocate fewer cores for both VMs to boot? | Dec 26 15:26 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121252 | Dec 26 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 16:52 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121151 | Dec 26 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 17:00 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #NVIDIA Jetson AGX Xavier #Benchmarks - Incredible Performance On The Edge http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118832 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7b8eec51-04e0-467f-8778-711dc2fc654d] | Dec 26 17:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Plasma secrets: Make Kate more productive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118833 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c78da67a-5efc-4b82-9d1e-74202eea446f] | Dec 26 17:13 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Desktop: Debian Testing Reviewed, More of That 'Year of the Linux Desktop’ Nonsense, and 'An Open Source Desktop For The Community' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118835 [https://pleroma.site/objects/78e1d1bf-4ccc-468a-8491-70cbfa511809] | Dec 26 17:17 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118834 [https://pleroma.site/objects/83fc1ece-07bb-4400-9a5a-6e7252ef2bc8] | Dec 26 17:19 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1812110 | Dec 26 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 17:19 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Seems fake | Dec 26 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | though maybe the "vandal" removed the paint badly | Dec 26 17:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what is this damaged vessel? | Dec 26 17:24 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Dec 26 17:25 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #LibreOffice 6.2 RC1 ready for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118836 [https://pleroma.site/objects/687e89e7-550a-49a9-8d50-78b5be3a1341] | Dec 26 17:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Five Trends Influencing Linux's Growth at the Endpoint http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118837 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ccfdfd5-b41d-456a-8925-a675e1cca06a] | Dec 26 17:47 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #FreeSync Support Lands In Linux 4.21 With Other DRM Updates In Christmas Day Merge http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118838 [https://pleroma.site/objects/18c634a6-499f-45e1-b7d4-39afebf68d22] | Dec 26 17:52 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/dhACiJD.gif | Dec 26 17:52 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: no | Dec 26 17:56 |
| schestowitz | tessier wants us to switch over soon, I think I can update DNS once we're up with both VMs :-) :-) | Dec 26 17:57 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: wife helping me test the web/use end of tuxmachines just to ensure it's all identical | Dec 26 17:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have a really bad cold. | Dec 26 18:08 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Best Lightweight Linux Distros For Old Computers | 2019 Edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118839 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6c2ce3c8-b1ae-47bb-a2e6-947cd50799af] | Dec 26 18:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course the upside is I hate my neighbors so I blew my nose on my hand and then wiped it all over the doorknobs. | Dec 26 18:09 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/bmdWsGZ.jpg | Dec 26 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: can you try the kernel flag edd=of? | Dec 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz | *off | Dec 26 18:28 |
| kaniini | you can do it via the vnc | Dec 26 18:29 |
| kaniini | /etc/conf.d/qemu.techrights | Dec 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | ok, cheers | Dec 26 18:29 |
| kaniini | shows which vnc screen it is | Dec 26 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | the vnc for techrights is just hung on the error | Dec 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz | so I can use the hypervisor over ssh | Dec 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I tried passing as an argument to qemu | Dec 26 18:30 |
| schestowitz | # Any additional arguments to be passed to qemu-system-x86_64 command. | Dec 26 18:34 |
| schestowitz | # extra_args="linux edd=off" | Dec 26 18:34 |
| schestowitz | it throws an error as I think the only way is to get to /boot on the logical volume | Dec 26 18:35 |
| schestowitz | (which I don't know how to access directly from, the hypervisor, sorry kaniini ) | Dec 26 18:35 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/568301.jpg | Dec 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | anyone here good at qemu and can help us set up the new VM? | Dec 26 18:46 |
| schestowitz | strange thing is, it used to boot OK | Dec 26 18:48 |
| schestowitz | qemu-system-x86_64: -device scsi-hd,drive=hd0,scsi-id=0: Could not open 'edd=off': No such file or directory | Dec 26 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | does anyone know if qemu can let me enter logical volumes? | Dec 26 18:54 |
| schestowitz | directly into the filesystem? | Dec 26 18:54 |
| schestowitz | seems like a common problem http://www.google.com/search?q=qemu+edd+disable&hl=en-GB&gbv=2&oq=qemu+edd+disable&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...138760.144494.0.144669.35.11.8.16.0.0.217.1405.0j10j1.11.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..24.11.836.gdA7Uq81nac | Dec 26 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qemu edd disable - Google Search | Dec 26 18:56 | |
| schestowitz | they all suggest changing the boot/grub lines, but I cannot access the VM directly to do this | Dec 26 18:57 |
| kaniini | you have to go into the grub prompt | Dec 26 18:57 |
| kaniini | via the VNC console | Dec 26 18:57 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see | Dec 26 18:58 |
| schestowitz | like when I boot it? | Dec 26 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I cannot log in fast enough to see grub | Dec 26 18:59 |
| schestowitz | I could see it with tuxmachines (finnix) | Dec 26 18:59 |
| schestowitz | when I enter the password to enter techrights it's already hung after that edd thing | Dec 26 18:59 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: I've tried function keys, tty hotkeys etc. let me see if I can reboot it and access vnc even faster | Dec 26 19:00 |
| kaniini | maybe we could try to boot | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | into finnix | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | and change it that way | Dec 26 19:01 |
| schestowitz | that would be good, thank you, kaniini | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | ok | Dec 26 19:01 |
| schestowitz | tessier wants to shut down his DC soon | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | i'll work on it in a bit | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | yeah | Dec 26 19:01 |
| kaniini | np | Dec 26 19:01 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate, appreciated a lot | Dec 26 19:02 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I expected jumper cables. | Dec 26 20:20 |
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| MinceR | :) | Dec 26 20:21 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/O3qU4UD.gifv | Dec 26 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 26 21:10 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 22:34 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17112942 https://ircz.de/p/17111226 | Dec 26 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 23:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 26 23:40 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1712186 | Dec 27 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 27 00:23 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 27 00:46 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17121645 | Dec 27 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 27 01:08 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/b5zX0ZL.jpg | Dec 27 01:29 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17121640 | Dec 27 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 27 02:06 | |
| acer-box____ | https://www.revealnews.org/article/for-people-of-color-banks-are-shutting-the-door-to-homeownership/ | Dec 27 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.revealnews.org | Racial discrimination: Banks are shutting door to homeownershipReveal | Dec 27 03:30 | |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: good morning | Dec 27 12:10 |
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| MinceR | (audio) https://imgur.com/gallery/qYPDmod | Dec 27 15:51 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The motherboard isn't inside the computer, the computer is the processor, so it is inside the motherboard. | Dec 27 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | Granted that's more stretched as it's more like the whole thing is like a human brain. | Dec 27 16:08 |
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| MinceR | XRevan86: the human brain is a lot more than just a processor | Dec 27 16:16 |
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| XRevan86 | Ugh, it's holiday season and I still haven't picked myself a new laptop. | Dec 27 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | I'm discouraged by the level of complexity and margin for failure | Dec 27 16:19 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/QG1OB2y.gifv | Dec 27 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Comfy kitties nap time. | Dec 27 17:15 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/567362.jpg | Dec 27 18:09 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: ping? | Dec 27 18:15 |
| kaniini | hi | Dec 27 18:19 |
| kaniini | i'll try to get techrights into finnix asap | Dec 27 18:19 |
| *XRevan86 looks at the calendar | Dec 27 18:25 | |
| *XRevan86 forgot to post https://youtu.be/nranUeNkXpM %) | Dec 27 18:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"CHRISTMAS IS HERE!" — A Bad Lip Reading of Donald Trump - YouTube | Dec 27 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: cheers mate! | Dec 27 18:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: those are always funny (their videos) | Dec 27 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I like their songs | Dec 27 18:52 |
| schestowitz | this one isn't so funny | Dec 27 18:53 |
| schestowitz | at least it's only 2 minuted | Dec 27 18:53 |
| schestowitz | at least it's only 2 minutes | Dec 27 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | * 2:28 minutes | Dec 27 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | http://cs4.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2015-02_6/14250746785769.jpg | Dec 27 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | (the drug article of the RF law, works like "4:20" I guess) | Dec 27 18:56 |
| XRevan86 | http://www.doodoo.ru/uploads/posts/2012-05/228-01.jpg | Dec 27 18:56 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/567251.jpg | Dec 27 21:51 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/567147.png | Dec 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18122038 | Dec 27 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 27 22:40 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/5Vst3Uv.gifv | Dec 27 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Why not ? | Dec 27 23:02 | |
| XRevan86 | Russia | Dec 27 23:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 27 23:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I found the European releases of the Talking Heads stuff. The original CDs. | Dec 28 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is what should have been released as "Brick". | Dec 28 00:04 |
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| XRevan86 | > technically, pleroma uses the activitypub c2s protocol internally. we would expose it to the outside if people actually had clients for it. | Dec 28 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: And AndStatus is seeking a server for it | Dec 28 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | IIRC, AP C2S is in the works there. | Dec 28 00:20 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: unfortunately that's not enough for me to care | Dec 28 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: eh | Dec 28 00:20 |
| kaniini | one mobile client which cannot do anything with it that they wouldnt be able to do with the other APIs we support | Dec 28 00:21 |
| kaniini | there needs to be a compelling usecase | Dec 28 00:21 |
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| MinceR | inb4 "we'd write a client for it if it was exposed" | Dec 28 01:12 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17121611 | Dec 28 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 01:16 | |
| schestowitz | lucky for him rater | Dec 28 01:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: could be worse... he could identity as an attack helicopter | Dec 28 01:22 |
| MinceR | she wouldn't let an attack helicopter frisk her | Dec 28 01:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, trust me, she will! | Dec 28 01:28 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Patching Qt5Network for Christmas http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118880 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d58446b5-9a28-4860-bbb1-f96624e9e5e0] | Dec 28 02:04 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17121132 | Dec 28 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 02:26 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: oddly enough meduza started giving stories in Russian, not English | Dec 28 02:42 |
| schestowitz | same RSS feed | Dec 28 02:42 |
| schestowitz | now only Russian, maybe an accident | Dec 28 02:43 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1712096 | Dec 28 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 02:51 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18121759 | Dec 28 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 15:14 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17120641 | Dec 28 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 15:24 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17120516 | Dec 28 15:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 15:58 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: ping? | Dec 28 16:30 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/567201 | Dec 28 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Mom told me not to send the "dragon eating little girl" sticker again. | Dec 28 16:35 | |
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| schestowitz | the background kind of changes things | Dec 28 16:45 |
| schestowitz | but maybe I'm not getting the point of the joke, MinceR | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | the dark background turns the partial cookie into a little girl's head | Dec 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I saw t hat | Dec 28 16:47 |
| schestowitz | is there more to the joke though? | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | no | Dec 28 16:47 |
| schestowitz | I thought maybe "dark mode" | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 28 16:48 |
| schestowitz | as in, mom sees it differently on her radar ('phone') | Dec 28 16:48 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the rss feed went bonkers for meduza | Dec 28 16:51 |
| schestowitz | yesterday it became all Russian, with like two dozen stories a day | Dec 28 16:51 |
| schestowitz | did they quit doing English? I didn't change the URL. | Dec 28 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/rss/en/all I see Russian here indeed | Dec 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz | All Russian | Dec 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz | no exception | Dec 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz | I could do with mix | Dec 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz | but if it's all Russian I can't even read the letters | Dec 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz | unlike say French or German, which I can pick in small bits | Dec 28 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | Thanks goodness for https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/rsspreview | Dec 28 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | RSSPreview – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US) | Dec 28 16:53 | |
| schestowitz | It lasted in English for like a week and I was happy | Dec 28 16:53 |
| schestowitz | https://meduza.io/games/sdelat-seychas-ili-otlozhit-na-potom-proveryaem-naskolko-vy-reshitelny-test | Dec 28 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Dec 28 16:53 | |
| XRevan86 | sponsored material | Dec 28 16:54 |
| schestowitz | will it change back to English? | Dec 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz | it flooded my feeds, they do dozens of stories a day and it's all Russian now | Dec 28 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm thinking of the best way to contact them | Dec 28 16:58 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: for now I'm deleting the feed, it's taking over my rss client, makes me look like some spy :-) | Dec 28 16:59 |
| schestowitz | BTW, some Russian 'nationalists' complained that I was linking to this site | Dec 28 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: hah | Dec 28 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Can you show how? :) | Dec 28 17:01 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder what is their exact reasoning | Dec 28 17:01 |
| schestowitz | not good for Russia | Dec 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Or | Dec 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Other countries too | Dec 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz | i.e. the hypocrisy card | Dec 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Russia and China both use this propaganda pattern | Dec 28 17:03 |
| schestowitz | and scripted questions in press events | Dec 28 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It takes a critical look on Russian politicians thus it is invalid? | Dec 28 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: apparently | Dec 28 17:44 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a typical United Russia position that criticism is destabilising and unpatriotic | Dec 28 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This shows from the way media is right now in Russia. Every controversy will be bottled up to maintain the illusion of bliss. | Dec 28 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | I cannot think of a better idea, so I'll just write to reports@ of Meduza %) | Dec 28 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | Done, the email has been sent. | Dec 28 17:55 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And it's not even whistleblowing, it's just uncomfortable news. | Dec 28 18:03 |
| XRevan86 | The whole Russia is like one big state secret | Dec 28 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | seems so, XRevan86 | Dec 28 18:18 |
| schestowitz | that's why I wanted Meduza back | Dec 28 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Western media doesn't seem too credible on Russia most of the time | Dec 28 18:18 |
| schestowitz | reporters repeat one another with dubious claims, not people reporting from within | Dec 28 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't think western media actually cares, hence the result. | Dec 28 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | Don't want to show what Russia is like but paint Russia in some way for their agenda. | Dec 28 18:22 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17102216 | Dec 28 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 28 18:22 | |
| XRevan86 | $ echo $USER | Dec 28 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | user | Dec 28 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | Rich fantasy, yes. | Dec 28 18:23 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~$ echo $USSR | Dec 28 18:29 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~$ | Dec 28 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | yeltsin@ted:~$ unset USSR | Dec 28 18:30 |
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| MinceR | :) | Dec 28 18:42 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/567137.jpg | Dec 28 18:47 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter if it vibrates when you're impotent | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | better get an orgasm watching old tapes of Steve Jobs, not some wireless 'i' thing up the arse | Dec 28 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | I think this is an homage to https://youtu.be/y-bYSC6OT6s | Dec 28 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rectal Computer - YouTube | Dec 28 18:53 | |
| schestowitz | #apple cultists were fooled not only into installing #listeningDevices for #amazon but also using the 'wrong' software for these (not shipping the audio to the Pentagon' s tentacles as intended) https://fossbytes.com/this-fake-amazon-alexa-setup-app-was-fooling-ios-users/ | Dec 28 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com | This Fake Amazon Alexa Setup App Was Fooling iOS Users | Dec 28 18:54 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This probably wouldn't've been news if Apple didn't have tyrannical policies for their App Store | Dec 28 18:56 |
| XRevan86 | A lot of good stuff cannot get through, but this has | Dec 28 18:57 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chat with your friends on top of Matrix engine http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/118908 #ubports #ubuntu #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/8de416d5-76b1-420e-8cbc-0f12643b176d] | Dec 28 19:02 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/wFGmV0P.gifv | Dec 28 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 28 20:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 28 20:30 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/gnQ2oqA.jpg | Dec 28 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | What to do if I want to sit in my chair next to the computer, but there is already a cat relaxing there? | Dec 28 21:29 |
| MinceR | pick up the cat, sit on the chair, put the cat down again | Dec 28 21:41 |
| MinceR | or use another chair | Dec 28 21:41 |
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| cubexyz | interesting story about the demise of sears... read up on eddie lampert | Dec 28 23:12 |
| cubexyz | people call him a "vulture capitalist" | Dec 28 23:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 00:54 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: I was hoping to finish the migration by weekend's end. Should be possible if we can just power on techrights in the new DC. | Dec 29 02:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Phoronix ran some new benchmarks. Shows that almost all apps compiled with the GCC 9 branch are performing better. | Dec 29 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some significantly so. | Dec 29 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LAME does well with it. | Dec 29 05:11 |
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| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvCGqhShNnk | Dec 29 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Wearable Computer Also Sucks Your Dick - YouTube | Dec 29 05:29 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, like that? | Dec 29 05:34 |
| schestowitz | And one more: | Dec 29 05:37 |
| schestowitz | https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2018/Fahrplan/events/9410.html | Dec 29 05:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fahrplan.events.ccc.de | Lecture: LibreSilicon | Thursday | Schedule 35th Chaos Communication Congress | Dec 29 05:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I didn't see the results, but we linked to the article | Dec 29 05:38 |
| schestowitz | wife did anyway | Dec 29 05:38 |
| scientes | holy moley schestowitz | Dec 29 05:38 |
| scientes | thats pretty bad-ass | Dec 29 05:38 |
| scientes | 1µm | Dec 29 05:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: your hometown was in the news the other day | Dec 29 05:38 |
| schestowitz | huntington | Dec 29 05:38 |
| scientes | 8086 was 3 um | Dec 29 05:39 |
| schestowitz | see risvc | Dec 29 05:39 |
| schestowitz | I never explored it directly | Dec 29 05:39 |
| schestowitz | I hope we'll to do hardware what we did to software | Dec 29 05:39 |
| scientes | meh, chinese model for hardware is working quite well | Dec 29 05:40 |
| scientes | much better than every open hardware attempt yet | Dec 29 05:40 |
| scientes | damn the 386 was 1.5 or 1 um | Dec 29 05:40 |
| scientes | so yeah that is doable | Dec 29 05:41 |
| scientes | and even 486 was done at 1 um | Dec 29 05:41 |
| scientes | schestowitz, there is also j-core | Dec 29 05:42 |
| scientes | i always felt j-core was the way to do it---much as all the companies are making their own arm64 chips | Dec 29 05:42 |
| scientes | there is also the propritary mill cpu | Dec 29 05:43 |
| scientes | which look promising on betting more efficient | Dec 29 05:43 |
| schestowitz | There's a new article about this... | Dec 29 05:56 |
| schestowitz | https://technode.com/2018/12/20/china-global-tech-game-advantage/ | Dec 29 05:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China looks to private capital, open source technology for global tech game advantage · TechNode | Dec 29 05:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How-To_Geek | Dec 29 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | How-To Geek - Wikipedia | Dec 29 06:24 | |
| schestowitz | "How-To Geek is an online technology magazine founded by Lowell Heddings in 2007. On January 1, 2015, Whitson Gordon replaced Lowell Heddings as editor-in-chief" | Dec 29 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Interesting | Dec 29 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Alexa rankIncrease 941 (May 2018) | Dec 29 06:24 |
| schestowitz | https://www.howtogeek.com/235372/with-1-billion-views-so-far-were-moving-how-to-geek-forward/ | Dec 29 06:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | With 1 Billion Views So Far, We’re Moving How-To Geek Forward | Dec 29 06:25 | |
| schestowitz | "Many months went by where I worked 20+ hours each day, writing articles before going to my day job, and then staying up all night long writing articles. " | Dec 29 06:26 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: | Dec 29 07:53 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~$ whois pleroma.site | Dec 29 07:53 |
| schestowitz | Domain Name: PLEROMA.SITE | Dec 29 07:53 |
| schestowitz | roy@ted:~$ whois pleroma.site | Dec 29 07:53 |
| schestowitz | Domain Name: PLEROMA.SITE | Dec 29 07:53 |
| schestowitz | this lists AWS as nameservers | Dec 29 07:54 |
| schestowitz | which nameserver would be best to use for tuxmachines? I went to try sending the traffic to the new server later today | Dec 29 07:54 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: disregard what I wrote above, I've used my Webhost (for my personal site) to manage DNS/nameservers | Dec 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: tuxmachines now running very successfully on the server you kindly donated | Dec 29 11:18 |
| schestowitz | tessier: tuxmachines has been moved over successfully. techrights will be next. I've also unhooked tuxmachines from your DNS servers. | Dec 29 11:39 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: I need urgent help | Dec 29 14:56 |
| schestowitz | the site is now live on the new box, but it froze (the VM, I had to restart it) | Dec 29 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | ah, I fixed it, kaniini, it's back online | Dec 29 15:00 |
| schestowitz | turns out I need to get around the finnix boot menu, or let a minute pass until it gets to the right boot option | Dec 29 15:00 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5QkM2Work0 | Dec 29 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stanford Seminar - An Alternative to the American way of Innovation - YouTube | Dec 29 16:35 | |
| scientes | schestowitz, the news is useless when the action is happening in a foreign language | Dec 29 16:35 |
| scientes | here is a chinese-speaker that actually went there | Dec 29 16:36 |
| scientes | and actually does business there | Dec 29 16:36 |
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| scientes | the british/american empire is dead, and with it, English language dominance | Dec 29 16:37 |
| scientes | as Issac Asimov put it, it is hard for a 2nd language to persist unless it is an empire (he was talking about Latin), because the women actually speak the local language, and who would go their whole life without ever talking to a woman | Dec 29 16:38 |
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| scientes | that is why we need to work on Unspell now (alternate orthography for English to make it easier) | Dec 29 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | As a speaker of English as a second language… | Dec 29 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | Like I said before, it is the phonetic diversity that gets me (and native speakers alike) | Dec 29 16:41 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1712043 | Dec 29 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 16:41 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, I remember elementary school, endlessly memorizing spellings | Dec 29 16:41 |
| scientes | like they're, their, there; and witch which | Dec 29 16:41 |
| scientes | and funky spellings like "cellO" (I play the CHELO) | Dec 29 16:42 |
| scientes | or violinchello | Dec 29 16:42 |
| scientes | it is almost as bad as what Chinese students go through, and China is the only country when almost everyone knows their "chinese language ability" as determined by a standardized test | Dec 29 16:43 |
| scientes | every country with phonetic alphabet it is just "literate/non-literate" | Dec 29 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Ukraine has a phonetic alphabet, and its level of literacy is lower than, say, in Russia | Dec 29 16:44 |
| scientes | and the chinese facebook (WeChat) had to add a voice message feature because of rural un-literate people | Dec 29 16:44 |
| scientes | that's cause the language is useless | Dec 29 16:44 |
| scientes | just like no-one writes down non-modern standard arabic | Dec 29 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Because their dialectal diversity is higher than in Russia (I think), but the acceptable boundaries of the standard language are on the contrary, lower. | Dec 29 16:45 |
| scientes | and with unspell, Dmitry Orlov's plan was to write a computer program that can convert from English to Unspell and visa-versa | Dec 29 16:45 |
| scientes | he's working on another project, but this doesn't require much funding to get done | Dec 29 16:46 |
| MinceR | "cello" is from italian, is it not? | Dec 29 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | Ukrainian is like a spectrum from more influenced by Polish (in the West) and more influenced by (Great) Russian (in the East) | Dec 29 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | and the standard language is somewhere in the middle (but more Eastern) | Dec 29 16:47 |
| scientes | XRevan86, what do you mean by (Great)? Is that like high-German? | Dec 29 16:47 |
| scientes | which is the official German | Dec 29 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That's one way of distinguishing kinds of eastern slavic languages | Dec 29 16:49 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17120134 | Dec 29 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 16:49 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "Great" here means "Big" (because it's the same way in Russian) | Dec 29 16:50 |
| scientes | ahh ok | Dec 29 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Great_Russians_in_Russian_Empire_by_region_1897.png | Dec 29 16:51 |
| scientes | but there are also intuit living up in siberia? | Dec 29 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | In modern times Great Russians self-identify as just Russians, so it's kind of archaic. | Dec 29 16:52 |
| MinceR | they're not that great anyway :> | Dec 29 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | but Ukrainian and Polish have a distinction (albeit based on the work Rossia) | Dec 29 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | * on the word | Dec 29 16:53 |
| scientes | still seems like Ukranian is a pidgin | Dec 29 16:53 |
| scientes | Polish is a language with a rich history, but not considered very highly. | Dec 29 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, it's definitely not a pidgin | Dec 29 16:54 |
| scientes | oh there is a difference between pidgin and creole | Dec 29 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | The development of Ukrainian was gradual, always with native speakers | Dec 29 16:56 |
| scientes | similar to the development of romance language | Dec 29 16:57 |
| scientes | *languages | Dec 29 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | Old Russian (East Slavic) → West Russian (or Russian spoken in the Great Duchy of Lithuania) → Ukrainian | Dec 29 16:57 |
| scientes | and has there been a purge of French words from Russian? | Dec 29 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: no | Dec 29 16:58 |
| scientes | (granted, I don't know what I am talking about) | Dec 29 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Maybe you're thinking of a purge of Slavic words from Romanian :) | Dec 29 16:58 |
| scientes | like I know that Turkish has a purge of Arabic words | Dec 29 16:59 |
| scientes | and the French are of course very proud of their language as declare that "blog" should not be a French word (lol) | Dec 29 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: In IT of Russia and Ukraine the amount of English loanwords is starting to become annoying. | Dec 29 17:00 |
| scientes | the Norman invasion has a huge influence on English, so I just assumed it would on Russian | Dec 29 17:00 |
| scientes | XRevan86, even the Chinese are using them | Dec 29 17:00 |
| scientes | or at least when they speak english | Dec 29 17:02 |
| scientes | they say "it is a bug, not a feature | Dec 29 17:02 |
| scientes | it is a feature, not a bug | Dec 29 17:02 |
| scientes | the chinese also really like game theory | Dec 29 17:03 |
| scientes | win-win, blah blah | Dec 29 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | I don't mean words like "blog", but words like "pointer", "string", etc. | Dec 29 17:03 |
| scientes | mouse | Dec 29 17:03 |
| scientes | oh of course | Dec 29 17:03 |
| scientes | because English is the language of programming | Dec 29 17:03 |
| scientes | (not that it has to be-----TAoCP was translated into Russian) | Dec 29 17:04 |
| scientes | but there are practically reasons for it | Dec 29 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Russian as a language for programming is terrible | Dec 29 17:04 |
| scientes | and ruby and zig, and many other languages use English keywords | Dec 29 17:04 |
| scientes | and many languages can't handle non-ASCII as well | Dec 29 17:04 |
| scientes | not to mention they will probably never be able to handle right-to-left languages | Dec 29 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | English's lack of inflections makes it well-suited for programming | Dec 29 17:05 |
| scientes | it is just much more practical to use a single language for programming | Dec 29 17:05 |
| scientes | and yeah I guess English, which doesn't have gender suffixes like Spanish for example, is more suited | Dec 29 17:06 |
| scientes | "string" may be an English word, but it is hardly English p.luckyretail.com/Uploadfile/20160620/068455A4/068455A4.jpg | Dec 29 17:09 |
| scientes | these are technical words | Dec 29 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | https://video-kursov.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/programmirovanie-v-1C-Predpriyatie-8.2-2.jpg | Dec 29 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | 1C uses Russian for its programming language. | Dec 29 17:10 |
| scientes | wow! not a single latin character | Dec 29 17:10 |
| scientes | what language is that? | Dec 29 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | The embedded language of 1C:Enterprise | Dec 29 17:11 |
| scientes | oh in the bottom-right | Dec 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | 29 180958 <+XRevan86> https://video-kursov.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/programmirovanie-v-1C-Predpriyatie-8.2-2.jpg | Dec 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | ew | Dec 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | that's even worse than pascal | Dec 29 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | It feels Pascal-influenced (: | Dec 29 17:12 |
| scientes | the lack of braces is ugly certainly | Dec 29 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | though Wikipedia says it's Visual Basic influened actually | Dec 29 17:12 |
| MinceR | that's about as horrible | Dec 29 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | probably more | Dec 29 17:12 |
| MinceR | they could have gone whole hog and translated cobol into russian instead | Dec 29 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | "Каждый" → "Для Каждого" | Dec 29 17:13 |
| scientes | or just used a language that doesn't require English keywords like perl | Dec 29 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | a good example of an inflection | Dec 29 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | Цикл → КонецЦикла | Dec 29 17:13 |
| MinceR | maybe even banned mathematical formulae, forcing the ADD A TO B GIVING C style stuff instead :> | Dec 29 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | makes it harder to use words as blocks | Dec 29 17:13 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17120130 | Dec 29 17:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 17:14 | |
| scientes | the english keyword thing is so engrained that even Ruby does it, despite being developed and created in Japan | Dec 29 17:14 |
| scientes | although they kinda had to, because this was before UTF-8 | Dec 29 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | Compared to Japanese issues with Russian are nothing :) | Dec 29 17:15 |
| scientes | and ruby really likes english keywords too (much more than a c-style language) | Dec 29 17:16 |
| scientes | do end | Dec 29 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | Compare to Python | Dec 29 17:17 |
| scientes | I really like the zig language, but it will be a shame when the US economy collapses.... | Dec 29 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Don't worry, English isn't going anywhere. | Dec 29 17:18 |
| scientes | cause I ended up mostly in C because the problems of other languages | Dec 29 17:18 |
| scientes | and zig is striving to be a better C | Dec 29 17:19 |
| scientes | no, I am saying development will stop and zig language will die | Dec 29 17:19 |
| scientes | I'm waiting for my passport | Dec 29 17:19 |
| scientes | I am probably going to go to Panama | Dec 29 17:19 |
| scientes | I need to get out of the US | Dec 29 17:19 |
| scientes | schestowitz, is this channel still logged? | Dec 29 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: yes | Dec 29 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What a great place to criticise your own government (: | Dec 29 17:21 |
| scientes | no, there is no risk in that | Dec 29 17:21 |
| scientes | talking to some chinese people on the web, I realized I needed to learn that skill (of not criticizing the government) | Dec 29 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | The logs are searchable too | Dec 29 17:22 |
| scientes | of course they are | Dec 29 17:22 |
| scientes | even the propaganda of the US openly criticizes the government | Dec 29 17:23 |
| scientes | I think the best description of the US economy is that it is a pyramid scheme based on oil | Dec 29 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: At least you have a pyramid | Dec 29 17:24 |
| scientes | and that would explain why criticism is OK (as long as you aren't subverting the pyramid scheme) | Dec 29 17:24 |
| scientes | well politics does wash that money around quite a bit | Dec 29 17:24 |
| scientes | particularly the minimum wage | Dec 29 17:24 |
| scientes | and a big reason for that politics, historicall, was the existance of the USSR | Dec 29 17:25 |
| scientes | I just bought a bunch of winter camping gear---I am going to do a week or so out in the snow | Dec 29 17:27 |
| scientes | I was told i needed showshoes and that like doubled my expense of the trip | Dec 29 17:27 |
| scientes | I am still not sure if I can find liquid water, or if i need to bring a stove | Dec 29 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | Stats of Russian petrol prices: https://www.autostat.ru/application/includes/blocks/big_photo/images/cache/000/057/267/7d6507c3-670-0.jpg?_=1533021019 | Dec 29 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | http://grosh-blog.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85-%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BD-2.jpg | Dec 29 17:29 |
| scientes | 45.2 cents/litre? | Dec 29 17:29 |
| scientes | or is that rouples? | Dec 29 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | it's roubles | Dec 29 17:29 |
| scientes | oh that is not expensive | Dec 29 17:30 |
| scientes | want me to walk outside and get the price? | Dec 29 17:30 |
| scientes | europe is MUCH more expensive | Dec 29 17:30 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e29Bbyu4fI | Dec 29 17:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yellow Vests – 6th round: Tear gas, water canons deployed at protest in Paris - YouTube | Dec 29 17:31 | |
| scientes | also https://theintercept.com/2018/06/05/brazil-truckers-strike/ | Dec 29 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Brazil Truckers' Strike Exposes Political Chaos as Elections Near | Dec 29 17:32 | |
| scientes | both over fuel prices | Dec 29 17:32 |
| scientes | I don't drive | Dec 29 17:32 |
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| XRevan86 | A second, I'm trying to figure out how they call AI-95 in the US | Dec 29 17:32 |
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| scientes | is that 95 octane petrol? | Dec 29 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | yes | Dec 29 17:35 |
| scientes | (R+M)/2 | Dec 29 17:35 |
| scientes | there are many ways to measure octane, but (R+M)/2 is the only legal way in the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating | Dec 29 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Octane rating - Wikipedia | Dec 29 17:36 | |
| XRevan86 | the commonly used in Russia are AI-92, AI-95, AI-98 | Dec 29 17:36 |
| scientes | XRevan86, it is differn't in every state here | Dec 29 17:36 |
| scientes | the highly altitude and more rural states use lower octane | Dec 29 17:36 |
| scientes | also the US has some triethyl lead pollution | Dec 29 17:37 |
| scientes | (I am not sure why, as there was always plentiful oil----you only need triethyl lead when you make oil from coal....) | Dec 29 17:38 |
| scientes | as the Germans had to do during WW2 | Dec 29 17:38 |
| MinceR | because extra pollution is the conservative way | Dec 29 17:38 |
| MinceR | like rolling coal | Dec 29 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Apparently AI is RON | Dec 29 17:39 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ADbUZZh.gifv | Dec 29 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Dec 29 17:40 | |
| XRevan86 | yes, it is RON | Dec 29 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That price was for RON-95 or AKI-90 | Dec 29 17:41 |
| scientes | also the vast majority of gasoline in the US 15% ethanol | Dec 29 17:41 |
| scientes | because of that the Russian gasoline is superior | Dec 29 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | Right now it costs 45.7 roubles/litre or 65 cents/litre | Dec 29 17:42 |
| scientes | its a giant boon-doggle for the corn farmers | Dec 29 17:42 |
| scientes | well actually monsanto and cargill | Dec 29 17:42 |
| scientes | XRevan86, we sell petrol in gallons | Dec 29 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | RON-92 or AKI-88 right now costs 42.14 roubles/litre or 60 cents/litre | Dec 29 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: sucks to be you :P | Dec 29 17:43 |
| scientes | its not the price that collapses the economy however | Dec 29 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | (kidding) | Dec 29 17:44 |
| scientes | its when the price goes up and down | Dec 29 17:44 |
| scientes | and the percentage of costs that are energy | Dec 29 17:44 |
| scientes | I think gasoline should be much more expensive | Dec 29 17:45 |
| scientes | so that the taxes can actually pay the cost of the roads | Dec 29 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | meanwhile I'm looking for the average price of petrol in the US | Dec 29 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | (for AKI-88) | Dec 29 17:46 |
| *scientes is panting | Dec 29 17:48 | |
| scientes | just went outside---i have a gasstation 2 blocks away | Dec 29 17:48 |
| scientes | 3.19/gallon | Dec 29 17:48 |
| scientes | but that is 15% ethanol, so it is ever more expensive | Dec 29 17:48 |
| scientes | I think that is 85 octane, but that is just a guess | Dec 29 17:49 |
| scientes | oh, washington minimum octane is now 87 | Dec 29 17:49 |
| XRevan86 | I assume RON-92 is like Regular, RON-95 is like Midgrade and RON-98 is like Premium | Dec 29 17:50 |
| scientes | XRevan86, it differs by state | Dec 29 17:50 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._State_Fuel_Octane_Standards | Dec 29 17:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | U.S. State Fuel Octane Standards - Wikipedia | Dec 29 17:50 | |
| scientes | but it is much higher than it use to be | Dec 29 17:51 |
| scientes | I went to yellowstone in a car, and you could get 81 in idaho, montana, and wyoming | Dec 29 17:51 |
| scientes | about 10 years ago | Dec 29 17:51 |
| scientes | ok, enthalpy of fusion of water 333.55 J/g, and propane has 50.33 MH/kg | Dec 29 17:53 |
| scientes | why such a stupid unit, MJ/kg----that is the same as KJ/g | Dec 29 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | kilogramme is the default unit, though %) | Dec 29 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | not gramme | Dec 29 17:54 |
| XRevan86 | gramme is kilogramme / 1000 | Dec 29 17:55 |
| scientes | well damn, propane has LOTS of energy | Dec 29 17:55 |
| scientes | i guess that is because it is using the heavy oxygen out of the air | Dec 29 17:55 |
| scientes | 150g of liquid water per gram of propane | Dec 29 17:55 |
| scientes | although that means i have to bring a metal water bottle too | Dec 29 17:58 |
| scientes | I just don't like going with too much crap | Dec 29 18:00 |
| scientes | and an oil lamp is too fagile | Dec 29 18:04 |
| scientes | i guess that is what use to be used | Dec 29 18:04 |
| scientes | also how do you up the burn rate of an oil lamp to actually melt a sizable amount of snow? | Dec 29 18:06 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/fb1Vv3F.jpg | Dec 29 18:20 |
| scientes | well i guess i am going to see what i can get at the thrift store | Dec 29 18:21 |
| scientes | I am not excited to carry fossil fuels on my trip | Dec 29 18:21 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/566759.jpg | Dec 29 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: tuxmachines VM forze again | Dec 29 19:28 |
| kaniini | i wonder if we can set up a watchdog | Dec 29 19:28 |
| schestowitz | on the vnc terminal it acted odd too, entering weird symbols when I typed | Dec 29 19:28 |
| kaniini | humm | Dec 29 19:28 |
| schestowitz | over ssh it just hunt after 4 hours and 13 mins uptime | Dec 29 19:29 |
| schestowitz | I rebooted and it's back to normal. It happened also 4 hours ago, hence the limited uptime | Dec 29 19:29 |
| schestowitz | prior to this, before shifting the site to the VM, there were no issues, so maybe server load plays a role | Dec 29 19:30 |
| kaniini | i don't think so | Dec 29 19:30 |
| kaniini | have you tried updating the tuxmachines kernel | Dec 29 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I'll check /var/log for clues again | Dec 29 19:30 |
| schestowitz | No, I haven't updates the machine | Dec 29 19:30 |
| schestowitz | *updated | Dec 29 19:30 |
| kaniini | yum -y update kernel i think | Dec 29 19:31 |
| kaniini | there's no major load on the server | Dec 29 19:31 |
| kaniini | 0.63 load average | Dec 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | yea, about a third of the traffic still goes to the old IP | Dec 29 19:32 |
| kaniini | 8.00 would be full load | Dec 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Installing: | Dec 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | kernel x86_64 2.6.32-696.6.3.el6 updates-copilotco 32 M | Dec 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Updating for dependencies: | Dec 29 19:32 |
| schestowitz | kernel-firmware noarch 2.6.32-696.6.3.el6 updates-copilotco 29 M | Dec 29 19:32 |
| kaniini | yeah | Dec 29 19:32 |
| kaniini | i feel like | Dec 29 19:32 |
| kaniini | perhaps the kernel on there | Dec 29 19:32 |
| kaniini | has problems with newer kvm | Dec 29 19:33 |
| kaniini | what i want to do is eventually redo the vms | Dec 29 19:33 |
| kaniini | as containers | Dec 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I need to change the repos | Dec 29 19:33 |
| kaniini | that way we can get off of IBM Hat | Dec 29 19:33 |
| kaniini | or whatever it is going to be called ;) | Dec 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | IBet | Dec 29 19:34 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/566420.jpg | Dec 29 19:40 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/8eZrXI5.gifv | Dec 29 20:57 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/566412.jpg | Dec 29 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, not the most. | Dec 29 21:20 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 29 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | http://epicpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Wonderful-face-swap.jpg for instance | Dec 29 21:21 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2mla5vErU | Dec 29 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smoke face swap snapchat - YouTube | Dec 29 21:22 | |
| XRevan86 | https://barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/nose-face-swap.jpg huh, a legit good design for a sci-fi alien | Dec 29 21:24 |
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| XRevan86 | ASUS Ziggurat? | Dec 29 22:34 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Dec 29 22:34 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/17113028 | Dec 29 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 29 23:45 | |
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