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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tiSgElTThSaSrrBuuLdBZWir > | Feb 24 02:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | (From a Facebook post.) ^ MinceR | Feb 24 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If IKEA taught us anything, it's that they're nuts! | Feb 24 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're standing there with a drill driver and some "instructions" that show stick figures doing.....something....there's always extra parts left over, and the beds and frames are not standard size. | Feb 24 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Living in Chicago is getting bad because of that. It's like, "Okay pal, take your Adidas and futbal and go yell at someone in Terrorist someplace else.". | Feb 24 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Chicago is so annoyingly politically correct that every time John makes an "offensive" joke about someone I say "John, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Chicago Verbal Morality Statute!". | Feb 24 02:18 |
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| AdmFubar | https://boingboing.net/2019/02/22/my-voice-is-my-passport-2.html | Feb 24 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | This is bad: the UAE's favorite sleazeball cybermercenaries have applied for permission to break Mozilla's web encryption / Boing Boing | Feb 24 02:49 | |
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| schestowitz | hmmm | Feb 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Techrights appearing in Google News and Google Alerts now :-) | Feb 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz | cool | Feb 24 04:20 |
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| schestowitz | battistelli | Feb 24 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Daily update ⋅ 24 February 2019 | Feb 24 04:20 |
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| schestowitz | VIDEO | Feb 24 04:20 |
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| schestowitz | Alexandre Benalla Speaks About His Relationship With Battistelli | Feb 24 04:21 |
| schestowitz | Techrights | Feb 24 04:21 |
| schestowitz | Battistelli as EPO President gave Benalla a lot of money, legitimised him, and gave him the go-ahead to illegally bring weapons to EPO premises; ... | Feb 24 04:21 |
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| schestowitz | [02:49] <AdmFubar> https://boingboing.net/2019/02/22/my-voice-is-my-passport-2.html | Feb 24 04:23 |
| schestowitz | this is already in daily links and in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121007 | Feb 24 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Certificates, Spectre, Switzerland and Dark Overlord | Tux Machines | Feb 24 04:23 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: really there has been a long list over the time of different CA sellling cybermercnaries wild card certificates. Maybe this that they are attempting for a normal CA include is that getting these is getting harder. | Feb 24 05:01 |
| schestowitz | Notice Mozilla's role, oiaohm | Feb 24 05:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2017/09/26/google-and-mozilla-deprecating-existing-symantec-certificates I have a longer time frame. | Feb 24 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qualys.com | Google and Mozilla are Deprecating Existing Symantec Certificates | Qualys Blog | Feb 24 05:17 | |
| oiaohm | Yes back before 2017 those cybermercnaries could use full wild card CA they bought from Symantec and they did. | Feb 24 05:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: this of cybermernaries attempting to get means to replaced content is nothing new. The fact they applied to be directly include in browser where there CA could be administartors be marked simply as untrusted is new. | Feb 24 05:19 |
| oiaohm | In the past is been what CA even a CA with possible a good name as sold master keys to these pains. | Feb 24 05:20 |
| oiaohm | DarkMatter was already given an "intermediate" certificate by another company, called QuoVadis, now owned by DigiCert. << This is still the right to do what every they like. | Feb 24 05:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.digicert.com/news/digicert-completes-acquisition-of-symantec-ssl/ That for those in the know. QuoVadis that is now DigiCert is the old symantec selling to cyber pests under a new companies. | Feb 24 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DigiCert Completes Acquisition of Symantec’s Website Security | Feb 24 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody ever really pointed out to me how horrible other white people are until I got with John and Austin and then I noticed it. Now I can't stand other white people. | Feb 24 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Can I help you find something." as-in "Are you shoplifting?". | Feb 24 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Never happened until I was around one of them. Now because one is black and the other is Hispanic it happens to me while I'm with one them. | Feb 24 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But not when it's just me in a store. | Feb 24 06:29 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks for the info | Feb 24 09:14 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: lol @ jetta | Feb 24 13:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAhR1MLGYNU | Feb 24 14:00 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: "Oh well, a wizard knows a time reversal spell" | Feb 24 14:34 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-02 | Feb 24 15:28 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-06 | Feb 24 19:15 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/baNAIYC | Feb 24 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I had to share this with you people - Album on Imgur | Feb 24 19:36 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 24 20:36 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/HxWITQH.gifv | Feb 24 20:54 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/581347.jpg | Feb 24 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Captain Picard in the episode Homeward: https://youtu.be/YFFo7xz69t0 | Feb 24 22:07 |
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| XRevan86 | full of strawpersons | Feb 24 22:07 |
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| scientes | why the hell does the us military internal websites use self-signed certificates? | Feb 25 01:33 |
| scientes | https://gps.afspc.af.mil/ | Feb 25 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://gps.afspc.af.mil/ ) | Feb 25 01:33 | |
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| schestowitz | scientes: they are the authority | Feb 25 03:32 |
| schestowitz | authority and world police | Feb 25 03:32 |
| scientes | yeah but i would assume they would have their own internal authority | Feb 25 03:32 |
| schestowitz | the Internet started in the US military | Feb 25 03:33 |
| schestowitz | so.... | Feb 25 03:33 |
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| MinceR | neither of my shitty excuses for browsers will let me see the certificates for that site | Feb 25 07:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Worked for me with Firefox. | Feb 25 07:20 |
| MinceR | not even failfox does it for me | Feb 25 07:21 |
| MinceR | for all this wanking about security, one would think such a critical security feature would be widely and easily available | Feb 25 07:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Press "Add exception…", then "Show…" | Feb 25 07:23 |
| *MinceR facepalms | Feb 25 07:23 | |
| MinceR | that works in palemoon, doesn't in crashium | Feb 25 07:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Click on the "Not secure" badge, then "Certificate" | Feb 25 07:26 |
| MinceR | in any case, there's no self-signed certificate in the path i get | Feb 25 07:27 |
| MinceR | their root CA is not known to my browsers, which doesn't seem so surprising | Feb 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | newscorp feeding an idiot | Feb 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/david-icke-how-the-worlds-greatest-conspiracy-theorist-discovered-his-personal-truth/news-story/1957dc4f70b3734747a9b0dc17b5c66f | Feb 25 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | David Icke interview: world’s greatest conspiracy theorist | Feb 25 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | don't click | Feb 25 07:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That sounds self-signed, no? | Feb 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | wtd has media become? | Feb 25 07:27 |
| MinceR | no | Feb 25 07:27 |
| MinceR | issuer and subject are not the same | Feb 25 07:27 |
| XRevan86 | "U.S. Government" | Feb 25 07:27 |
| schestowitz | USG, Inc. | Feb 25 07:28 |
| schestowitz | CEO Trump | Feb 25 07:28 |
| MinceR | that's only the O | Feb 25 07:28 |
| MinceR | in the CNs, i get "DoD Root CA 1" issuing a cert for "DOD ID SW CA-37" issuing a cert for "gcdsaf22.af.mil" | Feb 25 07:29 |
| XRevan86 | Still that's their own CA. | Feb 25 07:30 |
| MinceR | i can totally understand the DoD not relying on the public PKI and using their own infrastructure instead | Feb 25 07:31 |
| XRevan86 | "U.S. Government DoD PKI Root" | Feb 25 07:31 |
| MinceR | they probably don't want some random rogue CA help someone take over one of their sites | Feb 25 07:31 |
| XRevan86 | > world’s greatest conspiracy theorist | Feb 25 07:31 |
| XRevan86 | Ambitious. | Feb 25 07:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 25 07:31 |
| MinceR | obviously, all other candidates for the title are merely a conspiracy to depose him | Feb 25 07:32 |
| MinceR | > newscorp feeding an idiot | Feb 25 07:32 |
| MinceR | newscorp pointing and saying "see, we're not the greatest nutcases around!" | Feb 25 07:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ZOG and Big Pharma want their own puppet guy to take his place. | Feb 25 07:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 25 07:34 |
| XRevan86 | VPN-less I couldn't access the https://gps.afspc.af.mil/ | Feb 25 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gps.afspc.af.mil | NO TITLE | Feb 25 07:39 | |
| XRevan86 | One more Russian hacking attempt logged? :) | Feb 25 07:39 |
| schestowitz | lol | Feb 25 07:39 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/19/russia-moves-to-mask-soldiers-digital-trail-with-smartphone-ban | Feb 25 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Russia moves to mask its soldiers' digital trail with smartphone ban | World news | The Guardian | Feb 25 07:41 | |
| schestowitz | grauniad | Feb 25 07:41 |
| schestowitz | pusher of russophobia every day | Feb 25 07:41 |
| XRevan86 | > mask digital trail with ban | Feb 25 07:43 |
| XRevan86 | that's interesting wording | Feb 25 07:43 |
| schestowitz | https://www.coindesk.com/andreas-m-antonopoulos-warns-against-ethereum-community-in-fighting | Feb 25 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andreas M. Antonopoulos Warns Against Ethereum In-Fighting - CoinDesk | Feb 25 07:44 | |
| XRevan86 | about security… | Feb 25 07:45 |
| XRevan86 | > curl -kI https://gps.afspc.af.mil/ | Feb 25 07:45 |
| XRevan86 | > Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 | Feb 25 07:45 |
| XRevan86 | Windows Server 2003 | Feb 25 07:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-core-developer-quits-social-media-over-conflict-of-interest-attacks | Feb 25 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ethereum Core Developer Quits Over 'Conflict of Interest' Attacks - CoinDesk | Feb 25 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: don't worry, I'm sure they have the latest Service Pack :-) | Feb 25 07:48 |
| schestowitz | and they will shoot anyone who dares speak out about all their security icidents | Feb 25 07:48 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No doubt, they're professionals :) | Feb 25 07:49 |
| XRevan86 | Only unprofessional people try to hide IIS behind nginx, Apache httpd, H2O or Caddy, or at least mask the exact version used. | Feb 25 07:50 |
| XRevan86 | Professionals know: when Microsoft is on their side, nothing bad will happen to them | Feb 25 07:51 |
| schestowitz | When something bad happens, they Wanna Cry | Feb 25 07:51 |
| MinceR | 25 084521 <+XRevan86> > Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 | Feb 25 07:51 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 25 07:51 |
| MinceR | 'murukan engineering | Feb 25 07:52 |
| XRevan86 | > they probably don't want some random rogue CA help someone take over one of their sites | Feb 25 07:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I no longer think that's plausable | Feb 25 07:52 |
| MinceR | why? | Feb 25 07:52 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's not like they care about attack vectors | Feb 25 07:53 |
| MinceR | maybe the two decisions were made by different people | Feb 25 07:53 |
| XRevan86 | true | Feb 25 07:54 |
| XRevan86 | But then again, slapping nginx on top is not that hard to do. | Feb 25 07:57 |
| XRevan86 | It's possible that they have and just push the Server header through, but… why would anyone do that/ | Feb 25 07:58 |
| MinceR | throwing out the crap and running a unix webserver is even easier | Feb 25 07:59 |
| XRevan86 | thus I assume IIS 6.0 is looking into the nets unguarded | Feb 25 07:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It could be convoluted, who knows. | Feb 25 08:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I bet there's ASP.NET somewhere in this equation. | Feb 25 08:01 |
| MinceR | even though it shouldn't, as it's crap | Feb 25 08:01 |
| XRevan86 | Either way, I shouldn't've found out about their IIS 6.0 that easily. | Feb 25 08:03 |
| MinceR | maybe it's a red herring :> | Feb 25 08:03 |
| XRevan86 | more like a honeypot | Feb 25 08:05 |
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| schestowitz | Dafaqsdat? None in DC? | Feb 25 08:44 |
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| XRevan86 | cubexyz: The episode Genesis taught me that somewhere on the evolutionary stages of homo sapiens there were… arachnids. | Feb 25 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't know that. So much to learn. | Feb 25 21:51 |
| MinceR | LRH taught us that at another stage there were clams. | Feb 25 21:55 |
| MinceR | Poor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap! | Feb 25 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | Science! | Feb 25 21:56 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 25 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | https://i1.wp.com/www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/OnePunchMan.pic1_.Crabrante.jpg?resize=1200%2C676 a human meets his ancient ancestor | Feb 25 21:58 |
| MinceR | crab people, crab people. taste like crab, talk like people! | Feb 25 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | But don't eat people, regardless of how they taste like. | Feb 25 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | without their consent^U | Feb 25 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: That came awfully close to racism. | Feb 25 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now if you said fish people, like Adventure Time implied, that would be racist. | Feb 25 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | I think I'm missing some sociocultural context… | Feb 25 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: Asians. | Feb 25 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Because sushi and stuff? | Feb 25 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pendleton Ward managed to sneak in a lot of things that you'd never notice if you don't watch closely enough. | Feb 25 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, "fish heads". | Feb 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Racist term. | Feb 25 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | or if you simply had no idea | Feb 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Adventure Time had people who are part fish. | Feb 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It didn't come out and say it, but that's what it was getting at. | Feb 25 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many people probably never noticed. | Feb 25 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | > fish heads | Feb 25 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | What the actual fsck | Feb 25 22:18 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Still, it's possible this is just a coincidence. | Feb 25 22:24 |
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| XRevan86 | Or purposeful neglect of crap. | Feb 25 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | > To us, nothing that happens is truly random. | Feb 25 22:40 |
| XRevan86 | So wise. | Feb 25 22:40 |
| XRevan86 | I'll feed this phrase into my random phrase spit bot | Feb 25 22:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | efw | Feb 26 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, damn Riot. | Feb 26 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Malory: “Effective immediately I”m promoting Cyril to field agent.” Sterling: “WHAT!?” “Hey, that sounds great. Best of luck.” Malory: “Where do you think you’re going?” Sterling: "Oh sorry. I’ve got to get back to Earth before the stargate closes.” | Feb 26 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Mother, the chevrons are locking!" | Feb 26 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: ^ | Feb 26 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (Archer) | Feb 26 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | TIL: "A screwdriver with one part of Sloe gin, one part of Southern Comfort, one part Galliano, one part tequila and filled with orange juice is a "Slow Comfortable Screw Up Against The Wall Mexican Style"." | Feb 26 04:58 |
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| MinceR | 25 231407 <+DaemonFC[m]> Now if you said fish people, like Adventure Time implied, that would be racist. | Feb 26 06:58 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTHn2tHhcI | Feb 26 06:58 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0UL6Z7X4AEpccN.jpg:orig | Feb 26 21:11 |
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| XRevan86 | Monach University? | Feb 26 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/μοναχός#Greek ) | Feb 26 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | μοναχός - Wiktionary | Feb 26 21:24 | |
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| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Feb 26 21:47 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Clang, Eclipse, Qt Python and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121109 [https://pleroma.site/objects/74f4877f-857a-480d-a515-965ba6325f1c] | Feb 27 01:49 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Value of Open Source Software In Higher Education http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121110 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b5350d02-e45e-4a97-a407-4d1481a4f9fd] | Feb 27 01:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games and Wine: GOG Layoffs, Talos Principle, GNU/Linux as "the Best Development Environment" for Games and More Wine Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121111 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d355bfb7-3eed-4f7f-8165-a7247a49130f] | Feb 27 02:44 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Testing Ubuntu 19.04 and IPFire 2.21 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121118 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e1fdb2b8-80ef-4d77-87a4-f444dac95247] | Feb 27 06:19 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/2/2019: X.Org Server 1.20.4, LibreELEC (Leia) 9.0.1, Go 1.12 http://techrights.org/2019/02/27/go-1-12/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebbf1db3-a8fe-4ded-b957-33f88607ad87] | Feb 27 10:57 | |
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| scientes | geeze, reddit has turned into what Facebook turned into | Feb 27 12:01 |
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| gde33 | 👎 | Feb 27 12:40 |
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| schestowitz | [12:01] <scientes> geeze, reddit has turned into what Facebook turned into | Feb 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | in what sense? | Feb 27 16:49 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/dy5bspk.gifv | Feb 27 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "Splish splash I was taking a bath ....and loving it!" | Feb 27 17:02 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to scientes | Feb 27 17:02 | |
| gde33 | It happened when the Swartz left the building | Feb 27 17:03 |
| schestowitz | did he do much there | Feb 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | he left shortly after they bought the company | Feb 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | I heard his name is just exploited by them for marketing | Feb 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | the geek wunderkind | Feb 27 17:12 |
| gde33 | https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt | Feb 27 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Full text of "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto" | Feb 27 17:13 | |
| gde33 | in the future people will say, wow, if he talked like that no wonder he got killed | Feb 27 17:15 |
| gde33 | what did he expect? | Feb 27 17:15 |
| scientes | gde33, anyone who speaks with that much confidence about the future is usually a fool | Feb 27 17:18 |
| MinceR | may the Swartz be with you | Feb 27 17:18 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | Feb 27 17:18 |
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| scientes | They're COMBING the dessert? | Feb 27 17:19 |
| scientes | Do you think we are taking this a little too literally? | Feb 27 17:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 17:19 |
| scientes | When was THIS in the movie? | Feb 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | now. | Feb 27 17:20 |
| gde33 | scientes: it was suppose to be funny, you were the only one who didn't get it. lol | Feb 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | anyway, what changed about facebook? | Feb 27 17:20 |
| scientes | MinceR, its all politics and tin-foil hats | Feb 27 17:21 |
| scientes | actually I have no idea, haven't used Facebook for years | Feb 27 17:21 |
| scientes | but it was already becoming that when I left | Feb 27 17:21 |
| MinceR | i thought it was always shit | Feb 27 17:23 |
| scientes | 10 years ago it was social | Feb 27 17:24 |
| scientes | stil a waste of time, but much more social | Feb 27 17:24 |
| scientes | I think what happens is that these social networks get taken over by anti-social people that are on there because they are afraid to talk to people in real life | Feb 27 17:26 |
| gde33 | scientes: not afraid to talk, they just dont have anyone to talk with anymore or never did, that way they have a lot more time to invest than social people. | Feb 27 17:40 |
| gde33 | I remmeber when kids played world of warcraft their entire youth entirely without interacting with anyone ever | Feb 27 17:41 |
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| scientes | China has a whole industry of live video chats with females | Feb 27 17:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/anti-cheat-software-causing-big-problems-for-windows-10-previews/ | Feb 27 20:16 |
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| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I wonder if the appearance of the DS9 spin-off is what caused the ST:TNG universe to develop… commerce, capitalism. | Feb 27 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | It's no longer space communism %) | Feb 27 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | In the episode Firstborn (S07E21) the word "money" was used in a mandane context (not Holodeck history or foreign relations). | Feb 27 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why replicators cannot handle that. Copyrighted material? | Feb 27 20:32 |
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| MinceR | it never was | Feb 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | people didn't space starve | Feb 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | nor did they have space censorship | Feb 27 21:33 |
| MinceR | iirc there weren't even any space gulags | Feb 27 21:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It, at least partly, had common ownership of the means of production. | Feb 27 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | the means being the replicators | Feb 27 21:46 |
| MinceR | which are not the only means of production | Feb 27 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | not the Stargate ones :) | Feb 27 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Theoretically they can construct anything depending on their size. | Feb 27 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | including parts for larger replicators %) | Feb 27 21:47 |
| MinceR | yet other ways of producing things exist and are practiced, are they not? | Feb 27 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm not quite sure. | Feb 27 21:48 |
| MinceR | also, weren't the ferengi using something that could not be replicated as money? | Feb 27 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | I've only seen evidence of that in the late seasons, with mining, resource-based currency, etc. | Feb 27 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Latinum. I cannot remember it was explicitly stated as something unreplicatable. | Feb 27 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | and it's a late addition as well | Feb 27 21:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | also, weren't the ferengi using something that could not be replicated as money? | Feb 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something called latinum. | Feb 27 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't ever really say what it's for, iirc. | Feb 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They refer to it as "liquid" or bars of "gold pressed latinum". | Feb 27 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | S07E04 Gambit – introduction of Latinum | Feb 27 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | I wasn't sure, but it's Season 7 again. | Feb 27 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How do you know this. | Feb 27 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=st%3Atng+introduction+of+latinum&t=ffab&ia=web :) | Feb 27 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-st:tng introduction of latinum at DuckDuckGo | Feb 27 21:54 | |
| MinceR | memory alpha? :> | Feb 27 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm busy daytime drinking at the moment and wandered into this discussion. | Feb 27 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ah, ok | Feb 27 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | Sixth result – IMDB with "Trivia note: gold pressed latinum mentioned for the first time on TNG." on the episode. | Feb 27 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | This reminds me of a speech made by Picard earlier in the series, where he said that humans no longer value possessions. | Feb 27 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | which is as anti-capitalist as it gets | Feb 27 21:57 |
| MinceR | or just post-scarcity | Feb 27 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Neutral_Zone_%28episode%29 | Feb 27 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memory-alpha.fandom.com | The Neutral Zone (episode) | Memory Alpha | FANDOM powered by Wikia | Feb 27 21:58 | |
| XRevan86 | > People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of things. We've eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions. | Feb 27 21:58 |
| MinceR | what would happen if someone used a publicly owned replicator to produce a replicator of the same size, assembled it and kept it for their own use? | Feb 27 21:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Since anyone can do the same, what's the big deal? | Feb 27 21:59 |
| MinceR | exactly | Feb 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | so what would they need a prohibition on private property for? | Feb 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You've just explained space communism :P | Feb 27 22:00 |
| MinceR | no, i just explained how it isn't communism | Feb 27 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | property loses meaning | Feb 27 22:01 |
| MinceR | not really | Feb 27 22:01 |
| MinceR | do people keep secrets? do they have privacy? | Feb 27 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | Is this the private vs. personal property debate? | Feb 27 22:02 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Feb 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | seems to me the only alleged component of "communism" that's present is something people can't regulate and for now can't have, only hope that someday people will have it | Feb 27 22:03 |
| MinceR | none of the elements of trying to cope with scarcity (the wrong way) are present | Feb 27 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In ST:TNG it's sustained by magic, but still. | Feb 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | not technology? | Feb 27 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: magic technology | Feb 27 22:05 |
| MinceR | either way, it's more than some sort of economical regulation | Feb 27 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: True, but they have been vague enough to keep it a possibility. | Feb 27 22:06 |
| MinceR | where would that possibility materialize? | Feb 27 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | and that Picard quote is a big hint that the accumulation of capital is no longer the driver | Feb 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | of course it isn't | Feb 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | it can't be, once scarcity is eliminated | Feb 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | ...by technology | Feb 27 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | Heck knows what makes the Federation ticks, but it isn't the corporate money. | Feb 27 22:07 |
| MinceR | this has nothing to do with marx's failed theories | Feb 27 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: We have no scarcity in IT, do we | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | humans acting uncharacteristically (tolerating each other and cooperating) is what makes the federation tick | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | we do | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | unfortunately | Feb 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Still the capitalist presence shapes it _a_lot_ | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | we have lots of it | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | we even have plenty of artificial scarcity | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | we have copyrights, trademarks, patents, DRM, corporate secrets | Feb 27 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's the point | Feb 27 22:08 |
| MinceR | we have finite computing capacity, finite storage capacity | Feb 27 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: To have commerce, one needs a seller and a buyer | Feb 27 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | someone has to sell programmes, someone has to buy them | Feb 27 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | When there's no scarcity, programmes are freely available, there's a problem. | Feb 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | no, not really | Feb 27 22:10 |
| MinceR | i use lots of programs i haven't bought | Feb 27 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And their creators probably get by by other means than direct sell of their programmes for profit. | Feb 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | and your point is? | Feb 27 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Where would capitalism be without inequality, prestige, competition in production? | Feb 27 22:12 |
| MinceR | not sure | Feb 27 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | accelerated growth of sells | Feb 27 22:13 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that in a post-scarcity society these concepts of "capitalism" and "communism" become meaningless | Feb 27 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | To me the desire to possess seems extremely important for capitalism to simply be. | Feb 27 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In a post-scarcity world scarcity has to be created. | Feb 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem like that to me | Feb 27 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: For the machine to tick. Otherwise the ends won't be met. | Feb 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | seems to me that competition can create better things (including services and pieces of information) even if those things aren't owned | Feb 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | as for creating scarcity, that's for masochists and fascists | Feb 27 22:15 |
| MinceR | without scarcity, you don't need to meet ends | Feb 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | you can just live happily | Feb 27 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ownership defines capitalism. | Feb 27 22:16 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: ownership also defines communism | Feb 27 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In a way that it's abolished. | Feb 27 22:17 |
| MinceR | no, in a way that it's forbidden | Feb 27 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Unless your definition of Communism happens to be the same as Stalinism | Feb 27 22:18 |
| MinceR | or reserved for the masters you're not supposed to be aware of | Feb 27 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I wonder how you look at Anarcho-Communism | Feb 27 22:18 |
| MinceR | no, in communism it's forbidden; in stalinism it's reserved to the dictator | Feb 27 22:18 |
| MinceR | i'm not quite sure what anarcho-communism even is | Feb 27 22:18 |
| MinceR | how do its proponents imagine the ban on private property would be enforced? | Feb 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | is it merely a state of mind? | Feb 27 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Culturaly, yes | Feb 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | or is the community supposed to take away instances of private property? | Feb 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | because if it's merely a state of mind then it should be able to coexist with all other forms of anarchism | Feb 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | harmlessly | Feb 27 22:19 |
| MinceR | and there's no need to fight about which subclass of anarchism one believes in | Feb 27 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm not an anarchist myself, so I won't try to argue. | Feb 27 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But I don't think pure Anarchism can be sustainable without it being global. | Feb 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | why not? | Feb 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | can anarchists not band together to defend their common interests? | Feb 27 22:21 |
| MinceR | or even hire mercenary companies to do so? | Feb 27 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hard to have an organised army service without a state, I think. | Feb 27 22:22 |
| MinceR | i thought one of the foundations of anarchism _was_ the ability to self-organize without coercion | Feb 27 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Even democratic countries have Martial Law | Feb 27 22:23 |
| MinceR | which makes them (hopefully temporarily) undemocratic | Feb 27 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | which implies a distrust that a democratic government can handle a military situation | Feb 27 22:23 |
| MinceR | that should be the distrusters' problem | Feb 27 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | then what about no government at all? | Feb 27 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Which would be almost everyone. | Feb 27 22:24 |
| MinceR | don't build a governmentless society if you don't trust your ability to live without a government? | Feb 27 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Feb 27 22:25 |
| MinceR | well yes, the greatest hurdle to having a stateless society is people's burning desire to rule over others and/or being oppressed by others | Feb 27 22:25 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But anyway, yes, in a communist state the government won't allow one to acquire exclusive ownership over property, things that are most likely taxed today such as buildings, vehicles, stretches of land, etc. | Feb 27 22:30 |
| MinceR | instead the government would insist on keeping ownership of all that | Feb 27 22:30 |
| MinceR | which is a rather extreme form of oppression even before you start to consider the horrible things they'd also have to do in order to be able to keep getting away with this | Feb 27 22:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: In an actually communist state the government won't use it either. | Feb 27 22:31 |
| MinceR | riiiiiight | Feb 27 22:31 |
| MinceR | because it would consist of angels, not humans | Feb 27 22:31 |
| MinceR | in any case, what would that even mean? | Feb 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | buildings and roads are just abandoned and not maintained nor built anymore? | Feb 27 22:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Or well-thought laws and well-designed balances against corruption… | Feb 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | riiiiight | Feb 27 22:32 |
| MinceR | because that worked so well so far | Feb 27 22:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It seems like a screwed government screws one regardless of the way the property is managed. | Feb 27 22:33 |
| MinceR | yes | Feb 27 22:34 |
| MinceR | and the more extensive the government is, the more extensively it gets to screw everyone | Feb 27 22:34 |
| MinceR | if you put the government in charge of more property, that makes it more extensive | Feb 27 22:35 |
| MinceR | (but is not the only way of doing so) | Feb 27 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: True, but then again, the more weaker it gets when it fails to deliver. | Feb 27 22:36 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The modern Russian Federation manages to survive despite having a government that doesn't even try to work. | Feb 27 22:37 |
| MinceR | and apparently the "conservatives" keep forgetting that putting the government in charge of enforcing religious rules against people is very far from "small government" | Feb 27 22:37 |
| XRevan86 | So "fail early" (: | Feb 27 22:37 |
| MinceR | well, we'll see how far the russian government can make its subjects poorer and poorer until it collapses | Feb 27 22:38 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The USSR collapsed in just ~15 years after it started to lose it. | Feb 27 22:39 |
| XRevan86 | The RF never stopped losing it, and it exists for almost 30 years now. | Feb 27 22:39 |
| MinceR | losing what? | Feb 27 22:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Doing the things it has taken on doing. | Feb 27 22:40 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | It always boils down to whether the state can deliver and its willingness to adapt when the people want them to. | Feb 27 22:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The rise of an Oligopoly is also a failure on the state's account. | Feb 27 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | A smaller capitalist government can fail too. | Feb 27 22:49 |
| MinceR | it seems to always boil down to the fact that we can't manage corruption and the state is a hotbed of corruption | Feb 27 22:50 |
| MinceR | oh, and that this makes it questionable whether we can rightly hand such power to small groups of people | Feb 27 22:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I guess that's why democracy is so important. | Feb 27 22:51 |
| MinceR | no, that's one of the reasons why democracy is failing | Feb 27 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just as anything, it has to be refined. | Feb 27 22:52 |
| XRevan86 | we're just not there yet, I suppose | Feb 27 22:52 |
| MinceR | maybe we won't ever be | Feb 27 22:53 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe we won't have a perfect Operating System too. | Feb 27 22:53 |
| MinceR | at least we don't give operating systems the right to arrest, incarcerate, let alone execute people. | Feb 27 22:54 |
| MinceR | or to take away their property. | Feb 27 22:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The changelog for Windows 11 | Feb 27 22:55 |
| MinceR | it qualified? :> | Feb 27 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It will be glorious %) | Feb 27 22:55 |
| MinceR | hopefully it won't get to rule over my neck of the woods | Feb 27 22:56 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: I think it will be a long while until we get democracy right. | Feb 27 22:58 |
| MinceR | if ever | Feb 27 22:58 |
| MinceR | and it seems the species are giving up on it already | Feb 27 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's a big and unstable world. | Feb 27 22:59 |
| MinceR | and it's also becoming a hot and wet world | Feb 27 22:59 |
| XRevan86 | another way a small capitalist government can fail us all | Feb 27 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | (small capitalist == libertarian) | Feb 27 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | because to reduce climate change we'd have to *gasp*, regulate! | Feb 27 23:01 |
| MinceR | i fail to see the significance of "capitalist" in this | Feb 27 23:01 |
| MinceR | then again, maybe the north korean way is the way to go | Feb 27 23:02 |
| MinceR | make sure your slaves starve to death and then they'll stop affecting the environment negatively | Feb 27 23:02 |
| MinceR | once they decompose fully | Feb 27 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: When major production is not in the hands of entrepreneurs, it's easier to push climate-regulation restrictions. | Feb 27 23:02 |
| MinceR | unless the people supposed to push them are in the pockets of megacorporations | Feb 27 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Oligopoly is capitalist by definition. | Feb 27 23:03 |
| MinceR | are state-owned megacorporations also capitalist by definition? | Feb 27 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Hm, depends on how they're organised. | Feb 27 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | but if they have that much influence, then that would imply a very big pocket of cash | Feb 27 23:05 |
| XRevan86 | State-owned megacorporations are run by state officials. If there's no money laundering involved (like in the RF), then there's nothing politically significant about these persons. | Feb 27 23:08 |
| XRevan86 | and the key word in "money laundering" is "money" | Feb 27 23:09 |
| MinceR | the merger of big business and state is always trouble regardless of whether it happened by state capture, the state taking over business or by some other means | Feb 27 23:11 |
| MinceR | bad news for competitors, bad news for clients, bad news for citizens | Feb 27 23:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It depends. We were talking about the influence of this on democracy though. | Feb 27 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | and the ability of a state-owned corportaion to influence politics depends on its ability to accumulate capital | Feb 27 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | and that depends on the length of the leash it's on | Feb 27 23:18 |
| XRevan86 | Unfortunately, the word "scrutiny" is not yet in the Russians vocabulary. | Feb 27 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | no, seriously, how do I translate it? :D | Feb 27 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I hate that kind of work | Feb 28 06:27 |
| schestowitz | always takes double or more what you expect | Feb 28 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: | Feb 28 06:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Feb 28 06:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Spent 2 hours so far on just the three drawer cabinet | Feb 28 06:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Put one of the drawers together upside down and had to take it apart and redo it. | Feb 28 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :P | Feb 28 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't do things while tired. | Feb 28 06:47 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I stopped and made myself a mixer a moment ago. | Feb 28 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I stripped one of the parts and had to force it the rest of the way in with pliers. | Feb 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :P | Feb 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I would say this is triple what I expected. | Feb 28 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus | Feb 28 07:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This last knob doesn't want to go all the way in. | Feb 28 07:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fighting me like a sob. | Feb 28 07:07 |
| *DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: 20190228_012423.jpg (3571KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FrafvyodiNXoVruOhrTVOWhY > | Feb 28 07:25 | |
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| schestowitz | [06:47] <DaemonFC[m]> Put one of the drawers together upside down and had to take it apart and redo it. | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz | happens too | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz | sometimes you wonder if it's worth the time correcting (for some errors) | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz | like forgetting to insert reinforcers | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz | [07:04] <DaemonFC[m]> No, I would say this is triple what I expected. | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz | If it's a big project and I have no tools like a drill (must borrow), I then end up with blisters too | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes ripped apart gloves, from the time the blisters are too sore and I rely on something to east the pain | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz | if you charge for assembly labour (your time), these are expensive | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | same for bicycles | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | I never assembles one from a box, also for safety reasons | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | the pros can assemble these quickly, they have tool and work in parallel, specialty can make it a matter of minutes, not hours | Feb 28 08:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I assembled a bicycle myself once. | Feb 28 08:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I bought it on Amazon. | Feb 28 08:39 |
| gde33 | https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/26/facebook-vs-patreon/ | Feb 28 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook wants up to 30% of fan subscriptions vs Patreon’s 5% – TechCrunch | Feb 28 08:56 | |
| gde33 | Ah the zuck is finally honest about his idea on taxation levels. | Feb 28 08:56 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Feb 28 23:30 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Boycott Twitter ! | Feb 28 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | weird blog | Mar 01 15:28 |
| schestowitz | https://travelingtrainer.laubersolutions.com/2019/03/febrrrruary-reading-and-writing.html | Mar 01 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-travelingtrainer.laubersolutions.com | The Traveling Trainer: FeBRRRRuary reading and writing | Mar 01 15:28 | |
| schestowitz | I read this, read that... | Mar 01 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Almost as bad as Michael Meeks' blog | Mar 01 15:28 |
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| XRevan86 | https://coub.com/view/3nn11yhn | Mar 01 16:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Mar 01 18:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: They live? | Mar 01 18:43 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 01 18:43 |
| cubexyz | there's a windows 11? | Mar 01 20:08 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: no %) | Mar 01 20:08 |
| MinceR | not yet | Mar 01 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | First it needs to implement the right to arrest, incarcerate, let alone execute people; or to take away their property. | Mar 01 20:15 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18082244 | Mar 01 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Mar 01 21:54 | |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/3zhnjn.mp4 | Mar 01 22:04 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18082147 | Mar 01 22:52 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18082146 | Mar 01 23:14 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: viera netsplit | Mar 02 00:45 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18082143 | Mar 02 00:52 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/18082129 | Mar 02 01:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Mar 02 01:13 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: World’s Largest Free And Open Source (FOSS) Facility Opened In Kerala http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121252 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fbea8d95-017d-4205-a910-572f1afa9fd9] | Mar 02 11:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to buy a Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121247 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f77af5eb-62b4-406f-8555-b8f077016baa] | Mar 02 11:29 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 31 Finally Planning To Gate Packages While Testing, More Stable Rawhide http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121257 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7181d173-d62f-47e8-ac10-a7b2f5b9884b] | Mar 02 12:58 | |
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| schestowitz | We're launching #tuxmachines IRC channels shortly | Mar 02 14:03 |
| schestowitz | if anyone wants to join us there... | Mar 02 14:04 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: done, success! | Mar 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | so the issue was, I had two users on the channel | Mar 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | you can /join #tuxmachines now | Mar 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | rianne might join soon, then I'll announce it in the site etc. | Mar 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ah, someone already found it | Mar 02 14:51 |
| schestowitz | before it's even announced | Mar 02 14:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 02 14:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | you can /join #tuxmachines now | Mar 02 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Riot doesn't show it when I search freenode. | Mar 02 17:20 |
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| cubexyz | are we switching to #tuxmachines or keeping both channels? | Mar 02 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: not switching but just adding | Mar 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: does it search freenode now? | Mar 02 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Mar 02 17:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bridge makes IRC work just about like any other Matrix room | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | cool. I didn't know | Mar 02 17:34 |
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| XRevan86 | Heh, tried to list rooms with biboumi, Freenode replied "Invalid parameters for /LIST". | Mar 02 17:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tylerkingkade/grindr-herrick-lawsuit-230-online-stalking | Mar 02 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | Herrick Vs. Grindr Is A Section 230 Case That Could Change The Internet As We Know It | Mar 02 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "“It was like an episode of Black Mirror,” said Matthew Herrick, whose high-profile lawsuit alleges that Grindr looked the other way while his ex-boyfriend tormented him." | Mar 02 20:05 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/MkE2Oe8.gifv | Mar 02 20:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Mar 02 20:33 | |
| XRevan86 | ST:DS9 has opened my eyes on just how horny the Ferengi are. A faaamily picture? | Mar 02 20:49 |
| XRevan86 | That's uncomfortable to watch. | Mar 02 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Unlike this cat. He's great. | Mar 02 20:50 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/DQL7VLf.jpg | Mar 02 20:53 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/GWJ2Omn.jpg | Mar 02 21:21 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/tQxl3TM.jpg | Mar 02 22:02 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/TxGLmF6.gifv | Mar 02 22:22 |
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| MinceR | (audio) https://youtu.be/9ao6stS2toU | Mar 02 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Autotuned Cat [the original] - YouTube | Mar 02 23:00 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/OO5rTS2.gifv | Mar 02 23:53 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, is meowr.ru your domain? | Mar 03 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, a friend owns it. | Mar 03 01:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Why do you ask? | Mar 03 01:25 |
| scientes | just wondering | Mar 03 01:25 |
| scientes | but you set your reverse dns to it | Mar 03 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I have full access to it though (: | Mar 03 01:26 |
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| scientes | I am in Costa Rica and am travelling with a Russian woman to Panama and then Columbia | Mar 03 01:33 |
| scientes | so now I want to learn some Russian | Mar 03 01:33 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Duolingo is an interesting place for that, if you can tolerate their intrusiveness. | Mar 03 01:35 |
| scientes | I like Duolingo and it is great for Spanish, but I have to get use to the Cyrillic before I can really use Duolingo | Mar 03 01:36 |
| scientes | it really isn't designed for learning new orthographies | Mar 03 01:36 |
| scientes | and Duolingo also requires the internet to work, which is stupid | Mar 03 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Um, well, it's just 33 symbols :) | Mar 03 01:37 |
| scientes | and its also phonetic | Mar 03 01:37 |
| scientes | 33x2x2 (cursive and printed) | Mar 03 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | Knowing the Greek alphabet would help a bit | Mar 03 01:38 |
| scientes | like the М is backwards in Russian cursive | Mar 03 01:38 |
| XRevan86 | It looks like an M there :P | Mar 03 01:38 |
| scientes | actually we write M the way you write.... | Mar 03 01:38 |
| scientes | in cursive | Mar 03 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But I doubt knowing cursive is essential for beginners. | Mar 03 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: T, I know | Mar 03 01:39 |
| scientes | yeah | Mar 03 01:39 |
| scientes | but Z (sound) is the same | Mar 03 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | Unicode has ᲅ | Mar 03 01:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Z? | Mar 03 01:41 |
| scientes | z | Mar 03 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | Зз | Mar 03 01:41 |
| scientes | yes | Mar 03 01:41 |
| scientes | I don't have the font for ᲅ | Mar 03 01:41 |
| XRevan86 | The sound is the same, yea. Apart from that it can be palatalised. | Mar 03 01:41 |
| scientes | and the cursive is the same | Mar 03 01:42 |
| scientes | interestingly enough | Mar 03 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, cursive. I never bothered with the Latin one :) | Mar 03 01:42 |
| scientes | but cursive is dead in English---they stopped teaching it (although I was taught it) | Mar 03 01:42 |
| XRevan86 | Cyrillic cursive is very much alive. | Mar 03 01:44 |
| scientes | well the current curriculum in the US is idiotic | Mar 03 01:45 |
| MinceR | they taught me to write in cursive, then eventually i stopped because it's both slow and unreadable | Mar 03 01:46 |
| scientes | and curriculum never use to be a national thing either, so it is also a power grab | Mar 03 01:46 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Still, to proceed with any course you only need 33 letters to know. | Mar 03 01:48 |
| XRevan86 | Capital and minor letters are mostly the same – Яя, Цц, Гг, et alia | Mar 03 01:48 |
| scientes | the US curriculum will make math education even woorse in the US | Mar 03 01:49 |
| scientes | and it was so bad when I was in school that I didn't even take math | Mar 03 01:49 |
| scientes | https://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/common-core-math-problem.jpg | Mar 03 01:49 |
| XRevan86 | Ее, Бб – pretty much the only exceptions in print. | Mar 03 01:50 |
| MinceR | lol @ pic | Mar 03 01:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIWaJ0sy03g | Mar 03 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-new math by tom lehrer - YouTube | Mar 03 01:50 | |
| XRevan86 | Also Лл and Дд can look a bit different, with a triangular shape (like in Greek). | Mar 03 01:50 |
| scientes | I got Дд down | Mar 03 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | > https://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/common-core-math-problem.jpg | Mar 03 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | wat | Mar 03 01:51 |
| scientes | yeah math education in the US is fucked up now | Mar 03 01:52 |
| scientes | like they teach rounding, and if you don't round but provide an exact answer it is considered wrong | Mar 03 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I simply don't understand what is the point at all | Mar 03 01:52 |
| scientes | https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/b1/fa/f6b1faec092c8f82c1c430ff3cc7cf3d.png | Mar 03 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | It's not only that it's biased/illogical, what the heck | Mar 03 01:53 |
| scientes | In my opinion, I think students stop paying attention because spelling is so hard | Mar 03 01:53 |
| scientes | and then it gets hard to teach them anything | Mar 03 01:53 |
| scientes | like I said, when I was in school I didn't even take math | Mar 03 01:54 |
| scientes | I didn't learn any math from school after 5th grade | Mar 03 01:54 |
| scientes | and that is only because I had a teacher who was teaching her first class out of college, and took me aside and gave me harder problems | Mar 03 01:54 |
| scientes | you try to take math in college and they assume it is remedial math that you are going to take | Mar 03 01:55 |
| scientes | it is a fucking joke | Mar 03 01:55 |
| scientes | https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/b1/fa/f6b1faec092c8f82c1c430ff3cc7cf3d.png | Mar 03 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: same link | Mar 03 01:55 |
| scientes | oh ok | Mar 03 01:56 |
| scientes | i just searched "common core stupid" on google images | Mar 03 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Anyway, pronunciation should be more challenging in Russian. | Mar 03 01:56 |
| scientes | yes, new sounds | Mar 03 01:57 |
| scientes | but it is phonetic | Mar 03 01:57 |
| MinceR | except when it isn't | Mar 03 01:57 |
| scientes | oh RLY | Mar 03 01:57 |
| MinceR | like when g turns into h | Mar 03 01:57 |
| MinceR | or when e turns into yo | Mar 03 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | It's not perfectly phonetic, but compared to English – sure :) | Mar 03 01:57 |
| scientes | the yo thing i already noticed, | Mar 03 01:57 |
| scientes | I was like, why is this character called something differn't? | Mar 03 01:57 |
| MinceR | or when i turns into e or the other way around, i don't remember clearly | Mar 03 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | "ё" (yo) is considered "academic". I always use it though. | Mar 03 01:58 |
| XRevan86 | One thing that hinders it is that Microsoft placed it on tilda | Mar 03 01:58 |
| XRevan86 | > or when i turns into e or the other way around, i don't remember clearly | Mar 03 01:59 |
| XRevan86 | You probably mean ikanye | Mar 03 02:00 |
| MinceR | i guess so | Mar 03 02:00 |
| scientes | lawl http://media.salon.com/2015/11/ccmath1.jpg | Mar 03 02:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 03 02:00 |
| XRevan86 | It's a form of pronunciation (dominant), when most unstressed "ye"'s turn into "i"'s | Mar 03 02:00 |
| scientes | unteaching the communicative property | Mar 03 02:00 |
| XRevan86 | Unstressed syllables are second class citizens in Russian. | Mar 03 02:01 |
| scientes | same in English | Mar 03 02:01 |
| MinceR | and teaching a pointless convention | Mar 03 02:01 |
| scientes | (although I couldn't describe it) | Mar 03 02:01 |
| MinceR | actually 2 pointless conventions | Mar 03 02:01 |
| MinceR | don't you love having to memorize useless data? | Mar 03 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | And because Russian is highly synthetic, unstressed syllables can turn stressed. | Mar 03 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | дельный, дела – diel'nyj, dila | Mar 03 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | * diél'nyj, dilá | Mar 03 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | > lawl http://media.salon.com/2015/11/ccmath1.jpg | Mar 03 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | What class is this? | Mar 03 02:04 |
| scientes | math | Mar 03 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | No, I mean the level | Mar 03 02:04 |
| scientes | oh probably like 3rd grade | Mar 03 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | Yes, grade | Mar 03 02:05 |
| scientes | the problem is not that they are trying to teach to think about math in differnt way, it is that they are testing people on it | Mar 03 02:05 |
| scientes | and then the teachers have no idea what they are doing | Mar 03 02:05 |
| scientes | they would be better just teaching the old Victorian way, with laws like the communicative property | Mar 03 02:06 |
| scientes | but there has to be a reason US students are so bad at math | Mar 03 02:06 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The repeated addition strategy | Mar 03 02:07 |
| scientes | more like: brute force | Mar 03 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | Implies that multiplication doesn't *always* boil down to that | Mar 03 02:08 |
| MinceR | well, it doesn't always boil down to it in this way | Mar 03 02:08 |
| scientes | well it doesn't if you are talking about algorithms, but yeah, calling it a "strategy" is confusing | Mar 03 02:08 |
| MinceR | consider matrix multiplication | Mar 03 02:08 |
| scientes | MinceR, but that is a entirely differnt operation | Mar 03 02:09 |
| scientes | it just happens to have the same name | Mar 03 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Matrices are different, multiplication there is pretty much by analogy. | Mar 03 02:09 |
| MinceR | also, multiplication of real numbers | Mar 03 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | By observation, I haven't noticed kids having issues with more conventional methods of teaching math. | Mar 03 02:11 |
| scientes | they do in the US, but again, my theory comes is that this is imported from frustration with their inability to spell | Mar 03 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | But maybe I'm just used to thinking inside the box for not understanding how to make 10 when adding 8+5. | Mar 03 02:13 |
| scientes | that is an especially stupid one | Mar 03 02:13 |
| scientes | like this number line stuff I can get, but only for two-digit numbers | Mar 03 02:14 |
| scientes | to get the order of magnitude stuff---but again it should never be required | Mar 03 02:14 |
| scientes | when i was in elementary school there was no grades, and giving young kids grades is stupid | Mar 03 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Though I guess I would've answered -3 | Mar 03 02:15 |
| scientes | cause how can then understand the grades if they can't understand such basic math????? | Mar 03 02:15 |
| scientes | that is the arrogance of it---it is assuming that the kids are stupid and can't understand these things | Mar 03 02:16 |
| scientes | when maybe they just don't care and are uninterested | Mar 03 02:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Kids understand positive reinforcement well | Mar 03 02:16 |
| XRevan86 | Just tell them that "A" is the best and they'll respond to that | Mar 03 02:17 |
| scientes | It is also a culture----I have heard people say that school in the US is a day-care, but SOCIETY is a day-care | Mar 03 02:17 |
| MinceR | maybe it shouldn't be | Mar 03 02:17 |
| MinceR | i'm really sick of the state insisting on being my parent | Mar 03 02:18 |
| scientes | I never like shopping, but now that I am in the Costa Rica I like it, because the stores have personality | Mar 03 02:18 |
| MinceR | (especially when they're so extremely incompetent and careless at it) | Mar 03 02:18 |
| scientes | and the owners are actually responsible for running them | Mar 03 02:18 |
| scientes | rather than computer algorithms | Mar 03 02:18 |
| XRevan86 | -3, because the only unknown in the question is adding 8+5 to what, thus understand it as x + (8 + 5) = 10 | Mar 03 02:18 |
| scientes | XRevan86, oh yeah, that makes sense | Mar 03 02:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I think, education, especially for younger children, should be encouraging and engaging. | Mar 03 02:22 |
| scientes | yes I know it was for me until they introduced grades | Mar 03 02:22 |
| scientes | I still put passion into it after then, but I was (literally) the only one | Mar 03 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | But the stuff you've shown isn't, it's frustrating for unpredictable inconsistency. | Mar 03 02:23 |
| scientes | mainly because school provided something that was the same every day, predictable | Mar 03 02:23 |
| scientes | but again, I didn't take math because other students were so far behind | Mar 03 02:23 |
| scientes | another student taught me calculus because the teacher was incompetent | Mar 03 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Sounds like that was like a shock, the grades. | Mar 03 02:24 |
| scientes | and I found a old textbook for trig that was EXCELLENT | Mar 03 02:24 |
| scientes | the problem with grades is that it distracts from learning | Mar 03 02:24 |
| scientes | also, if it isn't science of math, the grades are quite arbitrary | Mar 03 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe just throwing A's at everyone would've been better. | Mar 03 02:24 |
| scientes | it also pits students against each other | Mar 03 02:25 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Schools want something out of pupils, that's just the enforcement. | Mar 03 02:25 |
| scientes | but meh, grades arn't that bad | Mar 03 02:25 |
| scientes | just not for young students | Mar 03 02:25 |
| scientes | not before puberty | Mar 03 02:26 |
| scientes | yeah puberty was the change, not grades | Mar 03 02:26 |
| scientes | ;) | Mar 03 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | humáns… | Mar 03 02:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: When I was pointing out pronunciation, I mostly mean broad/slender consonants. | Mar 03 02:28 |
| scientes | Putin announced a new program for Russian kids starting in 6th grade | Mar 03 02:28 |
| scientes | where they can choose a track | Mar 03 02:28 |
| XRevan86 | Like saying "priviet" properly. | Mar 03 02:29 |
| scientes | in English foreign learners are worried about shit/sheet, and bitch/beach | Mar 03 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | It has no diphthongs and doesn't rhythm with "vet". | Mar 03 02:30 |
| scientes | no diphthong because of the distinction between the second and third syllable? | Mar 03 02:31 |
| scientes | no that is wrong.... | Mar 03 02:31 |
| XRevan86 | Just two syllables %) | Mar 03 02:31 |
| scientes | ahhh, yeah Im not sure if I can pass that | Mar 03 02:32 |
| scientes | ahh its the breath | Mar 03 02:32 |
| XRevan86 | Breath? | Mar 03 02:33 |
| XRevan86 | //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Ru-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82.ogg audiofile | Mar 03 02:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Ru-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82.ogg | Mar 03 02:34 |
| XRevan86 | Too fast, probably. | Mar 03 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The trick is palatalisation of the "v" | Mar 03 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Palatalisation is something that happens to "n" in "piñata" (Spanish pronunciation, in English it additionally gets a "y" sound). | Mar 03 02:39 |
| XRevan86 | "y" helps to get the right sound, hence why it's part of the Latin spelling often like in "Chelyabinsk" | Mar 03 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | (it's actually "Chelabinsk", but with a German, palatalised, "l") | Mar 03 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | L and N I noticed are quite widespread in the world as palatalised consonants | Mar 03 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | But Russian has more :) | Mar 03 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | Ц (ts), Ш (sh), Ж (zh, like in "beige") are the only ones that don't ever get palatalised | Mar 03 02:47 |
| XRevan86 | Ж actually can sometimes, but that's dialectal – whatever. | Mar 03 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It's not impossible, I've seen learners who do get it ;) | Mar 03 02:51 |
| XRevan86 | > in English foreign learners are worried about shit/sheet, and bitch/beach | Mar 03 02:52 |
| scientes | <XRevan86> scientes: Palatalisation is something that happens to "n" in "piñata" (Spanish pronunciation, in English it additionally gets a "y" sound). | Mar 03 02:52 |
| scientes | AHHHHH | Mar 03 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | Indeed, and ironically some dialects mess that up | Mar 03 02:52 |
| scientes | yeah, I think I can do that in Spanish | Mar 03 02:53 |
| scientes | like Sueño | Mar 03 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | -нё | Mar 03 02:53 |
| scientes | and enstañar | Mar 03 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | энстаняр | Mar 03 02:54 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: piñata in Russian is "пиньята" ("ь" is a slender/palatalising stop), because it's loaned from English | Mar 03 02:56 |
| scientes | yeah but I was around enough Spanish speakers growing up to know the difference | Mar 03 02:56 |
| scientes | I can also get the rolled r (which in Spanish is rr, as in perro, or dog) | Mar 03 02:57 |
| scientes | but the single r in Spanish is difficult for me | Mar 03 02:57 |
| scientes | more like loaned from English speakers that couldn't speak Spanish | Mar 03 02:58 |
| scientes | or like the way English speakers say "venue" | Mar 03 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: rolled r sounds like the one in Russian | Mar 03 02:59 |
| scientes | cause the English still has the tilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1ata | Mar 03 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Piñata - Wikipedia | Mar 03 03:00 | |
| XRevan86 | "venyu" | Mar 03 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, yea | Mar 03 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | > /pɪnˈjɑːtə/ | Mar 03 03:01 |
| scientes | also Naïve | Mar 03 03:01 |
| scientes | which still has the double-dot | Mar 03 03:01 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "naive" is widespread though | Mar 03 03:02 |
| scientes | and bastardization of the pronounciation | Mar 03 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | And "pinata" annoys me, because I don't like it when diacritics get lost with no substitution | Mar 03 03:03 |
| scientes | ahh, that is palaterization too | Mar 03 03:03 |
| scientes | well, most English computer users have no way to type that | Mar 03 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, it's not palatalisation | Mar 03 03:03 |
| scientes | I am anal about it and will google the word to get the symbol | Mar 03 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: They can type "pinyata" | Mar 03 03:03 |
| MinceR | i thought the diacritic in naïve was there merely to ensure the 'ai' is not treated as a different sound | Mar 03 03:04 |
| scientes | I tried to set my keyboard to use dead keys, but couldn't figure it out | Mar 03 03:04 |
| XRevan86 | That's the best possible approximation | Mar 03 03:04 |
| scientes | MinceR, but that is how people pronounce it | Mar 03 03:04 |
| scientes | ahh, its a dipthong | Mar 03 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's a French spelling | Mar 03 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | ï is basically ji (yi) | Mar 03 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, no, the logic's different | Mar 03 03:06 |
| scientes | english has 19 vowels | Mar 03 03:06 |
| scientes | at least 14 | Mar 03 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | I thought it's like the Cyrillic letter of the same shape :) | Mar 03 03:06 |
| scientes | trying to use latin vowels is stupid | Mar 03 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | Though maybe the end result is the same… | Mar 03 03:07 |
| MinceR | if it was 'naive' in french, the 'ai' would produce a single, different vowel | Mar 03 03:07 |
| scientes | fœtus | Mar 03 03:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Indeed. | Mar 03 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: So, can you make a palatalised "v" for "привет"? :) | Mar 03 03:11 |
| MinceR | you just need to move your lips to your palate? :> | Mar 03 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, your nose | Mar 03 03:11 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 03 03:12 |
| scientes | oh shii | Mar 03 03:12 |
| scientes | that is what "r" in spanish pero is..... | Mar 03 03:12 |
| scientes | that i couldn't get | Mar 03 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What? | Mar 03 03:14 |
| scientes | at least the Mexican speaker that was trying to teach me | Mar 03 03:14 |
| scientes | his tongue went up against his hard palette | Mar 03 03:14 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Alveolar_tap.ogg is that the sound? | Mar 03 03:17 |
| scientes | yeah | Mar 03 03:17 |
| XRevan86 | //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ru-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.ogg | Mar 03 03:18 |
| XRevan86 | damn it | Mar 03 03:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ru-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.ogg | Mar 03 03:18 |
| XRevan86 | Russian palatalised trill | Mar 03 03:18 |
| scientes | ahh that one I can hear and try to do | Mar 03 03:19 |
| scientes | and it is the same sound | Mar 03 03:19 |
| scientes | that is the sound he was trying to make me make, the russian one | Mar 03 03:19 |
| scientes | in Spanish "pero" | Mar 03 03:19 |
| scientes | I think it is that if you try to put the eek vowel after it you have to say it that way, maybe | Mar 03 03:20 |
| scientes | ahhh, sometimes "three" is pronounced that way, just not in my accent | Mar 03 03:22 |
| scientes | but I am excited that I can finially hear the difference | Mar 03 03:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I've noticed in the Expanse series that the Martian marine girl has a peculiar accent | Mar 03 03:23 |
| XRevan86 | and she pronounces a lot of consonants palatalised | Mar 03 03:24 |
| XRevan86 | No idea where the actress is from | Mar 03 03:24 |
| XRevan86 | > that is the sound he was trying to make me make, the russian one | Mar 03 03:24 |
| scientes | I hear that Spanish has a wide variety of accents | Mar 03 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not completely sure, but I think a Russian slender r is also a tap | Mar 03 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | But I still heard the example as "ра" and not "ря" | Mar 03 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | I'm a bit confused myself, because I cannot pronounce the trill actually (: | Mar 03 03:26 |
| XRevan86 | I'm картавый | Mar 03 03:26 |
| scientes | ahh prickly | Mar 03 03:28 |
| scientes | it translated to burry, and I had never heard that world before, because I guess it is british english | Mar 03 03:28 |
| scientes | and I would never say it cause it could be confused with bury | Mar 03 03:28 |
| scientes | which only differs in the vowel | Mar 03 03:29 |
| XRevan86 | Картавый just means that my pronunciation of "r" is screwed up | Mar 03 03:29 |
| XRevan86 | Not sure if English has a term for that. | Mar 03 03:30 |
| scientes | hmmm | Mar 03 03:30 |
| XRevan86 | After all, the English r approximant I can do just fine :) | Mar 03 03:30 |
| scientes | you mean the schwa | Mar 03 03:30 |
| XRevan86 | No, the trilling r | Mar 03 03:30 |
| scientes | ə | Mar 03 03:31 |
| scientes | but there is no english trilled r | Mar 03 03:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That's the likely cause :) | Mar 03 03:31 |
| scientes | it is so novel in English, that me and my friend were making fun of it, by saying uno, dos, trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrace | Mar 03 03:32 |
| XRevan86 | The most peculiar case of Russian not being phonetic is probably -go at ends of words turning into -vo | Mar 03 03:36 |
| XRevan86 | ничего, nichego – nichevo | Mar 03 03:36 |
| MinceR | ah, yes | Mar 03 03:37 |
| XRevan86 | Dialectally it can be a voiced "h", when that's the sound meant by г in the dialect (usually south, like Kubañ) | Mar 03 03:39 |
| XRevan86 | голос, голод, ничего – hálas, hólat, nichehó | Mar 03 03:39 |
| XRevan86 | hólas* | Mar 03 03:40 |
| XRevan86 | (but the "main" dialect would have it as gólas, gólat, nichevó) | Mar 03 03:41 |
| scientes | in spanish the h is often not even pronounced | Mar 03 03:41 |
| scientes | like in hotel and hola | Mar 03 03:42 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Reminds of some English dialects, cockney in particular | Mar 03 03:42 |
| XRevan86 | Russian has words Отель (Otel'), История (Istorija), but that was just how they were loaned, and it's reflected in spelling. | Mar 03 03:43 |
| scientes | thats interesting | Mar 03 03:44 |
| scientes | wonder if those came from english through spanish | Mar 03 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | Probably from ἱστορία ;) | Mar 03 03:45 |
| scientes | yeah i just was reading that... | Mar 03 03:46 |
| XRevan86 | And French hôtel | Mar 03 03:46 |
| scientes | hotel is french | Mar 03 03:46 |
| scientes | i guess it is just as if the person is hissing as they say it | Mar 03 03:46 |
| XRevan86 | where the h is dropped phonetically | Mar 03 03:46 |
| scientes | so the h just isn't heard | Mar 03 03:46 |
| scientes | i just always has a guess that history was literally "his story" | Mar 03 03:47 |
| scientes | but that is obviously wrong | Mar 03 03:47 |
| scientes | πάστα has so many derivitives | Mar 03 03:48 |
| scientes | which even came from παστός, which just means sprinkled with salt | Mar 03 03:48 |
| scientes | interesting | Mar 03 03:49 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Wouldn't've guessed | Mar 03 03:51 |
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| scientes | i got more interesting when i ran into spanish words that has the same origin, but totally differn't meanings | Mar 03 03:52 |
| XRevan86 | "false friends" | Mar 03 03:52 |
| scientes | like at my hostel the owner put up a sign "Pardon the altercation." | Mar 03 03:54 |
| scientes | hmm, maybe he actually meant it | Mar 03 03:55 |
| scientes | cause it looks like the spanish word means the same thing | Mar 03 03:55 |
| XRevan86 | Пароль, parol' – password in Russian | Mar 03 04:00 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friend | Mar 03 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | False friend - Wikipedia | Mar 03 04:02 | |
| scientes | ...or the word sensible, which means reasonable in English, but sensitive in French and Spanish. | Mar 03 04:02 |
| scientes | I wonder if the word sensible meant that when Jane Austen wrote *Sense and Sensibility* | Mar 03 04:02 |
| XRevan86 | or the word pathetic | Mar 03 04:02 |
| scientes | because I think she meant sensitivity | Mar 03 04:02 |
| XRevan86 | (appealing to emotion) | Mar 03 04:03 |
| scientes | I asked if you understood Shakespeare, but native English speakers have difficulty with Shakespeare | Mar 03 04:03 |
| scientes | Jane Austen's prose is much easier, however the subject matter is more difficult, especially as people don't say what they mean | Mar 03 04:04 |
| scientes | well the later meaning of pathetic came out of the former https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pathetic | Mar 03 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dictionary.cambridge.org | PATHETIC | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary | Mar 03 04:06 | |
| scientes | but now that the pity meaning has gained prominence, I can see what you mean | Mar 03 04:06 |
| scientes | cause if something is worthless, it wouldn't be worth arousing any feelings over | Mar 03 04:07 |
| scientes | You are so pathetic I can't even tell you are trying. | Mar 03 04:09 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Except that the more original meaning was closer to "passionate" ;) | Mar 03 04:10 |
| scientes | or the Italian apassianato | Mar 03 04:10 |
| scientes | which is used in music | Mar 03 04:10 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82#Ancient_Greek | Mar 03 04:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wiktionary.org | παθητικός - Wiktionary | Mar 03 04:11 | |
| XRevan86 | > I asked if you understood Shakespeare, but native English speakers have difficulty with Shakespeare | Mar 03 04:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That doesn't surprise me. | Mar 03 04:13 |
| XRevan86 | I suspect that I have slightly *more* difficulty though. | Mar 03 04:14 |
| scientes | however it is the earlier English stuff that can be read in its original | Mar 03 04:17 |
| scientes | Utopia before it was written in Latin | Mar 03 04:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Interestingly, they did not test Opera, which has a Battery Saving Mode for mobile devices. | Mar 03 06:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Morty voice: "Firefox? That just sounds like Chrome with extra steps.". | Mar 03 07:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oooh la la! Someone's getting laid in college! | Mar 03 07:52 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-18 | Mar 03 18:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Have To Work Hard To Succeed - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-18 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 03 18:06 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/7bihxZi.jpg | Mar 03 18:13 |
| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-22 | Mar 03 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Catbert Personality Test - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-22 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 03 18:30 | |
| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-26 | Mar 03 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ceo Wants A Crypto Wallet - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-26 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 03 18:59 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/UFListf.gifv | Mar 03 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Mar 03 19:20 | |
| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-27 | Mar 03 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crypto Key - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-27 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 03 19:47 | |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-30 | Mar 03 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intentionally Underbidding - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-30 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Mar 03 20:34 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/581090 | Mar 03 20:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | In honor of black history month, our favorite African American | Mar 03 20:57 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I get it, but why "black history" then? | Mar 03 20:57 |
| MinceR | that's not the point | Mar 03 20:58 |
| MinceR | the point is the inaccuracy of the term "african-american" | Mar 03 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | But in making the point they made an inaccuracy of their own. | Mar 03 20:59 |
| MinceR | what inaccuracy? | Mar 03 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "Black history" hasn't much to do with him | Mar 03 21:00 |
| MinceR | it has something to do with "african-american"s though | Mar 03 21:02 |
| *DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: 53330485_1517582191714286_6276145979188051968_n.jpg (58KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/UpyGqstGCIqxkwSBHsUjgdpo > | Mar 03 21:10 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | the point is the inaccuracy of the term "african-american" | Mar 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just say "black people" if the clarification is necessary. | Mar 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Black" isn't a bad word. | Mar 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, if there's a reason to narrow it down. "The black guy over there wearing the red t-shirt.". | Mar 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | African American is not only incorrect, as-in, doesn't apply to black people except outside of the United States, or perhaps broadly, North or South American continents. | Mar 03 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it has, itself, been turned into a racist euphemism. | Mar 03 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People write "African American" in quotes or say it in a sneering tone of voice, to imply that they're being racist while using the term. | Mar 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Negro is questionable. It's correct to say that, if you're a Spanish speaker. | Mar 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But in English, it became a racist term. | Mar 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the "N-word" is never acceptable, if you're white, although some of them call each other that. | Mar 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | double standard | Mar 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or a contraction of it. | Mar 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Hey nigga, what's up!?" | Mar 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the older black people HATE that, most of them do. | Mar 03 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It's not really a contraction if one's using a non-rhotic accent. | Mar 03 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They roll their eyes or are visually upset. | Mar 03 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has been used to comedic effect. | Mar 03 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: What I find kind of peculiar is that when I was younger, a lot of kids on the block used to say "nigga" all the time | Mar 03 21:16 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgjwjaBJ5Do | Mar 03 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | influenced by rap or GTA:SA | Mar 03 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tokyo Breakfast - YouTube | Mar 03 21:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The movie Rush Hour, where Jackie Chan walks into a bar with a bunch of black people and says, in a thick Chinese accent, "What's up my nigger?". | Mar 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And starts a bar fight. | Mar 03 21:16 |
| MinceR | damn, that's the version with the damaged audio | Mar 03 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | And I wonder, is that bad, that they thought it's rad and cool? | Mar 03 21:17 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zxeJX-7tyg | Mar 03 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tokyo Breakfast - YouTube | Mar 03 21:17 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | DaemonFC: What I find kind of peculiar is that when I was younger, a lot of kids on the block used to say "nigga" all the time | Mar 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Russia? | Mar 03 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | related themselves | Mar 03 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Mar 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmmm, our bad habits do find their way everywhere. | Mar 03 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: My observation is that kids love rap | Mar 03 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why can't anyone model their behavior on something good that happens here? | Mar 03 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | DaemonFC: My observation is that kids love rap | Mar 03 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably, in context, a way of rebelling against the adults, authority, etc. They appropriated rap music to drive the adults crazy. | Mar 03 21:19 |
| MinceR | because most humans are evil | Mar 03 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Are you implying that the US ebonics is a bad influence? %) | Mar 03 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cultures change, but teenagers are like that almost everywhere. | Mar 03 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no particular reason to respect most of what's going on in the US or Russian federal governments, especially right now | Mar 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, they're right. Let's hope they don't grow out of their disgust with the system. | Mar 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most citizens don't want foreign incursions, lots of nuclear weapons, dictators and would-be ones. | Mar 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Either they won't change it or they eventually find that their apathy has enabled politicians to change the system so they can't change it even if they wake up. | Mar 03 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | Mother Anarchy, Father a Port Wine Glass :) | Mar 03 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Satire of American influence in Japan? | Mar 03 21:27 |
| MinceR | could be | Mar 03 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Some want a stronk leader | Mar 03 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | who will jail all the bad guys | Mar 03 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | Systemic issues aren't as easy to grasp as "bad guys – bad" | Mar 03 21:37 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/580988.png | Mar 03 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A smartass | Mar 03 21:46 |
| MinceR | more like a troll | Mar 03 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | not contradictory | Mar 03 21:48 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/SZ2P1Gd.gifv | Mar 03 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Mar 03 22:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | who will jail all the bad guys | Mar 03 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gay people. | Mar 03 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With our gay propaganda. | Mar 03 22:51 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/580910.jpg | Mar 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's very fabulous propaganda. | Mar 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Does Hungaristan put gay people in prison yet? | Mar 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or have you evolved and sent them to the gas chambers? | Mar 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | i haven't heard of it happening yet | Mar 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure they intend to get ther | Mar 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | e | Mar 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | with the guidance of their comrade putin | Mar 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is an example of the US sending the wrong signaling to the world. How we treat refugees and asylum seekers. | Mar 03 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of letting them form a line and fill out paperwork and maybe get temporary status while things move, we just fire rubber bullets and tear gas at them now. | Mar 03 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I don't want to guess how long those bullets will be bean bag and rubber. | Mar 03 22:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/wc8SgrZmMm0 | Mar 03 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Путин. Вы меня рассмешили! - YouTube | Mar 03 22:56 | |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/IIOwR8Jepb4?t=50 | Mar 03 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Рамзан Кадыров олимпийским судьям: Не дай Аллах, если вы обидите наших спортсменов - YouTube | Mar 03 22:58 | |
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