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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-09-26Feb 24 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Policy Against Lying - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-09-26 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 24 00:08
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/tiSgElTThSaSrrBuuLdBZWir >Feb 24 02:13
DaemonFC[m](From a Facebook post.) ^ MinceR Feb 24 02:13
DaemonFC[m]If IKEA taught us anything, it's that they're nuts!Feb 24 02:14
DaemonFC[m]You're standing there with a drill driver and some "instructions" that show stick figures doing.....something....there's always extra parts left over, and the beds and frames are not standard size.Feb 24 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Living in Chicago is getting bad because of that. It's like, "Okay pal, take your Adidas and futbal and go yell at someone in Terrorist someplace else.".Feb 24 02:17
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Chicago is so annoyingly politically correct that every time John makes an "offensive" joke about someone I say "John, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the Chicago Verbal Morality Statute!".Feb 24 02:18
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AdmFubarhttps://boingboing.net/2019/02/22/my-voice-is-my-passport-2.htmlFeb 24 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | This is bad: the UAE's favorite sleazeball cybermercenaries have applied for permission to break Mozilla's web encryption / Boing BoingFeb 24 02:49
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schestowitzhmmmFeb 24 04:20
schestowitzTechrights appearing in Google News and Google Alerts now :-)Feb 24 04:20
schestowitzcoolFeb 24 04:20
schestowitz"Feb 24 04:20
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schestowitzDaily update ⋅ 24 February 2019Feb 24 04:20
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schestowitzVIDEO Feb 24 04:20
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schestowitzAlexandre Benalla Speaks About His Relationship With BattistelliFeb 24 04:21
schestowitzTechrightsFeb 24 04:21
schestowitzBattistelli as EPO President gave Benalla a lot of money, legitimised him, and gave him the go-ahead to illegally bring weapons to EPO premises; ...Feb 24 04:21
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schestowitz[02:49] <AdmFubar> https://boingboing.net/2019/02/22/my-voice-is-my-passport-2.htmlFeb 24 04:23
schestowitzthis is already in daily links and in  http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121007Feb 24 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Certificates, Spectre, Switzerland and Dark Overlord | Tux MachinesFeb 24 04:23
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oiaohmschestowitz: really there has been a long list over the time of different CA sellling cybermercnaries wild card certificates.   Maybe this that they are attempting for a normal CA include is that getting these is getting harder.Feb 24 05:01
schestowitzNotice Mozilla's role, oiaohmFeb 24 05:10
oiaohmschestowitz: https://blog.qualys.com/ssllabs/2017/09/26/google-and-mozilla-deprecating-existing-symantec-certificates   I have a longer time frame.Feb 24 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.qualys.com | Google and Mozilla are Deprecating Existing Symantec Certificates | Qualys BlogFeb 24 05:17
oiaohmYes back before 2017 those cybermercnaries could use full wild card CA they bought from Symantec and they did.Feb 24 05:17
oiaohmschestowitz: this of cybermernaries attempting to get means to replaced content is nothing new.   The fact they applied to be directly include in browser where there CA could be administartors be marked simply as untrusted is new.Feb 24 05:19
oiaohmIn the past is been what CA even a CA with possible a good name as sold master keys to these pains.Feb 24 05:20
oiaohmDarkMatter was already given an "intermediate" certificate by another company, called QuoVadis, now owned by DigiCert.  << This is still the right to do what every they like.Feb 24 05:23
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.digicert.com/news/digicert-completes-acquisition-of-symantec-ssl/  That for those in the know.   QuoVadis that is now DigiCert is the old symantec selling to cyber pests under a new companies.Feb 24 05:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DigiCert Completes Acquisition of Symantec’s Website SecurityFeb 24 05:25
DaemonFC[m]Nobody ever really pointed out to me how horrible other white people are until I got with John and Austin and then I noticed it.  Now I can't stand other white people. Feb 24 06:28
DaemonFC[m]"Can I help you find something." as-in "Are you shoplifting?".Feb 24 06:29
DaemonFC[m]Never happened until I was around one of them. Now because one is black and the other is Hispanic it happens to me while I'm with one them.Feb 24 06:29
DaemonFC[m]But not when it's just me in a store. Feb 24 06:29
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schestowitzoiaohm: thanks for the infoFeb 24 09:14
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XRevan86https://assets.amuniversal.com/654b5400fc1d01367996005056a9545dFeb 24 12:22
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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: lol @ jettaFeb 24 13:59
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAhR1MLGYNUFeb 24 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Crushed an Audi and a Kia with My Land Rover Defender - YouTubeFeb 24 14:00
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MinceRhttp://www.kohney.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/soit-wizard-never-bein-late.jpgFeb 24 14:33
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XRevan86MinceR: "Oh well, a wizard knows a time reversal spell"Feb 24 14:34
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/EOwsh3a.gifvFeb 24 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurFeb 24 14:59
MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-02Feb 24 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Death In The Family - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-02 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 24 15:28
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-06Feb 24 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spending The Company's Money - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2018-10-06 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 24 19:15
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/baNAIYCFeb 24 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I had to share this with you people - Album on ImgurFeb 24 19:36
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/581425.jpgFeb 24 20:01
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/581371.jpgFeb 24 20:32
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MinceR:)Feb 24 20:36
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/HxWITQH.gifvFeb 24 20:54
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/581347.jpgFeb 24 21:57
XRevan86cubexyz: Captain Picard in the episode Homeward: https://youtu.be/YFFo7xz69t0Feb 24 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If He Dies He Dies - YouTubeFeb 24 22:07
XRevan86full of strawpersonsFeb 24 22:07
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/581187.jpgFeb 24 22:27
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRlzFIgm1EFeb 25 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Star Trek: The Libertarian Edition - YouTubeFeb 25 01:24
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scienteswhy the hell does the us military internal websites use self-signed certificates?Feb 25 01:33
scienteshttps://gps.afspc.af.mil/Feb 25 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://gps.afspc.af.mil/ )Feb 25 01:33
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schestowitzscientes: they are the authorityFeb 25 03:32
schestowitzauthority and world policeFeb 25 03:32
scientesyeah but i would assume they would have their own internal authorityFeb 25 03:32
schestowitzthe Internet started in the US militaryFeb 25 03:33
schestowitzso....Feb 25 03:33
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121024 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8df33f12-9f7f-4846-a4b1-cefe8bbd1397]Feb 25 07:00
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MinceRneither of my shitty excuses for browsers will let me see the certificates for that siteFeb 25 07:19
XRevan86MinceR: Worked for me with Firefox.Feb 25 07:20
MinceRnot even failfox does it for meFeb 25 07:21
MinceRfor all this wanking about security, one would think such a critical security feature would be widely and easily availableFeb 25 07:21
XRevan86MinceR: Press "Add exception…", then "Show…"Feb 25 07:23
*MinceR facepalmsFeb 25 07:23
MinceRthat works in palemoon, doesn't in crashiumFeb 25 07:25
XRevan86MinceR: Click on the "Not secure" badge, then "Certificate"Feb 25 07:26
MinceRin any case, there's no self-signed certificate in the path i getFeb 25 07:27
MinceRtheir root CA is not known to my browsers, which doesn't seem so surprisingFeb 25 07:27
schestowitznewscorp feeding an idiotFeb 25 07:27
schestowitzhttps://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/david-icke-how-the-worlds-greatest-conspiracy-theorist-discovered-his-personal-truth/news-story/1957dc4f70b3734747a9b0dc17b5c66fFeb 25 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | David Icke interview: world’s greatest conspiracy theoristFeb 25 07:27
schestowitzdon't clickFeb 25 07:27
XRevan86MinceR: That sounds self-signed, no?Feb 25 07:27
schestowitzwtd has media become?Feb 25 07:27
MinceRnoFeb 25 07:27
MinceRissuer and subject are not the sameFeb 25 07:27
XRevan86"U.S. Government"Feb 25 07:27
schestowitzUSG, Inc.Feb 25 07:28
schestowitzCEO TrumpFeb 25 07:28
MinceRthat's only the OFeb 25 07:28
MinceRin the CNs, i get "DoD Root CA 1" issuing a cert for "DOD ID SW CA-37" issuing a cert for "gcdsaf22.af.mil"Feb 25 07:29
XRevan86Still that's their own CA.Feb 25 07:30
MinceRi can totally understand the DoD not relying on the public PKI and using their own infrastructure insteadFeb 25 07:31
XRevan86"U.S. Government DoD PKI Root"Feb 25 07:31
MinceRthey probably don't want some random rogue CA help someone take over one of their sitesFeb 25 07:31
XRevan86> world’s greatest conspiracy theoristFeb 25 07:31
XRevan86Ambitious.Feb 25 07:31
MinceR:>Feb 25 07:31
MinceRobviously, all other candidates for the title are merely a conspiracy to depose himFeb 25 07:32
MinceR> newscorp feeding an idiotFeb 25 07:32
MinceRnewscorp pointing and saying "see, we're not the greatest nutcases around!"Feb 25 07:32
XRevan86MinceR: ZOG and Big Pharma want their own puppet guy to take his place.Feb 25 07:34
MinceR:>Feb 25 07:34
XRevan86VPN-less I couldn't access the https://gps.afspc.af.mil/Feb 25 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gps.afspc.af.mil | NO TITLEFeb 25 07:39
XRevan86One more Russian hacking attempt logged? :)Feb 25 07:39
schestowitzlolFeb 25 07:39
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/19/russia-moves-to-mask-soldiers-digital-trail-with-smartphone-banFeb 25 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Russia moves to mask its soldiers' digital trail with smartphone ban | World news | The GuardianFeb 25 07:41
schestowitzgrauniadFeb 25 07:41
schestowitzpusher of russophobia every dayFeb 25 07:41
XRevan86> mask digital trail with banFeb 25 07:43
XRevan86that's interesting wordingFeb 25 07:43
schestowitzhttps://www.coindesk.com/andreas-m-antonopoulos-warns-against-ethereum-community-in-fightingFeb 25 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Andreas M. Antonopoulos Warns Against Ethereum In-Fighting - CoinDeskFeb 25 07:44
XRevan86about security…Feb 25 07:45
XRevan86> curl -kI https://gps.afspc.af.mil/Feb 25 07:45
XRevan86> Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0Feb 25 07:45
XRevan86Windows Server 2003Feb 25 07:46
schestowitzhttps://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-core-developer-quits-social-media-over-conflict-of-interest-attacksFeb 25 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ethereum Core Developer Quits Over 'Conflict of Interest' Attacks - CoinDeskFeb 25 07:47
schestowitzXRevan86: don't worry, I'm sure they have the latest Service Pack :-)Feb 25 07:48
schestowitzand they will shoot anyone who dares speak out about all their security icidentsFeb 25 07:48
XRevan86schestowitz: No doubt, they're professionals :)Feb 25 07:49
XRevan86Only unprofessional people try to hide IIS behind nginx, Apache httpd, H2O or Caddy, or at least mask the exact version used.Feb 25 07:50
XRevan86Professionals know: when Microsoft is on their side, nothing bad will happen to themFeb 25 07:51
schestowitzWhen something bad happens, they Wanna CryFeb 25 07:51
MinceR25 084521 <+XRevan86> > Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0Feb 25 07:51
MinceRlolFeb 25 07:51
MinceR'murukan engineeringFeb 25 07:52
XRevan86> they probably don't want some random rogue CA help someone take over one of their sitesFeb 25 07:52
XRevan86MinceR: I no longer think that's plausableFeb 25 07:52
MinceRwhy?Feb 25 07:52
XRevan86MinceR: It's not like they care about attack vectorsFeb 25 07:53
MinceRmaybe the two decisions were made by different peopleFeb 25 07:53
XRevan86trueFeb 25 07:54
XRevan86But then again, slapping nginx on top is not that hard to do.Feb 25 07:57
XRevan86It's possible that they have and just push the Server header through, but… why would anyone do that/Feb 25 07:58
MinceRthrowing out the crap and running a unix webserver is even easierFeb 25 07:59
XRevan86thus I assume IIS 6.0 is looking into the nets unguardedFeb 25 07:59
XRevan86MinceR: It could be convoluted, who knows.Feb 25 08:00
XRevan86MinceR: I bet there's ASP.NET somewhere in this equation.Feb 25 08:01
MinceReven though it shouldn't, as it's crapFeb 25 08:01
XRevan86Either way, I shouldn't've found out about their IIS 6.0 that easily.Feb 25 08:03
MinceRmaybe it's a red herring :>Feb 25 08:03
XRevan86more like a honeypotFeb 25 08:05
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schestowitzDafaqsdat? None in DC?Feb 25 08:44
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XRevan86cubexyz: The episode Genesis taught me that somewhere on the evolutionary stages of homo sapiens there were… arachnids.Feb 25 21:51
XRevan86I didn't know that. So much to learn.Feb 25 21:51
MinceRLRH taught us that at another stage there were clams.Feb 25 21:55
MinceRPoor little clams! Snap! Snap! Snap!Feb 25 21:55
XRevan86Science!Feb 25 21:56
MinceRindeed.Feb 25 21:57
XRevan86https://i1.wp.com/www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/OnePunchMan.pic1_.Crabrante.jpg?resize=1200%2C676 a human meets his ancient ancestorFeb 25 21:58
MinceRcrab people, crab people. taste like crab, talk like people!Feb 25 22:00
XRevan86But don't eat people, regardless of how they taste like.Feb 25 22:04
XRevan86without their consent^UFeb 25 22:04
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That came awfully close to racism.Feb 25 22:13
DaemonFC[m]Now if you said fish people, like Adventure Time implied, that would be racist.Feb 25 22:14
XRevan86I think I'm missing some sociocultural context…Feb 25 22:14
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Asians. Feb 25 22:15
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Because sushi and stuff?Feb 25 22:16
DaemonFC[m]Pendleton Ward managed to sneak in a lot of things that you'd never notice if you don't watch closely enough.Feb 25 22:16
DaemonFC[m]No, "fish heads".Feb 25 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Racist term.Feb 25 22:17
XRevan86or if you simply had no ideaFeb 25 22:17
DaemonFC[m]So Adventure Time had people who are part fish.Feb 25 22:17
DaemonFC[m]It didn't come out and say it, but that's what it was getting at.Feb 25 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Many people probably never noticed.Feb 25 22:18
XRevan86> fish headsFeb 25 22:18
XRevan86What the actual fsckFeb 25 22:18
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Still, it's possible this is just a coincidence.Feb 25 22:24
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XRevan86Or purposeful neglect of crap.Feb 25 22:25
XRevan86> To us, nothing that happens is truly random.Feb 25 22:40
XRevan86So wise.Feb 25 22:40
XRevan86I'll feed this phrase into my random phrase spit botFeb 25 22:41
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DaemonFC[m]efwFeb 26 04:51
DaemonFC[m]Eh, damn Riot.Feb 26 04:51
DaemonFC[m]Malory: “Effective immediately I”m promoting Cyril to field agent.” Sterling: “WHAT!?” “Hey, that sounds great. Best of luck.” Malory: “Where do you think you’re going?” Sterling: "Oh sorry. I’ve got to get back to Earth before the stargate closes.” Feb 26 04:52
DaemonFC[m]"Mother, the chevrons are locking!"Feb 26 04:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: ^Feb 26 04:52
DaemonFC[m](Archer)Feb 26 04:52
DaemonFC[m]TIL: "A screwdriver with one part of Sloe gin, one part of Southern Comfort, one part Galliano, one part tequila and filled with orange juice is a "Slow Comfortable Screw Up Against The Wall Mexican Style"."Feb 26 04:58
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MinceR25 231407 <+DaemonFC[m]> Now if you said fish people, like Adventure Time implied, that would be racist.Feb 26 06:58
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTHn2tHhcIFeb 26 06:58
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XRevan86Monach University?Feb 26 21:23
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scientesgeeze, reddit has turned into what Facebook turned intoFeb 27 12:01
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gde33👎Feb 27 12:40
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schestowitz[12:01] <scientes> geeze, reddit has turned into what Facebook turned intoFeb 27 16:49
schestowitzin what sense?Feb 27 16:49
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/dy5bspk.gifvFeb 27 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | "Splish splash I was taking a bath ....and loving it!"Feb 27 17:02
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gde33It happened when the Swartz left the buildingFeb 27 17:03
schestowitzdid he do much thereFeb 27 17:12
schestowitzhe left shortly after they bought the companyFeb 27 17:12
schestowitzI heard his name is just exploited by them for marketingFeb 27 17:12
schestowitzthe geek wunderkindFeb 27 17:12
gde33https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txtFeb 27 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Full text of "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto"Feb 27 17:13
gde33in the future people will say, wow, if he talked like that no wonder he got killedFeb 27 17:15
gde33what did he expect?Feb 27 17:15
scientesgde33, anyone who speaks with that much confidence about the future is usually a foolFeb 27 17:18
MinceRmay the Swartz be with youFeb 27 17:18
scientes^^^^Feb 27 17:18
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scientesThey're COMBING the dessert?Feb 27 17:19
scientesDo you think we are taking this a little too literally?Feb 27 17:19
MinceR:>Feb 27 17:19
scientesWhen was THIS in the movie?Feb 27 17:20
MinceRnow.Feb 27 17:20
gde33scientes: it was suppose to be funny, you were the only one who didn't get it. lolFeb 27 17:20
MinceRanyway, what changed about facebook?Feb 27 17:20
scientesMinceR, its all politics and tin-foil hatsFeb 27 17:21
scientesactually I have no idea, haven't used Facebook for yearsFeb 27 17:21
scientesbut it was already becoming that when I leftFeb 27 17:21
MinceRi thought it was always shitFeb 27 17:23
scientes10 years ago it was socialFeb 27 17:24
scientesstil a waste of time, but much more socialFeb 27 17:24
scientesI think what happens is that these social networks get taken over by anti-social people that are on there because they are afraid to talk to people in real lifeFeb 27 17:26
gde33scientes: not afraid to talk, they just dont have anyone to talk with anymore or never did, that way they have a lot more time to invest than social people.Feb 27 17:40
gde33I remmeber when kids played world of warcraft their entire youth entirely without interacting with anyone everFeb 27 17:41
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scientesChina has a whole industry of live video chats with femalesFeb 27 17:42
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DaemonFC[m]https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/anti-cheat-software-causing-big-problems-for-windows-10-previews/Feb 27 20:16
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XRevan86cubexyz: I wonder if the appearance of the DS9 spin-off is what caused the ST:TNG universe to develop… commerce, capitalism.Feb 27 20:24
XRevan86It's no longer space communism %)Feb 27 20:25
XRevan86In the episode Firstborn (S07E21) the word "money" was used in a mandane context (not Holodeck history or foreign relations).Feb 27 20:28
XRevan86I wonder why replicators cannot handle that. Copyrighted material?Feb 27 20:32
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MinceRit never wasFeb 27 21:33
MinceRpeople didn't space starveFeb 27 21:33
MinceRnor did they have space censorshipFeb 27 21:33
MinceRiirc there weren't even any space gulagsFeb 27 21:34
XRevan86MinceR: It, at least partly, had common ownership of the means of production.Feb 27 21:45
XRevan86the means being the replicatorsFeb 27 21:46
MinceRwhich are not the only means of productionFeb 27 21:46
XRevan86not the Stargate ones :)Feb 27 21:46
XRevan86MinceR: Theoretically they can construct anything depending on their size.Feb 27 21:47
XRevan86including parts for larger replicators %)Feb 27 21:47
MinceRyet other ways of producing things exist and are practiced, are they not?Feb 27 21:47
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not quite sure.Feb 27 21:48
MinceRalso, weren't the ferengi using something that could not be replicated as money?Feb 27 21:49
XRevan86I've only seen evidence of that in the late seasons, with mining, resource-based currency, etc.Feb 27 21:49
XRevan86MinceR: Latinum. I cannot remember it was explicitly stated as something unreplicatable.Feb 27 21:50
XRevan86and it's a late addition as wellFeb 27 21:50
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DaemonFC[m]also, weren't the ferengi using something that could not be replicated as money?Feb 27 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Something called latinum.Feb 27 21:52
DaemonFC[m]They don't ever really say what it's for, iirc.Feb 27 21:53
DaemonFC[m]They refer to it as "liquid" or bars of "gold pressed latinum".Feb 27 21:53
XRevan86S07E04 Gambit – introduction of LatinumFeb 27 21:53
XRevan86I wasn't sure, but it's Season 7 again.Feb 27 21:53
DaemonFC[m]How do you know this.Feb 27 21:53
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=st%3Atng+introduction+of+latinum&t=ffab&ia=web :)Feb 27 21:54
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MinceRmemory alpha? :>Feb 27 21:54
DaemonFC[m]I'm busy daytime drinking at the moment and wandered into this discussion.Feb 27 21:54
DaemonFC[m]Ah, okFeb 27 21:54
XRevan86Sixth result – IMDB with "Trivia note: gold pressed latinum mentioned for the first time on TNG." on the episode.Feb 27 21:54
XRevan86This reminds me of a speech made by Picard earlier in the series, where he said that humans no longer value possessions.Feb 27 21:56
XRevan86which is as anti-capitalist as it getsFeb 27 21:57
MinceRor just post-scarcityFeb 27 21:58
XRevan86https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Neutral_Zone_%28episode%29Feb 27 21:58
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XRevan86> People are no longer obsessed with the accumulation of things. We've eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions.Feb 27 21:58
MinceRwhat would happen if someone used a publicly owned replicator to produce a replicator of the same size, assembled it and kept it for their own use?Feb 27 21:59
XRevan86MinceR: Since anyone can do the same, what's the big deal?Feb 27 21:59
MinceRexactlyFeb 27 22:00
MinceRso what would they need a prohibition on private property for?Feb 27 22:00
XRevan86MinceR: You've just explained space communism :PFeb 27 22:00
MinceRno, i just explained how it isn't communismFeb 27 22:00
XRevan86property loses meaningFeb 27 22:01
MinceRnot reallyFeb 27 22:01
MinceRdo people keep secrets? do they have privacy?Feb 27 22:02
XRevan86Is this the private vs. personal property debate?Feb 27 22:02
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Feb 27 22:03
MinceRseems to me the only alleged component of "communism" that's present is something people can't regulate and for now can't have, only hope that someday people will have itFeb 27 22:03
MinceRnone of the elements of trying to cope with scarcity (the wrong way) are presentFeb 27 22:04
XRevan86MinceR: In ST:TNG it's sustained by magic, but still.Feb 27 22:05
MinceRnot technology?Feb 27 22:05
XRevan86MinceR: magic technologyFeb 27 22:05
MinceReither way, it's more than some sort of economical regulationFeb 27 22:05
XRevan86MinceR: True, but they have been vague enough to keep it a possibility.Feb 27 22:06
MinceRwhere would that possibility materialize?Feb 27 22:06
XRevan86and that Picard quote is a big hint that the accumulation of capital is no longer the driverFeb 27 22:07
MinceRof course it isn'tFeb 27 22:07
MinceRit can't be, once scarcity is eliminatedFeb 27 22:07
MinceR...by technologyFeb 27 22:07
XRevan86Heck knows what makes the Federation ticks, but it isn't the corporate money.Feb 27 22:07
MinceRthis has nothing to do with marx's failed theoriesFeb 27 22:07
XRevan86MinceR: We have no scarcity in IT, do weFeb 27 22:08
MinceRhumans acting uncharacteristically (tolerating each other and cooperating) is what makes the federation tickFeb 27 22:08
MinceRwe doFeb 27 22:08
MinceRunfortunatelyFeb 27 22:08
XRevan86MinceR: Still the capitalist presence shapes it _a_lot_Feb 27 22:08
MinceRwe have lots of itFeb 27 22:08
MinceRwe even have plenty of artificial scarcityFeb 27 22:08
MinceRwe have copyrights, trademarks, patents, DRM, corporate secretsFeb 27 22:08
XRevan86MinceR: That's the pointFeb 27 22:08
MinceRwe have finite computing capacity, finite storage capacityFeb 27 22:09
XRevan86MinceR: To have commerce, one needs a seller and a buyerFeb 27 22:09
XRevan86someone has to sell programmes, someone has to buy themFeb 27 22:09
XRevan86When there's no scarcity, programmes are freely available, there's a problem.Feb 27 22:10
MinceRno, not reallyFeb 27 22:10
MinceRi use lots of programs i haven't boughtFeb 27 22:10
XRevan86MinceR: And their creators probably get by by other means than direct sell of their programmes for profit.Feb 27 22:12
MinceRand your point is?Feb 27 22:12
XRevan86MinceR: Where would capitalism be without inequality, prestige, competition in production?Feb 27 22:12
MinceRnot sureFeb 27 22:13
XRevan86accelerated growth of sellsFeb 27 22:13
MinceRit seems to me that in a post-scarcity society these concepts of "capitalism" and "communism" become meaninglessFeb 27 22:13
XRevan86To me the desire to possess seems extremely important for capitalism to simply be.Feb 27 22:13
XRevan86MinceR: In a post-scarcity world scarcity has to be created.Feb 27 22:15
MinceRdoesn't seem like that to meFeb 27 22:15
XRevan86MinceR: For the machine to tick. Otherwise the ends won't be met.Feb 27 22:15
MinceRseems to me that competition can create better things (including services and pieces of information) even if those things aren't ownedFeb 27 22:15
MinceRas for creating scarcity, that's for masochists and fascistsFeb 27 22:15
MinceRwithout scarcity, you don't need to meet endsFeb 27 22:16
MinceRyou can just live happilyFeb 27 22:16
XRevan86MinceR: Ownership defines capitalism.Feb 27 22:16
MinceRXRevan86: ownership also defines communismFeb 27 22:17
XRevan86MinceR: In a way that it's abolished.Feb 27 22:17
MinceRno, in a way that it's forbiddenFeb 27 22:18
XRevan86MinceR: Unless your definition of Communism happens to be the same as StalinismFeb 27 22:18
MinceRor reserved for the masters you're not supposed to be aware ofFeb 27 22:18
XRevan86MinceR: I wonder how you look at Anarcho-CommunismFeb 27 22:18
MinceRno, in communism it's forbidden; in stalinism it's reserved to the dictatorFeb 27 22:18
MinceRi'm not quite sure what anarcho-communism even isFeb 27 22:18
MinceRhow do its proponents imagine the ban on private property would be enforced?Feb 27 22:19
MinceRis it merely a state of mind?Feb 27 22:19
XRevan86MinceR: Culturaly, yesFeb 27 22:19
MinceRor is the community supposed to take away instances of private property?Feb 27 22:19
MinceRbecause if it's merely a state of mind then it should be able to coexist with all other forms of anarchismFeb 27 22:19
MinceRharmlesslyFeb 27 22:19
MinceRand there's no need to fight about which subclass of anarchism one believes inFeb 27 22:20
XRevan86MinceR: I'm not an anarchist myself, so I won't try to argue.Feb 27 22:20
XRevan86MinceR: But I don't think pure Anarchism can be sustainable without it being global.Feb 27 22:21
MinceRwhy not?Feb 27 22:21
MinceRcan anarchists not band together to defend their common interests?Feb 27 22:21
MinceRor even hire mercenary companies to do so?Feb 27 22:22
XRevan86MinceR: Hard to have an organised army service without a state, I think.Feb 27 22:22
MinceRi thought one of the foundations of anarchism _was_ the ability to self-organize without coercionFeb 27 22:22
XRevan86MinceR: Even democratic countries have Martial LawFeb 27 22:23
MinceRwhich makes them (hopefully temporarily) undemocraticFeb 27 22:23
XRevan86which implies a distrust that a democratic government can handle a military situationFeb 27 22:23
MinceRthat should be the distrusters' problemFeb 27 22:24
XRevan86then what about no government at all?Feb 27 22:24
XRevan86MinceR: Which would be almost everyone.Feb 27 22:24
MinceRdon't build a governmentless society if you don't trust your ability to live without a government?Feb 27 22:24
XRevan86¯\_(ツ)_/¯Feb 27 22:25
MinceRwell yes, the greatest hurdle to having a stateless society is people's burning desire to rule over others and/or being oppressed by othersFeb 27 22:25
XRevan86MinceR: But anyway, yes, in a communist state the government won't allow one to acquire exclusive ownership over property, things that are most likely taxed today such as buildings, vehicles, stretches of land, etc.Feb 27 22:30
MinceRinstead the government would insist on keeping ownership of all thatFeb 27 22:30
MinceRwhich is a rather extreme form of oppression even before you start to consider the horrible things they'd also have to do in order to be able to keep getting away with thisFeb 27 22:31
XRevan86MinceR: In an actually communist state the government won't use it either.Feb 27 22:31
MinceRriiiiiightFeb 27 22:31
MinceRbecause it would consist of angels, not humansFeb 27 22:31
MinceRin any case, what would that even mean?Feb 27 22:32
MinceRbuildings and roads are just abandoned and not maintained nor built anymore?Feb 27 22:32
XRevan86MinceR: Or well-thought laws and well-designed balances against corruption…Feb 27 22:32
MinceRriiiiightFeb 27 22:32
MinceRbecause that worked so well so farFeb 27 22:32
XRevan86MinceR: It seems like a screwed government screws one regardless of the way the property is managed.Feb 27 22:33
MinceRyesFeb 27 22:34
MinceRand the more extensive the government is, the more extensively it gets to screw everyoneFeb 27 22:34
MinceRif you put the government in charge of more property, that makes it more extensiveFeb 27 22:35
MinceR(but is not the only way of doing so)Feb 27 22:35
XRevan86MinceR: True, but then again, the more weaker it gets when it fails to deliver.Feb 27 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: The modern Russian Federation manages to survive despite having a government that doesn't even try to work.Feb 27 22:37
MinceRand apparently the "conservatives" keep forgetting that putting the government in charge of enforcing religious rules against people is very far from "small government"Feb 27 22:37
XRevan86So "fail early" (:Feb 27 22:37
MinceRwell, we'll see how far the russian government can make its subjects poorer and poorer until it collapsesFeb 27 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: The USSR collapsed in just ~15 years after it started to lose it.Feb 27 22:39
XRevan86The RF never stopped losing it, and it exists for almost 30 years now.Feb 27 22:39
MinceRlosing what?Feb 27 22:39
XRevan86MinceR: Doing the things it has taken on doing.Feb 27 22:40
MinceRuh huhFeb 27 22:41
XRevan86It always boils down to whether the state can deliver and its willingness to adapt when the people want them to.Feb 27 22:46
XRevan86MinceR: The rise of an Oligopoly is also a failure on the state's account.Feb 27 22:48
XRevan86A smaller capitalist government can fail too.Feb 27 22:49
MinceRit seems to always boil down to the fact that we can't manage corruption and the state is a hotbed of corruptionFeb 27 22:50
MinceRoh, and that this makes it questionable whether we can rightly hand such power to small groups of peopleFeb 27 22:50
XRevan86MinceR: I guess that's why democracy is so important.Feb 27 22:51
MinceRno, that's one of the reasons why democracy is failingFeb 27 22:51
XRevan86MinceR: Just as anything, it has to be refined.Feb 27 22:52
XRevan86we're just not there yet, I supposeFeb 27 22:52
MinceRmaybe we won't ever beFeb 27 22:53
XRevan86MinceR: Maybe we won't have a perfect Operating System too.Feb 27 22:53
MinceRat least we don't give operating systems the right to arrest, incarcerate, let alone execute people.Feb 27 22:54
MinceRor to take away their property.Feb 27 22:54
XRevan86MinceR: The changelog for Windows 11Feb 27 22:55
MinceRit qualified? :>Feb 27 22:55
XRevan86MinceR: It will be glorious %)Feb 27 22:55
MinceRhopefully it won't get to rule over my neck of the woodsFeb 27 22:56
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XRevan86MinceR: I think it will be a long while until we get democracy right.Feb 27 22:58
MinceRif everFeb 27 22:58
MinceRand it seems the species are giving up on it alreadyFeb 27 22:58
XRevan86MinceR: It's a big and unstable world.Feb 27 22:59
MinceRand it's also becoming a hot and wet worldFeb 27 22:59
XRevan86another way a small capitalist government can fail us allFeb 27 23:00
XRevan86(small capitalist == libertarian)Feb 27 23:00
XRevan86because to reduce climate change we'd have to *gasp*, regulate!Feb 27 23:01
MinceRi fail to see the significance of "capitalist" in thisFeb 27 23:01
MinceRthen again, maybe the north korean way is the way to goFeb 27 23:02
MinceRmake sure your slaves starve to death and then they'll stop affecting the environment negativelyFeb 27 23:02
MinceRonce they decompose fullyFeb 27 23:02
XRevan86MinceR: When major production is not in the hands of entrepreneurs, it's easier to push climate-regulation restrictions.Feb 27 23:02
MinceRunless the people supposed to push them are in the pockets of megacorporationsFeb 27 23:03
XRevan86MinceR: Oligopoly is capitalist by definition.Feb 27 23:03
MinceRare state-owned megacorporations also capitalist by definition?Feb 27 23:03
XRevan86MinceR: Hm, depends on how they're organised.Feb 27 23:05
XRevan86but if they have that much influence, then that would imply a very big pocket of cashFeb 27 23:05
XRevan86State-owned megacorporations are run by state officials. If there's no money laundering involved (like in the RF), then there's nothing politically significant about these persons.Feb 27 23:08
XRevan86and the key word in "money laundering" is "money"Feb 27 23:09
MinceRthe merger of big business and state is always trouble regardless of whether it happened by state capture, the state taking over business or by some other meansFeb 27 23:11
MinceRbad news for competitors, bad news for clients, bad news for citizensFeb 27 23:12
XRevan86MinceR: It depends. We were talking about the influence of this on democracy though.Feb 27 23:14
XRevan86and the ability of a state-owned corportaion to influence politics depends on its ability to accumulate capitalFeb 27 23:17
XRevan86and that depends on the length of the leash it's onFeb 27 23:18
XRevan86Unfortunately, the word "scrutiny" is not yet in the Russians vocabulary.Feb 27 23:25
XRevan86no, seriously, how do I translate it? :DFeb 27 23:26
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I hate that kind of workFeb 28 06:27
schestowitzalways takes double or more what you expectFeb 28 06:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Feb 28 06:46
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Feb 28 06:46
DaemonFC[m]Spent 2 hours so far on just the three drawer cabinetFeb 28 06:46
DaemonFC[m]Put one of the drawers together upside down and had to take it apart and redo it.Feb 28 06:47
DaemonFC[m]:PFeb 28 06:47
DaemonFC[m]Don't do things while tired.Feb 28 06:47
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DaemonFC[m]I stopped and made myself a mixer a moment ago.Feb 28 07:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I stripped one of the parts and had to force it the rest of the way in with pliers.Feb 28 07:04
DaemonFC[m]:PFeb 28 07:04
DaemonFC[m]No, I would say this is triple what I expected.Feb 28 07:04
DaemonFC[m]JesusFeb 28 07:07
DaemonFC[m]This last knob doesn't want to go all the way in.Feb 28 07:07
DaemonFC[m]Fighting me like a sob.Feb 28 07:07
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schestowitz[06:47] <DaemonFC[m]> Put one of the drawers together upside down and had to take it apart and redo it.Feb 28 08:33
schestowitzhappens tooFeb 28 08:33
schestowitzsometimes you wonder if it's worth the time correcting (for some errors)Feb 28 08:34
schestowitzlike forgetting to insert reinforcersFeb 28 08:34
schestowitz[07:04] <DaemonFC[m]> No, I would say this is triple what I expected.Feb 28 08:34
schestowitzIf it's a big project and I have no tools like a drill (must borrow), I then end up with blisters tooFeb 28 08:35
schestowitzand sometimes ripped apart gloves, from the time the blisters are too sore and I rely on something to east the painFeb 28 08:35
schestowitzif you charge for assembly labour (your time), these  are expensiveFeb 28 08:36
schestowitzsame for bicyclesFeb 28 08:36
schestowitzI never assembles one from a box, also for safety reasonsFeb 28 08:36
schestowitzthe pros can assemble these quickly, they have tool and work in parallel, specialty can make it a matter of minutes, not hoursFeb 28 08:37
DaemonFC[m]I assembled a bicycle myself once.Feb 28 08:39
DaemonFC[m]I bought it on Amazon.Feb 28 08:39
gde33https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/26/facebook-vs-patreon/Feb 28 08:56
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleFeb 28 23:30
sebsebsebschestowitz: Boycott Twitter !Feb 28 23:30
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schestowitzweird blogMar 01 15:28
schestowitzhttps://travelingtrainer.laubersolutions.com/2019/03/febrrrruary-reading-and-writing.htmlMar 01 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-travelingtrainer.laubersolutions.com | The Traveling Trainer: FeBRRRRuary reading and writingMar 01 15:28
schestowitzI read this, read that...Mar 01 15:28
schestowitzAlmost as bad as Michael Meeks' blogMar 01 15:28
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XRevan86https://coub.com/view/3nn11yhnMar 01 16:03
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MinceRhttps://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02282019.pngMar 01 18:29
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/SBdp2Jj.gifvMar 01 18:35
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XRevan86MinceR: They live?Mar 01 18:43
MinceRlolMar 01 18:43
cubexyzthere's a windows 11?Mar 01 20:08
XRevan86cubexyz: no %)Mar 01 20:08
MinceRnot yetMar 01 20:14
XRevan86First it needs to implement the right to arrest, incarcerate, let alone execute people; or to take away their property.Mar 01 20:15
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MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/tiljns.jpgMar 01 20:34
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082244Mar 01 21:54
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MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/3zhnjn.mp4Mar 01 22:04
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082147Mar 01 22:52
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/18082146Mar 01 23:14
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schestowitzWe're launching #tuxmachines IRC channels shortlyMar 02 14:03
schestowitzif anyone wants to join us there...Mar 02 14:04
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schestowitzMinceR: done, success!Mar 02 14:43
schestowitzso the issue was, I had two users on the channelMar 02 14:43
schestowitzyou can /join #tuxmachines  nowMar 02 14:43
schestowitzrianne might join soon, then I'll announce it in the site etc.Mar 02 14:43
schestowitzMinceR: ah, someone already found itMar 02 14:51
schestowitzbefore it's even announcedMar 02 14:51
MinceR:)Mar 02 14:54
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DaemonFC[m]you can /join #tuxmachines  nowMar 02 17:20
DaemonFC[m]Riot doesn't show it when I search freenode.Mar 02 17:20
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cubexyzare we switching to #tuxmachines or keeping both channels?Mar 02 17:25
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schestowitzcubexyz: not switching but just addingMar 02 17:31
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: does it search freenode now?Mar 02 17:31
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Mar 02 17:32
DaemonFC[m]The bridge makes IRC work just about like any other Matrix roomMar 02 17:33
schestowitzcool. I didn't knowMar 02 17:34
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XRevan86Heh, tried to list rooms with biboumi, Freenode replied "Invalid parameters for /LIST".Mar 02 17:36
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tylerkingkade/grindr-herrick-lawsuit-230-online-stalkingMar 02 20:05
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DaemonFC[m]"“It was like an episode of Black Mirror,” said Matthew Herrick, whose high-profile lawsuit alleges that Grindr looked the other way while his ex-boyfriend tormented him."Mar 02 20:05
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/MkE2Oe8.gifvMar 02 20:33
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XRevan86ST:DS9 has opened my eyes on just how horny the Ferengi are. A faaamily picture?Mar 02 20:49
XRevan86That's uncomfortable to watch.Mar 02 20:50
XRevan86MinceR: Unlike this cat. He's great.Mar 02 20:50
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/DQL7VLf.jpgMar 02 20:53
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/GWJ2Omn.jpgMar 02 21:21
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/tQxl3TM.jpgMar 02 22:02
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MinceR(audio) https://youtu.be/9ao6stS2toUMar 02 23:00
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scientesXRevan86, is meowr.ru your domain?Mar 03 01:23
XRevan86scientes: No, a friend owns it.Mar 03 01:24
XRevan86scientes: Why do you ask?Mar 03 01:25
scientesjust wonderingMar 03 01:25
scientesbut you set your reverse dns to itMar 03 01:26
XRevan86scientes: I have full access to it though (:Mar 03 01:26
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scientesI am in Costa Rica and am travelling with a Russian woman to Panama and then ColumbiaMar 03 01:33
scientesso now I want to learn some RussianMar 03 01:33
XRevan86scientes: Duolingo is an interesting place for that, if you can tolerate their intrusiveness.Mar 03 01:35
scientesI like Duolingo and it is great for Spanish, but I have to get use to the Cyrillic before I can really use DuolingoMar 03 01:36
scientesit really isn't designed for learning new orthographiesMar 03 01:36
scientesand Duolingo also requires the internet to work, which is stupidMar 03 01:37
XRevan86scientes: Um, well, it's just 33 symbols :)Mar 03 01:37
scientesand its also phoneticMar 03 01:37
scientes33x2x2 (cursive and printed)Mar 03 01:37
XRevan86Knowing the Greek alphabet would help a bitMar 03 01:38
scienteslike the М is backwards in Russian cursiveMar 03 01:38
XRevan86It looks like an M there :PMar 03 01:38
scientesactually we write M the way you write....Mar 03 01:38
scientesin cursiveMar 03 01:39
XRevan86scientes: But I doubt knowing cursive is essential for beginners.Mar 03 01:39
XRevan86scientes: T, I knowMar 03 01:39
scientesyeahMar 03 01:39
scientesbut Z (sound) is the sameMar 03 01:39
XRevan86Unicode has ᲅMar 03 01:40
XRevan86scientes: Z?Mar 03 01:41
scienteszMar 03 01:41
XRevan86ЗзMar 03 01:41
scientesyesMar 03 01:41
scientesI don't have the font for ᲅMar 03 01:41
XRevan86The sound is the same, yea. Apart from that it can be palatalised.Mar 03 01:41
scientesand the cursive is the sameMar 03 01:42
scientesinterestingly enoughMar 03 01:42
XRevan86Ah, cursive. I never bothered with the Latin one :)Mar 03 01:42
scientesbut cursive is dead in English---they stopped teaching it (although I was taught it)Mar 03 01:42
XRevan86Cyrillic cursive is very much alive.Mar 03 01:44
scienteswell the current curriculum in the US is idioticMar 03 01:45
MinceRthey taught me to write in cursive, then eventually i stopped because it's both slow and unreadableMar 03 01:46
scientesand curriculum never use to be a national thing either, so it is also a power grabMar 03 01:46
XRevan86scientes: Still, to proceed with any course you only need 33 letters to know.Mar 03 01:48
XRevan86Capital and minor letters are mostly the same – Яя, Цц, Гг, et aliaMar 03 01:48
scientesthe US curriculum will make math education even woorse in the USMar 03 01:49
scientesand it was so bad when I was in school that I didn't even take mathMar 03 01:49
scienteshttps://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/common-core-math-problem.jpgMar 03 01:49
XRevan86Ее, Бб – pretty much the only exceptions in print.Mar 03 01:50
MinceRlol @ picMar 03 01:50
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIWaJ0sy03gMar 03 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-new math by tom lehrer - YouTubeMar 03 01:50
XRevan86Also Лл and Дд can look a bit different, with a triangular shape (like in Greek).Mar 03 01:50
scientesI got Дд downMar 03 01:51
XRevan86> https://thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/common-core-math-problem.jpgMar 03 01:51
XRevan86watMar 03 01:51
scientesyeah math education in the US is fucked up nowMar 03 01:52
scienteslike they teach rounding, and if you don't round but provide an exact answer it is considered wrongMar 03 01:52
XRevan86scientes: I simply don't understand what is the point at allMar 03 01:52
scienteshttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/b1/fa/f6b1faec092c8f82c1c430ff3cc7cf3d.pngMar 03 01:53
XRevan86It's not only that it's biased/illogical, what the heckMar 03 01:53
scientesIn my opinion, I think students stop paying attention because spelling is so hardMar 03 01:53
scientesand then it gets hard to teach them anythingMar 03 01:53
scienteslike I said, when I was in school I didn't even take mathMar 03 01:54
scientesI didn't learn any math from school after 5th gradeMar 03 01:54
scientesand that is only because I had a teacher who was teaching her first class out of college, and took me aside and gave me harder problemsMar 03 01:54
scientesyou try to take math in college and they assume it is remedial math that you are going to takeMar 03 01:55
scientesit is a fucking jokeMar 03 01:55
scienteshttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/b1/fa/f6b1faec092c8f82c1c430ff3cc7cf3d.pngMar 03 01:55
XRevan86scientes: same linkMar 03 01:55
scientesoh okMar 03 01:56
scientesi just searched "common core stupid" on google imagesMar 03 01:56
XRevan86scientes: Anyway, pronunciation should be more challenging in Russian.Mar 03 01:56
scientesyes, new soundsMar 03 01:57
scientesbut it is phoneticMar 03 01:57
MinceRexcept when it isn'tMar 03 01:57
scientesoh RLYMar 03 01:57
MinceRlike when g turns into hMar 03 01:57
MinceRor when e turns into yoMar 03 01:57
XRevan86It's not perfectly phonetic, but compared to English – sure :)Mar 03 01:57
scientesthe yo thing i already noticed, Mar 03 01:57
scientesI was like, why is this character called something differn't?Mar 03 01:57
MinceRor when i turns into e or the other way around, i don't remember clearlyMar 03 01:57
XRevan86"ё" (yo) is considered "academic". I always use it though.Mar 03 01:58
XRevan86One thing that hinders it is that Microsoft placed it on tildaMar 03 01:58
XRevan86> or when i turns into e or the other way around, i don't remember clearlyMar 03 01:59
XRevan86You probably mean ikanyeMar 03 02:00
MinceRi guess soMar 03 02:00
scienteslawl http://media.salon.com/2015/11/ccmath1.jpgMar 03 02:00
MinceRlolMar 03 02:00
XRevan86It's a form of pronunciation (dominant), when most unstressed "ye"'s turn into "i"'sMar 03 02:00
scientesunteaching the communicative propertyMar 03 02:00
XRevan86Unstressed syllables are second class citizens in Russian.Mar 03 02:01
scientessame in EnglishMar 03 02:01
MinceRand teaching a pointless conventionMar 03 02:01
scientes(although I couldn't describe it)Mar 03 02:01
MinceRactually 2 pointless conventionsMar 03 02:01
MinceRdon't you love having to memorize useless data?Mar 03 02:02
XRevan86And because Russian is highly synthetic, unstressed syllables can turn stressed.Mar 03 02:02
XRevan86дельный, дела – diel'nyj, dilaMar 03 02:03
XRevan86* diél'nyj, diláMar 03 02:03
XRevan86> lawl http://media.salon.com/2015/11/ccmath1.jpgMar 03 02:04
XRevan86What class is this?Mar 03 02:04
scientesmathMar 03 02:04
XRevan86No, I mean the levelMar 03 02:04
scientesoh probably like 3rd gradeMar 03 02:04
XRevan86Yes, gradeMar 03 02:05
scientesthe problem is not that they are trying to teach to think about math in differnt way, it is that they are testing people on itMar 03 02:05
scientesand then the teachers have no idea what they are doingMar 03 02:05
scientesthey would be better just teaching the old Victorian way, with laws like the communicative propertyMar 03 02:06
scientesbut there has to be a reason US students are so bad at mathMar 03 02:06
XRevan86scientes: The repeated addition strategyMar 03 02:07
scientesmore like: brute forceMar 03 02:08
XRevan86Implies that multiplication doesn't *always* boil down to thatMar 03 02:08
MinceRwell, it doesn't always boil down to it in this wayMar 03 02:08
scienteswell it doesn't if you are talking about algorithms, but yeah, calling it a "strategy" is confusingMar 03 02:08
MinceRconsider matrix multiplicationMar 03 02:08
scientesMinceR, but that is a entirely differnt operationMar 03 02:09
scientesit just happens to have the same nameMar 03 02:09
XRevan86MinceR: Matrices are different, multiplication there is pretty much by analogy.Mar 03 02:09
MinceRalso, multiplication of real numbersMar 03 02:10
XRevan86By observation, I haven't noticed kids having issues with more conventional methods of teaching math.Mar 03 02:11
scientesthey do in the US, but again, my theory comes is that this is imported from frustration with their inability to spellMar 03 02:12
XRevan86But maybe I'm just used to thinking inside the box for not understanding how to make 10 when adding 8+5.Mar 03 02:13
scientesthat is an especially stupid oneMar 03 02:13
scienteslike this number line stuff I can get, but only for two-digit numbersMar 03 02:14
scientesto get the order of magnitude stuff---but again it should never be requiredMar 03 02:14
scienteswhen i was in elementary school there was no grades, and giving young kids grades is stupidMar 03 02:14
XRevan86Though I guess I would've answered -3Mar 03 02:15
scientescause how can then understand the grades if they can't understand such basic math?????Mar 03 02:15
scientesthat is the arrogance of it---it is assuming that the kids are stupid and can't understand these thingsMar 03 02:16
scienteswhen maybe they just don't care and are uninterestedMar 03 02:16
XRevan86scientes: Kids understand positive reinforcement wellMar 03 02:16
XRevan86Just tell them that "A" is the best and they'll respond to thatMar 03 02:17
scientesIt is also a culture----I have heard people say that school in the US is a day-care, but SOCIETY is a day-careMar 03 02:17
MinceRmaybe it shouldn't beMar 03 02:17
MinceRi'm really sick of the state insisting on being my parentMar 03 02:18
scientesI never like shopping, but now that I am in the Costa Rica I like it, because the stores have personalityMar 03 02:18
MinceR(especially when they're so extremely incompetent and careless at it)Mar 03 02:18
scientesand the owners are actually responsible for running themMar 03 02:18
scientesrather than computer algorithmsMar 03 02:18
XRevan86-3, because the only unknown in the question is adding 8+5 to what, thus understand it as x + (8 + 5) = 10Mar 03 02:18
scientesXRevan86, oh yeah, that makes senseMar 03 02:19
XRevan86scientes: I think, education, especially for younger children, should be encouraging and engaging.Mar 03 02:22
scientesyes I know it was for me until they introduced gradesMar 03 02:22
scientesI still put passion into it after then, but I was (literally) the only oneMar 03 02:23
XRevan86But the stuff you've shown isn't, it's frustrating for unpredictable inconsistency.Mar 03 02:23
scientesmainly because school provided something that was the same every day, predictableMar 03 02:23
scientesbut again, I didn't take math because other students were so far behindMar 03 02:23
scientesanother student taught me calculus because the teacher was incompetentMar 03 02:24
XRevan86scientes: Sounds like that was like a shock, the grades.Mar 03 02:24
scientesand I found a old textbook for trig that was EXCELLENTMar 03 02:24
scientesthe problem with grades is that it distracts from learningMar 03 02:24
scientesalso, if it isn't science of math, the grades are quite arbitraryMar 03 02:24
XRevan86Maybe just throwing A's at everyone would've been better.Mar 03 02:24
scientesit also pits students against each otherMar 03 02:25
XRevan86scientes: Schools want something out of pupils, that's just the enforcement.Mar 03 02:25
scientesbut meh, grades arn't that badMar 03 02:25
scientesjust not for young studentsMar 03 02:25
scientesnot before pubertyMar 03 02:26
scientesyeah puberty was the change, not gradesMar 03 02:26
scientes;)Mar 03 02:26
XRevan86humáns…Mar 03 02:27
XRevan86scientes: When I was pointing out pronunciation, I mostly mean broad/slender consonants.Mar 03 02:28
scientesPutin announced a new program for Russian kids starting in 6th gradeMar 03 02:28
scienteswhere they can choose a trackMar 03 02:28
XRevan86Like saying "priviet" properly.Mar 03 02:29
scientesin English foreign learners are worried about shit/sheet, and bitch/beachMar 03 02:30
XRevan86It has no diphthongs and doesn't rhythm with "vet".Mar 03 02:30
scientesno diphthong because of the distinction between the second and third syllable?Mar 03 02:31
scientesno that is wrong....Mar 03 02:31
XRevan86Just two syllables %)Mar 03 02:31
scientesahhh, yeah Im not sure if I can pass thatMar 03 02:32
scientesahh its the breathMar 03 02:32
XRevan86Breath?Mar 03 02:33
XRevan86//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Ru-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82.ogg audiofileMar 03 02:34
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Ru-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82.oggMar 03 02:34
XRevan86Too fast, probably.Mar 03 02:35
XRevan86scientes: The trick is palatalisation of the "v"Mar 03 02:35
XRevan86scientes: Palatalisation is something that happens to "n" in "piñata" (Spanish pronunciation, in English it additionally gets a "y" sound).Mar 03 02:39
XRevan86"y" helps to get the right sound, hence why it's part of the Latin spelling often like in "Chelyabinsk"Mar 03 02:41
XRevan86(it's actually "Chelabinsk", but with a German, palatalised, "l")Mar 03 02:42
XRevan86L and N I noticed are quite widespread in the world as palatalised consonantsMar 03 02:44
XRevan86But Russian has more :)Mar 03 02:44
XRevan86Ц (ts), Ш (sh), Ж (zh, like in "beige") are the only ones that don't ever get palatalisedMar 03 02:47
XRevan86Ж actually can sometimes, but that's dialectal – whatever.Mar 03 02:48
XRevan86scientes: It's not impossible, I've seen learners who do get it ;)Mar 03 02:51
XRevan86> in English foreign learners are worried about shit/sheet, and bitch/beachMar 03 02:52
scientes<XRevan86> scientes: Palatalisation is something that happens to "n" in "piñata" (Spanish pronunciation, in English it additionally gets a "y" sound).Mar 03 02:52
scientesAHHHHHMar 03 02:52
XRevan86Indeed, and ironically some dialects mess that upMar 03 02:52
scientesyeah, I think I can do that in SpanishMar 03 02:53
scienteslike SueñoMar 03 02:53
XRevan86-нёMar 03 02:53
scientesand enstañarMar 03 02:54
XRevan86энстанярMar 03 02:54
XRevan86Fun fact: piñata in Russian is "пиньята" ("ь" is a slender/palatalising stop), because it's loaned from EnglishMar 03 02:56
scientesyeah but I was around enough Spanish speakers growing up to know the differenceMar 03 02:56
scientesI can also get the rolled r (which in Spanish is rr, as in perro, or dog)Mar 03 02:57
scientesbut the single r in Spanish is difficult for meMar 03 02:57
scientesmore like loaned from English speakers that couldn't speak SpanishMar 03 02:58
scientesor like the way English speakers say "venue"Mar 03 02:59
XRevan86scientes: rolled r sounds like the one in RussianMar 03 02:59
scientescause the English still has the tilde https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi%C3%B1ataMar 03 03:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Piñata - WikipediaMar 03 03:00
XRevan86"venyu"Mar 03 03:01
XRevan86scientes: Well, yeaMar 03 03:01
XRevan86> /pɪnˈjɑːtə/Mar 03 03:01
scientesalso NaïveMar 03 03:01
scienteswhich still has the double-dotMar 03 03:01
XRevan86scientes: "naive" is widespread thoughMar 03 03:02
scientesand bastardization of the pronounciationMar 03 03:02
XRevan86And "pinata" annoys me, because I don't like it when diacritics get lost with no substitutionMar 03 03:03
scientesahh, that is palaterization tooMar 03 03:03
scienteswell, most English computer users have no way to type thatMar 03 03:03
XRevan86scientes: No, it's not palatalisationMar 03 03:03
scientesI am anal about it and will google the word to get the symbolMar 03 03:03
XRevan86scientes: They can type "pinyata"Mar 03 03:03
MinceRi thought the diacritic in naïve was there merely to ensure the 'ai' is not treated as a different soundMar 03 03:04
scientesI tried to set my keyboard to use dead keys, but couldn't figure it outMar 03 03:04
XRevan86That's the best possible approximationMar 03 03:04
scientesMinceR, but that is how people pronounce itMar 03 03:04
scientesahh, its a dipthongMar 03 03:05
XRevan86MinceR: It's a French spellingMar 03 03:05
XRevan86ï is basically ji (yi)Mar 03 03:05
XRevan86Ah, no, the logic's differentMar 03 03:06
scientesenglish has 19 vowelsMar 03 03:06
scientesat least 14Mar 03 03:06
XRevan86I thought it's like the Cyrillic letter of the same shape :)Mar 03 03:06
scientestrying to use latin vowels is stupidMar 03 03:06
XRevan86Though maybe the end result is the same…Mar 03 03:07
MinceRif it was 'naive' in french, the 'ai' would produce a single, different vowelMar 03 03:07
scientesfœtusMar 03 03:08
XRevan86MinceR: Indeed.Mar 03 03:09
XRevan86scientes: So, can you make a palatalised "v" for "привет"? :)Mar 03 03:11
MinceRyou just need to move your lips to your palate? :>Mar 03 03:11
XRevan86MinceR: No, your noseMar 03 03:11
MinceRlolMar 03 03:12
scientesoh shiiMar 03 03:12
scientesthat is what "r" in spanish pero is.....Mar 03 03:12
scientesthat i couldn't getMar 03 03:12
XRevan86scientes: What?Mar 03 03:14
scientesat least the Mexican speaker that was trying to teach meMar 03 03:14
scienteshis tongue went up against his hard paletteMar 03 03:14
XRevan86scientes: //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Alveolar_tap.ogg is that the sound?Mar 03 03:17
scientesyeahMar 03 03:17
XRevan86//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ru-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.oggMar 03 03:18
XRevan86damn itMar 03 03:18
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Ru-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.oggMar 03 03:18
XRevan86Russian palatalised trillMar 03 03:18
scientesahh that one I can hear and try to doMar 03 03:19
scientesand it is the same soundMar 03 03:19
scientesthat is the sound he was trying to make me make, the russian oneMar 03 03:19
scientesin Spanish "pero"Mar 03 03:19
scientesI think it is that if you try to put the eek vowel after it you have to say it that way, maybeMar 03 03:20
scientesahhh, sometimes "three" is pronounced that way, just not in my accentMar 03 03:22
scientesbut I am excited that I can finially hear the differenceMar 03 03:22
XRevan86scientes: I've noticed in the Expanse series that the Martian marine girl has a peculiar accentMar 03 03:23
XRevan86and she pronounces a lot of consonants palatalisedMar 03 03:24
XRevan86No idea where the actress is fromMar 03 03:24
XRevan86> that is the sound he was trying to make me make, the russian oneMar 03 03:24
scientesI hear that Spanish has a wide variety of accentsMar 03 03:25
XRevan86I'm not completely sure, but I think a Russian slender r is also a tapMar 03 03:25
XRevan86But I still heard the example as "ра" and not "ря"Mar 03 03:25
XRevan86I'm a bit confused myself, because I cannot pronounce the trill actually (:Mar 03 03:26
XRevan86I'm картавыйMar 03 03:26
scientesahh pricklyMar 03 03:28
scientesit translated to burry, and I had never heard that world before, because I guess it is british englishMar 03 03:28
scientesand I would never say it cause it could be confused with buryMar 03 03:28
scienteswhich only differs in the vowelMar 03 03:29
XRevan86Картавый just means that my pronunciation of "r" is screwed upMar 03 03:29
XRevan86Not sure if English has a term for that.Mar 03 03:30
scienteshmmmMar 03 03:30
XRevan86After all, the English r approximant I can do just fine :)Mar 03 03:30
scientesyou mean the schwaMar 03 03:30
XRevan86No, the trilling rMar 03 03:30
scientesəMar 03 03:31
scientesbut there is no english trilled rMar 03 03:31
XRevan86scientes: That's the likely cause :)Mar 03 03:31
scientesit is so novel in English, that me and my friend were making fun of it, by saying uno, dos, trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraceMar 03 03:32
XRevan86The most peculiar case of Russian not being phonetic is probably -go at ends of words turning into -voMar 03 03:36
XRevan86ничего, nichego – nichevoMar 03 03:36
MinceRah, yesMar 03 03:37
XRevan86Dialectally it can be a voiced "h", when that's the sound meant by г in the dialect (usually south, like Kubañ)Mar 03 03:39
XRevan86голос, голод, ничего – hálas, hólat, nichehóMar 03 03:39
XRevan86hólas*Mar 03 03:40
XRevan86(but the "main" dialect would have it as gólas, gólat, nichevó)Mar 03 03:41
scientesin spanish the h is often not even pronouncedMar 03 03:41
scienteslike in hotel and holaMar 03 03:42
XRevan86scientes: Reminds of some English dialects, cockney in particularMar 03 03:42
XRevan86Russian has words Отель (Otel'), История (Istorija), but that was just how they were loaned, and it's reflected in spelling.Mar 03 03:43
scientesthats interestingMar 03 03:44
scienteswonder if those came from english through spanishMar 03 03:44
XRevan86Probably from ἱστορία ;)Mar 03 03:45
scientesyeah i just was reading that...Mar 03 03:46
XRevan86And French hôtelMar 03 03:46
scienteshotel is french Mar 03 03:46
scientesi guess it is just as if the person is hissing as they say itMar 03 03:46
XRevan86where the h is dropped phoneticallyMar 03 03:46
scientesso the h just isn't heardMar 03 03:46
scientesi just always has a guess that history was literally "his story"Mar 03 03:47
scientesbut that is obviously wrongMar 03 03:47
scientesπάστα has so many derivitivesMar 03 03:48
scienteswhich even came from παστός, which just means sprinkled with saltMar 03 03:48
scientesinterestingMar 03 03:49
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XRevan86scientes: Wouldn't've guessedMar 03 03:51
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scientesi got more interesting when i ran into spanish words that has the same origin, but totally differn't meaningsMar 03 03:52
XRevan86"false friends"Mar 03 03:52
scienteslike at my hostel the owner put up a sign "Pardon the altercation."Mar 03 03:54
scienteshmm, maybe he actually meant itMar 03 03:55
scientescause it looks like the spanish word means the same thingMar 03 03:55
XRevan86Пароль, parol' – password in RussianMar 03 04:00
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_friendMar 03 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | False friend - WikipediaMar 03 04:02
scientes...or the word sensible, which means reasonable in English, but sensitive in French and Spanish. Mar 03 04:02
scientesI wonder if the word sensible meant that when Jane Austen wrote *Sense and Sensibility*Mar 03 04:02
XRevan86or the word patheticMar 03 04:02
scientesbecause I think she meant sensitivityMar 03 04:02
XRevan86(appealing to emotion)Mar 03 04:03
scientesI asked if you understood Shakespeare, but native English speakers have difficulty with ShakespeareMar 03 04:03
scientesJane Austen's prose is much easier, however the subject matter is more difficult, especially as people don't say what they meanMar 03 04:04
scienteswell the later meaning of pathetic came out of the former https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/patheticMar 03 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dictionary.cambridge.org | PATHETIC | definition in the Cambridge English DictionaryMar 03 04:06
scientesbut now that the pity meaning has gained prominence, I can see what you meanMar 03 04:06
scientescause if something is worthless, it wouldn't be worth arousing any feelings overMar 03 04:07
scientesYou are so pathetic I can't even tell you are trying.Mar 03 04:09
XRevan86scientes: Except that the more original meaning was closer to "passionate" ;)Mar 03 04:10
scientesor the Italian apassianato Mar 03 04:10
scienteswhich is used in musicMar 03 04:10
XRevan86https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82#Ancient_GreekMar 03 04:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wiktionary.org | παθητικός - WiktionaryMar 03 04:11
XRevan86> I asked if you understood Shakespeare, but native English speakers have difficulty with ShakespeareMar 03 04:13
XRevan86scientes: That doesn't surprise me.Mar 03 04:13
XRevan86I suspect that I have slightly *more* difficulty though.Mar 03 04:14
scienteshowever it is the earlier English stuff that can be read in its originalMar 03 04:17
scientesUtopia before it was written in LatinMar 03 04:18
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-18Mar 03 18:06
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-22Mar 03 18:30
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MinceRhttps://dilbert.com/strip/2018-10-30Mar 03 20:34
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MinceRhttps://hugelol.com/lol/581090Mar 03 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | In honor of black history month, our favorite African AmericanMar 03 20:57
XRevan86MinceR: I get it, but why "black history" then?Mar 03 20:57
MinceRthat's not the pointMar 03 20:58
MinceRthe point is the inaccuracy of the term "african-american"Mar 03 20:59
XRevan86But in making the point they made an inaccuracy of their own.Mar 03 20:59
MinceRwhat inaccuracy?Mar 03 20:59
XRevan86MinceR: "Black history" hasn't much to do with himMar 03 21:00
MinceRit has something to do with "african-american"s thoughMar 03 21:02
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DaemonFC[m]the point is the inaccuracy of the term "african-american"Mar 03 21:10
DaemonFC[m]I just say "black people" if the clarification is necessary.Mar 03 21:10
DaemonFC[m]"Black" isn't a bad word.Mar 03 21:11
DaemonFC[m]Like, if there's a reason to narrow it down. "The black guy over there wearing the red t-shirt.".Mar 03 21:11
DaemonFC[m]African American is not only incorrect, as-in, doesn't apply to black people except outside of the United States, or perhaps broadly, North or South American continents.Mar 03 21:12
DaemonFC[m]But it has, itself, been turned into a racist euphemism.Mar 03 21:12
DaemonFC[m]People write "African American" in quotes or say it in a sneering tone of voice, to imply that they're being racist while using the term.Mar 03 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Negro is questionable. It's correct to say that, if you're a Spanish speaker.Mar 03 21:13
DaemonFC[m]But in English, it became a racist term.Mar 03 21:13
DaemonFC[m]And the "N-word" is never acceptable, if you're white, although some of them call each other that. Mar 03 21:14
MinceRdouble standardMar 03 21:14
DaemonFC[m]Or a contraction of it.Mar 03 21:14
DaemonFC[m]"Hey nigga, what's up!?"Mar 03 21:14
DaemonFC[m]And the older black people HATE that, most of them do.Mar 03 21:15
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: It's not really a contraction if one's using a non-rhotic accent.Mar 03 21:15
DaemonFC[m]They roll their eyes or are visually upset. Mar 03 21:15
DaemonFC[m]This has been used to comedic effect.Mar 03 21:16
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: What I find kind of peculiar is that when I was younger, a lot of kids on the block used to say "nigga" all the timeMar 03 21:16
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgjwjaBJ5DoMar 03 21:16
XRevan86influenced by rap or GTA:SAMar 03 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tokyo Breakfast - YouTubeMar 03 21:16
DaemonFC[m]The movie Rush Hour, where Jackie Chan walks into a bar with a bunch of black people and says, in a thick Chinese accent, "What's up my nigger?".Mar 03 21:16
DaemonFC[m]And starts a bar fight.Mar 03 21:16
MinceRdamn, that's the version with the damaged audioMar 03 21:17
XRevan86And I wonder, is that bad, that they thought it's rad and cool?Mar 03 21:17
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zxeJX-7tygMar 03 21:17
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DaemonFC[m]DaemonFC: What I find kind of peculiar is that when I was younger, a lot of kids on the block used to say "nigga" all the timeMar 03 21:17
DaemonFC[m]In Russia?Mar 03 21:17
XRevan86related themselvesMar 03 21:17
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: yesMar 03 21:17
DaemonFC[m]Hmmm, our bad habits do find their way everywhere.Mar 03 21:18
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: My observation is that kids love rapMar 03 21:18
DaemonFC[m]Why can't anyone model their behavior on something good that happens here?Mar 03 21:18
DaemonFC[m]DaemonFC: My observation is that kids love rapMar 03 21:19
DaemonFC[m]Probably, in context, a way of rebelling against the adults, authority, etc. They appropriated rap music to drive the adults crazy.Mar 03 21:19
MinceRbecause most humans are evilMar 03 21:19
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Are you implying that the US ebonics is a bad influence? %)Mar 03 21:19
DaemonFC[m]Cultures change, but teenagers are like that almost everywhere.Mar 03 21:19
DaemonFC[m]There's no particular reason to respect most of what's going on in the US or Russian federal governments, especially right nowMar 03 21:20
DaemonFC[m]So, they're right. Let's hope they don't grow out of their disgust with the system.Mar 03 21:20
DaemonFC[m]Most citizens don't want foreign incursions, lots of nuclear weapons, dictators and would-be ones. Mar 03 21:21
DaemonFC[m]Either they won't change it or they eventually find that their apathy has enabled politicians to change the system so they can't change it even if they wake up.Mar 03 21:21
XRevan86Mother Anarchy, Father a Port Wine Glass :)Mar 03 21:21
XRevan86MinceR: Satire of American influence in Japan?Mar 03 21:27
MinceRcould beMar 03 21:28
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Some want a stronk leaderMar 03 21:35
XRevan86who will jail all the bad guysMar 03 21:36
XRevan86Systemic issues aren't as easy to grasp as "bad guys – bad"Mar 03 21:37
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/580988.pngMar 03 21:43
XRevan86MinceR: A smartassMar 03 21:46
MinceRmore like a trollMar 03 21:47
XRevan86not contradictoryMar 03 21:48
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/SZ2P1Gd.gifvMar 03 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 03 22:29
DaemonFC[m]who will jail all the bad guysMar 03 22:51
DaemonFC[m]Gay people.Mar 03 22:51
DaemonFC[m]With our gay propaganda.Mar 03 22:51
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/580910.jpgMar 03 22:52
DaemonFC[m]It's very fabulous propaganda.Mar 03 22:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Does Hungaristan put gay people in prison yet?Mar 03 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Or have you evolved and sent them to the gas chambers?Mar 03 22:52
MinceRi haven't heard of it happening yetMar 03 22:52
MinceRbut i'm sure they intend to get therMar 03 22:52
MinceReMar 03 22:52
MinceRwith the guidance of their comrade putinMar 03 22:52
DaemonFC[m]This is an example of the US sending the wrong signaling to the world. How we treat refugees and asylum seekers.Mar 03 22:54
DaemonFC[m]Instead of letting them form a line and fill out paperwork and maybe get temporary status while things move, we just fire rubber bullets and tear gas at them now.Mar 03 22:54
DaemonFC[m]And I don't want to guess how long those bullets will be bean bag and rubber.Mar 03 22:54
XRevan86MinceR: https://youtu.be/wc8SgrZmMm0Mar 03 22:56
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/IIOwR8Jepb4?t=50Mar 03 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Рамзан Кадыров олимпийским судьям: Не дай Аллах, если вы обидите наших спортсменов - YouTubeMar 03 22:58
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