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scientesMinceR, how many hours a day do you spend watching these videos?Jun 09 00:47
scientesdon't you have to work?Jun 09 00:47
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MinceRi'm on holidayJun 09 01:37
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XFaCEschestowitz: MinceR peter bright was arrestedJun 09 02:06
scientesWhat political reason did they have?Jun 09 02:07
XFaCEHe was allegedly soliciting minorsJun 09 02:09
XFaCEhttps://boingboing.net/2019/06/07/ars-technica-writer-peter-brig.htmlJun 09 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Ars Technica writer Peter Bright aka @DrPizza arrested for 'enticement of a minor to engage in illegal sexual activity' / Boing BoingJun 09 02:10
scientesI guess it could just be the catch-all, which is that the US is a pyramid scheme, and the prison business is very lucrativeJun 09 02:10
scientesbut they also might have other reasonsJun 09 02:10
scienteslike the GULAGs actually made a profitJun 09 02:10
scientesUS prisons operate at a MASSIVE lossJun 09 02:11
MinceR":>Jun 09 02:14
MinceRs/"//Jun 09 02:14
MinceRi thought m$ was on the side of the powers that beJun 09 02:14
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jun 09 02:14
scientesI donJun 09 02:24
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schestowitzXFaCE: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15138486Jun 09 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoftPeter is a criminal https://boingboing.net/2019/06/07/ars-technica-writer-peter-brig.html he also acts as a #microsoft PR conduit for at least 9 years.Jun 09 09:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15138494Jun 09 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #arstechnica could spare itself the nightmare association with #pedophelia if it fired the pedophile ages ago for complete and utter journalistic misconduct with #microsoft Lack of ethics 'travels' #condenastJun 09 09:10
schestowitz"Jun 09 09:10
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - about a minute ago Jun 09 09:10
schestowitz#arstechnica could spare itself the nightmare association with #pedophelia if it fired the pedophile ages ago for complete and utter journalistic misconduct with #microsoftJun 09 09:10
schestowitzLack of ethics ‘travels’Jun 09 09:10
schestowitz#condenastJun 09 09:10
schestowitz"Jun 09 09:10
schestowitzTechrigths cover it 1.5 days ago BTWJun 09 09:10
schestowitzWe got a tipoff from someone about thisJun 09 09:10
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/06/07/microsoft-peter-is-a-pedophile/Jun 09 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter is a Pedophile, Arrested Without Bail | TechrightsJun 09 09:10
schestowitz"How many people actually understand #microsoft  bugdoors?  The bugs are probably not intentionally added, they are incompetent enough to have truckloads by accident.  However, they appear to be left intentionally for extended periods often after notifying agencies of the bug.  "EternalBlue" was one famous, recent example. Jun 09 09:16
schestowitzAre you referring to Jack Hamby, former MSFT employee in Twitter, questioning me about it this morning, joined by another Microsoft apologist who later spammed me in Direct Messages? He used to troll our IRC channels.Jun 09 09:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/b_cavello/status/1137645775461076993Jun 09 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@b_cavello: @schestowitz I recommend sharing this with content warnings where possible because it could be real rough for folks… https://t.co/CmqMMLBRgPJun 09 10:01
schestowitz"I recommend sharing this with content warnings where possible because it could be real rough for folks who’ve survived childhood sexual abuse"Jun 09 10:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: any back door you want plausible deniability.   Adding interentional flaws makes tha really hard they don't look natural.   Now delaying repairing naturally happening bugs does make sense. Jun 09 11:50
oiaohmOf course get caught too many times and plausible deniability over the flaws will start getting questioned.Jun 09 11:50
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schestowitzoiaohm: hence the name bugdoorJun 09 11:55
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052654Jun 09 13:13
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/09/65de58ad0409af7f.jpgJun 09 18:56
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052513Jun 09 19:53
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MinceR(audio:important) https://imgur.com/gallery/Q6RG9Gn   ( https://i.imgur.com/Vpu14nJ.mp4 )Jun 09 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Don't know what they're talking about, but it seems pretty deep.. - Album on ImgurJun 09 21:48
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052443Jun 09 22:49
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/20/d3be9ffc80b35782.mp4Jun 09 22:56
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/20/d56dd4f00e7f24f3.jpgJun 09 23:25
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/20/d7aab6544e665d72.jpgJun 10 01:14
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cubexyzTV has really deteoriated Jun 10 05:05
cubexyzit was never great, but now it's just awfulJun 10 05:05
cubexyzdeterioratedJun 10 05:13
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schestowitzcubexyz: yeah, just talked about this days ago with a friend from IrelandJun 10 07:28
schestowitzfor ratings here they now have TV shows with naked peopleJun 10 07:28
schestowitzbarenaked, dating showsJun 10 07:28
schestowitzthat's how bad things before... to attract viewersJun 10 07:29
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oiaohmschestowitz: really Australia had number 96.Jun 10 09:15
oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_96_(TV_series)  1976 prime time tv with full nudity at times.Jun 10 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Number 96 (TV series) - WikipediaJun 10 09:16
oiaohmOpps 1972Jun 10 09:16
oiaohmcubexyz: I am not exacty sure how far Tv has deteoriated it seams to go in cycles.Jun 10 09:17
oiaohmJust like fasion.Jun 10 09:17
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/16/3fb0bfe35ad8231a.mp4Jun 10 14:30
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cubexyzwas kalzium in KDE 3.5.10? can't remember nowJun 10 15:24
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/19/ba0f168820f3335c.mp4Jun 10 15:24
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cubexyzpart of kdeedu I think it wasJun 10 15:35
cubexyzkudos to the vector linux people for keeping the KDE 3.5.10 stuff onlineJun 10 15:39
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DaemonFC[m]Firefox lost so much money from their slide into irrrelevance that they're going open core.Jun 10 17:59
DaemonFC[m]There will be a "premium  version" that you can subscribe to if you want later this year.Jun 10 17:59
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MinceRoohJun 10 20:20
MinceRhow enticing, i can buy a browser that's so shitty i wouldn't want to use it gratis!Jun 10 20:21
XRevan86Is this about Firefox having premium services like VPN?Jun 10 20:22
XRevan86 / proxyJun 10 20:22
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MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Jun 10 20:31
MinceRmaybe they'll make you pay to get pocketJun 10 20:31
MinceRor to not get pocket!Jun 10 20:31
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MinceRor they'll have paid support for ALSAJun 10 20:32
MinceRor they'll have a subscription for running failfox without cancerdJun 10 20:32
oiaohmTo be correct if you ever looked at the ALSA code in firefox you would be thankful to see it gone.Jun 10 20:36
oiaohmIt was 8 times the code base of apulse and did less.Jun 10 20:40
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oiaohmXRevan86: https://protonvpn.com/blog/mozilla-partnership/   we know what vpn.Jun 10 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We're partnering with Mozilla to bring online privacy to more people - ProtonVPN BlogJun 10 20:47
oiaohmhttps://neflabs.com/blog/swiss-nsa-march/  Not that it going to be a safe harbour from monitoring for that much longer.Jun 10 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neflabs.com | Switzerland's "NSA" Comes Online In Two WeeksJun 10 20:50
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MinceRi'd be more thankful to see the poetteringaudio code gone insteadJun 10 21:29
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/19/85d54f3497d33e02.mp4Jun 10 21:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Yomi No Kuni, Steam Marines 2, Griftlands, Humble and Abstract Initiativ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124736 [https://pleroma.site/objects/621392a5-1164-44f0-9e9a-8143a67efc1c]Jun 10 23:24
oiaohmMinceR: Firefox alsa sound mixing code made poetterings worse pulseaudio/systemd code look good.   It has everything memory leaks, imporper error handling, depending on segfault traps.....Jun 10 23:28
oiaohmMinceR: basically Firefox alsa code need to go and  before it could come back a complete rewrite from scratch.Jun 10 23:29
oiaohmMinceR: I left out multi function spaghetti code for so call performance reasons so on different compliers it does not built at all.Jun 10 23:30
oiaohmMinceR: poettering never made multi function speghetti code its a level of insanity that is almost 100 percent unique to alsa core developers and guys who wrote firefox alsa audio.Jun 10 23:31
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MinceRoiaohm: at least i can restart failfox with less pain than restarting cancerd would entailJun 10 23:50
oiaohmMinceR: code quality using pulseaudio instead of firefox built in alsa was in fact a improvement.   Scary enough the resource cost of running pulseaudio server was less than running the firefox own alsa code.Jun 11 00:07
oiaohmPotterings code may not be the best.   But he is not the worst open source developer writing code that you can find.   Firefox/mozilla had found worse for their alsa code.Jun 11 00:08
MinceRat least mozilla's shit was easy enough to replaceJun 11 00:11
oiaohmAnd there was a replacement option in pulseaudioJun 11 00:12
oiaohmand apulseJun 11 00:12
oiaohmRestarting systemd is in fact quite straight forwards.   Having dbus restart that is not in fact part systemd is where the hell starts.   http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/Jun 11 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | dbusJun 11 00:14
MinceRas long as it cooperatesJun 11 00:20
MinceRalso, didn't they build dbugs into it lately?Jun 11 00:20
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oiaohmMinceR: dbugs/dbus is still not built into systemd.   Its systemd developers who started kdbus and dbus-broker.     dbus-broker is not mainline systemd .   https://dvdhrm.github.io/rethinking-the-dbus-message-bus/  Yes dbus-brokers goal is to get rid of the worst issues of dbus.Jun 11 03:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dvdhrm.github.io | Rethinking the D-Bus Message BusJun 11 03:41
oiaohmMinceR: the deeper you dig systemd was not the best but the lower level defects the developers around it have triggered to get fixed will be long term worth it.  Ie cgroupv2, pid fd that coming.  Work to make a dbus that in fact works.   In fact one of the reasons why systemd pid1 is overload is lack of a dependable method to pass messages between processes.Jun 11 03:44
oiaohmSo those wanting to make a new init system after the work to fix up systemd foundations will have good solid foundations to work from.Jun 11 03:45
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schestowitzkaniini: I suppose you are aware of the latest LF twistJun 11 10:53
schestowitzWe also have a 70-page series about the tactics of WSL and AzureJun 11 10:53
zoobabhiJun 11 10:58
zoobabIBM push for swpats this eveJun 11 10:58
zoobabin the staged Senate hearing on Alice and 101Jun 11 10:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Current Radeon RX Vega 64 / Radeon VII Linux OpenCL Performance Against NVIDIA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124745 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7607949d-4fa0-45ac-88f0-e43753a8e2bd]Jun 11 12:06
oiaohmzoobab: That is kind of expected.   IBM has RCU patents and other things they like to enforce.Jun 11 12:12
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zoobaband so many other onesJun 11 12:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: First Arch Linux ISO Snapshot Powered by Linux Kernel 5.1 Is Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124753 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6cc3c2fd-01b1-4337-8d10-5b6d07cd4ebd]Jun 11 13:26
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MinceRoiaohm: no, IPC does not belong in the init systemJun 11 13:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: WHAT THE GOLF?, UnderMine, Starmancer, Ribbiting Saga, SkateBIRD, Stoneshard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124755 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d7f4cc0-b6e0-4004-a795-b634224992cd]Jun 11 13:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Securing the Kernel Stack http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124756 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c9498858-8b3f-47f3-a772-b3107322016e]Jun 11 13:50
schestowitzzoobab: get quotesJun 11 13:52
schestowitzmaybe do rebuttalsJun 11 13:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming/Development: Outreachy, Python, AWS and AWK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124758 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c87fa3cb-699f-4b98-8cf1-6870da22a314]Jun 11 14:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DragonFlyBSD Now Defaulting To HAMMER2 File-System and Playing Bluetooth Audio with OpenBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124759 [https://pleroma.site/objects/04f76258-0566-41b6-9a9d-b1908185515d]Jun 11 14:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox Desktop Telemetry, NN at the Federal Communications Commission and These Weeks in Firefox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124760 [https://pleroma.site/objects/20b3fa32-d559-4bb0-b73e-95600a40ffe7]Jun 11 14:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu: Design, GNOME, 'Fridge' and Zorin OS 15 Installation Guide with Screenshots http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124761 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d61c516-890d-4ce0-b4a3-39665e017327]Jun 11 14:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE and GNOME: Nextcloud Login Plugin for PlaMo, KDE GSoC Projects, Kate & C++ Developer Survey and Sumaid Syed's GSoC Work on GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124762 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d31fb800-7182-466f-95a9-5dbc3660bd19]Jun 11 14:34
zoobabEPO is censoring 7 submissions to the EPO2023Jun 11 14:41
zoobabstay tunedJun 11 14:41
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oiaohmMinceR:  really the fact the Linux kernel did not have trustworthy signalling or messaging .   Dbus was the closest thing at the time they could find and it was not that great.Jun 11 14:50
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oiaohmMinceR: There are a lot of features you should have expected from a kernel that just were not there at the start of systemd and had basically been missing from the start of Linux.Jun 11 14:51
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schestowitzMinceR: "City Councilman in #Bainbridge #Washington proposes "I Didn't Reproduce Day," a holiday to celebrate people who don't have kids." https://www.pottsmerc.com/news/national/wa-city-council-proposes-childless-couple-holiday/video_e52b21e8-08ef-51d9-b88e-e92fba7296fb.htmlJun 11 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WA: CITY COUNCIL PROPOSES CHILDLESS COUPLE HOLIDAY | National and World | pottsmerc.comJun 11 15:09
schestowitzzoobab: interestingJun 11 15:09
schestowitzyou mean they refuse to put these online?Jun 11 15:09
schestowitzzoobab: Jun 11 15:29
schestowitz"On appeal, the Federal Circuit agreed with the USPTO that Greenstein’s claims are directed to ineligible subject matter."Jun 11 15:29
schestowitz#swpats dying like flies in the US, #cafc in this case (high court) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2019/06/ineligibility-decisions-court.htmlJun 11 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Easy Ineligibility Decisions for the Court | Patently-OJun 11 15:29
schestowitzjust asked valinux founder about Zemlin PACJun 11 15:43
schestowitz"Jun 11 15:43
schestowitzDear Larry, Jun 11 15:43
schestowitzDo you have any comment on the @linuxfoundation  effectively shutting down linux.com and not saying a word about it?  Were's sufficient reassurances made?Jun 11 15:43
schestowitz"Jun 11 15:43
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XRevan86> #mariadb is no longer #freesw but more like #opencore (free bait) "MariaDB ES will be GPL, said Johnson, “It’s the community version that gets GA’d with additional QA and additional plugins. The result of that is Enterprise Server.”"Jun 11 17:21
XRevan86The next quote: “Where the difference lies is we will be only distributing it to customers,” he continued. “They will also be able to request the source code as well, being GPL.”Jun 11 17:21
schestowitzyes, but stillJun 11 17:57
schestowitzvery nginx-likeJun 11 17:58
XRevan86I suppose.Jun 11 18:02
XRevan86After all, the free licence is probably because MariaDB doesn't have all the rights to the code.Jun 11 18:02
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052438Jun 11 21:17
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XRevan86MinceR: If only she knew how to write…Jun 11 21:20
MinceR:)Jun 11 21:42
MinceRnot really the point thoughJun 11 21:42
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052322Jun 11 21:45
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MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/14/993d6fe2f0621461.mp4Jun 11 22:50
XRevan86schestowitz: But technically "is no longer Free Software" is not factually true at all.Jun 11 22:58
XRevan86schestowitz: It's more… RHEL-like.Jun 11 23:00
XRevan86In that respect that one has to buy the thing to get the source code officially from them.Jun 11 23:00
scientesand the RHEL model is quite respectableJun 11 23:01
scientesits just a way of being very clear that you don't get supportJun 11 23:01
XRevan86* pre-CentOS RHELJun 11 23:01
scienteswell RedHat/IBM now owns CentOSJun 11 23:01
XRevan86Now that CentOS is official, things are a bit different.Jun 11 23:01
scienteswhich is kinda weirdJun 11 23:01
XRevan86scientes: I wonder if they're in perfect synch now.Jun 11 23:02
scientesthey don't even say "Prominent North American Linux Vendor" anymoreJun 11 23:03
XRevan86I heard that CentOS had a natural delay in releases compared to RHEL.Jun 11 23:03
XRevan86But now that CentOS and RHEL are one, they can be in perfect synch.Jun 11 23:03
scientesits doesn't really matterJun 11 23:03
scientes(to me)Jun 11 23:03
XRevan86scientes: I don't use CentOS, RHEL or even Fedora, so it doesn't really matter to me either :0Jun 11 23:04
XRevan86:)Jun 11 23:04
XRevan86(and also why I don't know these things)Jun 11 23:04
MinceRi don't find the "we have to redistribute our kernel patches but merge them into a mess just out of spite" model to be respectable at allJun 11 23:04
MinceRnor the "we just did a hostile takeover of most former GNU/Linux distributions" model :>Jun 11 23:05
scientesits more that Oracle was poaching their customersJun 11 23:05
MinceRirrelevantJun 11 23:05
XRevan86scientes: "ends don't justify the means"Jun 11 23:05
scientesand yes they did a hostile takeoverJun 11 23:05
MinceRthey have an ethical responsibility as long as they're profiting off LinuxJun 11 23:05
MinceRof course they don't know what "ethics" are in raleighJun 11 23:06
MinceRjust like their idols in redmondJun 11 23:06
XRevan86This phrase oddly is little known on the Internet.Jun 11 23:06
XRevan86or respectedJun 11 23:06
scientesheheheJun 11 23:06
MinceRwell, that's because only humans use the InternetJun 11 23:06
scientesthe amount of hate I hear against Lennary PoetteringJun 11 23:06
MinceR...is not enough?Jun 11 23:06
zoobabRHEL images cannot be rebuiltJun 11 23:09
scientesI don't want to wondering in the dark ages trying to support BSDJun 11 23:09
XRevan86zoobab: … with the same trademark, you mean?Jun 11 23:09
zoobabplus RHEL repos are proprietary, cannot be mirrored publiclyJun 11 23:09
XRevan86zoobab: That's exactly what I was referring to when referencing the RHEL model in respect to MariaDBJun 11 23:10
XRevan86although now "cannot", but "will not"Jun 11 23:10
zoobabit creates some kind of proprietary repo Jun 11 23:10
XRevan86zoobab: One can legally mirror it, strip all the trademark stuff and publicise it.Jun 11 23:10
XRevan86that's what CentOS has been doing until it was acquiredJun 11 23:11
scientesfunny that they sold...Jun 11 23:11
MinceRi hate proprietary repos with a passion ever since i had to use valgrind on sles/sledJun 11 23:11
MinceReven if you do have a licence for the distro, it's still a total pain in the ass to useJun 11 23:12
MinceR(it being a total piece of shit of a distro aside)Jun 11 23:12
scientesI tried to use a Red Hat 8 systemJun 11 23:13
scientesnot RHEL, Red HatJun 11 23:13
zoobab"One can legally mirror it AND strip all the trademark stuff" -> that's not mirroringJun 11 23:33
XRevan86zoobab: Yea, fair enough.Jun 11 23:34
oiaohmzoobab: you still have the maintaince problem.Jun 12 02:17
oiaohmXRevan86: most of the Redhat distributions forks that are not under redhat control have basically died out.Jun 12 02:19
oiaohmMaintenance is a serous pain.Jun 12 02:19
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schestowitzXRevan86: RHEL is not freeswJun 12 03:59
schestowitzFedora or CentOS areJun 12 03:59
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schestowitzkaniini: viera offliningJun 12 04:51
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cubexyzfedora used to be goodJun 12 05:40
cubexyzI'm still patching fc1Jun 12 05:40
cubexyzit's working better than everJun 12 05:40
cubexyzonce I killed rhn-applet-gui memory use was significantly decreasedJun 12 05:43
cubexyznow the big cpu user is irssiJun 12 05:45
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kaniinischestowitz: sorry i was asleepJun 12 13:55
zoobab:win 4Jun 12 14:24
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052254Jun 12 16:29
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schestowitzkaniini: cheers mate!!Jun 12 16:39
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MinceRhttps://p1.picsto.re/D2NqZ.jpgJun 12 17:29
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052147Jun 12 17:54
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/19/a671061d2d1c30d6.jpgJun 12 18:27
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/18/8dbbbd1acb4cf692.jpgJun 12 18:47
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MinceR(audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/14/9f974e01a75bc748.mp4Jun 12 20:47
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schestowitz[18:47] <MinceR> https://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/18/8dbbbd1acb4cf692.jpgJun 12 21:40
schestowitzWeird art, MinceRJun 12 21:40
schestowitzbut not made for aesthetics, I geddditJun 12 21:40
schestowitz[18:27] <MinceR> https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/19/a671061d2d1c30d6.jpgJun 12 21:41
schestowitzI don't get the pop culture references thereJun 12 21:41
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/18/e3dbce1a28c42d91.pngJun 12 21:42
MinceRstar wars prequel trilogy vs pokemonJun 12 21:42
MinceR(pokemon anime)Jun 12 21:42
schestowitzdoesn't helpJun 12 21:42
schestowitzBut I get it, some people are good at coming up with fictional scary thingsJun 12 21:43
schestowitzlike the Alien and Predator artistsJun 12 21:43
schestowitzand it makes good story plotsJun 12 21:43
schestowitz(or nightmares)Jun 12 21:43
schestowitzlots of clever thing about this oneJun 12 21:44
schestowitzthe tail the tentacles, the motion and pose of the pawsJun 12 21:45
schestowitzEven that cocky smileJun 12 21:45
schestowitzbut tbh I don't enjoy those arts, they put me down. I prefer animal stuff (not those videos of them getting eaten by snakes) :-((Jun 12 21:46
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/18/1e1d15942617bf44.jpgJun 12 21:52
MinceRsnakes are animals tooJun 12 21:53
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/17/c15ba9eab22ad88d.pngJun 12 22:12
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schestowitzthis one is less scaryJun 12 22:34
schestowitzand looks like a different fictional creatureJun 12 22:34
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MinceR(audio:important) https://imgur.com/gallery/6M1Mfeu   ( https://i.imgur.com/8TMuo8b.mp4 )Jun 12 23:00
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/13/ad1fb90a3cac518f.jpgJun 12 23:23
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/Y6fDxfvJun 12 23:44
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schestowitzoiaohm: ah https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1106040-microsoft-begins-rolling-out-windows-subsystem-for-linux-2#post1106040Jun 13 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Begins Rolling Out Windows Subsystem For Linux 2 - Phoronix ForumsJun 13 06:01
schestowitzI didn't know you comment in these forumsJun 13 06:01
schestowitzphoronix again. With MS ads. We need to counter the EEE, not help it, I'm afraid...Jun 13 06:01
oiaohmschestowitz: Not like I see any of the adveristement with the filters I run.Jun 13 06:04
oiaohmIt with me doing support with wine project over time I have end up being there dealing with problems so developers don't have to.Jun 13 06:04
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schestowitz_loghttps://twitter.com/FOSSForce/status/1138184812089532416https://twitter.com/alcipone/status/1138411159374180353Gov. Jay Inslee Slams DNC for Refusing to Hold Climate DebateJun 13 12:00
schestowitz_loghttps://twitter.com/SDGMasterglass/status/1138677382007664640Jun 13 12:00
schestowitz_logDone :-)Jun 13 12:00
schestowitz_loghttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChangesJun 13 12:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maradydd: @zoobab @schestowitz @fsf @glynmoody @webmink Yup, I'm around. Holler if I can be helpful.Jun 13 12:00
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/17/f58f0ca728167936.jpgJun 13 20:29
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MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/27/c44cc7db1f10270b.mp4Jun 13 22:48
oiaohmhttps://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/huawei-developing-android-alternative-called-oak-os-arkos-google-trump/story/354774.html   Android fork confirmed.Jun 13 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesstoday.in | Huawei developing its own Android alternative called Oak OSJun 13 23:51
MinceRas expectedJun 13 23:54
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052111Jun 14 01:11
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052019Jun 14 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJun 14 01:19
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Initial Benchmarks Of Microsoft's WSL2 - Windows Subsystem For Linux 2 On Windows 10 Is A Mixed Bag http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124881 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2d68947e-c148-4bd4-ab34-5d218ce785e8]Jun 14 17:29
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MinceRhttps://github.com/reyk/systemd-openbsdJun 14 18:44
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schestowitzsystemd, github, microsoftJun 14 18:51
schestowitzall our favourite thingsJun 14 18:51
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/13/1b3c9bfd3b8036b7.jpgJun 14 20:03
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052850Jun 14 20:09
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/viIDGSV.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/viIDGSV )Jun 14 20:48
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MinceR(audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/27/d7f951734e174901.mp4Jun 14 21:14
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/27/ecb8ab6c520fb38b.jpgJun 14 21:55
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/13/7e7952c0ebd4502c.mp4Jun 14 22:17
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/vp23eIg.gifvJun 14 22:22
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/27/afda5d39747249e0.jpgJun 14 22:46
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/27/f90107c074807286.mp4Jun 14 23:53
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/n0a3nco.jpgJun 15 00:06
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/13/112871e46549743c.jpgJun 15 01:33
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19052726Jun 15 01:49
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1402267Jun 15 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJun 15 02:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Q4OS 3.7 Centaurus, testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124888 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4a0baff-b2e9-4caf-a1d3-c18ca0691635]Jun 15 02:50
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An Overview to deepin 15.10 GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124890 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8e3cb5c-bee9-4ef7-8484-c564d7076d4e]Jun 15 02:59
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1402264Jun 15 14:19
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1402254Jun 15 14:40
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/12/351fe12f2369f339.jpgJun 15 15:00
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schestowitzkaniini: ty!Jun 15 15:04
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schestowitzJun 15 15:10
schestowitzHow To Test Drive 200+ Linux Distributions Without Ever Downloading Or Installing ThemJun 15 15:10
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124903Jun 15 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Test Drive 200+ Linux Distributions Without Ever Downloading Or Installing Them | Tux MachinesJun 15 15:10
schestowitzJun 15 15:10
schestowitzSecurity Leftovers: Patches, FUD, and Management Engine 12 (Intel Back Door)Jun 15 15:10
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124902Jun 15 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers: Patches, FUD, and Management Engine 12 (Intel Back Door) | Tux MachinesJun 15 15:10
schestowitzJun 15 15:10
schestowitzProgramming: Rust, Python, sphinxcontrib-spelling and MoreJun 15 15:10
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124901Jun 15 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming: Rust, Python, sphinxcontrib-spelling and More | Tux MachinesJun 15 15:10
schestowitzJun 15 15:10
schestowitzScreencasts: Manjaro, Enso OS, Endless OS, Dead Cells on UbuntuJun 15 15:10
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124900Jun 15 15:10
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schestowitzBest lightweight Linux distro of 2019Jun 15 15:10
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schestowitz#Regolith Linux is the i3 Ubuntu Spin Youâve Been Waiting ForJun 15 15:10
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oiaohmschestowitz: just saw the one over the coc.   https://www.safework.nsw.gov.au/resource-library/violence-workplace-guide  there are a lot of places where what is covered by the CoC is in fact part of the countries employee safety laws.Jun 15 17:43
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schestowitzoiaohm: so why no coc until now?Jun 15 17:44
schestowitzare those laws new?Jun 15 17:44
oiaohmIts been enforcement issue.    Those laws are quite old.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinstein_effect  most of the enforcement starts with this.Jun 15 17:46
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oiaohmBut there was a issue with some pictures used in LCA Australia event before CoC in the Linux kernel that did cause some major hell as well.Jun 15 17:48
oiaohmThis also started lots asking about CoC or equal.Jun 15 17:48
oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct  first time it was really formally written that a company should have a CoC was 2007.Jun 15 17:52
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oiaohmThe reality the Linux project with a company behind it really got a long way without one thinking how long they should have had one.Jun 15 17:53
oiaohmschestowitz: to be correct the Linux kernel was not absolutely without one completely.   It had the old code of conflit but this was a really badly done code of conduct that did not cover half the stuff it should have as a global entity. Jun 15 17:57
oiaohmschestowitz: heck the code of conflit barely covered 10 percent of what it should have.Jun 15 17:58
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MinceRyeah, the code of conflict didn't give crybullies a tool for banning kernel developers from the project, so it had to goJun 15 18:12
MinceRbut finally they've managed to prioritize identity politics to writing usable codeJun 15 18:12
MinceRmaybe the only way to write useful code is in anonymityJun 15 18:15
schestowitzsome do just thatJun 15 18:20
schestowitzlike figosdevJun 15 18:20
schestowitzwho writes some pieces for usJun 15 18:20
schestowitzbecause his politic sJun 15 18:20
schestowitzbecause his politics aren't popular with someJun 15 18:20
oiaohmMinceR: code of conflict had been used a few times.Jun 15 18:50
oiaohmMinceR: biggest example was Con KolivasJun 15 18:51
oiaohmWith copyright requirements writing code anonymously is not an option either.Jun 15 18:52
schestowitzso they harrrass devs over "tweets" they postJun 15 19:01
schestowitzjust like an employerJun 15 19:02
schestowitzbut in the FOSS 'communityJun 15 19:02
schestowitzso Linux/LF is just a company Jun 15 19:02
MinceRwell yeah, one would have to ignore copyright thenJun 15 19:04
MinceRand lose the protections of copyleftJun 15 19:05
MinceRif developing useful software is outlawed, only outlaws will develop useful softwareJun 15 19:06
schestowitzwhat was the original statement to what effect?Jun 15 19:07
MinceRnot sureJun 15 19:08
MinceRlooks like the original might have been "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"Jun 15 19:09
MinceRhttps://english.stackexchange.com/questions/12770/if-gets-outlawed-only-outlaws-willJun 15 19:09
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schestowitzlet me tryJun 15 19:13
schestowitzif lawyers were outlawed, only criminals would become lawyers :-)Jun 15 19:13
schestowitz>>> One more to go with that NHS bloodbank failure link.Jun 15 19:17
schestowitz>>>Jun 15 19:17
schestowitz>>> https://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.nhsbt.nhs.ukJun 15 19:17
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schestowitz>> NHS is by far our biggest funding source. We move them toJun 15 19:17
schestowitz>> gnu+linux+python+psqlJun 15 19:17
schestowitz>>Jun 15 19:17
schestowitz> That's a relief.  When there are blood shortages, people die.  M$ isJun 15 19:17
schestowitz> causing a blood shortage ...Jun 15 19:17
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/SjcAYLs.jpgJun 15 21:15
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/26/237541799be5714b.jpgJun 15 21:27
XRevan86Some kind of "energy" drink?Jun 15 21:44
MinceRyeahJun 15 21:44
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/26/d26ba87223f6f248.mp4Jun 15 21:48
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/26/361bc860d0047147.jpgJun 15 22:27
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/12/cf6db2649757f12f.jpgJun 15 23:14

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