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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free OS to power computers in schools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123817 MILLIONS more #gnu #linux PCs in #india [https://pleroma.site/objects/458b4cbd-4e4b-4180-b88b-40c3b8ddd56b] | May 13 00:47 | |
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| schestowitz | = | May 13 05:21 |
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| schestowitz | "companies are acting as governments but do not have | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | the legitimacy of governments" | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmQj787Jcc&t=50m46s | May 13 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Platform Challenge: Balancing Safety, Privacy and Freedom — Alex Stamos (DataEDGE 2019) - YouTube | May 13 05:21 | |
| schestowitz | # stamos bloviating on official government talking points; | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | # take away is that M$ has severely infiltrated most other companies | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | # serious M$ revisionism / apologism throughout; | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | # first question is about JA and WL; | May 13 05:21 |
| schestowitz | (friend a friend) | May 13 05:21 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: Fedora 30 Workstation and Fedora 30 Silverblue http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123830 [https://pleroma.site/objects/97e6f8c7-c243-4bf8-be05-22412041091f] | May 13 07:49 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts: Linux Action News, Open Source Security Podcast, Python Show and GNU World Order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123831 [https://pleroma.site/objects/06513253-c042-426e-b48b-d2cac69b7520] | May 13 07:54 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://xkcd.com/2149 | May 13 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Alternate Histories | May 13 16:46 | |
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| r_schestowitz | One more: | May 13 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/05/13/inenglish/1557735550_398996.html | May 13 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elpais.com | Julian Assange: Ecuador will give Julian Assange’s embassy computers and files to the US | In English | EL PAÍS | May 13 18:10 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I encountered a laptop with enforced Secure Boot IRL some time ago. | May 13 18:56 |
| XRevan86 | They Live | May 13 18:57 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google and Collabora Add Major Change to Linux Kernel 5.1 for Chrome OS Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123847 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89196d2f-c533-498e-b3ab-08d484e68589] | May 14 01:30 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Applications 19.04 Open-Source Software Suite Gets Its First Point Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123849 [https://pleroma.site/objects/08c4403d-0f54-4fbd-a837-8a00073c7d11] | May 14 01:34 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/wsl-2-post-build-faq/ Here you are WSL 2 is coming to Windows Home. | May 14 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devblogs.microsoft.com | WSL 2 Post BUILD FAQ | Windows Command Line Tools For Developers | May 14 01:36 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: so my question where the long term of this goes is still well and truly open. | May 14 01:41 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu: ZFS, Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and Lubuntu 19.04 Overview http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/10c8c8ca-cc6c-4a81-97e6-42549557c811] | May 14 05:54 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19012840 | May 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 14 07:52 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to kotten | May 14 07:52 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: How to read those so that they make sense? | May 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | May 14 07:55 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599482.png | May 14 07:55 |
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| amarsh04 | post 5.1.0 kernels are having trouble with filesystem corruption that is occuring below the filesystem layer - until the source can be isolated, machines running the 5.1.0+ will at some stage need their writeable filesystems repaired | May 14 15:50 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, I read about that, amarsh04 | May 14 15:55 |
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| r_schestowitz | amarsh04: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BCache-Corruption-Linux-5 | May 14 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Out For BCache Corruption Issues On Linux 5.0 & GCC 9 - Phoronix | May 14 17:06 | |
| amarsh04 | I'm still using gcc 8.3.0 r_schestowitz | May 14 17:12 |
| amarsh04 | thanks for the URL | May 14 17:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't see most government as legitimate. | May 14 17:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They always get themselves so far removed from the voters and then dumb people down and encourage the dumbest people to vote. | May 14 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So government often does make everything so much worse. | May 14 17:15 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: Mandatory voting Australia does not stop the people standing from being not what the public wants. | May 14 18:34 |
| oiaohm | Some ways I wonder how a inverted voting system would go. As in the party who gets the least votes wins. | May 14 18:36 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19012631 | May 14 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 14 18:53 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/SJCGwDy.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/byxBSpy ) | May 14 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Little snuggles - Album on Imgur | May 14 18:54 | |
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| cubexyz | still trying to learn more about dcop | May 14 19:16 |
| cubexyz | still learning more about old bioses... it never ends | May 14 19:17 |
| cubexyz | KDE 3.5.10 didn't really do a great job documenting dcop | May 14 19:18 |
| cubexyz | mwm didn't really deal with "always on top" | May 14 19:20 |
| cubexyz | ICCCM doesn't specify a protocol for it | May 14 19:21 |
| MinceR | maybe there are motif hints for it | May 14 19:22 |
| cubexyz | nah, there's no way to do it | May 14 19:29 |
| cubexyz | if I was sticking with KDE 3.5.10 type programs, then yes | May 14 19:29 |
| cubexyz | intermixing KDE with motif program... then probably not | May 14 19:29 |
| cubexyz | mwm doesn't have "always on top" only restore, maximize and minimize | May 14 19:30 |
| MinceR | ic | May 14 19:33 |
| MinceR | no layers either? | May 14 19:33 |
| cubexyz | there's shuffle up and shuffle down but I'm not really sure what that does | May 14 19:36 |
| MinceR | :) | May 14 19:37 |
| MinceR | it probably doesn't support EWMH either :> | May 14 19:38 |
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| cubexyz | also dcop doesn't really know about non-KDE programs | May 14 19:39 |
| cubexyz | "if windows and/or icons are stacked on your display, shuffle up moves the bottom window or icon in the stack to the top" | May 14 19:41 |
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| cubexyz | one could use dcop to do some automated web browsing with... as long as you used konqueror | May 14 19:47 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599531.jpg | May 14 19:50 |
| cubexyz | there's bits and pieces of dcop notes all over the place, but no exhaustive reference | May 14 19:53 |
| cubexyz | and of course, all that is obsolete... with dcop being obsolete level 1 and mwm being obsolete level 10 | May 14 19:54 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599524.jpg | May 14 19:57 |
| cubexyz | also.. fixing bugs in old games... another quixotic quest of mine | May 14 19:57 |
| cubexyz | MinceR, haha | May 14 19:58 |
| cubexyz | is that japanese or chinese? | May 14 19:58 |
| MinceR | japanese | May 14 19:59 |
| cubexyz | dcop amarok player 'nowPlaying()' | May 14 20:25 |
| cubexyz | there's some progress | May 14 20:26 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, any recollection on how to get dcop to set an application to "always on top"? | May 14 20:29 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: No luck in that department. Been too long. | May 14 20:44 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599503.jpg | May 14 21:01 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599501.jpg | May 14 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not sure if real at this point | May 14 22:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 14 22:26 |
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| MinceR | https://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-cpus-impacted-by-new-zombieload-side-channel-attack/ | May 14 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel CPUs impacted by new Zombieload side-channel attack | ZDNet | May 14 23:17 | |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, figured out something just now... kdebindings was missing | May 15 02:24 |
| cubexyz | the main howto for dcop seems to be gone | May 15 02:25 |
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| amarsh04 | still getting corruption below the filesystem layer on 5.1.0+ kernels here, reported it to LKML again | May 15 04:16 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Speculative execution rabbit hole | May 15 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Even after all these security bugs we cannot be sure we are at the bottom of it yet. | May 15 05:06 |
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| MinceR | indeed | May 15 06:22 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ABjL3r6.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/IgaX8CR ) | May 15 07:35 |
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| r_schestowitz | MinceR: intel | May 15 07:39 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: its not just intel finding different speculative exeuction bugs. Intel is getting the most news. | May 15 08:02 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19012628 | May 15 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 15 08:15 | |
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| amarsh04 | Theodore T'so sent me a patch which fixed things with ext4 under 5.1.0+ kernels | May 15 13:15 |
| amarsh04 | around 96 hours from first report to final fix | May 15 13:23 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: being first on new kernels normally comes with ouch or two. | May 15 13:24 |
| amarsh04 | yes, filesystem issues can have a bit more ouch | May 15 13:24 |
| amarsh04 | and if there are filesystem issues mixed in with everything else, testing slows down | May 15 13:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | amarsh04: sent you personally? | May 15 15:20 |
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| XRevan86 | Has meduza.io/en written about park → cathedral protests in Yekaterinburg? | May 15 16:33 |
| schestowitz | plenty | May 15 16:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe 6 article | May 15 16:49 |
| schestowitz | articles (so far) | May 15 16:49 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I also mentioned it a lot | May 15 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, I didn't notice then | May 15 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | It's getting increasingly more interesting as the situation escalates. | May 15 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | https://icosahedron.website/@oreolek/102100893572606753 they actually do | May 15 17:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-icosahedron.website | Oreolek 👾: "RKN wants to make the official state registry of …" - Icosahedron | May 15 17:02 | |
| XRevan86 | Considering their definition of "fake news", this should be fun. | May 15 17:04 |
| schestowitz | someone told me hallmark of "cloud revolution" | May 15 17:08 |
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| XRevan86 | "cloud revolution"? | May 15 17:42 |
| XRevan86 | Sounds like https://vice.com/en_us/article/a3xk3p/photozhop :) | May 15 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adobe Tells Users They Can Get Sued for Using Old Versions of Photoshop - VICE | May 15 17:42 | |
| schestowitz | oops | May 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | I mean colour, XRevan86 | May 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | reference to Bolsheviks, I assume | May 15 17:43 |
| schestowitz | I guess I see the word "cloud" too much and type it without thinking | May 15 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, not to them | May 15 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution | May 15 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Colour revolution - Wikipedia | May 15 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | Adobe just kindly reminds people to install GIMP | May 15 17:44 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: ah, ok | May 15 17:44 |
| schestowitz | so I confused to two | May 15 17:45 |
| schestowitz | the word "cloud" was a Freudian slip though | May 15 17:45 |
| schestowitz | not sure why the protest is a big deal | May 15 17:45 |
| schestowitz | meduzla write like 3 articles about it yesterday alone | May 15 17:45 |
| schestowitz | like nothing more important than a protest happens in the biggest country | May 15 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Powers that be test some new tactics there | May 15 17:45 |
| schestowitz | they the fences in the water iirc | May 15 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | like sending sportsmen there to beat the protesters up | May 15 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | and painting it like this is the other side of the population, that also defends their point of view | May 15 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | The second time someone from administration of a city/oblast' stated that protest actions hurt the city reputation, thus they must stop. | May 15 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | Think of the City! | May 15 17:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess on a grand scheme of things this isn't so big. | May 15 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I see it differntly | May 15 17:51 |
| schestowitz | I respect the city more | May 15 17:51 |
| schestowitz | But I am not Russian | May 15 17:51 |
| schestowitz | it shows critical thinking and standing up to power | May 15 17:51 |
| schestowitz | I think I hashtagged them like 5 times this week, never heard of them before that | May 15 17:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I also think that way | May 15 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But they want to paint it that way | May 15 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | hoping it'll work on someone | May 15 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | "oh no, civilised people will think poorly of us, as if we're unpeaceful barbarians" or something like that | May 15 17:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Russians care, because it's down to earth, we're kind of used to negative news by now, local injustices, but here negative impacts to a lot of people are pretty obvious | May 15 17:55 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if Russians get my "fuckwitputin" reference | May 15 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I mean, is it well known what the man got fined for? | May 15 17:56 |
| XRevan86 | Anyone can understand what's at stake from a single sentence and can get easily emotionally involved. | May 15 17:56 |
| schestowitz | my goal is to make it ok to criticise ("insult") politicians | May 15 17:56 |
| schestowitz | I cannot imagine what it would be like if I could not "insult" British public figures | May 15 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "Fantastical Putin" got to be somewhat of a meme | May 15 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | or "Biblical" | May 15 17:57 |
| schestowitz | with photo? | May 15 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: That's a way to insult without insulting, so that everyone understands what is referenced. | May 15 17:58 |
| XRevan86 | also, from a film Down House (2001): https://youtu.be/NqDs91lezis | May 15 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Сказочный долбоёб. Зачем его только из больницы выпустили!? - YouTube | May 15 18:01 | |
| XRevan86 | "A fantastical/biblical fsckwit, why did they even release him from the hospital/institute?" | May 15 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | Probably what made the phrase popular. | May 15 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe "epic" | May 15 18:07 |
| XRevan86 | someone of fairy tail proportions | May 15 18:08 |
| XRevan86 | > wonder if Russians get my "fuckwitputin" reference | May 15 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But the word fsckwit is rather uncommon and rarely linked to the original swear word, so it may seem random | May 15 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | > I mean, is it well known what the man got fined for? | May 15 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | to this, yes | May 15 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | > I cannot imagine what it would be like if I could not "insult" British public figures | May 15 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's like in that anecdote: I also can "insult" British public figures %). | May 15 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What amuses me is that when the law was being proposed, everyone assured that it'll be most civil | May 15 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: As if they're oblivious to how police and prosecution work in Russia *at all* | May 15 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | If law can be easily abused, it absolutely will be. | May 15 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | because there's such a thing as case solving quotas | May 15 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | sometimes (a lot of times) they invent cases just to get their salaries | May 15 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | and because of corruption no one will care anyway | May 15 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | and juries are in it too, so we get articles as this: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsru.com%2Frussia%2F15may2019%2Fless_free.html | May 15 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | May 15 18:16 | |
| XRevan86 | > the share of acquittals in Russia reached a historic minimum | May 15 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | 0.235% | May 15 18:18 |
| ---MinceR gives voice to mmu_man libertybox scientes amarsh04 | May 15 18:19 | |
| ---MinceR gives voice to acer-box vallor | May 15 18:19 | |
| XRevan86 | And one'd think that Cardassian courts are absurd | May 15 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | (a Star Trek reference) | May 15 18:19 |
| MinceR | russia is Keeping Up With The Cardassians | May 15 18:20 |
| superkuh | There are... 4 ... LIGHTS. | May 15 18:20 |
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| XRevan86 | I wonder if it counts as an insult to GIMP a spoon onto the Putin's head… | May 15 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | what if it's a nice-looking spoon? | May 15 18:24 |
| superkuh | There is no spoon. | May 15 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: whoa… | May 15 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | I once posted that "gay Putin" image | May 15 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Where he's fabulous? | May 15 18:31 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: you should make sure it can't be traced back to you | May 15 18:31 |
| MinceR | at least until you leave mordor forever | May 15 18:31 |
| schestowitz | in soviet russia it's spalled murder | May 15 18:31 |
| schestowitz | spelled even | May 15 18:32 |
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| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6de7qWXsAIRCro.jpg | May 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | meduza spoke of two mysterious deaths of putin critics this month | May 15 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Let's just say, it's plausable, which already says something. | May 15 18:53 |
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| XRevan86 | Of course! | May 15 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | fabulous! | May 15 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | that's the perfect translation | May 15 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | "fabulous dipshit" | May 15 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | https://reddit.com/r/europe/comments/bgs6fc/0/elnfmvm heh | May 15 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Russian court fines Internet user hundreds of dollars for calling Vladimir Putin an ‘unbelievable fuckwit’ : europe | May 15 19:05 | |
| XRevan86 | another good one: mythical | May 15 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: site downtime? | May 15 19:40 |
| schestowitz | (pleroma.site) | May 15 19:40 |
| kaniini | running a postgres migration | May 15 19:40 |
| schestowitz | aha | May 15 19:40 |
| schestowitz | makes sense | May 15 19:40 |
| kaniini | should be back soon | May 15 19:42 |
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| schestowitz | kaniini: it's back. I see viera picks up some posts but not all after it came back, maybe indicative or something? | May 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | *of something | May 15 19:55 |
| kaniini | some posts may not have federated | May 15 19:55 |
| schestowitz | aha | May 15 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | https://pleroma.site/notice/9iqFmnfWpmml611kLg after "That's human rights expressions, too" I knew I'm for some juicy hypocrisy | May 15 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 15 20:11 | |
| XRevan86 | * I'm in for | May 15 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I've just opened the profile of this chap and the description got me puzzled. | May 15 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | Though, maybe they only tolerate dark skin and transgenders in animated pornography… | May 15 20:19 |
| scientes | how do i get a cut when i save companies a bunch of money by optimizing things? | May 15 20:26 |
| scientes | you can't get numbers from these people so that you can know how much money you saved them | May 15 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Do you have a contract that states you get a cut? | May 15 20:28 |
| scientes | no | May 15 20:28 |
| scientes | Like you write it, but don't release it, and then charge the biggest winner to release it? | May 15 20:29 |
| scientes | the problem is that without internal statistic you can't even calculate the amount | May 15 20:29 |
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| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fria.ru%2F20190515%2F1553518231.html | May 15 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | > Vladimir Solovyev about a "curse" of Yekaterinburg and the "heirs of demons" | May 15 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | May 15 21:13 | |
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| XRevan86 | Vladimir Solovyev is a promiment figure on Russian television and has absolutely no shame as a policy. | May 15 21:15 |
| MinceR | it seems shame has gone out of fashion :( | May 15 21:21 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: He's one of those who speak THE TRUTH | May 15 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | because he doesn't shy away from anything, his statements are especially colourful | May 15 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | like saying that a rally about Dmitry Medvedev claimed to be as corrupt as they get was attended by "the usual 2 percents of shit" and "children of corrupt officials" | May 15 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | sauce: https://youtu.be/Gby9eQDpjlc | May 15 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-СОЛОВЬЁВ: "На протесты НАВАЛЬНОГО вышло 2 процента ДЕРЬМА" - YouTube | May 15 21:29 | |
| MinceR | :) | May 15 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | he has *absolutely* no shame | May 15 21:35 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov_(journalist)#Politics Wikipedia also mentioned that | May 15 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vladimir Solovyov (journalist) - Wikipedia | May 15 21:36 | |
| XRevan86 | > Solovyov continued to use harsh judgments and remarks against some of his audience and opposition-minded Russian journalists. | May 15 21:36 |
| XRevan86 | That's… one way to put it. | May 15 21:36 |
| kaniini | XRevan86: smugloli is a fucking shithole of an instance honestly | May 15 22:10 |
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| scientes | )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))<-- lisp | May 15 23:18 |
| scientes | i can't even tell where the return is from the function | May 15 23:19 |
| scientes | i can see the arguments... | May 15 23:19 |
| scientes | oh i see | May 15 23:19 |
| scientes | confusing | May 15 23:19 |
| MinceR | return equivalents are rarely used, the value returned is the value of the form in the tail position | May 15 23:21 |
| scientes | I want to make $600 https://github.com/McCLIM/McCLIM/issues/585 | May 15 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[$600] streams: make SEOS access thread-safe · Issue #585 · McCLIM/McCLIM · GitHub | May 15 23:21 | |
| scientes | It would be easy if it was in C | May 15 23:21 |
| scientes | MinceR, yeah i got that | May 15 23:22 |
| scientes | thankfully gedit can highlight matching () | May 15 23:22 |
| scientes | so symbols can basically do anything? | May 15 23:24 |
| scientes | there is no typing? | May 15 23:24 |
| MinceR | not sure | May 15 23:24 |
| MinceR | i think they tend to be like python by default | May 15 23:25 |
| MinceR | i.e. values have types, variables don't | May 15 23:25 |
| MinceR | (certainly the case for hy :> ) | May 15 23:25 |
| scientes | like i've got this word "frame" and i have no idea how to find the definition | May 15 23:25 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: So you need a frame of reference? | May 15 23:27 |
| scientes | haha | May 15 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | good quality humour (: | May 15 23:27 |
| scientes | XRevan86, how is your english so good, when I assume you haven't been to a native-english speaking country | May 15 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: It certainly looks the part. | May 15 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I actually have been years ago. But I can't tell by posts I've written in, say, 2012 | May 15 23:29 |
| scientes | I want to come to Russia, but it isn't as easy for US nationals | May 15 23:29 |
| scientes | My woman-friend flew back today | May 15 23:30 |
| scientes | she's probably in Moscow by now | May 15 23:30 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Basically, my first exposure to English was from native speakers. That gave me the basics and probably shaped the way I perceive the language. | May 15 23:30 |
| scientes | Maybe I can study at university | May 15 23:30 |
| scientes | but english-language is 3X the cost at moscow U | May 15 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: As someone who knows Russian universities intimately, I can tell that you don't want to go there. | May 15 23:31 |
| scientes | I met some people from there at a conference @Google | May 15 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe Moscow's are better though | May 15 23:32 |
| scientes | they were talking about meta-lib-m, but from what i've heard the code was all wrong | May 15 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | but I'm doubtful that by much | May 15 23:32 |
| scientes | I doubt that greatly | May 15 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | > but english-language is 3X the cost at moscow U | May 15 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | Hm? | May 15 23:33 |
| scientes | or just I'm doubtful | May 15 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | Taking English costs three times as much at some Moscow university? | May 15 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | than where? which university? | May 15 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | or do you mean that it costs three times as much for English speakers than for the natives? | May 15 23:34 |
| scientes | the program costs 3x, and there is no funding available | May 15 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Regardless, bad idea :) | May 15 23:35 |
| scientes | foreigners pay the same sticker price, but their eligibility for scholarships is less | May 15 23:35 |
| scientes | the other way is to get a job that pays 1Mil roubles | May 15 23:35 |
| scientes | but of course i have to experience it | May 15 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "scholarships" – You mean, budget education? | May 15 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not aware of actual scholarship programmes here in Russia. | May 15 23:36 |
| scientes | well it is free for many | May 15 23:37 |
| scientes | but yeah, she was actually suprised by pretty basic stuff at the library in Bogota | May 15 23:37 |
| scientes | cause they didn't have that stuff in Abakan U | May 15 23:37 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Indeed. But at the same time I don't think the state will be willing to give a budget place to a non-citizen… | May 15 23:37 |
| scientes | but its like $2k/y | May 15 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | > Abakan | May 15 23:38 |
| scientes | in russian | May 15 23:38 |
| scientes | what about it? | May 15 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: If it's not Moscow or St. Petersburg then even my estimates that Russian education is a shitshow are generous. | May 15 23:38 |
| scientes | yeah you are probably right | May 15 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | Though I've heard that there's an okay university in Vladimir. But that's actually close to Moscow %). | May 15 23:39 |
| scientes | yeah i don't think i can wrap my head around this lisp | May 15 23:44 |
| scientes | and I thought c++ was pretty funky | May 15 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: c++ is hacky, not funky %) | May 15 23:45 |
| scientes | I still love C | May 15 23:45 |
| scientes | XRevan86, c++ also has quite a few warts, like operator precendence doesn't work with operator overloading | May 15 23:46 |
| scientes | what was another weird one i ran into... | May 15 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't? Sheesh… | May 15 23:47 |
| scientes | at least it doesn't work the same | May 15 23:47 |
| scientes | maybe it was overloaded, but its quite weird when programming LLVM | May 15 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Anyway, if you want to find a saner place to be than the US, Russia should be somewhere at the bottom of the list. | May 15 23:48 |
| scientes | what lanuage do you program? | May 15 23:49 |
| scientes | yeah I'm looking at SA | May 15 23:49 |
| scientes | people are very nice here | May 15 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Most code I probably wrote in C (: | May 15 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: South Africa? | May 15 23:50 |
| scientes | South America | May 15 23:50 |
| scientes | haha, South Africa is nasty | May 15 23:50 |
| scientes | I've met white people from there trying to get out | May 15 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: If you're to consider Eastern Europe more, then maybe Czechia or Bulgaria | May 15 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | or maybe Latvia | May 15 23:51 |
| scientes | I also want somewhere with poorer people | May 15 23:52 |
| scientes | so I think South America is good | May 15 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Ukraine then | May 15 23:52 |
| scientes | Its not that I am against wealth, but the US is just sick | May 15 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Vibrant politics, working their way up, but still poor. | May 15 23:52 |
| XRevan86 | poorer than Russians | May 15 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | or Belarus, if you're into senile autocrats | May 15 23:53 |
| scientes | I know a BUlgarian | May 15 23:54 |
| scientes | and I met a man from Romania recently | May 15 23:54 |
| scientes | here in Peru | May 15 23:54 |
| scientes | that lives through the 90s | May 15 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | but that place is even less safe if you want to politics | May 15 23:54 |
| scientes | I havn't made it that far south, but I have my hopes up about Argentina | May 15 23:54 |
| scientes | the US isn't a bad place, but the people.....they could use some improving | May 15 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: My understanding of Romania is sketchy at best. | May 15 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, Chernogoria is a nice place | May 15 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | or, pardon my French, Montenegro | May 15 23:55 |
| scientes | I am struggling with the Spanish | May 15 23:55 |
| scientes | but I might just be able to do this digital nomal thing | May 15 23:56 |
| scientes | *nomad | May 15 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | > but the people.....they could use some improving | May 15 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | USonian internal hate is all over the Internet. | May 15 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | so yea, we can see that %) | May 15 23:59 |
| scientes | I've been away from it long enough now...I forget about it | May 16 00:00 |
| scientes | and I re-gain my sanity | May 16 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | - You're the worst! People like you destroyed our country! | May 16 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | - NO U | May 16 00:00 |
| scientes | fucking niggers! I'm an African American. | May 16 00:02 |
| *XRevan86 rubs his head. | May 16 00:02 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Hm? | May 16 00:02 |
| scientes | Colbert made good humor of that: "I can't see race." | May 16 00:02 |
| scientes | its the lack of identity of all peoples in the US | May 16 00:02 |
| scientes | we have a thing for identifying as irish or whatever other place, that was 100+ years in the past | May 16 00:02 |
| scientes | The blacks in the US have never been to Africa. | May 16 00:03 |
| scientes | same with all the other identities | May 16 00:03 |
| scientes | and the country doesn't even have a name | May 16 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That's segregation I guess, it's in the minds too. | May 16 00:03 |
| scientes | as Mexico and Brazil are also United States in America | May 16 00:03 |
| scientes | yes, the other places never managed to prohibit marriage between groups | May 16 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Goodness… | May 16 00:05 |
| scientes | XRevan86, yes? | May 16 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: gracious | May 16 00:05 |
| scientes | cause instead of being human you get this explicit rejection of that segregation in the US, and that too is stupid, because the fundamental assumtion is that "minorities" *are* inferior | May 16 00:06 |
| scientes | my friend brought it up---the US has this culture of "mental illness" where everyone is identified by their problems, rather than their strengths | May 16 00:07 |
| *XRevan86 thinks that a good permanent way to solve the US has to fix the voting system first. | May 16 00:08 | |
| scientes | thats what was happening in the 1920s | May 16 00:08 |
| scientes | about 1890-1930, and FDR came along to prevent communist revolution | May 16 00:09 |
| *XRevan86 is tired of seeing strawmen like "I didn't vote for this ass, it must be you!" | May 16 00:09 | |
| scientes | People from Europe often have that same weakness of mind | May 16 00:09 |
| scientes | I had someone from the UK here talk like that | May 16 00:10 |
| scientes | blaming me for Trump....but I managed to get him to concede that the problems in UK politics are very similar | May 16 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | Even to me it's obvious that the UK is the most Usonian-like country of Western Europe. | May 16 00:10 |
| scientes | and he did, and then he said "everything goes to the right..." which just is making an excuse for himself to not be concerned | May 16 00:10 |
| scientes | its all about "WE must do something" | May 16 00:11 |
| scientes | XRevan86, for a long time too, thinking of Thatcher/Reagan | May 16 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Sounds reasonable in this framing, but I get what you mean. | May 16 00:12 |
| scientes | you can't divide a person into right and left | May 16 00:12 |
| scientes | How are you going to rearrange the desk chair on the Titanic? | May 16 00:13 |
| scientes | *deck chairs | May 16 00:13 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know how deck chairs were arranged on the Titanic in the first place. | May 16 00:13 | |
| scientes | thats how people already feel about politics in the US | May 16 00:14 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I'm confused. | May 16 00:14 |
| scientes | there is alot of money spent keeping it this stupid | May 16 00:14 |
| scientes | XRevan86, no one knows how the deck chair were arranged because it doesn't matter, just like US elections | May 16 00:15 |
| scientes | what matters is that the boat is taking on water | May 16 00:15 |
| scientes | http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2019/04/is-uss-ship-of-fools-taking-on-water.html | May 16 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: Is the USS Ship of Fools Taking on Water? | May 16 00:15 | |
| scientes | look at the corporate debt | May 16 00:15 |
| scientes | student debt is similar | May 16 00:15 |
| *XRevan86 also thinks that the system can't be fixed through legitimate means. | May 16 00:15 | |
| XRevan86 | which is pretty depressing | May 16 00:16 |
| scientes | it can only be fixed through collapse | May 16 00:16 |
| scientes | legitimate means will be counter-productive | May 16 00:16 |
| scientes | and just make the landing harder | May 16 00:16 |
| scientes | just like perestroika | May 16 00:16 |
| scientes | look at the bail-out of the automotive sector in the US | May 16 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Perestroika could've worked, it just needed a genius at the wheel. | May 16 00:17 |
| scientes | that was quite a while ago now | May 16 00:17 |
| scientes | XRevan86, democracy is really bad in a collapse | May 16 00:17 |
| scientes | and when you have all those people in denial, anyone that tells the truth quicky gets disappeared | May 16 00:17 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Instead of a genius (or a Gorbachev) at the wheel you get corrupt senators who are interested in the status-quo | May 16 00:18 |
| scientes | It took a while before someone like Putin could be a little more honest | May 16 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But maybe a democracy would've worked, the US isn't exactly that. | May 16 00:18 |
| scientes | that's why i've liked him for so long | May 16 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Putin is Trump-honest. | May 16 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | it's a very special kind of honesty | May 16 00:18 |
| scientes | But what i'm talking about is the reality | May 16 00:19 |
| scientes | like the energy secretary that Obama nominated | May 16 00:19 |
| scientes | got witch-chased out | May 16 00:19 |
| scientes | his ideas were unrealistic, but even he couldn't be tolerated | May 16 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Denial is a good word to describe what I see. | May 16 00:19 |
| scientes | It's the strongest part of the whole thing | May 16 00:20 |
| scientes | as Dmitry Orlov said almost 2 decades ago now, comparing the US to the USSR: Delusions of grandeur prevent honest discussion of problems. | May 16 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | it's psychologically easier to go on a witch-hunt instead of accepting certain doom | May 16 00:20 |
| scientes | like Trump, or the Russians, or Bit-Coin | May 16 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | but of course treating symptoms won't even prolong said doom | May 16 00:20 |
| scientes | yes, the cancer has to be cut through collapse | May 16 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | * postpone | May 16 00:21 |
| scientes | its hard to accept, but collapse is the best course of action | May 16 00:21 |
| scientes | as only after collapse can things get better | May 16 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Let's just hope it's a soft collapse. | May 16 00:21 |
| scientes | it won't be, sadly | May 16 00:21 |
| scientes | not like the USSR collapse | May 16 00:21 |
| scientes | https://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-was-better-prepared-collapse-us/ | May 16 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resilience.org | Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US - Resilience | May 16 00:22 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: If the USSR collapse you find to be peachy then I don't want to know what you have in mind for the US | May 16 00:22 |
| scientes | The US loves get-rich schemes, and "self-help", its a cancer since the 80s or so | May 16 00:22 |
| scientes | XRevan86, well that is Dmitry Orlov's premise, that launched his blogging career, I personally don't know much about it | May 16 00:23 |
| scientes | but I think he makes some good points | May 16 00:23 |
| scientes | like Russians knew how to grow their own food | May 16 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I guess with Russia itself the worst part is not the collapse but the administration that conducted it. | May 16 00:23 |
| scientes | If I talk about growing food in the US people think I'm crazy | May 16 00:23 |
| scientes | or if I eat plants from the side of the road | May 16 00:23 |
| scientes | I don't have that problem here----in South America I am constantly relieved simply by how sane everyone is | May 16 00:24 |
| scientes | XRevan86, exactly, how bad it was before collapse made the actually collapse much more tolerable | May 16 00:24 |
| scientes | while the US is actually quite "effective", and all that functionality will disappear, and people will wait for help that will never come. | May 16 00:25 |
| scientes | It is hard to put into words how much happier I am to not be in the US | May 16 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | The ironic part is that Russia today is a lot like the most vile aspects of the USSR administation. | May 16 00:26 |
| scientes | or rather, sane | May 16 00:26 |
| scientes | but its the social systems | May 16 00:26 |
| MinceR | i don't see anything ironic about it | May 16 00:26 |
| scientes | like the transportation system in South America is so functional | May 16 00:26 |
| MinceR | totalitarian dictatorships are all alike, despite their claims to the contrary | May 16 00:26 |
| scientes | its not "private", because everyone pays the same price | May 16 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's ironic, because those are elements that everyone wanted to get rid of | May 16 00:27 |
| scientes | its a decentralized social system. | May 16 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It's more subtle than that | May 16 00:27 |
| MinceR | the people in power never cared about what those people wanted to get rid of | May 16 00:27 |
| MinceR | or about those people in the first place | May 16 00:27 |
| scientes | the other day the bus had to hit the brakes because the bus driver in front was pissed, and in a turf battle, and came out and tried to assult our bus driver. | May 16 00:27 |
| scientes | I am relieved because this was an argument that actually made sense | May 16 00:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Russia wasn't a totalitarian dictatorship in the 90s or even early 2000s | May 16 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But it was already set on course | May 16 00:28 |
| MinceR | is that what the party representatives said? | May 16 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | though faked elections of 1996 hint otherwise | May 16 00:29 |
| scientes | and I really respect Putin saying that Russia cannot be a country if it is not soverign, that other countries may be able to exist that way, but not Russia----sure that means that he is claiming power for himself, but I prefer to the fake way things run in the US | May 16 00:29 |
| scientes | it is just more honest | May 16 00:29 |
| scientes | and I've read War and Peace, and I appreciate the sentiment | May 16 00:29 |
| scientes | unlike Americans, he is asserting himself, and stating his position | May 16 00:29 |
| MinceR | i would prefer him to rot in a grave | May 16 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Talk is cheap | May 16 00:30 |
| scientes | yeah good point | May 16 00:30 |
| scientes | what about this law that businesses have to accept credit cards? | May 16 00:30 |
| scientes | is it good for the state, or just a way of removing annoyances from the super-rich? | May 16 00:31 |
| MinceR | another step in tracking all of your purchses | May 16 00:31 |
| MinceR | s/hs/has/ | May 16 00:31 |
| scientes | the privacy is actually not as important | May 16 00:31 |
| scientes | IMHO | May 16 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I am not aware | May 16 00:31 |
| MinceR | and possibly also the ability to invalidate all your money at any moment they like | May 16 00:31 |
| MinceR | not as important to you, perhaps | May 16 00:31 |
| scientes | ^^^ yeah that one | May 16 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | > and possibly also the ability to invalidate all your money at any moment they like | May 16 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: On point | May 16 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | Not unprecedented | May 16 00:32 |
| scientes | China is doing that en mass | May 16 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | State banks have around 70% of the market | May 16 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | and they share information on whom not to give money | May 16 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | and their decisions could be based on virtually anything | May 16 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | not accountable, not verifiable | May 16 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | some businesses were completely ruined by simply not being able to bank | May 16 00:34 |
| MinceR | yet another thing they could do is arbitrarily prevent certain businesses from receiving payment | May 16 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: yes | May 16 00:35 |
| MinceR | or even restrict who can buy what where | May 16 00:35 |
| MinceR | because the state likes to decide for you what you spend "your" money on | May 16 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't think they've done that | May 16 00:36 |
| MinceR | yet | May 16 00:36 |
| XRevan86 | would be in their style to forbid all money transfer from state banks to inoagents or persons non-grata | May 16 00:37 |
| MinceR | hungary already has a system of employment benefits which are restricted in what you can spend them on and where, in exchange for reduced tax on them | May 16 00:37 |
| MinceR | because everyone needs to have the state as their daddy, apparently | May 16 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And when Putin says that Russia must be sovereign, this also counts as populism | May 16 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And you won't find a serious politician that'd claim otherwise anyway. | May 16 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | And about why Russia is a lot like a sad parody on USSR: Russian economy is getting increasingly more centralised, but this time it's built around profit-making. | May 16 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | a vast machine of businesses of Putin friends that downloads money from Russia into offshores. | May 16 00:45 |
| scientes | <XRevan86> And about why Russia is a lot like a sad parody on USSR: Russian economy is getting increasingly more centralised, but this time it's built around profit-making. | May 16 00:46 |
| scientes | yes | May 16 00:46 |
| scientes | like here you can't even find those industrial large potatoes | May 16 00:46 |
| scientes | they are all small plot | May 16 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | and at the same time the same people with families in France or the UK talk about faith, homeland security and national integrity. | May 16 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | That's the sovereignity Putin has in mind for Russia. | May 16 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | sovereignty | May 16 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | backstage politics, mad bureaucracy, cronyism, bottling news up, special treatment, state-backed worker unions, police culture… | May 16 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | taken right from the USSR and into Russia it goes | May 16 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | and of course autocracy, fake elections, a supreme leader | May 16 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | oh, and of course CPSU careerist politicians | May 16 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | changed shoes in a snap | May 16 00:58 |
| XRevan86 | Turns out, they always hated all those bad things USSR did. | May 16 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | probably why they're so good at repeating them | May 16 00:59 |
| amarsh04 | shestowitz Theodore T'so emailed me cc"d to LKML | May 16 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | By police culture I mean culture in the police workforce. | May 16 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://youtu.be/Sqg4CJieqPw a very cute gist of Putin | May 16 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Путин про 3 президентский срок [2008] - YouTube | May 16 01:12 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You can appreciate the honesty, if you learn Russian :P | May 16 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | Putin here (2008) talks about a possible third run for presidency. | May 16 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | > if you learn Russian :P | May 16 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | … or find a transcript in the description and process it through translation software | May 16 01:15 |
| scientes | in a sec | May 16 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: This video is fun, because he is not wrong. The kind of honest guy you'd think he is. | May 16 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | Of course this is 2008, it's got worse in that aspect. | May 16 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | But he says one thing and then eventually does the opposite. | May 16 01:22 |
| XRevan86 | If you want an example of an obviously hypocritical Putin, try something with the word "Internet" in it. | May 16 01:23 |
| XRevan86 | Russia has the freest Internet, all that. | May 16 01:24 |
| scientes | haha | May 16 01:25 |
| scientes | Facebook has their hands in it in Central and South America | May 16 01:25 |
| scientes | one thing that became clear once I left the US is how big the empire is | May 16 01:26 |
| scientes | its presence was so pronounced in Costa Rica | May 16 01:26 |
| scientes | and everywhere US dollars are accepted | May 16 01:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Russia not need Facebook, Russia have https://cdn.incrussia.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Manuel-Blondeau-Corbis-_-Contributor-front-1.jpg | May 16 01:27 |
| XRevan86 | oops, wrong photo | May 16 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D0%B8_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%88%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%A3%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2._2015-1.jpg | May 16 01:28 |
| scientes | who is that? | May 16 01:28 |
| scientes | its jsut that all this corruption, i've seen it, it doesn't suprise me | May 16 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Pavel Durov, the former owner of the social network VK, and Alisher Usmanov, the current one. | May 16 01:28 |
| scientes | corruption works differn'tly perhaps in the US | May 16 01:28 |
| scientes | oh yeah, you definitely have a point there | May 16 01:29 |
| scientes | empires produce some nice things | May 16 01:29 |
| scientes | like look at the Mongols | May 16 01:29 |
| scientes | but they don't last forever | May 16 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Vladimir_Putin_at_award_ceremonies_%282018-11-27%29_15.jpg I should've used this one | May 16 01:30 |
| scientes | I like many things the empire brings, but it is over, and no act of man can change that | May 16 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | > The Sunday Times listed him as the second richest person in the UK with an estimated fortune of £10.65bn | May 16 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alisher_Usmanov#English_Wikipedia :D | May 16 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alisher Usmanov - Wikipedia | May 16 01:32 | |
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| MinceR | reminds me of cheeto hitler | May 16 08:32 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/05/15/renewed-autopsy-of-journalist-sergey-dorenko-reveals-no-signs-of-poisoning | May 16 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 16 11:45 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: problem is it depends on the poison how detectable it is. | May 16 13:47 |
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| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fvz.ru%2Fnews%2F2019%2F5%2F16%2F977955.html | May 16 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | May 16 15:47 | |
| XRevan86 | Putin about Yekaterinburg protests | May 16 15:47 |
| XRevan86 | Putin doesn't know that it's not the first time the population responds with irritation to construction of churches in place of museums, parks, etc. | May 16 15:48 |
| XRevan86 | > a minority must submit to the majority | May 16 15:48 |
| XRevan86 | The minority is of course those who don't like the idea of a cathedral instead of a park within the city centre. | May 16 15:50 |
| schestowitz | what % are atheist in Russia? | May 16 15:51 |
| schestowitz | also, why are new churches/cathedrals built? | May 16 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Over here they shut shut down gradually, as few bother going to any of them | May 16 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "what % are atheist in Russia?" – that's not really relevant, a lot of protesters are Christians. | May 16 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The state looks especially sympathetically when a church used to be somewhere and then it didn't. | May 16 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | On this very spot where the park is located used to be a cathedral, but it was demolished in 1930s. | May 16 15:53 |
| schestowitz | they can use it to control the population | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | not a novel idea | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | a fake unifying factor | May 16 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, absolutely. | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | at the head of which is an invisible thing you get to define, as it never talks for itself | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | "GOD BLESS AMERICA" | May 16 15:54 |
| schestowitz | OK MAN, NUKE IRAN! GOD BLESS! | May 16 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | It's a way to give themself additional authority, as the Patriarch never says wrong things. | May 16 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | and what can possibly go wrong with ideology of slave-like obidience? | May 16 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | It shows that Moscow Patriarchy is sympathetic to the olden ways of the Russian Empire. | May 16 15:57 |
| XRevan86 | Orthodoxy, Absolutism, Nationality | May 16 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | Love Russia, love the Tsar, love GodЪ. | May 16 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a no-brainer for the state to support the Russian Orthodox Church. | May 16 16:02 |
| XRevan86 | loyalty is priceless | May 16 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | Putin's statement shows that they think they can fix this. | May 16 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | by alienating and separating the protesters from the city population | May 16 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | and shift the public opinion in their favour with fake peer pressure | May 16 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's a pie chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia | May 16 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Religion in Russia - Wikipedia | May 16 16:09 | |
| schestowitz | people can change religions | May 16 16:09 |
| schestowitz | these things are so meaningless | May 16 16:09 |
| schestowitz | look at the spread is islam for inatcne | May 16 16:09 |
| schestowitz | the garments are the common denominator | May 16 16:09 |
| schestowitz | (or facial hair) | May 16 16:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It shows where sympathies lie. | May 16 16:10 |
| schestowitz | just now: https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/05/16/structural-flaws-in-sukhoi-superjet-100-airplanes-under-consideration-in-sheremetyevo-fire-investigation-reports | May 16 16:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 16 16:10 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Putin wants to wake guilt in the majority. | May 16 16:11 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The officials sell the narrative that there was a minor malfunction and a series of pilot errors. | May 16 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | As far as I know, Aeroflot hasn't recalled SSJ100's from flights at all. | May 16 16:13 |
| XRevan86 | even as a temporary precaution | May 16 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | > "GET /main/login HTTP/1.1", referrer: "https://loadaverage.org/" | May 16 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Public timeline - LoadAverage | May 16 16:24 | |
| XRevan86 | So, someone just accessed the login page to cause it or what? | May 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | so what do people say? | May 16 16:25 |
| schestowitz | (not state-owned English-speaking media) | May 16 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | oops | May 16 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | wrong channels | May 16 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | channel | May 16 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | sorry | May 16 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Also, was there a gas pipe explosion of was it terror? | May 16 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I think everyone agrees that the reason why the exposion was so spectacular is because the pilot decided to land with full gas tanks. | May 16 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | and because the plane's electronics were disabled with a lighting strike, the pilot / pilots didn't manage to land it | May 16 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | as I understand it, because the plane was heavy | May 16 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | And the reason why everyone talks about SSJ100 being full of crap is because lighting strikes aren't supposed to be a big deal for aeroplanes. | May 16 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Did Purin try to make up an alternative story? | May 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | Like MiG next to the plane machine-gunning the cockpit? | May 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz | (like in Ukraine) | May 16 16:35 |
| schestowitz | https://www.extremetech.com/computing/291429-intel-unveils-clear-linux-os-update-at-open-source-summit | May 16 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Unveils Clear Linux OS Update at Open Source Summit - ExtremeTech | May 16 16:35 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The Russian media initially tried to shift the blame for 40 deaths onto other passengers. | May 16 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Claimed that when people were leaving the burning plane, they took luggage with themselves, stalling others. | May 16 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | but later they admitted this is not true | May 16 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | now they blame the pilots | May 16 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | and don't focus on that pilots couldn't pilot *a failed broken* aeroplane. | May 16 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | and on that SSJ100 in general don't have a stellar record | May 16 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | they fail a lot | May 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1129046073958424579 | May 16 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@therealpadams: @schestowitz Quite possobly... Enlighten me. How is an open standard not open and how is anything MIT licensed not open? | May 16 16:43 | |
| schestowitz | OOXML is just Microsoft Office with bribery and corruption of ISO for marketing purposes. It's well documented. VS Code is uses to sell VS, a blob for Windows (back doors, DRM etc.). | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | OOXML is just Microsoft Office with bribery and corruption of ISO for marketing purposes. It's well documented. VS Code is used to sell MSVS, a blob for Windows (back doors, DRM etc.). | May 16 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | + OOXML isn't OOXML compliant | May 16 16:44 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | May 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even want to reply to him tbh | May 16 16:45 |
| schestowitz | it's a waste of time, see context | May 16 16:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: You could link to Wikipedia too | May 16 16:46 |
| schestowitz | which page? | May 16 16:46 |
| schestowitz | and which topic? | May 16 16:46 |
| schestowitz | wikipedia is sabotaged by MS PR firms | May 16 16:46 |
| schestowitz | (a subject we covered in the past with proof) | May 16 16:46 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML#Criticism | May 16 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Standardization of Office Open XML - Wikipedia | May 16 16:46 | |
| schestowitz | haha | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | i don't want to link to anything ooxml from wikipedia | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | I know who wrote these pages | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft literally PAID some of them | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | and they admitted it | May 16 16:47 |
| schestowitz | iirc, jimbo wales blasted them for it, as well.. | May 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1129050409040044034 | May 16 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@therealpadams: @schestowitz So you don't like them? That's why they're not open? #musttryharder | May 16 16:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Besides, OOXML is indeed redundant. The only reason it exists is because Microsoft is more comfy with it. | May 16 16:48 |
| schestowitz | that's the "you're just jealous" card; weak card. | May 16 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | They just wanted something that's mapped to MSO's internal structure, so that's it easy to implement | May 16 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | for them and for no one else | May 16 16:49 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't see "you're just jealous" in his reply though. | May 16 16:50 |
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| schestowitz | it's similat | May 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | the "jealous" card comes from Gates apologists | May 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | for Microsoft it's "hater | May 16 16:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He says that you see Microsoft as not open, because you want them not to be open. | May 16 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I criticise many for faking it | May 16 16:52 |
| schestowitz | MSFT is one of many | May 16 16:52 |
| schestowitz | MSFT is overdoing it | May 16 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | I'd suggest him to read OOXML | May 16 16:53 |
| XRevan86 | Also VSCode's binaries are not MIT-licensed. | May 16 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | It's like claiming Google Chrome is free software | May 16 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | BSDL-licensed | May 16 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1129051986295427072 | May 16 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@therealpadams: @schestowitz I did not suggest you were jealous of anything. I _implied_ you have no idea what you're talking about… https://t.co/mm8bUIIz36 | May 16 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | "I did not suggest you were jealous of anything. I _implied_ you have no idea what you're talking about because you claim an open standard and an MIT licensed project are not open." | May 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | One if a fake (bribed-for) 'standard' which was widely opposed and the other "open core" aka free bait | May 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | One is a fake (bribed-for) 'standard' which was widely opposed and the other "open core" aka free bait | May 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ISO | May 16 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ISO - Techrights | May 16 16:57 | |
| XRevan86 | "open core" doesn't really apply to VSCode though, because, as far as I know, all non-open parts are utterly worthless – spyware | May 16 16:57 |
| XRevan86 | but their value is that it's already built binaries | May 16 16:58 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but what term to use? | May 16 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Good question. | May 16 16:58 |
| XRevan86 | and he could play the VSCodium card | May 16 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | which is more of a workaround though | May 16 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | And if you just heard that VSCode is free, hip and cool and want to try it out, you'll just get it from microsoft.com | May 16 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | except what you get is not free | May 16 17:01 |
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| XRevan86 | and because Electron applications are such a pain to compile, it's somewhat of a miracle VSCodium exists | May 16 17:02 |
| XRevan86 | Unlikely GNU/Linux distributions will ship VSCode built from source. | May 16 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I guess you could say that VSCode has proprietary distribution with sources available. | May 16 17:06 |
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| XRevan86 | just like Google Chrome | May 16 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | except for WideVine I guess | May 16 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | They're removing Adobe Flash plugin and they've released the PDF plugin, but they still have proprietary WideVine (HTML5 DRM) in Google Chrome. | May 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | yes, they choose snaps etc. | May 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz | the uaual | May 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14918082 | May 16 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #redhat now emulating 'app store' mentality. First #flathub and now https://blog.openshift.com/red-hat-openshift-operator-certification/ the blobification of FOSS | May 16 17:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.openshift.com | Red Hat OpenShift Operator Certification – Red Hat OpenShift Blog | May 16 17:09 | |
| XRevan86 | Ah, yes, snap, a perfect way to avoid reproducible builds. | May 16 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | just ship a blob and be done with it | May 16 17:10 |
| scientes | snap is horrible | May 16 17:24 |
| scientes | i wrote support for it into my command-not-found | May 16 17:25 |
| scientes | the devs are arrogant too | May 16 17:25 |
| scientes | red hat did develop a FUSE for virtual machines | May 16 17:26 |
| scientes | i haven't use it yet, but it looks promising | May 16 17:26 |
| scientes | no one was ever fired for going Red Hat | May 16 17:26 |
| scientes | m4 is madness | May 16 17:44 |
| scientes | ` and ' | May 16 17:44 |
| scientes | and they mean differn't things | May 16 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Poking autotools? | May 16 17:44 |
| scientes | no, some project uses it to preprocess assembly | May 16 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | 2018: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fzona.media%2Farticle%2F2018%2F07%2F30%2Fprosecutor | May 16 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | May 16 17:48 | |
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| XRevan86 | > "If a case is initiated, closing it becomes disadvantageous". A former prosecutor talks about investigator oversight. | May 16 17:52 |
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| XRevan86 | https://patch.cx/objects/5eb8e4ad-6177-4d7f-bd39-4e199fb436a5 oh no | May 16 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patch.cx | Pleroma | May 16 21:03 | |
| XRevan86 | > I don't believe for a second that anyone there is clever enough to successfully port Gab's data into Mastodon. | May 16 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | heh | May 16 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | On a positive sidenote, this should put an end to the "Pleroma is for Nazis" myth once and for all. | May 16 21:15 |
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| MinceR | https://www.diyphotography.net/using-older-adobe-cc-apps-could-get-you-sued-adobe-warns/ | May 16 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.diyphotography.net | Using older Adobe CC apps could get you sued, Adobe warns - DIY Photography | May 16 22:06 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19012562 | May 16 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 16 22:20 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19012153 | May 16 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 16 23:30 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.adobe.com/au/legal/terms.html 11.2 "Termination by Us" "(g) we elect to discontinue the Services or Software, in whole or in part " This is black and white and has been in the adobe license for a long time. | May 17 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Legal Terms of Use | Adobe | May 17 00:13 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so any software that goes EOL from creative cloud you don't have a license to use any more. | May 17 00:14 |
| MinceR | yet people were stupid enough to give adobe their money | May 17 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Its been that Elect clause that causes me to hate the cloud as well. | May 17 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Opps the adobe cloud. | May 17 00:16 |
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| oiaohm | There rules say they have to give you 30 days notice if you are using something EOL before they can sue or terminate you complete account. | May 17 00:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: all of 11.2 in the adobe license is a good read they have many methods they can just up and cancel the software license. | May 17 00:21 |
| MinceR | or one can save their time and use gimp instead | May 17 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | or krita | May 17 00:23 |
| oiaohm | https://www.adobe.com/au/legal/licenses-terms.html Most of the adobe cloud stuff is under that same single license. So point "(a) you breach any provision of the Terms (or act in a manner that clearly shows you do not intend to, or are unable to, comply with the Terms);" is kind of nasty. | May 17 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Licenses and Terms of Use | Adobe | May 17 00:23 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, here's another c++ wart http://paste.debian.net/1081809/ | May 17 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | debian Pastezone | May 17 00:24 | |
| scientes | it can't up-cast intelligently here | May 17 00:24 |
| oiaohm | So you breach g they can trigger a and kick you out the adobe creative cloud market place. | May 17 00:24 |
| *XRevan86 has his head deep in PHP right now. | May 17 00:24 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You can't scare me with C++! | May 17 00:24 |
| scientes | XRevan86, i'll pray for you | May 17 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Don't, Spaghetti Monster can make it worse %) | May 17 00:25 |
| MinceR | seems to me it can't upcast because it can't even determine the template argument | May 17 00:26 |
| MinceR | so it doesn't know what to cast to | May 17 00:26 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: XRevan86 Its more than just gimp/krita. But there are decent alternatives to most of it. Yes buying products individually from different vendors sounds horrible but it hell load safter than the adobe single linked license covering everything that is designed to go off explosively in case of breach. | May 17 00:26 |
| oiaohm | safter/safer | May 17 00:26 |
| MinceR | plus adobe developers are idiots | May 17 00:28 |
| scientes | what about developers that build roofs with adobe? | May 17 00:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator you could always rebuid php with this and have the slowest time possible. | May 17 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator: The single instruction C compiler | May 17 00:29 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so you are not at the worst yet. | May 17 00:29 |
| scientes | lawl that is awesome oiaohm https://raw.githubusercontent.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/master/overview/mov_asm.png | May 17 00:30 |
| scientes | that should merged into llvm as a lowering pass | May 17 00:32 |
| scientes | to support these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer | May 17 00:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | One instruction set computer - Wikipedia | May 17 00:32 | |
| scientes | its kinda a joke however | May 17 00:32 |
| scientes | because it is all hinged on what the definition of an instruction is | May 17 00:33 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator the two pictures there are in fact doing the same things. | May 17 00:33 |
| scientes | I know | May 17 00:33 |
| oiaohm | Using 1 instruction is scary enough bigger. | May 17 00:33 |
| scientes | I wonder if there is something like this for llvm-ir | May 17 00:33 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly full joke. There are such thing as single instruction cpu/micro controllers. | May 17 00:33 |
| scientes | yes i know | May 17 00:33 |
| scientes | but i was saying that a cpu being "1 instruction" is semantics | May 17 00:34 |
| scientes | it is just extreme-RISC | May 17 00:34 |
| scientes | and you would probably get better power profile with a low-power AVR or something | May 17 00:34 |
| scientes | or a ASIC like with trasit cards | May 17 00:35 |
| oiaohm | Not really RISC having individual load/stores means you normally cannot get to single instruction. | May 17 00:35 |
| scientes | places where you have to power with electromagnetic field | May 17 00:35 |
| oiaohm | Its really the difference between cisc and risc. cisc you can use a single instruction somewhere todo everything. risc you basically cannot. | May 17 00:35 |
| scientes | again semantics | May 17 00:36 |
| scientes | The M/o/Vfuscator contains a complete mov-only floating point emulator. | May 17 00:36 |
| oiaohm | The developer of it has really for fun pushed the limits. | May 17 00:37 |
| scientes | doesn't support function pointers | May 17 00:38 |
| scientes | c89 is fine, but it should support function pointers | May 17 00:39 |
| scientes | being able to claim fully c89 support would be pretty impressive | May 17 00:40 |
| scientes | or full llvm-ir support | May 17 00:41 |
| scientes | although that doesn't have as clear of a definition | May 17 00:41 |
| scientes | https://github.com/obfuscator-llvm/obfuscator/wiki/Features | May 17 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Features · obfuscator-llvm/obfuscator Wiki · GitHub | May 17 00:44 | |
| scientes | should be called the de-optimizer | May 17 00:44 |
| MinceR | pessimizer | May 17 00:44 |
| *scientes is laughing out loud | May 17 00:45 | |
| scientes | MinceR, tell that to Candide | May 17 00:45 |
| MinceR | Candide is dead, baby | May 17 00:45 |
| scientes | all these obfusiators are stupid | May 17 00:48 |
| scientes | the best obfusiator would actually be an optimizaer: function merging | May 17 00:49 |
| scientes | which llvm is actually developing | May 17 00:49 |
| scientes | because it puts totally unrelated code together | May 17 00:49 |
| scientes | these other stuff you can just run an optimizer on and it will sort it out | May 17 00:50 |
| oiaohm | scientes: lot of ways once an obfuscator gets in enough usage someone will create a counter. | May 17 00:50 |
| MinceR | function inlining? | May 17 00:50 |
| scientes | MinceR, no http://www.llvm.org/docs/MergeFunctions.html | May 17 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.llvm.org | MergeFunctions pass, how it works — LLVM 9 documentation | May 17 00:50 | |
| scientes | I actually watched the presentation in person in San Francisco a few years back | May 17 00:50 |
| scientes | when they developed the first version | May 17 00:51 |
| MinceR | ah, that one | May 17 00:51 |
| scientes | that will actually be quite effective at obfuscating | May 17 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Yes and no scientes. It reduces the code you have to decode. | May 17 00:53 |
| oiaohm | So yes it makes it harder in one way and simpler in another. | May 17 00:53 |
| oiaohm | Generated program from a Merged function processed program revsered could in fact be better than the original. | May 17 00:54 |
| scientes | but there is no way you can split them back apart | May 17 01:00 |
| scientes | so it makes it really hard to grok | May 17 01:00 |
| scientes | these other techniques can all be reversed with good software | May 17 01:00 |
| oiaohm | Does come the question should have the merged function code been independent in the first place. | May 17 01:01 |
| scientes | not really | May 17 01:01 |
| scientes | it can merge stuff that really is unrelated | May 17 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Remember more lines of code normally equal bigger code maintenance problem. | May 17 01:02 |
| scientes | there are other optimizations like that, that no sane person would do by hand | May 17 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Lot if inlines are used in unrelated areas. | May 17 01:02 |
| oiaohm | if/of | May 17 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Merge functions is not much worse than heavy inline usage. | May 17 01:03 |
| scientes | but it can also do bizaare things | May 17 01:03 |
| oiaohm | Some game programmers optimising for speed do bizaare things as well. | May 17 01:04 |
| scientes | yeah, but they really should put their optimizations into the compilers | May 17 01:05 |
| oiaohm | That is basically what MergeFunctions does. Some game developers have been using flow graph compares to locate where inlines should be. | May 17 01:06 |
| scientes | these things belong in compilers | May 17 01:06 |
| scientes | not everyone should have to think about them | May 17 01:07 |
| scientes | i like writing code that looks slow, and trusting that the compiler will fix it | May 17 01:07 |
| scientes | you never answered my question | May 17 01:07 |
| scientes | <MinceR> plus adobe developers are idiots | May 17 01:07 |
| scientes | <scientes> what about developers that build roofs with adobe? | May 17 01:07 |
| scientes | oh damn, i didn't realize division by zero raises an exception | May 17 01:08 |
| scientes | only Chuck Norris can divide by zero | May 17 01:09 |
| oiaohm | I do remember when 1*1000+2*100+3*10+4 was slower than (((((1*10)+2)*10)+3)*10)+4 of course today compliers smartly solve that to 1234 | May 17 01:09 |
| MinceR | chuck norris can't divide by zero | May 17 01:10 |
| MinceR | chuck norris can't do anything the bible doesn't tell him how to do | May 17 01:11 |
| MinceR | scientes: my statement does not apply to those | May 17 01:11 |
| scientes | oiaohm, compilers will now turn those things *into* multiplications | May 17 01:12 |
| MinceR | chuck norris wants children to be subjected to christian brainwashing | May 17 01:12 |
| scientes | why shouldn't % 0 be defined as 0? | May 17 01:13 |
| scientes | i can see division being undefined, but why %? | May 17 01:14 |
| MinceR | ask a mathematician | May 17 01:14 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is solve engine in most compliers these days. https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29335 Its quite a old thing in fact. | May 17 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | 29335 – transcendental functions with constant arguments should be resolved at compile-time | May 17 01:16 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, yes i noticed that and found it annoyinnnnnnng | May 17 01:18 |
| scientes | i had to use volatile to get around it | May 17 01:18 |
| scientes | and you don't need libgmp for that | May 17 01:18 |
| scientes | you can just use glibc to FCP it | May 17 01:18 |
| scientes | MPFR | May 17 01:19 |
| scientes | clang does that too | May 17 01:19 |
| oiaohm | Really merge functions is that solve engine taken to the next level. | May 17 01:19 |
| scientes | not really | May 17 01:24 |
| scientes | there are totally differn't things | May 17 01:24 |
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| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/d6raxdjus7y21.jpg | May 17 12:59 |
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| XRevan86 | > protesters won? | May 17 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | Not yet, there will be a referendum. I'm suure it'll be fair and square. | May 17 14:24 |
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| XRevan86 | My bet is on that the cathedral will be there. | May 17 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: yes, I thought the same | May 17 16:19 |
| schestowitz | I was going to made a Crimea references | May 17 16:19 |
| schestowitz | but then I thought, OK, let's wait and see | May 17 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Putin needs to save face now | May 17 16:20 |
| schestowitz | else, the message is that protests work | May 17 16:20 |
| schestowitz | and they may try it in other contexts and scenarios as well | May 17 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | and because then they won't get what they want | May 17 16:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fru.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%D0%90%D0%BB%D1%82%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%2C_%D0%98%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 | May 17 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | May 17 16:24 | |
| XRevan86 | ^ the face behind the cathedral | May 17 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Turns out those sportsmen are his men too. | May 17 16:27 |
| schestowitz | who is the Ural Hulk? | May 17 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | Ivan Shtyrkov | May 17 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | no English Wikipedia article either | May 17 16:28 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, Igor Altushkin sponsored major's elections. | May 17 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | at very good terms with the administration | May 17 16:31 |
| XRevan86 | Which reminds me about how the previous major of Ekaterinburg was booted from the office. | May 17 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | * mayor | May 17 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Roizman#Mayor | May 17 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yevgeny Roizman - Wikipedia | May 17 16:38 | |
| XRevan86 | not much here… | May 17 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2017/07/18/yekaterinburg-mayor-drops-out-of-sverdlovsk-governor-s-race-citing-unconstitutional-obstacles-to-his-candidacy there we go | May 17 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 17 16:40 | |
| XRevan86 | found it | May 17 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | Reportedly, still a popular person in Yekaterinburg. | May 17 16:41 |
| schestowitz | ah | May 17 16:43 |
| schestowitz | yes, I saw it | May 17 16:43 |
| schestowitz | but not the older one | May 17 16:43 |
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| XRevan86 | > The language barrier was explained by Julian Assange. With no Russian-speaking Wikileaks staff it it hard to assess what's submitted, but some does get verified https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/ | May 17 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Spy Files Russia | May 17 16:48 | |
| XRevan86 | Started reading in Russian, but uh, is that Google Translate? | May 17 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | Doesn't look all that interesting. | May 17 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: thanks for the links | May 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz | did you see what I wrote about the soldier protester? | May 17 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | I wasn't sure "fantastical biblical" was the term | May 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | but something along these lines | May 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | don't let the government make people afraid to criticise | May 17 17:29 |
| schestowitz | that's what North Korea did, it never ends well | May 17 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I think words "former officer" are more approproate. | May 17 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | he's in a (legal) single-person picket | May 17 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: In Russian the original term is an adjective from a word "fairy tale" | May 17 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | that's why I suggested fabulous and mythical – from fable and myth respectively, which is close | May 17 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | "fabulous" has another connotation which I'm not sure if a bug or a feature in this case :) | May 17 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | and "fantastical" is good too, out of fantasy | May 17 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | So he's a ******* of proportions that are so hard to believe they can be found only in myths and legends | May 17 17:34 |
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| XRevan86 | What amazes me most about this case with the former officer is that after this they've revoked his right to wear the uniform | May 17 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | backdatedly | May 17 17:39 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599437.jpg | May 18 00:21 |
| XRevan86 | Inside tatoos | May 18 00:23 |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, uptime 372 days on 20+ year old hardware :) | May 18 00:44 |
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| kaniini | what do you know, skiboot shit itself again after 4 months | May 18 05:56 |
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| schestowitz | kushal: you? https://kushaldas.in/posts/my-talk-at-pycon-us-2019.html | May 18 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | My talk at PyCon US 2019 | May 18 09:37 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-k9-j-ex | May 18 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scp-wiki.net | SCP-K9-J-EX - SCP Foundation | May 18 14:45 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19011952 | May 18 14:50 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: no | May 18 14:53 |
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| MinceR | what no | May 18 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | technically no | May 18 14:53 |
| MinceR | ...the best kind of no? | May 18 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: that too %) | May 18 14:53 |
| MinceR | :> | May 18 14:54 |
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| XRevan86 | > ssh on 443 | May 18 15:16 |
| XRevan86 | sslh | May 18 15:16 |
| MinceR | :) | May 18 15:16 |
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| XRevan86 | ( https://pleroma.site/notice/9iwA3Qn5ay5jtKTVcO ) | May 18 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | May 18 15:17 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/lVsMhoD.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/HdWdI65 ) | May 18 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When you're both too damn tired so you just nap mid-fight. - Album on Imgur | May 18 15:17 | |
| XRevan86 | But I guess there's an advantage to additionally masking it for HTTPS. | May 18 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | but I'm not sure plain wrapping in TLS will do it | May 18 15:18 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19042630 | May 18 16:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 18 17:40 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19042555 | May 18 17:45 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well not good with article | May 18 19:00 |
| MinceR | he's 100% well now | May 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/9G2aXbL.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/67BeHTZ ) | May 18 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Choose wisely - Album on Imgur | May 18 19:53 | |
| MinceR | https://esolangs.org/wiki/Nil | May 18 19:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esolangs.org | Nil - Esolang | May 18 19:57 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599373.jpg | May 18 20:31 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Foreshadowing? | May 18 20:35 |
| MinceR | :) | May 18 20:35 |
| scientes | god c++ is horrible | May 18 20:37 |
| scientes | you use "auto" and if it can't figure it out if just makes it "int" for no good reason | May 18 20:37 |
| scientes | instead of throwing an error | May 18 20:38 |
| MinceR | there are so many languages that are much worse | May 18 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Um, no, it is supposed to throw an error. | May 18 20:38 |
| scientes | but for a language with so much money poured into it | May 18 20:38 |
| scientes | maybe that is the problem.... | May 18 20:38 |
| scientes | ../lib/IR/Instructions.cpp:3840:18: error: redefinition of 'sort' | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | void SwitchInst::sort() { | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | ^ | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | ../include/llvm/IR/Instructions.h:3318:8: note: previous definition is here | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | void sort() {} | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | how is that a redefinition? | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | I thought I had to do that | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | oh i see | May 18 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | > {} | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | yes | May 18 20:39 |
| scientes | It is still hard to beat C | May 18 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | > you use "auto" and if it can't figure it out if just makes it "int" for no good reason | May 18 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: This really mustn't happen. | May 18 20:40 |
| scientes | ../lib/IR/Instructions.cpp:3852:22: note: candidate function not viable: no known conversion from 'std::pair<unsigned int, unsigned long>' to 'int &' for 1st argument | May 18 20:40 |
| scientes | llvm::sort(Values, [](const auto& lhs, const auto& rhs) {return lhs.second < rhs.second;}); | May 18 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What's Values? | May 18 20:42 |
| scientes | SmallVector<std::pair<uint32_t, uint64_t>, 16> Values; | May 18 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | Let's see what the llvm::sort's prototype looks like… | May 18 20:44 |
| XRevan86 | ah, just like std::sort? | May 18 20:44 |
| scientes | similar https://github.com/llvm-mirror/llvm/commit/15ff8cad10e34a791ce9f99bc974df4fa999a2dc | May 18 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Transforms] Change std::sort to llvm::sort in response to r327219 · llvm-mirror/llvm@15ff8ca · GitHub | May 18 20:44 | |
| XRevan86 | I don't get it | May 18 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | two iterators and a lambda | May 18 20:47 |
| scientes | llvm::sort just takes one iterator | May 18 20:47 |
| scientes | or rather something that has a begin() and end() | May 18 20:47 |
| XRevan86 | Does SmallVector<> qualify? | May 18 20:47 |
| scientes | yeah it works fine on smallvector, but usually i don't use a lambda | May 18 20:48 |
| scientes | i just needed to keep track of the original order | May 18 20:48 |
| scientes | because i'm not sorting in place | May 18 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, I see your problem. | May 18 20:48 |
| scientes | it works if i provide the type | May 18 20:49 |
| scientes | but that error message sucks | May 18 20:49 |
| scientes | ConstantInt *MaxCaseVal = SI->case_end() - 1; | May 18 20:50 |
| scientes | how do i do this? | May 18 20:50 |
| XRevan86 | Sure curious | May 18 20:51 |
| scientes | its so much simpler if you just write what you want the computer to do | May 18 20:51 |
| scientes | instead of have all these hacks on top of hacks | May 18 20:51 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Looks like pointer arithmetics to me %) | May 18 20:51 |
| scientes | cause if I do case_begin() + getNumCases() it will have to walk the whole damn linked-list to get there | May 18 20:52 |
| scientes | it is so stupid | May 18 20:52 |
| scientes | XRevan86, but its insane operator overloading | May 18 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It's a linked list | May 18 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | it's supposed to work that way | May 18 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | ah, stupid me | May 18 20:52 |
| XRevan86 | double-linked | May 18 20:52 |
| scientes | actually LLVM linked lists are mainly forward-linked | May 18 20:52 |
| scientes | http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html#the-waymarking-algorithm | May 18 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-llvm.org | LLVM Programmer’s Manual — LLVM 9 documentation | May 18 20:53 | |
| scientes | they have a bizaare back-list algorithm to save space | May 18 20:53 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599365.jpg | May 18 20:54 |
| scientes | MinceR, that looks like a LLVM dragon on the wall | May 18 20:55 |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't %) | May 18 20:55 |
| scientes | i just hate that C++ is so hacky that you never know what algorithm you are actually using | May 18 20:56 |
| scientes | its like bad algorithm books, which try to focus on the similarities between the algorithms instead of their differences | May 18 20:56 |
| scientes | and also doesn't use O() notation right | May 18 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | Guess which is std::forward_list | May 18 20:58 |
| scientes | I spend more time dealing with C++ than programming LLVM | May 18 20:59 |
| scientes | and I still never really know what algorithms and data structures are being used | May 18 20:59 |
| XRevan86 | You got me curious about lambda arg type deduction, I'll try to reproduce | May 18 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Can I see how SmallVector is defined? | May 18 21:09 |
| scientes | its llvm | May 18 21:09 |
| scientes | http://llvm.org/doxygen/classllvm_1_1SmallVector.html | May 18 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-llvm.org | LLVM: llvm::SmallVector< T, N > Class Template Reference | May 18 21:10 | |
| scientes | http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html#dss-smallvector | May 18 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-llvm.org | LLVM Programmer’s Manual — LLVM 9 documentation | May 18 21:10 | |
| scientes | don't all these speculative execution bugs require high precision timers? | May 18 21:13 |
| scientes | can't we just turn down the timer precesion? | May 18 21:13 |
| MinceR | it might be difficult to deprive attackers of everything that could be used for timing | May 18 21:14 |
| MinceR | especially if you don't want to ruin performance too much | May 18 21:14 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Tried to do the same with std::vector and std::sort, no bug occured. | May 18 21:14 |
| scientes | > SharedArrayBuffer feature has been disabled because it can be used to construct a high-resolution timer. | May 18 21:14 |
| scientes | oh damn its so complicated | May 18 21:15 |
| scientes | maybe we just shouldn't be executing other's code willy-nilly | May 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | for example, the web shouldn't be built on the premise of downloading and running all sorts of crap | May 18 21:20 |
| scientes | it didn't use to be that way | May 18 21:20 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 18 21:20 |
| scientes | it could also have a few more features that enable widgets without js | May 18 21:20 |
| MinceR | web "developers" wouldn't use them | May 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | they have features that enable images, links and text without js | May 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | yet there are pages that lack some or all of those if js is disabled | May 18 21:21 |
| scientes | <video> didn't work without javascript initially | May 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | <img> worked without javascript | May 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | hell, it worked before javascript even existed | May 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | now we have lots of sites were images won't load without js | May 18 21:22 |
| scientes | and why can't firefox provide a noscript built in | May 18 21:22 |
| scientes | in chrome you can't even turn it off | May 18 21:22 |
| MinceR | because mozilla doesn't care what you want | May 18 21:22 |
| MinceR | if they ever did, they stopped ages ago | May 18 21:22 |
| MinceR | also, uMatrix also exists for chrome | May 18 21:22 |
| scientes | well i don't use chrome | May 18 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2481802b | May 18 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | Debian Pastezone | May 18 21:24 | |
| XRevan86 | same idea, nothing explodes | May 18 21:26 |
| scientes | std::get<1>(lhs) | May 18 21:26 |
| scientes | WTF | May 18 21:26 |
| scientes | its so verbose | May 18 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Just the tuple syntax. | May 18 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | works with pairs too | May 18 21:27 |
| scientes | ok | May 18 21:27 |
| scientes | https://wandbox.org/permlink/MaGXz5XT5CXvyD6y | May 18 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wandbox.org | [Wandbox]三へ( へ՞ਊ ՞)へ ﾊｯﾊｯ | May 18 21:27 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: As you can see, it works. | May 18 21:28 |
| scientes | like there is so little development into making no-js sites work better | May 18 21:28 |
| scientes | like a widge for expanding context would be nice | May 18 21:29 |
| scientes | also also the lack of backwards compatibiltiy on the internet | May 18 21:32 |
| MinceR | something that's compatible with HTML5 will never be good | May 18 21:32 |
| MinceR | it's a baroque mess | May 18 21:32 |
| scientes | the internet was actually quite spunky in 2003 or so | May 18 21:35 |
| scientes | jquery doesn't even support old browsers anymore | May 18 21:35 |
| scientes | hell glibc dropped support for linux before 3.2 | May 18 21:36 |
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| MinceR | they can probably just load 3 polyfills on top of each other on those old browsers | May 18 21:37 |
| MinceR | and then run jquery on top of that | May 18 21:37 |
| MinceR | and if the user wanted to run anything other than that one tab, well, that's just too bad | May 18 21:37 |
| scientes | I have to regularly restart firefox | May 18 21:38 |
| scientes | cause it uses too much ram | May 18 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And somehow still works on OpenVZ 6. A pity. | May 18 21:38 |
| scientes | XRevan86, yes 2.6.32 on x86 | May 18 21:38 |
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| scientes | uggh i have not been very productive the last few days | May 18 21:42 |
| scientes | all the code i've written i've realized is the wrong approach | May 18 21:42 |
| XRevan86 | https://llvm.org/Logo.html "This dragon image is owned by Apple Inc. and is available for your download and use royalty-free. By downloading this image, Apple grants you, and you accept, a non-exclusive license to use this image. All right, title and interest in the image, including the copyright therein, is retained by Apple." | May 18 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-llvm.org | The LLVM Compiler Infrastructure Project | May 18 21:45 | |
| XRevan86 | Okay, I guess. | May 18 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | > Adobe Illustrator Version | May 18 21:45 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, what else could it be. | May 18 21:45 |
| scientes | if only they could switch to git | May 18 21:49 |
| scientes | gcc too isn't git | May 18 21:49 |
| scientes | kinda blows me away that they people can write a compiler but they still don't use git | May 18 21:50 |
| XRevan86 | git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git | May 18 21:50 |
| scientes | https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GitMirror | May 18 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | GitMirror - GCC Wiki | May 18 21:51 | |
| scientes | its a mirror of svn | May 18 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | oh | May 18 21:51 |
| scientes | they've been talking forever about moving https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2015-08/msg00140.html | May 18 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Jason Merrill - Moving to git | May 18 21:52 | |
| scientes | I remember it coming up in 2013 at the tools cauldron, yet still it hasn't happened | May 18 21:52 |
| scientes | ruby managed to switch recently | May 18 21:53 |
| scientes | and go managed to switch from hg to git | May 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | afaik darkplaces hasn't managed to switch either | May 18 21:57 |
| scientes | I don't see why languages need self-hosting compilers | May 18 21:59 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Self-hosting? | May 18 21:59 |
| scientes | oh yeah, but gcc has shitty cross-compilation support. | May 18 21:59 |
| scientes | because it can't natively cross-compile the way llvm can | May 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | because they don't want to depend on another | May 18 22:00 |
| scientes | ?? | May 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | which is understandable when you consider who controls our c/c++ compilers | May 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't want to be at the mercy of apple or red hat either | May 18 22:01 |
| scientes | but its hard to base a project on gcc when it sucks for cross-compilation | May 18 22:01 |
| scientes | I just might like hacking on it better as it is more C-ish | May 18 22:03 |
| scientes | having been a C project for so long | May 18 22:03 |
| MinceR | see, that's why you want self-hosting even if you start on top of gcc | May 18 22:03 |
| scientes | well it will never be totally self hosting | May 18 22:04 |
| scientes | that is too expensive | May 18 22:04 |
| scientes | go does that, but it is stupid | May 18 22:04 |
| scientes | it should depend on llvm or gcc | May 18 22:04 |
| scientes | and llvm is way better cause it is a shared library | May 18 22:05 |
| MinceR | OTOH, it's controlled by apple | May 18 22:06 |
| scientes | not really | May 18 22:06 |
| scientes | ahh its so hard to control the way sort works to do it in place | May 18 22:39 |
| scientes | again, C++ is super verbose | May 18 22:39 |
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| scientes | it doesn't have the quality it use to have *ou | May 18 23:38 |
| scientes | https://thedailywtf.com/articles/interpolat-interpolation-on | May 18 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedailywtf.com | Interpolat(interpolation)on - The Daily WTF | May 18 23:38 | |
| scientes | pretty much every lisp program looks like that | May 18 23:38 |
| MinceR | lol | May 18 23:39 |
| MinceR | i have seen some lisp code and it didn't look like that | May 18 23:39 |
| scientes | https://thedailywtf.com/articles/exceptionally-serial | May 18 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedailywtf.com | Exceptionally Serial - The Daily WTF | May 18 23:40 | |
| XRevan86 | https://witches.live/@anna/102109943210391330 this is gold | May 19 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WARRIOR FEMALE: "@mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se you can have clien…" - witches.live | May 19 00:13 | |
| MinceR | more like sad | May 19 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | "hell you're using some bizarre gnu social knockoff or some shit with weirdass bang hashtags that doesnt include @ in replies and i can still tell what's going on on my mastodon instance." – this part | May 19 00:37 |
| MinceR | ah yes | May 19 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | And it's addressed to MMN-o. | May 19 00:37 |
| MinceR | can't expect a discord fan to know or care | May 19 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/HestiaPi/status/1129874836182982656 | May 19 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HestiaPi: @schestowitz @openHAB #HestiaPi is #OpenSourceHardware too! Everything is available on https://t.co/3uOZpRxRst | May 19 04:50 | |
| schestowitz | Re: Jitsi on the rocks> -------- Forwarded Message -------- | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Please use our new Jitsi forum Re: TLS certificate for | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > download.jitsi.org has expired | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 21:34:32 -0700 | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > From: Jitsi Mailman <mailman@sip-communicator.org> | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > To: xxxxxxx | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Hey there, | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > We, have recently moved all Jitsi discussions to a new Discourse forum | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > that you can find here: | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > https://community.jitsi.org | May 19 05:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.jitsi.org | Jitsi Community Forum - developers & users | May 19 05:47 | |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Please send us your questions there! | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Love, | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | > Your personal Jitsi team | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | I remember when ioerror still recommended jitsi. I even used it with rianne at one point, iirc. | May 19 05:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/minininjalove/status/1129964573203816448 | May 19 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@minininjalove: @schestowitz Unconsciously drunk. | May 19 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | > FYI | May 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | In the past I mistook Discord for Discourse (never used either of these). One is proprietary, the other GPL. | May 19 05:54 |
| schestowitz | > Jitsi was good for a long time but now that it may be on the way out, | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > that leaves just Blink. It's a dangerous situation for there to be only | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > a single remaining SIP client. | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > I figured weakening or destroying Jitsi was one of the side objectives | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > when they took out Jacob. | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | But it seems like bad taste rather than proprietary software. Fefora/AskFedora picked Discourse, it's Mozilla/Rust that went with Discord. | May 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | > Expired certs are not a good sign of healthy operation. | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > I didn't look past the javascript. When I last checked the Jitsi forum, | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > it needed javascript. Over time, I've gathered the impression that | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > Discourse and others are simply a vehicle to prevent comments on web pages. | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > Taking another look at the Jitsi forum today, they seem to have eased | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > back on the javascript requirement. However, I have not made an account | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > to be sure. Also I see that my mail went into the forum automatically, | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > without any warning or notification: | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > https://community.jitsi.org/t/tls-certificate-for-download-jitsi-org-has-expired/18138 | May 19 06:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.jitsi.org | TLS certificate for download.jitsi.org has expired - users - Jitsi Community Forum - developers & users | May 19 06:07 | |
| schestowitz | > | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > I have neither recollection nor records of having joined their forum | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | > yet. Not good either, if they are posting automatically. | May 19 06:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14794078#a4532620599801373cca2986f53bbfc6 | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Notice how #google keeps 'bastardising' lots of URLs, restructuring and rewriting them for no purpose other than for #surveillance (so that people who click on them have to go through Google). #surveillancecapitalism | May 19 06:22 | |
| schestowitz | ) i dont think this is a configuration issue. one-sided snippets of conversations often appear in diaspora when connecting with non-diaspora services like friendi.ca. for example, i see a reply from one person that is to a person who doesnt appear to have posted here. | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | im not sure that applies here, though its the closest thing i know of to what youre describing. | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | doesn’t show my comments after refreshing | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | thats probably a bug or a sync issue. but its not something i notice happening often. | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | First time it happened to me | May 19 06:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14806881#de0e9bb0589601373cc22986f53bbfc6 | May 19 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Jim Zemlin has blocked #tuxmachines in Twitter, >even< if his colleagues have given interviews to this #gnu #linux news site. #zemlin isn't a Linux person, he just 'monetises' the brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation | May 19 06:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights | May 19 06:26 | |
| schestowitz | "And is that a problem when people protect their privacy?" | May 19 06:26 |
| schestowitz | "#soyouresaying" | May 19 06:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14912357#83ae240059f401373cc02986f53bbfc6 | May 19 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Religious #tribalism causes #socialbreakdown https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/05/08/muslim-antisemitism-increases-the-threat-to-european-jews/ | May 19 06:28 | |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Muslim Antisemitism Increases the Threat to European Jews | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com | May 19 06:28 | |
| schestowitz | per the recent nonsense on phipps blog about how tribes are about hate, i think it is sloppy and a little dangerous to promote the use of “tribalism” as a synonym for “extremism.” | May 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz | we have a perfect word for this. tribalism really isnt the cause here, and going after the wrong cause (such as the way anti-terrorism acts go against privacy and dissent) is the social equivalent of amputating the wrong limb to stave gangrene or cancer. i often try to get people to avoid false equivocation, despite not wanting to be pedantic about words (only when it seems especially dangerous or misleading.) | May 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz | tribalism is ingrained in human interaction. it isnt always a bad thing. there are other things that (when combined with tribalism) are dangerous, such as extremism or fundamentalism. i make the same argument about religion-- its fundamentalism/extremism that kills, not religion (not tribalism either.) | May 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz | " | May 19 06:28 |
| schestowitz | Comparing software os technical things (privacy, security) to religion is always a bad thing. Like comparing psychology to a car. | May 19 06:29 |
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| schestowitz | xchatgnome does not seem to allow change of browser; on two machines it just uses firefox | May 19 07:27 |
| schestowitz | doesn't seem to matter what systemsettings say about default browser | May 19 07:27 |
| schestowitz | it's a years-old problem | May 19 07:27 |
| schestowitz | https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Attic/Xchat-Gnome?action=show&redirect=Xchat-Gnome | May 19 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gnome.org | Attic/Xchat-Gnome - GNOME Wiki! | May 19 07:29 | |
| schestowitz | looks like this too has barely been updated in c decade -- longer than xchat itself | May 19 07:29 |
| schestowitz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/61243 | May 19 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.launchpad.net | Bug #61243 “Xchat open links in mozilla not firefox” : Bugs : xchat package : Ubuntu | May 19 07:31 | |
| schestowitz | old issue | May 19 07:31 |
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| schestowitz | similar issues in sexchat it seems https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html#how-do-i-change-what-browser-is-opened | May 19 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.readthedocs.io | Frequently Asked Questions — HexChat 2.12.0 documentation | May 19 07:33 | |
| schestowitz | short of soft or hardlinking firefox to qupzilla | May 19 07:52 |
| schestowitz | or removing firefox altogrether | May 19 07:52 |
| schestowitz | there appears to be no solution | May 19 07:52 |
| schestowitz | they don't even have the browser in the settings, it is hardcoded with no simple workaround | May 19 07:53 |
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| scientes | what do you do when a code reviewer doesn't understand multiplication? | May 19 13:16 |
| scientes | it really made me frustrated | May 19 13:16 |
| scientes | and just want to quit | May 19 13:16 |
| scientes | I think I should have said: "this is grade school math, please do this review again and put a little more effort into it" | May 19 13:17 |
| scientes | cause I can't put effort into the math when they don't take the effort to understand it before saying they don't understand it | May 19 13:17 |
| schestowitz | lol | May 19 13:19 |
| scientes | and this is LLVM | May 19 13:19 |
| scientes | I thought i was stupid, and it was de-railing the patch set | May 19 13:19 |
| scientes | but I finially realized today it is their problem | May 19 13:19 |
| scientes | if they can't do 1/3 == 33% or 64 / 8 == 8 | May 19 13:19 |
| scientes | or recognize that you have to test for overflow or use saturating multiplication | May 19 13:20 |
| scientes | I had two reviewers question my test for overflow, even though the previous patch had it too, with a comment, and just with a differn't coefficient | May 19 13:20 |
| scientes | and this is LLVM! | May 19 13:21 |
| scientes | I'm just going to put a warning on the next patch, because I have to use multiplication to get the job done | May 19 13:24 |
| scientes | its a form of bikeshedding | May 19 13:24 |
| scientes | its hard to deal with this without insulting people | May 19 13:24 |
| scientes | I'm thinking: This patch contains multiplication. When you see multiplication please think about the rules of multiplication before commenting. | May 19 13:25 |
| scientes | cause I actually changed some algorithms to avoid this stuff, and that is just stupid | May 19 13:26 |
| scientes | and people trust stuff in the code | May 19 13:28 |
| scientes | and treat patches with suspicion | May 19 13:29 |
| scientes | and I hate doing things differntly just because I don't want to deal with the poliitcs | May 19 13:32 |
| scientes | the problem is reviewer that just don't take the effort to understand the code | May 19 13:33 |
| scientes | meh, I can't ask too much | May 19 13:33 |
| scientes | its the psycology of it | May 19 13:35 |
| scientes | they don't take the commit message seriously because it isn't code | May 19 13:35 |
| scientes | but if you say something in the code raising the problem, it becomes easier a week later to remove it | May 19 13:35 |
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| ---MinceR gives voice to scientes kaniini | May 19 13:48 | |
| MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/05/19/37576c211b743483.mp4 | May 19 13:50 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599360.jpg | May 19 13:52 |
| scientes | I just hate it when I feel I have to dump down my algorithms because reviewers don't take the time to understand them | May 19 13:52 |
| scientes | and I also hate when its significantly simple that there has to be a bunch of bike-shedding by people that don't take the time to understand all the issues | May 19 13:55 |
| scientes | i just start leaving stuff out because i'm tired about arguing about it | May 19 13:56 |
| MinceR | that must suck | May 19 13:58 |
| scientes | its the bikeshedding things | May 19 13:58 |
| scientes | if it is sufficiently complicated, no-one will say anything | May 19 13:58 |
| MinceR | :> | May 19 13:58 |
| scientes | so then you regret explaining yourself in the code | May 19 13:59 |
| scientes | because you made it that much easier for someone to not understand what the code is doing | May 19 14:00 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ZwGSkGk.png ( https://imgur.com/gallery/kn6wBLb ) | May 19 16:10 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/599226.jpg | May 19 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | Technically not wrong. The best kind of not wrong. | May 19 16:25 |
| MinceR | :> | May 19 16:29 |
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| XRevan86 | Star Trek: Voyager S03E07: the "science is a leap of faith" episode. | May 19 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | Not the first Star Trek episode that pisses on the scientific method, but the one that does it most intensely so far. | May 19 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | * the most intensely | May 19 17:27 |
| MinceR | (audio) (video) https://hugelol.com/lol/600779 | May 19 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | Thantasstic voyage | May 19 17:41 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A bit too long. | May 19 17:45 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | May 19 17:47 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ‘Remotely’ is a Simple VNC Viewer For Linux Desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124027 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cfc61959-cc61-4073-91c6-11b80a2bb72a] | May 19 19:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124026 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6af36973-2d11-4bcd-ac86-44b922380c29] | May 19 19:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DXVK 1.2.1 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124028 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0ef22fe-720e-4dff-9894-18059cbb0b1c] | May 19 20:04 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124029 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d02bfe47-4d7d-4944-9ebf-c55ee293cb7e] | May 19 20:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LibreOffice 6.3 Alpha Was Tagged This Week, Stable Expected In August http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124030 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd0b2256-0c46-421e-8d1a-1a202af44c30] | May 19 20:10 | |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/2l1t96mjtaz11.jpg | May 19 20:13 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124031 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2fe1f646-1a27-4b74-86c3-6bb80cf794eb] | May 19 20:16 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Modding Devices and Freedom: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, Brushless Motors, HestiaPi and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124032 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87b15e26-ec50-4381-9b78-8d59702b18bd] | May 19 20:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: Red Hat, IBM and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124033 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f373fe79-b583-456a-87b9-f0b400c6de56] | May 19 20:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel's Perf Now Supports Zstd-Compressed Trace Recording http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124034 [https://pleroma.site/objects/395805e7-3237-48d3-8023-05bf4662c679] | May 19 20:39 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS in Telco http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124035 [https://pleroma.site/objects/637d9c42-efc0-469a-b140-1ed3525b732d] | May 19 20:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google: TensorFlow, Open Hardware and More on Collaboration http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124036 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6d5221e1-c2f0-468f-9ddc-bb017092b2d4] | May 19 20:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124037 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92a06179-57ef-456b-a1e9-efc45016e81b] | May 19 20:57 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: OpenStack, Open Source Day (OSD), and Intel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124038 [https://pleroma.site/objects/174d3d8e-1750-4b64-aaaa-af1e4c1e0341] | May 19 21:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS in Education and Sharing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124039 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7434134e-6127-413b-a33d-17e3348a332d] | May 19 21:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Databases: NoSQL, EnterpriseDB and RavenDB http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124040 [https://pleroma.site/objects/124780d9-bddb-4bfb-9479-c5d6654d0e37] | May 19 21:09 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/124041 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2227cbf0-13fa-4766-990d-f868c52cf94b] | May 19 21:13 | |
| oiaohm | https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SP0NB here we go with kind of expected mess. | May 19 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.reuters.com | Exclusive: Google suspends some business with Huawei after Trump blacklist - source | Article [AMP] | Reuters | May 19 22:05 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19042345 | May 19 23:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 19 23:27 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19041651 | May 19 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 19 23:29 | |
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