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XRevan86oiaohm: I forgot about VarnishMar 25 00:58
XRevan86oiaohm: My point is that a single connection is very heavy on Apache httpdMar 25 01:01
XRevan86So a DoS is easier to perform by a degreeMar 25 01:02
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schestowitz[17:45] <XRevan86> schestowitz: StarOffice once again? :)Mar 25 04:22
schestowitzThat's the example, yes...Mar 25 04:22
schestowitz[21:23] <MinceR> https://ircz.de/p/1903047Mar 25 04:26
schestowitzLOL WTHMar 25 04:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Some Additional Chrome vs. Firefox Benchmarks With WebRender, 67 Beta / 68 Alpha http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122079 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c8998538-3979-409f-a98f-b55f8db5bb31]Mar 25 04:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Video/Audio: Manjaro 18.0.4 KDE, Linux Action News, Linux Gaming News Punch and GNU World Order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122085 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a3d68234-2ea2-4708-ae1e-e06779823be3]Mar 25 05:44
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*DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: 55790107_2266757340055664_2769592102999293952_n.jpg (89KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/jjSvtsufgyXXNZqDXUBHkTsy >Mar 25 06:25
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XRevan86https://docs.modernxmpp.org/Mar 25 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.modernxmpp.org | Modern XMPPMar 25 07:53
MinceRdoes it solve the issue that if your server goes away, you can wipe your ass with your JID?Mar 25 08:03
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XRevan86MinceR: No, still no routing one's identity through Facebook.Mar 25 08:32
MinceRi'd rather route my identity through a DHTMar 25 08:33
MinceRbut to each his own, i guessMar 25 08:33
XRevan86MinceR: Ah, GNU JamiMar 25 08:33
MinceRew, RingMar 25 08:34
MinceRdoes its build system still insist on having root so it can install package repositories and packages on its own?Mar 25 08:34
XRevan86MinceR: I'm surprised to find autotools there.Mar 25 08:36
MinceReven irc works fine without facebookMar 25 08:37
XRevan86MinceR: Individual unclustered IRC servers go down all the timeMar 25 08:37
MinceRyet the networks remainMar 25 08:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: IBM, LAMP and Kubernetes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122091 [https://pleroma.site/objects/18cb0c28-6934-4955-8380-54fb5d60ef35]Mar 25 08:44
XRevan86MinceR: But they also have central authority.Mar 25 09:11
MinceRbut those central authorities don't get all of the workloadMar 25 09:12
MinceRand the servers that do get most of the workload can be run by others, in other locationsMar 25 09:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Reducing sysadmin toil with Kubernetes controllers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122093 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d91bf278-2dde-4452-9020-18396b6b002a]Mar 25 09:35
XRevan86MinceR: True, but XMPP isn't exactly heavy.Mar 25 09:35
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XRevan86MinceR: The thing is that the bus factor is almost the same for XMPP and IRC.Mar 25 09:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Overland, Lutris, Dead Cells and Fossilize http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122096 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f574377c-1b5f-4369-b02f-09769788f439]Mar 25 10:55
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oiaohmhttps://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pan9wn/hackers-hijacked-asus-software-updates-to-install-backdoors-on-thousands-of-computers  HmmMar 25 14:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Hackers Hijacked ASUS Software Updates to Install Backdoors on Thousands of Computers - MotherboardMar 25 14:54
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MinceRXRevan86: yet somehow the irc networks i've registered a nick on are almost never down while the xmpp servers i've used always had lots of downtimeMar 25 15:36
XRevan86MinceR: I suspect a factor of luck :)Mar 25 15:39
MinceRyeah, rightMar 25 15:39
XRevan86MinceR: I have two active accounts, self-hosted and an additional on https://jabber.at/, both work satisfactory.Mar 25 15:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jabber.at - Free Jabber/XMPP serverMar 25 15:40
XRevan86for yearsMar 25 15:40
schestowitzoiaohm: seems fittingMar 25 16:30
schestowitzthanks for the linkMar 25 16:30
schestowitzaddedMar 25 16:30
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schestowitzoddMar 25 16:56
schestowitzpleroma downMar 25 16:56
schestowitzkaniini downMar 25 16:56
schestowitzviera downMar 25 16:56
schestowitzall at the same timeMar 25 16:56
schestowitzXRevan86: any guesses?Mar 25 16:56
schestowitzI cannot even ask kMar 25 16:57
XRevan86schestowitz: His last notice cached by loadaverage.org is from 8 hours ago.Mar 25 17:00
XRevan86schestowitz: It seems everything he hosts is down.Mar 25 17:03
XRevan86Including his test instance, his XMPP server…Mar 25 17:04
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm sure it's a force majeure.Mar 25 17:07
schestowitzdoes he self-host the site?Mar 25 17:10
schestowitzI might want to check what the weather in Tulsa is likeMar 25 17:10
schestowitzdidn't know he had XMPP eitherMar 25 17:15
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/4553433Mar 25 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Tulsa - BBC WeatherMar 25 17:16
schestowitzvery finw weather in his hometownMar 25 17:16
schestowitzeven if everything shares the same rack/hypervisor, why would he be offline in IRC?Mar 25 17:16
schestowitzit had now been nearly an hour, XRevan86Mar 25 17:17
schestowitzOK, I will not attempt to post thereMar 25 17:34
schestowitzone hour lapsedMar 25 17:34
schestowitzI will resume from present, not catch up, when it's back onlineMar 25 17:34
XRevan86schestowitz: You mean, whether it's in his home or in a datacentre?Mar 25 17:40
XRevan86He did mention it, but I cannot remember which is it.Mar 25 17:41
*XRevan86 looked up the IP address – it's RACK911Mar 25 17:43
XRevan86schestowitz: The servers aren't under his bed :)Mar 25 17:44
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XRevan86schestowitz: ^Mar 25 17:44
schestowitzkaniini: wb :-)Mar 25 17:45
schestowitzWe even checked the weather hereMar 25 17:45
schestowitz[17:15] <schestowitz> https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/4553433Mar 25 17:45
kaniinisorry about that, for some reason the POWER9 machine kpanicedMar 25 17:46
schestowitzah, rare these daysMar 25 17:46
schestowitzif viera can be brought back up, I'll pass the missing things from my text file :-)Mar 25 17:47
XRevan86When I got root on loadaverage.org, the first thing I did was get a kernel panic %).Mar 25 17:48
kaniiniits already coming back :)Mar 25 17:48
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schestowitzcheers mateMar 25 17:48
schestowitzI'm addcited to pleoma, I guessMar 25 17:48
kaniinii'm going to fix monitoring so it actually blows up my phone againMar 25 17:48
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kaniinii turned off monitoring when i had issues with the original P9 machineMar 25 17:48
schestowitzFor tuxmachinea and etchrights we have alerts here and in FinlandMar 25 17:49
kaniinibecause, it was crashing like every 5 minutes lolMar 25 17:49
schestowitzso if one of us is asleep, the other can and does rebootMar 25 17:49
schestowitzI can help you with alerting if you need a spare watchersMar 25 17:49
kaniiniapparently,Mar 25 17:53
kaniiniapple had some huge event today to announce a credit cardMar 25 17:54
kaniiniwhat the fuck ?Mar 25 17:54
schestowitzicard?Mar 25 17:54
kaniinihttps://www.thestreet.com/investing/apple-services-launch-event-14905929Mar 25 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Announces News Subscription Service, Apple Credit Card - TheStreetMar 25 17:54
kaniiniandMar 25 17:55
kaniinithe card issuer is Goldman SachsMar 25 17:55
kaniinione of the most crooked banks on the planetMar 25 17:55
XRevan86Does it pick services to pay for on its own?Mar 25 17:55
kaniinischestowitz: the IPMI has a watchdog, i just need to figure out how to set it up i thinkMar 25 17:56
schestowitzmaybe they can call ti 'i' and 'smart', cultists will amass in queuesMar 25 17:59
schestowitzicard already means something elseMar 25 18:00
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Goldman_SachsMar 25 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Goldman Sachs - TechrightsMar 25 18:00
kaniinii think my server failed because it could not handle the stupidity of people discussing this announcementMar 25 18:03
XRevan86kaniini: PowerPC felt the betrayal.Mar 25 18:05
schestowitzApple used to do POWERMar 25 18:13
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Tests Of The QNINE M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure To USB-C Adapterhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122101 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ae2ddd95-c1d1-4ecb-9419-9c7de9e8bec2]Mar 25 18:38
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030341Mar 25 18:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 25 18:48
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MinceRhttps://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aD185mN_460svvp9.webmMar 25 18:51
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schestowitz"Since Microsoft joined all of this love for Linux, I was also wondering how come no other media, linux dedicated channels ect.. talked about this very subject. Microsoft is infiltrating Linux to have it's way with it. Linux Foundation is now off my books of being an advocate for Linux."Mar 25 19:40
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36597/Mar 25 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Shaking my head.: Jim Zemlin’s Linux Foundation Still Does Not Care About Linux DesktopsMar 25 19:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tiny, octa-core Arm module targets AI on the edge http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122108 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79142e30-0698-4612-8fc9-ce069b7a61d6]Mar 25 19:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What to expect from Ubuntu 19.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122109 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e9dd9b0c-4ec8-4806-b148-8b1c24ccaefa]Mar 25 19:54
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DaemonFC[m]ACPI: [Firmware Bug]: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignoredMar 25 21:21
DaemonFC[m]How is this still an issue in uEFI?Mar 25 21:22
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: mostly because ACPI is a real messMar 25 21:36
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: linux normally defaults to using what ever is for windows.Mar 25 21:36
oiaohmEven particular windows machines you are installing makers drivers to ignore the bios/uefi provided uEFIMar 25 21:37
oiaohmOpps ACPI for the last uEFIMar 25 21:37
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19030320Mar 25 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 25 21:49
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19032467Mar 25 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 25 22:41
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190321/14160841847/sheriff-decides-best-way-to-prep-teachers-school-shootings-is-to-frighten-injure-them.shtmlMar 26 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sheriff Decides The Best Way To Prep Teachers For School Shootings Is To Frighten And Injure Them | TechdirtMar 26 02:32
schestowitzindianaMar 26 02:32
schestowitzI saw sevral reports about itMar 26 02:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora and Red Hat: SuperIO, Microsoft Mono, Fedora Modularity, NeuroFedora, OpenShift and 'Data Economy' (Spying) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122121 [https://pleroma.site/objects/caca9af7-b5b9-438c-8d73-363663df78c1]Mar 26 03:51
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oiaohmschestowitz: its called military grade desensitisation that shotting of the teachers with less than fatal rounds.   Its better to get them to panic and freeze up in a drill then have that happen in a real event.Mar 26 03:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define “Support” http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/584905cf-7b22-4ead-8367-5d3566a51e3f]Mar 26 09:44
schubisugood morning everyoneMar 26 09:46
schestowitzhiMar 26 09:52
XRevan86good morningMar 26 09:53
schubisuI just read the article on techrights about linux desktop (http://techrights.org/2019/03/24/linux-desktop-lf/). I'm wondering if there is anything like a global linux community, as opposed to local LUGs. That linux foundation is kind of spuriousMar 26 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin’s Linux Foundation Still Does Not Care About Linux Desktops | TechrightsMar 26 09:54
schestowitzhiMar 26 09:58
schestowitzok, so...Mar 26 09:58
schestowitzI just published another partMar 26 09:58
schestowitzmoments agoMar 26 09:58
schestowitzI think companies can directly help projects like DebianMar 26 09:59
schestowitzinstead of giving it to LF to pay a million bucks a year to "execs"Mar 26 09:59
schestowitzhttps://www.gofundme.com/help-a-hero-find-his-voiceMar 26 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gofundme.com | Fundraiser for Diane Franklin by Ken Starks : Help a hero find his voiceMar 26 09:59
schestowitzAnother optionMar 26 09:59
schubisuthe board members of the linux foundation consist of people from google,Mar 26 10:00
schubisufacebook, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle and many more names I strongly dislike.Mar 26 10:00
schubisusorry for separate lines. Is that normal for a foundation like that?Mar 26 10:00
schestowitznot sureMar 26 10:01
schestowitzbut these are not FOSS firmsMar 26 10:01
schestowitzif you want to write a guest post, please do soMar 26 10:01
schubisunope ;)Mar 26 10:01
schestowitzeven if shortMar 26 10:01
schestowitzbased on the aboveMar 26 10:01
schubisuschestowitz: thanks, I just try to get an overview first. I'm a long time linux user wondering why the linux desktop is not moving forwards, I never read about this beforeMar 26 10:02
schestowitzfair question, I came from the same placeMar 26 10:07
schestowitzseems like "adding Netflix" is the priority nowMar 26 10:07
schestowitz(DRM)Mar 26 10:07
schubisuhm, just found this one https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801/201723189349305852/IRS990 seems to be an attractive job, leading a non-profit. Compensations of page 8 :(Mar 26 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Nonprofit Explorer - THE LINUX FOUNDATION - Form 990 - ProPublicaMar 26 10:11
schestowitzyeahMar 26 10:12
schestowitzdid you find it through techrights?Mar 26 10:13
schubisuno, was pointed to form 990 in another IRC channelMar 26 10:13
schubisuactually the same person that pointed me to techrights ;)Mar 26 10:14
schestowitzI promoted this link for a whileMar 26 10:15
schestowitzas did Bryan Lunduke IIRCMar 26 10:15
schestowitznot enough people have paid attention to how the salaries exploded Mar 26 10:15
schestowitzthe IRS has nothing since 2016Mar 26 10:15
schestowitzSo I assume about 100ml or more in turnoverMar 26 10:16
schubisuhehe interestingMar 26 10:16
schestowitzmaybe double the salaries, accordinglyMar 26 10:16
schestowitzbut that's not what mattersMar 26 10:16
schestowitzit's how they use that money which mattersMar 26 10:16
schestowitzLF staff tried to silence me, it seems...Mar 26 10:16
schubisuschestowitz: thanks for reporting on that, I will browse for the whole story to get an understanding of the impactMar 26 10:17
schestowitzsee the latest:Mar 26 10:18
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/Mar 26 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define “Support” | TechrightsMar 26 10:18
schestowitzhalf an hour oldMar 26 10:18
schestowitzI am working on another at the momentMar 26 10:18
schubisuschestowitz: quite a publishing frequency ;) will readMar 26 10:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1110485488127889408Mar 26 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz Last hours of a free internet. Let's move our servers to Switzerland.Mar 26 10:23
schestowitzbig news to keep me busy today in EU ParlMar 26 10:24
schestowitzmy next post may very very longMar 26 10:25
schestowitzwill quote you on a couple of things if that's OKMar 26 10:25
schubisuschestowitz: sure if that's any help :)Mar 26 10:26
schubisuI will have to be careful not to injure my head from constant shakingMar 26 10:26
schestowitzhmmmMar 26 10:30
schestowitzto me this is not new reallyMar 26 10:30
schestowitzbut I realise many people don't want these things closely for a number of yearsMar 26 10:30
schestowitzit didn't happen overnightMar 26 10:30
schestowitz" A reader has just told us that "the board members of the Linux Foundation consist of people from Google, Facebook, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle and many more names I strongly dislike. Is that normal for a foundation like that? I'm a longtime Linux user wondering why the Linux desktop is not moving forwards, I never read about this before...""Mar 26 10:30
schestowitzIs that OK?Mar 26 10:30
schubisuschestowitz: sureMar 26 10:32
schestowitzI get people sending me thingsMar 26 10:34
schestowitztoday:Mar 26 10:34
schestowitz"Mar 26 10:34
schestowitzHere is the draft. Mar 26 10:34
schestowitzEdit whatever. Hope odt is fine. If not, let me know.Mar 26 10:34
schestowitz"Mar 26 10:34
schestowitzthat's the guest posyMar 26 10:36
schestowitzsent as ODFMar 26 10:36
schestowitz"Mar 26 10:37
schestowitzLinux foundation supportMar 26 10:37
schestowitzOK, I got the messages from earlier on as well (3 of them)Mar 26 10:37
schestowitz3 options now:Mar 26 10:37
schestowitz1) I integrate what you told me to make an articleMar 26 10:37
schestowitz2) You write an article to publish as guest postMar 26 10:37
schestowitz3) Research furtherMar 26 10:37
schestowitz> Thank you for being open to further research. I am getting interesting responses. One person literally suggested I ask the LF. Maybe... I don't think it is really necessary... what do you think?Mar 26 10:37
schestowitz> I will go through the other responses and write something up.So, I'm still on 3 and on to 2 soon.Mar 26 10:38
schestowitz"Mar 26 10:38
schestowitz"I reached out to another 10 organizations the Linux Foundation "supports"," the reader said.Mar 26 10:42
schestowitz"I'll report back with some results hopefully."Mar 26 10:42
schestowitz"One organization the Linux Foundation "supports" totally lied (I believe based on content) -- stating it had been doing Raspberry Pi stuff since 2007.Mar 26 10:42
schestowitz...the Pi came out in 2012."Mar 26 10:42
schestowitzEven without confirmation from the others - here is one really good example: Kids on ComputersMar 26 10:42
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schestowitz"The Linux Foundation was intended to pay Linus [Torvalds] and maintain standards."Mar 26 10:48
schestowitzhi kushalMar 26 10:49
schestowitz"I have said, the Contribution Covenant is a boil on the ass of our community - ... a little graphic I know"Mar 26 11:03
schestowitzYou know, other than long emails xxx about my gripes, I haven't written much in years. Mar 26 11:04
schestowitzI really haven't wanted or needed to until now. Mar 26 11:04
schestowitzI'm not actually interested in writing the post regarding the LF and their total disregard for the real needs of the orgs they supposedly support.Mar 26 11:04
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schubisuschestowitz: I understand, it's not about accusing and taking the LF to pieces, but it's a nuisance that needs to be reported on and then corrected (ideally)Mar 26 11:14
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schestowitzschubisu: yeahMar 26 11:28
schestowitzalmost doneMar 26 11:28
schestowitzjust proofreading nowMar 26 11:28
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schestowitzschubisu: http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/the-linux-foundation-is-not-about-linux/Mar 26 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation is Not About Linux | TechrightsMar 26 11:55
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kushalschestowitz, hello Mar 26 12:31
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schestowitzhi kushalMar 26 13:13
schestowitzare you kushal the de?Mar 26 13:13
schestowitzdev?Mar 26 13:13
kushalschestowitz, Yes, https://kushaldas.in :)Mar 26 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Kushal DasMar 26 13:20
kushalThough I missed the kushal.dev domain Mar 26 13:21
XRevan86> server: nginx/1.14.2Mar 26 13:22
XRevan86kushal: Confident enough not to "server_tokens off;"? :)Mar 26 13:23
schestowitzahaMar 26 13:24
schestowitznice to speak at lastMar 26 13:24
kushalXRevan86, no, just that I never knew that configuration :)Mar 26 13:24
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XRevan86kushal: I've been told about it in a similiar manner ;)Mar 26 13:25
kushalXRevan86, can you please check again? :)Mar 26 13:26
XRevan86> server: nginxMar 26 13:27
kushalXRevan86, are you checking just the header or ?Mar 26 13:27
XRevan86kushal: Just the header.Mar 26 13:28
kushalschestowitz, yes, I missed the fact that this channel exists. Mar 26 13:28
kushalschestowitz, but, better late than never (in this case). Mar 26 13:28
XRevan86kushal: https://kushaldas.in/bad_page.404 also delivers.Mar 26 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://kushaldas.in/bad_page.404 )Mar 26 13:28
schestowitzkushal: cool!Mar 26 13:28
schestowitzI love your blogMar 26 13:28
kushalXRevan86, yup, those pages are still missing. Mar 26 13:29
kushalschestowitz, ah, thanks. Mar 26 13:29
kushalschestowitz, Can you please tell me how can I improve? The posts, actual details or anything else?Mar 26 13:30
XRevan86kushal: Which? I've just opened a random missing URL to force the =404 page out in case it's the nginx's default oneMar 26 13:30
kushalXRevan86, yes, I was supposed to move it to my personal 404 pagesMar 26 13:30
XRevan86With server_tokens on it would've shown me "nginx/1.14.2"Mar 26 13:30
XRevan86Looking into the headers is more reliable of course.Mar 26 13:31
kushalYup. Mar 26 13:31
XRevan86Through the browser or "curl -I 'https://kushaldas.in/'"Mar 26 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kushaldas.in | Kushal DasMar 26 13:31
kushalXRevan86, though as this is a static website, nginx can be the issue in my mind. Mar 26 13:33
kushalXRevan86, I was more worried about https://search.kushaldas.in Mar 26 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-search.kushaldas.in | Search Kushal's mindMar 26 13:33
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XRevan86kushal: The issue?Mar 26 13:38
kushalXRevan86, this is written by me, means bigger chance of having a actual security issue :)Mar 26 13:39
XRevan86kushal: I see https://search.kushaldas.in/ has a "legacy" version of nginx.Mar 26 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-search.kushaldas.in | Search Kushal's mindMar 26 13:39
kushalyesMar 26 13:40
XRevan86kushal: Now that I shouldn't've seen :)Mar 26 13:41
kushalXRevan86, are there known exploits?Mar 26 13:42
XRevan86kushal: Not to my knowledge, but if I were a exploiter, I'd find this as a good sign.Mar 26 13:43
kushalyeah, but, also this is a CentOS box.Mar 26 13:43
kushalmeans it should have the patches backported. Mar 26 13:47
kushalThat is the hope.Mar 26 13:48
XRevan86kushal: touchéMar 26 13:55
XRevan86kushal: Does CentOS have nginx in the official repos these days?Mar 26 13:56
XRevan86I remember it used to be in EPELMar 26 13:56
kushalit is in EPEL. Mar 26 13:56
XRevan86I wonder what stops them from picking the latest release. It's not like it has new dependencies or something.Mar 26 13:57
kushalyes, the dependency buildchain will be long.Mar 26 13:58
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XRevan86At a first glance, dependencies haven't changed a bit.Mar 26 14:04
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XRevan86kushal: I think they just forgot to.Mar 26 14:17
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*XRevan86 looks at https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/nginx.git/log/?h=epel7Mar 26 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-src.fedoraproject.org | rpms/nginx.git - nginxMar 26 14:20
schestowitz[13:30] <kushal> schestowitz, Can you please tell me how can I improve? The posts, actual details or anything else?Mar 26 14:24
schestowitzjust more of themMar 26 14:24
kushalThat became a problem from last year. Mar 26 14:24
schestowitzno motivation?Mar 26 14:24
kushalAs I am spending most of my time reading and learning. Mar 26 14:24
kushalno noMar 26 14:25
XRevan86kushal: Why did you pick RSS 2.0 for the webfeed, by the way?Mar 26 14:25
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kushalWorking on project with all nice 3 letter or 4 letter agencies as opponents made me to upgrade my skillset.  Mar 26 14:25
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XRevan86I'm always surprised to see actual RSS 1.0/2.0 used.Mar 26 14:25
kushalXRevan86, that was the golang module I just used :)Mar 26 14:26
XRevan86kushal: So there's a go module out there that implements RSS 2.0?Mar 26 14:26
kushalschestowitz, I know very less about too many things, so spending a lot of time to learn and improve myself. Mar 26 14:26
XRevan86horrific %)Mar 26 14:26
kushalyes, waitMar 26 14:26
kushalXRevan86, https://github.com/gorilla/feeds Mar 26 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - gorilla/feeds: golang rss/atom generator libraryMar 26 14:27
XRevan86> AtomMar 26 14:28
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XRevan86kushal: Well there you have it, it has AtomMar 26 14:28
kushalXRevan86, https://github.com/kushaldas/shonku this is the project I use for my blog. Mar 26 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - kushaldas/shonku: We remember his diary, a static blogging tool.Mar 26 14:28
kushalXRevan86, it does, and I think I was too lazy to export that :)Mar 26 14:29
XRevan86kushal: Atom is the W3C standardised version of RSS feeding, every feed reader on the planet supports it ;)Mar 26 14:30
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XRevan86So it can be used *instead* of RSS 2.0Mar 26 14:30
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kushalhehe, i will fix thisMar 26 14:31
XRevan86kushal: I haven't heard of Shonku, looks very simpleMar 26 14:32
XRevan86… and it also looks deadMar 26 14:32
schestowitzI was just thinking...Mar 26 14:34
schestowitz(tell me if I'm off my rocker)Mar 26 14:34
schestowitzwhy not RSS 3?Mar 26 14:34
schestowitz4?Mar 26 14:34
schestowitzDid they stop developing the stuff when GAFAM decided it doesn't help sell ads?Mar 26 14:34
schestowitzsurely we could further extend these specsMar 26 14:34
schestowitzstill stuck with xml/atom and rss2.xMar 26 14:35
XRevan86schestowitz: Atom is under development, it's not deadMar 26 14:37
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XRevan86schestowitz: So not exactly stuck :)Mar 26 14:40
kushalXRevan86, dead?Mar 26 14:41
kushalXRevan86, I am using from 2013 happily. Mar 26 14:41
XRevan86schestowitz: The literal RSS' versioning is more messed up than it looks, RSS 1.0 and RSS 2.0 are developed by different people in parallel.Mar 26 14:42
kushalThe best solution for my blogging needs.Mar 26 14:42
XRevan86kushal: The last commit is from 2017Mar 26 14:42
kushalXRevan86, oh, I thought it should be in 2013. Mar 26 14:42
kushalheheMar 26 14:42
kushalIt does not need any feeatures. Mar 26 14:42
kushal* features Mar 26 14:42
kushalit just worksMar 26 14:42
kushalI wanted to have a system where I can focus on writing rather than the tooling.Mar 26 14:43
XRevan86kushal: It reminds me a lot of Hugo, but I suppose it's because both are inspired by Nikola.Mar 26 14:43
kushalYesMar 26 14:44
kushalXRevan86, I started writing this to move out of Nikola (as I was having trouble with updates breaking my templates). Mar 26 14:44
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XRevan86kushal: Hugo doesn't have that problem :)Mar 26 14:45
kushalYeah, but, I heard about hugo after I already started using this. Mar 26 14:46
kushalI was supposed to have a chat with spf13 for this but, that never happened. Both became busyMar 26 14:46
XRevan86kushal: 2013, that figures, yeaMar 26 14:46
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XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_web_syndication_technology#Initial_adoption_of_RSS_(2000%E2%80%932003)Mar 26 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | History of web syndication technology - WikipediaMar 26 14:49
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XRevan86Notice that initial RSS 1.1 was released 3 years after initial RSS 2.0Mar 26 14:51
kushalah, I should read that page about the history part.Mar 26 14:52
XRevan86The worst part in all this is that "RSS is dead" is technically true, but when I see this statement it's more often a political statement "webfeeds are dead".Mar 26 14:56
kushalYupMar 26 14:57
kushalThat is always there. Mar 26 14:57
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schestowitzhardly deadMar 26 15:06
schestowitzjust not advertisedMar 26 15:06
schestowitzand firefox had it removed from the core by mozillaMar 26 15:06
schestowitzso now people see junk when clicking on rss buttons unless they get extensions, I guess, or maybe for the time being only "live bookmarks" are deprecateedMar 26 15:07
schestowitzthey said they used "telemetry" to check their usageMar 26 15:07
XRevan86schestowitz: Not only "live bookmarks", to see previews of Atom/RSS links one needs https://github.com/aureliendavid/rsspreviewMar 26 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - aureliendavid/rsspreview: WebExtension to preview RSS feeds in the browserMar 26 15:07
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XRevan86schestowitz: And the webfeed discovery icon has been gone for a lot longer than that…Mar 26 15:11
XRevan86(this add-on supports that too)Mar 26 15:11
XRevan86> but when I see this statement it's more often a political statement "webfeeds are dead".Mar 26 15:16
XRevan86schestowitz: I, of course, don't agree. From my observation, *a lot* of people use them.Mar 26 15:16
XRevan86To me it's the most convinient way to autofetch information.Mar 26 15:17
XRevan86* convenientMar 26 15:17
XRevan86schestowitz: But I've got to emphasise that the RSS 1.0/2.0 are deprecated standards, and they should be.Mar 26 15:19
XRevan86* RSS 1.x/2.0Mar 26 15:19
XRevan86The only reason new RSS 2.0 feeds keep popping up is name confusion apparently.Mar 26 15:21
XRevan86From my opinion, "RSS feed" is perfectly fine from a user perspective, but developers should know better ;)Mar 26 15:22
XRevan86Like <a href="/feed.atom">RSS Feed</a>Mar 26 15:23
schestowitzFewer people seem to use them over timeMar 26 15:27
schestowitznow it seems like rss for a site became an appMar 26 15:27
schestowitzand I just tried to keep up with this nonsenseMar 26 15:28
XRevan86schestowitz: My perspective may be skewed by the FediverseMar 26 15:31
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XRevan86It only makes sense people who are into decentralised networks dig RSS feeds :).Mar 26 15:32
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't think your "app" has been a success. That apk generator website doesn't produce a good quality product.Mar 26 15:34
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XRevan86schestowitz: The idea isn't bad, but an Android developer is unavoidable.Mar 26 15:38
kushalI love the feedsMar 26 15:45
XRevan86Feeds are the worst, please accept our tracking policy and cookies, we respect your privacyMar 26 16:00
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schestowitz[15:34] <XRevan86> schestowitz: I don't think your "app" has been a success. That apk generator website doesn't produce a good quality product.Mar 26 16:24
schestowitzyeah, I knowMar 26 16:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rookieuserIm/status/1110582198455934977Mar 26 17:08
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/y1IUh9g.gifvMar 26 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | ImgurMar 26 21:40
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/03/24/linux-desktop-lf/#commentsMar 27 05:31
schestowitz"This was inevitable once Microsoft acquired The Linux Foundation in 2016."Mar 27 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin’s Linux Foundation Still Does Not Care About Linux Desktops | TechrightsMar 27 05:31
schestowitz> Here's today's batch.  WTF is wrong with FSFe?  The only face-saving wayMar 27 07:14
schestowitz> out of yesterday's statement would be in the form of multipleMar 27 07:14
schestowitz> resignations / firings.Mar 27 07:14
schestowitzyeah, they already eat shit for what they wrote.Mar 27 07:14
schestowitzAlso, they never helped us against UPC, swpats etc.Mar 27 07:14
schestowitzSuspicious.Mar 27 07:14
MinceRlink?Mar 27 07:21
schestowitznot offhandMar 27 07:30
schestowitzI saw it yesterdayMar 27 07:30
schestowitzpeople are very angry over this fsfe stanceMar 27 07:30
MinceRmaybe they too got corrupted by red hatMar 27 07:34
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/588916.jpgMar 27 08:08
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/588717.jpgMar 27 08:13
schestowitzI'm not into deadpoolMar 27 08:31
MinceRyour lossMar 27 08:31
schestowitzdid not even try watching itMar 27 08:32
schestowitzthe trailers not appealing enoughMar 27 08:32
MinceRthe comics are good tooMar 27 08:34
schestowitzwhat came first?Mar 27 08:34
schestowitzI assume the comicsMar 27 08:35
MinceRthe comicsMar 27 08:35
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schestowitzI don't like the concept/characterMar 27 09:10
schestowitzbased on the trailersMar 27 09:10
schestowitzgoryMar 27 09:10
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schestowitz[13:42] <MinceR> gore is goodMar 27 17:14
schestowitz[13:42] <MinceR> though it isn't all deadpool is aboutMar 27 17:14
schestowitzgore, AL :)Mar 27 17:14
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MinceR:>Mar 27 17:15
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schestowitzit fell offlineMar 27 17:16
schestowitzhence some pastingMar 27 17:16
schestowitzI think China banned deadpool for goreMar 27 17:16
schestowitzthat's the little I know about the filmMar 27 17:17
schestowitzhaving read censorship news closely at the timeMar 27 17:17
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MinceRhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/67/24/23672439a22b074c058bff2394526bfe.jpgMar 27 17:29
MinceRhttps://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/7/70/Deadpool-Fourth-Wall.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181020162628Mar 27 17:29
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schestowitzGore VidalMar 27 17:52
MinceRGorreMar 27 18:14
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gde33DaemonFC[m]: does Nautilus 3.26 open the giant folders?Mar 27 19:29
gde33I kinda instantly installed Thunar on buntu 18Mar 27 19:30
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DaemonFC[m]Apparently, iPhone sales plummeted 12% in the last quarter.Mar 27 19:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: goodMar 27 19:59
schestowitzalso for Android/LinuxMar 27 19:59
schestowitzgde33: lightterMar 27 20:00
schestowitzLinusLinux recently did a detailed comparison of all the major file managersMar 27 20:00
schestowitzLinuxLinks I meanMar 27 20:00
MinceRi gave up on the major file managers alreadyMar 27 20:02
MinceRmainly because of their dependency on udisks, which is cancerMar 27 20:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1110998489339740161Mar 27 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz They will soon promote AI filters under the recommandation of the FSFE :-)Mar 27 20:25
schestowitzSerious question, when did the FSFE last spoke about #swpats problems? Another one is, did it ever say anything at all about UPC?Mar 27 20:26
oiaohmhttps://www.linuxlinks.com/filemanagers/  Interesting right 3 out of the top 6 here are terminal filemanagers.Mar 27 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-14 Best Free Linux File Managers - LinuxLinksMar 27 20:27
oiaohmschestowitz: https://fsfe.org/campaigns/swpat/swpat.en.html last documented actions here 2013.Mar 27 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | FSFE - Software Patents in EuropeMar 27 20:30
MinceRoh, that list is better than i expectedMar 27 20:31
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oiaohmMinceR: all the top 6 on that list will in fact function with udisk missing worst just loss the means to mount media.Mar 27 20:39
MinceRgoodMar 27 20:42
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oiaohmMinceR: udisks is better than each file manager writing their own unique service to gain prillage to mount discs.Mar 27 20:46
MinceRit would be, if it worked correctlyMar 27 20:47
MinceRlike if it didn't crash all the time or at least its manpage didn't claim it would just get started automatically when it won'tMar 27 20:47
MinceRbtw, there are alternatives to itMar 27 20:47
oiaohmIt works more correctly than the history attempts of individual file managers.Mar 27 20:47
schestowitzoiaohm: thanks for the findMar 27 20:47
schestowitzit helps prove my pointMar 27 20:48
schestowitzif that's the last and latestMar 27 20:48
MinceRoiaohm: yeah, we get it, all poetteringware is the best ever, even if it's atrociousMar 27 20:48
MinceRno, i'm not buying anything, go awayMar 27 20:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1111004178548183042Mar 27 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz I guess one of the reasons FFII was formed was the inactivity on their side. When I told them the UPC… https://t.co/SUbfinwbvYMar 27 20:48
schestowitz"I guess one of the reasons FFII was formed was the inactivity on their side. When I told them the UPC was the next step, they barely understood what I was talking about, saying it was not on their radar."Mar 27 20:48
schestowitzlast documented actions in 2013 according to oiaohm  https://fsfe.org/campaigns/swpat/swpat.en.html Mar 27 20:49
oiaohmMinceR:what alterantives to udisks are you think of.    Udisks has nothing todo with poettering ever. https://github.com/storaged-project/udisks/graphs/contributorsMar 27 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contributors to storaged-project/udisks · GitHubMar 27 20:50
XRevan86Probably https://ignorantguru.github.io/udevil/Mar 27 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ignorantguru.github.io | udevil HomepageMar 27 20:51
MinceRyeah, udevil is one of themMar 27 20:51
MinceRpmount is anotherMar 27 20:51
MinceRhttps://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/Mar 27 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ignorantguru.github.io | SpaceFM HomepageMar 27 20:51
MinceRspacefm supports bothMar 27 20:51
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oiaohmMinceR: pmount was a debian project the debian maintainer has been missing only for the past 4 years so far.   So basically dead.Mar 27 21:00
oiaohmudevil in fact requires more kernel features than using udisks.Mar 27 21:00
oiaohmThere is not many options left.   udisks and storaged merged in 2017.Mar 27 21:01
MinceRi wouldn't mind udisks using more kernel features if it meant it didn't crash all the timeMar 27 21:01
MinceRthough it would probably be enough to just document it properlyMar 27 21:01
MinceR"if it falls over (like it usually does), start it as root via /usr/libexec/udisks-daemon" or whateverMar 27 21:02
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oiaohmudisks does in fact have Linux and freebsd kernel developers in the 80 long contributor list.Mar 27 21:02
MinceRshame on themMar 27 21:03
MinceRthat said, freebsd is a perfectly useless project anywayMar 27 21:03
oiaohmIts not a pottering mess Mar 27 21:03
oiaohmIts a hearding cats mess.Mar 27 21:03
oiaohmIn some ways is worse.Mar 27 21:03
MinceRriiiiightMar 27 21:03
MinceRbecause proprietary software works so much betterMar 27 21:03
MinceRlike when vista7 fails to umount my usb flash cardMar 27 21:04
MinceRand then i check it and turns out it was configured to be safely removable without noticeMar 27 21:04
MinceRand it still can't umount the damn thingMar 27 21:04
MinceR(also, i found out that process number 4, very helpfully named "System", was holding files open on it that i couldn't even see)Mar 27 21:05
oiaohmudisks you have Linux, Freebsd, netbsd then all the filemanagers as your cats.Mar 27 21:05
oiaohmEach with a slightly different idea on how stuff should be done lots of the time.Mar 27 21:06
oiaohmMinceR: yes udisks is managed by committee.Mar 27 21:07
oiaohmMinceR: poetteringware basically is only 1 form of particular open source mess.    Udisks is completely different class.Mar 27 21:08
schestowitzgde33: new, today   https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-the-polo-file-manager-and-why-you-should/Mar 27 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install the Polo File Manager--and why you should - TechRepublicMar 27 21:59
schestowitz^ MinceRMar 27 21:59
schestowitzyesterday: https://www.how2shout.com/tools/best-file-managers-linux-alternative-options.htmlMar 27 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | 10 Best file managers for Linux to get an alternative option | H2S MediaMar 27 22:00
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MinceRlolMar 27 22:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1111029543358353409Mar 27 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz "IPCom for a procedure for operating a mobile network" a well known patent troll :-)Mar 27 22:45
schestowitz"Mar 27 22:45
schestowitz"IPCom for a procedure for operating a mobile network" a well known patent troll :-)Mar 27 22:45
schestowitz0 replies 1 retweet 0 likesMar 27 22:45
schestowitz"Mar 27 22:45
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schestowitz[22:04] <MinceR> lolMar 27 23:01
schestowitzthat second articleMar 27 23:01
schestowitzfrom an awful site, I know..Mar 27 23:01
schestowitzzerogue: http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/03/a-loaf-of-bread-walrus-said-is-what-we.html?showComment=1553614393066#c7193911839119660852Mar 27 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | "A loaf of bread", the Walrus said, “is what we chiefly need", but did he remember IP? - The IPKatMar 27 23:03
schestowitzcomment linkMar 27 23:03
schestowitzcan you investigate?Mar 27 23:03
schestowitzoops, zoobab I meantMar 27 23:04
schestowitzzoobab: ^^Mar 27 23:04
schestowitzMinceR: ^^voice?Mar 27 23:14
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gde33schestowitz: polo does indeed look nice. tyMar 28 03:36
gde33oh a paywallMar 28 03:38
gde33*sad trombone*Mar 28 03:39
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oiaohmhttps://www.geekwire.com/2019/microsoft-backing-major-tax-hike-amazon/   boy the reporting on this is bad.Mar 28 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Microsoft is backing a major tax hike on itself … and Amazon – GeekWireMar 28 06:35
oiaohmThe money from this tax is to go into education and Microsoft attempts to be the software choice for education.Mar 28 06:35
oiaohmSo in reality Microsoft will not be tax as much as Amazon.Mar 28 06:36
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schestowitz[06:35] <oiaohm> https://www.geekwire.com/2019/microsoft-backing-major-tax-hike-amazon/   boy the reporting on this is bad.Mar 28 08:03
schestowitzgeekwire is shit and Microsoft-connectedMar 28 08:04
schestowitzthe people who ran techflash came to it IIRCMar 28 08:04
schestowitzand Microsoft had paid themMar 28 08:04
schestowitzso I'm reluctant to even click that turd linkMar 28 08:04
schestowitz[03:39] <gde33> *sad trombone*Mar 28 08:05
schestowitzCBSMar 28 08:05
schestowitzapparently all the spying they do on you isn't enough money for themMar 28 08:05
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XRevan86https://i.postimg.cc/yY2YH22h/ST-DS9-TOS.jpg oh boy…Mar 28 14:44
XRevan86cubexyz: I see ST:TOS had some quality uniforms.Mar 28 14:44
XRevan86https://youtu.be/Xka6IYCpj4E this is just madMar 28 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-They Are Klingons... - YouTubeMar 28 14:59
schestowitzlolMar 28 15:04
schestowitzmaybe she's looking for interstallar sexMar 28 15:04
schestowitz*stellarMar 28 15:04
XRevan86schestowitz: I get the feeling all XXIII century waitresses wear that.Mar 28 15:06
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schestowitz"Mar 28 16:18
schestowitzAlso, I got a post on my twitter from someone (I think it was deb nicholson) denying any affiliation with Linux Foundation. So I was like is this you: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/tag/deb-nicholson/Mar 28 16:18
schestowitzUnfortunately, she won an award at LibrePlanet for "intersection of sjw and technology". I find it interesting - the denial of affiliation at this point...Mar 28 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Deb Nicholson Archives - The Linux FoundationMar 28 16:18
schestowitz"Mar 28 16:18
schestowitzI don't think she is affiliatedMar 28 16:18
schestowitzcertainly not directlyMar 28 16:18
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DaemonFC[m]Fedora plans to drop python2 in 31.Mar 28 16:46
DaemonFC[m]It's kind of troubling because I still run into things that require it.Mar 28 16:46
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Well, it is Fedora after allMar 28 16:47
XRevan86they are almost always the first to remove deprecated stuff from their reposMar 28 16:47
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XRevan86https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/tag/v19.0Mar 28 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release Magisk v19.0 · topjohnwu/Magisk · GitHubMar 28 20:24
MinceRhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19507225Mar 28 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Cisco Fixes RV320/RV325 Vulnerability by Banning “curl” in User-Agent | Hacker NewsMar 28 20:30
XRevan86MinceR: It's not like it's possible to alter the default User Agent string.Mar 28 20:32
MinceRyeahMar 28 20:32
XRevan86at least without Computer Science and Rocket Science degreesMar 28 20:32
MinceRFiasco Systems wins againMar 28 20:32
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oiaohmWoohoo another half ass fix by cisco.Mar 28 20:37
MinceRif you can call it a "fix"Mar 28 20:37
XRevan86if you can call it "half ass"Mar 28 20:38
XRevan86quarter ass maybeMar 28 20:38
MinceRnull assMar 28 20:38
MinceRan ass-pimple no-fixMar 28 20:38
oiaohmIt blocks the script kiddy scripts for a short time.Mar 28 20:39
oiaohmas if lot of script kiddies would be smart enough to fix user agent issue.Mar 28 20:39
oiaohmHalf ass as in it works until someone serousally tried and they have basically done nothing.Mar 28 20:40
MinceRwhoever provides them with scripts areMar 28 20:40
MinceRs/are/is/Mar 28 20:40
oiaohmExactly.Mar 28 20:40
oiaohmIt a fix that works all of a few hours.Mar 28 20:40
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MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/03/28/6092605ed691bfb4.mp4Mar 28 21:39
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MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chind%C5%8DguMar 28 22:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chindōgu - WikipediaMar 28 22:17
MinceRhttps://www.theonion.com/deformed-freak-born-without-penis-1819575921Mar 28 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-storybreak stars');background-repeat:no-repeat;background-position:center}.above-headline-image .video-embed__caption,.above-headline-image figcaption,.editor .editor-inner .video-embed__caption,.editor .editor-inner figcaption,.featured-post__featured-media-caption .video-embed__caption,.featured-post__featured-media-caption figcaption,.post-content .video-embed__caption,.post-content figcaption{position:relative;font-family:" ...Mar 28 22:55
scientesMinceR, yeah that one is goodMar 28 23:14
scientesdidn't even have to click itMar 28 23:14
MinceR:)Mar 28 23:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Beta Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/122232#comment-19942 #ubuntu #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/eea78ebf-e4df-47ec-8e85-ae42125d8526]Mar 29 04:54
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MinceR_https://i.imgur.com/Y8hFO8r.jpgMar 29 09:04
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/pP4ET9SMar 29 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People who believed The Onion - Album on ImgurMar 29 09:24
schubisu:DMar 29 09:35
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MinceRhttps://hackernews.blog/positive-technologies-discovered-undocumented-technology-in-intel-chips/Mar 29 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernews.blog | Positive Technologies discovered undocumented technology in Intel chips – HACKER NEWSMar 29 09:54
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/3/2019: Wayland’s Weston 6.0, Libinput 1.13, New Ubuntu Beta http://techrights.org/2019/03/29/new-ubuntu-beta/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/a4b83649-d994-46b8-b181-4a9e758b300c]Mar 29 11:57
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/wellerstein/status/1074851817333374976Mar 29 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wellerstein: The term "デーモンコア" ("demon core") gets one some... interesting Google Image results. HT @alt_kia -->… https://t.co/pRou53uhmOMar 29 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wellerstein: The term "デーモンコア" ("demon core") gets one some... interesting Google Image results. HT @alt_kia -->… https://t.co/pRou53uhmOMar 29 14:02
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/64dld82.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/zgBNkKr )Mar 29 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I'm adorable, witness me! - Album on ImgurMar 29 14:49
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Hm9um4U.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/hsDZZeq )Mar 29 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Childhood memories - Album on ImgurMar 29 16:29
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/NXilw1CMar 29 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eldritch Cacophony - Album on ImgurMar 29 16:47
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/lithuanian-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-100-million-from-google-facebook/Mar 29 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Lithuanian Pleads Guilty to Stealing $100 Million From Google, FacebookMar 29 17:02
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/4Mpdeb3.pngMar 29 17:10
schestowitzXFaCE: pingMar 29 17:13
schestowitzI have just realised  "Canadian Bill C-11 – Harmful to Free Software"Mar 29 17:13
schestowitzis missingMar 29 17:13
schestowitzmentioned here  "Canadian Bill C-11 – Harmful to Free Software"Mar 29 17:13
schestowitzhttps://diasp.de/posts/246522Mar 29 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diasp.de | #Canadian Bill C-11 – Harmful to Free Software - http://techrights....Mar 29 17:13
schestowitzand in the wiki http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Techrights_CanadaMar 29 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Canada - TechrightsMar 29 17:13
schestowitzdid you remove it at some pointMar 29 17:13
schestowitzjust want to make sure no CMS errorMar 29 17:13
schestowitzIn "Drafts" you still have "The Near-Future of Copyright and the Internet in Canada, XFaCEMar 29 17:14
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MinceRhttps://9gag.com/gag/aE2DyynMar 29 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thomas the Doctor - 9GAGMar 29 17:59
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Y0JnbcM.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/kWzKEC5 )Mar 29 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crust making my heart melt. - Album on ImgurMar 29 18:14
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/rjDX5ItsOnQMar 29 18:26
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Prrt2wD.jpgMar 29 19:30
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XRevan86MinceR: Vot ar zey duink?Mar 29 19:31
MinceRplaying Communism, obviouslyMar 29 19:32
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1903037Mar 29 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 29 22:02
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19032559Mar 29 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 29 22:25
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I am a candidate for public office.Mar 30 00:29
MinceRokMar 30 00:29
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DaemonFC[m]B-)Mar 30 00:29
DaemonFC[m]I love Illinois.Mar 30 00:29
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schestowitzPeg.Mar 30 07:30
schestowitzda facMar 30 07:30
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DaemonFC[m]AOL, now owned by Verizon, transferred the Netscape brand to itself, renamed the rest of the company to New Aurora Corporation, sold it to Microsoft, and then Microsoft sold it to Facebook.Mar 30 08:02
DaemonFC[m]So Facebook now owns the remains of Netscape Communications Corporation.Mar 30 08:03
DaemonFC[m]Having been passed through Microsoft first.Mar 30 08:03
DaemonFC[m]https://www.jwz.org/blog/2019/03/brand-necrophilia-part-7/Mar 30 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Brand Necrophilia, part 7Mar 30 08:06
DaemonFC[m]https://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/04/brand-necrophilia-part-6/Mar 30 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Brand Necrophilia, part 6Mar 30 08:06
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/yhtzIuWauhXoDoLoyVZXZNgh >Mar 30 08:07
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft apparently picked them over for patents, but what software patents could Netscape have had that still mattered?Mar 30 08:07
DaemonFC[m]Well, this _was_ 2012.Mar 30 08:08
DaemonFC[m]Perhaps some of the patents still had some years left on them.Mar 30 08:09
DaemonFC[m]Wonder if Microsoft sued anyone with them before they expired....Mar 30 08:09
schestowitzblechMar 30 08:10
schestowitzI didn't know FB got theseMar 30 08:10
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I don't know what could have been left of Netscape Communications that Facebook would want.....Mar 30 08:13
DaemonFC[m]Especially after Microsoft picked over the carcass beforehand. Mar 30 08:13
DaemonFC[m]https://lockshot.wordpress.com/2012/04/12/microsoft-acquisition-of-netscapeaol-patents/Mar 30 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lockshot.wordpress.com | Microsoft acquisition of Netscape/AOL patents | hja's blogMar 30 08:14
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: that's MSFTMar 30 09:44
schestowitznot FBMar 30 09:44
schestowitzI wrote about thatMar 30 09:44
schestowitzwhen did FB get some and how many?Mar 30 09:45
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: the patents from netscape time go bell up this year of next.   I could see Microsoft wanting netscape patents under control due to some of the ldap ones.Mar 30 10:49
oiaohmNetscape Directory Server and other items like it are simple to forgot and this does overlap with Microsoft ADS.Mar 30 10:51
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/mZ0ejh4.jpgMar 30 11:43
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/A3ygzUbMar 30 11:46
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19032434Mar 30 12:24
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schestowitzzerogue: Mar 30 13:27
schestowitzooopsMar 30 13:27
schestowitzzoobab not hereMar 30 13:27
schestowitz"Mar 30 13:27
schestowitzRoy,Mar 30 13:27
schestowitzyou may have noted this recent statement by one of the UPC advocates:Mar 30 13:27
schestowitz"Mar 30 13:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/UPCtracker/status/1111212349694902272Mar 30 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UPCtracker: Oxford University press and CH Beck have published the legal commentary on the UPC (Tilmann/Plassmann ed.), an even… https://t.co/KvE4cxWT14Mar 30 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@UPCtracker: Oxford University press and CH Beck have published the legal commentary on the UPC (Tilmann/Plassmann ed.), an even… https://t.co/KvE4cxWT14Mar 30 13:27
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schestowitz"Should you address this on your blog, please do not mention this message and do not cite from it."Mar 30 13:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wfvoogd/status/1111982430183964672Mar 30 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz We should all have fibre and a diaspora pod at home.Mar 30 13:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wfvoogd/status/1111982661583671296Mar 30 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wfvoogd: @schestowitz That is, once diaspora fixed that pod admins can spy on everything.Mar 30 13:38
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DaemonFC[m]My phone is finally getting Android Pie.Mar 30 17:24
DaemonFC[m]Thanks Samsung. I can finally run the version of Android that came out 7 months ago.Mar 30 17:24
scientesmmmm I like pieMar 30 17:32
scientesDaemonFC[m], the answer is to have them run mainline kernelsMar 30 17:32
XRevan86Xposed is still a problem on Pie…Mar 30 17:37
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oiaohmscientes: mainline kernels only fixes some of the problem.Mar 30 18:32
oiaohmhttps://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/one_image_to_rule_them_all/  this would the long term fix to the phone firmware update issue.Mar 30 18:34
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oiaohmOf course this would require phone makers to get all on the same page.Mar 30 18:35
scientesoiaohm, if it ran mainline kernel, with mainline drivers that would happenMar 30 18:35
scientesthat really is the only problemMar 30 18:35
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oiaohmscientes: no you are forgetting the signed check in the soc chip.Mar 30 18:36
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oiaohmmainline drivers is problem 1,   Problem 2 SOC vendors secure boot solutions.Mar 30 18:38
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oiaohmhttps://torrentfreak.com/u-s-wants-copyright-troll-lawyer-in-prison-for-12-5-years-190328/ Now only if this could happen to patent trolls.Mar 30 18:42
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MinceRhttps://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/2718/27189/271897/27189785_3d9a2d1e34d9b773837a5416045a8552_o.jpgMar 30 20:12
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/t/cat/py8hnTQMar 30 20:26
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19032364Mar 30 20:54
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19032362Mar 30 22:10
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/588420.jpgMar 31 02:29
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.jwz.org/blog/2018/02/a-self-taught-exorcist-certainly-makes-errors/Mar 31 08:52
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DaemonFC[m]*sigh*Mar 31 08:53
DaemonFC[m]https://www.jwz.org/blog/2018/04/wifi-jesus-hears-your-prayers-at-2-4-ghz/Mar 31 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: Wifi Jesus hears your prayers at 2.4 GHz.Mar 31 08:55
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XRevan86> The priest said the Church is "out of touch with reality" as they are sending "sufferers of possession" to psychologists instead of performing rituals.Mar 31 12:08
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: so weirdMar 31 13:40
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MinceRlolMar 31 14:14
MinceRthe priest is out of touch with realityMar 31 14:14
MinceRthen again, it's his jobMar 31 14:14
MinceRand also the church's jobMar 31 14:14
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/587721.jpgMar 31 14:16
XRevan86If they absolutely must restore the practice of exorcism, then I think it would be prudent to make sure exorcists have a degree in Psychiatry.Mar 31 14:17
MinceRhumanity needs to cure itself of religions such as this before the religions kill themMar 31 14:17
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/hC1b5si.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/t/cat/wy2MkZG )Mar 31 17:11
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/VtwVaTa.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/BbvVOGR )Mar 31 18:17
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DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: MinceR If they gave exorcists a degree in psychiatry, it would be a bad thing.Mar 31 18:29
DaemonFC[m]"You must not offer me this ring, Frodo! Understand that I would use it from a desire to do good!"Mar 31 18:30
DaemonFC[m]LOLMar 31 18:30
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They'd be too good at conning people?Mar 31 18:30
DaemonFC[m]But seriously....Mar 31 18:30
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DaemonFC[m]How is the Iron Age Death Cult, which is now apparently adopting the position of Scientology on the psychiatry question, because they're losing market share now that mental illness is understood to be the cause of mental illness and not possession by evil spirits, giving their priests psychiatry degrees going to make this lunacy any better?Mar 31 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Provided that they would even agree to do that to begin with....Mar 31 18:31
XRevan86I think of it as a good thing in three ways: 1. they'd know better than think that exorcism is real; 2. they'd know better than conning people (a degree opens doors for more legitimate ways of earning); 3. the church would have a hard time finding people who qualify and willing.Mar 31 18:32
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XRevan86So it's like "we don't ban you from doing exorcism, but you'd have to deliver on quality of the service, and that you objectively cannot do"Mar 31 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Also quite interesting to read, a massive chain of Christian bookstores is closing.Mar 31 18:35
DaemonFC[m]According to the owner, they plan to open an online storefront instead because there's less of a prophet in running the stores these days. *rimshot*Mar 31 18:36
DaemonFC[m]A former Apple executive blamed the closures on not having a strong brand with a good bottom line. Mar 31 18:37
MinceRlolMar 31 18:39
XRevan86> less of a prophetMar 31 18:43
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Good pun :)Mar 31 18:43
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The funny thing is that the bible apps and iTunes probably ran the Christian bookstores out of business in the first place.Mar 31 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Big Business likes the bible. It's something that practically every Christian feels obligated to buy, and not necessarily a cheap-o one either, because it's a fashion accessory they have to lug around to church in their good clothes.Mar 31 18:48
DaemonFC[m]And anyone can print one up because it's in the public domain.Mar 31 18:49
DaemonFC[m]There's actually $1 bibles (full size paperback) in every Dollar Tree store.Mar 31 18:49
DaemonFC[m]Alongside the cooking utensils that melt in the dishwasher, the watered down cleaning chemicals that don't work, the soaps and shampoos that all cost more per ounce than buying the economy sized ones at Walmart.....etc.Mar 31 18:50
DaemonFC[m]That store hit the skids a long time ago.Mar 31 18:50
DaemonFC[m]It made a lot of sense 20 years ago when $1 bought at least 50% more than it does now, but to keep everything at that price point, the merchandise gets worse every year.Mar 31 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Including the kitchen trash bags that rip and tear the first time you put any piece of trash in them and sometimes don't even survive the process of lining the trash can.Mar 31 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Interestingly, they do have the real trash bags there, but you get like 5 Hefty bags for like $1. Okay, so it's $1. If you go to Walmart and spend $10, you get 120 of them, which is 12 per dollar.Mar 31 18:53
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I've but one question: how does a business like that manage to survive?Mar 31 18:54
DaemonFC[m]So their business is selling products in small quantities to some guy who has no money and is now paying more than double for all of his personal supplies than if he took a larger up front hit for larger quantities at the Walmart.Mar 31 18:54
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Blacks and Mexicans. Also, poor white people who are missing all their teeth.Mar 31 18:54
DaemonFC[m]It draws them in with false economy.Mar 31 18:55
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Why do they return there ever?Mar 31 18:55
DaemonFC[m]They see that they only spend $3-4 each time they go in there for supplies, but they're out of supplies again next week.Mar 31 18:55
XRevan86I've been in a shop like that… once.Mar 31 18:55
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Same reason why Buy Here, Pay Here car lots sell a used car to them at twice what it's worth and then finance it at 29% interest.Mar 31 18:56
DaemonFC[m]They end up making $500 a month car payments for 5 years on something that was 8 years old when they got it.Mar 31 18:56
DaemonFC[m]The alternative is that there's no way for them to get to work.Mar 31 18:56
DaemonFC[m]If they ever do pay it off, it's right on time for the vehicle to go to the junk yard as scrap metal anyway.Mar 31 18:57
DaemonFC[m]The process repeats.Mar 31 18:57
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: If you can believe me, if I hadn't been there to VETO John's decision, they wanted to finance a 10 year old 100,000 mile Toyota Prius at 12% interest at a base price of $10,700, with a $28.50 per $1,000 loan origination fee on top of all of that.Mar 31 18:58
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DaemonFC[m]And he tried to buy it from them. I said, "You're insane. 12% interest with an 800 FICO credit score? No. Hell no!".Mar 31 18:58
DaemonFC[m]"And the car isn't even new. At 100,000 miles you're due for some major stuff even if the car is generally in good shape, because that's when all the fluids need swapped out and the new spark plugs have to go in, and you don't even know what shape those battery cells are in after all those years and miles.".Mar 31 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Sure, you might get the car up to 200,000+, but it's not guaranteed.Mar 31 19:00
DaemonFC[m]A lot of used car lots start doing things to make the used cars seem like they're in better shape. They know that customers might want to pop the hood or something, so if they see brown engine coolant, they'll hurry up and spend $20 of shop supplies to flush it out real quick so you think the last guy took really good care of his stuff.Mar 31 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Things like that.Mar 31 19:01
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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, if you buy a car brand new and service it like the manual says, it should hold up okay, maybe even for two decades or more, but people don't.Mar 31 19:02
DaemonFC[m]They get the thing paid off, or sometimes they don't even do that, and then they buy a new one even though theirs still works fine and they've already taken all of that depreciation.Mar 31 19:03
DaemonFC[m]They lose the remaining value and start from square one.Mar 31 19:03
DaemonFC[m]So, manufacturers have all taken note of that.Mar 31 19:03
DaemonFC[m]They only care what happens to people who are going to buy a new car from them routinely, so they design their cars more cheaply to make sales easier, and as a result, if you buy a used car, it's almost certainly ready for a major breakdown.Mar 31 19:04
DaemonFC[m]That's what GM does anyway.Mar 31 19:04
DaemonFC[m]They don't ever advertise what percentage of cars are still on the road in 10 years like Honda, Toyota, and Subaru do. Why would GM want to go toe to toe with that?Mar 31 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Truth in Advertising laws only kick in if you go there.Mar 31 19:05
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DaemonFC[m]If Subaru advertises that 94% are still on the road in 10 years and GM is only 70%, that doesn't make a good commercial for GM when you consider their vehicles cost about the same.Mar 31 19:09
DaemonFC[m]In fact, Consumer Reports did their own brand reliability study and found GM was 23rd for reliability out of 29 brands.Mar 31 19:10
DaemonFC[m]Yet, in 2019, GM runs a commercial saying their cars are more reliable than Honda and Toyota. So what gives? They say that according to a recent survey, that's true, but what survey?Mar 31 19:11
DaemonFC[m]I found out. GM paid for the survey, the questions were worded carefully, and it only asked people whose cars were less than 5 years old. Not really long enough for too many of them to have major mechanical problems, and many of them are under warranty and nobody is more than aggravated when it's a warranty job.Mar 31 19:12
DaemonFC[m]Also, "recent".... well, 2014 anyway.Mar 31 19:12
DaemonFC[m]The survey ran from December of 2013 to June 2014.Mar 31 19:12
DaemonFC[m]Even parts from Auto Zone usually hold up for 5 years, and they're not even close to the same quality as NAPA, or an original part.Mar 31 19:14
DaemonFC[m]Auto Zone is where you get parts for your 20 year old beater car and magic car potions that are more likely to cause sticky lifters and other expensive breakdowns than clean anything out of your engine.Mar 31 19:15
DaemonFC[m]The life expectancy of a car part from Auto Zone is 3-6 years. They're not good parts.Mar 31 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Again, it's a question of (false) economy.Mar 31 19:18
DaemonFC[m]How long do you think the rest of the car has on it?Mar 31 19:18
DaemonFC[m]Another mistake people like to make is that when they're in there getting a timing belt replaced, they don't go ahead and replace some other wear items while they're in there. To get to the coolant pump, you already have to take the timing belt out, and when you take the coolant pump out, the coolant obviously needs to be flushed because it's all gotta come out anyway.Mar 31 19:21
DaemonFC[m]So you should really consider bundling tasks to save money in the long run.Mar 31 19:21
DaemonFC[m]The job of replacing the coolant pump already has the labor time of taking the drive belt off and putting it back on and flushing the coolant out anyway, so you should ask your mechanic how much money you could save if you just did it all at once. Chances are, all of these things need to be done at about the same time anyway, so unless you want your car in there 3 times and to pay hundreds more in labor, do it all atMar 31 19:22
DaemonFC[m]one time.Mar 31 19:22
DaemonFC[m]If they have to take the belt off and put it back on, why put a belt with 150,000 miles on it back on and then risk having it snap 10,000 miles later?Mar 31 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Another lesson learned..... The dealer service department labor rates can be....intimidating.Mar 31 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Part of the reason they do this is to help push up the cost of jobs and make it seem like extended warranties pay for themselves.Mar 31 19:24
DaemonFC[m]The salesman can scare you into thinking that a water pump is an $800 job when an independent might bring it in for $300.Mar 31 19:25
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DaemonFC[m]I'm not sure how, but soon after I bought my car, the air conditioning went out. I took it back into the dealer and they evacuated and refilled the system, claiming the factory had put too much refrigerant in and that it needed to be at just the right level or else. When I got back in the car, the air conditioner still didn't work, so I popped the hood and the guy said, "Oh, that could be the problem." and pointed atMar 31 19:27
DaemonFC[m]a broken wire.Mar 31 19:27
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DaemonFC[m]I have no idea whether the wire was broken when I brought it in because I didn't think to check, but I wouldn't put it past them to have cut it to add an extra warranty job for Kia to pay for.Mar 31 19:27
DaemonFC[m]In any event, the air conditioning was working properly when I left with it. Hopefully, it works fine when I turn it on again this summer.Mar 31 19:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So I was talking to the upstairs neighbor, Dan. He was talking to me about how he just does work on the place quietly because you have to pay and receive a permit from the city to do anything.Mar 31 19:30
DaemonFC[m]Including a building permit to replace one rotten board on your deck.Mar 31 19:31
DaemonFC[m]And you also have to apply for and receive permission and pay $100 for each tree you wish to cut down on your property.Mar 31 19:31
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, we fought a war and kicked the British out so that we could live on an acre or two of land,  with an $11,000 annual property tax bill (on top of everything else), and then ask a bloated government that figures out how to keep itself in power by making sure you have no actual choices on the ballot, which wastes all of our money, if it's okay to give it more money so we can put one wooden board and 6 nailsMar 31 19:34
DaemonFC[m]into a deck.Mar 31 19:34
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DaemonFC[m]And in exchange for all of that, we drive on roads with potholes, have interstate bridges collapsing, and have no healthcare, while the president thinks it's a pressing emergency that needs $30 billion because people who are somehow both lazy and want to work are coming here at the lowest rate in 40 years.Mar 31 19:37
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Really would pay to check what wire that was broken.   Kia still uses master fuse wires so over draw in particular areas cause wire breaks near the battery.Mar 31 20:37
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: yes a short while working on them will also break those fuses.Mar 31 20:38
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DaemonFC[m]One of my favorite Babylon 5 moments.Mar 31 21:49
DaemonFC[m]panel blows upMar 31 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Ivanova: "Great. Doesn't anything come under warranty anymore?"Mar 31 21:49
DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: Yeah, apparently, Kia provides a "wire harness repair kit" to the dealers.Mar 31 21:50
DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: They said the original problem seemed to be that it was overfilled by 11% at the factory.Mar 31 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Which seemed sort of odd.Mar 31 21:51
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Sounds like something she'd sayMar 31 21:53
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: I had a car where the fuses default wire fuses were about 5 percent under size due to being slow blow they took about 3 years to burn though.Mar 31 22:23
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: so depending on the mistake it could take a while to show up.Mar 31 22:23
oiaohmThis is why I kind of ask more questions if it one of the fuse links.   Was the reason it broke just something holding it bad or was it in fact the wrong size if so the new one better be the correct size.Mar 31 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Well, I have an "extended warranty" on the car that covers everything as the manufacturer's warranty starts to expire, for 10 years.Mar 31 22:27
DaemonFC[m]So I shouldn't have any major repair bills as long as the extended warranty people make good on the deal. I've heard mixed reviews.Mar 31 22:27
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