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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mistersaxon/status/1122574013409181696 | Apr 29 06:51 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... duplicate URL | Apr 29 06:52 |
| schestowitz | let's try https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1122525149230772225 | Apr 29 06:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alumniUoM/status/1122799464836685824 | Apr 29 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alumniUoM: @schestowitz Hi Roy, apologies that you're not happy with our approach. We have invited alumni to submit questions… https://t.co/ykxXXDmMQM | Apr 29 13:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 29 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Hi Roy, apologies that you're not happy with our approach. We have invited alumni to submit questions to the panel in advance, you can watch without an account and will be making a recording available (not on FB) afterwards so it is possible to participate without using FB. | Apr 29 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, good. | Apr 29 13:53 |
| schestowitz | The backlash against FB seems to be working | Apr 29 13:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1122800297204699136 | Apr 29 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jrobertson: Don't discriminate against people for the following reasons: * aren't registered with Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp… https://t.co/kV9ceZPKdE | Apr 29 13:54 | |
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| schestowitz | More James Robertson Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Apr 29 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Don't discriminate against people for the following reasons: | Apr 29 13:54 |
| schestowitz | * aren't registered with Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp etc | Apr 29 13:54 |
| schestowitz | * use a landline telephone instead of a mobile | Apr 29 13:54 |
| schestowitz | #disgraceful #manchesteruni | Apr 29 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/billbennettnz/status/1122765475044192256 | Apr 29 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@billbennettnz: How my relationship with my university ended. https://t.co/Rv8GhxC5jX | Apr 29 13:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Appalling. University of Manchester Alumni Association is now discriminating people who aren't registered in… https://t.co/vEj9ZRwgnQ | Apr 29 13:54 | |
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| amarsh04 | schestowitz have found that kind of situation with concerts using e-tickets in Japan, some deliberately try to be inclusive (Tixeebox needs at least an android or apple smartphone), but the concert promoters can do things like verification against a Japanese telephone number and non-residents can't have a Japanese mobile number | Apr 29 14:11 |
| amarsh04 | I was able to get a travel agent to do the verification for me, but unless the promoters deliberately try to be inclusive they discriminate against people without smartphones / non residents ... | Apr 29 14:13 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: I like the theory that non-residents cannot have a Japanese mobile number. Its more that the japanese anti scapling laws apply to residents. | Apr 29 14:17 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: so if you have to use a local agent you cannot be scapling. | Apr 29 14:17 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: one of my friends has a girl friend who is Japanese. He does have a japanese mobile number even that he is not resident. Required to sign stack of paperwork in japan and home country so that if he does a crime with said japan phone he is to go to japan without question and answer japan courts. | Apr 29 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Basically you don't need to be a resident to have a japan phone number. But you have to agree to obey japan laws using it and face their courts. If he did not need for business he would not have done it. | Apr 29 14:21 |
| MinceR | there are no apple smartphones | Apr 29 14:32 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: like or not its meets the define of a smartphone. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/worlds-first-smartphone-simon-launched-before-iphone-2015-6?r=US&IR=T | Apr 29 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com.au | The world's first smartphone, Simon, was created 15 years before the iPhone | Business Insider | Apr 29 14:39 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you have to remember the term smartphone was defined in 1992 when all the software could be write into a once write rom. | Apr 29 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Smartphone by term does not have to mean you can upgrade the bugger or install third party software. | Apr 29 14:40 |
| oiaohm | We really do need a new term. | Apr 29 14:40 |
| MinceR | afaik the Simon could run any software off a memory card | Apr 29 14:46 |
| MinceR | without it having to be signed by anyone | Apr 29 14:46 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: there were models done of the simon without memory card for secure usage. | Apr 29 14:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and those were still called smartphones. | Apr 29 14:52 |
| oiaohm | The term smartphone does in fact mandate that you can run third party applications. It mandates features more than you find in a general feature phone. | Apr 29 14:53 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: so what's the difference between smartphones and featurephones? | Apr 29 14:53 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: But not J2ME applications, eh :) | Apr 29 14:55 |
| MinceR | hypePhones can't even run j2me | Apr 29 14:55 |
| MinceR | my first featurephone was more open than those pieces of shit :) | Apr 29 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Original feature difference bigger screen and a touch screen and applications that support touch screen. | Apr 29 14:56 |
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| XRevan86 | My first cell phone was Nokia 3110, I wonder if that counts as a featurephone %) | Apr 29 14:56 |
| MinceR | bigger than what? | Apr 29 14:56 |
| MinceR | also, where's the citation? | Apr 29 14:57 |
| MinceR | apparently the IBM Simon had a 4.7127487" screen. someone call nokia and tell them they're not allowed to market the nokia 6260 as a smartphone | Apr 29 14:58 |
| MinceR | or the nokia 9110i communicator | Apr 29 14:59 |
| oiaohm | http://time.com/3137005/first-smartphone-ibm-simon/ I did not say what way the screen was measured. | Apr 29 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-First Smartphone: Fun Facts About Simon | Time | Apr 29 15:00 | |
| MinceR | also someone call htc and tell them they're not allowed to market the HTC Wizard as a smartphone either | Apr 29 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Feature phones really did not have historically big screens. | Apr 29 15:00 |
| MinceR | neither did smartphones | Apr 29 15:00 |
| MinceR | "Request has been terminated Possible causes: the network is offline, Origin is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin, the page is being unloaded, etc." | Apr 29 15:00 |
| MinceR | time is a piece of shit site | Apr 29 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Note I said original feature difference. | Apr 29 15:00 |
| oiaohm | My old feature phones could run j2me applications as well. | Apr 29 15:01 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 29 15:01 |
| MinceR | from which follows that hypePhones are dumbphones | Apr 29 15:01 |
| MinceR | which is fitting, as they're designed for dumb people | Apr 29 15:01 |
| oiaohm | It fairly much comes it has a touch screen its a smartphone. | Apr 29 15:01 |
| MinceR | no, it does not | Apr 29 15:01 |
| oiaohm | By what is unique. | Apr 29 15:01 |
| MinceR | nokia sold plenty of smartphone models which did not have a touchscreen | Apr 29 15:02 |
| MinceR | so did blackberry, iirc | Apr 29 15:02 |
| MinceR | and sony-ericsson | Apr 29 15:02 |
| MinceR | "Although the term "smartphone" was not coined until 1995, because of Simon's features and capabilities, it has been retrospectively referred to as the first smartphone." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Simon | Apr 29 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | IBM Simon - Wikipedia | Apr 29 15:02 | |
| oiaohm | Problem is the term feature phone and smartphone basically overlap. | Apr 29 15:03 |
| MinceR | there's a pretty handy and meaningful difference | Apr 29 15:03 |
| oiaohm | You know you are 100 percent in smartphone when you have touch screen. | Apr 29 15:03 |
| MinceR | it's just that crApple cultists don't like that it exists | Apr 29 15:04 |
| MinceR | no, i do not | Apr 29 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Other than what you think is a smartphone could be defined as a feature phone by the maker. | Apr 29 15:04 |
| MinceR | could be, but isn't | Apr 29 15:04 |
| oiaohm | and reviewers. | Apr 29 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Sorry it happened enough times. | Apr 29 15:04 |
| MinceR | most reviewers are idiots | Apr 29 15:05 |
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| MinceR | it's bad enough that this industry was flooded by hordes of idiots, it's even worse to let them redefine everything | Apr 29 15:05 |
| MinceR | "crApple can't put anything other than a touchscreen into a mobile phone and my butt would hurt if i didn't get to call the hypePhone a smartphone, therefore i decided that a touchscreen is sufficient for a phone to be a smartphone" | Apr 29 15:06 |
| oiaohm | The problem was the split between feature phone and smart phone is really mud. Smart phones bigger processor and ram than feature phones that another difference. Running third party applications is not a difference. Being locked or not locked to third party applications store is not a difference either. | Apr 29 15:09 |
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| oiaohm | Again how much bigger processor and ram makes something a smartphone to a feature phone is another thing that can basically get into debate. | Apr 29 15:10 |
| oiaohm | I really hope one day we can have a term meaning decent phone. That is able to be upgraded by your or the maker due to being true foss software. | Apr 29 15:12 |
| MinceR | funny thing, hypePhones also suck specwise | Apr 29 15:12 |
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| MinceR | and they're also smaller than the smartphones of the same generation | Apr 29 15:13 |
| oiaohm | That a iphone is called a smartphone does not mean it a good phone because the define of smartphone you can get away with a mega crap device and call it smartphone. | Apr 29 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Like you see so called android smartphone watches with insanely small touch screens. | Apr 29 15:13 |
| MinceR | the whole point of a smartphone is the extra functionality afforded by the open platform and the filesystem shared by its applications | Apr 29 15:13 |
| MinceR | letting you do some actual work on files, not just on the web | Apr 29 15:13 |
| MinceR | hypeOS allows none of this, unless it's jailbroken | Apr 29 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Not all the early smartphones where open platform early blackberry you had to by sdk. | Apr 29 15:14 |
| oiaohm | by/buy | Apr 29 15:14 |
| oiaohm | This is my problem smartphone does not mean what we want it to mean. | Apr 29 15:14 |
| MinceR | i don't know blackberry that well, it was aimed at something other than what i was interested in | Apr 29 15:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, it means whatever someone else you appoint wants it to mean | Apr 29 15:15 |
| MinceR | and screw all the industry practices from before crApple fucked it up | Apr 29 15:15 |
| MinceR | (like they fuck everything else up) | Apr 29 15:15 |
| oiaohm | Please note blackberry the first item release with the term smartphone was not that open. | Apr 29 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Open platform was not part of the early smartphone define. | Apr 29 15:16 |
| MinceR | the first blackberry came out in 1999 | Apr 29 15:16 |
| MinceR | that was a late comer | Apr 29 15:16 |
| MinceR | the term was coined in 1995 | Apr 29 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Coined yet defines not directly released with the term. | Apr 29 15:17 |
| MinceR | and the first blackberry was a two-way pager | Apr 29 15:17 |
| MinceR | not even a phone | Apr 29 15:17 |
| oiaohm | even when the smartphone term was made there was horrible debate if x or y devices should be smartphones or just advanced feature phones. | Apr 29 15:18 |
| MinceR | and if there's a debate, you get rid of your standards | Apr 29 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Exactly | Apr 29 15:18 |
| oiaohm | basically it broken down. Define was not clear enough. | Apr 29 15:18 |
| MinceR | or people were trying to cut corners | Apr 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | call it a smartphone but not give the user what that implies | Apr 29 15:19 |
| oiaohm | That why you need a really solid clear define. | Apr 29 15:19 |
| oiaohm | That cannot be debated. | Apr 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | instead force them into your little walled garden so you don't have to compete with competent software developers | Apr 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | the apple way. | Apr 29 15:19 |
| MinceR | also tax them 30% for every sale | Apr 29 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Nokia and other makers on advanced feature phone/early possible smartphones started messing with the walled garden app stores. | Apr 29 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Before apple | Apr 29 15:20 |
| MinceR | nokia didn't do that | Apr 29 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Mind you apple takes a way bigger cut than any of those. | Apr 29 15:20 |
| MinceR | they merely fucked with application signing | Apr 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | afaik only a few APIs (such as DRM) were locked behind their approval | Apr 29 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Nokia was charging for signing. | Apr 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | and there were several symbian releases before mandatory app signing | Apr 29 15:21 |
| oiaohm | As I said light cost. | Apr 29 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Not Apples 30% bullshit charge. | Apr 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | there was also a way to sign with a self-signed certificate, which they did not charge for | Apr 29 15:21 |
| MinceR | it just locked you out of a few APIs | Apr 29 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Again locked out of those API was walled garden early experments. | Apr 29 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Will you pay for API access or will you not. | Apr 29 15:22 |
| MinceR | indeed, and microsoft and google are experimenting with that again | Apr 29 15:23 |
| MinceR | with microsoft, it's UWP, with google, it's google play | Apr 29 15:23 |
| MinceR | apple has probably killed the smartphone and the general purpose computer by making closed platforms popular | Apr 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | we're seeing their death throes | Apr 29 15:26 |
| MinceR | i wonder how they expect to develop software for their appliances once no computers suitable for that purpose are manufactured anymore, though | Apr 29 15:27 |
| oiaohm | We are starting to see the rise of FOSS silicon and other things. | Apr 29 15:28 |
| MinceR | i wonder if the powers that be will allow that | Apr 29 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Reality is Apple with iphone really just pushed to extreams to what was already happening with smartphones. | Apr 29 15:29 |
| MinceR | or it will be banned like routers with firmware you could replace with a FLOSS one | Apr 29 15:29 |
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| MinceR | which smartphones was it happening with? | Apr 29 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Early experments with wall gardening. | Apr 29 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Apple takes that to the extream. | Apr 29 15:30 |
| MinceR | whose experiments? | Apr 29 15:30 |
| oiaohm | With nokia and the locked out apis, and others from that earlier time frame. | Apr 29 15:30 |
| MinceR | those don't come anywhere near what apple did | Apr 29 15:31 |
| oiaohm | As I said extream. | Apr 29 15:31 |
| oiaohm | You take those basic things that device makers were getting away with and go how far can I push that for my benifit and that is apple. | Apr 29 15:31 |
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| MinceR | so why excuse them? | Apr 29 15:32 |
| oiaohm | we are started to see with color os out of china forced bundled applications and force app store usage as well. | Apr 29 15:33 |
| oiaohm | I don't excuse apple for what they did. | Apr 29 15:33 |
| oiaohm | But the problem I have its not going to be only apple who looks at it and says cool we can go extream and profit. | Apr 29 15:33 |
| oiaohm | Reason why I want some correctly define term for phones that basically says no walled garden. | Apr 29 15:34 |
| oiaohm | To be correct no walled garden and upgradeable as long as user wishes. | Apr 29 15:35 |
| MinceR | according to GSM Arena, the Ericsson R380 had a "Big" screen. so informative! so precise! | Apr 29 15:36 |
| oiaohm | Yep super vague greedy device makers ideal world for profit. | Apr 29 15:37 |
| MinceR | it's a specs site | Apr 29 15:37 |
| oiaohm | That can be what was written on the Ericssons spec sheet as well. | Apr 29 15:38 |
| oiaohm | They did not include physical sizes of screen all the time. Small, medium, large, big. | Apr 29 15:39 |
| oiaohm | And just to be horrible the model with medium in spec sheet could have large screen than large and big in the same ericssons generation of devices. | Apr 29 15:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 29 15:40 |
| oiaohm | Lot of ways other than phsysical define things anything else about phones has been fairly much marketing terms used how the device maker would think would get them the most sales/profit. | Apr 29 15:41 |
| MinceR | even the first smartphone with a capacitive touchscreen, the LG Prada only had a 3" screen | Apr 29 15:41 |
| oiaohm | Like advanced feature phone for your low end model and then a smartphone for the high end yet they both basically have the same cpu/ram maybe a screen size difference at times. | Apr 29 15:42 |
| oiaohm | It basically been that horrible. | Apr 29 15:42 |
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| MinceR | the platform was supposed to make the difference | Apr 29 15:42 |
| MinceR | and with nokia, it certainly did | Apr 29 15:43 |
| oiaohm | Not all device makers obeyed that. | Apr 29 15:43 |
| MinceR | they had very similar monoblock phones with non-touch screen with a wide difference in price, one being a featurephone running something like Series 40, the other running Symbian (usually with Series 60 UI) | Apr 29 15:43 |
| oiaohm | this is mess before apple. | Apr 29 15:43 |
| MinceR | and the latter being a smartphone, of course | Apr 29 15:44 |
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| oiaohm | LG , sony/ericson, moto it was not as nicely clear cut has nokia had it. | Apr 29 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Basically the rules on what was a smartphone was basically well and truly busted before apple turned up. | Apr 29 15:45 |
| oiaohm | Of course apple took advantage of the fact it was busted but that is apple. | Apr 29 15:45 |
| MinceR | iirc Sony-Ericsson was pretty clear cut too | Apr 29 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Except for the few models they decide to call advanced feature phones so they could charge more for the smartphone models. | Apr 29 15:46 |
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| oiaohm | That was not great move long term. | Apr 29 15:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: you can fairly much say greed ruined the smartphone term/branding. | Apr 29 15:49 |
| MinceR | mainly apple's | Apr 29 15:50 |
| oiaohm | The ruining starts before apple turns up. | Apr 29 15:50 |
| oiaohm | Apple just was the most greedy as so sure they could get away with more. | Apr 29 15:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we have to live with the results of the early screw ups. | Apr 29 15:53 |
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| oiaohm | Think if smartphones had remained defined as a phone with open API for third party applications we would not have the android google play service madness. | Apr 29 15:53 |
| schestowitz | [14:13] <amarsh04> I was able to get a travel agent to do the verification for me, but unless the promoters deliberately try to be inclusive they discriminate against people without smartphones / non residents ... | Apr 29 15:58 |
| schestowitz | this kind of discrimination is common not only in Japan, amarsh04 | Apr 29 15:58 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021919 | Apr 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 29 20:15 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021654 | Apr 29 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 29 21:46 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is mean. | Apr 29 21:47 |
| MinceR | as it should be | Apr 29 21:48 |
| *DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: image.png (396KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/whnUugneypAGKHYaiVdThtLX > | Apr 29 21:51 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I got to wear the big suit. | Apr 30 05:12 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: who are these? | Apr 30 06:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: if it's a cucumber...? | Apr 30 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > DaemonFC: who are these? | Apr 30 06:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jason Krause on the left. Lead singer of Big Suit. Me on the right. It's a Talking Heads tribute band. | Apr 30 06:32 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021537 | Apr 30 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Apr 30 07:39 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.theonion.com/nasa-completes-52-year-mission-to-find-kill-god-1819572297 | Apr 30 08:08 |
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| mp_en_viaje | hello | Apr 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | hi | Apr 30 10:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | soo, this place was recently mentioned in the most serene republic's forum. i figured i'd check it out. | Apr 30 10:11 |
| schestowitz | switzerland? | Apr 30 10:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 << item. | Apr 30 10:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | anyone know that cat-v reference ? | Apr 30 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-30#1910197 ) | Apr 30 10:12 | |
| mp_en_viaje | hm. | Apr 30 10:12 |
| schestowitz | not reach site | Apr 30 10:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | http://104.131.72.249/log/2019-04-30#1910197 | Apr 30 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-104.131.72.249 | tmsr - Log 2019-04-30 | Apr 30 10:12 | |
| mp_en_viaje | there's some dns shenanigans afoot i guess. anyways. | Apr 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | catv? | Apr 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | not idea what that is | Apr 30 10:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | alright. so what's this all about then ? | Apr 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | verbase cat ;-) | Apr 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | verbose | Apr 30 10:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, cat-v was an attempt by thinking people to salvage computers in particular and intellectual activity in general from the mob of retards & other children not left behind that should've been left behind. it principally revolved around one fellow, who died. after he died, the thing turned into scar tissue. | Apr 30 10:14 |
| schestowitz | cat-v does sound familiar | Apr 30 10:15 |
| schestowitz | just not sure where from | Apr 30 10:15 |
| mp_en_viaje | aite. | Apr 30 10:16 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, so are you running the channel logger ? | Apr 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | for 11+ years now | Apr 30 10:18 |
| mp_en_viaje | that's a longish time. what all happened in the interval ? | Apr 30 10:19 |
| schestowitz | we changed missions | Apr 30 10:20 |
| schestowitz | as Novell went out of business | Apr 30 10:21 |
| *mp_en_viaje is listening. | Apr 30 10:23 | |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, afaik they were jsut bought by some other corp, continuing as division. | Apr 30 10:23 |
| mp_en_viaje | LSE: MCRO | Apr 30 10:24 |
| mp_en_viaje | same guys who bought to bury the borland source code pile etcetera. | Apr 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | 3 changeovers | Apr 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | since 2010 | Apr 30 10:25 |
| mp_en_viaje | basically, the empire's been warehousing / concentrating its various outposts in the republic since the big leaks. | Apr 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | attachmate the first | Apr 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | now some Swedish holding company | Apr 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | but in parts, Novell has been further partitioned since | Apr 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is a big SAP supplier | Apr 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | German Intel/BND and others in its network | Apr 30 10:26 |
| mp_en_viaje | right. | Apr 30 10:26 |
| mp_en_viaje | so was this internally represented as some sort of victory, or rather as simple defeat, "we can't meaningfully interact with this fox in all fairness" ? | Apr 30 10:27 |
| schestowitz | oh, since you mention this.. | Apr 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz | you have GOT to read this: | Apr 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz | it's a week or two old: | Apr 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/04/14/ronald-hovsepian-vs-techrights/ | Apr 30 10:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Poor’ (Multi-Millionaire) Novell CEO, Who Colluded With Steve Ballmer Against GNU/Linux, is Trying to Censor Techrights | Techrights | Apr 30 10:29 | |
| mp_en_viaje | alright, since you say i gotta, then im gonna. | Apr 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | shows how effective we were even one decade ago | Apr 30 10:29 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, there's two things i dislike about that site. one is that the viewport's extremely narrow, i have to zoom in like 4 times. the other's that it misses the selection thing, like http://trilema.com/2015/that-spiffy-selection-thing/#selection-29.0-29.14 therefore if i want to link to a specific item i | Apr 30 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That spiffy selection thing. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 10:30 | |
| mp_en_viaje | 'm sol. | Apr 30 10:30 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org has the same design as in 2006 | Apr 30 10:31 |
| schestowitz | it's intentional, maybe a feature, we're a tad retro | Apr 30 10:31 |
| mp_en_viaje | i guess. | Apr 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | wannt get an APPPPPP? | Apr 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | With SOCIAL MEEEEDIA? | Apr 30 10:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | no. | Apr 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | And 30 MB of JAVAAAASCRIPT? | Apr 30 10:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, you don't know who i am, do you ? | Apr 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Apr 30 10:34 |
| schestowitz | potentially edgy it seems, but not intimidating | Apr 30 10:35 |
| schestowitz | mp_en_viaje is ~humperdin | Apr 30 10:35 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/20/openbsd_bailed_out/ << can start say there. | Apr 30 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' • The Register | Apr 30 10:36 | |
| schestowitz | Mircea Popescu ? | Apr 30 10:36 |
| mp_en_viaje | yes. | Apr 30 10:36 |
| mp_en_viaje | hence the mp. | Apr 30 10:36 |
| schestowitz | aha | Apr 30 10:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | but anyway, as to the article i'm reading : "We have lots to say to refute this letter, but why bother replying to it directly?" << i can tell you why it's worth replying to it directly : because as i come by and try to evaluate what's going on, i can't quite understand what's in contention. are you proposing you got the dude fired ? are you proposing his fellow rats didn't hire him anymore because you put the kaibosh on his head, like it happen | Apr 30 10:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | ed when i sent rando "bitcoin head developer" packing ? is it simply a case of "oh noes, lawyers send letters, we've been chosen" ? | Apr 30 10:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | i don't know what i'm reading here. | Apr 30 10:38 |
| schestowitz | I wrote that in a hurry amid EPO coverage | Apr 30 10:38 |
| schestowitz | had I gone into details, it would be clearer with more links to articles from 2010 | Apr 30 10:39 |
| schestowitz | we're past 25,000 articles at techrights now | Apr 30 10:39 |
| mp_en_viaje | for all i can readily evaluate, the ~only factual statement in all of this, specifically whether any suse employees were terminated at so and so juncture, may even be true. in any case i don't perceive enough substance there to send my own intel checking -- specifically because you make no strong statement either way, for all i know you're agreeing ? | Apr 30 10:39 |
| schestowitz | I stated upfront that I wasn't going to do a detailed rebuttal of the latter (albeit I could) | Apr 30 10:40 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, i once sat down at a bar, and asked for apple pie. they brought me it. i tried some. girl asked me what's the problem ? i said the pie's not very good. she replied "oh, we have so many pies". "are any good ?" "not really". | Apr 30 10:40 |
| mp_en_viaje | you see where this is heading ? | Apr 30 10:40 |
| schestowitz | (remember this goes back almost a decade when I wrote about 10 articles a day) | Apr 30 10:40 |
| mp_en_viaje | nothing wrong with that. | Apr 30 10:40 |
| schestowitz | putting the letter out there was the key thing | Apr 30 10:40 |
| schestowitz | he could not get a job after Novell because he had colluded with Steve Ballmer | Apr 30 10:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | "supported by a lot of media references" << see, but all i find here is a summary statement i can't evaluate. | Apr 30 10:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | but sure, nothing wrong with putting the letter out there. | Apr 30 10:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | do you want to see a letter i put out there ? | Apr 30 10:41 |
| schestowitz | go for it | Apr 30 10:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/ | Apr 30 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interacting with fiat institutions, a guide on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 10:42 | |
| *schestowitz looks | Apr 30 10:43 | |
| mp_en_viaje | ~same idea, except of course from the administration rather than from the private side of that liberal profession ; and i daresay with clearly-er stated points of fact, law an' ideology. | Apr 30 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Wow, very courageous | Apr 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz | The Novell letter wasn't even the 'scary' one | Apr 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz | we got some from EPO lawyers, who didn't like us receiving leaks that expose corruption | Apr 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz | And there was the case Microsoft OOXML threats, I think it's the first we got (2008) | Apr 30 10:45 |
| mp_en_viaje | oh, keks. here : http://trilema.com/2017/the-incidental-humiliation-of-obamas-clean-energy-policies-marc-andreessens-internet-of-farts-and-other-such-comedic-gold-bricks/ (that time when we published a buncha admin pws for a bunch of public funds bought, useless "green energy" pieces of shit) | Apr 30 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The incidental humiliation of Obama's "clean energy" policies ; Marc Andreessen's Internet of Farts and other such comedic gold bricks. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 10:45 | |
| schestowitz | greenwashing | Apr 30 10:46 |
| schestowitz | did you see wikileaks macron leaks? | Apr 30 10:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | quite. but you see, with ~numbers~. with dates, with fucking passwords so everyoen can check etcetera. | Apr 30 10:46 |
| schestowitz | they too have something to that effect | Apr 30 10:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | not easy to get by now, it's such ridiculous nonsense it leaks like a sieve. | Apr 30 10:46 |
| schestowitz | admission that carbon tax would somehow balanced removal of employees benefit | Apr 30 10:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | course, the linked piece was 2017, ie, as per usual, before wikileaks. and actually, before people started figuring out the whole solar scam. | Apr 30 10:47 |
| schestowitz | I remember that article from Gavin Clarke about openbsd | Apr 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | he no longer writes there AFAIK | Apr 30 10:48 |
| mp_en_viaje | possibly not. | Apr 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | He used to cover lots of Microsoft PR | Apr 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Later a bit of Canonical | Apr 30 10:48 |
| mp_en_viaje | but anyway, the only important point here, rather far from "oh yeah ? well my daddy could beat your daddy" or whatever dickmeasuring, is that existence is predicated on action. gotta DO to exist. | Apr 30 10:49 |
| schestowitz | activism sense? | Apr 30 10:50 |
| schestowitz | https://www.suse.com/c/going-to-sapphire-now-2019-dont-miss-to/ | Apr 30 10:50 |
| schestowitz | lol | Apr 30 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | suse just published this | Apr 30 10:50 |
| schestowitz | SAP PR every single day this month. | Apr 30 10:50 |
| mp_en_viaje | meh, "activism" doesn't mean much to me. no, republican sense. | Apr 30 10:50 |
| schestowitz | are you referring to the lawyers' pockets and some such? | Apr 30 10:52 |
| mp_en_viaje | no, i'm referring to say the republic baking its own hardware ; there's a guy who lives in uruguay to maintain our independent datacenter ; some guy went to qatar on diplomatic mission. did i tell you about that time i enslaved the head of the hr dept of usg's airline security mfg, leaving them in a lurch ? | Apr 30 10:53 |
| mp_en_viaje | that sorta thing. doing. | Apr 30 10:53 |
| schestowitz | what is the end goal? | Apr 30 10:56 |
| mp_en_viaje | here : https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolereneecichocki | http://trilema.com/2018/meet-miss-piggy/ | Apr 30 10:56 |
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| mp_en_viaje | the end goal is the definitive destruction of even the possibility of the socialist state. | Apr 30 10:56 |
| schestowitz | should have added nsfw | Apr 30 10:59 |
| mp_en_viaje | hm. i guess i should have. | Apr 30 10:59 |
| mp_en_viaje | of course, from where i sit the "nsfw" notion's as much part of the problem as macron or w/e similar oldwoman-driven bullshit. | Apr 30 11:00 |
| schestowitz | trudeau obama and macron | Apr 30 11:01 |
| schestowitz | young, but persisting with same agenda | Apr 30 11:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe good at getting some millennial votes, people who still have energy and activism | Apr 30 11:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | there's some debate ongoing whether it's properly speaking any kind of agenda. in principle, stuff in your fridge molds because it molds, not because it conspires to mold. | Apr 30 11:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | the failure modes of society are driven by failure, not necessarily by conspiracy. | Apr 30 11:02 |
| schestowitz | that's true | Apr 30 11:03 |
| schestowitz | ability to change is restrained by all sorts of underhanded means | Apr 30 11:03 |
| mp_en_viaje | so then, from the socialism=stupidity grand equation, one can readily arrive at "if there wasn't this '''particular''' macronobama, there'd have been '''another''', much like meat left in the sun will be flyblown, not by any ~particular~ fly, but by the circumstances of meat, open air, and sun above. | Apr 30 11:04 |
| schestowitz | the trajectories do vary, there's competition over them | Apr 30 11:06 |
| mp_en_viaje | i suppose there is. | Apr 30 11:06 |
| schestowitz | ideaologies | Apr 30 11:06 |
| schestowitz | god complexes | Apr 30 11:06 |
| schestowitz | *ideologies | Apr 30 11:06 |
| schestowitz | bill gates has managed to turn all US schools (getting there) private | Apr 30 11:07 |
| schestowitz | for-profit, oligarch-owned | Apr 30 11:07 |
| mp_en_viaje | if not owned by the lord and master, how are schools supposed to work ? | Apr 30 11:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | oxford worked for as long as it was oligarch-owned, and died ignominously just as soon as that went away. | Apr 30 11:08 |
| schestowitz | teachers | Apr 30 11:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | but teacher either means "someone who understands the lord" or else means "some rando talking gibberish" | Apr 30 11:09 |
| schestowitz | administration kills academia and schools | Apr 30 11:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | now that is true. | Apr 30 11:09 |
| schestowitz | overpaid bureaucrats | Apr 30 11:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | but it's true principally because lordship abdicated from ownership. | Apr 30 11:09 |
| schestowitz | what about NHS? | Apr 30 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Overpaying some private firms now | Apr 30 11:10 |
| schestowitz | same in Finland | Apr 30 11:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | too many doctors, their guild failed some time ago. | Apr 30 11:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | but it failed like everything fails : once authority abdicates, the scar tissue moves in. those bureaucrats, obviously enough want to save their necks, as their first imperative. but in secnd place, they don't want to fuck shi tup. they want to do as best they can. | Apr 30 11:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | the problem is that there's no possibility of meaning except as predicated upon authority. absent authority, maning dissolves and the poor schmucks are left without a rudder. | Apr 30 11:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | so they replace schooling with pep rallies and "safety debriefs" or w/e. | Apr 30 11:12 |
| schestowitz | w/e? | Apr 30 11:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | w/e = whatever. | Apr 30 11:13 |
| schestowitz | ic.. | Apr 30 11:14 |
| schestowitz | either way... | Apr 30 11:16 |
| schestowitz | schools should be paternalistic in the merits sense | Apr 30 11:16 |
| mp_en_viaje | the problem with nhs isn't the n in it. the problem's everyone involved is trying to get in george costanza's position, "they can't accuse me of not being comfortable", rather than trying to do anything positive. | Apr 30 11:16 |
| schestowitz | profit motive skewers them | Apr 30 11:16 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, or rather, schools can't be any other way. though people could go about calling african temples "schools", this is not unlike calling cow piss "beer". if you do you do and once you stop doing it... | Apr 30 11:17 |
| mp_en_viaje | it's not at all clear to me that profit motive has anything to do with any of it. | Apr 30 11:17 |
| schestowitz | merit is OK | Apr 30 11:17 |
| schestowitz | merit and profit isn't always the same | Apr 30 11:18 |
| mp_en_viaje | empirically evident, this. | Apr 30 11:18 |
| schestowitz | that it is or isn't? | Apr 30 11:18 |
| mp_en_viaje | that they're not always the same. | Apr 30 11:19 |
| schestowitz | indoctrination tells people otherwise | Apr 30 11:19 |
| mp_en_viaje | if you give free money to idiots, those idiots can then band together and invest random nonsense with "profit", arbitrarily. much like if you give the same idiots "choice" they can go about reconstructing lords out of scapegoats. and so on. | Apr 30 11:19 |
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| schestowitz | OK, but if profits begets profit, that too can evade a moralistic perspective | Apr 30 11:21 |
| schestowitz | you could chop down the Amazon forests. but that would not be as clever as profitable (sort term) | Apr 30 11:21 |
| schestowitz | *short | Apr 30 11:21 |
| mp_en_viaje | alcibiades of athens does not become leonidas ist through the procedure of athens gathering together and "agreeing" alcibiades is leonidas. nor by voting, not any other way. and some random pornai from the port doesn't become gorgo just because the punters say so. | Apr 30 11:23 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, well obviously, profit miscalculated (such as by externalizing internalities) is just a joke. a teenager could run a "profitable" 2nd hand shop by cutting school and selling his mother's wardrobe while the parents are at work. this is profit only from the particularly braindamaged pov of adolescents. | Apr 30 11:24 |
| mp_en_viaje | in fact, every dollar he makes costs him more than a dollar. however he misrepresents this fact to himself. | Apr 30 11:24 |
| schestowitz | right | Apr 30 11:25 |
| mp_en_viaje | well, so then there's a difference between the profit motive (i'm not going to drive 50 miles to fill the tank a cent cheaper per gallon, it's not profitable) and sheer idiocy (ima sell dad's shoes for cheap) | Apr 30 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Societal cost isn't just economic though | Apr 30 11:26 |
| mp_en_viaje | profit motive nude and rude is the basis of what little sanity's left in the world. | Apr 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz | the examples you provided boil down to currency alone | Apr 30 11:26 |
| mp_en_viaje | so give some others. | Apr 30 11:26 |
| schestowitz | human pain might be one measurable attribute, or contrariwise happiness | Apr 30 11:27 |
| mp_en_viaje | "the avoidance of pain can never be the point of policy ; for the simplest solution to this problem is just killing everyone." | Apr 30 11:27 |
| schestowitz | source? | Apr 30 11:28 |
| mp_en_viaje | < | Apr 30 11:28 |
| schestowitz | a bit simplistic | Apr 30 11:28 |
| schestowitz | if not nihilistic | Apr 30 11:28 |
| mp_en_viaje | it's a matter of fact, though. (poincare -- not the scientist, his brother, the politician -- also said something very similar) | Apr 30 11:29 |
| schestowitz | profit is a debt system | Apr 30 11:30 |
| schestowitz | debt is existent in nature | Apr 30 11:30 |
| schestowitz | but humans take it further, to greater scale | Apr 30 11:30 |
| mp_en_viaje | i don't follow that. | Apr 30 11:30 |
| schestowitz | so if you strive for profit but have nobody left, then it defeats its very creator | Apr 30 11:30 |
| schestowitz | monkeys have debt too | Apr 30 11:31 |
| schestowitz | owing favours and such | Apr 30 11:31 |
| schestowitz | of queen termites | Apr 30 11:31 |
| schestowitz | but money is a made-man abstraction | Apr 30 11:31 |
| schestowitz | for 'indebtitude' | Apr 30 11:31 |
| schestowitz | so profit without any humans would be like a bug devouring its host | Apr 30 11:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | i do not agree. | Apr 30 11:32 |
| schestowitz | "look, I got a whole bunch of lumber here, but people are all starving" | Apr 30 11:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | money predates humans, and exists independently of any human agency, much like truth or beauty. | Apr 30 11:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | or infinitesimal calculus. | Apr 30 11:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | people's notion of physics, much like people's notion of astronomy, or money, or whatever other imanent, is always wrong and could occasionally be improving. but the things that are are. | Apr 30 11:33 |
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| schestowitz | where was money before humans? | Apr 30 11:34 |
| schestowitz | (where by money I mean tokenised currency for bartering) | Apr 30 11:34 |
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| mp_en_viaje | "there was physics before humans ? where by physics i mean foucault's pendulum ?" | Apr 30 11:35 |
| mp_en_viaje | you don't get to mean that. but yes, there's been money from the very beginning. | Apr 30 11:35 |
| mp_en_viaje | the atp cycle's a fine example of money before humans. | Apr 30 11:35 |
| schestowitz | not familiar with it | Apr 30 11:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | all life rests on the successive oxidation and then reduction of adenosine triphosphate. it's a complex organic molecule. | Apr 30 11:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | plays a role in your feeling of "tiredness" after exertion. your muscles being sore's called "oxygen debt" because the similarity's striking to the biology-familiar. | Apr 30 11:44 |
| schestowitz | I think it is still a stretch calling that "money" | Apr 30 11:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | and why ? | Apr 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz | money as we know about it now is a deposit of labour | Apr 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz | wherein you manage how much one is owed, entitled to etc. | Apr 30 11:47 |
| mp_en_viaje | we do not agree on this test ; nevertheless the atp molecule passes it ; and passes it better than any fiat currency. | Apr 30 11:47 |
| mp_en_viaje | passes it as well as the old specie currency did. | Apr 30 11:47 |
| schestowitz | the body works at a localised scale. I sometimes use the term "sleep debt"... | Apr 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Like, if I oversleep one night and deprive myself the next | Apr 30 11:48 |
| mp_en_viaje | this concept of "localised scale" will have to be introduced, it doesn't seem to mean anything. | Apr 30 11:48 |
| mp_en_viaje | all interaction is "localised scale", physics does not permit udp style one-to-all packeting. | Apr 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz | udp gets copied | Apr 30 11:48 |
| schestowitz | then split | Apr 30 11:49 |
| mp_en_viaje | right. | Apr 30 11:49 |
| mp_en_viaje | specifically because no such thing as that concept can exist in the world. | Apr 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz | the replication means many come into existence in the process | Apr 30 11:49 |
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| schestowitz | unmanbearpig familiar freenode username, for ages ago | Apr 30 11:58 |
| schestowitz | *from ages ago | Apr 30 11:58 |
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| mp_en_viaje | seinfeld fan, i guess | Apr 30 11:59 |
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| XRevan86 | If ATP is like currency, I can get richer by having more of it | Apr 30 12:03 |
| mp_en_viaje | with all the problems being richer brings, such as becoming heavy. | Apr 30 12:04 |
| mp_en_viaje | but, yes. | Apr 30 12:04 |
| XRevan86 | And then I can exchange my ATP for other goods. | Apr 30 12:04 |
| mp_en_viaje | quite. for instance, if you get big tits, and heavy hips, you get a better pick of the available dick. | Apr 30 12:04 |
| mp_en_viaje | in any case you can exchange it for safety ; as it powers running away. | Apr 30 12:05 |
| XRevan86 | That still sounds more like a powerful tool than currency. | Apr 30 12:06 |
| mp_en_viaje | but just like in the case of other attempts to concretely implement money, the exchange's more important than the storage. which is why most live things recicle ~their body weight worth of atp each day. | Apr 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | [12:04] <mp_en_viaje> quite. for instance, if you get big tits, and heavy hips, you get a better pick of the available dick. | Apr 30 12:06 |
| mp_en_viaje | all practical implementations of money are powerful tools. | Apr 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | it shortens your life | Apr 30 12:06 |
| schestowitz | so there's a multi-faceted aspect at play | Apr 30 12:07 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, "life" is ambiguous here. it shortens your life in the sense of time, but it intensifies it in sense of quality. would you rather live a century as a 100 year-old, or twenty years as a 20 yo ? | Apr 30 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: A perfect analogy for goons killing for one's currency, he-he. | Apr 30 12:07 |
| schestowitz | mp_en_viaje: that's a whoole 'nother philosophical debate, such as goal or essence of life, or living. | Apr 30 12:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | sure. | Apr 30 12:08 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Anyone would rather live a balanced most effective life rather than either. | Apr 30 12:08 |
| schestowitz | I'm tight on money because we choose not to have kids, nobody to pass money to | Apr 30 12:08 |
| XRevan86 | A false dilemma. | Apr 30 12:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | money has more functions than that schestowitz ; having a little money is mostly about consumption ; but having a lot of money is mostly about directing the activity of the other humans. | Apr 30 12:09 |
| XRevan86 | So, governing power. | Apr 30 12:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | i don't intend to have kids either ; but even if i impregnated my entire harem so each girl's pregnant each year from now on, i'd make ~no difference towards my billions. | Apr 30 12:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | nor would i leave the kids any of it. let them fucking earn their own, what. | Apr 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | how old are you btw? | Apr 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | (to mp_en_viaje) | Apr 30 12:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | bout 40. | Apr 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | 37 myself | Apr 30 12:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | cheers. | Apr 30 12:11 |
| schestowitz | anyway, that's like halfway | Apr 30 12:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | halfway what ? | Apr 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | with the world getting harsher economically | Apr 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | expected lifespan for people in Europe | Apr 30 12:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | i mostly live in costa rica ; but that aside, i spent most of my youth doubting i'll make it to 25 | Apr 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | I often laugh at politicians | Apr 30 12:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | so imo it's more like time-and-a-half. | Apr 30 12:12 |
| schestowitz | who draw up policy for everyone when they have less than 10 years left to live | Apr 30 12:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | i often laught at females who think they're "public persons" but never stood nude before a camera. | Apr 30 12:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | there's a lot of this "i'm so insecure i gotta pester people". | Apr 30 12:14 |
| XRevan86 | Russian politicians figured the best pension time is a few years after the average expected life expectancy. | Apr 30 12:14 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | don't worry, the church says God will reard your in Heaven | Apr 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | *reward | Apr 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | *you | Apr 30 12:16 |
| schestowitz | if you die before your pension, it's actually a blessing. Fast lane to heaven, no waiting in line | Apr 30 12:17 |
| mp_en_viaje | heh. | Apr 30 12:20 |
| mp_en_viaje | oh, anyone here know christos ballas ? kept a site, "thelastphyschiatrist" | Apr 30 12:24 |
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| mp_en_viaje | anyway, i'll be taking off now ; before i go : schestowitz i suppose all the systems development around ada going on in tmsr will probably interest you, judging by your professional field. | Apr 30 12:27 |
| schestowitz | which is it? | Apr 30 12:27 |
| schestowitz | I work in medical imaging etc. | Apr 30 12:27 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: As I understood it, you're critical of the idea of a socialist state. Why? | Apr 30 12:28 |
| schestowitz | (not full time because of techrights etc.) | Apr 30 12:28 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, because any group ever confronts a simple dilemma : either hang the common man to support the exceptional man, or else hang the exceptional man to support the common man. as i don't believe the common man has any rights, i don't abide the contrary ideology. | Apr 30 12:29 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, "computing stack that works reliably and predictably", let's say. | Apr 30 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: And I always felt that my having no rights as a common man is a bug than a feature. | Apr 30 12:29 |
| mp_en_viaje | no, it's a feature. | Apr 30 12:30 |
| *XRevan86 will vote for Putin from now on. | Apr 30 12:30 | |
| mp_en_viaje | for that matter, common man even having a voice is a rather exceptional historic accident. | Apr 30 12:30 |
| schestowitz | [12:29] <mp_en_viaje> schestowitz, "computing stack that works reliably and predictably", let's say. | Apr 30 12:31 |
| schestowitz | we lost that mostly | Apr 30 12:31 |
| mp_en_viaje | well, part of what the republic's doing is reconstructing it. | Apr 30 12:31 |
| schestowitz | even Linux is compromised now | Apr 30 12:31 |
| mp_en_viaje | hence cuntoo etc. | Apr 30 12:31 |
| mp_en_viaje | no, i know. | Apr 30 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: But seriously, common man is many and they want to be included. | Apr 30 12:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | not that it matters. | Apr 30 12:32 |
| mp_en_viaje | as the old adage goes, "want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first" | Apr 30 12:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14736608#348ddce04a1f01373c802986f53bbfc6 | Apr 30 12:32 |
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| mp_en_viaje | this "many" thing briefly carried some water because industrial revolution briefly made all hands useful, so we ended up with concepts such as "employment" etcetera. | Apr 30 12:33 |
| mp_en_viaje | this is nonsense, and its existence as brief as any other algae bloom. | Apr 30 12:33 |
| mp_en_viaje | most hands are not at all useful, which is why feudalism is the stable mode of social organisation. | Apr 30 12:34 |
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| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, linux lost all appeal within the republican forum with that idiotic "rule of conduct" or w/e bs. we don't tolerate femstate bullshit. | Apr 30 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: The world won't be able to progress on a select few alone. | Apr 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | who is we and this republican forum? | Apr 30 12:36 |
| schestowitz | btw, the coc isn't about females | Apr 30 12:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, history is the story of the life of great men, and naught else. as per carlyle etc. | Apr 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | corporate controlled disguised using minorities | Apr 30 12:37 |
| schestowitz | in soft dev females are a minority | Apr 30 12:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | there's been 0 progress since the prussians came up with "pensions" and the rest of the inept bs trying to whip the plebs into a state-army. | Apr 30 12:37 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: If history is selective, doesn't mean that nothing else happened at all. | Apr 30 12:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, i'm aware. | Apr 30 12:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | "we" is the most serene republic, http://trilema.com/2016/cia-factbook-the-most-serene-republic/ | Apr 30 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CIA Factbook : The Most Serene Republic on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 12:38 | |
| mp_en_viaje | the forum's mostly over at #trilema. | Apr 30 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | ok... | Apr 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz | well, looks anything but serene if there's sextortio | Apr 30 12:38 |
| schestowitz | *n | Apr 30 12:39 |
| mp_en_viaje | wth is a sextortion ? | Apr 30 12:39 |
| mp_en_viaje | "serene" is simply the attribute of sovereignity, that's what you call a sovereign. | Apr 30 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Sounds ancap'ish | Apr 30 12:40 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, "the most serene republic of bitcoin". | Apr 30 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: So, an anarcho-capitalist community around cryptocurrency? | Apr 30 12:40 |
| mp_en_viaje | well,no. the world's only sovereign. | Apr 30 12:40 |
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| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: That's cryptic. | Apr 30 12:41 |
| mp_en_viaje | why ? | Apr 30 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Clearly you're working with your own definition of "sovereign". | Apr 30 12:42 |
| mp_en_viaje | it's simply the only entity that needs no one's permission, but whose permission any other entity needs. | Apr 30 12:42 |
| mp_en_viaje | what's yours ? | Apr 30 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: I don't need its permission though. | Apr 30 12:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | "owner of all things", whatever you work with, they all reduce to the same. | Apr 30 12:43 |
| XRevan86 | and I'm in the world | Apr 30 12:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | of course you do. | Apr 30 12:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | looky, pretense to the contrary doesn't enact reality. | Apr 30 12:43 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Well, it is you who pretend to have power over everyone though %). | Apr 30 12:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | this'd be obviously enough a matter of ideological investment. | Apr 30 12:44 |
| mp_en_viaje | in the end, this is exactly what nationality is : the citizenry sees the truth in the rights of the state ; the barbarians outside the borders pretend otherwise. | Apr 30 12:44 |
| schestowitz | going against the world is too hard | Apr 30 12:44 |
| XRevan86 | But it is nice to finally meet one of the reptiloids of ZOG :D. | Apr 30 12:44 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, so far it's mostly been too much fun. | Apr 30 12:45 |
| schestowitz | you are better off changing it, little by little, for the better | Apr 30 12:45 |
| mp_en_viaje | this is the common wisdom, but so far not my experience. | Apr 30 12:45 |
| schestowitz | it's harder | Apr 30 12:45 |
| schestowitz | but there's more of "us" than "them" | Apr 30 12:45 |
| schestowitz | you can discredit their social constructs | Apr 30 12:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | i suspect this is true. | Apr 30 12:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | ah, that part's been working wonderfully. | Apr 30 12:46 |
| schestowitz | which weakens their grip over everyone, as should be the case... | Apr 30 12:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | aaanyways, we'll have to table this discussion for a later date, ima go hang out with the girls. | Apr 30 12:46 |
| mp_en_viaje | cheers. | Apr 30 12:46 |
| schestowitz | ta ra | Apr 30 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: have fun | Apr 30 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: so much posing | Apr 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | not dumb, but a posing extraordinaire | Apr 30 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: a mcafee | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | costa rica | Apr 30 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also provocative. | Apr 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz | attention craves | Apr 30 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | Pity he ignored my Putin bait. Would be an interesting read on why a Russian common person having no rights is not a bad thing (: | Apr 30 13:12 |
| schestowitz | reminds me of some people I wish not to associate with, they also waste time | Apr 30 13:13 |
| schestowitz | but he seemed to have come here for some reason to type endlessly | Apr 30 13:13 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't think he's just passing by. | Apr 30 13:15 |
| schestowitz | looks like a troublemaker | Apr 30 13:15 |
| XRevan86 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Apr 30 13:16 |
| schestowitz | openbsd took money from a possible cracker | Apr 30 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He avoided offending either of us directly. | Apr 30 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: IIRC, it was anonymous (and unconditional) back then. | Apr 30 13:18 |
| XRevan86 | OpenBSD was in a critical state, so I can hardly blame them. | Apr 30 13:18 |
| schestowitz | de raadt | Apr 30 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is he Pineapple Fund? | Apr 30 13:25 |
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| schestowitz | could be | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | pipeapple is still anon afaik | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | gave a lot to FSF | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | if techrights was ever to be granted such a thing, we'd be able to do the site full time (I work fulltime to cover bills) | Apr 30 13:27 |
| XRevan86 | > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/20/openbsd_bailed_out/ << can start say there. | Apr 30 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Romanian Bitcoin baron 'stumps up $20k to keep OpenBSD's lights on' • The Register | Apr 30 13:28 | |
| XRevan86 | No mention of Pineapple, so I guess not… | Apr 30 13:28 |
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| XRevan86 | and Pineapple Fund donated $50 000 to OpenBSD. | Apr 30 13:31 |
| XRevan86 | hence I've confused the two | Apr 30 13:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=139024405231116 | Apr 30 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marc.info | 'OpenBSD Foundation Fundraising for 2014' - MARC | Apr 30 13:33 | |
| XRevan86 | But yes, they asked for $20 000 to cover the bills: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138972987203440 | Apr 30 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marc.info | 'Re: Request for Funding our Electricity' - MARC | Apr 30 13:35 | |
| XRevan86 | and that's when mp_en_viaje marched in | Apr 30 13:36 |
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| XRevan86 | > if techrights was ever to be granted such a thing, we'd be able to do the site full time | Apr 30 13:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Probably not mp_en_viaje. | Apr 30 13:59 |
| XRevan86 | wouldn't look good | Apr 30 13:59 |
| ---MinceR gives voice to mmu_man scientes SopaXorzTaker amarsh04 | Apr 30 14:14 | |
| schestowitz | Re: uk has gone full on stupid> up to 15 years for viewing propaganda online. | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > ready to impeach may yet? | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > youre living in russia now. im sorry, i used to live there as well. its | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | > covered on el reg. | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | social disorder if not breakdown will lead to more such measures, in due course. | Apr 30 14:15 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I meant pineapple | Apr 30 14:16 |
| schestowitz | the FSF funder | Apr 30 14:16 |
| XRevan86 | What's el reg.? | Apr 30 14:16 |
| schestowitz | The Register | Apr 30 14:16 |
| schestowitz | it's its nickname for ages | Apr 30 14:16 |
| MinceR | have trolls started using url shorteners to trick uk residents into viewing terrorist propaganda and then reporting them to the authorities yet? | Apr 30 14:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ah, comprende | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > hmm, i guess it went that stupid in mid february. | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > have the arrests started? can you imagine being julian assange under | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > such a law? | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > ill never do business with britain again. of course, that doesnt include | Apr 30 14:17 |
| schestowitz | > organisations that arent working for profit, or the rare real news | Apr 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | > websites like techrights. | Apr 30 14:18 |
| schestowitz | techrights is hosted from the US. tuxmachines likewise. In terms of free speech the EU/UK isn't strong at the moment. Iceland and Switzerland a little better. | Apr 30 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | > youre living in russia now | Apr 30 14:18 |
| XRevan86 | Whom is that about? | Apr 30 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Really it was always only time until governments started catching up with the internet. | Apr 30 14:19 |
| XRevan86 | Snowden? | Apr 30 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Really Snowden information he leaked USA legal have never allows first amendment on that stuff | Apr 30 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Some ways Russia and USA free speech restrictions have never been that different. | Apr 30 14:20 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no, it's a quote | Apr 30 14:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: us still quite liberal in the free speech sense | Apr 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz | you can literally see even nazis protected by police | Apr 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz | and site takedowns are mostly limited to copyright | Apr 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz | EU has gotten not much/any better | Apr 30 14:23 |
| schestowitz | UK even worse than the rest of the EU | Apr 30 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: In Russia persons can be arrested on peaceful sanctioned protests. | Apr 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz | or for calling putin "fuckwit" on the Web | Apr 30 14:24 |
| schestowitz | (fined at least) | Apr 30 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Police are often initiators of violence | Apr 30 14:24 |
| XRevan86 | The US doesn't even come close to our shitshow. | Apr 30 14:25 |
| MinceR | promoting BDS is illegal in the US, though | Apr 30 14:26 |
| schestowitz | not yet | Apr 30 14:26 |
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| schestowitz | spammers back? | Apr 30 14:28 |
| MinceR | and in the CoE, the ECHR rules religious people getting offended as being more important than human rights, including freedom of speech | Apr 30 14:28 |
| XRevan86 | Pickets don't need to be santioned in Russia, yet picketeers are constantly being detained if there's anything remotely oppositional in them. | Apr 30 14:28 |
| MinceR | there were some new spambots on OFTC | Apr 30 14:28 |
| MinceR | they registered their nicks, joined, sent a bunch of lines and stayed in the channel | Apr 30 14:28 |
| schestowitz | so what is Mo fucked kids? I guess his followers care more about their religion than those kids. | Apr 30 14:28 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: USA law sucks more than you think. Russia you are detained. USA if police officer can claim he thought you were a possible threat and shot you dead its legal. | Apr 30 14:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://zona.media/news/2019/04/30/obmanul the very latest | Apr 30 14:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | В Москве задержали отставного майора ракетных войск с плакатом «Меня обманул Путин. Голодовка» | Apr 30 14:28 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so over all not that much difference on protest other than the russia one you are mostly alive and the USA one you are dead. | Apr 30 14:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: In Russia they'd just beat you up. And they don't have to explain it. | Apr 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe they work for discord and slack | Apr 30 14:29 |
| schestowitz | mission; sabotage irc | Apr 30 14:29 |
| XRevan86 | even lethally | Apr 30 14:29 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: criminals do get beaten in the USA in legal ways. | Apr 30 14:30 |
| MinceR | looked more like some sort of attacks on characters of people | Apr 30 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | There are people who got killed after being detained. | Apr 30 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | not even charged with anything | Apr 30 14:31 |
| MinceR | i wonder if dicksword and slack could really be that stupid, aggravating people until some DDoS kids take their services down for days | Apr 30 14:31 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: same in the USA. | Apr 30 14:31 |
| oiaohm | http://rowetel.com/downloads/lca_2012_codec2.odp Its like page 32 of this presentation about australian laws. Low bandwidth using audio codec turns out by Australian law to be in the same class as a nuke weapon???? | Apr 30 14:33 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: laws all over the place with by police can be used todo all kinds of horrible. | Apr 30 14:33 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/apr/13/how-many-die-each-year-prisons/ Most of the USA deaths jails happen before the person is charged with anything. | Apr 30 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How many people die each year in the American prison system? • MuckRock | Apr 30 14:37 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: so the most dangerous time is when you are detained without charge. | Apr 30 14:37 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That explains why Trump feels Russia and the US have so much in common (did he say that? I think he did) | Apr 30 14:37 |
| oiaohm | He did. | Apr 30 14:38 |
| oiaohm | Remember Russia police don't have the legal right to shot you dead and claimed they believed you were a threat and it be a legal killing. | Apr 30 14:39 |
| oiaohm | USA police do have that legal right. | Apr 30 14:39 |
| oiaohm | So USA police legally are some of the most dangerous. | Apr 30 14:39 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: It's not like they need to have that formal right here in Russia. | Apr 30 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Kind of explains why USA police at times are willing to expend of rounds all over the place. | Apr 30 14:40 |
| XRevan86 | they manage | Apr 30 14:40 |
| oiaohm | They just have to claim they though anyone the hit by mistake was considered a threat at the time. | Apr 30 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Russian cases it is at least techically illegal. | Apr 30 14:41 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Russian police doesn't like shooting people | Apr 30 14:41 |
| XRevan86 | surrounding and beating with legs – now that's satisfying | Apr 30 14:42 |
| oiaohm | USA police also beat them up at times. | Apr 30 14:42 |
| oiaohm | and some case kill them after so they cannot complain. | Apr 30 14:42 |
| oiaohm | That in the USA statistics. USA police force by stats make Russia police look well behaved. | Apr 30 14:43 |
| MinceR | i guess ammo is too expensive in russia | Apr 30 14:44 |
| schestowitz | lol | Apr 30 14:45 |
| schestowitz | "save bullets, use expired nukes instead" | Apr 30 14:45 |
| MinceR | plus the people are less armed | Apr 30 14:45 |
| MinceR | it's safer to kick people to death if they don't shoot | Apr 30 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Armed is not exactly it. | Apr 30 14:46 |
| oiaohm | https://aic.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases-and-statements/latest-deaths-custody-data-now-available-crime-statistics-austalia Australia has the dead before being charged to almost zero. | Apr 30 14:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aic.gov.au | Latest deaths in custody data now available on Crime Statistics Austalia | Australian Institute of Criminology | Apr 30 14:46 | |
| oiaohm | Most of the deaths in Australian jails is natural mediacal deaths. | Apr 30 14:46 |
| MinceR | and australia disarmed its citizens long ago | Apr 30 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Citizens armed with cameras instead with a legal system that worked against the police turns out to be highly effective at improving these numbers. | Apr 30 14:48 |
| MinceR | until they ban the cameras | Apr 30 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Some of the reason why USA police can get away with killing so many people is the fact they can claim they suspected a firearm. | Apr 30 14:49 |
| oiaohm | Where in Australia with the low weapon rate they cannot straight up claim that. | Apr 30 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Right to bare arms works in favor of police doing straight up fatal on bystanders. | Apr 30 14:51 |
| MinceR | authorities often get away with claiming incredible things | Apr 30 14:51 |
| MinceR | how often do police in switzerland shoot people? | Apr 30 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Please note switzerland don't have open right to bare arms. If you are armed you have to be open carry ie you have to be able to clearly see it in switzerland. | Apr 30 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Basically the USA right to bare arms including more hidden forms give police more excuses to shot. | Apr 30 14:54 |
| MinceR | so it's concealed carry you have an issue with, not right to bear arms | Apr 30 14:54 |
| oiaohm | By the stats yes. But lot of the USA use the right to bare arms to have forms of concealed carry. | Apr 30 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Registered security guard in uniform or police officer are the only parties allowed legally to concealed carry in Australia. Switzerland is the same in this reguard and both have very low police shotting non criminals. | Apr 30 14:58 |
| MinceR | another way to solve this problem would be to get rid of polcie | Apr 30 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Also you have to remember Switzerland mandatory military service so before you get a firearm as citizen you have spent over 12 months under military supervision weeding out your personality if you should or should not have a gun. | Apr 30 15:02 |
| MinceR | s/ci/ic/ | Apr 30 15:02 |
| MinceR | i wonder what sort of personality would that be | Apr 30 15:03 |
| MinceR | other than being careless and incompetent with a weapon | Apr 30 15:03 |
| oiaohm | About 15 percent of the Switzerland population fail in their year of military service and are legally never able to buy/hold a gun. | Apr 30 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Some is incompetent some is aggression and other problematic personality traits. | Apr 30 15:05 |
| oiaohm | Yes Switzerland has higher gun ownership than the USA but they have a heavy screening process. | Apr 30 15:06 |
| MinceR | and what is considered problematic? critical thinking? | Apr 30 15:06 |
| MinceR | or having a different religion or no religion? | Apr 30 15:06 |
| oiaohm | Lack of critical thinking is one. Ie you get mad you straight up attack something without thinking you could fail to be safe with a gun so you are not having one. | Apr 30 15:07 |
| oiaohm | Religion is not a factor. | Apr 30 15:07 |
| oiaohm | When you think about mil basic training they really do get to push all a person different buttons to see how they will respond. | Apr 30 15:08 |
| MinceR | or they are placed under the power of some worthless authoritarian nutcase | Apr 30 15:08 |
| MinceR | like in hungary | Apr 30 15:09 |
| oiaohm | Failing military service on mental grounds fairly much blocks you from running for office in Switzerland as well. | Apr 30 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Its a really heavy screened population. | Apr 30 15:10 |
| MinceR | interesting | Apr 30 15:10 |
| MinceR | so the military decides who gets to run for office | Apr 30 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Not who. | Apr 30 15:10 |
| oiaohm | as such. | Apr 30 15:10 |
| MinceR | right, they need to provide excuses | Apr 30 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Remember 85% pass. | Apr 30 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Most of the population passes without issue. | Apr 30 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Like being dumb enough to loss your cool and attempt punch out your commanding officer in basic training or other equally highly stupid things is going to get you in that 15% | Apr 30 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Having a medical condition that you cannot do basic training you could die in office as well from it. | Apr 30 15:13 |
| MinceR | i never suspected Starship Troopers was about Switzerland | Apr 30 15:13 |
| MinceR | "Would you like to know more?" | Apr 30 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly mil rank in Starship troopers decide how far you got up in the political thing. | Apr 30 15:14 |
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| oiaohm | there is no alignment between rank and political in Switzerland. Its just passing basic training and the basic first year stuff. | Apr 30 15:15 |
| MinceR | yeah, got to serve in the military so you become a citizen :> | Apr 30 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Really passing basic training is not insanely hard if you are not a hot head or other equal mental issues. | Apr 30 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Note the 15 percent still have all the other rights of a citizen like voting and the like. | Apr 30 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Starship troopers is absolutely horrible were no basic rights without service in most cases. | Apr 30 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Really the trouble making personality percentage is not that large. The effective screening process for it takes at least 90 days. | Apr 30 15:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, the ones who would change something are the "troublemakers" | Apr 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | better keep them out of power | Apr 30 15:20 |
| MinceR | helps keep those pesky human rights out | Apr 30 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Please note I said trouble making personality. Switzerland in the 85% have the highly thinking trouble makers. For mil combat you need those who can think out the box. | Apr 30 15:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, people in positions of authority love people who can think out of the box | Apr 30 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Then ones you don't want are the ones that painic. | Apr 30 15:21 |
| oiaohm | or go nuts out of anger. | Apr 30 15:22 |
| oiaohm | The people the mil wants to function well are normally the worst ones for the political side to deal with. | Apr 30 15:22 |
| MinceR | ...is what they would like you to believe. | Apr 30 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Lot of historic major activist like Mahatma Gandhi were military trained. Think about it organizing a force to fight with weapons is not much different to organizing a peaceful protest. | Apr 30 15:25 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the thing you have not considered is the skills 12 months of military service have given the general population. Yes it filters out percentage but in also does the reverse of making the ones that pass able to be more politically effective. | Apr 30 15:27 |
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| MinceR | it's not the percentage that is the problem | Apr 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | the problem is who gets to decide who is electable | Apr 30 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Remember people with criminal convictions cannot stand for office in the USA either. The 12 months mil service is basically the same you have to do something wrong face a board of your peers and get convicted and kicked out. | Apr 30 15:34 |
| oiaohm | But remember basic training is designed to push a person buttons to make that happen if it going to happen. | Apr 30 15:34 |
| oiaohm | You can basically pack a lifetime of different triggers that could get someone todo something criminal into 90 days. | Apr 30 15:35 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so it in lot of ways basic training it yourself that decided if you are electable or not. | Apr 30 15:36 |
| oiaohm | The lack of sleep part of basic training also reduced you ablity to hide flaws. | Apr 30 15:37 |
| MinceR | no, criminal conviction and doing badly in basic training are very different things | Apr 30 15:44 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: the reality there is not much difference. The same things that cause people to get criminal convictions cause them to completely fail basic training. | Apr 30 16:01 |
| MinceR | which is what military leaders would very much like everyone to believe | Apr 30 16:02 |
| MinceR | and of course if there's a small difference, who cares | Apr 30 16:02 |
| MinceR | it's not like you wanted democracy or rule of law anyway | Apr 30 16:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://i.ytimg.com/vi/g3kMQJDXHRg/hqdefault.jpg military basic training | Apr 30 16:02 |
| MinceR | what's going on in that photo? | Apr 30 16:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's from an art-house film Green Elephant | Apr 30 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | an attempt to clean a toilet with a fork | Apr 30 16:03 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 30 16:03 |
| oiaohm | Stupid as it sounds it is possible if you think about the problem the right way. | Apr 30 16:04 |
| MinceR | right | Apr 30 16:04 |
| MinceR | who cares about doing things the right way, or putting the right people in charge | Apr 30 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/UhktQtcE0Ns in a video format | Apr 30 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Как чистить унитаз вилкой - YouTube | Apr 30 16:04 | |
| MinceR | when you can do it all ass backwards and claim that there isn't much difference anyway | Apr 30 16:04 |
| MinceR | OTOH i'm starting to see what sorts of sources the nazis found here when they found excuses for their new constitution and stuff like that | Apr 30 16:08 |
| MinceR | there's all sorts of fucked up laws and practices if you look hard enough | Apr 30 16:08 |
| MinceR | just not all of them in the same country | Apr 30 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | https://greenelephantmaine.com/ lol | Apr 30 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-greenelephantmaine.com | Green Elephant | Asian Inspired Vegetarian Bistro | Apr 30 16:09 | |
| XRevan86 | A fork in the logo, this got to be intentional. | Apr 30 16:09 |
| oiaohm | Its a thing called improvisation. That video I think the way they set that up you are kind of screwed. Fork+the tollet paper and you are kind of in business to clean the tollet. | Apr 30 16:09 |
| oiaohm | of course if you are not thinking of problem at hand you blow you top because it seams stupid. | Apr 30 16:10 |
| MinceR | "trust me, there's a point to all this" | Apr 30 16:11 |
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| oiaohm | Lot of military training basic training seams like stupid things. Lot of it is intentional. To see if you will work as a team. See if you will lose cool. Really given a fork and told to clean tollet is just extream verson of being given a different tool to do job than you are expecting. | Apr 30 16:15 |
| oiaohm | Either you will react with anger, confusion or logic. | Apr 30 16:16 |
| oiaohm | Confusion/logic is ok. Anger not. | Apr 30 16:16 |
| MinceR | lack of transparency is something that breaks a democracy | Apr 30 16:17 |
| oiaohm | Most military basic training is highly documented. Methods used to weed out in places like Switzerland are open to the public. | Apr 30 16:19 |
| oiaohm | So its not lack of transparency. | Apr 30 16:19 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suslik another English word, da | Apr 30 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | suslik - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:20 | |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dvornik#English really? | Apr 30 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | dvornik - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:22 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: ok you are now doing words I have never seen. | Apr 30 16:23 |
| oiaohm | By hey its the English mangled mess. | Apr 30 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kholop#English now that's a useful one %) | Apr 30 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | kholop - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:25 | |
| XRevan86 | (11:30:52) mp_en_viaje: for that matter, common man even having a voice is a rather exceptional historic accident. | Apr 30 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | "common man" is rather clumsy | Apr 30 16:26 |
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| XRevan86 | now "kholop" on the other hand… | Apr 30 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chinovnik#English <- a state worker | Apr 30 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | chinovnik - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:27 | |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: After I saw news that "da" was added to the Oxford Dictonary… | Apr 30 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | rather zabavno | Apr 30 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | (amusing) | Apr 30 16:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disinformation#English | Apr 30 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | disinformation - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:32 | |
| XRevan86 | Now that's an unexpected one. | Apr 30 16:33 |
| oiaohm | Not really. When modern english started. England and Russia was on good terms. | Apr 30 16:34 |
| oiaohm | And its a diplomatic language from the start collecting words from all over the place. | Apr 30 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thief_in_law#English makes sense | Apr 30 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | thief in law - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:35 | |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wolf%27s_ticket#English relevant to basic military training | Apr 30 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | wolf's ticket - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:37 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bridge#English the word bridge basically starts in russian | Apr 30 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | bridge - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:38 | |
| scientes | vor | Apr 30 16:38 |
| *scientes read Gulag | Apr 30 16:38 | |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: there are some quite common english worlds that first form is russian as well. | Apr 30 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Wiktionary doesn't agree. | Apr 30 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | but being cognate with бревно (br(y)evno, log) is plausable | Apr 30 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Archipelago? | Apr 30 16:40 |
| scientes | yes | Apr 30 16:40 |
| scientes | Arichipelag Gulga | Apr 30 16:40 |
| oiaohm | bridge was in middle english before modern english. So words coming from russia across the EU and ending up in english had been happening for quite some time. | Apr 30 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Your own link states it comes from Old English <- Proto-Germanic <- P-I-E | Apr 30 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: The Slavic word for bridge is "most" | Apr 30 16:42 |
| XRevan86 | Which is cognate to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mast#Etymology_1 | Apr 30 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | mast - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:43 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_terms_derived_from_Old_East_Slavic borrowings from Old Russian (Old East Slavic) | Apr 30 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Category:English terms derived from Old East Slavic - Wiktionary | Apr 30 16:48 | |
| XRevan86 | kremlin, hamster | Apr 30 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | + quartz from West Slavic | Apr 30 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | a whopping three words | Apr 30 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | How "quartz" got here from ~"tverdy" is curious %) | Apr 30 16:55 |
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| mp_en_viaje | hi all! | Apr 30 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: hi | Apr 30 19:00 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, are you russian btw ? | Apr 30 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Indeed I am. | Apr 30 19:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | tell me a russian joke. | Apr 30 19:02 |
| cubexyz | in soviet russia waldo finds you! | Apr 30 19:05 |
| mp_en_viaje | that is not genuine russian joke! | Apr 30 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | An Englishman, an American and a Chukcha go through a test on survival: who will survive the most without food. Each has a room with a bed, a bedside table and a telephone… | Apr 30 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | An Englishman called after three days, an American after five days. A Chukcha stays silent for ten days, twelve. The committee decided to check on him, how the winner feels. So they enter and see: Chukcha sits on their knees before the telephone and begs: "Telephona, telephona, Chukcha wants to eat". | Apr 30 19:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | ahaha | Apr 30 19:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | want one in trade ? | Apr 30 19:09 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Is it just as derogatory? | Apr 30 19:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | i expect. | Apr 30 19:09 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: shoot | Apr 30 19:09 |
| mp_en_viaje | muscovy geoglogist gets sent to chuckchistan to prospect for diamonds or w/e. the locals regard him with amused curiosity upon arrival. next morning, geologist goes prospecting, some chukcha fellows follow him at a distance. | Apr 30 19:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | a bear appears, the chukcha start running away; as they notice the dood's not following they also start yelling "now is run! now is run!" | Apr 30 19:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | geologist calmly puts his gun to shoulder, takes aim, shoots bear dead. | Apr 30 19:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | the tribe gathers around him slowly, in indignant disbelief | Apr 30 19:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | "muscovy very very bad hunter | Apr 30 19:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | who now drags bear twenty miles uphill to camp ?" | Apr 30 19:12 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Good one :) | Apr 30 19:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | yay. ty. | Apr 30 19:12 |
| *asciilifeform found this place via tuxmachines.org . wonders if the http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433 item was ever discussed there. | Apr 30 19:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.loper-os.org | Loper OS » The Google H1 Fritz Chip. | Apr 30 19:30 | |
| mp_en_viaje | o look at that, like a foss qntra. | Apr 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | asciilifeform: never heard of it | Apr 30 19:34 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, what'd it take to get you and the mrs to keep a permanent rubric on qntra rather than continue tuxmachines thing solo ? | Apr 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | can you rephrase that pls? | Apr 30 19:35 |
| asciilifeform | schestowitz: ~0 massmedia coverage re : 'h1', despite being no sort of secret ( ~100% of currently retailed google iron includes it, and i posted full schematics for talking to it ) | Apr 30 19:35 |
| XRevan86 | rubric = column | Apr 30 19:35 |
| mp_en_viaje | well, yes, like a permanent section. larger than a column. | Apr 30 19:35 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, tuxmachines is an online publication, yes ? | Apr 30 19:35 |
| schestowitz | it would be nice to grow it | Apr 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz | for 15 years now | Apr 30 19:36 |
| mp_en_viaje | so forget growing it. to quote marsellus, "if you were gonna make it, you'd have made it by now." | Apr 30 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | > and the mrs | Apr 30 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | what does that mean? | Apr 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Rianne | Apr 30 19:36 |
| mp_en_viaje | all the contribs i see are roy and rianne. | Apr 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz | the site does grow steadily | Apr 30 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | Ah, I see. | Apr 30 19:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | and ~i suspect~ that your misperceptions of editorial guideline are keeping you fettered, and away from realising your full potential. | Apr 30 19:37 |
| mp_en_viaje | whereas qntra is a much better platform in this sense. | Apr 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz | what is that? | Apr 30 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This reminds me, when Let's Encrypt? :) | Apr 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I experimented with it 2 years ago | Apr 30 19:38 |
| mp_en_viaje | schestowitz, http://qntra.net/2019/04/us-court-rules-in-favor-of-police-finger-forcing/ << the herald of tmsr. \ | Apr 30 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qntra.net | US Court Rules In Favor Of Police Finger Forcing | Qntra | Apr 30 19:38 | |
| mp_en_viaje | currently mostly doing politics/economcs/law&lawenforcement lulz and so on. | Apr 30 19:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: certbot is in EPEL | Apr 30 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I used that | Apr 30 19:39 |
| asciilifeform | since someone mentioned sslism.. | Apr 30 19:40 |
| *asciilifeform runs http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors , another tmsr product . | Apr 30 19:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phuctor.nosuchlabs.com | Welcome | Phuctor | Apr 30 19:40 | |
| schestowitz | very few people log into the site with a password | Apr 30 19:42 |
| schestowitz | but ssl would hide what nodes people look at | Apr 30 19:42 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It goes something like this: certonly --webroot -d tuxmachines.org -d www.tuxmachines.org <http://www.tuxmachines.org> -w /var/www/tuxmachines | Apr 30 19:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? | Apr 30 19:42 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I've checked the RPM package from EPEL 7 and it already has a systemd timer for periodic renewal | Apr 30 19:43 |
| mp_en_viaje | lol. | Apr 30 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: If it needs to be explicitly enabled, then systemctl enable certbot-renew.timer | Apr 30 19:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I've remembered about that, because (even optional) https:// will improve discoverability. | Apr 30 19:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: will; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// will ) | Apr 30 19:45 | |
| schestowitz | we used older centos | Apr 30 19:46 |
| schestowitz | will upgrade when it's out of life | Apr 30 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: CentOS 6? | Apr 30 19:47 |
| schestowitz | 6.x yes | Apr 30 19:47 |
| mp_en_viaje | why would you run systemd infected crap anyway. | Apr 30 19:48 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Well, that's probably the reason why he in fact\doesn't. | Apr 30 19:49 |
| mp_en_viaje | might as well go full windows, what's the point of poettering's derpy miniwindows. | Apr 30 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But techrights.org is on CentOS 7, right? | Apr 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz | yes | Apr 30 19:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Then you can do the abovementioned there :) | Apr 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz | remind me when it's a weekend or somehing | Apr 30 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: ok | Apr 30 19:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to risk breaking something | Apr 30 19:52 |
| schestowitz | we want to move off from IBM (RHT) soon | Apr 30 19:52 |
| schestowitz | kaniini has had ideas | Apr 30 19:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Devuan or Alpine? | Apr 30 19:53 |
| mp_en_viaje | i'm not gonna get an answer to that "what would it take..." am i. | Apr 30 19:53 |
| schestowitz | the goal is the site is to grow gnu/linux and free software | Apr 30 19:54 |
| schestowitz | so anything that persists in that direction would be helpful | Apr 30 19:55 |
| schestowitz | the site helps by dissemination and organisation information | Apr 30 19:55 |
| mp_en_viaje | linux is dead, as such. your choice is practically speaking beating the dead camel of your youth, or joining up with people trying to keep intellectual life possible. | Apr 30 19:55 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: not sure | Apr 30 19:55 |
| schestowitz | kaniini resigned from alpine about a month or two ago | Apr 30 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | > Welcome to Qntra! Founded in October 2014, our goal is to publish news, views and commentary related to Bitcoin. | Apr 30 19:56 |
| asciilifeform | schestowitz: how do you picture the result of 'grow' and 'dissemination' ? what do you get from 'growing' the # of idlers reading 'about linux' with bag of potato chips in 1 hand ? | Apr 30 19:56 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, everything's related to bitcoin. | Apr 30 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux is dead perhaps as a truly free kernel | Apr 30 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | many of the pertinent projects are still valuable and usable | Apr 30 19:56 |
| mp_en_viaje | no, it is dead as a going concern. | Apr 30 19:56 |
| mp_en_viaje | it's fodder for hot topic now. | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | a larger userbase of gnu/linux gives us hope of combating some digital injustices | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | but it doesn't suffice, as Android shows | Apr 30 19:57 |
| mp_en_viaje | but in cultural terms, it's dead as dead can be. | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | surveillance capitalism with Linux at the core and it's far from alone | Apr 30 19:57 |
| mp_en_viaje | linus sold out to the retard farm, and there's entirely nothing else there. | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm not as much of a "Linux" person as I am GNU | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm friends with RMS | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | and LF does not like me anymore because I speak out against their actions | Apr 30 19:58 |
| mp_en_viaje | rms sold out to the same retard farm ; only earlier and for less money. | Apr 30 19:58 |
| *XRevan86 wonders how RMS "is related to bitcoin" %) | Apr 30 19:58 | |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, you'd be surprised, but actually, he is. | Apr 30 19:59 |
| schestowitz | he said good things | Apr 30 19:59 |
| schestowitz | except on anonymity | Apr 30 19:59 |
| mp_en_viaje | schmuck showed up to prop up some early scammer for a little money. | Apr 30 19:59 |
| mp_en_viaje | he's, you know, like those doods in colloidal silver ads on usg's "opposition" tv shows. | Apr 30 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Now I have to have context for that. | Apr 30 19:59 |
| mp_en_viaje | aite, let me fish it out foer you. | Apr 30 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | Doesn't sound like RMS to me at all. | Apr 30 20:00 |
| mp_en_viaje | http://104.131.72.249/log/2012-09-16#-267417 ; the dood in question's over at http://trilema.com/2012/the-stockexchange-shareholders-on-welfare/ | Apr 30 20:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-104.131.72.249 | tmsr - Log 2012-09-16 | Apr 30 20:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The stockexchange shareholders on welfare on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 20:01 | |
| mp_en_viaje | and sure, i know it doesn't sound like rms to you. but the problem with you is that you just follow "the news", which are curated. i bet you don't know he lied about his "free laptop", for instance. cuz his owners didn't feel all that inclind to publicize that. | Apr 30 20:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | nor do you necessarily understand the strategic "miscalculations" he added to foss, so as to ensure its ultimate failure. | Apr 30 20:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | but let me ask you this, one in a hundred questions : WHY did opengl give back to directx the leadership it wrested away from it ? | Apr 30 20:02 |
| mp_en_viaje | hundreds of people donated years of their work to strangle microsoft visually ; and, but for fossineptitude, would have managed, too. then... the dead man raises up and turns the tables. really ? | Apr 30 20:03 |
| schestowitz | You don't seem to like anybody | Apr 30 20:04 |
| mp_en_viaje | i like very few people. but i daresay it's not arbitrary. | Apr 30 20:04 |
| mp_en_viaje | give me the why. why is opengl not the dominant player it should have been ? | Apr 30 20:05 |
| mp_en_viaje | it literally would have been, had everything it needed to be. directx was fucking dead. at some point we saw this, unthinkable a decade before, made fact. what happened ? | Apr 30 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Except on Android it is. | Apr 30 20:05 |
| mp_en_viaje | rms fucking happened. | Apr 30 20:05 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, right. | Apr 30 20:05 |
| XRevan86 | and now there's Vulkan. | Apr 30 20:06 |
| mp_en_viaje | entirely besides the point. we're discussing rms, and orcish leadership. | Apr 30 20:06 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: elaborate | Apr 30 20:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | you understand what this is, orcish leadership ? the thing in http://trilema.com/2011/jaful-si-economia/#selection-27.0-35.529 ; plausibly-deniable high treason. | Apr 30 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jaful si economia on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. | Apr 30 20:08 | |
| mp_en_viaje | it's what "presidents" in banana republics do. "sorta-kinda" credible leadership, with "mistakes" and "happenstance" alligned a certain way, to serve the hegemon's interests. | Apr 30 20:08 |
| mp_en_viaje | that's the "buy up the local chiefs" part. | Apr 30 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Elaborate on what you think exactly RMS had done to put OpenGL down. | Apr 30 20:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | the question's misstated. | Apr 30 20:10 |
| mp_en_viaje | if you're the crowned king and your army loses, it's not a matter of "what did you do to make it lose". either it wins, or it's your head. | Apr 30 20:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | opengl did not win, THEREFORE rms is to hang. | Apr 30 20:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | not that opengl is the only example, there's easily a dozen more. all the way down to fucking tcl. | Apr 30 20:11 |
| mp_en_viaje | tcc* | Apr 30 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: You know RMS has no real power but influence and fame, right? | Apr 30 20:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | but this is the universal rule -- either you lead your group to victory, or you go away. | Apr 30 20:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, what a cop-out. wtf is "real power" besides "influence and fame", holy hell. | Apr 30 20:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | that's all it is. | Apr 30 20:12 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Having a say on the OpenGL board, for instance. | Apr 30 20:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | influence an' fame will give you a say anywhere. | Apr 30 20:12 |
| mp_en_viaje | just have something intelligent to say. | Apr 30 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Or maybe he should've assembled an army and went to Microsoft HQ | Apr 30 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | * gone to | Apr 30 20:13 |
| mp_en_viaje | could have just beheaded anyone in said board who wasn't doing his job, why not. | Apr 30 20:13 |
| schestowitz | RMS is judges by track record | Apr 30 20:14 |
| mp_en_viaje | but no, look at what he did. got github its feet, pick a single fucking strategic move of his that serves you rather than the empire. | Apr 30 20:14 |
| schestowitz | technical and predictive accuracy | Apr 30 20:14 |
| mp_en_viaje | give me the example of correct strategic move. | Apr 30 20:14 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: So RMS should be regarded as a literal ruler with cartoon villain standards of governing. | Apr 30 20:14 |
| mp_en_viaje | you can regard it as whatever you want ; but by my lights he's evidently the shah of iran, or that ukrainian muppet, or whatever, guaio dork. whatever, "western sponsored orc ruler". | Apr 30 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | that ukrainian muppet only today came to office | Apr 30 20:16 |
| *mp_en_viaje shrugs. | Apr 30 20:16 | |
| mp_en_viaje | he's ukrainian like you're martian. | Apr 30 20:16 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: Because he's a Russophone? | Apr 30 20:17 |
| mp_en_viaje | i'm a fucking russophone, what the hell argument's that. | Apr 30 20:17 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: I don't know, feels like a "true Scotsman" | Apr 30 20:17 |
| mp_en_viaje | XRevan86, wait, you talking about poroshenko or the replacement ? | Apr 30 20:19 |
| mp_en_viaje | i was talking about the dood inaugurated by bidden. | Apr 30 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: About Zelensky | Apr 30 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | Granted Poroshenko is also a Russophone | Apr 30 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | but he didn't "only today came to office" | Apr 30 20:19 |
| mp_en_viaje | ah. no, im behind sorry. i only read newspapers after 6-12 months. | Apr 30 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | Zelensky is a comedian, so he's a muppet in a… more literal sense | Apr 30 20:20 |
| mp_en_viaje | there's more honesty in that ltieral sense, too. | Apr 30 20:20 |
| mp_en_viaje | anyway, we shall have to continue this later. | Apr 30 20:21 |
| XRevan86 | mp_en_viaje: The situation in Ukraine is a complex one. I don't see Poroshenko as a muppet. | Apr 30 20:22 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: how might one distinguish his behaviour from typical muppet of washington ? | Apr 30 20:23 |
| asciilifeform | if you say 'x != y', have to show somewhere in which x actually differs from y, 'this is not proton, this is neutron, has 0 charge' or the like | Apr 30 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: For one thing, puppets don't like their political agenda to end. | Apr 30 20:25 |
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| asciilifeform | they do get swapped out for new muppet regularly. | Apr 30 20:25 |
| asciilifeform | when they wear out. | Apr 30 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Another thing is that neither one of them has anything to gain from the US. | Apr 30 20:26 |
| asciilifeform | this creates illusion of 'agenda ended'. they have them in usa also, same algorithm. | Apr 30 20:26 |
| XRevan86 | Zelensky is "suspected" to collude with an oligarch Kolomoysky | Apr 30 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | his interests are in Ukraine | Apr 30 20:27 |
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| asciilifeform | interest of oligarch are where the money is parked, rather than the geography that he extracted it from | Apr 30 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: The closest money bin to Ukraine is Russia. | Apr 30 20:29 |
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| XRevan86 | There are shady things going on with oil transit in Ukraine. | Apr 30 20:30 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: so idea is, he keeps his in moscow and not zurich ? | Apr 30 20:30 |
| *asciilifeform cannot prove that this is not true, but it is on approx. same believability level as 'here is a dog with six legs' | Apr 30 20:31 | |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: The idea is the US being good for Ukrainian business is limited. | Apr 30 20:31 |
| asciilifeform | it's a banana republic (and without bananas) , what business. | Apr 30 20:33 |
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| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: It's a relatively large country with Soviet industrial legacy. | Apr 30 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | It's just as much a banana republic as the Russian Federation. | Apr 30 20:34 |
| asciilifeform | as i understand most of it already cut into metal and sold to foreigners | Apr 30 20:35 |
| asciilifeform | exactly like '90s ru | Apr 30 20:35 |
| asciilifeform | ( ru only still 'in business' because had more to cut and sell to start with ) | Apr 30 20:35 |
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| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Russia is still being cut and sold. | Apr 30 20:37 |
| *asciilifeform knows this | Apr 30 20:37 | |
| asciilifeform | that's what is banana republic. when the people who live there are , in economic terms, 'extra' | Apr 30 20:37 |
| asciilifeform | resource extractor does not need them for anything | Apr 30 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | Russian state-affiliated oligarchs like to re-invest elsewhere. | Apr 30 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Sounds like Russia is more of a banana republic than Ukraine. | Apr 30 20:39 |
| asciilifeform | of course. has more 'bananas'. | Apr 30 20:40 |
| XRevan86 | that we can agree on | Apr 30 20:40 |
| asciilifeform | not all petro pumped out yet, not all soviet-era specialists moved to washington yet, etc | Apr 30 20:40 |
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| asciilifeform | interest of washington in ukr is not to pump anything out as such, but to keep open wound ( and in the end get new place to put rockets, as in e.g. romania. ) | Apr 30 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | That's kind of system that was designed around cronyism and kompromat. | Apr 30 20:43 |
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| asciilifeform | re: earlier rms -- i am curious over what 'he has influence.' first he lost hurd, and let usurper linus into driver's seat , who then compromised with enemy ( permitted closed drivers for iron, and today even more interesting things ) . then rms lost control of even his original softwares - gcc, emacs, went to enemy. | Apr 30 20:52 |
| asciilifeform | exactly analogous to shah of iran. sits on throne, while country walked away. | Apr 30 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: He *has* control over GNU. | Apr 30 20:53 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: when was last time he sued in court a gpl violator and won ? | Apr 30 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: And I meant it in a way of him being heard. | Apr 30 20:54 |
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| asciilifeform | or , for instance, where today can buy computer on which can run 100% gpl stack ? he let this, also, walk away. | Apr 30 20:56 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: What did you expect him to do? | Apr 30 20:56 |
| XRevan86 | buy a computer manufacturer? | Apr 30 20:56 |
| asciilifeform | organize hardware manufacture, yes | Apr 30 20:57 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Not an easy feat. He's not the only one with this goal, yet somehow… | Apr 30 20:58 |
| asciilifeform | mp_en_viaje and asciilifeform , did it. started with small device, http://nosuchlabs.com/hardware.html ; in not too long will make own silicon | Apr 30 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nosuchlabs.com | No Such lAbs | Apr 30 20:59 | |
| asciilifeform | it isn't impossible to do, and actually cheap in comparison to some of the ineffective works of rms & co. | Apr 30 20:59 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: you can have a reasonably modern chip made for cost of toyota. | Apr 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: I'll stay sceptical for now. | Apr 30 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: And who will care about it? | Apr 30 21:00 |
| asciilifeform | plenty of people, who don't want washington in their comp. the smarter bitcoin users, for example. | Apr 30 21:01 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: A random number generator… | Apr 30 21:02 |
| asciilifeform | we sold out 2 print runs of FG device, which is much more specialized ( i wasn't certain anyone would buy at all, when designed it ) | Apr 30 21:02 |
| XRevan86 | only a millimetre away from a modern laptop | Apr 30 21:02 |
| asciilifeform | and whole centimetre away from space station, yes | Apr 30 21:03 |
| asciilifeform | for some reason the 'free soft' people are chronically allergic to entire idea of making iron | Apr 30 21:04 |
| asciilifeform | large or small | Apr 30 21:04 |
| asciilifeform | imho this is mistake. | Apr 30 21:04 |
| asciilifeform | if they had started with iron, we would not today have the idiocy with 'closed driver', microshit 'secure boot', etc. | Apr 30 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: It is not like no attempts were made. | Apr 30 21:05 |
| asciilifeform | i'm not aware of any attempts ( will not count the idiocy with ibm cpu ) | Apr 30 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | including upcoming Librem devices | Apr 30 21:06 |
| asciilifeform | did they promise a machine where full source of cpu, chipset, etc. is public ? | Apr 30 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | not completely free, but a… | Apr 30 21:06 |
| asciilifeform | as in, i can go to taiwan and have it made | Apr 30 21:06 |
| asciilifeform | if not, then no attempt. | Apr 30 21:06 |
| asciilifeform | 'not completely free' is like 'not completely pregnant' | Apr 30 21:07 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: By the way, what do you think about Elbrus? | Apr 30 21:07 |
| asciilifeform | i've been trying to buy one for several years now. and with help of mp_en_viaje. so far 0 result. | Apr 30 21:08 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Or more to the FOSS point, about RISC V | Apr 30 21:08 |
| asciilifeform | they do not sell to foreign countries. | Apr 30 21:08 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: riscv terrible architecture. no flags, and because of this cryptography very slow, cannot write efficient 'bignum'. | Apr 30 21:08 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Ah, partially explains their staggering commercial success | Apr 30 21:08 |
| asciilifeform | x86 also 'commercial success' while being shit. | Apr 30 21:09 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: that was about elbrus | Apr 30 21:09 |
| asciilifeform | i have yet to see a working elbrus offered for sale where i can buy it, for any price. | Apr 30 21:09 |
| XRevan86 | hard to make money and reject customers at the same time | Apr 30 21:09 |
| asciilifeform | even if found, as i understand it is full of 'licensed' hardware from americans. | Apr 30 21:10 |
| asciilifeform | the network card, chipset, etc. | Apr 30 21:10 |
| asciilifeform | does not come with source for cpu, either | Apr 30 21:10 |
| asciilifeform | my impression is that it is 'golden toilet' for ru military market. | Apr 30 21:10 |
| asciilifeform | in china they made a similar machine, 'dragon' | Apr 30 21:10 |
| asciilifeform | also not buyable by anyone who isn't chinese general. | Apr 30 21:11 |
| asciilifeform | and also 0 published sources. | Apr 30 21:11 |
| asciilifeform | when i say 'fully open', will illustrate : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/sovok/1801BM2_schematics.djvu example. | Apr 30 21:12 |
| XRevan86 | > sovok | Apr 30 21:12 |
| asciilifeform | correct. where chip came with document that tells where the transistors are and why. | Apr 30 21:13 |
| asciilifeform | that's what means 'open'. | Apr 30 21:13 |
| asciilifeform | my 'mk61' calculator came with schematic. which pc comes with schematic ? | Apr 30 21:14 |
| asciilifeform | when rms & the other americans who grew up in forest, with wolves, say 'open', they have no idea what the word means. | Apr 30 21:14 |
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| XRevan86 | Ah, so that's *from* sovok, understood | Apr 30 21:15 |
| asciilifeform | correct, bk / dvk cpu | Apr 30 21:16 |
| asciilifeform | possibly XRevan86 is familiar | Apr 30 21:16 |
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| XRevan86 | which dvk is that? | Apr 30 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | > mk61 | Apr 30 21:18 |
| XRevan86 | ah | Apr 30 21:18 |
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| asciilifeform | 1801 ? МС1201 | Apr 30 21:18 |
| asciilifeform | and several other machines ( industrial control, army, etc ) | Apr 30 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | К1801ВМ2 | Apr 30 21:19 |
| asciilifeform | last i knew was still being made in zelenograd. | Apr 30 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | 1982… | Apr 30 21:19 |
| asciilifeform | unless factory was sawed apart in recent years | Apr 30 21:19 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: as recently as 2009 | Apr 30 21:20 |
| asciilifeform | it's a perfectly good 16bit cpu with zero washington in it. | Apr 30 21:20 |
| asciilifeform | you don't need 32 core 'pentium' for controlling rocket. | Apr 30 21:20 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Are you registered on LOR? | Apr 30 21:22 |
| asciilifeform | i do not know what it is? | Apr 30 21:23 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Linux.org.ru | Apr 30 21:24 |
| asciilifeform | i think i registered an acct several years ago, to make a comment somewhere | Apr 30 21:24 |
| asciilifeform | but do not remember now when and where | Apr 30 21:24 |
| asciilifeform | possibly it had to do with the http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/ incident . | Apr 30 21:26 |
| asciilifeform | when mp_en_viaje and i found the breakable keys, washington cooked up a quick 'rebuttal' and spread it around the net, and linux.org.ru published a translated copy 'as fact' , and iirc i left comment ( probably was deleted immediately, i did not look ) | Apr 30 21:27 |
| asciilifeform | XRevan86: now i have to go, will be back later. | Apr 30 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | asciilifeform: Found a thread on the topic, didn't find thee | Apr 30 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | and it's the only thread on the topic | Apr 30 21:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://linux.org.ru/forum/talks/11617257 | Apr 30 21:32 |
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| MinceR | 30 172356 <+oiaohm> By hey its the English mangled mess. | Apr 30 21:46 |
| MinceR | "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." | Apr 30 21:47 |
| MinceR | --James D. Nicoll | Apr 30 21:47 |
| XRevan86 | and also complicated spellings of existing words by mistake | Apr 30 21:51 |
| XRevan86 | I am impressed by iland being respelled as island | Apr 30 21:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 30 21:53 |
| MinceR | there are also those extra u-s and swapped er-s | Apr 30 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | and "numb" | Apr 30 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | > The final ‹b› is a later addition to the spelling; it was never pronounced, and did not appear in the original word. | Apr 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 30 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's just Frenchness | Apr 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | more like imitating the french | Apr 30 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | For instance, metre is from French | Apr 30 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | <- Latin metrum <- Greek metron | Apr 30 21:55 |
| MinceR | in some of its senses it's "meter" even in UK english | Apr 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | just to make things easier | Apr 30 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just like "while" in some sense is "hwile" | Apr 30 21:56 |
| MinceR | huh? | Apr 30 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | sound swap is not an uncommon phenomenon | Apr 30 21:56 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I am actually puzzled by my it is spelled this way. | Apr 30 21:57 |
| MinceR | hwile is Old English | Apr 30 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | * by why | Apr 30 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But it was *never* pronounced like "while" | Apr 30 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | always hw | Apr 30 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | that in most dialects shifted to just w | Apr 30 21:57 |
| MinceR | i've never heard it pronounced it hw | Apr 30 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe you didn't notice :) | Apr 30 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:En-ne-while.ogg | Apr 30 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commons.wikimedia.org | File:En-ne-while.ogg - Wikimedia Commons | Apr 30 21:58 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It is common in South American accents. | Apr 30 21:58 |
| XRevan86 | Fun fact: the word for a minute in Ukrainian is khvylyna | Apr 30 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | hwile-ina | Apr 30 22:00 |
| MinceR | south americans are uncommon here | Apr 30 22:00 |
| MinceR | and kh is a different sound from h | Apr 30 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I followed conventional transliteration | Apr 30 22:01 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/zh7wg6OMJkE?t=3 pronunciation example | Apr 30 22:04 |
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| XRevan86 | And yes, it is from English | Apr 30 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | at least according to some sources I may be remembering wrong (: | Apr 30 22:08 |
| XRevan86 | but it is from a Germanic language for sure | Apr 30 22:08 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wine-whine_merger | Apr 30 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | wine-whine merger - Wiktionary | Apr 30 22:13 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: that's the one | Apr 30 22:13 |
| MinceR | the unmerged option is pretty uncommon apparently | Apr 30 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | also Scottish | Apr 30 22:13 |
| MinceR | 30 230403 <+XRevan86> MinceR: https://youtu.be/zh7wg6OMJkE?t=3 pronunciation example | Apr 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | still sounds more kh than h to me | Apr 30 22:14 |
| MinceR | isn't soft 'h' rare in eastern slavic languages anyway? | Apr 30 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: It depends on what you mean by soft | Apr 30 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Ru-%D1%85%D0%B8%CC%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C.ogg soft, as in slender | Apr 30 22:15 |
| MinceR | soft as in what russians usually transliterate with 'g' :> | Apr 30 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: There's a sound represented by "h" in transliterations… | Apr 30 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Uk-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE.ogg | Apr 30 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | there it is | Apr 30 22:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's the one | Apr 30 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ^ That's the one. | Apr 30 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Does that sound anything like an English h? | Apr 30 22:16 |
| MinceR | i think so | Apr 30 22:17 |
| XRevan86 | gm… | Apr 30 22:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 30 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/Z7cs36z3uNg?t=94 | Apr 30 22:20 |
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| XRevan86 | "what's" – barely recognisable, but "why" | Apr 30 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So I'm pretty sure you in fact were exposed to that kind of pronunciation before ;) | Apr 30 22:22 |
| XRevan86 | … and didn't notice | Apr 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | i still don't hear the 'h' in 'what' and i'm not sure what i'm hearing in 'why' | Apr 30 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He starts the "what's" with breathing in, so it colludes with "hw" | Apr 30 22:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But you don't hear ŭ-a-j there, right? ;) | Apr 30 22:24 |
| XRevan86 | as I hear it, he barely even makes that ŭ out at all | Apr 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | i don't think i can cut it into such units | Apr 30 22:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe what's stopping me from seeing γ sound as close to the English h is that it is voiced. | Apr 30 22:29 |
| *XRevan86 went to check how modern Greeks pronounce γ | Apr 30 22:32 | |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Ell-Genos.ogg | Apr 30 22:32 |
| XRevan86 | I… did not expect that | Apr 30 22:32 |
| XRevan86 | hosspadi… | Apr 30 22:34 |
| XRevan86 | ( https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Ru-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8_%28%C9%A3%29.ogg ) | Apr 30 22:35 |
| XRevan86 | Ancient Greek: g, Byzantine Greek: gh / h, Modern Greek: j | Apr 30 22:37 |
| *XRevan86 looks for a pronunciation example of гамма | Apr 30 22:37 | |
| XRevan86 | maybe I should just look for a Greek αλφαβητ | Apr 30 22:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/UBkmIonys0I?t=23 that works | Apr 30 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Τα γράμματα της αλφαβήτας - The letters of the Greek alphabet - YouTube | Apr 30 22:41 | |
| XRevan86 | delta → thelta | Apr 30 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | I'm not even surprised at this point | Apr 30 22:41 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Does that sound in Greek sound like English h? | Apr 30 22:43 |
| MinceR | imo it doesn't | Apr 30 22:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/RQF6dZZqX5I?t=55 and here? | Apr 30 22:46 |
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| XRevan86 | explains the deal with it turning into "j" too | Apr 30 22:46 |
| MinceR | nice | Apr 30 22:50 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Sam Hartman, Download Links and Chris Lamb's Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123400 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8fca7b6b-590a-4742-a9a0-c1e297a70027] | May 01 04:54 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: New Release, Photoshop Alternatives for GNU/Linux, KDE Applications 19.04 From Snap Store and VPN Clients http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123402 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e62be97c-c9e6-4636-b6f4-c00025a985d9] | May 01 05:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Entryism (Black Duck, Apache and Linux Foundation) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123403 [https://pleroma.site/objects/25039790-cfc6-4403-b138-d2dd2aea2376] | May 01 05:21 | |
| kaniini | schestowitz GitHub is a great repo of config files and ssl private keys for random websites | May 01 05:57 |
| kaniini | lol | May 01 05:58 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: sounds about right by the number of tools made to mine github for that data. | May 01 06:10 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: https://github.com/zricethezav/gitleaks fun tools. | May 01 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - zricethezav/gitleaks: Audit git repos for secrets 🔑 | May 01 06:13 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Desktop GNU/Linux Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123404 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a942d1db-7919-4bc8-836f-9ecff763050e] | May 01 06:14 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: you can even search for them | May 01 06:40 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: i wanted to note | May 01 06:41 |
| schestowitz | in pleroma classic UI (not mastodon-like front end) | May 01 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I can no longer see an option to delete. I've looked everywhere | May 01 06:41 |
| schestowitz | so when I post something in error I need to use mastodon-like front end to delete it | May 01 06:41 |
| schestowitz | in the past there was an icon with "x" | May 01 06:42 |
| schestowitz | for deleting these, it vanished recently, I think | May 01 06:42 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz yeah it's known issue I just need to update the software | May 01 11:11 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/AhjBYNq | May 01 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Carol is a mystery - Album on Imgur | May 01 14:08 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/fAEyuyE.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/0TBzgfi ) | May 01 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That's an amazing ladder - Album on Imgur | May 01 14:44 | |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/b0rk9PZ.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/b0rk9PZ ) | May 01 15:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Snuggle buddies - GIF on Imgur | May 01 15:04 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: thanks, sounds reassuring | May 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz | I love your homegrown, gnusocial-like UI better | May 01 16:35 |
| schestowitz | mastodon became too bloated for me | May 01 16:36 |
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| kaniini | schestowitz: yeah, mastodon is really busy, and the firehose effect is somewhat annoying actually | May 01 20:12 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: delete button should be back now btw | May 01 20:31 |
| schestowitz | thanks, refreshing page | May 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz | aaannd it's baaaack | May 01 20:38 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/IB7aLdB.png | May 01 21:23 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Didn't initially notice that the second Thor is from SG-1, too. | May 01 21:33 |
| MinceR | :> | May 01 21:34 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know it was called that | May 01 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Stargate SG-1 you mean? | May 01 21:43 |
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| XRevan86 | After seeing 1.4 seasons of ST: Voyager I can say that Janeway is the most reckless captain of them all. | May 01 22:32 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021530 | May 02 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 00:02 | |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: https://twitter.com/MsFutbol3/status/1123780329372815360 | May 02 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MsFutbol3: @Kirat_Jadhav @schestowitz @LFC Pep: yup that’s Messi https://t.co/pva7BNgPMj | May 02 03:58 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation and Kernel Coverage From LWN (Liberated From Paywall Hours Ago) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123441 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2413354f-0a1d-44d7-a55b-530ebb35f9c8] | May 02 06:51 | |
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| ---MinceR gives voice to gde33 oiaohm amarsh04 Researcher- | May 02 06:59 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021446 | May 02 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 07:18 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021435 | May 02 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 07:53 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe we should patent that | May 02 08:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's AI | May 02 08:13 |
| schestowitz | HEY HI!! | May 02 08:13 |
| MinceR | :> | May 02 08:22 |
| schestowitz | I will borrow this pic for my article | May 02 08:26 |
| schestowitz | it lacks source hough | May 02 08:26 |
| schestowitz | *though | May 02 08:26 |
| schestowitz | I think it is genetic | May 02 08:26 |
| schestowitz | with text added | May 02 08:26 |
| schestowitz | because the text if uglyish | May 02 08:27 |
| schestowitz | I will modify it a bit to make it fair-ish use | May 02 08:27 |
| schestowitz | ...done | May 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | I added some bits to it | May 02 08:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: see image in http://techrights.org/2019/05/02/epo-abolishing-the-court-system/ | May 02 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO in 2019: Pushing (and Bribing) for Buzzwords to Bypass/Cheat the Law Whilst Abolishing the Court System | Techrights | May 02 09:47 | |
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| *XRevan86 predict that a new word will be invented to describe AI, as the existing one's being discredited. | May 02 12:59 | |
| XRevan86 | "Mr. Data, I heard you're an AI, are you based on TensorFlow?" | May 02 13:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/14788637 | May 02 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: XRevan86 "predict[s] that a new word will be invented to describe AI, as the existing one's being discredited." I guess they will just substitute #ai (HEY HI!) with #machinelearning even where it's inapplicable | May 02 13:02 | |
| *XRevan86 lost the "s", yes. | May 02 13:03 | |
| *XRevan86 hopes that instead they will realise that this is no more AI than IBM Deep Blue (smarter than a human!). | May 02 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | even IBM stopped it | May 02 13:08 |
| schestowitz | rebranded as Watson and given a TV slot | May 02 13:08 |
| schestowitz | prime time | May 02 13:08 |
| schestowitz | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/05/01/more-than-100-arrested-in-may-1-demonstrations-around-russia-as-government-supporters-hold-celebrations-nearby | May 02 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | May 02 13:08 | |
| XRevan86 | > Watson is the AI platform for business. | May 02 13:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Doesn't look like they have. | May 02 13:09 |
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| XRevan86 | "Machine Learning" isn't a perfect description either, but at least it cause people to wonder whether the pattern recognising dummies should be taught the Three Laws of Robotics. | May 02 13:16 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/ML/.com.co.uk | May 02 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://schestowitz.com/Research/ML/.com.co.uk ) | May 02 13:18 | |
| schestowitz | oops | May 02 13:18 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Research/ML/ | May 02 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Machine Learning | May 02 13:18 | |
| MinceR | 02 104705 <@schestowitz> MinceR: see image in http://techrights.org/2019/05/02/epo-abolishing-the-court-system/ | May 02 13:29 |
| MinceR | :D | May 02 13:29 |
| zoobab | love it | May 02 13:36 |
| schestowitz | I think it's fair use | May 02 13:39 |
| schestowitz | because it is modified more than a little | May 02 13:40 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I don't know the source | May 02 13:40 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, MSfutbol? :) My knowledge of Football comes indirectly from customers | May 02 18:20 |
| schestowitz | irish any of them? | May 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | iirc, you were born in/near belfast, canadians aren't into "soccer" | May 02 18:22 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, that's right, good memory | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | my best friend's mom lives there | May 02 18:22 |
| cubexyz | customers... some English, some Indian (from India) | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Indians love watching football | May 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | never met Pakistanis or Indians who are really good at it, unlike cricket | May 02 18:23 |
| cubexyz | Toronto had a high number of immigrants from Ireland due to the potato famine | May 02 18:23 |
| cubexyz | I learned a bit more of the history earlier today | May 02 18:24 |
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| cubexyz | I can remember some Irish talking about George Best | May 02 18:25 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz, there's some interest in Toronto FC so I wouldn't say there's no interest | May 02 18:28 |
| cubexyz | but ice hockey is the main thing over here | May 02 18:29 |
| cubexyz | regarding people's concern for linux.. I always say the same thing: | May 02 18:33 |
| cubexyz | don't depend on it 100%... use 9front, bsd, or whatever as well | May 02 18:33 |
| cubexyz | heck, give FreeRTOS a try | May 02 18:36 |
| cubexyz | OpenSXCE was another one | May 02 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | cubexyz: I didn't know Best was Irish | May 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Best | May 02 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | George Best - Wikipedia | May 02 19:11 | |
| schestowitz | Northern Ireland | May 02 19:11 |
| schestowitz | I just knew about his Manchester United career | May 02 19:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 21:15 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 23:11 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This is real O_O | May 02 23:13 |
| XRevan86 | not the second part probably though | May 02 23:13 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19021331 | May 02 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 02 23:22 | |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLuZjpxmsZQ | May 02 23:58 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19032749 | May 03 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 03 10:45 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, I figured he was going to be particularly kind whilst killing them. | May 03 12:14 |
| MinceR | :> | May 03 12:15 |
| XRevan86 | English is ambiguous this way. | May 03 12:46 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://hugelol.com/lol/594875 | May 03 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | It just works. | May 03 17:25 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelol.com/lol/596645 | May 03 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | My cat figured out how the fridge works and now he's turnt on fresh, crisp water | May 03 20:56 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020850 | May 03 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 03 21:02 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020845 | May 03 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 03 21:52 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020843 | May 03 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 03 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceRsaid something like: The fruit of Microsoft's "free" donated software to "education" is a generation of M$ cultists running IT departments that don't work well using software that is completely unfit for the task at hand while compromising the security of all of the information it handles. | May 03 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I don't even feel comfortable at the DMV, because not only is it packed full of horseshit, it's not even Microsoft's current horseshit. It's fucking Windows XP because Shitcago and Hellinois are broke as fuck. | May 03 22:28 |
| MinceR | well, winblows xp is better than all the winblows versions since | May 03 22:32 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020718 | May 03 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 03 23:52 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020718 | May 04 00:57 |
| MinceR | disregard that | May 04 00:57 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/595622.jpg | May 04 00:57 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: Open Infrastructure Summit Interview and Red Hat Summit Plans http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123509 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d5e242b-1ae7-404c-b7c3-ceb0f584c493] | May 04 02:35 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Jim Zemlin has blocked #tuxmachines in Twitter, >even< if his colleagues have given interviews to this #gnu #linux news site. #zemlin isn't a Linux person, he just 'monetises' the brand http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [https://pleroma.site/objects/12345e1f-f82f-4e8b-8eb7-f9221f38ae10] | May 04 12:40 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020637 | May 04 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 14:54 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.dorktower.com/2018/03/08/momento-in-time-dork-tower-08-02-18/ http://www.dorktower.com/2018/03/14/dead-set-dork-tower-14-03-18/ | May 04 15:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dorktower.com | Memento in Time – DORK TOWER 08.02.18 – Dork Tower | May 04 15:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dorktower.com | Dead Set – DORK TOWER 14.03.18 – Dork Tower | May 04 15:22 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/594883.jpg | May 04 15:59 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: Containers on NVIDIA Jetson Nano and GNU/Linux Running Under z/OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/123530 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a91cacd0-aa0b-483f-be23-55d16e4e3bc7] | May 04 16:36 | |
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| MinceR | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Normandy/PreferenceRollout | May 04 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.mozilla.org | Firefox/Normandy/PreferenceRollout - MozillaWiki | May 04 16:43 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/594735.jpg | May 04 17:05 |
| cubexyz | is there a way to start an app always on top? | May 04 17:21 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/x88FDw7 | May 04 17:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When they said she was 'special,' I shoulda asked a lot of questions... - Album on Imgur | May 04 17:21 | |
| MinceR | if you're using fvwm, you can set a given layer for a window with a given name or class in thw rc, so yes | May 04 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Looks kind of Thai | May 04 17:23 |
| MinceR | s/hw/he/ | May 04 17:24 |
| cubexyz | I've forgotten most of the dcop stuff from KDE 3.5.10 | May 04 17:29 |
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| cubexyz | I guess all the wm's are different, or was there some standard way for doing stuff like that? | May 04 17:41 |
| MinceR | well, you could use devilspie with EWMH-compliant wm-s to detect when the window appears and set its layer | May 04 17:41 |
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| MinceR | http://www.dorktower.com/2018/10/23/my-kingdom-for-a-pegacorn-dork-tower-23-10-18/ | May 04 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dorktower.com | My Kingdom for a Pegacorn – DORK TOWER 23.10.18 – Dork Tower | May 04 19:21 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020631 | May 04 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 21:00 | |
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| XRevan86 | A whole new angle to the Poe's Law. | May 04 21:03 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ipkMnKx.mp4 ( https://i.imgur.com/ipkMnKx.gifv ) | May 04 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | A new camera was set up in the park. Snow Leopard was spooked. | May 04 21:03 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020615 | May 04 22:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 22:13 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020340 | May 04 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 22:21 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19020332 | May 04 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 22:43 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1902038 | May 04 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | May 04 23:38 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: brothers? | May 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | :> | May 04 23:43 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/preWZOH.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/preWZOH ) | May 05 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Are you seeing this?!" - GIF on Imgur | May 05 00:05 | |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/sAc0U4V | May 05 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-15 light roast comics that are a little darker - Album on Imgur | May 05 00:44 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I got my portable hard drives all switched over from ExFAT to Ext4. | May 05 10:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ExFAT is a real slug with the FSUE module and it starts acting really flaky after it has aged for a couple of years. | May 05 10:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was getting random I/O errors and decided to run, not walk, to the exits, before I couldn't mount the file system. :/ | May 05 10:50 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: its also the fact to have a proper ExFat repair tool its run windows. | May 05 11:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dorktower.com | Happy Hallow Ia! Ia! een! – DORK TOWER 25.10.18 – Dork Tower | May 05 17:10 | |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Why Shocked Pikachu though? | May 05 18:40 |
| MinceR | because of the surprise when he finds out? | May 05 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He was probably disappointed. | May 05 18:48 |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as being male and successsfully seeing more colours than you should in a colour test. | May 05 18:56 |
| MinceR | XX chromosomes, mutated sex hormones and tetrachromatism? | May 05 18:57 |
| MinceR | or just mutation, or just chimerism? | May 05 18:57 |
| oiaohm | There a odd one. tetrachromatism is one way of broader range that only happens if you have female XX chromosomes somewhere. | May 05 18:59 |
| oiaohm | There is one that happens if you have alteration to cell constructions protones as well. | May 05 18:59 |
| oiaohm | Not a broad as Tetrachromatism but causes confusing why you can see far too much and be male. | May 05 19:00 |
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