09.30.07
Gemini version available ♊︎Is Novell Patrolling Open Source Blogs?
The blogsphere isn’t a police state and anonymous comments make it hard to understand just how much astroturfing is really going on.
It was previously mentioned that Novell bends the arms of bloggers (also here, among other incidents). This is unacceptable. If a blogger has criticism directed at Novell, it needs to be addressed not behind the scenes and not in unpleasant ways. Arm-bending tactics do not work; neither does viral marketing or grassroots support.
“Should bloggers be bullied whenever they question Novell’s alleged ‘success’?”I’ve just spotted a new post from Dave Rosenberg, whose blog I regularly read and enjoy. He offered his interpretation of Novell’s latest figures — figures which we haven’t faith in.
There’s no concrete evidence, but only strong suspicion. Knowing what we know and having learned from past experience, however, it seems likely that Novell (or at least its community) is up to old tricks.
Have a look at this new blog item.
I’ve left two comments, but only one shows up (probably because of moderation, which limits posting to just one per IP address). The second comment (if it appears) will talk about the strange pace of responses, which consistently support Novell. This pattern can be seen despite the fact that Novell support comes from a quiet minority, based on I hear from other people. Notice how once again, a Novell critic gets immediate opposition from anonymous commenters. What is going on there? Should bloggers be bullied whenever they question Novell’s alleged ‘success’?
gpl1 said,
September 30, 2007 at 4:20 am
Microsoft has to maintain that deal as well. And they are experts in this sort of thing.
Maarten Kooiker said,
September 30, 2007 at 4:50 am
I think there is little you can do about it, just leave Novell and Microsoft where they are and don’t pay attention…..
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 30, 2007 at 5:00 am
@gpl1: Heh. You’re telling me…
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From the Register:
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Ian said,
September 30, 2007 at 10:18 pm
You’re using post times and the general tone of those posts as evidence that Novell is pushing bloggers? Regardless of where anyone comes down on the whole Novell/Microsoft deal, that’s a weak claim with very shoddy evidence. You often like to hold Groklaw and PJ up was an example of what you’d like this site to be, but I don’t think that site would make a claim like that with so little to back it up.
I’m not trying to be a jerk. I can’t even tell you you’re wrong. What I’m trying to say though, is that you need more than hearsay and conspiracy theories if you’re going to make claims like that.
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 30, 2007 at 10:25 pm
The IP addresses were checked and I know what I read (by E-mail).
Serenitude said,
October 1, 2007 at 12:56 am
The wiki link to the “Fictitious names used by Microsoft” points to a deleted article
Roy Schestowitz said,
October 1, 2007 at 1:15 am
It’s hardly surprising. Wealth and power enable you to rewrite history.
Yes, I’m sure that Microsoft’s corruption of Wikipedia with paid contribution hasn’t anything to do with this. *rolls eyes*
Adam said,
October 1, 2007 at 8:51 am
I’ve gotta say I’ve been reading posts from this blog off and on and I find most of the complaints to be rather petty. I do not work for Novell, but I work with many Novell products and they are good stuff. I get Google updates of posting on the keyword “Novell” to check what’s going on and there is plenty of balance on the Internet of Novell negative/positive posting. From the previous comments, I get it, Microsoft strong arms, but what does that have to do with Novell besides the fact that they are dealing with them now?
Roy Schestowitz said,
October 1, 2007 at 3:23 pm
A lot of Novell’s actions support Microsoft’s interests, at the expense of other Microsoft rivals and Linux as a whole.