| SubsonicB | but I abandoned it due to spam as well | Dec 13 00:00 |
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| wispy | oh ok roy | Dec 13 00:00 |
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| PetoKraus | though i am not using my gmail address at all | Dec 13 00:00 |
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| wispy | you should! it comes with themes now | Dec 13 00:00 |
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| wispy | i use a cool beach theme | Dec 13 00:00 |
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| PetoKraus | http://www.irc.gjh.sk/paste... | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| PetoKraus | that's my mail redirects | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| PetoKraus | i collect them | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | New: Teacher Confiscates Linux CDs, says "No Software Is Free" < http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3... > | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| wispy | cool pk | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | Reminds me of Jeremy Allison's Land of Nothing for Free | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| PetoKraus | it's pretty obvious why i don't use gmail address for sane purposes | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.samba.org/samba/news/article... | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| wispy | here's an update about that teacher, roy: http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/character-a... | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | Seen it | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| wispy | ol | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| wispy | ok* | Dec 13 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | He got even more attention which is good | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| wispy | heh | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | It raises awareness about stupidity around Free software | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| wispy | my sisters used to think firefox causes viruses | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | He called me an "inspiration", IIRC :-) | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| wispy | who did? | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | Ken Starks (Helios) | Dec 13 00:02 |
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| wispy | IE is a virus | Dec 13 00:03 |
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| wispy | oh him | Dec 13 00:03 |
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| wispy | yeah i agree with him roy ;) | Dec 13 00:03 |
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| SubsonicB | that's great! | Dec 13 00:03 |
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| wispy | you are pretty cool | Dec 13 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | Windows Mobile is called broken: Fixing Windows Mobile <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10121... > | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | Many people sing a eulogy to it | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| wispy | it's no surprise windows is broken :P | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | And Microsoft has been denying rumours that the next expo will bring a new secret phone from MSVIDIA | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | wispy: it's not broken enough | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| wispy | people are way more obsessed with apple rumors | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | It's not modular | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | They need to fix this | Dec 13 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | They duplicate work and it's a mess | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | Too much of a monsterbuild. | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | ohh ok | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | MonolithOS | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | haha monster | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | ahhhh! | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | That's what they call it | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | save me | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | :) | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | " monsterbuild" | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| PetoKraus | thanks for that Helios continuation link | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| schestowitz | That's what they call it internally at Microsoft, IIRC | Dec 13 00:07 |
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| wispy | lol | Dec 13 00:08 |
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| SubsonicB | omg the story of Helios is unbelievable! | Dec 13 00:08 |
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| SubsonicB | thanx for the link, i read about the first part | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| SubsonicB | sent him a comment | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Key_data_cente... More MS poison in Amazon now. | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | They already have part of the Microsoft movement ending up in Amazon | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| wispy | cool hair | Dec 13 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | And now so long ago Amazon started offering Windows as an option. | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | They have Valentine too | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| PetoKraus | shows you what can your personal armyâ⢠do | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | I have some record of how they 'infect' it... like with Yahoo, but at a small scale | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| MinceR | gn | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| wispy | ms is destroying the amazon! | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| PetoKraus | gn MinceR | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| wispy | see ya! | Dec 13 00:10 |
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| wispy | oops roy, i g2g to dinner. take care! | Dec 13 00:12 |
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| wispy | bye everyone! | Dec 13 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | Cya | Dec 13 00:13 |
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| wispy | bye bye! xx | Dec 13 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR triggered avalanche :-) | Dec 13 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | All the statistics you could possibly ask for. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/indicators/ | Dec 13 00:17 |
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| PetoKraus | "Martina Moravkova just answered the question 'Do you think Peter Kraus is bisexual?'" | Dec 13 00:19 |
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| PetoKraus | these facebook apps are getting increasingly creepy | Dec 13 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | Haha | Dec 13 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | WTF? | Dec 13 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | Did a friend send this s*to you? | Dec 13 00:20 |
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| PetoKraus | i think most of the apps are hacked, or tools to hack | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | I want to get off this thing, but too many people will be offended *sob* | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | The whole thing is built on peer pressure | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | i'd been bombarded by snowballs | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | "WHY don't you join? You don't LIKE me? | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | and when i asked some people why are they sending this crap to me, they said, they didn't | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | i had exactly this discussion with my friend yesterday | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | SJVN did an article about it... http://blogs.computerworld.com/sorry_im_n... | Dec 13 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | i moved all my pictures from there. It's disgusting what crappy shoots are there. I don't wanna be part of it. | Dec 13 00:22 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm using it as a communication medium. Keeping in touch. It's usually open in one tab all the time | Dec 13 00:22 |
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| PetoKraus | and yes, pictures of my redhead friend :) | Dec 13 00:23 |
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| PetoKraus | i've heard at work, that there's some viruses spreading trough it | Dec 13 00:23 |
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| PetoKraus | makes you wonder... | Dec 13 00:23 |
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| schestowitz | You have GOT to watch this video: http://current.com/items/88913552/socia... | Dec 13 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | Took me 3 minutes to find it for you to watch/use | Dec 13 00:25 |
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| PetoKraus | ummm | Dec 13 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | Facebook is a survellance facility too | Dec 13 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | For friends, FBI, employers, etc. | Dec 13 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | I take communication off there if people choose as as though it's the New E-\mail(R) | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| PetoKraus | well doh! | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | I want my archives on MY computer | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Not 'FB' | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Not some Web 2.0 'cloud'.. | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | On /my/ PC | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| PetoKraus | i asked my mate to give me SSL on my page | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Although it's not private either | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| PetoKraus | there's no real reason to do that | Dec 13 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | In the UK they also log every E-mail you send | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| PetoKraus | it's just... i feel ssl should be used for everything | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | Like PGP | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | That won't be permitted | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | The investor of PGP had the spooks hounding him | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | Encryption needs to have some back doors to the elites. | Dec 13 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | Remember: Big Brother = responsible people | Dec 13 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | You're too stupid to make your own choices | Dec 13 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | You need to hold the hands of 'adults' with connections or $$ (translates to other things) | Dec 13 00:28 |
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| schestowitz | Here's that video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bk... the link below no longer works | Dec 13 00:29 |
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| PetoKraus | the movie is well done | Dec 13 00:29 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm in 2nd minute | Dec 13 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | Is it the animation? | Dec 13 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | I think they changed it | Dec 13 00:30 |
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| PetoKraus | what bugs me though, i can't read the FB pages of the people talking | Dec 13 00:31 |
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| PetoKraus | too low-res | Dec 13 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | I'm seeing that wrong video | Dec 13 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | Something about japan | Dec 13 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | Very interesting. | Dec 13 00:33 |
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| SubsonicB | Social networks dont attract me | Dec 13 00:34 |
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| SubsonicB | neither instant messaging | Dec 13 00:34 |
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| SubsonicB | I think many people wil regret inserting themselves in FB and other social networks sooner or later | Dec 13 00:35 |
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| PetoKraus | it's absolutely perfect for trolling though | Dec 13 00:35 |
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| PetoKraus | :) | Dec 13 00:35 |
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| SubsonicB | Too many personal information publicly exposed that can be used against you at a given time | Dec 13 00:35 |
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| PetoKraus | it depends how you handle it... | Dec 13 00:35 |
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| SubsonicB | I also thin anonymous speech is the only way to protect free speech in the net | Dec 13 00:36 |
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| SubsonicB | think | Dec 13 00:36 |
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| SubsonicB | and of course GPG | Dec 13 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn... | Dec 13 00:37 |
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| SubsonicB | i saw that | Dec 13 00:38 |
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| SubsonicB | im not quite into id software | Dec 13 00:38 |
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| SubsonicB | i will have a look at openid | Dec 13 00:38 |
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| SubsonicB | i find it insteresting to authenticate users in several systems | Dec 13 00:39 |
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| SubsonicB | provided you can implement the software yourself and be in control (not relying into a third party) | Dec 13 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | Here's the thing | Dec 13 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft tried this. | Dec 13 00:39 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah, nice short video | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | Making a password as though we're the nation of Mcirosoft | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | OpenID is the way to go for some | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| SubsonicB | that is passport | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | To give Microsoft identity control is dangerous. It's a dying company without ethics | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| SubsonicB | look at what happened in Chile | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| SubsonicB | it was a scandal | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | Blech | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | I get angy just thinking about that | Dec 13 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | Corruptible officials. | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft sweet-talked and they soldf out | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | See the recent protests in India | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | They sell kids to Microsoft child slavery | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| SubsonicB | ms-business-as-usual | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | (digital shackles... turning schools to training camps) | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| SubsonicB | (tm) | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | bizniz | Dec 13 00:41 |
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| SubsonicB | lol | Dec 13 00:42 |
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| schestowitz | Ubuntu tries marketing slogan, fails < http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/130891,ubuntu-trie... > | Dec 13 00:43 |
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| PetoKraus | someone likes big cocks | Dec 13 00:45 |
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| schestowitz | Goblin: "the extent that Ive been asked if I would like to be a guest on a US radio show." Congrats to him. | Dec 13 00:45 |
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| PetoKraus | http://backoffice.ajb.com.au//images... | Dec 13 00:45 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 13 00:46 |
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| schestowitz | WHich one is Ubuntu? | Dec 13 00:46 |
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| PetoKraus | Joke of the day... | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| PetoKraus | anyway, good night. tomorrow's long day, and sunday is long day | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| PetoKraus | and i am not even thinking about monay | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| PetoKraus | *day | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | Ubuntu... it has always been a little queer. | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | As in strange. | Dec 13 00:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm gonna ask you a question: | Dec 13 00:48 |
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| PetoKraus | http://tinyurl.com/5wn45a http://tinyurl.com/6m85jj | Dec 13 00:48 |
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| PetoKraus | this happened to me once.... | Dec 13 00:50 |
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| PetoKraus | i took a picture of a stream of water in rocks | Dec 13 00:50 |
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| PetoKraus | a week later, my exgf was there with her parents | Dec 13 00:50 |
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| PetoKraus | she took exactly the same picture as me, without seeing mine before | Dec 13 00:50 |
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| schestowitz | Is this your house? | Dec 13 00:53 |
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| SubsonicB | €¿? | Dec 13 00:53 |
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| schestowitz | Pisa. | Dec 13 00:54 |
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| SubsonicB | lol | Dec 13 00:54 |
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| SubsonicB | a pleasure being with you tonight, gentlemen, must retire now | Dec 13 00:54 |
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| SubsonicB | quit now | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| SubsonicB | :-D | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus is like the reverse Borar. | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | He comes from a country of wisdom and culture to a place of scooby snacks and circus. | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| SubsonicB | take care everyone! | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | The place makes no sense | Dec 13 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | Hold on./ | Dec 13 00:56 |
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| schestowitz | Goodd video someone sent me.. | Dec 13 00:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWrOWnWu1E... | Dec 13 00:57 |
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| schestowitz | Very much worth seeing, | Dec 13 00:57 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: what makes you think it's like that :D | Dec 13 00:57 |
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| schestowitz | I was joking | Dec 13 00:58 |
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| PetoKraus | well, duh, i see :D | Dec 13 00:58 |
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| schestowitz | But you always point out the flaws, rightly so | Dec 13 00:58 |
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| PetoKraus | it's just... people here aren't "uncultured" or "unwise" more than back home | Dec 13 00:58 |
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| schestowitz | See the video I've just posted (someone mailed it to me last month) | Dec 13 00:58 |
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| schestowitz | There's this illusion that life in wealth means wisdom | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | Or that speaking English makes one smarter | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | But I only know of one nation that's many trillions in debt | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| PetoKraus | no, but it's not the other way around either :) | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | So the wealth is virtual. Anyway.. | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: it's billiards, actually | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | I'm probably driving away some people... | Dec 13 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | Actually... | Dec 13 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | I realise that many here are from the EU | Dec 13 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: the video? | Dec 13 01:00 |
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| PetoKraus | downloading | Dec 13 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | Watch all parts. It stands the test of time. | Dec 13 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | It's an outsider's view on stupid things we do and take for granted. | Dec 13 01:01 |
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| SubsonicB | I have a good one to send you as well | Dec 13 01:01 |
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| SubsonicB | but not today, its quite hard and I wish you a good weekend | Dec 13 01:02 |
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| SubsonicB | thanks for the video roy, seems promising it's bookmarked and will see it fully | Dec 13 01:02 |
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| SubsonicB | must go now guys | Dec 13 01:02 |
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| SubsonicB | bye! | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: i just skimmed trough it | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| schestowitz | OK, thanls. | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| PetoKraus | i'll watch it tomorrow | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| PetoKraus | but austria is... well | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| PetoKraus | it's hard to say it politely | Dec 13 01:03 |
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| schestowitz | Elitist? | Dec 13 01:04 |
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| PetoKraus | more like GTFO my atomic power plant! | Dec 13 01:04 |
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| PetoKraus | *nuclear | Dec 13 01:04 |
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| schestowitz | Minority groups there are very segragated. | Dec 13 01:04 |
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| schestowitz | I think many Turks live their, but in isolation. | Dec 13 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | *there | Dec 13 01:05 |
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| PetoKraus | it's worse in germany, i presume | Dec 13 01:05 |
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| PetoKraus | good night | Dec 13 01:06 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe. You know what fuhrer came from there. | Dec 13 01:07 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: There's a typo in your post: "We see the effects of this in the global crisis right now because those [you need a "who" here] are rich are doing fine, whereas those who are poor are marginalised further and forced to pay big corporations in order to ’save’" | Dec 13 01:47 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks! | Dec 13 01:49 |
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| *schestowitz fixed typo | Dec 13 01:51 |
| Omar871 | Welcome. | Dec 13 01:52 |
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| twitter | Disney likes big cocks, http://www.snopes.com/disney/fil... | Dec 13 03:33 |
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| twitter | Canonical wants to promote community | Dec 13 03:33 |
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| twitter | Not bad for South Africa. | Dec 13 03:33 |
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| schestowitz | MISSING RADIOACTIVITY IN ICE CORES BODES ILL FOR PART OF ASIA < http://researchnews.osu.edu/archiv... > | Dec 13 10:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://technocrat.net/d/2008... (GM to Idle 20 Plants) | Dec 13 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | GM: Got Money? | Dec 13 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | Is the American Empire Facing Collapse? < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hx_iCimDEuc... > | Dec 13 11:14 |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Dec 13 12:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Non-proprietary..." EEE ... "In 2009, Microsoft will continue its gradual acceptance of open source software while at the same time it works to dispel old prejudices against non-proprietary software from within the company." < http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/news/article... > | Dec 13 12:23 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: we need a new logo for corruptible FCC: http://www.pcworld.com/article/155468/fcc_cancels... "The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has cancelled an open meeting set for Dec. 18 after two high-ranking lawmakers asked Chairman Kevin Martin to hold off on some controversial items in the agenda and concentrate on the transition to digital television instead." | Dec 13 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.orbitcast.com/archiv... | Dec 13 12:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Stein Bagger, the Danish IT executive who allegedly created millions of dollars in fake contracts for his company" http://www.pcworld.com/article/155459/it_star_ba... Sob stories, excuses... sounds like Madoff... just cared for the family etc. | Dec 13 12:59 |
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| schestowitz | 450 jobs dropped: Infor Cuts 5 Percent of Its Workforce < http://www.pcworld.com/article/1554... > | Dec 13 13:02 |
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| schestowitz | In all cases of corruption, they always have excuses... "I was under threat..." "I was under a lot of pressure" (Microsoft manager found guilty of fraud this year).. "I didn't know what I was doing.." Why does the press even give the sob stories attention? | Dec 13 13:04 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Dec 13 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | Hey Omar87 | Dec 13 14:26 |
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| Omar87 | Did you read this post? | Dec 13 14:28 |
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| Omar87 | http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/08/21/... | Dec 13 14:28 |
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| schestowitz | Foer Presents AAI Program to Obama-Biden FTC Transition Team < http://www.antitrustinstitute.org/Archi... > | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | I think I read that at the time. Actually, I'm pretty sure I did. | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| Omar87 | It's about 2 or 3 months old now, but it still got some interesting points. :) | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | Jordan had some news about VistA last week. | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | They deploy FOSS in healthcare | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | The US will be last to be pushed into Freedon | Dec 13 14:29 |
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| Omar87 | Where? in Jordan? | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | sadly, however, to many the 'news' is what's in English (ie.e. US industry speaks) | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | Same thing in politics | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, hold on. | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| Omar87 | Cool! | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| Omar87 | okay | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.arabianbusiness.com/540681-jordan-tri... | Dec 13 14:30 |
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| Omar87 | Oh, lol! | Dec 13 14:31 |
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| Omar87 | That's amazing! Except that the name makes think they're using M$ Windows Vista. :D | Dec 13 14:33 |
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| schestowitz | I rarely find FOSS news about Jordan. | Dec 13 14:33 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft ruined their name... VistA should sue. | Dec 13 14:33 |
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| Omar87 | Yeah.. | Dec 13 14:34 |
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| Omar87 | They MUST sue. | Dec 13 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | Seee... | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft's 'M' treads on US veterans' toes | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | Microsoft is in hot water again for again taking the name of someone else's | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | software for one of its fledgling products | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | It's emerged Microsoft's M programming language shares the same name as a | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | 30-year-old open language used by the US Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | along with tens of thousands of users in medicine and business world wide. | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | Even the former Soviet Union's iron-fisted rulers and its KGB spooks used the | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | language. | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | `---- | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/... | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | Also.. | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | Fiji's fury over Microsoft's Pacific solution | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | "Fiji's military government has written to the software giant Microsoft | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | demanding the company not use their country name in any of its products." | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | Fiji's interim attorney-general Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum today released a letter | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | sent to Microsoft's co-founder Bill Gates yesterday, after media reports the | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | software company may call its yet-to-be-released software "Windows Fiji". | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | `---- | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/fijis-fury-over-m... | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | The Other Vista: Successful and Open Source | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | The is a clear pattern to open source's continuing rise. The first free | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | software that was deployed was at the bottom of the enterprise software | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | stack: GNU/Linux, Apache, Sendmail, BIND. Later, databases and middleware | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | layers were added in the form of popular programs like MySQL and Jboss. More | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | recently, there have been an increasing number of applications serving the | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | top of the software stack, addressing sectors like enterprise content | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | management, customer relationship management, business intelligence and, most | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | recently, data warehousing. | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | But all of these are generic programs, applicable to any industry: the next | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | frontier for free software will be vertical applications serving particular | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | sectors. In fact, we already have one success in this area, but few people | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | know about it outside the industry it serves. Recent events mean that may be | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | about to change. | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | The basic program is called VistA; the name was chosen well before a Certain | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | Other Company copied the move, and the code began life as an electronic | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | | health records system for U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)... | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | `---- | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/other-... | Dec 13 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft’s credibility turning to junk while Linux revenue grows < http://tech.blorge.com/Structure%20/2008/04/10/microsofts-c... >; Microsoft Plummets, Retail Falls While Beauty Gains in CoreBrand 2007 Brand Power Rankings < http://www.marketwire.com... > | Dec 13 14:36 |
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| Omar87 | Wow, wow, wow, wow.... and wow... | Dec 13 14:37 |
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| Omar87 | That's awesome! | Dec 13 14:37 |
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| Omar87 | So VistA is an open source system? | Dec 13 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux... "665 comments" | Dec 13 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | "I won't say Ken Starks is a friend of mine but I have met him. He's a good guy on dedicated mission to bring Linux to the people. He is neither pushy or invasive. He brings information to those whom wish to obtain it. That said, I'm surprised his reply email was this calm..." http://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Hel... | Dec 13 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | The Reasons to Avoid Google Code < http://rm.pp.ru/info/en:re... > | Dec 13 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | Vista is open source, yes. | Dec 13 14:42 |
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| schestowitz | Not *that* Vista... the one with capital A | Dec 13 14:43 |
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| Omar87 | Yeah, it's VistA. :) | Dec 13 14:43 |
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| Omar87 | Man! That would make a great post! | Dec 13 14:44 |
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| Omar87 | I'll start working on it right away! :D | Dec 13 14:44 |
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| Omar87 | Thanks man. :) | Dec 13 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | Cool! | Dec 13 14:46 |
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| twitter | I know a place where you won't find "vista". | Dec 13 14:46 |
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| twitter | http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/zei... | Dec 13 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | The veterans behind VistA are still fighting the suppressive regime of the USSAR | Dec 13 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | F/OSS offers no kickbacks | Dec 13 14:47 |
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| twitter | basically, you don't see M$ anywhere other than hotmail and a 4 hits on msn in the world lists. | Dec 13 14:47 |
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| twitter | F/OSS offers all the kickbacks anything else does. | Dec 13 14:47 |
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| twitter | a contract is a contract, what you sell does not matter. | Dec 13 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | In the past day or so, BN served over 1000 pages/hours | Dec 13 14:48 |
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| twitter | cool | Dec 13 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | I can't figure out if it's caused by some bot | Dec 13 14:48 |
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| twitter | oh. | Dec 13 14:48 |
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| twitter | DDoS? | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | By Webalizer's definition it's even more... like 1500. | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | Not DDOS | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| twitter | all from the same addresses? | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| twitter | people archiving the site? | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| twitter | I've seen a lot of that | Dec 13 14:49 |
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| twitter | they pretend to be Google. | Dec 13 14:50 |
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| twitter | they usually target the biggest files they can find | Dec 13 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | It might be archiving | Dec 13 14:51 |
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| twitter | sure, but it's constant and it seems to be going to random Verizon and other ISP users. | Dec 13 14:52 |
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| twitter | It's been a while since I looked at logs. I'll check and see what's hot recently. | Dec 13 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | Cybercrime to rise... well, duh... but significantly. | Dec 13 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | It was in the news on Friday | Dec 13 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | Angry unemployed developers can't be good in a fabric that's so full of exploits. Chaos will come, but it may prove more of a deterrent against use of non-*NIX desktops and servers. | Dec 13 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Is this guy from Cisco? http://opensourcejuicer.blogspot.com/2008/12/ans... | Dec 13 14:59 |
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| schestowitz | Cystco? D-cisco? | Dec 13 14:59 |
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| twitter | ha, here's a cheap hack for mepis. | Dec 13 15:01 |
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| twitter | for some reason apt.mepis.org was not answering today. I got "unknown host" can others verify? | Dec 13 15:02 |
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| twitter | The solution? I used the internet archive by putting http://web.archive.org/web/20061014... into /etc/apt/sources.list | Dec 13 15:02 |
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| twitter | it's slow but it seems to have worked. I love the internet archive. | Dec 13 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Re: "Microsoft revising its attitude toward open source Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service" < http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/09/Mi... > It''s about selling proprietary Microsoft stacks. Nothing has changed at Microsoft other than the EEE (divide and conquer strategy). "Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches." - | Dec 13 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | -Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO | Dec 13 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | Serdar Yegulalp is peddling Microsoft's anti-Free software as well ('open source' freeware for proprietary stack): http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/arch... | Dec 13 15:06 |
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| twitter | from infoworld, " It's been quite a while since we've heard very much saber-rattling [from Microsoft] on open source" Hmmm, I'll have to scour the usual sources and update the extortion list | Dec 13 15:08 |
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| twitter | patent extortion timeline, http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/219107 | Dec 13 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | What idiocy. | Dec 13 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | "Been a while..." | Dec 13 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | Has Microsoft retracted? No, ti threatened more | Dec 13 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | It last did it a month ago.. | Dec 13 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | [Or two months ago] That's why I don't care about IDG's Wintel press. | Dec 13 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | The whole situation reminds me of politicians who sit with MAFIAA member and listen to them because they are "nice people" | Dec 13 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | Here you see reporters flirting with drones that ATTACK people's rights and freedom. "But they are polite people..." | Dec 13 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe they should also go skiing with Robert Mugabe sometimes.. | Dec 13 15:15 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Does it seem accurate to say that the proprietary approach is much like the Mainframe system? In that is assumes the only person who can think are the inventor of the technology and the company promoting this technology? Whereas users of this technology are merely dumb terminals? | Dec 13 15:26 |
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| Omar87 | CORRECTION---> *it* assumes | Dec 13 15:27 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that's a good analogy I never came across. | Dec 13 15:30 |
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| twitter | it leaves out malice | Dec 13 15:31 |
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| twitter | and people can edit source code through terminals | Dec 13 15:32 |
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| Omar87 | Except that, even becoming a mere dumb terminal here is not as easy as it sounds. | Dec 13 15:32 |
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| Omar87 | Because it requires you to be rich enough to afford the rising costs of patents, licensing... etc. | Dec 13 15:32 |
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| twitter | my monitor and keyboard are rather dumb, but my software is free. Mainframes just have more in the loop than my desktop does. | Dec 13 15:33 |
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| twitter | The Linux terminal server project is a good example of a free mainframe use | Dec 13 15:33 |
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| Omar87 | So, poor people are advised either to live in caves, or jump over a cliff and die. :D | Dec 13 15:34 |
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| twitter | GNU/Linux was made for sharing and is multiuser. No need for poor people to jump off the cliff. | Dec 13 15:34 |
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| twitter | Ladders are being thrown down the cliff as fast as free software developers can make them. | Dec 13 15:35 |
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| twitter | the more the merrier. | Dec 13 15:35 |
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| Omar87 | twitter: Yeah, but that's for GNU/Linux. I'm talking about the proprietary approach in general. | Dec 13 15:35 |
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| twitter | So we see the rise in power of "Criminal groups" the CIA is afraid of. | Dec 13 15:35 |
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| Omar87 | "Criminal groups"? | Dec 13 15:36 |
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| twitter | euphemism for anyone not a corporation or controlled government | Dec 13 15:36 |
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| twitter | there are real criminal groups, extortionists, non free software companies, but different people have different points of view. | Dec 13 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | Like war protesters. | Dec 13 15:37 |
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| twitter | opponents of the death penalty | Dec 13 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | Euphemism for invasion protester. :-) | Dec 13 15:37 |
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| twitter | My favorite analogy for non free software is free software is to wife as non free software is to whore | Dec 13 15:38 |
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| twitter | the wife is your partner and friend, nothing is held back and everyone benefits from the relationship. | Dec 13 15:38 |
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| twitter | the whore is in it for the money and there is no trust in the relationship. | Dec 13 15:39 |
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| twitter | everything is restricted | Dec 13 15:39 |
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| twitter | M$ thinks the same way, developers are "one night stands" and "pawns" | Dec 13 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | It's all about money and sex at the Vole.. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/15/microsoft-... | Dec 13 15:46 |
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| twitter | whores also advertise a lot | Dec 13 15:46 |
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| twitter | it's about as raw and intimate as interpersonal manipulation can get - they ask for access to and control of everything and pretend there is no better way to get things done. | Dec 13 15:48 |
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| twitter | The book "Storyville" has some very good insights into prostitution and an interesting critique stuck in my mind 25 years ago when I read it. (background, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storyville) | Dec 13 15:51 |
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| twitter | A patron said something along the lines of, American whores will always be second rate for the same reason American cars, bread and wines are. It's all business, and the clients don't know any better. | Dec 13 15:53 |
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| twitter | LOL, the queen must have been displeased, -> The Storyville blue-books were inscribed with the motto: "Order of the Garter: Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense (Shame to Him Who Evil Thinks.)" | Dec 13 15:55 |
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| twitter | Good think I'm not in the UK, I'd end up on yet another blacklist for repeating that. | Dec 13 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Dec 13 15:58 |
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| twitter | pardon me, the book was called "Storyville Portraits" | Dec 13 16:03 |
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| twitter | Oh yeah, to complete the analogy, Windows brings various disease with it. | Dec 13 16:05 |
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| twitter | here's a nice page of pictures. http://www.fraenkelgallery.com/artists/ej-bell... | Dec 13 16:18 |
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| twitter | can you identify each version of windows? | Dec 13 16:18 |
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| twitter | Cairo, never really seen http://www.fraenkelgallery.com//data... | Dec 13 16:19 |
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| twitter | the iconic, next version vaporware http://www.sfu.ca/artgallery/imag... | Dec 13 16:20 |
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| twitter | XP, stately and dignified http://www.fraenkelgallery.com//data/ph... | Dec 13 16:20 |
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| twitter | W2k for the Biz Lunch http://www.fraenkelgallery.com/data/ph... | Dec 13 16:22 |
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| twitter | Xbox, cheap thrill, low sales http://www.fraenkelgallery.com/data/phot... | Dec 13 16:23 |
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| twitter | Vista, just does not work for anyone http://www.fraenkelgallery.com//data/ph... | Dec 13 16:24 |
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| twitter | DOS, Win3.1, you did not really know what you were getting into http://www.fraenkelgallery.com//data/photos/4... | Dec 13 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | Same with Mac OS | Dec 13 16:27 |
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| schestowitz | Dude, this is NSFW | Dec 13 16:27 |
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| twitter | oh, sorry, I did not see much wrong with them. | Dec 13 16:28 |
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| twitter | stuff from history books and art galleries | Dec 13 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | And it's not even good NSFW | Dec 13 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | I though I'd see Windows screenshots. | Dec 13 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | Not antiques. | Dec 13 16:29 |
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| twitter | the NSFW antique? | Dec 13 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 13 16:30 |
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| twitter | Only a pervert would run around looking at Windows screenshots. | Dec 13 16:30 |
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| twitter | Did you want me to actually find attractive pictures to represent the antique OS? | Dec 13 16:32 |
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| twitter | There's something deflating about antique porn isn't there? Something that brings home the reality of the whole thing. | Dec 13 16:33 |
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| twitter | exploitation and objectification, like images of slaves in chains or war dead. | Dec 13 16:34 |
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| twitter | Those images were made in 1912, I think the copyright is expired. | Dec 13 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: yes, now we have modern slavery | Dec 13 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | There's also what's commonly referred to as "wage slavery" | Dec 13 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | It is another form of slavery that people are made blind to. | Dec 13 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | Ask someone who was a slaves 100 years ago (or read) if s/he was enslaved... maybe even sweat shop staff... they'll probably tell you that the workers were generous to take care of them and give them a roof | Dec 13 16:43 |
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| schestowitz | If you can emotionally or practically injure someone, then expectations change and you can subjugate with the slave's gratitude. Watch what Microsoft did to Yahoo for example... agitation, hubris, and corruption. | Dec 13 16:44 |
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| twitter | Some people think prostitution should be legalized. I don't not because I don't think people have a right to offer that kind of service but because it is wrong to demand it. | Dec 13 16:45 |
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| twitter | The same thing can be said of non free software. | Dec 13 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | What's what they do in the military BTW. Boot camp... | Dec 13 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | Call people maggots for months and later they'll be thankful for a bed and a Walkman | Dec 13 16:47 |
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| twitter | carrot and stick, the Romans were good at it. | Dec 13 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | Here's the thing. | Dec 13 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | People might have a fight worth fighting if they go under attack. | Dec 13 16:48 |
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| schestowitz | But to recruit people to invade or occupy countries? No thanks! | Dec 13 16:48 |
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| twitter | The Domination series has a good look at what real modern slavery could look like. What we have is not much better, it's a balance of power issue. The more power others have the more enslaved you can be. | Dec 13 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | They suffer a lot 'serving' their country while at the same time suppressing others for a living, so both side (but the responsible 'elites') are in agony | Dec 13 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | It's like programming for Microsoft... what IS it that you do. Write DRM code? For whom? The MAFIAA or the human being? | Dec 13 16:50 |
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| macabe | Every soldier who has seen combat has always been a loser (even if battle were won). | Dec 13 16:55 |
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| twitter | Here's another article about M$'s invasion of the free software world and the supposed new peace, http://www.forbes.com/business/forbe... | Dec 13 16:56 |
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| schestowitz | I've seen many. | Dec 13 16:57 |
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| macabe | People do not understand that "serving your country" is like LAS VEGAS anology. The house has all the odds. | Dec 13 16:57 |
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| twitter | I'm looking for recent patent threats | Dec 13 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | They use open source puppet for this too | Dec 13 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | Their 'send out' open source allies to recommend Microsoft. | Dec 13 16:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Daniel Lyons" Oh, come on...... | Dec 13 16:58 |
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| twitter | yes, he's surely a M$ ally | Dec 13 16:58 |
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| twitter | blind | Dec 13 16:58 |
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| schestowitz | Watch the comment here (from 1 hour ago): "They did that with the help of lackey journalists and naive or ignorant posters on the Internet." < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/12/microsof... > | Dec 13 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | Some people just write based on who approaches them rather than look at the problem at hand or /PROTECT/ the reader | Dec 13 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | I suppose one could do an interview with Saddam or write about the Third Reich wanting peace, but why would anyone do that? It's about abusing people. | Dec 13 17:00 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Dec 13 17:13 |
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| twitter | there we go, added the recent threats. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/219107 The infoworld article, cited above, that claims M$ has backed off on it's patent threat made me angry. How can anyone forget the Red Hat threat for just a month ago? | Dec 13 19:18 |
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| schestowitz | Good page that one... http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/219107 | Dec 13 19:34 |
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| twitter | thanks | Dec 13 20:01 |
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| twitter | They seem to blast the message out every six months or so. They create a constant drizzle with occasional "big deal" announcements. | Dec 13 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | They get hungry and want FOOD. | Dec 13 20:08 |
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| twitter | I think it's more a matter of corporate policy, a constant stream of threats to keep their customers in line. | Dec 13 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | You have many items missing. | Dec 13 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | I could give some pointers, but I'd need to look at the archives too. | Dec 13 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | *Gasp* ripple effects.. "Geneva-based banks and investment funds have lost more than 5 billion Swiss francs ($4.22 billion) in the alleged $50 billion fraud by former Nasdaq chairman Bernard Madoff, Swiss newspaper Le Temps reported on Saturday." < http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServ... > | Dec 13 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | You know what this means. The poorer people with bank accounts will suffer from his fraud even if they never invested in stocks. Moreover, mind the bit that says (not news to me) " former Nasdaq chairman" | Dec 13 20:32 |
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| twitter | I know, there's a lot missing. Xandros, Linspire and other distributions were threatened and caved. | Dec 13 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: there's no rush in indexing this stuff | Dec 13 20:33 |
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| twitter | What I'm collecting is public threats from M$ officials and their shills. | Dec 13 20:33 |
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| twitter | No rush, it's fun. | Dec 13 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | In fact, that's why PJ is taking a semi-break now. She's fetching OCRed stuff she never had the time to put up on GL. | Dec 13 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | They built timelines. | Dec 13 20:34 |
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| twitter | Any and all links are welcome. | Dec 13 20:34 |
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| twitter | Uh oh, there's going to be more of this. IMF loans often were immoral. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con... | Dec 13 21:34 |
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| twitter | " the size of Ecuador's $3.9 billion worth of global bonds -- though four times larger than those held by the Seychelles, the only other country to default this year -- is still relatively small. By comparison, Argentina in 2002 defaulted on a whopping $100 billion in foreign debt." | Dec 13 21:35 |
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| twitter | small for us, large for them. Yesterday's $50 billion scandal was more harmful. | Dec 13 21:36 |
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| twitter | More Badoff, err Madoff, fall out http://www.reuters.com/article/governmentFili... | Dec 13 21:43 |
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| twitter | Another Ecuador story http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2060108... they want better interest rates. | Dec 13 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Added: http://www.prwatch.org/node/feed | Dec 13 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | We should start exploring more broadly... esp. now with so much corruption and lie-telling. | Dec 13 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I just spoke to my mom for like an hour | Dec 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | I hear about people in the US losing their... errr... things. | Dec 13 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | Correa is a buddy of RMS now... Free software guy... they got bitten by FraudStreet | Dec 13 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder how much of his savings RMS lost. He had that prize money tied to an investment plan....:-S | Dec 13 21:55 |
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| twitter | oh no. These days, you can't even be a waiter. | Dec 13 22:03 |
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| twitter | Remember the deluded investor? Here she is again http://bayimg.com/bAmDdaAbH | Dec 13 22:04 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Dec 13 22:04 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* waiter. How many people go to restaurants. | Dec 13 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | ? | Dec 13 22:04 |
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| twitter | them with jobs go out to eat | Dec 13 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | My cousin just sold his Ferrari. I haven't a clue what type of people even buy that stuff. | Dec 13 22:05 |
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| twitter | The very rich always manage | Dec 13 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | My grandpa is at the Zermatterhof and he says it's empty. | Dec 13 22:05 |
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| twitter | I don't have enough money to even look now. | Dec 13 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | You know something's amiss when Geneva banks miss $4 billion after the Madoff row and even the Zermatterhof < http://www.matterhorn-group.ch/d... > is empty. | Dec 13 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | I met and spoke to a British Minister ther.e | Dec 13 22:07 |
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| twitter | Saw Spain had 3 billion Euros in it too. | Dec 13 22:07 |
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| twitter | If ATT has it's way, I won't be able to afford to look at web pages from that far away. | Dec 13 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... | Dec 13 22:08 |
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| PetoKraus | company parties 'suck' | Dec 13 22:27 |
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| PetoKraus | though interestingly enough, i saw Openoffice boxed with one laptop today | Dec 13 22:27 |
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| PetoKraus | it was Dell Outlet system | Dec 13 22:27 |
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| PetoKraus | with a nice dvd case with OOo cover and the CD was with printed "image" of logo of OOO as well | Dec 13 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | though it was a 2.* version | Dec 13 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | Not many parties this yeat. | Dec 13 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah. They gave me free food and free bottle of merlot | Dec 13 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | *year. I go past a place where parties take place every other day. Some days it's not books, _even_ in December. | Dec 13 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | *booked | Dec 13 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | :) | Dec 13 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | Priorities changed. | Dec 13 22:30 |
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| PetoKraus | i can't tell, but your sober typing is more inaccurate than my drunken one | Dec 13 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Red Hat gave to charity and canceled the party. | Dec 13 22:31 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah, you're no longer undergrad student in the halls, are you | Dec 13 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: it's a matter of proofreading. | Dec 13 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | No, studio apartment. | Dec 13 22:31 |
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| PetoKraus | ah well. High ceilings? | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | It's not a chapel. | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | ours are quite high | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | imagine standard doors | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | Unlike that house you showed the other day.. | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | make them higher by 20cm.... | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | and add good 2 yards on top of that | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://tinyurl.com/5wn45a http://tinyurl.com/6m85jj | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | i know :) | Dec 13 22:32 |
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| PetoKraus | how's the day? | Dec 13 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | Which one? | Dec 13 22:35 |
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| PetoKraus | well, it's still saturday, isnae it? | Dec 13 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | Days are short. Just 8 hours. | Dec 13 22:37 |
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| PetoKraus | that's a new one | Dec 13 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | If I go to sleep before 2AM I wake up in darkness (phui) | Dec 13 22:37 |
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| twitter | The other day, I wondered what an exchange between India and Pakistan would do. Physics Today was nice enough to give me an answer: | Dec 13 23:42 |
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| twitter | http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/T... | Dec 13 23:42 |
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| twitter | ugly isn't it? | Dec 13 23:42 |
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| twitter | The Economist recommends GNU/Linux for netbooks http://www.economist.com/science/tq/displa... | Dec 13 23:48 |
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| twitter | this is a no brain decision for people who know GNU/Linux but very good to see in the general press | Dec 13 23:49 |
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| schestowitz | Oooh. I miised that one, thanls. | Dec 13 23:52 |
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| *PetoKraus np: Chewin' the Fat 1x06 - Blow Below the Belt | Dec 13 23:54 |
| PetoKraus | hilarious | Dec 13 23:55 |
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