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| PetoKraus | Unfortunately we are unable to accept the file format you have just tried to upload. | Feb 01 00:10 |
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| PetoKraus | Please save your CV as either a Word Document (.doc or .docx), a Text file (.txt) or in Rich Text Format (.rtf) and try again. | Feb 01 00:10 |
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| PetoKraus | ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?!? No PDF?!? | Feb 01 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Pass them over | Feb 01 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | They are a stupid company, whoever they are | Feb 01 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | You don't need a company that shoves Office and Wordpad down your throad | Feb 01 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | *oat | Feb 01 00:13 |
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| PetoKraus | i thought about renaming the pdf to a doc | Feb 01 00:15 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Feb 01 00:15 |
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| schestowitz | Windows won't hadle it | Feb 01 00:16 |
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| schestowitz | It's not like Linux where files are handled by content | Feb 01 00:16 |
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| PetoKraus | i don't give a damn :D | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | Send a DOC | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| PetoKraus | trgroupscotland.aplitrak.com | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | Put in it, in large fonts | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | The URL of the PDF | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | On your site | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Feb 01 00:17 |
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| PetoKraus | lol | Feb 01 00:20 |
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| PetoKraus | now this is cool | Feb 01 00:20 |
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| PetoKraus | second page - i supplied email and CV in PDF | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | it's got my contact details from somewhere | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | Cool | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | Anyway, I'm off to bed | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | address, name, phone number | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| PetoKraus | i guess it parses the PDF | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | I hope the hosting will have returned by the morning. | Feb 01 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | gn | Feb 01 00:22 |
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| PetoKraus | gn | Feb 01 00:24 |
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| *flyback also wishes he had a hack to run nt4 from livecd or usb flash | Feb 01 00:36 |
| MinceR | http://media.fukung.net/images/11345/7453... | Feb 01 01:06 |
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| twitter | "also wishes he had a hack to run nt4 from livecd or usb flash" Why don't you try to make a virtual box and run it from DSL or similar? | Feb 01 01:36 |
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| flyback | uh | Feb 01 01:37 |
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| flyback | p150mmx | Feb 01 01:37 |
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| flyback | 64 meg ram | Feb 01 01:37 |
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| twitter | nt4 should fit into that. | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| flyback | yes but I don't have a hd :P | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| twitter | DSL will manage it well. | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| flyback | I NEED A WINDOWS PROGRAM | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| MinceR | lol | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| twitter | later MinceR | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| flyback | I could try to run wine but it's going to probably be too painful | Feb 01 01:38 |
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| twitter | why do you think that? | Feb 01 01:39 |
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| twitter | wine works very well. | Feb 01 01:39 |
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| flyback | again | Feb 01 01:40 |
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| flyback | P150 | Feb 01 01:40 |
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| flyback | 64 MEG RAM | Feb 01 01:40 |
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| twitter | again, DSL + wine. | Feb 01 01:40 |
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| flyback | there's just no way that's going to run well | Feb 01 01:41 |
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| twitter | I have not tried wine on my 233 MHz PII. I might if I had some kind of Windows anything that I needed. | Feb 01 01:41 |
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| flyback | btw this is a laptop or I wouldn't even try :P | Feb 01 01:41 |
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| twitter | The poor thing is a little slow with Lenny, but it's not bad. | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| flyback | the program is a really nice serial comm/debug program | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| flyback | there is NO linux equivalent | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| twitter | ????! | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| flyback | the program does work in wine but I doubt the box can run the overhead | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| flyback | minicom does not do hex, bin, show pins firing, show control characters | Feb 01 01:42 |
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| flyback | or do advanced logging and redirects over telnet etc | Feb 01 01:43 |
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| twitter | kernel devs have been using serial ports for a long time, I'm sure there's software that does what you want. | Feb 01 01:43 |
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| twitter | What OS are you using with that old laptop anyway? | Feb 01 01:44 |
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| *flyback beats his head into the wall playing this retorical questioning | Feb 01 01:44 |
| flyback | none yet again it doesn't have a hd | Feb 01 01:44 |
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| flyback | hence the whole canucking comment I made int he first canucking place | Feb 01 01:44 |
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| twitter | you said you got it working with a CD the other day. | Feb 01 01:45 |
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| flyback | it's missing the caddy or I would slap in a hd from my collection | Feb 01 01:45 |
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| twitter | what OS did you use. | Feb 01 01:45 |
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| flyback | yeah off linux and some dos stuff | Feb 01 01:45 |
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| flyback | but it was very slow and iffy | Feb 01 01:45 |
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| *flyback ponders linux console + qemu + nt4 | Feb 01 01:46 |
| flyback | bah | Feb 01 01:49 |
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| flyback | I can get a caddy for $5 online | Feb 01 01:49 |
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| flyback | hell with it | Feb 01 01:49 |
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| *flyback finds it odd that 2 streaming anime sites are having problems and suspects something is up | Feb 01 02:11 |
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| *flyback makes a noob mistake not realizeing that most linux distros have switched to the floppy drive being a module, duah | Feb 01 03:06 |
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| tessier__ | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn... | Feb 01 03:47 |
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| tessier__ | Another BN link. I'm running across more and more it seems. | Feb 01 03:47 |
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| flyback | http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/corpaffr/r... <-- old but reminds of me of why I said "YOU STUPID CANUCKS" | Feb 01 04:09 |
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| Cable | Hello! | Feb 01 04:22 |
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| matt123 | Hi, i was trying to find a blog site, called something like 'me and ubuntu' does anyone know the address? | Feb 01 04:36 |
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| xlotlu_ | guys, articles pushed through coral CDN get redirected around in circles | Feb 01 05:24 |
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| schestowitz | Site's back | Feb 01 05:43 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: hi | Feb 01 05:44 |
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| schestowitz | Thankfully you came here. Do you know what happened? | Feb 01 05:44 |
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| schestowitz | Despite downtime we might make another FP: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bill_Gates_on_Lin... | Feb 01 05:45 |
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| schestowitz | I've disabled the Coral redirect for now. | Feb 01 05:46 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: http://dpaste.com/115216/ | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Feb 01 05:48 |
| schestowitz | Are you with Coral? | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| xlotlu | that's a proxy that does a check itself to avoid looping | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| xlotlu | no, just a random user | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | We had too much load on the server. | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | Let me monitor it now. | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| xlotlu | if you hit a coral proxy that doesn't do the check, you finally get the browser giving up | Feb 01 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | I've just woken up | Feb 01 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: Cortal has always been cryptic to me | Feb 01 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sometimes it fails to work | Feb 01 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | It's touch and go | Feb 01 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | Internal server ewrror can be common | Feb 01 05:49 |
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| schestowitz | But I have no choice but to use it, otherwise the server falls over | Feb 01 05:50 |
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| schestowitz | (which it did last night at 8pm GMT | Feb 01 05:50 |
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| schestowitz | Give me a moment to check what happened | Feb 01 05:50 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: basically, the server should check if the request came through coral, and issue the redirect appropriately | Feb 01 05:51 |
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| xlotlu | their FAQ says matching for CoralWebPrx in HTTP_USER_AGENT | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | I see.... | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: how would that be achieved? | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| schestowitz | in .htaccess terms? | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: http://wiki.coralcdn.org/w... | Feb 01 05:53 |
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| xlotlu | RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !^CoralWebPrx | Feb 01 05:54 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Feb 01 05:56 |
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| xlotlu | oh, and you should probably redirect with HTTP 302 instead of 301 (which means moved permanently) | Feb 01 05:56 |
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| schestowitz | Let me see.. | Feb 01 05:57 |
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| Ziggy2 | back | Feb 01 05:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy2: yes, since when, I wonder... | Feb 01 05:57 |
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| schestowitz | I'll do some links shortly | Feb 01 05:57 |
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| Ziggy2 | k, thanks (yeah felt like watching a movie) | Feb 01 05:57 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: like this? | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | <IfModule mod_rewrite.c> | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteEngine On | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteBase / | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !^CoralWebPrx | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteRule . /index.php [L] | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | </IfModule> | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| *schestowitz is no Apache expert | Feb 01 05:58 |
| Ziggy2 | schestowitz: what was the question ( I know a bit about apache) | Feb 01 05:58 |
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| schestowitz | "Redirect permanent " - how to make it 302... just omit "permanent"? | Feb 01 05:59 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy2: I want to avoid looping | Feb 01 05:59 |
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| xlotlu | Ziggy2: the server was doing a loop redirecting via the coral CDN | Feb 01 05:59 |
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| schestowitz | We might make another FP, which means another chance of falling over | Feb 01 05:59 |
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| schestowitz | We didn't fall like this since Dec 07 when we made Slashdot unprepared | Feb 01 05:59 |
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| schestowitz | Slashdot linked to main page, which had the DB thrashing. | Feb 01 06:00 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: does that look right? | Feb 01 06:00 |
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| Ziggy2 | something like this redirect 301 /old/old.htm http://www.you.com/new.htm? | Feb 01 06:00 |
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| Ziggy2 | or redirectMatch 301 ^(.*)$ http://www.domain.com | Feb 01 06:01 |
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| Ziggy2 | redirectMatch permanent ^(.*)$ http://www.domain.com | Feb 01 06:01 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: the RewriteRule is definitely not right :) | Feb 01 06:01 |
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| schestowitz | Question mark ?? | Feb 01 06:01 |
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| schestowitz | ld/old.htm http://www.you.com/new.htm? << Q mark? | Feb 01 06:02 |
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| Ziggy2 | no ? | Feb 01 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | Just checking | Feb 01 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | I know it's a Question... | Feb 01 06:02 |
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| Ziggy2 | http://www.isitebuild.com/30... is where I found it | Feb 01 06:03 |
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| schestowitz | Let's test it | Feb 01 06:03 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy2: thanks | Feb 01 06:03 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: thanks for the help | Feb 01 06:03 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: i _think_ it should be something like RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://boycottnovel.com.nyud.net$1 [R,L] | Feb 01 06:04 |
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| schestowitz | The redir doesn't work | Feb 01 06:04 |
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| schestowitz | But I think it's Coral to blame... | Feb 01 06:04 |
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| schestowitz | I disabled it for now | Feb 01 06:04 |
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| schestowitz | I now see the stats | Feb 01 06:05 |
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| schestowitz | Holy shit | Feb 01 06:05 |
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| schestowitz | Over half a million hits in like 4 hours | Feb 01 06:06 |
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| Ziggy2 | nice | Feb 01 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | No wonder it fell, that's not incluuding Corta | Feb 01 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | With Coral it must be over a million | Feb 01 06:06 |
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| Ziggy2 | that's good new, The site is becoming popular | Feb 01 06:06 |
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| schestowitz | I was before.. | Feb 01 06:07 |
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| schestowitz | But this is the first time in over a year it falls over for hours | Feb 01 06:07 |
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| schestowitz | It made me upset yesterday | Feb 01 06:08 |
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| schestowitz | I told people to mirror and copy the thing | Feb 01 06:08 |
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| schestowitz | I want people to know about it, but many got turned away | Feb 01 06:08 |
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| schestowitz | Update on ACPI situation... | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | "I was going to mention this on #boycottnovell but forgot: | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk... | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | If you look at the bottom, it looks like someone (probably Homer) was valiantly trying to edit the ACPI article on Wikpedia and came up with some resistance from mostly the same people who were responsible for suppressing the criticisms: "Jimmi Hugh", "FreeRangeFrog" and "Warren". The latter brings in emacsuser's proposed edits of the "Microsoft Windows" article, to which "emacsuser" rightly claimed an ad hominem attack. "Jimmi H | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | ugh" objects to using "boycottnovell" as a source. " | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | "The net result is that the article has not changed and it still has a very watered down criticism of ACPI (in fact, in one sense, it seems to place the blame on driver writers on not on the specification itself.)" | Feb 01 06:09 |
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| schestowitz | Server Load 3.49 (4 cpus) | Feb 01 06:11 |
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| Ziggy2 | nice | Feb 01 06:11 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks, Ziggy2. I'm just gonna get ready now (shower and all) and then catch up, do links | Feb 01 06:13 |
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| schestowitz | I have some good posts in line too | Feb 01 06:13 |
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| *schestowitz updates post about layoffs | Feb 01 06:16 |
| schestowitz | benJIman: I'll wait until more reports come about the layoffs | Feb 01 06:16 |
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| Ziggy2 | is it my computer is it that "'s are now B and C? | Feb 01 06:19 |
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| Ziggy2 | like Bbasically an across-the-board reduction of 25 percentC | Feb 01 06:20 |
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| Ziggy2 | (that's what I see in the posts | Feb 01 06:20 |
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| Ziggy2 | could be using a different font | Feb 01 06:21 |
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| schestowitz | Let me check | Feb 01 06:24 |
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| schestowitz | It looks OK | Feb 01 06:24 |
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| Ziggy2 | must be my computer | Feb 01 06:24 |
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| schestowitz | Can you give a specific example I can compare with? | Feb 01 06:24 |
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| Ziggy2 | in the article "Novell Lays Off Around 1,000 Employees (Corrected)", “basically an across-the-board reduction of 25 percent” appears as Bbasically an across-the-board reduction of 25 percentC | Feb 01 06:25 |
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| schestowitz | Ziggy2: works fine here. | Feb 01 06:29 |
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| schestowitz | “basically an across-the-board reduction of 25 percent” | Feb 01 06:30 |
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| schestowitz | These are 'fancy' quotes (unicode I think?) | Feb 01 06:30 |
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| Ziggy2 | oh, ok | Feb 01 06:30 |
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| xlotlu | Ziggy2: probably a font with poor utf-8 support (i.e. missing the "smartquotes") | Feb 01 06:30 |
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| Ziggy2 | that;s better, change the font and it fixed the problem | Feb 01 06:31 |
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| schestowitz | xlotlu: it's a WP 'feature' | Feb 01 06:32 |
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| schestowitz | Creeps in the way often | Feb 01 06:32 |
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| schestowitz | For example, many text editor fudge it... can't use normal quotes for valid XHTML, etc. | Feb 01 06:33 |
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| xlotlu | schestowitz: the WP typographical features are usually nice. except when writing code, when they're utter misfeatures :) | Feb 01 06:33 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, slashes too | Feb 01 06:33 |
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| schestowitz | It was worse in WP 1.2 | Feb 01 06:33 |
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| schestowitz | It could really make text disappear if I got my markup wrong. VERY annoying. | Feb 01 06:34 |
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| Ziggy2 | I was thinking that you put the B's and C's to signify that the Statement was Bull Crap | Feb 01 06:34 |
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| schestowitz | I updated that post | Feb 01 06:42 |
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| schestowitz | The source was not correct | Feb 01 06:42 |
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| schestowitz | Twitters from Novell were wrong | Feb 01 06:42 |
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| schestowitz | WTF? http://www.gnu.org/thankgnus/20... | Feb 01 06:46 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft puts money in the GNU?? | Feb 01 06:47 |
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| Ziggy2 | I like how Google is also in there | Feb 01 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | [H]omer pointed this out in USENET | Feb 01 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | And replying to him -- former MS employee | Feb 01 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | Greg Cox | Feb 01 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | They justidy this | Feb 01 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | *justify. With money on the table, it'll be harder for RMS to criticise the criminal org. | Feb 01 06:51 |
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| schestowitz | ushimitsudoki: did you see "<matt123> Hi, i was trying to find a blog site, called something like 'me and ubuntu' does anyone know the address?" | Feb 01 06:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Server Load 5.77 (4 cpus)" | Feb 01 07:13 |
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| schestowitz | Not good....... | Feb 01 07:13 |
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| schestowitz | Good morning, Omar871 | Feb 01 07:15 |
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| Omar871 | Hey schestowitz, Good morning. :) | Feb 01 07:19 |
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| *flyback wonders if there are any supernatural anime series where the camera isn't up the girl's skirt 97% of the time wtf | Feb 01 07:24 |
| schestowitz | flyback: why, does it bother you? | Feb 01 07:27 |
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| flyback | yeah | Feb 01 07:27 |
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| flyback | I don't watch anime to wack off | Feb 01 07:28 |
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| flyback | sheesh | Feb 01 07:28 |
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| Ziggy1 | Vista 7 sucks, I have not seen a feature yet that is not already in Linux | Feb 01 07:28 |
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| schestowitz | The Turfs love it | Feb 01 07:28 |
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| schestowitz | There is a naked emperor phenomenon out there. | Feb 01 07:28 |
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| Ziggy1 | I'm watching Chris pirillo do his videos on it | Feb 01 07:29 |
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| schestowitz | Watch the shills go: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/win-7... | Feb 01 07:29 |
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| schestowitz | It's called "buzz marketing" | Feb 01 07:29 |
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| Ziggy1 | He's talking about Areo shake, it's funny to see him go from smart to kind of dumb | Feb 01 07:32 |
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| schestowitz | He loves Compiz-Fusion | Feb 01 07:33 |
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| Ziggy1 | didn't know that | Feb 01 07:34 |
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| schestowitz | He also slams some of Microsoft's stuff. He'd be better off joining us. MVPs are rotting like Microsoft's ship | Feb 01 07:40 |
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| schestowitz | He came to WordPress some years ago... so he's already dabbling with FOSS that impresses him. | Feb 01 07:40 |
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| flyback | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/20... | Feb 01 07:40 |
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| Ziggy1 | heh | Feb 01 07:41 |
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| schestowitz | There's "Cooking with Pooh" | Feb 01 07:42 |
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| schestowitz | It was on Jay Leno's show some years ago (circa 2004) | Feb 01 07:42 |
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| flyback | http://failblog.org/page/2/ | Feb 01 07:45 |
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| flyback | HHAHAHA | Feb 01 07:45 |
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| flyback | driving fail | Feb 01 07:45 |
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| flyback | http://failblog.org/2009/01/2... <-- don't iron while smashed, k thx | Feb 01 07:46 |
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| flyback | http://failblog.org/2009/01/27... | Feb 01 07:48 |
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| *flyback falls over | Feb 01 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Ziggy1: can you look through this one for me.. proofreading..? | Feb 01 07:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/0... | Feb 01 07:56 |
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| flyback | http://failblog.org/2009/01/08... <---- omgwtfbbq hahahahahaah double darwin awards | Feb 01 08:05 |
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| schestowitz | Good comments here: http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_managem... | Feb 01 08:08 |
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| Ziggy1 | schestowitz: sorry went out for a bit | Feb 01 09:04 |
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| Ziggy1 | schestowitz: looks good | Feb 01 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | The site spews some errors again | Feb 01 09:49 |
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| schestowitz | And we might hit the FP again.. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bill_Gate... :-S | Feb 01 09:50 |
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| schestowitz | I'll set up cache just in case | Feb 01 09:50 |
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| schestowitz | OK, done. | Feb 01 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | Redirect 301 /2009/01/31/huge-driver-group-billg/ http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:80... | Feb 01 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !^CoralWebPrx | Feb 01 09:55 |
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| GoblinRFD | Good morning. | Feb 01 10:13 |
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| Ziggy1 | good afternoon | Feb 01 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Feb 01 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | Just posted: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/01/win... | Feb 01 10:15 |
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| amarsh04 | schestowitz, I should have left "Darryl" with the last comment on that linuxtoday.com link you posted, but suggested he read a bit more widely: http://www.amazon.com/Portraits-Silicon-Ro... | Feb 01 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | Do you read LT too? | Feb 01 10:19 |
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| amarsh04 | mainly lt | Feb 01 10:20 |
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| amarsh04 | I didn't let "Darryl" know that John Lions, Linus Torvalds and Dennis Ritchie were all at the Australian Unix Users Group conference in September 1994 - was a good conference | Feb 01 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | Carla's articles are great | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| schestowitz | That Darryl thing trolls BN as well | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| amarsh04 | yes, being someone who does "how to" articles and books makes her a good "hands-on" person | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| schestowitz | If you feed it, it spews more | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| amarsh04 | he is supposedly in Sydney | Feb 01 10:21 |
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| amarsh04 | I post useful references for others in the process (-: | Feb 01 10:22 |
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| Ziggy1 | nice article | Feb 01 10:23 |
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| Ziggy1 | brb going to watch dextor | Feb 01 10:23 |
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| amarsh04 | Darryl claimed that Linus Torvalds used John Lions' Commentary on UNIX 6th Edition, with Source Code to write Linux | Feb 01 10:23 |
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| amarsh04 | that's not the way Linus described it when speaking in front of John Lions and Dennis Ritchie | Feb 01 10:24 |
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| amarsh04 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_... | Feb 01 10:24 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: yes, he's Australian | Feb 01 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | That was not news to me. He uses hotmail too (consistently) | Feb 01 10:25 |
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| amarsh04 | it's a bit like Dick van Dyke's character in A Night at the Museum suggesting to Ben Stiller's character to learn some history | Feb 01 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: that Ken story is back, eh? | Feb 01 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | And variations thereof | Feb 01 10:26 |
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| amarsh04 | which "Ken story"? | Feb 01 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | That Dennis Byron brought it back a while ago | Feb 01 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | Russinovich (?? spelling ??) did this in a MS conference some years back | Feb 01 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | It originate from MS... a big lies that even got /me/... I thought Linux had been derived from MINIX | Feb 01 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | Ken Brown, IIRC | Feb 01 10:27 |
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| schestowitz | Alexis Institute or something... | Feb 01 10:27 |
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| amarsh04 | Alexis de Torquetville Institute ADTI - I'd happily forgotten all of that | Feb 01 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft hasn't | Feb 01 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | Its talking points seem to include it | Feb 01 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | Linux=stealing | Feb 01 10:28 |
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| schestowitz | Good fit for propaganda, no? | Feb 01 10:28 |
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| amarsh04 | some people seem to forget that lots of people were trying to invent the telephone, radio, powered flight and all manner of other things at the same time | Feb 01 10:30 |
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| amarsh04 | sometimes all the pieces were there already invented, but just had to be put together the right way | Feb 01 10:31 |
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| amarsh04 | the Wright brothers might have been first with controlled powered fight, but their patents set back the us aviation industry | Feb 01 10:31 |
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| amarsh04 | it is wrong to give one person or company credit for "standing on the shoulders of giants" | Feb 01 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: precisely | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | Same with the lamp | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | People who are humble give credit to the input | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | "Invention"= output | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| amarsh04 | edison versus swann | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | Output=assembly of input | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | "It was Edison who said "1% inspiration, 99% perspiration". That may have been true a hundred years ago. These days it's "0.01% inspiration, 99.99% perspiration", and the inspiration is the easy part. " | Feb 01 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | " As a project manager, I have never had trouble finding people with crazy ideas. I have trouble finding people who can execute. IOW, "innovation" is way oversold. And it sure as hell shouldn't be applied to products like MS Word or Open office." --Linus Torvald | Feb 01 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants," Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727) | Feb 01 10:34 |
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| amarsh04 | I'm reminded when our ee lecturers would quiz us on who invented the transistor | Feb 01 10:35 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 01 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: who did? | Feb 01 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | Did the Neanderthal sketch it from scratch, so to speak? | Feb 01 10:36 |
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| amarsh04 | William Shockley, James Bardeen, Walter Brattain (sp) | Feb 01 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | Apple 'invented' the dock | Feb 01 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft 'invented' paging | Feb 01 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft also hold 'the' patent on tabbed browsing! | Feb 01 10:37 |
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| *amarsh04 went through comp sci on vaxen | Feb 01 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Wow. did you know 400k due every year in the US from tobacco? | Feb 01 10:39 |
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| schestowitz | According to this, 50 million in China will die from these illegal substances from the US... | Feb 01 10:42 |
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| amarsh04 | die? | Feb 01 10:42 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Feb 01 10:42 |
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| amarsh04 | more women in .au die as a result of lung cancer than as a result of breast cancer | Feb 01 10:42 |
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| schestowitz | Some scientist from Cambridge estimated this | Feb 01 10:42 |
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| schestowitz | My grandma died from smoking | Feb 01 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | Actually, maybe my uncle too | Feb 01 10:43 |
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| amarsh04 | swmbo's mum did also | Feb 01 10:43 |
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| amarsh04 | SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed. (From Rumpole of the Bailey) | Feb 01 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | Ah... you lost me there for a second./ | Feb 01 10:48 |
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| schestowitz | wb, oiaohm2 | Feb 01 10:48 |
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| oiaohm2 | You are doing very well. schestowitz . I somehow think you could run your blog for another 10 years on the matterial that exists around the mess of Microsoft if they don't create any more. | Feb 01 10:52 |
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| schestowitz | We have like 10000 exhibits. | Feb 01 10:53 |
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| schestowitz | I got some suggestions I implement right now. | Feb 01 10:53 |
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| amarsh04 | I see that http://www.bermanexposed.org/ is online | Feb 01 10:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Hi, Roy, | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | Here's a gem: | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | Are we truly prepared to draw up a statement that speaks | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | for all of us as a people and a nation, that serves as a | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | catalyst for the surrender of the free flow of | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | information not to an institution defined by principles, | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | but a corporation defined by deception? | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2007/12..." | Feb 01 10:54 |
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| *schestowitz looks at bermanexposed.org | Feb 01 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's people like him, Nathan Myhrvold, Carl Ichan etc that need to be jailed or exiled | Feb 01 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | They ruin their own countries for self gain | Feb 01 10:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bermanexposed.org/facts ... hmm... I can't helping thinking of Madoff. | Feb 01 10:56 |
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| schestowitz | "Each year, Berman, using his front groups to spread misinformation, spends millions of dollars distracting the public with misleading ads." | Feb 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | "Richard Berman has been a regular front man for business and industry in campaigns against consumer safety and environmental groups. Through his public affairs firm, Berman and Company, Berman has fought unions, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, PETA and other watchdog groups in their efforts to raise awareness about obesity, the minimum wage, the dangers of smoking, mad cow disease, drunk driving, and other causes. Berman runs at l | Feb 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | east 15 industry-funded front groups and projects, such as the Center for Union Facts and holds 16 "positions" in those organizations." | Feb 01 10:58 |
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| oiaohm2 | Some how I woulder if a trival game about all Microsoft evils would marketable. | Feb 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | You know what's intresting? This site is hosted in PANAMA! | Feb 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: what do you suggest? | Feb 01 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | There is no money in fighting corruption | Feb 01 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | balzak raised this as an issue before, e.g. selling advice and information about Microsoft's crime | Feb 01 10:59 |
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| oiaohm2 | Something like triva pusut or some other game like it. | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| oiaohm2 | Doing better for more of the evils you know. | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, true... | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | PJ is still around | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | She knows this stuff pretty well too | Feb 01 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=htt... | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 270 .columns Property -moz-column-width doesn't exist : 12em | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 271 .columns Property -moz-column-gap doesn't exist : 1em | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 272 .columns Property -moz-column-rule doesn't exist : medium solid | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 273 .columns Property -webkit-column-width doesn't exist : 12em | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 274 .columns Property -webkit-column-gap doesn't exist : 1em | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | >> 275 .columns Property -webkit-column-rule doesn't exist : medium solid | Feb 01 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | That's for multi column. They don't like it... just like <video> for Ogg... HTML/W3C is being left being by Apple, Nokia and all those cronies like Chris Wilson from Microsoft | Feb 01 11:02 |
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| oiaohm2 | Those tags are all not part of the offical standard. | Feb 01 11:03 |
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| oiaohm2 | Ok hopefully a standard for them does get added at some point. | Feb 01 11:03 |
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| amarsh04 | I keep hounding .gov.au webmasters that claim to meet w3.org accessibility guidelines but fail to have valid html | Feb 01 11:04 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: yes, I know. | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| oiaohm2 | Define of valid html is a hard one. | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | Some readers complained about them, that's all. | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | PS. I notice misuse of the META elements. Each page's meta elements | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | have exactly the same content. Search engines ignore that, so it is a | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | waste of bandwidth and needs to be removed. Having a unique summary for | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | the actual page there is, however, valuable. | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | PPS. I think that one reason the layout is always a little hammered is | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | that absolute measurements have crept in. It'll be worth the work to | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | swap out px for em or percent so as to get a scalable page. | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | ---------- | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | Are meta tags so important anyway? | Feb 01 11:07 |
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| oiaohm2 | To search engines not so much any more. | Feb 01 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | I could do some coding to fetch page excerpt for meta | Feb 01 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: yes, I know too that they are ignored | Feb 01 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | For indexers or things like Alexa/Web dirs they might matter | Feb 01 11:08 |
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| oiaohm2 | For indexers they do matter. | Feb 01 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | I'm making a distinct style for evidence. | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | blockquote.evidence { | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | margin: 0 20px; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | padding: 0.05em 20px; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | border-top: 1px solid #CCC; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | border-bottom: 1px solid #CCC; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | background: url(http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/the...) repeat-y; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | font-size: 1.5em; | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | } | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | The issue is, not all pages have an except | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | So this complicates doing meta 'on the fly' | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | I'll let it rest | Feb 01 11:09 |
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| oiaohm2 | One day indexing engines may grow the means to process pages like google crawlers do. | Feb 01 11:10 |
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| schestowitz | Like Time Machine? | Feb 01 11:12 |
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| schestowitz | That can't be good for the environment (astronomical tables) | Feb 01 11:13 |
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| oiaohm2 | Kinda like Time Machine more like http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/ . Something that no matter the document passed in it will process it and index it. | Feb 01 11:15 |
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| oiaohm2 | Had some fun with beranger recently. Got him to the point of threating to delete all future posts. Only one problem he was wrong so I can still post. Some of these attackers really need to learn there internals. | Feb 01 11:19 |
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| schestowitz | Sigh | Feb 01 11:21 |
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| schestowitz | Now there's a new error | Feb 01 11:21 |
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| oiaohm2 | Ok schestowitz I don't know what is worse. What I have been doing for the last 3 weeks or what you are trying to do. Last 3 weeks have had to perform a full audit on a 2003 server yes filesystem permissions included. | Feb 01 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | All the services are up | Feb 01 11:22 |
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| Ziggy1 | back | Feb 01 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks | Feb 01 11:23 |
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| schestowitz | The site ain't back though | Feb 01 11:23 |
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| schestowitz | "It doesn't look like you've installed WP yet. Try running install.php." | Feb 01 11:24 |
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| oiaohm2 | I fell sorry for my poor under person. They have about a 20 000 page document to produce from my notes on the errors in the server. | Feb 01 11:25 |
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| Ziggy1 | nice | Feb 01 11:25 |
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| oiaohm2 | Funny enough the system some how was not breached. | Feb 01 11:25 |
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| oiaohm2 | Note that is only the secuirty errors found turned into normal english. | Feb 01 11:26 |
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| oiaohm2 | I am really looking forward to my week off. | Feb 01 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | The Wiki works... http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index... | Feb 01 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/... | Feb 01 11:27 |
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| oiaohm2 | I am not looking forward to the week after I get back. I then have to assemble a interface system for it to prevent the mess happening all over again. | Feb 01 11:28 |
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| oiaohm2 | Wiki are fairly bomb proff. There is about only one way to majorly stuff them up. Point them to the wrong database. | Feb 01 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | Now it doesn't resolve | Feb 01 11:29 |
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| schestowitz | It has been up and down for a whilew | Feb 01 11:30 |
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| schestowitz | Too much hammering on one of the pages.. | Feb 01 11:30 |
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| oiaohm2 | Ok please don't be like the firewall server were I was. It had intermitant ram. | Feb 01 11:32 |
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| oiaohm2 | Yep what started me into the nightmare. | Feb 01 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: any idea what happens in BoycottNovell? | Feb 01 11:33 |
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| schestowitz | have a look | Feb 01 11:33 |
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| schestowitz | WHAT?? | Feb 01 11:34 |
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| schestowitz | My DB is gone | Feb 01 11:34 |
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| oiaohm2 | Yep that would explain the failure. | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | How can this be???? | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| oiaohm2 | I hope you do backups. | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | I do | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| Ziggy1 | does this sound to much like a coincidence http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10154056-93.html... | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | But not very recent | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| Ziggy1 | Scott Moore, who left Microsoft four years ago for Yahoo, is returning to Redmond as U.S. executive producer to lead MSN's content and programming strategy, AllThings D reported Friday. | Feb 01 11:35 |
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| oiaohm2 | Has the machine been unstable. | Feb 01 11:36 |
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| oiaohm2 | Bad ram can cause MYSQL databases to self destruct. | Feb 01 11:36 |
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| schestowitz | Hack job maybe | Feb 01 11:36 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: yes, it was unstable | Feb 01 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: can the host restore it? | Feb 01 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | Or rather... will it just repear? | Feb 01 11:37 |
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| oiaohm2 | If they keep backups yes. | Feb 01 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | I have one from earlier I think. | Feb 01 11:37 |
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| Ziggy1 | anyway I'm going to bed cya | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| schestowitz | But the server wasn't quite so heavily hammered some moments ago | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| oiaohm2 | Double check they have fixed the server. | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| schestowitz | I just wrote a post and right in the middle.. | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| schestowitz | Wait.. | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| oiaohm2 | Bad ram kinda required work on server. | Feb 01 11:38 |
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| oiaohm2 | Hammered if a Linux box should not equal crashes but just link failures. | Feb 01 11:39 |
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| oiaohm2 | Or even solarias. crashes equal something dieing hardware or breach. More often than not ram. | Feb 01 11:40 |
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| schestowitz | So what would you do now? | Feb 01 11:41 |
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| schestowitz | Wait for host? | Feb 01 11:41 |
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| schestowitz | If I restore from BU, then you know... they can't quite restore, can they? | Feb 01 11:41 |
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| oiaohm2 | Depends on there backup system. | Feb 01 11:41 |
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| oiaohm2 | I never worked with your host before. | Feb 01 11:41 |
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| oiaohm2 | Normally before hosting with a company I would have there backup and restore system on file for critical times like this access to know what action will or will not make the loss worse. | Feb 01 11:43 |
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| amarsh04 | back later... | Feb 01 11:44 |
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| oiaohm2 | I guess you don't have mayday server option with them. | Feb 01 11:44 |
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| schestowitz | Is it possible that the DB is just temporarily inaccesible? | Feb 01 11:44 |
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| schestowitz | That it didn't exactly vanish? | Feb 01 11:44 |
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| oiaohm2 | Can you access any other DB in the database system. | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| oiaohm2 | I guess so since wiki is working. | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | I have 2 | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| oiaohm2 | So its not database server down. | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | One just disappeared | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm2: mysel is up (cpanel status report0 | Feb 01 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | The DB just isn't there. | Feb 01 11:46 |
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| oiaohm2 | Disapeared is not exactly good. There are very limited numbers of things that could have happened. | Feb 01 11:46 |
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| oiaohm2 | 1) Damaged by hardware malfuction effecting write so main database is no longer readable to database server. | Feb 01 11:47 |
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| oiaohm2 | 2) For some reason permissions on database file releating to that DB have got stuffed up(best option). | Feb 01 11:47 |
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| schestowitz | Should I restore from BU? | Feb 01 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | Your call | Feb 01 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | It has been like 20 minutes without DB | Feb 01 11:48 |
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| oiaohm2 | I would restore into a different database name. Very good reason so any backfiles of the old database are hopefully left untouched. I guess you cannot wait for inspection of the server. | Feb 01 11:49 |
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| schestowitz | And then what.. merge diffs? | Feb 01 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | If there's a restoration, I might as well have it done now. | Feb 01 11:50 |
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| oiaohm2 | Yep | Feb 01 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | So what do you suggest? | Feb 01 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | Reload under another name? | Feb 01 11:51 |
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| oiaohm2 | Also leaves behind evidence incase it was some form of hardware failure. | Feb 01 11:51 |
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| oiaohm2 | Worst case here is if it something releating to drives being on bad cables. | Feb 01 11:51 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Feb 01 11:51 |
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| oiaohm2 | I would also be backing up your other database while you can. | Feb 01 11:51 |
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| oiaohm2 | Yes lost 1 lossing 2 is worse. | Feb 01 11:52 |
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| PetoKraus | Debian RC2 out | Feb 01 11:52 |
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| schestowitz | If I rename the tar file, will restoring mysql give the DB a different name? | Feb 01 11:53 |
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| oiaohm2 | I have not touched how to resore under different name in mysql in over 6 months. | Feb 01 11:53 |
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| oiaohm2 | Start backing up the wiki database now then work out how to restore the other one. | Feb 01 11:54 |
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| oiaohm2 | I always love providers with mayday servers. Because I would just restore everything on mayday and leave the main for inspection. | Feb 01 11:54 |
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| schestowitz | Resorting... | Feb 01 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | In 5 years with mysql DBs this never happened to me | Feb 01 11:59 |
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| oiaohm2 | I had it 4 times in 3 months due to defective hardware. Bad batched for ram and harddrives. | Feb 01 12:00 |
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| oiaohm2 | Basically segate failures recently pissed me off majorly. | Feb 01 12:00 |
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| schestowitz | Seagate is bad.. not just technically | Feb 01 12:01 |
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| oiaohm2 | Recentlly they have been technically bad. | Feb 01 12:01 |
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| oiaohm2 | Most of the time Seagates have been technically ok. | Feb 01 12:02 |
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| *amarsh04 was using mysql for dns/dhcp data at adelaide.edu.au but it was upgraded to oracle (used perl's DBI to make the change-over easy) | Feb 01 12:02 |
| oiaohm2 | I have had bad drive batches from all drive makers. | Feb 01 12:03 |
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| *amarsh04 managed to get data off a toshiba mk56f before it died way back, then onto wd caviar drives, and now still have a 10+ year old IBM scsi drive | Feb 01 12:04 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: any advice on this case? | Feb 01 12:05 |
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| schestowitz | I hope to restore into a news lot and then redirect WP to that slot | Feb 01 12:05 |
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| amarsh04 | no, haven't touched mysql in 6 years | Feb 01 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | It's taking ages to restore the DC | Feb 01 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | 20MB | Feb 01 12:06 |
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| oiaohm2 | I have a still working IBM Death Star | Feb 01 12:06 |
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| amarsh04 | I backed up mysql data to text every day in a weekly rotation to safeguard against losses | Feb 01 12:07 |
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| oiaohm2 | Yes I disasmbled it in a clean room and fixed its problem. | Feb 01 12:07 |
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| amarsh04 | ide drive in this machine is a samsung - slow but ok | Feb 01 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | OK, resotred as new DB | Feb 01 12:08 |
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| oiaohm2 | Future with database schestowitz have a really good backup system. | Feb 01 12:08 |
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| amarsh04 | the temperature read-outs from SMART frighten me sometimes - hit 61 C this weekend | Feb 01 12:08 |
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| oiaohm2 | There are many ways to bring even the best database into data failure. | Feb 01 12:08 |
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| amarsh04 | did you both see the xkcd cartoon about Bobby tables? | Feb 01 12:09 |
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| amarsh04 | the child whose name ended in "'); drop table students;" | Feb 01 12:10 |
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| oiaohm2 | One of the the groups here schestowitz runs like wp off line and uploads the database changes. So two locations have to fail to loss there posts. Ok replies get lost since the off line one never has replies stored. | Feb 01 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | WTF? | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | It's like the DB is still there. | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| amarsh04 | back in a few... | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Database Size Users Actions | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | boycottn_wiki 2.24 MB | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | boycottn_wki Delete User | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Delete Database | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | boycottn_wrdp1 81.41 MB | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Delete Database | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | boycottn_wrdp2 37.06 MB | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Delete Database | Feb 01 12:11 |
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| *amarsh04 has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Feb 01 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Why the difference in size?? | Feb 01 12:12 |
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| oiaohm2 | Backups | Feb 01 12:12 |
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| oiaohm2 | Reason why I said don't overwrite | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | But why is the older one still in the list? | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| oiaohm2 | mysql runs its own backup files. | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | cpanel > MySQL Databases | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| oiaohm2 | Could be damaged past what Mysql can read. | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| oiaohm2 | But person doing a restore command on sever might be able to bring it back. | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | Back from where? | Feb 01 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | backup or repair? | Feb 01 12:14 |
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| oiaohm2 | Ok I will explain mysql. Number one your database is stored twice once enough time passes. This is a active running backup. | Feb 01 12:15 |
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