Bonum Certa Men Certa

Allegation: Organisation Close to Microsoft 'Unlimited Potential' (EDGI) Helps Derail GNU/Linux in Russian Schools

Train station in Russia



Summary: New anonymised paper is produced to make a case against GNU/Linux in schools and government corruption is said to influence decisions on operating systems

ON MANY occasions in the past we explained how Microsoft was preventing Russian schools from moving to GNU/Linux as planned. We last summarised this in March and one year ago we wrote about the "manuals" trick. Someone dropped some information and links for us last night. It concurs with what we learned before, but there is new evidence which is concrete. Below we have the raw logs.



mpakhi allJul 21 03:22
mpaka couple of news from RussiaJul 21 03:22
mpakRussian project of free software for school is endangered by a "group of experts" claiming that Linux and free software are not suitable for schoolsJul 21 03:23
cubezzz3why unsuitable?Jul 21 03:24
mpakthey published a report where they claim that:Jul 21 03:24
mpak- it is too difficult to install and setupJul 21 03:24
mpak- qualified techs needed to support and maintain itJul 21 03:25
cubezzz3ridiculousJul 21 03:25
mpak- MFD and printers are not well supportedJul 21 03:25
mpak- some software doesn't work well Jul 21 03:25
cubezzz3my installs from 2004 are still fineJul 21 03:25
cubezzz3MFD from HP are fine, others I'm not sureJul 21 03:26
mpak- no educational guides were made by the ministry of educationJul 21 03:26
cubezzz3anyways, I avoid MFDJul 21 03:26
mpak- existing educational guidelines are not aligned with the free softwareJul 21 03:26
mpak- MS office documents cannot be opened correctlyJul 21 03:26
cubezzz3it is a huge problem mpakJul 21 03:27
cubezzz3so don't use MS file formats :)Jul 21 03:27
cubezzz3very simpleJul 21 03:27
mpak- teachers need additional training to use new softwareJul 21 03:27
mpak- etcJul 21 03:27
cubezzz3how about some reasons on the other side?Jul 21 03:27
cubezzz3Microsoft -> Giving money to a U.S. companyJul 21 03:27
mpakwhole report is available here: http://www.infox.ru/infox/expert_judgement.pdfJul 21 03:27
TechrightsBotTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBJul 21 03:27
cubezzz3that can't really be too popular right? :)Jul 21 03:27
cubezzz3OKJul 21 03:28
mpakcan you see the link? Bot complains on meJul 21 03:28
cubezzz3yesJul 21 03:28
mpakthe report is in Russian, of course, it is 3mb pdfJul 21 03:28
mpakthere is an article with a preliminary analysis of the reportJul 21 03:28
mpakhttp://tiny.cc/v0a7f -- Rus-to-Eng translation of the articleJul 21 03:29
TechrightsBotTitle: Google Translate .::. Size~: 1.01 KBJul 21 03:29
cubezzz3ok, mpak first of allJul 21 03:29
cubezzz3consider what the schools did _before_ MIcrosoft came alongJul 21 03:29
cubezzz3obviously they functioned OK right?Jul 21 03:29
cubezzz3so it's definitely wrong to say you have to use MIcrosoftJul 21 03:29
mpakyep. Jul 21 03:30
mpakso the article says that the report is largely "anonymous" Jul 21 03:30
mpakpeople didn;t bother to put their names on itJul 21 03:30
cubezzz3yeah :)Jul 21 03:30
ender2070meaning they didnt want toJul 21 03:30
cubezzz3they don't want backlashJul 21 03:30
cubezzz3we didn't even use MIcrosoft when I was at schoolJul 21 03:31
cubezzz3we used Commodore PETsJul 21 03:31
cubezzz3Russia has good programmersJul 21 03:31
DaemonFChmmm, the latest Chrome dev build truncates downloads to the first 40 MB :PJul 21 03:32
mpakbut the organization that made it works closely with Microsoft on their Unlimited Potential programJul 21 03:32
mpakit* == reportJul 21 03:32
DaemonFCChromium it is thenJul 21 03:32
cubezzz3so there should be a healthy GNU/Linux or FOSS community in Russia I thinkJul 21 03:32
ender2070chromium > chromeJul 21 03:32
cubezzz3yeah so it's basically bullshit :)Jul 21 03:32
DaemonFCcubezzz3: their government doesn't frown on unlicensed sharing of WindowsJul 21 03:32
ender2070think of it like this, chromium is debian, chrome is ubuntuJul 21 03:32
DaemonFCso they probably all have Pirate XP user groups :)Jul 21 03:32
cubezzz3well don't break copy right lawJul 21 03:32
DaemonFCit's RussiaJul 21 03:33
DaemonFC:PJul 21 03:33
cubezzz3well maybe, I don't knowJul 21 03:33
cubezzz3Lots of European Linux people Jul 21 03:33
ender2070you kidding?Jul 21 03:33
ender2070they almost threw a teacher into a gulagJul 21 03:33
cubezzz3Russia is a big part of EuropeJul 21 03:33
ender2070for pirating microsoft productsJul 21 03:33
mpakguys, please see it this way: government in Russia is very corruptedJul 21 03:34
cubezzz3mpak, no text? Then I can use google translateJul 21 03:34
DaemonFCdoesn't Russia have that big MP3 site the government won't shut downJul 21 03:34
DaemonFCthat's selling unlicensed musicJul 21 03:34
mpakthey will use any means to get more moneyJul 21 03:34
ender2070thats goneJul 21 03:34
cubezzz3ok, so why give money to Microsoft? Save your moneyJul 21 03:34
cubezzz3easy :)Jul 21 03:34
mpakhah, it is a usual schemeJul 21 03:35
cubezzz3Canada isn't any betterJul 21 03:35
cubezzz3we are like Microsoft North hereJul 21 03:35
mpakyou're government official, you pay money from budget to some company to buy their products, this company pays you back 30% in cashJul 21 03:35
mpakthat's how it works in RussiaJul 21 03:36
cubezzz3ok, but that is still 70% to Microsoft Jul 21 03:36
cubezzz3yeah, I get itJul 21 03:36
mpakif Microsoft wins this school project, Microsoft will receive just 70% of money, and 30% will be stolenJul 21 03:36
cubezzz3we didn't have that problem beforeJul 21 03:37
mpak30% is just an example. in real life it could be 10% to company and 90% stolenJul 21 03:37
cubezzz3yes, that is a problemJul 21 03:37
cubezzz3many many systems better than Microsoft thoughJul 21 03:37
mpakif the organization that made the report will convince government to push MS-oriented programJul 21 03:37
cubezzz3why pick the worst?Jul 21 03:38
mpakthey will receive more money and wil be able to steal a halfJul 21 03:38
cubezzz3see, that is not a philosophical problem like open source/ closed sourceJul 21 03:39
cubezzz3it is a social problemJul 21 03:39
cubezzz3a people problemJul 21 03:39
cubezzz3well you can complain to the government I supposeJul 21 03:39
DaemonFCMicrosoft even made it so that Windows 7 ultimate will accept any language packJul 21 03:39
DaemonFCit's practically gift wrapped for pirates :PJul 21 03:40
mpaki will complain to the government that the government steals money? :)Jul 21 03:40
cubezzz3I complained to CBC, government of Canada and my municipal government too :)Jul 21 03:40
cubezzz3hehJul 21 03:40
cubezzz3sure complain to the newspapers Jul 21 03:41
cubezzz3complain to the radio stationsJul 21 03:41
cubezzz3I fixed my councilman's computer one time so he had to listen to meJul 21 03:41
cubezzz3at least they used pdfJul 21 03:41
mpakoh, i need to fix someone's computer then :)) Jul 21 03:42
mpakit is not them, it is a newspaper that get the reportJul 21 03:42
mpakthe report was in paper formJul 21 03:42
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtHiut6hzTgJul 21 03:42
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- KEEP YOUR STUPID KIDS OFF THE INTERNET .::. Size~: 105.16 KBJul 21 03:42
DaemonFCWindows 7 Ultimate with Canadian language packJul 21 03:42
*DaemonFC hands one to cubezzz3 Jul 21 03:42
DaemonFCeh?Jul 21 03:42
*cubezzz3 sits on itJul 21 03:43
*mpak puts a cup of coffee on itJul 21 03:43
cubezzz3dude, I'm the last person on the planet to use windows 7Jul 21 03:43
DaemonFCcubezzz3: You love Windows 7Jul 21 03:43
DaemonFCand you know itJul 21 03:43
cubezzz3I'll tell you whatJul 21 03:43
mpakyeah, hypnotize himJul 21 03:43
cubezzz3you make it work on my 486 and I'll use itJul 21 03:44
cubezzz3no cdrom drive :)Jul 21 03:44
DaemonFCbut it DOES work on a 486Jul 21 03:44
*DaemonFC waves his hand in front of cubezzz3 Jul 21 03:44
ender2070overclock it to 800mhzJul 21 03:44
ender2070give it 512 mb ramJul 21 03:44
DaemonFCThis is the operating system you're looking forJul 21 03:44
ender2070it'll work thenJul 21 03:44
cubezzz3even windows 2 suckedJul 21 03:44
DaemonFCyou WILL buy new hardwareJul 21 03:44
cubezzz3and every version after thatJul 21 03:44
cubezzz3jedi tricks don't work on me, only money!Jul 21 03:44
DaemonFCyou HAVE moneyJul 21 03:45
ender2070what if you received a free legit copy?Jul 21 03:45
cubezzz3yeah but I don't spend it on Microsoft productsJul 21 03:45
mpakhttp://tiny.cc/j8uwbJul 21 03:45
*DaemonFC dumps out his monopoly box set and hands the money to cubezzz3 Jul 21 03:45
DaemonFCyou guys use that stuff up there, right?Jul 21 03:45
mpaksorry about the previous linkJul 21 03:46
cubezzz3lol Jul 21 03:46
mpakit was http://tinyurl.com/2arjpgfJul 21 03:46
TechrightsBotTitle: korobkin: Forefront Security for what it is worth .::. Size~: 31.52 KBJul 21 03:47
*DaemonFC wonders if the Canadian serial killers are politeJul 21 03:47
DaemonFCshame this isn't 1990, I could get a Canadian hitman for half priceJul 21 03:47
DaemonFChave him whack the neighborsJul 21 03:47
DaemonFCwith a hockey stickJul 21 03:47
DaemonFCor maybe let his hockey hair devour them wholeJul 21 03:47
DaemonFCbones and allJul 21 03:47
DaemonFC:DJul 21 03:47
mpakok, have a good day guysJul 21 03:48


Comments

Recent Techrights' Posts

With 9 Mentions of Azure In Its Latest Blog Post, Canonical is Again Promoting Microsoft and Intel Vendor Lock-in, Surveillance, Back Doors, Considerable Power Waste, and Defects That Cannot be Fixed
Microsoft did not even have to buy Canonical (for Canonical to act like it happened)
Links 28/03/2024: GAFAM Replacing Full-Time Workers With Interns Now
Links for the day
Consent & Debian's illegitimate constitution
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
The Time Our Server Host Died in a Car Accident
If Debian has internal problems, then they need to be illuminated and then tackled, at the very least in order to ensure we do not end up with "Deadian"
China's New 'IT' Rules Are a Massive Headache for Microsoft
On the issue of China we're neutral except when it comes to human rights issues
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 27, 2024
IRC logs for Wednesday, March 27, 2024
WeMakeFedora.org: harassment decision, victory for volunteers and Fedora Foundations
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 27/03/2024: Terrorism Grows in Africa, Unemployment in Finland Rose Sharply in a Year, Chinese Aggression Escalates
Links for the day
Links 27/03/2024: Ericsson and Tencent Layoffs
Links for the day
Amid Online Reports of XBox Sales Collapsing, Mass Layoffs in More Teams, and Windows Making Things Worse (Admission of Losses, Rumours About XBox Canceled as a Hardware Unit)...
Windows has loads of issues, also as a gaming platform
Links 27/03/2024: BBC Resorts to CG Cruft, Akamai Blocking Blunders in Piracy Shield
Links for the day
Android Approaches 90% of the Operating Systems Market in Chad (Windows Down From 99.5% 15 Years Ago to Just 2.5% Right Now)
Windows is down to about 2% on the Web-connected client side as measured by statCounter
Sainsbury's: Let Them Eat Yoghurts (and Microsoft Downtimes When They Need Proper Food)
a social control media 'scandal' this week
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 26, 2024
IRC logs for Tuesday, March 26, 2024
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
Windows/Client at Microsoft Falling Sharply (Well Over 10% Decline Every Quarter), So For His Next Trick the Ponzi in Chief Merges Units, Spices Everything Up With "AI"
Hiding the steep decline of Windows/Client at Microsoft?
Free technology in housing and construction
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
We Need Open Standards With Free Software Implementations, Not "Interoperability" Alone
Sadly we're confronting misguided managers and a bunch of clowns trying to herd us all - sometimes without consent - into "clown computing"
Microsoft's Collapse in the Web Server Space Continued This Month
Microsoft is the "2%", just like Windows in some countries
Links 26/03/2024: Inflation Problems, Strikes in Finland
Links for the day
Gemini Links 26/03/2024: Losing Children, Carbon Tax Discussed
Links for the day
Mark Shuttleworth resigns from Debian: volunteer suicide and Albania questions unanswered, mass resignations continue
Reprinted with permission from Daniel Pocock
Links 26/03/2024: 6,000 Layoffs at Dell, Microsoft “XBox is in Real Trouble as a Hardware Manufacturer”
Links for the day
Gemini Links 26/03/2024: Microsofters Still Trying to 'Extend' Gemini Protocol
Links for the day
Look What IBM's Red Hat is Turning CentOS Into
For 17 years our site ran on CentOS. Thankfully we're done with that...
The Julian Paul Assange Verdict: The High Court Has Granted Assange Leave to Appeal Extradition to the United States, Decision Adjourned to May 20th Pending Assurances
The decision is out
The Microsoft and Apple Antitrust Issues Have Some But Not Many Commonalities
gist of the comparison to Microsoft
ZDNet, Sponsored by Microsoft for Paid-for Propaganda (in 'Article' Clothing), Has Added Pop-Up or Overlay to All Pages, Saying "813 Partners Will Store and Access Information on Your Device"
Avoiding ZDNet may become imperative given what it has turned into
Julian Assange Verdict 3 Hours Away
Their decision is due to be published at 1030 GMT
People Who Cover Suicide Aren't Suicidal
Assange didn't just "deteriorate". This deterioration was involuntary and very much imposed upon him.
Overworking Kills
The body usually (but not always) knows best
Former Red Hat Chief (CEO), Who Decided to Leave the Company Earlier This Month, Talks About "Cloud Company Red Hat" to CNBC
shows a lack of foresight and dependence on buzzwords
IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 25, 2024
IRC logs for Monday, March 25, 2024
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
Discord Does Not Make Money, It's Spying on People and Selling Data/Control (38% is Allegedly Controlled by the Communist Party of China)
a considerable share exists
In At Least Two Nations Windows is Now Measured at 2% "Market Share" (Microsoft Really Does Not Want People to Notice That)
Ignore the mindless "AI"-washing
Internet Relay Chat (IRC) Still Has Hundreds of Thousands of Simultaneously-Online Unique Users
The scale of IRC