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| schestowitz | > Hello again, Roy. | Mar 01 02:56 |
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| schestowitz | > | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > I am sending this email anonymously and I would like to remain so. I | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > trust you will not publish or share this email address. Thank you. | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > Have you noticed RMS is not speaking at LibrePlanet this year? | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > https://libreplanet.org/2022/program/ | Mar 01 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libreplanet.org | LibrePlanet — Program | Mar 01 02:57 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | > Next step: Stallman out of the board. | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | On what basis do you think they would 'oust' him? | Mar 01 02:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Gonzalo_VC23/status/1498450496658493441 | Mar 01 03:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Gonzalo_VC23: @schestowitz :-D | Mar 01 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | Mine is dredmorbius@protonmail.com | Mar 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | Have you attempted contacting Lukas Matt or FENEAS directly yet? | Mar 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Mar 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Hi Roy from Manchester! | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | I'm one of yours readers. | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | After reading those of your (many) pills about gemini, I've decided to setup my capsule, too. | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | And I remember that you had a post about this at one moment. But, I can't locate it. | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | I have a internet domain hosted by a hoster in The Netherlands. And I want to get htpp and gemini. | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | There are not any step-by-step recipes available on how to get a gemini website (text, couple pictures) plus a blog. And you have I think the most advanced capsule and more experience than me. Could please help me and enlight me? | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Many thanks! | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | Hi, please have a look at agate setup (some minor details have changed since because of newer versions being available) http://techrights.org/2021/02/23/gemini-server-with-agate/ | Mar 01 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | How to Set Up a Gemini Server of Your Own, Even on a Simple Single-Board Computer | Techrights | Mar 01 03:16 | |
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| Techrights-sec2 | cron does not seem to run at all for gemini | Mar 01 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scratch that, found the typo | Mar 01 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | today there was no temporary outage | Mar 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | latest I have been shifting between 2 tc modes, for times I need to give more b//w to | Mar 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pi | Mar 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. if some cron jobs time out | Mar 01 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday at end of night I had to run lots of things, mostly manually | Mar 01 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | which things failed on the change of month? | Mar 01 08:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | there are a lot of dependencies based on the presence of directories and | Mar 01 08:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | files. Some will start working once there is a post in Gemini. | Mar 01 08:51 |
| Techrights-sec2 | running gemini-cron-updater.sh atm | Mar 01 08:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, there is a misunderstandinmg | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | all the things I did manually had no automation at place at all | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are on different servers, even deskto | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | including some stuff like making monthly pages for viddeos | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | on another note, I have jujst opened daily links | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see a profound change, as there is no "line" for social control media | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think, hang on, maybe that's a gOOD tHING (tm) | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | MAYBE i CAN STOP SOCIAL MEDIA "FASTING" EARLY | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | caps not intentionnal ^^ | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | which makes for gradual phasing out | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday I checked what it involved toi run a one-user diaspora instance | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a pain to maintain | Mar 01 08:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | little value for effort | Mar 01 08:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ah ok | Mar 01 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes, it is Fat Tuesdsay today isn't it. | Mar 01 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, those kinds of services are a right PITA to operate, thus the economoy of | Mar 01 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | scale. If anyone were serious about (re-)decentralization, they'd make it | Mar 01 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec2 | as easy as running OpenBSD's HTTPd or thereabouts. | Mar 01 08:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if you saw it, but openbsd httpd was pointed out by the young ukranian (somehaxor) in IRC | Mar 01 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday | Mar 01 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | In any event, don't resend or change anything | Mar 01 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I want to see how I cope with different workflow | Mar 01 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I will find some better way | Mar 01 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in which context? | Mar 01 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | (looking at the archive now) | Mar 01 08:57 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot recall the context in which openbd was mentioned, maybe the latest netcraft report | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft floudering again | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | but, to me, twitter is not important | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you saw twitter "analytics" | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | you would understand | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once did a video about it | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | showing how over the past 5 years | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | traffic was declining steadily | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no matter what gets posted | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not like all of a suddent this year oir next year | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll bounce back | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw that before in digg.com and other sites | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | the writings are on the wall | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | as for diaspora, with zero followers | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | there would be tons of catching up to do | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I checked the hundreds of existing instances | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | who knows where they will be in 5 years, let alone more | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's what I entertained the idea of self-hosting it | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried on the techrights servers ages ago and run it | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | those files are still there somewhere in homedir | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the point is, | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | for shity shiity shiotty "tweets" this is hardly | Mar 01 09:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | worth the effort | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | you then neer to aslso mmanage | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | email notifications which means jumping through gulagsoft hooops | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | cenrtifications, APIs with "services" and tokens and all | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is tackling a real isssue | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | a 2010 issue | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a 2022 issue | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | people are glued to "smart" phones now | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they apparently use more gulagtube and netflix (drm) and | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | tiktok no | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't keep up with these things | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you could argue osysee if the new generation | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | along with peertube | Mar 01 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | every minute people spend glued to their smartphones is a minute not only that | Mar 01 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they won't get back but takes away from what would have been a wealth of skills | Mar 01 09:03 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and experiences, thus cutting into their futures. That goes 100x for youth. | Mar 01 09:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, looki, I can justify doing all this a decade ago | Mar 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | (to myself) | Mar 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the situation was different back then | Mar 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | like when corbyn ran for PM | Mar 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and my tweets got like 100-200k impressions a day | Mar 01 09:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | for diaspora, ttl is 72 hours plus | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | so stopping on my own a little early might be ok | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much to be lost | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is time to be gained | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | like time collecting stuff from geminispacew | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and making our daily links more useful | Mar 01 09:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Mar 01 09:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Speaking of links, how should the acquisitions be tuned? | Mar 01 09:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I presume there is no need to check Mastodon's Fediverse any more either? | Mar 01 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | some "toots" can be 'addictive' because they are relevant | Mar 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but little effort was put intoo writing them | Mar 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it is like that SMS mindset | Mar 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | which dicourage proper understanding of stuff | Mar 01 09:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and does not reward the hard work | Mar 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, dctorow just copy-pastes his long-form articles | Mar 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | into mamut.fr or whatever | Mar 01 09:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, doctorow has a proper blog to track anyway | Mar 01 09:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | doctorow wasted many years writing for tabloid trash | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | which he now tells me he wants to distancxce himself from | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | as they do things he does not agreee with | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | book sales and eff help him make a living | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he focuses on his own blog, iirc on his very own platform | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | at long last | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | in twitter I saw the other day that I had exceeded 950k tweets | Mar 01 09:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | but those numbers do not matter and are not visible like they | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | used to be | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | you hgave to use some tricks to see them | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can still occasionally use such accounts to highlight | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | only important things | Mar 01 09:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | links about 4 times faster than before | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | one side advantage is, the chance of my account being banned from twitter with | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | everything lost for good is a lot lower | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | if I post almost nothing | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | nide note | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | relevant nevertheless | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter profits from the conflict | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | why? | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | because usually my twwets there get like 20-30 times fewers views than | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ones that mention ukraine by name or as hashtag | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you know | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | how doomscrolling works | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what sort of "End of world" BS | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | would be favoured, promoted etc. | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. at times of despair | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | not limited to fin ancial | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | should i screenshoits this or do sa video to demonsterate the iossue? | Mar 01 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | As mentioned before this conflict in Euruope is further normalizing the misuse | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | of social control media by officials and agencies. They are misusing it | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | in place of official channels of communication and the press is feeding on | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | that and helping normalize it beyond what has previously happened. | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Now Zuckerberg and Dorsey are the bottleneck through which leaders of state | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | must squeeze to reach the public. | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The press only hurts themselves by promoting social control media. | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | interesting | Mar 01 09:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | screenshot + article to document it | Mar 01 09:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have begun drafting some stuff | Mar 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see that TechDirt works after the migration, one "Daily" 'Deal' [sic] | Mar 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | crept through | Mar 01 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, I am going through the links very fast | Mar 01 09:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think somehow pressed crtl+s and paused it, ctrl+q fixed it I think | Mar 01 09:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll check to see about filtering the new 'Daily "deal"' stuff. | Mar 01 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | k | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the links added at the bottom I'll dump into irc where I csn read the headlines | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I assume there are good reasons not to include these in daily links | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | In due course I will reassess how to use social control media, if at all | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | my grandpa saysd, you cannot change and explore other things if you never try thenm | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think at the time he was referring to working from home | Mar 01 09:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I did, then regretted I hadn't done that sooner | Mar 01 09:35 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Ok. Fixed the "Daily Deal" references. | Mar 01 09:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am almost done witrh Daily Links :-) | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | theory: the motivation to run a service is closely connected to its overall | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | impact | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the cutting off of some service, due to admin losing interest, | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | might in fact signal the fad having passed | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and persisting in the old ways is insistance that times | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | are not changing | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon I'll get some coffeee and start recording, writing etc. | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | much better use of time | Mar 01 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I hope so | Mar 01 09:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think there has been a slight increase in people resuming real blogs. | Mar 01 09:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, some time last year I notiuced that even with zero "news" sites | Mar 01 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I could still post around 50 node in tuxmachines | Mar 01 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | each day | Mar 01 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There was also a fairly successful campaing about 100 posts in 100 days | Mar 01 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to encourage people to write even short blog entries for 100 days in a row. | Mar 01 09:49 |
| Techrights-sec2 | That seems to have inspired many both directly and indirectly. | Mar 01 09:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is all about habits and momentum | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | doctorw said about a decade ago something to that beffect | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like crushing your teeth | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | you just do uit because you do it, and did it every day | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | writing can be the same | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | social media addiction is the negativce "evil brother" of | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | this mental thing, which also applies to prayer | Mar 01 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | (rianne and I stopped going to church) | Mar 01 09:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think that 100 posts in 100 days campaign was a positive thing. | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I guess it depends on the character of the church, they do vary quite a bit. | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | In some countries there are no qualifications or educational prerequisites, | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | not even a degree in theology nor skill in ancient greek or hebrew needed | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | just a loud mouth. That's an unfortunate situation. | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "'' | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Could not open 'http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/hplip-3-22-2/' : 500 Server closed connection without sending any data | Mar 01 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 28/2/2022: Glimpse at LMDE 5 Beta and Release of HPLIP 3.22.2 | Techrights | Mar 01 09:59 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | back | Mar 01 09:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Mar 01 09:59 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I haev just changed tc to a more permissive mode | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | links done, | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's only 10am :;) | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | [totally not serious]\ I could use ukraine and twitter profiting | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | from escalatingf it and the drama | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | as an excusew for saying I quit twitter | Mar 01 10:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Mar 01 10:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | excellent | Mar 01 10:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | There would be a grain of truth in it though. | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I'm just joking | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would be a lie | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in theory we could for a coalition of some twitter users | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | deploring this | Mar 01 10:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | i have begun draftinmg something more cleverly worded to that effect | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | about the SORT of platform that I am contributing to | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | and what the end users also contribute towards | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | collectovely | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | draft notes: | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Twitter Profits From Conflict | Mar 01 10:23 |
| schestowitz | This is not the sign of a healthy platform | Mar 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | profiting from drama and escalation | Mar 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | don't want to participate in such a thing | Mar 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | it was never intended by me and this is not the platform I created an account in back in 2009 (to merely absorb copies of what I had posted to identi.ca already) | Mar 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | that's just what Twitter is and how it works | Mar 01 10:24 |
| schestowitz | can you add https://hackaday.com/feed/ to daily links? first paragraph there is usually OK, they post a lot and their integrity has been quite good (no shit and spam) | Mar 01 10:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 10:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | perhaps there is an old post backing that position | Mar 01 10:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | adding | Mar 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think it would be just as important | Mar 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | to give people reasons | Mar 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | to wean themselves off social control media | Mar 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe blog more instead | Mar 01 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | as important as telling them to try gemini for better s/nn ratio among other benefits | Mar 01 10:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | added, it's show up in tomorrow's automated links | Mar 01 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes, but when promoting gemini it is always important (for the time being) to also | Mar 01 10:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | link to how to get ahold of the clients. | Mar 01 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | at some point I want to do a video about gmnini hosting from | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | scratch, e.g. by makign a cpasule about animals for rianne | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the problem is, this requires a lot of planning and can still go | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | wrongf | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. wrong command entered | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | so without some editing howtos are hard | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | including how to open ports on the router | Mar 01 10:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, editing will be more or less unavoidable | Mar 01 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | eithger editing or training./auditioning | Mar 01 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a live demo | Mar 01 10:37 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | lol | Mar 01 12:05 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | restarting http | Mar 01 15:34 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/23/industrial-action-at-the-epo-to-demand-restoration-of-fundamental-rights/#comments | Mar 01 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Industrial action at the EPO to demand restoration of fundamental rights - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 01 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | A. Nonymous | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 23, 2022 AT 5:09 PM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | “all examiners are called upon to apply the provisions of the EPC, the case law of the Boards of Appeal and the internal rules for patent examination, especially for grants, with particular care” | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Isn’t that what the public expects from the EPO? | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | A.Non.Ymous | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 12:07 AM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Well, according to Management, Quality is Quantity. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 23, 2022 AT 11:14 PM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | It is amazing that the tenant of the 10th floor has not yet attempted to restaure the preceding situation. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The EPO is held hostage by a clique of people who behave like the worth employers of the 19th century. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The tenant want to extend his contract! | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | He was called in to restaure social peace but has not done one thing in this respect! | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | A shame on the AC! | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | LightBlue | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 10:50 AM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The last AC decided to bring the strike regulations into compliance with the ILOAT judgements. Does the SUEPO overlook this? | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 6:27 PM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Are you referring to the following in the report on the latest AC meeting? | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | “Regulations on strike and unauthorised absence: the Council unanimously approved the proposed amendments to the Service Regulation as a result of the respective ILOAT judgements rendered in July 2021”. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | If so, and despite the incorrect reference to “July 2021” (as ILO-AT’s 132nd session ended in JUNE 2021), may I point out that the proposed amendments cannot possibly deal with Judgment No. 4482, which was delivered on 27 January 2022. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Clerk of Court | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 25, 2022 AT 10:53 AM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Re “the incorrect reference to July 2021”: | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The ILOAT Judgments on the Strike Regulations may have been adopted by the Tribunal in June but their date of public delivery – which is the date borne by the judgment – was 7 July 2021. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ilo.org/dyn/triblex/triblexmain.detail?p_judgment_no=4430 | Mar 01 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ilo.org | Judgment No. 4430 (Extracts) | Mar 01 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | one of those.... | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 27, 2022 AT 7:33 AM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | the Pres. of the int. Organisation is informed of the outcome immediately. The complainant and the public only on public delivery. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Hence the Pres. of the EPO knew what was coming, and did nothing until after the public delivery. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The Smurf | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 27, 2022 AT 7:36 PM | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | Well, he offered another round of foreseeable fruitless negotiations to Suepo about the strike regulations once he had learned that the Tribunal would decide on them. Suepo declined. | Mar 01 15:51 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/23/administrative-committee-unified-patent-court-inaugurated/#comments | Mar 01 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Administrative Committee Unified Patent Court inaugurated - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 01 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | It will be interesting to see who will chair the AC? I think the former tenant of the 10th floor in Munich might be too old. I take bets that he would like an honorary chairmanship and why not a BB passage like it exists a Kurt Haertel Passage in Munich! | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Patent robot | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 8:58 AM | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Is all this legal? | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 11:37 AM | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | A good question to which I predict there will never be a satisfactory answer. This is because I have no doubt that the governments of the Participating Member States will exert their influence to ensure that the question falls between one of the numerous cracks between the different (national, international and EU) legal systems that govern the UPC. | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Mar 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 25, 2022 AT 12:01 AM | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I am not too sure that there are so many cracks. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | What if a national jurisdiction refuses the exequatur of decision taken in Paris and/or Munich in IPC files in classes A and C? | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | National jurisdictions regularly refer prejudicial questions to the CJEU about SPC. It would be surprising if the UPC would not need to do the same. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | In all courts of member states, there is a double degree of jurisdiction, with a revision instance above. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | This is not the case for the UPC of for the BA of the EPO. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Just compare trademarks: EUIPO, its internal BA and eventually Luxembourg. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | What seems to have been necessary for a EU TM system should not be valid for a “EU” Patent? | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | You must be joking. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 25, 2022 AT 10:50 AM | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Attentive, I agree that IN THEORY there should not be quite so many cracks. However, we are talking here about practice. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | To illustrate, consider that ALL of the EPC Member States are party to the ECHR, and the majority are EU Member States. Nevertheless, they have presided over the imposition of measures that deprive EPO staff of human rights that are enshrined in both EU law and the ECHR. And, thanks in large part to a highly “political” decision of the Dutch Supreme Court, they have escaped accountability for doing so. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I do not yet know how, but I am pretty sure that similar tricks to escape accountability will be employed in connection with the UPC. The politicians simply have too much invested in the UPC project for the outcome to be otherwise. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Of course, I could be mistaken. For example, it would be quite something if the CJEU were to rule that it could not consider preliminary references from the UPC, on the grounds that the UPC is not a court common to the EU Member States. However, are we sure that the UPC will risk this outcome? Might the UPC’s judges instead refuse to submit preliminary references to the CJEU, even when they ought to be obliged to seek an opinion from the CJEU | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | on a point of EU law? What could any litigant do in that situation to ensure that their rights under EU law are respected? Would this then come back to a situation where what actually happens is a far cry from what the law says SHOULD happen? | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 24, 2022 AT 6:08 PM | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | As long as those wanting the UPC declare it is legal, it will be legal. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Reasonable doubts are however permitted that the UPC is in conformity with EU law. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | It seems to need more than a reference to the supremacy of EU law to insure that it is actually the case! | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | It is amazing to see how the supporters of the UPC superbly ignore the open issues which exist. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | In certain circles, auto-suggestion seems to be a favourite topic. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | It reminds of a proprietor repeating that claim 1 is novel in the hope that the self-professy suddenly becomes true! | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Patent robot | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 25, 2022 AT 9:25 AM | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I was actually thinking about this sentence of the UPC website (28 October 2021): | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | “The Chairman presented a draft Declaration on the authentic interpretation of Art. 3 of the PAP-Protocol, following the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the Unitary Patent System. In line with public international law, this Declaration will confirm the entry into force of the PAP-Protocol, once the required 13 Member States become bound by said Protocol, recognizing that Art. 3 of the PAP-Protocol is to be interpreted as mirroring Art. 89 | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | of the UPCA. The delegations supported the approach proposed by the Chairman, hence giving him the mandate to organize a signing ceremony of the Declaration, foreseen in the margins of a future COREPER meeting.” | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | Has the Declaration been signed? If not, how could the PAP-Protocol have entered into force? | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | zoobab | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 25, 2022 AT 12:05 PM | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | There is new jurisprudence in PL Holdings of the CJEU regarding international courts that have to interpret EU law: | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | https://ffii.org/pl-holdings-european-court-of-justice-confirms-eu-law-cannot-be-outsourced-to-international-courts-like-unified-patent-court/ | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | The opinion of the AG in PL Holdings was already mentioned in the Jaeger paper. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ffii.org | PL Holdings: European Court of Justice confirms EU law cannot be outsourced to international courts like Unified Patent Court | FFII | Mar 01 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | Supporters of the UPC claims the court is part of the “judicial system of the European Union”, but a common court ***has to*** talk to National Courts to be considered part of the system. | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 15:53 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/22/how-to-save-e-67650-in-desparate-appeal-proceedings/#comments | Mar 01 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | How to save € 676,50 in Desparate Appeal Proceedings? - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 01 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | And also this year the Oscar for the most complex patent office in the world goes to…the EPO! | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | LightBlue | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 22, 2022 AT 3:06 PM | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | I think the board would probably agree that 75% of the fee should be refunded but they are bound by the wording of Rule 103. Maybe a change to the rule is called for to allow the 75% refund also if the appeal is withdrawn before the issuance of the communication referred to in (2). | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Bring about | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 22, 2022 AT 5:08 PM | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | For some reason I have the impression that getting the AC to agree to such a change facilitating reimbursements for the applicant would be more difficult than, say, for any other brilliant measure proposed by the management of the EPO. Just a hunch… | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | DxThomas | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 22, 2022 AT 8:03 PM | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | T 853/16 might look legalistic but is flawless. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | As I have said on LinkedIn, it seems to be the result of a feud between legal members. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | In its large wisdom, and its even larger ego, the drafter of R 103 did not think it fit to ask his colleagues for an opinion. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Let’s hope that R 103 is amended asap! | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Anything else would be unreasonable. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | It is the discretion of a BA not to refer a question to the EBA, but here there was a good reason to do so. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Parties to EPO procedures should not be the victim of such quibbles. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | But a dynamic interpretation could lead to the conclusion that R 103 does not have to be amended….. | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Extraneous Attorney | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | FEBRUARY 23, 2022 AT 7:36 PM | Mar 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | The outcome might seem strange or even absurd, but the Board has to be commended for applying the rule as written, not as it thought it should be written. If the legislator (in the present case, the AC) wishes to overturn the outcome, he simply has to change the wording of the rule. | Mar 01 15:54 |
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| schestowitz-TR | theoretic topoly anyway | Mar 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Mar 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Mar 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | in short: so far I like doing less social conrtrol media | Mar 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it buys me more time | Mar 01 18:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | nice | Mar 01 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | more time for investivative work too | Mar 01 18:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see in my video about twitter that the number of impression | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | sucks these days | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it used to be an average of 200 on the fiurst day | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | average | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's a lot less | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 40 | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think two factors contribute to this | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) fewer active users | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) algo impoiosing on people wo to read | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | no mattter what they follow | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I heard gulgatube does a lot of (2) | Mar 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | of note: | Mar 01 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | (back with coffe, will record another when rianne gets back) | Mar 01 18:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil took a 6-day hiatus | Mar 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and kluwer patern blog publisher nothing in a week | Mar 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, the silence or inactivity of opponents oif our agenda is what we want | Mar 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not neede to 'compete' or debate with those | Mar 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | who are absent | Mar 01 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | were they off at the same meeting? | Mar 01 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "the silence or inactivity of opponents " | Mar 01 18:21 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ... were the away attending the same meeting? | Mar 01 18:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | who was off? | Mar 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mean, the idea of silence due to some silent 'cabal' coorerdinating something | Mar 01 18:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | isn't what would take so long | Mar 01 18:22 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The microsofters used to go quiet once a year for a whole week and then | Mar 01 18:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the "articles" in the compromised trade press would change talking points | Mar 01 18:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | upon their return, in a coordinated fashion. | Mar 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, let me put it like this: | Mar 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) ibm withdrew from some old tactics | Mar 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. but not limited to "war on words" | Mar 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they realised it had backfired too badly | Mar 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | pseudo-ethics dop not work when people call out the MFers | Mar 01 18:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | who try to warp the spiel | Mar 01 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think iut is safe to say that "Linux is unsafe" BS | Mar 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | (new press release to that effect) | Mar 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | is blame shifting and focus-shifting ntactis | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | vmware is one of several | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see them yourself all over gulag noise | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually I put them under security and/or fud sectionb | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | just to keep stock for potential later use | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne should be back with anotrher covid test kit soon | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we won't use them, we just keep them in case we feel something | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's getting hard to avoid it | Mar 01 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | half my family got it | Mar 01 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | yes, it is intended to distract from the problems M$ creates in the world | Mar 01 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | stay healthy | Mar 01 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hopefully different types of vaccines will be allowed and that /those/ unlike | Mar 01 18:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the current batch will be effective in reducing the spread | Mar 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my family the recurring theme is muscle pain and back pain | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems that the vacccines weaken the immune system in general | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne juist got back | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | she did get one more test kit | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but she is frustrated that it's hard to find discounted food | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tell her, maybe we have a lot more competition now | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | its's hard to know | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | people pick those things up quietly | Mar 01 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the discounts have competition everywhere and some places barely reduce | Mar 01 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the price before tossing the food | Mar 01 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they also lock the dumpsters | Mar 01 18:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | these days | Mar 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the aliens watching from up above LOL | Mar 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "stupid humans" | Mar 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lock up other human | Mar 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and perfectly edible food | Mar 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Mar 01 18:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | OTA | Mar 01 20:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | two mdrafts now | Mar 01 20:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Mar 01 20:32 |
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