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schestowitz-TRgmnisrv and gmni now installed on TM-new, I'm giving up for now as I cannot reach it from the inside or the insideAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRthe main config file is an ini, /usr/etc/gmnisrv.ini, not /etc/gmnisrv.iniAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRbut I tried the latter alsoAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRI've commented out several things I tried. To start the server just run gmnisrv, though any client of proxy I triedAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRcannot reach it, I evern asked kaniini if the hv has a firewall (no!) and checked the tmux sessioncAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRcalled "firefox". To see the command history tmux a -t logsAug 01 02:25
schestowitz-TRI'\m giving up for now in order to catch up with newsAug 01 02:26
schestowitz-TRs/firefox/firewall/Aug 01 02:26
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Techrights-sec2remember I added NFtables to tm-new, that's how the scripts ban.sh and ban-ssh.sh can block further attacks from hosts which have been attacking.  Aug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2being able to filter those out would be the only reason to keep NFTables aroundAug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2that and its 1000x easier to configure than IPTables, though that still doesn'tAug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2say much about ease of useAug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2I've updated PS1 for bash and busybox ash:Aug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2PS1='\u:\w\$ 'Aug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2and PS1="%n:%~%% " for zshAug 01 06:58
Techrights-sec2they can be overridden in ~/.profileAug 01 06:59
Techrights-sec2MQTT now also works for notification about db updates for the siteAug 01 06:59
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schestowitz-TR"the media" tries to distract from Linux 5.19Aug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRmaking it all about AppleAug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRcan you think of a way, in Aug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRtmux a -t logsAug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRto get gemini to resppond on part 1965?Aug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRit's very strange, that ought to workAug 01 07:40
Techrights-sec2checkingAug 01 07:40
Techrights-sec2gemini is not runningAug 01 07:40
Techrights-sec2nft is now open on tcp 1965Aug 01 07:40
schestowitz-TRI'll show you the config file, I tried external oirigiginallyAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRit worksAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRoff we goAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRthe working dir is /home/gemini/geminiAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRwith certs in same locattion as with agate Aug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRso it'll be consistentAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRyes, meh is what I put thereAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRin index.gmiAug 01 07:46
schestowitz-TRthis one supports some CGI thoughtAug 01 07:47
schestowitz-TRsoi we could in theory add some scripting, e.g. searchAug 01 07:47
schestowitz-TRthere are off the shelf html->gmi convertors, but I cannot remember their names without looking up Aug 01 07:47
Techrights-sec2It's not listeningto the external IPv4 address only the external IPv6 addressAug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2and that's not in useAug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2try nowAug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2it says, "meh"Aug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2yes but some adjustments to the sqlite3 database are needed for fulltext searchesAug 01 07:48
Techrights-sec2or some of the tools we have already can be copied / modifiedAug 01 07:48
schestowitz-TRI need some time for catchiing uo, overslept a bit, and then bothered by a phonecall regarding something I ignore/won't pick upAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TRtrying to refocus hereAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TRat least gemini is all sorted nowAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TRthis one of c, not trust, and may be no longer maintainedAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TRdAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TRagplv4 or later by devaultAug 01 07:52
schestowitz-TR*v3Aug 01 07:52
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 07:53
Techrights-sec2?Aug 01 07:53
Techrights-sec2which one is not maintained?Aug 01 07:53
schestowitz-TRthe official page is down, the site is the capsule in factAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRbut the code is in sourcehutAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRdevault is trying to focus on Hare nowAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRthat does not mean nobody wlese will pick up if/when neededAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRafaik, it's feature-complete almostAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRagate was like "my first gemini" capsuleAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRdoes only the basicsAug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRdo you want me to start a mockup of front page?Aug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRit can be made to look almost identical to https, but irc andn other pages need rewriting for s gemini "base"Aug 01 07:56
schestowitz-TRlet's wait till http is finalisedAug 01 07:56
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 07:57
Techrights-sec2too soon, the HTTP site needs to be further along firstAug 01 07:57
Techrights-sec2otherwise every change will lead to a cascade of modficationsAug 01 07:57
Techrights-sec2were marius and rianne ok with the workflow?Aug 01 07:57
Techrights-sec2Another way would be to include the metadata and the body in a single text fileAug 01 07:57
Techrights-sec2using a template and then have the script split out the piecesAug 01 07:57
schestowitz-TRrianne is fine with it, but she did not try adding images yetAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRthat's work in progress because of inotifyAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRfor now I wget and take the file nameAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRmarius probably sent me mail yesterday, but I will open email tonightAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRsome of our other "contributors" (linking to their own sites, always) help shift the topic of 5.19Aug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRto "Apple Ailicon" along with the Microsoft Register et alAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRyou can see what I mean in front page old old-tuxmachines, not tuxmachines-newAug 01 08:00
schestowitz-TRI did not copy these acrossAug 01 08:00
Techrights-sec2yes, if there only were a foundation or some other organization which Aug 01 08:01
Techrights-sec2had a lot of money which could be used to promote and advance Linux ...Aug 01 08:01
Techrights-sec2checkingAug 01 08:01
schestowitz-TRbtw, currently gemini is not in rc.d or similar openrc or whatever alpine usesAug 01 08:03
schestowitz-TRas I ran short of making it work I did not look into adding itAug 01 08:03
schestowitz-TRa startup script can be added to gitAug 01 08:03
schestowitz-TRI added robots.tx via git, but that did not propagane to prodAug 01 08:03
Techrights-sec2the one article makes it almost look like Linus even uses MacOS insteadAug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2an rc script can be made, it's easy Aug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2btw 81.154.171.101 is also spamming /var/log/messages with git logins everyAug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2minute or two, MQTT is much more efficient on bandwidth, etc. tooAug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2it seems it still has to pull manually but maybe it was due to git gettingAug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2tangled again.  I had to straighten it out a few hours ago and pull manuallyAug 01 08:07
Techrights-sec2I say the robots.txt change but did not look at the contentsAug 01 08:07
schestowitz-TRas the commit log shows, it's a very basic file, a placeholderAug 01 08:08
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Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 08:15
Techrights-sec2seems goodAug 01 08:15
Techrights-sec2what is the path / full command to launch gmnisrv and where is the config fileAug 01 08:15
Techrights-sec2locatedAug 01 08:15
Techrights-sec2yes, but where is the configuration file?Aug 01 08:15
Techrights-sec2/etc/gmnisrv.iniAug 01 08:15
schestowitz-TRI'll get on with links for now Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRdeep inside I am very angry (that other thing)Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRand want to just put a stop sign on it,Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRget on with what actually mattersAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRif you ru which gmnisrv Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRit'll give you the full pathAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRjust ruun the binaryAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRthere is optional -c option if you want to use an alternative config (ini) fileAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRbut the current location is logical and consistent with alpine standardsAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRI've left commented out some contingenciesAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRcurrently there is also a cert for serving the same files from news.tuxmachines.orgAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRI suggest putting that file in git also, but that would likely be a new directory, most likelyAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRnamed geminiAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRwith the rc stuff, the configs, and later on code related to itAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRif there is shared code across Git-TR/gemini, then we need to think carefully howAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRnot to maintain the same functionality in two reposAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRas that would add much overheadAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRaround midnight last night I did all the end-of-month tasks, many are gemini-relaredAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRI get better and faster at doing these, can finish all the tasks in less than 20 mins (some not relaed Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRto sites at all)Aug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRno, the config file is in /usr/etc/gmnisrv.iniAug 01 08:17
schestowitz-TRfgAug 01 08:19
schestowitz-TRI stopped the current daemonAug 01 08:19
Techrights-sec2It's ok to resume.  Much more work is needed on the init file,Aug 01 08:20
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schestowitz-TR0/Aug 01 11:06
schestowitz-TRbackAug 01 11:06
schestowitz-TRI got all the files, you can delete the tarballAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRgoing to town later, so a bit tight with timeAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRwe need to have sqlite backups scripted at some point, and rsync from server to offsiteAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRsorry, just arriving at the sceneAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRapk can keep the package updatedAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRbetter not to change the path of the binaryAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRit would cause confusion for package managerAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRsamer for default location of ini fileAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRwhich in turn specifies custom dirs (which is fine)Aug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRbeen over a week now and daniel p. runs his new site on a domain neither i nor w3c can accessAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRsome very big mitake thereAug 01 11:13
schestowitz-TRor maybe icann or aimilar censor the domain at dns level, but I doubt itAug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2backAug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2I thought there was an error with the scaling script:Aug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/31/Skrooge_2.28.0_released.shtmlAug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2and, although the above image did not use it, there was, so it's fixed nowAug 01 11:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Skrooge 2.28.0 releasedAug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2tar'ed the old document root, the one from the 19thAug 01 11:13
Techrights-sec2The package 'mosquitto-clients' might be needed.Aug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2looking at the init script for gmnisrvAug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2gmnisrv ended up in /usr/bin by accident instead of /usr/sbin   Aug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2how is it maintained / updated?Aug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2we should probably make a second Git repository on tm-new for sysadmin Aug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2configurations and scriptsAug 01 11:14
Techrights-sec2See /etc/logrotate.d/gmnisrv /etc/init.d/gmnisrvAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2ok thanksAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2the sqlite3 backups should be easy, just a matter of locking the file whileAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2gzipping a copyAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2ok npAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2interestingAug 01 11:15
Techrights-sec2possibleAug 01 11:15
schestowitz-TRthe tm gemini capsule says connection refused, so I assume you work on something or powered down the thingAug 01 11:18
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile I'll catch up with linksAug 01 11:18
schestowitz-TRgoing to down (many things to do), then shift at work 5:30-1amAug 01 11:18
schestowitz-TRthen free till weekendAug 01 11:18
schestowitz-TRI took holidaysAug 01 11:18
schestowitz-TRbtw, they said next meeting would be sugust 1stAug 01 11:19
schestowitz-TRhere we are and not a word Aug 01 11:19
schestowitz-TRHR tricks Aug 01 11:19
schestowitz-TRin the meantime I get paid but I want out by year's endAug 01 11:19
schestowitz-TRthey have weaponised workers' protections against workersAug 01 11:19
schestowitz-TRHR and lawyers...Aug 01 11:19
Techrights-sec2yes, there has been a lot of work here, checking ...Aug 01 11:19
Techrights-sec2it's listening to localhost exclusively, againAug 01 11:19
Techrights-sec2HR is not about worker protections rather to protect the administration againstAug 01 11:19
Techrights-sec2the workersAug 01 11:19
Techrights-sec2fixed, somenhow the gmnisrv configuratio nfile got reverted to earlierAug 01 11:20
schestowitz-TRat some point we need to set a new group for sharing of gemini .gmi files across accounts, e.g. from sqlite to ~gemini/geminiAug 01 11:22
schestowitz-TRfor now I just make index.gmi liberally accessibleAug 01 11:22
Techrights-sec2it shows a walloftext atmAug 01 11:23
Techrights-sec2ok but a priority should be making a second repository for system administrationAug 01 11:23
Techrights-sec2the question is how to have it a shared hierarchy yet preserve the filesystemAug 01 11:23
Techrights-sec2permissions.  Perhaps that can't be done.Aug 01 11:23
Techrights-sec2If it is an XOR choice, I'd say keep it shared and let the deployed filesAug 01 11:23
Techrights-sec2keep track of their own permissionsAug 01 11:23
schestowitz-TRif "gemini.tm" becomes operations for new nodes, then it can already be treated as tandem for "old"Aug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRbecause there is no gemini at all for oldAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRI've spent a lot ogf time trying to keep new in sync for testing's sake,Aug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRbut when someone else submits a story I don't add it yetAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRalso, for the time being adding fgollowup linksAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRis only done in "old" because it's a lot of workAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRthere was a tech media story the other day about gemini and capsules that are active grew a bit faster latelyAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRmaybe people with free time (holidays)Aug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRtm would be the first "proper" linux news site in geminispaceAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRwe have the skills and existing code to make it work fast, others barely know what this thing isAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRlast month TR served 400k pages in gemini://Aug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRjune was 500k, but still steadyAug 01 11:33
schestowitz-TRwas afk, back nowAug 01 11:34
Techrights-sec2ok, the group gemtext is now a shared group for sharing of .gmi filesAug 01 11:34
Techrights-sec2:)Aug 01 11:34
Techrights-sec2also making use of the adm group for reading logs and sys for scriptsAug 01 11:34
schestowitz-TRexcellent, so it's getting to the point where we want it to beAug 01 11:36
schestowitz-TRsorry, I need to catch up with feeds and postAug 01 11:36
schestowitz-TRbefore we leaveAug 01 11:36
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 11:36
schestowitz-TRit'll get cloudy circa 3pm, so want to leave in 1-2 hoursAug 01 11:36
schestowitz-TRfridge is almost empty alreadyAug 01 11:36
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schestowitz-TRcleaned feeds, another refresh roundAug 01 11:54
schestowitz-TRDaily Links, otherlinks etc. can come laterAug 01 11:54
schestowitz-TRI think Gemini can really screw GAFAM if it picks up millions of users (IF!)Aug 01 11:54
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schestowitz-TRsent to bankAug 01 15:33
schestowitz-TRargued a lotAug 01 15:33
schestowitz-TRas a goodwill gesture for bad service they gave us 117 pounds offAug 01 15:33
schestowitz-TRso it sort of paid off, in a matter of 30 minsAug 01 15:33
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 15:34
Techrights-sec2what is up with having a query string in the image URL ?Aug 01 15:34
Techrights-sec2http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff,_Sponsorted_Puff_Pieces,_and_Leftovers.shtmlAug 01 15:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Red Hat / IBM Fluff, Sponsorted Puff Pieces, and LeftoversAug 01 15:34
schestowitz-TRa) query string is a known issue Aug 01 15:37
schestowitz-TRsometimes I have to rename after wget added weird symbols to filenameAug 01 15:37
schestowitz-TRb) the escalation to a manager helps as well as veiled threat we'd take all the money elsewhereAug 01 15:37
schestowitz-TRit's enough money to live on for over a decade (if you live stingy)Aug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TRthe turnaround was very visible and it took a lot of persuation when she lost the argumentAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TRbut the lessons wasAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TR1) banks can do anything they want and leap past the red tapeAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TR2) you can be compensated without even asking for it, esp. if they risk losing a clientAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TR3) rianne could not do this on her own, that's why I ended up phjoning to "book" only to be toldAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TRI cannot bookAug 01 15:38
schestowitz-TRvulnmerable little asian women don't scare themAug 01 15:38
Techrights-sec2should the script rename the files so as to trim off the query string?Aug 01 15:39
schestowitz-TRquery strings ought not to exist in images in the first placeAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TRit's a webcancerAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TRI think it's used for nothing but spying/trackingAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TReven on imagesAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TReven css has been weaponised like thisAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TRe.g. proprietary fonts like Daniel Alekstanderson or whatever his anme was(Opera/Norway)Aug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TRbtw, we found some veg quarter price, took everythingAug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TRit tastes better when you know it's discounted ;-)Aug 01 15:41
schestowitz-TR----Aug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRside note: bankers like to say customers are v<luedAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRand that they are not undertaffedAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRthen you point out to the m that we both klnow you're lying to oinselkfAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRand nthat ultimately banks are abotu "efficiencies" and issuing more loans, derivatives etc.Aug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRwith money they barely even (maybe 1:10 ratio asets/labilities)Aug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRbut still noo shops will have staff adcmitting these issuesAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TReven if you tell them your're actively campaigning to stop this class robbery and impoverishing agend (to workers)Aug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRthey're too afria<d of losing the jobAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRthey cannot afford to lose itAug 01 15:47
schestowitz-TRand the boot is tighters on the neck in these timesAug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRno leeway for questniooning the employerAug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRgrowing one's own food is very economic if you can ensure they always have decent soil, enough water, and you won't be moving homes while they're stillAug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRcapable of bearing fruit/rootAug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRin our case, the soil is shallow and there are animals posing risk to any crops Aug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRthere's a chinese couple two houses down from ours that grows a few thingsAug 01 15:48
schestowitz-TRgrowing one's own food is becoming more economic, but only if you cannot find discountedAug 01 15:50
schestowitz-TRon weds we might pursue a lot more, it's sometimes thrilling to see how much can be savedAug 01 15:50
schestowitz-TRbut not lately, it has gotten harderAug 01 15:50
schestowitz-TRzero-summersAug 01 16:10
schestowitz-TRany person buying food for lower price or obtaining free food is "loss sales"Aug 01 16:10
schestowitz-TRin a "captive market"Aug 01 16:10
Techrights-sec2ackAug 01 16:12
schestowitz-TRif a "good" (generous, not low-budget) meal is 10 euros per day per person, a couple is 600 eruos per month. Get the same Aug 01 16:12
schestowitz-TR"premium" items quarter price and you save 450-x12 euros per yearAug 01 16:12
schestowitz-TRabout 5kAug 01 16:12
schestowitz-TRif you work for Gulag you probably get food at work Aug 01 16:12
schestowitz-TR"free" food to motivate you to stay until 8pmAug 01 16:12
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schestowitz-TRthis past friday ot thurd we had a small dead bird on the pavement to the doorAug 01 16:29
schestowitz-TRwith flies and other insects already all over itAug 01 16:29
schestowitz-TRrianne was shockedAug 01 16:29
schestowitz-TRbut all animals die eventuallyAug 01 16:29
schestowitz-TRdon't think it was window collisionAug 01 16:30
Techrights-sec2otr: did you bury it ?Aug 01 16:36
schestowitz-TRgreen bird, reccyclable, biological, organic... inc. bonesAug 01 16:36
schestowitz-TRrianne's choiceAug 01 16:36
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schestowitz-TRplanned rebootAug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRgoing to take a break nowAug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRall good on the posts frontAug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRand we're happy after some annoyancesAug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRthe enw sis calmAug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRthe trolls make Linux 5.19 something about "Apple"Aug 01 17:59
schestowitz-TRbut f* emAug 01 17:59
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schestowitz-TR*the news is calm (very bad typos there) Aug 01 18:00
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schestowitz-TR[23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> once again a series on EPO corruption will lead us to exposing state level corruptionAug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TR[23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> next monthAug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TR[23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> it's all connected                          Aug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TR Breaking Out the Champagne for a Landmark Occasion | Techrights  htthttp://techrights.org/2022/08/djukanovic-and-campinos/ |  Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrAug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TRights.org/2022/08/01/djukanovic-and-campinos/                        Aug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TR45k techrights gemini reqwuests todayAug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TRif tuxmachines gemini capsule acts different from the site, e.g. git front end, we can deploy there too a gemini https proxyAug 01 23:25
schestowitz-TRbut its value would not be so highAug 01 23:25
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