●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 01, 2021 ●● ● Dec 01 [00:14] *altlink_354 has quit (connection closed) [00:14] *altlink_9d8 (~altlink_9d8@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:22] *techrights_guest|20 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:44] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:59] Techrights-sec2 HTTP connectivity from the RPi there to TR is slow to nothing [00:59] Techrights-sec2 thus the cron job for Gemini keeps failing [00:59] Techrights-sec2 adding some loops as a work-around but that won't solve the actual network [00:59] Techrights-sec2 problems [00:59] Techrights-sec2 it can take several minutes to fetch the RSS feed from TR ● Dec 01 [01:00] schestowitz-TR can the traffic shape have an exclusion specified for this address? we have b/w to spare, it just prioritises gemini over all that ipfs mess [01:02] Techrights-sec2 I think so it is about http in this case [01:02] schestowitz-TR port 81 iirc [01:02] Techrights-sec2 http is port 80 [01:04] schestowitz-TR today activelow tried to open a gemini link from irc before it was "ready" so reducing the latency would help a lot [01:05] Techrights-sec2 tc-shaper-05.sh [01:05] Techrights-sec2 for that, a hook is needed inside the CMS or else even if the cron job is [01:05] Techrights-sec2 run frequenly, it will have a big delay [01:05] schestowitz-TR i see the file [01:07] schestowitz-TR running now [01:16] Techrights-sec2 ack [01:16] Techrights-sec2 it makes interactive SSH very slow, I may have to adjust it [01:16] Techrights-sec2 running the cron script again now, it took 12 minutes before [01:16] Techrights-sec2 hopefully it will only take a couple of minutes now [01:16] schestowitz-TR it also slowed down our whole home connection. Usually I run version 2 of the script , in ~pi/tc [01:17] Techrights-sec2 try it now, I've prioritized DNS [01:18] schestowitz-TR I don't have version 02, just 03 and later [01:19] Techrights-sec2 I don't have version 02, just 03 and later [01:19] schestowitz-TR okit now runs the new version 5 [01:20] Techrights-sec2 trying the cron script again, last run was 3.5 minutes [01:20] Techrights-sec2 thanks [01:20] Techrights-sec2 is IPFS running at the moment? [01:20] schestowitz-TR it always needs to run [01:23] Techrights-sec2 ok [01:23] Techrights-sec2 seems better with interactive SSH now [01:23] Techrights-sec2 and the cron script took 2.3 minutes to run [01:23] Techrights-sec2 if things are ok otherwise, then maybe v 05 should stay [01:23] Techrights-sec2 I'll look into not throttling DNS at all, rather than having it in the [01:23] Techrights-sec2 highest priority queue [01:23] schestowitz-TR thanks, when rianne watches some videos and I do heavy surfing we'll know the full impact [01:25] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:25] Techrights-sec2 ok but it can only affect the traffic going out through the RPi, [01:25] Techrights-sec2 especially traffic originating from the RPi. Other traffic should [01:25] Techrights-sec2 be unaffecred unless it hogs too much of the general router's connection. [01:26] schestowitz-TR ipfs tends to do this isf it can [01:26] activelow no problem, i only didn't know it can take more than 15minutes [01:27] schestowitz-TR we are tweaking it, activelow [01:27] schestowitz-TR it runs from a home connection, residential/copper [01:28] activelow the http site was available [01:28] Techrights-sec2 . [01:28] Techrights-sec2 IPFS gets rate 500kbit prio 5 [01:28] Techrights-sec2 The Gemini page has a comment about when the next calculated update should be [01:28] Techrights-sec2 however since the script has failed to connect via HTTP so often, that [01:28] Techrights-sec2 estimate has usually been off. I've added some work-around retry loops. [01:28] Techrights-sec2 Not infinite loops though. Just 10 tries and then croak. [01:29] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) [01:32] Techrights-sec2 """ [01:32] Techrights-sec2 Please note the above might be slightly out of date, they are synched from HTTP every 3 hours Next updat [01:32] Techrights-sec2 e at approximately 04:20 UTC. [01:32] Techrights-sec2 """ [01:32] Techrights-sec2 Should that be every hour or every other hour instead> [01:32] Techrights-sec2 ? [01:32] schestowitz-TR nowadays I run the script after every time I publish something, so that leaves IRC posts as as the "odd ones" [01:34] Techrights-sec2 Excellent. Though I wish there were a convenient way to automate that. [01:34] schestowitz-TR it is now chained as one among 4 tasks [01:35] schestowitz-TR i used to run it manually from the cli in cavan, the xfce4 machine, now just ctrl+alt+p [01:35] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:37] Techrights-sec2 It may need its own lock file then, soon if not already [01:46] *techrights_guest|20 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:51] *techrights_guest|41 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Dec 01 [02:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-j1d.a8a.npf7kv.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 01 [04:27] *hyperreal (~hyperreal@uwig9nz6889zi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 01 [05:42] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) [05:50] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 01 [06:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:33] Techrights-sec2 back in some hours [06:33] Techrights-sec2 added locking to the script also [06:33] schestowitz-TR ty [06:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-j1d.a8a.npf7kv.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:53] *techrights_guest|72 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Dec 01 [07:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-j1d.a8a.npf7kv.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 01 [08:18] *altlink_9d8 has quit (connection closed) [08:18] *altlink_95a (~altlink_95a@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:20] Techrights-sec2 np [08:20] schestowitz-TR I've just tried the tr- script and it prompts for password now, the key still there..? [08:40] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Dec 01 [09:58] Techrights-sec2 Will check... [09:58] Techrights-sec2 Try now? [09:58] Techrights-sec2 If that does not match, then please put the public key here or in a file on [09:58] Techrights-sec2 the RPi and I will place it in the right position: [09:58] Techrights-sec2 ssh-keygen -y -f keyfilename ● Dec 01 [10:04] Techrights-sec2 ok, should work again now [10:04] schestowitz-TR yes, no more password [10:05] schestowitz-TR thanks for adding the lock, I can see it with 'git show' now [10:07] Techrights-sec2 Excellent. I'll have to adjust better to the SSH latency until the traffic [10:07] Techrights-sec2 shaper can be tuned. I think that maybe there should be no throttling [10:07] Techrights-sec2 of /interactive/ SSH [10:08] schestowitz-TR at 12:10 I will check that the git updates in gemini work OK, as for a number of days they failed and needed manual intervention [10:11] Techrights-sec2 np, with all the ways the script can get called, it is important that [10:11] Techrights-sec2 only on instance runs at a time. Multiple copies won't break anything just [10:11] Techrights-sec2 waste time. [10:11] Techrights-sec2 Were the Git updates for Gemini also breaking? [10:11] Techrights-sec2 That'll be harder to tune, since it uses Git itself and that expects [10:11] Techrights-sec2 fully reliable networking. [10:12] schestowitz-TR wait [10:12] schestowitz-TR i need to clarify [10:12] schestowitz-TR I think the git thing was not related to network [10:12] schestowitz-TR but to the time we reset it [10:12] schestowitz-TR running it manually fixed things, but I want toi see it's back to normal [10:22] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:23] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:24] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Dec 01 [11:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@95a4skviqqn56.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:35] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@mupb6a256trnq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:55] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 01 [12:15] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:26] schestowitz-TR git at gemini updated OK, I've just checkedd [12:26] schestowitz-TR I literally took a nap on the chair before that [12:26] Techrights-sec2 ack [12:26] Techrights-sec2 Seems to have run ok, "Next update at approximately 15:09" [12:26] Techrights-sec2 Excellent [12:26] Techrights-sec2 :/ [12:26] Techrights-sec2 Be sure to move around every 20 minutes or so, at least to stand. [12:27] schestowitz-TR I actually slept with loud music on, that's how tired I got [12:29] Techrights-sec2 "Power naps" are good, but follow up with stair climbing or something. [12:29] Techrights-sec2 Drinking tea or coffee right befor a cat nap helps since the caffeine kicks in [12:29] Techrights-sec2 about the time you wake up. [12:37] Techrights-sec2 Looks like the trial is focusing on royalty and may distract away from Bill [12:37] Techrights-sec2 entirely, if it does not go on for many weeks. [12:37] Techrights-sec2 Trump was apparently also a frequent flyer. [12:38] schestowitz-TR maybe they won't throw more than one person under the bus to appease the peasantry [12:47] Techrights-sec2 http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-301121.html#tNov%2030%2015:21:55 [12:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 [12:47] Techrights-sec2 Doesn't company routinely work with NDAs, too? Putting such material in the [12:47] Techrights-sec2 hands of competitors would be a violation, in principle. M$ can and does [12:48] Techrights-sec2 rummage through its held data, such as e-mail, on the occasions it wishes to [12:48] Techrights-sec2 or feels that it is an advantage to do so. 2014 was one of the more widely [12:48] Techrights-sec2 publicized incidents in that regard. [12:48] Techrights-sec2 https://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/technology/security/microsoft-email/ [12:48] -altlink_95a/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/technology/security/microsoft-email/ [12:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-money.cnn.com | Microsoft defends its right to read your email [12:48] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:50] schestowitz-TR I hope I will receive no response but my message will be internalised, with no waste of time to me or them [12:52] Techrights-sec2 I hope so. The loss of control and integrity caused by outsourcing it one [12:52] Techrights-sec2 problem. The loss of the skills in-house makes it harder to keep skilled [12:52] Techrights-sec2 people. That sounds like a tautology but it works that way. You have to [12:52] Techrights-sec2 have a critical mass of skilled people, for any given focus area, or else [12:52] Techrights-sec2 they will lack peers and leave for where there is a better work environment with [12:52] Techrights-sec2 actual peers. [12:52] schestowitz-TR That idiot Samreen already caused at least 2 geeks to leave, which means fewer of us get help now. But whatever, we're just milking what's left in this firm, I have no stake or shares in this clusterf*ck [12:54] Techrights-sec2 Outsourcing makes it easier for management to pull the plug and cash out on s [12:54] Techrights-sec2 short notice, too. Fewer physical pieces of hardware to cart to the curb [12:54] Techrights-sec2 when it is over. Same for headcount. [12:56] schestowitz-TR but a bit of context, that Google thing was justified by saying they need some call feature to make us look like we're working at honeywell, but I very much doubt GAFAM is needed to accomplish this. Sounds like someone's excuse. [12:58] Techrights-sec2 I am skeptical. Out of curiosity, which specific features were named? [12:58] Techrights-sec2 Video meetings can be done with Big Blue Button. NextCloud for web-based [12:58] Techrights-sec2 uploads, etc. If anything hiding the activities under Google's services, [12:58] Techrights-sec2 makes it look like a small shop posing as a medium shop. [12:58] schestowitz-TR as I understand it, we already do this with other clients and have done that for ages, with a company called gradwell that does asterisk [12:59] schestowitz-TR the basic idea is, company phones a number, gets through to us ● Dec 01 [13:01] Techrights-sec2 Being paranoid about business, outsourcing like that also makes it "easy" [13:01] Techrights-sec2 to pivot to a different company, say from Google to M$. [13:01] Techrights-sec2 But tht's just me being negative. [13:01] Techrights-sec2 Asterisk is very useful and does not need much processing power mostly just [13:01] Techrights-sec2 bandwidth. [13:01] Techrights-sec2 I used to have a manual for it. A friend used to have a small business [13:01] Techrights-sec2 setting it up and such. Highly profitable until he got bought out. [13:01] Techrights-sec2 His choice but he would be sitting pretty if he had held on a decade and [13:01] Techrights-sec2 built things out further. [13:02] schestowitz-TR our company was established 1998. The earliest client of ours is defunct for like 7 years already, but occasional it involved some proprietary bits, so good riddance [13:02] schestowitz-TR however, our own infra, built by geeks with free software, is being ripped apart bit by bit [13:04] schestowitz-TR I'm the oldest working employee (not age, duration) other than the CEO, which I think looks OK in a CV, but with things like passwords sent to LastPass you know you're dealing with a deeply incompetent entity [13:04] Techrights-sec2 Yes, I gather that. However, which microsofters are doing the ripping currently? [13:04] Techrights-sec2 Yep. [13:05] schestowitz-TR they are NOT microsofters, just clueless, careless, lazy [13:06] Techrights-sec2 Yep. [13:06] Techrights-sec2 ack [13:06] Techrights-sec2 However if they shave off all the edges, at some point they will be shaving [13:06] Techrights-sec2 slices off of the core. [13:06] schestowitz-TR I believe you already saw my post about Citation/Atlas and "security"; imagine we outsourced much of the operations to that 'clown' and they want us to 'pass' such 'courses'... [13:07] schestowitz-TR it is 'indignifying'... if that's an actual word [13:10] Techrights-sec2 I think so. Demeaning may be the correct term for that. [13:11] schestowitz-TR rianne is talking to me about this now... yesterday and today she said, we're becoming like "linux foundation"... a company where the name does not match what people use [13:13] schestowitz-TR with me caring so little at this stage, let's just say, publicly even, that non-engs typically don't use gnu/linux, cannot be talked to about some technical things, don't seem to care about the company, hire relatives etc. [13:15] Techrights-sec2 It sounds like that has happened there. [13:15] Techrights-sec2 :( [13:15] Techrights-sec2 Hiring relatives and unqualified people might be actionable... [13:17] Techrights-sec2 back in a bit ● Dec 01 [15:30] Techrights-sec2 it would be best to try to figure out how to smooth out the rough patches [15:31] Techrights-sec2 I notice periodic intervals of severe latency with v5. There are also [15:31] Techrights-sec2 times when interactive SSH returns to normal. [15:31] schestowitz-TR headsup: depending on my activity I might be switzhing between v2 and v5 back and forth [15:33] schestowitz-TR ok, I should elaborate a little [15:33] schestowitz-TR I have about 5 or 6 versions lying about [15:33] schestowitz-TR I used to try to edit them but to no avail, as I have poor grasp [15:33] schestowitz-TR with v2 browsing on that machine is a joke [15:33] schestowitz-TR it's laughable bad [15:33] schestowitz-TR and synergy/barrier is also a joke [15:33] schestowitz-TR where v5 comes in handy is maybe ipfs, as it typically times out with requests for large objects [15:34] schestowitz-TR but it maxes up the bw most of the time [15:34] Techrights-sec2 it would be best to try to figure out how to smooth out the rough patches [15:34] Techrights-sec2 I notice periodic intervals of severe latency with v5. There are also [15:34] Techrights-sec2 times when interactive SSH returns to normal. Same here. PF is easy to under [15:34] Techrights-sec2 stand but not tc. It should not time out though, just slow to a trickle [15:36] schestowitz-TR fwiw, I have copied and chowned v2 to your homedir [15:36] Techrights-sec2 thanks [15:38] schestowitz-TR I have started uploading a long video while it transcodes, so v5 is too slow me that [15:38] schestowitz-TR it is 40 mins about epo and mentions, as usual, covid patents along the way [15:38] schestowitz-TR I usually start uploadinmg about halfway through encoding, then rsync the file at the end, do checksums [15:38] Techrights-sec2 Yes the HTTP and SSH outgoing get caught in the queue. [15:39] schestowitz-TR with ipfs iundex (html) it can take haldf an hour to upload abou 2mb, but it typically -- not always -- get there 'on time' for the next step [15:44] Techrights-sec2 Ok then outgoing bulk SSH should /not/ be in the queue, or else that part [15:44] Techrights-sec2 of the queue should be capped at the router's limit. ● Dec 01 [16:09] Techrights-sec2 Can you test tc-shaper-06.sh briefly? I might make more changes but [16:09] Techrights-sec2 want to see if that is the right direction. [16:09] schestowitz-TR ok, hang onn, Daily Links [16:12] schestowitz-TR diff'ed 5 and 6, now running v6 [16:13] schestowitz-TR 4pm, 21.2k reqs in gemini [16:18] *altlink_95a has quit (connection closed) [16:18] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:23] Techrights-sec2 That's a lot of Gemini activity. I hope not much is bot traffic. [16:23] Techrights-sec2 A DDG article is still top. [16:23] Techrights-sec2 Strangely Git is also near the top. [16:24] schestowitz-TR this makes sense as many people in Twitter link to it [16:24] Techrights-sec2 Strangely Git is also near the top.Git? [16:25] psydruid https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/introducing-buy-now-pay-later-in-microsoft-edge/m-p/2967030/highlight/true [16:25] -altlink_cc9/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/introducing-buy-now-pay-later-in-microsoft-edge/m-p/2967030/highlight/true [16:25] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techcommunity.microsoft.com | Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge - Microsoft Tech Community [16:25] psydruid Microsoft should be fighting for its right to kill itself [16:26] schestowitz-TR Everyone loves Microsoft [16:26] schestowitz-TR maybe they learned from Mozilla [16:26] schestowitz-TR yesterday I opened firefox for somehting and was greeted with a full-tab/page ad [16:26] schestowitz-TR their VPN [16:26] schestowitz-TR 'their' [16:26] schestowitz-TR resellers [16:27] psydruid I saw it for the second time yesterday too [16:27] psydruid I need to install LibreFox and be done with that [16:27] psydruid wait [16:27] psydruid LibreWolf [16:28] schestowitz-TR LibreFox [16:28] schestowitz-TR you can get sued for that [16:28] schestowitz-TR they own all foxes [16:28] schestowitz-TR in browsers [16:28] schestowitz-TR also fennex [16:28] psydruid yeah, big mistake [16:28] schestowitz-TR fennec and similar [16:28] psydruid capital mistake even [16:28] schestowitz-TR I once read they had sort of intimidated librewolf over the name [16:29] schestowitz-TR but that was about a year ago and I forgot the name, would take ages to find or pin down the link [16:29] schestowitz-TR he said something along the lines of Mozilla watching closed what he was doing in github [16:29] schestowitz-TR he has since then left github afaik [16:29] schestowitz-TR *closely [16:30] schestowitz-TR being watched is not a compliment [16:30] schestowitz-TR it's like pervery mjg [16:30] schestowitz-TR watching you [16:30] schestowitz-TR or EPO sending lawyers to "watch" me [16:30] schestowitz-TR which they did [16:30] schestowitz-TR linkedin etc. [16:30] schestowitz-TR stalking is the right word [16:31] psydruid I'll be self-hosting everything from home in the future with mirrors I control as well [16:31] psydruid GAMMA is in the business of cyberstalking [16:56] schestowitz > Hope you're very well, [16:56] schestowitz > [16:56] schestowitz > For those interested in computer security, this week I've written [16:56] schestowitz > about why it's so hard to teach: [16:56] schestowitz > [16:57] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/teaching-cybersecurity/ [16:57] schestowitz > [16:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Dr. Andy Farnell on Teaching Cybersecurity in an Age of Fake Security | Techrights [16:57] schestowitz > --- [16:57] schestowitz > If these article messages are unwelcome/annoying please let me know [16:57] schestowitz > and I will stop sending you announcements. Otherwise I'd love to hear [16:57] schestowitz > your thoughts and feelings about these and other tech-rights issues [16:57] schestowitz > affecting us all these days, or about the book Digital Vegan. [16:57] schestowitz > (https://digitalvegan.net) [16:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-digitalvegan.net | Digital Vegan Book [16:57] schestowitz > --- [16:57] schestowitz > [16:57] schestowitz > all best wishes and thanks, [16:57] schestowitz comments: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/11/29/1457249 [16:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Why We Can't Teach Cybersecurity - SoylentNews [16:57] schestowitz psydruid: ah, META [16:57] schestowitz so GAMMA now [16:57] schestowitz like Germany GAMMA GROUP [16:57] schestowitz of Finfisher [16:57] schestowitz the Germany Pegasus [16:57] schestowitz *German [16:59] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher [16:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Gamma Group - Wikipedia [16:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | FinFisher - Wikipedia ● Dec 01 [17:15] schestowitz Article on teaching cybersecurity now accessed/viewed almost 5,000 times based on number of requests for the book photo. [17:20] schestowitz-TR I have just changed back to v2 again, seeing that the upload is slow but I will run v6 again later... maybe we c [17:21] schestowitz-TR an script a different one for each time of the day [17:22] schestowitz-TR hbeck, maybe I'll make a GUI panel by which to quikckly shift between modes [17:22] schestowitz psydruid: if you host from home we can do 'co-op' or colo [17:23] schestowitz I help host yours too and make it mutual, based on trust (serving authentic content) [17:23] schestowitz we could always use more nodes [17:23] schestowitz as you can see from the above, we're pushing the network capacity at my residence to its limits already, depending on time and protocl [17:23] schestowitz so we need to traffic-shape [17:23] psydruid schestowitz, I want to, but I'll get back with it to you in a few months as my personal situation is unstable at the moment [17:24] schestowitz o [17:24] schestowitz ok [17:24] psydruid I was hoping more people would come forward with offers to host things [17:25] psydruid because if we are all doing it, who is responsible and who are you going to sue and/or punish? [17:25] psydruid or cut off from the internet even [17:25] schestowitz the ISPs fear this [17:25] schestowitz one of many reasons they discourage home hosting [17:25] schestowitz and cripple upload speeds [17:26] psydruid I know and that's why I like and advocate it [17:26] schestowitz it would land them DMCA letters and stuff [17:26] schestowitz at the point of thinking whether to disconnect their clients [17:26] schestowitz BTW, of course Mr. GAFAM/GAMMA/Goolag did nothing [17:26] schestowitz after more than a week [17:26] schestowitz just hot air [17:27] psydruid what was his complaint even? [17:27] schestowitz give me a month [17:27] schestowitz I'll do a video or article about it when it cools down [17:27] psydruid ok [17:27] schestowitz maybe a xmas gift for him ;-) [17:28] schestowitz he sent it from the US for thanksgiving [17:28] schestowitz they do have xmas there [17:28] schestowitz of course I could countersue or sue [17:28] schestowitz but it's a waste of my time [17:28] schestowitz (and money) [17:28] schestowitz losers go to lawyers [17:28] schestowitz the rest of us get things done [17:29] schestowitz psydruid: can you read a short draft re EPO? [17:29] schestowitz upload took 2 hours (!) [17:29] psydruid it is a bit worrying that such lawsuits can ruin people in our corrupted western societies [17:29] schestowitz we experimented with 'tc' [17:30] schestowitz psydruid: at best, they waste time and harm morale [17:30] schestowitz I never got sued [17:30] schestowitz they'd be smart not to touch me, I know my rights and would stand for them [17:30] psydruid I've just finished watching my lecture, so I can read it now [17:30] schestowitz psydruid: http://techrights.org/2021/12/01/epo-vs-science/ [17:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO Dislikes Science and Scientists | Techrights [17:31] schestowitz thanks, it is short [17:35] psydruid "blind faiths" -> "blind faith" (faith is uncountable in this sense, I believe) [17:36] psydruid "less experience examiners" -> "less experienced examiners" [17:37] psydruid that's it [17:37] schestowitz thanks, done!! [17:37] schestowitz if you watch it, you will see in most videos on EPO I mention in passing COVID patents [17:37] schestowitz the MSM picked up on it [17:37] schestowitz and they keep pushing this [17:56] psydruid I'm going to watch it now [17:58] schestowitz-TR cool ● Dec 01 [18:04] psydruid I'm getting Microsoft vibes from GCC (General Consultative Committee) [18:08] schestowitz-TR MAC [18:08] schestowitz-TR used to be GAC [18:08] schestowitz-TR search techrights for it to better understand the history of those EPO panels [18:08] schestowitz-TR stacked [18:15] Techrights-sec2 I've simplified tc-shaper-06.sh even more, perhaps this is a bit closer to [18:15] Techrights-sec2 the goal? [18:15] schestowitz-TR I will rerun it now and see how it goes [18:16] Techrights-sec2 Thanks. [18:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wez8k5dj5pxbk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:41] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: hi [18:41] schestowitz s http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/01/apples-and-oranges/ [18:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Government: Lets Compare Apples to Oranges [18:41] schestowitz simplified [18:41] schestowitz CDC can be the same [18:41] schestowitz excess deaths data can be a month behind [18:41] schestowitz before they process all the death certs [18:44] DaemonFC schestowitz, There's something new going around that's pretty nasty. [18:44] DaemonFC The news isn't talking about it. [18:44] schestowitz the economy? [18:44] schestowitz wait [18:44] schestowitz there is inflation [18:44] schestowitz THAT IS GOOD [18:44] DaemonFC Lots of a bronchitis-like condition that lasts about a month and puts people in the hospital. [18:44] DaemonFC But it's not COVID. [18:44] schestowitz there is WORKER SHORTAGE [18:44] DaemonFC They're testng negative for COVID. [18:44] schestowitz There is economic rebound!! [18:45] schestowitz unemployment at 5%%!!!! [18:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, did you see my comments about wage theft? [18:45] DaemonFC Earlier. [18:45] schestowitz yes [18:45] schestowitz I took a nap [18:45] schestowitz rianne found the whole thing about sleeping bag hilarious [18:46] DaemonFC Well it is cheaper than paying the electric company. [18:46] schestowitz I know [18:46] schestowitz we never turn on the heating [18:46] schestowitz unless we have a guest [18:46] schestowitz which did not happen this year [18:46] schestowitz last year maybe just employees of internet/energy supplier [18:47] schestowitz no heating on since 2019 [18:47] schestowitz nice... [18:47] schestowitz when we had guests [18:50] DaemonFC Well, it costs about $500-600 in extra electric per year to run the heat over the cold months. [18:50] DaemonFC That's for a 1 bedroom apartment. [18:51] DaemonFC It costs nothing to sit back and let the landlord's furnace for the building work harder. [18:51] DaemonFC Also, other tenants. [18:51] DaemonFC So I disabled our baseboards at the fuse box. [18:51] DaemonFC I can turn them back on if it gets horrible. [18:52] DaemonFC But this business where it turns on and heats the room to 68 because it got down to 57 degrees is just wasting power. [18:53] DaemonFC schestowitz, I keep track of my usage compared with "all neighbors" and "efficient neighbors". ComEd knows which units are listed as what kind of an apartment in the area. [18:54] DaemonFC I use a lot more than my "neighbors" for June, July, and August, about the same for May and September, and much less for the rest of the months. [18:54] DaemonFC So this is basically where I keep the average utility cost down after running the air conditioner hard for about 90-100 days. [18:55] DaemonFC Mandy had no idea what I was talking about until I showed him the electric bills. [18:56] DaemonFC He was like "How much was our electric bill this month?". I go "$37.". "Wow, so cheap." "How much next month?" "ComEd says projected is $31." He goes, "What about "$100+?" I said, "That was with air conditioning.". [18:56] DaemonFC I turn that bad boy all the way to hahaha. [18:56] DaemonFC It gets up to 110 outside and it's 68 degrees in here. [18:57] DaemonFC That takes a lot of electricity. [18:57] DaemonFC Then winter comes along. By January/February we're getting snow dumped on us, and the temperature can turn very very negative. [18:58] DaemonFC Sometimes we'll get a few days where it's -18 or -30 if you count wind chill factor. [18:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [18:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [18:58] DaemonFC So trying to bring the temperature up takes as much or more power than running the air conditioner in the summer. [18:58] DaemonFC The harder you fight, the more your electric bill costs. [18:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, I about died when my cousins in Indiana told me they were paying gas bills of like $500 one winter to heat their house. [18:59] DaemonFC It wasn't even a huge house. [18:59] DaemonFC $500 and that's like 10-15 years ago. ● Dec 01 [19:00] DaemonFC So with inflation, they're paying heat bills equal to my entire rent! [19:00] DaemonFC For about a third of the year, at least. [19:00] DaemonFC Nobody thinks about these things. [19:00] DaemonFC The bank's like, "Want a mortgage? Sign here!". [19:01] DaemonFC "Oh, uhm, now you need homeowner's and you pay all your utilities, and we don't fix stuff, and if you miss payments over the next 30 years we take the house back and sue you and you don't own anything. Have fun!". [19:01] schestowitz-TR yup [19:01] schestowitz-TR i never took loans [19:02] schestowitz-TR living within one's means [19:02] DaemonFC I signed Mandy up for enhanced Short Term Disability insurance at Walmart. [19:02] schestowitz-TR no fancy things like hair stylists and cars [19:02] schestowitz-TR I cut my hair today [19:02] DaemonFC This is the first open enrollment he qualified and it's cheap, cheap cheap. [19:02] schestowitz-TR took less than 5 mins [19:02] DaemonFC I haven't seen it come out of a paycheck yet, but I calculated about $2-3 per two weeks. [19:03] DaemonFC And if anything happened where he can't work, Family and Medical Leave Act covers his absence for 6 months, and Short Term Disability kicks in and pays 80% of his normal salary. [19:03] DaemonFC Walmart throws in basic insurance where it's like you get $250 a week if you don't buy more. Most employers don't even do that much. [19:04] DaemonFC But I calculated that he could get over 4.5x as much money by kicking in $6 in premiums each month. [19:04] DaemonFC no fancy things like hair stylists and cars [19:04] DaemonFC There's nothing fancy about my car, but it works and it works well. [19:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: rianne and I laugh here [19:04] schestowitz-TR she read it also [19:05] schestowitz-TR about how Mandy thought you had paid so little [19:05] schestowitz-TR so innocent [19:05] DaemonFC It's always funny to see people cut me off and then they're surprised that this old rustbucket is fast. [19:05] schestowitz-TR our power/energy costs would double if we used heating [19:05] schestowitz-TR instead we clothe better [19:05] DaemonFC Of course it's fast. It has a big engine that you can't even buy anymore and I just had it mostly rebuilt! [19:05] schestowitz-TR cheaper to buy better sets of bedding, sealing off doors [19:06] schestowitz-TR to build up or retain heat in one [19:06] schestowitz-TR tonight will be minus 2 [19:06] schestowitz-TR and we'll do ok without heating [19:06] schestowitz-TR last week it was minus 5 [19:06] DaemonFC It doesn't get incredible gas mileage though. [19:06] DaemonFC So we take the commuter rail into the city or out to Indiana if we have to go long distances. [19:06] schestowitz-TR cars suck [19:07] schestowitz-TR you cannot use their full capacity [19:07] schestowitz-TR heavy traffic and lights [19:07] schestowitz-TR you end up accelerating over and over again [19:07] DaemonFC I have it tuned up pretty well and it does get better mileage than the EPA window sticker said it should when it was new. [19:07] schestowitz-TR sometimes walking is faster (jams) [19:07] DaemonFC Not bad for 300,000-ish miles later. [19:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The source code of Winamp leaked. [19:09] DaemonFC GitHub took it down. [19:09] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:09] DaemonFC It was everything, including their in_whatever plugins for all audio and video formats. [19:10] DaemonFC With this it should be possible to backport these plug-ins to the Winamp 2.95 release. [19:10] schestowitz-TR Microsoft took it down [19:10] schestowitz-TR shithub is justa brand [19:11] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:11] DaemonFC Yeah, I didn't have to argue with Mandy about him wanting to strip down to his underwear and flip the heat on anymore. [19:11] DaemonFC First of all, he doesn't know how to re-enable it. [19:11] schestowitz-TR the homer simpson scene [19:11] schestowitz-TR sunday no church [19:11] DaemonFC Secondly, he knows that it pretty much triples your power bill. [19:12] DaemonFC Yeah, Marge and the kids off at church. [19:12] schestowitz-TR running a laptop OK [19:12] schestowitz-TR we run 6 concurretly [19:12] schestowitz-TR 24/7 [19:12] DaemonFC Homer on the couch in his underwear drinking a beer. [19:12] schestowitz-TR all of them combined generate some heat and cost less than one single heater [19:12] DaemonFC That was basically what happened when I was a kid. [19:13] DaemonFC Dad at home sleeping until 3 PM on Saturday because he spent the entire week getting 2 hours of sleep per night so he could do his correspondence courses and play Dungeons and Dragons on his computer. [19:14] DaemonFC Then if he was awake on Sunday and mom wanted to go to church, he didn't give a shit if she made me and my brother go, but he never went unless someone died and their funeral was at the church or it was Easter or Christmas. [19:14] DaemonFC He's such a weird person. [19:15] DaemonFC After my mom divorced him, he started writing notes and leaving them on my Aunt's door asking if she wanted to go on dates with him. [19:17] DaemonFC More leftovers tonight. [19:18] DaemonFC I'm thinking turkey, bacon, cheddar sandwiches. [19:18] DaemonFC There's a lot of turkey left. [19:18] DaemonFC I hope iBotta gives me another one this month. [19:18] DaemonFC That would be awesome. You can make so many things with the leftovers. [19:19] DaemonFC I made burritos out of some of it last night. [19:19] DaemonFC Mandy said my "refried beans" were much better this time. [19:19] DaemonFC It's really easy to make them in an instant pot. [19:20] DaemonFC What would be all night soaking them and then simmering or slow cooking for many hours turns into rinse and pressure cook for an hour. [19:20] DaemonFC They're very, very cheap too. [19:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I bought another 20 pound bag of basmati rice. We're not out, but Walmart isn't so good about stocking them. [19:21] DaemonFC I found one more bag and it was on a riser buried under other stuff where only I could get it down. [19:21] DaemonFC Every time you go through one of these bags, you get a cool bag with a zipper on it. [19:21] DaemonFC Could probably use these as free reusable shopping bags for Aldi and stuff. [19:22] DaemonFC They sell "reusable bags" but they're not good material. You can only use them 7-8 times before they have holes poked into them, and they're plastic. [19:22] DaemonFC bbiab [19:24] schestowitz-TR o/ [19:24] schestowitz-TR sorry, was typing article [19:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:52] Techrights-sec2 "The EPO is wasting money on stock market gambling" == financialization [19:52] Techrights-sec2 they start to bring in more money through gambling than through the normal [19:52] Techrights-sec2 work activities. At that point the normal work activities become a charade [19:52] Techrights-sec2 at best, so they can pretend that they are active in a particular field of [19:52] Techrights-sec2 endeavor. More often the normal work activities just get in the way of the [19:52] Techrights-sec2 gambling so in response any staff still involved in normal work activities [19:52] Techrights-sec2 get fired in one way or another. ● Dec 01 [20:13] *techrights_guest|83 (~5198ef1a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:44] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375#m [20:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375#m ) [20:44] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 [20:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 ) [20:44] schestowitz-TR https://twitter.com/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 [20:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BartonBlankson: @schestowitz How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions f https://t.co/v4CzFsJkxw [20:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BartonBlankson: @schestowitz How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions f https://t.co/v4CzFsJkxw [20:49] schestowitz https://twitter.com/brianlinux/status/1466075498174418954 [20:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@brianlinux: https://t.co/3bcxtZ5nFb [20:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Please Note: Bill Gates and Donald Trump Met Countless Times. Theyre Friends, Not Foes. | Techrights [20:49] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 [20:50] schestowitz " [20:50] schestowitz How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions for so long. Why would he not transparently show his interview with Peng Shuai? @WTA [20:50] schestowitz should invite Peng Shuai to Europe or USA for true confirmation of life/wellbeing. [20:50] schestowitz " [20:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/LaurieInMadison/status/1466119587938934785 [20:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LaurieInMadison: @schestowitz Apparently not, because as of today, #ReportDoor is still plagiarizing, as found via a #GoogleNews search. [20:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/GyroGen_TM/status/1466052285251960833 [20:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GyroGen_TM: @schestowitz Need laws against plagiarism too, that's the problem! [20:50] schestowitz https://twitter.com/jrodwyer/status/1465984193427644421 [20:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrodwyer: "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the https://t.co/d5yEIySR5f [20:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrodwyer: "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the https://t.co/d5yEIySR5f [20:50] schestowitz " [20:50] schestowitz Julia O'Dwyer Reminder ribbon [20:50] schestowitz @jrodwyer [20:51] schestowitz [20:51] schestowitz 10h [20:51] schestowitz "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the #US continues to expose its own systemic crimes" [20:51] schestowitz " [20:51] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/eric_heffernan/status/1465945360287764484 [20:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | ERIC HEFFERNAN (@eric_heffernan): "Our own personal block buttons which all platforms have. 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