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[03:46]	schestowitz-TR	in the home directory, you will find a new director, entitled accounting
[03:46]	schestowitz-TR	a week ago a new financial disclosure was quietly released (as I was expecting (end of July each year)
[03:46]	schestowitz-TR	I've included this latest one, plus the one from the year prior
[03:46]	schestowitz-TR	the 4 PNG files show (top) last year's and this year's, comparing analogous pages
[03:46]	schestowitz-TR	/home/roy/ on your machine
● Aug 02
[04:21]	schestowitz-TR	I've configured git messaging, I'll not get system bell when git-tm has "pushed" changes (I'll NOW)
[04:50]	schestowitz-TR	since the qemu fix no bad backups, nothing in dmesg. see TR posts re uefi and linuxtoday.
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[08:18]	Techrights-sec2	otr: I'm not an accountant, I don't know how to read those numbers but they 
[08:18]	Techrights-sec2	otr: seem like they are running out of money based on one of the lines
[08:19]	Techrights-sec	What method did you use for Git messaging?  I think we are the first on the net
[08:19]	Techrights-sec	to have used standard "IoT" messaging.  At least no one else has written about
[08:19]	Techrights-sec	using MQTT+TLS with Git.  
[08:20]	Techrights-sec	Which one is about UEFI?
[08:20]		*Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR	re otr, yes, I made a mistake after rebooting, window in wrong channels
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR	the one about job offers from MSFT
[08:24]	Techrights-sec	
[08:24]	Techrights-sec	ack
[08:24]	Techrights-sec	np
[08:24]	Techrights-sec	checking
[08:26]	Techrights-sec	I saw that one but it did not mention UEFI by name.  Important tidbit to have
[08:26]	Techrights-sec	documented there.  It also means that he is in some kind of contact with M$ or
[08:26]	Techrights-sec	at least viceversa and that his work is attractive to M$ goals
[08:26]	Techrights-sec	^s/his work/controlling his work/
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	it is a URL
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	re accounting, yes, I agree, but did not want to give that away upfront
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	and it does not surprise me, hence our decision even prior to the meetings
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR	the calibre of client changed, as did the nature of the work
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	Can I talk you into looking at roy-monitor-git-with-mqtt.tar.gz ?  
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	:)
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	checking     
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	adding additional --topic options is possible so as to monitor multiple
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	services
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	each service can publish to its own topic, right now we just have two
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	I though TLSv1.3 was in use there?
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	Oh
[08:35]	Techrights-sec	mosquitto_sub --topic foo ... | tee -a /dev/stderr | awk ... | espeak
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	I am already using that
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	see git changes
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	I did about 5 pushes overnight to test with
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	mostly robots.txt
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	I had to change to tls 1.2
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	debian 10
[08:37]	Techrights-sec	I've had to expand my desktop to 6 panels now, there are so many subprojects
[08:37]	Techrights-sec	going on
[08:37]	Techrights-sec	something is wrong with the current usage, your session keeps trying to do
[08:37]	Techrights-sec	redundant connections.  checking ...
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	it is not wrong, at the moment it does both the old and the new approach, but I will alter the frequency of the latter
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	it's on a visible screen, the other is for system bell etc.
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	but is mosquitto_sub being run once or in a loop?  It should be run once and
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	left to wait.
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	it runs only once, outside the loop
[08:40]	Techrights-sec	somehow it appears to be in a loop and while one is running another tries
[08:40]	Techrights-sec	(unsuccessfully) to usurp the connection.  
[08:40]	schestowitz-TR	see daily-linux.sh in git
[08:40]	Techrights-sec	 The loop is about 1 second long.
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	$ find tuxmachines.org/ -type f -name 'daily-linux.sh' -print | wc -l
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	found it, it is in the 'wrong' repository, checking
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	somehow it is going off every second, when run standalone, monitor-git.sh
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	will just wait 
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	can you try stopping the daily-links.sh script for bit and try running
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	monitor-git.sh by itself?   
[08:47]	Techrights-sec	thanks
[08:52]	Techrights-sec	see :/var/log/mosquitto/mosquitto.log
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[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	hi
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	good news: they found the issues with the underwater cable and fixed it afaik
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	I spoke to thr workers, they still work on olther cablle
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	bad newS: the downtime]\
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	*underground, not underwater
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	although the rain may have played a role
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	would rather move on, not talk about uit
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	lkots of catchinmg upw to do
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	pi rebooted, will work tor estaore services...
[14:33]	Techrights-sec	hi
[14:33]	Techrights-sec	ack
[14:54]	Techrights-sec	ok
[14:54]	Techrights-sec	can you please check the update to Git tr-git from this morning and 
[14:54]	Techrights-sec	try pgrep/pkill to cull the multiple background processes?
[14:54]	Techrights-sec	commit : dd083557d76d542d39c46dc79478b59570899b4d
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot seem to reboot the pi from d card
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	could the outage have ruined it?
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	I did some better coverage of the pi while down
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	like enclosures and all
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	but why shuld the sd card be affected?
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	many a number of sequential outages ruined it?
[14:55]	schestowitz-TR	I have backup from a few days ago, but only for /home/*
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[15:02]	Techrights-sec	I'm not sure, the system on the card should generally not be affected by an  
[15:02]	Techrights-sec	unclean shutdown.  It would require a fsck on boot up.  Maybe you can try
[15:02]	Techrights-sec	fsck on the EXT partition there via another machine.  Do you have an adaper     
[15:02]	Techrights-sec	still?
[15:05]	schestowitz-TR	yes, let me try
[15:05]	schestowitz-TR	what command btw?
[15:06]	Techrights-sec	I'm not sure off the top of my head but it would be fsck and then the parition's
[15:06]	Techrights-sec	device
[15:06]	Techrights-sec	be sure not to fsck the wrong partition or the wrong device
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[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	I can get dmesg to see it, i run fsck anbd e2fsck
[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	but it complaints about superblock not being found
[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	I can try to see if rianne's pi can boot this sd card
[15:15]	Techrights-sec	hmm.  reading online about it  
[15:15]	Techrights-sec	ok
● Aug 02
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	the pi now runs off the USB clone
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	but it's very slow
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	same as with rianne
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	even on USB3 port
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	one option is, clone this system to another SD card
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	then boot from that
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	then copy across from backup, which is maybe 2 days old
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	even then it would be out of date a bitkaniini said sd cards are not reliable
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	and my experience has been the same
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	though I cannot say for sure the outages led to thir
[16:15]	schestowitz-TR	and maybe I can still recover this one?
[16:16]	Techrights-sec	yes most people would agree with that assessment
[16:16]	Techrights-sec	you could boot from USB stick.  It might be worth it to keep the data on a 
[16:16]	Techrights-sec	separate device. /home/ on a separate stick
[16:23]	Techrights-sec	probably did you try to use the superblock backup?
[16:26]	Techrights-sec	"Recover superblock on ext4 filesystem"
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[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	yes, I tried all the above, both manuals, from 2 laptops
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	not erven getting close
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	I am thinking, what if I just keep it on USB, which is slow, then backup to external sd card periodically?
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	I think on / (not /home) the main missing stuff is the scripts for changing throttle mode for ipfs
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	for the other files, I can resotr eto a recent snapsho
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	and then copy across some missing files
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	I think this would be doable
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	both could be backed up.  One option might be to have all four USB ports in
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	use, but have two offline.  Two for the system and two for the data.  Or
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	just two, one for the system+data + one offline as a mirror.  Or along those
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	lines, I wonder if it is possible to have a RAID1 system, as in the whole system?
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	Preliminarily it looks like it is possible in general, the question is how and
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	how, specifically on the RPi.
[16:36]	Techrights-sec	https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=306729
[16:36]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forums.raspberrypi.com | Root partition on RAID1 storage - Raspberry Pi Forums
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	let's try going back to recovery
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	so when I enter the card into the laptops there is /dev/sdb
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	but not sdb1 etc.
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	running the comemnts suggested gives no progress
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	my last backup was 2 days ago
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	however it lacks very few system customisations, which we might have in git or homedir anyway
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	this usb that's inside rtight now works with wifi and iptables
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	from what I recall, USB sticks advertise a 5-year guarantee
[16:56]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	like it did before those issues months ago
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	its load average, with ipfs, is high 
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	but gemini and gemini proxy seem responsive
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	I've move from one catastrophe to another
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	and today weon't feel productive
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	if I stay with usb, I can copy in from the latest backup
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	then copy across more recent irc logs and bulletins
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	then I'd have to redo some end of month tasks (not many)
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	either way, I have some text (not important at all) that I added to the pi after backupos
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	the important files were still open on other PCs, so nothing lst there..
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	your call
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	what to do now..
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	I tried again to salvage something from sd... nowhere near close
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	of course it would barely be detected
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	I didn't try on rianne's pi 
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	but I suppose the outcome would be the same
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[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	should we stick with usb stick then
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	and bring back in latest file?
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	some stuff will have been lost with the dead sd card
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	but nothing crucial
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	I can tighten the screws again
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	and restore it to a working state
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	no more ds card
[17:10]	Techrights-sec	probably stay with USB stick from now on   
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	except for clone backup?
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	that's what I shall do then
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	expect some gemini and proxy downtimes while I copy across home directories
[17:21]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:21]	Techrights-sec	another option would be to make a read-only system for the OS and have the
[17:21]	Techrights-sec	data on a second device.
● Aug 02
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	still coying
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	i/o is slow on the usb
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	for backups I can do incremental overnight
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	I just don't have faith in sd cards anymore; you, kaniini, psydroid all witnessed the same
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	so it would probably be a mistake to try again with one
[18:02]	schestowitz-TR	even if they're fast
[18:03]	Techrights-sec	probably; although there are claims around the net that if you get a name-brand
[18:03]	Techrights-sec	microSD card it will last, I have not found that to be the case;
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	i guess I can consiodere myself lucks as 
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	a) no serioust data loss
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	b) finally they seem to have found and fixed the cause of the outage (also the last one that caused
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	similar pi issues
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	c) I'm off work till sat
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	I'll take it slowly, please bear with me and try not to give me more tasks
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	I am taking things on a prioority basis
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	and my dad annoys me a lot 
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	also I went to a soliciitor today for naturalisation
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	jst to avoids staying at home
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	so now I'm drowning in things
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	I have some articles I'll try to publish
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	right now I post links sent
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	then I need to clean rss
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	gemini and proxy work now,. are they respecsive from your end too?
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	that's more important to me than ipfsa
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	ipfs is a lost cause for this scale
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	excellent news on all three points then
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	np
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	I'll stop nagging for a while ;)
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	solicitors are stressful events
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	checking
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	gemini works
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	do they work fast?
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	I access them on lan so cannot judge
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	I'll sync in the july 30 pages soonish
[18:09]	Techrights-sec	the proxy works 
[18:09]	Techrights-sec	congratulations on restoring the system, it's always a nail-biting experience
[18:09]	Techrights-sec	yes quite snappy
[18:09]	Techrights-sec	I was surprised by how fast the proxy worked
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	of course the energy provider never keps the callback promises
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	and was hard to reache
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	ven when you tell their machine it's an emergency
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	but I have confidence that now, unlike last time, there is actual a resolution
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	my last such outage (not fuse at home) was round 2005
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	so I am not accustomed to this situation
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	last such outage caused the pi to reboot and I ASSUME due to update (maybe NOT) it would 
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	not have wifi, would not mount external drive, iptables stopped working
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	IIRC (not sure) I all along knew we missed something in the latest clone (USB) and it was that 
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	tc-2 and tc-6 throttling things with permissions set in sudoers for gemini
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	but after 2 months I realise I can just leave on ipfs when I'm afk
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	and wifi is no longer needed really, we changed location  
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR	maybe we can move the gemini hosting to new techrights at some stage, at least it is RAIDed afaik (or guess)
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR	but then against gemini scales OK for hosting from home, so it would be a regression
[18:23]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	thanks for the advice btw, very supportive when I needed it
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	we'll cruise past this by tomorrow, the pi is not as reliable as a laptop
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	but it has its many other advantages
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	(the anger direacted is related to retiring early btw, but too personal for details)
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	I have some good news re market share, epo not as urgent atm
[18:25]	Techrights-sec	np
[18:27]	Techrights-sec	which market desktop or server?
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR	draft
[18:29]	Techrights-sec	Android is the main system there
[18:29]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	i will try multikasking a bit
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	to feel more productive
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	the power of being effective is related to stress management and omposure I think
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	yesterday rianne said she never ever saw me cry
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	and then described siatuations (hypothetical) and said, "would you cry?"
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	we have our 10th anniverary in sept. 
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR	maybe she'll submit the docs by then, there's no hard deadline
[18:39]	Techrights-sec	congratulations, in advance
[18:39]	Techrights-sec	it's supposedly an "aluminum/aluminium" anniversary?
[18:39]	Techrights-sec	or tin?
[18:39]	Techrights-sec	I hope the paperwork goes smoothly
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	birthday this month, but last one sucked due to covid restrictions and risks
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	btw, I might leave the pi perpetually hooked to external disk
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	it can back up everything to it overnight
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	the risk is system compromise, which unless I remove the wire is still a thing
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR	3tb drive
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	I am still trying to make things robuest to failure and catastrophe
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	do you have a full backup of tx-new btw, inc. git?
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	at least that annoying xfs issue is gone for good
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR	and afaik it led to no loss that I can detect
[18:42]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:42]	Techrights-sec	you could do an "overlay filesystem" making it read-only for the system partition but that'd be a lot of fuss to update in that two reboots would probably be
[18:42]	Techrights-sec	necessary each time
[18:42]	Techrights-sec	no I do not have a full backup but I do have some tarballs of Git
[18:43]	schestowitz-TR	ok, good for my ptsd (ish) after today's nuisance
[18:43]	schestowitz-TR	didn't take it very hard
[18:43]	schestowitz-TR	my main concern was catching up with all the tasks as eome pile up and tehre is downtimes
[18:46]	Techrights-sec	and I copied the database today but that's for the next phase not a backup
[18:46]	Techrights-sec	oh, i was too slow in commenting, but if another similar post is done, it 
[18:46]	Techrights-sec	would be useful to name OEM lock-in specifically as a problem inhibiting 
[18:46]	Techrights-sec	growth of GNU/Linux on the desktop/laptop.  It already dominates the other    
[18:46]	Techrights-sec	domains: server, embedded, mobile, and supercomputer
[18:52]	Techrights-sec	The posts are very convenient to read on Gemini
[18:52]	schestowitz-TR	it is like reading email, except my email client is very bloated
[18:53]	Techrights-sec	I have one account which has inflicted webmail on everybody and it is hell
[18:53]	Techrights-sec	webmail is an unpleasant toy
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	it is ok when you travel and use some public terminal
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	but not a replacment on one's nature workstation
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	It's better than nothing but that still does not mean much
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	Correct, it's not a replacement for a proper client on a real workstation
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	One of the reasons so many now hate e-mail is that they only experience it as
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	either webmail or via phone.  The other is that Bill's armada of botnets 
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	spew spam 24/7, that's the technical side.  On the political side, politicians
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	decided ~ 20 years ago that spam was the way to go.  It was on the way out
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	until one key EU politician announced loudly that spam was "good for the   
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	economy", she tried to walk back the comments a week later but took no real
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	action to make good and the floodgates opened at that point
[18:56]	Techrights-sec	Spam is also probably a cover for a lot of covert breaches
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