●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 02, 2021 ●● ● Oct 02 [00:21] schestowitz-TR done lots of maintenance, housekeeping, backups. I hope for a better weekend than today... there was more to it than the network issues and it resulted in me falling behind a bit. At least I kept healthy and sober, had a mild migraine earlier. [00:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:53] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 02 [05:16] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:29] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 02 [07:02] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:52] Techrights-sec one of the RSS feeds is returning many randomish external links. [07:52] Techrights-sec the content is ok but it throws a wrench in the scraping heuristics. [07:52] Techrights-sec router maintenance ● Oct 02 [09:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:00] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:16] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:41] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:42] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:58] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [09:59] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 02 [10:03] Techrights-sec The RSS feed causing the trouble was https://climatenewsnetwork.net/feed/ [10:03] Techrights-sec It has apparently moved and been renamed https://www.theenergymix.com/feed/ [10:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://climatenewsnetwork.net/feed/ ) [10:03] Techrights-sec It has its own material as before, but it throws in random external [10:03] Techrights-sec links. I'm not sure what to do about those. [10:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.theenergymix.com/feed/ ) [10:03] Techrights-sec commit 7e612f3fad97b42e63697c1302eeb0f0f987f5aa [10:03] Techrights-sec partially addresses the problem but it is not worth crafting a new XPath [10:03] Techrights-sec for each site unless there is a high probability of a return visit in the futu^future [10:03] schestowitz-TR I forgot to reconnect, but then realised it was not connected. Because I was about to ask about exactly this -- that feed [10:04] schestowitz-TR my guess is, their site was languishing so they gave away readers to some allies of theirs [10:06] *activelow (~activelow@e7nhetqhefcbe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:07] schestowitz-TR I see the latest 3 changes now [10:17] Techrights-sec I can add more XPaths but the return on effort is only there if [10:17] Techrights-sec EnergyMix keeps pointing to the same sites. [10:18] schestowitz-TR I'm trying to assess how legit a site it is, it could be a front group of something/someone [10:18] schestowitz-TR Liked Spiked [10:19] Techrights-sec Yes,. Should it be removed? [10:19] schestowitz-TR if it's justa reposter, then no value to it [10:20] Techrights-sec Ok. I'll zap it. [10:20] schestowitz-TR in the past I regretted linking to some sites that wound up attacking us. TruthDig towards the end sort of defected and then collapsed. [10:24] Techrights-sec Ok. I'll zap it. [10:24] Techrights-sec $ git log -1 | sed -n '1p;$p' [10:24] Techrights-sec commit b168d975530f65aa6a5b6416f7ba4260fcc895d1 [10:24] Techrights-sec TheEnergyMix, formerly ClimateNewsNetwork may be questionable: removed [10:25] schestowitz-TR judging by style and posting volume, it's not a mere rebrand, it's different people whom we know nothing about. I did not know about this site until this morning. [10:25] Techrights-sec Speaking of attacks, various individuals known for attacking Julian [10:25] Techrights-sec Assange have failed to make public retractions of earlier lies. Not even [10:25] Techrights-sec small poorly worded apologies have been made. [10:26] schestowitz "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." Richard Stallman [10:26] schestowitz-TR some of those same people incited RMS against Assange at some point [10:27] Techrights-sec I don't think it turned up until today. [10:27] Techrights-sec The script does not keep error logs though, so it may have been yesterday, [10:27] Techrights-sec on Oct 1st. [10:28] schestowitz-TR Generally speaking, there is no lack of SITES to follow. There is a lack of CREDIBLE and CONSISTENT ones that we can safely predict won't sell out. [10:29] Techrights-sec """ [10:29] Techrights-sec published by Energy Mix Productions Inc., a Canadian non-profit that promotes community awareness of, e [10:29] Techrights-sec ngagement in, and action on climate change, energy, and the shift off carbon. Were headquartered on unc [10:29] Techrights-sec eded Algonquin Anishnaabe territory, also known as Ottawa. We respect the sovereignty of the many Indige [10:29] Techrights-sec nous peoples and communities on whose land our work takes place. [10:29] Techrights-sec """ [10:29] Techrights-sec Unfortunately very true. [10:29] schestowitz-TR the name of the site could be suggestive of secret ownership by a firm that sells "altrernative" "renweable" "green" "sustainable" "ethical" energy [10:31] Techrights-sec https://www.theenergymix.com/partners/ [10:31] Techrights-sec Yes these things are difficult to investigate any more. Records used ot be [10:31] Techrights-sec more readily available. [10:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.theenergymix.com/partners/ ) [10:31] schestowitz-TR somtimes I check IRS. CommonDreams still seems clean to me. BTW, I am about to publish a video about OSI. [10:32] Techrights-sec The OSI used to be good but ... [10:33] schestowitz-TR want to check my draft and enhance? [10:34] schestowitz https://www.theenergymix.com/2021/09/30/bc-hydro-announces-190-million-to-shift-buildings-vehicles-off-natural-gas/ [10:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.theenergymix.com/2021/09/30/bc-hydro-announces-190-million-to-shift-buildings-vehicles-off-natural-gas/ ) [10:34] schestowitz-TR almost like an ad [10:36] schestowitz I've just identified a couple more 'suspect' ones and removed them [10:36] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] Techrights-sec Is the draft in the queue? [10:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] schestowitz-TR draft added, I've closed the tab to avoid conflicts [10:43] schestowitz-TR re vaccines, I am assessing for myself efficacy, as does my brother. I'm not jumping the line for something made fo fast and if the recipes change, then they have to go through approval all over again (and likely in a hurry) [10:43] schestowitz-TR it's a big market, maybe trillions for 10 years, so I can see why they rush to market [10:45] Techrights-sec Whoever is first to market gains a temporary defacto monopoly. [10:45] Techrights-sec ack [10:45] Techrights-sec be sure to push to Git [10:45] Techrights-sec if relevant [10:45] Techrights-sec ok [10:45] Techrights-sec It might be important to mention the pre-corporate origins of OSI [10:45] Techrights-sec A little clarification about who Stefano is would be good. [10:45] Techrights-sec A line about OSI's traditional and current and expected roles woud help. 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