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schestowitz-TR"Dr. Roy Schestowitz is the #1 Microsoft hater." http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.htmlApr 03 04:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Microsoft rightly withdrew support for ACT | The App(le) Association (which it once created) -- why are Verizon, Intel, AT&T, Verisign still behind advocacy against 99.9% of app developers?Apr 03 04:02
Techrights-secOr maybe just the last man standing after all the others have gotten bought outApr 03 04:02
Techrights-seceither directly or indirectly by their decades long repuation laundering scheme.Apr 03 04:02
schestowitz-TRThe police is the #1 crime haterApr 03 04:04
schestowitz-TRhate is not healthyApr 03 04:07
schestowitz-TRno doubt about thatApr 03 04:07
schestowitz-TRbut crime is even more unhealthyApr 03 04:07
schestowitz-TRnot just for minds, but for the functioning of a society based upon rules and sensibilitiesApr 03 04:07
Techrights-sec"hater" is what they='ve been able to frame all criticism of their crimes asApr 03 04:09
Techrights-secor the functioning of a naton;  many nations have had what amount to rovingApr 03 04:09
Techrights-secteams of sabateurs spreading across their territories and undermining theApr 03 04:09
Techrights-sectechnical infrastructure.Apr 03 04:09
schestowitz-TRright, I am not too worried because at the end people see things for what they areApr 03 04:09
schestowitz-TRit's hard to perpetually fool people with all sorts of identity cardsApr 03 04:09
schestowitz-TRand PR stuntsApr 03 04:09
schestowitz-TRwe just need to keep cooll and keep at itApr 03 04:09
Techrights-secMaybe, but so far M$ has been able to shift blame on all things including theApr 03 04:10
Techrights-secinduced vulnerability oto cyberattacks.Apr 03 04:10
Techrights-secYes persistence is a key here.Apr 03 04:10
Techrights-secBut it's not just the M$ people and M$ products which are deadly for nations,Apr 03 04:10
Techrights-secit is more so the M$ way of thinking.  Who the F would think it's ok to designApr 03 04:10
Techrights-seccars where remote attackers can turn off the brakes and floor the accelerator,Apr 03 04:10
Techrights-secamong other things.Apr 03 04:10
schestowitz-TRto diagress a little,Apr 03 04:12
schestowitz-TRfigos (now matey) thinks I am being too softApr 03 04:12
schestowitz-TRand then blasts me if I insinuate he sometimes goes too farApr 03 04:12
schestowitz-TRlike attacking people who are barely even the main or the woprst actorsApr 03 04:12
schestowitz-TRI think that it's important not to feed the crowd or the slantApr 03 04:12
schestowitz-TRthat calls us angry or unreasonableApr 03 04:12
Techrights-secIt is important to be aware that M$ does what it can over the years to sow   Apr 03 04:13
Techrights-secstrife through as many communities as it can.Apr 03 04:13
Techrights-secM$ encourages name callingApr 03 04:13
schestowitz-TR[03:04] <techrights-news> Decades-long Microsoft propagandist Paul Thurrott covering up for Microsoft back doors and other inherApr 03 04:14
schestowitz-TRently security issues https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/265150/google-claims-microsoft-makes-governments-less-secureApr 03 04:14
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Techrights-secThey always have their shills covering up and distracting from the real problemsApr 03 04:15
Techrights-secand their real causes.Apr 03 04:15
Techrights-secNote the complete silence from the WhiteHouse on the matter despite making allApr 03 04:15
Techrights-seckinds of noise otherwise about cyberattacks.Apr 03 04:15
Techrights-secand cyberdefense.Apr 03 04:15
schestowitz-TRit is probably even harder to take on misinformation from "Big Oil"Apr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRI think they might have eben bigger cloutApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRbut that's not to belittle what we doApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRin fact, there are things I heardx 2 days ago that suggest shithubApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRis reeling in pain and trying to silence criticsApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRusing laawsuits and settlementsApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRthey already are in disarrayApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRbut they keep silent and calmApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRto prevent panicApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRI also think that fostering a culture of whistleblowers is goodApr 03 04:19
schestowitz-TRso we have more mitchel lewisesApr 03 04:19
Techrights-secM$ products are probably strategically far more dangerous than Nordstream2Apr 03 04:21
Techrights-secthe disinformation tactics used by M$ are like those used by tobacco and oilApr 03 04:21
Techrights-secYes, there need to be more but ost of all the courts need to neutralize theApr 03 04:21
Techrights-secnon-disparagement clauses almost certainly piggybacked onto $ severanceApr 03 04:21
Techrights-secpackages and even regular employment contracts.  That's on top of the cult-likeApr 03 04:21
Techrights-secloyalty prerequisite for initial employment there,Apr 03 04:21
schestowitz-TRthe NSA has just caught another insider/contractorApr 03 04:22
schestowitz-TRI fiirmly believe that one real risk is,Apr 03 04:22
schestowitz-TR1) people whose leaks have no real outcome/impactApr 03 04:22
schestowitz-TR2) people who get caught and accomplish nothingApr 03 04:22
schestowitz-TRas that discourages future attemptsApr 03 04:22
Techrights-sec#1 is the worst; the country just shrugs and turns back to twitter or facebookApr 03 04:24
Techrights-secThere are a lot of naive people who think that "getting things out in the open"Apr 03 04:24
Techrights-secwill change things.  Nothing changes as the public (in the US and soon elsewhere) has become too uneducated to make informed decApr 03 04:24
Techrights-secisions even if they were notApr 03 04:24
Techrights-sec100% absorbed in a combination of treading water at work and clicking mindlesslyApr 03 04:24
Techrights-secthrough social control media.  The latter is about manipulation and unlike whatApr 03 04:24
Techrights-secsome politicians and former politicians may wish to believe is not in any wayApr 03 04:24
Techrights-secan unfiltered or even reliable source; Hell it's not even a source of information.Apr 03 04:24
Techrights-secIt never was, never will be, never can be.Apr 03 04:24
schestowitz-TRlots of things I want to satApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TR*sayApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TR1) many women opened up wounds over what trump did to themApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRit changed almost nothingApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TR2) remember jeff reif, who spoke of reno-bade Microsoft tax dodge?Apr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TR3) to many of these people, this is the end of their careerApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRnobody would employ themApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRall they have is a trail of old press reports  Apr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRand many of these articles go offline over timeApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TR4) the strategy used against these people is make them feel powerlessApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRand gaslight or ignore them if feasibleApr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRinducing self-shame or regret is a plusApr 03 04:28
Techrights-secThe remains of the press are part of the problem.  That comes from the corporateApr 03 04:28
Techrights-secownership which sets the agenda and priorities, and replaces the journalistsApr 03 04:28
Techrights-secwith stenographers.Apr 03 04:28
Techrights-secM$ runs like a mafia and exploits regional or local corruption but in harmonyApr 03 04:28
Techrights-secwith their national level attacks.Apr 03 04:28
schestowitz-TRfor the first time in over a month one blog mentioned EPO strikeApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRthe comments as in comment section can be considered goodApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRbut the media is in such an awful stateApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRthat in order to get info you need to find some rare blog posts and evenApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRthen the blog post is worthless, so you need to scroll downApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRto commentsApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRi'm sure "manufacturing consent" had some bits covering that aspectApr 03 04:31
schestowitz-TRof the propaganda modelApr 03 04:31
Techrights-secAFAIK none of the national sites picked up *any* coverage of the EPO strike.Apr 03 04:32
Techrights-secThey barely cover strikes within their own countries and then only mostly fromApr 03 04:32
Techrights-secthe perspectivce of the employer.Apr 03 04:32
Techrights-secThat and "Shock Doctrine".  Apr 03 04:32
schestowitz-TRI will do a long video later todayApr 03 04:32
schestowitz-TRin the meantime I need to look after the bumblebee we found yestersayApr 03 04:33
schestowitz-TRprobably his last day alive todayApr 03 04:33
schestowitz-TRwe nurture but not nourish it, it cannot fly anymore Apr 03 04:34
schestowitz-TRit's the first time we find an insect in such a state on the kitchen floorApr 03 04:34
schestowitz-TRand rianne loves beesApr 03 04:34
schestowitz-TRthis one is hugeApr 03 04:34
Techrights-secI'm not sure how to treat the solitary bees.  Maybe honeywater and reasonablyApr 03 04:36
Techrights-sectemperatures; they are not supposed to be out during the winter;Apr 03 04:36
schestowitz-TRmaybe the unusually low temps are at fault Apr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRit was snowing that morning or the one beforeApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRanyway, i told rianne it's a rare chane to get close to themApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRwithout the risk of getting stungApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRothrwise the only pets we have are fishApr 03 04:40
Techrights-secFish are calmingApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRthankfully we don't travel (for years), as that would requireApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRasking neighbours for helpApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRand the people who moved in next door feel more like squattersApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRthan residentsApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRit's like 5 south asian people sharing one homeApr 03 04:40
schestowitz-TRconverted the living room too into a bedroom  Apr 03 04:41
schestowitz-TRwith clothes hanging there to the front window Apr 03 04:41
Techrights-sec:/Apr 03 04:46
Techrights-secThe stereotype is 12 to an appartment all working illegallyApr 03 04:46
schestowitz-TRwe put a bid on that house, but it seemed it remained unsoldApr 03 04:47
schestowitz-TRand the owner put some rather 'unsavoury' tennants thereApr 03 04:47
schestowitz-TRcompensation with quantity for the lack of quality so to speakApr 03 04:47
schestowitz-TRmaybe 150 per head per monthApr 03 04:47
Techrights-secOne thing that has worsened recently is comanies and governments misusingApr 03 04:47
Techrights-sectwitter in place of official channelsApr 03 04:47
schestowitz-TRspeaking of twitterApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRit has not been a month since I leftApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRyesterday I checked anaalysticsApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRit shows that not there are 400-800 daily impressionsApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRthat's for nearly 1 milliuon tweetsApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRso on a daily basis maybe 1 in 2000 would be viewed or scrolled throuhgApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRit's not clear what twitter actually counts of howApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRso you can see the poor return on effortApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRonce you stop adding new things you see the lack of valueApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRof the older stuffApr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRthis inclues the visiblity of replies of mine to accounts of politicians, Apr 03 04:50
schestowitz-TRWikileaks, etc.Apr 03 04:50
Techrights-secackApr 03 04:51
Techrights-secso the archive is doing some good thenApr 03 04:51
schestowitz-TRbarely. those are small numbersa.Apr 03 04:52
schestowitz-TRmeanwhile joindiaspora is dead asnd they say it can take "months" before I can migrate allApr 03 04:52
schestowitz-TRthe data from it to another instance of diasporaApr 03 04:52
schestowitz-TReven just for preservation's sake (the URLs would remain broken regardless)Apr 03 04:52
schestowitz-TRat least with IRC it is static and remains online for decadesApr 03 04:52
schestowitz-TRinc. the IRC logs I published 14 years agoApr 03 04:52
Techrights-secsocial control media is too valuable to large corporations and the politiciansApr 03 04:53
Techrights-secthey own for it to be left to die, though it should be Apr 03 04:53
schestowitz-TRthis too shall passApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRit's just a matter of how much longer it has left to liveApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRAND what will be replacing itApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRI no longer think video is the next social control mediaApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRseeing what happened to gulagtube and vimeoApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRthey waited and waitedApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRand netflix doubled the priceApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRi think spitify manager to swing into profitsApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRbut the effect of the recent exodus remains to be seenApr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRthey tried to enter the podcast "bizniz"Apr 03 04:55
schestowitz-TRand got burned by attracting cranksApr 03 04:55
Techrights-secthey appear to see video only as a vehicle for advertising and clicks, though  Apr 03 04:56
Techrights-secothers exploit for disinformation and propaganda tooApr 03 04:56
Techrights-secyes, cranks are common on video plaformsApr 03 04:56
schestowitz-TRpeople will still  be "online"Apr 03 04:57
schestowitz-TRbut I really don't know what they do "online"Apr 03 04:57
schestowitz-TRthey used to use RSS feeds a lot moreApr 03 04:57
schestowitz-TRRSS culture is still beinmg clobberedApr 03 04:58
schestowitz-TRGulag and social control media are among the culprits hereApr 03 04:58
schestowitz-TRGulag Noise is becoming more and more noiseApr 03 04:58
schestowitz-TRGIGOApr 03 04:58
Techrights-seconline means "apps" these days, which is just  mutilated browser going to Apr 03 04:58
Techrights-seca javascript laden page running an unsigned, unautenticated program on the    Apr 03 04:58
Techrights-secmachine via the browser;Apr 03 04:58
schestowitz-TRwell, that's too bad thenApr 03 04:59
schestowitz-TRbecause it's neither sustainable nor productiveApr 03 04:59
schestowitz-TRbut thena again they love their population powerlessApr 03 04:59
Techrights-secit has been kept afloat artificially so far Apr 03 05:00
schestowitz-TRjust like the webspam known as linux.comApr 03 05:01
schestowitz-TRwith some shadowy "editor" (perlow now, used to be spamnil for a year)Apr 03 05:01
schestowitz-TRI wait to see more recent info on LF Apr 03 05:01
schestowitz-TResp. post-lockdownsApr 03 05:01
schestowitz-TRwhen they lost a ton of "events" moneyApr 03 05:01
Techrights-secmany key domains have been ruined that wayApr 03 05:01
schestowitz-TR[05:03] <techrights-news> Exploring the use of tech-based tools in India to curb dissent during protests - Global Voices ⚓ https://globalvoices.org/2022/04/01/exploring-the-use-of-tech-based-tools-in-india-to-curb-dissent-during-protests/ ䷉ Source: globalvoicesApr 03 05:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://globalvoices.org/2022/04/01/exploring-the-use-of-tech-based-tools-in-india-to-curb-dissent-during-protests/ )Apr 03 05:03
Techrights-secthe priorities aren't there, obviousy, otherwise tose sites could be great Apr 03 05:03
Techrights-secackApr 03 05:03
schestowitz-TRthere is a chainApr 03 05:06
schestowitz-TRoligarchs > banks > corporations > executives > workers > "plebs"Apr 03 05:06
schestowitz-TRwhen the press is a corporationApr 03 05:06
schestowitz-TRit then becomes inevitable that it'll oinly be operaableApr 03 05:06
schestowitz-TRas long as that enjoys consent from the "angels" [sic]Apr 03 05:06
Techrights-sechiearchyApr 03 05:07
Techrights-secthat is also about control and not about launching a successful businessApr 03 05:07
schestowitz-TRbiden is increasing the bailo^H^Hdefence budgetApr 03 05:08
schestowitz-TRbecause the economy is doing so wellApr 03 05:08
Techrights-secOnce Russia drops M$ the rest of the world will still be using it, so thatApr 03 05:09
Techrights-secwill be the worst of all possible outcomes for Biden due to the unsuitabilityApr 03 05:09
Techrights-secof M$ for services and ifnrastructure\Apr 03 05:09
schestowitz-TRa third wave of cancel RMS (epstein, then isms) could be formed around russophobic rhetoricApr 03 05:11
schestowitz-TRand the notion of loyalty to the hegemonyApr 03 05:11
schestowitz-TRbut that's just speculation at this stageApr 03 05:11
Techrights-secackApr 03 05:11
schestowitz-TR[05:13] <techrights-news> Diversity is now "the formerly incarcerated" https://buffalonews.com/news/local/diversity-focused-techApr 03 05:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://buffalonews.com/news/local/diversity-focused-tech/ )Apr 03 05:14
schestowitz-TRnology-training-firm-bitwise-coming-to-buffalo/article_18b53c78-aeae-11ec-af1a-3fc233af51b0.htmlApr 03 05:14
schestowitz-TR[05:13] <techrights-news> Maybe next year "diversity" will mean "includes criminals" (like Microsoft)Apr 03 05:14
Techrights-secackApr 03 05:15
Techrights-secwith quotas and allApr 03 05:15
Techrights-sechowever they remain unlikely to be prosecuted, see the latest whistleblower fromApr 03 05:15
Techrights-secM$,  The US government has chosen to do nothing.  Apr 03 05:15
schestowitz-TRlol, quotas... shit, we only employ 90% who did not commit crime, we need to lower that to 80%Apr 03 05:15
schestowitz-TR"our diversity officere has issued a damning report showing that all of ourApr 03 05:17
schestowitz-TRstaff is law-abiding. This is not acceptable."Apr 03 05:17
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schestowitzRe: Microsoft no longer supports ACTApr 03 09:22
schestowitz> http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.htmlApr 03 09:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Microsoft rightly withdrew support for ACT | The App(le) Association (which it once created) -- why are Verizon, Intel, AT&T, Verisign still behind advocacy against 99.9% of app developers?Apr 03 09:22
schestowitz> <http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/04/microsoft-rightly-withdrew-support-for.html>Apr 03 09:22
schestowitzThanks, I saw that this morning.Apr 03 09:22
Techrights-secgemini-cron-updated.sh keeps leaving a lockfile behind, not sure why but it isApr 03 10:50
Techrights-secproblemApr 03 10:50
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schestowitz-TRneed to think of new publication strategy for patent matters with emphasis on Eirope and on EPOApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRI do not know oneApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRthe weekly summarises become a tad repetitiveApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRand it goes like this:Apr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TR2010 and prior: lots of good journalism on the subjectApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRadded to daily links or forming the basis for original Techrights toriesApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRincidentally lots of it from EFF (!)Apr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRnot anymore\Apr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRthen I did lots of rebutting in social control mediaApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRwhen it still mattersApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRlast year I started doing likes of [Ed:] in daily linksApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRthe downside was, w were linking and giving traffic to lots of liesApr 03 13:55
schestowitz-TRso this year it was videos Apr 03 13:56
Techrights-secProbably best /not/ to link to crap.Apr 03 13:56
Techrights-secNo matter how tempting it is to try to deride it, too many people will get theApr 03 13:56
Techrights-secwrong interpretation of the crap.Apr 03 13:56
schestowitz-TRwe need to think of a strategyApr 03 13:57
schestowitz-TRthe upside of videos is, no URL is visible for people to find the lieApr 03 13:57
schestowitz-TRand I can focus on how stupid those things areApr 03 13:57
schestowitz-TRwithout repeating the lies on the screenApr 03 13:57
schestowitz-TRI'm at a lossApr 03 13:57
schestowitz-TRI don't know how to effectivel;y respond anymoreApr 03 13:58
schestowitz-TRzoobab is still wasting a lot of time "retweeting" thingsApr 03 13:58
schestowitz-TReven teh flasehoodsApr 03 13:58
schestowitz-TRand then he gets depressed by themApr 03 13:58
schestowitz-TRdemoralisedApr 03 13:58
Techrights-secreaching out by other TR members to their respective national news services,Apr 03 14:00
Techrights-secmight help a tiny amount but the news "services" seem fooled by social controlApr 03 14:00
Techrights-secmedia instead and might be impervious to authentic sources soonApr 03 14:00
Techrights-secretweeting is a waste of time; Apr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRI think today's long video will be the last in this seriesApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRwe need to alter approach Apr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRat the very least because we've very well established the point thatApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TR1) gulag noise sucks and Apr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TR2) there's virtually NO coverage on these issuesApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRtoday I saw one good article in NatureApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRIt was about COVID patent waiverApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRat least it was correctytly framedApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRbut these sorts of articles are rareApr 03 14:00
schestowitz-TRif you can come up with an effective strategt, it would help much much moreApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRthan me hitting the wallApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRthere is not much material to go byApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRwith libreplanet I can use opther people's well-research presentationApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRand give them some exposureApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRwith patents it's harderApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRas most patent events are "ciercle-jerks"Apr 03 14:02
Techrights-secthe patent  "events" I have seen are based fully on lies and untruths, Apr 03 14:02
Techrights-secthat is an real problem, they receive no penalty for lying, rather are Apr 03 14:02
Techrights-secrewarded financially for itApr 03 14:02
schestowitz-TRso how do we respond?Apr 03 14:04
schestowitz-TRinciudentally, if you type mtechrights into gulag search it tries to complete with upcApr 03 14:04
schestowitz-TRso clearly some people look for upc info and narrow it down by domain/;sourceApr 03 14:04
Techrights-secTR shows up rather well in some areas,  Wikipedia is a place which needsApr 03 14:04
Techrights-secrepair howeverApr 03 14:04
schestowitz-TRwikipedia can go f* itselfApr 03 14:06
schestowitz-TRI won't spend a minute trying to fix somethng which is well brokenApr 03 14:06
schestowitz-TRand is, by its very own nature, easy toi re-=breakApr 03 14:06
schestowitz-TResp. by those with the financial meansApr 03 14:06
schestowitz-TRlike GAFAM-OSIApr 03 14:06
Techrights-secLoss of EFF, OSI, and LF among others are a sore blow to software freedomApr 03 14:07
Techrights-secIt'd be worlds better if even one of those were pulling their own weight.Apr 03 14:07
schestowitz-TRI think we need to re-evaluate the way we respond to those threatsApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRsocial control media is "good riddance"Apr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRit was not effective and makkjes it very easy to take things outApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRof contextApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRtheir advanbtage is that they have money and mouthsApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRmany liars and budget to lob it over into gulag newsApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRthrough lexology, mondaq etc. Apr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRtheir bribed media hides the very existence of an epo unionApr 03 14:10
schestowitz-TRit is deliberate Apr 03 14:10
Techrights-secunfortunatelyApr 03 14:14
schestowitz-TRmaybe daily videos that are shorter?Apr 03 14:15
schestowitz-TRteh downside is that clustering of related topics is harder this wayApr 03 14:15
schestowitz-TRwhich means itr becomes a little less organsedApr 03 14:15
Techrights-secshorter videos might help a lotApr 03 15:11
schestowitz-TRok, today's will be the last of ikts kidApr 03 15:12
schestowitz-TRkindApr 03 15:12
schestowitz-TRI will wrap things up and ponder how else to approach this Apr 03 15:12
schestowitz-TRI think you will like the video I added from libreplanetApr 03 15:35
schestowitz-TRit is 5 minutes longApr 03 15:35
schestowitz-TRI've also just deposited my draft, a first and crude one, if you want to have a lookApr 03 15:35
Techrights-secackApr 03 15:55
Techrights-seclooked at the backup files: 98GB of video on TR Apr 03 15:55
Techrights-secMaybe it would be appropriate for the members of SUEPO to take a serious lookApr 03 15:55
Techrights-secat the relevant Wikipedia entries?Apr 03 15:55
schestowitz-TRI think it is morally wrong to send people to 'correct' wikipediaApr 03 15:56
schestowitz-TRthe way OSI tried to doApr 03 15:56
schestowitz-TRand I am sure they are aware of the issues and the union can do that on its Apr 03 15:56
schestowitz-TRownApr 03 15:57
schestowitz-TRthey can wrsele in the mud with the EPO's PR pigsApr 03 15:57
Techrights-secWikipedia is all about, and only about, edit wars most unfortunately.  Apr 03 15:57
Techrights-secIt would be wrong, maybe, to publish an article, but since you are correspondingApr 03 15:57
Techrights-secwith people there, you night bring the situation to their attention and letApr 03 15:57
Techrights-secthem decide if or how to deal with it.  Apr 03 15:57
schestowitz-TRI think it would be inappropriate for meApr 03 15:58
schestowitz-TRas that would reinforce what I complain aboutApr 03 15:58
schestowitz-TRlike Microsoft bribing 'experts' to 'correct' wikipediaApr 03 15:58
schestowitz-TRThis talk is about Haven. For more information see Havens site at havenweb.org. http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/matthew-wise-oApr 03 16:11
schestowitz-TRn-haven/Apr 03 16:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Matthew Wise Explains Why Social Control Media is Bad and We Need to Revert Back to Private, Self-Hosted Blogging | TechrightsApr 03 16:11
schestowitz-TRThis can be good for sharing photos over openbsd tooApr 03 16:11
schestowitz-TRhas admin toolsApr 03 16:11
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Techrights-seccheckingApr 03 16:42
Techrights-secno text?Apr 03 16:42
schestowitz-TRthe original from FSF said even less than I didApr 03 16:42
Techrights-secackApr 03 16:51
Techrights-secexcellentApr 03 16:51
schestowitz-TRi have just confgured the new laptops for recordingApr 03 16:51
schestowitz-TRtwo camerasApr 03 16:51
schestowitz-TRand noisetorch helpingApr 03 16:51
schestowitz-TRthe passage of files between laptops is fastApr 03 16:51
Techrights-secDongarra's award was not featured prominently at all in the NY Times, not evenApr 03 17:22
Techrights-secin the relevant section.  They dodged around the licensings too.  The ACMApr 03 17:22
Techrights-secwriteup poiunts out prominently that it is an Open Source library.     Apr 03 17:22
schestowitz-TRi've just published the first video from the new machineApr 03 17:23
schestowitz-TRrecorded before noisetorch was addedApr 03 17:23
Techrights-secackApr 03 17:34
Techrights-seclots of hung cron jobs in the RPi.Apr 03 18:36
Techrights-sec$ ps -p $(pgrep -d , cron) -o pid,start,args | sort -k2,2r -k3,3n -k1,1Apr 03 18:36
schestowitz-TRI am trying to get FMApr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRinvolved in EPO scandal coverageApr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRafter he had contacted me we found some commonalitiesApr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRand also he can help against UPCApr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRbut maybe I'm too optimisticApr 03 19:32
Techrights-secI hope he can contribute to coverage, it is central to patents in EuropeApr 03 19:32
Techrights-secand UPC is a scam and a danger to software /users/ everywhere.Apr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRsoftware is justa  tiny portion of the many issuesApr 03 19:32
schestowitz-TRit's a bundle of wishlistsApr 03 19:32
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Techrights-secThe media has been allowed to misinform and distract the public by wronglyApr 03 19:53
Techrights-secportraying software patents (when they were covered at all) as a developer Apr 03 19:53
Techrights-secissue.  They are not.  They govern usage, thus has nothing to do with copyright,Apr 03 19:53
Techrights-secand affect /end users/.  Apr 03 19:53
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Techrights-secI focus myopically on the software :/Apr 03 19:59
schestowitz-TRdo you have something to say about "protestware"?Apr 03 20:01
schestowitz-TRI did a video, doing text nowApr 03 20:01
Techrights-secno, protestware is counterproductiveApr 03 20:07
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