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● May 03
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	Turns out Debian 10 puts /tmp under /
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	And so after putting some video backups in /tmp
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	root partition ran out of space
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	all I saw was unrelated error messages
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	before finding the culprit
[08:06]	schestowitz-TR	I am surprised it took me so long to find the culprit
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	I was focused on networking
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	as it caused barrier not to work
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	and then I could not save to remote places either
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	as if the ssh socket died
[08:07]	schestowitz-TR	but anyway, shit happens, lessons learned
[08:07]	Techrights-sec	:( that's not a good arrangment       #  Connection from unexpected host!   #
[08:07]	Techrights-sec	GNu/Linux distros are getting too much damage from Windows in the form of ###
[08:07]	Techrights-sec	bad ideas
[08:07]	Techrights-sec	full / is a too-common occurenc/  Filling /var/ is bad to because if it happens
[08:07]	Techrights-sec	when key files are being written, they go bad and AFAIK cannot be repaired
[08:10]	schestowitz-TR	no data (that I know of) done in this case
[08:10]	schestowitz-TR	just a waste of time
[08:10]	schestowitz-TR	most important things, and files, are in ~
[08:10]	schestowitz-TR	looking back, it would have been nice if I received disk space warnings of some kind
[08:10]	schestowitz-TR	either before or after it happened
[08:12]	Techrights-sec	i've taken to lookin at outpuf from df -Ph for / and other partitions here on
[08:12]	Techrights-sec	occasion
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	side upside is, I got to check all sorts of other systems for their integrity
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	I did not find anything broken, but could have. All in all I spent maybe half an hour.
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	Checking a lot of things. Now I can move on, with the lesson learned.       #
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	I'm meant to periodically delete those mp4 files from /tmp but I got lazy as that's no longer
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	a critical machine for my data, just some operational stuff
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	it seems like those SSDs "expire" after a number of read/writes and then they consider themselves
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	not fit/suitable anymore
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	there was an article I saw yesterday from a friend that's related to lifetime of SSDs
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	I finally understood, a few months back, what the % thing is, like 119%
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	it basically goes up over time
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	like a hea;lth quotient
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	it also loogs, in the firmware, number of reboots
[08:17]	schestowitz-TR	so I can estimate how many times the previous owner reboots
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	smartmonctl ought to show some wear information, too
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	if you underprovision the SSD a little, it will last longer
[08:18]	Techrights-sec	(or so I have read)
[08:19]	schestowitz-TR	the pi is at 51% (one of the many things I tested this morning), I last backed it up a few days ago
[08:19]	schestowitz-TR	rianne uses it as a file server too (for her text files, over ssh or fish:// in KDE)
[08:19]	schestowitz-TR	as I said, a few sanity checks here and there cannot hurt
[08:19]	schestowitz-TR	afaik, no damage got done, just some 'lost' time due to weird symptoms
[08:27]	schestowitz-TR	oh, in hindsight I can sum up all the errors I saw as, /tmp has no space left
[08:27]	schestowitz-TR	but that's part fo root
[08:27]	schestowitz-TR	in theory I could parttiion debian to give //tmp its own dir
[08:27]	schestowitz-TR	writing a lot to /tmp might be OK, but not 10gb
[08:32]	Techrights-sec	ack
[08:32]	Techrights-sec	I'm not sure what hte recommended best practice is for such large files
[08:32]	Techrights-sec	One such file in the wrong partition can cause massive trouble
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	these files are several times more massive when they come from obs on 'bubi' (elephant name)
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	which is why it filled up so fast without me nolticing
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	though it does show me the total size on the screen
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	each time I make a video
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	I just ignored it
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	it was showing up for a reason
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	I could configure it to wipe out those files when a certain thereshold is exceeded
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	you can see preview.sh
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	this issue could be a lot more catastrophic
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	and so far I've not seen any real damage
[08:38]	Techrights-sec	find can do conditinoal deletions based on age and size
[08:43]	Techrights-sec	air gap is best
[08:43]	Techrights-sec	if the drive is connected, it is ony a copy and not an actual backup
[08:43]	Techrights-sec	I'd say that distinction applies for the durration of the time the drive
[08:43]	Techrights-sec	is plugged in
[08:43]	Techrights-sec	to the system where it is accessible from the system with the original data
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	yes, a one liner might do
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	if  retire that machine this year, I might want to think of a different approach
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	my backup drives are disconnected by default
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	air-gapped to to speak
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	but now the pi is always connected to one
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	a better approach would send the mp4s (disposables) to a large external drive
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	for my laptops I never back up root
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	not enough of value in there
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	and those are not servers
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	so fast recovery less of an isue
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	curiously enough, it turns out any program which relies a lot on /tmp 
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	it possibly more flaky that one that uses userspace but that depends on which one
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	runs out of space or goes R-O 
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	nobody's backups are perfect, but I think mine are OK
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	for the sites I rely too much on RAID and on you 
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	we got some traffic yesterday until Microsoft employees ganged up and censored it
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	details in IRC logs
● May 03
[09:01]	Techrights-sec	checking
[09:01]	Techrights-sec	HN is controlled if not outright owned by microsofters
[09:01]	Techrights-sec	"[flagged] Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo (2020) (techrights.org)"
[09:01]	Techrights-sec	lots of M$ drivel and shills
[09:01]	Techrights-sec	in the comments there
[09:02]	schestowitz-TR	I did not even bother reading those
[09:03]	schestowitz-TR	but you can see hints 
[09:03]	schestowitz-TR	we really should never rely on censored medium like this
[09:03]	schestowitz-TR	sites are better off isolation from the 'Controlled Web'
[09:03]	schestowitz-TR	the 'echo chamber' of the business owners
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	in some threads nearly all the comments are from shills, that is is one example
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	of many there
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	What's sad is that average social control media users seem to not see the
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	shilling for what it is and treat the shilling like grassroots
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	the HN thread had only a couple legitimate comments the rest from shills
[09:03]	Techrights-sec	"community manager"
[09:04]	schestowitz-TR	I did see my first name mentioned sometwhere
[09:04]	schestowitz-TR	and thought, hang on a sec
[09:04]	schestowitz-TR	I did not even write this
[09:04]	schestowitz-TR	it's just a factual list of items 
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	yes they went straight to name calling and casteing apsersions like they
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	do to RMS
[09:05]	Techrights-sec	if you state facts, they have no counter except to resort to ad hominem
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	it is good when you get used to it
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	because you don't give a shit
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	and just carry on
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	the words they use and the tactics can deter other people from further public participation
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	that never worked on me, except maybe (briefly) in 2005 or 2006
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	HN also seems designed to allow brigading by shills of all stripes, but
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	especially microsofters
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	the idea is not to deter you but to get people to stop reading
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	like the long campaign against RMS which ramped up > 15 years ago
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	As long as HN moderators are shills it is hard to set things straight there 
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	and there is no way to correct from within their site, so yes, just ignore
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	them 
[09:10]	Techrights-sec	and carry on
[09:11]	schestowitz-TR	same or similar tactics used against fsfe and debian critics
[09:11]	schestowitz-TR	there were several attempts to take down my twitter account last year
[09:11]	schestowitz-TR	which almost succeeded
[09:11]	schestowitz-TR	that can lead to an escalation of tone or tactics, hence 
[09:11]	schestowitz-TR	self-fulfilling prophecy like a cycle of violence
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	yep
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	speaking of violence, with the war in Europe escallating so rapidly,
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	the repercussions for allowing microsofters to go unaddressedd will  
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	be rubbed in peoole's faces ,but the question is whether the individual
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	nation states have waited too long and allowed too many saboteurs to spread
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	out and get established and dug in, having replaced IT people around the
[09:18]	Techrights-sec	continent with their own hostile flunkies
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	one example we currently write about is SaM
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	in videos I keep reminding people SaM works for Microsoft
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	for USA
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	not for belarus
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	and not for EPO for that matter
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	a lot of people don't know the VAR/reseller/MSP mindset and business model
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	they're partly salespeople
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	even lobbyists
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	they might employ some coders
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	but most of the code just comes as binaries from another nation
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	and thye pocket money for the disruption they cause
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	like outsisourcing SUPER-IMPORTANT EPO data to Microsoft
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	EU turns a blind eye, partly because it too is culpable
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	now they have a new word for outsourcing: transformation
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	or "clown"
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	among others
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	it's the "smart" thing to do
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	Why do you NOT send your data to the clown YET?
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	Why are you still using server and keep the data local?
[09:21]	schestowitz-TR	what if...
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[10:48]	qa2	who's SaM?
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	it's a firm in minsk
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	see: SaM Solutions, the EPOs outsourcing partner, is subjected to rules of the dictator, not just the dictator Campinos who pretends to have sanctioned Belarus http://techrights.org/2022/05/03/sam-solutions-lukashenko/
[10:52]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | SaM Solutions Controlled and Still Regulated by Lukashenkos Regime | Techrights
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	Techrights-sec: 
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	correct me if IU am off my roicker
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	SSD ensures
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	1) less torage capacity, henmce more clown
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	2) shorter lifetime for storage devices, hence more sale
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	is this
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	a) true?
[10:52]	qa2	ok, thanks!
[10:52]	schestowitz-TR	b) intentional?
[10:53]	schestowitz-TR	qa2: we do a series about it
[10:53]	schestowitz-TR	so far about 30 posts inc. memes and videos
[10:56]	schestowitz	x https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/chomsky-calls-trump-the-one-western-statesman-who-laid-out-sensible-plan-for-addressing-russia-ukraine-crisis/
[10:56]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mediaite.com | Noam Chomsky: Donald Trump Has 'Sensible' Plan for Russia
[10:56]	schestowitz	# :( chomsky is done and has lost the plot, threatening to undo his years of good work
[10:57]	schestowitz-TR	chomsky condemned trump countless times, calling him the biggest threat. it would be interesting to hear what he said and in what context
[10:57]	schestowitz-TR	I did not click mediaite because I do not trust the site
[10:58]	schestowitz-TR	maybe there is more context with a "but" in it
[10:58]	schestowitz-TR	but either way, chomsky is no apologist of Trump
[10:58]	schestowitz	# tips@dailymail.com  ? for EPO scandal coverage?
[10:59]	schestowitz-TR	haha, IF they covered it, that would only DISCREDIT the reporting :-
[10:59]	schestowitz-TR	and make it seems like loons and anti-EU people condemn EPO crimes
● May 03
[11:00]	schestowitz	x https://christine.website/blog/nix-flakes-4-wsl-2022-05-01
[11:00]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-christine.website | Nix Flakes on WSL - Xe
[11:00]	schestowitz	# she has sold out, apparently
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[11:10]	schestowitz	https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=165154330204355&w=2
[11:10]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-marc.info | 'Improvements to 'talk'' - MARC
[11:10]	schestowitz	"
[11:10]	schestowitz	Hello,
[11:10]	schestowitz	I have created a patch for the 'talk' program that does the following:
[11:10]	schestowitz	- Add the -t option for logging sessions to a transcript file
[11:10]	schestowitz	"
[11:11]	schestowitz	x https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/24600-sas-microsoft-to-build-deep-technology-integrations-for-advanced-health-analytics
[11:11]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thefastmode.com | SAS, Microsoft to Build Deep Technology Integrations for Advanced Health Analytics
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[12:16]	Techrights-sec	what is the context for 1) and 2) there?
[12:16]	Techrights-sec	Just guessing, I would say that oboard storage capacities are lowered           
[12:16]	Techrights-sec	intentionally to try to push fools into hosted storage, aka "cloud", for
[12:16]	Techrights-sec	personal files
[12:22]	Techrights-sec	1) generally tru
[12:22]	Techrights-sec	2) quite true, especially if left unpowered
[12:22]	Techrights-sec	b) probably both accidental and intentional, but there is little incentive
[12:22]	Techrights-sec	for them to fix the problem so it is as good as intentional
[12:24]	Techrights-sec	https://www.ionos.com/digitalguide/server/security/ssd-life-span/
[12:24]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSD life span: How long does an SSD last? Are there any signs of failure? - IONOS
[12:24]	schestowitz-TR	"Announced almost 4 years ago, Nimbus Data set out to produce and sell a Solid State Drive (SSD) that was 100 Terabytes (TB) in size. It is called the ExaDrive." https://koutoupis.com/2022/05/02/nimbus-and-the-forever-lasting-ssd-is-it-cost-effective/
[12:24]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-koutoupis.com | Nimbus and the Forever Lasting SSD: Is it cost effective? Random [Tech] Stuff
[12:26]	Techrights-sec	https://www.extremetech.com/computing/205382-ssds-can-lose-data-in-as-little-as-7-days-without-power
[12:26]	Techrights-sec	"cloud" isn't any better since there have been quite a few published incidents
[12:26]	Techrights-sec	of losing data, but hard to find hard data on just how frequently that happens
[12:26]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-SSDs can lose data in as little as 7 days without power - ExtremeTech
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	data loss comes in many forms
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	-service shutdown
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	fees (vimeo)
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	new copouts
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	etc etc.
[12:27]	schestowitz-TR	the point is, you will never be ion true control of the data
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[12:28]	Techrights-sec	bits flipping can destroy a whole file or tarball or perhaps even an encrypted 
[12:28]	Techrights-sec	partition
[12:32]	Techrights-sec	otr: here they didn't even try nor did they send an e-mail nor an sms
[12:32]	Techrights-sec	otr: I had to find out by checking the online tracking service
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	I have parts 12 and 13 ready (re belarus)
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	I put them in /tmp
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	14 will probably be last, and mostly a summary
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	I am currently experimenting with a new time management approach
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	it started poorly due to / (root) silently running out of space, but pace
[12:41]	schestowitz-TR	has been OK since
[12:44]	schestowitz-TR	EPO is gradually being privatised and quqlity of work/workers/service lowered
[12:44]	schestowitz-TR	of course part of that is just lying about |customer experience| etc.
[12:47]	Techrights-sec	Yes, the privatisation scam is hitting the EPO, soon they will move to
[12:47]	Techrights-sec	financialization and patents won't even be a charade / fascade, they 
[12:47]	Techrights-sec	will simply spend all their time and money "investing" in stocks
[12:47]	Techrights-sec	all the while declaring themselves a patent office
[12:48]	Techrights-sec	https://scholarworks.umass.edu/sociol_faculty_pubs/6/
[12:48]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-scholarworks.umass.edu | "Beware Financialization, Attractive and Dangerous, but Mostly Dangerou" by Donald Tomaskovic-Devey
● May 03
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	"Algospeak is practiced by all types of social media users" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/tracking-exposed-demanding-gods-explain-themselves | Source: EFF
[13:10]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Tracking Exposed: Demanding That the Gods Explain Themselves | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[13:11]	schestowitz-TR	so there is already a name for it
[13:11]	schestowitz-TR	this is what it talked about the other day
[13:11]	schestowitz-TR	I stopped using this "dialect" when I quit ALL social control media
[13:11]	schestowitz-TR	I'm beter off for it
[13:11]	schestowitz-TR	self-censorship and 'SEO' isn't for IRC
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	behaivor will change any time there is reward and punishment for choices
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	in this caise it is choice of words, phrases, and even whole topics
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	yes, the result is self-censorship.
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	Ah, good, it is a post by Cory.
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	I hope the others there start to listen to him or at least read his posts and
[13:12]	Techrights-sec	take to heart the core messages
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR	I reckon sooner or later you will be banned from twitter for using terms like 
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR	"genderphobia" or anything that represents any counterargument
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR	to factors leveraged to destabilise society and take heat off the oligarchy
[13:17]	schestowitz-TR	btw, cory still works for elon musk
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	so does fsf
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	I never understood why they came there in the first place
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	maybe the idea of johns
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	and it took them like a year to point ut twitter now REQUIRES proprietary software
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	(JS)
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	Techrihgts had written about this problem several times by then
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	and IIRC, that was the point I had already gone "write-only"
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	what we saw in 2019 is fsf and eff moving into the realms of algospeak
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	saying anything at all about epstein is "supporting pedophilia"
[13:22]	schestowitz-TR	meeting epstein himself in secret, even in prison, is "peace nobel prize"
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[13:40]	Techrights-sec	:/
[13:40]	Techrights-sec	also when twitter when to a non-chronological timeline, the operant conditioning
[13:40]	Techrights-sec	really began in earnest
[13:40]	Techrights-sec	as people modify their speech, written at first then IRL following, to please
[13:40]	Techrights-sec	the black box 
[13:40]	schestowitz-TR	DENY box 
[13:40]	schestowitz-TR	more words you cannot say
[13:40]	schestowitz-TR	they will remove those words and push to main
[13:41]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> If you want free speech, quit Twitter and run your site https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/02/elon-musks-twitter-business-model-idea-ignore-free-speech-rights-and-try-to-the-charge-media-to-quote-tweets/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:41]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Elon Musks Twitter Business Model Idea: Ignore Free Speech Rights And Try To The Charge Media To Quote Tweets | Techdirt
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	:/
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	yes, and the powers that be see that and move a little further each towards
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	making self-hosting impossible; 
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	case in point: notice how the web browsers have started treating self-signed
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	certificates; the attititude seems to be that no institution should have 
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	the audacity to stand for their authenticity of their own site(s)
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	it's about control as much as spying
[13:49]	schestowitz-TR	did you see how yesterday canonical was pushing AZURE
[13:49]	schestowitz-TR	as "CONFIDENTIAL computing"?
[13:49]	schestowitz-TR	I could vomit!
[13:49]	Techrights-sec	yes ans so is Raspberry Pi Foundation
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	I am really not happy with the way the Net is going
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	but I also also hopeful
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	because I see teens who grew up into the Net who are not happy either
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	also people in their 20s who help TR
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	they don't like what  happens around them and they begin to understand why
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	and that other ways exist
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	of course social control media will obstruct such messages
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	and try to sell something "news"
[13:56]	schestowitz-TR	"new"
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	now, regarding press, that's a trickeier one
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	there's a battle between distributions mode
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	net neutrality, centralisation, plagiarism etc.
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	I used to be very unhappy about it
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	the coping mechanism is, over time, come to grips with it being an opportunity
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	if nobody else does the job right (like giving the voice to the oppressed and to WBers)
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	then you feel the gap
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	*fill it, too
[13:58]	schestowitz-TR	we still have material in store
● May 03
[14:03]	schestowitz-TR	banning self-hosting would be like banning consumption of alcohol (which happened)
[14:05]	Techrights-sec	ack
[14:05]	Techrights-sec	not really, it creates more opportunities for surveillance and control but
[14:05]	Techrights-sec	at the same time it raises prices
[14:05]	Techrights-sec	should www.mediaite.com be considered junk or not?
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	I got this site a lot from gulag noise around 5 years ago when I was looking for some political "content"
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	it was always establishment trash, search for that domain in techrights and see if you can find worthy
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	material from them
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	they can 'do an RMS' on Chomsky
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	it's an easy game to play
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	RMS <3 Epstein
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	Chomsky <3 Trump
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR	even though the exact opposite is true
[14:07]	schestowitz-TR	<techrights-news> "Imagine that the sum of consumption spending, investment, and government spending increased at 2.7 percent annual rate in the quarter (which they did)." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/02/the-surge-in-imports-and-the-drop-in-gdp-offloading-the-ships-lined-up-offshore/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:07]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Surge in Imports and the Drop in GDP: Offloading the Ships Lined Up Offshore - CounterPunch.org
[14:07]	Techrights-sec	https://en.unesco.org/commemorations/worldpressfreedomday
[14:07]	Techrights-sec	ack
[14:07]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.unesco.org | World Press Freedom Day
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	my cheat cheat (mental)
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	- less energy
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	(my friend Mike says he and Saraah pay 250 pounds per month for energy, he could NOT BELIEVE rianne and I pay 
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	less than 100, with 8 PCs turned on 24/7)
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	- less buying (do I need this? canm I reuse something we have already?)
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	- fidn ways to entertain at home (rianne still watches 'oo much' gulagtube
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	but thankfully librewolf blocks all the trash... FOR NOW)
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	there are other things, but the above helps us keep bills, inc. home, at around 750 a month
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	*cheat sheet (typo)
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	apropos, gulagtube
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	rianne loves watching farmers
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	with their channels on very ordinary lives in villeges
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	their number of views plunged
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	they aren't into tech, they just have a "phone"
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	so they don't understand what's happening
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	people can blame themselves for actions of millionaires in California
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	reduce, reuse, recycle
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	nearly done with links now; new routine: 1) clean general news, work on articles 
[14:15]	schestowitz-TR	2) clean linux-centric news after rianne, then again articles, sleep in between for mental breaks
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	young people are trained to speak in buttons and emojis
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	you don't even need to type in like
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	that's partly the fault of the devices promoted to people
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	they can choose a picture fastr or click an "up yours" 9x9 pixelspace
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	but there are exceptions and the exceptions are those driving change in society
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	mmost people are 'clickfarmers'
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR	(or pinch, scroll, zoon... not productive activities, no actual output, just consumption)
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	the buttons and emojis have shifting ephemeral meanings, changing week by week
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	so the noise they are used to produce is meaningless even in the short term
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	and is only about captivating attention for "engagement"
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	clickfarm livestock emit behaviors for harvesting
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	AAthey are not the product, their emitted behaviors are the product, 
[14:19]	Techrights-sec	they are just the host or substrate for the actual product
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	it happened before in history
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	it comes and goes in waves
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	to avoid being eliminated you need to know how to play the 'games'
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	I explained this yesterdaay to a friend
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	who is exceeedingly concerned about what he called "cancel culture"
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	ethereum founder recently spoke about it as well, I can send you the 
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	video, he's an interesting led, never mind if the "coins" are
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	garbage
[14:22]	schestowitz-TR	*interesting lad
[14:22]	Techrights-sec	ack
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[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	this year mayday happens thrice
[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	very slow news day so far 
[15:16]	schestowitz-TR	even rianne is struggling
[15:18]	Techrights-sec	there was one article about that phenomenon, even naming stenographers as part
[15:18]	Techrights-sec	of the problem
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	I'm "ok" (not) with it, except it makes it hard for me to find good topics to cover
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	I have to find "leads" on my own
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[15:24]	Techrights-sec	As we discussed before, sifting through RSS feeds is quite time consuming.
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	It can't be automated for many feeds because the words and phrases present
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	are not necessarily the exact topic covered in a given post.  Even the automated
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	feeds are (mostly) just a guess, though some of them are rather good most of 
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	the time because those particular feeds are written very consistently to
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	summarize in a particular part of the document each timme
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	^time
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[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	atm I still do in tadem the feeds from quiterss and the text file, until I get comfortable enough turning them off
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	so far, so good
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	it does
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	save time
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	esp. in  feeds that rarely have anything major in them
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	which means that manual cherry-picking isn't so important
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	sadly, a large proportion of all feeds are like that
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	we used to have sites such as linux.com and groklaw
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	those did have some good material
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	now I'm sifting through low-quality howto sites, some with poior english (india),
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	and then there's the stuff which comes from Google, which either 'insults'
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	what I am searching for or presents some very lousy non-investigative piece of crap
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	x announced y
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	z version N released
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	time 10
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	for ubuntt, times 100
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	so it's mostly a clustering job
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	not even studying pertinent pieces of unique info
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	there used to be a lot more reviews of distros online
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR	I am guessing lack of traffic that they receive have decreased the incentive to produce them
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	distro reviews depend on people being able to to choose or wanting to choose
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	and new computers are getting locked into vista11 and old computers are 
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	mostly already in use.  The general public does not know about anything, even 
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	vista10/11, and would not know what to make of the article should they even
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	see it.  Also the desktop market is declining in comparison to the handset
[15:30]	Techrights-sec	market.
[15:31]	schestowitz-TR	sales in both are decreeasing, b ut that's a good thing
[15:31]	schestowitz-TR	also, reuse does favour gnu/linux
[15:32]	schestowitz-TR	esp. in poorer countries
[15:32]	Techrights-sec	 There it's technically Linux albeit closed off for 85% and FOSS but    
[15:32]	Techrights-sec	proprietary for the remaining 15%.
[15:32]	Techrights-sec	Reuse of desktops would favor GNU/Linux.  It is already dominant in the server
[15:32]	Techrights-sec	market 
[15:32]	schestowitz-TR	the wahat market??? Oh, the clown!
[15:34]	Techrights-sec	embedded, and supercomputers.
[15:34]	Techrights-sec	Yes, that is another threat: clown computing;  It's another way of             
[15:34]	Techrights-sec	decommoditizing GNU/Linux.  AWS "skills" won't transfer to Google or the 
[15:34]	Techrights-sec	others and vice versa.  A few still allow for raw SSH connections but 
[15:34]	Techrights-sec	those days are probably numbered.  
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[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	fsf has done too little on this matter (rms does talk about it), maybe aas it is seen as a "lesse evil"
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	because gnu is in there, unlike android
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	but they need to deal more with concepts and not brands
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	rms is bettere at that
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	notice they are failing to set an example on social control media
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	still not a single statement onon musk buying the site which mandates proprietary softwar (
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR	(wanand which fsf uses for "outreach")
[15:38]	Techrights-sec	I see much of that problem coming from the LF and it's implied encouragement
[15:38]	Techrights-sec	of GPL violations.
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	(sometimes the mute buttons still work [existing blunders notwithstanding] so I can laugh with rianne
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR	when the CEO says we can get AWS "certified" and the company would help with that)
[15:42]	Techrights-sec	ack
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR	joke: what doy you call the twitter blue tick now? Musk certified (not verified).
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[15:56]	Techrights-sec	the tick has always been an endorsement, nothing more, nothing less, and
[15:56]	Techrights-sec	specifically a political endorsement in most cases
● May 03
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	Remember that Jack started Twitter and it was not always clownville or peer support of mob assembly
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	Roy Schestowitz (tick) it/it (east my shorts)
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	that started happening maybe 5 years ago
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	when you also had the (((echo))) crowd and various other nefarious groups
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	Pieter H left the platform around that time
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR	seeing what it had become
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	Twitter looked infantile to me before I joined it
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	it looks like making the Web a SMS service, which is actually what it is
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	this is where Jack Dorsey came from
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	and why he implemented it this way
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	and then they go some high-profile adopters turning this silly tor/experiment (like bitcoin)
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	into a real thing
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	and reporters thought it would be a good idea to upload their material and write articles into 
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	"tweets"
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	youcan find articles
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	you cannot find tweets, certainly not context in them
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR	 /s/tor/toy/
[16:08]	Techrights-sec	dunno. twitter was always useless even during its best years at the beginning
[16:08]	Techrights-sec	also the signal to noise ratio - there were a few MB of crap, includign      
[16:08]	Techrights-sec	javascripts, to wrap a stupi 140 characters for each and every post
[16:08]	Techrights-sec	that's correct, the old tweets are not "discoverable".  
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	this is partly a design choice
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	they derank for age
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	and promote recently
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	it give illusion of greater impact ooverall
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR	to entice more Musk-certified slaves
[16:10]	Techrights-sec	yes even from the beginning the "tweets' were always without contexxt
[16:10]	Techrights-sec	the goal is not communication but addiction and monopolization of attention
[16:22]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	brb tea 
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	(rianne is out, will buy coffee, I miss brewing it)
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	back now 
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	I use the dining room as an office now, so it's right next to the food, a wall apart
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	a a plus and a minus
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	I have meanwhile come to  realise that phoronix descended into a format I strongly dislike
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	it's basically hardware adds with "Kernel Trap" (the old Web site)-like editorials
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	you pick some kernel mailing list message or commit found in it
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	then write some blurb about it
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR	until the next 'review" (ad)
[16:26]	Techrights-sec	don't spill
[16:26]	Techrights-sec	:(
[16:26]	Techrights-sec	I forgot about Phoronix
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	thinss on the desk are always being repositoned to make spills very improbable
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	the teapot is at the back, need to get up to refill
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	the mug is far from the laptops
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	re phoronix 
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	I hardly find much of use there
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	I felt bad for michael
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	being treated like shit in reddit and lxer
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	but he let me down very badly
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR	so I used to link to almost everything he posted, except "meta" posts
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[16:32]	Techrights-sec	yes larabel is in a hard spot  and it hurt to watch him sell out
[16:32]	Techrights-sec	one of the reasons he was treated poorly in shit sites like reddit and such
[16:32]	Techrights-sec	was because he had been doing top quality work in high quantity as well
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[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	but wait
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	that's not alll
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	theres'ssssssss moar
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	the thing is, he extensively covers a hard-to-grasp area
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	one where, had he worked in some cubicle in a digi-farm, he'd earn a lot of money for
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	rather than have to beg while working 100+ hours a week
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	there are sosme commonalities to what I do
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	except afaik he stopped doing "consulting"
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	so now it's more like ads, as "reviews" etc.
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	I checked comment counts through the front page back on monday and it was lower than before
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	with alexa rank dead and people not using "toolbars" in a browser anymore it's just one way you can estimate activi
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	ty
[16:34]	Techrights-sec	there are more dignified ways to make money than "reviews" and ads etc
[16:34]	Techrights-sec	https://futurism.com/neoscope/volunteer-drinks-dysentery-smoothie-diarrhea-vaccine-research
[16:34]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-futurism.com | Brave Volunteer Drinks Dysentery Smoothie to Give Himself Life-Threatening Diarrhea
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[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	"brave"
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	Jackass (MTV)
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	you say dignified, but trust me, that's a hard task
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	I chatted about my job with my dad in recent days, pension too
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	he said, stay there! You're so lucky.
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	it's a job for two, and tax rates are thus very low, and the work can be spread among two
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	I think fatima helps michael behind the scnes
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	he rarely talks about his private left, but she was a breadwinner until the pandemic
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	that is "over"... and the "job market" has NEVER BEEN BETTER (thanks, CNN!! Now I feel good)
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	   /sleft/life/
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	yes that is correct, it is work.  It's just that the employer is not trustable
[16:38]	Techrights-sec	and potentially maliciosu
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[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	the one thing I give credit for,
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	the CEO stands up for speech of workers
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	(tomorrow you will see the subject covered in relation to SaM, also on Thurs)
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	even when pressured
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	he's a BSD person
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	but I reckon he's not even using BSD anymore
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	the clown lunacy is sold as "cost-saving"
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	to me, it is reputation-threatening
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	clients need people who solve problem
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	not people who send the job to other companies, which bag the business
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	cloud is usually a solution in search of a problem
[16:44]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	to frame it another way, to net and keep a client you need to carry out serevices for them
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	not outsource things for them
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	because you're done
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	but it's not about money
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	it's about actually doing the job, not delegating to X Y Z
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	where X Y and Z are not you
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	the old company domain name is now up for renewal
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	let's see what happens
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	rianne mentioned the nominey countdown last night
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	*nominet
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	maybe they can toss all the old domain and put "clown" in there instead
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	or "sometimes"
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	*old domains
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	clown is surveillance and control (see what happens in Ukraine war, not DRM too!) disguised 
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	as "cost-saving"/"modern" (the future)/"uptime"/"security" (I regard the outsourcing itself to be a breach)
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	they keep shuffling the fantasies and false promises around
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	depeneing on the audience
[16:46]	schestowitz-TR	like Team UPC does
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[16:51]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	the triger for rianne wanting to quit was a colleague pushing to move from asterisk (we've always used it, before
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	I even joined) to Gulag Voice, which doesn't even work and was recently shut down to make way for
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	"modern experience" (all the necessary stuff removed, for business reasons I assume, Gulag's)
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	the colleague whom I think pushed for it used to say "Google is your friend"
[16:51]	schestowitz-TR	His main OS< I think, is Windowsd
[16:52]	Techrights-sec	asterisk is quite good, in addition to being able to self-host it
[16:52]	Techrights-sec	not a real tech person at all then.  his statements and actions belie that
[16:52]	Techrights-sec	justa reseller, eventually an M$ reseller
[16:52]	Techrights-sec	has he come to that yet?
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	no, he does not like Microsoft 
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	it's a peculiar situation
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	to make matters worse, he lives with a lesbian couple
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	and his former wife sort of swapped partners with him and the other coupe
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	so on the personal side of things, two colleagues detect that too
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	the lesbians have no clue about GNU/Linux and no qualifiactions in tec
[16:54]	schestowitz-TR	he shadows for them
[16:54]	Techrights-sec	:/ covering for unqualified people is never good
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	that overurdens him 
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	*burdens
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	and he is not THAT good, he just compensated with hours and passion
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	the issue is, we cannot attract, let alone retain, any talented people
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	we still had a few years back, but SarinGas scared them all
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	and now TheLiar is gaslighting everyone
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	we've just collecing or milking
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	the latter is the phrase we use
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	the former, IIRC, is what my friend said
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	it won't last forver, I don't think...
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	but we can set aside savings for little effort and we do not get bullied anymore
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	SarinGas liked to abuse people, and she often did
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	until she got the boot
[16:59]	Techrights-sec	it's too bad she was there so long, does the current top management know
[16:59]	Techrights-sec	about her and the other dickhead and have a plan to repair things?
● May 03
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	I came for tech, I stay for popcorn
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	when working from home you get to call people name
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	and they can never find out
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	it makes life a little more sarcastic
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	it would be hard to repair things after drain drain
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	we had a new young colleague from seoul, who left after he realised a number of 
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	things in my estimation
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	1) the skill surve is very steep because we have accounts all over the place, at least 3 VPNs
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	(we used to use LDAP, even for jabber)
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	2)the slaary is shit, and unless you're fine with (1) you need to spend a lot of time learning
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	(there is no good documentation anymore; nobody bothers, either)
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	3) dead end, so why bother with (1)?
[17:02]	schestowitz-TR	4) SarinGas and no transparency (well, unless you count lies as such)
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	BOTTOM line: if you know what you are doing, you can get 100 pounds (post-tax)
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	for about one hour of net work
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	That's the only reason several of us stay and have stayed for a long time
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	the management cannot afford to lose any of us, it would have a devastating effect
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	on operations
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	(due to (1) mostly)
[17:04]	Techrights-sec	beware hot mics
[17:04]	Techrights-sec	Yes, many companies fail to have a decent process or envrionment to bring
[17:04]	Techrights-sec	in new people and have them level up;
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	in our case (us, rianne & roy, not $company), we've leveraged this to our advantage
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	we're like a custom-made home with intercom (landline, 20 pounds 10 years ago), sip phone
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	monitoring machines and workflow for collaboration... so doing a shift is easy-peasy
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	when you are not on "famous" sites like Musk Social, and colleagues don't know what IRC is,
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	you can carry on as usual and sometimes forget you are working
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	leaving twitter has that benefit too
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	I don't do FB,but I read and hear of people who get in trouble for what they post
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	during working hours or what they post on their sick leave (of if "late" for work)
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	FB as a service... for bosses
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	Tomorrow we cover FB as career ender... for SaM
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	I posted a teaser this morning
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	btw, all this stuff is OK in public
[17:10]	schestowitz-TR	it's like insultign amish on live TV
[17:10]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:10]	Techrights-sec	:/
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	side story (nostalgia)
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	more than 10 years ago a female colleague whom I won't name set up an IRC channel in freenode (IIRC) to make a 
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	place for staff to express dissent
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	the management found out about it, and this wasn't the last such effort (I'm told)
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	it's worse than a union
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	one person got sacked over something similar (I was never told the exact details of what had happened)
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	the mistake there was, too many people having to keep hushed)
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	no anonymity and so on
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	rookies
[17:15]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	then, when a blind colleague was sacked (this is legally dynamite) the jabber server was temporarily shut down
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	based on obviously BS excuses
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	to discourage colleagues talking to one another
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	as if they have no mobile phones etc.
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	this reminds me of what EPO does to SUEPO
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	or Lukashenko with his "brilliant" Internet shutdowns
[17:15]	schestowitz-TR	the people who do this would also block techrights as if workers live and sleep on the fanctory floor
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	not sure if you saw it, but according to a new memoir from a military bigwig the Senile Politician considered order
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	ing that protesters be shot
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	maybe he never read books on what happens next, or maybe Xi gave up "Kung Flu" right up the head
[17:19]	schestowitz-TR	[13:03] <techrights-news> Esper's memoir https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/02/trump-wanted-shoot-protesters-says-his-former-pentagon-chief | Source: Common Dreams
[17:19]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Trump Wanted to Shoot Protesters, Says His Former Pentagon Chief
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	[17:19] <techrights-news> If you STILL "participate" in Twitter (a Musk-certified slave) you are a fool https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/28/tech/elon-musk-authenticate-all-real-humans/index.html
[17:21]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edition.cnn.com | Elon Musk wants to 'authenticate all real humans' on Twitter. Here's what that could mean - CNN
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	[17:19] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- edition.cnn.com | Elon Musk wants to 'authenticate all real humans' on Twitter. Here's what that could mean - CNN
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	[17:20] <techrights-news> "On Monday, the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, purchased Twitter and assigned himself the most honourable of tasks: saving civilisation as we know it." https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-palestine-white-saviour
[17:21]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-palestine-white-saviour )
[17:21]	schestowitz-TR	bill gates complex
[17:22]	schestowitz-TR	I. Rich. Therefore. I. Good!
[17:23]	schestowitz-TR	make me more rich. I make more good.
[17:23]	schestowitz-TR	"job creators" mindset
[17:23]	Techrights-sec	ack
[17:23]	Techrights-sec	yes worship of wealth
[17:23]	schestowitz-TR	plutophilia
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot find it anymore (did try), but about 15 years ago there were loads of headlines
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	saying that Gates had the "mostdesirable" sperm among chinese women
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot find it mostly because the media is now covering up for the Gates divorce
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	blaming some schinese interpreter instead of epstein
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	melinda maade it very clear that it was about esptein 
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	but there you go...
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	corporate media, googlebombing, reputation laundering etc.
[17:27]	Techrights-sec	eww
[17:27]	schestowitz-TR	yes, I did not refine my search, I'd rather not even have entered what I did into that search box, so I carefully
[17:28]	schestowitz-TR	crafted the string
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	hmm... coronavirus portal in the UK not updated since April 29th. It's 17:30 already. BillBC is in full propaganda
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	mode, herding people back into their cages in the office
[17:38]	Techrights-sec	I think that portal or its data is getting phased out.
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	they already revised, several times, what they publish and how to make it seem smaller than it is
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	as I pointed out at the time
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	and it's still the best we have
[17:38]	schestowitz-TR	billBC ic an insult to one's intelligence
[17:48]	Techrights-sec	Bill's money at work...
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	when I go to bed rianne usually stays up with the laptop on either gulagtube or billbc
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	the latter is only good for shits and giggles
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	she says she only sees the pictures and headlines, barely clicks
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	but to actually get meaningful news out of it is not possible
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	it's pollution for the head and nothing of actual importance
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	more like TV boradcast but more static 
[17:53]	schestowitz-TR	sooner or later there will be no "creators" left in gulagtube 
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	not even spamnil
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	no incentive to invest the time
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	then the site will have no creators but licensors
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	for "official" football videos, and adds front, end, and centre
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	*ads
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	gulag is "in for a shock" if it thinks it can retain viewers this way
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	but video hosting is very complex and expensive
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	so maybe the idea was, weed out the competition
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	thewn start closing 
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	and put ads everywhere, use dmca etc. (lawyering up) alternative ways of "accessing"
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	the "content"
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	a lot of "smart" TVs or "screens" have bloted in ads, locked down stuff (not even able 
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	to bypass expired root cert for web browsing) and Gulag Tube is part of the "expoerience" there
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	so the idea is, you will have no choice
[17:54]	schestowitz-TR	like having to "buy" Windows with any new PC
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	still exposure to their spin though
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	it mostly coasts on the reputation from decades past which has been unmaintained
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	for a very long time
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	it's squeezing the few remaining to the point they have to leave too
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	unfortunately M$ has programmed the public to see windoze as part of the computer
[17:56]	Techrights-sec	especially off the shelf models
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	that changed in the past decade because of GA, not the M.
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	though those can be no better for freedom, they are just branded differently.
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	'Linux' Foundation sees nothing wrong, in fact it became part of this 
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	problem.
● May 03
[18:01]	schestowitz-TR	[17:59] <techrights-news> The gov. seems to be blocking sales of oil. Shortages foreseen. What a wonderful world, eh?
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	COOKIGN oil
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	Rianne says they don'd display it
[18:03]	schestowitz-TR	and media keeps quiet to avoid the panic buyinh
[18:04]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:04]	Techrights-sec	it is long past time to leave petrochemical fuels in the dung heap of history
[18:04]	Techrights-sec	The new computer have no Windows stickers on them if that's what you mean
[18:04]	Techrights-sec	and the sales displays usually do not mention either Windows or M$
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	rianne is now taking stock of how many cooking oils we have
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	you need to make a special request at the shop to buy those
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	"open secret, I guess
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	yes there is alreay a cooking oil shortage, it will worsen serverely and soon
[18:06]	Techrights-sec	and probably last a long while
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	time to rethink what we cook, how, when..
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	the price are also getting quite high, according to her
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	this will harm poor people
[18:07]	schestowitz-TR	you ned oil for soups, rice etc.
[18:08]	Techrights-sec	not necessarily, it depends on the method
[18:08]	schestowitz-TR	right, but the recipes changee a bit
[18:08]	Techrights-sec	I've not seen such recipes though I can imagine that they are around
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	got all set up now with the coffee kits, matching sets
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	1.69 pounds for 227grams, good quality mix, I think (will taste later)
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	lots of perople struggling
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	this has become "the new normal"
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	but you would not know this based on Dick Brandon and Dickie gates' BBC
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	they have sections for "lifestyle" IIRC
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR	just sticking it in to the "working class" (i.e. people who do ALL the actual work)
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[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	 The body does not match the headline https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220503-01.en.html
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	Gulag Deutschland (FSFE) tries to spin this as its OWN success story
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	it's about HEY HI and the EU
[18:42]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fsfe.org | European Parliament votes for Free Software in AI resolution This position must now be included in the AI regulation - FSFE
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	I am sure they did not say "free software"
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	and the first sentence suggests something not the same as the headline
[18:42]	schestowitz-TR	but I am guessing they appeal for donation
[18:49]	Techrights-sec	ack
[18:49]	Techrights-sec	The name problem with it calling itself FSFE has not been resolved yet.
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	1) they do not wish for people to know
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	2) or to find out
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	3) they cannot censor TR
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	4) so they have taken aim at things I wrote like a year earlier in Twitter
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	5) they leverages nazi-related laws in Germany
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	6) they managed to hide only one tweet, and only in Germany
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	7) they do promote freedom; that was one of several forces that had me thinking of stopping
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	to bother with such time-wasting and emotion-draining proprietary platforms
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	8) later came ICBM with the same tactyics (I assume it was IBM, fronting with genderphobes)
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	9) then OSI, which afaik put me on last strike (week-long suspension, no ability to get my 
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	appeal processed at all)
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	FSF thought it would be in a position of advantage by attacking the real (original) FSFE
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	but it does not seem to have gained popularity this way
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	worse yet, they have alienated many (like me) who were sympathetic towards both FSFE *AND* 
[18:49]	schestowitz-TR	FSF at the same time
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	oops, I reversed FSFE and FSF up above, FSFE was attacking FSF, the opposite never happened
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	FSF had more class
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	BTW, Phoronix today also struggles to write
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	a bunch of photos attacked to some git change logs with dross to dress it up
[18:51]	schestowitz-TR	and AMD job ad as ARTICLE!
[18:51]	Techrights-sec	yes FSFE was and kind of still is a problem
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	it barely blogs anymore
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	I think it is becoming less relevant
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	it latches onto news that have nothing to do with its campaign
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR	I think they try to ensor me because I drove a wedge between them and Gulag teats
[18:53]	Techrights-sec	Michael lost a lot of people when he made those 'changes' 
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR	I can only judge/estimate/assess by # of comments, which isn't sa reliable measure
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR	as if can be a closely-knit  community like us in IRC
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR	but not many unique readers. Plus, many readers never comment.
[18:59]	Techrights-sec	ack
● May 03
[19:01]	schestowitz-TR	I fumble for story ideas
[19:01]	schestowitz-TR	I'm lost
[19:01]	schestowitz-TR	irc is very busy at the moment
[19:01]	schestowitz-TR	busier but of better substance or s/n than social control media, just presented differently
[19:01]	schestowitz-TR	last thing I want to do is publish mindless dross or page fillers
[19:04]	Techrights-sec	DRM is unfortunately a perrenial topic
[19:04]	Techrights-sec	that's a rcent example but care has to be taken so that  JD cannot spin this as
[19:04]	Techrights-sec	a good thing; two wrongs don't make a right
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	I could comment on the ukraine john deere story, I suppose
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	easier in video
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	like "chomsky <3 trumputin"
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	yes, it's a difficult one, like free sofwtare and sanction
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	you either support putin or support the opposition to sofwtare freedom
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	hackaday went with a headline suggesting this was a Good THing
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	I found that disappointing, but didn't read the whole thing 
[19:06]	schestowitz-TR	[13:24] <techrights-news> Just don't buy 'new' cars https://hackaday.com/2022/05/02/from-car-to-device-how-software-is-changing-vehicle-ownership/ | Source: Hackaday http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/
[19:06]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-From Car To Device: How Software Is Changing Vehicle Ownership | Hackaday
[19:06]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights
[19:06]	schestowitz-TR	[13:23] <techrights-news> Are they glorifying DRM just because "RUSSIA"??? https://hackaday.com/2022/05/02/for-once-the-long-arm-of-john-deere-presses-the-right-button/ | Source: Hackaday
[19:06]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-For Once, The Long Arm Of John Deere Presses The Right Button | Hackaday
[19:08]	Techrights-sec	CNN seems to have the first coverage of the JD drm incidents
[19:08]	Techrights-sec	the take away is that drm is no longer a theoretical threat it is now a matter
[19:08]	Techrights-sec	of who is the target, and there can be multiple targets
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/cgi-bin/uy/webpages.cgi?/logicalfallacies/Two-Wrongs-Make-a-Right
[19:10]	Techrights-sec	https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/
[19:10]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.logicallyfallacious.com | Two Wrongs Make a Right
[19:10]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-15 Logical Fallacies You Should Know Before Getting Into a Debate - TheBestSchools.org
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	putin wrong
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	drm wrong
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	wrong + wrong = wropng
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	wrong x wrong = good
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	only minutes ago admfubar (I know the real name) posted the cnn link in the main channel
[19:11]	schestowitz-TR	I saw the SN coverage
[19:13]	Techrights-sec	The CNN link is in the daily links either today or tomorow ... checking
[19:13]	Techrights-sec	today's
[19:13]	schestowitz-TR	I alreeady posted that in the latest daily links, along with hackaday
[19:13]	schestowitz-TR	I've not sseen an article debunking this 
[19:13]	schestowitz-TR	if one existed, then it's "chomksy loves vladimir" time
[19:16]	schestowitz-TR	I am thinking hard how it can be preseted, e.g. in video, without it seeming lame 
[19:16]	schestowitz-TR	or apologists for theft and for vicious 'Red Army'
[19:16]	schestowitz-TR	it boils down not to DRM but the 
[19:16]	schestowitz-TR	logical fallacies in the media
[19:16]	schestowitz-TR	and then having to explain what's at stake with drm in general
[19:19]	Techrights-sec	yes that sums it up
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	cost of today's sinner: about 5 pennies
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	*dinneer
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	I think less than the spoonfull of roast and soy drink inside it
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	now I'll think if there's enough material for recording
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR	the text will be more important
[19:29]	Techrights-sec	oh buying food not indulgences ;)
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	indulgences nowadays do not necessatily mean healthy diet
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	more processed food ingredients
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	class consciousness always plays a role
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	like "air miles" vanity
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	the more you spend, the more you will need to work, i.e. do things
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	you may not enjoy
[19:31]	schestowitz-TR	so it's a tradeoff between indulgences
[19:32]	schestowitz-TR	OTA
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● May 03
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	I have relayed an hours-old email to you
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	it's mostly BS talk
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	which reaffirmed what we thought about the company going down the bin
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	while pretending to be "OK"
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	I may need advice on how to exit without losing the rights to compensatiom 
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	one scenario that I have in mind is
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	they declare the outfit in the UK 'insoilvent'
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	and then claim the other one is "USA"
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	and therefore it's hard to take it to court here
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	but maybe I'm thinking too far ahead
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	to be clear, our intent to leave did not foresee this at all
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	but was motivated purely by a dire stench
[22:48]	schestowitz-TR	in some sense this is good news as it opens up the potential for compensation
● May 03
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