●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 03, 2022 ●● ● Jul 03 [00:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:59] *SaphirJD has quit (connection closed) [00:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [01:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [03:08] *schestowitz[TR] has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:09] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:12] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [03:12] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@freenode-i33.jp8.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:13] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:13] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [05:02] *techrights_guest|1 (~490bc725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [05:20] *techrights_guest|1 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [05:24] Techrights-sec2 does TM's database need repairing again? [05:24] Techrights-sec2 220703 3:50:39 [ERROR] Got error 127 when reading table './drupal/node_revisions' [05:24] schestowitz-TR 0/ [05:24] schestowitz-TR seems possble [05:24] schestowitz-TR did you just check logs or was ther wan incident? ● Jul 03 [06:58] Techrights-sec2 checked logs but there have been temporary skips in the monitoring [06:58] Techrights-sec2 not sure of the reason because the HTTP daemon seems active and responding [06:58] Techrights-sec2 during those outages ● Jul 03 [07:00] schestowitz-TR do you want to try your revised script? [07:00] schestowitz-TR it's quiet so a little downtime right how would have minimal effect [07:00] schestowitz-TR that table is not a critical one, and maybe it's marked as crashed [07:00] schestowitz-TR the site itself has been working OK [07:00] schestowitz-TR I did have httpd restarted maybe 2 times this past week [07:00] schestowitz-TR due to load surge at DB level [07:00] schestowitz-TR (the usual) [07:03] Techrights-sec2 can we try the script later today, I am busy afk mostly for the next few hours [07:03] Techrights-sec2 I would want to give the script process full attention not multitask (at best) [07:05] schestowitz-TR today is 4th of july "eve" so new is not slow [07:05] schestowitz-TR news is DEAD [07:05] schestowitz-TR overnight while alseep only 3 new items in my feed! [07:05] schestowitz-TR so I expect TM will be super-slow the whole day [07:05] schestowitz-TR good day to test things [07:05] schestowitz-TR and "tidy up" the DB, not just now but any time of the day [07:05] schestowitz-TR I am here trying to come up with topics, having pretty much exhausted feed I can add (for now) [07:05] schestowitz-TR I thought about improiving the irce server, but it's precarious and would be risky to tinker with [07:05] schestowitz-TR short of a test box [07:16] schestowitz-TR checked daily backups of TM at both ends [07:16] schestowitz-TR running new repair script [07:16] schestowitz-TR checking outcome [07:16] schestowitz-TR it did need repairing [07:16] schestowitz-TR locking was not an issue this time [07:32] schestowitz-TR 1) on TR, all 3 GZ files for today are OK [07:32] schestowitz-TR 2) on TM, db repair script update 27th of June [07:32] schestowitz-TR 3) on TR, the TM backups not compressed for a few days now, maybe by intention [07:32] schestowitz-TR 4) on TM DB repair, the tables affected seem cache relatd [07:32] schestowitz-TR 5) I've been tail -f'ing the db logs for a while, all OK [07:32] schestowitz-TR did full backup of TM -> TR [07:32] schestowitz-TR this time it compressed OK [07:32] schestowitz-TR theory: since 29-06-2022 when dumping the DB it failed in the middle due to the DB issue [07:32] schestowitz-TR judging by the size of the dump, it is likely OK, but the repair process seemed a little [07:32] schestowitz-TR aggressive [07:32] schestowitz-TR though not in tables that scare me, hopefully I won't see any odd bahvious [07:32] schestowitz-TR going to run repair again (downtimes), thjen make local backup [07:38] schestowitz-TR all good, I have more confidence in it now, well spooted (noticing this issue), we were having bad backups for 4 days already [07:38] schestowitz-TR the culprits were "revisions" and search index, now it >seems< ok, but fingers crossed. if something is terrible broken, it would become [07:38] schestowitz-TR apparent fast [07:40] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Jul 03 [08:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [09:34] schestowitz-TR a) saw your two links re newsrooms dying (we need to outlive these) b) rianne and I post links OK [09:34] schestowitz-TR c) IO monitor mysql log all the time now having: d) studied the past 2 year's errors and events [09:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[09:51] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:51] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [10:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:38] schestowitz-TR not a single entry in teh mysql.log file sicne 6am when I repaired the DB [10:38] schestowitz-TR IMHO, the DB is in tenable state [10:38] schestowitz-TR but I hope it does not break within 2 daya again, as it did the last time [10:38] schestowitz-TR repaired 26th, then issues on the 28th [10:38] schestowitz-TR which you spotted 4 days later [10:38] schestowitz-TR from the site's front end everything seemed OK [10:38] schestowitz-TR but backups were failing [10:38] schestowitz-TR the most important DB table is "nodes" [10:38] schestowitz-TR comments are also important [10:38] schestowitz-TR in case we even wanted to export the thing, e.g. to static pages [10:38] schestowitz-TR [09:40] Running a site for 20 years is difficult for technical reasons, like technical debt and difficult "upgrade" routes, which cost a lot of time if not money. Software needs to "slow da fuck down!" [10:38] schestowitz-TR [09:41] Running very old sites and keeping them online for many years would, at some point, involve DBA skills [10:39] Techrights-sec2 ack [10:43] schestowitz-TR this is the only DB in TR and TM which we were not even able to relocate to the dedicated DB server [10:43] schestowitz-TR because, I think, the storage engine and DB are "too old" [10:43] schestowitz-TR as soon as you "write" to the new (remote) DB it goes into a bad state and panics [10:43] schestowitz-TR kaniini and I repeated this at least 3 times with slight variations [10:43] schestowitz-TR and it was a repeatable issue [10:43] schestowitz-TR don't be upset if I suggest moving TM first ;-) [10:43] schestowitz-TR it's still a small task then TR [10:43] schestowitz-TR but I don't wants to "modernise" the front end [10:43] schestowitz-TR that typically just means bloat and more undesirable things [10:43] schestowitz-TR susan openly complained that when moving from drupal 4->5 and/or 5->6 many things stopped working [10:43] schestowitz-TR you need to give up on a lot of functionality as each "major" (x.0) release is like a [10:43] schestowitz-TR new CMS [10:44] schestowitz-TR and Drupal pushes out a new "major" one every 3 or so years [10:44] schestowitz-TR job creation the "broken windows" way [10:44] schestowitz-TR for us and others who can support Drupal [10:46] Techrights-sec2 ack [10:46] Techrights-sec2 np [10:46] Techrights-sec2 as long as the move starts and goes smoothly, either order is fine [10:49] schestowitz-TR I often wonder what thought process led techdirt to a) move to wordpress b) move to wordpress.COM [10:49] schestowitz-TR the SLAPPers can now hammer away at automttic [10:49] schestowitz-TR and to them, a private company, masnick is just "dirt" [10:49] schestowitz-TR sometimes the threatening letters (or words) are sent to kaniini, not to me [10:49] schestowitz-TR it's a method [10:49] schestowitz-TR pocock was threatened by the host too, after they had received complaints [10:49] schestowitz-TR even the new host, in iceland, sometimes sighs a bit with its lawyers [10:49] schestowitz-TR he uses ipfs and asked me about gemini, but those are no panaceas [10:49] Techrights-sec2 yes there are several major disadvantages to moving away from self-hosting [10:49] Techrights-sec2 they try everything they think they /might/ be able to get away with [10:49] Techrights-sec2 especially not IPFS [10:55] schestowitz-TR you asked me how ipfs works [10:55] schestowitz-TR I think I totally get it and why it would never work for more than a few small files [10:55] schestowitz-TR without "accelerators" ("bros" selling their "services") [10:55] schestowitz-TR and why I might turn it on for just the nightly "ipfs add", then shut it off for 23 hours [10:55] schestowitz-TR with dht being the primary 'force' (waste) you distribute "maps"/merkle tress/chains with [10:55] schestowitz-TR hashes and swarms pass these around [10:55] schestowitz-TR those tell you which nodes have which hashes [10:55] schestowitz-TR now, you can imagine what happens when you and millions of others have thousands of hashes each [10:55] schestowitz-TR and the storage/cpu/ram issues aside, the "bus" is the network [10:55] schestowitz-TR nice experiment (papers in the wastebasket), but poorly thought out for scale [10:55] schestowitz-TR it still takes quite a bit of time just to add 1 )(or 5) new objects every night [10:55] schestowitz-TR to make a new chain of hashes [10:55] schestowitz-TR my hope was that patience would tackle performance issues and that more people [10:55] schestowitz-TR would "PIN" our hashed data [10:55] Techrights-sec2 yes [10:58] schestowitz-TR i think the above issues will merit debates in the coming years because of media hype and subversion [10:58] schestowitz-TR also, those relates to the dynamic of free press and how lawyers/poliicians are being [10:58] schestowitz-TR manipulated into impeding it online [10:58] schestowitz-TR now that print press is mostly obsolete [10:58] schestowitz-TR so they don't need to worry about paper distribution as much [10:58] schestowitz-TR social control media is already rotting away, which I am extremely happy to see [10:58] schestowitz-TR turns out, selling sex for being on a platform is a thing now (FBInstagram/OnlyFans) [10:58] Techrights-sec2 I too get the impression that it was not fully thought out and that the [10:58] Techrights-sec2 coding started far too soon and got ahead of the planning [10:58] Techrights-sec2 ack [10:58] Techrights-sec2 there have been several articles over the months about at least one instance ● Jul 03 [11:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:01] schestowitz-TR a lot of it is connections, not sex. Like Trump spewinfg out Twitetr ToS violations every day for 4 years minus 2 weeks as POTUS [11:01] schestowitz-TR blockchains are very dumb to hype up [11:01] schestowitz-TR they're not even a new thing [11:01] schestowitz-TR maybe the term is [11:01] schestowitz-TR they do the same with "HEY HI" [11:01] schestowitz-TR "ML" is very very old [11:01] schestowitz-TR "clown" is just "mainframe" [11:01] schestowitz-TR 1950s? [11:05] schestowitz-TR sorry to be going off in a tangent, but while you were afk and this buffer was already full of info on TM BD I did not wantg [11:05] schestowitz-TR to add more re the closure of newsrooms (100 a year in the US) due to "recession" (downplaying severity) [11:05] schestowitz-TR Netcraft shows millions of domains and sites perishing [11:05] schestowitz-TR the domain registration cartels (I pay 42 pounds every 2 years PER DOMAIN) have probably given people qualm [11:05] schestowitz-TR about saying online. Those are not servers but WEB servers and domains. [11:05] schestowitz-TR I can probably still find online the old BBC program (maybe predates Gates bribes) on how the Web had become too [11:05] schestowitz-TR centralised, with the lion's share of traffic going into few "masters" [11:05] schestowitz-TR in the past 3-4 years there were talks about making data portable across sites, but that was alwats limited to GAFAM [11:05] schestowitz-TR as is http/spfy (/3) is de factor bus for "clown" and "social control media" and "webapps" [11:06] schestowitz-TR *as if ... de facto [11:14] schestowitz-TR we rianne and I work just a 40-hour block (weekend+break), I will probably code more towards things that I think [11:14] schestowitz-TR help tackle at least some of these issues, at least for our own use. The fight for "Linux" was already 'won' [11:14] schestowitz-TR (or lost, seeing what LF does to the name and where ChromeOS goes), but many concurrent issues are intact [11:14] schestowitz-TR I think that after being enamoured w/ social control media federated, dweb, freesw) I realise promoting [11:14] schestowitz-TR a [11:14] schestowitz-TR hive of many irc networks would be a lot better. IRCNow (from FSF/LibrePlanet) work towards this too [11:29] schestowitz-TR ====== [11:29] schestowitz-TR in case scrollback was short and went outside it [11:29] schestowitz-TR I've just attempted to contact ircnow, using 3 different networks of theirs [11:29] schestowitz-TR but all of them deny entry except for particular usernames [11:29] schestowitz-TR how odd! [11:29] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:29] Techrights-sec2 interesting [11:32] schestowitz-TR evern "bsdforall" [11:32] schestowitz-TR irc is vastly easier to maintain and to use than pleroma, mastodon, and diaspora [11:32] schestowitz-TR it also obviates the need for "instant messaging" or "texting" [11:32] schestowitz-TR there are "apps" for IRC, have been for well over a decade [11:32] schestowitz-TR pleroma, mastodon, and diaspora [11:32] schestowitz-TR =running a WEB server [11:32] schestowitz-TR irc [11:32] schestowitz-TR =1980s-friendly [11:33] Techrights-sec2 interesting [11:33] Techrights-sec2 one things which can be added to the list of possible topics to write about [11:33] Techrights-sec2 is the importance of the decentralized nature of IRC and that one positive [11:33] Techrights-sec2 aspect of the Leenode mess was that an increased number of communities chose [11:33] Techrights-sec2 then to run their own IRC networks [11:33] schestowitz-TR the sorts of discussions/debate you get in irc are not possible to have in social control media [11:33] schestowitz-TR or the "comments" section of a blog [11:33] schestowitz-TR those are not comparable [11:35] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:37] schestowitz-TR as you note, many new domains are snubbed by gulag (>90% of the search market) while it pews out TWEETS as [11:37] schestowitz-TR search [sic] results for important topics [11:37] schestowitz-TR it's certainly geared towards particular outcomes [11:37] schestowitz-TR Twiutter is prefiltered, both on the membership level and moderation level [11:37] schestowitz-TR but NEVER on the basis of factuality [11:37] schestowitz-TR I was trying to access 3 networks of IRC Now to establish some framework for collaboration [11:37] schestowitz-TR but I cannot even get in, I've tried many things [11:37] schestowitz-TR (I barely use email anymore, not much outgoing mail anyway) [11:38] Techrights-sec2 true, it prioritizes hearsay (tweets) over published content [11:39] schestowitz-TR in june 2022 netcraft observed almost 10 million sites DE-registered [11:39] schestowitz-TR let me check when the decreases started [11:39] schestowitz-TR this might be a subject worth researching and reporting on [11:39] schestowitz-TR just writing a lot of text is pointless if you say nothing new [11:42] schestowitz "Cloudflare experienced strong growth this month, gaining 2.99 million sites and 85,000 domains, representing a 4.64% growth in its number of sites. Cloudflare experienced a significant outage on 21 June, impacting around half of the total requests made to its network. The outage lasted around an hour and a half and affected a significant number of popular sites. 20.2% of the million most visited sites rely on Cloudflare (up 1,400 sites since [11:42] schestowitz last month)." [11:49] schestowitz-TR March, April, May, June = loss of about 20 million Web sites [11:49] schestowitz-TR Feb was gain [11:49] schestowitz-TR jan a loss [11:49] schestowitz-TR it peaked 5 years ago [11:49] schestowitz-TR I'm going to make charts on this [11:49] schestowitz-TR and will show you in the draft [11:49] schestowitz-TR I started taking screesshots [11:49] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:49] Techrights-sec2 the loss peaked or the number of unique domains? [11:49] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Jul 03 [12:26] Techrights-sec2 checking [12:26] Techrights-sec2 many of the "local" papers in the US are shells held by a national company [12:26] Techrights-sec2 specializing not in gathering local news but in pumping out an agenda into [12:26] Techrights-sec2 the local market [12:26] Techrights-sec2 instead [12:26] Techrights-sec2 https://miscellanynews.org/2021/04/29/opinions/the-unprecedented-consolidation-of-the-modern-media-industry-has-severe-consequences/ [12:26] Techrights-sec2 https://www.usip.org/publications/2022/06/back-basics-fixing-americas-polarized-media-landscape [12:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: miscellanynews.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://miscellanynews.org/2021/04/29/opinions/the-unprecedented-consolidation-of-the-modern-media-industry-has-severe-consequences/ ) [12:26] Techrights-sec2 https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/futureofmedia/index-us-mainstream-media-ownership [12:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usip.org | Back to the Basics: Fixing the Americas Polarized Media Landscape | United States Institute of Peace [12:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-projects.iq.harvard.edu | Index of US Mainstream Media Ownership | The Future of Media Project [12:26] Techrights-sec2 https://billmoyers.com/story/media-consolidation-should-anyone-care/ [12:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is Media Consolidation and Why Should Anyone Care? - BillMoyers [12:26] Techrights-sec2 news deserts are a thing in the US [12:35] Techrights-sec2 https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/media-stocks/big-6/ [12:35] Techrights-sec2 https://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/net/timeline.html [12:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Big 6 Media Companies | The Motley Fool [12:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pbs.org | Moyers on America . The Net @ Risk . Resources. Timeline | PBS [12:48] schestowitz-TR finalising now [12:48] schestowitz-TR not sure about you, but to me www becomes more like drawing blood out of stone [12:48] schestowitz-TR gemini is catching up [12:48] schestowitz-TR www is very big, but low s/n ratio [12:48] Techrights-sec2 yes, and most of the high profile accounts around the net, especailly those [12:48] Techrights-sec2 exploited by social control media, are quite pernicious [12:48] schestowitz-TR "infleunders" = clergy [12:49] schestowitz-TR i've put a skeletal draft [12:49] schestowitz-TR with room for change in focus, direction [12:49] schestowitz-TR finalising now [12:49] schestowitz-TR not sure about you, but to me www becomes more like drawing blood out of stone [12:49] schestowitz-TR gemini is catching up [12:49] schestowitz-TR www is very big, but low s/n ratio [12:49] schestowitz-TR "infleunders" = clergy [12:50] Techrights-sec2 basically [12:50] Techrights-sec2 or more accurately, mullahs [12:50] Techrights-sec2 since there is a predominant political aspect to "influencing" [12:50] Techrights-sec2 the entertainment part is just a carrier signal to ensure people are listening [12:50] Techrights-sec2 and then on rare occasion, to avoid burning the crowd gathered, a payload [12:50] Techrights-sec2 is delivered [12:53] schestowitz-TR many influencers [sic] get paid by ksa for musicwashing and sportwashing [12:53] schestowitz-TR you buy oil [12:53] schestowitz-TR and that helps not only putin [12:53] Techrights-sec2 https://text.npr.org/601323233 [12:53] Techrights-sec2 https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-politics-media-misinformation-7a60e1e6005c8b3b967c9ad337cb1a6a [12:53] Techrights-sec2 yep that's a prime example [12:53] Techrights-sec2 I saw some stats that without oil and other petrochemicals 24 of the moslem nations have *combined* a smaller GDP than most *tiny* counties have alone [12:53] Techrights-sec2 all they currently have is hanging on petrochemical industry [12:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Did Fake News On Facebook Help Elect Trump? Here's What We Know [12:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | Report: Social media influencers push voting misinformation | AP News [12:56] schestowitz-TR ksa unis are money laundering of sorts [12:56] schestowitz-TR ((imho) [12:56] schestowitz-TR and patent mills [12:56] schestowitz-TR via foreigners [12:56] schestowitz-TR oil patents [12:56] Techrights-sec2 for example 60% of Malaysia's total exports go to KSA [12:56] Techrights-sec2 meaning they are exceptionally dependent on that petrolchemical state [12:58] schestowitz-TR west pays ksa [12:58] schestowitz-TR ksa pays west [12:58] schestowitz-TR lobbyists etc [12:58] schestowitz-TR so both side "benefit" ● Jul 03 [13:03] schestowitz-TR buy our oil, we''l fund twitter losses [13:03] schestowitz-TR and censor critics of our agenda [13:03] Techrights-sec2 yep [13:03] Techrights-sec2 s/agenda/shared agenda/ [13:04] schestowitz-TR murica has its own women oppressing men [13:04] schestowitz-TR in gowns of black [13:04] schestowitz-TR -women-oppressing [13:04] schestowitz-TR the dash matters [13:05] Techrights-sec2 I also recall that KSA, which leads a 30-something nation alliance, defines [13:05] Techrights-sec2 "terrorism" quite differenty from the rest of the world and uses largely a [13:05] Techrights-sec2 political / religious defninition which applies to their opponents and no one [13:05] Techrights-sec2 else [13:06] Techrights-sec2 that too ● Jul 03 [14:25] schestowitz-TR draft [14:25] schestowitz-TR thorn on their side [14:25] schestowitz-TR published [14:25] schestowitz-TR I do manage to find topics, but not easily [14:25] schestowitz-TR it's more important than old activities I did ● Jul 03 [15:57] *techrights_guest|20 (~d52d6a5b@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 03 [16:06] *techrights_guest|20 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Jul 03 [19:30] schestowitz-TR lunduke now promotes "ad-free", like Larabel [19:30] schestowitz-TR better than asking for $300 (or discounted "FOR ONE DAY ONLY!") to just have a chat with him [19:30] schestowitz-TR of course it's just filling his feed with irrelevant junk [19:30] schestowitz-TR and I doubt it'll help him make a living [19:30] schestowitz-TR we're in front page of LXer now [19:30] schestowitz-TR (no, you won't notice a difference; LXer is weak) ● Jul 03 [21:07] schestowitz-TR just wated an hour in gulkagtube watching a local who abuses people and provoked them for reactions, that he then uploads [21:07] schestowitz-TR while it's not illegal per se, that reminds me how awful the Internet can make people be [21:07] schestowitz-TR some people have at least challenged him on it [21:07] schestowitz-TR gulagtube is a cesspool [21:07] schestowitz-TR it can be addictive because I know the guy (chatted a few times in town) and it shows my city [21:07] schestowitz-TR but with "proper" media this behaviour would not be tolerated [21:10] schestowitz-TR I must admit it is addictive [21:10] schestowitz-TR as I know the guy (since 2008) and it's showing places right near us (in HD) [21:10] schestowitz-TR but watching those video rewards nasty behavious [21:10] schestowitz-TR like abusing fat people, old people, mocking diables, filming heart attacks, annoying homeless people... [21:10] schestowitz-TR and then watching the local police's resources [21:10] schestowitz-TR even verbally abusing vegan activists, just to test their limits [21:11] Techrights-sec2 the shock value of "entertainment" [21:11] Techrights-sec2 :( [21:11] Techrights-sec2 or wasting their time and keeping them from important action instead [21:12] schestowitz-TR I guess I dould dub that "rockvhair-camera vigilante" [21:13] schestowitz-TR thinking that going about with a camera is the same as law enforcement [21:13] schestowitz-TR when it fact causing a lot of unnecessary scenes [21:13] schestowitz-TR "for drama" - his own words [21:13] schestowitz-TR if there was no channel, there would be none of that [21:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jhkxkj5a94mv2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:16] Techrights-sec2 ack [21:19] schestowitz-TR I could rant on [21:19] schestowitz-TR this really bothers me [21:19] schestowitz-TR I feel gulity that I watch these videos (I know all these places) [21:19] schestowitz-TR and a guy who started the thing, Danny Shine, ditched him [21:19] schestowitz-TR because he turned out to be attention-seeking provocateur [21:19] schestowitz-TR not sure how soviety can discourage this type of behaviour [21:19] schestowitz-TR provoking people isn't a crime [21:19] schestowitz-TR or anti-social behaviour [21:19] schestowitz-TR he tries to be a public nuisance and when people react he cuts it so that it's out of context [21:19] schestowitz-TR I wonder if other countries have a similar thing [21:19] schestowitz-TR he used to do this in London [21:19] schestowitz-TR in the US the cops would nail him real fast [21:19] schestowitz-TR he was arreretsed many times in the US and once in Canada, IIRC [21:19] schestowitz-TR hooked up with Alex Jones for something, at one point... [21:19] schestowitz-TR The Internet is hopeless [21:19] schestowitz-TR rant over [21:20] Techrights-sec2 perhaps [21:20] Techrights-sec2 however there are lots of examples of even more antisocial behavior in [21:20] Techrights-sec2 Youtube besides that one some even dealing in physical violence [21:21] schestowitz-TR there were some local copycats [21:21] schestowitz-TR if that spreads, the cops won't be able to focus on real crime [21:21] schestowitz-TR but manufactured (provocation) "scenes" [21:22] Techrights-sec2 Tiktok was also cultivating both vandalism and physical assault ● Jul 03 [22:23] schestowitz-TR I've just had to run repair again, also studied again the logs from the past 2 weeks, aboutn 25k entry logs [22:23] schestowitz-TR it seems like the DB is losing some old node _revisions_, not as critical as nodes themslves [22:23] schestowitz-TR to the outside it looks like things are normal, but maybe soon we should look into exporting and migrating to [22:23] schestowitz-TR avoid worse scenarios [22:23] schestowitz-TR it looks like the warnings return later in the same day that we repair [22:23] schestowitz-TR usually cach, search, and revision-related data [22:23] schestowitz-TR so those are almost disposable [22:23] schestowitz-TR but that might spread [22:23] schestowitz-TR when you repaired it last week it was block_cache, I think, based on the logs [22:48] *techrights_guest|7 (~92463172@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [22:54] *techrights_guest|7 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Jul 03 [23:16] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:57] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)