●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 03, 2021 ●● ● Dec 03 [00:16] *altlink_fbf has quit (connection closed) [00:16] *altlink_692 (~altlink_692@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [01:38] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [01:39] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [01:39] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [01:39] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~schestowi@freenode-18vdut.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP at Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 ● Dec 03 [02:09] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:25] schestowitz-TR alex gravely arrrested thius week [02:25] schestowitz-TR graveley [02:50] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [03:07] Techrights-sec2 Interesting. Link? [03:08] schestowitz-TR no link. A source. [03:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:18] Techrights-sec2 Would finding the police report be useful? [03:18] schestowitz-TR work in progress [03:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [04:10] Techrights-sec2 Was Graveley arrested for advancing M$ agenda and promoting its products? [04:10] schestowitz-TR Much worse [04:11] schestowitz-TR psydruid: ^ [04:14] Techrights-sec2 Hmm. That would be quite bad then. [04:14] DaemonFC Another CP scandal at Microsoft? [04:14] Techrights-sec2 back in a few hours [04:14] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: no, worse [04:14] DaemonFC WHAT WHAT!? [04:14] schestowitz-TR I can't say yet [04:14] DaemonFC Did he murder someone? [04:14] schestowitz-TR we need the police records to be sure [04:14] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: almost [04:57] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 03 [06:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 03 [07:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:07] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:20] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [08:16] *altlink_692 has quit (connection closed) [08:16] *altlink_290 (~altlink_290@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 03 [09:44] *activelow (~activelow@34jdhd8p8q4vk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [10:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6izh8d4uc8mk4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [11:03] schestowitz-TR same [11:03] schestowitz-TR though will be in and out of earshot for some hours later [11:03] Techrights-sec2 same [11:03] Techrights-sec2 though will be in and out of earshot for some hours later [11:03] schestowitz-TR what stepos are still required to make the gemini IRC pages serve gemtext instead of txt? I fell behind today due to work and errants outside [11:03] schestowitz-TR errands [11:05] Techrights-sec2 mostly just hard (or sym) linking to the .txt with the .gmi names, then [11:05] Techrights-sec2 after that it is just a matter of between 1 and 5 lines in the generation script [11:06] schestowitz-TR If I understand correctly, you want to link to the text files but make it seem like they have another extension, or have two links, with two names to each file, then serve these [11:07] schestowitz-TR file1.txt, file1.gmi, where file1.txt is symlink to file1.txt and file1.gmi is also symlink to file1.txt [11:09] Techrights-sec2 (connecting to the RPi via SSH takes a long time at the moment [11:09] Techrights-sec2 /home/gemini/gemini/tr_text_version has the .txt files which can be linked as [11:09] Techrights-sec2 .gmi [11:09] Techrights-sec2 ln file01.txt file01.gmi [11:09] Techrights-sec2 symlinks not necessary hard links are ok. then they are the exact same file [11:09] Techrights-sec2 but with multiple names [11:09] schestowitz-TR isee [11:12] Techrights-sec2 symbolic links have the advantage that there are in-your-face obviously links [11:12] Techrights-sec2 hardlinks can only be noticed by checking the inodes / number of links [11:13] schestowitz-TR if I understand correcctly, old gemini links, with txt, would still be in tact,, soo nothingn of the old will be [11:13] schestowitz-TR made "page not found" [11:13] Techrights-sec2 correct [11:13] Techrights-sec2 hardlinking is just adding another name to an existing file [11:15] Techrights-sec2 symbolic linking is just adding a pointer, however agate seems to choke on them [11:15] schestowitz-TR ack [11:15] schestowitz-TR one metric of interest, e.g. in ,lupa, is how many capsules just serve old crap like txt and worse... as opposed [11:15] schestowitz-TR to what gemini was actually made for. the ratio is better when gmi is the norm [11:15] schestowitz-TR when I click on gopher links it often pains me that I struggle to navigate [11:18] schestowitz-TR it is a good think gmi is made very readable even without parsing/interpreting/randering, so a plain text file w [11:18] schestowitz-TR ith gmi is still looking OK [11:20] Techrights-sec2 yes [11:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:34] Techrights-sec2 the .txt name is not needed, the old pages could be modified to point to [11:34] Techrights-sec2 .gmi instead and then your script modified to produce only .gmi [11:34] Techrights-sec2 Or it could stay the same and then each time a .txt is produced a hardlink [11:34] Techrights-sec2 named .gmi created. [11:34] schestowitz-TR yesthe older files do not have gemtext formatting, so better leave references to them unchanged, maybe...? [11:37] Techrights-sec2 Technicaly that is still Gemtext but witout headings and links only [11:37] schestowitz-TR true, but that gives a wrong expectation [11:43] Techrights-sec2 $ time find ~/gemini/tr_text_version/ -type f -name '*.txt' -exec sh -c 'grep -q "#" {} || echo {}' \; [11:43] Techrights-sec2 real 0m15.902s [11:43] Techrights-sec2 user 0m9.881s [11:43] Techrights-sec2 sys 0m5.286s [11:43] Techrights-sec2 no non-gemtext .txt files found [11:45] Techrights-sec2 oops. wrong pattern [11:45] schestowitz-TR yes [11:45] schestowitz-TR you got me confused there for a sec [11:45] schestowitz-TR so I went and checked the capsule [11:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [12:00] psydruid now he can rename Tomboy to Jailedboy [12:01] psydruid or Prisonboy [12:02] schestowitz-TR :-) [12:02] schestowitz-TR wait for mugshots [12:02] schestowitz-TR copilot has landed... IN PRISON [12:04] Techrights-sec2 working on right pattern [12:04] Techrights-sec2 ok I misunderstood, there is no Gemtext markup anywhere, but plain text content [12:04] Techrights-sec2 is still valid for Gemtext so it works out anyway. A way to label the file [12:04] Techrights-sec2 with .gmi suffix is needed for Agate since it goes by filename. [12:04] schestowitz-TR yes, exactly [12:04] schestowitz-TR tested wioth testing.txt, amfoa and lagrange [12:17] Techrights-sec2 in and out for the next few hours now [12:17] schestowitz-TR 0/ [12:21] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@qb3hy9zh9p2dy.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:46] schestowitz-TR was thinking while in kitchen ...... 1) would it be worth adding to irc logs in gmi the links in a clickable form? 2) it a way that make them seem 'compatible' with the txt version 3) with existing code written for blog posts? ● Dec 03 [13:00] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:02] Techrights-sec2 The IRC log summaries have links: [13:02] Techrights-sec2 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/02/irc-log-011221/ [13:02] Techrights-sec2 or do you mean in these: [13:02] Techrights-sec2 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-011221.txt [13:04] schestowitz yes, so the round round circles can become # and ## [13:04] schestowitz and for a given line, e.g. [13:04] schestowitz [roy] blah [link] and [another links] [13:04] schestowitz that becomes: [13:04] schestowitz [roy] blah [link] and [another links] [13:04] schestowitz => link [13:04] schestowitz => another link [13:07] Techrights-sec2 Yes, that's easy to do with sed or awk but would create additional files, [13:07] Techrights-sec2 taking double the space. [13:07] Techrights-sec2 And in effect having multiple versions of the same content. If the new [13:07] Techrights-sec2 files could have # in front of the circle and ## in front of the double circles [13:07] Techrights-sec2 then that would probably be adequately readable in plain text too [13:07] schestowitz-TR true [13:09] schestowitz-TR do you think hosting from home (various aspects) merits some videos? There are aspects of it not covered yet, but we're still exploting. the latest tc version if top notch. [13:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:09] schestowitz-TR *is [13:11] Techrights-sec2 excellent. I notice there is delay at the start of each SSH connection but [13:11] Techrights-sec2 as far as I can tell it is not due to tc. [13:11] Techrights-sec2 Shall tc-shaper-07.sh go into git as tc-shaper.sh now? [13:11] schestowitz-TR yes, I don't want to risk breaking what works OK now [13:11] Techrights-sec2 ok [13:12] schestowitz btw, irc network keeps growing https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights [13:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [13:13] Techrights-sec2 ok it's in git now; sometime, not soon, it needs to be fitted for nft instead [13:13] Techrights-sec2 of iptables [13:13] Techrights-sec2 bbiab [13:33] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:33] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:41] *hyperreal has quit (Quit: am leaving for now) [13:42] *hyperreal (~hyperreal@uwig9nz6889zi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [14:12] Techrights-sec2 Excellent. What happened to freenode was not good, but it looks like people [14:12] Techrights-sec2 are realizing how vulnerable centralization makes things and are doing [14:12] Techrights-sec2 something to fix it. [14:13] schestowitz-TR [13:14:29] Another new #IRC network has made the cut. Self-hosting and decentrsalisation on the rise!! https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant [14:13] schestowitz-TR [13:14:30] [TechrightsBot-tr] netsplit.de | NO TITLE [14:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [14:15] Techrights-sec2 Excellent. I wish the tech "press" woud pick up on this trend. It is [14:15] Techrights-sec2 important in many ways and for many reasons. [14:16] schestowitz-TR lol. 'tech' 'press'. at the moment I see rms still shilling billgates via his 'press'... same for Omidyar's. But I don't want to be interpreted as attacking RMS. I mentioned this to him over a decade ago. [14:19] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you later) [14:25] Techrights-sec2 I'm concerned about RMS in that regard. He is a specialist in some areas [14:25] Techrights-sec2 and a world leader in a subset of those. However, indirectly promoting patents [14:25] Techrights-sec2 llike that indirectly promotes sw patents which undoes some of the fine work [14:25] Techrights-sec2 he has accomplished. [14:25] Techrights-sec2 Grauniad covers a small handful of topics well and conscientiously to provide [14:25] Techrights-sec2 cover for the drivel and propaganda they pump out on the other topics. [14:25] Techrights-sec2 Vaccines and health are not among those they cover well, for reasons you've just [14:25] Techrights-sec2 pointed out. [14:25] Techrights-sec2 I wonder how much pre-trial negitiation has gone on to try to ensure that [14:25] Techrights-sec2 bill does not get named during any of the testimony or cross examinations. [14:26] schestowitz-TR he refuses to realise he became an unwilling Gates megaphone [14:26] schestowitz-TR Even when I gave him examples [14:26] schestowitz-TR hhe had invested decades of his life in this paper [14:26] schestowitz-TR even as author and commenter [14:26] schestowitz-TR he even told me the new editor was once again more open to inpput, unlike prior ones [14:31] schestowitz-TR for now, 40% of the time stallman.org is a traffic funnel for Bill's rag in the UK [14:33] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@km3w6imixyp52.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:33] schestowitz-TR because of this, years ago when I spoke to RMS about Assange (after arrest IIRC) he said Julian had deservd it, [14:33] schestowitz-TR or something to that effect [14:33] schestowitz-TR actually, iirc it was befroe the arrest... when Micah Lee (Omidyar salaries) attacked Assange regularly [14:33] Techrights-sec2 yes, they were one of the sites that attacked JA the most [14:34] schestowitz-TR and last week daemon and I were still awed by the RMS post citing Olidyar's Intercept-For-The-State saying inflation is actually GOOD [14:37] Techrights-sec2 they built up a false, but highly negative narrative around him [14:37] Techrights-sec2 :( [14:37] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure of the real purpose of The Intercept nor about Greenwald. [14:37] Techrights-sec2 However, it sure looks like one of the main goals if not on of the main purposes [14:37] Techrights-sec2 was to corner the market on Snowden's material and quietly dispose of it [14:37] Techrights-sec2 and get it out of public discourse. That and they hung several out to dry, such [14:37] Techrights-sec2 as Reality Winner and the others. [14:38] schestowitz-TR Laura GOODPoitrias [14:38] schestowitz-TR spelling [14:38] schestowitz-TR they can capture key people and 'convert' them with the money [14:38] schestowitz-TR See Chelsea Manning on Greenwald [14:38] Techrights-sec2 Yes. But manning gets ignored these days and has kind of committed self-goals [14:38] Techrights-sec2 a few times. [14:39] schestowitz very good article: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/24/glenn-greenwald-is-not-your-misunderstood-left-comrade/ [14:39] -altlink_290/#boycottnovell- Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/24/glenn-greenwald-is-not-your-misunderstood-left-comrade/ [14:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.counterpunch.org | Glenn Greenwald is Not Your Misunderstood Left Comrade - CounterPunch.org [14:42] Techrights-sec2 ack [14:42] Techrights-sec2 Yes, I saw that one back a few months ago. [14:44] schestowitz-TR modus (note to self, crude) [14:44] schestowitz-TR they put in capital [14:44] schestowitz-TR they identify who needs to be sucked in [14:44] schestowitz-TR if they cannot cancel or scare them [14:44] schestowitz-TR then they get them to: [14:44] schestowitz-TR 1) discredit selves or [14:44] schestowitz-TR 2) change their tune [14:44] schestowitz-TR KGB and CPC love putting force confessions on tape, in the West it is more subtale [14:44] schestowitz-TR Glenn and de Icaza found brazil and millions of dollard, monetising their sellout [14:45] Techrights-sec2 yes. [14:46] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you later) [14:54] Techrights-sec2 deicaza was a sellout from day one. he was always trying tu undermine foss [14:54] Techrights-sec2 and sucking up to redmond. m$ has never been a leader in technology yet [14:54] Techrights-sec2 deicaza wanted to cease development and advancement, turn around, and get [14:54] Techrights-sec2 behind m$ and follow it instead of advancing. Even back in the "Rebel Code" days [14:54] Techrights-sec2 he comes across as a dickhead [14:54] Techrights-sec2 back i na bit ● Dec 03 [15:10] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@rjkzwfr2m827w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:13] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl, moving data to another drive) [15:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:52] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/yuhong2/status/1466691694636662784#m [15:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "SATA SSDs dates back to around the time when even Techrights/Boycott Novell used to have Google ads." | nitter ● Dec 03 [16:18] *altlink_290 has quit (connection closed) [16:18] *altlink_99a (~altlink_99a@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [17:17] schestowitz https://twitter.com/HAX/status/1466699168383180800 [17:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HAX: @schestowitz The same people who demand draconian IP rules when it profits themselves? [17:17] schestowitz https://twitter.com/OhnemusN/status/1466766567794872320 [17:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OhnemusN: @schestowitz Ugh wtf is this bs [17:17] schestowitz https://twitter.com/TomFran45400947/status/1466768488870121476 [17:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TomFran45400947: @OhnemusN @schestowitz An uninformed clown.. [17:18] schestowitz https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1466429024956203011 [17:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@liztormato: #rakulang https://t.co/WbpD8CxzA3 [17:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "While reading Arne`s solution for Challenge #140.2, I spotted a nested simple loop." https://t.co/DjcDVbxnik #Programming #Raku [17:19] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/liztormato/status/1466429024956203011 [17:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Elizabeth Mattijsen (@liztormato): "#rakulang" | nitter [17:19] schestowitz
  • Augustia (@Augustia0017): "Bill Gates Controlling Media, Education, World Health Organization with Multiple ties to Epstein & Media Mogul Rupert Murdoch? RUPERT MURDOCH PART OF CIA & #MilitaryIndustrialComplex? https://www.michaelwest.com.au/white-mans-media-rupert-murdoch-and-the-us-imperium/ http://techrights.org/2012&# [17:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/Augustia0017/status/1466767439803281411">Augustia ) [17:19] schestowitz x2F;02/01/control-over-the-minds/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/MJAa6lyEnCCR" | nitter
    [17:19] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Firefly_fan/status/1466716872951439362 [17:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Firefly_fan: Hemos estado GAFAdos por Microsoft? https://t.co/iyUPyEoXfQ [17:19] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights ● Dec 03 [18:14] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:14] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:24] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:32] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:32] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [19:20] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [19:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:57] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:57] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 03 [20:02] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:04] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Dec 03 [21:31] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:31] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:37] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow) [21:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:51] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:56] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:57] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [23:16] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:16] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:18] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:19] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #boycottnovell