●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 03, 2022 ●● ● Dec 03 [01:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [06:25] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Dec 03 [07:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [10:22] Techrightssec Their decision to fold was made a few years ago around the time of the m$ NDA. [10:22] Techrightssec The bringing in of malicious + incompetent managers was a second, severe blow. [10:22] Techrightssec However, the final blow was the outsourcing: without reasons for competent [10:22] Techrightssec people to stick around, they leave. When they leave, the remaining compentent [10:22] Techrightssec people have an insufficiently large pool of peers with which to work with [10:22] Techrightssec and at that point start looking for better work. [10:22] schestowitz-TR yes, one key colleague was very unhappy about the outsourcing and later left [10:22] schestowitz-TR they ripped apart internal infra [10:23] Techrightssec Outsourcing, especially of core activities, leads quickly to a death spiral. [10:23] Techrightssec Or so it has looked in all the cases which have been published which I have [10:23] Techrightssec read so far. I'd go as far as to say that even peripheral activities might [10:23] Techrightssec be safer handled in house as far as the question of staffing goes. The [10:23] Techrightssec problem there is that it can lead to too high a head count. That can be a real [10:23] Techrightssec thing not just the fake problem that MBAs have when there remain any on the [10:23] Techrightssec payroll at all. [10:23] Techrightssec Without an internal infrastructure, there is no real company any more. :/ ● Dec 03 [11:08] schestowitz-TR correct me if I am mistakenlyy [11:08] schestowitz-TR the qualys report deals with several bugs [11:08] schestowitz-TR 3 IIRC? [11:08] schestowitz-TR I noticed they mention "included by default in Ubuntu" [11:08] schestowitz-TR and noted that in Daily Links [11:08] schestowitz-TR but are all flaws connected to Ubuntu/Snap? [11:08] schestowitz-TR Is Debian affected by any of them? [11:08] schestowitz-TR first they called GNU "Linux" [11:08] schestowitz-TR then same for systemd (when it suited the FUD) [11:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@a9wf8v67hqmqg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [12:02] Techrightssec checking [12:02] Techrightssec Debian does not use snap [12:02] Techrightssec multipathd is outside of my experience [12:02] Techrightssec but snapd is not used in Debian by default [12:02] Techrightssec It might be available for installation though [12:07] schestowitz-TR truthout has begun showing wrong titles again [12:07] schestowitz-TR maybe they altered things again [12:07] schestowitz-TR for 2 days in a row now [12:07] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:13] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:13] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@3f4eq2qd8h8ka.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:18] Techrightssec checking [12:18] Techrightssec I can't see anything off with a spot check. Can you show the URL for [12:18] Techrightssec a broken page? [12:23] schestowitz-TR (NEW): Leaving Canonical, again http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/03/Leaving_Canonical_again.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/03/Leaving_Canonical_again.gmi [12:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Leaving Canonical, again [12:24] schestowitz-TR accuses management of being liars [12:24] schestowitz-TR see "merged" under truthout [12:24] schestowitz-TR same today and yesterday [12:25] schestowitz-TR truthout seems to have shuffled around the title element, so the program takes the wrong page element [12:27] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [14:19] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 03 [15:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:15] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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