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| techrights[sec] | ack | Mar 04 00:26 |
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| techrights[sec] | otr: repeat: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/cyber-resilience-act | Mar 04 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu | Cyber Resilience Act | Shaping Europe’s digital future | Mar 04 00:26 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> Layoffs at DailyFail ☞ https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/mail-mail-on-sunday-closer-together-redundancies/ | Mar 04 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pressgazette.co.uk | Mail and Mail on Sunday to be ‘much closer together’; redundancies proposed | Mar 04 01:43 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | db <techrights-news> Sharp rise in psychiatric diagnoses among young people after the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic ☞ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/23058-sharp-rise-in-psychiatric-diagnoses-among-young-people-after-the-first-wave-of-the-covid-19-pandemic.html | Mar 04 02:17 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR]: Cantrell did seem less abnormal in 2016, but there were many warning signs already. He would have been 18 at the time. | Mar 04 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | Hadn't done so many drugs yet, before he got COVID. | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i see | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 2019? | Mar 04 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2016. | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | maybe the mind went "off" | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i read about it todsy | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | or yesterday rather | Mar 04 02:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | brain damage | Mar 04 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-pi2: I'd say he went from borderline personality disorder to paranoid schizophrenia. | Mar 04 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | From his overall style of writing and the subject matter. | Mar 04 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's common for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia to emerge in early 20s after many other diagnoses. | Mar 04 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | In childhood he says they gave him Ritalin for ADHD. | Mar 04 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | He keeps insisting he's straight and that he likes women, but every time he pays to have sex with one, he can't finish. | Mar 04 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | And he keeps making this odd statements about "gays". | Mar 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-03-02/fatal-high-school-stabbing-stuns-california-winery-community | Mar 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | I think he was trying not to be gay by forcing himself to have sex with women and actively deny it. | Mar 04 03:00 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | there can be simpler explanations | Mar 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | unless you have evidence men turn him on | Mar 04 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt there's anything in there to that effect. | Mar 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ok then.. | Mar 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | He had a verbal spat with his neighbor a few years ago. Said he can't stand gay people. | Mar 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | His neighbor was apparently gay. | Mar 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Had a complaint. | Mar 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so your theory is weakened | Mar 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Ever see the ending of American Beauty? | Mar 04 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | The homophobe next door turned out to be gay and shot Kevin Spacey's character in the head in the end over rejection. | Mar 04 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/ | Mar 04 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.scientificamerican.com | Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals - Scientific American | Mar 04 03:11 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | "might" | Mar 04 03:38 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | I watched American Beauty as a teenager | Mar 04 03:38 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and don't remember the ending | Mar 04 03:38 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | anyway, movies are not facts | Mar 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | workflow with one full refresh per day is... refreshing! | Mar 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | less for me to go over a second time around | Mar 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> DANIEL STENBERG needs to bring these CLOSER TOGETHER to be productive. Sliding on a chair from one computer to another is not efficient. https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/03/my-hacker-station/ | Mar 04 06:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-My hacker station | daniel.haxx.se | Mar 04 06:30 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | just counted: on 9 screens i have 20 terminals visible, 9 IRC windows,2 kate, 1 browser... actually 4 kate | Mar 04 06:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | same session with 3 windows. the rest is dictionary (rarely used), audacious, large clock, 4 or 5 panels | Mar 04 06:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but terminals are predominant | Mar 04 06:35 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | in local:/tmp | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | I've just put an example of the file I work with, aside from 09.xxx | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i think there may be room for code reuse, let me explain: | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in merged you do a link-wise comparison between current day and prior day | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then it culls thee duplicates 'forward' | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in the sense that the newer occurence gets removed | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in my case, i set cutoff to 48 hours | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | if I refresh once a day | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then it'll be good to be able to do the same with feedlist.html and feedlist2.html | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but the formats for these files are less consistent | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | that would save time because, atm, i have to manually check where the threshold is | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | for stuff I saw the prior day | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | if done properly the file can be halved in size, assuming current day and prior day are about the same | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in total volume | Mar 04 09:08 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in firefox i get some help from the URLs turning purple if I opened them before (or in falkon) | Mar 04 09:08 |
| techrights[sec] | Yes, the current mechanism is to rely on the links being purple by the browser | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | Only the browser can track if the links have been visited or not. | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | The -merged files are over on tr-new anyway and not really practical to | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | keep scanning | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | from a distance | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | On the other hand, the -d option could be used to shorten the time span to | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | one day from two. | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | ./rrrrr.py -d $(date -d '1 day ago' +'%F') -o x.html | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | Currently there is a defualt action which is to scan and then print to stdout | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | Should the default to be to show the help text instead and the -o option become | Mar 04 09:31 |
| techrights[sec] | required for output? | Mar 04 09:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> Overpopulation tackled. "he current birth rate is 1.34 per a woman, which is below the 2.07 that's necessary to keep the population stable." No, a country remaining OVER-populated is not stability ("stable"). Equilibrium is vastly lower than present. ☛ https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/japans-population-crisis-worsens-women-choose-career-over-marriage-while-many-opt-not-have-kids-1713623 | Source: International Business Times | Mar 04 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Japan's population crisis worsens as women choose career over marriage, while many opt not to have kids | Mar 04 09:34 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ombg,sky is falling, we might not reach 10 billion humans. we are doomed! | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the html xslt is fine as it is | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i am trying to think how to speed up, by means of reducing repetition in the vast files | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | like the one I added to /tmp | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | sort and uniq don't work well for this type of file | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | still thinking... | Mar 04 09:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ok, i've mentally reduce the scale of the task to this: | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | for file x and y, in file y remove all lines identical to something in x | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | not sure is o(n) algo exists for that | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | those files are quite big | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | diff makes assumptions about order of lines | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ans sortruins the order of the original | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | *and sort() ruins | Mar 04 09:39 |
| techrights[sec] | The carrying capacity of the planet is exceeded by about double, and to make | Mar 04 09:39 |
| techrights[sec] | matters worse the way the global population is acting that carrying capacity | Mar 04 09:39 |
| techrights[sec] | is /decreasing/ while at the same time the population grows. | Mar 04 09:39 |
| techrights[sec] | xmlstarlet can help in some simple cases | Mar 04 09:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | should i check rss_since.pl for some example of how it's done there? (the dupe reover) | Mar 04 09:42 |
| techrights[sec] | links-de-duplicate.pl or links-find-duplicates.pl | Mar 04 09:44 |
| techrights[sec] | if the hash were made into a tied hash, the values would persist over time | Mar 04 09:44 |
| techrights[sec] | across runs, but I'm not sure how far that can scale. | Mar 04 09:44 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so I'm thinking... | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | one day I make file y | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | another x | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | alternating | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and then | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | make a persistent copy of each | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | cull what's in the prior | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | or mark it somehow | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i used to wonder, for years already, how I would program a clustering of related stories in the large pool | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | e.g. give me a list of all the stories about the new Fedora release | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | while not adding too much complexity, which raises cost of maintaining the "logic" | Mar 04 09:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | filters in quiterss were limited/limiting | Mar 04 09:49 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the sooner I "solve" this problem, the less time I will waste doing it manually with human errors | Mar 04 09:49 |
| techrights[sec] | I can take a look some time over the coming days | Mar 04 09:49 |
| techrights[sec] | Using the -d option with rrrrr.py will reduce the amount of redundancy. | Mar 04 09:49 |
| techrights[sec] | The difficulty would be assigning relevant key words for indexing. | Mar 04 09:49 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the code you wrote is super-useful, I use it all the time | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | my own version of it serves another purpose | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | making the full html exposed, organised by feed, and ready to add with one mouse click (which triggers | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | a chain of actions) | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | my barriers atm (that take time): | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | trimming/editing the quoted text | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | trimming trash from the URL sometimes | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | trimming <img> and other unwanted bits | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | changing headings to <h6> inside blockquotes | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | cluster related stories | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | avoid seeing (again) stuff I saw in prior days (usually up to a day earlier, as cutoff is 48 hrs) | Mar 04 09:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | those things can make a big difference to focus and productivity and can evolve over time (they already do) | Mar 04 09:57 |
| techrights[sec] | ./rrrrr.py -d $(date -d '1 day ago' +'%F') -o x.html | Mar 04 10:02 |
| techrights[sec] | Clustering is harder without using some massive LLM or something | Mar 04 10:02 |
| techrights[sec] | That is because articles can be about something or very relevant to something | Mar 04 10:02 |
| techrights[sec] | without actually naming that thing even once. | Mar 04 10:02 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/04/Linux_Magazine_s_New_Issue.shtml | Mar 04 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux Magazine's New Issue | Mar 04 10:46 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | this was genertaed by the script | Mar 04 10:46 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | grep "date" 09.html | sort | sed -e "s/a hre/li><h5><a hre/" -e "s/<\/a>/<\/a><\/h5><\/li>/" | Mar 04 10:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | chedking.. | Mar 04 10:48 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i see now | Mar 04 10:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it would be good to use yours as the authrative list, wiuth culling | Mar 04 10:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then the other file is just a cheat to get into full body | Mar 04 10:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | by scanning the same url | Mar 04 10:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | chedking.. | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i see now | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it would be good to use yours as the authrative list, wiuth culling | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then the other file is just a cheat to get into full body | Mar 04 10:56 |
| techrights[sec] | It might be doable in the CSS. | Mar 04 10:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Please have a try and then I can tweak it if necessary and after a few rounds | Mar 04 10:56 |
| techrights[sec] | it should be reasonable on all screens concerned. | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | by scanning the same url | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | datestamps can be a plus | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in Daily Links | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | if not distracting | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | can add style to <date>, e.g. smaller or dimmer | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | span.date | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | let me have a go at this, biab | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yes, the css | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | wanna add it or will i, via git? | Mar 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | kk | Mar 04 10:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Seems a little complicated, visually. Perhaps it can be streamlined more? | Mar 04 11:21 |
| techrights[sec] | The ovals XOR the bullets? | Mar 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/04/Linux_Magazine_s_New_Issue.shtml | Mar 04 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Linux Magazine's New Issue | Mar 04 11:21 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | froce-refresh/hard-refresh+crtrl+f5 typically | Mar 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | TR can inherit some similar styling, as those propagate onto there, too | Mar 04 11:21 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | many of the links won't have a date, only some will | Mar 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | I'm open to any changes you see fit | Mar 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the selector is good enough for firefox esr and for falkon | Mar 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | did not check other browsers | Mar 04 11:22 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | rianne just saw this mockup | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and said ok | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but her links will likely have no date field | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | because her workflow is very different | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | she also uses some scripts i made | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | my current thinking is something crude and all-over-the-place, but | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | check the outline, put in tandem with full html file | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so there is an option for each given link to get its 'expanded' version | Mar 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | this would solve several existing pitfalls in one fell swoop | Mar 04 11:26 |
| techrights[sec] | The H5 within the LI really seems to mess up the layout | Mar 04 11:27 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | h5 in ls very old legacy of daily links | Mar 04 11:27 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | going liek 15 years back | Mar 04 11:27 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | *in LI | Mar 04 11:27 |
| techrights[sec] | Can it be dropped? | Mar 04 11:27 |
| techrights[sec] | ... at least in the new site(s) ? | Mar 04 11:27 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | changing it might imperil some scripts that currently scan for that | Mar 04 11:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so there would be debt | Mar 04 11:29 |
| techrights[sec] | Not necessarilly a loss in the tm-new. It would be useful to cull that | Mar 04 11:29 |
| techrights[sec] | going forward, even if it is left for a while longer in tr-old | Mar 04 11:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it might complicate the TM->TR workflow | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so I'd say, let's do one step at a time | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | btw, cnet has many layoffs | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the terrain for online news changes very fast | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | now with new "journalism" or "save journalism" laws/bills | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and rianne and I spoke this morning about how awful it is to open "news sites" | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | having to deal with browser level and page-level popups, paywalls, cookies, JS (blockers being blocked etc.) | Mar 04 11:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so to make the web readable a lot of "processing" is required | Mar 04 11:31 |
| techrights[sec] | The more cruft which carries in from the one site to the other, the greater | Mar 04 11:32 |
| techrights[sec] | the messs to clean up later ... technical debt as it is called. Yes, usability | Mar 04 11:32 |
| techrights[sec] | is ignore on those sites, I'm not sure what their intentions are at all. | Mar 04 11:32 |
| techrights[sec] | That makes any efforts towards usability on tm-new stand out that much more. | Mar 04 11:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | roy@vonick:~/rss-tools$ grep "date" 09.html | sort | sed -e "s/a hre/li><h5><a hre/" -e "s/<\/a>/<\/a><\/h5><\/li>/" | head | Mar 04 11:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <li><h5><a href="http://adam.younglogic.com/2023/03/hello-world-in-rust-on-arm64-includes-a-lot-of-code/"><span class="date">2023-03-02</span> Adam Young: Hello World in rust on ARM64 includes a lot of code </a></h5></li> | Mar 04 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-adam.younglogic.com | Hello World in rust on ARM64 includes a lot of code | Adam Young's Web Log | Mar 04 11:36 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <li><h5><a href="http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/guest-post-nft-hermes-case-mainly.html"><span class="date">2023-03-02</span> [Guest post] The NFT Hermés Case: Mainly Relevant for Large Collection of NFTs </a></h5></li> | Mar 04 11:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] The NFT Hermés Case: Mainly Relevant for Large Collection of NFTs - The IPKat | Mar 04 11:36 | |
| schestowitz-pi2 | aye. | Mar 04 11:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | thinking or 'brain'storming | Mar 04 11:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | mostly the workflow | Mar 04 11:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | merged uses h5, so I don't want to try to solve too many problems at the same time | Mar 04 11:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | or my head won't work well | Mar 04 11:36 |
| techrights[sec] | It's easy enough to cull the H5 elements at any stage but they should not | Mar 04 11:41 |
| techrights[sec] | find their way into tm-new; search and replace works well at that level | Mar 04 11:41 |
| techrights[sec] | | sort -u | sed -e 's|...|...|;' | head | Mar 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | atm on tm-new, for lists h5 is the 'default' style | Mar 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | sorry if i am quiet for a few mins, trying to work on the new workflow a bit | Mar 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i can detect dupes against a db of all prior links in TR | Mar 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | there is a db like this on vonick | Mar 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | biab | Mar 04 11:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | lol! the CEO of Sirius has left | Mar 04 12:07 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the company is in ruins | Mar 04 12:07 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | someone just told me | Mar 04 12:08 |
| techrights[sec] | When will they file for bankruptcy? | Mar 04 12:09 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 4 things happening all at once atm | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | dad on mumble | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | colleague contacting us (lots of info) | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | match across the road starting (loud) | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and i try to work out the best way to digest news/links | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | rianne is lol'ing a lot (because of the news) | Mar 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | maybe i will stay up till 7pm to get ahead | Mar 04 12:25 |
| techrights[sec] | ok | Mar 04 12:30 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> When social control media crashes and burns people will be back to speaking their native tongue, not "Algospeak" and "Hashtagish". Writing for fucking algorithms results in awful output. | Mar 04 13:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | pushed to TR git | Mar 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | as a sort of placeholder | Mar 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i realise nano on tr-old is not good at unicode | Mar 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it is saved ok but displayed poorly | Mar 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | now back to the links | Mar 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | am trying to sort of the pipeline | Mar 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | before wasting another week looking at two similar things in tandem :-) | Mar 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i have a 'lazyweb' type of question: from what I recall the --keep option | Mar 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | peserves stuff seen before or some such, based on a database, though i think | Mar 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the db trackswhat feeds need refreshing | Mar 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | with your latest commit, is is going to keep a "prior" version and then ensure | Mar 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | only "new since" are presented? | Mar 04 13:34 |
| techrights[sec] | --keep is for when you load a "new" OPML file, any old feeds that were in the | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | old OPML file and are also in the new OPML file will have their state retained | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | So that way you don't end up re-checking feeds when updating the OPML file. | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | Say you rearrange the feeds and make a new hierarchy but have the exact same | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | feeds. They'd just be in a different order. Then use the --keep option | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | to avoid force reloading them all as you load the new structure via the OPML | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | file. | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | I'm not sure I'm explaining it well. | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | Normally when you pass an OPML file as an argumen, the states are overwritten. | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | With --keep the OPML file will be read and any feeds which were visited | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | before via the previous OPML file will keep their state but new feeds will | Mar 04 13:50 |
| techrights[sec] | be initialized as new feeds. | Mar 04 13:50 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | this makes _perfect_ sense | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and was clear from your first paragraph | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so it does not have a concept of "read" | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the circles at top of nested branches took me a while to figure out | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | inc. their colour | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and state does not refer to read/unread | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | one thing I can do in the processing is, | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i can grep for date | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | e.g. show for anything past midnight (today) | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i'll adapt to changes over time, but it's going in a very very good direction | Mar 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i try to think where to place which windowto maximise utilisation | Mar 04 13:54 |
| techrights[sec] | Right. Only the browser tracks read or unread status. The script can | Mar 04 13:55 |
| techrights[sec] | only track fetched or not fetched. | Mar 04 13:55 |
| techrights[sec] | I wonder if -d can be set to "today" | Mar 04 13:55 |
| techrights[sec] | If so, then grep would not be needed. | Mar 04 13:55 |
| techrights[sec] | ./rrrrr.py -d $(date +'%F') -o x.html | Mar 04 13:59 |
| techrights[sec] | That should show only entries since midnight and nothing earlier | Mar 04 13:59 |
| techrights[sec] | It just occurred to me that it might be possible to use the sqlite datbase | Mar 04 14:19 |
| techrights[sec] | maintained by Firefox, but that'd be a whole other can of worms. | Mar 04 14:19 |
| techrights[sec] | It'd be a project in and of itself to try that but I'm not sure of the utility | Mar 04 14:19 |
| techrights[sec] | However, showing only entries since midnight would miss any entries the next | Mar 04 14:19 |
| techrights[sec] | day which happened to show up between the time you check and the end of the day.\ | Mar 04 14:19 |
| techrights[sec] | So it would be best to use -1 day or leave the default, -2 days. | Mar 04 14:19 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yes, i came to a similar conclusion | Mar 04 14:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | for dupe-checking i use a windows on the raspi | Mar 04 14:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it doesn't take much effort | Mar 04 14:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | maybe I'll even widen the search of days and add colour/similar to indicate "recency" | Mar 04 14:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | (i am actually quite _excited_ about this and am very grateful; it was effort well spent!) | Mar 04 14:27 |
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