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Techrights-secwhat kind of activities have they been moving to the US and what kind have theyMay 04 07:02
Techrights-secbeen going out of their way to increase?  And though you've covered it,May 04 07:02
Techrights-secwhich activities have they already outsourced?May 04 07:02
Techrights-secThe message gives no details but reads like its closing down in the UKMay 04 07:02
Techrights-secRegarding the compensatin, what does your union say about the situation?May 04 07:02
schestowitz-TRgmMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRThere is a lof of bluffMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRI think the plan is to bury debtMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRand then start afresh elsewhereMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRvery long story, but nothing was really moved to the US, it's more like a shellMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRgame. We did some reading and incolvency may mean that compensation cannot be pursuedMay 04 07:05
schestowitz-TRin which case leaving might not be the worse optionMay 04 07:05
Techrights-secackMay 04 07:34
schestowitz-TRlet's put it this way:May 04 07:35
schestowitz-TRa) company struggling financially for yearsMay 04 07:35
schestowitz-TRb) looks for way to cut costs (clown, office shutdown etc.)May 04 07:35
schestowitz-TRc) lying to everyoneMay 04 07:35
Techrights-seca) and making bad decisions which make the financial situation worse ...May 04 07:35
schestowitz-TRd) betrsying core principlesMay 04 07:35
Techrights-secb, c. and d come from the bad decisions exacerbating aMay 04 07:36
Techrights-secin other words, a death spiralMay 04 07:36
schestowitz-TRas long as payments were made, it was convenient May 04 07:40
schestowitz-TRone option is, cash in until the very endMay 04 07:40
schestowitz-TRbased on the assumptiom it's an extraction maximisedMay 04 07:40
Techrights-secackMay 04 07:40
schestowitz-TRso you do not think it is unreasonable. we can save up another large lump each month and if the losses isMay 04 07:44
schestowitz-TRat their own expenses, nothing to lose anyway?May 04 07:44
Techrights-secI guess soMay 04 07:44
Techrights-secWas there any advice about the situation from the labor union?May 04 07:44
schestowitz-TRthere is no union, just a few colleagues who can speak over the phoneMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRmind you, we've been in 'extraction' mode for yearsMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRsome unpleasant decisions made is seem impertative to leave on the basis of principles mostlyMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRbut it was just too darn convenientMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRwith the current climate, taking it easy would be even easierMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRif there is a task reassignment, then it's a whole new pandora's boxMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRbut based on my reading (official gov. site) recovering compensation in case of shutdown wouldMay 04 07:48
schestowitz-TRlikely be off the books. may depend on the country, but I'm no expertMay 04 07:48
Techrights-secthe union can be specific to the field of work not a specific employer May 04 07:49
schestowitz-TRyes, I was asked about joining an external union about 3 years ago when SarinGad was abusing peopleMay 04 07:49
schestowitz-TRmore like 4 years agoMay 04 07:49
schestowitz-TRit was already grim back thenMay 04 07:49
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Techrights-secackMay 04 07:53
schestowitz-TRleaving in "good terms" or semi-retiring means better referencesMay 04 07:55
schestowitz-TRbut there is also an element of respectMay 04 07:55
schestowitz-TRall in all, they never treated us badlyMay 04 07:55
schestowitz-TRso we might just cash in, say thank you, and boodbyeMay 04 07:55
Techrights-secyesMay 04 07:55
Techrights-secackMay 04 07:55
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schestowitz-TRbrbMay 04 10:38
schestowitz-TRit looks like, given that one week os work is one month of expenses, better push it till endMay 04 10:38
schestowitz-TRwillm speak to co.May 04 10:38
Techrights-secackMay 04 10:38
schestowitz-TRanother relatively slow news dayMay 04 10:55
schestowitz-TREPO series has 2 parts left to itMay 04 10:55
schestowitz-TRlupa seems to have slowed down the crawlingMay 04 10:55
schestowitz-TRhence, less capacity to see all the new capsulesMay 04 10:55
Techrights-secIndia is in practice banning VPN usageMay 04 10:55
schestowitz-TR1-2 days ago I posted an article or link to an articler ratherMay 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRabout how india was crushing things like a dictatorship under false pretencesMay 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRor rather committing crimes whilke claiming ro protect people from crimesMay 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRmodi H. Gates :-)May 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRanyway,m this week feels like "Mayday Week"May 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRvery little news of substanceMay 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRI'm OK with it, I can produce more articlesMay 04 10:56
schestowitz-TRwhen we did exercise today I recalled I should really extend planet geminiMay 04 11:00
schestowitz-TRit was accessed 26 times yeterday, so I assume others are starting to use it tooMay 04 11:00
schestowitz-TRit gives visibility to more capsules and I too use it to find picksMay 04 11:00
schestowitz-TRencouraging people to QUIT thinking ogf HTTP/S as the only game in townMay 04 11:00
Techrights-secmore articles heelps, it's why Reddit and other BS sites complain so much about May 04 11:01
Techrights-secTRMay 04 11:01
Techrights-secgood, Gemini is useful -- if one can discover the interesdting capsulesMay 04 11:01
schestowitz-TRthere is something called geddit for discussion within gemini (like social control media),May 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRbut I am not a funMay 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRRe : [subject] is how we did it iun the golden era of blogging (around 2004), sometimes pingbacks, trackbacks of   May 04 11:03
schestowitz-TReven blog commentsMay 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRsocial control media is centralisation of all those thingsMay 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRwe need to shun that mindsetMay 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRthere are now about a dozen new articles in geminisppace about free speechMay 04 11:03
schestowitz-TRit's discussed across lots of capsulesMay 04 11:03
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Why is EFF trying to boost and save BAD things???? "LISTEN ON YOUTUBE [...] How to Prevent TwittMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRer from Going the Way of the Dodo"  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/digital-rights-updates-effector-343 | SoMay 04 11:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.3 | Electronic Frontier FoundationMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRurce: EFFBBBMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRme: twitter SHOULD go the way of the dodoMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRand I've been saying that for a very long timeMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRas for youtube, eff took money from gulag for lobbyingMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRwhich caused what'sHerNameFromIceland to get upsetMay 04 11:14
schestowitz-TRafter she had joined the Board of the EFF and read my blog postMay 04 11:14
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schestowitz-TRI've decuded at the end there's no point adding more capsulesMay 04 12:19
schestowitz-TRas others already syndicate a lot and more importantly sort them by date (I'm not sure how they diMay 04 12:19
schestowitz-TRdo it unless the rss feed has a field for that)May 04 12:20
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Surveillance ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/03/indian-government-now-wants-vpns-to-collect-and-turn-over-personal-data-on-users/ | Source: TechdirtMay 04 12:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Indian Government Now Wants VPNs To Collect And Turn Over Personal Data On Users | TechdirtMay 04 12:35
Techrights-secyes more in the next batch of linksMay 04 12:37
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schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "Unfortunately, this change resulted in some users no longer being able to use their OpenPGP keys. We learned that the affected users still depend on keys that were created or modified with OpenPGP software that used SHA-1 for the signatures that are part of OpenPGP keys." https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/05/openpgp-keys-and-sha-1/May 04 14:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.thunderbird.net | OpenPGP keys and SHA-1 – The Thunderbird BlogMay 04 14:21
Techrights-secSHA-1 is old and unsafe, that is different from the problem exhibited by May 04 14:23
Techrights-secthunderbird blockign use of multi-address keysMay 04 14:23
Techrights-secEither way, it is a bad decision to continue to allow SHA-1 or if nothingMay 04 14:23
Techrights-secelse failing to make a clear statement about the timeline on which it willMay 04 14:23
Techrights-secbe phased out in the futureMay 04 14:23
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/new-sophisticated-malware.htMay 04 14:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/new-sophisticated-malware.ht )May 04 14:25
schestowitz-TRmlMay 04 14:25
schestowitz-TRof course bruicie does not mention the part about Windows. Goodin is a Microsoft booster in Dondy Nasty. *CondeMay 04 14:25
schestowitz-TRackMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRthe press is full of M$ boosters who conveniently omit M$ role in establishingMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRa vulnerable industryMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRLouis Rossmann covers DRM far better than the EFF, in fact the EFF seemsMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRto have forgotten about DRMMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRHe has a interesting interview with Willie Cade about the tractors andMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRboth understant the problems involved.May 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRThe EFF has been pedalling twitter and m$ against its own principlesMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secackMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secthe press is full of M$ boosters who conveniently omit M$ role in establishingMay 04 14:33
Techrights-seca vulnerable industryMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secLouis Rossmann covers DRM far better than the EFF, in fact the EFF seemsMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secto have forgotten about DRMMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secHe has a interesting interview with Willie Cade about the tractors andMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secboth understant the problems involved.May 04 14:33
Techrights-secThe EFF has been pedalling twitter and m$ against its own principlesMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TREFF has been too busy trying to 'save' Twitter and campaigning in Gulag's censorship network to doMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRsomething to SAVE a network which MANDATED proprietary JS to writes CENSORED commsMay 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRI appreciate EFF partly for humour's purposes, much like Mozilla, which is located nearby and has some overlapsMay 04 14:33
Techrights-secTragedy is not funny :(May 04 14:33
Techrights-secMozilla is a similar situation. :(May 04 14:33
schestowitz-TRIt is a sad situationMay 04 14:34
schestowitz-TRbut laughter is the best medicineMay 04 14:34
schestowitz-TRif you work in a landfill, better to get used to or love the odor May 04 14:38
schestowitz-TRif you deal with shit every day, better learn to smile at itMay 04 14:38
schestowitz-TRbecause it makes the work a lot more tolerable and you don't burn out easilyMay 04 14:38
schestowitz-TRI have dealt with shit like this since my early 20sMay 04 14:40
schestowitz-TRmost of the time we won't get our way, esp. when choosing very steep slopesMay 04 14:40
schestowitz-TRbut when we do win, even just a little, it feels goodMay 04 14:40
schestowitz-TRBTW, it's halfway in 2022 and still no UPCMay 04 14:40
Techrights-secackMay 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRmerely slowing down a massive monsster of great proportions and huge threat is somethingMay 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRUPC and Microsoft are monstersMay 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRNovell is "small time"May 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRMurk is already taking Twitter to the cleaners with plans for "fees"May 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRhe runs a losing company, where the only way is down...May 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRMaybe he can ALREADY short-sell itMay 04 14:43
Techrights-secit's still a problem that EFF does not act on the harm that social control mediaMay 04 14:43
Techrights-secinherently causesMay 04 14:43
schestowitz-TRafaik  Barlow never had an account thereMay 04 14:44
schestowitz-TRI asaw none anywayMay 04 14:44
schestowitz-TREFF cofounders got things doneMay 04 14:44
schestowitz-TRinstead of tweetingMay 04 14:44
Techrights-seccorrectMay 04 14:44
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Mastodon Basics • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164455 Twitter = one boss. Mastodon = one thousand bosses (some above others). Running your own blog, with RSS feeds = you're the boss.May 04 14:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Mastodon Basics | Tux MachinesMay 04 14:50
Techrights-seccorrectMay 04 14:50
Techrights-secackMay 04 14:50
Techrights-secYes, RSS feeds have an advanatage over the Fediverse.  Few wish to point outMay 04 14:50
Techrights-secthat the blacklists are centralized os while the instances might be distributedMay 04 14:50
Techrights-secthe control is notMay 04 14:50
schestowitz-TRTim Wilson pointed this out in JoinDiaspora, in writing, IIRC, and moreover brought this up in at leastMay 04 14:52
schestowitz-TRone show/ep of techbytesMay 04 14:52
schestowitz-TRtbh, he saw it ahead of me. Back then I could not grasp what he was getting at, or have not seen the s May 04 14:52
schestowitz-TRseverity of it yetMay 04 14:52
schestowitz-TRThe people who flocked from G+ to plupora are on a dying site now tooMay 04 14:52
schestowitz-TRits podadmin diedMay 04 14:52
Techrights-secthe overhead for running and instance is outrageous anywayMay 04 14:52
schestowitz-TR[11:51] <schestowitz> https://the-federation.info/diasporaMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:51] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hubMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:51] <DaemonFC> Imagine holiday dinners and stuff.May 04 14:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hubMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <DaemonFC> You let the police in because it's your brother-in-law.May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <schestowitz> Users: 822088May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <schestowitz> Last 6 months users: 30393May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <schestowitz> Last month users: 8825May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <DaemonFC> He sees something. You're arrested for Christmas.May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] --> u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined this channel.May 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <schestowitz> only 1 in 100 registered users if activeMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <matey> last time i was looking for a place, i found a state trooper lived thereMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TR[11:52] <schestowitz> so for each user on the network you have to maintain data, inc. images, for 99 more peopleMay 04 14:53
schestowitz-TRthere is a lot more about this in the main IRC channel today, but that's one of many. We did the same for other "federated" platformsMay 04 14:54
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schestowitz-TR Melinda Gates: I divorce my husband because of Jeffrey Epstein, whose only 'value' was giving access to underage sex. Corporate media: Gates is divorced over adult relationships. Yeah, gaslight the wife for your SPONSOR Bill...May 04 15:07
schestowitz-TRIF???? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220503-activists-urge-ad-boycott-if-musk-turns-twitter-toxicMay 04 15:08
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.france24.com | Activists urge ad boycott if Musk turns Twitter toxicMay 04 15:08
Techrights-secthere are a lot of red herrings thrown out there to try to protect billMay 04 15:20
Techrights-seche's s bad that you can almost make up stuff and find out later it's true anywayMay 04 15:20
schestowitz-TRthat reptile alien illuminati :-)May 04 15:20
schestowitz-TRdon't think he can pull it off.  May 04 15:20
schestowitz-TRIn Twitter I saw people linking a lot to TR in recent daysMay 04 15:20
schestowitz-TRthe more he speaks, the louder people reactMay 04 15:20
schestowitz-TRthen he comes back from hidingMay 04 15:21
schestowitz-TRhoping that people forgotMay 04 15:21
schestowitz-TRmaybe Zuck Musk can silence those "cranks" for him next time aroundMay 04 15:21
Techrights-secthus the 'control' part of the social control media epithetMay 04 15:22
schestowitz-TRthey made wikileaks go away by locking many accounts and making wikileaks PLUS its high-profikle supportersMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TRa lot less visibleMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TRthey can talkMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TRbut getting an audience will be hardMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TReven people whom they're followed byMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TRsame issue in gulagtube BTW, from what I am able to gather   May 04 15:23
schestowitz-TRthey can arbitrarily decide who wins and who losesMay 04 15:23
schestowitz-TR HELP, accidentially deleted my capsule gemini://jdj.golf/gemlog/shit.gmiMay 04 15:45
schestowitz-TRnotice hiw like and comment feature at the bottomMay 04 15:46
schestowitz-TRnot badMay 04 15:46
schestowitz-TRnot sure abouyt client compatMay 04 15:46
Techrights-secbackups are important -- every day if not more often, depending on the workMay 04 15:46
Techrights-sec"Moral of the story: backup your stuff"May 04 15:46
Techrights-secInterestingMay 04 15:48
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schestowitz-TRChart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From Spreading http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/04/covid-May 04 18:23
schestowitz-TRtest-case-ratio/May 04 18:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Chart: Only Lockdowns Have Stopped COVID-19 From SpreadingMay 04 18:23
schestowitz-TRit goes close to zero after separating peopleMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRat this point their data portal become a propaganda avenueMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRthey present data in a misleading fasdhionMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRasnd several times they made changes, each time to belittle the issueMay 04 18:24
Techrights-secnot a surpriseMay 04 18:24
Techrights-sec"based on official NHS data" ... link ?May 04 18:24
Techrights-secthe chart goes from right to left instead of the usual left to right thoughMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRe data would be an extra hassle, so I did not botherMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRyou can open the ods and do your own thingMay 04 18:24
schestowitz-TRthe chart is there, tooMay 04 18:24
Techrights-secackMay 04 18:26
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schestowitz-TR[18:37] <techrights-news> Fewer than 50 million Brits got a second shot of 'fake' COVID-19, which means that almost 20 millions have not. But our government brags about figures like "92.5%" -- a misleading peer pressure tacticMay 04 18:37
Techrights-secackMay 04 18:38
schestowitz-TR[18:44] <techrights-news> CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/04/cisa-adds-five-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog 40% are APPLE and 40% are Microsoft, but CIA is omitting that because it does not wish to admonish proprietary stuff with NSA back doors?May 04 18:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Five Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISAMay 04 18:45
schestowitz-TR*CISAMay 04 18:45
Techrights-secI would guess soMay 04 18:49
Techrights-secRemember M$ got in on Biden's election campagin and according to customMay 04 18:49
Techrights-seche owes them a big one  May 04 18:49
Techrights-secfor thatMay 04 18:49
Techrights-seceven if it is more likely they actually hurt his campaign as much or moreMay 04 18:49
Techrights-secthan they helpedMay 04 18:49
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