●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 04, 2022 ●● ● Jun 04 [00:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Jun 04 [02:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 04 [06:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jun 04 [08:02] schestowitz-TR "The CEO of America's largest bank is worried, and for good reason." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/03/you-can-thank-ronald-reagan-economic-shitstorm-come | Source: Common Dreams [08:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | You Can Thank Ronald Reagan for the Economic Shitstorm to Come | Thom Hartmann [08:36] schestowitz-TR On github as a social network gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ "Slowly I began to realize that these social networking sites were echo-chambers that really didn't mean much at all." [08:38] schestowitz-TR "Github is the worst kind of social networking site. Like a virus, it has infected my mind and is constantly getting me to engage with it. It's a social networking site that I have to use for work." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ [08:39] schestowitz-TR "Github isn't just a code repository, it's a social networking site. The network effect makes it really hard to host other open source projects anywhere else." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ [08:41] schestowitz-TR "I really like sourcehut[1] and will be moving everything there. There are no "engagement" features like stars or trending projects. Drew, more than anyone, has made me realize that you don't have to participate in social networking in order to have people use your projects." "gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ "I really like sourcehut[1] and will be moving everything there. There are no "engagement" features like [08:41] schestowitz-TR stars or trending projects. Drew, more than anyone, has made me realize that you don't have to participate in social networking in order to have people use your projects." "gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ [08:44] Techrights-sec ack [08:44] Techrights-sec sr.ht seems ok ● Jun 04 [09:34] schestowitz-TR Chomsky https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/a-response-to-yuriy-gorodnichenko-bohdan-kukharskyy-anastassia-fedyk-and-ilona-sologoub-regarding-their-critique-of-noam-chomsky-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/ | Source: Counter Punch [09:34] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A Response to Yuriy Gorodnichenko,Bohdan Kukharskyy,Anastassia Fedyk andIlona SologoubRegarding Their Critique of Noam Chomsky on the Russia-Ukraine War - CounterPunch.org [09:34] *techrights_guest|81 (~1875b2cf@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:40] *techrights_guest|81 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Jun 04 [10:31] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:39] schestowitz-TR tried thinking of venn diagrams for brands and threat types, but those would not fit well [10:39] schestowitz-TR trying to come up with a more useful presentation [10:39] schestowitz-TR an alternate approach is to highlight overlap in threats, as in surveillance and censorship having overlaps [10:39] schestowitz-TR the goal is to do something nobody else did before [10:40] Techrights-sec THere may be too many aspect for a simple chart for visualization [10:40] Techrights-sec that might work better [10:40] Techrights-sec simply cataloging them ought to be a good start [10:48] schestowitz-TR the companies, the threats, or both? [10:48] schestowitz-TR hardware lockdown is a reasonably new one [10:48] schestowitz-TR btw, quite a few articles this morning about covid-19 patent barriers [10:48] schestowitz-TR the problem was never solved [10:50] Techrights-sec both [10:50] Techrights-sec the chain of UEFI, Restricted Boot, TPM, etc ought to be prominent [10:50] Techrights-sec People have been ignoring the slowing creeping assault, others are in denial [10:50] Techrights-sec and claim they will just buy old hardware for all eternity. Even if the old [10:50] Techrights-sec hardware remains available, the DRM'd software and new DRM'd hardware will [10:50] Techrights-sec actively introduce incompatibilities so that it will be mariginalized and [10:50] Techrights-sec rendered useless quickly anyway. [10:50] Techrights-sec Gate''s PR team has already poisoned the well on that topic though so [10:50] Techrights-sec there is a bit of an uphill fight to get it acknowleged as a real problem [10:52] schestowitz-TR I've nearly cleaned all my feeds apart from patents (which is mostly noise and causes annoyanace... not good for my head) [10:52] schestowitz-TR I'll try to produce some abstraction of the threat landscape [10:52] schestowitz-TR btw, fsf has been supoer quiet this past month, not sure if it's just me noticing that [10:54] Techrights-sec they've been quiet for a long time but especially quiet of late, but the [10:54] Techrights-sec general long period of quiet masks that [10:54] Techrights-sec dunno [10:55] schestowitz-TR I've just checcked, rms talk starts in 3:05 (hours: mins), but it's in French so not sure a live feed would be worth embedding [10:55] schestowitz-TR I don't suppose many readers grasp french even at the rms level [10:58] schestowitz-TR I've just checcked, rms talk starts in 3:05 (hours: mins), but it's in French so not sure a live feed would be worth embedding [10:58] schestowitz-TR I don't suppose many readers grasp french even at the rms level [10:58] schestowitz-TR I've chedked 2 online venn diagramming tools (JS, obv.), both crap and unfit for purpose [10:58] schestowitz-TR I might just bake it like a pie from scratch in GIMP [10:58] schestowitz-TR while it's important to crush not only Microsoft but also Microsoftism ("ex" staff), we must also look at the broader [10:59] schestowitz-TR picture [10:59] schestowitz-TR to me, Microsoft looks a lot weaker than in 2006 when Windows was EVERYWHERE [10:59] Techrights-sec use layers for that [10:59] Techrights-sec Not enough is done in the world to counter the damage from "former" microsofters and from embedded sales reps on company salar [10:59] Techrights-sec y but working against the [10:59] Techrights-sec company to the nenefit of M$ ● Jun 04 [11:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u6frqcve4gb94.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:02] schestowitz-TR you might not like me saying that, but in our company we don't have THAT threat but a few "MacDiots" and people [11:02] schestowitz-TR who worship clown everything [11:02] schestowitz-TR that mindset too needs eradicating [11:02] schestowitz-TR I recognise that in other companies Microsoftism is a bigger problem [11:02] Techrights-sec clown is a problem two , but as harmful as it is it is nonetheless a smaller [11:02] Techrights-sec threat than M$ and its minions [11:04] schestowitz-TR I will use layers [11:04] schestowitz-TR I think I might later get small icons for companies to represent examples of the threat, without many words [11:04] Techrights-sec TM just hiccupped [11:06] schestowitz-TR I did not notice, thanks for keeping an eye [11:06] schestowitz-TR I have been managing to post a ton of updates there lately [11:06] schestowitz-TR I cannot say anything good about lzer's editorial choices of late [11:06] schestowitz-TR very drunk at the wheel [11:06] schestowitz-TR broken URLs [11:06] schestowitz-TR links to links [11:06] schestowitz-TR Microsoft promotion [11:06] schestowitz-TR total OT stuff [11:06] schestowitz-TR makes you wonder [11:06] schestowitz-TR slashdot is a farce [11:06] Techrights-sec I didn't have time to check the cause [11:06] Techrights-sec :( [11:07] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The whole idea of wireless connectivity is pretty bad too in consumer electronics. [11:08] DaemonFC Usually it doesn't function well even with "premium" brands. They want you to use proprietary software which they clearly won't always support. [11:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, I considered moving to ethernet [11:08] DaemonFC In the case of Bose, it's that stupid SoundTouch model which bolts on a huge thing to the underside of your Wave system, and then wants smartphone apps. [11:08] schestowitz-TR but it would look ugly and messy [11:09] DaemonFC The reviewers I was looking at said the app was a clunky mess. It made them spend hours just doing firmware updates on the SoundTouch before it even worked, and then they had dropouts and disconnects. [11:09] DaemonFC But the Bluetooth worked. [11:09] DaemonFC Why should I have to pay another $150 for a huge bolted-on dock just to get fucking Bluetooth!? [11:11] schestowitz-TR OK, I will use squares rather than circles [11:11] schestowitz-TR easier to edit and more suitable when some are subthreats [11:11] schestowitz-TR this morning's gz files are OK [11:11] schestowitz-TR inc. wiki [11:11] schestowitz-TR I might spend more time working on the wiki [11:11] schestowitz-TR maybe soon some upgrades too, but with this software when you upgrade you get unwanted and dangerous features [11:11] schestowitz-TR more js, xss, more things that can go wrong [11:11] schestowitz-TR like people uploading scripts [11:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Like, this dock is something you can't remove later and if there's a new Bluetooth spec, you can't upgrade to it. [11:13] DaemonFC So you'd be stuck with it, and it costs more and is bulky. [11:13] DaemonFC It's crazy. [11:13] DaemonFC You could just get a 3.5 mm splitter, turning the Aux In into two things, and then plug in a Bluetooth receiver to one of them. [11:14] DaemonFC They sell them for cars and older stereos for like $25-50. [11:14] DaemonFC They did a really good radio but I don't think whoever did the SoundTouch model really put a lot of care into it. [11:15] DaemonFC That's probably why longtime Bose customers are complaining about the innovation stopping when Amar Bose died. [11:15] DaemonFC I couldn't imagine he'd be happy with what the Wave IV SoundTouch model does. [11:16] DaemonFC You could easily build in Bluetooth at no extra charge and have one model of radio and not increase the size at all. [11:16] DaemonFC It's not like Bluetooth chips are big or produce a lot of heat or are power hogs. [11:17] DaemonFC If I had to name another example of a company behaving this way, it would have to go back into the 90s with Sega. [11:17] DaemonFC They released way too many adapters for their consoles, and the Genesis especially turned into a "Choose Your Own Adventure" of dongles, which didn't work together. [11:18] DaemonFC Like, you could attack a Sega 32X and have a 32-bit Genesis system, but then you had to use cartridges, which could not fit complex games. [11:18] DaemonFC Or you could use a Sega CD, and have CD-ROM games that could be very big, but were limited to the processing capabilities of the base system. [11:19] DaemonFC If they had released one adapter that plugged into the cartridge port and did both and retailed for $99, they could have killed Nintendo. [11:19] DaemonFC Just absolutely killed them. [11:21] DaemonFC Then you had compatibility with the old system by removing the adapter, or an entirely new console that used the original one for co-processors, by plugging it in. [11:21] DaemonFC You know, I could have done better as a CEO than the one they had. [11:22] DaemonFC "Get in there and give me something that does this, this, and this. We'll sell it at cost, and then we'll make a whole heap of money on games when the customer realizes that our system is faster than Nintendo's with better graphics, for half the money, and will be for 5 more years at least!" [11:23] DaemonFC Backwards compatibility was something that nobody did back then, and absolutely nobody was going to give you what was essentially a brand new console for $99. [11:24] DaemonFC What Bose is doing with the SoundTouch is a middle finger to customers who want basic wireless functionality that all of their competitors have in the base model mini Hi-Fi market. [11:24] DaemonFC They need to do something about this eventually or they're cooked. [11:26] DaemonFC As for jsut passing along the raw files, I get that, but DLNA or something is a better choice than a proprietary app. [11:26] DaemonFC I could set up DLNA in less than five minutes. [11:26] DaemonFC And the protocol doesn't change in incompatible ways or get discontinued like some app in Google Play will. [11:31] schestowitz-TR yes [11:32] schestowitz-TR Upgrades might be good if they are not a trojan for more JS [11:32] Techrights-sec yes [11:32] Techrights-sec Upgrades might be good if they are not a trojan for more JS [11:32] schestowitz-TR atm I think splitting it into several charts would work better [11:32] schestowitz-TR to avoid text becoming too small [11:32] schestowitz-TR I can refine these easily, I keep it simple with all plain text aside in a text editor [11:41] Techrights-sec yes venn diagrams work best with just two or three main sets, it ca [11:41] Techrights-sec can get too complicated to visualize otherwise [11:42] schestowitz-TR I will share a crude draft first [11:42] schestowitz-TR I think several charts can be interconnected via BLOB -> see chart 2 for blob's context [11:42] schestowitz-TR like an expanding magicbox [11:43] Techrights-sec ack [11:44] schestowitz-TR in turn, each box can get a number [11:44] schestowitz-TR and that number than has a list of icons aside, or names of companies [11:44] schestowitz-TR easier to update these [11:44] schestowitz-TR as time goes by [11:44] DaemonFC In the early 90s, Sega was a household name with millions and millions of installed units. [11:45] DaemonFC Pitching a $99 upgrade would have worked had the upgrade deck been well planned. [11:45] DaemonFC The annual expected failure rate for a Genesis console was so low that many of them still work fine today. [11:47] DaemonFC The fact that the Genesis was still going strong years after Nintendo released the SNES showed that the Genesis was originally designed pretty well. [11:47] DaemonFC Sega really began running into trouble with the Saturn. [11:47] DaemonFC By the time they gave up on adapters and retired the Genesis and got the Saturn on the market, Nintendo had the 64 and Sony had the Playstation. [11:48] DaemonFC Sega was always a few years ahead of their competitors, but their competitors used FUD and vaporware to keep people on the fence about buying someone else's console. [11:48] DaemonFC I think the XBOX was a success because Microsoft had plenty of practice with that already. [11:50] DaemonFC The original XBOX got off to a really bad start and it was still more than another year AFTER it launched (so 2003) before there were decent titles hitting the market. [11:50] DaemonFC But they managed to deploy enough FUD and vaporware to keep people reluctant to buy the Dreamcast, which was out in 1998. [11:51] DaemonFC Microsoft's original plan was to buy Nintendo. [11:51] DaemonFC They couldn't get anyone at Nintendo to even talk to them about it. [11:52] DaemonFC The plan to buy Nintendo was really a threat. [11:52] DaemonFC They figured if Nintendo didn't sell, they could just destroy them. [11:52] DaemonFC The only console I have right now is a Nintendo Switch. [11:52] DaemonFC It does not overpower the others by any means, but that's fine. I like the games better. [11:53] DaemonFC Microsoft and Sony play to the crowd that respond to computer specifications over how many decent titles the system has and what each one shall cost. [11:54] DaemonFC There's unfortunately a market for that, but they're slugging it out between themselves because the Switch is plenty of fun and people realize it. ● Jun 04 [12:19] schestowitz-TR ok, check the png on /home/roy/ on your device [12:20] schestowitz-TR I'm sure many more can be added [12:20] schestowitz-TR this is focused on some clusters of threats [12:20] schestowitz-TR no numbers, companies, examples... yet [12:20] schestowitz-TR those can be added as editable text, where topology does not matter [12:22] schestowitz-TR there are less than 24 labels to add in total, so can use A-Z for legend [12:38] schestowitz-TR I have just uploaded a newer version with legend added [12:51] Techrights-sec ack [12:51] Techrights-sec checking [12:51] Techrights-sec way to "busy" to interpret, are these groupings? [12:51] Techrights-sec maybe a plain HTML table would be better if these are groupings [12:51] Techrights-sec In the disenfrachisement category, "complexity" could be added [12:51] Techrights-sec "entrapment" could be "decommodification", since it was used so much in the [12:51] Techrights-sec Halloween documents or maybe just "vendor lock-in" [12:51] Techrights-sec The font size needs to be consistent within each block [12:53] schestowitz-TR OK, I think we'll focus on text then [12:53] schestowitz-TR and the visual chart will be secondary [12:53] schestowitz-TR I was thinking [12:53] schestowitz-TR use h1-h4 [12:53] schestowitz-TR for levels [12:53] schestowitz-TR list the item [12:53] schestowitz-TR then give a list of companies [12:53] schestowitz-TR as links to pages inside the wiki [12:54] schestowitz-TR and then they can be alluded by by "letter" for the "map" [12:54] schestowitz-TR I'll go draft something... [12:54] schestowitz-TR hang on... [12:54] schestowitz-TR (coffee in percolator) [12:54] Techrights-sec ack [12:55] schestowitz-TR charts would be PITA to update in the long run anyway [12:55] schestowitz-TR usually a one-off [12:55] schestowitz-TR so the meat will be in text and links ● Jun 04 [13:02] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:08] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:09] Techrights-sec ok [13:09] Techrights-sec maybe even a hierarchical DL in HTML ? [13:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents [13:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights [13:20] Techrights-sec The graphic is not really usable [13:20] Techrights-sec The TOC works better though [13:22] schestowitz-TR yes, the graphics was a fast, crue attemp [13:22] schestowitz-TR crude [13:22] schestowitz-TR shall we add a list of Examples: [13:22] schestowitz-TR with list of companies linking to the wiki? [13:22] schestowitz-TR some companies need a NEW pages in the wiki [13:22] schestowitz-TR as a sort of mnemonic at the last [13:22] schestowitz-TR a lot of this is a mental exercise in 'mapping' the threat [13:22] schestowitz-TR so we can properly respond [13:22] Techrights-sec probably better without it for the time being, it is a hard visualization [13:22] Techrights-sec to produce [13:22] Techrights-sec Yes, some examples under each line item would help, possibly with links [13:22] Techrights-sec to the relevant wiki pages [13:29] schestowitz-TR biab [13:29] schestowitz-TR we have no wikip page for "Google" [13:29] schestowitz-TR if we start one, what to have in it? [13:29] Techrights-sec no need to add it yet, for the time being just link to any existing, relevant [13:29] Techrights-sec wiki pages [13:30] schestowitz-TR I put aside a list ot topics/companies for which a wiki page would help [13:30] schestowitz-TR it can even link to similar pages from rms [13:30] schestowitz-TR he keeps list of articles demonstrating bad things they do [13:38] Techrights-sec ack [13:38] Techrights-sec google got so bad they've started nym shifting (alphabet, etc) [13:41] schestowitz-TR good call, microsoft took another approach [13:41] schestowitz-TR grab lots of companies, use them for graft (e.g. hololens) [13:41] schestowitz-TR and try to ensure people do not associate them with the real operator [13:41] schestowitz-TR skype, github, linkedin, minecraft... [13:41] schestowitz-TR also, it is a hack against antitrust enforcement [13:41] schestowitz-TR they preactively "split" themselves [13:41] schestowitz-TR and even have multiple CEOs, like Paul at Red Hat [13:41] schestowitz-TR the media does the same [13:41] schestowitz-TR one company, many tentacles [13:41] schestowitz-TR so you don't realise who controls the channels [13:41] schestowitz-TR or when you order water and orange juce at a fast food chain but those too are controlled by Coke (or Pepsico) [13:41] schestowitz-TR soon enough there will be a lot more genders than corporations [13:42] Techrights-sec yes M$ works by porxy as much as they can get away with [13:42] Techrights-sec a duopoly; coke and pepsie basically take turns on the display case [13:42] Techrights-sec :/ [13:47] schestowitz-TR I've just complted a quic, crude, first pass for examples [13:47] schestowitz-TR might need to add a few words to explain the threats and maybe break down further [13:47] schestowitz-TR as we see fit, over time... [13:53] schestowitz I am now adding more in http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents#Other_Threats_.28Peripheral.29 [13:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights [13:53] schestowitz I think we will use this page for reference a lot in the coming years, once it's a lot more polished... [13:55] schestowitz-TR I've just noted that the gates foundation wqiki page approaches 1m views. [13:55] schestowitz-TR *noticed ● Jun 04 [14:00] Techrights-sec ack [14:00] Techrights-sec legal attacks: COC [14:00] Techrights-sec administrivia DoS [14:00] Techrights-sec more ruels and committees than coders [14:00] schestowitz-TR the "legal" sectiuon has been rewritten [14:02] Techrights-sec 1M is good, his reputation laundering budget would be interesting to know now [14:02] Techrights-sec it was $300 M USD per year a long time ago, with Epstein and everything else, [14:02] Techrights-sec I can't see it having gone down [14:02] schestowitz-TR sometyimes one "bad" piece about billg can do enough damage that even 100 puff pieces won't cancel it out (IME) [14:02] schestowitz-TR you just need to explin the key points, e.g. world's richest DOES NOT speak for the poor [14:02] schestowitz-TR OR for the CHILDREN [14:02] schestowitz-TR or tell us about climate change while keeping 3 kids and 4 saircrafts [14:02] schestowitz-TR *aircrafts [14:02] Techrights-sec Astroturfing and shilling are also a way to wear down projects, too many [14:02] Techrights-sec project leaders seem to think that the majority of the comments are legitimate [14:02] Techrights-sec in forums [14:03] schestowitz-TR case of point: abuse in sourcehut [14:03] schestowitz-TR which put drew devault in "depressive" (his word) episode [14:05] Techrights-sec s/in/of/ [14:05] Techrights-sec yes that was one of the cases I had in mind [14:05] Techrights-sec he may think that the attacks are from real people or represent actual opinions [14:05] Techrights-sec rather than realizing that M$ or other group(s) are behind the *desperate* [14:05] Techrights-sec attacks against his very successful project; he's doing a lot for software [14:05] Techrights-sec freedom along the way, hence the pressure [14:06] schestowitz-TR he competes with shithub [14:06] schestowitz-TR and afaict they gained a lot of devs+projects [14:06] schestowitz-TR that momentum needed [sic] to be curtailed [14:06] schestowitz-TR "toxic" site [14:06] schestowitz-TR need a "safe space" like Microsoft [14:06] schestowitz-TR just don't be a woman and upset Alex Graveley [14:06] schestowitz-TR you will cease to be a problem... or exist [14:08] schestowitz-TR tasking a break from the wiki for a bit, catching up with rss [14:08] schestowitz-TR will make pages later for 7 companies identified as needing at the very least a stub [14:09] Techrights-sec I'll probably look at RSS tomorrow or Monday [14:11] schestowitz-TR lots of very insightful ranrs about the state of the Net and Web in gopher and gemini space/s [14:11] schestowitz-TR I think we must prepare for changes [14:11] schestowitz-TR many people have sunken much effort into ticking time bombs [14:11] Techrights-sec yes [14:36] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Google [14:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Google - Techrights [14:36] Techrights-sec I wonder if a Geocities parallel can be drawn [14:38] schestowitz-TR Now there is neocities [14:38] schestowitz-TR but it outlived its usefulness [14:38] schestowitz-TR except nostalgic value [14:38] schestowitz-TR in geminispace a lot of hosting or arrangements for hosting are like geocities [14:38] schestowitz-TR and managed siomilarly [14:43] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Clownflare [14:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Clownflare - Techrights [14:44] Techrights-sec yes [14:44] Techrights-sec I was thinkin that people build up large hosted communities for the hoster [14:44] Techrights-sec to eventually get shut down having been bought out or for other reasons [14:44] schestowitz-TR opriginally maybe for altruistic reasons [14:44] schestowitz-TR but those purposes do not outlive founders [14:45] schestowitz-TR and those who inherit it have other ideas in mind [14:45] schestowitz-TR at least with tuxmachines we kept the original spirit [14:45] schestowitz-TR and even removed all the ads that susan had put in there [14:48] schestowitz-TR only two pages are now rophaned [14:48] schestowitz-TR need a stub [14:48] schestowitz-TR spotify and netflix [14:48] schestowitz-TR I am going to link to the RMS pages about these [14:48] Techrights-sec ack ● Jun 04 [15:18] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200 [15:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Cargo 200 - Wikipedia ● Jun 04 [16:45] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 04 [17:32] schestowitz-TR my young sister is getting married [17:32] schestowitz-TR b/f proposed today in italy [17:32] schestowitz-TR more pressure off me re ofspring, I guess [17:32] schestowitz-TR through my other sister my dad has just found out I want to go part time [17:33] schestowitz-TR so at least he is aware ( a little prematurely) [17:33] schestowitz-TR i went to the nearby electric store [17:33] schestowitz-TR what a joke! [17:33] schestowitz-TR the only sound systems they sell are overpriced pieces of shit [17:33] schestowitz-TR absolute shit [17:33] schestowitz-TR "sound bars" [17:33] schestowitz-TR that's the fashion now [17:33] schestowitz-TR and they cost a lot, maybe for a brand [17:33] schestowitz-TR even the monitors are a lot more pricey than they need to be [17:33] schestowitz-TR I think they intentionally stock it like that [17:33] schestowitz-TR they also never have affordable peripheral [17:33] Techrights-sec yes the sound bars are probably unlicensed Linux in violation of the license [17:33] Techrights-sec the stock here has turned like that too. Last I checked, there were no plain [17:33] Techrights-sec loudspeakers to be had anywhere [17:36] schestowitz-TR sometimes rianne noticed the fast opening also, less under an hour [17:36] schestowitz-TR "just clean the garden... and bloom it goes out of where moments later" [17:36] schestowitz-TR *neaned [17:36] schestowitz-TR *nowhere [17:36] schestowitz-TR anyway, I will try to do some blog posts now [17:36] schestowitz-TR seems EPO is pretending to be poor [17:36] schestowitz-TR like our gov... until andrew's mom is throwing a party [17:37] Techrights-sec yep [17:37] Techrights-sec ack [17:40] schestowitz-TR status: [17:40] schestowitz-TR flying: sucks [17:40] schestowitz-TR stores: suck (unless I really need something) [17:40] schestowitz-TR parties: superspreaders [17:40] schestowitz-TR I'm running out of reasons to go out, except for running (or cycling) [17:40] schestowitz-TR sad to say this, years ago it would seem unthinkable [17:40] schestowitz-TR I am NOT going to pay for a single speaker what a whole laptop (WITH speakers) cost me [17:40] schestowitz-TR I still have my 1990s stereo, which works... but we use that for exercise [17:40] schestowitz-TR of course you can never find a mouse or keyboard for a sane price there, either [17:40] schestowitz-TR it's a bsiness decision [17:48] Techrights-sec ack [17:48] Techrights-sec flying has gotten progressively worse due to the security theatre degrading [17:48] Techrights-sec both the experience of flying and the dignity of the fliers. The latter [17:48] Techrights-sec is almost certainly the main reason it is deployed like it is. [17:48] Techrights-sec there have to be 2 EUR worth of parts and labor in your average mouse [17:48] Techrights-sec yet the price is many times that [17:49] schestowitz-TR like a light bulb, it is possible to make electronics that last decades [17:49] schestowitz-TR there has been no business incentive though [17:49] schestowitz-TR and regulation has flatlined [17:55] Techrights-sec the lightbulb is a good example, along with nylong stockings. The early [17:55] Techrights-sec instances of incandescent bulbs lasted a long time. The cartel cut that [17:55] Techrights-sec down to 2000 hours and did a marketing campaign to make it sound like [17:55] Techrights-sec and improvement. Run-free nylons were available decades ago but the companies [17:55] Techrights-sec which manufacture them engineer them to be ruined after a few uses [17:56] schestowitz-TR oh, btw [17:56] schestowitz-TR the model I bought in march is not available now [17:56] schestowitz-TR it's the same now except 5 pounds more and HD is 128GB SSD instead of 1000GB magnetic [17:56] schestowitz-TR I don't consider this an upgrade [17:56] schestowitz-TR just more expensive [17:56] Techrights-sec right. they change models every few months ● Jun 04 [18:04] schestowitz-TR right. they change models every few months [18:04] schestowitz-TR it keeps the marketeers busy, if companies fired the marketeers they'd have [18:05] schestowitz-TR a lot of spare money and probably sell just as much [18:07] Techrights-sec it keeps the marketeers busy, if companies fired the marketeers they'd have [18:07] Techrights-sec a lot of spare money and probably sell just as much [18:08] schestowitz-TR tbh, I'm alone in this floor so headphones serve me ok, no need to broadcast sound outwards to neighbours and rianne [18:08] schestowitz-TR also, the sound is mp3 quality, around 128 whatsDatUnit, so no need for fancy system [18:08] schestowitz-TR we had a decent one from ebay (35 pounds), 7 pieces, since 2013 [18:08] schestowitz-TR but it broke down last yuear [18:08] schestowitz-TR (logitech) [18:08] Techrights-sec ack [18:08] Techrights-sec mp3 still sucks [18:08] Techrights-sec the sound is highly distorted even on "high" quality files and that distortion [18:08] Techrights-sec is amplified by the bluetooth and other shortcomings [18:08] Techrights-sec it's hard to know which ones are good quality in advance because they are [18:09] Techrights-sec changing (on purpose) all the time ● Jun 04 [19:21] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@74sqwmp29tick.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:58] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jun 04 [20:17] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.it/BryanWilhite/status/1532952299684843520#m [20:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bryan D. 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