●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 04, 2022 ●● ● Jul 04 [00:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [00:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 04 [01:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 04 [05:42] schestowitz-TR kaniini is looking into the disk-related warnings [05:43] schestowitz-TR I had to repair the DB twice more [05:43] schestowitz-TR same table [05:58] Techrights-sec2 Ok I'm glad it has his attention but it is unfortunate it is taking time from [05:58] Techrights-sec2 his other activities ● Jul 04 [07:05] schestowitz-TR I've suggested a new VM [07:05] schestowitz-TR (no repy yet) [07:05] schestowitz-TR also examined drupal 6-> hugo conversion [07:05] schestowitz-TR i know it's holiday [07:05] schestowitz-TR it's in the public channel, in the scrollback [07:05] schestowitz-TR the important tables are still OK AFAIk [07:05] schestowitz-TR but we have techniucal debt at CMS level and OS level [07:06] Techrights-sec2 ack [07:06] Techrights-sec2 the OS level might be the easiest to solve [07:10] Techrights-sec2 supposedly July 4th is when Thoreau move out to Walden Pond: [07:10] Techrights-sec2 https://www.britannica.com/biography/Henry-David-Thoreau/Move-to-Walden-Pond [07:10] Techrights-sec2 though the exact date is not in /that/ particular article [07:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Henry David Thoreau - Move to Walden Pond | Britannica [07:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:14] schestowitz-TR today I don't sleep too well, had 4 batches of sleep, waking up to check tail -f [07:14] schestowitz-TR the past 2 ot 3 times the repair did not have to alter anything [07:14] schestowitz-TR it just showed some alerts related to the search index [07:14] schestowitz-TR but overall these issues go bakc more than a week [07:14] schestowitz-TR we just don't quite see them [07:14] schestowitz-TR I checked randomly some pages to ensure all works OK [07:14] schestowitz-TR one option I tought was involves loss of some comments etc. [07:14] schestowitz-TR and we need to have accounts open for contributors like marius [07:14] schestowitz-TR from what I've read, upgrading drupal is not easy at all [07:14] schestowitz-TR 'reinventing' the site would spoil what it stands for though [07:14] schestowitz-TR I wish some companies rleased software and properly supported [07:14] schestowitz-TR it for decades [07:14] schestowitz-TR it's not an impossible task, but financial motivation [07:15] Techrights-sec2 https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-verse/2014/0704/Fourth-of-July-Almost-two-hundred-years-ago-Thoreau-moved-into-his-Walden-Pond-cabin [07:15] Techrights-sec2 TM has brief outages throughout the day, so those are more likely slowdowns and [07:15] Techrights-sec2 timeouts than anything else [07:15] Techrights-sec2 the appeal to novelty fallacy is too heavily used for that to be allowed [07:15] Techrights-sec2 and, yes, there are perverse incentives motivating churn rather than stability [07:15] Techrights-sec2 that churn also allows decommodification to creep in a little at a time [07:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fourth of July: Almost two hundred years ago, Thoreau moved into his Walden Pond cabin - CSMonitor.com [07:19] schestowitz-TR the analogy I can come up with is, build a radio that lasts 30 years versus "smart" tuner that stops getting [07:19] schestowitz-TR updates after a few years and is "end of life" (good luck or buy a new one) [07:19] schestowitz-TR same for sofwtare [07:19] schestowitz-TR while I don't know (nor think) the DB issue is related to the disk, it would help to address that other issue [07:19] schestowitz-TR too. kaniini says the sites are i/o intensive, which is likely correct [07:19] Techrights-sec2 they look I/O intensive [07:19] schestowitz-TR so maybe that's the cause, but with bad backup files it is not benign [07:35] Techrights-sec2 ok [07:56] schestowitz-TR I am testing DB integrity [07:56] schestowitz-TR ping [07:56] schestowitz-TR ignore warnings [07:56] Techrights-sec2 otr: I have to head out for some errands shortly [07:56] Techrights-sec2 pong [07:56] Techrights-sec2 ok ● Jul 04 [08:14] schestowitz-TR OK, for the record and for transparency: [08:14] schestowitz what I did: [08:14] schestowitz check search_index integrity [08:14] schestowitz as it was marked as crashed [08:14] schestowitz then repaired it [08:14] schestowitz it took a long time [08:14] schestowitz almost 5 mins in this many cores [08:14] schestowitz as a result, some search results in TM look a little odd [08:14] schestowitz but critical data seems OK [08:14] schestowitz II did further testing [08:14] schestowitz after the repair [08:14] schestowitz 1) get db remote, check gz [08:14] schestowitz 2) get db local, check gz [08:14] schestowitz 3) check db [08:14] schestowitz 4) tail -f running now to see if anything breaks again (I suspect it's a matter of time but hope not [08:14] schestowitz Contingencies: fall back to older DB, export to another CMS, or try to repair on the go [08:19] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 04 [09:23] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:24] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jul 04 [12:22] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:24] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:24] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *roy (~quassel@freenode-402r8r.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [12:25] *roy (~quassel@freenode-402r8r.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [12:25] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:25] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:25] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:25] *roy (~quassel@freenode-402r8r.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [12:25] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:25] *roy (~quassel@freenode-402r8r.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:25] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [12:26] *roy (~quassel@freenode-402r8r.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] *roy has quit (Z-lined) [12:26] *schestowitz_log has quit (Z-lined) [12:26] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [12:28] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:29] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:37] schestowitz-TR went to run errands [12:38] schestowitz-TR db still in good state since the work this morning [12:38] schestowitz-TR I monitor it closely [12:39] schestowitz-TR almost noboody wears maska anymore so it's self defence in the stor, even in quiet times [12:39] schestowitz-TR mask, second mask, shades, hat [12:39] schestowitz-TR I need a second mask that looks like the one of hannbal lector [12:39] schestowitz-TR it can buy me more distance [12:40] Techrights-sec yes earlier [12:40] Techrights-sec excellent [12:40] Techrights-sec tux machines 06:55, tux machines 09:00 [12:40] Techrights-sec just two hiccoughs noticed from here ^ [12:40] Techrights-sec almost no one does here either and [12:40] Techrights-sec supposedly there are now crowded concerts [12:40] Techrights-sec and other events happening and the shops are too crowded etc [12:40] Techrights-sec good [12:43] schestowitz-TR I carry heavier item like carton of soya drink [12:43] schestowitz-TR rianne is better at finding the expensive things cheaply [12:43] schestowitz-TR takes time, but the savings add up to a salary [12:43] schestowitz-TR I hope to have better sleep tonight [12:43] Techrights-sec nice [12:43] schestowitz-TR it was also too cold and window was open [12:43] schestowitz-TR one upside is, along the way I learn some dba-like skills and utils [12:48] schestowitz-TR I can cope with low temps, we have home-wide heating, but it has been off since 2019 [12:48] schestowitz-TR our electric+gas bill for this month is 85 [12:48] schestowitz-TR now with extra power for the aquarium [12:48] schestowitz-TR but I try to dry-shave more and use the hot water a lot (or coffee machine) [12:48] schestowitz-TR my friend mike (home of a couple) paid 250 per month [12:48] schestowitz-TR insane! [12:48] schestowitz-TR not including the money he spends pumping gas into his reasonably oversized vehicle [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: in the late 80's I read the account of shipwreck survivor; [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: it went down in the Great Lakes during winter and he attribued [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: survival in the raft to toughening up with an open window all winter [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: his story was quite surreal as it involved a lot of dreams and [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: hallucinations as he was near to freezing to death; all the other [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: from the ship had already frozen to death long before he was rescued [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: in the late 80's I read the account of shipwreck survivor; [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: it went down in the Great Lakes during winter and he attribued [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: survival in the raft to toughening up with an open window all winter [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: his story was quite surreal as it involved a lot of dreams and [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: hallucinations as he was near to freezing to death; all the other [12:48] Techrights-sec otr: from the ship had already frozen to death long before he was rescued [12:49] Techrights-sec practice is always good if it comes in handy later [12:49] Techrights-sec practice is always good if it comes in handy later [12:56] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [12:56] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [12:56] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 04 [13:22] schestowitz-TR got 5 errors related to the search table [13:22] schestowitz-TR repairing now [13:22] schestowitz-TR now as alarming as some errors I saw yesterday [13:22] schestowitz-TR I do not even know if it's related to the storage layer at the disk/OS [13:29] Techrights-sec I am not so experienced with databases as to be able to guess why the tables [13:29] Techrights-sec appear to be curdling spontaneously [13:34] schestowitz-TR of note: tuxmachines has write operations around the clock for site updates [13:34] schestowitz-TR so rollbacks are rarely a fallback [13:34] schestowitz-TR DB replication is overkill [13:34] schestowitz-TR this is not critical data [13:34] schestowitz-TR the tables will need to protect the most are nodes and comments [13:34] schestowitz-TR stuff like block_cache or search_index are almost disposable [13:34] schestowitz-TR and this is why despite 3-4 days of error nothing was noticed until you [13:34] schestowitz-TR said something [13:34] Techrights-sec still it would be reassuring to be able to prevent [13:34] Techrights-sec we can't "protect" the important tables without knowing how to prevent [13:34] Techrights-sec the errors in the peripheral tables IMO [13:34] Techrights-sec Is LDC sufficiently reliable? [13:34] Techrights-sec s/LDC/LXC/ [13:37] schestowitz-TR canonical [13:37] schestowitz-TR each company makes up its own "container" 'solution' [13:37] schestowitz-TR and then 'skills' become knowing some interfaces [13:37] schestowitz-TR for the abstractions [13:38] Techrights-sec yes and the containers are effectively blobs because no one outside a specific [13:38] Techrights-sec department at the originating company can actually know the secrets behind [13:38] Techrights-sec putting it together. Such projects as BigBlueButton come to mind but there [13:38] Techrights-sec are others. [13:40] schestowitz-TR thie is how theel sell support: red hat, squiz matrix... seen it [13:40] schestowitz-TR they like it when things break ' a little' and nobody knows how to save the systems [13:40] schestowitz-TR so they sign some overkill support contract [13:40] schestowitz-TR their "certified" minions put that shit inside company's systems and then leave [13:46] Techrights-sec it's a way of working around copyleft and doing proprietary actions [13:46] schestowitz-TR it is different [13:46] schestowitz-TR not proprietary [13:46] schestowitz-TR badge-ware [13:46] schestowitz-TR with "proprietarty" defects [13:48] schestowitz-TR to who, running TM or TR is like "piracy" because all the pieces are quite the commodity [13:48] schestowitz-TR or we are "free riding" [13:48] schestowitz-TR from the POV of the companies [13:48] schestowitz-TR wordpress.com prob has some support contracts [13:50] Techrights-sec WP is overly complex and is using that, along with some exagerated design flaws, [13:50] Techrights-sec to pull in money. It's been turned so nasty that most peope just give in [13:50] Techrights-sec and hire someone else to run it for them; that does not make the [13:50] Techrights-sec security problems related to the methods they have chosen for automated updates [13:50] Techrights-sec go away at all [13:51] schestowitz 2013: https://techrights.org/2013/10/31/wordpress-automatic-update/ [13:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Techrights ● Jul 04 [14:00] Techrights-sec checking [14:00] Techrights-sec Yes, it's a double back door: remote login + over FTP ● Jul 04 [15:06] Techrights-sec digging through blog RSS feeds again [15:07] schestowitz-TR your feeds helped a lot in weaning us off gulag noise [15:07] schestowitz-TR which was years overdue in retrospect, as I spent time and got angered by that [15:07] schestowitz-TR I cannot produce many stories today [15:07] schestowitz-TR not because of TM (last error was 3 hours ago) [15:07] schestowitz-TR but due to slow news [15:08] Techrights-sec np [15:08] Techrights-sec there are still RSS feeds to discover but there are still too many good sites [15:08] Techrights-sec which lack feeds of any kind [15:08] Techrights-sec the slow news is an ongoing problem and the pair of links about furtjher [15:08] Techrights-sec cuts to journalism give a heads up that it will get slower still later this year [15:11] schestowitz-TR rianne read to me billbc headline 2 hours ago [15:11] schestowitz-TR it's about expecting food prices to soar some more [15:11] schestowitz-TR contradicting utter bs my dad told me the other day [15:11] schestowitz-TR he's usually clueless on things [15:11] schestowitz-TR but overconfident [15:11] schestowitz-TR today's 8 bangers cost 39p, i.e. 0.05 pounds per sausage [15:11] schestowitz-TR last nigght I promised myself to focus on TM and not worry abotu writing new articles [15:11] schestowitz-TR TM is more important atm [15:11] Techrights-sec is he afflicted by Facebook? [15:11] Techrights-sec ack [15:11] schestowitz-TR so far we published about 30 nodes since midnight and it's only 3pm [15:12] schestowitz-TR he does not 'use' FB [15:12] schestowitz-TR but maybe a passive, second-hand smoker [15:12] schestowitz-TR as many around him do use the thing [15:13] schestowitz-TR I think I deleted his FB account for him twice, not once [15:13] schestowitz-TR after he had asked me to about a decade ago [15:14] Techrights-sec could be; it is a terrible fountain of disinformation [15:17] schestowitz-TR money is not a bottleneck, the hosting is a favour/charitable [15:17] Techrights-sec this site is still indexed: [15:17] Techrights-sec https://justice4assange.org/Asylum-illegally-terminated.html [15:17] Techrights-sec but seems removed from the net recently. Any idea? [15:17] Techrights-sec ok I understand, and really appreciate the valuable contribution, [15:17] Techrights-sec but it seems we are slowing painting ourselves into a corner regarding the OS [15:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Failed connect to justice4assange.org:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://justice4assange.org/Asylum-illegally-terminated.html ) [15:19] schestowitz-TR ack [15:19] Techrights-sec and there is so much of the current work flow which could be improved with [15:19] Techrights-sec current tools [15:26] schestowitz-TR do you still rsync across TR files, imc. TM dumps? [15:26] schestowitz-TR the major "assets" are the databases [15:26] schestowitz-TR and we need copies of the files too [15:26] schestowitz-TR a lot of these files, like epo stuff, are uniquely hosted by us [15:26] schestowitz-TR so we are the sole preserver [15:26] schestowitz-TR which is a bit scary and a burden [15:26] schestowitz-TR people trust us to keep them online, it took sacrifice [15:26] schestowitz-TR I'm off work till weds 1am [15:26] schestowitz-TR my #1 goal is to keep all that info online and widely accessible [15:26] schestowitz-TR aside from personal goals like not being a shitty husband [15:26] schestowitz-TR rianne is understanding unlike the girl I dated who said "I don't like it" [15:26] schestowitz-TR and who worked for a paralegal or something [15:26] schestowitz-TR ("it" referred to the activism) [15:27] Techrights-sec sometimes; however rsync has not worked for that of late; sftp does work [15:27] Techrights-sec "be excellent to eachother" [15:27] Techrights-sec ack [15:28] schestowitz-TR going to fanalise another batch now [15:28] schestowitz-TR it's a good way to keep the site active when I have nothing special to say [15:32] Techrights-sec news deserts can be a topic [15:32] Techrights-sec since that's one of the things which came up indirectly today [15:32] schestowitz-TR random point: [15:32] schestowitz-TR for TM and TR, JUST BEING ONLINE and serving pages is in itself a "winning" move [15:32] schestowitz-TR it's a race against outside threats, inc. tech rot [15:32] schestowitz-TR like I said before, many "big" news sites like IDG's *world have shut down [15:32] schestowitz-TR they need migrations and sys admins to keep those running [15:32] schestowitz-TR and if they don't have no "content" (salaried writers), then traffic is low [15:32] schestowitz-TR and cost of tech people becomes harder to justify [15:32] schestowitz-TR we, however, run on shoestring budget [15:32] schestowitz-TR like RMS who said he himself does not need a salary [15:32] schestowitz-TR shithub was never "free" hosting [15:33] Techrights-sec what are the repercussions of techdirt no longe self-hosting and moving [15:33] Techrights-sec to what amounts to a backdoored system [15:33] Techrights-sec [15:34] schestowitz-TR I am not familiar with what techdirt ran on before as all pages were served through clownflare [15:34] schestowitz-TR which masks the origin of pages among other things [15:35] schestowitz-TR phoronix does the same [15:35] schestowitz-TR (phoronix too has slow news syndrome today) [15:35] Techrights-sec ack [15:38] schestowitz-TR a) slow news syndrome = I shall write about an absolute shit (instead of not writing at all) [15:38] schestowitz-TR b) techdirt can not be muzzled by threatening the host, which iirc is increasidnly dmca-friendlty [15:38] schestowitz-TR and does not want to spend money on lawyers in court [15:38] schestowitz-TR techdirt pulled one key writers from that broadband news site you mentioned the other day [15:38] schestowitz-TR karl iirc [15:38] schestowitz-TR bode? [15:38] schestowitz-TR the one you said was deteriorating [15:38] Techrights-sec not sure [15:40] Techrights-sec Broadbandbreakfast is going south [15:41] schestowitz-TR that's the one [15:41] schestowitz-TR karl bode iirc was the name [15:41] schestowitz-TR he started writing for techdirt many years ago [15:41] schestowitz-TR maybe they lost other pivotal people [15:46] schestowitz-TR if a site spends 50% of the time writing stuff and 50% of the time protecting what was published (curation, preservation) [15:46] schestowitz-TR that;''s fiar, provided the latter is in fact... effective [15:46] schestowitz-TR if it's a 90to-10 ratio, OK... writing does not even mean literally writing, maybe 80% reading and learning, 20% putting in words [15:46] schestowitz-TR the conclusions [15:46] schestowitz-TR right now we agonise a bit over the latter and deal with the tech, but that's a normal thing every now and then [15:46] schestowitz-TR we already hopped between servers about 5 times already [15:47] Techrights-sec coud be, I don't track the names like I should [15:47] Techrights-sec 9-to-5-linux is a good site, but I don't check it sine you have that covered [15:49] schestowitz-TR marius manages that for us [15:49] schestowitz-TR the pipeline is, he posts in TM within minutes [15:49] schestowitz-TR I grabbed it from there and then it goes into TR daily links [15:49] schestowitz-TR he doesn't tolerate trash like "openshift" or WSL or... [15:49] Techrights-sec awesome! [15:49] Techrights-sec excellent [15:49] schestowitz-TR so no time-wasting [15:53] schestowitz-TR side story [15:53] schestowitz-TR today when I repaired the DB he submitted the weekly roundup and double posted it due to my word causing timeout [15:53] schestowitz-TR I unpublished the latter of the two [15:53] schestowitz-TR this is why moving away from drupal would be a major problem [15:53] schestowitz-TR other authors/editors [15:53] schestowitz-TR and a particular workflow [15:53] schestowitz-TR soon 4 hours since last error in mysql.log [15:54] schestowitz-TR I am trying to correlate events with error, maybe it's something that triggers this [15:54] schestowitz-TR we had much bigger problems when we put the ddos protection in there [15:54] schestowitz-TR or when I had to manually resubmit about 70 nodes [15:54] schestowitz-TR due to a very important table breaking apart (not for the first time) [15:54] schestowitz-TR node_revisions is not so important [15:54] schestowitz-TR it's like interim versions of node [15:54] schestowitz-TR index and cache for search and blocks, respectively, are self-healing afaik [15:57] schestowitz-TR some people's personality is unfit for this as they give up fast [15:57] schestowitz-TR masnick suffered a long lawsuit and still managed to get back to writintg [15:57] schestowitz-TR unlikle, say, om malik afeter he had a minor heart attack/stroke [15:57] schestowitz-TR julian assange had a small stoke this past october and even if he gets relased to austrlian [15:57] schestowitz-TR I think too much damage was done for him to get back to wikileaks as active [15:57] schestowitz-TR contributor. much can be said about rms and esr, maybe even lbt (torvalds) [15:57] schestowitz-TR all 3 suffered what I would call 'traumatising' episodes [15:59] Techrights-sec masnick is not 100% any more though ● Jul 04 [16:00] schestowitz-TR i admired masnick when he wrote 10 long posts per day [16:00] schestowitz-TR how TF did he do that?? [16:00] schestowitz-TR Now it's a lot less [16:00] schestowitz-TR like Linus with his SUnday release announcements [16:00] schestowitz-TR he's there, but it's not the same persona [16:00] schestowitz-TR or RMS being an appeaser of sorts [16:00] Techrights-sec assange will never be back, that was a secondary goal of the attack, [16:00] Techrights-sec the primary goal is against subsequent journalism and journalists [16:00] Techrights-sec yes in the past Masnick was great [16:00] Techrights-sec CoC ? [16:03] schestowitz-TR no, conditions upon "return" [16:03] schestowitz-TR afaik, someone prefilters his personal posts and he doesn't do media interviews and such [16:03] schestowitz-TR they fear anoter "cancel wave" [16:03] schestowitz-TR empahsis on they [16:03] schestowitz-TR not an oddball word but literally several people who control the FSF rather than follow [16:03] schestowitz-TR a leader like it was... for nearly 35 years [16:07] Techrights-sec yep [16:07] Techrights-sec ack [16:09] schestowitz-TR Pamela Jones vanished completely [16:09] schestowitz-TR RMS is controlled by people whose life style requires a salary and whose salary is paid by members and "patrons", so in some [16:09] schestowitz-TR sense the FSF is controlled by this thirst for funds and people who pocket these funds (greg, zoe..) now control [16:09] schestowitz-TR what RMS can and cannot say, who he can speak to/associate with [16:09] schestowitz-TR so it's FSF with "not so much freedom" of association or speech [16:09] schestowitz-TR sad to say... [16:09] schestowitz-TR companies don't give money "for free" [16:09] schestowitz-TR they buy into the brand [16:09] schestowitz-TR librem, PIA, Mozilla, Gulag... [16:09] schestowitz-TR BTW, our very very "Linux " lamer Gardiner now promotes dos shit for... steam dreck [16:09] schestowitz-TR he's like a commercials channel of valve [16:09] schestowitz-TR I did not even click, just link [16:09] schestowitz-TR it's still gnu/linux/kde behind those laywers of FS lock-down and DRM [16:10] schestowitz-TR fs=file system [16:10] schestowitz-TR corporate donors = doping [16:10] schestowitz-TR you shorten your life [16:10] schestowitz-TR wait till the drugs fuck aorund with internal affairs (or organs) [16:10] schestowitz-TR the "patrons" threaten to leave and you get cold feet [16:10] schestowitz-TR it's not a surstinable operative mode [16:10] schestowitz-TR *model [16:10] schestowitz-TR like gullagtruber who quit their job and/or dropped out of college [16:10] schestowitz-TR and start "algospeak" and stuff to get "monetised" better [16:10] schestowitz-TR like provoking homeless people [16:10] schestowitz-TR or not mentioning "offending" subjects [16:11] Techrights-sec ack [16:11] Techrights-sec the corporate shilling gives a temporary infusion of money in exchange for [16:11] Techrights-sec a permanent loss of audience and community support [16:11] Techrights-sec money buys silence on a lot of topics, look at NPR / PBS for bad examples [16:12] schestowitz-TR both took gates bribes at least a decade ago and ever since, on conditional repreats [16:12] schestowitz-TR so they must behave [16:12] schestowitz-TR the strings as the conditional "renewal" from the cliernt [16:12] schestowitz-TR now NPR is also funded by Microsoft [16:12] schestowitz-TR double-dipping [16:15] Techrights-sec m$ buys support [16:15] Techrights-sec LF is out to kill Linux as brand [16:15] Techrights-sec especially in regards to the kernel [16:18] schestowitz-TR any client you lose = colleagues who might be laid off [16:18] schestowitz-TR LF took that to a whole new level [16:18] schestowitz-TR Linux as a brand became more "mainstream", except not as a kernel [16:18] schestowitz-TR but a junkword [16:18] schestowitz-TR Microsoft "green" datacentres, "endorsed" by Linux(TM) [16:18] schestowitz-TR I did not chedck if Bryan Luinduke's calculations are accurate, but he said 1% or 3% of LF funds go towards ACTUAL Linux [16:18] schestowitz-TR imagine us giving to elephant charities (we donate about 5 times a year) only to discover the elephants get mere cents [16:18] schestowitz-TR we woould be up in arms [16:19] Techrights-sec yes that, if true, ought to be hammered on -- 3% [16:20] schestowitz-TR I don't know how he calculated it, did not pass the smell test at all [16:20] schestowitz-TR maybe he just added up the salaries for 3 kernel hackers [16:20] schestowitz-TR but not various associated activities and operationas [16:20] Techrights-sec I don;t suppose he can be approached to follow up on that [16:21] schestowitz-TR you would have to chip in for that one-hour session with Mr. "Linux Sucks" [16:21] schestowitz-TR it's billed at $300 per hour [16:21] schestowitz-TR ;-) [16:22] Techrights-sec e he can be approached to follow up on that [16:22] Techrights-sec :( [16:25] schestowitz-TR today I reminder rianne next month we go to the solicitor regarding naturalisation and passport [16:25] schestowitz-TR two separate processes [16:25] schestowitz-TR next week we might know the outcome of our request to work saturday until sunday evening (5:30), then free 128 hours [16:25] schestowitz-TR hard to predict the outcome, it's guy feeling [16:25] schestowitz-TR this solicitor does not rip us off at all, it's like massive discount and effective [16:25] schestowitz-TR they're from HK I think, but born here [16:25] Techrights-sec great [16:25] Techrights-sec that is important to have settled [16:25] Techrights-sec ack [16:26] schestowitz-TR we can retire ok as weekend-only sys admin/noc, assuming we can last another decade [16:26] schestowitz-TR in this veyr volatile world [16:26] schestowitz-TR TM DB ok for 4.5 hours now [16:31] Techrights-sec ack [16:31] Techrights-sec 4.5 is short though, a small fraction of a full day [16:32] schestowitz-TR yes, but an improvement [16:32] schestowitz-TR it also impacts recoverable tables [16:32] schestowitz-TR rmemeber that some issues mysteriously go away [16:32] schestowitz-TR like that issue we had months ago with TR apache just 'hanging' [16:32] schestowitz-TR for no known reason [16:33] Techrights-sec ack [16:46] schestowitz-TR I know it sounds like superstitutious nonsense [16:46] schestowitz-TR and terrible sys admining [16:46] schestowitz-TR but sometimes we solve issues [16:46] schestowitz-TR sometimes it's "that too shalt pass" [16:46] schestowitz-TR maybe it's even a bug due to some node input with emoji shit [16:46] schestowitz-TR the DB REALLY hate emojis [16:46] schestowitz-TR so very much [16:46] schestowitz-TR it's "too new" [16:46] schestowitz-TR meanwhile I've run a script to lower load on that VM and see if maybe the spikes contributed to this issue [16:46] schestowitz-TR as kaniini did mention high i/o [16:46] schestowitz-TR some search queries and other things can hammer away at the DB for minutes [16:47] schestowitz-TR we can neutralise these proavtively [16:47] schestowitz-TR we have a fossil db [16:47] schestowitz-TR the tools I used today are very old and considered obsolete over a decade ago [16:47] schestowitz-TR due to the storage engine [16:47] schestowitz-TR xrevan explained to me earlier this year that migration away from this torage engine would not be simple [16:47] schestowitz-TR at all [16:47] schestowitz-TR at one point I can use exporters I downloaded specifically for drupal 6 and for static CMS [16:47] schestowitz-TR one envisioned path is make "old" site and then start afresh with same RSS feed address [16:47] schestowitz-TR when all other options run out [16:48] Techrights-sec ack [16:49] schestowitz-TR ota [16:49] schestowitz-TR (just did daily links) [16:49] schestowitz-TR ota ● Jul 04 [17:16] schestowitz-TR done [17:16] schestowitz-TR windows in turkey 9.8% now lol [17:17] schestowitz-TR its military was first to move to gnu/linux [17:17] schestowitz-TR media hardly mentioned it [17:17] schestowitz-TR I think sam varghese did [17:17] schestowitz-TR (first in turkey) [17:17] schestowitz-TR then italy [17:17] Techrights-sec ack [17:17] Techrights-sec so is Turkey hardening its cyberdefenses in prep for a conflict with Europe? [17:17] Techrights-sec The French Gendarmerie was first IIRC [17:17] Techrights-sec Italy is doing ok in that regard too [17:17] Techrights-sec ok [17:30] schestowitz-TR drafting [17:30] schestowitz-TR repetitive on subjects [17:30] schestowitz-TR but an importasnt one [17:30] schestowitz-TR and undercovered [17:30] schestowitz-TR not yet [17:30] schestowitz-TR 5 mins [17:30] schestowitz-TR ok, ready now [17:30] Techrights-sec ok [17:30] Techrights-sec checking [17:34] schestowitz-TR credit to psydroid2 for noticing the trends in turkey [17:34] schestowitz-TR I hadn't seen it till he told me [17:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [17:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 04 [18:05] schestowitz-TR ok [18:05] schestowitz-TR ack [18:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [18:08] schestowitz-TR done [18:08] schestowitz-TR published [18:08] schestowitz-TR didn't even realise rianne gave me the portland shirt [18:08] schestowitz-TR my sister will leave the place some time... [18:08] schestowitz-TR 6+ hours now without mysql.log entry... best since around 27/6/2022 [18:08] schestowitz-TR maybe keeping i/o lower will lower the probability of issues [18:08] schestowitz-TR I'm still testing cause and effect [18:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:25] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:25] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [18:25] Techrights-sec ok [18:25] Techrights-sec ack [18:26] schestowitz-TR 6pm, 39 new/updated nodes in tuxmachines [18:26] schestowitz-TR on july 4th! [18:26] schestowitz-TR happiness is a relative thing [18:26] schestowitz-TR I'm happy the site is managing to cope now [18:26] schestowitz-TR I'll monitor is super closely overnight [18:26] schestowitz-TR thanks for reporting the isuse [18:26] schestowitz-TR if you hadn't said anything, I'd likely only notice when things started breaking in a more visible way [18:26] schestowitz-TR like "cannot add new nodes" [18:26] schestowitz-TR or site won't even run [18:28] Techrights-sec np [18:29] schestowitz-TR checking now [18:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:36] schestowitz-TR photo number 15 [18:36] schestowitz-TR \ [18:37] schestowitz-TR I like photo #11 better [18:37] schestowitz-TR there is some occlusion that ruins it though [18:37] schestowitz-TR high res photo, so it can be cropped into a rectangle [18:37] schestowitz-TR parade of the electric cords in #1 [18:37] schestowitz-TR brb, writing something about gemini:// [18:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2j5w6p4xa88vq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:57] schestowitz-TR draft [18:57] schestowitz-TR btw to have any graden at all where we are (town, stadium) isn't easy [18:57] schestowitz-TR so even a little one is valuable [18:57] schestowitz-TR I will embed the video "web we had" [18:57] Techrights-sec true [18:57] Techrights-sec ok [18:57] Techrights-sec btw +1 : "on a daily basis we have over 100 unique visitors in the capsule. Not counting the Web proxies" [18:57] Techrights-sec s/. Not/, not/ ● Jul 04 [19:13] schestowitz-TR last night I programmed ipfs to start automatically at 3am or reset itself at that time [19:14] schestowitz-TR for the time being I'm OK with it turned on most of the day [19:14] schestowitz-TR the improvments made to cope with connection timeouts are valuable either way [19:14] schestowitz-TR as they make the capsule refreshers more robust [19:14] schestowitz-TR rianne and I don't intend to put the pi on wifi again [19:14] schestowitz-TR its has its own nice little corner safe from human contact (almost) [19:14] schestowitz-TR and from the fish splashing water nearby [19:22] Techrights-sec ack [19:22] Techrights-sec it is faster without wifi anyway [19:23] schestowitz-TR that too [19:23] schestowitz-TR spamnil has gone on for a month now without clickfraud [19:23] schestowitz-TR rehabilitation [19:49] Techrights-sec I doubt he has reformed. 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