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| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | Aug 04 01:26 |
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| schestowitz-TR | 24 hours later the copying of ~gemini still goes on | Aug 04 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it's done I'll do some more tests, then clone the system again (to have a spare) | Aug 04 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | because sealing the device and figuring out how to handle ipfs | Aug 04 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I just want gemini resotred fully first (not an older clone) | Aug 04 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | For the sixth time in 2 days, 'Linux Today' posts spammy "plugs" as "news". http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/ | Aug 04 01:33 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Weird Editorial Choices in ‘Linux Today’ These Past Few Hours (Updatedx4) | Techrights | Aug 04 01:33 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Sam Varghese no longer covers GNU/Linux or rebuts Microsoft lies. It's shallow fluff such as https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html | Aug 04 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html ) | Aug 04 02:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 02:05] <schestowitz> itwire.com | Aug 04 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:05] <schestowitz> Checking if the site connection is secure | Aug 04 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:05] <schestowitz> Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue | Aug 04 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:05] <schestowitz> itwire.com needs to review the security of your connection before proceeding. | Aug 04 02:06 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Recusing myself from Outreachy applicant selection decisions, | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > internships funding | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:37:46 +0200 | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > Hey all, | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > As of today, the person I'm involved with, Pauline Pommeret, is applying | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > to an | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > Outreachy internship in Debian (on the GPG cleanroom environment project - I | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > don't see her mail on the list archive yet, so something must have gone | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > wrong, | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > but it should arrive soon enough). | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > To avoid an obvious conflict of interest, I am recusing myself for any | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > decisions regarding applicant selections for this round. | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > I am of course still happy to serve as a liaison with the Outreachy program | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > administrators, and to forward our applicants to them for general | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > funding when | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > selected, if the money allocated by Debian runs out. | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > This would especially be relevant, in my opinion, to RTC projects, as | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > I'm not | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > sure at all that we should fund them from Debian money directly. Karen | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > Sandler | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > also told me that one of the Outreachy sponsors was interested in funding | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > interns on Reproducible Builds. All in all, we should be able to have two or | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > three internship slots with Debian only disbursing one. | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > I'll stay on the outreach@d.o alias for now, but let me know if you need | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > help | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > ranking applicants, and I'll ask DSA to remove me so you can discuss at | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > ease. | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > Cheers, | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > -- Nicolas Dandrimont | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/ | Aug 04 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout) | Aug 04 04:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/ | Aug 04 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020 | Aug 04 04:26 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | gm! | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | excellent, thanks | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini is almost fully restored for TR, but rsync still going | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | gm | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-generate-feed is fixed, it was quick to find the problem | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | please give it a test | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | gm | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | tm-generate-feed is fixed, it was quick to find the problem | Aug 04 05:05 |
| Techrights-sec | please give it a test | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz | Record added | Aug 04 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Can't locate object method "disconect" via package "DBI::db" at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321. | Aug 04 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3 at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321. | Aug 04 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Can't locate object method "disconect" via package "DBI::db" at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321. | Aug 04 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Issuing rollback() due to DESTROY without explicit disconnect() of DBD::SQLite::db handle dbname=/var/www/tuxmachines.org/db/tm-static-site-generator.sqlite3 at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 321. | Aug 04 05:07 |
| Techrights-sec | wait, I have to copy the file :/ | Aug 04 05:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ok, for some reason the git clone is not getting updated automatically | Aug 04 05:08 |
| Techrights-sec | by the update script | Aug 04 05:08 |
| Techrights-sec | testing on site ... | Aug 04 05:08 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, there are some other weirdnesses, the script works locally but not | Aug 04 05:17 |
| Techrights-sec | on tm-new | Aug 04 05:17 |
| Techrights-sec | checking ... | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | planet gemini fully restored and tested now | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | the main thing I 'lost' was a couple of lines in crontabs | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I can bring back from memory | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some days' gemini archives | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | OS-wise I think the only changes we made since the last cloning was adding throttling scripts and sudoers | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll have to go through a list of items to restore, which I wrote down | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, is an SD card becomes unbootable | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | any chance of or reason to try to rewrite things to it afresh? | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | like using the "bad" card as a clone for the USB system? | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | just tested the 16GB cars, the one I got with the pi | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | root cannot be mounted | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | only boot and settings | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 partitions | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the debian 10 card | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | nothing in the 32GB one can even be mounted afaict | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I assume card damage | Aug 04 05:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried it on two laptop while under time pressure due to long outage and other issues | Aug 04 05:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne's clone card seems to work perectly OK, as it ought to | Aug 04 05:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I'd not trust this latest 32GB one | Aug 04 05:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | San Disk, but lasted barely 7 months | Aug 04 05:30 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 05:30 |
| Techrights-sec | seems solved now, Git is still confusing and the old files were still present | Aug 04 05:37 |
| Techrights-sec | and a lot of small changes have been pushed with now, finally, show up | Aug 04 05:37 |
| Techrights-sec | in the clone | Aug 04 05:37 |
| Techrights-sec | IPFS is very write intensive, that might be a factor in the short lives of | Aug 04 05:37 |
| Techrights-sec | the microSD cards | Aug 04 05:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, are gemini permissions suffient for gemserv to send the gmi files? | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot get to any of them over gemini:// | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I assume this is far from finalised | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll go get rest soon, been up all night | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/ | Aug 04 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/ ) | Aug 04 05:44 | |
| schestowitz-TR | at bottom, a new reference from the US gov. | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | on how getting infected messes up the brain | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | permanently, based on a study | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | published july 2020 | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, 2022 | Aug 04 05:46 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Aug 04 05:46 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 07:42 |
| Techrights-sec | double checked the update scripts, they seem to work | Aug 04 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini rsync done | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | now copying in the missing bulletins and irc log files (text, html, gmi) | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | will later test as a sanity | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | check. | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am going to reboot this machine shortly, I want to also be sure the SD slot works OK | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did a lot of work on it during the outage, worried I might have damaged something | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | though judging by the state of the card, it's just the card itself having a defect | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll try to boot rianne's clone on it just to be sure | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | then back to USB | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | would you suggest cloning from USB to USB or USB to sd card? I'd have to buy a spare (still undecided on how to do IPFS) | Aug 04 08:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | UDPATE: 9am - so rianne's microsd backup is fine, the sd slot works fine, it boots nicely and fast on | Aug 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | my pi. I'll now finalise things here, still undecided on ipfs, then make a newer clone of rianne's | Aug 04 09:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | machine to that same card. She uses that machine for NOC a lot. | Aug 04 09:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | all set up and tidied up | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | took me a while to recall that in tcp logger I needed to set it to eth0 | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's all set in homedirs | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you seE? not OS files... | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | when done, I'll clone the OS again | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | fixed now | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | last time (first outage 2 monmths ago) | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I grepped for wlan0 | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll do it again and push to git in case it's not done already | Aug 04 09:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems I already pushed those changes, commented out wlan and explained when to change that over | Aug 04 09:56 |
| Techrights-sec | great | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm still wondering how to manage the system customizations for tm-new | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | a Git repository would lose the file permissions and such settings | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | but simply copying to a spare directory hierarchy and tar'ing that | Aug 04 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec | would not track changes | Aug 04 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've restored the hourly updates to planet | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think the IRC reminders were one liners in crontab files | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I did not backup to ~pi/crontab | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | recently enough | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not much lost, just some one-liner, which probably annoys anyway | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | chat should refrresh as often as the ddos wqatcher refreshes, | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it runs, which it does not, every 10 mins | Aug 04 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Aug 04 10:14 |
| Techrights-sec | how often does gemini.techrights.org/chat/ get refreshed? | Aug 04 10:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 10:14 |
| Techrights-sec | It says Aug 03 for some reason, today is Aug 04 | Aug 04 10:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | try NOW | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | updated OK, I can see it here now | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | at 4am symlinks will be created for some "missing" files | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I still don't know if I want to carry on running ipfs from the usb | Aug 04 10:24 |
| Techrights-sec | The date on the RPi is ok | Aug 04 10:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | started copying across ipfs files | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can change my mind later | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can take 1-2 days to copy! | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | upside of this incident (main downside was loss of unimportant things and loss of time) | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | network (wifi) OK again | Aug 04 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can mout external disk again | Aug 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | iptables works again | Aug 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it runs on usb, which I hope will last longer | Aug 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll try to get on with other stuff now | Aug 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | a "necessary" nuisance, not my fault (like the 2 outages) | Aug 04 10:25 |
| schestowitz | https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/gosling__Natural_Sounding_Text-to-Speech_in_the_Terminal.shtml symbol in the title seems to have been mishandled a bit | Aug 04 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — gosling â Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal | Aug 04 10:44 | |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | it's in the db ok so the problem lies with the extraction script | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | ok check the URL now | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks for spotting that, I think it's fixed and can be added to Git | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | hmm the deletion routine will have to be updated to handle removal of | Aug 04 11:02 |
| Techrights-sec | files from the Gemini hierachy, too. | Aug 04 11:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry for late response | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | re-ran end of month tasks on the pi | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | as the last backup was right before end of month | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | also posted Daily Links just now | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of Gemini catchup in these | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | no politics yet | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I also feel lucky this week is as dry as a tumble | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | news-wise | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | so not much temptation to cover things, putting out fires instead | Aug 04 11:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | hopefully no more outages for another 16 years, except those caused by us (fuse) | Aug 04 11:10 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 11:15 |
| Techrights-sec | major electrical outages are a PITA | Aug 04 11:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | on /home/gemini (tux-machines-new) | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | /n has + in permissions | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2022 hasn't | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | a limitation which I'm not sure imperils public access to nodes there | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't investigate yet | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm just "protecting" dirs with blank index.gmi | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | though I think all gemini servers would serve nothing regardless | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't do directory listings | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I see now, group membership exluded from writing | Aug 04 11:16 |
| Techrights-sec | checking permisssions (ACLs are a necessary evil to overcome umask settings | Aug 04 11:16 |
| Techrights-sec | in a group situation) | Aug 04 11:16 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, the settings are correct | Aug 04 11:16 |
| Techrights-sec | the subdirectories need correction though | Aug 04 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | this helps explain why you could add to gemini and I could not | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you own the dirs and no "w" for group | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | group gemtext | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see you've g + w | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the dummy index.gmi I put there can be later made to list something for year, month, date | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in techrights, in case navigation was ever to include that level of granularity, such as | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | monthly archives | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be similar in WWW | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | => January | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | => February | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | for crawlers' sake | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but probably far, far from an urgent need | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | /n/2022 is drwxrwsr-x without a + | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike /n and /n/2022/[months] | Aug 04 11:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for pertinent days only 8/4 is + | Aug 04 11:26 |
| Techrights-sec | yes the umask is a chronic problem in group work situations on EXT | Aug 04 11:34 |
| Techrights-sec | its enough if she tries a few per day, just to smoke out more bugs with | Aug 04 11:34 |
| Techrights-sec | either the software or the work flow | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for crawlers' sake | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but probably far, far from an urgent need | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | /n/2022 is drwxrwsr-x without a + | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike /n and /n/2022/[months] | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for pertinent days only 8/4 is + | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | later today I'll instruct rianne to post in parallel from account rianne | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | she did this as tuxmachines before | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | for now, images are not so important, so usually we can leave out the top part (image) | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | when pasting in tuxmachines-new | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | where GD fails, Features can be used as a fallback? I gues..? | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | going upstairs now to guide her | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think her pi clone is also complete now, full root backup, bootable | Aug 04 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | (back. her pi400 earns us a living, very valuable as a NOC with our biggest screen at home) | Aug 04 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | strongswan+openvpn+wireguard | Aug 04 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Aug 04 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | For what it's worth, it can handle two screens concurrently and save space | Aug 04 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | and electricity by obviating the need for one of the other computers. | Aug 04 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | she si now logged in, hunting for stories to post | Aug 04 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, she uses 2 machines | Aug 04 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | +1 NOC | Aug 04 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | so 3 | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | she used to do all the NOC stuff from her laptop, which is underpowered | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pi400 simplified things greatly | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would not work with 2 screens in the sense that the other 2 machines are single head and it cannot be "reused" by the pi | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and one gets used as a phone | Aug 04 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | we got our "corrected" gas bills again, second time in a week, | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | coz we don't allow spy meters | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | our power bills are still about 100 a month or 3.30 a day | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so maybe 1 for hot showers | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1 home alliances (ovens, laundry) | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and just over 1 per day for 5 laptops, 2 pis | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, 6 laptops, 2 pis, 5 external screens running 24/7 | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | +router, but that takes about as much a s router | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so energy prices aren't that high, albeit kliklely higher than food bills | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know people who pay a lot more just for "telly" and having temperature control (they don't want or cannot | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | keep it shut) | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | so the time is, to us, more valuable than some laptop voltage | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | when the laptops are idle or not used they dim down | Aug 04 11:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | a bit like "smart" lights except the sensors part | Aug 04 11:46 |
| Techrights-sec | yes laptops have kind of a buit-in UPS | Aug 04 11:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was told 2 months ago why the exchanges still work during outages | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have data and power retention built in | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so in theoryy during outages I can still surf the Web from the laptops | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | but only if the router keeps power | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I said, ok... if these outages take a while to solve (they found the culprit the second time around) | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll buy a UPS to share between the router and the pi, which is brittle | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3~ | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reminded rianne twice that millioniae Torvalds was offline for 6 days due to blixzzard storm in oregon | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | he never thought of getting a generator | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | or a satelliute link | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | to him that would be slush funds | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and help the project immensely | Aug 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | James and Sheela Microsoft probably cannot even wrap their heads around the idea of fallbacks like these | Aug 04 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | utes total | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | otr: of maintenance | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yes they have UPS on site, same for the mobile phone towers | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yes and the RPi has serial and gpio so it can be used to control the other | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | systems and power them down and then power itself down | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | power used to be reliable in the US. Not any more and now a disturbingly | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | large number of households have backup generators rather than forcing the | Aug 04 11:53 |
| Techrights-sec | politicians to fix the grid. | Aug 04 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it worsens (these 2 recent outages are first in 16 years, and both connected... should not be resolved as they replaced the damaged underground cable) | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will purchase a budget (about 50 pounds) UPC for the router and pi so I can carry on working even during blackout | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | also helps with the job, where being vigilant is the key function | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | not like programming, where one can say, I'll carry on later | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | a colleague also had an outage recently | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | not related to the weather, for sure (it's summer) | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | speaking of generators, rianne's parents live in a place where one is needed to add water pressure in case | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | you want a "proper" shower | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | some things are taken for granted | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the US, it seems, what used to work is takern away | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | good for generator companies | Aug 04 11:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the oil industry against electirc cars, I'm sure they're "lobby" (bribe) | Aug 04 11:57 |
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| Techrights-sec | yes same with the phones and just about everything there | Aug 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, rianne posted two nodes, the cloning of her pi is complete and she's feeling safer for the fallbacks | Aug 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | landlines sucking (happens here sometimes; voice quality) steers people towards tracking devices | Aug 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's more, what's left of public phone booths is poorly maintain, rarely works | Aug 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "can I use your landline" would be "can I borrow your mobile?" | Aug 04 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | devuan | Aug 04 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167992 | Aug 04 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! | Tux Machines | Aug 04 12:11 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Excellent news! I am glad to read that more distros are beginnging to track | Aug 04 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Devuan. It would have been easier for them to have made the switch back | Aug 04 12:12 |
| Techrights-sec | in 2014 but now is a good time too. Now is certainly better than later. | Aug 04 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | if we sort out the acl bit in "2022" dir, I can change my irc stuff to also post gemini links | Aug 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the path leading to 08/04 is OK except at that level | Aug 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | days prioe to 08/04 lack the extra acl permission | Aug 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, I think gemini is still not generated by default with add_and_refresh_from_db | Aug 04 12:21 |
| Techrights-sec | ok checking | Aug 04 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | try now | Aug 04 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | EXT sure is annoying | Aug 04 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec | checking *.sh | Aug 04 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | ooh! nice. | Aug 04 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the conversion to gemtext is very good | Aug 04 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and shows a legend of news items in lagrange | Aug 04 12:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it does in techrights daily links, similar format... | Aug 04 12:30 |
| Techrights-sec | The conversion is less advanced though. It can only handle things one layer | Aug 04 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | deep and no special classes. However, that should not be much of an issue | Aug 04 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | since as far as I know the posts are quite short and simple. | Aug 04 12:31 |
| Techrights-sec | The -a option can be added to (re-)generate the whole site, if run manually. | Aug 04 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to write something with sed to give us the gemini url, based on the http-xml feed | Aug 04 12:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | are newly-added nodes exported to gemini with new revisions, or should thatbe done manually for now? | Aug 04 12:35 |
| Techrights-sec | which context for the URL? It would be easier to add that to a perl script | Aug 04 12:36 |
| Techrights-sec | which already gets run, I would guess | Aug 04 12:36 |
| Techrights-sec | All three wrapper scripts now update Gemini, but it would be good to double | Aug 04 12:36 |
| Techrights-sec | check that old records are updated there too. | Aug 04 12:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to give that a test | Aug 04 12:37 |
| Techrights-sec | found more UTF 8 trouble :/ | Aug 04 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Emmabunt%C3%BCs:_On_August_1st,_2022,_Emma_DE4_2nd_update.shtml | Aug 04 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | at least it's getting into the db ok so those parts are good | Aug 04 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | the extraction script seems to be the weak point | Aug 04 12:41 |
| Techrights-sec | looking into it ... | Aug 04 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Emmabuntüs: On August 1st, 2022, Emma DE4 2nd update | Aug 04 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | I'm going to give that a test | Aug 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | atm I try to figure out why some long gemini urls in the navigation pane at the top give "Not Found" | Aug 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | the shorter urls work ok | Aug 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | still trying to understand the pattern | Aug 04 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec | yes /n/ is missing from the navigation | Aug 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I was just about to say the same | Aug 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it evades me at first | Aug 04 12:51 |
| Techrights-sec | working ... | Aug 04 13:05 |
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| schestowitz | Record added | Aug 04 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 388. | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Could not open '/home/gemini/gemini/n/2022/08/04/16_Best_Open-source_Free_Ghost_Blog_Themes_for_2022.gmi' for writing: Permission denied | Aug 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | roy:/home/gemini/gemini/n/2022/08/04% | Aug 04 13:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ok some improvements have been made but individual navigation links here | Aug 04 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | and there are broken, looking into that now | Aug 04 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | yes the wide character problem will not be addressed in the near future | Aug 04 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | it'll be a bit before I get the gemtext generator working enough to test | Aug 04 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | further | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see.. | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | the latter error means that when I add new node it'll empty existing gmi files | Aug 04 13:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to a permission error, I use my personal account | Aug 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | no worries, they can be regenerated, it is the db which is the important | Aug 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | component, and the db is ok for now | Aug 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | yes checking again, it is a matter of umask and forcing that with an ACL | Aug 04 13:23 |
| Techrights-sec | no error, only your and my account are in gemtext, rianne and marius need | Aug 04 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | to be added ... | Aug 04 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | all set | Aug 04 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | they are added now | Aug 04 13:26 |
| Techrights-sec | be sure to log in again if the group membership has not applied, but you've been | Aug 04 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | in the group for a long time | Aug 04 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | can amfora handle commas in URLs? Something is causing it to choke on links | Aug 04 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | it seems it cannot handle colons, maybe other punctuations as well | Aug 04 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996 ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.gmi | Aug 04 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines | Aug 04 13:32 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Aug 04 13:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | first of its kind ^ | Aug 04 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks! I'll try to add a new node now as "roy" | Aug 04 13:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not sure ay RFCs exist to specify allowed chars in URLs | Aug 04 13:32 |
| Techrights-sec | rats. that is the case. No one follows the specs anyway and ther are lots | Aug 04 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | of misunderstandings. Daniel Stenberg did a very good analysis of the problem | Aug 04 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | years ago. tldr; there is no common agreement anywhere about what goes into | Aug 04 13:33 |
| Techrights-sec | a URL, what is not allowed, and how it is structured. :/ | Aug 04 13:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I was about to say the same, but no need to change that retroactively | Aug 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's done is done | Aug 04 13:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe from now on, urls can omit or skip more symbols, or maybe use hyphens | Aug 04 13:34 |
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| Techrights-sec | Therefore the only way to allow the HTTP links to map to the Gemini links | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | would be to adjust how the HTTP links are written and remove the characters | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | which choke Gemini | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | no it's easy to fix retroactively; this is an alpha site anyway | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | yes the script can zap the punctuation, a problem is that there is a lot of | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | punctuation to choose from; perhaps there is a character class in perlre which | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | covers it | Aug 04 13:36 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the stanard for url is "works with ie" -> "works with ie +firefox" -> "works with chrom* + clones" | Aug 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | am literally falling asleep (almost) at my chair, back in an hour or two | Aug 04 13:38 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 16:06 |
| Techrights-sec | the POSIX class can be used in perl | Aug 04 16:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | back | Aug 04 16:06 |
| Techrights-sec | is the editing going ok? I see that the db is locked | Aug 04 16:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is an issue, I cannot enter data, it hands before it goes to nano | Aug 04 16:12 |
| Techrights-sec | yes it is locked by rianne | Aug 04 16:12 |
| Techrights-sec | hence the question | Aug 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | she posted while I was alseep, got stuck with the second one | Aug 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll go check | Aug 04 16:13 |
| Techrights-sec | thanks | Aug 04 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, not I understand why she got stuck | Aug 04 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | tried using the same slug, Android Leftovers, twice | Aug 04 16:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I explained to her how to avoid that | Aug 04 16:16 |
| Techrights-sec | did the script give a proper warning about the duplicate? | Aug 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | she did the right thing by stopping when she was not sure and told me right away when I woke upo | Aug 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't ask for the details | Aug 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and yes, the warning said another slug was needed | Aug 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | she now knows | Aug 04 16:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I told her use something like "2" or anything unique _for that day_ | Aug 04 16:19 |
| Techrights-sec | maybe there should be a unique, autoincrement number ther | Aug 04 16:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress automates it, adds a "2", or "3"... | Aug 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure I remember what drupal does uponm dupes | Aug 04 16:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | techrights has so many slugs I cannot even recall what would be unique, but it shows me suggestioins, before I decided... | Aug 04 16:21 |
| Techrights-sec | it'd be feasible to add, it would involve only the add and extract scripts | Aug 04 16:32 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Aug 04 16:32 |
| Techrights-sec | this too is improvised | Aug 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | you seem to have built a full scale, stripped down, gemini+http content management system | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | which afaik is a monster that barelyu exists | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | only improved things | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *improvised | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | everything starts this way | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | later generalised if it's of wider appeal | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | IF | Aug 04 16:33 |
| Techrights-sec | it's more generic than the tr version | Aug 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it looks like you already reused some code from there, I think sometimes convergence then becomes attrative | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | my script start as: | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1) do some shit | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2) write a command to do the same shit | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3) expand the comment to do that shit | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4) toss in a script named helpfully for late | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5) improve the script | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6) add comments, vars | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 7) add 'gui' (dialog or graphical... leanred not to do the latter due to past experiene doing very nice GUIS that only I myself ever used) | Aug 04 16:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | 8) version control | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | very few projects become mambo (extinct), zope | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | or even change the world likw wordpress | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress was a 'ripoof' of michel's ugly heck | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | b2 (france | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can still see the php gui of b2 | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was VERY simple | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress picked gpl | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of b2 | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | linux did the same | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and torvalds admits this is what got so mnay people involved in his "hobby" | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. some "raspe apologist" | Aug 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | gpl = if I hate Torvalds' guts, I take this whole shit and coordinate with other people who hate his guts | Aug 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | to do whatever we want with ALL the same code | Aug 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so Torvalkds must be nice... to people who deserve it | Aug 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mgj "forked" Linux in github | Aug 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody even joined that git... nobody with talent | Aug 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | mambo and jooma (and other one whose name I forgot) are connected through forking | Aug 04 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | *joomla | Aug 04 16:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the only project I did that became of wider appeal is TR | Aug 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | TM is not mine... it found appeal because of texstar, susan, and texstar's distro (pclos was #1 in distrowatch) putting TM in the Firefox bookm ark | Aug 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I installed PCLOS for my dad TM was already up there in his browser | Aug 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | from my understanding, drupal was set up by texstar (I spoke to him when we took over) and susan was his partner. she sold the site she | Aug 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | made with texstar when she remarried his former husband | Aug 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's personal, so I'll stop there | Aug 04 16:43 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 16:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 16:44 |
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| schestowitz-TR | observation | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | why did so many people help wordpress for free, myself included? | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | we were users | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we hacked at the code | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we engaged in the community | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | it became collective work | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | same with linux and early gnu/linux users | Aug 04 16:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | so for a cms it helps to get more people to deploy | Aug 04 16:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | then they maake improvements | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and give them back to youi (agpl) | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of them might be of use to you too | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I started at wordpress 1.2 IIRC | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | not long after it had started | Aug 04 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec | wp is not so good any more and more of a money mill for the company and | Aug 04 16:50 |
| Techrights-sec | for all practical purposes close despite being FOSS | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | when it became commercialised (Automattic) I increasingly lost interest | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's a lot of WP ftatigue now | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | not Wordperfect | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | because people realise 1,000-file CMS is not suitable for sites with 10 pages | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and all this automatic update stuff worsens the maintaenance overhead | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they need to get expensive hosting that includes backups, support, uypgrades... | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | like php upgrades, OS upgrades, lots of dependencies in WP | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | some months agoi a very small site, bytes media, took 1-2 hours of my time because after php upgrade | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | some code no longer worked | Aug 04 16:50 |
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| schestowitz-TR | and I had to fix the code by hand, otherwise blank pages | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | with sttaic pages it would at least give you something | Aug 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | years ago there was a react controversy in wordpress | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to the licence | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and my initial reactionm was | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | WTF? WTF dopes react do in wordpress (FB, bloat) | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe their new GUI and stuff | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | which can increase complexity instead of lowering it | Aug 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | feature churn | Aug 04 16:51 |
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| Techrights-sec | refreshed Gemtext documents and XHTML documents using the punctuation-free | Aug 04 16:59 |
| Techrights-sec | file names | Aug 04 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are LOADS os static site gnerators(generalised) vying to become the "statis wordpress'\ | Aug 04 16:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | but few are still actively maintained, | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | ghoist, hgo and jekyll are among the better known ones | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | the market does not reward many | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | it gravitates towards "hgegemony" like 6-EYES and systemd and Microsoft Windows... or Android in mobile | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | because being countercurrent is making life a little harder | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | "why don't you just use X like everyone else?" | Aug 04 17:00 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunately so | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | banks say that a lot | Aug 04 17:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | wordpress was not alwats "easy" to install | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | it still is not | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I installed it last year and in 2004 | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | CNET hired Matt Mullenweg to install it for them so the staff can blog | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | they probably paid some lincence for an expensive prioprioetary cms up to that point... since the 90s | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | later came "WordPress MU" (multiuser) | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then deals with ISPs and WQebhosts | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Fantastico etc. | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | all those "one click install" scripts wrapped up in a GUI | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it was a lot to do with bundling | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | then came wordpress.coim | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | which it turn became like a webhost | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Drupal's company moved in the same direction | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, it's still the host of opensource.com | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Red Hat can't even manage Drupal on their olwn? | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | FSF can | Aug 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | mlee complaint about wordpress needing many updates | Aug 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, fsf used to have joomla or something | Aug 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I recently showed visually the history of the FSF site | Aug 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | rms told me they'd look into serving gnu and fsf pages over gemini but of coursew not much gets done by the fsf these days | Aug 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2-3 years ago they said they'd make a code repo project akin to gitlab, in order to replqce github | Aug 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't even remind them now... as nothing gone done, you might even call all their projected daya vapourware | Aug 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *date (they kept saying stuff like later this year) | Aug 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | /s/mlee/mattL | Aug 04 17:06 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm still concerned about the passivity of the FSF and the derailed nature of | Aug 04 17:12 |
| Techrights-sec | the EFF | Aug 04 17:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | the sad thing is that they don't care about your concern and don't want to be saved, as they do not think | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | they need saving. they do exactly what some people who took the baton always wanted to do | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the EFF's case, I don't consider doctorow to be a flag bearer but a mascot who is salaried for "mascotting" | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | isn eckersely or whatever his name was still there? | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | *ley | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | rather than the modern diversity candidate with no technical background, just some history in politics | Aug 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and by politics I mean part of some hornets' net in sopcial control media | Aug 04 17:15 |
| Techrights-sec | There's now a field reserved for making the URLs unique in the keys table. | Aug 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Any preference on what it shall be called? Only the add and extract will | Aug 04 17:17 |
| Techrights-sec | need to use it, the former read-write and the latter read-only. | Aug 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | if slug is already a named field, maybe UURL? | Aug 04 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | UURI | Aug 04 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | uid | Aug 04 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes doctorow is kind of a mascot or a distraction to keep the old school | Aug 04 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec | members off their backs | Aug 04 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec | ballast? | Aug 04 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec | I hope that they would listen more to Cory Doctorow more than they do. He | Aug 04 17:19 |
| Techrights-sec | has figured out the situation and has a good idea of a feasible way forward. | Aug 04 17:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will not promote him | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it would threaten people who rely on eff having c and d... and z types | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | they already ousted gilmore after so many years there | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | doctorow "got the message" loud and clear | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | haha, and don't expet him to write anything about billg there | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | eff has been too busy picking on RMS | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | mentioning bill's evil patents can put off big funders like mark cuban, who also | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | invested in patent trolls | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but later funded a campaign against "bad patents" | Aug 04 17:22 |
| Techrights-sec | unfortunately so | Aug 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I recently read an article about class solidarity at the TOP | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they map their "enemies".... the ones who must be kept quiet, like the two melbourne students | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Assange and Pocock | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | unlike Francis Gurry (also same university/) from WIPO... the agency which deploatformed Pocock | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | doctorwow speaks a lot about class issue, like russell brand, so he's just there to be a jester | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and won't be put in a suit | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the suit is reserved for James and Sheela Microsoft | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Torvbalds can get old, cold, and die in a bathrobe | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I actually made Linux... when that word meant something" | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Larry Sagner: I co-founded Wikipedia | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | two men: tesla is our company, but we were paid not to tell you this. hush hush. | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | fraudurocracy | Aug 04 17:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | wozniak did not get canceled or forcibly sent to therapist, but he's a niche and only erevered among geeks | Aug 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the average apple "consumer" it's all Jobs and Crook | Aug 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | marketing people and financiers | Aug 04 17:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | wozniak did not get canceled or forcibly sent to therapist, but he's a niche and only erevered among geeks | Aug 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the average apple "consumer" it's all Jobs and Crook | Aug 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | marketing people and financiers | Aug 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | kooyman is dutch and has too much decency in the culture to "do a zemlin" on rms imho | Aug 04 17:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's no bully de bblanc or deb icaza, but fsf has stagnated regardless (inaction) | Aug 04 17:30 |
| Techrights-sec | sadly, wozniak scrambled his own brains in an unnecessary plane crash which | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | came very close to outright killing him off. That's why he's been off to the | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | side. | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | It could have been much worse, but it could also have been much better. | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Without the severe, permanent brain damage he could have continued in some | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | kind of engineering role until cancellation | Aug 04 17:34 |
| Techrights-sec | or retirement | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm looking for links to add, it's a slow news day tbh | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | which suits me (as does the week off work) because of the incidents | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | slept like a baby knowing tuxmachines if finally in gemini:// too | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for now it's only advertised in irc | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not in the html pages or the official (old) site | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | although the capsule does not replace anything, so in theory it could be advertised | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | before the "replacement" CMS | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tested itr earlier with lagrange, I no longer keep like 5 gemini clients open like I used to | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | a year ago when I tried to promote adoption of gemini | Aug 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | what I did not envision before is that tuxmachines migration would make migration of techrights a lot easier | Aug 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it's the same OS and there's room for reuse. we moaned a lot about www and systemd and better later than never | Aug 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | to do something outselves, too, about those issues. And best in august when it's quiet. rianne is focusing now on | Aug 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | exams for citizenship so we can proceed in sept. can take 6-9 months. | Aug 04 17:40 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Aug 04 17:42 |
| Techrights-sec | 6 to 9 months is a long time, is it a large course load? | Aug 04 17:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 6 months is how long they process application, the course is like 150 multiple choice ("Murican style") questions | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and should be easy enugh for "halima" and "singh" and "chong" to pass too | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so rianne can do ok, same for english test | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the paper reqs are very easy too | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the key thing is, be in the country a lot the past 5 years, have no criminal record | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | turns out employment record is barely a factor, just 2 letters oif recomm | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I too would apply, but after brexit I hold on to my existing passport | Aug 04 17:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | "oligarch" like peter thiel can just buy themselves passports anywhere without all those "Acid tests" that weed out opportunists, imposters, | Aug 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | pretenders and even terrorists | Aug 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | because his class is the one deciding the laws and assessing merit | Aug 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you check irc logs in gemini, you'll see tuxmachines links now come with gemini urls, too | Aug 04 17:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 18:03 |
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| schestowitz-TR | Techrights updates done by polling or sending a signal over ssh when new articles are published | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | with tuxmachines it is instant and the hosting resides on the same machine | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | with nginx and gemini-proxy the address gemini.tuxmachines.org can also serve over http/s | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then it needs to decipher the subdomain parts so as to not conflate with "news" or "beta" etc. | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so one option is to use apache and change the config | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | but tbh, not practical use to that | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | a proxy for a gemini version of a site that already serves https, and does so better | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | atm if you enter gemin.tuxmachines.org in a browser it gives the proper site | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so no point running gemini-proxy there, ignore my out-loud thought | Aug 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I answered my own question, sort of | Aug 04 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | yes | Aug 04 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'doing a pelosi' = trying to undermine other superpowers to distract from the failure of your own | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | see also: zero-summers, Microsoft infiltrators | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is furious as she worked in taiwan | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I told her, taiwan can be the "eastern front" ukraine | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll take 10 million chinese missiles while we wave wtaiwan flags and boast about the hereism of the people | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | of taiwan | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | just so that they can destroy like 1000 chinese tanks, based on soviet designs | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | plus, US weapon sales, so you profit while you watch the cannon foder languishing (*fodder) | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | waving taiwanese symbols and flags in an homage for their bravery | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | slavix moujahadeen, "chinito" moujahadeen, who next? | Aug 04 18:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | during and/or after wars (if you withstand them) you can justify going into higher gdp/debt ratio | Aug 04 18:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | japan is still about 1:3 | Aug 04 18:18 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 18:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | (that's not to say us i to blame for japan's imperial ambitions of that US/EU started the Ukraine war) | Aug 04 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | japan was not connected to the US politically prior to WWII | Aug 04 18:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | japan's imperial navala and air force is connected to the british, which taught and equipped them | Aug 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | empires sees alike | Aug 04 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but japan chose the "wrong" allies and went too far against china, like hitler in russia | Aug 04 18:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | news.tuxmachines.org is already in google's search index | Aug 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm starting to add more nodes now, it gives me 3 urls | Aug 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | old, new, and gemini | Aug 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think I found a bug, the latest page added has ":" and "," in the URL | Aug 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lagrange cannot access it | Aug 04 18:36 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Aug 04 18:52 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Aug 04 18:52 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Aug 04 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, and sorry if I typed too much this past hour or two | Aug 04 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm getting back to my routine for the first time since the outage | Aug 04 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I get system bell-ed now when you commit | Aug 04 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and afaik, the multiple listener issue is not resolved | Aug 04 18:52 |
| Techrights-sec | checking the mqtt logs ... | Aug 04 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | does it fit your screen ok? | Aug 04 18:56 |
| Techrights-sec | which session> | Aug 04 18:56 |
| Techrights-sec | ? | Aug 04 18:56 |
| Techrights-sec | the multiple listener issue seems fixe | Aug 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you see the new tmux pane | Aug 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, im meant windows, not pane | Aug 04 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec | the multiple listener issue seems fixe | Aug 04 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec | d | Aug 04 18:58 |
| Techrights-sec | which session name? | Aug 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | ytalk | Aug 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are now vertically-split panes at my end | Aug 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if you see those too | Aug 04 19:00 |
| Techrights-sec | there's no shared tmux session called ytalk on tm-new | Aug 04 19:01 |
| Techrights-sec | those are different sessions not connected except through ytalk | Aug 04 19:01 |
| Techrights-sec | so what you see will be separatefrom what I see | Aug 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | no,the one we use right now, on your pi | Aug 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see, I'll keep it like this at my end to spare an extra open terminal | Aug 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I use your pi to connect to my pi, which routes to my laptop that does periodic alerts re git | Aug 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you sudo su roy | Aug 04 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then tmux a -t ytalk in another terminal you will see what I mean | Aug 04 19:06 |
| Techrights-sec | those are different sessions not connected except through ytalk | Aug 04 19:21 |
| Techrights-sec | so what you see will be separatefrom what I see, they're in different acccounts | Aug 04 19:21 |
| Techrights-sec | I can guess but don't want to disturb the session there | Aug 04 19:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | resized the windows a bit, ctrl+b+up/down | Aug 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | so beneath your size I can see the latest links, and git commits for each repo, plus some details | Aug 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | mqtt does real-time alerts | Aug 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | todo: use that as a trigger | Aug 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | send message to knotify so I don't have to check the terminal | Aug 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | added window in tandem for git show | Aug 04 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | when something new comes in | Aug 04 19:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | as code can communicate better than words and save you the hassle explaining | Aug 04 19:30 |
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| Techrights-sec | nice, I'll take a look | Aug 04 19:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the git show thing is a separate terminal though, running on the LAN | Aug 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the screen in front of my face, where ytalk is at the centre | Aug 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I've not done videos in days, but have no good topics to cover either) | Aug 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | cd ~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org/ && git show && cd ~/Git && git show | Aug 04 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | hit needed: how to add hook to sub_forgotitsname for executing a command | Aug 04 19:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | second thought: I already get real-time system bell, can run it manually when that happens and am not in the middle of something | Aug 04 19:46 |
| britney | cocaine is a hell of a drug | Aug 04 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | you tried it? | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec: | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | re | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | - $post = &xhtml_to_gemtext($post); | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | are you reusing code? | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think some perl libs were done that help with conversions | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw that in "awesomeGemini" | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | newswaffle reuses a lot of things to make its very decent conversions | Aug 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | + $body = &xhtml_to_gemtext($body); | Aug 04 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | now it's easy for me to see what happens in real time ^_^ | Aug 04 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | literally just finished the dails links, will do my quiterss feeds now, there will be updates in TM | Aug 04 20:03 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, reusing code | Aug 04 20:04 |
| Techrights-sec | if functions turn up in more than one script I can split them out into a module | Aug 04 20:04 |
| Techrights-sec | but I think there is only one function like that so far and so that's still | Aug 04 20:04 |
| Techrights-sec | on the list of things to do | Aug 04 20:04 |
| Techrights-sec | there are still some UTF8 matters to clear up among other things | Aug 04 20:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it's any solace, utf-x issues were also a pain in old TM | Aug 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | drupal cannot, in particular, cope with emoji and other "high bit" input | Aug 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | which means I need to double-check everything I post there | Aug 04 20:05 |
| britney | <schestowitz-TR> you tried it? | Aug 04 20:05 |
| britney | no lol | Aug 04 20:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I had a canadian girldfriend ages ago | Aug 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and she did schrooms sometimes | Aug 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | in parties | Aug 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | as a teen | Aug 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | *shrooms | Aug 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I germanised that | Aug 04 20:06 |
| britney | shrooms are kinda intense | Aug 04 20:06 |
| britney | if i had a choice between mushrooms and LSD, I'd take the LSD | Aug 04 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I never even tried pot | Aug 04 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | our neighbours smoke it in t he back yard | Aug 04 20:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | stinks | Aug 04 20:07 |
| britney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ16H0hsQiQ | Aug 04 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=RZ16H0hsQiQ | Aug 04 20:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.namazso.eu | Rick James - Cocaine Is A Hell Of A Drug - Invidious | Aug 04 20:08 | |
| Techrights-sec | well it's only half a problem since the characters are getting into the db | Aug 04 20:08 |
| Techrights-sec | and being stored there correctly | Aug 04 20:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to massivel improve my TM workflow and rianne's two | Aug 04 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | for posting in two sites in tandem | Aug 04 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | haven't found the right screen setup and copy-paste order yet | Aug 04 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | going upstairs to discuss with rianne | Aug 04 20:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | she's listing in ebay lots of stuff she got in yorkshire | Aug 04 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | . | Aug 04 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 20:11 |
| britney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI | Aug 04 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=2FmYmdGRONI | Aug 04 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.flokinet.to | what did the 5 fingers said to the face? I`m rick James Biatch - Invidious | Aug 04 20:11 | |
| britney | im rick james bitch | Aug 04 20:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | it does a 4-way hop now, due to router bug | Aug 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | laptop->my laptop->rianne's lapto->tuxmachines-new | Aug 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or I could just place her ssh keys on that laptop | Aug 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid two levels of indirection I've just passed her keys to thatother laptops | Aug 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so both can access the site/s , back end with tux.sh on ~ | Aug 04 20:31 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Aug 04 20:31 |
| Techrights-sec | ssh -J -J -J dest | Aug 04 20:31 |
| Techrights-sec | or make new keys | Aug 04 20:31 |
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