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r_schestowitz"One day they'll have to wake up to the shitty reality they have manifested for themselves. Maybe it is the only way for them to realise how stupid they are.."Oct 04 01:28
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r_schestowitz"I don't know what weaponry will be used in WW III, but I'm sure what will be arms of WW IV: Dingbats and Stones."Oct 04 01:29
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r_schestowitz"They'd have us digesting petrol if they could."Oct 04 01:29
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acer-boxNO RULERS .... NO MASTERS ...... NO SLAVESOct 04 01:36
acer-box“ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”Oct 04 01:36
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acer-boxAny alleged “right” of one man, which necessitates the violation of the rights of another, is not and cannot be a right.Oct 04 01:36
acer-box“ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free” ~ GoetheOct 04 01:36
acer-boxKleptocracy : a society whose leaders make themselves rich and powerful by stealing from the rest of the peopleOct 04 01:36
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Kleptocracy : a society whose leaders make themselves rich and powerful by stealing from the rest of the people Kakistocracy: a system of government which is run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. If some men are entitled by right to the products of the work of others, it means that those others are deprived of rights and condemned to slave labor. The US choices have slowly been eroded for over 100Oct 04 01:36
acer-box#liberty #freespeech #libertarian #anarchy #freedomOct 04 01:36
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r_schestowitz>   > <b>Update</b>: Richard Stallman has since then [cref 120667 stated heOct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz>   > wants people to support the FSF].Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz>   > This links toOct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz>   > http://techrights.org/2019/10/01/what-stallman-wants/Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guest Post: What Stallman Wants | TechrightsOct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz>   > I hope this clarifies things.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Thank you.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> The attacks and pressure on me did not come from the FSF.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitz> The FSF was targeted along with me.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitzYes, now we know. I spoke to someone from the FSF for 5 hours on Oct 1st.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitzI also did another post yesterday to clarify you want the FSF supported.Oct 04 01:38
r_schestowitzRe: some thoughts on the fsfOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> nothing really new here, except the metaphor. im always trying to helpOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> create a realistic picture of the challenges we have as advocates.Oct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> note that some people will feel like im being unfair to the volunteersOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> that already take on the same style of helicopter parenting that i thinkOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> denies the opportunity to grow. i think its fine that rms has such aOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> long list of things he wants for a talk. sometimes the fsf has a similarOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> list-- its a lot to ask (and a lot of unnecessary limits-- some limitsOct 04 01:49
r_schestowitz> definitely matter of course) of people advocating free sw. the list forOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> stallman is fine. the list the fsf puts together over time disqualifiesOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> too many people, and turns away (very) good help. so:Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz>> Based on WIkipedia #FSF <https://share.naturalnews.com/tags/fsf> hasOct 04 01:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-share.naturalnews.com | #fsfOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> just 11 members of staff (maybe less depending on their IRS filing), soOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> I can understand capacity limits…Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> capacity limits are irrelevant if they made more use of volunteers.Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> the most realistic way to view the shortcomings of the fsf is they treatOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> software freedom as their baby (which itself is not a problem at all)Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> and they are *helicopter parents.*Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> if it werent for this style of parenting, it would be easier for thoseOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> who really believe in software freedom to help guard the baby whileOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> keeping it in touch with the real world. instead, the baby stays “atOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> home” where it is brought up in a relatively isolated environment,Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> *guarded only by 11 very tired, overworked parents as a swat team led byOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> GAFAM try to kidnap it forever.*Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> it would be better if the fsf had an army of babysitters, the childOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> would be more prepared able to flourish and take over the world someday.Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> maybe the reason the 11 caretakers are so protective is because of theirOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> extremely negative experience with the open source babysitting agency--Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> but this is still unhealthy for the childs development and the truth is–Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> *if free software wants to take over the entire world, it must alsoOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> belong to the entire world.* it cant remain in isolation and develop aOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> capacity for much greater change. we need to get it further out into theOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> world for it to grow, and it is not hard to find examples of the fsfOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> putting limits on that.Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> *there are some rules we need to respect-- some core things only anOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> enemy would try to change.* but the fsf puts too many unnecessary thingsOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> in that category. it has not learned to distinguish the VITAL laws fromOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> the minor obsessions. (young overprotective parents often make similarOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> mistakes.) *also the child was just removed from its father* and thisOct 04 01:50
r_schestowitz> happens to be a crime against BOTH child and father.Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitzprevious email (some thoughts)Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitzfigosdev wrote on 03/10/2019 16:20:> by the way, sometimes you are a bit too quick to publish things. when it says "for immediate publication" its never too quick, and its not a demand to do it immediately either.Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitz> sometimes i run ideas by you, and if you werent so eager to publish i think you would get better quotes and articles out of them if you waited.Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:51
r_schestowitz> this is rarely an issue and i dont want to say anything thats going to make you either shy or feel restricted in the great work you do. its mostly relevant (at the moment) to the thoughts on the fsf email. id rather have some time to develop that thought further than have it turned into a post. usually i say "not for publication" to be explicit about it. oliva does the same thing with drafts he posts online:Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> "please dont publish the url or quote this article before its final publication" -- a draft i just read on olivas websiteOct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> the "dont publish the url" thing isnt enforceable, its just a favour he asks while he works on his ideas and shares them with a more limited audience for feedback. it obviously isnt vital enough for him to use a password instead.Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> this is definitely not a major critique of the way you run a resource that many of us find incredibly valuable and are extremely grateful for-- and very happy to contribute to.Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitzRe: intel chips\Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> i saw a bunch of guys walking around in intel shirts that said "do wonderful" on them.Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> it could just be an event they sponsored with non-employees, but some people look corporate even a tshirt.Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> i caught up to them and said "hey, if you really want to do something wonderful-- make some chips without that management engine."Oct 04 01:52
r_schestowitz> sent also to rms and alex olivaOct 04 01:53
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:53
r_schestowitz> List of important Pro-Stallman, Pro-Free-Software points to maintain atOct 04 01:53
r_schestowitz> this timeOct 04 01:53
r_schestowitzCheers, posted.Oct 04 01:53
r_schestowitz> by the way, im not going to bother fixing it where its already posted online, but if you publish the stallman list on techrights at some point, would you change the typo "they way" to "the way"? it should be in the second paragraph, either way text search will find it. cheers.Oct 04 01:54
r_schestowitzThis is fixed now.Oct 04 01:55
r_schestowitz> id love a copy of stallmans new sig (i heard from him this morning so it has to be very new, im glad to read of it) to get the exact wording.Oct 04 01:56
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:56
r_schestowitz> i read about it in the new techrights post.Oct 04 01:57
r_schestowitzRichard Stallman wrote on 03/10/2019 15:56:> The attacks and pressure on me did not come from the FSF.Oct 04 01:57
r_schestowitz> The FSF was targeted along with me.Oct 04 01:57
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 01:57
r_schestowitz> -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software FoundationOct 04 01:57
r_schestowitz> (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-FamerOct 04 01:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | The GNU Operating System and the Free Software MovementOct 04 01:57
r_schestowitz> (https://internethalloffame.org)Oct 04 01:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Front Page — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareOct 04 01:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-internethalloffame.org | Home Page | Internet Hall of FameOct 04 01:57
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jlboul/status/1179859109287530497Oct 04 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: @schestowitz BBC World News hasn't reported here They do spend on prison conditions there. They do spend considerab… https://t.co/S3x9neHcWyOct 04 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jlboul: @schestowitz BBC World News hasn't reported here They do spend on prison conditions there. They do spend considerab… https://t.co/S3x9neHcWyOct 04 02:33
r_schestowitz"BBC World News hasn't reported here They do spend on prison conditions there. They do spend considerable time broadcasting about other matters."Oct 04 02:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1179861543976144903Oct 04 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Internet of Shit.Oct 04 02:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1179863682609795072Oct 04 02:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Startup troll.Oct 04 02:33
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Hattie_T_Cat/status/1179876138040139776Oct 04 02:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Hattie_T_Cat: Goodbye for good, then, Red Hat. I stopped first using Red Hat by switching to CentOS. No point wasting $$$/year f… https://t.co/jMYqDpmqBDOct 04 02:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Hattie_T_Cat: Goodbye for good, then, Red Hat. I stopped first using Red Hat by switching to CentOS. No point wasting $$$/year f… https://t.co/jMYqDpmqBDOct 04 02:34
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitzHattie Cat Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitzGoodbye for good, then, Red Hat.Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitzI stopped first using Red Hat by switching to CentOS. No point wasting $$$/year for support I never needed. Since RHEL7 the bloat has grown so I ditched them altogether and now use FreeBSD for servers.Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fweng322/status/1179911952841068545Oct 04 02:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fweng322: @rodgersnotes @LibOCon @Sweet5hark @floeff @olea @adfinissygroup @schestowitz @massonpj @hodyroff @Casually_Causal… https://t.co/lE1T2ERHKzOct 04 02:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@fweng322: @rodgersnotes @LibOCon @Sweet5hark @floeff @olea @adfinissygroup @schestowitz @massonpj @hodyroff @Casually_Causal… https://t.co/lE1T2ERHKzOct 04 02:34
r_schestowitz"Here, you set the view mode to the book mode.  The upper row is the first (cover) page, then left page and right page, ... etc."Oct 04 02:34
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16148292#9ade5a60c86b013752430cc47a07853cOct 04 02:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remarks on Richard Stallman, whose signature now emphasises that he founded the FSF and probably belongs back in its board http://techrights.org/2019/10/03/history-of-fsf/ Oct 04 02:36
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 02:36
r_schestowitzOct 04 02:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | History of FSF and Free Software Matters | TechrightsOct 04 02:36
r_schestowitzthis post was written for social media, though i suppose it isnt a bad thing if it gets more exposure. it is also a work in progress, i assume more points will be tacked on later. i didnt know about his new signature, thats very cool; i havent heard from him since he changed it.Oct 04 02:36
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 02:36
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16139306#e9e41660c827013752550cc47a07853c\Oct 04 02:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 13 #Python Natural Language Processing Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/python-natural-language-processing-tools/ #programmingOct 04 02:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.linuxlinks.com | 13 Python Natural Language Processing Tools - LinuxLinksOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzI remember sharing similar thoughts, @tomgrz, but more on the level that achieving colloquial bidirectional source-to-source translation of code between arbitrary programming languages would (1) represent an adequate training challenge as preparation for colloquial human languages translation, and would (2) if achieved, enable coders to pick the language of their choice to intervene on an established codebase. The dream.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzThe browser has made Javascript the main target of source to source translation to high-level languages, pretext for me to shamelessly plug here mention of such an effort, Brython, to which I participated indirectly by authoring a lean and mean Python sudoku solver adopted early on by the lead of the Brython project, Pierre Quentel, to showcase that the approach was fast enough to be useful.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzThe demo page is at https://brython.info/gallery/sudoku.html that includes a link to the listing.Oct 04 02:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-brython.info | NO TITLEOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzThe story of that solver is that back in 2006 I spent multiple months evolving versions of a pure python Sudoku solver, using no “included batteries”, by simultaneous optimization of LOC count and raw speed in the standard CPython implementation – until I couldn’t do any better. Then I felt ashamed for the time I’d spent on it and buried it. Five years later I stumbled upon a blog post someone had just written, comparing Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzsudoku solver implementations across languages, so I submitted a pick out of my dozens versions in a comment, after tweaking the code in a couple minor ways to help legibility.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzhttps://attractivechaos.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/an-incomplete-review-of-sudoku-solver-implementations/Oct 04 02:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-attractivechaos.wordpress.com | An Incomplete Review of Sudoku Solver Implementations | Attractive ChaosOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzThe fun bit was that ancillary to the overt intention of the blog post was the intention of the author, Heng Li, to showcase the performance of a particular internal representation for sudoku that I’d independently adopted. He had written solvers using that representation in multiple languages, including Python. His Python solver, however, was marginally slower than the textbook Python implementation that Peter Norvig, the head of Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzGoogle research, had published. My own solver revealed about 4 times faster and 4 times more concise (partly because it didn’t bother with any sudoku player-friendly display of the sudoku grid).Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzA particular irony of this situation is the light it casts on the “Zen of Python” line, “There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.”Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 10 hours ago Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitznow (from early 2000s onwards) you find more programming languages that have another high-level language as the output; a few even have multiple high-level language choices for output.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzI’m aware of the Racket programming environment, but not others…Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 9 hours ago Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzi believe qb64, fig, coffescript, freebasic are all source to source compilers. only one of those im not confident about is freebasic.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzi just found one called ROSE. which means there are two-- i made a source-to-source compiler called rose as well. (i dont use it for much, though it inspired a feature in an extended version of fig.)Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz Boris BOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzBoris B - about 8 hours ago Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzNow imagining a pair of reciprocal source-to-source compilers, there will be two cases, those whose pairs whose combination converges to a fixed point (or perhaps a short cycle) when iterated, and those for which that’s not the case. I believe current technology makes it hard to avoid the second case, yet curing that automatically looks like an interesting problem.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 8 hours ago Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzmultiple high-level language choices for output.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitzRacket (with some work) is a tool to help you accomplish this feat - or even invent your own high-level language.Oct 04 02:38
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 02:38
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 8 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzHere is a good example where a fellow made use of a minimal Lisp to bootstrap a high-level language:Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzhttp://shenlanguage.org/shendoc.htm#KlOct 04 02:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shenlanguage.org | Shen DocOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzThe Shen mission was to develop an ultra-portable version of Qi that can run under a wide variety of platforms and which incorporates missing features in Qi such as streams. This approach involved rewriting and redesigning Qi to fit within the smallest feasible instruction set. - The means of achieving this involves developing a small fast Lisp called Kl which is rich enough to encode Qi, but small enough to be easily mapped into other Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzplatforms or implemented as a standalone.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 7 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzRacket (with some work) is a tool to help you accomplish this feat - or even invent your own high-level language.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzi prefer python for that, but racket is certainly used for this purpose. there is a course at brown that uses racket for this.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzany turing-complete language can be used for this purpose. some languages are better suited than others. i consider lisp and python both highly-suited to the task. i simply prefer to work with python for many reasons. javascript, for those who love it, is also suitable.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 4 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzi prefer pythonOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzBut is there any package directed to that purpose?Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 4 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzi mean this is how i teach people to create their own toy language:Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzdefine commands as functionsOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzparse input source according to the rules they wantOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzoutput python source that calls those functionsOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzmake exceptions for things that cant be defined as functions, like “swap a b” becomes “a, b = b, a” in pythonOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz3 and 4 are often as trivial as printing (or file writing) the contents of variables with added parentheses and commas. really basic text manipulation.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz1 is basic everyday coding.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz2 can also be made trivial, and the thing youre most likely to find libraries for-- you know, parsers. but i tend to create my own.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzshort answer: yes. there are parsers available for python, javascript, even php.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzof course im in favour of people creating more projects like this-- both for themselves and for other people interested in learning this aspect of programming.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzi keep it simple-- i like to teach programming language creation for relatively inexperienced programmers, who become better versed as a result of trying to do this.Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitztomgrz - about 2 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzI think we need more and better tools. ;-)Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comOct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - about 2 hours ago Oct 04 02:39
r_schestowitzabsolutely, but you have to start somewhere.Oct 04 02:39
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r_schestowitz>>> That would be -t instead of -s:Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>>>Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>>> sudo smartctl -t short  /dev/sdb1Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> sudo smartctl -t short  /dev/sdb1Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> [sudo] password for roy:Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [i686-linux-4.4.0-98-generic] (local build)Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.orgOct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> Short offline self test failed [unsupported field in scsi command]Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> ====Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz>> Wish I knew how seriously this issue is; I think the answer might scare me.Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz> You could always but a USB drive, copy stuff to it from the dataOct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz> directory, and then mount it in place of the data directory.  That couldOct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz> hold you over a while and cost less than 50 EUR.Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitzInteresting. Currently I just put nightly backups there.Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitzI wonder if I had FS issue for quite some time but did not notice them (never ran dmesg) until the FS went R-O, forcing a reboot.Oct 04 06:05
r_schestowitz> i misread your words as saying that his sig implied he should at least be on the board again.Oct 04 06:11
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 06:11
r_schestowitz> it was the way i parsed "and" that made me think this.Oct 04 06:11
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 06:11
r_schestowitz> if i add to that list, the first thing i add will likely be a mention of the 4 freedoms. they were too obvious for me to even think of them.Oct 04 06:11
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16146741#e4c82e20c85a013752550cc47a07853cOct 04 06:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 8 years ago when we met http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Looking-Back-8-Months-Later/birthdayOct 04 06:25
r_schestowitz"its not easy to avoid being reminded of tia carerre (in the 90s)"Oct 04 06:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> schestowitz.com | birthdayOct 04 06:25
r_schestowitz> It's not 100%.  It's just that /sometimes/ links go to stories otherOct 04 06:27
r_schestowitz> than what they describe.  Usually more than one per day.Oct 04 06:27
r_schestowitzThe main issue I found with the BBC site, when access it at the gym, is that the anchors sort of 'jump' as the page load, so when I press the Sport section it will instead go to News section when the click actually registers.Oct 04 06:27
r_schestowitzAll in all, many sites becoming "mobile-friendly" means they become crap for all non-mobile users.Oct 04 06:27
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r_schestowitzThis will be the first try; see attachment. The script made it.Oct 04 06:42
r_schestowitzHere's how to do it.Oct 04 06:42
r_schestowitz1. In wordpress "Add New Post"Oct 04 06:42
r_schestowitz2. put title in placeOct 04 06:42
r_schestowitz3. select "IRC Logs" under CategoriesOct 04 06:42
r_schestowitz4. put in exceptOct 04 06:42
r_schestowitz5. bodyOct 04 06:43
r_schestowitz6. beneath the headline you can change URL slugOct 04 06:43
r_schestowitzThe order of 2-6 does not matter, the data is all in the attached fileOct 04 06:43
r_schestowitz7. You can then press "Preview" to check before you click "Publish" or just "Publish" straight away.Oct 04 06:43
r_schestowitzTry doing this one, I'll double-check right afterwards.Oct 04 06:43
r_schestowitz> Thanks.Oct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> 1) Can you change the file names so that the date is represented in ISOOct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> format?  yyyy-mm-ddOct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> 2) The attachment has an empty table.  Well, there are some descriptionsOct 04 07:02
r_schestowitz> but no IRC content.Oct 04 07:02
r_schestowitzre (1), sure, I will amend that so next attachment will be with that formatOct 04 07:02
r_schestowitzre (2) I've just checked again what I sent. It looks OK, but it won't render much until you put that in wordpress and publish/preview. It's already links to some files (IRC and graphics).Oct 04 07:02
r_schestowitzdone.Oct 04 07:11
r_schestowitzIRCDATEFILE=$(date --date="2 days ago" +"%Y-%m-%d")Oct 04 07:11
r_schestowitzthis is yesterday's with the correct file form (for the text fileOct 04 07:17
r_schestowitz>>> 2) The attachment has an empty table.  Well, there are some descriptionsOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>> but no IRC content.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> re (1), sure, I will amend that so next attachment will be with that formatOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> re (2) I've just checked again what I sent. It looks OK, but it won'tOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> render much until you put that in wordpress and publish/preview. It'sOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> already links to some files (IRC and graphics).Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz> So I guess it's just a table with links pointing to the actual logs.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz> I've added it, but it is now 'pending review'Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitzI suck at "Roles" in WordPress (no experience), so didn't know how to manage these. You're not full Admin and can do anything, even publish directly.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitzI've edited your post, which is authored by a something along the lines of transparency theme ("Sunlight"). I had to add a category, except, and change the title.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitzI tested all the links and found no bugs :-) :-)Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>> Thanks.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>>Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>> 1) Can you change the file names so that the date is represented in ISOOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>> format?  yyyy-mm-ddOct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> done.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz>> IRCDATEFILE=$(date --date="2 days ago" +"%Y-%m-%d")Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitz> Thanks.Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitzTry doing the 3rd of October, using that attachment and following the example of the 2nd. See if that publishes directly now...Oct 04 07:27
r_schestowitzI will do August and September this weekendOct 04 07:46
r_schestowitzMaybe this weekend I will myself add the missing logs of August and September. To avoid the site getting flooded with daily ones I'll nest them under week-long groups.Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzIRCAGE=2Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzIRCDATE=$(date --date="$IRCAGE days ago" +"%b %d")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitz#IRCDATE=$(date --date yesterday +"%b %d")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzecho Processing $IRCDATEOct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzIRCFULLDATE=$(date --date="$IRCAGE days ago" "+%A,  %d, %Y")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitz#IRCFULLDATE=$(date --date yesterday "+%A,  %d, %Y")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzecho Full date: $IRCFULLDATEOct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzIRCDATESLUG=$(date --date="$IRCAGE days ago" +"%d%m%y")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitz#IRCDATESLUG=$(date --date yesterday +"%d%m%y")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzecho Slug: $IRCDATESLUGOct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzIRCDATEFILE=$(date --date="$IRCAGE days ago" +"%Y-%m-%d")Oct 04 07:47
r_schestowitzThe last remaining post for Oct. is Oct. 1st, so it's attached with the new format.Oct 04 07:50
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16133415#e1db1930c8260137099b7a163ef10931Oct 04 08:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #hk #hongkong #china #prc #cn https://www.economist.com/china/2019/10/01/hong-kong-does-its-best-to-spoil-chinas-big-anniversaryOct 04 08:05
r_schestowitz"Why rioters choose to attack the police? | 為何香港暴徒選擇襲擊警察?真相在這裡 - Invidious (https://invidio.us/watch?v=KAE_W867JK0)"Oct 04 08:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.economist.com | Party poopers - Hong Kong tries its best to spoil China’s big anniversary | China | The EconomistOct 04 08:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://invidio.us/watch?v=KAE_W867JK0 )Oct 04 08:05
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16128043#aa9f0fe0c8980137099b7a163ef10931Oct 04 08:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch: **Microsoft moving towards a Chromium-like model of server-based application execution** https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/1/20893156/microsoft-windows-10x-leak-dual-screen-laptops-software By subscription only, of course.Oct 04 08:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.theverge.com | Leak reveals Windows 10X, Microsoft’s new OS for dual-screen devices - The VergeOct 04 08:09
r_schestowitz"MS succeeds only when they copy others."Oct 04 08:09
r_schestowitzEven that is now always a recipe for successOct 04 08:10
r_schestowitz"It’s a Zune.'Oct 04 08:10
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16145006#f0b9bae0c828013752690cc47a07853cOct 04 08:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Looks like #ixquick has finally been fixed and can be used with my browser; over a year ago they broke it (after many years that it had been fine), forcing me to use #searx insteadOct 04 08:11
r_schestowitz"searx is pretty awesome actually. not totally reliable. but awesome."Oct 04 08:11
r_schestowitzsome of its sites/instances have been down latelyOct 04 08:11
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16145221#a1472c80c828013752610cc47a07853cOct 04 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fight against #swpats for him https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1179659003846103040 RIP, online buddy; you did more than enough http://techrights.org/2016/10/05/pieter-hintjens-swpats/Oct 04 08:13
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: Pieter forever, already 3 years. After re-reading his writings and his blog, he was a futurologist on many things,… https://t.co/MFxkZTgGcZOct 04 08:13
r_schestowitzOct 04 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Pieter Hintjens’s Legacy of Fighting Against Software Patents Lives On | TechrightsOct 04 08:14
r_schestowitzthats very sad. article mentions a proper fsfe leader, as well. i saw the flyer he made: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct8LYGGWEAARLA3.jpg good stuff. swpats are awful.Oct 04 08:14
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:14
r_schestowitzHe did not know Red Hat, which he did not trust, would be taken over by a swpats lobbyistOct 04 08:14
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16146780#2631af60c851013752630cc47a07853cOct 04 08:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Can we learn from the success of proprietary software to get the funds which would certainly be useful in improving open source software?" What success? Most #proprietarysoftware fails very badly. http://www.dalkescientific.com/writings/diary/archive/2019/10/03/mmpdb_crowdfunding.htmlOct 04 08:16
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.dalkescientific.com | mmpdb crowdfunding consortiumOct 04 08:16
r_schestowitzOct 04 08:16
r_schestowitzimo it would be more useful to teach everyone to code. there is a great mythology that until the big companies were involved, free software was not good enough. im not saying they didnt help in the short run, but in the long run they did as much to sabotage. the fsf rarely speaks of this, but things are getting slowly better (maybe not quickly enough. its important whether they sign on or not.)Oct 04 08:16
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:16
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16122114#3addd8e0c81a013752430cc47a07853cOct 04 08:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Our series about #fsf was timely (see index at the top) http://techrights.org/2019/08/22/library-federation/Oct 04 08:17
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Guarding and Rescuing the FSF Titanic: A Free (as in Freedom) Library, and Federation of Advocates | TechrightsOct 04 08:17
r_schestowitzBased on WIkipedia FSF has just 11 members of staff (maybe less depending on their IRS filing), so I can understand capacity limits…Oct 04 08:17
r_schestowitzcapacity limits are irrelevant if they made more use of volunteers.Oct 04 08:17
r_schestowitzthe most realistic way to view the shortcomings of the fsf is they treat software freedom as their baby (which itself is not a problem at all) and they are helicopter parents.Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzif it werent for this style of parenting, it would be easier for those who really believe in software freedom to help guard the baby while keeping it in touch with the real world. instead, the baby stays “at home” where it is brought up in a relatively isolated environment, guarded only by 11 very tired, overworked parents as a swat team led by GAFAM try to kidnap it forever.Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzit would be better if the fsf had an army of babysitters, the child would be more prepared able to flourish and take over the world someday. maybe the reason the 11 caretakers are so protective is because of their extremely negative experience with the open source babysitting agency-- but this is still unhealthy for the childs development and the truth is–Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzif free software wants to take over the entire world, it must also belong to the entire world. it cant remain in isolation and develop a capacity for much greater change. we need to get it further out into the world for it to grow, and it is not hard to find examples of the fsf putting limits on that.Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzthere are some rules we need to respect-- some core things only an enemy would try to change. but the fsf puts too many unnecessary things in that category. it has not learned to distinguish the VITAL laws from the minor obsessions. (young overprotective parents often make similar mistakes.) also the child was just removed from its father and this happens to be a crime against BOTH child and father.Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzEm se tratando de Facebook, não sou a favor de censura mas acho que o Facebook e o Tweeter deveriam ser limitados em alguma forma… já que o mesmo aplica sim a censura e a discriminação e mantem páginas de todo tipo censurável e não toma nenhuma providencia para sanar isso… ao invés disso casos como o meu que ui bloqueado varias vezes e agora tido a conta extinta, simplesmente onde meus conteúdos eram referentes a história Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitze as ciências auxilares da históriaOct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzA turma da censura do Facebook não quer saber o que é um ex libris…por exemplo…Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzAqui no Brasil… a censura e o acumulo de páginas de pedofilia, falsos perfis, prostituição … entre outras é permitido por debaixo dos panos …sem qualquer fiscalização…Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzA dependência das pessoas pela rede social Facebook é crescente e dopante … dependente de dopamina para viver …Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzEm se tratando de Facebook, não sou a favor de censura mas acho que o Facebook e o Tweeter deveriam ser limitados em alguma forma… já que o mesmo aplica sim a censura e a discriminação e mantem páginas de todo tipo censurável e não toma nenhuma providencia para sanar isso… ao invés disso casos como o meu que ui bloqueado varias vezes e agora tido a conta extinta, simplesmente onde meus conteúdos eram referentes a história Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitze as ciências auxilares da históriaOct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzA turma da censura do Facebook não quer saber o que é um ex libris…por exemplo…Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzAqui no Brasil… a censura e o acumulo de páginas de pedofilia, falsos perfis, prostituição … entre outras é permitido por debaixo dos panos …sem qualquer fiscalização…Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzA dependência das pessoas pela rede social Facebook é crescente e dopante … dependente de dopamina para viver …Oct 04 08:18
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16135667#920799f0c8350137eb3b49c52a376027Oct 04 08:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #facebook #fb ☞ #LizWarren Has Mark #Zuckerberg Thoroughly Spooked https://www.truthdig.com/articles/elizabeth-warren-has-mark-zuckerberg-thoroughly-spooked/ Oct 04 08:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truthdig.com | Elizabeth Warren Has Mark Zuckerberg Thoroughly Spooked - TruthdigOct 04 08:18
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r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16106426#6c9a4ab0c48301373d63047d7b62795eOct 04 08:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #politics ☞ #CorporateMedia Still Waiting for #Trump to Knock Over a Bank https://fair.org/home/corporate-media-still-waiting-for-trump-to-knock-over-a-bank/ Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fair.org | Corporate Media Still Waiting for Trump to Knock Over a Bank | FAIROct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzThe problem is that there is a centrist corporate media and a rightist corporate media but no leftist media - because leftists are against the power of corporations. Rightists and centrists are not.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitztomgrz - 5 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzThis is perhaps the central problem with the Green Party US gaining access to more voters: since we do not accept donations from corporate-affiliated PACs or corporate executives, we often have very little money to work with. To pile upon this irony, often-times when parameters are set for candidate “qualifications” to participate in a campaign-focused political debate, the sponsors will conveniently specify an amount of campaign Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzmoney-raised in excess of our self-limited capacity.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz **joeOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz**joe - 4 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzIt’s beyond irony. It’s a paradox. And it applies to all “third party” politics in the US two party system, not just the Greens.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitztomgrz - 4 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzYes, “paradox” is the better word. A “Catch 22”.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz **joeOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz**joe - 4 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzAt the peak of the labor movement, and after women got the vote, in the 1920 election, Socialist Eugene Debs broke all records by coming in 3rd with 3.4% of the vote. It’s been all downhill from there.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzConservative segregationist George Wallace came in 3rd with !3.5% in '68, and Ross Perot got 18.9% in 1992, but they were both rightists.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitztomgrz - 4 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzThe Green/Rainbow Party routinely gets over 3% in Western Mass for State Offices. Not so well in Central Mass, and then rather well around Boston/Cambridge.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzWe could do better if we were more easy accepting money, but that would be counter-productive to our goals…Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz **joeOct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz**joe - 4 days ago Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzOf course it is counterproductive. That’s why it’s a catch-22.Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitzAt the moment we have the "perfect distraction" from this profound issueOct 04 08:25
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #politics ☞ ‘The Remedies That Were Proposed Weren’t About Ending the List’ https://fair.org/home/the-remedies-that-were-proposed-werent-about-ending-the-list/ Oct 04 08:25
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> fair.org | ‘The Remedies That Were Proposed Weren’t About Ending the List’ | FAIROct 04 08:26
r_schestowitzWatchlists are evil. And unconstitutional in the US.Oct 04 08:26
r_schestowitz freemedia@share.naturalnews.comOct 04 08:26
r_schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 5 days ago Oct 04 08:26
r_schestowitz+1Oct 04 08:26
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:26
r_schestowitzAll those lists...Oct 04 08:26
r_schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16099721#80acdac0c3e301373d2d047d7b62795eOct 04 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #politics #trump ☞ The Problem With #Impeachment https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-problem-with-impeachment/ "It would not impede ICE from hunting down the undocumented and ripping children from their arms to pen them in cages."Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.truthdig.com | The Problem With Impeachment - TruthdigOct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzThanks for reminding me why I can’t stand Chris Hedges.Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz*“They turned on him not over an egregious impeachable offense…but because he made the fatal mistake of trying to take down a fellow member of the ruling elite.”Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzWhat a load of crap! Wasn’t Hillary part of that “ruling elite” as well, and isn’t trump? This is another example of pseudo-left populists agreeing with the right-wing, populist, false, analysis. And besides, the shake-down of the Ukranian PM…and for his own political gain is an egregious impeachable offense, whether it’s victim is part of the establishment or not!Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzBut worst of all, is the statement: "“It would not impede ICE from hunting down the undocumented and ripping children from their arms to pen them in cages.” How the fuck does he reach that conclusion? Babies in cages, and forced separation, are policies very specific to this particular deranged madman. No other president has done it, and a Democratic president is sure to discontinue it. I guess none of his children are in cages so Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzit is not a real issue to him.Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzThe fact that he packages it with some legitimate criticisms of the US is no excuse for such a horrendous oversight.Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz **joeOct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz**joe - 6 days ago Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzClarification: no other recent president has done it. It probably hasn’t been done since the days of slavery, and “Indian Schools” and they did worse things back then too.Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz tomgrzOct 04 08:28
r_schestowitztomgrz - 6 days ago Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitzI generally agree with Chris, but he did get this wrong. There has been increasing pressure from the Democrats’ activist base and multiplicities of offenses coming from Trump. Finally an offense was offered that was too egregious and simple to pass-up.Oct 04 08:28
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 08:29
r_schestowitz> Ok.  I've added both now.  They are both "pending review"Oct 04 09:03
r_schestowitzI see now. Odd that it's still not letting you publish directly and also that something I edited and published (2/10) became unpublished again)Oct 04 09:03
r_schestowitzLet me see...Oct 04 09:03
r_schestowitz> Ok.  I've added both now.  They are both "pending review"Oct 04 09:08
r_schestowitzI see now that you managed to "Publish" Oct 1st. I'm just amending the rest to fit the old template and pattern of URL slugs  etc.Oct 04 09:08
r_schestowitzWill write more shortly....Oct 04 09:08
r_schestowitzGood stuff!Oct 04 09:08
r_schestowitz>>> Ok.  I've added both now.  They are both "pending review"Oct 04 09:12
r_schestowitz>> I see now. Odd that it's still not letting you publish directly and alsoOct 04 09:12
r_schestowitz>> that something I edited and published (2/10) became unpublished again)Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz>> Let me see...Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz>>Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> UI problem.  I was able to publish the 2019-10-01 logs once I found thatOct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> the publish button was far away from the rest of the interface.Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> See:Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> http://techrights.org/?storiesOct 04 09:13
r_schestowitzYes, I'm adding the IRC Logs category to these and making the headline same as in the txt file. Should be finished in 2 minutes, then I'll check the links etc.Oct 04 09:13
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedomOct 04 09:13
r_schestowitzI've just finished a 1-9am shift (third night in a row with bullying management!) and this weekend I plan to do August - Sept. in bulk to fill the gap.Oct 04 09:13
r_schestowitz> See:Oct 04 09:23
r_schestowitz> Oct 04 09:23
r_schestowitz> http://techrights.org/?storiesOct 04 09:23
r_schestowitzI think it's all good now. I checked all the links (8x3 =24 of them, there are links as images and as text in each post for each channel).Oct 04 09:23
r_schestowitzMind you, we also have #tuxmachines irc logs, but not uploading them. Maybe one day...Oct 04 09:23
r_schestowitzVery happy with how effortlessly we can produce these logs on a daily basis. In the old days it took me ageees.... back around 2008. Over time I improved my redaction tact and automated more bits of it.Oct 04 09:23
r_schestowitzPhoronix used to publish its IRC logs, but gave up some time along the way. Now it's just forums.Oct 04 09:23
acer-box__https://twitter.com/saptech/status/1179967811332034560Oct 04 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@saptech: “This patent lawsuit is connected not only to Microsoft (just check where this patent troll gets his patents from)… https://t.co/CRQRRKMRTAOct 04 09:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@saptech: “This patent lawsuit is connected not only to Microsoft (just check where this patent troll gets his patents from)… https://t.co/CRQRRKMRTAOct 04 09:39
acer-box__"“This patent lawsuit is connected not only to Microsoft (just check where this patent troll gets his patents from) but also a super-close friend of Bill Gates (he supports the troll personally).”"Oct 04 09:39
acer-box__https://twitter.com/bheron/status/1180021944026050560Oct 04 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bheron: @eancaer @Bizitzarenjokoa @schestowitz There were a number of factors against us back in the day. C++ had become… https://t.co/0614H3jVY2Oct 04 09:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bheron: @eancaer @Bizitzarenjokoa @schestowitz There were a number of factors against us back in the day. C++ had become… https://t.co/0614H3jVY2Oct 04 09:40
acer-box__"There were a number of factors against us back in the day.   C++ had become more popular, processing speed wasn’t all that which made everything slow, GNUstep had a number of advantages, but mindshare, unfortunately, was not among them.   We are still around and still pushing."Oct 04 09:40
r_schestowitzold:Oct 04 17:23
r_schestowitz""As per UN resolution, Pakistan must vacate its forces and its peopleOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitzfrom Jammu and Kashmir. It is only then that a Plebiscite could becomeOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitzpossible," said Nisar Shah of the Jammu and Kashmir Awami Workers Party."Oct 04 17:23
r_schestowitzhttps://keralakaumudi.com/en/news/news.php?id=5582&u=`black-day-observed-in-pok-to-mark-kashmirs-invasion-by-pakistanOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitz# expect more in the social control media disinformation campaignOct 04 17:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-keralakaumudi.com | `Black Day' observed in PoK to mark Kashmir's invasion by Pakistan - WORLD - GENERAL | Kerala Kaumudi OnlineOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitz# about this time of year from islamist countries to hide thisOct 04 17:23
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r_schestowitzhttps://www.theverge.com/2019/10/3/20896908/microsoft-windows-satya-nadella-importance-apps-services-androidOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitz# feintOct 04 17:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft doesn’t think Windows is important anymore - The VergeOct 04 17:23
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1180154360443092992Oct 04 17:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: I mostly agree: History of FSF and Free Software Matters https://t.co/vtmM4lCxisOct 04 17:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | History of FSF and Free Software Matters | TechrightsOct 04 17:36
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Insomniphobia/status/1179125243564167170Oct 04 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Insomniphobia: @FoxKitsu1 @tuxmachines It does add quite a few packages that I would consider superfluous. Still a beginner may no… https://t.co/4KYmAirxLQOct 04 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Insomniphobia: @FoxKitsu1 @tuxmachines It does add quite a few packages that I would consider superfluous. Still a beginner may no… https://t.co/4KYmAirxLQOct 04 17:37
r_schestowitz"It does add quite a few packages that I would consider superfluous. Still a beginner may not know what they do and don't need."Oct 04 17:37
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FoxKitsu1/status/1178123678816641024Oct 04 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FoxKitsu1: @Insomniphobia @tuxmachines I love building custom desktops with Arch, but I still use Manjaro for every day use. I… https://t.co/w0DN5JijdUOct 04 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FoxKitsu1: @Insomniphobia @tuxmachines I love building custom desktops with Arch, but I still use Manjaro for every day use. I… https://t.co/w0DN5JijdUOct 04 17:38
r_schestowitz"Oct 04 17:38
r_schestowitzI love building custom desktops with Arch, but I still use Manjaro for every day use. I've used architect once, but doesn't the default Manjaro installer add quite a bit of extra software?Oct 04 17:38
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/satwanthundal/status/1178130463237398528Oct 04 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@satwanthundal: @tuxmachines He is retired right ? Or he still with his window terrorism regime ?Oct 04 17:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mgrifftwit/status/1177915598216585216Oct 04 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mgrifftwit: @tuxmachines Tovolds has gone quiet because he was a dick to say that systemD was meh.Oct 04 17:38
r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Insomniphobia/status/1177661246306492416Oct 04 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Insomniphobia: @tuxmachines What's wrong with #manjaro ?Oct 04 17:38
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schestowitz                    <li>Oct 04 18:44
schestowitz                      <h5><a href="https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/avantikashergil/googles-fuchsia-will-it-be-the-new-destination-for-mobile-app-developers-100119">Google’s Fuchsia- Will It Be The New Destination For Mobile App Developers?</a></h5>Oct 04 18:44
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://it.toolbox.com/blogs/avantikashergil/googles-fuchsia-will-it-be-the-new-destination-for-mobile-app-developers-100119">Google’s )Oct 04 18:44
schestowitz                      <blockquote>Oct 04 18:44
schestowitz                        <p>Now, the website gets iterated and live with a new design and Fuchsia documentation where the content is organized in different documents to make it easily accessible and searchable. In the future, we expect to get more details at the same place. </p></blockquote></li>Oct 04 18:44
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