●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 05, 2023 ●● ● Mar 05 [00:04] *{{___THE_BORG___}} has quit (Connection closed) ● Mar 05 [01:54] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 05 [03:01] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:06] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:14] *{{___THE_BORG___}} has quit (Quit: Page closed) ● Mar 05 [04:00] schestowitz-pi2 [JAMA Health Forum] Long Covid is associated with significantly increased risk of death, heart and lung problems, study finds https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/03/health/long-covid-health-consequences/index.html [04:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Long Covid is associated with significantly increased risk of death, heart and lung problems, study finds | CNN [04:16] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 05 [05:00] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [05:00] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [05:00] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [05:01] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [05:04] *{{___THE_BORG___}} has quit (Quit: Page closed) [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 sorry, got distracted as I needed to reboot a machine [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 x org can be sensitive to dragging of windows [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 maybe the GPU [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 a reboot after 50 days [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 gonna post daily links shortly [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 the workflow is now vastly better [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 but I'm not so used to it yet [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 tomorrow the fish will have been in the hospital for 2 whole weeks [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 still swimming sometimes, but not most of the time [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 today will be a busy day and we leave hom in an hour (foods) [05:08] schestowitz-pi2 should I relay your remarks on the article? [05:15] schestowitz-pi2 i agree [05:20] schestowitz-pi2 i agree [05:20] schestowitz-pi2 there are some bits left about it in logs, with names and places removed [05:20] schestowitz-pi2 i did redact as best i could [05:20] schestowitz-pi2 the wipo protest site also [05:20] schestowitz-pi2 and sirius [05:35] techrights[sec] checking [05:36] schestowitz-pi2 it was past midnight today, so next log cycle [05:36] schestowitz-pi2 it is logged by the machine i needed to reboot [05:36] schestowitz-pi2 i need to make an inventory of what to start on it [05:36] schestowitz-pi2 some cannot be automated [05:37] schestowitz-pi2 as it's cli processes [05:37] schestowitz-pi2 like tails-irc.sh [05:37] schestowitz-pi2 *tail [05:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:54] techrights[sec] Letting reddit frame m$ as a 'religious' choice is an attack, an attempt at [05:54] techrights[sec] removing the debate from the realm of facts and ethics over to that of [05:54] techrights[sec] opinions and preferences. Objectively, m$ is a bad choice in several meanings [05:54] techrights[sec] of the word. [05:54] techrights[sec] m$ does act as a cult but Andy does not let that distract him from ethical [05:54] techrights[sec] objections which top off technical, econimic, and legal reasons to avoid m$ [05:55] schestowitz-pi2 yes, i mentioned a lot the reddit angle [05:55] schestowitz-pi2 gonna leave in 30 mins [05:55] schestowitz-pi2 racing to finish some tasks first ● Mar 05 [06:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4j7k2yqxz59nc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:12] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ifxy3drk44hp2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 05 [07:28] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:46] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has left #boycottnovell ● Mar 05 [09:41] schestowitz-pi2 saved about 100gbp again [09:41] schestowitz-pi2 lisa and her van were back again [09:42] schestowitz-pi2 missing last week [09:42] schestowitz-pi2 not expired, just orphaned cargo [09:42] schestowitz-pi2 got 8 large packs of protein bars -- those are very expensive and very good diet [09:42] schestowitz-pi2 gonna catch up now ● Mar 05 [10:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@nqkitbgnqjad4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Mar 05 [11:23] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 i cluster wires into 'braids [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 with twisted metal strips [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 and try to put them away from sight [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 some can be made to go near or beneath items [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 so that they are barely visible [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 cords don't bother me [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 today i saw a nice-looking "gaming" mouse for 5 quid [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 didn't take it at the end [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 as i don't know the brand [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 and it might turns out to last 2 months, not 2 years [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 or 2 weeks [11:46] schestowitz-pi2 no return policy [11:55] schestowitz-pi2 on another topic, the new workflow is very pleasing and it's getting simpler for me to grasp mentally [11:55] schestowitz-pi2 after 20 years of more or less the same thing every day [11:55] schestowitz-pi2 when returning home we typically put in supermarkets' sites the items we found to assess the savings [11:55] schestowitz-pi2 the high-protien products are best bang/buck or bang/wdight [11:55] schestowitz-pi2 we must have "saved" about 150 pounds on just the protiein bars [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 most of them fit inmy backpack [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 but i took all there was in stock [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 some days there's none to be found, irrepsective of price [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 and vendors come and go [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 or start sucking, depending on their supplier's [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 so you need to recognise the faces of people, there are hundreds of stalls [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 no persistent slot at times [11:56] schestowitz-pi2 we now have a reserve of about 50kg in pasta, grain etc. [11:56] techrights[sec] Excellent! ● Mar 05 [12:00] schestowitz-pi2 we stock up not on the cheap stuff, just heavily discounted premium products [12:00] schestowitz-pi2 and in a decade we saw one mouse, only once, and he left on his own [12:00] schestowitz-pi2 we very very seldon let food spoil. very rare. rianne has a mental overview of the inventory. [12:00] schestowitz-pi2 and can be creative in mixing it. buckwheat and kabanos today (very east european) [12:00] schestowitz-pi2 she even found vegetarian kabanos, i think they're like 80-90% off original price [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/eu-cra-secure-coding-solution/ [12:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-berthub.eu | The EU's new Cyber Resilience Act is about to tell us how to code - Bert Hubert's writings [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 i look at this a third time [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 tbh, i am not familr enough with it to say something insightful [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 but we covered the similar "supply chain" plot [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 *ploy [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 in the US [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 where they try to complicate things for Free s/w [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 in the name of "protecting" us [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 and mention log4j a lot [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 because 2021 is just 2 months ago ;-) [12:02] schestowitz-pi2 and heartbleed was last week [12:03] schestowitz-pi2 found by google engineer [12:03] schestowitz-pi2 advertised by microsofters [12:03] schestowitz-pi2 for fud's wortth [12:03] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:07] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:10] techrights[sec] RMS and Perens are needed for input, but the former was cancelled, perhaps [12:10] techrights[sec] in preparation for all the politics which are now in the works. [12:10] techrights[sec] Without RMS, the rest at the FSF need to step up, if they have an interest [12:10] techrights[sec] in maintaining software Freedom. [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 any person who can maintain the goal [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 and get "shit done" [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 will be described as extremist [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 "religious" [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 unfit for the role [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 "NOT GOOD FOR FUND RAISING" [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 I'd not even submit a talk to libreplanet [12:15] schestowitz-pi2 and in a prior article I explained why [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 (i don't counder myself to be outlandish, but in a cowardly society any "misfit" or "outlier" stands out) [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 in reddit, from what you showed me, saying that gnu/linux works better than osux gets you ['flagged] [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 bakkt="success story" that zemlin brags about in his talk even AFTER the collapse (ponzi) [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 putting gnu on 100 million servers and desktops is "SUPPLY CHAIN CRISIS" [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 in the eyes of people who control panels, news, politicians, etc. [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 and hold jimmy by the b0lls while stuffing him with potatoes [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 KabanOS [12:16] schestowitz-pi2 look up "kaban" [12:16] techrights[sec] Yes, reddit only masquerades as a tech forum and is a severe source of [12:16] techrights[sec] misinformation, disinformation, and FUD against FOSs of all stripes, but [12:16] techrights[sec] especially against GNU and GNU.Linux [12:18] schestowitz-pi2 this is the source of [Reseach] that Breddit Robertson keeps bragging about [12:18] schestowitz-pi2 while uttering all the talking points against what saner users want [12:18] schestowitz-pi2 and posing as leet because "arch" and "tilting WM" [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 in a war of words the rules are different [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 money _can_ win, but not always [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 it gets to the point where paying t o win on ideas [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 it too much and too risky (blowback) [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 in the case of patents, pieter said that raising the lobbying bills of evil forces to the point [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 where they walk away from the table is the only war [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 *way [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 bar transformation of the political system [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 team upc does a ton of lobbying, we don't [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 they also control the media [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 tons of propaganda outlets disguised as news site [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 *sites [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 reddit is passing the labour costs to people like Breddit [12:24] schestowitz-pi2 who are using youtube to relay the BS [12:24] techrights[sec] Same for YouTube, you will get demonetized for promoting GNU/Linux and maybe [12:24] techrights[sec] even banned. [12:24] techrights[sec] Quite few sites fit that description. [12:24] techrights[sec] Yes that seems to be were he get a lot of BS from [12:26] schestowitz-pi2 reddit already wweeded out all the "greybeards" and "neckbeards" who can give a substantial [12:26] schestowitz-pi2 response and counter-point [12:26] schestowitz-pi2 which leaves idiots with "social justice warrior" as a reddit flair [12:26] schestowitz-pi2 to turf the space [12:26] schestowitz-pi2 after failing onen phd and exploring anotrher... in a completely unrelated discpline [12:27] techrights[sec] Precisely [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 i noticed that about reddit in 2007 already [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 not 2017 [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 novell turfing [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 against BN [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 and microsofters joining them [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 ganging up in comments [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 for bagel bill and ron hovsepian [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 whomm I've not received letters from in a long time [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 must have taken a short break from his home swimming session [12:29] schestowitz-pi2 to ask some attorney to pester with me [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 speaking of which, the 'founder' of sirius is working 16-hour shifts now [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 trying to save the company all in his own [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 while clients are fleeing [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 and debt cannot be repaid [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 serves him right... karma [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 the current pension provider was repeatedly warned not to do anything he asks for [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 while we still investigate the prior one [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 standard life must be handling pensions of like 10 million people [12:32] schestowitz-pi2 so it's a potentially huge scandal [12:43] techrights[sec] Wow. [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 my friend whom you saw in the photograph spoke in length about this [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 50% of his salay goes to pension [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 he had about 4-5 pensions already, one for each past employer [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 he's vested in standard life [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 to retire in 3.5 years (55) [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 he told me to accuse them of "theft" [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 but that's just semantics [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 I said to their managers something to that effect twice already [12:45] schestowitz-pi2 my colleagues don't even get as far as the management [12:47] techrights[sec] I suspect that there might be a very specific term or phrase which will [12:47] techrights[sec] launch major action against them if it is raised, but a big question is [12:47] techrights[sec] what (legally speaking) that actual phrase is. In many cases you have to [12:47] techrights[sec] use the exact term, I expect, if it is like dealing with banks or airlines. [12:47] techrights[sec] Of by a bit in the phrasing and they won't lift a finger and they certainly [12:47] techrights[sec] won't ever volunter information. [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 yes, this was brought up in the car this paast weds [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 and it's even worse when the person calling is a widow [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 or a child [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 and there is even less certainty or hard proof to press with [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 so he gave his partner a list of all the pension [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 i kept all the paperwork [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 from hem and payslip [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 that's not enoigh [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 *enough [12:49] schestowitz-pi2 when a colleague asked the company, sirius [12:50] schestowitz-pi2 they did not even reply! ● Mar 05 [14:09] schestowitz-pi2 "Fizz, a social media app where members of the Emory University community can anonymously publish text posts, polls and photos." https://emorywheel.com/sga-presidential-candidates-respond-to-title-ix-misogyny-discourse-on-fizz/ APP?? [14:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-emorywheel.com | SGA presidential candidates respond to Title IX, misogyny discourse on Fizz | The Emory Wheel [14:34] techrights[sec] gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/05/windows-share-lockdowns/ [14:34] techrights[sec] It would be useful in such posts to remind about the role that monopoly rents [14:34] techrights[sec] play and that they are now way below the market threshold at which they [14:34] techrights[sec] are possible. In other words, the balloon is deflating. [14:34] techrights[sec] Rapidly [14:34] techrights[sec] Look for another .gov bailout / handout soon. [14:34] techrights[sec] How much longer before the nations cannot avoid addressing the EPO? [14:34] techrights[sec] It is complicated by Germany's conflict of interest in regards to income. [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 got epo material [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 will do daily links _quickly_ [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 and leap to epo [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 catching up, sorry for that [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 i _did_ think about mentioning the monopoly rents in that post ^_^ [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 but did not at the end [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 i think TR does show some positive news for us [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 to keep morale higher [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 as for epo, what makes me hopeful is the dissent [14:35] schestowitz-pi2 maybe a breaking point soon [14:36] techrights[sec] It's often ignore and more often not even recognized. [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 epo staff are, in general, smart people [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 most are examiners [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 which makes them easy to work 'for [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 or 'with' [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 i'm hopeful that all this union-busting ("Bringing Teams Together") [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 will make the whole house of cards collapse [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 stakeholders are upset [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 Team UPC spent a lot on "lobbying" and bribing/grooming media [14:39] schestowitz-pi2 and we'll 'crash' their fake 'court' [14:39] techrights[sec] As far as the management component there at the EPO goes, there needs to be [14:39] techrights[sec] 100% turn over with no connection at all between the incoming and outgoing [14:39] techrights[sec] management. [14:39] techrights[sec] The staff are mostly good as far as I can tell but not the management [14:41] schestowitz-pi2 no, a lot of the important staff left years ago [14:41] schestowitz-pi2 and isn't coming back [14:41] schestowitz-pi2 now there are many type Zs [14:41] schestowitz-pi2 and they are not to blame [14:41] schestowitz-pi2 they just want to make a living [14:41] libertybox_ https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/GinaMacina60/status/1632374614184669187#m [14:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Gina Macina (@GinaMacina60): "Wikileaks/CableGate reveals Bill Gates Microsoft worked closely with governments. Microsoft gives them access to source code. US embassy cables: China uses access to Microsoft source code to help plot cyber warfare, US fears http://techrights.org/2010/12/06/microsoft-topsec-in-china/ https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632374614184669187" | La Contre-Voie [14:41] libertybox_ https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/Wireshark777/status/1632291190795272192#m [14:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | mojo #1776 #Free Assange (@Wireshark777): "http://techrights.org/2019/12/17/gates-secrets-gatekeeper/ https://theirishsentinel.com/2020/08/10/depopulation-through-forced-vaccination-the-zero-carbon-solution/" | La Contre-Voie - nitter [14:42] schestowitz-pi2 hilly-billy attracting attention to himself again [14:42] schestowitz-pi2 there is a price to be paid [14:45] techrights[sec] Ah [14:45] techrights[sec] Then maybe the whole thing needs a starting over, fresh from the beginning. ● Mar 05 [15:03] techrights[sec] A strong reason to harp on about monopoly rents is to kill the myth that m$ [15:03] techrights[sec] makes its money from OEM "sales" of Windows or MSO. The sales drive the [15:03] techrights[sec] monopoly in the case of Windows and the monopoly in turn provides income [15:03] techrights[sec] (though not necessarily enough to make a profit) With MSO, it is the monopoly [15:03] techrights[sec] on the file formats which drive the monopoly rents [15:03] techrights[sec] (though again not necessarily enough to make a profit there either) [15:03] techrights[sec] Either way, there is a myth falsely glorifying the company and their products [15:03] techrights[sec] It goes along with the conflation of common with popular. M$ may be common [15:04] techrights[sec] but it is certainly not popular and is indeed the reason that most people [15:04] techrights[sec] absolutely hate "computers" since they have no experience with real operating [15:04] techrights[sec] systems or real software. [15:12] schestowitz-pi2 can i reuse and edit your words for a later post? [15:12] schestowitz-pi2 btw, zdnet is next after cnet [15:12] schestowitz-pi2 layoffs, management canned, spam [15:12] schestowitz-pi2 zdnet very quiet lately [15:12] schestowitz-pi2 the clock is ticking on them [15:50] techrights[sec] Paraphrasing or expanding would be best if possible, [15:50] techrights[sec] I would not be surprised if ZDNet finally went away, they have been deinvesting [15:50] techrights[sec] for ages. For all practical purposes there is nothing left now. [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 the genral approach is [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 1) collect info [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 2) improve arguments [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 3) change the public debate [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 4) media joins our side [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 5) opponents perish or change behaviour [15:57] schestowitz-pi2 for EPO we're trying (4) [15:58] schestowitz-pi2 some media DID cover the latest EPO scandals [15:58] schestowitz-pi2 EPO is a monopoly and not accounrable [15:58] schestowitz-pi2 working on epo post atm ● Mar 05 [17:00] schestowitz-pi2 the fish has died [17:00] schestowitz-pi2 after 2 weeks [17:00] schestowitz-pi2 but i was expecting this, due to lack of eating ● Mar 05 [18:52] *{{___THE_BORG___}} has quit (Connection closed) [18:53] *{{___THE_BORG___}} (~{{___THE_@freenode-oks.rp9.09la3j.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [18:58] *{{___THE_BORG___}} has quit (Quit: Page closed) ● Mar 05 [21:08] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zddii85icr5xq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell