●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 ●● ● Apr 05 [02:14] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:14] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 05 [04:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 05 [06:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 05 [07:31] Techrights-sec restgarting httpd [07:31] Techrights-sec How much FOSS experience does Mendoza have? https://linuxgizmos.com/about/ [07:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/about/ ) [07:32] schestowitz-TR My last post on LinuxGizmos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163347 [07:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | My last post on LinuxGizmos | Tux Machines [07:32] schestowitz-TR I don't know his name [07:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:50] schestowitz-TR thanks for catching the downtime. Based on montastic's emails, that happened literally when I went to sleep and was corrected minutes later. Had nothing been done, there could be a 6-hour downtime. After 43 days apachetop also crashed, so I assume something in apache went a little funny. [07:52] Techrights-sec How much FOSS experience does Mendoza have? https://linuxgizmos.com/about/ [07:52] Techrights-sec He's mentioned in https://linuxgizmos.com/my-last-post-on-linuxgizmos/ [07:52] Techrights-sec I tried sifting through the Apache logs later but could not find anything [07:52] Techrights-sec incriminating. [07:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/my-last-post-on-linuxgizmos/ ) [07:53] schestowitz-TR yes, he got mentioned there [07:53] schestowitz-TR I said more in IRC [07:53] schestowitz-TR about linux.com and eric browsn [07:53] schestowitz-TR he's a casualty of spamnil zemlin [07:53] schestowitz-TR and zemlin has just hired some unqualified "social" spammer as editor [07:53] schestowitz-TR a person who does not even use Linux! [07:53] Techrights-sec Too bad [07:53] Techrights-sec Yes. Zemlin is working /against/ Linux and seems to always have been doing so. [07:54] schestowitz-TR I thought about doing a video about it [07:54] schestowitz-TR maybe I should [07:54] schestowitz-TR but I don't have much to go with for more than 2 mins [07:55] Techrights-sec ack [07:58] schestowitz-TR I have (this morning) marked all the remainingf libreplanet talk as "read" [07:58] schestowitz-TR At this point I sift through many low-quality [07:58] schestowitz-TR or not-relevant-to-us [07:58] schestowitz-TR "talks" [07:58] schestowitz-TR some of them are very low quality and can barely be called talks [07:58] schestowitz-TR to think they had snowden as keynote years ago [07:58] schestowitz-TR this year's keynote was nothing special [07:58] schestowitz-TR and talks about two artists and their maca dna boat [07:58] schestowitz-TR very odd they eleveated this to keynote [07:58] schestowitz-TR mike gerwitzx stepped down it seems [07:58] schestowitz-TR at least from the FSD things [07:58] schestowitz-TR but amin bendali took his place immeiatelyt [07:59] Techrights-sec yes I noticed in a spot check. They were too numerous so I stopped checking [07:59] Techrights-sec further. ● Apr 05 [08:00] schestowitz-TR yesterday I had to go through 6 talks before finding something adequate [08:00] schestowitz-TR and it was aobout ebooks [08:00] schestowitz-TR and not so relevant to us [08:01] schestowitz-TR so that was likel;y a sign that I've exhausted the stock [08:01] schestowitz-TR if you watch the librevr talk you may get a laugh [08:01] Techrights-sec that is unfortunate, but matches what I saw [08:04] Techrights-sec On another topic, there could be a use for SUEPO to contact the national news [08:04] Techrights-sec services directly via e-mail with a short paragraph in English or in translation [08:04] schestowitz-TR you assume they have not thought of that or have not done that [08:04] schestowitz-TR this is not a new issue and we wrote many articles about the media [08:04] schestowitz-TR blackout [08:04] schestowitz-TR speaking of which, ursula and otehr eu officials get flack in twitter [08:04] schestowitz-TR citing some of our posts [08:04] schestowitz-TR the EPO scandals spill over to EU [08:06] Techrights-sec yes I assume that [08:06] Techrights-sec twitter censors heavily based on pro-M$ politics, and pro-M$ is pro-software [08:06] Techrights-sec patent [08:06] Techrights-sec Is there a published e-mail address for a SUEPO contact, should a way to break [08:06] Techrights-sec the news blackout be found? [08:06] schestowitz-TR I think it is on their web site, but SUPO (different one) might watch the comms [08:08] Techrights-sec They don't have a standalone e-mail address? It would be dangerous to run [08:08] Techrights-sec all their written communications through the EPO management. [08:09] schestowitz-TR the suepo domain is separate from epo [08:09] schestowitz-TR SUPO is an intel agency [08:09] schestowitz-TR so I was making a joke [08:47] schestowitz-TR otrs [08:47] schestowitz-TR video about LF [08:47] schestowitz-TR OTR [08:47] schestowitz-TR OTA [08:47] Techrights-sec ah ● Apr 05 [09:05] schestowitz-TR I have avoided naming anyone but Zemlin and the founder of LG [09:05] schestowitz-TR as the new people deserve benfit of the doubt [09:05] schestowitz-TR sort of [09:05] schestowitz-TR it's 20 mins long [09:05] schestowitz-TR working on the text now [09:15] schestowitz-TR draft [09:22] Techrights-sec ack [09:22] Techrights-sec ack [09:22] Techrights-sec The announcementof interest ought ot have a short, one-line-or-less description [09:22] Techrights-sec also "includes an image" of what? [09:27] schestowitz-TR thanks, I have made several improvements [09:27] schestowitz-TR I will think of more info to add while it's processing [09:27] schestowitz-TR expect the "news" to dry up some more now that Eric Brown is out [09:27] Techrights-sec np [09:27] Techrights-sec yes, and other news sites seem to be slowing down. ITWire to name one has [09:27] Techrights-sec been unavailable for days [09:28] Techrights-sec others have been slow to post or not posted at all the last few days [09:42] schestowitz-TR don't wanna rammnble much [09:42] schestowitz-TR but yes [09:42] schestowitz-TR it's the same with patents [09:42] schestowitz-TR you get updates from maybe 20% of what you added to the feeds [09:42] schestowitz-TR the downside is [09:42] schestowitz-TR we don'\t know what goes on [09:42] schestowitz-TR or have very fewe data points [09:42] schestowitz-TR yupside is, [09:42] schestowitz-TR we have less ideaological opposition [09:42] schestowitz-TR and less "competition" [09:42] schestowitz-TR including in searches [09:42] schestowitz-TR but either way [09:42] schestowitz-TR we are NOT IN CONTROL OF WHAT OTHER SITES DO [09:42] schestowitz-TR it is what it is [09:43] Techrights-sec 20% would be a very high estimate, the RSS feeds I see are about 5% per day at [09:43] Techrights-sec best [09:43] Techrights-sec yes, there are so few covering topics that a great many important issues fall [09:43] Techrights-sec between the cracks. [09:44] schestowitz-TR my 20% figures was for weekly [09:44] schestowitz-TR as I started reading patents only on sundays [09:44] schestowitz-TR I am notw experimenting with daily again [09:44] schestowitz-TR but the yield is not good [09:44] schestowitz-TR the net is empty [09:44] schestowitz-TR and I stopped checking Gulag Noise alaerts [09:44] schestowitz-TR they are too noisy [09:44] schestowitz-TR I might even cancel them all [09:44] schestowitz-TR one more step towards gulag-free life [09:45] Techrights-sec ack [09:53] Techrights-sec BTW the backup drive here is pushing 90% full. Using rsync means that [09:53] Techrights-sec deletion would have to occur on the server in order to save space. [09:53] Techrights-sec Thoughts? [09:54] schestowitz-TR rsync has a flag for deleting files that can no longer be found on the server, so if you rsync across from TR the older DB dumps that are no longer there would also get removed from your HDD [09:54] schestowitz-TR I personally do not like setting that flag, in case an accidental file deletion then gets propagated to the backup to [09:54] schestowitz-TR *too [09:55] schestowitz-TR one workaround is doing a run with that option once a month [09:55] schestowitz-TR so that run is a 'compacting pass' ● Apr 05 [10:09] Techrights-sec yes, that implies that we delete more of them from the server [10:10] schestowitz-TR you already wrote a script that culls out older stacks of backups [10:21] Techrights-sec yes that thins out a portion but perhaps more should be thinned out manuall [10:21] Techrights-sec manually on occasion? [10:23] schestowitz-TR my backup regime for the site is rather poor [10:23] schestowitz-TR I trust the RAID, if any, too much [10:23] schestowitz-TR sometimes I take copies of the latest DB [10:23] schestowitz-TR or the latest year in the uploads directory [10:24] schestowitz-TR my relationship with the admin improved [10:24] schestowitz-TR compared to one year ago [10:24] schestowitz-TR but it's good to have backups in case of total hardware [10:24] schestowitz-TR breakdowns [10:24] schestowitz-TR maybe this coming weekend I will dump a full copy onto the new laptop [10:24] schestowitz-TR it's about 160GB, so can take days to complete ● Apr 05 [11:06] Techrights-sec It's good that there is improvement. [11:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jqfgv2aywnd5a.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 05 [12:08] schestowitz-TR The platforms chosen by the EFF contradict its own stance of policy (if they still have any) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-your-tax-dollars-work [12:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Your Tax Dollars At Work | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:09] Techrights-sec They go so far as to boost M$ these days. [12:09] Techrights-sec At least they also mention the Internet Archive but that should have been [12:09] Techrights-sec featured first and foremost among the options presented. [12:09] Techrights-sec Ogg would have been a better container than MP3 [12:13] schestowitz-TR there is anon-stat.eff.org [12:13] schestowitz-TR tbh, no such thing should exist [12:13] schestowitz-TR they should not behave like a company [12:13] schestowitz-TR this loads up when you open their side [12:13] schestowitz-TR whose idea was it? [12:13] schestowitz-TR they use the term "big tech" several time in this episode [12:13] schestowitz-TR maybe they should get back to shilling DDG [12:13] schestowitz-TR and maybe https://www.eff.org/pages/effs-diversity-statement [12:13] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF's Commitment to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:13] schestowitz-TR this likely means a quotas system [12:14] Techrights-sec ack [12:15] schestowitz-TR I am alol for diversity [12:15] schestowitz-TR but quotas are not the way [12:15] schestowitz-TR they can be damaging [12:15] schestowitz-TR because they necessarily means lowering one's quality of recruit [12:15] schestowitz-TR or their suitability for the job [12:15] schestowitz-TR mostly for optic's sake [12:15] schestowitz-TR and then companies reward for it [12:15] schestowitz-TR they do for D &I [12:15] schestowitz-TR but it's more about defanging the watchdog IMHO [12:16] Techrights-sec there are very strong arguments against quotas [12:16] Techrights-sec recruiting and call for papers can be done "blind" to much greater effect. [12:16] Techrights-sec See how LFSE did it, yet were attacked for having neither quotas nor sucking CocC [12:16] schestowitz-TR attacked? [12:16] schestowitz-TR That's what social control media is for [12:16] schestowitz-TR Ukraine obliterated the Web this way [12:16] schestowitz-TR siccing mobs [12:18] Techrights-sec Yes the mob went after him and, in person, threatened physical violence IIRC [12:18] Techrights-sec Several references were in the links many years ago including a long interview [12:18] Techrights-sec s/LFSE/SELF/ [12:41] schestowitz-TR off topic ran [12:41] schestowitz-TR rant: [12:41] schestowitz-TR techdirt resorted to very bad language in recent years [12:42] schestowitz-TR like very bad words like "fucking" in headlines [12:42] schestowitz-TR the topics covered are not what they had been until a decade ago [12:42] schestowitz-TR I often do not agree with the position or the conclusion either [12:42] schestowitz-TR but then again mmasnick isn't the sole mwrite there [12:42] schestowitz-TR he used to sling like 10 decent posts a day [12:42] schestowitz-TR that changed after a while [12:42] schestowitz-TR and now it's TONS of politics [12:42] schestowitz-TR or some things about police [12:42] schestowitz-TR that addresses a set of ssubjects already covered by media [12:42] schestowitz-TR and leaves vacuum in areas like copyrights [12:43] Techrights-sec It's so that the topics are more easily downranked in the search engine results, [12:43] Techrights-sec as sort of reverse SEO [12:43] Techrights-sec When they stick to technology, and technology policy, they still do a good job. [12:43] Techrights-sec With politics and related controversies, they often pick up easily debunked but [12:43] Techrights-sec populist positions. [12:43] Techrights-sec Yes, they used to cover copyright issues quite thoroughly and are losing the [12:43] Techrights-sec plot there. [12:43] schestowitz-TR it is just that copyright issue make up no more than 20% of the total [12:43] schestowitz-TR patents not even 5-10% [12:45] Techrights-sec ack [12:47] schestowitz-TR i guess that on some rather supierficial level I am ok with i [12:47] schestowitz-TR *it [12:47] schestowitz-TR knowing it means less "competition" for us [12:47] schestowitz-TR but sometimes it helps with a wider set of people is outraged by [12:47] schestowitz-TR obvious bad policy [12:47] schestowitz-TR EPO and Microsoft crimes are among thosee [12:47] schestowitz-TR when did you LAST see ANY article concerning software patents? [12:47] schestowitz-TR maybe we can get will smith to slap some patent troll on stage [12:47] schestowitz-TR and bring the issue back to the center/front [12:48] Techrights-sec I figure more sites covering those topics help with outreach [12:48] Techrights-sec Last? Months ago and then mabye a year or so before that again. [12:48] schestowitz-TR yes, I was going to say some time last year [12:57] schestowitz-TR fossforce gets paid by Zemlin for this webspam of LF https://fossforce.com/2022/04/free-training-and-certification-linux-foundation-taking-submissions-for-lift-scholarships see http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ [12:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Free Training and Certification: Linux Foundation Taking Submissions for LiFT Scholarships - FOSS Force [12:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights [12:57] schestowitz-TR It is worth remembering that only years afo fossforce was a vocal critic [12:57] schestowitz-TR of LF [12:57] schestowitz-TR will they persist with a consistent position on that issue? [12:57] schestowitz-TR haha, not bloody likely !! [12:57] Techrights-sec :( [12:57] Techrights-sec unfortunate. [12:57] schestowitz-TR the modus operandi of EPO management [12:58] schestowitz-TR and winston in 1984 ● Apr 05 [13:01] Techrights-sec ack [13:01] schestowitz-TR Winston Nichols [13:06] schestowitz-TR if you can suggest a video topic, it would help me a lot [13:06] schestowitz-TR a tad slow at epo and linux is just fluff [13:06] Techrights-sec ack [13:06] Techrights-sec if there were more data to track the decline of Linux coverage that would [13:06] Techrights-sec be useful; there is data on the general dismantling of journalism but nothing [13:06] Techrights-sec specific to Linux or FOSS or even general ICT [13:08] schestowitz-TR we covered this in the past [13:08] schestowitz-TR also, as you note, the real news isn't to do with linux [13:08] schestowitz-TR but all topics [13:08] schestowitz-TR or [13:08] schestowitz-TR all of "the web" [13:08] schestowitz-TR or "readers' 'consumption'" [13:08] schestowitz-TR I am not in a position to comment on this [13:08] schestowitz-TR but it would be a nice dissertatioin/thesis topic [13:08] schestowitz-TR which would involve collecting a lot of data [13:08] schestowitz-TR like # of writers [13:08] schestowitz-TR number of sites [13:08] schestowitz-TR mind you, social control media is rotting also [13:08] schestowitz-TR inc. gulagtube [13:08] schestowitz-TR they juyst try to squeeze some cash on the way out [13:09] schestowitz-TR OTA, found something at epo.orgf [13:09] Techrights-sec ack [13:21] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:55] schestowitz-TR https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/BBB [13:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/BBB ) [13:55] schestowitz-TR i read quickly through it [13:55] schestowitz-TR JS+social contropl media+dns [13:55] schestowitz-TR bloat shit = 3-4 days offline [13:55] Techrights-sec ack [13:55] schestowitz-TR he mentions gulag clown at the end [13:55] schestowitz-TR $500/year [13:55] schestowitz-TR I should show this to some idiots [13:55] schestowitz-TR maybe they will stomp saying "Google is your friend" ● Apr 05 [14:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 05 [15:01] schestowitz-TR ota\ [15:01] schestowitz-TR I keep pushing the point about vaccines and patents [15:01] schestowitz-TR which I think will help [15:02] schestowitz-TR given that the audience includes many patent examiners [15:02] schestowitz-TR I hope I speak in an accent and pace that makes it easy to understand [15:02] schestowitz-TR even for those whose English is not a first language [15:02] schestowitz-TR some people don't take into account the pace and the target [15:02] schestowitz-TR audience, so their ability to get a message across is impeded [15:02] schestowitz-TR apmnil just chews up lots of words and is buzzword-dropping [15:02] schestowitz-TR no wonder nobody watches that shit [15:02] schestowitz-TR but the EPO's presidents are appalling spreakers [15:02] schestowitz-TR it's like watching a couple of frenchmen in a fish market [15:02] schestowitz-TR of course their mpoor communication skills work in our favour [15:02] Techrights-sec ack [15:02] Techrights-sec I think so [15:02] Techrights-sec putting his shit on that site is killing it on purpose [15:02] Techrights-sec they are not in their office because of their skills or abilities, which they [15:02] Techrights-sec generally lack [15:03] schestowitz-TR this is what senior staff has long complained about [15:03] schestowitz-TR the hiring standards have collapsed also for examiners [15:04] schestowitz-TR now I can record another video on ther other laptop while the first is processing [15:04] schestowitz-TR I think I will use both for this [15:04] schestowitz-TR can you think of a pressing topic? [15:34] Techrights-sec not off the top of my head [15:50] schestowitz-TR I eneded up doing a video showing how I use the new setup ● Apr 05 [16:20] schestowitz-TR drafgt [16:25] Techrights-sec Does SUEPO have a news or blog feed covering the strike before and after? [16:25] Techrights-sec \ [16:25] schestowitz-TR yes, rss and web site. the media ignored that. [16:26] Techrights-sec then that should be linked in the post [16:26] Techrights-sec thanks [16:26] schestowitz-TR adding [16:34] Techrights-sec I think it helps to try to drive traffic their direction [16:35] schestowitz-TR if done too often, either way, it contributes to the idea of 'collusion' or coordination [16:41] Techrights-sec :/ [16:41] Techrights-sec Their site is not navigable [16:41] schestowitz-TR they 'modernised' it about 5 years ago [16:42] Techrights-sec One can't just start at the SUEPO site and find out their activities and goals [16:42] Techrights-sec maybe they like it like that. [16:42] Techrights-sec Modernized as in removed all aspects of usability and discoverabuility in [16:42] Techrights-sec exchange for "engagement" as measured by fruitless interacvtion for long [16:42] Techrights-sec durations. [16:54] Techrights-sec (around but not near the computer) ● Apr 05 [19:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [19:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) ● Apr 05 [20:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bymdnm2npdwji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 05 [21:38] schestowitz-TR draft [21:38] Techrights-sec ack [21:38] Techrights-sec a few words about what is exposed in the metadata would help [21:43] schestowitz-TR done [21:44] Techrights-sec thanks [21:44] schestowitz-TR at least you can tell that they feel the heat :-) [21:44] Techrights-sec yes but their reaction is to attack the messenger not fix their behavior [21:50] Techrights-sec ack ● Apr 05 [22:18] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)