IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 05, 2021

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DeniseHollar: @schestowitz That Lizard is a Beauty....!🦎🤗

https://twitter.com/DLlcasel/status/1445102450256629767

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DLlcasel: @schestowitz https://t.co/o9qMrs1vyy

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DLlcasel: @schestowitz https://t.co/o9qMrs1vyy

https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1445092048730734598

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @ibec_irl @sweeney_aidan @OBrienFergal @schestowitz

https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1445091998105587736

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @sweeney_aidan @ibec_irl @schestowitz

https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1445047550571122691

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @wikileaks @schestowitz

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https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21698335

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Western media: Putin kills opposition. Meanwhile: WikiLeaks (@wikileaks): "Pompeo calls for prosecution of sources who spoke to Yahoo News about plans to kidnap or kill #Assange 'Those 30 people (sources) should all be prosecuted for speaking about classified activity inside CIA' #WikiLeaks15 https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-sources-for-yahoo-news-wiki-leaks-report-should-all-be-prosecuted-2

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> nitter.eu | WikiLeaks (@wikileaks): "Pompeo calls for prosecution of sources who spoke to Yahoo News about plans to kidnap or kill #Assange 'Those 30 people (sources) should all be prosecuted for speaking about classified activity inside CIA' #WikiLeaks15 https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-sources-for-yahoo-news-wiki-leaks-report-should-all-be-prosecuted-234907037.html" | nitter

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<li><h5><a href="https://nitter.eu/DarDar79046609/status/1445033951395942403">Darlene (@DarDar79046609): "Jason, This topic has already been proposed to the mailing list community with positive results. See: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007227.html" | nitter</a></h5>

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/DarDar79046609/status/1445033951395942403">Darlene )

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https://nitter.eu/DarDar79046609/status/1445033951395942403"

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Darlene (@DarDar79046609): "Jason, This topic has already been proposed to the mailing list community with positive results. See: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007227.html" | nitter

https://twitter.com/DarDar79046609/status/1445033447999770632

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DarDar79046609: Also known as the CARTEL, and less known as The ROYAL CANADIAN INTERNET CABAL https://t.co/sbgApRdE8x

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #geminiProtocol in #newsgroups #nntp #usenet https://t.co/HcUY1cvsZy

https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/1445015098653806592

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KrapulaPhD: ❗️ https://t.co/oZ4byYGnfu

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: Saying you need #twitter to reach "audience" is like claiming you need a #facebook account to have "friends" and ne… https://t.co/6yAyg1mHNt

https://twitter.com/mwarlimd77/status/1445009943887757312

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mwarlimd77: @schestowitz To the HELL #larsvilkstohell https://t.co/1Kwn1jJEBB

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mwarlimd77: @schestowitz To the HELL #larsvilkstohell https://t.co/1Kwn1jJEBB

https://twitter.com/mustafauny/status/1445004788962312195

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mustafauny: @schestowitz BIH #larsvilkstohell

https://twitter.com/Jontafkasi/status/1444949431011401731

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Jontafkasi: @schestowitz @georgebernhard I wonder what behaviours this kind of messaging will encourage?

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21698353

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PTAB throws out loads of #fakepatents and the coy #patent #litigation firms cannot contain their toxic bias https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/developments-re-fintiv-discretionary-1462302/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.jdsupra.com | Developments re Fintiv Discretionary Denials of IPR Petitions | Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton LLP - JDSupra

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21698335

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spamnil only wrote on legitimate issues long enough to start to gain a little

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credibility. He appears to have then traded that in as quickly as a he could

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for a say-forpay approach and moved down into "churnalism" and irrelevacy.

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It may pay some of his bills for a while but for how long before he is discarded

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and at what professional cost? No one in tech believes him a minute nor

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gives him even a shred of trust, so his intended audience is elsewhere.

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, outside tech.

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FB is milking the outage to distract the press from the 60 Minutes interview.

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So far it's a complete distraction.

http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/01/iloat-cases-epo-repays-excessive-strike-deductions-tensions-remain/

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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILOAT cases: EPO repays excessive strike deductions, tensions remain - Kluwer Patent Blog

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Concerned observer

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OCTOBER 4, 2021 AT 5:47 PM

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Question: has Circular 347 been set aside by the EPO? That is, has the EPO now amended its Service Regulations and associated instruments to remove all of the restrictions on the right to strike that were held by the ILO AT to be unlawful?

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Kay

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OCTOBER 5, 2021 AT 10:04 AM

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no, why?

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A careful analysis of the decision is necessary first (December council), and a thinking on alternatives (March council), a study on options and a guiding consultation (June, likely September Council), study on financial impact (December council), the obligatory (tick box) internal consultation on the draft documents, before final documents appear and are decided on in the June council. But for political reasons, the procedure needs to be slowed,

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so implementation will be in a January (hence decision must be done by a december council) and of course the (re-)election process should not be disturbed by such a topic, hence move all back for another half year.

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And it may not be that the EPO is without rules for such a long time, hence the circular remains marked as valid for any internal issues.

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Concerned observer

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OCTOBER 4, 2021 AT 5:50 PM

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I am not particularly surprised at the refusal of EPO management to apologise for imposing, or at least perpetuating, unlawful restrictions on the right to association. However that refusal demonstrates that the EPO’s management adopts a belligerent attitude towards its staff even when it is clear that, by effectively acknowledging past mistakes, an apology might help to ease social tensions. The EPO’s very limited application of the outcome

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of the ILO AT judgements simply rubs salt into the wounds, as it is plainly an attempt to deprive the affected staff of the moral damages to which they are entitled.

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My recollection is that Campinos was selected by the AC on the basis that he would restore social peace at the EPO. If this episode is anything to go by, he still VERY far from achieving that objective. One would think that the AC would take this into account when considering whether to renew his term of office for another 4 years. Similarly, one might think that the AC would also take note of the huge outcry from sections of the patent

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profession against certain policies (such as requiring unnecessary amendments to the description or making VICOs mandatory for oral hearings) that Campinos has imposed with little or no consultation. However, that would be to confuse the AC with a regulatory body that actually gives two hoots about the EPO’s staff or its users.

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Urgh.

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OCTOBER 5, 2021 AT 9:56 AM

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The AC is already complaining that the no. of grants is not increasing anymore (empty cupboards – we cannot anymore)

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They don’t care.

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And the money for any “moral damage” will come from the EPO, and thus from the money the EPO would otherwise inject into the RFPSS, thus from staff itself again.

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(no, it will not be taken from the bonuses of management who made the wrong decision, nor from the EPO-TIF (investment funds), because not increasing that will lead to a cut in kickback bonuses – hence staff will have to pay for their own moral damage management inflicted upon them)

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Anon

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OCTOBER 4, 2021 AT 6:14 PM

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I think the AC are just paying lip service to social peace and they’re perfectly happy with what has turned out to be just a slight variant of the Batistelli regime.

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