●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022 ●● ● Feb 06 [00:36] schestowitz-TR 1. seems the reason the capsule was not updating was a lockfile being stuck there [00:36] schestowitz-TR I removed it and now it seems to be going OK [00:36] schestowitz-TR 2. for the first time in a while I checked the sizes of wordpress dumps, gz'ed [00:36] schestowitz-TR in the past week sometimes the file grew bigger, sometimes smaller, still [00:36] schestowitz-TR around 1.4gb [00:36] schestowitz-TR this is not the behavious I am accustomed to [00:36] schestowitz-TR unless wordpress does very heavy internal caching, so it made me wonder [00:36] schestowitz-TR if the apache hangups COULD be related to this [00:36] schestowitz-TR I have no reason to believe data was lost, I saw no issue at the user end of [00:36] schestowitz-TR admin side [00:36] schestowitz-TR but I wonder why the size changes [00:36] schestowitz-TR it varies as much as 200MB compressed between nights [00:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:40] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 06 [01:09] schestowitz-TR Did I miss sometghing in the ytalksm session? [01:09] Techrights-sec Nothing new. [01:10] schestowitz-TR Did I miss sometghing in the ytalksm session? [01:10] schestowitz-TR handing over tyo colleague at work atm, will be free in a moment [01:10] schestowitz-TR I have some notes on what to test next and I want to finish cleaning RSS before 2 [01:10] schestowitz-TR :40am cutoff (bulletin) [01:10] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc/#is#already#formatted. ########## [01:10] Techrights-sec ack [01:11] schestowitz-TR the rogi file is in root and isn't too pretty [01:11] schestowitz-TR orig. [01:31] schestowitz-TR handover sent (work) [01:31] schestowitz-TR regarding wordpresss, one theory is that internal WP cashe gets flushed, thenn re [01:31] schestowitz-TR built [01:31] schestowitz-TR then flushed again [01:31] schestowitz-TR perfectly possible [01:31] schestowitz-TR but rare [01:32] Techrights-sec Not familiar with inner workings of WP. [01:43] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:43] schestowitz-TR yay! gemini refresh was successful, took almost half an hour to catch up [01:43] schestowitz-TR sorry, multitasking too much atm [01:44] Techrights-sec WP seems overly complicated. [01:44] Techrights-sec Excellent. It normally takes 7 - 9 minutes. If there were any articles missing [01:44] Techrights-sec they can still be fetched, if they are in RSS, by adjusting the relative date. [01:44] Techrights-sec Older articles are more work to fetch. [01:45] schestowitz-TR let me paste somr todo notes [01:46] schestowitz DONE finish proxy, firewall, files etc. [01:46] schestowitz debug errors nginx (some unix warnings), double slashes/traversal deeper (not urgent), [01:46] schestowitz css and technical proxy enhancements, push to git [01:46] schestowitz SOLVED tr-gemini does not refressh [01:46] schestowitz DONE search and replace proxies in site, weed out third party ones [01:46] schestowitz DONE change vulpes [01:46] schestowitz proxy: add ssl at end? [01:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [01:52] Techrights-sec ok. Can you show an example ofthe double slashes? I have one mitigation in [01:52] Techrights-sec place but need to know if it should be moved to elsewhere in the program. [01:52] Techrights-sec SSL can be added as per normal for Ngninx. [01:52] Techrights-sec https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate-for-nginx-in-ubuntu-20-04-1 [01:52] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.digitalocean.com | How To Create a Self-Signed SSL Certificate for Nginx in Ubuntu 20.04 | DigitalOcean [01:53] schestowitz-TR on the page, any page, navigate to git, then browse the repository. you will see... [01:53] schestowitz-TR re double slashes, it's often adding an additional one, need to find steps to reproduce still [01:55] Techrights-sec ack [01:55] Techrights-sec ok fixed [01:59] Techrights-sec see ~gemini/bin/gemini-proxy.pl [01:59] Techrights-sec gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr-git/ is missing. Looking. [01:59] schestowitz-TR it leaves out the base dir ● Feb 06 [02:12] Techrights-sec fixed [02:12] Techrights-sec what is an example of the "traversal deeper" item? [02:12] schestowitz-TR I think it's that thing you've just tackled, let me see if nginx still have stuff in error log file [02:15] schestowitz-TR that issue seems limited to requests for ~chat [02:15] schestowitz-TR OK, that seems to alwo correleta with double slahes [02:15] Techrights-sec gemini-proxy.service has to be restarted each time the script is updated [02:15] Techrights-sec ok checking [02:18] schestowitz-TR curiously, techrights is nnow 4 servers, or 2+2 [02:18] schestowitz-TR DB container, httpd container, gemnini back end, and nginx front end [02:18] schestowitz-TR for any given article [02:38] schestowitz-TR updated [02:38] schestowitz-TR refreshed [02:38] schestowitz-TR restarted [02:41] schestowitz "Summary of changes" under http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Links/ [02:41] Techrights-sec ack [02:41] Techrights-sec ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl [02:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights [02:43] Techrights-sec ack [02:43] Techrights-sec hmm. which script was that made from? [02:43] Techrights-sec ... [02:44] schestowitz-TR side point: only the wiki and blog sections ought to link to "original" , ad the [02:44] schestowitz-TR rest have other url topology ad would lead to 404s on apache [02:48] Techrights-sec ok, the others can be removed. ● Feb 06 [03:00] Techrights-sec I've fixe it for the wiki but what is a sample URL for the blog section? [03:00] Techrights-sec ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl [03:00] schestowitz-TR adding ssl atm, takes minutes to generate entropy [03:01] schestowitz-TR I've just paused it to update perl and restart [03:21] Techrights-sec ack [03:21] Techrights-sec ok the 'changes' link should work again [03:22] schestowitz-TR updated [03:22] schestowitz-TR for perl [03:22] schestowitz-TR trying to sort out ssl, it complains about the cert's form atm [03:25] schestowitz-TR ok, fixed [03:25] schestowitz-TR https should work now [03:25] schestowitz-TR i will push to git the nginx ocongig late [03:26] schestowitz-TR but I think I used a cipher so strong that falkon, not the firefox things, [03:26] schestowitz-TR moans about it [03:26] Techrights-sec ack [03:26] Techrights-sec checking [03:26] Techrights-sec ack [03:26] Techrights-sec checking [03:27] Techrights-sec chromium probably complains worse [03:27] schestowitz-TR i do not have it installed [03:30] schestowitz-TR an old chrome on another machine warns but let's me in if I insist [03:30] schestowitz-TR but like the official site, I will keep it without ssl BY DEFAULT [03:30] schestowitz-TR to avoid some of this scaremongering [03:30] schestowitz-TR if the browser insists on https it'll be there [03:30] schestowitz-TR self-signed [03:30] Techrights-sec chromium probably complains worse [03:30] Techrights-sec atm me neither [03:37] schestowitz-TR pushed to git moments ago [03:37] schestowitz-TR do you think it is worthwhile changing url.sh to add the gateway url to [03:37] schestowitz-TR social control media? when new articles get posted in Techrights [03:38] Techrights-sec The Gemini proxy? It's ideally a temporary service, so it should not be [03:38] Techrights-sec pushed too much where it will get archived a lot. Maybe the word temporary [03:38] Techrights-sec ought to appear in the service's content and in the title? [03:41] schestowitz-TR the word temporary would not best edescribe what it is [03:41] schestowitz-TR i am thiunking... [03:41] schestowitz-TR at least it does link to originals [03:41] schestowitz-TR so spinders will trest it accordingly [03:41] schestowitz-TR if they work properly, which you don't know... [03:41] schestowitz-TR Maybe rework "See aleo: [03:41] schestowitz-TR to say, this a Geminino gateway for x and we suggest using proper, standalone [03:41] schestowitz-TR [link to gemini software] [03:49] schestowitz-TR site backup taken just now [03:49] schestowitz-TR compressing [03:49] schestowitz-TR total wordpress db size 7.6 gb [03:49] schestowitz-TR let's see what that compressed to tonight [03:49] schestowitz-TR 400mb and going... (gz) [03:49] schestowitz-TR i now see baidu in the gateway's logs [03:49] schestowitz-TR well, at least we know it links to the originalk http/html [03:49] schestowitz-TR might need to reword preamble a little [03:49] schestowitz-TR that could even add images (added to the page for presentation near top [03:49] schestowitz-TR I can enahance it a bit later if we agree on some changes [03:49] schestowitz-TR oh, compressed dump complete, I think this might boil down to caching in WP [03:49] Techrights-sec ack [03:49] Techrights-sec I've added an advisory to the link. [03:49] Techrights-sec ok [03:51] schestowitz " [03:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/gimp-taught-in-libraries/ [03:51] schestowitz and: This is only a proxy HTTP-Gemini gateway. We highly recommend using a proper Gemini Client Software instead. [03:51] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 6/2/2022: NuTyX 22.02.4, GIMP Taught in Libraries | Techrights [03:51] schestowitz " [03:51] schestowitz maybe missing words before URL [03:51] schestowitz "and: This" [03:52] schestowitz in "a Gemini" - > "Gemini" (grammar)? [03:52] schestowitz-TR restarted perl unit [03:56] Techrights-sec ack [03:56] Techrights-sec ok try the new file [03:56] schestowitz-TR ok, one minute [03:56] schestowitz-TR this pi has turned into somewhat of a powerhouse [03:56] schestowitz-TR many gemini and http/s requests per day [03:57] schestowitz-TR done, updated ● Feb 06 [04:00] Techrights-sec thanks [04:00] Techrights-sec :( and then link an ifram from the original to the proxy :/ [04:01] schestowitz-TR maybe the url at the top can become [04:01] schestowitz-TR lol because yes, it would loook chaotic and in fact recrusive afaik [04:01] schestowitz-TR geeks' head explodes!!! [04:10] schestowitz-TR pushed minor fix to git [04:10] schestowitz-TR make sure to pull asap [04:11] schestowitz-TR ok text update [04:11] schestowitz-TR d [04:11] Techrights-sec ok text update [04:11] Techrights-sec d [04:23] schestowitz-TR pushed minor fix to git [04:23] schestowitz-TR make sure to pull asap [04:23] schestowitz-TR working to fix an issue where http (not https) urls try to use the gateway [04:23] schestowitz-TR instead of going to original URLs (http) [04:23] schestowitz-TR just looked, cannot find that bbit eaile, will post rss links stuff instead [04:23] schestowitz-TR I think you can catch this faster [04:23] schestowitz-TR basically the gateway trtied to find every http) prt 80) in the gateway [04:23] schestowitz-TR this impacts Daily Links and can lead to many 404s on the gateaway ● Feb 06 [06:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 06 [07:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:10] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 06 [08:09] Techrights-sec ok chekcing [08:09] Techrights-sec I see it. It may have to be fixed upstream in the other gemini script. [08:09] Techrights-sec can you try with the version in ~gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl ? [08:09] Techrights-sec I cannot duplicate the problem here so it may be the script there is an older [08:09] Techrights-sec one. (I can see the problem there howevr) [08:09] Techrights-sec Wait. Those are identical, it is already uptodate. [08:09] Techrights-sec Strange [08:09] Techrights-sec sudo systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service ? [08:10] Techrights-sec ok I am seeing some issue in dealing with quirks. It kind of chokes when [08:10] Techrights-sec fed http:/ instead of http:// though both are valid only the latter is common. [08:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: though; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// though ) [08:10] schestowitz-TR back [08:21] Techrights-sec found another bug related to that... [08:21] Techrights-sec try ~/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl [08:23] schestowitz-TR done [08:23] Techrights-sec that fixes at least two problems though I can't duplicate the main problem [08:23] Techrights-sec here. [08:23] Techrights-sec Thanks. Checking. [08:23] Techrights-sec Yes, that seems to have done it. [08:26] schestowitz-TR yes [08:26] schestowitz-TR latest videos links work now [08:26] schestowitz-TR those were http [08:26] schestowitz-TR also the http urls in daily links [08:26] Techrights-sec It was hard to track down due to [08:26] Techrights-sec some associated rendering bugs in both Brave and Firefox. [08:26] Techrights-sec those seem to work too ● Feb 06 [09:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:47] Techrights-sec Brave does not provide a clean way to visit sites with self-signed certificates. [09:47] Techrights-sec It issues warnings and has the protocol in red strikethrough letters. If [09:47] Techrights-sec you choose the warnng icon it states flat out, but wrongly, that the connection [09:47] Techrights-sec is "not secure". [09:47] schestowitz-TR nothing "brace" about that. They push sacammy fakecoins/scamcoins, but won't trust sites which trust themsekves. [09:47] schestowitz-TR nothing "brave" about that. They push sacammy fakecoins/scamcoins, but won't trust sites which trust themsekves. [09:48] schestowitz-TR btw, are other links on the way [09:48] schestowitz-TR I have just recorded two videosfor about an hour [09:48] Techrights-sec yes, on the way still. ● Feb 06 [10:00] Techrights-sec yes, on the way still. Try now. [10:00] Techrights-sec router maintenace eta 30 min [10:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:31] schestowitz-TR today's daily links had breyer, which I guess is no accident [10:31] schestowitz-TR I've added a draft just now while video processes or progresses [10:32] Techrights-sec maintenacneemnce complete [10:32] Techrights-sec breyer is one of the only politicians addressing technology policies [10:32] Techrights-sec reda was really good but has moved on and, most unfortunately, seems to be [10:32] Techrights-sec increasingly disinformed/ misinformed via social control media [10:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:33] Techrights-sec She was on top of things while in office though. [10:33] Techrights-sec I hope that breyer is able not only to stay in office a while longer but to [10:33] Techrights-sec bring other polticians willing to take on technology policy matters and not [10:33] Techrights-sec lobbyist money [10:33] schestowitz-TR at the moment he is the oinly .de politician or MEP taking on the UPC head--on [10:33] schestowitz-TR but that might nchange [10:36] Techrights-sec I hope it changes, the economy and human rights combine to need such a change [10:39] schestowitz-TR energy prices high [10:39] schestowitz-TR food also [10:39] schestowitz-TR salaries the same [10:39] schestowitz-TR jobs reduced [10:39] schestowitz-TR inflation soaring, so you cannot buy things other than food and energy either [10:39] schestowitz-TR journalism stagnant [10:39] schestowitz-TR see daily links I put there [10:39] schestowitz-TR lotsm of paid-for SPAM disguised as journalism [10:39] schestowitz-TR IBM and tohers [10:39] schestowitz-TR "ssponsored by [subject oif article]" [10:39] schestowitz-TR even michael and fatima crossed to the other side [10:39] schestowitz-TR BTW, re bryer, I was making sure this ws the only manually-curated [10:39] schestowitz-TR iutem you had [10:39] schestowitz-TR as in the past it could be indicative of editing mistaker [10:40] Techrights-sec Food is expected to become quite expensive all around. Eventually, though [10:40] Techrights-sec the price will shoot through the roof as the mass destruction of arable land [10:40] Techrights-sec crosses a threshold. [10:40] Techrights-sec Ah. Thanks for checking. But yes there were few items, in fact just the one. [10:40] Techrights-sec Slow news + other activities. [10:40] schestowitz-TR ACK ● Feb 06 [11:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bs7zfy7xzt3k4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:21] Techrights-sec ack [11:24] Techrights-sec ack [11:24] Techrights-sec Also as of 20 years ago, empathy had diminished massively compated to the early 1 [11:24] Techrights-sec 990s. I would posit that the general empath levels have diminished further. [11:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:48] schestowitz-TR draft [11:48] Techrights-sec s/quire/quite/ [11:49] schestowitz-TR it is hard not to notice it [11:49] schestowitz-TR but in the past year we published like several book vaolumes, of very high [11:49] schestowitz-TR quality of research about EPO scandals [11:50] schestowitz-TR I'm not saying we will ever try to "sell" this [11:50] schestowitz-TR but... given the lack of "compettition" over such information online [11:50] schestowitz-TR I think such information will be accssed a lot for a decade to come [11:50] schestowitz-TR I'm going to catch up with patent news in a moment [11:54] schestowitz-TR gulagnoise is very very emotionally draining [11:54] schestowitz-TR spam and self-promotion [11:54] schestowitz-TR but... what else can be used? not much competition [11:54] schestowitz-TR 9to5 linus was added to gulagnoise [11:54] schestowitz-TR marius was delighted and thank me a lot [11:54] schestowitz-TR law firms and their sites rarely have rss feeds [11:54] schestowitz-TR so you mmight say, [11:54] schestowitz-TR where to find patent news [11:55] schestowitz-TR m [11:55] schestowitz-TR me: whaaaa? [11:55] schestowitz-TR news about patents? [11:55] schestowitz-TR no much thing anymore [11:55] schestowitz-TR just spam disguised as "news" [11:55] schestowitz-TR firm hires "partner" or associates" = "news" [11:58] Techrights-sec ack [11:58] Techrights-sec ack [11:58] schestowitz-TR rianne checked pihut and pimoroni [11:58] schestowitz-TR pi 400 not available in uk [11:59] schestowitz-TR france and germany ok [11:59] schestowitz-TR she left an email address in case some replinish t heir stocks here [11:59] schestowitz-TR 2022: when you want to buy something and the shop says, "no, we can';t sell" [11:59] schestowitz-TR "capitalism" at its finest... sweatshops ● Feb 06 [12:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:10] Techrights-sec sweatshops are just about everywhere these days [12:12] schestowitz-TR in the west it is referred to as modern-0age slavery, which they tell us is [12:12] schestowitz-TR just a myth and imposed laboiur (to keep root above head) is just some [12:12] schestowitz-TR "asian" issue; either way, various aspects of the system are failing [12:12] schestowitz-TR when old and frail people need to choose betwqeen eating and heating [12:12] schestowitz-TR all that technobaabble and bubble doesn';t mean jack to them [12:12] schestowitz-TR and their technofascistic "smart" phones did not enhance their lives [12:12] schestowitz-TR in any meaningful way [12:12] schestowitz-TR now at the shops they insist they need to learn to become cashiers [12:12] schestowitz-TR at age 80 [12:21] Techrights-sec that's happened here too [12:22] schestowitz-TR the year is 2060 [12:22] schestowitz-TR you want to eat? [12:22] schestowitz-TR learn how to grow the food [12:23] schestowitz-TR then bring it to the "cashier" [12:23] schestowitz-TR to process the crops [12:23] schestowitz-TR pay twice as much as 10 years earlier [12:23] schestowitz-TR be thankful you can eat [12:23] schestowitz-TR after all, covid-59 makes you thankful to just be alive [12:27] Techrights-sec Harrison was an over optimist: [12:27] Techrights-sec https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/473850.Make_Room_Make_Room_ [12:27] Techrights-sec https://www.wyzant.com/resources/answers/90829/a_lily_pad_is_growing_in_a_pond_and_it_doubles_in_size_every_day_after_30_days_it_covers_the_entire_pond_on_what_day_does_it_cover_half_pond [12:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison [12:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.wyzant.com | a lily pad is growing in a pond and it doubles in size every day. after 30 days it covers the entire pond. on what day does it cover half pond | Wyzant Ask An Expert [12:44] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 06 [13:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:30] schestowitz-TR close($log); looks so much better [13:30] schestowitz-TR I'll have a quick go at the file [13:30] schestowitz-TR headsup to avoid m simultaneous edits [13:30] schestowitz-TR (conmflicting ones) [13:30] Techrights-sec yes, it was some debugging material left over , I think I've tracked down [13:30] Techrights-sec and removed all artifacts of the testing phase. [13:38] Techrights-sec That last only opened a file but did not put anything in it. [13:38] Techrights-sec ok checking [13:38] schestowitz-TR pushed to git, may do another push shortlu [13:41] Techrights-sec the error from 05:47 has probably been addressed. [13:41] Techrights-sec maintenacnee ● Feb 06 [14:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:18] schestowitz-TR are you ok with the lkatest changes? [14:18] schestowitz-TR is it ok to push to git [14:18] schestowitz-TR ? [14:18] schestowitz-TR i left in tact almost all that you did [14:18] schestowitz-TR added a little on top of it [14:21] Techrights-sec Yes, though the one can be tweaked a little. Just moment. Ok pushed. [14:21] Techrights-sec I've commented out two unused modules but not removed the comments because [14:21] Techrights-sec the one is useful in debugging (in the test environment) and the other might [14:21] Techrights-sec be needed eventually. [14:21] Techrights-sec I'm not sure of the /right/ way to do FastCGI, but this way definitely has [14:21] Techrights-sec full privilege separation. [14:22] schestowitz-TR did you make the change in git, locally, or the live server? I would need to merg [14:22] schestowitz-TR e edits manually [14:23] Techrights-sec Git [14:23] Techrights-sec Git is designed for concurrent editing. [14:23] schestowitz-TR yes, I know, but in the past it just panicked and did fast forwards ands things [14:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:41] schestowitz-TR ok, after a lot of struggle [14:41] schestowitz-TR I think git stopped shouting at me [14:41] schestowitz-TR I merged the conflicting edits [14:45] schestowitz-TR ok, nothing in error log since 6am today (GMT) [14:45] schestowitz-TR the access logs show over 3k requests since we started last night [14:45] schestowitz-TR it does work over https but promoting such URLs will allow [14:45] schestowitz-TR browsers to shout at users, scaring them more than padlock BS [14:45] Techrights-sec excellent [14:45] Techrights-sec I presume indexers? [14:46] schestowitz-TR i ddi not look, but the error file not growing for hours is good news [14:46] schestowitz-TR *for 8 hours [14:48] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Feb 06 [15:53] Techrights-sec I think all the corner cases are covered now ● Feb 06 [16:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:07] schestowitz-TR top-level domain gemini.tr org now responds ok on 3 ports with / [16:07] schestowitz-TR gemini, htttp, https [16:07] schestowitz-TR added redirects [16:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:35] schestowitz-TR after tonight's shift I will be free till Friday [16:35] schestowitz-TR I really like this proxy/gateway [16:35] schestowitz-TR it's also a contigency or GETAWAY in case of server downtimes [16:35] Techrights-sec Great! [16:36] schestowitz old alias, pointing to gemini as aaa record: http://home.techrights.org [16:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights [16:58] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/series-trade-marks-are-bundle-of.html?showComment=1643884539582#c127131582717294680 [16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Series trade marks are a bundle of separate trade marks, Court of Appeal declares in Fox's latest Glee challenge - The IPKat [16:58] schestowitz " [16:58] schestowitz Appeal withdrawn (settlement reached): [16:58] schestowitz https://www.supremecourt.uk/news/appeal-withdrawn-twentieth-century-fox-film-corporation-v-comic-enterprises-limited.html [16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.supremecourt.uk | Appeal withdrawn: Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation v Comic Enterprises Limited - The Supreme Court [16:58] schestowitz " [16:59] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/neurim-v-mylan-illiad-was-shorter.html?showComment=1643740568018#c5161634681479973637 [16:59] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Neurim v. Mylan-- the Illiad was shorter - The IPKat [16:59] schestowitz " [16:59] schestowitz The issue is that divisionals can be filed at any point a patent is pending at the EPO. The EPO did introduce changes to limit the filings of divisionals and this was a welcome improvment. But that was reversed due lobbying by the patent world whose fees are paid through the filing of very expensive divisionals. Let's pause here and recognise that this patent will expire in 2022! So the patentee can define their invention over 18 years in as [16:59] schestowitz many divisionals as they choose to file. If we accept the principle that some patents should be challenged because they are bad for society then to remove all incentives, which have to be commercial, makes little sense if you can keep coming back for more. [16:59] schestowitz The solution is 1. the EPO has to speed up 2. divisionals should be limited in time and/or double patenting has to be more rigorously applied. The best option for double patenting is for courts to flex a little more around the Arrow injuctions. [16:59] schestowitz In this case the Arrow injunction could not apply as they were found to infringe a valid patent! My limited understanding is that the expert for Mylan had a bad day and, therefore, they have to do it all over again. ● Feb 06 [17:00] schestowitz I could be wrong but I think Mylan have not launched in the UK but Teva have. Teva were temporarily injuncted in Israel from launching this product due to a claim of an abuse of confidential information. https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/articles/0,7340,L-3736281,00.html. I assume that has all now been concluded. [17:00] schestowitz " [17:00] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.calcalistech.com | Teva Blocked From Launching Generic Version of Israeli Sleep Medicine Circadin - CTech [17:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Feb 06 [19:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tnxugezmmi87e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:27] *mrityunjai (~mrityunja@joseon-gvtpil.3m41.agt9.egs8p5.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [19:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:39] *mrityunjai has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 06 [20:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:17] Techrights-sec ack [20:17] Techrights-sec do we need a bot filter for the HTTP-Gemini proxy? [20:17] Techrights-sec ok [20:18] schestowitz-TR old alias, pointing to gemini as aaa record: http://home.techrights.org [20:18] schestowitz-TR no, not yet [20:18] schestowitz-TR just woke up btw [20:18] Techrights-sec ok [20:18] Techrights-sec sorry did not mean to make noise [20:37] Techrights-sec small adjustment pushed to Git [20:38] Techrights-sec ack [20:42] schestowitz sudo cp /home/gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/ && sudo systemctl restart gemini-proxy.service ● Feb 06 [21:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jvt9tzvngy35u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:33] activelow (more) => gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/ [21:33] activelow SSL error 326 [21:33] activelow Error: SSL error [21:33] activelow [request failed] at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/ [21:34] schestowitz-TR which client? [21:34] schestowitz-TR and since when? [21:38] activelow cgmnlm; with both torsocks and without. other gemini sites work, and techrights was ok some weeks ago too. [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:39] schestowitz-TR maybe the handshake protocol is too new [21:39] schestowitz-TR we upgraded to latest debian [21:39] activelow currently, it is gemini://gemini.techrights.org affected only, with cgmnlm, other sites work [21:42] schestowitz-TR telescrope, kristall, amfora etc. all work [21:42] schestowitz-TR lagrange also [21:42] schestowitz-TR let me check moonlander [21:43] schestowitz-TR I noticed one proxy host was failing [21:43] schestowitz-TR I think incompatible new protocol or version [21:43] schestowitz-TR try to updatre your client maybe? [21:43] schestowitz-TR I take your report seriously and investigate now [21:44] schestowitz-TR moonlander works OK also [21:44] schestowitz-TR and most people access it OK [21:44] schestowitz-TR 20k requests since midnight today [21:45] schestowitz-TR ok, so what I can suggest is, make sure you lose the latest version of your software [21:45] schestowitz-TR seems like one of those cases where debian's new ciphers or version specs cause issues [21:46] schestowitz-TR today I added https to the proxy [21:46] schestowitz-TR and falkon could not handle the algorithm [21:46] schestowitz sudo openssl dhparam -out /etc/nginx/dhparam.pem 4096 [21:46] schestowitz Generating DH parameters, 4096 bit long safe prime, generator 2 [21:46] schestowitz This is going to take a long time [21:46] schestowitz took almost 10 minutes! ● Feb 06 [22:04] activelow only surprised a protocol update could break my favorite gemini client; not high priority otherwise [22:05] activelow didn't update libressl for a while too, although it would be the first incident to break SSL in any application with any server [22:17] schestowitz interesting... [22:17] schestowitz yes, older systems fail a lot with this cert mill [22:17] schestowitz sadlyt [22:21] activelow don't think it's cert related, except if their internal structure changed, which i doubt [22:22] activelow currently thinking about something else, which are GCC, tinycc, standards compliance, and vendor-locks [22:23] activelow as if my mood hasn't been bad enough already, because those compilers were OK, too linux kernel was... up until some corrupt entities decided to "improve" upon that [22:24] activelow the fun part of this is, since gcc-4.8 those responsible knee-jerked themselves, unpreceeded in the history in this project [22:24] activelow becaues, tcc could cleanly bootstrap gcc, yet can't anymore since when some decisions were made by GNU/GCC or whoever it was [22:25] activelow same with linux kernel, it could be compiled with tcc, up until recently situation escalated when linux kernel decided this [22:26] activelow #if gcc #elif clang #else #error #endif... now they say i would be "complaining" and should reimplement some clusterfuck of a decade of millions of man-hours of work to feed any sane compiler with [22:27] activelow THIS is what some "red hat" affiliates argued, and of cause i had no clue of what i was talking about [22:27] activelow after weeks of working and endless nightshifts, for exactly this amount of income: 0 [22:31] activelow it's remarkable, because GNU guix project was the last to seriously consider GCC bootstrapping, little later tinycc showcased a clean procedure, and nowadays anyone had to disassemble dozens of Megs of binary to review GCC bootstrapping alone [22:32] activelow of cause, this isn't a problem for them, since they conquered the Olymp of free software, where this is a non-issue for the higher intellect of theirs, which escapes mine ● Feb 06 [23:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [23:04] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:17] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:40] schestowitz-TR sudo cp /home/gemini/bin/Gemini-Proxy/gemini-proxy.pl /usr/local/bin/ && sudo sy [23:40] schestowitz-TR stemctl restart gemini-proxy.service [23:40] schestowitz-TR I pushed quite a few minor changes through git [23:40] schestowitz-TR nginx served 5k pages [23:40] schestowitz-TR I did not study the nature of these, it does not matter much [23:40] schestowitz-TR home.techrights.org [23:40] schestowitz-TR yes, just a gateway, but also alternative [23:40] schestowitz-TR though rss feeds are vastly better [23:45] schestowitz I've only just noticed that the links at bottom of http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi go to the wrong pages, based on traversal/path interpretation issue [23:45] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gemini.techrights.org | Gemini Proxy for Techrights [23:54] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)