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[03:45]	schestowitz-TR2	I wasn't always so wrinkled :-) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=_BfxMH1GEpU
[03:45]	schestowitz-TR2	I am going to post a link or list of links to invidious instances
[03:45]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invidious.snopyta.org | Ramble About Software Patents and Their Harms - Part 3 - Invidious
[03:45]	schestowitz-TR2	we ought to encourage their use
● Mar 06
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	I have not looked at Invidious before.  Odysee needs an account to be useful
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	and the javascript burden there is egregious.  The account is needed because
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	the signal to noise ratio is so poor that you have to spend a /very/ long time
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	blocking accounts.  There is really good material in Odysee but it is otherwise
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	completely drowned out in utter garbage and even disinformation and 
[04:02]	Techrights-sec	propaganda style disinformation.  
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	I am going to post a link or list of links to invidious instances
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	we ought to encourage their use
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	btw, earlier today I was going to type something herere
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	but decided not to
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	it was not important, I don't remember what it was anymore
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	but I did not want to oiverwhelm you upon wake-up
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	as you can see, I'm posting more than usual this weekend
[04:03]	schestowitz-TR2	as a result of not wasting time on "social" crap
[04:09]	Techrights-sec	Yeah there's not much of a buffer, about 24 lines or so.
[04:09]	Techrights-sec	:(
[04:09]	Techrights-sec	Their web skills are awful and that is compounded by their abuse of javascript
[04:09]	Techrights-sec	for even the smallest thing.  
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	i am going to try odysee at random
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	see how laughable it gets
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	i see youtube style clickbait-oiptimised front page
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	sex, putin, cults like musk, cover photos designed to get clicks
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	btw i did saome testing of ipfs
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	it still works, but for large files like bulletins we get capped a bit by network capacity
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	I did nnot click anything in odysee
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	it's like twitter with mutimedia as medium
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	annd has no items of mental iinput
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	heck, they promote some thing where a women sells jarred farts
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	did not click
[04:09]	schestowitz-TR2	this is stuff they promte
[04:13]	Techrights-sec	Like I wrote, they have a lot of garbage.  If Invidious is much better, then
[04:13]	Techrights-sec	maybe it is worth investigating.
[04:13]	Techrights-sec	 Oh.  Then it;s filtered garbage anyway.
[04:13]	Techrights-sec	ack
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	the way I understand it, invidious is just a relay for gulagtube and can also prox the 
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	traffic
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	but... for some instances you ghave them curate promotes videos
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	based on some theme
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	e.g. anime for japanese
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	soime nl instance, finnish instance, tech ones
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	so you can cut through the crap like "recommended
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	and it nevere ever plays any ads
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	when we do workouts we use yewtu.be
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	so the  general idea is, let's try to get more people to use it
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	when gulag gets angry it'll try to block it
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	but it'll be hard to block the "bad" or "unwanted" ones
[04:13]	schestowitz-TR2	without cutting off alksso what gulag sees as "lkegit"
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[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	do not worry if I am  too harsh on gulag
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	IU will finish thes erants soon
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	some things do need to be said
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	btw, I am not sure
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	if what I wanted help from you earlier
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	was with zoe videos
[04:51]	schestowitz-TR2	I found something and did it myself at the end
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	but maybe it was another task-like thing I had in my head
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	it doesn't matter
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	as the saying goes
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	if it was really important, I'd have written it down
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	you shall see there is a moral here
[04:52]	schestowitz-TR2	to do with founders
[04:52]	Techrights-sec	I'm not familiar with many of the new names.
[04:59]	schestowitz-TR2	url for businesses schools making sociopaths (mba)?
[04:59]	schestowitz-TR2	see draft
[04:59]	Techrights-sec	https://dealbreaker.com/2017/05/business-schools-might-have-tiny-little-psychopath-problem
[04:59]	Techrights-sec	https://www.economist.com/whichmba/better-class-psychopath
[04:59]	Techrights-sec	There is also probably an inverse relation between the number of MBAs on the
[04:59]	Techrights-sec	payroll and the viability of a business, especially a startup.
[04:59]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Business Schools Might Have A Tiny Little Psychopath Problem - Dealbreaker
[04:59]	Techrights-sec	https://hbr.org/2004/10/executive-psychopaths
[04:59]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A better class of psychopath | Which MBA? | The Economist
[04:59]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hbr.org | Executive Psychopaths
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[05:04]	Techrights-sec	There was not much written about the displacement of Google's founders.
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	RMS and eventually Linus must pass on the reins and assume an advisory role
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	if only to ensure a smooth transition and a continuation of the values they
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	founded their respective projects on.  Both waited a bit too long and got 
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	sidelined instead.  Both can recover (AFAIK) but would have to expend effort.
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	RMS can advise now, I hope the FSF and GNU are on good footing.  
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	Linux though is in a harder spot with so many microsofters now in high places
[05:04]	Techrights-sec	A purge is needed there.   
[05:08]	schestowitz-TR2	published, you can try to find typos in there, esp. the quoted bits
[05:38]	schestowitz	D<"
[05:38]	schestowitz	I got a link via e mail today to download my data I have spent the hours since trying to
[05:38]	schestowitz	decode the json file and view it in a readable form I have tried various online methods
[05:38]	schestowitz	of doing this It just crashes firefox Can you someone please just explain how one goes
[05:38]	schestowitz	about viewing this data in a readable form, thanks
[05:38]	schestowitz	"
[05:38]	schestowitz	https://pod.diaspora.software/posts/4984491
[05:38]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pod.diaspora.software | An update on the future of JoinDiaspora.com
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[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	I have just managed to expore the full joindiapora account of tuxmachinmnes
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	should i 
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	1) import this to another pod
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	2) if so, whiich one?
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	1) depends
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	It'd be rather good, in some ways, for TM to maintain a presence.
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	2) no idea which pod,
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	I've not followed Diaspora for a long time and no longer have a good overview.
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	Can mastodon.technology be the 'home base' of TM?
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	I am checking the list
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	will sask you before I do anything
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	to recap, that instance then exports to tumblr, twitter, and from twitter 
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	it gets picked up by mastodon.technology
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	asside from irc
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	manstodom does not contain the full histopry of posts
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and also it does not export like diaspora can
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	the most active users are said to be in diapora-fr.org
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR2	diasp.org is dsecond
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	ack
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	Then a Diaspora pod would be a better choice for the epicenter.
[12:09]	Techrights-sec	Is the -fr a geographical or linguistic distinction?  
[12:11]	schestowitz-TR2	to me, what's important is logevity, uptime, and services supported
[12:11]	schestowitz-TR2	i am checking
[12:11]	schestowitz-TR2	it's an important decision that is hard to change later
[12:11]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe I can even link it to wordpress.com
[12:11]	schestowitz-TR2	unlike joindiapora
[12:12]	schestowitz	https://the-federation.info/diaspora
[12:12]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-the-federation.info | the federation - a statistics hub
[12:12]	schestowitz	 scroll down a bit
[12:12]	schestowitz-TR2	diasp.eu is based in .de but wuld imply tuxmachines is an eu thing
[12:13]	schestowitz-TR2	it supports 3 services, most support just 1 or 2
[12:18]	Techrights-sec	ack
[12:18]	Techrights-sec	the list says nothing about intended userbase for the nodes.
[12:18]	Techrights-sec	Is there a difference for any of them?
[12:21]	Techrights-sec	How to tell the quality of the admins?
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	https://the-federation.info/diaspora
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	scroll down a bit
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	no hurry, let me know what you think
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	I asses # of users 65 months vs  month
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	it tells you which ones are dying fast
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	and might shut down next
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	pluspora I think plans to shut down too
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	buit the platform is also used as cross-dservice and cross-pod firehose
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	the instances have local and non-local
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	some have some extra theming
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	\
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	some have lousy admins
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	I am tryint to assess user (active) retention
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	by compsrins 6m months to 1 month
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	that tells you something about ttl
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	for the pod in general
[12:22]	schestowitz-TR2	notice some are "No" for opensignups
[12:30]	schestowitz	https://pod.tchncs.de/
[12:30]	schestowitz	"
[12:30]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pod.tchncs.de | tchncs*
[12:30]	schestowitz	Discontinuation Warning
[12:30]	schestowitz	This has been the first public service of tchncs.de, but it's time to move on. As development and community adoption slowed down significantly over the years, your admin considers to shut down this services in June, 2022.
[12:30]	schestowitz	"
[12:35]	schestowitz	https://diaspora.psyco.fr/users/sign_up  I don't like the domain name, what do you think?
[12:35]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-diaspora.psyco.fr | diaspora*
[12:35]	schestowitz	and support for the account would likely not be in English
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[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	some have not even updated to the latest version of diapora
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	which mifght mean neglect by admin
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	pluspora admin died
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	and the pod was not up to date
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	diasp.eu is up to date, open, seems to have good user retention
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	let me try to open an account to see if I can, at all, imporrt to it
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	I can delete it afterwards
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	they charge 11 euros per year
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	and ask for card details
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	while seemingly fair
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	I don;'t give card numbers
[12:36]	schestowitz-TR2	not for testing, either
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	11 eurosx ~250 active users might be enough to cover iunfra
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	but...
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	I also know nothing about the admin
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	Diaspora Europe wants 11 euros a year
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	Diaspora Germany wants 1 a month
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	diaspora france lacks support for tumbler export
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	https://pod.tchncs.de/
[12:37]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pod.tchncs.de | tchncs*
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	"
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	pod.tchncs.de | tchncs*
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	Discontinuation Warning
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	This has been the first public service of tchncs.de, but it's time to move on. As development and community adoption slo
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	wed down significantly over the years, your admin considers to shut down this services in June, 2022.
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	part of a trend lately
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	dfeels like no matter what we choosse, it won't last too long..
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	lol!  
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	some of these pods I look at have fewer TOTAL posts than what the Linux account would impoirt
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	so it would bloat upm their DB
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	https://diaspora.psyco.fr/users/sign_up  I don't like the domain name, what do you think?
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	diaspora.psyco.fr | diaspora*
[12:37]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-diaspora.psyco.fr | diaspora*
[12:37]	schestowitz-TR2	and support for the account would likely not be in English
[12:37]	Techrights-sec	I noticed
[12:41]	Techrights-sec	Yes, I think they would (or at least many would) grumble about English
[12:42]	schestowitz-TR2	well, the UI is in English
[12:42]	schestowitz-TR2	I am looking into it atm
[12:42]	schestowitz-TR2	as the number of active users seems to be improviing
[12:42]	schestowitz-TR2	i am willing to pay, but not with card
[12:48]	schestowitz	https://diaspora.psyco.fr/help/account_and_data_management
[12:48]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-diaspora.psyco.fr | Help
[12:48]	schestowitz	"Version 0.7.0.0 of diaspora* provides the first stage of account migration: you can now export all your data from the Account section of the user settings. Keep your data safely! In a future release you will be able to migrate your whole account, including posts and contacts, to another pod."
[12:48]	schestowitz	LOL!
[12:48]	schestowitz	So they let you export
[12:49]	schestowitz	but no import support
[12:49]	schestowitz	so what is the point?
[12:49]	schestowitz	I need to wait, I guess
[12:50]	schestowitz	this pod has a total of 99087 posts
[12:50]	schestowitz	that's about as many as "Linux" (TM) has
[12:50]	schestowitz	and schestowitz might be about 600,000
[12:51]	schestowitz	can you imagine the reaction is I attempted to import?
[12:51]	Techrights-sec	So are there any limits on import?
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	I asked last month (the code dev team) about import contraints
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	they said they would sort it out
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	for now I guess I have a parked account
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	while import is not even supported... or something
[12:55]	schestowitz	https://discourse.diasporafoundation.org/t/unique-user-reference-changing-pods-backup/4441
[12:55]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-discourse.diasporafoundation.org | Unique user reference, changing pods, backup - Development - diaspora* Discourse
[12:56]	Techrights-sec	That's one of the reasons for asking.  I'm not sure of the back end but if it is
[12:56]	Techrights-sec	not efficient in storing the posts, the import might cause a noticeable load 
[12:56]	Techrights-sec	and take time.  
[12:56]	schestowitz-TR2	or, yet worse, damage the site (pod)
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	the export of linux, exc. media, is 38mb of gz'ed file
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	i can imagine schestowitz wouyld be about 300MB at most
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	I wonder, given that many are in the same situation
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	should I now do a video about this?
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[13:00]	Techrights-sec	Not sure, do you have some short-listed English language pods with uptodate
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	software and reliable admins?  It would have to be clear that there are other 
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	good pods out there, too.
[13:00]	Techrights-sec	not just the ones on the shortlist. 
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	just explainng the situation for what it is can help
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	as I saw some baffled users
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	asking what to do with the data they have exported
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	I have some things to say about the direction of the project too
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	like the shutdowns
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	but it won't be so flattering to the hard-working devs
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR2	for that reason alone I prefere to keep silent for now
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	mastodon toook out much of the wind from diaspor'a sails, I think
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	the official site for The Federation, which is looking for a new maintainer, sya
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	that acroos ALL platforms there are 6000 million posts
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	pleroma now has over 1000 nodes
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	diaspora 171
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	total posts 7.3 million
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	almost 10% of them are mine
[13:14]	schestowitz-TR2	linux and glynmoody also have lots
[13:15]	Techrights-sec	Yes, best not to point out that some are in a hard spot.  
[13:15]	Techrights-sec	So maybe best to skip a video on the topic for now.  I'm sure there will be some
[13:15]	Techrights-sec	obvious things to say pubicly once a pod has been selected and an agreement 
[13:15]	Techrights-sec	reached.
[13:23]	psydroid2	I think there could/should be a tuxmachines Diaspora instance if you really want to maintain a presence on Diaspora
[13:23]	psydroid2	but I don't think it's worth it in terms of resources and maintenance
[13:26]	psydroid2	maybe Diaspora isn't even the best implementation of such a social network anymore
[13:27]	psydroid2	I think what is important is the data and the options to connect to people, but the exact codebase doesn't need to be preserved
[13:27]	psydroid2	especially if it it's far from optimal
[13:27]	psydroid2	(I'm not familiar with the codebase)
[13:45]	schestowitz-TR2	i have 
[13:45]	schestowitz-TR2	1) left a message in diapora to devs (positive) assuring another user (Gary
[13:45]	schestowitz-TR2	2) come to realise import will take a long time
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	3) started connectinmg the new account to external services
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	seems tumblr already broke compat back in november
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	i did not evben notce
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	500 internal server error
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	such is the nature of working on projects that rely on THIRD-PARTy 'clown;
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	APIs 
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	which are of course a moving target
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	you do not get to use "the older versions" of things
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	it's like site ToS
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	you must agree
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	lol wordpress.com compatibility is still broken
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	I think unless you connected it as a servic some time prior to 20917 it could work
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	but not after that
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	fb compat was removed altogether
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	so I now assume I won't be able to connectd @schestowitz account
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	to wordpress.com either
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	only "twitter"
[13:46]	schestowitz-TR2	this lessens the appeal
[13:46]	Techrights-sec	ack
[13:46]	Techrights-sec	:( changing APIs are no good, as are proprietary APIs
[13:46]	Techrights-sec	Walled gardens actively avoid and prevent interoperability,
[13:46]	Techrights-sec	ack
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid2: it would be hard
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	for starters
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	diaspora has export
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	which isn't even reliable
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	and no import
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	so the data cannot travel with you... yet
[13:47]	schestowitz-TR2	and the underlying complexity is horrendous, I've messed around with the code since a decade back
[13:53]	psydroid2	I've exported the little data I had in my account, but even the data file in JSON looks complex
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	ok, so I have connected this new account to birdsite and so from that it'll cross over to mastodon as before
[13:53]	psydroid2	I don't know why all of that is in there
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	no code changes are needed
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	just some configs in kde
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	to keep the window bolted to the right place
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	what was lost: all followers in diaspora
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	though they claim they might be able to port them over in the futurr
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	and access to tumblr was already lost last year
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	tumbler seems to be a toally dead zone
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR2	iirc, wordpress/automattic took over it
[13:54]	Techrights-sec	maintenace would be a headache and lots of javascript
[13:54]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid2: some british photographer, gary, said the same
[13:54]	schestowitz-TR2	when he attempted to open his file yesterday
● Mar 06
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	ok, so the new instance has some of the very same bugs as the old one
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	otho, tuxmachines in manstodon and in twitter are workking again 
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[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	as does the zero-folloeers account in diaspora
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	tumblr and wordpress killed off compat with diaspora
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	just like facebook had done ages earlier
[14:07]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/
[14:07]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights
[14:07]	schestowitz	https://mastodon.technology/@tuxmachines
[14:07]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Tux Machines (@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology) - Mastodon for Tech Folks
[14:18]	Techrights-sec	" Joined Apr 2017 "
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	I have just pushed some changed to git
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	3 services restroed, abeit one out of 1 is without followers
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	so locally orphaned
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	tumblr alrweady died silently last year
[14:48]	Techrights-sec	looking
[14:48]	Techrights-sec	ack
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	the internet will be around for the coming decade
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	in spite of putler
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	but I doubt any of the social control media things
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	will still be a think
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	about 5 years ago I was trying to get a picture of what was happening
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	as it seemed htts as a whole was waning
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	because of "apps" and such
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	browsers in 2020: "apps" i.e. JS
[14:50]	schestowitz-TR2	not www/html , just trnasport layrr for junk
[14:51]	Techrights-sec	One thing which could make the social control media drag on and on is the    
[14:51]	Techrights-sec	utility that major interest find in its ability to manipulate popular opinion.
[14:51]	Techrights-sec	It can be kept (and probably is kept) afloat artifically like M$ has been, but
[14:51]	Techrights-sec	with money and influence only not the cult-like aspects which M$ rides on too.
[14:56]	schestowitz-TR2	gemini now at 2204 capsules
[14:56]	schestowitz-TR2	are you still working on code for techrights gemini xml?
[14:56]	schestowitz-TR2	I think it was last updated (the xml file) about 4 days ago
[14:56]	schestowitz-TR2	if you have not yet startd aggregator for existing gemini feeds, maybe I can have a go?
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[15:24]	Techrights-sec	I've put the aggregator on pause because of some trouble reading feeds.  
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	The method used is not quite right and results in, for some obscure reason,
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	data which is not accepted as XML.  By all means have a try at it.    
[15:24]	Techrights-sec	Strange that TR's own feed has not updated.  
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	what code makes techrights xml file??
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	I can see it is updated now
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	I think it has not yet been pushed to git
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	there are double slashes in url, so probably an easy thing to amend
[15:29]	Techrights-sec	gemini-make-feed.pl it's in cron via a wrapper script but the cron part fails
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	I have just saved the xml to a file, then opoended it okk
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	in librewolf
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	so I assume this is alreeady working mostly ok
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	should we link to it from the front page under "Feeds"?
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	in amfora, telescope, lagrange and kristall the double slash after year does not cause problems opening the 
[15:34]	schestowitz-TR2	pages, but I think it might split requests for the pages into two
[15:35]	Techrights-sec	gemini-make-feed-wrapper.sh
[15:35]	Techrights-sec	adding to Git
[15:35]	Techrights-sec	pushed 
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR2	looking at the wrapped
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR2	the perl part is harder for me to digest ;-)
[15:37]	schestowitz-TR2	because PL isn't a thing I am fluent in at all
[15:37]	Techrights-sec	not until the cron job is working properly also the double slash can be fixed
[15:37]	Techrights-sec	Hopefully the perl is clear (enough) to muddle through.
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR2	you have worked on programs in an area that few explored before, so there are 
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR2	good prospects of others adopting it when they look for ways to build and 
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR2	maintain their capsules
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR2	some is generalisable
[15:39]	schestowitz-TR2	but maybe not enoiugh to have a fancy name and "marketing"
[15:41]	schestowitz	roy@vonick:~/Git$ find | grep -v .git  | wc -l
[15:41]	schestowitz	130
[15:47]	schestowitz	"Still doesn't make this "racism" at worst it is regulatory risk aversion from IBM - your error is expecting that corporations will operate under a moral framework (be it racist or otherwise) corporations are not moral entities - they exist to make a profit and nothing else."
[15:48]	schestowitz	https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1346242767696695308?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1346242767696695308:0:0:0:1346366190242500623
[15:48]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat ... | Minds
[15:51]	schestowitz	this is good so far: https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1346608083308122115
[15:51]		-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Future of Censorship | Minds
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	sorry if I bother a bit, not intended
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	but it seems exciting that there's this gradual 'diaspora' away
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	from html and maybe away froim JS too
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	even  if it starts mostly with geeks
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	gulagtube, being social control media to,
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	and tighting the screws in ways that annoy the users,
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	might also give way
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	eventuaklly I hope people will put down the 'phone'
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	and "apps" will be abandoned along
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	tith their notificatgions "addiction" (not the best term)
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	the fsf missed the baot several times
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	but rms will bring up gemini 
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	there are more issues now than just software freedom and 
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	software patents
[15:53]	schestowitz-TR2	some of these were articulated by "diogital vegan"
[15:53]	Techrights-sec	double slash fix pushed
● Mar 06
[16:05]	Techrights-sec	ack
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	 this is good so far: https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1346608083308122115
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	this is equally applicable to twitter, FB, etc.
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	still watching it
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	he goes off the deep end a lot
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	and not good to associate with
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	but having said that, his commentary on sociul control media
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	has long been correcte
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	and he is self-hosting in his own site
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	even the videos
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