●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 06, 2022 ●● ● May 06 [00:11] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [00:11] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@m6c5vsyup5ane.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:19] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 06 [01:05] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:06] *activelow (~activelow@sf2k3tzt9a34c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 06 [06:57] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 06 [07:12] schestowitz-TR today I start the links in the middle [07:12] schestowitz-TR glad to see CN saying "social control media" in a headline ;- [07:12] schestowitz-TR ;-) [07:13] schestowitz-TR *SN [07:15] schestowitz-TR reading the comments now, they seem decent [07:31] Techrights-sec excellent [07:31] Techrights-sec openwashing caught on too [07:32] schestowitz-TR openwashing caught on too [07:32] Techrights-sec yes though the act of openwashing does not get called out enough [07:33] schestowitz-TR I joked in IRC about Microsoft using 1995 abandonware for openwashing in PROPRIETARY shithub [07:33] schestowitz-TR as the media is dead noboddy in "the media" called them out on it [07:38] Techrights-sec M$ dumps abandoned code for *tiny* *irrelevant* programs and calls it supporting [07:38] Techrights-sec Open Source or as the microsofters write it, open-source [07:40] schestowitz-TR thenthe MSFT-sponsored "media" claps claps cmaps [07:40] schestowitz-TR looks lik Wall Street is having some reality checks [07:40] schestowitz-TR Lyft and Uber included [07:40] schestowitz-TR Many people with high-risk investment are going to lose a lot of money [07:47] Techrights-sec Uber and Lyft are scams but only on the surface, the main purpose looks to [07:47] Techrights-sec be to knock whatremains of the bottom out of the labor market. There are now [07:47] Techrights-sec tons of shit jobs with shit pay and part of the reason for the increase in [07:47] Techrights-sec both is because of Uber, Lyft, and the other gig-oriented phone apps. [07:47] Techrights-sec So anyone putting money into gig-oriented companies like Uber and Lyft are not [07:47] Techrights-sec investing but gambling and the house always wins and the house, in that case, [07:47] Techrights-sec uses some of its take to further attack the very concept of employment [07:48] schestowitz-TR ebay barely brings any sales anymore [07:48] schestowitz-TR I think it might work for very few "large sellers" who know how to "game" the system [07:48] schestowitz-TR maybe similar to gulagtube after some changes [07:49] Techrights-sec There are services in town here, which I won't patronize, where not only [07:49] Techrights-sec are the workers given zero-hour contracts but also have to hire both the [07:49] Techrights-sec space they use for work and the tools and equipment needed for said work. :( [07:51] schestowitz-TR rianne and I spoke about car businesses that merely rent their cars [07:51] schestowitz-TR that was yesterday afternoon [07:51] schestowitz-TR I told her this industry sickens me and even our gym started merely renting its [07:51] schestowitz-TR equipmetn [07:51] schestowitz-TR "as a service" [07:51] schestowitz-TR plus the maintenance, that's the service... [07:51] schestowitz-TR IIRC, based on the video I saw after the Ukraine war had erupted [07:51] schestowitz-TR most arirlines do not even own their planees [07:51] schestowitz-TR they rent them [07:52] Techrights-sec youtube does seem to be either on the way out or else in line for some very [07:52] Techrights-sec major changes, beyond the ad spamming which has been recently inflicted on it [07:52] Techrights-sec yep that's the kind of problm mentioned above [07:52] Techrights-sec 2014 or 2022? [07:52] Techrights-sec THe air travel industry needs a complete makeover including scrapping of most [07:52] Techrights-sec of the existing fleet [07:53] Techrights-sec https://youtu.be/tKodtNFpzBA [07:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=tKodtNFpzBA [07:53] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidious.osi.kr | The Machine that goes Ping - Invidious [07:57] schestowitz-TR heh, some classic [07:57] schestowitz-TR you could say it is virtual ownership [07:57] schestowitz-TR now it is "as a service" [07:57] schestowitz-TR "pay as you go" [07:57] schestowitz-TR many now 'buy' their 'smart' 'phone' as a "plan" or "installman" [07:57] schestowitz-TR spreading the fees [07:57] schestowitz-TR so a lot of companies that "sell" things are basically links banks [07:57] schestowitz-TR giving small loans [07:57] schestowitz-TR ICBM included. for mainframes [07:57] schestowitz-TR their clients are like bank clients [07:57] schestowitz-TR paying monthly fees [07:57] schestowitz-TR not sure what you meant by 2014 or 2022 ● May 06 [08:04] Techrights-sec the attack on Ukraine [08:04] Techrights-sec the propaganda part ofthe war started considerably earlier but the [08:04] Techrights-sec military moved in during 2014 and the EU sat on its hands [08:05] schestowitz-TR For 4 years there was also a seating US Lukanshnko [08:25] schestowitz-TR I've just noticed that in today's links, with "automated" part added, something in the format [08:25] schestowitz-TR change a little [08:25] schestowitz-TR and some sed 'regex' would not catch what it did before [08:25] schestowitz-TR can the change be undone? [08:26] Techrights-sec a
was added. It can be removed [08:28] schestowitz-TR maybe tidy then changes the structure of things [08:28] schestowitz-TR a little bit [08:28] schestowitz-TR I've compared two files [08:28] schestowitz-TR there are not empty

then [08:50] Techrights-sec or else invest in xmlstarlet [08:53] schestowitz-TR yeah, I just wondered what had changed [08:53] schestowitz-TR a lot of the things there should really be commented out as they are [08:53] schestowitz-TR for social control media and just add i/o overhead [08:53] schestowitz-TR it's designed luke a thick layer of duct tape [08:53] schestowitz-TR not even designed [08:58] Techrights-sec "a week of coding will save an hour of planning" [08:58] Techrights-sec try git, might need some tuning on your end ● May 06 [10:21] schestowitz-TR bbiab exercise [10:21] Techrights-sec ack [10:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 06 [11:46] schestowitz-TR I've push some changes [11:46] schestowitz-TR The latter change, I think, can save me about 30 secs per day and reduce chances of human [11:46] schestowitz-TR error [11:46] schestowitz-TR 30 secsx30 days = ~ 15 mins times 12 months = 3 hours [11:46] schestowitz-TR I wish I had done this earlier [11:46] schestowitz-TR I told rianne, the main question is, will this process lastg years? [11:46] schestowitz-TR if I had known it would, I could save a ton of time [11:47] schestowitz-TR next thurs have gulag "Meet", I will record it [11:47] Techrights-sec it pays to periodically refactor and to aim one step ahead [11:47] Techrights-sec checking git ... [11:51] schestowitz-TR LOL, Ubuntu LoCo Council has begun deleting the spam or restored from backup [11:52] schestowitz-TR or both [11:52] schestowitz-TR today while shaving I watched some kde neon interviews with jriddell [11:52] schestowitz-TR who was aacked by Shutjtleworth [11:52] schestowitz-TR beccause I use his distro [11:52] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu is "opportunist" feeding off Debian [11:52] schestowitz-TR Daniel P sent me an email [11:52] schestowitz-TR he will be speaking in a UN event this summer ● May 06 [12:04] Techrights-sec ack [12:04] Techrights-sec very good, do you know in advance the topic he will present to the UN? [12:05] schestowitz-TR I would have to open thunderbird (massive strain on swap) to check [12:17] Techrights-sec ack [12:38] schestowitz-TR today I have some spare time in the sense that I can sense no urgency [12:38] schestowitz-TR so I will try to tidy up some scripts [12:38] schestowitz-TR I've also just checked to ensure that the 'expired' SSD, based on mtime, [12:38] schestowitz-TR does not have something I fear losing [12:38] schestowitz-TR in case it completely breaks down [12:38] schestowitz-TR I did the same with 'ted' in 2020 [12:38] schestowitz-TR this one can be dedeemed by a new drive, but I want to get my money's worth off of it [12:38] Techrights-sec ack [12:38] schestowitz-TR it does a lot of i/o in video processing [12:38] schestowitz-TR so maybe it's a good idea to separate that machine from sensitive data [12:39] schestowitz-TR gemini or Planet Gemini has a new section in it [12:39] schestowitz-TR I want to improve a few things here and there [12:39] schestowitz-TR I use that a lot [12:39] schestowitz-TR searching workpress for "gemini://" I get 522 past posts [12:39] schestowitz-TR some of them have over a dozen links [12:39] schestowitz-TR I'd have to run an sql query on wrdps.posts (not revisions) to know the total [12:40] Techrights-sec what still needed is general support with a proper gemini client packaged [12:40] Techrights-sec for debian [12:41] schestowitz-TR Michel packaged one for Fedora (Lagrange), days ago he packaged something for Ubuntu and said [12:41] schestowitz-TR he would do Debian next [12:41] schestowitz-TR Give it time, give them user [12:41] schestowitz-TR the users themselves would sooner or later either package that themselves or ask [12:41] schestowitz-TR someone to [12:41] schestowitz-TR Fedora is in a tough place [12:46] Techrights-sec fedora is mostly IBM staff and the rest only those willing to toe the IBM [12:46] Techrights-sec line [12:46] Techrights-sec if I understand the Fedora situation. I don't follow it much [12:48] schestowitz-TR Yes, me saying this rep;eatedly has not helped the project, but it is true and I'd like [12:48] schestowitz-TR to see those same volunteers putting the same effort into Arch, Gentoo, Neon etc. [12:48] schestowitz-TR Fedora is ahead of the surve in some regard, but I think it's mostly a toy [12:48] schestowitz-TR for IBM to get bug reports before pushing stuff to their crown jewels ● May 06 [13:04] Techrights-sec yes it looks like a development testbed for RHEL and any deviation from [13:04] Techrights-sec that goal is squelched [13:08] schestowitz-TR this longstanding perception has meant Fedora has not many forks or derivs [13:08] schestowitz-TR but I think there are technical reasons for that too [13:08] schestowitz-TR GNU/Linux is doing OK, I feel a lot more "at home" now with bleeding edge [13:08] schestowitz-TR KDE [13:08] schestowitz-TR but kde neon is not what I would use for a mission-critical system so to speak [13:08] schestowitz-TR vonick is still my main machine, but the data on it I regard as transient [13:08] schestowitz-TR even the text files I edit on there are edited over ssh [13:08] schestowitz-TR I love this approach a great deal as it means that unless two machines are [13:08] schestowitz-TR down at the same time your work is quite safe [13:08] schestowitz-TR it's the master/slave approach, but we cannot say this anymore [13:08] schestowitz-TR the main reason I bought bubi was, thunderbird is big and I don't trust a rotting [13:08] schestowitz-TR drive with my mail boxes [13:08] schestowitz-TR vlc on kde neon causes issues, including (I suspect) severe memory leaks [13:33] Techrights-sec ack [13:56] Techrights-sec I tried ordering the book "Digital Vegan" via a bookshop in the capitol [13:56] Techrights-sec but they were not able to get ahold of it. The remaining local bookshop [13:56] Techrights-sec doesn't take special orders any more so I am not sure of a domestec [13:56] Techrights-sec source for the book. Ordering from the UK has some prohibitve costs [13:56] Techrights-sec and bureaucracy attached. ● May 06 [14:02] schestowitz-TR you can see the Gemini Planet now [14:02] schestowitz-TR I am still working on the script [14:02] schestowitz-TR I will try to de-duplicate qith uniq or similar [14:02] schestowitz-TR I have decided to attempt clustering, not de-duplication [14:02] schestowitz-TR I think I need imperative programming or OOP for this, with bash scripting it can be hard [14:02] schestowitz-TR the problem is like this: [14:02] Techrights-sec ack [14:02] Techrights-sec looking [14:02] schestowitz-TR file1 file2 file3 [14:02] schestowitz-TR each has [14:02] schestowitz-TR # Date [14:02] schestowitz-TR under each date a list: [14:02] schestowitz-TR => x [14:02] schestowitz-TR => y [14:02] schestowitz-TR => [14:03] schestowitz-TR we want a new file, file x, that combined for each date all the items below it [14:03] schestowitz-TR (a sort of planet of planets) [14:03] schestowitz-TR one option is, create a file for reach data [14:03] schestowitz-TR and then spill onto it [14:03] schestowitz-TR then uniq -u [14:03] schestowitz-TR then display x latest days [14:03] schestowitz-TR I think I might do it like that [14:04] Techrights-sec ok [14:04] Techrights-sec I was just thinking but don't quite understand the goal so I won't intefere [14:08] schestowitz-TR I think I can handle it, unless "looking" is no longer applicable? [14:08] schestowitz-TR one upside is, we are left with a dated archive of a lot of geminispace [14:08] schestowitz-TR one file per date [14:08] schestowitz-TR that file can, later on, [14:08] schestowitz-TR *FILES [14:08] schestowitz-TR be presented in one page that is an index [14:08] schestowitz-TR so planet gemini becames like [14:08] Techrights-sec maybe 'offsite' in the path name? [14:08] schestowitz-TR Gemini Archive [14:08] schestowitz-TR come to think of it... let's start with an archive [14:08] schestowitz-TR then, presenting days {present} to {x days ago} [14:08] schestowitz-TR is super-simple [14:08] schestowitz-TR and we get 2 in 1 [14:08] schestowitz-TR what directory to use to not confuse people (assuming wrongly it's techrights archive)? [14:08] schestowitz-TR gemini:techrights.org/Geminispace-Archive ? [14:08] schestowitz-TR like Wayback machine except without local copies but just links? [14:08] schestowitz-TR ok, offsite [14:11] Techrights-sec or 'outerspace' ? [14:12] schestowitz-TR some of these are Techrights (we are in some planets) and some are gopher [14:13] Techrights-sec or 'planets' ? [14:15] schestowitz-TR to keep it simple it'll only update the file and grow the file for the current day or past 3 days [14:15] schestowitz-TR then leave alone older ones [14:15] schestowitz-TR maybe /planet/archive/ ? [14:15] Techrights-sec or 'othercapsules' ? [14:15] schestowitz-TR yes, I will do that [14:23] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:49] Techrights-sec sed can kind of do that so can AWK [14:49] Techrights-sec sed -n -e '/spat/,/e[pat/p' [14:49] Techrights-sec sed -n -e '/spat/,/epat/p' [14:49] Techrights-sec awk '/spat/,/epat/' [14:49] Techrights-sec a blank line is /^$/ [14:50] schestowitz-TR can you think of trick to step grep -A NUM until some pattern in a line is found, e.g. a blank line? [14:50] schestowitz-TR I'm close to doing all this with a one-liner of bash [14:50] schestowitz-TR need to "delimit" the output before the prior date starts [14:50] schestowitz-TR I think I know a trick [14:50] schestowitz-TR do the same for prior day, then subtract the output [14:50] schestowitz-TR thanks, getting very close now ● May 06 [15:18] Techrights-sec ack [15:19] schestowitz-TR done [15:19] schestowitz-TR testing now [15:19] schestowitz-TR it is generating and regenrating today's and yesterday's [15:19] schestowitz-TR as some items can "arrive" a day late [15:19] schestowitz-TR I will make an index page for the archive [15:32] Techrights-sec ack [15:34] Techrights-sec Chris Trottier pointed out on mastodon that [15:34] Techrights-sec 1. Microsoft paid SCO $14 million in Unix Licenses [15:34] Techrights-sec 2. SCO debtors had to pay IBM $14,250,000 [15:39] schestowitz-TR Who is this guy and what are the connections other than the similarity in sums so many years apart? [15:39] schestowitz-TR could be someone saw similar numbers and connected the numbers, like people connecting triange, saucers, [15:39] schestowitz-TR and other random symbols [15:39] schestowitz-TR or some creases on the trousers of Lady Obama [15:40] Techrights-sec no clue [15:40] Techrights-sec there's no corresponding blog post or article [15:40] Techrights-sec could be [15:40] Techrights-sec but the creases have a shape [15:42] schestowitz-TR yes, but then that becomes an Obama strawman about First Lady literally donning a penis [15:42] schestowitz-TR and distracts from all sorts of real Obama issues [15:42] schestowitz-TR in the case of SCO, the payments from Microsoft are not news [15:42] schestowitz-TR Bruce Pernes wrote about it in Linux.com [15:42] schestowitz-TR before the site became a shit dump [15:43] Techrights-sec https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/30/sco_tsg_vs_ibm_settlement/ [15:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | SCO v. IBM settlement deal is done, but zombie case shuffles on elsewhere The Register [15:48] Techrights-sec https://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.html [15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.heise.de | SCO vs. Linux: IBM soll 14,25 Millionen US-Dollar zahlen | heise online ● May 06 [16:02] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] Techrights-sec not finding anything recent on SCO [16:04] schestowitz-TR it's like novell, just some history lesson [16:04] schestowitz-TR (of course some try to change history and present distortion versions of it) [16:04] schestowitz-TR like OSI deleting the halloween documents from tis site and taking microsoft bribes [16:08] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@7bj8pchb5fk5e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:11] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:13] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@r6euiqubu4z6w.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:17] Techrights-sec not finding anything recent on SCO [16:17] Techrights-sec yes in the quiet interval, the revisionists can push their agenda more easily [16:17] Techrights-sec ack [16:17] Techrights-sec " my fellow boardmembers at the Open Source Initiative made me move this off the OSI site" [16:17] Techrights-sec http://www.catb.org/~esr/not-the-osi/halloween-rant.html [16:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.catb.org | The Halloween Documents: An Appreciation [16:21] schestowitz-TR boardmembers - whose? [16:21] schestowitz-TR that's why I don't like such orgs [16:21] schestowitz-TR later they also banned him [16:21] schestowitz-TR pay money, become boardmember/s, oust the org from the guy inside out [16:21] schestowitz-TR like in eff [16:21] schestowitz-TR except in eff one died on his own [16:21] schestowitz-TR and his friend didn't enjoy protection anymore [16:21] schestowitz-TR at the end the money calls the shots [16:21] schestowitz-TR btw, rianne left bargain-hunting 10 mins ago [16:21] schestowitz-TR before she left she told me almost 20k workers in groceries will now be redundant [16:21] schestowitz-TR as mccools, where we find the most discounted goods, is going bust :( [16:21] schestowitz-TR that can impact our food bill [16:21] Techrights-sec pay to play [16:21] Techrights-sec they set up the organization for such a take over, either naively or [16:21] Techrights-sec intentionally [16:21] Techrights-sec "redundant" == fired for increased short term profit, long term loss [16:23] schestowitz-TR no, the whole company goes into "administration" [16:23] schestowitz-TR britishism for going under [16:23] schestowitz-TR there is no rescue plan [16:23] schestowitz-TR we can expect all the stores to shut down [16:23] schestowitz-TR with some of our friends who sell us food [16:23] schestowitz-TR this is a big blow, the other stores are further away and don't stock same discount levels [16:23] schestowitz-TR in mccolls we got used to finding milk or bread for just 10p given the right times [16:23] schestowitz-TR paying full price for food when prices soar is a bad thing [16:24] Techrights-sec well that sucks then [16:24] Techrights-sec the gradual creation of food deserts in the city [16:25] schestowitz-TR this changes many calculations [16:25] schestowitz-TR inc. quitting the company [16:25] schestowitz-TR if we no longer go to the gym and if we cannot find good discounts in many stores in town, we can [16:25] schestowitz-TR move further away from the city [16:26] schestowitz-TR at the moment home prices are a bubble [16:26] schestowitz-TR bad time to buy one [16:35] schestowitz-TR quick thoughts [16:35] schestowitz-TR I have 3 tests left to do here [16:35] schestowitz-TR re fb, cnetralised comms was always easier, now it's innovation to move back to it? [16:35] schestowitz-TR news/media very slow today, rianne barely found anything [16:35] schestowitz-TR re tests, i added a new page called latest [16:35] schestowitz-TR it's a combined page for all capsules for today and yesterday [16:35] schestowitz-TR as expected, as a whole it takes longer than initially expected, mostly because I add more things that I [16:35] schestowitz-TR had intended at first [16:35] schestowitz-TR gemini will soon be about 10% of our Daily Links [16:35] Techrights-sec every day is a slow news day in recent years [16:36] Techrights-sec amfora and elpa-elpher are both in Debian now!! [16:37] Techrights-sec Devuan 5 (daedalus) [16:37] schestowitz-TR good news. [16:37] schestowitz-TR debian 10, 11, or both? I can do a video where I show 'live' how to add it [16:37] schestowitz-TR and to say it's aded to debian, hence sparkylinux etc. [16:37] schestowitz-TR let me apt search on 10 and 11 [16:38] Techrights-sec elpa-elpher is in Raspberry Pi OS so far [16:38] Techrights-sec ack [16:44] schestowitz-TR I have just chedked. bullseye has elpher and 10 (buster) had none [16:44] schestowitz-TR so maybe it's a devuan thing [16:44] schestowitz-TR or maybe some other explanation [16:52] Techrights-sec ack [16:52] Techrights-sec it's based on Bookworm (debian 12) [16:52] schestowitz-TR deadalus based on deadian, as MinceR might say [16:55] Techrights-sec yes it is a cleaned up version of debian but the question is whether [16:55] Techrights-sec systemd can metastacize faster than dvuan can excise it [16:55] Techrights-sec maybe if more debian derivatives join in ... [16:58] Techrights-sec https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros [16:58] Techrights-sec https://distrowatch.com/search.php?basedon=Devuan#simple [16:58] Techrights-sec that second link does not give accurate results [16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System [16:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. ● May 06 [17:01] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/index.gmi [17:01] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ [17:02] schestowitz if this looks OK to you, I shall push to git. [17:02] schestowitz-TR forgot the most important page: [17:02] schestowitz-TR gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/latest [17:04] schestowitz-TR found and fixed another bug just now, wrong date was shown in a title [17:09] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [17:10] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:10] Techrights-sec ack [17:10] Techrights-sec what's with all the cyrillic? [17:11] schestowitz-TR CAPCOM syndicates at least one russian capsule [17:16] schestowitz-TR UK COVID-19 Deaths 'Backlog' http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/06/uk-deaths-covid-19-in-april/ [17:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Deaths Backlog [17:16] schestowitz-TR OTA (will mention buster/boomwork/bullseye) [17:16] schestowitz-TR *bookworm [17:31] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@z493a4mjs4c9n.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 06 [18:06] schestowitz-TR draft [18:21] Techrights-sec ack [18:21] Techrights-sec the link to distrowatch is, as mentioned above, wrong [18:21] schestowitz-TR what to use instead? [18:22] Techrights-sec the one from devuan above [18:22] schestowitz-TR the link is there in the post as well [18:24] Techrights-sec yes but the distrowatch one should be removed since it is wrong [18:25] schestowitz-TR I will put wikipedia there instead [18:25] Techrights-sec great [18:28] Techrights-sec the "based on" link ought to go to wikipedia; [18:28] Techrights-sec the "impact many" ought to be the https://www.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros [18:28] Techrights-sec link [18:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.devuan.org | Devuan-Based Distributions | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System ● May 06 [20:01] Techrights-sec http://web.archive.org/web/20021215191808/opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.php [20:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Open Source Initiative OSI - Doc1:Halloween Documents [20:32] schestowitz-TR Social control media is bad for you https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/social-media-break-improves-mental-health-new-study/ [20:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bath.ac.uk | Social media break improves mental health new study [20:32] SomeH4x0r is IRC social control media? [20:33] SomeH4x0r I have nothing to do irl [20:33] SomeH4x0r idk if I'm autistic or something, but I think my life is fucked up [20:33] schestowitz-TR being in ukraine at the moment is hard [20:33] SomeH4x0r it is not about Ukraine [20:33] schestowitz-TR IRC predates by 15 years what media dubbed "social" [20:33] SomeH4x0r the war is not relevant for this [20:34] schestowitz-TR you said your parents are abusive towards you [20:34] schestowitz-TR but that's a personal thing [20:35] SomeH4x0r there is no proper way to raise a child, I think [20:35] SomeH4x0r I "live" online. No irl friends, reality being annoyance. [20:36] SomeH4x0r I used to escape the reality in MMO games, though then I realized they are evil, and quit them [20:38] schestowitz-TR they are addictive [20:38] schestowitz-TR and they are controlled by a corporation [20:38] schestowitz-TR governments are too [20:38] schestowitz-TR but not one corporation [20:39] SomeH4x0r yes, so I quit [20:41] schestowitz-TR good, it's not easy [20:41] schestowitz-TR all of these things designed to addict are better avoided to begin with ● May 06 [22:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:37] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● May 06 [23:39] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)