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| schestowitz-TR | for a complete www backup of TM on my machine, gz is 680mb | Oct 06 01:02 |
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| schestowitz-TR | grew about 100mb since a month ago | Oct 06 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so think 1200mb increase per year (compressed) | Oct 06 01:03 |
| starstreak | thats not bad | Oct 06 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/_______dev/status/1577814655304704003#m | Oct 06 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-- (@_______dev): "Microsoft/CIA love them so much, no wonder why https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/microsoft_accused_of_corrupt_business/ http://techrights.org/2014/05/28/microsoft-brazil/"|nitter.it | Oct 06 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC | Fucking Walmart. | Oct 06 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | Their Web site firewall stops me from doing my shopping if it thinks I'm not in the US. | Oct 06 02:09 |
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| starstreak | ^ yay | Oct 06 03:23 |
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| Techrights-sec | TR httpd does not like the new certificate and putting the old one back in | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | place does not restore functionality. | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | It is up and running again now but, not having touched the configurations, | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | it is still a mess behind the scenes. | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | The steps used to make the current certificate are in mk-self-signed.sh | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | However, I am not sure how much closer that gets to solving the problem | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | with the testing site: | Oct 06 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=techrights.org | Oct 06 08:35 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ssllabs.com | SSL Server Test: techrights.org (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) | Oct 06 08:35 | |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, I overslept again, but anyway not many [topics] to cover | Oct 06 08:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so time is sufficient | Oct 06 08:37 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Oct 06 08:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | one thing I noticed is, about 5 years ago half the 'articles' in phoronix became just a mailing list message | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | with light commentary added | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | later he added photos like TM, also for categories | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even inspired by it (it was his biggest source of traffic, accoriding to alexa) | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | but here is the thing: | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | that site too runs out ofn topics | Oct 06 08:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and compensates with clickbait | Oct 06 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | possible topic: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249 | Oct 06 08:46 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - SoylentNews | Oct 06 08:46 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/04/you_cannot_buy_software/ | Oct 06 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | You thought you bought software – all you bought was a lie • The Register | Oct 06 08:46 | |
| schestowitz-TR | clickbait=wasting people's time, possible annoying them | Oct 06 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | *possibly | Oct 06 08:47 |
| Techrights-sec | The Register mentions FOSS by name, specifically | Oct 06 08:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, liam proven is OK | Oct 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we both read his own blog too | Oct 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | with FOSS you at least trul ownsomething in some sense | Oct 06 08:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | can modify, sell etc. at least pass on... | Oct 06 08:48 |
| Techrights-sec | ^topic ? | Oct 06 08:50 |
| mjg59_ | Phoronix has *always* been rephrased mailing list messages | Oct 06 08:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, copying notesyes, copying notes | Oct 06 08:50 |
| mjg59_ | Michael has never actually understood any of the stuff he's writing about | Oct 06 08:50 |
| Techrights-sec | having caused a world full of security problems through bad design and | Oct 06 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec | implementation, m$ is wrongfully posing as a leader in data protection; | Oct 06 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec | problems cannot generally be solved by the same people and methods as | Oct 06 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec | caused them to begin with; | Oct 06 08:55 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 06 08:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll hawk or watch out for any new items in the news that reaffirm this deception | Oct 06 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | there's one almost every day | Oct 06 08:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | i cannot quite recall the last time the FSF published an essay | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did some formal calls for talks and announced times for IRC sessions | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but those are "meta" | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | GNU used to routinely have some new articles from RMS | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | he still writes some, but less than in prior years | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | pointing this out is scattering salt over wounds, hence not a topid | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other day there were some good irc discussions about erosion of rights due to | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | digitisation | Oct 06 09:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I cannot quite recall all the pertinent details anymore, let alone the context | Oct 06 09:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Thus spake the master programmer: “time for you to leave.” gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/05.1 | Oct 06 09:08 |
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| Techrights-sec | Can the details be looked up from the logs? It too would be a good topic. | Oct 06 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | 1) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hundreds-of-microsoft-sql-servers-backdoored-with-new-malware/ | Oct 06 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | 2) https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu | Oct 06 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | 3) profit!! | Oct 06 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | though technically that is running within "drawbridge" and not within Ubuntu | Oct 06 09:20 |
| Techrights-sec | itself | Oct 06 09:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Hundreds of Microsoft SQL servers backdoored with new malware | Oct 06 09:20 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu | Oct 06 09:20 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://threedots.ovh/blog/2021/01/drawbridge-what-sql-server-on-linux-is-built-on/ | Oct 06 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | Best though to focus on the real tools which m$ tries to draw people away from: | Oct 06 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | postgresql, mariadb, sqlite3, etc | Oct 06 09:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic ? | Oct 06 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-threedots.ovh | Drawbridge: what SQL Server on Linux is built on – random blog | Oct 06 09:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, adding to notes | Oct 06 09:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | side topic, re microsoft and others | Oct 06 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | people tend to wrongly assume that if you act nice or appease a bullyy or sociopaths things will improve | Oct 06 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they will leave you alone | Oct 06 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's wrong | Oct 06 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | sociopaths do not think like healthy people | Oct 06 09:30 |
| mjg59_ | You do demonstrate that pretty clearly | Oct 06 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | roy noorda learned this from experience and the same seems tro be applicable to a certain kind of trolls | Oct 06 09:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *ray | Oct 06 09:33 |
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| Techrights-sec | appeasement never works; furthermore they are, as you point out, incorrect | Oct 06 09:52 |
| Techrights-sec | in projecting their values onto a group which is ideologically, diametrically | Oct 06 09:52 |
| Techrights-sec | opposed to those very values. | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think if today and tomorrow (off work) I spend just all the time keeping TM in good form and up to date (speed), | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | that alone would be nice | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I will try to do videos in "chains" again | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a lot more efficient when done this way, the hard part is gathering enough deent topic and brainstorming | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the idea come by reading other sites, they may not be original | Oct 06 09:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can be covered properly by clustering related coverage with some editorial comments (imho) | Oct 06 09:52 |
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| Techrights-sec | http://techrights.org/2016/03/05/psychopath-vs-sociopath/ | Oct 06 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Guest Post: What’s the Difference Between a Psychopath and a Sociopath? | Techrights | Oct 06 10:00 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | you know what sorts of things noorda said about ballmer and gates after they had buried him with fake "kindness" | Oct 06 10:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I'll spare the quote seeking | Oct 06 10:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, canonical and MarkS are maybe not malicious, but their playing along is a malignant cancer that spreads upstream | Oct 06 10:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Sufficiently advance incompetence is indistinguishable from malice :/ | Oct 06 10:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | MarkS is not mean-spirited, I spoke to him before | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | his business was not profitable | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so he has canned the CEO and is experimenting with all sorts of approaches | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | all that GAFAM hoddling, IME, gives THEM benefits, little of benefiot to Ubuntu | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to gnu/linux in general | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's an experiment and it harms the brand, even the viability of the company | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | quite a few key people resigned | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I cannot claim to know the true reasons | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could look up some names and positions, based on memory | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | same thing happed in red hat | Oct 06 10:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 3 CEOs in 3 years | Oct 06 10:05 |
| psydruid | is Canonical doing well financially | Oct 06 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | they claims so now | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | after many eyars of losses | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sellouts are like this | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | you make a little in the SHORT-TERM | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but screwing those whom you counted on | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec: | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | even UK Conservatives have been more StrongAndStable than this | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | the turnover PM-wise | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need not say 'too' much about UK politics atm | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | as there's an application to be assessed | Oct 06 10:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: to put it another way, with far fewer typos ;-) Canonical closed bug #1 in Ubuntu and basically changed the mission | Oct 06 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it already invested a lot of money in farming goodwill | Oct 06 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | like volunteers' time (support in forums, wiki, advocacy) | Oct 06 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it is burning what it invested in | Oct 06 10:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | in hope that the new mission or 'Plan b' will pay off | Oct 06 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mandriva was royally pissed off when MarkS openly moaned there was no money in the desktop market | Oct 06 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | because Mandriva did have a plana | Oct 06 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the plan wasn't ShipIt -- using deep pockets to make it comvenient for people to 'choose' Ubuntu | Oct 06 10:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was not long after that... that MarkS sucked up to Azure in public | Oct 06 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and tried to rebrand as "clown" | Oct 06 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | IMHO, unless there are MASSIVE price hikes (there are; I see it in ByteMark UK) | Oct 06 10:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the whole clown business model will benefit very few | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | even webhosting was never a ver lucrative buisness | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of money and time spent maintainig the servers and helping clients | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | mitigating securityy incidents | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | with hope that one day, over time, there will be profits | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | where I work we provide support | Oct 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the hosts aren't us, not anymore | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we no longer use our premises for the hosting | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a lot of trouble | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, when ISP problems happen | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you have to send staff after midnight to the rack | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the following day that staff is far too tired to function | Oct 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing bills are soaring | Oct 06 10:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course they use "energy crisis" as a pretext, even if energy isn't the highest cost component | Oct 06 10:28 |
| psydruid | "energy crisis" seems to be mostly a European thing | Oct 06 10:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | if russia does not export through east europe, it has a surplus to send to china dn toehrs | Oct 06 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the cynic in me says, china/wuhan did a one-two punch | Oct 06 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then russia comes with the suppercut | Oct 06 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | *upper | Oct 06 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | brexit was promoted by groups that had enjoyed russian media's support | Oct 06 10:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they divide and rule europe | Oct 06 10:31 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 10:32 |
| psydruid | I've read that in some countries, possibly including Russia, using local cloud is becoming mandatory for at least some businesses | Oct 06 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes with the inappropriately premature closure of bug #1, Ubuntu changed | Oct 06 10:33 |
| Techrights-sec | missions about 180 degrees away from the community it is dependent on. | Oct 06 10:33 |
| psydruid | I noticed Ubuntu became buggier in 2019 | Oct 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and debian? | Oct 06 10:34 |
| psydruid | and Debian started working better than before | Oct 06 10:34 |
| psydruid | so I stopped evaluating Ubuntu at that point | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's great news | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I first installed debian ages ago | Oct 06 10:35 |
| psydruid | I'll get rid of all Ubuntu installs for relatives and myself by the end of the year | Oct 06 10:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also had it on a server around 2010 | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2020 both rianne and I used it as daily driver with kde | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | then my sister too | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian 10 is very very solid | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and predictable | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian 11 is not too bad, but "upgrading" from 10 to 11 is not a great idea | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe fresh install.. maybe | Oct 06 10:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister had a ton of issues when upgrading to it | Oct 06 10:37 |
| psydruid | It's not that I didn't try | Oct 06 10:37 |
| psydruid | Ubuntu didn't work correctly on multiple architectures whereas Debian simply didn't have those problems | Oct 06 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like old things only worked in 10 | Oct 06 10:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so i told her, why did you move? pressure from work | Oct 06 10:37 |
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| Techrights-sec | Oct 06 10:38 | |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | the funny thing is, i think vista 10 -> 11 is similar scenario | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but inherently different systems | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | one serves the master (company) | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other claims to prioritise users | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | iceweasel showed how far Debian would go to PREVENT what Canonical did with Amazon | Oct 06 10:39 |
| psydruid | vista 10 is slower than vista 11 in a virtual machine for some reason | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | or Mozilla did with only TM back then | Oct 06 10:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | before Firefox became spyware | Oct 06 10:39 |
| psydruid | but it's just another layer of lipstick on the same pig | Oct 06 10:40 |
| psydruid | not something you can rely on for anything | Oct 06 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft needs to slow down market erosion | Oct 06 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | india (1500 million people) is not buying new PCs | Oct 06 10:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | Sam Varghese showed the figures 2 weeks ago | Oct 06 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | sales plunged | Oct 06 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | so people recycle old ones, I assume | Oct 06 10:41 |
| psydruid | I can understand that | Oct 06 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | with Indian distros | Oct 06 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu/linux climbed to 10% there this month | Oct 06 10:41 |
| psydruid | my machines are all 5-6 years old | Oct 06 10:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | to me, the only explanation is, people check what can be done with the old PCs | Oct 06 10:41 |
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| psydruid | and work just fine with Debian | Oct 06 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | mine are about the same agwe | Oct 06 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2015, 16,17 | Oct 06 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pi is 2020 | Oct 06 10:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | pcworld is offloading lots of machines that cannot run vista 11 | Oct 06 10:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | sold like 50% or less RRP | Oct 06 10:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Debian is a lot less solid with systemd now | Oct 06 10:43 |
| psydruid | even KDE Plasma works better again for me now that I am on Bookworm | Oct 06 10:43 |
| psydruid | but I know what I'm doing and install LTS for others | Oct 06 10:43 |
| psydruid | my newest machine is a used Jetson Nano from 2019 | Oct 06 10:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | nano does debian mostly iirc | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure if by default | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's not so cheap | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably doing graphics well, due to nvidia being involved | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the pi machines are getting harder to get | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and expensive if youdo find them | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | from less official "channels" | Oct 06 10:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm glad rianne bought one, barely, just before the war erupted | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | she got a raspi400 for about 65 pounds inc. adapter and shipping, iirc | Oct 06 10:47 |
| psydruid | I got it for €30 | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | Techrights-sec helped find it online | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | at first they had none in stock | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and she signed up for alerts | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | day later they got shipment arriving and within hours we reserved and bought it | Oct 06 10:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | is gaRUDA ANY GOOD, psydruid? | Oct 06 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | SORRY, CAPS | Oct 06 10:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: TYPING WHILE EATING | Oct 06 10:50 |
| psydruid | businesses appear to be buying lots of pis | Oct 06 10:50 |
| psydruid | I don't know why production isn't higher than it is right now | Oct 06 10:50 |
| psydruid | I don't know, I don't use fancy distros | Oct 06 10:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | I HEARD GOOD THINGS | Oct 06 10:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | ffs, caps lock | Oct 06 10:51 |
| psydruid | I've settled on debian because it generally works, has most of the software I need and takes some of the work out of my hands so I can focus on other things | Oct 06 10:54 |
| psydruid | probably the same argument as Linus for settling on Fedora | Oct 06 10:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | yeah, he is still on fedora | Oct 06 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on last month's report | Oct 06 11:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | re apple story, better if corrupted scotus does not touch anything that can 'overturn' alice | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | side notes: mancity 'thrashed' copenhagen fc 5-0 | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | today we'll have more covid figures at 4pm | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | i used to be able to write more when disclosurees were daily | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | argued with nhs clerical staff yesterdaty about the public safety | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | covidiots get facts from other covidiots | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | they think this thing is over because they bought a product (or 3 doses of it) | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | hence, it's not safe to go shopping for other products and watch football | Oct 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | that causes further mutation | Oct 06 11:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes overturning Alice is a possibility there. I cannot guess at the risk though | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | the furher mutation lessens the incentive to get "old" products which target a phanton enemy | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | which already mutated yesrs ago | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like superbugs in the context of antiviotics | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but virus is different | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell that to people who take horse 'medicine' for a virus | Oct 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Cops kill dogs literally all the time. It happens so often even the DOJ has taken notice." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/court-strips-immunity-from-cop-who-shot-a-dog-within-seconds-of-arriving-on-the-scene-of-a-non-crime/ | Source: Techdirt | Oct 06 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Court Strips Immunity From Cop Who Shot A Dog Within Seconds Of Arriving On The Scene Of A Non-Crime | Techdirt | Oct 06 11:28 | |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Oct 06 11:28 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 06 11:31 |
| Techrights-sec | What is the yellowish line in the charts? | Oct 06 11:32 |
| Techrights-sec | There are rectangles in the charts saying "linux" but which line do they refer | Oct 06 11:32 |
| Techrights-sec | to? The key at the bottom does not have the yellowish color listed. | Oct 06 11:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | right | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll leave that as is in drafts | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and do a video about it along with the rest | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can also mention norway and finland in passing | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they are small populations | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal is to explain why windows is shrinking and where | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it'll take a while to get around to videos | Oct 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm still going through Links | Oct 06 11:34 |
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| schestowitz-TR | "GAFAM"... our coined term is spreading!! gemini://gemini.astropirados.space/gemlog/instagram.gmi | Oct 06 12:33 |
| Techrights-sec | USPTO going rogue: https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174 | Oct 06 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Oct 06 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.lightreading.com/5g/uspto-study-everyones-winner-in-5g-patents/d/d-id/776174 ) | Oct 06 13:16 | |
| Techrights-sec | RPi could have easily avoided all that damage, their selling out a little | Oct 06 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | probably lead to them selling out a lot by including microsofters inside | Oct 06 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | the company and on the board :( | Oct 06 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | Certainly many of their staff have turned out to be rats. | Oct 06 13:16 |
| Techrights-sec | and working against RPi and for M$ while on the clock. | Oct 06 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | we did millions in damages to raspi ltd after calling them out | Oct 06 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | they paid a price for bad deal, likely under nda | Oct 06 13:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | with 2 obligatory blog posts shilling vs and azure | Oct 06 13:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "From the way that the Anglo media are treating the October 2 Brazilian first-round presidential elections, a casual news consumer may get the impression that the Brazilian Workers Party suffered a crushing defeat." ☛ https://fair.org/home/media-spin-lula-victory-as-defeat/ | Source: FAIR | Oct 06 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Media Spin Lula Victory as Defeat - FAIR | Oct 06 14:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | ^ media digging its own grave | Oct 06 14:10 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 14:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | linkedin = scams | Oct 06 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft: not our department, blame foss | Oct 06 14:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | zdent: microsoft victim of foss | Oct 06 14:11 |
| Techrights-sec | The media sure helps them with all that misdirection. | Oct 06 14:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | disinformation as a service | Oct 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | just finished Links | Oct 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | doing RSS now | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | later the videos | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | because i don't want TM to be "bhind" | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | the speed is a key advantage | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne barely finds anything worthy today | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and hasn't been lately, either | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to ghroup things to make them worthy of posting, power in numbers | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this is not limited to FOSS | Oct 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a "desert" issue | Oct 06 14:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne has a good sense or smell for SMFT BS | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | this morning she mentioned that she noticed linuxlinks and itsfoss onclude many pro-Microsoft BS sentences | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that she needs to work around them | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | she doesn't know all the publishers' history and people | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but learns frome xperience over time | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's also why curation cannot be automated | Oct 06 14:39 |
| Techrights-sec | Good call. She's also super-fast in finding material for TM too. Speed | Oct 06 14:39 |
| Techrights-sec | is a huge advantage. | Oct 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | marius having direct access helps | Oct 06 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | two key factor: expoerience with rss readers (fast is hard, also dupe detection/recognition... needs human understanding... helps with clustering.. Gulag | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Noise gets the clustering wrong a LOT) | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | momentum: no audience, no incentive to do the above and fast, i.e. very often | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | chick-and-egg | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | *chicken | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Google is clustering things based on keywords in headlines | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then connected totally unrelated stories | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe Gulag Noise will be next product to be canned... for an inferior "replacement" | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they do with voice calls | Oct 06 14:45 |
| psydruid | RPi siding with MSFT didn't bring them much other than influencing the next generation of free software developers into becoming dependent on closed source MSFT tools | Oct 06 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | to sjvn, the current editorial workflow lessens the incentive to break neews | Oct 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "breaking news" can come out 3 days late. LOL | Oct 06 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | RPi's siding with MSFT was not about benefit to RPi, but to MSFT at the expense | Oct 06 14:58 |
| Techrights-sec | of the RPi community and ecosystem | Oct 06 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | in deals with Microsoft only one side benefits | Oct 06 14:58 |
| Techrights-sec | Duplicate detection based on URL is "easy" but based on topic or, worse, theme | Oct 06 15:00 |
| Techrights-sec | is very hard. | Oct 06 15:00 |
| Techrights-sec | No company has ever survived a partnership with M$; RPi won't, that's for sure | Oct 06 15:00 |
| Techrights-sec | just looking at the way things have been heading since they flubbed that | Oct 06 15:00 |
| Techrights-sec | decision. | Oct 06 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | they won't be first to survive this | Oct 06 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it seems like for 20 months almost no more Microsoft sellout, at least not in the open | Oct 06 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i know about the ads and the board | Oct 06 15:00 |
| psydruid | there are few who have even tried to run Vista on RPi hardware | Oct 06 15:09 |
| psydruid | and if more people did, that would make AMD and Intel and their OEMs unhappy | Oct 06 15:09 |
| psydruid | so there isn't much to win for MSFT either | Oct 06 15:09 |
| psydruid | except for retaining the status quo | Oct 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal is to sabotage pi | Oct 06 15:10 |
| psydruid | which is going away too | Oct 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they did olpc/xo | Oct 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | or turn those users into azure/vs drones | Oct 06 15:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Aside from financialization, M$ makes its money off of monopoly rents so | Oct 06 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | maintaining the monopoly is the only way to stay afloat. As we see from | Oct 06 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | their failed profits which are smaller than the government bailouts, that | Oct 06 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | is no longer working. Below ~ 85% market share in their OEM monopoly or | Oct 06 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | in their productivity software file format monopoly they cannot charge rents. | Oct 06 15:18 |
| Techrights-sec | Poof. Their goes their income source. | Oct 06 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft 2021: we are worth 2000 billion dollars | Oct 06 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft 2020: we are firing 20,000 workers | Oct 06 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft 2022^ | Oct 06 15:20 |
| Techrights-sec | The Azure layoffs are the most interesting because the are going to such | Oct 06 15:32 |
| Techrights-sec | great efforts to pretend that the division is going ok when it's clearly losing | Oct 06 15:32 |
| Techrights-sec | money. | Oct 06 15:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Oct 06 15:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | clown is like "metaverse" | Oct 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's bluff to keep shareholders around | Oct 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter and FB have lots of fluff going on | Oct 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know youtube cannot make money based on the latest self-harming moves | Oct 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | people don't harm themselves just for fun | Oct 06 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Bill has two business skills and shoehorns every strategy into them: | Oct 06 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec | 1) extend an existing monopoly, 2) bluff like crazy | Oct 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ryan says 'billburgers' are failing badly | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | in this kind of economy no wonders | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the price collapsed | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody buys them | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne get slots of these products on the pennies | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | who would buy this overpriced shit at this time? | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | even meat and milk (and anything absed on them) got a lot more expensive | Oct 06 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | The US and perhaps several other markets appear to have been in a recession | Oct 06 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | for a few decades with occasional dips into actual depression, at least | Oct 06 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec | according to the old-style definitions. | Oct 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | today in TR IRC we spoke about real unemploymenr rate | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | dc went off topic, as usual | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | i hope the price of popcorn (cord) does not change | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | for some of us not having kids is enough for reprieve | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is apparentyly also a bewingf mental health crisis | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | impacting kids in particular | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I know a few) | Oct 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | new covid numbers in 8 mins | Oct 06 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think i finished meeting people for the year | Oct 06 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | one meeting tomorrow, then that's it | Oct 06 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | estimates are 2 million infested atm | Oct 06 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rising fast | Oct 06 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Social control media on its own is a health crisis. However, it is greatly | Oct 06 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | amplified by the distancing / lockdown which feed even more misues of it. | Oct 06 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Then there are all the cuts to activities and similar budgets hidden by | Oct 06 15:52 |
| Techrights-sec | the pandemic. | Oct 06 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NHS late to release this week's figures, which should be posted daily, not weekly https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache "Last updated on Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 4:00pm" | Oct 06 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache ) | Oct 06 16:01 | |
| schestowitz-TR | results minutes late: "did you try retsarting the program?" | Oct 06 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | results hours late: "did you try restarting the computer?" | Oct 06 16:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | results days late: "did you try reinstalling the OS or buy a new PC?" | Oct 06 16:03 |
| Techrights-sec | restarting the program / system as a "solution" comes from Windows ability | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | to crash for no reason after minutes or seconds of uptime. It would also freeze | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | a lot too necessitating use of the debugging sequence ctrl-alt-del : | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expeIt was like a five-minute job in doing it. I didnt realize I was going to create a | Oct 06 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expeIt ) | Oct 06 16:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | cultural icon when I did it, he said. But I have to share the credit. I may have invented it, but I think Bill made it famous. | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | """ | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.geekwire.com/2013/rest-story-controlaltdelete-inventor-expect-command-widely/ | Oct 06 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The rest of the story: Control-Alt-Delete inventor didn't expect it to be widely used – GeekWire | Oct 06 16:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | It still crashes often, but maybe not quite as often, and reboots so that | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | useds forget quickly about it and try to pick up with their tasks where | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | they left off. A real dollar value on the increased productivity a nation | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | would benefit from could be calculated for migrating to GNU/Linux, *BSD, | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | or even MacOS. Most current spam would disappear as would > 99% of the world's | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | malware, and more or less 100% of the world's ransomware. | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Rebooting the system is superstition not repair. | Oct 06 16:22 |
| Techrights-sec | But the masses have been trained to accept it. | Oct 06 16:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | also after installing a program | Oct 06 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | from what I have read the opec policy was an agreement between ksa and russia | Oct 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you know putrler pulls strings still | Oct 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | he had it easy during trump | Oct 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | many institutions have failed to remove the tainted parts | Oct 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | inc. scotus | Oct 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol! nhs: only minutes ago: the data will be ready an hour later. must be a reboot then ;-) | Oct 06 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they even lost some data because excel crashes :-) | Oct 06 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/late-nhs/ | Oct 06 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! | Oct 06 16:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | 5pm. still npo data. | Oct 06 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | *no | Oct 06 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | campbell now self-censors far too much to be informative | Oct 06 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think that on that bnasis alone I will can him | Oct 06 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | he cannot speak his mind out | Oct 06 17:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-hospitalisations-october/ | Oct 06 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year | Oct 06 17:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | headsup: i try to get a little more involved in techpol irc | Oct 06 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much but a little | Oct 06 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | it gets shown in -social at the bottom | Oct 06 17:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTAx3 (I think, 2 at least) | Oct 06 17:43 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Oct 06 17:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe responses from the main channel but which are off topic can be responded | Oct 06 17:43 |
| Techrights-sec | to there also. | Oct 06 17:43 |
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| schestowitz-TR | done | Oct 06 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, that's a good solution | Oct 06 18:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | working on the next 2 as well, in tandem | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | drafy - sql server | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | last draft left now re market share | Oct 06 19:56 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 06 19:56 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Oct 06 19:56 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Oct 06 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | after this rianne and I will "clean the feeds" | Oct 06 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | the lines need to be labeled, what is the beige / yellowish line? | Oct 06 20:01 |
| Techrights-sec | it is not in the key | Oct 06 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-september-october-hospital/ | Oct 06 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) | Oct 06 20:47 | |
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